On this week's episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe and John talk about the results of the mid-term elections, why Trump got elected, and what it means for the future of the country. They also talk about what it's like to be the president of the United States and how hard it is to actually get things done, and how it's not as easy as it looks like it should be. Also, they talk about why John Bolton is a good guy, and why he's not a bad guy. Joe also talks about why he thinks John Bolton should be the next president of North Korea and why it's a good idea to have a guy like John Bolton as your VP pick, because he's good at dealing with people like Tony Hinchcliffe. Joe also explains why he doesn't think Kim Jong Un is a bad dude and why they should all be scared of John Bolton. Plus, he talks about how he thinks Trump is a terrible president and why you should vote for Donald Trump. And how he's probably not as good as you think you're going to get a second chance at being president, but maybe not as bad as he thinks you think he is. If you like it, tweet me and let us know what you thought of it! Timestamps: 8:00 - Who's your favorite president? 9:30 - What's the worst president you've ever voted for? 11:20 - Who do you think is the best? 16:40 - How did you think Trump did it? 17: Who's the best president you voted for you? 18:00:00 19:10 - What are you most likely to be a good president you should be? 21: What do you like about Donald Trump? 22:00 | Who's a better guy? 23:00 Is John Bolton a good dude? 25:00 What are your favorite foreign policy person? 26:00 Are you a good deal? 27:00 How do you feel about John Bolton's deal with John Bolton? 28:00 Do you think John Bolton good enough? 29:00 Does John Bolton better than Donald Trump better than John Bolton really have a chance of winning the Nobel Prize? 31:00 Should you want to go to war with North Korea? 32:00 Can you be a better president than Trump or not? 35:30
00:00:31.000As much as we fucking thought they had it rigged, as much as we thought there were shenanigans and bullshit and it's just a puppet show and there's no way anybody could buck the system, turns out voting is still real.
00:00:52.000Wasn't it, it was crazy because it was like for weeks, especially in the close of the campaign, it was one of those things where it felt like, It almost felt like 2008 when Obama was running against McCain, and it was just so obvious Obama was running away with this.
00:01:09.000Everything you could see and observe, his crowd sizes, the enthusiasm, the culture, it was all behind him.
00:01:15.000But at that time, the polls were reflecting what you saw everywhere.
00:02:12.000Joy Reid spent the entire time she was discussing Trump the other day comparing him to Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler, talking about a right-wing authoritarian regime as if he had never been president for four years and didn't behave like any of those things.
00:02:30.000As if the economy wasn't booming, as if people weren't making more money, as if we weren't involved in any new conflicts overseas, no new wars.
00:02:38.000I could point to a lot of things Trump did in his four years that I think were bad, but they were things that were similar to Obama and Bush.
00:03:02.000He didn't know who any of these people were.
00:03:04.000He had to trust people that he knew and he didn't know who was telling them the truth and who was just trying to get the system moving along in the exact same direction.
00:03:11.000And he got bogged down with a lot of that shit.
00:03:13.000It took forever for them to weed it out.
00:03:16.000Which is the crazy thing about being president.
00:03:18.000It's the hardest job on the planet and you start it without any knowledge of it.
00:03:23.000And I mean, a little bit of that's on him, because there were some people who he probably should have known.
00:03:27.000What I didn't like in his answer about that to you is that then he kind of pivoted to talking about how John Bolton was actually really good to have there, because he's terrifying.
00:04:24.000Look, there's obviously a huge series of these things where the Democrat establishment and the corporate media, but I repeat myself, it's death by a thousand self-inflicted wounds.
00:05:31.000So they're talking about the comedian who made jokes about Puerto Rico while Tony's on stage on the other screen.
00:05:38.000So Tony's on stage at the mothership while this guy's talking about what Tony did on CNN. And they're going over like the Puerto Rican population and how they voted.
00:05:48.000Just pull it up because it's fucking crazy.
00:05:51.000We're watching it and Metzger was back there.
00:07:07.000But I'm saying like, if this was happening in 2016, if in 2016 Trump came to Manhattan to give a speech, there would have been like thousands of protesters.
00:07:18.000I was there actually in 2016 when that did happen.
00:07:21.000Everyone's talking about how AI is going to change the world, but what if that's not always a good thing?
00:07:27.000What happens if insurance companies use it to jack up your premiums based on your WebMD history?
00:07:32.000What happens if HR departments use it to make hiring decisions based on your browsing history?
00:07:39.000What happens if politicians use it to sway your vote based on your online activity?
00:10:25.000But it's Donald Trump as the messenger was so polarized and the people lost what's really going on just based on who this guy is who has, just like Tony Hinchcliffe is an insult comic, Donald Trump's entire career is, you're fired.
00:10:52.000But along with that, now you get RFK Jr., you get Tulsi Gabbard, you get Elon Musk, and you get J.D. Vance.
00:11:01.000You get brilliant people who aren't ideologically captured, two of them who used to be Democrats, one of them that probably knows more about environmental polluting and about the problems with pharmaceutical drug companies and health and the consequences of All sorts of pesticides and herbicides,
00:11:19.000ingredients in your food that should be banned and are banned in other countries.
00:11:23.000And we got a real chance to make real change.
00:11:26.000This is like one of the first times ever where there's a real chance to make real tangible change that's going to be for the good of everybody.
00:12:06.000Look, I mean, Donald Trump now, he has a real mandate, which is like, this is kind of what's crazy.
00:12:12.000This isn't 2016 where, you know, he lost by several million votes in the popular vote, but won the counties that were important and just by the skin of his teeth got in.
00:12:23.000This is like, he's, I mean, the last I looked, he was up by over five million in the popular vote.
00:12:28.000Yeah, five million in the popular vote.
00:12:29.000And what was it when I went to bed, it was 312?
00:12:58.000You know, and obviously improve the economy, deal with inflation, things like that.
00:13:03.000But he's got a mandate to do that right now, and he's got some great people around him.
00:13:09.000Listen, I was rooting for him as hard as anyone except Tony Hinchcliffe last night.
00:13:15.000But I will say now, I think now till January 20th, the pressure should be on Trump for To do better on the appointments than he did last time.
00:13:26.000He's got a lot of better people around him than he ever had in 2016 or 2020, but he was floating out Mike Pompeo as the Secretary of Defense, and he did have Mike Pompeo speak at his final campaign event.
00:13:41.000To be clear, Mike Pompeo is Liz Cheney's pick for defense secretary.
00:13:46.000It's Hillary Clinton's pick for defense secretary.
00:13:49.000And so much of this will be lost if he puts that guy in there.
00:13:52.000He needs to keep all of the Lindsey Grahams and the Mike Pompeo's and all of these guys away from his administration.
00:14:01.000Bring in the non-interventionists, man.
00:14:03.000No one wants to fight these stupid wars anymore.
00:14:06.000And that's what you ran on and won on.
00:14:08.000I want Lindsey Graham to start a podcast.
00:14:42.000He was attacking Donald Trump for probably not being an awful war hawk or something like that, and Donald Trump said something about how he used to call him and ask for money when he was running for campaign, and then he just gave his phone number out.
00:14:57.000He made a senator change his phone number.
00:16:46.000And also, You know, look, his rhetoric was so great on Ukraine through the election.
00:16:52.000And when he had the courage to just say, like, no, I want the dying to stop.
00:16:56.000That was one of the best moments of the entire campaign.
00:16:59.000But his rhetoric on Israel has been very bad.
00:17:03.000And the other thing that you can't get around is that, like, listen, you can love Israel all you want to, and you can pledge to help defend them or whatever.
00:17:23.000He's the guy who came over and testified in 2002 before a congressional hearing and advocated that we overthrow Saddam Hussein and also advocated that we go have a regime change war in Iran, which he still wants to this day.
00:17:36.000He advocated we had the regime change in Libya, in Syria.
00:19:45.000But I do think another huge component of why Trump's got such an opportunity right now is because you see it where, like I was saying, the protesters aren't there anymore.
00:19:58.000There's a whole lot of really interesting reasons, I think, for why that is.
00:20:02.000And I was getting in an argument on Twitter the other day with Michael Tracy, who I do like and respect very much.
00:20:10.000But I was basically saying that I think this is going to be a death blow for the corporate media if Donald Trump wins again.
00:20:16.000And this is almost the best thing about him winning again.
00:20:18.000And he was saying, which is a reasonable argument, but I disagree with him.
00:20:24.000I mean, look, last time he was in for four years, that was the best thing that ever happened to CNN and MSNBC. And they got a big ratings boost when he was in.
00:20:32.000But I don't think that's going to work again.
00:20:34.000I don't think it's going to work either.
00:20:35.000Well, the thing is that so much of that ratings boost was completely driven by the Russiagate nonsense.
00:20:42.000And what they were telling you at the time was that they had the biggest scandal in the history of the United States of America.
00:20:48.000Like, you can't overstate how big that story is.
00:20:55.000But they're reporting that a hostile foreign power has overturned our election and the sitting president of the United States of America is in on it.
00:21:06.000He is involved in a conspiracy with a hostile foreign government.
00:21:10.000That's the biggest scandal in the history of America.
00:21:12.000And for anybody who wasn't aware at the time of how fake and evil the entire system is, They were like, well, look, they got a special prosecutor on the president.
00:21:25.000I mean, there must be something there.
00:21:27.000And hey, I just heard the chair of the House Intelligence Committee tell me he's seen the evidence and that he's guilty of this.
00:21:34.000And you had the former CIA director, John Brennan, saying that Trump and his family are going to be hauled off in handcuffs on television once Mueller's investigation concludes.
00:21:44.000And so for the regular person, especially for the regular person who really hated Donald Trump, it was pretty easy to get sucked into that.
00:21:51.000But after that was exposed for being a giant fake, and then the big one is COVID. I just don't think they can recover.
00:22:21.000Well, it started as opposition research, and then the intelligence agencies jumped on that and decided, knowing that it was all bullshit, decided to use it to frame the sitting president of the United States of America of treason.
00:22:38.000Listen, a few episodes back, one time we went real deep into this, but that claim, this is just a fact.
00:22:45.000They lied on the FISA court application to spy on Carter Page, who was a low-level advisor for Donald Trump, just an excuse to spy on Trump's campaign, and they lied to the FISA court.
00:22:58.000They omitted the fact that That the CIA had already told them that Carter Page wasn't a spy and that he was working with them and that he was one of their good guys.
00:23:07.000As the FBI went to the CIA and they were like, we have information that says that the Russians approached Carter Page.
00:23:15.000He came and told us immediately because he's working with us.
00:23:18.000And then what they put on the FISA application is they said, we believe that the Russians approached him and the CIA confirmed that was true.
00:24:50.000Well, he became the guy who wasn't just funding a lot of politicians and being like a famous guy, and he became the guy who was calling all of them out and threatening to drain the swamp.
00:25:25.000I give a pass to some celebrities that come out.
00:25:28.000But then when you have some of them that are making videos, all the Avengers get together, like, hey, are you trying to get me to hate superhero movies?
00:25:35.000You trying to show me your real fucking weird personalities and get me to hate superhero movies?
00:26:52.000No one's been there in fucking generations.
00:26:54.000My wife is Italian, and all my in-laws, her whole family is Italian.
00:26:59.000And it is like, when you have a dinner, it's just everyone yells.
00:27:02.000Like everything's a yell like I'll literally hurt her my brother-in-law who I love great guy super smart But he will if he's agreeing with you in a conversation and you were like in the next room You would be like is they about to fight?
00:27:36.000You got Felix Trinidad, you got Gomez, Wilfredo Gomez.
00:27:39.000You got incredible fighters came out of this one place.
00:27:42.000You have a fucking tough population, man.
00:27:44.000I mean, I'm sure there was a few people that were pissed off at that joke, but the reality is, this is one of the things that helped Tony, is that joke was based about Tony's concern for the environment.
00:29:17.000It's the worst setup of all time for comedy.
00:29:21.000I remember in real time when I was watching it, I was like, well, I mean, Tony's not going to be able to do Tony in this setup, so I wonder what he's going to do.
00:29:29.000And then as it starts, you're like, oh, he's just going to do Tony.
00:30:29.000She says that she did, but we're almost positive that she didn't.
00:30:32.000I never met her in any of the shows in LA. I mean, she could have conceivably have bought a ticket to Madison Square Garden, but she never posted about it.
00:30:42.000Well, she probably wouldn't post about it.
00:33:06.000Listen, you guys have a real problem with someone disagreeing with you.
00:33:10.000And you want to, in any way, shape, or form that's possible, turn that person into a demon.
00:33:17.000You never want to have someone who has an opposing perspective that should be considered or may be countered with better information, which is what we're all supposed to be doing.
00:33:27.000Ideally, with people of good character and who go into arguments with good faith, you should be able to respectfully disagree and have conversations with things This is like everybody who thinks one way is bad.
00:33:39.000Everybody who thinks this way is good.
00:33:41.000We'll do whatever we can to destroy the people that are that way.
00:35:04.000And again, it's like, you know, Look, to the point you were making before, right, about the Russia collusion hoax and no one getting in trouble for it, if you were to look at, say, the weapons of mass destruction lie that got us into war in Iraq,
00:35:19.000killed a million people, cost trillions of dollars, and tens of thousands of our bravest young men blowing their brains out, you know, just an unmitigated disaster.
00:35:28.000And none of the people who sold that lost their jobs or, you know, they're not, like, I don't know what they should be doing.
00:35:36.000Maybe, like, picking up garbage by the side of the road, apologizing to every car that passes them.
00:35:59.000Now, if you want to just be that person that says he's a convicted felon and just repeat it over and over again, understand that now you're changing what the law means because you don't like a guy, and that can be used on you.
00:36:12.000This is what happens in dictatorships.
00:36:15.000This is what happens when communism takes over a country and you get a military dictatorship.
00:37:27.000One of the best things that I do on this show is when I have Josh Dubin on, who used to work with the Innocence Project and now does things on his own, where they're trying to find people that have been unfairly prosecuted by bad judges and by bad prosecutors and get them out of fucking jail.
00:37:42.000Oh, can I just say real quick, dude, because if I don't, I want to make sure I say this while we're here, but to President-elect Donald Trump, dude, he came to the Libertarian Party convention this year, and he promised us, and a whole bunch of people, myself included,
00:37:58.000like supported him for this, and he did carry, I think, the Libertarian vote.
00:38:03.000And he promised us he was going to free Ross Ulbricht on day one.
00:38:07.000And like, if you're listening, Mr. President, if this gets to you, please, please come through on that promise, man.
00:38:12.000This kid has done over a decade in jail already.
00:38:45.000He got life without parole for making a website.
00:38:49.000And I've gotten to know his mother, Lynn, over the years, and she's like the sweetest lady, and she's just in the middle of this nightmare.
00:38:56.000Like her whole life has been a nightmare for the last 11 years or whatever it's been.
00:39:00.000I really just please come through on that one.
00:39:03.000There's no political capital even to be spent on it.
00:39:05.000It's one of the best things he did when he was president last year.
00:39:08.000Last time was, you know, freeing people who were just in jail on BS and way over prosecuted.
00:39:13.000And he said he was going to do it on day one.
00:39:15.000And I'm just saying we a lot of people supported him for that.
00:39:36.000Look, now that we know, what we know now, like the FBI... Did this whole internal thing with him and they used people and agents to trap him.
00:39:46.000But now what we know about what they did with the kidnapping case for Gretchen Whitmer, we didn't know that before.
00:39:52.000We didn't know that you could have a kidnapping case where there's 14 people and 12 of them are FBI informants.
00:39:58.000So you got 12 people working with the FBI, two retards.
00:40:02.000You convince these dumbasses that they should go and kidnap the fucking governor, and they're like cosplayin'.
00:40:25.000There's been dozens and dozens of these FBI, what they call, sting operations, which are really entrapment since 9-11, where they get, oh, we thwarted another terrorist attack.
00:40:36.000But no, they didn't thwart a terrorist attack.
00:40:38.000They planned a terrorist attack and then thwarted it.
00:40:44.000Every single time, I always find this fascinating.
00:40:46.000Every time the FBI wants to do one of these terrorist entrapment things, which again, they've done dozens and dozens of since 9-11, every time when they approach young Muslim guys who are on radical websites or something like that, every time, they never go up there and they say,
00:41:02.000hey, how do you feel about America being free and prosperous?
00:41:06.000Or how do you feel about the fact that we don't have Sharia law here or anything?
00:41:51.000And if we got to hear Albrook's story, I bet it'd be wildly different than the narrative that we heard in the courtroom or it was in the documentary.
00:42:59.000It's that nobody thinks, like, oh, if we let him out, you know, he's some type of violent criminal who might do another violent thing or something like that.
00:43:07.000You could just end the nightmare that this sweet woman is going through, and him, of course, too.
00:43:13.000Okay, so we both agree on this, but let me ask you, okay, what about Snowden?
00:43:17.000Do you think he has the balls to pardon Snowden?
00:43:19.000Well, okay, so the thing about Snowden, right, is that, and now the Julian Assange case has kind of been taken off the table, even though I guess technically he could still pardon him, but that takes real political capital.
00:43:32.000Now, I think he should pardon Snowden.
00:43:42.000And they do not want to set the precedent that you can release the fact that we're doing a bunch of illegal shit that we are lying to the American people about, and then you can go tell them that we are, in fact, doing the thing that we lied and said we weren't doing.
00:44:01.000Now, if he were to pardon Snowden, that would be a real signal that he is willing to take on the deep state.
00:44:09.000He's willing to take on the real powerful entrenched interests.
00:44:12.000Now, again, I'm not claiming to- it's obviously the right thing to do, morally speaking, but I'm- You got to have a really smart strategy if you're actually going to do this.
00:44:24.000You know, I remember one time during the Ron Paul presidential campaign, I think it was in 2012, and someone asked him, you know, like a question about like, when you're in there and you're president, are you going to tell the CIA like, hey, you, you guys are done and you're this and you're this?
00:44:38.000And he went, well, I might say it a little bit nicer than that.
00:44:44.000I am trying to abolish the CIA, but let's be cool here.
00:44:50.000So if Edward Snowden, if he really did expose things that were illegal, that were not supposed to be done, and the fear of bringing him back is that the people that did the illegal things want to continue doing illegal things and don't want to have any repercussions for doing illegal things.
00:45:07.000That seems like a crazy thing to support, even for them to defend it.
00:45:12.000They should want internal accountability.
00:45:14.000They should want to make sure that no one colors outside the lines, no one does anything without congressional approval, all the stuff you're supposed to do when you're doing certain things.
00:45:22.000But the problem is now with the FDA and FISA and all these different laws that have been passed that allow surveillance to be done warrantless.
00:45:33.000It's kind of a moot point, almost, at this point.
00:45:40.000Back then, he exposed that they could listen to every call, they have data centers.
00:46:01.000Well, and also, and one of the things that was so disappointing about Trump not pardoning Julian Assange and Snowden in his first term, and again, a lot of that is because It's like when he told you, why didn't he release the JFK files?
00:46:16.000Well, because he was listening to Liz Cheney's pick for defense secretary, Mike Pompeo.
00:46:21.000And people convinced him not to do it.
00:46:23.000But it's like, at a certain point, you're like, okay, first of all, The spying that Snowden exposed was weaponized against you.
00:46:52.000Yes, but he also had a lame duck period.
00:46:54.000I mean, he had a period where he knew he wasn't gonna have a second term and still had the power, but he was worried about the impeachment.
00:48:11.000What do you think about that thing I sent you today that compares the number of people that voted in 2020 versus the number of people that voted in 2024 and in 2016?
00:50:43.000And, you know, I just say, you know how in, like, the corporate media world, it's like this is the biggest crime ever to even ask this question?
00:50:52.000But you kind of can't blame us for asking it when everything you say is a lie.
00:50:56.000The ballots that came in the middle of the night are weird.
00:50:59.000And the fact that you had mail-in ballots, that's weird.
00:51:01.000Because the thing about mail-in ballots is different than anything else.
00:51:04.000It's not a chain of custody, all right?
00:51:06.000There's a guy who drops it off and then the postman gets it.
00:51:08.000And who knows what the fuck that guy does?
00:52:17.000If you're a cab driver from some other country and you're over in America and someone says, I'm going to give you a bag of ballots, I'm going to put them in your trunk and you're going to go take them to this place.
00:52:31.000When you're doing low-level scams in small counties where you have corrupt people that are working the voting machines, how many Republicans are paying attention?
00:52:42.000Democrats are paying attention to the corrupt Republicans.
00:52:48.000To pretend that we lie about the very fine people, he said there were very fine people on both sides, Obama's lying about that in front of the whole world.
00:53:01.000If every word that comes out of your mouth is a lie, that you can't tell me that I'm not allowed to suspect.
00:53:07.000And also, you know, It's like if what Rachel Maddow says is real, right?
00:53:13.000Like if you're telling me your worldview is essentially that Adolf Hitler is running for president, it looks like it's a coin flip if he's going to win.
00:53:21.000That's what they were telling us, that it was 50-50.
00:54:25.000But anyway, but you're saying someone wouldn't – it's also – it's like it's not even just that they're liars who are in the business of propaganda.
00:55:28.000Like, if you really believe in the democratic process and if you really believe in the democratic party, you should want the best representative of your party as voted for by the population.
00:56:33.000And you guys are still doing goofy shit, like taking people out of context and not knowing that people are going to make YouTube clips showing what he actually said versus you.
00:56:41.000And it's going to undermine your credibility even more.
00:57:44.000Like, what are you—first of all, that's like saying to someone, like, will you— Anything, any crime that you would never do, like, will you disavow murder?
00:58:19.000But to your point, which I think is a really good one, and I think I love the analogy for people who are MMA fans, it really is like, it's like someone coming into MMA in 2024 and being like, I'm a jiu-jitsu specialist, I've never trained wrestling or striking.
00:58:34.000And you're like, Okay, that's not going to work anymore.
00:58:37.000I know that worked in 1993, but that's not going to work.
00:58:40.000They have not adapted to the new world that we're living in now.
00:58:45.000And you saw there was a lot of evidence of this.
00:58:50.000These things that used to work now come with a heavy price.
00:59:06.000And this is the idea is that you're never going to get your message out there unless you say the same thing over and over again to everyone.
00:59:40.000I mean, he's got themes that he hits a lot, like all of us kind of do, but he doesn't do that.
00:59:46.000And he did, and Donald Trump, one of the brilliant things, and man, I mean, I can't believe I haven't just asked you this already about this, but One of the really brilliant things that Donald Trump did, which obviously, look, RFK did it, and Vivek Ramaswamy, I think both, like, they recognize, like, look, we're in a new landscape here.
01:00:02.000And there are these shows on the internet that have much bigger audiences than these traditional shows.
01:00:07.000Oh, and by the way, I get to go long, and I can really give an in-depth, you know, like, point on every single topic.
01:00:15.000And, dude, I mean, Trump coming on here and her refusing to, this is...
01:00:22.000Dude, you kind of put Donald Trump in the White House.
01:02:30.000If you ask Vivek a question about that, if you ask J.D. Vance a question about that, I bet if they were accused, they would be able to rattle off all those numbers and statistics.
01:02:40.000I think that Vivek probably wouldn't make the claim exactly in the same way that Donald Trump is.
01:03:01.000Well, the thing is, one of the things that was really interesting, and that was one of the most interesting moments of your show with him, was that you weren't asking it the way CNN would ask it.
01:03:57.000Where he goes, he's like, like, I don't really have any evidence that they stole the election from him, but they clearly rigged the thing against him.
01:04:06.000And then just kind of goes through, like, all the censorship, the Hunter Biden story, the media.
01:04:10.000And so in that environment, it's very easy...
01:04:15.000You know, the analogy that I use, I think I may have said this before to you, but it's almost like if there's a guy who's like cheating on his wife all the time, and then one day she's like, last Friday you didn't answer your phone when you were out, I know you were cheating on me.
01:04:29.000And she's wrong, he wasn't cheating that Friday.
01:04:32.000She's kind of right, even though she's wrong.
01:04:34.000She might get the detail wrong, but her overall suspicion is, in fact, correct.
01:04:39.000I think there was a lot of that with Trump supporters, where it's just like, listen, man, you framed him for treason for three years of his presidency, then you shut down the economy, and that was totally Partially, at least, to ruin his economy for his re-election year.
01:04:54.000Then you were totally supporting the riots that were destroying.
01:05:36.000But, yeah, but also, Rudy Giuliani is a lawyer, and he should know that, like, you kind of can't say that unless you got something to really present.
01:05:46.000And the way you should say it is by presenting the evidence.
01:06:13.000Defamation case brought by two former Georgia election workers marks a new low point for the man once lauded as America's mayor, whose advocacy of Donald Trump's false election claims led to criminal charges and hefty legal bills.
01:07:46.000Repeated false claims about her and her mother saying that they were engaged in changing votes.
01:07:52.000I personally cannot repair my reputation at the moment because your client is still lying on me and ruining my reputation further, she told Giuliani's lawyer.
01:10:17.000The whole war on tobacco, which I guess vapes aren't tobacco, but the whole crackdown on smoking and everything that kind of happened in my lifetime is...
01:10:31.000It's really, really wild when you take into account all the stuff that Bobby Kennedy talks about.
01:10:36.000Where you're like, yeah, but we're like the most unhealthy country.
01:10:39.000And you took away, like, yeah, a lot more people used to smoke cigarettes, and cigarettes aren't good for you, sure, but we were a healthier country when people were smoking cigarettes.
01:10:47.000We need regulation, my little Billy and his strawberry baby.
01:11:22.000No, if you want flavor, you have to have that and a stick of gum.
01:11:26.000If you live in California, you can get your cinnamon gum and you can chew your cinnamon gum with your fucking no flavor zin and you can have a nice little experience, almost like you have a cinnamon zin.
01:11:37.000But you're not allowed to have a cinnamon zin because you're too much of a fucking baby.
01:11:53.000I mean, not like the way they used to.
01:11:55.000You know, there's not people smoking cigarettes like that.
01:11:57.000But every single town I go to in this entire country has an Arby's and a Burger King and a KFC. Like, they have every single town, even when they have nothing else, they have every single type of fast food.
01:12:09.000And you look around and, like, everybody's obese, everyone's unhealthy.
01:12:13.000I mean, when you rattle off, you know, when Bobby Kennedy gave that speech when he threw his support behind Donald Trump, I was watching that with my wife and my mother-in-law, and they both like have tears in their eyes as he's just reading down the stats of how unhealthy we are as a country.
01:12:30.000It's just, you know, man, one thing, and I'm really, really glad that Bobby ran for president this year, and I'm really glad he ended up throwing his support behind Trump, and hopefully he gets a really important position in there.
01:12:43.000But the one thing that I almost felt like You couldn't argue with him that even if you don't blame the same culprits that he blames, which is what they love to say, it's like, How is everyone not talking about this?
01:12:59.000How is this not an issue that every single presidential candidate has to address?
01:13:14.00077%, I think, Bobby said, 73% of all American boys are not eligible for the military.
01:13:25.000So they are unfit to serve because they're either obese or they have a host of these metabolic conditions that have come about from poor diet.
01:14:16.000Eleven health, well, mental health, that's to say substance abuse, education, social and behavior factors, criminal records, U.S. military is facing a recruitment crisis due to these challenges, as well as a lack of interest among young people.
01:14:33.000So it's only 11% is like physically so unhealthy that they can't do it.
01:15:49.000I can't remember what town I was in, but Nicole Shanahan, who I think she's great, and it was really, really interesting.
01:15:58.000I had her on my podcast twice, just really, really smart lady who really knows a lot about this stuff.
01:16:03.000She sent me this video that she posted, and so I'm in a hotel room, And I was there with my buddy Rob Bernstein, who's a co-host of my podcast, Part of the Problem.
01:16:31.000And Nicole Shanahan sends me this video.
01:16:34.000It was like a video that she put out on Twitter.
01:16:37.000I didn't know what it was going to be.
01:16:38.000You know, she just sent me it and I just click on it and play it.
01:16:40.000And it was just about like what her family went through with their kids, you know, like like illnesses and stuff.
01:16:46.000And it's like, And it's the most touching video ever.
01:16:49.000It's so powerful that I sit down and I'm just watching this whole thing and I started crying watching it.
01:16:56.000Kids with health issues really cuts close to the bone for me.
01:17:01.000But as I'm sitting there just like literally sobbing watching this video, it's so emotional.
01:17:06.000And then literally it just dawns on me in the middle of it that I'm supposed to meet my comedian friend in one minute in the lobby to go to this show.
01:17:13.000And I'm just sitting here like, what am I doing?
01:17:15.000I'm sitting in my hotel room crying about these kids.
01:17:17.000But anyway, the point of it is is that like, Hey, look, I don't know enough about this stuff.
01:17:22.000You know, I know about stuff that I know about.
01:17:24.000I don't I don't know enough about this.
01:17:25.000I really should educate myself more on it.
01:17:27.000But if your argument is that like that Bobby and Nicole are blaming the wrong culprits, you know, it's not the vaccines and it's not the Wi-Fi and it's not like, OK, I don't know.
01:17:42.000And why are you not interested in this?
01:17:44.000Why are they the only ones who are talking about this?
01:17:47.000You're telling me we lead the world in chronic illness and that's not something that comes up in any presidential election ever, other than when Bobby Kennedy runs for president?
01:18:20.000Okay, I can understand where if you're talking about very mild autism, okay, like what we used to call Asperger's, Which I guess they don't call it that anymore.
01:18:31.000But if you're talking about mild autism and you want to convince me that that went undiagnosed in the past, I can totally believe that.
01:18:38.000There is no way that moderate or severe autism went undiagnosed.
01:18:42.000It may have not been correctly diagnosed, but you did not not notice that.
01:18:47.000But there's enough of a rise in numbers that it should be a concern for everyone.
01:20:40.000And it reminds me kind of of, you remember when they were trying to push the COVID passports, the vaccine passports, and the logic would just fall apart on its face.
01:20:51.000You're telling me the vaccine is 100% effective.
01:20:53.000You're saying if you take the vaccine, you can't get COVID or spread COVID. And then you're also telling me that the people who are vaccinated in this restaurant need to be protected from the unvaccinated entering this restaurant.
01:21:05.000I'm sorry, I'm not a genius, but I can figure out the logic and that is flawed, okay?
01:21:10.000And in the same sense though, it's like, if you're arguing that all these vaccines are safe and Bobby Kennedy's a kook, then why do they need the liability protection?
01:21:33.000What people who study viruses and vaccines say is you do not vaccinate during a pandemic with a non-sterilizing vaccine.
01:21:43.000So meaning if a vaccine, if you give it to someone and they can still transmit and they can still catch the disease, you're going to cause Right.
01:22:13.000Because you're going to create variants.
01:22:43.000And the quicker we accept that and realize that we're vulnerable to that kind of shit, if we still keep following along the same kind of lines that we're on today, as soon as we realize that, the better off we all are.
01:22:55.000And I think I got here in a kind of similar way to you, which is, I think, a story for, like, millions of Americans, is that I never even thought about this issue.
01:23:06.000Dove into reading a lot about any vaccine until there was this COVID vaccine.
01:23:12.000And then I really dove into it and read a lot about it and found out that you guys were lying through your fucking teeth about the whole goddamn thing and that the whole clinical trials were totally rigged and totally fake.
01:23:48.000And the fact that they were trying to silence legitimate scientists, doctors, professors at major universities for stepping outside the lines.
01:23:56.000They were trying to remove them from Twitter.
01:24:22.000And one of the interesting things about that was, uh, which is, that was a great, still probably one of my all-time favorite JRE episodes, uh, but it was when, you know, when she was, they were, uh, arguing that, like, they don't have a bias.
01:24:35.000And then I think Tim was like, yeah, but you ban people for dead naming or misgendering.
01:24:41.000And she was like, well, yeah, that's hateful.
01:24:44.000And you're like, yeah, but that's a bias.
01:24:47.000And it's one thing when you're just talking about whether we're calling somebody a boy or a girl.
01:24:52.000But then you realize, oh, you have the exact same thing when it actually comes to very important medical information about a product that Americans are being forced to take.
01:25:04.000No matter what you say, they're being forced.
01:25:05.000They're being forced if they want to fly, they're being forced if they want to work in a place that has more than 100 people, if the workplace mandates it, forced if they want to go to a university.
01:25:14.000And they were implementing, in a totally unconstitutional way, they were going to, through OSHA, Through workplace safety, like just the most blatantly unconstitutional proposal,
01:25:30.000that Joe Biden was going to make it the law of the land that every single business with 100 people or more had to have everybody vaccinated.
01:25:38.000And it was only because of Donald Trump's Supreme Court that that got struck down.
01:25:43.000And that's something that people who are paying attention remember.
01:25:54.000Fired from their job, did not lose their livelihood because they refused or were not vaccine injured for a vaccine that they never needed to take.
01:26:01.000I mean, how many people fell into the category that like me and you and so many other people fell into where we got the thing and beat it real quickly before we ever got vaccinated and just didn't need it.
01:26:13.000And then we just didn't make any sense.
01:26:15.000Even even with the information we had about the vaccine back then, which we have a lot more now, but even back Back then, I mean, you looked CNN's doctor right in the eyes, and he goes, well, are you going to get the vaccine?
01:26:27.000You go, no, I just beat COVID. Why would I need to?
01:26:46.000Like, I made a video three days later explaining, and I got in trouble because I took the wrong medication to get better.
01:26:51.000Are you guys out of your fucking mind?
01:26:53.000Like, if you were really worried about people's health and safety, wouldn't you say, hey, what's this 57-year-old guy doing getting over this so easy?
01:30:36.000We're the most war-hungry country in the world.
01:30:38.000Even if we're taking a little bit of a break from a war, we'll fight two more proxy wars while we do that.
01:30:42.000America looks back at the 90s, Bill Clinton as the time of peace and prosperity.
01:30:49.000We call it peace because we only fought a war in, like, Serbia and had a blockade around Iraq and were, like, bombing the crap out of Iraq with a few other military interventions in there, too.
01:31:00.000You know, the UN estimated that Bill Clinton's sanction and bombing regime of Iraq Okay, everyone just thinks of George H.W. Bush's war and W's war, but Bill Clinton was bombing Iraq his whole, and he had a full blockade around the country.
01:31:15.000The UN estimated that 500,000 children died of starvation or malnutrition due to the blockade.
01:31:22.000Now, I've heard people argue, by the way, that that number is exaggerated.
01:31:26.000Maybe it wasn't 500,000, maybe it was only 100,000.
01:31:29.000So that's the time that we consider peace.
01:31:32.000When we were just starving 100,000 children to death in Iraq, and you, everybody in the corporate media, are in the business, every single one of those wars, you've sold them.
01:31:44.000Everyone, my entire life, the media has sold those wars.
01:31:47.000And you're going to morally look down on me?
01:31:56.000You're looking down judging an American because maybe I'm going to vote for Donald Trump or maybe I dare to question the results of the last election.
01:32:06.000And it was a challenge debating him because they were playing the clips, you know, even before they played that clip that Summed him because he had said he didn't say that and then he clearly did.
01:32:16.000But they were just playing the clips of the way they were talking to people during COVID and the pandemic of the unvaccinated and it's you, Mr. Vaccine Skeptic.
01:33:05.000Or maybe that medicine they injected into your body, you got vaccine injured.
01:33:12.000You don't want to say that though, because you still want some sort of a job in corporate media so you have to toe the line.
01:33:17.000You should be very concerned that this novel Before, never mass injected into people.
01:33:25.000Who knows how many different people are going to have different results from some medication, some terrible fucking weird way their biology interacts with this medication.
01:33:35.000It's going to cause a horrible side effect.
01:33:38.000And now you're on ivermectin to treat that.
01:33:56.000Listen, I was at CNN, and I kind of just took for granted that they have the best experts, and so I trusted their experts, and now I realize they were wrong.
01:34:03.000If he had said that, that would have been very hard.
01:34:05.000I still would have been harsh on him, but it would have been a different conversation and a different dynamic.
01:34:09.000What he did was he refused to admit that, and then, and this is really what got me, is that then he started kind of like attacking my motives.
01:34:17.000Like he was like, oh yeah, he goes, I know, you know, this is probably good for your podcast numbers and stuff, but like as if I'm, I don't really believe what I'm saying.
01:35:01.000Because that's a motivation for people that are in that industry.
01:35:05.000If you're in the fucking industry of being a mouthpiece for network news, there's a very narrow window of behavior that you have to operate under.
01:35:45.000To never consider like what I said about them being in the baby murder business because that's, you know, that's pretty rough to think of yourself as that.
01:35:53.000And, you know, I remember this one time I watched a documentary on abortion and it was like a very pro-choice.
01:36:42.000And I remember just watching it and being like, well, yeah, but you better feel that way.
01:36:47.000Because if you even start to entertain the possibility, what does that make you?
01:36:53.000So there's this very powerful social incentive for them to like dig their heels in and not admit that like, oh, the United States of America, the greatest country in the history of the world with more freedom and prosperity and cultivated the greatest economy and the greatest music and literature and just everything.
01:37:14.000Oh, we presided over the bankruptcy, destruction, and the devolving into nothing more than a military-industrial complex, big bank, big pharmaceutical,
01:38:37.000I'm like, Kurt, I'm trying to enjoy this experience of being at the comedy club and Donald Trump's about the way you're hitting me with conspiracy after conspiracy after conspiracy.
01:38:47.000Listen, you get caught on the side of the bar at Mitzi's with Kurt Metzger.
01:39:15.000Also, could you imagine a child, imagine a child, and your child is sobbing because their right to kill a baby inside of them might be taken away.
01:39:41.000Do you explain how they came about, they were in your body, and then they came out, now they're a little tiny person that's like super vulnerable?
01:39:47.000And you want to protect their right to kill a little tiny person inside of them.
01:39:51.000I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to do it, and I'm not a woman.
01:39:54.000I should not have the choice of what a woman can and can't do with her body.
01:39:58.000I would not want a man, if I was a woman, to tell me what the fuck I can do with my body.
01:40:03.000And I think if somehow, and I think it's all connected to religion, and if somehow or another someone decided, and this would be a very minor comparison and not nearly as consequential, but if someone decided that men could no longer get hysterectomies, or excuse me, vasectomies, If men can no longer get vasectomies because of religious reasons,
01:40:21.000because of some Sharia law or whatever the fuck it is, you cannot do that.
01:40:45.000There's talk of doing that with abortion, where in states where it's illegal, women are not going to be allowed to travel in the United States of America, where you're supposed to have freedom, to go to a place where you're going to have a legal medical procedure.
01:40:58.000Whether you agree with it or not, if you're going to believe in states' rights, and you don't think that this is a giant prison where you have to show your ID when you go into Arizona, You should be able to drive around, right?
01:41:37.000I think that if the argument is that abortion is killing a baby, which, like, there is an argument to, then I can understand the argument being, hey, that shouldn't be allowed.
01:41:51.000Now, obviously, I do think there are situations where it's pretty indefensible to force a woman to carry a baby to terms.
01:42:02.000There's a lot of rape incest also health major health issues I mean there are these situations where you find out that there is some you know congenital disease where this this kid is not gonna make it to three years old and I would never dream of like Forcing you know what I mean that decision on parents rather than allowing them to make it there is also Different the vast majority of abortions are not that you know and the vast majority of abortions are Essentially people
01:42:33.000just don't want to have kids right now and that's a little bit that's much tougher to defend than those cases But I will say that one of the things that always like I find striking to me is that because I'm like a radical libertarian and It's very interesting to me that like progressive Democrats all Of a sudden become radical libertarians,
01:43:18.000And it's just interesting that you only apply that to this one area.
01:43:22.000There's not any other area where any progressive Democrat would ever go, you know, if we're talking about Obamacare, we're talking about regulation, we're talking about taxes, they would never go, hey, listen, this is my money, this is my body, this is my choice, the government shouldn't be involved in that.
01:43:39.000And there is something that's very bizarre about that.
01:43:42.000Where it's kind of like maybe with immigration they kind of try to use that an argument to like oh You shouldn't stop a person freedom of movement type thing.
01:43:50.000They don't really do that anymore because it's been such a disaster But it's just very strange to me that it's like oh what you all become radical libertarians like only when it comes to this thing Which is kind of murdering a baby, but then there's the other side that says we're gonna leave it up the states Okay, well if you get rid of Roe v Wade and you leave it up the states and If someone wants to go to another state where it is legal and you want to stop them from doing that or prosecute them when they come back to your state...
01:44:31.000It also just seems, I don't even know what the word, it seems like incoherent or unsustainable to say that if you're not breaking a law in the area where you are, that you could then be held responsible for that when you come back to it.
01:44:46.000Because again, you go to a state where recreational marijuana is legal or where gambling is legal or whatever, the idea that It's like if there's like the speed limit was 80 miles per hour in the town over and then I come back and I get a speeding ticket for driving too fast over there where you're allowed to do that.
01:45:19.000Wade and that's what you did, so now people have to go to a place where it's legal.
01:45:22.000If you're stuck in a state and you don't have the resources but you are pregnant and you want to make a decision for your own body, that's not up to men to decide.
01:45:30.000If you really believe in states' rights and you really believe the United States is one cohesive community, you should be able to travel to do whatever the fuck you want.
01:46:05.000The tracking of what you do in another state where it is legal in that state, that, first of all, just seems unworkable to me.
01:46:11.000I don't see how that's possibly going to happen.
01:46:13.000And then I do feel like that's going to have to go back to the Supreme Court anyway because it's such a precedent that you could be prosecuted for doing something that was legal in the area that you did it.
01:46:27.000Even if I don't like – even if I wasn't a pro-choice person, if I didn't like the idea of abortion, I like less the idea of the government telling you what the fuck you can do and whether or not they can discover what you did in some other state.
01:46:42.000You can't do that and that's what I think a lot of women are fearful of and a lot of that I don't know I don't know how much of a push there is to make something like that happen.
01:46:53.000We tried to find that about Texas the other day.
01:46:56.000There was one case, but we just kept talking.
01:48:23.000A Texas woman who was jailed and charged with murder after self-managing an abortion can move forward with her lawsuit against the local sheriff and prosecutors over the case that drew national outrage before the charges were quickly dropped.
01:48:38.000So U.S. District Judge Drew B. Tipton denied a motion by prosecutors and the sheriff to dismiss the lawsuit during a hearing in the border city of McAllen.
01:48:48.000Lizelle Gonzalez, who spent two nights in jail on the murder charges, is seeking one million dollars in damages in the lawsuit, did not attend the hearing.
01:48:57.000Texas is one of the nation's most restrictive abortion bans and outlaws the procedure with limited exceptions.
01:49:04.000Under Texas law, women seeking an abortion are exempt from criminal charges, however.
01:49:18.000So, Gonzalez was indicted in 2022 after she took the drug misoprostol while 19 weeks pregnant.
01:49:26.000She was treated at Texas Hospital where doctors later performed a cesarean section to deliver a stillborn child after they detected no fetal heartbeat.
01:50:23.000It's like the blue states are still going to have unrestrictive rules about it, so the right-wing people aren't happy, and then the red states are going to be more restrictive, so the left-wingers aren't happy about it.
01:50:36.000It's one of those issues that is enormously complex, and it's very difficult You know, I'm not sure there is like a legal solution to it.
01:50:47.000I think it's a much more of a cultural issue.
01:50:52.000If you were living in a society where, say, it was more similar to my grandfather's society where it was very normal that you married your high school sweetheart.
01:51:02.000It was very normal that people waited till marriage to have sex.
01:51:05.000And it was very typical that you got married at 19 or 20. Well, I'm not saying they did, but I just mean it was much more typical to get married at 19 and be married for 60 years or whatever.
01:51:23.000You know, whereas, like, if you're in, like, a hookup culture world, where most people are, you know, people are getting married at, like, 35 if they get married at all, and they're spending from, like, 17 to 35 being with many different partners.
01:51:45.000But to your initial point, it's like the Dems were running on that because that was really the only political winner that they had.
01:51:52.000That was the only issue that people actually really cared about and they were on the Democrat side about it.
01:51:58.000And that's why they had to run on that.
01:52:00.000That's why Kamala Harris, which was one of the craziest things of this whole campaign, one of the most amazing things, is that they actually tried To just run on nothing.
01:52:08.000One of my favorites was that Tim Walsh tried to claim that his wife got pregnant through in vitro fertilization and she said that's not true.
01:52:38.000Well, see, what happened is, right, so Obama, who was obviously a very, very smart person, Guy and an incredibly talented politician, at least while he was running for president he was.
01:52:55.000So Obama still was a bit of a narcissist, and he wanted to pick Joe Biden as his VP. He didn't want someone who was going to outshine him, and so he picked Joe Biden, who even before he went senile, was never particularly bright.
01:53:09.000So he picked Joe Biden as his VP. And then...
01:53:14.000Joe Biden, well, he wanted some diversity points, and he also wanted someone to not outshine him, because now he was becoming senile, and he was never that bright to begin with.
01:53:24.000So he picks Kamala Harris to be his VP. And then Kamala Harris needs to pick someone who won't outshine her.
01:53:32.000So it's like the idiocracy just spun out of control real quick, where all of a sudden you get to the third VP in a row, and you're like, yo, really?
01:53:44.000You know what's crazy is that this was, in many ways, this presidential election was just so wild and so different from anything I've ever seen in my lifetime.
01:53:54.000You know, I'm 41 and this was different than any other presidential election of my lifetime for sure.
01:53:58.000And I think substantially before that.
01:54:23.000There's a guy who was raised by a single parent who was a drug addict and ended up serving the country, going to an Ivy League school, becoming a venture capitalist, becoming a senator, and can sit and have a conversation with you for three hours and be...
01:54:49.000He could do things that Trump can't do.
01:54:51.000You know, like he could go on a show and really make the case pretty well in a hostile environment.
01:54:57.000He's got a very high verbal IQ, clearly.
01:54:59.000You know, he's a very intelligent guy.
01:55:02.000She picked a VP who can't do anything to help her.
01:55:05.000Who's like the weirdest human being you've ever seen.
01:55:08.000Like, what was the strategy here, guys?
01:55:11.000And they actually, they really just banked on being not Trump.
01:55:15.000They go, you know, all of the things that she ran on four years ago, she walked away from every position and didn't have an answer for any of them.
01:57:02.000Pretty the same four years later where everybody else looks like they've been near a nuclear blast.
01:57:06.000You know what I... Of radiation poisoning.
01:57:08.000Yeah, it's a really, really good point.
01:57:09.000I've always thought there was something about like...
01:57:13.000Just from doing stand-up, if you really try to remember back to your first few months in stand-up comedy, and you remember how daunting getting up in front of people was.
02:01:54.000One of the other things that I do think has been very interesting over the last, really over the last couple years, I guess, and it's really on display with the Trump re-election thing, is that the culture has moved.
02:02:04.000Did you ever see when I talked to Robert Downey Jr. about Tropic Thunder?
02:02:27.000Well, I do think there's some stuff that we look back at now, at like 2017, 2018, like the woke-ism of that era does seem to be like, yeah, things aren't quite as crazy as they were then.
02:02:41.000Or at least there was a little bit of fatigue of it.
02:02:43.000You kind of can't get away with it anymore.
02:02:52.000It's moving towards a better direction for society.
02:02:56.000And it's just a massive overcorrection.
02:02:59.000And then you have hustlers and grifters who get involved in it and amplify the movement, right?
02:03:05.000And all these, like, the Black Lives Matter girls who bought all the real estate.
02:03:08.000There was also some accusation that they bought the house for substantially more Then a person paid for just recently before that, and they have a connection to that person.
02:03:17.000There's some other shenanigans with that.
02:03:21.000It's the communists who are always like, yeah, but I also want to be a millionaire.
02:03:32.000In the election this year, there were like kind of, and woke culture in general, so maybe broader than the election, but there were kind of like three major factors that I think were really interesting.
02:03:42.000One was that I think the anti- For lack of a better term, the kind of anti-woke or non-woke people kind of won out in the marketplace.
02:04:02.000The Tom Brady roast was an example of that.
02:04:04.000Shane Gillis' career was an example of that.
02:04:05.000Tim Dillon's career is an example of that.
02:04:08.000It's just, at a certain point, it's not even that Netflix changed their mind and they're willing to have these guys on because they had some ideological transformation.
02:04:17.000It's just like, I don't know, dude, they're so big.
02:04:21.000This is going to get a ton of views on it.
02:04:23.000And a mix of that and also kind of for the first time, there was like a cost imposed with the Bud Light stuff and the Target stuff.
02:04:31.000There were these kind of very effective boycotts where it's like, oh, you're...
02:04:35.000There's gonna be a cost imposed on you if you do that.
02:04:38.000The second factor with the Trump stuff and why they weren't able to get the shock troops out, and when I say the shock troops, I just mean the left-wing 20-year-old useful idiots who will come out and protest, yes, there's a fascist movement here, right?
02:04:52.000So one of the things that happened, and this is part of why, you know, this is a non-controversial Explanation for 2020 versus 2024 is that in the year 2020, Joe Biden's central pitch to America was a return to normalcy.
02:07:26.000Everything was United States of America, then this Trump guy came in and ruined everything, you know?
02:07:30.000Whereas the reality was always much deeper than that, that like, no, there were these huge problems and that's why a Trump-like figure was so attractive to people.
02:07:39.000But then what happened is Joe Biden came in and nothing went back to normal.
02:07:42.000It got even crazier than it was under Donald Trump.
02:07:45.000So now people were looking back at the first three years of Donald Trump like that seems pretty normal compared to what we've been going through in the Biden administration.
02:07:53.000So this sucked a lot of the energy out.
02:07:55.000And also you didn't have the mystery of Trump.
02:07:57.000He's going to be Adolf Hitler in there.
02:08:08.000He would be the first president ever with no political or military experience.
02:08:12.000And he does seem like a little bit of a wild man.
02:08:14.000But you can't really sell that anymore after he's been president.
02:08:17.000So that kind of took away from the energy.
02:08:20.000And another thing, and I don't know, I'm not saying I'm the only one making this point.
02:08:24.000I haven't heard anyone else making this point, and I think this is a huge part of it, okay?
02:08:29.000Like, a huge part of the reason why you didn't see tens of thousands of young people out protesting Trump at Madison Square Garden, and you only had like 100 people there, is because those young left-wingers, who were reliable shock troops for the regime over the last decade,
02:08:45.000They've been protesting a genocide for the last year.
02:08:49.000They've spent a full year protesting what they consider, and at least the International Court of Justice plausibly considers, a genocide.
02:08:58.000And it's very hard to get someone who's been protesting babies being slaughtered to turn around and pretend that something else is way more of an outrage and especially to then go protest on behalf of the ones who are doing the genocide.
02:09:37.000If you view this as a genocide, which I don't really use that word too often, but I do view it as, like, just horrific...
02:09:44.000And if you view it that way, there's no way that the U.S. isn't implicated.
02:09:47.000This only happens because the U.S. is funding and supporting this.
02:09:52.000And if you want to get those activists to get outraged at something else other than that, when that's obviously the most pressing concern globally.
02:10:34.000This came up a bunch when I was debating Chris Cuomo, but it's like even just the way they talk about you, where it's like, oh, these bro culture guys or something like that.
02:10:52.000What happens on this show is so much more intelligent and thoughtful and deep than anything that's going on at CNN. You just can't tell me.
02:11:01.000You can't tell me that you sitting down with Elon Musk for three hours and then compare that to like Wolf Blitzer with all his graphics behind him talking for 30 seconds before he goes to a pharmaceutical commercial and then coming back and having the dumbest left winger yell at the dumbest right winger.
02:12:58.000The most important thing about Trump winning might be that he's able to stop them from coming after Elon Musk.
02:13:03.000Well, that's a big factor, but I also think that Elon Musk buying Twitter, if that doesn't happen, I don't think Trump wins the way he wins.
02:14:37.000So now, and then he made the other guys look like fools, too.
02:14:40.000So then he gets taken down, and he went from being a guy who was very much shaping the national conversation to being just removed from it.
02:15:25.000Because my kids were getting little videos off of TikTok.
02:15:28.000This was before he got in, like, real trouble, when he was just starting to, like, the manosphere and a bunch of young guys resonating with it.
02:15:34.000She goes, what do you think about him?
02:15:35.000And I said, well, he's a legit kickboxer.
02:15:55.000Well, the thing that I found so interesting was just, and it happened with him, a great example is Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and then even the thing we were just saying about our boy Schultz.
02:16:09.000It's like these cancellation attempts, all of a sudden they went from like, oh my god, this could ruin you, to like it's making you stronger.
02:16:16.000Did you see when Tony went on stage last night?
02:16:50.000That's the best thing in comedy, by the way.
02:16:52.000The best thing in comedy is when there's a huge thing, and there's just something about when they got new, fresh stuff on the thing that just happened.
02:17:02.000Oh, it's my, like my N-word compilation joke.
02:17:05.000Dude, I remember literally one of my favorite, like if I had to put a flag down on like five of my favorite moments since I've been in comedy, that show that we did at, what's it called?
02:18:16.000And then just all of a sudden my phone started blowing up.
02:18:19.000Like text, text, text, text, text, all this.
02:18:21.000And I was like, what the fuck happened here?
02:18:22.000And then I pulled the video and was like, oh shit.
02:18:24.000And then that show, whatever the early show on that day, man.
02:18:29.000If people were there, it was just the most fun.
02:18:32.000It's the most fun part of stand-up where you're almost just like, you go like, well, forget what I thought we were going to be talking about today.
02:18:38.000Because now we're going in a whole new direction.
02:18:40.000What am I going to go up there and not talk about this for a half hour?
02:19:13.000You don't get a whole lot of moments like that where the president almost gets fucking iced.
02:19:17.000And then all the nutty people trying to say he staged his assassination attempt so that he could regain the White House, that it was a propaganda attempt.
02:19:25.000Those are the nuttiest of left-wing people.
02:20:22.000So he's got Costco with a whole full cart of stuff and there's a dude who's with him who's wearing gloves and a mask and sunglasses and a hoodie.
02:20:49.000So you have Crook's dad, and his dad is pushing this shopping cart, and you've got this dude who's with him, who's, like, in full disguise with gloves.
02:21:56.000Obviously, the guy doesn't want people to know who he is, because he's with the father of the guy who tried to kill the fucking president.
02:22:01.000Well, the fact that somebody could be able to get up on that roof with a rifle 130 yards away from the president, and then the excuses that they made made absolutely no sense.
02:22:13.000In a sense, it was too sloped of a roof.
02:22:15.000No, the lady didn't want to step down.
02:22:22.000You've got a guy who has a felony conviction for possession of weapons of mass destruction, where he barricaded himself while police were pursuing him with, like, explosives or something.
02:22:49.000Yeah, you know, I don't know exactly what they were but I know that was the charge and it was a felony and then this motherfucker is recruiting for the Ukrainian war effort and is going back and forth to an active war zone trying to recruit Afghan fighters to fight in the war on the Ukrainian side and then he comes back and tries to assassinate Donald Trump and then the entire national conversation is like Is the rhetoric about Donald Trump too far?
02:23:18.000And you're like, listen man, I'm not saying it's not plausible that if you call the guy Hitler every day, maybe some deranged young person will be like, I'm going to take out Hitler.
02:23:28.000But when this guy is going and recruiting for the Ukrainian war effort, this doesn't sound to me like someone radicalized by Joy Reid.
02:23:54.000So, like, if his son knew anything about what was going on, no one's gonna listen to him now.
02:23:59.000The fucking guy's jerking off to kids fucking.
02:24:00.000It's just, look, at the very least, it's very bizarre.
02:24:03.000And when you have a guy, you know, like, I'm not saying I've got, like, a case I could present in front of a jury and get a conviction, but when you've got a guy who has been targeted by the regime unlike any other political figure in American history, well, let's say since Kennedy, But more so,
02:24:18.000because he just survived an assassination.
02:26:11.000I think there was a lot of gayness back then, and, you know, I based this on ancient cultures, like Afghanistan, all the gay shit they do.
02:26:18.000Well, you also got to think, like, if you're in a world without, like, plumbing and toothbrushes and razors, fucking a man or fucking a woman, not that much different.
02:26:31.000Not a whole lot different at that point, dude.
02:26:49.000Well, it's one of the things that I think we've kind of found out with the trans stuff over the last few years, is that it's like, there are...
02:27:01.000There are cultural norms that you can set up where people will do a lot of stuff that you might consider to be very bizarre.
02:27:08.000And it's very easy when you don't have those cultural parameters to be like, no one would do that just because you made it acceptable.
02:28:25.000So some girls get up and they walk out because they're very uncomfortable with like, oh my god, these rape jokes are not funny, blah, blah, blah.
02:28:31.000Then the girl leaves, gets raped, Turns out it was the rape comic who rapes her.
02:28:53.000And it's always just, like, the threat of, like, we will put you in a rape torture dungeon if you don't do X, Y, and Z. And I thought it was, like, a really brilliant point that that's just totally acceptable.
02:30:05.000Yeah, but when you have a culture that says men can't have sex with women except to procreate, and the women have to be dressed up in a certain way and Not good.
02:30:54.000They're all dressed in skirts, and they're all told that all those desires that they have, their bodies going through puberty, and they're just horny all the time, that they're bad.
02:31:02.000And then they can't wait to get along with a guy like that.
02:33:04.000So is it one of those things they thought did that?
02:33:08.000Symptoms can range from double vision and difficulty in swallowing to paralysis and death.
02:33:13.000The spores of this organism lurk in many foods under the right conditions—lack of oxygen, low acidity—becomes active and liberate their toxin.
02:33:21.000Sausages are the classic example of a type of food that can be affected.
02:33:25.000And the word botulism, in fact, derives from the Latin botulus, meaning sausage.
02:34:17.000Botulism can be prevented by the appropriate use of sodium nitrate.
02:34:21.000Discovery that actually became about in an accidental fashion.
02:34:24.000Salting of meat is an ancient method of preservation based on the ability of sodium chloride to kill bacteria by drawing out much of their water content.
02:34:31.000About 500 years ago, some clever cook noted that the effectiveness of salt in preserving meat depends upon its source.
02:34:37.000Furthermore, salt that worked particularly well improved the meat's flavor and color.
02:34:42.000Okay, the secret turned out to be an impurity potassium nitrate, more familiar known as saltpeter.
02:34:47.000Okay, so this is how they came up with it to combat botulism.
02:34:53.000Okay, now what about how does saltpeter work?
02:36:10.000Some are camps as well as men in the military in prison.
02:36:13.000Some boys or men use this as an excuse for sexual performance problems.
02:36:17.000Doctors and pharmacists have debunked the myth about Saltpeter.
02:36:20.000Lowering the libido, prostate, or sex drive is false.
02:36:23.000Even if some ignorant random prison did this to a group of inmates, they've proven it would not have the negative effects people keep saying it does.
02:36:31.000But that doesn't prove that they didn't do it.
02:37:58.000I was trying to read through this fast so I could give you a quick answer.
02:38:01.000There is a job, and it says in Sweden, I had to transfer this, saltpeter welder profession whose task consists of collecting urine-soaked earth in order to make more saltpeter because they used it in ammunition.
02:38:24.000Yeah, you'd piss on the ground into the soil, and then they'd get enough of that stuff together finally, and then you could make some gunpowder out of it.
02:38:32.000How much experimentation did it take to figure out that, like, no, listen, dude, if I piss on the ground, I could make gunpowder.
02:38:40.000You'd be like, how'd you figure that out?
02:38:41.000You're like, listen, dude, it's a long story, all right?
02:38:43.000I was doing a lot of stuff this weekend.
02:38:57.000All peasants, the priests made sure that no one was forgotten, were forced to deliver their imposed quota of saltpeter soil, along with ash, wood, and coal, to the nearest simmering plant.
02:39:10.000The obligation was replaced in 1634 by a saltpeter tax.
02:39:17.000Now, instead, came to collect the soil themselves from under the farmers' barns.
02:39:23.000The saltpeter tax was replaced in 1801 by an obligation for each mantle to annually supply one half, what does that say, LI pound of saltpeter to the state?
02:40:59.000I don't want to live in the time where I got pissed on the dirt to make gunpowder.
02:41:03.000Well, by the way, people are going to be saying that in the future about this time.
02:41:06.000God, thank God we didn't live in the time where the whole country was at war over the stupidest shit and controlled by this media that was completely controlled by corporations and everybody was being gaslit and people willingly gaslit themselves.
02:41:19.000I've always felt the one, you know, if you could try to guess, like, just say if we survive and things improve morally, like, what we would look back on and be like, holy shit.
02:41:31.000And the two to me was always war and prison.
02:41:36.000And especially, like, non-violent, you know, like, prisoners.
02:41:39.000But even violent prisoners, you'd almost think, like, What, they didn't figure anything else out?
02:42:00.000So you have private prisons that are actually a corporation that lobby to make sure that certain laws stay on the books so that you could keep your prison stocked with live people that are essentially batteries that generate money for you?
02:42:14.000And just the fact that that's still going on while...
02:42:19.000We have all of these technological advancements.
02:42:23.000If you go down to St. Jude's or something like that, and they're like, dude, they have all of this technology because all of these brilliant people are here to save babies' lives.
02:43:16.000And maybe we are, like, moving in that direction where, you know, it does seem, for sure, I think that the fact that the war in Gaza has had more images Come out of it than any other conflict.
02:43:30.000That's a huge part of the reason why there's so much protest against it.
02:43:34.000Right, the advent of technology that's everywhere.
02:43:37.000I think me and you might have talked about that last time I was on, right?
02:43:40.000But it's like, even the war in Iraq, which is not ancient history, you know, it was still going on.
02:43:45.000I mean, secondly, we still got troops there now.
02:43:47.000But like the video footage that would come out would be like, you know, it almost looked like a firework, like kind of exploding, which is, that's easy to see and root for.
02:44:39.000The objective reality is blown apart children, and not just one, like tens of thousands of innocent people dead.
02:44:47.000I was just watching this interview, I'm blanking on the doctor's name, but it was Dave DeCamp was interviewing him, who's, by the way, phenomenal, one of the best reporters in the country.
02:45:00.000DeCamp Dave, D-E-C-A-M-P, Dave is his Twitter handle, he's phenomenal.
02:45:05.000I'll follow him right now, how about that?
02:45:23.000It's provokedbook.com, the best book written on the history of the Ukraine-Russia conflict and How America just blew it at every single opportunity.
02:45:34.000Anyway, so Dave DeCamp is interviewing this guy who's a doctor.
02:45:39.000He's an American who went over to Gaza.
02:45:42.000And there was a big piece in the New York Times written about this where he said that every day that he was there, every single day, they'd treat toddlers with bullets to the head.
02:45:54.000That they were just constantly seeing this.
02:45:55.000And then he says that he also talked to a whole bunch of other, so his working theory on this was, when he first started seeing this, so he's in this one area in Gaza, and he was embedded there for a few months working at a hospital, and he figured there was like some lone,
02:46:15.000But then he started talking to doctors from all other points of Gaza who were there at all different times who all said the same thing, that they're getting toddlers with bullet wounds.
02:46:23.000And then, when the New York Times published this, a bunch of people who were defending Israel started being like, this isn't true, blah, blah, blah, the Israeli most moral fighting force in the world.
02:47:24.000It lets you know it's like, oh, so I get it.
02:47:27.000You see, it's like, oh, how did human beings through all of human history have had slavery and And genocides and ethnic cleansing campaigns and at every step there's someone there who's willing to justify it and explain why we have to do this because this is the only way and really we're acting in defense.
02:47:48.000But again, we're gonna look back on this time.
02:47:51.000The way people look back on concentration camps, the way people look back on the Mongol campaign, the way people look back on the Inquisition.
02:48:09.000Like, it could just be like, hey, there's somebody who could be a totally loving dad and a good husband and all like that, but then can go to war and commit like...
02:48:20.000It's just like they put that over here.
02:48:22.000It's very hard to think about that or understand it.
02:48:27.000Unless you talk to someone who's done it.
02:48:31.000This is one of the most important things, the messages that I want to get to Trump.
02:48:37.000And one of the things that I'm excited that Bobby Kennedy is interested in this as well is psychedelic therapy for veterans.
02:48:46.000I think if there's a way to understand the benefits of psychedelic therapy for everybody, the real pathway is through veterans who I think are the most needing of it, the most deserving of it, the most...
02:48:58.000The most neglected in terms of the horrors that they experience and having to carry this around their mind and that there's a way that many people have experienced relief and it's not available to them.
02:49:12.000And it's not something that's dangerous.
02:49:28.000All of it became illegal in the sweeping Psychedelics Act of 1970 that was designed by the Nixon administration so that they could demonize anti-war protesters.
02:49:39.000So they could arrest anti-war protesters, civil rights protesters, the Black Panthers.
02:49:44.000They made all that stuff illegal because all these counterculture people were all using that to completely change the programming that they received in society.
02:49:55.000Like the deep, deep irony that they made this stuff illegal because they thought if it was out there, they wouldn't be able to get their wars.
02:50:03.000So they make it illegal and they get their wars.
02:50:05.000And then it turns out that this is the thing that helps the people that are traumatized coming back from war.
02:50:10.000But you can't have it because it's illegal.
02:50:12.000Well, it's the clearest shift in culture.
02:50:28.000They see their friends killed, and then they come back here and there's no tools, when there are tools.
02:50:32.000But they have to go to Mexico to utilize these tools.
02:50:34.000They have to go to Costa Rica and the Amazon.
02:50:37.000They have to go to all these different places because it's illegal in the very place that sent them over there.
02:50:42.000The very place that tells them it's legal for you to go kill people that you've never met, but it's not legal for you to take psilocybin that might help you get over the fact that you killed people.
02:50:52.000I know my buddy Michael Heiss, he just started a media company called Dissident Media.
02:51:11.000We need to, at this moment in time especially, and I've seen a lot of people saying we have to just accept the results, which I think is wonderful.
02:51:18.000We do have to accept the results, but also we have to remember that we are one team.
02:51:23.000This is Team USA, and there's plenty of room for everybody.
02:53:25.000The entire Grateful Dead catalog, it's all psychedelically inspired.
02:53:28.000And you almost have to be on psychedelics to appreciate them.
02:53:33.000That all was squashed by this desire to...
02:53:37.000Stop people from protesting and a horrible unjust war.
02:53:41.000Yeah, and look man I mean that I think that's a great message to get to Trump like let these guys like they were they were like the bravest amongst us who got totally tricked and bribed and Propagandized into going to these wars and then they come back and they're blowing their brains out by the tens of thousands Yeah,
02:53:58.000and there's something that might help.
02:54:00.000Yeah, that is very low risk of of Almost no risk of actually hurting, and it really might help.
02:54:14.000And look, I will say, this is one of the things that I'm really optimistic about, is that of that team that we were talking about earlier that Donald Trump's got around him, you know, all those people like Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy and J.D. Vance and Tucker Carlson and all these guys,
02:54:39.000Like, they're all just like, yeah, no, this makes no sense.
02:54:42.000This is such a clear-cut situation where you could easily make a deal.
02:54:46.000Vladimir Putin, and I know I've talked about this on past shows, and anybody, go listen to those and go read Scott Horton's amazing book, Provoked, but just very quickly, It is all but accepted at this point.
02:54:59.000When I first came on the first podcast that we talked about Ukraine, a few years ago now, when I said, oh, there was a peace deal that was agreed to in principle by Ukraine and Russia, and then Boris Johnson came in on behalf of the U.S. to make sure they didn't negotiate a peace and kept the war going,
02:55:18.000there were a bunch of people who were like, oh, that's not true, and blah, blah, blah.
02:55:22.000And now it's just been totally, like, Like, 100% I was right about that.
02:55:27.000And then since then, the guy whose name I always butcher, but it's Norwegian, so I don't know how to, Strasselberger, the head of NATO, he came out and said, and he was bragging, but he goes, you know, Vladimir Putin, before he invaded Ukraine,
02:55:43.000told us that if we just put it in writing that we would not bring Ukraine into NATO, that he wouldn't invade.
02:55:49.000And we told him, no, because we won't be bullied by you.
02:55:54.000So he's like bragging about how they had an opportunity.
02:55:56.000All they had to do was say, we will not bring your biggest neighbor into our military alliance, which is very clearly against you.
02:57:02.000And he's got people like Vivek Ramaswamy and Tucker Carlson who really are non-interventionists and don't want to see American taxpayer dollars being used to fund wars around the world, no matter who it's for.
02:57:22.000Miriam Adelson, who cut him $100 million and is probably going to give another $100 or $200 million to congressional candidates in the next midterm election and all of this.
02:57:32.000And she is singularly focused on one issue.
02:57:35.000And that issue is that we always unconditionally and unwaveringly support Israel, no matter what they're doing.