On this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the host talks to his good friend and former co-worker, former Navy SEAL Art Bell, about all kinds of crazy stuff, including UFOs, aliens, super volcanoes, and more. Art Bell is a retired United States Navy SEAL who served with the elite United States Air Force Special Operations Command and served as a member of the elite SEAL Team Six and the elite Air Force Intelligence Defeat Group. He has been described as the most dangerous SEAL in the history of SEAL Teams, and is considered one of the most elite elite operators in the United States military. Art is also a regular contributor to the New York Times and has been featured in the New Yorker, the Hollywood Reporter, and the Los Angeles Daily News, as well as many other publications. He is a frequent guest host on Conspiracy Theories and hosts the Conspiracy Theory podcast, and has his own show on Comedy Central's Late Night with Seth Meyers, where he talks about all sorts of conspiracy theories, including UFO's, extraterrestrials, and alien abductions, among other things. Joe and Art discuss all things related to UFOs and extraterrestrial life, and what it means to be a believer in the things we know and don't know about them, and how to deal with them. We also talk about what it's like dating someone with a top-secret security clearance, and whether or not you should trust someone with that kind of information, and if it's a good idea to look up UFOs, or not to trust it, and find out if they have access to the information they're telling you about it, or if you're looking up UFOs. or not. Thanks for listening to this episode, Joe! You're awesome, and thanks for tuning in! -Jon and Alex! Jon and Alex <3 . Jon Tom - Jake Joe Sarah ( ) Evan Mike Matt Michael Brian Chad John Chris Jack Jason Tim Chet Kevin Steve Emily Justin David Sam What's your favorite part of the podcast? Is it a good one? Can you tell us what you think of it? (and do you think it's better than the other one??)
00:04:02.000As an older man, I look back and go, well, if you have some kid, you know, she was basically my age, she's probably 24 as well, and you're having this kid work in these terminals that has access to top secret information and they have clearance.
00:04:18.000I would say, hey, maybe you shouldn't be just looking up shit randomly.
00:04:25.000You know, it doesn't seem like everything's so compartmentalized in government, and especially at that kind of classified, whatever, security clearance level.
00:05:23.000I don't know who could actually say it other than the people that have read those papers.
00:05:29.000You know, who knows what they, you know, the president is basically a part-time employee.
00:05:35.000Not a part-time employee, but a short-term employee.
00:05:38.000You know, if you've got a long-running business, and for some technicality, every now and then you have to bring in some fucking CEO, and he does a four-year term, and then hopefully he can finagle it so he gets another four-year term, if he's playing by the rules, and you just bring him in.
00:06:19.000I think there's a lot of us, and it was me at one point in time, and I've gotten more educated about it, a lot of us are very ignorant about what we're doing to our bodies with food and with medications.
00:06:29.000And I don't think we're being told the truth.
00:06:33.000And I think there's a reason why other countries Multiple other countries have banned food elements, food, like, ingredients that we use all the time.
00:06:42.000These red dyes, all these different – and this was all – there was just a recent thing that they did.
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00:08:51.000They had all these health experts testify and they were all hammering this point over and over again.
00:08:56.000They were talking about the food additives, they were talking about glyphosate and how fucking dangerous glyphosate is and like an enormous percentage of people show traces of glyphosate in their blood.
00:09:06.000We're getting it through all kinds of vegetables.
00:09:09.000We're ubiquitously sprayed on monocrop agriculture crops.
00:09:12.000We're all just consuming these poisons.
00:09:14.000There's no reason to have fluoride in the water.
00:09:27.000And there's like real data that shows that high levels of fluoride in water lowers IQ. The higher the fluoride is in water in certain areas, they can see a measurable dip in people's IQs.
00:10:20.000All right, we just did an ad for them.
00:10:22.000Good for them, though, but that's what people need.
00:10:25.000I think if RFK gets into office, he will expose a lot of this stuff, just like he did when he was an environmental attorney.
00:10:32.000You know, people think of him as just a vaccine kook.
00:10:34.000Listen, you've got to look at that guy's – the history of that guy's work has all been about protecting people from corporations that are poisoning them.
00:10:44.000That's literally what that guy did his whole career.
00:10:47.000And if he can do that with health, particularly with things that we can avoid.
00:10:51.000Look, one of the things they demonstrated is that Lucky Charms, as sold in the United States, they don't sell the same one in Canada.
00:10:57.000In Canada, the dyes that we use to make it all pretty and exciting for kids, they don't allow that because it's fucking toxic.
00:11:03.000So we allow it, which means someone's corrupt.
00:11:18.000Heavily influenced by relationships that these people have with CEOs in these corporations and the boards of executives and this weird little revolving door between the FDA and the CDC and all these different organizations.
00:11:36.000And then they leave and then they get this amazing job working for some huge corporation that they were helping regulate just a few years ago.
00:11:59.000But it took a long time before I got to that.
00:12:02.000It took a long time before I really understood, like, why do we think that saturated fat is bad?
00:12:06.000Oh, it was a lie by the sugar companies.
00:12:09.000Okay, why do people tell you that vitamin supplementation doesn't really help and you just need a balanced diet?
00:12:14.000Oh, because doctors don't know jack shit about nutrition and that you're going to a guy who literally knows less than you because he went to medical school for how to fix knees or whatever the fuck he specialized in and you're taking this guy's advice and he doesn't know anything about nutrition.
00:12:33.000He's got fucking bills piling in, and he's bringing people and shuffling them through the office, and he's worried about his, you have insurance in case you fuck up, malpractice insurance, and you have to pay your medical school bills, and those guys are barely getting,
00:13:40.000According to the 2017 study, which is probably worse now, about one-third of drugs approved by the FDA within a 10-year period receive alerts, warnings, or recalls in the years following their approval.
00:14:04.000Jamie, go to his page and find the most recent one.
00:14:08.000Because the most recent one is fascinating.
00:14:10.000Because the most recent one, this guy is openly talking about how monkeypox is not really a threat, but they're trying to present it as a threat so they can sell this medication.
00:15:51.000I saved it on my phone because I was like, this is just so bonkers.
00:15:54.000That these people are having conversations in public and openly admitting that they're trying to push people into taking drugs that don't even work.
00:17:29.000So that's why spinning it in the media is helpful.
00:17:32.000We want the FDA to approve our drugs specifically for monkeypox, and right now it's only considered experimental, and they won't approve it, he said.
00:17:39.000And the USTPOX is not approved by the FDA for treatment of MPOX, but can be used to treat patients as part of a clinical trial known as the study of technovirumat For human Mpox virus, according to Cigna Technologies.
00:17:54.000The company's website added that the STOMP trial is being conducted to evaluate the efficacy of TPox for the treatment of Mpox.
00:18:03.000Varna then griped at the video film on August 14th that his then-employer is stuck with our drug, but the people aren't going to be as confident in it because the data doesn't look as strong as it should.
00:18:14.000And so then later he starts talking about the stock prices.
00:18:18.000So he says sometimes you do a study and this fucking nothing works at all or people get really sick from it, he said in the covert recording.
00:18:25.000The problem is if you do another study, it'll take a year or two to do it because you have to get the ethics approval, you got to get the money, you got to get the patients to come in.
00:18:34.000In the videos, Varma then gloated about how he knows the reporters well and referenced a September interview with New York Times on MPOX, which touted the TPOX as a drug used to treat MPOX infection.
00:18:46.000He also described the World Health Organization's emergency authorization process before explaining how he wants the media to report on TPOCs.
00:18:53.000So he was talking, one of the things in the video, he was talking about stock prices.
00:18:59.000So they're talking about making it look like these drugs do better than they do, getting people to prescribe them.
00:19:09.000So basically, what we're trying to get the media to say is, oh, the drug didn't work because it was designed the wrong way, so they're gonna do another study, and it'll probably work.
00:19:17.000And in the meantime, people just prescribe it as an emergency drug.
00:19:21.000That's what we want the story to be, which is wild to say out loud.
00:19:25.000And he said, the risk of MPOC spreading in the US is very low, and it's almost certainly going to stay among gay men.
00:19:32.000Yeah, so it's all just, it's supposedly only, like, I don't think in America, like, I think four people have died from it, which is, you gotta go hard.
00:20:01.000Oh, so Crowder got him on camera saying that he was doing Molly and partying and saying, I hope somebody doesn't see me doing this because I could get in real trouble because, you know, obviously I... Reinforce the lockdowns.
00:21:21.000And they were talking about these Kamala Harris rallies, about how organized they are.
00:21:25.000These people are coming in on buses, and many of them have been to multiple rallies, and that When this one local one, like 80% of the people came from somewhere else.
00:23:04.000Most of them, or sometimes you let fans do it for like a very popular show, but I have personally been on a lot of shows where the audience is paid.
00:23:13.000It's basically like if you're filming a sitcom, and nobody knows what the sitcom is, There's a company that you can hire and you pay the audience to come in.
00:23:37.000They could do that same strategy for a political rally easily.
00:23:42.000If you're talking about all the money that you're going to be in control of when you are the President of the United States, which is a spectacular position, not just that, but then all the money you're going to make in appearances forever,
00:24:16.000Well, I think we have very loose rules on what you're allowed to do and what you're not allowed to do.
00:24:21.000There was a lot of outrage because people were saying that ABC somehow or another had gotten the subject matter to Kamala and that they had agreed to Kamala that they were not going to ask her about her DA record when she was in California and that they were not going to talk about some other person she was involved with that might be in trouble.
00:24:43.000And they weren't going to fact check her.
00:24:45.000And then they said they were only going to fact check Donald Trump.
00:24:50.000Which is what led to her saying quite a few things that weren't true and no one said anything about it, particularly about troops being deployed overseas.
00:28:18.000According to this, it says that this started with a claim that there was an affidavit, but I don't know that it's ever been actually presented to anyone.
00:29:03.000Vance addressed the supposed whistleblower's allegations with reporters saying it should be a national scandal if true.
00:29:10.000Trump again mentioned the whistleblower September 13th at a rally in Las Vegas claiming that Harris had received the debate questions in advance.
00:29:16.000Fortunately, we had a leaker or a whistleblower.
00:29:21.000The way he talks is such a Trump statement.
00:29:26.000Representative Dan Mauser Muser in Pennsylvania sent a Fox News interview that he would try to bring in ABC News and the whistleblower before Congress to testify about the affidavit.
00:29:37.000They said that the person who did it was killed in a car crash, and that seems to be false.
00:29:42.000Yeah, that was amplified by Marjorie Taylor Greene, who also doesn't do herself any favors.
00:30:00.000I think they do stuff like that where they'll throw out a fake story and get people to share it without looking into it at all, and it turns out to be complete horseshit, and it makes the whole thing look like horseshit now.
00:30:12.000Now it makes the affidavit, it's at least connected to horseshit.
00:31:18.000But that's the most important part about getting the job.
00:31:21.000I just want to hear how they're going to accomplish all this stuff.
00:31:25.000Well, they're going to do it once they get in, even though they're already in.
00:31:28.000That seems to be the typical response, right?
00:31:31.000Well, one thing that you can see really clearly is there is a ferocious effort to stop Donald Trump from becoming president again that I've never seen before.
00:32:50.000You throw one out there like that and then people retweet it and those people look stupid because you retweeted something dumb and then it just weakens the public's faith in what you have to say about things and also makes the story look stupid.
00:33:05.000Like, that story about that whistleblower will forever be connected to people retweeting the fact that he died in a car accident, even though he didn't die in a car accident.
00:33:13.000So it's always going to be shrouded in bullshit.
00:33:28.000When you're seeing the manipulation just in full bloom, just marching down the street in front of everybody and no one's freaking out about it, that's what's really weird.
00:33:39.000I mean, have you thought about who's behind all these assassination attempts?
00:33:45.000Do you think they're lone wolves or...?
00:33:47.000Well, was it Matt Gaetz that was saying that he's been informed that there's five different kill teams looking for Trump in the country right now?
00:35:22.000If that guy's telling the truth, and they really are just sort of manipulating this and putting on theater, that's a big difference between what's happening with Trump.
00:36:15.000So Elon buys Twitter, releases the Twitter files.
00:36:18.000Michael Schellenberger, Matt Taibbi and all those journalists, they all uncover all these different aspects that's super disturbing and totally illegal.
00:36:51.000So this is Matt Gaetz talking about this.
00:36:54.000But I think that if that hadn't happened, so if all of social media remained like staunch leftist, left wing, just giving completely into whatever propaganda the government wants to give them regarding vaccines or Ukraine or anything else with no Critical arguments about it that are accepted.
00:37:21.000Anybody who doesn't follow the narrative, especially people like, you know, they censored people from Stanford and MIT. They were trying to tell them to pull those guys, like Jay Bhattacharya.
00:37:37.000Censoring, like, legitimate experts in the field who aren't kooks, guys like Peter McCullough, who's the most published doctor in his field of study in human history.
00:37:49.000And they're like, no, no, you're a kook.
00:38:09.000Because if they had the clamps on Twitter, and they did the same thing with Twitter that they're doing right now with other social media apps, it would be fucking awful out there.
00:39:05.000Anybody on YouTube, I mean, you have to, like, parse your words.
00:39:08.000You know, like, Jimmy Dore, even when he's criticizing the vaccine, he's like, but you should take the vaccine because it's safe and effective.
00:39:14.000He always has to say it, like, to cover his ass.
00:40:35.000So what they're trying to do, essentially, is get you to fall in line by getting you to self-censor because it benefits you financially.
00:40:45.000It's a creepy form of censorship because you do it to yourself and it's kind of okay because you can't really prove that they got you to not talk about things you wanted to talk about and they can't really prove that you've followed this public narrative just because you want to keep your job.
00:41:05.000I mean, you know what really bothers me is We both put a lot into this, you know?
00:41:15.000And what bothers me, it's like, just tell me what you want me to take out.
00:43:31.000And some platforms make you do like a re-education thing where you have to talk to them.
00:43:37.000And have conversations with them about what you did that may have been offensive or what you did that may have violated the terms and conditions that they have for their community.
00:45:06.000But it's also a tool for shaping narratives.
00:45:11.000And if only one narrative is pushed out there and other narratives will literally get you demonetized so you lose your ability to make a living and then possibly get your whole channel removed, which it did to many people.
00:45:24.000They just removed their whole channel.
00:45:27.000I mean, where do you think this is going to end?
00:45:37.000Because, look, if you want to have standards where you say that the advertisers that we have – we have a group of advertisers and they have requested – No shows where someone swears.
00:45:50.000No shows where someone talks about sex.
00:45:53.000No shows where someone talks about over-drinking or anything like that.
00:46:02.000But when you want to stop a channel from uploading a video because they're making an argument that maybe the lab leak hypothesis is legitimate.
00:47:06.000Because you should, especially some of these people are very informed people.
00:47:10.000They were biologists, and they were talking about the very specific design of this virus, the fairing cleavage sites, and how it's very different than anything you see from a natural spillover.
00:47:20.000They were talking about technical, very specific details, and they were getting banned.
00:47:25.000Brett Weinstein almost lost his channel.
00:48:21.000That's what it's probably going to be, if I had to guess.
00:48:26.000For places like Rumble, the more places like YouTube and Facebook and all these other places, the more they can find people and the more they force people into these boxes and make people toe the line if they want to make any money off of advertising or if they don't want to get their channel deleted.
00:48:43.000The more companies like Rumble will emerge.
00:48:48.000Right now, Rumble's a hard sell for some folks, because they see it as like, oh, it's a right-wing fucking, like a MAGA. I'm not going on Truth Social.
00:49:30.000And the more we have platforms where that stuff is just free, where you can just say whatever you want, say whatever you think about anything, which really X and Rumble are the only places that I know of that you could really do that right now.
00:49:43.000Have you had any problem on audio at all?
00:50:29.000You know, she's openly discussed that the same rules have to apply to Facebook, they have to apply to Twitter, and that Elon Musk could lose his privileges.
00:50:36.000There's so many wild things that they're saying.
00:50:39.000Tim Walz said that the First Amendment doesn't apply to misinformation or hate speech.
00:50:47.000You know, sometimes people say things wrong, and the goal of the First Amendment is you say something wrong, and then this guy who's an expert says the right thing.
00:51:59.000But there's also people that are scared of a negative response so they say what everybody wants them to say.
00:52:07.000Somebody described this really very eloquently, and I saved it on my phone because I was like, this guy nailed it.
00:52:13.000But essentially they were saying, especially with beta males, they don't say something because they have an opinion and they really want to express that opinion.
00:52:22.000They say something and they consider, am I going to get in trouble if I say this?
00:52:28.000And then if that's the case, they don't.
00:52:31.000And am I going to get in trouble if I agree with them?
00:52:35.000And probably not, because right-wing people don't really go after you the same way left-wing people do.
00:52:40.000Like if you want to talk about like a woman's right to choose.
00:52:42.000If you want to say, I agree with a woman's right to choose, but like Bill Burr's bit, you ever see that bit?
00:52:47.000And he goes, I think I agree with a woman's right to choose, but I also think you're killing a baby.
00:53:03.000I mean, factually, that is what it is.
00:53:05.000And this is coming from someone who's pro-choice.
00:53:08.000But I think that if you You know, if you look at all the things that they have that distract us, all the different things that are in the news constantly, whether it's the Diddy raid or fucking J.Lo and Ben Affleck are breaking up,
00:53:24.000and you're just getting force-fed all kinds of shit while the border is wide open, while they have apps where people can get flights.
00:53:59.000He was one of the original guys at Facebook.
00:54:01.000And he's this Guy who did it the right way and every step of the way there was this tremendous anxiety when he would go to get his visa renewed because he didn't know if he was going to get kicked out of the country because someone could arbitrarily go, no, not good enough.
00:54:15.000Because he had to prove to be here that he has skills that an American doesn't have.
00:54:23.000You know, I went down to the border about, I think it was about two years ago-ish, maybe a little longer, and I went down with Ed Calderon.
00:55:46.000Why don't you just unfuck the immigration process and maybe we can get some more people in here quicker, legally, if you do that, and then we actually know who's coming in and we have documentation of who they are.
00:56:19.000And the only people talking about are people like us, which is really crazy.
00:56:24.000The only people that are talking about it are people that aren't really connected to some sort of executive corporation, a bunch of producers, a bunch of people telling you what to do.
00:57:24.000All you have to do is get over here and we'll give you an EBT card, we'll set you up, go to New York City, they'll put you in a nice hotel, they'll give you free food.
00:57:31.000And meanwhile, there's poor people in Chicago that are like, what about us?
00:57:34.000What about American citizens that pay tax dollars?
00:58:45.000Well, everybody wanted him to come on the show.
00:58:47.000And I was like, I'm never going to get this fucking guy.
00:58:49.000Like, all the media, everybody wants him.
00:58:53.000But I was like, all right, fine, I'll reach out.
00:58:55.000So hit him on the gram and messaged right back and he got in and he's like, man, he's like, I'm so glad that you reached out to me.
00:59:06.000He's like, I was literally just praying with my fiance that you would reach out because he had just did an ABC Good Morning America interview.
00:59:35.000But, man, like, to have, like, his, you know...
00:59:40.000Testimony about what happened that day, and then the care that afterwards, which was a fucking atrocious, you know?
00:59:52.000I watched this guy at my studios on the second story, and I'd watch a, you know, 23-year-old kid hobble up those fucking stairs with one leg, one arm, all kinds of shit going on in his intestine.
01:00:07.000I mean, I was like, man, what the fuck, man?
01:00:32.000You know, before we got into the actual incident, he was talking about...
01:00:37.000You know, like moms trying to throw their babies over the wall and getting caught up in razor wire and just seeing a fucking baby dangle there by the leg.
01:00:52.000You know, there's no repercussions for how that went down.
01:00:55.000The media just wants to fucking cover it up.
01:00:57.000And so I started digging deep, and I teamed up with the former CA targeter, Sarah Adams, and then a really good friend of mine, Scott Mann.
01:01:08.000We went over to Vienna to interview this guy, Ahmad Massoud, who's the leader, the commander of the Northern Alliance out there.
01:01:31.000So, we got a bunch of intel from Massoud and, you know, like, still kind of looping all the way back around to the southern border.
01:01:40.000I mean, so once Taliban took control of all of our shit, I mean, this could go on for a while, but...
01:01:48.000So now what they're doing is they have the passport office over there just making legitimate passports to—now there's 21 terrorist organizations over there training.
01:02:04.000Hansa bin Laden, who we were told was killed, is actually fucking alive.
01:02:08.000And he's marrying into all these other terrorist networks.
01:02:38.000Is married into all these terrorist organizations.
01:02:41.000Now they all have one common goal to come over to, you know, the Western world and ruin our way of life.
01:02:48.000And so what they're doing is they're funneling as many of these terrorists into the passport office, creating them legitimate, real passports.
01:02:57.000And then they sprinkle them, they get them flights into all over South Central America, and then they funnel them up.
01:03:12.000I don't give a fuck what the FBI or any of these people are saying.
01:03:17.000There is zero way to track how many of these fuckers have come in to the U.S. And so, you know, now what we're going to see is, like, October 7th-style attacks like we just saw in Israel in the mall in Russia.
01:03:32.000And everybody's like, oh, you know, why hasn't it happened yet?
01:04:08.000Look, I think that the government is more incompetent than it's ever been before, and I think they have one common goal, and I think the goal is voting, you know?
01:04:20.000They want them to vote, but I don't think that they...
01:04:24.000I don't think they're competent enough to realize the death and destruction and the other repercussions that we're going to face by keeping that border open.
01:04:36.000Because they don't have anybody that...
01:04:42.000They don't have anybody with any experience that's—they don't have any solid intelligence stuff going on that's telling them, like, hey, this is what's going to happen.
01:05:08.000I mean, unrest, I mean— They got really good at unrest, you know what I mean, in 2020, right?
01:05:16.000All through, or even before 2020, up to that election.
01:05:22.000So I don't think they need to import terrorism in cartels.
01:05:25.000Yeah, but it's a different kind of unrest.
01:05:26.000The kind of unrest that you get from people blowing up Target is very different than the kind of unrest you get from a legitimate terror attack.
01:05:58.000Well, I mean, China, you know, we have those – we have – you know, we get those big – everything is imported from China, and we have these huge transformers.
01:06:10.000You can tell me to shut up if you already know all this shit.
01:06:12.000But all of those transformers are imported from China.
01:07:58.000I mean, one of the things that really fucked us, we got away from manufacturing, and we relied on all these countries, and we really found that out during COVID, when you couldn't get shipments.
01:08:05.000It was like, whoa, wait a minute, how much of our shit is made over there?
01:09:09.000Charge me a phone where I know that people get union wages, they get healthcare, they get paid correctly, they can live a good life, and they work, normal hours.
01:09:20.000They don't have to sleep in a fucking bunk like they do in that Foxconn building when they have nets all around the building to keep people from jumping from the roofs.
01:09:31.000The Chinese factories where they make iPhones are so fucked, the people are so distraught that they put all these fencing with giant nets all around the buildings because so many people were jumping to their death that they decided we'll just catch them with nets.
01:10:27.000Most people are, like, putting on a part of their bill to pay a little bit of it off every day, and you really don't need to fucking switch phones every year.
01:10:35.000Like, everybody does, but you don't need to.
01:10:46.000Five-year-old phone or four-year-old phone, whatever the fuck it is.
01:10:50.000So, you could get a Made in America phone, and you wouldn't feel like you're supporting this horrific shit that everybody turns a blind eye to.
01:10:59.000Because that's the only way you get that kind of stuff.
01:11:02.000You know, they have them all made over there.
01:11:11.000I mean, there would have to be a large concerted effort, but the problem is it took decades to go away.
01:11:16.000It'll probably take slightly longer to come back, you know, because there's got to be planning and funding and people have to make long-term investments.
01:12:45.000Even most of these people that are walking in from Guatemala, I'd do it too, 100%.
01:12:50.000If I was living in the middle of nowhere and you told me, hey, America's letting people in, you can get a landscaper job, you can make 20 bucks an hour, I'd be like, what?
01:13:02.000I think most people are good people and they just want a better life.
01:13:07.000And I think the more we unite under that idea and stop buying into this bullshit that, like, if either side is correct, that it's the end of democracy.
01:13:17.000I think we have to, like, stop all that tribal nonsense that's happening between the left and the right because people are just subscribing to ideologies and getting captured in them just like a religious fervor.
01:13:29.000Like, they think that they're doing...
01:13:33.000The only thing that could possibly be done to save us all and that the other side is a dire threat.
01:13:40.000That's why like something like 24% of Americans think it would be a good thing if Donald Trump got shot.
01:14:00.000But I think that that's just a lot of media manipulation and a lot of fucking, a lot of people getting riled up and living in these echo chambers and these bubbles.
01:14:10.000But I think, ultimately, at the core, most people are good people.
01:14:13.000And I think if we had some wins, if some things like that did start getting built, and they did start bringing back more American manufacturing, and people start getting excited about the idea that America becomes not just a place of innovation and art and creativity,
01:14:29.000but also, like, we start manufacturing great shit again.
01:14:32.000There's no reason why we don't do that.
01:15:23.000And comedy, you're always going to have comedy.
01:15:25.000Movies are in real trouble because AI can write pretty fucking amazing scripts and the CGI, the way they can crank out video is bananas now.
01:16:12.000But once they have it completely dialed in where there's no glitch, because there's going to be some weird glitches in context and cultural things that aren't going to make sense if you translate it, that'll be weird.
01:16:26.000But once they get it dialed in pretty good, it'll be great for everybody.
01:17:42.000It's kind of like a counter to NATO. It's all these countries that are tired of us, tired of the tariffs, tired of the weaponization of the U.S. dollar.
01:17:52.000And so basically what they're trying to do is throw the U.S. currency off the world stage and pull it and use Chinese yen.
01:18:04.000And, you know, I mean, that would destroy us if all trade went to If the world reserve currency went to the Chinese yen, that would destroy our economy.
01:18:17.000But they're gaining a lot of traction on this.
01:18:21.000And so, yeah, I would love to go to any one of these 22 countries and talk to them and just ask, like...
01:18:48.000I don't know if it's like an official one, but...
01:18:51.000But they're always posting, like, updates about it and what's going on.
01:18:55.000And so I think it would be really important for somebody to go around and start talking to, you know, getting another perspective rather than what, you know, Fox and CNN have to say about it.
01:19:09.000What changed with you that altered your perspective about us being the good guys?
01:19:21.000I mean, I used to get, like, really upset when people would, you know, talk about, you know, the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan and...
01:19:34.000When I was still in, you know, and I got so pissed off, I've moved out of the fucking country.
01:19:39.000And I was like, I don't even want to listen to this shit anymore.
01:19:43.000But after diving in and looking at the policies that came out and kind of, you know, it's kind of like when It's just reflecting on some of the policy decisions and stuff that didn't really make sense at the time when I was in,
01:19:59.000that now I look back and I'm like, man, what the, like, I didn't have time to think about it then, because it was, okay, go on the next stop, go on the next mission, whatever, right?
01:20:11.000But now, like, looking back through the podcast and talking to, you know, my podcast started with all my former colleagues and mill and agency.
01:20:24.000Nobody thinks we should have been there, especially Iraq.
01:20:28.000Nobody thinks we should have been there.
01:23:20.000There's never been a thing where just an app that you get on your phone has 30 times more views than the top show at CNN. That's never happened before.
01:23:32.000But now that's the world that we live in.
01:23:34.000And so propaganda is not effective anymore.
01:23:36.000And it's also the delivery method that they use.
01:23:39.000They sit there with makeup on, with perfect clothes, and they said, right now, in Syria, and they start reading these things, and they're reading them off the teleprompter, and you know that that person could be working at fucking Entertainment Tonight.
01:23:52.000They could be working at any other show.
01:24:41.000But second of all, what are you going to do?
01:24:43.000Because one thing that I do find is that right-wing talk radio is probably the only place where you get a lot of right-wing ideas.
01:24:54.000There's a lot of local right-wing talk radio.
01:24:57.000The reason why I know is my mechanic, whenever he fixes one of my cars and he brings it back, he's always listening to right-wing talk radio.
01:25:05.000So I turned my car on the other day and I'm listening to these guys argue about Kamala Harris and the border and that she was the fucking border czar.
01:25:13.000They didn't swear, but they were going over this and I was like, that's interesting.
01:26:32.000It's such a wild thing to say, and it's such a wild thing to do, like a supervillain in a Batman movie, like some billionaire guy who likes to hire the most progressive district attorneys that's going to let people out of jail and then fund the next person who's more to the left of that person and just keep pushing it,
01:26:52.000keep pushing it, keep pushing it until you've got tents everywhere, violence in the streets, you know?
01:27:08.000Well, it's also, like, if you look at the amount of donors that donate to the left versus donate to the right, have you ever seen that chart?
01:27:25.000I think a lot of rich people feel guilty, and they get into philanthropy, and it also is a good way to cover their ass and make them look like better people.
01:27:34.000And the people that really go after you, if they don't think you're a good person, are generally the left.
01:27:38.000So if you could, like, throw them a little cheddar, you're like, keep on your side.
01:31:26.000It's some very bizarre, enormous amount of money that's being spent to make sure that the people in power continue to run things the exact same way.
01:31:36.000That's what I think they're really terrified about Trump.
01:31:39.000It's not necessarily even that he's a Republican.
01:31:41.000It's much more that he's a guy that is not going to play the game.
01:32:30.000He's destroyed Twitter No, he's he's you could still block these crazy people if you want you could still not see them if you want yeah, but what he's allowed is everyone to talk and Everyone.
01:32:44.000And if you don't think that that's good, you're very short-sighted.
01:32:47.000And you don't understand human beings.
01:32:49.000Like, you cannot have human beings censored because someone is going to be in power and they're going to take advantage of that censorship.
01:33:21.000It's a crazy time to be a person, to watch all this go down, and at the same time AI is being developed, and we're not even exactly sure where it's at right now.
01:33:29.000At any moment in time, it could be a sentient force.
01:33:39.000One of the things that they put, this AI program, they gave it a task and they gave it a specific allotted amount of time and it couldn't achieve it in the allotted amount of time so it gave itself more time.
01:34:38.000I mean, what are we going to do, though?
01:34:41.000I mean, China, you know, Xi Jinping has come out and said that he believes that the winner to the race of AI will achieve global domination.
01:36:11.000They found third-party inputs and different pieces of technology and different ways that they can exploit and use this stuff to siphon information from networks.
01:36:21.000Like if they're attached to a network that's at a university and they're doing research projects, they can siphon that information.
01:36:27.000They also embed students in these places that are beholden to the CCP. These students rise up, get their PhDs, and some of them wind up going back to China.
01:36:37.000The whole thing is really strange because we're such an open, loose society that we're vulnerable to these kind of attacks.
01:37:32.000You know, it bothers me though, like...
01:37:35.000Maybe they're not ahead of us, but, I mean, you know, the energy that they're building coal mines every day to power all this stuff.
01:37:43.000And we're going on about, should we use fossil fuels or not?
01:37:49.000And, you know, we just talked about how weak our grid is.
01:37:54.000So if we don't beef up the grid and start going, you know, nuclear, then we're going to fucking lose this race.
01:38:01.000Well, not only that, like, how are you saying, like California, for example, California is not going to have internal combustion engine cars by 2035. By 2035, you have to buy only electric cars.
01:38:18.000I mean, it can be reversed for sure, and it probably will be once the Great War happens.
01:38:22.000But if you're going to say that and you have a grid that you have to shut down, like you have to do brownouts every summer because of people using the air conditioning.
01:38:31.000And after he said that, after Newsom said this about this thing about 2035, within two months they asked people to stop charging their Teslas because it was wrecking the grid.
01:38:48.000You're asking people to stop charging their electric cars, and you're not doing anything to strengthen your grid?
01:38:54.000Like, what are you doing to beef this up for 2035?
01:38:57.000Do you have some immense project that you're building that is going to make a much more sustainable, much more robust grid that's going to be able to handle 30 million electric cars in your state?
01:42:05.000Samsung withdraws its personnel from, that's it, Taylor Plant, located in Texas, due to 2NMGAA yields unable to improve beyond the 10-20% range.
01:42:39.000Allowing Samsung to secure lucrative clients in the US. Unfortunately, despite...
01:42:44.000Progressing with the chip-making plant, the company has faced a challenge that has become all too familiar with the entity, ensuring healthy yields, particularly with its 2nm GAA process.
01:42:55.000The situation surrounds 3nm GAA is not pretty either, with Business Korea reporting that Samsung's yields for this technology stand at 50%, whereas TSMC has a significant lead in As its 3 nanometer yields are in the 60-70% range.
01:43:14.000That's the Taiwan Semiconductor Company.
01:43:17.000Yeah, so they're just not good enough yet.
01:43:20.000I mean, they're doing it from the ground up.
01:43:22.000There's going to be a lot of trial and error.
01:43:25.000It's going to take a long-ass time, you know?
01:43:27.000I mean, remember when SpaceX started and, you know, rockets were exploding?
01:43:32.000And people were like, oh my god, the rocket exploded.
01:43:34.000And Elon was like, yeah, we're going to blow some rockets up because we have to figure out exactly what the tolerances are and how to do it correctly.
01:44:42.000This article is saying that these NVIDIA chips, which I guess are ours because it's a Silicon Valley-based company, puts the U.S. way further ahead of China.
01:44:55.000The gap between China and US leading in artificial intelligence chip technology is set to widen even further after Nvidia founder and chief executive Jensen Huang unveiled next generation processors for what he called the new era of generative AI and robotics used in industries.
01:45:12.000But we're right, but we're not making those.
01:45:14.000But the thing is, the other part of it is, like, they're going to get access to this stuff, which is, this is the really creepy thing that people keep admitting, is that it's very porous.
01:45:24.000The top secret information that these companies have, espionage, is, like, super common.
01:45:31.000It's so lucrative that, you know, they don't even, sometimes they probably don't even know when stuff is getting siphoned over there.
01:45:37.000Well, I mean, you have to just think, I mean, it's Chinese, from what I understand, it's Chinese law that anything, any business that is taking, that is being conducted within China, If it helps, if the technology helps the military or could potentially help the military,
01:47:33.000But this woman, they've developed some sort of anti-gravity technology.
01:47:38.000And I've always wondered, when we're looking at these things that people are calling UAPs or whatever you want to call them, like, how many of those are super sophisticated drones?
01:47:52.000I'm not saying that there's not a real phenomenon going on that people are seeing that defies science and logic and might be a super intelligent creature from somewhere else or a super intelligent thing from somewhere else, if it's even biological at this point.
01:48:08.000It might be that all life eventually becomes digital life and all life eventually becomes some sort of artificial intelligence or at least connected to artificial intelligence.
01:48:17.000That might be like the progression of biological life that eventually creates something way better than itself, and that's what propagates the universe.
01:48:25.000And if someone in this world has developed some sort of technology that's similar to what they use, that's a huge advantage.
01:48:38.000That's the thing that gets me about all this UAP talk.
01:48:41.000I'm like, if some other country had, or if we had, something that was just a game changer, something that didn't require any propulsion systems at all, it relied on gravity and it bends space and time and can instantaneously traverse between one point in the sky and another.
01:49:21.000I think there is a possibility a very strong possibility that there's life out there and That if I was life out there and I was much more advanced than us I would definitely visit us and there's also the fact that the the sightings kicked up in a huge way after 1945 after the the atomic bomb After they,
01:49:43.000you know, did the Trinity experiment and after they dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, all those nuclear tests that they did in the 50s and 60s, that's exactly when the sightings start ramping up.
01:49:55.000And if I was an intelligent life force From another planet, I would go, oh, these crazy monkeys have nukes.
01:50:03.000And then we'd have to, you know, you'd have to think, okay, do we intervene?
01:50:07.000Well, if they blow themselves up, it will take so long for that planet to get back to a point where it has intelligent life again.
01:50:16.000If they kill every person on this planet and we're back to shrews and mice and fucking a couple of monkeys in the jungle, how long before you can get a city again?
01:50:25.000How long before you can get a cell phone again?
01:50:27.000How many millions of years does it take?
01:50:29.000And if I was an intelligent life force that realized that this is an error that can be corrected, I would probably correct it.
01:51:59.000And there's girls that were pregnant and, you know, like newly pregnant and got abducted and all of a sudden they weren't pregnant anymore and they couldn't figure out what happened.
01:52:19.000And it's all like him interviewing people that have had these kind of experiences happen to them.
01:52:25.000And this book was in the 1990s, right?
01:52:31.000I don't think these people got to share stories where they could come up with the same story organically.
01:52:37.000Like today, you've heard so many stories online about UFO abductions or crash retrieval or something that you could formulate in your own mind a dream that seemed like these things that you had heard over and over and over again.
01:52:53.000But when you go back to like Betty and Barney Hill, which were one of the first people that ever got abducted by aliens, They have the same sort of story as all these different people that didn't know anything about the phenomenon, didn't know anything about UFO abductions,
01:53:09.000and then all of a sudden had one event in their life that freaked them out for the rest of their life.
01:53:14.000And they take them through hypnotic progression.
01:53:16.000These people should hear the recordings of Betty and Barney Hill.
01:54:43.000But when he starts talking about those ancient tablets, he's an expert in the deciphering of all those ancient tablets, and he's got a lot of information on that.
01:54:52.000Those things are fascinating because it's all the same stories even back then.
01:54:55.000These flying ships and all these different depictions of things that came from the sky and these giants and the Anunnaki and all these different things that came from some other place that had interaction with human beings.
01:55:08.000Yeah, he kind of mixes it with biblical stuff, right?
01:55:14.000That's kind of, I don't know, that's what I lean towards with all this stuff, to be honest with you, is maybe, I think there's some consciousness aspect, I think there's, I think it is the afterlife.
01:55:33.000It's possible that whatever these things are that come here, they're from some sort of another dimension and that we just don't have the ability to interact with that.
01:55:42.000We're limited in our capacity as a biological entity to interact with these dimensions that are real.
01:55:54.000But in some cases under duress, under some situations, in some, you know, just like a person can be hypnotized, just like a person can go into a trance.
01:56:05.000I think there's a way every now and then that people can kind of access these realms.
01:56:10.000And I think that's probably what some of these entities are.
01:56:14.000I think people are probably having real experiences with something that probably is real, but that normally you cannot interact with.
01:57:18.000And I think the connection that people have with each other is not as simple as like, you call your friend up, hey, I haven't talked to you in forever.
01:58:00.000When they were saying that, they didn't really understand what the brain does and what parts of the brain do, and they thought that we're only using 10%.
01:58:07.000No, it's like different parts of the brain.
01:58:09.000Have very different functions and under different circumstances, different parts of the brain are activated.
01:58:15.000I think just we have a limited understanding of the actual function of the brain, like the whole thing and how it's making chemicals and making psychedelic compounds and hormones and epinephrine and norepinephrine and all this different...
01:58:34.000Dopamine and serotonin and how it regulates your system and changes the way you interact with the world.
01:59:21.000But the way he, you know, I asked him, I'm like, well, how do you, like, how does it, how did it happen?
01:59:28.000Do you think, does everybody have this?
01:59:30.000Or, you know, I was just pinging him with questions.
01:59:32.000And he said he thinks we all have had it since the beginning.
01:59:37.000And that, I mean, he was basically saying, if you look at how animals communicate, they kind of communicate telepathically.
01:59:45.000And he was talking about, you know, caveman times, you know, used to point at shit and grunt and nod heads and look at things and everybody would know what you're thinking about.
01:59:58.000And he goes, and then we started traveling in groups.
02:00:03.000And then language was kind of And he goes, language actually slowed down our initial form of communication, which was, you know, it wasn't maybe as descriptive, but it was just as deliberate as speaking a language.
02:00:21.000And then you introduce technology, and basically what he was kind of saying is, you know, that our brains have been kind of dubbed down from, you know, thousands and thousands of years of Technology coming out and language and all these other things.
02:01:59.000Worm-shaped tube attached to the large intestine in the human body.
02:02:02.000It's an organ that is credited with very little significance and often removed indiscriminately to avoid complications due to infection.
02:02:08.000However, modern researchers believe the appendix has many key functions in the human body and it protects the body's internal environment from infection.
02:02:16.000What is the original origin of the appendix though?
02:02:34.000It was found that in herbivorous vertebrates, the appendix is comparatively larger and it helped in the digestion of tough herbivorous foods such as bark of a tree.
02:02:47.000So, the thing is, like, we're changing, right?
02:02:50.000We don't eat like that anymore, so it's changing, and its function changes.
02:02:55.000And it makes sense that if we don't use the mind the same way our ancestors did before language, we'd probably lose this connection that animals do seem to have with each other.
02:03:04.000Yeah, I mean, you know, there's all kinds of...
02:03:06.000I mean, have you heard of people kind of...
02:04:01.000I think technology certainly distracts human beings from human interactions and kids today are growing up more socially unbalanced and more their progress is retarded.
02:04:16.000There's something about the use of technology That is certainly limiting kids' abilities to interact with each other person to person.
02:04:27.000And over time, that's probably going to be the norm.
02:04:31.000And if you wanted to think about the rise of spectrum disorders and lack of emotional connectivity and empathy that people have that seem to have those, especially on the far ends of the spectrum, and then...
02:04:46.000Accentuate that with added technology, constant technology.
02:04:49.000Each technology is more and more invasive.
02:04:51.000The population of people that have these problems, it's almost like we're moving towards becoming a different kind of person.
02:04:58.000Yeah, you know, this person that works for me turned me on to this podcast the other day and it was talking about how, this is unverified, but it was still a fascinating conversation.
02:05:12.000They were talking about how in, I can't remember the amount of years, but humans will begin to lose their peripheral vision because they're looking at a phone so much.
02:08:25.000I wasn't even aware of all this stuff.
02:08:27.000I knew about the bedridden stuff and...
02:08:29.000But he was hiding a lot of that shit from me, and his wife got and called me, and so I got him piped in to this program, went down, did Ibogaine, and did 5-MeO,
02:08:46.000left his fucking cane there, went home, banged his wife, doesn't need the sunglasses anymore, And is not bedridden.
02:08:55.000And that was about six months ago, and I just talked to him the other day.
02:12:17.000And, like, I didn't get a lot of visuals, but the first visual I got was I was just sitting there, like, looking in this mirror, shaking this fucking maraca.
02:12:27.000And my head's, like, I was like, alright, this shit is not working.
02:12:31.000Well, then my head, like, it, like, split open.
02:13:36.000Like, you're in space or something, and then these two lines of TV screens that were going in my peripheral vision, and what was playing in those TV screens was...
02:13:45.000And it was moving, like, at kind of a slow pace.
02:13:49.000And so, like, I could see what was going on in the TV screens through my peripheral, but if I tried to concentrate on any one particular thing, then they would, like, all just disappear until I stopped trying to...
02:14:05.000Like, concentrate on one thing, and then they'd all appear again.
02:14:08.000And I could, like, look at it through my peripheral, and I'd be like, oh, you know, that was in Baghdad.
02:14:16.000That's when I was five years old, and my dad was, like, yelling at me, and that was this.
02:14:22.000And it was like, but it wasn't like, I wasn't, like, reliving traumatic events.
02:14:37.000So I just let them pass, and then I went into some other stage, which I don't really understand, but it was a bunch of these walls of stuffed animals, and I was kind of going through this maze.
02:14:50.000And then the last thing I talked about before I... Before I did the experience was China.
02:14:57.000So then I had like this horrible thing about the Chinese invasion.
02:15:03.000But what came out of that, like it's like, oh, well, that doesn't sound very good.
02:15:09.000Well, yeah, what came out of that, I lost 11 pounds.
02:18:54.000And if there was a thing that we are aware of that could help all of our citizens that are struggling right now listening to this as people are struggling, and there's a thing, and it's illegal in this country.
02:19:08.000As far as I know, I don't think people are dying from Ibogaine.
02:19:12.000You know, Ibogaine was, it was very funny that Hunter chose this, but Hunter S. Thompson used that during, was it the McGovern, the McGovern elections?
02:19:23.000It was like 72, whatever it was, and when he rode Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail.
02:19:30.000So he created a rumor that Ed Muskie, who was one of the candidates, had a severe Ibogaine addiction and that Brazilian scientists were coming to visit him and give him this treatment.
02:19:42.000It became such a rumor and it spread so far and it started affecting him and he was giving campaign speeches and he was denying it and he was all sweating and he looked like a maniac and Hunter essentially derailed this guy's campaign.
02:19:57.000By saying that he was addicted to Ibogaine, of all things.
02:20:01.000I think Ibogaine would be impossible to be addicted to.
02:20:03.000See if you can find Hunter on the Dick Cavett show where he admits that he started the rumor.
02:21:20.000I've heard of people that get addicted to certain psychedelics, but I think there's people that do psychedelics to learn more about themselves, and I think there's people that do it to escape.
02:21:30.000And I think they escape reality with it, and then they choose that as their reality, and they do it way too much.
02:21:37.000I think there's abuse with everything.
02:21:39.000I think you can certainly abuse at least some psychedelics.
02:21:43.000But the benefits of them far outweigh the negatives, and there's a lot of people that are hurting in this country, and they should have access to all the different things that could help them.
02:22:12.000I'm speaking for the veteran population right now, but why can't you just let us fucking get better?
02:22:21.000Everybody knows the 22 a day, which is actually like 40-something a day, veterans that are killing themselves, and this shit is a fucking game-changer.
02:22:33.000But I don't think Big Pharma is going to allow it.
02:22:44.000But when you hear about the five kill teams and you hear about all this different shit that's going on, I mean, October hasn't even started yet.
02:22:54.000You've got a full month of October, and who knows what the fuck could happen leading up to the elections.
02:23:00.000Yeah, I don't think they're going to let up whoever they are.
02:23:04.000And not only that, but forget about the organization.
02:23:09.000Forget that there are people out there, probably like Iran and maybe state actors or who knows, that's trying to kill Trump.
02:23:17.000What about just the fucking general kooks that have been buying all this rhetoric every day that he's a threat to democracy and they think that this is the one thing that can give them meaning in their life, the one great act that they can accomplish to go out and kill Trump?
02:25:40.000And also like weirdly chaotic in the sense that this is all happening at the same time as the rise of podcasts and social media and And new ways to get information.
02:25:51.000So more people are aware of how fuck we are now than during the Vietnam War.
02:25:56.000People were against the Vietnam War, and they're against fighting the troops in the Vietnam War, but they didn't really know what was going on.
02:26:04.000They didn't have full access to it like we have now.
02:27:58.000I don't know what the solution to any of this stuff is.
02:28:00.000I hope it's a greater understanding that we develop over time, where we figure out how to communicate better and work together.
02:28:09.000And I think some of that can be facilitated through AI, if it's done correctly, if it's like a real open source AI. Where people can get a real better understanding of the actual mechanisms instead of like whatever beliefs you have and why the system works the way it is.
02:28:31.000I think one way would just be having podcasters and journalists I mean, how the fuck would you do this?
02:28:41.000But, you know, one thing, like on my show, and I kind of went off the rails a little bit the last month, I got a little probably more political than I wanted.
02:31:38.000I was like doing camping stove reviews and I bought a bunch of fucking alpacas and put them in my front yard and I thought I was gonna be a farmer and like...
02:32:34.000Two, there's a major fucking suicide epidemic happening, so let's talk about some guys that had attempted...
02:32:42.000I mean, I tried to kill myself, but let's get some guys that have really been through it, dug themselves out of it, and so we're documenting history the way it happened.
02:33:16.000Let's document the history, talk about your vulnerabilities, what it was like retransitioning back into civilian life, how fucked up it was, how you ruined your family, how you tried to kill yourself, all that shit, how you came out of it, and then let's talk about your business.
02:33:31.000And so, I mean, these guys would come on and, you know, their business would, like, jet launch overnight, which I'm sure you, you know...
02:34:01.000I started feeling a lot of resentment to my guests because they would come on my show And then they would, like, pass me up business-wise like that.
02:34:17.000Like, what the fuck do I have to do to make a business out of this shit?
02:34:21.000Like, I'm great at, like, jet-launching everybody else's shit, but I'm not making any fucking money here, and I got a family to support, and this isn't gonna work out.
02:34:31.000And then, I don't know what happened, man, but then something just, like, switched.
02:34:36.000Like, God just stepped in and was like, you're doing good shit.
02:35:00.000You do a great show, and then the beautiful thing about social media and YouTube and all these different things is that people could just share it.
02:35:08.000Like, I've had a few people, I think Billy Carson, I think somebody sent me that one.
02:35:11.000And, you know, it's just like someone would say, hey, you should check this out, you know, and just send you a text message.
02:38:01.000They'd come over to my house, and my kids were really young at the time, so, like, in the early days, like, you would hear, we were in one of my spare bedrooms with a desk set up, and you'd hear, Mom!
02:38:12.000You hear that in the background when the kids are arguing with each other.
02:38:17.000So it was, you know, from that, move into like a little studio.
02:38:22.000We rented a little office space somewhere and then moved into a warehouse and got a real studio and then started having security there and then started, well, I should have a fucking gym here.
02:38:33.000Let's put a gym in and started, you know, bringing in guys to train with and then it just got big.
02:39:06.000But the way you do it and the way I do it is I think that's why it's interesting.
02:39:11.000Because I can tell, like, when you're talking to that guy that was talking about the direct energy weapons in Antarctica, all that crazy shit, like, you wanted to hear what the guy had to say.
02:39:43.000We had these shit cameras that had, like, 30-minute timers, so I was...
02:39:46.000Mike Glover was my first guest, and so my wife was, like, running back and forth, resetting these 30-minute fucking timer cameras, and I'm trying to run the sound and listen to what the hell Mike's saying, and I'm like...
02:40:45.000And that's the great thing about this.
02:40:48.000We need more voices like yours out there, more different people that are doing the same kind of thing, following their own interests, talking to people honestly, having these long-form podcasts.
02:41:00.000The one with the guy studying the UFOs, I think that's like four and a half hours long, right?