The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2185 - Bob Gymlan

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00:00:14.000 Salute, Bob.

00:00:15.000 Salute.

00:00:16.000 Pleasure to meet you, man.

00:00:20.000 Pleasure to meet you, too.

00:00:21.000 How'd you start doing this YouTube channel?

00:00:24.000 Um...

00:00:24.000 I've always, uh...

00:00:28.000 Enjoyed doing...

00:00:30.000 Talking about those things, because who doesn't?

00:00:32.000 Right.

00:00:33.000 And I was always kind of surprised at how shitty they're usually talked about. 0.88

00:00:39.000 I just saw the shooting star. 0.71

00:00:41.000 There it goes, yeah.

00:00:42.000 It'll trick you.

00:00:43.000 Like, so often you see this type of content as like, is there a monster in the woods?

00:00:48.000 Right.

00:00:49.000 And it's like, that's not the question.

00:00:50.000 The question is more complex than that, and I often don't see it brought up that way.

00:00:57.000 There's something about these, like, today I listened to the Creepiest Bigfoot story one, that one you had with the one where the guy wrote in a story about the Bigfoot.

00:01:07.000 Burying stuff in the backyard?

00:01:09.000 Yeah, that one.

00:01:10.000 And there's something about those that, like, even if you don't believe in Bigfoot, because I don't necessarily believe in Bigfoot, There's something about it that's so compelling.

00:01:21.000 There's something about things that you don't know out there in the woods because you don't have an accurate, a real good account of everything that's in the forest.

00:01:32.000 Of course.

00:01:33.000 You look out there, it's dark.

00:01:35.000 And the mind is always looking for some weirdness.

00:01:38.000 The mind is always looking for something that other people don't know about, or perhaps there's like a secret that the sheriffs know about, that they don't share with everybody else.

00:01:46.000 Like, why is that so, why does that resonate so much with people?

00:01:50.000 With Stephen King movies, like, or Stephen King books?

00:01:53.000 It's like that kind of a thing.

00:01:54.000 There's something about it that's like exciting.

00:01:56.000 Right.

00:01:58.000 I'm more of a Dean Koons fan than Stephen King.

00:02:01.000 Oh, okay.

00:02:01.000 Yeah, he's great too.

00:02:03.000 Yeah.

00:02:04.000 You don't like Stephen King?

00:02:05.000 You're trying to throw shade?

00:02:07.000 His politics ruined it for me.

00:02:09.000 That's the problem, right?

00:02:10.000 That's the problem.

00:02:10.000 His problem is his Twitter feed.

00:02:12.000 His Twitter feed's fucking brutal. 1.00

00:02:14.000 It's like, dude, stop! 1.00

00:02:16.000 Right, that's nuts. 0.92

00:02:17.000 These are like the goofiest low testosterone boomer takes I've ever heard on anything. 0.96

00:02:22.000 Like, stop. 0.65

00:02:23.000 It's very true.

00:02:24.000 But he's such a brilliant writer.

00:02:26.000 I also think...

00:02:28.000 He's a different guy.

00:02:30.000 Because the car accident, I think that was a big one.

00:02:33.000 You know, when you get hit by a van?

00:02:35.000 That'll do it. 1.00

00:02:36.000 Yeah, shit. 1.00

00:02:37.000 He was really, really fucked up from that. 1.00

00:02:39.000 And I also think it's getting off coke. 0.99

00:02:41.000 Getting off coke and booze?

00:02:43.000 Yeah.

00:02:43.000 That was the real Stephen King.

00:02:45.000 I mean, I hate to advocate alcoholism and cocaine use.

00:02:49.000 Because I don't think either one of them is good for you. 0.98

00:02:52.000 But goddamn, they're good for writing books. 0.95

00:02:53.000 They're good for artistry, that's for sure. 0.99

00:02:55.000 There's something about his early stuff when he was off the rails.

00:02:58.000 He said he doesn't even remember writing Cujo.

00:03:01.000 Doesn't even remember it.

00:03:02.000 It's my favorite book of his. 0.99

00:03:03.000 It's fucking great. 1.00

00:03:04.000 It's a fucking great book. 0.99

00:03:06.000 So is The Shining. 0.99

00:03:08.000 It's another one where he was deep in the throes of addiction and just writing this fucking captivating book.

00:03:17.000 What he captured is there's this part of our mind that maybe we don't talk about too much.

00:03:23.000 Where we always wonder if everybody really knows what's going on and maybe something could happen that people didn't expect Couldn't imagine is real and yet you're confronted by it, you know, and that's like a lot of his stories and You do a really good job of finding that.

00:03:43.000 Also, you have a creepy voice.

00:03:45.000 No disrespect.

00:03:46.000 I mean in a good way.

00:03:48.000 Like the way you tell the stories.

00:03:50.000 It's just something about it.

00:03:52.000 It's like you're doing radio, man.

00:03:54.000 You're doing radio with illustrations, but you're doing it on YouTube.

00:03:58.000 Right.

00:03:58.000 Well, that's actually why I chose the name Bob Gimlin.

00:04:02.000 Because Bob Gimlin is obviously the guy who was there when the Patterson footage was shot.

00:04:07.000 Right.

00:04:08.000 And it has...

00:04:08.000 So, my Google account or my YouTube account name way before I started the channel was Bob Gimlin.

00:04:15.000 Oh.

00:04:15.000 And my real name is Brian Gagne.

00:04:18.000 And all I used YouTube for was Bigfoot content and, like, watching Bob Dylan rips.

00:04:25.000 I'm a huge fan of Bob Dylan.

00:04:26.000 Oh, cool.

00:04:26.000 So, I thought Bob Gimlin was a cool name.

00:04:28.000 And it kind of evokes back to, like, just...

00:04:32.000 Kind of Rod Serling.

00:04:33.000 A little bit.

00:04:34.000 Just like a slower pace.

00:04:36.000 Because so much of the content now was just like, top 10 creepiest sightings.

00:04:40.000 Yeah.

00:04:40.000 It's like, whatever.

00:04:41.000 It's like, I like to be a little more immersed.

00:04:44.000 Yes.

00:04:45.000 You do it like radio.

00:04:47.000 You do it like old school radio, like creepy radio.

00:04:50.000 Yeah.

00:04:50.000 Like when they used to tell stories on like, you know, people would sit, you know, before there was a television, people would sit around the radio.

00:04:58.000 And they would listen.

00:04:59.000 Like, that's where War of the Worlds, that famous thing with H.G. Wells where he had a bunch of people believing that we're actually being invaded by Martians.

00:05:06.000 And you flee your state.

00:05:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:09.000 So when did you start this channel?

00:05:12.000 I think like nine years ago.

00:05:15.000 2016 maybe.

00:05:16.000 And was it the beginning?

00:05:17.000 Was it Bigfoot?

00:05:18.000 Have you ever had an encounter?

00:05:20.000 Or is it just something that's been fascinating to you?

00:05:22.000 It's just always been interesting.

00:05:24.000 So I think my talent, and I'm not even saying I'm talented, but what I have going for me is I am so ready to believe that everything we know is BS. People don't know anything.

00:05:39.000 They just don't.

00:05:39.000 I mean, people know stuff, but so much of what has been in history books is already wrong.

00:05:45.000 Have you ever seen a chimpanzee?

00:05:48.000 Yes.

00:05:48.000 Would it surprise you to learn that there's a smarter one, there's a faster one, there's a bigger one?

00:05:53.000 If a Bigfoot got hit by a bus tomorrow, I wouldn't be surprised.

00:05:58.000 You wouldn't be?

00:06:00.000 I would be terribly surprised.

00:06:03.000 Really?

00:06:03.000 Yes.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, I don't know if they're real, but I think they might be real.

00:06:09.000 This is what I think.

00:06:10.000 I have a very strange take on this. 0.95

00:06:12.000 I know it's gonna sound super stupid to anybody who's like cynical, pragmatist, but just bear with me for a moment. 0.81

00:06:19.000 I think the boundaries between this dimension and other ones are permeable. 0.88

00:06:29.000 And I have a feeling things can cross through them.

00:06:33.000 And I have a feeling we are like, if an ant is, like I have leaf cutter ants in my yard, pretty wild.

00:06:41.000 So cool to watch them.

00:06:42.000 It sucks because they kill all your trees, but so cool to watch this long train of these incredible little beings carrying around these giant pieces of leaf that they cut off. 0.98

00:06:55.000 And they're all going into their little house, but you wave your hand over them, they have no fucking idea you're there. 0.96

00:07:01.000 Whatever senses they have, it does not seem to detect threats from things above. 0.95

00:07:07.000 They don't seem to be worried.

00:07:08.000 They don't perceive us.

00:07:12.000 Well, they're mission-oriented.

00:07:13.000 And we are, too.

00:07:14.000 So if something is happening that's beyond our mission, I think it's hard to perceive it.

00:07:17.000 I think there's things that exist that are not perceivable.

00:07:23.000 I'm one million percent in that camp too.

00:07:25.000 And I think there's heightened states of consciousness that people achieve under duress, extreme stress, fear.

00:07:33.000 I think that's one of the reasons why a lot of them happen at nighttime.

00:07:35.000 I think nighttime It automatically fills people with a certain sense of anxiety and fear because you don't know what's out there, especially in the woods at nighttime.

00:07:47.000 And I think in those times when your mind reaches this unusual chemical state, you occasionally can access these other realities.

00:07:57.000 And I think that's where Bigfoot is real.

00:08:00.000 I know it sounds goofy.

00:08:02.000 No, I mean, that's...

00:08:03.000 And I don't think you can go find it.

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00:09:21.000 Check it out. 0.99

00:09:21.000 That's why Finding Bigfoot is on like season 80 and they haven't found shit. 0.99

00:09:24.000 Yeah, well. 0.96

00:09:26.000 But see, even if it was real, I wouldn't expect them to find it either.

00:09:30.000 No, that show's just goofy.

00:09:31.000 Or even if it was flesh and blood.

00:09:32.000 It's funny you would say what you said because when I first started my channel, I was very flesh and blood type.

00:09:39.000 I thought it was a very real thing, like just a bear or anything else in the woods.

00:09:44.000 But a lot of commenters said, though I appreciate Bob's take on that, he will get to the woo-woo side or the spiritual side.

00:09:52.000 And I was like, I am not.

00:09:53.000 And I'm like halfway there already.

00:09:55.000 But I don't think that the spiritualism can be separated from anything.

00:10:01.000 What do you mean by that?

00:10:03.000 I mean...

00:10:05.000 I think we're spiritual beings, and I think that we're interacting with, kind of like the Force from Star Wars.

00:10:13.000 I believe reality is permeable to an extent.

00:10:20.000 The things that we see with our eyes and feel that we touch, there's more than that.

00:10:26.000 It's a fraction.

00:10:27.000 It's a fraction of what's going on.

00:10:29.000 I think so, too.

00:10:32.000 I think that's probably the source of whatever psychic... 0.99

00:10:39.000 Phenomenon that is real, that's not bullshit, and just a bunch of people, a bunch of hucksters robbing people.

00:10:45.000 I think there's some sort of telepathic connection that people share occasionally.

00:10:51.000 And I think it's an emerging aspect of human consciousness that will probably one day be as normal as hearing.

00:10:58.000 I think we're just emerging from the primal.

00:11:02.000 And I think also in the primal they probably have it.

00:11:06.000 They probably have it in a different way.

00:11:08.000 Like animals are tuned in in a very bizarre way.

00:11:12.000 They just know things sometimes.

00:11:14.000 And you don't know why they know things.

00:11:16.000 You're not even saying...

00:11:17.000 Like, my dog sometimes knows when we're going to go for a run.

00:11:20.000 Right.

00:11:20.000 He just knows it.

00:11:21.000 I've always been fascinated by how...

00:11:25.000 So many animals seem to innately know that we can help them.

00:11:29.000 Yes.

00:11:29.000 And they shouldn't think that.

00:11:32.000 Right.

00:11:32.000 Historically, we are not the helper of animals.

00:11:34.000 Right.

00:11:35.000 And like, you know, be it dolphins or seals or whatever.

00:11:37.000 Or deer even.

00:11:38.000 Yeah, they're just like, I'm hurt, help.

00:11:39.000 And it's like, shouldn't they be afraid of the predator?

00:11:41.000 Deer have tried to contact people to get one of their friends free from barbed wire.

00:11:46.000 Yeah.

00:11:46.000 Yeah, there's something weird.

00:11:48.000 There's something weird going on that is not just as simple as we're the dominant species, we have language, we figured out consciousness, we write books.

00:11:58.000 No, I think there's another thing that we just don't, it's not there yet.

00:12:05.000 You know, it's just like the original caveman had some grunts and those grunts became words and now those words become huge Libraries filled with books that people have written.

00:12:16.000 And I think that's what's going on with human consciousness. 0.53

00:12:19.000 And I think there's just got to be some reason why this Bigfoot thing has been going on for so goddamn long.

00:12:27.000 I think it's an interdimensional existence.

00:12:30.000 I think whatever that thing is, I think it comes back and forth.

00:12:33.000 And that's why I don't find anything.

00:12:35.000 Yeah.

00:12:36.000 I mean, that's...

00:12:36.000 As I said, I'm getting there.

00:12:39.000 You're getting there.

00:12:40.000 Getting there.

00:12:41.000 Yeah.

00:12:41.000 I mean, because, as I said earlier, like...

00:12:44.000 To me, the flesh and blood ape hypothesis is not as impractical as everyone says.

00:12:49.000 Well, it used to be a real thing for sure.

00:12:51.000 The problem is the size of it.

00:12:53.000 You know, you can't really hide a 10-foot gorilla.

00:12:56.000 Why?

00:12:57.000 Why?

00:12:57.000 Because there's too many trail cams, too many campers, hikers, hunters especially.

00:13:03.000 Especially...

00:13:04.000 Well, it's not like people don't see it.

00:13:05.000 People see it all the time.

00:13:06.000 Yeah, hunters don't see them.

00:13:07.000 No.

00:13:08.000 No, but my friends...

00:13:09.000 I have a lot of friends that are like long-range backpack hunters.

00:13:13.000 These guys would go 26, 27 miles into the forest with no access roads.

00:13:17.000 They just hike out.

00:13:18.000 But do hunters not see them or do hunters not say they saw it?

00:13:22.000 No, I don't know anybody who's seen them. 0.99

00:13:25.000 They'll tell you all kinds of other wild shit. 0.99

00:13:27.000 But they would tell you if they saw it. 0.99

00:13:29.000 None of them are...

00:13:31.000 None of them believe that I know.

00:13:33.000 But they are wary about animals.

00:13:37.000 There's real threats out there.

00:13:39.000 There's grizzlies.

00:13:40.000 There's wolves.

00:13:41.000 There's mountain lions.

00:13:42.000 Those are the things they're really worried about and those are the things that they see.

00:13:46.000 And I've had friends that have had encounters with them and even those encounters seem in some sort of weird way spiritual.

00:13:52.000 There's a weird connection with these predators and prey, I think, opens up a part of us that we don't ever experience.

00:14:01.000 You don't ever experience a thing that wants to eat you.

00:14:05.000 And when you do, I think your biology is like, oh, you remember this?

00:14:09.000 And like a switch gets turned on and these genes that we've had inside of our body for hundreds of thousands of years of us running away from predators, They get ignited, and there's this bizarre connection.

00:14:21.000 Have you ever looked in the eyes of a predator?

00:14:23.000 I sure have.

00:14:25.000 What have you seen?

00:14:27.000 I worked at a zoo, Brookfield Zoo in Chicago, for quite a few years.

00:14:34.000 This Christmas, we went there.

00:14:38.000 And the lion was roaring, going nuts.

00:14:43.000 And I have footage of this I can actually show you later.

00:14:45.000 But it was very close, and it was roaring, and it looked like it was going to pounce.

00:14:49.000 And I had no faith that that little barrier was enough.

00:14:51.000 And I've literally worked at the place, and I know, like, there are fail-safes and stuff that they can't get out.

00:14:56.000 But I was just like, nope, this is nuts.

00:14:58.000 Because, you know, I love cats, big cats, too.

00:15:01.000 And...

00:15:02.000 Do you have a cat?

00:15:04.000 I don't anymore, but I've had cats.

00:15:05.000 Just watching them and now imagining that they are bigger than you is so horrifying.

00:15:12.000 I saw my first large mountain lion two years ago.

00:15:15.000 It was big, like about 170 plus pounds.

00:15:19.000 And my friend Colton saw it under a tree.

00:15:21.000 We were driving, luckily.

00:15:23.000 We were inside the truck because it was only about 30 yards away.

00:15:25.000 I would have shit my pants if I saw this thing without a barrier between us.

00:15:30.000 It was so big. 0.96

00:15:32.000 It was so big and so terrible.

00:15:34.000 It looked like a demon.

00:15:35.000 Like when you lock eyes with that thing, and again, I'm looking at it through a windshield and also binoculars.

00:15:41.000 So I had 10 power binoculars and I'm zoomed into its face and I'm seeing it like just looking right at me with this pumpkin head, the big mandible muscles that go over the top of the skull.

00:15:54.000 It's like, oh Christ.

00:15:56.000 And again, I'm looking at it through a windshield and binoculars.

00:15:58.000 So I'm removed slightly from the actual force of the experience of its eyeballs on me.

00:16:04.000 But if I was standing there just looking at it, I probably would have had a psychedelic experience.

00:16:09.000 I probably would have tripped out.

00:16:10.000 I probably would have gone into shock.

00:16:13.000 I saw a grizzly bear once in Alberta.

00:16:17.000 I saw one of those.

00:16:18.000 And not even a big one.

00:16:19.000 About a six foot grizzly bear.

00:16:20.000 But it looks at you.

00:16:22.000 I've seen black bears before.

00:16:23.000 That was the first grizzly I saw in the wild.

00:16:26.000 And they look right through you.

00:16:28.000 To me, I've only seen footage of grizzly bears, but every once in a while they have this crackhead look.

00:16:34.000 Where it's like they're doing that thing where they're looking to see what you got.

00:16:38.000 They're just like, what can I take from this?

00:16:40.000 And you can't do anything to stop them unless you have a gun.

00:16:42.000 Yeah, we had guns, luckily.

00:16:45.000 We had shotguns.

00:16:46.000 But when we were looking at it, it looked like it's gonna eat you.

00:16:51.000 It looks like, am I gonna eat you? 0.96

00:16:56.000 Couldn't care less if you live or die. 0.64

00:16:59.000 Just all it's doing all day long is searching for something slow.

00:17:04.000 Something with a limp, something that fucks up, something that leaves behind a kid, something that, you know, a dog's chained up to a tree.

00:17:11.000 Whoops, got one. 0.54

00:17:12.000 Right.

00:17:13.000 And that's all it's doing all day long, and it's just a big monster.

00:17:16.000 And if it didn't exist, if a grizzly bear didn't exist, and there was reports of this enormous dog-like creature that eats everything and can kill a moose and lives in the woods, it would be way scarier than Bigfoot.

00:17:30.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:17:31.000 Well, maybe.

00:17:32.000 Maybe not.

00:17:33.000 Kodiak?

00:17:34.000 Yeah, but...

00:17:34.000 Kodiak better be scarier than Bigfoot.

00:17:39.000 Worse things can happen than be eaten.

00:17:41.000 Oh, like the Come For Me Bigfoot books?

00:17:43.000 No.

00:17:45.000 Well, I... Yeah, obviously I've heard of them.

00:17:49.000 There's a whole genre of erotica written about Bigfoot.

00:17:53.000 Yeah, that's not my thing.

00:17:55.000 Well, you're a man.

00:17:57.000 It seems to be ladies like their stuff in writing. 1.00

00:18:04.000 That's what they like. 0.98

00:18:05.000 They like reading their pornography. 0.99

00:18:07.000 Yeah, they also like monsters. 0.99

00:18:08.000 Yes.

00:18:09.000 Werewolves and vampires.

00:18:10.000 Vampires.

00:18:11.000 They like vampires that fall in love with them. 0.87

00:18:13.000 He's going to eat everybody else, so not me.

00:18:15.000 But you can change them.

00:18:16.000 Yeah, you can change them. 0.99

00:18:17.000 That's also why some crazy ladies like serial killers. 1.00

00:18:21.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:18:22.000 Even serial killers that kill a bunch of women, they write to them. 0.93

00:18:25.000 Like Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker.

00:18:27.000 Tons of women were writing to him in jail. 1.00

00:18:29.000 Ted Bundy, too.

00:18:30.000 Yeah.

00:18:32.000 Strange.

00:18:33.000 I'm a big fan of true crime, so I'm not sexually aroused by it.

00:18:37.000 Well, congratulations.

00:18:38.000 That's a good thing.

00:18:39.000 That is a very good thing.

00:18:41.000 But the thing about Predators versus Bigfoot or any of these things, there seems to be...

00:18:52.000 The unknown animals, for whatever reason, are the ones that are most perplexing to us, the ones we're most fascinated by.

00:18:58.000 Like, an orca, I think, is more fascinating than Bigfoot.

00:19:02.000 Like, if Bigfoot was just Gigantopithecus, it was just an enormous orangutan-looking creature that lived in the woods and was omnivorous and ate a bunch of stuff and tried to hide from people, it'd be kind of cool.

00:19:14.000 But it wouldn't really be as cool as this insanely intelligent super dolphin That lives in the ocean and, you know, has this strong family bond and, you know...

00:19:24.000 Teach their different styles of dispatching prey.

00:19:27.000 Uh-huh, yeah.

00:19:28.000 Teach them how to knock over ice shelves to get a seal to slide off.

00:19:32.000 That seal footage is so tragic where it's waving it down.

00:19:35.000 Yeah, it sucks for the seal.

00:19:36.000 You're rooting for the seal, but...

00:19:37.000 You're rooting for him, but you know he's doomed.

00:19:40.000 I keep wondering, because you know how orcas are going after boats now?

00:19:44.000 Yeah.

00:19:44.000 None of the people that I'm aware of have successfully gotten in the water, so I keep wondering what they would do to the people.

00:19:52.000 I don't think there's any record of them killing human beings other than human beings in, like, SeaWorld and stuff like that, but that's just...

00:20:00.000 Would there be a record?

00:20:02.000 That's a good question.

00:20:04.000 There would if there were survivors, and there's a lot of record of shark attacks, obviously.

00:20:08.000 Well, those are...

00:20:09.000 I don't give any mind to the records of shark attacks.

00:20:14.000 Well, it is so hard to report a shark attack.

00:20:18.000 So if I go swimming and I leave my stuff on the beach and someone calls the police, I didn't come home or whatever, and they find me mangled on the beach the next day, I had a cardiac event and then was scavenged by sharks.

00:20:34.000 You think so?

00:20:35.000 I'm positive.

00:20:35.000 That's how the...

00:20:38.000 I-S-A-F, International Shark Attack File.

00:20:42.000 It's very difficult for a shark attack victim to be reported.

00:20:45.000 That's interesting.

00:20:46.000 Do you think they do that so that they discourage people becoming vigilantes and going out and killing sharks?

00:20:54.000 They're trying to make it seem...

00:20:56.000 I think it's legit, like a JAWS thing.

00:20:59.000 They don't want to make it seem dangerous.

00:21:01.000 Right.

00:21:01.000 They don't want to make it seem like it's a bad place for tourists.

00:21:04.000 Right.

00:21:04.000 I would not go into the ocean where there are sharks.

00:21:06.000 And I know that sounds nuts, but I wouldn't.

00:21:08.000 It's not worth it.

00:21:09.000 My buddy Duncan was in Hawaii, either just after, I can't remember, or just before a guy got killed by a shark at the same resort that he was at.

00:21:17.000 Some guy was swimming at a tiger shark, just took him out.

00:21:21.000 I'm actually working on a shark attack video now.

00:21:25.000 There's a lot of untruths people talk about with sharks, I think.

00:21:30.000 Or maybe misunderstandings.

00:21:32.000 They just caught a bull shark in Texas in a river.

00:21:34.000 Yeah.

00:21:35.000 Real recently.

00:21:36.000 And those are the scary ones.

00:21:38.000 They are. 1.00

00:21:39.000 Those fuckers are super aggressive and they go into freshwater all the way up to Illinois. 1.00

00:21:43.000 They found them in Illinois. 1.00

00:21:44.000 Alton, yeah.

00:21:47.000 So you're deep in this.

00:21:48.000 So you think it's a Jaws thing.

00:21:51.000 So they're just trying to not...

00:21:53.000 What do you think ever happened with that Egyptian one? 1.00

00:21:55.000 The Egyptian one's the craziest one. 1.00

00:21:57.000 Did you ever see that footage with the guys screaming for his father? 0.94

00:22:01.000 That's brutal.

00:22:02.000 So again, did you know that the shark that did that paraded the head around?

00:22:08.000 So that's one of the things that I said is misinformation.

00:22:11.000 I hate that I'm using that word.

00:22:13.000 Yeah, that word's been tainted.

00:22:14.000 Yeah, that word's been tainted.

00:22:17.000 So they say it's mistaken identity.

00:22:22.000 Sharks attack because they're pissed.

00:22:26.000 That's why they attack?

00:22:27.000 Yes.

00:22:27.000 They're not just hungry?

00:22:28.000 Correct.

00:22:29.000 I mean, I can't be certain, but that would be my opinion.

00:22:34.000 Because do you remember when I was a kid, I saw all these shark documentaries that they would show the surfer and then a sea turtle or a seal side by side?

00:22:45.000 From the bottom, they don't look the same at all.

00:22:47.000 No.

00:22:48.000 And sharks are one big sensory organ.

00:22:50.000 And where they hang out, they hang out at the bottom.

00:22:53.000 And then they're silhouetted by light from the top.

00:22:55.000 They can see perfectly.

00:22:56.000 They're in the water all their lives.

00:22:58.000 They're one big sensory organ.

00:22:59.000 They know what they're attacking.

00:23:01.000 And I think they want people out of their water.

00:23:03.000 Because that wasn't even a consumption with that guy, with the guy who was yelling, Papa...

00:23:09.000 Yeah.

00:23:10.000 Whatever his name was.

00:23:11.000 While Stand By Me was playing in the background.

00:23:13.000 And that woman, oh my god, oh my god. 1.00

00:23:15.000 It seems like a movie.

00:23:17.000 Yeah, it does.

00:23:18.000 And then, yeah, because you know the part where it turns him underwater and his legs go up?

00:23:24.000 Yeah.

00:23:25.000 It took off his jaw.

00:23:26.000 Because after that, he's gargling.

00:23:29.000 Oh.

00:23:31.000 Yeah, and...

00:23:33.000 Popov's body was reportedly examined by forensic experts at a morgue in Hurghada who claimed he was disfigured and with many parts missing.

00:23:43.000 The shark said to have torn his head off, disfigured his face and separated body parts that were retrieved from the sea.

00:23:50.000 It's also reported the beast ripped apart his chest and ate parts of his abdomen and hands.

00:23:54.000 See that's not an attempt to predate in my opinion.

00:23:57.000 Interesting.

00:23:58.000 So you think that people get in the way of fish and seals, and that's probably what the sharks actually want to eat? 0.99

00:24:05.000 And these assholes are flopping around and farting in the water? 0.99

00:24:10.000 Or she just had pups nearby? 1.00

00:24:12.000 There's anything like that.

00:24:15.000 There was also the story that I read about that particular attack where they were saying that some ranchers had dumped sheep carcasses.

00:24:26.000 Did you hear about that?

00:24:27.000 I still don't think that that...

00:24:31.000 Sharks know what they're biting. 0.96

00:24:32.000 Because if a shark bites something hard, it really damages them.

00:24:37.000 They know what they bite before they bite it.

00:24:39.000 And I agree that sharks don't see us as food.

00:24:44.000 Sometimes they do if they're desperate.

00:24:46.000 But I think we're far from ideal.

00:24:48.000 Because if they did eat us, they would eat us all the time.

00:24:50.000 Right.

00:24:50.000 All the time.

00:24:51.000 Yeah.

00:24:51.000 So I think...

00:24:53.000 Because you know how great whites in California don't eat people? 0.93

00:24:56.000 Right. 0.99

00:24:56.000 They only attack people. 0.99

00:24:57.000 Right.

00:24:58.000 Because we're literally in the surf where seals like to be.

00:25:13.000 The rest of people are going to be gone.

00:25:15.000 Right.

00:25:16.000 It'll clear the area for a while.

00:25:17.000 Right.

00:25:18.000 Is this your own personal theory?

00:25:19.000 Oh, no.

00:25:21.000 There's an amazing channel called Sharks Happen.

00:25:24.000 And it's so funny, too, because the guy, he's not a marine biologist or anything.

00:25:28.000 His name is just Hal.

00:25:29.000 He's a machinist in Michigan.

00:25:31.000 And it's so funny, because I fundamentally think he knows more about sharks than anyone that I've listened to.

00:25:37.000 And I think it's funny how some guy in Michigan is the expert.

00:25:42.000 That is funny.

00:25:42.000 No.

00:25:43.000 Yeah.

00:25:44.000 Like, how are you getting your information, bro?

00:25:47.000 He's good at it.

00:25:47.000 He goes back on newspapers.

00:25:49.000 Because, you know, to him, all the marine biologists are just so full of it.

00:25:55.000 And there is some of that.

00:25:56.000 There really is.

00:25:57.000 Because they will skew something so far to not blame the sharks.

00:26:02.000 Yeah.

00:26:02.000 Really?

00:26:03.000 Yeah, like, this kid, probably like 20 years ago now, had his leg ripped off by a bull shark, which is terrifying to think, because it, like, clamped onto his calf, and then it, in shallow water, and his leg came off not where it was bit.

00:26:18.000 So it, like, ripped it off.

00:26:20.000 And I can't recall his name, but that was not in the shark stats as, that was in the shark stats as provoked, because the kid was fishing earlier.

00:26:31.000 Oh.

00:26:32.000 So it's like that's a provoked attack.

00:26:34.000 So fishing is a provoked attack?

00:26:36.000 Being like a seven-year-old in knee-deep water after someone was fishing is a provoked attack.

00:26:41.000 That's crazy.

00:26:42.000 And that's not in the stats the same way.

00:26:43.000 So that's not in a shark attack.

00:26:45.000 Oh, interesting.

00:26:46.000 So there's shark attacks where there's no possible evidence of provocation.

00:26:50.000 And then there's provoked shark attacks like, oh, you were asking for it?

00:26:54.000 Correct.

00:26:55.000 Wow.

00:26:55.000 Yeah.

00:26:56.000 And that's the video I'm working on.

00:26:57.000 I go through all the attacks in 2015 and I say like, okay, these are, I think it was like, I hope I'm not wrong about this, but like 11 or 12 attacks that they say are legit attacks because they were unprovoked.

00:27:12.000 They were like random attacks.

00:27:13.000 But then I talk about the other like 20 that were provoked attacks.

00:27:17.000 Yeah.

00:27:17.000 And so when you see shark attack statistics, they only say unprovoked attacks?

00:27:22.000 Correct.

00:27:23.000 So they're trying to downplay a shark attack.

00:27:25.000 Correct.

00:27:25.000 And as I said, there are so many people who just get found bitten up and like, oh, they drowned.

00:27:30.000 And they got scavenged because sharks are scavengers and sharks don't eat people.

00:27:34.000 That's so crazy.

00:27:35.000 That's interesting.

00:27:36.000 I never really thought about that.

00:27:37.000 The attacks are very skewed.

00:27:40.000 It's very fascinating to me how our attitude about sharks changed with the whole shark fin soup thing.

00:27:47.000 Like, all of a sudden, everybody wanted to protect sharks.

00:27:50.000 Like, you shouldn't fish for sharks.

00:27:51.000 Like, you shouldn't eat sharks.

00:27:53.000 Because, you know, Mako shark has always been served in restaurants.

00:27:57.000 I've had Mako shark a bunch of times in restaurants.

00:27:59.000 It's very good.

00:27:59.000 It tastes like swordfish.

00:28:01.000 But suddenly, sharks were supposed to be protected. 1.00

00:28:05.000 Like, Jesus, shouldn't we protect the fucking tuna? 0.99

00:28:08.000 Like, tuna are delicious, they don't kill you, they're majestic, amazing creatures, and we've killed like 90% of them in the ocean. 0.99

00:28:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:28:15.000 I mean, fuck sharks. 1.00

00:28:16.000 That's what I think. 1.00

00:28:17.000 I mean, I love sharks. 1.00

00:28:19.000 Me too, but fuck them. 1.00

00:28:20.000 Yeah, I mean, they're assholes. 1.00

00:28:21.000 Yeah, they can go fuck off. 1.00

00:28:24.000 There's an area in Key West where people fish off the piers, where you have to pull in your fish so fast because the waters are infested with sharks. 1.00

00:28:34.000 Well, that's a whole...

00:28:34.000 Problem now with sharks because they're learning it's easier to pull it off our hooks.

00:28:39.000 Which makes sense.

00:28:40.000 Sure.

00:28:40.000 So they hang around piers for people to fish.

00:28:43.000 And then when someone catches a big one and it takes a while to get in, they're like, oh, here we go.

00:28:47.000 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

00:28:50.000 There's an incredible video of this guy is pulling in a tuna, and as he's pulling in a tuna, this great white cuts the tuna in half.

00:28:59.000 Have you seen that?

00:28:59.000 I have seen that.

00:29:01.000 Have you ever been people swallowed alive by white sharks?

00:29:04.000 Geez! 0.99

00:29:07.000 Look, they're real, and if they weren't, they would be the craziest monster ever.

00:29:12.000 We have this very bizarre thing with the human mind where we become accustomed to things.

00:29:17.000 You know, we're accustomed to cell phones.

00:29:19.000 You show a cell phone to a guy in 1400s, he thinks you're a wizard, you know? 0.98

00:29:22.000 To us it's like, oh, that one sucks, you got a small phone. 0.85

00:29:27.000 But there's something bizarre where we get accustomed to these insane creatures, like sharks. 0.71

00:29:33.000 I often think that, because there are so many creatures right now that I would give anything to be able to see that are extinct.

00:29:41.000 But there are probably so many alive right now that if they were extinct, I would wish I could see them.

00:29:46.000 But I take them for granted that they're not extinct.

00:29:48.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

00:29:49.000 The giraffe, I think, is one of them.

00:29:51.000 Right.

00:29:51.000 If I saw a giraffe, or the fossil or skeleton of one, I'd be like, I wonder what that thing looked like.

00:29:56.000 Well, I found out about your page because I saw the video about the 50-foot crocodile in the Congo.

00:30:03.000 And as a person who's...

00:30:06.000 I've always been obsessed with crocodiles.

00:30:08.000 I think they're, you know, one of...

00:30:12.000 One of the coolest animals that ever has existed and the fact that they're with us right now and you get to see this insane creature that can go without eating for a year, lays completely still in six inches of water and then explodes and pulls a zebra into the water.

00:30:28.000 They're just amazing. 0.90

00:30:30.000 They're amazing and they're so fucking big, man. 0.98

00:30:34.000 Yes. 0.98

00:30:35.000 So like that alligator that we have out there that you saw in the lobby, that's 14 feet.

00:30:39.000 Yeah, that's not even a big alligator.

00:30:40.000 I mean, it's a big alligator.

00:30:41.000 It's a big alligator, but it's not a big crocodile.

00:30:44.000 It's a little baby crocodile.

00:30:45.000 It's not a huge alligator.

00:30:47.000 No.

00:30:48.000 What is the biggest alligator?

00:30:50.000 I think it's 20 feet, right?

00:30:52.000 19 feet, 9 inches.

00:30:53.000 Oh, okay.

00:30:54.000 Is that a Florida alligator?

00:30:56.000 I want to say it was Alabama.

00:30:58.000 Really? 1.00

00:30:58.000 No shit. 1.00

00:31:00.000 Alabama. 1.00

00:31:00.000 That's interesting. 1.00

00:31:01.000 Yeah, like, it's all up in that whole area.

00:31:05.000 Like, Louisiana has a bunch of them.

00:31:07.000 Texas has a bunch of them.

00:31:08.000 Northern Texas has started to show alligators.

00:31:11.000 There was a sighting yesterday, actually.

00:31:13.000 There was a video that these guys took of these two alligators swimming in a lake in northern Texas. 0.98

00:31:19.000 People were like, what the fuck are they doing up here? 0.99

00:31:21.000 They're expanding. 0.98

00:31:22.000 When I was a kid, I lived in Gainesville, Florida, from when I was 11 till I was 13. And Gainesville had a lot of alligators.

00:31:30.000 It's like where the University of Florida is.

00:31:32.000 And there's a place called, what is it called?

00:31:36.000 Lake Alice, I think it is.

00:31:37.000 And that's where the alligators used to be.

00:31:39.000 And I remember when I was there, this lady, she got her, her little dog got eaten.

00:31:43.000 She was walking her little dog by the water and just jumped out of the water and snatched her dog. 1.00

00:31:48.000 Everybody was freaked out, like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:31:50.000 It ate her dog. 1.00

00:31:51.000 Have you seen that footage of the alligator that grabs that woman's dog and then she tries to go in after it and it gives up the dog and takes her?

00:31:58.000 Yeah.

00:31:58.000 Yeah, that's pretty brutal.

00:31:59.000 Very brutal.

00:32:00.000 Yeah.

00:32:01.000 They target people.

00:32:03.000 Yeah, they don't target people as much as crocodiles do, but they definitely do.

00:32:06.000 They eat people.

00:32:07.000 And they're everywhere.

00:32:09.000 There's so many of them in Florida.

00:32:11.000 They're just infested.

00:32:13.000 And they were protected when I was a kid.

00:32:15.000 I know.

00:32:16.000 There's this great clip I found a long time ago online about, it's like from the 70s, and it's this woman talking about how this might be the last alligator we ever see.

00:32:26.000 Because they're trying to make it seem so endangered.

00:32:29.000 And it's like, I don't think so.

00:32:30.000 They thought they were, and I wonder why.

00:32:32.000 I wonder why they thought they were, and I wonder what kind of an accurate accounting of the animals in the Everglades they had.

00:32:40.000 I don't think we could.

00:32:41.000 I mean, with poison we probably could, but I don't think there's any feasible way to exterminate alligators, even if we tried, which we weren't.

00:32:47.000 Well, certainly not now.

00:32:50.000 I wonder if maybe the ecosystem was better in check before people came along.

00:32:54.000 Like, you know, when you think about Florida.

00:32:59.000 Florida, I think, was the first ever city in the country.

00:33:03.000 Is that correct?

00:33:04.000 I believe St. Augustine, maybe?

00:33:05.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:33:07.000 So, that's where, you know, that's where Cabeza de Vaca landed.

00:33:14.000 He landed in Florida, right, when he made his trek across the country.

00:33:17.000 And so, it's a long, I mean, there's hundreds of years of people living there, but cities don't really emerge.

00:33:26.000 Like, that kind of Florida life, when is that?

00:33:31.000 When does Miami emerge?

00:33:33.000 When do you start seeing cities?

00:33:36.000 Like the early 1900s?

00:33:38.000 What?

00:33:38.000 I mean, no.

00:33:40.000 It's got to be.

00:33:40.000 Earlier than that?

00:33:41.000 Earlier than that, yeah.

00:33:42.000 But what does it look like?

00:33:44.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.93

00:33:45.000 When does it start fucking with the habitat of the alligators? 0.95

00:33:49.000 Because a lot of Miami, they actually filled in. 0.93

00:33:52.000 Yeah.

00:33:53.000 They gotta drain the swamps. 0.99

00:33:54.000 Right.

00:33:57.000 Legitimately.

00:33:58.000 And they had to...

00:33:59.000 I don't know how the fuck they even did it, but that's the real concern about if the ocean level rises, like a lot of stuff is super porous. 0.66

00:34:06.000 It's just gonna flood all that area. 0.96

00:34:08.000 Yeah.

00:34:08.000 But I wonder how much of an impact human beings have.

00:34:13.000 There was the Florida panther.

00:34:15.000 There was a lot of...

00:34:15.000 And then also back then, there was no snakes, right?

00:34:19.000 So right now, not no snakes, but no pythons.

00:34:23.000 Burmese pythons, which are an invasive species that...

00:34:26.000 Apparently there's two sources.

00:34:28.000 One of them is pets, and the other one was there was a research center that got hit by a storm, and they lost a bunch of pythons, which is kind of hilarious.

00:34:37.000 Yeah.

00:34:37.000 And also Nile crocodiles.

00:34:40.000 There's Nile crocodiles in the Everglades.

00:34:41.000 Really?

00:34:42.000 I didn't know that.

00:34:42.000 Yeah.

00:34:43.000 There's a breeding population, they think.

00:34:44.000 Wow.

00:34:45.000 They think they...

00:34:46.000 Well, they've already found several, and they have shoot-on-sight orders for Nile crocodiles.

00:34:52.000 I've seen reports online, but unreliable.

00:34:54.000 Guys saying, really?

00:34:55.000 Took her cattle.

00:34:56.000 They're stealing cows.

00:34:58.000 Yeah.

00:34:58.000 I don't know if that's true.

00:34:59.000 Like a 16-foot Nile crocodile stealing cattle.

00:35:02.000 It could.

00:35:03.000 It certainly could.

00:35:04.000 But I don't know if they ever got to be that big.

00:35:07.000 And I do know that two that they captured shared the same genetics.

00:35:11.000 So they're from a very close genetic line, so they think they were related.

00:35:17.000 This is the first number I could find about extinction.

00:35:21.000 Serious threat.

00:35:23.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:35:24.000 100,000.

00:35:25.000 Endoquine disrupting pesticides like DDT. That kind of makes sense.

00:35:29.000 The other thing I read was more about hunting for leather.

00:35:32.000 Okay.

00:35:33.000 And meat.

00:35:33.000 Yeah.

00:35:34.000 It's up to 5 million now.

00:35:36.000 Oh, that's so crazy.

00:35:38.000 5 million.

00:35:39.000 They say if there is a pond in Florida, there is likely an alligator in our pond.

00:35:43.000 Likely.

00:35:44.000 More likely than not.

00:35:45.000 There's a giant reptile that's swimming around in the bottom of that thing and occasionally poking its eyeballs up.

00:35:52.000 And then drop them back down.

00:35:54.000 There is now, because of the pythons, 90 plus percent of all mammals in the Everglades are missing.

00:36:03.000 Really?

00:36:04.000 Yeah.

00:36:04.000 Wow.

00:36:05.000 Find out what the actual number is.

00:36:06.000 I think it's higher than 90 percent.

00:36:08.000 I think it might be 99 percent.

00:36:10.000 Like the sightings and the accounts of animals and the record of animals and when wildlife biologists do a count and they try to get an accurate assessment of what the population numbers are.

00:36:23.000 It's down in some preposterous number.

00:36:27.000 And then snakes are everywhere.

00:36:29.000 It's the number one place for Burmese pythons on Earth. 0.96

00:36:31.000 Yeah.

00:36:32.000 Well, the Everglades.

00:36:33.000 Invasive species have such an advantage because no one knows how to deal with them.

00:36:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:36:37.000 And these fuckers are huge. 1.00

00:36:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:36:40.000 And you see how they're eating alligators now, too? 1.00

00:36:43.000 Yes.

00:36:44.000 I mean, that would make sense, but I'm sure that plenty of them are getting eaten, too.

00:36:47.000 90% decline of animals in the area due to pythons.

00:36:50.000 Wow.

00:36:52.000 Nuts.

00:36:53.000 Yeah, they're eating alligators. 0.99

00:36:55.000 It's like a famous photograph of an alligator that's inside a python's body and it burst.

00:37:00.000 Yeah, I have seen that.

00:37:01.000 So it burst out.

00:37:01.000 Yeah.

00:37:02.000 Isn't that a caiman though?

00:37:04.000 Do not know.

00:37:05.000 Are there caimans in the Everglades?

00:37:07.000 No, I think just the picture I'm thinking of.

00:37:09.000 No, there aren't, but there's a picture I'm thinking of.

00:37:11.000 There might be actually caimans in the Everglades, even though they're South American. 0.99

00:37:14.000 Some asshole might have let them go. 0.98

00:37:16.000 I should have said that to me, not to you, that the picture I was thinking of is a caiman that busted out of an anaconda. 1.00

00:37:22.000 Oh, okay.

00:37:23.000 Yeah, I'm sure that happens, too.

00:37:24.000 I think this one is different.

00:37:25.000 This is in the Everglades, and it's a python and a smaller alligator.

00:37:30.000 I think it's like, yeah, there it is.

00:37:33.000 Oh, no, that's the one I was thinking of.

00:37:35.000 There's a couple different ones, unless they're all the same.

00:37:37.000 Oh, yeah, I'm sure there's a bunch.

00:37:38.000 There's one up top that's eaten one.

00:37:40.000 Look at that one.

00:37:41.000 The one, the image.

00:37:43.000 Oh, that's an alligator eating a python, so they eat each other.

00:37:49.000 Yeah, depending on who's bigger.

00:37:51.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:37:53.000 Just the idea that that thing could swallow a fucking alligator is just so bizarre. 0.99

00:37:58.000 Yeah, that's another animal that if it didn't exist, like a crocodile, if it didn't exist, you'd be like, what are you talking about? 0.99

00:38:06.000 There's a 50-foot giant reptile that's hiding in the water, and if you go out there, it eats you?

00:38:12.000 So I'm also a dinosaur nerd.

00:38:15.000 And are you familiar with the updated Quetzalcoatl?

00:38:20.000 No.

00:38:21.000 So they found this trackway.

00:38:23.000 Now we know that they were competent quadrupeds.

00:38:26.000 But this trackway abruptly...

00:38:28.000 So Quetzalcoatl was a real thing?

00:38:31.000 The giant pterosaurs?

00:38:33.000 Quetzalcoatl is the Aztec god.

00:38:37.000 You know, the winged serpent?

00:38:39.000 I think that that's where they named the flying reptile office.

00:38:42.000 Oh, okay.

00:38:43.000 I didn't even know that there was an actual dinosaur named Quetzalcoatl.

00:38:46.000 Well, now you're making me nervous.

00:38:48.000 Well, we don't.

00:38:48.000 The good thing is we have Jamie.

00:38:50.000 I'm no expert.

00:38:51.000 But I remember Quetzalcoatl was this insane Aztec... 1.00

00:38:59.000 Serpent.

00:39:00.000 Okay, here it is.

00:39:01.000 Yeah.

00:39:01.000 Look at that thing.

00:39:02.000 So it's a winged reptile-like bird.

00:39:06.000 But they found this trackway that suddenly became much longer stride, which means it started sprinting.

00:39:16.000 Whoa.

00:39:17.000 And if you look up...

00:39:19.000 Quetzalcoatl compared to a giraffe.

00:39:21.000 They were like sprinting around.

00:39:22.000 So they thought forever that they had to jump off something to make flight.

00:39:26.000 But now we know that they were able to go fast enough to make their own flight.

00:39:30.000 So this thing is, they're as big as giraffes.

00:39:33.000 They're as big as giraffes and they can fly and they're predatory. 0.95

00:39:35.000 And it's believed that they're probably the only thing around that would have given Tyrannosaurus rex paws.

00:39:42.000 Whoa.

00:39:43.000 In a fight, T-Rex could obviously win.

00:39:45.000 But imagine being able to sprint.

00:39:47.000 Because that spear would do some damage.

00:39:49.000 Wow.

00:39:50.000 Wow.

00:39:52.000 I didn't know that they called them Quetzalcoatl.

00:39:54.000 Well, wingspan of 40 feet.

00:39:56.000 Yeah, Quetzalcoatlus, the largest known animal to take to the sky.

00:40:01.000 A few fossilized, but known from only a few fossilized bones from West Texas.

00:40:06.000 Just how such a massive animal got airborne has been mostly a matter of speculation.

00:40:12.000 Some think it rocked forward on its wingtips like a vampire bat or that it built up speed by running and flapping like an albatross.

00:40:18.000 Or that it didn't fly at all, but according to new research, the mammoth creature probably leaped jumping at least eight feet into the air before lifting off by sweeping its wings.

00:40:28.000 Whoa.

00:40:29.000 Yeah, so imagine, like, you're driving at that thing in a car.

00:40:32.000 It could take off before you hit it.

00:40:35.000 You know, I don't know.

00:40:36.000 It's just nuts.

00:40:37.000 I'm sure you know about terror birds.

00:40:39.000 Of course.

00:40:40.000 Yes.

00:40:42.000 Those are here.

00:40:43.000 Yeah.

00:40:44.000 Right?

00:40:44.000 And didn't they exist?

00:40:45.000 Like, what was the most recent...

00:40:48.000 When did...

00:40:49.000 How long ago did terror birds exist?

00:40:51.000 They existed with people.

00:40:53.000 No, I don't think so.

00:40:54.000 No?

00:40:54.000 No.

00:40:55.000 I don't believe so.

00:40:57.000 I think it's millions.

00:41:00.000 It says didn't exist with people.

00:41:03.000 Last sets of terror birds extinct over 10,000 years ago.

00:41:07.000 Oh.

00:41:07.000 Possible for that one, but this says there's no way humans could have ever met the terror birds.

00:41:11.000 Why is that?

00:41:12.000 Yeah.

00:41:13.000 If it's 10,000 years ago, how could they say that?

00:41:14.000 It says the research regarding the possibility of humans living aside them says that there are no way.

00:41:18.000 I don't know.

00:41:19.000 Oh, I don't believe that.

00:41:20.000 A researcher said it. 1.00

00:41:21.000 Yeah, you don't know, bitch. 1.00

00:41:22.000 There's no way you know what happened 10,000 years ago. 0.99

00:41:24.000 If they lived 10,000 years ago and we lived 10,000 years ago, it's open to speculation.

00:41:30.000 For sure.

00:41:31.000 It's open.

00:41:32.000 This one says between 53 million and 18,000 years ago.

00:41:36.000 Oh, how weird.

00:41:37.000 That's a huge window. 1.00

00:41:37.000 What a fucking window. 1.00

00:41:38.000 Like, they don't know? 1.00

00:41:39.000 Hey, man, you guys need to do some more work. 1.00

00:41:42.000 Don't be making me fucking look stupid from a Google search. 1.00

00:41:46.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:41:47.000 That's such a wide stretch.

00:41:50.000 53 million to 18,000?

00:41:52.000 Well, if it is 18,000, people are here.

00:41:55.000 They found footprints.

00:41:57.000 I think they're in the 22,000 years range.

00:42:00.000 Yeah, I thought it went up even more recently than that.

00:42:02.000 I think you're right.

00:42:02.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:42:04.000 And this is like what's thrown that Clovis first hypothesis into a sort of a tailspin.

00:42:11.000 I suspect that there was a lot more civilization than we know about going on in North America, particularly, but everywhere else, too.

00:42:19.000 I think you're right.

00:42:20.000 I think you're definitely right.

00:42:22.000 And I think a lot of Native American people take offense to the Bering Strait hypothesis.

00:42:29.000 You know, that people all came over here from Asia into the North American landmass through the Bering Land Bridge. 1.00

00:42:36.000 A lot of Native Americans say that's a crock of shit. 1.00

00:42:39.000 Really? 1.00

00:42:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:42:40.000 They think that people were always here.

00:42:43.000 That think people had come from South America, they existed in South America before, they made it up through here, that people lived here, and that we really don't have an accurate account.

00:42:51.000 Like to say that I think the idea behind it is Native Americans, if they really did come from Asia, well, they're just immigrants too, right?

00:43:03.000 And what they're saying is there's no real evidence of that.

00:43:06.000 And in fact, the evidence of human beings being here is so far back before that Before even the Ice Age, that – and this is pretty clear with the footprints that they found – that there's other explanations to how humans got here.

00:43:22.000 And perhaps, even though – the problem is there's no other primates here, right?

00:43:27.000 Like North America.

00:43:28.000 Yeah, the humans didn't – as far as I know, I don't – Didn't evolve here.

00:43:32.000 No.

00:43:32.000 Right.

00:43:33.000 Wasn't it only the Caucasus in Africa, I believe?

00:43:36.000 Yeah.

00:43:37.000 And then also primates in South America.

00:43:40.000 That gets weird because you have different monkeys.

00:43:43.000 That's a big mystery in my opinion.

00:43:45.000 Yeah.

00:43:45.000 I mean, right now the best hypothesis is that primates came over on floating vegetation.

00:43:50.000 What?

00:43:51.000 Well, so the distance was less, but not by a lot.

00:43:55.000 Oh, so this is Pangea times?

00:43:56.000 No.

00:43:57.000 I mean, there are still continents, but it was...

00:43:59.000 But I mean as it's like separating?

00:44:01.000 Correct.

00:44:01.000 And I don't know.

00:44:03.000 That seems weird to me.

00:44:04.000 How many monkeys are going to get on a raft? 0.72

00:44:05.000 I mean like if there's a hurricane and it's a bunch of them.

00:44:09.000 But how many?

00:44:11.000 How?

00:44:12.000 What?

00:44:12.000 That would be nuts.

00:44:13.000 That's crazy.

00:44:14.000 I think North America only has one primate that was not...

00:44:20.000 Believed to be invasive, which was Smilodectus, I think.

00:44:24.000 So all the primates in South America are believed to be invasive?

00:44:28.000 Well, I mean, depends on how you define invasive, but from the old world is what they're called.

00:44:33.000 Old world versus new world monkeys.

00:44:35.000 Wow.

00:44:36.000 There's so many mysteries, right?

00:44:38.000 There's so many mysteries with human beings, like when they settled here.

00:44:43.000 Are you aware of, there's a guy who's done a lot of research on that wall in Montana?

00:44:49.000 Do you know that wall in Montana? 1.00

00:44:50.000 So there's an ancient wall in Montana that some people have tried to say is a natural rock formation, and almost anybody looks at it and goes, you're out of your fucking mind. 0.99

00:45:02.000 That's 100% placed in stacked stones. 0.96

00:45:05.000 But the problem is this ancient wall.

00:45:08.000 Look at that. 1.00

00:45:09.000 I mean, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:45:10.000 How is that? 1.00

00:45:11.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:45:12.000 Just shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:45:13.000 Can I see the original picture, Jamie? 1.00

00:45:16.000 That one.

00:45:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:45:18.000 I mean, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:45:20.000 Someone stack that. 0.99

00:45:21.000 For sure.

00:45:21.000 It's in a straight line.

00:45:22.000 They're stacked on top of each other.

00:45:24.000 They form fit together.

00:45:26.000 They're placed, you know, at the same height.

00:45:30.000 They're carved and transported.

00:45:32.000 Yeah, something was going on, right?

00:45:34.000 So some ancient, ancient civilization had this, and I think it's several football fields long.

00:45:42.000 I think it's really long.

00:45:44.000 Like, I think what they've discovered versus how much more of it could be, because also a lot of it is covered in dirt.

00:45:51.000 And if this thing is, you know, 25, 30,000 years old, who knows how long it is, how long it's been there.

00:45:57.000 Like, who knows how deep it even goes.

00:46:00.000 The sage wall.

00:46:02.000 That's what it is.

00:46:04.000 So what is that all about?

00:46:07.000 Like, that was on private land.

00:46:08.000 And apparently, originally, it was covered in trees and they cleared the area.

00:46:13.000 And so initially, people were thinking that it was some sort of a natural formation.

00:46:18.000 But as they cleared the area, they're like, wait a minute.

00:46:20.000 What is this?

00:46:21.000 So no explanation, no civilization tied to that area, especially one that's capable of moving monolithic stones.

00:46:29.000 In 1996, they found it.

00:46:31.000 While hiking around the property one day, we discovered the Sage Wall.

00:46:35.000 The wall is 275 feet long and 24 feet high.

00:46:40.000 A jaw-dropping marvel.

00:46:42.000 In order to make these boulder areas more accessible and highlight their beauty, we created a moderate two-mile trail system.

00:46:49.000 Additional features of the trail include 400-year-old Douglas fir trees, the spectacular views of the Ruby Valley 20 miles away, and the Highland Mountain Range sitting at 10,000 feet in elevation.

00:47:00.000 So this is it.

00:47:01.000 This is like high elevation.

00:47:05.000 Covered in trees on a piece of private land that these people just hadn't noticed that they had this thing on there.

00:47:11.000 You know, it's probably some massive ranch in Montana.

00:47:14.000 And then like, okay, what's this?

00:47:17.000 No explanations.

00:47:18.000 No one knows what it is.

00:47:19.000 And I love how people try to write things like that off.

00:47:23.000 Oh, that's just a natural formation. 1.00

00:47:25.000 Well, fuck you it is. 1.00

00:47:26.000 You know it's not. 1.00

00:47:27.000 I know you don't have an explanation, and this throws your whole understanding of human civilization in North America into the garbage pen.

00:47:35.000 He really does throw it in the garbage bin, because what happened?

00:47:38.000 What was going on there?

00:47:39.000 Was this Vikings? 1.00

00:47:40.000 Who fucking did this? 1.00

00:47:41.000 Who did it and when? 0.99

00:47:42.000 Well, I think a lot of people make the mistake of thinking of Native Americans as one group.

00:47:49.000 I'm sure different groups came over many times, and probably a lot longer than 20,000 years ago, or before 20,000 years ago.

00:47:55.000 Well, we're not exactly sure when people started traveling across the oceans.

00:47:58.000 When did the Polynesians make it to Hawaii?

00:48:02.000 I don't know.

00:48:02.000 We really don't know.

00:48:03.000 It's just guessing.

00:48:05.000 It's kind of guessing.

00:48:06.000 Do they have any sort of carbon dating on any of the material that's related to that stone wall where they have some sort of rough estimation of its construction time?

00:48:25.000 One of the things that's interesting about the Bigfoot thing is that, for whatever reason, Native American tribes don't have a bunch of fake animals. 0.62

00:48:35.000 They don't have dragons and werewolves and shit, but they do have Bigfoot. 0.79

00:48:42.000 And not just one tribe, but many, many, many tribes has a story of this sort of man that lives in the woods. 0.99

00:48:53.000 Which makes you wonder.

00:48:54.000 It sure does.

00:48:55.000 Yeah.

00:49:02.000 Because it's so easy to laugh at.

00:49:04.000 Like, how long have we been here, Europeans, you know?

00:49:06.000 Right.

00:49:06.000 And how long have we had the equipment to even find it?

00:49:09.000 And I do think that if it is real, which is a big if, I do think it's being suppressed.

00:49:16.000 Really?

00:49:16.000 I do.

00:49:17.000 So the government's hiding Bigfoot?

00:49:18.000 Yeah.

00:49:19.000 Really?

00:49:20.000 Would that surprise you?

00:49:21.000 Yeah.

00:49:21.000 It would?

00:49:22.000 Yeah, I think they're too stupid to hide Bigfoot. 1.00

00:49:24.000 They're too stupid to do it well, which is why so many people believe in Bigfoot. 1.00

00:49:28.000 Why would the government hide Bigfoot? 1.00

00:49:31.000 What would be the motivation?

00:49:33.000 If you were the government and you found Bigfoot and you're like, you know what, we've got to keep this from people.

00:49:38.000 I think there might be something about them that, well...

00:49:48.000 For the same reason, I think the wall is collapsing with UFO disclosure.

00:49:54.000 I think people only recently are starting to believe that people can handle things.

00:49:58.000 Or the government is only recently starting to believe that people can handle things.

00:50:01.000 That's why you think UFO disclosure is going on?

00:50:04.000 Well, that and they can't contain it anymore.

00:50:08.000 I don't share that opinion.

00:50:10.000 Really?

00:50:10.000 Yeah.

00:50:11.000 I think they're covering for some very sophisticated drone technology.

00:50:16.000 That's what I think.

00:50:17.000 Oh, really?

00:50:18.000 Yeah.

00:50:19.000 Well, that's boring.

00:50:20.000 Maybe.

00:50:21.000 But I think it doesn't exclude UFOs.

00:50:25.000 No.

00:50:25.000 This is my perspective.

00:50:27.000 And again, I'm not married to this at all.

00:50:29.000 This is just something that I have in my head.

00:50:31.000 But I believe that...

00:50:35.000 Human beings right now are capable of propulsions.

00:50:39.000 I think we have drones that operate on a completely different propulsion system than standard rocket fuel, fire pushes out the back and the thing goes forward very fast like a jet engine. 0.98

00:50:53.000 Bob Lazar shit? 1.00

00:50:53.000 Bob Lazar shit. 1.00

00:50:54.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:50:55.000 I think they have that.

00:50:56.000 I think they figured out a way to engineer that.

00:50:58.000 The question is where they get it.

00:51:00.000 Right?

00:51:00.000 And that's where I think UFOs come into play.

00:51:02.000 So, like, you think that what was seen by the Nimitz is all ours?

00:51:06.000 It could be.

00:51:07.000 Because it's where it would be.

00:51:09.000 But then why would they disclose themselves?

00:51:10.000 Well, I think they found it, and they reported it, and they did what they had to do, and they didn't really talk about it publicly for many years later.

00:51:19.000 You know, there wasn't a big news story.

00:51:23.000 Commander David Fravor, when I spoke to him, first of all, the guy is as rock-solid a military man as you're ever going to talk to.

00:51:33.000 Just by the book, disciplined fighter pilot.

00:51:36.000 Those guys are detail-oriented. 0.99

00:51:38.000 They don't fuck around. 1.00

00:51:40.000 This guy's not making up stories about other shit. 1.00

00:51:44.000 And when he describes this thing and what they saw, and then there's multiple pilots that see it, and then there's a visual. 0.98

00:51:52.000 They have video of this thing moving off at an insane rate of speed.

00:51:55.000 They have radar imagery that shows it goes from above 50,000 feet above sea level to like 50 in a second. 0.97

00:52:01.000 They don't know how the fuck it did it.

00:52:04.000 It goes to their cat point, so it leaves them once they see it, and it jets off to this point, this predetermined coordinate where they were supposed to meet up as part of their training run. 0.99

00:52:15.000 So how the fuck does it know their cat point? 0.70

00:52:18.000 And where it is, right? 0.98

00:52:19.000 It's off the coast of San Diego.

00:52:21.000 San Diego's a big military area, right?

00:52:23.000 And it's where they do testing, and it's where they were doing the training runs with those jets.

00:52:27.000 That's why they saw it in the first place.

00:52:29.000 If I was going to have a thing, and I was going to test it, and I was going to test it, I would want to know, like, how much do our equipment show?

00:52:42.000 What does our equipment show?

00:52:43.000 Can we see these things?

00:52:45.000 Ryan Graves, who's another very reputable fighter jet pilot, he had his encounters Yeah.

00:53:14.000 Right, so it's a black cube inside some sort of a translucent circle that multiple fighter pilots have reported.

00:53:22.000 And the idea of some sort of gravity distorting thing, one of the features of that they think would be it would look very strange.

00:53:33.000 Like it would look very strange to you, like what you see.

00:53:36.000 And if we have some sort of a gravity distorting drone, That operates on a gravity propulsion system, like somehow manipulates gravity so it can move at insane rates of speed.

00:53:47.000 I think that's where I would test it.

00:53:49.000 I would test it with the military guys.

00:53:51.000 I would test it in restricted airspace.

00:53:52.000 I would test it in place and I would say, okay, let's find out if these guys can see it now.

00:53:57.000 Now we have new equipment.

00:53:58.000 Put the new equipment in their jets.

00:54:00.000 Let's see if they can see these things.

00:54:02.000 The concerning thing about that is if it was done by our own government.

00:54:08.000 I worry that they're trying to set up for a false flag.

00:54:11.000 Like a false UFO flag?

00:54:13.000 Yeah.

00:54:15.000 An alien invasion to lock down our rights. 0.96

00:54:17.000 I mean, if they could stage it.

00:54:20.000 Sure.

00:54:20.000 Because, I mean, with what you're describing, no one would assume that that's human.

00:54:24.000 Right.

00:54:25.000 No one.

00:54:25.000 No one except for people that have followed the Bob Lazar story.

00:54:28.000 Yeah.

00:54:29.000 Because if they were back engineering that thing in 1989, as Bob says...

00:54:32.000 That's true.

00:54:33.000 It's a long time ago.

00:54:35.000 You know, that is...

00:54:36.000 That's a long time.

00:54:38.000 And for them to have 35-plus years...

00:54:43.000 Of working on that.

00:54:44.000 So you got to go back to how long did they have it?

00:54:46.000 He said they've had it for decades.

00:54:48.000 But I think what he was saying back then was they really weren't making any progress.

00:54:53.000 They were trying to figure it out.

00:54:54.000 They kept bringing in new people to try to have fresh eyes.

00:54:58.000 That's why they brought him in. 0.99

00:55:00.000 But they really don't fucking know. 0.98

00:55:02.000 He said they didn't understand how it worked. 0.98

00:55:04.000 And they were trying to get some sort of a working model of it.

00:55:07.000 But they were able to operate it.

00:55:09.000 And that's what he was able to observe.

00:55:12.000 And that was one of the reasons why he got in trouble, allegedly.

00:55:15.000 Where when he got fired, he brought people.

00:55:18.000 They said, listen, I'm not crazy.

00:55:20.000 Let me show you. 1.00

00:55:20.000 They have fucking UFOs. 1.00

00:55:21.000 I'm going to show you this thing. 0.99

00:55:22.000 He brought the people.

00:55:23.000 Yeah, he brought people, and those people all said the same thing.

00:55:26.000 People have filmed it, too.

00:55:28.000 They actually had to increase the restricted space around Area 51 because people were going to a very particular vantage point.

00:55:36.000 And they were filming some of these things.

00:55:38.000 So there's footage of these bizarre crafts that seem to be moving through the sky in a way that no conventional aircraft can do.

00:55:45.000 We don't really know what they are.

00:55:46.000 And we're assuming there's some kind of a drone or something.

00:55:50.000 But I think if you go to 1989 and they have those things, and then if you have all the money in the world, which they essentially do, they could print money, you have black ops projects, you have things that we, you know, because of national security interests, we have no idea what they're doing or how they're doing it.

00:56:07.000 And then you get some of the best physicists in the world, some of the best propulsion experts in the world, and you throw an ungodly amount of money At this problem every year for 30 plus years.

00:56:19.000 Then you develop these things.

00:56:21.000 And I think that's one of the reasons why they would probably keep it secret.

00:56:26.000 Because I would imagine that money was moved around in probably an illegal way.

00:56:36.000 I mean, without congressional oversight, there's no legal way to do it.

00:56:39.000 Exactly, right?

00:56:40.000 So if these guys were doing that and they were funding this secret military project that they kept from Congress, they kept from – I mean, who knows who's qualified to be able to see these things.

00:56:53.000 But if I had something like that, I would – that's the best cover story in the world.

00:56:57.000 We have observed crafts that are not from this world.

00:57:00.000 Like, oh, that explains everything.

00:57:03.000 That's insufficient to me.

00:57:05.000 To me too.

00:57:06.000 Yeah.

00:57:07.000 But it's fun.

00:57:08.000 It is fun.

00:57:08.000 Both of them are fun.

00:57:09.000 And I think both of them...

00:57:11.000 Listen. 0.98

00:57:12.000 The universe is fucking huge. 0.98

00:57:14.000 We exist. 0.96

00:57:15.000 We send things to other planets.

00:57:17.000 There is a rover right now on Mars, right?

00:57:19.000 We send James Webb telescope into space.

00:57:22.000 We send rockets.

00:57:24.000 We do that.

00:57:25.000 We do that.

00:57:26.000 We would assume...

00:57:27.000 An advanced civilization would do that as well.

00:57:29.000 Of course.

00:57:30.000 And we would assume that if an advanced civilization was interested in studying something, we are some of the most fascinating creatures that have ever existed, at least our understanding on Earth.

00:57:40.000 We're the most fascinating by far. 0.96

00:57:42.000 As weird as sharks are and all this other stuff is, we're the fucking weirdest. 0.98

00:57:46.000 We're the weirdest and we're the craziest to study. 1.00

00:57:49.000 And we're intelligent and also stupid. 1.00

00:57:52.000 We're capable of great things and also terrible things. 1.00

00:57:56.000 We're a very, very, very bizarre creature.

00:57:58.000 I think I would most certainly study us.

00:58:01.000 Have you ever thought that maybe we were created by their specifications?

00:58:07.000 All the time.

00:58:08.000 Me too.

00:58:09.000 Yeah, all the time.

00:58:11.000 That's the big mystery of the human brain size, right?

00:58:14.000 The human brain size doubled over a period of two million years.

00:58:17.000 And there's a lot of cool...

00:58:19.000 My favorite story is Terrence McKenna's.

00:58:22.000 He had this theory.

00:58:23.000 It's called the stoned ape theory.

00:58:25.000 And it's about psilocybin.

00:58:26.000 And that these chimpanzees and lower primates started experimenting with psilocybin. 0.70

00:58:31.000 And then over the course of a couple of million years, they developed language, they developed this ability to hunt better, fashion tools, more creativity, glossolalia, attaching sounds to objects and That makes sense.

00:58:45.000 Some sort of telepathy, increased visual acuity that does come from low dose psilocybin use.

00:58:52.000 That seems to me like that makes a lot of sense because it coincides with climate change.

00:58:59.000 When McKenna did this whole theory about it, one of the things he talked about is that the exact time that the rainforest recede into grasslands because of this change in the climate is the time where these animals emerge, start walking on two legs,

00:59:15.000 and then start eating mushrooms, he thinks, and then two million years later become people.

00:59:19.000 Okay.

00:59:20.000 Yeah.

00:59:21.000 That's an interesting one.

00:59:22.000 But the most interesting one is they came here.

00:59:26.000 They saw us.

00:59:27.000 We were like Australopithecus.

00:59:29.000 We were some hairy creature that was kind of primate.

00:59:33.000 Maybe we even started using tools. 1.00

00:59:35.000 And they said, let's fuck with that DNA. Let's make a labradoodle. 1.00

00:59:42.000 I don't think people think big enough in regards to that kind of thing.

00:59:48.000 Because, like, if we had the technology to do what allegedly the aliens, alleged aliens do, we would be doing all sorts of crazy stuff all the time.

00:59:57.000 100%.

00:59:58.000 And, I don't know.

01:00:00.000 If we could introduce intelligent life into a planet, if there was life on a planet and we could introduce our DNA into these lower primates and make them more like us, you don't think we would do it? 1.00

01:00:12.000 No.

01:00:12.000 Yes.

01:00:13.000 100%, right?

01:00:14.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:00:15.000 Yeah, I mean, we monkey with all kinds of things all the time.

01:00:17.000 We're always messing around with creatures' DNA. And there's a story that we talked about recently during World War I in Russia, where Russia was experimenting with hybridizing human beings and chimpanzees for soldiers.

01:00:31.000 Orangutans, too.

01:00:32.000 Yes.

01:00:33.000 They switched brains with an orangutan and a human, and I guess the human with the orangutan brain never regained consciousness, but evidently the human brain in the orangutan did regain consciousness.

01:00:50.000 Really?

01:00:51.000 Yeah.

01:00:52.000 How did they do that?

01:00:53.000 I don't know, but I only know this from a MonsterQuest.

01:00:57.000 Is that real? 0.99

01:00:58.000 MonsterQuest might be a little bullshit. 0.99

01:01:01.000 Although MonsterQuest did bust one of the dumbest things that I used to believe. 1.00

01:01:07.000 The dumbest. 0.99

01:01:08.000 Flying rods. 1.00

01:01:11.000 Just the moths.

01:01:12.000 Yeah.

01:01:13.000 It's just a visual artifact of cameras where the video cameras, they catch these things moving fast, close up, and it leaves a trail.

01:01:24.000 And so there was this famous group of people that thought that there was these things that were flying around faster than we can see and that they were some sort of aliens that were amongst us.

01:01:35.000 That's orbs and ghost hunting to me.

01:01:39.000 Ghost is an interesting one.

01:01:42.000 What do you think about ghosts?

01:01:47.000 I would be very surprised.

01:01:49.000 I don't know.

01:01:50.000 It's a tough one.

01:01:51.000 You know what I think?

01:01:51.000 What do you think?

01:01:53.000 You hear them from every culture.

01:01:55.000 That's what gives me pause.

01:01:57.000 This is not something that's only with Europeans and Christians and people that have a specific religious ideology.

01:02:04.000 This seems to be in almost every culture.

01:02:08.000 There's this concept of dead people that return in some sort of a mysterious form.

01:02:16.000 I mean, it would be silly for a Bigfoot person to say this, but that could be part of the human condition.

01:02:23.000 Certainly.

01:02:24.000 Just no one wants to think that this is the end.

01:02:26.000 And I don't think this is the end, but I do think ghosts are...

01:02:31.000 I mean, why wouldn't a ghost be like, hello?

01:02:33.000 Because I think it's a memory.

01:02:34.000 Sure.

01:02:35.000 I think when extreme things happen, you know, we're talking about the levels of reality being somewhat permeable under extreme situations.

01:02:45.000 What is more extreme than like a murder or a massacre?

01:02:49.000 And those are the places where people tend to see ghosts, these horrific, I think, I think the Earth has a memory.

01:02:57.000 And I think occasionally, under the right circumstances, with the right amount of anxiety, the right amount of distractions and the heightened sense that you get from being in the dark and being afraid, you can access these memories.

01:03:11.000 That's what I believe.

01:03:12.000 Yeah, I see.

01:03:14.000 But I mean, the opposite argument to that is pretty obvious.

01:03:17.000 It's like just because your anxiety is up and because all those factors and because you know what's happened there, you're more jumpy.

01:03:24.000 For sure.

01:03:24.000 And you see things that aren't there.

01:03:26.000 Right.

01:03:26.000 But if you see something that's not there, does it really mean it's not there?

01:03:30.000 It doesn't necessarily, right?

01:03:31.000 No.

01:03:32.000 I've always thought that.

01:03:33.000 Because it's like, if I say I saw a ghost and I actually didn't see it, but in my brain I did, isn't that seeing a ghost?

01:03:39.000 Right.

01:03:40.000 Right.

01:03:41.000 That's the argument that a lot of people have in terms of psychedelics.

01:03:44.000 Like, psychedelics, you contact God and you have this extreme...

01:03:59.000 Right.

01:04:00.000 Right.

01:04:12.000 But whatever that figment of your imagination creates it creates the exact same experience as if you encountered some other extremely Potent life form that exists in some strange some strange form that it's not tangible It's not like it doesn't doesn't register with you as something that it's not a normal it's not like a mug of water You know, 0.91

01:04:40.000 it's a thing that doesn't exist in your reality and it's communicating with you It's exactly the same experience as if it's an imaginary thing or if it's a real thing.

01:04:50.000 The experience is the same.

01:04:52.000 I think that's what happens with people with the ghost thing.

01:04:56.000 There's too many stories.

01:04:58.000 There's too many stories of ghosts from rational people.

01:05:00.000 And one of the places that has a crazy history of ghosts is the Comedy Store.

01:05:05.000 I used to try to see ghosts at the Comedy Store.

01:05:09.000 I would stay there late at night when everyone was gone.

01:05:11.000 I'd like sit in the main room and just hope that a ghost would show up.

01:05:13.000 Nothing ever did.

01:05:14.000 But maybe it was I was too needy.

01:05:16.000 Maybe I was too try-hard.

01:05:19.000 There's something about...

01:05:21.000 Like, that club itself was Ciro's nightclub.

01:05:24.000 So that club was owned by Bugsy Siegel in the gangster era of Los Angeles.

01:05:30.000 And for sure, people were murdered there. 0.99

01:05:32.000 Like, for fucking sure. 0.99

01:05:34.000 I mean, those guys were killing people left and right. 0.98

01:05:36.000 And if there's ever going to be a place where you're going to see...

01:05:40.000 The memory of some horrific experience that expresses itself in some sort of a spiritual form, some sort of a ghost-like wraith-type form, that's the place.

01:05:52.000 And you didn't see anything?

01:05:53.000 I didn't, but many people I know have.

01:05:56.000 Many people I know have seen people walk through doors and they go into it and it's in an empty room. 0.99

01:06:00.000 Like, who's that fucking guy? 0.91

01:06:02.000 And they'll see it, like, at the end of a dark hallway, and then they open the door to the room, and the room's completely empty. 1.00

01:06:07.000 Yeah.

01:06:08.000 Yeah, there's been a bunch of stories.

01:06:10.000 A bunch of stories at the Comedy Store from really, like, reputable people.

01:06:14.000 People that I know that aren't drunks, normal folks. 0.98

01:06:18.000 And they tell you, and they look fucking terrified. 0.96

01:06:20.000 And no one wants to believe them. 0.98

01:06:23.000 There's a guy named Carl LeBeau.

01:06:26.000 Carl LeBeau was a great comic who used to tour around with Sam Kinison.

01:06:31.000 He got kicked out of his house.

01:06:34.000 I guess he was staying with his girlfriend.

01:06:37.000 He was trying to make it as a comic.

01:06:40.000 Comics, in the beginning, they make no money.

01:06:43.000 A lot of them sleep in their cars.

01:06:44.000 My friend Tony slept in his car.

01:06:46.000 They have a dream.

01:06:48.000 It's a lot like YouTubing.

01:06:50.000 It is, except YouTubing has a more direct path to success.

01:06:56.000 With YouTube, all you have to do is be – you have this platform that is like the biggest video platform on earth, and it's available to everybody. 0.94

01:07:06.000 As much as people complain about YouTube, I think YouTube is fucking amazing. 0.92

01:07:09.000 I agree. 0.94

01:07:10.000 And I think the real problems with YouTube is advertiser revenue and managing at scale.

01:07:15.000 And then, woke, ideological crackheads that are running the helm, which is real, too.

01:07:21.000 People are banning people for specific content that's completely legal.

01:07:26.000 But outside of that, you have a path.

01:07:29.000 If you get a video, like your video, you're here because I saw your crocodile video, and then bam, I'm like, I want to talk to that guy.

01:07:35.000 Why are you doing that, you know?

01:07:36.000 I can't believe that's the video that you saw.

01:07:38.000 Oh, yeah, man.

01:07:39.000 That's how you get me, folks.

01:07:40.000 Get me with a giant reptile video.

01:07:43.000 There was no 50-foot crocodile.

01:07:44.000 You don't think so?

01:07:45.000 No.

01:07:46.000 Do you?

01:07:47.000 Yeah.

01:07:47.000 Oh, real?

01:07:48.000 Yeah, I do.

01:07:49.000 Yeah.

01:07:50.000 Head transplant has been successfully done on a monkey.

01:07:53.000 Maverick neurosurgery.

01:07:54.000 Oh, this is a head transplant.

01:07:55.000 Yeah, I've heard of that.

01:07:56.000 So yeah, it wasn't a brain.

01:07:58.000 I went back to the Monster Quest episode.

01:08:01.000 The one about the Soviet Union?

01:08:03.000 Yeah, they were talking about a supposedly successful test where they transplanted a head from a monkey onto another monkey.

01:08:11.000 And it, according to the doctor, regained consciousness.

01:08:14.000 So they said it was a success.

01:08:16.000 It died nine days later and it was paralyzed the whole time.

01:08:20.000 Yeah, it has to be paralyzed, right?

01:08:22.000 Because you can't reattach the spinal cord yet.

01:08:24.000 Oh, that's cruel.

01:08:25.000 They had this one.

01:08:26.000 Oh, super cruel.

01:08:27.000 This one, which is, they're saying, successful, happened somewhere else, and they killed it 20 hours later, but they said it...

01:08:34.000 I mean, look at the picture.

01:08:35.000 It's crazy.

01:08:37.000 This guy also, I found another picture.

01:08:39.000 He put a mouse head on the back of a rat, and I think it was staying...

01:08:45.000 He's trying to figure out how to do head transplants, and he's testing it on all sorts of other stuff.

01:08:51.000 Yo. 0.65

01:08:52.000 Crazy.

01:08:52.000 Jurassic Park comes to mind.

01:08:54.000 Yeah.

01:08:55.000 Oh yeah.

01:08:55.000 Just because we can, should we?

01:08:57.000 I mean, think about, like, then there will be a black market for, like, bodybuilders.

01:09:03.000 Like, if I was some rich guy, I would pay money to, like, have my head put onto a nice body.

01:09:08.000 Right, to kidnap a bodybuilder, snatch up his body.

01:09:11.000 I mean, I wouldn't, but you know what I'm saying.

01:09:12.000 Right, but if you like Bill Gates, I'm tired of being a pregnant man.

01:09:15.000 I want to get a body of some super jacked fitness influencer on Instagram. 1.00

01:09:22.000 Or what if it was like a closet full of clothes, only bodies, and it's like, what do I want to do today?

01:09:27.000 Right.

01:09:28.000 Well, one day, that's probably going to be the reality when they have synthetic bodies.

01:09:35.000 The idea that we can't create a synthetic body to me seems kind of silly because we've already created bladders.

01:09:41.000 They've used stem cells to recreate a woman's bladder. 1.00

01:09:44.000 Ooh.

01:09:44.000 Yeah, they took her own stem cells from her skin and constructed a bladder for her and then installed it inside of her body.

01:09:51.000 Okay.

01:09:51.000 I think she had bladder cancer or something like that.

01:09:53.000 They had to remove her bladder, so they built her a bladder. 1.00

01:09:56.000 That's nice.

01:09:57.000 Yeah, pretty sweet, right?

01:09:59.000 It's also your own stem cells, so your body's not going to reject it.

01:10:02.000 And, you know, they're looking at animals that regenerate, like there's certain reptiles that, you know, amphibians, they chop their legs off, they grow new legs, lobsters, a lot of animals do that.

01:10:14.000 And so they're trying to figure out, like, what is that gene?

01:10:18.000 And how can we switch that on in people? 0.97

01:10:21.000 So, like, people that have had their legs amputated grow their legs back, which is fucking crazy. 0.98

01:10:26.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:10:27.000 I think that's coming.

01:10:28.000 They were about to do it to a guy in Russia, but he backed out after he got married and had a kid.

01:10:34.000 Oh.

01:10:35.000 Good for him.

01:10:36.000 They apparently had done it to corpses successfully, they say.

01:10:41.000 Corpses.

01:10:41.000 And this guy was down to do it.

01:10:44.000 Well, makes sense.

01:10:45.000 I mean, even though he's paralyzed.

01:10:47.000 He has another option.

01:10:49.000 You know, with Neuralink and a lot of these new technologies, they think that they're going to be able to send signals to your limbs and allow your limbs to bypass the severed spinal cord.

01:10:59.000 Sure.

01:11:00.000 Which is...

01:11:00.000 That's amazing.

01:11:01.000 All of it's crazy.

01:11:02.000 Yeah.

01:11:02.000 But when you talk about Jurassic Park, are you aware of the Mammoth Project?

01:11:08.000 Yeah.

01:11:09.000 Did they manage to get the DNA? Yes.

01:11:14.000 Okay.

01:11:15.000 They're growing a mammoth.

01:11:16.000 Like, it's actually happening.

01:11:18.000 And when it does happen, we're gonna...

01:11:20.000 Oh, is this the Japanese one? 1.00

01:11:21.000 We're gonna figure out a way to visit it.

01:11:22.000 No, these are American people.

01:11:23.000 Oh, okay.

01:11:24.000 I believe so.

01:11:24.000 I haven't met the guys yet.

01:11:26.000 I don't know their nationality, I'm assuming.

01:11:28.000 But they're out of Dallas, right?

01:11:29.000 Oh.

01:11:32.000 I think the thing was in New York.

01:11:34.000 Whatever.

01:11:36.000 Whatever they're doing, they're gonna bring back a mammoth.

01:11:38.000 That's cool.

01:11:39.000 It's wild.

01:11:40.000 I would love to see a mammoth.

01:11:42.000 But how far do you go with that?

01:11:44.000 Do you bring back a saber-toothed cat? 1.00

01:11:47.000 What about an American lion, which was big as a fucking horse? 1.00

01:11:52.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:11:52.000 North American lion, a lot of people don't know, was larger than the lions that are in Africa. 0.99

01:11:57.000 Yeah, they're two-thirds larger.

01:11:59.000 Crazy!

01:12:00.000 Yeah, that's...

01:12:01.000 And that was right here.

01:12:04.000 Yeah, that was right here.

01:12:05.000 I don't know if you know this, but I did a video on the lions of Savo.

01:12:12.000 Oh, I haven't seen that.

01:12:13.000 Yeah.

01:12:14.000 And then that's the video that – the first video of mine that ever got traction of any kind.

01:12:18.000 That's the Ghost in the Darkness story.

01:12:20.000 Yeah, Ghost and the Darkness.

01:12:22.000 I thought it was Ghosts in the Darkness for the last time.

01:12:25.000 It's not.

01:12:26.000 But then I did a second video where the lions were so badass that they died and went to hell.

01:12:31.000 And were really nasty in hell and got kicked out of hell and were plopped out in dinosaur times. 0.65

01:12:37.000 Oh.

01:12:38.000 And then the video's about the lions of Tsavo fighting a pack of Deinonychus.

01:12:43.000 Ha! 0.89

01:12:44.000 Yeah, and the lions lost.

01:12:46.000 But in reality, I think lions would beat a bunch of Deinonychus.

01:12:50.000 Who knows?

01:12:51.000 You know, but...

01:12:54.000 I mean, that sounds like something the Romans probably would have put together when they were doing those Colosseum fights. 0.79

01:13:00.000 No.

01:13:01.000 But what this speaks to is what we were talking about earlier.

01:13:04.000 Like that...

01:13:06.000 What happened to create human beings?

01:13:09.000 And what would we do if we could do those things?

01:13:12.000 Well, we're showing what we would do.

01:13:14.000 We're taking people's heads off, putting them in other bodies. 1.00

01:13:16.000 We're taking monkeys' heads off. 0.99

01:13:18.000 We're putting a rat's head on the back of a mouse.

01:13:20.000 Like, we're doing all kinds of bizarre experiments.

01:13:23.000 And if they knew how to do it, instead of like, we're kind of at the rudimentary stages of this kind of stuff...

01:13:30.000 If they knew how to successfully implant their genetic material and hyper-advance a lower primate and make it, in a short period of time, much smarter than any other primate on Earth, which is what we are, we're so different than everything else that's remotely related to us.

01:13:48.000 The idea that somehow or another we exist in this form and our ancient ancestors exist in the same form.

01:13:58.000 Like, the really ancient ancestors, we branched off of a...

01:14:02.000 We're like a cousin of a chimpanzee.

01:14:04.000 Yeah.

01:14:05.000 And we share a lot of their traits.

01:14:07.000 They never found our chimpanzee-level ancestor.

01:14:11.000 Right. 1.00

01:14:12.000 Because it's on a fucking spaceship somewhere, bro. 1.00

01:14:15.000 Would that be surprising? 1.00

01:14:17.000 No.

01:14:18.000 It would be, sure.

01:14:20.000 Yeah, it'd be crazy.

01:14:21.000 I wouldn't be surprised by that at all.

01:14:22.000 I wouldn't be like, I can't believe this.

01:14:25.000 I wouldn't say that.

01:14:26.000 I would say, wow.

01:14:28.000 So that's what it was.

01:14:30.000 So that's why we're so different.

01:14:32.000 Well, I was having a conversation with a woman yesterday, Sarah Amari Walker, who is a scientist, a physicist, and she was talking about this thing called assembly theory.

01:14:46.000 And what she was talking about...

01:14:50.000 Did I say her last name right?

01:14:52.000 What she was talking about was like, what are the actual steps that are necessary in order for life to be created and evolve?

01:15:02.000 And if you think about human beings, we're the one animal on this planet that seems to have the same sort of impact as invasive species do.

01:15:13.000 Sure. 0.92

01:15:14.000 We swarmed the whole planet, we're fucking up everything, and there's no answer to us. 0.78

01:15:19.000 Ah, see, but do you think humanity is something that needs an answer? 0.91

01:15:23.000 Well, there's no answer to us naturally, right?

01:15:25.000 Like, there's nothing that keeps our population in check, other than disease.

01:15:29.000 No, normal population control.

01:15:31.000 Like, so, while the left is talking about, you know, humanity, population going out of control, like, our population's crashing.

01:15:40.000 Sure.

01:15:41.000 What is it?

01:15:42.000 Asia crashed, Europe and America are crashing now, India's next to crash, and Africa's the only one left to boom. 0.98

01:15:49.000 Right.

01:15:49.000 In terms of Japan, the children that are alive today, how many of them will ever have grandchildren?

01:15:55.000 It's a very small percentage.

01:15:56.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:15:58.000 Elon talks about that all the time.

01:15:59.000 You need to have more kids. 0.98

01:16:01.000 You can look at the charts.

01:16:02.000 It's very clear.

01:16:04.000 Right.

01:16:05.000 But don't you think – so this is nature's balancing act, right?

01:16:09.000 It has to happen.

01:16:10.000 It's not a matter of like it's going to.

01:16:13.000 Those are the rules.

01:16:15.000 Right.

01:16:15.000 I think nature probably balanced us out when we developed cities, right?

01:16:21.000 Because what's the byproduct of cities?

01:16:23.000 One of the byproducts of cities is it's expensive to live there, so a lot of times women get jobs. 1.00

01:16:31.000 And women don't want to give up their career to have a family, so they hold it off until much later. 1.00

01:16:37.000 And if they have a child at all, they have less kids than people who start having kids when they're 18 or 20. Right. 0.88

01:16:43.000 And so this is sort of a function of having these extremely dense environments where people are stacked up with each other and then competition inside that city-like structure is intense and financial competition is intense and women engage in it as well and it lowers the population.

01:17:04.000 That happens to almost all westernized societies, first world societies, they experience a drop in birth rate.

01:17:12.000 Right.

01:17:12.000 And it seems like that would be a natural feature of, like, high population areas.

01:17:18.000 Because it doesn't even matter what it is.

01:17:20.000 Like, for a deer, it's just the availability of grass.

01:17:24.000 Right.

01:17:24.000 You know?

01:17:25.000 So I find it fascinating to think that humans are not...

01:17:28.000 We're very different from animals, but the rules still apply to us.

01:17:33.000 Right.

01:17:33.000 You know?

01:17:34.000 But we are animals, for sure.

01:17:35.000 Yeah.

01:17:35.000 But we also are invasive.

01:17:37.000 Right.

01:17:38.000 If a wild pig is invasive anywhere on Earth, then we're invasive.

01:17:42.000 Because we weren't there, and then we were there, and then we took over.

01:17:45.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:17:47.000 And we're so different than every other animal in how much different we look from each other, the wide variety of sizes we have of people.

01:17:58.000 You know, it's just—it seems to me like— I've thought about that before, though.

01:18:03.000 Like, what if seven gorillas that look exactly the same to us are all, like, hyper—like, what if—yeah, like, they might all look really differentiated to themselves.

01:18:13.000 I doubt it.

01:18:14.000 They look like gorillas. 0.51

01:18:15.000 I mean, just, like, look at what we see.

01:18:17.000 We see a gorilla, but when you look at human beings, we're like dogs.

01:18:21.000 Yeah.

01:18:21.000 We vary, like, there's Carl over there, and then there's my dog Marshall.

01:18:26.000 Marshall's a golden retriever.

01:18:27.000 Marshall, if Carl was a girl, or if Marshall was a girl, they could have a baby.

01:18:33.000 Those two, sort of.

01:18:35.000 Like, can he breed with someone?

01:18:38.000 We can find out. 1.00

01:18:40.000 He tries to fuck Marshall. 1.00

01:18:41.000 We can test it. 1.00

01:18:42.000 He tries. 0.98

01:18:43.000 If Marshall was a girl, he'd try to hump him. 1.00

01:18:46.000 Marshall just gives up sometimes and Carl's just biting on his face while he's lying on his back. 0.99

01:18:51.000 He just gets tired of this little psychopath. 0.87

01:18:54.000 But the point is, like, they're the same species. 0.97

01:18:57.000 They're just a weird breed of that species.

01:19:01.000 But they are the same thing.

01:19:02.000 Like, you could take a wolf and you could breed it with a dog.

01:19:05.000 You know, they all started off as wolves.

01:19:08.000 And we manipulated them to the point where we have this incredible variety of shapes and sizes through manipulation.

01:19:14.000 Sure.

01:19:15.000 And that's what people look like.

01:19:17.000 I mean, that manipulation could be environmental, like the reason why people that move to Northern Europe develop very pale skin because their body has to act as sort of like a solar reflector to create vitamin D because you don't get it like the way you would get it in Africa where we originally started.

01:19:35.000 So we're kind of like a manipulated animal in that regard, at least our appearance. 0.96

01:19:43.000 But that would make sense if somebody fucked with us. 0.97

01:19:45.000 Especially if they made a bunch of different kinds. 0.99

01:19:47.000 Right.

01:19:47.000 You know?

01:19:48.000 You know, like initially, like the thought is the fun stuff is the Anunnaki, right? 1.00

01:19:55.000 That's the fun one.

01:19:56.000 Sure.

01:19:57.000 The Anunnaki came here and they manipulated with humans. 1.00

01:19:59.000 Then you look at the Sumerian tablets and you see the images of the giant Anunnaki guy who has the monkey person sitting on his lap with the tail. 0.99

01:20:08.000 Have you ever seen that one?

01:20:09.000 You never saw that?

01:20:10.000 No.

01:20:10.000 Dude.

01:20:11.000 It's like a 5,000-year-old tablet of this guy who is this enormous person with this beautiful garb on, and he's got this person sitting on his lap, this small person with a tail.

01:20:27.000 What?

01:20:28.000 Yeah.

01:20:28.000 Oh my goodness.

01:20:29.000 Oh, dude, have you studied any of the ancient Sumerian tablets at all?

01:20:35.000 Honestly, that stuff, I'm like saving that for a rainy day.

01:20:39.000 Get into it.

01:20:39.000 Yeah.

01:20:40.000 Get into it, because the whole Zachariah Sitchin version of the Sumerian text is really, really interesting stuff.

01:20:48.000 Is that like...

01:20:50.000 No, that wouldn't be where the Nephilim come in.

01:21:08.000 According to the Sumerian text as translated by Zechariah Sitchin.

01:21:13.000 Okay.

01:21:13.000 And this is why the symbol for medicine was always that...

01:21:19.000 Serpent? 0.55

01:21:19.000 Yeah, the two serpents, right? 0.55

01:21:22.000 That looks like a double helix DNA. That's exactly what it looks like.

01:21:26.000 And that's the connection that he makes with all this stuff.

01:21:30.000 And a lot of people disagree with him.

01:21:31.000 I should just point out, if you're interested in this stuff, There's a whole website called SitchinIsWrong.com and I've read that too.

01:21:39.000 And I appreciate when people have varying opinions, right?

01:21:43.000 But there's something about Sitchin's stuff that is very compelling to me and one of the big reasons is there's a lot of mysteries about the understanding that the Sumerians had that sort of defies conventional logic.

01:22:00.000 Like they had a detailed map of the solar system In, you know, 6,000 years ago in these clay tablets.

01:22:07.000 So they have the sun in the center and then they have all of our planets in the proper order.

01:22:12.000 In the proper, not the exact size, but this one's bigger than that one, that one's bigger than this one, and it's depicted on a clay tablet. 0.98

01:22:19.000 And you look at it and you go, okay, what the fuck is that?

01:22:21.000 But would you really need... 0.99

01:22:23.000 Well...

01:22:24.000 Yeah, you would.

01:22:25.000 Oh, you would?

01:22:26.000 Yeah.

01:22:26.000 You need a telescope.

01:22:28.000 There's no other way.

01:22:29.000 Like, there's no way with the human eye you're gonna see Uranus.

01:22:32.000 You don't see it.

01:22:33.000 There's no way you see Pluto.

01:22:34.000 You don't see them.

01:22:35.000 I mean, they...

01:22:36.000 Okay.

01:22:36.000 You're not gonna see it.

01:22:37.000 They saw it.

01:22:41.000 Find the monkey one first.

01:22:44.000 Did you find it?

01:22:45.000 I'm not exactly sure what I was looking for for that one.

01:22:50.000 Sumerian tablet Anunnaki with monkey person on his lap.

01:22:56.000 I wasn't getting what I thought you wanted.

01:23:00.000 Well, I know you can find the solar system one, so find that one quick.

01:23:04.000 Just so I could show it to them.

01:23:05.000 So this is a giant mystery as to what this meant and how they knew this.

01:23:11.000 So this is like in between two photos of these Anunnaki or two images of these Anunnaki's.

01:23:17.000 So it has the Sun and it has all of our planets.

01:23:21.000 And it has all of our planets, not in the correct size, obviously, because Jupiter is so much larger than Earth.

01:23:28.000 But this one's bigger than that one, that one's bigger than this one.

01:23:32.000 It's like a visual representation as much as you can in a small area like that.

01:23:41.000 But some of their tablets were just absolutely fascinating.

01:23:48.000 No, but how cool is that though?

01:23:49.000 I know.

01:23:50.000 So these people were writing about the story of humanity, and they're writing it down on these clay tablets, and it seems to be some bizarre story of visitors.

01:24:07.000 A lot of them have wings like that one that shows the eagle.

01:24:10.000 Sure.

01:24:11.000 Like, what's that all about? 0.99

01:24:12.000 Who's that fucking guy? 0.99

01:24:14.000 Ra, I think. 1.00

01:24:15.000 Yeah.

01:24:16.000 But also, wouldn't that represent some sort of a spaceship, like something that can actually fly?

01:24:21.000 If you—the only thing that you saw that could fly were birds, and you were trying to represent something as something that flies, you would, you know— Yeah, didn't in the Bible, the Jewish Bible, the Talmud cloud get translated to—oh,

01:24:38.000 no, what was it?

01:24:39.000 The shield got translated to cloud with the pillar of fire.

01:24:45.000 I believe.

01:24:46.000 That led the Israelites out of the desert. 0.96

01:24:48.000 Wasn't it something like that?

01:24:50.000 Oh, no, but that makes sense.

01:24:52.000 I said I wasn't going to talk about anything that I wasn't sure about.

01:24:55.000 No, that's what this show's all about.

01:24:57.000 Yeah, just being full of it.

01:24:58.000 I could have sworn that it was like, in the Bible it says, the pillar of fire and a cloud, and that's what the Israelites followed out of the desert. 0.75

01:25:08.000 It could be.

01:25:09.000 I've read that the more pragmatic translation is actually shield, and it wasn't cloud.

01:25:15.000 Huh.

01:25:16.000 Here it is.

01:25:17.000 The pillars are said to have guided the Israelites through the desert during the exodus from Egypt.

01:25:21.000 The pillar of cloud provided a visible guide for the Israelites during the day, while the pillar of fire lit their way by night.

01:25:28.000 Yeah, so evidently it wasn't a cloud but a shield.

01:25:33.000 And what would a shield look like?

01:25:35.000 We would call that a saucer.

01:25:38.000 Right.

01:25:39.000 Huh.

01:25:40.000 Well, then there's the Ezekiel story in the Bible, which seems very much like some sort of a UFO encounter, like the way you would describe a UFO encounter if there's nothing that flew and you didn't understand what advanced technology would be if you saw it.

01:25:55.000 The Vimanas and the ancient Hindu texts.

01:25:59.000 I mean, there's just so many...

01:26:00.000 There's so much of it.

01:26:00.000 Yeah, there's so much of that stuff.

01:26:02.000 And again, if...

01:26:05.000 Life is out there everywhere in the universe.

01:26:09.000 It kind of makes sense that someone would visit us as we're emerging, as life is becoming more and more intelligent over the course of millions and millions of years.

01:26:20.000 And they find this one particular animal that's very similar to what they used to be at one point in time.

01:26:26.000 And they just say, let's speed this along.

01:26:29.000 I think we would do that.

01:26:30.000 I know we would.

01:26:32.000 If we found a planet filled with monkeys, you don't think we'd take a few of them and shoot our stuff into it?

01:26:37.000 Let's see.

01:26:38.000 It'll be fun.

01:26:39.000 It might also be a feature of the universe that that's what intelligent life ultimately does, which is why we want to monkey around with these monkeys in the first place and take their heads and put it on other bodies.

01:26:49.000 Yeah.

01:26:50.000 So I think that different planets, in order to meet the requirements of life, would actually be quite similar.

01:26:57.000 That's just a theory I have.

01:27:00.000 It's a common theory.

01:27:02.000 Well, yeah.

01:27:03.000 So people say, like, why are aliens carbon life forms?

01:27:06.000 Well, that's what works.

01:27:07.000 Right, right.

01:27:08.000 Because they could be anything.

01:27:09.000 Not only that, that's ubiquitous, right?

01:27:11.000 Right.

01:27:12.000 Like, bursting stars create carbon.

01:27:15.000 This is...

01:27:17.000 Carbon-based life exists here.

01:27:19.000 Why wouldn't it exist everywhere else where there's stars everywhere else?

01:27:22.000 Right.

01:27:22.000 It seems to be that, like, the...

01:27:26.000 We don't find solar systems that have something completely different than a planet.

01:27:30.000 Everything that we found outside of our solar system seems to behave in a similar manner.

01:27:35.000 We look at galaxies, they seem to behave in a similar manner.

01:27:38.000 They seem to look similar.

01:27:39.000 They're of different sizes and the like, but they're pretty similar.

01:27:44.000 They're these circular spiral things.

01:27:46.000 It makes sense that If that exists everywhere, probably carbon-based life exists everywhere, too.

01:27:53.000 It's probably a feature of these solar systems.

01:27:56.000 Correct.

01:27:57.000 That's what I would say, too.

01:27:58.000 Yeah.

01:27:58.000 And then there's probably, like, if you are growing a garden in your backyard, you know when you planted the tomatoes.

01:28:05.000 You got, like, a little thing on it, 722 planted tomatoes, you know?

01:28:09.000 No.

01:28:09.000 So then you check on them.

01:28:10.000 And then other tomatoes you planted like a couple of weeks later, like, oh, those won't be doing time. 0.93

01:28:15.000 So if you were planting humans on a planet, you'd go, well, they need a couple million years before they get their shit together, but they've started to develop nuclear bombs.

01:28:23.000 That's why they hang out over nuke bases. 0.92

01:28:27.000 Yeah.

01:28:28.000 Or they're foreign governments showing us that they have advanced technology and they can hover over our nuclear bases.

01:28:35.000 I think there's some of that going on, too.

01:28:37.000 Yeah, but there's so many...

01:28:38.000 Like, that fellow who...

01:28:40.000 I can't recall his name, but he's like the most popular video on Greer's channel.

01:28:48.000 Richard Greer?

01:28:49.000 Stephen Greer?

01:28:50.000 Stephen Greer.

01:28:50.000 Yeah.

01:28:52.000 He was like...

01:29:00.000 I think?

01:29:16.000 So he studied...

01:29:17.000 He worked for Project Blue Book for a couple decades and was sent out to like, oh, we saw this, and he would go, ah, swamp gas.

01:29:26.000 And then after his career was over, then he came public with everything.

01:29:31.000 So he's saying, I think UFOs are real.

01:29:32.000 I think we really are being visited.

01:29:35.000 J. Allen Hynek.

01:29:37.000 What did I say?

01:29:38.000 Hopkins.

01:29:39.000 Oh, different.

01:29:40.000 J. Allen Hynek.

01:29:40.000 I was not thinking of Hynek.

01:29:43.000 This guy was like a...

01:29:45.000 Self-admitted deep state stooge.

01:29:47.000 He was the type of guy that would go out and discredit you if you saw something.

01:29:51.000 Oh, he would discredit you personally?

01:29:52.000 Yes.

01:29:53.000 Okay. 1.00

01:29:54.000 So he would turn you into a fool. 1.00

01:29:55.000 Right. 0.99

01:29:56.000 So if you went to Stephen Greer's channel and looked at the most popular video on it, you would find it.

01:30:01.000 But he talks for like two hours about everything he knows, and it's nuts.

01:30:04.000 Absolutely bonkers.

01:30:05.000 Find that guy.

01:30:06.000 And I really believe him.

01:30:08.000 You believe him?

01:30:09.000 You want to believe him, right?

01:30:11.000 Yeah.

01:30:11.000 This stuff seems so much more likely than the alternative, which is nothing.

01:30:17.000 Oh, there's no life out there?

01:30:18.000 Yeah.

01:30:19.000 Because we don't even know what they are.

01:30:20.000 I mean, I'm not even saying they're extraterrestrial, really.

01:30:23.000 Not only that, but so much more likely that they would want to visit us.

01:30:27.000 I mean, yes.

01:30:29.000 Yeah.

01:30:29.000 So let's get back to the crocodile.

01:30:31.000 How come you don't believe?

01:30:32.000 Why would you believe?

01:30:34.000 I mean, a 50-foot crocodile?

01:30:36.000 Sure.

01:30:36.000 They just keep getting bigger.

01:30:37.000 They don't, though.

01:30:38.000 How big do they get?

01:30:40.000 I don't know crocodiles.

01:30:41.000 Right.

01:30:42.000 So here's the thing.

01:30:43.000 What we know about crocodiles now are crocodiles after guns.

01:30:48.000 Okay?

01:30:49.000 So guns change everything.

01:30:52.000 So that alligator out there that you saw in our lobby, that's 80 years old.

01:30:58.000 Yeah.

01:30:58.000 80 years old, and a gun killed that alligator.

01:31:02.000 So guns get introduced in the 1800s, and then explorers start going through the Congo in the 1800s, and they start shooting crocodiles.

01:31:12.000 They shoot a lot of crocodiles.

01:31:13.000 In fact, a friend of mine actually got hired to go to the Congo.

01:31:19.000 Was it the Congo?

01:31:20.000 Jim Shockey.

01:31:22.000 What part did he go to?

01:31:24.000 I forget.

01:31:25.000 But he went to Africa.

01:31:28.000 He's a hunter, and they hired him to shoot crocodiles.

01:31:32.000 Because so many people in this village, he went to this village, he said it was so heartbreaking.

01:31:35.000 Like, this guy's missing an arm, this person's missing a leg, they have bites taken out of him.

01:31:39.000 And while he was there, a woman got taken out.

01:31:42.000 Like, while he was there, a woman was washing clothes, and a crocodile snatched her and dragged her into the water.

01:31:48.000 And when human beings start bringing guns, The whole ecosystem changes, right?

01:31:54.000 So these 50-foot things that have been apex predators just sunning themselves on the shore.

01:31:59.000 Now some guy lines up a shot from the beach, or from a boat rather, and just takes it out.

01:32:05.000 And they're shooting all these different crocodiles.

01:32:07.000 And so doing this over the course of, you know, 50, 60 years, all the big ones are dead. 0.99

01:32:13.000 And it takes fucking forever. 0.97

01:32:17.000 For a crocodile become a 50-foot crocodile. 1.00

01:32:19.000 And they don't die.

01:32:21.000 They just stay alive.

01:32:22.000 They only die when something happens to them.

01:32:26.000 But there's one crocodile in a reserve in South Africa who was born in like 1890 or something.

01:32:32.000 And he's only like 17 feet long.

01:32:34.000 Right.

01:32:35.000 So you think that's because his environment wasn't big enough?

01:32:37.000 I think it's because he's born in 1890, not 1790. Oh.

01:32:41.000 They don't die.

01:32:42.000 Okay.

01:32:43.000 So if a crocodile is living in the Congo, okay, the Congo is rich with life.

01:32:48.000 There's life everywhere.

01:32:50.000 And certain animals have to cross these rivers. 0.99

01:32:53.000 And that's just a fucking meal train. 0.98

01:32:56.000 You know, you've seen those animals, wildebeest trying to make it across the river, and then the crocs show up and just start snatching them. 0.99

01:33:03.000 I mean, some of them make it through, and some of them die.

01:33:07.000 And that's just how it's always been.

01:33:09.000 And so they've had enormous amounts of food forever.

01:33:12.000 And if they've lived for hundreds and hundreds of years, those things would just continue to grow.

01:33:18.000 It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility for something to be twice as big as the biggest one that they've spotted.

01:33:26.000 Yeah, but that's long.

01:33:27.000 So, like, great white sharks, we're pretty sure that they get to 22 and a half feet, and then they get fatter.

01:33:34.000 Right.

01:33:35.000 So, 50 feet is really big.

01:33:38.000 Megalodons. 0.92

01:33:39.000 Yeah, but that's a different thing.

01:33:41.000 Right. 0.99

01:33:42.000 But it was also a giant fucking shark. 0.99

01:33:44.000 Yes. 0.99

01:33:45.000 I think...

01:33:47.000 It's possible there's certain subspecies of crocodiles.

01:33:50.000 Yeah.

01:33:51.000 Just like there is like caimans, like there's different subspecies of caimans even, or crocodiles rather, even in the Amazon.

01:33:58.000 There's big ones that get to be like 16 feet long and there's small ones that get killed by jaguars all the time.

01:34:05.000 Those are cool.

01:34:07.000 I think that Bigfoot is more likely to be real than a 50-foot crocodile.

01:34:11.000 So you think these people that have these depictions of it being as big or bigger than their boat, they're just exaggerating?

01:34:17.000 Yeah.

01:34:17.000 Yeah?

01:34:18.000 I do.

01:34:18.000 But not in a malicious or even a lying way.

01:34:21.000 Probably just freaked out by the size of the goddamn thing. 0.99

01:34:24.000 Not even freaked out, just like it was giant. 0.99

01:34:26.000 Right.

01:34:26.000 And then they exaggerate over time.

01:34:28.000 Like, it was probably 20-30 feet, maybe.

01:34:31.000 But like, twice as big, bigger, more than twice as big as the biggest ever is pretty nuts.

01:34:37.000 It is nuts, but occasionally animals do have mutations that makes them much larger.

01:34:43.000 And you see that with humans.

01:34:45.000 Like the biggest human ever was like nine feet tall, wasn't he?

01:34:48.000 But not twelve.

01:34:49.000 Right.

01:34:50.000 Right.

01:34:50.000 True.

01:34:51.000 Right.

01:34:51.000 Not double the size.

01:34:53.000 Right.

01:34:53.000 But he also was dealing with gravity.

01:34:56.000 Yes.

01:34:56.000 And like the real problems with being a gigantic human with all the bad bone problems.

01:35:03.000 What is that?

01:35:04.000 That's the world's oldest crocodile?

01:35:06.000 Yeah, Henry.

01:35:07.000 Jesus, how old's Henry?

01:35:08.000 They caught him in 1903. Jesus.

01:35:12.000 Caught him in 1903. How crazy is that?

01:35:16.000 They caught him over a hundred years ago.

01:35:19.000 When I was working on the video, I don't know why this occurred to me, but he was born roughly the same time as Adolf Hitler. 0.70

01:35:26.000 He's a man-eating croc? 0.80

01:35:27.000 Yeah, he killed a lot of people. 0.99

01:35:28.000 Nile croc, yeah.

01:35:29.000 So this guy's just hanging out with him? 0.99

01:35:31.000 What the fuck is wrong with this dude? 0.98

01:35:34.000 He's just assuming that that thing's not hungry? 1.00

01:35:36.000 How crazy are people that we want to sit right next to a goddamn giant monster like that? 0.99

01:35:42.000 Look at the size of that thing! 1.00

01:35:45.000 I just can't imagine why anybody would stand next to that.

01:35:48.000 Can't you stand really far away and just film it?

01:35:51.000 That's how I feel about surfing.

01:35:53.000 700 kilos.

01:35:54.000 That puts it at 1,500 pounds or so.

01:35:55.000 1,400, 1,500.

01:35:57.000 They're so cool, too.

01:35:58.000 Look at that face.

01:36:00.000 The way all the teeth integrate with the gums.

01:36:03.000 And when you know that this thing...

01:36:04.000 So it's captured in 1903. When was it born, right?

01:36:08.000 I think it was about 15 years old when they captured him.

01:36:13.000 That is so crazy.

01:36:15.000 So this thing's somewhere around 135 years old.

01:36:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:36:21.000 This guy's just grabbing its dick. 1.00

01:36:23.000 Look at it. 1.00

01:36:23.000 He's like, hey, bro. 1.00

01:36:25.000 To compare, that giant croc that always pops up on a golf course in Florida is known to be about 10 to 12 feet and 1,000 pounds.

01:36:33.000 Yeah, that's an alligator.

01:36:34.000 I know.

01:36:34.000 It's like 15 plus feet and 1,500 pounds.

01:36:37.000 Like I said, the one that's out there is 14 feet.

01:36:40.000 Yeah, I was really surprised to learn how much smaller, even when the length is similar, how much less heavy alligators are.

01:36:46.000 Oh yeah, they're twice as heavy.

01:36:47.000 Yeah, crocodiles, rather, are twice as heavy.

01:36:50.000 They are so dense and they're so aggressive.

01:36:52.000 Have you ever seen when they have, yeah, it turns towards them.

01:36:56.000 Like, that guy could just get taken out.

01:36:57.000 I like that.

01:36:58.000 But they drown.

01:37:00.000 That's how crocodiles kill. 1.00

01:37:01.000 Because they get too big, right?

01:37:02.000 No, I'm saying...

01:37:03.000 Oh, how they kill people.

01:37:04.000 Yeah.

01:37:04.000 So like a crocodile like that, if he couldn't drag you to water.

01:37:07.000 Isn't that nuts that their actual method is drowning?

01:37:12.000 Yeah.

01:37:12.000 Well, they can hold their breath forever.

01:37:14.000 Right.

01:37:14.000 So they're just like, I know you can't.

01:37:16.000 Right, because their teeth are just meant for holding.

01:37:18.000 Their teeth aren't meant for chomping or anything.

01:37:21.000 Have you seen the one where the crocodile takes a pig and snaps it in half with a shake of his leg and chokes down the leg?

01:37:29.000 No.

01:37:30.000 Have you seen the one where the crocodile just rolls and rips its friend's leg off for no reason?

01:37:35.000 Yes, and the friend doesn't even flinch.

01:37:36.000 It's just like... 1.00

01:37:37.000 What the fuck, dude? 1.00

01:37:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:37:38.000 Yeah, the lady was feeding them, right? 1.00

01:37:40.000 And he just...

01:37:42.000 What do you got here, Jeremy?

01:37:42.000 Oh yeah, here it is.

01:37:44.000 Look at that.

01:37:44.000 Oh my gosh.

01:37:46.000 It just snaps that pig in half. 1.00

01:37:47.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:37:48.000 With a quick little fling of its neck.

01:37:50.000 Sure did.

01:37:51.000 Oh, that's my own Instagram.

01:37:53.000 Watch this.

01:37:54.000 Snap.

01:37:55.000 Like it was nothing.

01:37:57.000 No.

01:37:57.000 Just wanted a bite-sized chunk.

01:37:58.000 No big deal.

01:37:59.000 Just an animal that's been around for how many millions of years?

01:38:02.000 I know he's strayed, but this is the guy you're talking about.

01:38:05.000 Richard Doty.

01:38:06.000 Okay.

01:38:07.000 Spread disinformation about UFOs on behalf of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations.

01:38:12.000 So that's the guy.

01:38:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:14.000 So his job was to make you look like an idiot if you believe in UFOs. 1.00

01:38:17.000 Now, why do you think they would do that? 1.00

01:38:20.000 To discredit people.

01:38:21.000 But why?

01:38:21.000 Why would they want to discredit people?

01:38:26.000 Man, you are...

01:38:27.000 I don't know.

01:38:29.000 I guess to keep their secrets.

01:38:33.000 What secrets?

01:38:34.000 Alright, then keep your secrets.

01:38:36.000 So you think that they know something about UFOs.

01:38:41.000 They don't want people to believe these things are real.

01:38:44.000 They want to discourage people coming forward.

01:38:46.000 So they mock them. 1.00

01:38:47.000 They turn them into fools. 1.00

01:38:50.000 This guy's job is to discredit all the stories and make the person look like a crazy person, gaslight everybody. 0.99

01:38:57.000 And it's because they don't want people to know what they know.

01:39:01.000 I would imagine that the truth is worse.

01:39:04.000 Well, yes, but because what they know is really, really bad.

01:39:08.000 What do you think they know?

01:39:10.000 Do you subscribe to the Babazar Vessels of Souls idea? 0.57

01:39:14.000 I'm unfamiliar with that.

01:39:16.000 Oh, you didn't know that one?

01:39:17.000 No, but I know Kathy Turner, a Dr. Kathy Turner, who wrote Taken into the Fringe and Masquerade of Angels, and she said the only thing that's consistent throughout all abduction reports is that the aliens are fascinated with the concept of the soul.

01:39:33.000 So I assume that works into whatever you're talking about with Bob Lazar.

01:39:36.000 Bob Lazar said one of the more bizarre things that he found out when he was working at Area S4 was that they had this very thick sort of document on all that they knew so far about aliens.

01:39:56.000 And one of the things was it went back to religion.

01:40:00.000 See if you can find Bob Lazar talking about it so I don't butcher this.

01:40:04.000 But I believe what he was saying was that they think of us as containers for souls.

01:40:10.000 Now let's imagine, before we show the Bob Lazar thing, let's imagine how that would happen.

01:40:15.000 Now let's imagine that human beings, we are biological life, and so therefore we have what we call a soul, and then we create digital life.

01:40:27.000 And maybe Maybe this digital life, maybe artificial creations are what we're seeing in these gray aliens. 0.92

01:40:37.000 Maybe they are some sort of hybrid or some sort of... 0.99

01:40:42.000 Some sort of creation that's outside of evolution, outside of natural adaptation.

01:40:49.000 And they look at us as the source, like they can't breed anymore.

01:40:57.000 Maybe for them to exist, maybe they need an actual soul.

01:41:04.000 And to think of us as a farm for souls.

01:41:08.000 I really do think that we're a farm of some kind to them.

01:41:11.000 Because it's funny because people always say, like, they hang out over nuke sites so that we don't bomb ourselves.

01:41:17.000 And it's like, sure, but not from a compassion standpoint.

01:41:22.000 It's like if the farmer doesn't Protect his cow because he wants it to find some sort of spiritual thing.

01:41:29.000 And that's why I take issue with like Stephen Greer and all those people who are like, you just need to expand your consciousness and then you see it.

01:41:35.000 It's like, that's a pretty...

01:41:37.000 I feel like that's what they want you to think.

01:41:41.000 Did you find the Bob Lazar thing?

01:41:42.000 Here, listen to him talk about this because it's pretty crazy.

01:41:46.000 Yeah, the only hardcore thing is that there is an extremely classified document dealing with religion and it's about that thing.

01:41:57.000 Yeah, the only hardcore thing is that there is an extremely classified document dealing with religion and it's about that second period.

01:42:06.000 But, why would there be any classified material dealing with religion?

01:42:11.000 I want to go back to the religion thing.

01:42:13.000 I want you to say it.

01:42:16.000 It's so far out.

01:42:19.000 Alright, your objection has been noted.

01:42:21.000 What does it say?

01:42:24.000 That we're containers.

01:42:25.000 That's how supposedly the aliens look at us.

01:42:29.000 That we are nothing but containers.

01:42:31.000 Containers of?

01:42:32.000 Containers.

01:42:34.000 Maybe containers of souls.

01:42:35.000 You can come up with whatever theory you want, but we're containers.

01:42:38.000 And that's how we're mentioned in the documents.

01:42:42.000 That religion was specifically created Yikes. 1.00

01:42:52.000 Yikes.

01:42:52.000 I didn't think of it that way.

01:42:54.000 Yeah.

01:42:55.000 That you can actually damage your soul.

01:42:56.000 Yeah.

01:42:57.000 But it is almost like every holy text has that.

01:42:59.000 Well, it does make sense, too, because if...

01:43:03.000 If what is in religion, right, the idea is like to save your soul.

01:43:07.000 You have to abide by certain rules.

01:43:10.000 You have to be good to each other.

01:43:12.000 You have to live a just life.

01:43:14.000 All of these things are laid out so you don't damage the energy that is inside you and turn it evil.

01:43:20.000 See, it could be more pragmatic than that, though.

01:43:22.000 If someone is going to inherit your soul, they don't want to bog down with bad habits.

01:43:26.000 Right.

01:43:27.000 Yeah, well, they don't want it to be evil.

01:43:28.000 They want it to have negative energy attached to it and the karma of killing a bunch of people.

01:43:32.000 Like, who wants Dick Cheney's soul?

01:43:34.000 You know?

01:43:35.000 The alien's like, you could have that, dude.

01:43:36.000 Remember when he shot someone and then the guy apologized to him?

01:43:40.000 Isn't that nuts?

01:43:40.000 You know how gangster that is?

01:43:41.000 Yeah. 0.90

01:43:42.000 You shoot a guy in the face and the dude's like, yeah, I look like a bird. 0.93

01:43:45.000 Don't worry about it. 0.99

01:43:46.000 I look like a dude.

01:43:48.000 Can you...

01:43:48.000 What is with...

01:43:49.000 Is there any way to you that we're not being gaslit, like, to hell by Kamala Harris?

01:43:57.000 In what way?

01:43:58.000 Like, wasn't she, like, a joke even among Democrats?

01:44:01.000 Uh-huh.

01:44:01.000 Like, ten seconds ago?

01:44:03.000 Like, literally.

01:44:03.000 Sure.

01:44:03.000 Like, a day ago.

01:44:04.000 Yep.

01:44:05.000 And now it's like, the country's rallying around.

01:44:07.000 I know.

01:44:07.000 Yeah.

01:44:08.000 What?

01:44:08.000 I don't know.

01:44:09.000 I don't even- Yeah, we're so easily manipulated, and they're all doing it in lockstep.

01:44:14.000 Yeah, no doubt about it.

01:44:15.000 There's no doubt about it.

01:44:16.000 She was... 0.97

01:44:17.000 She polled as the least popular vice president of all time.

01:44:21.000 Yeah.

01:44:22.000 She is...

01:44:23.000 You know, I had dinner with a friend of mine recently who actually knows her.

01:44:26.000 He says she's very smart.

01:44:28.000 But when she gets in front of a camera, she locks up and she's just not good at communicating.

01:44:33.000 And she tries to go off script and she...

01:44:36.000 You know, whenever you're talking in front of a large group of people, there's a bizarre stress and pressure that really constricts your ability to communicate.

01:44:47.000 I'm aware.

01:44:48.000 Yeah.

01:44:49.000 As of the last few minutes.

01:44:50.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:44:52.000 And this is just you and me, right?

01:44:53.000 This is just you and me.

01:44:54.000 And now imagine you and me, but we're in front of 15,000 people that are hanging on our every word, and you're kind of free-balling, and maybe you really haven't even done the research.

01:45:03.000 Like, someone's asking, how are you going to fix the economy?

01:45:05.000 You're right?

01:45:05.000 And then you have some, well, the problem is everybody needs money because of the bills.

01:45:11.000 And we're working on that.

01:45:12.000 Like, what?

01:45:13.000 Well, that's so obvious when the passage of time is significant and the significance of the passage of time is significant because of the passage of time.

01:45:20.000 Exactly.

01:45:21.000 So that's someone who is basically like a kid in the fifth grade who's writing a book report but they haven't read the book.

01:45:27.000 That's every time I see her on camera, that's all I can think, is that she's the kid who didn't do her homework.

01:45:32.000 Right.

01:45:32.000 Because she just has that vibe.

01:45:34.000 Did you see the clip of her talking about how dare we wish Merry Christmas to people?

01:45:39.000 No.

01:45:40.000 Yeah, she does this bizarre rant about how we shouldn't be wishing Merry Christmas to anyone.

01:45:45.000 Is this when she was a senator?

01:45:46.000 I don't know.

01:45:47.000 It's recent.

01:45:48.000 It's recent?

01:45:49.000 Yeah.

01:45:49.000 Really?

01:45:49.000 It's so strange that, like, that was her, like, that's the only time I've seen her passionate about anything on camera.

01:45:55.000 Come on, really?

01:45:55.000 No, I haven't seen that.

01:45:57.000 I've seen the one she was telling that people need to be woke.

01:45:59.000 Everyone needs to be more woke.

01:46:00.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:01.000 You should be more woke.

01:46:01.000 You should figure out who's the wokest and try to be the wokest, but she should, whatever, everyone should be more woke.

01:46:07.000 She's, like, laughing. 1.00

01:46:07.000 It's like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:46:08.000 And when we all sing happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas and wish each other Merry Christmas, these children are not going to have a Merry Christmas. 1.00

01:46:19.000 How dare we speak Merry Christmas?

01:46:21.000 How dare we?

01:46:24.000 Merry Christmas, everyone.

01:46:30.000 She invoked Greta Thunberg a little bit there. 1.00

01:46:32.000 Oh, that's so nutty.

01:46:35.000 How dare we?

01:46:36.000 How dare we?

01:46:37.000 How dare you?

01:46:38.000 Yeah, no, we're definitely being gaslit.

01:46:40.000 And not only that, here's the big one, right?

01:46:42.000 She wasn't elected.

01:46:43.000 Right.

01:46:44.000 She was appointed vice president and then they didn't do primaries. 0.98

01:46:50.000 They had no primaries for Joe Biden.

01:46:52.000 And now all of a sudden she is the nominee because he's stepping away.

01:46:57.000 And so then they bring in her and they bring in this other guy who's radical from Minnesota.

01:47:02.000 That's the vice president.

01:47:04.000 Who, he believes a lot of wild things.

01:47:09.000 One of them is transgender surgery for people who are under 13. Another one is abortion up until nine months.

01:47:19.000 Ooh.

01:47:19.000 Yeah.

01:47:23.000 There's reasons why people medically would, like, if the woman's life is in danger, if the child has something wrong, it's not gonna live.

01:47:32.000 There's reasons why they choose to do things like that.

01:47:37.000 But that stuff scares the fuck out of people. 0.55

01:47:39.000 He changed the Minnesota state flag to make it look like a Somali flag. 0.89

01:47:45.000 Yeah.

01:47:45.000 Oh.

01:47:45.000 You haven't seen that?

01:47:46.000 No.

01:47:47.000 Yeah.

01:47:47.000 Show that video.

01:47:49.000 So the video of him taking down the Minnesota flag and he replaced it with the new flag that looks a lot like the Somali flag.

01:47:56.000 Wow.

01:47:56.000 Minnesota has a huge population of Somalis in it.

01:47:59.000 Well, isn't What's-Her-Face? 0.88

01:48:01.000 Yes.

01:48:01.000 Yeah.

01:48:02.000 Omar.

01:48:03.000 Yeah.

01:48:04.000 But there's a video of him doing it.

01:48:08.000 Well, okay.

01:48:09.000 Well, let's see the video.

01:48:11.000 But they did change the Minnesota state flag, correct?

01:48:15.000 Sometimes the false...

01:48:17.000 Yeah, that's the problem with, like, fact checkers. 1.00

01:48:19.000 Some of these fact checkers are completely full of shit. 0.97

01:48:21.000 Like, you're just trying to debunk something, especially now when there's all this scrutiny being paid attention to what this guy's done. 1.00

01:48:28.000 Yeah.

01:48:30.000 What have you...

01:48:31.000 What's the false stuff, Jamie?

01:48:34.000 It's not the flag itself, correct?

01:48:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I typed in I'm just trying to even get to it.

01:48:39.000 A whole bunch of stories are popping up.

01:48:40.000 I'll just show you this.

01:48:41.000 Like, no, he didn't give them a Somali flag.

01:48:43.000 No, he didn't change it to resemble Somali.

01:48:45.000 False Somali state flag.

01:48:47.000 Okay, but what does it look like now?

01:48:49.000 That's what I was trying to get to.

01:48:50.000 Okay, on the left is a Somali flag.

01:48:52.000 On the right is a Minnesota state flag.

01:48:54.000 Okay.

01:48:55.000 Same color as Somali flag, a white star, a different white star in it, like the Somali flag.

01:49:01.000 Very different than the original Minnesota flag.

01:49:04.000 And there's the video down below that.

01:49:06.000 That's when he changes it out.

01:49:08.000 So he takes out the Minnesota state flag.

01:49:10.000 Oh, hold on a second.

01:49:12.000 Wait a minute.

01:49:13.000 Turn the volume up, please.

01:49:14.000 So you hear him say that?

01:49:18.000 All right, ready.

01:49:19.000 Whoa, wait a minute.

01:49:22.000 So he gets the flag, picks it up, moves it out of the way, and replaces it.

01:49:31.000 Look at this.

01:49:36.000 There, that's better.

01:49:38.000 Why is that better?

01:49:39.000 I don't know.

01:49:40.000 Why do you care what the flag looks like, first of all?

01:49:43.000 And why do you get to change the flag?

01:49:45.000 How crazy is that the governor gets to change the flag?

01:49:48.000 Who else is involved in that decision to change the flag?

01:49:51.000 Is that what happened?

01:49:52.000 I don't know.

01:49:53.000 Usually it's a big event.

01:49:55.000 They let people pick, you know.

01:49:57.000 Right.

01:49:57.000 Now we have a bunch of people that's a high population of Somalis in your state.

01:50:01.000 I would imagine they would want to try to get that flag a little closer to home.

01:50:06.000 The worst incident of...

01:50:09.000 Fact-checking was the quid pro quo Joe clip where Biden brags about that time that he withheld a billion dollars of aid to Ukraine.

01:50:22.000 So they fire a prosecutor. 0.77

01:50:24.000 To fire a prosecutor that we now know his son worked for.

01:50:26.000 And if you type that in, Snopes or whatever would tell you just like, oh, that didn't happen.

01:50:31.000 There was no quid pro quo and Biden didn't want the prosecutor fired because he didn't know that his son worked for Burisma at the time.

01:50:37.000 And it's like, how can you just say that's fake?

01:50:41.000 And it's scary to me that people will read that and be like, oh, it's fake.

01:50:44.000 It's like, no, look at it with your eyes. 0.92

01:50:46.000 Yeah, fact-checkers are fucking dangerous, and it's really... 0.96

01:50:49.000 I mean, what you're seeing is kind of treason. 0.98

01:50:55.000 It's kind of what it is.

01:50:56.000 If you're seeing that kind of fact-checking, you're lying.

01:50:58.000 You're lying, and you're intentionally misrepresenting facts, and you're doing so because you want a specific result politically.

01:51:07.000 And it should be illegal.

01:51:09.000 I agree.

01:51:09.000 Especially if people think of you as a fact checker.

01:51:12.000 And what does that mean?

01:51:14.000 What does it mean to be a fact checker?

01:51:15.000 The problem with facts is a lot of them are very subjective.

01:51:17.000 You can find one small inconsistency or one...

01:51:21.000 You could phrase a question in a certain way and have your answer false in a different way because you're just finding some nitpicky way to look at things.

01:51:32.000 I've seen a lot of that.

01:51:34.000 To the point where you're like, that's not fact-checked at all. 1.00

01:51:36.000 You guys just fucking, you're gaslighting. 0.99

01:51:39.000 It's just pure gaslighting. 1.00

01:51:41.000 This is what it says, who picked the new flag.

01:51:43.000 State Emblems Redesign Commission tasked with choosing the new flag and seal made its final selections this week, and the new design will debut next year.

01:51:53.000 It follows four months of meetings, many-spirited debates, and 2,500 submissions from the public sharing their ideas for the new symbols.

01:52:00.000 This is why they changed it.

01:52:03.000 He said it was problematic.

01:52:05.000 Problematic.

01:52:06.000 Oh, I love that term.

01:52:07.000 Our current flag is problematic.

01:52:09.000 I think we all know that.

01:52:10.000 We've evolved from a more diverse state, evolved into a more diverse state, and I think it's more reflective of that.

01:52:16.000 Okay, what was the original flag?

01:52:19.000 There's concern with the scene depicted on the old flag, which many found offensive.

01:52:24.000 First adopted in 1957, the flag showed a white settler tilling land as an indigenous man rides horseback.

01:52:31.000 Indigenous members of the State Emblem Redesign Commission said it was harmful to their communities and promoted the erasure of their people from the land.

01:52:40.000 What?

01:52:41.000 Well, can I see what it looks like?

01:52:42.000 Show me the original, just get a photo of the original Minnesota flag.

01:52:53.000 Okay, click on that.

01:52:55.000 Let's see what it looked like.

01:52:57.000 Okay.

01:52:58.000 So there's a Native American on horseback.

01:53:01.000 I see it, though.

01:53:02.000 And then there's a farmer tilling the land and a Native American on horseback. 1.00

01:53:07.000 Is that problematic because Native Americans didn't really ride horses?

01:53:11.000 And people didn't really till the land?

01:53:13.000 Like, I don't understand what...

01:53:14.000 There's a big controversy about that, actually.

01:53:16.000 Yeah?

01:53:17.000 Whether or not horses, how long horses have been in North America.

01:53:20.000 Well, horses originated in North America.

01:53:23.000 What?

01:53:23.000 Yeah.

01:53:24.000 Horses originated in North America, including zebras.

01:53:27.000 All of them originated in North America.

01:53:29.000 Then they were wiped out and they had been introduced into Asia and Africa and all these other continents and then reintroduced back to America.

01:53:37.000 Right.

01:53:37.000 I meant like...

01:53:39.000 When people rode them?

01:53:40.000 Correct.

01:53:41.000 Right.

01:53:42.000 Because a lot of people are saying that First Nations peoples had horses for a lot longer than Europeans had been in America.

01:53:50.000 Certainly possible.

01:53:51.000 There's certainly different segments, different North American tribes that were much better, including right here where we are, the Comanche. 0.95

01:53:59.000 The Comanche were notoriously good at raising horses and was part of how fierce they were. 1.00

01:54:05.000 They had so many horses.

01:54:06.000 They rode them so well and they could ride sideways and shoot arrows underneath the horse's neck.

01:54:11.000 But...

01:54:13.000 I don't know why that's so problematic.

01:54:15.000 You've got to replace it with something that looks a whole lot like a Somali flag. 0.72

01:54:18.000 The idea that it doesn't look like a Somali flag is kind of crazy.

01:54:21.000 I mean, it does.

01:54:23.000 It does.

01:54:23.000 It certainly does.

01:54:24.000 It's certainly the same color.

01:54:25.000 It certainly also has a white star.

01:54:27.000 It's just a different white star.

01:54:28.000 Correct.

01:54:29.000 Yeah.

01:54:30.000 So it's like, you know, the flag doesn't bother me that much.

01:54:34.000 If the people in Minnesota like it, like, who cares?

01:54:36.000 It's just a star and some colors.

01:54:38.000 The real problem is...

01:54:41.000 When you hear discussions of things that are like openly Marxist philosophies, when you hear talk about equal outcomes, and not just equal opportunity, but that we all need to arrive at the same place, equal outcome talk,

01:54:57.000 there's only one way they can do that, and it's by forcing you.

01:55:01.000 Well, it's by everyone having nothing.

01:55:02.000 Yeah.

01:55:02.000 That's the only way to have things totally equal.

01:55:05.000 Exactly.

01:55:06.000 Because you can't have everyone have everything.

01:55:07.000 That's impossible.

01:55:08.000 Right.

01:55:09.000 There's no way.

01:55:10.000 There's not enough resources.

01:55:11.000 And so for equal distribution, that has to be enforced by law.

01:55:15.000 So that has to be enforced by the government and the government generally does not have equal.

01:55:19.000 They have much more than you.

01:55:20.000 And that's Fidel Castro in Cuba.

01:55:23.000 That's North Korea. 0.86

01:55:25.000 That's virtually every communist country that's ever existed.

01:55:28.000 You have a military dictatorship that decides what you can and can't do with your time.

01:55:33.000 And all under the guise of making it better for everyone.

01:55:36.000 And that's exactly what they did to North Korea when they took over people's farms. 0.96

01:55:40.000 They said, we're going to take over the farm so that everybody has food.

01:55:42.000 Yay! 0.99

01:55:43.000 Good.

01:55:43.000 Now everyone's starving.

01:55:44.000 And the government has all the food. 0.99

01:55:46.000 If you kill a cow, they'll kill you. 1.00

01:55:47.000 Yeah, it's nuts. 0.60

01:55:49.000 It's nuts that people don't learn from history and it's nuts that people who subscribe to this leftist ideology have this very distorted version of humans and how capitalism works and what's the benefits of it.

01:56:02.000 I think there's a lot of parts of progressive ideology and philosophy that could be applied to society to make things better.

01:56:11.000 I think if we funded more things the same way we fund The fire department, the police force, these are kind of socialist things, right?

01:56:19.000 Everybody gets access to the fire department.

01:56:21.000 It's a part of being in the community.

01:56:22.000 We all pay for it.

01:56:24.000 Education is that way, but it should be much more funded, right?

01:56:27.000 It should be much more prestigious, much better trained teachers, a more esteemed position.

01:56:34.000 I feel the same way about law enforcement.

01:56:51.000 I think?

01:56:55.000 The problem is these people that have this idea of equal outcome, this is the worst version of all these leftist ideologies.

01:57:04.000 The worst version is open borders, everybody should have everything, and then equal distribution of it.

01:57:10.000 And then what always comes with that is they unarm the citizens.

01:57:13.000 And if they don't unarm the citizens, you can't get away with any of this stuff.

01:57:17.000 But as soon as you have – no one has guns other than the police, everybody is forced to comply. 1.00

01:57:21.000 And if the army and the police are the only ones that get to tell you what to do and they take orders from the government and the government is a communist dictatorship, you're fucked. 0.97

01:57:30.000 And that has never been – More evident than in all the versions of it that you can see in current world politics now where a government has been taken over by a communist regime. 0.98

01:57:44.000 It's always bad.

01:57:46.000 It never turns out good. 0.99

01:57:47.000 Not a single fucking time. 0.99

01:57:49.000 People starve. 1.00

01:57:51.000 It gets horrible.

01:57:53.000 There's just terrible government overreach.

01:57:57.000 You're seeing it now in England where people are getting arrested for tweets.

01:58:01.000 England, you know, people talk about Soviet Russia, like how bad Russia is in terms of cracking down on thought police and cracking down on bad tweets and things like that.

01:58:14.000 I think the statistics are I think there's something like 4,000 people have been arrested in England for thought crimes where they've said things online that people find to be a hateful thing or a problematic thing.

01:58:32.000 And I think it's only 200 in Russia.

01:58:35.000 Oh, wow.

01:58:36.000 Yeah.

01:58:36.000 That says a lot.

01:58:38.000 Yeah.

01:58:39.000 Maybe in Russia they're too scared to do it at all.

01:58:40.000 Could be.

01:58:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:58:42.000 But the fact that they're comfortable with finding people who've said something that they disagree with and putting them in a fucking cage in England in 2024 is really wild. 0.98

01:58:52.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:58:53.000 Especially they're saying you get arrested just for retweeting something.

01:58:57.000 And who's to—here's the problem with that.

01:58:58.000 Even if you say, yeah, well, people shouldn't treat hateful things.

01:59:01.000 I agree.

01:59:02.000 They shouldn't.

01:59:02.000 But who's to decide what is a hateful thing?

01:59:05.000 That's the problem.

01:59:05.000 It's subjective.

01:59:06.000 That's the problem.

01:59:06.000 It's very subjective.

01:59:07.000 And it still shouldn't be a crime.

01:59:09.000 And in our lifetime, we've seen that get moved, right?

01:59:12.000 So it used to be if a guy thought he was a woman and his name was Doug and you grew up with Doug and all of a sudden Doug wants to be called Debbie, if you call him Doug— It's no big deal.

01:59:24.000 Like, yeah, maybe you're being rude to call him Doug, but it's not a hate crime, okay?

01:59:29.000 Well, now a lot of people think it's a hate crime, and that got you banned from Twitter for life.

01:59:34.000 So if you deadnamed someone on the old Twitter, you were banned for life.

01:59:39.000 Deadnamed, not even making up a name. 1.00

01:59:41.000 You can call him an idiot. 1.00

01:59:42.000 You can call someone an idiot, okay? 1.00

01:59:43.000 Forget about a man and address, maybe that's a problem. 1.00

01:59:45.000 But if you call, like, a regular guy an idiot, you stupid fuck, fine, no problem. 1.00

01:59:50.000 But if you call Doug, Doug, You will get banned for life. 1.00

01:59:54.000 Okay, that's the new hate speech.

01:59:56.000 That's crazy.

01:59:57.000 Now, if that keeps going, that didn't exist before.

02:00:00.000 If that keeps going, maybe you can go to jail for calling him Doug.

02:00:03.000 Maybe they think it's okay to put you in jail because you violated their hate speech laws.

02:00:07.000 That's how nutty things can get.

02:00:09.000 And you've also seen during COVID how ridiculous people get with cracking down and enforcing laws like that.

02:00:16.000 You know, you saw it in Australia, people getting arrested for being outside without a mask on.

02:00:21.000 Which is like the opposite of what you should be doing.

02:00:23.000 Exactly.

02:00:23.000 I mean, you should be outside is what I'm saying.

02:00:24.000 Right.

02:00:24.000 You should be outside and you should have a mask on.

02:00:26.000 It's nonsense.

02:00:27.000 It doesn't work.

02:00:27.000 There's no evidence whatsoever that it's effective.

02:00:30.000 I thought it was funny how many people – like the mask was never intended to be protection for you.

02:00:34.000 Right.

02:00:35.000 It was to protect others around you.

02:00:37.000 But like I saw so many people putting it on like a shield.

02:00:40.000 It's like it doesn't – it's not a – Not only that, you're using surgical masks.

02:00:45.000 Those are designed to keep people from spitting into open wounds and dropping particles out of their mouth into people's surgeries.

02:00:53.000 We're so susceptible to manipulation and that's what's really scary about the time that we're living in because we have so much access to information but yet so many people are willing to put the blinders on and go full steam ahead with whatever their team wants.

02:01:08.000 There was this ridiculous video, the other day, comics for Kamala.

02:01:13.000 Did you see that? 0.95

02:01:14.000 No, when I saw white men for Kamala.

02:01:17.000 Was that it?

02:01:17.000 There's white dudes for Kamala.

02:01:20.000 This is all organized, by the way.

02:01:21.000 And there was a Twitch streamer, one of the big-time Twitch streamers, one of the big guys, who read out what they were offering him.

02:01:29.000 They were offering him money to advocate.

02:01:32.000 For Kamala Harris online. 0.99

02:01:34.000 He's like, I am not fucking doing this. 0.97

02:01:35.000 And so he's like reading this thing where they're offering money. 0.98

02:01:38.000 They're literally paying for astroturfing.

02:01:41.000 Yeah.

02:01:41.000 The most egregious thing I've seen recently, you know, after everything of the past eight years, nine years, it's hard to get pissed off genuinely anymore.

02:01:50.000 But is now all the left people saying that Trump is afraid to debate Trump or that Trump is afraid to debate Kamala. 0.97

02:01:57.000 And I saw this meme of Trump is like the cowardly lion.

02:02:00.000 Everyone's like, he's never going to show up. 0.53

02:02:02.000 It's like you said the exact same thing about Biden.

02:02:04.000 The exact same thing.

02:02:05.000 And Trump went in there and just like...

02:02:08.000 It was...

02:02:09.000 Oh, man.

02:02:10.000 The guy who got shot in the face like two days ago and said, fight, fight, fight, is scared to debate Kamala. 0.97

02:02:16.000 Yeah, it seems ridiculous. 0.79

02:02:17.000 But, you know, that's just what they do. 0.84

02:02:19.000 That's politics.

02:02:20.000 They do it on the left.

02:02:21.000 They do it on the right.

02:02:22.000 They gaslight you.

02:02:23.000 They manipulate you.

02:02:24.000 They promote narratives.

02:02:26.000 And the only one who's not doing that is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. You a fan?

02:02:30.000 Yeah, I am a fan.

02:02:32.000 Yeah, he's the only one that makes sense to me.

02:02:33.000 He's the only one that—he doesn't attack people.

02:02:36.000 He attacks actions and ideas, but he's much more reasonable and intelligent.

02:02:43.000 I mean, the guy was an environmental attorney and cleaned up the East River.

02:02:47.000 I mean, he's a legitimate guy.

02:02:49.000 You know, before anybody started calling him an anti-vaxxer, which I thought he was, too.

02:02:53.000 I thought he was this nut, this, like, conspiracy theorist nut, until I read his book.

02:02:58.000 I read the real Anthony Fauci, and I'm like, what is— How much of this is real?

02:03:04.000 Because if it's all real, this is fucking insane and we live in a world where we're being manipulated by these health organizations that are being paid by the pharmaceutical drug interests and these pharmaceutical drug companies are pumping these products out into the population and telling us that we need them and then making insane amounts of money and then Also,

02:03:26.000 the government is in on it, and also they share a patent with Moderna, and also they share profits, and there's 700 million dollars, 700... 0.95

02:03:36.000 I mean, however much money was made, whatever the number is that these guys made off of these products, like, this is, all of it is fucking crazy.

02:03:45.000 There's the revolving door between the CDC and the FDA and then these pharmaceutical drug companies, so the people that make the regulations, Yeah.

02:04:03.000 Yeah.

02:04:13.000 They don't want to be called an anti-vaxxer.

02:04:15.000 That's a big one.

02:04:16.000 Right.

02:04:17.000 It cracked me up how a lot of the people on the right started to despise the vaccine and then Trump at the same time was like, it's my vaccine, you guys.

02:04:28.000 And then he got kind of confused.

02:04:29.000 It's one of the rare times in politics that Trump didn't seem sure of his course.

02:04:33.000 Well, I think he was proud of getting it out there.

02:04:37.000 Yeah, warp speed.

02:04:37.000 Yeah, and he was proud that they did it.

02:04:40.000 We got the vaccine.

02:04:41.000 It was a good vaccine.

02:04:43.000 I don't think he knows.

02:04:44.000 You know, I think he took it, which is crazy, too, because the guy survived COVID. He got COVID before the vaccine was developed, and then he still took the vaccine, which is, like, literally illogical.

02:04:54.000 It flies in the face of science and what we understand about the immune system.

02:04:58.000 Yeah.

02:05:00.000 There's a video of Anthony Fauci from many years ago on a talk show saying someone got the flu.

02:05:05.000 Should they get a flu shot?

02:05:06.000 No, because if you survive the disease, if you recover from the disease, you have the best protection.

02:05:13.000 He's literally saying that.

02:05:15.000 And then, of course, that was thrown out the window when they wanted to vaccinate everybody.

02:05:18.000 Well, plus, it's not a vaccine.

02:05:20.000 It's a flu shot.

02:05:21.000 It's the equivalent of a flu shot.

02:05:22.000 Because a vaccine means you can't get it.

02:05:24.000 Well, it's even more weird because it's mRNA, right?

02:05:28.000 So it's like this messenger RNA It's basically gene therapy.

02:05:35.000 Like you're tricking your body into creating these antibodies.

02:05:38.000 Right.

02:05:39.000 And you're also doing a bunch of damage to some people.

02:05:41.000 Yeah.

02:05:42.000 Which is also their gaslighting about how many people are vaccine injured. 0.98

02:05:45.000 I fucking know a bunch of them. 0.98

02:05:47.000 We all do. 0.99

02:05:48.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:05:48.000 We all know somebody who got fucked up by that stuff. 0.99

02:05:50.000 It's all crazy. 0.99

02:05:52.000 What's up?

02:05:52.000 Looking into the people arrested for tweets in England thing.

02:05:55.000 Yeah.

02:05:55.000 It's a very confusing story.

02:05:57.000 So it says 3,395 arrests have been made by 29 UK police forces for Section 127 offenses, which is used for cases of online abuse.

02:06:09.000 According to the article, 1,696 people were subsequently charged.

02:06:14.000 Section 127 offenses cover harassment that takes place via electronic communications network and is not limited to social media posts, harassment via email or other forms of online communication.

02:06:25.000 Can also fall under this definition.

02:06:27.000 So this video is going around recently.

02:06:30.000 Of the lady arresting that guy. 1.00

02:06:32.000 And this is going back to a discussion that Constantine Kizzen was having on a YouTube video.

02:06:39.000 Right.

02:06:40.000 From before COVID though.

02:06:42.000 So this was all from like 2017. Yeah, but they've been doing it for a while, yeah.

02:06:45.000 I'm looking up and trying to find, like, I can't find any updated information that says that this is still continuing to happen, except for three guys were recently arrested for, like, the Leeds riots because they were posting violent stuff on Twitter or something like that.

02:07:02.000 I know there was one guy who was posting stickers.

02:07:06.000 He got arrested for posting stickers that they said were offensive.

02:07:14.000 What we have with the First Amendment, freedom of speech.

02:07:17.000 Freedom of speech is gigantic.

02:07:19.000 There's only one way you find out what's right.

02:07:20.000 You got to let people talk.

02:07:22.000 And you got to let people, even like on X, say the wrong things or say offensive things.

02:07:26.000 You find those people, you don't like them, block them.

02:07:29.000 You don't like it, don't listen.

02:07:30.000 Don't read.

02:07:31.000 Don't read what they're saying.

02:07:32.000 It's disturbing.

02:07:33.000 It is very disturbing.

02:07:34.000 To me, when I really became hyper-aware of it was post-October 7th, when you see so much anti-Semitism. 0.56

02:07:44.000 It's just blatant, out in the open, and often incorrect and ignorant anti-Semitism. 0.57

02:07:50.000 Not just like, wow, look at all these Jewish people that are the head of these banks. 0.98

02:07:54.000 Look at all these Jewish people that are running show business. 1.00

02:07:56.000 But just... 0.87

02:07:58.000 Ruthless, nasty anti-Semitism out in the open.

02:08:01.000 And then people agreeing with it out in the open. 0.92

02:08:03.000 Like, this is crazy.

02:08:05.000 Well, it's almost...

02:08:06.000 It's because it's coming from one protected class to another.

02:08:11.000 Mm-hmm.

02:08:12.000 Is how I see that.

02:08:13.000 Because, I mean, like...

02:08:15.000 Right.

02:08:15.000 Obviously, if that was a stance of the right, it would be immediately called out as evil as it is.

02:08:22.000 Right.

02:08:23.000 It's not, right?

02:08:23.000 It's a stance of the left, which is fascinating.

02:08:26.000 That's why those...

02:08:27.000 When those heads of universities were getting grilled and they were talking about whether or not saying death to the Jews is harassment at MIT or at Harvard rather.

02:08:40.000 And she was saying, well, if it's actionable.

02:08:44.000 So you're saying you actually got to wait till they do it.

02:08:47.000 You got to wait till they commit genocide before it's a problem.

02:08:50.000 Yeah.

02:08:50.000 That's pretty nuts.

02:08:51.000 It's nuts.

02:08:52.000 Yeah, it's nuts.

02:08:53.000 But it's also – it's like – this is the consequences of having these rigid ideologies where you think that your side has to be correct and the other side is incorrect.

02:09:06.000 And if you think, you know, free, free Palestine, this is what we're into. 0.97

02:09:09.000 So, like, the people that are the most radical that are pushing that the furthest, like the Antifa of that organization, are the death of the Jews people. 0.60

02:09:16.000 They're the ones that are going to take, like, remember during the George Floyd riots and the Antifa riots, like, people on the left sided with violent mobs and tried to gaslight you on what they did.

02:09:27.000 They said they're mostly peaceful demonstrations.

02:09:29.000 As the camera's panning around trying not to get something engulfed in flames.

02:09:33.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:09:34.000 That's gaslighting.

02:09:35.000 But the reason why is because those are the people that are going to crack heads and get things done for our side.

02:09:40.000 That's the implication.

02:09:42.000 The implication is we are on the left and the most violent and aggressive people on the left, they're going to push the envelope.

02:09:48.000 They're going to get things done.

02:09:49.000 So they're mostly doing good.

02:09:50.000 They're mostly peaceful.

02:09:51.000 Yeah, well, I think the shame of it is that, like, I don't know, BLM, like, now it's pretty well understood that they were legit a scam.

02:10:02.000 Yeah, they made a lot of money, they bought a lot of real estate.

02:10:04.000 They bought, like, six mansions and a bunch of cars, and then they disbanded, you know?

02:10:09.000 Yeah.

02:10:09.000 And it's sad.

02:10:10.000 Like, have you seen the exterminator footage?

02:10:12.000 There was this exterminator, white guy, literally got handcuffed and shot by the police on camera in a hotel. 0.63

02:10:19.000 For what?

02:10:20.000 Oh.

02:10:21.000 Oh, you mean the guy that's in Phoenix?

02:10:23.000 I don't know where it was.

02:10:24.000 It's in Arizona where he's crawling along the hallway and his pants are dropping down and the cop shoots him?

02:10:30.000 No, I don't think so.

02:10:32.000 This is a guy who, he was an exterminator and he had a pellet gun and he was putting it in it.

02:10:36.000 That's it?

02:10:37.000 Yeah.

02:10:37.000 Yeah, it's in a hotel.

02:10:38.000 Yeah, it's in a hotel.

02:10:39.000 I remember that.

02:10:40.000 And that's one of the most disturbing...

02:10:43.000 What I'm trying to say is that if you're trying to solve the problem of police overstep, looking at it through a racial lens isn't going to solve it because that's not the problem.

02:10:53.000 Right. 0.92

02:10:53.000 Because it happens to white people. 0.92

02:10:55.000 It happens to a lot of people. 0.75

02:10:56.000 Right.

02:10:56.000 So you can't just blanket statement with it saying that it's about one particular group.

02:11:01.000 Right.

02:11:02.000 Well, I think it was one of those moments in history where one thing sets off and there's a bunch of tension that's like at the surface.

02:11:13.000 Racial tension.

02:11:14.000 And then one thing sets it off and then there's this narrative. 0.98

02:11:17.000 And then there's through social media, you get all these examples that you see over and over and over again of white cops shooting black people. 0.68

02:11:24.000 And so people have it in their mind that Black people are unjustly harassed and are attacked more than anyone else.

02:11:34.000 And that's why that professor at Harvard who released that study showing that there is not a difference, there's not a disparity, a racial disparity in the way black people are assaulted or shot by cops versus white people.

02:11:48.000 And people attacked him.

02:11:49.000 Because they don't want their narratives destroyed.

02:11:51.000 The problem is bad cops.

02:11:53.000 That's the problem.

02:11:54.000 And the problem is sociopaths that become police officers.

02:11:57.000 This problem is cops with PTSD. The problem is just like you can have bad anything in any walk of life.

02:12:05.000 You can have a bad doctor.

02:12:06.000 You can have a bad football coach.

02:12:08.000 You can have a bad cop. 1.00

02:12:09.000 And the bad cops are a real fucking problem. 1.00

02:12:12.000 They wind up shooting people that shouldn't be shot. 1.00

02:12:14.000 They're fucking crazy. 1.00

02:12:16.000 They've lost their soul. 1.00

02:12:18.000 You know?

02:12:19.000 The aliens wouldn't want them as a container.

02:12:21.000 No, they wouldn't.

02:12:22.000 No.

02:12:23.000 The alien thing is crazy if that's...

02:12:26.000 If what we're talking about when we talk about, like, save our souls, like, that we think about...

02:12:35.000 Having, like, your essence is negative and evil.

02:12:39.000 And that negative evil essence, they're trying to minimize the amount of those.

02:12:45.000 Like, if your crop has, like, a disease, if, like, some sort of a thing, some fungus is growing on your crop, you're going to destroy most of the crop.

02:12:55.000 Like, what do we have to do to protect the crop when we give the crop religion? 0.99

02:12:59.000 Let's keep these mind viruses from destroying us. 0.97

02:13:03.000 Let's keep war at a minimum.

02:13:05.000 Let's keep these people from doing things that are unethical and immoral because they actually do damage the thing that we need the most that's inside of it.

02:13:14.000 Right.

02:13:15.000 Have you ever had any sort of an alien experience?

02:13:18.000 Yeah, actually.

02:13:21.000 My roommate, and this was at my college, Ripon College, we were on this place that's basically just a balcony, and we just saw, it was like 3am, we drank a lot that night,

02:13:39.000 and we're having our last cigarette of the night.

02:13:41.000 And we just saw one triangle with red dots appear way in the distance and it was by a radio tower which I only mention because it's easy to say then you saw the radio tower but it's like no the radio tower was clear and then we watched it for like two minutes and then another one appeared right next to it and then they both disappeared.

02:14:05.000 And it wasn't really a big deal at the time.

02:14:08.000 And it still isn't now.

02:14:09.000 But it was something.

02:14:11.000 Man, it was really something.

02:14:12.000 When you say it wasn't a big deal, what do you mean?

02:14:14.000 We weren't agitated.

02:14:17.000 It was more just like, that's nuts.

02:14:20.000 Well, you're probably a little drunk still, too, right?

02:14:22.000 Yeah.

02:14:23.000 Oh, yeah.

02:14:24.000 But you all saw the same thing?

02:14:26.000 Oh, yeah.

02:14:26.000 How many guys?

02:14:27.000 Just two of us.

02:14:29.000 And...

02:14:30.000 It was very far away.

02:14:32.000 Did anybody else see it?

02:14:32.000 Was there any other reports?

02:14:34.000 Not that I know of.

02:14:35.000 I never looked into it.

02:14:36.000 And so it was very far away.

02:14:37.000 And how did it move?

02:14:39.000 Didn't move.

02:14:40.000 It just hovered?

02:14:41.000 We know.

02:14:41.000 I don't know if the first one appeared or not.

02:14:44.000 Or if it was always there.

02:14:45.000 But like, I think he saw it first and I looked and was like, what is that?

02:14:49.000 It was dark, but you couldn't see stars behind it.

02:14:54.000 So there was obviously something in between the three red lights.

02:14:57.000 And then the second one appeared overlapping it, so in front of it.

02:15:01.000 And then they both just disappeared.

02:15:03.000 Just disappeared?

02:15:04.000 Yeah.

02:15:05.000 Just blinked out of existence?

02:15:07.000 We didn't see them leave.

02:15:09.000 So you were staring at it and all of a sudden it was gone?

02:15:12.000 Correct. 0.99

02:15:12.000 And did you both say, oh shit, it's gone? 0.99

02:15:15.000 I don't even remember. 0.99

02:15:17.000 Wow.

02:15:19.000 It was something, though.

02:15:20.000 I have it.

02:15:21.000 I have photos of it on an old Blackberry.

02:15:23.000 Really?

02:15:24.000 Yeah.

02:15:24.000 How blurry are they?

02:15:26.000 Very blurry.

02:15:27.000 They just look like nothing.

02:15:29.000 What's the best photo of a UFO that's ever been taken? 0.66

02:15:34.000 I mean, there's a bunch of old ones from like the 1960s, I think, that think are straight horseshit.

02:15:39.000 There's this one guy who kept encountering them.

02:15:42.000 And it looks like hubcaps and stuff that he's throwing in the sky.

02:15:46.000 Yeah.

02:15:47.000 Could have been that, I don't know.

02:15:48.000 I don't know specifics of photos.

02:15:50.000 Did you ever see the Mexico City footage?

02:15:54.000 I don't even know why.

02:15:56.000 That made me think of Signs, the movie.

02:15:58.000 It's my favorite movie of all time.

02:16:00.000 It's a good movie. 0.86

02:16:01.000 The Mexico City UFO footage is interesting because it's in Mexico City and you see this thing flying and you see it like in the distance as it's going past these buildings and you're like, what the fuck is that? 0.91

02:16:13.000 Yeah.

02:16:14.000 And seen by thousands and thousands of people.

02:16:16.000 I would imagine that the best one is the Phoenix Lights.

02:16:21.000 Mm-hmm.

02:16:22.000 That's kind of the...

02:16:23.000 Clearest UFO photo ever taken was hidden from the public for three decades.

02:16:29.000 The Calvin photograph taken by two hikers in the Scottish Highlands.

02:16:33.000 The picture is handed over to the Ministry of Defense and was hidden from the public for more than three decades.

02:16:39.000 The unbelievable images show a diamond-shaped object hovering in the sky.

02:16:45.000 Hmm.

02:16:46.000 It looks like a saucer.

02:16:48.000 It looks like it's just pointy at the top.

02:16:50.000 Like, doesn't it look like it would be circular?

02:16:52.000 Why do they think it's diamond-shaped?

02:16:54.000 Oh, okay, that way it looks diamond-shaped.

02:16:56.000 Is that a photo?

02:16:57.000 That's the photo?

02:16:57.000 Mm-hmm.

02:16:58.000 Holy crap. 0.99

02:16:59.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:17:00.000 Wild, huh?

02:17:01.000 That is very wild.

02:17:03.000 Yeah.

02:17:04.000 It does look like it'd be circular. 0.98

02:17:08.000 I mean, it's hard to say what the fuck that is. 0.92

02:17:11.000 Go back to that other one, I think the top one is like enhanced. 0.97

02:17:15.000 Descriptions about it and eyewitnesses that saw it too.

02:17:17.000 I was trying to read what it said.

02:17:19.000 This is right here.

02:17:20.000 It says there's something fishy here.

02:17:22.000 A huge pinch of salt, but I was trying to get to it.

02:17:24.000 Right.

02:17:25.000 It says it hovered for 10 minutes, shot upwards, which we've heard before.

02:17:29.000 Before disappearing.

02:17:31.000 Negatives of the picture dubbed the Calvin photographer originally handed over to Scotland's Daily Record newspaper, who in turn passed them to the Ministry of Defense.

02:17:41.000 However, they were never shown to the public.

02:17:45.000 After decades of research, photos uncovered by academic and journalist Dr. David Clarke.

02:17:51.000 Dr. Clarke reached out to – Clarke is spelled in two different ways right there. 0.97

02:17:55.000 This website might suck. 0.67

02:17:57.000 See, he's got an E in the first one and then afterwards, no E. As the story goes, Dr. Clarke reached out to Craig Lindsay, former Royal Air Force press officer. 0.86

02:18:07.000 Who had kept a copy of the photo after the story was looked into back in the 90s.

02:18:12.000 Lindsey even kept the original envelope containing the Calvin photos in his possession.

02:18:18.000 Hmm.

02:18:19.000 That's the dude?

02:18:21.000 I guess so.

02:18:22.000 That dude looks like he might sell you a bad car.

02:18:27.000 For instance, an astronomer was left amazed by a UFO caught flying across the moon. 0.99

02:18:31.000 What the fuck's that? 0.98

02:18:32.000 Click on that. 0.99

02:18:38.000 Okay.

02:18:41.000 So he's looking at it through a telescope.

02:18:45.000 What's he see?

02:18:53.000 Did you see that?

02:18:55.000 What?

02:18:55.000 Something flew across the screen there.

02:18:57.000 Oh yeah.

02:19:00.000 Happened fast, but...

02:19:04.000 Right.

02:19:05.000 And there's a lot of space between this telescope and the moon, too.

02:19:08.000 Yeah, that could be satellites, right?

02:19:10.000 It says not the ISS. Okay, maybe it's another satellite.

02:19:13.000 Maybe it's a bug.

02:19:15.000 Or?

02:19:16.000 Maybe it's UFO. Aliens.

02:19:18.000 Yeah.

02:19:19.000 Or UFOs.

02:19:20.000 UFO. UAPs.

02:19:21.000 Yeah.

02:19:22.000 Why'd they change that?

02:19:24.000 Did UFO have a stink to it?

02:19:25.000 I think it was so Hillary Clinton had a sound bite. 0.88

02:19:29.000 Really?

02:19:29.000 Do you remember?

02:19:30.000 She was the one who announced it.

02:19:31.000 Oh.

02:19:32.000 That they changed the name?

02:19:33.000 Yeah, she was the first one to do it.

02:19:36.000 Have you seen that clip where she's like, UAPs, actually. 1.00

02:19:40.000 No, I haven't.

02:19:42.000 All of it's weird.

02:19:43.000 It is weird. 0.99

02:19:44.000 It's a waste of time, you know, because if there's no real evidence in front of you, you're just sitting around here spinning your wheels, having stupid conversations about it. 0.99

02:19:54.000 Oh, what happened? 1.00

02:19:55.000 What's that one about?

02:19:58.000 She was promising to tell the truth about UFOs back in 2016. Oh, she lied.

02:20:01.000 She was just trying to get elected. 1.00

02:20:05.000 Maybe if she won, she would have told us that it was Charlemagne.

02:20:10.000 The god.

02:20:15.000 You think she smells like sulfur? 1.00

02:20:19.000 I do.

02:20:20.000 No, I don't.

02:20:22.000 Have you seen the remake, the Alex Jones remake of that song?

02:20:25.000 Yes.

02:20:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:20:26.000 That's like the best thing I've ever seen.

02:20:27.000 No, it's amazing.

02:20:28.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

02:20:29.000 When he goes on that rant and they turn it into a song.

02:20:32.000 Yeah.

02:20:33.000 Yeah, it's easy to get very cynical about our world now.

02:20:37.000 It is.

02:20:38.000 It's terrible. 0.99

02:20:38.000 I think that's also a feature of this whole UFO thing is that people want the UFOs to come and save us because they think we're fucked. 0.99

02:20:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:20:45.000 I think that extraterrestrials, if they exist, are evil. 1.00

02:20:50.000 Really?

02:20:50.000 I do.

02:20:51.000 Really?

02:20:52.000 Well, I mean, if you look at the lion's share of abduction reports, they're all really nasty. 0.99

02:20:57.000 Yeah, there's always an anal probe and... 0.96

02:21:01.000 We're being paralyzed on an operating table. 0.97

02:21:04.000 Yeah.

02:21:05.000 But also it's like you've got to imagine the fear that a person would have.

02:21:10.000 It's not evil in terms of like they don't get killed, right?

02:21:14.000 So they get released, they get returned, but they have this terrifying and frightening experience. 0.96

02:21:18.000 So you've got to imagine that just being taking aboard a UFO, even if they're being kind to you, it'd be fucking horrific.

02:21:24.000 You'd be so scared that you would kind of assume that they were negative.

02:21:29.000 Right.

02:21:29.000 Well, according to Dr. Carla Turner, she has three rules, or ten rules about UFO abductions.

02:21:37.000 The first one is that we don't actually know what they are, so aliens or carbon or terrestrial.

02:21:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:22:00.000 And then the third rule is that they're full of shit. 1.00

02:22:05.000 And that they have total control over the abductee. 1.00

02:22:10.000 So, like, you only remember what they wanted you to remember.

02:22:13.000 And, like, it's nuts.

02:22:14.000 So she was like a doctor of language.

02:22:18.000 Nothing to do with aliens or anything.

02:22:20.000 Until in 1991, they let her remember that she's been abducted all her life.

02:22:27.000 Whoa.

02:22:28.000 Yeah, and then, strangely enough, same thing happened to her husband.

02:22:32.000 He remembered that he'd been abducted all of his life, and evidently they told her something like, why do you think you guys married each other?

02:22:40.000 And the implication was that it was just convenient for the aliens.

02:22:45.000 Whoa.

02:22:46.000 I know.

02:22:46.000 And it's so weird because you can watch her lectures.

02:22:48.000 They're mostly blacklisted, but there are ways to find them even on YouTube.

02:22:53.000 Does she seem rational?

02:22:54.000 She seems so rational.

02:22:56.000 And she just has this sweet, she's not old, but kind of an old lady voice.

02:23:00.000 And she talks extensively about how all these abductees have terrible traumas left from it, even if they have positive memories of the abductions.

02:23:09.000 Right.

02:23:10.000 Just because the subconscious probably has...

02:23:12.000 Correct.

02:23:12.000 And that a lot of them have terrible issues of cancer, and then she dies of cancer everywhere in 1998. I only discovered her a little while ago, and it was very disturbing stuff,

02:23:28.000 like really disturbing stuff.

02:23:30.000 Wow.

02:23:32.000 Tucker Carlson seems to believe that they've always been here.

02:23:36.000 He doesn't think they're coming here from another planet.

02:23:38.000 I think that that might be more likely.

02:23:41.000 He thinks that they're in the Bible, that this is something that's a feature of human history, that people have always discussed these beings, these things that are with us.

02:23:51.000 And that somehow or another they're able to evade our detection on a regular basis.

02:23:57.000 However that is.

02:23:58.000 But he thinks they're like angels and devils.

02:24:01.000 Well, I'm sure that's the words we used for them.

02:24:03.000 Have you read the angel description?

02:24:06.000 Like it's a wheel with 16 eyes or something?

02:24:10.000 That's Ezekiel.

02:24:11.000 Yeah.

02:24:11.000 Like that's a bizarre way to describe an angel.

02:24:14.000 Yeah.

02:24:14.000 I don't know what he's describing.

02:24:16.000 I think he's describing a craft and by eyes he means like sensors or something.

02:24:20.000 Like the translation got wonky.

02:24:22.000 That's the problem, right?

02:24:24.000 The problem is the translations.

02:24:26.000 First of all, you have to think that a lot of those stories were told for hundreds if not thousands of years before they were ever written down.

02:24:33.000 Sure.

02:24:34.000 And then they're told and written down in Aramaic.

02:24:37.000 They're written down in ancient Hebrew.

02:24:39.000 And then they're translated.

02:24:41.000 They're translated to Greek, Roman, or Latin rather.

02:24:45.000 They're translated to English, French, German.

02:24:48.000 A lot is lost.

02:24:49.000 I mean, a lot is lost if you translate Russian to English today.

02:24:52.000 You know, like if you see a Russian... 1.00

02:24:54.000 I see a Russian post sometimes on Twitter and I'll hit translate.

02:24:58.000 And I'm like, oh, wacky.

02:25:00.000 It kind of puts it together.

02:25:01.000 You know, it kind of puts it together in a wacky way.

02:25:03.000 And that's common.

02:25:05.000 But that's a language that we're well aware of.

02:25:09.000 Millions of people speak Russian.

02:25:10.000 Millions of people speak English.

02:25:12.000 This is the best we could do.

02:25:13.000 Right.

02:25:13.000 It's still the telephone game.

02:25:15.000 Yeah, still.

02:25:16.000 So now imagine...

02:25:18.000 A time with no science, no real understanding of what – the forces there at work in terms of like natural selection and all the different things, space and all the things that we're aware of today, the things that we do know.

02:25:33.000 And imagine these people are writing down these stories about the origins of humanity and the origins of mankind.

02:25:38.000 And I think there's some truth to what they're writing.

02:25:42.000 There's something to it.

02:25:43.000 I've always said that about the Big Bang.

02:25:45.000 Like, the beginning of the Bible, in the beginning there was light.

02:25:49.000 Boy, that sounds a lot like a Big Bang.

02:25:50.000 Sure does.

02:25:52.000 If I was going to tell you the story of the Big Bang, and then you told other people for like a thousand years, and then finally somebody writes it down, what do you think that would look like?

02:26:01.000 Probably in the beginning there was light.

02:26:03.000 What is it?

02:26:04.000 They say theologians need many miracles, evolution, Richard Dawkins type people only need one.

02:26:11.000 Yeah, the Big Bang.

02:26:12.000 Yeah.

02:26:13.000 How did it happen?

02:26:15.000 But it just did.

02:26:16.000 And it created everything that we see.

02:26:19.000 And doesn't Sir Roger Penrose, doesn't he believe that that wasn't the beginning of the universe now?

02:26:25.000 I think Roger Penrose has a completely different...

02:26:30.000 Theory about that now.

02:26:32.000 Which is fascinating.

02:26:34.000 My brain's not big enough for that stuff.

02:26:36.000 I don't think anyone's is.

02:26:37.000 That's part of the problem.

02:26:38.000 But I acknowledge it, so I don't even care.

02:26:41.000 That doesn't interest me.

02:26:43.000 I'm too fascinated by the smaller level.

02:26:46.000 I don't need the overarching giant one.

02:26:48.000 I need it all.

02:26:49.000 You need it all?

02:26:50.000 I need the overall—I mean, I'm just—it's all interesting to think about.

02:26:53.000 It's like occasionally I want to ponder how does this thing just expand to some insane point and then come back?

02:27:01.000 What was before the Big Bang?

02:27:02.000 The theory of Roger Penrose.

02:27:04.000 Attempt to answer the question, what was before the Big Bang, led last year's Nobel Prize winner Roger Penrose to an interesting cosmological concept in which our universe is just one link in an endless chain of predecessors and descendants.

02:27:19.000 I mean, why not?

02:27:20.000 Why not?

02:27:21.000 If there is a Big Bang, why not a series of them?

02:27:24.000 Why not an infinite number of different possibilities that these things could play out in?

02:27:29.000 I mean, it's all theoretical, though.

02:27:32.000 Right.

02:27:32.000 It's part of the problem.

02:27:33.000 I don't know.

02:27:34.000 It doesn't mean anything.

02:27:36.000 Right.

02:27:36.000 In terms of your real world.

02:27:37.000 Right.

02:27:38.000 Well, I mean, everything means something.

02:27:41.000 Yeah, I mean, something.

02:27:42.000 But, yeah, I mean, you're basically just spinning your wheels, just like you're spinning your wheels thinking about aliens.

02:27:47.000 It's like, we're just kind of spinning our wheels.

02:27:49.000 That's true.

02:27:50.000 Yeah.

02:27:50.000 That's true.

02:27:51.000 Until we're not.

02:27:52.000 Yeah.

02:27:52.000 Until they come.

02:27:53.000 That's the other theory, is that they're giving us a slow trickle of disclosure.

02:27:58.000 Yeah, but why would they care?

02:27:59.000 So that we get accustomed to it.

02:27:59.000 So civilization doesn't collapse, so the stock market doesn't crash, so that we don't, you know, pick off World War III. Did you mean humans are giving us a slow trickle?

02:28:08.000 Yes, that's what I mean.

02:28:10.000 That's fair.

02:28:11.000 Yeah.

02:28:11.000 I mean, have you ever read any of Diana Posolka's work?

02:28:15.000 Very interesting.

02:28:16.000 And she's a religious scholar.

02:28:18.000 And her take on this is very similar to what Tucker Carlson's saying. 0.69

02:28:24.000 And one of the things that she said with talking to people, especially Gary Nolan from Stanford, these people that have examined materials, that these materials, like whatever the fuck this stuff is made out of, is not something that we make. 0.73

02:28:37.000 We can't make it. 0.59

02:28:38.000 Or if we did make it, it would cost...

02:28:41.000 Hundreds of billions of dollars or some, whatever the number is, some insane amount of money to create these composites, whatever their metallurgy examinations of this stuff is.

02:28:53.000 And that they describe these things as donations.

02:28:57.000 These crashed crafts, like a donation.

02:29:01.000 Like that this race of super intelligent beings, hey, figure this out. 0.94

02:29:06.000 Like, you know, you leave a 57 Camaro in the fucking, or a 57 Chevy in a parking lot somewhere, and then people stumble upon it and go, what is this? 0.98

02:29:18.000 What is it? 0.98

02:29:18.000 How is it? 0.98

02:29:19.000 What's that?

02:29:19.000 Is it a tire?

02:29:20.000 Oh, if you get wheels and tires, oh, I can't get it to roll.

02:29:24.000 Right.

02:29:25.000 Oh, the engine fires.

02:29:26.000 It spins this thing that is the transmission that causes the wheels to...

02:29:32.000 We can make one of these.

02:29:33.000 And that's what they do.

02:29:34.000 And this is the Bob Lazar thing.

02:29:36.000 Like, Bob Lazar said that one of the, in this, all these classified documents that related to these UFOs, he said one of them, they said, was from an archaeological dig.

02:29:49.000 Allegedly.

02:29:50.000 That's the problem, right?

02:29:51.000 It's all nonsense.

02:29:52.000 We're sitting here just wasting time.

02:29:54.000 We can be very productive with our lives.

02:29:56.000 Instead we're talking about UFOs.

02:29:58.000 Yeah.

02:29:59.000 I mean, you're doing alright, I think.

02:30:01.000 What else are you making videos about?

02:30:03.000 Anything interesting you got coming up?

02:30:05.000 I'm doing sharks, because sharks are cool.

02:30:09.000 Who doesn't love sharks?

02:30:10.000 I'm doing a dream.

02:30:13.000 A dream one?

02:30:14.000 Yeah, about a dream I had.

02:30:17.000 Oh, no.

02:30:18.000 Lanky Gray Aliens, but I finished that one already. 1.00

02:30:21.000 Yeah, I saw that one today.

02:30:22.000 Yeah.

02:30:23.000 Did you watch it?

02:30:24.000 Yeah.

02:30:24.000 Is that your dream?

02:30:26.000 Yeah, that was me.

02:30:27.000 So you've had this recurring dream of Lanky Gray Aliens? 0.99

02:30:30.000 No.

02:30:31.000 Lanky Gray Aliens are just like a figment of my imagination. 0.98

02:30:36.000 Like, you know boogeymen that kids have that's just in your liminal...

02:30:40.000 Is that the word?

02:30:41.000 Liminal?

02:30:41.000 Subliminal?

02:30:41.000 No.

02:30:42.000 Oh, liminal?

02:30:42.000 Liminal space.

02:30:43.000 Oh, okay.

02:30:44.000 Like, if there's, like, did you have a basement when you were a kid?

02:30:49.000 Yes.

02:30:49.000 Okay.

02:30:50.000 Did you ever have to, like, turn the switch off somewhere and then go up the stairs?

02:30:55.000 No.

02:30:55.000 Okay, well, I had that.

02:30:56.000 And then, like, when it's the fear of where you can't see.

02:31:00.000 Right.

02:31:01.000 And I think everyone has a distinct thing that their brain imagines that's pretty terrifying.

02:31:07.000 Mine were always lanky gray aliens.

02:31:09.000 But if it's always this one thing...

02:31:11.000 Yeah, isn't that weird?

02:31:11.000 If you wonder, if these people are saying that their memories are erased, and then you do have an encounter, or you do have a sighting of a thing...

02:31:20.000 So I never gave that any thought whatsoever until I saw Gary Nolan's...

02:31:28.000 That's his name, right?

02:31:30.000 His talk on Channel 7 News or something?

02:31:34.000 And he described this electric feeling that he experienced after something.

02:31:41.000 This is how you connect, is what he said.

02:31:43.000 And that's literally the only thing of that entire video that ever, that made me like, ugh.

02:31:47.000 Because I remember that I had this weird, weird-ass dream about a gray.

02:31:51.000 And then after that dream, I was just like, I remember feeling very electric.

02:31:56.000 I am not saying that I had an alien encounter.

02:31:59.000 I'm not.

02:31:59.000 I'm truly not.

02:32:00.000 But that did give me pause.

02:32:02.000 Excuse me.

02:32:03.000 I keep burping.

02:32:03.000 It's really embarrassing.

02:32:04.000 But it's interesting to me that these things always happen while people are sleeping, or they always happen at night, which is when the dream state happens.

02:32:11.000 And like, so what is the dream state?

02:32:13.000 Dreams are bizarre.

02:32:14.000 Like, we have this very realistic thing that we're experiencing that we don't really understand.

02:32:19.000 And we sort of just accept that we have this wild, imaginary experience that seems realistic.

02:32:27.000 And you wake up, you're like, oh my god, I can't believe this dream that I had.

02:32:30.000 It's so nutty.

02:32:31.000 What is that like what is this thing this different than any other sort of imaginary thing that you experience in your life all the imaginary things that you experience in your life are like They're easily written off for the most part,

02:32:47.000 but dreams seem Hyper realistic sometimes they sure do and you have to remember.

02:32:52.000 Oh, this is a dream I had one last night where I woke up and I was like, oh, it's a dream like what the fuck is that about how weird and They seem like real experiences while they're happening.

02:33:02.000 And if you're having dreams that seem like real experiences and they're recurring and they're involving extraterrestrials and you've had this sighting and there is this understanding that they could manipulate what you remember and don't remember, 0.97

02:33:18.000 You can kind of mindfuck yourself into thinking you're getting abducted.

02:33:22.000 That's why I don't think I was. 0.96

02:33:23.000 Because to think that you were, or to think that you have been abducted is, I feel like...

02:33:29.000 It's strange.

02:33:31.000 Because I don't feel like I've been abducted.

02:33:33.000 I don't feel like a weirdo.

02:33:34.000 I feel like you've been abducted.

02:33:35.000 Do you?

02:33:36.000 I don't know.

02:33:36.000 It's just fun to say.

02:33:37.000 It is.

02:33:38.000 It is.

02:33:39.000 But...

02:33:40.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:33:42.000 So if there are people who are like suggestible and think they've been abducted, then what I am describing is a good case study in that.

02:33:51.000 I think that's a factor for sure.

02:33:53.000 Well, that's a factor too with memories.

02:33:55.000 Like people can place memories into a person.

02:33:59.000 And also people can distort their own memories over time.

02:34:03.000 And then have this like very rigid memory of a thing and you have it completely wrong.

02:34:07.000 That's very common, I'd imagine.

02:34:09.000 Very common.

02:34:09.000 Yeah.

02:34:10.000 Right.

02:34:10.000 Which is why the mind is such a bizarre thing in the first place.

02:34:14.000 Because it's how you formulate your view of reality, but it lies to you.

02:34:18.000 Right.

02:34:18.000 Well, but they're hopefully useful lies.

02:34:23.000 Yeah, hopefully, but sometimes not.

02:34:25.000 Sometimes people have a very bad version of themselves from memories.

02:34:30.000 Maybe they have a lot of self-hate or a lot of self-doubt, and then they connect these memories to themselves and they distort themselves and make themselves even worse.

02:34:39.000 Right.

02:34:40.000 Yeah, so hopefully it's beneficial, but sometimes it's not.

02:34:44.000 Well, it has to exist from an evolutionary perspective, I'd imagine.

02:34:47.000 That serves a purpose.

02:34:49.000 That's not random.

02:34:50.000 Probably, right? 0.95

02:34:51.000 If you're remembering yourself as doing something obnoxious or stupid, that's because the essence of you doing that is true. 0.94

02:34:58.000 And now you're ideally supposed to overcorrect or supposed to correct that. 0.97

02:35:02.000 Right, right.

02:35:02.000 It's a lesson that you can learn from that.

02:35:04.000 Right.

02:35:04.000 Yeah.

02:35:05.000 But you're right.

02:35:06.000 If it just cripples you emotionally, it doesn't do any good.

02:35:09.000 Well, it's just fascinating that this animal, this calculating animal, it's like constantly forming images of what's real and what's not real.

02:35:18.000 And, you know, what it is and it's looking at itself in some sort of a strange way and trying to examine how it fits into the world.

02:35:27.000 Which is impossible for it to do.

02:35:28.000 Right.

02:35:29.000 So it's like an exercise of torture.

02:35:30.000 Yeah.

02:35:31.000 And yet we all engage in it.

02:35:33.000 Constantly.

02:35:33.000 Yeah.

02:35:35.000 Any other things you're working on before we wrap this up?

02:35:40.000 No.

02:35:41.000 I'm trying to get a book published.

02:35:44.000 Oh yeah?

02:35:45.000 On what?

02:35:46.000 It's a novel, so all my subscribers would hate it.

02:35:50.000 I don't think so.

02:35:51.000 I do.

02:35:52.000 Why do you think they'd hate it?

02:35:54.000 Because it's not about Bigfoot or anything.

02:35:56.000 What's it about?

02:35:58.000 Well, it's high fantasy.

02:36:02.000 High fantasy?

02:36:03.000 High fantasy.

02:36:04.000 What does that mean?

02:36:06.000 Wizards, knights, Lord of the Rings type stuff.

02:36:09.000 That sounds fun. 1.00

02:36:10.000 People love that shit. 1.00

02:36:11.000 Yeah, but there are two protagonists who are gay, because I am gay. 1.00

02:36:19.000 So there's that, and I don't think that'll...

02:36:22.000 There's plenty of gay people.

02:36:24.000 Yeah. 0.84

02:36:25.000 There's plenty of people that don't care if someone's gay.

02:36:27.000 Why would that be bad?

02:36:29.000 Don't look at it all negative.

02:36:31.000 Yeah, maybe.

02:36:32.000 Look, man, sounds like fun.

02:36:33.000 Look, people love those kind of fantasy-type books.

02:36:37.000 Think about The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones. 1.00

02:36:41.000 People love that shit. 1.00

02:36:42.000 All the agents, they want magical realism. 1.00

02:36:45.000 Magical realism?

02:36:46.000 Magical realism.

02:36:47.000 What is that?

02:36:48.000 That'd be like Twilight, when magic ingrains in the real world.

02:36:52.000 Oh, that's interesting.

02:36:54.000 Magical realism.

02:36:56.000 Which is an oxymoron.

02:36:57.000 So instead of a fantasy world like Lord of the Rings, they want it in the modern world, a realistic modern world, but with magic.

02:37:05.000 Correct. 1.00

02:37:06.000 Fuck them. 1.00

02:37:06.000 Even though none of the big sellers of all time are that way. 1.00

02:37:10.000 Well, a few of them are.

02:37:11.000 Isn't that funny?

02:37:12.000 Yeah.

02:37:12.000 But just the weird gatekeepers.

02:37:14.000 It's almost like you should write it on your own and not even talk about it, and then get it to where you're done with it, and then just try to pitch it.

02:37:21.000 Right.

02:37:21.000 Well, don't let anybody...

02:37:22.000 I have been pitching it.

02:37:23.000 Oh, you have?

02:37:24.000 Are you done?

02:37:24.000 Oh, yeah.

02:37:25.000 I'm done, and I've got it proofread by...

02:37:28.000 Yeah, I paid for an editor and all that good stuff.

02:37:32.000 Oh, wow.

02:37:33.000 So you self-published the whole thing.

02:37:35.000 No, it's not published.

02:37:36.000 Self-wrote the whole thing and did it all yourself without a deal.

02:37:39.000 Yes, correct.

02:37:41.000 I mean, a lot of times people get contracted.

02:37:43.000 Yeah, no.

02:37:44.000 But I gave up because it was like every day I was getting an email back from someone telling me my kid was ugly.

02:37:52.000 And I couldn't do it and it was just too depressing.

02:37:55.000 Well, maybe you should self-publish.

02:37:57.000 There's a lot of people publish things just on Amazon, right?

02:38:00.000 I have pride.

02:38:01.000 Oh, you need to be with a legit publisher?

02:38:04.000 I do.

02:38:05.000 I would rather wait.

02:38:06.000 I'm actually very young by publishing standards.

02:38:09.000 How old are you?

02:38:11.000 33. Oh, wow.

02:38:12.000 So you've been doing this YouTube page for a long-ass time.

02:38:17.000 So you're like 21, 22?

02:38:18.000 Yeah.

02:38:18.000 Wow.

02:38:19.000 Yeah.

02:38:20.000 That's cool, man.

02:38:21.000 Yeah, it is cool.

02:38:22.000 And I had other jobs most of the time.

02:38:24.000 I only recently started doing the channel full-time.

02:38:27.000 Oh, so now it's your full-time gig?

02:38:29.000 Yeah.

02:38:29.000 How recent?

02:38:30.000 Like two years ago.

02:38:32.000 So you basically like get ad revenue and stuff like that.

02:38:34.000 Well, it's very good, dude.

02:38:36.000 It's fun.

02:38:36.000 It's really fun.

02:38:37.000 Like I said, it makes me feel like old-timey radio, you know, like I'm hearing this spooky story.

02:38:42.000 I've listened to quite a few of them actually in my car.

02:38:45.000 You know, where it's just like you have all the animations and like the Bigfoot one I listened to in my car.

02:38:49.000 Yeah.

02:38:50.000 The one where I was reaching in and hitting the light switch and the laugh.

02:38:54.000 It's fun.

02:38:55.000 It is.

02:38:55.000 It's fun stuff, man.

02:38:56.000 It's scary.

02:38:57.000 Tell everybody your YouTube channel so they can find you.

02:39:00.000 My channel name is Bob Gimlin.

02:39:03.000 B-O-B-G-Y-M-L-A-N. Okay. 1.00

02:39:05.000 And do you have Instagram or nothing?

02:39:08.000 No.

02:39:09.000 Good for you!

02:39:09.000 I don't want it either.

02:39:10.000 Good for you!

02:39:12.000 No.

02:39:12.000 Good for you, man.

02:39:13.000 That's rare amongst young people.

02:39:15.000 I just want to make my videos and that's it.

02:39:18.000 Good.

02:39:19.000 Don't read the comments either.

02:39:20.000 I do.

02:39:21.000 I do all the time.

02:39:22.000 It's so depressing.

02:39:24.000 You don't need to read them.

02:39:26.000 How many subscribers do you have now?

02:39:28.000 I think 239. Yeah, once you get over 100,000, you gotta stop reading them.

02:39:33.000 Yeah.

02:39:34.000 Too many humans.

02:39:35.000 Too many humans.

02:39:36.000 Too many opinions. 0.99

02:39:37.000 Too many crazy people. 0.99

02:39:38.000 Too many mind viruses that can get into your head. 1.00

02:39:42.000 They get you.

02:39:43.000 I enjoy it, though.

02:39:44.000 I think your channel's very good.

02:39:45.000 It's very interesting.

02:39:46.000 I like your calm voice through the whole thing.

02:39:50.000 Yeah.

02:39:51.000 It's really good, dude.

02:39:51.000 Cool.

02:39:52.000 Good stuff.

02:39:52.000 So thanks for being here.

02:39:53.000 Appreciate it.

02:39:54.000 Good luck.

02:39:54.000 Best of luck in the future.

02:39:55.000 Thank you.

02:39:56.000 And good luck with your book.

02:39:56.000 Thank you.

02:39:57.000 All right.

02:39:57.000 Bye, everybody.

02:39:58.000 Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - August 08, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2185 - Bob Gymlan

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