On this week's episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, we have special guest Bob Gimlin on the show to talk about Bigfoot, Stephen King, and the weirdest things you'll ever hear on the internet. Bob is a podcaster, radio host, writer, and podcaster. He's been around for a long time and is a big Stephen King fan, so we thought it'd be fun to get to know him a little bit and talk about some of the weird things he's been up to over the past few years. We talk about how he started his YouTube channel, what he thinks of Bigfoot, and why he thinks Stephen King is one of the most underrated authors of all time. We also talk about what it's like growing up in the 80s and 90s, and what it was like to grow up in a house that didn't have a central locking system. And we talk about a lot of other stuff, too. Enjoy the episode! -Joe Rogan and the Crew Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. All rights reserved. Used by the creator of the music and music by Nordgroove.fm. Thank you for listening and supporting this podcast. If you like what you hear, please leave us a review and/or a rating and review on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you're listening to this podcast, we'd really appreciate it. Thank you. Peace, love, bye, bye. -Jon Sorrentino. Cheers, Jon and the crew at The Joe Rogans Podcast. XOXOz. Jon & the Crew. xoxo -The Crew at The Rogans Jon Rogan. --Jon and the Rogans at The Jerks at the Rogan Podcast Brian and the Jerks @ The Rogan Project -- Tom and the rest of the Crew at the JOB Project at JOGAN PODCAST and the JCR Crew at JOB Podcasts Thanks, Jon & The Crew at THE JOBAN Experience Podcast by THE JOE RODAN EPISODCAST. Also, thank you for coming to JOBEYE Podcast by BOBBY ROGAN AND THE JOYCE AND THE CRY AND THE KELLY JAY AND THE MCCARTO.
00:00:49.000And it's like, that's not the question.
00:00:50.000The question is more complex than that, and I often don't see it brought up that way.
00:00:57.000There's something about these, like, today I listened to the Creepiest Bigfoot story one, that one you had with the one where the guy wrote in a story about the Bigfoot.
00:01:10.000And there's something about those that, like, even if you don't believe in Bigfoot, because I don't necessarily believe in Bigfoot, There's something about it that's so compelling.
00:01:21.000There's something about things that you don't know out there in the woods because you don't have an accurate, a real good account of everything that's in the forest.
00:01:35.000And the mind is always looking for some weirdness.
00:01:38.000The mind is always looking for something that other people don't know about, or perhaps there's like a secret that the sheriffs know about, that they don't share with everybody else.
00:01:46.000Like, why is that so, why does that resonate so much with people?
00:01:50.000With Stephen King movies, like, or Stephen King books?
00:03:08.000It's another one where he was deep in the throes of addiction and just writing this fucking captivating book.
00:03:17.000What he captured is there's this part of our mind that maybe we don't talk about too much.
00:03:23.000Where we always wonder if everybody really knows what's going on and maybe something could happen that people didn't expect Couldn't imagine is real and yet you're confronted by it, you know, and that's like a lot of his stories and You do a really good job of finding that.
00:04:50.000Like when they used to tell stories on like, you know, people would sit, you know, before there was a television, people would sit around the radio.
00:04:59.000Like, that's where War of the Worlds, that famous thing with H.G. Wells where he had a bunch of people believing that we're actually being invaded by Martians.
00:05:24.000So I think my talent, and I'm not even saying I'm talented, but what I have going for me is I am so ready to believe that everything we know is BS. People don't know anything.
00:06:42.000It sucks because they kill all your trees, but so cool to watch this long train of these incredible little beings carrying around these giant pieces of leaf that they cut off.
00:06:55.000And they're all going into their little house, but you wave your hand over them, they have no fucking idea you're there.
00:07:01.000Whatever senses they have, it does not seem to detect threats from things above.
00:07:14.000So if something is happening that's beyond our mission, I think it's hard to perceive it.
00:07:17.000I think there's things that exist that are not perceivable.
00:07:23.000I'm one million percent in that camp too.
00:07:25.000And I think there's heightened states of consciousness that people achieve under duress, extreme stress, fear.
00:07:33.000I think that's one of the reasons why a lot of them happen at nighttime.
00:07:35.000I think nighttime It automatically fills people with a certain sense of anxiety and fear because you don't know what's out there, especially in the woods at nighttime.
00:07:47.000And I think in those times when your mind reaches this unusual chemical state, you occasionally can access these other realities.
00:07:57.000And I think that's where Bigfoot is real.
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00:11:48.000There's something weird going on that is not just as simple as we're the dominant species, we have language, we figured out consciousness, we write books.
00:11:58.000No, I think there's another thing that we just don't, it's not there yet.
00:12:05.000You know, it's just like the original caveman had some grunts and those grunts became words and now those words become huge Libraries filled with books that people have written.
00:12:16.000And I think that's what's going on with human consciousness.
00:12:19.000And I think there's just got to be some reason why this Bigfoot thing has been going on for so goddamn long.
00:12:27.000I think it's an interdimensional existence.
00:12:30.000I think whatever that thing is, I think it comes back and forth.
00:13:42.000Those are the things they're really worried about and those are the things that they see.
00:13:46.000And I've had friends that have had encounters with them and even those encounters seem in some sort of weird way spiritual.
00:13:52.000There's a weird connection with these predators and prey, I think, opens up a part of us that we don't ever experience.
00:14:01.000You don't ever experience a thing that wants to eat you.
00:14:05.000And when you do, I think your biology is like, oh, you remember this?
00:14:09.000And like a switch gets turned on and these genes that we've had inside of our body for hundreds of thousands of years of us running away from predators, They get ignited, and there's this bizarre connection.
00:14:21.000Have you ever looked in the eyes of a predator?
00:15:35.000Like when you lock eyes with that thing, and again, I'm looking at it through a windshield and also binoculars.
00:15:41.000So I had 10 power binoculars and I'm zoomed into its face and I'm seeing it like just looking right at me with this pumpkin head, the big mandible muscles that go over the top of the skull.
00:16:56.000Couldn't care less if you live or die.
00:16:59.000Just all it's doing all day long is searching for something slow.
00:17:04.000Something with a limp, something that fucks up, something that leaves behind a kid, something that, you know, a dog's chained up to a tree.
00:17:13.000And that's all it's doing all day long, and it's just a big monster.
00:17:16.000And if it didn't exist, if a grizzly bear didn't exist, and there was reports of this enormous dog-like creature that eats everything and can kill a moose and lives in the woods, it would be way scarier than Bigfoot.
00:18:41.000But the thing about Predators versus Bigfoot or any of these things, there seems to be...
00:18:52.000The unknown animals, for whatever reason, are the ones that are most perplexing to us, the ones we're most fascinated by.
00:18:58.000Like, an orca, I think, is more fascinating than Bigfoot.
00:19:02.000Like, if Bigfoot was just Gigantopithecus, it was just an enormous orangutan-looking creature that lived in the woods and was omnivorous and ate a bunch of stuff and tried to hide from people, it'd be kind of cool.
00:19:14.000But it wouldn't really be as cool as this insanely intelligent super dolphin That lives in the ocean and, you know, has this strong family bond and, you know...
00:19:24.000Teach their different styles of dispatching prey.
00:19:44.000None of the people that I'm aware of have successfully gotten in the water, so I keep wondering what they would do to the people.
00:19:52.000I don't think there's any record of them killing human beings other than human beings in, like, SeaWorld and stuff like that, but that's just...
00:20:09.000I don't give any mind to the records of shark attacks.
00:20:14.000Well, it is so hard to report a shark attack.
00:20:18.000So if I go swimming and I leave my stuff on the beach and someone calls the police, I didn't come home or whatever, and they find me mangled on the beach the next day, I had a cardiac event and then was scavenged by sharks.
00:21:09.000My buddy Duncan was in Hawaii, either just after, I can't remember, or just before a guy got killed by a shark at the same resort that he was at.
00:21:17.000Some guy was swimming at a tiger shark, just took him out.
00:21:21.000I'm actually working on a shark attack video now.
00:21:25.000There's a lot of untruths people talk about with sharks, I think.
00:22:29.000I mean, I can't be certain, but that would be my opinion.
00:22:34.000Because do you remember when I was a kid, I saw all these shark documentaries that they would show the surfer and then a sea turtle or a seal side by side?
00:22:45.000From the bottom, they don't look the same at all.
00:23:33.000Popov's body was reportedly examined by forensic experts at a morgue in Hurghada who claimed he was disfigured and with many parts missing.
00:23:43.000The shark said to have torn his head off, disfigured his face and separated body parts that were retrieved from the sea.
00:23:50.000It's also reported the beast ripped apart his chest and ate parts of his abdomen and hands.
00:23:54.000See that's not an attempt to predate in my opinion.
00:26:03.000Yeah, like, this kid, probably like 20 years ago now, had his leg ripped off by a bull shark, which is terrifying to think, because it, like, clamped onto his calf, and then it, in shallow water, and his leg came off not where it was bit.
00:26:20.000And I can't recall his name, but that was not in the shark stats as, that was in the shark stats as provoked, because the kid was fishing earlier.
00:26:57.000I go through all the attacks in 2015 and I say like, okay, these are, I think it was like, I hope I'm not wrong about this, but like 11 or 12 attacks that they say are legit attacks because they were unprovoked.
00:28:24.000There's an area in Key West where people fish off the piers, where you have to pull in your fish so fast because the waters are infested with sharks.
00:30:12.000One of the coolest animals that ever has existed and the fact that they're with us right now and you get to see this insane creature that can go without eating for a year, lays completely still in six inches of water and then explodes and pulls a zebra into the water.
00:31:51.000Have you seen that footage of the alligator that grabs that woman's dog and then she tries to go in after it and it gives up the dog and takes her?
00:32:16.000There's this great clip I found a long time ago online about, it's like from the 70s, and it's this woman talking about how this might be the last alligator we ever see.
00:32:26.000Because they're trying to make it seem so endangered.
00:32:41.000I mean, with poison we probably could, but I don't think there's any feasible way to exterminate alligators, even if we tried, which we weren't.
00:33:59.000I don't know how the fuck they even did it, but that's the real concern about if the ocean level rises, like a lot of stuff is super porous.
00:34:28.000One of them is pets, and the other one was there was a research center that got hit by a storm, and they lost a bunch of pythons, which is kind of hilarious.
00:36:10.000Like the sightings and the accounts of animals and the record of animals and when wildlife biologists do a count and they try to get an accurate assessment of what the population numbers are.
00:36:23.000It's down in some preposterous number.
00:39:56.000Yeah, Quetzalcoatlus, the largest known animal to take to the sky.
00:40:01.000A few fossilized, but known from only a few fossilized bones from West Texas.
00:40:06.000Just how such a massive animal got airborne has been mostly a matter of speculation.
00:40:12.000Some think it rocked forward on its wingtips like a vampire bat or that it built up speed by running and flapping like an albatross.
00:40:18.000Or that it didn't fly at all, but according to new research, the mammoth creature probably leaped jumping at least eight feet into the air before lifting off by sweeping its wings.
00:42:40.000They think that people were always here.
00:42:43.000That think people had come from South America, they existed in South America before, they made it up through here, that people lived here, and that we really don't have an accurate account.
00:42:51.000Like to say that I think the idea behind it is Native Americans, if they really did come from Asia, well, they're just immigrants too, right?
00:43:03.000And what they're saying is there's no real evidence of that.
00:43:06.000And in fact, the evidence of human beings being here is so far back before that Before even the Ice Age, that – and this is pretty clear with the footprints that they found – that there's other explanations to how humans got here.
00:43:22.000And perhaps, even though – the problem is there's no other primates here, right?
00:44:50.000So there's an ancient wall in Montana that some people have tried to say is a natural rock formation, and almost anybody looks at it and goes, you're out of your fucking mind.
00:46:42.000In order to make these boulder areas more accessible and highlight their beauty, we created a moderate two-mile trail system.
00:46:49.000Additional features of the trail include 400-year-old Douglas fir trees, the spectacular views of the Ruby Valley 20 miles away, and the Highland Mountain Range sitting at 10,000 feet in elevation.
00:47:27.000I know you don't have an explanation, and this throws your whole understanding of human civilization in North America into the garbage pen.
00:47:35.000He really does throw it in the garbage bin, because what happened?
00:48:06.000Do they have any sort of carbon dating on any of the material that's related to that stone wall where they have some sort of rough estimation of its construction time?
00:48:25.000One of the things that's interesting about the Bigfoot thing is that, for whatever reason, Native American tribes don't have a bunch of fake animals.
00:48:35.000They don't have dragons and werewolves and shit, but they do have Bigfoot.
00:48:42.000And not just one tribe, but many, many, many tribes has a story of this sort of man that lives in the woods.
00:50:35.000Human beings right now are capable of propulsions.
00:50:39.000I think we have drones that operate on a completely different propulsion system than standard rocket fuel, fire pushes out the back and the thing goes forward very fast like a jet engine.
00:51:09.000But then why would they disclose themselves?
00:51:10.000Well, I think they found it, and they reported it, and they did what they had to do, and they didn't really talk about it publicly for many years later.
00:51:19.000You know, there wasn't a big news story.
00:51:23.000Commander David Fravor, when I spoke to him, first of all, the guy is as rock-solid a military man as you're ever going to talk to.
00:51:33.000Just by the book, disciplined fighter pilot.
00:51:40.000This guy's not making up stories about other shit.
00:51:44.000And when he describes this thing and what they saw, and then there's multiple pilots that see it, and then there's a visual.
00:51:52.000They have video of this thing moving off at an insane rate of speed.
00:51:55.000They have radar imagery that shows it goes from above 50,000 feet above sea level to like 50 in a second.
00:52:01.000They don't know how the fuck it did it.
00:52:04.000It goes to their cat point, so it leaves them once they see it, and it jets off to this point, this predetermined coordinate where they were supposed to meet up as part of their training run.
00:52:15.000So how the fuck does it know their cat point?
00:52:21.000San Diego's a big military area, right?
00:52:23.000And it's where they do testing, and it's where they were doing the training runs with those jets.
00:52:27.000That's why they saw it in the first place.
00:52:29.000If I was going to have a thing, and I was going to test it, and I was going to test it, I would want to know, like, how much do our equipment show?
00:52:45.000Ryan Graves, who's another very reputable fighter jet pilot, he had his encounters Yeah.
00:53:14.000Right, so it's a black cube inside some sort of a translucent circle that multiple fighter pilots have reported.
00:53:22.000And the idea of some sort of gravity distorting thing, one of the features of that they think would be it would look very strange.
00:53:33.000Like it would look very strange to you, like what you see.
00:53:36.000And if we have some sort of a gravity distorting drone, That operates on a gravity propulsion system, like somehow manipulates gravity so it can move at insane rates of speed.
00:55:46.000And we're assuming there's some kind of a drone or something.
00:55:50.000But I think if you go to 1989 and they have those things, and then if you have all the money in the world, which they essentially do, they could print money, you have black ops projects, you have things that we, you know, because of national security interests, we have no idea what they're doing or how they're doing it.
00:56:07.000And then you get some of the best physicists in the world, some of the best propulsion experts in the world, and you throw an ungodly amount of money At this problem every year for 30 plus years.
00:56:40.000So if these guys were doing that and they were funding this secret military project that they kept from Congress, they kept from – I mean, who knows who's qualified to be able to see these things.
00:56:53.000But if I had something like that, I would – that's the best cover story in the world.
00:56:57.000We have observed crafts that are not from this world.
00:57:30.000And we would assume that if an advanced civilization was interested in studying something, we are some of the most fascinating creatures that have ever existed, at least our understanding on Earth.
00:58:26.000And that these chimpanzees and lower primates started experimenting with psilocybin.
00:58:31.000And then over the course of a couple of million years, they developed language, they developed this ability to hunt better, fashion tools, more creativity, glossolalia, attaching sounds to objects and That makes sense.
00:58:45.000Some sort of telepathy, increased visual acuity that does come from low dose psilocybin use.
00:58:52.000That seems to me like that makes a lot of sense because it coincides with climate change.
00:58:59.000When McKenna did this whole theory about it, one of the things he talked about is that the exact time that the rainforest recede into grasslands because of this change in the climate is the time where these animals emerge, start walking on two legs,
00:59:15.000and then start eating mushrooms, he thinks, and then two million years later become people.
00:59:35.000And they said, let's fuck with that DNA. Let's make a labradoodle.
00:59:42.000I don't think people think big enough in regards to that kind of thing.
00:59:48.000Because, like, if we had the technology to do what allegedly the aliens, alleged aliens do, we would be doing all sorts of crazy stuff all the time.
01:00:00.000If we could introduce intelligent life into a planet, if there was life on a planet and we could introduce our DNA into these lower primates and make them more like us, you don't think we would do it?
01:00:15.000Yeah, I mean, we monkey with all kinds of things all the time.
01:00:17.000We're always messing around with creatures' DNA. And there's a story that we talked about recently during World War I in Russia, where Russia was experimenting with hybridizing human beings and chimpanzees for soldiers.
01:00:33.000They switched brains with an orangutan and a human, and I guess the human with the orangutan brain never regained consciousness, but evidently the human brain in the orangutan did regain consciousness.
01:01:13.000It's just a visual artifact of cameras where the video cameras, they catch these things moving fast, close up, and it leaves a trail.
01:01:24.000And so there was this famous group of people that thought that there was these things that were flying around faster than we can see and that they were some sort of aliens that were amongst us.
01:02:35.000I think when extreme things happen, you know, we're talking about the levels of reality being somewhat permeable under extreme situations.
01:02:45.000What is more extreme than like a murder or a massacre?
01:02:49.000And those are the places where people tend to see ghosts, these horrific, I think, I think the Earth has a memory.
01:02:57.000And I think occasionally, under the right circumstances, with the right amount of anxiety, the right amount of distractions and the heightened sense that you get from being in the dark and being afraid, you can access these memories.
01:04:12.000But whatever that figment of your imagination creates it creates the exact same experience as if you encountered some other extremely Potent life form that exists in some strange some strange form that it's not tangible It's not like it doesn't doesn't register with you as something that it's not a normal it's not like a mug of water You know,
01:04:40.000it's a thing that doesn't exist in your reality and it's communicating with you It's exactly the same experience as if it's an imaginary thing or if it's a real thing.
01:05:34.000I mean, those guys were killing people left and right.
01:05:36.000And if there's ever going to be a place where you're going to see...
01:05:40.000The memory of some horrific experience that expresses itself in some sort of a spiritual form, some sort of a ghost-like wraith-type form, that's the place.
01:06:50.000It is, except YouTubing has a more direct path to success.
01:06:56.000With YouTube, all you have to do is be – you have this platform that is like the biggest video platform on earth, and it's available to everybody.
01:07:06.000As much as people complain about YouTube, I think YouTube is fucking amazing.
01:09:59.000It's also your own stem cells, so your body's not going to reject it.
01:10:02.000And, you know, they're looking at animals that regenerate, like there's certain reptiles that, you know, amphibians, they chop their legs off, they grow new legs, lobsters, a lot of animals do that.
01:10:14.000And so they're trying to figure out, like, what is that gene?
01:10:18.000And how can we switch that on in people?
01:10:21.000So, like, people that have had their legs amputated grow their legs back, which is fucking crazy.
01:10:49.000You know, with Neuralink and a lot of these new technologies, they think that they're going to be able to send signals to your limbs and allow your limbs to bypass the severed spinal cord.
01:13:18.000We're putting a rat's head on the back of a mouse.
01:13:20.000Like, we're doing all kinds of bizarre experiments.
01:13:23.000And if they knew how to do it, instead of like, we're kind of at the rudimentary stages of this kind of stuff...
01:13:30.000If they knew how to successfully implant their genetic material and hyper-advance a lower primate and make it, in a short period of time, much smarter than any other primate on Earth, which is what we are, we're so different than everything else that's remotely related to us.
01:13:48.000The idea that somehow or another we exist in this form and our ancient ancestors exist in the same form.
01:13:58.000Like, the really ancient ancestors, we branched off of a...
01:14:32.000Well, I was having a conversation with a woman yesterday, Sarah Amari Walker, who is a scientist, a physicist, and she was talking about this thing called assembly theory.
01:14:52.000What she was talking about was like, what are the actual steps that are necessary in order for life to be created and evolve?
01:15:02.000And if you think about human beings, we're the one animal on this planet that seems to have the same sort of impact as invasive species do.
01:16:15.000I think nature probably balanced us out when we developed cities, right?
01:16:21.000Because what's the byproduct of cities?
01:16:23.000One of the byproducts of cities is it's expensive to live there, so a lot of times women get jobs.
01:16:31.000And women don't want to give up their career to have a family, so they hold it off until much later.
01:16:37.000And if they have a child at all, they have less kids than people who start having kids when they're 18 or 20. Right.
01:16:43.000And so this is sort of a function of having these extremely dense environments where people are stacked up with each other and then competition inside that city-like structure is intense and financial competition is intense and women engage in it as well and it lowers the population.
01:17:04.000That happens to almost all westernized societies, first world societies, they experience a drop in birth rate.
01:17:47.000And we're so different than every other animal in how much different we look from each other, the wide variety of sizes we have of people.
01:17:58.000You know, it's just—it seems to me like— I've thought about that before, though.
01:18:03.000Like, what if seven gorillas that look exactly the same to us are all, like, hyper—like, what if—yeah, like, they might all look really differentiated to themselves.
01:19:17.000I mean, that manipulation could be environmental, like the reason why people that move to Northern Europe develop very pale skin because their body has to act as sort of like a solar reflector to create vitamin D because you don't get it like the way you would get it in Africa where we originally started.
01:19:35.000So we're kind of like a manipulated animal in that regard, at least our appearance.
01:19:43.000But that would make sense if somebody fucked with us.
01:19:45.000Especially if they made a bunch of different kinds.
01:19:57.000The Anunnaki came here and they manipulated with humans.
01:19:59.000Then you look at the Sumerian tablets and you see the images of the giant Anunnaki guy who has the monkey person sitting on his lap with the tail.
01:20:11.000It's like a 5,000-year-old tablet of this guy who is this enormous person with this beautiful garb on, and he's got this person sitting on his lap, this small person with a tail.
01:21:22.000That looks like a double helix DNA. That's exactly what it looks like.
01:21:26.000And that's the connection that he makes with all this stuff.
01:21:30.000And a lot of people disagree with him.
01:21:31.000I should just point out, if you're interested in this stuff, There's a whole website called SitchinIsWrong.com and I've read that too.
01:21:39.000And I appreciate when people have varying opinions, right?
01:21:43.000But there's something about Sitchin's stuff that is very compelling to me and one of the big reasons is there's a lot of mysteries about the understanding that the Sumerians had that sort of defies conventional logic.
01:22:00.000Like they had a detailed map of the solar system In, you know, 6,000 years ago in these clay tablets.
01:22:07.000So they have the sun in the center and then they have all of our planets in the proper order.
01:22:12.000In the proper, not the exact size, but this one's bigger than that one, that one's bigger than this one, and it's depicted on a clay tablet.
01:22:19.000And you look at it and you go, okay, what the fuck is that?
01:23:50.000So these people were writing about the story of humanity, and they're writing it down on these clay tablets, and it seems to be some bizarre story of visitors.
01:24:07.000A lot of them have wings like that one that shows the eagle.
01:24:16.000But also, wouldn't that represent some sort of a spaceship, like something that can actually fly?
01:24:21.000If you—the only thing that you saw that could fly were birds, and you were trying to represent something as something that flies, you would, you know— Yeah, didn't in the Bible, the Jewish Bible, the Talmud cloud get translated to—oh,
01:24:58.000I could have sworn that it was like, in the Bible it says, the pillar of fire and a cloud, and that's what the Israelites followed out of the desert.
01:25:40.000Well, then there's the Ezekiel story in the Bible, which seems very much like some sort of a UFO encounter, like the way you would describe a UFO encounter if there's nothing that flew and you didn't understand what advanced technology would be if you saw it.
01:25:55.000The Vimanas and the ancient Hindu texts.
01:26:05.000Life is out there everywhere in the universe.
01:26:09.000It kind of makes sense that someone would visit us as we're emerging, as life is becoming more and more intelligent over the course of millions and millions of years.
01:26:20.000And they find this one particular animal that's very similar to what they used to be at one point in time.
01:26:26.000And they just say, let's speed this along.
01:26:39.000It might also be a feature of the universe that that's what intelligent life ultimately does, which is why we want to monkey around with these monkeys in the first place and take their heads and put it on other bodies.
01:28:10.000And then other tomatoes you planted like a couple of weeks later, like, oh, those won't be doing time.
01:28:15.000So if you were planting humans on a planet, you'd go, well, they need a couple million years before they get their shit together, but they've started to develop nuclear bombs.
01:28:23.000That's why they hang out over nuke bases.
01:32:56.000You know, you've seen those animals, wildebeest trying to make it across the river, and then the crocs show up and just start snatching them.
01:33:03.000I mean, some of them make it through, and some of them die.
01:39:17.000No, but I know Kathy Turner, a Dr. Kathy Turner, who wrote Taken into the Fringe and Masquerade of Angels, and she said the only thing that's consistent throughout all abduction reports is that the aliens are fascinated with the concept of the soul.
01:39:33.000So I assume that works into whatever you're talking about with Bob Lazar.
01:39:36.000Bob Lazar said one of the more bizarre things that he found out when he was working at Area S4 was that they had this very thick sort of document on all that they knew so far about aliens.
01:39:56.000And one of the things was it went back to religion.
01:40:00.000See if you can find Bob Lazar talking about it so I don't butcher this.
01:40:04.000But I believe what he was saying was that they think of us as containers for souls.
01:40:10.000Now let's imagine, before we show the Bob Lazar thing, let's imagine how that would happen.
01:40:15.000Now let's imagine that human beings, we are biological life, and so therefore we have what we call a soul, and then we create digital life.
01:40:27.000And maybe Maybe this digital life, maybe artificial creations are what we're seeing in these gray aliens.
01:40:37.000Maybe they are some sort of hybrid or some sort of...
01:40:42.000Some sort of creation that's outside of evolution, outside of natural adaptation.
01:40:49.000And they look at us as the source, like they can't breed anymore.
01:40:57.000Maybe for them to exist, maybe they need an actual soul.
01:41:04.000And to think of us as a farm for souls.
01:41:08.000I really do think that we're a farm of some kind to them.
01:41:11.000Because it's funny because people always say, like, they hang out over nuke sites so that we don't bomb ourselves.
01:41:17.000And it's like, sure, but not from a compassion standpoint.
01:41:22.000It's like if the farmer doesn't Protect his cow because he wants it to find some sort of spiritual thing.
01:41:29.000And that's why I take issue with like Stephen Greer and all those people who are like, you just need to expand your consciousness and then you see it.
01:44:28.000But when she gets in front of a camera, she locks up and she's just not good at communicating.
01:44:33.000And she tries to go off script and she...
01:44:36.000You know, whenever you're talking in front of a large group of people, there's a bizarre stress and pressure that really constricts your ability to communicate.
01:44:54.000And now imagine you and me, but we're in front of 15,000 people that are hanging on our every word, and you're kind of free-balling, and maybe you really haven't even done the research.
01:45:03.000Like, someone's asking, how are you going to fix the economy?
01:45:13.000Well, that's so obvious when the passage of time is significant and the significance of the passage of time is significant because of the passage of time.
01:46:08.000And when we all sing happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas and wish each other Merry Christmas, these children are not going to have a Merry Christmas.
01:51:14.000What does it mean to be a fact checker?
01:51:15.000The problem with facts is a lot of them are very subjective.
01:51:17.000You can find one small inconsistency or one...
01:51:21.000You could phrase a question in a certain way and have your answer false in a different way because you're just finding some nitpicky way to look at things.
01:51:41.000This is what it says, who picked the new flag.
01:51:43.000State Emblems Redesign Commission tasked with choosing the new flag and seal made its final selections this week, and the new design will debut next year.
01:51:53.000It follows four months of meetings, many-spirited debates, and 2,500 submissions from the public sharing their ideas for the new symbols.
01:52:19.000There's concern with the scene depicted on the old flag, which many found offensive.
01:52:24.000First adopted in 1957, the flag showed a white settler tilling land as an indigenous man rides horseback.
01:52:31.000Indigenous members of the State Emblem Redesign Commission said it was harmful to their communities and promoted the erasure of their people from the land.
01:53:24.000Horses originated in North America, including zebras.
01:53:27.000All of them originated in North America.
01:53:29.000Then they were wiped out and they had been introduced into Asia and Africa and all these other continents and then reintroduced back to America.
01:53:51.000There's certainly different segments, different North American tribes that were much better, including right here where we are, the Comanche.
01:53:59.000The Comanche were notoriously good at raising horses and was part of how fierce they were.
01:54:41.000When you hear discussions of things that are like openly Marxist philosophies, when you hear talk about equal outcomes, and not just equal opportunity, but that we all need to arrive at the same place, equal outcome talk,
01:54:57.000there's only one way they can do that, and it's by forcing you.
01:55:01.000Well, it's by everyone having nothing.
01:55:49.000It's nuts that people don't learn from history and it's nuts that people who subscribe to this leftist ideology have this very distorted version of humans and how capitalism works and what's the benefits of it.
01:56:02.000I think there's a lot of parts of progressive ideology and philosophy that could be applied to society to make things better.
01:56:11.000I think if we funded more things the same way we fund The fire department, the police force, these are kind of socialist things, right?
01:56:19.000Everybody gets access to the fire department.
01:56:21.000It's a part of being in the community.
01:56:55.000The problem is these people that have this idea of equal outcome, this is the worst version of all these leftist ideologies.
01:57:04.000The worst version is open borders, everybody should have everything, and then equal distribution of it.
01:57:10.000And then what always comes with that is they unarm the citizens.
01:57:13.000And if they don't unarm the citizens, you can't get away with any of this stuff.
01:57:17.000But as soon as you have – no one has guns other than the police, everybody is forced to comply.
01:57:21.000And if the army and the police are the only ones that get to tell you what to do and they take orders from the government and the government is a communist dictatorship, you're fucked.
01:57:30.000And that has never been – More evident than in all the versions of it that you can see in current world politics now where a government has been taken over by a communist regime.
01:57:53.000There's just terrible government overreach.
01:57:57.000You're seeing it now in England where people are getting arrested for tweets.
01:58:01.000England, you know, people talk about Soviet Russia, like how bad Russia is in terms of cracking down on thought police and cracking down on bad tweets and things like that.
01:58:14.000I think the statistics are I think there's something like 4,000 people have been arrested in England for thought crimes where they've said things online that people find to be a hateful thing or a problematic thing.
01:58:42.000But the fact that they're comfortable with finding people who've said something that they disagree with and putting them in a fucking cage in England in 2024 is really wild.
01:59:09.000And in our lifetime, we've seen that get moved, right?
01:59:12.000So it used to be if a guy thought he was a woman and his name was Doug and you grew up with Doug and all of a sudden Doug wants to be called Debbie, if you call him Doug— It's no big deal.
01:59:24.000Like, yeah, maybe you're being rude to call him Doug, but it's not a hate crime, okay?
01:59:29.000Well, now a lot of people think it's a hate crime, and that got you banned from Twitter for life.
01:59:34.000So if you deadnamed someone on the old Twitter, you were banned for life.
02:00:37.000But like I saw so many people putting it on like a shield.
02:00:40.000It's like it doesn't – it's not a – Not only that, you're using surgical masks.
02:00:45.000Those are designed to keep people from spitting into open wounds and dropping particles out of their mouth into people's surgeries.
02:00:53.000We're so susceptible to manipulation and that's what's really scary about the time that we're living in because we have so much access to information but yet so many people are willing to put the blinders on and go full steam ahead with whatever their team wants.
02:01:08.000There was this ridiculous video, the other day, comics for Kamala.
02:01:41.000The most egregious thing I've seen recently, you know, after everything of the past eight years, nine years, it's hard to get pissed off genuinely anymore.
02:01:50.000But is now all the left people saying that Trump is afraid to debate Trump or that Trump is afraid to debate Kamala.
02:01:57.000And I saw this meme of Trump is like the cowardly lion.
02:02:00.000Everyone's like, he's never going to show up.
02:02:02.000It's like you said the exact same thing about Biden.
02:02:49.000You know, before anybody started calling him an anti-vaxxer, which I thought he was, too.
02:02:53.000I thought he was this nut, this, like, conspiracy theorist nut, until I read his book.
02:02:58.000I read the real Anthony Fauci, and I'm like, what is— How much of this is real?
02:03:04.000Because if it's all real, this is fucking insane and we live in a world where we're being manipulated by these health organizations that are being paid by the pharmaceutical drug interests and these pharmaceutical drug companies are pumping these products out into the population and telling us that we need them and then making insane amounts of money and then Also,
02:03:26.000the government is in on it, and also they share a patent with Moderna, and also they share profits, and there's 700 million dollars, 700...
02:03:36.000I mean, however much money was made, whatever the number is that these guys made off of these products, like, this is, all of it is fucking crazy.
02:03:45.000There's the revolving door between the CDC and the FDA and then these pharmaceutical drug companies, so the people that make the regulations, Yeah.
02:04:17.000It cracked me up how a lot of the people on the right started to despise the vaccine and then Trump at the same time was like, it's my vaccine, you guys.
02:04:44.000You know, I think he took it, which is crazy, too, because the guy survived COVID. He got COVID before the vaccine was developed, and then he still took the vaccine, which is, like, literally illogical.
02:04:54.000It flies in the face of science and what we understand about the immune system.
02:05:57.000So it says 3,395 arrests have been made by 29 UK police forces for Section 127 offenses, which is used for cases of online abuse.
02:06:09.000According to the article, 1,696 people were subsequently charged.
02:06:14.000Section 127 offenses cover harassment that takes place via electronic communications network and is not limited to social media posts, harassment via email or other forms of online communication.
02:06:42.000So this was all from like 2017. Yeah, but they've been doing it for a while, yeah.
02:06:45.000I'm looking up and trying to find, like, I can't find any updated information that says that this is still continuing to happen, except for three guys were recently arrested for, like, the Leeds riots because they were posting violent stuff on Twitter or something like that.
02:07:02.000I know there was one guy who was posting stickers.
02:07:06.000He got arrested for posting stickers that they said were offensive.
02:07:14.000What we have with the First Amendment, freedom of speech.
02:08:27.000When those heads of universities were getting grilled and they were talking about whether or not saying death to the Jews is harassment at MIT or at Harvard rather.
02:08:40.000And she was saying, well, if it's actionable.
02:08:44.000So you're saying you actually got to wait till they do it.
02:08:47.000You got to wait till they commit genocide before it's a problem.
02:08:53.000But it's also – it's like – this is the consequences of having these rigid ideologies where you think that your side has to be correct and the other side is incorrect.
02:09:06.000And if you think, you know, free, free Palestine, this is what we're into.
02:09:09.000So, like, the people that are the most radical that are pushing that the furthest, like the Antifa of that organization, are the death of the Jews people.
02:09:16.000They're the ones that are going to take, like, remember during the George Floyd riots and the Antifa riots, like, people on the left sided with violent mobs and tried to gaslight you on what they did.
02:09:27.000They said they're mostly peaceful demonstrations.
02:09:29.000As the camera's panning around trying not to get something engulfed in flames.
02:10:40.000And that's one of the most disturbing...
02:10:43.000What I'm trying to say is that if you're trying to solve the problem of police overstep, looking at it through a racial lens isn't going to solve it because that's not the problem.
02:11:14.000And then one thing sets it off and then there's this narrative.
02:11:17.000And then there's through social media, you get all these examples that you see over and over and over again of white cops shooting black people.
02:11:24.000And so people have it in their mind that Black people are unjustly harassed and are attacked more than anyone else.
02:11:34.000And that's why that professor at Harvard who released that study showing that there is not a difference, there's not a disparity, a racial disparity in the way black people are assaulted or shot by cops versus white people.
02:12:26.000If what we're talking about when we talk about, like, save our souls, like, that we think about...
02:12:35.000Having, like, your essence is negative and evil.
02:12:39.000And that negative evil essence, they're trying to minimize the amount of those.
02:12:45.000Like, if your crop has, like, a disease, if, like, some sort of a thing, some fungus is growing on your crop, you're going to destroy most of the crop.
02:12:55.000Like, what do we have to do to protect the crop when we give the crop religion?
02:12:59.000Let's keep these mind viruses from destroying us.
02:13:05.000Let's keep these people from doing things that are unethical and immoral because they actually do damage the thing that we need the most that's inside of it.
02:13:21.000My roommate, and this was at my college, Ripon College, we were on this place that's basically just a balcony, and we just saw, it was like 3am, we drank a lot that night,
02:13:39.000and we're having our last cigarette of the night.
02:13:41.000And we just saw one triangle with red dots appear way in the distance and it was by a radio tower which I only mention because it's easy to say then you saw the radio tower but it's like no the radio tower was clear and then we watched it for like two minutes and then another one appeared right next to it and then they both disappeared.
02:14:05.000And it wasn't really a big deal at the time.
02:16:01.000The Mexico City UFO footage is interesting because it's in Mexico City and you see this thing flying and you see it like in the distance as it's going past these buildings and you're like, what the fuck is that?
02:17:31.000Negatives of the picture dubbed the Calvin photographer originally handed over to Scotland's Daily Record newspaper, who in turn passed them to the Ministry of Defense.
02:17:41.000However, they were never shown to the public.
02:17:45.000After decades of research, photos uncovered by academic and journalist Dr. David Clarke.
02:17:51.000Dr. Clarke reached out to – Clarke is spelled in two different ways right there.
02:17:57.000See, he's got an E in the first one and then afterwards, no E. As the story goes, Dr. Clarke reached out to Craig Lindsay, former Royal Air Force press officer.
02:18:07.000Who had kept a copy of the photo after the story was looked into back in the 90s.
02:18:12.000Lindsey even kept the original envelope containing the Calvin photos in his possession.
02:19:44.000It's a waste of time, you know, because if there's no real evidence in front of you, you're just sitting around here spinning your wheels, having stupid conversations about it.
02:22:28.000Yeah, and then, strangely enough, same thing happened to her husband.
02:22:32.000He remembered that he'd been abducted all of his life, and evidently they told her something like, why do you think you guys married each other?
02:22:40.000And the implication was that it was just convenient for the aliens.
02:22:56.000And she just has this sweet, she's not old, but kind of an old lady voice.
02:23:00.000And she talks extensively about how all these abductees have terrible traumas left from it, even if they have positive memories of the abductions.
02:23:12.000And that a lot of them have terrible issues of cancer, and then she dies of cancer everywhere in 1998. I only discovered her a little while ago, and it was very disturbing stuff,
02:23:32.000Tucker Carlson seems to believe that they've always been here.
02:23:36.000He doesn't think they're coming here from another planet.
02:23:38.000I think that that might be more likely.
02:23:41.000He thinks that they're in the Bible, that this is something that's a feature of human history, that people have always discussed these beings, these things that are with us.
02:23:51.000And that somehow or another they're able to evade our detection on a regular basis.
02:24:26.000First of all, you have to think that a lot of those stories were told for hundreds if not thousands of years before they were ever written down.
02:25:18.000A time with no science, no real understanding of what – the forces there at work in terms of like natural selection and all the different things, space and all the things that we're aware of today, the things that we do know.
02:25:33.000And imagine these people are writing down these stories about the origins of humanity and the origins of mankind.
02:25:38.000And I think there's some truth to what they're writing.
02:25:52.000If I was going to tell you the story of the Big Bang, and then you told other people for like a thousand years, and then finally somebody writes it down, what do you think that would look like?
02:26:01.000Probably in the beginning there was light.
02:27:04.000Attempt to answer the question, what was before the Big Bang, led last year's Nobel Prize winner Roger Penrose to an interesting cosmological concept in which our universe is just one link in an endless chain of predecessors and descendants.
02:27:59.000So civilization doesn't collapse, so the stock market doesn't crash, so that we don't, you know, pick off World War III. Did you mean humans are giving us a slow trickle?
02:28:18.000And her take on this is very similar to what Tucker Carlson's saying.
02:28:24.000And one of the things that she said with talking to people, especially Gary Nolan from Stanford, these people that have examined materials, that these materials, like whatever the fuck this stuff is made out of, is not something that we make.
02:28:38.000Or if we did make it, it would cost...
02:28:41.000Hundreds of billions of dollars or some, whatever the number is, some insane amount of money to create these composites, whatever their metallurgy examinations of this stuff is.
02:28:53.000And that they describe these things as donations.
02:28:57.000These crashed crafts, like a donation.
02:29:01.000Like that this race of super intelligent beings, hey, figure this out.
02:29:06.000Like, you know, you leave a 57 Camaro in the fucking, or a 57 Chevy in a parking lot somewhere, and then people stumble upon it and go, what is this?
02:29:36.000Like, Bob Lazar said that one of the, in this, all these classified documents that related to these UFOs, he said one of them, they said, was from an archaeological dig.
02:31:11.000If you wonder, if these people are saying that their memories are erased, and then you do have an encounter, or you do have a sighting of a thing...
02:31:20.000So I never gave that any thought whatsoever until I saw Gary Nolan's...
02:32:04.000But it's interesting to me that these things always happen while people are sleeping, or they always happen at night, which is when the dream state happens.
02:32:31.000What is that like what is this thing this different than any other sort of imaginary thing that you experience in your life all the imaginary things that you experience in your life are like They're easily written off for the most part,
02:32:47.000but dreams seem Hyper realistic sometimes they sure do and you have to remember.
02:32:52.000Oh, this is a dream I had one last night where I woke up and I was like, oh, it's a dream like what the fuck is that about how weird and They seem like real experiences while they're happening.
02:33:02.000And if you're having dreams that seem like real experiences and they're recurring and they're involving extraterrestrials and you've had this sighting and there is this understanding that they could manipulate what you remember and don't remember,
02:33:18.000You can kind of mindfuck yourself into thinking you're getting abducted.
02:34:25.000Sometimes people have a very bad version of themselves from memories.
02:34:30.000Maybe they have a lot of self-hate or a lot of self-doubt, and then they connect these memories to themselves and they distort themselves and make themselves even worse.
02:35:06.000If it just cripples you emotionally, it doesn't do any good.
02:35:09.000Well, it's just fascinating that this animal, this calculating animal, it's like constantly forming images of what's real and what's not real.
02:35:18.000And, you know, what it is and it's looking at itself in some sort of a strange way and trying to examine how it fits into the world.
02:37:14.000It's almost like you should write it on your own and not even talk about it, and then get it to where you're done with it, and then just try to pitch it.