The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2189 - Dennis Quaid

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00:00:12.000 Nice to meet you, man.

00:00:13.000 You too, man.

00:00:14.000 Really.

00:00:14.000 It's been a pleasure.

00:00:14.000 I've seen so many of your fucking movies.

00:00:16.000 It's always weird when you meet someone that you've seen so many times in movies. 1.00

00:00:20.000 Yeah.

00:00:21.000 It's like, all right, there he is.

00:00:22.000 A real person.

00:00:22.000 Yeah, there they are.

00:00:25.000 I didn't know you released a gospel album, though.

00:00:30.000 Yeah, last year.

00:00:32.000 That's wild.

00:00:33.000 Yeah, it's called Fallen, a gospel record for sinners, because I wanted the biggest possible audience.

00:00:40.000 Gospel record for sinners?

00:00:42.000 Yeah.

00:00:43.000 How long have you been singing gospel?

00:00:45.000 Well, you know, basically I grew up in the Baptist Church, and so it's five songs that I grew up with, and it's five songs that I wrote before and during the making of the record.

00:00:56.000 It's kind of like my spiritual journey, I guess.

00:00:58.000 That's the way it turned out in the end.

00:01:00.000 My wife, she put the order together, and that's what it seems to be, kind of my journey in life.

00:01:09.000 Was this something that you had thought about for a while, or did it just kind of...

00:01:15.000 Yeah, I wrote this song called On My Way to Heaven, and I wrote it for my mom to let her know that I was okay after I got out of rehab for cocaine in 1990. Then I wrote Fallen,

00:01:35.000 which is kind of like taken from, remember that movie Thunder Road with Robert Mitchum?

00:01:41.000 It's kind of like in that vein or that kind of feel to it.

00:01:45.000 And there's this highway called the Devil's Backbone up near Bandera.

00:01:50.000 And so it's a ride with the devil.

00:01:54.000 And you wind up getting left for dead on the side of the road. 0.99

00:01:59.000 So this was just something that you felt like, like, fuck it, I've done everything else. 0.94

00:02:03.000 Why not do a gospel album? 0.99

00:02:05.000 Yeah, you know, I've recorded.

00:02:07.000 I've always been a songwriter.

00:02:09.000 I got a guitar when I was 12 years old.

00:02:11.000 My grandfather bought me a Western Auto.

00:02:14.000 It's a great place to buy guitars.

00:02:17.000 And...

00:02:18.000 You know, I realized I was never going to shred a guitar, so a songwriting became like a defense, you know, something you could bring to a band.

00:02:28.000 So I've always done it.

00:02:30.000 But I got this offer from Gaither because Bill Gaither had heard this song, On My Way to Heaven, asked me to do a gospel record.

00:02:42.000 I said, yeah.

00:02:43.000 Wow.

00:02:44.000 Yeah, it was a great experience, really.

00:02:46.000 And on my way to heaven, in fact, Tanya Tucker heard it, and she called me up out of the blue.

00:02:54.000 I hadn't seen her like in 30 years and said she wanted to do it.

00:02:59.000 So I said, okay.

00:03:00.000 And then she called me 15 minutes later.

00:03:02.000 And she said, Chris Christopherson wants to do it.

00:03:05.000 And I said, wow.

00:03:10.000 And Brandi Carlisle's doing backup singing on it.

00:03:15.000 And myself, and we're going to put that out this year as a single.

00:03:20.000 Wow, that's awesome.

00:03:22.000 Yeah.

00:03:22.000 Chris is just the greatest human being.

00:03:24.000 I love that guy.

00:03:25.000 I love him.

00:03:26.000 One of the highwaymen.

00:03:27.000 Yeah?

00:03:28.000 Come on.

00:03:29.000 Yeah.

00:03:29.000 No kidding.

00:03:31.000 Wow.

00:03:31.000 So you were telling me that you got Hollywood in the 70s?

00:03:36.000 Yeah, I went out there.

00:03:39.000 I was born in Houston, you know, and grew up there.

00:03:42.000 And I was in acting class.

00:03:46.000 Mr. Pickett, we always bring him up because so many people actually started working.

00:03:51.000 My brother was...

00:03:53.000 You know, his student as well.

00:03:55.000 And my brother was already out there in California and he had been nominated for the last detail and stuff.

00:04:02.000 And so I kind of realized, hey, you can actually do this stuff, you know, get paid for it.

00:04:08.000 And I went out there at 75 and, you know, just driven and got an agent after about a year.

00:04:17.000 Wow.

00:04:18.000 Did you have any previous acting experience?

00:04:21.000 Yeah, in college.

00:04:24.000 I wasn't serious about it in high school.

00:04:26.000 I was going to be a veterinarian.

00:04:28.000 That's what I wanted to be.

00:04:30.000 Really?

00:04:31.000 Yeah.

00:04:32.000 I was a vet's assistant up in East Texas.

00:04:35.000 I'd spent summers up in East Texas, Jacksonville, Frankston.

00:04:42.000 I worked for a vet when I was 14, 15, and that's what I was going to do until one day we did like a house call out to this guy's farm to castrate his horse.

00:04:56.000 And the farmer didn't want to sit out there in the field and wait for him to wake up from a full anesthetic.

00:05:02.000 So they only gave him half of it and cinched his legs up like this.

00:05:09.000 And that horse stood up on two legs and it was just – man, it was horrific.

00:05:14.000 And that kind of – I think that's what changed my mind.

00:05:19.000 Maybe I should be an actor.

00:05:20.000 Yeah.

00:05:22.000 And I'll play a veterinarian.

00:05:24.000 Yeah, I'm sure the horse was not enjoying that.

00:05:27.000 No.

00:05:28.000 Yeah, that's got to be a bad feeling.

00:05:29.000 Also, as a man, I don't want to do that.

00:05:32.000 I didn't do that to my dog.

00:05:33.000 I don't do that to any of my dogs.

00:05:34.000 No, you can get that done for free in California.

00:05:38.000 Right.

00:05:40.000 Even if you're a person. 1.00

00:05:42.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:05:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:05:43.000 Very different in the 70s, huh? 1.00

00:05:46.000 Yeah.

00:05:46.000 Yeah, you went through, like, 70s in Hollywood must have been a weird experience, man.

00:05:51.000 Oh, it was fantastic.

00:05:53.000 It was amazing, man.

00:05:54.000 That whole era of the 70s, you know, which started with Bonnie and Clyde and Easy Rider...

00:06:02.000 Great films.

00:06:03.000 Yeah, but the French New Wave is what they called it, kind of more handheld, grittier, and it was the return of the anti-hero and the rebel hero, because Hollywood had lost touch with their audience.

00:06:20.000 They were making movies like Toby Tyler and these bloated musicals, which...

00:06:26.000 And so it became like the inmates had taken over the asylum.

00:06:32.000 There was really new, exciting stuff getting done, like Badlands and The Conversation, which led to The Godfather.

00:06:43.000 And that was, I think, the golden age of filmmaking.

00:06:48.000 Well, certainly some amazing films came out of that era.

00:06:51.000 Yeah.

00:06:51.000 It's just seeing Los Angeles today and imagining what it was like in the 70s.

00:06:57.000 It had to be, because, I mean, really movies, if you really think about it, they were only a few decades old back then.

00:07:04.000 Yeah.

00:07:04.000 It was a new thing, essentially.

00:07:07.000 Yeah.

00:07:08.000 They just, like, perfected it.

00:07:09.000 I mean, really, it was only, like, ten years into where All the movies were color.

00:07:18.000 They were making black and white movies up to like 63, you know?

00:07:22.000 Right.

00:07:22.000 Like The Hustler was black and white.

00:07:24.000 Yeah.

00:07:24.000 That was 63. Yeah.

00:07:26.000 Yeah.

00:07:26.000 And it was an exciting time.

00:07:29.000 Like I said, the inmates had taken over the asylum and it was a feeling like you could do just about anything.

00:07:35.000 And music too was really happening in Los Angeles as well.

00:07:40.000 Record deals were getting signed left and right.

00:07:48.000 It's kind of turned upside down now because of all that rebellious attitude of the 70s and everybody who did it sort of became the establishment, I think.

00:08:00.000 Yeah, bizarre, right?

00:08:01.000 It's really kind of turned up on its ear because it started to kind of really turn politically correct.

00:08:08.000 In the 90s.

00:08:10.000 And it became kind of a, nobody stays at a party after 11 o'clock.

00:08:19.000 Is that when you went into rehab?

00:08:22.000 Yeah, after that.

00:08:23.000 No matter where you're going, you know, even afterwards, you got to pretend you were going to bed, you know?

00:08:29.000 Exactly.

00:08:29.000 Oh, look at the time!

00:08:31.000 Yeah, oh, look at the time!

00:08:34.000 I guess everybody had kids, too, by that point.

00:08:38.000 But then it just got to where we are today, that, you know, you're getting warned to keep your mouth shut because of...

00:08:50.000 It turned upside down.

00:08:52.000 Well, it's also one ideology dominates, especially in Hollywood, dominates the entire business.

00:08:59.000 You know, one of the things that I said that drove me crazy about Hollywood was there's people that had differing opinions about things, but they would never speak out because it could damage their career.

00:09:10.000 Right.

00:09:10.000 That's what's going on now.

00:09:12.000 And it really can. 0.99

00:09:12.000 They will fucking blackball you. 0.99

00:09:13.000 They will. 0.99

00:09:14.000 I mean...

00:09:16.000 There were a couple attempts to cancel me while we were making Reagan, in fact.

00:09:21.000 You know, kind of half-hearted, I guess.

00:09:25.000 But it has become that, you know, and that ain't right.

00:09:31.000 I mean, back then, you know, few people really were, I guess, conservative.

00:09:38.000 Let's throw out parties and just call it conservative.

00:09:41.000 I mean, you had John Wayne.

00:09:42.000 John Voight.

00:09:43.000 Yeah.

00:09:44.000 But you didn't know if John Boynt was conservative back then.

00:09:48.000 He wasn't vocal about it?

00:09:50.000 Not back in the 70s, no.

00:09:53.000 But it was basically John Wayne and Charlton Heston.

00:09:57.000 Right.

00:09:57.000 And that was pretty much about it.

00:10:01.000 Or anybody wearing a tie.

00:10:03.000 Right. 0.99

00:10:06.000 Well, how did the rebels become – like, what the fuck happened? 0.98

00:10:10.000 How did the rebels become the establishment? 0.98

00:10:12.000 That is – we went through an era where – remember, tolerance?

00:10:20.000 That was what we were trying to do, like, back in the teens, I think, in the tens, where you tolerate other groups and all that.

00:10:28.000 And that didn't last very long, and it seems like one had it over the other.

00:10:34.000 But if you ask me where this great divide really started politically, I think...

00:10:40.000 Of course, there was Watergate, but you come up to, like, when the Republicans had their contract with America, I think it was, like, 94 in the year that...

00:10:54.000 Clinton was going to be a lame duck president. 1.00

00:10:57.000 They had those midterms. 0.67

00:10:59.000 And then it started to become just along party lines where there was no – you were a traitor if you went to the other side because we had conservative – We had conservative Democrats.

00:11:14.000 We had liberal Republicans up until that point.

00:11:18.000 You know, that's what I grew up with.

00:11:20.000 And that wasn't good enough anymore.

00:11:23.000 And so it started there and, you know, then continued.

00:11:29.000 And, you know, then the Democrats really took over.

00:11:34.000 They really do it really well as far as that stuff of turning things on their head.

00:11:41.000 And I feel like today they were using the judicial system against Trump, which is really off the reservation.

00:11:53.000 Well, they're using the judicial system against Trump.

00:11:55.000 The entire media establishment, other than Fox News, is completely against anything Republican.

00:12:01.000 Did you see on Colbert the other day, Kristen Collins, is that her name?

00:12:08.000 Yeah.

00:12:08.000 Yeah, I saw that.

00:12:09.000 She said, Colbert says, CNN just reports the facts.

00:12:14.000 The whole audience starts laughing.

00:12:16.000 Yeah, was that a laugh line?

00:12:17.000 Yeah, he goes, well, I guess it is.

00:12:19.000 I guess it is.

00:12:20.000 Yeah, which is hilarious.

00:12:21.000 People get it.

00:12:22.000 Oh, they do get it.

00:12:23.000 That's what, you know...

00:12:24.000 Well, the pandemic, I think.

00:12:25.000 The bolsters me is that people do get it.

00:12:27.000 Sometimes I think everybody's just swallowing this.

00:12:29.000 There's a lot of people that are still swallowing.

00:12:31.000 A lot of boomers, a lot of older folks that are just swallowing whatever's in the newspaper and whatever's on television. 0.97

00:12:37.000 And a lot of people aren't news wonkies like you and I. Yeah.

00:12:41.000 They just get the sound bites.

00:12:42.000 Exactly.

00:12:43.000 And that's what they do it for.

00:12:45.000 Well, it's disheartening the more you do a deep dive on the actual facts about a thing.

00:12:51.000 I've heard people repeat – I've had conversations with people. 0.92

00:12:54.000 They go, well, you know, Trump's a felon.

00:12:55.000 He's convicted of 34 felonies.

00:12:58.000 I go, okay.

00:12:58.000 Do you know what those things are?

00:13:00.000 Do you know that they are misdemeanors?

00:13:03.000 Misdemeanors?

00:13:03.000 Do you know that the statute of limitations had run out on this little misdemeanor?

00:13:08.000 Yeah, the whole thing is the same.

00:13:08.000 It wasn't a campaign contribution.

00:13:10.000 They just did all kind of gymnastics to – Make it happen.

00:13:15.000 And then the third person in the line in the Justice Department comes back to New York to oversee this case.

00:13:24.000 And, you know, just...

00:13:27.000 It's just incredibly dangerous.

00:13:29.000 It's incredibly dangerous.

00:13:31.000 Because it can also be turned around.

00:13:33.000 And there has to come a point where we go, stop.

00:13:39.000 We have to stop this or we're losing our country.

00:13:42.000 Yeah, I think they're more concerned with being in power than they are with preserving the idea of democracy.

00:13:48.000 Yeah, I totally agree with that.

00:13:50.000 And I think some of that was certainly they were emboldened by the fact they're essentially running the country without a president for the last three years.

00:14:00.000 Yes.

00:14:00.000 Because he's not there.

00:14:03.000 Not there, really.

00:14:03.000 And since he's decided that he's not going to run again, he's gone.

00:14:07.000 He's vanished.

00:14:09.000 Who's running it now?

00:14:10.000 Exactly.

00:14:11.000 And then the crazy thing is Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:14:13.000 If Kamala's elected, who will be running it then?

00:14:15.000 Because I really can't see her being in charge.

00:14:20.000 No.

00:14:21.000 It's a figurehead.

00:14:22.000 That's all it is.

00:14:23.000 And what's really wild is the Babylon Bee had a hilarious little caption.

00:14:27.000 They said, when I get in office, I'm going to change things, says the woman who's in office right now.

00:14:34.000 Because she's in office.

00:14:35.000 She's talking about fixing all these things like, hey, you're literally the vice president.

00:14:40.000 From day one, on day one, I'm going to really do something about the border, says the borders are.

00:14:44.000 But you are essentially the president right now. 0.99

00:14:46.000 This is so fucking crazy. 0.98

00:14:48.000 You'll be the president for five more months. 1.00

00:14:49.000 This is so nuts.

00:14:50.000 But yeah, she's flipped on everything except for plastic straws.

00:14:57.000 She still wants to get rid of those. 0.98

00:14:58.000 Did you see the thing where Trump came out and said that he was going to stop taxes for tips of hospitality workers, and you wouldn't tax them on tips anymore?

00:15:08.000 Yeah, that was like a month and a half ago.

00:15:10.000 Yeah, and then she came out and said, she's going to do it, and she's going to stop tips, and everybody cheered as if it was her idea.

00:15:17.000 But here's the problem.

00:15:18.000 In 2022, she was one of the deciding votes to go after people.

00:15:23.000 Yeah.

00:15:24.000 That we're not reporting their tips.

00:15:26.000 Was that on the Inflation Reduction Act or the Green New Deal?

00:15:31.000 Well, that thing was one of the same.

00:15:33.000 Right.

00:15:34.000 She was the tiebreaker. 0.58

00:15:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:15:37.000 So they're going to tax the business instead, which in turn taxes the workers that are there.

00:15:45.000 Yeah, but it's hilarious that two years later she's acting like this is her idea now.

00:15:49.000 Like, you had a chance.

00:15:51.000 You could have swung it the other way two years ago.

00:15:54.000 Yeah.

00:15:55.000 Could have been right in there.

00:15:57.000 Or that, you know, she was the last person in the room when it came to the withdrawal in Afghanistan.

00:16:05.000 Yeah.

00:16:07.000 And, you know, we left 87 billion dollars of military equipment there.

00:16:14.000 We have 13 soldiers that were killed.

00:16:16.000 There's still people over there in hiding.

00:16:19.000 Yeah.

00:16:19.000 And also the people that work with us.

00:16:21.000 All the people that work with all the translators, all the Afghanis that helped us. 1.00

00:16:25.000 They're all fucked. 1.00

00:16:27.000 Well, Trump had all that stuff. 1.00

00:16:30.000 He was doing it right.

00:16:32.000 He had that meeting that he had with the Taliban leadership, and we're going to leave, but if one soldier's head is touched, we're going to be back.

00:16:48.000 And just to show you how we can do it...

00:16:53.000 Here's your address.

00:16:55.000 They had a photograph of his house.

00:16:57.000 Yeah, they gave it to him.

00:16:59.000 And that's when they went, okay.

00:17:03.000 Really, the only thing I liked about Trump was everything that he did.

00:17:08.000 I would cringe at so much stuff that he said.

00:17:11.000 But I think his heart was really in the right place.

00:17:15.000 And not only that, we... 0.99

00:17:18.000 We need a really strong leader like that to deal with these assholes that run the third world, the other world. 1.00

00:17:29.000 There's some bad actors out there. 0.99

00:17:32.000 Yeah, unquestionably.

00:17:33.000 And the wildest thing is that...

00:17:36.000 People are pretending that if he gets into office, he's going to become a dictator, as if he wasn't in office for four years and was never a dictator.

00:17:44.000 Right.

00:17:45.000 Like, the whole thing is like, we're just being gaslit and lied to on a scale that I've never seen in my life.

00:17:51.000 To the point where it's CNN on television saying that they support the news becomes a huge laugh.

00:17:56.000 Right.

00:17:56.000 Or that they just speak the news objectively.

00:17:59.000 Yeah, and it's incredible.

00:18:02.000 Like I said, the Democrats are really good at doing it because they say it's so bold-faced.

00:18:09.000 Yeah.

00:18:09.000 Well, they have so much money.

00:18:11.000 Have you ever seen the difference between Democrat donors versus Republican donors?

00:18:16.000 There was a chart that someone made about the amount of people that donate to the Democratic Party versus the amount of people that donate to the Republican Party.

00:18:24.000 It's shocking.

00:18:25.000 Big donors?

00:18:27.000 It's shocking.

00:18:28.000 That's where it's completely turned upside down.

00:18:31.000 Because it used to be Republicans who were known as the fat cats and big oil and big business and all that would be the...

00:18:41.000 Big supporters and donors of the Republicans, and it was like those $5 and $10 donations of the Democratic Party because they're really a coalition of groups.

00:18:51.000 But then I think starting with Obama especially, it started with social media.

00:18:57.000 It really started to get into more of a corporate type of Yeah, tech oligarchy.

00:19:06.000 It's a great way to put it.

00:19:10.000 That's really what it is, right?

00:19:11.000 It's a tech oligarchy.

00:19:12.000 The tech thing's nuts because nobody anticipated that these corporations were going to have this insane amount of influence and power over people.

00:19:20.000 I've had this guy Robert Epstein on my podcast before him.

00:19:24.000 I don't know if you've ever seen his work, but he basically does statistical analysis of Google search results and what Google does to change people's opinions and how much of an effect it can have on swaying an election.

00:19:37.000 Because if you go look for Trump rally, you'll see a bunch of Kamala Harris things.

00:19:42.000 If you go and try to find something negative about Kamala, you'll find all these positive things about Kamala.

00:19:47.000 So these Quick searches, which most people do.

00:19:51.000 Most people aren't doing deep dives for hours where they're going and reading and finding other alternative sources of information.

00:19:58.000 They get their information from a Google search.

00:20:00.000 And that Google search, if you can curate it and make sure that all the positive stuff about the people that you want is up front and all the negative stuff about the people that you don't want is up front, you could shift people's opinions by 20, 30 percent.

00:20:13.000 Of course you can.

00:20:14.000 And with the algorithms that they have, they already know your preferences and basically who you are to begin with.

00:20:22.000 Yes.

00:20:25.000 They can maneuver that way.

00:20:27.000 And it should be illegal.

00:20:27.000 It's not just the Russians.

00:20:28.000 We should have search results.

00:20:31.000 Search results should be completely unbiased.

00:20:35.000 That should be a law.

00:20:37.000 Because if you can curate searches, if you can curate people's access to information and hide things, that should be illegal.

00:20:45.000 There should be nothing that has anything to do with political ideology when it comes to searching for information.

00:20:51.000 It should just be whatever the information is.

00:20:54.000 I completely agree with you.

00:20:56.000 Well, for one thing, as Ronald Reagan said, democracy can handle it.

00:21:00.000 Yeah.

00:21:02.000 And yeah, he testified before the House Subcommittee back in the day, you know, House of Un-American Activities.

00:21:11.000 It said basically just let the communists go ahead and state their cause.

00:21:16.000 It's okay to have a communist party in this country.

00:21:19.000 Because the exchange of ideas and everything will play out and democracy can handle it.

00:21:25.000 But we're kind of...

00:21:28.000 Excuse me.

00:21:29.000 We're kind of going through with Reagan right now, the movie.

00:21:33.000 We're going through a...

00:21:38.000 Censorship is happening to us through Facebook.

00:21:42.000 Facebook banned advertising and a lot of the podcasts.

00:21:47.000 This one will probably be banned on Facebook as well over the last couple of months.

00:21:54.000 Really?

00:21:55.000 Is it a positive film about Reagan?

00:21:58.000 Is that what the idea is that's bothering them?

00:22:01.000 I see it as a biopic, is really what it is.

00:22:05.000 It follows him from when he was a boy in Dixon all the way through when he said goodbye to the American people when he was diagnosed for Alzheimer's after he was president.

00:22:16.000 And it's a fight against communism, which he fought all of his life.

00:22:23.000 But the reason being was that the content in it was an attempt to sway an election.

00:22:34.000 I mean, the last time I heard, you know, Reagan was on the ballot 40 years ago was the last time.

00:22:41.000 Do you think if you made a positive Obama movie, it would be to sway an election?

00:22:45.000 Well, there was an Obama movie that came out during an election year in 2020. And, you know, nothing about that.

00:22:53.000 And to me, just the act of banning or censoring that material, as you were talking about, is an attempt to sway an election.

00:23:03.000 And Reagan was a Democrat before he was a Republican, by the way.

00:23:08.000 As was Trump.

00:23:09.000 Yeah.

00:23:11.000 Since then, Facebook has said they've made a mistake.

00:23:15.000 They said that yesterday because we put out a letter I do it in an article on Newsweek, and they said they made a mistake.

00:23:24.000 It was their automatic systems had detected it.

00:23:28.000 Oh, how convenient.

00:23:31.000 Yeah.

00:23:31.000 I don't know what those automatic systems are, but there was a mistake in that.

00:23:36.000 Yeah, I don't understand it.

00:23:39.000 I don't know what's going on over there, if it's rogue employees.

00:23:43.000 The problem is, like, so many of those people are so ideologically captured.

00:23:47.000 So many of the people that are working for any tech company.

00:23:50.000 They're kids coming out of the universities.

00:23:52.000 They're all left-wing.

00:23:53.000 There's very few right-wing people involved.

00:23:55.000 It's a tiny, tiny percentage.

00:23:57.000 And they all feel like it's their duty.

00:23:58.000 They feel like they're activists before they're even anything else.

00:24:01.000 To save America.

00:24:02.000 Yeah, which is like, from what?

00:24:04.000 Totally drank the Kool-Aid, if you ask me.

00:24:08.000 Yeah, that's what's unfortunate about the way Trump talks. 0.96

00:24:12.000 Because the way Trump talks, it's easy to make him the enemy, because he seems like a mean, old, rich man.

00:24:19.000 And so in their eyes, that's everything that's wrong in the world.

00:24:23.000 Yes.

00:24:23.000 He'll go after, make fun of you personally, or whatever.

00:24:28.000 Yeah, but he didn't prosecute Hillary. 0.86

00:24:35.000 He's, you know, with all the things they did to Trump, I do believe that when he, as far as revenge and all that stuff, that the success in the election would be his revenge.

00:24:50.000 And I really believe that if it was Biden who was You know, impeach or going to jail or whatever.

00:25:00.000 I think Trump would pardon him.

00:25:01.000 To tell you the truth, I don't think he wants anybody to see a president in jail, because that really changes our country.

00:25:09.000 Well, he has said that openly about Hillary.

00:25:11.000 Like, when he got into office, there was a lot of people that were pressing him to prosecute her, to go after her, for the email thing, for a lot of different things.

00:25:19.000 And he said, no, that'd be a terrible look.

00:25:22.000 It'd be terrible for our country.

00:25:23.000 The wife of the former president of the United States, no way. 1.00

00:25:26.000 And he didn't do it.

00:25:27.000 So all these things that people think he's going to do, well, he had the opportunity to do those things four years ago.

00:25:32.000 And they're thinking now they've done so many egregious things to him now with all the prosecutions and then the years and years of Russiagate. 0.95

00:25:39.000 Every fucking news network saying something. 0.97

00:25:42.000 It started at day one. 1.00

00:25:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:25:42.000 It started at day one, even before he got into office. 1.00

00:25:48.000 But I wasn't – I myself – I wasn't going to vote for Trump this time around.

00:25:55.000 I was wanting them to find another candidate that would kind of calm things down a bit because I thought that's what we needed.

00:26:05.000 We needed to calm things down. 0.98

00:26:07.000 But then when they went after him with the judicial system, these like stupid charges – That's when things change for me, because then you're messing with the Constitution. 0.95

00:26:23.000 And we can't go back from that after something like that happens. 0.94

00:26:29.000 And so that's why I'm jumping in.

00:26:34.000 All for Trump.

00:26:35.000 And the other thing is, people need to understand that even if you hate Trump, if you normalize weaponizing the judicial system against a political candidate, that can be used against your party too.

00:26:48.000 Exactly.

00:26:49.000 And if someone gets in, like Vivek Ramaswamy gets in, or if Ron DeSantis gets in, and he starts doing the same things that they did to Trump, then we have chaos.

00:26:59.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:26:59.000 Then we're a fucking banana republic. 0.99

00:27:02.000 We're Venezuela, where you can go down the line on how that works. 0.99

00:27:06.000 Exactly.

00:27:07.000 Yeah, it's terrifying.

00:27:08.000 We're like the last hope for this whole idea of this experiment in self-government.

00:27:15.000 Ronald Reagan said that these freedoms that we take for granted, they can be lost in a generation.

00:27:23.000 And I always thought, well, it's kind of really high talk and all that stuff.

00:27:28.000 It's true.

00:27:29.000 It's true.

00:27:30.000 These are the craziest times.

00:27:32.000 Yeah, the craziest.

00:27:34.000 And fascinating, by the way, that I've ever lived in.

00:27:38.000 I mean, it makes the 60s look like a sandbox play.

00:27:44.000 Yep, yeah.

00:27:45.000 They're really dead.

00:27:46.000 Well, it's because tech's involved and AI and deepfakes and just so much.

00:27:52.000 So many shenanigans are going on simultaneously.

00:27:55.000 It's such a bizarre...

00:27:56.000 It's a great time for comedy. 0.98

00:27:58.000 There's so much shit to make fun of, because it's almost like the things that are real, they're so funny, they write themselves. 0.99

00:28:03.000 Yeah, it's true. 0.99

00:28:04.000 You can't make this stuff up.

00:28:05.000 It's so nuts.

00:28:06.000 The whole thing is so nuts.

00:28:07.000 And the fact that these people are so ideologically captured, they can't recognize the danger of doing the things that they're doing in order to win, and that you can't fix that stuff once you put it in motion. 0.98

00:28:22.000 I don't know how this is going to turn out, but if this was a show, I'd be like, holy shit, what a great show. 0.99

00:28:28.000 The writing on this show is fucking incredible. 0.99

00:28:30.000 No kidding. 0.99

00:28:31.000 It's a cliffhanger, that's for sure. 0.99

00:28:32.000 Yeah, the assassination attempt, him going fight, fight, fight, putting his fist on, like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:28:38.000 Is this real? 1.00

00:28:39.000 This is crazy.

00:28:40.000 The whole thing's crazy.

00:28:41.000 And then, not a press conference about the shooter.

00:28:44.000 Not a press conference.

00:28:46.000 Not a month later, How do they do it?

00:28:51.000 Nobody remembers it.

00:28:53.000 Right.

00:28:53.000 Well, they memory holed it.

00:28:54.000 Yeah.

00:28:55.000 Memory holed it.

00:28:56.000 It's like as if it never happened.

00:28:58.000 Well, there was so little reporting on how it happened, how it could have happened, who the shooter was.

00:29:05.000 They get to the kid's house and it's completely scrubbed.

00:29:08.000 He doesn't have any silverware in his home.

00:29:11.000 His phone, it takes him, what, a week and a half even to open it?

00:29:15.000 Oh, we can't get into his phone.

00:29:16.000 Yeah.

00:29:18.000 Yeah, that's so strange.

00:29:21.000 You know, my son, my 17-year-old son can get into your phone, but they can't get into your phone.

00:29:27.000 Well, also the fact that this kid, someone from outside the FBI's office in D.C., had been visiting.

00:29:35.000 They track the...

00:29:38.000 They have phone...

00:29:39.000 They have ad...

00:29:42.000 Oh, right.

00:29:42.000 Yeah, they can pin your phone off that triangulate on the cellular couch.

00:29:46.000 So there was a phone that was going from outside of D.C. to this kit multiple times.

00:29:53.000 So what's going on?

00:29:55.000 This kid's training for quite a while, for over a year, it seems like.

00:29:59.000 He was involved in, like, shooting training and preparing.

00:30:03.000 It's like he was being great.

00:30:05.000 He went there at least, like, 40 times, they said.

00:30:08.000 I don't know how many times.

00:30:09.000 It was quite a few.

00:30:10.000 It was quite a few.

00:30:11.000 Yeah, but the whole thing is very strange.

00:30:14.000 It's like, how is this not like a deep investigation that's on the front page of every newspaper where people are trying to figure out, was this a government conspiracy to kill the presidential candidate?

00:30:26.000 What happened?

00:30:27.000 Right.

00:30:28.000 Was it?

00:30:29.000 You know, we go back to the Kennedy...

00:30:31.000 No, go ahead.

00:30:32.000 I thought the moment he got shot and lived and he goes, fight, fight, fight, I'm like, it's over.

00:30:37.000 He's gonna win this.

00:30:38.000 Yeah, me too.

00:30:38.000 He's gonna win this.

00:30:39.000 That's it.

00:30:40.000 Put up his fist like that is like...

00:30:42.000 And then next thing you know, Kamala Harris has one good speech and everybody's cheering and you're like, wow.

00:30:49.000 It's just completely flip-flop.

00:30:50.000 All the talk shows, everyone's with her. 0.98

00:30:53.000 A person who just a month prior was being hidden because she would say so many dumb things and every time she had a talk openly with no script, she would blunder and fuck things up. 0.98

00:31:05.000 Now all of a sudden she's the perfect candidate. 0.99

00:31:07.000 Yeah.

00:31:07.000 It's kinda wild.

00:31:11.000 It's super wild.

00:31:13.000 You know, they did have and disenfranchised all those voters who had voted for Biden.

00:31:20.000 Yeah.

00:31:20.000 You know, if you're talking about democracy, then all of a sudden they have no say about it.

00:31:25.000 No primary.

00:31:26.000 There's no one else gets to choose.

00:31:29.000 And they use the FEC filing for Biden's money.

00:31:35.000 So, like, she gets to access that war chest.

00:31:38.000 So the whole thing's crazy.

00:31:40.000 And the fact that no one's freaking out about the dangers of this, and the fact that this is the first time ever that someone who nobody voted for, nobody voted for in the primaries, had zero delegates, is now being the person who is at the front.

00:31:53.000 There's a point ahead in the polls.

00:31:55.000 Yeah.

00:31:56.000 Allegedly.

00:31:57.000 I always say with the polls, like...

00:31:59.000 Says who? 0.65

00:32:00.000 Here's the thing about polls. 1.00

00:32:01.000 Who the fuck are you asking? 0.99

00:32:03.000 And who's talking to you? 1.00

00:32:05.000 The people that have the least amount to do, the people that are willing to answer polls, the people that when you call them up, say, do you have a few minutes of my time?

00:32:15.000 They're like, well, yes, I do. 0.99

00:32:16.000 Most people say, get the fuck out of here, and they hang up the phone. 0.97

00:32:19.000 The vast majority of people don't answer polls. 1.00

00:32:21.000 So you have one point ahead of the people dumb enough to answer polls. 0.98

00:32:28.000 Everybody else, it's like, we don't know. 0.98

00:32:30.000 And so that's why the gaslighting continues.

00:32:32.000 Well, let's put it this way, though.

00:32:33.000 They've done a very good job because they do have the Republicans back on their heels.

00:32:39.000 Oh yeah, and I didn't think it was going to happen.

00:32:41.000 I didn't think so either.

00:32:42.000 I thought, well...

00:32:43.000 Leading up to it, I thought he was going to steamroll Biden.

00:32:46.000 The administration has done a terrible job over the last three years.

00:32:49.000 The border's wide open.

00:32:50.000 Everyone's freaking out.

00:32:51.000 There's two wars going on simultaneously that could lead us into World War III at any moment.

00:32:55.000 Everybody's freaking out.

00:32:56.000 I'm like, when Trump was in office, there was no wars.

00:33:00.000 There was no new wars.

00:33:01.000 There was nothing new that he was doing that was putting people in jeopardy. 0.97

00:33:05.000 And then all of a sudden, it was this fucking complete, total turnaround orchestrated by the media. 0.97

00:33:12.000 And it happened right in front of our eyes. 0.99

00:33:14.000 And now Kamala is this darling of everybody.

00:33:17.000 It's like, this is wild.

00:33:18.000 Like, the least popular vice president of all time is now one of the most popular presidential candidates of all time.

00:33:24.000 Like that.

00:33:27.000 Incredible.

00:33:27.000 And, you know, they're going to – what we're talking about right now, we're going to sound like conspiracy theorists.

00:33:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:37.000 Yeah.

00:33:38.000 Yeah.

00:33:38.000 Well, I'm used to that.

00:33:39.000 Yeah.

00:33:40.000 I'm just getting used to it myself.

00:33:42.000 Super comfortable with it.

00:33:43.000 Super comfortable with it.

00:33:45.000 One of Reagan's greatest phrases, in my opinion, is the nine most terrifying words.

00:33:51.000 I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

00:33:53.000 I'm here to help.

00:33:54.000 Yeah.

00:33:58.000 It's like it's so true.

00:34:00.000 These people are just like any other person in any position of power.

00:34:04.000 They want to maintain power and they want to make as much money as possible.

00:34:07.000 It's in every corporation.

00:34:09.000 When corporations get in trouble for lying about their products, it's the same thing.

00:34:13.000 It's the same thing in every business.

00:34:14.000 You've got to risk management.

00:34:16.000 Yeah.

00:34:16.000 They show up at the door and – it's amazing how the times today are so much like when Reagan was elected.

00:34:28.000 We had – Inflation, we have 20% interest rates.

00:34:33.000 I remember that because I bought a house actually during that time.

00:34:38.000 There was a feeling of malaise in the country that Carter even spoke of.

00:34:42.000 We had hostages in Iran.

00:34:45.000 I mean, we have hostages.

00:34:47.000 Over there in Israel in the Gaza Strip that nobody's even speaking about.

00:34:51.000 How is that possible?

00:34:52.000 Where's the outrage on that?

00:34:56.000 And it's so much like that time.

00:35:01.000 And Reagan came along and said, you know, we're going this way.

00:35:06.000 That we're not a nation in decline like we've been told that we are today.

00:35:11.000 And, you know, America came back from that. 0.94

00:35:14.000 I still have really great faith in the American people when it comes down where the rubber meets the road.

00:35:23.000 I have a great faith in a certain percentage of the American people.

00:35:26.000 Yeah.

00:35:26.000 I think there's a certain percentage of the American people that are living in a movie.

00:35:35.000 They have no real understanding of all the mechanisms that are involved that make this world work and why it's working in the way it's working and what the dangers are of it.

00:35:46.000 There's so many people that are only fed by the mainstream media, which is completely corporate controlled.

00:35:53.000 They don't know what's going on.

00:35:54.000 In a sound bite.

00:35:56.000 That's all it is.

00:35:58.000 Sound bite and headlines.

00:35:59.000 I've been an independent all my life, really.

00:36:01.000 I voted for Carter.

00:36:03.000 I voted for Reagan twice.

00:36:04.000 I voted for Ross Perot.

00:36:06.000 I voted for Clinton once.

00:36:09.000 I voted for Bush once.

00:36:10.000 I voted for Ross Perot, too.

00:36:12.000 Yeah.

00:36:12.000 I voted for Obama once.

00:36:17.000 And the second election of that one, I sat out because I just didn't have a choice.

00:36:23.000 But you know what?

00:36:24.000 I voted for Trump the first time because I went in there and it was Hillary or Trump or Hillary or Trump.

00:36:29.000 And I voted for Trump and voted for him again.

00:36:33.000 But I've always believed like in the pendulum of...

00:36:38.000 of politics and culture and the world about what is it that we need right now.

00:36:44.000 And, in fact, Republicans and Democrats need each other.

00:36:47.000 They keep each other from going too far, one way or the other.

00:36:53.000 And our nation is based on compromise, which winds up being kind of the best way forward.

00:37:00.000 Not everybody gets what they want, but the important stuff, it shakes out in the end.

00:37:05.000 But that doesn't seem to be the way things are working right now.

00:37:10.000 Or maybe it is in the overall picture, but I just can't see it.

00:37:16.000 Well, I think what happened was I don't think in 2016 they ever anticipated that Trump was going to win.

00:37:22.000 All the projections were that Hillary was going to win by a landslide. 0.98

00:37:25.000 That was all the polls.

00:37:27.000 That was all the things he saw on television.

00:37:28.000 And then when Trump started winning on television, You could see it in the look of the faces of the pundits, the people that were on TV that were calling the election.

00:37:36.000 They were baffled.

00:37:37.000 They couldn't believe it.

00:37:38.000 And then when it was over, there's that famous video of the lady with the sock hat and the glasses in the street on her knees going, no!

00:37:48.000 You see that?

00:37:49.000 When it's announced.

00:37:51.000 Yeah, the glass ceiling still exists.

00:37:55.000 Had not been broken.

00:37:56.000 Oh, it was crazy times.

00:37:57.000 And then, what's really funny, is right after that, Jim Brewer had a great joke about this, that...

00:38:02.000 There was those women march. 1.00

00:38:04.000 Those marches. 1.00

00:38:05.000 Because, you know, Trump had said that, grab him by the pussy thing, and be like, he's anti-woman. 1.00

00:38:09.000 So there's these women marches. 1.00

00:38:11.000 And Jim Brewer goes, isn't it funny?

00:38:12.000 They knew what a woman was then. 0.99

00:38:14.000 Yeah.

00:38:15.000 Which is crazy, because that was only 2016. Yeah.

00:38:18.000 2016, there was no trans women.

00:38:21.000 That kind of conversation was not on the table at all.

00:38:25.000 The Me Too movement.

00:38:25.000 All of that.

00:38:27.000 Just completely gone.

00:38:30.000 Out the window.

00:38:31.000 In favor of what?

00:38:34.000 0.0000 whatever of the population.

00:38:39.000 I know.

00:38:39.000 It's nuts.

00:38:40.000 And it's also, it's like now women's sports are in peril.

00:38:43.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:38:43.000 Because now you're having biological men with mental disease, mental disorders, competing as women. 0.94

00:38:50.000 Saying that they're women. 0.99

00:38:51.000 Women winning weightlifting events.

00:38:53.000 Women winning cycling events.

00:38:54.000 That boxer.

00:38:55.000 The Italian boxer.

00:38:55.000 The boxer is a complicated one.

00:38:58.000 I have nothing against trans people.

00:39:00.000 I was in the drama department.

00:39:02.000 I was a drama mama. 0.93

00:39:04.000 Most of the drama department was gay and stuff.

00:39:07.000 I grew up in that way. 0.58

00:39:09.000 I used to play golf with Caitlyn.

00:39:14.000 When it was Caitlin or Bruce?

00:39:16.000 Back when it was Bruce.

00:39:17.000 It would just be us, because Sherwood, there weren't many people around.

00:39:22.000 I love the guy.

00:39:24.000 And when he came out like that, I was really happy for him, to tell you the truth, because to have to carry that around, what you feel inside, that's really important.

00:39:37.000 But that doesn't mean that the entire nation has to...

00:39:41.000 Flip over and change to accommodate that.

00:39:46.000 Yes, there could be a mall for you.

00:39:50.000 In fact, our system already accommodates everybody.

00:39:54.000 Yes.

00:39:55.000 It does.

00:39:56.000 Yeah, it does.

00:39:57.000 But I just don't like being beat over the head and told what to think and what to feel and to pretend this and pretend that.

00:40:07.000 No.

00:40:07.000 No, it's terrible.

00:40:08.000 It's terrible for everybody.

00:40:09.000 And it's just this very loud vocal minority that's very invested in pushing this agenda. 1.00

00:40:15.000 And everybody else is just scratching their heads and going, what the fuck? 0.99

00:40:18.000 And if you have a daughter, That is to do some sort of a sport, and there's trans athletes on that team. 1.00

00:40:25.000 Like, Jesus Christ.

00:40:26.000 This is the reason why Title Dime was created in the first place.

00:40:29.000 To give women an opportunity to compete with women. 0.98

00:40:32.000 Exactly.

00:40:32.000 You can't say, I feel like a woman, so I'm a woman, and I'm going to compete with women with all the male biological advantages.

00:40:40.000 You want to talk about science denying.

00:40:42.000 There's your science denying.

00:40:43.000 Right there.

00:40:44.000 You're denying biological science.

00:40:47.000 Yeah, a man just by his body mask can hit three times harder than a woman. 1.00

00:40:53.000 In that Olympic match, I mean, the girl stopped after like 45 seconds. 1.00

00:40:59.000 See, that's a different story. 0.98

00:41:00.000 That person has a disease.

00:41:02.000 That male boxer who was allegedly male, who allegedly has XY chromosomes.

00:41:09.000 There's a complicated issue with that.

00:41:11.000 This is like a genetic disorder that this person has, where they have very high testosterone and allegedly have XY chromosome.

00:41:18.000 They should do chromosome. 1.00

00:41:19.000 Do you know what the Enhanced Games is?

00:41:23.000 I think I know what you're getting at.

00:41:26.000 The Enhanced Games, they're putting together this new form of athletic competition.

00:41:30.000 It's going to be this enormous event where they're going to let people take performance-enhancing drugs.

00:41:36.000 And so I asked them, I had them on the podcast, I said, what are you going to do about trans athletes?

00:41:41.000 They said, I think we're going to go along chromosomes.

00:41:43.000 So if you have XY chromosome, no matter what, you're competing with other people that have XY chromosomes.

00:41:49.000 Males. 0.90

00:41:50.000 People who went through male puberty.

00:41:52.000 That's it.

00:41:53.000 End of discussion.

00:41:54.000 Yeah.

00:41:54.000 Now, socially, I'll call you a woman.

00:41:56.000 I'll call you whatever your name you want to be called.

00:41:59.000 I don't care at all.

00:41:59.000 But if you want to compete athletically, we're going to pretend that the shape of the hips, the density of the bones, size of the lungs, size of the heart, the ability to react quicker, all these different advantages that we know exist.

00:42:12.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:42:12.000 This is stupid. 1.00

00:42:14.000 And now you're putting ideology ahead of facts and ahead of science and ahead of the biological reality we know about the advantages that men have. 1.00

00:42:23.000 Yeah, ideology.

00:42:25.000 It's like don't look behind the curtain.

00:42:28.000 It's like Oz.

00:42:30.000 Don't look over there.

00:42:32.000 It's people that don't have religion, is what it is. 1.00

00:42:34.000 And they have a new religion.

00:42:35.000 And that religion is this woke ideology.

00:42:38.000 They're acting that way the same way a religious zealot would act.

00:42:44.000 Yeah.

00:42:46.000 Complete with the doctrine and everything that goes with it to spout.

00:42:50.000 And there is no argument.

00:42:53.000 Excommunication, everything.

00:42:54.000 There is no exchange of ideas within that.

00:42:58.000 Well, they can't debate, because if you debate about it, then the facts...

00:43:02.000 Outweigh their ideology.

00:43:04.000 You look at the biological facts of this stuff, it outweighs the ideology.

00:43:08.000 And then you look at the transitioning children. 0.99

00:43:11.000 I mean, have you ever seen these interviews where people go up to people and they say, do you think that a child of 12 years old is old enough to get a tattoo?

00:43:20.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:43:21.000 Do you think they're old enough to know their gender?

00:43:26.000 Yes.

00:43:27.000 Yes.

00:43:27.000 Oh, that.

00:43:28.000 Oh, that.

00:43:29.000 Yeah, oh that.

00:43:30.000 Puberty blockers are fine.

00:43:32.000 Literally, chemical castration drugs that were used on pedophiles in the past, those are fine.

00:43:37.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:43:38.000 Those are fine to give to kids that are fucking confused. 0.99

00:43:40.000 And without telling the parents, too. 0.99

00:43:40.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:43:41.000 Yeah.

00:43:41.000 The whole thing is bananas.

00:43:42.000 Parents having no say about it.

00:43:44.000 Yeah.

00:43:45.000 Yeah.

00:43:45.000 I think people, in a way...

00:43:47.000 Do know their gender when they're young. 0.63

00:43:50.000 In a way, maybe later they look back and realize that they were that way when, you know, they were either gay or from, you know, a place of hindsight in a way.

00:44:05.000 But to let someone who...

00:44:07.000 You know, under at least 18, really, I mean, even in 18, how much do we really know ourselves back then?

00:44:16.000 And then you can't go back from that.

00:44:17.000 Right.

00:44:18.000 And people are very easily influenced.

00:44:20.000 Very.

00:44:20.000 Yeah.

00:44:21.000 And if they're taught by the people around them that they get positive reinforcement if they go in a particular direction, people do that. 0.99

00:44:27.000 I mean, how many fucking Hollywood kids, how many people in Hollywood have trans kids? 0.99

00:44:31.000 And how is that possible? 1.00

00:44:32.000 All of a sudden, there's an epidemic of it.

00:44:34.000 How is that possible?

00:44:34.000 Yeah.

00:44:35.000 How is it possible?

00:44:36.000 Is it just the openness that's always been there? 0.99

00:44:38.000 Or is it that this is some sort of a fucking mind virus and these people are being influenced by the positive reaction they get from saying that they're LBGTQ2 plus AI, whatever the fuck it is now. 0.99

00:44:51.000 It's like there's a social contagion going on and there's an aspect of that that's real. 1.00

00:44:56.000 Yeah.

00:44:57.000 These are educated people we're talking about.

00:45:00.000 But that's what's nuts, right?

00:45:01.000 But educated people that are not paying attention to this thing called gender dysphoria that has always existed.

00:45:08.000 How do you think we get back to being able to have an exchange of ideas and not just try to put the other one in jail or try to dismiss them from society?

00:45:22.000 It sounds ridiculous, but I think the only way is to do what we're doing right now and to continue talking about it as reasonable people and have people listen to it and it shapes people's opinions and things.

00:45:31.000 They go, yeah, they're making sense.

00:45:33.000 It is reasonable.

00:45:34.000 And to pretend that these psychological conditions, there's a psychological condition called autogonophilia, where men get sexually aroused dressing up as women.

00:45:44.000 But they're usually attracted to women. 0.91

00:45:47.000 So now these men are pretending that they're lesbians.

00:45:51.000 So they're calling themselves lesbians. 1.00

00:45:52.000 And they're getting on lesbian apps. 1.00

00:45:54.000 And lesbians are fucked now. 1.00

00:45:55.000 Because now there's these men that are pretending to be lesbian that are occupying these lesbian apps. 1.00

00:46:01.000 They've ascended their agenda. 0.86

00:46:02.000 And if you don't want to date them, then you're transphobic and they'll attack you. 1.00

00:46:06.000 And it's like, holy shit. 1.00

00:46:07.000 These are the people that were perverts in the past. 1.00

00:46:11.000 And now all of a sudden they're part of a protected class.

00:46:15.000 It's very strange.

00:46:17.000 It's very strange and it's not good and it's not sustainable.

00:46:20.000 And I don't know when people are going to fully recognize the harm that they've done to all these children that they've had mastectomies and forced...

00:46:38.000 There's no fucking reversing, damaging someone's puberty. 0.91

00:46:42.000 That's not true. 0.98

00:46:43.000 If you put puberty blockers in a boy, that is not reversible.

00:46:47.000 It's not true.

00:46:48.000 Not only is it not true, there is a tremendous amount of evidence that shows that there's significant danger to taking those drugs.

00:46:56.000 There's blood clots and strokes and all sorts of other...

00:46:59.000 And then there's the fact that...

00:47:00.000 It's not natural.

00:47:02.000 None of it's natural, right?

00:47:03.000 Even injecting them with estrogen, like, so they could be their true self. 0.98

00:47:08.000 If you're your fucking true self, chemicals are not involved, it's not injecting chemicals are not involved in maintaining your true self. 0.99

00:47:14.000 That's nonsense. 1.00

00:47:15.000 And it's a crazy sort of a leap, a mental leap that you have to have to make that.

00:47:22.000 We've got to get back to a place.

00:47:25.000 I mean, I look back at the 60s and, you know, we've always been kind of a nation, at least in this century, of experiments that go on as a society as a whole.

00:47:37.000 You know, you had the flower children back then and that whole counterculture relationship. 0.98

00:47:42.000 Sure, the weather underground, all that shit. 0.99

00:47:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:47:47.000 You knew who the leaders were.

00:47:49.000 It seems to be leaderless today.

00:47:51.000 You know, you had either – you had Abbie Hoffman, you had the Black Panthers, you had Malcolm X, you knew who – Martin Luther King.

00:48:02.000 You had leaders of all these movements that you could have this dialogue with or this debate with.

00:48:13.000 And now it's – who are the leaders of Black Lives Matter?

00:48:20.000 Who are the leaders and spokesmen for this whole trans movement that's going on?

00:48:27.000 Some of it is political, but where are the leaders for that?

00:48:33.000 Well, I think the leaders are the tech businesses.

00:48:35.000 I think that's what it is.

00:48:37.000 I think the tech businesses have become a de facto form of government.

00:48:41.000 Yeah.

00:48:42.000 To me, the only motivation of that could be control.

00:48:49.000 100%.

00:48:50.000 First to control the bottom line of the money, but then the more people that you get have kind of acquiesced control over, the more your bottom line is going to go on, and then it's about power.

00:49:06.000 Yeah.

00:49:09.000 And, you know, I think we've been shown in this, getting back to what we were talking about before, that that really is what is going on.

00:49:20.000 And what was going on in 2020, if you ask me, with the tech companies deciding to, you know, what we were going to see and what we were going to hear.

00:49:31.000 And it's pretty much exposed and dangerous.

00:49:36.000 Yeah.

00:49:36.000 It is dangerous.

00:49:37.000 And we're not prepared for that influence.

00:49:40.000 We didn't know it was going to exist before.

00:49:43.000 There's no laws in place to keep it in check, which is why Google is allowed to curate the search results and why they're allowed to censor conservative voices on social media.

00:49:53.000 One of the things we found out, like, thank God for Elon Musk, because if Elon Musk had not bought Twitter, we would not have known the extent of the government's meddling into information distribution.

00:50:02.000 We wouldn't have known.

00:50:03.000 They were literally trying to get them to ban legitimate news stories, and they were successful with the Hunter Byron laptop story.

00:50:12.000 But other legitimate conservative perspectives and points of view and people that were legitimate doctors and scientists that had questions about the way we're handling the pandemic.

00:50:22.000 Which also turns out to be true.

00:50:23.000 Yeah, which also 100% turned out to be true.

00:50:25.000 And then when it – there is no kind of, okay, we were wrong about this and this – they just kind of dismiss it.

00:50:33.000 I got in a conversation with a guy who was like, well, you know, what about you?

00:50:36.000 These are not ideological issues that you're talking about when it comes to medicine, especially, but everything gets turned into a political.

00:50:44.000 That's what's crazy, that vaccines and pharmaceutical drug companies became a democratic, liberal perspective in supporting that, like these corporations that have the biggest criminal fines in the history of medicine.

00:50:58.000 It's all these companies, these pharmaceutical drug companies for doing things that were illegal.

00:51:05.000 They were fined billions of dollars.

00:51:07.000 And people still wholesale bought everything they said and if you disagreed, you were some sort of a fringe conspiracy theorist who was a danger to everyone around you.

00:51:16.000 Right.

00:51:16.000 I know a little bit about that because from when my twins were overdosed when they were 12 days old with heparin.

00:51:24.000 In a hospital, they turned their blood to the consistency of water.

00:51:30.000 And they were off the measurable scale, in fact, for coagulation of their blood for more than 48 hours.

00:51:36.000 And it was the scariest moment of our lives.

00:51:39.000 But really about what I learned about, we did not sue the hospital.

00:51:45.000 It was a human error in that.

00:51:47.000 But it was the drug company also which was kind of liable in that the The 10-milligram unit, the 10-unit bottle that the kids were supposed to get was light blue, and the adult was dark blue, and that was 10,000.

00:52:02.000 So they got 10,000 three times.

00:52:05.000 It was horrific.

00:52:08.000 But after that, I testified before Congress in the Oversight Committee there about what had happened.

00:52:18.000 And as far as the drug companies, it's impossible to sue.

00:52:21.000 Drug companies, just about.

00:52:24.000 It's very difficult to get them to change anything.

00:52:28.000 They're all located, for the most part, in Illinois, and they have that system wrapped up.

00:52:35.000 But everybody at the FDA, I won't say everybody, but there are so many people at the FDA in positions that are either former employees of drug companies or Future employees of drug companies.

00:52:51.000 Future is more likely, right?

00:52:52.000 Because they know there's a golden basket waiting for them at the end of this journey.

00:52:56.000 Exactly.

00:52:57.000 So to get any kind of – that's wrong in itself.

00:53:02.000 And to get anything real done is clouded by self-interest.

00:53:09.000 Yeah.

00:53:12.000 So, what happened, you know, during COVID was, you know, there's still these boys that are, you know, dropping dead, you know, at 17 of heart attacks.

00:53:24.000 And it's, people don't trust their government anymore.

00:53:30.000 And that's the same it was back in the late 70s before that election.

00:53:34.000 People didn't, since Watergate, hadn't trusted their government.

00:53:38.000 What's bizarre to me is that even with all the evidence of these people dropping dead, the people that are around the people dropping dead are in denial about it.

00:53:48.000 Because they all advocated for a very specific thing, and when that very specific thing may be causing a bunch of deaths, they don't want to take credit for it.

00:53:59.000 They don't want to be in trouble for it.

00:54:00.000 They don't want to be beholden to their To this idea that they had the pharmaceutical drug companies are telling you the truth, and that this is the only way out of this, and if you didn't do it, we're all gonna die, and everybody went into this with this terrible fear, and because they stated that early,

00:54:16.000 now they're committed to it, and they're defending it because it's a part of themselves.

00:54:19.000 Their ideas are a part of themselves.

00:54:22.000 If you look at what insurance companies are dealing with now, with excess deaths, That's some of the best data that we have, is excess mortality.

00:54:34.000 And the excess mortality is extraordinary.

00:54:37.000 At any other time in history, if there was a thing that was rolled out where all of a sudden everybody's taking it and all of a sudden you have this amazing increase in excess deaths.

00:54:48.000 And cancers that are what they're calling turbo cancer.

00:54:52.000 And if you listen to Peter McCullough, he explains how this could be causing that, that the mRNA vaccines could be causing these turbo cancers.

00:55:02.000 Yeah, because it actually changes our molecular structure down to, you know, the chromosomes in the DNA. It's a man-made thing, which is affecting our body in a bad way.

00:55:17.000 Yeah, and it's killing people that took it, that were advocating for it, that were tech people.

00:55:22.000 There's tech people that are dropping dead left and right, and they're still on this bandwagon, and they're still letting the CDC saying, you should vaccinate anyone under 12. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

00:55:33.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:55:34.000 This is insane.

00:55:35.000 It was never dangerous for kids.

00:55:37.000 My kids got it, and they were over it in a couple of days.

00:55:39.000 It was nothing.

00:55:40.000 Yeah, I got the vaccine twice.

00:55:42.000 I had to when we were doing Reagan.

00:55:46.000 We were shooting the movie, so it's still at that point, and it was required in order to work.

00:55:52.000 Did you have any side effects?

00:55:55.000 No, but, you know, I do note, and I actually got COVID when we were shooting Reagan during the assassination scene, actually.

00:56:03.000 Oh, really?

00:56:04.000 Oh, no way.

00:56:05.000 We were working in a basement, and we had, like, 50 extras, you know, and it was just, oh, of course it did.

00:56:10.000 Just about everybody got it.

00:56:11.000 But I had it bad.

00:56:13.000 I was lucky it hit me in the guts instead of the lungs.

00:56:16.000 And I had 104 temperature for a couple of nights.

00:56:22.000 But, you know, I was over it in a couple of weeks.

00:56:26.000 And then, you know, getting the vaccine, I did have kind of a reaction to that, like a little mini version.

00:56:32.000 But I've noticed that when I get a cold now, it's harder to get over.

00:56:39.000 Everything is a little bit harder to get over now.

00:56:42.000 And I don't think it's just me.

00:56:44.000 I have friends.

00:56:46.000 We talk about it and the same thing is going on.

00:56:52.000 Coming from China and all that, what could have happened is it could have been an exchange, a real exchange of how It had really happened and what the process was of how it happened to make sure that it doesn't happen again or during the research of the vaccine to put that out where it could have helped there as well.

00:57:21.000 It just winds up being, you know, everybody lines up on the side of ideology.

00:57:27.000 Exactly.

00:57:28.000 I mean, I wonder, you know, if Trump does come into office.

00:57:32.000 Are they going to say, oh, I won't take Trump's vaccine again?

00:57:37.000 Well, that's how it was.

00:57:38.000 Even Kamala Harris was saying that.

00:57:40.000 Yeah, she was saying, I'm not going to take his vaccine when it comes out.

00:57:43.000 Then as soon as they got into office, the very same vaccine, they said, yes, we should take our vaccine.

00:57:50.000 Yeah, it's nuts.

00:57:52.000 Yeah.

00:57:53.000 Very bizarre.

00:57:54.000 That's one of the things that's so interesting because we have more access to information now than we've ever had in all of human history, and yet people are more divided by ideology than they are by facts than any other time in history.

00:58:07.000 A lot of it has to do, I think, with cable news, too.

00:58:10.000 People have, you know, separated themselves.

00:58:13.000 I, myself, I watch all of them.

00:58:15.000 You know, on DirecTV, there's Channel 200 where you got like six boxes up there and you could watch all the news and it flipped back and forth.

00:58:25.000 And it's like watching a different story, a completely different story depending on where you're going.

00:58:30.000 Somewhere in the middle there is the real thing.

00:58:33.000 One of my favorite moments was when Joy Reid was comparing Biden getting COVID to Trump getting shot.

00:58:40.000 Yeah.

00:58:40.000 Like, yeah, he got over COVID. Right.

00:58:43.000 He got over COVID. No, he got over 2024 COVID, which is basically a fucking cough. 0.99

00:58:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:58:47.000 And Reagan, I mean, excuse me, Trump got shot in the fucking head. 1.00

00:58:52.000 Yeah, it only grazed his ear, but that was just a miraculous turn of the head at the exact right moment. 0.99

00:58:57.000 Incredible.

00:58:58.000 It may have been shrapnel, actually.

00:59:00.000 Is that what they think?

00:59:01.000 Maybe it kicks up and dusts up.

00:59:02.000 I don't know.

00:59:03.000 I'm just starting something new.

00:59:04.000 Well, there's a literal photo of the bullet passing by his head.

00:59:08.000 Yeah.

00:59:08.000 But there were a lot of people that denied that he even got shot.

00:59:11.000 Actually, there was three that came very close to him.

00:59:14.000 Yes.

00:59:14.000 There was a second one on the left side of his head.

00:59:15.000 One was just an inch away from that one, too.

00:59:19.000 Man.

00:59:22.000 If his head had blown up there in front of everybody, what would be the situation?

00:59:28.000 Civil War.

00:59:28.000 Yeah.

00:59:29.000 Yeah, it could have very well been Civil War.

00:59:31.000 I'm afraid it could have been. 0.99

00:59:33.000 Yeah, those Trump people would have fucking loaded up their pickup trucks. 1.00

00:59:37.000 Do you think they would have done a more thorough investigation now? 0.99

00:59:42.000 No.

00:59:43.000 No, because that's – listen, this is Lee Harvey Oswald all over again, but less complicated, or actually more complicated, right?

00:59:51.000 Because this is a very young kid.

00:59:53.000 How did they get to him?

00:59:54.000 We don't know anything about him.

00:59:55.000 We don't know why he was willing to do this.

00:59:58.000 We also know he's a registered Republican, which is crazy.

01:00:01.000 Well, you know, one could be swayed from that, too.

01:00:04.000 Sure, sure.

01:00:05.000 Especially at 20. Yeah.

01:00:07.000 You know, like, who fucking knows what happened? 0.88

01:00:09.000 About who is dangerous, and they're going to have to get another Republican, and they're just, you know... 0.93

01:00:13.000 But, uh...

01:00:14.000 Yeah, I've been reading this unspoken – I've forgotten the author's name – but it was endorsed by RFK Jr. about the assassination of his uncle, the president, John Kennedy.

01:00:30.000 And it takes every piece of information that is known and Puts it in a book and tells a story from it.

01:00:40.000 And it was our government, I think, that killed Kennedy.

01:00:49.000 And through the CIA, the dark forces within our government.

01:00:57.000 If that can happen, then how about today?

01:01:02.000 Of course.

01:01:03.000 Sure.

01:01:04.000 Who's running things?

01:01:05.000 The only conclusion you can draw is it's got to be something like that.

01:01:14.000 Only I can't understand why the CIA would want us out of Afghanistan that way or why All the other stuff is going on, but I guess,

01:01:30.000 again, that's for control.

01:01:31.000 Yeah, it's for control, but it's also so multi-layered and so hard to figure out what's going on.

01:01:36.000 I mean, we know that they had MKUltra in the 1960s.

01:01:39.000 They did mind control experiments on people.

01:01:41.000 Yeah. 0.91

01:01:42.000 And the idea that they just stopped that is silly.

01:01:44.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:01:45.000 That's silly. 0.70

01:01:46.000 They went further. 0.88

01:01:47.000 That's how we got all those other drugs that were turned up at parties, right?

01:01:51.000 Yeah.

01:01:52.000 Well, it's part of it.

01:01:55.000 This guy, Norman Ohler, he wrote about drugs during the Third Reich and about how they experimented with LSD on concentration camp prisoners and all the stuff that they were giving Hitler while he was in the middle and all the stuff they were giving the Nazis.

01:02:13.000 They were giving the Nazis meth. 0.51

01:02:15.000 They were all on meth.

01:02:16.000 It was crystal meth, in fact.

01:02:18.000 They were so fanatical in going out there and staying up for days.

01:02:22.000 It was essential to the blitzkrieg.

01:02:25.000 You can't stop and take a nap over that.

01:02:28.000 You've got to keep on rolling down the road like a trucker. 1.00

01:02:31.000 Wild, out of their fucking minds. 1.00

01:02:33.000 And Norman was explaining that they had different levels of meth that they would give to the people at the front lines. 1.00

01:02:39.000 The guys that ran the tanks had the most meth. 0.99

01:02:42.000 So they're just jacked out of their fucking minds, just storming through the night. 0.99

01:02:46.000 And then the French were drinking wine. 1.00

01:02:48.000 They're just like hanging out, drinking.

01:02:50.000 They got like a liter of wine, three quarters of a liter of wine a day as a ration.

01:02:54.000 So they're drunk in the streets, and then the Nazis come through on meth, which is a way better drug for war. 0.93

01:03:00.000 Yeah.

01:03:00.000 They just went right past that Maginot line like nothing flat.

01:03:05.000 Fucking nuts, man. 1.00

01:03:06.000 Really crazy. 1.00

01:03:07.000 Nuts.

01:03:07.000 Three days through Poland.

01:03:08.000 The whole thing is insane.

01:03:10.000 But that they took that knowledge from the Nazis and they started applying it. 0.77

01:03:16.000 And then they started using some of those drugs and using these MKUltra experiments.

01:03:20.000 And the idea that they stopped that and they don't do that now.

01:03:24.000 What happened with this kid?

01:03:26.000 Did they do an autopsy?

01:03:27.000 Did they find there's any chemicals in this kid's body?

01:03:30.000 We don't know. 0.99

01:03:30.000 We haven't heard a fucking peep. 0.99

01:03:31.000 We have not heard a single press conference. 0.99

01:03:33.000 The first thing that I would have done, but besides like try to figure out how the fuck this kid was on the roof for 30 minutes without anybody doing anything, How he got a rifle there, how he got a ladder there, how the snipers didn't shoot him, how they didn't go up there and take him out before this happened. 0.96

01:03:49.000 Secret Service was supposed to be in those windows. 0.98

01:03:51.000 I mean, they had a fantastic look at him, but they were downstairs drinking coffee or whatever the hell they were doing.

01:03:59.000 Well, not only that, a lot of those people were Department of Homeland Security.

01:04:02.000 They weren't even Secret Service agents.

01:04:03.000 They weren't even lined up.

01:04:04.000 And who runs the Department of Homeland Security?

01:04:11.000 The whole thing's nuts.

01:04:13.000 It's nuts because I would have wanted to know what that kid was on.

01:04:17.000 I guarantee there was some sort of psychotropic medicine involved.

01:04:20.000 There was something involved.

01:04:22.000 I do not think, if you're going to, let's assume that someone trained him, told him how to do this.

01:04:28.000 Let's assume this wasn't a young 20-year-old kid with very sophisticated detonators and remote controls and all these different things that we know that he possessed.

01:04:37.000 Had this rifle, brought the rifle onto the roof.

01:04:41.000 Also, why did he have iron sights?

01:04:43.000 That's baffling to me.

01:04:44.000 Who was his gun instructor?

01:04:47.000 There were a lot of federal officers over there who went to training.

01:04:51.000 I'm not saying that any of them were like the ones.

01:04:55.000 They probably had no idea what he was going to do.

01:04:57.000 Anybody in this country, we have the Second Amendment.

01:04:59.000 Anyone can go and learn how to shoot a gun.

01:05:02.000 There's courses you can take.

01:05:04.000 I've taken them.

01:05:04.000 You can go and learn how to shoot guns.

01:05:06.000 Exactly.

01:05:09.000 You know, having kind of a mentor with things like that.

01:05:12.000 If you learn how to fight box, you wind up having somebody kind of becomes your mentor.

01:05:19.000 And that's how you get kind of indoctrinated.

01:05:24.000 Right.

01:05:24.000 Where's that guy?

01:05:25.000 Where is that guy?

01:05:27.000 The kid was really smart.

01:05:29.000 He won all the science fairs, from what I understand.

01:05:33.000 So he was very adept at all that.

01:05:40.000 There's still some stuff supposedly that's encrypted that they can't touch.

01:05:45.000 Like, you know, sources over to Europe or whatever they're saying.

01:05:51.000 We don't know.

01:05:52.000 I don't know what I'm talking about with that because it's only been inferred.

01:05:56.000 But what are they doing?

01:05:58.000 Why is it just inferred?

01:06:00.000 Why are they not still on it like a daily thing with like...

01:06:06.000 Nightline daily reports about it.

01:06:09.000 Why didn't they test his blood?

01:06:11.000 Why didn't they tell us whether or not he was on any kind of medication?

01:06:14.000 Were there ties to Iran or to China or to Russia or to...

01:06:21.000 Venezuela.

01:06:25.000 How is it just memory hold?

01:06:26.000 Yeah.

01:06:27.000 It's crazy.

01:06:28.000 Yeah.

01:06:28.000 It's crazy.

01:06:29.000 The whole thing's crazy.

01:06:30.000 And then there's like allegations of second gunmen, which is always the case with any kind of assassination.

01:06:35.000 Yeah, of course. 0.73

01:06:35.000 The thing that would have been horrific if he had successfully shot Trump, if he killed him and then they killed him. 0.73

01:06:45.000 That would have been it. 1.00

01:06:46.000 Yeah.

01:06:46.000 It would have no idea what happened and they probably would have memory hold it all the exact same way they did it now and then they would have said the country has to heal and move on.

01:06:55.000 Right.

01:06:56.000 Yeah, there are long national nightmares over language like that.

01:07:02.000 You know, what if the kid had just been wounded?

01:07:05.000 Right.

01:07:05.000 I don't think he would have made it to jail alive.

01:07:07.000 They weren't.

01:07:08.000 They weren't going to be wounded.

01:07:09.000 They had a clear shot on that kid.

01:07:11.000 I'm just amazed that they let him get off those shots.

01:07:14.000 That's just the craziest thing to me, that they knew he was there.

01:07:17.000 How did you see him running across the roof while Trump is speaking? 1.00

01:07:19.000 He had a fucking rangefinder. 1.00

01:07:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:22.000 Like I use in golf. 1.00

01:07:24.000 Yeah.

01:07:24.000 They were quite good.

01:07:25.000 I use in archery.

01:07:26.000 Yeah.

01:07:26.000 He wanted to know what the yardage was so he could hold for a particular height.

01:07:31.000 Right.

01:07:32.000 But I don't understand the iron sights thing.

01:07:35.000 The only thing that makes me- What are iron sights?

01:07:36.000 Okay.

01:07:37.000 So rifles either have a scope, which is a magnification scope, which is extremely accurate, but you have to adjust it, or they can have iron sights.

01:07:45.000 And iron sights are like, oh, you have a pistol.

01:07:46.000 A pistol.

01:07:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:48.000 Between the two.

01:07:48.000 Two forks in the back.

01:07:49.000 Exactly.

01:07:49.000 Between the two forks.

01:07:50.000 Those are called iron sights.

01:07:51.000 Yes.

01:07:52.000 I thought he did have a scope.

01:07:55.000 He didn't have a scope.

01:07:55.000 I don't believe he did.

01:07:56.000 I don't believe he did.

01:07:57.000 See if that's been proven, because there's a photograph of the gun, and the gun, it looks...

01:08:02.000 Very clear from the photograph that it does not have a scope on it.

01:08:06.000 Scope is, you know, it's a large tube that sits on the top of the rifle, and you have to adjust that scope.

01:08:13.000 It takes a little doing to even attach that, does it not?

01:08:17.000 I mean, some can click in, but I would imagine you really have to.

01:08:21.000 It's not that complicated.

01:08:22.000 You could do it, and then you would need to go to a range and sight it in.

01:08:25.000 The problem with a scope would be that if things were getting jostled around and knocked around, if you bang the scope on something, it can get moved just a fraction of a millimeter to the left or to the right, and then your zero point at whatever he's got it zeroed at,

01:08:43.000 if it's 100 yards or 150 yards, it's going to be off.

01:08:47.000 Exactly.

01:08:49.000 The distance will get further away.

01:08:51.000 Yes.

01:08:51.000 So you have to probably redo it.

01:08:53.000 I've had personal experience with that.

01:08:55.000 I was on a deer hunt.

01:08:56.000 I fell with a rifle.

01:08:57.000 And I fell going up a snowy slope.

01:09:01.000 And the rifle got banged and my scope was off.

01:09:04.000 About like 6 inches at 100 yards.

01:09:06.000 So I could see how maybe...

01:09:09.000 But that was because my scope wasn't tightened.

01:09:10.000 Somebody had not tightened it down properly.

01:09:13.000 I could see how maybe you would say iron sights because it's not that far of a shot.

01:09:18.000 Yeah, because I've practiced with the iron sights.

01:09:20.000 I know the iron sights.

01:09:22.000 It's one factor you can take out that is not going to be a variable.

01:09:27.000 Exactly.

01:09:28.000 Some competition shooters, the old school guys, they don't like red dots because they want to use iron sights because it's so reliable.

01:09:35.000 As long as you can line it up correctly, as long as you have proper technique and you're accustomed to it, it's not going to move.

01:09:41.000 It's not going to go left or right, whereas And you can actually see everything around you even better than looking through a scope.

01:09:48.000 Yeah, but if you're looking through a scope, you get magnification.

01:09:50.000 So you can put that crosshair right on his face.

01:09:53.000 And then at 150 yards with a magnification and a scope that's on, that's an easy shot.

01:09:59.000 That's really easy.

01:10:00.000 It's very easy, especially in a prone position like he was on the top of a roof.

01:10:04.000 But there's so many questions. 0.98

01:10:06.000 How the fuck did they let him do that? 0.98

01:10:07.000 How'd they let him get up there? 0.95

01:10:09.000 What kind of security breach is involved?

01:10:11.000 And how about the lady who was in charge of Secret Service? 1.00

01:10:14.000 She didn't want to step down.

01:10:16.000 Yeah, what was that?

01:10:17.000 The whole thing is insane.

01:10:18.000 I mean, she didn't even go to the site.

01:10:20.000 Even a week later, she went before Congress to explain some things, and she hadn't even been to the site.

01:10:29.000 Yeah.

01:10:30.000 It's bonkers.

01:10:36.000 It's like he wasn't available for comment because he's still running the investigation.

01:10:42.000 This is the guy who's responsible for all this happening, and he's the one that's running the investigation.

01:10:49.000 Are you out of your mind?

01:10:51.000 The whole thing's crazy.

01:10:52.000 It's crazy.

01:10:53.000 And it's going to be a footnote in history that people are going to be baffled by.

01:10:58.000 Just like they're baffled by the JFK assassination, they're going to be baffled by this.

01:11:01.000 Well, because he wasn't killed and his head didn't blow up on national television, It's...

01:11:11.000 Yeah, it's just that.

01:11:12.000 It's just a footnote.

01:11:13.000 It's not like...

01:11:15.000 Thank God he missed.

01:11:17.000 That's all I can say.

01:11:18.000 I know.

01:11:18.000 Thank God he missed.

01:11:19.000 Who knows what would have happened to the country.

01:11:20.000 So there's the gun.

01:11:21.000 So I'm looking at that gun right now, and that gun to me looks like it has iron sights.

01:11:26.000 This is why I say that.

01:11:27.000 You see the handle at the bottom.

01:11:29.000 You see the magazine.

01:11:30.000 So the handle is in the...

01:11:31.000 That's the magazine where you're at, the further one forward.

01:11:34.000 And the one behind it, that's the handle.

01:11:36.000 And then you see above, those are iron sights.

01:11:38.000 So there's no scope on it.

01:11:40.000 As far as regular sights go, those are a little bigger than the regular sighting on a rifle.

01:11:50.000 Right, because it's an AR. It's an AR rifle.

01:11:53.000 Maybe that's a red dot.

01:11:55.000 Maybe it's a miniature red dot.

01:11:58.000 You mean they're in the middle above the magazine?

01:12:00.000 But it doesn't look like it.

01:12:02.000 It looks like...

01:12:06.000 That's not a scope.

01:12:07.000 Someone on that picture said that the iron sights were set up at a 90-degree angle so it could be shot from prone, so sideways.

01:12:15.000 And I can't tell.

01:12:18.000 It's so hard to say.

01:12:19.000 You had the cops carrying the rifle down the hallway so everybody, the whole public, could see it, the murder weapon.

01:12:29.000 Right.

01:12:30.000 And this is what Americans have gotten used to.

01:12:35.000 They've gotten used to the idea that we're not allowed to see information that we have a right to see as a public.

01:12:45.000 This country is supposedly – we're the boss.

01:12:49.000 The people are.

01:12:50.000 And we deserve information so that we can make a decision about it.

01:12:57.000 Or we can have the people that we've elected make a decision about it by giving them the power to do so, given to them by us.

01:13:07.000 And now we get information that's either distorted or it's fake or it's just withheld, and that's just the way things are.

01:13:22.000 People have gotten used to that idea.

01:13:24.000 Yeah.

01:13:25.000 And that's how we lose our country and our republic.

01:13:32.000 Right.

01:13:32.000 That's how we lose it.

01:13:34.000 Yeah.

01:13:35.000 See, Google whether or not there's a definitive answer as to whether or not he had iron sights.

01:13:41.000 I found nothing.

01:13:42.000 That's so crazy that we don't know.

01:13:44.000 I don't know where to look either, but I didn't find any updates.

01:13:47.000 Just Google this.

01:13:48.000 Did the Trump shooter have a scope on his rifle?

01:13:52.000 100% did.

01:13:52.000 Did Thomas Crook's rifle have a scope?

01:13:54.000 And what does it say?

01:13:55.000 I mean, I have nothing.

01:13:57.000 I would have found the answer.

01:13:58.000 I didn't wait.

01:13:59.000 They always kind of portray it in the...

01:14:03.000 In the coverage, it was kind of, at least at first, portrayed as like a rifle with a scope in a couple of places.

01:14:10.000 I thought it did have a scope, but...

01:14:13.000 It's possible that it's a very small miniature scope, but like a red dot, like on a pistol, generally doesn't have magnification.

01:14:22.000 It's just the dot.

01:14:24.000 What was he doing with the...

01:14:25.000 Here's another question.

01:14:27.000 Those explosive devices, which were in the car, what were they for?

01:14:32.000 Right.

01:14:33.000 And how did he learn how to do that?

01:14:35.000 Where do you get those when you're 20 years old?

01:14:39.000 Like I said, he won science fairs.

01:14:41.000 I think he was quite adept at getting that info.

01:14:45.000 Well, wouldn't we know that this kid had Google search how to use explosive devices and figured out how to get the detonators, figured out how to wire it, how he learned?

01:14:53.000 We don't know anything.

01:14:54.000 Sure.

01:14:54.000 We don't know anything about this kid.

01:14:55.000 A fertilizer bomb and all that. 0.81

01:14:58.000 What were they for?

01:14:59.000 Right.

01:14:59.000 What were they for?

01:14:59.000 He had to have an intent for that.

01:15:02.000 Right.

01:15:03.000 And you can figure it out even though he's not here.

01:15:07.000 You can figure out an intent.

01:15:11.000 Certainly he wouldn't get away, otherwise he would have had him on him.

01:15:15.000 Right.

01:15:15.000 Do you think he thought he was going to survive?

01:15:17.000 I mean, was it a suicide run for this kid?

01:15:20.000 That's why I want to know what drugs was he on.

01:15:21.000 We don't have any toxicology report on this kid.

01:15:25.000 Right.

01:15:26.000 Which is crazy.

01:15:28.000 That is crazy.

01:15:28.000 They have it for every school shooter.

01:15:30.000 Yeah, the people...

01:15:32.000 Are entitled to know the toxicology report.

01:15:37.000 Jim Belushi died, and they told everybody his toxicology report within three weeks for it to come back.

01:15:45.000 That's because he died of it, right?

01:15:46.000 He died of an overdose.

01:15:47.000 Yeah, but still, I'm talking about the right to privacy versus the public's right to know.

01:15:53.000 Yeah.

01:15:54.000 Well, in this particular situation, the right to know is imperative.

01:15:58.000 Is there something that was given to this kid that made him do something that insane?

01:16:04.000 Because there are things that they can give you that will completely distort your understanding of reality.

01:16:10.000 Which is why they gave the Nazis meth. 0.99

01:16:13.000 This is the whole reason for it because you would do wild shit when you're hopped up on amphetamines. 0.99

01:16:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:16:20.000 You can give somebody Klonopin and start this anxiety and you don't know whether you're... 0.99

01:16:27.000 You could make one decision one minute, angst about it the next.

01:16:31.000 Right.

01:16:31.000 And be very influenced.

01:16:33.000 Right. 0.93

01:16:36.000 Also, the idea that we know all the psychotropic drugs that the government is experimenting on, that's ridiculous, too.

01:16:42.000 Well, I experimented with them a couple of times.

01:16:46.000 What would you think?

01:16:47.000 Not all of them, though.

01:16:48.000 Since 1990, they got some stuff coming out now, from what I hear.

01:16:53.000 Well, you got off the cocaine train at the exact right time, you know, because now you're literally rolling the dice with fentanyl.

01:17:00.000 Yeah, fentanyl.

01:17:01.000 But it's...

01:17:07.000 You know, it hasn't always been like this, the way you and I are talking.

01:17:13.000 And it's been a very, very long time since it seems that common sense prevailed in the end in this country.

01:17:25.000 Yeah.

01:17:27.000 I so want it back.

01:17:32.000 I'm not even talking about having everything go the way I want it to go.

01:17:41.000 To get back to a time when whoever was in the White House and at least we were a people that could at least agree 70% of the time And I think we are a people that agree 70% of the time as a whole.

01:18:04.000 But that's impossible now.

01:18:09.000 Right.

01:18:09.000 We're being manipulated too much.

01:18:11.000 And most people are just not savvy enough to understand the effect of this manipulation, which is – I think that's a big factor we're experiencing.

01:18:20.000 There's just a lot of people that aren't even aware of all the things that we're talking about.

01:18:24.000 There's a lot of people out there that think, oh, Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. 0.90

01:18:27.000 Lone gunman, crazy guy.

01:18:29.000 Well, I thought that for a very long time myself. 0.85

01:18:32.000 Really?

01:18:33.000 Yeah.

01:18:33.000 After about 12, 15 years, it started to sound like conspiracy theories to me and stuff.

01:18:41.000 And then I completely switched over again because of evidence, really, that's coming out.

01:18:50.000 I really want to see the rest of the files.

01:18:53.000 And why are they not releasing the files?

01:18:55.000 I know Trump released a bunch of them, but I guess there's people living that.

01:19:02.000 Well, there's also the complete erosion of faith in the intelligence agencies.

01:19:06.000 If it turns out that the CIA did kill JFK, or that they were involved in the killing of JFK, and it could be proven, which is what Tucker Carlson's been saying.

01:19:15.000 If that is the truth, that would be...

01:19:18.000 I mean it would throw the whole country into a tailspin. 0.99

01:19:21.000 We wouldn't know what the fuck to do because if you really found out that in 1963 they organized an assassination on the president, pulled it off, killed him, lied to the public, published this bullshit Warren Commission report. 0.99

01:19:34.000 Tried to pass off this nonsense of the magic bullet. 0.99

01:19:37.000 All that stuff.

01:19:38.000 All that stuff.

01:19:39.000 John Foster Dulles, who ran the CIA, you know, they had been – they just pulled off one a month before with Diem in South Vietnam where he was assassinated.

01:19:53.000 And Kennedy was shot, and then the Warren Report...

01:19:57.000 The head of the CIA was the head of the...

01:20:02.000 Yeah, Dulles, Alan Dulles.

01:20:04.000 Yeah, Alan Dulles of the...

01:20:06.000 I said John Foster.

01:20:07.000 Alan Dulles was the head of the Warren Commission.

01:20:10.000 Which is nuts, because Kennedy had fired him.

01:20:12.000 Yeah, had fired him because he was doing things behind his back.

01:20:17.000 And so then that guy becomes the head of the Warren Commission Report, and then Gerald Ford...

01:20:22.000 Also on the Warren Commission Report, then takes over when Nixon gets kicked out of office.

01:20:27.000 And then you find out through – I mean, Tucker Carlson explained it to us that the whole Nixon thing was essentially an FBI-CIA op to get Nixon out of office.

01:20:37.000 And Nixon was apparently, like, very interested in finding out who had shot JFK. Yeah.

01:20:42.000 And also the Vietnam War that was going on.

01:20:45.000 The CIA was very – in fact, that's kind of where it started, along with the Bay of Pigs.

01:20:50.000 Which Kennedy inherited.

01:20:52.000 That was an operation going on.

01:20:54.000 But the Cuban Missile Crisis was another one.

01:20:57.000 Kennedy having actually a secret dialogue with Khrushchev that was going on that I guess today they would call collusion.

01:21:05.000 I don't know.

01:21:06.000 But they were making great progress in that.

01:21:09.000 But Vietnam – he had gotten the Russians to agree to make Laos a neutral country in that – And we had American GIs even before it was an actual war,

01:21:26.000 which it never was, but getting killed over there.

01:21:28.000 And Kennedy was wanting to do the same thing with Vietnam, have it be a neutral country, and was making progress with Khrushchev.

01:21:39.000 In a way towards that, but the CIA's involvement over there, they, you know, they openly and were the Joint Chiefs in meetings.

01:21:55.000 Kennedy had lost control of the Joint Chiefs and decisions that were being made there.

01:22:04.000 They were totally going against him and I believe too that it was the CIA that took him out because of their agenda and the mood that was in the country.

01:22:19.000 It's crazy.

01:22:20.000 The whole thing's crazy.

01:22:21.000 It's crazy to look back on it and think about it.

01:22:23.000 And even the fact that we know now for a fact that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag, which is what got us into Vietnam in the first place, and that no one went to jail for that.

01:22:33.000 Yeah.

01:22:34.000 When Johnson came in, I don't think Johnson had Was involved in the assassination of Kennedy.

01:22:40.000 But when Johnson did come in, you know, he had a different kind of bend on that and said, you guys will get your war right after, you know, the election, is what he told the Joint Chiefs, because they really wanted it.

01:22:56.000 And, you know, lo and behold, after he was elected, the Gulf of Tonkin incident happens.

01:23:01.000 Way you go.

01:23:03.000 Way you go.

01:23:04.000 Yeah, it's wild.

01:23:05.000 And then we're dealing with a more sophisticated, much better concealed version of that apparatus right now.

01:23:12.000 Yes.

01:23:13.000 That's what this book really got me to thinking.

01:23:18.000 Okay, if all this was going on then, how much more sophisticated is it now?

01:23:24.000 Right.

01:23:29.000 The CIA was created by Truman.

01:23:32.000 They haven't just been around.

01:23:33.000 It was created by Truman, and they were supposed to act as foreign agents in other countries.

01:23:40.000 And they were basically given, you know, like James Bond, license to kill and also the license to lie before Congress.

01:23:50.000 They were given to keep things secret as they could.

01:23:53.000 And Truman came to, like, not even a year after he had created it, He came to regret it that he'd even created that office because it turns into a government within a government that has its fingers in every pie,

01:24:11.000 especially the military.

01:24:16.000 It's a dangerous place.

01:24:17.000 Kennedy himself wanted to get rid of the CIA, in fact.

01:24:29.000 Later after 9-11, we just really gave them the keys to the kingdom because you're allowed in the homeland to do the same thing.

01:24:36.000 And then the Patriot Act and NDAA, all those different things that gave them the ability to spy on people.

01:24:42.000 And then what we found from Edward Snowden about the NSA and all of it.

01:24:47.000 It's just wild stuff, man.

01:24:49.000 And most people aren't even aware of it.

01:24:51.000 That's what's really crazy.

01:24:52.000 Go to what we were told about with Iraq before we went in there and the weapons of mass destruction and the like, which everybody believed, no matter what side you were on.

01:25:05.000 It's pretty crazy.

01:25:07.000 And it's literally what Truman was warning everybody about when he left office.

01:25:11.000 Yeah.

01:25:12.000 That famous speech about the military industrial.

01:25:14.000 Well, that was Eisenhower.

01:25:15.000 I'm sorry.

01:25:16.000 Eisenhower came in and gave that same speech and had a meeting with Kennedy about the beware of the military industrial establishment.

01:25:23.000 And especially Eisenhower because he was such a respected person.

01:25:26.000 So for him to say that.

01:25:28.000 But it was one of those things that you say it on television, people hear it, and then you never saw it again.

01:25:33.000 Because it wasn't the time where there was the internet. 0.99

01:25:36.000 There was no one watching that clip on YouTube saying, what the fuck is he saying? 0.97

01:25:39.000 Yeah, what was he talking about? 0.98

01:25:40.000 Exactly.

01:25:42.000 A speech at the American University, which was about peace and about the Soviet Union and the United States, you know, learning to live together.

01:25:53.000 In fact, the test ban treaty came out of that, which was hardly covered in the news actually back then.

01:26:03.000 Because everybody was so pro-war. 0.88

01:26:05.000 I mean, I grew up, we were getting under our school desk.

01:26:10.000 Like, at least once every two weeks in case of a nuclear war, it was going to happen.

01:26:16.000 I lived within the circle of zone in Houston there that, you know, the Cubans were going to send the missiles. 0.87

01:26:22.000 I got kept home from school.

01:26:24.000 It was happening.

01:26:25.000 We lived with that until, you know...

01:26:29.000 And Reagan, the Pope, and Valenza, along with Margaret Thatcher, ended the Cold War.

01:26:37.000 Yeah.

01:26:37.000 And, you know, it's...

01:26:40.000 But I digress.

01:26:42.000 I remember those days.

01:26:43.000 I remember those days in school where they would make you do drills.

01:26:46.000 And they would play videos showing you how to get under your desk.

01:26:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:26:50.000 As if that's going to protect you from a fucking nuclear bomb. 1.00

01:26:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:26:53.000 A desk?

01:26:55.000 Yeah.

01:26:56.000 That's...

01:26:57.000 We were terrified.

01:26:59.000 Like, we grew up with an existential fear of a nuclear war with Russia.

01:27:03.000 Yeah, and it was real.

01:27:07.000 There was about a 90% chance that it was going to happen, especially during the 60s, and then again with the Carter administration and to Reagan,

01:27:23.000 because We'd appease them.

01:27:26.000 We'd given away so much, and they were building their military up.

01:27:30.000 And it really was like a chess game.

01:27:33.000 But there was a hawk, a pro-war survivability after a— Nuclear attack was a big topic.

01:27:47.000 Sure.

01:27:47.000 Let's talk to Strangelove.

01:27:48.000 Yeah, like Curtis LeMay, you know, one of the Joint Chiefs, you know, who was a big admiral during World War II and ran the Pacific campaign, basically.

01:27:59.000 But, you know, he was saying, well, you know, we could survive this.

01:28:02.000 You know, 50 million people, yes, would be killed, but we will survive.

01:28:08.000 Survive to what?

01:28:10.000 Right.

01:28:10.000 That was the mentality.

01:28:11.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:28:12.000 That's how much they wanted to defeat communism.

01:28:16.000 Right.

01:28:17.000 And it's literally a comedy in Dr. Strangelove, him explaining that.

01:28:22.000 Yes.

01:28:22.000 It's literally a comedy because people are like, what?

01:28:25.000 Yeah.

01:28:26.000 Yeah.

01:28:27.000 Yeah.

01:28:27.000 I encourage anybody to watch that movie.

01:28:29.000 Floridation Mandrake.

01:28:30.000 Yeah.

01:28:31.000 It's crazy.

01:28:32.000 They were like, well, we might lose 50 million people.

01:28:35.000 We'll be okay.

01:28:35.000 We'll still have 100. Yeah.

01:28:37.000 Yeah.

01:28:38.000 We might lose a third of the country.

01:28:40.000 Because back then it was probably, that was probably the population, right?

01:28:43.000 It was probably 150 million.

01:28:44.000 It was about 150 million back then.

01:28:46.000 So a third would be gone.

01:28:48.000 No big deal.

01:28:49.000 Yeah, Strange Love.

01:28:50.000 It's such a great movie to still watch.

01:28:52.000 They had the tunnels they had built ahead of time.

01:28:57.000 And I think it was like eight females to one male. 0.54

01:29:07.000 So we can continue to make babies. 0.83

01:29:10.000 Repopulate the earth.

01:29:10.000 So we can repopulate very quickly.

01:29:11.000 What the fuck? 0.99

01:29:13.000 Or how about no war, guys? 1.00

01:29:14.000 How about that?

01:29:15.000 How about that?

01:29:15.000 Is that possible?

01:29:16.000 Is it possible to just fucking make friends with everybody? 0.81

01:29:18.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:29:18.000 Jesus Christ, can't we all get along? 0.97

01:29:20.000 It's a big-ass world.

01:29:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:29:21.000 Is there a way to do this without killing hundreds of millions of people, you fucking idiots? 1.00

01:29:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:29:25.000 Rodney King, actually, he was right. 1.00

01:29:27.000 Can't we all just get along?

01:29:29.000 Because that's the first thing that comes up in my mind these days.

01:29:31.000 Yeah.

01:29:32.000 Can't we all just get along?

01:29:33.000 Yeah.

01:29:35.000 Isn't that nuts?

01:29:36.000 Rodney King, Voice of Reason.

01:29:38.000 Yeah.

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:40.000 Voice of reason.

01:29:41.000 And Ronald Reagan.

01:29:42.000 Well, yeah.

01:29:43.000 Ronald Reagan, if you listen to his speeches today, he's incredibly reasonable.

01:29:49.000 I mean, we were told, like, I grew up in a very liberal household, and Reagan was the bad guy.

01:29:56.000 Like, everybody hated Reagan, trickled down economics.

01:29:59.000 It's bad for the country. 0.97

01:30:00.000 It's a bunch of greedy people. 0.95

01:30:01.000 War monger. 0.72

01:30:02.000 Yeah.

01:30:02.000 Letting them control the country.

01:30:03.000 You listen to him talk now.

01:30:05.000 You know, one of the great speeches he gave in front of the UN, it really got all the crazy UFO conspiracy theories.

01:30:13.000 Those guys went nuts because he said how quickly we would put aside our differences if we were faced from an alien threat from outside this world.

01:30:21.000 It's a great perspective because it's so true.

01:30:23.000 It's so true. 0.84

01:30:24.000 We come together like that.

01:30:25.000 Yeah.

01:30:25.000 And we should be a community on a planet.

01:30:28.000 And it is possible in an alternative universe with different circumstances that we could have evolved into a community.

01:30:37.000 And it's possible, I think, in the future.

01:30:39.000 If big tech and these ideologies don't get a hold of us, we can communicate as individuals and realize that Most of our differences are bullshit, and most of what's going on is the battle of control over resources.

01:30:53.000 And if, instead, human beings had the ability to communicate with each other and have real, true access to information and know exactly what's going on, and be able to relay what their concerns and needs are, most people just want to be happy.

01:31:07.000 Instead of keeping secrets.

01:31:08.000 Yes.

01:31:08.000 Exactly.

01:31:09.000 It's the keeping of secrets from them.

01:31:13.000 It's us and them.

01:31:14.000 I mean, Kennedy himself was...

01:31:16.000 He was – he wanted to – for the Russians to – the Soviets – To join our space program and do a joint venture to send a man to the moon.

01:31:29.000 That's where he'd come to.

01:31:31.000 This was during the Test Ban Treaty because, you know, it's about the rocket secrets and all the rest of that stuff.

01:31:39.000 Can you imagine putting their minds and our minds together?

01:31:43.000 Yeah.

01:31:44.000 And doing this as a joint venture, there would have to be relinquishing of secrets because it's military.

01:31:51.000 That's why, of course, it...

01:31:53.000 They wouldn't allow that to happen.

01:31:55.000 But once you start doing that and having that shared technology without keeping secrets from each other, that's where people and nations do come together.

01:32:10.000 Because we don't mistrust each other because we're armed.

01:32:18.000 We're armed because we mistrust each other.

01:32:20.000 Right, right.

01:32:22.000 And that's what Reagan said to Gorbachev in Vienna, which got the conversation going.

01:32:30.000 And...

01:32:33.000 Well, now there's the same conversation that's going on right now with AI. Because AI weaponry and the ability to have weapons that don't rely at all on human interaction.

01:32:45.000 No people making decisions or pressing buttons.

01:32:48.000 Completely powered by AI. If that happens, this is a very, very dangerous situation.

01:32:54.000 Again, Dr. Strangelove down there.

01:32:55.000 No morals, no ethics.

01:32:57.000 This mad race is again.

01:33:00.000 This is the height of tech right because you have tech people that are Communicating about things to Congress where the people that are asking the questions really have no understanding of what these guys are doing or what what's really possible and what's capable and yeah,

01:33:15.000 there's There's problems because they lose information, like information gets stolen, and they're dealing with that right now.

01:33:23.000 They think that China has access to the top-level AI that we're producing right now.

01:33:29.000 Right.

01:33:30.000 There's a real concern about that.

01:33:32.000 Where do those attacks really come from sometimes?

01:33:35.000 Are you even concerned about that?

01:33:37.000 Is it Korea?

01:33:38.000 Is it China or whatever?

01:33:39.000 Right.

01:33:41.000 All that.

01:33:42.000 But yeah, AI does scare me.

01:33:47.000 But then, you know, it's called progress, and there is no going back from progress.

01:33:52.000 No.

01:33:52.000 It's what we do.

01:33:53.000 We just got to keep up.

01:33:54.000 Yeah.

01:33:55.000 We really got to keep up now.

01:33:56.000 How do you keep up with that, though?

01:33:58.000 That's the question.

01:33:58.000 Everything happens so much faster.

01:34:02.000 They had a little...

01:34:03.000 They had kind of a running start with...

01:34:08.000 Nuclear bombs, you know, and that because it took a while to develop over time and now things come along so quickly and, you know, the more we know, the more we can know.

01:34:25.000 It's a scary world.

01:34:29.000 So is the reluctance that people have to allow, like, the resistance against this Reagan film, do you think it's resistance about conservatism in general, or is it the idea that you're going to change people's perceptions about history?

01:34:47.000 Because there's a lot of people, again, that have this very peripheral, low-information view of who Reagan was, and so they want to have this negative spin on Reagan in history because he's a conservative.

01:34:58.000 I think, you know, Reagan was a great president and I think it gets perceived and compared to Trump, you know, because there are comparisons to Trump and the things that you get down to policy.

01:35:14.000 There's a really good comparison to Trump, and maybe they see this as influencing an election by that comparison or whatever.

01:35:31.000 You know, it's a free society.

01:35:33.000 It's about ideas we're able to express and we're able to, like, make up your own mind about it rather than deciding for people about what it was.

01:35:43.000 And the Reagan movie is not about ideology at all.

01:35:48.000 I mean, Reagan was a Democrat for 40 years, until the last 40 years of his life, or 35, he was a Republican.

01:35:58.000 And it's about the Cold War and about his fight against communism and you know we won the Cold War under Reagan and it was before that appeasement had been practiced in this Jimmy Carter,

01:36:15.000 God bless him, he did really well with the Egyptians and Israel in making peace in the Middle East.

01:36:22.000 He was great about that.

01:36:23.000 He wasn't so great with the Iran hostage thing.

01:36:27.000 You remember the foiled, disastrous rescue attempt back then.

01:36:34.000 It seemed like everything failed.

01:36:37.000 But with the Soviets, he had appeased it like You know, gave away the B-1 bomber. 0.87

01:36:44.000 He gave away a lot of things without getting anything in return from the Soviets as far as reducing the threat of war.

01:36:53.000 And they took that, of course, as weakness and started to really build up their military and their missile strength to an unprecedented level.

01:37:07.000 Americans were There's a lot about America that it's kind of sweet in a way that, you know, the kumbaya thing, you know, why can't we be friends and just, you know, humanity.

01:37:23.000 That's the good-hearted, fantastic thing about America.

01:37:28.000 But that's not the way the world works.

01:37:31.000 We're all a product of the way that we grew up.

01:37:35.000 Basically growing up in this country with relative safety and we have, you know, a nation that has had laws that, you know, form of law and you do things the right way and the wrong way of what you consider.

01:37:49.000 But, you know, can you imagine what it was like for Saddam to grow up in Iraq?

01:37:55.000 Or Chi, or Putin, and the way they grew up, that makes them the way they are, and the Russian people had grown up the same way.

01:38:04.000 So you start to get a sense of how the rest of the world doesn't operate on the same rules that we are.

01:38:14.000 They actually have a more realistic way of looking at things the way man has actually been from the tribal stage on.

01:38:24.000 You know, you got the water, and we want the water.

01:38:27.000 We don't want to share it.

01:38:28.000 We want it ours. 0.88

01:38:29.000 Because you'll piss in it, and it'll destroy it. 0.82

01:38:33.000 So we want it for ourselves.

01:38:36.000 But Reagan came along, and he had the idea to bankrupt them, to make them spin.

01:38:47.000 Star Wars...

01:38:49.000 He came out with Star Wars.

01:38:50.000 He really got that name from the movie, the whole Star Wars thing, which is now the Patriot defense system over in Israel.

01:39:00.000 It didn't exist at that time.

01:39:01.000 It was decades away from it.

01:39:03.000 But he made the Russians think at least 10% that it might be real.

01:39:09.000 Reagan even offered to share it with them in exchange for, let's take our missiles down to zero.

01:39:19.000 You know, I got mad at him in Iceland when I thought he was acting like an old codger because they came up and said, we're offering you this, you know, half the missiles or this or that.

01:39:32.000 And he said, no, because they wanted us to get rid of Star Wars, which didn't exist.

01:39:38.000 I said, well, you know, you have to get rid of Star Wars.

01:39:42.000 And if we'd done that, the Soviets would have just gone on their merry way and been doing what they would have had been doing. 0.93

01:39:51.000 But Reagan said no.

01:39:53.000 And the Soviet Union came toppling down, but it was great progress that he made, and it took a cold warrior. 0.88

01:40:02.000 Hard-assed cold warrior to be able to negotiate with them.

01:40:09.000 And that's what we don't have today.

01:40:12.000 Right.

01:40:13.000 Yeah.

01:40:15.000 How much research did you have to do on Reagan before you did this film?

01:40:19.000 Did you...

01:40:20.000 Did you do a deep dive?

01:40:22.000 Yeah.

01:40:22.000 Well, for one thing, I lived through it.

01:40:24.000 I remember every single thing, because even back then, I was a big news wonk, even though I had three channels, three news channels.

01:40:33.000 And also, when I was offered the part, he was my favorite president, okay?

01:40:42.000 I didn't say yes.

01:40:43.000 I didn't say no.

01:40:44.000 He's like Muhammad Ali.

01:40:46.000 He's known all over the world.

01:40:50.000 People know what he looks like, sounds like, and the like.

01:40:53.000 And I didn't want to do an impression, impersonation, like Saturday Night Live.

01:40:58.000 Because when I play a real person, I want to play it from their point of view.

01:41:04.000 And sometimes that means warts and all.

01:41:08.000 Not just like what you did, but what are your insecurities?

01:41:12.000 What do you really care about?

01:41:14.000 How did you feel when you got jilted?

01:41:17.000 Or whatever.

01:41:19.000 That make us up who we are in the end.

01:41:22.000 And it took me a long time to say yes, but I got invited to the Reagan Ranch, which was the Western White House back then.

01:41:34.000 And when Reagan died, some friends bought it and left it exactly as it is.

01:41:40.000 He and Nancy's clothes are in the closet.

01:41:42.000 Whoa.

01:41:42.000 Yeah.

01:41:43.000 He expected them to come back.

01:41:44.000 They didn't change a thing.

01:41:46.000 And the only guy that was up there was John Bartlett, who was Reagan's Secret Service guy he rode with, rode horses with every day.

01:41:56.000 But I go up five miles to the worst road in California and get to the top of the mountain, come through the gate, and I could feel him.

01:42:05.000 I could just feel him in every square inch of that place, you know.

01:42:09.000 And I could feel...

01:42:10.000 He was a humble guy.

01:42:12.000 His library, with every book...

01:42:14.000 Is that a big bookcase?

01:42:16.000 With every book going back to, like, nine years old.

01:42:19.000 The printer of Udell is there.

01:42:23.000 And they had a king-size bed, but it was two single beds zip-tied together.

01:42:30.000 The house is 1,100 square feet, you know, maybe two rooms of this, and very simple.

01:42:40.000 And this is the Western White House.

01:42:43.000 The appliances are GE because he was a spokesman for GE back then and he bought that place after he was governor.

01:42:51.000 But either he didn't have much money or he was really cheap.

01:42:56.000 Or he wanted to live simply.

01:42:57.000 Yeah, he knew how to live simply.

01:42:59.000 It was this person and I felt him.

01:43:04.000 And then, you know, in the research, he was an actor and we both have sunny dispositions too, I think, naturally.

01:43:15.000 But I don't think...one of the things about Reagan is I don't think he ever got to where he wanted to get as an actor.

01:43:23.000 I think was one of the disappointments for him.

01:43:27.000 And, you know, his career was going towards at the end when he married Jane Wyman.

01:43:34.000 You know, who won an Academy Award, like, the next year.

01:43:39.000 And I think his self-esteem was actually pretty low at that point because he was looking for a purpose in his life that he never found until he got the...

01:43:53.000 Ran for and was elected vice president of the Screen Actors Guild, and then president of the Screen Actors Guild.

01:44:00.000 And that's not a job that anybody as an actor you aspire to be, right?

01:44:05.000 Right.

01:44:06.000 But it's like when God shuts a door, he opens a window somewhere, and this was his entry into politics.

01:44:15.000 And that's where that road started.

01:44:18.000 And at the time that he was president, the Soviet Union – they found the files after they fell, by the way, in the Soviet Union.

01:44:29.000 They were trying to infiltrate the media, of course, into movies and through the unions.

01:44:35.000 For control of that.

01:44:36.000 And that was his in earnest...

01:44:39.000 I mean, there were fistfights in Union Halls over it that he was involved in.

01:44:50.000 He did a lot of great.

01:44:51.000 The reason we actors have great health insurance is because of Ronald Reagan, by the way.

01:44:55.000 Really?

01:44:56.000 Yeah.

01:44:56.000 No kidding.

01:44:57.000 In fact, that happened in, I think it was 60 or 61, and he wasn't even president of the Screen Actors Guild then.

01:45:06.000 He had been, I think, like six years later, his term had run out.

01:45:10.000 But he came back and got that rammed through because that was the right thing to do.

01:45:16.000 That was when he was a Democrat.

01:45:18.000 Wow.

01:45:18.000 Yeah.

01:45:20.000 We have the best health insurance of any union I can think of, and that was because of Ronald Reagan.

01:45:28.000 That's wild.

01:45:29.000 Yeah.

01:45:30.000 The whole film industry is in deep trouble with AI. That's going to be a real problem.

01:45:38.000 That's going to decimate jobs. 0.99

01:45:42.000 Or it could be a future source of revenue for my kids and grandkids.

01:45:50.000 After that, well, if they want Dennis Quaid to do a movie, they could just create it.

01:45:56.000 Oh, that's true.

01:45:57.000 That is true.

01:45:58.000 Well, didn't Bruce Willis sign off on something like that?

01:46:00.000 I think he signed off on allowing them to use it because Bruce obviously has a horrible condition, aphasia.

01:46:07.000 Yeah.

01:46:08.000 And he can't act anymore.

01:46:10.000 Yeah.

01:46:10.000 And I think he signed off on digital rights for something, some limited aspect of that.

01:46:16.000 Mm-hmm.

01:46:17.000 I was – gosh, it was – what is the name of that – the boy band thing that's a dirty – It's a documentary about the guy, Peterson, I think, that started the boy bands, NSYNC,

01:46:35.000 and they had a documentary on him.

01:46:39.000 No, Bruce Willis didn't sell his likeness to a deepfake company.

01:46:42.000 That's a deepfake.

01:46:43.000 Despite initial reports.

01:46:46.000 So what did he do?

01:46:48.000 They did something like that, but the company didn't own his likeness or anything.

01:46:52.000 He did a commercial or something.

01:46:54.000 Oh, so he only signed off on this one thing?

01:46:57.000 Yeah.

01:46:57.000 Oh, so they're saying that he signed up.

01:46:59.000 Interesting.

01:47:00.000 Well, anyway, this documentary, they take this guy and they take old footage of him and they put other words in his mouth talking to the camera.

01:47:10.000 And you believe it.

01:47:13.000 I mean, it's seamless.

01:47:14.000 Right.

01:47:14.000 You can't...

01:47:18.000 So, yeah, it is scary in that way.

01:47:21.000 It also can be used for great things, you know, as well.

01:47:27.000 You know, we can...

01:47:29.000 Computing ability, you know, that would take years and years, you know, to take a couple of minutes.

01:47:36.000 Or if you're making a movie and you want to...

01:47:38.000 You can go out in an empty stadium and just create a crowd that doesn't look like cutout pictures.

01:47:43.000 Yeah.

01:47:44.000 Which was...

01:47:45.000 You know, I think, of course, it takes away extras, you know, ability to earn a living, but it also means that you can make like a $4 billion movie instead of a $40 billion movie, you know, and get smaller movies and more people have access to making movies.

01:48:04.000 That's true.

01:48:05.000 You know?

01:48:06.000 That's one way of looking at it.

01:48:08.000 Also, it might eliminate actors.

01:48:11.000 That's possible, too.

01:48:11.000 Well, that wouldn't be such a bad idea.

01:48:14.000 As long as I can play golf and somebody else comes to the set digitally, okay.

01:48:22.000 Do you think that expressing your conservative viewpoints and doing this film on Reagan, do you think this ultimately has the potential to hurt your career?

01:48:34.000 I don't care anymore.

01:48:36.000 Yeah.

01:48:37.000 There was a time that I was kind of concerned to kind of like speak my mind or speak up.

01:48:44.000 But in this – really in the last couple of years that I feel it's really important that we do – all of us speak up.

01:48:56.000 In this election, everybody has got to choose a side and we have to – In order to have this exchange of ideas and dialogue, we have to speak up.

01:49:09.000 And so, like I said, what I was doing, Reagan, there was a story that came out that I was taking money from the CDC,

01:49:24.000 $400,000.

01:49:27.000 The Trump administration had arranged so I could do a commercial for the vaccine that was coming out, none of which was true.

01:49:38.000 But, you know, it's like my son even called me like freaking out, you know, because it was like I was going to get canceled over this stuff because I was taking, I guess, taxpayer money from the CDC, you know, making money off this.

01:49:54.000 None of it was true.

01:49:55.000 And where did it come from?

01:49:56.000 Did they find the source?

01:49:57.000 I really have no idea.

01:50:00.000 And something gets circulated in social media.

01:50:03.000 So I really don't know.

01:50:08.000 But that and I remember when Trump – when COVID first started, I think it was Politico that I did a phone conversation with because I was involved with this podcast company that we were – That we were promoting.

01:50:26.000 And it just happened to be COVID. And the guy asked me what I thought about the way Trump was handling the COVID. And I said, well, at least he's there every day.

01:50:42.000 He's there every day trying to do something.

01:50:45.000 And I think when it comes to things like this, we need to get behind our president as a whole to come together to fight this thing, just like Franklin Roosevelt getting behind during World War – at the start of World War II in order to – well,

01:51:05.000 anyway, that became that I was a right-wing Trumpster and that supposedly in danger of getting canceled over that.

01:51:16.000 And then I also gave a speech about Reagan to the group in Florida after we'd made the movie, and I think there were two people that were January 6th.

01:51:30.000 People just happened to be there.

01:51:32.000 And by association, you know, that was going to be—my agents called me, like, freaking out over that.

01:51:41.000 They were like, it was going to be canceled.

01:51:42.000 They're just, like, being told to, you know, just be quiet and let things go by, you know?

01:51:48.000 And no.

01:51:53.000 I just can't.

01:51:53.000 I'm not a very good rule follower to begin with.

01:51:56.000 It's just one of those faults I've had.

01:52:00.000 Good for you.

01:52:02.000 I think that kind of makes you a good actor, too.

01:52:05.000 It's a rebellious nature.

01:52:07.000 Well, maybe that's debatable, but there's a lot of rebellious people I know who are really bad actors.

01:52:18.000 Touche.

01:52:18.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that.

01:52:20.000 I just...

01:52:22.000 I don't know.

01:52:25.000 I think we all have kind of an obligation, you want to call it, or a duty or whatever.

01:52:33.000 We're citizens of America.

01:52:35.000 We're citizens of the United States.

01:52:38.000 The country is ours.

01:52:40.000 It's the people of the United States who are supposed to run things. 0.64

01:52:44.000 And so we have to speak out.

01:52:47.000 I hated when actors spoke out about politics.

01:52:51.000 I remember the days like Richard Dreyfuss or, you know, whoever would, you know, talk shows. 1.00

01:52:59.000 And it always just sounded like so stupid. 0.99

01:53:03.000 Because, of course, they didn't know anything. 0.99

01:53:09.000 So what little I know, I do have to speak out about.

01:53:12.000 And I'm sorry, Richard, for saying that about you.

01:53:17.000 He's very vocal now.

01:53:19.000 Yeah, he always has been.

01:53:24.000 If they have the right to go on TV and talk about how I've seen several actors go on there and talk about how Biden is – I saw him.

01:53:36.000 He was in great shape. 1.00

01:53:37.000 But I have the right to go on and talk about that I'm voting for Trump because people might call him an asshole, but he's my asshole. 1.00

01:53:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:53:48.000 Well, we don't have the best choices today. 1.00

01:53:52.000 You know, it's interesting that we put so much weight on famous people.

01:53:57.000 We put so much weight on their opinion and perspectives on things.

01:54:00.000 We want a guy like George Clooney to be out there endorsing Kamala Harris and talking about the threat to democracy that is Donald Trump and all that.

01:54:07.000 Right.

01:54:08.000 Because he does it so well in the movies.

01:54:12.000 You notice Tom Hanks has been very silent.

01:54:14.000 I don't blame him.

01:54:19.000 I also think that presidents are a reflection of Who we are as a people and what our culture has become.

01:54:37.000 You know, you can go back like Reagan reflected his times.

01:54:43.000 He probably couldn't get elected today because he'd come off like Kemp, you know?

01:54:52.000 They're just kind of solid.

01:54:54.000 But, you know, along comes Trump. 1.00

01:54:58.000 Trump swears, you know, it's okay, you know, over time to say shit, fuck, piss, whatever you want on TV, you know, before that with cable news. 1.00

01:55:11.000 You know, now you can say it, but it took somebody like Trump to actually say it. 1.00

01:55:15.000 Yeah, he was really the first one that opened up that door.

01:55:17.000 Yeah, he was.

01:55:18.000 Remember that speech that he gave about how you deal with China? 1.00

01:55:20.000 You don't say, we're going to tax you 20%, and you say, listen, motherfuckers. 1.00

01:55:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:55:25.000 And everybody's like, whoa.

01:55:27.000 Yeah, I loved it.

01:55:28.000 I was like, all right.

01:55:29.000 Yeah, me too.

01:55:29.000 It's like, finally, plain speaking, just like you said it before.

01:55:34.000 Like an actual human being.

01:55:35.000 Yeah.

01:55:36.000 Because that's how actual human beings talk about something.

01:55:38.000 Respond.

01:55:38.000 Yeah.

01:55:39.000 That's what the emotions it brings up in you.

01:55:41.000 That's what you feel.

01:55:42.000 I mean, I guess Obama was the first one to really truly use social media in a way because he understood it.

01:55:52.000 And so did Trump.

01:55:53.000 I mean, he was tweeting.

01:55:56.000 That's probably why the polls didn't really reflect what was going on because people were just reading his tweets.

01:56:02.000 Right. 0.99

01:56:04.000 Well, the treats are so ridiculous. 0.97

01:56:06.000 He can't help himself. 0.98

01:56:08.000 He's got to insult people and go after people, and that's how he made his career.

01:56:15.000 I mean, that was him in the public eye.

01:56:18.000 Starting with Rosie O'Donnell.

01:56:19.000 Yeah.

01:56:19.000 I remember in that feud that got in, that was so ridiculous back then.

01:56:24.000 Leave that poor lady alone. 1.00

01:56:26.000 I do cringe sometimes at stuff, but I know where he is at the bottom of it, that he really does care about the American people, and he really...

01:56:34.000 He loves this country and he's really smart, really smart.

01:56:39.000 And he knows how to deal with foreign policy-wise, which is a huge thing with me because it could It has an effect on everything else in our culture, our economy, just the way we feel inside.

01:56:57.000 And I think he's best for that.

01:57:04.000 I'd like to see him focus more on the issues and be very disciplined about doing that because when he goes off that They love that.

01:57:18.000 Any chance that he can make it personal, they love that.

01:57:22.000 I also think that he gets sucked into some things that I think are traps.

01:57:27.000 I think one of the traps that's been set recently is the use of computer-generated imagery with Kamala Harris's campaign.

01:57:36.000 I think he got sucked into a trap.

01:57:39.000 Because he made a post about how the crowds that were at the airport to meet her were fake.

01:57:47.000 That it was CGI. And a lot of people thought that they were CGI. And there was a lot of people tweeting about it that it was CGI. And I was looking at it, and I was like, this is interesting because it's so obvious.

01:57:59.000 Why would they do that?

01:58:00.000 Well, one of the ways they would do that is to put out fake images or put out the idea that there were fake images so that he makes this post.

01:58:10.000 He would bite on it.

01:58:10.000 He bites on it.

01:58:11.000 Yeah.

01:58:11.000 And then they go, actually, there's video of it.

01:58:14.000 And then they can go back and really video in the crowds and all that and prove that it was, yeah.

01:58:19.000 Exactly.

01:58:20.000 Because they're so used to, like, Biden doing a rally, and you never see the size of the crowd, and you can feel that there's nobody there, and there's tepid applause, and you hear individual hands clapping.

01:58:32.000 Also, you can hire people to go to those things.

01:58:34.000 It's not difficult to hire a crowd.

01:58:36.000 You can get a crowd to go to a comedy show if you wanted to.

01:58:39.000 Yeah.

01:58:39.000 You can get a crowd to do almost anything.

01:58:41.000 I mean, also, they did this very wise thing, the Harris campaign, where they would have famous singers.

01:58:46.000 They would have famous singers and entertainers perform there, and then she would be there as well. 0.93

01:58:53.000 So people would essentially get a free concert.

01:58:55.000 So they would basically get a concert.

01:58:56.000 Exactly.

01:58:57.000 Not hard to get...

01:58:58.000 Not hard to do.

01:58:59.000 Especially if you have a big urban environment, you want to get 10,000 people to go to a place.

01:59:02.000 Not that hard.

01:59:03.000 Hey, and granted, you know what?

01:59:04.000 It did energize the Democrats when Joe stepped down.

01:59:12.000 Oh, yeah.

01:59:12.000 Because there was...

01:59:14.000 They knew they were fucked if he stayed in there. 1.00

01:59:16.000 Yeah, they knew it. 1.00

01:59:16.000 Every time we talked, it was getting worse. 1.00

01:59:18.000 It was a ray of hope and somebody young.

01:59:20.000 And so all the people that, you know, they got volunteers and they...

01:59:25.000 Yeah, they're going all in.

01:59:29.000 Supposedly, unless they really abscond the Republican agenda, which it seems like she's trying to do.

01:59:37.000 You know, Clinton did that, actually, in 1994. He was going to be a lame duck president.

01:59:44.000 He was going down.

01:59:46.000 And his response was in the State of Union's address, he said, the age of welfare is over.

01:59:56.000 And he basically took over the Republican agenda, and we had like six years of just incredible – the economy was amazing.

02:00:08.000 It was a force.

02:00:11.000 And she started with – Kamala now is taking over the whole no tax on tips, trying to take that over, trying to say that she's Never was the border czar. 1.00

02:00:26.000 From day one, she's going to do something about it.

02:00:29.000 I think there's like, what, four or five months left in the administration right now?

02:00:35.000 Why don't you do something about it now?

02:00:37.000 Also, denying she was the border czar when there's Hundreds of people talking on television calling her the border czar.

02:00:45.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:45.000 It's nuts.

02:00:46.000 Yeah.

02:00:47.000 Including Joe Biden himself said border czar.

02:00:51.000 Yeah, they said it on CNN, and then CNN later saying she was never the border czar.

02:00:55.000 Yeah.

02:00:55.000 Oh, she wasn't?

02:00:56.000 Yeah.

02:00:56.000 Well, why'd you say it back then?

02:00:57.000 You guys are misinformation.

02:00:59.000 Yeah.

02:01:01.000 She didn't go to the border.

02:01:03.000 She went to the border of Nicaragua and then...

02:01:09.000 The bordering country or whatever, you know, talking about the root cause and all that stuff.

02:01:14.000 Well, yeah, the root cause.

02:01:17.000 Well, it seems very coordinated, doesn't it?

02:01:19.000 The border thing?

02:01:21.000 Yeah.

02:01:21.000 That one I really want to know.

02:01:23.000 Like, what are they trying to do?

02:01:24.000 What's the end goal here?

02:01:25.000 I mean, it seems the obvious thing would be for the old idea that that's for voters, that people coming into this country are naturally Democrats, but that's not really true.

02:01:37.000 You know, I have so many Latino friends, and the people that came here the right way, I think?

02:01:59.000 So that's not true.

02:02:00.000 I mean, the only other thing would be the power, I guess.

02:02:04.000 And you definitely have less Republican votes, I guess they think, with that.

02:02:12.000 And you create chaos, which is kind of another kind of Soviet tactic. 0.77

02:02:21.000 If you want to foment revolution, that's what you do, create chaos.

02:02:26.000 Yeah.

02:02:27.000 Yeah.

02:02:27.000 So, you know, that's – we're really getting into a conspiracy theory for that.

02:02:33.000 But I just – I don't see the sense of it.

02:02:36.000 And then I have people like my housekeeper, Josie, who was over here illegally for so long in her life. 1.00

02:02:43.000 And finally, I said, you know, in fact, when Trump was going to get elected in 2016, she was, like, really, really afraid.

02:02:52.000 And I said – You know what?

02:02:56.000 We have to do this the right way.

02:03:00.000 You're going to apply for citizenship, and I'm going to sponsor you.

02:03:04.000 And so we started the process then.

02:03:08.000 We got her green card and everything.

02:03:10.000 And she went through her citizenship test with me, which she was doing.

02:03:18.000 She's failed twice, but I went through the citizenship test with her.

02:03:22.000 She got everything perfect. 0.80

02:03:24.000 But she goes over there and she gets treated like dirt. 0.98

02:03:29.000 Really. 1.00

02:03:31.000 Which is crazy that people trying to do it the right way get treated like shit. 0.99

02:03:34.000 Yeah, and she gets treated like she's doing something wrong or whatever. 1.00

02:03:38.000 And I know she could pass it because I went through the whole thing with her randomly.

02:03:44.000 And yet if you come into this country illegally, they're going to pay for your hotel.

02:03:49.000 They're going to give you $1,000 to spend.

02:03:51.000 They're going to flee.

02:03:53.000 What state do you want to go to?

02:03:55.000 And, you know, we don't get those rights.

02:04:00.000 Well, it's just insane when we have so many poor people in this country that are U.S. citizens that aren't being taken care of.

02:04:06.000 And you're just letting people come here illegally and giving them all this money. 0.79

02:04:11.000 Like, what's the end game?

02:04:13.000 Yeah.

02:04:14.000 What is the end game?

02:04:16.000 Because even the mayor of New York is complaining about it.

02:04:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:04:20.000 Well, he fucked up. 1.00

02:04:21.000 He called it a sanctuary city. 1.00

02:04:23.000 We welcome anybody.

02:04:24.000 And they're like, great.

02:04:25.000 Come on down. 0.94

02:04:26.000 Well, also, Kamala Harris has said that terrorists aren't coming in through the border.

02:04:30.000 That's not true.

02:04:31.000 They've arrested terrorists coming to the border.

02:04:32.000 Of course it is.

02:04:32.000 That's been going on for a very long time.

02:04:34.000 I mean, even back to the Bush administration where they would send floods of, like, kids.

02:04:39.000 The cartel would come down to, you know, people way down in Mexico and said, we're taking your kids, and that's it.

02:04:46.000 And you couldn't say a single thing about it.

02:04:48.000 The cartel runs Mexico, I believe.

02:04:51.000 You know, that's a fact.

02:04:53.000 And just bringing them to the border and sending in a flood of kids or whoever across the border embedded in that are terrorists.

02:05:05.000 You send in a thousand with four terrorists in it, the odds are a lot better of getting in here.

02:05:11.000 And that's been going on for a very long time.

02:05:16.000 But it's just never been as porous as it is now, right?

02:05:19.000 No.

02:05:19.000 Because now it's not just porous, it's like an open invitation.

02:05:22.000 Yeah.

02:05:22.000 Which is just insane.

02:05:24.000 And then if you want to come here from Europe, like say if you're a mathematician or something like that, or even a friend of mine from Estonia, he's a comedian.

02:05:31.000 He's trying very hard to get his green card.

02:05:32.000 It's a difficult process.

02:05:35.000 Yeah.

02:05:35.000 But if you want to come here illegally, all you have to do is walk.

02:05:38.000 Right.

02:05:38.000 They'll let you in.

02:05:39.000 They'll give you a cell phone.

02:05:40.000 They'll give you money.

02:05:41.000 They'll put you up in a hotel.

02:05:42.000 They'll give you free food.

02:05:43.000 It's crazy.

02:05:43.000 Just back there, they throw away their IDs and everything.

02:05:46.000 Yep.

02:05:46.000 Before they come across the border, you can say you're anybody.

02:05:49.000 Yeah.

02:05:49.000 From any country.

02:05:51.000 Yeah.

02:05:51.000 No genetics testing.

02:05:52.000 No questions asked.

02:05:54.000 Just, oh, hey, come to a future court date, maybe.

02:05:56.000 Yeah, it's seven years.

02:05:58.000 What state would you like to go to?

02:05:59.000 Right.

02:05:59.000 And then the court dates are years ahead.

02:06:02.000 So you get to live in this country illegally subsidized for years, and you would assume that those people are going to vote for the people that did that for them.

02:06:10.000 And I think that's part of the issue.

02:06:12.000 And there's deals made with the cartel.

02:06:17.000 The cartel is charging, what is it, $5,000 a head?

02:06:26.000 $5,000 a head times 15 million.

02:06:28.000 What does that come to?

02:06:29.000 That's a lot of money.

02:06:30.000 Jesus Christ.

02:06:31.000 I think basically our government has been paying for a lot, subsidizing them over there and dealing with the cartel.

02:06:45.000 It's—the world is turned upside down.

02:06:47.000 It really is from—at least from the world I went to. 0.97

02:06:52.000 But, you know, I'm old and so—maybe not so relevant, but— Not true.

02:07:01.000 I don't think that common sense.

02:07:04.000 I think it's always relevant, if you ask me.

02:07:07.000 It's relevant.

02:07:08.000 It's very relevant.

02:07:09.000 Everything's relevant.

02:07:10.000 It's also like everybody recognizes that this is not the best course for everybody, for the whole country.

02:07:16.000 Regardless of if you're a left-wing person, you do not want terrorists sneaking into this country and blowing up cities.

02:07:22.000 You don't.

02:07:23.000 Of course you don't.

02:07:24.000 No.

02:07:24.000 So if there's an option where they can get here easily and quickly, you would want to seal that up.

02:07:30.000 For everybody.

02:07:30.000 Even if you're a kind person that thinks we should make some sort of a path to citizenship, which I agree.

02:07:35.000 Like your housekeeper.

02:07:36.000 I agree.

02:07:36.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:07:38.000 There should be some sort of a path for people who are here.

02:07:40.000 Look, I'm the grandchild of immigrants.

02:07:43.000 People came across because they wanted a better life, but it was easier to do back then, the 20s.

02:07:47.000 Yeah.

02:07:48.000 Not hard.

02:07:48.000 Get over here.

02:07:49.000 That's true.

02:07:50.000 Settle down.

02:07:51.000 Yeah.

02:07:51.000 I mean, there should be a path and that's one of the things that made America so interesting because it's a melting pot of all these ambitious people that came here from a place that sucked and they carved out a life.

02:08:03.000 Yeah.

02:08:03.000 There should be a path.

02:08:05.000 I'm all for immigrants.

02:08:06.000 It should be a legal path.

02:08:08.000 From everywhere.

02:08:10.000 Just do it the right way.

02:08:12.000 It's better for everybody.

02:08:14.000 Yes.

02:08:15.000 Better for everybody.

02:08:16.000 That's just the way it is.

02:08:18.000 I mean, as it is now, it's just that Venezuelan gangs are all moving into the same neighborhood. 0.85

02:08:26.000 It's very much like the fight points back in the New York days.

02:08:31.000 What?

02:08:31.000 The Aurora, Colorado apartment building?

02:08:33.000 Do you know that issue?

02:08:34.000 No.

02:08:35.000 Okay.

02:08:35.000 There's an apartment building in Aurora, Colorado that has been taken over by Venezuelan gangs.

02:08:40.000 Yeah.

02:08:41.000 And so they essentially, no one can collect rent anymore.

02:08:44.000 The gang's collecting rent.

02:08:46.000 They're evicting everyone out of the building, and they're controlling this building.

02:08:50.000 And everyone's aware of it.

02:08:53.000 Yeah.

02:08:53.000 Basically squatting or using the laws of the United States.

02:08:58.000 Exactly.

02:08:59.000 Because Colorado is incredibly liberal and that area is incredibly liberal.

02:09:03.000 So see if you can find that story on the Venezuelan gangs taking over the apartment building in Colorado.

02:09:09.000 I was watching a news piece on it today where they were expressing this real confusion and frustration that there was nothing that they could be doing about this.

02:09:21.000 And that they have different doors have X's on them.

02:09:25.000 The red X's are when people have been evacuated from the apartment.

02:09:28.000 They shut it down?

02:09:29.000 They shut down Slumlord apartment.

02:09:31.000 Wait a minute.

02:09:33.000 Slumlord.

02:09:34.000 Are they saying anything about the gangs?

02:09:38.000 That's what I googled it.

02:09:39.000 Are they calling them slumlords now?

02:09:42.000 Aurora evictions draw attention to owners' neglect at other apartments.

02:09:46.000 Yeah, maybe that's true.

02:09:47.000 But what about the gangs?

02:09:49.000 That's what I googled and this is what pops up.

02:09:51.000 Yeah, see, that's the problem with Google.

02:09:53.000 There's some stories.

02:09:55.000 Okay, Special Task Force...

02:09:56.000 Check that out.

02:09:57.000 Okay, here we go.

02:09:58.000 Special Task Force investigating Venezuelan gangs alleged ties to Aurora.

02:10:02.000 Aurora City Council officials say that apartment complex on Gnome Street is closing to decode violations, but some council members allege there's more to the story.

02:10:11.000 So this is what I've been reading.

02:10:12.000 What I've been reading is that these Venezuelan gangs have occupied this thing. 1.00

02:10:16.000 The gang known as Tren de Aragua...

02:10:22.000 We're good to go.

02:10:40.000 In partnership with the Raven Task Force, has assigned four detectives to a special task force that includes additional local, state, and federal partners to investigate the violent crime impacting our migrant community, said Aurora PD spokesperson late Thursday.

02:10:55.000 Yeah.

02:10:55.000 They had taken up an apartment complex.

02:10:58.000 The city is closing near Colfax and Peoria.

02:11:02.000 Interesting.

02:11:03.000 So they just basically take over an apartment complex and there's ain't nothing you can do about it.

02:11:09.000 Yeah.

02:11:10.000 Type of situation.

02:11:12.000 Yeah.

02:11:12.000 You can go through the courts all you want.

02:11:14.000 Well, especially if our laws are so lax.

02:11:16.000 Yeah.

02:11:17.000 Yeah.

02:11:18.000 That's not good.

02:11:19.000 No.

02:11:19.000 And if they're all flooding in through the border and these are the type of people that are flooding in, those guys aren't coming over legally, the Venezuelan gang members.

02:11:26.000 No.

02:11:26.000 Oh, no.

02:11:26.000 So that is an effect.

02:11:29.000 Basically, especially Venezuela.

02:11:32.000 That's been going on for a while, people trying to leave the country, and then they empty the jails, like Castro did.

02:11:40.000 Empty the jails and let them come out. 1.00

02:11:44.000 The gangs are.

02:11:45.000 They're a political force.

02:11:46.000 At some point, they become a political force.

02:11:48.000 Yeah.

02:11:49.000 Because how many that takes, but that's what they're doing.

02:11:54.000 Especially when you have warfare almost.

02:11:56.000 You have things like defunding the police and this lack of appreciation for law enforcement.

02:12:02.000 Yeah.

02:12:03.000 No cash bail.

02:12:04.000 It's just a slap on the wrist.

02:12:06.000 All of it is crazy. 0.59

02:12:07.000 You can beat up cops and it's okay. 0.99

02:12:09.000 You can beat up cops as an illegal immigrant on film. 1.00

02:12:12.000 Yeah. 0.82

02:12:13.000 Yeah.

02:12:13.000 And you just get let out of jail and the kid's given the Tupac double fingers to the...

02:12:17.000 Yeah.

02:12:18.000 Oh, man. 0.86

02:12:18.000 Crazy. 0.86

02:12:19.000 This is...

02:12:20.000 What is the endgame of this type of behavior and how is there no course correction?

02:12:24.000 That's what's scary to people and what should be scary to people.

02:12:27.000 Because this seems like if I wanted to throw the country into complete chaos, that's how I would do it.

02:12:34.000 Of course.

02:12:34.000 I'd have gangs come in through the border...

02:12:36.000 That's the way Stalin did it, you know?

02:12:38.000 They were involved in bankruptcy.

02:12:40.000 Stalin, in his earlier career, they robbed banks.

02:12:45.000 Wow.

02:12:46.000 That's what they did.

02:12:47.000 They were a gang and basically mayhem, but they robbed banks to finance the cause. 0.97

02:12:54.000 Crazy.

02:12:56.000 What a weird time.

02:12:57.000 Yeah.

02:12:58.000 Well, listen, Dennis, I appreciate you very much.

02:13:00.000 I've always loved your movies.

02:13:01.000 I really enjoy talking to you.

02:13:03.000 Yeah, really.

02:13:04.000 It's a lot of fun.

02:13:04.000 A couple of conspiracy theorists just getting together, talking it over.

02:13:09.000 A couple of loons.

02:13:09.000 Getting that adrenaline rush.

02:13:11.000 When does Reagan come out?

02:13:13.000 Reagan comes out August the 30th.

02:13:15.000 All right.

02:13:15.000 Well, I'll be watching.

02:13:17.000 Quite a few theaters, actually.

02:13:18.000 There it is.

02:13:18.000 And I'm very proud of it.

02:13:21.000 I love the movie, and number one, I hope people entertained it.

02:13:25.000 And also, if you were born before 1985, you can go to remember how great this country used to be.

02:13:34.000 And if you're after 1985, you can see it, and you can realize how great this country still could be.

02:13:42.000 All right.

02:13:42.000 Thank you very much, brother.

02:13:43.000 Appreciate you.

02:13:44.000 Thank you.

02:13:45.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - August 15, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2189 - Dennis Quaid

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