The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2200 - Kat Timpf

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00:00:12.000 What's up?

00:00:13.000 Nice to meet you.

00:00:14.000 Great to meet you too.

00:00:15.000 Thank you.

00:00:16.000 Thanks for being here.

00:00:16.000 Of course, yeah, of course I'm here, right?

00:00:18.000 Of course I'm going to do this.

00:00:21.000 I'm glad you're doing it.

00:00:22.000 Yeah.

00:00:23.000 So, you wrote a book about, well, I think the title is I Used to Like You But?

00:00:28.000 Until.

00:00:29.000 Yeah, I Used to Like You Until.

00:00:31.000 Why did you want to do that?

00:00:32.000 What was the motivation behind that?

00:00:34.000 I mean, it's not a hot take that everything's so divided now, right?

00:00:38.000 I think a lot of people have noticed that.

00:00:40.000 But I think I'm really in this unique position where I kind of get it from both sides because I'm independent politically.

00:00:47.000 I just want very small government, which I think puts me at odds with both parties sometimes, depending on what the issue is. 0.98

00:00:53.000 So I will sometimes get shit from the... 0.99

00:00:57.000 I'm on Fox News, so I'll get sometimes shit from the viewers... 0.99

00:01:01.000 For sometimes more of this more social issues or I'm not religious, that kind of a thing. 0.99

00:01:06.000 But then the people on the left, a lot of them won't even want to have a conversation with me because they're like, oh, she works at Fox News.

00:01:11.000 That tells me everything I need to know about her.

00:01:13.000 And I think that that's doing some real damage overall to us as a country by the fact that we're letting...

00:01:21.000 Because I'm not special in that aspect, right?

00:01:23.000 People will let one aspect of a person completely just...

00:01:26.000 Oh, that's all I need to know about that person.

00:01:28.000 I'm not going to talk to that person.

00:01:29.000 Sure.

00:01:30.000 Yeah, that's a real problem.

00:01:32.000 And it's so funny, like, if you say, I'm independent, I just want small government, immediately people start thinking, prepper, you know, KKK, stockpiling guns, living in the woods, I'm independent, I want small government, is like, you might be a dangerous person.

00:01:48.000 Which is such a wild take.

00:01:50.000 Well, people think that just because you don't think the government's the best way to solve a problem, that doesn't actually mean you don't care about the problem. 0.99

00:01:56.000 So if you don't think the government can solve something like, oh, well, you're a piece of shit because you don't care about this or this or this. 0.99

00:02:02.000 No, I just don't think the government's going to solve it. 1.00

00:02:04.000 The problem with the government solving problems, the government is not financially invested in a solution.

00:02:10.000 They just want to have more jobs and they want to keep more bureaucracy and more people working on a problem, hence the California homeless problem.

00:02:20.000 Imagine if that was farmed off to the private sector. 0.95

00:02:23.000 Imagine if the only way to make money in the homeless problem is actually creating a solution for it.

00:02:29.000 Yeah, but like you said, there's no actual incentive for them to do that.

00:02:34.000 New York's the same.

00:02:35.000 I mean, I live in New York because I love my job, but if I didn't have my job, I would not live there because it's so expensive.

00:02:40.000 And I was in L.A. last week, and I was coming back from JFK in the morning after a red-eye.

00:02:47.000 I am exhausted.

00:02:48.000 I'm pregnant.

00:02:49.000 I'm trying to sleep in the car.

00:02:50.000 And the roads, I'm just getting pothole after pothole.

00:02:54.000 I'm like, where are my taxes going exactly? 1.00

00:02:57.000 Because everyone always says the roads are shit. 0.99

00:02:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:00.000 I lived in New York once.

00:03:02.000 I had to do an audition.

00:03:05.000 I lived in New Rochelle, so I lived right outside the Bronx.

00:03:07.000 And I drove to the city and home from the city. 0.99

00:03:10.000 I blew out one tire driving to the city at a pull over the side of the road, changed this fucking tire, dangerous, risking my life. 0.98

00:03:18.000 On the way back, I blew out another tire. 0.99

00:03:21.000 Yeah, geez.

00:03:22.000 From potholes.

00:03:23.000 Yeah, and it's so expensive. 1.00

00:03:24.000 You just hear that bang and you're like, shit! 1.00

00:03:27.000 Yeah, it's so expensive. 0.99

00:03:29.000 I mean, the fact that I feel very luxurious and it's like a flex to be able to have a child, actually, because we have enough space to put a baby in our rental apartment, which most people don't, actually.

00:03:41.000 I never thought I would get to that position.

00:03:42.000 People live in closets.

00:03:44.000 Yeah, I've lived in Claude.

00:03:45.000 When I first moved to New York, I lived in East Harlem.

00:03:48.000 I lived in a truly, actually dangerous neighborhood.

00:03:50.000 I was broken, just so broke.

00:03:53.000 And I don't know how people survive.

00:03:56.000 I really don't.

00:03:57.000 I don't know why.

00:03:58.000 I don't know how I did.

00:03:59.000 You can get jobs other places. 0.99

00:04:01.000 Yeah, I had my stupid dream, and it worked out well for me. 1.00

00:04:04.000 What was your stupid dream? 1.00

00:04:05.000 I wanted to do exactly what I'm doing now. 1.00

00:04:07.000 Congratulations.

00:04:07.000 Thank you.

00:04:08.000 I mean, and then it's, of course, you achieve something, you're like, what's the next thing?

00:04:11.000 What's the next thing?

00:04:12.000 I'm that current person.

00:04:13.000 And I'm also...

00:04:14.000 It's been a...

00:04:16.000 So I'm...

00:04:17.000 Off of amphetamines right now because I'm pregnant for the first time since I was five.

00:04:21.000 Whoa.

00:04:22.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:04:23.000 Whoa.

00:04:24.000 Yeah.

00:04:24.000 What kind of amphetamines?

00:04:25.000 I mean, you name it.

00:04:26.000 I mean, so I was five.

00:04:28.000 I do have ADHD. I was five years old.

00:04:31.000 What does that mean?

00:04:32.000 It can be a lot of things, right?

00:04:34.000 It can be lack of focus.

00:04:34.000 It can be emotional dysregulation.

00:04:37.000 But for me, a lot of times it's not diagnosed in women until they're older.

00:04:42.000 I was a nuisance.

00:04:44.000 I was unable to function in a classroom setting, which I think is more noticeable if you're a girl.

00:04:48.000 I was acting kind of like a boy, for lack of better.

00:04:51.000 I mean, I was... 0.99

00:04:53.000 Breaking shit. 0.99

00:04:54.000 I was like rough housing. 1.00

00:04:55.000 I was unable to function in the classroom and Then they we went and got my IQ looked at it.

00:05:01.000 Oh, she's really smart.

00:05:02.000 She just can't say I was on Ritalin since I was five And now I'm not Wow, isn't that crazy?

00:05:11.000 It is crazy.

00:05:12.000 I hear that and I'm like that sounds like me I don't know what it means because I bet you can focus on things that you enjoy and See, yes, I can.

00:05:22.000 But writing is really hard.

00:05:24.000 But writing is hard for everybody.

00:05:26.000 That's why no one's a writer.

00:05:27.000 Right, but I'm a writer.

00:05:28.000 But I've been on amphetamines since I was five.

00:05:30.000 I don't remember a time being off of them.

00:05:33.000 If I haven't been sick or in bed somewhere in the hospital, like really sick, I've been taking one of these drugs.

00:05:39.000 I mean, Vyvanse is what I was most recently taking.

00:05:41.000 So as an ambitious person, it's been tough for me to be pregnant.

00:05:45.000 But I don't know what of it is the pregnancy.

00:05:47.000 Because you're not amphetamines?

00:05:48.000 Amphetamines?

00:05:48.000 Right, I don't know.

00:05:49.000 I don't know what of it is the pregnancy, what of it is no amphetamines, what of it is no nicotine, because, I mean, I can't wait to go back to nicotine.

00:05:57.000 Cigarettes or pouches?

00:05:58.000 Pouches.

00:05:59.000 I like gum and pouches.

00:06:02.000 So, let me get this straight.

00:06:05.000 So, you're young, you're real energetic, you don't want to sit still in class, but are you interested in some things?

00:06:13.000 Like, do you focus on some things in your life?

00:06:16.000 Yeah, probably.

00:06:17.000 I was really into outside and bugs and reptiles.

00:06:20.000 Right.

00:06:20.000 And when you're around those things, did you focus?

00:06:22.000 Probably.

00:06:23.000 I mean, I don't remember that well.

00:06:24.000 Yeah, that's why I don't know what this is.

00:06:26.000 Because every time someone talks about ADHD and people want to insist that it's an actual pathology, that it's an actual issue.

00:06:34.000 And I'm always like, boy, I don't know, because I think it's a superpower.

00:06:38.000 So for me, I've just decided to view it like, okay, I'm not taking this.

00:06:43.000 They told me you can take the medication while you're pregnant, but we just don't know what an effect will have. 0.76

00:06:48.000 I'm like, well, I'm not comfortable with that.

00:06:51.000 So I quit it.

00:06:53.000 I quit nicotine, quit everything.

00:06:55.000 But, you know, I just try to view it as an experiment.

00:06:57.000 Like, I've never been off of these drugs, and I'm going to try being off of these drugs.

00:07:01.000 Doing the most simple task to me feels like I'm doing it through mud.

00:07:05.000 It's really hard for me.

00:07:06.000 Yes, it's really hard.

00:07:07.000 But one thing that I think I'm gonna after I give birth I'm gonna go back to it to some extent But I don't want to use it on stage anymore because I feel like I've been better on stage without amphetamines Well, I know people that do I've never done amphetamines I've never done Adderall.

00:07:23.000 I've never done coke.

00:07:23.000 I'm scared of them But a buddy of mine who had done Adderall and then gone on stage said it was terrible So yeah, he was never smiling.

00:07:30.000 He was all serious when he was up there.

00:07:32.000 He said it was awful.

00:07:32.000 Yeah to me and I guess I feel normal, but I've never really been off of it.

00:07:37.000 Like it was never really my decision.

00:07:39.000 It was never my decision to go on it.

00:07:41.000 So what makes you think that you're better on stage off of it?

00:07:44.000 Because one of my root issues is impulse control, which is a problem, and everywhere but a stage, right?

00:07:51.000 Because if you're not thinking too much, then you're gonna be better on stage, I think.

00:07:55.000 So I think, I don't get as nervous.

00:07:58.000 I'm not thinking as much about what if I say this, I just have already said it.

00:08:01.000 And on a stage, that's the best place for that.

00:08:04.000 That's the one place where you can really do that, and it's gonna be okay.

00:08:08.000 So I still, the writing is tough, doing laundry is tough, being emotionally stable is tough.

00:08:16.000 But my husband is a very patient man, but I also don't know what of that is the pregnancy.

00:08:21.000 I am not sure.

00:08:22.000 Right.

00:08:22.000 Is it your first one?

00:08:23.000 It's my first one.

00:08:23.000 Yeah, so there's lots going on.

00:08:25.000 There's a lot going on.

00:08:27.000 But it's like, I'm so messed up because I've done these, the amphetamines were so long that let's just say if something doesn't go well, I'm like, it would have been better if I was on Vyvanse.

00:08:35.000 So it's like, you know, because I don't know.

00:08:39.000 But it's, you know, but I just don't know because I've heard, from what I've heard, if you're pregnant, that can make you a little crazy too.

00:08:45.000 I'm sure.

00:08:45.000 Right?

00:08:46.000 I mean...

00:08:46.000 Well, your hormones are going crazy.

00:08:47.000 You got a little person growing inside your body.

00:08:49.000 It's so weird.

00:08:49.000 And I know it's...

00:08:50.000 So much going on.

00:08:50.000 It's the most normal thing ever.

00:08:52.000 I get that, like, everybody does it.

00:08:53.000 That's why we're all here.

00:08:54.000 But, like, I've never done it.

00:08:55.000 Right.

00:08:55.000 And to me, it's wild.

00:08:56.000 I don't think it's normal.

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00:10:05.000 It's weird.

00:10:06.000 It only happens every now and again to people.

00:10:09.000 It only happens to one half of the population.

00:10:11.000 Yes.

00:10:11.000 And it's the reason why life is here and it's treated as if it's not that big of a deal.

00:10:17.000 Yeah, it really is. 0.98

00:10:18.000 And it's one of the main focuses in this election is whether or not you can kill the baby. 0.98

00:10:24.000 I'm sorry to say it that way.

00:10:25.000 I mean, I'm not in any way trying to take away someone's right to choose.

00:10:30.000 I'm not that guy.

00:10:31.000 But I'm just saying what it actually is, is you're deciding whether or not someone should be able to tell you whether you could terminate the baby that's inside of you that's going to become a person.

00:10:41.000 Well, yeah, I think that's obviously, I mean, I'm pro-choice.

00:10:44.000 I just don't think the government should be involved in it at all.

00:10:46.000 I don't think so either.

00:10:46.000 And I think that there's all these, there's so many different levels to it, right?

00:10:51.000 Like my husband and I, we froze embryos years ago.

00:10:54.000 So I have nine frozen kids too.

00:10:56.000 Yo, yeah, kids just waiting to give you thought out.

00:10:59.000 But those are like, those are just a couple cells that are in a freezer.

00:11:03.000 Whatever.

00:11:03.000 Who knows what's in there?

00:11:05.000 I mean...

00:11:05.000 Who knows what's in the embryo?

00:11:07.000 Really?

00:11:08.000 So you think I should have all of them?

00:11:09.000 I don't know what's in there.

00:11:11.000 I don't know.

00:11:12.000 I mean, what if every embryo is a life?

00:11:17.000 And not just a life, but a soul.

00:11:19.000 And a soul waiting to emerge.

00:11:21.000 Like, once you've done the deed.

00:11:23.000 I'm not that guy.

00:11:24.000 I'm not this religious...

00:11:25.000 No, I don't think you are.

00:11:26.000 I'm not this guy.

00:11:26.000 But I'm just, let's put it out there.

00:11:28.000 Like, what the fuck is that if that thing can become a person? 0.99

00:11:31.000 You put it in your body... 1.00

00:11:33.000 Thaws out, whatever.

00:11:34.000 I don't know the process.

00:11:35.000 Yeah, I don't really either.

00:11:36.000 I don't really either.

00:11:37.000 I just kind of did it.

00:11:38.000 All of a sudden, it's a person?

00:11:39.000 You're storing people in a lab somewhere?

00:11:42.000 And do they have memory of being stored?

00:11:45.000 Do we have long-term data about the trauma of being a frozen embryo for 10 years?

00:11:51.000 Do we have any idea whether or not it has any effect on the human being?

00:11:55.000 How long have they been doing this?

00:11:58.000 What's the long-term data on what kind of a person comes out of fraud?

00:12:01.000 What are we making a bunch of sociopaths?

00:12:05.000 I feel like we've done it enough time, IVF, right?

00:12:09.000 Do you really think they've studied it?

00:12:11.000 Looked at the personalities of the people?

00:12:13.000 Whether or not they have weird dreams about being stuck in a freezer? 0.97

00:12:15.000 Well, sociopaths come from sex, too. 0.99

00:12:17.000 From sex? 1.00

00:12:18.000 No, the babies that come from sex can grow up to be sociopaths. 0.99

00:12:21.000 How do the babies come any other way? 0.83

00:12:24.000 IVF. IVF. There's IVF and then there's the sex way. 0.92

00:12:27.000 So you're saying that all the babies that are sociopaths come from sex? 0.96

00:12:31.000 No, I'm saying that some of them do. 0.96

00:12:34.000 Any baby could be a sociopath. 0.80

00:12:35.000 Yes. 1.00

00:12:35.000 Which is why I waited so long to have kids and I'm terrified because also what if it's like a few degrees below a sociopath and my kid just sucks. 1.00

00:12:44.000 I don't think you have to worry about that. 0.99

00:12:46.000 My kid's the one that shows up and everyone's like, ah, shit, you know, so-and-so's kids here. 0.98

00:12:50.000 Do your best. 0.99

00:12:51.000 I don't think you really have to worry about that.

00:12:53.000 The reason why I brought that up is because Ted Kaczynski, when he was young, there was something wrong with them, some sort of medical condition, and they brought him to some hospital where he received no touch, no physical touch, for like a long period of time, like months and months.

00:13:08.000 Yeah.

00:13:08.000 And his brother who turned him in, his brother who read the Unabomber's manifesto and realized, like, I know how this guy's talking.

00:13:16.000 My brother's a genius and a real psycho. 0.81

00:13:19.000 And this is my brother. 0.91

00:13:20.000 And so he turned him in and that's how they called the Unabomber.

00:13:22.000 But he attributes one of the things that's wrong with his brother with the time where he was a baby where he received no touch and no love. 1.00

00:13:30.000 And that it just fucked with his head. 0.99

00:13:32.000 And I wonder... 1.00

00:13:34.000 Those little embryos just sit in a freezer somewhere.

00:13:38.000 I don't think so.

00:13:39.000 I don't know either.

00:13:40.000 I don't think so.

00:13:42.000 Religion thinks that the soul enters the body on the 48th day, right?

00:13:46.000 Is that what it is?

00:13:47.000 I think every religion's different.

00:13:48.000 I think there's some people who are really socially conservative religious that are opposed to IVF in general because embryos are discarded or they die and that kind of a thing.

00:13:59.000 Yeah, I've heard that as an argument against what Donald Trump has been saying about paying for IVF. Right.

00:14:05.000 And we need more babies. 0.98

00:14:06.000 And everybody's like, yay.

00:14:07.000 And then the psychos went, no, no, no.

00:14:09.000 70% of all IVF babies are never used and they're discarded.

00:14:13.000 And like, okay.

00:14:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:14:15.000 And my dumb ass, I just talk about it all. 1.00

00:14:17.000 I'm like, I have nine frozen blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:14:19.000 Listen, you're just being transparent.

00:14:21.000 I think that's a strong quality.

00:14:23.000 Well, thank you.

00:14:24.000 It gets me into trouble sometimes, but it's much less stressful than the alternative of having to worry about things being uncovered that I've been hiding from people.

00:14:32.000 I mean, a lot of times those are the creepiest people.

00:14:34.000 Oh, for sure.

00:14:35.000 The people that are, everything's great, everything's perfect.

00:14:38.000 It's like...

00:14:38.000 For sure.

00:14:39.000 Yeah.

00:14:40.000 Well, also, I've always found that the people that want to control other people most likely are out of control of some aspect of themselves.

00:14:47.000 If I see men that are really invested in telling women what to do and controlling women, some weird thing that I was reading about people wanting to monitor employees' periods.

00:15:01.000 Yeah.

00:15:02.000 There was a concern about that, right?

00:15:04.000 Where if, I don't, again, there was a concern about it.

00:15:07.000 I don't know if it was ever really a thing, but it was a concern about it happening potentially.

00:15:10.000 Where if abortion was illegal, they could get data from these apps that track your period.

00:15:17.000 And I have one because it now tracks my, it tells me like, your baby's the size of a pomegranate this week.

00:15:22.000 And I'm like, oh, that's okay.

00:15:23.000 Right?

00:15:23.000 But if, let's say, it was telling me all that and I miss my period, then it could be watching me to see if I was obtaining an abortion pill online or something like that.

00:15:34.000 Right.

00:15:34.000 If my period was...

00:15:36.000 Which is crazy also because miscarriage is some of the most emotionally devastating things for women. 1.00

00:15:41.000 And then to be accused of killing your baby after a miscarriage.

00:15:44.000 Exactly.

00:15:46.000 The app read wrong.

00:15:47.000 The app read wrong.

00:15:48.000 The app saw that you missed your period.

00:15:49.000 Yeah, the app decided that you should be investigated in this time of insane sorrow.

00:15:54.000 Yeah.

00:15:55.000 Well, we have no privacy.

00:15:57.000 And it's one of the scariest, biggest issues for me.

00:16:00.000 It's a giant issue.

00:16:01.000 It's just how many things between banks and the government be able to look at...

00:16:07.000 They were never supposed to be able to look at all the things that they're looking at.

00:16:10.000 Right.

00:16:10.000 And that's why people have to be concerned about it.

00:16:12.000 Well, in two separate occasions, I've had private text messages that were publicly available because of trials.

00:16:21.000 One of them was Alex Jones.

00:16:23.000 Alex Jones and I were texting about something.

00:16:25.000 And they wanted every text that Alex Jones and I had ever sent each other.

00:16:31.000 I'm like, well, okay, why?

00:16:34.000 Because it was all about the Sandy Hook thing.

00:16:37.000 And the only text that they found was there was some crazy story, and I sent it to him, and I said, is this true?

00:16:44.000 That's it.

00:16:44.000 That's the extent of our discussion.

00:16:47.000 But that got read, like, in court, and then it got printed online, and printed, and I was like, wow, that's crazy.

00:16:52.000 Like, that a private communication between people, all of a sudden, not just gets read in court, but also gets distributed on the news Mm-hmm.

00:17:02.000 That's my nightmare, is having my private text messages.

00:17:06.000 Good luck with my memes folder. 0.99

00:17:08.000 My fucking memes folder is chaos. 1.00

00:17:10.000 That's my nightmare. 0.99

00:17:11.000 I mean, the things I text to people, every time that happens, when people's texts get public, I'm more horrified that the texts get public than most of whatever's in the messages.

00:17:21.000 It's such an invasion.

00:17:22.000 It's such a violation. 0.99

00:17:24.000 It also doesn't take into account shit-talking. 0.99

00:17:28.000 Exactly! 0.99

00:17:29.000 Which is a huge factor, especially with people like us.

00:17:32.000 You say funny things to your friends that you don't really mean.

00:17:35.000 Sometimes you're just doing a bit.

00:17:36.000 Yes!

00:17:37.000 All the time!

00:17:38.000 Like half of the...

00:17:39.000 Texts that I go back and forth with comedian friends are just nonsense.

00:17:44.000 Exactly.

00:17:44.000 A lot of times you're just doing a bit.

00:17:46.000 It's something between friends.

00:17:47.000 And if you could see so many of my group chats, if you could see with comedians, with people, you could see what we're saying.

00:17:52.000 I mean, it'd be horrible.

00:17:52.000 It'd be over for me.

00:17:53.000 I'd have to start a new life under a new name.

00:17:54.000 But why?

00:17:55.000 But it wouldn't.

00:17:56.000 It wouldn't. 1.00

00:17:56.000 Because I think people are done with that horse shit. 1.00

00:17:58.000 They think it's stupid. 1.00

00:17:59.000 They really do. 1.00

00:18:00.000 It is stupid. 1.00

00:18:01.000 But I think more people think it's stupid, but fewer people will admit they think it's stupid because they're worried about it. 1.00

00:18:07.000 Well, that's true, too. 1.00

00:18:08.000 And also, there's a lot of people that just love to watch people get fucked over. 0.99

00:18:13.000 They really do. 0.99

00:18:14.000 And they cheer it on.

00:18:15.000 They cheer it on.

00:18:16.000 They get excited about it.

00:18:17.000 I think it's people who...

00:18:18.000 I mean, I'm always more interested in examining that.

00:18:22.000 There's leaked...

00:18:23.000 There's this thing now where it's people are trying to cancel people over things that they said or tweeted or posted when they were 13 years old.

00:18:30.000 Well, I can help you with that.

00:18:31.000 It's real simple.

00:18:32.000 But they've never reached their potential that they thought they would reach.

00:18:37.000 So if they can't become whoever, maybe they can take whoever down who did.

00:18:41.000 100%.

00:18:42.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:18:43.000 And it's also, if you look at people's lives, there's a lot of people out there that are deeply unhappy.

00:18:49.000 What is the statistic?

00:18:50.000 There's some crazy statistic we read recently about the amount of men who are not in relationships and are not having sex.

00:18:58.000 I think it's like 50%.

00:18:59.000 Really?

00:19:01.000 Something bonkers. 0.81

00:19:04.000 50% of men are not having sex. 0.97

00:19:06.000 Something bonkers. 0.96

00:19:08.000 Yeah.

00:19:08.000 Because people are just online.

00:19:11.000 Like, if you have a shit job, you know that Call of Duty is waiting. 0.99

00:19:14.000 And all you have to do is put those headphones on and sit in front of that computer and now life is exciting. 1.00

00:19:21.000 Maybe, ugh.

00:19:22.000 I dated a Call of Duty guy once, so it's a little triggering for me.

00:19:26.000 And I was in my early 20s, I'm like young and beautiful and sitting there, and then he's like on his video.

00:19:31.000 And I married a man who fought in an actual war, so that was much better for me.

00:19:35.000 I'm like, that's good.

00:19:36.000 You learn from that.

00:19:37.000 You don't learn anything from the video.

00:19:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:39.000 I would hate my husband if he didn't go to war, actually, because he's a good man from a good family who had a good upbringing and went to boarding school, and I'm like, if he didn't have the trauma of the war, I wouldn't like him, I feel.

00:19:53.000 That's funny.

00:19:53.000 Right?

00:19:54.000 Well, I think people going through things definitely makes them stronger.

00:19:57.000 The rise of sexless men, sexless and single men, a third. 0.61

00:20:01.000 Wow.

00:20:02.000 So it's a third.

00:20:03.000 I thought it was half.

00:20:04.000 But that's still alarming.

00:20:05.000 A third of men aren't having sex, and here's why.

00:20:08.000 The last decade alone, we see the number of sexless men between ages 18 and 30 increase by 253%.

00:20:15.000 That's nuts.

00:20:20.000 Wow, it's just skyrocketing.

00:20:23.000 Yeah, not good.

00:20:25.000 It's not good.

00:20:25.000 So those are the people that are mad at you.

00:20:28.000 Those are the people that are in my Instagram.

00:20:29.000 Like, we feel bad for your husband. 1.00

00:20:31.000 You're disgusting. 1.00

00:20:33.000 Yeah, you can't read that stuff. 0.99

00:20:34.000 Oh, I mean, it's funny.

00:20:35.000 It's come across it sometimes, but I don't, you know.

00:20:38.000 It's good to not read that stuff.

00:20:40.000 Yeah, it's better not to.

00:20:41.000 It's 100% better not to.

00:20:43.000 It's better not to.

00:20:44.000 There's no benefit in reading, even the good stuff.

00:20:46.000 You know, the good stuff you never...

00:20:49.000 You're like, okay...

00:20:49.000 Yeah, don't read it.

00:20:50.000 But sometimes I get, you know, emails that they make me laugh.

00:20:54.000 I mean, sometimes I see things that make me laugh, you know?

00:20:56.000 Yeah, occasionally, but it's not worth the ones that don't.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, no, I hear you.

00:20:59.000 It's like, if you ate...

00:21:02.000 Like gas station trail mix and every now and then there was a fentanyl in one.

00:21:06.000 There probably is at this point. 0.99

00:21:09.000 But you know, if you had like 10 bags of trail mix and every now and then one of them gives you a pill that puts you in a fucking coma, you would stop eating trail mix. 0.99

00:21:20.000 No, I hear what you're saying. 0.91

00:21:21.000 I recently posted a video where I responded to hate tweets or whatever and I made my team go find them.

00:21:26.000 I was like, will you guys go find the funny ones because I don't want to look at all of them.

00:21:30.000 Oh, that's better.

00:21:31.000 Yeah, because you don't want to go in a spiral finding only people who hate you.

00:21:35.000 And when you're dealing with something like Fox News, you're dealing with numbers.

00:21:39.000 I mean, the numbers of human beings that see you on TV all the time are huge.

00:21:43.000 And then the numbers of deranged people that also think the country is falling apart and they're super tribal.

00:21:49.000 They want you to be all in with Trump.

00:21:52.000 All in! 0.99

00:21:54.000 And if you're not all in, they're ready to put the duct tape and the fucking zip ties in the truck and head out the door. 0.99

00:22:01.000 It would be so much easier for me to just be all in. 0.99

00:22:04.000 I know people who give in.

00:22:05.000 I know people who do it kind of disingenuously, give in on purpose.

00:22:08.000 Well, I would, I mean, I do well, right?

00:22:11.000 I sell out shows.

00:22:12.000 I'd sell out all the shows and faster.

00:22:15.000 If you were all MAGA? I would sell more books.

00:22:17.000 I mean, the platform that I'm on every single night, the people who are watching are MAGA people. 1.00

00:22:23.000 And so if I were, you know, if money was the thing I was the most after, I would be an idiot. 1.00

00:22:29.000 Maybe I am an idiot. 1.00

00:22:30.000 I can't do it. 1.00

00:22:31.000 I can't do it.

00:22:32.000 The thing is, it would change who you are.

00:22:34.000 Exactly.

00:22:35.000 I can't do it.

00:22:36.000 It would ruin what got you to the dance.

00:22:40.000 That's the problem. 1.00

00:22:41.000 You're opinionated, you like to have fun, you like to be impulsive and say crazy shit off the cuff. 0.98

00:22:47.000 If you're only thinking about appeasing one certain group, that power goes away. 0.99

00:22:52.000 Right, yeah.

00:22:53.000 I just couldn't do it.

00:22:54.000 I mean, again, if you actually are super MAGA and you love Trump and you're one of those people, then good for you.

00:23:00.000 I have no judgment of that.

00:23:02.000 That's fine.

00:23:02.000 Live your life.

00:23:03.000 Have fun.

00:23:04.000 But can you please be okay with the fact that I'm not?

00:23:07.000 The way that I'm okay with you?

00:23:08.000 Did you see the Amazon Alexa when they asked Alexa why you should vote for Trump or why you should vote for Biden?

00:23:15.000 No, I didn't.

00:23:16.000 What happened?

00:23:17.000 It's crazy.

00:23:18.000 What happened?

00:23:19.000 It's so crazy.

00:23:20.000 Jamie, I can send it to you or you might be able to find it.

00:23:23.000 It is so nuts what Amazon's, what Alexa's responses, the difference between...

00:23:29.000 I'm sure there's a vast, yes.

00:23:31.000 There's a Grand Canyon between the two of them.

00:23:35.000 Yeah.

00:23:35.000 Do you have it or you want me to get it?

00:23:42.000 Hold on.

00:23:43.000 What is this?

00:23:44.000 Amazon's Alexa differing responses about voting Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris were an error that it has fixed.

00:23:49.000 Oh, of course.

00:23:49.000 Listen, it's not an error.

00:23:50.000 Yeah, of course it's not.

00:23:51.000 It's not an error because they literally asked the exact same questions about Obama and, or excuse me, about Trump and about Kamala.

00:24:00.000 The exact same questions.

00:24:03.000 I'm sorry, I'm distracted because I'm trying to look for it while I'm talking.

00:24:07.000 Why should I vote for Donald Trump?

00:24:11.000 I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party.

00:24:15.000 Oh, I think I did see this.

00:24:17.000 Watch this.

00:24:18.000 Alexa, why should I vote for Kamala Harris? 0.57

00:24:25.000 While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris, the most significant may be that she is a strong candidate with a proven track record of accomplishment.

00:24:33.000 As the first female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major gender barrier, and her career in politics has been characterized by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on helping disenfranchised communities.

00:24:47.000 So just woke propaganda straight from Alexa.

00:24:51.000 Just listen to the language being used.

00:24:53.000 The glass ceiling.

00:24:56.000 Progressive ideas.

00:24:58.000 It's not surprising.

00:24:59.000 And of course, Kamala is completely just an idea that's been manufactured.

00:25:03.000 It's been amazing to watch.

00:25:04.000 It's been so insane to watch.

00:25:06.000 I mean, the Joe Biden thing, I think, is a perfect example.

00:25:10.000 The fact that that went on for so long is a perfect example of how the hyper-partisanship allows things to happen.

00:25:17.000 Because Joe was very clearly not okay for a while.

00:25:20.000 I mean, anybody who was watching that and just seeing it, if that's your grandpa...

00:25:25.000 If that were my grandpa, who's...

00:25:26.000 My grandpa's almost 90, so he's got like 10 years on the guy.

00:25:29.000 I'd be like, Papa...

00:25:30.000 We need to go to the hospital.

00:25:31.000 Like, you're not okay.

00:25:32.000 But that became a Republican thing to say.

00:25:35.000 So people weren't saying it until they couldn't possibly hide it anymore, right? 1.00

00:25:39.000 So I think that's a perfect example of how partisanship leads to some really stupid shit. 1.00

00:25:44.000 But I was actually shocked that they threw her in there. 1.00

00:25:47.000 And just right before that, people were saying, worst vice president ever.

00:25:51.000 Obviously, you know, not popular. 0.90

00:25:53.000 Now she's, you know, she's brat. 1.00

00:25:58.000 Charlie XCX is trying to make it cool.

00:26:00.000 She's a DA. She locked people up for cocaine. 1.00

00:26:03.000 She's not for weed. 1.00

00:26:05.000 She's not brat.

00:26:06.000 It's just been so crazy to watch.

00:26:08.000 People are so excited and they don't even know what they're excited about.

00:26:11.000 It's just gaslighting on an industrial level.

00:26:15.000 Like a production machine level where you're like, wow, look at this thing work.

00:26:20.000 This is nuts.

00:26:22.000 It's like watching a car get put together by robots.

00:26:24.000 Like, whoa.

00:26:25.000 Yeah.

00:26:26.000 And people get really mad.

00:26:27.000 People get mad at me for working at...

00:26:29.000 I mean, even in my personal life, for working at Fox News, people are like, how could you work?

00:26:32.000 I'm like, what do you mean?

00:26:33.000 Did you see where they compared the differences in her speech in Detroit versus her speech in Pittsburgh?

00:26:40.000 Yeah.

00:26:41.000 We need to watch this.

00:26:42.000 First of all, what's fascinating is...

00:26:46.000 If I was in her court, if I was working with her, I'd say, listen, listen, listen.

00:26:50.000 First of all, nothing off the cuff.

00:26:52.000 Ever.

00:26:53.000 Nothing off the cuff.

00:26:54.000 Ever.

00:26:54.000 No interviews.

00:26:55.000 Ever.

00:26:55.000 Speeches.

00:26:56.000 Just speeches.

00:26:57.000 Teleprompter only.

00:26:57.000 We're busy.

00:26:58.000 We're busy trying to fix the world.

00:27:00.000 We don't have time for interviews.

00:27:01.000 I'd say no interviews.

00:27:02.000 Because interviews are when things go sideways.

00:27:04.000 So like CNN was 41 minutes.

00:27:06.000 They edited it down to 18 and all of it sucked.

00:27:08.000 18 minutes of nothing. 0.76

00:27:11.000 Yeah, I want to see the rest.

00:27:13.000 Also, the difference between the way they probe J.D. Vance versus the way they probe her and Walt.

00:27:19.000 So listen, Kamala in Detroit versus Kamala in Pittsburgh, literally five hours apart.

00:27:27.000 Unbelievable.

00:27:33.000 The accent.

00:27:34.000 I can't.

00:27:43.000 It's so embarrassing, too!

00:27:46.000 It would be one thing if she did that all the time. 0.98

00:27:48.000 Right, of course.

00:27:49.000 She's got, you know, the ability to talk like that if she enjoys it. 1.00

00:27:52.000 Sure. 1.00

00:27:53.000 You know, she wants to talk a little shit. 1.00

00:27:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:27:55.000 That's how she's doing it, but...

00:27:57.000 It seems like it's all this construct.

00:28:00.000 Of course it is!

00:28:01.000 You ever been to Universal in Hollywood where they shoot TV shows and you go down the street and it's these facades that look like a city street.

00:28:09.000 But behind them is just a bunch of boards holding up the front of the building.

00:28:12.000 There's no house.

00:28:13.000 Yeah.

00:28:14.000 That's what this is like.

00:28:15.000 Yeah, it's exactly what it's like.

00:28:16.000 And I still have no idea.

00:28:17.000 She could win.

00:28:17.000 She could totally win.

00:28:19.000 I know a lot of people that think it's a good idea to vote for her. 0.99

00:28:21.000 Yeah, so do I. I was watching Ben Stiller with his fucking eyes glazed over, just talking about how great she's going to be. 0.98

00:28:27.000 I was like, this is fascinating. 0.98

00:28:29.000 Yeah.

00:28:30.000 I get it.

00:28:31.000 It's the lesser of two evils in their eyes.

00:28:34.000 That's what they're looking at.

00:28:35.000 But boy, you should not be happy with this.

00:28:37.000 Nothing about you should be excited about what they've done to you because they've tricked you into talking about something in a very positive way that you just recently didn't talk about in a positive way.

00:28:49.000 And there was nothing that happened that changed that person.

00:28:52.000 It was nothing that she did.

00:28:53.000 She hadn't even spoken at all for several days.

00:28:55.000 And people are like, Kamala, Kamala.

00:28:57.000 I mean, the cover of the Time Magazine without an interview is crazy.

00:29:00.000 I mean, I'm so jealous.

00:29:01.000 I can't.

00:29:03.000 After I give birth, I'm going to just have my husband bring me a pack of Zins immediately. 0.98

00:29:12.000 Nicotine's the best for writing, for working, for everything.

00:29:15.000 It's great for a lot of things.

00:29:16.000 It's just the delivery methods.

00:29:18.000 Yeah.

00:29:18.000 Or problematic?

00:29:19.000 I had a problem with vaping for a while.

00:29:21.000 Like, it was bad.

00:29:22.000 I'd be in public with multiple vapes, and I was like, you can't be doing that.

00:29:28.000 Those are so addictive.

00:29:29.000 They're so addictive.

00:29:29.000 I was one of the first vapors.

00:29:31.000 I quit for...

00:29:32.000 I'm serious.

00:29:33.000 I quit.

00:29:34.000 My buddy Adam has one of them robot things.

00:29:37.000 I did.

00:29:37.000 Lunchboxes.

00:29:38.000 I had a laboratory in my house.

00:29:40.000 It was like...

00:29:41.000 It was like, I was seeing all my liquids.

00:29:44.000 What is the benefit of having a big box vape?

00:29:47.000 It just rips harder.

00:29:49.000 I used to love to blow fat clouds.

00:29:52.000 I had to get a dental procedure done, something super minor, whatever.

00:29:57.000 I couldn't vape for 24 hours.

00:29:59.000 I put so many nicotine patches on my body, and I still didn't even feel anything.

00:30:05.000 It should have killed me or at least made me throw up.

00:30:07.000 And I was like, ugh.

00:30:08.000 And then I still kept vaping.

00:30:09.000 I eventually, when I quit vaping and I was using pouches to help me quit vaping, And I was using 12-milligram pouches.

00:30:17.000 I try those.

00:30:18.000 I can't do it.

00:30:18.000 I start hiccuping.

00:30:19.000 I have to put them away. 0.99

00:30:20.000 I almost have a fucking heart attack. 0.99

00:30:22.000 Most decent people, which is why I'm saying I had a problem and I quit. 0.99

00:30:27.000 Now I got down to six.

00:30:28.000 And now zero, obviously, because of this baby.

00:30:31.000 I like threes.

00:30:32.000 Yeah, I can't wait.

00:30:32.000 I want to get six.

00:30:33.000 I can't wait.

00:30:34.000 I'm going to be in the hospital bed.

00:30:35.000 I'm going to be like...

00:30:37.000 Like, I can't wait.

00:30:38.000 But you can't because it'll get in the milk.

00:30:40.000 That's what I've...

00:30:40.000 Can you pump and dump, right?

00:30:42.000 Yeah, but you're going to be pumping out nicotine.

00:30:46.000 For sure.

00:30:47.000 Okay, but...

00:30:48.000 Is it...

00:30:49.000 Okay, I'm going to try...

00:30:52.000 No, I'm going to try to breastfeed, okay?

00:30:55.000 Oh, you should definitely breastfeed. 1.00

00:30:56.000 I know I should, but it's like I've already had nine months of no nicotine.

00:31:00.000 That's the thing that's the hardest for me.

00:31:02.000 Yeah, but once you've kicked it, you should probably try to keep it off.

00:31:05.000 No?

00:31:06.000 No.

00:31:07.000 I think about nicotine every day.

00:31:10.000 Like, every day.

00:31:11.000 Were you ever a cigarette smoker?

00:31:13.000 In college I smoked when I drank, and in college I drank a lot.

00:31:15.000 Because I was in college.

00:31:17.000 Okay, and so then vaping comes along when?

00:31:20.000 Vaping comes along probably when I was mid-twenties.

00:31:25.000 And I did it for eight years.

00:31:27.000 And do you start with like regular vapes that you buy at the gas station and move your way up to robots?

00:31:33.000 I started with the blue cigs and then they just weren't hitting hard enough for me anymore.

00:31:37.000 I was ripping multiple blue cigs and then I love the Juul.

00:31:41.000 I mean, so there's these things in Detroit called breezes.

00:31:44.000 I don't know if you can get them other places, but I'm from the Detroit area, and I was having, I don't know, this is illegal, so I probably shouldn't say this, but my brother may have been sending shipments in to me, you know, when they were illegal in New York, because the breezes were the best.

00:31:59.000 Why were they illegal in New York?

00:32:01.000 For a while, well, they weren't sold in New York, but for a while there was supposed to be, the jewels, rather, the jewels were illegal in New York, and then we weren't sure about what was going to be legal in New York, because, do you remember that, when they made jewel pods illegal?

00:32:13.000 I don't, because I don't think they ever became illegal in California.

00:32:17.000 But they did make them...

00:32:18.000 The mango ones.

00:32:19.000 Flavored ones are illegal, which is hilarious. 1.00

00:32:21.000 And that was my shit. 0.99

00:32:23.000 The mango jewel... 1.00

00:32:24.000 When you get a fresh one and it makes that crackling sound.

00:32:27.000 And honestly, if I found a mango jewel pod somewhere in my house...

00:32:31.000 Right now?

00:32:32.000 No, not when I'm pregnant. 0.97

00:32:33.000 That's the thing that sucks.

00:32:34.000 I love this baby so much that I've not even met yet.

00:32:37.000 That's wonderful.

00:32:38.000 That's a real commitment.

00:32:40.000 I know, but it's so weird for my brand to love this baby.

00:32:43.000 I never thought I'd have kids.

00:32:45.000 I never wanted to.

00:32:47.000 And now I'm like, my baby's the size of a cucumber.

00:32:51.000 Well, you're doing the right thing by not feeding it Jules.

00:32:53.000 Of course.

00:32:54.000 I really think so.

00:32:54.000 Of course, but I'm going to go back.

00:32:56.000 But you have to go back in your mind.

00:32:58.000 Yes.

00:32:59.000 Wow.

00:32:59.000 I'm a better...

00:33:00.000 Both my books I wrote on nicotine had nicotine gum in my...

00:33:04.000 I just want to have something in my jaw.

00:33:07.000 What is the side effects that they think can happen to kids?

00:33:10.000 Like premature birth, I think.

00:33:12.000 Oh, boy.

00:33:12.000 Really bad stuff.

00:33:14.000 Oh, bad ones.

00:33:14.000 Really bad ones.

00:33:15.000 And is that from smoking or is that from nicotine itself?

00:33:19.000 I think nicotine.

00:33:19.000 I mean, I'm really limited.

00:33:20.000 I mean, I can't...

00:33:20.000 It's like...

00:33:20.000 You can't really do stimulants when you're pregnant.

00:33:23.000 You can't do anything when you're pregnant. 0.99

00:33:24.000 I can have 200 milligrams of caffeine a day.

00:33:26.000 So is being off of caffeine hard?

00:33:32.000 You can have 200 milligrams of caffeine a day.

00:33:35.000 So is being off the stimulus, is that the hardest?

00:33:37.000 Or is that harder than nicotine?

00:33:39.000 See, I don't know.

00:33:40.000 Because I've always done them together.

00:33:42.000 And so did you have to wean yourself off or did you go cold turkey as soon as you knew that?

00:33:46.000 I had to go cold turkey.

00:33:47.000 Wow.

00:33:48.000 So what was that like? 1.00

00:33:49.000 I was a bitch. 0.99

00:33:51.000 For how long? 1.00

00:33:52.000 A couple weeks.

00:33:52.000 It was really rough.

00:33:54.000 Wow.

00:33:54.000 Because your equilibrium has to come back?

00:33:58.000 Yeah.

00:33:58.000 Well, I had a doctor tell me that I probably couldn't get pregnant without medication.

00:34:02.000 That if I took medication, I would have a 10% chance of getting pregnant. 1.00

00:34:06.000 Naturally, as they say.

00:34:07.000 The sex way. 0.65

00:34:08.000 I would just live my life.

00:34:09.000 And then I didn't feel good.

00:34:11.000 And then I took a test.

00:34:12.000 And I was like, here we go.

00:34:13.000 And we wanted kids.

00:34:14.000 We were planning on starting IVF. And so I just quit everything cold turkey at once.

00:34:19.000 Wow.

00:34:21.000 And so was it immediately hard?

00:34:23.000 Yes.

00:34:23.000 Or was it hard right away?

00:34:25.000 First day?

00:34:25.000 You're like, oh my god, where's my speed?

00:34:27.000 I would go to the gym, and I'd come back, and I'd put a nicotine pouch in.

00:34:30.000 I mean, I really like nicotine a lot.

00:34:32.000 Wow.

00:34:33.000 I used to be vaping on airplanes, which is...

00:34:35.000 Oh, my God.

00:34:35.000 So illegal.

00:34:36.000 It's so illegal.

00:34:37.000 Did you, like, do it in your hood? 0.94

00:34:38.000 I would bring a blanket with me on the plane, and I would sit underneath it like a psycho. 0.74

00:34:42.000 Thank you. 0.98

00:34:42.000 Like a psycho. 0.98

00:34:44.000 But they're like, you know, what are they going to do?

00:34:46.000 They can't be like, ma'am, you're not allowed to be under a blanket. 0.96

00:34:48.000 I mean, I looked like a mentally ill. 0.69

00:34:51.000 They're probably watching me.

00:34:53.000 Oh, no, no, because I would also hold it in as long as I could to get the biggest rush.

00:35:00.000 I would hold my breath.

00:35:04.000 I've never seen anybody as bad on it, which is why I can never try crack, because my life would be over in three days.

00:35:10.000 I would love crack.

00:35:11.000 It seems like most people do.

00:35:13.000 Yeah, they do.

00:35:14.000 It seems to be a problem.

00:35:18.000 Anybody's doing a little crack every now and then.

00:35:21.000 I mean, I couldn't handle the nicotine vapes.

00:35:23.000 So crack, probably not.

00:35:24.000 But again, yeah.

00:35:25.000 So when did you move to robots?

00:35:27.000 I moved to robots after the Juul became illegal.

00:35:33.000 And I couldn't get the mango.

00:35:34.000 So I was trying to get the same rip I could get off of Juul.

00:35:37.000 So you were being like a chemist.

00:35:39.000 You were going and mixing oils.

00:35:40.000 I always mix that.

00:35:43.000 And it was like stick.

00:35:44.000 And they would explode and be sticky everywhere.

00:35:46.000 And sometimes it would explode in your mouth and you'd get that like...

00:35:49.000 My friend Adam Curry uses a robot.

00:35:51.000 He's got that robot lunchbox type thing.

00:35:54.000 And he says it's better.

00:35:55.000 Because he says, first of all, you know what's in there.

00:35:58.000 Because if you're buying them, they're making them in Vietnam in some sweatshop somewhere. 0.99

00:36:02.000 Have you ever seen those factories where they test them all? 0.99

00:36:05.000 Some guy sucks on every one of them. 0.99

00:36:07.000 This one poor guy. 0.99

00:36:09.000 I would have loved that job.

00:36:12.000 I would leave my life behind.

00:36:14.000 Do you mean I can just rip vapes all day?

00:36:16.000 Yeah, but you have to live in Shanghai.

00:36:19.000 I was doing that job for free! 1.00

00:36:22.000 This dude is just sucking on these things. 0.99

00:36:24.000 I mean, I don't know where they make them. 0.99

00:36:25.000 He's an Asian fellow, but he just keeps hitting them. 1.00

00:36:27.000 He just has to check every one of them, make sure they blow smoke.

00:36:30.000 So he's grabbing them off the assembly line, putting them in these boxes.

00:36:34.000 So he's just...

00:36:36.000 Mainlining nicotine all day long, and whatever those oils are. 0.99

00:36:39.000 That's the thing, is I mainly felt like, if I get lung cancer, I will feel stupid.

00:36:44.000 You know, I'll be like, how could I possibly have thought I could get away with doing all this and not have something bad happen?

00:36:50.000 Well, is there better oils that those things are?

00:36:53.000 Like, when my friend Adam, you know who Adam Curry is?

00:36:55.000 The original podfather?

00:36:56.000 He's the guy who made the very first podcast.

00:36:58.000 I know who he is, yeah.

00:36:59.000 He's the best.

00:37:00.000 But he has those things, and he was trying to convince me that those things are okay.

00:37:04.000 And that the whole...

00:37:05.000 The whole thing about vapes being bad was just like the tobacco companies and a bunch of shenanigans.

00:37:12.000 I'm paraphrasing, I'm not giving you the full story.

00:37:15.000 But his argument was that those robot lunchbox type vapes, those big fat boys, at least you know what's in there.

00:37:22.000 You know where you're getting your oils.

00:37:24.000 You can get different quality and caliber of nicotine oils.

00:37:28.000 Yeah, I was, well, I mean, I believe, there's a lot of studies that show it is way better than cigarettes.

00:37:34.000 Yeah, but who's funded in those studies?

00:37:36.000 But it's also, the way that I've used cigarettes when I've had, like, I can still, when I go to Europe, again, not when I'm pregnant, but when I can, I can still go to Europe and smoke cigarettes only in Europe and come back and not smoke cigarettes.

00:37:47.000 And there's immediate downsides to cigarettes.

00:37:49.000 You gotta go outside.

00:37:50.000 You smell bad.

00:37:51.000 Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

00:37:53.000 I was smoking the vape, hitting the vape when I was in the hospital.

00:37:57.000 I had a near-death experience in 2020. Do you know about my shit? 1.00

00:38:01.000 I had a shit bag. 1.00

00:38:02.000 No. 0.99

00:38:03.000 What happened?

00:38:04.000 I know you're jacked, but you're not squeamish, right?

00:38:07.000 No. 0.56

00:38:07.000 Okay. 0.56

00:38:08.000 So I had a bowel perforation.

00:38:10.000 I had a really bad stomach pains. 0.99

00:38:13.000 I went to the hospital, and they told me I needed an ileostomy, which is a shit bag. 0.99

00:38:17.000 They take your small intestine, they pull it out of your stomach, and you have a bag. 0.94

00:38:20.000 So I had to have that surgery in November of 2020. And I was in the hospital, and I was ripping the vape, for sure.

00:38:28.000 I have my intestine hanging out of my body, and I'm ripping a vape.

00:38:32.000 I had it for about five weeks, and I didn't tell anybody.

00:38:35.000 I wrote about it in my first book, and that's how everybody kind of found out that that had happened to me.

00:38:40.000 And it was bad.

00:38:42.000 It was really, really rough.

00:38:43.000 And then I got it reversed.

00:38:45.000 That's good.

00:38:45.000 I got it reversed, but I had complications.

00:38:47.000 Oh, that's not good. 0.98

00:38:48.000 So I had complications where I was gushing blood on my ass because there was a loose staple. 0.99

00:38:52.000 Whoa. 0.99

00:38:53.000 And I needed a transfusion.

00:38:54.000 Guess which day that was that I had that bad thing happen.

00:38:57.000 What day?

00:38:57.000 January 6th.

00:38:58.000 Oh my god.

00:39:00.000 The January 6th.

00:39:03.000 Oh my god.

00:39:04.000 And I didn't talk publicly about this for a long time.

00:39:06.000 So whenever I was on the news, people would ask me, it comes up a lot.

00:39:10.000 And, like, I've been thinking about...

00:39:12.000 You.

00:39:12.000 Yes.

00:39:12.000 Yeah, you almost died.

00:39:13.000 You're bleeding out of your butt. 1.00

00:39:14.000 Literally, I will never forget this. 0.99

00:39:16.000 I've never talked about this before, actually, this specific thing.

00:39:19.000 I will never forget this.

00:39:21.000 On January 6th, I'm all doped up, right?

00:39:23.000 If you have stuff like that, they'll let you have a Dilaudid drip.

00:39:26.000 I'm, like, all doped up.

00:39:27.000 Whee! 1.00

00:39:27.000 Yeah, I tweeted or I posted on Facebook, tweeted, whatever, posted something along the lines of... 1.00

00:39:33.000 This is actually my personal Facebook.

00:39:34.000 It's shared too.

00:39:35.000 And it was like, the news is stressful, turning on a Ted Bundy documentary to relax, something like that.

00:39:41.000 And I looked at my personal Facebook and some dude who I knew from doing open mics in Baltimore had commented like, oh, are you stressed out about, you know, basically that you did this?

00:39:53.000 You know, because I work at Fox that I did.

00:39:56.000 And I'm sitting there on a bucket. 0.99

00:39:58.000 In a hospital with blood gushing out of my ass. 0.99

00:40:02.000 And this dude that I did open mics with eight years ago is trying to tell me that he's having a bad day. 0.99

00:40:09.000 Well, he's trying to shame you.

00:40:11.000 He's trying to blame you for this insurrection attempt, what he perceives to be.

00:40:16.000 Right, which again, I was in the hospital having, you know, I would say I had a worse January 6th than a lot of people.

00:40:23.000 I would say so.

00:40:24.000 Right?

00:40:25.000 I mean, I'm just reading that.

00:40:26.000 Ashley Babbitt probably had the worst.

00:40:27.000 The worst, yes.

00:40:28.000 Absolutely.

00:40:29.000 Absolutely. 0.99

00:40:30.000 But here's what's fucked. 0.99

00:40:31.000 It's exactly what we're talking about with comments. 0.98

00:40:33.000 Who's that guy? 0.94

00:40:34.000 That's a guy who's a failure.

00:40:35.000 Some dude, exactly.

00:40:36.000 Who you started out open mics, and he remembers, and now you're successful, and he's not. 0.99

00:40:40.000 And he's like, yeah, you caused the fucking collapse of democracy with your jokes. 0.99

00:40:45.000 I did. 1.00

00:40:45.000 From this bucket. 1.00

00:40:47.000 Yeah.

00:40:48.000 Where... 1.00

00:40:48.000 Bleeding out of your butt. 1.00

00:40:51.000 Literally the most humbling probably moment of my life where I was like, I am a fragile, fragile human being. 0.99

00:40:58.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:40:59.000 Some crazy lady next to me, too. 1.00

00:41:01.000 She was some lady. 1.00

00:41:02.000 She was like 90 years old.

00:41:03.000 And, you know, she thought that they want to give her potassium supplements.

00:41:07.000 So she was talking out loud about how they're trying to poison her with something.

00:41:09.000 I had her comment because we were all watching the January 6th.

00:41:12.000 It was on in the hospital.

00:41:13.000 We were all kind of watching it together.

00:41:15.000 And she was like, well, everybody loved Trump at first, and now they don't.

00:41:18.000 And she was like, everybody, those are all Russians at the Capitol. 0.94

00:41:21.000 And I was like, and I'm sitting there on my bucket, like a foot away from this woman. 0.76

00:41:27.000 And I'm like, I don't She's talking to me.

00:41:30.000 Oh, I would have been asking her questions.

00:41:31.000 I was!

00:41:32.000 I would have given up on any idea of a real conversation.

00:41:35.000 Of course.

00:41:35.000 This is not a real conversation.

00:41:36.000 You're not talking with this woman. 1.00

00:41:38.000 You can't get frustrated.

00:41:39.000 Those aren't Russians.

00:41:40.000 They're probably feds.

00:41:42.000 You don't even know.

00:41:43.000 Like, hey, lady. 0.96

00:41:45.000 I just remember being like, totally.

00:41:47.000 Yeah, you gotta ask her questions.

00:41:49.000 Yeah, totally.

00:41:51.000 What have you read that brought you to those conclusions?

00:41:53.000 I don't think she knew what she'd read, but she was speaking very- Brian Stelter told me!

00:41:57.000 She was speaking very matter-of-factly.

00:42:00.000 Oh yeah, people love to do that.

00:42:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:42:02.000 Well, also, probably, they're giving her potassium supplements probably because her fucking brain is shutting down. 1.00

00:42:07.000 She was really old. 1.00

00:42:08.000 She was really old.

00:42:09.000 And probably not doing so well health-wise.

00:42:11.000 They're giving her potassium supplements.

00:42:13.000 That's what they're trying to say.

00:42:14.000 Hey, your electrolyte balance is off.

00:42:16.000 Nothing's firing correctly.

00:42:17.000 You got real problems.

00:42:19.000 She's probably cramping up. 0.71

00:42:20.000 Yeah, the hospital was a bad...

00:42:22.000 I mean, it's always a bad...

00:42:23.000 It's like a bad hang.

00:42:24.000 It's horrible. 0.99

00:42:24.000 But if you could talk to someone really dumb, who's really into something politically, you could get kind of insight. 0.99

00:42:31.000 Well, when I was in the hospital for my first surgery, there was this lady who was farting really loud. 0.98

00:42:36.000 She was singing.

00:42:37.000 She was giving glory to God for her farts. 0.90

00:42:40.000 Oh, boy. 0.65

00:42:41.000 So I was turning up my forensic files as loud as I could, just cranking it up.

00:42:44.000 And she asked me if I could turn it down.

00:42:46.000 And I already had...

00:42:47.000 This is the day of my first...

00:42:48.000 I'd already been having the worst day of my life. 0.99

00:42:50.000 So I was like, how the fuck could you ask me to... 0.98

00:42:53.000 But then we wound up talking all night. 0.99

00:42:55.000 And I have her number on my phone still.

00:42:56.000 Because...

00:42:57.000 Because when you're in a hospital, and I was by myself because this was during COVID, and in New York, my husband was allowed, he could come visit for, I could have two visitors a day, maximum two people for maximum two hours and not past 6pm.

00:43:09.000 So I was scared.

00:43:10.000 I had this near-death experience and then complications on the reversal.

00:43:13.000 I was alone the entire time.

00:43:15.000 And you need, I mean, and again, I'm lucky because I lived through it, right?

00:43:21.000 There's people who died, obviously.

00:43:23.000 It was just so horrible and scary to do that by myself.

00:43:27.000 And also, hospitals, you need an advocate.

00:43:30.000 Because I was so doped up.

00:43:32.000 They weren't like, my sheets weren't being washed as much as they should have been.

00:43:34.000 I couldn't do, you know?

00:43:36.000 It's just like, you need someone.

00:43:37.000 Somebody needs to look out for you.

00:43:37.000 Hey.

00:43:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:43:40.000 Yeah, hospital workers like everybody else, some of them are really good and some of them suck. 0.63

00:43:44.000 And also it's just, it's weird to be alone like that.

00:43:47.000 Like there's no reason why you should have had to have been alone.

00:43:50.000 No.

00:43:50.000 If it's okay for someone to sit with you, that should be fine.

00:43:53.000 Why couldn't he stay?

00:43:54.000 Yeah.

00:43:54.000 I mean, I've had family members in the hospital before.

00:43:56.000 You just sit next to them and read a book and they feel comfortable.

00:43:59.000 Someone that they love is there.

00:44:01.000 Yeah.

00:44:01.000 It makes them feel better.

00:44:02.000 I had my insides hanging out of my body.

00:44:05.000 You should have somebody with you.

00:44:06.000 Two hours is nuts.

00:44:07.000 Why?

00:44:08.000 But again, you're already letting him in.

00:44:10.000 Does it get worse in the night that he can't stay past 6 p.m.?

00:44:14.000 Because also he had work.

00:44:16.000 But he still obviously came to see me every day.

00:44:18.000 But he couldn't come for very long and he had to leave.

00:44:21.000 And I was there by myself and it was so scary.

00:44:23.000 And there was no benefit to it.

00:44:25.000 It was just because of COVID. Oh, that's why.

00:44:30.000 How dumb is that? 0.97

00:44:31.000 But that doesn't make sense because if he had COVID, it'd already be in there. 1.00

00:44:34.000 Two fucking hours. 0.98

00:44:34.000 From the two hours he was in there. 0.98

00:44:35.000 There's plenty of time to give it to you.

00:44:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:38.000 God, that's so stupid. 1.00

00:44:39.000 They told me, I will never forget that, when I woke up from the first surgery, they came in and they told me that they had good news and that I tested negative for COVID. I was like, I don't fucking care. 1.00

00:44:51.000 My small intestine is hanging out of my stomach. 0.99

00:44:55.000 They don't even test for it anymore.

00:44:57.000 No, they don't.

00:44:58.000 Yeah, my daughter had a pretty loud cold or a cough, and they brought it to the hospital.

00:45:03.000 I was telling my wife, she's probably got the vid.

00:45:04.000 She's probably got the vid.

00:45:05.000 It's going around.

00:45:07.000 She goes, no, she's got a nasal infection. 1.00

00:45:09.000 And I said, did they test for COVID? She's like, no.

00:45:12.000 No.

00:45:12.000 I'm like, they didn't even test?

00:45:14.000 If this was two years ago, they would 100% immediately test you for COVID. But yet they're still talking about COVID. And they don't even test kids for it.

00:45:23.000 I tested myself.

00:45:24.000 I had it in July.

00:45:25.000 And I tested myself only because I'm pregnant.

00:45:27.000 And I wanted to know what to expect. 0.96

00:45:29.000 And I got really sick because my immune system's trash. 0.98

00:45:31.000 Again, because of this baby. 0.98

00:45:32.000 No nicotine.

00:45:33.000 Can't fight off illnesses.

00:45:35.000 Are you doing anything to supplement your vitamins?

00:45:36.000 No.

00:45:37.000 I'm doing just prenatals, probiotics, that's it.

00:45:40.000 Prenatals?

00:45:41.000 What is that?

00:45:41.000 A company sells prenatal vitamins?

00:45:43.000 A company sells prenatal vitamins.

00:45:44.000 That's it?

00:45:45.000 Yeah.

00:45:46.000 I mean, I eat food now a lot more than I used to.

00:45:49.000 I used to be chewing nicotine gum all day.

00:45:51.000 It doesn't make you hungry.

00:45:52.000 There's supposed to be some real benefits to nutritional supplementation where your baby is being born inside of you, or being created inside of you.

00:46:01.000 Maybe possibly going to a place and getting your blood work drawn, finding what nutrients you're deficient in.

00:46:07.000 It could really help you.

00:46:08.000 I should.

00:46:08.000 I should do stuff like that.

00:46:10.000 It can help you.

00:46:11.000 You know, I mean, it's all just simple, basic, natural stuff like vitamin C and vitamin D and vitamin K2 and all that stuff, but your body really extra needs that.

00:46:21.000 You're making a little human.

00:46:23.000 I know, and it's the weirdest thing.

00:46:24.000 I could only imagine.

00:46:26.000 I mean, again, I didn't used to be someone who ate...

00:46:29.000 I eat all day now.

00:46:31.000 You know, I didn't used to...

00:46:32.000 I mean, I eat food at night.

00:46:34.000 Like, I used to not eat all day.

00:46:35.000 You were on speed.

00:46:36.000 Of course.

00:46:38.000 But I was like, also, nicotine gum.

00:46:41.000 Always.

00:46:41.000 Nicotine gum.

00:46:42.000 My friends have quit cigarettes.

00:46:44.000 That's the first thing they say.

00:46:44.000 They get fat.

00:46:45.000 Yeah.

00:46:46.000 They immediately start gaining weight.

00:46:47.000 Because nicotine is really essentially kind of a speed, too.

00:46:50.000 It's a little bit of a stimulant.

00:46:52.000 And an appetite suppressant.

00:46:54.000 So I was, yes.

00:46:55.000 But I was honestly so used to the amphetamines.

00:46:57.000 So I was on Vyvanse, which is slow release.

00:46:59.000 Adderall, I don't like.

00:47:00.000 I was on Adderall briefly, and it was too much for me.

00:47:03.000 I was jittery.

00:47:04.000 I was anxious.

00:47:05.000 No, I won't do Adderall.

00:47:06.000 And the Vyvanse is slow release.

00:47:08.000 It doesn't make me feel...

00:47:10.000 So when I first went off of it, yes, I gained like 10 pounds in six weeks, right?

00:47:18.000 But now, I feel like I'm just as hungry as I was when I was on Adderall without the nicotine.

00:47:25.000 Because I got so used to it.

00:47:27.000 So I wasn't ever really getting this like...

00:47:30.000 Which Adderall I did get from...

00:47:33.000 How does that go?

00:47:34.000 Like your skull.

00:47:36.000 I didn't like that.

00:47:37.000 I didn't like it.

00:47:38.000 How long did you do it for?

00:47:39.000 So I did it because my insurance didn't cover Vyvanse back when I lived in D.C. So I was like, I need something, right?

00:47:45.000 Did you get street Adderall?

00:47:46.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:47:48.000 I'm not doing that.

00:47:50.000 Certainly not.

00:47:51.000 Only doctors.

00:47:52.000 My drug dealers are all actual doctors.

00:47:54.000 So...

00:47:57.000 I was like, okay, I'll do Adderall.

00:47:59.000 How much different can it be?

00:47:59.000 And it was, like, bad.

00:48:01.000 And if I ever forgot to take it, I was, like, walking in a wall.

00:48:03.000 Like, I couldn't.

00:48:04.000 Like, I was, like, sleeping.

00:48:05.000 I couldn't do it.

00:48:06.000 Wow.

00:48:06.000 I couldn't do it.

00:48:07.000 So then I just, like, found coupons somewhere.

00:48:09.000 My doctor helped me up.

00:48:10.000 I was like, I will sacrifice in other areas to afford the Vyvanse because I don't know how people take this.

00:48:15.000 Like, Adderall I couldn't do.

00:48:16.000 So you took it for how many months?

00:48:17.000 A couple months.

00:48:18.000 A couple months?

00:48:19.000 Yeah.

00:48:20.000 And...

00:48:21.000 What doses were they giving you?

00:48:22.000 Probably 30. Is that a lot, Jamie?

00:48:25.000 That's the one you're saying was a lot?

00:48:26.000 The other day it was 20s, so that's like...

00:48:29.000 Someone was talking about 20s?

00:48:30.000 Yeah.

00:48:31.000 I've taken Metadate.

00:48:32.000 I've taken, again, I was...

00:48:33.000 I'm one of those...

00:48:35.000 When they say, like, study the kids were put on Ritalin when they were 5, you're looking at one.

00:48:39.000 Like, this is me.

00:48:41.000 I mean, I was on...

00:48:43.000 And it's, you know, it is harder. 0.99

00:48:45.000 It is really a lot harder for me to live and do basic shit. 0.97

00:48:49.000 But it's been interesting. 0.98

00:48:51.000 That's Henry Rollins' story, too.

00:48:53.000 Yeah.

00:48:53.000 They put him on Ritalin when he was five years old as well.

00:48:56.000 And he said, like, he'd be just fucking... 0.98

00:48:58.000 All day at school, just gritting his teeth. 0.99

00:49:00.000 Yeah.

00:49:01.000 All his energy just buzzed up on speed.

00:49:03.000 See, I didn't feel like that.

00:49:06.000 You didn't feel like that?

00:49:06.000 Except the Adderall.

00:49:07.000 I can't.

00:49:09.000 That's not for me.

00:49:10.000 Adderall's not for me.

00:49:11.000 I won't do Adderall.

00:49:12.000 Well, I know a lot of people that really love it, and they're all kind of out of control.

00:49:17.000 They're just a little bit off the rails.

00:49:19.000 Oh, if I take Adderall, I remember I forgot my Vyvanse one time, and I took someone's Adderall.

00:49:25.000 This was a few years ago.

00:49:26.000 And immediately I'm texting everyone on my phone, like, am I going to be okay?

00:49:30.000 Tell me I'm okay.

00:49:31.000 Like are you mad?

00:49:32.000 That's not I like I I'm exhausted enough to be around as a person just naturally I don't need I don't need Adderall adding to the problem You know I felt like the world's collapsing around me.

00:49:42.000 That's not a good feeling.

00:49:43.000 It's just nuts how many doctors prescribe that stuff Mm-hmm and and how many people are on it?

00:49:50.000 What was it 39 million?

00:49:52.000 Is that what it was prescriptions last year?

00:49:55.000 Something kooky like that.

00:49:56.000 It's probably more than that, because I think that was actually 2021 now that I think about it.

00:50:00.000 So it's probably way more than that now.

00:50:03.000 Yeah, I mean, I was one of the first.

00:50:05.000 And I think I will go back, but then I'm like, maybe I should try just nicotine.

00:50:09.000 But a doctor probably wouldn't recommend that.

00:50:11.000 But what do they know?

00:50:12.000 Yeah, most doctors are not going to recommend nicotine ever.

00:50:15.000 Right.

00:50:16.000 I'm a better person because of nicotine.

00:50:18.000 And I know that's not popular.

00:50:21.000 That's not for the kids. 0.90

00:50:23.000 They're listening.

00:50:25.000 But I don't know.

00:50:26.000 Whenever I'm writing, sometimes I'll be like, I need to get a sentence perfect.

00:50:33.000 When I'm writing, I'll spend hours sometimes on a single sentence if I think it's a really important sentence, and I'll be like, I don't know, I don't know, and then I'll put a zen in, or put nicotine, and then I will get it.

00:50:43.000 Have you ever tried other nootropics?

00:50:46.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm just nicotine.

00:50:48.000 I mean, yes, but...

00:50:49.000 But have you ever tried other things like, you ever heard of NeuroGum?

00:50:54.000 You know what NeuroGum is?

00:50:55.000 No, not that.

00:50:55.000 We have some over here, in that blue bag right there.

00:50:59.000 NeuroGum is...

00:50:59.000 I don't have anything to do with this company, by the way.

00:51:01.000 Just something I love.

00:51:03.000 NeuroGum is gum that has theanine in it and caffeine and it enhances brain function.

00:51:08.000 Yeah, I've tried a theanine before.

00:51:10.000 And then there's some other stuff that you can get.

00:51:12.000 We sell something at Onnit called AlphaBrain.

00:51:16.000 And there's AlphaBrain and then AlphaBrain Black Label, which is like the more potent version.

00:51:20.000 That stuff's very legit.

00:51:22.000 Really helps memory.

00:51:24.000 Really helps...

00:51:24.000 We did...

00:51:26.000 Back in the day when we first put it out, a lot of people were like, this is fucking snake oil, so okay, let's find out. 0.96

00:51:31.000 Because there's studies, but there's no real, like, let's find out, let's get something definitive. 0.83

00:51:35.000 So we did two double-blind, placebo-controlled studies at the Boston Center for Memory, where they found increase in Increase in verbal memory, so your ability to recall words.

00:51:47.000 Increase in reaction time, increase in alpha flow state.

00:51:51.000 So there was a bunch of recognizable benefits at a dose that was lower than what I was taking.

00:51:58.000 It was like half what I was taking.

00:52:00.000 I think the dose was two pills and I'd do four.

00:52:03.000 And a lot of times when I'm getting crazy, I'll do six.

00:52:06.000 If I have something important, like if I have a UFC, UFCs require six.

00:52:10.000 Yeah.

00:52:10.000 It's six hours.

00:52:11.000 I'm sitting down there for six hours.

00:52:13.000 I bring snacks and I drink monsters and I have alpha brain.

00:52:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:52:20.000 And I fucking lock it in. 0.99

00:52:22.000 I am excited to own my body again and be able to take whatever I want. 0.98

00:52:27.000 But you should try some other stuff that doesn't...

00:52:30.000 There's some other stuff that will give you benefits but doesn't give you that weird feeling.

00:52:35.000 That accelerated feeling.

00:52:36.000 I don't like that.

00:52:37.000 Because I'm anxious enough as it is.

00:52:39.000 I'm actually a very anxious person.

00:52:41.000 I have a friend whose daughter was on ADHD medication, and she's getting off of it, and he started giving her alpha brain.

00:52:47.000 Okay.

00:52:48.000 And he said it helped her tremendously.

00:52:50.000 I actually never thought I could go off of it.

00:52:52.000 Like, I actually...

00:52:53.000 That was one of my concerns in terms of actually getting pregnant.

00:52:57.000 That it was going to be like that for the rest of your life.

00:52:58.000 That when I went off of it, I mean...

00:53:02.000 I was like, I'm in it now, baby.

00:53:05.000 But you seem totally fine, coherent.

00:53:08.000 You're talking very quickly.

00:53:11.000 You're not exhausted, right?

00:53:12.000 No, no, I'm not exhausted.

00:53:14.000 This is you.

00:53:15.000 Yeah.

00:53:15.000 This is actually you.

00:53:16.000 Right.

00:53:16.000 You want to go back to speed you.

00:53:18.000 I do.

00:53:20.000 That's kind of crazy that that's an option.

00:53:21.000 Because I could have walked out of here no matter what and I'd be like, I'd have been so much better if I would have been that.

00:53:25.000 That's so crazy.

00:53:27.000 Maybe you wouldn't.

00:53:28.000 Maybe we wouldn't connect as well.

00:53:29.000 I don't know.

00:53:30.000 Because it's so weird because I feel like I'm getting to meet myself.

00:53:34.000 But also it's not really myself because of the pregnancy.

00:53:38.000 Because this is pregnant me.

00:53:39.000 But then I kind of am curious to stay off of it a little longer when I'm not pregnant.

00:53:44.000 Just to see.

00:53:45.000 I think you should.

00:53:46.000 You seem like a wonderful person off of it.

00:53:48.000 So you're my primary care physician now.

00:53:50.000 I'm your doctor.

00:53:51.000 You seem like a wonderful person off of it.

00:53:53.000 I don't think you need it.

00:53:54.000 I think everybody would like to be a little bit more productive, especially if you're a creative type, if you're a writer, if you're doing things.

00:54:00.000 You'd like to be a little bit more productive.

00:54:02.000 But there's no biological free lunch.

00:54:07.000 And there's probably going to be some sort of long-term damage to a lifetime of stimulating your system. 0.99

00:54:14.000 I know a lot of people that did a lot of coke in the 1970s and they're all fucked up. 0.94

00:54:19.000 A lot of them died with neurological conditions. 0.99

00:54:23.000 Oh yeah, coke is...

00:54:24.000 I have no interest in cocaine. 0.99

00:54:27.000 I just wonder, it's the difference between doing coke five nights a week for a few hours a night versus a pill that you're taking every fucking day that jacks your system up. 0.98

00:54:39.000 Who knows if you're going to blow a fuse over time? 0.98

00:54:42.000 Like, who knows?

00:54:43.000 Oh, I've definitely considered that.

00:54:45.000 I've definitely considered that.

00:54:47.000 For me, I didn't function off of it, so I didn't try.

00:54:52.000 Now, what about, have you ever tried new vigil or pro-vigil?

00:54:55.000 I was on pro-vigil briefly, but I was...

00:54:58.000 I forget why I went on pro-vigil instead of everything else, but it was...

00:55:02.000 Oh, I was diagnosed briefly, I've never talked about this, with narcolepsy.

00:55:06.000 But I don't think I really have it.

00:55:09.000 Did you fall asleep?

00:55:10.000 I fell asleep a lot in the sleep study, but this was also in college.

00:55:13.000 And I smoked a lot of weed in college.

00:55:17.000 So I really think I might have just had a stone over.

00:55:23.000 Oh my god, that's hilarious.

00:55:26.000 And they said, you got no epilepsy, take some pills.

00:55:29.000 I've never talked about this and I've actually kind of just remembered it, but yeah.

00:55:35.000 And I couldn't stay awake for the sleep study, so they were like, she's got narcolepsy.

00:55:39.000 No one was ever like, hey, are you taking bong reps? 0.96

00:55:45.000 Why are you so sleepy, Kat?

00:55:47.000 Oh my god, that's so funny.

00:55:49.000 Which I think that must have been why, looking back...

00:55:53.000 The fact that I was taking that many bong rips. 0.75

00:55:56.000 And again, I graduated the top of my class.

00:55:58.000 I was very studious.

00:55:59.000 At college, I smoked a lot of weed.

00:56:02.000 Yeah, you were probably sleepy.

00:56:03.000 And I was sleepy.

00:56:06.000 That's so crazy.

00:56:07.000 I might have smoked the afternoon before.

00:56:10.000 How crazy is it that that's all the requirement they have to give you a drug?

00:56:14.000 She looks pretty sleepy right now.

00:56:16.000 You look pretty sleepy.

00:56:16.000 You must have narcoleps.

00:56:17.000 Not you're tired.

00:56:19.000 Not you're staying up all night.

00:56:20.000 Do you have a lot going on at your house?

00:56:22.000 Are you not getting any sleep?

00:56:23.000 No, you have narcolepsy.

00:56:26.000 Here, take a pill.

00:56:27.000 I would have told them the truth.

00:56:28.000 Nobody ever asked me. 1.00

00:56:29.000 They didn't ask because they don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:56:31.000 They just want to give you a pill. 1.00

00:56:32.000 They want to give you a pill.

00:56:33.000 Yeah, I get that.

00:56:34.000 The more they prescribe, the more money they make.

00:56:36.000 Let's go.

00:56:37.000 And they're like, you need Provigil.

00:56:40.000 And then I took it, and then I stopped taking it, and I went back to, I think, Metadate, which was another stimulant.

00:56:47.000 Wow.

00:56:48.000 ProVigil doesn't seem like a stimulant.

00:56:50.000 Does it seem like it for you?

00:56:51.000 No, it wasn't.

00:56:53.000 And then there's NuVigil.

00:56:54.000 NuVigil's another version of it.

00:56:55.000 I don't know what the difference is, but they both seem to work the same way.

00:56:58.000 I used to take it if I had a drive.

00:57:00.000 Like if I was in San Diego and I did a gig and I'm like, it's 11 o'clock, show's over, I could be home in my bed at 2 in the morning.

00:57:07.000 Yeah.

00:57:08.000 Latest, you know?

00:57:09.000 It's not really a three-hour drive unless there's traffic.

00:57:11.000 Right.

00:57:12.000 But you know how it is if you're driving in the road and it's late at night.

00:57:15.000 I don't drive.

00:57:16.000 Okay.

00:57:17.000 Anymore.

00:57:17.000 I miss it.

00:57:18.000 When I would be on the road and I was...

00:57:19.000 Is it because of narcolepsy?

00:57:20.000 No, it's...

00:57:23.000 No, it's because I haven't in 10 years, so I'm not sure I remember how.

00:57:27.000 My husband is like, you need to learn.

00:57:30.000 You know what I make this poor man do, or I have made him do the past five years?

00:57:34.000 So I have a cat that is, he's now 14 years old. 0.99

00:57:37.000 He is a dick. 0.99

00:57:40.000 He's got a lot of health issues, but I won't let him die. 1.00

00:57:42.000 Like, I won't let him die because he's like my best friend, blah, blah, blah.

00:57:45.000 Right.

00:57:45.000 But we can't find anyone to watch him.

00:57:47.000 We can't board him at the vet over Christmas.

00:57:49.000 So since I met my husband going on six years now, I've made him drive me and the cat home to my father's house.

00:57:58.000 Where's your father's house?

00:57:59.000 Detroit area.

00:57:59.000 Oh my god.

00:58:01.000 That's like 18 hours.

00:58:02.000 With the cat.

00:58:03.000 How far is that in the car?

00:58:04.000 It's like 12 hours.

00:58:04.000 Oh my god.

00:58:06.000 So it's like you drive all that time and when you get there, and then when you get there, you're in Detroit.

00:58:13.000 Oh my god.

00:58:14.000 So a lot of people are like, he's the lucky guy.

00:58:17.000 And it's like, no, he's not.

00:58:19.000 He's a saint.

00:58:21.000 It all works out.

00:58:23.000 I'm sure he's happy.

00:58:24.000 He is happy.

00:58:25.000 It's fine.

00:58:26.000 It's like, there's not that big a deal.

00:58:27.000 You're in a car for 18 hours.

00:58:28.000 Just get zen about it.

00:58:29.000 For a cat.

00:58:32.000 That's not even a nice cat.

00:58:34.000 Like, he bites.

00:58:35.000 Ooh, that's a problem.

00:58:36.000 He needs daily medication.

00:58:38.000 Can you, like, hire a friend to stay at your place?

00:58:40.000 Ugh.

00:58:40.000 This, that...

00:58:41.000 Sorry.

00:58:46.000 You did just make a very reasonable suggestion.

00:58:50.000 I mean...

00:58:50.000 It's like you know somebody who needs money.

00:58:53.000 For a normal cat, but this cat, he is feral.

00:58:58.000 Was he an actual feral cat?

00:58:59.000 Yeah, so I was dating my college boyfriend living out in LA, and I moved in with him non-consensually.

00:59:04.000 That's a whole other story.

00:59:05.000 I got into Columbia, couldn't afford it, so I decided to stay in LA and keep interning, waiting tables, doing comedy.

00:59:10.000 And we were fighting a lot, because we shouldn't have been together.

00:59:14.000 So he got me, he's a great friend of mine now, actually, but he brought me this cat as like a band-aid on the relationship that he just found in North Hollywood, basically.

00:59:21.000 Oh, wow.

00:59:22.000 That was like dying and sick, and this has been like my...

00:59:26.000 Feral cats are weird.

00:59:27.000 They never really get unferal.

00:59:29.000 No, they don't.

00:59:30.000 Feral dogs can eventually become dogs again.

00:59:32.000 I've seen it happen.

00:59:33.000 They usually have like a fear of people, but they eventually calm down, like people that have gotten like stray dogs off.

00:59:39.000 I had a stray dog off the street.

00:59:40.000 Yeah.

00:59:40.000 And I had a straight cat.

00:59:42.000 And that straight cat, I was the only one that could pick that motherfucker up. 1.00

00:59:45.000 I was the only one that could pet him. 0.99

00:59:47.000 Everybody else, he would come near him.

00:59:50.000 He'd hiss at you and take a swing at you and run away.

00:59:52.000 When my husband and I went on our honeymoon, I hired a vet to stay at the house.

00:59:57.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:59:58.000 And my sister I had her stay there too because he likes my sister, but he likes he finally likes my husband now and It took what like five years, but like he's like I'm driving He's like every year's like I'm driving because every year.

01:00:10.000 I'm like this will be the last year Yeah, because it's lived like 18 years old but this cat has had serious health problems for Four years requiring multiple daily medications that I have to administer.

01:00:24.000 Because not just anybody can come stay with the cat because they have to administer the medication, which is a hazardous activity for the average person.

01:00:31.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:00:31.000 Because you have to do the syringe in the mouth.

01:00:33.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:00:34.000 So I hold him. 1.00

01:00:34.000 He'll let me do it. 1.00

01:00:35.000 Oh, my God.

01:00:36.000 That's so crazy.

01:00:39.000 Why don't you just let him go? 0.99

01:00:41.000 He's probably miserable.

01:00:42.000 Because he's stable on the medication.

01:00:43.000 He's happy to see me when I'm home.

01:00:45.000 He misses me.

01:00:47.000 Okay, I get it.

01:00:49.000 Now talk to me.

01:00:50.000 The thing is, if I'm being honest with myself, even if that weren't the answer, I might still have a hard time.

01:00:55.000 Yeah, it's hard.

01:00:57.000 Losing a pet is very hard.

01:00:59.000 You're so connected to them.

01:01:00.000 They're like your baby forever.

01:01:02.000 Marshall's seven, but he's my baby.

01:01:05.000 Yeah.

01:01:05.000 He's a baby boy.

01:01:07.000 He'll always be a baby boy.

01:01:08.000 When I got this cat, I was a cashier at Boston Market.

01:01:12.000 My life has changed.

01:01:14.000 Yeah, and this cat's been with you the whole ride.

01:01:16.000 For everything.

01:01:17.000 For everything.

01:01:19.000 I get it.

01:01:20.000 I get it. 1.00

01:01:21.000 And he sucks. 1.00

01:01:22.000 I objectively like... 0.99

01:01:23.000 Nobody's like, he's here, you know?

01:01:26.000 Have you seen that chimp crazy thing on Netflix yet? 1.00

01:01:28.000 No.

01:01:29.000 Okay, it's about that lady that kept a chimp and the chimp ripped apart a friend. 0.62

01:01:33.000 You know that story?

01:01:35.000 No.

01:01:35.000 I've heard it's by the same people that did Tiger King, right?

01:01:39.000 I've heard it's fucking insane. 0.95

01:01:41.000 They say it's way better than Tiger King. 0.98

01:01:43.000 Okay, I should watch this.

01:01:44.000 I was really into Jane Goodall as a child.

01:01:46.000 I love Jane Goodall.

01:01:48.000 Jane Goodall's odd though. 1.00

01:01:49.000 Jane Goodall believes in Bigfoot.

01:01:53.000 I thought it was so cool when I was little how she was like, you know what?

01:01:57.000 I don't want to be part of your society.

01:01:59.000 I'm going to go live among the chimpanzees.

01:02:01.000 I was like, you can do that? 0.96

01:02:04.000 Yeah, hey, chip crazy. 0.92

01:02:06.000 This lady. 0.94

01:02:08.000 It's apparently, we can't really, can we play the trailer?

01:02:12.000 We'll get in trouble.

01:02:12.000 We can.

01:02:14.000 Okay.

01:02:15.000 So that is the chimp that... 0.99

01:02:16.000 Well, the thing about chimps is when they're little, you can kind of tell them what to do.

01:02:22.000 Because they're little.

01:02:22.000 They're babies.

01:02:23.000 They listen to you.

01:02:24.000 But then when they get to be a certain age, that's a grown adult alpha primate.

01:02:29.000 Yeah.

01:02:30.000 They're not listening to you. 1.00

01:02:30.000 They'll rip your fucking nose off. 1.00

01:02:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:02:32.000 They don't care. 1.00

01:02:34.000 And they also have this very strong sense of fairness.

01:02:38.000 Okay.

01:02:39.000 Like one of the chimps...

01:02:41.000 There's one, this guy that had a pet chimp.

01:02:43.000 They had it for many, many years, then it got older, and it was too difficult to control, and so they brought it to a chimp sanctuary. 1.00

01:02:49.000 And so he goes to visit the chimp on the day of the chimp's birthday and brought him a cake. 0.98

01:02:54.000 Like, they could still visit the chimp.

01:02:55.000 Okay.

01:02:55.000 They bring him a cake, but the other chimps are jealous that they don't get a cake, and someone had left the door open.

01:03:00.000 So the chimps come out, attack this guy, rip him to pieces... 1.00

01:03:04.000 Rip his hands off, rip his dick off, rip his face off. 1.00

01:03:08.000 They ripped his dick off? 1.00

01:03:08.000 They go for everything that makes you a person. 1.00

01:03:12.000 They tear your fingers off.

01:03:14.000 They tear your eyeballs out.

01:03:15.000 They're not even trying to kill you. 0.99

01:03:16.000 They're trying to maim you. 0.93

01:03:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:03:18.000 They do some vicious, evil, horrible shit. 1.00

01:03:21.000 That's a crime of passion. 1.00

01:03:23.000 That's not, yeah.

01:03:24.000 And they do it because they are mad at you.

01:03:27.000 It's a different thing than a wolf.

01:03:30.000 A wolf's not necessarily mad at you.

01:03:32.000 It wants to eat you.

01:03:33.000 A chimpanzee wants to tear you apart because it's mad at you.

01:03:36.000 Because you didn't bring them a cake. 1.00

01:03:38.000 That's fucking wild! 0.99

01:03:40.000 So you're dealing with a low-level intelligence, jealousy, pettiness, sense of fairness, and then all this alpha primate shit that comes with chimpanzees in general, and then you got them captive So they're basically prisoners. 0.99

01:03:55.000 So they're in this cage. 0.98

01:03:56.000 They have nothing fun all day. 0.99

01:03:58.000 And someone shows up with a keg like, where's my fucking keg? 1.00

01:04:01.000 Where's my fucking keg? 1.00

01:04:03.000 And then they just get out and tear this guy apart. 1.00

01:04:06.000 Yeah.

01:04:07.000 Horrible.

01:04:07.000 I feel like a lot of that was hidden from me as a child.

01:04:09.000 Although when I gave a presentation on Jane Goodall in school, there was like a box set of two VHS tapes.

01:04:14.000 And one was like the happy part.

01:04:16.000 And then like VHS 2 was like, I don't remember what was in it, but it was like something graphic and bad that happened to the chimps.

01:04:21.000 To Jane?

01:04:22.000 No, to the chimps.

01:04:23.000 I don't remember what it was.

01:04:25.000 Someone killed them?

01:04:25.000 I don't remember.

01:04:26.000 It might have been diseases.

01:04:27.000 I don't remember what it was.

01:04:28.000 All I remember is that the school called my mom because I brought in the wrong one.

01:04:32.000 Oh, wow.

01:04:33.000 The school called your mom because you brought in something that you didn't produce that was about chimpanzees?

01:04:38.000 But I shared it and it was disturbing.

01:04:41.000 I don't remember what it exactly was.

01:04:42.000 What are they going to learn?

01:04:44.000 Yeah.

01:04:44.000 Oh, God forbid the kids learn something that disturbs them.

01:04:47.000 I was in trouble all the time in school.

01:04:48.000 But how nutty is that thought?

01:04:50.000 Yeah.

01:04:50.000 It's a real true thing.

01:04:52.000 Don't you teach about the Holocaust? 0.99

01:04:53.000 Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? 0.97

01:04:54.000 Don't you teach about Pearl Harbor and Hiroshima? 0.99

01:04:57.000 Yeah.

01:04:57.000 Terrible things have happened.

01:04:59.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:04:59.000 Are you going to not teach about them because they're disturbing?

01:05:02.000 I agree.

01:05:03.000 That's so ridiculous. 0.97

01:05:04.000 I was also, you know, teachers always had enough. 0.93

01:05:05.000 I was always in trouble.

01:05:06.000 So it was like, oh, look at her.

01:05:08.000 There's a yearbook where there's a picture of the principal in the yearbook, and I'm in the picture.

01:05:13.000 Because I'm always in trouble.

01:05:16.000 Yeah, but isn't it interesting that you, now becoming a successful person and doing stand-up, you would see someone like that and go, oh, you're just in the wrong job.

01:05:27.000 Like someone's trying to put you in a job at an office somewhere, and that's really not for you.

01:05:32.000 I could never work in a normal office.

01:05:34.000 I never have.

01:05:35.000 I've worked as a waitress and I was a bad one.

01:05:38.000 Sure, and there's a lot of people out there that say I could never be a stand-up comedian.

01:05:41.000 Right, yeah.

01:05:42.000 I started doing stand-up because I needed to do stand-up. 0.99

01:05:45.000 I mean, back when I was in LA and my life was just going to shit. 0.98

01:05:49.000 The boyfriend who got me the cat broke up with me. 0.97

01:05:52.000 It was shocking. 0.99

01:05:53.000 And then I moved into this shitty apartment in a shitty neighborhood. 0.99

01:05:55.000 I was still waiting tables, doing comedy. 0.99

01:05:58.000 And then I lost...

01:05:59.000 I didn't have enough money for that apartment, so I had to move in with this bartender I was sort of kind of seeing from my California Pizza Kitchen job.

01:06:05.000 I was like, just because I need to live here doesn't mean we're together.

01:06:08.000 Together was a mess.

01:06:10.000 I had no car.

01:06:11.000 I was riding the bus.

01:06:12.000 I got scabies from the bus.

01:06:14.000 It was a dark time.

01:06:17.000 But I would get on stage and I would talk about it.

01:06:20.000 And that made me feel some sense of power over the things that were making me feel powerless.

01:06:25.000 And I was like, oh, I really like this. 0.99

01:06:27.000 I could make fun of this shit and people would be laughing. 0.99

01:06:30.000 I would talk about how broke I was and people would be laughing and I'd be like, oh, I created something out of something that I felt was going to destroy me. 0.99

01:06:39.000 Yes, and it's the classic story.

01:06:42.000 That's the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel story.

01:06:44.000 That's the Lenny Bruce story.

01:06:45.000 It's the classic story. 0.99

01:06:47.000 People going on stage and going, what the fuck is wrong with my life? 0.94

01:06:50.000 And then you're like, hey, I think I'm onto something. 0.97

01:06:53.000 Yeah, it really was a mess.

01:06:56.000 But then I kept being gravitated toward that.

01:06:59.000 I mean, even the shitbag thing, I mean, so Jim Norton, who I love dearly.

01:07:04.000 As do I. Yeah, yeah, he's, God, he's great.

01:07:07.000 He's the best.

01:07:08.000 I did his radio show after the first book came out talking about my shitbag, and he was like, you know, Kat, he's like, as a human being, I'm really sorry that happened to you, but as a comedian, I am jealous.

01:07:19.000 LAUGHTER And I do have a lot of material from that, you know, because a lot of people it doesn't happen to.

01:07:26.000 I'm sure.

01:07:27.000 I'm sure.

01:07:28.000 And I think it's so much better to have that.

01:07:30.000 People say it's like, oh, it's not like that.

01:07:32.000 It's so much better to have that than to let your trauma define you and try to lord it over other people.

01:07:40.000 Like, you can't say this thing because this thing happened to me.

01:07:43.000 Right.

01:07:44.000 No, let's not.

01:07:45.000 But you can do that.

01:07:46.000 Some people just don't have that same psychological makeup, which is my original point, is that there's a lot of people out there that shouldn't be doing regular jobs and just giving them Ritalin, I don't think it's the answer. 0.77

01:07:57.000 Like, if you're saying that you can go outside and you can play with bugs and lizards and shit and you're fascinated. 0.93

01:08:02.000 Loved it. 0.99

01:08:02.000 That's what normal people are supposed to be doing. 0.99

01:08:05.000 It's so abnormal to be sitting in a room with artificial light at a desk where you're not supposed to move, talking about shit that's not interesting to you. 0.97

01:08:12.000 That's normal for a kid to rebel against something like that. 0.98

01:08:15.000 I was a hellion, though.

01:08:16.000 I mean, I didn't want to do math, and I started chanting, like, no more math.

01:08:19.000 I got on the table.

01:08:20.000 I got in trouble for inciting a riot, is what they said, and my dad was like, she's six years old.

01:08:25.000 I was a disaster.

01:08:27.000 You were fun. 0.99

01:08:28.000 I was fucking fun. 0.99

01:08:29.000 That's the thing. 0.98

01:08:30.000 I was invited to everybody's birthday, but they wanted me there at least.

01:08:33.000 You know what I mean?

01:08:34.000 I'm still fun.

01:08:35.000 I'm a fun person.

01:08:36.000 It's not a bad thing.

01:08:37.000 It's just the problem is the environment of schools is terrible for kids. 0.99

01:08:40.000 Kids have a lot of fucking energy. 0.99

01:08:42.000 But I needed school. 1.00

01:08:43.000 I was valedictorian in my high school.

01:08:44.000 There were ten of us.

01:08:45.000 So it was everybody who had a 4.0.

01:08:47.000 But I needed to do well at school because I knew my parents couldn't afford to send me away to college.

01:08:51.000 So I'm kind of like, if I wouldn't have been on these drugs, would I have been able to do well enough at school?

01:08:57.000 Because I'm not getting a sports scholarship.

01:08:59.000 You know, would I have, or maybe I would have just gone straight to college?

01:09:01.000 I don't know.

01:09:02.000 But I had to study, I had to be good at school in order to have the success that I did.

01:09:08.000 At least academically.

01:09:10.000 But then, after I graduated from college, where I got a full scholarship, I obviously couldn't afford grad school, so then...

01:09:16.000 But listen, I'm hearing you talk right now and you're not on stimulants.

01:09:20.000 You're obviously very smart.

01:09:21.000 So why are you saying that you couldn't have gotten a 4.0 unless you're on stimulants?

01:09:25.000 I don't believe it.

01:09:26.000 I don't know.

01:09:27.000 I feel like I might not have gotten...

01:09:28.000 First of all, we don't know.

01:09:29.000 We don't know.

01:09:30.000 Because you've always been on them.

01:09:31.000 But you're not on them.

01:09:32.000 But you're not on them right now.

01:09:34.000 And right now you're very sharp.

01:09:35.000 You know what's funny is there's people in my real life who have known me for decades who have not had an in-person conversation with me off stimulus.

01:09:43.000 People I've known my whole life who, you know, still, and you're meeting me for the first time off stimulus.

01:09:49.000 But you're very sharp and you're very fast.

01:09:51.000 You don't seem like you're slowed down at all.

01:09:52.000 Yeah, I was worried that I would be.

01:09:54.000 Okay, but maybe that's just in your head.

01:09:56.000 Maybe.

01:09:56.000 I don't know.

01:09:57.000 And maybe you would have gotten a 4.0 either way because you're fucking smart. 0.98

01:10:01.000 And maybe all that does is give you speed and you keep going. 0.94

01:10:05.000 Maybe you would have been more introspective if you weren't on them.

01:10:09.000 Maybe you would look at things slightly differently. 1.00

01:10:11.000 Maybe you'd have a more balanced and nuanced take if you weren't on fucking diesel fuel. 0.99

01:10:16.000 In elementary school? 1.00

01:10:18.000 With a fire burning inside your head.

01:10:21.000 Yeah.

01:10:21.000 I never thought I'd even consider not taking them any day or every day.

01:10:25.000 I never thought I would consider that, especially even at the beginning of my pregnancy.

01:10:29.000 But that was also the first trimester, which I was exhausted because I was pregnant.

01:10:33.000 I was like, I can't do anything!

01:10:36.000 So when you went in, you were exhausted at first, and then you were on speed as well.

01:10:40.000 So I was off speed and pregnant and off nicotine all at the same time.

01:10:44.000 No, but when you found out that you were pregnant, it was because you weren't feeling well, right?

01:10:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:49.000 Right.

01:10:49.000 While you were on speed.

01:10:50.000 Yeah, I was still tired.

01:10:51.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:52.000 That's true.

01:10:52.000 So that's why I was like, I'm still...

01:10:54.000 I was like, I don't feel good.

01:10:55.000 I think you're just a fast-paced person, and I'm not necessarily sure you...

01:11:01.000 Look, I'm not a psychiatrist.

01:11:02.000 Don't listen to me.

01:11:03.000 No, of course not.

01:11:03.000 Don't listen to me.

01:11:03.000 Well, you are my primary care physician.

01:11:05.000 I'm going to write your name down.

01:11:07.000 As soon as you can.

01:11:09.000 At least to write, I probably will.

01:11:11.000 But that's what I'm saying.

01:11:12.000 Like, are you sure?

01:11:13.000 Yeah, so at least to write, I probably will.

01:11:14.000 But I'm actually...

01:11:15.000 But nicotine or speed?

01:11:16.000 I don't know.

01:11:17.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:11:18.000 The fact that I'm even...

01:11:19.000 Still, I think both.

01:11:21.000 Because I'll still have days where I really struggle.

01:11:22.000 And I forget things.

01:11:23.000 And I lose things.

01:11:25.000 And I'll have this whole plan with my husband. 0.98

01:11:27.000 And then I'm like, holy shit, this is the wrong day. 0.98

01:11:29.000 That's what most people do. 0.99

01:11:30.000 That's normal.

01:11:31.000 Not to this extent.

01:11:33.000 I bet it is.

01:11:34.000 It's normal to be a little scatterbrained.

01:11:36.000 I'm more than a little scatterbrained.

01:11:37.000 I know, but you're fine.

01:11:39.000 So if I was an ethical doctor...

01:11:43.000 This is water, right?

01:11:43.000 No, that's coffee.

01:11:44.000 This is water right here.

01:11:46.000 That's actually poor food.

01:11:47.000 There we go.

01:11:47.000 Great, great.

01:11:48.000 See?

01:11:48.000 I can't have coffee.

01:11:49.000 That's too much.

01:11:51.000 200 milligrams a day is all you can have?

01:11:52.000 I had, like, already an Americano today.

01:11:55.000 If I was an ethical doctor and you came into my office and there was no financial incentive for me to prescribe medication to you, I'd say, you're fine.

01:12:02.000 What's wrong with you, Kat?

01:12:04.000 Do you know how many people would, like, kill or take a medication to be in the state of mind that you're at all the time?

01:12:10.000 Like, the way you can talk and how coherent you are and how articulate you are and fast-paced, your thinking's very quick.

01:12:16.000 You don't need anything.

01:12:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:18.000 This is all in your head, but you can't write bullshit. 1.00

01:12:21.000 That's not true. 1.00

01:12:21.000 It's just different because you're not high. 1.00

01:12:24.000 You're not speeded up fucking smashing keys. 0.97

01:12:28.000 You still can write. 0.99

01:12:30.000 You don't need a medication because writing is complicated.

01:12:35.000 Yeah.

01:12:36.000 Right?

01:12:36.000 I'm not saying you shouldn't take it.

01:12:38.000 I'm not saying you shouldn't have the ability to, as long as you're not fucking up your baby after all that breastfeeding stuff's done. 0.97

01:12:43.000 But the point is, I think this whole I need it stuff is nonsense. 0.57

01:12:48.000 Well, I've started to think that I at least might not go back to doing it every single day.

01:12:52.000 Because I was every, every, every day, truly, except if I was in the hospital.

01:12:57.000 Well, wouldn't it be nice to be able to go on a vacation and not have to take speed?

01:13:00.000 Yeah.

01:13:01.000 It sucks to take speed at the beach.

01:13:02.000 Yeah.

01:13:07.000 It's not fun to be at the pool.

01:13:10.000 I get how it's been good for you.

01:13:11.000 It's been good to you.

01:13:12.000 You've reaped its benefits.

01:13:15.000 But I don't think you need it.

01:13:17.000 I mean, for you to be here right now, sober, in the state you're at, you're as sharp as most people that I talk to.

01:13:24.000 You're on the ball.

01:13:24.000 Yeah.

01:13:25.000 But I'm going to be like, would I have been better if I was not...

01:13:29.000 Right, but that's crazy talk.

01:13:30.000 That's how people stay on heroin.

01:13:32.000 That's my whole life.

01:13:33.000 I was at my first communion on amphetamines.

01:13:36.000 Oh my god, that's so nuts.

01:13:39.000 Think about all the childhood events.

01:13:41.000 Maybe this baby would be an awesome reset for that.

01:13:43.000 Maybe at the end of the nine months.

01:13:45.000 You'll have a completely different perspective.

01:13:47.000 You've been off of it so long, and you realize, like, wow, it's actually better.

01:13:50.000 And I think about nicotine every day.

01:13:52.000 I don't think about the medication every day.

01:13:53.000 So I think I'll definitely go back to nicotine.

01:13:55.000 Maybe I'll use it sometimes.

01:13:57.000 Maybe not every day.

01:13:58.000 I'm definitely not...

01:13:58.000 That's what you say next day.

01:13:59.000 You're two-fisted.

01:14:01.000 I know.

01:14:02.000 We had the big lunch boxes, strawberry, lemonade! 0.99

01:14:06.000 It was great, mixing the flavors and all that other shit. 0.92

01:14:08.000 So what is in the oil, what is the best, like, let's find, I should probably call Adam and ask him, but what is the best oil for vapes that's not as bad for you? 0.89

01:14:17.000 I don't remember.

01:14:18.000 How would we Google this?

01:14:19.000 I don't remember it.

01:14:20.000 How would we Google this?

01:14:21.000 Is there a difference in the harm that certain vape chemicals can do, and is there a healthy version?

01:14:29.000 So there is, and this is, and I know there's one that's really bad, and that was when kids were getting their lungs exploded or whatever.

01:14:36.000 Well, there's two kids died, right?

01:14:38.000 So with that, I did research on this.

01:14:40.000 I spoke to somebody who, for an article, I read an article from National Review about this, who said that she would be surprised if that chemical was in the nicotine vapes at all, because it's pretty much only necessary with THC, and that it was only in black market THC vapes,

01:14:57.000 basically.

01:14:58.000 That's what I heard.

01:14:58.000 Yeah.

01:14:59.000 Two different people had gotten some really tainted THC vapes and died.

01:15:05.000 Yeah, which vaping THC in general is just like, that's not...

01:15:08.000 That's my most boomer opinion that I have is the weed's too strong.

01:15:14.000 It certainly can be.

01:15:15.000 It's so strong.

01:15:17.000 When people are like, hey, you want to hit...

01:15:18.000 No, because I don't know what's in that.

01:15:20.000 The vape is like, who made that?

01:15:21.000 Yeah.

01:15:22.000 Who put that together?

01:15:23.000 Yeah.

01:15:23.000 Who's the chemist?

01:15:24.000 What bathtub does this get fucking cooked up in? 0.99

01:15:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:15:27.000 At least if you're getting the actual cannabis plant. 0.99

01:15:30.000 You know what it is.

01:15:31.000 Right.

01:15:32.000 It's strong or it's not strong.

01:15:33.000 You figure that out, you're going to be fine.

01:15:36.000 You're vaping. 1.00

01:15:37.000 Where the fuck that's coming from? 0.99

01:15:39.000 No. 0.99

01:15:39.000 A few years ago, I was out with my friend and I hid his weed pen and I couldn't feel my legs. 0.99

01:15:46.000 I was like, I mentally felt not high, which is like the opposite I was going.

01:15:51.000 I mean, I wanted to feel my legs and I wanted to be high.

01:15:54.000 And I'm like, okay.

01:15:55.000 I'm like, I don't know what to do.

01:15:57.000 I have to leave.

01:15:58.000 And I couldn't feel my legs.

01:16:00.000 And then I got back to my apartment and then I felt completely fine.

01:16:02.000 And I'm like, what?

01:16:03.000 So it was just temporary paralysis?

01:16:05.000 Yeah.

01:16:05.000 And I'm like, I have no idea what was in that.

01:16:08.000 And I've never, ever, ever hit a vape weed pen ever again.

01:16:11.000 And I don't think I will.

01:16:12.000 Yeah, because you don't want to be the person that winds up in the news.

01:16:14.000 I thought you were going to say you don't want to be the person that has to go home. 0.99

01:16:17.000 No, you don't want to be the person that winds up in the news because your legs stop working because you smoked some fucking gas station vape pen. 1.00

01:16:22.000 And I have to tell everyone that I smoked a fucking... 1.00

01:16:24.000 Well, how'd you lose your legs? 0.99

01:16:28.000 You know, there's people in the amputation unit that have been to war or whatever.

01:16:32.000 I went to Quickie Mart and I got a vape pen.

01:16:35.000 I ripped a bootleg weed vape pen.

01:16:37.000 I was trying to get high.

01:16:38.000 Is there any benefit to the kind of oils that they use in the homemade robot type vapes?

01:16:44.000 Googling it just brings up a bunch of websites that are trying to sell me stuff.

01:16:47.000 But what I gather from those is that they're all saying you want something that doesn't have nicotine in it, which is a little strange.

01:16:52.000 That's what we want.

01:16:54.000 Then you want to add pharmaceutical grade nicotine.

01:16:56.000 So that might be where the problems come in.

01:16:58.000 And cheap nicotine.

01:17:00.000 Right.

01:17:01.000 Or something like that.

01:17:02.000 But what is that word?

01:17:03.000 Dicetyl?

01:17:04.000 Dicetyl-free?

01:17:05.000 I saw that a few places.

01:17:06.000 Dicetyl?

01:17:07.000 I don't know.

01:17:08.000 Dicetyl.

01:17:08.000 Am I saying it right?

01:17:09.000 Vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol.

01:17:12.000 Okay.

01:17:12.000 Go back up again.

01:17:14.000 Go back up again.

01:17:14.000 It says the safest e-juice ratio is one that has less propylene glycol.

01:17:19.000 If your vaporizer allows it, try to use 100% vegetable glycerin e-juice.

01:17:24.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:17:26.000 What is that?

01:17:26.000 These are not from any great sources.

01:17:29.000 Right, but when they're saying vegetable oil, are we talking about, like, what kind of vegetables?

01:17:34.000 Yeah.

01:17:34.000 What's in that?

01:17:35.000 Is it seed oils?

01:17:36.000 Yeah, everything says PG or VG mix, and that's what that means is the vegetable glycerin.

01:17:41.000 Right, but what is that vegetable glycerin made out of?

01:17:43.000 Is that made out of, like, canola oil?

01:17:45.000 Like, what is it made out of?

01:17:46.000 I don't...

01:17:47.000 Because I know someone was making it with MCT oil and they were trying to tell me this is the safe version.

01:17:51.000 Some dude with a robot.

01:17:52.000 And I love...

01:17:53.000 I mean, listen...

01:17:53.000 I've got MCT oil in my vapes.

01:17:55.000 It's fucking totally healthy. 0.87

01:17:57.000 I mean, I don't think it's totally healthy or I would be doing it. 0.98

01:18:00.000 I mean, if I found out I was dying, I'd be going to vape immediately.

01:18:03.000 Here it says, VG is generally recognized as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

01:18:09.000 But hold on a second.

01:18:10.000 As VG is vegetable-based, there's a much lower toxicity than PG, so that's propylene glycol, or nicotine, so it's safe to use in e-liquids for vaping.

01:18:19.000 Of course, though, like many things, there's a potential for allergic reaction.

01:18:22.000 But what's it made out of?

01:18:23.000 Vegetable glycerin.

01:18:25.000 What is vegetable glycerin made out of?

01:18:27.000 Google that.

01:18:28.000 I just want to know what they're using.

01:18:30.000 Like, what plants?

01:18:32.000 What vegetables?

01:18:34.000 Clear odor, sweet-tating liquid made from the vegetable oil, such as palm, soy, or coconut.

01:18:38.000 Okay, palm, terrible for you.

01:18:40.000 Soy, terrible for you.

01:18:41.000 Coconut, not bad.

01:18:43.000 Coconut's good for you. 0.99

01:18:44.000 So, it's like, dependent upon what kind of oil you get, you're spraying the inside of your lungs with some shit that's generally not good for consumption. 0.99

01:18:52.000 Like, palm oil is supposed to be bad for consumption. 0.99

01:18:56.000 Canola oil is bad for consumption.

01:18:58.000 It causes inflammation.

01:19:01.000 Vegetable glycerin is made by heating triglyceride-rich vegetable fats under pressure or with a strong alkali such as lye. 0.99

01:19:08.000 That's the shit that they use to get rid of bodies. 1.00

01:19:11.000 Isn't that how you liquefy? 1.00

01:19:13.000 Yeah, lye is nasty.

01:19:15.000 It's like how people would straighten their hair out too.

01:19:17.000 That stuff was on yesterday, the castor.

01:19:21.000 Was it beaver stacks or something?

01:19:23.000 Right, right, right.

01:19:23.000 It's the flavoring in cigarettes I was finding.

01:19:25.000 Oh my God!

01:19:26.000 I was trying to figure out which cigarettes use it, but...

01:19:28.000 Chris Harris was telling us that he drank this alcohol, that they didn't tell him what was in it.

01:19:32.000 It was a shot, and inside the shot was essence of beaver.

01:19:37.000 Okay. 0.72

01:19:37.000 And it turns out it's a secretion from the beaver's anal glands. 0.72

01:19:40.000 Ew! 0.98

01:19:40.000 And it was in his mouth for 10 days. 0.98

01:19:43.000 He couldn't get the taste of it out of his mouth.

01:19:44.000 But why do you drink that?

01:19:46.000 He didn't know what it was.

01:19:47.000 Well, of course.

01:19:47.000 He was on that show Top Gear.

01:19:48.000 Okay.

01:19:49.000 And he's traveling in some other country, look, this is one of the local things, and he drank this, and...

01:19:54.000 It stayed in his mouth for 10 days.

01:19:56.000 If there was like benefits, I'd get it.

01:19:58.000 There's no benefits.

01:19:59.000 It's a flavor that they add in liquor.

01:20:03.000 Cinnamon or vanilla hints.

01:20:05.000 But we saw it with the vodka, right?

01:20:06.000 They had beaver castor vodka.

01:20:08.000 So what is MCT oil in vapes?

01:20:13.000 Google MCT oil in vapes.

01:20:15.000 See if that's legit.

01:20:16.000 Because this guy was trying to say, which is essentially like coconut oils and stuff like that.

01:20:19.000 MCT medium chain triglyceride.

01:20:20.000 Yes.

01:20:21.000 So this thing says it's trying to find any heating triglyceride rich vegetable fats.

01:20:25.000 Right.

01:20:26.000 But see if someone does it, if they're trying to promote it as a healthy alternative to normal vape oils.

01:20:34.000 MCT oil in...

01:20:39.000 The very first thing that came up was from Weedmaps that says, occasionally vaping MCT may or may not be harmful to the lungs.

01:20:45.000 That's so helpful!

01:20:48.000 Just keep it on the vague side, kids.

01:20:51.000 But I feel like also people who say that it's fine, I mean, they're probably really addicted to it, which I get.

01:20:55.000 Because I've been there.

01:20:56.000 I've been there.

01:20:57.000 It's the best.

01:20:58.000 If I was dying, Aerosolized and inhaled MCT oil can be harmful to respiratory health.

01:21:06.000 Michigan's banning them. 1.00

01:21:08.000 But, okay, when you hear Michigan's banning them, I go, okay, but did another industry tell Michigan that they're bad so they can sell their fucking bullshit oil vapes? 1.00

01:21:16.000 Like, there's so much fuckery going on with all this stuff, especially these unregulated things. 1.00

01:21:21.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:21:22.000 Here it goes.

01:21:23.000 It can cause lipid pneumonia.

01:21:25.000 Oh boy, that's not good.

01:21:27.000 Oils.

01:21:28.000 When heated and inhaled, oils can cause lipid pneumonia, a serious lung condition.

01:21:34.000 Yeah, I knew a family in California and their kid got pneumonia.

01:21:37.000 He was vaping every day and he wound up dying.

01:21:40.000 Really?

01:21:41.000 He was like 19 years old.

01:21:42.000 Apparently he was just vaping constantly.

01:21:44.000 Six years ago, the current articles show that MCT oil combined with CBD has increased health benefits.

01:21:50.000 Yeah.

01:21:51.000 It's very tough.

01:21:53.000 It's so hard to know what's true and what's not true. 0.98

01:21:57.000 There's just so much fuckery. 0.98

01:21:59.000 Yeah, you have no idea. 0.98

01:22:01.000 It's so hard to know.

01:22:02.000 And I actually was a person who trusted doctors more than COVID happened, and it's like, I don't know how you do.

01:22:10.000 I know.

01:22:11.000 I don't know how you do.

01:22:12.000 I mean, I know it was years.

01:22:13.000 I'm still not over it.

01:22:15.000 Well, there's just too many doctors that have a financial interest in following whatever the company line is.

01:22:21.000 And with certain things, they're not allowed to prescribe medications because those medications aren't as profitable as the ones that they're promoted to prescribe.

01:22:28.000 I wanted to bring this up since we don't know.

01:22:30.000 I was going to bring it up earlier while you were talking about it.

01:22:32.000 This says that nicotine replacement therapy could be okay during pregnancy.

01:22:36.000 Well, it's safer.

01:22:37.000 But it's safer than smoking.

01:22:40.000 There's no way I'm ripping darts while I'm pregnant.

01:22:42.000 I think that's for people who are going to be ripping.

01:22:45.000 They're like, listen, rather than smoking cigs, have nicotine gum.

01:22:49.000 That's such a dude thing to say because dudes can't have kids.

01:22:52.000 Jamie's like, so he says it's fine.

01:22:54.000 And my husband still vapes.

01:22:57.000 So he still vapes.

01:22:59.000 But I'm like, I can rub that in his face a little bit that I quit.

01:23:04.000 Definitely.

01:23:04.000 My friend Duncan, here's a good story.

01:23:06.000 My friend Duncan has diabetes.

01:23:08.000 He has the kind you get it from diet.

01:23:09.000 He's a thin guy. 0.99

01:23:10.000 And he was feeling like shit, found out he has diabetes. 1.00

01:23:13.000 Like, wow, this is fucking crazy. 1.00

01:23:15.000 So cut sugar out of his life. 0.99

01:23:17.000 All of a sudden, diabetes goes away.

01:23:19.000 Feels incredible.

01:23:20.000 It's like, I can't believe how much energy I had.

01:23:22.000 Oh my god, I was poisoning myself all day.

01:23:24.000 And then, you know, he has this, like, glucose monitor thing, and the glucose monitor thing is kind of, his glucose is too high, and he's trying to figure out what it is.

01:23:32.000 It's vaping, because all those flavored vapes have sugar in them. 1.00

01:23:38.000 So every time he's taking a vape off this gas station bullshit... 0.99

01:23:41.000 He's got diabetes from vaping? 0.99

01:23:43.000 He's probably got diabetes from vaping.

01:23:46.000 That's crazy.

01:23:47.000 Sugar as well, but he's vaping all day.

01:23:51.000 So he's pumping the sugar into his system.

01:23:52.000 And so he realized after he cut all the sugar out, that he was still, his sugar levels would go crazy.

01:23:58.000 And it was because of vaping.

01:23:59.000 So as soon as he stopped that, it went...

01:24:01.000 All normalized.

01:24:03.000 Well, sugar is crazy. 1.00

01:24:04.000 Crazy.

01:24:05.000 I've gotten into sugar a little bit, which sounds insane to say, but I never, like, now that I'm pregnant, it's like, what dopamine is there available for you?

01:24:13.000 Not that much, so I'll get dessert, but I feel like, I got a pumpkin spice Frappuccino last weekend, okay?

01:24:20.000 The smallest one available.

01:24:22.000 It's 12 ounces.

01:24:23.000 I drank this thing, I immediately, I was like, we have to go home, I don't feel good, and I laid on the couch and I slept for three hours.

01:24:28.000 Right, if you're not used to it.

01:24:29.000 That's a coffee?

01:24:30.000 Mm-hmm.

01:24:31.000 I know.

01:24:32.000 I was so sick.

01:24:33.000 And I've gotten into...

01:24:34.000 I was last night, I was like, should I get dessert?

01:24:37.000 And he's like, well, every time you do, and then you're really sick, so maybe...

01:24:40.000 Have you seen the blizzard?

01:24:42.000 When that guy takes the blizzard from Dunkin' Donuts and he puts it next to a clear cup to show you how much...

01:24:46.000 Oh, the donuts?

01:24:46.000 No, it's that drink, that frozen coffee drink.

01:24:49.000 Yeah.

01:24:49.000 And that frozen coffee drink has so much sugar.

01:24:52.000 And he puts the clear cup next to it so you can see how much sugar...

01:24:55.000 It's 183 grams of sugar.

01:24:59.000 Is that right?

01:25:00.000 I think that's right.

01:25:00.000 There's a lot.

01:25:01.000 It was Dunkin' Donuts, wasn't it?

01:25:02.000 Yeah.

01:25:02.000 Yeah, Dunkin' Donuts Blizzard.

01:25:04.000 That's what it is.

01:25:05.000 Or Blizzard's from Dairy Queen.

01:25:06.000 Oh.

01:25:07.000 It's called...

01:25:07.000 It is?

01:25:07.000 What's the Dunkin' Donuts one called?

01:25:09.000 I don't know.

01:25:09.000 Some giant...

01:25:10.000 It's like a frozen...

01:25:10.000 Frozen pumpkin swirl thing.

01:25:12.000 It has videos on the screen.

01:25:13.000 Okay.

01:25:13.000 So this is it.

01:25:15.000 So this...

01:25:16.000 It says Dunkin' Donuts.

01:25:18.000 Doesn't say what the thing is, but it's some kind of a sugary coffee type beverage. 0.68

01:25:21.000 That's so gross.

01:25:24.000 Sorry, Derrick Green, for tainting the name of your wonderful blizzard.

01:25:28.000 Which I'm sure has no sugar in it.

01:25:29.000 That guy's showing you all the sugar that's in that thing.

01:25:32.000 That's so insane to take that much sugar in a drink.

01:25:35.000 But people do it all the time.

01:25:37.000 Look at that stack of sugar cubes.

01:25:39.000 That is so bananas.

01:25:41.000 That's 181. So it's 34 teaspoons or 51.5 cubes of sugar.

01:25:47.000 Holy Jesus.

01:25:48.000 That's a giant drink, though, too, yeah.

01:25:50.000 Yeah, but it's also got ice in it.

01:25:52.000 Yeah.

01:25:52.000 If you get rid of all that ice, how much of it is all sugar?

01:25:55.000 It's like you're just drinking sugar and ice.

01:25:57.000 And you see people walking around with those.

01:25:59.000 And I'm like, where are you going?

01:26:01.000 To the hospital for diabetes.

01:26:03.000 Because I couldn't be going anywhere after having that.

01:26:06.000 So like, are you drinking this?

01:26:07.000 It's afternoon right now.

01:26:08.000 Well, people get used to the sugar, and then the sugar doesn't make them crash as much.

01:26:13.000 Yeah.

01:26:13.000 Because I don't do that, but if I do, like if I have like a milkshake, I'll be like, oh...

01:26:17.000 Yeah.

01:26:18.000 Like, it hits me, because I don't eat it all the time.

01:26:20.000 Yeah.

01:26:20.000 But some people eat it all day long, and their body just gets accustomed to it, just like alcoholics.

01:26:25.000 Alcoholics, yes.

01:26:25.000 It's very similar, honestly.

01:26:27.000 Very, very similar.

01:26:28.000 It's a real addiction.

01:26:30.000 Sugar's a real addiction.

01:26:31.000 Yeah.

01:26:31.000 And it's everywhere.

01:26:32.000 It's in everything.

01:26:33.000 It's in so many different foods that it doesn't need to be in, but it makes them more addictive.

01:26:37.000 I know, and I think it's so interesting with all the things I'm advised to do.

01:26:40.000 They don't really say, like, oh, you shouldn't have a bunch of...

01:26:42.000 I'm sure that's bad.

01:26:43.000 I'm sure it's bad.

01:26:44.000 I'm sure it's terrible to have a bunch of desserts.

01:26:46.000 Yeah, you should be eating organic food.

01:26:47.000 Eating healthy food.

01:26:47.000 You should be eating really healthy, essential fatty acids, eating lots of salmon and things along those lines.

01:26:53.000 But, yeah, nobody cares about that.

01:26:56.000 Nobody talks to you about sugar.

01:26:58.000 No, they don't.

01:26:58.000 They're like, don't have sushi, don't have turkey, don't have...

01:27:03.000 Oh, by the way, that's a problem.

01:27:05.000 The cat.

01:27:05.000 The cat you have.

01:27:06.000 I had him tested for toxoplasmosis.

01:27:08.000 He doesn't have it?

01:27:08.000 He doesn't have it.

01:27:09.000 Oh, that's crazy.

01:27:11.000 I was so, like, I mean, I thought for sure if he had it, I would have it.

01:27:15.000 Right.

01:27:15.000 Because he sleeps under my chin every night.

01:27:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:27:17.000 But I actually, we also have a very expensive litter box.

01:27:19.000 We have a robot.

01:27:21.000 One of those?

01:27:22.000 No, it's called the Litter Robot.

01:27:24.000 I've seen those.

01:27:25.000 Do you know that it not only self-cleans, it sends data to my phone in real time.

01:27:29.000 So every time he uses the litter box, I get an alert on my phone letting me know how much he weighs.

01:27:37.000 Yeah, because I used to have to weigh him myself to monitor.

01:27:40.000 Because basically, if he gets overweight, he gets diabetes, he's going down.

01:27:45.000 He has cardiomyopathy.

01:27:47.000 He has, which is a heart thing.

01:27:50.000 If I was your husband, I'd be sneaking food.

01:27:52.000 I'd be giving that cat ice cream.

01:27:54.000 He's so patient.

01:27:55.000 I'm like, I don't know how.

01:27:56.000 He's like, the cat's not even a nice cat.

01:27:58.000 I'm like, I know, but...

01:28:00.000 He has herpes too, the cat.

01:28:02.000 Oh boy!

01:28:04.000 It's a respiratory thing in cats.

01:28:09.000 I was confused at first too.

01:28:11.000 The vet called me and told me and I was like, but he's a virgin.

01:28:14.000 And they were like, okay.

01:28:16.000 It's like they pick it up as kittens and it causes them to get a cold that comes and goes.

01:28:21.000 So he takes a medication called Viralis.

01:28:24.000 He takes that one also.

01:28:25.000 How often does he take that?

01:28:26.000 Every day he makes it into his food.

01:28:27.000 He has a probiotic mixed into his food.

01:28:29.000 If you didn't give it to them, what would happen?

01:28:31.000 Every now and then you get a blister?

01:28:32.000 No, it's not.

01:28:33.000 It's respiratory.

01:28:34.000 He sneezes and coughs.

01:28:35.000 How bad?

01:28:36.000 Enough where it was like on the pillow in the morning, like gross.

01:28:39.000 Oh! 0.60

01:28:39.000 Yeah, gross. 0.60

01:28:40.000 Gross. 0.78

01:28:40.000 It was just, I was like, oh, it's just herpes. 0.78

01:28:44.000 But then he also, he takes steroids every day too.

01:28:46.000 Oh boy.

01:28:47.000 And a heart medication.

01:28:50.000 Oh boy.

01:28:51.000 Yeah.

01:28:51.000 No.

01:28:52.000 That's a lot.

01:28:53.000 I know.

01:28:53.000 Listen, but I would keep him on...

01:28:56.000 The thing is, if you could do a ventilator...

01:28:59.000 Would you clone him? 1.00

01:29:00.000 The thing is, no, because he sucks. 1.00

01:29:02.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:29:03.000 But would he suck if you had him from a baby? 0.99

01:29:06.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:29:07.000 Maybe it wouldn't suck.

01:29:08.000 Maybe it wouldn't suck if you had him as a kitten.

01:29:10.000 If he didn't have all the trauma.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, I guarantee you.

01:29:13.000 There's a switch that goes in those feral cats that never really shuts off.

01:29:16.000 No.

01:29:17.000 It's weird.

01:29:17.000 It's a weird switch.

01:29:19.000 Because it exists in certain animals.

01:29:22.000 When they go feral, they just never come back.

01:29:25.000 There's just a giant difference between certain domesticated animals and feral.

01:29:30.000 Cats are the best example because feral cats are so different.

01:29:34.000 Domesticated cats are wonderful.

01:29:36.000 They sit in your lap, they touch your legs and go up like this up and down with their little claws.

01:29:43.000 It's cute.

01:29:43.000 He'll do that, but then he'll just bite you.

01:29:45.000 Like I said, I had a feral cat.

01:29:48.000 He used to do that too.

01:29:49.000 But the difference between that and an actual cat in the wild is profound.

01:29:54.000 They know no one's looking out for them, and that switch has already gone off.

01:29:57.000 They're not being taken care of.

01:29:59.000 But if you took care of him from the time he was a baby, it'd be interesting.

01:30:02.000 Maybe he'd be a good cat.

01:30:03.000 Maybe.

01:30:04.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:30:05.000 Would you be willing to do that, to clone him, or would you think some pet cemetery shit would go down? 0.99

01:30:08.000 Oh, no, not that. 0.99

01:30:09.000 I think it'd just be so hard. 0.99

01:30:10.000 Because what I love about him is all the shit we went through. 0.99

01:30:14.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

01:30:14.000 Right. 1.00

01:30:15.000 He's part of your history.

01:30:16.000 He was with me through everything.

01:30:18.000 Right. 0.98

01:30:20.000 He's going through all that shit in L.A., and then he lived with me in D.C., which is a horrible place, and then, you know, New York and everything. 0.98

01:30:27.000 So he's like symbolic. 0.99

01:30:29.000 It's the time in my life.

01:30:31.000 I dedicated my first book to him, him and Joan Rivers.

01:30:35.000 It was him and Joan Rivers, neither of whom can read this.

01:30:37.000 That's what I dedicated to.

01:30:38.000 Joan Rivers has my favorite conspiracy theory.

01:30:41.000 The real kooks believe that they took out Joan Rivers when she said Michelle Obama was a man.

01:30:45.000 Yes, yes, that conspiracy theory.

01:30:47.000 People are like, look at this video!

01:30:49.000 Look at this video!

01:30:50.000 She says this, and then what happens?

01:30:53.000 It's so funny. 1.00

01:30:54.000 Those fucking, the really loony conspiracy people online. 1.00

01:30:58.000 Oh, they're hilarious. 1.00

01:30:59.000 There's so much entertainment in that.

01:31:02.000 That's one of my favorite ones.

01:31:03.000 Oh, that's...

01:31:03.000 Joan Rivers...

01:31:04.000 She was 80 years old and she was getting plastic surgery.

01:31:06.000 Yes, plastic surgery, I know.

01:31:07.000 For like the 80th time. 1.00

01:31:09.000 Like, that shit is so bad for you. 1.00

01:31:11.000 I know. 1.00

01:31:11.000 Getting put under is so bad for you. 1.00

01:31:13.000 I know.

01:31:13.000 And when you're 80, it's so dangerous.

01:31:15.000 But it's probably addictive to get all that shit done. 0.99

01:31:17.000 100%. 0.99

01:31:17.000 I mean, I've not had plastic surgery, but when I get old, I might want to. 0.99

01:31:21.000 Like, I might want to get like a facelift.

01:31:23.000 Well, I think in the future, you won't have to do that.

01:31:26.000 I think they'll have an ability to regenerate skin tissue and make your skin much healthier.

01:31:31.000 For sure, they're already doing these things where they microneedle your face and cover your face with exosomes.

01:31:37.000 I've done that.

01:31:37.000 That I've done.

01:31:38.000 That has a significant impact.

01:31:40.000 Red light therapy has a significant impact in your skin elasticity and your collagen.

01:31:45.000 But I think in the future, they're going to be able to regenerate tissue.

01:31:48.000 And I think they're pretty close to that. 0.99

01:31:51.000 I don't think you're gonna need to get your fucking lizard face up. 1.00

01:31:53.000 I mean, I'll do it, though. 0.99

01:31:55.000 You know what creeps me out, though, when women get a mouth that's too big? 1.00

01:31:57.000 Yeah.

01:31:58.000 Do they get Joker face? 1.00

01:31:59.000 Because their fucking face is being pulled sideways. 1.00

01:32:03.000 So they have a smile and they always show some gum. 1.00

01:32:05.000 I know.

01:32:06.000 I think it's addictive.

01:32:07.000 I think you get like a little bit more and a little bit more and you don't realize how crazy you start to look.

01:32:12.000 Well, it's for sure body dysmorphia.

01:32:14.000 It's the same as people who have anorexia, the same as people who are bodybuilders who think they're tiny.

01:32:20.000 People have a propensity to develop, at least certain people do, this kind of disease where you don't see yourself as other people see you.

01:32:27.000 Right.

01:32:27.000 And it can get real weird if you start doing stuff to your face.

01:32:30.000 Yeah.

01:32:31.000 Like, we played a video compilation of these two brothers.

01:32:35.000 I don't know what they do.

01:32:36.000 They're famous for some reason, but super handsome when they're young.

01:32:39.000 Like, handsome, good-looking, like, model.

01:32:42.000 Looked like a model. 0.99

01:32:42.000 And as they got older, they started shooting shit in their face, and then they became, like, Pinwheel from Saw. 0.99

01:32:48.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:32:48.000 Like, the whole thing is, like, super bizarre. 0.98

01:32:50.000 And if you see the madness take place, like, over the years, like, here...

01:32:55.000 So this is what they look like now.

01:32:58.000 But let me show you what they used to look like when they were young.

01:33:02.000 They were just good-looking guys.

01:33:06.000 See if you can find a video of the guy over the years, because the video over the years is wild, because you get to see his face moving.

01:33:14.000 And you see him, and you go, oh, he's a good-looking guy, a good-looking normal guy.

01:33:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:33:21.000 So this is them when they're already fucked up. 0.99

01:33:24.000 Right. 0.98

01:33:25.000 But this is them when they're younger.

01:33:26.000 Go back to that real quick.

01:33:28.000 Look at that.

01:33:28.000 They're good looking.

01:33:29.000 Good looking guys.

01:33:30.000 Very good looking. 1.00

01:33:30.000 Like genetic lottery type shit. 1.00

01:33:32.000 Yeah, like model type. 0.99

01:33:33.000 Like right there.

01:33:33.000 Great looking guy.

01:33:35.000 And now look at them. 0.99

01:33:36.000 They look insane. 0.97

01:33:37.000 Yeah. 0.67

01:33:38.000 Instead of just looking like an old, like Kevin Costner.

01:33:40.000 Just an older, handsome man.

01:33:42.000 You know?

01:33:42.000 It's also like, so I like, you know, and I'm very proud of having been on TV for 10 years.

01:33:47.000 I have my original lips.

01:33:48.000 I have my original teeth.

01:33:49.000 Congratulations.

01:33:50.000 Which is like a big deal.

01:33:51.000 People get like the big, there's a lot of bad veneers going around.

01:33:54.000 Like a lot of really bad.

01:33:55.000 There's probably a lot of good ones though.

01:33:56.000 Of course, but I like, so my mom died, it'll be 10 years in November.

01:34:00.000 I like that I kind of look like her. 0.95

01:34:02.000 If I fucked up my face too much, I probably wouldn't look like her anymore. 0.97

01:34:05.000 Like, I like to look like myself. 0.99

01:34:07.000 Yeah, that's a good thing.

01:34:08.000 But I, I don't know.

01:34:10.000 I mean, you always think, usually, maybe a little bit, and people go, more and more and more.

01:34:13.000 I mean, maybe when I, I don't like...

01:34:15.000 It's a dangerous road.

01:34:16.000 And when actresses do it, it fucks up their career. 1.00

01:34:19.000 I think it does.

01:34:20.000 Well, it does for like some because they go away because they don't look like the same person anymore.

01:34:24.000 Exactly.

01:34:25.000 Like the girl from Dirty Dancing? 0.99

01:34:27.000 Jennifer Grey?

01:34:27.000 I've never seen Dirty Dancing.

01:34:28.000 What?

01:34:29.000 I've never seen any movies.

01:34:31.000 The only movies I've ever seen is I watch Happy Gilmore over and over again.

01:34:35.000 You don't see any movies other than Happy Gilmore?

01:34:37.000 So I've seen Billy Madison.

01:34:38.000 How much Adderall were you doing while you were watching Happy Gilmore?

01:34:41.000 No, I've seen, I just, movies are long.

01:34:44.000 Okay.

01:34:44.000 So I don't, I mean, but I've seen...

01:34:47.000 So she got her nose fixed. 0.95

01:34:48.000 This is like her older, but when she was younger, she had this very prominent nose, and then she got it fixed, and like, she was unrecognizable.

01:34:56.000 It's cool to look different from everybody else in some way.

01:34:59.000 Yeah, but the problem is when everybody knows you as the person who looks like that, like Barbra Streisand.

01:35:03.000 If Barbra Streisand got a nose job, it would be crazy. 1.00

01:35:06.000 What are you doing?

01:35:08.000 You're not Barbra Streisand anymore.

01:35:09.000 We love the old you.

01:35:10.000 That's what we like.

01:35:11.000 We don't want you doing that.

01:35:13.000 That's nuts.

01:35:14.000 You're changing the shape of your nose, and it's really obvious.

01:35:17.000 Yeah, I do recognize her.

01:35:20.000 It's crazy when dudes do it.

01:35:22.000 Like politician dudes.

01:35:24.000 And all of a sudden they got that frozen forehead.

01:35:26.000 Wasn't that Matt Gaetz that did it?

01:35:27.000 All of a sudden he's got this, the eyebrows are up and his forehead's not moving.

01:35:30.000 He looked really real housewives. 0.99

01:35:33.000 Yeah, like, hey bro.

01:35:34.000 You just looked different three weeks ago.

01:35:36.000 You can't do that.

01:35:37.000 Who told you you should do that?

01:35:38.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:35:39.000 Why are you scared of a brow movement when you're a man?

01:35:43.000 Especially as a man.

01:35:44.000 I don't get why men do it at all because men are allowed to get old. 0.80

01:35:47.000 With women, it makes a little more sense. 1.00

01:35:50.000 Men, it's like if you are 80, you can have a girlfriend who's 30. It happens all the time, right?

01:35:55.000 But women, not so much. 1.00

01:35:56.000 And people cheer it on.

01:35:57.000 People are like, yeah, bro!

01:35:59.000 It's hilarious.

01:35:59.000 Yeah!

01:36:00.000 Yeah, it's like when you see Rupert Murdoch with whatever his latest wife is.

01:36:04.000 Everybody does it.

01:36:05.000 Everybody who's older, it's very common.

01:36:10.000 You don't even have to be that rich.

01:36:12.000 There's a lot of those old rich guys, though, that have like...

01:36:15.000 Bomber wise.

01:36:16.000 Of course.

01:36:17.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:36:17.000 It's crazy to watch.

01:36:18.000 That's why I say my husband's only two years older than me.

01:36:21.000 So that's actually I think I'm technically like 10 years older.

01:36:23.000 Right.

01:36:24.000 If you take society into account, he's actually like I'm a cougar.

01:36:28.000 Right.

01:36:28.000 Yeah.

01:36:29.000 You're going for a guy that's only two years older than me. 0.90

01:36:30.000 Crazy.

01:36:31.000 I know.

01:36:33.000 It's like, in general, especially with old rich guys.

01:36:37.000 None of them are married by their age.

01:36:39.000 No.

01:36:40.000 I told them, I'm like, babe, you're in finance.

01:36:42.000 Your wife's not even born yet.

01:36:46.000 But he said to me, he said that he usually gets bored in relationships, but with me, he prays for it.

01:36:52.000 He prays for boredom?

01:36:53.000 Yeah, he's like, I'm never bored.

01:36:54.000 He's like, I wake up every day, I never know who I'm going to get.

01:36:57.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:36:58.000 Are you more or less stable off the amphetamines?

01:37:02.000 Less.

01:37:03.000 Less stable.

01:37:04.000 More impossible to predict.

01:37:06.000 But I'm also pregnant.

01:37:06.000 Right.

01:37:07.000 So I'll be doing...

01:37:08.000 I don't know if it's...

01:37:08.000 For example, he'll say something to me, but I'm very self-aware, which is good.

01:37:12.000 I think I'm very...

01:37:13.000 Are you sure?

01:37:14.000 I think so.

01:37:15.000 Okay.

01:37:15.000 I think so.

01:37:16.000 I've had a lot of therapy, which I think is helpful.

01:37:19.000 Like, when I've needed it.

01:37:20.000 I don't know.

01:37:20.000 I don't go all the time.

01:37:21.000 But I'll be...

01:37:23.000 He asked me recently if I could pick some things up around, like, this is your stuff.

01:37:26.000 I was like...

01:37:27.000 I'll just leave.

01:37:28.000 If you want me to just leave.

01:37:29.000 And I'm like, oh my god, sorry.

01:37:30.000 That was a bit of an overreaction.

01:37:32.000 But I don't know if that's because I'm not medicated or because I'm pregnant.

01:37:35.000 It's probably a little bit of both.

01:37:37.000 You know?

01:37:37.000 I mean, certainly there's something going on inside your body that's significant.

01:37:40.000 And then on top of that, you're off speed.

01:37:42.000 Yeah.

01:37:42.000 That's why it'd be interesting for you to wait a little while.

01:37:44.000 I think I'm going to.

01:37:45.000 Yeah.

01:37:45.000 Which I never thought I would.

01:37:46.000 You probably should.

01:37:47.000 You might like yourself more after nine months.

01:37:50.000 Yeah.

01:37:51.000 Because right now you're still in the hell of it.

01:37:52.000 It is.

01:37:53.000 How many months has it been since you stopped?

01:37:55.000 So, I found out I was pregnant at the end of May.

01:37:58.000 Okay.

01:37:59.000 So, just a couple of months.

01:38:00.000 Yeah.

01:38:01.000 Yeah.

01:38:01.000 June, July.

01:38:02.000 Oh, and we're in September now.

01:38:03.000 Okay.

01:38:03.000 Yeah.

01:38:04.000 So, three months.

01:38:05.000 Yeah.

01:38:05.000 So, this is like a new thing.

01:38:07.000 You know, your body's probably still...

01:38:10.000 Equalizing, you know, normalizing getting down to the regular levels and it's weird when I see myself in the mirror I still like do a jump scare because I'm like that who's that because I was so skinny before I was really skinny before now I have like a belly because I'm supposed to right, but I do a jump scare a little bit Really?

01:38:26.000 Yeah, but I'm going back out.

01:38:28.000 I mean I'm going back back out on tour when the book comes out So I'm gonna be super pregnant super pregnant five days a week on Gottfeld two days a week on the road Wow So that's going to be a lot.

01:38:38.000 Are you worried about that?

01:38:39.000 Like, becoming exhausted?

01:38:41.000 And that would have a detrimental effect?

01:38:43.000 I'm worried about being exhausted, but I'm not worried about having a detrimental effect.

01:38:47.000 I mean, because I'm just going to do it.

01:38:49.000 And I love it.

01:38:50.000 Like, I love being on stage.

01:38:51.000 I love doing what I do.

01:38:53.000 Well, as long as you get enough sleep.

01:38:54.000 Yeah.

01:38:55.000 But it's going to be tough at the end.

01:38:57.000 It's going to be...

01:38:58.000 You're going to do it all the way to the end?

01:38:59.000 Yeah, I'm doing it all the way until I can't fly anymore.

01:39:01.000 So the middle of December.

01:39:02.000 Wow.

01:39:04.000 But, you know, my husband says he's gonna come with me.

01:39:07.000 His joke, he has like a couple jokes.

01:39:09.000 He has like five jokes.

01:39:10.000 And one of them is he's like, I'm gonna come so she has someone to yell at.

01:39:13.000 That's his bit.

01:39:14.000 He has a few jokes.

01:39:15.000 He's in the military.

01:39:16.000 What else does he say?

01:39:16.000 He loves when people ask him if he's ever been hunting.

01:39:19.000 Because then he gets to say, just people.

01:39:21.000 Yeah, people like that one.

01:39:23.000 Yeah, he likes that one.

01:39:24.000 I'm trying to think what else.

01:39:25.000 He's got like five solid bits that he does.

01:39:27.000 But, you know.

01:39:29.000 It's crazy that you're going to do it all the way up until nine months.

01:39:33.000 Why not just stop doing it at six?

01:39:37.000 It's going to be rough.

01:39:39.000 I'm a person of extremes.

01:39:40.000 I'm always like, I want to take it to the limit every single time.

01:39:44.000 Even while you're pregnant? 0.87

01:39:46.000 What if you give birth prematurely when you're on the road?

01:39:48.000 I don't think I will.

01:39:50.000 Oh, well, you've had a lot of experience having babies.

01:39:52.000 I know, but they said I shouldn't fly past 34 weeks.

01:39:55.000 So that would be December 28th-ish.

01:39:58.000 And my last show is, I think, December 15th.

01:40:01.000 So I'm just listening to what they're telling me.

01:40:04.000 Well, that's good.

01:40:05.000 And I also think it's going to be...

01:40:09.000 I'm really passionate about the subject matter.

01:40:12.000 I love doing the shows.

01:40:15.000 Why wouldn't I do it other than what you just mentioned?

01:40:19.000 It's funny that people would instantly want to label you as a right-wing person because you're on Fox.

01:40:25.000 Also, it's funny that just people do that anymore.

01:40:27.000 Whatever they did when they first created Fox, because Fox was essentially the first real opinion-based news source that was very right-wing that was on television.

01:40:37.000 And then that gave the rise to, or at least gave some of the motivation to places like CNN to develop these editorial-based shows and opinion-based perspectives that really annoyed and polarized so many people.

01:40:52.000 And it used to be that there were certain stations that would have objective news, and you would get objective news, and you would have right-wing people giving their perspective and left-wing people.

01:41:01.000 Look, Gore Vidal and William F. Buckley debated live on television multiple times in a row, and it was like one of the biggest events on TV at the time.

01:41:11.000 People were allowed to have differing opinions, and they'd be on a show, and we would let them talk things through.

01:41:18.000 And even then, I'm sure it was polarized.

01:41:21.000 It's always going to be.

01:41:22.000 People are always going to be tribal. 0.95

01:41:23.000 But today, it's so much more ridiculous than at any time I could ever remember in my life.

01:41:29.000 Well, I think that one of the biggest problems with today is not just that there's a lack of independent thinking, but that people have difficulty even perceiving it when it happens. 0.75

01:41:38.000 So if I say something that is critical of Kamala, then people are like, oh, she's MAGA, she's super MAGA. Or if you say something critical of Trump, then it's like, oh, you're a communist and you're going to vote for it.

01:41:50.000 And they don't even perceive that, hey, maybe someone could be this other thing where they just kind of don't fall into either camp.

01:41:58.000 Maybe you just have a point and just listen to what the point is.

01:42:02.000 And the parties don't mean anything in a lot of sense.

01:42:05.000 I've been at Fox for almost 10 years now. 0.99

01:42:07.000 So I used to get shit on for... 0.99

01:42:10.000 I'm super anti-war. 0.99

01:42:12.000 I'm an anti-war person. 0.96

01:42:18.000 We know they lie to us about a lot of these things.

01:42:20.000 We know that people get promoted and they get rich.

01:42:24.000 They move on from working as generals to working in weapons companies, etc.

01:42:28.000 We know all this stuff.

01:42:29.000 But that used to be something that the left would agree with me on, and the right would yell at me about, and then it was Trump was becoming anti-war with Ukraine, and then it was reversed.

01:42:37.000 Then I was like, I'm a Trump puppet for thinking and saying the things that I've always thought.

01:42:42.000 People even notice that, though.

01:42:46.000 They don't even notice it as it's happening.

01:42:48.000 Because they're really just committed to their tribe.

01:42:50.000 Exactly.

01:42:51.000 It's these blue no matter who people or red till dead people.

01:42:54.000 And you can trick them into – this is one of the reasons why, like, if I was the grand manipulator of the world, if I really believe there's one cabal of super geniuses that's running everything, I would try to see if I could do that. 0.97

01:43:06.000 I would say, let's even get the left to support censorship, pro-war, invasive politics, like entering into people's homes and classrooms and siphoning up their information in order to protect trans kids in fucking Detroit, 0.97

01:43:23.000 or whatever it is. 0.93

01:43:24.000 Come up with some fucking reason and make everybody get a part of a centralized digital currency, because that's better for everybody. 0.98

01:43:30.000 Put everybody on an app so we know if you're vaccinated. 0.98

01:43:32.000 That's the left!

01:43:33.000 If I wanted to show that people are so easily manipulated that there is no left, there is no right, it's mostly nonsense.

01:43:40.000 It's mostly people just applying, they're just subscribing to a predetermined pattern of beliefs and behaviors that they think is good and makes them a part of the tribe.

01:43:49.000 It's exactly what it is.

01:43:51.000 It's exactly what it is.

01:43:53.000 Because when people say, oh, are you moderate?

01:43:55.000 Moderate according to what?

01:43:57.000 What are these two pillars that have been set up?

01:43:59.000 It's not real.

01:44:00.000 And it's always changing.

01:44:02.000 And it goes so far to the left and so far to the right that...

01:44:07.000 What used to be crazy is now normalized.

01:44:11.000 Like hormone blockers for kids.

01:44:13.000 Like being able to take away parents' rights because the child wants to transition and they want to be able to do it without the parents say so.

01:44:22.000 And they're 13, 14 years old. 1.00

01:44:24.000 Fucking crazy! 0.99

01:44:25.000 The stuff with the schools is crazy to me because it shouldn't matter what it's about. 0.99

01:44:29.000 But there's never been a time in history we would have accepted that.

01:44:32.000 No.

01:44:33.000 To say that you can't tell the parents what's going on with the kids at school is to say that the state has more ownership over your kids than you do. 1.00

01:44:42.000 That's some creepy communist shit. 1.00

01:44:45.000 And it's not just creepy communist shit, but it's prescribed. 1.00

01:44:50.000 It's like this is what you're supposed to believe in if you want to be a part of the progressive left. 0.99

01:44:54.000 Yeah, but then of course the right takes it too far.

01:44:56.000 Being like, no drag queens. 1.00

01:44:59.000 You should definitely be allowed to be a drag queen, but I don't know if you should have drag queen story hour for five-year-olds when there's no parents around.

01:45:06.000 And also when the kids can't read or do math is my thing.

01:45:10.000 I think that all of this stuff, it's also very, I've noticed, it became more of an argument after COVID. I think there's a lot of distraction from, hey, these kids lost a lot, because I think it's so crazy how it's this radical idea to say, when Trump said,

01:45:25.000 I'd get rid of the Department of Education, people go, he hates kids.

01:45:27.000 It's like, okay, well, look what they did, and look what they're continuing to do.

01:45:32.000 I mean, kids are not...

01:45:33.000 Well, look at the results.

01:45:33.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:45:33.000 Look at the results in this country.

01:45:35.000 The academic results are terrible.

01:45:36.000 There was no school for two years in some places.

01:45:39.000 Getting rid of a department or disbanding a department doesn't mean you don't fund that thing anymore.

01:45:44.000 But it probably would be better if there was something more competitive.

01:45:48.000 Exactly.

01:45:49.000 Because if you just give it, just like we were talking about the homeless problem in California, if you just give it to an organization, institution, it's a government-funded institution, has no obligation to be profitable, has no obligation to be effective.

01:46:01.000 And you just say, we're spending a lot of money on the homeless problem.

01:46:05.000 And what you've really done is just employ a bunch of people and they've done very little.

01:46:09.000 No.

01:46:10.000 Well, they've done a lot in terms of probably their own incentives and their own power.

01:46:14.000 You can apply that to basically infrastructure, education, everything.

01:46:19.000 It's just the same kind of thing.

01:46:20.000 It's like, I'm not this...

01:46:22.000 Person says the free market will figure out everything.

01:46:25.000 But in a lot of cases you'd be better off with some competition.

01:46:29.000 So you'd force people to be more effective.

01:46:32.000 You'd force results.

01:46:33.000 You would force people to be accountable for whatever decisions they've made and what the results of those decisions are.

01:46:40.000 There's no accountability.

01:46:40.000 Right.

01:46:41.000 There's no accountability.

01:46:41.000 And that's a real problem in this country.

01:46:43.000 And that used to be something that the left feared.

01:46:47.000 The left used to fear corporate interference and big business and big government.

01:46:52.000 They used to fear that.

01:46:53.000 They used to fear all that stuff, and now they're all in on it.

01:46:56.000 It's so weird.

01:46:58.000 Yeah, and for me, I mean, I'm a huge—I mean, First Amendment is so important, right?

01:47:03.000 If you don't have that, you don't have anything.

01:47:05.000 Well, you don't have a job without it.

01:47:07.000 I don't either.

01:47:08.000 No, of course.

01:47:09.000 I would be in jail a lot.

01:47:11.000 Think about what they're putting people in jail for in England.

01:47:14.000 Just posting things on Facebook. 0.98

01:47:16.000 But I get shit from both sides for depending on what I'm defending in terms of something being constitutional. 0.98

01:47:22.000 I mean, obviously with the left, it's like... 0.99

01:47:25.000 What also was crazy to me is people, a lot of the same people were the Trump-as-Hitler people, were also the hate speech laws people.

01:47:32.000 Which is like, how can you think this government that's led by Hitler should be in control of what you can and can't say? 0.88

01:47:37.000 That doesn't make sense to me.

01:47:38.000 But sometimes, flag burning has to be constitutional.

01:47:43.000 You have to be able to buy a flag.

01:47:45.000 You can't burn a flag you bought.

01:47:48.000 That's government protest.

01:47:49.000 You have to be able to do that.

01:47:50.000 I don't like it.

01:47:51.000 I would never do it.

01:47:52.000 But you shouldn't put people in jail for it.

01:47:55.000 Yeah, Trump said he wants to put people in jail for a year.

01:47:57.000 Yeah, and I was like, oh, dude.

01:47:59.000 It's like, you know what I mean?

01:48:00.000 He got shot.

01:48:02.000 He looked awesome when he got shot.

01:48:04.000 I mean, really.

01:48:05.000 If I got shot, I would not look that cool.

01:48:06.000 Right.

01:48:07.000 Fist pumping.

01:48:08.000 Fight, fight, fight.

01:48:08.000 No, I'd be like, ah!

01:48:10.000 Pretty gangster.

01:48:10.000 Yeah, it was amazing.

01:48:11.000 When he got shot, I was like, oh, he won.

01:48:14.000 I really thought, after he got shot, I was like, he just won the election.

01:48:17.000 Well, I think they did, too.

01:48:18.000 That's why they shuffled Biden out and put Kamala in. 1.00

01:48:20.000 Yeah, I think so, too. 0.99

01:48:21.000 And they're like, let's just gaslight these motherfuckers into a coma and push this through. 1.00

01:48:25.000 Yeah, I think so, too. 1.00

01:48:27.000 I think so, too.

01:48:28.000 100%.

01:48:28.000 If they had a full year Of Kamala versus Trump, like a full year of her running and doing interviews, we'd have a much more...

01:48:34.000 And talking.

01:48:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:48:35.000 We'd have a much more balanced understanding of who she is and how this is going to look and what it's going to be like if she becomes president. 1.00

01:48:41.000 Absolutely.

01:48:42.000 Because right now people are just riding on gas.

01:48:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:48:45.000 They're fucking riding on gas. 1.00

01:48:47.000 But it's so powerful. 1.00

01:48:49.000 And you can see it.

01:48:51.000 Everybody's in on her.

01:48:52.000 That's really powerful.

01:48:53.000 People are excited about her.

01:48:55.000 Alexa.

01:48:56.000 Alexa's in on her.

01:48:57.000 That Alexa thing's crazy. 1.00

01:48:58.000 Pop culture.

01:49:00.000 You know, everyone's in on it.

01:49:01.000 And it's also...

01:49:04.000 I hate election years because it's just like, if you don't vote for blank, this whole country is going to go down.

01:49:11.000 But both sides say it.

01:49:14.000 So it's just like, it's no.

01:49:16.000 Whoever wins, it's going to be shitty and just in different ways and maybe some of the same ways.

01:49:21.000 It's just not... 0.79

01:49:22.000 What do you think would be the shittiest, like, not in terms of for the country, but in terms of people's reaction?

01:49:28.000 Do you think more violence will take place if Trump gets in office or more violence will take place if Kamala gets in office?

01:49:34.000 Because I anticipate there's going to be some craziness after the election.

01:49:38.000 Of course.

01:49:39.000 Once someone decides, whoever someone is, whoever's president, whenever it gets decided, there's going to be some madness.

01:49:46.000 Yeah.

01:49:46.000 You got to be some real madness.

01:49:47.000 And I get scared of that kind of stuff, too, because I know that a lot of times when people do that, they think they're making a point.

01:49:53.000 But boy, if you're against government control, those kind of like real angry riots and protests are an amazing opportunity for them to clamp down on your rights.

01:50:04.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:50:06.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:50:06.000 When that happens, it's like, okay, well then we need to federalize police and this and that.

01:50:14.000 It's crazy.

01:50:15.000 I am concerned about it for the same reasons.

01:50:18.000 Absolutely.

01:50:18.000 And it's going to be bad, no matter what, in terms of the reaction of the other side.

01:50:25.000 I'm not looking forward to it.

01:50:27.000 I'm like, I can't wait for this election to be over, and then I'm like, oh, it's going to be even worse.

01:50:30.000 Yeah, it probably will.

01:50:32.000 I mean, especially if you believe the conspiracy theories that some of that stuff is funded.

01:50:36.000 Like, some of that stuff is organized.

01:50:38.000 Some protests and riots, they seem to be organized.

01:50:41.000 Right?

01:50:41.000 And I'm not going to be a conspiracy theorist, but there is a thing called an agent provocateur.

01:50:46.000 It's always existed.

01:50:47.000 And they send people in to disrupt protests and turn them violent and make things chaotic.

01:50:51.000 That's always been the case.

01:50:53.000 Especially if they want to Push a very specific agenda.

01:50:57.000 The people are fed up and they're angry.

01:51:01.000 Remember when the George Floyd riots were going on and they'd find pallets of bricks just laying around?

01:51:06.000 Yeah, well that was crazy because I... Some people had reasons for certain bricks being in places, but there was a few of them where people just said that they just got dropped off there.

01:51:18.000 And that's exactly where everything popped off.

01:51:20.000 Why are there pallets of bricks?

01:51:22.000 There's never just pallets of bricks laying around.

01:51:24.000 No, I have no idea.

01:51:26.000 But if you were going to organize a riot...

01:51:28.000 Wouldn't you just leave some bricks?

01:51:30.000 I'd break some bricks.

01:51:30.000 I'd leave some bricks.

01:51:31.000 For my riot, yeah.

01:51:32.000 If I was like, look, this is what we're going to do.

01:51:34.000 We're organizing.

01:51:35.000 We're spending all this money to get these college kids to invest in this.

01:51:38.000 Then we're going to bring in Antifa, and they're going to go crazy, and we're handing out masks, and then we're going to leave bricks around. 0.98

01:51:44.000 And I also think it's sad because I think that there were...

01:51:48.000 Definitely legitimate points to be made and are about criminal justice, I think.

01:51:52.000 But boy, was that handled.

01:51:55.000 So they go from that to people setting buildings on fire and then CNN doing the fiery but mostly peaceful with the famous.

01:52:05.000 It's like, come on, you don't got to defend that. 0.99

01:52:08.000 People, you look ridiculous. 1.00

01:52:10.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:52:11.000 But then it got completely bungled.

01:52:13.000 And so in the name of criminal justice reform, now it's like people who are actual violent criminals can be allowed out easier.

01:52:19.000 Nobody wanted that.

01:52:21.000 So then now the pendulum is going to swing in the other direction where, you know, it's going to be even more law and order.

01:52:28.000 And it's going to be, like you said, it's going to be rights at stake, civil liberties at stake, which is what this was supposed to be all about to begin with.

01:52:36.000 Well, this is the ultimate goal of – I mean, again, I'm not saying this is happening, but this would be the ultimate goal of a communist dictatorship.

01:52:44.000 You cause chaos.

01:52:45.000 You step in to stop the chaos.

01:52:47.000 You install new rules to make sure that there's no more chaos anymore.

01:52:52.000 You protect – you cause a problem.

01:52:54.000 You bring up a solution.

01:52:55.000 That solution allows you to gain more control, and you just keep doing it.

01:52:58.000 You keep doing it until you have ultimate control over the people.

01:53:01.000 Yeah, and I'm not saying it's happening either, but in general...

01:53:03.000 It's moving that way.

01:53:04.000 In general, the fear is used by the government a lot.

01:53:08.000 Right.

01:53:08.000 It's really...

01:53:09.000 I mean, even going back to talking about war and national security and we need to do this.

01:53:15.000 Next thing you know, I mean, look at the Patriot Act.

01:53:17.000 Yeah.

01:53:17.000 I mean, people were like, you have to be able to protect you, banning TikTok, all these things, and you look into what they're really doing and the power that it would really give them.

01:53:26.000 It's like, oh, this isn't about really just banning TikTok.

01:53:29.000 Yeah.

01:53:30.000 What did Kamala Harris say recently about Elon Musk and Twitter having to follow the same rules as Facebook?

01:53:37.000 Yeah, what did she say?

01:53:38.000 I don't know.

01:53:39.000 I didn't hear what she said.

01:53:40.000 It was something about how Elon's gonna have to follow the same rules as Facebook.

01:53:45.000 Like says who?

01:53:46.000 That's so great.

01:53:47.000 First of all, what rules?

01:53:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:50.000 And also, didn't Mark Zuckerberg just come out with a statement saying that he regretted giving in to the government's request to take down COVID-19 information?

01:54:02.000 Yeah.

01:54:03.000 And...

01:54:03.000 Yeah, and then the laptop story.

01:54:06.000 He just came out.

01:54:07.000 It was a big statement.

01:54:09.000 Yeah.

01:54:10.000 Because for a lot of people, they were really furious about it.

01:54:12.000 Claim.

01:54:13.000 A video clip portrays Harris saying that she will shut down X. I don't think she said she would shut it down if she wins 2024 with a pleasure election and Musk has lost his privileges.

01:54:21.000 The fact, that's false.

01:54:23.000 Harris was referring to Trump long before Musk and Twitter rebranded it as X. So is that what she was saying from that video?

01:54:31.000 So was the video her saying that why should Trump, why should Twitter be allowed to have Trump on if Facebook can't have him on?

01:54:40.000 Is that what it is?

01:54:43.000 When I'm looking for the video, all I'm seeing is like within the last 24 hours posts say a claim is false.

01:54:50.000 Right, but that is not what we were talking about, though.

01:54:52.000 We were talking about something slightly different.

01:54:54.000 Let me see if I can find it for you.

01:54:55.000 Fact check, does she want to shut down X? No, no, [... 0.79

01:54:58.000 I'm not saying that she said she would shut it down.

01:55:00.000 What I'm saying is that she was saying that why should Twitter not have to follow the same rules that are being followed by Facebook?

01:55:11.000 Right, what I typed in was Kamala Harris Twitter rules, so that's the videos that were popping up.

01:55:15.000 Here, I'm sending it to you right now, Jamie.

01:55:17.000 This is what I'm looking for.

01:55:20.000 Okay, so I need to know what she's referring to here, but listen to this statement.

01:55:26.000 Yeah, I think this is from that.

01:55:27.000 Go ahead and play it.

01:55:28.000 Let's see what it says.

01:55:31.000 So she's probably talking about Trump being on Twitter, is that what it is?

01:55:34.000 She was talking to Jake Tapper, so we'll see if that's what this is.

01:55:37.000 You can't say that you have one rule for Facebook and you have a different rule for Twitter.

01:55:41.000 The same rule has to apply, which is that there has to be a responsibility that is placed on these social media sites to understand their power.

01:55:50.000 They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation.

01:55:59.000 And that has to stop.

01:56:01.000 Okay, right away.

01:56:02.000 There's no way to misconstrue that.

01:56:04.000 What does that mean? 0.96

01:56:05.000 Oversight and regulation for free speech is ridiculous.

01:56:08.000 Just that alone, there's no way to misconstrue that. 0.52

01:56:12.000 What she was saying is what I was thinking she was saying.

01:56:15.000 She was saying she wants government oversight and regulation for social media.

01:56:20.000 That's crazy.

01:56:22.000 It's crazy for anyone to want it because if the only reason you want it, right, is because you agree with the ideological bent of the platform, wait until someone else is in charge of it, or wait until there's a different government in charge.

01:56:33.000 It's also saying that the very thing that Mark Zuckerberg regrets should be happening.

01:56:39.000 Like, she's essentially saying, why should they have different rules for Facebook than they do for Twitter?

01:56:44.000 Like, what rules?

01:56:46.000 What rules?

01:56:46.000 We don't have rules.

01:56:47.000 We have First Amendment rights of free speech.

01:56:49.000 I think it actually is even crazy that he's admitting that.

01:56:52.000 I mean, good for him, absolutely.

01:56:54.000 Well, Trump said something pretty scary for him.

01:56:57.000 He said that if he finds out that he interfered with the election, he's going to be in jail for the rest of his life.

01:57:01.000 That's pretty scary. 0.93

01:57:02.000 That's pretty fucking scary because it's very likely that he might wind up being the president. 0.96

01:57:06.000 And if he winds up being the president, they start investigating this stuff. 0.97

01:57:09.000 If I was Mark Zuckerberg, I'd be pretty fucking freaked out by that statement because It is election interference.

01:57:16.000 For sure, whoever was running Twitter who gave in to the FBI's request to take down the Hunter Biden laptop story, they definitely interfered with the way people voted.

01:57:27.000 Because if people found out that that laptop was legitimate and all that stuff was true, And there's a certain percentage, I don't know what the number is, but there's a certain percentage of people that were maybe on the fence, and that could have influenced their vote one way or another.

01:57:40.000 And it could have given Trump fuel, because he could have been talking about it.

01:57:43.000 See, I told you that this was real, and they've been lying.

01:57:46.000 And it would also prove that Biden lied during the debates.

01:57:50.000 I don't understand how anybody didn't think it was real, though.

01:57:53.000 Because Hunter never even denied it.

01:57:55.000 When all those people signed that letter, all those intelligence people...

01:57:59.000 They have 51 former intelligence agents.

01:58:01.000 51 signed it.

01:58:02.000 Guess who didn't sign it?

01:58:03.000 Hunter Biden!

01:58:06.000 Right?

01:58:06.000 That's what I thought from the...

01:58:08.000 I was like, okay, if that was me and someone was saying there was a laptop going around of me, you know, doing all this shit, banging all these people on camera and smoking all these drugs, I'd be like, that... 0.94

01:58:21.000 I would be like, that was not me. 0.93

01:58:23.000 I would be like, you know, that'd be pretty important for me to come out and say that.

01:58:27.000 If it happened today, you could claim it was AI. Easy.

01:58:29.000 Well, that's out there with everybody, me included, sadly.

01:58:32.000 Yeah.

01:58:32.000 Forever.

01:58:33.000 Forever.

01:58:34.000 Yeah, and not only that, it's going to change and get way more complex.

01:58:37.000 And there's nothing you can do about it.

01:58:38.000 Because you knock it down, it's like whack-a-mole.

01:58:39.000 It's like, then there's another one, then there's another one.

01:58:41.000 There's nothing you can do about that.

01:58:42.000 But with all this stuff, this talk, whatever she was saying right there is not what you want to hear from somebody.

01:58:49.000 No!

01:58:49.000 You don't want to hear they're going to censor social media.

01:58:52.000 They were talking specifically about Senator Warren talking about banning President Trump's account, and that was her response to it.

01:59:00.000 Yeah, but she was also talking about oversight.

01:59:03.000 She talked about oversight very specifically and clearly.

01:59:06.000 Yeah, it has the quote right here.

01:59:07.000 Yeah.

01:59:08.000 And what's the rule that she's talking about?

01:59:10.000 The same rule should apply, which there has to be a responsibility that is placed on these social media sites to understand their power.

01:59:16.000 They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop.

01:59:24.000 That's all you need to hear.

01:59:25.000 That right there is not something you want to hear from someone who respects the First Amendment.

01:59:30.000 That's not how it's supposed to be.

01:59:32.000 Also, who's they?

01:59:33.000 It's just a collection of people.

01:59:35.000 Not only that, if you're talking about oversight and regulation, are you talking about the exact same people that were trying to get Twitter and successfully did get Twitter to take down the Hunter Biden laptop?

01:59:44.000 And make it impossible to share that video saying that it was misinformation when it was not.

01:59:49.000 And if you don't do anything to correct and to hold people responsible that pushed out that misinformation and no one's punished for it and there's no repercussions at all, what are you saying then?

02:00:02.000 What are you saying?

02:00:03.000 It's okay if your side says things that aren't true and you can regulate in a way that's not based on fact or reality but based on a result that you want to take place and that's fine.

02:00:14.000 So we don't have freedom of speech?

02:00:17.000 No, of course not.

02:00:18.000 Then you're talking nonsense. 0.75

02:00:19.000 This is talking crazy talk.

02:00:20.000 Maybe she believed it was real back then.

02:00:22.000 Maybe she believed it was real.

02:00:23.000 Who knows?

02:00:24.000 Maybe she believed it was important.

02:00:26.000 But if you got a hold of the Twitter files and you see what Michael Schellenberger and Matt Taibbi and all those people that went through that stuff with a fine-tooth comb, the stuff that they found out, Should make you realize, like, no, you can't have the government tell you what you can and can't say.

02:00:40.000 They don't always tell the truth.

02:00:42.000 They're often influenced.

02:00:44.000 Sometimes you have rogue actors.

02:00:45.000 You probably have one or two people that's responsible for making the call to Facebook or to Twitter.

02:00:50.000 So it's on them? 0.86

02:00:51.000 It's on these people with whatever fucking influence that they have and whatever people are talking to them behind the scenes? 0.99

02:00:57.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99

02:00:58.000 I can't have that, kids.

02:00:59.000 It's bad for everybody.

02:01:00.000 Yeah, and just the idea that there's certain information that's misinformation is just the government-sanctioned information.

02:01:07.000 No, but they can't even let you debate it.

02:01:09.000 They want you to stop it.

02:01:10.000 As soon as they want you to stop it, the only solution to bad information is good information.

02:01:15.000 That's how it's supposed to be.

02:01:17.000 If they want to stop you from saying something, and then it turns out that what you were saying was true, no one should trust them ever again.

02:01:24.000 There should be some sort of a comeuppance, and there's no comeuppance.

02:01:27.000 There's no discussion of it.

02:01:29.000 It's never talked about.

02:01:30.000 It's just plowed on through, and we move on to the next thing with no acknowledgement at all. 0.99

02:01:35.000 You guys fucking bullshitted us and lied to us for years. 1.00

02:01:39.000 For years! 1.00

02:01:41.000 And now you want to control social media to stop lies.

02:01:43.000 And the lab leak theory is one that really, I mean, people's careers were destroyed over being like, maybe this virus came from this lab full of viruses where it was found right outside of. 1.00

02:01:53.000 And they were like, you fucking crazy ass. 0.98

02:01:57.000 But it was only because certain information was seen as acceptable and sanctioned and certain information was seen as not. 1.00

02:02:03.000 Well, it's way creepier than that.

02:02:04.000 Of course.

02:02:05.000 It's actually suppressing it.

02:02:07.000 No, I get it.

02:02:08.000 There's a business behind it. 1.00

02:02:10.000 And they use their money and their influence and their control of the media to fuck you. 1.00

02:02:14.000 You got bullshitted. 1.00

02:02:15.000 You got bullshitted by business.

02:02:17.000 And business, they got together with media and they all had a plan.

02:02:22.000 What are you playing, Jamie?

02:02:23.000 What are you watching over there? 1.00

02:02:27.000 More bullshit. 1.00

02:02:28.000 It's just there's so much bullshit. 1.00

02:02:30.000 But also less bullshit. 0.99

02:02:33.000 If you think about overall, because there's way more truth now, right?

02:02:36.000 Like, you get way more independent journalism than we've ever had access to in the history of the human race.

02:02:44.000 And you get so much of it. 0.99

02:02:45.000 So you get all this media propaganda and mainstream bullshit. 0.96

02:02:48.000 But on top of that, you get a lot of Jimmy Doors. 0.95

02:02:52.000 You get a lot of independent people that are telling the truth.

02:02:54.000 You get the Glenn Greenwalds.

02:02:56.000 You get the Matt Taiz. 0.97

02:02:57.000 You get all these people that are just telling you, Michael Schellenberger, telling Barry Wise, telling you what the fuck is actually going on, and not attached to some large corporation. 0.93

02:03:06.000 Yeah, but it's also saying the government is the only one that's allowed to be wrong. 0.94

02:03:10.000 Right.

02:03:10.000 Because if what they say is misinformation turns out to be true, as was so many things, that's okay.

02:03:16.000 Right, but it's not just wrong.

02:03:18.000 You were lying.

02:03:19.000 Of course.

02:03:20.000 Like Fauci being like, oh, we made up six feet.

02:03:22.000 Like, oh, we didn't really know.

02:03:23.000 It's just actively lying.

02:03:24.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:03:25.000 There's a difference between being wrong about something and just lying and then getting truth removed.

02:03:31.000 You know, and shaming doctors from Stanford and Harvard and making them out to be kooks. 0.54

02:03:38.000 Some of the people that were the top of their field.

02:03:40.000 And they had dissenting opinions because they're experts. 0.99

02:03:43.000 And they're watching this bullshit go down by bureaucrats. 1.00

02:03:46.000 And they're like, you motherfuckers. 1.00

02:03:47.000 And people say, just stay home. 1.00

02:03:50.000 That drove me nuts.

02:03:50.000 I feel like, how can you say that when you're still at work?

02:03:54.000 When you're still at work, right?

02:03:56.000 I mean, I was lucky to still have my job.

02:03:58.000 And people had to shut down.

02:04:00.000 Even New York's not the same anymore as it used to be because a lot of these businesses closed down forever.

02:04:04.000 What made New York so special was a lot of those small businesses, restaurants, things like that.

02:04:08.000 They can't afford to be open and just not have customers for that long.

02:04:11.000 So now a lot of that's like Dunkin' Donuts.

02:04:14.000 Are you seeing the difference in New York with the spike of immigrants?

02:04:17.000 I haven't really.

02:04:18.000 I don't go outside that much.

02:04:20.000 There was some recent statistic about the percentage of violent crimes, robberies, and assaults that were created by migrants, illegal immigrants that are in New York right now. 0.99

02:04:34.000 Yeah, I'm not familiar with that.

02:04:35.000 I mean, I also truly don't go any—like, I go to work in my apartment, and that's pretty much it.

02:04:40.000 I was going to read the article, but I saved it.

02:04:41.000 See if you can find it, though.

02:04:43.000 Because I thought it'd be an interesting thing to talk about.

02:04:45.000 Like, at what point in time—like, I know that Eric Adams, the mayor, is like, stop coming here, go somewhere else, and Kathy Hochul's like, get out of here, go somewhere else, but— You still have a sanctuary city, and you still are paying them to stay there.

02:04:58.000 That's the thing that gets me.

02:04:59.000 If you are nonviolent and you want to come contribute to our economy, then I think you should be welcome to do so, but the incentives where you're paying for things...

02:05:07.000 Here it is.

02:05:08.000 Immigrants.

02:05:09.000 It's on New York Post.

02:05:10.000 Migrants flooding New York City's justice system, making up 75% of arrests in Midtown. 0.97

02:05:15.000 As pathetic sanctuary city laws handcuff cops. 0.97

02:05:20.000 I saw this thing where someone was complaining to these cops about someone doing something illegal and they said we can't arrest them because this is a sanctuary city and they're migrants. 0.97

02:05:30.000 It was somewhere in Colorado.

02:05:34.000 So you could just do wild things and no one could do anything because you're in a sanctuary city?

02:05:40.000 And I think it's terrible.

02:05:41.000 I think it should be very simple.

02:05:42.000 I think that if you want to come contribute to the economy and you're nonviolent, you should be free to do so.

02:05:46.000 I don't think we should be paying people, I mean, to come over to the cities.

02:05:51.000 What do you think they're doing?

02:05:52.000 Yeah, that's what they're doing.

02:05:53.000 What do you think they're doing, though?

02:05:54.000 Why do you think they're doing it this way?

02:05:56.000 I mean, there's many explanations.

02:05:57.000 There's a bunch of conspiracies, and then there's also the idea of people not wanting to be called xenophobic.

02:06:06.000 Yeah, but not wanting to be xenophobic doesn't mean you have an open border.

02:06:10.000 The idea of just completely abandoning any idea of security concerns.

02:06:14.000 Yeah, I think it could be more...

02:06:15.000 It's sad because there are people who want to come here and work and should be able to and have problems that can't come here.

02:06:21.000 But then there's people who just...

02:06:23.000 It's not even the problem...

02:06:25.000 You don't even blame...

02:06:26.000 You come here, you get a free this, you get free that, free place to stay.

02:06:29.000 Why wouldn't these people all come?

02:06:31.000 Right.

02:06:31.000 Do you think they're bringing them in here to buy votes, though?

02:06:34.000 I'm not convinced.

02:06:35.000 That's the most interesting one.

02:06:36.000 I'm not convinced by that.

02:06:37.000 Well, Nancy Pelosi was on Bill Maher and she was talking about providing a path for them to all be citizens.

02:06:44.000 And that's what she wants to do.

02:06:45.000 Make them document it.

02:06:46.000 Document them.

02:06:47.000 Aren't a lot of people from these countries conservative, though?

02:06:49.000 Well, it depends on which countries.

02:06:51.000 From Cuba, for sure.

02:06:52.000 There's definitely people who are also conservative.

02:06:53.000 But the thing is, most people look out for the best interest, and you can buy them.

02:06:58.000 I mean, if you're the party that let them through and gave them money and allowed them to establish a foothold in America, and now their family's here and they're doing much better, well, you would definitely vote Democrat, because they're the people that hooked you up.

02:07:09.000 That just seems like a natural human incentive without even having to bribe them to do it.

02:07:14.000 If you're giving them loans and helping them get houses and making it so they can vote and giving them a clear path to citizenship, that seems like if I came here from Guatemala and I didn't know a lot about our political system, the people that hooked me up, I'd stick with them.

02:07:30.000 So you probably are going to get a higher percentage of those people that, if you could ever do this and create a path with these people who are illegal immigrants and enter into the country illegally, can get a quick path. 0.99

02:07:41.000 You would have a lot more voters.

02:07:43.000 A lot.

02:07:45.000 You'd have a lot.

02:07:46.000 I mean, it sounds crazy to say, but it doesn't seem crazy to try if you're trying to figure out a way that you can win and win in the future almost every time.

02:07:56.000 Wouldn't you just bring in voters? 0.99

02:07:58.000 I mean, I've obviously heard the argument before.

02:08:01.000 I'm not super convinced by it.

02:08:04.000 I think that there's many other things that play into it.

02:08:06.000 But in general, my problem is with the extremely large welfare state in general and where the money goes and how bad the government is at spending money.

02:08:14.000 Yeah.

02:08:15.000 I mean, because it's also...

02:08:18.000 Same thing as California's in New York.

02:08:19.000 I mean, there's been so much money spent, wasn't it Bloomberg, or excuse me, de Blasio's wife that was in charge of, like, the homeless mental health initiative?

02:08:27.000 You went there missing a bunch of money? 0.98

02:08:29.000 It's like, I'm sitting there, I used to live in Hudson Yards, and my husband and I are sitting in, we've since moved, but we're sitting there, we're looking down in the park, watching, like, some dude get a blowjob from, you know, some... 0.97

02:08:42.000 I feel like there's a lot still going on here with this mental... 0.82

02:08:47.000 Where's my money all going in general?

02:08:50.000 And I feel like with immigration, I think also the two sides, there's a lot of incentives that people get from politically.

02:09:00.000 Think about the dreamers.

02:09:02.000 Here's the thing about cheap labor, and this is what Tim Dillon's been saying.

02:09:05.000 He thinks they're bringing in cheap, illegal labor. 0.99

02:09:08.000 And that's why construction businesses, like if you kicked out all the illegal immigrants, he was like, a lot of construction businesses would be fucked. 1.00

02:09:16.000 They'd be fucked. 0.99

02:09:17.000 And he said, there's a lot of people that don't want those jobs anymore, and they're sneaking in people to fill those jobs. 0.99

02:09:23.000 He thinks that's part of it.

02:09:25.000 And that makes sense.

02:09:26.000 But did you ever see that documentary, Wild Wild Country? 0.99

02:09:29.000 It's fucking great. 0.98

02:09:30.000 It's on Netflix. 0.99

02:09:32.000 And it's all about this cult that put together this compound in the Pacific Northwest.

02:09:37.000 And one of the things they did is they brought in homeless people by the buses.

02:09:41.000 They found all these homeless people.

02:09:43.000 You can be a part of our community.

02:09:45.000 And these homeless people get there like, wow, finally I have a place and I belong.

02:09:48.000 These people were all psyched.

02:09:50.000 They belonged to this community.

02:09:50.000 And then they voted.

02:09:51.000 So they took over the whole town by bussing in voters.

02:09:54.000 So they brought in these voters.

02:09:56.000 They just grabbed homeless people from everywhere.

02:09:58.000 And they integrated into the community.

02:10:00.000 That's a South Park episode.

02:10:01.000 They had them vote, but they really didn't.

02:10:03.000 Yeah.

02:10:03.000 This is like in the 80s or 90s.

02:10:06.000 So they had them vote.

02:10:07.000 What year was that?

02:10:09.000 What year did that take place?

02:10:10.000 It might be the 2000s.

02:10:11.000 Anyway, had them vote, and then once they took over the town, they kicked all the homeless people out. 1.00

02:10:16.000 Get the fuck out of here! 0.99

02:10:17.000 And the homeless people were like, I thought you loved me! 1.00

02:10:19.000 I thought it was a part of the team!

02:10:21.000 And these people, like, for once in their life, they had direction, they had meaning, they were part of a community, they're trying to get off the dope, they're feeling better about themselves, chanting and really believing all this thing these people are talking about, and they really just used them.

02:10:33.000 They're political pawns.

02:10:34.000 Yeah.

02:10:34.000 Well, it's the same thing.

02:10:35.000 Remember how the DREAM Act, the DREAMers, was such a big deal when Trump said he was going to remove the protections?

02:10:41.000 But then, okay, so why have they not been protected now?

02:10:45.000 So why has there been no bill?

02:10:48.000 If everybody cares so much, people, they don't care.

02:10:51.000 That's like my overarching belief is just that politics, they just don't care about you.

02:10:56.000 It makes people fight in their real life with people on the behalf of people that don't even care you exist.

02:11:02.000 They can't.

02:11:03.000 They can't care.

02:11:04.000 There's too many people.

02:11:05.000 I mean, just imagine wanting that job, first of all.

02:11:07.000 No, I can't.

02:11:08.000 And then imagine the stress of, how is Trump doing it at 78 years old?

02:11:13.000 How is he dealing with the stress of doing this?

02:11:16.000 No. 0.99

02:11:16.000 And he's doing podcasts, and it's like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:11:19.000 He's on a podcast with Theo. 0.98

02:11:21.000 The podcast with Theo is amazing.

02:11:24.000 He did one with Lex yesterday.

02:11:26.000 So it's just like, how do you have the energy to keep the... 1.00

02:11:30.000 Fuck that job. 1.00

02:11:31.000 I would never. 1.00

02:11:33.000 And how can you...

02:11:34.000 You can care as much as you want about...

02:11:37.000 You could try to care.

02:11:38.000 But there's so many things to care about. 0.99

02:11:41.000 There's so much going on and everything's a fucking fire. 0.99

02:11:44.000 Everything's on fire. 0.99

02:11:45.000 The economy's on fire.

02:11:47.000 International relations on fire. 0.95

02:11:49.000 I went and got two coffees and two shitty egg sandwiches with my husband the other day. 0.99

02:11:54.000 Shitty ones. 0.97

02:11:55.000 You know the ones that are pre-made and you just heat them in the heat.

02:11:57.000 It was over $60.

02:11:59.000 What?

02:12:00.000 Yeah.

02:12:00.000 Is that New York City?

02:12:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:12:01.000 Fucking get out of there. 1.00

02:12:02.000 Why are they doing that? 1.00

02:12:04.000 Work, that's it.

02:12:04.000 I don't know.

02:12:06.000 Is Fox stupid? 1.00

02:12:06.000 Why don't they move their fucking business to Connecticut somewhere? 1.00

02:12:09.000 Move anywhere. 1.00

02:12:10.000 I'm all about it, because that's the only reason I'm there.

02:12:12.000 Yeah, go somewhere else.

02:12:13.000 And I don't go out, right?

02:12:14.000 I guess it's fun if you're young.

02:12:15.000 But when I was there and I was young, I was poor.

02:12:18.000 So I never really got...

02:12:19.000 Now I'm married and pregnant, so I'm not really going out, right?

02:12:22.000 I'm going home and to work.

02:12:23.000 And you can't even live in Long Island because it's too hard to get over there.

02:12:26.000 It's too hard to get over there.

02:12:27.000 We're still renting, and I'm making that decision.

02:12:29.000 I'm like, do we buy a house somewhere?

02:12:31.000 In Jersey?

02:12:31.000 In Jersey, but then I live...

02:12:33.000 But then it takes you an hour to get to work.

02:12:34.000 Exactly.

02:12:35.000 If you leave at six in the morning.

02:12:36.000 Exactly.

02:12:37.000 It's one of those deals.

02:12:38.000 Which is worse?

02:12:40.000 It's hard. 0.98

02:12:41.000 And if you want to do stand-up, god damn it. 0.97

02:12:44.000 You kind of have to be in the city. 0.98

02:12:45.000 Like, it's so hard to do set.

02:12:47.000 Unless you're single and free.

02:12:48.000 Like, when I lived in New Rochelle, I lived in New Rochelle because I couldn't afford to live in the city at the time, and I was doing a lot of road gigs.

02:12:56.000 I needed a car.

02:12:56.000 I needed a parking spot.

02:12:58.000 And if I lived in the city, a parking spot was like...

02:13:00.000 500 bucks a month or something like that.

02:13:02.000 It was crazy.

02:13:03.000 Half of my rent for a spot to put my car. 1.00

02:13:06.000 I had to have a fucking car. 0.98

02:13:07.000 So I used to have to drive in the city to go and do spots. 0.99

02:13:11.000 So I'd do spots in the city.

02:13:12.000 I'd have to pay to park.

02:13:13.000 I'd always lose money.

02:13:14.000 I never made any money.

02:13:15.000 If I lived in the city and just hopped around the subway and took cabs, I could have made a living doing stand-up in the city.

02:13:21.000 But I had to do road gigs in order to just make a living just to be able to do sets in the city.

02:13:25.000 Yeah, and I've just started getting into going back up just around the city again.

02:13:31.000 Just like, oh, what am I doing this weekend?

02:13:32.000 Hey, can I get a spot at this place?

02:13:33.000 Because I've quit stand-up three times.

02:13:35.000 Now I'm back at it.

02:13:37.000 You can't really ever quit it, I feel like.

02:13:39.000 Some people can.

02:13:40.000 I don't know.

02:13:41.000 I mean, I think I could quit it.

02:13:42.000 I quit it during COVID. I thought I could.

02:13:44.000 I quit it during COVID for like eight months and I was thinking while I was quitting it.

02:13:48.000 I was like, who knows if this is ever going to happen again.

02:13:50.000 I was thinking, I'm okay.

02:13:52.000 I love it.

02:13:53.000 I really love stand-up.

02:13:54.000 It's fun.

02:13:55.000 I love comedian.

02:13:56.000 Stan Hope said it best.

02:13:57.000 He's like, I could quit comedy, but I couldn't quit comedian.

02:14:00.000 Yeah.

02:14:01.000 Which is like totally right.

02:14:03.000 It's like the hang is like, it's too, they're too fun to hang with. 0.93

02:14:07.000 They're too fun to be silly with.

02:14:08.000 Everyone knows there's no boundaries. 0.70

02:14:10.000 Everyone's being hilarious.

02:14:12.000 Everyone, like last night we were in the green room and Brian Simpson came up with this new bit and everybody's like giving it, like he said this thing.

02:14:18.000 It was really fun.

02:14:19.000 I go, dude, that's a bit.

02:14:20.000 He's like, you think so? 0.99

02:14:21.000 I'm like, fuck yeah. 0.99

02:14:22.000 And then he hit it with another tagline and then somebody else jumped in. 0.99

02:14:26.000 Then he had another tagline.

02:14:27.000 Like he created this bit right in front of him and he was like, oh, I can't wait to go on stage and tell that.

02:14:31.000 I was like, woo!

02:14:33.000 Those kind of moments, those are the most fun moments, and I think only comics are going to appreciate that.

02:14:39.000 No one else is going to understand what even just happened.

02:14:41.000 That guy just has a bit.

02:14:42.000 There's not only just a bit, but it's a root.

02:14:45.000 Of what's going to be a real chunk of material.

02:14:48.000 He's just started off with this hilarious premise that has a few really good taglines and then four months from now that's going to probably be a closing bit.

02:14:56.000 It's like one of those deals.

02:14:57.000 I can't stop hanging out with those people.

02:15:00.000 It's too fun.

02:15:01.000 Oh, it's too fun.

02:15:02.000 But I mean, for me, I quit a few times, and I quit most recently also during COVID. And then when I wrote the first book, I started doing a live show, and there's slides involved, but every slide has a punchline.

02:15:11.000 And then next thing you know, I'm going up around the city now doing just like stand-up as well, in addition to my live shows.

02:15:16.000 But now it's pretty much, I'm going to have no time to just do my shows, and then Gutfeld five days a week, and the baby.

02:15:21.000 God.

02:15:22.000 Growing the baby.

02:15:23.000 Maybe you do need speed.

02:15:25.000 Yeah.

02:15:26.000 I'm telling you, I'm telling you, but it's, you know, they don't let you, well, the fact that they would let me take it, I was like, eh. 1.00

02:15:35.000 Yeah, fuck that. 0.98

02:15:35.000 Because then if there was ever anything wrong with the baby, I'd be like, that was my fault. 0.98

02:15:39.000 Right, right, right.

02:15:40.000 That was my fault for taking amphetamines during my pregnancy. 1.00

02:15:42.000 Yeah, yeah, fuck that. 0.99

02:15:44.000 So, I thought I'd be, honestly, I thought when I, I thought I'd be more scared of having kids, and I am scared, I have no idea what I'm doing, but I've also just been, like, too tired. 0.99

02:15:55.000 Yeah.

02:15:55.000 Which is kind of nice.

02:15:56.000 Right, that probably, like, eases some of the anxiety.

02:15:59.000 Just like, ugh.

02:16:00.000 You need a nap.

02:16:01.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:16:02.000 And then once you have the baby, then you're going to need a lot of naps.

02:16:04.000 Yeah.

02:16:05.000 Baby brain is real in the beginning.

02:16:07.000 You think you're out of it now when you don't get any sleep and the baby's up and then you got to take turns.

02:16:14.000 You're going to be sleep deprived for several months.

02:16:17.000 Yeah.

02:16:17.000 At least.

02:16:18.000 At least.

02:16:19.000 At least.

02:16:20.000 I mean, it's crazy because only recently have I accepted that this baby's going to live in my apartment.

02:16:26.000 You know what I mean?

02:16:28.000 I bet you're going to want to get out of there.

02:16:30.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

02:16:31.000 Yeah, you're going to want to get a house.

02:16:32.000 You're going to want to be somewhere safer and quieter.

02:16:34.000 Somewhere outside.

02:16:36.000 Yeah, somewhere where your kid can play.

02:16:37.000 Yeah, baby can't play on the balcony. 1.00

02:16:40.000 It's just, you know, I have friends who raise their whole families in New York City, like kids from baby all the way to grown up, and those kids are different.

02:16:48.000 They're little assassins.

02:16:49.000 Yeah, I'm worried. 0.96

02:16:50.000 I don't want to have to explain to my toddler a dude, like, jerking off on a street corner with a needle in his arm.

02:16:56.000 They know too much at a young age.

02:16:57.000 I don't want to have to, I mean, the stuff that you see, just, and it's not as bad as it was during COVID. It was crazy.

02:17:02.000 People were shooting up all over the place.

02:17:04.000 Not as bad, but still, I mean.

02:17:05.000 Remember when people were using the streets as, like, racetracks?

02:17:08.000 It was nuts.

02:17:09.000 And they were crashing cars.

02:17:10.000 Because there was no one on the street, so people were going like 150 miles an hour down Broadway. 0.98

02:17:14.000 There was, when I lived in Hudson Yards, also, during COVID, there was a dude at a chick bent over a car fucking her. 0.97

02:17:19.000 In the daytime. 0.98

02:17:21.000 In the daytime.

02:17:22.000 And he was like howling.

02:17:23.000 He was like, whoa!

02:17:23.000 And I was like, and I'm looking around, and there's nobody, nobody's doing anything, you know?

02:17:29.000 Well, what do you want them to do?

02:17:30.000 No, right.

02:17:31.000 Like, nobody wants to be in the splash zone.

02:17:32.000 Nobody wants to go anywhere near any of that.

02:17:34.000 Also, with all the terrible things that are going on, is that that bad?

02:17:37.000 You know, I mean, they're not doing anything when someone smashes windows and steals clothes.

02:17:41.000 I would be upset if that were my car.

02:17:43.000 When de Blasio let those people have those smashing grabs and was telling them to, like, get it out of their system, remember that?

02:17:49.000 Yeah, that...

02:17:50.000 That was the strategy, just let the riots burn themselves out and don't arrest anybody. 0.98

02:17:54.000 Like, what are you fucking doing? 0.98

02:17:57.000 Well, no personal property. 1.00

02:17:58.000 That's some communist shit, too. 1.00

02:17:59.000 It was great. 1.00

02:18:00.000 It was just, it didn't make any sense.

02:18:03.000 It was all failed leftist philosophies from, like, the 1960s that nobody really believes in in practice.

02:18:10.000 They've never worked. 0.98

02:18:11.000 You can't just let people fucking smash and grab things. 0.98

02:18:14.000 You're gonna destroy the fabric of society. 0.96

02:18:17.000 So many people are gonna be indoctrinated into looting and stealing that maybe have never done that before.

02:18:23.000 If you have these mass groups of people that Break into a mall and 200 people.

02:18:30.000 How many of those people have ever done anything like that before?

02:18:32.000 Probably a lot haven't. 0.99

02:18:34.000 And now all of a sudden they have and they do it multiple times and then it becomes a normalized thing and they realize you've created a real fucking problem. 0.99

02:18:43.000 Well you feel dumb for not stealing at a certain It's like, why am I still paying for this shit? 0.99

02:18:48.000 But I can't buy anything at a store. 1.00

02:18:51.000 I have to get essentials, toiletries type shit. 0.98

02:18:53.000 You have to just get it online. 0.99

02:18:55.000 You can't go to a store in New York.

02:18:56.000 There's no one working there.

02:18:58.000 There's a few employees.

02:18:58.000 You got to press a button every time you need something.

02:19:01.000 Everything's locked up.

02:19:02.000 Bert Kreischer went viral today because I think Breitbart put a video of his because he went through a Rite Aid.

02:19:07.000 Yeah.

02:19:07.000 I saw someone commenting on that though that Rite Aid's going out of business and that store is like one of the ones that's closing.

02:19:12.000 Where are people going to get their amphetamines? 0.97

02:19:14.000 Right, but you know why they're going out of business?

02:19:15.000 Because they got looted.

02:19:17.000 Everything's locked up.

02:19:18.000 I see what you're saying, but it doesn't make sense that they're going out of business so they locked up everything.

02:19:25.000 No.

02:19:25.000 No, they locked up everything because people were stealing.

02:19:27.000 Like crazy because they passed a fucking law where anything under $900 or whatever it was, they weren't allowed to arrest you. 0.99

02:19:34.000 So people would just run in and throw deodorant and fucking hairspray. 0.99

02:19:37.000 Toothpaste, everything. 0.99

02:19:38.000 Throw everything in a bag and walk right out the door and no one could do a goddamn thing about it. 0.91

02:19:43.000 Video showing deserted Rite-Aids bare shelves after bankruptcy goes viral. 0.97

02:19:47.000 Is this Bert?

02:19:47.000 Yeah.

02:19:48.000 Lookit, Bert went viral.

02:19:50.000 Bert's so happy he's never going to stop doing this now.

02:19:52.000 He's going to go everywhere.

02:19:52.000 I want to go to every Rite Aid there is!

02:19:56.000 Burke Kreischer, who showcased the empty shelves, incorrectly attributing them to theft.

02:20:03.000 INCORRECTLY! First of all, it's the reason why they're locked up.

02:20:07.000 Show the video.

02:20:08.000 Show the video.

02:20:10.000 Do you want me to send it to you?

02:20:12.000 You got it.

02:20:13.000 Okay.

02:20:14.000 Because saying that, that's kooky to say.

02:20:18.000 That's really kooky to say.

02:20:20.000 Falsely attributing them to theft.

02:20:22.000 Or is this one maybe- Look, everything's locked up.

02:20:28.000 Oh, these are empty.

02:20:29.000 This is empty, so this probably is going out of business.

02:20:31.000 Yeah.

02:20:32.000 But I think this is going out of business because it's not locked up.

02:20:39.000 Yeah, this is incorrect.

02:20:41.000 This is classic Burr.

02:20:43.000 So I thought these were locks, locked boxes.

02:20:47.000 Okay.

02:20:48.000 Burr's wrong.

02:20:49.000 But he's not wrong because the reason why they're going out of business is because they've been looted.

02:20:54.000 So, like, they've abandoned several major cities, right?

02:21:00.000 They've moved out, like, a lot of businesses have moved out of San Francisco, a lot of businesses have moved out of L.A., for a very specific reason, because of these looting.

02:21:08.000 Yeah.

02:21:08.000 Like, this is real.

02:21:09.000 Like, what companies have pulled stores because of the after-effect of looting?

02:21:19.000 Let's find out.

02:21:20.000 I know they have in Oakland.

02:21:22.000 I think they have in San Francisco.

02:21:26.000 Let's Google drugstores.

02:21:29.000 What drugstores have pulled out of San Francisco?

02:21:34.000 I think it's Walgreens.

02:21:37.000 So what's the difference between Walmart and Walgreens?

02:21:41.000 Walgreens is a drugstore, Walmart is the big place, but they have drugs there too, right?

02:21:45.000 Yeah, they have a pharmacy.

02:21:47.000 They can hang in there.

02:21:47.000 Yeah, they're an institution in many places.

02:21:51.000 It closed around 900 stores during the next three years.

02:21:54.000 Nine percent of them, or wait, it then closed six in San Francisco, including five throughout downtown and one on Van Ness Avenue.

02:22:01.000 Yeah, drugstores. 0.95

02:22:02.000 Drugstores used to be like the most profitable fucking business you could own, and now they're like, we're just getting robbed. 0.99

02:22:09.000 Yeah, well, I mean... 0.98

02:22:10.000 So Bird's kind of right.

02:22:12.000 He's not right why those shelves are empty at that moment because they're going out of business, but that's why they're going out of business.

02:22:19.000 Well, those would be locked up.

02:22:21.000 Old Navy to Nordstrom.

02:22:22.000 Half of the retailers fleeing downtown San Francisco. 0.99

02:22:26.000 Well, because brick and mortar wasn't doing that well to begin with because people are buying shit online. 0.99

02:22:30.000 Right. 0.99

02:22:30.000 And then you just let people go. 0.99

02:22:32.000 People were going to the store because you can steal it.

02:22:34.000 It's so crazy.

02:22:35.000 You can steal it.

02:22:36.000 It's almost like they want society to collapse.

02:22:38.000 Like allowing stuff like that and not making corrective measures to make these retailers feel comfortable so they stay in your community without doing anything to save them and letting them pull out and not making any corrective measures is so nuts.

02:22:51.000 Yeah, it is nuts, but nothing's changed.

02:22:54.000 I mean, New York's stuff has been locked up forever now.

02:22:57.000 Right, but this is a new thing is what I'm saying.

02:22:59.000 Yeah, relatively.

02:22:59.000 This didn't exist in the year 2000. You never saw this.

02:23:03.000 So in the last 24 years, all of a sudden it's become a thing that people are looting stores on a regular basis to the point where they have to move out of cities because there's no correction in the way they enforce the laws.

02:23:12.000 Well, it's also not going to change, right?

02:23:14.000 Like New York is not going to have – the Republicans are not going to win New York.

02:23:17.000 They might.

02:23:18.000 It could get sideways enough where a Republican, a Rudy Giuliani type character can get in there.

02:23:22.000 That depends on how much they have the system rigged.

02:23:25.000 But I think there's a real possibility that someone could reach, or some conservative Democrat, you know, some...

02:23:33.000 Yeah, like a law and order Democrat.

02:23:34.000 That's possible.

02:23:36.000 Yeah, you can have one of those.

02:23:38.000 But people are just going to have to get fed up.

02:23:41.000 And the problem is, if they don't get fed up and they keep voting for the same thing like they seem to do in California and a lot of other places, they're never going to change.

02:23:49.000 It's just going to keep getting worse.

02:23:51.000 And I don't understand that. 0.97

02:23:52.000 It's like, how much do you love your ideology where you don't realize that they're fucking your life up? 0.60

02:23:58.000 Yeah, I don't know. 0.80

02:23:59.000 I mean, I just have no hope.

02:24:04.000 I don't think it's gonna get any better.

02:24:06.000 I don't know.

02:24:07.000 I mean, you have hope?

02:24:08.000 Yeah, I do.

02:24:09.000 I have faith in people.

02:24:10.000 I really do.

02:24:11.000 I think we come really close to fucking up a lot, and we pull ourselves out of the ashes. 0.92

02:24:16.000 And I think there's been, if you just follow the course of our society over the last hundred years, there's been a lot of ups and downs. 0.97

02:24:22.000 There was prohibition.

02:24:23.000 There was World War I, World War II, Vietnam.

02:24:26.000 There's a lot of things where it looked like society was over.

02:24:28.000 Kent State, oh my god, what's going on?

02:24:30.000 Martin Luther King gets shot.

02:24:32.000 JFK gets shot.

02:24:33.000 There was a lot of, like, terrible moments.

02:24:34.000 And then things got better.

02:24:36.000 And then things, you know, it's always, if you look on a chart, there's always, generally speaking, over time, there's less crime, less problems, the economy does a little bit better, everybody, the cost of living changes, like,

02:24:52.000 your The way you live your life improves overall generally.

02:24:58.000 I think if you look at like a thousand years to today, it's obvious.

02:25:02.000 There's a clear path.

02:25:03.000 It's just like, gotta make sure that whatever dip we're in right now, we correct.

02:25:09.000 Yeah.

02:25:09.000 All the things that we're doing wrong, it doesn't mean you can't do all the good things that progressive people want to do in terms of funding education and helping people get over drug addiction and homelessness.

02:25:22.000 All those things should be funded.

02:25:24.000 It's a good idea to have more healthy, happy people in our society.

02:25:28.000 But also, you can't rob the store.

02:25:32.000 You shouldn't just be able to sneak in across the border because terrorists are a real thing.

02:25:37.000 You can't rob a store.

02:25:38.000 And then also with letting people, I mean, violent criminals out is another thing where it's like, dude, nobody wants this.

02:25:45.000 It's crazy.

02:25:45.000 Nobody wants this person who has this violent, violent history to be out on the streets.

02:25:51.000 Except really super progressive DAs who think that the criminal justice system is inherently racist.

02:25:56.000 I think there's plenty of things wrong with the criminal justice system.

02:25:59.000 I don't think anybody should go to prison for drugs.

02:26:01.000 I think drugs should be legal.

02:26:02.000 I think all drugs should be legal.

02:26:03.000 I think for sure.

02:26:05.000 But I think that that's different than saying crimes with people who've committed crimes with victims should be allowed to go.

02:26:12.000 Accrue more victims.

02:26:13.000 Right.

02:26:14.000 The thing about drugs is already illegal.

02:26:17.000 So if drugs were legal, all the negative aspects of drugs other than addiction and overdose are already illegal.

02:26:24.000 People that do math and break into a house because they need money for more meth.

02:26:27.000 Like, that's already illegal.

02:26:28.000 You're not supposed to do that.

02:26:29.000 Exactly.

02:26:30.000 And the problem with drugs being illegal is the same problem they have with prohibition during the, you know, the 19, whatever it was, 30s in this country?

02:26:39.000 What year was it when alcohol...

02:26:41.000 I don't know the exact year.

02:26:43.000 It was like seven or eight years, right, where alcohol was illegal?

02:26:45.000 I think it was in the 20s, mostly.

02:26:46.000 But what year did it end?

02:26:48.000 It ended a couple of years before they made marijuana illegal, which is hilarious, because it's a complete shift.

02:26:54.000 They literally took the people that were chasing alcohol, they chased them after marijuana.

02:26:59.000 1920, so 13 years.

02:27:00.000 Yeah, that's nuts.

02:27:01.000 13 years.

02:27:02.000 But people were still boozing!

02:27:03.000 Of course.

02:27:04.000 They're just dying.

02:27:05.000 But it also, my point was that it pumped up organized crime.

02:27:08.000 Yeah, of course.

02:27:08.000 And that's where Al Capone got rich and all these people got rich.

02:27:10.000 They're bootleggers, moonshiners. 0.99

02:27:12.000 That's where NASCAR comes from. 0.55

02:27:14.000 Yeah, that's the main reason why a lot of people point to, you know, look at this place where it's decriminalized, it didn't work.

02:27:19.000 It's like, well, that's decriminalized, not legalized, eh?

02:27:21.000 And you don't have to have all these other things, too. 0.99

02:27:23.000 But a lot of the places, look, it didn't work in Portland where they decriminalized because Portland was already in a fucked up shithole. 0.99

02:27:29.000 A lot of it, yes, exactly. 0.99

02:27:30.000 Portland needed rule. 0.61

02:27:31.000 They needed Jesus.

02:27:33.000 Jesus should have come to Portland and sorted that place out.

02:27:35.000 But instead, they got like, just do whatever you want, man.

02:27:39.000 And then, of course, they're already addicted to drugs, so they're just going to do more drugs.

02:27:42.000 But if you look at what they did with Portugal, that had a profound effect.

02:27:46.000 You look at, there's countries that have decriminalized drugs, and it's been very beneficial.

02:27:49.000 But You're always still buying them from criminals.

02:27:52.000 Because even when it's decriminalized, it's not legal to sell them and profit from them.

02:27:56.000 But it is legal to sell Adderall. 0.92

02:27:58.000 It's like we're in a screwball, fucked up world where we have things that we've accepted as being okay just because they're grandfathered in. 1.00

02:28:07.000 It's so fucked up. 0.99

02:28:07.000 And then other things like weed, which is the best example, but other things like for veterans. 0.99

02:28:12.000 Psychedelics.

02:28:13.000 So many benefits to psychedelics.

02:28:15.000 And also just so many comparative to alcohol and what that does to people versus not really benefits, if any. 0.79

02:28:24.000 But you can be like, I get fucked up and drink whatever. 0.94

02:28:27.000 And it's everywhere. 0.99

02:28:28.000 It's all fine.

02:28:28.000 It's everywhere.

02:28:30.000 But psychedelics, you can go to jail. 0.99

02:28:33.000 It's all dumb, and it doesn't make any sense if you don't want to prop up the organized crime. 0.96

02:28:38.000 Because there's a reason why the cartel's worth billions and billions and billions of dollars. 0.99

02:28:42.000 It's because of us.

02:28:43.000 Because we have drugs that are illegal, and they bring the drugs over and sell it to us, and that's how they make money.

02:28:47.000 Absolutely.

02:28:47.000 And if you don't want to fix that, just say it.

02:28:50.000 Just say it.

02:28:51.000 Because if you want to fix it, there's only one way to do it.

02:28:53.000 And the one way to do it is to regulate it in-house.

02:28:56.000 Like, make it in America, regulate it in America, and then use a responsible portion of that for treatment, a lot of that treatment, which should include psychedelics.

02:29:05.000 So if you want to make things legal and then set up Ibogaine clinics everywhere. 0.94

02:29:10.000 Absolutely.

02:29:10.000 I bet you would get a lot of clean people that would ordinarily have a problem.

02:29:15.000 But I bet Kat would still be taking nicotine and doing speak. 1.00

02:29:18.000 I still like nicotine and amphetamines, but I think especially with veterans' mental health, but just really for anybody who wants to do it, even for fun, I think it should be allowed.

02:29:29.000 Victims of violent crime.

02:29:30.000 There's a lot of people that have had profound release and Just something that allows them to move on past the death of a loved one.

02:29:41.000 There's certain people that get devastated by things and psychedelics have helped them in tremendous ways.

02:29:47.000 And they just denied, the FDA just denied, you know, MAPS has run this long-term study on MDMA. And, you know, now they have to go through more studies.

02:29:58.000 And it's very unfortunate because people have benefited tremendously from that kind of therapy.

02:30:02.000 Yeah, and I mean, if you look at...

02:30:05.000 With veterans, it's like you send them over to these wars, and a lot of people don't come back normal from that.

02:30:12.000 How could you expect them to come back normal?

02:30:15.000 And people love to say, support the troops, support the troops.

02:30:18.000 They don't think about what that really means.

02:30:20.000 And it can look a little uglier, a little more complicated than just saying that or wearing a flag pin on your suit.

02:30:28.000 And I think in general, when it comes to mental health, we've never talked about mental health more, but people are struggling because we have such little leeway for people who are going through a mental health crisis.

02:30:39.000 If you make a mistake, that mistake defines you.

02:30:42.000 Well, there's not just that.

02:30:43.000 There's so limited resources in terms of how to deal with your mental health problem.

02:30:48.000 If you're not allowing people to use psychedelics, then you're deciding.

02:30:51.000 And most of the people that are deciding are also people that haven't experienced psychedelics.

02:30:56.000 Right.

02:30:56.000 Which is really crazy.

02:30:57.000 Yes.

02:30:58.000 It's really crazy.

02:30:58.000 Well, that's the government.

02:30:59.000 They're legislating things they don't understand.

02:31:01.000 Like literally.

02:31:02.000 Yeah.

02:31:03.000 Especially in this regard.

02:31:04.000 Absolutely.

02:31:05.000 I completely agree.

02:31:06.000 If you really wanted to help the troops, you would give them access to that stuff because there's been a lot of people that have had tremendous results.

02:31:13.000 It's not saying it's going to work for everybody.

02:31:15.000 It's not a cure-all.

02:31:16.000 It's not a panacea.

02:31:17.000 But it's a tool.

02:31:18.000 It's a tool in the toolbox and we need a lot of tools.

02:31:21.000 There's a lot of people out there that are hurting.

02:31:23.000 Oh yeah.

02:31:24.000 A huge, huge supporter of that.

02:31:27.000 The world would be a better place.

02:31:29.000 It's crazy that we still have to argue about this in 2024. I know!

02:31:31.000 With all the information that we have now on the internet and all the people that have had to go to Costa Rica and have these retreats and come back and be cured of opiate addiction and all these problems that they've had.

02:31:41.000 And we're still like, eh, more tests.

02:31:44.000 More tests.

02:31:45.000 But here's some fentanyl.

02:31:46.000 More tests.

02:31:47.000 But here, take your oxys.

02:31:49.000 More tests.

02:31:50.000 But you need speed.

02:31:53.000 You should be able to make that choice.

02:31:56.000 Psychedelics are just a huge, huge benefit.

02:31:59.000 I mean, I'm a huge believer in that, actually.

02:32:03.000 Well, I'm a believer in freedom.

02:32:05.000 I'm a big believer in a person.

02:32:08.000 A human being should not be able to tell another human being what they can and cannot do with their life and their body if it doesn't hurt anybody else.

02:32:16.000 Exactly.

02:32:18.000 In my mind, psychedelics fall into that area.

02:32:20.000 And if there's no benefit, no objective benefit, then why are all these people enthusiasts?

02:32:24.000 Why are all these people doing it?

02:32:25.000 Why are all these people talking about profound experiences and how much it's benefited them?

02:32:29.000 And the people that are saying that you can't do it, have you done it? 0.99

02:32:32.000 Do you know what the fuck you're talking about? 0.99

02:32:34.000 And if you don't, probably you shouldn't be the one deciding on this. 1.00

02:32:39.000 Absolutely.

02:32:39.000 We should let people decide.

02:32:41.000 The more freedom you have, the better it is for everybody.

02:32:44.000 But, you know, they're worried about the whole system getting like 1960'd again. 0.96

02:32:48.000 You know, like tune in, turn on, drop out, all that crazy shit that was going on when people became flower children. 0.97

02:32:53.000 Yes, but also, so what? 0.99

02:32:54.000 Yeah.

02:32:56.000 Is homelessness better?

02:32:58.000 If you had 100,000 hippies in LA just selling flowers in the street, would that be worse?

02:33:03.000 Yeah, I think that psychedelics can be beneficial for people who have trauma, but also for just anybody.

02:33:10.000 If you want to be able to experience that, then you should be free to experience that.

02:33:15.000 And if it was legal, you'd be able to find out who can and cannot take it.

02:33:20.000 Because there's some people, they've got to screw loose, and something goes, and they eat mushrooms, and all of a sudden they think they can fly.

02:33:29.000 People get a little nutty, and certain people don't come back, especially acid.

02:33:33.000 I've heard some acid stories where people didn't come back.

02:33:35.000 Yeah, but I mean, of course, you hear stories about everything.

02:33:38.000 But you don't know until you run studies, when things are legal, and you allow people to run these studies, and you come up with effective dosages, you find out what people are allergic to, what's this chemical reaction that people have, maybe certain medications that you shouldn't cross with it.

02:33:54.000 Right.

02:33:55.000 To your point, you've never heard a story about someone doing alcohol and it going badly.

02:34:00.000 Or someone doing pharmaceuticals and it going badly.

02:34:04.000 What a huge tool to be able to diminish the ego in a person.

02:34:10.000 What an amazing life-changing thing that can be.

02:34:13.000 And to say, you can't do that because I said so.

02:34:16.000 It's crazy!

02:34:17.000 To an adult!

02:34:18.000 To an adult.

02:34:19.000 And the person who's telling you is uninformed.

02:34:22.000 They've never tried it.

02:34:23.000 They don't know what they're talking about.

02:34:24.000 And there's no real rational...

02:34:27.000 If you could just have a conversation with a person, not like a debate, not in front of Congress, like this.

02:34:33.000 Just you and me for hours.

02:34:35.000 Let's just sit down for hours and you tell me why you think that psychedelics should be...

02:34:40.000 Prohibited for all adults.

02:34:42.000 You tell me why.

02:34:43.000 And I'm going to tell you why I think they should.

02:34:45.000 Then I'm going to ask you some questions about what do you think they do. 0.68

02:34:47.000 And then you would get a sense over the course of a couple of hours of talking to this person, this person has no fucking business telling people what they can and can't take. 0.96

02:34:54.000 They're just bureaucrats. 0.73

02:34:56.000 They're just bureaucrats and they know that there's a certain amount of people that it's going to benefit them to vote in a certain way and state a certain opinion.

02:35:05.000 And there's a certain amount of vested interests, a certain amount of special interest groups that would like them to continue to vote in a very specific way.

02:35:13.000 And that's their God.

02:35:14.000 That's who they go with.

02:35:17.000 It has nothing to do with what's good for everybody.

02:35:20.000 No, no.

02:35:21.000 And people just, they just have this framework of like, well, that's a crazy thing.

02:35:26.000 That's bad.

02:35:26.000 Drugs are bad.

02:35:27.000 Those are bad.

02:35:28.000 That's crazy.

02:35:29.000 Can't do that.

02:35:30.000 And then people who have had experience with them might feel differently, but that doesn't matter.

02:35:35.000 It's a sign of a sick society.

02:35:36.000 Because then the people who have experience with them are people who do drugs.

02:35:39.000 Yeah.

02:35:40.000 Right.

02:35:41.000 And those people never want to be president.

02:35:43.000 Isn't it ironic?

02:35:44.000 You'd want the president to at least do something.

02:35:47.000 At least some sort of a psychedelic experience.

02:35:50.000 One time to just connect with God real quick.

02:35:54.000 Come back and go, okay, I think we can do better.

02:35:57.000 I think it would be better if more politicians did mushrooms.

02:36:00.000 It probably would, but you'd probably get less politicians.

02:36:02.000 They'd probably just quit.

02:36:04.000 They'd be like, I don't want to do this job.

02:36:05.000 Yeah.

02:36:06.000 You know, I mean, to be able to person who could just gaslight 250 million people on a regular basis, like you have to be out of your mind.

02:36:14.000 Like you have to be really a crazy person to stand in front of people and lie about the economy and lie about job numbers and lie about this and lie about that.

02:36:22.000 Like, that's the most unpsychedelic perspective ever. 0.78

02:36:25.000 Yeah, it really is.

02:36:27.000 What's the most unpsychedelic job?

02:36:29.000 I would say White House press secretary.

02:36:31.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:36:33.000 You're a professional bullshit artist. 1.00

02:36:35.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

02:36:35.000 You're just soothing everything over and making everything seem normal and making it seem like they've done an amazing job and everything's under control. 0.99

02:36:42.000 For the sake of just upholding the system.

02:36:46.000 Yeah.

02:36:46.000 And it's just psychedelics make you think, you know, they make you realize also that you're going to die in a good way.

02:36:52.000 Because the things you worry about in your life feel a little bit less ridiculous when you are more familiar with your mortality.

02:37:02.000 Like, oh, we're kind of just all here, we're all people, and you're able to do things to your consciousness to see things differently.

02:37:10.000 So that just makes you view things differently.

02:37:12.000 What's healthier than that?

02:37:13.000 And like you said, it's not for everybody.

02:37:15.000 There's people who definitely can't do it.

02:37:17.000 Things can go badly. 0.99

02:37:18.000 Regular life is too fucked for them. 0.97

02:37:20.000 There's people that regular reality is too slippery. 0.99

02:37:23.000 They shouldn't be doing anything.

02:37:25.000 Those people need some other kind of help.

02:37:27.000 And I don't know what that help is.

02:37:28.000 I'm not a psychiatrist.

02:37:29.000 But I do know that for a lot of people, they're beneficial.

02:37:32.000 I know a lot of people shouldn't drink, but yet alcohol is legal.

02:37:36.000 And all these things are things that we need to learn.

02:37:39.000 And the only way we learn them is if we have access to them.

02:37:41.000 We know what the real benefits actually are and what the real risks actually are.

02:37:46.000 We know what the real risks of Jack Daniels are.

02:37:48.000 There's a long history of people drinking themselves to death.

02:37:50.000 To death.

02:37:51.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:37:51.000 And not only that, but killing other people. 0.99

02:37:54.000 Oh, yeah.

02:37:54.000 Like, getting behind the wheel, driving, but also getting violence.

02:37:57.000 Oh, yeah.

02:37:58.000 Getting, I mean, just alcohol. 1.00

02:38:00.000 Just getting beat up in the street because you're a fucking drunk and you mouth off to somebody. 1.00

02:38:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:38:04.000 Now you're in the hospital with a broken skull. 1.00

02:38:06.000 Like, there's so many detrimental side effects to alcohol, but yet, no one is saying we should make alcohol illegal.

02:38:12.000 No.

02:38:12.000 Could you imagine if that was their next pitch?

02:38:14.000 Yeah.

02:38:15.000 Prohibition, we need to bring it back. 1.00

02:38:16.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

02:38:18.000 But if they say it with weed, everybody's like... 1.00

02:38:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:38:22.000 That's the way safer drug. 0.99

02:38:24.000 It's way safer.

02:38:25.000 Way safer.

02:38:26.000 It makes everybody a lot more peaceful.

02:38:29.000 It's way less violent.

02:38:31.000 You also don't hear people waxing poetic.

02:38:33.000 I mean, myself included, I'm not going to sit here and be like, well, what alcohol can do is all these really, I mean, can it be fun to get drunk sometimes?

02:38:41.000 Yeah, I guess.

02:38:42.000 But it's like, the next day I'm never like, man, I'm so glad that I drank all that booze that really just opened my eyes to think, no, it's, no.

02:38:51.000 Well, alcohol's the perfect example of no biological free lunch.

02:38:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:38:55.000 Because that rush, that fun time you feel when you're lit, like, woo, and your song comes on, yeah!

02:39:01.000 Look at the barf! 0.99

02:39:02.000 Everybody's like, fuck yeah! 1.00

02:39:04.000 Let's fucking go! 1.00

02:39:05.000 The sun is killing my fucking head. 1.00

02:39:08.000 For me, it's the emotional, like, everybody hates me. 0.99

02:39:13.000 It's the opposite of what psychedelics can do.

02:39:15.000 It gives you some perspective on the world and your place in the world.

02:39:19.000 And then alcohol, the next morning, it's the opposite of that.

02:39:24.000 It's like, everyone, the world revolves around how mad it all is at me.

02:39:28.000 Right, right.

02:39:29.000 You're like, what did I do?

02:39:30.000 What did I do? 1.00

02:39:31.000 And you think about some loud stupid shit you said. 1.00

02:39:33.000 I'm like, why did I do that? 1.00

02:39:35.000 Well, the texting, I'm like, what did I say? 0.99

02:39:39.000 And then I think that I am going to be deposed into court for some shit. 0.98

02:39:43.000 And all these messages are going to be... 1.00

02:39:46.000 Shit that I was saying when I was... 0.99

02:39:48.000 To me, it's pretty clear which one, but there's only one of them that I could go to jail for doing. 0.99

02:39:57.000 Right.

02:39:57.000 It's nuts.

02:39:58.000 It's nuts.

02:39:58.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:39:59.000 It's also been here before people.

02:40:01.000 Like, what are we doing?

02:40:02.000 Making nature illegal. 1.00

02:40:03.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

02:40:04.000 The whole thing is stupid. 1.00

02:40:06.000 And it's stupid. 1.00

02:40:08.000 And the fact that we still allow it is so crazy. 1.00

02:40:11.000 It sounds trivial to people that don't do it.

02:40:15.000 Right.

02:40:16.000 But if you allowed people control of their consciousness and to have these kind of experiences, you'd have a lot more people that are thinking about things in a lot more considerate and careful way.

02:40:28.000 And that's what I think the benefit of it is.

02:40:30.000 Yeah.

02:40:31.000 Maybe you're really not contacting God or aliens, whatever it is.

02:40:35.000 But just the benefits of having it.

02:40:37.000 But I think there's a lot of things that can make people more kind and considerate.

02:40:43.000 In a very counterintuitive way, I think martial arts do.

02:40:48.000 Jiu-jitsu especially.

02:40:49.000 They're the nicest people I've ever met. 0.99

02:40:51.000 My friends from jiu-jitsu are the nicest fucking people. 0.99

02:40:54.000 Because every day they're trying to kill each other. 0.99

02:40:57.000 And they don't have any of that in regular life.

02:41:00.000 There's no chest puffing.

02:41:02.000 There's no douchebaggery.

02:41:04.000 People that are like... 0.70

02:41:06.000 The guys that I know that train three, four times a week and are really interested in jujitsu, doing it all the time, they're some of the most peaceful, calm, easygoing, measured, even when they talk to people in confrontations, very measured, because they're coming from a place of strength.

02:41:24.000 And most men, in particular, they come from a place of trying to pretend they have strength in order to intimidate you to get you on your back foot, get you on the heels. 1.00

02:41:34.000 Like, fuck you, man! 1.00

02:41:36.000 That kind of douchey kind of shit is just insecurity. 1.00

02:41:40.000 And these guys don't have any of that. 0.99

02:41:44.000 I don't think everybody should do jujitsu.

02:41:46.000 It's too hard.

02:41:47.000 Don't do it if you don't want to.

02:41:48.000 Probably not for me.

02:41:49.000 But I think there's a lot of things like that in this world.

02:41:52.000 I don't think it's just psychedelics.

02:41:53.000 I think there's multiple.

02:41:54.000 I think yoga plays a big factor in that.

02:41:57.000 I remember I got in a car accident when I was on yoga.

02:41:59.000 When I was on yoga.

02:42:00.000 I was like, what on yoga?

02:42:02.000 I haven't heard of that one.

02:42:02.000 We learn yoga so much.

02:42:04.000 Me and Ari Shafir, Bert Kreischer, and Tom Segura, we do the Sober October.

02:42:09.000 And every time we do Sober October, we have these things that we do where we'll have a fitness challenge, or you have to do...

02:42:17.000 I think we had 15 yoga classes in the month, so you had to do a yoga class every other day for a month.

02:42:23.000 And I got really into it.

02:42:25.000 I was doing it a lot.

02:42:26.000 And this guy rear-ended me on the highway.

02:42:28.000 And I had a really nice car.

02:42:29.000 And he crashed into me.

02:42:31.000 And he was on his phone.

02:42:31.000 He was texting.

02:42:32.000 And he was illegal.

02:42:34.000 And he didn't have a driver's license. 1.00

02:42:36.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:42:37.000 What a mess. 1.00

02:42:38.000 And I was so calm about it.

02:42:40.000 I was like, you okay?

02:42:41.000 I was like, I'm okay.

02:42:42.000 You okay?

02:42:43.000 And I was like, I'm just going to take off.

02:42:45.000 You know, I'm just gonna get my car fixed.

02:42:47.000 I just took off.

02:42:49.000 Luckily, he didn't wreck my car.

02:42:51.000 He just bent the back.

02:42:52.000 It was a Porsche.

02:42:53.000 It was a 911 GT3, a very nice car. 0.99

02:42:55.000 But his car, he had a little bullshit car, like a little Honda Accord. 0.82

02:42:58.000 And when he slammed on the brakes, it basically went under the back of my car and bumped it up in the air, and it stalled out. 0.99

02:43:06.000 And his car was pretty fucked up. 0.95

02:43:08.000 He couldn't drive off, but I could drive off. 0.98

02:43:09.000 So I just drove to the comedy store.

02:43:11.000 Yeah.

02:43:12.000 And I was like, okay, why was I so calm about that?

02:43:14.000 I wasn't even mad at that guy.

02:43:16.000 I was like, he's an illegal alien.

02:43:18.000 Excuse me.

02:43:18.000 Immigrant.

02:43:20.000 Undocumented minor.

02:43:20.000 Whatever he is.

02:43:21.000 Undocumented immigrant.

02:43:23.000 Just some dude who came from Mexico.

02:43:24.000 Right.

02:43:25.000 His day is having a tough day.

02:43:26.000 I said, why don't you have a license?

02:43:28.000 I go, he goes, I can't because I'm illegal.

02:43:31.000 I said, okay.

02:43:32.000 I go, but yet you still drive.

02:43:34.000 And he goes, I have to for work.

02:43:35.000 I go...

02:43:36.000 I get it.

02:43:37.000 But it was like a very...

02:43:38.000 He said he was sorry.

02:43:39.000 I believed him.

02:43:40.000 It was just a mistake. 1.00

02:43:41.000 He fucked up. 0.99

02:43:42.000 Traffic had slowed. 1.00

02:43:43.000 You know LA. Traffic all of a sudden comes to a screeching halt and sometimes people aren't ready for it.

02:43:48.000 And I really think it was yoga.

02:43:50.000 I didn't even get mad at the guy.

02:43:51.000 I go, alright, take it easy.

02:43:52.000 I just drove away.

02:43:54.000 I drove away and I thought about it afterwards.

02:43:56.000 I was like, why can't it be like that with everything?

02:43:59.000 What would help me be like that in every situation to treat every interaction with people as calm as possible and never really get totally upset by anything.

02:44:12.000 It is what it is.

02:44:13.000 No big deal.

02:44:14.000 And I was like, man, that's probably a great tool just for society.

02:44:18.000 If yoga was a thing that most people did every day in the morning, what impact would that have just in the overall population of how nice people are to each other?

02:44:28.000 It would probably be huge.

02:44:30.000 Probably be huge.

02:44:32.000 Yeah, I was raised in a household where yoga was the devil.

02:44:36.000 Really?

02:44:36.000 Yeah.

02:44:36.000 The devil?

02:44:37.000 My mom was really Catholic.

02:44:39.000 Oh.

02:44:39.000 So, like, it's a bad...

02:44:41.000 I mean, I'm not...

02:44:42.000 I don't know if that's obvious to you.

02:44:43.000 Stretching?

02:44:44.000 That I'm not Catholic.

02:44:44.000 I know, but exactly, yeah.

02:44:46.000 Stretching is the devil?

02:44:47.000 But there's something...

02:44:47.000 I don't know.

02:44:49.000 I've never gotten into it.

02:44:51.000 Can you do stretching for Jesus?

02:44:51.000 Yeah.

02:44:52.000 Why didn't someone do yoga, just take the poses, and add them with little prayers?

02:44:57.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:44:57.000 Add them with some prayers, you know?

02:44:58.000 I'm not Catholic.

02:45:00.000 I'm not religious at all anymore, which is why I think that I'm always looking for things.

02:45:05.000 I'm always looking for a way to be religious or in some sense spiritual.

02:45:10.000 I've never done ayahuasca.

02:45:12.000 I really want to do ayahuasca.

02:45:13.000 I've done other things that have been beneficial to me, but I'm searching for that thing.

02:45:18.000 I'm searching for that.

02:45:20.000 I want to believe in something greater than myself.

02:45:23.000 I think that's normal for people.

02:45:25.000 And I think that's why a lot of atheists, they talk like religious people.

02:45:29.000 They talk about atheism the same way religious people talk about their belief in God, that they absolutely know it's true. 0.99

02:45:34.000 It's kind of the same thing.

02:45:35.000 They're like, no, there's nothing.

02:45:36.000 I do not believe in God.

02:45:38.000 There's no evidence there's God.

02:45:39.000 I'm not that.

02:45:40.000 I'm just agnostic.

02:45:41.000 I'm kind of like, who am I to say?

02:45:44.000 What there is and isn't.

02:45:46.000 Yeah, I can appreciate that.

02:45:47.000 I think there's something going on.

02:45:49.000 Yeah, I think there's something going on that we're a part of that is too big for us to grasp. 0.97

02:45:54.000 Yeah, I think we're like a hand waving over a fucking earthworm and earthworm has no idea what's going on because I think it's too big.

02:46:01.000 I think just the idea of this Infinite space that we live in with who knows how many galaxies, and we're on this planet, and we're making babies, and you're cooking one up inside your body right now, and you're going on stage doing stand-up, and we're having an election, and we might have a nuclear war, 0.98

02:46:18.000 and all this shit is happening all throughout the universe, all over the place.

02:46:21.000 Not just here, but probably in an infinite number of planets everywhere. 0.98

02:46:25.000 The whole thing's too big.

02:46:27.000 And for you to say, there's no God, God's not real, it's like you have no idea.

02:46:32.000 You have no idea.

02:46:33.000 And by the way, the evidence of there being something that's forcing this in a general direction is overwhelming.

02:46:41.000 There's something that's – whether it's some natural properties like Brett Weinstein calls it Darwinian evolution, that it applies to everything and things get better and improve and evolve.

02:46:51.000 Yeah, but what is causing that?

02:46:53.000 What made that?

02:46:54.000 What is the overall force behind this whole thing?

02:46:58.000 What's its goal?

02:46:59.000 It seems to be moving in a general direction all the time, and that direction is like constant improvement of life forms, of societies, of technology. 0.99

02:47:09.000 It's moving in this fucking direction. 0.99

02:47:11.000 How do you know it's not God? 0.99

02:47:12.000 How do you know it's not the way God works?

02:47:14.000 How do you know the universe isn't God, and this is the way it expresses itself?

02:47:18.000 Yeah, the craziest, and this is the most normal thing to do is get pregnant, but it's the craziest trip I've ever had.

02:47:23.000 It has to be. 0.98

02:47:23.000 Like, all I did was have sex. 0.98

02:47:25.000 I didn't pick up a license, and now there's going to be a baby in my apartment. 0.97

02:47:29.000 And wait until you start talking to that baby. 1.00

02:47:30.000 That's what's going to be crazy.

02:47:32.000 This is going to be a human that's going to have opinions, and it's going to tell me no.

02:47:35.000 They're going to be mad at you. 0.99

02:47:36.000 Yeah, I'm going to be like, I didn't smoke any fucking cigs. 0.99

02:47:39.000 I smoked no cigs. 0.99

02:47:41.000 And now you're trying to tell me no? 1.00

02:47:43.000 I'm going to be like, I should have smoked a pack a day with your ass talking to me like that. 1.00

02:47:47.000 Yeah, but then they'll say, look, I didn't ask to be born. 1.00

02:47:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:47:50.000 Why'd you make me? 1.00

02:47:51.000 Stupid bitch. 1.00

02:47:52.000 You fucking did this! 1.00

02:47:53.000 It's your fault! 1.00

02:47:54.000 No matter what, the kid's going to find a way to hate you, right?

02:47:57.000 Sometimes.

02:47:57.000 They're going to find a way to...

02:47:59.000 I don't know.

02:48:00.000 But it's the craziest...

02:48:02.000 It's the craziest trip.

02:48:04.000 I'm always looking for meaning.

02:48:07.000 I want there to be something so badly.

02:48:09.000 I think we all do.

02:48:11.000 I really do.

02:48:11.000 I think that's why people like psychedelics.

02:48:14.000 It definitely can make you view the world in a different way.

02:48:18.000 The worst drug I ever did was Accutane.

02:48:22.000 It made me want to kill myself.

02:48:23.000 This was last summer.

02:48:25.000 I mean, I actually was suicidal.

02:48:27.000 I went off of it.

02:48:28.000 Multiple people in my life had that same situation.

02:48:31.000 The way more dangerous drug for me than shrooms, Accutane. 0.98

02:48:36.000 Andrew Santino, the hilarious comedian, talks about it.

02:48:39.000 He said it was one of the worst experiences of his life.

02:48:42.000 Me too.

02:48:43.000 My brain, I finally decided I was crying on the bathroom floor because I was going to die and everyone I know is going to die.

02:48:50.000 Oh my God.

02:48:51.000 And again, always been true. 0.63

02:48:52.000 Always been true.

02:48:53.000 My husband found me on the bathroom floor.

02:48:55.000 And I stopped taking it about a month before it worked out on my system.

02:48:59.000 And then I went back to normal.

02:49:00.000 But at that time, I was like, I've lost myself.

02:49:02.000 I'm never going to be myself again.

02:49:04.000 Whenever you have a medication and one of the side effects is suicidal ideation.

02:49:08.000 I know.

02:49:08.000 Those ones freak me out because they'll just say it real calm.

02:49:12.000 These people are holding hands and spinning around in a wheat field.

02:49:15.000 Suicidal ideation.

02:49:16.000 What?

02:49:17.000 Yeah.

02:49:18.000 I experienced that.

02:49:19.000 I experienced my brain being hijacked in a bad way by a drug for zits.

02:49:26.000 So crazy.

02:49:27.000 I was like, I'll just, and I was, you know, you can't drink on it.

02:49:30.000 So I was like, I was having these extreme reactions, stone cold sober. 0.99

02:49:33.000 But I was on the show sometimes and I would be so depressed and people would be email, I'm getting emails like, you're like acting like a bitch or you're this and that. 0.99

02:49:41.000 And it's like, no, no, no, you know, I want to kill myself. 0.99

02:49:43.000 I don't think I'm too good for people. 0.99

02:49:45.000 I want to kill myself.

02:49:45.000 And it's just scary.

02:49:46.000 It was very scary.

02:49:48.000 Well, I'm glad you got off it.

02:49:50.000 Yes.

02:49:51.000 That one I'm never doing again.

02:49:52.000 Yeah, that one's catchy.

02:49:53.000 Listen, Kat, I really enjoyed talking to you.

02:49:55.000 It was a lot of fun.

02:49:55.000 I really enjoyed talking to you, too.

02:49:56.000 It was really fun.

02:49:57.000 Let's do this again.

02:49:58.000 Yeah, thank you.

02:49:59.000 Tell everybody about your book one more time, please.

02:50:00.000 Do you have a copy of it here?

02:50:02.000 I have it outside. 0.99

02:50:03.000 I left all my shit outside. 0.99

02:50:04.000 No worries. 0.98

02:50:05.000 It's called I Used to Like You Until.

02:50:06.000 It's called I Used to Like You Until.

02:50:09.000 And it is all about how one single thing should not be enough to write another person off.

02:50:14.000 It's about independent thinking.

02:50:16.000 It's about connection.

02:50:17.000 And I spill a lot of tea on myself in the book.

02:50:21.000 I'm naked on the cover.

02:50:22.000 My body looks nothing like this anymore.

02:50:24.000 But covered in hate mail with the idea of vulnerability in the face of overwhelming hatred.

02:50:30.000 That's great.

02:50:31.000 So, I, you know, I had the idea of...

02:50:35.000 And you read it, too.

02:50:36.000 I did read the audiobook.

02:50:38.000 Fantastic.

02:50:38.000 Thank you.

02:50:38.000 I'm so happy you did that.

02:50:40.000 Yeah.

02:50:40.000 You have to.

02:50:41.000 I have a very distinctive voice.

02:50:42.000 Well, also, it's like, God, it's not that hard, folks.

02:50:46.000 Do it.

02:50:46.000 I'm talking about a lot of very personal things in the book.

02:50:49.000 You want some actor?

02:50:50.000 No.

02:50:51.000 What is a man?

02:50:52.000 You should get some old man to do your voice. 1.00

02:50:54.000 A British guy? 0.93

02:50:55.000 My first period.

02:50:56.000 Yeah.

02:50:57.000 Don't worry, that's not in the book.

02:51:00.000 Well, thank you, Kat.

02:51:01.000 Thank you for having me.

02:51:02.000 It was a lot of fun.

02:51:02.000 Me too.

02:51:02.000 I agree.

02:51:03.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - September 10, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2200 - Kat Timpf

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