The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #221 - Shane Smith

00:00:03.000 I've got to make sure my shit's off. 0.99

00:00:05.000 I don't want to be that guy. 0.99

00:00:07.000 The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast is brought to you by The Fleshlight.

00:00:10.000 You already know this.

00:00:11.000 I've said this a thousand times.

00:00:13.000 I've been using my Fleshlight, actually, for real, for the last week or so.

00:00:17.000 Really?

00:00:18.000 By yourself?

00:00:20.000 No, no, yeah, by myself.

00:00:21.000 But I've got that massage, that icy massage stuff for your back. 0.98

00:00:25.000 That makes it hot?

00:00:26.000 Yeah, it makes it cool, like tingly.

00:00:29.000 I've been using that.

00:00:30.000 What?

00:00:31.000 Like a lube?

00:00:32.000 Yeah.

00:00:32.000 That's the stuff that's like Tiger Balm or something.

00:00:35.000 Is that what you mean?

00:00:35.000 Yeah, it's the one that you just buy at the grocery store.

00:00:38.000 Is it lube? 1.00

00:00:38.000 No, no, it's like massage oil for the cold one on my dick. 1.00

00:00:43.000 And it doesn't seem like you should do that. 1.00

00:00:45.000 I've used the hot one before while having sex, and it destroyed the girl's vagina, and it was the worst night ever. 1.00

00:00:50.000 But the cool one you can get away with. 1.00

00:00:52.000 What happened?

00:00:54.000 I always thought for some reason like massage oil and oil and all that you could just put in the vagina. 1.00

00:01:01.000 It just never really occurred to me. 0.99

00:01:04.000 You say the vagina like it's a cabinet. 1.00

00:01:07.000 The vagina is just some area you could put things. 1.00

00:01:11.000 That's like human tissue that absorbs toxins and chemicals. 0.66

00:01:15.000 I know.

00:01:16.000 I know that now.

00:01:18.000 She screamed and it ruined her whole night.

00:01:21.000 It got inflamed. 1.00

00:01:23.000 It went from hot, sexy time to fucking bitch-ass time. 1.00

00:01:28.000 But the cold one you can kind of get away with. 1.00

00:01:30.000 I've used the cold one on a girl before and I just didn't tell her. 0.58

00:01:33.000 What?

00:01:34.000 Why would you do that?

00:01:35.000 Because I didn't know.

00:01:37.000 This was back when I didn't know.

00:01:38.000 And I thought it was just lotion.

00:01:40.000 And I used it.

00:01:41.000 And she never said anything bad.

00:01:42.000 It was the hot one that got me in trouble.

00:01:44.000 When you used it, what was the purpose of what we do?

00:01:48.000 For lube.

00:01:48.000 She wasn't enjoying this?

00:01:50.000 Like in the ass and everything. 1.00

00:01:51.000 Oh, hey! 1.00

00:01:52.000 I think that's even worse, dude.

00:01:55.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:01:55.000 I think probably your pussy's a little more durable than inside your asshole. 1.00

00:01:58.000 Well, I also used to always go ass to pussy, pussy to ass, never thought anything about it. 1.00

00:02:02.000 What did you do that for? 1.00

00:02:03.000 Because I never thought anything about it.

00:02:04.000 Do you know anything about poop? 0.88

00:02:06.000 Now that I've dated some porn stars, I know everything possible, but I didn't know that with an Ohio girl. 1.00

00:02:11.000 They don't know that shit either. 1.00

00:02:13.000 So they just fucking get infected and die? 1.00

00:02:15.000 What happens? 1.00

00:02:16.000 You could die from that, dude. 1.00

00:02:17.000 You're sticking poop inside your body. 1.00

00:02:18.000 Oh, I know that now. 1.00

00:02:18.000 That's fucking wrong. 1.00

00:02:20.000 They should train those Ohio Midwest people about this stuff. 0.99

00:02:23.000 Somebody should at least bring it up.

00:02:24.000 It should be something you talk about.

00:02:26.000 Think about that. 1.00

00:02:27.000 The vagina is right next to the asshole. 1.00

00:02:30.000 And you're barely telling them about putting in the vagina. 1.00

00:02:33.000 Does putting in the asshole ever even come up? 1.00

00:02:35.000 But yet, in real life, it comes up all the time. 1.00

00:02:38.000 Exactly.

00:02:39.000 That's school for you.

00:02:40.000 That's birds and bees. 0.99

00:02:41.000 That's horseshit. 1.00

00:02:42.000 Well, I'm glad you never killed anybody with your poop vagina antics. 1.00

00:02:46.000 I feel bad. 1.00

00:02:47.000 You should feel bad.

00:02:47.000 That's why I don't feel bad using the cold lube on my flashlight.

00:02:51.000 So this cold lube, would you recommend this?

00:02:54.000 I mean, is this safe? 1.00

00:02:55.000 Is your dick going to fall off if you keep using it? 1.00

00:02:57.000 It's probably not safe. 1.00

00:02:58.000 Don't do it. 1.00

00:02:58.000 It feels really, really good when your dick's like on ice, but it's throbbing. 1.00

00:03:03.000 You're a strange lad. 1.00

00:03:04.000 You're a strange lad.

00:03:06.000 And it numbs the fleshlight even more.

00:03:08.000 Don't do it.

00:03:08.000 Listen, do not.

00:03:10.000 This is nothing we endorse. 1.00

00:03:11.000 I don't know what adverse effects that's going to have on your dick, you silly bitch. 1.00

00:03:15.000 For ladies and gentlemen, the regular folks out there only use actual, real sexual lubrication. 1.00

00:03:20.000 Flesh lube. 0.74

00:03:21.000 Flesh lube is something that the fleshlight sells.

00:03:23.000 Fantastic stuff.

00:03:24.000 No need to deviate.

00:03:25.000 Yeah, and you know, honestly, now that I'm thinking about it, I think you're only supposed to use water-based lubes in your fleshlight because they will destroy them. 0.99

00:03:32.000 So I probably am fucking up my bitch pretty bad. 0.97

00:03:34.000 Oh, what are you doing then, man? 0.99

00:03:35.000 I'm destroying my fleshlight.

00:03:37.000 Don't do that.

00:03:37.000 I got an extra one if you do, but don't do it.

00:03:39.000 Shit. 0.99

00:03:39.000 It's a worthwhile thing. 0.99

00:03:41.000 You can keep one for years.

00:03:42.000 I know, but this is the Jenna Hayes special edition one. 1.00

00:03:46.000 Destroy Jenna Hayes' butthole. 1.00

00:03:48.000 Does it have her little signature on it? 1.00

00:03:50.000 Yeah, it does. 0.99

00:03:51.000 As if she would ever have her signature on her butthole. 1.00

00:03:53.000 That doesn't even fucking make sense. 1.00

00:03:54.000 I like to think it's just herpes. 0.97

00:03:55.000 Why would you sign that?

00:03:56.000 You like to think it's just herpes?

00:03:58.000 Imagine if your herpes was like a signature, like so you know exactly who gave it to you.

00:04:02.000 Jenna Hayes gave me this. 0.99

00:04:03.000 You get fucking Joey T.S. herpes. 1.00

00:04:05.000 It's right here on your ass. 1.00

00:04:08.000 They should make death squad fleshlights. 1.00

00:04:11.000 They would, I'm sure. 1.00

00:04:12.000 For gay guys. 1.00

00:04:13.000 Oh, you're disgusting. 1.00

00:04:14.000 You mean like we should pose? 1.00

00:04:16.000 No, we just mold our buttholes.

00:04:18.000 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

00:04:19.000 You have to pose for that. 1.00

00:04:20.000 They have to model your asshole. 1.00

00:04:22.000 Would you be down with that? 1.00

00:04:23.000 If we got a percentage of the fleshlight, those girls make good money. 1.00

00:04:26.000 They do.

00:04:27.000 They make great money. 1.00

00:04:28.000 So you're more than willing to let a rubber version of your asshole be distributed all over the world. 1.00

00:04:33.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:04:33.000 Why not? 1.00

00:04:34.000 You're just because you're silly. 1.00

00:04:35.000 That's why. 1.00

00:04:35.000 Because what if some dude just gets really into the idea of fucking you in the ass? 1.00

00:04:39.000 Because he's been practicing on your fleshlight and he dresses up like you and he's got your fucking t-shirt on right now. 1.00

00:04:46.000 And if he had your little butthole fleshlight, that would come so close to completing the deal. 0.99

00:04:51.000 That's all he needs.

00:04:52.000 No, all he needs is roof and all. 1.00

00:04:54.000 And some duct tape, and he's gonna fuck you on video. 1.00

00:04:58.000 And a handkerchief. 1.00

00:04:58.000 Yeah, I don't think you should be, like, sending people the wrong message. 1.00

00:05:02.000 And the wrong message clearly is you can fuck my fake ass. 1.00

00:05:06.000 Olive Garden Butthole. 1.00

00:05:07.000 Exactly.

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00:06:49.000 Strap in, bitches. 1.00

00:06:51.000 World traveler Shane Smith is here. 0.99

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00:07:03.000 My man.

00:07:10.000 My man got here, saw the whiskey on the table, right away cracked it open.

00:07:16.000 We're not even looking at 2pm and he was down.

00:07:20.000 I have to drink off my Vegas.

00:07:22.000 Is that what it is?

00:07:25.000 How bad was it for you?

00:07:27.000 It was a bad time.

00:07:28.000 It's a bad time.

00:07:30.000 Where'd you guys go?

00:07:32.000 You went to the fights.

00:07:33.000 We went to the fights.

00:07:34.000 It was awesome.

00:07:36.000 And then that night we went out to, we had ten vice guys there.

00:07:41.000 And three of them, I got calls the next day because the limos had their wallets in them.

00:07:46.000 Three separate cars.

00:07:49.000 They lost their wallet.

00:07:51.000 Pickpocket dudes must thrive on that.

00:07:54.000 When they see those stumbling guys on Monday morning that are barely together.

00:07:58.000 So wrecked from the weekend.

00:08:00.000 Well, the car drivers were nice.

00:08:03.000 They were like, hey, I'll come around and bring him back.

00:08:05.000 Right, right, right.

00:08:07.000 They'd be happy and they're going to get a tip anyway. 0.70

00:08:09.000 The Vice videos that you guys did for Dan Hardy were fucking awesome, man.

00:08:13.000 That's really good stuff, man. 0.88

00:08:16.000 It's really creatively shot.

00:08:18.000 It's intriguing.

00:08:19.000 The music was good.

00:08:20.000 The choices of when to put music and when to put no sound.

00:08:24.000 It was really interesting, man.

00:08:26.000 I thought it was great. 0.88

00:08:28.000 The whole scene where he's driving, I was like, this is fucking cool. 0.82

00:08:32.000 I love Dan Hardy.

00:08:33.000 He's awesome.

00:08:34.000 He's quite a personality.

00:08:36.000 I love the other guy too, Dwayne Ludwig, his opponent.

00:08:40.000 So it was hard to watch one guy lose and one guy win.

00:08:43.000 It always is, but...

00:08:44.000 It's nice to see Dan Hardy successful again.

00:08:47.000 I love a story like that, man.

00:08:48.000 I love when a guy takes this Jamie Varner kid that fought this weekend.

00:08:51.000 Did you see that?

00:08:52.000 He went to some small shows, lost all his motivation, started getting beat by guys that should never beat him.

00:09:01.000 And then all of a sudden, he just, for whatever reason, left to figure it out. 1.00

00:09:05.000 When he talked to him, decided to get his shit together again and just trained like a fucking madman. 0.97

00:09:09.000 They give him another shot in the UFC, and he just goes and knocks out Edson Barboza, who's like one of the top ten killers at 155 pounds in the world. 0.99

00:09:16.000 The last time Barboza was in the ring was in Brazil where he fucking wheel kicked Terry Edom in the head and knocked him unconscious. 0.76

00:09:22.000 I mean, he's a dangerous, dangerous dude. 0.99

00:09:25.000 And Jamie Varner fucked him up, man. 1.00

00:09:27.000 It was crazy. 0.98

00:09:28.000 I love a story like that.

00:09:29.000 I love a dude who just gets it together.

00:09:31.000 There you go.

00:09:32.000 It's like one of my favorite things in life.

00:09:34.000 I love a guy who can keep it together, but man, I love a dude who loses it and gets it back.

00:09:39.000 That's fascinating to me.

00:09:41.000 I'm trying to think of a boxer that lost it and got it back.

00:09:45.000 Not very many.

00:09:46.000 Because the Cinderella story is that they had the boxing film recently about the old guy.

00:09:52.000 Oh, that's pretty good.

00:09:54.000 The old time guy who had to fix his arm by picking up the crates.

00:09:59.000 Who's that guy?

00:09:59.000 Which guy was that?

00:10:01.000 Ah, fuck no. 0.99

00:10:02.000 How long ago was this movie? 1.00

00:10:04.000 Like 10, in the last 10 years.

00:10:06.000 Is that Russell Crowe?

00:10:08.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:09.000 Braddock.

00:10:09.000 Yeah, Braddock.

00:10:10.000 James Braddock, yeah. 1.00

00:10:10.000 They got that shit together. 1.00

00:10:11.000 I didn't see that. 1.00

00:10:12.000 No.

00:10:13.000 I saw, like, a clip of it, and it looked so hokey, Hollywood. 0.99

00:10:16.000 I was like, get the fuck out of here. 0.99

00:10:17.000 It was hokey. 0.97

00:10:18.000 I hate when a guy who's that good, like Russell Crowe, gets stuck in a movie like that. 0.98

00:10:23.000 You're using one of the best actors ever, and you got him in this goofy-ass movie, this fucking fake-ass boxing movie when guys throw fake-ass-looking punches.

00:10:34.000 There's not a whole lot of guys that have ever pulled off a real good fight scene in a movie. 0.97

00:10:38.000 Right.

00:10:40.000 It's hard. 1.00

00:10:40.000 It's hard to fake that shit. 1.00

00:10:42.000 That's the beauty of watching it in real life. 1.00

00:10:45.000 Yeah.

00:10:45.000 It's so crazy.

00:10:46.000 If you've never seen it before, folks, you owe it to yourself for once in your life if you're a UFC fan to get tickets and go to see a live event if it comes anywhere near you because it's fucking crazy. 0.78

00:10:58.000 Yeah, it's awesome.

00:10:58.000 When you're right there too, I mean, I've been like inches away from some of the craziest moments in combat history, combat sports history.

00:11:07.000 And the best seats, believe it or not, are not floor.

00:11:10.000 It's about halfway up where you're almost just a little bit over the top.

00:11:15.000 Yeah, you're right, you're right.

00:11:18.000 The best seats are not the most expensive ones.

00:11:20.000 The above angle is a great angle, especially like that first riser, I think that's what it's called.

00:11:25.000 Yeah, the first riser.

00:11:26.000 So what happened?

00:11:27.000 You just kept going?

00:11:28.000 You just kept going all through Friday, all through Saturday, all through Sunday?

00:11:31.000 Yeah.

00:11:33.000 I came straight here. 1.00

00:11:34.000 Damn, dude. 1.00

00:11:35.000 Any sleep? 1.00

00:11:39.000 In the limos, you know.

00:11:40.000 We would pass out and then sort of keep going.

00:11:43.000 But yeah, a little bit of sleep.

00:11:44.000 Dude.

00:11:44.000 I'm old now, so I can't.

00:11:45.000 You're a fucking savage. 1.00

00:11:47.000 You're still out there going wheels off, man. 1.00

00:11:50.000 You still go wheels off the tracks into the woods.

00:11:53.000 You still do it, huh?

00:11:54.000 Yeah.

00:11:55.000 That's fun, isn't it?

00:11:56.000 Yeah.

00:11:57.000 I wish that alcohol didn't have such a penalty, such a steep penalty on your body.

00:12:02.000 Yeah.

00:12:02.000 I love getting drunk.

00:12:03.000 Yeah.

00:12:04.000 You know?

00:12:04.000 I mean, I'm really responsible about it.

00:12:07.000 I try not to do it, you know, to the point of excess or that I don't ever drive. 0.99

00:12:13.000 But I do like getting fucked up. 0.97

00:12:15.000 That's why I like doing shots like in Vegas after a show. 1.00

00:12:19.000 It's like, let's just get fucked up. 0.98

00:12:21.000 You know, when last time Eddie and Tom Segura and I got fucked up in Australia, we're like, we're not Australia. 0.99

00:12:26.000 I ain't got no responsibility to see it. 1.00

00:12:28.000 Let's get fucking blasted. 1.00

00:12:29.000 Right. 1.00

00:12:30.000 You know? 1.00

00:12:31.000 Damn, the price is just ruthless on your body. 1.00

00:12:34.000 I'm pretty drunk still. 1.00

00:12:35.000 I was kind of drunk driving here.

00:12:37.000 What?

00:12:39.000 For real? 0.97

00:12:39.000 Yeah, because I woke up and went straight here, so I felt like I was still pretty fucked up from last night. 0.97

00:12:46.000 You really think that you could have got pulled over and arrested? 0.95

00:12:49.000 Probably not.

00:12:49.000 I probably would be fine, but it felt like I was buzzed still from last night.

00:12:55.000 Damn, dude. 1.00

00:12:56.000 You're going wheels off, too. 1.00

00:12:57.000 Both of you motherfuckers. 1.00

00:12:59.000 Putting me to shame. 1.00

00:13:02.000 I'm not putting you to shame on anything.

00:13:05.000 I don't know what I'm allowed to say on the air.

00:13:07.000 You can say anything about whiskey.

00:13:09.000 Don't say too much.

00:13:10.000 Don't get crazy.

00:13:12.000 What are you going to say?

00:13:13.000 I was going to say, you gave me something.

00:13:17.000 The walls have ears, sir!

00:13:20.000 Jack Daniel's honey is my new thing.

00:13:21.000 Doing shots of that is my new thing.

00:13:23.000 It's delicious for poison.

00:13:24.000 As far as poison goes, it's the best stuff.

00:13:26.000 What's your poison, man? 0.99

00:13:28.000 Well, I love whiskey, but I like shitty Irish whiskey, like Bushmills. 0.99

00:13:32.000 Really? 0.92

00:13:32.000 That's the kind of stuff you like? 0.92

00:13:33.000 Yeah.

00:13:34.000 The more expensive Scotch is, it more tastes like Scotts. 1.00

00:13:37.000 Scotts sucks. 1.00

00:13:39.000 I like to just drink all shitty whiskey. 1.00

00:13:41.000 Really? 0.99

00:13:42.000 That's interesting.

00:13:42.000 Is that common?

00:13:46.000 I don't know.

00:13:47.000 I thought the smooth stuff was the stuff that was really old and super expensive.

00:13:51.000 No, it's really smoky.

00:13:52.000 That's really smoky stuff.

00:13:54.000 I like peat, which is Irish whiskey.

00:13:56.000 It tastes like peat.

00:13:57.000 They boil it over peat bog.

00:13:59.000 The only time I've ever had really good whiskey is there was a guy named Josh Lieb.

00:14:03.000 He was one of the writers on news radio.

00:14:06.000 Very funny guy.

00:14:07.000 Very nice guy.

00:14:08.000 And he was just a really interesting character.

00:14:11.000 And he was into like really old whiskey.

00:14:15.000 And I was like, how much does that cost?

00:14:17.000 And he was like, it was like something insane, like $100 a glass or something like that.

00:14:20.000 I'm like, what?

00:14:21.000 Really? 0.99

00:14:22.000 And I'm like, what the fuck does it taste like? 0.99

00:14:23.000 And he let me try some of it. 0.98

00:14:24.000 Because he was like, wow, that is kind of a strange thing to have created.

00:14:28.000 It's a very distinct sort of taste.

00:14:31.000 But I wouldn't say it's good.

00:14:32.000 Right?

00:14:33.000 Yeah, no.

00:14:33.000 None of it's good.

00:14:34.000 No.

00:14:35.000 Just cheap whiskey is good.

00:14:37.000 The feeling of it is good.

00:14:38.000 Yeah.

00:14:39.000 So where are you coming back from, man?

00:14:41.000 What's the latest world travels?

00:14:42.000 Well, we've been shooting a lot.

00:14:45.000 So we shot January and February in Afghanistan, which was seriously heavy because we did a story on...

00:14:55.000 Child suicide bombers.

00:14:56.000 And so we got incredible access to kids who actually were caught before they could ignite their vests.

00:15:04.000 And then we met the senior Taliban guy in Kabul who is supposedly supposed to be in Pakistan, but we actually interviewed him in Kabul.

00:15:13.000 Everyone's freaking out about that because they didn't know he was in Kabul.

00:15:17.000 So you sat down with this guy?

00:15:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:21.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:15:21.000 What was that like? 0.71

00:15:24.000 They don't have a good outfit for sort of looking benevolent.

00:15:30.000 He looked like the devil.

00:15:32.000 He looked really bad and evil.

00:15:35.000 And I asked him about child suicide bombing because they're using younger and younger kids now because they get past the checkpoints.

00:15:44.000 And he said, yeah.

00:15:46.000 You know, they actually admitted on air that they were using children as suicide, as transportation devices for dynamite.

00:15:55.000 Wow.

00:15:57.000 I mean, that's the best way to describe it.

00:16:00.000 Transportation devices for dynamite. 0.81

00:16:03.000 They've essentially said, you know, not only are we willing to kill our own, we'll kill innocent. 0.99

00:16:08.000 We'll kill children to further our agenda. 1.00

00:16:12.000 That's scary shit. 1.00

00:16:13.000 That's fucking scary shit, man. 1.00

00:16:16.000 What was it like talking to that guy? 1.00

00:16:20.000 Well, you know, so he was arrested for kidnapping Westerners and UN people.

00:16:30.000 And he had been imprisoned and somehow gotten out in Pakistan.

00:16:33.000 So the Pakistanis let him out.

00:16:35.000 And then he'd snuck back into Kabul.

00:16:37.000 So you're meeting a guy who's been arrested many times for kidnapping Westerners for political means.

00:16:42.000 So that's weird.

00:16:43.000 Two is you go out and he's surrounded by his Talib soldiers. 0.98

00:16:47.000 So he's got like 20 or 30 guys in the courtyard all sort of checking you out.

00:16:53.000 And then if you say anything wrong or do anything wrong, then You know, they'll just take you away. 0.99

00:16:59.000 They don't give a shit. 0.99

00:17:01.000 Right. 1.00

00:17:01.000 So, it was a bit nerve-wracking, and he's a seriously bad dude. 1.00

00:17:05.000 I mean, he was a commander in the Mujahideen, and then he became Taliban, and then was one of the senior commanders when they were in control of all of Afghanistan, and then had to flee to Pakistan, and now he's back.

00:17:18.000 Do they know who let him out and why?

00:17:21.000 Well, the Pakistani government has been sponsoring the Taliban.

00:17:27.000 Isn't that incredible that they can get people into jail over there and then they can just sort of let them out?

00:17:34.000 Really bad guys that people have tried so hard to capture.

00:17:40.000 They're resisting this whole idea.

00:17:42.000 Well, it's also 100% corrupt.

00:17:44.000 I mean, you can buy your way out of jail in Pakistan, buy your way out of jail in Afghanistan, but if you're On the right side of the ISI in Pakistan, which the Taliban are, then you can do whatever you want. 0.64

00:17:56.000 But the ISI were the ones protecting Bin Laden.

00:17:58.000 So how does something like this, I mean whatever you can say about it, how does something like this get arranged?

00:18:06.000 Well, in Afghanistan we're lucky because there was a guy named Saad Mashuni who runs Tolo News, which is the sort of main news, you know, pro-Western news in Afghanistan.

00:18:19.000 And so he, you know, had a lot of...

00:18:23.000 He can get you to sort of see anybody in Afghanistan.

00:18:27.000 And so he got us in to talk to the suicide bombers, the kids, and he got us in to talk to the secret police about that, and he got us in to talk to the Taliban.

00:18:37.000 So you set up this meeting with this guy.

00:18:39.000 How long is the entire meeting?

00:18:42.000 Maybe an hour.

00:18:43.000 So how long have you in his presence?

00:18:46.000 The whole time you're in his presence just an hour?

00:18:48.000 Yeah, like an hour.

00:18:48.000 Just straight in, start, get out.

00:18:50.000 How do you get out of that kind of conversation?

00:18:52.000 That seems like a conversation that should take a hundred years.

00:18:56.000 Do you have to tiptoe when you're discussing things?

00:18:59.000 Are you biting your tongue?

00:19:01.000 Well, I had to ask him a lot of unpleasant questions.

00:19:04.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:19:05.000 How did you do that?

00:19:07.000 Well, you know, for example, I'd say, you know, you were a Mujahideen general.

00:19:13.000 You know what it's like to lead troops.

00:19:15.000 You know, these people trained to fight.

00:19:18.000 How do you feel about sending, you know, six-year-olds, you know, to be transportation devices for bombs?

00:19:27.000 And so you couch it in such a way that, like, you're a general and...

00:19:31.000 Right, right, right, right.

00:19:32.000 Because generally a lot of the Taliban fighters themselves, you know, don't condone the suicide bombing, but he did. 0.80

00:19:40.000 He said, well, he wouldn't answer it.

00:19:41.000 He said, there's a Pashtun saying, there's a tiger above me and a river below me, i.e., like, I'm screwed if I do and screw him if I don't, so he wouldn't talk to us about it.

00:19:52.000 Wow. 0.90

00:19:53.000 Yeah.

00:19:54.000 How often are they having suicide bombs go off over there?

00:19:59.000 About 200 times a year, so nearly every day there's a suicide bomb, and they're getting more and more effective. 0.98

00:20:07.000 They just had the first civilian suicide bomb, so not military targets, and it was a complete disaster.

00:20:18.000 They actually had seven suicide bombers.

00:20:20.000 Not a lot of people maybe know this in America, but there was an empty building across the way from the American Embassy and they had these seven suicide attackers actually dressed in burqas with their weapons under the burqas take over the building and they held the American Embassy hostage with like a full-on firefight in the middle of Kabul for over 24 hours before they could kill these seven dudes.

00:20:44.000 It was crazy.

00:20:46.000 We have footage of it all. 0.97

00:20:47.000 And it's totally fucking insane. 1.00

00:20:49.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:20:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:20:52.000 But what the Taliban guy says, which is pretty interesting, is that they use suicide attackers and suicide bombers because that's what's going to get America out. 1.00

00:21:03.000 And you go, well, you know, fuck you. 1.00

00:21:05.000 But in reality, that's true. 1.00

00:21:07.000 Because what happened is America went in to get Al-Qaeda and the Taliban out of Afghanistan.

00:21:13.000 And now our government is negotiating with the Taliban to see exactly how much power they'll have when we leave.

00:21:19.000 So you're like, okay, well...

00:21:22.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:21:25.000 What a clusterfuck. 1.00

00:21:26.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:28.000 None of this is being reported in the mainstream news.

00:21:30.000 It's certainly not being talked about like that.

00:21:33.000 You see Karzai sits down with Obama, and they all seem to be playing nice-nice with each other.

00:21:39.000 And this is all what's going on behind the scenes.

00:21:42.000 Yeah, I mean, it's been reported that they've started to negotiate with the Taliban.

00:21:50.000 I was surprised that there hasn't been sort of more outrage because people, I guess, are so sick of the war.

00:21:54.000 They're just like, well, fine, you know, they're negotiating with them, but...

00:21:59.000 So who is negotiating?

00:22:00.000 The United States is?

00:22:01.000 Yeah, and NATO, yeah.

00:22:05.000 And what are they negotiating?

00:22:08.000 Power.

00:22:09.000 When the Americans leave, how much power they'll have, how they're going to share power, etc., etc.

00:22:14.000 Wow.

00:22:15.000 Yeah.

00:22:17.000 Isn't that the whole purpose of this?

00:22:19.000 Is try to stop those guys?

00:22:20.000 Yes.

00:22:20.000 And then they're negotiating with them about how much power they get.

00:22:23.000 Yes.

00:22:23.000 So what does that mean?

00:22:24.000 That means we lost the war?

00:22:26.000 Are Americans ever going to say we lost a war?

00:22:28.000 We're like that dude. 1.00

00:22:30.000 You could beat our dick into the dirt for a hundred years. 0.99

00:22:32.000 And we're like, that wasn't even a war. 0.99

00:22:34.000 It was a conflict.

00:22:35.000 It was a police action.

00:22:36.000 Yeah.

00:22:37.000 We will never admit that.

00:22:39.000 We don't even admit we lost Vietnam.

00:22:41.000 We pulled out of Vietnam.

00:22:42.000 It's like, whatever. 1.00

00:22:43.000 We got tired of kicking your ass. 1.00

00:22:45.000 This is a weird country, man. 1.00

00:22:48.000 You know, Afghanistan, they for sure 100% lost Afghanistan. 0.93

00:22:51.000 I mean, what did you do?

00:22:54.000 Yeah, what happened?

00:22:54.000 You went in to try to get the Taliban out.

00:22:56.000 Now you're negotiating to give them power back.

00:22:59.000 Ten years, all that money, all those lives lost.

00:23:02.000 And for what?

00:23:03.000 What's the end result?

00:23:04.000 Because actually, when you're there, you realize, oh, the minute the Americans leave, there'll be a civil war.

00:23:09.000 So it's going to be back in the exact situation of a civil war with a massive Taliban presence in Afghanistan.

00:23:17.000 So, 12 years down the drain.

00:23:19.000 My God, what a mess.

00:23:21.000 How horrible must it feel to the families of people who lost children over there?

00:23:24.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:23:25.000 And then you just realize this whole thing was a clusterfuck. 0.94

00:23:28.000 The thing that gets me is just, how does anybody look at Vietnam and not learn? 0.97

00:23:33.000 How do we not learn? 1.00

00:23:35.000 It's like, this is the same shit. 1.00

00:23:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:38.000 It's the exact same shit. 1.00

00:23:39.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:23:39.000 We get manipulated into these wars by special interests. 1.00

00:23:43.000 And this is exactly what it is, folks. 0.98

00:23:45.000 And you've been tricked into thinking that this was some fucking, some justice mission. 0.98

00:23:51.000 You know? 0.99

00:23:52.000 Exactly.

00:23:52.000 It's madness.

00:23:55.000 What do you think they're over there for?

00:23:56.000 What's the number one resource they're trying to grab over there?

00:24:00.000 Who?

00:24:01.000 The United States.

00:24:03.000 Well, I think they got into a war.

00:24:05.000 I shouldn't say the United States.

00:24:06.000 What I should say is the corporations that are trying to profit from this.

00:24:12.000 Look, I think they had to go in because they couldn't just go into Iraq.

00:24:15.000 Iraq was about oil. 0.99

00:24:18.000 They couldn't just go into Iraq.

00:24:19.000 They had to say, well, we have to go get the guys who did this from 9-11.

00:24:22.000 And then they went in.

00:24:24.000 But they could have gone in with a surgical team, got the guys, and got out.

00:24:26.000 I mean, you don't have to take over the whole country.

00:24:29.000 Right.

00:24:30.000 Why do you think that they had to say, we're going to go into Iraq, excuse me, Afghanistan as well?

00:24:35.000 Like, why?

00:24:36.000 Well, because Iraq was a complete construct. 1.00

00:24:39.000 They made it all up.

00:24:40.000 That's 100%.

00:24:40.000 They're like, they're trying to tie Iraq with 9-11.

00:24:44.000 You're like, well, it had nothing to do with it.

00:24:46.000 Iraq, 100% to do with oil.

00:24:48.000 With oil.

00:24:49.000 Well, they manufactured why we went there.

00:24:52.000 9-11 was like, yes, they already had plans to go in there before, but 9-11 would say, yes, we're going to go in there after Al-Qaeda.

00:24:59.000 But they knew that they had to actually go to the place where it was.

00:25:02.000 They had to do the true thing so that they could get what they wanted, which was Iraq. 0.96

00:25:06.000 Oh, so you feel like Afghanistan was almost like a secondary operation?

00:25:11.000 100%, yeah.

00:25:12.000 Whoa. 0.99

00:25:13.000 And then it became the primary operation because it was such a clusterfuck. 0.86

00:25:17.000 Well, what about all the resources that they keep finding over there? 0.69

00:25:20.000 Like they just found trillions of dollars in minerals.

00:25:22.000 Do you think that plays a part in the idea to occupy as well?

00:25:26.000 Maybe.

00:25:26.000 I mean, I think that now what's happening is Chinese companies are coming in as they do because they're sort of not blame-free, but they're sort of like, oh, we haven't been conflicted by this conflict.

00:25:39.000 Much like they've done in Africa, you know, wherever America sort of, you know, pissed people off or done bad things, and China just comes in and says, oh, we'll trade with you, you know. 0.56

00:25:48.000 That's got to be a trip, man.

00:25:51.000 Well, because America goes and sees things, and for better or for worse, let's try to fix it, and then there's problems, and then they put sanctions on people. 0.99

00:26:00.000 And China just says, I don't give a shit what you do. 1.00

00:26:02.000 Wow. 1.00

00:26:02.000 You can do whatever you want to do. 1.00

00:26:03.000 Just give me your...

00:26:04.000 Tritium or whatever it is.

00:26:06.000 Wow, China just rocks a Game of Thrones style. 0.76

00:26:08.000 Yeah.

00:26:08.000 They go old school empire ways.

00:26:10.000 We don't impose any... 1.00

00:26:12.000 We got our own fucking problems. 1.00

00:26:13.000 We got a billion people living on one patch of dirt. 1.00

00:26:16.000 Exactly.

00:26:17.000 Wow.

00:26:18.000 Yeah, they're always going to beat Americans with that attitude.

00:26:21.000 Yeah.

00:26:21.000 As far as business goes and getting into creepy places.

00:26:24.000 Right.

00:26:25.000 They'll just sneak right in.

00:26:27.000 So they're in Afghanistan, you think, trying to get these minerals.

00:26:30.000 Right.

00:26:31.000 Yeah, well, for sure.

00:26:32.000 Chinese companies are in there.

00:26:33.000 I mean, there's a lot of companies in there, but the problem is going to be stability because the minute Americans pull out, it's going to be full-on civil war.

00:26:42.000 So you can't really go and get minutes when people are shooting rockets at you. 0.98

00:26:46.000 Now, knowing what a clusterfuck it is, knowing how crazy it is, was it like being over there, you as a person, as an outsider, a Canadian, in fact, out there watching this fucking chaos and filming it? 0.98

00:26:58.000 What was that like for you? 0.99

00:27:00.000 You know, I got on the plane to come home and I was on my iPod. 0.99

00:27:04.000 I need a fucking drink now. 0.93

00:27:06.000 I was on my iPod or the iPad and, you know, there was a plane, you know, it was like soaring through the air and you could see space and all this stuff. 0.98

00:27:14.000 And because when you're in Afghanistan, it sort of feels like 5,000 years ago because everything's sort of, you know, these sort of mud huts and it's sun-baked and it looks like it hasn't, a lot of it looks like it hasn't changed in 5,000 years.

00:27:28.000 So you really sort of, wow, this is modernity.

00:27:32.000 This is the modern age.

00:27:34.000 This is the 21st century.

00:27:35.000 Because we have all these crazy things that you can sort of tweet from Afghanistan or whatever.

00:27:40.000 Technology. 0.99

00:27:41.000 But then these, at the same time, you have this sort of devolution where we're sending kids to blow our shit up because it's effective. 0.92

00:27:54.000 And so there's been a lot of what I've seen this past year, this past year of shooting, which is it feels like half of humanity is just going completely backwards. 0.99

00:28:08.000 Now, seeing that and then flying back into New York City, what the fuck does that contrast feel like? 0.91

00:28:15.000 You take these mad trips and then when you come home and you see... 0.93

00:28:18.000 What's possible at the apex of civilization right now as far as cities and a place where you can go safely and a place that doesn't have guns and bombs blowing up constantly.

00:28:30.000 No wonder why that's where the terrorist attacks occurred.

00:28:33.000 No wonder why that's where the September 11th attacks occurred, right? 0.93

00:28:36.000 For sure.

00:28:37.000 I mean, it was, you know, incredibly successful.

00:28:40.000 You know, when you fly in, you still see that the Twin Towers aren't there.

00:28:43.000 Actually, we start our piece with that.

00:28:45.000 Because we say, actually, the most successful suicide bombing of all time was 9-11, suicide attack.

00:28:53.000 Because it started the Iraq War. 0.87

00:28:57.000 It started Afghanistan. 0.74

00:28:59.000 You know, both of which are still going on.

00:29:02.000 And, you know, completely polarized the world.

00:29:05.000 And it actually...

00:29:06.000 Suicide attacks were, and when we did the research, it was a few months ago, and I've had a few ales, so don't quote me on the exact percentages, but the percentages are insane.

00:29:17.000 It was like suicide attacks were 3-5% of all terrorism before 9-11, and now they're like 97% of all.

00:29:26.000 Jesus Christ.

00:29:27.000 Yeah, because it's so successful. 0.85

00:29:29.000 What is it like as a sane, rational person traveling around to the most fucked up places on Earth and seeing humanity at its worst? 0.99

00:29:38.000 What the fuck does that feel like? 0.99

00:29:41.000 That's a hard question. 0.98

00:29:43.000 You're such a nice guy.

00:29:45.000 You're such a jovial guy.

00:29:46.000 Every time I see you, you're smiling and hugging people. 0.98

00:29:49.000 You seem like such a warm and friendly person for you to get thrust constantly into these horrific situations where you get to see people just handed the shittiest fucking hand of cards in the history of life. 0.95

00:30:02.000 Like, here you are, 2012, the internet's here, the fucking, you know, the age of information is here, but you're involved in some sort of crazy religious war, and people are blowing themselves up when they're six. 0.96

00:30:13.000 You're in the worst spot. 0.94

00:30:15.000 Yeah, well, I mean, you, the reason why I'm happy is because you're thankful for what you have when you see what, you know, everybody else doesn't have.

00:30:25.000 Were you happy before you did all this?

00:30:27.000 Yeah, I'm a pretty happy guy.

00:30:29.000 So it just enhanced your happiness to see how fortunate you are and your circumstances.

00:30:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:30:35.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

00:30:36.000 That's a serious trip to be spending a large percentage of your time on this earth seeing the terrible spots. 1.00

00:30:45.000 Most people are trying to fly into Hawaii for the weekend and chill.

00:30:49.000 You know what I mean?

00:30:50.000 Your job is to go to some of the scariest parts on earth.

00:30:54.000 Yeah.

00:30:57.000 It doesn't seem that freaky at the time because you just want to get the story and like, yes, we got into Somalia.

00:31:04.000 We're going to hang out with the pirates.

00:31:06.000 You're like, yes, we've been working on that for a while.

00:31:08.000 Did you guys go to the Somalia and hang out with the pirates?

00:31:10.000 Yeah.

00:31:11.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

00:31:12.000 But then you get in there and you're nervous and, you know, fuck. 1.00

00:31:17.000 You didn't think they would kidnap you? 1.00

00:31:19.000 Well, we pay them to kidnap us because you pay the kidnapping fee.

00:31:23.000 How much is the kidnapping fee?

00:31:25.000 Fifteen grand.

00:31:26.000 So you pay them what they would charge for a kidnapping, but not to kidnap you.

00:31:31.000 Whoa.

00:31:32.000 Yeah.

00:31:32.000 Which is fine.

00:31:33.000 I mean, it's like just saying, well, you know...

00:31:36.000 Fifteen grand seems pretty reasonable.

00:31:37.000 That's all it is?

00:31:38.000 Yeah.

00:31:39.000 But isn't it more for other people if they catch some billionaire yacht people?

00:31:43.000 We did a bunch of shooting.

00:31:44.000 We shot a lot in Kenya with refugees and we shot around Puntland and now we're shooting Mogadishu to round it up. 1.00

00:31:55.000 It depends on the show.

00:31:57.000 But anyway, so when you're there, all you're thinking about is, you know, we've got to get the shot, or we've got to get this, or we've got to get that.

00:32:02.000 And it's only when you come back, and you're sort of having dinner somewhere, and they're like, where were you?

00:32:07.000 Oh, I was with the pirates in Mogadishu.

00:32:09.000 Jesus!

00:32:10.000 Christ!

00:32:11.000 But you don't really think about it so much at the time.

00:32:13.000 A lot of people are horrified about the Somali pirates and they're like, this is a terrible situation. 0.93

00:32:18.000 But what they don't understand is that those people really got fucked into that situation. 0.93

00:32:23.000 They had almost no choice. 0.97

00:32:24.000 The Somali pirates started out when these Somali soldiers would go after people who were dumping toxic waste off their shores.

00:32:36.000 It was killing all their fish and poisoning their people.

00:32:39.000 And these are, they're a fisherman's culture. 0.93

00:32:41.000 I mean, could you imagine you're a culture of fishermen?

00:32:45.000 And, you know, they don't have a history of going after people and kidnapping people. 1.00

00:32:49.000 They're just trying to fucking make a living, and all of a sudden some assholes are, you know, driving around in their boats, floating around a couple miles out, just dumping horrible shit into their ocean. 0.99

00:33:00.000 And it's fucking up the whole ocean, and they get to see it right before their eyes. 1.00

00:33:04.000 They're the mother earth becoming, you know, Poisoned. 0.77

00:33:09.000 The fish poisoning and people getting poisoned and sick.

00:33:12.000 So they started kidnapping them.

00:33:13.000 They started kidnapping those people and demanding ransom from these companies that have poisoned their water.

00:33:17.000 And then they started saying, you know what? 1.00

00:33:19.000 Fuck it. 1.00

00:33:19.000 Let's just kidnap anybody who drives by. 1.00

00:33:21.000 That's what we do now.

00:33:22.000 And that's what it became. 1.00

00:33:23.000 Those asshole corporations that were dumping their shit off the Somalia coast, they made monsters. 1.00

00:33:28.000 You know, those people should be fucking held responsible for a cleanup just as much as they should be responsible for a toxic cleanup. 1.00

00:33:34.000 They should be responsible for a cultural cleanup. 0.99

00:33:37.000 If they can actually find out who dumped all that shit and all the different corporations involved, it's probably a whole lot of them. 0.97

00:33:42.000 They could probably get a fuckload of money out of it if the world had any sort of a real court. 0.99

00:33:47.000 Well, the problem is a lot of it was radioactive waste.

00:33:52.000 So it irradiated the sea and irradiated the beaches.

00:33:55.000 And before that, Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese, and Spanish fishing companies completely overfished it and then irradiated it. 0.99

00:34:04.000 So they were totally fucked. 0.92

00:34:05.000 There's actually a great movie called Fishing Without Nets, which is about that. 0.99

00:34:10.000 They were all fishermen and now there's no fish.

00:34:13.000 So they just take the same boat out and then they go.

00:34:16.000 Wow.

00:34:17.000 We're working on a story there right now about the American government is financing sort of Islamist extremists, you know, to fight al-Shabaab who are, you know, the bad boys over there.

00:34:31.000 And so we're trying to figure out if that's true.

00:34:34.000 So the story is that the American government is funding Muslim extremists who are going to fight these bad guys in Africa. 0.59

00:34:41.000 Exactly the same as what happened in Afghanistan.

00:34:43.000 The Mujahideen against the Soviet Union.

00:34:44.000 And then they became the Taliban. 0.59

00:34:46.000 Jesus Christ.

00:34:48.000 We just don't ever learn.

00:34:50.000 But how does one fix this mess that we're in?

00:34:54.000 How does one put the world straight on its axis?

00:35:00.000 Or does that ever happen?

00:35:03.000 Is this just the way people roll? 0.87

00:35:04.000 We're just fucking constantly involved in chaos and love at the same time? 0.94

00:35:10.000 Well, a lot of people... 0.83

00:35:14.000 Meddling other people's stuff and then we have to go and we have to save them and you're like you know we have to save them from who themselves you know like oh you know Saddam was such a bad guy as opposed to who you know supposed to like Charles Taylor like you know so there's a lot of geopolitics and you know sort of geopolitical you know gamesmanship It has been the cause of a lot of these problems, but now it's 99% always economics. 0.59

00:35:42.000 If you look at, we have resource-based wealth, one in every three countries with resource-based wealth has a civil war every four years, whereas the remaining countries don't have any civil wars or haven't had a civil war for a hundred years.

00:36:00.000 The percentages are insane.

00:36:01.000 So now, like Afghanistan, you were just saying, but a lot of the African countries now, they're like, oh, rare earth metals that didn't used to be worth money are now in every cell phone.

00:36:13.000 So the war in the Congo is now the 10th bloodiest war in history, and it's all because of Coltan, which is needed to make iPads and iPhones.

00:36:22.000 It's so ironic that at the height of technology, the iPad 3, front-facing camera, HD screen, if you follow that all the way down, there's an African boy that's picking out this mineral out of a hole in the earth. 1.00

00:36:37.000 That spectrum is quite fascinating.

00:36:42.000 That spectrum goes back to just the invention of tools and figuring out iron and shit, pulling stuff out of the earth all the way to the height of technology. 0.91

00:36:52.000 We're weird, man. 0.99

00:36:53.000 We are fucking strange. 0.99

00:36:55.000 Human beings are so bizarre. 1.00

00:36:57.000 How much do you look at life?

00:37:00.000 I mean, your experiences are far more extreme than mine, and most people on this planet, I think.

00:37:05.000 How do you...

00:37:06.000 Do you look at this sometimes like it's a big work of fiction? 0.97

00:37:10.000 Do you look at life sometimes like, this is just fucking so nutty, it doesn't seem like it could be real? 0.98

00:37:15.000 I mean, if anybody has seen the nuttiest... 1.00

00:37:17.000 You might have witnessed some of the nuttiest shit on Earth. 0.99

00:37:21.000 And come back to talk about it. 1.00

00:37:23.000 I mean, you've got, in one life, think of all the fucking places you've been. 0.98

00:37:28.000 Does it feel real? 0.97

00:37:31.000 What we always say about vice, what's the political sort of stance of vice?

00:37:36.000 We say, we don't have one.

00:37:37.000 It's that the modern condition is absurd. 0.99

00:37:39.000 There's the absurdity of fucking this modern. 0.99

00:37:42.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:37:43.000 Like, it's fucking nuts. 0.99

00:37:44.000 And then when you go out and see exactly how nuts it is, it keeps getting crazier and crazier and crazier. 0.99

00:37:51.000 Cities get bigger.

00:37:52.000 Stories are more insane.

00:37:54.000 You know, we were just shooting in Karachi, which is a completely failed city.

00:37:58.000 They have 100 plus killings a night. 0.97

00:38:01.000 You can hire a killer there to kill someone for 10 bucks.

00:38:06.000 Actually, we rode around with one of these contract killers. 0.97

00:38:09.000 And it's just shocking.

00:38:12.000 You rode around with a contract killer?

00:38:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:38:15.000 What the fuck is that like? 0.99

00:38:17.000 Well, Saru Shaovi, my partner, did that story because I wouldn't have lasted long in doing that story in Karachi. 0.99

00:38:23.000 Why wouldn't you have lasted?

00:38:25.000 Well, Karachi is run by gangs, by Haqqani Network, who are Taliban-related sort of mafia gang family.

00:38:36.000 And then they have various Balochistan gangs, and then they have the heroin trafficking gangs.

00:38:45.000 And they're all fighting each other continually.

00:38:47.000 It's insanely violent, and basically, if you're Caucasian, there's no tourists there, for example. 1.00

00:38:57.000 There's no reason for you to be there. 1.00

00:38:58.000 It's just complete Wild West shit. 0.99

00:39:01.000 It's so hard for people in Pasadena to believe, you know, driving around in Pasadena, that this co-exists on the Earth at the same time as life. 1.00

00:39:10.000 You have to picture it's like Escape from New York or something.

00:39:12.000 I mean, Karachi's bigger than New York.

00:39:15.000 And it's just...

00:39:16.000 What part of the world is it again?

00:39:18.000 It's Pakistan, but it's on the ocean. 1.00

00:39:20.000 And it's a huge city. 0.99

00:39:24.000 And it's just complete fucking anarchy. 1.00

00:39:27.000 Complete fucking chaos. 1.00

00:39:28.000 Whoa. 1.00

00:39:29.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:39:30.000 It's a war.

00:39:31.000 It's a war zone.

00:39:31.000 How many millions of people live in this city?

00:39:33.000 18 to 20 million.

00:39:35.000 Jesus Christ!

00:39:36.000 But all just going crazy.

00:39:37.000 18 to 20 million people live in Wild West.

00:39:40.000 How do we not know about this?

00:39:42.000 How do we not know about this?

00:39:44.000 That's incredible.

00:39:45.000 Well, people know that Karachi's bad.

00:39:47.000 Not like you described it.

00:39:49.000 You described it like a movie. 0.97

00:39:50.000 Like if Steven Spielberg decided to make a movie about that and told you that that city's going down right now on Earth, you'd be like, bitch, you don't think I'd know about that? 1.00

00:39:58.000 It is a movie. 0.88

00:39:59.000 I mean, don't you think that's something that would be really, really popular?

00:40:05.000 No one ever talks about that.

00:40:07.000 If they made a movie right now about that part of the world, described it the way you described it, like some crazy horror movie about civilization gone wrong.

00:40:16.000 That's what it is.

00:40:16.000 Some Mad Max reality that's existing, coexisting right now, just as big as New York.

00:40:21.000 Yeah.

00:40:22.000 We'd go, no way.

00:40:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:40:25.000 We'd go, no way.

00:40:26.000 Yeah.

00:40:27.000 Yeah, Karachi is complete chaos.

00:40:31.000 Scary as hell. 0.52

00:40:32.000 Scary as hell. 0.99

00:40:33.000 You know, Pakistanis are like, no one goes there. 1.00

00:40:35.000 Why would you go there?

00:40:36.000 No one goes there, but 20 million people live there.

00:40:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:39.000 That is crazy.

00:40:41.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:40:41.000 Just shit burning in the streets. 1.00

00:40:42.000 People pop, pop, pop. 1.00

00:40:43.000 People getting killed.

00:40:44.000 Oh, my God.

00:40:45.000 Like running gun battles through the streets.

00:40:49.000 So you couldn't go.

00:40:50.000 So you said, what does your correspondent look like?

00:40:54.000 Surush, he's Pakistani.

00:40:56.000 He also snuck into the gun markets, the Taliban gun markets, when the Americans said that the war was over.

00:41:05.000 And the Taliban were coming across into Northwest Frontier Province and getting 1,000 handmade guns.

00:41:11.000 They make their own guns by hand.

00:41:12.000 Like little kids make the guns.

00:41:14.000 And 1,000 were going over every day.

00:41:16.000 And we're like, well, if the war is over, why is it that there are 1,000 guns going across the border every day?

00:41:22.000 And so we broke that story.

00:41:24.000 That was Saroosh.

00:41:25.000 And he just went back to Pakistan. 0.99

00:41:27.000 And his story of Karachi is fucking insane. 0.98

00:41:29.000 He's got unique access, you know. 0.97

00:41:31.000 Does he have video?

00:41:32.000 Does he have footage?

00:41:33.000 Oh yeah.

00:41:34.000 When can we see this?

00:41:35.000 He has video, I think that's going to go up within the next month.

00:41:39.000 You've got to let me know the moment that comes up.

00:41:42.000 He has video of him riding around with his contract killer, obviously.

00:41:47.000 He's just sort of going from thing to thing with his gun and they wear these moped helmets.

00:41:52.000 And then, so you can't see who they are.

00:41:55.000 You know, that's an insane thing too.

00:41:57.000 They kill people for ten bucks? 0.91

00:41:59.000 Ten bucks.

00:41:59.000 There's an increase, or maybe it's just an increase of awareness, or our awareness, but there's an increase in sort of assassination availability and sort of there's been a price decrease or whatever, you know, because now we go and we see like in Karachi, They have contract killers everywhere.

00:42:18.000 We were shooting a lot recently in Juarez in northern Mexico.

00:42:22.000 And they have centenarios that get paid 200 bucks a month. 0.98

00:42:32.000 And their job is just to kill people. 1.00

00:42:35.000 Like, they're just the fucking muscle. 1.00

00:42:36.000 They're assassins, you know? 1.00

00:42:39.000 And when we were there, Juarez is actually the most dangerous town in the world for journalists.

00:42:45.000 It's the same as, so there's El Paso on the Texas side, same city, and it's one of the safest cities in America.

00:42:53.000 And then you go right across the border and it's one of the most dangerous cities in the world, but it's the most dangerous city in the world for journalists, number one.

00:43:00.000 Why is that? 0.99

00:43:02.000 Because it's the drug cartels that run it, and they're smugglers, and so they don't want anyone to ever film their shit. 0.98

00:43:07.000 So instead of, like, coming up to you when you have your camera and saying, hey, why are you carrying that camera? 0.99

00:43:11.000 What are you shooting?

00:43:12.000 They just see a camera and go, bang.

00:43:14.000 Jesus Christ.

00:43:15.000 No point in asking a question.

00:43:16.000 And they make a lot of, if you write about something, they cut off your head and they write the story on your flesh with blood and all this stuff, and so that, you know, journalists just don't go there anymore.

00:43:29.000 That is kind of crazy that we're right next to a third world country involved in the biggest drug war in the history of the world.

00:43:35.000 Most Americans are blissfully unaware.

00:43:37.000 We shot a big piece on that.

00:43:41.000 Of course you did.

00:43:43.000 Did you get embedded?

00:43:45.000 Well, we got embedded with people who were fighting.

00:43:48.000 This is a pretty freaky story, though.

00:43:50.000 I don't know how much I'm allowed to say.

00:43:52.000 Oh, really?

00:43:53.000 Give him another drink.

00:43:55.000 Give him another drink.

00:43:56.000 I can say a lot.

00:43:58.000 But it's a very complex story, and we're going to cause some waves.

00:44:04.000 But basically, we were down in Mexico.

00:44:09.000 We'd done some stuff with the cartels.

00:44:11.000 Incredibly difficult.

00:44:12.000 Most difficult...

00:44:14.000 Stories to get right now today are cartel stories because they just kill everybody.

00:44:21.000 But we started hanging out with the people who were fighting the cartels who are Mormon colonies that originated in America so that they could keep practicing polygamy. 0.97

00:44:33.000 They went to northern Mexico and they formed polygamist Mormon colonies there. 0.61

00:44:43.000 And because the colonies did well, the cartels started targeting them and started kidnapping them and killing them.

00:44:52.000 And so the Mormon colonies started arming themselves and fighting against the cartels.

00:45:02.000 So there's been a war between the Mormon colonies and the narcos. 0.67

00:45:10.000 And we went down there to live in the colonies and we were hanging out with the LeBarons, who I don't know if you've ever heard of, but they have a crazy story of they had one of their... 1.00

00:45:24.000 He believed that he had the power of blood atonement, so he was killing all the people in the church that were trying to mess with him.

00:45:30.000 So he had about 30 or maybe had 50 children, nearly 50 children, and he had them work as assassins for him in this bloody war that they had down there.

00:45:42.000 This is all happening not in the 1880s.

00:45:44.000 This is happening in the 1980s.

00:45:45.000 This is happening in, like, Blues Brothers' 80s.

00:45:47.000 Oh, my God.

00:45:48.000 And so they have this crazy war, but they arm themselves, right, because they're all fighting within the family.

00:45:53.000 And then because of that, when the narcos attacked them, they were sort of armed and ready to go and badasses, so they started fighting them.

00:46:00.000 But they're actually just one colony over from other people that they came down with, who are the Romneys. 1.00

00:46:07.000 So, Mitt Romney's father was born in one of these colonies, colonial Dublin.

00:46:14.000 And then they, now this is the question.

00:46:17.000 Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico?

00:46:19.000 Mitt Romney's father was born in a polygamous colony in northern Mexico, Chihuahua.

00:46:22.000 Jesus Christ.

00:46:24.000 Colonial Dublin. 0.56

00:46:25.000 And actually, he ran for president.

00:46:29.000 And they said, they brought up, The fact that he might have been an illegal immigrant and that he was born in a polygamous colony in Mexico.

00:46:43.000 His presidential candidacy didn't last long.

00:46:50.000 We say that in the piece.

00:46:52.000 But his sons can sneak in.

00:46:55.000 Actually, we say that out of all the Republican candidates, Mitt Romney had the staunchest stand against immigration and he sort of ignores his roots and he never talks about it.

00:47:09.000 And you say, well, I understand why.

00:47:11.000 It's completely logical because he wanted to veto the DREAM Act and he said publicly he vetoed the DREAM Act, although his father is the poster child for the DREAM Act. 0.97

00:47:19.000 But you say he would veto the DREAM Act because he wants to get away from these stories because the stories, when you dig into them, are fucking insane. 0.68

00:47:27.000 Of course he doesn't want to talk about it because polygamy battles with drug lords and, you know, complete kidnapping and insanity do not a good presidential candidate make. 0.90

00:47:40.000 How is this not mainstream?

00:47:42.000 How is this?

00:47:43.000 Is it going to come out during the presidential campaign?

00:47:46.000 Yeah, it's going to come out.

00:47:47.000 We have great footage.

00:47:49.000 Mitt Romney, is he the official nominee yet on the Republican side?

00:47:53.000 I mean, he obviously...

00:47:53.000 He will be, yeah.

00:47:55.000 He will be, but he's not official, right?

00:47:56.000 Yeah, but he will be.

00:47:58.000 But yeah, for sure it's going to come out.

00:47:59.000 I mean, the thing is, you know, it can't not come out.

00:48:07.000 People have written a little bit about it, not very much about it. 0.92

00:48:10.000 When you see a guy that's that flawed and has such an obvious story that's so beyond fucked, does it make you feel like this has all been set up? 0.79

00:48:20.000 Does it make you feel like they put him in there because they knew he couldn't win? 0.95

00:48:26.000 It doesn't make sense to me that that's the best that the Republicans can do.

00:48:29.000 I've met a lot of smart Republicans. 0.99

00:48:31.000 I've met a lot of bad motherfuckers who are just conservative and right-wing, and maybe they're a little too Bible-y. 0.99

00:48:36.000 But, you know, I've met some pretty strong-minded, very articulate Republicans. 0.99

00:48:41.000 How come they never get there? 0.99

00:48:42.000 How come we're dealing with these second-rate hacks, these guys who just fucking change their opinion when the wind blows? 0.96

00:48:49.000 How does a guy like that get to a position to be running for president? 0.97

00:48:53.000 Because that seems like that's a weak example of what a politician, a leader can be.

00:48:57.000 We've seen the JFKs. 0.66

00:48:59.000 We've seen the Bill Clinton's.

00:49:00.000 We've seen the people that have these strong voices. 0.99

00:49:03.000 When you have a guy who's the wishy-washy as Mitt Romney, who comes from a fucking religious cult that was in northern Mexico, I'm like, really? 0.99

00:49:10.000 That's the best you can do? 0.99

00:49:11.000 A multi-multi-millionaire whose father was from another country but is against immigration?

00:49:16.000 What?

00:49:19.000 I mean, look, the rumor is that they knew that the economy is going to keep going down and jobs aren't going to get better, etc., etc. 0.98

00:49:28.000 So they said, okay, we'll just put up an also-ran and then we'll get the next two terms after that because the economy is going to be shit anyway. 0.98

00:49:36.000 Put Jeb Bush on tap. 0.99

00:49:38.000 There you go.

00:49:39.000 For 2016. But I mean, Mitt Romney, it's funny because they want the anti-Obama.

00:49:46.000 So they just want to sort of...

00:49:48.000 They don't understand.

00:49:50.000 Obama's the first example I've ever seen in my life of it where it's pretty clear it doesn't matter anymore.

00:49:55.000 Whatever it takes to get into office is...

00:49:59.000 Once the politician gets there, that's all out the window.

00:50:02.000 All it is about there is keeping everything moving the exact same way it's moving right now. 0.98

00:50:06.000 Making sure these corporations make fucking billions of dollars. 0.87

00:50:10.000 Making sure that the rights of the civilians get shrunk more and more every day until it gets to this... 0.99

00:50:17.000 Global scenario that we have where the whole world is controlled by money, and money is the government.

00:50:22.000 And that seems to be where we're moving towards.

00:50:25.000 An actual real government, especially this idea of America, what it was supposed to be, you know, a government by the people.

00:50:33.000 We were going to set it up.

00:50:34.000 We were going to govern ourselves.

00:50:35.000 We were going to have a very strict set of laws and checks and balances in place to make sure this doesn't get out of hand and become what it used to be.

00:50:42.000 It doesn't work that way.

00:50:44.000 How do we fix this, Shane Smith?

00:50:46.000 How do we fix this?

00:50:48.000 You're the world traveler, man.

00:50:48.000 I think it's going to get worse because, actually, money does rule everything, and I think that it probably always has.

00:50:55.000 But, you know, if you look at communism, the synthesis of communism is that the market regulates itself, and you have a small thing for infrastructure.

00:51:03.000 Same thing.

00:51:04.000 With capitalism, David Ricardo and Adam Smith, you know, the free market sort of does need government. 0.99

00:51:12.000 And I believe that both were apologies for what was happening in the Industrial Revolution because everyone was looking around saying, this is fucked, you know, kids working in coal mines, all that shit.

00:51:24.000 But the reason why I say it's going to get worse, and I'm not actually an optimist, I'm not a doom and gloom guy, but is that money runs everything, but the problem is the money is running out, right? 0.87

00:51:35.000 So you have kids, you know, in Spain you have under 27 years old, 50% unemployment.

00:51:42.000 So you have all these young kids, and there's nothing scarier than a young kid with no future.

00:51:47.000 You've just taken away his future, you know, 17, 18, 19-year-old kid. 0.99

00:51:51.000 What the fuck does he have to lose? 0.99

00:51:53.000 And you've seen the riots in Athens. 1.00

00:51:55.000 You've seen the riots in London.

00:51:57.000 You've seen the riots in Paris.

00:51:58.000 You've seen the riots in, I mean, Tahrir Square.

00:52:01.000 You've seen it all over the world.

00:52:02.000 There's even riots in Montreal this year.

00:52:03.000 There you go.

00:52:04.000 And young people are getting more and more frustrated.

00:52:06.000 I should say protests in Montreal.

00:52:08.000 They didn't really riot.

00:52:09.000 And then the problem is that, you know...

00:52:12.000 Well, look, they have riots here now.

00:52:14.000 They have Occupy Wall Street here.

00:52:17.000 It's not going away.

00:52:19.000 It's just sort of getting more and more subversive and they're doing their own content networks and everything now.

00:52:27.000 But when you have...

00:52:30.000 Young kids rioting with nothing to lose.

00:52:33.000 Then you're going to look for radical economic solutions.

00:52:36.000 And radical economic solutions mean radical political parties.

00:52:39.000 Radical political parties hate each other.

00:52:41.000 And it's the same sort of scenario you have that started World War II. Incredible depression.

00:52:48.000 You know, somebody comes up with what seemingly is sort of fixing the depression.

00:52:52.000 Oh, we're all going to do that.

00:52:53.000 No, we're going to do the antithesis of that.

00:52:55.000 So you have communists versus fascists, etc., etc.

00:52:58.000 And both, you know, extreme sides of the spectrum.

00:53:02.000 And then they end up warring, you know, fighting. 1.00

00:53:05.000 And what's happening now is, you know, Europe is just fucked. 0.99

00:53:09.000 And it's going to get worse and worse and worse. 0.99

00:53:12.000 And there's going to be more and more radical politics, more and more kids in the streets.

00:53:16.000 And that's when I get worried and say, hold on a second, what are we going to do?

00:53:21.000 Wait until there's, you know, militias running down Berlin, Main Street, that's fighting other fucking police and whatever, Civil War, until we step in and say, hey, can we not fix this? 0.97

00:53:33.000 Because it's just getting fucking worse and worse and worse. 1.00

00:53:35.000 And sure, you see bad shit in Afghanistan, you see bad shit in South America. 1.00

00:53:39.000 We just saw it in Caracas, where it's insane, higher murder rate than America, you know, with 20 million people population, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:53:48.000 But Europe is about to fucking explode. 0.99

00:53:51.000 It's about to explode. 0.98

00:53:54.000 This all has to do with the adoption of the euro?

00:53:57.000 Is that what fucked this whole situation up?

00:54:00.000 Because Europe is all connected.

00:54:03.000 All the countries are connected now.

00:54:04.000 I think we've been in a depression because what's the difference between a recession and a depression?

00:54:11.000 The depression goes on for a cyclical economic downturn.

00:54:15.000 It lasts a longer time than a recession.

00:54:19.000 Well, because of quantitative easing, all these things, economic things, we sort of kept it at bay.

00:54:24.000 But right now, Europe's already back in recession.

00:54:27.000 China's slowed down.

00:54:27.000 India's slowed down.

00:54:28.000 America's very shortly going to slow down behind them.

00:54:31.000 There's no way we can't.

00:54:32.000 And you go, okay, well, it's another five years.

00:54:35.000 So that means, okay, well, it started in 2008. It's going to be, you know...

00:54:41.000 Eight years, nine years before we get out of this.

00:54:43.000 So economically, we had all these things that we tried to fix and it didn't work.

00:54:47.000 So now there's just no money.

00:54:49.000 No money, no jobs in the system.

00:54:50.000 So young people are the ones who get forced out. 0.99

00:54:52.000 The problem is, is young people are the first ones who are going to get out and get a stick and start bashing shit up. 0.99

00:54:57.000 Because why wouldn't they? 0.99

00:54:58.000 Of course.

00:54:59.000 I've said that's the biggest problem with this country is that everybody wants to fix everything that's happening everywhere, but they don't want to fix what's going on in the impoverished areas of this country.

00:55:09.000 There was something that was released today that I read today, a study on a message It was on my message board, but I forget what the study was, but it said that 72% of black people in this country are born to single parents and raised by single parents. 0.99

00:55:26.000 That's fucked. 1.00

00:55:27.000 That's just fucked. 1.00

00:55:29.000 If we want to start fixing things, we've got to fix this country, too. 1.00

00:55:35.000 This country could fall apart just as easily.

00:55:39.000 When you look at...

00:55:41.000 Giant patches where kids are growing up without any hope. 0.97

00:55:44.000 And that's the most fucked thing when a child, like as you said, has no future. 0.97

00:55:50.000 They feel they have no future. 0.99

00:55:52.000 And they're angry.

00:55:53.000 They feel robbed.

00:55:56.000 You're saying, well, how does it feel to come back to New York from Afghanistan?

00:56:00.000 Well, it reminded me so much of 9-11, but it was like this stark thing. 0.68

00:56:06.000 Whereas what fucked me up more was when you're in... 1.00

00:56:10.000 Mexico, like five miles from the border, and shit is fucked up. 1.00

00:56:16.000 You were just saying some of the crazy shit you've seen. 1.00

00:56:19.000 Generally, it makes you feel better about your life. 0.99

00:56:23.000 You feel, oh, I'm happy.

00:56:25.000 I have all these health and things.

00:56:27.000 But I went to a church run outside of Juarez by a sort of born-again pastor who was an ex-junkie, and he takes in sort of the refuse of Juarez. 0.80

00:56:42.000 into this church and it's like a lot of you know people with severe psychological problems people with severe drug addictions and a lot of there was two feral children not children they were adults now but they had grown up feral like on the streets sort of thing one sort of barked like a dog and but you go and they live in these cells because some of them have to be locked in and Like, 0.76

00:57:12.000 there was, you know, people with open colostomy bags and stuff, with flies buzzing around their innards and stuff, and this thing, and you're walking around, and it was, like, just crazy, fucking, just degradation, like, feral people, you know,

00:57:28.000 and, and, and, Like a nightmare like it was crazy, you know, and and they they all he has the pastor gets them to paint and all their paintings are fucking insane like we're so heavy and depressing and a lot of them are missing limbs because of you know gangrene and and so when you come from shooting there and Then I was just in Vegas for the fights and you walk around and we went out like to you know nightclub after the fights and it's just Chanel and Louis Vuitton and this and that and like everybody and You know,

00:57:58.000 on the stores, on the way to the nightclub, and then everyone dressed up, and you're like...

00:58:01.000 As human beings, we just want to forget. 0.99

00:58:05.000 You know, we just want entertainment, TV, more entertainment, just spectacular shit, just fucking lots of stuff, because it's... 0.99

00:58:13.000 We like to bury our heads in the sand, because that's just right here. 1.00

00:58:17.000 Like, that shit is happening just fucking... 1.00

00:58:19.000 You don't have to go to Afghanistan. 1.00

00:58:20.000 It's five miles from our border.

00:58:23.000 And so...

00:58:25.000 You know, that's what you think when you come back from places like that.

00:58:29.000 And by the way, all the guns, when we were there, it's the largest haul of ammunition.

00:58:35.000 It was over 250,000 rounds of ammunition, 7.60 ammunition.

00:58:39.000 And it was coming from America.

00:58:40.000 And I was like, oh, that's, you know, strange.

00:58:43.000 They're like, no, all the guns are coming from America.

00:58:44.000 All the guns, all the ammunition coming from America, all the drugs comes up from here, and all the money comes from America.

00:58:55.000 Well, what was that one crazy DEA idea?

00:58:58.000 They were going to sell guns.

00:59:02.000 Fast and the Furious.

00:59:03.000 Yeah, they sold guns.

00:59:04.000 With markers.

00:59:05.000 Yeah, so that they could find out who was using the guns, and those guns were directly used to kill agents.

00:59:10.000 Yeah.

00:59:11.000 Well, they figured that was a scam.

00:59:14.000 It was a scam.

00:59:15.000 Yeah.

00:59:15.000 And that they just pretended that it was a mission.

00:59:19.000 I mean, just the fact that they could ever justify selling fucking guns. 0.99

00:59:24.000 Lots of guns. 1.00

00:59:25.000 To Mexican drug dealers. 0.88

00:59:27.000 They had the...

00:59:29.000 How could they possibly think that that would...

00:59:30.000 They had a killer caught with the CIA, the old director of the CIA's ceremonial pistol.

00:59:38.000 Whoa.

00:59:39.000 Like, you know, it has, like, director of the CIA on it. 1.00

00:59:42.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:59:45.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:59:48.000 Just the fact that they could say that that was an operation, and they could say, oh, this is what we're going to do. 0.99

00:59:53.000 The way we're going to track the network, we have to actually sell them real guns. 0.70

00:59:58.000 Yeah, the Mexicans laugh at it. 1.00

01:00:00.000 It's hilarious.

01:00:01.000 They're like, this is what the Americans are doing, just giving free guns to the narcos? 0.99

01:00:06.000 In order to find out what rapists are like, I'm going to have to go get my duck sucked a lot. 0.99

01:00:10.000 I'm going to really have to find out what it's like to rape people. 1.00

01:00:13.000 So I'm going to have to do some raping. 1.00

01:00:15.000 What? 1.00

01:00:17.000 The fuck? 1.00

01:00:18.000 How is no one getting... 1.00

01:00:19.000 Why is no one going to jail for that?

01:00:23.000 Well, I mean, God knows.

01:00:26.000 The majority of the police down in Mexico are corrupt, so every time the Americans try to do something with them, it just gets, you know.

01:00:34.000 Well, how's no one in the American DEA going to jail for that?

01:00:39.000 I don't know, man. 0.97

01:00:41.000 That just seems like the most ridiculous idea of all time. 0.94

01:00:45.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:00:45.000 The worst guy I've ever heard about is a guy named Al Rikin. 0.98

01:00:49.000 And he's a narco that was fighting one of the Mormon colonies. 0.80

01:00:54.000 But he's famous for, you know, he's obviously the drug dealers.

01:00:59.000 And so he went into a drug rehab center.

01:01:02.000 Or he didn't, but he had his people.

01:01:04.000 Massacre them all, 18 different people in a drug rehab center, just for being in a drug rehab center. 0.98

01:01:12.000 This is a very bad guy.

01:01:15.000 And he kidnapped and killed some of the Mormon, the LeBaron family. 0.98

01:01:21.000 But he is famous for getting caught on the other side of the border, on the American side of the border, with a Mexican military convoy filled with something like 15 tons of pot.

01:01:35.000 And they had a firefight with the American Border Patrol, and then they came back into Mexico, and they knew who it was.

01:01:43.000 They knew he had had a firefight, but he went back to where he lives, which is eight miles down the road from the Mormons, and the Mexican government didn't do anything.

01:01:55.000 Whoa.

01:01:57.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:02:00.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:02:05.000 Yeah, El Riquin. 1.00

01:02:08.000 What a ballsy move. 0.93

01:02:11.000 You want a water or something, man?

01:02:13.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:02:14.000 Reach it.

01:02:16.000 There you go.

01:02:19.000 If you need more, there's a fridge right behind you.

01:02:21.000 I'll grab you one.

01:02:22.000 Or get some cigarettes.

01:02:24.000 Does that help?

01:02:24.000 Yeah.

01:02:28.000 Maybe.

01:02:29.000 What a ballsy move. 1.00

01:02:30.000 That guy gets in a fucking armored car boy with weed and drives to America. 1.00

01:02:36.000 And has a firefight with him. 1.00

01:02:38.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:02:39.000 How are these Mormons getting around in Mexico? 1.00

01:02:42.000 Do they all take convoys now? 1.00

01:02:44.000 Are they heavily armed and shit? 0.99

01:02:46.000 They're heavily armed, yeah. 0.99

01:02:47.000 So do they drive around with tanks?

01:02:49.000 What do they do?

01:02:50.000 Because I know a lot of the drug cartels, they have tanks now.

01:02:53.000 They have trucks with guns and stuff.

01:02:56.000 So the Mormons drive around like they're in war. 0.98

01:02:58.000 Yeah.

01:02:59.000 Wow.

01:03:00.000 What a nutty thing it must be for them, huh?

01:03:03.000 Yeah.

01:03:03.000 Living in Mexico.

01:03:04.000 They are at war.

01:03:05.000 And they can't get out of there.

01:03:07.000 Are they trying to plan to get out of there?

01:03:08.000 They can get out of there.

01:03:09.000 A lot of them have American passports.

01:03:10.000 But they don't want to do it.

01:03:12.000 It's not like hanging with Mexicans. 1.00

01:03:13.000 These are like big, super tall cowboy hat wearing sort of Texas dudes.

01:03:18.000 But they're in Mexico.

01:03:19.000 They're in Mexico, yeah.

01:03:20.000 And they're going to war with these drug cartels. 0.99

01:03:21.000 I would think that if you're ever in a place where you're at war with drug cartels, it's time to get the fuck out of Dodge. 0.98

01:03:26.000 Yeah, we asked them that. 0.81

01:03:27.000 What'd they say?

01:03:28.000 Well, this is my country.

01:03:29.000 This is my home.

01:03:30.000 It's hard to leave your home.

01:03:31.000 Wow. 1.00

01:03:32.000 Fuck that it is. 1.00

01:03:33.000 That's some silly nonsense to me. 1.00

01:03:35.000 You know, I think people have to get over that idea. 0.97

01:03:38.000 You should live anywhere.

01:03:39.000 Get your loved ones together and move where it's safe. 1.00

01:03:41.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.96

01:03:44.000 If you have money, if you have enough to do it. 0.99

01:03:46.000 I can understand if you have to fight for your property, but that's a lost cause, that place.

01:03:51.000 Yeah, but they don't leave.

01:03:53.000 I mean, I had the same answer when I was in South Africa and we were shooting and there's a lot of violence in South Africa.

01:03:59.000 And I kept saying to people, why don't you leave?

01:04:02.000 This is our home. 1.00

01:04:04.000 Those people are idiots. 1.00

01:04:05.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:04:06.000 That's so ridiculous. 1.00

01:04:08.000 If you know there's a better spot on earth where this kind of shit doesn't happen, you can live your life in peace. 1.00

01:04:13.000 Home invasions and assassinations and institutionalized rapes and all these things are just part of the daily equation, then fuck it. 1.00

01:04:22.000 I'm not doing that. 1.00

01:04:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:04:23.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:04:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:04:26.000 The fuck, man. 1.00

01:04:27.000 How do we get the rest of the world anywhere near where we are here right now? 1.00

01:04:33.000 Is that possible?

01:04:34.000 Can the human condition evolve so much?

01:04:38.000 That we could get everybody on a higher level all across the world?

01:04:41.000 Or is this just a part of the program?

01:04:42.000 The spectrum always goes from the worst case scenario to the best case scenario, and every shade in between.

01:04:48.000 Is that just how things keep moving?

01:04:50.000 Is that just the conflict, the yin and yang?

01:04:52.000 Is that the pull and push of life?

01:04:56.000 That's the best question I've heard in a long time, but I think it's unanswerable.

01:05:01.000 If anybody would have seen the spectrum as broad as humanly possible, I would think it would be you.

01:05:07.000 I mean, the thing is, you see some things that are great, like we did a story on these scientists who are developing machines that can sort of harvest the atmosphere,

01:05:23.000 so they can take out carbon and all the harmful things in the atmosphere and then sort of reduce it to CO2, which you can make You can actually activate algae for biofuel, or you can combine them with other elements and lots of solar to make hydrogen cells.

01:05:41.000 And it might sound like we're clinging at straws here, but when you start to think, wow, if we have unlimited solar power and you have unlimited carbon, A, it stops warming, but B, you can make hydrogen cells or biofuels.

01:05:56.000 And then you say, wow, that would be interesting because you could actually put hydrogen cells into every new car.

01:06:03.000 So every new car had to have that, so that's a whole new industry that we would run because of the patents.

01:06:08.000 The only effluent that comes out of hydrogen cells is pure HO2, which we're running out of water.

01:06:16.000 So you say, hey, it could build a new economy, build this new world.

01:06:20.000 And so when you start talking to the scientists, who are really smart guys, and realizing, well, you can sort of regulate the amount of harmful toxins in the atmosphere, There is sanity.

01:06:32.000 You know, there are people coming up with ideas.

01:06:34.000 This could start a whole new economy, you know, sort of set us out on this, you know, great right track.

01:06:39.000 And you're like, wow, and you feel really good.

01:06:41.000 And maybe we are going to be smart.

01:06:42.000 Maybe we are going to put these machines to next every factory.

01:06:45.000 Maybe we are going to do this great stuff.

01:06:47.000 And then the problem is you go to Africa or Southeast Asia and, you know, we did a story on, you know, a lot of people are going, Europeans and Americans are going to Thailand, you know, to get medical vacations, they call them.

01:07:05.000 So you go there and you get a facelift and two weeks on vacation on Boracay or whatever.

01:07:10.000 And so, you know, you can get transplants, you can get this, you can get that.

01:07:14.000 So more and more people are going for medical procedures.

01:07:20.000 So it started a war between the ambulance gangs to take bodies, you know, because let's say you hurt yourself.

01:07:29.000 Well, more often than not, you're not going to arrive there.

01:07:32.000 Alive because they want to harvest your pieces.

01:07:38.000 So Bangkok body snatchers.

01:07:39.000 There's like street gangs that fight each other over the sort of dead and dying.

01:07:43.000 So say if someone falls and breaks their leg, they're not going to take you to the hospital.

01:07:48.000 They're going to take your organs.

01:07:50.000 Well, if you're injured, they're going to make sure that you don't arrive alive.

01:07:55.000 And then they harvest your organs. 0.96

01:07:56.000 So they kill you? 1.00

01:07:58.000 Yes, they let you die. 1.00

01:08:00.000 They let you die.

01:08:01.000 They don't kill you.

01:08:03.000 They let it slowly take place.

01:08:05.000 They don't give you medical attention.

01:08:06.000 We never saw anybody sort of overtly being killed.

01:08:10.000 We've heard about it, but...

01:08:11.000 You don't want to say it?

01:08:12.000 Yeah.

01:08:13.000 Okay.

01:08:14.000 Yeah.

01:08:14.000 Well, they don't seem like they're ethical.

01:08:16.000 So I wouldn't imagine that would be outside their own possibility.

01:08:19.000 But I understand exactly where you're going with that.

01:08:22.000 So on one side, you have this sort of hope.

01:08:25.000 You know what? 0.99

01:08:25.000 We're going to get our shit together. 0.99

01:08:27.000 We're going to have new fucking energy systems that aren't going to... 1.00

01:08:29.000 Armed crazy people and all this stuff. 0.99

01:08:32.000 And then you go see that and you're like, wait a minute. 1.00

01:08:35.000 We're parasites. 1.00

01:08:36.000 We're bad, bad people. 0.98

01:08:39.000 Yeah, I did this thing before my Showtime special in 2005 where I talked about human beings being a really complicated form of bacteria.

01:08:49.000 I've had this idea a few times while tripping inside tanks and even on planes.

01:08:56.000 I've had this feeling like...

01:08:58.000 If you looked at the Earth as a life force and you looked at human beings, you would say, well, that's a growth.

01:09:05.000 You would say, look, it's everywhere.

01:09:07.000 It sucks all the fish out of the ocean.

01:09:10.000 It throws waste in there and kills all the rest of the life. 1.00

01:09:13.000 It fucks everything it touches. 0.99

01:09:14.000 Everywhere it lives, there's brown smoke. 1.00

01:09:17.000 You burn down giant chunks of it, it grows right back and even gets bigger.

01:09:21.000 It's like, this is some crazy growth.

01:09:24.000 I'm like, if you didn't understand...

01:09:26.000 If you were so alien that human beings weren't identifiable as an individual... 0.93

01:09:31.000 You would look at them as a giant, huge swarm of life on top of this other life.

01:09:37.000 You wouldn't see individual people.

01:09:39.000 You would see it just like mold.

01:09:40.000 And I said that maybe we're here to eat the sandwich.

01:09:44.000 Maybe we are like mold on a sandwich.

01:09:46.000 Maybe we're just a really super complicated... 1.00

01:09:50.000 That's why at the pinnacle of technology, the best we have to do is the shit that fucks things up the most. 0.99

01:09:56.000 Like nuclear power, nuclear waste, you know, and all sorts of other crazy experiments that are probably going on right now that we're not even aware of. 0.99

01:10:05.000 Anti-matter type shit. 0.80

01:10:06.000 They're working on antimatter weapons in Area 51. What does that mean? 0.99

01:10:10.000 I don't even know.

01:10:11.000 I don't even know, but it can't be good. 1.00

01:10:13.000 It's like, what, nuclear power doesn't kill everybody quick enough, you fuckhead? 1.00

01:10:16.000 You need to develop something that kills everyone instantaneously? 1.00

01:10:20.000 We have enough bombs to blow up the whole world, like how many times over?

01:10:24.000 And they're like, yeah, but it doesn't do it quite as good as I think can be done.

01:10:28.000 So they continue to make nuttier and nuttier weapons.

01:10:31.000 Did you see that jet drone they've developed that goes something like 18 times faster than the speed of sound?

01:10:38.000 Some insane amount. 0.72

01:10:40.000 Just to get over there and fuck things up as quick as possible. 0.95

01:10:44.000 We don't need any better weapons. 0.67

01:10:46.000 We have weapons that we don't even have the first clue about now.

01:10:50.000 Well, it's whatever.

01:10:51.000 But our nature as animals, as intelligent animals, is to keep trying to make things better.

01:10:58.000 It's like if we stopped right now with cell phones and said, we good?

01:11:00.000 We good with this?

01:11:01.000 We can talk?

01:11:02.000 We can text?

01:11:02.000 This is good enough, right?

01:11:03.000 Can we just stop right there?

01:11:05.000 No one would take that.

01:11:06.000 People would go crazy. 0.98

01:11:07.000 Four years from now, they'd be fucking so mad at their iPhone. 1.00

01:11:10.000 This fucking clunky old hunk of shit. 1.00

01:11:12.000 Like, why can't they have something better than this now? 1.00

01:11:15.000 People would be angry.

01:11:16.000 We have a deep desire for technological innovation.

01:11:19.000 At the end of that is destruction. 0.99

01:11:21.000 At the very peak of technology, the best we're capable of is blowing shit up. 0.96

01:11:26.000 It makes you wonder if that's really what we're here for. 0.91

01:11:29.000 It makes you wonder if we are not some weird technological caterpillar that's becoming a butterfly. 0.99

01:11:34.000 And all of our desires and ego and the need to get pussy and drive a fast car. 1.00

01:11:39.000 All that shit really is just pushing the society. 1.00

01:11:42.000 And the society is pushing technology. 1.00

01:11:44.000 And technology, one day someone's going to press a fucking button and the whole thing... 0.98

01:11:48.000 See, now I'm not going to be so smiley anymore. 0.98

01:11:53.000 Maybe that's the way it's supposed to be, though.

01:11:55.000 Well, my theory is that that's how the universe gets born and dies with us.

01:12:02.000 And that the Bang Bang is really just a bunch of scientists with autism on anti-anxiety medication, and they make a Big Bang machine.

01:12:10.000 And one of them presses it, and the whole universe starts all over again.

01:12:14.000 And it starts again with planets forming and then life forms and then dinosaurs.

01:12:19.000 Dinosaurs get hit by an asteroid.

01:12:20.000 Billions of years go by, the whole deal, and then one guy presses a button on a big bang machine he makes.

01:12:26.000 Boom! 0.99

01:12:26.000 And it starts all over again. 0.99

01:12:28.000 Why not?

01:12:29.000 If it's possible for the universe to be the universe, that's possible too. 0.73

01:12:32.000 It's possible that it's just a bunch of scientists with autism and every 14 billion years they blow the whole fucking thing sky high and it starts from scratch.

01:12:40.000 Well, definitely we're going to have to eat, drink, and be merry then because we're all going to... 0.88

01:12:45.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:12:47.000 What do you think when you talk to these people that are like, I mean, for you, you are a realist.

01:12:52.000 You're a dude who's seen the dark parts of the world. 0.98

01:12:54.000 When you talk to people and they, you know, they start hitting you with some fucking power of positive thinking type shit and hit you with The Secret or Eckhart Tolle and, you know, like, do you want to, like, when that whole The Secret thing was going on, do you want to say, listen, your fucking environment is real, okay? 0.98

01:13:10.000 You don't create it with your mind. 0.98

01:13:12.000 Right.

01:13:12.000 It's real.

01:13:13.000 There really are parts of the world that suck, and positive thinking is not going to get you out of Mogadishu, right? 0.76

01:13:19.000 Well, we are in Pasadena. 0.76

01:13:21.000 I mean, like, you know...

01:13:22.000 Positive thinking got you here.

01:13:23.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:13:25.000 You know, New York tends to be a bit more cynical, and L.A. tends to be a bit more...

01:13:31.000 It's the weather.

01:13:31.000 ...positive thinking.

01:13:32.000 Weather and pretty girls. 0.93

01:13:33.000 That's what it does it.

01:13:34.000 That's it.

01:13:34.000 For real.

01:13:35.000 Yeah.

01:13:36.000 And space.

01:13:37.000 Space, the fact that you don't get rained on hardly ever, and it's never cold.

01:13:42.000 That's huge. 0.99

01:13:43.000 That East Coast winter thing, that's bullshit. 1.00

01:13:46.000 That's retarded. 1.00

01:13:47.000 Everybody gets angry. 0.99

01:13:48.000 Yeah, your face hurts. 1.00

01:13:50.000 That shit's no good. 1.00

01:13:51.000 You get stuck on the highway. 1.00

01:13:52.000 You ever get stuck on the highway?

01:13:53.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:13:54.000 The whole fucking highway shutdown, black ice, that's always fun. 1.00

01:13:58.000 Black. 1.00

01:13:58.000 That shit doesn't happen here. 1.00

01:14:00.000 It doesn't happen here at all. 1.00

01:14:01.000 So people are more relaxed.

01:14:03.000 It really is that. 0.97

01:14:04.000 Plus, the people that landed on the East Coast were all animals who were so fucking fed up with Europe that they got on boats. 0.96

01:14:12.000 They got on boats, and they went across an ocean before there was TV, okay? 0.94

01:14:16.000 And they decided to move to this new country that they didn't probably even have good pictures of.

01:14:21.000 You know, someone just told them there's a land of plenty, and they decided to get in a boat and give it a shot. 0.99

01:14:26.000 Those people are psycho! 1.00

01:14:28.000 I mean, those are some really adventuresome fucking people. 1.00

01:14:31.000 Well, those were the first ones. 1.00

01:14:33.000 Those were all adventuresome.

01:14:34.000 But the ones who said, okay, you're going to go out that way.

01:14:37.000 We don't know how far it is, and we don't really know if you're going to get there. 1.00

01:14:40.000 And by the way, there's all kinds of tribes that are going to try to scalp you and rape your daughters and all this shit. 0.99

01:14:47.000 As you go through there. 1.00

01:14:48.000 And there's mountains that are probably impassable.

01:14:50.000 And you're going to have to eat your kids. 1.00

01:14:52.000 Just go.

01:14:52.000 Yeah.

01:14:53.000 Go west.

01:14:54.000 Yeah.

01:14:54.000 And it was, when we say frontier, it was like the frontier.

01:14:59.000 Yeah.

01:14:59.000 It was, we don't know what's next.

01:15:01.000 We don't know what's beyond there.

01:15:03.000 And so for those people to say, I'm going to leave, I'm like a... 0.98

01:15:06.000 I'm an Irish fucking potato picker and I lived in New York for three years and that was no good. 0.98

01:15:10.000 So I'm going to go out and I'm just going to go out into fucking absolute wilderness where everybody hates me and the animals want to eat me and I'm just going to keep going until I hit the other ocean. 0.99

01:15:20.000 It's crazy. 0.96

01:15:20.000 And it's amazing how quick it happened. 0.96

01:15:22.000 It was just like, bing!

01:15:24.000 Whoosh! 0.94

01:15:25.000 Within a couple hundred years, a giant fucking swarm of millions of people had completely populated this one continent that, before that, you know, the last time people came across here was the Ice Age. 0.97

01:15:36.000 There wasn't really a lot of human beings living here. 0.95

01:15:38.000 What most people don't know is that North America, just a little over 10,000 years ago, half of it was covered by a mile of ice. 0.73

01:15:46.000 I mean, wrap your head around a mile of fucking ice above your head, and that covered half this country. 0.94

01:15:51.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:15:52.000 This country, we don't understand the history of humanity in the world.

01:15:57.000 We have a very patchy sort of knowledge of everything past the Ice Age. 0.99

01:16:05.000 About people 10,000 plus years ago, it's a lot of There's some bullshit. 0.96

01:16:10.000 There's a lot of bullshitting because there's a lot of information they're not willing to look at. 0.93

01:16:14.000 Some new stuff's come along.

01:16:16.000 New construction that they found like in Turkey.

01:16:19.000 This Gobekli Tepli that's at least 14,000 years old. 0.84

01:16:22.000 Massive, excellently cut stone columns.

01:16:26.000 Civilization.

01:16:27.000 Clear civilization.

01:16:28.000 Back in a time where they're attributing that area only as hunter-gatherers.

01:16:32.000 There is no civilization.

01:16:33.000 There's no cities. 1.00

01:16:33.000 Where's the fucking city, man? 1.00

01:16:35.000 You gotta explain this. 0.99

01:16:36.000 Not only that, it has drawings or statues that are carved into it, like these 3D images of animals that don't even exist in that area, that part of the world.

01:16:46.000 So it's real possible that shit like the ice being over half of this country, that that's moved around for... 0.89

01:16:55.000 Tens of thousands of years and there's probably been these pretty kind of nifty sophisticated civilizations but maybe they get to a point not even as far as we've gotten right now but maybe get to some previous point and just implode like those crazy assholes in Pakistan or implode like Nazi Germany or implode like a million different examples from Genghis Khan to To the Catholic Church. 0.99

01:17:20.000 Look at all the crazy shit that's gone on in this country. 0.99

01:17:23.000 100%. 1.00

01:17:24.000 Yeah, it easily could be like that always. 0.98

01:17:27.000 And that we've gotten to these really amazing Atlantean-type civilizations and just fucking chaos. 0.98

01:17:33.000 Boom! 0.99

01:17:34.000 Somebody comes in strapped up with dynamite. 0.99

01:17:36.000 Who the fuck knows? 0.99

01:17:37.000 And just... 0.99

01:17:38.000 Ace is the whole thing.

01:17:39.000 There's one part of the world, somewhere in the Middle East, I forget where it is, where they found glass in the desert.

01:17:47.000 They found this area in a satellite image.

01:17:49.000 God, I wish I had more information about this from the tip of my tongue.

01:17:54.000 But it was either some sort of an asteroid impact. 0.94

01:17:58.000 Or, like hundreds of thousands of years ago, somebody had a fucking gigantic explosion there. 1.00

01:18:03.000 Like, if it was some sort of civilization and they flattened that motherfucker out. 0.99

01:18:08.000 That's not outside the realm of possibility. 0.99

01:18:10.000 That someone figured out something.

01:18:12.000 Some sort of massive way to fuck things up.

01:18:16.000 We're the only ones that have ever figured that out throughout history.

01:18:19.000 It's very possible that somebody else might have tumbled.

01:18:21.000 We might have done this whole dance to the top a couple of times before tumbling.

01:18:26.000 This is just the highest we've ever gotten and kept it together. 0.99

01:18:29.000 We're very good at destroying shit, that's for sure. 0.97

01:18:31.000 I've got this guy coming on June 7th, for those of you who have been asking me about this, John Anthony West. 0.99

01:18:37.000 And he's this Egyptologist who is famous for his work in uncovering the fact that there's not just one Egyptian civilization that they're dealing with.

01:18:48.000 You're dealing with older and older civilizations that go back to 30-plus thousand years.

01:18:53.000 There's actual hieroglyphs.

01:18:56.000 Egyptian civilization goes back that far.

01:18:58.000 Like they even named the pharaohs.

01:19:00.000 But for some reason, modern day Egyptologists have looked at all this stuff and said, oh, that's a myth. 0.98

01:19:05.000 Like everything was real up until about 5,000 years ago and all the rest of that stuff, they just made that shit up.

01:19:10.000 Because it doesn't coincide with our own ideas of how long civilization has been around for. 0.90

01:19:16.000 You know, it just seems to me that when you look at how sophisticated we are today and how close we are to fucking it up and how badly it is fucking up and all the places in the world that you described, it seems like the odds that we haven't done this already, like, it just seems really small.

01:19:29.000 And I think we've got a lot of amnesia when it comes to the past of humans. 0.89

01:19:34.000 And I think you also have to factor in physical things that we can't control, like the earth, volcanoes, earthquakes, asteroidal impacts, shit like that.

01:19:45.000 You know, when I'm driving here today, I was driving on the 118, and it's beautiful.

01:19:49.000 You're going through the hills, the mountains, and I'm looking up and I'm just saying, it is amazing that we are basically, the whole world is a convertible.

01:19:58.000 There's no top.

01:20:00.000 And we're just sort of accepted that.

01:20:03.000 We're just head to the universe. 0.99

01:20:06.000 Just nothing but space and fucking giant rocks can fall from the sky and crush your country. 0.98

01:20:12.000 And we've just sort of completely forgotten about that. 0.98

01:20:16.000 I mean, there's impact holes that you can visit.

01:20:19.000 I mean, if you look at the general life of the universe, you know, the universe being billions of years old, right?

01:20:23.000 Now look at all the holes on Earth.

01:20:25.000 And then you just think, how long have we been around?

01:20:27.000 4.6 billion years.

01:20:28.000 How many holes are there? 1.00

01:20:29.000 This is going to happen again, you motherfucker. 1.00

01:20:32.000 We're forgetting that this shit happens. 1.00

01:20:35.000 There's hundreds of thousands of them. 1.00

01:20:37.000 They're as big as states, and they're flying through the air.

01:20:40.000 And they're going to land. 0.99

01:20:42.000 And they're going to fuck up everything. 0.99

01:20:44.000 You're really depressing me. 0.99

01:20:45.000 No, it's not bad, man. 0.97

01:20:47.000 I think if we're going to go, that's a fucking amazing way to go. 0.75

01:20:53.000 That's going to be quick. 0.97

01:20:54.000 It's going to be quick, and it's going to be crazy, and you don't have to worry about anybody suffering.

01:20:57.000 It's like, we're not afraid to sleep, but everybody's afraid to die, and both of them are inevitable.

01:21:02.000 It's going to happen.

01:21:03.000 You're going to die.

01:21:04.000 It's not like we're going to live forever if the asteroid doesn't come. 0.91

01:21:07.000 We're going to die, for sure.

01:21:08.000 That might be a crazy way to do it.

01:21:10.000 I'm not saying it's good, but...

01:21:13.000 It might not be bad.

01:21:14.000 It might be the way it has to happen for the next ultra-intelligent thing to come along that wouldn't have existed before the dinosaurs, wouldn't have existed before us.

01:21:23.000 I'd rather go out by an asteroid than a series of dirty bombs by some sort of cult or religious terrorism.

01:21:33.000 Did you see the latest footage from Syria, all the murdered children? 0.99

01:21:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:21:37.000 What the fuck is going on over there? 0.99

01:21:40.000 Well, it's the same thing that happened in Libya. 0.99

01:21:43.000 It's the same thing that might happen in Egypt.

01:21:47.000 When people fight, what you said about Vietnam, don't they remember Vietnam?

01:21:55.000 When you go to these places and you see what injuries look like, which are colostomy bags and legs that are gone and arms that are gone, you say, well, why would you ever do this again?

01:22:07.000 And then a generation forgets and then they go do something else.

01:22:10.000 They just go do it again.

01:22:13.000 How do we stop the cycle?

01:22:15.000 Is it possible without mushrooms?

01:22:16.000 I don't think so.

01:22:17.000 Are mushrooms the only way?

01:22:19.000 That's what I'm thinking.

01:22:20.000 I think the asteroids have to do it.

01:22:22.000 Asteroids?

01:22:22.000 I'd rather have the asteroids do it.

01:22:24.000 You know the concept of asteroids coming from mushrooms?

01:22:26.000 No.

01:22:27.000 Excuse me, mushrooms coming from asteroids?

01:22:29.000 Asteroids coming from mushrooms.

01:22:30.000 Maybe the world comes from mushrooms.

01:22:32.000 This is getting to be really trippy.

01:22:33.000 Well, this is from McKenna.

01:22:36.000 McKenna's theory, well, panspermia is a real theory of life.

01:22:39.000 You know, the theory that amino acids and certain nutrients and things, and water, in fact, comes from comets and asteroids.

01:22:46.000 And that life is transferred from planet to planet by astroidal impact.

01:22:49.000 This is a legit scientific theory.

01:22:51.000 Well, McKenna's theory about psilocybin was that psilocybin is completely alien to any other form of life that we have here on Earth.

01:22:58.000 There's nothing like it biologically or biochemically.

01:23:02.000 I think it's...

01:23:03.000 I'm not saying exactly right, but I believe it's like 4-Fox-4-Loloxy-NN-dimethyltryptamine.

01:23:10.000 It mimics the human neurotransmitter, dimethyltryptamine, which is a potent psychedelic drug.

01:23:16.000 It mimics that, but it also has like the phosphorus in the four position, which apparently no other compound on Earth does.

01:23:23.000 And the idea is that spores can exist in a vacuum and that spores could easily have traveled through the vacuum and the radiation of space.

01:23:31.000 And landed from another planet here.

01:23:34.000 Created this life form that wants you to eat it.

01:23:36.000 So it pops up and looks like a dinner plate.

01:23:38.000 And it pops up all over the place.

01:23:41.000 Everywhere you go.

01:23:41.000 It's not hiding at all.

01:23:42.000 And karmically, it's literally at the bottom of the food chain. 1.00

01:23:46.000 It lives on shit. 1.00

01:23:47.000 It's just a humble little thing that wants you to come along and eat it. 1.00

01:23:50.000 And when you eat it, you're granted spectacular visions. 1.00

01:23:54.000 Spectacular visions and feelings of love and God and unity and the thoughts of the universe being Entirely connected in one big mathematical equation computations and cells and organisms and fucking all the way down to atoms and subatomic particles and then branching out again and all this shit comes from something that grows out of shit. 0.99

01:24:12.000 All this shit comes from something that comes from space and the idea is that our Our concept of life and our concept of intelligence is very narrow and we egocentrically have assumed that all intelligence must be contained inside a brain. 0.97

01:24:26.000 Some sort of an intelligent, upright body that we can respect that's gonna come here from another planet and show us how to use a laser gun. 0.98

01:24:33.000 You know, but in fact, intelligence can exist in plant form, and that intelligence in spectacular visions and knowledge all comes out of a dimension that you cannot access without these molecules that exist in these plants.

01:24:49.000 And it opens literally chemical doorways in the mind.

01:24:52.000 It's a pretty fascinating idea, the fact that, you know, that is alien invasion, that mushrooms are an alien invasion.

01:25:00.000 I got to read this.

01:25:01.000 Who's McKenna?

01:25:02.000 Terence McKenna?

01:25:03.000 Yeah.

01:25:03.000 He's a crazy psychedelic chemist slash botanist slash I think his degrees were all in ethnobotany.

01:25:12.000 And I think his main study of work was the concept of the stoned ape theory.

01:25:20.000 That and his idea of time wave zero, which the idea was that time was like a mathematical progression of waves, and that novelty and terrible times would almost be predictable.

01:25:32.000 It was some sort of a mathematical equation of getting to infinite novelty, which was like in this year, supposedly.

01:25:39.000 Really? 0.97

01:25:39.000 Which is probably horseshit. 0.97

01:25:41.000 But his other fascinating theory was the mushroom theory, the stoned ape theory, and that was the theory that that's how human beings actually evolved from lower primates, was the consumption of psychedelic mushrooms.

01:25:51.000 And his theory, actually, I don't know if it's been supported by a lot of different scientists.

01:25:57.000 I know there's some debate on whether or not his timelines are right, but it's based on the idea that a bunch of monkeys ate some mushrooms and then helped them evolve.

01:26:07.000 It's interesting how many theories there are about how we got from sort of that to this.

01:26:13.000 Yeah.

01:26:13.000 Well, it's crazy.

01:26:14.000 We go to visit them in the zoo.

01:26:15.000 I took my kids to the zoo the other day, and I'm staring at my cousins in a cage.

01:26:20.000 Well, here in the home of Scientology, you know, they believe that the aliens came and the Phaetans went into the monkeys and that's what we are.

01:26:28.000 We're just vessels for alien souls.

01:26:30.000 Well, that's the sexiest idea.

01:26:32.000 The sexiest idea is the Anunnaki stuff, you know, the stuff that we were created by aliens and we're a genetic engineering program. 1.00

01:26:40.000 You know, you look at stuff from the Sumerian text from 6,000 years ago that depicts the Anunnaki coming here.

01:26:45.000 How do you not know that that's not science fiction?

01:26:47.000 Maybe that's their version of outer space or the outer limits or something like that.

01:26:55.000 It's insane how many people are like, this was how it happened.

01:26:59.000 It's aliens, it's mushrooms, it's this, it's that.

01:27:03.000 Well, the weird thing is the doubling of the human brain size. 0.99

01:27:06.000 I don't know what the fuck happened, man. 0.92

01:27:08.000 But I think it's probably a lack of information more than it is. 0.98

01:27:11.000 I think it can't just be mushrooms that we did.

01:27:14.000 If we did, that would be amazing.

01:27:16.000 If it was like, all you have to do is just regularly eat mushrooms, your brain would just grow.

01:27:21.000 If we just got on mushrooms, within 100 years, we'd look like those gray aliens, just giant heads. 0.90

01:27:26.000 We wouldn't need any muscles because we would use our minds to control matter. 0.96

01:27:30.000 We'd just be moving shit around constantly with our minds. 0.92

01:27:33.000 I feel a mushroom chirp coming on today, I think. 0.99

01:27:36.000 You think so?

01:27:36.000 I think I'm ready to do it today.

01:27:37.000 Well, you got one over here, man.

01:27:40.000 You want a cigarette?

01:27:44.000 That's going to fix me.

01:27:45.000 Yeah, today I was thinking about you.

01:27:47.000 I hate cigarettes and I'm handing them to you.

01:27:49.000 I'm like, I just want you to like me.

01:27:51.000 I just want you to be happy, Shane.

01:27:54.000 I love you too.

01:27:56.000 You're blowing my mind today.

01:27:59.000 You're blowing my mind always.

01:28:00.000 A lot of people have been passing around this speech that you gave.

01:28:04.000 I forget, it was some conference lately where you were talking about the future of television.

01:28:08.000 Can you explain it?

01:28:09.000 Because I haven't actually watched it yet, but I'm interested in what you have.

01:28:13.000 Yeah.

01:28:14.000 It was a speech for Internet Week about, you know, everyone's online versus cable.

01:28:24.000 And, you know, what I was saying was, so I didn't know what to do.

01:28:29.000 I didn't have anything planned that was very smart.

01:28:33.000 I was flying back actually from Afghanistan.

01:28:35.000 No, I was flying back from Afghanistan and I ducked into Pakistan to see the Karachi shoots.

01:28:39.000 I was flying back from Pakistan.

01:28:41.000 And I was thinking about all the kids that I had seen who were going insane and the guys who would kill for 10 bucks. 1.00

01:28:49.000 This is just crazy fucking dudes. 0.99

01:28:52.000 And I was like, look, the youth everywhere in Asia and Africa and Europe here, everyone's fucking revolting. 1.00

01:29:00.000 But what are we making? 0.90

01:29:02.000 I went to do the Upfronts, which is where all the TV shows get sold and online shows get sold.

01:29:08.000 And you have The Voice, which is the biggest show, which is just American Idol.

01:29:12.000 TV is derivative of TV. TV is just making shittier and shittier shows based on itself.

01:29:17.000 And then on the internet, which could be this, it could be revolutionary, because it's better. 0.99

01:29:23.000 Because you could be watching something, then text somebody, then get information, then Google this, and fucking what's going on here and here. 0.95

01:29:28.000 And instead of trying to be and say what the fuck is going on, and by the way, young people are revolting all around the world, and this is how they get their news now. 0.99

01:29:38.000 They get it through blogs and online shit here and there. 0.99

01:29:40.000 They don't even watch TV anymore. 0.98

01:29:41.000 But instead of doing something innovative and challenging and revolutionary, we just do shittier versions of TV shows with half the budget. 0.93

01:29:49.000 And so it's these shitty sort of Google shows. 0.94

01:29:52.000 You know what really pisses me off? 0.83

01:29:53.000 It's like America's Funniest Home Videos with a sort of annoying host.

01:29:59.000 And you're like, why don't we use the internet? 0.97

01:30:03.000 Why don't we use the social networks and video and all the stuff we can do now to actually do something that's good and revolutionary and start changing shit? 0.99

01:30:12.000 Because when he asks and says, well, how do we fucking stop all this shit? 0.99

01:30:15.000 Well, the first way to stop it is to find out about it. 1.00

01:30:19.000 So we have to know about it, and then we know about it, and then we can do shit. 0.92

01:30:22.000 Like we can not buy certain things, you know, dollar advocacy, you know, consumer advocacy is the most powerful, you know, tools we have, et cetera, et cetera. 0.99

01:30:31.000 But first of all is knowing about it, and so I just sort of got really pissed off that the internet has become so derivative and so shitty and just trying to mimic TV and TV as shit. 0.98

01:30:40.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:30:41.000 So let's try to fucking make something that actually people understand whether people like Whether it helps people or they understand of shit. 0.98

01:30:49.000 Like, for example, like Kony 2012, you're like, well, it shows that it's viral. 0.99

01:30:53.000 It shows that people actually want to know this shit. 0.99

01:30:56.000 But, like, it was okay. 1.00

01:30:58.000 It was just sort of half-assed.

01:30:59.000 What did you think about that whole situation?

01:31:01.000 I mean, that is another example of one of the reasons why I believe that life is a work of fiction. 0.98

01:31:06.000 A fucking guy decides that he's gonna make this viral video against James Coney. 0.99

01:31:12.000 Whacking it, whacking it, whacking it, oh. 1.00

01:31:14.000 Is that his name?

01:31:14.000 Charles Coney?

01:31:15.000 James Coney.

01:31:16.000 James Coney.

01:31:17.000 He's gonna make this viral video, expose the world to this horrible person, but they're getting a disproportionate amount of the money goes to them, and then they get accused of being...

01:31:29.000 Unscrupulous, whatever the words you would use.

01:31:31.000 They didn't do anything illegal.

01:31:32.000 They were a little funky with the money. 0.98

01:31:34.000 Then the guy shows up naked in the streets, beating off, acting gay. 0.96

01:31:38.000 Did you see the video? 0.97

01:31:39.000 Yeah.

01:31:41.000 That's like craziness.

01:31:42.000 Yeah.

01:31:43.000 Well, you know, they didn't, I'm sure they didn't think, you know, they went, there's these, you know, kids that go over and they shot it in Fairfax to them.

01:31:49.000 You know, I've been there.

01:31:50.000 It's a bad part of the world.

01:31:52.000 And, you know, it's interesting on a few points. 0.98

01:31:56.000 One, because it shows that the fucking, like, everyone says kids don't care, people don't care about anything outside of America. 0.98

01:32:03.000 Like, it's a big, in media, they always say don't do anything, you know, outside of America. 0.99

01:32:07.000 People just don't give a shit about it. 0.99

01:32:08.000 Well, I think it shows that people do give a shit about it. 0.99

01:32:11.000 And these guys weren't expecting it to become a huge thing. 0.99

01:32:14.000 And, you know, so obviously when weird shit happens to you, you have different ways of coping. 0.98

01:32:20.000 This guy coped by going fucking... 0.99

01:32:22.000 Completely ameshit. 1.00

01:32:23.000 Ameshit crazy.

01:32:25.000 Which actually seems appealing sometimes. 0.99

01:32:27.000 Like when life's really hard, you're just like, I'm going to take off my fucking clothes and pop off again. 0.99

01:32:32.000 Oh, there's fucking serial killers and assassins everywhere? 0.99

01:32:35.000 I'm gonna get your fleshlight. 1.00

01:32:38.000 That guy was on the street in his underwear. 0.92

01:32:41.000 He got naked. 0.98

01:32:42.000 He was flailing his arms around and acting like super gay. 0.99

01:32:48.000 I wonder what he was on. 0.97

01:32:50.000 What makes you act gay? 0.98

01:32:53.000 Besides being gay. 1.00

01:32:55.000 Mostly cocks, balls. 1.00

01:32:57.000 Booty holes. 1.00

01:32:59.000 Red band fleshlights.

01:33:02.000 What is...

01:33:03.000 Yeah, Cody, I mean, the thing is it became huge and I think it shows that there's a massive audience.

01:33:07.000 That it's possible.

01:33:08.000 Yeah, and the whole thing is... 0.99

01:33:10.000 Let's make shit that actually isn't shit. 0.98

01:33:12.000 Let's make stuff that, you know, is telling the stories. 0.99

01:33:15.000 And that's what we're doing. 0.93

01:33:16.000 And I said, you know, look, if it's Vice who's doing it, then we're really in fucking trouble. 0.92

01:33:21.000 Because I didn't come up, you know, with any sort of Save the World complex. 0.87

01:33:25.000 Yeah, but you're not compromised yet.

01:33:27.000 And as a human being, when you've gotten to the point where you see this information, you're not compromised.

01:33:30.000 So you're releasing it, and you're focusing on it.

01:33:33.000 And you have an honest eye for what... 1.00

01:33:35.000 Well, it's also when we went around the world and expanded the company, you just see all this shit happening, and you're like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:33:39.000 Why isn't anybody fucking saying this shit? 0.99

01:33:42.000 And then, but I always say that, look, if we're a news source, then the world's in trouble because we were a style mag. 1.00

01:33:48.000 You know, all we gave a shit about was fucking, you know, famously say, you know, cocaine supermodels, rare denim and sneakers. 1.00

01:33:55.000 And then when you go around the rest of the world, you're like, holy fucking shit. 1.00

01:33:58.000 And you sort of, you know, come out of the pond and go, okay, well, we got to do something about this. 0.99

01:34:02.000 Well, I think they're here to get you.

01:34:05.000 Yeah.

01:34:05.000 They've had enough.

01:34:06.000 I think it's probably the only way journalists ever become journalists in the first place.

01:34:14.000 They have something that they feel needs to be said, right?

01:34:17.000 They have this desire to send a message, and that comes from seeing things that are wrong.

01:34:23.000 I mean, if you had someone overseeing you, someone from NBC or CBS, do you think you could have gotten any of this stuff done?

01:34:45.000 Well...

01:34:46.000 If you said to them, hey, I'm going to go to Pakistan and I'm going to meet with the Taliban... 1.00

01:34:49.000 I don't think...

01:34:50.000 Yeah, we wouldn't be allowed to do a lot of the stuff that we do because we just go and, you know...

01:34:56.000 You don't get permits.

01:34:57.000 You guys just go.

01:34:58.000 Don't...

01:34:58.000 Generally don't get permits.

01:34:59.000 Do you ask the people if you could put them in a movie or on television or on the internet?

01:35:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:03.000 The people themselves.

01:35:04.000 Do they sign anything?

01:35:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:05.000 They sign things?

01:35:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:35:07.000 But people generally want to tell their stories, but I mean ask government permission or police permission or all the things you're supposed to...

01:35:12.000 Or also, you're generally supposed to go with security teams.

01:35:18.000 And we're like, well, I did a security team once because we were doing a show with MTV and they made us get one in Beirut.

01:35:26.000 And I've been to Beirut like 20 times.

01:35:28.000 Beirut's not that bad.

01:35:29.000 There's sometimes parts of it that are bad, but...

01:35:33.000 And we were walking target because you just have all these dudes talking. 0.99

01:35:37.000 And so I said, I'm never going to have security ever again because that's the sure way that you're not going to get a story or the real people aren't going to talk to you or everyone's going to think, who are the fuck these guys? 0.98

01:35:46.000 So we go and we call it immersionism. 0.98

01:35:49.000 You just go immerse yourself.

01:35:51.000 You know, in the place and then just, you know, press record.

01:35:55.000 Don't go in with any sort of preconceived ideas or notions or political paradigms or I'm going to prove this because generally you're not going to prove that.

01:36:02.000 Like, for example, if you went to Somalia and said, I'm going to prove that these guys are barbarian pirates and, you know, then you're going to shut yourself off to exactly what you said, which is, well, actually, we illegally irradiated their whole coast and illegally overfished it so that they're starving and they're like, well, we're going to tax the The people who did this to us.

01:36:22.000 Yeah, they're called the People's Coast Guard.

01:36:24.000 The Voluntary Coast Guard of Somalia?

01:36:26.000 That's what they call themselves. 1.00

01:36:27.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

01:36:30.000 Dude, if anybody knows how to fix this, it's you. 1.00

01:36:32.000 You see it all.

01:36:33.000 I think it's the internet.

01:36:35.000 I think it's the only hope we have.

01:36:36.000 The internet and technology.

01:36:37.000 The technology like what you were saying about pulling carbon out of the atmosphere.

01:36:41.000 Cleaning the air and reusing the fuel.

01:36:44.000 That makes sense.

01:36:45.000 I mean, if technology can put it out there, it seems like we should be able to harvest it. 0.93

01:36:49.000 Maybe not now, maybe 100 years from now, whenever the fuck it actually becomes viable. 0.84

01:36:53.000 Well, somebody asked me at Internet Week. 0.97

01:36:55.000 The guy said, well, what if I'm not angry?

01:36:57.000 You know, I'm, whatever, 22 and, you know, I'm not angry and I want to go get an MBA and make money.

01:37:03.000 And I said, great.

01:37:05.000 You know, I think that there was the sort of our grandparents' generation that, you know, They didn't know better, so they were like, oh, space-age food, TV dinners, let's produce all the food, let's make it all with computers or whatever, assembly lines.

01:37:22.000 And so it started to be bad for us.

01:37:24.000 It started to do all these things.

01:37:26.000 Agent Orange, let's do all these terrible things.

01:37:29.000 But they didn't know any better.

01:37:31.000 Technology was sort of their...

01:37:33.000 You know, savior.

01:37:34.000 But the baby boomers, you know, they were the first generation that knew better but still became the largest energy consumers, the largest garbage producers, all this thing. 1.00

01:37:43.000 Gen X has sort of slipped by, but guess what?

01:37:45.000 The bill's here and it's going to be Gen Y. Like, they have to pay. 1.00

01:37:48.000 There is no get-out-of-jail-free card now.

01:37:52.000 So, as you're seeing economically, And socially and culturally and politically, we're shifting.

01:38:01.000 And if you just want to sort of say, I'm going to stick my head in the sand, which we've done for a little while, I don't think you're going to be able to anymore.

01:38:09.000 I agree with you, and I agree that things are shifting, and I also think that that's why these attacks on the Constitution have been permitted and are being pushed through.

01:38:19.000 I think they've seen the prognosis and they've seen the future, and the future is the trends that we see on the Internet.

01:38:25.000 It's a trend towards a more libertarian line of thinking.

01:38:27.000 It's a trend towards a smaller government, more accountability.

01:38:31.000 Less bureaucracy. 0.96

01:38:32.000 The idea of creating jobs doesn't mean you create some new fucking laws that you have to saddle everybody with and a bunch of people to enforce those laws. 0.84

01:38:39.000 And that's what a lot of these politicians like to think of as creating jobs. 1.00

01:38:43.000 You're creating problems. 0.71

01:38:45.000 And you cunts that keep attacking the Constitution and pulling amendments apart and really defacing the whole idea of what this country was founded on. 0.90

01:38:54.000 They're doing it just because they sense the future. 0.86

01:38:56.000 The future is not going to work the way it works now.

01:39:00.000 It's just not.

01:39:00.000 We're not going to deal with this whole idea of representative government.

01:39:03.000 We're not going to deal with special interest groups. 1.00

01:39:05.000 That shit is nonsense. 1.00

01:39:06.000 That's got to go away. 1.00

01:39:08.000 I think if you look at what's happening, too, if you look at Syria, for example, if you look at what happened in Egypt or Libya, you know, I spent a lot of time in those countries.

01:39:21.000 Just before the revolution, I got arrested in Libya.

01:39:26.000 And then when I went back and I said it, I would have never called this.

01:39:30.000 Not a lot of people did.

01:39:32.000 I would have said the opposite because it was so restrictive and it was so hardcore and everyone was so pro-regime.

01:39:40.000 But because of the internet, because of Twitter, because of Facebook, because of all these social tools, You had all these young people able to communicate and say, actually, I'm pissed off too. 0.98

01:39:49.000 Oh, we're all fucking pissed off. 0.90

01:39:51.000 Hey, let's change. 0.94

01:39:52.000 And I think that, you know, that change isn't going to be pretty in a lot of cases and it's going to be problematic.

01:39:56.000 But you do have young people who are taking up arms.

01:39:59.000 Now, you also have young people who are just smashing the shit out of cities like they did in Paris and especially in London last summer.

01:40:05.000 But, you know, what happens when... 0.62

01:40:08.000 When Occupy Wall Street becomes Egypt to try to smash the status quo, what happens when Occupy Wall Street becomes Syria or becomes Libya? 0.89

01:40:20.000 It's not in the foreseeable future maybe, but I didn't call Libya or Egypt or Syria either.

01:40:27.000 There's a lot of unrest out there and there's a lot of people communicating that unrest.

01:40:33.000 And in fact, if you see that in America, it's growing. 0.99

01:40:36.000 If I was campaigning this summer, then I would be focusing on, oh, we have a huge fucking groundswell and a global groundswell of dissatisfaction with the only group that's actually going to get off their ass and do something about it. 0.97

01:40:53.000 You must have at least some emotional attachment to Julian Assange and the WikiLeaks case. 0.98

01:41:00.000 When you see this case and this Bradley Manning kid, I believe he's still in solitary confinement.

01:41:07.000 I don't even know.

01:41:09.000 Does he have a court date?

01:41:10.000 I don't know.

01:41:12.000 They just locked this kid in a box and cut him off from humans. 0.97

01:41:16.000 I'm sure he's completely crazy at this point. 0.63

01:41:18.000 I don't think you cannot go crazy in solitary confinement for five years, I think.

01:41:22.000 Well, it just shows that conspiracy theorists aren't crazy.

01:41:25.000 They're not crazy at all.

01:41:26.000 Because the majority of these are proof that there are, you know...

01:41:35.000 Very sorted and unseemly things going on every day.

01:41:39.000 100%.

01:41:39.000 And the information that that guy released alone makes him a hero.

01:41:43.000 That guy released things that are anti-American.

01:41:45.000 He released things that are war crimes.

01:41:47.000 He saw war crimes.

01:41:48.000 We're not war criminals.

01:41:49.000 We're Americans.

01:41:50.000 We're American.

01:41:51.000 Yeah.

01:41:52.000 This is how most proud Americans feel.

01:41:54.000 We're American and we're not cunts.

01:41:56.000 That's it. 0.99

01:41:56.000 We don't take any bullshit, but we're not cunts. 0.99

01:41:58.000 That's when you get a guy who feels that and he's an American and he's a soldier and he wants to, you know, he's a voluntary soldier signed up to represent this government and he sees his government doing horrible shit that's not being reported, it's being covered up. 0.99

01:42:12.000 Covering shit up when you do crimes is not how crimes get resolved. 0.87

01:42:15.000 Well, since when did telling the truth and keeping governments and big business in check become anti-American? 1.00

01:42:22.000 That guy's a goddamn patriot. 0.99

01:42:23.000 He's a patriot and he's locked in a box. 0.99

01:42:25.000 And then Julia Assange gets in trouble.

01:42:27.000 This WikiLeaks thing is so fascinating, man.

01:42:29.000 People were accusing me of getting my information wrong.

01:42:31.000 But no, he's not even accused of rape.

01:42:35.000 He's accused of having sex without a condom.

01:42:37.000 I wasn't lying. 0.99

01:42:39.000 He apparently, you know, they were sleeping together and he stuck it in this chick. 1.00

01:42:42.000 I don't know the fucking full story. 0.98

01:42:44.000 But the bottom line is, that's why they're trying to export this guy. 0.99

01:42:48.000 Like, if that's not the craziest thing, we're going to regulate voluntary sexual...

01:42:52.000 I mean, two people are naked in bed, we're going to decide what did and didn't happen between a guy and a girl? 0.97

01:42:57.000 And you're going to spend that much fucking money to monitor this guy and make sure he checks in constantly? 0.96

01:43:02.000 He's put videos online of his daily routine. 0.99

01:43:06.000 He has to drive to the police station and check in before he can do things.

01:43:08.000 He's under house arrest.

01:43:10.000 The whole thing is madness.

01:43:12.000 Well, the thing is, is the fact that they keep going on on the story and saying, yeah, we don't want him for actually blowing the whistle on every crime that's been going on in the government.

01:43:24.000 We want him for this sort of weird, you know, quasi thing that happened in Sweden that wouldn't be considered anything anywhere else.

01:43:31.000 Well, yeah. 0.78

01:43:31.000 I think someone described it as surprise sex. 0.78

01:43:35.000 It's not even rape, technically. 0.92

01:43:37.000 It's like they had had consensual sex, but with a condom.

01:43:41.000 And then they were lying in bed. 0.99

01:43:44.000 I don't know what the fuck really happened, so I shouldn't even be saying this. 0.99

01:43:47.000 But the idea that they're wasting so much resource on a sexual issue that's not even a violent one, not even rape... 1.00

01:43:53.000 But it's kind of smart, actually, because, for example, it's the one thing that you can't say, well, they just drummed it up and it's bullshit, because, well, rape is very serious. 0.99

01:44:04.000 It's the worst. 0.99

01:44:05.000 So you're in a catch-22 of saying, well, they just drummed it up to get this guy for blowing the whistle, but at the same time they drummed up the one thing that you're sort of taboo to go against.

01:44:16.000 It's the number one thing, yeah.

01:44:18.000 But they couldn't even get a good version of it.

01:44:20.000 I mean, the story is so weak. 0.96

01:44:23.000 If it was, you know, he roofied her and he did this, he tied her up and took pictures, and we have the pictures, oh, well, the guy's obviously a cunt that released important information. 0.88

01:44:30.000 But I think the sad thing about it is that you look at, you know, Deep Throat, you know, who announced who he was and all that stuff, and he did it to save the government and all that stuff. 0.72

01:44:41.000 He's a hero, right?

01:44:43.000 Right.

01:44:44.000 Well, it depends on who won.

01:44:47.000 Bradley Manning could come out to be a hero.

01:44:49.000 Julian Assange could come out to be a hero if there was some crazy revolution in the future. 0.99

01:44:53.000 We realized this is the turning point of American society when they said, we're not going to take this bullshit anymore. 0.99

01:44:58.000 When they watched that collateral murder video and realized, what are we doing to our children when we're forcing them to even think like this? 0.99

01:45:04.000 This is acceptable.

01:45:06.000 You have this one shot at life, and this is how you're going to spend some of your time shooting missiles down at innocent people wandering through the street.

01:45:12.000 But my question is, when did it change from journalism and the Fourth Estate's job being to make sure that politicians weren't lying, to make sure that corporations weren't doing these bad things?

01:45:26.000 I think Watergate changed it, right?

01:45:29.000 Well, I think, actually, distribution, I think, changed it because four companies run all news media, and they're all major global corporations that all have huge advertising.

01:45:41.000 They're conflicted and they don't go after politicians.

01:45:44.000 I remember during the Iraq War, people knew that this was all a construct.

01:45:51.000 They knew that there weren't weapons of mass destruction.

01:45:54.000 Everyone used to joke.

01:45:56.000 I used to hang out with all the journalists and they'd say, of course.

01:45:59.000 Al-Qaeda is the opposite of the Ba'ath Party.

01:46:02.000 How far do you take that?

01:46:03.000 How far do you take the whole idea of conspiracy?

01:46:09.000 I don't know if it's...

01:46:10.000 There's certainly a conspiracy to go to Iraq, right?

01:46:13.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:46:14.000 But that's been admitted to now.

01:46:16.000 And I think that because of 9-11, the press got co-opted and it became un-American to say anything bad about the government or the military.

01:46:28.000 And I think that that is... 0.69

01:46:32.000 That was one of the sort of turning points, A, because that's bullshit, and B, because young people got completely disenfranchised by news media because we saw it all happen to say, wait a minute, You know, this doesn't sound right. 0.89

01:46:45.000 And then afterwards they're like, yeah, there was no weapons of mass destruction. 0.95

01:46:48.000 Yeah, there was no Al Qaeda here.

01:46:49.000 And you're like, well, but we knew that.

01:46:52.000 But we kept saying it.

01:46:54.000 The news media became part of a government propaganda program and everybody just went along with it. 0.91

01:47:00.000 And that's fucking scary because no matter who's in government, you know, if they Can just put together propaganda. 0.95

01:47:07.000 How is that different than Nazi Germany? 0.98

01:47:11.000 How is it that different than any of these totalitarian regimes where they say, yes, Kim Il-sung is God or whatever?

01:47:19.000 How is that any different?

01:47:20.000 Because you can use the Fourth Estate as your PR agency.

01:47:24.000 Well, the CIA had released some sort of statement right after the war with Iraq.

01:47:29.000 It started that they were going to start releasing fake stories to throw off the enemy.

01:47:33.000 And once you admit to doing something like that, that's incredibly slippery ground.

01:47:39.000 That's the only way to defeat the enemy is you have to put out fake stories and lie to everyone.

01:47:44.000 And we're supposed to give you that power.

01:47:46.000 What kind of checks and balances are in place before that stuff gets distributed? 0.98

01:47:50.000 What the fuck is going on here? 0.92

01:47:52.000 Well, it's also, you know, Memorial Day, and you said it exactly right, is that, you know, what are we doing? 0.99

01:47:59.000 Sending, you know, going in with, what's our mission to go into Afghanistan?

01:48:03.000 What's our mission?

01:48:03.000 Well, we have a mission with al-Qaeda, Taliban, Taliban, Taliban.

01:48:07.000 Okay, now we're letting Taliban in because, well, we've lost. 0.98

01:48:10.000 We're saying, okay, well, we have to have power sharing with them.

01:48:14.000 And so you say, well, and everybody knows it's going to go right back to civil war.

01:48:18.000 So you're like, well, why did we come here?

01:48:20.000 Why did we do all this? 1.00

01:48:21.000 Like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:48:22.000 So you don't think that it's some sort of a grand conspiracy to extract minerals and all that stuff? 1.00

01:48:28.000 You think it's much more of a clusterfuck shit decision by government and then being in place because of momentum and because of the fact there's contractors and they all want to keep getting paid? 0.98

01:48:37.000 Resource wealth, for sure. 0.99

01:48:39.000 And it was the story that we broke in Sudan that time.

01:48:44.000 Darfur is oil.

01:48:45.000 And resource wealth, we did in the Congo.

01:48:48.000 We've done it in a lot of stories all over the place.

01:48:49.000 I wouldn't say, I would say they got caught in the quagmire of Afghanistan, much like the Soviets did. 0.97

01:48:55.000 They went in there, they were trying to do something, and they just got sucked in, and then it got worse and worse and worse and worse and worse.

01:49:01.000 And look, it's so bad on every level.

01:49:04.000 I mean, America's in there trying to fight this war on drugs, war on drugs, war on drugs.

01:49:08.000 They've been in there 12 years.

01:49:09.000 There's never been more heroin for cheaper or higher quality ever.

01:49:13.000 In fact, it's so good that they put the golden triangle out of business.

01:49:16.000 It's all coming from Afghanistan now. 1.00

01:49:18.000 And so America's the biggest drug dealer in the world because we're just sitting there running this country that just ships out all the heroin in the world.

01:49:25.000 How much of a peace does the CIA have of that?

01:49:27.000 Who knows?

01:49:28.000 Well, I would say that, you know, look, it's been documented that they were part of the original outflux into America from Vietnam during the Vietnam War as a way to keep urban populations sort of at bay.

01:49:42.000 That's well documented.

01:49:44.000 That was like a real social experiment?

01:49:46.000 They would bring heroin into the ghetto?

01:49:48.000 Yeah.

01:49:49.000 Really?

01:49:50.000 That's well documented, yeah.

01:49:52.000 But is it well documented, the intentions?

01:49:55.000 Yeah, because there was civil unrest in the major urban center.

01:49:59.000 So they allowed heroin to go in because it took away all sort of, well, everything except for heroin addiction.

01:50:06.000 Yeah.

01:50:06.000 So, I mean, if it's been a part of their policy in the past, obviously they're going to be incredibly sensitive to it.

01:50:13.000 But I don't think that you can say that they're not involved, or at least the State Department's not involved, because the statistics speak for themselves.

01:50:26.000 By a factor of two, so 100% more heroin addiction, heroin addicts in America since the start of the Afghani war.

01:50:34.000 Heroin's never been cheaper, it's never been better quality, and we've been running it.

01:50:39.000 So it's just flooding out, it's destroyed.

01:50:42.000 Russia has now got 7% in Pakistan, which is a Muslim country, extremist Muslim country, has something like 12% in Karachi anyway, heroin addiction. 0.84

01:50:52.000 It's flooding out of Afghanistan. 0.73

01:50:55.000 We could have gone in and taken all the fields that we didn't.

01:50:59.000 Well, not only did we not take the fields, we guarded them.

01:51:02.000 Sure, yeah, yeah, definitely.

01:51:03.000 Most people want to come up with some sort of crazy explanation or excuse for why they did that.

01:51:09.000 Well, it's because they fear that it's the only way they're really making money.

01:51:13.000 They're making money two ways, which is the American government and heroin.

01:51:18.000 And so they're like, well, if we take away heroin production, then they're really going to hate us.

01:51:22.000 Does any of that stuff make its way into pharmaceutical grade opiates like oxycodone, things along those lines?

01:51:28.000 Who knows?

01:51:29.000 I don't know. 0.94

01:51:29.000 All I know is like every time we do a story on the heroin situation in Afghanistan, it's fucking shocking because you're just like, the Americans let them. 0.94

01:51:38.000 There's actually, you know, pictures of the American troops guarding Poppy. 0.99

01:51:41.000 Jesus fucking Christ. 0.99

01:51:43.000 It's nuts. 1.00

01:51:44.000 It's the war on drugs, sort of.

01:51:46.000 Except over there.

01:51:46.000 Over there, we're a war against the war on drugs.

01:51:50.000 Well, if you see the war on drugs in Afghanistan, and then you see the war on drugs in Mexico, you're like, well, it's completely corrupt from start to finish.

01:52:00.000 This war on drugs is... 0.99

01:52:01.000 Complete horseshit. 0.99

01:52:02.000 What's the craziest slippery war ever? 0.99

01:52:04.000 The war on drugs and then you have armed soldiers guarding poppy fields.

01:52:10.000 What side are you on in this war on drugs?

01:52:12.000 Because it seems like you're on the pro-drug side.

01:52:14.000 You're guarding the drugs.

01:52:16.000 How could you have a war on drugs when you're guarding the drugs?

01:52:19.000 And you're sending all the weapons to Mexico that they need and all the money.

01:52:24.000 And you don't even go to jail for it.

01:52:27.000 And 90% plus of the heroin comes out of Afghanistan.

01:52:32.000 And what did you say about how much has the percentage of it increased since we have occupied Afghanistan?

01:52:39.000 Just in America, it's doubled.

01:52:41.000 But that's just in America.

01:52:42.000 But in Russia, it's gone through the roof.

01:52:44.000 It's doubled in the UK. But Russia and Pakistan and the Middle East, countries like Iran, everywhere on the path has just doubled. 0.70

01:52:53.000 Heroin addiction has soared.

01:52:55.000 In fact, heroin addiction is so huge in Russia.

01:52:58.000 Did you see the thing we did on Crocodile?

01:53:00.000 Yes! 1.00

01:53:01.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

01:53:03.000 So they're so addicted to heroin that when they can't get it because it got expensive now because so many people are buying it that they make their own synthetic heroin. 1.00

01:53:14.000 And it's called Crocodile because it makes you look like a crocodile because it makes your skin like scales and then the scales fall off and you just have like bone there.

01:53:22.000 It's insane.

01:53:23.000 If you haven't seen it, if you haven't seen the images online of people that are addicted that have that, it's incredible.

01:53:29.000 It's so frightening.

01:53:31.000 It's frightening.

01:53:32.000 It's so frightening that people would do that to themselves.

01:53:34.000 I'm going to literally shoot drugs that make my skin rot and fall off the bone.

01:53:39.000 He's not exaggerating. 0.57

01:53:40.000 There's like people with big, their arms have like big gaping holes.

01:53:44.000 You see the bone.

01:53:45.000 You see the bone and they can walk around.

01:53:46.000 They're not even infected.

01:53:48.000 Well, some of it, yeah.

01:53:49.000 Some of them get infected?

01:53:50.000 It was weird.

01:53:51.000 It looked like it was burnt off, like it was fused.

01:53:54.000 Because it kills all the flesh and it falls off.

01:53:57.000 Jesus Christ.

01:53:58.000 Yeah.

01:53:59.000 That's insane.

01:54:00.000 What happens then?

01:54:01.000 They just die.

01:54:01.000 I mean, you can't just have your bones just exposed like that, right?

01:54:04.000 Does it ever fill up if you quit?

01:54:06.000 You know, I don't know the answer. 1.00

01:54:08.000 Does anybody ever get off that shit? 1.00

01:54:10.000 It's even more addictive than heroin. 1.00

01:54:15.000 You guys had that shit about the Colombian drug that you blow in people's faces? 1.00

01:54:21.000 Yeah, that is terrifying. 1.00

01:54:23.000 Well, the freaky thing about scopolamine is you don't believe it's true until you see it.

01:54:27.000 Because the stories are, it's the zombie drug, right?

01:54:31.000 We heard stories of people coming into their apartments on security cameras and clearing out their whole apartments.

01:54:38.000 And you see them on security cams doing it, you know, and they don't have any recollection.

01:54:43.000 They wake up in the morning, their bank accounts are drained, etc., etc.

01:54:47.000 And they couldn't figure it out until the FARC, the guys who were Colombians who were making cocaine, were using the same... 0.64

01:54:59.000 What was happening was generally it started out as hookers and hookers would put a condom inside their mouth like this so it wouldn't go down and then they put a little scopolamine in their lips and then when they go to kiss you and they would spit scopolamine and you'd inhale it. 1.00

01:55:17.000 That's fucked up. 1.00

01:55:18.000 Holy shit, that's scary. 1.00

01:55:19.000 And then you go into this trance-like state, and then it's auto-suggestion. 0.99

01:55:23.000 So you say, okay, we're going to go now to your apartment.

01:55:26.000 Yes, and we're going to go to the apartment. 1.00

01:55:27.000 And then we're going to clean out all your shit, and we're going to go to your bank. 1.00

01:55:30.000 And they have security footage of them going to the bank and signing shit. 0.99

01:55:34.000 And it's not like one or two people. 1.00

01:55:36.000 This happens all the fucking time. 0.99

01:55:38.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:55:38.000 And so that's a fucking terrifying drug. 1.00

01:55:43.000 Terrifying. 1.00

01:55:44.000 Because you're just gone.

01:55:45.000 You're in a sort of zombie-like narcotic state and you just do what people tell you to do. 0.98

01:55:49.000 That's the real ultimate date rape drug. 1.00

01:55:53.000 That's the real shit. 1.00

01:55:54.000 We've got to make sure people don't get a hold of that stuff. 1.00

01:55:56.000 That's a life rape drug. 1.00

01:55:57.000 Can you imagine dating one of those girls? 1.00

01:55:58.000 Oh my god. 0.99

01:55:59.000 Someone spits something in your mouth and makes you be their zombie. 0.99

01:56:02.000 Those girls have to be undateable. 1.00

01:56:04.000 There's no way you can date that guy.

01:56:05.000 What, a girl that would do that to somebody? 1.00

01:56:07.000 Yeah, like if you knew that's what she did as a job and you ever got in a fight with her, she probably had all these tricks. 1.00

01:56:12.000 First of all, he said hooker. 0.99

01:56:12.000 He said she was a hooker. 0.99

01:56:13.000 I know. 1.00

01:56:14.000 Imagine dating one of those hooker girls. 1.00

01:56:16.000 Yeah, you shouldn't date hookers. 1.00

01:56:17.000 That's just me. 0.99

01:56:19.000 I'm silly, though. 0.99

01:56:20.000 Especially ones that take over your brains. 1.00

01:56:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:56:23.000 Well, I'm so terrified of shit like that. 0.99

01:56:25.000 Why would that exist? 1.00

01:56:26.000 Why would there be something that allows you to be turned into a fucking zombie to someone else's suggestions like that? 0.98

01:56:33.000 You know, when you see the different things in nature, like different parasites that control different organisms and make them do fucked up things, it really is kind of bizarre when you stop and think about it. 0.98

01:56:42.000 Like, what kind of a system, what kind of a world do we live in where there's that laying around?

01:56:48.000 A plant that grows.

01:56:50.000 And if it gets into your body, people just order you around.

01:56:53.000 That's crazy! 1.00

01:56:54.000 You become a fucking robot. 1.00

01:56:55.000 You become an automated little slave for them. 1.00

01:56:58.000 Drugs are crazy.

01:57:00.000 We just did a story on, you probably know a lot more about it than I do, but Ibogaine.

01:57:05.000 And we were doing a story on the underground heroin clinics.

01:57:12.000 It's actually started by a lot of ex-junkies who were like 40-year junkies, like couldn't get off, tried hundreds of times to get clean.

01:57:19.000 They would do Ibogaine, and then it interrupts your addiction for like two weeks or whatever.

01:57:25.000 So it's long enough that you don't have to go cold turkey.

01:57:28.000 And so we went to these clinics where they administer Ibogaine and stuff. 0.93

01:57:32.000 It was fucking fascinating. 0.97

01:57:34.000 It was crazy. 0.97

01:57:35.000 Did you do it?

01:57:35.000 No.

01:57:36.000 Because I saw them do it.

01:57:38.000 And they were taking massive doses, though.

01:57:41.000 They were taking, like, it's 48 hours, lots of vomiting, like, crazy. 1.00

01:57:47.000 Crazy fucking shit. 1.00

01:57:48.000 I have a couple friends that have done it. 1.00

01:57:49.000 One that did it recently and one that it changed his whole life.

01:57:51.000 I have a buddy of mine, he got his back uninjured, got hooked on pain pills, started taking, you know, you name him, he was taking them.

01:58:01.000 Couldn't get off him.

01:58:02.000 It was ruining his life.

01:58:03.000 Goes down, gets an Ibogaine, boom, clean, 100%.

01:58:06.000 Now brings people down there, started his own center down there, brings people down there to introduce him to Mexico. 1.00

01:58:13.000 But I'm like, fucking Mexico, man. 1.00

01:58:14.000 Mexico's scary as fuck. 1.00

01:58:16.000 Well, it's because it's still legal there. 1.00

01:58:18.000 It's illegal here.

01:58:19.000 It's a Schedule I drug just like heroin.

01:58:20.000 Yeah.

01:58:21.000 Well, everything in Mexico is decriminalized now, right?

01:58:24.000 Most people don't know.

01:58:25.000 Didn't they decriminalize acid, mushrooms, pot, coke, everything?

01:58:29.000 And this was to fight the cartels.

01:58:31.000 Exactly.

01:58:33.000 But yeah, Ibogaine, that's the strongest drug I've ever seen. 1.00

01:58:38.000 Because people under it were like, holy fuck. 0.99

01:58:40.000 Yeah, my business partner did it, changed his life. 1.00

01:58:43.000 Well, he's done it a couple times.

01:58:45.000 He's done a couple different things rather than changed his life.

01:58:47.000 He's done ayahuasca, done Ibogaine.

01:58:50.000 He's really into going to these weird places and going on big trips.

01:58:53.000 But the Ibogaine is interesting because we follow, you know, some junkies straight through the whole process.

01:58:59.000 And it was pretty remarkable because it worked.

01:59:02.000 Yeah.

01:59:03.000 It was nuts.

01:59:04.000 Yeah.

01:59:06.000 Aubrey, my friend who's done it, he, you know, he described the process and I didn't want to do it even slightly.

01:59:11.000 It sounded like hell.

01:59:13.000 Yeah.

01:59:14.000 Like, you know, you can talk me into doing some DMT maybe.

01:59:18.000 It's 15 minutes.

01:59:19.000 I'll send you the piece.

01:59:20.000 There's so much vomiting. 0.99

01:59:22.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.98

01:59:23.000 Days of vomiting. 0.99

01:59:24.000 That could not be good for you.

01:59:25.000 Well, you gotta think though, man, if someone's hooked on heroin, anything, they'll take anything to get them out of that.

01:59:31.000 I've watched people slip into addiction several times in my life, and it's just like being turned by a vampire.

01:59:37.000 It really is.

01:59:38.000 It's a feeling that you've lost someone.

01:59:40.000 They're slipping away.

01:59:42.000 They're slipping away from themselves, from their family, from everybody.

01:59:45.000 They're slipping away because of a compound, some sort of a chemical.

01:59:49.000 It's really, what a bizarre thing that we have, this addiction quality.

01:59:54.000 Well, we say that in the piece.

01:59:55.000 We say that this mother gives her son to these sort of New York fruitcakes.

02:00:01.000 Nice guys, but like weird guys who do sort of West African voodoo. 0.84

02:00:08.000 When they administered the Ibogaine and we were taking our son to Mexico to one of these clinics because we couldn't legally do it in America.

02:00:14.000 So we brought the whole crew down to Mexico to shoot it. 0.99

02:00:16.000 And it was like, how bad is heroin that a mother is going to give her son to these crazy West African voodoo ex-junkie dudes to take off to Mexico and administer the strongest drug in the world to so he's going to puke and fucking go nuts for two days. 1.00

02:00:33.000 That's how bad heroin is. 0.99

02:00:35.000 And that's what the government sells! 0.59

02:00:37.000 Da-da-da-da-da! 1.00

02:00:39.000 Damn! 1.00

02:00:40.000 America! 1.00

02:00:41.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

02:00:43.000 Listen, man, let's wrap this up and let you get some sleep. 1.00

02:00:46.000 You're the fucking man, dude. 0.99

02:00:48.000 Anytime you want to do this, anytime you're in town, you got an open invite. 1.00

02:00:53.000 We'll open this bitch up at 4 o'clock in the morning for you. 1.00

02:00:55.000 Whatever you want, man. 1.00

02:00:56.000 You're fucking awesome. 0.95

02:00:59.000 Continued safety and success in your travels, and thanks for illuminating giant parts of the world that I personally wouldn't have been aware of if it wasn't for you and what you guys are doing. 0.95

02:01:08.000 You're fucking awesome, man. 0.58

02:01:10.000 Thanks, buddy. 0.97

02:01:10.000 Good seeing you. 0.97

02:01:11.000 Good seeing you.

02:01:12.000 Alright, my friends, thank you everyone for tuning in.

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02:01:52.000 That stuff's so good, and it doesn't fuck with me as much as whey does. 0.98

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The Joe Rogan Experience - May 28, 2012

Joe Rogan Experience #221 - Shane Smith

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