The Joe Rogan Experience - November 14, 2024


Joe Rogan Experience #2229 - Jeff Dye


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Length

2 hours and 28 minutes

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210.10094

Word Count

31,221

Sentence Count

3,402

Misogynist Sentences

107


Summary

On this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the comedian and podcaster talks about his love of dogs and how to discipline them. He talks about how he got his first dog, a Rhodesian Ridgeback, and what it's like to have a dog that's out of control. He also talks about training a Golden Retriever and how it's not as easy as you think it is. Joe also shares a story about how his dog almost got into a fight with another dog and how he managed to get him to calm down and listen to him. And he talks about what it s like to be a dog owner and how important it is to discipline your dog. This episode was recorded on location in Los Angeles, California, at a friend's house. If you're a dog lover or dog lover, this episode is for you! Thanks for listening and Good Luck Out There, and Happy Training! -Jon Sorrentino ( ) and . -Joe Rogan ( ) is a comedian, podcaster, writer, and actor. He is a friend of mine and I'm a big dog lover and dog lover too. . . . and I hope you enjoy this episode, it's a good listen. I hope it makes you all have a good day! -Jon and I talk about dogs and their training. - Jon Rogan Thank you for being a good friend of ours, Jon Rogans podcast. Joe Rogans Podcast , and Joe's podcast, The Joe's Podcast, and much more of course, :) The Joe is a good dude, and he's a great guy, and we love you, Jon's podcast is a great dude, too, so thank you for listening to this podcast, so don't forget to send us some love, good vibes, good night, good morning, good day, good love, and good vibing, bye, good luck, good bye, bye. , bye, Joe, bye bye, love, bye Love ya, bye! - Jon & Joe <3 -JOGAN - XO - JOGAN, ROGAN AND ROG Jon and RODAN xO & JOSEPH, EJ, -RODAN, JORDY, RYAN, AKA


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00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
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00:00:12.000 I used to have a dog that had terrible...
00:00:14.000 I mean, I'm always traveling, and also, like, I'm not real good with discipline of, like, someone else, you know?
00:00:20.000 Like, I don't know how to train a dog.
00:00:22.000 So I'd just let him do anything.
00:00:23.000 So I think it was hilarious.
00:00:24.000 He'd be, like, chewing on something, like, check that out.
00:00:26.000 They're like, he shouldn't do that.
00:00:27.000 I was like, eh, fuck it, let him...
00:00:28.000 Like, I just liked the idea that he was wild.
00:00:31.000 It made me happy.
00:00:32.000 It's very bad, though, if your dog bites somebody.
00:00:36.000 Oh, he's always just humping stuff and eating things.
00:00:38.000 He was a Ridgeback.
00:00:39.000 Oh, a Rhodesian Ridgeback?
00:00:40.000 Yeah.
00:00:41.000 Oh.
00:00:41.000 But in my mind, I'm like, well, why do I want to rain tyranny on this dog and be like, he needs to sit.
00:00:46.000 I kind of liked that he was this little psycho that would hump things.
00:00:50.000 That's fun, but you've got to be able to control them.
00:00:53.000 Yeah, I know.
00:00:54.000 I couldn't.
00:00:54.000 How old were you back then?
00:00:56.000 I was young, like 31 or something at the time.
00:00:59.000 It was like young...
00:01:01.000 It's not that young.
00:01:02.000 You're young to me, dude.
00:01:02.000 I didn't become an adult for a while.
00:01:04.000 For like six months ago.
00:01:05.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:01:06.000 Well, about four years, I think, was mine.
00:01:08.000 No, but that dog, I would open the door, he would just dart.
00:01:11.000 And I was like, yeah, this dog is unhinged.
00:01:13.000 I let him wolf.
00:01:14.000 You liked it.
00:01:14.000 Yeah, I liked it.
00:01:15.000 That's crazy.
00:01:16.000 Yeah, I've had some crazy dogs, but it's like, you gotta train them.
00:01:20.000 I know.
00:01:21.000 They have to listen to you.
00:01:22.000 I had a lot of pit bulls when I was younger.
00:01:24.000 Oh, nice.
00:01:24.000 They have to listen.
00:01:25.000 You look like a pit bull.
00:01:26.000 They have to have a sense that you're the boss.
00:01:30.000 You have to be kind and sweet and you love them.
00:01:33.000 But you're the boss.
00:01:34.000 Like, you have to train them.
00:01:35.000 I trained my dog diligently.
00:01:37.000 It's like, treat, sit, stay, line up, make him stay for five minutes, and then give him a big treat, and hug him and kiss him.
00:01:44.000 You gotta, like, make sure they fucking listen.
00:01:46.000 Well, that was the problem.
00:01:47.000 Is that I would literally, like, he would be doing something, and I'd be like, he doesn't respect me.
00:01:53.000 That's as simple as it was.
00:01:55.000 He saw me as a cool guy.
00:01:57.000 He didn't respect me.
00:01:57.000 He was your friend.
00:01:59.000 So I would leave him with his dog trainer in Sherman Oaks, and the dog trainer would send me videos, and he'd be like, look.
00:02:04.000 And I would think, look at me.
00:02:05.000 My money's going to good.
00:02:07.000 Look at what my dog's doing.
00:02:08.000 He's doing a little turn.
00:02:10.000 But it's because he respected that guy.
00:02:12.000 And so then he would come back to my house.
00:02:14.000 He'd just piss on the couch while he's laying there.
00:02:16.000 And I'm going, wait, what was all that stuff he learned?
00:02:18.000 And he goes, my dog's looking at me going, not for you.
00:02:21.000 Yeah, you're my friend.
00:02:22.000 Yeah, you're the cool guy.
00:02:23.000 You're my fucking roommate, bro.
00:02:24.000 We were buds.
00:02:25.000 We're both dogs.
00:02:26.000 Which is a metaphor for my life, too.
00:02:28.000 Like, I was the fun piss on the couch guy.
00:02:31.000 But at some point, you got to grow up and be disciplined.
00:02:33.000 You really do.
00:02:34.000 Yeah.
00:02:35.000 And you don't have as much fun, but the fun that you have, you appreciate.
00:02:39.000 Oh, for sure.
00:02:39.000 Yeah, because it's like, it's not out of control.
00:02:41.000 Yeah.
00:02:42.000 My dog that I have now is the first dog that I've ever had that was so easy to train, it's like I didn't even train him.
00:02:48.000 And it's a Golden?
00:02:48.000 Yeah.
00:02:48.000 Aren't they kind of dumb?
00:02:49.000 No, my dog's very smart.
00:02:51.000 What's the dumb breed?
00:02:52.000 They're just sweet.
00:02:53.000 They're sweet so people think they're dumb, but he understands words.
00:02:57.000 Like, I'll say, not that door, dude.
00:02:59.000 Let's go in the side door.
00:03:00.000 And he turns around and goes towards the side door.
00:03:01.000 Nice.
00:03:01.000 Like, he gets it.
00:03:03.000 Like, he's a fucking smart dog, but training him is like that.
00:03:07.000 Really?
00:03:07.000 Oh my god.
00:03:08.000 First of all...
00:03:09.000 Goldens have no resistance.
00:03:11.000 They don't want to fight.
00:03:13.000 They never growl at people.
00:03:15.000 If they bark, if they see something weird, they never bark at people.
00:03:18.000 They're just the sweetest dog.
00:03:20.000 I love that.
00:03:20.000 So they just want you to be their friend.
00:03:22.000 So I teach them to sit.
00:03:23.000 It was real easy.
00:03:24.000 It was like, sit.
00:03:25.000 I push his butt down.
00:03:26.000 And then I'd give him a little treat.
00:03:28.000 And then I'd say, sit.
00:03:30.000 And he'd just sit down.
00:03:31.000 Love it.
00:03:31.000 And I'd give him a treat.
00:03:32.000 And then next day, it was like, sit.
00:03:34.000 He sat.
00:03:34.000 Pat him on the head.
00:03:35.000 Give him a kiss.
00:03:36.000 Now he just listens.
00:03:37.000 Which is also the metaphor for humans.
00:03:40.000 We like to have a little approval.
00:03:42.000 It's less of the treat and the pat on the head.
00:03:45.000 I made dad happy.
00:03:46.000 Yeah, they're the most like people, those dogs.
00:03:48.000 They're the most like people.
00:03:49.000 What's the dumb breed?
00:03:50.000 Because I don't want to keep doing this.
00:03:51.000 Oh, there's a lot of dumb breeds.
00:03:51.000 Sometimes I'll see like a Dalmatian and then I'll ask that one.
00:03:55.000 Poor little Carl.
00:03:57.000 Carl's not the brightest.
00:03:58.000 But his brain's the size of my thumb.
00:04:00.000 It doesn't have a big head.
00:04:03.000 They're cute though, that's the thing.
00:04:05.000 I fucking love the shit out of that dog.
00:04:06.000 He's so jacked, too.
00:04:07.000 Look how jacked is.
00:04:08.000 His little muscles.
00:04:09.000 He's in constant shape.
00:04:11.000 Well, him and Marshall go to war.
00:04:13.000 When Marshall's here, Carl gets so tired from playing with my dog, because my dog doesn't fight back, so he just totally takes advantage of it.
00:04:21.000 I love it.
00:04:21.000 Just throws himself at him like a torpedo.
00:04:23.000 But when it's over, he can't breathe.
00:04:26.000 He's like...
00:04:26.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, because he was bred to not wrestle.
00:04:30.000 He's got no nose.
00:04:30.000 He's got no fucking nasal cavity.
00:04:33.000 It is a weird dog.
00:04:34.000 That used to be a wolf.
00:04:35.000 They look like aliens.
00:04:36.000 It's so fucking weird that humans turned a wolf into that fucking thing.
00:04:39.000 I think it's our best invention.
00:04:41.000 It's a pretty cool job.
00:04:43.000 I'm not saying it's an ethical thing or smart.
00:04:46.000 I mean, it's kind of like, you know, if you knew what you were doing to a wolf, it's kind of fucked up.
00:04:51.000 But it doesn't need to survive.
00:04:53.000 Yeah, he's got Jamie.
00:04:54.000 He's got us.
00:04:55.000 He's in the safest place in America right now.
00:04:57.000 Like when you see those ladies that carry him around in their little purses.
00:05:00.000 Got a dog carrying around with their purse.
00:05:02.000 That used to be a wolf.
00:05:04.000 That's wild.
00:05:04.000 They're trying to do that to us.
00:05:05.000 I know.
00:05:06.000 That's the problem.
00:05:07.000 Just keep your dogs.
00:05:09.000 Don't change me.
00:05:10.000 They want to do it to everybody.
00:05:11.000 If Kamala won, we would have been one step closer to poodles.
00:05:14.000 Every day I was getting closer.
00:05:16.000 That's why I'm single, too.
00:05:18.000 Just trying to hold on to any freedom I got.
00:05:20.000 You've got to find someone that you jive with that gets you.
00:05:23.000 That's what's hard.
00:05:24.000 People want to change people.
00:05:26.000 Girls look at guys, they look at some guys like a project.
00:05:29.000 Like, I know he doesn't want to settle down.
00:05:31.000 I know he doesn't want this.
00:05:33.000 But if I could just get him to start changing the way he dresses.
00:05:36.000 I know.
00:05:37.000 And then I get him to do things.
00:05:38.000 Open the car door for me like my hands don't work.
00:05:41.000 I know.
00:05:41.000 I'm still, I'm the Ridgeback we were just talking about.
00:05:45.000 Where I'm going, just let me be wild.
00:05:48.000 I'll spend like 24 hours with a woman and I just enjoy every second of it.
00:05:54.000 I enjoy every, like all the affection, the door opening.
00:05:58.000 I enjoy these kind of things, you know, taking care of someone, showing them how cool.
00:06:01.000 Do you open up the car door?
00:06:02.000 Yeah, I'll do that.
00:06:03.000 Yeah, I like that.
00:06:04.000 I'll show them my life.
00:06:06.000 You know, hey, these are my comedy buddies and watch me go kill on stage.
00:06:09.000 Oh, I got this.
00:06:10.000 I'll pay for everything.
00:06:11.000 And about like at a 24 hours of my brain, I'm like, I gotta get out of this.
00:06:14.000 Like, how do I reset?
00:06:15.000 Maybe you're overdosing.
00:06:16.000 Maybe it's like binge drinking.
00:06:18.000 Yeah, maybe.
00:06:18.000 You know, if you have a glass of wine with dinner, you don't feel like, oh, get that fucking wine away from me.
00:06:23.000 That is true.
00:06:24.000 But if you drink like Burt Kreischer, you drink fucking boxes of wine.
00:06:27.000 Burt would get on the treadmill and drink a box of wine on the treadmill.
00:06:33.000 Bert suffers from the same disease Patrice had.
00:06:36.000 He's so this one-of-a-kind person that everything he says and all the advice he tries to give don't work for anyone else because he's one of a kind.
00:06:48.000 So he'll say, here's what you gotta do, and you go, that doesn't apply to me.
00:06:52.000 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:06:53.000 We can't be on a treadmill drinking a box of wine and then go do a show for 200 grand.
00:06:58.000 We're different people.
00:06:59.000 He can keep going.
00:07:01.000 I've never seen anyone like him.
00:07:03.000 He's a freak athlete, believe it or not.
00:07:05.000 I believe that.
00:07:06.000 Tom Segura played him in a game of tennis, and Tom got a tennis coach.
00:07:11.000 They had this big tennis match.
00:07:13.000 They even did it on one of those Your Mom's House live screens.
00:07:17.000 They made a big deal out of it, a big tennis match.
00:07:20.000 Burt destroyed him.
00:07:22.000 Drunk, hungover, giant belly, serves like a pro.
00:07:26.000 He said he literally serves like a fucking Division I college player.
00:07:31.000 I didn't know that about him.
00:07:32.000 That's pretty impressive.
00:07:33.000 He goes, what the fuck?
00:07:35.000 He goes, his serve is insane.
00:07:37.000 That makes total sense.
00:07:39.000 I'm somewhat surprised by it.
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00:09:40.000 Yeah, he just knows how to do...
00:09:42.000 He's also got this bizarre confidence that allows him to not have anxiety about trying new things.
00:09:48.000 Great for this business.
00:09:49.000 Oh yeah!
00:09:49.000 Just dives in, takes his shirt off, woo!
00:09:51.000 Look at me!
00:09:55.000 He went on something where he was gone.
00:09:57.000 If someone tells you to quit drinking, don't stop drinking.
00:10:02.000 Tell them to shut up.
00:10:04.000 Drinking is the best thing.
00:10:05.000 I go, Jesus Christ.
00:10:05.000 You know how many alcoholics are hearing this right now, Bert?
00:10:08.000 Some people should quit.
00:10:09.000 Some people shouldn't.
00:10:10.000 I get what he was trying to do.
00:10:12.000 I get the point that he was trying to do.
00:10:15.000 Boom.
00:10:15.000 Oh, that was beautiful.
00:10:17.000 What is he doing there?
00:10:19.000 He hit it over the fence.
00:10:20.000 Yeah, but the form of that was beautiful.
00:10:22.000 What did he do there?
00:10:23.000 I think he aced him.
00:10:23.000 Oh, he did ace him.
00:10:25.000 Oh, Tom's flustered.
00:10:27.000 Yeah, he's really good.
00:10:28.000 Tom's just happy he didn't snap his leg here.
00:10:31.000 Boom!
00:10:31.000 Yeah, look at that fucking serve!
00:10:33.000 Bro, it's got a curve to it, too.
00:10:35.000 Oh, that's great.
00:10:37.000 Also, Burt looks fit here.
00:10:39.000 Well, that's for him.
00:10:41.000 For him, he's fit.
00:10:42.000 You know, he loses weight.
00:10:43.000 He gets way down, and then he binges up again.
00:10:45.000 He gets crazy again.
00:10:46.000 He lost, like, 60 pounds and got real fit, didn't drink for, like, three months.
00:10:50.000 Yeah.
00:10:51.000 And then he just goes crazy again.
00:10:52.000 Yeah, has a good time.
00:10:53.000 I love him, though.
00:10:54.000 But I was just saying, like, the advice thing.
00:10:55.000 Like, did you ever work with Patrice or know him good?
00:10:58.000 Yeah.
00:10:58.000 One time I'm in New York.
00:10:59.000 This is the late, great Patrice O'Neal.
00:11:01.000 I'm going through a thing with a girl at the time.
00:11:04.000 And, you know, people ask you how you're doing, and if you're sad, I'm a pretty honest guy.
00:11:07.000 I just go, you know, my girlfriend's driving me crazy.
00:11:10.000 She's back at, you know, the apartment when I was in New York.
00:11:14.000 She's back.
00:11:15.000 It's just stressing me out.
00:11:15.000 I need to get on stage, have a good time, have some drinks.
00:11:18.000 I need to, like, just whatever.
00:11:19.000 He goes, here's what you do, man.
00:11:20.000 You're a good-looking guy.
00:11:21.000 And I was like, yeah.
00:11:22.000 I'm thinking I'm going to get advice from Patrice, you know, this will be great.
00:11:25.000 He goes, you're a good looking guy, man.
00:11:27.000 Bring another girl home.
00:11:28.000 Right!
00:11:28.000 Is that what he said?
00:11:29.000 He like goes, I've seen the way these girls look at you around there.
00:11:31.000 You find one of these bitches.
00:11:33.000 You have a good time.
00:11:34.000 Don't worry about what's back at the apartment.
00:11:36.000 Then when the time comes, bring her back.
00:11:38.000 Bring her back to your apartment and say, yo, this is me.
00:11:44.000 This is, you know, you got to deal with this shit.
00:11:46.000 And I was like...
00:11:49.000 Patrice, you're my hero.
00:11:50.000 I love ya.
00:11:52.000 Terrible advice!
00:11:53.000 Terrible advice.
00:11:54.000 You're gonna get me murdered.
00:11:55.000 You're gonna get murdered.
00:11:56.000 Also, that's just not the type of women I hang out with.
00:11:59.000 They're not gonna be fine with that.
00:12:01.000 Yeah, that's a very specific type of woman.
00:12:03.000 I couldn't believe it.
00:12:04.000 Who are already probably gonna murder you.
00:12:05.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:12:06.000 Time's ticking on that, exactly.
00:12:08.000 I have a friend of mine that said that he was gonna talk my girlfriend into doing a threesome.
00:12:13.000 And I had the same exact feeling of someone saying to me, hey, I started making my own bombs.
00:12:17.000 Right, you go, don't do the interview.
00:12:18.000 Jesus Christ.
00:12:19.000 I'm going to die!
00:12:20.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:12:21.000 But I think that that's what you should think when you hear your heroes or Burt tell you anything.
00:12:25.000 Just know their lives are different than yours.
00:12:28.000 Yeah, there's some certain one-of-a-kind people that you just got to say, like, not everybody can do that.
00:12:33.000 Like, Burt went and got a liver screen and cancer.
00:12:36.000 He's fine.
00:12:37.000 Yeah.
00:12:37.000 He's fine.
00:12:38.000 He can do it.
00:12:39.000 He's fine.
00:12:39.000 He is a machine.
00:12:41.000 He gets his health checked, and his health is fine.
00:12:43.000 He's 50 years old.
00:12:44.000 Yeah.
00:12:45.000 He's still going hard.
00:12:46.000 How old is Burt now?
00:12:47.000 He's got to be deep into his 40s.
00:12:50.000 But Bert will be like, don't quit drinking!
00:12:52.000 Have a good time!
00:12:53.000 And then some guy's like, I'm hitting my wife again!
00:12:55.000 Dude, this booze is...
00:12:56.000 He was probably drunk when he said that.
00:12:57.000 He probably took some time off and then had a drink.
00:13:01.000 Started feeling good.
00:13:02.000 I want to tweet some advice.
00:13:04.000 Yeah, it was one of those things.
00:13:05.000 Because I love him.
00:13:06.000 And a lot of the comments were like, oh, another comedian not understanding another comedian.
00:13:11.000 I was like, no, it's not that.
00:13:12.000 I love Bert.
00:13:13.000 If you knew our relationship, you'd get it.
00:13:15.000 Where we're good.
00:13:16.000 I just want people to know, if you do have a problem, it's okay to quit.
00:13:20.000 Especially you, as a person who quit.
00:13:22.000 I was just saying, hey, this is a sensitive subject for some people.
00:13:25.000 It is!
00:13:26.000 Because, look, I have certain friends that have recovered from alcoholism, and this one buddy that I had that used to drink, he would drink, and then his eyes would glaze over like a shark's.
00:13:37.000 Like the pupils would be gone, and he wasn't there anymore.
00:13:39.000 Like, oh, Bob's gone.
00:13:41.000 Now this is fucking drunk Bob.
00:13:42.000 Drunk Bob, totally different human being.
00:13:44.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:13:45.000 He would black out all the time, not remember things, like, you don't remember what you did?
00:13:49.000 Like, he didn't remember anything?
00:13:50.000 I was that guy.
00:13:51.000 I would be fun, fun, fun, until it wasn't fun.
00:13:53.000 Dude, I think it's a genetic thing.
00:13:56.000 I'm guessing, but I've never had that.
00:14:00.000 So I've gotta assume that it's a genetic thing.
00:14:02.000 I've gotten fucked up before.
00:14:04.000 I've gotten really drunk.
00:14:05.000 I've never, like, I need to get drunk.
00:14:07.000 I've never been like, I need to get drunk.
00:14:09.000 But I have friends that- I have one gear, dude.
00:14:11.000 So there's a thing, yeah.
00:14:13.000 One gear.
00:14:14.000 One gear.
00:14:14.000 If we're going to smoke weed, I smoke all the weed.
00:14:17.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:14:18.000 If we're doing coke, you're going to Tijuana.
00:14:20.000 Right, yeah.
00:14:21.000 I become King Coke guy, you know?
00:14:23.000 Why do one Viagra when I can do six Viagras?
00:14:26.000 You know, like, I just don't have a...
00:14:28.000 And that's why also, like, it works to my benefit.
00:14:32.000 You know, the first time I said I'm going to do stand-up, I never stopped.
00:14:34.000 Like, I was up there.
00:14:35.000 I was obsessed.
00:14:36.000 Did you ever get hit in the head real hard?
00:14:39.000 Yeah, I played a lot of, like, sports growing up.
00:14:41.000 So, yeah, I got hit.
00:14:42.000 I've had two really serious concussions where I went to the hospital.
00:14:45.000 Yeah.
00:14:46.000 You think that's it?
00:14:47.000 Yes.
00:14:47.000 Oh, interesting.
00:14:48.000 I had two big ones where I lost a week.
00:14:50.000 I mean, I'm not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, but I do know that that is one of the side effects of brain injury, is that you lose impulse control.
00:14:59.000 Interesting.
00:15:00.000 Yeah, I've got no governor.
00:15:01.000 Which works good.
00:15:02.000 It works good for some things.
00:15:03.000 Like I said, when I'm hanging out with a girl, I'm the best boyfriend ever.
00:15:07.000 I'm king.
00:15:08.000 And then it's gotta be extremely not.
00:15:11.000 There's kind of these extremes.
00:15:12.000 Yeah, you gotta get to know someone.
00:15:13.000 If you're diving in with someone for 24 hours, 48 hours, and you just met them, the chances of you guys jiving perfectly are not that good.
00:15:23.000 Not even 50-50.
00:15:24.000 If you get lucky, you find the girl of your dreams, and then, hey, we've been together, we hung out together for two days in a row, and then, fuck, we were married six months later, and we live happily ever after.
00:15:34.000 That's real.
00:15:35.000 I've met people like that.
00:15:36.000 It can happen, but generally, first of all, when you meet someone, you're barely meeting them.
00:15:42.000 You're meeting the thing that they put on when they want someone to like them.
00:15:46.000 It's performative a little, for sure.
00:15:48.000 I always say to young guys, try to become the person you pretend to be when you're trying to get laid.
00:15:54.000 Wait, say it again?
00:15:55.000 Try to be...
00:15:56.000 Become the person that you're pretending to be when you're trying to get laid.
00:16:00.000 I like that.
00:16:01.000 Just be that person, and you never have to pretend.
00:16:04.000 I love that.
00:16:05.000 I believe that outside of the idea of relationships.
00:16:08.000 So, like, I always say, like, and I probably heard this somewhere, read it somewhere, but, like, the idea of, like, you can be like your heroes.
00:16:15.000 Yes.
00:16:15.000 What do you like about the person you say you like?
00:16:18.000 Right.
00:16:18.000 They're kind.
00:16:19.000 Okay, so just be kind.
00:16:20.000 That's what people like.
00:16:21.000 Or, oh, I like that guy because he's down to earth.
00:16:24.000 Yes.
00:16:24.000 So then you should try to be down to earth.
00:16:26.000 You should be like the people.
00:16:29.000 And you can also have antiheroes.
00:16:30.000 Me and my parents have a very tumultuous relationship.
00:16:32.000 And so that's a positive for me because I'm going, I don't want to be like that.
00:16:36.000 Yes.
00:16:36.000 Or that quality that I don't want to be like.
00:16:38.000 For me, it was always lazy people.
00:16:40.000 I had a severe disdain for lazy people, like an aggressive disdain.
00:16:47.000 I'd be angry at people if they were lazy when I was a young man.
00:16:49.000 It was because I was so scared of being lazy.
00:16:51.000 I was so scared of being a loser that if I saw any laziness in people, I'd get angry.
00:16:56.000 Which is weird because you love pot.
00:16:59.000 A lot of pot guys are just happy with their laziness.
00:17:03.000 Yeah, that's not me, man.
00:17:04.000 I know.
00:17:04.000 You're the opposite.
00:17:05.000 You're like the most productive pothead I've ever known.
00:17:07.000 To me, it doesn't slow me down.
00:17:09.000 It makes me think more.
00:17:11.000 And when I think more, I think about all the shit I need to get done.
00:17:14.000 And I think about how I'll feel if I don't accomplish what I want to accomplish.
00:17:18.000 If I don't put in the work, I start freaking out.
00:17:21.000 What's your exact strand?
00:17:22.000 Because that's the one everyone needs.
00:17:24.000 Whatever the strand is you're doing.
00:17:25.000 I like sativas over indicas, but I don't like to get super duper high.
00:17:31.000 It's like drunk.
00:17:32.000 I like two drinks.
00:17:34.000 Two drinks and I go on stage, I'm the life of the party.
00:17:37.000 We're all friends!
00:17:38.000 Come on, what's up?
00:17:40.000 Four drinks, and I'm like, what did I just talk about five minutes ago?
00:17:43.000 Make sure I don't repeat my jokes.
00:17:45.000 Make sure I don't bring up something that I'm not sure where it goes yet.
00:17:49.000 I didn't look at my notes before I went on stage, like, I can't.
00:17:53.000 Four drinks is too much.
00:17:54.000 Or you go, I'll scrap these first four parts of the bit and just do this joke, and you're like, why'd you scrap those?
00:17:58.000 I was like, I don't know, I was drunk, I just jumped right to that part.
00:18:00.000 Pop makes me really consider all the things I'm not doing.
00:18:04.000 It makes me call friends and check in on them.
00:18:06.000 Love that.
00:18:07.000 Yeah, it makes me, like, way more, like, kind and compassionate and friendly.
00:18:13.000 I want to hug people.
00:18:14.000 Mushrooms does that for me.
00:18:15.000 Same thing, yeah.
00:18:16.000 Yeah, that one was, like, a life-changing thing for me.
00:18:19.000 Yeah.
00:18:19.000 Because I was like, I don't know, I'm trying to explain something scientific that I don't know nothing about, but if I had to describe how it felt, it felt like it connected things for me.
00:18:29.000 Where I was like, oh, I need to be a little bit more...
00:18:32.000 I need to work on this, or I need to check in with so-and-so, or I need to let go of that.
00:18:36.000 And that was all because of...
00:18:38.000 I kind of came back a different guy after Mushrooms.
00:18:40.000 Well, I think one of the primary things that it does is it dissolves your ego.
00:18:45.000 And the ego, I think, is the giant cage that we all live in.
00:18:48.000 And you can kind of see the world from outside the cage, but the ego is there protecting you from reality sometimes.
00:18:55.000 The ego is there protecting you from your understanding of your own mistakes, which we all have.
00:19:01.000 And some people bullshit themselves, but they keep it in the back of their head.
00:19:04.000 The ego is what's doing all that for you.
00:19:07.000 And it's doing that as like this little shield, this little character.
00:19:10.000 It's a page that you put in that allows you to move through the world.
00:19:14.000 And Mushrooms just takes that down.
00:19:16.000 And then you just get to see the world for what it really is and see you for where you really are.
00:19:20.000 And then see some of the behaviors that you always regret about yourself.
00:19:25.000 Why am I doing that?
00:19:26.000 What is that?
00:19:27.000 And then you can kind of see the roots of it all.
00:19:30.000 And you see the cause and effect of interactions with people.
00:19:34.000 I remember one time I had a psychedelic experience, and I was closing my eyes, and I saw positive thoughts as a different pattern.
00:19:41.000 Like, I had a negative thought, and the pattern turned, like, dark.
00:19:45.000 And then I had a positive thought, like, oh, no, no, no, don't think negative.
00:19:48.000 And it went, ah, like, flowered open.
00:19:51.000 Love that.
00:19:51.000 These beautiful patterns.
00:19:52.000 And then it was, like, the thing, like, the mushroom was telling me, that's the way to go.
00:19:56.000 Right.
00:19:57.000 That's the way to go.
00:19:57.000 That perception.
00:19:58.000 Yeah, you can lean into negativity if you want to.
00:20:01.000 You want to be a cunt?
00:20:01.000 I love that.
00:20:02.000 There's plenty of cunts out there.
00:20:03.000 Yeah.
00:20:03.000 But there's people out there that are doing that.
00:20:04.000 They're filled with anxiety.
00:20:06.000 It's wrecking their life.
00:20:07.000 Dude.
00:20:07.000 Just nice.
00:20:08.000 People love being wronged.
00:20:11.000 Yeah.
00:20:11.000 It's such a treat for them to hold on to their wrong, the things they've been wronged.
00:20:17.000 And so that's such a great way to describe that.
00:20:20.000 Because really my failures and my flaws and the things I want to work on and all that stuff are the connection.
00:20:27.000 Like when I was able to go, man, I think I really have a problem here and I need some help.
00:20:31.000 People were excited to help me.
00:20:33.000 Right.
00:20:33.000 Because it gave them a chance to help and serve and connect.
00:20:36.000 And so as opposed to me thinking I needed to pretend I didn't have a problem or they wouldn't be my friends, it made them so much better friends knowing like, oh, we can help them.
00:20:44.000 Right.
00:20:45.000 And that's just, I keep using sobriety as an example, but just in general, the connection is that.
00:20:52.000 Connection's everything.
00:20:53.000 Like real connection with people is everything.
00:20:56.000 And you gotta have good people around you.
00:20:59.000 Like this whole idea of being nice and being cool.
00:21:01.000 Some people can't be nice.
00:21:02.000 They're surrounded by assholes.
00:21:04.000 They're surrounded by people that are fucking with them and taking from them and ruining their life and interjecting in their life.
00:21:10.000 And they're just like, ugh, they have to stand up for themselves.
00:21:12.000 But you've got to at least aspire to get into a better situation in life and surround yourself somehow.
00:21:19.000 There's a way.
00:21:20.000 I've done it.
00:21:20.000 You've done it.
00:21:21.000 Surround yourself with nice people.
00:21:23.000 It can be done.
00:21:24.000 Yeah, it can be done.
00:21:25.000 Find a group, find a friend, find a church, find a whatever.
00:21:28.000 And also be that person so that you attract those people.
00:21:32.000 Again, figure it out.
00:21:34.000 I was describing my buddy Chris the other day like what I think the problem is with kind of like modern times.
00:21:40.000 I know that's kind of vague, but it's like I've always seen my life as like I got dealt a card of hands, you know?
00:21:47.000 Some of those cards real good and some of the cards not good, but that's the hand I was dealt.
00:21:51.000 We've all been dealt some hand of cards.
00:21:53.000 A lot of people bad ones, some people really good ones.
00:21:56.000 We've just been dealt a hand.
00:21:57.000 And I thought to myself, how can I play these cards?
00:22:00.000 I didn't start bitching about the rules of poker.
00:22:04.000 I didn't start going, hey dealer, maybe we should change the whole board.
00:22:09.000 All I can do is play my hand.
00:22:13.000 And I think that's kind of how I'm viewing modern times.
00:22:17.000 Where people would rather complain about the rules of poker instead of just playing their hands the best way they could.
00:22:23.000 Well, it's outcasts for the first time get collectively as a group I think?
00:22:40.000 I find, other than white radical, white supremacist Nazis and shit, just you're talking about social issues, the meanest people are the left-wing people for whatever reason.
00:22:49.000 Especially now.
00:22:50.000 And this is not to say there's not some cunts out there that are right-wing people.
00:22:52.000 There's a ton of them.
00:22:53.000 Yeah.
00:22:54.000 But it's commonplace for people who consider themselves good, kind people to say things like punch a Nazi.
00:23:01.000 Right.
00:23:02.000 Right.
00:23:02.000 And then they get to define what a Nazi is and has nothing to do with a swastika, nothing to do with hating Jews.
00:23:07.000 You know, you can just be voted Republican.
00:23:09.000 Oh, you're a fascist.
00:23:10.000 Right.
00:23:10.000 Okay.
00:23:11.000 You tell me, first of all, what does that mean?
00:23:14.000 Yeah.
00:23:14.000 You tell me what that means.
00:23:15.000 Tell me what that word, define that word.
00:23:17.000 You throw that word around so often.
00:23:19.000 Yeah.
00:23:19.000 And there's a lot of definitions of that word, right-wing, authoritarian government, all that stuff.
00:23:27.000 But also, like...
00:23:30.000 Forcing people to behave and think in a certain way.
00:23:33.000 That's what they hate about religion.
00:23:34.000 Yeah.
00:23:35.000 They claim they hate religion because religious people tell them what to think and do.
00:23:38.000 It's a religion.
00:23:38.000 And then they do a religious act of being like a liberal going, if you don't think like me, you must be bad.
00:23:45.000 Racism's their devil.
00:23:46.000 And it's okay to hate the devil, and so they try to hate it.
00:23:49.000 Do you know who Marc Andreessen is?
00:23:50.000 He's a brilliant venture capitalist, super genius guy and been on my podcast a couple times.
00:23:56.000 He broke the whole woke thing down as a religion and explained how you can get excommunicated and cast out and people are fearful of that so they stay inside the lines.
00:24:08.000 There's a doctrine they all follow.
00:24:09.000 They're using race.
00:24:10.000 Because guess what?
00:24:11.000 Who'd want to be friends with a racist?
00:24:13.000 It's not just race.
00:24:14.000 It's also gender.
00:24:14.000 It's also stupid shit.
00:24:16.000 You can be non-binary.
00:24:17.000 If you're a white man, you've got nowhere to go.
00:24:18.000 Hey, I can't even be fucked with.
00:24:22.000 No one's discriminating against me.
00:24:24.000 You can become non-binary.
00:24:26.000 Sure.
00:24:26.000 Oh, great.
00:24:26.000 You can still fuck girls.
00:24:27.000 100%.
00:24:28.000 You just have to say you're a they-them.
00:24:30.000 Well, in my observation, the left used to be really the cool, the progressive side, the nice side, the good side.
00:24:37.000 Whereas to now, I'm like, listen to yourselves.
00:24:40.000 You don't like rich people.
00:24:42.000 You're mad at everyone wealthy.
00:24:43.000 You're mad at the super wealthy.
00:24:45.000 You hate gym bros.
00:24:46.000 You hate frat guys.
00:24:48.000 You hate straight white guys.
00:24:50.000 You hate boomers.
00:24:51.000 You're mad at your grandparents.
00:24:52.000 You seem to not like a lot of people for being the most accepting side.
00:24:59.000 Just completely generalizing.
00:25:01.000 Right.
00:25:01.000 Also, where's our empathy?
00:25:02.000 I think if I ever met like a crazy right-wing, which I never have met any of these Nazis they're talking about, but if I did meet one, I believe that I could have some empathy for them and some sympathy and go, they're just dumb.
00:25:15.000 Yeah.
00:25:16.000 They're not evil.
00:25:17.000 They're just dumb.
00:25:18.000 They can be like convinced otherwise.
00:25:21.000 They're also programmed, right?
00:25:24.000 It's generally they're programmed by the people around them.
00:25:26.000 Yeah.
00:25:27.000 Yeah.
00:25:27.000 But where's our empathy?
00:25:28.000 I watched this documentary on Netflix.
00:25:30.000 It was about like the KKK and the woman who made the documentary was like a kind of a cute Muslim girl.
00:25:35.000 And she like interviewed actual white nationalists and KKK members.
00:25:39.000 And she brings them into this thing.
00:25:40.000 And what I learned from that documentary, what I got from it was that like, oh, they don't even really believe this.
00:25:46.000 They just wanted a group.
00:25:47.000 They wanted a daddy.
00:25:49.000 They wanted someone to like, so they thought to themselves, I can hate black people.
00:25:53.000 I mean, if they're over there, I don't ever have to confront one, and I don't ever have to be...
00:25:58.000 We will meet a black guy, they'll go, well, not you.
00:26:01.000 We're talking about the idea.
00:26:02.000 They're not even talking about that actual person.
00:26:05.000 And the girl in the documentary goes, well, you know that you let me in, and you've been very nice to me, and I'm a Muslim woman.
00:26:10.000 And the guy's like, well, not you.
00:26:11.000 You're a good one.
00:26:12.000 Yeah.
00:26:13.000 So it's because they just wanted a group like you.
00:26:15.000 Right.
00:26:16.000 They just wanted a group like black gang members or Hispanic, MS-19, whatever these groups are.
00:26:21.000 Whatever your little lesbian group is, whatever your baseball team is.
00:26:24.000 I'm in the bowling league.
00:26:25.000 They needed a group.
00:26:26.000 They needed a group.
00:26:27.000 And their group was like, I can hate some people I've never seen before.
00:26:30.000 Yeah.
00:26:30.000 And that's why it's so dangerous, like, groups, like, where they can get entrapped.
00:26:36.000 Because the Governor Whitmer case, do you know that case?
00:26:40.000 Mm-mm.
00:26:41.000 These guys conspired to kidnap the governor of Michigan?
00:26:46.000 Yeah.
00:26:48.000 And there's 14 people involved.
00:26:50.000 12 of them were FBI informants.
00:26:54.000 So he got these two dudes who just wanted to be in a group.
00:26:57.000 Yeah, that's it.
00:26:57.000 Two guys.
00:26:58.000 Hey, man, we're going to kidnap them.
00:27:00.000 We're going to take over the government.
00:27:01.000 Fuck yeah.
00:27:02.000 That's hilarious.
00:27:03.000 Yeah, they just wanted some shit.
00:27:05.000 Red Riders!
00:27:06.000 I'm in.
00:27:07.000 I'm in.
00:27:07.000 What time?
00:27:08.000 They probably had a name for their guy.
00:27:09.000 They were cool.
00:27:11.000 They had a group chat.
00:27:12.000 Probably felt real cool.
00:27:14.000 We're doing it.
00:27:15.000 We're gonna make some change.
00:27:16.000 We're getting the duct tape.
00:27:17.000 Vigilantes.
00:27:18.000 Meanwhile, these two guys thought they were cosplaying, and then they got arrested.
00:27:21.000 Like, I didn't really plan on doing it.
00:27:23.000 It wasn't even my idea.
00:27:25.000 It's tricky.
00:27:26.000 Another problem I've noticed too, like along these lines, is like, let's say we're in a group, let's say we have some group, and then we find out one of the guys in our group did a bad thing.
00:27:34.000 But we gotta pay our bills, right?
00:27:37.000 We got a group, and also we do have kind of camaraderie.
00:27:40.000 So a bad thing groups like to do is cover up for that person.
00:27:43.000 Right.
00:27:43.000 So like, it's not like every Catholic priest, I've heard all your terrible bits at the comedy clubs about the Catholic priests from every comic I know.
00:27:52.000 It's not like all the ones were fine with sexually molesting children.
00:27:57.000 It's just that there were a lot that did, and the church thought, this is not going to look good for us.
00:28:02.000 Let's cover this up.
00:28:04.000 It happens in the military.
00:28:05.000 Sometimes there's some bad guys in the military, and they don't want people to think if you send your daughters to the military, bad things are going to happen.
00:28:12.000 So they kind of internally deal with it.
00:28:15.000 And that's a bad thing that groups do.
00:28:17.000 Even our own government goes, alright, let's find a way to cover that up instead of dealing with this.
00:28:22.000 Because if we just deal with it, it's gonna reflect poorly on the group.
00:28:24.000 What are we gonna do with this obscene client list?
00:28:27.000 Is it really helping the world?
00:28:30.000 Does Mr. Gates need this kind of attention?
00:28:32.000 Exactly.
00:28:33.000 He's out there trying to cure polio.
00:28:34.000 Leave him alone.
00:28:34.000 Exactly.
00:28:35.000 So you start to think, let's protect the group.
00:28:38.000 Right.
00:28:38.000 And we do it in all these ways.
00:28:40.000 I think that that's happened with the LGBTQ +, whatever.
00:28:43.000 I think a lot of gay people are waking up and going, why did we let the trans people in this group?
00:28:47.000 They're making us look terrible.
00:28:49.000 Well, lesbians are having a real problem with it.
00:28:51.000 Because there's a lot of trans men who identify as lesbian.
00:28:54.000 Yes.
00:28:54.000 Or trans women.
00:28:55.000 They say they're a lesbian.
00:28:56.000 And they get on lesbian apps.
00:28:57.000 And these girls are like, I'm looking for a vagina.
00:29:00.000 100%.
00:29:01.000 Yeah.
00:29:01.000 And now they're waking up going, ah, maybe the trans struggle was different than the gay struggle, but we've let them in the group and now...
00:29:08.000 Well, a lot of gay guys think that the movement is homophobic because you're telling a young gay guy, no, you're a woman, you're actually a woman.
00:29:16.000 Which is crazy.
00:29:16.000 Well, it's one of those things that you got to say some people it must be true because it's always been a thing like to have real gender dysphoria to be in your mind feel like a woman has always been a thing even if you're a guy there's more feminine women that feel like women So it's like,
00:29:36.000 that's real.
00:29:37.000 But also, when you encourage that, and you reward people socially for that, and then you have Pride Day at kindergarten, and you're talking about sexual orientation to people that are nowhere near puberty, which is really crazy.
00:29:51.000 And then you start, like...
00:29:55.000 Having people that become trans, all of a sudden they're amazing.
00:29:59.000 Where they were just really mediocre before.
00:30:02.000 Like Bruce Jenner.
00:30:03.000 He was the goof of the Kardashian show.
00:30:06.000 First of all, it makes no sense.
00:30:08.000 No one's accomplished shit.
00:30:09.000 This motherfucker was on the cover of Weedie.
00:30:11.000 He was a star.
00:30:12.000 He was a fucking gold medalist in the decathlon and the goddamn Olympics.
00:30:16.000 He was a stud.
00:30:18.000 He was a stud.
00:30:20.000 And meanwhile, he's on this show with these influencers, and he's just getting nothing.
00:30:25.000 He's just mocked.
00:30:26.000 He's like, I could be a pretty gal.
00:30:28.000 Just openly mocked.
00:30:29.000 He becomes a woman.
00:30:31.000 He's woman of the year in six months.
00:30:33.000 Immediately.
00:30:34.000 In six months, he took over the fucking game.
00:30:37.000 He's a winner.
00:30:38.000 It's like a Chinese autistic kid coming into your math class and fucking up the curve.
00:30:44.000 How did they get here?
00:30:44.000 What's going on here?
00:30:45.000 This guy's a genius.
00:30:46.000 He's got a 287 IQ. This is not fair.
00:30:49.000 He just came in and took over.
00:30:51.000 Superwoman?
00:30:52.000 Everyone loved him until he started saying he was voting for Trump.
00:30:55.000 Yeah, now they hate him.
00:30:56.000 Which was hilarious, like people were saying it's okay to misgender her.
00:31:01.000 This person, call him Caitlyn, call her Caitlyn, whatever.
00:31:06.000 Doesn't seem to care.
00:31:07.000 Right.
00:31:07.000 Like, is fined with you dead-naming her.
00:31:11.000 Like, this is who she is now.
00:31:13.000 Right.
00:31:13.000 She's comfortable in her own skin, 60 years old, out of the closet, the whole deal.
00:31:17.000 Yay!
00:31:18.000 But people are...
00:31:19.000 I saw this thing online where someone was saying, it's okay to misgender Caitlyn Jenner because she voted for Trump.
00:31:27.000 So, okay, so transphobia is okay if someone differs with you politically?
00:31:32.000 It's crazy.
00:31:32.000 Like, what are you doing?
00:31:34.000 I know.
00:31:34.000 You're not being compassionate.
00:31:36.000 You're not being kind.
00:31:37.000 All these things that you said is only with total compliance are you willing to give people this grace.
00:31:42.000 You must have total compliance to our ideology or you're cast out of the kingdom.
00:31:46.000 It's a leverage of power.
00:31:48.000 Even if you're a trans woman, which is at the top of the oppression list, they're above regular poor black people, poor Mexicans, poor immigrants, trans people's at the top of the mountain.
00:31:58.000 They're attacking their own.
00:31:59.000 They're literally cannibalists, just going like, oh, this one didn't fall in line.
00:32:04.000 Didn't fall in line.
00:32:04.000 Throw them out.
00:32:05.000 I also think it's just a big overcorrection.
00:32:08.000 I think humans are guilty of always overcorrecting.
00:32:13.000 So it's like...
00:32:14.000 We were racist, historically.
00:32:17.000 I could go on about that for hours, but let's say that's the idea that we're agreeing with, that historically America was racist.
00:32:24.000 So now the overcorrection is, anything that is racist must be, don't ever even accuse a person of color of something wrong, because we have to so overcorrect, and we have to say how many black friends we have, and say how cool black things are, and don't say that their hair is different, because that would be a racist thing.
00:32:40.000 Or, oh, we used to be homophobic.
00:32:42.000 So now, if a guy sucks a dick, let's give him a parade.
00:32:46.000 Yeah, let's put him in the White House.
00:32:47.000 Let's celebrate hell.
00:32:48.000 Exactly!
00:32:49.000 Let's give him the charge of the fucking guy in the dress who's in charge of nuclear energy.
00:32:53.000 Just let him suck dick.
00:32:53.000 That was stealing women's clothes.
00:32:55.000 Yeah, just let him suck dick.
00:32:56.000 We didn't need him to be in power.
00:32:57.000 That person's not exceptional.
00:32:58.000 Just because they wear a dress.
00:33:00.000 That's crazy.
00:33:01.000 That's a nutty person.
00:33:02.000 You're not virtuous.
00:33:03.000 I think that there's a big difference between just letting someone live their life and being kind to them in society and not treating them different and giving them all the same rights as opposed to celebrating it.
00:33:14.000 I think you're absolutely right.
00:33:16.000 It's just an extreme overcorrection.
00:33:17.000 What we need to do is just let people be themselves.
00:33:20.000 Right.
00:33:20.000 And figure out who that is.
00:33:21.000 But what is weird is when it becomes encouraged.
00:33:26.000 And so then you get, like, with girls in particular, they're very vulnerable.
00:33:31.000 Abigail Schreier wrote a book about this, about how many girls that are on the spectrum get convinced that they're trans.
00:33:37.000 And then the problem is there's some states that allow you I think if you're 15, you can go and get puberty blockers or at the very least you can get testosterone.
00:33:47.000 I know you can do that.
00:33:48.000 Do you know that like Planned Parenthood is like the number one prescriber of testosterone?
00:33:52.000 See if that's true.
00:33:53.000 But I think Planned Parenthood prescribes more testosterone than anybody, which is really crazy if that's true.
00:33:59.000 That's wild.
00:34:00.000 Because I think in some places, they help people with gender transition.
00:34:04.000 So if you're a girl, in some states, you don't even have to be an adult.
00:34:07.000 You can go to them, and you don't have the permission of your parents.
00:34:10.000 I don't know who you have to consult with or what you have to do, but I've heard it's alarmingly easy.
00:34:15.000 And then, now you're on testosterone.
00:34:17.000 And one of the things that testosterone does is it alleviates anxiety.
00:34:20.000 It makes you feel stronger, you feel more alert, more alive, like, this is what I was missing.
00:34:25.000 I was missing testosterone.
00:34:27.000 No, you weren't.
00:34:28.000 I know.
00:34:28.000 No, you weren't.
00:34:29.000 That's not a natural part of your body.
00:34:31.000 You just added something, and now you feel way different, but now you're going to change your voice.
00:34:36.000 And if you grow out of this, and if this is just a phase, well, now you've fucked up your life, and you can't ever have children.
00:34:42.000 Right.
00:34:43.000 It's a big deal.
00:34:43.000 And there's a bunch of those ladies out there.
00:34:45.000 The detransitioners, they're stuck with deep voices for their whole lives.
00:34:49.000 They're stuck with masculine features.
00:34:51.000 They've cut their breasts off.
00:34:53.000 I got in trouble for posting.
00:34:54.000 And they've done it before they're adults.
00:34:56.000 I got in trouble for posting this.
00:34:57.000 Is that true about Planned Parenthood?
00:34:59.000 Hold on.
00:35:00.000 I don't want to get sued.
00:35:03.000 Have you been sued?
00:35:05.000 No.
00:35:05.000 Anybody ever sued you?
00:35:06.000 I did read it in a...
00:35:07.000 I see one article, but I don't know if this is legit.
00:35:11.000 What does it say?
00:35:12.000 It says that, but I'm trying to find out.
00:35:13.000 I don't know.
00:35:14.000 It's the Dallas Express.
00:35:15.000 It doesn't seem like...
00:35:16.000 That's the number one newspaper on the universe.
00:35:19.000 It's gotta be.
00:35:20.000 Everyone's reading that.
00:35:21.000 Plan paired among largest suppliers of testosterone.
00:35:24.000 Right there.
00:35:24.000 In the headlines.
00:35:25.000 Let's see what the numbers are.
00:35:26.000 Do they say numbers?
00:35:27.000 I didn't even get it.
00:35:28.000 800 visits per year to more than 2,500.
00:35:30.000 The whole fucking expression, gender-affirming care, freaks me out, man.
00:35:34.000 I got in trouble for posting this.
00:35:35.000 I said, if genitals don't define gender, how does removing them affirm it?
00:35:40.000 Ooh.
00:35:41.000 That's fucking touche.
00:35:43.000 That's touche.
00:35:44.000 What are we doing?
00:35:46.000 It's really crazy.
00:35:47.000 You said, like, I don't need to have a vagina to be a woman, then why do I need to remove my penis to be a woman?
00:35:52.000 Whoa, back that up again?
00:35:54.000 The number of gender-affirming hormone therapy visits to Planned Parenthood tripled between 2021 and 2023, growing from 800 visits per year to more than 2,500.
00:36:07.000 That's crazy.
00:36:09.000 That shows you that it's a social contagion, and that's Abigail Schreier's position on it.
00:36:15.000 And it's a very compassionate, kind position.
00:36:18.000 Sure.
00:36:18.000 And it's about the future of children and them making decisions when they're very impressionable.
00:36:22.000 And boy, do people attack her.
00:36:24.000 They removed it from bookstores.
00:36:25.000 They called her transphobic just for literally talking about facts and statistics and the numbers have increased and the psychological effect.
00:36:32.000 Like, what's going on with them psychologically?
00:36:34.000 Like, why are they being led?
00:36:36.000 Who are these?
00:36:37.000 What is the actual odds that nine friends all become trans?
00:36:41.000 What are the odds of that?
00:36:42.000 It's almost zero.
00:36:43.000 It's preposterous.
00:36:43.000 It's preposterous.
00:36:45.000 But then again, it is also a real thing.
00:36:49.000 There's always been people that have felt like they should have been a woman.
00:36:53.000 And if you're a grown adult and you want to make that decision, you do whatever you want to do.
00:36:58.000 I've met trans people that say they are very happy with what they've done.
00:37:02.000 Yeah.
00:37:03.000 That's great.
00:37:03.000 I guess.
00:37:04.000 But you gotta know what the fuck that is.
00:37:06.000 And when you're 13, you don't.
00:37:07.000 Yeah, I don't know if I'd encourage it, even in an adult.
00:37:09.000 I know that the correct statement for me right now would be like, just leave our kids alone.
00:37:13.000 But I think that maybe, I don't even want to encourage adults.
00:37:16.000 We just gotta pursue your own things.
00:37:18.000 And I think that's beautiful.
00:37:20.000 And I think that's what our country's about.
00:37:21.000 But in my mind...
00:37:22.000 Find a dude who doesn't care about the dick.
00:37:24.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:37:25.000 If you're a trans woman, find a dude who actually...
00:37:27.000 Find Jim Norton.
00:37:28.000 Oh, yeah, exactly.
00:37:29.000 You can find a Jim Norton.
00:37:30.000 You could have gotten a celebrity.
00:37:31.000 I mean, that's what happened with Jim.
00:37:32.000 He's got a trans woman for a wife.
00:37:34.000 He's happy.
00:37:35.000 He talks about the dick.
00:37:36.000 You know what's crazy about the Jim Norton thing?
00:37:39.000 He's with these tough crowd guys.
00:37:40.000 He's with all my heroes.
00:37:41.000 I've looked up to Jim Norton my whole life.
00:37:42.000 I love Jim Norton.
00:37:43.000 I'm a fan.
00:37:44.000 And then they go, you know, he's married to a trans woman.
00:37:47.000 And I was like, the fuck?
00:37:50.000 And everyone's like, oh, you Jeff and your trans thing.
00:37:53.000 I was like, no, if I know Jim Norton, he wouldn't have got married.
00:37:57.000 That's really what I was shocked about.
00:37:59.000 The institution of marriage he believes in?
00:38:01.000 That's ridiculous!
00:38:03.000 This is Jim Norton!
00:38:03.000 That's the overcorrection.
00:38:04.000 You want to show this is really your wife?
00:38:06.000 You're going to marry her.
00:38:07.000 Whereas all the girlfriends, all the girls with their little stinky vaginas.
00:38:11.000 Get out of here!
00:38:12.000 You're not getting married.
00:38:14.000 You can't take my last name.
00:38:15.000 Fuck off.
00:38:16.000 I'm waiting for a dick.
00:38:19.000 Yeah, it's very crazy, man.
00:38:21.000 That's the overcorrection.
00:38:22.000 But you wouldn't encourage someone, and I know that I'm going to take some hits for this, but you wouldn't encourage someone who believed that their body was fat if it wasn't healthily, you know, like with an eating disorder.
00:38:33.000 I think Tucker Carlson said that.
00:38:34.000 You don't say, oh, you are fat.
00:38:36.000 Yeah, Joe, but I believe I should be, and you go, you're dying, dude.
00:38:40.000 Right.
00:38:40.000 Or it's, no, what he said it about was anorexics.
00:38:43.000 Like, you would never tell an anorexic, oh, you are fat.
00:38:45.000 And that's real.
00:38:46.000 Right.
00:38:46.000 People are really out there believing.
00:38:48.000 They look in the mirror, they're a skeleton.
00:38:49.000 Right.
00:38:49.000 But they look in the mirror and they go, I'm gross, I'm fat.
00:38:52.000 Exactly.
00:38:52.000 You wouldn't encourage it.
00:38:53.000 You would never encourage that.
00:38:54.000 You would treat it.
00:38:55.000 You would say, no, there's something wrong.
00:38:56.000 Correct.
00:38:56.000 You would treat it.
00:38:57.000 I think the other problem is that the whole way they do it, you can't orgasm ever again, okay?
00:39:03.000 And you don't really have a vagina.
00:39:05.000 You have this hole, right?
00:39:07.000 And then you have to keep that hole dilated.
00:39:08.000 You have to stick something inside it.
00:39:09.000 I think it's like lip jobs.
00:39:12.000 Like, don't get the early ones.
00:39:14.000 Wait till they get this down.
00:39:15.000 Don't let people experiment on you by splicing your dick open like a hot dog.
00:39:19.000 Wait!
00:39:20.000 Just hang in there.
00:39:21.000 Wait for the iPod 6. Wait for gene therapy.
00:39:24.000 Because I firmly believe, it might not be in our lifetime, but maybe in our children or our grandchildren's lifetime, gene editing will get to a place where they will be able to turn you into whatever the fuck you want.
00:39:36.000 Right.
00:39:36.000 And it's probably going to be a nightmare, because every guy's going to look like Thor, and every woman's going to look like a prime Jennifer Lopez.
00:39:42.000 It's like, there's not going to be any variations.
00:39:44.000 Everyone's going to be super hot.
00:39:45.000 Right.
00:39:46.000 You're not going to appreciate hot people.
00:39:48.000 Yeah, you will.
00:39:48.000 Big whoop.
00:39:49.000 Yeah, because when a hot woman walks in a room, and there's no other hot woman, everyone's like, whoa.
00:39:54.000 One's here.
00:39:54.000 Look what I got.
00:39:55.000 Look at her.
00:39:57.000 Oh my goodness.
00:39:58.000 What does she look like naked?
00:39:59.000 Right?
00:40:00.000 But if everybody looks like that, it's gonna be commonplace.
00:40:02.000 And I think we're gonna get to a place where every man's gonna look like the Hulk.
00:40:06.000 It's just gonna be just giant dudes.
00:40:08.000 Nerds will for sure.
00:40:09.000 100% they're going to be the first to sign up for that.
00:40:12.000 You know what's interesting?
00:40:13.000 All these fucking dudes that go to the coffee shop and sit there with their legs crossed like this.
00:40:17.000 No working out.
00:40:20.000 Their shoulders slumped.
00:40:22.000 They're going to look like the rock.
00:40:24.000 Just fucking rock!
00:40:28.000 Dude, you know what's interesting about the comic book world?
00:40:31.000 All the guys who, like, they read comics and it's Thor.
00:40:36.000 He's got shoulders like you and biceps like you.
00:40:39.000 Spider-Man, the Hulk.
00:40:41.000 All these dudes that are just fantastic heroes that can give us justice and beat your enemies.
00:40:48.000 But then if they see you at the coffee shop, they go, look at this douchebag.
00:40:51.000 You go, what?
00:40:52.000 I look like your comic books.
00:40:54.000 Like if Joe Rogan walked in, they should be going, holy shit, how does he look like that?
00:40:58.000 I want to look like that.
00:40:59.000 But isn't it also weird that it's like the feeblest men that really love the super powerful men in these fantasies, but not real life.
00:41:07.000 But they don't want to just work out to look like them.
00:41:09.000 Because that's too hard, Jeff.
00:41:11.000 But just do it.
00:41:11.000 Be like your heroes.
00:41:14.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:41:15.000 They look at me weird.
00:41:17.000 Yeah, that's part of it.
00:41:17.000 It's so hard if you're like scrawny and you go to a gym for the first time.
00:41:21.000 It's so disheartening.
00:41:22.000 It's tough.
00:41:22.000 And there's all these girls with those fucking yoga pants on.
00:41:26.000 You might as well be a pile of shit to them.
00:41:29.000 There's all these big jack guys doing squats.
00:41:32.000 That's motivation, baby.
00:41:34.000 And you're sitting there with your little fucking 10-pound dumbbells.
00:41:40.000 My arms.
00:41:43.000 Yeah.
00:41:44.000 And it takes so long to get strong.
00:41:45.000 Guys, if you were slamming weights, you guys love to slam weights.
00:41:48.000 It takes so long to get strong.
00:41:50.000 It takes forever.
00:41:51.000 So many reps.
00:41:52.000 Oh, you got to keep doing it or you shrink.
00:41:55.000 Yeah, you got to come back tomorrow.
00:41:57.000 They go, oh, I got to do this again tomorrow.
00:41:58.000 It's so hard that most people just want to dismiss it.
00:42:01.000 But it's fun.
00:42:02.000 If you could do it in a pill, I would tell to anybody, if I could give you a pill, and that pill would give you more energy throughout the day, you could pick up anything, you could carry things around, you'd never have to worry about yourself physically, you're stronger than most people you meet, you know how to fight,
00:42:17.000 wouldn't you take that pill?
00:42:18.000 Yeah.
00:42:19.000 Well, you can do that pill, stupid.
00:42:20.000 It's called hard work.
00:42:21.000 Absolutely.
00:42:21.000 That's all it is.
00:42:22.000 That's so true, yeah.
00:42:23.000 That's all it is.
00:42:23.000 And it'll change everything for you.
00:42:25.000 Work hard.
00:42:25.000 It'll change everything for you.
00:42:26.000 You know how it's boring to take all those vitamins?
00:42:28.000 Take the vitamins, you fucking retard.
00:42:30.000 But, Joe.
00:42:30.000 Open up the cabinet.
00:42:32.000 We don't all have to.
00:42:33.000 I've got to work at Chipotle.
00:42:34.000 Sure, you've got enough protein and enough fat.
00:42:36.000 Your fucking car's a race car.
00:42:38.000 But Joe, I don't have the free time.
00:42:40.000 I have a family.
00:42:41.000 Everybody has free time.
00:42:42.000 You just choose to do it with other things.
00:42:44.000 You choose to sit there with your fucking phone out, scrolling through Instagram and checking your likes and arguing with people on Twitter.
00:42:50.000 Yeah, that's how I feel.
00:42:51.000 You've got plenty of time to go to McDonald's.
00:42:55.000 There's so much time.
00:42:55.000 David Goggins has that great quote where he says, this guy said to me, the gym membership's too expensive.
00:43:01.000 He goes, you got a motherfucking floor where you live?
00:43:04.000 You got a ground where you're at?
00:43:07.000 Then work out, motherfucker.
00:43:08.000 And I love that kind of mentality of like, you could do a whole workout right there.
00:43:12.000 All you need is a chin-up bar.
00:43:14.000 And you don't even need that.
00:43:15.000 You can get those things that hang on your door.
00:43:17.000 You don't even have to get like a permanent gym.
00:43:19.000 They have good chin-up bars now that like attach to your door frame and they're solid and they hold you in place.
00:43:24.000 You screw them in.
00:43:25.000 They're legit.
00:43:26.000 And all you need is that and push-ups, bodyweight squats, sit-ups.
00:43:30.000 There's a bunch of different yoga exercises you can do.
00:43:32.000 There's rocks outside.
00:43:32.000 You can pick up a rock Free rock.
00:43:34.000 Oh, yeah.
00:43:35.000 It's not a cool kettlebell with a monkey hate on it, but, you know, rocks are heavy.
00:43:40.000 Rocks are awkward, too.
00:43:42.000 Tree branch.
00:43:43.000 Sandbags.
00:43:43.000 I know 7,000 parks by my house that have a bar that you wouldn't have to buy on Amazon.
00:43:47.000 You could just go hang from it.
00:43:48.000 Yeah, those are always good.
00:43:50.000 Monkey bars, those are great.
00:43:51.000 That'll do it.
00:43:52.000 That's the number one way kids break their fucking arms, too.
00:43:54.000 Oh, really?
00:43:55.000 Yeah, my daughter broke her arm on a monkey bar.
00:43:57.000 I broke my arm on a monkey bar.
00:43:58.000 Really?
00:43:58.000 At school?
00:43:59.000 Like, she broke it at school?
00:44:00.000 Yeah, at school.
00:44:00.000 At that school, I was like, boy, that monkey bar is really high off the ground.
00:44:06.000 These fucking kids are seven.
00:44:08.000 This is crazy.
00:44:09.000 I like that, though.
00:44:09.000 And she's a little reckless.
00:44:11.000 Ninja Warrior out there.
00:44:12.000 Yeah.
00:44:12.000 Well, that's what it is.
00:44:13.000 All these kids are just trying to have fun, but they don't understand their limitations yet.
00:44:16.000 That's why it's dangerous to have them in an environment like that.
00:44:19.000 But that's how you learn.
00:44:21.000 When we were kids, they had those domes.
00:44:23.000 Oh, yeah.
00:44:24.000 And you'd climb inside.
00:44:25.000 Kids were always getting concussions.
00:44:28.000 There's foots in it, but they fall this way.
00:44:30.000 They're leaky, rip apart.
00:44:32.000 Those fucking things.
00:44:33.000 What's the dome one?
00:44:33.000 We had an actual circular one that was little triangles.
00:44:37.000 Yeah, we had one of those too, but there was one that was like a half a circle.
00:44:41.000 It was like a dome with all these monkey bars inside of it and shit.
00:44:46.000 That's the one I had.
00:44:47.000 Yeah, we had that.
00:44:48.000 There would always be one bar missing sometimes on the thing.
00:44:51.000 You'd be like, what happened here?
00:44:52.000 Sharp edges.
00:44:54.000 Screws sticking out of it.
00:44:55.000 Yeah.
00:44:55.000 But kids always bang their head.
00:44:57.000 I bang my head a hundred times on those fucking things.
00:44:59.000 It also forces creativity, too, because there's no iPad there.
00:45:03.000 There's no candy crush.
00:45:06.000 So you had to be like, all right, this is our igloo that we're going to protect.
00:45:09.000 I don't know.
00:45:09.000 I wonder if that's good.
00:45:11.000 Everybody wants to look back to the days when everyone was bored and romantically, yeah, you make your own fun.
00:45:18.000 I'm like, I think if I had a video game, it would have been way more fun.
00:45:21.000 Well, we had both.
00:45:22.000 I had the 90s, so we had both.
00:45:24.000 When I was a kid, we would play video games all night.
00:45:27.000 But during the day, there was something fun about wrestling.
00:45:31.000 You know, like the human part of interaction.
00:45:33.000 So we really were making up things with guns and just like shooting each other.
00:45:38.000 Say the best of both worlds.
00:45:39.000 Yeah, we kind of both.
00:45:39.000 But that was before online media or online social media.
00:45:42.000 Oh yeah, we weren't online playing video games either.
00:45:43.000 It was just me versus my buddy.
00:45:45.000 I think the social media thing is the craziest part of it.
00:45:48.000 I think kids are just, first of all, they're weirdly connected, because they all get on Snapchat, and then they have a snap map, so they know where all their friends are at any given time.
00:45:57.000 Yeah.
00:45:58.000 And so they're constantly paying attention to that, and finding each other, and they go in groups, and they go to this party, and, oh, they're at this party, let's go to that party, see them on the maps.
00:46:08.000 Yeah, they're adults.
00:46:09.000 You just described adults.
00:46:10.000 Those aren't even kids anymore.
00:46:11.000 They're little kids that are, like, traveling around with their friends with phones and they only talk through text messages.
00:46:17.000 Yeah, that's adults.
00:46:18.000 Yeah.
00:46:19.000 Which sucks.
00:46:20.000 Fucking weird.
00:46:21.000 It sucks.
00:46:22.000 A weird new life.
00:46:23.000 They still do, like, kids today, they still do physical things, they still do sports, you know, but when we were kids, the thing about Not having any other influences, especially social media influences, you didn't really aspire to be exactly like other people.
00:46:43.000 It's like there was groups of people that you gravitated towards being a jock, you gravitated towards being an artist, but you didn't try to completely copy whatever trend is going on.
00:46:58.000 Nowadays kids, they leave their fucking stupid label on their Nikes.
00:47:03.000 Like, what is that?
00:47:04.000 What is that?
00:47:05.000 Where it's supposed to be cool to keep your fucking label and they're all doing it?
00:47:09.000 Yeah, the tag is like, look, it's a limited edition.
00:47:11.000 It's like, it's not.
00:47:11.000 They made a bunch of those.
00:47:13.000 Oh, that's hilarious.
00:47:14.000 I pulled a knife out.
00:47:15.000 I go, cut that off.
00:47:16.000 I go, what are you, a sheep?
00:47:17.000 Are you a little sheep?
00:47:18.000 You got a fucking tag on your Nikes?
00:47:21.000 And he did, he cut it off.
00:47:21.000 He goes, you're right.
00:47:22.000 I go, I'm right.
00:47:23.000 I fuck yeah, I'm right.
00:47:24.000 Who cares if everyone knows their white label or whatever it is?
00:47:28.000 What is it called?
00:47:29.000 It's called an off-white.
00:47:30.000 It means that it has that red tag on it.
00:47:32.000 Stupid.
00:47:33.000 Cut it off right in the green room.
00:47:36.000 That's a daddy moment for him.
00:47:37.000 I give him a knife.
00:47:38.000 You said, hey, I'm dad here.
00:47:40.000 This is nonsense.
00:47:42.000 You are not doing this.
00:47:44.000 I love that.
00:47:44.000 You're not going to have a propeller on your hat.
00:47:46.000 Keep a sticker on the thing.
00:47:49.000 Take that propeller off your fucking hat.
00:47:51.000 Grow up.
00:47:52.000 You don't have to have that label.
00:47:54.000 When I was a kid, dudes would have labels on their hats.
00:47:57.000 I hate that.
00:47:57.000 They'd buy new hats and they'd leave the tag.
00:48:00.000 Or the sticker on the bill is one of my biggest pet peeves.
00:48:03.000 The sticker on the bill is stupid.
00:48:04.000 Take that sticker off.
00:48:05.000 Take the sticker off.
00:48:05.000 Why do you have that shiny, stupid sticker?
00:48:08.000 Makes no sense to me.
00:48:08.000 That's dumb.
00:48:09.000 Yeah.
00:48:10.000 I think that one thing that I do look backwards and think about, and this is a mushroom thought for sure, this came to me, you know, whereas like, My mom would go, why do you need these expensive shoes for school?
00:48:24.000 And I didn't have the intelligence at the time to explain it to her now, but now I look back and I wish I would have said, Mom, my whole social structure is based on this.
00:48:34.000 Because I don't have the internet, which would later come out.
00:48:36.000 I don't have these things.
00:48:39.000 At least in the 90s and the late 80s when I was growing up, Amber Shoemaker was the hottest girl at our school, which meant Amber Shoemaker's the hottest woman in our universe.
00:48:49.000 I didn't go online and go, well, Amber's not...
00:48:51.000 I didn't have anyone else.
00:48:52.000 That's the hottest girl.
00:48:53.000 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:48:54.000 The coolest guy in our school, Anthony Medina, was the coolest guy in the world, because that's our world.
00:48:58.000 Whereas kids now could go, who gives a shit about Anthony Medina?
00:49:01.000 I'm following LeBron.
00:49:03.000 So like, we had our own little realities.
00:49:06.000 You know, so it's like, I didn't give a shit about the bulls necessarily, but if Mike Jensen from my school said the bulls are cool, I liked the bulls.
00:49:15.000 I didn't have anywhere to escape to.
00:49:17.000 I need to do what I can, and I think even before me was probably even better than that.
00:49:22.000 I think like when cowboys roamed the earth, that might have been number one.
00:49:26.000 You don't think so?
00:49:27.000 Because here's why, hear me out.
00:49:30.000 Let's say we're cowboys.
00:49:31.000 We're on the ridge line.
00:49:33.000 Cowboys.
00:49:35.000 Sun's going down.
00:49:36.000 Yeah, sun's going down.
00:49:37.000 Kind with a house?
00:49:38.000 Yeah.
00:49:39.000 No, no, but we have a house, but we're now on the ridge line with our horses.
00:49:42.000 Oh, we're on the road.
00:49:43.000 A few days.
00:49:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:49:44.000 On the trail.
00:49:45.000 And say, hey, buddy, sun's going down.
00:49:47.000 Let's make a fire.
00:49:47.000 Okay.
00:49:48.000 But we gotta brush the horses.
00:49:49.000 We gotta do our shit.
00:49:50.000 We're eating our can.
00:49:51.000 We see all these twinkling lights out there.
00:49:54.000 We got a picture of our lady in our wallet.
00:49:56.000 Like, oh man, I can't wait to get home to her.
00:49:58.000 You know, say some dirty things about her.
00:49:59.000 And then I would eat my beans.
00:50:01.000 And then I'd say, I wonder what everyone's doing out there.
00:50:05.000 I would just wonder.
00:50:06.000 Yeah, that is a really cute version of what it meant like to be a cowboy.
00:50:10.000 Here's what it really was like.
00:50:11.000 You would stay up and I would sleep because we don't want anybody raping and killing us in the middle of the night.
00:50:18.000 Because the Indians have been following us for miles and we don't know they've been following us.
00:50:22.000 That would be reversed, by the way.
00:50:23.000 You'd stay up and I'd sleep.
00:50:25.000 We're too stupid to cold camp.
00:50:26.000 Okay, so we started a fire, which makes you really easy to spot.
00:50:30.000 And they just wait until that fire starts getting dim and they hear snoring.
00:50:33.000 And they come in, and they cut you up, and they fuck you, and they do whatever they want.
00:50:37.000 No, you're supposed to stay awake and slaughter them.
00:50:40.000 Well, I mean, there's only two of us.
00:50:42.000 There's like seven or eight of them.
00:50:43.000 And, you know, back in the musket days, there was a lot of reloading time.
00:50:48.000 I get one of them.
00:50:50.000 That's why the Comanches dominated this area, because they were using single-shot guns.
00:50:56.000 But you know that's racist.
00:50:57.000 They were just sitting here peacefully.
00:50:59.000 The Comanches, they were not.
00:51:01.000 The Comanches had multiple arrows on their fingers, so they'd keep like four or five arrows, and they would shoot one, and they'd shoot another one, and they'd shoot another one.
00:51:09.000 They were just fucking these dudes up.
00:51:11.000 I bet it.
00:51:12.000 The only thing that saved this entire state, the only reason why people were able to conquer, was the Colt pistol.
00:51:17.000 Right.
00:51:17.000 When they figured out how to make a pistol with like a chamber, it was Colt, right?
00:51:21.000 Wasn't it?
00:51:22.000 I think it was Colt.
00:51:23.000 So they developed, believe this or not, at the time, the military didn't want.
00:51:29.000 Really?
00:51:29.000 They're like, what are we doing with these six shots?
00:51:31.000 We got one shot.
00:51:31.000 Really?
00:51:32.000 Good enough.
00:51:32.000 Yeah.
00:51:33.000 I didn't know that.
00:51:33.000 I couldn't sell them.
00:51:34.000 That's ridiculous.
00:51:34.000 He sold them to the Texas Rangers.
00:51:36.000 Oh, that's amazing.
00:51:37.000 Jack Smith, that guy who's out in the hallway, that photograph, that's why he's there.
00:51:41.000 That's the original Texas Rangers.
00:51:42.000 Why wouldn't they want more bullets quicker, accessibly?
00:51:46.000 Because it's the government.
00:51:47.000 They've always been retarded.
00:51:48.000 Yeah, that's ridiculous.
00:51:49.000 They were even retarded in the 1800s.
00:51:50.000 More bullets.
00:51:51.000 So this was a novel invention.
00:51:53.000 This guy figured out a revolver.
00:51:54.000 And it was like, you had to take the cylinder out, put a new cylinder in.
00:51:57.000 But every time he did, he had five or six.
00:51:59.000 Was it six shots or five?
00:52:01.000 So it was the first time ever you could fire multiple times.
00:52:03.000 They just started fucking up these Indians.
00:52:05.000 Yeah, that was protection.
00:52:06.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:52:07.000 That's great.
00:52:07.000 But it's these guys that, like, they dressed like Indians.
00:52:10.000 They fucking infiltrated.
00:52:12.000 They cold camped.
00:52:13.000 They would go deep, deep, deep into, like, uncharted territories.
00:52:16.000 Those were probably just bad guys pretending to be Indians to make the Indians look bad.
00:52:20.000 Oh, no, no, no.
00:52:21.000 They were bad guys.
00:52:23.000 Just kidding.
00:52:23.000 But they were bad guys to go after the Indians.
00:52:25.000 Yeah.
00:52:26.000 They were bad guys.
00:52:27.000 But so were the fucking Indians.
00:52:29.000 Oh, for sure.
00:52:30.000 They were bad to each other.
00:52:31.000 Exactly.
00:52:31.000 That's why I always get so mad about the debate about like, well, you came here, like white people came here and did bad.
00:52:36.000 It's like, dude, you think that they weren't all fighting for land here?
00:52:39.000 They weren't just fighting.
00:52:41.000 They didn't ever, ever, ever surrender.
00:52:45.000 Yeah, there was lots of tribes.
00:52:46.000 Because if they surrendered, they were tortured and murdered.
00:52:48.000 The Comanches used to chop dudes' arms off and legs off and then throw them while they were still alive on a roaring fire and watch them squirm around.
00:52:57.000 It was fun.
00:52:58.000 They were having a good time.
00:53:00.000 I meant mentally, earlier from my early analogy of the cute cowboy stuff.
00:53:03.000 No, no, no, no.
00:53:04.000 No, no, what I was saying is that mentally we didn't compare.
00:53:07.000 It was dangerous, dude.
00:53:09.000 I know, I believe, I hear you.
00:53:10.000 It was terrifying.
00:53:10.000 All that home on the range shit is straight up horse shit.
00:53:12.000 No, what I mean is they didn't compare.
00:53:15.000 Oh, right, because they were, you hear that sound?
00:53:17.000 You had too many real things.
00:53:18.000 Someone's raping an Indian lady.
00:53:20.000 Right.
00:53:20.000 You hear that?
00:53:21.000 You fucking, you hear gunshots and children screaming.
00:53:25.000 You wouldn't think, oh...
00:53:27.000 So what that Jeff dies with me?
00:53:30.000 So what that he's funny?
00:53:31.000 He's no Dave Chappelle.
00:53:33.000 You didn't compare.
00:53:35.000 But they did, like Billy the Kid.
00:53:37.000 Like, people became famous.
00:53:39.000 They became infamous.
00:53:40.000 These people that everybody wanted to be like Billy the Kid.
00:53:42.000 Well, that was one guy that we'd try to be like.
00:53:44.000 Right now, I'd go, big deal, Billy the Kid.
00:53:46.000 There's a guy in Japan that can shoot 70. Like, the phone makes you have 7 million.
00:53:50.000 You don't even appreciate your wife learning guitar because you go, she's no Bob Dylan.
00:53:55.000 You know, who gives a shit?
00:53:56.000 So that's what I was trying to say.
00:53:58.000 That sounds like a really shitty husband.
00:53:59.000 That guy's mean, but he's thinking that.
00:54:01.000 You're not even here to clap, bitch.
00:54:02.000 He's thinking that.
00:54:03.000 What the fuck?
00:54:04.000 She just started.
00:54:05.000 Give her a break, dude.
00:54:07.000 Yeah.
00:54:07.000 But I meant mentally we didn't compare.
00:54:09.000 I think we are not designed for it, but I think kids will be.
00:54:13.000 I think the human mind is going to adapt to technology and interacting with each other.
00:54:18.000 And I think socially people are adapting to interacting with each other.
00:54:22.000 You know, like, the way kids, like, go after each other online, like, they're adapted to it.
00:54:27.000 It's normalized to them.
00:54:29.000 Just like, you know, if you live in a war-torn part of the world, seeing dead people, it normalizes to you.
00:54:35.000 And I think kids are normalizing to electronics.
00:54:37.000 And people want to resist that, and they want to say, I don't let my kids use electronics.
00:54:41.000 I'm like...
00:54:43.000 It's a part of the world.
00:54:44.000 I use it.
00:54:44.000 It's a part of the world.
00:54:45.000 It's not a barrier to being a good person.
00:54:48.000 It's not a barrier to living a happy, healthy life.
00:54:51.000 Yeah.
00:54:51.000 Just like alcohol is not a barrier.
00:54:53.000 For some people it is.
00:54:54.000 Right.
00:54:54.000 Some people have a real fucking problem with social media, and you see a lot of comics, especially the unsuccessful ones, when they start falling apart when they get older, it just exacerbates their mental illness.
00:55:05.000 And then it becomes all politics.
00:55:08.000 Yeah.
00:55:08.000 These guys used to talk about farts and getting their dick sucked.
00:55:11.000 Now it's all politics.
00:55:13.000 And it's all like life hangs on every decision.
00:55:16.000 And we're doomed if this takes place.
00:55:20.000 Doomed!
00:55:20.000 You know what a comedian dude does that is Kathy Griffin.
00:55:24.000 That guy doesn't lie.
00:55:25.000 Oh, you know what I mean.
00:55:27.000 You just misgendered.
00:55:29.000 That guy's unhinged.
00:55:31.000 You go on there, it's all day, just some doom and gloom.
00:55:34.000 Do you think that that's because that's how they find meaning in an otherwise meaningless existence?
00:55:40.000 What is it about people where their entire life becomes completely wrapped around politics to the point where they're tweeting about it literally all day long and saying these things that they think are profound About all kinds of different issues.
00:55:55.000 I think it's got to be some sort of virtue signaling.
00:55:58.000 Like it's their way to go, look at how good I am.
00:56:00.000 It's also a way to show that you're relevant.
00:56:04.000 You know, you're talking about the things that people care about right now and you're chiming in and saying the things that need to be said.
00:56:10.000 You're being heard.
00:56:11.000 Yeah.
00:56:11.000 You know, there's a lot of like weird, there's a lot of just, they want attention.
00:56:15.000 There's a narcissism to a lot of it.
00:56:18.000 But then there's also people that are capable of going online and having interesting discussions with people they don't know.
00:56:23.000 And if you can manage that, you can actually get a lot out of like Twitter and X and all these different ways.
00:56:29.000 100%.
00:56:29.000 You can get a lot out of it.
00:56:31.000 You can get a lot.
00:56:32.000 But it's so hard to do.
00:56:33.000 I know.
00:56:34.000 Because it's like you're deciphering smoke signals.
00:56:39.000 It's like the person's not even in front of you.
00:56:41.000 You're getting these weird interactions with people.
00:56:45.000 What does this guy mean by that?
00:56:46.000 Is he being shitty?
00:56:47.000 Is he just being honest?
00:56:48.000 What is this?
00:56:49.000 Yeah, it's very tough to translate their...
00:56:53.000 It's a sucky way to communicate.
00:56:54.000 What are they doing?
00:56:55.000 Were they trying to be funny right there?
00:56:57.000 Yeah.
00:56:57.000 Yeah, it's very tricky.
00:56:59.000 Well, I'm very lucky in that I get to talk to so many interesting people.
00:57:02.000 So I don't need to have as many interesting conversations online with people.
00:57:06.000 Yeah, and also you're a comedian.
00:57:07.000 My favorite thing about being a comedian is I get heard a lot.
00:57:10.000 Yeah.
00:57:10.000 We get to be heard.
00:57:12.000 That helps.
00:57:12.000 Even when I'm wrong, I get to be heard.
00:57:15.000 You can be wrong and still funny.
00:57:16.000 Yeah, that's the beauty of it.
00:57:17.000 That was Patrice's whole act.
00:57:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:57:20.000 100%.
00:57:21.000 I'm often sometimes wrong and it's just so funny.
00:57:23.000 They go, oh yeah, like I like this guy.
00:57:25.000 If it's funny, and also this part of being wrong on purpose.
00:57:28.000 Sure.
00:57:28.000 I say things that I know is wrong on purpose because it's funny.
00:57:31.000 It's funny to say.
00:57:32.000 You're going for the laugh first.
00:57:33.000 Yeah, I'm just trying to be silly.
00:57:34.000 I'm trying to be silly.
00:57:35.000 That's what I like.
00:57:36.000 That's the kind of comedy I like.
00:57:38.000 Right.
00:57:39.000 So I'm going to do that and you can like it or you don't like it.
00:57:42.000 100%.
00:57:42.000 What infuriates me It's when people try to take jokes or talking shit and just conflate it and pretend that it's a statement.
00:57:52.000 I know.
00:57:53.000 It drives me crazy.
00:57:54.000 Do you not have any friends?
00:57:55.000 I know.
00:57:56.000 Do you not have any friends?
00:57:57.000 You don't joke?
00:57:58.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:57:58.000 You don't pretend.
00:57:59.000 You don't joke around?
00:57:59.000 You wonder why all these comics want to go to the right.
00:58:01.000 It's because freedom of speech is a pretty big deal to us.
00:58:04.000 Yeah.
00:58:04.000 Naturally, it's a pretty big deal that we can say whatever we want.
00:58:07.000 Because here's the thing.
00:58:08.000 Racism is bad.
00:58:09.000 Yeah.
00:58:09.000 But it is kind of funny sometimes.
00:58:11.000 Yeah.
00:58:11.000 It's very funny when it's about white people.
00:58:14.000 Sexism is bad, but it's pretty funny sometimes.
00:58:16.000 Sometimes!
00:58:16.000 Yeah.
00:58:16.000 If it's well made.
00:58:17.000 Yeah, it's funny.
00:58:18.000 If it's funny enough.
00:58:19.000 A good meme?
00:58:19.000 A solid meme?
00:58:20.000 Great.
00:58:20.000 Love it.
00:58:21.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:58:22.000 Things are funny.
00:58:23.000 And people go, well, that's racist.
00:58:24.000 You go, well, and it's racial, and it's funny, but don't just assume that it's this blanketly bad thing.
00:58:30.000 Yeah, it's such a silly...
00:58:31.000 Like, it's funny no matter who gets it.
00:58:33.000 It's funny if white guys get it.
00:58:35.000 It's funny if white women get it.
00:58:37.000 It's funny if Indian guys get it.
00:58:39.000 Things are funny when people get it.
00:58:41.000 When they get them jokes, it's funny.
00:58:43.000 And they don't care about the racial stuff when it's like a comic of any other race doing it.
00:58:48.000 Right.
00:58:48.000 You're like, if you're going to use that same measuring stick, go to the Laugh Factor.
00:58:51.000 You could cancel all 12 comedians that are on stage making easy racial remarks.
00:58:55.000 But they're like, but he's Persian.
00:58:56.000 I know, but it's still a racial remark.
00:58:59.000 Especially if you're cracking on white people.
00:59:01.000 You could crack on white people as hard as you want right now.
00:59:03.000 It's great.
00:59:04.000 Which is so vague, too.
00:59:05.000 I don't know if this is a smart idea or not, but it's something I always think.
00:59:08.000 It's so vague.
00:59:10.000 These shitty comics like Hari Kondabulu are like, white people, white people.
00:59:13.000 What white people?
00:59:15.000 Which ones?
00:59:15.000 French?
00:59:16.000 Canadian?
00:59:17.000 Do Jews count?
00:59:19.000 Croatian?
00:59:20.000 What a great lump you've done.
00:59:22.000 All white?
00:59:23.000 You know how many countries that covers?
00:59:25.000 And then you go, well, that's why we're saying it, because we don't mean a specific country.
00:59:29.000 We're talking about...
00:59:30.000 So then that's racist.
00:59:32.000 You go, well, white's not a race.
00:59:33.000 It's just a color of...
00:59:35.000 Well, then how come black is a race?
00:59:38.000 Because black would be Haiti.
00:59:40.000 It would be tons of parts of Africa.
00:59:43.000 You know, so...
00:59:44.000 I guess my point is, then it's not racist when I say black, if it's not racist when you say white, because you're over-glomming a big thing.
00:59:52.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous.
00:59:53.000 Also, how much do white people vary?
00:59:56.000 There's so many white people!
00:59:58.000 They vary so much!
00:59:59.000 It's so vague!
01:00:00.000 To just say white men.
01:00:01.000 Oh, you must be rich because you're white.
01:00:03.000 You're like, do you know how many poor white people there are?
01:00:05.000 Go to Kentucky.
01:00:06.000 Most of them are poor.
01:00:07.000 Yeah, go to where the fucking coal mines are.
01:00:11.000 Those coal mining communities where people have just been popping pills since the 80s.
01:00:15.000 Meth?
01:00:15.000 You've never heard of white trash?
01:00:17.000 Like, we dominate the poor community.
01:00:18.000 Have you ever seen the wild and wonderful whites of West Virginia?
01:00:21.000 Yeah, dude, Jesco White.
01:00:22.000 Fucking amazing.
01:00:23.000 Those dancing skills?
01:00:25.000 Didn't Johnny Knoxville produce that?
01:00:27.000 That's how I saw it.
01:00:28.000 I don't know if it was Johnny Knoxville, but Jack Hole Productions or whatever it was.
01:00:31.000 Yeah, I think Knoxville made that.
01:00:33.000 It's fucking incredible.
01:00:35.000 Amazing.
01:00:35.000 But that's white people, too.
01:00:37.000 Yeah.
01:00:38.000 Okay?
01:00:38.000 These poor white people, they're just victims of their environment, man.
01:00:43.000 They're teaching college kids that, like, if you're a stray white guy, they just hand you suitcases full of money, and that you have no troubles, and the cops don't target you.
01:00:51.000 It's like, cops...
01:00:52.000 Did you see what Trump said today?
01:00:53.000 I'll send this to you, Jamie, because this is wild.
01:00:56.000 This is a wild move.
01:00:58.000 I'll send this to you, Jamie.
01:00:59.000 It is what he said about colleges...
01:01:02.000 Oh, I love it.
01:01:03.000 ...and DEI endowments.
01:01:05.000 I love it.
01:01:06.000 I'll send this to you, Jamie.
01:01:09.000 He's doing so much crazy shit because he only has one term.
01:01:14.000 All the different things that he's said so far about completely banning all of these gender transition clinics for kids, hormone therapies for kids, puberty blockers for kids.
01:01:29.000 Stop that.
01:01:30.000 And he even called them out for the expression, gender-affirming care.
01:01:35.000 That's a crazy...
01:01:37.000 Like a literal dystopian euphemism for what you're doing.
01:01:42.000 And he said Marxists multiple times.
01:01:44.000 And people are going to go, they're not Marxists.
01:01:45.000 Do you know BLM self-proclaimed themselves as Marxists?
01:01:50.000 So you can find hundreds of times where they say, we are Marxists.
01:01:54.000 So before anybody comments, well, they're not really, they've called themselves Marxists.
01:01:59.000 Yes.
01:02:00.000 I think a lot of people like blanketly support that just because it seems like a smart idea.
01:02:05.000 Yeah.
01:02:06.000 Black Lives Matter.
01:02:06.000 Of course they do.
01:02:07.000 Yeah.
01:02:07.000 There's cops that have killed people.
01:02:09.000 We've seen it.
01:02:10.000 Okay.
01:02:10.000 Yeah.
01:02:10.000 It's definitely good to support that.
01:02:12.000 But then you find out all the other stuff behind it.
01:02:14.000 And then you find out that the people that were running it were fucking buying real estate.
01:02:18.000 Do a little homework.
01:02:19.000 They gave all your money to trans people.
01:02:21.000 They didn't help the black community at all.
01:02:22.000 Is not only going to tax, but confiscate endowments of every university the Department of Justice finds has engaged in illegal discrimination under the guise of equity, which is basically every university in the country, but is especially true with the Ivy League, which is, if this happens,
01:02:38.000 will die.
01:02:39.000 They will crush...
01:02:42.000 But this is, you know who suffers the most from this discrimination, from discrimination, is Asian people.
01:02:49.000 Do you know why?
01:02:50.000 No.
01:02:51.000 Because Asian people score so high and they work so hard, they make it more difficult for them to get it.
01:02:57.000 They have to have higher grades and they have to have a higher score.
01:03:00.000 They score them based on social interactions.
01:03:03.000 Which is crazy.
01:03:04.000 If you're studying 18 hours a day, like a lot of these Asians do.
01:03:07.000 I'm going to win.
01:03:08.000 Yeah, well, it's their culture.
01:03:09.000 Their culture is this, like, nose to the grindstone, hard work, disciplined culture.
01:03:14.000 I had a buddy of mine...
01:03:15.000 And no one in America is mad at them for succeeding.
01:03:17.000 We encourage it.
01:03:18.000 It's good.
01:03:19.000 I had a buddy of mine that was a national Taekwondo champion while he was going through his medical residency.
01:03:26.000 He was Korean, and no matter what he did, this guy won the Nationals.
01:03:30.000 He was the National Taekwondo Champion.
01:03:33.000 And he wasn't, like, talented either.
01:03:35.000 It wasn't like he was like...
01:03:36.000 Hard work.
01:03:36.000 It was 100% hard work.
01:03:38.000 Yeah.
01:03:39.000 And this fucking guy, like, would work all day long at school and then put his books in his backpack and walk up stairs to get a workout in.
01:03:48.000 I love it.
01:03:49.000 He would just do flights of stairs over and over again while he was at school, because he had to do something, and then go back to school.
01:03:54.000 Won the fucking Nationals like that.
01:03:56.000 Yeah.
01:03:56.000 And that's beautiful.
01:03:57.000 It's this kind of crazy work ethic that some Asian households instill in their children, and it's tough to compete with them.
01:04:04.000 So what they've done is they've—there's been lawsuits about it.
01:04:07.000 I believe Harvard was sued, right?
01:04:09.000 Was Harvard sued that they were discriminating against Asian Americans?
01:04:12.000 So they have, like, ways that what they're saying is—what they were complaining was that there's ways that they have that Like, accentuate certain attributes that let you get in, like social things that you do,
01:04:28.000 different things that you do, that give you extra points.
01:04:30.000 They felt like it was designed just to keep less Asian people in.
01:04:34.000 Crazy.
01:04:35.000 To push some of them out, because so many of them were getting in there and dominating.
01:04:39.000 Yeah.
01:04:41.000 Dominating.
01:04:41.000 Yeah, but that's great.
01:04:42.000 Yes!
01:04:42.000 Well, listen man, if you come from a hard-working household and you develop that work ethic, you might not be happy.
01:04:50.000 That's part of the problem.
01:04:51.000 Yeah, well, I like that they complain about their tiger moms and you're like, dude, they made you successful.
01:04:55.000 Right.
01:04:56.000 You gotta figure out how to be happy.
01:04:58.000 Right, that's up for you to do.
01:04:59.000 This is it, the lawsuit, a threat to...
01:05:01.000 What happened?
01:05:02.000 An organization created by anti-race conscious admissions activist Edward Blum citing itself students for fair admissions sued Harvard alleging that the university discriminates against Asian Americans and seeking to prevent Harvard College and other colleges and universities from using a wide-ranging and thorough admissions process that considers the whole person.
01:05:23.000 Love that.
01:05:24.000 Interesting.
01:05:25.000 So that's interesting, though, because on paper, that sounds like a good thing.
01:05:32.000 A wide-ranging and thorough admissions process that considers the whole person.
01:05:35.000 If you want to educate a child, you want a kid to go from being a young teenager to being an adult, and you're educating them, there is a social aspect to it.
01:05:47.000 You don't want to develop complete sociopaths that just go to work.
01:05:51.000 But you can't also stop that option.
01:05:57.000 People want a quality of outcome.
01:06:00.000 It's a very important point.
01:06:01.000 But there's not a quality of effort.
01:06:03.000 There just isn't.
01:06:04.000 And in the mad dog race of life, you're occasionally going to get a Michael Jordan.
01:06:08.000 You're going to get a guy who works harder than everybody, and he's gifted, and he's going to exceed.
01:06:13.000 He's going to pass you all.
01:06:14.000 And there's nothing you can do about it.
01:06:15.000 Nothing you can do about Mike Tyson when he was 22 years old.
01:06:18.000 Get the fuck out of the way.
01:06:19.000 Pick up tennis.
01:06:21.000 He's gonna kill you.
01:06:22.000 He's gonna kill you.
01:06:23.000 You wanna be number two, maybe?
01:06:24.000 If you wanna be number two, you're eventually gonna get to have fight number one, and that's not gonna be a lot of fun.
01:06:30.000 The world's not fair, right?
01:06:33.000 And that guy, when you saw the way he trained when he was a young man, he trained like a person possessed.
01:06:39.000 He lived and watched film all day.
01:06:40.000 Yeah.
01:06:41.000 He was obsessed with fighting.
01:06:42.000 That's all he had.
01:06:43.000 And talented and gifted.
01:06:44.000 So if you have those things all together, the world is not fair.
01:06:48.000 Yeah.
01:06:49.000 And you can't make it fair with laws, and you can't make it fair with rules, and it doesn't make you any better to suppress someone in some sort of a way.
01:06:57.000 By diminishing their success.
01:06:59.000 And that includes someone who's a fucking complete psychopath who studies 18 hours a day and dominates and starts a business when they're 19 and becomes a billionaire by the time they're 26 and then all of a sudden buys Twitter from Elon Musk.
01:07:11.000 You can't stop that.
01:07:12.000 Ask one of these crazy people who doesn't understand these kind of things or has never even thought of it.
01:07:17.000 Yeah.
01:07:17.000 Say, oh, you know, I noticed you're watching the WNBA game.
01:07:20.000 Do you think it's unfair that Brittany Griner makes more than her teammates?
01:07:24.000 And they'll go, no, she's the best.
01:07:27.000 Right.
01:07:28.000 Right.
01:07:28.000 Right.
01:07:29.000 That's the thing.
01:07:30.000 Just like anyone else that's the best.
01:07:32.000 Yeah.
01:07:33.000 Makes more money.
01:07:34.000 How can you understand that Brittney Griner makes more than her teammates, but you can't understand that the NBA generates more money and is better, makes more than the WNBA? How can you in-brain?
01:07:46.000 Well, what people get scared of is the amount of control and power that you have with that kind of money.
01:07:50.000 And then some people want to make decisions for all of us.
01:07:53.000 Like Bill Gates.
01:07:54.000 Like one of the wackiest ones, he's talking about blocking the sun, putting particles in the sky to block the sun to cool the earth.
01:08:00.000 Hey, fuckhead, there's a whole lot of people on earth.
01:08:04.000 You don't get to say for all of us.
01:08:06.000 You don't get to talk for all of us just because you have a hundred billion dollars.
01:08:09.000 That's crazy talk.
01:08:10.000 That's what people are scared of.
01:08:12.000 What people are scared of is that when you really do have ultimate money and ultimate power, With most people, there's this desire to control people.
01:08:20.000 It's part of the gig.
01:08:22.000 And some of them, when they decide they don't want to go into politics, they start influencing things behind the scenes.
01:08:28.000 Lobby.
01:08:29.000 They start donating.
01:08:29.000 They have funds.
01:08:31.000 They have a giant fund in their fund.
01:08:33.000 It donates to all these different organizations, and in Bill Gates' case, it prevented them from criticizing him, because the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, they donate all this money to these media corporations and all these companies.
01:08:45.000 Look at all the money we've given you to help global health and whatever the fuck it is.
01:08:49.000 But what it really does is it buys off people from criticizing you.
01:08:53.000 And then you start doing wild shit, like telling everybody they should eat plant-based food and fucking buy all the farmland.
01:08:58.000 Whatever they want you to do, yeah.
01:08:59.000 You start controlling people.
01:09:01.000 It's like people like to pull strings on people.
01:09:04.000 The George Soroses of the world.
01:09:06.000 This scares me so much.
01:09:06.000 Get DAs elected and then put an even more progressive DA to go in after him and see if he can fuck with things by letting people out of jail and defunding the cops.
01:09:16.000 It's like they're playing these weird Monopoly games with the whole world.
01:09:20.000 You know where you saw it?
01:09:21.000 A great example was when Barack Obama got into office, Michelle Obama's whole thing was nutrition.
01:09:26.000 That was what she was going to really work on.
01:09:28.000 And dude, it was almost like after two weeks, someone brought her in the bag and was like, listen, bitch.
01:09:34.000 We hear what you're saying about the food industry.
01:09:36.000 I don't know if you know how much bread we're putting in your husband's pockets.
01:09:39.000 And then she immediately was like, maybe fitness.
01:09:42.000 Maybe your kids could run around 10 minutes a day.
01:09:44.000 How about that?
01:09:44.000 Is that better?
01:09:45.000 She gave up the food stuff?
01:09:46.000 Gave up the food stuff.
01:09:46.000 It just was immediately...
01:09:48.000 What is that, Jamie?
01:09:51.000 Is that the same thing?
01:09:52.000 No, I didn't have it muted.
01:09:53.000 I wasn't supposed to play it.
01:09:54.000 Oh, sorry.
01:09:54.000 But then it was like all of it, all the focus went towards, hey, just 10 minutes a day, have your kids go outside and play.
01:10:00.000 It was all the food stuff gone.
01:10:02.000 Wow.
01:10:03.000 Yeah, and you realize, oh, there are other things.
01:10:07.000 You know, there's like all these other things that are at play.
01:10:09.000 It's not just other things.
01:10:10.000 It's...
01:10:12.000 Billions and billions of dollars.
01:10:15.000 When you're that far ahead of the game, you know, if you're playing a game and you cannot beat the game, there's no way to beat it.
01:10:23.000 You're on level one.
01:10:23.000 There's a million levels.
01:10:25.000 The people that have been playing it, that you're playing against, they've been playing for 30 years.
01:10:29.000 They have all the armor.
01:10:30.000 They've got all the magic spells.
01:10:32.000 You're not going to win that game.
01:10:33.000 And that is what people are really scared about with people who have a lot of money, is that they don't just have a boat, they don't just have a house, but then they start influencing what people can and can't do.
01:10:43.000 Then they start funding studies to talk about particular types of energy, because they've got an enormous amount of money invested in this green renewable energy or whatever it is.
01:10:53.000 But what it really is, is money.
01:10:55.000 Ever doing anything for you.
01:10:58.000 Ever.
01:10:58.000 Whether it's climate change or whatever the fuck, whether it's energy, it's always money.
01:11:04.000 And they'll flavor it.
01:11:07.000 It's for you.
01:11:08.000 It's for us.
01:11:09.000 We have to worry about the environment.
01:11:11.000 Didn't Al Gore become the first guy to make a billion dollars off of climate change?
01:11:17.000 I know he's definitely the face of it for a long time.
01:11:20.000 I read that, that Al Gore, it could be bullshit, but I read that Al Gore was the first climate change billionaire.
01:11:27.000 Interesting.
01:11:28.000 And the things that he invested in that movie that he put out that scared the fuck out of me.
01:11:32.000 Oh yeah, we're all like, we gotta do something.
01:11:33.000 By the way, not a single thing, not a single thing was accurate, not even close.
01:11:40.000 Not Might as well have been made by Michael Moore.
01:11:43.000 Michael Moore is more accurate.
01:11:45.000 He was, at least back in the day.
01:11:46.000 You watched Roger and Me.
01:11:48.000 Michael Moore in the early days made some great films.
01:11:51.000 Well, I think a lot of it was just bullcrap.
01:11:53.000 Well, not the first one.
01:11:54.000 Not Roger and Me.
01:11:55.000 Remember when he did a scene where these kids go into a bank and they buy a gun over the counter from the bank, and I was like...
01:12:02.000 What?
01:12:02.000 Yeah, it was his gun one, Bowling for Columbine or whatever.
01:12:06.000 And I remember seeing that scene as, like, I worked at Hollywood Video at the time, and I was like, this is terrifying.
01:12:10.000 We've got to get rid of these guns.
01:12:12.000 And then I looked into it years later when the internet kind of grew, and I was like, oh, that's a total bullshit.
01:12:16.000 It was like a made-up scene.
01:12:17.000 Oh, so you just made up a scene?
01:12:18.000 Yeah, which, that's why we weren't even allowed at Hollywood Video to keep Michael Moore's movies in the documentary section.
01:12:22.000 We weren't even allowed to keep it in that section.
01:12:24.000 Really?
01:12:25.000 Because it's not counted as a documentary.
01:12:27.000 Oh.
01:12:27.000 Oh, see, it didn't used to be like that.
01:12:29.000 I gotta be honest, I don't think I watched Bowling for Columbine.
01:12:31.000 I might have.
01:12:32.000 It was so long ago.
01:12:33.000 But I do remember Roger and me being very impactful, because it was about the auto industry moving out of Flint, Michigan.
01:12:38.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:12:39.000 And about how the town collapsed.
01:12:41.000 It happens in Pittsburgh.
01:12:42.000 I was just in Pittsburgh, and you see all these abandoned warehouses where Americans used to work.
01:12:45.000 Yeah.
01:12:45.000 And you go, oh, wasn't it better?
01:12:47.000 With Chinese slaves making you $300 sneakers?
01:12:50.000 No, it's not better.
01:12:51.000 It's not better at all.
01:12:53.000 It's not better for anybody.
01:12:54.000 It's crazy what they did, and they just did it for money.
01:12:57.000 They did it for money.
01:12:58.000 They shipped things overseas because they can get people to work for nothing, which is so crazy.
01:13:02.000 I know.
01:13:03.000 You can't do it here, but you do it there.
01:13:06.000 I was talking to this person who ran a plant in Mexico.
01:13:10.000 We were getting a little tipsy.
01:13:11.000 And I didn't like that they were justifying this procedure of doing that.
01:13:17.000 And they were trying to tell me that these people would starve to death if it wasn't for that plant.
01:13:23.000 I go, those people have been there for thousands of years.
01:13:25.000 I go, and you know why they don't have any money?
01:13:28.000 Probably because we bribed their government, and we gave them loans they couldn't pay off, and then we took all their resources, and then we moved plants over there.
01:13:37.000 The pollution of the plants is just insane, too.
01:13:41.000 They live in fog-filled cities.
01:13:43.000 We can go back to the entire areas run by the cartel because we have drugs illegal in this country unless they're prescribed.
01:13:50.000 And then you have the Sackler family that makes billions of dollars.
01:13:53.000 No one's worried about that slavery.
01:13:53.000 Nobody's worried about that slavery.
01:13:55.000 Everyone wants to talk about slavery that we abolished in this country.
01:13:58.000 Everyone wants to talk about that slavery.
01:14:00.000 But not a slave that made your phone.
01:14:02.000 But not the current slavery that made this.
01:14:04.000 Or my shoes.
01:14:05.000 Or all the things you wear.
01:14:07.000 Or how about the sex trafficking?
01:14:09.000 How about the women that are slaves right now?
01:14:12.000 Well, how about the amount of them that have probably been smuggled across the border?
01:14:16.000 We don't even know what those numbers are.
01:14:18.000 If I put together enough money, right?
01:14:20.000 I'm not super rich, but I've got some money.
01:14:23.000 If I put together, like my life mission was to fix that, they'd just kill me in a month.
01:14:28.000 You have no chance.
01:14:29.000 What are you doing, dude?
01:14:30.000 Tell jokes and talk about baseball.
01:14:31.000 Why are you trying to help in something that matters?
01:14:34.000 Yeah, imagine trying to shut down the cartel and you live in a normal house.
01:14:38.000 I'd make it a week.
01:14:39.000 We wouldn't let you go, what happened to Jeff?
01:14:41.000 That's a billion dollar a month business.
01:14:43.000 What the fuck are you talking about?
01:14:45.000 They're not going to let you get away with that.
01:14:46.000 They're going to kill you.
01:14:47.000 They kill everybody.
01:14:48.000 Why wouldn't they kill you?
01:14:49.000 So you've got all these problems.
01:14:52.000 And then, you know, shipping things, shipping these factories to these other places, it doesn't keep people from starving to death.
01:14:58.000 It's just we were doing an unethical thing.
01:15:01.000 Like, you can't do it on this patch of dirt.
01:15:03.000 But if you just move it to that patch of dirt, now you can do unethical things.
01:15:05.000 Now it's fine.
01:15:06.000 This is crazy.
01:15:07.000 What is this, a casino cruise ship?
01:15:09.000 Not only that, like, now that we know.
01:15:11.000 So they did that back then when there was no internet.
01:15:13.000 You know, you sneak it across the board.
01:15:15.000 Nobody, I'm still buying.
01:15:16.000 Look, my car is $5 cheaper!
01:15:18.000 And you don't care!
01:15:19.000 And so everybody, you hear some stories about Michigan.
01:15:21.000 If you don't live there, eh, whatever.
01:15:23.000 I'm over here in LA. I don't give a fuck.
01:15:25.000 I got a nice car.
01:15:26.000 But your car's made in Mexico.
01:15:28.000 And it's like we don't even realize what the impact of that was.
01:15:33.000 But now that we have the internet, now you can see it.
01:15:35.000 And we still do it.
01:15:37.000 It's like it's grandfathered in that you buy your phone from a company that uses slaves.
01:15:42.000 100%.
01:15:42.000 And the factories literally have nets around them to keep people from jumping off.
01:15:46.000 And we're like, okay.
01:15:46.000 And also, I'm not pretending I'm better than anyone else, right?
01:15:49.000 I promise that.
01:15:50.000 But I don't yammer on on my social media about slavery all day.
01:15:55.000 I'm aware that I'm in this system or this network.
01:15:58.000 It's just so hypocritical when I hear, like, LeBron talk about slavery that happened in our country over a hundred years ago while he's dripping in Nike.
01:16:09.000 How dumb can you be to pretend to care about slavery while you're making, what, a billion or something from Nike?
01:16:17.000 Don't you think that if you're a person that is in mainstream world acceptance, whether a sports star or any kind of media personality, there's certain things you feel obligated to call out and to talk about.
01:16:33.000 I would think so.
01:16:33.000 I only know how I would behave.
01:16:35.000 I just think there's honest money and then there's dishonest money.
01:16:38.000 And I've never had the stomach for...
01:16:40.000 You mean like the money they paid the people to endorse Kamala Harris?
01:16:42.000 Oh yeah, that's pretty dishonest money right there.
01:16:45.000 That's so wild!
01:16:46.000 Cardi B, Beyonce.
01:16:47.000 Did you Did you know that was even legal?
01:16:49.000 You fucking fools.
01:16:50.000 Did you know that was even legal?
01:16:51.000 It shouldn't be legal.
01:16:53.000 The view keeps yammering about how Elon Musk shouldn't be allowed.
01:16:57.000 You know, I saw a video yesterday about you.
01:16:59.000 Oh, the Joe Rogans of the world are influencing...
01:17:03.000 Oh, that's that feminist guy?
01:17:06.000 Yeah, and like, they're so mad.
01:17:07.000 He tried to say that there's this multi-billion dollar right-wing ecosystem that's been developed just like a terrorist network that radicalizes young people?
01:17:18.000 Like, what, by talking to scientists?
01:17:20.000 By telling them to be good guys?
01:17:21.000 To tell them to be honorable to their partner?
01:17:24.000 Radicalizes!
01:17:25.000 That's not radical!
01:17:26.000 Radicalizes!
01:17:26.000 Also, let me ask you, on air, for this podcast, how much money did Donald Trump give you to endorse him?
01:17:33.000 A hundred million dollars.
01:17:34.000 No, he didn't.
01:17:35.000 No, he gave me nothing.
01:17:36.000 Gave you zero, Joe.
01:17:37.000 He gave me nothing.
01:17:37.000 He gave you zero because you thought, I think that this is what's best for the country, given the two options.
01:17:42.000 I knew the resistance that it would face, but I think it's true.
01:17:45.000 How much did Beyonce get?
01:17:46.000 She got ten million dollars.
01:17:47.000 Ten million!
01:17:48.000 But, hold on.
01:17:49.000 She talked for like three minutes.
01:17:51.000 That's good.
01:17:52.000 What do you mean that's good?
01:17:54.000 I mean, that's enough.
01:17:55.000 That's too much.
01:17:56.000 No, no, it's plenty.
01:17:57.000 It's perfect.
01:17:58.000 10 million!
01:18:00.000 It's a good deal.
01:18:00.000 It's a good deal, the taxpayer's money.
01:18:02.000 I mean, it's a good deal, all these people that are, like, donating money to the Democratic Party, and they're 20 million dollars in debt.
01:18:07.000 It went to Beyonce!
01:18:07.000 You mutants!
01:18:09.000 They spent a billion dollars.
01:18:11.000 They're 20 million dollars in debt, and Trump offered to pay their debt.
01:18:15.000 He's like, we have a lot of money left over, because most of our media- We want too good.
01:18:19.000 He called it earned media.
01:18:20.000 I had to look it up.
01:18:22.000 So earned media is essentially whenever he's in the news.
01:18:24.000 Yeah.
01:18:25.000 Or when he's getting interviewed on shows or on podcasts.
01:18:28.000 Yeah.
01:18:28.000 That's earned media.
01:18:29.000 And that's what he did.
01:18:30.000 Well, I just love...
01:18:31.000 People go, why are you getting so passionate about this, Jeff?
01:18:33.000 It's like it's right in front of your eyes.
01:18:35.000 Right.
01:18:36.000 If you have to pay someone $10 million to endorse A, but then B is doing it for free because they believe in that idea, which one seems more nefarious?
01:18:47.000 Bro, Eminem took 1.8.
01:18:49.000 1.8?
01:18:50.000 Is that real?
01:18:50.000 How do we know that's true?
01:18:51.000 Because I said it.
01:18:53.000 I have not found any evidence that supports this stuff.
01:18:58.000 I think it's all legit.
01:18:59.000 Some of them being asked and said I was not paid.
01:19:01.000 But wait a minute.
01:19:02.000 Oprah was paid.
01:19:02.000 There was an FEC thing.
01:19:04.000 Her company was paid to host an event.
01:19:07.000 Okay.
01:19:07.000 They paid her company a million dollars, dude.
01:19:09.000 I'm just saying.
01:19:11.000 I don't know what happened and where they hosted it and how many people were involved.
01:19:14.000 She was not paid.
01:19:15.000 Her company was paid.
01:19:16.000 A million dollars?
01:19:17.000 What did she do that hosted an event?
01:19:19.000 Did she put together an event?
01:19:21.000 Like cater an event?
01:19:22.000 Campaign finance.
01:19:23.000 I'll try to put it on the screen.
01:19:24.000 Show that they paid Harpo Productions for event production.
01:19:28.000 It was paid for post-live streaming event.
01:19:31.000 Uh-huh.
01:19:32.000 Which I don't know how much that costs.
01:19:33.000 Production costs of a live stream event.
01:19:36.000 That could be money.
01:19:36.000 So she was not paid a personal fee for the event.
01:19:39.000 She said I was paid nothing.
01:19:40.000 Right.
01:19:41.000 But she didn't donate her company to do this.
01:19:45.000 She got paid for it.
01:19:47.000 That's right.
01:19:48.000 I don't know.
01:19:49.000 So this is where I got it.
01:19:50.000 So she got a gig is essentially what it is.
01:19:53.000 She got a million dollar gig.
01:19:55.000 Five million to Megan Thee Stallion, three million to Lizzo, 1.8 for Eminem.
01:19:59.000 I know that's in this article, but it doesn't show like where...
01:20:02.000 And one million for Oprah.
01:20:02.000 That could be made up.
01:20:04.000 Okay.
01:20:04.000 This is an Instagram list.
01:20:05.000 Well, I didn't make it up, but that's what I read.
01:20:08.000 I love it.
01:20:08.000 I want it to be real.
01:20:09.000 Okay, yeah, no problem.
01:20:10.000 I want it to be real.
01:20:11.000 Yeah.
01:20:13.000 Well, it makes me believe in our Earth better if they didn't.
01:20:16.000 If they just did it for free.
01:20:18.000 It makes me believe in the Earth better if they did it.
01:20:20.000 Because I don't want to think that Eminem really believed that shit.
01:20:23.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:20:25.000 It's always naughty people that do this.
01:20:27.000 I wouldn't think you went out there for 1.8.
01:20:29.000 There's no federal records showing campaign payments to Eminem or Megan Thee Stallion.
01:20:34.000 So, when it says mostly false, where did that rumor emanate from?
01:20:38.000 Someone put it on Instagram and people run wild with it because it sounds fun.
01:20:42.000 Damn.
01:20:43.000 I thought it was fun.
01:20:44.000 Yeah, it is fun.
01:20:46.000 If I'm wrong, I'm willing to, you know.
01:20:48.000 I read it and my blood boiled.
01:20:51.000 I was like, what is going on?
01:20:52.000 The Beyonce one is crazy.
01:20:53.000 There's no evidence that it's true.
01:20:55.000 It might be true.
01:20:56.000 Doesn't mean it's not.
01:20:57.000 Just no current evidence as of today.
01:20:59.000 Mostly false, but this is PolitiFact.
01:21:01.000 Yeah, it could be a rumor that got spread.
01:21:03.000 PolitiFact is sketch.
01:21:04.000 Well, if it's not true, then it's not true.
01:21:06.000 But, let me tell you, if it is true, that's crazy.
01:21:10.000 Is that legal?
01:21:12.000 Is it legal to pay Beyoncé $10 million to talk at a political rally?
01:21:17.000 I don't think so.
01:21:18.000 There's all these little companies.
01:21:20.000 Why would they pay her that much?
01:21:21.000 That seems crazy.
01:21:23.000 That does seem crazy.
01:21:24.000 Desperate times.
01:21:25.000 Yeah, but she doesn't need the money.
01:21:26.000 No, I'm saying desperate times for the campaign trail.
01:21:29.000 And then they go, I was going to endorse her anyways.
01:21:30.000 I'll just do it for a little fee.
01:21:33.000 My time is worth money.
01:21:34.000 My private plane costs money.
01:21:36.000 Can you cover that?
01:21:37.000 Well, it seems suspicious.
01:21:40.000 Because when someone's got that kind of money, to do something that people are going to look down upon if they find out if it's true, that's what makes me skeptical.
01:21:47.000 Because someone who has that kind of money, for her, $10 million, it sounds crazy to say this, but I believe that for Beyoncé and Jay-Z, $10 million is not noticeable.
01:21:56.000 It's not going to change their life at all.
01:21:57.000 They won't change their life, but you still notice.
01:21:59.000 I think they're billionaires, dude.
01:22:02.000 Beyonce's got almost a billion dollars.
01:22:03.000 Yeah, I think he has a billion as well.
01:22:05.000 I don't think they're gonna notice.
01:22:07.000 So that's like not gonna change your lifestyle.
01:22:09.000 But it could get you out of your house to go do a thing that puts you in the news.
01:22:14.000 Is that what she wants?
01:22:15.000 Well, think about the Super Bowl.
01:22:16.000 All those people that perform in the Super Bowl halftime get paid zero dollars.
01:22:19.000 Right, but it's a tremendous advertisement.
01:22:22.000 Because they do it.
01:22:22.000 But they perform.
01:22:24.000 She wasn't even performing.
01:22:25.000 She was just talking.
01:22:27.000 I mean, maybe 10 million bucks is 10 million bucks.
01:22:30.000 You can't help it, even if you've got 2 billion dollars in the bank.
01:22:33.000 But part of me is like, maybe I'm just looking at how I would look at it.
01:22:36.000 Like, I wouldn't do shit.
01:22:38.000 Well, I always think, and this may be my naivety to rich people, is that they don't have to be bought anymore because they're rich.
01:22:46.000 Like, you'd think that.
01:22:47.000 That's how I think about it.
01:22:50.000 It's easier to do things against my moral compass when I was broke.
01:22:53.000 You'd say, Jeff, we'll give you $500, go steal this thing.
01:22:56.000 Cause I'd be like, you know, I need 500 bucks.
01:22:58.000 Whereas like now I can be a little more generous with my money.
01:23:01.000 I can be a little more ethical because I'm, I'm in a place where I don't have to worry about the $500 isn't worth breaking some ethical code for me, right?
01:23:08.000 But money isn't your existence.
01:23:10.000 For some people, money is just some score of how well they're doing in life.
01:23:14.000 And they get addicted to numbers.
01:23:15.000 They get addicted to this idea of constantly.
01:23:18.000 And they compare themselves to all the other people.
01:23:20.000 This is from Fox News.
01:23:22.000 They have Washington Examiner reporting that money was spent in ways, I guess you could argue, maybe...
01:23:29.000 Well, they spent six figures building the set for Caller Daddy, but that seems...
01:23:35.000 People are saying that's outrageous, but that's not that outrageous.
01:23:38.000 $100,000, you build a set, you have to lease a building, you have to bring in cameras and all that shit.
01:23:44.000 I could see that being $100,000.
01:23:46.000 Campaign spent at least $15 million on event production, FEC record show, With many payments lining up with high-profile events and concerts with celebrity attendees or performers.
01:23:55.000 And that's how you do it.
01:23:57.000 Because it's a performance.
01:23:59.000 Right.
01:24:00.000 So you pay them for performing.
01:24:00.000 So you can pay them to perform.
01:24:02.000 That's the difference.
01:24:03.000 That's the difference.
01:24:03.000 The truth is, just an epic disaster.
01:24:05.000 This is a $1 billion disaster.
01:24:08.000 Lindy Lee, Harris surrogate, and DNC National Finance Committee member told Fox& Friends Weekend on Saturday...
01:24:14.000 So they did.
01:24:16.000 They definitely spent a lot of money.
01:24:17.000 Harris campaign cut multiple six-figure paychecks in September for left-leaning groups that have been vocal about defunding the police, reparations that are tied to radical activists who have supported notorious anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan, Fox News digitally, previously reported.
01:24:33.000 That's wild.
01:24:34.000 So they cut checks to left-leaning groups.
01:24:36.000 So they spend money to get people to talk about things.
01:24:40.000 They give it to the groups.
01:24:41.000 The groups pay the performers and the people that speak.
01:24:44.000 Also, the groups, you're paying them to be vocal.
01:24:48.000 By saying, cut multiple six-figure checks, you're funding these people to go out and do these things.
01:24:57.000 The FEC filings also spent north of $56 million on payroll and payroll taxes in just three months.
01:25:06.000 Yeah, that's crazy.
01:25:08.000 That payroll is is your performers.
01:25:10.000 Finally also show the campaign gave in excess of a hundred million dollars to various consulting and marketing firms, including Gambit Strategies LLC, DuPont Circle Strategies LLC, and Bully Pulpit Interactive LLC. That is so crazy.
01:25:25.000 They gave those folks a hundred million dollars.
01:25:28.000 Yeah, so like $1 million to Eminem could have been lost in there, but I'm just saying that you have to find the evidence to blame him.
01:25:35.000 Well, I think with a guy like Eminem, too, he doesn't like performing.
01:25:39.000 He has agoraphobia.
01:25:41.000 He doesn't like leaving the house, which is crazy.
01:25:45.000 I saw him.
01:25:46.000 He killed it.
01:25:47.000 I saw him over here at the racetrack.
01:25:48.000 He played at Coda.
01:25:49.000 Yeah, it was awesome.
01:25:50.000 It was like 100,000 people were there.
01:25:52.000 Because it was...
01:25:53.000 I don't know what the real number is.
01:25:55.000 I might have made that up.
01:25:56.000 But a lot of people.
01:25:57.000 A lot of people.
01:25:57.000 Because it was there.
01:25:58.000 People were there for Formula One.
01:25:59.000 And they have this enormous place.
01:26:01.000 Like, I saw the Stones there.
01:26:02.000 And I think it was...
01:26:03.000 I mean, how many people's code a seat?
01:26:06.000 I mean, it had to be 80,000 people.
01:26:08.000 It's one of the biggest crowds I've ever seen.
01:26:10.000 It was insane.
01:26:11.000 This F1 starts taking off.
01:26:12.000 But I saw Eminem there.
01:26:13.000 He was great.
01:26:13.000 But he performed so rarely.
01:26:15.000 My buddy was at an F1 thing recently.
01:26:17.000 And, like, at one of the concerts that was performing afterwards or something.
01:26:20.000 Or...
01:26:21.000 Maybe it was just F1. I don't know.
01:26:23.000 Maybe there wasn't a concert.
01:26:24.000 Whatever it was, Michael Jordan was just hanging out.
01:26:26.000 Michael Jordan had a hat on, a hood on.
01:26:28.000 He had the things over his ears from the noise of the car.
01:26:30.000 And my buddy's like, hey man.
01:26:32.000 And then Jordan took a selfie with him, chatted him up for a few minutes.
01:26:35.000 And I was like, that's how popular it's getting.
01:26:38.000 You said the Eminem was performing at an F1 thing?
01:26:41.000 Yeah, he performed.
01:26:43.000 They had the races, and then one night he performed.
01:26:46.000 That's crazy.
01:26:47.000 I think he performed Sunday night or Saturday night.
01:26:49.000 I just saw Post Malone there, too.
01:26:50.000 He was just there two weeks ago doing his country show.
01:26:54.000 Yeah, I love that.
01:26:56.000 It's great.
01:26:57.000 I love that dude to death.
01:26:58.000 Post's the best.
01:26:58.000 He's so much fun.
01:26:59.000 He's such a fun dude, too.
01:27:01.000 Just fun to hang out with him, too.
01:27:02.000 Get to see him and give him a hug.
01:27:05.000 100,000.
01:27:06.000 Nice.
01:27:07.000 100,000 people.
01:27:07.000 100,000.
01:27:08.000 So it was just a fucking insane huge crowd.
01:27:10.000 He killed it, too.
01:27:11.000 I love that.
01:27:12.000 But he doesn't like to do shows.
01:27:13.000 So to get him out there for a political event, you gotta come with the cheddar.
01:27:18.000 Yeah, you better pay the guy.
01:27:19.000 You gotta come with the cheddar.
01:27:20.000 Especially if he doesn't do a lot of shows a year.
01:27:22.000 1.8 will go a long way.
01:27:24.000 Guy lives in Detroit.
01:27:25.000 Pretty easy.
01:27:25.000 The price of living there is not that steep.
01:27:28.000 Yeah.
01:27:28.000 You know?
01:27:29.000 I also think that people care about money, you know?
01:27:34.000 Yeah, well, especially if you're a person who thinks about money all the time.
01:27:38.000 That's what I was saying about, like, I know rich dudes.
01:27:40.000 I know dudes who are billionaires, who get uncomfortable when they're around 100 billionaires, because they feel like losers.
01:27:48.000 That's wild.
01:27:48.000 It's hilarious.
01:27:49.000 It breaks my brain.
01:27:50.000 It's like when you showed me all the planets in a row, and I was going, oh, like, that's what you just did with money.
01:27:55.000 There's always layers to it.
01:27:57.000 Like, I'm pretty wealthy, but I'm very poor compared to my friend Elon.
01:28:01.000 Yeah.
01:28:01.000 Like, I'm a pauper.
01:28:02.000 I'm like a dude living in a shitty studio apartment compared to that guy.
01:28:05.000 Like, that's what it's like.
01:28:07.000 I don't know.
01:28:07.000 Like, there's, like, crazy levels to it.
01:28:09.000 But also, he works in a way I am not willing to do.
01:28:13.000 He doesn't sleep.
01:28:13.000 That's one thing people don't talk about these really...
01:28:15.000 Even Bill Gates, whether you agree with him or not, like, the dude was willing to, like, sleep like a fish, where he'd take, like, he'd sleep for, like, 15 minutes and wake up and program again.
01:28:24.000 Like, he worked really hard to become Bill Gates.
01:28:27.000 Oh yeah, there's no doubt.
01:28:28.000 And without Microsoft, who knows where we'd be without the Windows operating system.
01:28:33.000 It was fucking everywhere.
01:28:35.000 It was everything.
01:28:36.000 He's also cured like 500 things.
01:28:38.000 These small little non-profits will say, there's this disease called this.
01:28:43.000 You go, how much do you need?
01:28:44.000 They go, a million bucks, we think, maybe?
01:28:46.000 He just gives them the money, and then they close.
01:28:49.000 They go, what are we going to work on now?
01:28:50.000 He cured it.
01:28:52.000 Really?
01:28:53.000 You sure about that?
01:28:53.000 Well, that's what I've...
01:28:55.000 Is this another one of these ones I got wrong?
01:28:57.000 Yeah, it might be one of these ones.
01:28:58.000 Yeah.
01:28:58.000 There's a thing called Philanthrocapitalism, okay?
01:29:03.000 Philanthrocapitalism is you're acting like a philanthropist, but you're making a lot of money through this.
01:29:07.000 Like, he invested a lot of money in the mRNA vaccines, and that's why he was promoting it.
01:29:11.000 He made like $500 million.
01:29:12.000 Sure, sure.
01:29:12.000 And then after he dumped his stock, he started talking shit about it.
01:29:15.000 It wasn't really that good.
01:29:16.000 The virus wasn't that dangerous.
01:29:18.000 Like, what?
01:29:18.000 Yeah.
01:29:19.000 Where was this guy?
01:29:20.000 Well, but I'm saying like all these...
01:29:22.000 I don't know how to look up if he's cured any diseases or anything.
01:29:26.000 I don't know how you'd look that up.
01:29:27.000 Is there a way to look that up?
01:29:28.000 They've invested in efforts to develop cures for diseases.
01:29:32.000 For sure.
01:29:32.000 Including sickle cell HIV. But they didn't fix it.
01:29:35.000 No, no.
01:29:36.000 The only one I know that's close, I think, is sickle cell, but I think didn't they just pull back...
01:29:40.000 We would have heard about that if they cured sickle cell.
01:29:42.000 You know where sickle cell came from?
01:29:43.000 I thought that he cured all these small ones.
01:29:45.000 You know where sickle cell came from?
01:29:46.000 No.
01:29:46.000 It came from resistance to malaria.
01:29:49.000 Really?
01:29:49.000 Isn't that crazy?
01:29:50.000 Yeah, the people that experience malaria that's tracked down in their genes and they pass it on to their ancestors.
01:29:56.000 That's where sickle cell...
01:29:57.000 I had a buddy of mine who died from sickle cell.
01:30:00.000 When I was a kid, a guy I used to do Taekwondo with, a dude named Walter.
01:30:03.000 He was an awesomely talented guy.
01:30:05.000 But he would get real sick, man.
01:30:07.000 He just couldn't train, couldn't come in for months.
01:30:09.000 Yeah, there was a new drug that came out this year, I think, that they thought was going to be ending it, but they had to quickly pull it off.
01:30:15.000 Brought to you by Pfizer?
01:30:17.000 Of course.
01:30:17.000 Some people died.
01:30:18.000 They died from it?
01:30:20.000 Anticipated number, higher than an anticipated number of deaths reported in trials.
01:30:24.000 Indicating that the benefits of the drug no longer outweighed the risks.
01:30:28.000 So it kills people quicker than sickle cells.
01:30:31.000 I guess that's a solution of sorts.
01:30:33.000 There's been so many of those drugs.
01:30:35.000 You know 33%?
01:30:37.000 Is that what it is?
01:30:37.000 30-something percent of all drugs the FDA approves get pulled.
01:30:41.000 Like, whoopsies!
01:30:43.000 What's the matter?
01:30:44.000 You ever heard that book?
01:30:45.000 I think it's called like 19...
01:30:48.000 I don't know the name of the book.
01:30:49.000 It's named after a year.
01:30:51.000 1984?
01:30:53.000 I think it's...
01:30:54.000 Not the George Orwell book.
01:30:54.000 No, not George Orwell.
01:30:55.000 It's called...
01:30:57.000 That would be ridiculous.
01:30:59.000 Gosh, it's a...
01:31:01.000 What's it about?
01:31:02.000 I'm trying to look in my audible for this book.
01:31:06.000 But basically the premise is this guy cures cancer.
01:31:09.000 Why don't you just search and type in the number 19?
01:31:12.000 Maybe.
01:31:13.000 But it might be called 2020 or something.
01:31:15.000 Oh, you don't remember?
01:31:16.000 No, I listen to a lot of books.
01:31:18.000 What's it called here?
01:31:20.000 I'll find it.
01:31:21.000 Okay.
01:31:22.000 But the premise is this guy cures cancer, and at first everyone's great.
01:31:28.000 He becomes the richest guy in the world.
01:31:29.000 Everyone's happy that he cured cancer.
01:31:31.000 But then people start to resent him because they're like, you know, I should have already had my inheritance by now.
01:31:37.000 This guy's playing God, keeping my parents alive longer than they should.
01:31:41.000 It becomes like these ideas of like, no, he's wrong for doing this.
01:31:45.000 He's affected society.
01:31:46.000 Like, there's no real estate being freed up as quick now.
01:31:49.000 People should just die however they die naturally.
01:31:52.000 And it's a fun little...
01:31:54.000 Yeah, it's obviously not real or nothing, but it was an interesting kind of way to look at things.
01:32:01.000 Well, that's a sociopath's way of looking at things.
01:32:03.000 Imagine that.
01:32:04.000 Like, what you're thinking is, if someone dies, I get their stuff.
01:32:07.000 Why don't they just die?
01:32:09.000 It's disgusting.
01:32:10.000 But I could see how groups would start to think that.
01:32:12.000 You know, like, that's how, like, life is.
01:32:14.000 You do a good idea.
01:32:15.000 Look at the systems that we put in place, like, back in the day.
01:32:18.000 And now everyone looks like, that was just their way to trap people in the projects.
01:32:21.000 You're like, at first it was, like, a really nice idea.
01:32:23.000 Like, they wanted to give people that couldn't afford places in the city.
01:32:28.000 But it's all been...
01:32:30.000 That's how people react to that one dude who's trying to live to be 2,000 years old.
01:32:34.000 That one guy who gets young guy's blood injected in his body.
01:32:37.000 Oh yeah, just do anything.
01:32:39.000 I've seen so many people mad at him.
01:32:41.000 If everybody lived 500 years, the whole world would be overcrowded.
01:32:47.000 Yeah.
01:32:48.000 But everyone's not trying to do it.
01:32:50.000 Also, if I could give you a pill and you would be healthy, just take this one pill, you'd be healthy for 150 years.
01:32:57.000 You're not going to take it?
01:32:58.000 Shut the fuck up.
01:32:58.000 It's called 2030 by Albert Brooks.
01:33:01.000 Oh, okay.
01:33:01.000 2030. This is interesting.
01:33:04.000 Good book?
01:33:05.000 Yeah, because you start to see how over time people just misconstrue things.
01:33:09.000 Enough time goes by.
01:33:11.000 People are willing to do all sorts of mental gymnastics.
01:33:14.000 I mean, that's how this whole gender-affirming care thing got through.
01:33:16.000 We would never let kids get tattoos.
01:33:18.000 We're letting them get their dicks chopped off.
01:33:20.000 Says who?
01:33:21.000 Like, why?
01:33:21.000 What, 30 years ago, if you said that we'd be debating or even having to have a conversation that's controversial about whether a guy can be a woman, they would laugh in the streets at us, you know?
01:33:32.000 And now it's real.
01:33:34.000 So that's kind of how the book does a really good job of describing, like, they would just resent that guy after a while.
01:33:39.000 They would hate him for curing cancer.
01:33:40.000 Some people would.
01:33:41.000 There's always going to be weak bitches in this world.
01:33:43.000 And they exist.
01:33:45.000 Just like you're talking about your parents, I don't want to be like that.
01:33:48.000 That's what weak bitches are there for.
01:33:50.000 They're weak behavior, jealous behavior.
01:33:52.000 You learn from it.
01:33:53.000 And you go, oh, okay.
01:33:55.000 I see what that guy's doing.
01:33:56.000 I don't ever want to be like that guy.
01:33:58.000 I feel like that with a ton of people in my life right now.
01:34:00.000 Hell yeah.
01:34:01.000 You're going to always.
01:34:02.000 They're there.
01:34:03.000 They're always going to be there.
01:34:04.000 There's some people that just, they're not going to keep up.
01:34:06.000 And you can't keep them in your life either.
01:34:09.000 You just can't.
01:34:09.000 You gotta keep moving.
01:34:10.000 Yeah.
01:34:11.000 Some people are never gonna run out of problems, and they're never gonna run out of friends to throw those problems at.
01:34:16.000 Yeah.
01:34:16.000 I was telling you this earlier, but, like, the day after the election, like, I, like, woke up.
01:34:20.000 I was with my buddies.
01:34:21.000 I was just sitting there, and I was about to open up my phone for the first time since Trump wins the election.
01:34:28.000 I just took a deep breath.
01:34:29.000 I was like...
01:34:31.000 I'm gonna lose a lot of friends today.
01:34:33.000 I was about to post some shit and just like, I was so...
01:34:36.000 You're not losing friends, though.
01:34:38.000 You're losing friends that weren't really your friends.
01:34:39.000 They were friends with conditions.
01:34:41.000 You know, Ron White is a giant Kamala Harris supporter, believe it or not.
01:34:44.000 Ron White always votes blue.
01:34:46.000 He's one of them low information voters.
01:34:48.000 Like, you start giving him facts, he falls apart.
01:34:50.000 But he'll fucking tell you, that guy shouldn't be the fucking president.
01:34:53.000 He's like, that's a good president.
01:34:57.000 I love him to death.
01:34:58.000 He's one of my best friends.
01:35:00.000 I don't care.
01:35:00.000 That's how things should work.
01:35:01.000 That's how it's supposed to work.
01:35:03.000 100%.
01:35:03.000 He has different political ideas.
01:35:05.000 He has different ways of thinking about things.
01:35:07.000 That's fine.
01:35:08.000 It's broke my heart that a lot of people have treated me the way.
01:35:10.000 Because I feel like people were fine with conservative JF. They knew that I'm a Christian and that I lean right.
01:35:17.000 And especially now, lean even more right.
01:35:19.000 And then...
01:35:20.000 But they didn't really draw a line until I became supportive of Donald Trump.
01:35:25.000 That's when they drew a line and they go, we don't want to talk to you anymore.
01:35:27.000 And that broke my heart.
01:35:29.000 I don't think I moved right at all.
01:35:31.000 I stayed.
01:35:32.000 But the whole thing moved.
01:35:34.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:35:34.000 I haven't changed many of my thoughts.
01:35:36.000 It's just that it's gone.
01:35:38.000 What was a Democrat is now Republican.
01:35:41.000 There's a few of my thoughts that I used to be all in on, and now I'm like, hmm.
01:35:46.000 And this is just about human psychology.
01:35:49.000 I was all in on universal basic income, which I think is going to be necessary in the future, because I think automation.
01:35:55.000 There's something Andrew Yang talked about when he was running for president.
01:35:58.000 I think he's correct.
01:35:59.000 That automation and AI is going to just consume, especially AI, it's going to consume so many jobs.
01:36:06.000 There's going to be so many people that have to rethink their life and figure it out.
01:36:10.000 And I think if we don't compensate those people somehow or another, we're going to have a real fucking chaotic problem on our hands.
01:36:16.000 Just to keep people happy and healthy, I think universal basic income might be the way to go.
01:36:21.000 But I used to always think like, hey, maybe if we gave universal basic income to people, then, you know, they would still be ambitious, but they'd be ambitious in like pursuing their own career or developing their own business or, you know, taking that money and using it to be free.
01:36:34.000 But now I think that human nature, if you give people, there's so many people that if you don't give them a difficult problem to solve, and if you provide them with all their needs, their food and their shelter, they just aren't.
01:36:48.000 100%.
01:36:49.000 Which is what you don't like.
01:36:50.000 Right.
01:36:50.000 So there's two things going on simultaneously.
01:36:52.000 One, we have to address the fact that there is no way to get around the fact that automation and AI is going to consume a lot of jobs, and I think universal basic income is probably the only solution for some of those people.
01:37:02.000 But then there's also the psychology aspect of it.
01:37:05.000 Like, if you do tell people you never have to work again, most people never have to work again.
01:37:09.000 And they're going to regret it someday.
01:37:11.000 One day they're going to look at all these people they admire, that have accomplished things, that live these fun, exciting lives, successful lives, and they're going to fear envy, and they're going to feel despair, and they're going to feel like they could have done something more with their life.
01:37:24.000 But they got trapped.
01:37:26.000 The siren song of comfort led them into the rock.
01:37:29.000 That's the devil, the comfort, 100%.
01:37:32.000 Like all my friends, right?
01:37:33.000 My friends, not all my friends, but during like COVID, they're like, what am I gonna do?
01:37:38.000 And this is like really stressful, and I don't have any, right?
01:37:41.000 And then they got their government money, right?
01:37:44.000 For, you know, being out of work.
01:37:46.000 And you know what they did, Joe?
01:37:47.000 They bought guitars and baseball cards.
01:37:50.000 And I was like, I don't think you were as struggling as you thought you were.
01:37:53.000 Well, they needed something to make them feel good.
01:37:55.000 It's never enough, you know?
01:37:56.000 It's never enough.
01:37:57.000 So it's like, you've got to, like, if you give them, they'll say, well, this isn't basic, this basic income, it's not enough for me to really live.
01:38:05.000 Because what is really living?
01:38:06.000 You know, like, so it's just always going to be more.
01:38:10.000 Right.
01:38:10.000 So it's like, it's flustering to try to solve that, you know?
01:38:13.000 The hard work's the answer.
01:38:14.000 Right.
01:38:15.000 Well, you're not going to feel happy with no purpose.
01:38:18.000 And that is another thing that we found during COVID. One of the things, like, people were so at each other's throats during COVID, it's because everybody was at home.
01:38:26.000 They were all fucking bored.
01:38:28.000 Drunk.
01:38:29.000 And they were all just freaking out and just, like, attacking people over everything.
01:38:32.000 Wear a fucking mask!
01:38:34.000 I know.
01:38:34.000 Like, everybody was out of their minds.
01:38:35.000 I lost my mind.
01:38:37.000 It's like most people did, especially if you're seeing your life go away, because maybe you've worked 30 years to develop a business, then all of a sudden some new thing comes along and you have to shut your business down for a year and a half?
01:38:48.000 That's not gonna work.
01:38:49.000 And you're like, I don't have money.
01:38:50.000 Right.
01:38:51.000 And you can't get a loan, and like, oh my god, and the lease payments for the building, they keep coming in, you're like, what am I gonna do?
01:38:58.000 And then you're on Twitter all day.
01:38:59.000 Crushed all small businesses that they claim they care about.
01:39:01.000 They crushed so many fucking restaurants.
01:39:04.000 Yeah.
01:39:04.000 They almost crushed the Comedy Store.
01:39:06.000 Oh, I haven't made money in six months, and now a different group's gonna break the windows out of that place that I didn't even...
01:39:12.000 So all at the same time?
01:39:13.000 Yeah.
01:39:14.000 That's enough to make people...
01:39:15.000 And people are saying defund the police at the same time.
01:39:17.000 Yeah.
01:39:17.000 You're like, oh, this is great.
01:39:18.000 That's enough to change my political opinions, and it's enough for a psychopath to grab a gun and go, hey, maybe don't knock out the windows of my store.
01:39:25.000 It was just too much at once.
01:39:27.000 If someone comes along from the left that is an objective, sensible person that's making sense of immigration, foreign policy, then I'm still left.
01:39:38.000 I'm still the same person.
01:39:40.000 Yeah, me too.
01:39:40.000 Because socially, I'm left on almost everything, on almost everything.
01:39:46.000 The hard right is, to me, just like the hard left.
01:39:50.000 The crazy fucks that are out there on the fringes, and they sort of define the left and define the right for everybody.
01:39:58.000 You define the right by white supremacists, KKK. You define the left by Antifa.
01:40:04.000 Jesus Christ!
01:40:05.000 Most people are right here.
01:40:07.000 Most people are like, I just want rules and law and everybody to be kind and healthy and a prosperous society and no pollution.
01:40:14.000 I feel like we could all work together and do a better job of all these different things.
01:40:18.000 But like Jordan Peterson says, who's like my favorite human in the world.
01:40:21.000 I love him so much.
01:40:22.000 But he was saying like, it's really easy to identify and rebuke the far right.
01:40:27.000 Like, we're very good at identifying it and going, I devour, or disavow, or whatever the term is, we don't want that.
01:40:33.000 But then with the left, the very extreme left, we kind of celebrate it, and we post it, and we brag about it, and we go, look how good I am.
01:40:40.000 I think they thought, finally, we have thugs.
01:40:43.000 It's one of those things.
01:40:44.000 I'm against the far left.
01:40:46.000 It's the bullies.
01:40:47.000 I am too.
01:40:48.000 And the far right.
01:40:48.000 And the far right.
01:40:49.000 It's the bullies.
01:40:50.000 It's the bullies on both sides.
01:40:51.000 The people that just want to use a group and have a bunch of people.
01:40:55.000 They're all together and attack.
01:40:57.000 And just go smash windows and light things on fire.
01:41:00.000 And then there's also, they get funded to do that too.
01:41:03.000 All this shit that you're seeing where the Harris, where they funded all these different organizations.
01:41:09.000 Yep.
01:41:11.000 People fund through political, through PACs, through all sorts of different methods, fund all sorts of organizations.
01:41:17.000 100%.
01:41:18.000 They donate to all sorts of organizations.
01:41:19.000 Some of these organizations cause problems.
01:41:22.000 Yeah.
01:41:22.000 And they do it because they want them to do it.
01:41:25.000 They want problems.
01:41:26.000 Yeah.
01:41:27.000 Like during Black Lives Matter, when you see stacks of bricks laying around.
01:41:30.000 Yep.
01:41:31.000 I'm not buying it.
01:41:32.000 I'm not buying this.
01:41:33.000 Someone left $30,000 worth of bricks around.
01:41:35.000 They were just doing construction.
01:41:36.000 Just conveniently happened at the same time the protest is here.
01:41:41.000 Everyone loves coincidences.
01:41:43.000 They think it's all coincidence.
01:41:46.000 What are you, a conspiracy theorist?
01:41:48.000 But it's just, you know, and that is another group thing, you know, about being a part of the group.
01:41:54.000 If you're a part of a group that's yelling and lighting things on fire, you know how much fun that must be?
01:41:58.000 Oh, yeah.
01:41:59.000 It's happening.
01:42:00.000 Especially, you're doing it to support black people.
01:42:02.000 Who doesn't want to support black people?
01:42:04.000 I'm the best.
01:42:04.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:42:05.000 Let's light up Starbucks.
01:42:06.000 You know, and Starbucks is like, what did I do?
01:42:08.000 I didn't do anything!
01:42:09.000 At least when I supported my group, I didn't get a free Xbox.
01:42:12.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:42:13.000 I don't think you really care about what you believe in if you're getting lamps and shit.
01:42:18.000 And then in New York, they had the dumbest way of handling it.
01:42:21.000 They just let people burn themselves out.
01:42:23.000 It's crazy.
01:42:24.000 That de Blasio was the worst.
01:42:28.000 You know that's not even his real name?
01:42:29.000 No.
01:42:29.000 Yeah.
01:42:30.000 What's de Blasio's real name?
01:42:31.000 It's some crazy, like, villain name.
01:42:33.000 His real name's Mookie Betts.
01:42:34.000 No, it's like a villain.
01:42:35.000 He sounds like a villain.
01:42:38.000 What's his real name?
01:42:44.000 He changed his name to fit in with people here.
01:42:46.000 Warren Wilhelm Jr. Yeah, that's an evil name.
01:42:51.000 That is for sure.
01:42:55.000 Warren Wilhelm Jr. I like to call myself Jeff Dye Sr. And people are like, oh, is your son?
01:43:01.000 I don't know.
01:43:02.000 No.
01:43:03.000 No, no, but if I, you know, just Jeff Dye Sr. If I have a kid, it's going to be Jeff Jr. I'm Jeff Sr. I'm Jeff Sr. Yeah, I'm just preparing for the family.
01:43:10.000 You're Joe Rogan Sr. It's perfect.
01:43:12.000 This is fucking so funny, though.
01:43:14.000 The guy changed his name to make it ethnic.
01:43:16.000 Oh, yeah.
01:43:17.000 De Blasio!
01:43:18.000 Hey!
01:43:18.000 De Blasio!
01:43:19.000 Right, I'm the guy.
01:43:21.000 Gabba de Guia.
01:43:22.000 De Blasio knows how to take care of you.
01:43:24.000 Eat the fries, get a vaccine.
01:43:26.000 Come on.
01:43:27.000 William?
01:43:28.000 William?
01:43:28.000 What happened?
01:43:29.000 No, no, no!
01:43:29.000 Bill!
01:43:30.000 Bill de Blasio!
01:43:31.000 Aren't you Old Man Wilhelm's kid?
01:43:33.000 No, no, no, no!
01:43:35.000 That's not me!
01:43:36.000 That's really funny.
01:43:37.000 That's not me.
01:43:37.000 I'm the guy who pays taxpayers money to interpretive dance performers with masks on in the middle of the street.
01:43:44.000 You ever see that?
01:43:45.000 You're like Alec Baldwin's wife.
01:43:46.000 You remember her?
01:43:46.000 Did you ever see de Blasio?
01:43:47.000 Oh, that lady's great.
01:43:49.000 Dude, she's from like Connecticut and she's like, how do you say orange?
01:43:53.000 Is it orange?
01:43:54.000 I'm from Spain.
01:43:55.000 She It just made up a whole act like that's crazy to me.
01:44:00.000 That's mentally crazy.
01:44:03.000 She must be fun.
01:44:03.000 Sexually?
01:44:04.000 Yeah.
01:44:05.000 Amazing.
01:44:06.000 I bet she's fun.
01:44:07.000 To pretend.
01:44:08.000 Any kind of gal that pretends she's a different name.
01:44:11.000 That's wild.
01:44:11.000 That lady.
01:44:12.000 That lady's fun.
01:44:13.000 100%.
01:44:14.000 What was I just asking?
01:44:15.000 Oh, the video where de Blasio had the performative dancers.
01:44:19.000 Oh, yes.
01:44:20.000 Listen to this.
01:44:21.000 Take it from the beginning so you can hear how fucking stupid this is.
01:44:25.000 Look at this.
01:44:26.000 They all have masks on outside.
01:44:28.000 We need a recovery that brings back the life and the heart and the energy of this city and that everyone gets to be a part of.
01:44:34.000 Look at this dance!
01:44:35.000 We're going to really bring back the heart and soul of New York City.
01:44:38.000 We need our arts and culture back and we need people to see it and feel it, to participate in it, to know that that essence of New York City has not been defeated by the coronavirus.
01:44:48.000 We'll come back strong in 2021. Month after month in 2021, as you see the city come back to life, culture will lead the way.
01:44:56.000 Culture!
01:44:58.000 I wonder how many of those 115 people...
01:45:11.000 150 neighborhoods shot at those dancers.
01:45:14.000 Although when I think of New York City, I do think of people spazzing out in masks like that.
01:45:19.000 I do think of them going like this, like on drugs, asking me for money.
01:45:23.000 That's what I think of when I think of New York.
01:45:24.000 This is peak woke.
01:45:26.000 This is absolute peak woke insanity.
01:45:29.000 Stupid, shitty, out of rhythm dancing to terrible music while everybody's wearing masks outside and they spent money on this.
01:45:37.000 And this was his way of bringing the city back through culture.
01:45:41.000 It's just so unlikable.
01:45:43.000 It's peak woke.
01:45:44.000 I think this moment, this video, historians will look back at this.
01:45:49.000 This is when they clearly lost their fucking mind.
01:45:52.000 The biggest metropolitan city on earth.
01:45:55.000 The one.
01:45:56.000 If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.
01:45:59.000 That retard is the mayor, and this is what he's doing with taxpayer money while he's got the whole city shut down.
01:46:06.000 And he wanted to defund the police.
01:46:07.000 They won't believe it.
01:46:08.000 And he let people riot and smash windows and steal things.
01:46:11.000 We need to bring our culture back.
01:46:12.000 You need to leave!
01:46:13.000 You're terrible at this job!
01:46:15.000 But people are going to go, oh, you believe that?
01:46:16.000 That wasn't real.
01:46:17.000 You're going to go, look at it!
01:46:19.000 Yeah, they're going to go, oh, come on.
01:46:21.000 Peak woke insanity.
01:46:22.000 If you tried to do that at any other time in history, if that was in 1990 and the mayor of New York had people dancing with masks on in the street, everybody would be like...
01:46:31.000 What the fuck is this?
01:46:32.000 Someone bullied them immediately.
01:46:34.000 What happened here?
01:46:35.000 Yeah, like what is happening?
01:46:36.000 How did you lose your fucking mind?
01:46:37.000 But that was when everybody was so confused and so mentally ill.
01:46:41.000 I think as a society, we mentally had a cold.
01:46:44.000 We were all like, oh, no one felt healthy.
01:46:47.000 The whole country was mentally ill.
01:46:50.000 Legitimately.
01:46:51.000 And that's how they pulled that out.
01:46:53.000 That's peak woke.
01:46:54.000 You know what they'll say to each other?
01:46:55.000 They'll go, ah, that was 2020, dude.
01:46:57.000 Ah!
01:46:57.000 Because they'll dismiss it as crazy.
01:46:59.000 They'll go, oh, that's different.
01:47:01.000 That was 2020. That was fucking...
01:47:03.000 He's gonna bring up 2020 again.
01:47:05.000 That was 40 months ago.
01:47:06.000 Right.
01:47:07.000 Let it go.
01:47:08.000 Exactly.
01:47:09.000 Where's the apologies?
01:47:10.000 What's the big deal?
01:47:11.000 Where's the, hey, we were...
01:47:12.000 They're not coming.
01:47:13.000 Hey, you know, maybe we were wrong about that.
01:47:16.000 When are you ever gonna hear that?
01:47:18.000 Not only did they not admit that they were wrong, but now they're the victims.
01:47:22.000 You know, everybody else is spreading misinformation, and we have to censor online speech.
01:47:27.000 What about you guys?
01:47:29.000 You got us into the Iraq war with misinformation, you cunts.
01:47:33.000 I've been wrong all the time.
01:47:34.000 And I just go, yeah, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know.
01:47:37.000 I've been wrong on this fucking podcast right now.
01:47:39.000 But the left will just go, no, that's different.
01:47:43.000 I'm like, can you just at least say we're sorry for calling you a...
01:47:47.000 A super-spreading jerk because you wanted to leave your house to get coffee?
01:47:51.000 Can I get one?
01:47:53.000 Yeah.
01:47:53.000 They were wrong about everything and they gaslit the whole fucking world.
01:47:57.000 And they got away with it.
01:47:58.000 And they got away with it.
01:47:59.000 And they almost got away with demonizing their political opponent and putting him in jail.
01:48:04.000 They almost got him in jail.
01:48:05.000 Oh my gosh.
01:48:05.000 They came real close.
01:48:06.000 Yeah, that's so scary.
01:48:07.000 They convicted him for 34 felonies.
01:48:09.000 Things that aren't even felonies.
01:48:10.000 And also, people can't even tell you what those felonies are.
01:48:12.000 It's more fun to call someone a felon.
01:48:15.000 Yeah, well that's why you got convicted in the first place.
01:48:17.000 It was all political.
01:48:18.000 It was like name-calling.
01:48:20.000 The whole world just lost its mind in four years.
01:48:23.000 In four years, everybody just...
01:48:25.000 It was like, there was so many contributing factors.
01:48:27.000 The hatred of Trump, and then there was the coronavirus, the chaos, and then...
01:48:31.000 The racism, the sexism.
01:48:33.000 Yeah, the George Floyd thing, and then Biden seems to be dead, and he's still running the country.
01:48:37.000 Like, what's happening?
01:48:38.000 I know.
01:48:39.000 And then, you know, and then now, finally, when Trump won, it was like the first time in a long time, I was like, whew, maybe we're gonna be okay.
01:48:47.000 You see the stuff that he's saying about the colleges, the gender...
01:48:50.000 I love it.
01:48:50.000 I'm very optimistic about it, yeah.
01:48:51.000 This is like what most logical, sensible people have been saying.
01:48:56.000 The double standard is just really fascinating to me.
01:49:00.000 What's the Bosa guy from the 49ers?
01:49:03.000 He comes in while they're interviewing the guys that were the stars of the game.
01:49:06.000 He runs up and puts his MAGA hat on and then he leaves and everyone's like, well, he's gonna have to be fined for that.
01:49:12.000 You can't make political statements.
01:49:14.000 I'm like, I don't know if you remember that BLM that was on the field Like all their helmets said...
01:49:20.000 Right, but that's different.
01:49:21.000 That's not a political statement.
01:49:23.000 That's pretty political.
01:49:24.000 Yeah, it's a cultural statement more than it's a politician you're supporting.
01:49:28.000 There's a big difference between someone you're supporting.
01:49:29.000 You don't find that political.
01:49:30.000 Stop, don't shoot isn't political.
01:49:34.000 It's not political in a sense where someone's running for office.
01:49:37.000 There's a difference between, like, you're promoting someone running for office while it's on television, and they don't want you doing that on television.
01:49:43.000 The other thing is, like, you're taking a cultural stand.
01:49:47.000 It's a different thing.
01:49:49.000 It's got political aspects to it.
01:49:51.000 It's political in nature.
01:49:52.000 It's supported primarily by the left, right?
01:49:55.000 Okay.
01:49:55.000 But it's not the same as— It's not vote for so-and-so.
01:49:58.000 Right, right.
01:49:59.000 Right.
01:49:59.000 But if he had a Vote for Harris hat on, I bet nobody would give a fuck.
01:50:04.000 I don't know.
01:50:04.000 That's the difference.
01:50:04.000 Yeah, but that is interesting.
01:50:06.000 I remember seeing that and going, we're going to have to fine all those other players who defund the police on their things.
01:50:12.000 Yeah, a little different.
01:50:14.000 It's different.
01:50:15.000 It's a social issue.
01:50:16.000 But I think the point's the same.
01:50:18.000 It's also like, how many of these fucking dudes who do this stuff just do it because they know they're going to get social media cred?
01:50:24.000 Oh yeah, that's tough to figure out too.
01:50:26.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that in the world today.
01:50:29.000 Like, when people know that you can say certain things, it's hard to know what you really think.
01:50:34.000 Right?
01:50:34.000 I've gotten accused of pandering, right?
01:50:36.000 They're like, oh, he's pandering to the right or whatever.
01:50:39.000 You know, Finesse Mitchell goes, you're getting real political lately to me.
01:50:42.000 And I was like, why am I just saying what I think?
01:50:44.000 Also, like, I tell you this, too, is like, when I was in Seattle, You know, and I was, like, making jokes.
01:50:50.000 Like, nobody goes, wow, you're really leaning into this left stuff.
01:50:53.000 You know, like, when comics are going up and talking about all the things they talk about, I don't go, oh, trying to make that Obama money, huh?
01:50:59.000 Like, no, they just are saying what they think.
01:51:01.000 Nobody ever accuses people of pandering until you do it, like, on the conservative side.
01:51:06.000 Then they think you're pandering.
01:51:08.000 People do like when they catch people pandering, though.
01:51:10.000 If you can catch them, but how do you know?
01:51:12.000 Well, they like to accuse people of pandering if they disagree with what that person says.
01:51:17.000 Bingo.
01:51:17.000 And our community, as far as stand-up comedians, has been very left-leaning.
01:51:20.000 Always.
01:51:21.000 And I've never once gone, oh, you're pandering to fit in here.
01:51:24.000 Or you're pandering to get on The Tonight Show.
01:51:26.000 Or you're pandering to get on Jimmy Kimmel.
01:51:27.000 Some people definitely do, though.
01:51:29.000 For sure.
01:51:29.000 But I never accuse them of that, because how am I supposed to know if they really feel like that way or not?
01:51:32.000 Right.
01:51:33.000 I don't care if you pander.
01:51:34.000 I really don't care, as long as it's funny.
01:51:36.000 Right.
01:51:37.000 You're pandering, but it's really hilarious.
01:51:39.000 But the problem with me, what I really get grossed out by is claptor.
01:51:43.000 Oh, yeah.
01:51:44.000 I'm guilty of it sometimes lately.
01:51:46.000 For sure, just in certain scenarios I've done it.
01:51:48.000 Yeah.
01:51:48.000 Where people just only want to say things that people are going to clap and agree to.
01:51:53.000 It's a punchline like, hey, you missed a whole part of this whole formula we're all participating in here.
01:51:58.000 This is a comedy club.
01:51:59.000 We're coming here for funsies.
01:52:01.000 100%.
01:52:01.000 Yeah.
01:52:02.000 Yeah, and I think also, too, that's why it's really rough to accuse someone of it.
01:52:07.000 Yeah.
01:52:07.000 Because you don't know.
01:52:09.000 Like, what is the difference between pandering and just playing to a crowd?
01:52:12.000 Mm-hmm.
01:52:12.000 Or you go, oh, hey, Joe, you gotta read the crowd.
01:52:15.000 Right.
01:52:15.000 Well, what's the difference between pandering and reading the crowd?
01:52:18.000 Yeah.
01:52:18.000 I guess reading a crowd is pandering, so then I guess, yes, in a way, I'm guilty of it, but we all are.
01:52:23.000 Yeah, I guess.
01:52:25.000 I've never been one for eating a crowd.
01:52:26.000 I was like...
01:52:27.000 You just do your thing.
01:52:28.000 Let's find out.
01:52:29.000 I like that.
01:52:30.000 Let's find out how much of this stuff works.
01:52:32.000 In Madison, Wisconsin, they go...
01:52:33.000 No, I was in...
01:52:35.000 Milwaukee, Wisconsin?
01:52:37.000 Somewhere in Wisconsin.
01:52:38.000 The people after the show go, I bet you don't do that material in LA. I go, damn sure I do.
01:52:42.000 Yeah, I do this material in LA for sure.
01:52:44.000 Yeah, people have this bizarre idea that you change your act depending upon who's in the crowd.
01:52:48.000 Right.
01:52:49.000 You know how hard it is to come up with all this stuff?
01:52:51.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:52:52.000 It takes me like fucking six months to come up with 20 minutes.
01:52:55.000 One new joke needs to be blossomed into a thing.
01:52:57.000 It needs to be watered.
01:52:58.000 But I will say, like, I'll change, you know, read a crowd.
01:53:00.000 Like, if it's a corporate event, I'm going to do different material.
01:53:03.000 I'll do different words of the same bits and things if I have to, like, I have to adjust, you know?
01:53:08.000 Yeah.
01:53:09.000 Oh, that's a different gig though, right?
01:53:10.000 Yeah.
01:53:11.000 The corporate gig is just, I'm only like hiking up my skirt and sticking my ass up in the air.
01:53:16.000 Dude, that's all it is.
01:53:18.000 That's the real luxury of being as successful as a lot of you comedians are.
01:53:23.000 You don't have to do that.
01:53:24.000 You don't have to do that.
01:53:25.000 The corporate gig...
01:53:26.000 I don't have to, but I still get offered it and I say yes, and I'm going, oh, it's tough.
01:53:30.000 Yeah, Ron White did one.
01:53:32.000 He goes, uh, I did it because they offered me a fuckload of money and it was the worst experience I ever had in my fucking life.
01:53:39.000 Stressful.
01:53:39.000 Why'd you do it?
01:53:40.000 You shouldn't have done it.
01:53:41.000 He goes, it was fucking terrible.
01:53:43.000 Yeah, it's stressful.
01:53:44.000 It also is kind of exciting, though.
01:53:46.000 I kind of crave those moments where I'm, like, nervous again.
01:53:49.000 Like, in February when I came and did Mothership for the first time, I was like, oh, this is exciting behind the curtain.
01:53:52.000 I'm a little nervous.
01:53:53.000 I'm a little nervous to go out there.
01:53:54.000 You're up in the balcony while I'm going, oh, I'm a little, like...
01:53:57.000 I like this.
01:53:58.000 Like, the first time I did The Tonight Show, I had all these, like, butterflies.
01:54:01.000 Like, that was...
01:54:01.000 I live for those kind of moments.
01:54:03.000 So, like...
01:54:05.000 You know, sometimes I'll take a corporate and I'm going off.
01:54:06.000 You should do a live special.
01:54:07.000 I'm pretty nervous.
01:54:08.000 I'd love to.
01:54:09.000 Yeah, that's...
01:54:09.000 I'd love to.
01:54:10.000 I did that because it made me nervous.
01:54:12.000 I said no to it at first.
01:54:14.000 Really?
01:54:14.000 Yeah.
01:54:15.000 I was like, no.
01:54:15.000 It's done.
01:54:16.000 One shot.
01:54:17.000 Yeah, but then I thought, oh, why are you being a pussy?
01:54:19.000 Then I called my manager back.
01:54:20.000 I said, don't say no yet.
01:54:21.000 Let me call you tomorrow.
01:54:22.000 I called him the next day.
01:54:23.000 I'm like, all right, we're good.
01:54:24.000 I love it.
01:54:24.000 I think that's the future.
01:54:25.000 Well, it's definitely you prepare for it more and you think about it in a different way than a regular show.
01:54:32.000 I prepared so much more than I ever do normally.
01:54:34.000 Well, you didn't have to sit around approving edits from people at a big corporation with a bunch of laptops who aren't creative who go, maybe this bit.
01:54:43.000 And you go, I'm the comedian.
01:54:44.000 Why are you editing that?
01:54:46.000 I think live's the future.
01:54:47.000 I had to do that once with a Comedy Central deal to do a special and I bailed on it.
01:54:53.000 Oh, really?
01:54:53.000 Yeah, just after the phone call.
01:54:55.000 I'm like, nope, can't do this.
01:54:56.000 It's like, you can't say that.
01:54:58.000 I'm like, why not?
01:54:59.000 What are we talking about?
01:55:00.000 Do you guys want funny or not funny?
01:55:02.000 I thought this was cable.
01:55:03.000 They've changed their standards, though.
01:55:05.000 And then, like, by 2014, I got away with a lot.
01:55:08.000 I got away with a lot when I did a Comedy Central special in 2014. But they now, I don't even know what they make anymore other than South Park.
01:55:19.000 Comedy Central?
01:55:20.000 I mean, do they even have South Park anymore?
01:55:21.000 I'm not sure if they're making new episodes, but they have that.
01:55:23.000 They play a lot of reruns of things, and then they also have all those daily shows, and all that stuff does good for them.
01:55:27.000 Okay, daily show, of course.
01:55:29.000 But, like, they used to have so many shows, man.
01:55:31.000 I just don't think TV can compete with internet anymore.
01:55:34.000 No.
01:55:34.000 And they had an app, too.
01:55:36.000 I know Comedy Central had an app for a while.
01:55:38.000 I don't know if they still have that running.
01:55:39.000 They still have a Comedy Central app?
01:55:41.000 You want to hear a good story about that?
01:55:42.000 They got folded into Paramount, I believe.
01:55:44.000 Oh, that makes sense.
01:55:45.000 And that's where the new South Park episodes are, right?
01:55:47.000 Mm-hmm.
01:55:48.000 What's that comedian's name that Joe List just made a documentary about?
01:55:54.000 Gosh, he's a great guy from Boston.
01:55:56.000 He now lives in the Keys of Florida.
01:55:58.000 He's a Boston comic, kind of a legend.
01:55:59.000 Tom Dustin?
01:56:00.000 Tom Dustin, yeah.
01:56:01.000 There's a great Tom Dustin story in Boston.
01:56:04.000 Where the women that ran Comedy Central were, like, in the crowd.
01:56:08.000 And it's like a showcase thing.
01:56:10.000 And the owner's like, just keep it clean.
01:56:12.000 This is the thing.
01:56:13.000 And Tom Dustin's already kind of a controversial guy as far as, like, the booker was like, you know, you know our reputation here and we're letting you do this because we want to help you, but, like, play ball.
01:56:24.000 So Tom Dustin goes out there and he's struggling a bit.
01:56:28.000 And just in the middle of the set, he just decides, I don't want to do this.
01:56:32.000 I don't want to jump through these hoops.
01:56:34.000 So he goes, I heard Comedy Central's here.
01:56:36.000 And everyone claps.
01:56:37.000 And he goes, how many fat, bearded, unfunny fucks are you going to put on the network this year?
01:56:43.000 And everyone's like mortified.
01:56:45.000 And then he's like, they're lighting him.
01:56:49.000 Get off the stage.
01:56:50.000 Get off the stage.
01:56:51.000 And then he raps and he's like, that's it.
01:56:54.000 And then he comes back and he goes, oh, I forgot.
01:56:56.000 You're all a bunch of N-word cunts.
01:56:58.000 Whoa!
01:56:59.000 Yeah, just says that to the audience.
01:57:02.000 Because he just wanted to stick it to the comedy club and the people.
01:57:06.000 Yeah, Tom Dustin.
01:57:08.000 Yeah, he's a legend, dude.
01:57:10.000 Great fucking funny guy, dude.
01:57:14.000 Must have missed him.
01:57:15.000 He's grinding.
01:57:17.000 He's grinding it out.
01:57:18.000 One of those Boston boys.
01:57:19.000 And where does he live now?
01:57:20.000 Now he lives in...
01:57:21.000 He started a comedy club in Key West.
01:57:23.000 What's it called?
01:57:25.000 I haven't played.
01:57:25.000 Because I know there is a comedy club in Key West that a lot of people go down to.
01:57:29.000 It's supposed to be a fun gig.
01:57:30.000 Doug does it.
01:57:30.000 Stanhope does it.
01:57:31.000 I know Swartzen.
01:57:32.000 I don't know if Swartzen's done it, but I know Swartzen was down there when I was down there.
01:57:37.000 So he just works his own club?
01:57:38.000 Yeah, just made his own, started his own club.
01:57:40.000 He's happy.
01:57:41.000 Pretty cool.
01:57:42.000 That's kind of what I did.
01:57:43.000 You guys did it in different ways, Joe.
01:57:46.000 Joe List!
01:57:47.000 Oh yeah, there you go.
01:57:49.000 Sam Talent, that's pretty cool.
01:57:50.000 You should fucking take a trip down to Key West.
01:57:52.000 Hell yeah, it's great.
01:57:52.000 Might be fun to do a gig down there, just for funsies.
01:57:55.000 Yeah, that'd help him out a lot too.
01:57:57.000 It's a fun area.
01:57:58.000 Those people are wild people.
01:57:59.000 I mean, that's been a wild place for a long ass time.
01:58:02.000 Very unchartered territory.
01:58:04.000 Yeah, kind of like, you know, nomads.
01:58:06.000 Like fucking Mad Max type shit.
01:58:08.000 I like it there, yeah.
01:58:09.000 And you can't just fly into the Keys.
01:58:11.000 I mean, if you can, I didn't know that you could, because I had to drive.
01:58:15.000 Dave Williamson drove me for like three hours, like, how long have we been in the Keys?
01:58:20.000 He's like, the gig's up here, don't worry.
01:58:21.000 You gotta go by cruise ship.
01:58:22.000 That's, well, I think that's how they get there, actually.
01:58:27.000 Have you done cruises?
01:58:28.000 Been on cruises?
01:58:28.000 No!
01:58:29.000 No!
01:58:31.000 Not me, dude.
01:58:32.000 Not into it.
01:58:33.000 Uh-uh.
01:58:33.000 Yeah.
01:58:34.000 No.
01:58:34.000 Well, you know what's funny about the cruise ships, while we're talking about corporate corruption, it's international waters.
01:58:41.000 They can just kill you.
01:58:42.000 Well, the casino, you're like, this kind of feels unfair.
01:58:46.000 And they're like, who are you going to complain to?
01:58:48.000 No one.
01:58:48.000 There's no pit boss that goes, don't worry, this is all sanctioned.
01:58:52.000 Of course it's unfair.
01:58:52.000 They're going to get you drunk and steal your money.
01:58:54.000 Oh, and the games are rigged.
01:58:56.000 They just steal it.
01:58:58.000 You go, I would like to talk to the casino commission.
01:59:00.000 They go, shut up, you're in the middle of the ocean.
01:59:02.000 And you talk to the guy that works there.
01:59:04.000 You're like, hey buddy, how much do you make?
01:59:06.000 And they're like, I make like a dollar a week.
01:59:07.000 You know, like some crazy thing.
01:59:09.000 They're just allowed to do that?
01:59:11.000 They give them free food and a bed.
01:59:12.000 Yeah, and the guy more than where I live.
01:59:15.000 How about those folks that live on cruise ships?
01:59:17.000 You know those certain folks that gave up their house and they just live on a cruise ship all year round?
01:59:21.000 I will say, and I promise I'm not trying to be contrarian here, because I love Tim Dillon, I love all these guys who will shit on cruise ships, and they're right.
01:59:28.000 Every bit of criticism that my favorite people in my life criticize about cruise ships, the other side of that coin is, some people just want to eat shit and look at things.
01:59:38.000 They want to be...
01:59:39.000 There are some people...
01:59:41.000 It's nice for my dad, you know?
01:59:43.000 He's happy to just go, okay, what are they playing, Rush Hour 2?
01:59:47.000 It's okay.
01:59:49.000 Those people are enjoying it.
01:59:50.000 Sure, it's a vacation, and you're with a whole bunch of people that are on vacation.
01:59:55.000 Sunburnt, you're all sitting around.
01:59:55.000 You got water slides and fucking all kinds of shit to do.
02:00:00.000 It's fine for them.
02:00:01.000 I get it.
02:00:01.000 It's not my brain.
02:00:03.000 Right.
02:00:03.000 I don't want to do it.
02:00:04.000 I don't sync up that way.
02:00:05.000 A nightmare for me.
02:00:06.000 But then every three days you get to waddle your fat ass off the boat and see Puerto Rico for three hours, and then you get back on the boat.
02:00:14.000 Some people, that's a pretty cool deal.
02:00:17.000 Some people.
02:00:18.000 Some people.
02:00:18.000 Yeah.
02:00:18.000 I don't want to perform on those things.
02:00:21.000 Well...
02:00:21.000 How many times have you done it?
02:00:22.000 Oh, I've only been on a cruise ship like probably three times and I got like some special deal.
02:00:27.000 Were you doing stand-up or were you...
02:00:28.000 I got to do stand-up.
02:00:30.000 Yeah.
02:00:30.000 Dude, Joe.
02:00:31.000 What a thing.
02:00:33.000 One of the other comics, Tom Cotter goes, don't be here, dude.
02:00:35.000 I know Tom Cotter.
02:00:36.000 Yeah, Tom's awesome.
02:00:36.000 He was the other comic on the boat.
02:00:38.000 He saw that I was doing it.
02:00:39.000 He goes, dude, you don't want to be on here.
02:00:41.000 He's like, go...
02:00:42.000 You got the rest of your life to be on a cruise ship, like, if this is where you want to end up.
02:00:47.000 And he was speaking to the comedy aspect of it.
02:00:50.000 Like, it was just pretty...
02:00:52.000 That's a dark statement.
02:00:53.000 Depressing.
02:00:53.000 Yeah.
02:00:54.000 Because Tom's my age.
02:00:55.000 Tom's awesome.
02:00:56.000 I've known Tom since we were open micers.
02:00:57.000 Really?
02:00:58.000 Yeah.
02:00:58.000 The first time I ever went to an open mic night, I saw Tom on stage.
02:01:02.000 Really?
02:01:03.000 I just found out that Greg Fitzsimmons was a Boston guy.
02:01:06.000 He started a week after me.
02:01:07.000 Really?
02:01:08.000 Yeah, we both started together.
02:01:09.000 Do you consider yourself a Boston guy?
02:01:11.000 Yeah, that's where I started.
02:01:12.000 Nice.
02:01:13.000 I think you develop a kind of sense of comedy and of urgency, and the audience's attention span.
02:01:21.000 The comics from Boston, at least back in that day, they had sharp material.
02:01:26.000 There were too many good comics.
02:01:29.000 It was also a real...
02:01:32.000 It was a real pressure cooker because you had these guys that were these national-level comics that could have been some of the best comics in the country, but they never left Boston.
02:01:40.000 And so you're always working with these guys, these Steve Sweeney, Don Gavin, Kevin Knox, Lenny Clark.
02:01:46.000 They were monsters.
02:01:47.000 Yeah, Lenny would have been pissed if you didn't see him right there.
02:01:49.000 Oh, he was a monster.
02:01:50.000 He was the first guy, the second guy, actually, I ever get paid to open for.
02:01:55.000 Really?
02:01:55.000 Yeah.
02:01:56.000 Yeah, those guys are rock stars, and then they stayed put, and so you guys have to compete with the rock stars.
02:02:01.000 Exactly.
02:02:01.000 So Lenny got out, and he did a lot of TV shows and a bunch of stuff, but a lot of those guys, they stayed put, and they were still, fuck, like Steve Sweeney.
02:02:08.000 He's, to this day, one of the greatest killers on stage I've ever seen in my life.
02:02:12.000 They got destroyed back in the day.
02:02:15.000 Really?
02:02:15.000 I mean, destroyed.
02:02:16.000 And Boston did a dirty thing.
02:02:18.000 They did a dirty thing.
02:02:19.000 The dirty thing was, like, say if you're a famous comedian and you're coming to play Nick's Comedy Stop for the weekend, like Billy Crystal, they would put on Don Gavin, Kevin Knox, Steve Sweeney, Mike Donovan, and they would just eat shit.
02:02:36.000 And they would love that these guys would eat shit.
02:02:39.000 I like that.
02:02:39.000 They pay him all this money to go perform at this club.
02:02:43.000 This is a club, by the way, that would pay you in Coke or cash.
02:02:46.000 Oh yeah, that's old days.
02:02:47.000 Yeah, right there.
02:02:47.000 I've only read about that, which makes me so happy.
02:02:50.000 Like, you want Coke, money, or just Coke, or just money?
02:02:52.000 Back in the day, there was a club that used to do that.
02:02:54.000 I like that.
02:02:55.000 Yeah, and I think probably more than one.
02:02:57.000 Oh, for sure.
02:02:57.000 I mean, these were partying people.
02:02:59.000 I would hear about that all the time.
02:03:01.000 You know how they all got hit up, though?
02:03:02.000 What do you mean?
02:03:03.000 They were all getting paid cash.
02:03:06.000 They all didn't pay their taxes.
02:03:07.000 I remember opening for Greg Giraldo, the club that I started at.
02:03:12.000 He just used the open micers as free openers.
02:03:15.000 Like, pick up the comedian at the airport.
02:03:17.000 And we wanted to pick up Greg Giraldo and Chris Porter.
02:03:20.000 We were excited to pick up the comics from the airport.
02:03:23.000 But that was his way of not having to pay a car service to pick up the comics from the airport.
02:03:27.000 Oh, the club owner did that?
02:03:28.000 Yeah, the club owner did that.
02:03:29.000 But then he'd also be like, you guys are all gonna do short sets in front of the headliner, which we're excited to do, but that also means he doesn't have to pay us to open.
02:03:36.000 So he doesn't have to pay for a middle or a host.
02:03:37.000 So it was a trick, but we were happy to be part of the trick because we just wanted stage time.
02:03:42.000 Sure.
02:03:42.000 You get to hang out with Greg Giraldo.
02:03:43.000 How cool is that?
02:03:44.000 It's like you're being an intern.
02:03:45.000 Yeah, it felt like that.
02:03:46.000 Yeah, and I was happy with the trade.
02:03:47.000 You know, that stage time was valuable.
02:03:49.000 But, and I got to meet all, like, my heroes, you know, that came through.
02:03:52.000 And I remember Greg Giraldo, you know, he's clean now.
02:03:56.000 He's trying to be an honorable husband, and he's, you know, he's got the fix.
02:04:00.000 And he would just be like, you know, Jeff, if this was back in the day, we would have been knee-deep in coke.
02:04:05.000 And I'm like, let's do that now!
02:04:06.000 Like, why?
02:04:07.000 Like, why?
02:04:08.000 Why do I? How did I miss it?
02:04:10.000 You know, like I'm reading about all these tales.
02:04:12.000 It's unsustainable.
02:04:13.000 Yeah.
02:04:14.000 The only guy who's been able to sustain partying for an entire career is Stan Hope.
02:04:19.000 Yeah, well, or they die.
02:04:20.000 Dangerfield was doing it till the end.
02:04:22.000 He did it till the end.
02:04:23.000 Yeah.
02:04:23.000 He was smoking pot and doing lines to the very end.
02:04:25.000 Yeah, but he was committed.
02:04:26.000 Oh, come on.
02:04:27.000 Yeah, well, this is comedy.
02:04:29.000 How great is the notes in the green room?
02:04:30.000 You saw me browsing those last night.
02:04:31.000 I was pretty into that.
02:04:33.000 Yeah.
02:04:33.000 How'd you get them?
02:04:34.000 His wife.
02:04:34.000 His wife gave them to us.
02:04:35.000 Really?
02:04:36.000 Yeah.
02:04:37.000 Whitney knows his wife, and when she found out we were opening up the club, I love that.
02:04:41.000 I love stuff like that.
02:04:43.000 I want to do something like what he did, where he had Rodney Dangerfield and Friends, where he did those HBO shows.
02:04:49.000 Oh, yeah.
02:04:50.000 Where he introduced the world to some of the best comics.
02:04:53.000 I want to do something like that.
02:04:54.000 You'd help a lot of guys, let me tell you.
02:04:57.000 Doing that from the mothership would be fucking amazing.
02:05:00.000 That would help a lot of guys.
02:05:01.000 I think there's guys out there that could use it, too.
02:05:04.000 There's guys out there that have, like, ten minutes of murder.
02:05:07.000 Right.
02:05:07.000 And just put those ten minutes of murder together and, you know, have four or five guys on a show and have some fun.
02:05:13.000 Would you be able to commit to picking the guys you like as opposed to the guys that Netflix wants you to plug?
02:05:18.000 No, if I was going to do Joe Rogan and Friends, it would have to be people that I really think are funny.
02:05:22.000 I love that.
02:05:22.000 Whether I know them or not.
02:05:24.000 I love that.
02:05:24.000 Like, people that I really admire.
02:05:26.000 And that's what...
02:05:28.000 What he did, what Rodney did, was different than anybody else other than Carson, who wasn't really a comedian, right?
02:05:34.000 So Johnny Carson was the way that everybody got famous.
02:05:36.000 You got on The Tonight Show.
02:05:37.000 You're the new Carson, by the way.
02:05:39.000 Oh, thank you.
02:05:39.000 I believe that.
02:05:40.000 And you get to sit next to Carson, like, holy shit, I'm sitting next to Carson.
02:05:43.000 And, like, he likes you so much.
02:05:44.000 You made it.
02:05:45.000 You were headlining in comedy clubs after that.
02:05:47.000 And traveling around the country, and, you know, there's guys like Rich Jenny did, like, dozens of films.
02:05:51.000 Yeah.
02:05:51.000 Richard Jenner was great.
02:05:52.000 Amazing.
02:05:53.000 A very unhappy man, but like a talented man.
02:05:55.000 Super depressed.
02:05:56.000 Yeah.
02:05:57.000 But then you had Rodney.
02:05:59.000 And what Rodney did is he introduced people to the HBO special comedians.
02:06:04.000 So these weren't comedians like Tonight Show clean comedians.
02:06:08.000 These were guys like Robert Schimmel, Dice Clay, Bill Hicks, Sam Kinison, Dom Herrera, Killers, Lenny Clark, Killers, Killers.
02:06:17.000 Yeah.
02:06:17.000 And, like, headliners already, like, and then they all got HBO specials.
02:06:22.000 Love it.
02:06:22.000 And then they all became, like, national talent and, like, people that would see them everywhere.
02:06:27.000 But it all came out of Rodney.
02:06:28.000 Because Rodney had this desire to introduce these comics to the rest of the world.
02:06:32.000 Love that.
02:06:33.000 Whereas nobody else was doing that.
02:06:34.000 And I love that.
02:06:35.000 That's how you help people.
02:06:36.000 Yeah.
02:06:37.000 Is by going, hey, I know this guy isn't famous.
02:06:39.000 He doesn't have a sitcom.
02:06:40.000 Yeah.
02:06:40.000 But I, right, I'm funny.
02:06:42.000 Here's the guy that I think is funny.
02:06:44.000 I also think our Rodney Dangerfield is Dave Attell.
02:06:47.000 Joke, joke, joke, joke, just crushing killer.
02:06:50.000 I think our Larry the Cable guy's Theo Vaughn.
02:06:52.000 Like, you know, like it's got the voice and the things and the you don't know what is a story and what is a joke.
02:06:57.000 But, you know, our Eddie Murphy's Kevin Hart.
02:07:01.000 You can cut, you know, our Normie is, our Norm MacDonald is kind of a Mark Normand.
02:07:05.000 Like, you have these kind of next guys.
02:07:08.000 Sort of.
02:07:09.000 I think they're all their own thing.
02:07:10.000 They are their own thing.
02:07:11.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't really think it's our this or our that.
02:07:13.000 I don't think about it that way.
02:07:14.000 Well, you don't think styles influence people?
02:07:16.000 Yeah, they definitely do.
02:07:17.000 For sure.
02:07:18.000 For sure.
02:07:18.000 I think, you know, like if you listen to Stephen Wright, then you listen to Mitch Hedberg.
02:07:22.000 Yeah, and that's great.
02:07:23.000 Yeah, sure.
02:07:24.000 That's beautiful.
02:07:25.000 Absurdist, non-sequiters.
02:07:27.000 Yeah.
02:07:27.000 I'm very inspired by Norm and Patrice and Simpsons.
02:07:30.000 Sure.
02:07:30.000 If you watch my act, you can go, I know all the things this guy watched.
02:07:35.000 But I think it tells his own thing.
02:07:37.000 I think he's one of the greatest of all time.
02:07:39.000 I really do.
02:07:40.000 Oh, I think so, too.
02:07:41.000 I saw him at the mothership one night.
02:07:43.000 I came in just to watch his set.
02:07:45.000 It was...
02:07:46.000 Amazing.
02:07:46.000 Machine Gun Joe.
02:07:47.000 And he's so in the groove.
02:07:50.000 He's just this Zen master on stage.
02:07:52.000 Every beat is perfect.
02:07:55.000 He's a master.
02:07:56.000 I love him.
02:07:57.000 He's so good.
02:07:57.000 He's so good at just talking shit, too, when he has everybody come on stage with him.
02:08:01.000 He gives everybody a microphone and they just start shitting on him.
02:08:03.000 Yeah, he's the best.
02:08:05.000 He also has still He's still maintained.
02:08:10.000 People like when you don't change, you know?
02:08:12.000 Like if you're a fat celebrity, you better stay fat.
02:08:15.000 We don't want to see you skinny.
02:08:16.000 And if you're a skinny person and you get fat, they go, what happened?
02:08:20.000 That's why child stars are doomed.
02:08:23.000 Because they're gonna have to change.
02:08:24.000 And you're gonna go, I liked him when he was a cute kid.
02:08:26.000 But I think the same thing is true with, like, Attell.
02:08:31.000 He still looks like he's broke.
02:08:33.000 Yeah.
02:08:34.000 You look at a tell, you're like, that guy, is he alright?
02:08:37.000 He dresses the same way every time you see him, even on his specials.
02:08:41.000 He could be 80 degrees outside.
02:08:43.000 He's got a jacket on.
02:08:44.000 Like a do-rag and a hat.
02:08:46.000 He's just bizarre.
02:08:47.000 I love that.
02:08:48.000 And I love that you're like, is he okay?
02:08:50.000 You're like, that's one of the best comedians in the world.
02:08:52.000 He's crushing it.
02:08:53.000 But he's really in his own little world.
02:08:55.000 He really does still read newspapers and he writes jokes in a coffee shop and his flip phone.
02:09:00.000 He texts you.
02:09:02.000 No, from a flip phone?
02:09:03.000 I didn't know that.
02:09:05.000 Every time I get a text from him, I appreciate it, because I know how long it took to make.
02:09:09.000 These fucking things take forever.
02:09:10.000 And he was in here, in the studio, and he was sitting there, and he had a text on me, and he was like, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo.
02:09:15.000 I was like, what are you doing?
02:09:16.000 Yeah, you're like my dad.
02:09:18.000 That's wild.
02:09:19.000 But he's right.
02:09:20.000 If you don't want to be connected to that world, you don't want to be influenced in, just stay in the zone.
02:09:24.000 And who's better at staying in the zone than him?
02:09:26.000 Nobody.
02:09:26.000 Who's better at coming up with new material?
02:09:28.000 Nobody.
02:09:28.000 Yeah, he's awesome.
02:09:29.000 So he's just like found this area to exist in.
02:09:32.000 Yeah, he's the best.
02:09:33.000 He's like, I'm good.
02:09:34.000 Yeah.
02:09:34.000 I'm good.
02:09:35.000 I love it.
02:09:36.000 I think he's one of the greats.
02:09:38.000 So we agree that he's one of the greats.
02:09:40.000 I had a couple of friends.
02:09:42.000 This was a long time ago.
02:09:42.000 We just went to a theater show.
02:09:43.000 We saw this comic.
02:09:44.000 He wasn't very funny.
02:09:45.000 They love to do that.
02:09:46.000 Oh, I saw this special.
02:09:47.000 It sucked.
02:09:48.000 You know, like they love to shit on it better than just going, we enjoyed it.
02:09:51.000 And so I go, oh, who'd you see?
02:09:52.000 And they go, I can't remember his name, but we'll text you if we can remember or whatever.
02:09:57.000 And I was like, okay, these are good friends of mine.
02:09:59.000 And so then later on they're like, oh, it was Dave Attell.
02:10:01.000 And I go, oh, you were wrong.
02:10:03.000 You are just wrong.
02:10:05.000 And they're like, no, it was really bad.
02:10:07.000 I go, wrong!
02:10:07.000 You're wrong!
02:10:08.000 There's just no way that that is, and I think that that's like the disconnect of like maybe a theater show.
02:10:14.000 Or like a Netflix special.
02:10:17.000 Were you talking to your friends?
02:10:18.000 Were you looking at your phone?
02:10:19.000 They wanted some crowd work or something.
02:10:21.000 I don't know what they expected, but I was like, you're wrong.
02:10:23.000 Like that's one of the greatest.
02:10:24.000 Yeah.
02:10:25.000 I think sometimes if a venue's too big, you know, and the person's all smart, like maybe that's, there's a disconnect there.
02:10:30.000 Maybe.
02:10:30.000 I don't know, but there's usually screens.
02:10:32.000 Yeah.
02:10:33.000 People have shitty tastes.
02:10:35.000 Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
02:10:36.000 Yeah, I've heard things like that before about other comedians that I think are awesome.
02:10:40.000 I'm like, shut up.
02:10:41.000 Well, and also the stadium's laughing and going, this guy's the best, and then my dumb friends are going- I thought they were all cheap jokes.
02:10:46.000 Are you being my favorite kind?
02:10:48.000 Shut the fuck up.
02:10:50.000 Shut the fuck up.
02:10:51.000 I like a good cheap joke.
02:10:52.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:10:53.000 A cheap joke that makes me laugh is fun.
02:10:54.000 Did it work?
02:10:55.000 Yeah, I should laugh.
02:10:56.000 I'm not necessarily a connoisseur.
02:10:59.000 I'm just here to have a good time.
02:11:01.000 Well, I do think that's a good thing, too, about taste.
02:11:03.000 I think it was in Dave Grohl's book.
02:11:05.000 He was like, I'll drink shitty coffee from a gas station, but I also appreciate a nice espresso.
02:11:12.000 I think that's a good way to think about even jokes.
02:11:15.000 I'll take a one-liner, a cheap joke, I'll take a story, a misdirection, I'll take anything.
02:11:19.000 Just make me laugh.
02:11:21.000 Yeah.
02:11:21.000 I like the good stuff and the bad stuff.
02:11:22.000 But the thing that's hard for comics is to maintain an audience enthusiasm.
02:11:28.000 To watch comedy and appreciate it like you used to before you were a comic.
02:11:33.000 Because you know the tricks.
02:11:36.000 It's one way when you see someone doing hacky stuff.
02:11:40.000 Like, yuck.
02:11:41.000 But just fun.
02:11:42.000 Just have a good time.
02:11:44.000 Don't start breaking down someone's bits.
02:11:46.000 You see comics, they can't laugh.
02:11:48.000 Watching things and everything is like, hmm, I don't know.
02:11:51.000 I don't think it's a little extra time to get to this joke.
02:11:53.000 Could have edited that out a little bit better.
02:11:55.000 You start like...
02:11:57.000 You know, too much.
02:11:59.000 I did that early.
02:12:01.000 I'd police guys.
02:12:02.000 When I was a passionate, obsessed with comedy open-miker, I would be like, you know, so-and-so has a bit about that subject.
02:12:09.000 And it's like, yeah, we're all talking about the same subjects, you know?
02:12:12.000 But I would be the guy that would be like, well, you shouldn't do that because Daniel Tosh has a thing.
02:12:17.000 But it was all bullshit.
02:12:19.000 It was just me being so passionate about it that I was overdoing it.
02:12:22.000 Well, you're probably applying those standards to yourself, too.
02:12:24.000 Yeah.
02:12:24.000 Oh, for sure.
02:12:25.000 Yeah.
02:12:25.000 So that's part of it.
02:12:26.000 You see someone who's like, come on, man.
02:12:28.000 You know that fucking Gilbert Gottfried had a bit about that.
02:12:31.000 Yeah.
02:12:31.000 But also, you don't want to overthink it.
02:12:33.000 I think you're 100% right.
02:12:34.000 Have fun with the crowd.
02:12:35.000 Be out there.
02:12:36.000 Yeah, and just be able to enjoy different kinds of comedy, too.
02:12:39.000 Some people just can't.
02:12:41.000 And there's so many people, particularly left-wing comics, comedy has to line up with their ideology, or they just won't get into it.
02:12:49.000 They can't.
02:12:50.000 I hate it.
02:12:51.000 I used to see that with Dice Clay.
02:12:52.000 That was the big one.
02:12:53.000 And we were talking about this last night, because I came in as a Dice Clay fan when I was a kid, and by the time Dice had gotten kicked off of MTV, and it was in fashion for comedians to call him a sexist and a pig,
02:13:09.000 and this guy, it's a character.
02:13:11.000 Yeah, what are you talking about?
02:13:12.000 Also, it's like, shut the fuck up.
02:13:14.000 Right.
02:13:16.000 There was so much jealousy.
02:13:18.000 There was jealousy about him, too, because he was the first comic that ever sold out arenas.
02:13:21.000 So he was selling out arenas when everybody else was struggling to fill a weekend at a little comedy club.
02:13:26.000 Like, what?
02:13:27.000 And these guys all started with him, and he was one of those guys that got on running Dangerfield special and just took off.
02:13:34.000 Interesting.
02:13:34.000 And then he did his own special.
02:13:35.000 I think it was called Dice Rules.
02:13:38.000 And that special took off.
02:13:40.000 And then, dude, he was everywhere.
02:13:42.000 And it was different than any other kind of comedy because everybody knew the nursery rhymes and they wanted to say it with them.
02:13:49.000 The hits.
02:13:49.000 So it was like going to a concert.
02:13:50.000 Yeah.
02:13:51.000 You know, what's in the bowl, bitch?
02:13:53.000 Oh!
02:13:54.000 And everybody would go, yeah!
02:13:55.000 Yeah, which if anyone was to criticize, you know, like I know a lot of the old dogs in Boston would be like these guys aren't doing anything different But right that's different.
02:14:04.000 Yeah, so you get something that's different That's working and then people will kind of get mad.
02:14:08.000 They were like you claimed you wanted something different and it's working It's working and it's different just because you do a different thing like if you're an observational comic Yes, you do a different thing doesn't mean that that thing that all 100% Tens of thousands of people are screaming and cheering for is wrong.
02:14:25.000 That's a crazy way of looking at it.
02:14:26.000 I'll give you a great example.
02:14:28.000 I was at Skankfest, right, this year in Vegas, which, what a treat, and so grateful to them for having me, so I don't ever want to make it sound like I'm not grateful, but I went and watched Carrot Top, Scott Thompson, right?
02:14:41.000 I went over to the Luxor, I watched the show, and then I come back to Skankfest, and I was like, oh, we were at Carrot Top, you know, and people were like, Carrot Top?
02:14:50.000 I was like, he's better than all of us, just so you know.
02:14:53.000 He's funny!
02:14:54.000 It's great, Joe.
02:14:57.000 90 minutes of not missing.
02:14:58.000 It was relevant as far as like he was doing topical things.
02:15:02.000 He had a P. Diddy joke that happened like the night before I saw him.
02:15:06.000 Like he had all the, you know, it wasn't all props.
02:15:08.000 There was a lot of topical stuff, tons of Trump stuff, political stuff.
02:15:12.000 There was like three, like maybe a one-minute segment where I was like Because I was going in with an open mind.
02:15:19.000 If it's going to be shit, I'll say it's shit.
02:15:20.000 And if it's great, I'll say it's great.
02:15:22.000 And there was one little chunk that I was like, that's a little hacky.
02:15:26.000 And it's like a Vegas Luxor joke about how they made it a pyramid because if you try to jump out the window, you'll just end back up at the casino.
02:15:35.000 I've heard that kind of thing.
02:15:37.000 But then I started thinking about it.
02:15:38.000 I was like, no.
02:15:39.000 He probably wrote that.
02:15:40.000 He's been doing this for 29 years.
02:15:42.000 Sometimes you'll watch Pryor, and he'll be like, black women are like this, white, and you go, that's hacky.
02:15:45.000 No, he did it first.
02:15:47.000 And so in my mind, I was like, 90 minutes of not missing, and he's the nicest guy in the world, and he's crushing it.
02:15:54.000 It's a great, great, great show.
02:15:56.000 Well, he was a guy that in the early days when he was taking off, everyone shit on.
02:16:02.000 Everyone shit on.
02:16:03.000 Including Hicks.
02:16:04.000 Hicks had a whole bit about Carrot Top.
02:16:06.000 Which sucks, because he's so good.
02:16:08.000 It was just a jealousy thing.
02:16:10.000 It was just shitting on the guy who was doing this thing that you think is somehow or another coloring outside the lines.
02:16:16.000 Which is crazy to me.
02:16:17.000 Didn't make any sense.
02:16:18.000 And then he also kind of was alienated from everybody because then he did a residency in Vegas.
02:16:23.000 He was like one of the first big guys to just do it.
02:16:25.000 He's been in Vegas forever.
02:16:26.000 29 years.
02:16:27.000 That's so crazy.
02:16:28.000 That's a long time.
02:16:29.000 And that means it must be pretty good.
02:16:31.000 He does well.
02:16:33.000 He's a funny guy.
02:16:34.000 He's a really nice guy.
02:16:35.000 Yeah, I saw a show.
02:16:37.000 It's so good.
02:16:38.000 He couldn't have been more humble.
02:16:40.000 It was just such a nice guy.
02:16:42.000 I said this to him.
02:16:44.000 I wanted him to hear it.
02:16:45.000 You know all the hate that my comedy friends do is just because it's become a thing.
02:16:51.000 It's not because it's real.
02:16:53.000 So, like, I think this happens in life.
02:16:54.000 Like, people go, oh, Henry Winkler.
02:16:56.000 Jeff, you worked with Henry Winkler.
02:16:57.000 Isn't he the nicest guy in the world?
02:16:58.000 Yes!
02:16:59.000 Henry Winkler's the nicest guy in the world.
02:17:00.000 But so are a lot of people.
02:17:02.000 Right.
02:17:03.000 But we've learned Henry Winkler's the nicest guy.
02:17:05.000 So we just repeat it.
02:17:06.000 You know, oh, Taylor Swift only sings about her ex-boyfriends.
02:17:09.000 Every musician sings about their exes.
02:17:11.000 Why is that Taylor Swift's thing?
02:17:13.000 Well, she's got a lot of it.
02:17:15.000 But it's just something we've heard and we repeat as like a hacky thing.
02:17:18.000 And I think that's the same with Carrot Top.
02:17:20.000 It became hack.
02:17:21.000 It became like a trend to make fun of him, but he didn't deserve it.
02:17:25.000 That act is killer.
02:17:27.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that.
02:17:28.000 That's Trump as a Nazi.
02:17:29.000 Right.
02:17:29.000 Yeah.
02:17:30.000 It's not fair.
02:17:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:17:31.000 There's a lot of that.
02:17:32.000 There's narratives.
02:17:33.000 There's headlines, clickbait narratives that just get spread.
02:17:36.000 I don't know.
02:17:37.000 I hate it.
02:17:37.000 It's easy to define people in a certain way.
02:17:39.000 They'll say, oh, I see it in like small things.
02:17:41.000 Oh, you know, you swallow 10 spiders a year.
02:17:44.000 I go, no, they don't.
02:17:46.000 What are you, sleeping outside with your mouth open?
02:17:48.000 What are you talking about?
02:17:49.000 Why are people repeating these things that aren't, oh, you know, you lose a million hairs a month.
02:17:53.000 You're like, no, you don't.
02:17:55.000 Like, where are these things being repeated or perpetuated?
02:17:57.000 The internet, just like we were talking about how much Lizzo made.
02:18:00.000 Yeah, exactly, yeah.
02:18:02.000 Which I'm probably going to wear that a little bit, but I think we got to the bottom of it.
02:18:06.000 Well, we probably are at least semi-accurate.
02:18:09.000 I just wonder who came up with that list in the first place.
02:18:12.000 Well, but there's a difference between me saying something wrong on your podcast and millions of people repeating a thing that they heard about Carrot Top.
02:18:21.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:18:22.000 I don't understand how that becomes a reputation.
02:18:25.000 And now this guy lives in some world where he goes, everyone hates me and even family guys shitting on me.
02:18:30.000 I don't deserve this.
02:18:31.000 Well, one of the things he said that after he came on my show, he started getting a lot of love.
02:18:34.000 Oh, good.
02:18:35.000 He said it was way different.
02:18:36.000 A lot of people were going to the shows that were fans of my show and then wanted to come see them.
02:18:42.000 Yeah, it's like he turned a corner and he should have never had to do that.
02:18:45.000 I never met the guy.
02:18:46.000 I didn't meet him until I did a podcast with him.
02:18:49.000 So for me, it was cool to just have fun with him.
02:18:55.000 Let him get out of that.
02:18:57.000 He's a comedian.
02:18:58.000 Yeah, he's a nice guy.
02:19:00.000 He's not hurting anybody.
02:19:01.000 He's a sweetheart of a guy.
02:19:03.000 I feel like what happened to more prop comics...
02:19:06.000 They all went away because he's so successful, he defined prop comedy.
02:19:11.000 He's like Weird Al.
02:19:11.000 Yeah.
02:19:12.000 You don't see parody music anymore.
02:19:14.000 Weird Al goes, I got 50 albums, who's next?
02:19:17.000 You don't see anybody smashing watermelons.
02:19:19.000 Gallagher did it, and that's the only one.
02:19:21.000 Well, I guess Bo Burnham does musical parody, but it's not the same.
02:19:24.000 Sure, he does it, but he started on YouTube, right?
02:19:28.000 But it isn't like he doesn't take a song...
02:19:30.000 You know how Weird Al would take Michael Jackson's song so you knew the song and then you'd repeat it.
02:19:35.000 Yeah, which is great.
02:19:37.000 I loved Weird Al.
02:19:38.000 I haven't thought about him in a long time.
02:19:41.000 But prop comics.
02:19:43.000 It's over.
02:19:44.000 It's it.
02:19:44.000 Like puppet comics.
02:19:45.000 They went away.
02:19:47.000 You have Jeff Dunham and that's it.
02:19:49.000 What was the guy?
02:19:50.000 I know you'll know this.
02:19:51.000 Otto and George?
02:19:52.000 I didn't have to say it.
02:19:53.000 So funny.
02:19:54.000 A dirty ventriloquist.
02:19:55.000 I used to work with Otto.
02:19:56.000 We used to do these prom shows at Dangerfields.
02:20:00.000 So when I first moved to New York City, Dangerfields was one of the clubs that I worked at the most because it was like, first of all, I couldn't believe it was Rodney Dangerfield's club and they actually filmed one of Dangerfield's specials there.
02:20:12.000 So you were like a fan of Dangerfield.
02:20:13.000 Oh, a huge fan.
02:20:15.000 And we'd do these prom shows.
02:20:17.000 The prom shows would start at like 7 p.m.
02:20:19.000 or whatever it was, and they would go on until 4 o'clock in the fucking morning.
02:20:23.000 And it was kids, like from the Bronx and Staten Island.
02:20:26.000 They'd come in on buses and limos, and they'd all be drunk, and they would fill up these fucking little clubs with these kids, and then just...
02:20:35.000 Want you to do the same material the next show so the kids leave.
02:20:38.000 So they never had the kids leave.
02:20:40.000 So they would tell you, hey, you've got to stop doing new material.
02:20:44.000 Do the same material every time.
02:20:45.000 I'm like, I'm not doing the same material.
02:20:47.000 Why?
02:20:47.000 I'm not going to bomb.
02:20:49.000 I'm here to do my set.
02:20:50.000 You can't tell me what to do.
02:20:52.000 You've got me here for five sets.
02:20:53.000 If I look and that same drunk kid is in the front row, I'm gonna do a new set.
02:20:58.000 Yeah, that's great.
02:20:58.000 You know, I have another ten minutes.
02:21:00.000 Trying to grow, yeah.
02:21:00.000 Yeah, I mean, it was fucking ridiculous, but the shows would go on forever and ever, and I did a bunch of them with Otto.
02:21:06.000 Oh, wow.
02:21:07.000 I'm so jealous to hear that.
02:21:09.000 Do you think that the internet has a lot of Otto and George?
02:21:11.000 There's a few.
02:21:12.000 Like, you can find stuff?
02:21:13.000 You had to see him live, because you couldn't believe what the fuck he was saying.
02:21:17.000 He was amazing.
02:21:17.000 He was so wild.
02:21:18.000 Yeah.
02:21:19.000 He would say the fucking craziest shit, and then he would say to the puppet, George, what the fuck are you saying?
02:21:25.000 I can't believe you talk like that.
02:21:27.000 Yeah, which is great.
02:21:27.000 You got an out, but it's your hand.
02:21:29.000 That's the...
02:21:29.000 Oh, here we go.
02:21:31.000 Yeah, it's so funny.
02:21:33.000 Dirtiest Dozen, 1988. I love it.
02:21:36.000 I love that this is on the internet.
02:21:37.000 I'm fucking uncomfortable here.
02:21:40.000 Gotta take a shit and everything.
02:21:42.000 Sorry.
02:21:42.000 I had a ride here in the trunk of the car.
02:21:45.000 It sucked.
02:21:45.000 It was boring.
02:21:46.000 I turtle waxed my dick.
02:21:48.000 I was so fucking bored in there.
02:21:51.000 Johnson's turtle wax.
02:21:52.000 Three coats.
02:21:53.000 I want to see the water jumping off of it.
02:21:56.000 That's right.
02:21:57.000 I got a wooden cock.
02:21:58.000 I was circumcised with a pencil sharpener.
02:22:02.000 At least I stay hard when I'm drunk.
02:22:05.000 Lack it off your fucking hard arms.
02:22:09.000 George, please watch it.
02:22:10.000 There are ladies here.
02:22:11.000 There's ladies here?
02:22:13.000 Blowjobs!
02:22:14.000 Protein Slurpees!
02:22:15.000 Check it out!
02:22:16.000 He's like a star to me.
02:22:23.000 My girlfriend gave me skull last night.
02:22:26.000 She did a good job.
02:22:28.000 When she was done, my cock looked like a totem pole and her face looked like a glazed donut.
02:22:35.000 I just love the idea.
02:22:36.000 The premise is preposterous.
02:22:38.000 You had to see him live.
02:22:40.000 If you saw him live and you were in the room, it was so fun.
02:22:44.000 I know everyone talks about blowjobs now, but back at the time, that's pretty edgy stuff.
02:22:49.000 This is 88, right?
02:22:50.000 So he was kind of a wild dude.
02:22:53.000 Unfortunately, that kind of cost him a lot of substances.
02:22:57.000 A little off the rails.
02:23:00.000 A little crazy.
02:23:01.000 We had a couple of guys, these knuckleheads who lived in Seattle, but we looked up to them because anyone that was an older brother or somebody in comedy was a big deal to us.
02:23:10.000 And they did a thing called a robo.
02:23:12.000 And he had his own MySpace page and everything, and it was just this terrible robot.
02:23:15.000 It was a trashcan that they just put a box head on, and they had like two buttons, like it was on a race car kind of thing, so it could only spin, and the eyes would light up, and then when you hit like a thing, it would make his mouth make a little line of lights.
02:23:29.000 And the guy would just be in the back, a comedian would be in the back, reading his jokes off the notepad.
02:23:34.000 Oh, here it is, Robo!
02:23:36.000 And the jokes were just so...
02:23:40.000 Funny.
02:23:41.000 His head would fall off sometimes, but he'd be like, why do women wear makeup and perfume?
02:23:46.000 Because they're ugly and they stink.
02:23:48.000 And then he would like spin around.
02:23:50.000 Let me hear some of it.
02:23:54.000 I can't understand it.
02:23:58.000 Someone in there offered me some cocaine.
02:24:01.000 I said no thanks.
02:24:03.000 I'm already wired.
02:24:05.000 Get it?
02:24:08.000 It's terrible shit.
02:24:09.000 But like, yeah, you would just be like, why do women get their periods?
02:24:13.000 Because they deserve it.
02:24:14.000 And then all you like spin around.
02:24:16.000 And people would leave.
02:24:17.000 I mean, it's an open mic.
02:24:17.000 It was not like, at least Otto and George had like a sold out.
02:24:21.000 This would be two guys just drunkenly having a good time with terrible jokes and putting it on the robot, which is...
02:24:27.000 That's a really good idea.
02:24:28.000 So funny.
02:24:29.000 Well, it's cool because you can get that robot to say things just like you can get South Park to say things because they're not real people.
02:24:33.000 Oh, it's not me in the back with a microphone.
02:24:34.000 It's the robot.
02:24:36.000 Yeah, it's Cartman.
02:24:37.000 Right.
02:24:37.000 Oh, it's so funny.
02:24:38.000 It's not even a human.
02:24:39.000 It's a big round thing.
02:24:40.000 He said one time they got booked, too.
02:24:42.000 Or actually, the first time someone tried to book them, like, hey, Rob, oh, we would love to have you at our venue.
02:24:47.000 It's like, no, it's Robo.
02:24:48.000 It might have been an automated thing or something, but they thought it was so funny that someone tried to book them off of a video like that.
02:24:54.000 That's hilarious.
02:24:55.000 I love that kind of stuff, though.
02:24:56.000 Well, somebody probably thought that was a real act.
02:24:59.000 Yeah.
02:24:59.000 You could take it somewhere.
02:25:00.000 I love it.
02:25:00.000 You probably could have.
02:25:02.000 I mean, someone could easily do that.
02:25:04.000 Yeah.
02:25:05.000 I mean, how hard is it to do?
02:25:06.000 It's so funny.
02:25:07.000 Have you seen that comedian on Kill Tony?
02:25:08.000 What is the gentleman's name that has...
02:25:10.000 He has some sort of a neurological condition where he can't talk, so he has a Bluetooth speaker.
02:25:15.000 Oh, yeah.
02:25:16.000 He does his jokes.
02:25:17.000 I haven't seen him on Kill Tony, but...
02:25:19.000 He's at the QS Comedy Club in like two weeks.
02:25:21.000 Oh, that's right.
02:25:21.000 There's a calendar.
02:25:22.000 It's Aaron Belisle's name.
02:25:23.000 Aaron Belisle.
02:25:23.000 Yeah.
02:25:23.000 He's a very nice guy.
02:25:25.000 Funny, too.
02:25:26.000 Yeah, I've seen this guy on AGT or something.
02:25:28.000 Right, that's what it was.
02:25:29.000 It was on America's Got Talent.
02:25:30.000 Yeah, I've seen him.
02:25:32.000 I almost did a thing after him.
02:25:35.000 I had to follow him somewhere.
02:25:36.000 I can't remember what it was.
02:25:38.000 But it was for, like, Louis J. Gunn was one of these shows where being mean is like, okay, you know?
02:25:44.000 It encouraged.
02:25:45.000 Yeah, it encouraged.
02:25:46.000 It was like, Louis J is like, you gotta tell your most fucked up joke first and then try to get out of the hole.
02:25:52.000 And in my mind, I'm like, this sounds like a nightmare.
02:25:54.000 But they can tell us to do that.
02:25:56.000 And every comic made the same mistake where we came out and went, we tried to get, you know, comics, we try to play, we try to get around the rules a little bit.
02:26:04.000 I was going, he told us we had to say the most fucked up joke first.
02:26:07.000 So we all did that kind of buffer.
02:26:09.000 So it just didn't work for any of us.
02:26:10.000 But that guy was before me.
02:26:12.000 And so I thought about just recording into my phone like a thing, and acting like I'm him as my first thing, and I was like, this isn't gonna go over well, I'm just gonna...
02:26:21.000 Yeah, no one's gonna be on your side.
02:26:24.000 Right.
02:26:25.000 But I was like, you get a little more brave.
02:26:27.000 That guy has incredible balls to do that.
02:26:30.000 He can barely walk, can't move his arms well.
02:26:33.000 Playing your hand.
02:26:34.000 Yeah.
02:26:34.000 He's playing his hand.
02:26:36.000 He's playing his hand.
02:26:36.000 He's been dealt that.
02:26:37.000 Yeah.
02:26:38.000 And he's making the fucking best of it.
02:26:39.000 He's headlining in Key West.
02:26:40.000 100%.
02:26:41.000 Yeah.
02:26:41.000 I love it.
02:26:42.000 That's it.
02:26:42.000 That's a great example.
02:26:43.000 Playing your hand.
02:26:43.000 Yeah.
02:26:43.000 He didn't go, oh, this is bullshit.
02:26:45.000 Send me money.
02:26:46.000 Dude, I have to piss so bad.
02:26:47.000 What's up?
02:26:48.000 I have to piss so bad.
02:26:48.000 All right.
02:26:49.000 Should we wrap this up?
02:26:50.000 Yeah, let's do it, dude.
02:26:51.000 Last Cowboy.
02:26:52.000 Yes, Last Cowboy in LA comes out today.
02:26:55.000 Oh, alright.
02:26:56.000 It's out today, right?
02:26:57.000 This comes out tomorrow?
02:26:58.000 Where can people see it?
02:26:58.000 Yeah.
02:26:59.000 Yeah, so it comes out today, if you're hearing this.
02:27:02.000 It's on 800 Pound Gorilla, is the name of the production company.
02:27:05.000 So just go to YouTube, search Jeff Dye, Last Cowboy in LA, you can find it.
02:27:09.000 Hopefully you can search it.
02:27:10.000 Hopefully YouTube doesn't fuck your algorithm.
02:27:13.000 We'll see after some of this stuff.
02:27:15.000 My Trump interview.
02:27:15.000 Oh yeah, can we watch this?
02:27:17.000 Would that be alright?
02:27:17.000 I mean, it technically hasn't premiered yet.
02:27:19.000 I know, but this is a little trailer.
02:27:21.000 Can we watch the trailer?
02:27:22.000 Is that alright?
02:27:23.000 Yeah, let's watch the trailer and we'll wrap this up.
02:27:25.000 Everybody go see it.
02:27:33.000 My entire career, everybody in Hollywood's been like, you're not even famous.
02:27:36.000 I've never heard of you.
02:27:37.000 You're not famous.
02:27:38.000 You're not even famous.
02:27:39.000 You're not famous.
02:27:40.000 I have never heard of you.
02:27:41.000 You're not famous.
02:27:41.000 You're not even famous.
02:27:43.000 And then I have one bad day, and it's like, famous comedian, crashes car, fights cop.
02:27:47.000 I'm like, goddammit.
02:27:51.000 Where'd you film this?
02:27:52.000 Nashville.
02:27:54.000 Yes!
02:27:54.000 Yes!
02:27:55.000 Also, if I'm honest, I actually like trans women better than I like regular women.
02:28:00.000 I do.
02:28:01.000 Have you ever talked to a trans woman?
02:28:02.000 They're great.
02:28:03.000 They're like dudes.
02:28:05.000 Just for raw doggin' life, you know?
02:28:12.000 Was this at Zany's?
02:28:13.000 No.
02:28:14.000 Music venue.
02:28:16.000 This is brave, what I'm doing right now.
02:28:17.000 Hit him with the poetry!
02:28:19.000 Like, no, nothing.
02:28:22.000 I like her.
02:28:22.000 She likes naughty words.
02:28:23.000 Probably not a smart subject to do on my first special, but, you know, I just started cancer.
02:28:30.000 All right.
02:28:31.000 Last cowboy.
02:28:32.000 Last cowboy.
02:28:33.000 Check it out.
02:28:34.000 Thanks, brother.
02:28:34.000 Thanks for having me on, man.
02:28:35.000 Appreciate you.
02:28:35.000 My pleasure.
02:28:35.000 Bye, everybody.