The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2216 - Luke Bryan

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00:00:12.000 Hey, what's up, Luke?

00:00:14.000 This has been a long time in the making.

00:00:18.000 I need to thank you for taking care of my family when they came to see your show.

00:00:22.000 I hope they had a great time. 0.98

00:00:24.000 They had a fucking fantastic time. 0.99

00:00:26.000 But it was also, my daughter was like freaked out because she was going to the show. 0.99

00:00:29.000 She didn't know she was going to get to meet you.

00:00:31.000 And her friend didn't know they were going to get to meet you either.

00:00:33.000 So we were able to keep that a...

00:00:35.000 Keep that a good little secret to them.

00:00:39.000 Yeah, it was cool.

00:00:40.000 They had the best time.

00:00:41.000 They came back beaming, so thank you.

00:00:43.000 Well, Vegas, you know, that was wrapping up Vegas, so yeah, that was a fun two years of residency there.

00:00:52.000 Did you do two years there?

00:00:54.000 Yeah, I did two years, 26 shows per year.

00:00:59.000 Dude, man, like...

00:01:02.000 Vegas will take a little piece of your soul. 0.94

00:01:04.000 Just a little tiny piece every day.

00:01:06.000 Well, the thing about it is, like, all of that...

00:01:11.000 Get to Vegas and like, you know, you run to the craps table or blackjack table your whole life getting to Vegas.

00:01:19.000 Dude, I got all that.

00:01:22.000 I'm like, I get to Vegas, I'm like, man, let's just sit in the room, watch a little sports, and I got the gambling out of the system.

00:01:31.000 Well, that's good.

00:01:32.000 Did you used to gamble a lot?

00:01:35.000 You know, I've always been...

00:01:37.000 I've never been a sports gambler.

00:01:40.000 My dad...

00:01:42.000 But my dad raised me to kind of be a poker player kind of kid.

00:01:49.000 He was like a...

00:01:50.000 I mean, I used to joke, if my dad didn't play poker, we'd have never had Santa Claus. 0.79

00:01:56.000 I mean, he was just a crazy little poker player and like a little pool hustler.

00:02:02.000 And then...

00:02:05.000 Oh, so he was all in.

00:02:06.000 Well, so one of my dad's famous quotes is, so he flies me out to Vegas when I'm 21 or whatever, and man, we were in college, and I took like 300 or 400 bucks with me, 0.99

00:02:23.000 you know, just broke as shit. 0.95

00:02:25.000 And, uh, two hours into the trip, lose my money. 0.99

00:02:29.000 And, you know, this was like, well, where we still had truck phones.

00:02:33.000 You know, I'm not even sure we were, like, toting.

00:02:35.000 No, we certainly didn't have, like, the Motorola Razr where he could just call me.

00:02:40.000 So...

00:02:41.000 He just goes looking for them, and he calls my hotel room, and he's like, boy, what you doing?

00:02:46.000 He's real southern Georgia. 0.99

00:02:49.000 I said, I lost all my damn money, and hell with this place. 1.00

00:02:53.000 He goes, well, you ain't going to win it back in the goddamn room. 0.99

00:02:59.000 So, I mean, once you have that mindset in gambling, certainly, I mean, when that's your dad going. 0.99

00:03:08.000 And so that's been a famous saying when my buddies, you know, when they're down and out, down two or three grand, and they're pouting over at the bar, you know, you're not going to win it back at the goddamn bar. 0.98

00:03:19.000 But I did. 0.86

00:03:20.000 I went through phases where, you know, I never really got financially behind when I didn't have money.

00:03:27.000 I would just...

00:03:29.000 I controlled it pretty well.

00:03:30.000 And I did my two years out there.

00:03:32.000 I never really had any big beats or anything like that.

00:03:37.000 But I do love to just...

00:03:38.000 Man, I love to just sit there, have a drink, have a cigar, and watch Dyson Cards.

00:03:43.000 Because you're just not...

00:03:45.000 You're just sitting there and your mind's checked out.

00:03:47.000 It's like...

00:03:49.000 No different than going to the driving range and hitting golf balls or sitting on the bank fishing or sitting in a deer stand.

00:03:57.000 But I got out of there.

00:03:59.000 I got all my gambling, at least for now, out of my system.

00:04:02.000 But it was great to meet your kids there.

00:04:05.000 I really appreciate it.

00:04:06.000 They really enjoyed it.

00:04:07.000 And like I said, they were just blown away.

00:04:10.000 Meeting you, they were like...

00:04:11.000 Well, it was a fun show because we got to really do a lot of bells and whistles out there that aren't available on normal shows when you're out touring and stuff because you're having to take down stuff,

00:04:27.000 be real mobile out there.

00:04:28.000 We put a lot of stuff in the room.

00:04:30.000 Well, that's nice.

00:04:31.000 That's one good thing about the residency.

00:04:33.000 You know, you're going back to the same spot over and over again.

00:04:36.000 And we had our routine.

00:04:37.000 I mean, I had my room and, you know, about 6.30, I'd hop in the shower, run down there and get on stage about 8.30 and knock it out.

00:04:46.000 And 10.30...

00:04:48.000 Somewhere at a craps table.

00:04:49.000 I'm lucky I don't gamble.

00:04:51.000 I don't do it.

00:04:51.000 You never got into sports?

00:04:53.000 Nope.

00:04:54.000 I used to bet on fights.

00:04:55.000 Back in the early days of the UFC, I used to bet on fights, and one day they made it illegal, but I already stopped doing it, because I was like, this is probably not a good thing for me to be betting on things I'm commentating on, because I can't affect the outcome.

00:05:08.000 Right.

00:05:09.000 But it's still quite close. 1.00

00:05:11.000 I also sometimes know some shit. 0.99

00:05:15.000 This has been a bunch of times. 0.99

00:05:16.000 So one of my business partners, I would tell him what to bet on.

00:05:20.000 And we were at like 84% at one time.

00:05:22.000 It was crazy.

00:05:24.000 For like six or seven fights in a row, six or seven fight cards in a row, we were at about 84%.

00:05:29.000 Because every now and then, they would have these guys that were coming in from Japan.

00:05:33.000 Or from Russia.

00:05:34.000 And the oddsmakers didn't know who these guys were.

00:05:37.000 And I was like, oh, Jesus Christ, bet the house.

00:05:40.000 And you already were studying them for years.

00:05:44.000 So I knew everything about these guys. 1.00

00:05:46.000 I'm like, Jesus Christ, bet the fucking house. 1.00

00:05:48.000 Lay up. 1.00

00:05:48.000 Yeah, there was a few. 1.00

00:05:50.000 Like when Anderson Silva came into the UFC, I was like, bet the house.

00:05:54.000 Bet the house on the Brazilian. 1.00

00:05:56.000 Whatever you I go throw it all at this guy. 1.00

00:05:59.000 You can't fucking lose. 0.98

00:06:00.000 Because when he came into the UFC, he was like in his prime. 0.99

00:06:04.000 And I got to see him evolve in Japan and then later on in England.

00:06:08.000 And so when he came into the UFC, I think he was a favorite over this guy, Chris Liebman, who's a really tough guy. 0.94

00:06:13.000 But I'm like, whatever the odds are, fucking throw it all at that guy. 0.95

00:06:17.000 I bet y'all. 0.97

00:06:18.000 Were you betting with them too at that time?

00:06:20.000 No, I wasn't betting.

00:06:20.000 I had already stopped.

00:06:21.000 It was like, I could get in trouble.

00:06:23.000 Don't get in any trouble now either.

00:06:25.000 Don't lose the gig.

00:06:26.000 Well, now the UFC made a law, and it was real recent, like two years ago.

00:06:30.000 Up until like two years ago, all staff, anyone could bet.

00:06:33.000 Now no one can bet.

00:06:35.000 Really?

00:06:35.000 Yeah, because there was a scandal.

00:06:37.000 One of the trainers apparently was involved, allegedly was involved, knew about an injury, and then it turned out there's probably some other bets that are a little shady that perhaps allegedly people were involved with, so they're like, okay, we've got to put a stop to this,

00:06:53.000 which is too bad. 0.96

00:06:55.000 Because it was fucking, it's nice to know. 0.99

00:06:57.000 If I was unscrupulous. 0.99

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00:08:57.000 I had a little, so I went my whole life, no sports betting.

00:09:02.000 Through college, I'd walk in and my buddies back then, they'd spliced eight TVs together and they got all their notes.

00:09:14.000 And I'm like... 0.98

00:09:17.000 And I'm like, dude, no wonder you're fucking, you got all D's and you're about to get shipped out of college. 0.99

00:09:24.000 But I survived all that and me and a buddy, we started picking two games a week. 0.99

00:09:32.000 And we would load up.

00:09:34.000 And this was like six years ago, five years ago.

00:09:39.000 So I would load up like $20,000 a game.

00:09:43.000 But I was strict, and I had my deal.

00:09:48.000 And we'd like bet.

00:09:52.000 I mean, just take Alabama and the points in the first half.

00:09:56.000 You do that.

00:09:58.000 Most of the year, I mean, it was 80%.

00:10:00.000 So we did well.

00:10:01.000 And then my buddy moved away from me and we quit talking about it.

00:10:05.000 And then I went rogue for like two years.

00:10:08.000 I was betting like Utah State at, you know, the West Coast game, midnight, just throwing bets in.

00:10:15.000 And I was like, man, I'm out.

00:10:18.000 So I'll stop.

00:10:19.000 Did you see uncut gems?

00:10:21.000 Yes.

00:10:23.000 Dude, that movie tripped me out.

00:10:29.000 I think it tripped everybody out, though.

00:10:31.000 What a great movie.

00:10:32.000 Especially if you've dipped your toe into that world of like...

00:10:37.000 And I've got buddies that do parlays.

00:10:41.000 I'm not even sure I even understand the inner workings of parlays now.

00:10:46.000 And teasers and all that.

00:10:49.000 I'm so removed from that level of sport.

00:10:54.000 So-and-so's going to get four layups at the half. 1.00

00:10:58.000 Man, that's opening up Pandora's box there.

00:11:02.000 It is, and you've got to think there's people that are involved.

00:11:06.000 There's been scandals where referees were involved, where referees were making calls they shouldn't have made, maybe calling fouls they shouldn't have called, and people getting paid.

00:11:15.000 There's so much money being thrown around, and the average referee, what do they make?

00:11:19.000 Hey, dude, so I saw you at the—I'm a giant Georgia fan.

00:11:24.000 And I saw you, obviously, on the sideline on Saturday, and just, man, some of those calls.

00:11:30.000 Yeah, there were some bad calls.

00:11:31.000 It started getting weird.

00:11:33.000 We actually left after the first quarter and went to see M&M. So we had an epic day.

00:11:37.000 We saw the first quarter of UT, Georgia, and then jetted and went to M&M at the racetrack.

00:11:44.000 Oh, the Formula One?

00:11:45.000 Yeah, M&M played in front of like 150,000 people. 0.99

00:11:48.000 It was fucking wild. 0.99

00:11:49.000 I mean, what a weekend for Austin, too. 0.99

00:11:51.000 I mean, because I had buddies...

00:11:53.000 I had buddies that were like, why are you not coming?

00:11:56.000 And I'm like, man, I've had to be me all year, and it's like the weather's chilly in Nashville.

00:12:03.000 My boys want to go deer hunting.

00:12:04.000 I'm going to take them deer hunting, sit on my back patio, and scream at the TV. But it got a little dicey there on the back.

00:12:13.000 I was like, oh, it was weird.

00:12:16.000 Yeah, well, just the energy.

00:12:18.000 There's so much anticipation for a game like that.

00:12:22.000 You can't replicate it in any other...

00:12:26.000 I guess those big...

00:12:33.000 Global Brazil versus Argentina or whatever.

00:12:37.000 We had some friends from England who had never been to an American football game before.

00:12:40.000 What was their take on it?

00:12:41.000 They were blown away.

00:12:42.000 They're like, oh my goodness.

00:12:44.000 Oh my goodness.

00:12:45.000 This is madness.

00:12:47.000 I'm like, this is Texas football.

00:12:49.000 It's so fun though.

00:12:50.000 They get serious here.

00:12:51.000 It's crazy. 0.98

00:12:51.000 I got to shoot the cannon. 0.98

00:12:53.000 Boom! 0.99

00:12:53.000 Did you shoot it through the Georgia shirt, that one? 0.99

00:12:55.000 Yeah.

00:12:56.000 Oh gosh!

00:12:58.000 Maybe I gave you bad luck.

00:12:59.000 You hurt my heart.

00:13:00.000 Maybe it was bad luck because they lost.

00:13:03.000 Maybe what? 0.99

00:13:03.000 Maybe it's a fucking rude thing to do. 0.99

00:13:07.000 Yeah, man. 0.99

00:13:08.000 It was a good win for George.

00:13:11.000 And like I said, both those programs are just so incredible.

00:13:14.000 It's when you're watching it behind the scenes.

00:13:16.000 You know, watching how much organization there is.

00:13:20.000 It's incredibly complex.

00:13:22.000 Through the years, Kirby and I have gotten to be Pretty good buddies.

00:13:28.000 Kirby can't be buddies with anybody because that job requires...

00:13:35.000 I've never seen a requirement of a job more than being a college.

00:13:41.000 It's probably like being a president.

00:13:42.000 It is, and so I don't text Kirby during the season, really.

00:13:47.000 I know he, and man, just watching what those guys go through trying to manage these big programs like that.

00:13:53.000 I mean, and when they're not coaching, I mean, dude, they are politicking.

00:13:59.000 Yeah.

00:14:00.000 I mean, they got to go to the steak supper for this touchdown club here.

00:14:06.000 You know, so man, it's a wild ride what those dudes go through.

00:14:10.000 And when you think about gambling with calls, like bad calls, that has got to be... 0.99

00:14:14.000 Imagine all your money's on the line, and you see some horrendous call, and you fucking... 0.98

00:14:20.000 See, I'm out of that. 0.97

00:14:21.000 And I didn't really get into that heavily, even when I was betting regular games.

00:14:28.000 But man, it's freedom.

00:14:30.000 Man, I just watch the games with freedom, and I don't get in, you know.

00:14:33.000 I'm good friends with Dana White, and Dana, he's a real degenerate.

00:14:39.000 I love how big...

00:14:40.000 That's the best way to describe...

00:14:43.000 Oh, he'll describe it that way.

00:14:45.000 I get it from him.

00:14:47.000 Like your big horse racing guys, their adjective of themselves is, I'm a degenerate.

00:14:53.000 That's the first thing they say.

00:14:54.000 Well, Jamie and I went to visit...

00:14:56.000 We went with Shane Gillis and a bunch of other guys.

00:14:58.000 We went to visit Dana while he was gambling.

00:15:00.000 When we got there, he was down $600,000.

00:15:04.000 And I was like, what is happening here?

00:15:06.000 I heard him say he learned how to play back rap because you can bet more.

00:15:09.000 You can bet like 500k a hand or something or crazy like that.

00:15:13.000 That's so crazy!

00:15:15.000 I was getting anxiety just sitting there watching.

00:15:18.000 And so then Taylor LeJuan came over and Dana and Taylor have this deal where Dana teaches Taylor what to gamble and how to do it.

00:15:26.000 They're down $120,000 in what?

00:15:29.000 Five minutes?

00:15:30.000 Five minutes.

00:15:30.000 Five minutes are down $120,000.

00:15:32.000 And I'm just sitting there going, what the fuck, man? 1.00

00:15:35.000 Look, Dana's rich as shit. 1.00

00:15:36.000 Obviously. 1.00

00:15:37.000 I know Taylor is wealthy, but there's like a level where you could lose $125,000 is $125,000.

00:15:44.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I've learned kind of like, if you're betting $1,000 a hand, you can get down $50,000.

00:15:51.000 Yeah.

00:15:52.000 Like, quick.

00:15:54.000 But when you transition to that...

00:15:57.000 $30,000, $40,000, $50,000 a hand, you'll be down a million or two.

00:16:02.000 And I say, because I've watched some other buddies that bet on that level, I'm talking about like 15-hand swing is an $800,000 swing.

00:16:12.000 And I'm like...

00:16:13.000 But that's the scary part about gambling when you don't have much money and you grow into some money, but your level of what you want to press, your anxiety level and your endorphins and all that, it grows with your wealth.

00:16:30.000 And man, next thing you know, you're...

00:16:32.000 Well, that's the only way they get their fix, too.

00:16:34.000 They can't pay $20 a hand.

00:16:35.000 Yeah, right.

00:16:36.000 That goes away.

00:16:38.000 Well, it's like the whole...

00:16:40.000 There's a lot in society that...

00:16:44.000 I think we're preyed upon with that thought process, gambling and a lot of it.

00:16:50.000 Dopamine hits.

00:16:51.000 Right.

00:16:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:52.000 And then once one level of the dopamine levels out, then you go to the next one.

00:16:57.000 Yeah, it's hard to watch.

00:16:59.000 Forget about doing it.

00:17:01.000 It's hard to watch.

00:17:02.000 I don't get it.

00:17:03.000 I'm glad I don't do it.

00:17:05.000 I always have fun with it.

00:17:07.000 I mean, I've always had fun gambling, and a lot of times I'd take my band after we get off stage, and we'd have one band night, and I'd, like, set them all up with some chips, and I've gotten at a craps table where I can kind of manage everybody's bets, and I'm like,

00:17:22.000 don't do that now, wait, wait, and it's kind of like the, you know, steering the mothership, and we had some great nights, you know, Just laughing and cutting up and cheering.

00:17:36.000 Like I said, one guy walks up and everybody rubs his head for good.

00:17:39.000 It's just camaraderie at the craps table.

00:17:43.000 I gambled so much at the craps table.

00:17:46.000 My last night, they let my craps team that dealt me all the craps come on stage and we celebrated together.

00:17:58.000 I'm out there, like I'm playing, and I look at my, you know, because they work in teams, you know, and my team comes out on stage, and dude, I was roaring laughing.

00:18:09.000 I'm like, yeah, so.

00:18:11.000 That's hilarious.

00:18:13.000 Look, I know people have a problem with gambling.

00:18:15.000 I think it should be legal, but it can get away from you.

00:18:18.000 Yeah, well.

00:18:19.000 But that's like a lot of things in this world.

00:18:21.000 Alcohol, there's a lot of things that can get away from you.

00:18:24.000 It doesn't mean it should be illegal.

00:18:26.000 Right, well, Lord.

00:18:28.000 It's just weird that it's only legal in a few states.

00:18:30.000 I think that's expanding now.

00:18:32.000 I remember when online gambling was illegal.

00:18:35.000 Oh, yeah, and then...

00:18:37.000 It wasn't that long ago.

00:18:38.000 The early days of the UFC, online gambling was illegal.

00:18:41.000 And then, you know, because we're obviously southeastern Tennessee Bible Belt, and I don't know, but there's certain states.

00:18:50.000 I guess Tennessee is a legal gambling state, because...

00:18:53.000 Or maybe George.

00:18:54.000 I can't tell.

00:18:55.000 I have to talk to my nephews, all of his buddies, and see if they're on the little apps.

00:19:00.000 But, man, they'll go sign their buddies up to get the $200 free.

00:19:05.000 I mean, they got all kind of a racket.

00:19:07.000 Yeah, well, and then also people would go to Indian reservations.

00:19:10.000 That was the big thing.

00:19:11.000 Right.

00:19:11.000 Which is also crazy.

00:19:13.000 Like, gambling's illegal.

00:19:14.000 You gotta pay the Indian reservation tax. 0.97

00:19:17.000 Right.

00:19:17.000 You know, you gotta pay your 50 cent to do the dollar bet.

00:19:21.000 Yeah.

00:19:21.000 Do that math.

00:19:23.000 Yeah, and you only have to be a small percentage Native American to get a piece of that.

00:19:28.000 So there's a lot of millionaires just hanging around that casino, just enjoying it.

00:19:34.000 But if you've got a place like in Connecticut...

00:19:36.000 Oh, Mohegan and all that.

00:19:38.000 They're great places.

00:19:40.000 Typically, on my way kind of...

00:19:43.000 The Mohegan, I'd go play there a couple years.

00:19:45.000 One night I did three nights there, and dude, I'm getting off stage, just sitting there gambling, and I'm like, am I coming out ahead on this gig or what?

00:19:53.000 But I think I got out of there making a little money.

00:19:56.000 Yeah.

00:19:57.000 It's weird, though, that you could do that legally.

00:20:00.000 Well, then even in Tennessee and Tunica back in the day, you just put a barge on the Mississippi River and you can gamble.

00:20:07.000 It's like, what is that all about?

00:20:10.000 Right, that's that show Ozark.

00:20:12.000 Right.

00:20:12.000 Yeah, well, totally the same premise, you know.

00:20:15.000 It's like, put a barge on the river, and now let's take all these people's money.

00:20:20.000 Yeah, my buddy Johnny, he was a pool hustler.

00:20:23.000 He used to call people riverboat gamblers.

00:20:25.000 When guys would just go off, and you know a guy was a gambling addict, you'd just trick him into a game.

00:20:30.000 He's like, you guys are a riverboat gambler.

00:20:32.000 Yeah, that's the two analogies.

00:20:34.000 Degenerate or riverboat gambler.

00:20:36.000 Be careful of all of them. 0.99

00:20:38.000 It's just always been funny to me that Native American reservations are essentially a country inside the country, and they can do whatever the fuck they want. 0.98

00:20:45.000 I was just reading about this Colorado wolf deal, where they've relocated wolves to Colorado, and the Native American reservation let them know, the moment those wolves get onto our land, we're flying over in helicopters and gunning them down. 0.91

00:21:01.000 I elk hunt every year in Colorado.

00:21:03.000 Is that where you've done?

00:21:05.000 I've done Colorado.

00:21:07.000 Most of the years I go to Utah.

00:21:09.000 Well, first of all, Cam Haynes and I, we've got a connection with Cam.

00:21:14.000 Just love that guy.

00:21:16.000 So when I saw Colorado do that, I was like...

00:21:19.000 It's just like, what are we doing, guys?

00:21:22.000 Well, whenever you have biology that's getting voted on by people who don't understand it, it should be decided by wildlife biologists.

00:21:29.000 That's it.

00:21:29.000 That's the only people that should decide whether or not things like that happen.

00:21:33.000 Well, we can really dive into this and let's do it.

00:21:37.000 My thing is, We are so governed in the world of wildlife biology through the states and stuff, they're not going to let humans ruin animal populations,

00:21:53.000 I don't think, anymore.

00:21:55.000 No, of course.

00:21:55.000 If anything's going to happen, they're going to mess it up and let animal populations get too big.

00:22:03.000 Right.

00:22:05.000 I was, and I don't know who to name or whatever, but I was with some guys with Wyoming, and we're talking about grizzly bears.

00:22:15.000 And I said, man, you know, because they brought up grizzly bear problems, and I said, well, what is the deal?

00:22:24.000 And they said, well, there's 1,400 to 1,500 grizzly bears in Wyoming.

00:22:30.000 There needs to be 500 to 600. And five of the 1,500 are only hunting humans.

00:22:38.000 Like, have totally...

00:22:41.000 But there's not that many human deaths.

00:22:45.000 Well, in Yellowstone, if you pay attention, there's about two or three that get...

00:22:52.000 Right, but those 500 grizzly bears that are just hunting humans...

00:22:54.000 No, five.

00:22:55.000 Oh, five.

00:22:56.000 Five, not 500. So there's five grizzly bears...

00:22:59.000 Right, there's like five grizzly...

00:23:01.000 Sorry, this probably won't be the first time I... Jesus Christ.

00:23:27.000 That is a high-up biologist in Wyoming telling me that.

00:23:31.000 And I'm like, well, why won't they let y'all go in there, let some hunters, think about the, you can do the math chart, do a $30,000 grizzly bear tag, do a $20,000 one.

00:23:43.000 They'll go for that.

00:23:44.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:23:46.000 Go in and let it, manage it right, but there's one federal judge that's got it all shut down.

00:23:51.000 One judge.

00:23:52.000 That's so crazy.

00:23:53.000 My friend went moose hunting, said he saw no moose and he saw 12 grizzlies in Wyoming.

00:23:59.000 I went on a bear hunt in Alberta, and there's so many grizzlies now, you can't even go.

00:24:06.000 It was through Cam's people.

00:24:08.000 John and Jen.

00:24:09.000 Yeah, I saw them recently, and they've had to move.

00:24:12.000 Yeah, they move areas.

00:24:13.000 Yeah, they have abandoned areas because they're overrun with grizzlies.

00:24:15.000 They sent me some trail cam pics that are terrifying, like little school buses.

00:24:20.000 They look like school buses. 1.00

00:24:21.000 Like the size of these fucking grizzlies. 0.99

00:24:23.000 Was it you that was talking about they were trying to determine a male grizzly versus a male gorilla and who would win? 0.99

00:24:29.000 I think I'm on team grizzly.

00:24:32.000 Me too.

00:24:32.000 Because they eat things and kill things every day.

00:24:34.000 Gorillas just, they fight.

00:24:36.000 They just like, they puff their chest out and they mostly eat grass.

00:24:40.000 Well, but when you think about $30,000, $40,000 per grizzly and then the guiding fee and then the taxidermy.

00:24:48.000 Yeah.

00:24:48.000 Think about the taxidermist.

00:24:50.000 And then the Pittman Roberts, people need to understand, all the gear, everything, 10% of that goes to wildlife management.

00:24:56.000 All of it.

00:24:57.000 And then at the end of that, nobody's going to let the grizzlies get...

00:25:01.000 Exterminated.

00:25:03.000 Right!

00:25:04.000 They're overpopulated now.

00:25:05.000 And then when you look at the population, how beautiful the elk population is in Colorado, and how amazingly managed it is in Colorado.

00:25:14.000 For public hunters, for a guy like me that can go get an over-the-counter tag, I think they're probably going to wipe out over-the-counter tags for out-of-staters.

00:25:24.000 They're going to make it a draw tag.

00:25:25.000 And then, now the wolves get to eat them, and I don't get to bring my elk hunting money in and give it to them.

00:25:32.000 Right.

00:25:34.000 I don't get it.

00:25:35.000 Well, the thing is, they always say that they're going to get to a certain level of the population, and then they're going to open it up for management.

00:25:42.000 But they don't.

00:25:42.000 Wolf management?

00:25:43.000 Yeah.

00:25:44.000 But what happens is people sue.

00:25:46.000 And the wildlife, you know, all the people that love wolves, they sue.

00:25:51.000 And when they sue, they stop the hunt, and then it has to go to court, and it has to get decided.

00:25:56.000 And if you get a radical judge, like this judge that you said that's in Wyoming...

00:26:00.000 And these are all...

00:26:02.000 Things that people in the know are telling me, so Lord, I don't need a judge somewhere in Wyoming like pulling my...

00:26:08.000 No, you're probably right.

00:26:09.000 You're probably right.

00:26:10.000 Everyone that I know that hunts there says there's a lot of grizzly bears, and it's concerning because you don't see all of them.

00:26:16.000 If you see a lot of them, there's a lot more than you don't see because most of them are not just out in the open hanging out with you.

00:26:22.000 Most of them are deep in the woods.

00:26:24.000 Well, and so I went on a...

00:26:29.000 I went on a salmon trip up in British Columbia.

00:26:36.000 99% of your interpretation of a grizzly is this big old fat chunky thing.

00:26:43.000 Well, so we're flying in on these helicopters to go...

00:26:48.000 The salmon runs that are running up into the mountains of British Columbia, and it's an amazing trip.

00:26:54.000 You fly over in the helicopter, you look down, you see the huge schools of salmon, you take your fly rod and you go catch them and drink your beer.

00:27:02.000 Well, the helicopter pilot was like, hey man, we've seen some grizzlies.

00:27:07.000 In the area, just...

00:27:08.000 And, you know, at the time, we're like, man, this is all part of the...

00:27:12.000 Experience.

00:27:12.000 Yeah, it's like, get us kind of going a little bit.

00:27:15.000 Well, we land, and the night before, we didn't fish that day, so we'd flown in and drank some wine, and, dude, you know, my eyes are, like, fuzzy, and we're fishing, and I tell my guy, I'm with him, like, hey, I'm going to go to the helicopter and get a beer or something.

00:27:29.000 And, dude, I get there, and I pop my beer, and I'm like...

00:27:32.000 I look down the river, and I'm like... 1.00

00:27:35.000 Fuck, that is a fucking grizzly coming toward my buddy. 1.00

00:27:40.000 And I went, Jay! 1.00

00:27:41.000 And dude, it was slim and like a damn... 0.99

00:27:47.000 It was lean and like a greyhound. 0.99

00:27:51.000 Not...

00:27:52.000 I wouldn't say lean, but it hadn't got all fat on salmon yet.

00:27:57.000 Well, it comes down the bank...

00:28:00.000 And jumps in, and we ease back to the helicopter.

00:28:03.000 We look back, here comes another grizzly, literally 30 yards from us.

00:28:10.000 And I'm like...

00:28:12.000 We get there, and I had left my beer on the bank, and my grizzly sticks his tongue in my beer, and then he jumps in the river.

00:28:20.000 I run, grab the beer, drink.

00:28:22.000 I'm like, grizzly spit!

00:28:24.000 Anyway, the helicopter pilot goes.

00:28:27.000 You did not drink a beer after the grizzly.

00:28:28.000 I had to sip of it after.

00:28:29.000 I had to!

00:28:30.000 But that's, like, what kind of trichinosis? 0.99

00:28:33.000 Wild shit are you going to get from that? 0.99

00:28:35.000 Some berry infection or salmon infection. 1.00

00:28:38.000 Yeah, some moose ass. 0.99

00:28:38.000 So listen, dude, we get on the helicopter and the pilot's like, man, they're getting too comfortable. 0.99

00:28:44.000 We take off, fly a mile down the river.

00:28:49.000 I'd already had my fly rod together.

00:28:51.000 I never broke it down, so I sat it in the little basket, and we land.

00:28:55.000 I take off about 200 yards, start fishing, and I had to slide down this 20-foot cut bank where the river had cut the bank.

00:29:06.000 I look across the river, and here comes a grizzly bear galloping on the other side of the river.

00:29:12.000 And I'm like, well, I've already seen the other two mature ones.

00:29:16.000 And I was like, well, that's a baby grizzly.

00:29:19.000 I was like, that's cute.

00:29:22.000 Dude, that grizzly hits that bank on the other side of that river and jumps about 20 feet in the air and lands in that river.

00:29:29.000 It looked like a Volkswagen VW Bug hit that river.

00:29:37.000 I take off to the helicopter.

00:29:40.000 All my guys are like, get here, get here.

00:29:43.000 A mother and two of the babies were on my tail.

00:29:47.000 Oh my God.

00:29:48.000 And when I got to the helicopter, dude, ruined my whole trip.

00:29:52.000 I couldn't realize.

00:29:53.000 That's when it gets scary when you're on the mothers.

00:29:55.000 Oh, they're the ones that... 1.00

00:29:57.000 They fuck everybody up. 1.00

00:29:59.000 In two seconds. 0.99

00:30:00.000 Yeah, they don't play any games.

00:30:01.000 When they have their Cubs with them, they don't take any chances.

00:30:04.000 Like, I'm going to incapacitate this dude. 1.00

00:30:06.000 Fuck him. 1.00

00:30:08.000 It is... 1.00

00:30:09.000 So that was my grizzly encounter.

00:30:11.000 I wish...

00:30:12.000 All these people that get to vote, unlike BC, when BC outlawed grizzly bear hunting, I wish all those people that experience...

00:30:21.000 You should have to experience what it's actually like there.

00:30:23.000 You should have to see.

00:30:24.000 You should have to see the population.

00:30:26.000 You see what it's like experiencing them.

00:30:28.000 These aren't teddy bears.

00:30:29.000 And for you saying you shouldn't be able to manage the population as wildlife biologists say it should be managed, you're putting people in danger, especially people that live over there.

00:30:37.000 The thing about it with me, now listen, I grew up deer hunting my whole life, ducks, dove, quail, and man, I always had a soft spot for bears.

00:30:46.000 And probably I still, it's not like I gotta go shoot bears every year.

00:30:51.000 I mean, whatever.

00:30:52.000 But when you find out, when you hear you are a hunter and there are When I met John and Jenny, and they were like, Luke, there are so many that need to be managed.

00:31:05.000 I was like, man, that's cool.

00:31:06.000 Let's go do a bear hunt.

00:31:08.000 Had a great time, and didn't get all heady with killing a bear.

00:31:14.000 I mean, I know guys in Tennessee, in Gatlinburg, Joe.

00:31:18.000 I mean, dude, they are darting black bears off second-story Holiday Inn balconies.

00:31:26.000 They're digging in.

00:31:29.000 I mean, they're digging in vending machines.

00:31:32.000 And I'm like, dude, it's just a matter of time.

00:31:36.000 Somebody's going to walk out their balcony and they're going to get got right there.

00:31:40.000 100%.

00:31:40.000 And they dart them and move them back into the Smoky Mountains.

00:31:43.000 You know what happened in New Jersey, right?

00:31:45.000 The governor ran on this policy of banning the grizzly bear hunt.

00:31:49.000 And he got in, or excuse me, the black bear hunt.

00:31:51.000 In Jersey.

00:31:52.000 In Jersey.

00:31:52.000 Jersey has the most black bears per capita in the country, which is crazy.

00:31:57.000 I'm going to send you something because I sent this to Cam last night because it's nuts.

00:32:01.000 This dude just shot the state record.

00:32:04.000 So it's back in.

00:32:06.000 Yes, it's back in immediately.

00:32:09.000 Because they had so many interactions.

00:32:12.000 Joe, my mother lives in Mexico Beach, Florida, on the panhandle.

00:32:17.000 There's a lot over there, too.

00:32:18.000 And they, like, trash cans turned over every day.

00:32:21.000 Crazy amounts in South Georgia and Florida.

00:32:24.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:32:26.000 So I have a photo of the bear.

00:32:28.000 Jamie, I'm going to send it to you next to the dude who killed it.

00:32:32.000 That's a good one.

00:32:34.000 Here, I'm going to send you this, too.

00:32:37.000 But look at that.

00:32:38.000 The size of that bear.

00:32:39.000 So this is in New Jersey.

00:32:40.000 This is New Jersey.

00:32:42.000 This is New Jersey.

00:32:43.000 That's a 770 pound bear in New Jersey.

00:32:47.000 I didn't know they were up there that.

00:32:50.000 They're dense.

00:32:51.000 Dense with bears.

00:32:52.000 I have a buddy who lives up there.

00:32:53.000 He sees them.

00:32:53.000 All the time.

00:32:54.000 So down in the furthest most southern corner of Georgia, Bainbridge, Georgia and all that, and then Mexico Beach, Florida, around Lake Seminole.

00:33:02.000 I mean, they're everywhere down there.

00:33:03.000 They're all over the place.

00:33:04.000 You got that photo of that dude laying next to it?

00:33:06.000 Yeah!

00:33:06.000 Look at that.

00:33:07.000 Look at the size of that thing.

00:33:09.000 Now, that article says 800 pounds.

00:33:13.000 That's from Sever Broadheads. 0.96

00:33:15.000 It says 880. But the other article said 770. It looks...

00:33:18.000 It's big.

00:33:20.000 Whatever the actual size it is, it's big.

00:33:22.000 Look at that Sever hole.

00:33:24.000 Good shot, dude.

00:33:25.000 Well, it's...

00:33:25.000 You know, like I said, I'm not the...

00:33:27.000 That's a perfect shot.

00:33:28.000 I think there's healthy numbers of all of it.

00:33:31.000 And like I said, when I see...

00:33:32.000 You know, when you see...

00:33:35.000 I don't know.

00:33:36.000 Wolves and Elks.

00:33:37.000 Well, there's more than healthy numbers.

00:33:40.000 Okay, there it goes.

00:33:41.000 But you know what a hunter is.

00:33:41.000 770. Oh, gutted.

00:33:43.000 770 gutted.

00:33:44.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:33:46.000 Ah.

00:33:46.000 That's what it is.

00:33:47.000 So they weighed it in at 770 pounds gutted.

00:33:50.000 So they think it was about 880. 880. Holy shit!

00:33:54.000 Holy shit! 1.00

00:33:55.000 Yeah, you see they got it in a slide. 0.99

00:33:57.000 They had to put it in a...

00:33:58.000 Well...

00:33:59.000 That's crazy.

00:34:01.000 Man, there's so many of...

00:34:03.000 And for people who don't know, people eat bear.

00:34:05.000 And bear's good.

00:34:06.000 It tastes good.

00:34:07.000 Well, and you know, the sad part about, I think, California, you know, the whole...

00:34:14.000 The gallbladder deal, I don't know much about that, but there was a black market for black bear gallbladders.

00:34:22.000 Yeah, in some cultures, they think it's medicine.

00:34:26.000 So they were killing black bears just for their gallbladder?

00:34:29.000 Yeah.

00:34:30.000 But I think that was overblown.

00:34:31.000 I don't think it's going to affect the population.

00:34:33.000 I'm just guessing, especially a place like New Jersey, how are you going to affect that population?

00:34:38.000 They're everywhere there.

00:34:41.000 You ever see the fights they have in Far Rockaway?

00:34:45.000 What's Far Rockaway?

00:34:46.000 Far Rockaway, New Jersey is like a nice suburb.

00:34:49.000 It's like a nice neighborhood.

00:34:51.000 Giant bears.

00:34:52.000 Jamie, pull that video up.

00:34:54.000 Giant bears brawling on this guy's front lawn.

00:34:57.000 Did you ever see the guy that filmed like the 10-minute grizzly fight?

00:35:00.000 This might be...

00:35:01.000 Oh yes, I did see that.

00:35:03.000 That was...

00:35:03.000 That was insane.

00:35:04.000 But that's where grizzlies are supposed to be. 1.00

00:35:06.000 This is in a fucking neighborhood. 1.00

00:35:08.000 These are big bears and they're duking it out on this guy's nice lawn. 1.00

00:35:12.000 They go tumbling down the stairs and they start fighting in the street and people are watching.

00:35:17.000 And they're probably fighting over trash cans.

00:35:20.000 Look at them. 1.00

00:35:20.000 So look at the size of these fuckers. 1.00

00:35:23.000 Imagine like you're watching TV and you're... 1.00

00:35:30.000 So these dudes, they duke it out.

00:35:32.000 This is like, Jamie, how long is this video?

00:35:34.000 It's like a ten minute video.

00:35:35.000 Six minute video.

00:35:36.000 So six minutes, for six minutes, these dudes duke it out. 0.56

00:35:39.000 They pile out into the street, they're biting each other, and this guy's filming from a car.

00:35:45.000 And you see it as it, like, trumbles down.

00:35:47.000 Like, yeah, pull it down so when they're in this...

00:35:50.000 So they come tumbling down the hill, you know, full UFC style, duking it out.

00:35:56.000 Passing by this guy's mailbox.

00:35:59.000 Look at him.

00:36:00.000 It goes on forever.

00:36:02.000 And they're out in the street.

00:36:03.000 This is a nice neighborhood.

00:36:06.000 And you have huge predators in front of a Volvo. 1.00

00:36:14.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:36:15.000 And this guy was trying to ban the hunt. 1.00

00:36:17.000 Hey, pal, there's plenty of these bears.

00:36:20.000 You should hunt them.

00:36:21.000 Because if you don't hunt them, they're going to hunt you. 0.99

00:36:24.000 Well, they're going to...

00:36:25.000 That's the thing.

00:36:26.000 I think it's no different than...

00:36:28.000 I mean, I grew up in South Georgia with gators. 1.00

00:36:31.000 Yeah, same thing.

00:36:32.000 You get one comfortable with you, man, and it's...

00:36:35.000 Not good.

00:36:36.000 It is not good at all.

00:36:38.000 What's the problem that we're dealing with here is ballot biology.

00:36:42.000 It's all people that are very emotional.

00:36:44.000 Most of them live in cities.

00:36:46.000 Before I ever hunted bear, before I ever hunted at all, I was like, kill a bear? 1.00

00:36:49.000 What an asshole. 1.00

00:36:50.000 You don't have to be an asshole to kill a bear. 1.00

00:36:51.000 And then you get it... 1.00

00:36:52.000 I was kind of the same way.

00:36:54.000 But you probably had more hunting experience than me.

00:36:56.000 I grew up fishing.

00:36:57.000 Well, I had whitetail hunting, and I remember a man, you know, being a 14-year-old kid shooting a deer and having remorse, but then you need to have that remorse, too, as a hunter.

00:37:08.000 You need to understand...

00:37:10.000 You're taking a life.

00:37:11.000 Yes, and you need to...

00:37:13.000 And I tell my boys that.

00:37:14.000 My boys have grown up in it seriously, and I'm like, hey, man...

00:37:19.000 Hold up.

00:37:21.000 Right.

00:37:21.000 Let's just don't run up to it, chunk it in the machine, just do a little homage.

00:37:28.000 Right, so go ahead.

00:37:30.000 But the remorse, go ahead.

00:37:33.000 The remorse is important.

00:37:35.000 It's a part of the experience.

00:37:37.000 You are now connected to the food that you're going to eat.

00:37:40.000 Right.

00:37:40.000 And I think that's what most people don't have.

00:37:43.000 And I think that's bad for us.

00:37:45.000 I think all of human existence has been wrapped around hunting animals, and we hunted them ourselves forever, and then we eventually figured out agriculture.

00:37:56.000 But when we hunted them ourselves, most of the time the humans were human, and we had this deep connection to this animal because this animal was going to sustain our family.

00:38:05.000 And they used it, they took the skin from it, and they made... 0.98

00:38:10.000 All kinds of things.

00:38:11.000 They took the tendons.

00:38:12.000 They made strings for bows.

00:38:14.000 And the fur.

00:38:15.000 Gosh.

00:38:15.000 Yeah, the fur.

00:38:16.000 I mean, it's what their clothes were made out of.

00:38:19.000 They ate all the organs.

00:38:20.000 They ate everything.

00:38:21.000 It sustained everybody, and that was how people lived.

00:38:23.000 And then when people stopped living like that, we got a little confused.

00:38:27.000 I know people that eat meat.

00:38:29.000 Like, my wife was at dinner with her friends, and they were from England.

00:38:34.000 And one of the friends said, where's your husband?

00:38:36.000 And she said, oh, he's elk hunting.

00:38:39.000 And the guy, while he was cutting a steak, made some sort of like, oh, that's atrocious.

00:38:45.000 Why does he do that?

00:38:47.000 And she goes, why are you eating meat? 1.00

00:38:49.000 You paid a supermarket hitman to go kill that fucking steak. 1.00

00:38:52.000 This is so stupid. 1.00

00:38:53.000 But when you're removed from it culturally, and England is basically removed from it culturally, there's roe deer there and there's some stags. 1.00

00:39:00.000 Stag, yeah.

00:39:01.000 But for the most part, England has a very small hunting population, and I believe bow hunting is actually outlawed there.

00:39:08.000 It's outlawed in a lot of places in Europe.

00:39:10.000 It's outlawed in Scotland.

00:39:11.000 It's outlawed in a lot of places.

00:39:12.000 So there's a deep ignorance as to what's going on and what it is, and then they have judgment based on these cultural norms.

00:39:21.000 And there's media depictions.

00:39:24.000 Media depictions of hunters in movies.

00:39:26.000 They're never the good guys. 1.00

00:39:27.000 They're always pieces of shit. 1.00

00:39:29.000 The hunters are always assholes. 1.00

00:39:30.000 They're always drunk. 1.00

00:39:31.000 They're always trying to kidnap women or kill somebody. 0.99

00:39:34.000 Right? 0.98

00:39:34.000 They're always torturing an animal. 0.98

00:39:36.000 There's always something where someone has to come in and fuck up the hunters. 0.72

00:39:39.000 Because hunters are portrayed as bad guys in movies. 0.85

00:39:42.000 Yeah, and then...

00:39:43.000 And listen, you know, the success rate of the proper ethical things always line up.

00:39:53.000 The success rate doesn't always go like you wanted it to.

00:39:58.000 Right.

00:39:59.000 But, you know, the fact that Hunters still are working every day just to keep hunting, and the fact that hunting is declining so bad.

00:40:11.000 I think it took a little uptick during COVID, because during COVID, people were like, hey, man, what if there's no food?

00:40:17.000 My buddy lived in Asheville, and he sent me a photo in the middle of the pandemic.

00:40:22.000 He goes, dude, there's no meat.

00:40:24.000 And he was going down the meat aisle.

00:40:26.000 He's filming it. 1.00

00:40:27.000 He's like, there's no fucking meat here. 0.99

00:40:29.000 One of the best... 0.99

00:40:30.000 Things that's just naturally happened at our house.

00:40:34.000 And my wife is, you know, my wife's, like, typical housewife, plays tennis, great shape, doesn't, you know, she kind of eats like a bird when she does eat, but man, she will call me and she'll go, hey, let's have elk night.

00:40:49.000 And, because we keep our freezer in my garage and I've got all my tackle in there.

00:40:53.000 And she has, through the years, understood Like, hey, I'm going to run out to the freezer.

00:41:00.000 We're going to do taco night.

00:41:02.000 I'm going to throw all the elk meat in the sink and start thawing it.

00:41:05.000 And man, over the last five years...

00:41:08.000 I've woke up and we haven't had beef, cattle, and hamburger, tacos, spaghettis, bolognese.

00:41:17.000 We haven't eaten it in five years at my house.

00:41:21.000 It takes you a minute to go, hey, put it in the freezer and then plan your dinner.

00:41:28.000 We all get busy with kids and stuff like that, but I'm so proud of her that she'll call me and be like, Hey, I'm going out to the freezer.

00:41:34.000 Do you want me to get these elk tenderloins?

00:41:36.000 Because by the time me and my...

00:41:39.000 I got three children that go out there with me now, and two or three of us will get one.

00:41:43.000 I mean, we got enough meat.

00:41:45.000 Like, it's awesome that...

00:41:46.000 It's the best food.

00:41:48.000 It's...

00:41:48.000 So good for you.

00:41:49.000 Man, when you pat out an elk patty hamburger, like, your hands have nothing on it.

00:41:56.000 Right.

00:41:57.000 Like, I mean, you could take beef patty and just like...

00:42:00.000 It's just like...

00:42:02.000 Fat grease.

00:42:03.000 It's like caulking.

00:42:04.000 That's also why it tastes so good.

00:42:06.000 Right.

00:42:07.000 There's a time and place for that.

00:42:08.000 But it's pretty cool that elk gets that.

00:42:11.000 And they still have to add a little bit of pork fat to elk just to keep it. 0.69

00:42:16.000 I give a lot of meat away.

00:42:17.000 And whenever I do, when I get texts back, I get excited. 0.97

00:42:21.000 People are like, damn, this is so good. 0.86

00:42:23.000 And it makes me feel better. 0.99

00:42:24.000 It does make you feel better.

00:42:25.000 There's something about wild game.

00:42:27.000 You get energy from it.

00:42:29.000 Well, yeah, and yeah, when you can go, like, we, at my place, at my deer place in southern Tennessee, yeah, man, we just, we make sure, man, I got a big walk-in cooler there, and if we're not going to take something in there, I put,

00:42:44.000 I've got some red stag up my place in Tennessee.

00:42:47.000 I did a high fence down there, and so between stag and whitetail and elk, We're moving meat around and making jerky.

00:42:55.000 Are they roaring on your property?

00:42:57.000 They do.

00:42:58.000 That's the craziest sound.

00:42:59.000 It's the best.

00:42:59.000 I thought the elk sound was crazy.

00:43:01.000 Elk sound is probably the craziest.

00:43:03.000 It's the best.

00:43:03.000 Elk is.

00:43:04.000 I'm used to it.

00:43:05.000 But the roar of the stag is bizarre.

00:43:07.000 It sounds like a lion.

00:43:09.000 I put one on my Instagram story, Jamie.

00:43:11.000 See if you can find it.

00:43:12.000 There's a dude just staring at the camera roaring.

00:43:15.000 I hear, rather, Argentina is a great place to go.

00:43:18.000 I hear they have a lot of them down in Argentina.

00:43:20.000 We...

00:43:22.000 It's interesting because Tennessee is very, very strict on their whitetail.

00:43:27.000 Here he is.

00:43:28.000 Listen to this guy. 0.98

00:43:45.000 Imagine if you were some dude and it's like a thousand years ago and you don't know what the fuck that is. 0.98

00:43:54.000 So my 14-year-old has been going to Colorado with me since he was five or six. 0.97

00:44:02.000 When they're that little, obviously they can't bow hunt, but we would get an elk down and I'd let the boys hike up with me and pack the elk out.

00:44:11.000 One day we had another hunter with us going to get an elk and my two little ones were And I said, well, we had an elk bugle.

00:44:20.000 I said, hey, boys, stay right here.

00:44:22.000 And they're six and eight.

00:44:27.000 And we went up the hill, and I could keep, well, Tate, right before I walked off, he goes, Dad.

00:44:34.000 Are they going to kill us if we sit here?

00:44:37.000 Because those elk bugle, I mean, you can feel their bugles in the woods.

00:44:41.000 And I said, no, son.

00:44:42.000 Feel them in your chest.

00:44:43.000 So we went up and tried to call this elk in.

00:44:45.000 And then some elk did actually cross in front of them.

00:44:48.000 And there's six and eight just sitting there, this big herd of elk coming by.

00:44:51.000 And we'd come back.

00:44:52.000 And I was watching.

00:44:53.000 I could see them sitting down there on this tall log that I put them on.

00:44:58.000 But I got back and they were like...

00:45:01.000 I mean, you know, having your boys, I mean, that's what I live for and to keep the, you know, and I just wish we could create a narrative where getting your children doing that will, I mean, I don't know.

00:45:16.000 Well, hunting is a very difficult entry.

00:45:18.000 It's very difficult.

00:45:19.000 It is.

00:45:20.000 If you're a person who's like listening to this, like I've never hunted before, but I'd like to learn how to do it.

00:45:25.000 Good luck.

00:45:26.000 It's very hard to do.

00:45:27.000 You're right.

00:45:27.000 Very, very hard.

00:45:28.000 It's very hard to find someone who's going to teach you, who has the patience to show you what to do.

00:45:33.000 If you've never shot a rifle before, it's very hard to understand, like, what is the difference between a.300 Win Mag and a 7mm?

00:45:42.000 That is the tricky part, really, with all outdoors.

00:45:46.000 If you could bridge the gap between...

00:45:50.000 All parts of urban life and allow urban life to find a place to go.

00:45:59.000 But we went through a phase in outdoors where landowners were like, if you hunt my land and you twist your ankle and break your leg, you're going to sue me, so no, you're not allowed to come hunt my land, so all the deer will get overpopulated and eat all my crops.

00:46:14.000 So I think now states, I think Tennessee has put a law into where some of those getting sued...

00:46:22.000 Well, what I'm saying is that feeds people's...

00:46:27.000 Inability to go find somewhere to hunt, too.

00:46:30.000 So many people don't have a 50-acre farm.

00:46:34.000 They can't afford it, but they want to go hunt.

00:46:37.000 I just hope the hunting community and even the whole outdoor community can make it more accessible and landowners.

00:46:44.000 I had this little lady that... 1.00

00:46:47.000 I wanted a turkey hunt.

00:46:49.000 She had 60 acres that bordered like a 300-acre track of mine, and I was like, ma'am, when I'm out hunting and some of my turkeys or our turkeys may cross onto your property, do you mind if I go?

00:47:01.000 And her house is a mile away from, or it's 50 acres, it's probably 400 yards. 0.61

00:47:07.000 She thought my shotgun was going to shoot through her house and kill her. 1.00

00:47:11.000 And I had to spend 45 minutes.

00:47:13.000 And she grew up in Tennessee, in the country, and she doesn't understand that a shotgun is not, you know.

00:47:22.000 And so, man, the education of it all, just the bridge and the knowledge of it gradually gets worse and worse.

00:47:30.000 But the need for it gets greater and greater.

00:47:34.000 And I tell my children all the time, I'm like, boys, There is no drug in the world.

00:47:41.000 And I'm not a, you know, I'm a pretty straight guy, never done much of that, but I said, I got a lot of crazy buddies that have, and when a big elk's walking in, or a big whitetail, or you hook a big fish, the adrenaline from that, no drug will replace it.

00:47:58.000 Nothing's like it. 0.96

00:47:59.000 I've done some wild shit in my time. 0.98

00:48:01.000 I've seen the documentation of the wild stuff. 0.99

00:48:04.000 I've done some wild shit.

00:48:05.000 I'm gonna send you a video, Jamie, of something that happened last week. 0.98

00:48:09.000 So this is the best example of that.

00:48:13.000 This is the best example of that.

00:48:15.000 We had this elk, and he was out at about 50 yards.

00:48:19.000 We'd snuck in on him.

00:48:20.000 He was over the ridge at 50 yards.

00:48:22.000 We could see the tips of his antlers moving around.

00:48:24.000 I had my sights set at 50 yards, and as my friend was calling him, my friend was at a tree that was about 20 yards from me.

00:48:33.000 He came right into our lap.

00:48:35.000 So it was one of those things where I had him range at 50, and then I see him coming in.

00:48:38.000 He's coming in.

00:48:39.000 I range him again at 40. I dial him in.

00:48:41.000 I'm like, oh, shit, he's coming into our lap. 1.00

00:48:43.000 He just kept coming in. 1.00

00:48:44.000 Watch this video.

00:48:46.000 Do you don't have any yet? 1.00

00:48:48.000 God damn. 0.99

00:48:52.000 Modern technology. 1.00

00:48:53.000 It didn't make it through?

00:48:54.000 Oh, it's still going.

00:48:55.000 Hold on.

00:48:56.000 Pressing it to send it through iMessage.

00:48:58.000 Oh, is that what it is?

00:49:00.000 Okay, let me...

00:49:02.000 It said it went through.

00:49:03.000 Did it go through?

00:49:04.000 Okay.

00:49:05.000 Bust out those cigars.

00:49:07.000 You want a little heavy or a mild?

00:49:09.000 Whenever you have.

00:49:10.000 Here it goes.

00:49:10.000 Check this out.

00:49:12.000 Listen to this.

00:49:13.000 Listen to this when he comes over the hill and gets angry.

00:49:18.000 Like when I heard that, I was like, uh-oh, here he comes.

00:49:23.000 So right now he's about 50 yards.

00:49:25.000 What's your heart doing right now?

00:49:27.000 Right now I'm pretty calm because he's at 50 yards.

00:49:29.000 Right.

00:49:30.000 But now I'm realizing he's not going to stop.

00:49:32.000 So I range him again.

00:49:33.000 Now he's at 40. Oh, God.

00:49:34.000 He pauses for a second.

00:49:36.000 He's staring right at me.

00:49:37.000 I have to stop.

00:49:38.000 Oh, yeah.

00:49:39.000 So you're off to the right.

00:49:40.000 I'm off to the right and I'm pressed up against a tree.

00:49:42.000 Full camo.

00:49:43.000 Hiding.

00:49:44.000 In plain sight.

00:49:45.000 So now he's moving out. 1.00

00:49:46.000 So now I'm like, oh, shit. 0.99

00:49:48.000 I'm moving my sight to 20. So now I move my sight to 20. And I'm trying to figure out a time to draw. 0.99

00:49:54.000 So right here I draw, that's when he turns.

00:49:56.000 He needs to see some movement.

00:49:59.000 That's another one bugling.

00:50:02.000 Perfect.

00:50:03.000 That was it.

00:50:04.000 Boom.

00:50:06.000 There's so much nerves, and so much anxiety, and you're ranging him, and he's coming in, and you think he's going to be at 50, but all of a sudden he's at 20, and then it's like, don't punch the shot.

00:50:18.000 Relax.

00:50:19.000 Execute a perfect shot.

00:50:21.000 Well, here's the beauty of all that in the outdoors.

00:50:25.000 You know, when you...

00:50:27.000 Here, these are mild.

00:50:28.000 They're good, though.

00:50:29.000 Okay.

00:50:31.000 Man, when you kind of conquer one level of fishing or hunting, then there's another one you can go learn the space in.

00:50:40.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:50:41.000 You can go...

00:50:42.000 Right.

00:50:43.000 And what I say is, like, I just...

00:50:44.000 I mean, from the elk hunter that I was...

00:50:48.000 The elk hunter that I was 10 years ago, like, took so much work...

00:50:59.000 To even get from a 10% knowledgeable elk hunter to a 60%.

00:51:05.000 Now, I can watch that elk react to everything and know how that elk's reacting because I've done it for 11, 12 years now.

00:51:16.000 And I've taken my boys.

00:51:18.000 So when you get tired of whitetail hunting, and whitetail hunting gets rudimentary, Then go try to dig in and take it to the next level to challenge yourself.

00:51:30.000 That's what's so fun about...

00:51:31.000 Like, when I got...

00:51:32.000 I was always a bass fisherman.

00:51:34.000 Always a bass fisherman.

00:51:36.000 Never a fly fisherman.

00:51:37.000 Well, then I got into fly fisherman, and that became the new seven-year challenge that I... You tie your own flies?

00:51:43.000 I can now the little...

00:51:46.000 I can tie big streamers.

00:51:47.000 Right.

00:51:48.000 But, like, the little bitty... 0.99

00:51:49.000 Where you gotta get, like, goggles on and shit. 0.97

00:51:52.000 Oh, yeah. 0.88

00:51:52.000 I... It's a real art form. 0.88

00:51:55.000 Totally one of the most rewarding things you can do is make your own fly and trick a big-ass fish with it.

00:52:08.000 My only problem with fly fishing is a lot of it is catch and release.

00:52:12.000 And I'm like, it's fun. 0.98

00:52:15.000 I know it's fun, but you're basically just fucking with fish. 1.00

00:52:18.000 You're just fucking with them. 1.00

00:52:19.000 Like, I could have killed you, bitch. 1.00

00:52:22.000 You know? 1.00

00:52:23.000 Well...

00:52:26.000 I get it.

00:52:27.000 I get it.

00:52:28.000 The handling of the trout, like when I was, you know, I grew up bass fishing, and we're like, and the bass flies out of the water.

00:52:35.000 We'd grab it, and, you know, as kids, we're like, ah!

00:52:37.000 You know, you catch a trout, and it's like a...

00:52:40.000 Majestic creature.

00:52:41.000 Yeah, it's like a team in the delivery room comes in to hold the brand new baby.

00:52:48.000 Heck, they treat newborns.

00:52:49.000 They're slapping newborns around and getting their lungs going before you mishandle a trout.

00:52:55.000 But the whole mystique of trout and all of this stuff is just...

00:53:01.000 Man, it's outlets for all of us, you know?

00:53:04.000 I mean, I remember when I moved to Nashville, man, my dad, he kept me fishing and hunting, and he wound up being a pretty dang successful business guy, and he told me, he goes, dude, when you move to Nashville, don't forget to take time to go do that stuff.

00:53:23.000 And, you know, for about two or three years, Man, I didn't.

00:53:26.000 I was focusing on my career.

00:53:29.000 But now as I roll out, you know, as I'm kind of...

00:53:32.000 Established.

00:53:33.000 You know, man, it's been the highlight.

00:53:36.000 The fact that three boys landed in my life, like, you know...

00:53:42.000 My wife's like, it's not even fair that you have, because I can always use one of them. 1.00

00:53:48.000 I was like, well, baby Bo, you know, he's really been stressed at school and he wants to hunt this evening.

00:53:53.000 She's like, I know your game.

00:53:55.000 I know your game.

00:53:57.000 Well, we're so lucky in this country, too, that there's so much places that are public land.

00:54:02.000 That's another thing that Europe doesn't have.

00:54:03.000 I mean, that's what Robin Hood was all about.

00:54:05.000 People think Robin Hood was steal from the rich and give to the poor.

00:54:09.000 No, it was about hunting lands and hunting rights.

00:54:11.000 People were starving and the king had all the land.

00:54:15.000 And there was all these deer, and Robin Hood would go out and whack deer.

00:54:18.000 Like, that was the story about Robin Hood.

00:54:20.000 It really wasn't about stealing money.

00:54:22.000 It was really about hunting rights.

00:54:24.000 Right.

00:54:24.000 They don't have that over there.

00:54:25.000 I didn't know that. 0.99

00:54:26.000 Yeah, but that's why it's so fucked over there. 0.98

00:54:28.000 That's why they don't have this attitude about it. 0.99

00:54:29.000 And that's why, you know, you hope...

00:54:32.000 The whole education of hunting and landowners and conservation of the animals and all the land ties into where, you know, landowners need to...

00:54:45.000 Have a better understanding of, man, give this old boy a break.

00:54:49.000 Give this guy that just knocked on your door and asked permission the good old-fashioned way.

00:54:53.000 Man, give him a break and let him take his son or go hunt. 1.00

00:54:57.000 And don't hoard your 15,000 acres to your dad.

00:55:04.000 But hopefully he's a good guy. 1.00

00:55:05.000 That's the problem also is that assholes ask for permission and then do something stupid and Dude, I had a guy shoot a stag. 1.00

00:55:14.000 The first year I put my stag in my fence, shot him right off the road. 1.00

00:55:17.000 Really?

00:55:17.000 Left him.

00:55:18.000 Man, you talk about pissed.

00:55:23.000 Right off the road. 0.98

00:55:24.000 Just shot him and left him. 1.00

00:55:25.000 Shot him and left him. 0.99

00:55:26.000 Yeah, see, there's people like that out there. 0.98

00:55:28.000 It's the bad apples, you know.

00:55:30.000 They're out there.

00:55:30.000 How could you do that to a stag, too?

00:55:32.000 God, that's so awful.

00:55:33.000 Yeah.

00:55:34.000 And the meat is so sensational.

00:55:36.000 To know that that meat is going to go to waste, that's so crazy.

00:55:38.000 Man, I don't know.

00:55:39.000 You know, I guess enough whiskey and an old back road and a raffle, you'll...

00:55:45.000 Shitty education, bad childhood, all of the above.

00:55:49.000 Well, but...

00:55:50.000 Yeah, all of the above.

00:55:52.000 But yeah, I mean, I look at I've got Till, my nephew, he's lived with me since he was 12, and then Till's 22 now, and Bo is 16, and Tate is 14. And Till was 15 when he killed his first elk.

00:56:13.000 The rule has been, if you can pull 55 pounds, you're ready to hunt.

00:56:20.000 And so Bo is a lot bigger than Tate.

00:56:23.000 When he was 13 and 14, he said, Bo, my 13-year-old killed a full-grown elk at 13. Whoa.

00:56:29.000 With a Bo?

00:56:30.000 With a Bo. 0.57

00:56:31.000 Whoa. 0.56

00:56:32.000 Totally the friggin' most badass thing I've ever seen. 0.74

00:56:36.000 And then... 0.96

00:56:36.000 Just to be that young and be able to execute the shot. 0.96

00:56:39.000 Dude, he did it, and he earned it.

00:56:41.000 And like I said, I've been hiking him up those hills.

00:56:44.000 That's what another...

00:56:45.000 Like, the hunting and the killing is... 1.00

00:56:49.000 Man, when you pack out a damn 800-pound animal... 0.98

00:56:53.000 The first time I packed my elk out, dude, when I got to the Polaris, I mean, I was like... 0.99

00:57:00.000 I was sobbing, like from exertion, like delusional, because we took a wrong turn, we hit a big Aspen blowdown, and I had to tote the head and the cape out, and I had to walk over blown-down Aspens with that cape.

00:57:17.000 And once we got 500 yards into the blowdown, And man, we got to that buggy, and all the elk hunting guys, they're the toughest dudes.

00:57:29.000 Oh yeah, they're doing that all year long.

00:57:30.000 They're grizzled. 0.58

00:57:32.000 They're the toughest guys.

00:57:33.000 I tell people, man, if I get called to a serious...

00:57:38.000 If I get called in in a serious war, I'm calling my elk guides.

00:57:42.000 That's my first call.

00:57:45.000 But it's, you know, and I didn't grow up ever thinking I'd have the opportunity or the ability to go hunt elk.

00:57:52.000 But once you start doing it and...

00:57:55.000 But, you know, man, this week I killed...

00:57:58.000 Thursday I killed my biggest whitetail I ever did.

00:58:01.000 And, man, I was so...

00:58:03.000 I'm so... 0.97

00:58:06.000 I'm overwhelmed by killing it.

00:58:08.000 I don't even know if I've enjoyed it yet because it kind of happened fast.

00:58:13.000 But it's just so fun.

00:58:15.000 Do you have a picture?

00:58:16.000 How big is it?

00:58:18.000 It was big.

00:58:20.000 I didn't post it because it's obviously in my high fence.

00:58:25.000 But man, this deer was born in the fence.

00:58:28.000 In Tennessee, you can't bring any genetics in.

00:58:31.000 You can't do anything.

00:58:32.000 Whatever herd you have...

00:58:34.000 Wild herd.

00:58:35.000 Whatever wild Tennessee deer you have, you have to grow them. 0.99

00:58:39.000 And man, this deer, Joe, when he was two years old, we were like, what in the fuck? 0.97

00:58:48.000 What a UFO ship dropped this off in here. 0.99

00:58:52.000 He started with huge mass, different looking genetics, and we watched him for, we grew him for, we feel like he's five and a half.

00:59:02.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:59:03.000 Dude, we are over the moon.

00:59:05.000 Don't say a stag.

00:59:06.000 I know.

00:59:07.000 That's a huge deer.

00:59:08.000 How big is your property?

00:59:10.000 I guess altogether it's probably 1,200 acres in the fence.

00:59:15.000 So that is much more space than a deer would ever travel in its natural life anyway.

00:59:21.000 I'll put it to you this way.

00:59:24.000 We put about 18 red stag in there.

00:59:28.000 We don't know how many there are. 0.98

00:59:31.000 That deer might have got fucked by a stag. 0.99

00:59:33.000 I think he might have. 1.00

00:59:34.000 I think his mom.

00:59:34.000 Yeah, he might have crossed.

00:59:37.000 That might be a hybrid.

00:59:37.000 A hybrid, yeah.

00:59:39.000 Dude, we will ride around.

00:59:41.000 We have too many stag, and we'll try to thin them out.

00:59:44.000 Joe, we can't find them.

00:59:46.000 Like...

00:59:48.000 Literally, like, we'll spend a day.

00:59:51.000 I'm like, hey, grab the rifle.

00:59:53.000 We're going to pull up here, walk this bottom.

00:59:55.000 Can't find them.

00:59:56.000 There's 60 of them in there.

00:59:58.000 We hunted them for four days this weekend.

01:00:00.000 We killed two.

01:00:04.000 So 1,200 is, I mean...

01:00:07.000 It's much larger than a deer would have in its natural realm.

01:00:10.000 Yeah, and I, you know, listen, I mean, there are a million ways you can criticize me for having the high fence, but, you know, I have low fences that we bounce back and forth on the low fences.

01:00:24.000 Because that's fun as hell, too, to not know what's walking in.

01:00:28.000 But the main thing is, I wanted my boys to have the ability to manage deer and grow them.

01:00:34.000 I grew up, I love South Texas.

01:00:37.000 Big, big, I love South Texas deer hunt.

01:00:42.000 But I learned I leased a South Texas place down here.

01:00:47.000 And then I learned having young children and my schedule, man, to go own a South Texas ranch, commit that much to a South Texas ranch, and get five days there wasn't my thing.

01:00:58.000 So my high fence in Tennessee is kind of like my little ode or my little homage to my love for South Texas whitetails.

01:01:07.000 So you can keep it close?

01:01:08.000 Keep it close.

01:01:09.000 It's 55 minutes from the house.

01:01:11.000 Oh, that's nice.

01:01:12.000 And it's a retreat.

01:01:13.000 I get down there.

01:01:15.000 You know, Starlink has ruined us because now we have internet.

01:01:19.000 But before that, man, we'd pull in the holler down there and you'd have to drive up to the hill to make a phone call.

01:01:26.000 But, oh, Elon saved us on that.

01:01:28.000 Yeah, the new Starlink's wild.

01:01:30.000 It's the size of like a notebook.

01:01:32.000 Well, what was funny is the first time we saw the satellites come over, we were at elk camp.

01:01:39.000 You know, my nephew, Till, he's 21, and we're all liquored up, and my nephew, he goes, Guys, I know we've been drinking all day, but what in the hell is coming toward us right now? 0.96

01:01:51.000 And we were like, and then we had one guy in the group was like, God damn, that's Elon Musk! 0.94

01:02:00.000 And we watched it go over and we were like, wow, what a, what a... 0.93

01:02:06.000 It's amazing.

01:02:07.000 We used one in Utah for the first time this year.

01:02:09.000 So easy to set up, set it up in like five minutes.

01:02:11.000 We did it too.

01:02:12.000 And then we're online, YouTube, whatever you want.

01:02:13.000 I mean, my wife, when I went to elk camp, my wife was like, all right, I'll hear you, I'll see you, I'll talk to you in six days.

01:02:21.000 First day, elk camp, set the Starlink out, FaceTime, hey baby, how are you?

01:02:28.000 It's crazy.

01:02:28.000 Yeah.

01:02:29.000 My buddy was deer hunting recently in South Texas, and he said on three different occasions in the week, their deer got bumped by illegals.

01:02:39.000 He said it was crazy.

01:02:41.000 He said illegal aliens just moving through the ranch.

01:02:44.000 He said they have, you know, a swarm of them every day.

01:02:48.000 I hunt South Texas every year, and the ranch we went to last year...

01:02:55.000 At any given moment, you can drive and pick up 50 backpacks.

01:03:00.000 They just...

01:03:02.000 That ranch looks like...

01:03:06.000 And I hadn't been...

01:03:08.000 This ranch was closer to the border than I've ever been.

01:03:12.000 And there are piles of backpacks and tarps.

01:03:16.000 You know, they'll take tarps and...

01:03:35.000 My buddy who has a ranch in South Texas found a dead guy.

01:03:39.000 Found a guy who ran out of water.

01:03:41.000 Just died on his ranch.

01:03:42.000 It's heartbreaking because, dude, I can't imagine having to walk through that brush to get to freedom.

01:03:51.000 Right.

01:03:52.000 And not knowing where you're going.

01:03:53.000 Not knowing where you're going and probably you have kids.

01:03:57.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:03:58.000 Dude, when I leave South Texas, I'm pulling cactuses out of my ass for a month. 0.99

01:04:03.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:04:03.000 Especially if you do, you know, you go rattle for them and stuff. 0.99

01:04:08.000 Forget about rattlesnakes.

01:04:10.000 Forget about everything else that's down there.

01:04:11.000 And water, yeah, when you think about, man, you get your water rations.

01:04:15.000 Yeah.

01:04:15.000 You miss that?

01:04:17.000 Yeah.

01:04:18.000 You could zig when you should have zagged and you're not going to run into water, especially down there.

01:04:21.000 And it was in the summer, so, you know, 105 degrees outside.

01:04:25.000 This poor dude just died.

01:04:29.000 And they found him.

01:04:30.000 Well, every ranch...

01:04:33.000 Every ranch I've went to, the ranch owner, you know, they're encountering two deaths a year, 15 to 20. Most of the time, they come up to the main headquarters needing water, and when they get to you—or that's been my experience with talking to ranch managers down there— They're very,

01:04:53.000 you know, they're not, I don't think they're there to create any problems.

01:04:57.000 They're just like, hey, you know, we need some water.

01:05:00.000 The vast majority of them are just trying to get a better life.

01:05:03.000 Get a better life.

01:05:04.000 And we would be doing it, too.

01:05:05.000 Could you imagine if you live in a third world country and you had kids and you realize you can get to America and you get a good job and you got to figure out how to do it?

01:05:13.000 Yeah, I would do it.

01:05:14.000 We would all do it.

01:05:15.000 We would all do it.

01:05:16.000 It's just the craziness of not knowing where you're going in South Texas, which is so vast.

01:05:22.000 I mean, I think it's one of those things where people talk about it.

01:05:25.000 It's almost like talking about space.

01:05:27.000 You know, like, oh, the galaxy is 200 million stars or 200 billion stars.

01:05:32.000 It doesn't make sense because it's like it's too big for you to understand.

01:05:35.000 If you had to walk through South Texas, it's South Texas.

01:05:39.000 Texas itself is bigger than like multiple countries in Europe.

01:05:44.000 Yeah.

01:05:44.000 Well, I think, you know, and even imagine before, like, the oil booms and oil rigs and stuff like that.

01:05:49.000 Now they have a little bit of visual lights to walk to.

01:05:53.000 Right, right.

01:05:54.000 I mean, man, I couldn't imagine.

01:05:56.000 Yeah.

01:05:57.000 Just striking out.

01:05:59.000 Just taking a chance.

01:06:00.000 Crossing the Rio Grande.

01:06:01.000 Hoping.

01:06:02.000 Hoping.

01:06:02.000 Or maybe you'd gone with someone who went through it before, and they have a vague memory of what's the best way to get to a creek.

01:06:13.000 I don't know.

01:06:14.000 I mean, you know, we've been there and, you know, the guys, they open box blinds, you know, the deer hunting towers and there's a family sleeping in the box blind.

01:06:23.000 Man, you just got to feel so sorry for them.

01:06:27.000 Yeah, for sure. 0.96

01:06:31.000 15, 16 years old, processing Cubans where it's so bad that you're going to fucking piece together a raft, and you're going to give it a go for Miami. 0.74

01:06:45.000 I remember being 16 going, how bad must that be? 0.94

01:06:48.000 How bad must that be? 0.99

01:06:51.000 Pretty fucking bad. 0.99

01:06:52.000 Pretty fucking bad. 1.00

01:06:53.000 Pretty fucking bad. 0.99

01:06:54.000 Their case is a little different because they're running from a communist dictatorship. 1.00

01:06:58.000 And they were like, that's why the most Republican motherfuckers in this country are Cubans. 1.00

01:07:04.000 Cubans go hard. 1.00

01:07:06.000 They're like, we've seen what all this socialist horseshit comes down to. 0.97

01:07:12.000 And it comes down to government control over every aspect of your life, and they enforce it with violence. 0.96

01:07:17.000 They enforce it with guns.

01:07:19.000 It's not as simple as everybody just gives up whatever they have, and now everybody has an equal amount.

01:07:24.000 That's all nonsense.

01:07:25.000 That's the hook. 1.00

01:07:27.000 But the reality is, the government controls everything, and you are fucked. 1.00

01:07:31.000 And they always live in big-ass houses, and they eat great food, and everybody else is barely getting by. 1.00

01:07:35.000 And it's everywhere.

01:07:36.000 It's from Africa to Cuba to... 0.95

01:07:38.000 The whole African... 1.00

01:07:39.000 Yeah.

01:07:41.000 That whole...

01:07:42.000 Have you ever hunted in Africa?

01:07:43.000 I haven't, but I know I will.

01:07:46.000 I can go on this show and say, man, I'm not one of those guys that's thinking about an elephant or lions and all that.

01:07:54.000 I love to bow hunt, and I like plains animals, your kudos and all that stuff.

01:08:03.000 When my boys get a little older and we can do a proper two-month...

01:08:07.000 Currently, sports and my children have ruined my hunting life.

01:08:12.000 Well, because my boys are going to play all the sports, but when we can get a...

01:08:17.000 I'd love to do them a gap year, and let's go do a true safari.

01:08:21.000 And when I say safari, that doesn't mean I want to go, like, hunt 60 days.

01:08:25.000 I want to do, like, your...

01:08:26.000 I want to see all of the Serengetis and all of the animals and take in the animals for a month and have, like, the wives and the girls and the girlfriends, and we sit out there and do the safaris.

01:08:37.000 But then I want to carve out two or three days where all the boys go...

01:08:40.000 You know, go get the true planes game.

01:08:44.000 Yeah.

01:08:44.000 And I would love...

01:08:46.000 Man, I tell you, it's a pretty cool story.

01:08:49.000 My pilot, my lead pilot is South African.

01:08:53.000 And during COVID, man, he couldn't...

01:08:56.000 His mother was dying, and he couldn't get down there to tell his mother bye.

01:09:01.000 And at this point, I just kind of got to know AJ. And, man...

01:09:08.000 I've always heard that South Africans are pretty badass dudes.

01:09:12.000 And at the time, I was learning that A.J. is a pretty badass dude.

01:09:17.000 I didn't all together know it, but...

01:09:18.000 Well, he got with me and he goes, Luke, man, it's still...

01:09:24.000 I cannot get into South Africa.

01:09:26.000 It may have been his mother or his wife's mother, but I called some local guys, some local Congress guys in Tennessee, and they granted him permission.

01:09:36.000 To get down there, and they got to tell either his wife's mother, well, he comes back and he's like, Luke, I now owe you a Cape Buffalo.

01:09:47.000 Ha ha ha!

01:09:48.000 And I was like, what?

01:09:50.000 He goes, my family has a big ranch.

01:09:53.000 We're overrun with Cape Buffalo, and you now have one of my Cape Buffalo.

01:09:59.000 So, dude, he is going to fly me down there, and I'm like, and that's just kind of the way he's wired, but, you know, he's going to help us with some safari stuff.

01:10:08.000 Don't they call them the Black Death?

01:10:09.000 Yeah, now they are bad.

01:10:11.000 Yeah, you don't just go running up to them.

01:10:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:15.000 Like with your, not your shit together. 1.00

01:10:17.000 That's a big animal. 1.00

01:10:19.000 That's like an 1800 pound animal, right?

01:10:22.000 Maybe bigger.

01:10:23.000 And like...

01:10:25.000 All muscle.

01:10:27.000 So Cam and Adam Greentree, they went up to Australia.

01:10:32.000 You know, Australia has like an infestation of Asian buffalo.

01:10:35.000 They have, I forget which type of buffalo it is, but invasive.

01:10:40.000 So someone introduced it, like all the animals in Australia, a lot of the mammals were introduced and they have no natural predators.

01:10:45.000 So they have these buffalo up there everywhere.

01:10:48.000 Cam said he shot one, and they went up there with no food, and they went up there to live off the land. 1.00

01:10:55.000 They're drinking out of fucking crocodile lakes, like literally bathing in that shit, filtering water, eating whatever fish they caught. 1.00

01:11:04.000 It's Cam's new version of pushing himself. 1.00

01:11:07.000 I think it was Adam's idea. 0.98

01:11:09.000 He's a psycho, too. 0.93

01:11:11.000 So the both of them are perfect together. 0.98

01:11:13.000 So he said he had one piece of buffalo in his mouth for a half an hour just chewing on it.

01:11:17.000 He said that's how tough they are.

01:11:19.000 He said it took forever to eat that thing.

01:11:25.000 The true form of, like, yeah, no, that's even a whole other level of true organics when it takes you, you know, when your jerky's jerky right out of the, you know, right in the field.

01:11:37.000 Yeah, well, there's no dry-aged buffalo out there.

01:11:40.000 Did you say I was a taste of it?

01:11:43.000 I mean...

01:11:44.000 Because most plains animals in Africa, historically, they say are far beyond our plains animals as far as the meat.

01:11:55.000 Like your kudos and your...

01:11:57.000 I mean, I'm drawing a blank on all the plains games.

01:12:00.000 And like I said, this is stuff that I'm like...

01:12:03.000 Totally elementary in, because I just don't know much about that whole African thing.

01:12:08.000 It seems like the things that the big cats want to eat are all delicious.

01:12:12.000 Right, yeah.

01:12:13.000 Like I shot a Neil guy a couple years ago, and tigers eat them.

01:12:18.000 Right.

01:12:18.000 Did you ever eat the Neil guy?

01:12:19.000 Yeah, it's delicious.

01:12:20.000 And the meat is like an even more vivid red color to it than even our elk and stuff.

01:12:30.000 Well, it's all delicious.

01:12:32.000 My favorite is still elk, but another one is axis deer.

01:12:35.000 They get hunted by tigers, and they're some of the best tasting animals alive.

01:12:40.000 Axis deer are delicious.

01:12:42.000 I think cats are smart, just like bears are smart, too.

01:12:46.000 Salmon's delicious.

01:12:47.000 I'd sit there and pick them off.

01:12:48.000 They know what they're doing. 0.96

01:12:50.000 Well, have you done Africa?

01:12:51.000 Are you going to do it?

01:12:52.000 I would like to.

01:12:53.000 I'd like to go over to Africa just to see it.

01:12:55.000 So you really got it.

01:12:56.000 Cam, was he kind of your catalyst?

01:12:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:59.000 And God, I mean, it's like you had Michael Jordan teaching you how to play basketball.

01:13:04.000 Yeah, Michael Jordan teaching you how to shoot free throws.

01:13:07.000 It's so fun, though.

01:13:10.000 I tell you, man, I dove hard into duck hunting, and you talk about learning to blow a duck call.

01:13:19.000 And when you think you know how to blow a duck call, and you get next to somebody that blows a duck call, and you blow yours, and the room starts laughing at you, like ridicule, like, take your duck call off.

01:13:34.000 And put it in your bedroom and leave it when we go hunting. 0.99

01:13:37.000 And I'm like, dude, I've been working on this fucking thing for four years! 0.99

01:13:41.000 And they're like... 0.99

01:13:42.000 And it's so funny, but...

01:13:44.000 It's like elk bugles.

01:13:45.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:13:45.000 Like someone who sucks at bugling. 0.96

01:13:47.000 Like you hear them, you're like, what the fuck was that? 1.00

01:13:50.000 I mean, it's like you walking in with a tutu on. 0.99

01:13:53.000 Yeah.

01:13:56.000 I love duck hunting, too.

01:13:58.000 I've never done it, but I love the idea of it because you're sneaking.

01:14:00.000 You're hiding.

01:14:01.000 You got fake ducks.

01:14:02.000 You got the whole deal.

01:14:03.000 Some people have ducks that even have flopping wings.

01:14:07.000 Listen, man, let me tell you something.

01:14:09.000 Dude, I got given a chocolate lab about eight years ago. 0.97

01:14:16.000 And here comes this wormy-ass chocolate lab into my home, you know, scrawny. 1.00

01:14:23.000 And since then, oh my God, that damn animal has thrust me into duck hunting just so I could take him duck hunting. 0.99

01:14:31.000 And man, it is... 0.99

01:14:33.000 That sounds like the same excuse you used with your kids.

01:14:35.000 Right, my kid, yeah.

01:14:36.000 I have to go for the dog!

01:14:37.000 Yeah, for the dog.

01:14:38.000 The dog needs some duck hunting in its life.

01:14:40.000 But man, and my wife is... 1.00

01:14:41.000 This dog, man...

01:14:44.000 This dog can open every drawer in our house.

01:14:48.000 He can open Frito-Lays with his...

01:14:51.000 He can smack Frito-Lays open and eat them.

01:14:55.000 He's pushed a porcelain pound cake, a pound cake on a porcelain island off onto the floor, ate the pound cake and the porcelain dish, and Like, x-ray,

01:15:10.000 100 shards of porcelain in his stomach. 0.99

01:15:13.000 The vet's like, put that fucker out in the yard, and if he makes it, if he lives, call me back. 0.99

01:15:20.000 He lived, and now I have duck hunting properties, and my boy, you know, we're in the house blowing duck calls. 0.99

01:15:26.000 My wife's like, you know, I mean, my wife's like, four boys in the house, all of them blowing duck calls.

01:15:33.000 She's like, man, one day, yeah.

01:15:36.000 So do you have one of them setups where you're hiding in one of those shacks that's underground?

01:15:41.000 We have elevated blinds that are brushed in and some brush, and then we have pit blinds that are, you know, when you get down in a pit blind...

01:15:50.000 And then you lift it up?

01:15:50.000 Yeah, you're right along the water level.

01:15:52.000 And then...

01:15:54.000 You know, there's experiences where you wade in the woods, and they come down in the woods, and man, it's just...

01:16:02.000 The thing that really makes duck hunting kind of like when you're in a blind with your...

01:16:10.000 Let's just say you got your buddies from way back, and there's five of you, and you're sitting there smoking cigars, and you're in the blind together, and it's very social, too.

01:16:21.000 Drinking coffee, it's... 0.96

01:16:23.000 You know, 15 degrees, coffee, cigar, you know, and everybody's like, shh, shh, shh, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, and you work the ducks, they light in front of you, kill them, the dog gets them, brings the duck back, you look at the duck, and you're just like... 1.00

01:16:39.000 Just have a big ol' toke on your cigar, and you're like, yep, this is pretty good shit right here. 1.00

01:16:44.000 Are you good at cooking them? 0.99

01:16:45.000 Yeah, man.

01:16:46.000 You know, the thing about it, when you do, you know, your grain ducks, your ducks that feed on your rice and your corn.

01:16:54.000 You know, like a diver duck that eats essentially minnows.

01:16:58.000 Yeah, you don't want to eat that.

01:17:01.000 And geese.

01:17:03.000 You find somebody that can cook a goose.

01:17:06.000 You know the story about how to cook a goose?

01:17:08.000 No.

01:17:09.000 Well, you get a big pot and you put a bunch of water and then you put a concrete cinder block in there and you boil the goose and you pull the goose out and eat the cinder block.

01:17:21.000 But some people can make a speckled goose.

01:17:29.000 Speckled bellies are good.

01:17:31.000 But like a mallard and a wood duck, oh man, a wood duck with jalapeno and cheese and bacon wrap, which nothing's bad when you do that.

01:17:39.000 My friend Jesse Griffiths, he runs this restaurant out here called Dai Due.

01:17:43.000 Is it?

01:17:44.000 It's fantastic.

01:17:45.000 And he serves a lot of wild game.

01:17:47.000 And Jesse came on this hunt with us with Steve Rinello down in South Texas.

01:17:51.000 And Jesse cooked some diver duck.

01:17:53.000 Was it good?

01:17:54.000 It was fantastic.

01:17:56.000 Whoever the hell Jesse is.

01:17:57.000 He's a wizard.

01:17:59.000 Well, that's great.

01:18:00.000 He's a real chef.

01:18:02.000 So Ryan Seacrest, he's like, hey, man.

01:18:05.000 Ryan Seacrest, the radio guy?

01:18:07.000 My guy, yeah, at American Idol.

01:18:10.000 And Seacrest goes, hey, I've got a...

01:18:14.000 You need a light?

01:18:15.000 Yeah.

01:18:15.000 He goes, dude, I booked this at EMP, 11 Madison Park.

01:18:19.000 Number one, at the time, number one restaurant in downtown.

01:18:24.000 You know, Adam was...

01:18:27.000 Ryan was taking me and Katie and Lionel to dinner, and I've never been to certainly the number one restaurant in the world.

01:18:34.000 They take us a tour of the kitchen, and dude, they have ducks, walls, because all of your French cuisine, really the centerpiece is duck.

01:18:46.000 That's like the...

01:18:47.000 Duck fat.

01:18:48.000 The ducks are the real big part of French cuisine.

01:18:54.000 Well, dude, I see these...

01:18:56.000 I see all these ducks and I'm like, what are y'all doing here?

01:18:59.000 He goes, man, we're aging them.

01:19:01.000 So they get these.

01:19:02.000 Now they're getting probably there.

01:19:05.000 They're getting farm-raised, organically grown ducks and they age them with the guts in them.

01:19:11.000 Yeah, I've heard of that.

01:19:12.000 I've heard people do that with pheasants, too.

01:19:15.000 You hang them by their neck.

01:19:16.000 The enzymes of the guts pull stuff out of the meat.

01:19:22.000 Well, it adds a flavor to it, apparently.

01:19:25.000 But it sketches me out.

01:19:28.000 Well, here's the tricky part, because...

01:19:31.000 Dude, I don't even know if I enjoyed my meal because I picked the chef's brain because I wanted to figure out a way to take my mallards and all my ducks I killed and age them properly.

01:19:42.000 But what you do got to worry about is when you shoot them, you know, you're shooting, the guts are going through kind of in the meat a little bit. 0.86

01:19:51.000 If you shoot them. 0.99

01:19:53.000 Right. 1.00

01:19:53.000 That's different than an organic one. 1.00

01:19:54.000 You know, I haven't got that good where I all headshot them yet, but...

01:19:57.000 No, when these guys are aging them, what's the temperature in the room?

01:20:01.000 I think it's just above...

01:20:04.000 They're not freezing them.

01:20:06.000 I think it's however you would dry age a cow.

01:20:09.000 So like 40 degrees?

01:20:10.000 Probably 40 degrees and 13, 15 days with the guts in them.

01:20:14.000 Wow.

01:20:15.000 15 days with the guts in them.

01:20:17.000 I've heard that people hang their pheasants until their heads fall off.

01:20:22.000 And that's when they cut them up.

01:20:26.000 Who figured that out? 0.99

01:20:28.000 Who was the bold bastard that took that 15 days? 0.98

01:20:31.000 It's the guy that ate the first oyster, right? 0.99

01:20:33.000 The guy who drank out of the puddle.

01:20:35.000 Right.

01:20:35.000 Yeah, and it is fascinating in pheasant.

01:20:38.000 And when you look at pheasant and quail and chuckers and Hungarian partridge now, you're talking about the end all of wild game.

01:20:48.000 In my opinion, the top of the...

01:20:50.000 That's what you like the most?

01:20:51.000 Well, I think when you look at the pheasants, you know, they call them prairie chickens, and they're beautiful.

01:20:56.000 The meat's a little whiter and less gamey.

01:20:59.000 Have you had sandhill crane?

01:21:01.000 Yes, rib eye of the sky.

01:21:02.000 I haven't, but it's crazy to look at it.

01:21:04.000 It does look like steak.

01:21:06.000 It's a red meat, a deep red meat, and it's a bird.

01:21:10.000 And, you know, they're wild little creatures, too, man.

01:21:15.000 You know, when you take your lab sandhill crane hunting, you've got to fit them with goggles.

01:21:20.000 Because they poke her eyes out? 0.99

01:21:21.000 Yeah.

01:21:22.000 Whoa.

01:21:23.000 And then, I just got in a golf course property down in Florida.

01:21:30.000 And we sold our beach house, and then we're kind of migrating to this place.

01:21:34.000 And I fly down to the tour of the property, and I'm like, dude...

01:21:39.000 What are y'all doing with all these sandhill cranes?

01:21:42.000 And they're like, what do you mean?

01:21:43.000 It's like a golf course guy.

01:21:45.000 And I said, dude, that's the rib eye of the sky, bro.

01:21:48.000 He's like, he looked it up and you can't shoot sandhill cranes in Florida.

01:21:52.000 What?

01:21:53.000 Somebody call the governor. 0.82

01:21:55.000 Everywhere.

01:21:56.000 Really?

01:21:57.000 Everywhere on this property.

01:21:58.000 You can't shoot sandhill cranes in Florida, but you can shoot alligators?

01:22:03.000 Unless they're lying to me because they're scared I'm going to have a psychotic episode and go running out through the golf course with the guns.

01:22:13.000 Maybe it's just the area where you're at.

01:22:15.000 You couldn't shoot sandhill cranes.

01:22:16.000 They may be protected in certain counties.

01:22:18.000 But, you know, even in Tennessee, Florida Center is protected under the federal...

01:22:22.000 They're protected under Federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act. 1.00

01:22:25.000 Look at that shit. 1.00

01:22:26.000 Wow. 1.00

01:22:27.000 State rule, blah, blah, blah.

01:22:28.000 Intentional feeding of sandhill cranes is prohibited.

01:22:32.000 So you can't hunt them.

01:22:33.000 Well, in Tennessee, there's a couple guys that guide them, and I think it's a draw tag.

01:22:42.000 You can put in to draw a sandhill crane tag, and then, man, they make a very distinct...

01:22:53.000 Something like that.

01:22:55.000 And, dude, you can hear them, and I'll hear them coming over my farm.

01:22:58.000 And, God, if that's the wrong noise I just made, I'm going to get...

01:23:02.000 Sounds good.

01:23:03.000 I'm going to...

01:23:04.000 You got it?

01:23:09.000 Whoa.

01:23:12.000 I love this guy.

01:23:13.000 I need me one of...

01:23:14.000 That's them.

01:23:16.000 Wow.

01:23:17.000 Look at all of them.

01:23:18.000 Yeah, that's...

01:23:19.000 You hear that?

01:23:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:23:22.000 What a fucking cool animal. 1.00

01:23:24.000 They sound like something from Avatar. 1.00

01:23:26.000 See those beaks?

01:23:28.000 Yeah.

01:23:29.000 Those are Labrador retriever blinders right there.

01:23:33.000 How do you fasten the goggles on a dog?

01:23:36.000 Man, oh God, here he goes.

01:23:41.000 Oh my gosh, this is like the great Sandhill Crane goggles for labs.

01:23:46.000 This is going to be great.

01:23:49.000 How does it secure on?

01:23:50.000 I'm thinking about a dog's face.

01:23:52.000 I guess you've seen those dogs in those side cars on the motorcycles.

01:23:58.000 Probably that rig.

01:24:04.000 I don't think that's the same.

01:24:06.000 Yeah, that's like an Aspen. 0.98

01:24:08.000 That's two dogs being silly.

01:24:10.000 Yeah, so in Tennessee, you can hire a guy, and he'll take you, and they'll kind of get them coming into an area, and I think you can. 0.62

01:24:19.000 There you go.

01:24:20.000 Oh, there it goes.

01:24:21.000 There you go.

01:24:21.000 Oh, wow.

01:24:22.000 That's crazy.

01:24:23.000 Now, those look like, I think those are snow geese.

01:24:26.000 Snow geese are probably the same.

01:24:28.000 Look at their goggles all scratched up, too.

01:24:30.000 Yeah.

01:24:31.000 No, those are Sandhills.

01:24:33.000 Wow, that's crazy.

01:24:35.000 Dogs need to have their eyes protected.

01:24:38.000 Yeah, so when you get...

01:24:40.000 Yeah, well, you've got your golden, but man, if you get your lab, oh man, beware of that, because you will get hooked.

01:24:48.000 Oh, I'm sure I would be.

01:24:50.000 Also, I love duck.

01:24:51.000 Duck's delicious.

01:24:52.000 Oh, on the grill, marinate it properly for...

01:24:56.000 A day or two playing on it.

01:24:58.000 That's what Jesse does.

01:24:59.000 That's the difference.

01:24:59.000 You've got to plan on it.

01:25:00.000 That's why he does the diver duck.

01:25:02.000 I'm telling you, this diver duck was sensational.

01:25:04.000 And that's what you've got to watch in all wild game is, man, plan it.

01:25:09.000 Preparation.

01:25:10.000 Get it marinated and, man, you just can't beat it.

01:25:14.000 Yeah, you've got to know what you're cooking, how to cook it, especially if you're cooking something that has low body fat.

01:25:19.000 You've got to make sure you cook it nice and slow.

01:25:23.000 That's one of the great things about things like a Traeger.

01:25:25.000 You can just set it for $2.65.

01:25:29.000 Best thing in the world.

01:25:29.000 Leave it.

01:25:30.000 The new one's fantastic, too.

01:25:32.000 Everything comes out so smoky and delicious.

01:25:35.000 Man, my dad, 4th of July...

01:25:39.000 I think he was drunk and hated us on 4th of July because he stayed up smoking the Boston Bud every night.

01:25:45.000 You know, I remember my dad, man. 0.99

01:25:47.000 He'd have that old charbroil out there, and he'd get up with his vinegar and all this shit, and he would wake up all night, night before the 4th, and smoke them butts, man. 0.58

01:25:57.000 But now you just walk out, put that thing on 220 at about 8 p.m., wake up at 8 a.m., The app tells you if you're low on pellets. 0.92

01:26:06.000 I know!

01:26:06.000 It's like, what are we doing here?

01:26:08.000 It's crazy.

01:26:08.000 It's so much easier.

01:26:10.000 There's something that men are attracted to, like, cooking over wood, though.

01:26:13.000 Like, an actual fire, charcoal, and wood.

01:26:15.000 Well, and we're in the heart of it in Texas, you know, right here. 0.99

01:26:18.000 I mean, these guys take a damn... 0.99

01:26:21.000 Propane tanks. 0.99

01:26:23.000 They glue four propane tanks together and...

01:26:26.000 Have a smokestack.

01:26:27.000 And the guy that...

01:26:28.000 What's our guy that does our charity event?

01:26:30.000 Oh my God, I can't believe I'm...

01:26:33.000 I'll come up with him, but...

01:26:34.000 Mark, text me Meat Church.

01:26:38.000 Have you met the Meat Church dude? 0.97

01:26:39.000 Oh yeah, I've met that dude, yeah.

01:26:40.000 Yeah, yeah, he comes and...

01:26:41.000 He's got some awesome rubs.

01:26:42.000 He's got all that, but then what's funny is...

01:26:45.000 Yeah, he pulled up to our charity event with this big smoker.

01:26:48.000 And man, I'm like...

01:26:49.000 This is like Elon Musk...

01:26:53.000 Style engineering on this thing.

01:26:55.000 It's pretty, you know, and man, you know, they get out there and, yeah, they'll look at me and you doing Traegers and we're, that's about like us, that's our version of having a tutu on.

01:27:05.000 It is funny, because people want to do it all themselves.

01:27:08.000 The offset smokers.

01:27:10.000 Like, have you ever gone to Terry Black's here and see the lines of the offset smokers?

01:27:14.000 Terry Black's is the number one barbecue place in the country, probably in the world.

01:27:18.000 They cook more volume of barbecue than anywhere else on the country.

01:27:22.000 And they have just line after line of these giant propane tank smokers with briskets and beef ribs and spare ribs.

01:27:32.000 When I moved to Nashville, being a South Georgia boy, I'd never even heard of brisket.

01:27:37.000 Really?

01:27:38.000 We only knew pork barbecue. 0.51

01:27:43.000 So when I moved to Nashville, and then there's some dude there with a Texas brisket restaurant in Nashville, I'm like, what are they talking about brisket?

01:27:52.000 And this was 2001 I moved to Nashville.

01:27:54.000 This is how insulated you could be in your own...

01:27:58.000 You know, as we talk about the ways of the world changing, I mean, it's like, dude, I lived in a section, and everybody, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, they didn't, brisket was like...

01:28:09.000 I think brisket was originally a German thing.

01:28:13.000 I think it was like with the sausages, like there was cuts of the meat.

01:28:17.000 Well, the smoker thing came certainly from German immigrants that came to Texas.

01:28:22.000 That's where the origin of the barbecue out here is.

01:28:24.000 And then the brisket was like cuts that nobody else wanted.

01:28:28.000 Right.

01:28:29.000 So they figured out a way to take these cuts that nobody else wanted and turn them into something delicious.

01:28:35.000 They just had to do it over time, and now it's like a preferred cut.

01:28:38.000 You know, if you go to Terry Black's, the brisket's sensational.

01:28:41.000 And they're probably cooking, yeah, the preferred cuts of, like, which cut of the brisket would you like, not the old...

01:28:49.000 Flank meat down there, you know, you can probably get the ribeye and all that.

01:28:53.000 I think it's all just how long you cook it for.

01:28:54.000 How you do it, what temperature.

01:28:57.000 And they wrap it, and then they unwrap it, and they spray it.

01:29:00.000 Like, they have it down to a science.

01:29:02.000 And then at the end, it's like, the key is you want to be able to fold it over your finger and not have it break apart.

01:29:07.000 Just get it to just where it folds over. 0.88

01:29:10.000 See, our deal was just always smoke a big pig, you know, smoke a pig, you know.

01:29:16.000 You know, not the one as big as this table, but, you know, about that long.

01:29:20.000 100-pounder.

01:29:21.000 Yeah.

01:29:21.000 And walk up there on the family reunion, and all the women were grossed out, because, you know, you're just pulling the big pig, you know, the big, you know, you can pull that meat off a pig, it's like that, so...

01:29:33.000 We're getting hungry, Joe.

01:29:35.000 I know.

01:29:36.000 That's the good thing about wild pigs, too.

01:29:39.000 They're always available to hunt.

01:29:41.000 One of the great things about Texas...

01:29:43.000 It's not good if you're on a ranch or if you have a farm, but if you're a person who wants to hunt, you can hunt wild pigs 365 days a year and always have sausage.

01:29:51.000 Our place, me and my best friend, we've got a quail hunting place down in the heart of South Georgia.

01:29:58.000 A ton of swamps.

01:30:00.000 Dude, we were...

01:30:03.000 Which you know all the math, and I'm sure you've brought it up on how many sow pigs, you know, they'll kick off 30 pigs a year annually.

01:30:14.000 They can, yeah.

01:30:15.000 And then we would have them roll through our front yard $30,000 damage a night.

01:30:22.000 Yeah.

01:30:23.000 And for anybody out there listening, if you have this going on, we mounted lights in all the trees around our whole lodge.

01:30:33.000 And you flip them lights on, and we haven't had one wild hog root up our yard since.

01:30:39.000 Really?

01:30:39.000 They will not come around those lights.

01:30:42.000 It's a great tactic.

01:30:43.000 That's interesting.

01:30:44.000 Yeah, and when somebody told him, you know, some good old boy told him, and he was like, man, we'll try anything, because...

01:30:51.000 You would walk out there and it looked like 300 landmines went off.

01:30:57.000 And the night before, our yard looked like Augusta.

01:31:00.000 Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it?

01:31:02.000 I mean, they're bad little dudes now.

01:31:05.000 They do a lot of damage.

01:31:06.000 I mean, in Texas alone, it's millions and millions of dollars of damage of crops every year.

01:31:10.000 They shoot them out of helicopters here.

01:31:13.000 You ever done any of that?

01:31:15.000 Have you?

01:31:16.000 It is...

01:31:20.000 Man, it is.

01:31:21.000 It's the most unfair type of hunting that's ever existed.

01:31:25.000 Man, if, you know, I don't know, you know, my children, I took my boys.

01:31:32.000 And somewhere there's a, you know, I hope he doesn't hear, but there's a Navy SEAL Marine recruiter, because my sons are ready for warfare after doing that.

01:31:42.000 I'm like...

01:31:43.000 But, you know, the guy that we took, you know, he's got a big, beautiful high fence, and, you know, if you fly around him, man, you can, you know, he has to thin him out every year.

01:31:53.000 Yeah, you have to.

01:31:53.000 But it's so fun doing it out of a helicopter, you don't want to thin them all out, because you keep wanting to, you know, you keep wanting to do it a little bit, but...

01:32:01.000 But you haven't done that yet?

01:32:03.000 No.

01:32:04.000 No.

01:32:04.000 I'm still...

01:32:05.000 I just mostly bow hunt them.

01:32:10.000 Well, you know, our pig stuff in Georgia, man, it's fun because you can go on a deer hunt, shoot some deer with a bow, and then we'll take a rifle and late in the evening the hogs will come out. 0.58

01:32:26.000 I know a lot of guys shoot them at nighttime, too.

01:32:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:29.000 Like thermals.

01:32:30.000 We have guys with the big trap doors that trap them and stuff like that.

01:32:36.000 Yeah.

01:32:37.000 I mean, they're probably the number one, you know, wildlife.

01:32:43.000 I never will forget, you know, right when, like, maybe iPhones come out and you get your iPhone news updates, and then I never even knew what the magazine, like, The New Yorker was, or, like, The Guardian and all those things.

01:32:55.000 Well, The New Yorker, I'm scrolling through, and I see feral pigs, and it was this huge article done by a guy.

01:33:02.000 Maybe the editor of The New Yorker.

01:33:05.000 Man, he did a great job with that article and just went through...

01:33:08.000 And this was 15 years ago I read that article about the feral hog problems.

01:33:15.000 And you would think...

01:33:17.000 I don't know.

01:33:18.000 I would think The New Yorker leans quite left.

01:33:23.000 But the fact that this guy wrote the article from a perspective of...

01:33:28.000 Huge problem, need to be dealt with, was a pretty badass take on it.

01:33:34.000 Well, once people see the sheer numbers, they're so overwhelming that you go, wait a minute, how...

01:33:41.000 How are you going to stop this?

01:33:43.000 How are you going to stop it from multiplying continually every year?

01:33:45.000 Well, you're not.

01:33:46.000 You're not.

01:33:48.000 There's places that you're not going to get to.

01:33:49.000 There's too many of them.

01:33:50.000 In Georgia and these swampy deals, you can't helicopter them there.

01:33:56.000 So that's when you get these old boys with their dogs and they run off in the...

01:34:02.000 That'll help.

01:34:04.000 But even then...

01:34:05.000 Here's another thing.

01:34:06.000 You think about this.

01:34:07.000 So when I start my high fence, the year that I started it, our turkey population in Tennessee, which it's been going through hell, and you'll hear this, The turkey population in Tennessee was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen.

01:34:27.000 I mean, eastern turkey hunting, one of the most beautiful things in the wildlife that the state of Tennessee has.

01:34:35.000 And my turkey population is amazing and still is, but we hired a guy and he put 110 traps out.

01:34:43.000 110. And night one had over 100 varmints.

01:34:51.000 Coons, possums, armadillos in the traps night one.

01:34:54.000 So they're just killing all the turkeys.

01:34:56.000 They eat the eggs.

01:34:57.000 Yeah.

01:34:58.000 You know, a turkey lays 12...

01:35:04.000 I found this out this year.

01:35:07.000 If I can get a couple nuggets that you haven't learned yet, that's kind of the goal for the day.

01:35:14.000 Turkey does not lay their eggs all at the same time.

01:35:18.000 Really?

01:35:19.000 They lay their eggs one day at a time.

01:35:22.000 They lay it next to a water source.

01:35:26.000 They go to the water source, hold the water in their mouth, Drip the water on the eggs periodically, using the water to hatch them at the same time.

01:35:39.000 Because a hen turkey, if she had to hatch, all the eggs hatch at the same time. 0.90

01:35:46.000 But if she had to hatch them for 12 days, she could never keep them corralled properly.

01:35:53.000 Oh.

01:35:54.000 So she manipulates with water. 0.99

01:35:57.000 And if I'm wrong...

01:35:59.000 Now, this is a biologist that told me this.

01:36:00.000 I heard this this year.

01:36:02.000 Totally blew my mind.

01:36:04.000 So in the nest, and I've walked up on them, they got 12 or 13 of them sitting there beautifully.

01:36:09.000 And whatever that hen does, she manages those eggs to hatch at the same time. 1.00

01:36:14.000 Wow.

01:36:15.000 And maybe...

01:36:16.000 Now, like a tortoise, I guess, or a beach turtle or whatever.

01:36:21.000 You know, I think they...

01:36:23.000 They spit them all out that night, but a hen turkey does not.

01:36:27.000 So one armadillo rolls by that nest.

01:36:31.000 That's a wrap.

01:36:32.000 That's a wrap.

01:36:33.000 She just lost them all.

01:36:35.000 So there was a big study that went on in Tennessee about the decline of the turkey population.

01:36:42.000 So what do they do about that?

01:36:44.000 They try to hunt environments?

01:36:46.000 Well, first of all, trapping now is so rare.

01:36:51.000 The art of trapping has gone down quite a bit.

01:36:56.000 Oh, and I'm not even bringing up coyotes in Tennessee.

01:37:01.000 So, yeah, if they can loosen up, Tennessee can loosen up their trapping laws and make it more available, and you just got to thin out those...

01:37:11.000 You know, armadillos in Tennessee, you would have never...

01:37:15.000 Man, we woke up, and we can ride around and shoot 30 a night.

01:37:21.000 Really?

01:37:22.000 Armadillos.

01:37:23.000 30. Don't they carry like crazy plague diseases?

01:37:27.000 Man, I wouldn't recommend touching them, you know.

01:37:29.000 They say they do, but that's...

01:37:34.000 People eat them?

01:37:35.000 I've never heard of that, but you probably can find somebody.

01:37:37.000 They definitely eat raccoons. 0.99

01:37:38.000 They definitely eat raccoons, and definitely, I don't know about possums, but if you're eating a possum, your ass is hungry. 0.99

01:37:47.000 You're very hungry. 0.98

01:37:48.000 But raccoons, I mean, in Georgia where we grew up, had several old-timers, man. 0.79

01:37:54.000 They'd get them a coon, and it was always kind of a party deal. 0.99

01:37:59.000 What does raccoon taste like?

01:38:00.000 I never had.

01:38:01.000 Well, we got an old buddy down there.

01:38:03.000 He's like, you know what bald eagle tastes like?

01:38:06.000 Owl.

01:38:09.000 So I guess you could say, Racky, you know, I had a buddy of mine tell a game warden that joke.

01:38:13.000 It didn't go over well. 0.99

01:38:16.000 There's a lot of shit that people eat that people would go, what? 1.00

01:38:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:20.000 I mean, when you're talking about...

01:38:22.000 I saw somebody do the pig deal with a full gator.

01:38:27.000 Oh, I've seen that before.

01:38:28.000 And I hadn't done that.

01:38:29.000 I've had gator tail, but I hadn't had...

01:38:30.000 Yeah, they'll take a giant smoker and put a gator in there. 1.00

01:38:32.000 Put the whole thing on there.

01:38:33.000 Yeah.

01:38:33.000 And they skin it and all that.

01:38:35.000 Put an apple in its mouth.

01:38:37.000 Yeah.

01:38:38.000 You know what's crazy in Georgia?

01:38:40.000 There's a place, rural...

01:38:43.000 So all the chicken farms down there, huge chicken farms, all of them.

01:38:48.000 Well, what do you do with the chicken carcasses?

01:38:50.000 Well, I mean, there's a lot.

01:38:51.000 They used to grind them up and feed them back to chickens, but some of them would get... 0.66

01:38:54.000 Well, they feed them to gator farms.

01:38:57.000 Oh, wow.

01:38:57.000 They put them in a limb shredder.

01:39:04.000 Oh, wow.

01:39:04.000 Now, you talk about the most foul smell on the planet.

01:39:09.000 Go into a Gator Farm warehouse.

01:39:12.000 Joe.

01:39:14.000 Buddy.

01:39:15.000 Just rot.

01:39:17.000 Nothing can replicate.

01:39:19.000 Maybe the Sir Strauman Challenge can replicate, you know, the whole Sir Strauman joke thing.

01:39:25.000 What's that?

01:39:25.000 You've seen where the guys pop the lid on the Swedish fish?

01:39:30.000 No.

01:39:31.000 Oh, Joe!

01:39:32.000 Sir Strauman?

01:39:34.000 What is it?

01:39:36.000 Oh, we did it at our deer camp.

01:39:38.000 It's like an aged, sweetest fish that's rotten in a can.

01:39:42.000 It's aged?

01:39:43.000 For years.

01:39:44.000 Like a sardine.

01:39:46.000 And so, yeah, the Sostramon Challenge.

01:39:48.000 Look at this guy's face.

01:39:53.000 Dude, we popped that thing.

01:39:55.000 So people fish with them?

01:39:56.000 They use it for bait, like for catfish or something?

01:39:58.000 Look, people eat that.

01:40:00.000 Oh, foul.

01:40:02.000 And if you can stay in the room with it...

01:40:05.000 Have you tried it?

01:40:06.000 No, I was outside 15 yards from it, throwing up in the flower bed.

01:40:12.000 Alright, we've got to order some, Jamie.

01:40:15.000 Order some.

01:40:16.000 I'm glad I didn't get you...

01:40:18.000 Might eat it on Fight Companion.

01:40:20.000 Well, Denver's on the verge of passing a no-fur law. 1.00

01:40:25.000 So if Denver passes a no-fur law, what are they going to do about cowboy hats that have beaver skin lining?

01:40:31.000 And then if you're going to say no fur, how are you going to say no fur but you're allowing leather?

01:40:37.000 So skin is okay as long as you take the furry part off.

01:40:41.000 Is the furry part what's offensive? 0.94

01:40:44.000 You know what you'd fucking, the chaos that would ensue if you outlawed leather?

01:40:51.000 Everybody's belt is illegal. 0.89

01:40:52.000 Everybody's shoes are illegal.

01:40:53.000 Air Jordans are illegal.

01:40:55.000 And they're calling it illegal.

01:40:56.000 Illegal.

01:40:57.000 Yeah, they're trying to pass a law.

01:40:58.000 They're trying to pass a law where they ban fur.

01:41:01.000 Sorry.

01:41:02.000 They've done it before.

01:41:03.000 I mean, they've done it in other places.

01:41:05.000 But where does it, like I said, where does it, Joe, I'm at with America.

01:41:08.000 It just keeps going.

01:41:09.000 That's the problem.

01:41:10.000 When I'm an American idol. 0.99

01:41:10.000 It never fucking ends. 0.99

01:41:11.000 When I'm an American idol. 0.98

01:41:12.000 No.

01:41:12.000 It never ends.

01:41:13.000 It's never going to end.

01:41:14.000 They're going to keep pushing.

01:41:15.000 It'll get to you can't eat meat.

01:41:17.000 It'll get to it has to be lab-grown meat.

01:41:20.000 It could get as crazy as you could ever imagine there's animal rights people that would like to push in that direction.

01:41:26.000 And you would have never thought this would be possible, but you would have never thought that you would have biological males competing against females in high school sports.

01:41:35.000 And that's everywhere.

01:41:36.000 And if you complain against that, you're a bigot. 0.94

01:41:38.000 You're seeing the craziest of crazy thinking.

01:41:41.000 There's people that think the pedophiles are minor-attracted persons, and they'll talk about this as university professors teaching classes.

01:41:50.000 It's been recorded.

01:41:51.000 People have seen it. 0.98

01:41:52.000 It's not everywhere, but it's enough where you go, I see where this goes if it keeps going, because none of this shit existed 20 years ago. 0.99

01:42:00.000 You go back to 2004, there was none of this shit. 0.99

01:42:02.000 Nothing. 0.99

01:42:03.000 A transgender person was a rare person with gender dysphoria.

01:42:07.000 It was very rare, and there wasn't a lot of hatred towards those people.

01:42:10.000 It wasn't a thing that people worried about. 0.99

01:42:12.000 Now there is, because everybody's like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:42:14.000 Why is this in schools? 0.99

01:42:15.000 Why are you having them?

01:42:17.000 There was a recent pool tournament where it was a women's pool tournament, and in the semifinals, it's two trans women competing against each other.

01:42:25.000 Two men, two biological men that wear lipstick, competing against each other in a women's tournament. 0.99

01:42:31.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.99

01:42:32.000 So I would have never thought that would be possible. 0.99

01:42:34.000 So it can get to a point where there's no meat.

01:42:37.000 It can get to the point where meat, there's this demonization of meat. 0.82

01:42:40.000 You keep hearing about it all the time.

01:42:42.000 Meat is the number one source of carbon. 1.00

01:42:45.000 It's fucking complete total horse shit. 1.00

01:42:47.000 It's not even number two. 1.00

01:42:48.000 It's not number three. 0.82

01:42:49.000 It's not even fucking close. 0.99

01:42:51.000 Cow farts. 1.00

01:42:52.000 Yeah, it's the dumbest shit ever. 1.00

01:42:54.000 And by the way, All of that is factory farming. 1.00

01:42:58.000 Regenerative farming is actually carbon neutral.

01:43:00.000 If they don't sequester carbon, it's actually good for carbon.

01:43:04.000 There's a whole reason why there's a balanced ecosystem of cows eating grass, and the grass...

01:43:11.000 Fermenting in their stomach and then creating manure.

01:43:14.000 That regenerates.

01:43:15.000 Yes, regenerates.

01:43:16.000 It's carbon neutral.

01:43:18.000 It's actually good for the environment and everything feeds off everything.

01:43:21.000 There's a system that nature has evolved for millions of years.

01:43:25.000 That's the normal way it's supposed to be done.

01:43:28.000 And, you know, we're just living in a crazy time.

01:43:31.000 Yeah, when you think of Denver and Colorado and the outdoors, man, you've got to appreciate everybody's opinion of, you know, I mean, it's a so old term, the granolaist, but it ain't granola no more.

01:43:47.000 I mean, it's...

01:43:49.000 They're getting a lot further than granola.

01:43:51.000 Granola used to be normal until they...

01:43:53.000 See, the thing is, those people were weird and rare, and they were tolerated.

01:43:57.000 But then they got online, and say if there's only ten of them in this town, five of them in that town...

01:44:02.000 Well, now there's hundreds of thousands of them collectively in the country, all as a group.

01:44:07.000 And then they think that they're activists.

01:44:09.000 So they think that they're doing something good.

01:44:12.000 So then they start saying things like, no fur in Colorado, pass this bill.

01:44:16.000 And you start saying, no meat, no more meat, no one should have meat.

01:44:20.000 What are you going to do with these cows?

01:44:22.000 What are you going to do?

01:44:23.000 Are you going to go around castrating all those bulls? 0.90

01:44:25.000 What are you going to do?

01:44:26.000 How are you going to control the populations?

01:44:27.000 Are you going to let them go extinct? 0.52

01:44:28.000 Are you going to castrate all the bulls?

01:44:30.000 Or are you going to let some of them breed?

01:44:31.000 How are you going to make this distinction?

01:44:32.000 Are you going to bring in wolves to handle them?

01:44:34.000 What are you going to do? 1.00

01:44:35.000 What the fuck are you going to do? 0.99

01:44:37.000 What are you going to do with all those people that work at the butcher shop? 0.99

01:44:39.000 What are you going to do with all those people that work at the meat processing plant?

01:44:42.000 What are you going to do with all those people that have been transporting meat back and forth? 0.88

01:44:45.000 What are you going to do with all those jobs, all those families, all their income, all their businesses that they've had for a hundred fucking years? 0.70

01:44:52.000 What are you going to do with that? 0.71

01:44:53.000 These people have the most minimal understanding of the system that they're trying to influence. 0.99

01:45:00.000 They don't know what the fuck they're doing by releasing wolves. 1.00

01:45:03.000 They think, wolves are beautiful! 0.99

01:45:04.000 Yay! 0.99

01:45:05.000 You see the governor?

01:45:06.000 He's releasing the wolves.

01:45:07.000 He's like, yay!

01:45:08.000 He looks so happy.

01:45:10.000 Yeah, they're going to be saying yay when they're down.

01:45:15.000 I don't know, dude.

01:45:16.000 The dog's getting eaten.

01:45:17.000 Dog, everything.

01:45:19.000 Dude, let me tell you something.

01:45:20.000 Well, not only that, they brought in wolves that had a history of killing cattle.

01:45:24.000 The wolves they brought into Colorado.

01:45:25.000 It's no different than the grizzly focusing on humans.

01:45:29.000 Man, I live just south of Nashville.

01:45:32.000 We've got 180 acres.

01:45:35.000 I've got neighborhoods all around us, man.

01:45:38.000 About every now and then, email goes out.

01:45:41.000 Little Fluffy's gone.

01:45:43.000 Coyotes?

01:45:44.000 We put six coyote traps out on my farm.

01:45:49.000 One night.

01:45:50.000 Six for six.

01:45:52.000 Wow. 1.00

01:45:53.000 And let me tell you what else is a little vicious son of a bitch. 1.00

01:45:59.000 A fucking otter. 1.00

01:46:02.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:46:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:46:03.000 Otters will fuck you up. 1.00

01:46:05.000 Let me tell you, buddy. 1.00

01:46:06.000 Those things are...

01:46:09.000 I mean, Joe, I'm so...

01:46:11.000 Like I said, my brain is bass fishing and all this stuff.

01:46:17.000 Man, we'll have otters come up into my bass pond... 0.99

01:46:20.000 And fuck those bass up. 1.00

01:46:22.000 I'm talking about... 1.00

01:46:23.000 They're fucking gone, the fish, in three nights. 0.99

01:46:28.000 The fish are gone. 0.99

01:46:30.000 And the otters...

01:46:33.000 Eat one and play with the other ones that they kill.

01:46:37.000 Wow.

01:46:38.000 And, like, you go by my lake.

01:46:41.000 Like, I have an all-female bass lake at my house, which this is a whole other fun deal. 0.58

01:46:48.000 They will roll through there and eat my all-females and just throw them up on the bank. 1.00

01:46:54.000 There's carcasses. 0.99

01:46:55.000 How many?

01:46:56.000 Oh, you get four otters in your pond on a 17-acre lake.

01:47:00.000 They'll eat 20 bass a night.

01:47:05.000 The problem is you don't know you've been got until you've been got.

01:47:11.000 Wow.

01:47:12.000 So Joe, to grow a 10-pound bass is about $3,000.

01:47:22.000 And think about it. 1.00

01:47:23.000 I've been loving on these damn fish. 0.99

01:47:25.000 I've been walking out there, making sure they're happy so we can all catch them. 1.00

01:47:31.000 And then damn, damn otters roll. 1.00

01:47:33.000 So if you have an overflow, a spillway on your farm, and it runs through your farm and dumps into a major river body of water, and that otter swims by that water dumping in that river... 1.00

01:47:45.000 He is up that river.

01:47:46.000 He's up that spillway into your lake, and he has got you.

01:47:51.000 Wow.

01:47:52.000 And we'll put traps out, dude.

01:47:54.000 And man, they just keep coming.

01:47:57.000 Wow.

01:47:57.000 Keep coming.

01:47:58.000 And I'm talking about otter pelts.

01:48:01.000 I mean, like the prettiest thing you've ever seen.

01:48:05.000 So do you turn them into coats or anything?

01:48:07.000 I mean, we've got enough where, you know, we've got them skinned out in freezers and rolled up in our freezers.

01:48:14.000 And my farm guys, I mean, I think they're...

01:48:17.000 But you know, the sad part is the market for that should be an amazing market. 0.99

01:48:22.000 But I think, because everybody's scared to say they got a damn otter pelt. 0.99

01:48:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:48:27.000 You know, but... 0.99

01:48:28.000 Yeah, fur.

01:48:29.000 Fur's got a bad name.

01:48:30.000 If it's got hair on it, leather's fine.

01:48:34.000 None of it's fine.

01:48:35.000 But leather's fine with people.

01:48:37.000 No one has a problem with you wearing cowboy boots.

01:48:39.000 Nobody gets mad.

01:48:40.000 Yeah, see?

01:48:41.000 Leather.

01:48:41.000 Nobody gets mad at leather.

01:48:43.000 All that is is fur with no fucking hair on it. 0.99

01:48:46.000 It's the same thing. 0.99

01:48:48.000 It's weird. 1.00

01:48:49.000 But damn otters, man, them little rascals, you know, they... 1.00

01:48:54.000 I'm building a lake at my place in Georgia, and it's right on the Flint River. 1.00

01:48:57.000 You're running wildlife management.

01:48:59.000 I love it, man.

01:49:00.000 It's so fun.

01:49:02.000 It's so damn fun.

01:49:04.000 It's four hours of my day.

01:49:06.000 And it also cleanses your mind, right?

01:49:08.000 Totally.

01:49:09.000 Just like hunting.

01:49:10.000 It's totally...

01:49:11.000 And it is not for myself.

01:49:15.000 You can't...

01:49:16.000 My enjoyment is to watch...

01:49:22.000 My children's friends come enjoy it too.

01:49:25.000 My sons will bring a buddy home from school.

01:49:28.000 And next thing you know, Tate and his 13-year-old buddy are shooting bows in the front yard all weekend.

01:49:36.000 And this kid, who doesn't have a dad that hunts...

01:49:40.000 Or has the ability, next thing you know, I got one kid, my Tate's buddy James, his eighth consecutive weekend at my house, hunting.

01:49:50.000 Just loving life, shooting bow and arrows.

01:49:54.000 Did you show him how to shoot correctly?

01:49:56.000 Got it all, got him dialed in, he shot his first doe this weekend.

01:50:00.000 Nice.

01:50:00.000 Just so fun.

01:50:03.000 When you meet these guys, they don't let anybody else enjoy it.

01:50:07.000 I don't like those guys either.

01:50:10.000 I love to enjoy it with people.

01:50:13.000 The bass fishing thing is a blast.

01:50:15.000 My lake in Georgia is going to be about 35 acres, and I think we'll do an all-female lake down there. 1.00

01:50:21.000 Why all females? 1.00

01:50:22.000 That way they can't breed.

01:50:24.000 Your females are your trophy bass. 1.00

01:50:26.000 Right, the big fat ones.

01:50:27.000 The big fat ones. 0.96

01:50:28.000 But don't they have to get pregnant to be really big and fat? 1.00

01:50:30.000 You put them in, and they don't have to be pregnant. 1.00

01:50:36.000 They just have to have the big eggs, and when they lay them, they just have to have a male not fertilize them. 0.99

01:50:42.000 That's right, of course.

01:50:43.000 So if you get a male in there, Then you have a natural, thriving...

01:50:50.000 He'll eat the babies, too, though, right?

01:50:52.000 A male bass will forage on themselves. 0.97

01:50:56.000 But male bass...

01:50:58.000 Now, I have three lakes that are naturally...

01:51:02.000 Their own ecosystem, where we have to, you know, I've got an 82-acre bass lake that we have to catch 3,500 pounds of bass a year just to keep them from not choking themselves out.

01:51:16.000 Really?

01:51:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:51:17.000 3,500 pounds?

01:51:19.000 100 pounds.

01:51:20.000 So what do you do?

01:51:21.000 Just call your friends?

01:51:22.000 Dude, we have bass roundups, and we get out there, and we catch them, and we'll load up coolers and take them into the little towns and give them to people.

01:51:31.000 I mean, it becomes a problem.

01:51:32.000 It's a weird thing with largemouth bass, too, because a lot of people don't eat them, and yet they're delicious.

01:51:37.000 They're great.

01:51:38.000 They're great.

01:51:39.000 They're basically the same as bluegills.

01:51:41.000 Well, bluegills...

01:51:44.000 You know, like, all the bluegills at my lake, we feed them pellet food so they'll get big, so the bass will eat them, so the bass will get big.

01:51:52.000 And you don't want to go eat a bluegill that's been parked under a pellet.

01:51:57.000 Yeah.

01:51:58.000 But...

01:52:00.000 A little wild bluegill stream or a little natural creek where I grew up in Georgia, like shell crackers and bluegill that eat like a cricket or that are eating live stuff.

01:52:12.000 You fillet one of them real small creek or river bluegills.

01:52:16.000 Fry them up.

01:52:17.000 Oh, nothing better in the world.

01:52:19.000 And bass is similar to that.

01:52:21.000 Oh, bass.

01:52:22.000 It's a nice flaky white meat.

01:52:24.000 Flaky white meat, get you a three or four pound bass, fillet it like a red snapper.

01:52:28.000 But people like catching them so much, they want you to release them.

01:52:31.000 We spent our whole life, my dad would catch bass, we would fillet them, he'd put them in a Pyrex dish, sauté them, bake them, and then broil them on top, and we'd eat large mouth bass.

01:52:46.000 You know.

01:52:47.000 You could either have salmon croquettes that stink up the whole house.

01:52:52.000 You know, where you knew your mama was cooking them, or you can have fresh bass, you know, so we grew up.

01:52:57.000 But isn't it a weird animal, or weird fish, rather, that a lot of people don't eat, but it's good to eat?

01:53:01.000 Well, you know, you wouldn't want everybody fishing your big reservoirs.

01:53:09.000 Like, Texas is the best big bass lake reservoir state in the country.

01:53:13.000 You wouldn't want everybody out there keeping them.

01:53:15.000 You know, you want to practice...

01:53:17.000 You want to practice catch and release on your big public reservoirs.

01:53:21.000 Right.

01:53:22.000 But, you know, when you've got a private impoundment where, you know, you want to keep your bass.

01:53:30.000 Because your bass, you'll wake up.

01:53:32.000 Let's just say you've got a nice, brand-new bass lake you built, 10 acres.

01:53:37.000 You stock it.

01:53:38.000 You spend 50 grand to put your bluegill, all your fish in there.

01:53:43.000 Then you just don't ever catch them.

01:53:45.000 Well, then in five years, you've lost it.

01:53:47.000 Right.

01:53:48.000 You have to manage it.

01:53:49.000 Yeah, you're done.

01:53:50.000 Your lake's done.

01:53:52.000 Your three-pound bass didn't have enough fish to get to four pounds, and then he missed a year of growing, or she missed a year of growing, and then you just put a $50,000 investment in your bass lake.

01:54:06.000 And then you're out.

01:54:07.000 Right.

01:54:08.000 You might as well drain it, start over.

01:54:10.000 You know what I'd really like to do?

01:54:11.000 Get a place in the north and have a lake with pike in it. 1.00

01:54:15.000 I think they might be my favorite thing to catch.

01:54:17.000 Because they're so ruthless.

01:54:19.000 That's such a ruthless fish.

01:54:20.000 An animal. 1.00

01:54:21.000 A fucking dinosaur. 1.00

01:54:22.000 A killer. 1.00

01:54:23.000 They look like dinosaurs.

01:54:25.000 First time I caught a pike, I'm like, why isn't this like the most exciting thing to catch? 1.00

01:54:30.000 They fight hard?

01:54:31.000 Or a muskie.

01:54:32.000 Jesus.

01:54:33.000 I've never caught one of those.

01:54:34.000 Me either.

01:54:35.000 That's the fish of 10,000 casts?

01:54:38.000 Yeah.

01:54:38.000 See, I'm not that dude.

01:54:40.000 Now, I'll wait and hunt a...

01:54:42.000 You know, I'm not a...

01:54:44.000 Like, I don't have to have the biggest, best animal my whole life.

01:54:48.000 Like, I don't...

01:54:49.000 You know, some people, they're like...

01:54:51.000 They get into numbers.

01:54:52.000 They're size queens. 1.00

01:54:54.000 Yeah, or score.

01:54:55.000 I'm not that guy.

01:54:56.000 I'm unexperienced.

01:54:57.000 Let's have fun.

01:54:58.000 Let's see a lot of animals.

01:54:59.000 Let's catch a lot of fish.

01:55:00.000 Let's keep a lot of action.

01:55:02.000 Let's keep the kids engaged. 0.99

01:55:05.000 You know...

01:55:07.000 When my boys were four and five, you don't want to take them out there on their first three bass fishing trips and you burn them in the hot sun and they catch one fish.

01:55:19.000 You want them engaged and get them going.

01:55:25.000 Pike and all that, that stillheading, that northwest stillheading.

01:55:30.000 Catching one, man, I don't, that's just, I hadn't done that.

01:55:33.000 I can't do that.

01:55:34.000 That's a release fish too, right?

01:55:36.000 Oh, those are, those are the, yeah, those are high on the list of, especially like C-run steelheads. 0.97

01:55:44.000 You know, you have, you have some that are kind of locked in, you know, locked in the reservoir locked.

01:55:51.000 But you get those, those big C-run steelheads and they really hold them. 1.00

01:55:54.000 And they should hold them in high regard.

01:55:56.000 You shouldn't, You need to leave those alone and let them come and go. 0.67

01:56:02.000 Yeah, but then why are you catching them?

01:56:05.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:56:06.000 Why are you fucking with those fish? 0.99

01:56:08.000 Because that's... 1.00

01:56:09.000 It's a little bit of that.

01:56:11.000 I get it.

01:56:12.000 It's fun.

01:56:13.000 I'm not opposed to it.

01:56:14.000 I get it.

01:56:15.000 But if I catch fish, I like to eat them.

01:56:17.000 That's the whole reason why I'm catching fish.

01:56:20.000 You know what?

01:56:21.000 That's why I like to catch walleye.

01:56:23.000 I would still say you're in the majority.

01:56:25.000 Yeah.

01:56:26.000 I think that's how it should be.

01:56:28.000 I mean, imagine if you just run around shooting deer with tranquilizer darts.

01:56:31.000 Look, I got them.

01:56:33.000 A little weird.

01:56:34.000 A little weird.

01:56:35.000 Yeah, I've seen some.

01:56:37.000 Just to prove that you did it?

01:56:38.000 Yeah, you know, and they make bumper tips on bows. 1.00

01:56:42.000 You can doink deer in the ass and run them off. 1.00

01:56:46.000 And they're like, why are you doinking a deer in the ass? 1.00

01:56:49.000 It's a little weird. 0.99

01:56:51.000 It's like they make those club heads so you can shoot squirrels and birds.

01:56:55.000 Yeah.

01:56:56.000 Well, you know, man, listen, dude.

01:56:58.000 I grew up, you know, my little town in Leesburg, man.

01:57:01.000 I mean, every year I got a pellet gun for Christmas.

01:57:04.000 And I got a full...

01:57:10.000 Camo onesie, or a coverall, and dude, I'd put my new pair of Chippewa hunting boots, I'd put my new set of coveralls on with a camo pattern, I'd hit the neighborhood walking around with a pellet gun shooting the neighbor squirrels.

01:57:28.000 And, you know, we'd eat them every now and then.

01:57:32.000 This little old lady, Mabel Coxwell, we'd skin them and she'd fry them with some wild rice. 1.00

01:57:37.000 It tastes good.

01:57:38.000 If you cook a squirrel and do it right, man, it ain't nothing wrong with a squirrel.

01:57:41.000 Isn't that crazy that most people don't know that?

01:57:44.000 Right.

01:57:44.000 Squirrels are delicious.

01:57:45.000 Squirrel hunting is very popular in parts of the South.

01:57:48.000 Squirrel dumplings.

01:57:49.000 Instead of chicken and dumplings, squirrel dumplings.

01:57:54.000 You know, you get a squirrel and clean it right and brine it.

01:57:58.000 For the night and cook it with dumplings and put some onions and celery and all that and you're off to the races.

01:58:05.000 People think of them, they have like fluffy tail privilege. 0.99

01:58:08.000 Rats with tails. 0.85

01:58:10.000 Because you see a rat, rats have those slimy tails and people are like, that's disgusting.

01:58:13.000 And they see that fluffy tail like, aww, so cute.

01:58:17.000 Not much different.

01:58:20.000 You know?

01:58:21.000 Well, the fact that, you know, the fact that, yeah, I could run rampant at nine years old through the neighborhood riding my Honda 50 motorcycle, you know, through people's backyards, you know, chasing squirrels, 0.96

01:58:36.000 and everybody's like, thank you, that damn thing's been in my attic chewing up my Pink Panther insulation for... 0.95

01:58:44.000 That's rural life, right? 0.99

01:58:46.000 Well, that's people that understand what's going on.

01:58:49.000 That's the difference between a neighborhood in Manhattan. 0.99

01:58:53.000 People are like, what the fuck is this guy doing? 0.99

01:58:55.000 We need these squirrels. 1.00

01:58:57.000 If they caught you in Central Park with a pellet gun, you'd go to jail.

01:59:01.000 First round ticket.

01:59:03.000 Do not pass go, do not click.

01:59:06.000 If you break into a store and rob it, nothing will happen to you.

01:59:08.000 They'll let you right out.

01:59:10.000 But if you get caught in Central Park shooting squirrels and eating them, you're going to get in real trouble.

01:59:15.000 It's wild.

01:59:16.000 We live in a wild world.

01:59:18.000 It's a very strange, distorted version of what human beings have been experiencing for most of history.

01:59:26.000 I mean, nothing is wrong with hunting a little bit.

01:59:30.000 Especially when 95% of the world eats meat. 1.00

01:59:33.000 It's a stupid argument. 1.00

01:59:34.000 Well, and I think it's all trendy, too. 1.00

01:59:37.000 I think the beauty is now the education of...

01:59:41.000 I mean, you look at how great carnivore diets are being.

01:59:48.000 I've never done a big old carnivore.

01:59:50.000 Have you ever done a big carnivore?

01:59:51.000 Oh, yeah.

01:59:52.000 Did it change your life?

01:59:53.000 Oh, yeah.

01:59:54.000 That's mostly how I eat.

01:59:55.000 Great.

01:59:55.000 I eat fruit and meat.

01:59:57.000 Great.

01:59:58.000 99%. 1.00

01:59:58.000 I fuck around. 1.00

01:59:59.000 My daughter likes to cook cookies. 1.00

02:00:00.000 I had a big-ass cookie the other day.

02:00:02.000 It was awesome. 0.92

02:00:03.000 I mean, I'm not ridiculous.

02:00:05.000 I'll eat other things.

02:00:07.000 I'm not religious about it.

02:00:08.000 But most of my diet, like 90% is just meat and occasionally fruit.

02:00:12.000 Fruit before I work out.

02:00:14.000 Fruit sometimes after I work out.

02:00:16.000 But mostly it's just meat.

02:00:18.000 Well, you know, like I said, the best thing about what you do here is you give everybody their platform to talk about their way.

02:00:29.000 Yeah.

02:00:29.000 And, you know, your platform is enlightening.

02:00:32.000 I mean, you know, dude, I've never, you know...

02:00:34.000 I was around some dude that was talking about, you know, microdosing mushrooms and all that.

02:00:42.000 Dude, I never saw a drug.

02:00:45.000 I never saw a drug...

02:00:49.000 Until I was 30. Did you see moonshine?

02:00:52.000 Saw moonshine a lot.

02:00:53.000 That's a drug. 1.00

02:00:54.000 That is a fucking drug. 1.00

02:00:56.000 Well, you're right. 1.00

02:00:57.000 I mean, you drink a half jar of mason.

02:01:00.000 Oh, yeah. 0.76

02:01:01.000 You're going to die.

02:01:02.000 That's the crazy thing about alcohol.

02:01:04.000 It gets the past.

02:01:06.000 We are having nicotine right now.

02:01:08.000 This is a drug.

02:01:09.000 And when I have these...

02:01:11.000 It's a nice cigar, by the way.

02:01:12.000 It's perfect.

02:01:13.000 It's very good.

02:01:13.000 Very mild.

02:01:14.000 And, man, I was 39 years old before I did any tobacco.

02:01:19.000 Really?

02:01:20.000 Never dipped.

02:01:21.000 My dad kept Levi Garrett, Taylor's Pride, you know.

02:01:27.000 The only time he wasn't chewing meant he had a life insurance policy.

02:01:30.000 He had to get blood work and didn't want to fail his life insurance policy.

02:01:36.000 But I was 39. My mom, you know, my mom's a character.

02:01:40.000 She, you know, but never did tobacco, never dipped. 0.86

02:01:44.000 I put one dip in one time and threw up outside my high school.

02:01:49.000 This old boy threw me a dip in, and dude, big old Kodiak, and I threw up outside the high school gymnasium and missed my...

02:01:57.000 5th and 6th period, and I was like, dude, I don't need that.

02:02:00.000 Remember those bricks, those squares of chewing tobacco you bite a chunk off?

02:02:15.000 Brought a nice Davidoff Churchill cigar.

02:02:20.000 And any cigar I'd ever done...

02:02:21.000 Now, I had smoked a cigar, like, in Vegas.

02:02:24.000 And most of the time back then, you know, I done drank a Handle of Crown and smoked a cigar.

02:02:30.000 And you wake up the next morning, and you're like, you know, your life's over, essentially.

02:02:34.000 Well, it's probably the Handle of Crown.

02:02:36.000 Well, we smoked that cigar, and I sat in my rocking chair.

02:02:40.000 And just smoke that cigar.

02:02:42.000 And I was like, man, this is kind of...

02:02:43.000 It's kind of nice.

02:02:44.000 This is kind of like therapy right here. 0.99

02:02:47.000 All these people smoking cigars aren't stupid. 0.99

02:02:49.000 There's got to be something to it. 0.99

02:02:50.000 And they're chilled out.

02:02:51.000 Yeah.

02:02:52.000 It's a nice conversational thing to do.

02:02:55.000 They are chilled.

02:02:56.000 They are universally...

02:02:57.000 Yeah.

02:02:58.000 Chilled out.

02:02:58.000 But it's a drug.

02:02:59.000 Oh.

02:03:00.000 It's a drug.

02:03:01.000 Yeah, let's don't.

02:03:01.000 It's a drug.

02:03:02.000 We're drinking coffee.

02:03:02.000 That's a drug.

02:03:04.000 The problem is, there's a lot of drugs. 0.99

02:03:07.000 And some of them are really fucking bad for you. 0.98

02:03:09.000 Here's the deal. 0.97

02:03:10.000 And I'll call my buddy every now and then.

02:03:13.000 And he was my buddy that bought me the cigar.

02:03:16.000 He was a lifelong Copenhagen and cigarettes here and quitting.

02:03:20.000 And I called him.

02:03:22.000 I'll call him periodically.

02:03:24.000 And I'm like... 1.00

02:03:25.000 You asshole. 1.00

02:03:26.000 I'm stopping at a random cigar shop. 1.00

02:03:29.000 I've gone four days without a cigar, and I'm riding down the road, and I determine right now I need one.

02:03:37.000 You know, you weave across four lanes of traffic, find a, you know, and the next thing you know, you're smoking a grocery store, I mean, a gas station cigar to just, but hey, it keeps you, keeps the head clean.

02:03:49.000 I like them.

02:03:50.000 Like I said, I think it's one of the best things for conversations.

02:03:53.000 And I don't think you need to smoke 12 of them a day.

02:03:54.000 No, I don't think so either.

02:03:56.000 But I know people who do.

02:03:57.000 I know people who just go one to the other.

02:03:59.000 They just chain smoke cigars.

02:04:01.000 Now my mother, dude.

02:04:04.000 Salem Ultralight 100. It's three packs a day.

02:04:07.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:04:09.000 Four Bud Lights a day her whole life.

02:04:13.000 Four Bud Lights.

02:04:14.000 Every day.

02:04:15.000 Is she still with us?

02:04:16.000 She's with us. 0.99

02:04:17.000 Damn, that's the thing that always gets people. 0.99

02:04:19.000 Dude. 0.99

02:04:19.000 They're like, maybe I should quit. 0.99

02:04:20.000 Hold on.

02:04:21.000 Look at Lou's mom. 1.00

02:04:23.000 Listen, my mom, man, dude, she, Joe, she's curbed the beer a little bit, but she'll drink her couple O'Doul's, but she's going to have her one or two Bud Lights.

02:04:37.000 Every day?

02:04:38.000 Every day.

02:04:39.000 She's going to, three packs, but she's like the... 1.00

02:04:44.000 You know, it's like, if she's walking in to the Dillard's or to the TJ Maxx, she's like, oh my god, I'm walking in.

02:04:52.000 Take a couple puffs.

02:04:53.000 Take a couple and hit, you know, litter the parking lot.

02:04:56.000 But she'll pan fry a ribeye in butter. 1.00

02:05:01.000 Pan fries a ribeye.

02:05:02.000 That's probably what's keeping her alive.

02:05:04.000 Pan fries a ribeye, fries some shoestring french fries. 0.99

02:05:09.000 And that's her damn meal four to five nights a week. 1.00

02:05:13.000 Four. 1.00

02:05:15.000 76 glorious years.

02:05:16.000 That's probably why she's healthy. 0.99

02:05:18.000 And is ready to chew my ass out at any moment. 0.99

02:05:23.000 And how many cigarettes do you think she's down to a day? 1.00

02:05:25.000 I hope she's probably at a pack and a half.

02:05:29.000 But man, when you do the math, when I used to sit her down and do math, you know, her and my dad were married 32 years and divorced, and so when she went out kind of on her own, I'd sit her down and do the math on four Bud Lights, two and a half packs of Salem's, and four pan-fried ribeyes. 0.96

02:05:47.000 That becomes a damn number annually. 0.92

02:05:49.000 I think the ribeyes are fine. 0.99

02:05:51.000 Leave her alone with the ribeyes. 0.99

02:05:52.000 You know what?

02:05:52.000 But through the years, I've gotten Miller Lite endorsements.

02:05:56.000 I would get Miller Lite.

02:05:58.000 I'd be like, Mama.

02:06:00.000 There's a Miller Lite truck pulling up to your house.

02:06:02.000 It's going to deliver you a pallet of Miller Lite.

02:06:05.000 Just try.

02:06:08.000 Just try to fall in love with Miller Lite.

02:06:11.000 Right.

02:06:12.000 Nope.

02:06:12.000 Bud Light.

02:06:13.000 I'd get home two months after the pallet got there.

02:06:18.000 There the pallet sits.

02:06:19.000 Calling my buddies.

02:06:20.000 Hey, boys.

02:06:21.000 A lot of people had a personal crisis when there was the Bud Light boycott.

02:06:26.000 There was a lot of people like, I don't know what to do.

02:06:30.000 I don't know what to do.

02:06:31.000 When Kid Rock shot that Bud Light...

02:06:33.000 And then he kept selling it in his bar.

02:06:37.000 We drank some.

02:06:38.000 We drank some on the podcast we did together.

02:06:40.000 Yeah, and I love him.

02:06:41.000 He let it go after a while.

02:06:42.000 He did.

02:06:43.000 I love him. 0.94

02:06:44.000 He's been a damn good buddy of mine and has come to my charity event. 0.98

02:06:49.000 He's a wild boy. 0.96

02:06:50.000 He's awesome.

02:06:51.000 I love that dude.

02:06:52.000 He's a lot of fun.

02:06:53.000 He's awesome.

02:06:54.000 But when I saw him do that, I was like...

02:06:57.000 Oof.

02:06:58.000 Imagine being the CEO of Bud Light and seeing that.

02:07:00.000 Like, oh no.

02:07:02.000 Kid Rock just shot our beer. 1.00

02:07:05.000 With a fucking automatic. 1.00

02:07:08.000 And was like, fuck Anheuser-Busch. 1.00

02:07:10.000 Like, no! 1.00

02:07:12.000 And, I mean, that alone probably cost them billions of dollars.

02:07:16.000 Just having him do that.

02:07:17.000 Yeah, when our beer is political, we're like...

02:07:22.000 Not just our beer, but Bud Light.

02:07:25.000 Bud Light, the beer that sponsored more boxing matches, more sporting events, more people have been drinking Bud Light.

02:07:33.000 I mean, think about all the people who swear by Bud Light.

02:07:36.000 Post Malone's always drinking Bud Light. 0.99

02:07:37.000 And then, you know, my wife's dad is a Budweiser fucking 12-pack a day dude, man. 0.98

02:07:44.000 And, you know, he had to... 1.00

02:07:46.000 He had to hear a little shit from his buddies about it. 0.99

02:07:48.000 People getting fights in bars. 1.00

02:07:50.000 I have a friend who owned a bar.

02:07:52.000 We stopped carrying at the mothership because nobody was buying it.

02:07:55.000 We stopped carrying Bud Light because nobody was buying Bud Light.

02:07:59.000 Have we checked on where it...

02:08:01.000 It's come back.

02:08:02.000 Fully?

02:08:03.000 No, I don't think so. 1.00

02:08:05.000 I think there's a bunch of holdouts that are always going to go, fuck those liberals, forever. 0.99

02:08:09.000 But the lady who came up with the idea is gone. 0.99

02:08:11.000 The whole marketing team behind, they're all gone.

02:08:15.000 Anheuser-Busch is an American company that has employed American people forever.

02:08:19.000 It's a great company. 1.00

02:08:20.000 They just fucked up. 1.00

02:08:21.000 They get caught up in the mind virus. 1.00

02:08:23.000 Anheuser-Busch taught us that beer is wonderful for Christmas, and Clydesdales and Dalmatians are the equivalent of Jesus and Christmas. 0.95

02:08:36.000 Remember those Bud Light guys, the Real American Genius guys?

02:08:40.000 Remember that?

02:08:40.000 Real American Genius.

02:08:43.000 They had great commercials.

02:08:44.000 Dude, I would cry over the Dalmatian Clydesdale commercial.

02:08:48.000 You remember the little puppy?

02:08:50.000 Yeah.

02:08:51.000 He's riding on the Clydesdales.

02:08:52.000 Find that, Jamie. 1.00

02:08:53.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:08:54.000 It's like a friggin' Hallmark. 1.00

02:08:56.000 You would never think that that company could get taken down. 0.93

02:09:00.000 But that just, I think that was good.

02:09:03.000 It was bad for Bud Light, but I think it was good.

02:09:06.000 Here it is.

02:09:06.000 Let's see it.

02:09:07.000 We're gonna get all sweet.

02:09:09.000 Here we go!

02:09:10.000 Oh, the little puppy.

02:09:13.000 Listen to that music.

02:09:15.000 Well, I know I'm gonna be young.

02:09:17.000 I'm gonna be the man who wakes up.

02:09:21.000 Aw, little puppy got out.

02:09:27.000 Aw, poor puppy's lost.

02:09:29.000 This is for beer.

02:09:31.000 This is for beer?

02:09:32.000 Yeah.

02:09:33.000 Poor little puppy.

02:09:34.000 Wow, what a commercial.

02:09:37.000 Who...

02:09:37.000 We need to find...

02:09:38.000 Oh, God.

02:09:39.000 Wolves.

02:09:39.000 Wolves, they're in Colorado.

02:09:58.000 The horses save the puppy from the wolves.

02:10:01.000 Have a bud.

02:10:07.000 Very effective commercial, you know?

02:10:09.000 Real quick, you're happy.

02:10:10.000 Yeah, and then there's the one where it's a Dalmatian, too, that grew up and then got to the old Dalmatian, and the little, you know, they're riding, and the young Dalmatian sees the old Dalmatian, and I think the old Dalmatian kicks the bucket,

02:10:26.000 and then the new Dalmatian takes its place, and then you're like, oh my God, it's the best thing ever.

02:10:32.000 Yeah, and that company got taken out.

02:10:37.000 By having a transgender woman on their can. 1.00

02:10:41.000 But it just shows you how prevalent this whole mind virus is that it even got into Bud Light, which is just bizarre. 0.98

02:10:49.000 But the lady who's responsible for it all basically shit on the entire customer base, you know, saying that they have a fratty sense of humor and we need to update it, make it more inclusive. 1.00

02:11:03.000 And like, do you I don't know what you're saying. 0.91

02:11:06.000 You're alienating all the people that buy it and love it and counting on people who don't buy it and love it to start buying it and loving it.

02:11:15.000 And maybe that'll work, but you just alienated everybody who buys it and loves it. 0.96

02:11:20.000 It's the dumbest poker move of all time. 0.99

02:11:23.000 The worst. 1.00

02:11:25.000 Is it a drumless move?

02:11:26.000 Well, you know, when you look at country music, too, I mean, with country music, I mean, it is what it is.

02:11:34.000 There's things that it is.

02:11:35.000 And you gotta love on what it is.

02:11:38.000 And then you gotta grow it, too.

02:11:40.000 I mean, there's sensible ways to grow it.

02:11:42.000 But it has to be up to the artist to just express themselves honestly.

02:11:46.000 And if the artist is a country artist that has a different perspective, let that be.

02:11:50.000 But leave all the rest of it the way it is, too.

02:11:53.000 Buddy, with every successful music artist that's ever lived, they may have faked you out, any genre, but country is even, country's tough.

02:12:08.000 Because once you show any unauthenticity, buddy, you're done.

02:12:16.000 You're done.

02:12:17.000 I can imagine.

02:12:18.000 Like, dude, I mean...

02:12:20.000 Yeah.

02:12:22.000 Like, dude, my biggest...

02:12:24.000 Man, you know, I got...

02:12:27.000 My thing was tight jeans.

02:12:32.000 You wouldn't imagine me wearing tight jeans on stage.

02:12:37.000 How much that pisses people.

02:12:40.000 Well, it's because you're handsome.

02:12:42.000 That's part of the problem.

02:12:44.000 You're a good-looking guy up there with tight jeans. 1.00

02:12:46.000 Shaking ass. 1.00

02:12:47.000 Shaking that ass, showing that bulge. 1.00

02:12:49.000 Get out of here. 1.00

02:12:50.000 Dude, and then I'm like...

02:12:52.000 Bring back Merle Haggard. 1.00

02:12:53.000 What the fuck is this? 0.99

02:12:54.000 So, Joe, you know, one thing, you know... 0.99

02:12:58.000 My biggest hurdle ever in my career, and it still breaks my heart to this day.

02:13:08.000 You know, back when I... My only way to...

02:13:14.000 Your only way to make it in music is you've got to stop people's eyeballs on you.

02:13:24.000 You've got to grab them.

02:13:26.000 Vocally, visually, musically different. 0.99

02:13:31.000 You've got to get them to stop for two seconds and go, what is that fucker doing right there? 0.99

02:13:38.000 And when I came out with Country Girl Shake It For Me on the CMA shaking my ass, I mean, I had to do it that way. 0.99

02:13:51.000 In my opinion, I had to go, this is my moment to show Country Goes Shake It For Me, and I'm the guy that dances and don't give a damn, and let's have some fun and come along for the ride. 0.97

02:14:03.000 And it was amazing.

02:14:05.000 It was amazing.

02:14:06.000 You know, the fact that I'm a Georgia boy at the time, and I was talking to Texas people, I was talking to everybody.

02:14:14.000 Well then, at some point, a label for me became Bro Country.

02:14:22.000 Had you ever even heard that term?

02:14:23.000 I did.

02:14:24.000 I did because of you.

02:14:26.000 Yeah.

02:14:28.000 Well, so I heard it, and I'm like, well, bro country. 0.92

02:14:32.000 Well, then I started seeing the people making fun of bro country, and I'm like, this is kind of fucking pissing me off. 0.84

02:14:39.000 And then me and some other artists start getting looped into this bro country phase. 0.77

02:14:46.000 Well...

02:14:49.000 When I was in my form of coming up as an artist, and I don't even know, we don't have to live on this long, but you'll be amazed, dude.

02:14:58.000 So, I would go play.

02:15:00.000 I made my way by going to Georgia and playing Georgia College Towns.

02:15:07.000 In the southeast, and even I played Auburn a little bit, Auburn, Alabama.

02:15:11.000 And that school, I always wanted to break into Auburn and Tuscaloosa because I was always a Georgia artist.

02:15:19.000 Well, I started branching out.

02:15:22.000 Well, dude, I'd get done with a college party.

02:15:25.000 I'd walk off stage. 0.97

02:15:27.000 The first thing that would happen is, you know, three, six, nine, damn she fine, give it to me, give it to me one more time, get low, get low. 1.00

02:15:37.000 I mean, and right when my set got done, hip hop, The vibe went to a nightclub. 0.87

02:15:48.000 And I'm standing, I done walked off stage, went to the bar, ordered the beer, and watched everybody that just let me play Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, all the classics, my couple of new songs.

02:16:03.000 And I was like, well, man, this is... 0.98

02:16:05.000 Nobody's got a fucking problem with this. 0.99

02:16:07.000 This is... 0.99

02:16:08.000 We're all together in this good time.

02:16:12.000 So when I did Country Girl Shake It, for me, that made that tie.

02:16:17.000 Crossover.

02:16:18.000 It combined them.

02:16:20.000 It made it tie to a little bit.

02:16:22.000 And then Jason Aldean had his...

02:16:26.000 She's country... 1.00

02:16:28.000 Fucking biggest song. 1.00

02:16:30.000 When I heard... 1.00

02:16:30.000 I mean, at the time, when Jason and I are buddies, he does She's Country. 1.00

02:16:36.000 I do Country Girl Shaker for me, and me and him are like... 0.99

02:16:39.000 We're like, this shit... 1.00

02:16:41.000 Our lives are... 1.00

02:16:43.000 I mean, I toured with Jason one year, and he broke all of Elvis' indoor records.

02:16:49.000 We did it for two years.

02:16:51.000 I was the opener, and Jason was the headliner, and people, and rap was, we were playing rap before the show, and everybody was in, well, then Bro Country comes along.

02:17:05.000 Dude, I wake up on the bus one morning, and I got this interview. 0.93

02:17:12.000 Sitting there drinking my coffee in my fucking underwear, and this dude calls me with Hits magazine. 0.98

02:17:18.000 And he goes, well, Luke, you know, man, this broke country thing. 0.99

02:17:24.000 And I said, well, hold up, buddy.

02:17:27.000 Here's what this is.

02:17:30.000 And I said, and man, I did this, and I made one fatal error.

02:17:36.000 And at the time, Joe... 0.99

02:17:39.000 No one hated my ass. 1.00

02:17:42.000 I believe that. 1.00

02:17:43.000 I mean, because I was coming to Billy Bob's, playing...

02:17:49.000 Well, I had Texas.

02:17:53.000 I'd go to Bozeman, Montana and play Country Girl Shaker for me.

02:17:59.000 I'd go to everywhere.

02:18:00.000 Well, and I said, man, I don't know how to be an outlaw.

02:18:07.000 I'm not an outlaw.

02:18:11.000 I'm a college dude that played frat parties for country music. 0.97

02:18:18.000 I was like, I fucking did not go sit in a prison cell like Merle Haggard and write songs about guys going to death row. 0.97

02:18:28.000 And I didn't go to Folsom Prison. 0.98

02:18:31.000 And man, I listed all that.

02:18:33.000 I was like, I'm not like Willie Nelson.

02:18:36.000 I don't do Willie Nelson.

02:18:38.000 They're outlaws. 0.96

02:18:39.000 And I said, if it's bro country and that's what I'm labeled as, I said, and where I fucked up, as I said, I haven't spent the night sleeping on the street. 0.96

02:18:50.000 And I didn't say, like Johnny Cash's song, Sunday Morning Coming Down. 0.93

02:18:56.000 That's what I meant.

02:18:57.000 I just didn't tie it.

02:18:59.000 Well, that dude took that article and said, Luke Bryan says outlaw country people are basically...

02:19:09.000 Drug addicts that sleep in the street.

02:19:11.000 And man, I pissed that whole...

02:19:13.000 The way they manipulated that story, I lost that whole crowd right then.

02:19:18.000 Wow.

02:19:19.000 Broke my heart.

02:19:20.000 And I think Waylon Jennings' daughter went real public with being... 1.00

02:19:24.000 I mean, she was fucking mad at my ass. 1.00

02:19:27.000 And dude, she went on there going, you know, Luke, my dad never laid. 1.00

02:19:31.000 And I never meant that.

02:19:33.000 I just meant...

02:19:34.000 Yeah, Waylon was in there too.

02:19:36.000 But we all know what all those guys are because we got to watch all the documentaries about those guys.

02:19:42.000 And we got to be students of those guys.

02:19:45.000 Well, that's the problem with interviews.

02:19:46.000 First of all, they're trying to get you.

02:19:48.000 Well, your interviews are the beauty.

02:19:51.000 And no one's gotten popped more than you.

02:19:54.000 Because they'll take our... 0.99

02:19:55.000 Man, I hope we sit here and bullshit for three hours. 0.99

02:19:58.000 But they'll take your five minutes. 0.99

02:20:00.000 Right.

02:20:01.000 Out of context.

02:20:02.000 And now they'll AI you.

02:20:04.000 That's happened a lot.

02:20:06.000 So what happened, man, that thing started growing.

02:20:10.000 And man, I had motorcycle gangs wanting to burn my house down.

02:20:14.000 When you get misrepresented in...

02:20:18.000 That type of deal.

02:20:19.000 And then the subcategories of articles, then the article of the article of the article.

02:20:26.000 What year was this?

02:20:27.000 Man, I don't know.

02:20:28.000 It was probably 2012 or 2013. So this was when social media was not as impactful.

02:20:35.000 It was becoming...

02:20:38.000 Was YouTube even around then?

02:20:40.000 Yes, and clickbait, the world of clickbait was getting rocking.

02:20:47.000 So what I did is, man, I called Waylon Jennings' daughter and said, I said, ma'am, I just forgot to say, like the Kris Kristofferson song, Sunday Morning Coming Down.

02:21:00.000 That's all I meant by that.

02:21:01.000 And I think she said, I called, I text Willie.

02:21:05.000 He sent me the best reply.

02:21:07.000 He goes... 1.00

02:21:08.000 He goes, it's okay to step on your dick, just don't stand on it. 1.00

02:21:13.000 I called Jessie Coulter, and she goes, Luke, what did you mean in the interview? 1.00

02:21:19.000 And I told her.

02:21:20.000 And she goes, Waylon stopped doing print interview.

02:21:27.000 But by then, the narrative started.

02:21:32.000 And since then, I can always tell that if that one little thing, I probably would have kept that whole base.

02:21:43.000 And then the, oh my god, he wears tight jeans and he must, you know, he must homosexual on the side, you know, as I'm posing with my, you know, my all-American family. 0.87

02:21:56.000 I think it's probably a thing also they think Hollywood has invaded country music, which is always a big threat because there's so much money in country music that they think these Hollywood executives that don't understand or appreciate real country Are going to come in and make something inauthentic.

02:22:12.000 So then they hear you saying that, get misrepresented, and then they take it as a part of all of that, right?

02:22:18.000 Joe, so my album came out.

02:22:20.000 I worked on an album for three years.

02:22:24.000 It's called Mind of a Country Boy, and I put it out like 1st of October. 0.99

02:22:29.000 And I didn't want to put the damn album out. 0.95

02:22:34.000 Because the reality is I'm not at the height. 0.99

02:22:38.000 Every artist hits their peak.

02:22:40.000 You know it.

02:22:41.000 I mean, I sold out.

02:22:42.000 I was selling out football stadiums first day.

02:22:45.000 Three or four years I did it.

02:22:47.000 I know that's my peak, probably.

02:22:49.000 I know it is. 1.00

02:22:50.000 Fuck, I'm not going to even say probably. 1.00

02:22:52.000 I'm a realist. 1.00

02:22:53.000 Well, so we put the album out, and I said, you know what?

02:22:57.000 No albums sell...

02:22:59.000 Nothing sells anymore.

02:23:01.000 So I knew there was going to be a negative take on the album.

02:23:04.000 I knew something negative would come by me putting the album out based on it may not sell.

02:23:08.000 And it sold what it did.

02:23:11.000 It did what I thought it'd do as me being the artist where I'm at in my life.

02:23:15.000 Especially in this world of streaming.

02:23:17.000 Right.

02:23:17.000 Nothing's buying anymore.

02:23:18.000 Nothing's buying.

02:23:19.000 Dude, I did 40 hours of all the stuff. 0.99

02:23:30.000 What's happened is, because of online advertising being the primary source of income for news, they have to do clickbait shit. 0.92

02:23:37.000 They have to distort things. 0.98

02:23:38.000 And then they have editors that don't give a shit about anything other than the bottom line.

02:23:42.000 So you get a writer, even if the writer's a good person. 0.96

02:23:44.000 I've had writers that I know have written about people that I know, and they told me that their editor came in and changed things.

02:23:51.000 They told me their editor came in to deposit things up. 0.99

02:23:52.000 Because the editor's ass is about to get canned. 1.00

02:23:55.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

02:23:56.000 Because his company just got bought by a big conglomerate.

02:24:00.000 Exactly. 1.00

02:24:02.000 That's why artists should just stay away from that shit. 1.00

02:24:04.000 Well, and I knew it. 1.00

02:24:06.000 What sucks... 0.98

02:24:08.000 Dude, you know it. 0.99

02:24:10.000 You know when you're getting baited.

02:24:12.000 You can see it coming a mile away.

02:24:14.000 You have to film everything you do, every conversation you have with someone.

02:24:18.000 You should film them all so that no one can take you out of context. 1.00

02:24:21.000 And then if anything goes wrong, say that guy's full of shit. 1.00

02:24:23.000 This is what I said. 1.00

02:24:24.000 And then I did.

02:24:26.000 And then maybe even make a video.

02:24:27.000 I did.

02:24:28.000 And those people should be shamed.

02:24:30.000 I hate it. 0.99

02:24:30.000 It's a terrible, evil, ugly thing you do. 0.99

02:24:33.000 You crush people's perspective.

02:24:35.000 You change how the world looks at people just for clickbait.

02:24:39.000 And it could genuinely affect someone's life and career.

02:24:42.000 Dude, man, listen.

02:24:44.000 You know the deal.

02:24:45.000 I mean, I grew up in South Georgia.

02:24:48.000 And, you know, we've raised our dang kids, like, colorblind.

02:24:53.000 It's so awesome.

02:24:55.000 I'm so proud of their colorblindness.

02:24:58.000 Isn't it funny that that is a negative thing to say today?

02:25:01.000 That people don't like that idea?

02:25:03.000 Did I just say something negative?

02:25:04.000 Yeah, there's a lot of people that don't think you should be colorblind.

02:25:07.000 They think that that's a lie.

02:25:10.000 You should think that way.

02:25:11.000 That was what we were all working towards until about 2012. Have you ever seen the numbers?

02:25:17.000 I'm going to send you this, Jamie, because this is what people need to understand.

02:25:20.000 A lot of what we're all experiencing is manipulation, and a lot of this manipulation might not even be from our own country.

02:25:30.000 A lot of this manipulation is what happens when you have foreign entities that are manipulating people Oh yeah, that's it. 0.54

02:25:38.000 Thank you.

02:25:38.000 Look at that, Jamie.

02:25:39.000 You're the best.

02:25:40.000 Yearly mentions of prejudice in popular U.S. news media outlets.

02:25:44.000 Now look at what happens.

02:25:46.000 Look at this crazy spike.

02:25:48.000 So you have everything from 1970 until you have like 1990. See, what's going on in 1990?

02:25:57.000 Between 80 and 90, you have cable.

02:25:59.000 Okay? 1.00

02:26:00.000 So now you have people that need more eyes on their shit. 1.00

02:26:03.000 So you have Fox News. 1.00

02:26:05.000 You have a lot of this...

02:26:06.000 People get a little bit more jazzed up.

02:26:09.000 Look at transphobia. 0.99

02:26:11.000 You never even heard what the fuck that was until 2010. Look how it just jumps up in 2020. 1990 didn't exist. 0.99

02:26:20.000 1980 didn't exist.

02:26:22.000 Islamophobia, same deal.

02:26:24.000 Anti-Semitism.

02:26:25.000 Scroll all the way up to the top though, Jamie.

02:26:27.000 Look at racism.

02:26:29.000 Racism is essentially fairly steady until around 2012, and then it goes on this wild ramp straight up.

02:26:40.000 The New York Times from 2010 to 2020, it goes up 712%.

02:26:46.000 Los Angeles Times, 756%.

02:26:50.000 It just skyrockets all the mention of racism.

02:26:53.000 Why?

02:26:53.000 Because no one wants racism.

02:26:55.000 No one wants to be racist.

02:26:57.000 Everyone's scared of being called racist.

02:26:58.000 And all the race hustlers love to call people racist.

02:27:02.000 So it becomes a commodity.

02:27:03.000 So people start trading in racism.

02:27:06.000 And this idea that you shouldn't be colorblind and that you should recognize race.

02:27:11.000 You should recognize color.

02:27:13.000 Stop! 1.00

02:27:14.000 We were on a good path to what Martin Luther King said, judging people based on the content of their character.

02:27:20.000 We were on that path. 0.99

02:27:21.000 And social media and manipulation fucked us. 0.55

02:27:25.000 And hopefully we realize what happened now and I think there'll be a downward trend and people will sort of like wake up. 0.91

02:27:31.000 And I think that's one thing that is balancing out right now with the internet is enough people realize they've been manipulated.

02:27:38.000 So it's starting to like calm down. 0.98

02:27:41.000 A lot of this woke shit starting to die off. 0.96

02:27:43.000 And people are coming to their senses. 0.99

02:27:45.000 Like everybody just woke up from a fever dream.

02:27:48.000 But as far as your situation and dealing with the media, don't.

02:27:52.000 Oh, I know.

02:27:52.000 Just don't.

02:27:53.000 But when you're so dang, you know the deal. 0.97

02:27:55.000 You're naive. 0.96

02:27:56.000 You're a little bit naive because you're a nice guy.

02:27:58.000 But it's because you're a good person. 0.84

02:28:00.000 That's why you're naive.

02:28:01.000 You assume other people are good people.

02:28:02.000 Man, what's amazing is when I'm on American Idol at that desk. 0.99

02:28:07.000 And I've been doing it for nine damn years. 0.95

02:28:09.000 And I have cried with everybody. 0.98

02:28:12.000 When those kids come in, they are...

02:28:15.000 Everybody walking through that door is a microcosm of America.

02:28:20.000 And, man, I've sat there and loved and loved and learned.

02:28:25.000 Do you enjoy doing that, like seeing new talent pop up?

02:28:28.000 Nothing is more amazing...

02:28:35.000 We're good to go. 0.99

02:28:52.000 That the doctor family can't wrap their head around my child wanting to go try this fucking music thing. 1.00

02:29:01.000 What? 1.00

02:29:01.000 We're doctors. 1.00

02:29:03.000 We're doctors.

02:29:05.000 And man, when they branch out and the family gets behind them and then they go and follow their dreams and man, it's really...

02:29:14.000 It doesn't get old.

02:29:15.000 I mean, listen, it's a fun chair to be in.

02:29:18.000 It's a fun chair to be in because that door opens and it's a life that comes in and you don't know what the hell.

02:29:27.000 We have a note or two, like, just lost their father to cancer three months ago from a small town.

02:29:35.000 But other than that, man, we don't know what they're going to do and how they're going to react.

02:29:38.000 And it's pretty cool.

02:29:40.000 I mean, you know, when I had just moved to Nashville when American Idol was...

02:29:49.000 Just, I mean, 40 million viewers a week.

02:29:53.000 And the tone in Nashville is, that's the cheap route to get famous.

02:29:59.000 Because I came up through, you've got to play a thousand nightclubs.

02:30:03.000 You've got to go through, you've got to meet the record labels.

02:30:08.000 You've got to do the radio.

02:30:09.000 You've got to go meet everybody at radio.

02:30:11.000 So the whole town of Nashville was like, well, it's not totally fair that they just pop on TV. And skip all the...

02:30:21.000 But now, I mean, now, all that's gone, which is great.

02:30:26.000 Well, here's an example.

02:30:27.000 Oliver Anthony.

02:30:28.000 Totally.

02:30:29.000 Oliver Anthony has one song he releases.

02:30:32.000 It's the most...

02:30:33.000 Pull up that song. 1.00

02:30:34.000 Because this fucking song, this dude releases it. 1.00

02:30:38.000 It's just a camera and him with his guitar. 1.00

02:30:40.000 When I heard it... 0.99

02:30:42.000 I was like, holy shit, that's fucking amazing, and holy shit, that guy better have some songs to come behind it. 1.00

02:30:50.000 Yeah, well, he's a talented motherfucker. 1.00

02:30:52.000 He is. 0.99

02:30:52.000 A very, very bright man. 0.99

02:30:54.000 And it's what life should...

02:30:56.000 Listen to that. 0.99

02:31:01.000 Bullshit play so I can sit out here and waste my life away. 1.00

02:31:06.000 Drag back home and drown my troubles. 1.00

02:31:10.000 Damn shame. 1.00

02:31:13.000 Listen to that. 1.00

02:31:14.000 This dude was selling equipment.

02:31:18.000 He'd never even done a concert.

02:31:20.000 First concert he does is like 18,000 people at a state fair.

02:31:25.000 And he's as genuine as you can.

02:31:28.000 You've had him on here, correct?

02:31:29.000 I had him on here and I actually gave him advice.

02:31:31.000 How did he do?

02:31:32.000 He did great because I gave him advice before I met him because he was in the middle of all this and he goes, hey man, he goes, can I talk to you?

02:31:38.000 So we talked on the phone.

02:31:39.000 I'm like, what's up?

02:31:40.000 He's like, man, I'm getting all these offers from all these people.

02:31:43.000 They want to buy this and buy that.

02:31:44.000 They want to give me seven million dollars if I do this and sign that.

02:31:47.000 I said, stay independent.

02:31:50.000 I go, you have talent.

02:31:51.000 Everyone's saying I have to act now. 1.00

02:31:53.000 I go, fuck those people. 1.00

02:31:54.000 I go, you don't have to act now. 1.00

02:31:55.000 That's famine thinking.

02:31:56.000 I go, you're talented, man.

02:31:58.000 I had heard a couple of his other songs as well. 0.99

02:32:00.000 He's fucking talented. 0.99

02:32:02.000 And he's genuine. 1.00

02:32:04.000 And I go, you can't fake that.

02:32:06.000 Just stay independent, man, because they're not going to offer you anything.

02:32:10.000 The reason why they want to give you a lot of money is because they're going to make way more than they're going to give you.

02:32:15.000 That's the only reason why they want to give you money.

02:32:17.000 They want a piece of you before you become one of the biggest stars in the world.

02:32:20.000 And then they own a chunk of you forever because they gave you $7 million when you didn't have any money.

02:32:26.000 They go, just bank on yourself, man.

02:32:28.000 Yeah, and the beauty of...

02:32:31.000 Idol is...

02:32:32.000 And guys like this, there's so many avenues now.

02:32:36.000 You can go the old-fashioned route.

02:32:37.000 You can go the quick route.

02:32:39.000 You can go the idle route.

02:32:40.000 You can go stream on...

02:32:42.000 You can go video yourself on all your social platforms, and the right song can blow you up.

02:32:47.000 And then you've got to go do the real work.

02:32:50.000 You've got to do the real work.

02:32:50.000 You've got to have other bullets in your chamber.

02:32:53.000 That's what we tell the kids on Idol now. 0.98

02:32:56.000 I think when Idol was really, really, obviously, when Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood won, and even people after that, they went their ass to work, too. 0.96

02:33:09.000 It's an insane opportunity.

02:33:11.000 These kids on Idol now, they love seeing their social media platforms go up a thousand percent, and it's worth it.

02:33:20.000 There's going to be bumps in the road, and there's going to be a group of people saying American Idol may exploit these kids.

02:33:35.000 Man, I'm in the back, I'm behind the scenes on everything, and man, we won't, you know, they won't, when we get a kid that we love, man, we sit around, we go to dinner, and we talk about that kid and love him.

02:33:50.000 And I think, you know, these kids leave it going, man, that was a great experience for them.

02:33:57.000 I hope so.

02:33:59.000 I'm sure they do.

02:34:00.000 And it is an insane opportunity.

02:34:02.000 If you want to be a professional musician and you want to make a career out of it, it's one of the most unbelievable moments.

02:34:08.000 You've got to do your path.

02:34:11.000 My path was my path and it was unique to mine.

02:34:14.000 And because yours is different, that don't mean I need to hate you for it. 0.99

02:34:18.000 There's a lot of that shit with comedians today, too. 1.00

02:34:20.000 Oh! 0.99

02:34:21.000 Because a comedian will have one clip, or he's doing some crowd work, or one clip of one bit that everybody loves, and then all of a sudden he's selling out, and everybody's like, that guy...

02:34:29.000 And he only had one good joke.

02:34:30.000 Yeah, he's only been around for three years.

02:34:32.000 But so what?

02:34:34.000 Let him run with it.

02:34:35.000 Let him run with it.

02:34:37.000 You know, we're living in a new world.

02:34:41.000 It's like the song.

02:34:42.000 It is a new world.

02:34:44.000 Why wouldn't we all want someone else to win?

02:34:46.000 Right.

02:34:48.000 What is wrong...

02:34:50.000 What's wrong with people winning?

02:34:52.000 It's like you have figured out how to feed yourself with a guitar.

02:34:59.000 You've figured out how to tell jokes and make a living. 0.99

02:35:06.000 And you know, like I said, dude, I won't even post my damn deer I killed. 0.97

02:35:12.000 Because I don't want to get online and be there with a glass of wine at 3 a.m. 0.99

02:35:17.000 and start motherfucking people. 1.00

02:35:20.000 Like, dude, I want to kill them. 1.00

02:35:30.000 Like I said, you get over it, you get over it, but man, it pisses you off. 0.99

02:35:35.000 I don't read anything.

02:35:36.000 I tell everybody, don't read anything.

02:35:39.000 Don't read anything about you.

02:35:40.000 Just don't.

02:35:41.000 Don't read the good stuff.

02:35:42.000 Don't read the bad stuff.

02:35:43.000 I do good with it.

02:35:44.000 I mean, hell, I'm sitting here with a 48-year-old man. 1.00

02:35:47.000 My shit's in the bank, but it still makes you mad. 1.00

02:35:50.000 It still makes you mad. 1.00

02:35:51.000 It doesn't matter, even if you're undeniable.

02:35:53.000 It doesn't matter.

02:35:54.000 It's a human instinct to read negative things and get upset.

02:35:58.000 Because humans always had to worry about threats.

02:36:01.000 And if the threats were other tribes or predators or whatever...

02:36:05.000 You had to attack that threat.

02:36:06.000 So we're mentally conditioned to look for threats.

02:36:10.000 Fight or flight or something.

02:36:12.000 If you have a hundred people who love you, but one that hates you...

02:36:17.000 That one is the one you're going to think about.

02:36:18.000 You're not going to think about all the people that they say you're awesome.

02:36:20.000 You're going to think about that one that hates you.

02:36:22.000 And then you have to think about the kind of people that post comments. 0.97

02:36:25.000 Most of the people who post comments are miserable people.

02:36:27.000 Not the positive comments, but the negative comments.

02:36:30.000 I started a thing, you know, and I know you've got people in your world where... 1.00

02:36:36.000 Man, you know, there's assholes and you'll huddle up and you'll spend an hour talking about how you can't believe how big an asshole that person is. 1.00

02:36:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:36:46.000 And I'm like, guys, we're 15 minutes in on talking about this person being an asshole. 1.00

02:36:51.000 We wasted 15 minutes of our life. 1.00

02:36:53.000 We wasted 15 minutes on us trying to figure out why can't they stop being an asshole? 1.00

02:37:00.000 You basically wasted one one-hundredth of your day. 1.00

02:37:03.000 On somebody that sucks. 1.00

02:37:06.000 You only get 100 of those 15 minutes in a day, and you wasted one talking about a shithead. 1.00

02:37:10.000 It's a mess. 0.99

02:37:11.000 But it's a normal thing that people do.

02:37:13.000 You just gotta not do it.

02:37:14.000 You gotta realize that this is a new world.

02:37:16.000 And I've gotten conscious where when I see other buddies doing it, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

02:37:21.000 Get out of there.

02:37:22.000 Yeah.

02:37:23.000 Man.

02:37:23.000 I recognized it when I was on television before social media.

02:37:27.000 There was a thing called, there was these Hollywood magazines, like Variety and the Hollywood Reporter, and I would always call them the Devil's Rag, because I would get to the set of the TV show and everybody was reading the Devil's Rag.

02:37:42.000 They were all like, oh, I can't believe they're number two.

02:37:45.000 We should be number one.

02:37:46.000 We should be right after Friends.

02:37:48.000 Oh.

02:37:49.000 Everybody was upset.

02:37:50.000 And I was like, you guys are, I'm on TV. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you people. 0.99

02:37:55.000 I'm on television. 0.99

02:37:57.000 I can't believe I'm on TV. You guys are upset that we're number 30 instead of number 2 or whatever the fuck it is. 0.99

02:38:03.000 Can't we just appreciate the fact that this is back when there was only like five networks.

02:38:07.000 Can't we appreciate the fact that we're one of the luckiest human beings that have ever lived? 0.97

02:38:11.000 We're on a fucking television show and yet you're reading these magazines. 0.97

02:38:15.000 And it's like, is it Thomas Jefferson who wrote that quote, comparison is a thief of joy? 0.99

02:38:20.000 But whoever was that?

02:38:21.000 Was it Jefferson?

02:38:22.000 I know we know who it is.

02:38:23.000 We've read it before, but that quote is so accurate.

02:38:27.000 Comparison.

02:38:28.000 That's why billionaires...

02:38:29.000 I know a dude is worth like a billion and a half dollars, and he thinks he's broke because he's friends with like Jeff Bezos.

02:38:37.000 I do not get into that.

02:38:39.000 You cannot get into that world.

02:38:41.000 You can't win! 1.00

02:38:42.000 You can't win because you're in a crazy fucking numbers... 0.99

02:38:46.000 It doesn't mean anything. 0.99

02:38:48.000 You're not even enjoying what you have.

02:38:50.000 So my wife, for her 40th birthday, man, I surprised her and I rented her. 0.81

02:38:57.000 Never done anything.

02:38:58.000 We rented like a 120-foot boat and took all our college friends down to St. Bart's for New Year's.

02:39:05.000 Have you ever heard of this scene?

02:39:07.000 No.

02:39:08.000 Dude!

02:39:09.000 Is it crazy?

02:39:12.000 Joe, so first of all, I mean, this boat that we got is a 120-foot Westport.

02:39:21.000 Beautiful.

02:39:22.000 We get the same boat. 0.99

02:39:22.000 I didn't know what the fuck we were doing. 0.99

02:39:24.000 Oh, you're in the yacht world. 0.97

02:39:26.000 Okay.

02:39:26.000 So you're entering into these worlds of 200-foot boats, 250-foot boats.

02:39:30.000 The oligarchs.

02:39:31.000 Yeah, okay.

02:39:33.000 Yeah, I've seen that before.

02:39:34.000 And it's in St. Bart's and they all float there for New Year's. 0.56

02:39:39.000 And it's all dick measuring contests. 0.91

02:39:42.000 Dude.

02:39:43.000 And my captain of that little boat, which that boat looked like, our boat that we were on looked like their shuttle boats.

02:39:52.000 Right.

02:39:53.000 And my captain, I said, did you ever pilot one of those?

02:39:56.000 He goes, oh yeah.

02:39:58.000 He goes, I said, what were they doing on there?

02:40:01.000 He goes, looking at the other boats, wondering. 0.99

02:40:06.000 I was on a fucking billion dollar yacht and pissed at the other billion dollar yacht. 0.99

02:40:10.000 Yeah, that's real. 0.99

02:40:11.000 They're all in competition with each other and they're all hating.

02:40:13.000 You know, and I'm entering in, yeah, you just got to get your little world, like my little world now.

02:40:19.000 Keep it tight.

02:40:20.000 My little Tennessee hunting world, I tell people all the time.

02:40:24.000 They're like, come on down to my ranch.

02:40:27.000 I'm like, man, I got my little deal.

02:40:30.000 Yeah, it's enough.

02:40:31.000 Stay sane.

02:40:33.000 Keep it tight.

02:40:34.000 What are they doing on that boat, Captain?

02:40:35.000 Isn't that nuts? 0.99

02:40:36.000 Imagine being on a 250-foot yacht, looking at the dude on the 300-foot yacht, going, God damn it. 0.98

02:40:41.000 I got to upgrade. 0.86

02:40:43.000 I was talking to a dude who pilots yachts, and he was telling me that they always want to sell them.

02:40:47.000 They always want to sell them and get another one.

02:40:49.000 He goes, all these yachts are always almost for sale.

02:40:51.000 I go, how come?

02:40:52.000 He goes, because they always want another yacht.

02:40:54.000 They always want a bigger yacht. 0.95

02:40:59.000 It's a trap!

02:41:00.000 It's a giant trap!

02:41:01.000 Imagine having all that money, you're not even appreciating it, because you're worried about making more?

02:41:06.000 Remember when we were kids?

02:41:08.000 If you said, like, what would you do if you had a million dollars?

02:41:10.000 Meh, it'd never work again! 0.99

02:41:12.000 I'd fucking just... 0.98

02:41:13.000 Well, you know, I remember dreaming. 0.98

02:41:16.000 Did you lay in bed and just be like, I remember dreaming about trying to do it and how I was going to...

02:41:24.000 How you going to get rich?

02:41:25.000 How am I going to get...

02:41:26.000 I wouldn't say rich.

02:41:28.000 How am I going to be able to have my own bass pond?

02:41:32.000 Right.

02:41:32.000 Because I would have to call other people and get permission.

02:41:35.000 Right.

02:41:35.000 And that dude, the anxiety of calling an old farmer.

02:41:38.000 Right.

02:41:39.000 Going, hey, you know, Farmer Johnson, can I go fish your bass lake?

02:41:43.000 I don't know, Luke.

02:41:45.000 Not today.

02:41:46.000 I'd be like...

02:41:48.000 And so, I remember doing that, and then when you start achieving it, man, I still, I mean, I don't think I'm living in that world of, like, the other digging.

02:42:00.000 You know, I think you can for a minute.

02:42:02.000 Yeah.

02:42:03.000 I think you can for a little bit.

02:42:05.000 But it's a trap.

02:42:06.000 It is a trap.

02:42:07.000 And the problem is it's all numbers.

02:42:10.000 It's like, you know how dudes are crazy with deer?

02:42:12.000 Like, I want a 200-inch deer.

02:42:14.000 200-inch mule deer.

02:42:15.000 You can't do that.

02:42:15.000 I want a 400-inch elk.

02:42:17.000 They get crazy with numbers.

02:42:18.000 I talked to this dude who worked on a ranch, and they have a big elk on this ranch, and he said, sometimes the hunters are really happy with an elk, and then they'll put a tape to it and measure it, and it's 396, and they get bummed out, because it's not 400. I'm like, those people are sick. 0.93

02:42:33.000 You should never have them here again. 1.00

02:42:34.000 You should ban them.

02:42:36.000 They should never be allowed to be here again. 0.97

02:42:37.000 That's a sickness.

02:42:38.000 But that's what happens with these people with everything, man.

02:42:41.000 I never had a dream of being wealthy.

02:42:44.000 It was never a dream.

02:42:45.000 It was never even in my imagination did I ever think I was going to be rich.

02:42:51.000 I never even thought about it.

02:42:53.000 When I started doing stand-up comedy, my dream was to be a professional, because I always had jobs.

02:42:58.000 My dream was to be able to pay my bills with comedy.

02:43:01.000 I looked at all the dudes.

02:43:03.000 That was...

02:43:04.000 Now, my dream...

02:43:06.000 Let me make sure I didn't steer you wrong on that.

02:43:09.000 My dream was to do these things out of being driven.

02:43:15.000 Like, when I moved to Nashville, I wrote on a chalkboard, write a number one song.

02:43:20.000 You know, win a CMA award.

02:43:24.000 Oh, you had a vision board?

02:43:26.000 I had a little vision board.

02:43:27.000 Nice.

02:43:28.000 But I didn't understand, I didn't really comprehend the money after that, because I didn't know it.

02:43:35.000 And I didn't know, like...

02:43:37.000 Like, people are like, I'm a big Georgia Bulldog fan.

02:43:40.000 And they're like, did you go to Georgia?

02:43:42.000 And I'm like...

02:43:43.000 Buddy, me going to the University of Georgia when I was 18 years old, I mean, I barely, my dad barely got the money for me to go to the community college 12 minutes down the road.

02:43:56.000 So going to Georgia didn't...

02:43:59.000 Wasn't even a thought.

02:43:59.000 I didn't even put it in there.

02:44:01.000 Right.

02:44:01.000 So, go ahead.

02:44:03.000 I'm just saying that when I see people, that's all they care about is the money.

02:44:08.000 And then they're always thinking about the richness and the money.

02:44:11.000 I just think it's a trap.

02:44:13.000 And the problem is, if you're always comparing yourself to other people, you're not going to enjoy what you have.

02:44:18.000 You're not going to enjoy this experience, temporary experience of life.

02:44:21.000 Right.

02:44:21.000 Because it is temporary.

02:44:23.000 It's so quick.

02:44:24.000 I'm 57 years old. 0.99

02:44:25.000 How the fuck did that happen? 0.99

02:44:26.000 All of a sudden, you just keep getting older. 1.00

02:44:29.000 And then, you know, one day you're dead.

02:44:32.000 And I bet on your deathbed, you're like, how did it happen so quick?

02:44:36.000 How did it happen so quick?

02:44:38.000 What are you doing with your time?

02:44:40.000 And are you enjoying it?

02:44:41.000 And I think you need things outside of what you do that you love.

02:44:45.000 And like for you and I, I think it's hunting and the outdoors.

02:44:50.000 Because I think it balances you.

02:44:51.000 I think there's something very spiritual about it.

02:44:54.000 I think there's something just being in the woods.

02:44:56.000 It's a very spiritual experience, like a real spiritual experience.

02:45:00.000 I think it's like a vitamin that you don't know you need until you get it.

02:45:04.000 And when you get it, you feel better.

02:45:06.000 When I'm out there, I feel better.

02:45:08.000 I just feel better.

02:45:09.000 The air is cleaner.

02:45:10.000 I feel more in touch with being alive.

02:45:12.000 It just feels better.

02:45:14.000 And I'm not thinking about anything else.

02:45:17.000 If I'm elk hunting, I'm not thinking about...

02:45:19.000 Jokes.

02:45:20.000 I'm not thinking about podcasts, guests. 0.99

02:45:22.000 I'm not thinking about jack shit. 0.94

02:45:24.000 I'm just thinking about what I'm doing. 0.99

02:45:26.000 That's it.

02:45:26.000 And it's very difficult to do, and you have to really focus, and you're thinking about it, and you're always trying to improve, and that alone is good for your brain.

02:45:36.000 It's good for your wife.

02:45:38.000 I lost my brother and my sister, and my sister's husband passed away.

02:45:47.000 I lost my brother at 26, my sister at 39, and her husband died at 45. Man, it is present.

02:45:59.000 The daily appreciation of this deal is visually present.

02:46:06.000 Isn't that crazy about people though?

02:46:07.000 It's like you almost need to lose something to be able to appreciate what you have.

02:46:11.000 Well, and I tell people, man, you know, you meet, I tell people, man, really be careful because if you make it to 80, you're going to get popped with something.

02:46:24.000 I don't think you can get through this thing Like some kind of a disease or something?

02:46:29.000 No, no.

02:46:30.000 I'm saying you're going to lose something.

02:46:32.000 You're going to lose something, dear.

02:46:33.000 You're not going to get through A to Z without really a hard loss.

02:46:42.000 No, that's just a part of life.

02:46:44.000 But some people, man, they're just...

02:46:46.000 Delusional.

02:46:47.000 They just...

02:46:49.000 Well, they're delusional, and then a lot of people are medicated, too. 0.99

02:46:52.000 So they don't even know what the fuck is going on while they're living this life. 0.96

02:46:55.000 They're living this life under the influence of the pharmaceutical drug companies, and they're just floating through life in a haze. 0.99

02:47:01.000 And they don't even know what's happening while it's happening.

02:47:04.000 And then they get to the end.

02:47:06.000 And then what'd you do?

02:47:07.000 What'd you do?

02:47:08.000 Did you help people?

02:47:09.000 Did you make people feel better?

02:47:10.000 Did you inspire people?

02:47:12.000 Did you enrich people's lives?

02:47:15.000 What'd you do?

02:47:16.000 You know? 0.98

02:47:16.000 And then you have to realize, like, God damn, I wasted a lot of time reading comments. 0.98

02:47:21.000 Thank you! 0.98

02:47:23.000 Thank you for doing that! 1.00

02:47:25.000 I wasted a lot of time getting mad at assholes. 0.97

02:47:27.000 I don't do it bad, though. 0.99

02:47:29.000 That's what's funny.

02:47:30.000 I don't do it bad.

02:47:31.000 Everybody says that.

02:47:32.000 Everybody says they don't look at their phone.

02:47:33.000 They go, let me see your screen time.

02:47:34.000 Like, six hours?

02:47:36.000 Six hours. 1.00

02:47:36.000 Jesus, bitch. 1.00

02:47:37.000 What the fuck are you doing? 1.00

02:47:39.000 Oh, Lord. 1.00

02:47:40.000 Yeah, man.

02:47:41.000 I mean...

02:47:42.000 Well, we're all—this is a new world, too, in terms of that.

02:47:45.000 I keep saying this is a new world, but this really is a new element to our lives, is this social media element.

02:47:51.000 And I think there's not a lot of stuff that's written on it where people understand how to manage it.

02:47:59.000 We're learning real time.

02:48:00.000 We're the lab rats.

02:48:01.000 We really are.

02:48:02.000 Especially our kids. 0.99

02:48:04.000 Our kids really are the lab rats. 0.98

02:48:05.000 The kids really are. 0.99

02:48:07.000 And not just that, also access to violence.

02:48:10.000 They see so much violence.

02:48:11.000 They see so much online that's horrible.

02:48:14.000 I think about this all the time.

02:48:19.000 I would go stay with a buddy.

02:48:23.000 At his house, and he go, man, I rented Faces of Death.

02:48:29.000 Remember those?

02:48:30.000 I wouldn't watch them.

02:48:32.000 I'd be like, man, my parents told me not to watch that.

02:48:36.000 He go, what?

02:48:37.000 You don't want to watch this guy get electrocuted? 0.99

02:48:39.000 And I'm like, fuck no, I don't want to watch a dude get electrocuted. 0.99

02:48:44.000 Dude, we're watching people... 0.99

02:48:48.000 We're watching people...

02:48:50.000 Yeah, if you're on Instagram, you're seeing people dying.

02:48:55.000 Every...

02:48:56.000 Every day. 1.00

02:48:57.000 Every day I have friends that send me horrible shit. 1.00

02:49:00.000 I mean, legs breaking. 1.00

02:49:00.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:49:01.000 I mean, I remember Joe Theismann.

02:49:03.000 When Joe Theismann broke his leg.

02:49:06.000 Dude, it like shut the country down.

02:49:09.000 Yeah.

02:49:10.000 I know, now that's nothing.

02:49:11.000 And now it's like...

02:49:12.000 That's nothing.

02:49:13.000 I watched a dude on a diving board and his foot fell in a crack and the diving board had an opening in it and he went forward and his knee stayed in the same place and it just snapped his leg the wrong way and he's screaming, hanging from a broken leg.

02:49:27.000 That's just one thing I saw today.

02:49:29.000 I thought you don't do that!

02:49:31.000 I watch things on Instagram.

02:49:34.000 I just don't read comments. 1.00

02:49:35.000 But me and Tom Segura, we send each other the most horrible shit every day. 1.00

02:49:40.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

02:49:43.000 But some days he sends me things I don't even look at them. 0.90

02:49:45.000 I'm like, not today.

02:49:45.000 Oh, I can see it coming, but I do love...

02:49:49.000 I do love the funny, comical aspect of it that gets me and a cup of coffee dying, laughing at some person being a goofball.

02:49:57.000 Or memes.

02:49:58.000 Some memes are some of the best.

02:50:00.000 They got us, though.

02:50:01.000 They got us.

02:50:02.000 Yeah, memes are some of the best comedy out there.

02:50:04.000 And it's just random people create these funny things.

02:50:06.000 There's a lot of funny people out there.

02:50:07.000 What's amazing is we've gotten to where we can see the meme happen and predict the meme and the memes on your phone the next day.

02:50:15.000 And you're like...

02:50:16.000 Within hours.

02:50:17.000 Oh, yeah.

02:50:17.000 They're so quick.

02:50:19.000 And memes are weird because a lot of times you don't even know who made it.

02:50:22.000 You're sharing it.

02:50:22.000 Somebody sends it to you.

02:50:23.000 You send it to other people.

02:50:24.000 Like, who made that?

02:50:26.000 Who's the wizard that figured this out? 0.98

02:50:27.000 It's a fucking hilarious stuff. 0.97

02:50:29.000 It's like a meme factory. 0.98

02:50:31.000 Well, it's like jokes.

02:50:32.000 Remember jokes like, you know, two guys walking to a bar?

02:50:34.000 Those jokes? 0.99

02:50:35.000 Who fucking wrote those? 0.99

02:50:36.000 We don't know, but some of them were bangers. 0.99

02:50:38.000 And they spread.

02:50:39.000 They just spread.

02:50:39.000 Spread across the whole country.

02:50:41.000 But somebody had to be the guy that sat down and tells the story.

02:50:45.000 Two guys walking to a bar.

02:50:46.000 And then, you know, it's everywhere.

02:50:52.000 Well, I mean, there's a million places we can go, but...

02:50:56.000 You know, you look at... 0.99

02:50:59.000 Yeah, I mean, the damn children, my kids, I mean, we're yelling at them every day, get up, get off the phone, get outside. 0.99

02:51:05.000 They do a good job, but man, I think it's just, it's a part of their deal. 0.99

02:51:10.000 They're being influenced by things far beyond our control and way different than anything that any other generation has ever experienced before.

02:51:17.000 Like my son, he's a 16-year-old quarterback.

02:51:24.000 And man, he watches all these other quarterbacks.

02:51:29.000 Hell, there are 14 recruiting download sites.

02:51:36.000 And my son's like, that dude right there is the greatest quarterback in the country.

02:51:41.000 I said, well, how old is he, Bo?

02:51:43.000 He's 15, Dad. 0.99

02:51:44.000 I'm like, Bo, we don't know what that little shit's going to be. 0.99

02:51:50.000 What are you talking about? 0.99

02:51:53.000 He goes, well, Dad, he's a five-star and he's 15. I'm like, Bo, your dad, when I moved to Nashville, I was a one-star country singer.

02:52:03.000 If I'd had a rating next to me and probability of me making it, yeah, it would have been a one-star.

02:52:11.000 I worked myself into, hopefully, a three-star recruit.

02:52:17.000 And he's looking at me like I'm crazy.

02:52:20.000 And so one of those kids...

02:52:23.000 He played them.

02:52:24.000 Now, my son's not starting.

02:52:26.000 He's backup quarterback to a great quarterback.

02:52:29.000 We played them and we beat them.

02:52:31.000 We get down.

02:52:32.000 He gets home after the game.

02:52:33.000 I said, what'd you think about your little savior there?

02:52:39.000 He goes, he's still the greatest quarterback of all time. 1.00

02:52:44.000 I said, Bo, he lost the fucking game! 1.00

02:52:48.000 He's 15! 1.00

02:52:51.000 Son, let's let life happen before we anoint.

02:52:55.000 Just be inspired.

02:52:57.000 Be inspired by other success.

02:52:59.000 But don't take it too seriously.

02:53:01.000 And also recognize that kid might start getting laid and throw it all away.

02:53:05.000 Exactly.

02:53:05.000 He don't know what's going to...

02:53:08.000 Yeah, you're 15, you don't know what the fuck's coming your way. 0.99

02:53:10.000 You don't know one, yeah. 0.99

02:53:12.000 Yeah, you're running into some Russian chip in your English class. 0.83

02:53:15.000 Yeah, some new Russian exchange student that needs an English tutor.

02:53:20.000 Yeah, and then all of a sudden you don't have any sperm left in your body and you're dehydrated all day long.

02:53:24.000 Yeah, you're getting electrolytes on the sideline.

02:53:27.000 You're not doing any off-season running or lifting.

02:53:30.000 You're busy.

02:53:32.000 Oh, man.

02:53:33.000 Also, people just, they lose the focus, you know?

02:53:35.000 And sometimes they get pushed too hard by their parents.

02:53:38.000 There's a little bit of that, too.

02:53:40.000 The kids rebel.

02:53:41.000 They don't want to do it anymore.

02:53:42.000 Anything can happen.

02:53:43.000 But that's what's fascinating about life, is that it's all open.

02:53:47.000 Your daughters are how old now?

02:53:50.000 28, 16, and 14. Yeah, the 16 and 14, man.

02:53:54.000 The 16 and 14 are going through a totally different experience.

02:53:57.000 The TikTok, all girls. 1.00

02:53:58.000 Yeah, but girls are way, I mean, I just... 1.00

02:54:02.000 They're way more influenced in a negative way.

02:54:04.000 My heart aches for girls in this... 0.98

02:54:08.000 Well, there's some alarming statistics about the growth of social media from like 2009, where you see girls with self-harm, all sorts of psychological conditions, online bullying... 0.99

02:54:22.000 Because girls are fucking vicious to each other online. 1.00

02:54:24.000 Boys will run into each other and punch each other in the face. 0.99

02:54:26.000 But girls will attack each other's character, and they're reputation destroyers. 1.00

02:54:32.000 And they love to make up stories about girls, and be mean about girls, and talk shit about the way girls look, and the way girls dress, and the guys girls are dating, and they do it to each other. 0.89

02:54:42.000 It's unfortunate, but that's what gossip used to be. 0.98

02:54:45.000 Gossip used to just be talking, though.

02:54:47.000 It's like a normal thing where girls get around and talk, but now they talk online. 0.98

02:54:51.000 And when they talk online, then other people read it.

02:54:53.000 And you're ruining people's lives.

02:54:55.000 And you're ruining little girls' lives. 0.99

02:54:57.000 And suicide is off the charts.

02:54:58.000 And self-harm is off the charts.

02:55:01.000 And mostly young girls are getting affected by it.

02:55:04.000 When I have my 14-year-old go, Dad, I'm anxious about this.

02:55:08.000 I'm like, I didn't know the word anxious.

02:55:12.000 Right.

02:55:14.000 I didn't know the word anxious until I was 35 years old.

02:55:19.000 Right?

02:55:20.000 Right, right.

02:55:21.000 It wasn't thought when we were kids in high school.

02:55:23.000 It wasn't processed as anxiety.

02:55:25.000 It was processed as like...

02:55:26.000 Life.

02:55:27.000 Yeah.

02:55:27.000 You get nervous.

02:55:28.000 Yeah.

02:55:28.000 I mean, yeah.

02:55:29.000 I got a big test.

02:55:30.000 My stomach hurts. 1.00

02:55:31.000 I got to go take a shit. 1.00

02:55:32.000 Right, right, right. 1.00

02:55:33.000 Yeah.

02:55:33.000 Right.

02:55:34.000 Now it's the thing they think about all the time.

02:55:35.000 And the problem with that is Abigail Schreier wrote a book about this.

02:55:38.000 You focus on your problems, your problems oftentimes become bigger.

02:55:42.000 When you think about things like anxiety, guess what?

02:55:44.000 It makes you more anxious.

02:55:45.000 It doesn't help it.

02:55:47.000 It actually has the opposite effect.

02:55:51.000 It's a weird world, but they're going to be okay.

02:55:54.000 We're all going to be okay.

02:55:55.000 We're just going to have to adjust and figure it out on the fly.

02:55:57.000 It's just this adjustment is bigger than any adjustment that any generation's ever had to make before.

02:56:03.000 But it's also like, look at things like Oliver Anthony.

02:56:05.000 Good comes out of it too.

02:56:06.000 Yeah.

02:56:07.000 You know, Jelly Roll.

02:56:08.000 Jelly Roll, Jesus.

02:56:09.000 Love that dude.

02:56:10.000 Best thing ever.

02:56:12.000 He's one of my favorite human beings ever.

02:56:13.000 Best thing. 0.99

02:56:15.000 He's such a fucking sweetheart. 0.99

02:56:17.000 Best thing ever. 0.99

02:56:18.000 When that guy sang that song, Save Me, and everybody was like, what is going on? 0.99

02:56:22.000 This fucking ex-con with tattoos on his face with a voice like an angel. 0.99

02:56:27.000 Best thing ever. 1.00

02:56:28.000 Incredible.

02:56:29.000 But this is all possible today, too.

02:56:32.000 So you got good and you got bad.

02:56:34.000 It's just you got to navigate the waters.

02:56:36.000 You got to know where the rocks are.

02:56:38.000 Steer that boat, young sailor. 0.99

02:56:40.000 You know, what amazes me is, man, what breaks my heart is when people think they're all alone in their thing that's hanging up their life.

02:56:53.000 Right.

02:56:54.000 Right.

02:56:54.000 When you meet somebody, and it's all scaled way differently.

02:57:02.000 Like when you meet, you know, I've had people, you know, when you grow up in a country music band and you're on the bus for hours with buddies and everybody goes, they got their own life, and then, man, you find out...

02:57:17.000 I had one band member almost kill himself over something that if he'd have just had somebody say, man, I have that too.

02:57:27.000 Right.

02:57:28.000 Right.

02:57:29.000 And he would have not felt alone.

02:57:31.000 Right.

02:57:32.000 And people have got to quit, like, thinking that they're the only ones that have gone through this thing.

02:57:43.000 Yeah, well, that's why you need people that you love.

02:57:44.000 Yeah.

02:57:45.000 That's why you need friends.

02:57:46.000 See, my household was a man. 0.98

02:57:49.000 We sat at the dinner table, and dude, it came out.

02:57:53.000 I'm talking about...

02:57:54.000 Well, that's good.

02:57:55.000 And then, but my wife's household was, man, they, you know... 0.88

02:57:58.000 Bottled it up?

02:57:59.000 They bottled it up, and it all worked, and we don't know who came out better, but me and my wife, you know, we work on, like...

02:58:09.000 I mean, like, my wife never saw her mama, like, in the shower...

02:58:19.000 Like, just showering, you know, like walk through the house naked.

02:58:22.000 I mean, hell, we had one bathroom. 1.00

02:58:23.000 It was like we were a bunch of damn naked idiots running around trying to get to the bathroom. 1.00

02:58:27.000 And my wife's like, yeah, my mama did not shower with the door open. 1.00

02:58:32.000 And I'm like, or, and I'm like, really?

02:58:36.000 She's like, I'm like, you're kidding me.

02:58:38.000 Never once.

02:58:38.000 I'm like, just, that's kind of crazy.

02:58:41.000 Well, when you have daughters, there's a certain amount of time where you can't be naked in front of them anymore.

02:58:46.000 Once they hit four or five years old, you're like, okay, that's a wrap.

02:58:48.000 My 16-year-old, so my beard, we're living in our guest house right now because we're doing some work to our main house.

02:58:57.000 Our main house had stuff that just kept happening, and we were like...

02:59:02.000 We're moving out, and when we move back in, have it all fixed.

02:59:05.000 So we got a 22-year-old, a 16-year-old living in the same house.

02:59:10.000 When my wife stored all of my bathroom stuff, it's in a box somewhere on my shaving gear.

02:59:16.000 I run into my son's bathroom, my 16-year-old, and I grabbed his beard trimmer. 0.96

02:59:21.000 I grabbed his fucking trimmer sitting there, and I shaved my beard, and I'm all up under my nose. 0.99

02:59:28.000 Do you smell bald hair? 1.00

02:59:29.000 No!

02:59:30.000 No!

02:59:31.000 I get in my truck, and I'm driving down the road, and my son gets home from school crying, laughing.

02:59:38.000 What?

02:59:39.000 Dad!

02:59:40.000 You shaved your beard with my ball trimmers! 1.00

02:59:46.000 And I was like, you little shit. 1.00

02:59:51.000 First of all, I'm like, what in the hell? 1.00

02:59:54.000 16-year-old manscaping? 1.00

02:59:57.000 What the fuck's going on? 1.00

03:00:02.000 It's a new world. 1.00

03:00:03.000 I know!

03:00:04.000 I'm like, dude, I never imagined you had...

03:00:06.000 I don't even think he's...

03:00:07.000 You know, whatever.

03:00:09.000 It's so fun, man.

03:00:10.000 These kids.

03:00:13.000 God, it's so amazing.

03:00:14.000 Dude, we were elk hunting, man.

03:00:17.000 My 14-year-old, we got this really cool...

03:00:21.000 When we go elk hunt, we got to wade across a river to get to our elk spot.

03:00:28.000 And the first couple years, man, we didn't know.

03:00:31.000 We just stripped down to our underwear and hung our boots and all our gear.

03:00:39.000 And walked underwear, and dude, it was kind of like, we're really men, you know?

03:00:45.000 Right.

03:00:45.000 And so Tate and Bo, the first time, I would put him on my shoulders and walk him.

03:00:52.000 Well, then, after two years, we were like, dude, let's go by and get, like, eight pairs of waders and sit them on the bank, and we'll leave the waders, and everybody's like, that's a damn good idea.

03:01:04.000 I'm like, yeah. 0.98

03:01:05.000 I mean, how many years does it take y'all to understand and go get some damn waders? 0.99

03:01:08.000 Right. 0.95

03:01:09.000 So Tate, for the last three years, I've towed him across the river, and man, I looked at him the last day of the hunt, and this was Tate's year to try to get an elk, and he actually, Dad, I kind of messed up the elk hunt.

03:01:25.000 I moved and spooked the elk. 0.98

03:01:26.000 Which was great, because he realized that just because you're Luke Bryan's son, you don't get the damn elk. 0.98

03:01:33.000 And I said, hey, I said, I want to tote you across the river. 0.97

03:01:40.000 I said, you're growing, and this will probably be the last year.

03:01:43.000 So I tote him across the river, and then on the way back, he goes, hey, Dad, I want to wade it by myself.

03:01:48.000 And, man, he...

03:01:52.000 You don't realize how much your kids really are watching you, but we're sitting on the bank, and he's watching me, and I sit my bow down.

03:02:00.000 He takes his bow and sits it down, and he watches everything I do, and it was the cutest thing ever.

03:02:06.000 I haven't even told my wife.

03:02:08.000 So every year, I take my boots, and I tie them in a knot, and I... And I hang them and throw them over my, because we're toting gear, and I throw my boots over my shoulders so they don't get wet.

03:02:19.000 And, man, I looked at him, and he's sitting there tying his little string.

03:02:23.000 He stands up and throws them boots.

03:02:26.000 Man, watching your kids just absorb it is just, you know, it's pretty damn special.

03:02:33.000 Sounds like you're having a beautiful life, my friend.

03:02:35.000 Well, it's, uh...

03:02:37.000 It really does.

03:02:38.000 Kids make it.

03:02:40.000 It really does.

03:02:41.000 It really does.

03:02:42.000 Luke, thank you very much, man.

03:02:43.000 This was a lot of fun.

03:02:44.000 I hope we...

03:02:45.000 How long was that?

03:02:46.000 More than three hours.

03:02:47.000 Was it?

03:02:48.000 Yeah.

03:02:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:02:50.000 Holy shit. 0.99

03:02:51.000 Yeah, it's 4.30. 0.99

03:02:52.000 Three hours.

03:02:53.000 There it is.

03:02:54.000 Mind of a Country Boy.

03:02:55.000 Listen or download now. 1.00

03:02:58.000 Look at you, you handsome bastard. 1.00

03:02:59.000 Well... 1.00

03:03:00.000 Fucking tight jeans. 1.00

03:03:01.000 Look at you. 1.00

03:03:01.000 Tight jeans. 1.00

03:03:02.000 Everybody hates me.

03:03:05.000 They don't hate you, man.

03:03:07.000 Just don't read the ones that do. 1.00

03:03:08.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

03:03:09.000 Appreciate you, brother. 0.97

03:03:10.000 Thank you very much.

03:03:11.000 Love you, too.

03:03:12.000 Love you, too.

03:03:12.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 23, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2216 - Luke Bryan

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