On this week's episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the guys discuss the latest events in the world of politics, including the recent shooting of a black man in Las Vegas, the Joe Biden press conference, and the President's Daily Brief. They also talk about how we need to be more civil with each other and turn the dial down the temperature, and how we can do better at it. Also, they talk about why we should all be angry at each other, and why it's a good thing that we're angry about things, because it makes us feel good about ourselves and our ability to be angry about other people's problems, and what it means to be a human being. They also discuss how important it is to have a sense of humor, and to not let our emotions get the best of us, and whether or not we should be mad about things that don't really matter to us. And, of course, there's a little bit of politics in there, too. . Enjoy, and tweet us what you thought of it! Timestamps: 3:00 - What's up? 4:30 - What do you think of the Biden press briefing? 5:00 6:15 - How do you feel about the Trump/Biden press conference? 8:00- What would you want to see more civil in politics? 9:20 - How should we turn the temperature back down? 10:30 11: What do we do to be civil? 15: What's the best way to get angry about something? 16:15 17:40 - What are you going to do about it? 18: How do we turn down the heat? 19:50 - Is Trump a threat to democracy? 21:00 | What's your point of view? 22:30 | Is Trump not a threat? 26:40 | Should we be civil anymore? 27:00 + 27:10 28: What are we getting angry about this? 29:40 32: How can we turn it back? 35: What s the point of the other side? 31: What is the problem? 36:00 // 35:10 | Is he a liar? 33: What should we be mad at Trump? 37:00 Do you have a better perspective on something that s better than that?
00:01:45.000But I was telling Emily, I was telling my wife the other day that I consider that a really good thing because like, oh my God, this is like two minutes into it and I've already mentioned the podcast, The President's Daily Brief.
00:01:56.000Look, I'm getting much better at this.
00:02:23.000Like, Andrew Huberman was talking about that today.
00:02:26.000The things that, when they study, like, what excites people, what people gravitate towards, It's 100% more potent to get angry about things.
00:02:39.000There must be some sort of chemical release in being outraged that makes people feel good.
00:02:44.000I think it's in our wiring, in our DNA, because we always had to look out for threats.
00:02:50.000So you find things that you perceive are threats or things that are going to be a problem, and you get angry about them, and you do it on social media instead of in the jungle.
00:03:02.000With the Trump thing, though, I was surprised at how, because it was about a day and a half, maybe, maybe it was 36 hours, of, oh, fuck, how could this happen?
00:03:14.000Look what we created, this environment.
00:03:15.000We have to be more civil with each other.
00:03:17.000And that was a big push from the Democrats, right?
00:03:19.000You remember Biden and Harris talking about We've got to be more civil.
00:03:24.000We've got to dial it back and turn down the temperature.
00:03:26.000And that lasted, for that side, that lasted almost no time at all.
00:03:45.000If Trump had just said, you know what, from a strategic point of view, maybe it's not me, maybe it's not what I want to do, but from a strategic point of view, if after that attempt had happened and he had just walked that civil line and said, you know, I've had a reflective moment, and if he had kept the high road,
00:04:02.000think about the disparity there, because the Democrats, first of all, they would have gone crazy because they wouldn't have known what to do, but they also wouldn't have been able to help themselves.
00:04:10.000So they would have turned into, you know, they would have thrown the hand grenades again, as usual.
00:04:15.000And then you would have had Trump over here being the reasonable one and being the reflective and civil one.
00:07:02.000I'm just saying, they're kind of conflating, just like he did with his rank or these other things, the idea that somehow he was Over there for 24 years.
00:07:26.000Isn't unusual, but it's very much, you know, highlighted now.
00:07:40.000But we have a due diligence group that does nothing but, right?
00:07:44.000Background investigations, due diligence.
00:07:46.000And so they spend a lot of time looking at people's CVs or resumes.
00:07:51.000It's a shocking number of people, and sometimes it's not really nefarious, it's just, okay, maybe I misspoke, or maybe I did put something in and I over-egged the pudding a little bit, but then like 10 or 15 years down the road, you've kind of ridden on that for all that time,
00:08:08.000and we've seen that happen where people suddenly get called out, right?
00:08:14.000You know, I don't read too much into the fact that he padded his resume.
00:08:18.000I think it is just very disrespectful that he didn't push back on the idea that he was overseas deployed in combat or that he claimed that he retired in a position.
00:08:29.000I mean, I think they gave him a Master Sergeant title or rank when he retired, which is just one step below.
00:09:40.000Well, he's also seen Joe Biden get away with it, right?
00:09:44.000Joe Biden has gotten away with lying about his record, lying about his accomplishments, from the beginning back when he was running for Senate.
00:09:53.000I'm sure you've seen that old video where he confronts the guy and tells him he's got a higher IQ than him and how he graduated at the top of his class.
00:11:31.000How long were you aware of President Biden's mental decline?
00:11:36.000Because right up until the last minute, you were talking about how sharp his attack he was, and how vigorous he was, and how he was better than men half his age.
00:11:49.000What I don't understand is how people aren't marching on Washington with pitchforks and torches over the fact that this small group, her and who else, Anita Dunn, the Chief of Staff over at the White House, Clayne, a variety of,
00:12:04.000that cabal's not that big, of people who had daily contact with President Biden.
00:12:11.000And they just lied to the American public for a significantly long time.
00:12:15.000They just deceived the American public.
00:12:17.000And nobody seems to give a shit, right?
00:12:20.000Well, it's also, why was anyone believing it?
00:12:25.000And we were getting shit on left and right during the campaign, where I was like, when I compared him, I said, Biden being president is like having a flashlight with a bad battery and going for a long walk in the woods.
00:12:41.000There's no fucking way it's not going to make it.
00:12:46.000And people were saying, no, don't you know he stutters?
00:12:49.000And they were saying, well, there's no evidence of him stuttering when he was younger.
00:13:34.000You were just, I mean, you were just kicked in the ass, right?
00:13:37.000And suddenly, somehow you were ageist, and you were, you know, hyper-partisan, and you were just, and you were MAGA. The epitome of gaslighting.
00:14:18.000So I think we have a right to expect more from that situation.
00:14:22.000But I don't think there's going to be none of those questions.
00:14:25.000Well, I think his last fuck you was saying that he wants Harris to take his place.
00:14:31.000That was his last fuck you, because from what I understand, they wanted to have a primary, and they wanted to pick their own person, and they didn't want to have Harris.
00:14:40.000Yeah, she was nobody's idea of the best, most competent, most qualified candidate.
00:14:45.000Up until they orchestrated this, whatever you want to call it, anointment or coronation or...
00:14:54.000So until that point, she wasn't the preferred, but now she's fucking Beyonce and Joan of Arc and...
00:15:00.000Well, she had that one speech where she really fucking nailed it.
00:15:03.000When she was talking about Trump, and this is after Trump even got shot, when she didn't even address the fact that we have to be more tolerant.
00:15:44.000I take it back because I'm sure it will be a series of hard-hitting questions, and they won't let her get away with anything, and it's all going to work out fine.
00:15:53.000Look, all she's got to do is beat the Biden debate bar, and people are going to say, yeah, she nailed it.
00:16:11.000Who is the woman, well, she has some sort of a connection to the Biden-Harris administration, the woman who is, find that out, Jamie, the woman who's moderating the ABC debate.
00:16:58.000Which by the way, I should say this, if you are having one of those days, there's a study that came out about creatine.
00:17:05.000Creatine, which most people think of as like a muscle supplement, which it is, but creatine actually helps performance when you're sleep deprived, significantly.
00:17:27.000I didn't know that about that, but I will definitely jump on it because I find myself...
00:17:32.000Like this month, August, I've been traveling like a son of a bitch, and I'm probably getting three and a half, four hours of sleep at night.
00:19:48.000I just don't think that, you know, people are that curious anymore.
00:19:51.000And certainly on the Democrat side, the one thing they're always very good at is just doing what they're told and following a message, sticking to the message and worrying about winning.
00:20:02.000Yeah, I saw Bill Maher and Quentin Tarantino talking about it, whether or not she should do interviews.
00:20:09.000And Quentin Tarantino's like, it's really important that we just win.
00:20:23.000Yeah, you'd like to think that people are really concerned about the quality of their leaders, but I think it is more about winning, again, at least on the Democrat side.
00:20:30.000Sometimes I question whether the Republicans understand that.
00:20:34.000I really do, because there were some people that posted a deceptive video, deceptively edited video, that made it look like Tim, you know, he has a son that has some disabilities, and it looked like he was yanking his son In a mean way,
00:20:52.000but he was really just trying to get his son to not hit his head on the teleprompter.
00:20:56.000So the teleprompter is this clear thing, the kids are walking towards it, and he just gives him a pull this way, like, let's go this way.
00:21:01.000And they just took that clip, like, oh, I bet he's mean.
00:21:13.000And it's becoming more and more difficult because, you know, Generative AI and and just a willingness to kind of disappear down a rabbit hole and believe whatever you you want to believe right nobody's questioning all this shit so but it is whether it's coming from Outside influence and you know,
00:21:30.000we know the Iranians are very active right now the obviously the Russians and Chinese are always interested in screwing us up so but Yeah, people if they don't do it themselves It's not as if this idea that the government is going to tell you what's good and what's not to read is amazing,
00:21:54.000I was going to ask you about that, too.
00:21:56.000So it seems like they wanted access to...
00:21:59.000To Telegram's messages because there were certain people that were posting things that had been a part of...
00:22:06.000There was a terrorist attack in Russia that they tried to get him to give up information about, but then they gave up on that and they left him alone.
00:22:15.000But now in France they've arrested him.
00:22:18.000Yeah, they picked him up three days ago, I think four days ago.
00:22:22.000And unfortunately, he's got this social media girlfriend who posts pictures everywhere she goes, so they can fucking find him everywhere.
00:22:29.000Telegram CEO released from custody in Paris.
00:23:08.000Yeah, and I think, well, look, honestly, I think there's some people in the States that if they thought they could get away with it, they would.
00:23:15.000That's what they would be pushing for.
00:23:17.000But with this, with Pavel Durov, I think they were really upset with a couple of things.
00:23:24.000One is that Telegram has a history of not cooperating with criminal investigations, right?
00:23:31.000Not releasing information or complying with requests from whomever it may be, right?
00:23:38.000And so they basically figured out a way to say, look, because of your inability or your failure to moderate the content on your platform, on Telegram, We're going to criminally charge you, perhaps.
00:23:51.000I suspect that's what they're going to do with this, but I think you're right.
00:23:54.000I think the outrage said, okay, well, let's let him go for now.
00:24:40.000So let me ask you this before we get off topic about the assassination.
00:24:45.000Is it normal for there to be an assassination attempt and then no press conference?
00:24:52.000It is Because we don't have assassination attempts every week, it's kind of hard to say that is it normal to do this.
00:24:59.000But if there's a major world of that, generally, don't they have press conferences?
00:25:04.000Yes, and it was, look, the whole thing, the protocols that weren't followed, the process, the fact that it was a cock-up of monumental proportions leading up to Thomas Crooks taking those shots,
00:26:55.000So they go out and the site survey, that whole process, the risk-threat assessment in the survey, is where you identify your timelines and your resources and your deployment of resources and all the various things, your command and control center,
00:27:12.000your communications protocols, all those things.
00:27:14.000But it's over and over and over again.
00:27:18.000And the Secret Service, you know, they do this all the time.
00:27:23.000So it does lead you to wonder how many more events in the past have they been, you know, not buttoned up and they just got lucky because there wasn't a shooter.
00:27:31.000But there's no way to excuse what happened because it was such a breakdown of events.
00:27:39.000And then afterwards, in the hot washing, in the briefings that they did provide, then going up on Capitol Hill and Kimberly Cheadle, the now departed director, It was a classic lesson in how not to do crisis communications and she should have been the director who's now gone she should have been out on the on the rally grounds that afternoon that evening sorry and with a team and with the agent in charge and it should have been
00:28:09.000very clear to the press all around that they were out there doing the investigation assessing what had happened And people would be responsible.
00:28:35.000If Biden got winged in the ear the same way, and they took him out, and the whole deal, and, you know, they shoot the guy, and there's an investigation, it would have been...
00:28:47.000On the news constantly, constantly, for weeks and weeks, it would have been lead story every night.
00:28:54.000More information in the assassination attempt on President Biden.
00:28:58.000Day 22. Yeah, it would have been the same thing.
00:29:00.000Right-wing, far-right activist, registered Republican, Thomas Crooks.
00:29:06.000Because apparently he was a registered Republican.
00:29:08.000Yeah, he had donated, I think, $15 to a Democratic or a progressive group, and he had registered as a Republican, and he was all over the map.
00:29:39.000They're starting to develop a narrative that says, you know, for the past couple of years, people were concerned about his mental health.
00:29:46.000There were a couple of people, I think, that had an acquaintance with him that were saying, well, we just assumed he was bipolar or depressive.
00:29:53.000He had researched depressive disorders.
00:29:56.000That was on some of his electronic gear.
00:30:00.000And so, yeah, I mean, that could be it.
00:30:03.000But again, the bottom line is the whole process, command and control, resource deployment, communications process, all of it just completely fucked up on that day.
00:30:14.000And usually when you have a problem of that magnitude...
00:30:17.000With security, it's never just one thing.
00:30:19.000It's a series of things that compound.
00:30:22.000And, you know, but then, you know, the acting director, Roe, you know, he goes up there and, you know, it was a few weeks back now, but when he first showed up to say, I'm the acting director and I'm going to go up to Capitol Hill and answer your questions, which he didn't really do, you know,
00:30:37.000they were talking about, well, it's almost impossible to get all the elements talking on the same frequency, right?
00:30:43.000The local police are talking on their frequency.
00:30:45.000Secret Service talking on their frequency, counter-sniper teams, maybe they're operating on a different channel.
00:30:54.000I'm just telling you for a fact that there are capabilities out there and available to allow you to get everybody talking on the same sheet of music at an event like that.
00:32:11.000And I think the transparency that we have on this right now is pretty much thanks to the local law enforcement.
00:32:20.000I mean, that's where we've gotten most of our information, right?
00:32:22.000They've shared body cam images, they've shared radio conversations, and I think, in part, they're doing it because they're so pissed off, right?
00:32:29.000Yeah, well, their conversations were about how they saw this guy in advance, and they alerted people.
00:32:33.000He was walking around with a fucking rangefinder.
00:33:11.000And particularly something like this, the idea that the acting director kept saying about, well, we're not going to get out ahead of the investigation.
00:33:22.000And the fact that they fail to understand the optic of this right in the immediate aftermath and say, man, we've got to be so fucking proactive here.
00:33:30.000We've got to be more transparent than we've ever been before.
00:33:54.000But I do have to say this, and I say this as a credit to CNN. It seems like they have made a concerted effort to be more balanced.
00:34:03.000And I think this is in the aftermath of firing Don Lemon and Brian Stelter and all those people over there that people were frustrated with.
00:34:13.000I think they have made a concerted effort.
00:34:15.000There was a gentleman who was talking about that everyone's blaming Trump for things, but that the Democrats have been in control of the White House for 12 of the last 16 years.
00:34:27.000And when he said that, it was like, whoa.
00:34:58.000Another part of the whole equation that I'm sure they won't get asked tomorrow night.
00:35:03.000When you talk about fixing the problems and making America, what have you been doing?
00:35:08.000Maybe they will, and maybe they've already prepared for that.
00:35:11.000Maybe they have some sort of fucking spinny spin they're going to put on that to make it seem like it makes sense.
00:35:17.000Somebody, as I guarantee you, put everybody on the polygraph over there and see, like, somebody could just be a researcher or a producer or whatever.
00:35:27.000They're talking because you know the DNC and the campaign team have been, ever since they agreed, okay, let's do this interview, somebody's been beating on somebody to say, okay, well, where are you going to go with this?
00:36:11.000Advocates for the Democratic Party, and that's where it gets weird, because you're supposed to be the news.
00:36:15.000Yeah, well, I think what happened, a couple of things is, with CNN moving possibly this idea that they're moving a little bit towards the center, and I will say, you see more negative comments from the left, right, about CNN. I think they're pissed off sometimes with CNN because they're not as hardcore.
00:36:33.000Because they're trying to move a little bit more.
00:36:35.000I think that's a revenue issue for them, because I don't think they've made money since they've been around.
00:36:40.000But I think they're realizing that maybe there's more profit margin a little bit further towards the center than where they've been sitting.
00:36:49.000Well, if they could convince people that they will actually be objective, people like me will listen.
00:38:29.000Why wouldn't you want to be in a comfortable spot?
00:38:31.000I think it's very bizarre that she's doing a joint interview with Walt.
00:38:36.000If you want to show that you're ready for the job and you could possibly be the first woman president of the United States, and then you say, okay, my first big interview, I'm going to sit here with this dude.
00:38:50.000Could you imagine if Trump did all his interviews with Pence?
00:39:56.000So there's all these donations that at least Project Veritas is claiming, and these people are claiming, we're not theirs, and that they're throwing money into this pot, and they're attributing it to all these people that probably don't even know it's being attributed to them.
00:40:11.000I think that's what they're alluding to.
00:40:12.000If the cost of this campaign is going to be north of a billion, you have to assume.
00:40:20.000And you think about, yeah, if there was a way to take money out of it, if there was a way to enact term limits, and there was a way to have a meaningful third and fourth party completely change the landscape here, I would think.
00:40:42.000Who's gonna vote against their own best interests, right?
00:40:44.000You look at the money that these politicians can make, and they can walk out the door, multi-millionaires, On salaries, that doesn't make any sense.
00:40:53.000That's the other thing you need to get out of there is insider trading.
00:42:15.000And so they're all kind of getting to that point, and they're just like, I'll walk into the elevator yesterday with Sammy, and we get in there, and the door's closed, and he just goes, whales on me.
00:48:03.000If you're doing those kind of things, and you're working off a script, and you don't have a script, and you're just out there talking to people, you're gonna misspeak.
00:48:29.000But, look, and that's why, again, Everything that we've seen leading up to tomorrow night's interview needs to be factored into this, right?
00:48:42.000I understand why the Democrats are so wrapped around the axle because they're so worried that Trump might win for whatever reason, right?
00:51:26.000And you'll have the people who, okay, sure, you've got to program this shit and you've got to, you know, curate all the stuff that it's picking up.
00:51:32.000But now it's collecting just AI-generated shit, right?
00:51:36.000It's not like it's going out there and getting the world's greatest human literature, right, anymore.
00:51:40.000Now it's just scooping up all this shit that AI produced.
00:51:47.000And, you know, the ease with which they can now put together an essay or a college application or whatever the fuck it is, I think we're just raising, you know, maybe we're just raising the next generation of morons.
00:51:59.000Well, definitely the next generation of people that are completely dependent upon technology.
00:52:03.000I mean, kids can't even write cursive anymore.
00:53:05.000We're going to be definitely dependent.
00:53:07.000My kids have had kids in their class get busted for papers that they wrote on AI because they're so dumb they don't realize like someone could just put the same prompt into AI and get the exact same verbiage.
00:53:19.000And they do have, I mean, professors and teachers have, you know, the ability to use certain apps that will scan and see whether these things have been pulled together by AI. But I think it's like a lot of other things.
00:53:49.000Yeah, I do think, and then going back to what we were talking about, the level of disinformation coming into November is going to be shocking, I think, for some people, even if they haven't been paying attention.
00:53:59.000But a lot of people don't because a lot of people don't have the time.
00:54:05.000Yeah, I think when we get there, when we wake up and the election results are announced, you know, three weeks later.
00:54:13.000Well, Pennsylvania's already saying they're not going to be able to do it on election night.
00:54:59.000It's there for a reason, because people are full of shit.
00:55:02.000There's a lot of fraudsters out there.
00:55:03.000And if there's a way to mitigate fraud, and the most important thing that we do, which is choose a leader, it's one of the most important things we do.
00:55:58.000So they found a bunch of people, I think a half a million that were registered to vote that were dead.
00:56:03.000And then there's a bunch of other people that were registered that were ineligible.
00:56:07.000And so the way they're framing it in Texas, the way I saw it framed in one newspaper that Ken Paxton is going after Latinos because he doesn't want them to vote.
00:56:16.0001.1 million ineligible voters removed from Texas voter rolls.
00:56:34.000And so the top Texas Republicans have dedicated significant time and resources to targeting voter fraud, though cases in Texas are exceedingly rare.
00:56:56.000Well, look, Georgia was decided by, what, 12,000, 1,200 votes?
00:57:00.000It was some ridiculously small number, right?
00:57:02.000And that's the way this is going to be in November.
00:57:04.000The only people that matter going into November, frankly, are the undecideds.
00:57:10.000When you look at the accusations of voter fraud in 2020, does any of it stick?
00:57:14.000Does any of it – will you look at it and go, that is weird?
00:57:17.000I would say that in our current system – I don't have any evidence of actual – I can't point to actual moments and say, yeah, look at that.
00:57:44.000So, in terms of our system, I interrupt you to tell you how awesome you are, but the system that we have, is there any evidence that you can point to that says, this doesn't look right?
00:57:59.000Well, what I was going to say was that, while I don't have evidence to a particular moment in time, As someone who's done a lot of fraud investigations, you look for the opportunity to commit fraud, right?
00:58:13.000And it's like what you were just saying a moment ago, right?
00:58:15.000If you can button it up and make it more secure, why wouldn't you, right?
00:58:20.000And so we've created an environment where there's definitely potential for fraud There's no doubt about it.
00:58:27.000More so than if you had voter ID, or just you had to provide ID to show citizenship, and if you did it in person, and if you got the results, and you didn't have massive early voting, and you didn't have drop boxes and ballot harvesting,
00:59:14.000Voter fraud has been a real problem from the beginning of voting because people are creepy and people like to game the system and they like to cheat and they like to steal and they like to do things where their side wins and if they can figure out...
00:59:29.000Look, just think about the way they talk about Trump, the existential threat to democracy, kleptocrat, all these crazy terms that they use.
00:59:36.000They can call him Hitler And then everything you do to keep Hitler from being in power is a good thing, including fraud.
00:59:45.000Yeah, you're justified because you're saving democracy.
00:59:48.000Yeah, that's where it gets scary because then, guess what, fuckface?
00:59:51.000You set a precedent and now if the Republicans get in power and they do the same thing and use the same playbook, then they're stealing it.
00:59:59.000And you can't fucking do that if you care about America.
01:00:03.000If you really are a patriot, you can't do that.
01:00:06.000We had a moment in time with the pandemic where, obviously, you had to make some adjustments to the way that people could vote, right?
01:00:14.000To accommodate the fact that you had...
01:00:51.000Well, it was primarily an issue with the gay community in the beginning.
01:00:56.000So in the beginning, when they tried to call it a national health emergency, they tried to do this a couple of years ago.
01:01:02.000In the middle of COVID, when people were starting to be a little bit more active and less worried about COVID, they tried to push this monkeypox thing.
01:01:09.000But there's only four people died from it.
01:01:16.000Yeah, and they did say that the most recent, which was just, you know, within the past couple of weeks, I believe, alert or crisis alert for the entire continent of Africa was because it was more virulent.
01:01:38.000Yeah, and so because it was going to be more aggressive or because it was proving to be more aggressive than they call it, but I forgot that they changed the name to MPOX. Did they drop the national or world health emergency?
01:02:42.000And so then you have to ask yourself, being a reasonable person, well, why?
01:02:47.000Would people just love the new process so much that they thought, oh my god, we have to keep this?
01:02:52.000Or was there some benefit to it that they saw?
01:02:56.000Anyway, again, I would be speculating if I pointed to a particular state or incident and say that was, you know, an obvious case of voter fraud.
01:03:06.000But I do know for a fact that when you expand the playing field for fraud, someone's going to fill that gap.
01:03:13.000They're going to come in and take advantage of it.
01:03:15.000And like you said, you know, people want to win.
01:03:19.000I'm just scared because of the rhetoric.
01:03:21.000And I'm not just scared because I want one side to win.
01:03:25.000I'm scared because I think that by overzealously wanting their side to win and doing it so in a way that really isn't fair, that you set up a precedent where anybody can do that in the future.
01:03:40.000And they think they're justified in doing that.
01:03:43.000There's a lot of people that think 2020 was stolen, and Trump has said it over and over again.
01:03:47.000But by the way, Hillary said it in 2016, over and over again.
01:04:30.000You know, not being a lawyer, but I would think that you had conflicting things because you would also have someone in government, you know, almost bragging about the fact that, you know, look, we're getting this disinformation taken down during the pandemic.
01:04:49.000And so, yeah, Zuckerberg coming out and making this statement, I agree with you, it is huge.
01:04:56.000It's sort of Zuckerberg going, eh, what are you going to do?
01:06:06.000Because there wouldn't be a platform like that where anybody can freely talk about anything and not worry about being Your account getting taken down and getting in trouble with the government.
01:06:49.000I was going to say, it's neck and neck, or Trump may have a two-point or three-point lead in a place like Georgia, but for the most part, she's pulled even and is slightly ahead.
01:07:07.000There were a lot of people arguing about how accurate any polling is anymore.
01:07:11.000Well, look, in 2016, it wasn't accurate at all, right?
01:07:14.000Because Hillary Clinton was like 84% to win.
01:07:16.000Well, somebody knocks on your door, they call you up and say, are you going to vote for Trump?
01:07:19.000You know, there's a lot of people out there that, you know, may decide, okay, I'm going to vote for Trump, but I'm not going to tell you I'm going to vote for Trump.
01:07:41.000I'm scared that whichever side loses, they might erupt.
01:07:46.000They just got to keep their shit together.
01:07:48.000But I think even above and beyond, if people can do that and keep their shit together and not get into a violent situation, we're still going to be dealing then with four years of Of just dysfunctional bullshit, right?
01:09:47.000I don't know that it would have opened the door for a victory.
01:09:51.000Look, I like RFK Jr. because I think that he believes what he believes, and that's hard to find anymore.
01:09:58.000I always said this about Bernie Sanders, which is crazy, but I at least appreciate the fact that Bernie Sanders is consistent in his socialist beliefs.
01:12:11.000And also, when Michelle Obama was saying, you know, I think she was saying her mother or grandmother was always suspicious of people who took more than they needed.
01:12:29.000Look at, you know, I haven't seen the latest figures, but I'd love to know the current personal wealth of AOC. You know, the bartender who turned congresswoman.
01:14:50.000But it should happen inside, right, from within.
01:14:53.000And you'd like to think that one day, and I'm sure that every administration in the U.S. for decades now has been imagining that it would happen, that it'd be a popular uprising that would actually change the regime.
01:15:05.000And then you might actually get something that could resemble long-term peace.
01:15:11.000But right now, all this crap that's happening related to Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, Islamic Jihad, militias in Iraq and Syria, it's all down to Iran.
01:15:26.000And just over the past four days, this past weekend, Hezbollah and Israel had the largest exchange of fire that they've had in ages.
01:15:41.000And you have to go back to actual war between the two.
01:15:47.000And I will say, this is the amazing thing.
01:15:49.000And this is why I think people always say, well, how come Iran hasn't retaliated for the death of Ishmael Hanyeh when they took him out in Tehran?
01:15:58.000Part of me thinks that the reason they haven't is because that operation to take out Chania in Tehran, he was in a safe house on an IRGC compound in Tehran, right?
01:16:09.000So you would imagine that's a pretty secure place, right?
01:16:13.000It's pretty buttoned up and it's a safe house that Chania had been to in the past on a handful of occasions.
01:16:19.000So The idea that Mossad and other elements of Israeli intelligence could develop assets in Tehran within the IRGC that allowed them to carry out that operation,
01:16:37.000if they did, I'm not saying they did, but if they did, It's remarkable and it shows the depth of their abilities in terms of identifying targets for possible recruitment and then working those targets and then recruiting them and then tasking them.
01:16:53.000You had to get inside a safe house in an IRGC-guarded compound in Tehran.
01:16:59.000They had to have assets who were willing to walk in there with explosive devices, because there's more than one, and put them in there.
01:17:06.000Those folks, you know, got off the X. They got out of country, you know, you would think.
01:17:15.000They still had to have an asset who could say, you know, go or no go, because Kanye is now is back in the safe house at, you know, midnight or 1 a.m.
01:17:42.000The Iranian leadership and the IRGC, they don't know what the depth of that penetration is by Mossad and others.
01:17:48.000And so the idea that, you know, this is happening, and I guess the point there is, Then you look at what they did to the Hezbollah commander, Fuad Shukr, in Beirut.
01:18:01.000Getting him to move, he was in a building, a multi-story building, and they wanted him to move up to his residence, which was on the top floor.
01:18:08.000And he was in his office, which was, I think, the second floor of that building.
01:18:12.000And they were able to orchestrate a call To get him to go up to the top deck so he could be an easier target and they could minimize casualties and took him out.
01:18:34.000You have to recruit people who are in a position to be able to do that, who have access, who can tell you things, who can identify something as simple as, you know, his routine.
01:18:43.000You know, he typically goes upstairs to the top deck at 7 o'clock or whatever.
01:18:48.000Or you have to have someone who's willing and has got access to make that call to get him to go upstairs.
01:18:54.000And how'd they get him when he went upstairs?
01:19:04.000But then, this massive barrage that took place over the weekend between Hezbollah and Israel.
01:19:13.000Amazingly, the leader of Hezbollah, a fellow named Nasrallah, he has said, in the wake of that, he's talked about their attack, and he said that the timing of it was a quarter after 5 in the morning.
01:19:30.0005.15 in the morning, we're going to launch this barrage.
01:19:33.000At 4.55 in the morning, Israel sends about 100 jets Over the border to attack launch sites, right?
01:19:41.000So once again, they had this intelligence, this advanced knowledge, right?
01:19:45.000So I think that and a variety of other hits that they've been able to accomplish, Muhammad Deef and some of these other characters.
01:19:55.000I think that the Iranian regime and the RGC, they're just, right now, there's a level of paranoia.
01:20:39.000Anyway, so that's one thing that I'm thinking, because people are always asking, how come Iran hasn't retaliated for the Hanye hit yet?
01:20:47.000And part of it is also, I think they're worried about legitimately getting into a direct conflict with Israel.
01:20:53.000They understand that the U.S., regardless of where the Biden administration may be and how less they would like not to be in that conflict, they're going to have to be in the conflict.
01:21:28.000They've just moved in overnight, basically.
01:21:31.000And they're going after terrorist elements up there.
01:21:35.000But Iran has been shoving weapons into the West Bank, you know, because what they want to do is, if you think about where Israel is, you think about Gaza's on the west side, Hezbollah's up north, West Bank's over on the east.
01:21:47.000They want to create more of a front on the east side, right?
01:21:50.000And they basically got them You know, engulfed, right?
01:21:54.000And so they want to, they've been funneling weapons and resources into the West Bank for, well, for several years.
01:22:01.000They've got smuggling routes going through Lebanon, going through Syria, going through Jordan.
01:22:07.000So I guess my point being, all this shit is down to the Iranian regime and the IRGC. So when people talk about, we've got to get a ceasefire, we've got to work for a lasting peace.
01:22:17.000Unless you get rid of those guys, there's no lasting peace.
01:22:19.000Now, what happened during when Biden was in office, I guess he's kind of still in office, where they released somewhere in the neighborhood of $6 billion to Iran that they had tied up?
01:22:45.000And it can be used for humanitarian purposes only.
01:22:48.000And we're doing that in part because, look, they've had a policy of appeasement towards Iran for the entire Biden administration.
01:22:56.000And, you know, they've been desperate and they've been very open about wanting to get back into the, you know, the 2015 nuclear agreement that was created under the Obama administration.
01:23:11.000But the idea is, look, they essentially gave $6 billion, they advised the Iranian regime that you now have $6 billion available to you for humanitarian purposes, which, you know, it's all fungible, so it frees up other money, right,
01:23:26.000that they can now use to Help to resource the Houthis or help to resource Hezbollah or Hamas.
01:23:33.000They don't make a secret of it, right?
01:23:35.000It's like Putin talking about how he wants to recreate the old Soviet Union in some fashion.
01:23:40.000The Iranian regime has stated over and over again they want the destruction of Israel.
01:23:44.000And that's why they built up all these terrorist elements.
01:23:47.000They've got the same objective because their puppet master is Iran.
01:23:50.000I don't want to oversimplify this, but it's not that hard to oversimplify because it's just the way it is.
01:23:58.000Iran is at the top of this thing and they're causing all of this instability because ultimately they want to see Israel removed from the map.
01:24:08.000Which sounds to me like genocide, but, you know, it's Israel that's constantly accused of genocide.
01:25:06.000And we kind of agreed with the French and Italians to go in there and get rid of Gaddafi, even though he was, you know, for a while, he was helping us out in counterterrorism.
01:25:15.000I don't want to make more than that that it is, but, you know, he was there and he would provide some assistance related to counterterrorism.
01:25:24.000Suddenly it would say, oh, sure, we'll help the French and Italians.
01:25:26.000They were the only ones with any national interests in Libya to speak of.
01:26:29.000It really got highlighted for two very specific reasons.
01:26:32.000One, the Hillary Clinton moment where she was being interviewed and she got a phone call or a text message saying that there is apparently an un...
01:26:42.000It wasn't completely confirmed, an unconfirmed report that Gaddafi had been captured.
01:27:13.000So then everybody's like, well, what the fuck happened in Libya?
01:27:16.000And then there was the video of Qaddafi actually being captured by the rebels where they stick that bayonet up his ass, and they're like, yo.
01:28:36.000That's where I'd go if, like, when there was Ukraine footage, a lot of crazy shit that you could see, you'd get it on Telegram, because they wouldn't censor it.
01:28:45.000And I don't exactly know how Telegram works, because I don't use it that much, but I guess you could start a channel, and then anybody can kind of go to your channel, and you could post things.
01:29:59.000The chaos, the fact that they didn't know that the Sunnis and the Shias were going to fight is nuts.
01:30:06.000How do you not understand there's two competing factors of Islam that are there?
01:30:11.000Or the idea that we would think, okay, well, I guess the Taliban is going to keep their promise and they're going to worry about women's rights.
01:31:37.000Well, again, going back to at the beginning and what kind of interview we're going to be looking at for tomorrow evening with Harrison Walls.
01:31:45.000You'd like to think that they say, look, you've been here now for a while, and you've been around, and you've kind of seen a lot.
01:31:54.000Would you like to talk about the Afghan withdrawal, maybe?
01:31:57.000Just talk about what's your policy towards the Middle East?
01:32:01.000Ask some serious, legitimate questions, but who knows?
01:33:40.000But then you have to assume that the vast majority of people, to your point, don't, right?
01:33:44.000They take a couple of headlines, they take a couple of things, and they go, fine, I've made my choice.
01:33:49.000I can't be bothered to think about it anymore because it's fucking boring, or I've got too much else to do, I've got to put food on the table.
01:35:41.000And just in a short period of time, if all you do is look at what she's saying in a limited fashion, because she hasn't said much, about her positions on things, compared to what she did say, again, same thing.
01:35:56.000Leading into this interview, you would think that's a lot of fodder for the person that's handling the interview, Dana Bash or whoever.
01:37:07.000Luckily, there was nobody on my left-hand side, but I swerved so I wouldn't hit him head-on, you know, engine block to engine block.
01:37:13.000So he caught the right driver's side front panel, and because I was swerving, it just took the whole side of that truck, because he was still going.
01:38:50.000And now her staff is saying, oh, no, she never did that.
01:38:54.000They just, they don't see anything wrong with telling people Here's the truth.
01:39:02.000Don't pay attention to anything that we did before.
01:39:05.000Don't pay attention to the fact that she's been vice president for all this time.
01:39:08.000She has nothing to do with the Biden administration decisions, even though she was there, even though President Biden said, oh, usually she's the last person in the room when we talk about these important things.
01:39:17.000And now they just want everybody to buy this bullshit, right?
01:39:20.000Because she's younger and she's a woman and there's a good vibe.
01:39:24.000I wish that he would go and do a tell-all.
01:40:44.000How would they have come up with any other decision?
01:40:48.000Because if you think about, what's his name, Shapiro in Pennsylvania, or Wes Moore, or these other candidates, even Gavin Newsom, although he doesn't have a hope in hell, Pete Buttigieg, who I think always fancies himself to be president.
01:43:38.000That's the name of his specials, Beautiful Dogs.
01:43:40.000I know this sounds wrong, because what I really want is I want the Republican policies, again, for national security and other purposes, to be in place and to actually focus on important things down the road.
01:45:41.000The Russians have had, Putin initially kind of dismissed it a little bit.
01:45:44.000You know, he was sort of like, ah, it's just a one-time thing.
01:45:47.000Then they hung in there, and then they've established supply lines, and now there's 200,000 plus residents in that region, the Kursk region, that have been displaced.
01:46:15.000And they've been, you know, they've been using U.S. and NATO munitions So remember there was a first two years, the Biden White House was like, nope, you can't use U.S. munitions for striking targets inside of Russia.
01:46:29.000And then recently, it was, okay, just along the border.
01:46:33.000And now, you know, fuck it, they're well into the Kursk region.
01:46:38.000And, you know, so it's very fascinating.
01:46:48.000You've got Belarus has put a third of their military on the border that they have with Ukraine.
01:46:55.000And Belarus is run by a guy named Lukashenko, who's basically a Putin puppet.
01:47:01.000So, you have to wonder, are they going to try to, you know, stretch Ukraine resources thin?
01:47:06.000How long can they hold territory inside Russia?
01:47:09.000I mean, I would argue that basically this is a ploy, and it seems like that's the way it's playing out with some comments from Zelensky over the past couple of days, that it's a move to try to strengthen their hand, you know, force Putin to the table to come up with some type of negotiated settlement, right?
01:47:25.000And Zelensky came out and said, look, I've got a proposal that I'm going to present to Biden or whomever's in charge at the UN General Assembly Week in September, I think it is, in New York.
01:47:38.000And he's being more open about now in the past day or so of talking about how this move into Russia is all about creating a better negotiating situation for them.
01:49:01.000They've had some successes in the eastern side of Ukraine, where they've been, you know, making an offensive against the Ukrainian military.
01:49:10.000So while the Ukrainian military has been advancing and having some success taking and holding some territory inside Russia, at the same time, they've been having some real difficulties in the Donetsk region and on the eastern side of Ukraine.
01:49:26.000And, but if Putin feels sufficient pain, then yeah, he'll, they'll find a settlement.
01:49:32.000I think that settlement is going to look frustratingly like what the lines looked like before this whole conflict started.
01:49:42.000They're not going to give up, Russia's not going to give up Crimea.
01:49:45.000They're not going to pull all their military, all their personnel out of the eastern side of Ukraine.
01:49:54.000And so I think at the end of the day, and this will probably frustrate a lot of people who've been putting Ukrainian flags on their Twitter handles and waving flags and saying, we stand with Ukraine.
01:50:08.000It's not going to look like Ukraine gets all its territory back.
01:50:58.000Other people think that's a horrible thing.
01:51:00.000And so I don't know, I'm just saying operationally, you know, if you look at it, you go, okay, our decision is we can't afford to lose Ukraine to Putin.
01:51:08.000So therefore, we're going to dump a lot of resource and assistance in there.
01:51:12.000You know, so, you know, Bob's your uncle.
01:51:16.000I personally don't think, you know, Putin's the sort of person who stops when he gets something, right?
01:51:26.000Just like the Iranians are clear about wanting to destroy Israel, Putin's been talking for years about trying to rebuild the Soviet Union in some fashion, right?
01:51:58.000You know what I love, though, is I do love Democrats now.
01:52:00.000I've heard some Democrats say, well, but actually, look, this is a good thing, and these are Democrats saying, this is a good thing, because...
01:52:22.000Well, that's a new tact to take for the Democrats, is to argue on behalf of the military-industrial complex.
01:52:29.000It's such a strange way of rationalizing things when the left has always been anti-war.
01:52:34.000I mean, that's where things got real weird.
01:52:36.000The left has always been pro-free speech and anti-war.
01:52:39.000And they're essentially the party that's trying to silence people under the guise of misinformation and disinformation, which a lot of that shit turned out to not be misinformation and not be disinformation.
01:52:51.000Especially the COVID stuff with Jay Bhattacharya and Martin Koldoff, all these different people that got Removed from Twitter and censored, Alex Berenson, who's in a lawsuit right now with the Biden administration.
01:53:04.000You know, all those people, without Elon Musk buying Twitter, they would essentially have been silenced.
01:53:09.000So all these dissenting opinions were legitimate people from Stanford and Harvard, and all these people were labeled as kooks.
01:53:17.000Which is just goddamn crazy and very fucking dangerous.
01:53:31.000I think people hate having this pointed out.
01:53:35.000I mean, people of a certain persuasion.
01:53:37.000When you say things like, you know what, a lot of the things that people on the opposite side, from where the progressives and the left sit, They turn out to be right, right?
01:53:47.000Whether it's Hunter Biden's laptop, whether it's the bullshit of the Russian dossier, whether it's issues related to COVID, right?
01:53:54.000And the idea that people aren't able to speak their mind, right?
01:53:59.000And that somehow the Democrats have decided that they're okay with censorship, because really, the government needs to tell you what's safe to hear.
01:54:09.000It's like the Democrats supporting the war and the Republicans questioning whether it's a good idea.
01:54:22.000It's just strange to see how people just immediately abandon all their principles and side with whatever their party's saying.
01:54:28.000That's when you realize that it really is just a tribal thing.
01:54:32.000Because the left silencing free speech and the left not recognizing that they were lied to by these corporations because they had originally sided with them and they had made these statements and they don't want to walk these statements back and it's too difficult to say that you were wrong.
01:54:47.000And then the pro-war stuff, it's just the whole thing is...
01:56:26.000It's like years of jiu-jitsu, too, and weightlifting, but your discs get smaller.
01:56:30.000They get smushed-er, and your spinal column gets closer and closer together.
01:56:35.000And, like, there was a race car driver, and...
01:56:39.000He was one of the guys who did Le Mans back in the day, and they got him in his original race car to take a lap around Le Mans, and he couldn't fit the pedals anymore because he had shrunk four inches since the time that he had...
01:57:05.000But the point is, we have a massive health crisis in this country.
01:57:09.000The obesity crisis is really legitimate.
01:57:12.000And it's terrifying that it's so prevalent and that no one's doing anything about it.
01:57:17.000And this is one of the things that RFK wants to do when he gets into office.
01:57:21.000He's talking about seed oils and he's talking about a lot of different things that are like terrible for health that are ubiquitous in our diet and to put some regulations on that stuff and to recognize that these are real issues and to inform people that these are real issues and not just let these big food companies just keep I saw a fucking article today in Time magazine Wait a minute,
01:59:18.000It all started in the summer of 2023 when author and infectious disease physician, Dr. Chris Von Tuleken, was promoting his book, Ultra Processed People.
01:59:27.000While writing it, Von Tuleken spent a month eating mostly foods like chip soda, bagged bread, frozen food, and cereal.
01:59:34.000What happened to me is exactly what the research says would happen to everyone.
01:59:37.000Von Tuleken says he felt worse, he gained weight, his hormone levels went crazy, and before and after MRI scans showed signs of changes in his brain.
01:59:46.000As Von Tuleken saw it, the experiment highlighted the terrible emergency of society's love affair with ultra-processed foods.
01:59:54.000Okay, but this next part is also really Wilson.
01:59:57.000Who specialized in working with clients from marginalized groups, oh, marginalized groups, was irked.
02:00:03.000She felt that Von Tuleken's experiment was Over-sensationalized.
02:00:08.000That news coverage of it shamed people who regularly eat processed food.
02:00:14.000That kind of fucking language drives me goddamn crazy.
02:00:17.000In other words, the vast majority of Americans, particularly the millions who are food insecure or have limited access to fresh food, they also tend to be lower income and people of color.
02:00:30.000Yeah, they fucking covered the whole spectrum.
02:00:32.000Wilson felt the buzz ignored this food apartheid.
02:00:37.000As well as the massive diversity of foods that can be considered ultra-processed, a category that includes everything from vegan meat replacements, which by the way, are really fucking bad for you, and non-dairy milks, which by the way, are really fucking bad for you.
02:00:52.000To potato chips and candy, which, by the way, are really fucking bad for you.
02:00:57.000How can this entire category of foods be something we're supposed to avoid?
02:05:04.000They pass on billions of dollars of profit.
02:05:06.000One-seventh of a potential revenue stream for the week, and they just throw it to the curb.
02:05:10.000And one of the most successful fast food chains in the country.
02:05:13.000And they're like, nope, we like Jesus more than we like money.
02:05:16.000And the gays are saying, we're not really into the gays.
02:05:19.000We like Chick-fil-A more than we care about.
02:05:21.000I went into a Chick-fil-A the other day, and the fella that was serving me, I have a feeling that fella might have been a part of the Alphabet Posse.
02:06:02.000I was about to start talking about words you can't say.
02:06:06.000I got in trouble with my kids because I was driving down the road and I said something and the oldest boy was like, Dad, I don't think we can say that anymore.
02:08:48.000So instead of talking and saying, look, we know that you have, you know, that it costs more or whatever, but here's the honest to God's truth about it.
02:08:55.000These foods are, it's a slow walk to death, right?
02:09:25.000But anyway, so she talks about these price controls on food as if somehow that magically is going to sort problems out.
02:09:34.000It will just make this whole issue of access to food worse.
02:09:38.000It just fucks things up in terms of the supply chain.
02:09:42.000And so that's why, I mean, she's not doing it, but her team is already walking this back, an idea that she had just thrown out at the DNC. We're going to do this.
02:09:51.000The other bullshit, all these other ideas, but $25,000 for first-time homebuyers.
02:12:44.000I guess I get cynical because I don't see how it changes.
02:12:48.000I look around and I think, well, how does it get any better, I guess is the question, right?
02:12:54.000And it's certainly not going to get better in the next...
02:12:58.000Short-term cycle right and I maybe Maybe if well, I don't know I don't know how you I don't know how you get people out of the trenches right now It's like World War one and you get them to kind of stand up and at least make a little bit of move towards each other and Say okay,
02:13:14.000we gotta we gotta figure this shit out.
02:13:16.000We got a lot of serious problems There's more crises overseas right now that we had in a very long time shit that could really really Get fucked up pretty quick, right?
02:13:26.000Whether it's what's going on in Russia and, you know, something happens, the next thing you know, Putin decides, ah, fuck it, you guys are lobbing U.S. missiles deeper into Russia.
02:13:36.000I think it's time for us to, you know, deploy something.
02:13:59.000The chance for that to go sideways, you know, right now, right?
02:14:03.000I mean, if they're successful in, you know, encircling Israel, by meaning that, you know, they dump enough weapons into the West Bank and they get some of their militant elements there to take, suddenly you got a three-front war with Israel?
02:14:18.000At some point, there's going to be some really undue pressure on any US administration to step in.
02:14:26.000We got thousands of people crossing the border who probably have really bad nefarious intent that we don't even know who they are.
02:14:33.000Millions, but I'm just saying, in terms of actual people who may be on the terror watch list, you got a lot of people who have come across.
02:14:39.000The vetting that goes on on the southern border is minimal at best.
02:14:43.000They don't have access to international databases.
02:14:45.000It's not like they're getting people crossing in from China or crossing in from, you know, Turkey or Pakistan or, you know, I'm not picking on any particular country, but pick a spot and work with those home country liaison personnel to say, what do you got on these people, right?
02:15:01.000They simply are checking to see whether they're listed in the U.S. criminal database.
02:15:05.000And if they're not, it's like, fine, here's your appointment.
02:15:08.000You know, we'll see you in court in a year and a half or whatever.
02:16:42.000But I mean, I've never been on a Zoom call where I felt like that was...
02:16:45.000That ever, you know, you're not like...
02:16:47.000Well, it makes you wonder, like, how...
02:16:49.000What kind of control do you have over your life if you have to whack off so bad that you do it in the middle of the day while you're on a call?
02:17:39.000And, you know, so while common sense would make you think, well, I'm sure actually they'll be, you know, they'll be fact-checking themselves, and they'll be thinking about these things, and they'll be more reflective and more analytical.
02:18:07.000What I'm scared is that people become accustomed to the fact that the president's not in control of the government anymore and that that's okay.
02:18:14.000That's a scary thing, too, because whether you like Biden or don't like Biden, like Trump or don't like Trump, at least you attributed the commander-in-chief.
02:18:44.000And again, you know, I guarantee there won't be that question tomorrow night with one of the two potential successors to be the leader of the free world, supposedly.
02:19:15.000And if that's the case, what's the decision-making process like at the White House?
02:19:19.000And what kind of role are you playing in it?
02:19:22.000And by the way, can we ask one more time, when did you know that he was in decline, and were you just telling the American public the complete opposite?
02:21:05.000Yeah, the whole Commission for Presidential Debate shifted, which is, by the way, a privately funded thing, which is crazy, too.
02:21:11.000I think there's also this upcoming debate.
02:21:15.000Look, one of the things that Trump should be very thankful for is the rules that they established for that first debate with Biden, the only debate with Biden, where they said, okay, we're going to cut the microphones off, you're not allowed to speak.
02:21:30.000And so I'm not sure whether that's the case for the 10th September debate with Harris, but it does look like now her campaign team is arguing that she should be able to have notes, right?
02:21:41.000And they didn't have notes previously, right?
02:23:40.000Oh, and then my stepdad called me up because he texted me that he was glad that I was suing MSNBC because there's this article that I'm suing them.
02:25:38.000And more than that, I just worry about the policies that, again, they haven't enunciated many of them, but I do worry about what they've thrown against the wall so far.
02:25:48.000A lot of these socialist-leaning ideas are very disturbing.
02:25:53.000And there's another thing that she's talked about, about equity as opposed to equality, and literally talking about equal outcomes, which is fucking insane.
02:26:03.000That's insane talk that doesn't work, because you're not going to have equal effort.
02:26:07.000The whole reason why this country works, the whole reason why capitalism works, is because of competition.
02:26:12.000That competition should be fair, but there is a reason why some people succeed more than others, and a lot of it has to do with effort.
02:26:20.000There's a lot of luck involved, there's a lot of nepotism involved, but also hard work.
02:26:26.000And if you want to have equality of outcome, you're going to have no incentive for people to work hard.
02:26:33.000You know what, to that point, my youngest boy, Muggsy, was telling me, he came home from school, this was towards the end of last year, And he was kind of chuckling to myself.
02:27:43.000And when they found out what had happened, because they had really tried it, and they had gotten very good grades, and then there's Jack with like a two out of a 100, and he gets the same result that they did.
02:27:57.000And I thought, well, I'm not sure whether I'm proud of that or not, but I think it's entertaining.
02:28:02.000Well, if he's not dumb, and he doesn't like the class, and he thought it'd be fun to just like get a good grade by doing nothing, he gamed the system.
02:28:54.000I mean, I think that one thing that they're obviously Probably somewhat happy about, they gotta be happy about it, is that moving into the election, you know, it does look like the Fed's gonna cut rates, right?
02:29:07.000And I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of people on the right who are gonna say, oh, of course, the Fed's doing that for political reasons, right?
02:31:36.000I mean, to me, it sounds a little bit like, you know, National Treasure, that movie with Nicolas Cage, where, you know, the secret book that they have, and they open the book, and they read what all the presidents have told them about things.
02:32:28.000At this point, nobody is still alive, right?
02:32:32.000And so you would think at this point, they'd say, ah, okay, fine.
02:32:35.000There can't be a sources and methods issue here, right?
02:32:38.000They can't be like, well, we're worried about if we open up this file, even if there's not like some smoking gun that said, You know, they did it, right?
02:32:46.000But even if it's just on the margins, like Lee Harvey Oswald went down to Mexico.
02:32:52.000We know that because, you know, meet with the Russian embassy down there.
02:32:54.000We know that because we had an asset who, you know, reported on it from inside the Russian embassy, whatever it may be.
02:34:28.000It was just something unsettling about that whole incident.
02:34:32.000So Yeah, I mean, look, any of these things would significantly undermine, past where it is now, I mean, already people have distrust, but...
02:34:44.000But if it was proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the CIA killed Kennedy, that would be a giant issue.
02:34:58.000Of course, I'm going to say what everybody expects me to say.
02:35:01.000The agency, and I can only speak from that point of view.
02:35:05.000I can't talk about the Bureau or Secret Service or others, but the agency does some tremendous work in pursuit of protecting national security interests.
02:35:15.000And I believe that most of the people that are involved are patriots.
02:35:18.000Yeah, but I will say, if that were to be proven without a doubt, because they declassified that paperwork, none of that shit's going to matter.
02:35:40.000And that was, you know, look, Carter put Stansfield-Turner into the agency basically to try to...
02:35:47.000You know, I would argue dismantle it, right?
02:35:50.000And that was, so there was a period of time when, and also after, of course, after World War II, they just shut down OSS. It was like, yeah, we don't need it, right?
02:36:00.000So would that create a moment where the public is saying, fuck this, we don't need it, we'll just maybe, you know, we'll see.
02:36:06.000But I guarantee you, something bad would then happen.
02:36:09.000And they would say, well, we need to reconstitute it in some fashion.
02:39:01.000We know that there was an Iran assassination attempt.
02:39:05.000There was something involved in that that was stopped.
02:39:08.000I guarantee there's people that want him gone.
02:39:12.000And to say now, I know what's gonna happen in November, things change so quickly, and it's so nuts, and our memory's so short, and everything happens so fast, and the news cycle is just flooded with new things constantly.
02:39:27.000I don't know what the fuck is gonna happen.
02:39:29.000Look at the short window of time from Let's go with the 13th of July, the rally when it was shot, through the RNC, right?
02:39:41.000From the perception, I was out in Milwaukee for something else, but I was out there during the RNC. Everybody, 100%, was convinced we got this in the bag.
02:39:52.000Short period of time later, Harris is supposedly in the lead.
02:40:26.000Well, if what he's saying is true, pretty fucking fascinating.
02:40:28.000There really is something bigger than an oil rig that's going 500 knots underneath the ocean, and they have video of it.
02:40:35.000It'd be kind of nice if you released that.
02:40:36.000They really do have 4K video of these crafts moving at insane speeds that are very high resolution and you can see exactly what you're looking at.
02:42:08.000But I always wanted to get your perspective on things because you're one of the few people that actually knows what they're talking about with these things.
02:42:31.000He hadn't been to the fights before, and he's a UFC fan, so he knows what he's doing, or he knows the players, and he had a great time out there.