The Joe Rogan Experience - November 20, 2024


Joe Rogan Experience #2231 - Jimmy Corsetti & Dan Richards


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3 hours and 9 minutes

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189.46341

Word Count

35,957

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3,085

Misogynist Sentences

23


Summary

In this episode of Mythology Uncensored, host Joe Rogan sits down with Dr. Dan Richards to discuss the recent debunking of Flint Dibble's theory about the origin of rice and the disappearance of the wild rice species. They discuss the history of rice, and what it means to be a wild rice grower. They also talk about the importance of genetics, and whether or not there is any evidence that rice has ever been domesticated in the wild. Joe and Dan also discuss some of the strangest things that have happened in the past, including the discovery of the Baalbek Stones and the discovery that the ancient Romans were responsible for the creation of the Pillars of the Earth. Joe also talks about his new book, Mythology Unraveled, which he co-authored with his good friend, Dr. Graham Greene. Mythology Unchained is a series of episodes exploring the history and theories of science and technology in general. This episode is brought to you by Gimlet Media and the New York Times bestselling author of The Dark Side Of: Mythology: Aeon Boy and the Mythology of the Ancient Trees, which you can read on the website of the New Yorker, Mother Earth Magazine, and The New Republic, where you can get a free copy of the book on Amazon Prime and subscribe on Audible, wherever you get your favorite streaming device. Subscribe to MythologyUncensored. and listen to the newest Mythology podcast on all major podcast directories, wherever else you re listening to podcasts. . This episode was produced and edited by Joseph Rogan, aka Joe Rogans, is available on all of the major news outlets and social medias, including Apple Podcasts, and is also available on the Apple App Store, Podchaser, Podcoin, and Podchronicity, and TikTok. , Podcharity, and PODCAST and Podcoin , wherever you listen to your favorite podcasting platform, and much more! of course, you can find us on PodChronology Unfiltered, and we'll be listening to this podcast on the PodChronicity. of all things Mythology, too! , and we hope you like it on your favourite podcasting on your feed, too, PodCharity, we'll send us your thoughts on this podcast, and your comments, , and other things related to the show, and we're listening to it!


Transcript

00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:13.000 Mr. Corsetti.
00:00:14.000 How are you, sir?
00:00:14.000 Very nice to meet you, by the way.
00:00:16.000 Nice to meet you, too, Joe.
00:00:17.000 Thank you very much for that video.
00:00:19.000 We talked about it before, but I don't want to say it publicly.
00:00:21.000 The debunking of the debunking by Flint Dibble.
00:00:26.000 You really nailed him on so many of those things that he was dishonest about.
00:00:31.000 I wish we knew in real time, but unfortunately, it takes a lot of research to be able to figure out what he was telling the truth about and what he wasn't.
00:00:39.000 Yeah.
00:00:41.000 Oh, thank you.
00:00:42.000 Tell everybody your site, too.
00:00:44.000 Oh, Dedunking.
00:00:45.000 Dedunking the past is my email.
00:00:47.000 Dedunking on YouTube or on Twitter.
00:00:50.000 That's with two D's like my X. Not debunking.
00:00:54.000 Sorry.
00:00:55.000 Oh, sorry.
00:00:56.000 That's okay.
00:00:56.000 I'm sorry.
00:00:57.000 Dedunking, not debunking.
00:00:58.000 Yes.
00:00:59.000 Dan Richards.
00:01:00.000 Dedunking.
00:01:00.000 Dan Richards.
00:01:01.000 Thank you.
00:01:01.000 Yeah, the thing with Flint, it was actually funny.
00:01:04.000 The moment that I knew that he was lying about the science was when you asked him about the feralization of plants.
00:01:11.000 That's where they roll back into being no longer domesticated.
00:01:14.000 And he was like, oh, it'll just take thousands of years.
00:01:15.000 It's like, no, no, no, no.
00:01:16.000 I've researched this, and I know better.
00:01:17.000 And he was just knee-jerking straight ahead.
00:01:19.000 Oh, just thousands of years.
00:01:20.000 And when you pressed him, he's like, well, I don't know for sure.
00:01:23.000 Well, that's a bummer because that's his field of study.
00:01:26.000 Which is really kind of crazy.
00:01:27.000 It's a really fascinating thing that seeds do adapt to agriculture.
00:01:32.000 They adapt to the fact that it's better for the survival of the plant if when you develop agriculture, if they're more robust and they stay on the plant, it's better for the wild if they break off easy and they can scatter better and they can proliferate.
00:01:45.000 Yeah, it's really basic if you think about it.
00:01:48.000 I mean, if it stays on the plant after it's ripe, it's just sitting there waiting for the first thing to come along and eat it.
00:01:54.000 But that whole natural selection thing when it comes to plants is so fascinating.
00:01:57.000 But the question was so simple.
00:01:59.000 If you stopped having agriculture and these plants just grew wild, would they go back to the same characteristics of wild plants?
00:02:05.000 And he was like, no, there's no evidence of that.
00:02:08.000 But then I saw your video, and then I looked at some other stuff, and there's quite a bit of evidence of it, particularly with wild rice, right?
00:02:13.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:02:14.000 Particularly with wild rice, yes.
00:02:15.000 That one it looks like, out of any of them, if there's a possibility that one was domesticated and then went back to the wild and then was domesticated again, it would be rice.
00:02:23.000 That shows multiple types.
00:02:26.000 There's different ways the seeds can break off, right?
00:02:28.000 They can break in different points of the plant or they can just fall straight out.
00:02:31.000 And rice shows numerous paths there, where wheat only has one genetic pathway to that seed shatter where the seed falls off.
00:02:38.000 So it gets pretty complicated, but rice does...
00:02:42.000 Rice does have a lot of genetic possibilities for that.
00:02:46.000 Now, I'm not a geneticist, so I'm sure that somebody's gonna come and, you know, say this is pseudo crap.
00:02:50.000 But ultimately, at the end of the day, Flint was treating it as a debate, whereas you and Graham were both trying to sift to the truth.
00:02:58.000 And that's why he was not gonna give Graham one little corner, one little shred of possibility of being right anywhere, when in reality, it's a lot of, just like everything else in life, it's a lot of gray.
00:03:08.000 Well, it's also, this whole subject of the past is, it's so obviously confusing.
00:03:16.000 Because when you look at, I watched your video today, the Baalbek video, just looking at the enormous size of those stones, there's no reasonable explanation how people, like, what is that dated to?
00:03:30.000 Like, what year do they believe it was made?
00:03:32.000 This is where it gets fun is because they credit it to the Romans and the Phoenicians.
00:03:36.000 However, it goes beyond the sophistication and the capabilities that the Romans were known to have, whether it's the existence of the screwjack for lifting the stones.
00:03:45.000 But Baalbek, which is located in Lebanon, and I had the great privilege of going there in September of last year, exactly one month before things kicked off in Israel with the whole Hamas thing.
00:03:55.000 And if I hadn't got there then, I wouldn't have no chance.
00:03:58.000 Like right now, Israel's bombing Lebanon, and so it's a dangerous place.
00:04:02.000 Thank you.
00:04:03.000 But Baalbek, if there was one example, one ancient site on Earth that is evidence of a lost, ancient, advanced civilizationโ€”and by advanced, I'm not talking about space lasers here.
00:04:13.000 I'm talking about more sophisticated than what we were taught in school for the known capabilities.
00:04:19.000 And Baalbek has the largest stones that were ever quarried in human history, the largest stones that were lifted, stacked, and transported in human history, and the largest stone columns in all of classical history.
00:04:29.000 And we're talkingโ€”so the Trilithon stones.
00:04:33.000 Three stones, 900 tons apiece, or 800 metric tons.
00:04:37.000 And they were moved a half a mile from the quarry.
00:04:39.000 They were lifted and stacked approximately 30 feet off the ground.
00:04:42.000 And when I say stacked, they were perfectly lined up.
00:04:45.000 And Jamie, it's in my folder of Baalbek if you want to show some of these.
00:04:48.000 And they're absolutely massive.
00:04:50.000 So let me tell you right here, and I, of course, have the gentleman there who I'll tell you about later highlighted just to kind of show you for perspective.
00:04:57.000 Like, that's someone right there.
00:04:58.000 It's 5'11".
00:04:59.000 Those stones that are highlighted in red are the trilithon stones.
00:05:03.000 But these pictures do not do it justice because it's taken through an ultra-wide camera lens.
00:05:07.000 From the top to bottom of the red highlighted stones is 14 feet.
00:05:12.000 And they're 62 feet long.
00:05:14.000 Or 62 feet, excuse me.
00:05:16.000 Like, there's me.
00:05:19.000 That's so crazy.
00:05:20.000 It's hard to tell because of the perspective.
00:05:22.000 And people need to kind of understand how a wide-angle lens...
00:05:25.000 It sort of distorts things by showing you this enormous field of view.
00:05:30.000 But when you're looking at something that's 14 feet long and 62 feet long and 14 feet high, what is the weight of that?
00:05:40.000 What's the overall weight?
00:05:42.000 900 imperial tons or 800 metric tons.
00:05:46.000 And to anyone listening, a metric ton is 2,200 pounds, 1,000 kilograms, and an imperial ton is 2,000 pounds.
00:05:52.000 So that's 1.7 million pounds, each of them, and there's three of them.
00:05:57.000 And if you were to go to the quarry, there's ones that are 1,200 tons and even 1,500 tons that are 20 feet tall.
00:06:04.000 This is mind-boggling.
00:06:06.000 Like, Jamie, if you want to just scroll through some of the other photos to kind of give Joe the perspective and the audience the perspective.
00:06:12.000 These are clearly cut stones that were moved into place and moved 23 feet above the ground.
00:06:19.000 Right.
00:06:20.000 And technically 30 feet because there's stones that are actually below the ground there that you can't see because it's submerged under the earth.
00:06:27.000 So technically it was 30 feet, but 23 feet off the ground today.
00:06:30.000 And right there, this highlights...
00:06:32.000 So not only is that 14 feet from top to bottom, which you would never realize when you're looking at this.
00:06:37.000 And these are confirmed measurements, by the way.
00:06:39.000 This is right out of encyclopedias.
00:06:40.000 But notice how they're completely flush, nice and even with each other.
00:06:46.000 And the...
00:06:47.000 This exceeds the known capabilities of what the Romans had.
00:06:50.000 And it's worth mentioning that this site is some 2,400 miles from Rome, the capital.
00:06:56.000 And if they're going to say that this was created by the Romans, one, people need to understand that the Romans were renowned for documenting everything.
00:07:02.000 Yet this site is not credited to anybody.
00:07:05.000 They don't know exactly who did it or when.
00:07:07.000 But the academics conclude that it had to have been the Romans or the Phoenicians because, of course, there was no one before them.
00:07:14.000 And with this photo right here, let me say something else.
00:07:17.000 There is evidence of at least two but arguably three different architectures that were done at this site.
00:07:23.000 And I would conclude that this is evidence that this site existed in prehistoric times.
00:07:28.000 There's also โ€“ I could show you encyclopedias that talk about Baalbek being prehistoric in nature dating back 11,000 years of human history.
00:07:38.000 Yeah.
00:07:58.000 As magnificent as that is, it is an architecture of mathematics and just brilliance.
00:08:04.000 But this right here, why would they use theโ€”for all the feats of Roman history, why would they have the most impressive feats over 2,000 miles away from the capital?
00:08:16.000 In fact, let me just say this.
00:08:18.000 When I'm talking about 900-ton stones, the largest stone in all of Rome is 53 tons.
00:08:22.000 It's the Trasians' capital block that make up the Trasians' column.
00:08:25.000 53 tons.
00:08:26.000 This is 15 times heavier.
00:08:29.000 There's a number of things, too.
00:08:30.000 Now, I'm not a huge believer in ancient technology.
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00:09:47.000 I'm not a big believer in ancient technology, as Jimmy's well aware.
00:09:50.000 Which is why it's important that you're here, because people are going to hear multiple perspectives.
00:09:54.000 Yeah, that's where I can tell you some things about Baalbek that are still interesting to me.
00:09:59.000 One of them is you don't see the Roman foot in those stones, which is weird.
00:10:03.000 You would expect to see some sort of breakdown of the Roman foot in these measurements, but they're not there at Baalbek.
00:10:08.000 They are there on the stones that were quarried from the ground.
00:10:10.000 By Roman foot, what you're saying is that there's a different measurement, what they considered a foot.
00:10:15.000 It's not 12 inches.
00:10:16.000 Correct.
00:10:16.000 There's a Roman unit of measurement that they would use in construction.
00:10:19.000 And we don't see it in those stones in the trilithon, but there's three stones that were quarried and left in the ground.
00:10:27.000 All of those stones show signs of using the Roman foot.
00:10:30.000 Jamie, will you scroll over to me?
00:10:32.000 So that right off the bat shows to me that the ones that were installed were not built by the Romans, but the ones that were quarried were made by the Romans.
00:10:40.000 They were trying to quarry out stones to match it.
00:10:44.000 Another thing is Roman architecture always uses the most impressive things right in the front.
00:10:50.000 You walk in the front of the thing, and that's where you're going to see the biggest stones, the most impressive, for obvious reasons.
00:10:55.000 These are in the back, completely on the opposite end of the entrance.
00:10:59.000 You have to, like, from what you told me, you kind of have to look for them if you don't know where they're at, right?
00:11:02.000 Like, you can't just show up on the site and they say, here's the Trilathon.
00:11:05.000 Well, let me tell you a quick story real quick.
00:11:07.000 So I had the pleasure of going there with some people and I'll tell you about it later.
00:11:10.000 I won't do the name drop just yet.
00:11:13.000 But Dory, who lives in Lebanon, he toured us around and he had been to the site three times before when we went.
00:11:19.000 It was his fourth time.
00:11:23.000 Yeah.
00:11:43.000 That's an excellent question.
00:11:45.000 You do have to walk.
00:11:46.000 To be honest, it's like a 12-15 minute walk to go around to get there.
00:11:50.000 I mean, it's part of the platform, but you have to go all the way around.
00:11:53.000 And some people just don't feel like making the walk.
00:11:55.000 And when we were there, we were totally alone for a half hour with these stones.
00:11:58.000 Not a single person.
00:12:00.000 There was hundreds of people at the site.
00:12:01.000 Not a single one of them came around back.
00:12:03.000 Now, just to clarify what the audience is seeing right now, this is at the quarry, which is a half mile away.
00:12:08.000 This is where all the stones originate from.
00:12:09.000 And this one right here is what's called the Stone of the Pregnant Woman.
00:12:13.000 It is 1200 tons.
00:12:15.000 As you can see, it's 14 feet tall, which is the same height.
00:12:18.000 So with those trilithon stones I was showing you a moment ago, The only difference is that this one's 68 feet long.
00:12:24.000 It's virtually the same size except for just a few feet shorter, but it's the same height.
00:12:28.000 So that gentleman right there, Pierre, who's a wonderful man, is six foot tall.
00:12:32.000 And look at him just dwarfed by this stone.
00:12:34.000 1,200 tons.
00:12:37.000 Insane.
00:12:37.000 Right.
00:12:37.000 And it's not from there.
00:12:40.000 No, it is.
00:12:41.000 So this is at the quarry.
00:12:43.000 So this one's at the quarry, but the ones that were placed, where are they from?
00:12:49.000 This quarry, which is a half mile away.
00:12:51.000 So they moved 1,800,000 pounds a half a mile.
00:13:17.000 Three of them.
00:13:18.000 Three of them.
00:13:18.000 A lot of people hear these numbers and they don't wrap their head around exactly how important this is, which is that go to the article involving the Los Angeles County Museum of Art.
00:13:29.000 It's in the same folder of Baalbek.
00:13:32.000 And the largest stone moved in modern times is 340 tons.
00:13:38.000 And we're going to come back to all these photos, too, because it's extremely important.
00:13:41.000 There's some details in here.
00:13:43.000 That's the one at that goofy museum in L.A.? Yes.
00:13:46.000 Which is, by the way, a very goofy museum.
00:13:49.000 Yeah?
00:13:49.000 I haven't been there.
00:13:50.000 It's so dumb.
00:13:51.000 It's so dumb.
00:13:53.000 There's an acrylic box that's on the ground that you're supposed to interpret as art.
00:13:57.000 It's just a box that's just sitting there.
00:13:59.000 It's one of those places where you go there and you go, what is my tax dollars going to?
00:14:03.000 You motherfuckers.
00:14:05.000 Go to the other folder that's moving stones.
00:14:08.000 So let me just, while he's looking for that, let me explain to you.
00:14:10.000 I saw the video on that, and so what this is, is there was a suspended stone.
00:14:15.000 It's an enormous stone that they placed there as part of their art piece.
00:14:19.000 Yeah.
00:14:20.000 And this thing was...
00:14:22.000 Not that one.
00:14:22.000 Not that one.
00:14:22.000 Not that, Jamie.
00:14:23.000 This has just failed.
00:14:24.000 Yeah, we'll play that video in a little bit.
00:14:26.000 It's pretty funny.
00:14:27.000 They had to move this stone.
00:14:29.000 It was four miles an hour is the fastest they can move it.
00:14:32.000 They had to build a structure around the stone to move it.
00:14:36.000 Yes.
00:14:37.000 And this fucking insanely huge truck.
00:14:40.000 Let me tell you.
00:14:41.000 So the details, it is a 200...
00:14:43.000 So they had to custom build a trailer truck around the stone itself.
00:14:47.000 Tell Jamie what...
00:14:48.000 Jamie, look under the moving stones folder.
00:14:50.000 There's not a folder, it's just a video.
00:14:53.000 Go to...
00:14:54.000 Let's see here.
00:14:55.000 Scroll down a little bit.
00:14:56.000 Go to Ramiseum statue.
00:15:00.000 Man, these silly...
00:15:01.000 You're using a Mac.
00:15:02.000 It doesn't show you the preview of the pictures.
00:15:05.000 Silly Macs.
00:15:06.000 Keep looking until you find the...
00:15:07.000 Of a big red truck, but I'll tell the audience while you're looking for it exactly what we're talking about here.
00:15:13.000 So, yeah, keep going.
00:15:15.000 All right, back...
00:15:15.000 There we go.
00:15:16.000 You're on it.
00:15:17.000 Go back a little bit.
00:15:18.000 Go back to the article three, go left like three times.
00:15:21.000 Right there.
00:15:22.000 Go back, or right there.
00:15:23.000 So this one stone, 340 tons, they call it the largest operation of its kind since the Egyptians built the pyramids.
00:15:31.000 They had to custom build a 260 foot long trailer truck that consists of 196 semi-truck wheels.
00:15:38.000 It has 44 axles, it's 32 feet long, it took a year of planning, it cost 10 million dollars.
00:15:43.000 It took nine days to move this 340 ton stone.
00:15:47.000 What a great use of taxpayers' money, $10 million.
00:15:49.000 There's no way they needed that money for LA. Yeah, who cares about potholes and homeless people?
00:15:55.000 No way.
00:15:55.000 I mean, this is more important.
00:15:57.000 And so this is what's so important, is that the largest stone moved in human history is at the Ramiseum.
00:16:03.000 It's the Ramiseum statue in Egypt.
00:16:05.000 It's 1,000 metric tons, which is 2.2 million pounds.
00:16:09.000 That was inexplicably moved 170 miles from the quarry in Aswan.
00:16:14.000 And here's the significance of this.
00:16:17.000 Brother, this stone at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is one-third the weight.
00:16:23.000 The stone at the Ramiseum is three times heavier.
00:16:26.000 And how far did they move that stone?
00:16:29.000 This one at the museum?
00:16:30.000 No, no, the one, the Ramiseum.
00:16:32.000 170 miles, and the other one was moved 106 miles.
00:16:35.000 A hundred and seventy miles and it's two million pounds.
00:16:39.000 And so this is where things get really fun is that they say, the academics, they say that the stones would have been moved on tree logs because that's their best guess.
00:16:50.000 And it's not an unreasonable guess.
00:16:52.000 But when you look into the nuance details, so I really nerded out hard on this.
00:16:56.000 There's a lot of people.
00:16:57.000 Are you familiar with the Mohs scale of hardness?
00:16:59.000 No.
00:16:59.000 So it's the measurement of stone and it's often used by alternative ancient history buffs to say that, hey, copper-based tooling could not have been utilized to cut granite stone like that's been claimed.
00:17:11.000 And there's no evidence that the Egyptians โ€“ the Egyptians never told us they used bronze tooling to cut the stones and make up the granite stones within the pyramid.
00:17:20.000 And so I started asking them, like, wait a second.
00:17:23.000 If they're going to say that they moved a 2.2 million pound stone on tree logs, well, they say that it was the cedar, the Lebanon cedar trees.
00:17:31.000 Well, I nerded out on this and there's something called the Jenka scale of hardness, which measures the hardness of wood.
00:17:38.000 And it's often used for if you're going to pick wood flooring in your house.
00:17:43.000 Very soft wood.
00:17:44.000 It's one of the softest on earth, not the softest, but it's so soft that it would never even be considered for flooring in your house because your furniture and your heels would dent it immediately.
00:17:52.000 And if you were to put significant weight on it, whatever that weight is, it would either crush it, crumble it, or at least dent it out of a circle or being a circular nature to roll on.
00:18:01.000 And so when you look into the nuanced details involving the mysterious accomplishments of the ancients, it becomes abundantly clear.
00:18:09.000 Like if I had one thesis, Yeah.
00:18:26.000 A thousand metric ton statue.
00:18:28.000 And this is right out of encyclopedias.
00:18:30.000 Show the statue.
00:18:31.000 So this is the statue.
00:18:33.000 It somehow or another fell.
00:18:35.000 Yeah, so it was a seated statue.
00:18:37.000 That's me in front of it.
00:18:38.000 And it's broken into multiple pieces.
00:18:40.000 There's some images, Jamie, of what it originally looked like.
00:18:45.000 So that foot, it's up to my belly button.
00:18:48.000 Like the top of the foot.
00:18:49.000 That's just the foot.
00:18:50.000 There's another picture, an illustration that would show you what it would have looked like when it was full.
00:18:56.000 Go back one.
00:18:57.000 So that's what it looks like from an aerial shot now.
00:19:00.000 It's completely toppled over.
00:19:01.000 God knows what would have taken to knock this thing over.
00:19:04.000 They say probably an earthquake.
00:19:06.000 It was a seated statue.
00:19:08.000 If it was a standing statue โ€“ That's what it looked like originally.
00:19:13.000 That's what they โ€“ yes.
00:19:15.000 And again, 1,000 metric tons is 2.2 million pounds.
00:19:18.000 How it got knocked over in itself to me might be indicators of some sort of cataclysm, but that's a side point.
00:19:24.000 But the point is this.
00:19:25.000 It was moved 170 miles.
00:19:28.000 The Egyptians did not articulate, illustrate, or describe how they would have done so.
00:19:33.000 Isn't that part of the problem with the burning of the Library of Alexandria is all that information was lost forever?
00:19:39.000 Yes.
00:19:40.000 Here's the thing.
00:19:41.000 Let me say this real quick.
00:19:42.000 Brother, the Library of Alexandria was like thousands of years before the Great Pyramid.
00:19:48.000 Like the Library of Alexandria was just after โ€“ was it 47 AD or BC that it got destroyed is believed, something around there.
00:19:55.000 So 2,000 years ago.
00:19:56.000 This statue is 3,000 years old according to the academics.
00:19:59.000 So this is 1,000 years before the Library of Alexandria.
00:20:01.000 So yeah, it's not unreasonable to suggest that they would have had information about how they constructed these things.
00:20:06.000 In fact, I want to believe that they did.
00:20:09.000 But it's gone.
00:20:10.000 Yeah, they might not have.
00:20:10.000 What were you going to say, James?
00:20:11.000 Well, you were talking about the โ€“ We look at the way that they move the stones, like you're talking about the cedar.
00:20:17.000 They moved one stone in human history that was really big.
00:20:21.000 The biggest stone ever moved was the Thunder Stone.
00:20:23.000 It was moved by Catherine the Great's people.
00:20:25.000 Late 1700s.
00:20:26.000 Late 1700s.
00:20:27.000 They used a big team of people and they moved this thing, not very far, like 10 miles, 8 miles, something like that.
00:20:33.000 Nine miles.
00:20:34.000 And half of it was over ocean.
00:20:35.000 And it took nine months.
00:20:36.000 I think?
00:20:56.000 We had metallurgy trying different kinds of ball bearings and shit.
00:21:00.000 That's something way outside.
00:21:02.000 I mean, the 1700s, we're talking right at the cusp of them actually making structural steel.
00:21:08.000 You know, this is the beginning of iron bridges and shit.
00:21:10.000 They were actually making good metallurgy then, and it still took trial and error to move this stone.
00:21:15.000 And it's โ€“ that stone is basically the same size as the ones at Baalbek, a tiny bit bigger.
00:21:20.000 But the same kind of issues where they would have had to have jacked that thing up, they would have had to โ€“ which would have took steel or hard, hard metal.
00:21:27.000 Basically they had to have some highly advanced metal ergy for the time.
00:21:30.000 Not as good as we have now but 1700s level of metal ergy.
00:21:34.000 That's what it would have taken.
00:21:37.000 The Romans did not have that level of sophistication.
00:21:40.000 Not even fucking close.
00:21:40.000 So that's the thing.
00:21:41.000 So there's something that you informed me of, Dan.
00:21:43.000 And let me just give you a shout out.
00:21:45.000 Hey, everybody, go subscribe to Dedunking on YouTube.
00:21:48.000 Your channel is a goldmine that is bringing โ€“ you are bridging together the facts that the alternative theorists are presenting as well as the academics.
00:21:56.000 And you're differentiating the truth.
00:21:58.000 And your channel is so valuable.
00:21:59.000 And what you taught me is that the invention of the screwjack โ€“ Yeah.
00:22:21.000 That stone would have just sat there.
00:22:22.000 You said something that you don't believe in ancient technology.
00:22:26.000 I don't believe in ancient high technology in the regards that, generally speaking, when you start getting...
00:22:31.000 Can you put this microphone...
00:22:31.000 I'm so sorry.
00:22:32.000 It's okay.
00:22:32.000 Put it like a fist from your face.
00:22:34.000 I'm so sorry about that.
00:22:35.000 That's okay.
00:22:36.000 I'm not a believer in ancient high technology in regards that I don't believe, like...
00:22:40.000 Even ancient steam engines would be, like, pushing it.
00:22:43.000 When you start talking, like...
00:22:45.000 Really advanced stuff.
00:22:46.000 I tend to look for other explanations.
00:22:50.000 I tend to look for...
00:22:51.000 You know, stone was the premier building material for hominids for like millions of years.
00:22:56.000 Literally millions of years.
00:22:58.000 So, father passed to his son how to do this sort of thing.
00:23:01.000 And eventually you get to a point where we start working with metal and that kind of just dies off.
00:23:06.000 We quit doing that for a while.
00:23:08.000 And then...
00:23:09.000 A thousand years goes by and we look at what our ancestors used to do and we're like, holy shit.
00:23:13.000 But I honestly think a lot of the stuff that if we just saw how they did it, we would just be like, well, fuck, why didn't I think of that?
00:23:18.000 But wait a minute.
00:23:19.000 When you're talking about moving things that are a thousand tons and you're moving them through the mountains, like how?
00:23:27.000 Why wouldn't you believe in some sort of ancient technology?
00:23:29.000 Well, let's put it this way.
00:23:30.000 I'm not opposed to the idea, but we need to get there first.
00:23:33.000 Like if we're going โ€“ like we're talking about the Thunder Stone or the Baalbek Stones.
00:23:38.000 Going from โ€“ like I feel like we need to exhaust every other possibility before we can start hanging our hat on something โ€“ Okay, what other possibilities could you even conceive of?
00:23:49.000 I'm open to the conversation.
00:23:51.000 But it is technology, right?
00:23:52.000 It has to be a form of very sophisticated technology if you're going to move something that heavy.
00:23:57.000 It would be definitely something better than we know or different than we know.
00:24:03.000 An example that I've used with Jim before was when World War II ended.
00:24:10.000 America ended all their sniper schools overseas to tighten the budget.
00:24:14.000 And when Vietnam started, we didn't have any sniper schools.
00:24:17.000 And the NCOs on the ground say, hey, we need trained snipers.
00:24:20.000 They had to actually recruit snipers, sharpshooters from the American Olympic team because we didn't have trained snipers anymore.
00:24:27.000 In 20 years, we had better tools, worse results because of the lack of skills.
00:24:33.000 So I'm of the opinion that there's some...
00:24:35.000 Right, but a sniper is something that we're all very well aware of.
00:24:40.000 It's conceivable.
00:24:41.000 It's obvious how you would do it.
00:24:43.000 You could explain it to the layperson.
00:24:46.000 Yeah, you can.
00:24:47.000 But it was something that still there was a skill set that was lost in just 20 years.
00:24:51.000 That's all.
00:24:51.000 I think that, like a lot of things, you see a lot of the ideas for moving the big rocks.
00:24:57.000 Some guys will use, like...
00:24:59.000 They think that water pressure vacuums were used to pull rocks up tubes.
00:25:04.000 You see all kinds of interesting hypotheses that use lower tech means.
00:25:09.000 Most of them, I think, don't work.
00:25:11.000 But I tend to think that those would be the direction we should be looking before we go to ancient high technology.
00:25:17.000 And again, the reason that I think that is...
00:25:21.000 Because if we do get to ancient high technology, we really need to have eliminated everything else by we get there in order to be taken seriously.
00:25:28.000 I guess that's kind of how I look at it.
00:25:29.000 I'm a more skeptical person.
00:25:31.000 Real quick.
00:25:31.000 So let's back up to this.
00:25:33.000 Let's see if we agree on this.
00:25:34.000 Would you agree that what we were taught in school, that the ancients were more sophisticated than the described narrative?
00:25:41.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:25:41.000 See, then there you go.
00:25:42.000 So we're on the same page because it's like...
00:25:44.000 What's technology?
00:25:45.000 Like, do they have space lasers and hydraulics?
00:25:48.000 I'm not suggesting that.
00:25:49.000 Bow and arrow is technology.
00:25:49.000 Right, a horse saddle technology, right?
00:25:52.000 So they had something else.
00:25:53.000 Oh yeah, definitely.
00:25:56.000 I think when most people think high technology, like you say, space lasers and stuff, powered things, like something where they were no longer using human power or water power, something they were harnessing energy or doing sophisticated chemistry, things like that's where I start to be like, well, I need more evidence to go that far with it.
00:26:13.000 However, the moving of the big rocks is something that I'm quick to say, but in order to do it, we would need If we were to do it, we would need technology well outside of what they had available to them at the time.
00:26:25.000 And in my opinion, if you look at those, like at Baalbek, to go back to that, you've got the three big stones that were put in a wall that don't have the Roman unit of measurement used.
00:26:35.000 And we've got three big rocks in the ground that do have the Roman unit of measurement.
00:26:39.000 I think that they gave up.
00:26:40.000 They realized they weren't able to do it.
00:26:41.000 They had one group carving them, and the guys tasked to move them, looked at them, what the fuck are you guys on?
00:26:45.000 There ain't no way we're moving these things.
00:26:46.000 You're on crack.
00:26:47.000 And the fact that it's undocumented, like the foundation of Baalbek is completely undocumented.
00:26:53.000 Go ahead.
00:26:53.000 You were saying something about dating it to 11,000 years.
00:26:58.000 So, Jamie, if you go to the Baalbek folder, you'll find an encyclopedia article that describes the evidence of human habitation at Baalbek dating back 9000 BC, which is 11,000 years ago.
00:27:09.000 And I'm not suggesting these stones were created back then.
00:27:13.000 I'm open to it.
00:27:14.000 What is the evidence?
00:27:15.000 Like what kind of evidence?
00:27:16.000 Pottery?
00:27:17.000 Oh, sure.
00:27:18.000 I'd have to go read through the scientific article, but it's โ€“ humans were there 11,000 years ago.
00:27:23.000 And the fact that they don't document โ€“ when the Romans were โ€“ yeah, see right there.
00:27:28.000 And there's another โ€“ History that dates back at least 11,000 years, encompassing significant periods such as prehistoric, Canaanite, Hellenistic, and Roman eras after Alexander the Great conquered the city in 334 BCE. He renamed it Helopolis?
00:27:43.000 Heliopolis?
00:27:44.000 Heliopolis.
00:27:45.000 Heliopolis.
00:27:46.000 Greek for Sun City.
00:27:48.000 The city flourished under Roman rule.
00:27:51.000 Now, let me say this real quick, Jamie.
00:27:53.000 Will you go to the picture of the mountains in this folder?
00:27:56.000 So this is something that's unbelievable.
00:27:58.000 All right.
00:27:58.000 So just scroll through all these photos of the mountains because here's something that people need to understand that is unbelievably significant, which is that at Baalbek...
00:28:06.000 There are approximately 200 rose granite columns that were transported from the Aswan quarry in Egypt, which is 700 miles as the bird flies.
00:28:15.000 And what's wild is that the only way to get them to Balbek, because the Balbek is located in the middle of the Lebanon mountains, and it has an...
00:28:24.000 Average elevation of 8,000 feet with peaks reaching over 10,000 feet.
00:28:28.000 As you can see, there's a freaking ski resort there, which I couldn't believe when I was driving there.
00:28:32.000 There was literally the ski lifts.
00:28:33.000 I went there in September.
00:28:35.000 So they had to bring all of those multi-ton stone columns from Egypt, and the only way to get there was over these mountains, which is mind-blowing.
00:28:44.000 And what you're saying by how the crow flies, as the crow flies, what people need to understand is that doesn't take into account elevation changes.
00:28:51.000 Right.
00:28:52.000 So if you have a flat line like a bird and you're flying from one point to another, that's 700 miles.
00:28:57.000 But if you have to go up and down and up and down and up and down, it's significantly larger in the measurement.
00:29:05.000 It's not 700 miles.
00:29:06.000 It's probably double that.
00:29:08.000 Right.
00:29:08.000 That's an excellent point.
00:29:10.000 And it's like, then the question is, like, why would they do this?
00:29:13.000 Like, why would they go out of there?
00:29:15.000 How and why?
00:29:16.000 How?
00:29:16.000 Why is like, it's cool.
00:29:18.000 But how is the real question?
00:29:20.000 Like, how do you mean?
00:29:21.000 Obviously, we built things because it's cool.
00:29:23.000 Right.
00:29:23.000 You know, if you go to the Acropolis and the Parthenon, you go, why did they do it?
00:29:26.000 It was fucking cool.
00:29:27.000 You know, it's People like to leave cool shit behind.
00:29:30.000 Right.
00:29:31.000 When you look at Baalbek, there's a lot of interesting things about it.
00:29:34.000 Like it has the largest temple of Jupiter out of anywhere on the Roman Empire.
00:29:37.000 Generally speaking, it's got some of the biggest temples in the Roman Empire period, but it's a far-flung corner of their empire, and it's not an important city really.
00:29:45.000 I mean, it's semi-important in the region, but it's certainly no Right.
00:29:50.000 But it has all these huge temples.
00:29:53.000 My opinion is, my thinking is that they showed up and there was this massive stonework there.
00:29:57.000 And these are the Romans.
00:29:58.000 They can't have the locals thinking their ancestors were better than the Romans.
00:30:03.000 So they fucking hijack it.
00:30:05.000 We just build big shit on top of it.
00:30:06.000 This is now ours.
00:30:07.000 We plant our stamp on it.
00:30:08.000 This is a Roman building.
00:30:09.000 This is all Roman now.
00:30:11.000 This was never your ancestors.
00:30:12.000 This was always ours.
00:30:13.000 And then the locals can't look to their forefathers or whatever legends they had in a couple generations.
00:30:19.000 Just the power of Rome.
00:30:20.000 Well, even the Parthenon, it's built on the Acropolis.
00:30:24.000 And the Acropolis is older than the Parthenon.
00:30:26.000 And it's, you know, who made that?
00:30:29.000 Everybody just shrugs their shoulders.
00:30:30.000 Yeah.
00:30:33.000 Other folks?
00:30:34.000 Stay away from the mysteries.
00:30:35.000 You know what's interesting about Baalbek as well is that it's in the Bible.
00:30:42.000 The Lebanon mountains are mentioned 103 times in the Bible.
00:30:45.000 I am not a Bible thumper.
00:30:47.000 I am a believer in a divine creation.
00:30:49.000 I'm proud to say it because I've seen the proof in my own life.
00:30:52.000 However, what's interesting about Baalbek is that they said that it was created by Baal, which is like this demon entity in the Bible.
00:30:59.000 And they declare it as the world's first civilization after the flood.
00:31:03.000 And it was created by giants as punishment for their iniquities of the flood.
00:31:08.000 And I have an article about it, James.
00:31:10.000 I mean, if you scroll through, you'll find it.
00:31:11.000 Now we're into Anunnaki territory.
00:31:13.000 There you go, right.
00:31:14.000 Exactly.
00:31:14.000 Stichon has entered the chat.
00:31:16.000 Hold on.
00:31:16.000 Go back to those cranes.
00:31:17.000 Let me tell you this.
00:31:18.000 So what you're looking at here is the Romans' most sophisticated crane in their history.
00:31:22.000 It had a max lifting capacity of 6.6 tons.
00:31:28.000 In other words, to lift just one of those trilithon stones, you would need 133 of these, which is obviously completely not feasible whatsoever.
00:31:37.000 You wouldn't have the space to do it, and it's just ridiculous to suggest you would coordinate 133 cranes around it.
00:31:43.000 So this is what I'm trying to say is that it's further suggestive evidence that the Romans didn't build it because they didn't have the capability to lift stones of that mass.
00:31:50.000 It's still pretty fascinating that the Romans were able to build a crane that could lift six tons.
00:31:55.000 That's amazing.
00:31:56.000 But not enough to even lift the stones that were inside the King's Chamber.
00:32:01.000 Right.
00:32:01.000 So let me put this into perspective.
00:32:04.000 So the largest stones inside the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid are approximately 80 tons imperial.
00:32:10.000 So actually 78 tons imperial or 70 tons metric.
00:32:13.000 Removed some 500 miles from the Aswan quarry and lifted and stacked hundreds of feet above the ground.
00:32:19.000 But here's what's wild is that those stones, the largest stones in the Great Pyramid, compared to the trilithon stones, the trilithon stones are 15 times heavier.
00:32:29.000 Not twice as heavy.
00:32:30.000 Not three times as heavy.
00:32:32.000 Not ten times as heavy.
00:32:32.000 As a guy who's skeptical of that stuff, ancient high technology, there's a couple of things that make it where it's like, I straight up can't explain.
00:32:39.000 Baalbek is one of them.
00:32:40.000 You could use those cranes and lay them on their side and drag that stone across the ground.
00:32:45.000 That's exactly what they did with the Thunderstone, Catherine the Great's time.
00:32:49.000 But then you are tasked with lifting that son of a bitch, and all of a sudden you're right back to where you started.
00:32:53.000 You can drag it across however you want, but when you get to picking it up 14 feet off the ground...
00:32:57.000 And they dragged it on those rails, though.
00:33:00.000 Yeah.
00:33:01.000 More than 23 feet off the ground.
00:33:03.000 Oh, yeah.
00:33:04.000 30 feet, right.
00:33:05.000 Yeah, it is 30 feet.
00:33:06.000 It's documented.
00:33:07.000 I have 23 feet illustrated because it's where the ground is now.
00:33:10.000 Right.
00:33:10.000 But the foundation of it goes subsurface.
00:33:15.000 So it's like, you know, with these details, like, there's a reason why there is a growing interest in In the mysteries of lost ancient civilizations because smart people of all kinds of walks of life are looking into the nuanced details and realizing like, oh, wait a second.
00:33:29.000 Like when Graham Hancock says that there's a missing chapter of human history, like this is reality.
00:33:34.000 We don't know how they built the Great Pyramid.
00:33:37.000 It is a fact that the Egyptians left us with no explanation of any kind.
00:33:41.000 Out of the tens of thousands of hieroglyphs all over Egypt, not a single one of them describes how they constructed the pyramid or how they cut granite stones.
00:33:48.000 Not one.
00:33:50.000 Yeah.
00:33:52.000 Big gaps in the knowledge is where we end up having these kinds of discussions.
00:33:57.000 And I think to go back to where we first started, we mentioned Flint at the beginning.
00:34:02.000 We have a problem, in my opinion, that most people that see things kind of like I do as opposed to like Jimmy or yourself does where I kind of need to take my steps to get to that ancient high technology, they end up going that just straight debunker route.
00:34:15.000 And then they get skeptical.
00:34:16.000 That's skeptical.
00:34:17.000 They get cynical.
00:34:18.000 They turn into assholes.
00:34:19.000 They turn into โ€“ they're looking for ways to โ€“ Appeal to authority.
00:34:21.000 Shoot this down.
00:34:22.000 I just โ€“ fuck your idea, right?
00:34:24.000 Your idea is wrong.
00:34:25.000 So I know what the implications are.
00:34:27.000 Instead of saying, well, maybe there's other implications.
00:34:29.000 Let's have a discussion about it.
00:34:30.000 They just go straight to, no, this is impossible.
00:34:33.000 This is stupid.
00:34:34.000 Make fun of the person.
00:34:35.000 Compare it to flat-eartherism.
00:34:36.000 Compare it to aliens.
00:34:38.000 Well, in Flint's case, he's even worse.
00:34:43.000 He somehow or another connects to white supremacy.
00:34:45.000 It's not just Flint.
00:34:46.000 It's that fucking John Hoops, man.
00:34:47.000 He's the one that started that shit.
00:34:50.000 That guy, Wikipedia, we can talk about that for a quick second.
00:34:54.000 John Hoops is a professor for Kansas University and he has been one of the earliest editors of Wikipedia consistently.
00:35:03.000 Graham Hancock's page, Younger Dryas' Impact Hypothesis page, All kinds of pseudo-archaeology and pyramids and Atlantis, all that shit.
00:35:11.000 He's got locked.
00:35:12.000 It's not just that he edits it.
00:35:14.000 Him and his buddies edit it, and you can't go in and edit it.
00:35:16.000 There's a scientist from the Comet Research Group that tried to edit the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis page and was told he can't because it's a conflict of interest.
00:35:24.000 A fucking scientist that works on this shit's a conflict of interest, but a scientist from outside the field isn't.
00:35:30.000 By the way, John Hoops studied at Harvard and Yale.
00:35:33.000 He got his undergrad, I believe, from Harvard and his PhD from Yale or vice versa.
00:35:38.000 This is significant because he's controlling the information.
00:35:41.000 And he hides this stuff too.
00:35:44.000 He'll tell you that...
00:35:46.000 I watched him tell Forbes, hey, you guys need to cite Wikipedia instead of just, because they said the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis, and they just made a real quick article about it with no skepticism.
00:35:55.000 He says, you need to cite Wikipedia as well.
00:35:57.000 He edits the Wikipedia page and doesn't mention that he edits it when he tells people to go look at the fucking thing.
00:36:02.000 What's his motivation for debunking this stuff?
00:36:06.000 He doesn't like Graham Hancock.
00:36:07.000 Same kind of thing.
00:36:09.000 He thinks pseudo-archaeology is all the isms.
00:36:11.000 If you believe in ancient high technology or you believe in Atlantis, you must be a white supremacist, a racist, a misogynist.
00:36:17.000 Let's forget about Atlantis for a minute, but I definitely want to talk about it.
00:36:19.000 But what you're seeing is impossible.
00:36:23.000 It's essentially impossible with today's technology.
00:36:26.000 When you're talking about those stones that were moved 700 miles through the mountains, If you tried to bring some engineers together in the United States in 2024, the best and the brightest, and said, here's your project, they would say, fuck you!
00:36:38.000 You can't do it!
00:36:40.000 Yeah, you would need super billionaire money, and even then, I don't know how you would do it.
00:36:45.000 I just don't, I can't conceivably think of a way.
00:36:49.000 And that's what's so interesting about this stuff is that whatever they did was not just complicated for the time.
00:36:56.000 It was so beyond our imagination of what was possible at the time that it's beyond our imagination of what's possible today.
00:37:07.000 Right.
00:37:07.000 So, it just, it throws this, these facts, the physical facts about the size and the location they were brought from, that fly in the face of logic and credibility and our understanding of what's possible, not just then, but today.
00:37:23.000 So, for anybody to say, oh, we've figured this out, hey man, fuck You definitely haven't, and the problem is that you have these fucking names attached to you.
00:37:34.000 Harvard and Yale.
00:37:35.000 And you've decided, because there's a group of people that have been studying this stuff, and they fucking wrote some shit down, and you studied what they wrote down, and you did your own studying, you got a degree, you're the guy.
00:37:46.000 You're the only one.
00:37:47.000 And it's these same fucking weirdo weasels that put their pronouns in their Twitter bio.
00:37:53.000 And they're just crackpots.
00:37:55.000 They're crackpots masquerading as intellectuals.
00:37:58.000 Because the things that they're saying are completely bizarre.
00:38:02.000 They're all, 100% of them are captured by this woke ideology.
00:38:08.000 100% of them.
00:38:09.000 They're weird people, man, because they exist in this structure that's been completely compromised.
00:38:13.000 And that's our education.
00:38:15.000 Our higher education systems have been completely compromised.
00:38:18.000 And this is not to say that they don't teach you amazing stuff about medicine and science.
00:38:22.000 Of course they do.
00:38:22.000 But they are also in a cult.
00:38:25.000 It is a total cult behavior.
00:38:28.000 And honestly, it's their religion.
00:38:30.000 It is a religion because they're mostly atheists.
00:38:32.000 Let me just share this.
00:38:35.000 So with the biggest critics and the naysayers of alternative theories...
00:38:38.000 There's a common denominator.
00:38:40.000 Like when you mentioned the pronouns in their profile, almost all of them have it and they're not trans.
00:38:44.000 And if you look at their political ideologies, it is extremely left.
00:38:48.000 And these people are visceral.
00:38:50.000 They're toxic.
00:38:51.000 And let me just make a side point that I almost forgot is when we're talking about Wikipedia, a lot of people say, well, that's why you don't look at Wikipedia.
00:38:57.000 You don't trust it.
00:38:58.000 Who cares about Wikipedia?
00:38:59.000 I'm like, excuse me.
00:39:00.000 It shows up at the top of Google on anything that you search.
00:39:03.000 So it cannot be ignored.
00:39:04.000 Right.
00:39:05.000 And when you were talking a moment ago about the impossibility of the movement of these stones, I want to just emphasize this point one more time, which is that movement of that 340-ton stone at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is one-third the weight of the largest stones in ancient history.
00:39:21.000 And when you look at what it took to do it, so it's like when people, you know, when you're using the word impossible, it's like, listen, what it took for us to do that, and it was a third of the weight, and he had to custom build this 260-foot-long truck with 196 wheels.
00:39:33.000 And we have internal costs.
00:39:34.000 Combustion engines.
00:39:35.000 Hydraulics.
00:39:36.000 We have roads that are flat and smooth.
00:39:38.000 Far better metal, far better ropes, and thousands of years of experience.
00:39:41.000 The roads.
00:39:42.000 One reason why they had to go 106 miles is because they had to go around different roads because most roads couldn't support the weight.
00:39:51.000 That's so crazy.
00:39:52.000 People, look into this.
00:39:53.000 Don't listen to Jimmy the YouTuber.
00:39:55.000 Like look into the details on yourself and you realize like this is completely inexplicable.
00:39:59.000 And it's so important now because we're living at a time where people are starting to realize that not everything we were taught was true.
00:40:06.000 In fact, a lot of things you see in the mainstream media nowadays have been utterly debunked.
00:40:09.000 It's all propaganda.
00:40:11.000 Right.
00:40:11.000 About history.
00:40:13.000 About recent history that's easily proven and the mainstream media will tell false narratives.
00:40:19.000 Absolutely.
00:40:20.000 And so we know that people lie.
00:40:22.000 So we know that people lie and we know that people love to be in a position of authority to be the only people that are allowed to distribute the truth.
00:40:30.000 We know that.
00:40:31.000 Do you want to get provocative real quick?
00:40:32.000 Sure.
00:40:33.000 So nowadays there's a lot of conjecture about the historical accuracy of different things involving World War II. And Jamie, if you were to go to the Baalbek folder, or in fact, go to the folder called swastika.
00:40:46.000 So this is something that I got tremendous heat for.
00:40:50.000 Whereas that when I went to Baalbek, I noticed that there were swastikas all over the place.
00:40:53.000 And I'm like, well, that's interesting.
00:40:56.000 That's an ancient symbol, though.
00:40:58.000 What a lot of people are not aware of is that the swastika is prehistoric.
00:41:02.000 It's found on five continents around the world and dates back approximately 10,000 years.
00:41:07.000 It is found in Europe, Africa, Asia, North and South America, all before trans-oceanic sea travel was thought to be possible.
00:41:15.000 If you scroll through the images, Jamie, you'll kind of give the audience an understanding.
00:41:18.000 Now, let me preface this whole conversation with this.
00:41:22.000 Fuck Hitler.
00:41:24.000 He stole the symbol, which was a symbol of peace, and he bastardized it.
00:41:32.000 So this right here, I took this photo.
00:41:33.000 You'd almost think it's photoshopped in.
00:41:35.000 This is a photo.
00:41:36.000 This is real.
00:41:38.000 And I'm like, well, this is fascinating.
00:41:40.000 I put this up on Twitter and I said, did Hitler know something about ancient history that we don't?
00:41:45.000 And the reason why โ€“ and this was a sincere question.
00:41:47.000 Everyone started calling me a Nazi.
00:41:49.000 I was spreading dangerous Nazism for it.
00:41:51.000 No, this is a grown-up conversation.
00:41:54.000 Hitler was a very โ€“ he was evil but he was intelligent and the Nazis were arguably the most technologically advanced people.
00:42:01.000 Country at that time in World War II. The jet engine, rockets.
00:42:05.000 And for some reason, for reasons that I cannot find a definitive answer on, is why was Hitler so into archaeology?
00:42:14.000 They call it Nazi archaeology.
00:42:16.000 And the mainstream people will say, oh, well, he weaponized, he was trying to get this Aryan thing going to unite people and just create an enemy.
00:42:23.000 People kick it to Himmler a lot.
00:42:24.000 They'll say that Himmler was the one that was really into that shit.
00:42:27.000 So that's Peru.
00:42:30.000 Like 800 years ago.
00:42:32.000 You'll find the Native Americans, the Pima Indians, the Navajo, the Apache.
00:42:37.000 There's actually a Hindu temple in Los Angeles that was near my old house.
00:42:42.000 And we went to visit it.
00:42:43.000 You could actually have weddings there.
00:42:45.000 And they had to have a sign up explaining why there were so many swastikas on the building.
00:42:49.000 The swastikas are all over it.
00:42:51.000 I went to Japan and it's the same thing there.
00:42:53.000 They had swastikas on different shrines.
00:42:54.000 Okinawan karate, when I was a kid, one of their patches was a swastika.
00:43:01.000 And this was when I was a kid.
00:43:02.000 So this is in the 80s when I first started studying martial arts.
00:43:06.000 You could get these Okinawan karate patches that had a swastika on it.
00:43:10.000 It had nothing to do with Hitler.
00:43:11.000 It had to do with Japan.
00:43:13.000 Right.
00:43:14.000 Sorry, go ahead.
00:43:15.000 All right, so real quick, while Jamie's on this slide, this is from the Hopewell Mound people, which is in modern-day Ohio, and that dates back 2,200 years ago.
00:43:23.000 Jesus Christ, this is from modern-day Ohio 2,000 years ago?
00:43:28.000 2,200 years ago, and so here's the point that I'm making about the swastika, is that Look, people debate on whether it was the Milky Way galaxy, the Big Dipper, whatever you want to say its origins were.
00:43:37.000 I do not think that it's a coincidence that a symbol, as so specific as it is, is found on five continents around the world before transoceanic sea travel was said to be possible.
00:43:47.000 Right.
00:43:49.000 It wasn't until 1492 when Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
00:43:53.000 End of.
00:43:53.000 And it's like, no.
00:43:55.000 I believe this is strong, suggestive evidence that humans were traversing the continents and the oceans thousands of years before we were taught in school, which is evidence of being more advanced than we were taught in school.
00:44:06.000 Right, right.
00:44:07.000 Now, what did they think this thing was?
00:44:10.000 Well, I have an idea about that.
00:44:11.000 I mean, it's not, you know, it's just Dan's idea, but the four directions, the cross that's the root of the swastika, that's pretty commonly used, even in Native American culture, as like, you know, cardinal points, right?
00:44:23.000 This is north, south, east, west.
00:44:24.000 Sure.
00:44:24.000 So this could be a symbol for the passage of time.
00:44:28.000 This sky is turning.
00:44:29.000 The cardinal points turn.
00:44:31.000 Rotation of the earth along with the points of the compass.
00:44:35.000 Exactly.
00:44:36.000 But that's just an idea.
00:44:37.000 It doesn't really add a whole lot of context to it as far as...
00:44:42.000 Why not just have a cross, then?
00:44:44.000 Up, down, left, right?
00:44:45.000 Isn't it crazy that a geometric pattern is evil?
00:44:49.000 Not just a geometric pattern, but a mustache?
00:44:53.000 It's deeply offensive.
00:44:54.000 It's funny.
00:44:55.000 It's fucking crazy.
00:44:56.000 It is.
00:44:56.000 Like, your beard is fine.
00:44:58.000 Nobody has any problems with it.
00:44:59.000 But imagine, like, if, like, oh, you have a wizard beard.
00:45:02.000 You believe in child sacrifice, you piece of shit.
00:45:05.000 It's crazy.
00:45:07.000 It's very strange what we've done, and obviously that's how horrific Hitler was.
00:45:11.000 So here's something people need to understand.
00:45:14.000 I want to emphasize this point.
00:45:16.000 Hitler, people need to look in the details.
00:45:18.000 He was looking for giants in Africa.
00:45:20.000 They did.
00:45:20.000 They set a mission.
00:45:21.000 Well, he was also on meth.
00:45:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:24.000 I'd be looking for giants in Africa too.
00:45:26.000 He was on meth.
00:45:26.000 Bro, we're going to go fight dinosaurs.
00:45:28.000 Let's fucking go.
00:45:31.000 I love it.
00:45:32.000 The thing is, though, it's like I have not found an answer on why he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant.
00:45:38.000 He was looking for Thor's hammer and the Holy Grail.
00:45:41.000 And the thing is to me, I'm like, I don't โ€“ what did โ€“ I feel like there's something that they knew about ancient history that we don't.
00:45:50.000 I don't know if this is true or not, but I want โ€“ I feel like I can't find a straight answer.
00:45:54.000 And let me tell you this.
00:45:55.000 If you go Googling for answers on Hitler's interest in archaeology โ€“ What are you up to, Jimmy?
00:46:02.000 You're going to find the same article.
00:46:04.000 So this is actually kind of explosive.
00:46:05.000 About two years ago, I made a video about Google sabotaging their search results.
00:46:10.000 Because remember how I'll show you if you Google some topic, it'll say there's like a billion results.
00:46:14.000 So I made a video on this.
00:46:16.000 And they would max out at โ€“ it didn't used to be this way because I remember watching a video years ago of people going thousands of pages to find some blog spot on some topic.
00:46:24.000 It then became limited.
00:46:26.000 I did an experiment myself many times on benign topics such as pancakes was one of them.
00:46:31.000 I typed in pancakes.
00:46:32.000 It had like a billion โ€“ like 700 million results.
00:46:34.000 And then it would only go back to page 41. And then it would recycle โ€“ All those pages before it, the dozens of pages, would recycle some of the same exact mainstream articles.
00:46:45.000 And so I did this on all kinds of topics.
00:46:47.000 And now Google has since removed the page numbers.
00:46:50.000 And so you can only just go see more, see more, see more.
00:46:56.000 And if you're looking for answers on this, they're going to keep sending you the same regurgitated mainstream articles.
00:47:01.000 So I can't find a reliable answer on why Hitler was so invested in ancient history.
00:47:08.000 And again, I don't give a shit about his Aryan stuff.
00:47:11.000 Right.
00:47:11.000 Why was he into the occult?
00:47:13.000 I want to know why he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant.
00:47:16.000 Well, obviously, their engineering was insane.
00:47:20.000 I mean, look, so many of our best vehicles that we buy today, the most coveted vehicles, came out of Nazi Germany originally.
00:47:28.000 Audi, Volkswagen, Porsche, BMW, Bavarian Motor Works.
00:47:34.000 I mean, all that shit came from the fucking Nazis.
00:47:36.000 I mean, have you ever seen Hitler's race car?
00:47:39.000 No.
00:47:39.000 Hitler had an Audi race car.
00:47:41.000 Really?
00:47:41.000 Yeah, man.
00:47:42.000 It's worth like a shit ton of money.
00:47:44.000 See if you can find Hitler's race car.
00:47:46.000 But this was, I mean, their engineering was superior.
00:47:49.000 This is the reason why we had Operation Paperclip.
00:47:53.000 So Operation Paperclip, we brought over all of the best Nazi rocket scientists.
00:47:58.000 The ones that the colonies didn't grab.
00:47:59.000 Yeah, that's how we got NASA. We got NASA essentially from Nazis.
00:48:04.000 That still wows people.
00:48:05.000 He used a V2 to put people on the moon.
00:48:06.000 Oh man, that's his original race car.
00:48:09.000 Isn't that fucking crazy?
00:48:10.000 That was basically a V2 rocket.
00:48:11.000 That's an Audi, right?
00:48:13.000 What was it?
00:48:14.000 Oh, it was a Mercedes Benz?
00:48:16.000 Did he have more than one?
00:48:18.000 I believe he had a later one.
00:48:20.000 That's it.
00:48:20.000 That's the one.
00:48:21.000 Wow.
00:48:21.000 So that one had the Audi symbol in the front of it.
00:48:24.000 Can you just clarify your pronouns so I know not to be offended that you're interested in this?
00:48:28.000 I'm he him.
00:48:29.000 I'm an American man.
00:48:32.000 We're coming to your town.
00:48:35.000 So look at that photograph.
00:48:37.000 Click on that.
00:48:39.000 Auto Union.
00:48:40.000 I guess that was what Audi's original name was.
00:48:43.000 Isn't that crazy?
00:48:44.000 Look at that car.
00:48:45.000 It's pretty sharp.
00:48:45.000 Pretty fucking dope.
00:48:47.000 Where is it now?
00:48:48.000 Oh my god, it says it's worth 5.5 million pounds.
00:48:52.000 And illegal to sell on so many markets.
00:48:55.000 Is that pounds?
00:48:56.000 Is that what that is?
00:48:56.000 That little sign?
00:48:58.000 So many things.
00:48:59.000 They would be like, oh, that's Hitler's card.
00:49:00.000 No, I'm sorry.
00:49:01.000 We can't have you listing that here, buddy.
00:49:02.000 Sorry.
00:49:03.000 Well, Tom Segura bought Bert Kreischer a cup that apparently was one of Hitler's cups.
00:49:08.000 Like one that he handled?
00:49:09.000 Yeah.
00:49:10.000 Really?
00:49:10.000 Allegedly.
00:49:11.000 But, you know, how the fuck do you know?
00:49:12.000 Let's get him in the studio and see this thing.
00:49:14.000 Yeah, but if you have that, you're a monster.
00:49:16.000 But if you had Genghis Khan's sword, you're fucking cool.
00:49:20.000 Yeah, that's actually an interesting, that's a good comparison.
00:49:22.000 I mean, he killed a lot more people.
00:49:23.000 He killed 10% of the population of Earth.
00:49:26.000 But he did it long enough ago that you don't hear anybody talking about it anymore.
00:49:29.000 He raped so many people that his DNA is in a giant percentage of people today.
00:49:32.000 It's like 20%.
00:49:33.000 Yeah, some ridiculous number.
00:49:35.000 We've done it before.
00:49:36.000 I forget what the numbers are, but they're really nutty.
00:49:37.000 But the point is, there's something particularly disgusting to us about that one genocide.
00:49:43.000 And it's really interesting.
00:49:45.000 And, you know, you wonder, like, how long it's going to take.
00:49:51.000 I mean, Dan Carlin has talked about this in depth, because...
00:49:54.000 He talks about the Mongols and that it's so far in the past, you know, we're talking about like 1200 AD. It's so far in the past that we look at it with almost like an objective perspective instead of a moral perspective.
00:50:09.000 So we say, you know, One thing that Genghis Khan did that was great, he opened up trade to the East, and he was a believer of all religions.
00:50:17.000 He could practice anything.
00:50:18.000 He didn't impose anything on people.
00:50:20.000 But he fucking killed everybody.
00:50:22.000 Like, if you were alive back then, he's way worse than Hitler.
00:50:25.000 He killed 10% of the population of Earth.
00:50:27.000 But the Nazis were so recent.
00:50:30.000 You know, we have grandfathers that are alive today that fought in World War II, and they can tell you, you know, like, hey man, I fucking remember this shit.
00:50:37.000 And then we have Jews like Ari Shafir's dad, who was in the concentration camps.
00:50:42.000 Ari Shafir's dad has a tattoo on his arm.
00:50:44.000 That's wild.
00:50:44.000 Yeah.
00:50:45.000 His dad's in his 80s, I believe.
00:50:46.000 Wow.
00:50:47.000 That recent memory is a big part.
00:50:50.000 I see the Hunter S. Thompson stuff on your wall.
00:50:52.000 You read his book of Hells Angels, right?
00:50:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:50:54.000 You remember him talking about that aspect of it, that the bikers, the Hells Angels rocked Nazi memorabilia.
00:51:02.000 He asked the guy, why?
00:51:05.000 He's like, because my dad fought the Nazis, and he fucking hates this.
00:51:08.000 So I wear this to piss off my dad.
00:51:12.000 A lot of that is contrarians.
00:51:14.000 My point is that a Genghis Kong symbol wouldn't be doing any good.
00:51:20.000 This has an emotional attachment.
00:51:23.000 Genghis Kong's mustache would be fine on me.
00:51:25.000 People might laugh at me a little bit.
00:51:26.000 I don't even know what it looked like.
00:51:28.000 We don't know.
00:51:29.000 They don't know what he looks like.
00:51:32.000 Yeah, it's pretty wild.
00:51:33.000 The Nazi thing, the fact that it's so horrific, it just like puts anyone who has anything to say that's coloring outside the lines, you get labeled the Holocaust denier and anti-Semite, you know, the worst labels that they can put on you.
00:51:52.000 And a good example of that is that podcast, oh God, I forget his name.
00:51:59.000 But it was the Tucker Carlson controversy where he had this guy on his podcast and he was talking about what William Churchill's role in the Holocaust was because they had put these embargoes on Germany and basically starving everybody to death.
00:52:14.000 And they just started calling him a Holocaust denier.
00:52:17.000 And that's like not what he was talking about at all.
00:52:19.000 That's not what he was saying at all.
00:52:22.000 He was just saying, no, there's a multifaceted explanation for why they decided to exterminate all these Jews.
00:52:30.000 And part of it was because of an embargo where they were starving people out.
00:52:35.000 What is his...
00:52:36.000 Daryl Cooper.
00:52:37.000 And what is this podcast called?
00:52:38.000 It's excellent.
00:52:39.000 I listen to it all the time, but my brain is not working right now.
00:52:42.000 I just got out of the gym.
00:52:45.000 I'm on meathead mode.
00:52:46.000 I know what you're talking about.
00:52:47.000 I've drawn a blank on it as well.
00:52:50.000 Martyrmaid?
00:52:50.000 Martyrmaid, that's right.
00:52:52.000 He's Martyrmaid on Twitter and Instagram.
00:52:55.000 To call that guy an anti-seminar or a Holocaust is so stupid.
00:52:58.000 He's a brilliant guy and his podcast is excellent and he's really sensitive and well-balanced and he gives a very comprehensive view of things.
00:53:07.000 It's not in any way prejudiced.
00:53:10.000 It's a great podcast.
00:53:12.000 But you're not allowed to color outside the lines.
00:53:13.000 Well, yeah.
00:53:14.000 He was just saying that Churchill was one of the villains.
00:53:17.000 Yeah.
00:53:17.000 And that's realistic.
00:53:20.000 There are multiple different reasons for that.
00:53:22.000 You tighten up their belt.
00:53:24.000 That's not going to be passed to the top.
00:53:25.000 That's going to go straight to the people in the camps.
00:53:27.000 Exactly.
00:53:28.000 And that's no-brainer shit.
00:53:30.000 Right.
00:53:30.000 That's not justifying the murder of all those Jews.
00:53:33.000 That's not what he's doing.
00:53:35.000 That's where it's so crazy about stifling discourse.
00:53:39.000 Right.
00:53:39.000 Yeah.
00:53:40.000 Because that was a fascinating conversation and we should be considering that.
00:53:43.000 Like, wow, that's crazy.
00:53:44.000 There were so many factors, so many horrible things going on all together.
00:53:47.000 Well, they say you're supposed to learn from history, but how the fuck are you going to learn from history if you actually take the lessons out of it?
00:53:52.000 Right.
00:53:53.000 I mean, this is an important thing here.
00:53:54.000 You think about this right now with the stuff in the Middle East in the last 20 years.
00:53:58.000 Sure.
00:53:58.000 Every time we put an embargo on there, we are...
00:54:00.000 We're not starving Saddam Hussein.
00:54:02.000 We're starving the people in his freaking prison.
00:54:04.000 So remember that.
00:54:05.000 Dave Smith was talking about that on a podcast recently, that during the Clinton administration, the embargoes starve to death 500,000 children.
00:54:12.000 Yeah.
00:54:13.000 See, that's fucked.
00:54:13.000 Yeah.
00:54:14.000 And that's worth remembering.
00:54:15.000 And it doesn't โ€“ if having that conversation makes somebody call you a Holocaust denier, that person should be out of the conversation, in my opinion.
00:54:23.000 Right.
00:54:23.000 And like you were saying, academia is chock full of those kinds of fucks right now.
00:54:26.000 And they should be ashamed.
00:54:27.000 They should be shamed by people who want to know the whole picture.
00:54:31.000 It's the opposite of knowledge.
00:54:32.000 Right.
00:54:33.000 It's certainly not condoning holocausts.
00:54:36.000 It's so stupid to not be looking at everything.
00:54:40.000 The good news is that people are waking up to this.
00:54:42.000 A lot of people think just like us where they're objective enough to understand that like, well, that's silly.
00:54:46.000 And so they're putting themselves in a corner in this echo chamber where people just aren't listening to them anymore.
00:54:51.000 Like when it comes to like mainstream archaeology, we call it big archaeology, establishment archaeology.
00:54:56.000 They're putting themselves into a corner where people like if you're going to if I'm going to ask questions about the swastika and you're going to say I'm spreading dangerous Nazism.
00:55:03.000 Some people buy into it, but I've noticed that most people are like, no, he's asking a question.
00:55:07.000 Well, we have the internet now.
00:55:08.000 We have shows like yours and yours and mine where you can have conversations about things and people get to see, oh, these people that are in control, they're all loons and they're all telling us that you have to think this one way or you're the worst person on earth.
00:55:22.000 And I don't buy it.
00:55:24.000 It's a dumb way to look at the world.
00:55:26.000 It's un-American.
00:55:27.000 Sorry to flag for a second.
00:55:29.000 It really is.
00:55:31.000 I live in a country where I can have somebody with their pronouns and their fucking bio and somebody not with their pronouns.
00:55:36.000 We can both yell at each other and not have us end up in jail over it.
00:55:39.000 It's also this position that people have when they're teachers, when they're educators.
00:55:44.000 And they have this position, you know, and I can speak to it a little bit from martial arts.
00:55:50.000 Because in martial arts, when I first started doing martial arts, it was in the 1980s.
00:55:56.000 In the 1980s, every discipline believed they had the very best discipline.
00:56:02.000 All the judo people thought judo was the only martial art you needed to know.
00:56:06.000 All the karate people thought karate was it.
00:56:08.000 Taekwondo people, where I came from, they all believed in Taekwondo.
00:56:12.000 And it took the UFC to slam everything together and go, oh Jesus, half of this stuff is fucking useless.
00:56:19.000 And, you know, some of it's not useless, right?
00:56:22.000 There were some things from, like, Jon Jones won the UFC heavyweight title this past weekend with a Taekwondo kick.
00:56:28.000 It was amazing.
00:56:28.000 Yeah.
00:56:29.000 That was unbelievable.
00:56:30.000 I was so happy because that was my thing.
00:56:32.000 So me watching him do that was like, yes, why aren't more people doing this?
00:56:36.000 Like, you guys should have been doing this from the beginning.
00:56:38.000 It's the most powerful kick in the sport.
00:56:40.000 But you were in trouble if you trained in other disciplines.
00:56:46.000 Like, Bruce Lee was a heretic.
00:56:47.000 And he's probably one of the most important figures in martial arts, not just because he introduced people to it, like myself, who became martial artists because I was a Bruce Lee fan.
00:56:57.000 He also combined all kinds of different martial arts, and that was Jeet Kune Do.
00:57:03.000 He developed a style that was essentially, he took Western boxing, he took some Judo that he learned, and karate, and all these different techniques, and just tried to find what is the absolute best thing for just fighting.
00:57:16.000 And that was, he was a heretic.
00:57:18.000 Like, his life was threatened for that.
00:57:20.000 And it's because the educators want to be the only people that can distribute information, and they don't want to be challenged.
00:57:27.000 When I was in high school, I had a teacher.
00:57:29.000 His name was Mr. Holman.
00:57:30.000 He was a very nice guy, but he was a smart guy that wanted to be the only smart guy.
00:57:37.000 And he was great talking to me because I was a stupid kid.
00:57:40.000 But unfortunately, one day I had watched a documentary.
00:57:44.000 And I've always had a very good ability to recall things.
00:57:48.000 And we were in class and he was talking about the pollution in Lake Erie.
00:57:54.000 And I had just watched a documentary about the extensive work that they had done to clean up Lake Erie and that they'd made these huge strides in removing pollution and crap and all these different things from Lake Erie.
00:58:07.000 And he was talking about stuff that he had learned in school 20 years prior.
00:58:12.000 And so when I was, I said, well, you know, there's a PBS documentary, and I brought this up in class, where there's been this extensive work, and they talked about the amazing accomplishments of cleaning up Lake Erie, and he got so mad at me.
00:58:25.000 I'm like, you're not mad at me, man.
00:58:26.000 You're mad at PBS. Like, I don't fucking do any research.
00:58:29.000 I watched a documentary.
00:58:30.000 But back then, you could say, you don't know what you're talking about, and I couldn't pull my phone out and go, oh, but what?
00:58:36.000 Look at that.
00:58:38.000 You can watch it, dude.
00:58:39.000 These people have done amazing work cleaning up Lake Erie.
00:58:43.000 But he didn't want anyone else to have any information.
00:58:46.000 What he should have said is, that's fascinating.
00:58:49.000 I haven't seen that documentary.
00:58:51.000 Can you recall the name of it?
00:58:53.000 Let's see if we can get it, maybe show it to the class.
00:58:56.000 I'm going to try to do that, because that's great.
00:58:58.000 That's a good sign.
00:58:59.000 What I'm talking about is what Lake Erie had become because of industrial engineering, And because of pollution and waste that was coming from all these plants.
00:59:08.000 So he was correct.
00:59:10.000 But time had changed and he did not like that I knew that and he didn't know that.
00:59:15.000 And I remember being in that class going, this is so crazy.
00:59:17.000 This is my fucking science teacher.
00:59:18.000 My science teacher doesn't want details.
00:59:20.000 He doesn't want facts.
00:59:21.000 This happened to me.
00:59:22.000 So I was in the military years ago, and it wasn't long after I got home from Iraq, and I was going to warrior leadership course, which is to become an E5, a sergeant.
00:59:30.000 And back then, they were teaching ABC, which is airway, bleeding, what was the other one?
00:59:36.000 Circulation, whatever.
00:59:48.000 Yeah.
00:59:58.000 Stop!
00:59:59.000 This is what's written down right here.
01:00:01.000 I'm like, no, but that's not even what they're teaching in theater right now.
01:00:03.000 This is medical emergency stuff that could save someone's life.
01:00:07.000 And he didn't want to hear it one bit.
01:00:09.000 I couldn't believe it.
01:00:10.000 I was astonished.
01:00:11.000 He should have said, that's interesting.
01:00:13.000 I did not know that.
01:00:14.000 We need to update what we're showing you.
01:00:16.000 These three factors are the same, but now we know.
01:00:18.000 Thank you, Jimmy.
01:00:19.000 Now we know that bleeding is more primary.
01:00:22.000 That's the response of a real leader.
01:00:24.000 And a real leader, you're always going to have blowhards in your class that are going to want to hear their own voice.
01:00:30.000 They want to talk about stuff and chime in and correct people.
01:00:33.000 But you've got to let a certain amount of that.
01:00:36.000 And that's the Internet.
01:00:37.000 And people don't like that.
01:00:38.000 And that's why they wanted to ban people from Twitter.
01:00:40.000 They don't like these people coming along that have ideas, like the Great Barrington Declaration, where the government actually conspired to get these people removed from Twitter.
01:00:51.000 And we know that because Elon, thank God, bought Twitter and changed discourse.
01:00:57.000 But this was a concerted effort to take these people who were brilliant people, who had degrees, were experts in this field that they were discussing, and they decided they were going to remove them because they didn't go along with the narrative and they were confusing people in a time Where they were trying to force vaccinations on everyone.
01:01:17.000 Right.
01:01:18.000 The emotion side of it from the individual levels, like what you guys described, you have a teacher, the emotional reaction.
01:01:25.000 That's a huge part of it, but when the...
01:01:28.000 That's a huge part of it, especially with archaeology, because a lot of it's not really hard science.
01:01:32.000 A lot of it's like, I've got this arrowhead here, and I've conjured up this story, and so now it's my story, and you're not attacking the science, you're attacking me.
01:01:40.000 But it gets even worse when you look at it, what they get like this hate for Graham Hancock, in particular Graham Hancock.
01:01:46.000 That makes it where it's like you can't trust a damn word that comes out of their mouth when they're discussing.
01:01:51.000 Like if we were talking back to the martial arts, you know, one of the things that came out was Aikido was just ass.
01:01:57.000 It's no good at all for like man-to-man combat.
01:01:59.000 Was it for like samurais that have been knocked off a horse or some shit?
01:02:02.000 Well, it was designed to redistribute the energy of your attacker.
01:02:07.000 So if someone's coming at you with a sword, if you don't have a sword and a guy swings a sword and you're fast enough to get away from the path of the sword and grab the guy's arm or body and manipulate him to the ground to remove his sword, It's essentially a disarming strategy.
01:02:24.000 So it's not the best thing in the world.
01:02:26.000 It just doesn't work against a wrestler.
01:02:29.000 Wrestling is way better.
01:02:32.000 If you want to find out the best way to take a person to the ground and control them, we 100% know it's wrestling.
01:02:38.000 The most ancient sport in the world.
01:02:40.000 That dates back to the Sumerians.
01:02:41.000 And by the way, in wrestling, I include judo.
01:02:44.000 I include different forms of jujitsu that were ancient.
01:02:49.000 Because these allowed people to manipulate limbs and to control joints, which allowed them also to take people down and submit them.
01:02:56.000 But the point is...
01:02:59.000 You had a bunch of people believing that this one goofy-ass martial art was the end-all be-all because of a good Steven Seagal movie.
01:03:07.000 Exactly.
01:03:09.000 And what my point was there is it's like you're considered pretty much an expert in martial arts.
01:03:14.000 You're a professional announcer for UFC. You know your shit.
01:03:17.000 So if I watched you say Steven Seagal, you know, his martial arts, it's fucking Akito, man.
01:03:23.000 I don't know what to tell you.
01:03:24.000 Yeah, but I would not do that.
01:03:25.000 I would tell you Steven Seagal was really good.
01:03:27.000 Yeah.
01:03:28.000 Really good at Akito.
01:03:29.000 But if you hated Steven Seagal, if you were one of his many haters, you could just attack Akito without ever saying his name and just be digging him a ditch, right?
01:03:40.000 You could just be burying him without ever mentioning Steven Seagal's name.
01:03:43.000 You could just attack Akito.
01:03:44.000 Akito is a shit martial art.
01:03:46.000 It's not effective.
01:03:47.000 It's not very good.
01:03:48.000 And then by extension, you're making Steven Seagal look bad.
01:03:51.000 Those are their favorite tactics to do to Hancock.
01:03:53.000 They will attack.
01:03:54.000 This idea is racist.
01:03:56.000 It's inherently bullshit.
01:03:57.000 They don't have to mention Hancock's name.
01:03:59.000 They're so insidious this way.
01:04:02.000 Yeah, and connecting Hancock to white supremacy and aliens is the dumbest one.
01:04:08.000 First of all, he never said nothing about aliens.
01:04:10.000 Not only that, not only does he not think of it as white people built this stuff, he thinks it's the people that live there.
01:04:17.000 But they lived there a long-ass time ago.
01:04:20.000 It's the same fucking people.
01:04:21.000 It's Africans.
01:04:22.000 Whoever built the pyramids, they were Africans.
01:04:25.000 Like, I'm an American.
01:04:27.000 Let me just remind the audience.
01:04:29.000 Egypt is an Africa.
01:04:32.000 Yeah, that is Northern Africa, and it's the most sophisticated construction we have ever witnessed on the face of the earth.
01:04:39.000 Anybody that disagrees, you need to really study what they accomplished just in the Great Pyramid.
01:04:46.000 It's mind-boggling precision.
01:04:48.000 It's not just the incredible feat of moving massive stones hundreds of miles through the mountains.
01:04:53.000 It's the mind-boggling precision of the construction of these buildings that It's so crazy.
01:05:01.000 It's almost like they made it so nutty that even if everything dissolved and expired, it would give us at least some clue that maybe something happened.
01:05:13.000 Maybe people had achieved a level of sophistication.
01:05:18.000 And my thought is, and this is just a guess, is that as we move towards metal and we move towards...
01:05:27.000 Using different kinds of combustion engines and electronics.
01:05:30.000 We moved in a very specific area of technology.
01:05:33.000 And we were allowed to do this because things have been relatively peaceful for a couple hundred years.
01:05:41.000 Okay?
01:05:42.000 Relatively peaceful.
01:05:43.000 And also, there's war in other places, so it allowed us to spend our time here devising ways to fuck up people over there.
01:05:52.000 That's the Manhattan Project, right?
01:05:57.000 I think that's the avenue that thinking goes in and innovation goes in.
01:06:02.000 And instead of combustion engines and electronics, you have something that we haven't even considered.
01:06:08.000 And that to me seems like what Egypt is.
01:06:11.000 It seems to me that they have this incredibly fertile area.
01:06:15.000 So if people look at Egypt now, you're looking at all the sand and all the shit.
01:06:18.000 That is not what it looked like.
01:06:20.000 In the thousands of years before the construction of the pyramid, it was a rainforest, and it was fertile.
01:06:26.000 And so my thought is these people probably had plenty of food, and so they didn't have to go anywhere.
01:06:31.000 And so they weren't attacked that often.
01:06:33.000 The Nubians conquered them, and that's when the statues started changing, looking more Southern African.
01:06:37.000 But you have these people that live in this incredibly resource-rich place, and they were able to spend thousands of years there.
01:06:47.000 And I think in those thousands of years, they devised methods that we still haven't even considered, because we went in a different path.
01:06:56.000 And we can't consider any other paths.
01:06:58.000 We consider our path, and we say, well, we're the furthest.
01:07:02.000 We live today.
01:07:03.000 Okay, so those fuckers in the past, they're basically cave people.
01:07:07.000 Right?
01:07:07.000 That's how we look at it.
01:07:08.000 Yeah, they look at them like dumb people playing with stones.
01:07:10.000 They were silly.
01:07:12.000 They used stones because they weren't smart enough to use metal.
01:07:14.000 It's like when you look at the details of stone, it's like, you could say it's more impressive.
01:07:18.000 Well, we wanted to talk about Gobekli Tepe.
01:07:20.000 Gobekli Tepe is not just fascinating in its construction, but also in the timeline.
01:07:25.000 Fucked everything up.
01:07:27.000 I remember when Graham Hancock and Zawi Hawass were having that big debate with that other guy who's an archaeologist.
01:07:33.000 The American guy is very smug.
01:07:34.000 But he's like, what evidence do you have of a civilization that lived 10,000 years ago?
01:07:38.000 Well, you have one now.
01:07:40.000 Yeah.
01:07:40.000 So you have to shut the fuck up because you were wrong.
01:07:42.000 So in the 1990s, a sheep herder finds this stone.
01:07:46.000 He starts kicking it and moving it around and he realizes, wow, this is a big-ass stone.
01:07:50.000 I probably bring in some smart dudes to figure this out and they start digging and they go, oh Jesus, this is these huge circles of giant stone columns with 3D carved animals on them at a time that we thought people were living in teepees.
01:08:05.000 We thought people had stone tools.
01:08:07.000 We didn't think there was any metal.
01:08:09.000 We thought it had to be done the opposite way around.
01:08:11.000 We thought you needed to be a hunter-gatherer, a farmer, and then you could build.
01:08:16.000 And now they had to flip that entire shit on its ear.
01:08:19.000 Well, actually, maybe.
01:08:20.000 I think they only flipped that shit on its ear to try to make it look like they were right about the timeline of hunter-gatherers.
01:08:26.000 I completely agree.
01:08:27.000 And to ignore the possibility of an ancient civilization before Mesopotamia.
01:08:31.000 I completely agree.
01:08:32.000 Because it's the only thing that makes sense.
01:08:33.000 There's no way when you're just struggling to find food, okay?
01:08:37.000 And if you've ever gone on a fishing trip or a hunting trip, it's fucking hard to get food.
01:08:40.000 When we have modern stuff, it's hard to get food with a rifle, right?
01:08:44.000 So these people were getting food and They somehow or another in between them while like running around trying to shoot rabbits with a bow and arrow They figured out how to make these massive stone columns and put them in position and and move them in circles and hundreds of them pretty great artists doing some relief carvings I mean,
01:09:05.000 that's some that's not the same as just animals that were local to the area Just like what how do you even fucking know this is a thing?
01:09:12.000 What is this?
01:09:14.000 So Gobekli Tepe, brother, if there is such a thing as an ancient conspiracy theory, it's this.
01:09:20.000 So I remember hearing Graham Hancock come on your show back in like 2015 or 2017, and he was talking about Gobekli Tepe.
01:09:29.000 And at that time, he had shared that the site was only approximately 5% excavated.
01:09:35.000 It's the first video on my channel.
01:09:37.000 It's like August 2017. And I share the details of it.
01:09:42.000 These pillars dates back 11,600 years.
01:09:46.000 It appears to be purposely buried at the same time of the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe.
01:09:49.000 This is fascinating.
01:09:52.000 And excavations were continuing.
01:09:53.000 So I'm like, okay, I'm going to backburn this topic of Gobekli Tepe for a little while, let them further their excavations, and I'll revisit this later when there's something new to share.
01:10:02.000 So earlier this summer, I'm like, all right, let me revisit Gobekli Tepe and see what's new there.
01:10:09.000 And I was astonished to learn that that 5% figure was still the same.
01:10:14.000 Have you heard this?
01:10:15.000 Yeah, I've watched your videos on it.
01:10:17.000 YouTube channel, Bright Insight, subscribe.
01:10:21.000 Undeniably strange.
01:10:23.000 Your videos are undeniably strange.
01:10:25.000 So here's some images where you can see what it kind of looks like along with this globalheritagefund.org story on it.
01:10:33.000 So it shows 5%, 5%.
01:10:35.000 And that figure is still the same as of Yeah.
01:10:51.000 They're going to defer a full-scale excavation for, quote, future generations with a 150-year estimated timeframe for a full excavation of Gobekli Tepe.
01:11:03.000 And I'm like, wait a second.
01:11:05.000 Are you serious?
01:11:06.000 Like, this makes no sense.
01:11:07.000 We're talking about Arguably, not just the world's oldest ancient site, but arguably the most mysterious because it's, like you were saying, it's not supposed to exist.
01:11:14.000 Based on everything we were taught in school, it's supposed to be the Sumerians.
01:11:17.000 And then you have the site of Gobekli Tepe, made up of sophisticated pillars and concentric circles.
01:11:22.000 At least 5,000 years older.
01:11:24.000 Yeah, almost 7,000 years older than Stonehenge.
01:11:28.000 And Stonehenge is a mystery of itself.
01:11:30.000 So I start googling and looking into the details.
01:11:33.000 I'm like, this doesn't make any sense.
01:11:36.000 How could they defer excavations for future generations when this may be the most important ancient site on Earth involving our mysterious lost ancient past?
01:11:47.000 And so I started digging into this, and I couldn't believe what I found.
01:11:50.000 So they were doing large-scale excavations, but that has since ceased.
01:11:54.000 Just to clarify, they are still excavating Gobekli Tepe, but they have rolled and dialed back the large-scale excavations of the years prior, and they're focusing on conservation and tourism management of the site.
01:12:06.000 And like I said, with a 150-year timeframe, and I'm like, wait a second.
01:12:10.000 And I have all the screenshots in that folder.
01:12:12.000 Would this be because of funding?
01:12:13.000 Absolutely not.
01:12:15.000 So not only have they never claimed that it's related to funding, but this is where things get bizarre, is that there's a Turkish conglomerate called the Dogez Group, which consists of 250 companies within Turkey.
01:12:26.000 It's a billion dollar industry.
01:12:29.000 And they're the ones that took over management and funding of the site back in 2017. And they announced this at all places, the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos in 2016 is when they announced this partnership, initial funding of $15 million.
01:12:45.000 At that time, they set up the infrastructure for tourism, roads, sidewalks, walkways, roofing platforms.
01:12:54.000 And since then is when they dialed back the excavations.
01:12:58.000 And I'm like, this makes absolutely no sense.
01:13:00.000 So it has โ€“ let me just be crystal clear here.
01:13:02.000 It has nothing to do with funding and they've never claimed it has anything to do with funding.
01:13:06.000 But their excuses, they have said, one of which is that, well, we want to wait for future technologies to develop so we can more safely excavate the site.
01:13:17.000 And I'm like, wait a second.
01:13:18.000 Hold on a second.
01:13:20.000 We're talking about pillars buried in dirt.
01:13:23.000 It's 2024. Do not tell me that we do not have the technological capability to dig rocks up.
01:13:29.000 What would be an alternative explanation?
01:13:31.000 So, okay, this is where things get fun.
01:13:35.000 Oh boy.
01:13:38.000 Rabbit hole, here we go.
01:13:40.000 I love fun.
01:13:40.000 I love a good rabbit hole.
01:13:41.000 Let me say a couple things before I get into it.
01:13:44.000 One of which is that them saying that they're waiting for a future technology to develop to safely excavate the site, I'm like, what type of magical shovel or pressure, water hose are we talking about here?
01:13:56.000 Some vacuum, a dirt vacuum.
01:13:57.000 Right?
01:13:58.000 And since they're saying that they're continuing to excavate the site today...
01:14:03.000 Since they're saying to continue to activate the site today, I'm like, well, which is it?
01:14:06.000 Are you saying that you're doing so in unsafe methods?
01:14:09.000 And I already know that's not the answer because there's been no issue with destructing the site from digging it up.
01:14:15.000 It's not like they broke a pillar and like, oh, dang, wait a second.
01:14:18.000 We need to walk this back.
01:14:19.000 We're not doing things safely.
01:14:20.000 That's not the case here.
01:14:23.000 So there are a few explanations here.
01:14:24.000 Okay.
01:14:25.000 Here's what I want to hear.
01:14:26.000 So one of which is that I โ€“ the most logical explanation, this is the less conspiratorial one, which is that it has to do with money.
01:14:34.000 You have this Turkish conglomerate of people that are saturated with members of the World Economic Forum.
01:14:40.000 For example, the CEO of the Doges Group is a longtime member of the World Economic Forum.
01:14:44.000 That may backburn the World Economic Forum for a half a second.
01:14:48.000 They're business people.
01:14:49.000 They took over the site and it's all about money now.
01:14:53.000 Back in 2019, Gobekli Tepe had approximately 19,000 visitors yearly.
01:14:58.000 Now it's at a half a million.
01:15:00.000 They're focused, if nothing else, they're just trying to bring revenue in.
01:15:04.000 It's all about money.
01:15:05.000 Yeah, they don't care about X event and the rest of the site.
01:15:07.000 It's not going to bring 15 more million in revenue.
01:15:09.000 Right.
01:15:10.000 And they just want their money back.
01:15:12.000 Okay.
01:15:12.000 But I'm like, well, this is...
01:15:14.000 That makes sense.
01:15:14.000 It does make sense.
01:15:16.000 I'll weigh in on that real quick.
01:15:17.000 Also, the mystery plays...
01:15:19.000 That site is probably the second most popular place on the planet with people like ourselves.
01:15:23.000 And the more mystery is there, the more money...
01:15:27.000 We deal in mystery.
01:15:30.000 So if they excavate everything and we know everything there is about that site and it's all super mundane and there's nothing cool about it anymore, that tit dries up and there's no milk coming out.
01:15:39.000 Yeah, but how could it ever stop being cool?
01:15:40.000 I agree.
01:15:40.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:15:42.000 I agree with that.
01:15:42.000 That one doesn't make any sense.
01:15:44.000 That's a Zahi Hawass kind of thing.
01:15:46.000 He's of the same opinion where I think a lot of the same things, excuse me, happen in Egypt for the same reasons.
01:15:51.000 Zahi Hawass is quoted with saying that those New Age people, it doesn't matter what happens in Egypt, the New Age people, they come.
01:15:58.000 It's about tourism.
01:15:59.000 You know, ever since the Arab Spring, tourism in Egypt's been lower.
01:16:01.000 So I think a lot of the same, like we're going to talk in a minute about the hidden chamber in the pyramid that they've located and still haven't excavated for whatever fucking reason.
01:16:09.000 I think that might be part of it.
01:16:10.000 If you want to get super mundane and not conspiratorial, it's just a simple, The tourists keep coming while there's a mystery there.
01:16:17.000 As soon as we open that up, it's just an empty chamber.
01:16:20.000 I don't buy that.
01:16:22.000 Me either.
01:16:22.000 The mystery of the structures themselves that we have completely excavated is just so fascinating.
01:16:27.000 So let me be clear on Gobekli Tepe.
01:16:29.000 It's somewhere between 5% and 10% excavated.
01:16:33.000 So here it says some archaeological sites where only 10% or less have been uncovered.
01:16:39.000 None of which date back anywhere near remotely as old as Gobekli Tepe.
01:16:43.000 And so just to put this into perspective, Gobekli Tepe, according to ground penetrating radar, consists of approximately 200 T-shaped pillars.
01:16:51.000 Only 72 of them have been unearthed.
01:16:53.000 And as of just a few years ago, they're dialing that back to fully excavate them, which again, the 150-year time frame.
01:16:59.000 And I'm like, this is entirely unacceptable.
01:17:03.000 There could be hidden answers about our lost ancient past waiting to be discovered on these pillars because all the pillars are trying to tell us some sort of story.
01:17:12.000 They all have depictions, animals, all kinds of things on there.
01:17:14.000 There's the shaman with the bag.
01:17:16.000 Right.
01:17:17.000 Which is very interesting.
01:17:18.000 Right.
01:17:19.000 We've seen that from the Sumerians.
01:17:20.000 We've seen it in South America.
01:17:21.000 The bag thing is very fascinating.
01:17:23.000 It is.
01:17:24.000 It's hotly debated.
01:17:25.000 Yeah, I'm sure.
01:17:26.000 I mean, you could say maybe it's a tool bag.
01:17:28.000 You could say maybe it's psychedelics he's got in that bag.
01:17:31.000 Academics say it says water.
01:17:33.000 It's a water bucket.
01:17:34.000 You guys familiar with the work of Martin Swetman?
01:17:37.000 Excuse me?
01:17:37.000 You guys familiar with the work of Martin Swetman?
01:17:39.000 No, I am not.
01:17:40.000 He's the one that...
01:17:41.000 He was on Ancient Apocalypse Season 1 for a minute.
01:17:44.000 He's the guy who made basically a star map of that pillar 43. And in his opinion, those three handbags at the top were three sunrises.
01:17:53.000 And if that's the case that would almost make sense because then they're like a picture of an Assyrian holding that would be like a holding of astronomical knowledge like this this symbol could have been a symbol of knowledge of astronomy.
01:18:05.000 Which is one thing honestly about Gobekah.
01:18:07.000 It could have been a book bag.
01:18:08.000 It could have been a book bag.
01:18:09.000 Right?
01:18:09.000 I mean it kind of makes sense.
01:18:11.000 They probably had to travel around with their books.
01:18:13.000 So here's the thing.
01:18:15.000 That pillar, that's just one pillar out of 200. And here we are debating.
01:18:19.000 We don't even know what it is.
01:18:20.000 It's all conjecture.
01:18:21.000 Pull that up, Jamie, so we can see what that pillar looks like.
01:18:23.000 So this Gobekli Tepe situation is far more bizarre than we've described so far.
01:18:30.000 I think the logical explanation, though, is that you have massive tourist revenue coming to see it as is.
01:18:35.000 Why spend more money and excavate these things?
01:18:38.000 I think that's the most- So this is the pillar- I think that's the most logical explanation, but it could be more insidious than that.
01:18:44.000 So that's one pillar.
01:18:46.000 That's pillar 43, the most debated one of them all, and there's approximately 128 more pillars that are still buried in the earth.
01:18:54.000 What's that bird doing holding the Earth?
01:18:57.000 Dr. Martin Swetman, his first paper on Gobekli Tepe's Pillar 43, he's got Scorpio on the bottom.
01:19:04.000 He believes that's Sagittarius, that that's the Sun.
01:19:08.000 Basically, it's a star map denoting the time that the comets smack the Earth, is what he believes.
01:19:14.000 Each one of those Vs, his latest paper on it, each one of those V symbols is a day.
01:19:20.000 Each one, in his opinion, each one of those boxes is a month.
01:19:23.000 And there is basically a full year denoting the whole thing, the way he's broken.
01:19:28.000 That's very interesting stuff.
01:19:29.000 And one of the things that's wild to me, when we talk about the lack of further excavations, is almost every pillar we bring up has new symbols, new iconography.
01:19:40.000 If we're trying to find some sort of ancient proto-language or something, we need more symbols.
01:19:45.000 We need more things on Earth.
01:19:47.000 And that's completely opposed by the mainstream archaeology.
01:19:50.000 The idea that these guys had any sort of written language is fucking ridiculous.
01:19:54.000 What are the theories involved in...
01:19:57.000 I know it's been theorized that it was purposely covered.
01:20:01.000 It really looks like it.
01:20:03.000 If you look at pictures of the excavation, it looks like it was all piled in with stones and dirt because if it was some sort of natural event, it would have destroyed the pillars.
01:20:11.000 The pillars are preserved.
01:20:13.000 So it wasn't just blown in with dust.
01:20:24.000 It โ€“ the people that have worked the site believe it was intentionally buried.
01:20:27.000 That is debated in academia today.
01:20:30.000 But isn't there also a carbon isotope dating of the ground soil that shows it's the same age throughout the entire โ€“ whatever feet it is of the dirt that's covering it?
01:20:39.000 Yes.
01:20:39.000 And so it's very apparent that it was purposely buried.
01:20:42.000 And what's interesting about that is that it coincides exactly with the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe.
01:20:47.000 So if you want an alternative idea on โ€“ so OK. Could it be mudslides?
01:20:53.000 No, because it would destroy those pillars.
01:20:56.000 Knock them over at least.
01:20:57.000 Yeah.
01:20:58.000 I've seen that in Iraq with the statues.
01:21:01.000 So we'll share โ€“ let's talk about this in a second.
01:21:04.000 So this is where things get wild.
01:21:06.000 That's before the excavation.
01:21:08.000 This is an aerial photo.
01:21:10.000 From what year is this?
01:21:11.000 That should be 2004. Yeah.
01:21:13.000 No, no, excuse me.
01:21:14.000 Before 1994. They started excavations in 1994, 1995. So that is when it was just dirt.
01:21:21.000 Correct.
01:21:21.000 Everybody thought it was just a regular hillside, which makes you wonder how many more there are out there.
01:21:26.000 Well, they're finding dozens of other sites around Turkey that are even older.
01:21:30.000 Even older.
01:21:31.000 Yes.
01:21:32.000 So let me tell you a few different things about Gobekli Tepe.
01:21:35.000 When you bring up pictures of the pillars, notice how they all annotate animals on them.
01:21:39.000 Now, this is a fun topic, and I have a few other things to share, one of which is that if you want to talk about reasons not to excavate it, I'll give you two possibilities.
01:21:48.000 And this is just conjecture.
01:21:50.000 I don't know what the answer is.
01:21:51.000 Let me say this up front.
01:21:53.000 But part of it could have a religious implication as well as a climate change implication.
01:21:57.000 Let me start with that.
01:21:58.000 So we know it is an established fact that the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe happened between 12,800 and 11,600 years ago.
01:22:07.000 We know that there was vast changes in weather patterns throughout the Northern Hemisphere.
01:22:11.000 The only part of it that's debated and as well as near extinction events or extinction events of many different mammals in North America.
01:22:19.000 But What we know is that something happened, whatever it is, is what's debated, whether it's a cosmic impact, whether it's a pole shift, whether it's sun cycles, all kinds of conjecture all the way around.
01:22:30.000 But when I mentioned the WEF, they are the biggest proponents of the man-made climate change narrative.
01:22:38.000 They're the ones that want to get rid of gas-powered stoves.
01:22:40.000 They want us to get rid of vehicles.
01:22:42.000 They are pushing their initiatives around the world, and they believe that we're destroying the planet.
01:22:46.000 I'm not saying they're entirely wrong, but I don't agree with their ways of going about it, but that's a side point.
01:22:51.000 But here's the thing.
01:23:12.000 Many believe that it was crashed onto Mount Eret, which is also in Turkey.
01:23:17.000 And something fascinating is that in the Bible, in Genesis 820, some of the first verses after Noah emerged from the flood is that he was said to have constructed an altar to the Lord where he sacrificed some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird.
01:23:32.000 Gobekli Tepe is in Turkey, and every single one of those pillars annotates animals.
01:23:36.000 And some have suggested that it could be Noah's altar.
01:23:40.000 Now, that could be one reason why they wouldn't want to excavate it, is because Turkey is an Islamic country, and if there were some...
01:23:50.000 Christian religious belief that was corroborated, they might not want that to happen.
01:23:54.000 Another possibility is that the site itself might corroborate the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe.
01:24:01.000 And when we're in a timeframe where they don't like talking academics, they don't like talking about cataclysms, they want to pretend they didn't happen, they want everything to be manmade climate change.
01:24:11.000 They don't ever talk about the Sahara being green 5,000 years ago, like when you're talking about Egypt being a rainforest.
01:24:17.000 They find whale bones in the Sahara.
01:24:19.000 Oh no, Joe, those are 30 million years old, so stop talking about it.
01:24:23.000 Whale bones.
01:24:24.000 It's amazing when you think about it.
01:24:27.000 And so, as far as the climate change narrative, I think?
01:25:00.000 From the Earth from the Sun, all three of those variables are constantly changing every single day, although immeasurable day by day.
01:25:07.000 They happen over tens of thousands of years.
01:25:09.000 But each individual of those variables impact climate on Earth.
01:25:14.000 For example, when I talk about the green Sahara, they believe the most likely reason has to do with Earth's processional cycle.
01:25:20.000 I'm like, well, wait a second.
01:25:21.000 Where's this in the conversation of modern day climate change?
01:25:24.000 If we're talking about us destroying the planet, I would just like an answer as far as where these three variables are in the conversation.
01:25:30.000 Did you see the Washington Post's very inconvenient data that they published about the temperature of Earth?
01:25:37.000 No, please tell me.
01:25:38.000 If you find the Washington Post climate study, they found that we're in a massive cooling period.
01:25:45.000 If you go back X amount of 100,000 years and you look at what's happening, it goes in cycles, but that's what it looks like now.
01:25:55.000 Capture Zero's climate over the last 485 million years.
01:25:58.000 Look at the dip we're in, and look how it's never static.
01:26:02.000 It's down and up, and down and up, and down and up, all throughout the history of the Earth, which is measurable.
01:26:08.000 It's not to say that we don't have an impact on it.
01:26:10.000 We definitely do.
01:26:11.000 That's a pretty sharp increase there, but yeah, still.
01:26:13.000 But here's the thing, even if we didn't, but there's sharp increases in the past.
01:26:16.000 There's a couple other ones, yep.
01:26:17.000 There's a couple other ones, yep.
01:26:18.000 Look at 390 million years ago.
01:26:21.000 Look at that giant peak.
01:26:23.000 That's fucking crazy.
01:26:24.000 That's straight up and down.
01:26:26.000 It's always happened.
01:26:28.000 It's not like it's static and then industrial engineering comes along and then you see this big increase.
01:26:33.000 Oh boy, what are we doing to the earth?
01:26:35.000 No, it's like even if we didn't do anything, we have no control over the temperature of the earth.
01:26:40.000 And what's really terrifying, Randall Carlson talks about this all the time, is global cooling.
01:26:46.000 That's what's really terrifying.
01:26:47.000 When global warming happens, oh no, you gotta move out of Malibu.
01:26:51.000 You gonna be okay?
01:26:53.000 You gotta move to the places where it used to be cold and now it's warm because humans have always been nomadic.
01:26:58.000 That's the whole reason why we're not in Africa anymore.
01:27:00.000 But global warming will fucking kill us all.
01:27:01.000 Right.
01:27:01.000 Global cooling will kill everything.
01:27:05.000 Randall talks about this, that we came very close at one point in human history.
01:27:09.000 We came very close to losing the oxygen that's required to literally keep life.
01:27:17.000 Jamie, will you bring up my Ice Age or Ice folder?
01:27:20.000 So I have an update for you from the last time I was on your podcast.
01:27:23.000 Go over to the graph.
01:27:25.000 It should be one of the first slides.
01:27:26.000 That one.
01:27:28.000 Hang out right there for a second.
01:27:29.000 So when I was on your show last time, Joe, I discussed โ€“ I said something very specific where I said I think the โ€“ this is with my exact words.
01:27:38.000 I think the data might indicate that cold is more often than it's hot.
01:27:42.000 And do you know what happened after that?
01:27:43.000 I was going to send this to you, but I held off because you've seen enough hit pieces.
01:27:47.000 So there was a hit piece done on me by Media Matters, which was funded by George Soros, and their networking of Vox and other โ€“ they did this hit piece on me to say that Jimmy Corsetti was on Gerald Rogan spreading climate change denial and inaccurate information.
01:28:01.000 The only thing...
01:28:02.000 If you could bring that back up, Jamie, please.
01:28:04.000 The only thing that I said wrong is that I said the data might indicate that the Earth is cold more often than hot.
01:28:10.000 Excuse me, no.
01:28:11.000 The data absolutely, definitively shows that Earth is cold more often than it's hot.
01:28:17.000 And what you're looking at here is straight out of the Utah Geological Survey.
01:28:20.000 It's prestigious.
01:28:21.000 It's found at the top of Google.
01:28:22.000 And what you're looking at here is data from the last 450,000 years...
01:28:26.000 Corroborated from data taken from ice core samples from Antarctica as well as Greenland.
01:28:30.000 And what it shows is that not only are we in the middle of a three million year old ice age, there's something called glacials and interglacials.
01:28:40.000 Glacials are where it's cold and the glaciers grow.
01:28:43.000 Interglacials are where things warm and glaciers recede.
01:28:45.000 What you're seeing here is four, arguably five interglacial periods over just the last five 450,000 years.
01:28:53.000 So never mind hundreds of millions of years ago.
01:28:55.000 What it shows is that the periods of cooling last seven to nine times longer than interglacials, which are periods of warming.
01:29:03.000 And here's the fun part.
01:29:05.000 Interglacials last anywhere from 10,000 to 30,000 years.
01:29:08.000 And our warming started 11,600 years ago, which means that we're already in the window for potential catastrophe for things to start cooling again.
01:29:16.000 So when I was on your show last time and I was mentioning Elon Musk talking about Ice Ages being a deep, deep rabbit hole.
01:29:20.000 Do you remember that?
01:29:21.000 He was talking about it.
01:29:22.000 Thank you.
01:29:23.000 Well, I know what he's talking about.
01:29:24.000 It's this.
01:29:25.000 It means that we're already in the window where things could start cooling again, and when it does, we're in a lot of trouble.
01:29:31.000 I think, and I can't speak on his behalf, I would, God, I gotta tell you, next time, could you just text him and ask him if he thinks it's related to pole shifts?
01:29:39.000 I need to tighten up my study on this, because I'm like, I think, because let me tell you something.
01:29:43.000 Let me share something right now that you've never heard on this show before.
01:29:46.000 You hear everyone talking about cosmic impact hypothesis.
01:29:49.000 You hear people talking about sun cycles.
01:29:52.000 Not a lot of people have been on here talking about pole shifts.
01:29:54.000 Let me give a quick shout out to Ben Davidson of Suspicious Observers.
01:29:58.000 I recommend maybe you link up with him.
01:30:00.000 Nobody has researched the topic of pole shifts and sun cycles as much as him.
01:30:04.000 And he brought something to my attention I had never heard before.
01:30:07.000 Jamie, the very first slide that you showed was of the Gothenburg excursion.
01:30:11.000 So there was a partial pole flip right in the middle.
01:30:14.000 See how it dates between 13,007 and 12,003?
01:30:18.000 So the Younger Dryas started 12,800 years ago.
01:30:22.000 And it's right in the middle of that ballpark range.
01:30:25.000 It is established science that when geomagnetic pole excursions happen, it changes weather patterns on Earth as well as the ocean current.
01:30:34.000 Jamie, if you want to Google, there's a space.com article titled that in 2025, some scientists are suggesting that the Earth's ocean currents may stop.
01:30:44.000 Have you heard this?
01:30:45.000 No.
01:30:48.000 Okay.
01:30:49.000 And nowhere in the articles do they mention anything about pole excursions.
01:30:52.000 So people need to understand that we're already in the middle of a pole excursion, which is a partial pole flip, which means that things are shifting inside the earth.
01:30:59.000 It's also known that that can cause changes in ocean current.
01:31:02.000 Now, most mainstream articles, let me just be fair and tell you what they'll say.
01:31:05.000 They'll say that, oh, no, it's related to man-made climate change.
01:31:07.000 We're changing the currents of the ocean.
01:31:10.000 I don't believe that.
01:31:12.000 But don't allow.
01:31:14.000 Don't let them take your data.
01:31:16.000 Look at this.
01:31:18.000 Nowhere in this article to explain why.
01:31:21.000 But here's the thing.
01:31:22.000 People need to understand that the number one thing that affects weather on Earth is, of course, the sun.
01:31:27.000 The second thing is ocean currents.
01:31:29.000 It's the reason why England is relatively temperate.
01:31:34.000 Go back to that, Jamie.
01:31:37.000 It's the reason why England is relatively temperate is because the Gulf Stream flows up there and it keeps it relatively warm in comparison.
01:31:43.000 The way it says it here, key Atlantic current could collapse soon, impacting the entire world for centuries to come, leading climate scientists warn.
01:31:51.000 So just by saying climate scientists, you're already implying, at least, this is the result of climate change.
01:31:58.000 Right.
01:31:58.000 Which further fuels this agenda that man-made climate change is the cause of all of our woes.
01:32:05.000 Right.
01:32:06.000 Which is a narrative that you're consistently hearing.
01:32:08.000 And again, to be real clear to someone who's going to say something about this, this is not to dismiss pollution.
01:32:13.000 This is not to dismiss our impact on the atmosphere of the earth and what we're dealing with coal plants and all the bullshit that we're doing.
01:32:22.000 For sure, we're doing bad things.
01:32:24.000 Right.
01:32:24.000 Also, if we weren't, We have no control over this thing.
01:32:27.000 This thing is constantly moving and both of those things need to be looked at at the same time.
01:32:32.000 The problem is this whole narrative of climate science has been adopted by these same fucking people that want Twitter pronouns.
01:32:41.000 It's the same sort of thing, and if you have anything to say about it, if you want to talk about a swastika being an ancient symbol, now you're a Nazi.
01:32:50.000 Now you're a climate denier, you're a vaccine denier, you're this or that, you're a Holocaust denier.
01:32:54.000 It's like the same kind of stupid shit.
01:32:56.000 And unfortunately with this one, this one is uniquely tied to money.
01:33:02.000 This one is uniquely tied to green agendas and the enormous amount of funding that is going towards these green agendas and people that are profiting off of spreading this narrative.
01:33:17.000 These philanthropic capitalists that are making hundreds of millions of dollars promoting this idea of climate change being our primary problem.
01:33:27.000 And if you deny it, you're a science denier.
01:33:30.000 And the reason why you shouldn't listen to these people is because they're leaving out the key data involving Earth's historical climate data.
01:33:38.000 They're not including all these other details.
01:33:40.000 And so I think people need to look at pole shifts because it's very interesting in this alternative realm that you have people that are proponents of the cosmic impact hypothesis.
01:33:52.000 You have Dr. Robert Schock with the sun cycles.
01:33:54.000 You have other people talking about pole shifts.
01:33:56.000 I think people should consider that all the above are correct and let me explain why.
01:34:02.000 When pole shifts happen, Earth's shields are diminished.
01:34:05.000 We're in the middle of a pole shift right now.
01:34:07.000 The Earth's shields are diminishing, and it's been happening since the 1800s.
01:34:11.000 It's been accelerating over the last few decades.
01:34:13.000 This is scientific data.
01:34:15.000 The North Pole is shifting at, like, almost 40 miles a year when it was half that just a decade ago.
01:34:21.000 And when the Earth's shields diminish, we are more susceptible to cosmic impacts becauseโ€” 40 miles a year?
01:34:27.000 Google it.
01:34:28.000 This is real.
01:34:29.000 Wow.
01:34:30.000 It's happening.
01:34:31.000 I had no idea.
01:34:31.000 I thought it was feed a year.
01:34:32.000 Now, the mainstream will say, don't worry, it's still another thousand years away.
01:34:36.000 And I'm like, they actually can't prove that because we haven't been alive to document a poll shift.
01:34:41.000 But what I'm trying to say is that we should consider the poll shift thing.
01:34:44.000 Brother, ask Elon Musk his thoughts on this sometime.
01:34:46.000 Well, he actually just tweeted something about it recently.
01:34:49.000 What do you say?
01:34:49.000 He tweeted something about the magnetic poles.
01:34:52.000 Oh, my God!
01:34:53.000 Yeah.
01:34:54.000 He tweeted something about...
01:34:55.000 I think he actually retweeted the...
01:34:58.000 Core of the Earth.
01:34:58.000 What's his face?
01:34:59.000 I forget his name, but you were just shouting out.
01:35:00.000 Ben Davison?
01:35:01.000 Ben Davison.
01:35:01.000 I'm pretty sure he retweeted Ben Davison.
01:35:02.000 Oh, we need to find that out if that's the case.
01:35:04.000 Because here's the He tweets so much, though.
01:35:06.000 It takes so long to go through his tweets.
01:35:08.000 I don't know how he has the time.
01:35:09.000 He does it too much.
01:35:09.000 It's less effective because I'm like, I miss stuff.
01:35:11.000 And I follow him closely, actually.
01:35:14.000 There you go.
01:35:15.000 Look at this.
01:35:15.000 Oh, it's Brian Crustle.
01:35:17.000 Solid rock, beneath which a vast ball of molten rock earth core, which generates most of our magnetic field, is 85% iron and moves independently from the surface plates, which is why the magnetic pole changes position.
01:35:30.000 I love Brian Romelli.
01:35:31.000 If I'm saying his name right, we follow each other.
01:35:33.000 He's a great guy.
01:35:34.000 I think Elon Musk is giving a hint here because you remember how the northern lights were visible as far south as Mexico in the last few months?
01:35:42.000 That was from solar activity, right?
01:35:43.000 Right.
01:35:44.000 But the reason why it's more visible now is because the Earth's shields are diminishing.
01:35:48.000 This is โ€“ I'm not making โ€“ this isn't like from Bob's website.
01:35:51.000 This is mainstream science.
01:35:53.000 Again, Ben Davison has taught me a lot on this, and he was actually on with Alex Jones not long ago, and he really blew Alex Jones' mind.
01:36:00.000 He vetted him.
01:36:01.000 And so what I'm trying to say here is that like this is not being brought into the equation of man-made climate change at all.
01:36:08.000 Well, because of all the things we were talking about, the educators want to be the only ones that distribute the information and they don't want to look at the full picture.
01:36:15.000 They only want to look at this one thing for the greater good of all of us.
01:36:18.000 It's better if you just get people to only focus on getting an electric car.
01:36:22.000 Right.
01:36:24.000 I've always โ€“ ever since I started doing this stuff, I've had people that are like, hey, man, you fact-check scientists.
01:36:29.000 We want you in the climate change debate.
01:36:31.000 And I've always had the opinion of like, look, I'm talking about big old rocks and there's zero skin in the game.
01:36:37.000 And if I'm wrong about that, nothing changes.
01:36:39.000 But if I'm wrong about climate change and I get a bunch of people, I feel a little like it's...
01:36:44.000 It's not your area of expertise.
01:36:45.000 It's not my area of expertise and there's too much skin in the game.
01:36:47.000 Right.
01:36:48.000 But when I did the debunking of Flint Dibble's debunking of Graham, the part about the metallurgy, I spoke with an ice core specialist.
01:36:55.000 And now there ain't but a handful of these dudes on the planet.
01:36:58.000 Literally just a handful of people.
01:36:59.000 That was a very important part of your debunking.
01:37:01.000 Oh, thanks.
01:37:02.000 I appreciate that.
01:37:03.000 You're the guy that blew the roof on that.
01:37:05.000 You're the guy that contacted firsthand.
01:37:07.000 Well, let's explain what you did.
01:37:08.000 Well, I spent an hour on a Zoom chat with a dude because what Flynn had said was that there was no proof of metallurgy in the Ice Age.
01:37:15.000 And, well, of course, there's no proof of it, but he said that we can prove definitively there was no metallurgy.
01:37:20.000 And that's where it's like, well, no, because they look for levels of lead.
01:37:23.000 And levels of lead, that graph you just showed with the interglacial periods, lead follows that.
01:37:28.000 Because when there's...
01:37:29.000 More dust on the ground.
01:37:30.000 The reason they believe is that more dust on the ground, more gets kicked up, more ends up in the glaciers.
01:37:35.000 But that's the same dirt that would be kicked up if they were digging for iron, right?
01:37:38.000 So either way, you're going to end up with more lead in the glaciers.
01:37:42.000 So I talked to this ice core specialist for an hour on Zoom, and I'm like, man, so...
01:37:46.000 Flesh this out for you.
01:37:47.000 Explain to me.
01:37:48.000 So he explains to me how they determine whether or not lead's from an anthropogenic origin or if it's natural, and that's based on if there's an archaeological site that they can match the other isotopes to.
01:37:56.000 He went through all the troubles with it.
01:37:58.000 He even lamented havingโ€”he's got other people in his field that are hardcore anti-pseudoscience because they're climate change deniers they're dealing with.
01:38:07.000 And so he's allโ€”and he's like, some of these guys are just too zealous, overzealous with it.
01:38:11.000 I get where you're coming from.
01:38:13.000 Then I put the video out, and Flint contacts the dude, and next thing you know, well, you know, I didn't exactly say it.
01:38:22.000 He doesn't change what he says.
01:38:23.000 He just kind of implies that I wasn't quite being accurate.
01:38:26.000 He doesn't give a full anything.
01:38:27.000 It makes it vague all of a sudden, and it's quite clear.
01:38:31.000 He was pressured from a fucking archaeologist.
01:38:33.000 He's a climate scientist.
01:38:34.000 Why do you care?
01:38:35.000 Because they're all part of the same little...
01:38:38.000 Twitter keyboard warrior.
01:38:39.000 Twitter cult members.
01:38:41.000 Yeah.
01:38:42.000 And that right there changed my attitude on the whole global warming thing.
01:38:48.000 I was like, that's probably accurate.
01:38:49.000 And I was like, ah, you know, I don't fucking know.
01:38:51.000 I'm going to have to dig into this some because I don't trust you sons of bitches anymore.
01:38:54.000 I know that if somebody pressured him from upstairs, he would have crumpled like a bag because he sure did when Flint pushed him.
01:39:00.000 So...
01:39:02.000 The issue is that it's not like there's one explanation that could conceivably have caused this massive cataclysm.
01:39:11.000 There's probably a lot of variables, just like there's always been.
01:39:15.000 I mean, we always like to conveniently ignore supervolcanoes.
01:39:18.000 When one of those blows, the whole world's fucked.
01:39:21.000 The country's dead.
01:39:22.000 Everyone's fucked.
01:39:23.000 You should consider the possibility that that's related to pole shifts as well.
01:39:26.000 And I can give you a point.
01:39:28.000 There's one that happened.
01:39:29.000 You know, I've heard you talk about before the Toba super eruption.
01:39:32.000 Yeah.
01:39:32.000 Did you know that happened at the same time of a geomagnetic pole excursion?
01:39:36.000 Oh, boy.
01:39:38.000 Well, it makes sense.
01:39:39.000 You're having all this movement.
01:39:40.000 It does.
01:39:40.000 There's movement inside the earth.
01:39:42.000 A full pole shift is when they believe that the innermost portion of the molten within the earth core shifts.
01:39:49.000 A geomagnetic pole excursion is a partial pole flip which they theorize is related to the outer portion of the mantle.
01:39:55.000 The Earth's crust sits on top of molten everything, and when that shifts, it shifts our compasses, and it's not unreasonable to suggest that when something shifts inside the Earth, it would affect things on the surface.
01:40:08.000 I touched on this in the last time I was on, but when it comes to earthquakes, as an example, Some originate in the crust, which is like 28 miles at its thickest, I believe, or on average.
01:40:19.000 And others originate in the molten outer portion of the mantle.
01:40:23.000 Well, if something shifts inside the earth, why wouldn't it cause issues on the surface, whether it be earthquakes or volcanic activity?
01:40:30.000 And some volcanic activity involving supervolcanoes coincides with geomagnetic pole excursions.
01:40:36.000 And so when I was on your show last time talking about pole shifts along with the ice ages, I was part of the same topic.
01:40:43.000 Why is it that Media Matters, funded by George Soros, decided to do a hit piece on Jimmy Corsetti, the YouTuber?
01:40:49.000 Brother, they came after me hard on this, which I, to be honest, I relished over.
01:40:54.000 I was like, this is hilarious.
01:40:55.000 I'm like...
01:40:55.000 Well, they don't understand that it's actually good publicity.
01:40:58.000 It is, and it makes me feel like...
01:40:59.000 They're not credible anymore.
01:41:00.000 Right, and it makes me feel like I'm over the target, because what's that saying about you get the most flack when you're over it?
01:41:04.000 So I'm like, it makes me think that I'm onto something, because nowhere in any of these climate change topics...
01:41:12.000 You know, as far as like the narratives on it, do they mention anything natural involving whether it be pole shifts?
01:41:17.000 They sure as hell don't bring up the green Sahara.
01:41:20.000 They don't bring anywhere into the equation.
01:41:21.000 They don't bring up the scientific fact that the earth was warmer 4,000 years ago.
01:41:25.000 There's Nobel Prize laureates that have been speaking out about this.
01:41:27.000 There's two of them.
01:41:28.000 Dr. Clouser and there's another gentleman I'm going to draw a blank in the top of my head.
01:41:33.000 But like they've shared this data.
01:41:35.000 This is scientific fact and they're getting shunned and ridiculed for it.
01:41:39.000 Yeah, the problem is there's a consensus that's been politically accepted, and it's been talked about so much.
01:41:47.000 It's a political talking point, and if they lose that political talking point, they lose a large percentage of their platform.
01:41:53.000 Oh, yeah.
01:41:54.000 There's so many parts of the liberal, the leftist platform that they need to have these narratives and one of them is climate change and that Donald Trump is a climate change denier.
01:42:08.000 The right-ring people are climate change deniers.
01:42:11.000 Ergo science deniers, ergo racists.
01:42:13.000 It's very, very, very, very stupid and it's bad for all of us because I think we all need to have an understanding of how delicate Our environment is, and how delicate life on Earth is, and that it is this constantly changing thing that has never been static.
01:42:28.000 We know that.
01:42:29.000 We know about the dinosaurs.
01:42:30.000 We know about all these different things.
01:42:32.000 We know about the Ice Age.
01:42:33.000 But we don't truly have a comprehensive narrative that everyone accepts.
01:42:39.000 It's become politicized.
01:42:41.000 Yeah.
01:42:41.000 And it's become politicized by the worst people because they're the cultists.
01:42:45.000 They're the ones that made, not the only ones, but, you know, I'm a lot less political than a lot of people in this community.
01:42:51.000 And I said it when COVID first started getting bad and you could see it on the internet, I was real quick to say, man, we're going to be fucking locked down for years, guys.
01:43:00.000 And everybody's laughing at me, but it's like, it's a political football.
01:43:03.000 Neither side is going to drop a square...
01:43:07.000 We don't live in a society of political compromise anymore.
01:43:10.000 We live in a society of give them an inch, they take a mile.
01:43:12.000 Neither side is going to concede one fucking inch on this, and we're going to be dealing with the same argument three years from now, and lo and behold, we were dealing...
01:43:20.000 That's what's crazy about this is that data has become politicized.
01:43:25.000 Science and data and knowledge has become politicized.
01:43:28.000 Over 80,000 papers were retracted last year.
01:43:32.000 80,000 scientific papers.
01:43:34.000 Like 60% of them were medical.
01:43:37.000 The top 10 most still cited papers that have been retracted are all medical.
01:43:42.000 The medical community is fucked right now from COVID. It turned in on itself and just started.
01:43:47.000 And if you look at their papers and stuff, it's insane.
01:43:50.000 They are all at each other's throats in all kinds of different ways, still citing retracted papers and all kinds of goofy little shit because it became a political football.
01:44:00.000 We can see it on TikTok.
01:44:01.000 You watch it.
01:44:02.000 You watch a nurse come out there and she's going to do her little TikTok and you can just look.
01:44:05.000 Is that a donkey next to her name or an elephant?
01:44:07.000 If it's an elephant, she's going to tell you there's nobody in this hospital.
01:44:10.000 It's fucking empty.
01:44:10.000 If it's a donkey, she's going to tell you about the body outside, a machine outside making corpse starch out of the fucking dead people that they can't bury them as fast as they're dying.
01:44:19.000 It's It was so openly, easily...
01:44:23.000 The average Joe could look right through it.
01:44:25.000 Could just see if this is a fucking...
01:44:26.000 This is just an argument between the two parties, isn't it?
01:44:29.000 They just transferred this to the medical problem.
01:44:32.000 Well, you remember in the beginning days of the pandemic when they were really fear-mongering, when they gave a preposterous number of people that were going to die from COVID? Yes.
01:44:40.000 And what was the percentage at the high point?
01:44:43.000 Was it like 3.5% or something like that?
01:44:46.000 Or was it 30%?
01:44:47.000 It was something nutty.
01:44:48.000 There's a compilation video, Jamie, see if you can find it, where they're dunking on Donald Trump.
01:44:54.000 Because Donald Trump said, I've heard it's less than 1%.
01:44:57.000 He was right.
01:44:58.000 He was totally correct.
01:44:59.000 Quite a bit less than 1%.
01:45:00.000 He was right about the UV stuff, too.
01:45:01.000 But I think they were trying to say that it was 34%.
01:45:05.000 I think that's what they were saying.
01:45:07.000 It's 3.4 or 34. I can't remember which.
01:45:09.000 But they were repeating it ad nauseum on television, that this was going to be the death rate.
01:45:14.000 Of people that got COVID. It's one of the things that justified the lockdowns.
01:45:17.000 If it really was less than 1%, people go, what's the flu?
01:45:22.000 And then you get into the flu, you go, well, what's the percentage difference?
01:45:24.000 It's like 50% difference?
01:45:26.000 Okay, what are we doing?
01:45:27.000 Is this a bad flu?
01:45:28.000 Is that what this is?
01:45:29.000 This is like a bad flu.
01:45:30.000 But you can't say that or you're some kind of anti-science heretic.
01:45:34.000 You're a terrible person.
01:45:35.000 You're killing grandmas.
01:45:36.000 You know, if you want to mix it up, Jamie, there's a video.
01:45:40.000 So last time I was on, I mentioned a clip of Donald Trump talking about it's going to get cold again.
01:45:44.000 And we couldn't find the clip at the time, but I have it in my folder, Jamie.
01:45:47.000 It's just Donald Trump.
01:45:49.000 It's in the front with all the other folders.
01:45:51.000 One step at a time.
01:45:52.000 Let's try to find that video of them all repeating the same thing over and over again.
01:45:57.000 It's Brian Stelter, that little weasel on CNN, constantly repeating the fact that Donald Trump doesn't know what he's talking about.
01:46:04.000 He was right.
01:46:05.000 He was absolutely correct.
01:46:07.000 Donald Trump doesn't just say things out of his butt like people make him out to believe.
01:46:10.000 I'm not saying he doesn't talk in that way.
01:46:14.000 He rants.
01:46:15.000 He's a ranter.
01:46:16.000 If you're a ranter, it's like you're a podcaster.
01:46:18.000 You run the list of talking out your ass every now and again.
01:46:21.000 But he wasn't talking out of his butt with the UV killing off bacteria and viruses.
01:46:25.000 No.
01:46:25.000 No, he just said it in a way that wasn't logical.
01:46:28.000 He said, like, you get the light into your body, and I was like, what is he talking about?
01:46:31.000 But no, they figured out how to get LED lights into lungs to kill viruses.
01:46:37.000 Can you give me a little specific thing to look?
01:46:39.000 Because typing in Donald Trump COVID compilation video gives me a bunch of...
01:46:42.000 Right.
01:46:43.000 COVID death rate.
01:46:45.000 Death rate is what's important.
01:46:47.000 Death rate compilation versus the media.
01:46:51.000 Because the media was the one that were dunking on him, and they were coming up with this ridiculously high rate that turned out to not be accurate at all.
01:46:59.000 Well, I think we have those people, those people, the leftists or whatever you want to call them, the Flint dibbles of the fucking world.
01:47:06.000 These guys are...
01:47:09.000 Like we're talking about with climate change and everything else, they don't want to leave anything in there that could let the other side have anything.
01:47:15.000 They assume that the average rank and file Joe public is dumb as hell.
01:47:20.000 I mean, one of the things they'll always say about ancient apocalypse, complain about, they'll be like, well, he goes on there and he talks shit about archaeologists and everybody's going to believe everything he says because it's so well made.
01:47:30.000 It's like, man...
01:47:31.000 He didn't do that at all.
01:47:32.000 And in the first season, he did talk a little shit about archaeologists.
01:47:36.000 But the bottom, to me, if I'm watching anything, I don't care what it is, if the person says, you know, mainstream scientists disagree with me here, but here's what I have to say.
01:47:46.000 All my alarm bells go off, and that tells me I cannot hang my hat on what this motherfucker's saying.
01:47:50.000 I gotta go Google it.
01:47:52.000 That's what Graham does over and over again.
01:47:53.000 Mainstream archaeologists disagree with me.
01:47:55.000 So...
01:47:56.000 For them to say, everybody in the world is just going to believe this, it's nuts.
01:48:00.000 So it's 3.4%.
01:48:01.000 So this is it.
01:48:03.000 Give me some volume here.
01:48:04.000 I've had a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this.
01:48:07.000 I think the number is way under 1%.
01:48:09.000 So to fact check, the World Health Organization says the coronavirus death rate is 3.4%.
01:48:14.000 President Trump lies that the World Health Organization is wrong.
01:48:18.000 The number is 3.4%.
01:48:19.000 3.4% is what it's being reported.
01:48:21.000 My boy Sanjay.
01:48:40.000 Jesus.
01:48:41.000 Let's go back into history.
01:48:43.000 Trump has a hunch that the death rate is lower than 1%.
01:48:46.000 Way under 1%.
01:48:47.000 Way under 1%.
01:48:48.000 Someone put a mozzarella stick in his stupid hole.
01:48:51.000 Trump lied to viewers about the mortality rate.
01:48:53.000 Way under 1%.
01:48:54.000 False information.
01:48:55.000 He's spreading disinformation.
01:48:57.000 Misinformation and dangerous.
01:48:58.000 Disinformation.
01:48:59.000 If you're president of the United States, you have the world's greatest scientists at your disposal.
01:49:02.000 You listen to them.
01:49:03.000 Leading scientists, including Dr. Fauci, wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine that the death rate could be considerably less than 1%.
01:49:12.000 Way under 1%.
01:49:14.000 See, we've seen enough.
01:49:17.000 These people are fucking puppets, man.
01:49:19.000 They're puppets and they willfully, gleefully repeat these narratives.
01:49:24.000 And instead of saying, well, where did you get that information?
01:49:28.000 Who are you talking to?
01:49:30.000 Let's find out if that's correct.
01:49:32.000 Why does the World Health Organization think it's 3.4%?
01:49:35.000 Is there any nefarious intent behind this whole idea of it killing everybody?
01:49:42.000 That's forcing some enormously profitable venture, like forcing everybody to take these fucking new vaccines that you guys developed.
01:49:50.000 Could that be factored in?
01:49:53.000 Maybe?
01:49:54.000 Well, no.
01:49:55.000 You only hear that it's factored in once everybody's profited and got out, including Bill Gates.
01:50:00.000 Bill Gates, who's on television telling everybody to get the vaccine, you won't get COVID, and then afterwards, ah, it didn't work.
01:50:05.000 After he had unloaded all of his stock, he wasn't effective, and it turns out COVID wasn't as bad as we thought it was.
01:50:11.000 Well, you guys are really responsible for a bunch of people taking a medication that was unproven.
01:50:17.000 You're responsible for all the side effects.
01:50:19.000 You're responsible for all these, and you're responsible for fear-mongering, lying, closing down businesses, ruining economies, changing the political structure of the country.
01:50:29.000 They need to be held to account.
01:50:31.000 I'm not going to forget this.
01:50:32.000 And a lot of other people wouldn't.
01:50:33.000 People's lives were destroyed.
01:50:36.000 And it is, I mean, there needs to be a reckoning.
01:50:40.000 Elon recently said that his pronouns are still prosecute Fauci.
01:50:45.000 I love it.
01:50:46.000 I love it.
01:50:46.000 He has a real possibility of making an impact.
01:50:50.000 Oh, yes, he does.
01:50:51.000 I mean, they listen to him.
01:50:53.000 When it comes to the economic side of it, I honestly think, out of everything, the jab notwithstanding, just strictly from a top-down perspective, those guys...
01:51:06.000 It's the most immense transfer of wealth in modern history.
01:51:09.000 Amazon, Walmart, eBay, all these motherfuckers cleaned house.
01:51:13.000 And you know what shut down?
01:51:13.000 In Spokane, we lost White Elephant.
01:51:15.000 This guy had started in the 40s after World War II. He would buy surplus and put it in this store.
01:51:19.000 He had fishing wars for 30 cents, fucking Transformers from the 80s.
01:51:22.000 I was buying in 2000 and selling them on eBay.
01:51:24.000 He had all kinds of shit there.
01:51:26.000 And he went out of business because he had to close his doors.
01:51:28.000 Everything.
01:51:29.000 Everything.
01:51:30.000 Restaurants in California.
01:51:31.000 You can't even go to fucking Walmart at 2 in the morning like we did.
01:51:35.000 Everything's closed now at a certain time compared to where it was.
01:51:38.000 Everything's changed.
01:51:39.000 It's hugely important because the coronavirus doesn't stay up.
01:51:42.000 It doesn't stay up.
01:51:43.000 It goes to sleep.
01:51:43.000 And it doesn't exist when you walk to your table and sit down.
01:51:46.000 All the homeless people need a place to hang out and so Walmart parking lot at 2 a.m., that's when they show up.
01:51:51.000 I meant actually the opposite.
01:51:53.000 The coronavirus comes out at night.
01:51:54.000 But it doesn't even.
01:51:55.000 The whole thing was so dumb because then they allowed Black Lives Matter protests.
01:51:58.000 Like, what about six-foot distancing?
01:52:00.000 Everybody's breathing.
01:52:01.000 They're screaming.
01:52:02.000 They're all yelling down the street.
01:52:04.000 And you guys think that's not going to spread it?
01:52:06.000 Right.
01:52:06.000 And the brain-dead stuff behind this symbolism.
01:52:08.000 I talked about this a long time ago on my channel.
01:52:11.000 The person that thought of, oh, we're going to have this band play.
01:52:14.000 Let's get them masks that have a big hole in it to show solidarity with everybody in the audience.
01:52:18.000 That person's a fucking idiot.
01:52:19.000 It's like, everybody's just going to look at that and be like that.
01:52:22.000 How about people swimming?
01:52:23.000 So we don't need masks.
01:52:24.000 Oh my God.
01:52:24.000 Swim with masks on.
01:52:26.000 It hurts me to see those clips.
01:52:28.000 COVID was one of the biggest IQ tests in modern times.
01:52:32.000 Well, it was really a compliance test.
01:52:34.000 That's what it was.
01:52:35.000 It was a lot of compliance.
01:52:37.000 And check to see how many cowards there are out there that even though they know something to be true, are terrified of the blowback so they don't speak about it.
01:52:45.000 And when you do speak about it, you do get attacked.
01:52:47.000 You know, I obviously experienced that, and I was fascinated by it.
01:52:50.000 I mean, it was kind of horrifying to watch, but also fascinating.
01:52:53.000 Like, oh, so this is real.
01:52:55.000 Like, you guys are just completely all lock and step and all full of shit.
01:53:00.000 And you don't even care that I got better quick.
01:53:03.000 Brought to you by Pfizer.
01:53:04.000 Yeah.
01:53:04.000 And you can watch how the worldโ€”you can see this from a world perspective, too.
01:53:07.000 Different communities all around the world reacted differently.
01:53:10.000 I rememberโ€” Lots of people, oh, why can't we do like Korea and Japan?
01:53:14.000 Almost everybody's wearing a mask over there and they do all this reporting and all this stuff.
01:53:17.000 It's like, yeah.
01:53:18.000 You ever been there, man?
01:53:19.000 You ever talked to any Koreans or Japanese people?
01:53:20.000 Their fucking culture is lockstep compared to ours.
01:53:24.000 There's no counterculture in those communities.
01:53:27.000 Counterculture, people are all in jail.
01:53:30.000 You have one community.
01:53:31.000 So, yeah, they're told to do this, they fucking do it.
01:53:33.000 Well, obviously, though, our media is so compromised, so obviously compromised.
01:53:39.000 And, you know, Kali Means has a really good point about this.
01:53:41.000 He was saying that the reason why they spend so much money advertising on cable news is not because it's effective.
01:53:50.000 It's because once they do that, now cable news cannot criticize them.
01:53:55.000 Right.
01:53:55.000 It's so much smarter.
01:53:57.000 Because it's like, listen, we're spending all this money just to make sure that you guys toe the line.
01:54:03.000 That's what they're doing.
01:54:04.000 And so the news is not the news.
01:54:07.000 It's only the news if an advertiser agrees that it's the news.
01:54:11.000 And that's not good.
01:54:14.000 No, it's really bad.
01:54:15.000 That's not good for anybody.
01:54:16.000 Left wing, right wing.
01:54:17.000 If you think that somehow or another money gives a fuck about your political persuasion, It's so stupid that it got attached to a political ideology and from the most compliant of people.
01:54:29.000 Those are the ones who are the most willing to go along with the narrative because the consequences on the left of coloring outside the lines, they attack you so hard.
01:54:38.000 They crush you so hard, like this martyr-made situation.
01:54:42.000 Anything.
01:54:42.000 Anything where you're stepping outside the line to talk about it.
01:54:45.000 Like what you experience just discussing something that turns out to be absolutely correct.
01:54:49.000 They fund a big hit piece about you, which essentially acts as an advertisement for you.
01:54:54.000 Right.
01:54:54.000 It just builds your channel.
01:54:55.000 It's the Streisand effect.
01:54:56.000 Right.
01:54:56.000 Then people go to your channel and go, this guy's great.
01:54:58.000 Fucking show's awesome.
01:54:59.000 This is interesting information and just undeniable facts, the undeniable facts that no one can discuss, no one can debate in any way, shape or form the actual size of these stones, where they came from.
01:55:11.000 This is not under debate.
01:55:13.000 So just the undeniable stuff is unbelievably fascinating.
01:55:17.000 And then when they go to your channel, they go, where's all the Nazi shit?
01:55:21.000 I heard this guy was a Nazi.
01:55:22.000 I'm looking for some Nazi shit.
01:55:23.000 I'm just getting facts.
01:55:24.000 You know, we should go back to Gobekli Tepe, Ganung Padang, and the Great Pyramid because there's some more stuff involving archaeology and lack of excavations that are actually pretty significant.
01:55:35.000 So going back to Gobekli Tepe, one of the photos that, Jamie, that you showed earlier was before excavations began, and do you notice that there was no trees there?
01:55:44.000 So one of the controversies is Is that there's some 800 trees that were planted on the site a full decade after excavations began.
01:55:51.000 And the trees are planted on top of ancient ruins, which stand to not only destroy the ruins, but also highlights that they can't excavate what's underneath them while the trees are there.
01:56:06.000 And so here's the before and after.
01:56:07.000 So what's the conventional explanation for why they planted all these trees over a site that they know is filled with ruins underneath it?
01:56:26.000 Yeah.
01:56:41.000 It's priceless.
01:56:41.000 Now, to be fair, and Dan, you've harped on this, and I really agree with you.
01:56:45.000 It's government stuff.
01:56:46.000 If the feds are going to buy your land for a highway, they don't care what's underneath.
01:56:50.000 They don't care if it's an Indian burial ground or what.
01:56:51.000 It's what's this land worth in this city, this kind of property.
01:56:54.000 So they made it an orchard instead of a desert.
01:56:56.000 Now, here's the thing, though.
01:56:57.000 Of all things, they planted olive trees, and there's something that was enacted.
01:57:01.000 It's called the Olive Law in Turkey in the 1930s, where it's illegal to cut down olive trees in Turkey.
01:57:06.000 Right.
01:57:07.000 So I'm like, well that's interesting.
01:57:09.000 And let me ask you this real quick.
01:57:11.000 Imagine being the owner of that property and you've got this, you've found these ruins here, you've got all these people coming out, they're paying you money to check shit out, you're selling all kinds of stuff, and now the government's gonna take it from you.
01:57:23.000 You've had it for ten fucking years, now the government's saying it's theirs.
01:57:26.000 So you go out and you start planting trees.
01:57:28.000 So when you dig a hole to plant that tree, you find an artifact.
01:57:31.000 Do you put that in the pile of artifacts to hand to Klaus Schmidt, or do you put that in the pile to sell to the antique collector that's not going to tell anybody?
01:57:37.000 Obviously.
01:57:38.000 He's pissed off.
01:57:39.000 My opinion is that guy sold a ton of fucking artifacts while that was going down.
01:57:44.000 Why wouldn't you?
01:57:45.000 Now, are there artifacts connected to Gobekli Tepe?
01:57:48.000 Yeah, they find stuff.
01:57:49.000 Like, what kind of stuff?
01:57:50.000 No pottery or anything, but they have found, like, one of the biggest things is a bunch of chunks of stone.
01:57:55.000 Like, to archaeologists, even, they call a microchip, which would be like a tiny little piece you get from, that's still technically an artifact.
01:58:02.000 So there's a lot of that kind of stuff.
01:58:04.000 There are a lot of bones that have been charred and things like that.
01:58:06.000 But there's nothing too terribly amazing.
01:58:09.000 No tools?
01:58:10.000 Well, nothing too crazy.
01:58:12.000 But again, that's the kind of stuff that would possibly, you know...
01:58:16.000 This is where my skepticism can get a little cynical.
01:58:19.000 You know, I'm of the opinion if the Antikythera mechanism would have been identified as what it is when they pulled it out of the ocean, they would have never made it to a museum.
01:58:25.000 That there was somebody...
01:58:26.000 I was telling Jim last night we were having dinner, if the reports of giant bones that you see in the 1930s from guys that were over in New Mexico and they're bringing them back to the Smithsonian and they just never made it there, if they really did find giant bones, which I'm skeptical of, but if they did,
01:58:41.000 this is probably an advertisement to sell them while they're traveling these things across the country.
01:58:45.000 Oh, you know, just happened to lose them along the way because this dude came over and bought them.
01:58:50.000 This has been a problem since day one.
01:58:52.000 Especially when you think about those kind of like Crazy, old-school Rockefeller-type billionaires who really love to control information and everything.
01:59:02.000 If you have access to something that just undeniably throws the whole timeline into a question or throws a narrative of human beings into a question.
01:59:11.000 Now you've got some power with that little artifact, don't you?
01:59:15.000 I'm of the opinion that that's been a problem.
01:59:17.000 I don't believe in the Dendera light.
01:59:19.000 I assume you know what the Dendera light is.
01:59:20.000 Well, you glossed over the Antikythera, how do you say it?
01:59:24.000 The Antikythera mechanism?
01:59:25.000 Antikythera.
01:59:26.000 That one is fascinating.
01:59:27.000 It's crazy, ain't it?
01:59:28.000 Because that is, how old is it?
01:59:29.000 It's like 2,000 years old, 3,000 years old, something like that.
01:59:31.000 2,000 years old.
01:59:32.000 It's a hand-carved brass machine that you use to, it tracks the cycles of the moon, the earth, and different planets in our solar system.
01:59:43.000 It's brilliant.
01:59:44.000 Yeah.
01:59:45.000 And they didn't know what it was, and they found it.
01:59:47.000 It was like some Corroded up gears and then they start doing some sort of a I mean, I don't even know how they did it how they Understand all the different pieces of it because it's all corroded together But they use some sort of scanning mechanism correct to and see if you can find what it actually looks like Yeah,
02:00:06.000 you can buy replicas of it nowadays.
02:00:08.000 They make little boxes of the damn thing.
02:00:09.000 That's what it looked like when they found it Yeah, but now show what it looks like when they've done a scan of it.
02:00:14.000 I just stumbled across something interesting too when the guy found it he Heap of dead naked people.
02:00:20.000 Whoa!
02:00:21.000 Whoa!
02:00:23.000 He emerged from the sea, shaking in fear and mumbling about a heap of dead naked people.
02:00:27.000 He was among a group of Greek divers from the eastern Mediterranean island of Simi who were searching for natural sponges.
02:00:33.000 They had sheltered from a violent storm near the tiny island of How do you say it again?
02:00:59.000 So see if you can find what this mechanism looks like, what it actually looks like.
02:01:04.000 There's a replica.
02:01:05.000 Yeah, so this is the replica of this thing.
02:01:07.000 This incredible piece of engineering from 2,000 years ago, where all these gears and all these planets and you could figure out where everything was.
02:01:19.000 How?
02:01:20.000 How?
02:01:22.000 How'd they do this?
02:01:23.000 How'd they do this?
02:01:23.000 And this is beyond what we ever thought was available back then.
02:01:27.000 No, there is a YouTube channel that a guy goes through.
02:01:29.000 I forget his name, but he does go through and he makes one of these with old school tools, but he's making each gear by hand.
02:01:36.000 He's making the wire by hand.
02:01:37.000 Boy, that guy's a dork.
02:01:38.000 He's a dork, yes.
02:01:40.000 Bring him on the show.
02:01:42.000 Greatest possible version of a dork.
02:01:44.000 I'm eating a good But it is fun to watch.
02:01:46.000 Incredible, though.
02:01:47.000 But at the end of the day, that's interesting to be able to recreate it.
02:01:52.000 But the planning of the thing, that's really where the engineering, the mathematics.
02:01:56.000 And then you have to take into consideration, what is this based on?
02:02:00.000 What knowledge was available back then that we did not think was?
02:02:04.000 So we're talking about 2,000 years ago.
02:02:06.000 This is the time of Christ.
02:02:08.000 We did not think that they had any kind of machines that were in any way similar to that thing.
02:02:14.000 What else don't we know?
02:02:15.000 What else is lost?
02:02:17.000 How much of that stuff is gone?
02:02:19.000 Like, if this is 2,000 years ago and it's that corroded, what does 10,000 years do to it?
02:02:23.000 Right?
02:02:23.000 Oh, it'd be dust at the bottom.
02:02:25.000 And the fact they even found it at the bottom of the ocean is a miracle in itself.
02:02:28.000 This is what's important to understand.
02:02:30.000 And this is another lie that Flink Dibble told about the number of shipwrecks that have been fined.
02:02:36.000 Not only that, but what would be left over after just a few thousand years.
02:02:41.000 And that when they find these...
02:02:43.000 1,000-year-old shipwrecks, they don't find any wood anymore.
02:02:47.000 You just find the pottery.
02:02:48.000 So you just know where the shipwreck is because there's a bunch of gold on the ground and some pots.
02:02:53.000 But if you go back 10,000 years before that, how much has the surface of the floor of the ocean shifted?
02:03:01.000 How much of that stuff has been covered up?
02:03:03.000 How much is it...
02:03:04.000 10,000 years is so long.
02:03:06.000 Now, what if it's 20,000?
02:03:08.000 What if it's 30,000?
02:03:09.000 To say we don't know is the correct thing.
02:03:13.000 It's the correct thing to do.
02:03:14.000 And that's what nobody wants to do.
02:03:16.000 There's a hypothesis.
02:03:17.000 It's more of a mental...
02:03:21.000 I forget the name of what you call it.
02:03:23.000 Like a mind teaser.
02:03:24.000 Like a way to make your brain think.
02:03:25.000 It's called the Silurian hypothesis.
02:03:28.000 The Silurians are a doctor who...
02:03:30.000 Monster that supposedly lived on Earth like millions of years before humans wake up one day and they find all these monkeys running around.
02:03:36.000 They decide they don't like us.
02:03:37.000 But the hypothesis is, how would you determine if there was a species or an advanced civilization that lived on the Earth a million years ago, five million years ago?
02:03:45.000 As soon as we have fossil fuels, as long as we had the first bit of oil had been created on the planet, you could have a civilization like ours.
02:03:53.000 So what would you look for?
02:03:56.000 The only conclusion is maybe nuclear stuff.
02:03:58.000 If they test it, like maybe a nuclear power plant, we might still be able to find some radioactive material.
02:04:02.000 But beyond that, not a goddamn thing.
02:04:05.000 After 10 million years, you're going to find a fucking bit of it.
02:04:08.000 That's what their conclusion is.
02:04:09.000 And this is a scientific thing.
02:04:10.000 This is a thought tool.
02:04:11.000 That's what it's called.
02:04:12.000 It's something that they use in science, in archaeology and history and stuff, presumably, to...
02:04:18.000 To look at that problem.
02:04:20.000 But these guys, like Flint, obviously didn't do that.
02:04:22.000 Like I said, he thinks people are stupid.
02:04:24.000 He said, right here on, sitting in this room, that, oh, well, you know, it doesn't matter how long something's underwater.
02:04:29.000 You might think that it matters how long something's underwater, but it really does.
02:04:32.000 It's like, are you fucking kidding me?
02:04:33.000 Of course it does.
02:04:34.000 Anybody knows that.
02:04:36.000 Of course it does, just in terms of whether or not you're going to find it.
02:04:39.000 They haven't done, like, a comprehensive LIDAR scan of the bottom of the ocean floor.
02:04:43.000 They just have not done that.
02:04:44.000 That's not possible right now.
02:04:46.000 But if they did do it, who fucking knows what they'd find down there?
02:04:50.000 Well, here's where things get nuts is that here we are talking about things as far as tens of thousands of years.
02:04:54.000 So we do have a site that Graham Hancock highlighted in Season 1 of Ancient Apocalypse called Ganung Penang in Indonesia.
02:05:01.000 And Jamie, I have a folder on this.
02:05:03.000 So this pyramidal structure could potentially be 27,000 years old.
02:05:09.000 It's hotly debated.
02:05:10.000 But as Graham Hancock highlighted...
02:05:13.000 There is a subterranean tunnel and chamber which may have those dates, and it's not being excavated.
02:05:20.000 And a geologist, Danny Nanabajawa, I never pronounce it correctly, forgive me, Danny.
02:05:26.000 But he is a geologist that analyzed the ground-penetrating radar, and he said there's strong likelihood that it's man-made.
02:05:32.000 Now, the skeptics, the academics will say, well, it's probably just a lava tube because the structure is volcanic in nature.
02:05:41.000 But something interesting has happened that back in 2014, the Indonesian government said that they were willing to allocate unlimited resources and funding to excavate the site.
02:05:51.000 Something shifted a handful of years ago where they're not excavating it now.
02:05:55.000 And as of today, there's no plan in place to find out what that subterranean chamber is.
02:06:01.000 So if it was indeed manmade, we don't know.
02:06:03.000 It could be natural.
02:06:04.000 It could be manmade.
02:06:05.000 But we're never going to know what it is until we go digging.
02:06:08.000 What we do know for sure is that people occupied the land above it after that.
02:06:13.000 100%.
02:06:13.000 100%.
02:06:15.000 That is a man-made structure.
02:06:16.000 It was volcanic in nature, but they terraced it.
02:06:20.000 It's a pyramidal-like structure.
02:06:22.000 It's not a pyramid.
02:06:23.000 And we do have examples over and over again of truly ancient things, unexplainable things, where people built more crude versions above it.
02:06:31.000 All over the world.
02:06:32.000 All over the world.
02:06:33.000 The lava tubes, there's all kinds of places in South America where they have a big pyramid built on top of a spring.
02:06:39.000 The lava tube could have been a cave that was sacred that they just kept embellishing and kept embellishing and kept embellishing, saying it's just a lava tube, not a man-made tunnel down there as a non sequitur.
02:06:49.000 Anybody who knows anything about ancient history could understand how a sacred site could have a pyramid built on top of it.
02:06:55.000 Let's take a bathroom break and we'll come back.
02:06:56.000 Awesome.
02:06:57.000 Okay, so where were we?
02:06:59.000 We were about the lack of excavations at Ganong Panang, and this should segue into something that's very, very interesting, which is the Great Pyramid of Giza.
02:07:09.000 I've already said that Gobekli Tepe is arguably not just the oldest, but the most mysterious ancient site on Earth because it's not supposed to exist.
02:07:16.000 However, the Great Pyramid of Giza Like Christopher Dunn stuff.
02:07:45.000 Which is a fascinating topic and I'll have a story involving me visiting it there with a certain person that really is โ€“ it's a story in itself.
02:07:53.000 But let me say this.
02:07:55.000 So there โ€“ back in โ€“ eight years ago, back in 2016 through Muon Technology, they discovered that there's a hidden chamber in the Great Pyramid which is massive.
02:08:06.000 Jamie, I have a folder on this, Great Pyramid Hidden Void.
02:08:09.000 And it was established in 2017 through a scientific study.
02:08:14.000 So we're talking seven โ€“ discovered eight years ago corroborated โ€“ or eight years ago corroborated seven years ago in a study.
02:08:20.000 No Egyptologist debates it at all.
02:08:22.000 Is that a rough interpretation of the shape?
02:08:24.000 Yes.
02:08:24.000 They don't know the exact shape of it.
02:08:26.000 They have an approximate size and an approximate shape.
02:08:30.000 So now many theorize that it is a second so-called Grand Gallery.
02:08:35.000 It was originally thought to be 30 meters long.
02:08:37.000 Now they have it at over 40 meters long, so almost 150 feet.
02:08:41.000 And it is above the so-called Grand Gallery.
02:08:45.000 And so when they first discovered it, Zahiwas came out of the woodwork and like denounced it and said, this is nothing, you know, you know.
02:08:52.000 And they said they're going to spend a few years debating with the international community on how to go about it.
02:08:56.000 Brother, that was seven, eight years ago, almost rounding up to a decade.
02:09:01.000 And as of today, there is no plan of any kind to go in and find out what's in there.
02:09:06.000 So they would have to go through the walls to get to it?
02:09:09.000 No.
02:09:09.000 Actually, brother, they could just drill a half-inch diameter hole and set a little tube camber through it, and they could figure out what's in there by the end of the week.
02:09:17.000 Get an endoscope right there, just like when you go to the doctor.
02:09:20.000 And here's what's so important about this.
02:09:22.000 Like, we're talking about the most debated and arguably the most important structure in all of human history.
02:09:27.000 Was it a tomb?
02:09:28.000 Was it a lost technology?
02:09:30.000 We have no idea how they even built it.
02:09:31.000 That's the only thing that's more debated than that is how did the Egyptians construct the pyramid?
02:09:36.000 So many theories have already been debunked on it.
02:09:38.000 We just don't know how they did it.
02:09:39.000 2,300,000 stones that were supposedly all put in place within 20 years.
02:09:44.000 Right, right.
02:09:46.000 The 20 years part, I've referred to that as like the gateway drug to becoming a pyramidion.
02:09:52.000 That 20 years thing is the stupidest fucking thing.
02:09:55.000 Any guy who's ever stacked bricks for five minutes knows that is absurd.
02:10:00.000 But they just run with that because, you know, you can'tโ€”that's one of the weird things.
02:10:04.000 The written record is more robust to them than the actual, like, science.
02:10:08.000 Like, the carbon dating for the pyramid and the written record are a couple hundred years off.
02:10:12.000 All in the entire Fourth Dynasty, the carbon dating is a couple hundred years off.
02:10:15.000 They just come up with some explanation for it and stick to that written record.
02:10:18.000 Well, my favorite is when they look at the hieroglyphs that depict pharaohs from 30,000 years ago.
02:10:23.000 They're like, oh, that's all bullshit.
02:10:24.000 Yeah.
02:10:24.000 A little further down, this is important shit here.
02:10:29.000 Why do you think that the 30,000-year mark is bullshit, but the 5,000-year mark is legit?
02:10:34.000 That is really weird, guys.
02:10:36.000 It is.
02:10:37.000 Why are you conveniently ignoring all this other stuff while validating the more recent stuff?
02:10:42.000 Because it contradicts the textbooks they already wrote.
02:10:44.000 It contradicts the educators.
02:10:46.000 That dynamic, sorry, really quick, that dynamic, you mentioned Christopher Dunn, when he saw one of my recent videos about two months ago, me and him are going to start, he's going to come on my channel and each artifact that he's covered, we're going to discuss one at a time.
02:10:58.000 He knows I don't believe in ancient high technology and he told me, basically to summarize what he said is that he is tired of having either yes men or cynics.
02:11:07.000 He wants somebody that doesn't agree with him to sit down and have a conversation about these things and that'll be honest and we can actually get somewhere.
02:11:16.000 It was like the guy had been waiting 40 years for me.
02:11:18.000 I had a fucking GED and I worked as an electrician.
02:11:21.000 I should not be the one sitting in the chair next to the man.
02:11:24.000 But all the people qualified to do it want to treat him like he's an idiot.
02:11:27.000 Right.
02:11:28.000 And his theory is very fascinating.
02:11:30.000 It was some sort of a power plant generated hydrogen.
02:11:33.000 And it's feasible.
02:11:34.000 It's wild.
02:11:35.000 And I got to tell you, you know, when you walk through the Great Pyramid, there's nothing about it that resembles anything like a tomb.
02:11:41.000 It seems like it was some sort of industrial function that had a function of some kind.
02:11:47.000 So here's a story.
02:11:49.000 And I have his permission to share it.
02:11:51.000 So I had the โ€“ the only thing more wild than the topic of the mysteries of lost ancient civilizations is the diverse nature of people that are into this topic.
02:12:01.000 So I had the pleasure of connecting with George St. Pierre.
02:12:05.000 The GOAT, the legendary UFC fighter.
02:12:08.000 And because of him is how I went with him to Baalbek.
02:12:10.000 He had unique connections and I was able to go with him and we had connected.
02:12:13.000 And then I went with him from there to Egypt.
02:12:15.000 And we went inside the Great Pyramid.
02:12:17.000 It was his first time in there.
02:12:19.000 And we basically tipped the guard.
02:12:22.000 I'll just say it.
02:12:23.000 And we had the King's Chamber alone to ourselves for a few minutes.
02:12:26.000 And we were with Yusuf Awian, who's the son of the late Akim Abdel Awian, who was the mentor of John Anthony West.
02:12:33.000 And he was in the pyramid code.
02:12:35.000 And so George laid in the so-called sarcophagus.
02:12:41.000 And Yusuf did the om.
02:12:43.000 I can't do it, but you do it with your throat.
02:12:45.000 And he does it inside the box.
02:12:46.000 And it makes the whole granite box vibrate.
02:12:49.000 It's wild.
02:12:50.000 It's the reverberation off the stone.
02:12:53.000 So he did that to George.
02:12:54.000 George laid in it.
02:12:56.000 And he did it for about a minute.
02:12:59.000 So George comes out of the box.
02:13:02.000 His eyes were wide open.
02:13:04.000 And he said, yeah, there he is.
02:13:06.000 He said, I'm coming out of retirement.
02:13:09.000 I'm going to win the title.
02:13:11.000 And he just started pacing around the room.
02:13:14.000 So fast forward three, four hours later, I'm in the hotel pool with him.
02:13:19.000 What year was this?
02:13:20.000 Just last year, September of 2023. And just to clarify, at that time, he was considering doing a grappling match.
02:13:28.000 That's not what he was talking about.
02:13:29.000 He was talking about winning the UFC world title again.
02:13:31.000 So fast forward a few hours later, I'm at the hotel, the Mina House, Marriott hotel pool with the pyramids overlooking us.
02:13:38.000 And I'm like, hey, George.
02:13:42.000 You said you were thinking about coming out of retirement.
02:13:44.000 And he's like, I love his accent.
02:13:46.000 No, Jimmy, I'm not coming out of retirement.
02:13:49.000 And I said, well, what made you say that?
02:13:52.000 And he's like, he thought about it.
02:13:54.000 He's like, it's just how I felt.
02:13:56.000 So just to clarify, arguably the GOAT, although him and Jon Jones, you know, they're comparable, just different, but the GOAT. And his first inclination out of coming out of the box with his eyes wide open was,
02:14:12.000 It was like, I'm coming out of retirement.
02:14:14.000 I'm going to win the title.
02:14:15.000 And I asked, and he's like, no, I'm not going to do it.
02:14:17.000 It's just how I felt in the moment.
02:14:19.000 And I'm like, when people talk about it in the context of it being some sort of energy device, some people have speculated that with all these legends of humans living to hundreds and even thousands of years, some people have proposed that maybe it was a DNA restoration.
02:14:31.000 I have no idea what it was.
02:14:32.000 I just don't think it was a tomb.
02:14:34.000 I think it was something else.
02:14:35.000 I think it was a functional structure of some kind.
02:14:38.000 But the fact that someone like him, with his history and his accomplishments, the fact that that was the first thing that he felt coming out of that box after doing the reverberation thing, is a story.
02:14:50.000 I don't know what to make of it.
02:14:51.000 I think that's normal.
02:14:53.000 Yeah?
02:14:53.000 Yeah, I think a guy like that has always got it in the back of his head.
02:14:58.000 That's a good point.
02:14:59.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the highlights of his life.
02:15:01.000 When he was conquering everyone in the welterweight division, he was the greatest fighter on the planet Earth.
02:15:07.000 It's the highlight of his life.
02:15:09.000 So anytime he gets an elevated feeling, I'm sure that's one of the reasons why a lot of old fighters, they drink a lot or they do drugs.
02:15:17.000 I think they're trying to...
02:15:19.000 They experience highs that most people could never imagine.
02:15:23.000 And I think whenever they experience a new high, some new thing, they get in their head, I'm making a fucking comeback.
02:15:28.000 And they want to chase that dragon.
02:15:31.000 They get in the ring with Jake Paul.
02:15:33.000 Sorry.
02:15:35.000 That probably had more to do with money.
02:15:36.000 But it's just this thing that just is in every one of those people.
02:15:41.000 Yeah, that makes sense.
02:15:43.000 Although, the fact that he's laying inside the Great Pyramid, and you would almost think that'd be the furthest thing from his mind at the time.
02:15:50.000 No, it's an elevated experience.
02:15:51.000 That's right.
02:15:52.000 So it's an elevated experience.
02:15:53.000 It makes him very excited.
02:15:55.000 And when a guy like that is very excited, he thinks about the most exciting thing he's ever done.
02:15:59.000 He's like, I'm going to fucking go do it again.
02:16:01.000 We've got to get you in that box.
02:16:02.000 We've got to get you in the Great Pyramid.
02:16:03.000 I'd like to go in the box.
02:16:04.000 I'd like to go there.
02:16:05.000 I really would.
02:16:06.000 It's just a matter of carving out the time.
02:16:09.000 Right.
02:16:09.000 And I really have to do it.
02:16:11.000 Especially, let's see what happens with the world.
02:16:13.000 Right.
02:16:14.000 The world just keeps getting sketchier and sketchier in certain parts of the world.
02:16:17.000 Right.
02:16:18.000 Sadly.
02:16:19.000 Yeah, sadly.
02:16:19.000 But it would be nice to be able to visit.
02:16:21.000 Going back to the point of this hidden chamber.
02:16:24.000 Yeah.
02:16:24.000 Why would you not want to explore that?
02:16:27.000 It makes no feasible sense.
02:16:29.000 Let's just say that, well, first of all, whether it was a tomb or something else, we could find out by going in there.
02:16:36.000 Maybe there's a pharaoh in there.
02:16:38.000 Maybe we would instantly know that, okay, all this conjecture and debate has now been put aside.
02:16:44.000 We know that there could It's where they stashed the dude for real.
02:16:48.000 And here's something else.
02:16:49.000 A lot of conjecture as far as a lost technology.
02:16:52.000 Could there be some sort of evidence of a tooling on how they constructed it?
02:16:55.000 Could there be evidence on how it was constructed itself?
02:16:57.000 Even if it's a completely empty room and nothing else, we still would have learned something new.
02:17:02.000 In fact, I've joked to other people like, hey, they could turn this into a pay-per-view event.
02:17:07.000 I bet you 100 million people around I was just thinking.
02:17:10.000 Yeah, I know.
02:17:11.000 But even if there's nothing in it, even if there's nothing in it, it's still a win because we will learn something new.
02:17:16.000 And it is, look, the academics will say, well, we don't want to damage the pyramid anymore.
02:17:21.000 I'm like, okay, I respect that.
02:17:24.000 But the thing is already a wreck.
02:17:25.000 They use tons of dynamite to blast their way in it.
02:17:27.000 The casing stones are all blown off.
02:17:29.000 They drill holes in it on the regular to check things.
02:17:32.000 It's not...
02:17:32.000 I don'tโ€”so between Gobekli Tepe not being fully excavated, Ganung Padang, as well as the Great Pyramid, arguably the three oldest and most mysterious ancient sites on Earth for some reason are not being appropriately excavated.
02:17:45.000 Isn't there a chamber underneath the Sphinx as well?
02:17:47.000 Well, there's a ton ofโ€” Yeah, there's something there, but they're notโ€”it'sโ€” Smaller?
02:17:52.000 It's smaller, and Zahi Hwa stuck his nose down in the tiny little chamber that's down there.
02:17:57.000 They say that there's supposed to be something more there, but, like, that'sโ€” Dicey as far as what they know for sure.
02:18:03.000 They have never released any photos or video of any kind underneath the Sphinx.
02:18:07.000 So it's like, okay, just stick a camera in there with a flashlight and show us that there's nothing in there.
02:18:11.000 Or just show us what is in there.
02:18:13.000 Show us the walls.
02:18:14.000 They say there's nothing in there.
02:18:16.000 I'm like, okay, show me what nothing looks like.
02:18:19.000 Look, I'm an outsider in this, and I have an inquisitive mindset.
02:18:24.000 You're not.
02:18:24.000 You're a human being on planet Earth, and you're a part of history.
02:18:28.000 And you know what?
02:18:28.000 Every single person alive has an inherent right to know the true history of our origins and I don't care what country you're born in because people have come after me like you it is none of your business what's happening at Gobekli Tepe you're not a Turkish citizen and I say excuse me it is a they elected for it to become a World Heritage Site so they have thrown that out the window it is It's everyone's business.
02:18:50.000 It surely is.
02:18:51.000 That's a silly argument.
02:18:52.000 It's a silly argument.
02:18:53.000 It doesn't make any sense.
02:18:54.000 You don't have any place to weigh in on Nazi Germany because you don't live in Germany.
02:18:58.000 It's the people of Earth.
02:19:00.000 It's like we have a very fractured understanding of the history of the people on Earth.
02:19:06.000 Gebekli Tepe is an excellent piece of evidence that points to that.
02:19:09.000 We don't really understand why they did it or who did it.
02:19:12.000 And there's probably more of those things out there that we missed.
02:19:15.000 The Sahara Desert is the greatest example.
02:19:17.000 If they did some sort of very comprehensive examination of the Sahara Desert, like say, if technology advances to the point where they can do some really comprehensive underground scanning of that entire part of the continent, who fucking knows,
02:19:33.000 man?
02:19:33.000 Only 5% of the Sahara has been studied, as far as, say, with the use of LiDAR technology.
02:19:40.000 They're using it from space, and they keep finding new structures that are prehistoric.
02:19:43.000 They don't know who made them or when, and throughout the Sahara.
02:19:46.000 They use it from space?
02:19:46.000 Yeah.
02:19:47.000 They use LiDAR from space?
02:19:48.000 It's called archaeology from space, and they use satellites.
02:19:51.000 So this is what's interesting, is that they can use satellites with LiDAR that can penetrate, like, I might be butchering this, but I want to say 10 meters.
02:19:57.000 I could be off on that, but it's a substantial amount of depth.
02:20:02.000 From a satellite penetrating through dirt.
02:20:04.000 I'm like, who would have thought that could even exist?
02:20:07.000 Right.
02:20:07.000 It's pretty amazing.
02:20:08.000 It is.
02:20:09.000 We have good evidence that they didn't have that.
02:20:11.000 No, they probably didn't have satellites.
02:20:13.000 I mean, I guess their orbit would decay after a while.
02:20:16.000 Yeah, it'd fly back into it.
02:20:17.000 Yeah, because ours do.
02:20:18.000 You know, a couple things about Ganong Padang worth mentioning.
02:20:22.000 When they were excavating like mad, the president was of the same opinion that Dr. Nadi Wajawa wrote a book even like Plato was right and Atlantis is in Indonesia.
02:20:37.000 So the president of Java back then believed that that was the case, so he was throwing money at it.
02:20:43.000 When he lost his bid to be re-elected and somebody else took over, he was the one that shut everything down.
02:20:49.000 He's in more lockstep with the archaeologists and stuff, the mainstream guys.
02:20:53.000 So that's one of the reasons it was a changing of the guard is why all of it just stopped.
02:20:58.000 So one guy was into it and the next guy ain't.
02:21:00.000 Well, let me โ€“ okay.
02:21:02.000 Here we go.
02:21:03.000 You just opened up the window.
02:21:04.000 Here we go, Jimmy.
02:21:07.000 So the WF conspiracy โ€“ it is nothing more than a conspiracy theory.
02:21:11.000 I am not at all convinced that there's something here with them trying to suppress ancient history.
02:21:16.000 Let me be clear.
02:21:17.000 I think?
02:21:49.000 I'm not saying he's suppressing it.
02:22:02.000 Let me be clear.
02:22:02.000 I said it earlier.
02:22:03.000 They went from saying that there will be unlimited resources and funding to excavate Ganong Penang.
02:22:08.000 It stopped.
02:22:09.000 And as of right now, there's no plan and place to do it.
02:22:11.000 And I'm just sharing that the person who would make that decision or has the power to do so happens to be a global shaper.
02:22:19.000 Klaus Schwab, the former head of the World Economic Forum, I have a video of him gloating about how they've infiltrated government cabinets, the media, all over the world, and are enacting their initiatives.
02:22:30.000 With our young global leaders.
02:22:31.000 They've infiltrated the cabinets.
02:22:32.000 It's very good.
02:22:33.000 You can even see bugs.
02:22:34.000 Did you see the photo of him in the bathroom?
02:22:37.000 No, I would love to.
02:22:38.000 You didn't see?
02:22:38.000 No, please show us.
02:22:39.000 We have a photo of him in our bathroom here with the fucking crazy Darth Vader outfit on.
02:22:43.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
02:22:44.000 That was bizarre.
02:22:46.000 It was just the wackiest fucking outfit ever.
02:22:49.000 It's so on the nose.
02:22:50.000 I know.
02:22:51.000 If you're an evil supervillian.
02:22:52.000 He looks like a James Bond villain.
02:22:55.000 Yeah, more crazy than that.
02:22:57.000 Like, more crazy than a Bond...
02:22:58.000 See if you can find that photo.
02:22:59.000 Yeah.
02:22:59.000 More crazy than a Bond villain.
02:23:00.000 Like a Star Wars villain.
02:23:02.000 Yeah.
02:23:02.000 Like some...
02:23:03.000 He's a Sith Lord or something.
02:23:04.000 You don't have to be a crazy person to put that fucking thing on and go out in public unless it's a Halloween costume.
02:23:08.000 Yeah.
02:23:09.000 Like, it's a bizarre outfit for you to wear...
02:23:12.000 And if everyone's worried about these secret societies and people that are in control and pulling the strings of the world, what are they worried about?
02:23:20.000 They're worried about fucking crackpots that dress like this.
02:23:23.000 That's what they're worried about.
02:23:24.000 Eyes wide shut parties.
02:23:25.000 Like that kind of shit.
02:23:27.000 You got that photo?
02:23:28.000 It's fucking crazy!
02:23:30.000 That photo, right there.
02:23:32.000 That's the one we have in the bathroom.
02:23:33.000 Jesus Christ, yeah.
02:23:34.000 In front of the podium at the World Economic Forum.
02:23:36.000 Wow.
02:23:36.000 What is that fucking photo?
02:23:38.000 What is that outfit you're wearing, sir?
02:23:39.000 That looks like something from some, like, 1970s dystopian film.
02:23:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:23:44.000 100%.
02:23:45.000 Like, Metropolis or something.
02:23:46.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:23:47.000 Death Race 2000, the original one.
02:23:49.000 Like, what the fuck is that?
02:23:51.000 That outfit's so crazy.
02:23:53.000 Wow.
02:23:53.000 Imagine someone...
02:23:54.000 I think it was having to do with the event they were at, though.
02:23:57.000 He got an honorary doctorate.
02:23:58.000 This was at a university somewhere in Europe.
02:24:01.000 It's fucking crazy that that's what you wear there anyway.
02:24:03.000 Like, what are you doing?
02:24:04.000 You're dressing like a druid.
02:24:06.000 Well, they even got a magic card of him.
02:24:07.000 Look at that.
02:24:08.000 It's so weird, bro.
02:24:09.000 Look at that other outfit.
02:24:11.000 Look at that fucking outfit.
02:24:12.000 That's AI. Oh, AI generated.
02:24:14.000 Okay.
02:24:15.000 So when I look at Gobekli Tepe, involving my little WF conspiracy idea, it is a bit bizarre that that partnership with the Doge's group was literally announced at the annual World Economic Forum meeting in Davos.
02:24:28.000 And I also should share this, that I may have been banned from Turkey.
02:24:33.000 So this is hilarious.
02:24:35.000 So after my video came out, what's his name, Karul?
02:24:39.000 What's his name, Dr. Karul?
02:24:40.000 So the head of archaeology in Turkey...
02:24:44.000 I took great issue with my conspiracy theories on it and has โ€“ he was quoted in an article saying that I should be sanctioned and then he followed up with like I will be sanctioned.
02:24:55.000 And I'm like, well, how are you going to keep me out of Gobekli Tepe?
02:24:58.000 Have I been banned from Turkey?
02:24:59.000 Because American citizens don't need a visa to go into Turkey unless they're going to be there more than 90 days.
02:25:04.000 So there's โ€“ if I could, I could apply ahead of time.
02:25:07.000 Like in Egypt, you can apply for your tourism visa ahead of time and I know if I was rejected.
02:25:13.000 That's what he said, is that I'll be sanctioned.
02:25:14.000 He was referring to me, and I'm like, okay.
02:25:17.000 What does that mean?
02:25:18.000 Well, it means travel bans.
02:25:19.000 It means you're not going to let him in the country.
02:25:21.000 It means I go to the airport and get rejected at customs, potentially.
02:25:24.000 And that is possibly what would happen.
02:25:26.000 He said it will happen.
02:25:27.000 I don't know that it's happened.
02:25:30.000 Flights in Turkey are actually a little bit pricey, and I'm like, well, damn it.
02:25:33.000 I'm like, if I'm going to land there and get turned around, that would suck.
02:25:36.000 Well, you might be able to make a nice video about it.
02:25:38.000 That's true.
02:25:39.000 Oh, yeah.
02:25:39.000 Actually, yeah.
02:25:40.000 That's a video.
02:25:42.000 Sure.
02:25:42.000 I mean, it kind of helps you.
02:25:45.000 I'm over the target with Gobekli Tepe.
02:25:47.000 Or at least you're making them uncomfortable.
02:25:50.000 You're forcing them to consider why they have chosen this.
02:25:54.000 If it's just for economic reasons, which does make sense, if so many people are already going there, why should we spend more money?
02:25:59.000 I get Well, and it makes sense and it's the most likely explanation.
02:26:03.000 It's probably true.
02:26:04.000 But that means that then this is an issue of either mismanagement or incompetence because it is inexcusable that โ€“ because as of right now, their plan is that it will not be fully excavated.
02:26:17.000 It will not be fully excavated in any of our lifetimes.
02:26:21.000 And there could potentially be answers involving our ancient past at Gobekli Tepe, and it is entirely inexcusable that we wouldn't dig it up.
02:26:30.000 And I don't actually think it will take away from tourism by removing the mystery.
02:26:33.000 Half a million people a year are visiting it just because.
02:26:37.000 And if they dig up more of it, in my opinion, that's more reason to go there.
02:26:41.000 Right.
02:26:41.000 Well, what did you just show, Jamie?
02:26:43.000 I went to the article about the funding at Ganongodang.
02:26:47.000 Yes.
02:26:47.000 It does say that thing about unlimited funding, but it might have been also misinterpreted by translation.
02:26:54.000 It's coming from the Jakarta Post.
02:26:56.000 It talks about how the soldiers were using hose to excavate.
02:27:02.000 They didn't like that.
02:27:04.000 It mentions the first disbursement of $250,000 was put out.
02:27:08.000 Is this from 2014, this article?
02:27:09.000 It's the same article, because it shows the thing that says unlimited amount of research funding, but it says it was taken from other funding, and then it says that there's a lack of funding right below it.
02:27:21.000 Archaeologists at other sites bemoan a lack of funding.
02:27:23.000 Let me just say this.
02:27:24.000 My ass.
02:27:24.000 All they've got to do is drill a hole and stick a camera through it into the tube to figure out if it's a lava tube or something man-made.
02:27:30.000 This is not expensive.
02:27:31.000 It could get done for thousands of dollars, not millions of dollars.
02:27:36.000 And if it is a 27,000-year-old pyramidal structure, as Graham Hancock has proposed, the data โ€“ look, the data is not proven.
02:27:43.000 It's hotly debated.
02:27:45.000 But let me just make this crystal clear.
02:27:47.000 We don't know what it is.
02:27:48.000 It could potentially be the oldest ancient ruin on Earth.
02:27:53.000 And we're never going to know the answer until we go looking.
02:27:56.000 And it is entirely unacceptable that we're not doing it.
02:27:59.000 What is happening?
02:28:00.000 There's a thing to get, like, less conspiratorial but support it from a very real position.
02:28:07.000 There's a thing with science with their paradigms.
02:28:09.000 They've looked at it from a very long time.
02:28:10.000 With the origins of Earth sciences and history, they were expected to bear out the Bible, prove the Bible right.
02:28:17.000 Then evolution, and then Darwin, and then it was gradualism.
02:28:22.000 Prove the Bible wrong.
02:28:23.000 There is no major global flood.
02:28:25.000 And gradualism, they assume that everything happens slowly.
02:28:28.000 There's nothing catastrophic in the record.
02:28:30.000 And that lasted from the late 1700s, all the...
02:28:35.000 1800s, excuse me, all the fucking way up until 1980 when the KT dinosaur-killing meteor was accepted.
02:28:42.000 Before that, there was no such thing as punctuated equilibrium, which is what they call it now.
02:28:46.000 Where...
02:28:47.000 Which any kid could figure out is the way the fucking world works.
02:28:51.000 Slow erosion happens on the side of the bank, but sometimes there's a big flood that carves a big chunk of the bank.
02:28:56.000 I mean, this is no-brainer shit.
02:28:58.000 Life moves at a steady pace normally, and then every now and again something catastrophic happens.
02:29:02.000 So my point is that if they think that digging something up is going to change a paradigm that they're expected to maintain, they're not going to fucking dig it up.
02:29:11.000 The kind of opposition that they face to overturning paradigms, like the Clovis first thing, like when Flint was on here and he tried to play that one down.
02:29:21.000 Not only were careers ruined from that, but one thing you'll almost never hear mentioned was Clovis first was version two of this.
02:29:27.000 Before that, it was the Folsom point and Folsom first, and many careers were ruined by people that posited that the Americans were people before the Folsom culture.
02:29:36.000 Then they found the Clovis.
02:29:37.000 This is not some novel time of, well, there was a scientific debate and a few...
02:29:43.000 No, no, no.
02:29:43.000 This is standard operating procedure, the way it's always fucking been done.
02:29:47.000 So it's not a surprising thing that they're going to try to hide stuff.
02:29:50.000 It's not a surprising thing.
02:29:51.000 It's just human ego and control.
02:29:55.000 Humans always want to be the experts and they always want to be the one in control of the information.
02:30:01.000 Information that's new that's coming out counters their control and their expertise.
02:30:05.000 They reject it.
02:30:06.000 And it's just ego.
02:30:07.000 It's just ego.
02:30:08.000 It's just kind of messed up because...
02:30:10.000 I mean, I know scientists are people, but...
02:30:12.000 It should all be what we know now.
02:30:14.000 This is what we know now.
02:30:15.000 And when new information comes along, okay, now we're thinking about it in a different way.
02:30:19.000 But the problem is they've published books.
02:30:21.000 And these books, they've definitively given dates.
02:30:24.000 We now know.
02:30:26.000 We are sure that this...
02:30:28.000 What are your thoughts on the dating of the pyramids and how do they date the pyramids?
02:30:33.000 They date the pyramids based on whatever carbon that they could find in between the stones.
02:30:39.000 Obviously, you can't carbon date stones themselves.
02:30:41.000 So you have to use some sort of organic material that's around that.
02:30:45.000 The best dating is that the Great Pyramid is somewhere around 4,500 years ago.
02:30:50.000 That was from organic material taken between casing stones.
02:30:53.000 You could argue that the casing stones were restored because even the Romans restored parts of the Sphinx.
02:31:01.000 I don't know how old the Great Pyramid is, but if it was constructed 4,500 years ago, then our understanding of what was happening on the Giza Plateau at that time is vastly different than the people that were โ€“ if you look at any academic textbook, they show people wearing loincloths and barefoot constructing the pyramid.
02:31:18.000 And nah, that's โ€“ nah.
02:31:21.000 Well, even hieroglyphs that depict moving statues.
02:31:24.000 It's a bunch of guys with sandals pulling a sled.
02:31:26.000 So that depiction, which should be in my Ramiseum folder, Jamie, that one statue was only 58 metric tons.
02:31:36.000 Only?
02:31:37.000 Compared to the other big boys.
02:31:40.000 It's all crazy.
02:31:41.000 This is what they say.
02:31:42.000 They say, well, they pulled it on a sledge, which is like a wooden sled.
02:31:45.000 And I'm like, the Ramiseum statue is 15 times heavier than that other one.
02:31:51.000 Yeah, this is what they always show.
02:31:52.000 They always show these naked dudes.
02:31:54.000 Yeah, look at them.
02:31:55.000 Bare ass.
02:31:56.000 Heave ho.
02:31:58.000 Why are they all naked?
02:31:58.000 Just to be clear.
02:31:59.000 I know.
02:32:00.000 Because they want to show them that they're dumb and primitive.
02:32:02.000 We want the dude with the whip.
02:32:03.000 He's got some clothes on.
02:32:04.000 Look at that.
02:32:05.000 That guy's got clothes on.
02:32:06.000 But that's kind of been debunked, right?
02:32:08.000 Because one of the things they found is that when they studied the remains that were in the enclosures where the people that worked on the pyramid lived...
02:32:16.000 They're not slaves.
02:32:17.000 No, they were fed well.
02:32:18.000 Yeah, they were fed well and it seems like they were highly skilled.
02:32:22.000 They had to have been.
02:32:23.000 I mean, I've tried to suss โ€“ to me what's the most impressive thing about it is the accuracy of the pyramid to itself.
02:32:29.000 It's like a perfect square with like two inches of deviation at 756 feet per side.
02:32:34.000 That's like a tiny fraction of a percentage off.
02:32:36.000 You're like machine-age standards on a fucking gigantic fucking scale.
02:32:41.000 Right.
02:32:41.000 The only thing I could come up with was, and I have to test it, but like if you had a concave mirror, it creates a little circle of light like a magnifying glass does that will start a fire.
02:32:52.000 At a certain distance, it's going to be the same size no matter what.
02:32:56.000 So you could calibrate that and if you have to have everything exactly set up, but if you shot at a target and filled up a perfect circle, you could know it was exact range.
02:33:05.000 That kind of thing would work because you can't measure this with ropes.
02:33:08.000 You can't measure...
02:33:09.000 I mean, ropes sag and they're affected by humidity and stuff.
02:33:12.000 And again, it's two inches at 756 feet.
02:33:15.000 That's not...
02:33:17.000 Is this taking into account the casings that were removed?
02:33:20.000 Oh no, it's not.
02:33:21.000 This is just the base perimeter of the pyramid.
02:33:24.000 There's an outline around the pyramid where it was kind of scratched into the ground for where they think that they used water and stuff to do leveling.
02:33:33.000 And they generally measure around that, to my understanding.
02:33:37.000 And any deviation, even in millimeters, with each rock, as you get up to 2,300,000 stones to build the peak of the pyramid, any deviation on either side would fuck the whole thing up.
02:33:48.000 Oh, man.
02:33:49.000 It is virtually perfect.
02:33:51.000 Not quite perfect, but it is virtually perfect.
02:33:53.000 Well, it's made by humans, allegedly.
02:33:56.000 Or Anunnaki.
02:33:57.000 Anunnaki.
02:33:58.000 You know, the Anunnaki one is the most fun because I love those stories.
02:34:03.000 I love Sitchin's stuff.
02:34:05.000 It's just because it's the funnest possibility is that human beings were genetically engineered by a superior race that came here to mine gold.
02:34:14.000 I was telling Jim actually last night that archaeologists frequently refer to the Clovis hypothesis as elegant and I often tell him that this is actually Christian stuff is even more elegant.
02:34:24.000 It explains why we want gold and silver.
02:34:26.000 I mean, come on.
02:34:26.000 That's all around the entire world.
02:34:28.000 The gold one's the weird one, because you can't make any tools out of it, you can't make weapons out of it, and yet it was the most prized metal.
02:34:34.000 And it works really good when you get to a higher level of tech all of a sudden.
02:34:37.000 It's pretty useful, isn't it?
02:34:39.000 It's very useful.
02:34:39.000 And then there's also the idea of suspending particles in the atmosphere.
02:34:43.000 Like Chris talks about, yeah.
02:34:44.000 Right, which is what Bill Gates wants to do today, that fucking kook.
02:34:47.000 Hey, fuckface, there's a lot of people living here.
02:34:50.000 You don't get to choose when the shades get put on the earth because you have this goofy climate change narrative.
02:34:55.000 I don't believe you.
02:34:57.000 I don't like that you're even talking about doing this.
02:35:01.000 How about a global vote as whether or not this one asshole created Windows 95 gets to do this.
02:35:06.000 He didn't create anything.
02:35:07.000 He bought the patent off, that IBM guy.
02:35:10.000 I love putting that on blast because it's like, I think he has...
02:35:13.000 I think he suffers from an inferiority complex.
02:35:15.000 I think that he's jealous of Elon Musk and others.
02:35:18.000 I think he...
02:35:19.000 Well, he famously has shorted Tesla.
02:35:22.000 Yeah, and he makes him look like a massive douche.
02:35:24.000 I think that he is...
02:35:26.000 Look, he was once the king, the richest man on earth, and now he's not, and I think that that's all he wants.
02:35:31.000 Again, power, human power and ego, and especially people that have enormous resources and control over things.
02:35:37.000 They don't want to relinquish that grip.
02:35:39.000 Yep.
02:35:40.000 Well, yeah.
02:35:40.000 It's like, bro, he should be living in an all-inclusive riding jet skis.
02:35:42.000 You made it, brother.
02:35:43.000 You should be living like Jeff Bezos.
02:35:45.000 Right.
02:35:46.000 Yeah.
02:35:48.000 Let's go.
02:35:49.000 At least be happy.
02:35:50.000 That's what I want out of my billionaires.
02:35:51.000 I want Jeff Bezos.
02:35:52.000 When people criticize him, I'm like, what are you talking about?
02:35:54.000 He's living the dream.
02:35:55.000 All of a sudden, he's jacked.
02:35:57.000 He has a super hot girlfriend.
02:35:58.000 He's got a giant yacht.
02:36:02.000 I can't figure out why he runs the Washington Post, because he owns the Washington Post?
02:36:08.000 Well, he's changed the shit out of it.
02:36:09.000 Has he?
02:36:10.000 Yeah, there's a big, big to-do about it, because he released this article that we have to, or released a story, rather.
02:36:15.000 He wrote a piece essentially saying that you have to take divergent viewpoints.
02:36:21.000 You have to take a bunch of different perspectives.
02:36:23.000 We can't just be this left-wing echo chamber, and it's the reason why the business is faltering.
02:36:28.000 I mean, all of these I was just reading something about CNN's ratings and MSNBC's ratings post-election.
02:36:38.000 They've crashed.
02:36:39.000 All these left-wing kooks on YouTube are hemorrhaging subscribers, where people go, you guys are out of touch, you're not accurate, you're delusional.
02:36:49.000 And people are speaking with their subscriptions, and they're speaking with their purchasing of the Washington Post, and their purchasing of the New York Times.
02:36:56.000 The New York Times just debunked, in the most insane way, debunked RFK Jr.'s assertion that the ingredients in Froot Loops are different in Canada than they are in the United States.
02:37:09.000 They fact-checked it while saying he was accurate.
02:37:14.000 So their fact check, it's so dumb when you see the fact, I tweeted it.
02:37:20.000 The fact check is so dumb because the fact check says it's not correct, they have the same ingredients, except for these harmful chemicals.
02:37:30.000 Look at this.
02:37:30.000 Mr. Kennedy has singled out Fruit Loops as an example of a product with too many artificial ingredients, questioning why the Canadian version has fewer than the U.S. version.
02:37:39.000 But he was wrong.
02:37:41.000 The ingredient list is roughly the same, although Canada's has natural colorings made from blueberries and carrots, while the U.S. product contains red dye 40, yellow 5, and blue 1, as well as Butylated hydroxytulin,
02:37:58.000 or BHT, a lab-made chemical that is used for freshness according to the ingredient label that is the fucking dangerous chemicals that are banned in Canada that we're trying to get rid of in America.
02:38:10.000 So they're literally saying he was wrong but he was right.
02:38:14.000 Yeah, that made my brain hurt just reading that.
02:38:17.000 That's the New York fucking Times!
02:38:21.000 Well, but PewDiePie hadn't dressed like a Nazi for a while, so they didn't have anything to talk about, right?
02:38:24.000 I don't know what that's about.
02:38:25.000 Oh, sorry.
02:38:26.000 But this is what the New York Times is doing.
02:38:29.000 So, of course, you're gonna hemorrhage subscribers.
02:38:32.000 Of course.
02:38:33.000 You're crazy.
02:38:34.000 You're saying something that's nuts.
02:38:36.000 And also, what is your motivation?
02:38:40.000 What's your motivation for removing potentially harmful and toxic chemicals?
02:38:46.000 If someone is trying to do that for the greater health of the population, if we're saying that these things have been eliminated in other countries because they've been proven to be dangerous, what is your motivation for saying he was wrong?
02:39:01.000 Money.
02:39:01.000 Well, what else could it be?
02:39:04.000 Clearly, Santo, brother.
02:39:06.000 Ideology, you know, left-wing rejection of RFK Jr., because now he's connected to Trump, which is connected to Nazis.
02:39:13.000 It's like you go down this fucking weird rabbit hole with these people, and you're like, what are you trying to do?
02:39:19.000 Are you trying to remove all leftover credibility?
02:39:23.000 Are you trying to eliminate, because you lost so much credibility.
02:39:26.000 Are you trying to kill it all?
02:39:28.000 Are you secretly working for the Chinese?
02:39:31.000 What are you doing?
02:39:31.000 They're all in.
02:39:32.000 What are you doing?
02:39:33.000 It's probably backed by Monsanto or something, because if you look at, like, these serials...
02:39:36.000 That is a crazy statement.
02:39:38.000 To think that the media was once called the fourth estate in this country is mind-boggling, honestly.
02:39:43.000 To think that we used to consider them the fourth estate of government, that it was like this...
02:39:47.000 Our father's generation, that's what they considered Ted Koppel, man.
02:39:51.000 Fucking...
02:39:52.000 Well, what I'm hoping is that what Jeff Bezos has said...
02:39:55.000 About the Washington Post, and I know what CNN is considering doing, and they've made some sort of a trend towards a more objective form of journalism.
02:40:02.000 But they're still compromised by the sponsors.
02:40:06.000 They're still compromised by the advertisers.
02:40:08.000 They're so compromised that I don't know if they can ever get to where they really need to be to compete with actual, objective, real journalists that are independent.
02:40:19.000 Because I don't think they can.
02:40:21.000 So it's kind of crazy.
02:40:23.000 It's like they're digging their own grave every day.
02:40:25.000 And then they're lashing out at all the other people that aren't digging their own grave.
02:40:29.000 It's like, you guys are so crazy.
02:40:32.000 They're doing it to themselves.
02:40:33.000 And now it's like, what is it, citizen journalists?
02:40:36.000 How did Elon Musk put it?
02:40:37.000 It's like, you are now the journalist.
02:40:39.000 I'm misquoting him.
02:40:40.000 X is mainstream media now.
02:40:42.000 That is the mainstream media.
02:40:43.000 That's where most people are getting their news now.
02:40:45.000 The views speak for itself, you know?
02:40:47.000 It's not just the views, it's the community notes.
02:40:50.000 The fact that you can actually fact check these things.
02:40:52.000 And then you have all these brilliant people that are participating in this live debate in real time online about what's real and what's not.
02:41:00.000 And you're finding, specifically when they found the Twitter files, they're like, Jesus Christ, the FBI is involved in this?
02:41:09.000 Like, what the fuck is going on?
02:41:11.000 Yeah.
02:41:12.000 This is so crazy.
02:41:13.000 The FBI is involved in deciding what's real and what's not on Twitter?
02:41:17.000 Unreal.
02:41:18.000 And you're banning journalists?
02:41:21.000 You're banning scientists?
02:41:23.000 Like, this is really crazy.
02:41:25.000 Yeah, and it's bad for society.
02:41:27.000 It's terrible.
02:41:28.000 It's caused irreparable harm with misinformation.
02:41:30.000 But it's not.
02:41:31.000 So it's bad initially, but then ultimately it's good.
02:41:35.000 Because ultimately, we learn who you can and can't trust.
02:41:39.000 And you say, well, who's just honest and accurate?
02:41:41.000 Because there's a lot of money in being honest and accurate.
02:41:43.000 You know, this is what's crazy.
02:41:45.000 Like, all these independent journalists are doing really well.
02:41:48.000 Well, because they don't have a fucking giant building in Atlanta that's filled with a thousand workers, right?
02:41:52.000 So they don't have the overhead for terrible ratings.
02:41:56.000 Terrible ratings and a massive overhead.
02:41:58.000 Like, you're kind of fucked!
02:41:59.000 So it's great for us That it leads to the rise of these guys like Matt Taibbi that used to be a part of the system and now are independent.
02:42:07.000 Glenn Greenwald.
02:42:08.000 All these type of people.
02:42:09.000 Michael Schellenberger.
02:42:10.000 People that you can actually trust.
02:42:11.000 They're going to tell you the truth because there's actually money in telling the truth.
02:42:15.000 It's a great business model.
02:42:17.000 It's course corrected and you're proof of it and all these other people, whether it's Tucker Carlson and many, many others.
02:42:24.000 There is a course correction and the problem is they've dug their heels in so much and they'll write articles like that New York Times article that is so crazy.
02:42:35.000 They updated it.
02:42:36.000 Oh, congratulations.
02:42:37.000 They changed the wording a little bit.
02:42:39.000 Here's what it looked like.
02:42:42.000 They changed it.
02:42:43.000 They got busted.
02:42:44.000 Because it got like 10 million views on X in a day.
02:42:48.000 They got blasted.
02:42:49.000 It got blasted everywhere.
02:42:51.000 That kind of double thing's insane.
02:42:53.000 So this is what they said here.
02:42:54.000 Why do we have fruitless in this country that have 18 or 19 ingredients?
02:42:56.000 You go to Canada as two or three, Mr. Kennedy asked.
02:42:58.000 He was wrong on the ingredient count.
02:43:00.000 They are roughly the same.
02:43:02.000 Yeah, that's what they changed.
02:43:04.000 Oh, but they're still missing the whole fucking point.
02:43:08.000 So the ingredient count is roughly the same.
02:43:12.000 So there's still 19 ingredients in the Canadian version, but it's all just like sugar and wheat and like carrot dye and blueberry dye and whatever the fuck else they have.
02:43:22.000 They found a factual error that they could pull out instead of addressing the meat of what he was saying.
02:43:26.000 The meat of what he was saying is that all these things, these dyes, are all illegal in Canada.
02:43:32.000 And also illegal in other countries.
02:43:34.000 It's poison.
02:43:35.000 Cereal is one of the worst things you can consume.
02:43:37.000 But it's so delicious.
02:43:39.000 But I wonder if it's just as delicious in Canada, which is crazy.
02:43:42.000 I don't need it to be flavored or colored by fucking dye when you can get it from beets or whatever.
02:43:49.000 Yeah, the dye thing's crazy.
02:43:51.000 The red dye 40 is actually kind of a big problem.
02:43:54.000 There's a lot of kids that have, like, ADD kind of symptoms from red dye 40. Well, I mean, if you're left alone to your own devices and you're a child like I was, you would just fucking pour a bowl out of a bowl of that cereal until you're ready to explode.
02:44:09.000 You know, I would eat fucking Captain Crunch until I had a fucking heart attack.
02:44:13.000 Lucky Charms.
02:44:14.000 Lucky Charms eating just the marshmallows.
02:44:16.000 Oh, yeah.
02:44:17.000 This is bullshit.
02:44:18.000 Where's the marshmallows?
02:44:19.000 The Saturday morning cartoons.
02:44:21.000 Oh, yeah.
02:44:21.000 Oh, my God.
02:44:22.000 Yeah, you're getting cracked out to Bullwinkle.
02:44:24.000 Oh, yeah.
02:44:25.000 And you're just eating bowls of sugar.
02:44:26.000 That sugar high.
02:44:27.000 Yeah, I mean, we didn't even know that sugar was bad for you because, again, another fucking conspiracy that turned out to be true.
02:44:33.000 The scientists got bribed by the sugar industry to push all the blame on saturated fat.
02:44:39.000 That's why everybody started using margarine and all this stupid shit.
02:44:43.000 Oh, eat some plastic.
02:44:44.000 I love those.
02:44:45.000 You know, if you leave margarine out, rats don't even eat it?
02:44:48.000 I was about to say that.
02:44:49.000 You'll see ants that will be eating natural butter, but they won't touch margarine.
02:44:52.000 Yeah, they eat each other.
02:44:53.000 They don't fuck with margarine.
02:44:55.000 Something to be said for that.
02:44:56.000 It's glue.
02:44:57.000 It's chemical.
02:44:58.000 It's industrial oil.
02:45:00.000 It's really weird.
02:45:01.000 It used to be used for engine lubricant.
02:45:03.000 We're like, whoa, feels great on toast.
02:45:07.000 We're so stupid.
02:45:09.000 We're so fucking stupid.
02:45:11.000 It's wild when you think about it.
02:45:12.000 The things that we will do, like the Milligram experiment I mentioned before, the experiment they did back after everybody was wondering here in the States why the Nazis were able to convince, rank-and-file normal people to do fucked-up stuff.
02:45:24.000 So they got guys in a lab coat, and they had an actor pretend he was getting shocked as a test subject, but the real test subject was the guy they had, quote-unquote, shocking that guy.
02:45:34.000 And the guy in the lab coat would keep telling him to do it more, and they found about 30% of the people, if they were told, would shock him all the way up to killing the guy.
02:45:41.000 And that kind of appeal to authority, that kind of worshipping of authority has really...
02:45:48.000 They're gutting it right now and they're paying the price.
02:45:51.000 Well, it's just dangerous because authority has a massive responsibility to be accurate.
02:45:56.000 And with that comes humility and the understanding that we don't know everything.
02:46:00.000 It's not possible, which is why we're constantly studying things.
02:46:03.000 And this need to be accurate and need to be correct and need to be the only one who has access to this information to educate people is preposterous.
02:46:14.000 It's really crazy, especially when it comes to something like ancient history, which is why your channel is so popular and your channel and Graham Hancock's shows are so popular and why these people that want to hold on to that throne are so adamant about labeling them with every possible horrible pejorative.
02:46:32.000 Yeah.
02:46:32.000 Well, yeah, that's a really easy way to get them out.
02:46:36.000 Like I said, they're losing authority right now, like we're talking about.
02:46:39.000 We're talking about mainstream media, or legacy media, I guess you could call it, falling apart and stuff.
02:46:44.000 What I mentioned about PewDiePie earlier, if you remember about 10 years ago, the Adpocalypse, that was, I think it was actually a Wall Street Journal article, but it was a legacy media that wrote about PewDiePie, and they fucking, like, threw him under the bus.
02:46:55.000 They, like, misconstrued him and everything else, and the effects were very real.
02:46:57.000 It slapped YouTube content creators across the board.
02:47:00.000 If you look up Adpocalypse, You can read all about it.
02:47:03.000 Well, they've actually dropped some of the bans on X now, which is great.
02:47:08.000 Yeah.
02:47:08.000 Which is, I think, a sign of the culture shifting also after the election.
02:47:13.000 There's a lot of...
02:47:14.000 They're realizing that there's actually a lot of money in advertising there.
02:47:17.000 Like, what are you, fucking retarded?
02:47:18.000 Right.
02:47:19.000 Everybody's there.
02:47:20.000 It's the number one platform on earth for people discussing things.
02:47:23.000 It's the future.
02:47:24.000 Why wouldn't you advertise there?
02:47:25.000 Because you're trying to bleed that guy out.
02:47:27.000 But you fucked with the wrong dude.
02:47:29.000 Yeah.
02:47:29.000 He's crazy.
02:47:30.000 He's got more money than anybody.
02:47:32.000 And he's like, I don't care.
02:47:33.000 I'm buying it.
02:47:34.000 He bought it for twice what it's worth.
02:47:35.000 And they're like, Twitter has lost $20 billion in value.
02:47:39.000 He's a terrible businessman.
02:47:40.000 No!
02:47:40.000 He overpaid.
02:47:42.000 He overpaid substantially to try to save free speech.
02:47:45.000 Yeah, this was what you would call an activist investment.
02:47:49.000 Well, he's just a rare cat who's willing to do something like that.
02:47:53.000 There's not a lot of people that are willing to, like, lose billions on something.
02:47:56.000 But when you got 200 billion, you're like, let's fucking shift this apple cart.
02:48:01.000 I'm so glad he's on the right side of history.
02:48:02.000 That guy's a hero.
02:48:03.000 He's a living hero, and X is the future.
02:48:05.000 That is going to be the biggest platform on Earth.
02:48:07.000 That's his goal, right?
02:48:08.000 Yeah.
02:48:08.000 Well, it certainly already is and probably will grow.
02:48:12.000 And, you know, they keep saying people are going to Blue Sky.
02:48:14.000 Do you know if you go to Blue Sky and you type, there's only two genders, you're banned instantly?
02:48:18.000 Yes.
02:48:18.000 I saw this recently.
02:48:19.000 Yeah, Blue Sky is just the newest echo chamber of the old Twitter.
02:48:23.000 There's all kinds of people.
02:48:24.000 I saw these Stephen King dorks.
02:48:25.000 Yep.
02:48:25.000 They're going to go over there and let their brains rot out in an echo chamber.
02:48:28.000 I've been picking on all of my friends in the real world that were laughing at, I forget the name of the site, Rumble, when everybody was like, oh, the right-wingers are going to Rumble.
02:48:39.000 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
02:48:39.000 Now it's like all you guys are running the blue sky.
02:48:41.000 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
02:48:42.000 Isn't it fucking funny how that works?
02:48:44.000 Yeah.
02:48:45.000 Shout out to Rumble.
02:48:46.000 Echo chamber.
02:48:46.000 Rumble's been so good to me.
02:48:48.000 Let me give Chris Pavlovsky a shout-out, the CEO of Rumble.
02:48:51.000 I had the pleasure of meeting him, and they've been treating me real good.
02:48:54.000 Rumble's great.
02:48:55.000 Yeah, they're fantastic.
02:48:56.000 Full-on free speech, whether you're on the left or the right, whatever it is.
02:49:00.000 Anything I want.
02:49:01.000 Anything I want within, as long as it's not violence or something like that.
02:49:04.000 Of course.
02:49:04.000 Yeah, so I recommend people.
02:49:05.000 Everything that's legal.
02:49:06.000 Which is what it's supposed to be.
02:49:08.000 And that's what the First Amendment is supposed to apply to.
02:49:10.000 And this is one of the great things about this administration that's coming in is that Donald Trump wants to apply the First Amendment to all these sites.
02:49:17.000 He wants to stop all this big tech banning, which is, by the way, was terrible for him in 2020. I mean it really โ€“ it's election interference.
02:49:27.000 It truly is because you're eliminating one complete side of the argument.
02:49:32.000 It's supposed to be one side thinks this, the other side thinks that.
02:49:37.000 They get together and discuss it and you as the person outside of it gets to see who makes a more compelling argument.
02:49:44.000 And the wonderful thing about community notes is you get to see whether or not someone's bullshitting.
02:49:49.000 So let's find out what's right and what's wrong, what's true, what's not.
02:49:53.000 That's what it's supposed to be.
02:49:55.000 But the problem with that is then you don't really have control of the election.
02:49:58.000 And that's what they found out in 2024. They don't have control of it anymore.
02:50:03.000 And you can get Beyonce and pay her $10 million.
02:50:05.000 It doesn't fucking work.
02:50:06.000 It doesn't work anymore.
02:50:07.000 No one cares.
02:50:08.000 No one believes them.
02:50:09.000 They don't trust them.
02:50:09.000 They make terrible life choices.
02:50:11.000 And you're like, well, clearly you're not a person I'm going to listen to when it comes to who's going to run the fucking world, Taylor Swift.
02:50:17.000 Shut the fuck up.
02:50:18.000 This is crazy, Eminem.
02:50:19.000 What are you talking about?
02:50:21.000 How much have you locked?
02:50:21.000 I mean, I want to sit Eminem down with like a political scholar.
02:50:25.000 And like, tell me what you know about the invasion of Ukraine.
02:50:27.000 What do you know about the coup in 2014?
02:50:29.000 What do you know about NATO moving weapons closer and closer?
02:50:32.000 What do you know about the violation of the treaty that we have?
02:50:34.000 What the fuck are you doing, man?
02:50:36.000 You shouldn't be doing this.
02:50:38.000 This is not the thing for you to be doing here.
02:50:41.000 These people have no idea what they're talking about.
02:50:43.000 They're all puppets.
02:50:44.000 They're people that don't do any research on their own and they're just told what to think or they're compromised.
02:50:49.000 Well, I think they were getting paid.
02:50:51.000 And I think that's what's even weirder is that you're allowed to pay people to endorse you for president, which is crazy.
02:50:57.000 Crazy!
02:50:58.000 Yeah, Oprah, two and a half million.
02:50:59.000 Not a million.
02:51:00.000 They thought, now it's two and a half million.
02:51:01.000 I sent that to Jamie.
02:51:02.000 But that seems to be like production costs would seem at least slightly elevated for an event.
02:51:07.000 But the weird one was like the Beyonce one.
02:51:10.000 If it's true, and you know, there's a lot of sites reporting it as it is true, but we tried to look.
02:51:15.000 Jamie, look, it's hard to find what's true and what's not true.
02:51:18.000 Because there's a lot of money that was paid to staff, but it's like unclear what that means.
02:51:24.000 And then it's unclear where they burned all the money.
02:51:28.000 And then there's also the money that went to these activist groups.
02:51:31.000 And we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars they paid to people to support this administration, which is kind of supposed to be the other way around.
02:51:41.000 Aren't these groups supposed to be paying money to prop up the campaign because the campaign believes in them?
02:51:46.000 No, you're paying these activist groups to support you, which is just...
02:51:52.000 Crazy.
02:51:52.000 Also, it didn't work.
02:51:54.000 It didn't work at all.
02:51:55.000 You went through a billion plus dollars in three months.
02:51:59.000 This is so crazy.
02:52:00.000 And you're in debt.
02:52:02.000 And I think a lot of people made some money in the process.
02:52:04.000 That money went somewhere.
02:52:05.000 Where is it now?
02:52:06.000 That's part of the problem with climate change.
02:52:08.000 That's part of the problem with everything is that it's profitable to spit out a narrative.
02:52:13.000 And that there's a lot of money being moved around.
02:52:15.000 And this is money in politics.
02:52:17.000 And as much as we can get that out...
02:52:19.000 We need to.
02:52:20.000 And I think one of the most important things about getting that out is this whole thing about pharmaceutical drug companies being able to advertise, which changed in the 1990s.
02:52:29.000 We have to recognize that before the 1990s, pharmaceutical drugs could not advertise on TV. And guess what?
02:52:36.000 We were taken way less and we were way healthier.
02:52:40.000 So this is not good, folks.
02:52:42.000 This is not good.
02:52:43.000 And other than Ozempic, which is at least curbing obesity to a certain extent, what are these drugs that are doing good?
02:52:51.000 If you look at the overall health of people, it's declining.
02:52:56.000 Obesity is rising.
02:52:58.000 Heart attacks are rising.
02:53:00.000 Strokes are rising.
02:53:01.000 All this shit is bad.
02:53:03.000 We're not moving in the right direction.
02:53:05.000 And yet there's a tremendous resistance for change.
02:53:08.000 But it's funny to me that they would spend so much money on this election when, I mean, it's kind of clear that When one person's platform is do this, this, this, this, and this, the other person's platform is not him?
02:53:21.000 I mean, that's like riding somebody else's coattails.
02:53:26.000 Deliberately.
02:53:26.000 She came in with the platform.
02:53:30.000 I'm not Trump.
02:53:31.000 So, okay, well, that's great.
02:53:33.000 But, I mean, once people have pierced through the veil of Trump's going to make everything illegal and put everybody that's not white into camps and shit, once they've got past that, what do you have?
02:53:42.000 Well, it's also...
02:53:43.000 If you're going to develop a real platform, you're going to run for president, I would think you would want to do that over a long period of time and be very careful about...
02:53:54.000 Treat it like a defense attorney.
02:53:56.000 If you were prosecuting this as a case, you would want to have all of your facts that show that you're correct and have all of your arguments, and you would want to have mock arguments.
02:54:06.000 If someone comes to you and says, well, what about this, this, and this?
02:54:09.000 That's not the case, and this is why that's not the case.
02:54:11.000 You would want to have all your ducks in a row.
02:54:13.000 To me, it's like a fighter that takes a last-minute fight, and they've been sitting around drinking beer, and they haven't gone through a 10-week camp.
02:54:21.000 Like, don't do it.
02:54:22.000 Don't do it.
02:54:22.000 You're not ready for this.
02:54:24.000 And if your only strategy is just like a wild punch, which is basically, he's a liar.
02:54:30.000 Meanwhile, you're lying about him every fucking day.
02:54:32.000 The Russia collusion shit, the very fine people shit, all the thing about taking Liz Cheney and executing her.
02:54:44.000 That's all lies.
02:54:45.000 You guys are just lying.
02:54:47.000 And you're saying he's a liar, but yet you're lying all the time and you're doing it like it's 1995 and there's no social media.
02:54:55.000 But you can't do that anymore, especially when the people that are paying attention to the podcast, well, guess what?
02:55:00.000 Podcasts are a hundred times bigger than anything you guys have.
02:55:04.000 And people are listening to that and they know you're full of shit and then your numbers decline even further.
02:55:09.000 So I think they were saying that CNN โ€“ how much is CNN down?
02:55:14.000 Because I was seeing this on Twitter and it's hard to know whether or not it's hyperbole or whether or not it's fact.
02:55:20.000 But they were saying that CNN's ratings are down like 80 percent of their peak.
02:55:24.000 And MSNBC is some other preposterous number, and they're both on the chopping block.
02:55:29.000 CNN is talking about mass layoffs of talent because nobody believes them anymore.
02:55:33.000 So it's counterproductive for you to use the same voices, which is why they got rid of Brian Stelter, and then they brought him back.
02:55:41.000 Which was so odd.
02:55:42.000 I'm like, you know, I'm looking forward to- How much talent is missing?
02:55:46.000 I mean, they don't have any talent.
02:55:48.000 They're all going out of business.
02:55:49.000 They're going to have to rebrand.
02:55:50.000 They're going to have to get entire new management.
02:55:52.000 I'll never watch those programs ever again, those networks.
02:55:55.000 Literally never.
02:55:55.000 They're dead to me now.
02:55:56.000 It's propaganda.
02:55:57.000 At least a percentage of it is propaganda.
02:56:00.000 That's unacceptable.
02:56:01.000 It's unacceptable if you're the voice of the news in the world.
02:56:04.000 It's unacceptable for you to have a large percentage of what you're saying to be completely full of shit.
02:56:10.000 You know, it's funny, you can see the same pattern of attack that they throw at Trump being used against Tulsi Gabbard the last time around when she fucking nailed Kamala in the debate, and she was just like, you can stand here and say all cops are bad, but you got hundreds of thousands of people in jail and prison.
02:56:26.000 Leftist viewers deal, NBC, CNN, a Trump slump ratings crash.
02:56:30.000 Here's why.
02:56:31.000 So what's the numbers?
02:56:33.000 What does it say?
02:56:34.000 The Rachel Maddow Show, for example, easily MSNBC's top-rated program, though it only airs once a week, drew just 1.3 million viewers on November 10th.
02:56:43.000 Five days after the election, a drop of 1 million viewers from the month before.
02:56:47.000 In the key 25 to 54 demographic, the advertisers most covet, Maddow's numbers mark the smallest audience since her show has seen since April of 2022. And she's the number one show.
02:57:00.000 Which is like, you know...
02:57:02.000 If I only got a million people watching the show, I'd be so pissed.
02:57:06.000 Hannity nearly quadrupled her with 420,000 views to her meager 109,000.
02:57:12.000 She got 109,000 people in the 25 to 54. So it's a bunch of old cat ladies.
02:57:18.000 And airports.
02:57:19.000 Yeah, and airports, right.
02:57:21.000 Outside of Maddow, MSNBC has seen an unprecedented plunge.
02:57:25.000 This is really bad news.
02:57:27.000 And what is that?
02:57:28.000 For example, on Tuesday, November 11th, the week after the elections, MSNBC attracted its lowest 25 to 54 demo ratings in 23 years.
02:57:38.000 Over on CNN, the demo number was the lowest it has been since June 27, 2000, when Bill Clinton was president.
02:57:46.000 For the overall week of November 6th through 13th, Fox News averaged 2.23 billion views while MSNBC attracted a paltry 550,000 and CNN just 399,000.
02:57:58.000 Think about how much money is being pumped into CNN. So go scroll back up a little bit.
02:58:03.000 In fact, Fox News saw its viewership jump by 38% overall since November 5th after dominating election night by topping all networks, drawing more than 10 million viewers.
02:58:13.000 It's so bad that MSNBC's Joe Scarborough and Mika, how do you say her name, crawled to Mar-a-Lago on Friday to kiss Trump's ring, drawing scorn for their utter shamelessness after years of on-air attacks.
02:58:28.000 You know, real quick, let me just, you know what they're not including is that on Rumble, Dan Bongino and Stephen Crowder had the number one and number two ratings on all of election night.
02:58:38.000 So they're not, they're just mentioning mainstream networks.
02:58:41.000 They're leaving out the fact that- What did Dan Bongino have?
02:58:44.000 He had over half a million real-time viewers live and same with Stephen Crowder.
02:58:49.000 They were very comparable.
02:58:50.000 They were the number one and number two platforms in the world.
02:58:54.000 Really?
02:58:55.000 Yes.
02:58:55.000 So what did CNN have at that night?
02:58:57.000 I'm not entirely sure, but it was way less.
02:59:00.000 That's crazy.
02:59:00.000 It was way less.
02:59:01.000 Yeah?
02:59:02.000 That can't be.
02:59:02.000 Look it up!
02:59:03.000 I would agree that online they probably had the highest, but to compare the world watching CNN and Fox News and MSNBC that night was less than 500,000.
02:59:12.000 Maybe it's online streaming I'm referring to.
02:59:14.000 It must be, because didn't it just say Fox News had the highest ratings?
02:59:18.000 There were 5.5 million?
02:59:19.000 This doesn't have anything to do with online.
02:59:20.000 That's even saying the 25 to 54-year-olds could just be people.
02:59:23.000 They're like, why would I turn on the TV? I was watching online.
02:59:25.000 So they dominated it online.
02:59:27.000 Okay.
02:59:27.000 Okay.
02:59:28.000 So either way, this is what happened after 2016 as well, you know?
02:59:33.000 Or after 2020 rather.
02:59:35.000 Once he's out of office, you can't complain about Trump anymore, your ratings crash.
02:59:39.000 Like your entire business is operated on fear.
02:59:43.000 It's like, oh, the orange man.
02:59:44.000 And hatred.
02:59:45.000 I mean, let's be real.
02:59:45.000 There's a lot of people just tune in just to get angry.
02:59:47.000 I tune in to Joy Reid just to laugh.
02:59:50.000 I like to get blazed and watch that lady.
02:59:52.000 Like, what the fuck are you saying?
02:59:54.000 She spent an entire part of her program comparing Trump to Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini.
03:00:02.000 And MSNBC compared the rally in Madison Square Garden to the Nazi rally from the 1930s.
03:00:09.000 I performed in Madison Square Garden, so that must have made me a Nazi as well.
03:00:15.000 When I had a show there, I was telling jokes.
03:00:18.000 And you just had a guy on your show talking about the swastika on five continents around the world 10,000 years ago.
03:00:23.000 Fucking Nazi stuff.
03:00:24.000 And then I defended the Martyr Maid guy.
03:00:26.000 Let me just say this.
03:00:27.000 I defended that guy, so that's more Nazi.
03:00:28.000 I encourage everyone to go watch Ancient Apocalypse, Graham Hancock's on Netflix.
03:00:34.000 Think for yourself.
03:00:35.000 But one last thing to mention about that is that even John Hoops had compared Ancient Apocalypse, he associated it with Sandy Hook.
03:00:42.000 I am not kidding.
03:00:43.000 This was, what, a week ago?
03:00:45.000 Two weeks ago?
03:00:46.000 Disgusting.
03:00:47.000 He's talking about...
03:00:48.000 Archaeology is a canary in the coal mine, and you can tell that because you see this horrible thing happened before 9-11, and therefore they're connected.
03:00:56.000 And Sandy Hook happened right around the same time as the 2012 thing.
03:01:00.000 Ergo, it's just like, dude...
03:01:01.000 Puke!
03:01:03.000 You know, Alex Jones could give you some advice here, buddy.
03:01:05.000 You're going to get fucking sued.
03:01:06.000 Shut your mouth about Sandy Hook, man.
03:01:08.000 Come on.
03:01:08.000 What the hell's wrong with you?
03:01:09.000 It's all the same thing that they do.
03:01:11.000 It's the same thing Flint Devil did, you know, connecting it to white supremacy.
03:01:15.000 Atlantis.
03:01:16.000 Oh, Atlantis.
03:01:17.000 It's really a funny...
03:01:18.000 Oh, sorry.
03:01:19.000 We're at three hours plus in, but I would feel like we cheated the world if we didn't talk.
03:01:24.000 About the reshot structure.
03:01:25.000 Let's do it.
03:01:26.000 I love your video and I saw...
03:01:30.000 I don't understand Randall's reluctance to accept this as a possibility.
03:01:37.000 It's very fascinating because there's so many details and your video that details the reshot structure which is incredibly strange.
03:01:48.000 Structure.
03:01:48.000 If it's not man-made and if it wasn't at one point in time, it's some sort of a structure that was made by human beings.
03:01:56.000 It doesn't need to be.
03:01:57.000 So this is one of the things that Randall says, well, it's a natural feature, so it can't be Atlantis.
03:02:01.000 I'm like, well, who built Atlantis?
03:02:02.000 He said it was the god Poseidon.
03:02:04.000 Well, was Poseidon an actual individual?
03:02:07.000 Because if you look at the ancient Greek translation of Poseidon, it's Lord of the Earth, which I think is a modern-day translation for Mother Nature.
03:02:14.000 And humans have built on natural geological features throughout history.
03:02:18.000 If you were to bring up the Rishat structure from space, it's like no other place on Earth.
03:02:22.000 It is a mysterious site.
03:02:24.000 The consensus is that it's volcanic in nature and it's a collapsed volcano.
03:02:30.000 Volcanic dome.
03:02:30.000 But it doesn't match anything else anywhere else on Earth as far as volcanic domes go.
03:02:35.000 It matches more than a dozen similarities of the most โ€“ let me say this โ€“ the most consequential similarities to what Plato had described as a lost ancient city of Atlantis.
03:02:44.000 And it's made up of concentric circles.
03:02:46.000 If it had water, it โ€“ It specifically matches three of water and two of land.
03:02:51.000 It's made up of red, black, white color stones.
03:02:53.000 There's an abundance of gold in Mauritania.
03:02:55.000 Elephants, which were described to being on Atlantis.
03:02:57.000 You won't find gold or elephants in the Azores like Randall promotes.
03:03:01.000 It also has an opening at the south, which matches the description of Atlantis.
03:03:06.000 There's mountains to the north, which just so happen to be called the Atlas Mountains, which are in modern day Morocco.
03:03:11.000 Well, Atlas, which is a very unique name, It's also covered in salt.
03:03:33.000 Again, happened to be named the Atlas Mountains.
03:04:00.000 It's certainly really fascinating.
03:04:02.000 It is.
03:04:03.000 And just the fact that there's these concentric rings that match the description of Atlantis.
03:04:08.000 And it's in the same spot.
03:04:09.000 And the mountains are in the same spot.
03:04:12.000 The opening is in the same spot.
03:04:14.000 Look at that.
03:04:15.000 Whatever that is, it's really weird.
03:04:17.000 And if you would imagine a city like Atlantis and the way it was described, That seems a very likely spot for it.
03:04:25.000 And let me tell you something else.
03:04:26.000 A lot of people say, well, it's not an island, so it couldn't possibly be Atlantis.
03:04:29.000 But what they leave out is the fact that the ancient Greek word for island was Nessos and Nesson, which had five meanings, one of which was island.
03:04:38.000 The other was promontory, peninsula, as well as land within a continent surrounded by lakes, rivers, or springs, which matches the Rishad structure.
03:04:46.000 So it's like, you know, a lot of people, and let me also say this, Because a lot of people โ€“ and I think all areas should be studied.
03:04:51.000 I'm not debunking the Azores.
03:04:53.000 However, the fact that it's in the Sahara Desert and that the Egyptians are the ones that came up with the tale of Atlantis, that's where it originates from, which surprises a lot of people.
03:05:04.000 Well, Egypt is in the Sahara and so is the Rishat structure.
03:05:07.000 And at the time of Atlantis, the Sahara was green.
03:05:09.000 It had one of the largest networks of rivers ever known to exist as well as the largest freshwater lake.
03:05:14.000 And so if the Egyptians were colonists of a destroyed civilization, it's not unreasonable to say that it was in the Sahara.
03:05:23.000 And let me say something else.
03:05:24.000 If Atlantis was described as being busy all day and all night and was a trading postโ€” Does it make sense to be in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean or is it far more feasible that it would be in the Sahara Desert, which wasn't a desert at the time?
03:05:39.000 Because if it was said to be busy all day and all night with languages spoken from all over, where are all these people coming from in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean to go visit it?
03:05:49.000 It makes far more sense that it would be in that portion, in that region of the world.
03:05:54.000 How much work has been done excavating?
03:05:57.000 None.
03:05:57.000 Zero.
03:05:58.000 Almost nothing, yes.
03:06:00.000 There's gold in the Mortanian Desert and they don't want anyone touching it.
03:06:03.000 It's a dangerous place to go.
03:06:05.000 It's very inhospitable.
03:06:06.000 It's 250 miles inland and I know people who have gone out there and it is a dangerous, inhospitable place.
03:06:13.000 There's no water.
03:06:14.000 It's hard to get to.
03:06:16.000 You could have all the money in the world and you could still die out there.
03:06:20.000 Yeah, it's not just hard to get to, but not just inhospitable.
03:06:24.000 It's kind of war-torn, kind of fucked up, the kind of place where you're not going to have to worry about somebody playing a tourist trick on you.
03:06:30.000 They're just going to take your shit.
03:06:33.000 It's a lot of reasons that people aren't going there, but it's really interesting, even to me, where I'm a lot more skeptical.
03:06:41.000 So I do believe in a lost civilization, and I think that I think it's really interesting to find so many of those same things in the same area.
03:06:49.000 It's just uncanny.
03:06:50.000 Like Jim says, when it's just a stone's throw away from Egypt, really, it would make sense that they would have that package, a big chunk of those things, so accurately recorded.
03:06:59.000 And to find it right there...
03:07:03.000 Definitely.
03:07:03.000 This is one of the things I harp about on my channel all the time.
03:07:06.000 We need more honest skeptics.
03:07:09.000 This is definitely the kind of thing we need real scientists to go out there and do.
03:07:13.000 We don't need guys to knee-jerk and say, well, you attached it to Atlantis, so fuck that noise.
03:07:17.000 It can't be.
03:07:18.000 We don't need guys to say, it's definitely Atlantis, but there's nothing to see here.
03:07:22.000 We need boots on the ground.
03:07:23.000 And how the fuck could Atlantis, if it really is in Africa, be connected to white supremacy?
03:07:28.000 Oh, fuck.
03:07:28.000 Let me touch on this one really quick, Joe.
03:07:30.000 If I can hit this really fast...
03:07:32.000 It's so stupid.
03:07:33.000 The Africans are black!
03:07:34.000 Hello?
03:07:35.000 I'm saying the Atlanteans are black.
03:07:37.000 It's black supremacy.
03:07:38.000 This is what John Anthony West said on your show.
03:07:40.000 He said he's like, not only did Atlantis exist, but they were black.
03:07:44.000 African supremacy.
03:07:46.000 They did it.
03:07:47.000 The way that these guys attach the white supremacy thing is they go back to guys from the 1800s that wrote about Atlantis that had some old-school views on race.
03:07:56.000 Now, they believed in the biblical races, and the way that the biblical races came to be is something you'll never find John Hoops or Flint Dibble tell you because it guts their entire argument.
03:08:05.000 Before the Flood, there was one race of humans.
03:08:09.000 After the Flood, Noah gets drunk.
03:08:12.000 Three of his sons are around.
03:08:13.000 One of them picks on him, laughs at him.
03:08:15.000 Two other ones don't.
03:08:16.000 The one that picked on him was Ham.
03:08:19.000 The African people were considered to be the Hamites.
03:08:22.000 The Sam, the Semitic people, were in the middle.
03:08:26.000 And then the other one, the Japhaphites, which eventually became the Aryans, were considered to be the white people.
03:08:30.000 That was the European view of race for...
03:08:34.000 Up until about 150 years ago.
03:08:36.000 So, 200 years ago, a guy writing about Atlantis would not have thought it was an Aryan Atlantis because Arians didn't exist until after Noah.
03:08:46.000 It was one of Noah's sons.
03:08:47.000 So before the flood, there was no Arians.
03:08:50.000 So anytime somebody says that all this old school shit believes in Arians, all you have to do is scratch the surface and you'll find that's not the case at all.
03:08:56.000 This guy didn't believe in a white Atlantis.
03:08:58.000 Ignatius Donnelly did not believe in a white Atlantis despite Flint Dibble making sure to name drop that fucker anytime he gets a chance.
03:09:05.000 But they're going to make sure you think that.
03:09:07.000 They're going to eliminate, because the biblical races are something most people don't know much about.
03:09:11.000 Listen, let me just say this one point.
03:09:13.000 I don't care what their color of their skin was, but the legend comes from Egypt and they're fucking brown.
03:09:18.000 So get fucked with your racist argument.
03:09:21.000 I don't care.
03:09:22.000 Like, anyway.
03:09:23.000 I don't want to get fucked.
03:09:24.000 Gentlemen, thank you very much.
03:09:25.000 This has been a lot of fun.
03:09:27.000 It's really, really been fun.
03:09:28.000 Jimmy, always great to see you.
03:09:29.000 Good to see you again.
03:09:30.000 Very nice to meet you.
03:09:30.000 Nice to meet you too, Joe.
03:09:31.000 Thank you for your channel, both of you guys.
03:09:33.000 It's fantastic.
03:09:34.000 Dedunking, Bright Insight, awesome channels on YouTube.
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03:09:39.000 Love you all.
03:09:40.000 Thank you, Joe.
03:09:40.000 I'm going to be at the Cosmic Summit speaking this summer if you guys want to catch me there.
03:09:44.000 Beautiful.
03:09:44.000 Cosmic Summit, yeah.
03:09:45.000 Beautiful.
03:09:45.000 Thanks again, Joe.
03:09:46.000 Thanks, everybody.
03:09:47.000 Bye.
03:09:47.000 Bye now.