On this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the podcaster and podcaster joins me to talk about the results of the 2020 election and why he thinks the economy is going to be a disaster. We also talk about why we should all be worried about what s going to happen to the economy in the future and why it s a good thing that we re all going to end up having to go to college to get a driver s license. And we talk about how much better we are now that we ve got a job and are able to pay for our cars and other basic needs. And we have a special guest on the pod this week, who happens to be my good friend and former college roommate, Jamie. We talk about what it s like to be in college and what it's like being a college freshman and how to deal with the pressures of being a millennial in the 21st century. And, of course, we talk a lot about the economy and how it s not so great right now, but it s gonna get better in 2020. I hope you enjoy this episode and tweet me if you liked it! with your thoughts on the election and what you think of it. Timestamps: 8:00 - What was your favorite moment of the election? 9:30 - What's the worst thing you saw on election night? 11:15 - How did you feel about it? 16:00:00 17:20 - What do you think about the future of the economy? 18:00 | What's your favorite part of the country? 19: What are you looking forward to in 2020? 21:30 | What s the worst part of your life right now? 22:40 - What s your biggest takeaway from the election day? 25:30 26:40 27:10 - How do you're going to do next? 29:40 | What would you like to see the future? 32:00 / 32:30 // 33:10 35:00 // 35:10 | What are your biggest takeaways from this episode? 36:00 & 35: Is it a good place to start the next episode of the podcast? 37: What's a better place? 39:00 + 40:00/36:00? 41:00 Is it better than the economy better than this? 40:20
00:03:08.000You have massive populations of people, right?
00:03:11.000And you – when you have massive populations of people, a lot of times it's based around universities.
00:03:17.000Like Los Angeles is slightly different because Los Angeles has universities but really it's like more around Hollywood which is equally delusional.
00:03:25.000But most big cities are flavored by a university.
00:03:30.000Like Austin is flavored by the University of Texas.
00:03:50.000A higher percentage of Democrats voted for Kamala Harris than even Los Angeles.
00:03:55.000Well, I think a lot—it seems like a lot of Democrats—I don't know a ton about politics, but it seems like a lot of Democrats—I understand a lot of the voting because it's hopeful voting.
00:05:12.000This administration did that I think is terrible, and this is a progressive liberal thing, is that you have these DAs, these George Soros-funded DAs that just let people out for violent crime.
00:06:26.000You can't, like, if you have a kid or whatever, you can't do it.
00:06:31.000Like, if you're just fishing on the bank, you can have your kid and you can be sitting there smoking or whatever your kid likes to do, you know?
00:06:36.000But if you're in that, you have to constantly be moving it, you know?
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00:13:31.000I was getting a different number off my Apple News update than I was getting off of CNN, and then I was texting people, like Tulsi and JD Vance.
00:14:01.000I'm gonna go back into my pod and evaporate.
00:14:04.000I don't know what he's getting, where he's pulling his data from, but he had like the most accurate data in terms of the rural states hadn't put their results in yet, but yet Trump was ahead in these states.
00:14:16.000Kamala's never gonna win those states.
00:14:18.000So tabulated that and put it all together.
00:15:18.000You know, it's like I know him, you know, like a friend.
00:15:20.000And so that's, I think, like, that was something I was, like, super excited about, just to see where everybody was like, screw this guy, you know?
00:15:30.000And to see him have an arc where it's like, because all he ever cared about, to me, and I don't know, this is just my opinions, dude.
00:15:37.000Some people, everybody has their own opinions, and I'm an idiot, but...
00:15:42.000But he always cared about the rivers and the environment.
00:15:48.000And then he started to care about the environment inside of our bodies.
00:16:38.000That's like, I mean, we talked about this yesterday, but it's like, Holocaust denier is number one, but vaccine denier and election denier are, like, right under there.
00:17:04.000And so then he starts doing research on it.
00:17:05.000And the more he does research on it, the more it gets uncovered that there's this gigantic machine that's protecting all of this because there's so much money that's being generated.
00:17:14.000And most of it has to do with during the Reagan administration, they gave them immunity to prosecution.
00:17:21.000So they were no longer liable for whatever side effects the vaccines caused.
00:18:49.000We were talking about the amount of death that most police officers see and the stress that has on you.
00:18:56.000And what he was telling me is you take, like, a cop that has, like, 20 years in the job, what they see is probably 10x what the average soldier who's deployed sees.
00:21:06.000Now he has to go he has to go he has to console the mother then go inside of the home He walks inside the door won't open because the man's body is there, right?
00:21:18.000It's he's having trouble getting it open even just that moment He gets it open Something falls off of the ceiling down the back of his shirt and it's part of the guy His brain matter he had shot himself on the ceiling So I know that's graphic and stuff,
00:21:35.000but and then for the next three or four hours, he has to take care of this scene with this little feeling between his bat wings or whatever that, what is that?
00:23:43.000I think a lot of cops will start making albums from their cars.
00:23:49.000Bro, there really should be a great producer that goes on a ride along with a police officer, this is going to happen, watch, and makes a dope track with a cop.
00:26:25.000It was the red wave that everybody thought was going to happen in 2022. Hey, Jamie, I'm hearing more and more about what we talked about yesterday, about the amount of people that voted for Biden in 2020. Versus the amount of people that voted for anybody in 2016 and for anybody in 2024. That they're still saying it was a giant jump.
00:26:51.000There's a lot of people that are getting super suspicious about the 2020 numbers because Biden got more votes than anybody by like 20 million.
00:27:00.000It's really crazy if you look at the chart.
00:27:04.000Yeah, did they say that the most people they'd ever seen at voting stations were this year?
00:27:38.000And we're all victim of it a little bit.
00:27:42.000Because you won't defend him or support him if you hear all these things about him because then you got to defend the fact that no, he didn't really do that.
00:28:03.00061% cast ballots, near 6% drop from the 2020 presidential race.
00:28:09.000But the difference in the numbers nationwide is what I'm interested in, because the nationwide numbers, they're pretty consistent, like through the entire, like if you look at 2012, it's consistent with 2016,
00:28:24.000which is also consistent with 2024. The anomaly is 2020. Everything goes way up.
00:30:20.000My brother, actually, my brother's a lot smarter than me, and he said, hey, man, I just want you to think that there could be some reflection from people if you have him on, right?
00:30:33.000Like, you could—some people could be upset about it, you know?
00:30:38.000And I thought about that a little bit, and I was like, well, I don't really— Like, I don't know, you know, like, I have political thoughts and beliefs and stuff like that, and it's like, it's hard to find a group that really embodies them.
00:30:51.000And if anything, right now, for me, it seems like I don't even feel like these new parties are the same as the old parties.
00:31:35.000So I was like, well, that's interesting to me, you know?
00:31:39.000And I wish that people, I wonder if there's more to Donald Trump.
00:31:42.000Like, is there more of a way to talk with him about something that means, you know, try to get an emotional well, like more of an emotional well to him than it seems like that's in the public.
00:31:53.000Well, there was a thing that was going on for a while where you were platforming people.
00:34:12.000The environment of debates, the environment of interviews on television, the environment of anything you're doing in front of an audience, it's so fake.
00:34:20.000It's such a weird way to talk that you don't get a sense of who the person is.
00:34:24.000So, like, when I got to see Trump on your podcast and you were talking about dual cocaine, then it makes you like an owl.
00:34:35.000It was hilarious, but it was like, you got a chance to see that guy as a person trying to figure out, like, who is this psycho I'm sitting here talking to?
00:35:00.000You talking to him as a person is almost more valuable than any other kind of speeches he does.
00:35:09.000Because when he's in front of everybody talking about, we're going to make America amazing, those are great speeches.
00:35:14.000But you don't, like, she had an amazing speech.
00:35:17.000When I was like, she could win, was when she had that one speech about Donald Trump, like, scared to debate her, but he says all these things.
00:39:43.000They're all dressed up nice with fancy hats.
00:39:45.000First of all, good luck seeing anything outside the Republican National Convention with that many people on the streets dressed up in suits.
00:44:14.000Imagine if you're, like, face down, if someone's putting you in a rear naked choke, and they didn't clean the mats that good, and the person before shit all over the place.
00:44:21.000You get pink eye while you're getting your ass kicked.
00:45:57.000But by the sixth quarter or whatever, I don't know how many, how the fights go, but it's like, by the sixth quarter, he's just rubbing on his thighs, right?
00:46:57.000And I'm trying to bring back the church of what's happening now.
00:47:00.000Because him and Lee Syatt, they were together when they were at the club together, and I'm like, come on, let's get the band back together.
00:47:05.000You guys together were fucking amazing.
00:49:45.000He was so nervous, because here's what was going to happen.
00:49:48.000If he lost, you know, so the way these news organizations work, they have outlines for stories.
00:49:55.000If Kamala wins, they have outlines for stories if Trump wins.
00:50:00.000If Trump lost, they were going to blame it on Tony.
00:50:04.000They had stories where they're gonna blame it on that joke and they were gonna say that that joke turned the tides and made people realize the Trump organizations filled with Nazis and racists and And they were gonna blame Tony and Tony would have been fucked because then the Trump supporters would have thought that too, right?
00:50:19.000So it was like both sides would have disliked Tony Absolutely, absolutely He would have to go to Puerto Rico or Costa Rica.
00:59:33.000Well, it's just crazy how, like, on mainstream stuff, if you share anything one way, it's okay, but you share something another way, it's not okay.
01:01:20.000I'm trying to think of what I've seen recently.
01:01:22.000If you're a big giant dude, and you're a big muscle-bound giant dude, and you want to do serious roles, you kind of got to lose some weight.
01:01:29.000And you kind of got to support Kamala Harris.
01:04:05.000Well, some people that work in Hollywood, I'm sure, don't like white men, but that's the thing about woke culture.
01:04:12.000It's like there's a hierarchy of the injustices that you have faced.
01:04:16.000White men, even if it's not you, which is where it gets prejudiced, because if it's not you, white men over history have caused the most grief.
01:05:31.000And this is also one of the things that people are terrified about with this border deal, okay?
01:05:36.000Because one of the things about the border, it's not as simple as people coming over and they want a better life, of course, but it's also people being exploited.
01:05:45.000And there's tens of thousands of kids that are missing.
01:05:48.000Who knows if they've been smuggled into child trafficking.
01:05:53.000Who knows how many people have been...
01:07:50.000It seems like unless they paid those people an exorbitant amount of money, I don't know.
01:07:54.000I mean, I don't know what the arrangement was.
01:07:56.000But they put a fence around the area, they brought people in a giant ship, and then they put them back on the ship and shipped them back to China.
01:08:43.000Proposed amendment to California's constitution would bar slavery in any form and repeal a current provision allowing involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime.
01:08:52.000Because a lot of them gay producers trying to trank out them twinks, homie, that's why, bro.
01:15:17.000It's like, I want to control how I feel.
01:15:19.000So even if how I feel isn't great, there's a weird juxtaposition where it's like, if I have control over it, then that's...
01:15:29.000It's almost like you're the devil that's trying to kill you, you know, make any sense?
01:15:33.000So if you have control like so you have anxiety and you're worried about things and so in order to Kind of mitigate that you do a little bit of damage to yourself.
01:15:43.000So you have control over the damage Yeah, there's something about having control about how you feel so even if you feel damaged you still did it to yourself.
01:17:11.000We knew there was a place we could go where we could find like-minded people and have a laugh.
01:17:17.000On a regular basis, which is like, we're so fortunate.
01:17:21.000Most people don't have a place where they can go, where they're guaranteed to see people that they love, and you're gonna have a good time, and just be silly with each other.
01:17:30.000And then you're watching all these sets, everybody's going on stage with that energy, and so there's all this killing in the air.
01:19:08.000You get a chance to communicate with people that are, you know, really interesting, unique people that have lived completely different lives than you.
01:19:17.000Like, I had Brian Cox on the other day explaining the universe to me.
01:19:23.000It's, like, so exciting to get this guy's just, like...
01:19:28.000Super intelligent person who's also a really good communicator could break down the fabric of the universe for you and what we know about it.
01:19:35.000I mean like when does anybody ever get that opportunity to sit down and talk to someone like that for three hours?
01:23:56.000The kind of racism that people faced before the race riots and all that was horrific because it's just a hundred years removed from slavery ending.
01:24:14.000And so, black people were heavily discriminated against, gay people were heavily discriminated against.
01:24:20.000People recognize that that's wrong, young people go to universities, they get taught that it's wrong, they recognize the sins of the past, and then they overcorrect.
01:24:30.000And by overcorrecting, now you favor people that you think have been previously marginalized.
01:24:37.000So you give people, like Vivek calls it the tyranny of the oppressed.
01:24:41.000So the oppressed, the previously oppressed, now have a social hierarchy.
01:25:29.000And gay people, because gay people have been previously oppressed, gay people weren't even allowed.
01:25:34.000Even in 2013, up to then, Hillary Clinton and Obama both said that marriage should be between a man and a woman.
01:25:45.000We have to realize that this was like 11 fucking years ago.
01:25:48.000That was their political talking points.
01:25:50.000Marriage should be between a man and woman.
01:25:52.000So now, kids realize how stupid that is.
01:25:56.000Young kids generally have a much better sense of the errors of the past than we do.
01:26:02.000Unless we're paying attention as we get older, we pay more attention to what's going on before.
01:26:05.000But now kids immediately are aware of how fucked up How colonial society has been, how they've conquered North America, killed the indigenous people.
01:26:15.000So they want to, like, re-correct things.
01:26:41.000But you'd have to figure out who owned it at that time and give it back to them, and then you would have to let all those other people try to kill them and get it back.
01:26:51.000Because if you want to go back to the old ways, that's the old ways.
01:26:53.000You want to go back to when the Comanche ran Texas.
01:27:57.000This was a gigantic- You got to tickle a dreamcatcher to get the truth.
01:28:01.000This was really like, in some ways, other than the violence, it was like a utopian existence.
01:28:09.000These people followed the buffalo around, ate every part of it, used their skins to make their houses, traveled on horseback, following them around.
01:29:07.000It was like there was an understanding that if you saw somebody and they had horses or they had these, you're going to go kill them and take that thing from them.
01:29:13.000And if you knew that there was a camp and the camp was over the top of the ridge and they would be in bed at night, you would come in the middle of the night and slaughter everybody.
01:30:49.000I mean probably if you lived back then that would have been the thing to do because you would have been bored.
01:30:53.000But you're in the- it's early morning, couple guys show up.
01:30:56.000You would want to try to see what it looks like to go across the ocean.
01:30:59.000If you're a young man and you just needed something in your life and you knew the dudes did it and you just eat beef jerky for three months and you make it across the ocean and when you get to the other side there's gold everywhere.
01:31:10.000They didn't even know where they were.
01:32:28.000But along the way, the consistent thing is war.
01:32:31.000It's constantly happening from the beginning of time, as early as we know, tribes were battling other tribes.
01:32:38.000And back then, when there wasn't that many people, wasn't that many resources, and you were competing to see whose genes spread, it's just natural.
01:32:45.000You develop tools and weapons, and then that's ingrained in our fucking DNA. So here we are in 2024 with iPhone 16s and Starlink, and we're still locked into this tribal war mindset because that's how humans evolved.
01:33:00.000And that's the scariest thing about being alive today, is that we're so advanced, we're so much more civilized than at any other point in human history, and yet, same amount of people, if not more, are dying senselessly all the time.
01:33:14.000Right, like we're civilized on the outside, but there's a part of us that will always be uncivilized?
01:33:19.000Yeah, well, the part of it is war, right?
01:33:21.000And other parts of the world are not as calm as us.
01:33:24.000You know, there's parts of the world that are very fucking dangerous.
01:37:46.000I think the craziest thing is, I think if you, the first gay dude must have been like, what's going on, you know?
01:37:53.000Like he's sitting there with his wife or whatever and his buddy comes over to like, you know, to just look around or whatever because they didn't have that much stuff back then.
01:38:00.000And his buddy comes over just to like look around or tell him about like an animal he saw or something and he just starts thinking, man, I'm gonna fucking...
01:39:36.000But I think their thought was that the same gene that made women really promiscuous, they wanted a bunch of different sexual partners, that it might be actually a gene thing.
01:39:48.000See, the Gene thing is weird, man, because Brett Weinstein explained this to me.
01:39:52.000He said, do you know the difference between a beautiful woman and a woman who's hot?
01:40:05.000Like, a woman who's wearing very skimpy clothes and looks like she's really made up.
01:40:11.000The idea that that's attractive is that you could potentially spread your genes quickly without having any consequences.
01:40:22.000So this person, you wouldn't have to have a relationship with that person, but it would give you an opportunity to spread your genes, like as primates.
01:40:52.000If you have more kids, it means you like dick.
01:40:55.000I think they were talking about promiscuity, though.
01:41:01.000However, a study published by the Journal of Sexual Medicine found a correlation between gay men and their mothers and maternal aunts who are prone to have significantly more children compared to the maternal relatives of straight men.
01:41:13.000I think we need more gay men in some of these areas.
01:41:18.000That would make sense, like, in terms of, like, natural selection.
01:41:22.000Because if you're someone who's, like, over having kids, you have too many kids, you have, like, ten children, I would see how nature would be like, you know what, we don't need to spread these genes as much, let's make a couple of these gay.
01:43:30.000I mean, all these folks that are coming over here for jobs, there's a lot of those jobs that are going to be taken by, like, unskilled labor jobs are all going to be robots soon.
01:43:39.000But don't you think at a certain point that we shouldn't have that?
01:43:42.000Like at a certain point, shouldn't AI, if it doesn't help us be human, that at a certain point we should stop it?
01:47:12.000If you have a distance like that much, where a guy can hit you and you can't hit him, you have to cross that and you're so vulnerable while crossing that.
01:47:21.000And if a guy's a good counter striker and he's active and he's long, They're so, so hard to get in on.
01:47:27.000So a guy like John, that's always going to be an advantage.
01:47:31.000And then with John, if you do get in on him, that's no picnic because he's an elite grappler.
01:48:05.000If you want to say who dominated his division longer than anybody, who beat everybody that was ever any good in his division, and who never lost, that's Jon Jones.
01:48:15.000The only time you could say he had a controversial decision was the Dominic Reyes fight.
01:48:21.000It was Dominic Reyes was coming up, he was in his prime, it was a really good fight.
01:48:52.000I say, you know, if you had to only pick one, I would pick John.
01:48:57.000But I don't like only picking one because there's a bunch of reasons why other guys are in this elite class of being considered as possibly the greatest of all time.
01:49:58.000He did it in an MMA championship fight where he was dominating the fight.
01:50:02.000Yeah, it's crazy how many of those guys are like Hollywood stuntmen, you know?
01:50:06.000And then you also gotta, like, if you just look on record, this is where it gets crazy.
01:50:11.000If you just look on record of accomplishments against champions, you kind of have to put Alex Pereira already in the conversation of potential greatest of all time, which is so crazy.
01:50:23.000He's one of only three two-division champions, right?
01:50:48.000She was fighting girls that could have fought 35. It's real, but like 45 is the most, 145 for women is the most shallow division in MMA. So yes, you would say Amanda too.
01:50:59.000So it's a small percentage of people that have achieved that.
01:51:25.000To do that to a guy like Khalil, that was a clinic in elite, world-class MMA. And at first, the first two rounds, you're like, what is this like?
01:51:43.000Yeah, and you're like, oh my god, it's like literally watching one of those snakes, like a snake when they're just kind of like, like, did you see that snake that ate that deer?
01:51:50.000It was like a 77 pound deer or whatever?
01:52:40.000So he's standing in front of you, and when he kicks, there's no movement of his shoulders.
01:52:44.000He's just throwing these kicks out, and they land.
01:52:46.000And they're not as hard as if he put his whole body into it, but it's hard enough where you're like, oh, no.
01:52:52.000And you get hit with a couple of those, three, four, five of those.
01:52:55.000All of a sudden, you're like, I can't walk anymore, and now he's hunting you, and he's hunting you.
01:53:01.000See, I would put him already in the conversation.
01:53:03.000I don't think he's better than Jon Jones, greatest of all time, but I already put him in the conversation as a potential greatest of all time nominee.
01:53:19.000A couple of MMA fights other than the UFC, and then the UFC for this run at the top of the division, just smashing everyone to a blitherent.
01:53:49.000Anderson is prime is in that conversation.
01:53:51.000You got to look at them like in there in the moment Whenever there's a moment of time period like this amount of years to that amount of years Let's all agree that this is the prime forget about when they should have retired Let that go.
01:54:04.000Yeah, just talk about them when they're at their best.
01:54:41.000They crossed every T. They measured all their food.
01:54:44.000They fucking did the cryo chamber and they did saunas every day and got massages and were sparring and doing strength and conditioning drills and they were going over moves with their coaches.
01:56:20.000How we move past certain tragedies, you know?
01:56:23.000Like, we don't mean to, it's just the news cycle does, and, you know, we get kind of addicted to the news cycle, and so then it's kind of hard, you know?
01:56:32.000The way the administration handled that, I think, put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth, while at the same time they're sending all that money to Ukraine.
01:56:41.000I think that was a big problem with the Biden administration when they did that.
01:56:48.000You can't, while you're sending all this money overseas, ignore the people that are here.
01:56:53.000Because then it's like, why are you deciding in this manner that you don't want to help people that were hit with one of the biggest wildfire tragedies ever?
01:57:01.000Why are you deciding to give them $700?
01:57:06.000Especially in one of the most beautiful places that our country has to even exist.
01:57:10.000Not only that, but you're not protecting them from potential land grabs, right?
01:57:14.000Because one of the things that's going on with this is like they got to do insurance and they go through insurance and this and that.
01:57:20.000But meanwhile, these people are still paying mortgages.
01:57:24.000And it's hard to figure out there, Joe, because a lot of people, they live, like, second and third generations, all living in the same home.
01:57:48.000It's like this perfect slope looking down at the ocean.
01:57:52.000So what I would be fearful of, and if I was someone that was working in the government that wanted to protect people from being victimized, I would say, hey, let's make sure that this land doesn't get snatched up.
01:58:02.000Let's make sure that these people get their land back.
01:58:05.000That'd be the first thing I would say.
01:58:06.000If they all want to sell out to a resort and they make a decision on their own, you know, that's one thing.
01:58:11.000But if they get hit with a wildfire and then all of a sudden it takes forever for them to rebuild, they don't have the finances to rebuild, maybe there's a struggle with insurance.
02:00:02.000I'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land.
02:00:07.000So that we can put it into workforce housing to put it back to families or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to people who are lost.
02:00:17.000We want this to be something that we remember after the pain passes as a magic place and Lahaina will rebuild.
02:00:23.000The tragedy right now is the loss of life.
02:00:25.000The buildings can be rebuilt over time.
02:00:48.000We don't want this to become a clear space where then, yes, people from overseas...
02:00:53.000Come and decide they're going to take it.
02:00:56.000The state will take it and preserve it first.
02:00:58.000I think what they're probably worried about then is the banks grabbing it.
02:01:02.000So them saying that the state could take the land might be to prevent the banks from grabbing it and selling it and putting something there.
02:01:12.000But it still seems like overreach if you're living in the fucking place where the state's going to take the land.
02:01:18.000Well, it would be very scary as just a regular person.
02:01:48.000So the extra money that they accidentally sent to Ukraine, they could have sent there and rebuilt every house and had a billion dollars left over.
02:02:04.000Like, if you want us to pretend that we're all on the same team, you've got to treat us all like we're on the same team.
02:02:08.000You can't really be throwing all this money into Ukraine, and then there's places in America that suck, and you're not doing anything to help these folks.
02:02:26.000Like, if I'm an American and I'm contributing to this business by being an American and being part of the system, does the system not care about me, you know?
02:02:36.000But I guess everybody thinks about that in different ways, so...
02:02:38.000Well, I think whenever you have a system...
02:02:59.000But when people start to lose their purpose, like, if you start to lose your sense of being an American, that's big for a lot of people, right?
02:03:07.000So then it's a sense of purpose, right?
02:03:09.000One of the senses of purpose is I feel like that we get, or like having a job, having a family or somebody that loves you or that you love, or being a part of a country, right?
02:03:19.000Being a part of a fabric of a society.
02:03:21.000And when those things start to erode, some of those things, and if you don't have any other ones to back it up, then people get really rogue.
02:03:28.000Well, they get rogue, especially if they've been told by the mainstream media forever that if one side wins, you're going to be in a right-wing fascist dictatorship.
02:03:37.000Yeah, that just fucking pisses me off.
02:03:59.000But there's a bunch of different versions of it.
02:04:01.000It's usually connected to a right-wing authoritarian ideology and a power of the state over people.
02:04:09.000And it gets twisted around a lot because it's also – you could also say it's fascist to impose certain ideas on people, demand certain speech, which would make a lot of left-wing people fascists as well.
02:04:24.000Far-right authoritarian and utilitarian, ultra-nationalist, political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in natural social hierarchy,
02:04:40.000subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race.
02:04:45.000And strong regimentation of society and economy opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism.
02:04:55.000Fascism is placed on the far-right wing within the traditional left-right wing spectrum.
02:06:30.000I feel like if I'm paying taxes, then those are the things that I should expect at my FDA and at my police department, which I'm paying for, are going to be able to...
02:06:40.000Make sure that I can raise a family and raise them healthily and make it home from work to see my children.
02:06:45.000I feel like I don't have any children yet, but I already feel, you know, that's what I feel like people want.
02:07:26.000FDA's war on public health is about to end.
02:07:28.000This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk, hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vitamins, clean food, sunshine, exercise, nutraceuticals, and anything else that advances human health and can't be patented by pharma.
02:07:45.000If you work for the FDA and are a part of this corrupt system...
02:10:26.000And he would just throw those bitches.
02:10:27.000And sometimes it would be, you know, after they died or whatever, like, after they, like, you know, after the bones got blanched or whatever by the sun, we would fucking throw, you know, do like games or shit, but nothing.
02:13:07.000Populations of raccoon had declined 99.3%, opossums 98.9%, and bobcats 87.5% since 1997. Marsh rabbits, cottontail rabbits, and foxes effectively disappeared over that time.
02:18:08.000Dude, it's crazy how they have all those Airbnbs now where it's like, you can stay in a hollowed out whale carcass out here on the podcast.
02:21:46.000If you know there's a bigger guy and you think he's not going to live long, there's an exceptional amount of love that goes into them immediately.
02:21:52.000But John Daly back in the day wasn't fat.
02:26:48.000Dude, if an older kid picked you up when you were a kid and he had a car, it was like, getting into somebody who had a car's car when you couldn't even have a car was the craziest feeling ever.
02:27:53.000All right, you listen to songs on the radio.
02:27:55.000You couldn't believe you were in a car.
02:27:57.000Yeah, and it mattered, like, if your hand was out the window, the window was down, if the window was up, how you were operating, if the seatbelt was on, if your arms were over the seat.
02:28:19.000When I was in high school, there was this one dude who was like, I think he was a couple of years older than us, and he graduated, but he was dating a girl that still went to the high school, and he had an IROC-Z Camaro.
02:29:49.000Everything felt like kind of had the Stephen King vibes back then, you know?
02:29:53.000Well, people just disappeared back then, and there was no phones, and there was no internet, and you barely remembered people if you didn't see them for a month.
02:30:17.000But back then, it's like you would hear about this, like, one of the guys you went to high school with, he got in trouble, and like, oh no, now he's in jail.
02:30:36.000I had a buddy of mine who actually was a training partner of mine who was one guy.
02:30:42.000He was like this one way and then he went to jail on a drug charge and he came out like three years later and he was a totally different person.
02:30:52.000I don't know if he was doing steroids or what, but he was like really jacked and fucking aggressive and super dangerous.
02:30:59.000And he was telling me these stories about jail and about all the fights that he had gotten into in jail and he got in almost like a fight to the death with a mob stick in this guy.
02:31:10.000He was telling me these horrific fights, and it had just changed him, man.
02:31:15.000I mean, I had never experienced something like that before, where I knew a guy before he went to prison, and then I knew him after prison, and he was just a completely different person, and fucking very dangerous to spar with.
02:31:52.000But here's where it gets really crazy.
02:31:55.000While I knew this guy, like while he was training at the same gym as me, he got arrested and questioned in this murder where this guy who was an informant, I think he was an informant, they found him where he had been repeatedly injected with cocaine to keep him alive while they were breaking his bones.
02:32:17.000So from him blacking out from the pain, they were injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake and conscious while they were breaking his bones with a hammer.
02:32:27.000I think they cut his hands and his head off too.
02:32:30.000And he got implicated or at least questioned about that.
02:34:01.000There's always a percentage that's just not right, yeah?
02:34:04.000Well, whatever the struggle that the human race is involved in, if you wanted to break it down, just philosophically, it's essentially a struggle between good and evil.
02:34:34.000If you don't have resistance, it feels like people, the way we're designed to constantly try to innovate and make better things and improve upon society, improve upon our own lives, we're always like trying for progress, right?
02:34:47.000I think that's all sort of tied in to competition.
02:37:14.000And if you're saying we're not ignoring ourselves, well, we're not spending the money and the resources that we need to fix all the problems that we have.
02:37:20.000Yeah, it's like even if you look at like, you know, recently I learned, sorry, recently I learned that like the number one cause of medical debt is insurance, is medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in America,
02:38:08.000But it just makes sense that that would be the number one reason why people would go bankrupt because you're out of work because you've got a medical issue.
02:38:22.000Like, the prices for our drugs are so much more than other countries.
02:38:24.000Just things that it's like our government doesn't want to make better deals because there's this middleman that's making a lot of money off of it, you know?
02:39:58.000I kind of already stated what I thought about the way things were going and That some radical change need to take place.
02:40:05.000Yeah In my opinion, I just I'm not buying like, you know when we're talking about before with the way the country feels Like the way the country felt when Biden was in office was shaky Because regardless of what you thought about his policies,
02:40:21.000what he didn't place, it was real clear something was wrong with him.
02:40:27.000So that alone makes the whole country feel uneasy, right?
02:40:31.000Even if you think that the administration is moving certain policies and certain things are moving in the right direction, the economy is moving in the right general direction, even if you agree to those things, when you have a guy that's at the front that's obviously In some way compromised.
02:40:49.000Something going on that they don't want to admit.
02:40:51.000Everybody knows it and he drifts off and he says things that don't make sense and something's wrong.
02:40:57.000So everybody feels uncomfortable even if everything's going well, right?
02:41:01.000Because for good or for bad, that person that's in that office kind of sets a tone for the country.
02:41:09.000And the tone for the last four years was confusion.
02:41:13.000So regardless of their policies, the tone that's being established whenever he talks or whenever she does interviews or she talks is a confusing talk.
02:41:22.000There's word salad and then there's like these moments where it seems like she doesn't know how to wrap up a sentence, which can just be nerves.
02:41:31.000It could just be nerves talking in front of large groups of people.
02:41:35.000Yeah, she was new and kind of thrown into it.
02:41:37.000But some people clam up when they have to do those things.
02:41:40.000But then there's the argument that's the job though.
02:41:42.000You have to be able to do that because you're going to have to be able to talk to Putin and presidents of these different countries and leaders throughout the world.
02:41:52.000You've got to be able to handle pressure.
02:41:55.000Part of it too is you've got to be able to handle pressure.
02:41:58.000But the thing that people worry about Trump is that he's so antagonistic and that then that's the tone of the country.
02:42:05.000And the tone of the country is not, like, the tone of the Obama administration I always felt was the best because he was measured, never attacked anybody, was very articulate and smooth.
02:42:30.000Obama was the smoothest, and Clinton was pretty fucking smooth, too.
02:42:35.000Maybe Clinton and Obama, those are the goats.
02:42:37.000So when you get a person, for good or for bad, that's smooth and talks like a professional, like an actual president, it makes everybody like...
02:43:45.000If RFK really does the things that we think he wants to do and starts to kind of clean up some of the corruption in the system, it'd be exciting.
02:45:59.000It's one of the worst drug dealers because you're sneaking around with doctors.
02:46:03.000You're sneaking around under this guise of authority.
02:46:07.000Well, one of the problems is that, say if you work for a politician in DC, they can only pay you so much money by law to work with them and help put their bills together.
02:46:22.000So, at a certain point, the lobbyists can pay more to those same people who've been writing bills For the congressmen and for the senators, so they then go to work as lobbyists.
02:47:00.000It should be, if you're working for the FDA, you should never be able to leave and go to a pharmaceutical drug company where you can then make incredible amounts of money.
02:47:08.000That seems like a conflict of interest.
02:47:10.000If you had conversations with these people and they'd say, listen, are you nice to us in a couple of years?
02:47:56.000Accountability and transparency in terms of, like, what's actually going on is way different now because our access to information is way different now.
02:48:07.000Like, anybody can just sort of Google budgets and Google this and you find out that and you find out things about the Pentagon and that about this.
02:48:16.000You don't have to look in the New York Times anymore.
02:48:18.000You don't have to wait for the news to come on at 5. Now you get it whenever you want it.
02:48:23.000And that's sort of changed everything with what you can get away with and not get away with.
02:48:27.000So for the longest time, even though there's rules and the Constitution is set up and the Bill of Rights, There's been people that have had a lot of power for a long-ass time without a bunch of people looking at them.
02:48:38.000And now more people are looking at them than ever before.
02:48:41.000And then you get this guy like Trump comes in like, FBI, the crooked girl!
02:50:04.000Not only that, it's just that there's no way they didn't know that it was for humans.
02:50:09.000Those people are, it's all a sick group.
02:50:10.000But when I saw that, and that was so minor in comparison to the way they've come up to Trump, because they come up to Trump with lawsuits and all kinds of crazy shit.
02:50:17.000And I don't think he's a perfect person.
02:50:21.000And I think he's a very competitive guy, which is why he likes playing golf so much, and it's why he wouldn't quit until he became the president again.
02:50:30.000And the best thing that I've heard from people on the left is, it's not the result that we wanted, but we hope the country can come together.
02:50:37.000And I think we should all have that mentality.
02:52:11.000And it's these idealistic utopian people that want these things to happen, these people that believe that Marxism has never been effectively done But it can be done.
02:52:21.000There's a version of all of these different communist philosophies that you can employ.
02:52:27.000There's socialism that could work, right?
02:52:30.000There's a version of it that can work and make it more equitable for everybody.
02:52:33.000But the end of that is always one thing.
02:52:36.000It's totalitarian control over what you say and do.
02:52:41.000Because as soon as you want to redistribute funds, as soon as you want to tell people they can't have things anymore, then you're going to have to take it from them.
02:55:13.000You couldn't even say like, hey, are you sure that these companies who have been lying their entire careers, they've been fucking hit with these giant criminal penalties for lying.
02:56:21.000And if you can connect that with the people that's the logical, educated people that are reasonable and convince them that you can't look at it sideways.
02:56:37.000You can't question whether or not these other therapeutics that all these doctors have these anecdotal stories about people recovering from these antivirals and trying them.
03:00:35.000It was like he got sort of exposed to all that working for Jimmy and doing that show, and he was like, oh my god, this whole fucking thing is rigged.
03:00:42.000And then he'd just get rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole.
03:00:46.000That dude will send you a text, and if you send him a text back, he will send you a chain of thoughts.
03:02:02.000You got four years to do all sorts of things that could really benefit people, and then you will be remembered as that guy.
03:02:09.000Well, I just want people to tell us what's really going on.
03:02:11.000If they can't really do anything because the lobbyists are controlling everything, I wish somebody would just tell us that.
03:02:16.000Well, I think if anybody's gonna, it's him, especially now, and especially with access to podcasts, right?
03:02:21.000So if he decides to do your podcast two months after he's in office and you have questions like that, all of a sudden Trump could probably tell you.
03:02:28.000Whatever it's not top secret, he could probably tell you.
03:02:30.000He said he's going to release the JFK files.
03:02:32.000We're going to find out a lot of things.
03:02:35.000We're going to find out whether or not he's going to really keep RFK Jr. as a part of his organization or whether he's going to get pressure from pharmaceutical drug companies or whoever.
03:02:44.000If he loses him, dude, that's not cool.
03:02:49.000And then there's, is he going to release the JFK files?
03:02:52.000Because he was told that he shouldn't release them.
03:02:57.000He said some of the people were still alive, which doesn't totally make sense, because that was 1963. So most likely, most of those people would be dead of old age.
03:03:08.000But what does it mean, though, when someone says that?
03:03:12.000That means that someone from the government could be implicated in the murder of the former president.
03:03:18.000So if that's true, then would it be that they're worried that it would erode All confidence in the intelligence agencies?
03:03:28.000Or are they worried that deeper investigations would take place?
03:03:32.000And then people start saying, well, what happened with Martin Luther King?
03:03:36.000You know, because there was one that Mike Baker, who's a former CIA guy, was saying that one, like he investigated for a show, he goes, that one doesn't make any sense.
03:03:56.000So that guy, Mike Baker broke it down for us.
03:03:59.000I don't remember exactly, but essentially what he's saying is that that guy was a drifter, who was a loser, you know, in and out of jail, that kind of a guy, and then all of a sudden he has access to money, he's staying in a nice place, and he has a gun.
03:04:52.000Bro, you could literally go across the fucking behind a boulder, shave, come back to the town, get a job as a sheriff, and look for yourself for 20 years.
03:05:55.000He considered emigrating to Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, where a predominantly white minority regime had unilaterally assumed independence from the United Kingdom in 1965. Wow.
03:06:11.000Nose job, and then went to Atlanta, and then very quickly decided to do what he did.
03:11:15.000You don't think about the side effects of somebody being able to have a memory that records so much.
03:11:21.000Well, it's just, you always concentrate on the worst possible aspects of people.
03:11:25.000And so if you know so many acts and things that people have done that have been horrific, you're always, like, the back of your head always has, but maybe that could happen.
03:13:15.000So if violence and crime exists, there's only one way you can shield the nonviolent people who aren't committing crimes from the criminals, and that's dangerous men.
03:13:25.000You need dangerous armed men who are trained and are capable.
03:13:29.000It doesn't mean they should be running everything.
03:13:32.000It means you need 100% protection from dangerous people.
03:13:36.000Then, here's the number one thing that nobody addresses.
03:13:39.000You've got to figure out why are so many people coming out of these same communities year after year after year after year being dangerous where no one's doing shit about it.
03:13:53.000Do you know how much income we're losing, because these people don't grow up to become productive members of society, how much damage it's causing if they go on to commit violent crimes, whatever, drug dealing, anything that can come out of that.
03:14:07.000And do you know how much of a burden it is on the taxpayer to sort of put them through the criminal system and how much of that could be completely removed if that person grows up and becomes a productive member of society and instead starts contributing to society and it's a success story.
03:14:24.000That's not impossible to do, but there's been no effort, no engineering, large-scale national effort to completely eliminate these horrible spots in this country.
03:14:35.000And not make everything the same and perfect.
03:14:38.000But there's a level of poverty that exists in this country that's...
03:14:44.000You should never be that poor if you're a part of a community.
03:14:47.000If you're a part of a community that takes care of everybody, there's no reason why you have $175 billion to ship to Ukraine, but you don't have any money to make sure that no one exists below a certain level of poverty in this future.
03:15:36.000It didn't used to be a radical idea, but it became a radical idea when people started floating about the idea that capitalism is evil, all capitalism is bad.
03:15:46.000There's all these people that have these utopian notions of how we should run our society.
03:15:50.000Well, maybe it could be true at a certain point.
03:15:52.000I think it's going to probably have to be true at a certain point because of AI. I think we're going to get to some weird point where money seems like it's just ones and zeros.
03:16:14.000But if we get to this point where we evolve past the state we're at now where you can't trust people to not steal your money, where you can't trust people to not lie, where you can't trust people to not manipulate things and try for their own benefit.
03:16:27.000If human beings can eventually get to a place like that, then I could see a time in our evolved future where we don't need money.
03:16:36.000Or when everybody has the same amount, where instead of having this desire to constantly acquire goods and constantly acquire status and prestige in the community,
03:16:51.000have the bigger house, the bigger car, if that completely goes away and human beings really are one hive mind, I could see where we could equally share resources.
03:17:03.000Either a cyborg or a million years in the future.
03:17:06.000I'm talking about like where we get past all of our primitive cave people instincts and DNA that I think fucks with everything and is the cause of almost all of our problems.
03:17:24.000Well, you know, there's some variations that have occurred over time, but reasonably similar, I should say, to people that lived 10,000 years ago.
03:17:32.000So if you took a person from 10,000 years ago and you put them in a t-shirt like this and sat them in the movie theater, you wouldn't be able to tell.
03:18:04.000So that person, if you've got a person who lives 10,000 years ago, the amount of barbaric incidents that guy's probably seen by the time he becomes an adult, the amount of people he's probably seen slaughtered with swords and spears and seen people lit on fire, That's all inside of us still.
03:18:22.000All that programming of like everybody's the enemy and you got to protect the fields and protect the...
03:18:28.000That is all a part of our programming.
03:18:31.000And as technology increases and as we become more interconnected, that's going to be one of the biggest problems that we face is abandoning these bizarre primate characteristics that we still hold on to.
03:18:46.000Because they're in our DNA. And they're not managed well.
03:18:49.000Like, people need to manage them to suppress them.
03:19:18.000This year's just been, it's just been, it's been like every time I'm not doing a podcast, I have to like, I'm traveling for work or it's like, it's just been a busy time.
03:19:26.000Hey, if we open up another mothership, do you think Nashville would be a good spot?
03:20:14.000I can't believe it's so crazy that I was there to watch the at least like the elect just like what a night and was like It was really fun time to watch the election at the club in the green room.
03:20:23.000We're all hopping back and forth off stage like who's winning?