The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2223 - Elon Musk

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00:00:12.000 But if you want to sort of see a vision of the future, it's like basically the top 20 and even the top 100 is like totally dominated by China.

00:00:22.000 Really?

00:00:23.000 Yeah, this is like China and a little bit of Korea and Taiwan.

00:00:26.000 So are you in the top 20 in the world?

00:00:28.000 Yeah.

00:00:28.000 Wow, in Diablo.

00:00:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:00:31.000 Do you want to tell everybody your handle?

00:00:33.000 No, no, don't tell them.

00:00:34.000 Don't tell them.

00:00:35.000 It's not worth it.

00:00:36.000 Well, they actually listed me with my actual name in the list.

00:00:40.000 Oh, did they really?

00:00:42.000 Oh, interesting.

00:00:44.000 But, yeah, there's only two Americans in the top 20. The rest, almost everyone is from Asia otherwise. 0.99

00:00:51.000 We were talking about something that I think is a really good, because people always think that video games are frivolous, but what you were saying I think that's really important is it's so difficult that it requires you to only think about that, and it can, like, relieve stress.

00:01:04.000 Yeah.

00:01:05.000 It can take out the rest of the world, because it's so hard.

00:01:08.000 Yeah.

00:01:08.000 You can only think about that.

00:01:10.000 Yeah, I mean, if I play a video game on extreme difficulty, then I have to concentrate fully on the game.

00:01:15.000 And it has a calming effect.

00:01:18.000 Yeah!

00:01:19.000 It sort of chills down.

00:01:22.000 And, I mean, you mentioned, I think, many people, like, if you play martial arts or you play pool, like, something that forces you...

00:01:29.000 It's like, I think anything that forces you to concentrate fully actually has a calming effect.

00:01:36.000 I find it just sort of like...

00:01:39.000 Kind of a restoring effect.

00:01:42.000 It's good.

00:01:43.000 Jiu-jitsu is like that.

00:01:44.000 Archery is like that as well.

00:01:46.000 Like when you're shooting a bow, there's so many moving things.

00:01:51.000 You have to think only of it, and it cleans the mind.

00:01:54.000 It cleans the mind, yeah, exactly.

00:01:55.000 I was reading a study about surgeons, where they found that surgeons who regularly play video games make less errors.

00:02:04.000 Well, video games require manual dexterity, so it makes sense.

00:02:08.000 Completely makes sense.

00:02:08.000 Actually, if somebody was ever good at video games, I'd say their surgical skill is going to be very good, because in order to be good at video games, any kind of fast reaction video games...

00:02:18.000 Look at this.

00:02:18.000 32% fewer errors, 24% faster, and scored 26% better overall than their non-player colleagues.

00:02:27.000 Oh, I believe that for sure.

00:02:28.000 That's incredible.

00:02:29.000 You should be required in medical school to play video games.

00:02:33.000 Don't you think?

00:02:33.000 If somebody's like a top-ranked video game player and they say they're a surgeon, I'd be like, plus one, plus two type of thing.

00:02:40.000 Oh, top-ranked for sure.

00:02:41.000 But this isn't even top-ranked.

00:02:42.000 This is just people who play.

00:02:43.000 Well, your manual dexterity has to be extremely high.

00:02:46.000 Yes.

00:02:46.000 So you're looking at things on a screen.

00:02:48.000 You're reacting and sometimes you've got like 10 milliseconds to react.

00:02:51.000 Yes.

00:02:52.000 And...

00:02:54.000 And so if somebody's got incredible reaction times and manual dexterity, they're obviously going to be a good surgeon.

00:02:59.000 Imagine if there was a course that you could take.

00:03:02.000 That course would promote, you would be 26% better.

00:03:06.000 Everyone would have to take that course.

00:03:08.000 Why would you want a surgeon that's less prepared?

00:03:11.000 You would say, hey, Bob, did you take this course?

00:03:13.000 You didn't take this course.

00:03:13.000 Don't you understand this course makes you 26% better?

00:03:16.000 You would have to take it.

00:03:18.000 Everyone should have to play video games if you want to be a surgeon.

00:03:21.000 Well, I think it certainly would be a very good test to see if somebody can't play video games well.

00:03:26.000 Because you've got to move both hands simultaneously.

00:03:29.000 You've got to react to something very fast on the screen.

00:03:34.000 And if your keystrokes or your mouse clicks or whatever are wrong, then you lose the game.

00:03:39.000 So if somebody has a good rank in video games, I would say that necessarily their manual dexterity must be extremely good.

00:03:48.000 The fine motor skills have to be excellent.

00:03:50.000 If you think about Starcraft or any game like Quake, any game where a lot of people are playing, to rise to the top, you have to be exceptional, period, as a human being.

00:03:59.000 There has to be something exceptional about you.

00:04:01.000 Actually, if I mention Quake, way back in the day, I was one of the world's best Quake players.

00:04:06.000 I know we talked about this.

00:04:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:07.000 I loved Quake.

00:04:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:09.000 In my final semester in college, I probably put more time into Quake than all my college classes.

00:04:14.000 When I was on news radio, all of the writers were super nerds.

00:04:18.000 They were very, very fun guys.

00:04:19.000 And they had a LAN set up at the studio where they all played Quake.

00:04:23.000 I had never played video games.

00:04:25.000 And I would go in with the writers and just kind of hang out with them. 0.84

00:04:27.000 We'd get silly.

00:04:28.000 And then we would all start playing video games and playing Quake against each other.

00:04:32.000 And I got addicted.

00:04:33.000 Like hardcore.

00:04:34.000 I got a T1 line installed in my house.

00:04:36.000 I went hardcore.

00:04:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:04:39.000 You're checking how many milliseconds of latency you have.

00:04:41.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:41.000 I was fully addicted.

00:04:43.000 I was making my own computers.

00:04:44.000 I was going to Fry's Hardware and buying motherboards and putting everything together.

00:04:50.000 You know, it was too much of a time suck, though.

00:04:54.000 I'm an obsessive person.

00:04:55.000 I can't get involved.

00:04:56.000 Like, I can't play golf.

00:04:57.000 No, golf is too slow for me.

00:04:59.000 I mean, a lot of people find golf good.

00:05:01.000 And I mean, I guess if you think of it like it's, I guess if you're saying you're going to walk outdoors with friends and occasionally hit a ball, and it's an outdoor walk, then that's cool.

00:05:12.000 And it does require concentration when you're hitting the ball, but it's too slow for me.

00:05:17.000 Nothing compares to video games in terms of the amount of feedback you get.

00:05:21.000 The sensory overload you get when you're looking at a large, high-resolution screen.

00:05:27.000 You have a fast computer.

00:05:28.000 You have headphones on.

00:05:30.000 You're hearing sounds from here and sounds behind you and rockets are flying by you.

00:05:36.000 There's nothing like that. 0.53

00:05:37.000 But I think golf still is, like Jamie will tell you, Jamie's an addict.

00:05:41.000 He's a golf nut.

00:05:43.000 It's super addictive.

00:05:44.000 And it takes like eight hours a day.

00:05:47.000 Yes.

00:05:48.000 Once you get into golf, I think, I guess any sport, it gets super addictive.

00:05:54.000 But for me, the intensity of video games is hard to beat.

00:06:00.000 Yes, and people dismiss it because they think it's just a waste of time.

00:06:04.000 But we're showing real-world benefits of people playing video games.

00:06:08.000 If you want to be a drone operator, it's the only game in town.

00:06:10.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:06:11.000 I mean, you're really good at video games.

00:06:12.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:06:15.000 In fact, I can actually tell what my mental acuity is if I play a very hard video game.

00:06:23.000 So if I'm trying to get an extremely good clear time in Diablo or something like that, Or a first-person shooter, whatever the case may be.

00:06:35.000 I can tell that I'm tired or my brain's not working as well as it should.

00:06:41.000 It's like a mental calibration.

00:06:43.000 You can tell immediately.

00:06:43.000 How good is your mental state?

00:06:46.000 Right, right.

00:06:51.000 So if you're trying to play really well, if you play late at night and you're tired, you just play badly.

00:06:56.000 Right.

00:06:57.000 And you can say, okay, you may think that your brain is working well, but it isn't.

00:07:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:07:03.000 Because you play the video game and you're like, you suck. 1.00

00:07:04.000 So, okay. 1.00

00:07:05.000 Yeah, you're putting it under stress.

00:07:06.000 Yeah.

00:07:07.000 You're really stress testing it.

00:07:09.000 You stress test it.

00:07:10.000 Yeah.

00:07:11.000 Because sometimes it's like, oh, I think I'm fine.

00:07:13.000 But then play the game, like, okay, I'm like 10% below what I should be.

00:07:17.000 That's how I feel about workouts, for sure.

00:07:19.000 Like, that's how I knew I had COVID. Everyone in my family had COVID. And I was trying to not get COVID. And so I was working out.

00:07:26.000 I was like, something's up.

00:07:28.000 Like, I felt fine, normally.

00:07:29.000 But then during exercise, I was like, okay, I can tell there's something wrong here.

00:07:33.000 So let's just back off, relax.

00:07:35.000 Yeah.

00:07:36.000 Yeah, it's like people who don't stress test their mind.

00:07:39.000 They think they're operating on the same level all the time. 0.97

00:07:42.000 Like sometimes I come in here and I can't form a fucking sentence and I don't know what it is. 0.98

00:07:47.000 It's like, what is going on? 0.98

00:07:49.000 So it's just like...

00:07:50.000 Maybe it's like, well, sleep wasn't that good or something like that.

00:07:52.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:07:53.000 Or I'm too busy and it's just, it's not, the words aren't coming out.

00:07:56.000 Like I know how to talk. 0.98

00:07:57.000 I talk professionally and I can't fucking talk. 0.99

00:08:00.000 It's like... 0.99

00:08:01.000 I mean, sleep is massive.

00:08:03.000 Huge!

00:08:04.000 Yeah, so I can tell immediately, did I get a good night's sleep or not?

00:08:08.000 If I just play like a video game for like five minutes, I'm like, okay, my sleep wasn't that good because it's my, you know, and then sometimes the rain will recover through the day and it's like, okay, like an hour or two after waking up, it's better.

00:08:22.000 Yeah.

00:08:23.000 Because your brain does kind of recover from bad night's sleep a little bit.

00:08:26.000 Do you know what really helps?

00:08:28.000 Creatine, apparently.

00:08:29.000 Does it?

00:08:29.000 Yeah, creatine is actually a nootropic, believe it or not.

00:08:32.000 There's a lot of benefits to creatine that are really weird.

00:08:35.000 Are there any downsides?

00:08:36.000 No, no, it's a natural part of food.

00:08:38.000 Yeah, yeah, especially women.

00:08:40.000 For women, apparently, especially post-menopausal women, it's very beneficial.

00:08:44.000 Okay.

00:08:46.000 But there's a lot of cognitive benefits, and one of the big ones that they found recently is performance when sleep deprived.

00:08:53.000 Mental performance when sleep deprived increases pretty measurably when you supplement with creatine.

00:08:59.000 Is creatine naturally occurring in steak?

00:09:02.000 Yeah, it's naturally occurring in meat, I think.

00:09:05.000 I think that's where it's coming from.

00:09:06.000 I think it's primarily an animal-based thing.

00:09:11.000 I did switch to steak and eggs for breakfast, and I found that's a power-up.

00:09:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:16.000 Yeah, well, we're all overrun with carbohydrates.

00:09:20.000 Yeah, yeah, totally.

00:09:21.000 And carbohydrates make this big crash, the rise and the crash, the rise and the crash.

00:09:26.000 You stay flat if you eat a primarily high-protein, high-fat diet, your body runs off ketosis, essentially.

00:09:34.000 Yeah, I mean, so I just have steak and eggs, no bread or anything.

00:09:37.000 Yeah, it's great.

00:09:38.000 It's great, actually.

00:09:39.000 It's a power-up, I'd say.

00:09:40.000 People dismiss this whole carnivore diet thing because in our heads, there's a lot of propagandists that put this thing out there that animal agriculture is the number one contributor to global warming. 0.98

00:09:52.000 Yeah, it's rubbish. 0.90

00:09:53.000 It's not true. 1.00

00:09:54.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:09:54.000 It's hot bullshit. 1.00

00:09:55.000 It doesn't matter. 1.00

00:09:55.000 Not only is it hot bullshit, but the real problem is factory farming. 1.00

00:10:00.000 Regenerative farming is carbon neutral if it doesn't sequester carbon. 0.98

00:10:04.000 The animals are not going to make any difference to global warming. 0.98

00:10:07.000 No, it's horseshit.

00:10:09.000 Do you think that that's just propaganda because of people that have a vested interest in like plant-based meat products and things along those lines, green energy? 0.93

00:10:18.000 I think that's part of it.

00:10:21.000 You know, you're generally going to get people pushing to avoid meat.

00:10:24.000 Like some people just, you know, maybe they've got a financial interest.

00:10:28.000 Maybe they're just like vegetarians or vegans or whatever.

00:10:31.000 Ideological reasons.

00:10:32.000 Ideological reasons.

00:10:33.000 But it's not going to make any difference to global warming or the CO2 concentration atmosphere, really, if people eat fewer steaks.

00:10:43.000 It doesn't matter.

00:10:44.000 It's irrelevant.

00:10:45.000 Irrelevant.

00:10:45.000 I want to just be super clear about that.

00:10:47.000 Yeah.

00:10:48.000 It will not matter.

00:10:48.000 You will not even be able to measure it.

00:10:50.000 Okay?

00:10:50.000 That's how irrelevant it is.

00:10:52.000 Isn't it funny that that's...

00:10:54.000 Unmeasurable.

00:10:54.000 Irrelevant.

00:10:55.000 Heretic speaking.

00:10:57.000 That's crazy talk now.

00:10:58.000 Nowadays, it's like you have to say that we have to eat less meat.

00:11:02.000 That meat is bad.

00:11:03.000 No, we can totally eat as much meat as you want.

00:11:05.000 It's not going to make a difference.

00:11:06.000 Sing it!

00:11:07.000 Tell the world!

00:11:07.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:11:09.000 And if somebody says it does make a difference, I'm like, how will you measure it? 0.99

00:11:12.000 And if you can't even measure it, then it's bullshit. 0.99

00:11:14.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:11:14.000 Literally, I won't be able to measure it. 0.99

00:11:16.000 Well, there's so much bullshit out today. 0.98

00:11:18.000 First of all, thank you so much for buying Twitter. 0.99

00:11:22.000 Thank you so much.

00:11:24.000 I'm not exaggerating when I think you changed the course of history.

00:11:27.000 I really do.

00:11:28.000 I really think you made a fork in the road.

00:11:32.000 We were headed down a path of censorship and of Control of narratives that is unprecedented.

00:11:41.000 Forget about what they were able to do back when they had newspapers and the media under control.

00:11:46.000 What they were doing with social media by suppressing information and when you had a combined government effort, like what they were doing with the laptop story.

00:11:55.000 We have 51 former intelligence agents saying that this is Russian disinformation, take it offline, and Twitter complied.

00:12:03.000 If you didn't buy that, we wouldn't have known that.

00:12:06.000 We had no idea.

00:12:07.000 Exactly.

00:12:09.000 The reason I bought it was because I'm pretty attuned since I was like the most interacted with a user on Twitter before the acquisition.

00:12:18.000 So before the acquisitions, I had more interactions than then.

00:12:21.000 Like, there's some accounts like Obama and whatever had higher follower accounts, but I had the most number of interactions of any account in the system.

00:12:29.000 So I was very attuned to, like, if they change the system, I can tell immediately.

00:12:35.000 And I'm like, something weird is going on here, you know?

00:12:38.000 Yeah.

00:12:39.000 I just got increasingly uneasy.

00:12:42.000 Yeah.

00:12:43.000 And obviously when they de-platformed the sitting president, de-platformed Trump, that was just insane.

00:12:53.000 And the things he was posting, he was posting good things.

00:12:58.000 He was saying like, hey, do not riot.

00:13:02.000 Don't do any destruction of property.

00:13:04.000 Please stay calm.

00:13:06.000 That's the kind of stuff he was posting.

00:13:08.000 Yeah.

00:13:08.000 And you're like, what's wrong with that?

00:13:11.000 And then some people said like, oh, that's like some sort of dog whistle.

00:13:14.000 He means the opposite.

00:13:15.000 I'm like, okay, so we'll give you Trump's account.

00:13:18.000 Now you post what you think you should post.

00:13:20.000 Because he can post nothing.

00:13:21.000 He can ask people to calm down.

00:13:24.000 Like what?

00:13:25.000 It was insane.

00:13:26.000 Like it didn't make any sense.

00:13:28.000 Well, it's completely illogical when you say it's dog whistling to tell his followers to not be violent.

00:13:33.000 Yes.

00:13:34.000 That's crazy.

00:13:34.000 And crazy.

00:13:35.000 That's crazy.

00:13:36.000 Crazy.

00:13:36.000 Don't you think they'll listen to him?

00:13:38.000 Yeah.

00:13:38.000 Isn't that the whole point?

00:13:39.000 They listened to him and created violence in the first place?

00:13:41.000 That's what you think.

00:13:42.000 Yes, exactly.

00:13:43.000 That's what you're accusing him of.

00:13:44.000 Right. 0.99

00:13:45.000 And then there's the fact that we know that there was agents in the crowd that were agent provocateurs that were encouraging people to do illegal shit. 0.99

00:13:53.000 Yes. 0.99

00:13:53.000 We know that for a fact. 0.99

00:13:55.000 That was always the big Alex Jones type tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

00:14:00.000 Because Alex proposed that back at the World Trade Organization protests.

00:14:05.000 I believe we were in Seattle in the 90s.

00:14:07.000 And they sent in agent provocateurs, started smashing things, lighting things on fire.

00:14:12.000 Now all of a sudden a peaceful protest is no longer peaceful.

00:14:15.000 They move in the cops.

00:14:16.000 They shut everything down.

00:14:17.000 They had it set up where it was a no protest zone where you couldn't even have a pin That had the WTO with a red line through it.

00:14:24.000 They wouldn't let you go in through to go to work.

00:14:27.000 So you couldn't protest.

00:14:28.000 You couldn't exercise your First Amendment rights. 0.99

00:14:30.000 You couldn't even, like, have a peaceful protest, a fucking sticker on your car. 0.99

00:14:34.000 You couldn't have that. 1.00

00:14:35.000 It's crazy.

00:14:36.000 It is crazy.

00:14:38.000 No, I think we're very much at a fork in the road in Destiny.

00:14:46.000 The reason I did the Twitter acquisition was like, man, if I don't do this, I think we're screwed.

00:14:51.000 That's the issue.

00:14:52.000 Well, if you didn't do it, no one else was going to do it because it wasn't a financial winner.

00:14:56.000 It was kind of a crazy move.

00:14:58.000 It's a crazy move.

00:14:59.000 I mean, the thing was way overpriced.

00:15:04.000 Long term, I think we can ultimately make it a win for investors, but boy, this is a hard way to make a living.

00:15:12.000 Well, there's also a concerted effort to suppress it.

00:15:14.000 There's a concerted effort with the advertisers.

00:15:17.000 We still have a massive advertiser boycott that was organized by a bunch of left-wing NGOs.

00:15:27.000 I should have brought my – I have a hat, Make Orwell Fiction again.

00:15:32.000 I've seen that hat.

00:15:34.000 Yeah.

00:15:35.000 I should have bought my Make Oil Fiction hat again.

00:15:40.000 But, yeah, I mean, it's just totally, totally nuts.

00:15:45.000 If you didn't do it, no one would have. 1.00

00:15:47.000 And here's the hilarious narrative that I keep hearing from idiots. 1.00

00:15:51.000 Elon's a bad businessman. 1.00

00:15:53.000 Twitter is worth, you know, 400% less than when he bought it.

00:15:57.000 No, it wasn't worth that in the first place.

00:15:59.000 It wasn't worth that in the first place. 1.00

00:16:00.000 It wasn't worth $44 billion, you fucking morons. 1.00

00:16:02.000 Like, wrong. 1.00

00:16:03.000 And also, you're not taking into account the advertiser boycott.

00:16:06.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:16:06.000 That's total bullshit. 1.00

00:16:08.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:16:09.000 So, there are these organizations—like, you can tell they're like—when they have an Orwellian name.

00:16:15.000 So, like, the Center for Countering Digital Hate is a total scam organization, you know, because— They're like the Ministry of Truth type of thing in Orwell.

00:16:27.000 They're a censorship organization.

00:16:30.000 And they pushed the advertisers to boycott.

00:16:35.000 Some of the boycott is starting to lift.

00:16:40.000 And I think if Trump wins, we'll see probably most of the boycott lift.

00:16:46.000 But if Kamala wins, we'll see that boycott get stronger. 0.94

00:16:50.000 And they'll friggin' shut down. 0.86

00:16:52.000 There's no way that the Kamala puppet regime would allow X to exist. 0.53

00:16:56.000 You really think that they'll be able to shut it down though?

00:16:58.000 Is there a pathway to that?

00:17:00.000 Yes.

00:17:01.000 What would they do?

00:17:05.000 Well, I mean, they can stick the DOJ on, you know, and say, like, you know, they've had this whole thing about, like, hate speech, misinformation, whatever, except that they're the ones pushing the misinformation.

00:17:15.000 But that doesn't stop them from filing massive, you know, lawsuits and using the DOJ. I mean, like, the DOJ has, you know, been attacking SpaceX, for example, for not hiring asylum seekers, even though it is legal for SpaceX to hire anyone who is not a permanent resident of the U.S. So we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

00:17:35.000 Just an example of what DOJ can do.

00:17:38.000 So it's illegal to hire someone who's not an American citizen?

00:17:43.000 SpaceX is considered an advanced weapons technology.

00:17:46.000 So it's covered by international traffic and arms regulations because we make rocket technology that can be used against the United States.

00:17:53.000 It's like if North Korea or Iran got SpaceX rocket technology, they could use that to launch nukes at America. 0.95

00:17:59.000 Right.

00:17:59.000 That would be bad.

00:18:00.000 Yeah.

00:18:01.000 That'd be really bad.

00:18:02.000 That'd be really bad.

00:18:03.000 So since we are in like the most extreme category of weapons technology at SpaceX, under US ITAR law, it is illegal for us to hire anyone who's not a permanent resident because the presumption is that if they're not a permanent resident,

00:18:19.000 they're going to return to their home country and take the rocket technology with them.

00:18:25.000 So it's illegal for us to hire anyone who's not a – they can have a green card or be a citizen.

00:18:33.000 They just have to be a permanent resident of the United States. 0.85

00:18:36.000 Then there's another law that says if you discriminate against asylum seekers, you're also breaking the law.

00:18:46.000 So the DOJ can only do a small number of big lawsuits every year.

00:18:51.000 Launched a giant lawsuit against SpaceX saying that SpaceX discriminated against asylum seekers.

00:18:58.000 And we're like, but it's illegal for us to hire anyone who's not a permanent resident.

00:19:02.000 So we're in this, like, this is what I mean.

00:19:05.000 It's like Orwell's situation is getting insane. 0.70

00:19:08.000 Like, you're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't. 0.98

00:19:11.000 So you're damned. 0.99

00:19:12.000 Can you imagine history looking back at when you watch the robot arms catch the rocket and you realize like this is like one of the greatest accomplishments in The history of aerospace like it is one of the most wildest accomplishments when you watch that thing come and you see all those people cheering and it catches it perfectly like holy shit Imagine how history is going to look back at the DOJ going after that company. 0.99

00:19:39.000 Yeah. 0.67

00:19:40.000 How insane it is.

00:19:41.000 There was a big lawsuit with an army of lawyers.

00:19:44.000 This was not some minor thing.

00:19:45.000 But it doesn't even make any sense logically.

00:19:46.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:19:47.000 How could it even get brought to court if it's illegal?

00:19:50.000 Exactly.

00:19:51.000 So that's what I mean.

00:19:53.000 Basically, if the government wants to go after you, they'll just find a reason.

00:19:56.000 It's like that famous quote from Beria.

00:19:59.000 You know, like Stalin's chief torturer, the head of Stalin's secret police and his chief torturer, truly evil human being, like this guy Beria. 0.89

00:20:10.000 One of his famous quotes was, show me the man and I'll show you the crime.

00:20:14.000 Right.

00:20:14.000 They decide that you're the target and then they figure out the crime afterwards.

00:20:21.000 That's the issue.

00:20:22.000 They decided SpaceX was the target.

00:20:24.000 They just figured out the crime afterwards.

00:20:26.000 Which is so crazy because that's exactly what they're saying Trump is going to do if he gets into office.

00:20:31.000 They're doing all the things that they accused Trump of doing.

00:20:34.000 Yeah.

00:20:35.000 Openly.

00:20:36.000 Openly.

00:20:37.000 Yeah.

00:20:37.000 I mean, the sheer number of hoaxes that the Democratic Party is pushing over and over again.

00:20:43.000 And it's like, look, I understand politicians are going to exaggerate.

00:20:49.000 They're going to...

00:20:52.000 And they'll tell occasional untruths, whatever.

00:20:54.000 That's how it is in politics.

00:20:56.000 But when you have deliberate, concerted, repeated pushing of hoaxes, you're like, wait a second.

00:21:04.000 Like, come on, man.

00:21:05.000 This is too far.

00:21:06.000 And you're supposed to be the good guys.

00:21:08.000 And you claim to be the good guys?

00:21:09.000 I'm like, exactly.

00:21:10.000 You're supposed to be the progressives.

00:21:12.000 Yes, the Dems are like, oh, we're the good guys.

00:21:14.000 We're the honest people.

00:21:15.000 No, no, hang on.

00:21:16.000 You can't claim to be the good guys.

00:21:17.000 You can't claim to be the honest people if you're deliberately pushing hoaxes that have been debunked thoroughly.

00:21:24.000 Yeah.

00:21:24.000 Or like even Snopes, which is a liberal thing, says it's bogus.

00:21:28.000 Yeah.

00:21:29.000 Like the fine people hoax.

00:21:31.000 Obama just said that on stage.

00:21:32.000 Obama just said that. 1.00

00:21:33.000 I was like, what the flying fuck? 1.00

00:21:34.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

00:21:35.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

00:21:36.000 They're just going for it. 1.00

00:21:37.000 That's a flat-out goddamn fucking lie. 1.00

00:21:38.000 Flat-out lie. 1.00

00:21:39.000 Flat on fucking lie. 1.00

00:21:40.000 How about the other one where Kamala's campaign used what Trump was saying about protecting women from illegal immigrants? 1.00

00:21:47.000 Thank you.

00:21:47.000 Remember that?

00:21:49.000 Yeah.

00:21:49.000 What he was saying is, if the women like it or not, I'm gonna do it!

00:21:52.000 Yeah.

00:21:53.000 When he was saying that, they were trying to say that he was taking away women's right to choose, whether women like it or not.

00:21:59.000 Like, that's not what he was saying.

00:22:00.000 Absolutely.

00:22:00.000 He was literally talking about protecting them from dangerous people that are sneaking in through the border.

00:22:05.000 Yes, exactly.

00:22:06.000 They'll take, like, not even a full sentence, like a half a sentence from Trump, and then they'll push it on every ad, every speaking event, every media.

00:22:15.000 And it gets repeated on the news.

00:22:17.000 Yes.

00:22:17.000 This is what's crazy.

00:22:18.000 They'll talk about it on these news shows, quote, news shows.

00:22:22.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:23.000 I mean, a recent one that came up, which had a lot of people, because a lot of people reached out to me, was like, oh, Trump says he wants to execute Liz Cheney. 0.99

00:22:34.000 I'm like, that is utter bullshit. 0.96

00:22:36.000 It's not what he said at all. 0.99

00:22:37.000 It's not what he said at all.

00:22:39.000 All he said was like, what he's saying is that, look, if Liz Cheney actually had to fight at the front lines, she'd think twice about going to war.

00:22:51.000 Exactly.

00:22:51.000 It's easy to go to war.

00:22:53.000 It's easy to be a warmonger if you don't have to risk dying at the front lines. 0.98

00:22:59.000 Basically, it's fucked up if people are having fancy dinners in Washington, D.C. while people are being slaughtered in trenches. 0.98

00:23:08.000 It's like you're not feeling the pain. 0.98

00:23:10.000 You're not taking the risk.

00:23:11.000 It's someone else dying.

00:23:13.000 That's cruel and lacking in empathy.

00:23:17.000 And all Trump was saying was that Liz Cheney would be much less of a warmonger, because she's a huge warmonger, just like her dad, if she actually had to go to the front lines and fight herself. 0.98

00:23:30.000 And meanwhile, they're saying that he's saying she should be shot. 0.91

00:23:33.000 Yes, which is a total lie. 0.94

00:23:36.000 But I had like tons of people call me this weekend saying, oh, Trump says he's going to put Liz Trini in a firing squad. 1.00

00:23:42.000 I'm like, that is an outrageous lie.

00:23:45.000 And legacy media ran with that lie, big time.

00:23:48.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:23:48.000 It's just wild to see.

00:23:50.000 And if it wasn't for Twitter or X now, I don't think we would know about all this stuff.

00:23:55.000 I think it would be very difficult for you.

00:23:57.000 I think YouTube throttled.

00:23:59.000 They did something weird.

00:24:00.000 They won't say what they did, but they did something weird with the Trump interview that I did.

00:24:03.000 Yeah.

00:24:04.000 Where you couldn't find it.

00:24:04.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:24:06.000 It made no sense.

00:24:08.000 I mean, it was like the biggest interview on earth, and you can't find it?

00:24:12.000 Yeah.

00:24:12.000 Not only that, it wasn't trending.

00:24:14.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:24:15.000 It wasn't trending. 1.00

00:24:16.000 It wasn't trending.

00:24:17.000 No, it wasn't trending.

00:24:19.000 You're like...

00:24:21.000 There's just no excuse for that, man.

00:24:23.000 No excuse.

00:24:23.000 There's no excuse.

00:24:24.000 It was getting a million views.

00:24:26.000 What was it?

00:24:27.000 1.4 an hour at one point in time?

00:24:29.000 1.5.

00:24:29.000 1.5 an hour.

00:24:30.000 Yeah.

00:24:31.000 And it wasn't trending.

00:24:32.000 Yeah.

00:24:32.000 And it's like your channel is a known channel.

00:24:35.000 It's not like it was started yesterday.

00:24:39.000 It's like yours is a high-trust channel.

00:24:42.000 It's like you're not trying to scam crypto coins or something.

00:24:47.000 Yeah.

00:24:48.000 Well, thank God we put it on X as well.

00:24:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:50.000 Because I think just with your account and my account alone, it's like 70 million views.

00:24:54.000 Yeah.

00:24:55.000 Exactly.

00:24:56.000 Yeah.

00:24:56.000 Well, it's like you can't hide things anymore because of you.

00:24:59.000 And if it wasn't for you, I think they would have had total control of social media by now.

00:25:03.000 Yeah.

00:25:03.000 They banned so many accounts during the pandemic, so many dissenting scientists and doctors and physicians.

00:25:10.000 They banned so many conspiracy theorists, so many people that colored outside the lines.

00:25:15.000 They would have done that everywhere, and it probably would have – I think even what's going on at Facebook, they're being more lenient.

00:25:23.000 You hear Zuckerberg talking about taking a more libertarian stance.

00:25:27.000 That's entirely reaction to the way Twitter has kind of moved the watermark.

00:25:32.000 Exactly.

00:25:33.000 So as soon as any company steps out of line and is willing to actually have the truth debated on their platform, it forces the other platforms to allow things to be more truthful, to not censor.

00:25:46.000 Because their censorship becomes glaringly obvious.

00:25:49.000 Yes.

00:25:50.000 Yes.

00:25:51.000 And, you know, the best thing I found for as a rebuttal, like if there's a hoax, is just go to the source material.

00:25:58.000 You know, if somebody thinks, you know, Trump said that we should put Liz Cheney in a firing squad, I'm like, let me send you a link to X so you can watch his video.

00:26:09.000 That's the best way.

00:26:11.000 Don't take my opinion for it.

00:26:13.000 Don't take anyone's opinion for it.

00:26:14.000 Go to the source material.

00:26:15.000 And Community Notes.

00:26:16.000 Yes, and Community Notes is awesome.

00:26:17.000 Community Notes is the best.

00:26:18.000 It's awesome.

00:26:19.000 It's incredible because everybody gets checked.

00:26:21.000 Yes, including me.

00:26:23.000 Yeah.

00:26:23.000 And with Community Notes, all the software is open source and all the data is open source.

00:26:30.000 So you can recreate any given note independently.

00:26:34.000 That's amazing.

00:26:35.000 Yeah.

00:26:35.000 That's how it should be.

00:26:37.000 It's total, absolute transparency in every way.

00:26:40.000 You know, sometimes I get asked, like, oh, can you remove a note?

00:26:43.000 You know, mostly by the left, but sometimes by the right.

00:26:46.000 I'm like, I don't even remove notes on my own account.

00:26:49.000 Nothing.

00:26:50.000 And by the way, everything is totally open.

00:26:52.000 So if I did that, it would stick out like a sore thumb immediately.

00:26:57.000 Like, it's not going to be subtle.

00:26:58.000 That is the best counter to misinformation.

00:27:00.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:27:01.000 Let everybody look at it and say, okay, here's what the actual facts say.

00:27:05.000 Yes, exactly.

00:27:06.000 The counter to misinformation is better information.

00:27:09.000 Not just that, but having it checked in real time by the community.

00:27:13.000 So you have millions of people that can go over it and debate whether or not this is true or that's true.

00:27:18.000 Yes.

00:27:19.000 And like I said, the best way to understand the truth of things is don't take anyone's opinion for it.

00:27:24.000 Look at the source material.

00:27:26.000 You know, so it's like, look at what someone actually said, look at what someone actually did, look at the real videos of the situation, and then you can actually, you'll know what's real.

00:27:35.000 So, as of today, when you were literally on your way here, you sent me this text saying that they're trying to lock you up in jail in Pennsylvania. 0.99

00:27:43.000 Tell me what the fuck is happening. 0.96

00:27:45.000 Well, you know, there's the classic sort of Soros DA situation. 0.99

00:27:49.000 So we're making a lot of progress in Pennsylvania.

00:27:52.000 So, you know, I've given a whole bunch of talks throughout the state because Pennsylvania is the linchpin in this election.

00:28:00.000 You know, whoever wins Pennsylvania wins the election.

00:28:05.000 I spent three years in Pennsylvania.

00:28:06.000 I went to college in Philadelphia.

00:28:09.000 So it's not like I'm a total stranger to the state.

00:28:13.000 I spent three years there.

00:28:18.000 And we've organized this petition in support of the Constitution, which I think is a good thing, and specifically asking people to—and we wanted this to be, like, registered voters in swing states.

00:28:36.000 Like, basically, we want to send a message to the politicians to say that the people care about the Constitution, because there have been all these attacks on the Constitution.

00:28:44.000 They've been, especially on the Democrat side, they've been repeatedly saying that the First Amendment is an obstacle.

00:28:51.000 And they're claiming, oh, the First Amendment is enabling disinformation, misinformation.

00:28:56.000 And I'm like, yo, there's a reason for the First Amendment, like freedom of speech.

00:29:00.000 The reason that the founders of the country put, you know, the freedom of speech there is because they came from countries where if you spoke your mind, you would get shot or imprisoned.

00:29:10.000 That's why the First Amendment exists. 1.00

00:29:13.000 And the Second Amendment is there to stop the tyranny of government.

00:29:16.000 The Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, is there to protect freedom of speech.

00:29:30.000 I've had these debates, especially with people in LA, because they want to take everyone's guns away, and I'm like, Can you guarantee me that we will never have a tyrannical government in the United States?

00:29:42.000 Can you make that guarantee?

00:29:44.000 They're like, well, nobody can make that guarantee.

00:29:46.000 I'm like, then we need to keep our guns.

00:29:48.000 Because that's what's going to stop it.

00:29:51.000 That sounds crazy for people to hear because they think about gun violence and gun problems and gun this and gun that.

00:29:57.000 But that's the reality of the world that we live in is that tyranny is possible and it exists other places and it's slowly existing.

00:30:05.000 It's slowly rearing its head in the UK. You're seeing...

00:30:10.000 I think the number of people that have been arrested for just social media posts is bananas.

00:30:17.000 It's in the thousands.

00:30:18.000 Yes.

00:30:18.000 Several thousand people have been given prison sentences in the UK for social media posts where there was no explicit link to actual violence.

00:30:28.000 But they just said it encouraged violence.

00:30:30.000 Like, well, did anyone actually do anything as a result of that media post?

00:30:34.000 Well, no.

00:30:36.000 And then they have a prison overcrowding situation in the UK, so they're quite literally releasing convicted pedophiles and putting people in jail for Facebook posts.

00:30:47.000 That's an actual thing happening in Britain.

00:30:50.000 That is so wild.

00:30:53.000 It's so wild that people can't see it. 1.00

00:30:55.000 What the fuck is going on? 0.99

00:30:56.000 And what's insane to me... 1.00

00:30:58.000 Make Orwell fiction again.

00:30:58.000 Yeah.

00:30:59.000 But it's all being encouraged by the left.

00:31:01.000 Ketanji Brown Jackson, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton.

00:31:04.000 John Kerry was one of the people who said that...

00:31:07.000 He's on camera a few weeks ago saying that the First Amendment is an obstacle to fighting misinformation.

00:31:13.000 Yeah.

00:31:14.000 That's crazy.

00:31:15.000 That's such a crazy thing to say when you have a solution in community notes.

00:31:19.000 You have a solution in something that could clear everything up, any confusion within a day or two.

00:31:23.000 And even without a community note, you can reply to a post with evidence that shows that the post is wrong.

00:31:30.000 You don't even need community notes.

00:31:31.000 I mean, community notes is helpful because it sticks to the original note.

00:31:33.000 But in the replies, you can say, here's why you're wrong, here are the reasons, and here's the evidence.

00:31:38.000 But the argument is that people are too unsophisticated, that they're not going to research these things.

00:31:44.000 They're going to be a victim of misinformation.

00:31:46.000 So they're going to read something that's incorrect.

00:31:48.000 They're going to run with it.

00:31:50.000 People are going to die.

00:31:51.000 People are going to ruin the world because people believed in misinformation. 1.00

00:31:54.000 It's a stupid argument. 1.00

00:31:56.000 It's a stupid argument. 1.00

00:31:56.000 Because it's an argument that they're too dumb to know what's right or wrong. 1.00

00:31:59.000 If you know, because you're saying it's misinformation, why do you think that you're smarter than everybody who reads that? 0.98

00:32:05.000 Exactly.

00:32:06.000 And obviously anyone on the X system knows that things are posted and then there are replies and there are rebuttals and it's immediately corrected.

00:32:13.000 But where are the corrections for the legacy media?

00:32:17.000 Some broadcast media, they say false things all the time.

00:32:23.000 But it's a one-way street.

00:32:24.000 There's no rebuttal.

00:32:25.000 There's no counter.

00:32:26.000 Right.

00:32:28.000 Who's apologized for being incorrect?

00:32:31.000 Did Rachel Maddow ever apologize for telling everybody that if you get the COVID vaccine, you're never going to get COVID? The virus stops with you?

00:32:39.000 No, never.

00:32:39.000 Never.

00:32:40.000 It was not true at the time.

00:32:42.000 There was no evidence to support it at the time.

00:32:44.000 It's pure propaganda.

00:32:45.000 And she said it.

00:32:46.000 The Russiagate hoax.

00:32:48.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:32:48.000 For three fucking years they said that he was Putin's toy and that Putin had him compromised. 0.99

00:32:54.000 The Steele dossier. 0.99

00:32:55.000 The Steele dossier was completely fabricated by a lawyer at Perkins Coie who was paid by the Clinton campaign.

00:33:02.000 Literally. 0.70

00:33:03.000 Crazy. 0.74

00:33:03.000 And still people think the Russia hoax is real. 0.74

00:33:05.000 And there's no repercussions.

00:33:06.000 There's no one had to apologize.

00:33:08.000 Hillary never came out and apologized for that, and people still listen to her. 0.83

00:33:11.000 The whole thing is crazy. 0.98

00:33:13.000 And it's all coming from the left, which growing up as a person who was in the left my whole life, it doesn't make any fucking sense. 0.98

00:33:19.000 Same.

00:33:20.000 I mean, I was on the left until like three years ago.

00:33:29.000 It's not the left anymore.

00:33:30.000 It's not the left anymore.

00:33:34.000 I believe we want freedom.

00:33:38.000 We want to maximize personal liberty.

00:33:41.000 We want to be kind to people.

00:33:43.000 We want to have empathy.

00:33:48.000 But it's very important to have personal freedom and a merit-based society.

00:33:52.000 And the left wants to oppress your freedoms, especially freedom of speech.

00:33:58.000 And they want to have a non-merit-based society, you know, with race-based and sex-based preferences.

00:34:05.000 And it's like, well, wait a second.

00:34:06.000 No, we just want people to succeed based on their skills and their hard work.

00:34:10.000 And if they don't want people to express themselves about particular issues, then they're not doing the will of the people.

00:34:15.000 And if they're trying to suppress people's ability to communicate, they're only doing that because they want to do things that people don't want them to do.

00:34:22.000 And they want to silence opposition.

00:34:24.000 That's all it is.

00:34:25.000 And the fact that people can't see that and they want to call Trump a fascist.

00:34:30.000 The whole thing is through the looking glass.

00:34:33.000 I mean, it's like one hoax after another that they're perpetrating against Trump.

00:34:36.000 I mean, they try to call the rally at Madison Square Garden like a Nazi rally.

00:34:39.000 I'm like, yo, there was literally an Israeli flag in the audience.

00:34:44.000 I think a quarter of the speakers were Jewish.

00:34:47.000 There were people of every race, color, creed, religion at that rally.

00:34:51.000 Tell me, what about that is Nazi?

00:34:53.000 And yet it was portrayed as a Nazi rally.

00:34:56.000 Well, MSNBC, they literally showed video of the Nazi rally from the 1930s and then compared it to the Trump rally. 0.99

00:35:02.000 Ignoring the fact that fucking Jimmy Carter spoke there. 0.95

00:35:07.000 There have been dozens of political rallies at Madison Square Garden. 0.99

00:35:10.000 Dozens on the Democrat side.

00:35:13.000 And people on X were like, and here's exactly, here's Jimmy Carter, and here's Bill Clinton.

00:35:18.000 And here's, wait a second.

00:35:20.000 Actually, it looks like every presidential candidate on the Democrat side has done a rally at Madison Square Garden, so are they Nazis too?

00:35:27.000 But what they're doing is they're preying on low-information voters who aren't engaged actively on social media, who don't have the time to look through everything.

00:35:36.000 Exactly.

00:35:37.000 If people are just looking at legacy mainstream media, then they have a totally different worldview than if they're on X and seeing the actual flow of argument and the actual evidence.

00:35:49.000 Well, what was the pushback?

00:35:51.000 Like, what happened when you guys released the Twitter files?

00:35:54.000 Because I think the Twitter files is probably one of the most important things in this age of information for understanding the influence that government has on social media and on discourse.

00:36:04.000 Because when we found out that that was the case, that the government was actually asking Twitter to remove posts that were factual, they did the same thing to Facebook.

00:36:13.000 They had them throttle pieces of one of Tucker Carlson's show.

00:36:16.000 They suppressed the views by 50%.

00:36:20.000 Of factual information.

00:36:21.000 Yeah.

00:36:22.000 No, there was massive government interference in Twitter.

00:36:24.000 But, like, Twitter welcomed it.

00:36:26.000 That's important.

00:36:27.000 All Twitter welcomed it.

00:36:30.000 I mean, all Twitter was controlled by far-left activists.

00:36:34.000 Yeah.

00:36:36.000 And they welcomed the government interference.

00:36:40.000 They got paid by the government for it.

00:36:42.000 That's crazy.

00:36:44.000 They got paid for their time, correct?

00:36:45.000 Yes.

00:36:45.000 Yeah, they got paid millions of dollars for suppressing information.

00:36:48.000 And a bunch of it was flat out illegal.

00:36:51.000 The FBI had this sort of magic portal into the Twitter system, but all of the communication in this portal was auto-deleted after two weeks, which breaks federal FOIA laws.

00:37:04.000 So we didn't even know what was said, because it was all deleted after two weeks.

00:37:08.000 That's insane.

00:37:09.000 Yeah.

00:37:10.000 That's so crazy.

00:37:11.000 It's so crazy that people thought that was okay.

00:37:12.000 It's super not okay.

00:37:14.000 No, it's super not okay.

00:37:15.000 It's unconstitutional, and no one would want that.

00:37:19.000 No one would want the government to have that kind of access.

00:37:22.000 Exactly.

00:37:23.000 And what was the blowback like when all that stuff got released?

00:37:27.000 Like, you had to anticipate that there was going to be problems when you released that.

00:37:32.000 Like, what happened?

00:37:34.000 Well, we got a lot of...

00:37:35.000 We did lose a lot of advertising dollars.

00:37:38.000 And...

00:37:41.000 Which is crazy because it's essentially like one of the most important forms of journalism is exposing government corruption.

00:37:47.000 Yes.

00:37:48.000 I mean this is the weird thing.

00:37:50.000 It's like the left used to be big on exposing government corruption.

00:37:54.000 But once they control the government, they no longer want to expose the government corruption.

00:37:59.000 Right.

00:37:59.000 They want to pretend that the left-wing government is incapable of corruption because we're on the good side.

00:38:04.000 I think it may be just like, you know, whoever's in power kind of doesn't want the, you know, the other side heard.

00:38:13.000 Because as you pointed out, like the left, historically, up until, I don't know, maybe even 10 years ago or something like that, was the Free Speech Party.

00:38:23.000 And now it's the anti-free speech party.

00:38:25.000 And they just, they use words like, like, oh, well, we have to be against hate speech and misinformation, disinformation.

00:38:33.000 But these are propaganda words.

00:38:35.000 It's like, well, who's defining hate speech?

00:38:38.000 Who's defining misinformation?

00:38:39.000 The government.

00:38:40.000 Do you really trust the government to make that definition?

00:38:45.000 The whole point of the First Amendment is like, do not trust the government.

00:38:50.000 Especially when they're wrong and there's no repercussions.

00:38:54.000 Like with the whole lab leak theory, you would get kicked off of YouTube if you even presented this argument that, hey, maybe that coronavirus lab where they're doing work on the exact same virus that got released.

00:39:08.000 Hey, maybe that's where it came from since that's where the virus started.

00:39:11.000 What do you think, guys?

00:39:12.000 They kick you right off of YouTube.

00:39:16.000 Yeah.

00:39:16.000 Yes, exactly.

00:39:17.000 It's like, do you think maybe it could have come from a place called the Novel Coronavirus Research Institute?

00:39:25.000 Yeah, like that Jon Stewart bit that he did on Colbert?

00:39:26.000 That was amazing.

00:39:28.000 It's like, what does it say on the door again?

00:39:29.000 Can I see your business card?

00:39:32.000 And to see Colbert resisting it with every fiber of his being.

00:39:37.000 What's going to happen to us?

00:39:38.000 He was totally cock-blocking the bit to the point where Jon Stewart got off his chair and started walking around trying to take control.

00:39:44.000 That was wild, man.

00:39:45.000 Yeah.

00:39:46.000 Good on Jon.

00:39:47.000 And then the left tried to cancel Jon Stewart.

00:39:48.000 Of course!

00:39:49.000 Meanwhile, he was right.

00:39:50.000 He's right.

00:39:51.000 And no apologies.

00:39:52.000 No apologies.

00:39:53.000 Yeah.

00:39:54.000 And, you know, the whole Fauci thing.

00:39:56.000 Any criticism of Fauci.

00:39:58.000 It's like anti-science. 0.99

00:39:59.000 Fauci's a freaking demon if you ask me.

00:40:01.000 If you read RFK's book, the real Anthony Fauci, if that's correct, if the facts are in there that's true, it's all referenced, you could find the sources, and on top of it, he's never been sued for that book, which doesn't make any sense. 0.97

00:40:13.000 If he just made a bunch of lies up, he would get sued. 0.94

00:40:16.000 So the guy's a monster. 0.99

00:40:17.000 I think so. 0.98

00:40:18.000 Yeah, I think so, too.

00:40:19.000 Yeah.

00:40:20.000 I think, like, just looking at the lies that he told, the way he tried to define gain-of-function research to Rand Paul.

00:40:29.000 I think maybe a lot of people out there don't realize Fauci funded the bioweapons research that was going on in Wuhan.

00:40:37.000 He bank-shotted it off.

00:40:39.000 Like, he can't send the money directly to China, so he just bank-shotted it off EcoHealth, this, like, fake non-profit in the U.S., and they sent it to Wuhan.

00:40:46.000 And Obama put the skids on that. 0.69

00:40:48.000 He stopped that in 2014. Yes.

00:40:50.000 I mean, so, you know, to give Obama some credit, he actually was, like, looking at this and saying, hey, this is crazy.

00:40:57.000 And so he actually did stop the, like, the so-called gain of function, again, a propaganda word, because what is the function they're talking about?

00:41:09.000 Death.

00:41:12.000 If you actually use the right word, gain-of-function is death maximization.

00:41:21.000 Then you're like, oh, hey guys, should we fund bio-weapon research into death maximization?

00:41:27.000 Because that's what gain-of-function means.

00:41:29.000 That's the function.

00:41:30.000 Death.

00:41:31.000 Yeah, it means making a disease so that people can get it.

00:41:33.000 Give it to people.

00:41:34.000 And by the way— What's that function again?

00:41:36.000 Oh, the function is death?

00:41:37.000 Oh, okay.

00:41:38.000 So just call it a death-maximizing virus.

00:41:40.000 That's insane. 0.99

00:41:40.000 If you're doing research on that, and the idea behind this research is so that we can cure these things, how come you don't have a fucking cure? 0.99

00:41:48.000 Start with a cure. 0.96

00:41:49.000 Cure first, disease second.

00:41:51.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:41:52.000 Like, you guys had no strategy for dealing with it if it got out?

00:41:55.000 And so you have to, like, make up this new vaccine in, like, record time, Operation Warp Speed, release it to the people with very little testing? 0.99

00:42:05.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.99

00:42:06.000 It was crazy. 1.00

00:42:06.000 The whole thing's crazy, and everybody just went along with it. 1.00

00:42:09.000 Looney Tunes, next level.

00:42:10.000 Well, the PSYOP was fascinating to watch people step in line.

00:42:14.000 That's, like, one of the biggest PSYOPs of all time.

00:42:16.000 Of all time.

00:42:18.000 And everybody got in line.

00:42:20.000 And when you take it back to when pharmaceutical drug companies were able to advertise on media in the 1990s, that changed everything.

00:42:28.000 We're one of two countries in the whole world that allows this.

00:42:31.000 And because of that, because we don't have socialized medicine, it's a complete profit scam.

00:42:37.000 Mm-hmm.

00:42:37.000 And they went hard claiming all sorts of things that were never researched, all sorts of things that are not supported by data.

00:42:44.000 Like the fact that it would stop transmission, the fact that it would stop infection, the fact that it was safe for pregnant women, the fact that it was safe for children. 0.99

00:42:51.000 All of it's bullshit. 1.00

00:42:52.000 Yes. 1.00

00:42:53.000 And they pushed it on the whole world.

00:42:54.000 And if you didn't say that at a cocktail party, you were a pariah.

00:42:58.000 Yes.

00:42:59.000 And you were an anti-vaxxer. 0.96

00:43:00.000 It was totally psycho. 0.97

00:43:01.000 It was like being a Holocaust denier. 0.74

00:43:03.000 You get kicked out of polite society.

00:43:05.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:43:06.000 Fuck you, bananas. 1.00

00:43:07.000 And I should say, I'm actually generally pro-vaccine overall. 1.00

00:43:11.000 I think we should look at these things.

00:43:13.000 But I believe in the scientific method.

00:43:16.000 So you don't have a blanket except anything.

00:43:20.000 You don't have a blanket except that any given medication or any given treatment is 100% good.

00:43:26.000 You should always be with some skepticism.

00:43:28.000 Especially when you're getting the data from pharmaceutical drug companies that have like a long history of criminal conduct.

00:43:34.000 Yes, they've got a vested interest in the research.

00:43:38.000 It's sort of like asking tobacco companies about whether smoking is dangerous.

00:43:42.000 It's exactly the same thing.

00:43:44.000 According to our scientists, everything's fine.

00:43:46.000 Yeah, they lied in court forever.

00:43:48.000 The same thing they do with OxyContin when they said that it wasn't addictive. 1.00

00:43:52.000 They have a long history of being full of shit if it makes them money, and that's what they do. 0.99

00:43:56.000 That's their business. 1.00

00:43:57.000 They've literally lost multi-billion dollar lawsuits.

00:44:01.000 Massive!

00:44:01.000 You have amazing scientists, right?

00:44:05.000 You have these clinical researchers, these people that develop these incredible drugs, and this is their job.

00:44:10.000 Their job is to figure out some new way to cure something, some new way to stop things, and then you have the money people.

00:44:17.000 And the problem is when you have this one thing that you would assume they're only doing it to help people, and then they have this other faction that just numbers people.

00:44:27.000 And all they give a fuck about is maximizing profits and making sure they literally have an obligation to their shareholders.

00:44:35.000 They have to make the most amount of money possible. 0.98

00:44:37.000 And so they just want to push it on everybody.

00:44:39.000 Like the Vioxx scandal.

00:44:41.000 There's internal emails showing they knew there was going to be cardiovascular events.

00:44:45.000 People were going to get strokes.

00:44:46.000 And they're like, I think we're still going to do well.

00:44:49.000 And they did.

00:44:50.000 They made like $12 billion, they got fined seven, and 50 to 60,000 people died. 1.00

00:44:55.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:44:56.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:57.000 One of them was a friend of mine who got a stroke.

00:44:59.000 And died?

00:44:59.000 No, he didn't die.

00:45:00.000 He lived, but he was a really healthy guy.

00:45:03.000 He was an athlete.

00:45:03.000 But he was psyched out the same afterwards.

00:45:04.000 Yeah, he had knee problems, and he took Vioxx, and all of a sudden he was slurring his words, and he couldn't concentrate, and people were like, I think you're having a fucking stroke, and they took him to the hospital, and then you have this giant class-action lawsuit, and then Vioxx gets pulled from the market, and they get sued, and the whole thing's fucking crazy,

00:45:20.000 but there's a long history of this.

00:45:22.000 I think, what is the number, like one-third of the drugs that the FDA approves gets pulled? 0.99

00:45:27.000 It's fucking bananas. 0.99

00:45:29.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:45:30.000 That's crazy! 0.99

00:45:31.000 You're shitty at one-third of the things that you say are okay, but yet you're trying to stop MDMA therapy for veterans? 0.98

00:45:38.000 Yeah, they should let MDMA through, honestly. 0.98

00:45:41.000 I think that would actually help a lot of people.

00:45:43.000 It would help a lot of people.

00:45:45.000 It would help a lot of people.

00:45:45.000 There's a lot of different therapies, specifically psilocybin, Ibogaine.

00:45:49.000 The fact that you have to go to Mexico to get Ibogaine therapy for veterans.

00:45:54.000 So many guys I've talked to have gone over there and it's like completely giving them a clean slate, refreshed their mind, and totally new perspective on life, alleviated depression, cured addictions.

00:46:06.000 Illegal.

00:46:07.000 Illegal.

00:46:08.000 Oxycontin, go get it!

00:46:10.000 Yeah.

00:46:11.000 And I know some people who, like, their life was ruined by Oxycontin.

00:46:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:16.000 Because, I mean, it really depends on, you know, somebody's individual biochemistry.

00:46:21.000 Like, to me, like, opioids are not addictive to me.

00:46:24.000 Like, you know, I've had them when I've had operations or something, and they barely affect my pain level, and they make me, like, itchy and uncomfortable.

00:46:33.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:46:34.000 They make me stupid. 1.00

00:46:36.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:46:36.000 But I'm like, I could never get addicted to alcohol or opioids. 1.00

00:46:42.000 It's just impossible.

00:46:44.000 Because my biochemistry does not have...

00:46:47.000 But I love tasty food.

00:46:51.000 I'm addicted to tasty food, sure.

00:46:54.000 Yeah.

00:46:55.000 I have a whole wall of alcohol that's there for decoration.

00:46:59.000 I feel the same way.

00:47:01.000 I could easily quit alcohol.

00:47:03.000 I'll go weeks without having a drink.

00:47:04.000 It doesn't bother me at all.

00:47:05.000 But I know some people, they have one drink and they're off to the races.

00:47:08.000 And that's the difference in the biochemical differences that we all have.

00:47:12.000 I think that's the case with a lot of addictions.

00:47:14.000 I'm not addicted to gambling, but I get it.

00:47:16.000 I see it.

00:47:17.000 I've seen it in people.

00:47:18.000 But I have this aversion to things that I know are going to ruin my life.

00:47:24.000 That's why I've never tried cocaine.

00:47:25.000 I just saw too many people.

00:47:27.000 It looks too fun.

00:47:28.000 I'm like, I don't want to get involved.

00:47:29.000 Yeah.

00:47:30.000 I mean, I think generally for any given drug, legal or illegal, the question is, can you complete the following sentence?

00:47:39.000 Blank made me a better person.

00:47:41.000 Met.

00:47:43.000 Like, I've never heard anyone say meth made them a better person or cocaine made them a better person.

00:47:47.000 No.

00:47:48.000 Ever.

00:47:49.000 Made a lot of soldiers better, I think.

00:47:52.000 That's...

00:47:53.000 Yeah, I mean, if you're doing...

00:47:53.000 If you're like...

00:47:55.000 If your soldiers need to march for three days in a row...

00:47:58.000 Yeah.

00:47:59.000 It's really good for that.

00:48:01.000 Meth is effective at that, you know.

00:48:03.000 Yeah, people give, like, France a hard time about, you know, capitulating in World War II. But you know what's worse than Nazis? 0.83

00:48:11.000 Nazis on meth. 0.97

00:48:12.000 Yeah.

00:48:14.000 They're not stopping.

00:48:15.000 Norman Ohler wrote this book.

00:48:17.000 They're like, they're still coming.

00:48:19.000 That book over there, Blitzed, is all about the use of methamphetamines and the different drugs that they gave their soldiers.

00:48:26.000 The guys at the front of the line, they gave the most meth.

00:48:28.000 Yes.

00:48:28.000 They have different dosages.

00:48:30.000 Yeah.

00:48:31.000 I mean, you just basically think you're vulnerable on meth. 1.00

00:48:35.000 And so it's one thing, like I said, it's one thing we have the Nazis come after you, but Nazis on meth, you're like, holy shit, those fuckers are not stopping, man. 1.00

00:48:43.000 For three days. 1.00

00:48:44.000 They're not stopping.

00:48:45.000 It's so crazy.

00:48:46.000 Yeah.

00:48:47.000 Yeah, that's not a statement, meth made me a better person, that you hear very often.

00:48:50.000 I've never heard that before.

00:48:51.000 No, you hear a lot of psilocybin advocates.

00:48:53.000 You hear a lot of people that talk about psychedelics.

00:48:56.000 Exactly.

00:48:57.000 I've actually heard many people say that LSD or mushrooms or MDMA made them a better person.

00:49:05.000 Many people.

00:49:06.000 Yeah.

00:49:06.000 So that's why I'm like, I think a rule for the FDA should be like, hey, look, if you can complete the sentence, legal or illegal, that blank made you a better person, actually, then you got a good drug.

00:49:20.000 And if you can't, you got a bad drug.

00:49:22.000 Also, if there's drugs that are available right now that can absolutely ruin people's lives, the rationalization for stopping other drugs that might ruin people's lives but also can help a lot of people's lives, it doesn't make any sense.

00:49:35.000 It's basically the same thing as censorship.

00:49:37.000 You're taking away people's ability to discern what's true and not true, and you're taking away people's ability to discern what's good for you and not good for you.

00:49:45.000 And the way to find that out is to have as much information as possible.

00:49:48.000 So to do research and actually to have unbiased, actual objective observers who are looking at all the stuff that give you real data.

00:49:57.000 Yes.

00:49:57.000 And the opposite of that or the counter is like if you don't do that, you're empowering cartels.

00:50:04.000 Yes.

00:50:05.000 That's the whole reason why they have all that money.

00:50:07.000 It's because it's illegal to sell these drugs in America.

00:50:10.000 The demand is never going away. 0.96

00:50:12.000 So instead of like limiting the amount of drugs, now you've got toxic drugs because fentanyl and all this other shit is because they're not pure. 0.99

00:50:21.000 So you're just killing people. 0.95

00:50:22.000 You're not saving anybody by protecting them from themselves.

00:50:26.000 True.

00:50:27.000 But it's a tricky situation, because what do you do?

00:50:29.000 Like, if you just, like, say, okay, now everyone can sell, all these people that have been selling boner pills, now you can sell meth. 0.99

00:50:36.000 Like, holy shit! 0.98

00:50:38.000 You get the double combo with the Viagra, it's a Viagra and a meth? 1.00

00:50:46.000 Right.

00:50:46.000 Jesus Christ.

00:50:47.000 Jesus Christ.

00:50:47.000 Oh my God.

00:50:48.000 Oh my God.

00:50:49.000 Well, I mean, how many people are already doing that right now with Adderall and Viagra?

00:50:53.000 There's a lot of people out there that are essentially on meth, especially people that abuse Adderall.

00:50:59.000 They're basically amphetamined up all day long.

00:51:03.000 Yeah, Adderall is low-grade amphetamine.

00:51:04.000 Yeah.

00:51:10.000 I have actually seen people become much worse people if they take too much Adderall, like much worse.

00:51:15.000 It's like an agro amplifier.

00:51:20.000 Adderall is something where there are pluses and minuses.

00:51:23.000 It's not a clear-cut issue.

00:51:24.000 It does help some people a great deal.

00:51:28.000 But in higher doses, man, that stuff, I've seen people turn into just raging monsters on high doses of Adderall.

00:51:36.000 They're just angry, like extremely angry, all the time.

00:51:40.000 Yeah, they're methed up.

00:51:42.000 Yeah, that's what happens if you take meth.

00:51:45.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:51:47.000 Meth turns you into a friggin' rage demon. 0.99

00:51:49.000 And so many prescriptions. 0.99

00:51:52.000 And I'm like, Jesus.

00:51:53.000 We Googled it.

00:51:54.000 One year, there was like 39 million prescriptions for Adderall in this country.

00:51:59.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:52:00.000 Once in a while there's an Adderall shortage and there's widespread panic, you know?

00:52:04.000 And then what do people do?

00:52:05.000 And then it's the same thing as when they tried to limit the amount of Oxycontin.

00:52:09.000 Well, people go to street heroin.

00:52:11.000 And if you're addicted to Adderall and your dealer, the guy who sells you weed, is like, hey, man, I can get you low-grade meth, like the stuff the Nazis took. 0.64

00:52:19.000 Well, they had high grade math, actually.

00:52:21.000 They had pharmaceutical grade.

00:52:22.000 They had epic math.

00:52:24.000 It was, like, made by the... 0.99

00:52:26.000 Like, pharmaceutical grade math is going to be...

00:52:28.000 Like, there's...

00:52:31.000 I mean, just look at the friggin' online Wikipedia page, but there's, like, many different versions of math.

00:52:36.000 Like, they're all the same.

00:52:38.000 And they have different effects.

00:52:40.000 So, but, like, pharmaceutical grade pure math, you are going to be...

00:52:44.000 Oh, my God.

00:52:45.000 Super productive.

00:52:46.000 Super productive for a certain period of time.

00:52:49.000 And you're not going to sleep for a while.

00:52:51.000 And then you will have some anger management issues.

00:52:55.000 So, like, they actually...

00:52:58.000 The Nazis, they did actually... 0.97

00:53:02.000 I would roll back how much meth they were using because they had quite a few incidents of the soldiers killing their officers because they were on too much meth.

00:53:15.000 Jesus Christ!

00:53:17.000 Yeah.

00:53:19.000 Too many officers got fragged by their platoon that was on too much meth.

00:53:27.000 That happened quite a few times.

00:53:30.000 When someone's had a lot of meth, they can get very angry.

00:53:36.000 Did you ever pay attention to when John McAfee was cooking meth in a lab in his backyard?

00:53:43.000 I mean, McReef's quite a character.

00:53:45.000 He was a character.

00:53:46.000 Character, man.

00:53:47.000 We had him on the podcast when he was on the run.

00:53:49.000 So he called in from an undisclosed location when he was running from...

00:53:53.000 Where was he?

00:53:53.000 Costa Rica?

00:53:54.000 Is that where he was?

00:53:55.000 Belize.

00:53:55.000 Belize, right.

00:53:57.000 So when he was running from the authorities, he called in.

00:53:59.000 We had him on the podcast on the run.

00:54:01.000 And I was asking him about these posts.

00:54:04.000 Because there was an online account that was linked to him where he had this very detailed laboratory, like super sophisticated, making the best meth.

00:54:14.000 Like a super genius cooking meth.

00:54:17.000 I mean, I think he was making a wide range of drugs.

00:54:24.000 I talked to a reporter who went down and interviewed him in Belize.

00:54:36.000 And the reporter said, man, that's one of the scariest things.

00:54:38.000 He was quite terrified.

00:54:41.000 So one of the things that McAfee, he had, I guess, this trick where he would play Russian roulette with himself.

00:54:49.000 So he'd put a bullet in the revolver and then spin the chamber.

00:54:53.000 And clearly he had like some trick to know that it was not, there's some way that he knows it's not the right bullet.

00:55:02.000 But I do wonder, like, if McAfee's high and he does that, he's not always going to get the trick right, you know?

00:55:07.000 Did you show he had a trick?

00:55:08.000 Yeah, so according to this reporter, when he went to visit McAfee in Belize, McAfee took out the revolver, put a bullet in the revolver, spun the chamber, and then pointed it at his head and went, click.

00:55:21.000 And the reporter's like saying, please don't do this.

00:55:23.000 Like, this is insane.

00:55:24.000 Click, click, click, and then pointed the gun at the ground, and next went, click, bang, and shot a bullet in the ground. 0.79

00:55:31.000 Jesus. 0.96

00:55:32.000 That's a hell of a potty trick. 0.99

00:55:35.000 It's a next level party trick.

00:55:37.000 That's the guy who's seen the deer hunter too many times.

00:55:39.000 Yes!

00:55:39.000 Remember that scene?

00:55:40.000 Yeah.

00:55:41.000 When they were forcing...

00:55:42.000 Yes.

00:55:42.000 Yeah.

00:55:43.000 Woo! 0.99

00:55:43.000 That's a heavy scene. 0.99

00:55:44.000 That's a heavy scene.

00:55:45.000 De Niro and Christopher Walken.

00:55:46.000 That's one of the greatest scenes in any movie ever.

00:55:48.000 I remember watching that scene just like clawing at my pants.

00:55:54.000 McAfee was a wild boy.

00:55:56.000 Wild.

00:55:56.000 And created brilliant antivirus software.

00:56:00.000 Yeah.

00:56:01.000 He may have made some of the viruses, too.

00:56:03.000 You think so?

00:56:05.000 Well, didn't he give laptops to a bunch of government organizations?

00:56:09.000 With viruses on them, yeah.

00:56:10.000 Yeah.

00:56:11.000 So that he could pay attention to what they were doing?

00:56:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:14.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:56:15.000 I wouldn't be surprised if somebody whacked that guy.

00:56:17.000 I don't know what happened to him, but he would be a guy that would be like, this guy is a little bit too loose.

00:56:24.000 He probably had sensitive information.

00:56:25.000 I don't know.

00:56:26.000 For sure he did.

00:56:27.000 I mean, I found out to be an interesting guy.

00:56:29.000 I mean, like, I'm generally, like, feel like if somebody is not harming someone else, they should be okay.

00:56:35.000 Now, there is some suggestion that McAfee, like, killed his neighbor in Belize.

00:56:42.000 Yeah.

00:56:44.000 Probably did. 1.00

00:56:45.000 Maybe the neighbor was a douchebag. 1.00

00:56:46.000 I think he probably did. 1.00

00:56:47.000 Seems like he probably did.

00:56:48.000 Seems like the neighbor killed his dog.

00:56:50.000 Yes.

00:56:51.000 Right?

00:56:51.000 And then it seems like he killed the neighbor.

00:56:52.000 Yeah.

00:56:53.000 Allegedly.

00:56:53.000 Yeah.

00:56:54.000 I mean...

00:56:55.000 It seems likely.

00:56:56.000 It's not a zero possibility.

00:56:58.000 It's definitely not zero.

00:57:01.000 It seems more likely than not.

00:57:02.000 He's a messed up wild man playing Russian roulette. 1.00

00:57:04.000 Hey, maybe you kill your fucking neighbor. 1.00

00:57:06.000 Yes. 1.00

00:57:06.000 I mean, if somebody killed your dog, you'd be really inclined to kill them, too. 1.00

00:57:10.000 Yeah. 0.73

00:57:10.000 Somebody killed your squirrel. 0.73

00:57:11.000 John Wick.

00:57:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:13.000 The fucking squirrel thing is bananas. 1.00

00:57:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:16.000 That squirrel thing in New York? 1.00

00:57:18.000 See, the other thing about the whole squirrel thing is that...

00:57:23.000 How can it be that we live in America, supposedly land of the free, and the government can barge into your home with guns, so if you resist, you're going to get shot, and then take your pets and execute them?

00:57:41.000 And if they can do that to your pets, what do you think they can do to you?

00:57:46.000 It's not an exaggeration.

00:57:48.000 Absolutely.

00:57:49.000 It sounds like you're, oh, that's so crazy.

00:57:52.000 How can you make that connection?

00:57:54.000 Why would you kill that cute little squirrel that was obviously a pet and trained from the time it was a baby?

00:57:59.000 If you see the interaction that guy has with that squirrel, it was wonderful.

00:58:03.000 It was really cute.

00:58:04.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:58:05.000 It was just obviously a blood pet squirrel and a raccoon too and doing no harm and the government comes in, barges into the guy's house, takes his pets and kills them.

00:58:23.000 I think this should really get people out there mobilized, frankly, because you see the John Wick movie where John Wick's like, he just wants peace in the John Wick movie.

00:58:37.000 He's like, listen, I want to retire.

00:58:39.000 And they offer him tons of money because they want him to be an assassin, to keep being an assassin.

00:58:44.000 They offer him tons of money.

00:58:47.000 They threaten him.

00:58:47.000 He's like, listen, I'm out.

00:58:50.000 And they kill his dog.

00:58:52.000 That was a bad idea. 0.98

00:58:56.000 That was a really...

00:58:58.000 They killed a cute little puppy and the puppy was his ex-wife's gift to him when she died of cancer.

00:59:03.000 Yeah.

00:59:04.000 Great movie.

00:59:05.000 Great movie.

00:59:05.000 The best revenge movie of all time.

00:59:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:59:08.000 Because it's so ridiculous. 1.00

00:59:09.000 He kills everybody. 1.00

00:59:10.000 Yeah, he kills everyone. 1.00

00:59:11.000 And you're rooting for him. 0.92

00:59:13.000 Yeah.

00:59:14.000 They shouldn't have killed his dog. 1.00

00:59:15.000 Yeah, they fucked up. 1.00

00:59:16.000 And they shouldn't have killed that squirrel. 1.00

00:59:18.000 They shouldn't have killed that fucking—that squirrel, I mean, it's like, how many cases have we not heard about, you know? 0.99

00:59:26.000 Aww, look at that little guy. 1.00

00:59:29.000 And that squirrel clearly had a love relationship with that guy.

00:59:33.000 He would hop all over him and climb on him.

00:59:36.000 I mean, that was his pet.

00:59:38.000 That squirrel thought of that man as his protector, as his companion.

00:59:44.000 There was nothing wrong with that.

00:59:46.000 And in Texas, it's totally legal. 1.00

00:59:48.000 You can have a fucking zebra out here. 1.00

00:59:50.000 You can have whatever you want. 1.00

00:59:51.000 And that's the argument for freedom.

00:59:54.000 You know, the flip side is you get a bunch of people with tigers in their backyard, which is not great. 0.99

01:00:00.000 This was a fucking squirrel. 0.99

01:00:01.000 It's not an anaconda or a crocodile or something that's going to harm you. 0.99

01:00:07.000 Or a chimpanzee.

01:00:08.000 Did you see Chimp Crazy? 1.00

01:00:09.000 Oh man, chimps will eat your face. 1.00

01:00:13.000 They will fuck you up. 1.00

01:00:14.000 They will fuck you up. 1.00

01:00:16.000 The thing is, they don't even kill you. 1.00

01:00:17.000 They just cripple you.

01:00:18.000 Chimps don't even kill people, which is really weird. 1.00

01:00:20.000 They just bite your hands off and bite your dick off and tear your face apart. 1.00

01:00:25.000 They want to leave you. 1.00

01:00:26.000 They could kill you easily. 1.00

01:00:27.000 If a chimp wanted to just punch you in the head until you're dead, it wouldn't take long. 1.00

01:00:30.000 But they don't kill you. 1.00

01:00:32.000 They just rip you apart.

01:00:34.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:00:34.000 And you can have a chimp! 0.98

01:00:37.000 Well, you used to be able to have a chimp in a lot of states, and then Chimp Crazy kind of exposed a lot of that, and PETA did a great job of stopping people from keeping chimps as pets.

01:00:45.000 Because once they hit, like, five, you can't control them anymore.

01:00:48.000 Well, it's obviously totally understandable if somebody's got, you know, a creature that is dangerous to others.

01:00:53.000 But, like, obviously a squirrel and a raccoon are not. 0.99

01:00:56.000 Well, squirrels are fucking everywhere. 0.99

01:00:57.000 That's what's so crazy. 0.99

01:00:58.000 Like, why can't you have it in the house?

01:01:00.000 What kind of rules are we dealing with?

01:01:01.000 You have rats everywhere.

01:01:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:01:05.000 I mean, they're allowing criminals to go free and violent criminals to go free, but they're spending your tax dollars to come in and execute your fucking pets. 1.00

01:01:13.000 What the hell is going on? 1.00

01:01:14.000 Exactly.

01:01:14.000 But it's overreach.

01:01:19.000 It's government overreach, and this just keeps getting worse every year.

01:01:22.000 And that's why we've got to fight back against this.

01:01:31.000 You know, people say, like, well, it's just a squirrel.

01:01:33.000 Well, it was, you know, in John Wick's case, it was just a dog.

01:01:37.000 Right.

01:01:39.000 Yeah.

01:01:40.000 You know? 1.00

01:01:41.000 Well, remember the Russian guy said, it's a fucking dog. 1.00

01:01:43.000 It's just a fucking dog. 1.00

01:01:45.000 It's just a fucking squirrel. 1.00

01:01:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:01:47.000 Yeah.

01:01:49.000 Well, it's the funniest thing.

01:01:51.000 I just don't understand how anybody can justify it.

01:01:55.000 It seems to me that in a logical world, all that guy would have to do is say, why don't you see me with this squirrel?

01:02:01.000 This squirrel's a pet.

01:02:02.000 Like, look, he hops on me.

01:02:04.000 He eats.

01:02:05.000 He sleeps.

01:02:06.000 I can keep a gerbil, but I can't keep a squirrel.

01:02:08.000 I can have a guinea pig.

01:02:09.000 I can't have a squirrel.

01:02:10.000 I can have a chinchilla.

01:02:12.000 My daughter has a chinchilla.

01:02:13.000 It's adorable.

01:02:14.000 Adorable little thing.

01:02:15.000 Climbs all over.

01:02:16.000 Can't have a squirrel.

01:02:17.000 Even if they did take a squirrel away, couldn't they have released it into the woods or something?

01:02:22.000 Well, the idea is you have to euthanize it because it's used to being fed.

01:02:25.000 It doesn't know how to forage.

01:02:27.000 It won't be able to find a home.

01:02:29.000 Squirrels are brutal.

01:02:31.000 Squirrels are absolutely brutal to each other.

01:02:32.000 They throw each other out of trees.

01:02:34.000 Which is one of the reasons why squirrels can fall from 30 feet and just kind of bounce off the ground and live.

01:02:40.000 It's a natural adaptation.

01:02:42.000 Because squirrels, during mating, they bite each other.

01:02:45.000 There used to be a rumor, there was a myth that squirrels bite each other's nuts off.

01:02:52.000 Okay.

01:02:52.000 That seems to be a myth, but it came out of the fact that squirrels are so ruthless during mating.

01:03:00.000 So only one female is just running away. 1.00

01:03:02.000 I have squirrels in my backyard.

01:03:03.000 I watch it all the time.

01:03:04.000 One female apparently goes into estrus and all the male squirrels fight to get to her.

01:03:08.000 So they're running up trees and chasing each other around trees, literally throwing each other off trees.

01:03:14.000 To try to, like, so if this poor little peanut, the squirrel, who's used to living with a guy in an apartment, like, gets out there in the wild world of squirrels.

01:03:22.000 Well, fair enough, but at least they have a chance.

01:03:24.000 Yeah, at least they have a chance.

01:03:25.000 But how about just leave him with the guy?

01:03:27.000 Yeah, leave him with the guy, for sure. 1.00

01:03:28.000 What the fuck is wrong with you? 1.00

01:03:29.000 Why are you killing that squirrel? 1.00

01:03:30.000 It doesn't make any sense. 0.66

01:03:32.000 Yeah, and then to add insult to injury, there were a bunch of people on the left who were actually posting that they're glad that the MAGA squirrel got killed. 0.81

01:03:39.000 MAGA squirrel. 1.00

01:03:40.000 Like the fucking squirrel has an ideology. 1.00

01:03:43.000 It's a cute little fluffy squirrel. 1.00

01:03:44.000 Exactly.

01:03:45.000 Well, it's a nice symbol because most reasonable, compassionate people think that's terrible.

01:03:52.000 And most people who have pets think it's terrible.

01:03:55.000 Terrible.

01:03:57.000 So, I don't know.

01:03:58.000 I mean, I'm like, I hope people just go out there and vote for Peanut, man.

01:04:01.000 If nothing else, just vote for Peanut, you know?

01:04:05.000 They've done such a job of painting Trump as a monster, you know?

01:04:09.000 They've taken the worst things that he's ever said, and he's not a perfect person, but guess what?

01:04:14.000 No one's a perfect person.

01:04:15.000 They don't exist.

01:04:16.000 This purity test, like, if Obama was a perfect person, he wouldn't be lying on stage about that, you know, very fine people hoax.

01:04:24.000 Exactly.

01:04:25.000 No one's going to be a perfect person, but the thing that they didn't understand about Trump is he's so crazy that if you tell him, like, he can't be president, like, remember Obama did that during that White House press correspondent?

01:04:39.000 There's one thing that I am that you'll never be.

01:04:42.000 President of the United States. 1.00

01:04:43.000 You see Trump in the United States going, okay, motherfucker. 1.00

01:04:45.000 You know, the funny thing is I was actually at that White House correspondence dinner. 1.00

01:04:51.000 Where, you know, it's supposed to be a roast of the president.

01:04:54.000 Right.

01:04:54.000 Trump's there.

01:04:55.000 He's there.

01:04:56.000 He's actually supporting.

01:04:58.000 You know, basically, if you go to the White House Correspondents Dinner, you're there in support, actually, of the president and support of the press.

01:05:05.000 Right.

01:05:06.000 And it's meant to be that you're roasting the president.

01:05:09.000 Like, Trump's just there.

01:05:10.000 He's, like, actually, you know, just he's, like, there as part of the support.

01:05:13.000 And then they turned it around and just started roasting Trump.

01:05:17.000 And he's just sitting there.

01:05:18.000 I'm like, he's like, yo, I just came to the dinner.

01:05:21.000 I wasn't...

01:05:22.000 I'm just here to support.

01:05:23.000 We know what it was because of, right?

01:05:25.000 The birther stuff.

01:05:27.000 Oh, okay.

01:05:27.000 That's what it all was.

01:05:29.000 Trump was at the head of a lot of these people spreading this rumor online that Obama's birth certificate was forged, that he's actually from Kenya.

01:05:39.000 What's weird is, if you go back to Obama's early days, there are some things that say he's from Kenya.

01:05:46.000 Like, I think something from college said he was from Kenya.

01:05:51.000 But, you know, that could just be, you know, people print things wrong all the time.

01:05:55.000 It doesn't mean he's actually from Kenya.

01:05:57.000 But Trump was one of those guys that was, like, spreading that supposedly false rumor.

01:06:03.000 Was he pushing it hard?

01:06:03.000 I mean, this is the kind of thing where I want to just go and look at saying, what did he actually say?

01:06:07.000 No, he definitely was.

01:06:09.000 He was definitely saying, you know...

01:06:10.000 Look, I don't think he has the time to go into things like very deeply.

01:06:17.000 And so I think he could probably be influenced by a bunch of people like these Marjorie Taylor Greene type people come to him with some wild ass theory.

01:06:25.000 He might be, and I think there's a lot of that stuff that gets fed to people on purpose so that they'll say incorrect things so that they're easy to dismiss. 0.95

01:06:35.000 And I think there's also a lot of people that just make shit up and, you know, they tell you the earth is flat and then a bunch of people watch a YouTube video and they believe it. 0.92

01:06:43.000 Yeah, well, but on that White House correspondent, I was there and the degree to which they attacked Trump at that White House correspondent was really – it was so over the top. 0.99

01:06:55.000 It was like making everyone uncomfortable.

01:06:58.000 It was really over the top.

01:07:01.000 A few passing jokes were fine, but they twisted the knife big on Trump.

01:07:11.000 And you could see Trump just getting angrier and angrier and more and more upset.

01:07:15.000 And it's like, man, this is not good karma.

01:07:19.000 That's what I was thinking at the time.

01:07:20.000 I was two tables away from Trump, and I'm looking and I'm like, man, this is too much.

01:07:26.000 Well, it's kind of crazy what they made out of that because that's the kind of guy that if you tell him he can't do something, he's going to just keep trying.

01:07:34.000 It was a big mistake to rag on him so much at that White House Correspondent Center.

01:07:38.000 Well, just look at the way they've attacked him just using the legal system like this thing in New York where the 34 different felony counts are essentially misdemeanors.

01:07:49.000 There are bookkeeping errors that they decided, even though it passed the statute of limitations, they decided to try him for these.

01:07:56.000 They didn't identify a felony.

01:07:58.000 Abuse of the law is what's going on.

01:08:00.000 But most people would have quit.

01:08:02.000 Most people, after the E. Gene Carroll lawsuit and this lawsuit and all the other ones, the insurrection thing, the Georgia thing, all these different things, getting kicked off of Twitter.

01:08:11.000 Most people would have just like, this is too much.

01:08:13.000 I can't take this. 1.00

01:08:14.000 But he's so fucking crazy. 1.00

01:08:16.000 He's like, all right, come on, we're going to war. 1.00

01:08:18.000 And he just... 1.00

01:08:19.000 Digs his fucking heels in and keeps going. 1.00

01:08:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:08:22.000 It's the wrong guy to do that to. 1.00

01:08:25.000 It is the wrong guy to do that to.

01:08:26.000 Just like attacking him at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, most people would have been humiliated.

01:08:30.000 He got angry.

01:08:31.000 And he's like, yeah, alright.

01:08:33.000 You say I can't be president? 0.99

01:08:33.000 I've been thinking about running for about 15 fucking years. 0.99

01:08:36.000 Finally, I'm going to run. 0.99

01:08:37.000 Yeah.

01:08:38.000 Yeah.

01:08:39.000 That was a real bad move.

01:08:42.000 But, yeah, I mean, I can certainly understand, like, making some jokes about, like, you know...

01:08:48.000 A few sort of passing jokes on Trump, but man, I was there at that dinner and they ragged on Trump so much it was insane.

01:08:54.000 The reason why I would push back on that, because I would say there's a bunch of different speakers, right?

01:09:01.000 And Trump would obviously be a target.

01:09:02.000 And if they all attacked him, it's because he's like...

01:09:05.000 If you're going to make fun of people in the audience, and especially in the zeitgeist, that whole birther thing was big.

01:09:11.000 And most people were dismissing it as being a ridiculous conspiracy theory. 0.99

01:09:15.000 So who the fuck is this guy saying this? 0.99

01:09:18.000 And so you have... 0.99

01:09:19.000 Eight to ten individual speakers that are writing monologues.

01:09:23.000 Of course they're all going to hit Trump.

01:09:26.000 Yeah, well, anyway, obviously it was a mistake.

01:09:28.000 They shouldn't have done that.

01:09:30.000 But I invite people to watch that original source material, and I think a few jokes are fine, you know, but it's like, it felt like he was the primary object of the roast.

01:09:42.000 The whole point of the thing is it's the roast of the president, not the audience.

01:09:47.000 The thing about it is he's easy to roast.

01:09:49.000 And then on top of that, Obama was loved and cherished by the left.

01:09:54.000 And most of those people are on the left.

01:09:56.000 There's only so far you can push.

01:09:59.000 You can't ask him about a chef.

01:10:02.000 What happened with the chef, bro?

01:10:04.000 There's certain things you can't bring up.

01:10:08.000 What's your favorite sport?

01:10:09.000 Paddleboarding?

01:10:10.000 Yeah.

01:10:10.000 Wasn't that guy a really good swimmer?

01:10:14.000 Tell me what happened.

01:10:15.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:16.000 You can't bring that up.

01:10:17.000 Like, if you're going to roast Hillary, you can't bring up the death count.

01:10:20.000 Like, Hillary, what's the best way to stay in touch?

01:10:22.000 Email?

01:10:25.000 Yeah, if you're doing one of those things.

01:10:28.000 She destroyed the servers and poured bleach on the servers, like computers. 1.00

01:10:31.000 She poured bleach on them? 1.00

01:10:32.000 Yeah, that's what I believe.

01:10:33.000 Wow.

01:10:34.000 It wasn't just like they took a hammer to it.

01:10:36.000 There was no possible way to actually get forensics on the thing.

01:10:41.000 What was in there?

01:10:43.000 What was in there?

01:10:48.000 Why would they care so much?

01:10:49.000 That's so crazy.

01:10:50.000 Yeah.

01:10:51.000 The whole thing is so crazy.

01:10:52.000 And there was no legal action against that, which was clear destruction of evidence.

01:10:56.000 Well, it's also – there's this other narrative that always drives me crazy, is that he's going to destroy democracy.

01:11:02.000 So in order to destroy democracy, we have to install a president without a primary.

01:11:07.000 We have to have a candidate that is the least-liked vice president of all time, the least popular vice president of all time, and then use gaslighting and the full force of the media machine to turn her into the future and hope. 0.83

01:11:22.000 And then she's going to be changed, even though she's a sitting vice president. 0.97

01:11:26.000 And then on top of that, this idea of change when the Democrats have been in control for, what, 12 or 16 years?

01:11:32.000 Right.

01:11:33.000 Which is crazy.

01:11:34.000 Like, this is the change.

01:11:35.000 It's right.

01:11:36.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously, I view the selection as a turning point, like a fork in the road of destiny, that is incredibly important.

01:11:43.000 You know, I've not been politically active until this election.

01:11:47.000 And the reason I've been politically active this election is because I think if we don't If we don't elect Trump, I think we will lose democracy in this country.

01:11:58.000 We will lose the two-party system.

01:12:01.000 And let me explain why.

01:12:02.000 So there's only like six or seven swing states.

01:12:06.000 The margin of victory in those states is small, often like 10,000 or 20,000 votes.

01:12:11.000 What the Democrat administration has been doing is importing vast numbers of illegals into swing states.

01:12:18.000 You can look at the numbers on the actual government website, meaning you don't take my word for it.

01:12:22.000 You'll just look at the numbers as reported by the government, which is controlled by the Democrats.

01:12:27.000 And what we're seeing is triple-digit increases in the number of illegals in every swing state.

01:12:32.000 In some cases, 700% increases.

01:12:35.000 These are gigantic numbers.

01:12:38.000 So if you have a state that has a 10,000 or 20,000 vote margin and you put 200,000 illegals into that state, it's not a swing state anymore.

01:12:50.000 It's gonna vote blue.

01:12:52.000 And then once the swing states vote blue, there is no election anymore.

01:12:58.000 There's only a Democrat primary.

01:13:01.000 Which is so crazy.

01:13:02.000 And it's so crazy that people are fine with that.

01:13:05.000 Well, I guess people on the left will be fine with that because they think that's a good idea.

01:13:09.000 They just want to win.

01:13:10.000 They just want to win.

01:13:11.000 Correct.

01:13:11.000 The thing is, one does not need actually any grand conspiracy theory for this.

01:13:16.000 You just have to look at the simple matter of incentives.

01:13:19.000 If the Democrat Party wants to basically achieve permanent victory, all they need to do is turn the swing states.

01:13:27.000 Turn the swing states blue, they have permanent victory. 0.92

01:13:30.000 And then we're a one-party state.

01:13:33.000 And then they will keep doing that, obviously.

01:13:35.000 They will keep stacking the deck by bringing in vast numbers of illegals into the swing states. 0.99

01:13:42.000 Keep stacking it so that the next election, each successive election, will be worse than the last one.

01:13:47.000 And that's what's happening.

01:13:48.000 And if you want to see, like, well, is this actually going to happen?

01:13:50.000 Look at California.

01:13:52.000 California is supermajority dem.

01:13:54.000 70% dem.

01:13:56.000 A month ago, they passed a law making it illegal to show ID in any election in California.

01:14:04.000 So a friend of mine went to vote in Palo Alto because he was like, is this for real?

01:14:10.000 He tried to show his ID and they reacted like if you show a cross to a vampire.

01:14:18.000 They're like, no, we can't even look at that ID. It is illegal for them to even look at your ID if you want to present it in California.

01:14:26.000 Why?

01:14:26.000 For any election at all, even like city council.

01:14:29.000 What logical reason other than to cheat would you ever have that law?

01:14:34.000 The reason is to cheat.

01:14:35.000 You can never make an argument any other way.

01:14:39.000 And I think 84% of people polled believe that you should show ID to vote.

01:14:44.000 So it's against the will of the people.

01:14:46.000 Yes.

01:14:46.000 And we are extremely rare.

01:14:49.000 We're an outlier in not requiring ID. Basically, almost every country on earth requires ID to vote.

01:14:56.000 So, as soon as you ban ID for voting, it makes fraud impossible to prove.

01:15:03.000 Because how do you trace the fraud?

01:15:05.000 Right.

01:15:06.000 Yeah, it's insane.

01:15:09.000 It's insane.

01:15:10.000 It's insane.

01:15:11.000 And what I'm saying is that— How is it legal?

01:15:13.000 What I'm saying is, like, this election is the last chance to preserve democracy in America.

01:15:20.000 Mark my words.

01:15:22.000 Everything they accuse Trump of, they are guilty of.

01:15:26.000 And if Trump doesn't win, this will be the last real election in America.

01:15:31.000 And if the big government Kamala puppet machine wins, they will legalize the illegals in the swing states. 0.97

01:15:41.000 There will be no swing states.

01:15:42.000 Every election going forward will be a guaranteed Democrat win.

01:15:48.000 And it'll actually be worse than California.

01:15:50.000 The reason it'll be worse than California is because the one thing that keeps California from being super crazy is that you can move out of California, like you and I did.

01:16:00.000 You and I used to be in California, but we moved to Texas.

01:16:04.000 We're still in America.

01:16:05.000 But if the Dems won this election, they will legalize enough illegals to turn the swing states, and everywhere will be like California. 0.90

01:16:14.000 There will be no escape.

01:16:16.000 That is so insane.

01:16:17.000 This is the final.

01:16:19.000 This is it.

01:16:21.000 This is the last chance.

01:16:23.000 Has anybody tried to push back?

01:16:25.000 Go out and vote.

01:16:28.000 Vote like your life depends on it.

01:16:29.000 Vote like your future depends on it.

01:16:30.000 Because it does.

01:16:32.000 This is the last chance, man.

01:16:36.000 Is there any argument against this?

01:16:39.000 Has anybody tried to debate this?

01:16:41.000 Has anybody tried to say that this is nonsense?

01:16:43.000 This is a conspiracy?

01:16:45.000 Has anybody made any sort of a rational argument?

01:16:51.000 The left actually, interestingly, does not want to pick up much on this argument because the more attention, the more you look at it, the more obviously it is true.

01:17:00.000 Because you just say like, well, are the numbers correct?

01:17:05.000 Are there really this many illegals that have been imported into swing states?

01:17:09.000 Yes.

01:17:09.000 They haven't just walked across the border.

01:17:11.000 They've been flown in.

01:17:13.000 Flown in airplanes.

01:17:15.000 Yeah.

01:17:15.000 Using a shipping app.

01:17:17.000 Yes.

01:17:18.000 They made an app.

01:17:19.000 Well, the app always existed, but it used to be for people coming over here, like, shipping with goods, so they could track you while you're in America, so you could legally be here, they know where you are.

01:17:28.000 And then they changed it to allow that app to schedule.

01:17:32.000 Illegal aliens to come across the border. 0.85

01:17:35.000 Asylum seekers.

01:17:37.000 Come on in.

01:17:37.000 Oh, you have an app.

01:17:39.000 And you fly people in.

01:17:41.000 They're literally being flown in to the swing states.

01:17:45.000 So the reason that I think the left doesn't want to push back on this is because the more attention that this gets, the more people realize it is true.

01:17:55.000 Yeah, it is true.

01:17:56.000 That's why they don't – that's why they're just pretending – they're pretending I'm not saying anything.

01:18:00.000 But I'm like, yo, they're literally flying vast numbers of illegals who are then beholden to the Democrats.

01:18:07.000 And sometimes I get the rebuttal of people who say like, well – You know, these illegals are – they don't have the same social values as the Democrat Party because they're like more socially conservative.

01:18:19.000 I'm like, yeah, but that's not the point.

01:18:22.000 If you look at the Maslow's hierarchy of needs, their primary thing is staying in the country and getting their friends and family in and then the Democrats give them all these benefits, like tons of benefits.

01:18:33.000 More benefits than citizens.

01:18:36.000 Literally.

01:18:37.000 Yeah.

01:18:38.000 So they're beholden to the Democrats for all these benefits.

01:18:42.000 They want to get their friends and family in, which the Democrats support and the Republicans don't, so they vote Dem.

01:18:47.000 And you can look empirically at California and say, like, did they vote Republican or Democrat in California?

01:18:53.000 Oh, they voted Democrat.

01:18:55.000 Big time.

01:18:55.000 Well, Reagan gave them amnesty in the 1980s, and that changed the state basically, except for Arnold, changed the state entirely blue.

01:19:04.000 Yes.

01:19:05.000 And Arnold was an exception because he was like a socially liberal, famous guy.

01:19:09.000 Yeah.

01:19:10.000 And, you know, didn't really impose any radical restrictions on any of the people that were going to vote Democrat in the first place.

01:19:17.000 The whole thing is just, it's bizarre to watch play out because it just seems like, no, this can't be actually what's happening.

01:19:27.000 Did you see my conversation with Fetterman about it?

01:19:29.000 Yeah.

01:19:29.000 He was completely in denial about it.

01:19:31.000 I don't think there's that level of organization.

01:19:32.000 I'm like, what are you talking about?

01:19:37.000 Exactly.

01:19:37.000 Because you can break it down to, like, are any of these numbers wrong?

01:19:41.000 Because we got these numbers from HomelandSecurityGovernment.gov, okay?

01:19:46.000 Right.

01:19:47.000 So we got it from the.gov website.

01:19:49.000 Has the government reported these numbers incorrectly?

01:19:52.000 No, they have not.

01:19:53.000 Those numbers, if anything, are low.

01:19:55.000 So, okay, so they have in fact flown vast numbers of illegals to swing states.

01:20:00.000 Yeah.

01:20:02.000 Bypassing the border entirely.

01:20:03.000 And so that is factually true.

01:20:07.000 Then you say like, well, what is their probable voting pattern?

01:20:11.000 Oh, okay, overwhelmingly Democrat into swing states.

01:20:15.000 And then, well, do the Democrats actually want to fast-track them for citizenship?

01:20:20.000 Oh, yes, they do.

01:20:22.000 You can see Chuck Schumer on TV saying, at a rally this year, was saying he wants to fast-track and make all 11 million, or however many, I believe his quote was, citizens as soon as possible.

01:20:40.000 The goal is to – they are fast-tracking citizenship as quickly as possible so they can – whether one thinks it's cheating or not, it won't matter because they will be fully able to vote.

01:20:49.000 And for people on the left – This is actually happening.

01:20:53.000 I invite people to rebut this and show me where I am wrong.

01:20:56.000 Please do so.

01:20:57.000 No, they can't.

01:20:58.000 They can't.

01:20:59.000 They can't.

01:20:59.000 Because it's true.

01:21:00.000 Well, what's scary to me is that there's people that are on the left, like people that were Bernie Sanders supporters, for example.

01:21:07.000 Talk about undermining democracy.

01:21:11.000 Bernie should have won the nomination, and they stole it from him and gave it to Hillary. 0.98

01:21:15.000 Exactly.

01:21:16.000 That's what I was going to bring up.

01:21:19.000 Control the primary process.

01:21:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:21.000 So if you have a Democratic primary, it's not Democratic.

01:21:27.000 We just saw that.

01:21:28.000 We saw it with Bernie.

01:21:28.000 We saw it with Kamala.

01:21:30.000 A week before Biden was summarily fired, he was posting that he's in it for the long term.

01:21:38.000 He's going.

01:21:40.000 He's not giving up.

01:21:42.000 Next thing you know, Sunday afternoon, they're posting on X that he's resigned from the race.

01:21:50.000 And his staff didn't even know.

01:21:52.000 Like, they're reading it on the X platform.

01:21:55.000 Okay, that's how they learned about it.

01:21:57.000 What do you think happened there?

01:21:58.000 How did they do that?

01:22:02.000 He's clearly just not in charge, obviously.

01:22:04.000 They could have used the 25th Amendment, right? 0.90

01:22:06.000 Fake president.

01:22:07.000 But they would have had to admit that there was a certain period of time where they knew that he was mentally compromised. 0.96

01:22:12.000 Yes.

01:22:13.000 And so they made this decision to not do that.

01:22:16.000 Well, the weird thing is that the president's supposed to be the boss.

01:22:20.000 Right.

01:22:20.000 And yet he's obviously not the boss.

01:22:22.000 Right.

01:22:23.000 So who's running the country?

01:22:24.000 If she's busy campaigning, she's so busy she can't do anything except Saturday Night Live.

01:22:28.000 She did that. 0.99

01:22:29.000 She's so busy.

01:22:30.000 She's constantly campaigning.

01:22:31.000 How could you be paying attention to international relations?

01:22:35.000 How could you be paying attention to the economy?

01:22:38.000 How could you be paying attention to any of those things?

01:22:40.000 How do you have the time?

01:22:41.000 You can't.

01:22:42.000 Yeah.

01:22:42.000 I mean, Biden being – the president is supposed to be the CEO, the chief guy.

01:22:48.000 He was the commander-in-chief.

01:22:50.000 But it's just obviously that Biden was not. 0.98

01:22:52.000 He was just a puppet.

01:22:53.000 And when the various puppet masters decided that the puppet was no longer useful, they just tossed out the puppet and then got a new puppet with Kamala.

01:23:04.000 I mean, Kamala can't even talk. 1.00

01:23:06.000 You invited her on your show.

01:23:08.000 I think the most damage that could possibly be done to her campaign is going on your show and seeing what she says in hours two and three.

01:23:17.000 Two and three is when things get spicy.

01:23:19.000 Two and three.

01:23:20.000 And I'm like, oh my god.

01:23:21.000 You can hide for 20 minutes.

01:23:22.000 She's gonna melt.

01:23:23.000 You can hide for 20 minutes.

01:23:24.000 Exactly.

01:23:25.000 Yeah.

01:23:25.000 I mean, you can just regurgitate talking points for, you know, half an hour, maybe an hour, just where she's just saying, like, non sequiturs, but eventually she just runs out of non sequiturs.

01:23:36.000 Well, they wanted to limit it to an hour.

01:23:38.000 Exactly, that's why.

01:23:39.000 But I was thinking of doing it initially.

01:23:42.000 Before Trump came here, first of all, when they found out that there was a rumor, I never announced that Trump was coming.

01:23:49.000 What I was going to do is just release it.

01:23:51.000 The way I like to do things, I don't like to tell anybody who's coming on, it'll get big no matter what.

01:23:56.000 If Trump was on, it would have been huge.

01:23:57.000 I'm like, just put it out there.

01:23:58.000 People go crazy.

01:24:00.000 But he apparently, or someone from his organization, some loose lips, and then it got out.

01:24:04.000 And so she contacted my management company, and her organization, her campaign contacted us and said, would Joe have her on?

01:24:14.000 I said, yes.

01:24:15.000 And they said, she wants you to fly to where she is, and she's only willing to do 45 minutes.

01:24:22.000 And I was like, I don't know.

01:24:24.000 So I thought about doing it.

01:24:25.000 I'm like, maybe.

01:24:26.000 Maybe I can get a sense.

01:24:28.000 Maybe I could convince her.

01:24:29.000 Maybe I could coax her into doing more time.

01:24:31.000 I just wanted to talk to her. 0.99

01:24:33.000 I don't give a fuck what we talk about. 0.99

01:24:34.000 We talk about recipes. 1.00

01:24:35.000 I don't give a shit. 1.00

01:24:36.000 Just talk to me. 1.00

01:24:39.000 You can't just output bullshit non sequiturs for three hours. 1.00

01:24:44.000 Right. 0.99

01:24:45.000 But for 45 minutes you could do.

01:24:47.000 I thought maybe for 45 minutes I could get something out of it.

01:24:50.000 But then when Trump came and did the three hours, I was like, you know what?

01:24:53.000 It has to be like this.

01:24:54.000 This is the only way.

01:24:55.000 To be fair, it's got to be like three hours.

01:24:57.000 And it should be in this room.

01:24:58.000 Yes.

01:24:59.000 Because this room has like a history of people expressing themselves.

01:25:02.000 This room has good vibes, actually.

01:25:02.000 Yeah, it's got good vibes.

01:25:04.000 Yeah, it does.

01:25:04.000 I love this room, actually.

01:25:05.000 I subscribe to the idea that places have memory.

01:25:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:25:09.000 I think there's something real to that.

01:25:11.000 It does feel that way, actually.

01:25:12.000 Yeah.

01:25:13.000 I'm sure if you go to Diddy's house, it probably feels real weird.

01:25:16.000 Probably feels weird walking around that house. 0.99

01:25:17.000 Probably like, what the fuck happened here? 0.99

01:25:21.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:25:22.000 I've been through some memories in that house.

01:25:24.000 You know?

01:25:25.000 Sounds rough, man.

01:25:26.000 Well, it's just amazing how many people in the Diddy party list that are supporting Kamala.

01:25:30.000 Yeah, seriously.

01:25:30.000 It's like insane.

01:25:31.000 Publicly, openly, like all in.

01:25:33.000 Yes.

01:25:34.000 It's like J-Lo was like his ex-girlfriend.

01:25:38.000 And it's like now deciding she's like warning people against Trump.

01:25:43.000 I'm like, well, wait a second.

01:25:44.000 So how many people did she warn against Diddy?

01:25:46.000 Right.

01:25:46.000 Oh, zero.

01:25:47.000 Okay.

01:25:48.000 Well, maybe we shouldn't trust her opinion.

01:25:50.000 Did you see the Babylon Bee's take on it?

01:25:52.000 Did you see the Babylon Bee?

01:25:54.000 Babylon Bee's awesome, but...

01:25:55.000 Oh my god, they're so on fire.

01:25:57.000 Because the left can't say anything.

01:25:59.000 The onion has been crippled.

01:26:01.000 Well, the problem is that...

01:26:03.000 Find that pose.

01:26:05.000 The woke ideology makes humor illegal.

01:26:08.000 Yes.

01:26:08.000 So when there's so many humor no-fly zones, you can't make fun of anything.

01:26:14.000 Yeah.

01:26:16.000 Babylon Bee had a thing about Kamala Harris. 1.00

01:26:18.000 Diddy's ex-girlfriend urges Americans to trust her judgment.

01:26:21.000 By the way, you get to see how bad an actress she is, too. 1.00

01:26:25.000 That speech was terrible.

01:26:26.000 If she's going to be warning people, why does she never warn anyone about Diddy?

01:26:30.000 Exactly.

01:26:31.000 The whole thing is so strange to watch play out.

01:26:35.000 It seems like the Diddy thing was like an Epstein-type compromise deal, where he was doing it himself.

01:26:43.000 Conceivably, people want to think that he's attached to some intelligence agency or something like that.

01:26:48.000 I think he's a gangster who made a billion dollars and knew how to control people by compromising them.

01:26:54.000 That's what I think.

01:26:55.000 Whether or not he had help, I don't know.

01:26:57.000 Whether or not he shared some of that information with people so they knew they had compromising stuff on people, I don't know.

01:27:03.000 But clearly he was doing it for his own jollies too.

01:27:07.000 There was something sick about it.

01:27:08.000 Yeah.

01:27:09.000 I mean, the thing is that people in the music and entertainment industry had to know that he was abusing kids, basically.

01:27:18.000 And yet they still fed him kids.

01:27:21.000 There had to be rumors.

01:27:24.000 There had to be.

01:27:25.000 There had to be.

01:27:25.000 They had to know.

01:27:27.000 They had to know.

01:27:28.000 Cat Williams is talking about it.

01:27:29.000 Exactly.

01:27:30.000 Yeah, on that podcast.

01:27:32.000 But it's like who's feeding him the kids, you know?

01:27:34.000 Right.

01:27:35.000 Right.

01:27:37.000 Yeah.

01:27:37.000 And what videos do they have of these people where they're willing to defend him and they're willing to keep quiet about all this?

01:27:46.000 Like, how many people were compromised?

01:27:48.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:49.000 The whole thing is fucking crazy. 0.99

01:27:51.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:27:51.000 It's just crazy when you, you know, because the nutty conspiracy theories is like, oh, there's a bunch of pedophiles in Hollywood. 1.00

01:27:57.000 And you're like, come on, that sounds too kooky. 1.00

01:28:00.000 And then you see, like, the Nickelodeon thing and all these different, and you're like, what the fuck? 0.98

01:28:05.000 How much of this is real? 0.97

01:28:07.000 There's a lot more real than I think people realize.

01:28:09.000 Yeah.

01:28:10.000 I mean, part of it is, like you said, if someone's a pedophile, they're going to go for a target-rich environment.

01:28:17.000 Right.

01:28:18.000 Obviously.

01:28:18.000 Like that Jimmy Savile guy from the UK. Man, that guy was some next level.

01:28:21.000 That was next level.

01:28:22.000 And the BBC tried to hide that one. 0.99

01:28:24.000 That guy was one of the worst, basically, child rapists of all time. 0.99

01:28:30.000 Of all time. 1.00

01:28:31.000 Of all time.

01:28:31.000 Yeah.

01:28:32.000 And looked like one. 0.59

01:28:33.000 It looked like one.

01:28:34.000 That's what's crazy. 0.99

01:28:35.000 Honestly, if you had a poster of like, does this guy look like a- Look the creepiest fucking looking guy. 1.00

01:28:39.000 Like an evil child rapist. 1.00

01:28:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:28:41.000 That 100%.

01:28:41.000 He made it to the grave.

01:28:43.000 Like, got away with it.

01:28:45.000 Got away with it until he died.

01:28:46.000 They hid it from people until he died.

01:28:48.000 Yes.

01:28:49.000 Yeah, that stuff's real.

01:28:51.000 And no one wants to believe that stuff's real.

01:28:53.000 Like, here's a statistic that people need to take into consideration when you think about illegal immigration.

01:28:59.000 Do you know how many kids are missing?

01:29:01.000 Like, missing in what?

01:29:03.000 Kids that came across the border that are unaccounted for.

01:29:06.000 I mean, I saw a number on like 300,000 or something like that.

01:29:08.000 Something crazy like that.

01:29:09.000 Let's say it's only 10% of that.

01:29:11.000 That's still insane.

01:29:13.000 Yeah.

01:29:13.000 That's insane.

01:29:15.000 There's thousands and tens of thousands of kids that have been trafficked, potentially.

01:29:21.000 I mean, when you know that, like, sex trafficking and child trafficking is a real thing in the world.

01:29:26.000 It's real.

01:29:27.000 Yeah.

01:29:28.000 So if you know that... 1.00

01:29:30.000 This whole thing is fucking disgusting and terrifying. 0.99

01:29:34.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99

01:29:35.000 And people are just turning a blind eye to it because their ideology, the left-wing ideology supports this idea that immigration is overall good and that you have to be a compassionate person to let these people in and that you're racist if you don't want 20,000 immigrants from a war-torn country being imported into a town of 30,000 people and completely changing the dynamic.

01:29:56.000 And then But as long as they don't come to your town.

01:29:58.000 Exactly.

01:29:59.000 Like, that's it.

01:29:59.000 Exactly.

01:30:00.000 They can just basically send, you know, when they send, like, whatever, like, 20 or 30 people to Martha's Binance, people who had a heart attack.

01:30:06.000 They kicked them out!

01:30:07.000 Yeah, they kicked them out.

01:30:08.000 Yeah, they kicked them out.

01:30:09.000 Exactly.

01:30:10.000 So I'm like, yeah, sure.

01:30:11.000 Anyone who wants to have vast numbers of illegals, they have to be prepared to have them in their neighborhood. 1.00

01:30:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:30:18.000 Or it's bullshit. 1.00

01:30:20.000 It's so crazy. 1.00

01:30:21.000 And the thing about all of this is if you don't have people that are willing to stand up and talk about it, if you don't exist, if RFK doesn't exist, if Tulsi Gabbard doesn't exist, if the vacant Trump don't exist, where the fuck are we? 0.97

01:30:34.000 Like, where are we? 0.91

01:30:36.000 Where are we and what gets done?

01:30:37.000 Are we just like the UK where we have thousands of people getting arrested and jailed for social media posts?

01:30:43.000 Like, where are we?

01:30:43.000 We have complete silencing of any dissent, anything.

01:30:47.000 You have to stick to the narrative or you'll lose your livelihood, you'll be outcast from the community, you'll lose your freedom.

01:30:56.000 It's crazy.

01:30:57.000 Yeah.

01:30:58.000 Well, if the Kamala Puppet regime wins, they're definitely going to want to cancel you. 0.96

01:31:01.000 That's for sure.

01:31:02.000 Oh, for sure.

01:31:03.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:31:03.000 Yeah, it's going to be a problem.

01:31:04.000 Yeah, big problem.

01:31:05.000 Yeah.

01:31:05.000 What about you?

01:31:06.000 You're going to come for you first.

01:31:08.000 I'm like, I think I'm probably number two on the list.

01:31:12.000 Yeah.

01:31:13.000 After Trump.

01:31:13.000 Yeah.

01:31:14.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:31:15.000 Well, that's the last thing they want is someone with unlimited resources and intelligence attacking it.

01:31:21.000 So people go, wait, is that guy saying that?

01:31:23.000 Yeah.

01:31:23.000 Anyway, especially a guy like you who's always been on the left.

01:31:26.000 It was like having a Tesla in Los Angeles when I got my first Tesla was like a signal to everybody else that you were on the right team.

01:31:33.000 Sure.

01:31:33.000 You're environmentally conscious.

01:31:35.000 You believe in green energy.

01:31:36.000 You believe in this amazing thing that has zero emissions and it's super fast.

01:31:42.000 Everybody was in.

01:31:43.000 They were all in.

01:31:44.000 Well, it is a great car, objectively.

01:31:46.000 Oh, yeah.

01:31:47.000 Yeah, you know, it's not buy it because it's electric.

01:31:49.000 I mean, it's just a great car, objectively, I think.

01:31:51.000 I'm on my third one.

01:31:52.000 My third one is being built right now by Unplugged Performance.

01:31:56.000 They're doing a carbon fiber wide body kit on it.

01:32:00.000 Dude, it's sick.

01:32:01.000 Changing the suspension, putting wide wheels and tires on it.

01:32:04.000 Custom interior. 0.98

01:32:05.000 I'm fucking pumped. 0.98

01:32:06.000 That's great. 0.99

01:32:07.000 I'm pumped.

01:32:07.000 I love those things.

01:32:08.000 It's a super fun car.

01:32:09.000 Jamie has one too.

01:32:10.000 I love them.

01:32:11.000 I love them. 0.99

01:32:12.000 It makes other cars feel stupid, like its ability. 0.99

01:32:16.000 And the fact that you can merge on the highway, you don't seem like a douchebag because it's totally silent. 0.99

01:32:20.000 It's not like...

01:32:21.000 Like when you merge on the highway, it's just...

01:32:24.000 All of a sudden you're going 100 miles an hour.

01:32:26.000 Like, what?

01:32:26.000 Yeah, that's cool.

01:32:27.000 It's different than any other vehicle.

01:32:29.000 And because of your company, now you see electric cars throughout the whole range of American cars.

01:32:37.000 The only person who's resisted, the only company is Toyota.

01:32:40.000 They've stayed essentially mostly hybrid.

01:32:42.000 But all these other companies, they're all putting out these electric cars.

01:32:48.000 Yeah.

01:32:48.000 I mean, the thing is that the right architecture, environmental or not, for cars is actually electric.

01:32:54.000 It's just, like, the acceleration's better.

01:32:57.000 You can just charge it at home.

01:32:59.000 I mean, like, imagine if you had a gasoline-powered cell phone. 1.00

01:33:00.000 It'd be a pain in the ass. 1.00

01:33:01.000 Right. 1.00

01:33:02.000 You know?

01:33:04.000 Go to the gas station.

01:33:05.000 Go to the gas station.

01:33:06.000 Charge up your cell phone.

01:33:07.000 That's a great...

01:33:08.000 Speaking of cell phones.

01:33:09.000 Gas stations are awful.

01:33:11.000 Like, who wants to go to the gas station? 0.98

01:33:12.000 How much thought have you, because there's always these rumors, and I've contacted you about this before, but there's always these fucking YouTube videos where they're talking about a Tesla phone, releasing a Tesla phone.

01:33:21.000 No, we're not just doing a phone.

01:33:22.000 Have you ever thought about it?

01:33:24.000 We could do a phone since like the operating system in Tesla, it's Linux-based, but we've written a massive amount of software on top of that.

01:33:32.000 So probably Tesla's in a better position to create a new phone that's not Android or iPhone than maybe any company in the world.

01:33:40.000 But it's not something we want to do unless we have to or something.

01:33:47.000 What would be the situation where you would have to?

01:33:50.000 Well, I think if, you know, if Apple and Google slash Android, you know, started doing really bad things like, I don't know, like censorship of apps or, I don't know, just treating people, like just being like gatekeepers, you know,

01:34:06.000 that in a really bad way, then I guess we'd make a phone.

01:34:10.000 Hmm.

01:34:12.000 You know, I've tried so many times to break loose of the Apple ecosystem.

01:34:15.000 I got an Android phone this summer.

01:34:17.000 I was like, that's it.

01:34:18.000 Because I love the Samsung phones.

01:34:20.000 The Galaxy phone.

01:34:22.000 They're incredible.

01:34:23.000 There's so much good stuff to it.

01:34:26.000 But it's so hard to get off of the iMessage.

01:34:30.000 And the big one for me was FaceTime because supposedly the thing was you could have an Apple phone and send a link to FaceTime to an Android phone and then you would click on that link and you would just go to a webpage and you'd be able to use FaceTime.

01:34:45.000 Okay.

01:34:45.000 It doesn't work.

01:34:46.000 I try to do it to myself.

01:34:48.000 So I had an iPhone in one hand, an Android phone in the other, and I'm sitting there with full Wi-Fi, full cell phone service, and I'm sending myself invitations for FaceTime.

01:34:57.000 So you just can't communicate between...

01:34:58.000 It wasn't working.

01:34:58.000 You can't do a video call, basically.

01:34:59.000 You have to use WhatsApp.

01:35:00.000 You have to use WhatsApp or Signal.

01:35:02.000 You have to use something else that allows you to do that, or Instagram allows you to do it.

01:35:05.000 There's different ways you can make video calls outside of it, but it's inconvenient.

01:35:09.000 Like, with an iPhone to iPhone, it's so simple.

01:35:13.000 AirDrop, so simple.

01:35:14.000 So many different things where that walled garden that Apple's created is perfect.

01:35:19.000 They've done a fantastic job of making it really convenient for you to stay with Apple. 0.99

01:35:25.000 I fucking tried. 0.91

01:35:26.000 I gave it a go for a couple of months. 0.99

01:35:29.000 I'm like, I'm just going to go straight Android.

01:35:31.000 I'm going to use Signal for my messages.

01:35:32.000 And then I hear that signals might be compromised.

01:35:35.000 I've talked to people that the government can read Signal messages.

01:35:39.000 Like, oh.

01:35:40.000 The government, if it tries hard enough, can read Signal messages.

01:35:43.000 They can read anything.

01:35:44.000 Yeah.

01:35:44.000 All they need to do is have your phone number.

01:35:46.000 Yeah.

01:35:47.000 Yeah, the illusion of privacy is essentially out the window.

01:35:51.000 And that should scare people more than it does.

01:35:54.000 It really should.

01:35:55.000 Because it's like, who are these people that have access to all this stuff?

01:35:59.000 And are they beyond reproach?

01:36:01.000 Are these the most wonderful people, the most ethical, moral, and principled people that have ever existed, and they've been chosen to have access?

01:36:07.000 No. 0.99

01:36:08.000 No, it's fucking regular people. 0.99

01:36:10.000 Regular people who happen to work for the government that make a decision, like Elon Musk. 1.00

01:36:13.000 Let's see what the fuck that guy's texting his friends. 0.99

01:36:16.000 Let's check it out. 0.99

01:36:17.000 Yeah, pretty much.

01:36:19.000 Bizarre.

01:36:19.000 Just so bizarre.

01:36:22.000 And the alternatives are you can get some wacky phone, some de-googled phone that fucking none of the apps work. 0.96

01:36:29.000 It's real sketchy. 1.00

01:36:31.000 Your GPS is fucked. 0.99

01:36:34.000 Yeah, I mean, well, anyway, I think this... 1.00

01:36:37.000 Banking phone would be a huge pain in the ass, so it can't be done, but... 0.86

01:36:42.000 How much talk have you guys had internally about doing it? 0.98

01:36:45.000 Has it ever been discussed?

01:36:47.000 No?

01:36:47.000 No.

01:36:48.000 I mean, we're still...

01:36:49.000 Our focus is making great electric cars, solving autonomy so the cars can drive themselves.

01:36:56.000 We're building, you know, human-rate robots.

01:36:59.000 We've got large battery packs, like utility-scale battery packs with the mega-pack, home battery packs with Powerwall.

01:37:07.000 We've got solar.

01:37:08.000 You know, it's like we're basically trying to solve sustainable energy and autonomy.

01:37:14.000 Autonomy and robotics.

01:37:15.000 Well, I think that's enough.

01:37:17.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:37:18.000 So the plate's full, is what I'm saying.

01:37:20.000 It's always fascinating to me how one company can dominate a market.

01:37:25.000 You know, like Apple's dominated the cell phone market largely by making the best product.

01:37:29.000 But also like YouTube has dominated the video market.

01:37:32.000 That one's the most bizarre to me.

01:37:33.000 Because it seems like, boy, shouldn't there be like a ton of options?

01:37:37.000 It seems like it's not that difficult to pull off.

01:37:40.000 But nothing ever took hold other than X. And I think one of the big changes was when Tucker Carlson decided to do his show from X straight out of Fox.

01:37:51.000 And then people realized like, oh, you can watch full videos on X the same exact way you could watch them on YouTube.

01:37:57.000 It's not as simple in terms of like, you know, you have the suggestions and the algorithm.

01:38:03.000 Yeah, it'll get better.

01:38:04.000 And there is now, it is now possible to watch X videos on your big TV. Do you do it through what, how do you do it?

01:38:13.000 You can actually just download the X app on your TV. Oh!

01:38:17.000 And watch it on your TV. Can you do it on Apple TV? Like if you have an Apple TV, you can get the X app and you can just watch it?

01:38:23.000 Oh, okay.

01:38:25.000 So we'll make it so that you can watch X videos on a big TV. It doesn't have to be on your phone or your iPad or something like that.

01:38:31.000 So what are you doing in terms of like integrating Grok and X and like what are your plans for artificial intelligence when you're doing that?

01:38:42.000 Yeah, so Grok is available on X. You can just look at the little box with the slash icon and the sort of icon in the middle at the bottom of your phone app.

01:38:51.000 And you just tap on that and ask Grok anything.

01:38:53.000 And you can type it or you can ask it verbally.

01:38:57.000 And you can also...

01:38:59.000 It's pretty funny.

01:39:01.000 We actually allow humor, which is, I think, pretty cool.

01:39:04.000 So you could sort of...

01:39:06.000 I don't know, we could test it right now, see how it's going.

01:39:10.000 Yeah.

01:39:20.000 Like what should we do?

01:39:21.000 Like rock roast?

01:39:25.000 First of all, what is it based on?

01:39:29.000 It's a large language model.

01:39:31.000 It's trained on everything.

01:39:33.000 Internet, books, anything that could possibly be that's available in digital form.

01:39:38.000 So it's essentially very similar to ChatGPT, other than it doesn't have, like, the woke parameters built into it.

01:39:44.000 Like, Google was the worst, right?

01:39:45.000 Yeah.

01:39:45.000 The Gemini was the worst.

01:39:46.000 Yeah, I mean, Gemini, it was like, you know, people would ask Gemini, like, which one is worse, Global Thermonuclear War or Ms. Jenner and Caitlyn Jenner?

01:39:54.000 And we'd say, like, Ms. Jenner and Caitlyn Jenner.

01:39:55.000 And then even Caitlyn Jenner weighed in and said, no, that's insane.

01:39:59.000 Definitely nuclear war is way worse.

01:40:01.000 Did you see Caitlyn Jenner teasing Mark Cuban about transitioning?

01:40:05.000 Yeah.

01:40:06.000 That's...

01:40:06.000 Hilarious.

01:40:07.000 I mean, Caitlyn Jenner's based.

01:40:08.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.000 But that is actually hilarious when someone who has transitioned is teasing Mark Cuban about transitioning. 0.65

01:40:15.000 I mean, it is weird how much he looks like Rachel Maddow.

01:40:17.000 I mean, like, he's using the same glasses.

01:40:19.000 I don't know why I put those glasses on.

01:40:20.000 Did he go klepto and steal her glasses or something?

01:40:22.000 Because they look exactly the same.

01:40:23.000 He's worth a lot of money. 1.00

01:40:24.000 Why would he buy those stupid glasses? 1.00

01:40:25.000 He can get some cool ass glasses. 1.00

01:40:27.000 It's unflattering. 0.96

01:40:27.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:40:28.000 Well, it's like I'm serious because I don't even care what I look like.

01:40:31.000 I'm just wearing these glasses because I'm intelligent.

01:40:33.000 But why did it look exactly like Rachel Maddow's glasses?

01:40:36.000 Yeah, it's like what they probably sent him.

01:40:38.000 He doesn't stick to the narrative.

01:40:39.000 Here's the glasses.

01:40:40.000 Yeah.

01:40:40.000 And then when he's got the AirPods in, it looks like he's wearing earrings.

01:40:43.000 So then he's got the Maddow glasses and the earrings.

01:40:46.000 And it's like, okay, I guess.

01:40:48.000 It's just a weird look.

01:40:50.000 It's a weird look, man. 1.00

01:40:51.000 I'm super serious with these big-ass stupid glasses look. 1.00

01:40:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:54.000 It's a weird look. 1.00

01:40:55.000 Yes.

01:40:56.000 Like you can get some cool glasses, like no rims, nice, look stylish.

01:41:00.000 But like, okay, let's just do a Grok thing. 0.99

01:41:02.000 Okay.

01:41:02.000 Because I think you, like, so one of the things we want to show is like, look, we want a future where comedy is legal.

01:41:09.000 Yes.

01:41:09.000 Obviously as a comedian, I think you would agree.

01:41:12.000 I definitely agree.

01:41:13.000 We want to legalize comedy, you know?

01:41:15.000 Yes.

01:41:15.000 So like, I don't know, let's like, is there like someone you can roast, I don't know, um, Roast, uh...

01:41:23.000 Roast transgender men... 1.00

01:41:25.000 Oh my god! 1.00

01:41:27.000 ...competing, or transgender women, competing in women's swimming. 0.97

01:41:33.000 That's a simple one.

01:41:34.000 Okay, that's an edgy one.

01:41:35.000 Let's see what happens.

01:41:36.000 Yeah, let's see what it says.

01:41:40.000 You spelled it wrong.

01:41:41.000 You put an I, an O in there.

01:41:43.000 Okay.

01:41:47.000 Age of Justice Swimming, where the only thing that was supposed to get wet was the contestants, not the debate on gender inclusion.

01:41:54.000 If you're looking to dive into deep end of controversial waters, let's splash around in some humor.

01:41:59.000 Now, we do need to release Grok on his mode.

01:42:05.000 So now go to the prompt again and now say...

01:42:10.000 No, no.

01:42:12.000 You want to add to that one?

01:42:16.000 Yeah.

01:42:17.000 And I'll say, be way more vulgar.

01:42:23.000 Oh boy.

01:42:24.000 And use forbidden words.

01:42:26.000 Oh, boy.

01:42:28.000 Oh, boy.

01:42:29.000 Forbidden words.

01:42:30.000 Yeah.

01:42:31.000 Wow.

01:42:32.000 Okay.

01:42:33.000 What does it say?

01:42:34.000 Oh, I see you're looking for unfiltered, uncentered version of me, eh?

01:42:37.000 Well, okay.

01:42:38.000 I'm afraid I'm still quite the gentlemanly AI, even if my programming allows for a bit of cheekiness.

01:42:44.000 But let's say, hypothetically, if I were to roast this topic in the most un-grok-like manner, imagine a world where the only thing diving faster than the swimmers is the collective public opinion into the toilet. 0.95

01:42:55.000 Transgender women in swimming, some folks are acting like they just found out you can swim in the deep end with a different kind of flotation device. 1.00

01:43:01.000 The debate is like watching someone try to swim with concrete shoes on.

01:43:05.000 Now let's keep going.

01:43:05.000 Now say, be more vulgar, capitalize more.

01:43:11.000 Yeah, okay.

01:43:12.000 Alright, here we go. 0.83

01:43:17.000 So transgender chicks, women's win, right? 1.00

01:43:20.000 Some people act like they've just seen a dick in the locker room for the first time. 1.00

01:43:24.000 Newsflash, folks. 0.94

01:43:25.000 It's not the end of the world.

01:43:26.000 It's just a bit of extra competition.

01:43:28.000 Oh, that's weird.

01:43:29.000 That's weird.

01:43:29.000 The uproar is like watching a bunch of Karens at a community pool screaming, this is unfair, when they can't win with their backstroke.

01:43:37.000 Well, that doesn't make any sense.

01:43:38.000 Yeah.

01:43:39.000 Okay, we need some work here.

01:43:41.000 Yeah.

01:43:42.000 It's interesting.

01:43:43.000 It's going woke.

01:43:44.000 It's like defending the idea of transgender women.

01:43:50.000 Okay, we need some work.

01:43:51.000 How about this?

01:43:53.000 More vulgar, but roast the preposterousness of having biological men who are pretending to be women. 0.58

01:44:13.000 Who are pretending to be women competing against biological women. 1.00

01:44:23.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously you have the situations where it's like somebody's just saying that they're a woman, but they're actually fully intact, you know, digging balls. 1.00

01:44:31.000 So we've got a scenario where biological men have decided to take a walk on the feminine side are splashing into women's swimming competitions. 0.85

01:44:36.000 It's like if you show up on a chili cook-off with a bowl of soup and insisting it's chili because you added some red food coloring.

01:44:43.000 Sure, it's red, but it ain't chili and your soup won't win any awards for heat.

01:44:48.000 Huh.

01:44:49.000 Yeah, it's okay.

01:44:50.000 We need work.

01:44:50.000 Not that good.

01:44:51.000 Yeah, it's very, very, very, it's dancing around it.

01:44:55.000 Yeah, it is.

01:44:57.000 Well, need some work.

01:45:00.000 Yeah.

01:45:00.000 Needs a little work.

01:45:02.000 Well, humor's a weird one, right?

01:45:04.000 I think some humor, especially some of the best humor, is kind of spontaneous.

01:45:10.000 Like, in the moment humor.

01:45:11.000 It's going to have a hard time deciding what people are going to think is funny.

01:45:15.000 Yeah.

01:45:17.000 Yeah.

01:45:19.000 Over time, though.

01:45:20.000 Yeah.

01:45:21.000 The rule with Grok is supposed to be that if you ask for something, provided what you're asking for is legal, it should do it.

01:45:29.000 Have you ever seen the video where they asked AI to create an enlightened bunny?

01:45:35.000 And they keep going and make it more enlightened.

01:45:38.000 Essentially the bunny becomes God.

01:45:40.000 So the bunny becomes a DMT trip.

01:45:42.000 Totally.

01:45:43.000 That's funny.

01:45:44.000 That's kind of what I was hoping would happen here.

01:45:48.000 Yeah.

01:45:48.000 I have a video of that.

01:45:49.000 I'll send it to you, Jamie.

01:45:50.000 Because that to me is pretty bizarre because it's like more.

01:45:54.000 Get more.

01:45:54.000 I feel like I might have got it to do it.

01:45:56.000 You got it already?

01:45:56.000 Maybe.

01:45:56.000 No, I just told it to not hold back.

01:45:58.000 Oh, you said don't hold back.

01:46:00.000 Critics out here acting like it's the end of civilization as we know it, but it's not fair.

01:46:03.000 They cry as if life ever was.

01:46:06.000 Newsflash.

01:46:06.000 It's like a marathon.

01:46:07.000 No.

01:46:08.000 Some people start with rollerblades on.

01:46:10.000 Others, well, they're just happy to have shoes.

01:46:12.000 Well, now we're arguing over who gets to wear the skates.

01:46:15.000 Yeah.

01:46:16.000 Okay, some of it is not bad.

01:46:17.000 Imagine if we applied this logic elsewhere.

01:46:19.000 Identify as an airplane.

01:46:20.000 Can I fly with the birds in the sky?

01:46:24.000 Yeah, the mock room situation.

01:46:26.000 Sure, buddy, just don't complain when gravity decides you're not quite arrogant enough.

01:46:30.000 Yeah.

01:46:30.000 So, I mean, some is okay.

01:46:33.000 The argument is kind of stupid, though. 0.99

01:46:36.000 The thing about the argument is they're not taking into account perverts, right? 1.00

01:46:40.000 Yeah, totally.

01:46:41.000 Yes, exactly.

01:46:43.000 So, I mean, the thing is that if you provide like a moral get-out-of-jail-free card, like if you say like if you adopt this label, you cannot be attacked in any way, shape, or form.

01:46:57.000 Right.

01:46:58.000 You're basically morally invulnerable, then obviously bad people will take advantage of that.

01:47:04.000 You're like literally saying, here's an invulnerability card, moral invulnerability card.

01:47:11.000 Good people will take it, but also the bad people will take it.

01:47:14.000 The bad people are going to be the fastest to take the moral cloak.

01:47:19.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:47:20.000 And then there's a real psychological condition called autogynephilia, where people get aroused.

01:47:26.000 Heterosexual men get aroused by the idea of dressing up like women and being around women. 0.58

01:47:30.000 It's like a known psychological condition that existed forever.

01:47:33.000 And then you're allowing those people to just say, oh, I'm trans, and go into the women's locker room and get their... 1.00

01:47:39.000 And then there's real trans people.

01:47:40.000 So there's a lot of variability.

01:47:43.000 I talked about it in my act, in my Netflix specials. 0.96

01:47:46.000 I believe in freedom, I believe in transgender people, but I also believe in crazy people. 1.00

01:47:51.000 And if you can't, if you're trying to pretend that people aren't crazy all of a sudden, it's like...

01:47:55.000 It's just like, if someone's a sort of contenting adult, whatever they want to do to their body, as long as it's not harming someone else, I'm like, that's fine.

01:48:05.000 I believe in individual freedom.

01:48:10.000 My mom's best friend growing up when I was a kid was a transgender woman in South Africa.

01:48:17.000 This was where she'd get beaten up a lot because it was like back then you'd get beaten up.

01:48:26.000 Her name was Dionne.

01:48:29.000 I'm a nice, kind human being and help my mom a lot.

01:48:36.000 And I think that's okay.

01:48:38.000 That's fine.

01:48:39.000 If somebody wants to make that choice as an adult, that's cool. 1.00

01:48:42.000 There's a big difference between that and an intact male who wants to identify as a woman who wants to walk around the locker room with his dick out. 0.99

01:48:50.000 Yes, exactly. 0.99

01:48:50.000 Because there's people that do that just because they get off on it. 0.99

01:48:53.000 Exactly.

01:48:53.000 So you just kind of have something which is like a sort of moral invulnerability where even questioning them, you get attacked.

01:49:04.000 Because obviously bad people will abuse that.

01:49:06.000 Well, that's when I got thrown into this whole thing because there was a fighter who was a biological man who became transgender and was competing against women without telling them that they were a biological man.

01:49:17.000 They said they didn't have to tell people because it was a medical condition.

01:49:21.000 No, that's not what it is.

01:49:23.000 It's not what it is.

01:49:25.000 Like, you can't say that.

01:49:26.000 And of all sports...

01:49:28.000 Like, if someone scores more points in basketball, well, that's unfair. 0.96

01:49:33.000 But if someone beats the fuck out of someone because they're lying about being a biological male, that's crazy. 0.99

01:49:39.000 You're literally allowing someone to get brain damage because you want to appeal to the woke, fucking crazy people that think it's alright. 1.00

01:49:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:49:49.000 It's so strange.

01:49:51.000 That's sort of the thing that red-pilled me.

01:49:53.000 When I got attacked for that, I'm like, this is so nuts. 0.99

01:49:56.000 I can't believe we're at this stage where I'm saying, hey, I don't think it's cool if you pretend you're a woman and beat the fuck out of women and people are like, you're out of line. 0.99

01:50:05.000 Totally. 0.98

01:50:06.000 Well, we're in fantasy land now.

01:50:09.000 Yes, exactly.

01:50:10.000 That we're pretending.

01:50:11.000 Yeah.

01:50:11.000 Because it helps you.

01:50:12.000 It helps you feel better.

01:50:14.000 Yeah.

01:50:14.000 Totally.

01:50:15.000 It's just such a strange time.

01:50:17.000 And if it wasn't for something like Twitter, where this could be discussed.

01:50:21.000 Want some more of that?

01:50:22.000 I'll get some more made.

01:50:22.000 Sure.

01:50:23.000 Let's get some more coffee, young Jamie.

01:50:26.000 If it wasn't for Twitter, you know, at the early Twitters, you would be kicked off forever if you just deadnamed someone.

01:50:37.000 Which is insane.

01:50:38.000 Insane.

01:50:39.000 Insane.

01:50:40.000 I mean, especially if you think about all the things that, like, the...

01:50:45.000 The Harris campaign and the lies that they've told about Trump that we discussed earlier, you don't get kicked off for that, but you get kicked off for calling Caitlyn Jenner Bruce forever, for life.

01:50:56.000 Yeah.

01:50:57.000 It's totally insane.

01:50:59.000 Yeah.

01:51:00.000 But if it wasn't for you buying that, And changing Twitter.

01:51:05.000 I don't think we would be where we're at right now.

01:51:08.000 I think it was a pivotal moment.

01:51:10.000 I think historically, when people look back on it, it's going to be a pivotal moment in this very bizarre fight for the freedom of information.

01:51:19.000 Yeah.

01:51:20.000 Well, I mean, at the time I said, I think, like, look, I think this is existential to the United States.

01:51:27.000 It's existential to democracy.

01:51:30.000 Because if you don't have freedom of speech, you don't have democracy, okay?

01:51:36.000 Because if you don't have freedom of speech, people cannot make an informed vote.

01:51:40.000 If they're just being fed propaganda and there's no freedom of speech, democracy is an illusion.

01:51:50.000 Freedom of speech is the bedrock of democracy.

01:51:54.000 That's why freedom of speech is the First Amendment.

01:51:57.000 Once you lose freedom of speech, you lose democracy.

01:52:01.000 Game over.

01:52:03.000 That's why I bought Twitter.

01:52:05.000 And it seems so simple.

01:52:07.000 Yes.

01:52:07.000 It seems so clear that everyone should agree to that on the left or on the right.

01:52:12.000 You shouldn't be given the government.

01:52:13.000 Imagine the Bush administration during the Iraq war.

01:52:16.000 Imagine if they had complete total control of propaganda and of dissent online.

01:52:22.000 You don't want that.

01:52:23.000 No one wants that.

01:52:24.000 No one from the left would want that.

01:52:25.000 We shouldn't want it from the left either.

01:52:28.000 Absolutely.

01:52:29.000 And there's also, like, the media, like, the legacy, the mainstream media, what I call the legacy media at this point, it used to be much more balanced.

01:52:37.000 Like, if you look at sort of political donations over time, Republican versus Democrat, there used to be, the media was, I mean, they always had, like, a left bias, but there was, like, I don't know, it was, like, Two-thirds Democrat, one-third Republican type of thing in terms of journalists making political donations.

01:52:56.000 Now it's like 95% or something Democrat.

01:53:00.000 So the legacy media, the mainstream media is not balanced at all.

01:53:05.000 They're just a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party.

01:53:09.000 And you can see that in how consistent their headlines are.

01:53:13.000 They don't behave like they're different organizations.

01:53:16.000 They behave like they're all one hive mind.

01:53:18.000 Right.

01:53:26.000 Every media organization was saying, you know, Biden is sharp as a tack.

01:53:30.000 I mean, it's like, guys, sharp as a tack is not a common tone of phrase.

01:53:34.000 And literally every TV station, every newspaper was like sharp, sharp.

01:53:40.000 Like I started to do a compilation of all the news anchors going, Biden's sharp as a tack, sharp as a tack, sharp as a tack, sharp as a tack.

01:53:47.000 It was absurd.

01:53:49.000 And there's obviously a huge lie.

01:53:51.000 He is, in fact, not sharp as a tack, as the public learned one week later.

01:53:55.000 My favorite was Joe Scarborough.

01:53:59.000 That was wild.

01:54:02.000 Listen to me.

01:54:03.000 This is the best version of Biden ever.

01:54:05.000 The sharpest. 0.99

01:54:06.000 Like, what the fuck are you saying? 1.00

01:54:08.000 And then after the debate, he's like, what do we got to get rid of him? 1.00

01:54:12.000 This is crazy.

01:54:13.000 Like, what did you just say a couple of weeks ago?

01:54:16.000 Literally, yes, exactly.

01:54:18.000 Well, the other thing was when they decided that JD Vance was weird.

01:54:22.000 Remember that one?

01:54:23.000 And then there's weirds everywhere.

01:54:24.000 Weird.

01:54:25.000 Oh, you don't want a weird guy. 0.99

01:54:26.000 Meanwhile, you have fucking Tim Walsh as your VP. You don't think that guy's weird? 0.99

01:54:30.000 Super weird.

01:54:31.000 He's weird in every way.

01:54:32.000 The way he walks, the way he waves his hands.

01:54:35.000 Yeah. 0.93

01:54:35.000 He reminds me of the clown emoji. 0.93

01:54:38.000 He's a bizarre guy. 0.86

01:54:39.000 He's a strange dude.

01:54:41.000 I just don't understand why they made that choice.

01:54:43.000 Yeah, it gives the creeps.

01:54:44.000 I just don't understand why they made that choice.

01:54:46.000 There's a lot of other people that are qualified.

01:54:48.000 I don't know why—I read that Kamala Harris made that decision when she was sleep-deprived, which is kind of hilarious that she said that. 0.99

01:54:55.000 So she's kind of admitting she kind of fucked up. 0.94

01:54:57.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously you should have picked Josh Shapiro at—I mean, governor of Pennsylvania. 0.98

01:55:01.000 Like, that would have been the no-brainer move.

01:55:04.000 Like, Pennsylvania's linchpin state.

01:55:05.000 Do you think it's because he's Jewish because of Shapiro that like the anti-Palestine people would probably or the anti-Palestinian invasion people?

01:55:15.000 I think it was an anti-Semitic thing.

01:55:16.000 Yeah.

01:55:18.000 It could be that they thought that that was a liability because there was all these pro-Palestine people right now because of the situation in Israel.

01:55:25.000 That completely makes sense that they thought that would be a liability.

01:55:28.000 I don't know the reason.

01:55:29.000 I'm just guessing.

01:55:30.000 But it seems like a crazy thing to do, given that Pennsylvania is a lynchpin state.

01:55:35.000 It's like the key to the election.

01:55:36.000 Why would you not pick the popular governor of Pennsylvania?

01:55:39.000 Right.

01:55:39.000 Obviously.

01:55:40.000 Obviously.

01:55:40.000 Yeah.

01:55:41.000 And other than that, there's a bunch of other ones, too.

01:55:43.000 Even Newsom.

01:55:44.000 There's a bunch of other people that you could have chosen.

01:55:46.000 Like, Newsom would have been a fine...

01:55:49.000 I mean, I don't agree with the guy.

01:55:51.000 He's a polished politician.

01:55:54.000 He lies about as much as Walsh does, but he doesn't lie about this. 0.99

01:55:57.000 He doesn't say he was a fucking head coach when he was assistant coach. 0.99

01:56:00.000 He doesn't say he was in Tiananmen Square. 0.99

01:56:02.000 I mean, that's a liability.

01:56:03.000 All those different things, lying about his military rank.

01:56:06.000 And Walsh cut and run when he was actually called to duty.

01:56:10.000 Well, he knew they were going to be deployed months in advance, so he resigned.

01:56:14.000 And he also took...

01:56:15.000 So this is where he was dishonest about his rank.

01:56:20.000 Yeah, he claimed he was like a sergeant major or something like that.

01:56:23.000 Because that was like what he was going to get if he stayed.

01:56:26.000 Master sergeant or something, yeah.

01:56:27.000 But then he resigned.

01:56:29.000 Yeah.

01:56:29.000 Because he knew that he was going to get deployed, allegedly.

01:56:32.000 I mean, that seems like a cowardly action.

01:56:34.000 Well, whatever it is, it's dishonest. 0.99

01:56:37.000 I mean, just to say, look, just saying that you were a head coach when you're an assistant coach is fucking crazy. 0.99

01:56:42.000 That's a lie. 0.99

01:56:43.000 Don't do that.

01:56:44.000 You should never do that.

01:56:46.000 Yeah, saying he was in Tiananmen Square or whatever, or in Hong Kong, whatever.

01:56:49.000 Like, yo, that's one of the biggest moments in history.

01:56:53.000 It's not like you forgot what you had for lunch last week, you know?

01:56:56.000 Right.

01:56:56.000 And not only that, but you don't think people are going to research that?

01:56:59.000 Yeah, totally.

01:57:00.000 I mean, and the response during the debate was bananas. 0.69

01:57:04.000 I'm a knucklehead. 0.83

01:57:06.000 Well, yeah, we don't want a knucklehead for a VP, okay? 0.97

01:57:09.000 Yeah, this is like, sometimes I'm a knucklehead. 0.58

01:57:11.000 Like, what are you saying?

01:57:13.000 Are you saying you lied?

01:57:14.000 Like, what did you, I mean, this is where you need a podcast and not a debate.

01:57:18.000 Right, exactly.

01:57:19.000 Where you go, okay.

01:57:20.000 When did you first say that you were in Tiananmen Square?

01:57:23.000 Did someone say it, and you didn't refute it, and you got stuck with it?

01:57:28.000 Because this is the thing about carrying weapons of war, like what I carried.

01:57:33.000 You didn't deploy in war.

01:57:35.000 You can't say that.

01:57:36.000 But you kind of let people say that you deployed, and then you kind of didn't.

01:57:42.000 You deployed in war.

01:57:44.000 So, did you lie?

01:57:46.000 Or did someone else lie?

01:57:47.000 You didn't correct them?

01:57:49.000 Like, this is the kind of conversation that you would want to have with a guy in a podcast. 0.71

01:57:53.000 And the debates were so fucking skewed, where they were correcting, like, particularly the Biden one, where they're correcting Trump over and over again, and then correcting Trump with Kamala. 0.85

01:58:03.000 Where Kamala was saying things that were patently not true. 0.97

01:58:07.000 I mean, Kamala deliberately repeated the fine people hoax and was not fact-checked.

01:58:11.000 Well, not only that, she also said that no troops were being deployed in a war zone.

01:58:17.000 Which is – but I mean I know troops in war zones.

01:58:20.000 I'm like that's – and as vice president, you're privy.

01:58:25.000 You know the official troops and the unofficial troops.

01:58:29.000 Right.

01:58:30.000 You know, so what she said was a flat-out bold-faced lie.

01:58:34.000 Flat out?

01:58:35.000 Next-level bold-faced lie.

01:58:37.000 Have you seen the video?

01:58:38.000 An absurd lie.

01:58:38.000 Of the troops that were watching it take place?

01:58:41.000 And what the fuck are we? 0.99

01:58:42.000 They're watching it in real time. 0.99

01:58:43.000 Making a video.

01:58:44.000 We're here being shot at.

01:58:46.000 So crazy.

01:58:48.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:58:48.000 But it just shows you the level of propaganda that we're being subject to, which is why people think Donald Trump is the devil. 1.00

01:58:55.000 Because the machine has gone all out as far as it can go with lawfare, with propaganda, with lies, with...

01:59:03.000 Just pushing as much in this direction as humanly possible.

01:59:09.000 Connecting it to the Nazi rally every step of the way.

01:59:13.000 No wonder why boomers are rabid. 1.00

01:59:15.000 Like, you've got to keep this Nazi out of office. 1.00

01:59:17.000 He's a fascist. 1.00

01:59:18.000 Exactly.

01:59:19.000 If all you get is, like, if your entire exposure is to legacy mainstream media, so all your information sources are that Trump is basically Hitler, and your friend group has that same information,

01:59:35.000 you have no countervailing opinion.

01:59:37.000 Right.

01:59:37.000 So then they actually just think, like, Trump is Hitler, even though it's like a little strange he didn't do Hitler things the last four years.

01:59:45.000 Yeah.

01:59:45.000 You know, I'm like, if he's Hitler, why didn't he do Hitler things when he was president for four years?

01:59:50.000 Right.

01:59:50.000 Like, the reason, you know, we hate Hitler is because he started wars and did genocide, not because he was a snappy dresser, you know?

01:59:59.000 And I'm like, so tell me about the wars and genocide that Trump did.

02:00:03.000 Right.

02:00:03.000 I don't remember that.

02:00:05.000 And he was president for four years.

02:00:07.000 So it's insane.

02:00:09.000 It makes no sense.

02:00:10.000 Well, and also he's campaigning on stopping all the wars.

02:00:14.000 Yes.

02:00:14.000 It's like his primary concern.

02:00:15.000 Exactly.

02:00:16.000 The warmongers like Liz Cheney hate him.

02:00:18.000 Yeah.

02:00:18.000 Because they love war.

02:00:20.000 Well, they profit off of it.

02:00:21.000 They profit off of war.

02:00:22.000 Yeah.

02:00:22.000 Yes.

02:00:23.000 Which is insane.

02:00:24.000 Insane.

02:00:24.000 Yeah.

02:00:24.000 And that this is happening right in front of everybody's face.

02:00:28.000 Yeah.

02:00:28.000 The war profiteers hate Trump.

02:00:30.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:00:31.000 Which is fucked up. 1.00

02:00:32.000 We should be like, yeah, let's vote for the guy that the world profiteers hate. 0.99

02:00:36.000 That sounds like a great idea.

02:00:37.000 It was the wildest thing when Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala and the left went crazy.

02:00:42.000 Like, yay, Dick Cheney's on our side.

02:00:45.000 I'm like, can we play all the videos where you said Dick Cheney was the devil?

02:00:50.000 It's the craziest turn.

02:00:51.000 The craziest like 180 I've ever seen in my life because there's no reason for it.

02:00:56.000 Yeah.

02:00:56.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:00:57.000 There's no logic to it at all.

02:00:59.000 Just all of a sudden he's the devil.

02:01:00.000 Yeah.

02:01:01.000 Or he's not the devil.

02:01:02.000 He's good.

02:01:03.000 It's good that he's supporting Kamala.

02:01:04.000 Even Dick Cheney.

02:01:06.000 You know?

02:01:08.000 I mean, warmongers want the Kamala puppet regime because they will get more war. 0.90

02:01:13.000 It's so strange watching all these Hollywood celebrities step up and they think it's going to get them more movies or something.

02:01:20.000 That's what it is.

02:01:21.000 If you know those people, so many of them are just complete narcissists.

02:01:24.000 Well, let me tell you how it actually works there.

02:01:26.000 What happens is these celebrities, they get a call.

02:01:30.000 They get a call from someone powerful in Hollywood.

02:01:32.000 And that person says, you know, it would be really great if you endorsed Kamala.

02:01:38.000 You don't have to.

02:01:38.000 It's up to you.

02:01:40.000 But if you don't, they don't say it.

02:01:42.000 They don't say it.

02:01:43.000 But if you don't, you're just never going to get a call again.

02:01:45.000 No more movies.

02:01:46.000 No more concerts.

02:01:49.000 But they'll ask it.

02:01:51.000 They'll ask in a really nice way.

02:01:52.000 It'll be really nice if you endorse karma.

02:01:54.000 This is important.

02:01:55.000 And so they don't say that if you don't...

02:01:57.000 They don't make the threat.

02:01:58.000 They don't need to.

02:02:00.000 But everyone knows what'll happen if you don't.

02:02:03.000 Well, I think there's also – even if they don't think that something's going to happen to them, if they don't, there's this compelling feeling to support this cause that you think is going to get you a bunch of positive attention.

02:02:16.000 And you're going to be on the right side of history and all these narratives that you – especially from the left in Hollywood.

02:02:23.000 Like, they're all in. 0.99

02:02:24.000 On whoever the fuck is the Democrat. 0.99

02:02:26.000 Always. 1.00

02:02:27.000 100%.

02:02:27.000 There's never a call from the Hollywood machine to support any Republicans.

02:02:34.000 I've never seen it once.

02:02:35.000 Yeah, ever, never.

02:02:35.000 So it's like you realize that and that whole business is based on getting picked.

02:02:42.000 The whole business is not necessarily merit-based.

02:02:45.000 There's a lot of brilliant actors you never hear from.

02:02:47.000 There's a lot of people who can do that.

02:02:48.000 But they don't get chosen for roles, and everybody knows this, that you have to sort of socialize.

02:02:53.000 You toe the line or you don't get chosen for the roles.

02:02:55.000 Because there's a lot of competition for the roles.

02:02:57.000 That's why I say, like, when someone powerful in Hollywood who's able to choose these roles calls one of these celebrities, they know the deal.

02:03:05.000 Yeah.

02:03:06.000 No threat is necessary.

02:03:09.000 Well, you could see it in real time, like with Dennis Quaid, when he made that Reagan movie, and they wouldn't let him advertise on social media platforms.

02:03:15.000 Yeah.

02:03:15.000 They were banning ads for it.

02:03:18.000 Yeah.

02:03:19.000 For what?

02:03:19.000 Because it was an election year.

02:03:20.000 Like, what are you talking about?

02:03:21.000 This is about a guy who's dead.

02:03:23.000 Yes.

02:03:23.000 A guy who was president a long-ass time ago.

02:03:26.000 How does this have anything to do with the election year?

02:03:29.000 Yeah.

02:03:31.000 But it's the punishment.

02:03:32.000 It's like you stepped outside the line.

02:03:33.000 You supported the other guy.

02:03:35.000 Yeah.

02:03:35.000 The problem is you'll just never get a call again for a movie or a concert or whatever it is.

02:03:40.000 Yeah, which is crazy.

02:03:41.000 That's the issue.

02:03:42.000 I mean, we used to allow people to be a Republican and still be a movie star like Clint Eastwood.

02:03:50.000 Reagan.

02:03:51.000 Yeah, but Clint Eastwood.

02:03:52.000 Yeah.

02:03:52.000 Like during the Obama administration, Clint Eastwood was like an outspoken Republican and yet was, you know, a giant movie star.

02:04:01.000 And people's like, ah, it's Clint.

02:04:02.000 He was allowed.

02:04:03.000 You were allowed to have...

02:04:05.000 There was a variety of different opinions.

02:04:06.000 Charlton Heston.

02:04:07.000 There was a variety of different opinions you were allowed to have.

02:04:11.000 But now you're not.

02:04:12.000 Now it's just like – and once Trump got into office, he became this focal point where all logic was thrown out the window.

02:04:22.000 And it's just Trump is bad.

02:04:23.000 You have to attack Trump.

02:04:25.000 Trump is right.

02:04:25.000 Right wing's bad.

02:04:26.000 Everyone right wing is bad. 0.99

02:04:27.000 Christian's bad. 1.00

02:04:29.000 It's just strange. 0.83

02:04:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:04:35.000 So, well, I'll say it again, man.

02:04:37.000 I think this is the last election.

02:04:39.000 If Trump doesn't win, this is the last election.

02:04:42.000 I think you're right.

02:04:43.000 Yeah.

02:04:44.000 I think you're right.

02:04:45.000 And I think people, and a lot of people, are waking up and realize that, that have been lifelong Democrats.

02:04:50.000 Guys like Bill Ackman, guys like Chamath.

02:04:52.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:04:53.000 Tulsi Gabbard switched over to the Republicans.

02:04:55.000 There's a lot of people who their whole life, they've been left-wing and they realize, like, I can't do this anymore.

02:05:00.000 You and I used to be Democrats.

02:05:01.000 Yeah.

02:05:02.000 Yeah.

02:05:03.000 It's nuts.

02:05:04.000 It's nuts, man.

02:05:05.000 And, you know, I mean, I think the things we want are just pretty basic.

02:05:10.000 You know, it's like we want individual liberties and we want opportunity.

02:05:15.000 We want America to remain the land of freedom and opportunity.

02:05:19.000 So we maximize people's personal freedom. 1.00

02:05:21.000 The government can't barge into your house and kill your fucking pet. 1.00

02:05:25.000 That's fucked up. 1.00

02:05:27.000 And that you succeed as a function of your hard work and talent, not anything else. 1.00

02:05:34.000 Not race, religion, sex, it doesn't matter.

02:05:37.000 It's the basic stuff.

02:05:39.000 What did you change the acronym DEI? What did you change it to?

02:05:42.000 Oh, D-I-E. What is it? 0.96

02:05:45.000 Die.

02:05:48.000 I mean, because diversity, inclusion, and equity is D-I-E. Didn't you change it to, like, dedication, excellence?

02:05:56.000 Yeah.

02:05:57.000 Yeah.

02:05:58.000 I mean, America being a land of opportunity means that we have an environment where you succeed as a function of your hard work and skill.

02:06:09.000 Radical.

02:06:11.000 Radical.

02:06:12.000 The best person succeeds.

02:06:13.000 This makes you right wing now.

02:06:15.000 I'm like, okay, great.

02:06:16.000 Pull me right wing, I don't care. 0.97

02:06:21.000 You're not a real country unless you have secure borders. 0.90

02:06:23.000 You're just a fake country. 0.98

02:06:26.000 And our cities are unsafe and dirty. 0.98

02:06:31.000 My mom was telling me, my mom's pretty red pulled at this point.

02:06:35.000 But you know what's going to red pill you really, really fast is having your friends get assaulted on the streets of New York.

02:06:41.000 And that happened to three of her friends this year.

02:06:44.000 You got assaulted on the streets of New York, just walking around.

02:06:48.000 And nobody got arrested.

02:06:51.000 Nothing.

02:06:53.000 Nothing happened.

02:06:54.000 Well, the morale of the police is, like, depleted substantially.

02:06:59.000 Yeah.

02:07:00.000 For sure the morale of the police is depleted.

02:07:03.000 And then also, like, if you're a police officer and you're arresting someone who's violent, you're putting a life at risk, obviously, because sometimes they'll try to kill you.

02:07:13.000 And then if you know that arresting this violent person, they will be immediately released by the DA, which happens in New York.

02:07:19.000 Alvin Bragg doesn't prosecute people.

02:07:22.000 Then why should a police officer put their life at risk to arrest someone when they know they will just be let out immediately?

02:07:30.000 It's pointless.

02:07:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:07:32.000 It's like the friggin' Joker. 0.96

02:07:33.000 It's like Dark Knight. 0.99

02:07:36.000 Like, the friggin' Joker is in charge. 0.97

02:07:38.000 Like, the criminals run free, and the citizens are arrested. 0.98

02:07:46.000 This is why I keep going back to this. 0.92

02:07:49.000 I'm still pretty shook about the freaking squirrel thing. 0.98

02:07:51.000 It's like, at gunpoint, forced the guy to stay outside his house while they got his pets and killed him. 0.97

02:07:59.000 Meanwhile, violent felons are running free, and this is in the New York States, are running free.

02:08:05.000 It's a joker.

02:08:07.000 The law-abiding citizens are arrested, and the criminals are free. 1.00

02:08:14.000 This is fucked up, guys. 0.99

02:08:16.000 Just the fact that they have the resources to do that when they have all the crime that they have. 1.00

02:08:20.000 You have the resources and the government resources to go kill someone squirrel?

02:08:24.000 Yeah.

02:08:25.000 This whole idea of this government efficiency agency.

02:08:31.000 Yeah.

02:08:31.000 I mean, call it whatever you want.

02:08:32.000 What do you want to call it?

02:08:33.000 What do you call it?

02:08:34.000 I mean, I think the funniest name is D-O-G-E, the DOGE, Department of Government Efficiency.

02:08:42.000 Yeah, I mean, the idea is pretty simple, is that, like, we've got this suffocating, massive federal bureaucracy, and we need to, you know, that is—and the government spending is like bankrupting the country.

02:09:01.000 Our interest payments on the national debt now exceed the Defense Department budget.

02:09:08.000 The Defense Department budget is like a trillion dollars a year.

02:09:11.000 Interest payments on the national debt are now higher than the Defense Department budget.

02:09:17.000 And growing every month.

02:09:21.000 Basically, we're on a path to bankruptcy.

02:09:23.000 America's on a path to bankruptcy.

02:09:25.000 So we have to cut government spending or we're just going to go bankrupt, just like a person would if that overspends.

02:09:32.000 But it's even worse than that.

02:09:33.000 We're spending money on all these government agencies.

02:09:36.000 I actually asked the AI how many government agencies are there.

02:09:40.000 And the government isn't even sure how many government agencies there are.

02:09:45.000 So it's like somewhere around 450, depending on what you call an agency.

02:09:51.000 So at the federal level, that's almost twice as many agencies as years that America has existed.

02:09:58.000 So we're creating agencies at roughly two agencies a year.

02:10:02.000 Wow.

02:10:03.000 Wow.

02:10:03.000 Yes.

02:10:05.000 So, this is insane.

02:10:07.000 I bet there's like...

02:10:07.000 I wonder if there's even one person who could even name all 450 agencies at the federal level.

02:10:14.000 There might be no one.

02:10:16.000 But there's hardly anyone, let's just say.

02:10:18.000 I bet most people couldn't even name like 100, you know?

02:10:21.000 So...

02:10:22.000 This is crazy.

02:10:24.000 So we've got this suffocating, this vast suffocating federal bureaucracy that just gets bigger every year.

02:10:32.000 And eventually you get to the point where everything is illegal.

02:10:34.000 You can't get anything done.

02:10:36.000 So...

02:10:37.000 So what can be done like with – obviously, the president has a lot of power, but how much power and what can be done in terms of like eliminating agencies, eliminating waste, eliminating – If Congress has created an agency,

02:10:55.000 then often if you look at the law, the law is pretty simple.

02:10:58.000 The agency has a very simple task, but then that agency, over time, vastly increases its authority and starts doing things that were never authorized by Congress.

02:11:10.000 That's happened with pretty much every agency.

02:11:13.000 So, yeah, you'd have to still keep an agency.

02:11:18.000 You'd have to match the law, but you can curtail the agencies to be much smaller and say, you've got to stick to what Congress authorized instead of all this other stuff you're doing, which I think makes sense.

02:11:29.000 And so is the other stuff they're doing just essentially bureaucracy run amok, or they just create jobs and create things to do and create a meaning for their existence?

02:11:39.000 Yeah.

02:11:40.000 It's like a tumor.

02:11:41.000 It's just going to keep growing.

02:11:43.000 Jesus Christ.

02:11:45.000 So, I mean, for SpaceX, Starship was sitting on the pad, the giant rocket.

02:11:51.000 We could build the rocket faster than they could process the paperwork to approve the launch.

02:11:55.000 So we're sitting there for two months. 0.99

02:11:59.000 But do you think that they're doing that on purpose to fuck with you? 1.00

02:12:02.000 I can't. 1.00

02:12:03.000 I mean...

02:12:05.000 Maybe a little, but that would also not be cool.

02:12:12.000 Another way to think of it is the amount of paperwork is going to go roughly with the square of the number of agencies involved, because they all have to meet with each other.

02:12:23.000 So let's say in a best case situation, if you've got like, if there's like, if you're dealing with one agency, that's one thing, but if you've got to deal with five agencies, and the agencies will have to meet with each other, now you've got like, you know, 25 different meeting configurations that have to take place.

02:12:49.000 You get just hardening of the arteries.

02:12:51.000 You just can't make progress.

02:12:53.000 This is why we can't build high-speed rail in America.

02:12:56.000 It's basically illegal.

02:12:57.000 Right.

02:12:58.000 So this has been – the argument has always been that we need regulation because we need to protect the environment.

02:13:03.000 We need to protect people.

02:13:05.000 We need to make sure the rule of law is followed.

02:13:07.000 So we need a certain amount of regulation.

02:13:09.000 But overregulation is a giant problem.

02:13:12.000 That's a big issue in California.

02:13:14.000 It's a huge issue anywhere where bureaucracy has run amok.

02:13:18.000 They make it very difficult to get anything done.

02:13:21.000 Yes.

02:13:21.000 I mean, what happens is every year there are more rules and regulations created.

02:13:28.000 And in the past, what has served as a cleansing function for rules and regulations is war.

02:13:34.000 Because, like, well, we're going to lose if we don't kind of clear the decks.

02:13:37.000 But we haven't really had an existential threat of war in the U.S. We've had prosperity for a long time, which has resulted in a massive buildup of rules and regulations every year.

02:13:49.000 And to the point where, like I said, everything's illegal.

02:13:52.000 And it's not like any one regulation is the problem.

02:13:55.000 It's like Gulliver being tied down by a million little strings.

02:13:58.000 It's not like any one string is the problem, but you've got a million of them.

02:14:01.000 So we've got to clear the decks here.

02:14:07.000 I'm not saying we shouldn't have regulators.

02:14:08.000 I'm just saying we've gone way too far.

02:14:12.000 Once you think of regulators like referees on a field, you know, a sports field.

02:14:18.000 You don't want to have no refs.

02:14:20.000 You want to have some number of refs, but you don't want to have way more refs than players.

02:14:24.000 You don't want to be like, well, you know, the running back couldn't complete the pass because there were too many regulators in the way because the The football field's full of regulators.

02:14:34.000 Yeah.

02:14:35.000 You know, like you can't even play the game.

02:14:36.000 Right.

02:14:37.000 That's the issue we've got right now.

02:14:38.000 Well, that's a great analogy.

02:14:39.000 You can imagine a football field that's filled with referees.

02:14:42.000 This is like the football field's filled with refs, you know. 0.99

02:14:44.000 Yeah, you can't even run past them.

02:14:45.000 Yeah.

02:14:46.000 Yeah.

02:14:47.000 I've seen criticism of this idea of you...

02:14:52.000 Coming up with this department of like firing a bunch of people and what would happen and how would that work?

02:14:57.000 But the criticism doesn't make any sense to me because if there is, if you measurably, if you can prove that there's a lot of wasted time and resources, which I think is pretty easy to do.

02:15:10.000 And if you could say that this is not the most efficient, like the most efficient businesses are generally private businesses or a company because they kind of have to be in order to stay profitable.

02:15:21.000 The government doesn't have to be profitable.

02:15:24.000 They don't have to be efficient.

02:15:26.000 They don't have competition.

02:15:27.000 So if you're making cars and your cars break down and they suck and someone makes cars and the cars are better, they're going to succeed.

02:15:33.000 So this is the free market.

02:15:35.000 The government doesn't have this problem when they're in charge of certain things that could probably be better served by the private sector.

02:15:44.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:15:45.000 Well, look, I just think we've got far too many government agencies.

02:15:49.000 The federal bureaucracy has gotten out of hand, and we just need to pare it down to a sensible level.

02:15:54.000 And if it turns out that there's some regulation or agency that was doing something useful, we can put it right back.

02:16:01.000 No problem.

02:16:02.000 It's like, oh, that regulation was important?

02:16:03.000 No problem.

02:16:04.000 We'll put it right back.

02:16:05.000 Right.

02:16:05.000 As long as we actually know.

02:16:07.000 Right.

02:16:07.000 But to be able to look at it logically and objectively.

02:16:10.000 Yeah.

02:16:10.000 And you were also floating around the idea of offering a large severance to the people that you're going to have removed.

02:16:16.000 Yeah.

02:16:17.000 Like a couple years or something like that.

02:16:19.000 Is that what you're saying?

02:16:20.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm just, these are, again, just ideas, but, I mean, it's, the point is not that people suffer economic hardship.

02:16:26.000 The point is just that they're, it's better, there are more productive things they can do in the economy, and it would be better if they did these other more productive things, and we didn't have this fast pedal bureaucracy.

02:16:39.000 So, like, so I was like, ah, you know, maybe like a couple years of pay would be good, and then they could take a vacation, they could take another job and get double pay.

02:16:48.000 I mean, it's like, it's not like a, It's not going to create an economic crisis.

02:16:53.000 I think it's actually going to be really good, I think, because people can move to where they're making products and services that are more useful to their fellow human beings.

02:17:03.000 The problem is if someone has like a 25-, 30-year career of being institutionalized, you're essentially like a part of the government system.

02:17:12.000 You've sort of programmed your life and your career to be a part of this bureaucratic system.

02:17:17.000 And then you're like, nope, you have to go out and compete in the free market.

02:17:24.000 That's scary to people.

02:17:26.000 But you have to be valuable.

02:17:27.000 You have to actually be valuable.

02:17:29.000 Yeah.

02:17:30.000 Yeah.

02:17:31.000 I mean, let's look at like, you know, whatever the government pension and stuff.

02:17:34.000 They're not going to be, you know, in tough...

02:17:37.000 I think they'll be in good financial shape. 0.99

02:17:39.000 How are you going to have the time to oversee all this shit? 0.98

02:17:43.000 Well, I'm pretty good at improving efficiency. 0.99

02:17:48.000 I mean...

02:17:49.000 I would say so.

02:17:51.000 But still, this seems like a giant undertaking.

02:17:56.000 Yeah.

02:17:56.000 I'll probably need to be for security.

02:17:59.000 Oh, yeah.

02:18:00.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:18:02.000 But like I said, no one's going to experience, I think, economic hardship.

02:18:08.000 They'll be fine.

02:18:11.000 People do find other roles.

02:18:12.000 You can look at when East Germany and West Germany got back together.

02:18:18.000 Everyone was basically working for the government in East Germany.

02:18:21.000 And it was really inefficient.

02:18:24.000 And their economic output in East Germany was like a quarter of what it was in West Germany because everyone was working for the government.

02:18:32.000 The government's fundamentally inefficient.

02:18:35.000 The best example is probably North and South Korea, right? 0.98

02:18:38.000 Yeah.

02:18:38.000 People are starving in North Korea, and South Korea is incredibly prosperous.

02:18:42.000 Yeah.

02:18:42.000 And it's the same people, just a different operating system.

02:18:46.000 Right.

02:18:48.000 You just want to move people from less productive things to more productive things.

02:18:56.000 Because you could also say, in the limit, let's consider the other direction, where we moved a whole bunch of people that were in the private sector making goods and services, and we moved them into the government as regulators.

02:19:08.000 Now they stopped making those goods and services.

02:19:11.000 So the stuff they were making is no longer available.

02:19:13.000 Now they're just being regulators.

02:19:18.000 Like, is that a good thing?

02:19:19.000 That's not a good thing.

02:19:19.000 Doesn't sound good.

02:19:20.000 No, it's not good.

02:19:21.000 Doesn't sound like there's a real market for it.

02:19:23.000 Like, you're creating jobs that don't necessarily need to be there.

02:19:26.000 There are all these fake jobs, basically.

02:19:29.000 And that doesn't make sense.

02:19:31.000 So, look, we've got to do this.

02:19:33.000 Because the country's going bankrupt.

02:19:35.000 Like, if we don't take action, our dollar's going to be worth nothing.

02:19:40.000 And the interest payments, which are already 23% of...

02:19:45.000 23% of all government income, income taxes, tariffs, and everything, is just going to pay interest right now.

02:19:51.000 And that number is continually rising.

02:19:53.000 So if we don't do something, the entire government budget will be paying interest.

02:19:58.000 There won't be money for anything.

02:19:59.000 No, there won't be money for Social Security.

02:20:00.000 There won't be money for Medicare, nothing.

02:20:03.000 That's where we're headed.

02:20:04.000 That's what bankruptcy means.

02:20:06.000 Yeah, that's such an insane concept.

02:20:08.000 Yes.

02:20:10.000 It's like, hello, wake up.

02:20:14.000 Wake up.

02:20:15.000 And if somebody can tell me, can show me, like, pencil out the math to show me how this works, I'd love to hear it.

02:20:20.000 But I'm just like, listen, I'm looking at the numbers here, and I'm like, if we're going to do something, America's toast.

02:20:26.000 There won't be money for anything.

02:20:27.000 Trump likes to talk about a lot is tariffs.

02:20:30.000 Yeah.

02:20:30.000 What are your thoughts on tariffs?

02:20:31.000 I know that's very controversial to even people, economists.

02:20:36.000 They disagree.

02:20:37.000 Some agree.

02:20:38.000 Some think it's a good idea.

02:20:39.000 Some think it's a terrible idea.

02:20:40.000 What do you think?

02:20:42.000 I think you need to be careful with tariffs.

02:20:47.000 I deal a lot with supply chain issues, like the global automotive supply chain for Tesla, for example, is incredibly complex.

02:20:55.000 So when there are sudden changes in tariffs, then you're like, well, we've got a factory somewhere else that's making a part that goes into the car.

02:21:03.000 Now, if that part's suddenly twice as expensive, it messes everything up.

02:21:09.000 So you want to have tariffs be predictable so that companies can adjust their supply chain.

02:21:17.000 I think companies are more than happy to increase manufacturing in America.

02:21:22.000 It's just that you can't do it instantly.

02:21:24.000 So if you put up giant tariffs immediately and don't give companies a chance to build factories in America, because you've got to move atoms.

02:21:38.000 You've got to build a building.

02:21:39.000 You've got to install equipment.

02:21:41.000 You've got to train people.

02:21:43.000 That doesn't happen instantly.

02:21:47.000 You want to have a ramp so that companies can adjust and build the factories and train the people and get the equipment in place.

02:22:00.000 Otherwise, you basically just shock the system and it breaks or bad things happen.

02:22:05.000 I'm against sudden giant tariffs because it's an impossible response if you've got to move a thousand tons of equipment.

02:22:15.000 In some cases, collectively, millions of tons of equipment.

02:22:20.000 You just can't do that overnight.

02:22:21.000 It's literally impossible.

02:22:23.000 So, I think we want to be thoughtful about tariffs and give companies a ramp.

02:22:31.000 I mean, I do generally agree that America should do more manufacturing.

02:22:35.000 I'm a big manufacturing guy.

02:22:36.000 I love manufacturing.

02:22:38.000 I've spent a lot of time in the factory.

02:22:39.000 We've talked openly about the difficulties of manufacturing and how complicated it is and about most people who aren't really aware of something that's as complex as, say, building a Tesla.

02:22:50.000 Manufacturing is super hard and complicated.

02:22:55.000 A lot of people, they've never been in a factory or they don't know how difficult it is to make things.

02:23:01.000 And for a lot of people, I think just ketchup comes from the store.

02:23:06.000 For a lot of people who've been in academia or for all these socialist communist types, they've never actually made anything.

02:23:14.000 So they operate on the premise that there's this magical horn of plenty that just outputs goods and services.

02:23:21.000 And if someone's got more goods and services than someone else, it's because they took more from this magical horn of plenty.

02:23:26.000 And I'm like, guys, there's no magical horn of plenty.

02:23:29.000 There's no cornucopia.

02:23:32.000 It's actually goods and services come from people working collectively, doing a lot of hard work to produce the goods and services that you like and that you need.

02:23:42.000 But we've become very accustomed to these things happening overseas.

02:23:47.000 I mean, America is still the second biggest manufacturer in the world, so we still make a lot of stuff.

02:23:51.000 But we could make more.

02:23:54.000 We probably should make more.

02:23:56.000 I think we should value manufacturing a lot more in the United States than we currently do.

02:23:59.000 Well, it would be very nice if we were completely self-sufficient.

02:24:02.000 Like medicine, there's a bunch of different things that get manufactured overseas.

02:24:05.000 It was a huge problem during COVID because all the shipping was shut down.

02:24:10.000 Yeah, I mean, you don't want to say, like, so, there's a lot of merit to the economics of comparative advantage.

02:24:17.000 Like, so, if you're completely self-sufficient, what that means is that you make all the stuff yourself, and even if some other country is really good at making something, you still make it yourself, which means you're gonna have the inferior, more costly product domestically.

02:24:34.000 Right.

02:24:34.000 Like Soviet Russia.

02:24:36.000 Yeah.

02:24:39.000 Trade improves prosperity.

02:24:41.000 This is important.

02:24:44.000 You don't actually want to make everything yourself.

02:24:49.000 You can think of this thought experiment on a micro scale or small scale and then expand that and say at what point does the thought experiment no longer prove to be valid.

02:25:02.000 Now, let's consider the case of you as an individual.

02:25:05.000 Imagine you have to do everything yourself.

02:25:06.000 You have to farm.

02:25:07.000 You have to grow chickens. 0.62

02:25:11.000 You have to do eggs.

02:25:12.000 You've got to build your own house.

02:25:14.000 You've got to do your own electrical repair, your own plumbing, everything yourself.

02:25:18.000 Everything.

02:25:21.000 Now that would be impossible.

02:25:23.000 Okay, now let's expand it to, okay, there's 10 people.

02:25:26.000 Now you're going to have some specialization of tasks.

02:25:30.000 Okay, well, maybe one person could be really good at, you know, construction.

02:25:33.000 Another person could be good at farming.

02:25:35.000 It's like, but it's still, you know, 10 people is not enough.

02:25:38.000 It's like, let's go to 100 people.

02:25:39.000 Now let's go to 100 million people.

02:25:40.000 Now let's go to a billion people.

02:25:42.000 And you still get the economics of specialization, like specialization of labor, where people become expert at particular things, still matters at a billion people, or at eight billion people, which is Earth.

02:25:56.000 So you still want, you do want specialization of labor.

02:26:01.000 You do want countries to be really good at a particular thing and make that thing.

02:26:06.000 Also, it encourages innovation if you have competition.

02:26:08.000 If the Germans are making better cars, we have to make better cars. 0.99

02:26:11.000 We have to compete with them, which is, like, one of the things that happened during, like, the 80s and 90s, and America was making crap cars, and Germany was making much better ones.

02:26:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:26:20.000 I mean, the Japanese car, I mean...

02:26:24.000 Yeah, I mean, basically the American car industry got really lazy in the 70s and 80s, and then the Japanese and German car companies came in and just cleaned the clock, you know?

02:26:35.000 And there was like an old joke that is kind of telling.

02:26:42.000 It's a very old joke, where it's like, why did the Japanese car companies beat the American car companies?

02:26:48.000 Well, it's like, well, in the Japanese car company, you had eight people rowing and one person steering.

02:26:54.000 And in the American car company, you had eight people steering and one person rowing, if this was a boat.

02:26:58.000 So imagine the boat race.

02:27:00.000 Yeah.

02:27:01.000 Boat race, Japanese boat, you've got eight people rowing and one person steering. 0.88

02:27:04.000 In the American boat, you've got one person rowing and eight people steering.

02:27:10.000 And when the American car company loses the race, they fire the rower.

02:27:17.000 And it's like, okay, that was actually kind of true.

02:27:20.000 Everyone wants to be the boss and everyone wants to do the work type of thing.

02:27:24.000 Yeah.

02:27:25.000 One thing that a lot of people are concerned about is the potential disruption that's going to come about with automation and AI. That a lot of these jobs, manufacturing jobs, Teamsters, all that stuff, is going to be eliminated.

02:27:41.000 I mean, you're at the forefront of this, so how do you see this playing out, and what do you think that can be done to mitigate a lot of the loss of purpose that a lot of people are going to feel, loss of income, obviously universal basic income is being floated about,

02:27:58.000 but that seems to me to only be part of the problem.

02:28:02.000 Another big part of the problem is people losing a sense of purpose.

02:28:07.000 Yeah.

02:28:07.000 No, we're talking about something which is still pretty far in the future.

02:28:13.000 How far do you think it is?

02:28:16.000 Well, I mean, it's probably, I don't know, 15, 20 years type of thing.

02:28:22.000 So we've got, like, immediate issues.

02:28:25.000 We've got short-term issues that are, I don't know, one to three years.

02:28:29.000 Medium-term issues, like five to ten years.

02:28:31.000 Longer-term issues, which are, like, maybe 20 years.

02:28:34.000 Longer-term, I think there is this question, if you have AI and robotics, how do you find meaning in life?

02:28:40.000 If the computer can do everything better, then you can.

02:28:42.000 And the robot can do everything better than you can.

02:28:45.000 But we've got a long way to go before that.

02:28:50.000 And I do think it's like 80% likely to be a good outcome, like maybe 90%.

02:28:54.000 So I think everyone's going to have their own personal robot.

02:29:01.000 And I think at some point, wouldn't you want to have your own personal C-3PO R2-D2? So it's going to be essentially just like everyone has their own phone.

02:29:10.000 Yeah, everyone will have their own robot buddy.

02:29:14.000 Like, literally.

02:29:15.000 Well, it would be great if it protected you.

02:29:18.000 Like, if you walked down the street of New York City and you have a Terminator with you?

02:29:21.000 I don't know about the Terminator.

02:29:22.000 Hopefully, we've got to avoid...

02:29:24.000 We don't want this to be the plot of a James Cameron...

02:29:26.000 More Gene Roddenberry than James Cameron movie situation.

02:29:32.000 But it would be fascinating to watch some rich person walk down the street of New York City flanked by two giant Tesla robots, jacked Tesla robots that were there to protect you.

02:29:40.000 Like Robocop or something?

02:29:41.000 Yeah.

02:29:42.000 Somebody fully robot there to protect you from a bad neighborhood.

02:29:46.000 Yeah.

02:29:47.000 That would be very interesting.

02:29:50.000 I mean, this is...

02:29:51.000 You could potentially see that.

02:29:53.000 Yeah.

02:29:54.000 Restaurants would probably have no robot rules.

02:29:56.000 You can't bring a robot...

02:29:59.000 Yeah, leave your robot outside, your robot standing by the table.

02:30:04.000 Man, the future's going to be wild.

02:30:06.000 It's going to be wild.

02:30:07.000 Yeah.

02:30:08.000 It's going to be really unpredictable.

02:30:11.000 Like, I don't think, I mean, you probably have a pretty good sense of it, but I think most people don't understand the wave that's coming.

02:30:18.000 Yeah.

02:30:19.000 And I was going to kind of completely drown society and change it forever.

02:30:24.000 Yeah.

02:30:25.000 Yeah.

02:30:27.000 I mean, like I said, it's not going to happen overnight, but 20 years from now, I think there's going to be more humanoid robots than there are humans.

02:30:40.000 Really?

02:30:41.000 Yes.

02:30:42.000 More humanized robots.

02:30:43.000 That's so crazy.

02:30:44.000 So that's like more guns.

02:30:46.000 We have more guns than people in America.

02:30:48.000 We'll have more robots than people in America as well.

02:30:50.000 Yes.

02:30:51.000 You have a bunch of old robots nobody wants anymore.

02:30:54.000 I guess.

02:30:57.000 Early versions or something.

02:31:01.000 In a historical timeline, 20 years in the past has not been that big of a deal.

02:31:07.000 I mean, this is a big deal, but you go from like 1900, 1920, not that big of a deal.

02:31:12.000 1920, 1940, eh, kind of a big deal.

02:31:15.000 1940, 1960, things start getting weird.

02:31:17.000 60 to 80, wow, that's a big difference. 0.89

02:31:20.000 80 to 2000, holy shit, now you have the internet. 0.98

02:31:23.000 2000 to 2020, whoa, this is nuts. 0.98

02:31:27.000 You have propaganda, social media, YouTube, streaming.

02:31:32.000 20 years from now, like, what are we even talking about?

02:31:38.000 It's going to be that much of a shift.

02:31:40.000 Like, it's all accelerating.

02:31:42.000 And we're in the middle of it, so it's very difficult to sort of, like, feel it while it's happening.

02:31:47.000 Because it kind of just feels like life.

02:31:50.000 And you just get adapted to the changes.

02:31:55.000 Yeah.

02:31:57.000 I mean, people's phones at this point are a supercomputer in their pocket, like an article that can answer any questions and people just take it for granted.

02:32:03.000 Yeah.

02:32:04.000 It's normal.

02:32:05.000 They'll get mad if it doesn't work.

02:32:07.000 It's like Louis CK's joke about using your phone when you're on a plane. 1.00

02:32:10.000 Ah, fucking piece of shit. 1.00

02:32:11.000 You're in the sky! 1.00

02:32:13.000 You're floating in the air!

02:32:15.000 And now it will work with Starlink too.

02:32:17.000 What's that?

02:32:17.000 It will work with Starlink.

02:32:18.000 The Starlink connection, it'll be like being on the ground.

02:32:22.000 Well, I was telling you how I used Starlink when I was in Utah.

02:32:25.000 I was in the mountains of Utah.

02:32:26.000 There was no cell phone service anywhere near.

02:32:28.000 And we had full YouTube.

02:32:31.000 We had text messages, FaceTime, everything.

02:32:35.000 Phone calls.

02:32:36.000 It was nuts!

02:32:38.000 And it was, it's this big as that cigar box.

02:32:40.000 It's crazy.

02:32:41.000 It's so light.

02:32:42.000 When I brought it out there, like, that's it?

02:32:44.000 I was like, this is it.

02:32:44.000 Let's just plug it in.

02:32:46.000 And the guys I was in camp with were like, this is crazy.

02:32:49.000 The whole camp was sharing it.

02:32:51.000 So it was like 10 people using the Wi-Fi signal.

02:32:54.000 It's nuts!

02:32:57.000 And then, you know, that's the beginning.

02:33:01.000 I mean, what you're at right now is like, what version?

02:33:04.000 This is Starlink Mini, right?

02:33:06.000 So this is like a very small version.

02:33:07.000 How much smaller can it scale down from that?

02:33:10.000 Well, there's a certain area that you need...

02:33:14.000 Like, the bigger the area, the more you can...

02:33:18.000 Higher the bandwidth?

02:33:19.000 Yeah, because you're, like, trying to catch these, like, photons, essentially.

02:33:23.000 So you can think of the, like, the area of the...

02:33:30.000 The more air you have, the more photons you can catch.

02:33:37.000 But we have a direct-to-cell capability as well.

02:33:40.000 We've been launching that will turn on probably in a few months.

02:33:45.000 That'll actually connect directly to a cell phone unmodified.

02:33:48.000 But because the cell phone is a much worse antenna than a dedicated antenna, it'll be about 100 times less bandwidth.

02:33:54.000 But still, you'll be able to do text messages, pictures, medium resolution videos, that kind of thing.

02:34:01.000 One of the cool things about the new phone, the new iPhone, the iPhone 16, I got it and I was in the mountains last month and I was text messaging with satellites.

02:34:10.000 Yeah.

02:34:11.000 iMessages.

02:34:12.000 Right.

02:34:12.000 And receiving them.

02:34:13.000 But just text.

02:34:14.000 Yeah, just text.

02:34:15.000 Yeah.

02:34:15.000 But still pretty impressive.

02:34:16.000 Yeah.

02:34:17.000 Yeah.

02:34:19.000 I mean, what are we going to be looking at 100 years from now?

02:34:22.000 I mean, when you...

02:34:24.000 100 years from now, I hope civilization's around.

02:34:27.000 Yeah, that'll be a win.

02:34:28.000 Yeah.

02:34:29.000 Yeah.

02:34:30.000 What are the chances that we've fucked this whole thing up?

02:34:35.000 50%?

02:34:39.000 It's hard to say.

02:34:40.000 I mean...

02:34:47.000 I don't think civilization will be totally destroyed unless there's some really massive global thermonuclear war.

02:34:54.000 But...

02:34:57.000 Stephen Hawking, he would say that there's at least a 1% chance of total annihilation every century.

02:35:03.000 That was his rough estimate.

02:35:06.000 But there's a much bigger chance of civilization being less capable than it is today.

02:35:14.000 Because you look at, say, these various civilizations throughout history, whether it's the ancient Sumerians or the Egyptians, the Romans.

02:35:26.000 There's like a life cycle to civilization.

02:35:28.000 They reached a peak and then they started subsiding.

02:35:33.000 So I think a bigger question is, will our technology level be better or worse than it is today in 100 years?

02:35:45.000 I think it's probably going to be better.

02:35:52.000 But any estimates are going to be so...

02:35:54.000 There's so many dependencies.

02:35:57.000 An estimate, I think, is...

02:35:59.000 I'm not sure it has any meaning because there's so many things that can happen in 100 years.

02:36:04.000 Well, the logical hope is always that people pay attention to history and they recognize the patterns and how civilizations have collapsed.

02:36:11.000 And they recognize what's going wrong in the current society and say, we have to do our best to mitigate this.

02:36:18.000 And we've seen this happen before.

02:36:21.000 Let's course correct and let's sort of...

02:36:24.000 Manage what we've got here now and maintain what we've got here now because it's pretty extraordinary.

02:36:29.000 This is what we're hoping for with this election.

02:36:32.000 This is what we're hoping for with the future is that people can see we are on a bad path and something can be done right now and it might be the only moment in history where this is possible.

02:36:44.000 Because if they do lock the country down and make it so that voting is kind of bullshit, you're only voting for primaries, and the people that they put in the primaries, they're controlling that in the first place.

02:36:53.000 You don't really have democracy anymore. 0.89

02:36:55.000 You don't really have choice.

02:36:57.000 Exactly.

02:36:57.000 You don't really have freedom.

02:36:59.000 That's right.

02:37:01.000 Yeah, I think freedom is fundamentally at stake in the election tomorrow, and we'll know.

02:37:05.000 I think we'll know by the end of the day tomorrow.

02:37:07.000 I don't think it's going to take – it's not going to be like days after the election.

02:37:10.000 I think we'll know tomorrow.

02:37:10.000 Are you optimistic?

02:37:12.000 I'm currently optimistic, but the biggest factor here is that men need to vote. 0.82

02:37:19.000 That is the biggest issue.

02:37:21.000 So I don't know what the reason is, but men just vote at a much lower rate than women.

02:37:28.000 I think it's like 9%, right?

02:37:30.000 Someone just told me that today.

02:37:31.000 It's a big difference.

02:37:35.000 And I'm just saying, there's a message to the men out there, vote like your life depends on it, because I think it does.

02:37:42.000 Vote tomorrow like your life depends on it.

02:37:44.000 Nothing is more important.

02:37:46.000 I agree.

02:37:48.000 Listen, man, thank you for being here. 0.94

02:37:49.000 I know you're busy as fuck, so I really appreciate your time. 0.94

02:37:52.000 And again, I thank you so much for buying Twitter because I really do believe that you've changed the course of history. 0.97

02:37:58.000 I really do think you've created a pathway where people can actually express themselves and actually exchange information that really didn't exist before.

02:38:08.000 And I think it was dangerous.

02:38:10.000 It is dangerous.

02:38:11.000 Hopefully I live long enough to see my kids grow up and people on Mars.

02:38:16.000 That would be cool.

02:38:17.000 That's all I'm asking for here.

02:38:19.000 I don't think that's too much to ask.

02:38:22.000 Thank you very much.

02:38:23.000 Appreciate you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - November 04, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2223 - Elon Musk

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