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00:05:00.000But the doctors were like, you're dead, and what if he just decides I'm dead, and he starts freaking out, or maybe he goes to Oregon and gets assisted suicide.
00:05:07.000And so many people go down that path, right?
00:05:10.000They're whacking people left and right up in Canada.
00:08:10.000I mean, because I don't know anybody that's done it, with the exception of Michael, I don't know anybody that's done it in the case of, you know...
00:08:57.000And if you don't have support around you, you don't have someone that you can...
00:09:02.000That can pick you up, and it's crazy how someone can pick you up.
00:09:05.000It's crazy how you could be just feeling like total, complete shit, and someone who cares about you can come over to your house, take you out, have some laughs, and you're like, I think I feel better.
00:10:17.000Sometimes, I don't have it to that degree, but you're online for a while on something, and then you go into the real world, and you're like, oh yeah, I'm like...
00:10:27.000I was just living in this make-believe place for a while.
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00:13:08.000Let me tell you, before I say anything, I just want to say, whoever's helping her, whoever's coaching her, whoever's the puppet master running the strings...
00:13:42.000To me, when I was like, oh my god, this is jujitsu, where she was like, if you go to his rallies, his crowds are boring, they're tired, they all leave her, my crowds are the best crowds, I have the number one crowd, he couldn't help himself!
00:14:40.000He's not working with a team that's like, I mean, I know he's doing mock debates.
00:14:45.000I know he did one with, I think he did one with Tulsi Gabbard, but someone needs to tell him, you've got these tiny little windows and you should have all the words ready for those windows.
00:17:32.000And who knows what would have happened if you had four more years.
00:17:34.000Maybe we would have been economically better off, even if you don't like that one person to be like the figurehead of the country that you identify with because you live here.
00:17:42.000You don't want to identify with this guy that you think is blustery and, you know.
00:17:47.000Well, the thing is he's going to, you know, we have like 55 days or something.
00:17:51.000And the thing that's really going to happen now is I think he realizes that When she first was announced, I'm sure most people, myself included, were like, he's just going to destroy her.
00:18:02.000I didn't think she was even going to have a chance.
00:18:04.000But now you realize this is going to be, I believe, a much closer race.
00:18:27.000I think you get a bunch of poor people that are from an island where they occasionally eat cats, and you throw them in a city where there's 50,000 people, you throw 20,000 people in there, and there's ducks at the pond.
00:18:37.000I'm going to go get a duck if I'm hungry.
00:19:56.000But once they're in again, if they're in again, they'll probably do the same thing.
00:19:59.000Because what you're doing is you're essentially changing states that are swing states into blue.
00:20:04.000Because if you're going to give these people money, debit cards and food stamps, and let them come in, and they're even talking about gender reassignment surgeries?
00:20:34.000But, like, part of that, I mean, feels like you kind of need some of that interjecting because otherwise things are just said and And you have zero idea.
00:20:46.000I mean, the big one to me, this is why you need to have somebody interject at times, is when he said to her, like, you went and negotiated with Zelensky and Putin, and then just moves on.
00:20:58.000Well, if you're a regular person at home, you work and you take care of your family, you don't know the ins and outs of diplomacy and what's happening internationally.
00:21:06.000You hear that, and you just go, oh, I didn't know that.
00:21:09.000So you kind of have to have somebody go, wait a minute, you didn't negotiate with Putin.
00:22:11.000So there are people that believe that what she was wearing last night was the type of earring that they use for, um, it's like an, it's an earpiece.
00:25:06.000Like some extremists on either side that really do believe you're gonna take away the trans kids or really do believe you're gonna destroy the country from the inside.
00:25:24.000I don't know if that's what she's wearing.
00:25:25.000She might have just been wearing earrings.
00:25:27.000But if they have the kind of technology like that for regular people, and you could do that, and most people aren't aware of it, you can get it off because the ABC people aren't aware of it.
00:25:51.000But it just, whoever's pulling the strings, what a masterful job of propaganda they've done, taking someone that they all agreed was not a good vice president, was the least popular vice president.
00:26:02.000Nobody even fucking knew anything about her.
00:26:23.000It's going to come down in these key states to just county by county.
00:26:27.000It's going to be like, you know, where you're going to, hour to hour, you're going to see this county turn in, and it's red, and it goes up, and then the blue county, it's really going to be in PA, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Nevada, Arizona.
00:26:41.000And then you've got this million ballots.
00:26:58.000And also vote in person with a fucking ID. We just got through three fucking years of you have to have a vaccine passport in order to get food.
00:27:07.000Right, and you don't have to show your ID. You have to be able to show an ID and show that you're vaccinated to get on an airplane.
00:27:14.000And now all of a sudden it's racist to say that you want voter ID. No, I think it's insane.
00:27:19.000There's only one reason to do it that way.
00:27:21.000There's two things that are going on simultaneously.
00:27:23.000You're letting in literally millions of people Millions of people.
00:27:28.000And you're giving them all these services, for sure.
00:27:32.000There's all this talk about they gave them money, and there was all these stories about people getting debit cards and food stamps and all this money, and then they're putting them up in hotels in New York City, and they're giving them free food.
00:27:45.000And then there's people that are poor that live in America.
00:27:47.000They're like, hey, why am I not getting that?
00:27:50.000Well, because they already have your vote.
00:27:51.000They've already tricked you into voting specifically for this one party.
00:27:55.000So now, if you bring in millions and millions of people, and then the same people that want to bring these people in, or that are allowing, their policies that are allowing these people to come in, are the same people that think voter ID is racist.
00:28:09.000You're racist saying voter ID is racist, by the way.
00:29:45.000We're so far from that that people don't even give a fuck about what the policy is.
00:29:49.000They're just committed to their side, and anything their side does that's kind of fucked up or twisted, they'll gaslight you on it, then they'll say it's not that big of a deal, and then they'll tell you it's good that that's happening.
00:30:37.000The left, no one is eating people's pets, which means we're one week away from why do you care that people are eating pets, three weeks from why eating pets is a good thing, and four weeks from refusing to eat pets is white supremacy.
00:31:25.000I don't know if he still does this, and I've heard other people do this, but I remember when DiStefano told me that he was like a year or so ago.
00:31:32.000He's like, it's fucking with my happiness.
00:31:35.000And then he gave somebody his login stuff.
00:33:08.000I get to see on my Instagram executions, a lot of Russian car accidents and manufacturing mishaps, people getting electrocuted, hit by trains, and straight up just gun to the head,
00:34:00.000It's always been this thing in America, like one of the big European versus American differences is that we always had this holier-than-thou reaction to the naked body and just sex in general,
00:34:17.000Like there's a topless person or a lovemaking scene and people are like, you know, either this is NC-17 or, you know, but we can have someone like a grenade in a guy's mouth and they're like, yeah, well, that's on fucking TNT today.
00:34:32.000Well, how is it getting through Instagram's filters?
00:35:46.000And the war footage, the drone footage, was just like...
00:35:51.000I saw one yesterday where this drone, a kamikaze drone, was coming after these guys and they were shooting at it with AKs and they couldn't take it down.
00:36:14.000I think being able to see those, I will say this, gives you like a very sobering perspective on modern day war.
00:36:24.000Because that's obviously, you know, that wasn't a thing in Vietnam or World War II. But like the fact that you see these guys out in a field, you know, whatever side they're on.
00:36:34.000I'm just talking about the reality of these human beings.
00:36:38.000And then this fucking drone with a camera is chasing them down.
00:37:48.000Yeah, if you saw my feed, if I was like being arrested for being a serial killer and they had to look at his social media, like, look at his algorithm.
00:38:05.000I go to bed, and I always put on biographies.
00:38:09.000It's either war, a serial killer, or it's a scripted show about a murder.
00:38:15.000It's the only thing that it engages that I find enticing and exciting to watch are either real stories about horrible things, or I like suspense.
00:38:27.000I like that genre, so I'm just always watching it.
00:38:29.000Well, it's always interesting just psychologically to see, like, what the fuck, you know, like you're watching something on Richard Ramirez or something like that.
00:39:19.000I mean, and also the way that Now, because I've watched docs on those very things recently, like the latest one, the latest Nazi one, because at some point I'm also like, are they ever just going to be like, I think we've covered it with Hitler?
00:40:37.000But, yeah, I mean, I get that at night, too, because you kind of go like, especially, you know, I mean, it was highlighted, I think, even in the debate.
00:40:45.000And so it is a very valid point, which is that, you know, you just don't know what's going to happen in any war.
00:40:52.000But, you know, when you have Russia involved in this war, you do have a country with thousands of nukes.
00:41:19.000Yeah, you don't know what that is, and you don't know why it's happening.
00:41:23.000You know, you hear about NATO moving their arms closer to Russia, and you know that there was a coup that was probably facilitated by the United States in 2014, and it's like, fuck, man.
00:41:35.000Like, all this monkeying with shit overseas scares the fuck out of me, man.
00:41:41.000Every day, there could be some new thing popping off somewhere in the world, and you're like, That's another one, the turning point doc about the history of the Cold War.
00:41:49.000And when you realize how the nuke programs evolved and how in the 60s...
00:42:00.000When Bay of Pigs and all that was happening, we thought, because they postured, like, we can fucking take you guys down, too.
00:42:10.000And we ended up discovering later that they had like seven bombs, and we had like 10,000 at the time.
00:42:58.000And then the other thing was that during the Reagan administration, they kind of like forced the Russians into trying to keep up with us militarily, which kind of bankrupt the Soviet Union.
00:43:30.000And then them, like China, what's interesting, what China has done is China has developed this sort of They have capitalism and communism, which is the way to do it.
00:43:41.000Like, you get people motivated to make a lot of money, industries get huge, but everything is completely tied into the government, which is like, oh, we nailed it.
00:43:58.000This is what's scary about what's going on in this country, is there's some people that have the notion that in order for us to compete with these other countries, we have to govern people in a more similar way than they do.
00:44:07.000They have to have more control over information, more control over what people say and do, more control over money.
00:44:14.000You know, China now has centralized digital currency in some places, which is...
00:46:03.000Well, you know the story about Michael Hastings, right?
00:46:07.000Michael Hastings was the reporter for Rolling Stone.
00:46:10.000This is what they list for stolen vehicles.
00:46:12.000Can police use OnStar to disable a car?
00:46:14.000If the vehicle's parked and turned off, the OnStar advisor can use remote ignition block to prevent the engine from being restarted, allowing the police to recover the vehicle.
00:46:51.000Disable engine and end high-speed chases so it can.
00:46:55.000Satellite technology that could disable an engine with a simple push of a button helped end the high-speed chase of a stolen sports utility vehicle in La Porte, resulting in the arrest of Mishawaka Man.
00:47:16.000And they're looking at it like it's a good thing because it is a good thing because this guy was a crazy person.
00:47:21.000Reckless driving, other counts, resisting law enforcement, running from the cops.
00:47:25.000But it's kind of crazy that they could just press a button.
00:47:29.000So maybe it's something that you didn't really do.
00:47:31.000Maybe you're a whistleblower for some chemical company that's done something that's illegal and then...
00:47:37.000People don't want you to, you're going to crash the stock market, and you're on the run, and they know he's got the papers on him, find that fuck.
00:47:45.000And they just, boom, slow your Cadillac down.
00:47:57.000Our elected officials were all super enlightened beings that were different than human beings and that only did things according to ethics and rules and morals and knew what was right and what was wrong.
00:48:28.000But what about someone who's corrupt, who's got a hold of that technology, and they're tracking their ex-wife because she's going to testify against them, and they have her whacked.
00:48:43.000And then if there's no record of it, if you just got some sort of computer and you can just fucking slow down someone's car and then the hitman catches up to him, guns are down or whatever.
00:50:44.000He was just like, well, you know we listen to you.
00:50:46.000Have you ever done an experiment where all your apps are closed and you just start talking about something and see if Google picks that up?
00:52:10.000And also, when you think about high school baseball, you realize that pitching at that level, you're a real outlier if you get above 90 miles an hour.
00:52:19.000Because there's some high school kids...
00:52:20.000They can pitch like 80, 85. When you start getting high school kids pitching above 90, you're talking about an elite level.
00:54:06.000One guy has done it a bunch of times at 105, and a few people have joined him in the 105, but no one's cracked 106. That must be so fast coming at you.
00:58:30.000Well, if you think about it, what creatine does, like, Google exactly what creatine does so I don't fuck this up, but what I think it does essentially is it allows your body to hold on to more water.
00:59:41.000It makes a difference in your workouts, but what I think, I try to take as many things as possible that are good for cognitive performance, you know.
00:59:49.000Obviously, like doing a podcast, you need that.
00:59:53.000Creatine is an osmotically active substance, thus any increase in the body's CR content, creatine content, should result in increased water retention and consequent gains in body mass.
01:00:05.000Well, I knew about the water retention and that it was a verified to have, like, it's one of the supplements that you can count on for gains.
01:00:23.000You know, it's been used as a muscle supplement since like the 90s or been popular since the 90s.
01:00:29.000Jamie, what does it say about, because there was some sort of a study about creatine supplementation to enhance performance with sleep deprivation?
01:00:41.000Because there was this study that was showing that, you know, your cognitive performance when you just have like four or five hours sleep drops off a cliff.
01:00:55.000A single high dose of creatine can temporarily improve cognitive performance during sleep deprivation.
01:01:00.000This is due to creatine's ability to prevent a drop in pH level, improve processing speed, increase intercellular energy consumption, and increase high extracellular creatine availability.
01:03:24.000I can't believe I'm bringing it up again, but that book over there, Blitzed, is a Norman Ohler book about the Nazis during the Blitzkrieg campaign.
01:07:11.000I just drove the new 750S. It's fucking phenomenal.
01:07:16.000But they're making cars that just a rich knucklehead can buy that has the most insane speed and power.
01:07:25.000I've driven, like I said, a lot of the lineup.
01:07:28.000When I drove the 765LT... I remember talking to, at the time he was with McLaren in F1, Daniel Ricciardo, and I was like, dude, I just drove this fucking thing.
01:07:41.000And I've never, I've been driven a lot of cars.
01:07:45.000I've never been more scared of what could happen in a car.
01:07:49.000You know, I was just, I was driving down the 110 and we were doing like 70 and it was just open road and I had somebody in the passenger seat and he was like, punch it.
01:07:59.000And I mean, in the blink of an eye, we're going 130 and it's just like, it's so fast and so responsive, you know, the slightest input.
01:08:10.000And I was like, this is a, it was a scary feeling where I go, I want to hand this in, like I want to turn this in right now and I also want to order one.
01:08:19.000Both things were like, I know this is bad for me, but can I get some more Vyvanse?
01:10:40.000Turns around the gauge cluster, so the gauge cluster maintains in the center of the wheel, and your steering wheel turns around it and it never moves.
01:12:19.000I mean, it's like, what will be around in 20 years?
01:12:22.000Because I've got to say, when Bugatti, Pagani, and Kona, when they do these things, I always think this is outrageous, but I'm also like, it's so cool that you have a spaceship.
01:17:56.000The problem with some of these faster cars that I have and that exist is that a lot of times when you take them out, you're like, yeah, I'm not really getting to drive this thing.
01:24:28.000They change the seats on this new, and it's not as good, or they'll talk about the suspense, and they'll give you the insight that if you're really thinking about getting that car, you go like, oh, maybe I want the previous generation.
01:27:25.000So they're just going over all the things that they massaged and changed on the car and all the details where you get a sense of what it looks like.
01:32:24.000There's something weird about, even though these get obviously very expensive, I've always felt like it's a more accessible to the world car than other supercars.
01:34:09.000It was crazy, because in the beginning, I didn't even want to do it.
01:34:12.000When he was trying to get him, because I had already worked for the UFC in the past, from 97 to 98. I did post-fight interviews, and I was like, I'm out.
01:34:21.000And then they bought it in 2001, and he was trying to talk me into working for them.
01:34:48.000I told him the story about how when I would go with you on these weekends, and I'm like, you know, just like as a fan of sports and broadcasting, I was like, so where's like your prep book?
01:34:59.000You know, like, and you're like, it's all up here.
01:35:00.000And I'm like, what are you talking about?
01:38:01.000When I would watch the El Clásico, the Madrid-Barcelona game, at the height of these guys' club powers 10 years ago, you're watching such a high-stakes, high-level game, you can have zero interest, and you're like, holy shit, this is so incredible.
01:38:17.000And I think that and Premier League stuff...
01:38:23.000It kind of drifted over to the point where we're like, hey, soccer's been played here forever.
01:38:29.000It just didn't have that same popularity.
01:38:31.000But this MLS stuff has continued to grow and grow.
01:38:34.000I remember Saturday mornings during our football season, a lot of times you're putting it on now and you'll see...
01:38:43.000Soccer games, like, from the Premier League was on NBC for a while.
01:38:47.000I don't know if they still have that contract, but here you go.
01:38:51.000But, like, it just has, and they keep getting, you know, better talent on the state side that I think we'll continue to see it.
01:44:05.000Yeah, he goes, he does it, and then, you know, what'll happen is, like, so he's, like, whatever, real crazy right now, and we'll see him in, like, a month, and he'll be like...
01:45:49.000Yep, and then dinner I'll have 16 to 20 ounces of lean protein, like sea bass, salmon, sometimes I'll have leaner red meats, greens, fruit.
01:46:02.000You got someone organizing this for you, or are you just doing it yourself?
01:46:06.000I did it because I'm shooting my show next month, and I was like three months out, and I was like, fuck, if I don't dial it in right now, I'm going to show up.
01:51:14.000But a lot of people think that part of the thing that's going on with people, they say they're glucose or gluten intolerant, that what's actually, it's not gluten that's fucking with them, it's glyphosate.
01:52:35.000Some people just can't control themselves.
01:52:38.000They just don't they don't have a history of controlling themselves and so they just don't they just eat I Mean bro, I remember Ralphie Mae We one time we we all left the comedy store and we went to a bar it was Stan Hope me and a couple other comics and Ralphie It was Joey and Ralphie was gonna meet us there.
01:52:56.000There was this bar that Stan Hope used to like in Hollywood back in the day before Hollywood was a zombie movie and so Ralphie Doesn't show up.
01:53:11.000And we're sitting outside and no Ralphie for a long-ass time.
01:53:15.000And then all of a sudden, like an hour later, Ralphie shows up.
01:53:18.000And Ralphie's back seat was just filled with rappers.
01:53:23.000So this poor guy was so addicted that he couldn't get in his car and drive from the Comedy Store to this bar, which was like two miles away.
01:56:12.000Your body will like put it out of your mind.
01:56:14.000But there's like this discomfort you have the whole time where you're standing there.
01:56:18.000I'm like, I'm gonna be out here for a fucking hour.
01:56:19.000I did it once where I ran off stage and I, you know, the mothership, the way I gotta go all the way up, I had to go all the way upstairs and just so hard.
02:00:15.000I'm like, fuck, and the massage definitely helps, but spending a little time every day working on hamstring stretches has definitely helped me.
02:02:30.000The reason why I really like the Tibbar guy one and the Mr. Infinity one is that you can change the angle of it.
02:02:37.000So instead of starting flat, like the Rogue one that we have outside, you start completely flat.
02:02:41.000And in the beginning, I had to help myself.
02:02:44.000I had to, like, what I would do is I'd put two fingers down and give myself a little push with the fingers and then complete the reps of my hamstring and then try to lower myself as much as I could and then catch it.
02:03:21.000You could use it to do reverse hypers.
02:03:24.000Really top-notch stuff and the angle change is huge because you started off give yourself a little bit of an angle So you're already like halfway through the rep and it's much easier and then lower it a little bit and then and then eventually you get to flat Over time.
02:03:53.000And then they have a new one, the Monkey Feet Pro, but they have the plates already built into it, and so you can slide a pin out, you know, like those...
02:05:27.000And I'm like, look, all I got to do, I just don't want to get into working on production and just go into zero, because I'll feel like shit too.
02:05:40.000This whole idea that I'm going to shoot all day and then at the end of the day you're prepping for the next day and I'm going to go work out now at like 9.30.
02:08:24.000So we shoot them, and then when we have them, we're like, well, this kind of is like a show now.
02:08:32.000It's like an old Twilight Zone, where it's just like, here's a short story.
02:08:37.000So then we went back to a white cycle, like a soundstage.
02:08:40.000And I shot an introduction to the, like I'm the host of a show.
02:08:44.000And then the idea was, you remember I built like, during the pandemic, this pay-per-view kind of website, you know, where people could buy tickets to like live podcasts.
02:08:56.000We'll cut this together, and then this will be the first ticketed pay-per-view event that is a scripted, written show, as opposed to a live podcast, which I was really excited by.
02:09:47.000So now we spent time obviously in the writer's room writing six episodes worth of these.
02:09:54.000And each one, each episode will have like a theme and then short stories that are dark, like twisted, fucked up stories with a comedic theme.
02:10:15.000I like I say like the best way to describe it is it's kind of a comedic black mirror.
02:10:21.000Short stories that are twisted that have a comedic tone.
02:10:26.000So do you have the whole, first of all, you really like to be busy.
02:13:45.000At first I was like, I'm going to do this one time, and I'm never going to fucking do this again, because this is a ridiculous idea to be able to do something live to millions of people on Netflix.
02:15:01.000I think if a comic is going to put out a special, it should be that comic special, and what that comic thinks should be on that special, and that's it.
02:16:35.000Because what ends up happening, the way to really, I think, handle it is you listen to all of them, but you also have to be able to go, I hear what you're saying on this, and I totally disagree.
02:16:47.000It's hard to do when you're starting out.
02:17:04.000But could you imagine if you decided that doing your mom's house was too difficult so you're going to bring in some Hollywood executives to help you?
02:19:06.000An angle with which people are seeing this through, and he understands the humor in it, but it's based in, for him, an authentic point of view, for sure.
02:19:16.000So he's trying to get straight guys to do gay stuff?
02:19:18.000He would say it's fucking gayer to not do that stuff.
02:23:48.000If you were like, what's the decadent thing you kind of want to indulge in where I'm like, When it's done well, I don't know that anything makes me happier than fried chicken.
02:23:59.000Fried chicken at Roscoe's with waffles, with butter and syrup, and you get a little piece of the chicken, a little piece of the waffle.
02:27:00.000I do it like 225 degrees and get it up to like 134 internal and then pull it.
02:27:06.000But as long as you don't overcook it, because they do add like a little bit of pork fat when they make it for me, because I get it prepared at like a butcher shop.
02:28:16.000The thing about the real offset smoker, it's much more of a pain in the ass, but there's certain sugars that you get from the wood, the wood itself, like a real piece of mesquite, a real piece of post oak, and you set a little fire underneath there with little sticks and you get it built up,
02:28:33.000and then you dial it in with the dampers.
02:28:41.000You know, I get so seduced by these videos of people doing things, and I found this, I forget what company it is, makes this Argentine grill.