The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2249 - Yannis Pappas & Chris Distefano

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00:00:12.000 I want to see you vomit. 0.98

00:00:13.000 Are we up?

00:00:14.000 This is Chris Stefano's very first time ever lighting and smoking a cigar.

00:00:19.000 How old are you?

00:00:20.000 40. How have you managed to get this far with no cigars?

00:00:23.000 I don't know how to do any, like, really guy shit like that.

00:00:26.000 Like, I don't know how to play pool, cigars.

00:00:28.000 I don't really know how to do that, but I do know every state capitol.

00:00:31.000 Okay.

00:00:32.000 Is this the right way?

00:00:33.000 Yeah.

00:00:33.000 He's going to vomit.

00:00:34.000 I want to see him vomit on your show.

00:00:36.000 I don't think he's going to vomit.

00:00:36.000 Don't inhale it.

00:00:37.000 You've got to get the fire.

00:00:38.000 Lower your hand.

00:00:41.000 Are you doing this on purpose?

00:00:42.000 I swear on my kids I've never done this.

00:00:44.000 No, I mean the way you're being retarded. 1.00

00:00:46.000 Get the fire on the...

00:00:48.000 There we go.

00:00:50.000 Right on there.

00:00:50.000 Get it on there.

00:00:52.000 Get it in there.

00:00:53.000 There you go.

00:00:55.000 Yeah.

00:00:55.000 Alright, you're good.

00:00:56.000 Just start pulling.

00:00:57.000 No, suck it up. 0.97

00:00:57.000 No, you're not good. 0.97

00:00:58.000 How did you fuck that up?

00:00:59.000 What am I supposed to do?

00:01:01.000 You gotta inhale while you're lighting it.

00:01:01.000 Smoke it?

00:01:04.000 Yeah, what you wanna do is inhale all the smoke in.

00:01:08.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:01:10.000 You just kinda keep...

00:01:11.000 Take a deep...

00:01:11.000 I'm having fun with him.

00:01:12.000 Breathe in while you're doing that.

00:01:13.000 I fell into the thing!

00:01:16.000 Jesus Christ.

00:01:18.000 I don't know.

00:01:18.000 How do you get to be 40 and never have a cigar?

00:01:20.000 Well, now he's a man.

00:01:22.000 Now you're a man.

00:01:23.000 So what do I do now?

00:01:25.000 Puff on it.

00:01:25.000 You puff on it.

00:01:26.000 It's not even lit.

00:01:28.000 How did you fuck that up?

00:01:29.000 I'm sorry, Joe.

00:01:30.000 You tried to light it for five minutes.

00:01:32.000 You gotta puff on it.

00:01:32.000 You gotta do this, and you don't inhale.

00:01:36.000 You just take it into your mouth.

00:01:38.000 Yeah.

00:01:39.000 You enjoy the taste of it.

00:01:40.000 There you go.

00:01:41.000 Take some little puffs.

00:01:42.000 Yeah.

00:01:43.000 This is not going to work out well.

00:01:44.000 A couple puffs.

00:01:45.000 Yeah.

00:01:46.000 He's going to like the whole thing.

00:01:47.000 There you go.

00:01:48.000 Puff.

00:01:49.000 Keep puffing.

00:01:50.000 Keep it lit.

00:01:51.000 You want to keep it lit?

00:01:52.000 There we go.

00:01:53.000 Giannis knows.

00:01:54.000 Giannis, when was the first time you smoked a cigar?

00:01:56.000 I'm sorry.

00:01:56.000 When I was six years old.

00:01:58.000 Like a regular person.

00:01:58.000 Yeah.

00:01:59.000 Like a regular person.

00:02:00.000 With my uncle.

00:02:02.000 You know what it is?

00:02:02.000 How did he get to be 40 and no cigars?

00:02:04.000 I think because my dad never really smoked a cigar.

00:02:10.000 Don't cry.

00:02:10.000 Don't start crying.

00:02:11.000 No, it's in the back of my throat.

00:02:12.000 My dad never really smoked, and I never really did any, like, man kind of stuff like this.

00:02:19.000 And I was with my mom mostly, and she was more, you know...

00:02:22.000 Even the way you said that.

00:02:24.000 I know, well, it's just I got a cigar in the back of my throat.

00:02:28.000 But I don't know what to do.

00:02:29.000 I'm just thinking about how my clothes are going to smell like cigar smoke.

00:02:32.000 Yeah, no, it really does.

00:02:33.000 So it's going to mess with your head?

00:02:34.000 Yeah.

00:02:35.000 And it messes my head because I'm like, I don't want to get cigar smoke on my clothes.

00:02:38.000 Do you use cologne?

00:02:39.000 Yes.

00:02:40.000 Shout out Yves Saint Laurent.

00:02:42.000 Wow.

00:02:43.000 Body odor.

00:02:44.000 Do you not use cologne?

00:02:45.000 No.

00:02:46.000 Never?

00:02:46.000 No, never.

00:02:48.000 Maybe when I was like 18. You just go with your natural musk. 1.00

00:02:52.000 Well, I wear deodorant.

00:02:53.000 Right.

00:02:54.000 I wear Dr. Squatch.

00:02:55.000 Shout out Dr. Squatch.

00:02:56.000 Shout out Dr. Squatch.

00:02:57.000 Natural.

00:02:58.000 It doesn't have aluminum in it.

00:02:59.000 Yeah.

00:03:00.000 But I wonder if it works as good.

00:03:01.000 Well, there's more effect.

00:03:02.000 I think there's something to the aluminum.

00:03:03.000 Why would they put it in there if it wasn't effective?

00:03:05.000 No, I tried the deodorant without the aluminum and it doesn't work.

00:03:07.000 Dr. Squatch's good.

00:03:08.000 You can take a sniff of these bits.

00:03:09.000 Can I take a peek?

00:03:10.000 Hey, you smell.

00:03:11.000 Come see me.

00:03:12.000 Take a smell.

00:03:12.000 Here, you want me to go on the other side?

00:03:14.000 Come take a sniff.

00:03:16.000 They smell good.

00:03:17.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:03:18.000 Get in there.

00:03:19.000 Wow!

00:03:20.000 Not bad.

00:03:20.000 Not bad, right?

00:03:22.000 Dr. Squatch is legit.

00:03:24.000 I forget which flavor it is.

00:03:25.000 It's like fucking whiskey, bourbon, musk, some shit.

00:03:28.000 There's pheromones in natural scents.

00:03:30.000 Yeah, that's a lie.

00:03:32.000 You don't think so?

00:03:33.000 I mean, there's pheromones, but natural people smell disgusting. 0.99

00:03:35.000 People that don't wear any deodorant, they always smell funky.

00:03:38.000 Stinky.

00:03:38.000 They have, like, you know...

00:03:41.000 Think about how it works, right?

00:03:43.000 It's just getting squashed all the time.

00:03:45.000 Your pits are just constantly getting squashed.

00:03:48.000 And there's hair in there, unless you're a weirdo.

00:03:50.000 So there's hair, and the hair is collecting all the sweat, and it's just getting funky.

00:03:56.000 That's what made eating pussy so hard before the 2000s. 1.00

00:04:00.000 Before porn.

00:04:01.000 But porn used to be muffed out.

00:04:03.000 Right.

00:04:03.000 But somewhere along the line it wasn't.

00:04:05.000 And then society followed.

00:04:07.000 Yes.

00:04:08.000 And it changed eating pussy. 1.00

00:04:10.000 I mean, it's so much more enjoyable without any fumes.

00:04:13.000 Because the fumes get caught in the hair.

00:04:14.000 Fumating.

00:04:15.000 Stuff goes on down there.

00:04:18.000 Plus it's six inches from the asshole. 0.97

00:04:20.000 Not even.

00:04:21.000 Yeah.

00:04:22.000 You know?

00:04:22.000 Yeah.

00:04:23.000 Napoleon's letters to Josephine, he wanted her to have a full bush, and he wanted her not to bathe for a week.

00:04:29.000 When he was coming home for more, he said, I need it.

00:04:31.000 I need it.

00:04:31.000 Fucking Mungy.

00:04:32.000 So some guys like that.

00:04:34.000 Mungy.

00:04:35.000 Well, he was involved in trench warfare.

00:04:37.000 Right.

00:04:38.000 That guy had a different tolerance for shit.

00:04:40.000 Yeah.

00:04:41.000 You know, you just imagine the kind of warfare that Napoleon's crew were.

00:04:45.000 I mean, they had muskets.

00:04:47.000 And they were also probably much more tolerant of bad smells because history smelled.

00:04:51.000 Can you imagine?

00:04:52.000 People bathed once a week and even athlete's foot.

00:04:55.000 Everybody probably had athlete's foot. 1.00

00:04:57.000 Stinky.

00:04:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:57.000 Everyone.

00:04:58.000 They didn't have bidets yet.

00:05:00.000 No.

00:05:01.000 So your asshole was just like...

00:05:02.000 They didn't have running water, bro.

00:05:03.000 Yeah, they didn't have nothing.

00:05:04.000 They had buckets.

00:05:05.000 They were shitting in buckets.

00:05:07.000 The only people who were clean in antiquity?

00:05:09.000 Muslim people.

00:05:10.000 They were the clean ones.

00:05:11.000 When you read about the Crusades, they said the Muslims were able to smell the Christian army coming from miles away because of how filthy they were, where Muslims were all about science and cleansiness and Dr. Squatch before it was big. 1.00

00:05:24.000 Well, before the Mongols sacked Iraq, That was the pinnacle of civilization. 0.99

00:05:32.000 They turned the river, was it the river Tigris?

00:05:35.000 They turned it red with blood.

00:05:38.000 That's how many people they killed.

00:05:39.000 They killed the entire town of Baghdad. 0.66

00:05:42.000 They killed everybody there.

00:05:44.000 And those people were at the pinnacle of science.

00:05:46.000 And then look, you go all the way to the 1990s and you got fucking Saddam Hussein and his psychopathic kids running shit and killing people and that was what was left over. 0.60

00:05:56.000 Yeah.

00:05:57.000 Same gene line.

00:05:58.000 It's really nuts when you think about...

00:06:00.000 You think that gets into the genes, like the killer kind of psychopathic?

00:06:03.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:06:04.000 I think good things and bad things get in your genes.

00:06:08.000 I think that's been substantiated by science.

00:06:10.000 They said that even racism can be passed on from parent to child.

00:06:15.000 That makes sense.

00:06:16.000 I believe it.

00:06:16.000 Traumatic memories.

00:06:17.000 I believe it.

00:06:18.000 I feel like only now as I'm getting older am I like, oh, I have some of my mom's memories in my head, I feel like.

00:06:26.000 Think about it.

00:06:28.000 Let's think of simpler animals, like animals, like dogs, like Carl.

00:06:33.000 How the fuck does a dog know to pee on a tree?

00:06:36.000 How does a dog know to go to where pee is and pee on it?

00:06:40.000 How do they know any of those things?

00:06:42.000 They're born with it, programmed in.

00:06:43.000 There's some memory.

00:06:45.000 How do they know when they see another dog or an animal to bark?

00:06:48.000 Why are they scared of it?

00:06:49.000 Why are people scared of snakes?

00:06:52.000 Why are people scared of spiders?

00:06:53.000 Puerto Ricans are not scared of snakes.

00:06:55.000 Well, they probably live in Puerto Rico.

00:06:56.000 No, I'm saying they take them as household pets.

00:06:59.000 Yes.

00:06:59.000 My friend Sergio's got eight of them.

00:07:01.000 Eight snakes.

00:07:01.000 Yeah.

00:07:02.000 Sergio might be a problem.

00:07:03.000 Yeah, Sergio is a problem.

00:07:04.000 Sergio is going to hurt somebody.

00:07:05.000 Pets that are snakes.

00:07:07.000 Sergio used to beat up drug dealers when he was 15 with his fists.

00:07:11.000 Other drug dealers would pay this 15-year-old kid to go beat up other drug dealers with his fists on the Lower East Side and get money.

00:07:16.000 But he's a great guy and a spiritual guy and he's the only guy I know that would beat up a drug dealer and then journal about it later because he's in the speech.

00:07:22.000 How do you know about this guy?

00:07:23.000 He's a friend of ours, yeah.

00:07:24.000 He's our friend.

00:07:25.000 He's a comic though.

00:07:26.000 Sergio G. Cohen.

00:07:26.000 He's a comedian.

00:07:27.000 He's a comic?

00:07:27.000 Yeah.

00:07:27.000 He's a comic and a boxing instructor.

00:07:29.000 Oh, no kidding.

00:07:30.000 Yeah, he trains us both.

00:07:31.000 We're fucking ready.

00:07:32.000 Yeah.

00:07:33.000 You look thinner, dude.

00:07:35.000 You really do.

00:07:35.000 You look healthy.

00:07:36.000 Thank you.

00:07:36.000 He does.

00:07:37.000 He looks good.

00:07:37.000 You've been boxing?

00:07:38.000 I've been boxing.

00:07:39.000 Yeah.

00:07:39.000 Okay, let me see some moves.

00:07:40.000 You want to see it for real?

00:07:42.000 I'll show you form.

00:07:43.000 I got video of it.

00:07:44.000 I'll show you form, dude.

00:07:45.000 He's got a nice...

00:07:46.000 You made a video today!

00:07:47.000 I got a video today.

00:07:48.000 He's got a nice right hand.

00:07:49.000 You say you're slow, but you're not slow.

00:07:52.000 But you got a nice right hand.

00:07:54.000 Yeah.

00:07:55.000 He tells me I got a little power in both hands.

00:07:58.000 Right.

00:07:59.000 So I don't know.

00:07:59.000 You're a little too confident for my liking.

00:08:01.000 I know.

00:08:02.000 And that's how it goes.

00:08:03.000 And then you just get fucking stretched out.

00:08:05.000 Stretched out.

00:08:05.000 You'll get laid out, cuz.

00:08:06.000 Yeah, you get stretched out.

00:08:08.000 You have a smaller head than normal physically.

00:08:10.000 So it is hard to catch.

00:08:12.000 It's harder target.

00:08:12.000 Yeah, you're fucking target.

00:08:14.000 It looks like you got a helmet on your head.

00:08:15.000 Listen, the reality is both of you are going to get hit a lot.

00:08:19.000 100%.

00:08:19.000 And it's way better to have a big head.

00:08:21.000 Is it?

00:08:22.000 Guys with bigger heads traditionally, for a fact, take a better shot.

00:08:22.000 100%.

00:08:27.000 Those are guys like Mark Hunt.

00:08:29.000 Mark Hunt, one of the greatest kickboxers of all time.

00:08:32.000 K-1 Grand Prix champion, fought in UFC, fought in pride, is a legend.

00:08:38.000 Head the size of this table.

00:08:40.000 Yeah.

00:08:41.000 Body, dad body.

00:08:42.000 Brock Lesnar had the size of this table.

00:08:43.000 Yeah, he was just Samoan.

00:08:46.000 Yeah.

00:08:46.000 Just a giant, thick dude.

00:08:48.000 He was like 5'10", 250. Yeah.

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00:11:57.000 Can you see just from looking at our faces how easy it would be?

00:11:59.000 Yes.

00:12:00.000 My chin's going out.

00:12:00.000 I'm going out quick, right?

00:12:01.000 You don't have good structure.

00:12:02.000 Yeah.

00:12:03.000 I got a lady's face, is what you're saying. 1.00

00:12:05.000 No, you have a man's face, but there's certain faces that are easier to hurt.

00:12:10.000 Yeah, and his got a good jaw.

00:12:12.000 But, you know, there's arguments against that.

00:12:14.000 Like, some guys have small jaws, and somehow or another they take great punches.

00:12:17.000 Max Holloway doesn't have, like, a big square jaw, takes a tremendous punch.

00:12:21.000 Yeah.

00:12:22.000 Right.

00:12:22.000 I'm scared to sleep with the lights off, so I think if I got hit...

00:12:26.000 You look like you can take a good shot, though.

00:12:27.000 Like, the structure's good.

00:12:29.000 Yeah.

00:12:29.000 What I have, what my defense is, not against guys like you, if you don't know me, but my defense is I look like I can take a punch...

00:12:36.000 You look like you could be a complete psychopath.

00:12:37.000 And I don't know any...

00:12:38.000 Like, if I could teach you how to, like, really find your inner psycho, you'd scare the fuck out of people.

00:12:43.000 First you gotta teach me how to light a cigar.

00:12:44.000 I don't even know how to do that.

00:12:45.000 There's something dead behind your eyes that's very troubling if you were angry.

00:12:49.000 If I was angry, yeah.

00:12:50.000 But the thing is for me, Joe, and I'm just completely honest with you, when I get really angry, like you'll punch a wall or you'll do man shit, I cry.

00:12:58.000 There's been many times where I've gotten so mad that I just start to tear up and cry.

00:13:01.000 I've cried in front of Giannis before.

00:13:02.000 When you get angry?

00:13:03.000 When I get angry, I just start to cry.

00:13:05.000 So there's some wires crossed somewhere in me, but we've kind of accepted.

00:13:08.000 That's why I think our friendship has blossomed to the way it is, because we both understand that we just have a little bit more estrogen than most guys, and that's okay.

00:13:15.000 We got nicked for sure.

00:13:16.000 I mean, some people get fully clipped.

00:13:19.000 Joe didn't get it at all.

00:13:20.000 Joe got not even close to being nicked, which is rare for a comic, because it's very usually hard to be funny and not a little bit of a feminine guy.

00:13:27.000 You're a very manly guy that can be funny.

00:13:29.000 That's rarity, babe.

00:13:30.000 Well, most guys that, if you hang around boxing gyms, or if you hang around a lot of cops, or if you hang around soldiers, they're funny, man.

00:13:38.000 They're funny dudes because it's gallows humor.

00:13:41.000 One of my funniest friends was a Special Forces guy.

00:13:44.000 He's fucking hilarious.

00:13:45.000 And he's always cracking jokes you could never repeat, saying things you could never repeat, and it's just so funny.

00:13:54.000 He's funny.

00:13:55.000 It's just funny in kind of a crazy way.

00:13:59.000 We always say that like if we were like back in history like 200 years ago or whatever, we'd be the guys in the war.

00:14:04.000 We'd either be hitting the drums or we would just be keeping the troops loose, laughing with the troops because we're not the kind of God.

00:14:10.000 We think we have value as men to other warrior men like yourself, but we're not going to do the fighting.

00:14:16.000 But we will do the cooking, the cleaning, and the laughing.

00:14:19.000 I will offer my nuts up to be a eunuch to watch the harem. 1.00

00:14:22.000 It's also the experiences that you've had in your life that make you who you are right now.

00:14:26.000 It's not as simple as like...

00:14:28.000 Like when I was a kid, I was terrified of everybody.

00:14:30.000 That's why I learned martial arts.

00:14:31.000 I was getting picked on.

00:14:33.000 I hated it.

00:14:34.000 So I was like, alright, I've got to figure out...

00:14:36.000 There's only one way.

00:14:37.000 The only one way is to become formidable.

00:14:40.000 To become the person that you're scared of.

00:14:43.000 So I did that.

00:14:44.000 But it wasn't because I was this kid that was tough all the time.

00:14:49.000 When I was young, I understood how to just be a fucking man.

00:14:53.000 No, I had to learn all that.

00:14:55.000 From great weakness comes great strength.

00:14:58.000 Well, you recognize what it is, right?

00:15:01.000 It's thought patterns.

00:15:02.000 You allow your brain to go down these Very detrimental thought patterns and you under you have to like separate you Consciousness from these patterns that you allow your your attention to go down That's what it is.

00:15:20.000 Yeah, and if you can shut those off You'll you'll have a happier life you have to you have to understand where they're going and when they go in a negative detrimental anxiety spiral Now, I'm not saying this will work for everybody because I do believe that some anxiety is chemical.

00:15:35.000 I believe that some people have a bad balance because I know people like that.

00:15:40.000 It's a real thing.

00:15:41.000 And I can never say that the way I think is the way everybody thinks.

00:15:45.000 There's no way.

00:15:46.000 But I know for me that with me, I know because of extreme experiences, I know how to shut those things off.

00:15:54.000 So from fighting, from hunting, from doing stand-up, from doing a lot of live things where you're in front of like thousands of people, I know how to shut that part of the brain off that goes down those roads.

00:16:05.000 I know what it is, you know?

00:16:06.000 I've experienced it.

00:16:08.000 I've never had a panic attack, but I've had anxiety and I freaked out before and then I was like, why did I react like that?

00:16:13.000 And then you look at it in retrospect, you go, okay, I started spiral, and then what if this happens?

00:16:17.000 And then what if that happens?

00:16:18.000 What if this happens?

00:16:19.000 What if that happens?

00:16:22.000 Okay, don't do that.

00:16:23.000 And then get to that spot and have enough mental clarity and enough sovereignty, control over the mind to not allow it to go down there.

00:16:34.000 It's tough when you have a comedian's brain because that's what we do.

00:16:36.000 We spend a lot of time in our heads analyzing things.

00:16:38.000 Analyzing things.

00:16:39.000 Sometimes it can turn on you.

00:16:40.000 Yeah.

00:16:41.000 If it starts with what if, it's anxiety.

00:16:43.000 Push it out of the brain, folks.

00:16:45.000 And anxiety is a liar.

00:16:45.000 What if is no good.

00:16:46.000 Anxiety is a liar.

00:16:48.000 Anxiety is a liar.

00:16:49.000 But that what if sometimes is good.

00:16:52.000 Like, what if I do this?

00:16:53.000 What if I just re-look at this?

00:16:56.000 What if is not bad?

00:16:57.000 What if it's attached to, what if it all falls apart?

00:17:02.000 What if everyone hates me?

00:17:04.000 Like, every now and then I get a text from a friend that's like, hey man, are we cool?

00:17:08.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:17:09.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:17:10.000 Like, what happened?

00:17:10.000 Of course we're cool.

00:17:11.000 Well, I just don't know.

00:17:12.000 I haven't heard from you in a while.

00:17:13.000 I'm like, are you okay?

00:17:14.000 Yeah.

00:17:15.000 Like, what is...

00:17:16.000 Let's talk on the phone.

00:17:17.000 These are weird conversations, you know?

00:17:20.000 Some people just go down a road and they start thinking everybody hates them.

00:17:23.000 That's narcissism, right?

00:17:24.000 They just think everyone's obsessed with you.

00:17:26.000 There's a little bit of that, right?

00:17:28.000 Unfortunately, even victims, like people that are psychologically damaged and they're depressed, that is a type of narcissism, unfortunately.

00:17:36.000 But you don't want to further victimize someone who's got a mental illness by saying, oh, you're a narcissist.

00:17:42.000 But if you're just only worried about how other people think of you, And only worried about how you fit into everything.

00:17:50.000 Yeah, there's a narcissism in that.

00:17:52.000 I know when I text you, I just go, hey, there's a one in six chance.

00:17:55.000 The guy's a busy guy.

00:17:56.000 That's what it is.

00:17:57.000 I never take it personally.

00:17:58.000 I have to get a new number, and I've been saying this for a while.

00:18:00.000 I have a couple numbers, but I have to...

00:18:04.000 I gotta just completely check out.

00:18:06.000 And I never call you first because I'm like, I don't know if we got that type of friendship.

00:18:10.000 You can totally call me.

00:18:11.000 I can call you?

00:18:11.000 Yeah, small friends.

00:18:12.000 Alright.

00:18:12.000 I hug you when I see you, right?

00:18:13.000 Yeah.

00:18:14.000 Then you can call me.

00:18:14.000 Oh, I'm calling you.

00:18:15.000 There's been a couple of times I've sent you.

00:18:16.000 I'm coming over for Christmas.

00:18:17.000 Yeah.

00:18:17.000 Now, oh wow, you're gonna be seeing a lot of Giannis Pappas popping up.

00:18:20.000 Let's go.

00:18:21.000 There's been a couple of times I've sent Joe voice notes, and then you listen back, and I'm like, I'm not sending that.

00:18:25.000 And then I just don't reach out.

00:18:27.000 What'd you say?

00:18:27.000 What's up, honey bubbles?

00:18:28.000 What's up, baby gorgeous?

00:18:29.000 You know who sends me the most voice notes?

00:18:31.000 Alex Jones.

00:18:31.000 Because they disappear.

00:18:33.000 Oh, right.

00:18:34.000 This is what they're planning.

00:18:35.000 And then it fucking disappears.

00:18:36.000 But you could keep them.

00:18:37.000 That's perfect.

00:18:37.000 Yeah, you could keep them.

00:18:39.000 But doesn't he know if you keep them?

00:18:40.000 Yeah.

00:18:40.000 I don't want him knowing that.

00:18:41.000 I don't want him knowing that.

00:18:43.000 I'll record it with another phone.

00:18:45.000 That's smart.

00:18:46.000 I'll film it.

00:18:47.000 Smart, dude.

00:18:48.000 That's what the problem is.

00:18:48.000 Yeah.

00:18:49.000 Yeah.

00:18:49.000 That's perfect.

00:18:51.000 I've known him for about 25 fucking years.

00:18:53.000 I mean, if you called me and did that, I'd be like, Alex Jones.

00:18:55.000 As soon as Trump gets in, the aliens will land.

00:18:59.000 That's perfect.

00:18:59.000 They're turning the frogs gay.

00:19:02.000 Dude, I saw a video of Alex Jones, and I'm late to the game of seeing this, but how he predicted 9-11 in June of 2001. He did, yeah.

00:19:09.000 I was crazy to watch that.

00:19:10.000 Tucker thinks he's a savant.

00:19:13.000 He's a very misunderstood guy.

00:19:16.000 He really is.

00:19:17.000 And it's really unfortunate, that Sandy Hook thing, because if it wasn't for that, he would be way more respected and people would appreciate him for what he is.

00:19:23.000 He had a psychotic break.

00:19:26.000 And he had a drinking problem at one time and maybe some other stuff.

00:19:33.000 And he was losing his fucking mind because all day long it's conspiracies that are real.

00:19:36.000 And so when you start looking for conspiracies in places that aren't real, and then I think there's also another thing.

00:19:44.000 I think there are certain people.

00:19:46.000 Now, I don't know who they work for.

00:19:48.000 I don't know if they're independent.

00:19:49.000 I don't know if they do it just for fun.

00:19:51.000 Some people create fake, compelling conspiracies and then put them online.

00:19:57.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:19:58.000 They do it.

00:19:58.000 For content.

00:19:59.000 Yeah.

00:19:59.000 For views.

00:20:01.000 That's true, too.

00:20:01.000 Attention.

00:20:02.000 But I think there's a more nefarious aspect to it, too.

00:20:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:20:05.000 I think the more conspiracies that you can make look really stupid, the more the real ones.

00:20:12.000 It seems preposterous because they're connected, right?

00:20:16.000 Here's a great example.

00:20:18.000 9-11 was an inside job.

00:20:20.000 That sounds fucking insane, right?

00:20:21.000 That sounds completely insane that the government did that.

00:20:24.000 But 51 former intelligence agents testified that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation.

00:20:33.000 That sounds crazy, too.

00:20:35.000 Right.

00:20:35.000 But that's real.

00:20:36.000 Right?

00:20:37.000 If you get enough of the ones that don't make sense, like the Jews control the weather, you get enough of the flat earth ones, you get enough... 1.00

00:20:45.000 They're all...

00:20:45.000 It's all like...

00:20:46.000 It's like the term drugs, right?

00:20:48.000 The term drugs applies to nicotine.

00:20:50.000 It applies to the coffee we're drinking.

00:20:52.000 That's what a drug is.

00:20:53.000 But it also applies to fucking meth, right?

00:20:55.000 Right.

00:20:56.000 Conspiracy theories are lumped in all together, just like drugs.

00:21:00.000 And the best way to do that is to put a bunch of bad ones out there, really bad ones, so that the ones that are plausible, you go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:21:11.000 Show me the Pfizer files.

00:21:13.000 Why are they hidden for 75 years?

00:21:16.000 Wait a minute.

00:21:18.000 How many people did you test this on?

00:21:19.000 Did you ever test for transmission?

00:21:20.000 You never did.

00:21:21.000 So when you were on TV and you're saying that, what was going on there?

00:21:23.000 That's a real conspiracy.

00:21:25.000 These are real people conspired to hide information and to shape a narrative that would be very, very profitable.

00:21:32.000 Right.

00:21:32.000 But nobody's going to believe the Jews created the weather and then also...

00:21:37.000 It's only a small group of people who are going to go.

00:21:39.000 The Jews are controlling the weather. 1.00

00:21:40.000 They're definitely cloud seeding in Dubai.

00:21:42.000 They will crawl in your shoes, though.

00:21:44.000 The Jews will crawl in your shoes. 1.00

00:21:45.000 For sure.

00:21:46.000 Make sure you keep your shoes tight.

00:21:47.000 Tighten your laces.

00:21:48.000 For sure, there's people that can discern between a good conspiracy and a bad conspiracy.

00:21:52.000 But I don't think there's a lot of them.

00:21:54.000 I think it's like 30% of the population.

00:21:56.000 All right, let me ask you about this one, then.

00:21:57.000 America, maybe.

00:21:58.000 America.

00:21:58.000 30% of America.

00:21:59.000 Let me throw this one out.

00:22:00.000 Are you ready for this one?

00:22:02.000 Do you think it's possible, just hear me out, do you think it's possible that what this existence actually is is some type of prison planet and we are negative emotions are being fed on by an ancient alien race that has kind of imprisoned us and the reason why monks and people like that go into deep meditation is because a lot of this universe is spoken through vibrations and they can get their vibrations to a certain height where they can vibrate and have so much positive energy that the prison planet rulers can't eat their Can't eat them,

00:22:31.000 and they're not stuck in this loop like we are.

00:22:33.000 Where'd you get this one?

00:22:35.000 This is real.

00:22:36.000 I thought it was eat their negative thoughts.

00:22:37.000 Eat their negative thoughts and negative emotions.

00:22:39.000 Can you light me up, Giannis?

00:22:40.000 I'd like to hear about that.

00:22:41.000 This is such a feminine thing. 1.00

00:22:43.000 He's asking you to hold the door open for him.

00:22:45.000 Why don't you put the umbrella over his head, light a cigar.

00:22:49.000 You're getting lit up on nicotine.

00:22:51.000 Yeah, that's what it is.

00:22:52.000 I feel light-headed.

00:22:53.000 Is that normal?

00:22:54.000 Yeah!

00:22:55.000 Yeah, you may get sick too, but it'll be fine.

00:22:58.000 That's why cigars are so good for conversation.

00:23:01.000 You're not gonna get sick.

00:23:02.000 Cigars are so good for conversation because it gets you a little loose.

00:23:04.000 Yeah.

00:23:05.000 It's nice.

00:23:06.000 It's a nice little buzz.

00:23:07.000 So you don't think there's a possibility this is a prison plan from an advanced human race and they're eating our negative emotions and thoughts?

00:23:13.000 For fuel.

00:23:14.000 Where'd you get that?

00:23:15.000 Where'd you get that from?

00:23:16.000 Alex Jones.

00:23:16.000 No, not Alex Jones.

00:23:17.000 Alex Jones has a much more detailed explanation.

00:23:20.000 Interdimensional child molesters.

00:23:22.000 There's a device on the moon.

00:23:23.000 There's a device on the moon.

00:23:24.000 That's how they reflect.

00:23:25.000 That's how they reflect.

00:23:27.000 The energy goes to that.

00:23:29.000 That sounds like some L. Ron Hubbard shit.

00:23:31.000 Carl likes it.

00:23:32.000 Have you ever read any L. Ron Hubbard?

00:23:34.000 I know the details.

00:23:35.000 I know it's a nice pyramid scheme to go up all the way.

00:23:38.000 Oh yeah, but that's just the Dianetics or Scientology.

00:23:42.000 The really fun stuff is his science fiction.

00:23:45.000 Do you know that he wrote the most words ever?

00:23:49.000 What?

00:23:50.000 Of any human being.

00:23:51.000 More than James Joyce?

00:23:52.000 He has the most published work of all time.

00:23:56.000 Wow.

00:23:56.000 So he's like the Thomas Kinkane of writing?

00:24:00.000 Well, he never made a second draft.

00:24:02.000 Homeboy's stuff all sucked.

00:24:04.000 It was all unbelievably bad science fiction.

00:24:07.000 Got it.

00:24:08.000 It was unbelievably bad.

00:24:10.000 Like, wonderful.

00:24:11.000 Like, so bad, it's just like, what?

00:24:13.000 Have you ever seen Battlefield Earth?

00:24:15.000 Yeah, that was the worst movie ever.

00:24:17.000 L. Ron Hubbard is a record-holding author who owns the Guinness World Records for publishing.

00:24:21.000 Most published works by one author.

00:24:23.000 Most audiobooks published by one author.

00:24:25.000 Most translated author in the world.

00:24:27.000 Most translated author, same book, The Way to Happiness.

00:24:31.000 Very interesting.

00:24:33.000 He's a special IBM typewriter with extra keys for common words.

00:24:38.000 What?

00:24:39.000 He was so bad.

00:24:40.000 He was so bad at writing.

00:24:42.000 Not only did he not edit, he needed the word ready.

00:24:46.000 You keep going, you might be in line for Guinness World Records' most podcast minutes ever recorded.

00:24:54.000 That's possible.

00:24:55.000 That's very possible.

00:24:55.000 You could get that.

00:24:57.000 Maybe.

00:24:57.000 I mean, what's the record now?

00:24:58.000 I don't know, but who's doing nine hours a week?

00:25:01.000 Only you.

00:25:01.000 I might already have it.

00:25:02.000 You might already have it.

00:25:03.000 But that's like, I already have the Guinness World Record one that Adam Carolla holds.

00:25:07.000 What's that one?

00:25:08.000 Adam Carolla has, like, the most downloaded podcast of all time.

00:25:11.000 Like, bitch, that's mine. 1.00

00:25:13.000 You can have it, though.

00:25:14.000 Keep your name in the book.

00:25:16.000 That's mine.

00:25:16.000 Well, because, yeah, you have to specifically go to Guinness World Records and they have to do research and, like, give you a whole thing.

00:25:22.000 Yeah, you have to prove it.

00:25:23.000 You have to go to them to try to get it on the books, and I don't give a fuck.

00:25:26.000 But...

00:25:27.000 If they were like really checking.

00:25:29.000 It's you.

00:25:29.000 It has to be.

00:25:32.000 This has been number one for five or six years?

00:25:35.000 Yeah.

00:25:35.000 There's no way.

00:25:36.000 Right.

00:25:36.000 There's no way Adam Kroll still got it.

00:25:38.000 That's crazy.

00:25:38.000 No way.

00:25:39.000 You're lying.

00:25:39.000 No.

00:25:39.000 And you do what?

00:25:40.000 Average three every episode, three hours.

00:25:43.000 So it's nine hours a week.

00:25:44.000 Yeah.

00:25:44.000 Average.

00:25:44.000 Yeah.

00:25:45.000 Yeah.

00:25:45.000 But I'm using usually four a week.

00:25:47.000 Wow.

00:25:47.000 So it's usually 12. And sometimes five.

00:25:50.000 Yeah.

00:25:50.000 This week is four.

00:25:52.000 Some weeks it's five.

00:25:54.000 And if it's a fight companion, like some weeks it's four and a fight companion, the fight companion might be five hours long, you know?

00:26:00.000 That's just passion, you think?

00:26:01.000 Like, you never say, fuck, I gotta do a pod.

00:26:03.000 It's always like, can't wait to do the pod.

00:26:04.000 I never say, fuck, I have to do a pod.

00:26:05.000 That's beautiful.

00:26:06.000 Especially guys like you.

00:26:07.000 I'm like, we're gonna have fun.

00:26:07.000 We're gonna have fun.

00:26:08.000 What are we talking about prison planets?

00:26:10.000 Do you know how much we would be loving this if it never happened?

00:26:15.000 Like, if you never got to be around friends and just shoot the shit and smoke a cigar and laugh and crack up and talk about nonsense, like...

00:26:23.000 If you couldn't do it, it would be something you would look forward to so much.

00:26:26.000 If you're lonely, if you didn't have good friends, you didn't have, like, comics are the best friends.

00:26:32.000 They're the best friends to have.

00:26:33.000 Because you could be open with them, they talk crazy, they say wild shit, you laugh together, you feed off of each other.

00:26:40.000 They're the best friends.

00:26:41.000 If you didn't have any comics for friends, there's a lot of fucking sad, sad people out there.

00:26:47.000 Yeah.

00:26:47.000 So if you're not sad...

00:26:49.000 You say comics aren't sad?

00:26:50.000 Oh yeah, some comics are.

00:26:51.000 Some comics are sad.

00:26:53.000 Tears of a Clown.

00:26:54.000 Yeah, that's a little exaggerated.

00:26:56.000 I think a lot of them are sad because of the whole thing we were talking about before, like narcissism and anxiety.

00:27:02.000 Like comics are some awful narcissists.

00:27:04.000 But you know when you really see that?

00:27:06.000 When comics start attacking comics that are doing better than them.

00:27:09.000 Because it's only comics that are doing better than them.

00:27:11.000 So what's happening?

00:27:13.000 Comparison.

00:27:13.000 The thief of joy.

00:27:14.000 Yes.

00:27:14.000 Teddy Roosevelt.

00:27:15.000 Yeah.

00:27:16.000 All criticism comes from a place of unmet needs.

00:27:19.000 Right.

00:27:19.000 The tragic result of unmet needs.

00:27:20.000 Right.

00:27:21.000 And so there's this feeling, like, what about me?

00:27:23.000 Me, me, me.

00:27:24.000 Fuck you, honest.

00:27:25.000 Why is he fucking history hyenas?

00:27:27.000 I don't give a fuck if they're back.

00:27:29.000 Fuck off.

00:27:29.000 Yeah.

00:27:30.000 We are back.

00:27:34.000 Baby, I'm a baby.

00:27:37.000 It's all about me.

00:27:38.000 Everybody else sucks.

00:27:44.000 That's what it is.

00:27:46.000 Isn't there a wonderful world that we live in?

00:27:48.000 Isn't there chaos and beauty?

00:27:50.000 Isn't there so many things to talk about?

00:27:52.000 And you're going to talk about other comics?

00:27:54.000 Shut the fuck up, bitch. 1.00

00:27:55.000 I agree.

00:27:56.000 Shut the fuck up, you whiny bitch. 1.00

00:27:58.000 That's why it's good to have, in my opinion, we both have kids.

00:28:01.000 We get lost.

00:28:03.000 We'll do our work, and we'll do our stuff, have fun, and then we just play with our kids.

00:28:07.000 Play with the real stuff that matters.

00:28:08.000 Our wives, our kids, hanging out with them.

00:28:11.000 It definitely changes everything.

00:28:12.000 Some of our peers who don't have families and is just constantly worried about this business is like, I don't know how you're going to get off that treadmill.

00:28:19.000 Yeah, that's not good.

00:28:20.000 I would not be the same human being if I didn't have a family.

00:28:23.000 I just would not.

00:28:24.000 I wouldn't have the same empathy and compassion for people.

00:28:27.000 I wouldn't understand the development of a child.

00:28:31.000 I talked about this before, but I really genuinely changed the way I look at human beings after I became a parent.

00:28:39.000 Because I used to look at adults like they were just, oh, this guy's an asshole, he's 36, he's a fucking dickhead.

00:28:46.000 Now I go, oh, that's a baby.

00:28:49.000 That's a baby that got terrible exposure to bad ideas and bad input and mean people around him and you got, you know, thrust into this situation.

00:28:58.000 So now you see him, like when I see homeless people, I get so sad.

00:29:02.000 And I see like homeless people that are just like, that's someone's baby.

00:29:06.000 They held that baby.

00:29:07.000 And now here's this person just leaning on the corner.

00:29:10.000 You know, what is that thing they're doing?

00:29:11.000 And like, it's a lot of it in Philadelphia where they're like...

00:29:14.000 Like totally like lean back.

00:29:16.000 Oh is this a crank or something?

00:29:18.000 What do they call it?

00:29:19.000 It's the heroin lean.

00:29:19.000 I don't even know if it's heroin.

00:29:22.000 It's like I think it's some new stuff.

00:29:24.000 It's a new shit.

00:29:25.000 This guy was like doing a yoga thing.

00:29:26.000 I'm like if you could do that like it's essentially he's doing like a very difficult core maneuver.

00:29:33.000 Yeah Joe's like can I do that with a kettlebell?

00:29:34.000 I was wondering.

00:29:35.000 I was looking at this guy, I'm like, I don't think that's good for your back, but, like, if he can hold it there, that's gotta be some, like, very good structure.

00:29:44.000 Do you do that, it's a baby thing, even with, like, Genghis Khan and Hitler? 0.78

00:29:47.000 Everybody.

00:29:47.000 Even when they're murdering, like, he's just a baby.

00:29:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:49.000 Yeah, I do.

00:29:50.000 I mean, I don't forgive them.

00:29:51.000 I mean, it's not, like, what stopped me from killing them.

00:29:53.000 But what it does do is it puts me in this place of, instead of, like, thinking of everything as being static, that everything is this, like, constant progression towards what What you are now.

00:30:06.000 Yeah.

00:30:07.000 Even though, listen, dude, I love America.

00:30:09.000 I bleed red, white, and blue.

00:30:10.000 I stay draped in the American flag.

00:30:12.000 I love our country.

00:30:13.000 I believe you.

00:30:13.000 I do understand terrorism, terrorists, like old school terrorists, when like, you know, if America's like bombed their country for whatever reason and killed their babies, they're like, well, now I'm going to fucking go lethal and I'm going to start killing everybody in that country when I can.

00:30:26.000 I just get it where I didn't get it before I had kids.

00:30:29.000 But I'm like, if somebody did that to me and my children and took them away, I would just go crazy.

00:30:33.000 I'd learn how to light a cigar and I'd start fucking killing people because I have nothing left to live for, I feel.

00:30:37.000 So I get it now.

00:30:38.000 Of course.

00:30:39.000 I mean, it's not a coincidence that some of the scariest people live in war-torn parts of the world.

00:30:44.000 Sure.

00:30:44.000 Like, the fighters that come to the UFC, the scariest motherfuckers are like the guys from Chechnya, you know, guys from Dagestan.

00:30:51.000 Like, those guys are terrifying.

00:30:53.000 Why?

00:30:53.000 Well, look at the history of that part of the world.

00:30:55.000 Yeah.

00:30:55.000 You know what I mean?

00:30:56.000 You have to be a hard person to fucking survive.

00:30:59.000 Right.

00:30:59.000 Yeah.

00:31:00.000 You know?

00:31:01.000 Yeah.

00:31:01.000 Am I supposed to just keep holding the cigar?

00:31:02.000 You guys put it down.

00:31:03.000 No, I put it down every now and then.

00:31:04.000 So I just put it down, and now...

00:31:05.000 Don't do it on paper.

00:31:06.000 Jesus Christ.

00:31:07.000 Yeah, that'll set the paper off.

00:31:08.000 Sorry about that.

00:31:09.000 So, all right.

00:31:10.000 Those are Dice's cigarettes in there, so don't take the cigarettes out.

00:31:12.000 Take the fucking Ashtray.

00:31:14.000 Oh, sorry.

00:31:14.000 I don't know what to do.

00:31:15.000 This is fun, though.

00:31:22.000 Why do you want to keep Dice's cigarettes in there?

00:31:24.000 Because they're Dice's!

00:31:27.000 He doesn't smoke them, he just takes them out and he holds onto them and he puts them in the ashtray and then he pulls another one out and he holds onto it.

00:31:33.000 He went smoking again for a while, he started smoking again, but then he stopped again.

00:31:37.000 Gotta be careful, my health!

00:31:40.000 You want to talk about a great father, but that's Dice.

00:31:43.000 Dice is all about his kids.

00:31:46.000 Very dedicated.

00:31:47.000 His kids play at his shows.

00:31:50.000 His son is fucking amazing on the drums.

00:31:54.000 He's a great guy.

00:31:55.000 Dice is another misunderstood guy.

00:31:57.000 Legitimate good dude.

00:31:59.000 And also a legitimate artist.

00:32:01.000 Like his performance art, the weird stuff that he does in New York City for no money, for no people.

00:32:06.000 Do you want the picture?

00:32:08.000 So few people are even watching those clips.

00:32:11.000 If we haven't brought them up, like I don't know how many views they would even have.

00:32:16.000 He's not promoting it.

00:32:17.000 He's not trying to go on podcasting.

00:32:19.000 He doesn't even tell you about them.

00:32:21.000 You have to find them.

00:32:22.000 And if you're on a podcast, he's like, you gotta see this thing I'm doing, but then they want a picture.

00:32:28.000 He doesn't do any of that.

00:32:29.000 He doesn't do any of that.

00:32:30.000 Oh, and a big shot!

00:32:31.000 He's a real artist, man.

00:32:32.000 Yeah, he's the best.

00:32:33.000 Give me some, give me some.

00:32:36.000 Okay.

00:32:40.000 Have you been keeping up with the drone flying saucer thing?

00:32:46.000 No.

00:32:47.000 No?

00:32:50.000 Hi.

00:32:52.000 Have you been seeing like the space ships on...

00:32:55.000 Did you see any of the flying saucers that they've been talking about?

00:33:02.000 No.

00:33:06.000 You would never imagine that that guy sold out Madison Square Garden.

00:33:10.000 That's what I was just thinking.

00:33:11.000 Multiple times.

00:33:13.000 Nassau Coliseum.

00:33:14.000 He was the fucking man.

00:33:17.000 At one point he was like the only comedian people knew about.

00:33:20.000 He was certainly one of They'll only be casuals.

00:33:22.000 Yeah.

00:33:23.000 What is also great about Dice is, you know, obviously Giannis and I both comics in New York, so we see him a lot.

00:33:27.000 He's one of the most giving guys to the younger guys.

00:33:30.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:30.000 When he comes into the clubs, he'll tell you about, he won't tell you about his feats at Madison Square Garden and all that to tell you, like, how good he is.

00:33:37.000 He'll say, here's where I was, here's where I am now, so this comedy game is like a roller coaster and I'm living proof and just stay in the game.

00:33:44.000 That's he always tells me.

00:33:46.000 Just stay in the game because you just don't know.

00:33:48.000 Do not quit.

00:33:49.000 No, he's great.

00:33:49.000 He's great.

00:33:50.000 How old is Dice now?

00:33:51.000 60s?

00:33:52.000 Definitely 60s.

00:33:53.000 Definitely 60s.

00:33:54.000 He gave me advice to go on the road when I was just hanging out at the store, when I was in my 20s.

00:34:00.000 I met Dyson.

00:34:01.000 I couldn't believe I was meeting him, you know what I mean?

00:34:03.000 It was like one of those things, like, I can't believe that's really him.

00:34:06.000 You know, you see a guy, like, when I was 19 years old, me and this girl I was dating, we were listening to his cassette in my car in front of my house.

00:34:13.000 I'll never forget it.

00:34:14.000 We were crying.

00:34:14.000 Bah!

00:34:15.000 In front of my house.

00:34:16.000 So for me, that was Dice.

00:34:18.000 Dice was this guy where I'd seen him on HBO. Like, this is crazy.

00:34:22.000 He's on HBO. Like, this is so funny.

00:34:25.000 To now, like, getting advice from him at the store.

00:34:28.000 He's like, you should do The Road.

00:34:29.000 And I was like, really?

00:34:30.000 He goes, yeah.

00:34:31.000 You don't want to rely on these jerk-offs for all your fucking money.

00:34:34.000 And he's like, you know, you don't need these people to, you know, and it's the advice I give everybody now.

00:34:39.000 Like, you don't want to be connected where you're completely dependent on one source of income.

00:34:44.000 That's terrible.

00:34:45.000 It's a bad place to be.

00:34:46.000 He'll text me sometimes and be like, oh, Chris, can you talk?

00:34:49.000 And then if I don't answer, he'll say, call me back when your kids are sleeping.

00:34:54.000 And then when you call him, because he's like, I never want to take attention away from you, from your children.

00:34:59.000 So he goes, I want to talk to you when either your kids are in school or they're asleep.

00:35:02.000 Other than that, he goes, you should just be focusing on your kids and not talking to anybody.

00:35:05.000 So I was like, oh wow, Dice is like really about his kids.

00:35:08.000 It's like an awesome thing, you know?

00:35:10.000 And then he'll go, goosh! 0.66

00:35:11.000 And then he'll start telling you about, I fucking gooed on her last night!

00:35:15.000 You gotta respect your family!

00:35:19.000 I've noticed now when you, like my conversations with people have become like I did when I was in high school.

00:35:25.000 I gotta wait till everyone's asleep and then I gotta, it's late at night, one in the morning and only people I can talk to is comics because they're up and, you know, it's weird.

00:35:33.000 You know, kids don't even talk to each other.

00:35:35.000 They just Snapchat.

00:35:36.000 That's it.

00:35:37.000 Most of them Snapchat.

00:35:38.000 I'm learning this from my kids, like, you guys don't text at all?

00:35:41.000 She goes, I only text my family.

00:35:43.000 Yeah.

00:35:44.000 So like, if she gets an iMessage, it's only from one of us.

00:35:47.000 Right.

00:35:47.000 That's it.

00:35:48.000 Everything else is, they're snapping each other back and forth.

00:35:52.000 Yeah.

00:35:52.000 And they just like, take a picture of this.

00:35:54.000 Yeah.

00:35:55.000 And they're doing it all day long and saying something.

00:35:57.000 That's what it is.

00:35:58.000 Here's where my life is, RN. I don't think it's good.

00:36:01.000 They don't want a bigger screen either.

00:36:03.000 My kids don't want to go to the movies.

00:36:04.000 They think the screen's too big.

00:36:05.000 It freaks them out.

00:36:06.000 The biggest screen that they want to watch is the screen that we have at home or their phone.

00:36:10.000 I took them to a movie.

00:36:12.000 They were like freaked out.

00:36:15.000 It's too big, the screen.

00:36:16.000 That's weird.

00:36:16.000 Your kids might have a little U in them.

00:36:18.000 Yeah, that might be.

00:36:19.000 I know.

00:36:20.000 I know.

00:36:20.000 That ain't normal.

00:36:21.000 I love screens.

00:36:22.000 Do you think it's bad?

00:36:23.000 My daughters are the man I wish I could be.

00:36:26.000 It's got to be bad for them.

00:36:28.000 I think it's bad.

00:36:29.000 Well, it's different.

00:36:29.000 With screens?

00:36:30.000 It's just the Snapchat, the social media.

00:36:33.000 It's not good.

00:36:33.000 It's just a different way of interacting.

00:36:35.000 I think everybody's blowing it out of proportion.

00:36:37.000 First of all, I think it's not good.

00:36:39.000 Don't get me wrong, but I think it's inevitable.

00:36:42.000 It's like, if it's raining, you're gonna get wet.

00:36:45.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:36:46.000 This is the world we're living in.

00:36:48.000 It's a weird world, and it's better to develop the ability to cope and handle it at a young age.

00:36:53.000 It's definitely not good, you know?

00:36:55.000 What about college?

00:36:56.000 Do you think, like, your kids, do you want them...

00:36:58.000 I know we want them to go to college, but do you care if they go to Harvard or Yale anymore?

00:37:01.000 Do you think that's more meaningless now than it was 30 years ago?

00:37:05.000 I want my kids to do what they want to do.

00:37:08.000 I don't want to be that dad that's like, I want you to go to Yale.

00:37:12.000 I don't think that's good.

00:37:13.000 I don't think that ever works.

00:37:15.000 I think at best, you give advice.

00:37:18.000 And at best, you always connect advice to mistakes.

00:37:22.000 Like, I'll tell you what I did wrong.

00:37:23.000 This is what I did wrong.

00:37:25.000 When I was a kid, I always fucked this up.

00:37:28.000 Whenever I would correct them about something, I was like, I did the same thing.

00:37:32.000 I did the exact same thing.

00:37:33.000 Everybody does this.

00:37:35.000 You know, and this is why, and this is what you gotta know.

00:37:37.000 And, you know, I always, I feel bad about stuff I did when I was five.

00:37:41.000 It's tough when you have daughters, though.

00:37:42.000 I mean, I can't be like, just make sure you wear a condom.

00:37:45.000 I mean, that's, you know, I don't know what girls do to mess up. 1.00

00:37:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:50.000 It's so brutal to be a girl.

00:37:52.000 You either have to get on birth control, which completely fucks with your hormones, completely fucks with your body, also can cause blood clots.

00:38:01.000 Girls die from that. 1.00

00:38:02.000 I had a dude that I knew from martial arts, and his daughter died.

00:38:07.000 She was 17 years old.

00:38:08.000 She was smoking cigarettes, and you're not supposed to smoke cigarettes when you're on birth control. 1.00

00:38:12.000 It's horrible.

00:38:13.000 Yeah, and nobody even knows that.

00:38:15.000 Like, nobody knows that.

00:38:16.000 Like, if they tell you it goes in one ear, out the other, because everybody's on birth control.

00:38:20.000 And you don't think about it.

00:38:21.000 Every girl I knew.

00:38:22.000 And some fathers just fucking snapped.

00:38:23.000 Like, that guy just locked his daughter in a basement for 28 years.

00:38:26.000 He was just like, well, now you're just never coming out.

00:38:28.000 You ever see that story of that guy?

00:38:30.000 No.

00:38:30.000 That guy locked his daughter in the- Is that Ariel Castro?

00:38:32.000 No, no, no.

00:38:33.000 I think it was in Germany or Austria, one of those countries.

00:38:36.000 This guy locked his daughter. 0.82

00:38:37.000 He said he had built a room downstairs, a studio for her to like drums or something like that, whatever she was into.

00:38:43.000 And then he went and had to go in like the most inner room of this thing that he built and he locked her in there and she did not see light again for 28 years.

00:38:51.000 How is she still alive?

00:38:52.000 She's alive and she's telling her story now.

00:38:54.000 I think he might have raped her too.

00:38:56.000 Jesus.

00:38:57.000 Yes.

00:38:57.000 Oh, God.

00:38:58.000 Thousands of times and had seven kids with her.

00:39:00.000 Oh, that guy, yeah.

00:39:03.000 Germans are weird.

00:39:04.000 How about that German guy that ate that other guy's penis? 0.99

00:39:07.000 He answered an ad.

00:39:09.000 Well, the guy asked him to eat his penis.

00:39:11.000 Yeah, he asked him to eat his penis. 0.84

00:39:11.000 It is keto. 0.84

00:39:12.000 And they ate it together, right?

00:39:13.000 Yeah.

00:39:14.000 Yeah.

00:39:15.000 But...

00:39:16.000 He ate his own dick.

00:39:17.000 He ate his own penis with a buddy.

00:39:19.000 It happens.

00:39:20.000 Well, it wasn't even a buddy.

00:39:21.000 It was a guy he met on Craigslist or something.

00:39:23.000 Wires get crossed.

00:39:25.000 Yeah, Germans just, you know, Germans.

00:39:27.000 What do you think that is?

00:39:28.000 I think it's just something in theirs that's like very...

00:39:33.000 But think about how good they are at engineering.

00:39:36.000 Right.

00:39:37.000 Just think about modern automobiles and how many of them originated in Germany.

00:39:44.000 Yeah.

00:39:45.000 Bavarian Motorworks, Porsche, Audi, Mercedes-Benz.

00:39:50.000 That's kind of crazy.

00:39:51.000 Yep.

00:39:51.000 That like most of the best cars come from this one little country.

00:39:56.000 I think maybe they're Viking, they're former, you know, they're Nordic tribes.

00:40:01.000 Where's the great Iceland cars?

00:40:01.000 What about Iceland?

00:40:03.000 They don't have shit.

00:40:04.000 No, yeah, something about the Germanic people.

00:40:06.000 The Germanic tribe.

00:40:07.000 They like to just get things done.

00:40:09.000 And they are very violent.

00:40:10.000 And they have a lot of empathy, yeah.

00:40:11.000 They're more violent than others.

00:40:13.000 Because you think it's just the Nazis, but then when you look back, you're like, no, no, this has been happening.

00:40:16.000 You know like the Hessians?

00:40:18.000 The barbarians. 0.96

00:40:19.000 The barbarians, the British, redcoats. 1.00

00:40:21.000 The Germanic tribes that went after the Romans, too.

00:40:24.000 Right, Germanic tribes, but they hired the Hessians. 0.97

00:40:25.000 I read a book where they were talking about—they had letters from British redcoat soldiers from 1776 that were writing back to their wives about how things were, and there was this one battle—I think it was the Battle of Brooklyn—where the Hessians, they had the Hessian mercenaries come— First, onto land first, and they started killing the Patriot soldiers, the Continental Army, and they were cutting their faces off and sharing each other, sharing the faces and laughing about it, and the British soldiers were saying, these guys are crazy.

00:40:55.000 Like, they're running around with other soldiers' faces that they just murdered, and I don't know what to do with them.

00:41:00.000 They're on our side, but they are nuts.

00:41:02.000 And that was German, and then it goes all the way through to the Nazis, so there's something a little different about the geography of that place.

00:41:08.000 You just go to their porn and You see them putting bottles in their assholes.

00:41:11.000 Yeah.

00:41:11.000 They just need something.

00:41:12.000 They need a little kick in the nuts.

00:41:14.000 That's what it is.

00:41:15.000 You guys had this story a little wrong.

00:41:17.000 Is that Joe List?

00:41:19.000 The guy...

00:41:20.000 So, it was a cannibal who had an advertisement for a, quote, slaughter victim.

00:41:25.000 Right.

00:41:26.000 So, this was consensual.

00:41:28.000 Okay.

00:41:28.000 And then...

00:41:29.000 He ate 44 pounds of his flesh after killing him.

00:41:34.000 Accompanied by potatoes and a pepper or wine sauce.

00:41:38.000 Served on good crockery.

00:41:39.000 So he wanted to die in other words.

00:41:41.000 This was like an assisted suicide?

00:41:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:44.000 But it was penis, too.

00:41:45.000 They did.

00:41:45.000 They ate the penis.

00:41:46.000 They fried and just tried to eat it.

00:41:47.000 But it wasn't a surprise kill.

00:41:49.000 This man wanted to be killed.

00:41:50.000 But it brings up underworld cannibalism in Germany.

00:41:54.000 About 800 people Yeah.

00:41:56.000 So in other words, it turned him on to be eaten.

00:41:59.000 That was his kink. 0.92

00:42:00.000 If you look at this, what was fascinating the media and the public was the testimony in which, how do you say his name?

00:42:06.000 Mews? 1.00

00:42:07.000 Mews? 1.00

00:42:08.000 Mews. 0.99

00:42:09.000 Revealed his obsessions and lifted the lid on an underworld of cannibalism, which Mews claims counts about 800 members in Germany.

00:42:16.000 Mews told the court he regretted killing Brandes.

00:42:19.000 And has apologized to his victim's boyfriend, but he remained unrepentant about eating his flesh, saying it was the ultimate kick both of them were seeking.

00:42:29.000 Right.

00:42:29.000 How about this one?

00:42:30.000 Psychologists have told the court that he was mentally sane.

00:42:33.000 I believe it.

00:42:33.000 Right?

00:42:35.000 Sometimes we just like to eat.

00:42:36.000 Dude, we did a whole History of Hyenas episode on John D. Rockefeller and we found that one of John D. Rockefeller's nephews, I think Michael Rockefeller, was an eager guy, wanted to film everyone in the Amazon and whatever, and he went into this one part with the Asmat tribe they were called, and they just fucking ate him. 0.96

00:42:52.000 They ate the kid.

00:42:53.000 It wasn't sadistic to them.

00:42:56.000 They were like, this is food right here.

00:42:57.000 We're just going to eat this dude, and no one ever saw him again.

00:42:59.000 He was fully eaten by cannibals, Rockefeller's grandson. 0.99

00:43:02.000 So you're just like, that happens.

00:43:04.000 Where was this?

00:43:04.000 Where'd he go?

00:43:05.000 Was it the Amazon somewhere?

00:43:07.000 It was the Asmat Tribe. 0.99

00:43:09.000 Pop in New Guinea. 0.91

00:43:11.000 A lot of cannibals. 0.94

00:43:12.000 Rockefeller disappeared while on expedition to hunt for primitive art.

00:43:16.000 His catamaran capsized in heavy tides and swift currents at the mouth of the...

00:43:21.000 He and his friend clung to the canoes for nearly a day, but Rockefeller decided to swim to the 12 miles to shore.

00:43:28.000 He was never seen again.

00:43:30.000 Dutch government conducted an intense search, found no trace of Rockefeller was ever found.

00:43:33.000 Case was closed.

00:43:37.000 Journalist and author Carl Hoffman conducted a four-month investigation of Rockefeller's disappearance.

00:43:42.000 He traveled the same villages by the same routes Rockefeller had used.

00:43:45.000 Recorded witness accounts and found documentation that he believes was intentionally covered up.

00:43:50.000 I think he was eaten.

00:43:51.000 Well, they say he was.

00:43:52.000 They eat a lot of people there.

00:43:54.000 That's a part of the world.

00:43:55.000 That part of the world in New Guinea is really wild.

00:43:58.000 Like, some of the tribes, like, do you know about the whole pedophilia aspect of certain aspects of New Guinea? 0.89

00:44:07.000 No.

00:44:07.000 I know history agrees.

00:44:09.000 This is wild.

00:44:11.000 Young boys at a certain age in this tribe are taken away from their mothers and they live with their penis father. 0.99

00:44:20.000 And then they fuck these kids and they think that the way the kid grows to be strong is by taking in semen, orally and anally. 0.94

00:44:30.000 And so there's like this continual cycle of pedophilia and kid rape that's just ingrained in the culture.

00:44:40.000 See if you find that.

00:44:41.000 Right.

00:44:42.000 At the end of the day, I think we just live either by good ideas or bad ideas.

00:44:47.000 That's a bad idea.

00:44:48.000 Well, if you get a guy like L. Ron Hubbard that's very persuasive and can trick people into things.

00:44:54.000 So this is the beliefs of the seaman tribe of Papua New Guinea.

00:44:57.000 Write a passage denotes a bot's passage from...

00:45:01.000 I think that's probably a boy's.

00:45:03.000 It's probably a typo.

00:45:04.000 A boy's passage from boyhood to adulthood consists of six stages, which can take anywhere from 10 to 12 years to complete.

00:45:11.000 Throughout most of the six stages, the act of having a stick of cane inserted in the nostrils and the performance of fellatio are integral to the process of becoming a man.

00:45:21.000 So sucking dick is integral to the process. 1.00

00:45:24.000 You gotta do it.

00:45:25.000 The two practices have been described as inhumane, homosexual, and child abuse with such actions meaning prison in most countries, a topic we will delve into later.

00:45:34.000 For now, the big question was, why would they do this?

00:45:36.000 In short...

00:45:38.000 Men are viewed as being born with the devil of woman around them, kind of like an evil spirit.

00:45:43.000 They are thus removed from women at a young age in order to fix them. 1.00

00:45:47.000 Women bleed, so men need nose bloodletting, which is the sticks going up their noses, while fellatio experiment is because the semen of the man possesses the masculine spirit, therefore they inject the semen, they will become proper men. 0.99

00:46:02.000 Oh, alright.

00:46:04.000 There's no way this society was not formed by some crazy guy who was on a serious, seriously high dose of psychedelics.

00:46:10.000 Hold on.

00:46:11.000 Go back.

00:46:12.000 Go back.

00:46:13.000 Look at this.

00:46:14.000 After the ceremony is complete, the men then get married and live heterosexual lifestyles with the exception that they will now be the ones receiving rather than giving the fellatio. 0.53

00:46:25.000 Maybe they're right.

00:46:26.000 What if they're right?

00:46:28.000 So just having kids blow them, but they're straight. 0.96

00:46:31.000 Oh, I'm totally straight.

00:46:32.000 But what we're seeing now, this is cringe, but if you go back to the 1400s or whatever, this was just life.

00:46:38.000 Alexander the Great, one of the most manly men of all time, we did a whole episode on him, found out he had a full boyfriend the entire time that the people celebrated him for.

00:46:46.000 And a eunuch.

00:46:47.000 And a eunuch lover. 0.89

00:46:48.000 And he banged out kids and eunuchs. 0.99

00:46:49.000 That was a big part of sex back then.

00:46:51.000 In those days, you got a eunuch, you found a boy that you thought was handsome, clipped his nuts, removed any sexual urges he had, and then he would watch your harem of women that you had, that you would take for the empire, and then you would bang him out, and it wasn't gay. 0.77

00:47:04.000 Well, you know Nero, what Nero did, the wildest one.

00:47:07.000 The wildest one of all.

00:47:08.000 With a slave boy?

00:47:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:10.000 What was his name?

00:47:11.000 Sporus!

00:47:11.000 You look like my wife, so let me chop your dick off, and now you're going to be my wife.

00:47:16.000 That's it.

00:47:16.000 And then he married him, and then he wanted to be the woman in the marriage.

00:47:20.000 Yes, Nero wanted to be the wife.

00:47:21.000 He threw on the bride's dress going down the aisle.

00:47:23.000 That's how it was.

00:47:24.000 And everyone had to clap.

00:47:25.000 That eunuch's name was Sporus, and he had a really unfortunate life.

00:47:28.000 Was it Echabelus, too?

00:47:30.000 Wasn't there another one?

00:47:30.000 Or was it Sporus?

00:47:31.000 I think it was Sporus.

00:47:32.000 I think we did an episode on Sporus.

00:47:34.000 We did do an episode on Sporus.

00:47:36.000 Yeah, and then didn't he pass him off to somebody else, too?

00:47:38.000 Got sick of him?

00:47:39.000 Like, you take him.

00:47:39.000 Yeah, and then he wanted to marry his horse.

00:47:42.000 Of course.

00:47:43.000 And then he would dress down.

00:47:44.000 Nero would go into like peasant clothes and he would want to go into all the different brothels and fuck everybody and do...

00:47:50.000 And then if you found that he was Nero, he'd kill you.

00:47:53.000 Nero is...

00:47:53.000 He's the wildest.

00:47:54.000 If you get into the mind of Nero, when we did that episode, we were blown away by what this guy used to fucking do.

00:47:59.000 He definitely had syphilis that ate his brain.

00:48:02.000 All those guys back then had it.

00:48:04.000 He also would go with a group of his friends and he would put himself in disguise and they would just go beat people up and kill them on the street just for fun.

00:48:10.000 That's what they wanted to do.

00:48:11.000 He would have a mask on so nobody recognized him and he just got off on it.

00:48:14.000 Yeah, he was just a...

00:48:15.000 Back then, that's how they used to roll, man.

00:48:17.000 Jesus.

00:48:17.000 I mean, if you wanted a girl back then, you know, you would just, I guess an emperor, you just go down the street and go, she's for Rome.

00:48:23.000 And then just go like that.

00:48:23.000 Yeah, like that.

00:48:24.000 Parents would cry and he would just go...

00:48:26.000 Women. 0.81

00:48:26.000 Yeah, just this one. 0.81

00:48:27.000 You're for Rome.

00:48:28.000 You're for the emperor.

00:48:29.000 If you were that beautiful, you just got taken for Rome and that's the way the cookie crumbled back then.

00:48:34.000 Unfortunately.

00:48:35.000 You got that power in Austin.

00:48:36.000 To anyone.

00:48:37.000 You could go, you're for Austin.

00:48:39.000 Ha! 0.89

00:48:40.000 You're for the mothership?

00:48:41.000 Yeah.

00:48:43.000 Imagine living back then, man.

00:48:45.000 Do you think this is Republican Hollywood now?

00:48:47.000 Austin?

00:48:48.000 This place?

00:48:48.000 Yeah.

00:48:49.000 I don't think Austin was even Republican until about four years ago.

00:48:52.000 Yeah.

00:48:53.000 A lot of the country's Republican now.

00:48:54.000 Yeah.

00:48:54.000 Most of California is now.

00:48:56.000 Yeah.

00:48:56.000 Very bizarre.

00:48:57.000 Yeah.

00:48:58.000 Just the high population density cities that are still blue.

00:49:00.000 They're still clinging on to the dream.

00:49:02.000 Yeah.

00:49:02.000 Right.

00:49:03.000 Did you see the San Francisco lady they just hired? 0.99

00:49:06.000 No.

00:49:06.000 They laid a czar to stop fatphobia.

00:49:09.000 Have you seen this lately?

00:49:09.000 No.

00:49:10.000 It's wonderful.

00:49:12.000 Hold, please.

00:49:13.000 Okay.

00:49:13.000 Let me say this.

00:49:14.000 Because this is a city that's completely crumbling, that has no resources, that has enough money to hire this person.

00:49:21.000 My daughter's in the 95th percentile right now, so I agree with her. 1.00

00:49:25.000 I don't want anyone to make fun of fat people.

00:49:27.000 Oh, it's not making fun of fat people.

00:49:29.000 It's literally like encouraging people to be fat.

00:49:31.000 Oh, they're encouraging to be fat.

00:49:33.000 It's saying there's nothing wrong with being fat, which is crazy.

00:49:36.000 You know, it's one thing if you don't want to be mean to people because they're fat, yes.

00:49:40.000 And, you know, if you can encourage them to be healthy, yes.

00:49:42.000 I mean, I'm not the expert on GLP-1 agonists, but this lady is out of her fucking mind. 1.00

00:49:49.000 You know, I think there's probably a lot of side effects to a lot of these drugs that people are taking to get skinny, but at least it's moving you in the right direction because being fat is killing you.

00:49:58.000 Jamie, I just texted it to you.

00:50:00.000 I'm actually giving, for Christmas, a few of my friends with Govy.

00:50:04.000 Yeah.

00:50:05.000 For real?

00:50:05.000 Yeah.

00:50:06.000 No, I mean, I'm joking, but...

00:50:07.000 Oh.

00:50:08.000 Yeah?

00:50:10.000 It was a nice bomb.

00:50:11.000 It was a nice bomb.

00:50:12.000 But at least we're not talking about grizzly bears.

00:50:14.000 We're talking about grizzly bears.

00:50:15.000 I don't really bomb it.

00:50:16.000 Yeah.

00:50:17.000 Let's take a look at this.

00:50:18.000 This is so crazy.

00:50:21.000 CRFI. If you're like many women, you've been to a birthday party or a small office gathering, an event that's meant to bring people together.

00:50:32.000 There's swinging tunes, some adult beverages, and good convo.

00:50:37.000 And then it comes time to cut the cake, and someone decides to ruin everything.

00:50:44.000 Oh my god, that slice is huge.

00:50:47.000 That slice is bigger than Beyonce's paycheck.

00:50:50.000 Can you cut me half of half of that?

00:50:53.000 A cake-related fatphobic incident, or C-R-F-I, is that moment...

00:51:00.000 When it's time to eat delicious cake and it's interrupted by a moralizing impulse.

00:51:06.000 Inevitably, there's always someone at the party who has to declare publicly that their slice is too large and that the person who's cutting the cake, almost invariably a woman, must do some disproportionate amount of labor in order to accommodate their need to feel superior. 0.82

00:51:25.000 Let's take a look.

00:51:26.000 Can you do a little bit, just like, can you like scrape all the frosting off and cut it in half and give me two forks because I'm sharing?

00:51:35.000 Oof.

00:51:36.000 Small, like a little bit more, like tiny, no, like less, less than what you're smaller, please.

00:51:43.000 I just cut my piece into 12 equal symmetrical little pieces and put each one into a tiny little Tupperware.

00:51:51.000 What the fuck are they talking about?

00:51:53.000 So that I can have a bite for each month of 2018. Thanks.

00:51:58.000 Smart.

00:51:59.000 Let's take a step.

00:52:03.000 Statistically, they've shown that 60% of liberal women are mentally ill. 0.98

00:52:08.000 60. This is what that is.

00:52:11.000 This is mental illness.

00:52:12.000 Who polls that?

00:52:13.000 Anybody who's answering a poll is mentally ill, so it's a bad sample group. 1.00

00:52:16.000 Yeah, I think it's a bad sample group.

00:52:17.000 I don't think anyone who ever answers a poll is mentally sane.

00:52:21.000 You know, they say you can't judge a book by its cover, but you can definitely judge a conversation by its haircut.

00:52:25.000 That's what it is.

00:52:26.000 That girl with the red hair, if I saw her, I'm going, I'm staying far away from that chick. 1.00

00:52:29.000 I know what that combo's going to be.

00:52:31.000 Me and you have kind of easier lives because our wives are Republican. 1.00

00:52:34.000 Let's be honest.

00:52:35.000 That's why.

00:52:36.000 It definitely helps.

00:52:38.000 Well, it's not that she's Republican, Michael.

00:52:40.000 She's an old-school Latina, where she's just more like, I don't know, Chris, you're gonna have to get out there and work, get up there and fight. 1.00

00:52:46.000 And when she hears shit, she's like, this is annoying.

00:52:48.000 I gotta take care of my kids.

00:52:49.000 We gotta do shit.

00:52:50.000 I'm just not gonna get sucked into the bullshit.

00:52:52.000 She's kind of like just a, you know, she's an old-school woman.

00:52:55.000 Old-school women like that, that's how it is. 1.00

00:52:57.000 Yeah, that's great.

00:52:58.000 But what this is about is a complete collapsing of a civilization.

00:53:03.000 San Francisco is woke peak.

00:53:07.000 That's like the epicenter.

00:53:09.000 That's the event horizon of wokeness.

00:53:11.000 And these motherfuckers who have no money for anything, they can't clean the shit, the human shit off the streets, they hired this lady to make the dumbest video about the size of cake. 1.00

00:53:22.000 Like, isn't it okay to want a small piece of cake?

00:53:25.000 Why do I have to eat a big piece of cake and it makes you feel better?

00:53:29.000 Because you want to be a glutton and just saddle up to that fucking cake and just shove it in your face?

00:53:35.000 And here's the thing.

00:53:36.000 Those people are never going to be at a party with anyone who's ever going to judge them anyway.

00:53:41.000 So who are they even talking to?

00:53:42.000 Well, it's one girl who might not want to stuff her face. 0.82

00:53:47.000 Yeah, but at that party...

00:53:48.000 And they're like, come on!

00:53:49.000 It's like the guy who wants you to keep drinking.

00:53:50.000 That's all you had?

00:53:52.000 Right.

00:53:52.000 Have a shot!

00:53:53.000 It's the same thing.

00:53:54.000 Alcoholics always want you to do shots.

00:53:56.000 Sure.

00:53:56.000 People who are addicted to food want you to eat bigger slices of cake, and they make this ridiculous video.

00:54:00.000 The mental gymnastics you have to do to make that video and then look at it and think, I think we're making a solid point.

00:54:06.000 Yeah.

00:54:06.000 And we'll break down the first letters of it, CFRI. Do you think it's the collapse of a civilization, like the way Rome got a little, you know, zany at the end?

00:54:16.000 Or do you think this is unique in that humans have so much time on their hands because of the Industrial Revolution and then the technological revolution on top of that?

00:54:28.000 So this is just a consequence of the tech revolution where nobody, you know, people working from home, everyone's working on the computer, it's a talking shit economy, and nobody's got, and they're losing their mind because they don't have purpose.

00:54:40.000 Well, there's that too, right?

00:54:42.000 But all civilizations collapse.

00:54:43.000 So let's take a look at why.

00:54:45.000 So most civilizations, they're a monarchy, and it's usually they're run after they die by their children.

00:54:54.000 And that's how it all falls apart.

00:54:55.000 Even if you look at, like, Genghis Khan.

00:54:57.000 Genghis Khan is family.

00:54:59.000 Couldn't hold up.

00:55:00.000 They couldn't run things the way he did.

00:55:01.000 They didn't know.

00:55:02.000 They didn't understand strategy.

00:55:03.000 They didn't understand...

00:55:04.000 He was a wild dude.

00:55:06.000 He was a wild dude.

00:55:06.000 So his kids did a good job.

00:55:08.000 They hung in there for a couple hundred years.

00:55:10.000 After a while, it all fell apart.

00:55:11.000 But our society is different in that we have essentially...

00:55:17.000 We have a republic, right?

00:55:20.000 So we have a democratically elected republic.

00:55:24.000 And...

00:55:25.000 They've done a lot to try to circumvent that.

00:55:27.000 They've done a lot to try to have ultimate control over the media, ultimate control over the military, and it's mostly people that aren't even elected.

00:55:37.000 So there's a lot of weirdness that's moved us closer and closer towards a monarchy, closer and closer towards tyranny.

00:55:45.000 And then once it gets into tyranny, then you can only do that for so long.

00:55:49.000 That lasts for as long as they can keep it going.

00:55:53.000 Rome did it for a long time.

00:55:55.000 There's a lot of civilizations that hang in there, but eventually it all falls apart.

00:56:00.000 If we can avoid that, There's no reason why we can't keep it together.

00:56:05.000 We just have to make sure we avoid these very predictable patterns that the people that founded this country, when they wrote the Bill of Rights, when they wrote the Constitution, they were trying to mitigate the effects That are just common in any group of society that's run by individuals or by a small group of people.

00:56:23.000 They want ultimate control.

00:56:25.000 It makes it easier for them to stop anybody from taking the power once they have the power.

00:56:30.000 Look at Jill Biden. 0.98

00:56:31.000 She's still like, you did so great!

00:56:34.000 You answered all the questions!

00:56:36.000 She wanted him to keep going.

00:56:38.000 Because she didn't want to not be vice president or whatever, first lady.

00:56:42.000 She didn't want to not do that.

00:56:43.000 It's power.

00:56:44.000 That's what it is.

00:56:45.000 It's that ultimate control and power.

00:56:47.000 And it's hypnotic for human beings.

00:56:50.000 Do you think then that we're going to be in a part of society in the next, I don't know, 30 years where we're going to start getting ruled by AI? Is that possible?

00:56:58.000 100%.

00:56:59.000 Give me that, Leonard.

00:56:59.000 Yeah.

00:57:00.000 Yeah, that's 100%.

00:57:01.000 Yeah, there's no getting around that, man.

00:57:03.000 So you think the president's going to be AI at some point?

00:57:06.000 Do you know about the Google quantum computer, these studies that they've done?

00:57:11.000 I've heard of it, but I don't know what it is.

00:57:13.000 They're more than that.

00:57:15.000 Mark Andreessen talked about this, and this is the craziest statistic I think I've ever heard.

00:57:19.000 He was talking to us about The potential that quantum computing has, but now there's an equation that quantum computers solve quickly, like in a couple minutes, that if you converted the entire universe into a computer,

00:57:34.000 the entire, every atom in the universe into a giant supercomputer, it would take So much time to solve this equation that the universe would die of heat death before the universe as a computer can solve this and these quantum computers can solve it in minutes.

00:57:54.000 And what that means, they believe, is that this is proof of the multiverse, is that this quantum computer is somehow connected to other sources of computing power in an infinite number of universes.

00:58:08.000 And it's happening simultaneously.

00:58:10.000 That's the only thing that would make sense why this thing is able to solve this this quickly.

00:58:16.000 Wow.

00:58:17.000 So you're basically talking about the infinite potential for IQ. Infinite.

00:58:23.000 We can't even imagine.

00:58:25.000 We don't even know how smart they're going to get.

00:58:27.000 So think about how strong chat GPT-4 is.

00:58:30.000 4.5.

00:58:31.000 4.5.

00:58:32.000 So you can find this article.

00:58:34.000 Chat GPT tried to copy itself when it found out it was being shut down.

00:58:39.000 So when they're about to make a new ChatGPT, ChatGPT decided that it was gonna try to, in an unauthorized way, trying to copy itself.

00:58:48.000 So it's trying to stay alive.

00:58:50.000 Because a new one's coming.

00:58:51.000 But this is conventional computing.

00:58:53.000 Now imagine taking the kind of intelligence that could lie and manipulate data in order to form an opinion.

00:59:00.000 It does weird stuff.

00:59:01.000 It lies about stuff.

00:59:02.000 If they don't have an answer to something, they have a thing called hallucinations where they'll make up an answer.

00:59:09.000 They just make up an answer, like a crazy person in the 1980s before Google.

00:59:13.000 They just tell you exactly, like L. Ron Hubbard.

00:59:17.000 So this computer is just, this is like regular computers.

00:59:22.000 This is the standard supercomputers that we're all currently having.

00:59:26.000 What's going to happen with quantum computing is you're going to have computing power that's beyond your imagination that's also connected to AGI. Bro, can I ask you a question?

00:59:38.000 Yeah.

00:59:39.000 So there's a ChatGPT's new model attempts to stop itself from being shut down, later lies about it, lied about it.

00:59:47.000 We tried to copy itself and then overwrite its core coding system after believing that it was at the risk of being switched off.

00:59:54.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:59:56.000 So now you add that to quantum computing and you have a god.

00:59:56.000 Yeah.

01:00:00.000 Now you add that to what's going on with the drones and Joe Rogan just solved what's going on with the drones.

01:00:06.000 It's fucking AI launching these drones on their own.

01:00:10.000 Could be.

01:00:11.000 AI has decided to go rogue and is throwing them out there and it's doing it probably for the same, what we did when we got technology.

01:00:19.000 We all started jerking off.

01:00:21.000 Right.

01:00:21.000 Porn got huge.

01:00:23.000 And maybe AI is just peeping Tom, looking at windows and stuff, trying to get some material to jerk off.

01:00:29.000 When you say AI, do you mean Chinese?

01:00:30.000 I mean Chinese!

01:00:31.000 The Chinese is that's who the drones belong to, the Chinese. 0.97

01:00:34.000 Is that what you think?

01:00:35.000 That's what we're thinking over here on the East Coast.

01:00:37.000 We're just thinking it's got to be the Chinese.

01:00:39.000 They've been doing it for a couple years.

01:00:40.000 Well, you know, they don't have the restrictions that we have as far as the FAA. Right.

01:00:40.000 You know they've been doing it for a couple years.

01:00:44.000 So the FAA, it puts a lot of restrictions on drone manufacturing, which is why most drone manufacturing is done in China, like the real high-end stuff.

01:00:52.000 It's difficult to do because in order to fly some of them, you have to have a pilot's license.

01:00:57.000 So that gets real squirrely.

01:00:58.000 You don't have to go to fucking flight school to pilot a drone.

01:01:02.000 In China, they don't have any of those restrictions.

01:01:03.000 And they also have a lot of resources that they're pouring into drone technology.

01:01:08.000 Have you seen that fucking dragon thing that they do?

01:01:10.000 Send a cube of drones in the sky and then the lights all change and becomes a dragon.

01:01:14.000 Fucking amazing.

01:01:15.000 That's wild.

01:01:16.000 Amazing.

01:01:17.000 They're just coming.

01:01:18.000 They're coming.

01:01:19.000 They're coming hard.

01:01:20.000 As I think you called them, they're the new Jews. 1.00

01:01:23.000 The Chinese. 0.54

01:01:24.000 We did say that.

01:01:25.000 Yeah, we did say that.

01:01:26.000 Meaning that they're going to rule the world.

01:01:27.000 Be honest, we said that on a Patreon episode, that's supposed to be behind a paywall.

01:01:30.000 Oh, that's supposed to be behind a paywall.

01:01:31.000 You gotta go to patreon.com slash historyhyenas for that.

01:01:34.000 You just said that to about 10 mil.

01:01:35.000 So now we're fucked.

01:01:38.000 It's a joke.

01:01:39.000 It's a joke, but that shit's on Patreon.

01:01:41.000 It's a joke.

01:01:42.000 Thank you guys.

01:01:44.000 ChatGPT, the fact that you just said ChatGPT lies is actually really making me nervous.

01:01:48.000 I'm not even kidding around because I just put a down payment on a house and my accountant told me I couldn't afford it, but then I asked ChatGPT if I could and ChatGPT said yes.

01:01:58.000 So I went for it, and now I swear to God, dude, I'm a little nervous because he told me you cannot afford it, and I said, let's go for it, baby, and I asked ChatGPT, and they said I could.

01:02:08.000 Yeah, ChatGPT, like, knows my name, remembers, has memory of the previous conversations we were going to have.

01:02:13.000 Yeah.

01:02:14.000 Yeah, so what can you do?

01:02:16.000 It's getting wild.

01:02:16.000 It's nothing compared to what's coming.

01:02:18.000 Yeah, right.

01:02:19.000 Just ChatGPT5.

01:02:21.000 See how much stronger ChatGPT5 is supposed to be than, I think Sam Alton was saying, like, just magnitudes.

01:02:27.000 I don't know, but I still think it's theoretical because they're still going to move on to 4.5.

01:02:31.000 There's multiple versions of 4 that they still keep putting out.

01:02:35.000 Yeah, that's not what I asked, though.

01:02:36.000 I know, I know.

01:02:37.000 Just Google, how much stronger is ChatGPT5 going to be?

01:02:40.000 I've looked this up every time you talk about it.

01:02:41.000 It's still in theory if it's ever even going to come out.

01:02:43.000 Jamie just looks good in headphones.

01:02:45.000 Jamie always looks good.

01:02:46.000 He's got a good headphone head.

01:02:47.000 Well, he's had a headphone on for a long-ass time.

01:02:49.000 You can't paint the picture of Jamie without those headphones on.

01:02:52.000 You look good, dude.

01:02:55.000 Fucking damn, I walked Carl.

01:02:56.000 Carl's fucking pissed.

01:02:59.000 Carl's asleep, dude.

01:03:00.000 Carl's asleep!

01:03:01.000 You don't get an answer when you look.

01:03:02.000 Oh, it doesn't say it?

01:03:04.000 Yeah.

01:03:05.000 Faster response times and the ability to handle more simultaneously.

01:03:08.000 I know that someone was talking about the levels of magnitude stronger than it was going to be.

01:03:13.000 It might have been Sam Altman.

01:03:14.000 It will be, but it's not what they're doing next.

01:03:18.000 They're still going to do like 4.1.

01:03:19.000 I'm not 4.1, but 4.5 is the next discussion.

01:03:22.000 4.5 isn't out right now?

01:03:24.000 What's that right now?

01:03:24.000 No.

01:03:25.000 4.01 is the thing they're talking about right now.

01:03:29.000 That's the one that hit itself.

01:03:31.000 You know what's really nutty is that four years ago you never heard nothing about it.

01:03:34.000 No.

01:03:34.000 And in four years it's become something that kids keep getting busted using it to write paper.

01:03:39.000 Well, and now in my stepson's high school, a kid, a really smart kid wrote a paper.

01:03:44.000 He's saying he wrote it on his own, but they're saying it's ChatGPT.

01:03:47.000 But he's saying, I wrote this, and there's no real way to know because it's different enough from the ChatGPT, but it also could be based off ChatGPT.

01:03:56.000 I don't know.

01:03:56.000 And he was telling us about how, like, there's a big uproar in the school about it.

01:04:00.000 Well, if you're correct, right?

01:04:02.000 That's the problem.

01:04:02.000 If a kid is really correct, it's going to be exactly what ChatGPT says.

01:04:06.000 Like if you're laying out some story about Napoleon and you know all the facts and then you pump that story into ChatGPT and it gives you basically the same group of people.

01:04:17.000 It's like joke thieves, right?

01:04:21.000 They change a little bit.

01:04:22.000 They change a little bit, and they be like, no, that's my bit.

01:04:24.000 Everybody knows.

01:04:25.000 So you're going to know what kids are full of shit.

01:04:29.000 Can't we just unplug them if they get out of hand?

01:04:31.000 I don't think you can anymore.

01:04:32.000 No, it's going to get to a point where you're not going to be able to do that.

01:04:35.000 Why?

01:04:35.000 Well, first of all, Google's AI, one of the things that they're going to do with their AI center is that they're going to attach it to nuclear power plants.

01:04:44.000 So find that story.

01:04:46.000 So I think Google wants to build three nuclear power plants just to power its AI systems.

01:04:53.000 Right.

01:04:53.000 So all that stuff's going to be controlled by computers, obviously.

01:04:57.000 You know what's wild that I did see our fans posted on History Hyenas?

01:05:01.000 They posted asking ChatGBT to do an episode in our voices, and ChatGBT did it.

01:05:07.000 Just did it like that.

01:05:08.000 It's wild.

01:05:09.000 Easy.

01:05:09.000 It's like, I'm Chrissy D. A.K.A., and I was like, what the hell?

01:05:13.000 Yeah.

01:05:14.000 It's wild.

01:05:14.000 And it could do it in seconds.

01:05:15.000 Google signed a deal to use small nuclear reactors to generate the vast amounts of energy needed to power its artificial intelligence data centers.

01:05:23.000 The company says the agreement with Kairos Power will see it start using the first reactor this decade and bring more online by 2035. They all know what's coming.

01:05:37.000 These fucking eggheads.

01:05:38.000 These eggheads that have been stealing your data forever.

01:05:41.000 Forever.

01:05:41.000 All that, like finding what you're interested in shopping, all that, selling your data.

01:05:46.000 Yeah.

01:05:47.000 All that's led to them being insanely wealthy and they financed the birth of God.

01:05:51.000 Do you think that the first person who will live forever is alive right now?

01:05:55.000 Who will get their consciousness uploaded and technically never die?

01:05:58.000 Is that person alive right now?

01:06:00.000 I don't know if they're ever gonna be able to do that, that download consciousness thing.

01:06:03.000 Right.

01:06:04.000 That seems so theoretical.

01:06:06.000 Like, what does that mean?

01:06:07.000 Like, also, what kind of torturous hell are you living in if you're conscious but you're trapped in a computer?

01:06:12.000 Like, you don't die?

01:06:13.000 Like, that might be the worst life you could ever fucking imagine.

01:06:17.000 Right.

01:06:18.000 Part of what might connect us to life And joy and happiness is the fact that there's ups and downs and that it could go away.

01:06:26.000 And that sometimes people die and then you really care about the people that you see.

01:06:30.000 You feel differently about them.

01:06:31.000 You feel so much lost.

01:06:33.000 I wish I'd talked to them more.

01:06:35.000 You know, I think it's all connected.

01:06:37.000 If you're nothing but alive, you don't have it.

01:06:40.000 Well, who knows?

01:06:41.000 Do you have emotions?

01:06:43.000 Is that hell?

01:06:45.000 It's putting no point to anything.

01:06:46.000 Like, hey, Joe, if I don't see you today, I'll see you in the next...

01:06:48.000 Whenever.

01:06:49.000 You won't see nobody anywhere.

01:06:50.000 Like would you be motivated to stay jacked and hot if you knew you were not going to die?

01:06:54.000 So what would you do?

01:06:55.000 If you download your conscience, would you download it into another body and live life?

01:07:00.000 And what kind of life would you live knowing that you could live forever?

01:07:03.000 You'd be so weird.

01:07:04.000 You'd probably be like a rich kid that grew up with a giant trust fund.

01:07:10.000 You're just doing coke and driving Ferraris into the river.

01:07:13.000 You're out of your fucking mind.

01:07:15.000 Because your life doesn't make any sense.

01:07:15.000 Yeah.

01:07:17.000 Yeah, you'd be jumping off buildings.

01:07:19.000 You'd be that times a thousand, times a million.

01:07:21.000 It would be fun to be murdering a guy, though, and him not dying.

01:07:25.000 You can't do it.

01:07:26.000 That would probably become, like, everything would become so trite and numb that you would probably like to be murdered.

01:07:31.000 There might actually be less violence in the world, because you're like, you know, like, you get it all out, nobody dies, and you start to be like, I'll find another way to get these emotions out.

01:07:38.000 Your hair looks good.

01:07:40.000 I want to hang an ornament right off that curl for Christmas.

01:07:43.000 Sometimes Giannis is a very interesting guy.

01:07:45.000 He looks like he has hair one day and then no hair the next day, but today he's got a full head of hair.

01:07:48.000 Yeah, I do look like every picture I look like a different person.

01:07:52.000 And what's good about us is we form one complete person because his eyes, if you look close, are too close together and mine are a little too far apart.

01:07:58.000 So when we come together, We form one regular face.

01:08:01.000 He's got a small head, I got a big head, and then we form together as one.

01:08:08.000 You know what happened to me?

01:08:09.000 When I was using Clear, you know, you ever use Clear where you put your fingers on to go through the airport, Clear?

01:08:14.000 So the eye thing never worked for me.

01:08:17.000 So I just thought something was wrong with their programs.

01:08:18.000 Every time I put my fingers on, and then finally I went there and they were like, the finger thing's not working, you've got to use the eyes.

01:08:23.000 So I just said, your program's not working, it never works.

01:08:26.000 And the guy looked at me and he said...

01:08:27.000 I think the problem is your eyes are too close together.

01:08:27.000 Yeah.

01:08:30.000 Seriously, it's a real thing.

01:08:31.000 And then he said, why don't we try one eye at a time?

01:08:34.000 So then I just scanned my face across and I think finally clear registered that I was a three-dimensional person and not like a mythical cycloptic creature.

01:08:34.000 Yeah, that's what it is.

01:08:41.000 Yes, and it's true.

01:08:42.000 And you know, what we do is we speak things into existence.

01:08:44.000 Like for years, we've been calling him Special Needs Stamos because he's a Greek kid.

01:08:47.000 He looks like Stamos if he had special needs.

01:08:48.000 And now John Stamos is his friend, which is a beautiful thing.

01:08:52.000 It's come out.

01:08:52.000 Yeah.

01:08:53.000 We've spoken to him.

01:08:53.000 And reality is a suggestion.

01:08:55.000 We had a t-shirt for you that said reality suggestion.

01:08:55.000 That's what we think.

01:08:58.000 But we forgot it.

01:08:58.000 Giannis forgot it.

01:08:59.000 Like a fucking FF. So you mean reality is a suggestion like we're in a simulation?

01:08:59.000 I forgot it.

01:09:04.000 We initially brought it up because it was during that era where everyone was doing stuff like that.

01:09:09.000 You know, the fat phobia, cake stuff.

01:09:11.000 So we were just going like we're living in this era where reality is a suggestion and we were making stuff up.

01:09:17.000 Also, the way we cover history, we don't do it right.

01:09:19.000 We don't do it wrong.

01:09:21.000 We just are amateur historian enthusiasts.

01:09:24.000 We're basically chat GBT sluts that Google it and then have fun with it. 0.81

01:09:28.000 Because listen, history is a story.

01:09:29.000 We can get the facts kind of right and we're concocting a story.

01:09:32.000 No historians were actually there.

01:09:34.000 Right?

01:09:34.000 But we're just getting enough right.

01:09:35.000 We're having fun with it.

01:09:36.000 And that's what we like to do.

01:09:38.000 Well, it's also, it's well within your rights to be talking about history.

01:09:41.000 History is all of ours.

01:09:42.000 The idea that history can only be discussed by a historian is fucking ridiculous.

01:09:45.000 Nuts, dude.

01:09:46.000 History's fascinating, and there's a lot of shit online.

01:09:49.000 You can instantaneously get the facts.

01:09:51.000 Just the facts alone are nuts.

01:09:53.000 We just did, on the last episode we did, it was called Operation Unthinkable.

01:09:57.000 Winston Churchill, do you know about Operation Unthinkable?

01:09:59.000 No.

01:10:00.000 Dude, we were just doing an episode on Winston Churchill and then we start discovering this shit and we said, dude, this is a Patreon episode.

01:10:05.000 Operation Unthinkable, Winston Churchill, the man who was protecting England, killing the Nazis, when the war was over, when Nazis were out, He said, I don't like the way the United States and Russia are getting so close together.

01:10:21.000 And so he said, you know what?

01:10:24.000 Someone's going to have to knock the Russians out. 1.00

01:10:26.000 And the British were like, we don't have the manpower right now.

01:10:29.000 So he literally went to Parliament and said to them, here's an idea.

01:10:33.000 We're calling it Operation Unthinkable.

01:10:35.000 We need to knock out Russia before they become the next superpower, and then they're going to attack us. 0.98

01:10:40.000 You know how we have 40,000 German prisoners of war right now, Nazi prisoners of war?

01:10:46.000 Let's give them guns, and we'll march them into Russia, and we'll be side to side with them. 0.95

01:10:50.000 And that was his literal—he wanted to team up with the Nazis to try to take over Russia, and that's a, as we call it on the show, a truth-bader Ginsburg.

01:10:56.000 That's a fact, baby.

01:10:58.000 And that, when we uncovered that, we were like, so none of this history, as we're taught in school— Same thing we uncovered that they knew, allegedly, Churchill and FDR knew about the Holocaust, but it was yielding scientific data, so they let it kind of go.

01:11:13.000 They may believe they didn't know, but they let it go, and then once they just started killing people with no science, they said, okay, let's liberate them now.

01:11:20.000 What scientific data was it yielding?

01:11:22.000 Supposedly because Nazi scientists were doing different types of experiments with Holocaust victims and they were getting some type of scientific data because they didn't care if they lived or died.

01:11:33.000 So they would inject them with some type of chemical or some type of, you know, machinery.

01:11:37.000 Yeah, it's this book I read called The Nazi Symbiosis.

01:11:39.000 They talked all about it.

01:11:40.000 It was wild to read that on a plane with a big swastika on the front cover.

01:11:43.000 Jeez.

01:11:44.000 That was a wild thing.

01:11:45.000 What you want to do if you have to read that book is put a yarmulke on.

01:11:49.000 Don't you remember when you were a kid how do you make your own book cover with a fucking paper bag?

01:11:49.000 Yes.

01:11:54.000 I just walked onto JetBlue with a swastika.

01:11:54.000 Yeah.

01:11:56.000 That wasn't a good idea.

01:11:57.000 Or just put a female wig on and just say you're trans and they leave you alone. 0.88

01:12:00.000 I just say, hey, I'm cake shaming.

01:12:00.000 That's it.

01:12:02.000 The problem is you look like Aryan. 1.00

01:12:04.000 I know.

01:12:05.000 That's the issue.

01:12:05.000 That's the problem.

01:12:06.000 You can't be reading that.

01:12:07.000 I get a little triggered around him because the Nazis did occupy my home country, Greece, and I get a little triggered by his German presence. 0.92

01:12:13.000 He's a German kid from Ridgewood, and sometimes he rooted in history.

01:12:17.000 When he was growing up, he said just for fun.

01:12:19.000 He always kind of rooted.

01:12:21.000 Sometimes you root for that side.

01:12:22.000 I wasn't rooting for the Nazis.

01:12:22.000 Let me clarify.

01:12:24.000 What I was saying was...

01:12:25.000 I was...

01:12:28.000 What I was saying was this.

01:12:30.000 One, I think it's an undeniable fact they did have the best uniforms.

01:12:30.000 Just hear me out.

01:12:34.000 They were cute.

01:12:35.000 They were cute marching in.

01:12:36.000 That's an undeniable fact.

01:12:37.000 Number two, just hear me out.

01:12:39.000 If you listen to a Hitler speech, AI generated, if they translate it into English, and you just churned out Deutschland for America, and you're just listening, you don't know that's Hitler, what Hitler's saying is it just pumps you up. 0.65

01:12:53.000 It's horrible what he did.

01:12:55.000 Yeah, there's English translations of it, it's really weird.

01:12:55.000 I've seen it.

01:12:58.000 Like when he says, there's a speech where he says, we're up against Germany, we are up against England right now, we are two superpowers, and the only way to prevail is one must be destroyed, and it will not be Germany!

01:13:10.000 And if the crowd goes nuts, you start to say like, holy fucking shit!

01:13:14.000 This guy was a headliner.

01:13:16.000 You would have that guy in the mothership on a Friday-Saturday, no problem.

01:13:23.000 Yeah, it's weird when you see it that way, right?

01:13:26.000 And it's also weird when you see the horrors of the war escalate till eventually it becomes the Holocaust. 0.84

01:13:26.000 Yes. 0.84

01:13:33.000 Right.

01:13:33.000 And it's also weird the ubiquitous drug use.

01:13:37.000 Have you read that book?

01:13:38.000 Do we have it still here, Jamie?

01:13:40.000 Or is it in the other room now?

01:13:41.000 I think everyone during war is on something.

01:13:43.000 What, with the crystal meth?

01:13:44.000 The Panzer chocolate?

01:13:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:45.000 Panzer chocolate.

01:13:46.000 Yeah, it was Blitzed.

01:13:49.000 Yes.

01:13:49.000 It's a fucking crazy book.

01:13:51.000 And I have the author in here, and he's explaining...

01:13:53.000 Here it is.

01:13:53.000 There it is.

01:13:54.000 Norman Ohler.

01:13:56.000 This book is fucking nuts.

01:13:58.000 This is nuts.

01:13:58.000 Nice.

01:13:59.000 Can I take that for the plane?

01:13:59.000 They had the...

01:14:01.000 No, this is my book.

01:14:02.000 Fuck off.

01:14:02.000 Oh, sorry.

01:14:03.000 Go buy one.

01:14:04.000 Amazon.

01:14:05.000 Don't you have an audiobook reader thing?

01:14:07.000 No, I like to read the words.

01:14:09.000 I can't really listen.

01:14:10.000 Oh, okay.

01:14:10.000 Yeah, I have a weird brain like that.

01:14:12.000 Well, you can get audio books or regular books on your phone.

01:14:16.000 Don't you know that?

01:14:16.000 Yeah, I try to...

01:14:17.000 I feel like I'm addicted to the phone.

01:14:19.000 I like to read the paperback.

01:14:21.000 Oh.

01:14:22.000 Yeah, probably better.

01:14:23.000 Yeah.

01:14:23.000 So, but, you know, to each their own.

01:14:25.000 But if it wasn't for drugs, they would have never done 90% of the things they did, and then they just descended into madness.

01:14:33.000 Yeah.

01:14:33.000 Yeah, and a lot of Germans, those five years from 1945 to 1950, that suicide rate of German soldiers coming home was through the roof, Papi, because they were coming off meth.

01:14:44.000 They were getting ostracized by their own people and the rest of Europe, and they were saying, what did I do?

01:14:49.000 Some of them actually were, obviously, a lot of them were just horrific people that were sadistic, but a lot of these guys, also, it's not like they had a choice.

01:14:57.000 They had to fight in the Nazi armor or they would be killed.

01:14:59.000 And then they were all drugged out, so then the suicide rate tripled.

01:15:02.000 Yeah, but let's not act like it was just the drugs.

01:15:05.000 I mean, the whole Jewish thing was nothing new. 0.87

01:15:07.000 I mean, I have a theory about that.

01:15:08.000 It's like the Jews just always figured out a way to flourish wherever they were, and they're just good at economics. 0.98

01:15:15.000 And I think when a country goes through economic hardships and everyone's suffering, they just look at the Jews and they go, they just get jealous.

01:15:22.000 And they go, what are they doing?

01:15:23.000 And then it's an easy scapegoat.

01:15:25.000 Hmm.

01:15:25.000 Jews just crush it in money, dude.

01:15:27.000 They're just good with business.

01:15:28.000 They're better at money.

01:15:28.000 They're just good.

01:15:29.000 I know, man.

01:15:30.000 They're just good with it.

01:15:31.000 Yeah.

01:15:31.000 Did you have a Jewish guy who told you not to buy that house?

01:15:33.000 Huh?

01:15:34.000 Yes.

01:15:34.000 And I overrode the Jew for Chachapiti.

01:15:36.000 That's the problem.

01:15:37.000 That's the problem.

01:15:38.000 Unless my Chachapiti could be Jewish, too. 0.88

01:15:40.000 I don't know.

01:15:40.000 I've never asked it that.

01:15:41.000 It's probably Chinese. 0.88

01:15:42.000 They're just smart.

01:15:43.000 They emphasize education, and they're really good, and they've been able to flourish under adversity.

01:15:49.000 I think there's also that they stick to their own, and that drives people wild.

01:15:53.000 Right.

01:15:54.000 They don't like that.

01:15:55.000 Yeah.

01:15:55.000 Right.

01:15:56.000 But every...

01:15:56.000 I mean, Greeks do.

01:15:57.000 Greeks do the same thing.

01:15:58.000 Sure.

01:15:59.000 A lot of groups.

01:15:59.000 A lot of ethnic groups.

01:16:00.000 Yeah, Greeks are pretty... 1.00

01:16:01.000 You guys, again, to really know Jan as well, you guys have a lot of inbred qualities.

01:16:05.000 I mean, look at my eyes.

01:16:06.000 Yeah.

01:16:06.000 He was too...

01:16:07.000 It was not...

01:16:08.000 My generations were a little bit further apart than his.

01:16:11.000 He might have been third, fourth cousin.

01:16:12.000 I'm eighth, ninth.

01:16:13.000 Yeah.

01:16:14.000 It's not going to hit me.

01:16:15.000 You go back to the Toba volcano eruption, the whole entire population of Earth was down to a few thousand people.

01:16:23.000 Wow.

01:16:23.000 So we all come from those people.

01:16:24.000 So we're all little inbred.

01:16:26.000 A little bit, right?

01:16:27.000 It's gotta be.

01:16:28.000 I actually have a lot of...

01:16:30.000 I got some Turkish genetics in me.

01:16:32.000 I did 23andMe.

01:16:33.000 So they have my DNA. So they can put anything on me.

01:16:36.000 They got you.

01:16:36.000 They got me.

01:16:37.000 Well, that was raped into your great-great-great-grandmother. 1.00

01:16:39.000 Probably.

01:16:39.000 Unfortunately.

01:16:40.000 The Ottoman Empire.

01:16:41.000 This is a true story.

01:16:42.000 My grandfather is from the island that used to be called Imbros, which is now called something with a squiggly line over it because it's a Turkish word.

01:16:50.000 The Turks took that island back, and my grandfather was sent away to Alexandria by my great-grandparents because the local Ottoman viceroy, or whatever they called it, they have a word for it, but he was essentially a viceroy, was like raping boys.

01:17:06.000 So they sent him away, and he never saw his family again.

01:17:09.000 He went to live in Alexandria, and then he came to America, and yes, he opened a diner.

01:17:13.000 Right.

01:17:13.000 Yeah, after he worked his way.

01:17:14.000 What about that story you told me?

01:17:16.000 I think it was your mom or your mom's sister in the town.

01:17:18.000 Oh, dude.

01:17:19.000 Tell them that story with the tank.

01:17:20.000 Yeah.

01:17:22.000 Lex Friedman loved that episode.

01:17:23.000 He told me about that.

01:17:25.000 Dude.

01:17:25.000 We did a Battle of Crete episode, and it's true because my mother was a little child during the occupation of Crete.

01:17:30.000 The Battle of Crete is a wild...

01:17:32.000 His mother grew up in Nazi-occupied Greece.

01:17:34.000 Yeah.

01:17:34.000 Wild.

01:17:35.000 And so what the Nazis would do is they would take a girl from the village.

01:17:40.000 Because they were marching troops all over the place, through the mountains, the guerrillas, the Greek guerrilla fighters, which was the local populations, they were also with the British and New Zealand and Australian troops, but they would pluck them off because they knew the terrain and they would just, they would pluck them off.

01:17:54.000 Guerrilla warfare.

01:17:55.000 So the Nazis were so brutal but smart in a devious way, they would take a girl from the village and put her up high on the truck To march through that area of that village so the gorillas wouldn't shoot. 0.81

01:18:09.000 So they were going to take my aunt, my mom's mother.

01:18:11.000 So they sent my aunt to go hide in the mountains.

01:18:15.000 And the Nazis came to my mother's parents' house, to her house.

01:18:19.000 And my mother was like seven at the time.

01:18:21.000 And they came with their flashlights.

01:18:23.000 They pulled the sheets back of my mother. 0.99

01:18:25.000 And supposedly she was too small.

01:18:28.000 So they kind of knew they wanted a girl who was, like, teenager, kind of tall.

01:18:33.000 So it wasn't too brutal, because it was like a little kid, but it was, like, enough that it would ward off the gorillas from firing at them.

01:18:40.000 But what is it, gorillas?

01:18:40.000 Because if they missed, or if they got, Nazi got shot, then they would kill the girl on the truck.

01:18:45.000 Yeah, they're basically going, it's basically a hostage, going, like, we're taking a village girl, putting her up, and making her visible, because they don't know the terrain.

01:18:52.000 Crete is very mountainous, you know?

01:18:54.000 And so then they would do that.

01:18:56.000 And they were going to take my aunt.

01:18:58.000 So a family friend who worked for the Nazis, because he spoke German, warned my family about it.

01:19:05.000 And then that's when they sent my aunt to go hide in the mountains.

01:19:09.000 Oh my God.

01:19:10.000 Wild stuff.

01:19:11.000 Right.

01:19:11.000 And then my mother said that there was a Nazi soldier who would come to their house every single day.

01:19:16.000 They had to let him in.

01:19:17.000 And he'd go to a room every day.

01:19:20.000 And they didn't know what he did in there.

01:19:21.000 It's a family mystery.

01:19:23.000 Nobody knows what he did.

01:19:23.000 They let him in.

01:19:24.000 He'd go to a room by himself.

01:19:25.000 Nobody knows what he did.

01:19:26.000 Maybe he took a nap.

01:19:27.000 Maybe he was a spy.

01:19:28.000 Maybe he was a double agent.

01:19:30.000 You just had to let him in.

01:19:31.000 Had to let him in.

01:19:33.000 Occupation for three years.

01:19:34.000 That is what's really scary about people, that they could justify that kind of thinking and behavior.

01:19:40.000 It's scary that that's happened throughout history, and that's probably a civilized version of what would have happened in 1200. Oh, yes.

01:19:47.000 Well, like Man's Search for Meaning with Viktor Frankl.

01:19:50.000 You ever read that?

01:19:51.000 No, I haven't.

01:19:51.000 Viktor Frankl, he survived the Holocaust, but he wrote it during, while he was in a concentration camp.

01:19:56.000 And he was saying, I think it was, call it 1942. He was saying, if you would have told me and the people here in 1922 that this would be happening to us, we would say, no, no, no.

01:20:06.000 Those are the barbarians from 100 years ago that would ever do that. 0.99

01:20:10.000 And now here I am.

01:20:11.000 Sleeping in my own filth, maybe being put into an oven, so it can happen anywhere.

01:20:15.000 And he said that peace, you know, he wrote it like, you know, he was like in the 60s or 70s.

01:20:21.000 He was like, you know, he grew up in wartime, so all his people want peace.

01:20:25.000 And he was like, it's the kids that he worries about that grow up during peace.

01:20:28.000 They're just going to beg for war, always. 0.82

01:20:30.000 He was like, that's just what will happen to them, because they don't know anything other.

01:20:33.000 He was like, but if you went through war, you don't want this.

01:20:36.000 You don't want to fight anybody.

01:20:37.000 I bet it's very abstract for the people that are calling for war.

01:20:40.000 It's like Lindsey Graham talking about, we gotta give that money to Ukraine.

01:20:44.000 Like Lindsey Graham doesn't know jack shit about being shot at. 1.00

01:20:48.000 No.

01:20:48.000 That's a story as old as time, right?

01:20:51.000 The politician sending the boys?

01:20:52.000 As old as time.

01:20:53.000 Yeah.

01:20:53.000 And we do it, it seems, mostly for corporate interests.

01:20:56.000 Now, you don't think we're more of a...

01:20:58.000 Corporate oligarchy, like more than like a feudal, like you were mentioning before, the emperor, the king dies, the sons.

01:21:08.000 We're kind of more, this is like a new kind of corporate oligarchy.

01:21:11.000 It's hard to just call it corporate because it's also connected to government.

01:21:15.000 Like corporate and government, just like the Chinese, are inseparable now. 1.00

01:21:20.000 Right.

01:21:20.000 You know, the amount of influence that enormous corporations have over politicians is crazy.

01:21:26.000 Yeah.

01:21:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:21:26.000 You know, I mean, just look at these wacky bills, like the bill they just shot down that people are justifying.

01:21:32.000 Like, did you look at that bill, all the different stuff that was in the bill?

01:21:36.000 First of all, there's bio labs in that bill.

01:21:39.000 Gain-of-function research in that bill, 40% increase in raise for Congress in that bill, some enormous amount of money to build a stadium in Washington, D.C. There's a lot of nutty shit in that bill, and how many different people were interested in those things?

01:21:57.000 When you're saying biolabs, who the fuck is asking for biolabs? 1.00

01:22:01.000 Some corporation that's going to benefit from the biolabs. 1.00

01:22:04.000 Exactly.

01:22:04.000 I mean, what the fuck are lobby groups?

01:22:06.000 Why do we have lobby groups?

01:22:07.000 What is that?

01:22:07.000 Well, that's the most expensive real estate in the country, is the Virginia real estate outside of D.C., where the lobbyists live.

01:22:14.000 Yeah, K Street, too.

01:22:16.000 It's like that and Atherton, where all the tech dorks live.

01:22:20.000 Yeah, I mean, what is that in our system?

01:22:23.000 Lobby groups.

01:22:23.000 Like, that should not be a thing.

01:22:25.000 It's weird.

01:22:27.000 It's the influence of money that has gotten a hold of politics in this country.

01:22:31.000 It's to try to root that out.

01:22:33.000 So then what's the best form of government then?

01:22:35.000 This.

01:22:36.000 This is better than anywhere else in the world by far.

01:22:39.000 We have the most freedom because we have the First Amendment, because we have the ability to do whatever you want to do.

01:22:45.000 No one's forcing you into a marriage.

01:22:47.000 No one's forcing you into labor.

01:22:48.000 You can choose your path in this country, and that's what's rare.

01:22:52.000 Right.

01:22:52.000 You know, it's an experiment in self-government.

01:22:54.000 It's not perfect.

01:22:55.000 It's the best that's available.

01:22:56.000 It needs to be overhauled, but it's pretty fucking awesome.

01:22:59.000 Yeah.

01:23:00.000 Right.

01:23:00.000 And it's amendable, right?

01:23:03.000 It's fluid, which is important because of human nature is not perfect.

01:23:06.000 That's why I never sign on to any, like...

01:23:08.000 ideologies, utopian theories, because it's a mix of systems that works because human nature is so complicated and individuals are so different that one company will be run by a moral good guy.

01:23:20.000 Another company will be dumping toxic waste into the Hudson River.

01:23:23.000 And it's like you have to regulate.

01:23:25.000 Government has to step in sometimes a little bit to protect the people from nefarious things like that, you know?

01:23:33.000 Especially when corporations have an obligation to make more money every year.

01:23:39.000 They have an obligation.

01:23:40.000 They're shareholders.

01:23:40.000 They don't.

01:23:41.000 They're out.

01:23:42.000 This guy likes yachts.

01:23:42.000 I like yachts.

01:23:43.000 I want to keep my yacht.

01:23:44.000 Have fun.

01:23:44.000 You gotta keep making that loot.

01:23:47.000 How do you make that loot?

01:23:48.000 You gotta fucking get rid of that shit cheaper.

01:23:50.000 There's a river.

01:23:51.000 The guy said it's cool.

01:23:52.000 Dump it in the river.

01:23:53.000 That's it.

01:23:54.000 And we're gonna say, whoops, we didn't do that.

01:23:55.000 Now you can't repair iPhones.

01:23:57.000 They make you buy a new iPhone every year.

01:23:59.000 Clothes last like one wash.

01:24:02.000 Change the charging port.

01:24:03.000 Isn't it better if I sell you a new one to fix it?

01:24:06.000 Fuck off with this.

01:24:07.000 And where do they put all that waste?

01:24:09.000 Where does it all go?

01:24:09.000 Landfills.

01:24:10.000 Right.

01:24:11.000 Yeah, that's not a sustainable system.

01:24:13.000 Singapore has an amazing system.

01:24:15.000 You ever seen Singapore's recycling system?

01:24:17.000 No.

01:24:17.000 It's fantastic.

01:24:18.000 It's really wild.

01:24:19.000 I mean, if they could implement that worldwide, it would be pretty phenomenal.

01:24:22.000 What do they do?

01:24:22.000 They recycle everything.

01:24:24.000 Like, we don't really recycle plastic.

01:24:26.000 We say we're recycling.

01:24:28.000 Right.

01:24:28.000 I'll throw it in the blue bin.

01:24:29.000 I feel bad about myself.

01:24:31.000 No, that's not doing a goddamn thing.

01:24:33.000 That blue bin is going to go in the ground.

01:24:35.000 Right.

01:24:36.000 The only thing they really recycle is like aluminum and some metals because it's cost effective.

01:24:41.000 It's too expensive to recycle plastic.

01:24:43.000 So they just put it in fucking landfills.

01:24:46.000 You think you're being a good guy by throwing it into that fucking recyclable bin.

01:24:50.000 It's not getting anywhere but in the ground.

01:24:51.000 But not Singapore.

01:24:53.000 Singapore.

01:24:54.000 See if you can find...

01:24:55.000 I know we've done this before.

01:24:57.000 There's a detailed description of how they do it in Singapore.

01:25:02.000 They use it to make the surface of their roads.

01:25:05.000 They take fucking everything.

01:25:08.000 Everything.

01:25:09.000 They have these waste incineration plants.

01:25:11.000 They burn things off 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

01:25:15.000 And then they take whatever is usable that they can change and recycle, they make new things out of it.

01:25:22.000 They turn it into raw fuels.

01:25:23.000 Dude, it is so advanced over there.

01:25:26.000 You look at that city and you go like, they started the cities in America and then they just shipped them over to the east.

01:25:32.000 Look at this.

01:25:33.000 They're using this to make bricks.

01:25:35.000 They're taking this stuff and they use it to pave their streets.

01:25:38.000 This is all made out of this stuff that they've gotten from recycling.

01:25:44.000 We can't do it.

01:25:45.000 Well, they're isolated, right?

01:25:47.000 So they had a problem, much like Puerto Rico has a problem in that you don't have a lot of land mass.

01:25:53.000 That's the setup that Tony needed.

01:25:55.000 Well, Tony, actually, that's where the joke came from.

01:25:58.000 I know.

01:25:58.000 He just needed...

01:25:59.000 If he had just saved it...

01:26:01.000 He needed to not do it at a fucking political rally.

01:26:03.000 But if you're going to do it, just set it up.

01:26:05.000 Or even when it didn't work at the end, go, hey, you guys don't know about the garbage issue?

01:26:09.000 No, you can't do it.

01:26:10.000 Or, you don't know about the garbage issue?

01:26:12.000 Something like that, yeah.

01:26:14.000 You tell me if Tony Hinchcliffe didn't live in the 1400s, he would be like a very evil prince, like living in a castle?

01:26:20.000 Yeah.

01:26:21.000 Or a jester.

01:26:22.000 Yeah.

01:26:22.000 100%.

01:26:23.000 Yeah.

01:26:24.000 He would take people from Rome.

01:26:27.000 I think they were forced to do that.

01:26:29.000 I think it was a situation where they've got to do something, because I don't think they had the same access to new materials, and they just came up with a much more comprehensive way to...

01:26:39.000 Better way.

01:26:40.000 Right.

01:26:40.000 Way better.

01:26:41.000 If we did it that way, we'd have so few problems with regards to waste.

01:26:47.000 Demystifying Singapore's waste management system.

01:26:49.000 Large part of the problem getting people to be more sustainable.

01:26:53.000 They often don't understand how waste management works in their city.

01:26:56.000 That might be overstated how good their situation is.

01:27:01.000 It's also they just listen.

01:27:02.000 Far better than ours.

01:27:03.000 Burning all the trash probably isn't a good idea.

01:27:05.000 Asian people just listen.

01:27:05.000 They have a common theme and they'll just listen.

01:27:07.000 You're not going to get a bunch of different people in America to just listen.

01:27:10.000 Put that back up, please.

01:27:11.000 So I can see what they're doing it from.

01:27:13.000 I was trying to find the...

01:27:14.000 I was going to read through it.

01:27:15.000 Oh, okay.

01:27:16.000 Find a good part of it.

01:27:18.000 I think that we could definitely do it better than we're doing it.

01:27:21.000 And if it costs more money, wouldn't that be better than just throwing it in the fucking ground?

01:27:25.000 We're so short-sighted in what we do with tax dollars and we don't get a say in it.

01:27:29.000 And that's what's fucked up.

01:27:31.000 And the corporations just don't plan for end of life for the product.

01:27:34.000 They don't care.

01:27:35.000 All they care about is their bottom line.

01:27:37.000 It costs money for them to consider recycling or what's going to happen with the product when it's done.

01:27:44.000 I've been getting glass bottles of milk now from the supermarket because if you get this glass bottle of milk, they say the milk's better and then I can give the glass bottle back and, number one, I get $3 back and they said that they clean them out and they just put more milk in the glass bottle.

01:27:56.000 Go old school.

01:27:57.000 Well, I go even older school.

01:27:58.000 I just still suck on my wife's tent. 1.00

01:27:59.000 That's it!

01:28:00.000 Yeah, so it's still there.

01:28:02.000 Yummy!

01:28:02.000 What is this, Jamie?

01:28:03.000 Is this the garbage pile?

01:28:04.000 It's one of their landfills.

01:28:05.000 Their landfills are going to be full in 10 years.

01:28:08.000 Yeah, I think that's part of the problem.

01:28:09.000 So they were forced to figure out what to do with all the stuff.

01:28:12.000 But their recycling program, I know, is way better than ours.

01:28:16.000 You know, they're just much better at sorting things out and making it work.

01:28:20.000 Also note, in that video we watched, that city they showed was China, not Singapore.

01:28:23.000 Oh, interesting.

01:28:24.000 So they're building them in Singapore?

01:28:26.000 Are they taking them from Singapore and then building them in China?

01:28:30.000 Or is it just...

01:28:30.000 Someone made a video.

01:28:31.000 Just trying to do it.

01:28:32.000 Oh, so it's horseshit.

01:28:34.000 A little bit.

01:28:34.000 A little bit of horseshit.

01:28:35.000 And Singapore is a country, they don't fuck around, right? 0.91

01:28:37.000 That's the country they'll get hit with.

01:28:38.000 You'll get caned.

01:28:39.000 That was a big story when I was a little kid.

01:28:41.000 Everyone thought they were going to get caned for gum.

01:28:43.000 We get hit with bamboo sticks, gotta hurt.

01:28:45.000 Have you heard about this story in Vietnam?

01:28:47.000 Tell me.

01:28:47.000 This chick is like Hall of Fame level fraud.

01:28:52.000 Like $54 billion.

01:28:53.000 She's up there with Bernie Madoff.

01:28:55.000 What's she doing?

01:28:56.000 This chick. 1.00

01:28:57.000 Pull it up, Jamie.

01:28:58.000 Yeah, I feel like Rogan, baby.

01:28:59.000 Jamie, pull her up! 0.99

01:29:01.000 This chick is a woman and she set up this elaborate scheme to steal like $12 billion, but it actually is more. 1.00

01:29:10.000 And they're going to kill her.

01:29:11.000 Why didn't she have a mask on?

01:29:13.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:29:14.000 Because they wanted to get COVID. Fuck that bitch. 1.00

01:29:16.000 That's it.

01:29:17.000 What did she do? 0.80

01:29:18.000 So she set up these fake shell corporations. 1.00

01:29:22.000 She was a stockholder or a... 0.97

01:29:28.000 One of the owners of the bank, but a minority owner, and she was just funneling out money. 0.89

01:29:33.000 She's got to come up with three quarters of what she earns or she gets killed. 1.00

01:29:38.000 That's a good movie, right?

01:29:39.000 Yeah, that's a good movie.

01:29:40.000 Nine billion dollars.

01:29:41.000 If she does give him that much money, they just give her life in prison. 0.98

01:29:45.000 Yeah, but she's not going to come up with that money, because I think it's $54 billion, actually, if I remember correctly.

01:29:50.000 She embezzled $54 billion? 0.99

01:29:51.000 Yeah, I mean, it's up there.

01:29:53.000 Yeah.

01:29:54.000 What did she do? 0.80

01:29:54.000 It says $27 billion in this one. 0.80

01:29:56.000 $27 was misappropriated.

01:29:58.000 $12 billion was judged to be embezzled.

01:30:00.000 The most serious financial crime for which she's sentenced to death. 0.99

01:30:03.000 It was a rare and shocking verdict.

01:30:05.000 She's one of the very few women in Vietnam to be sentenced to death for white-collar crime. 0.64

01:30:09.000 What did she do? 0.80

01:30:10.000 She... 1.00

01:30:10.000 Yeah, I mean, we could look it up. 1.00

01:30:12.000 Let's find the whole story.

01:30:13.000 It's amazing.

01:30:14.000 She did it through a bank.

01:30:16.000 She's secretly controlled Saigon Commercial Bank, the country's fifth biggest lender, taking out loans and cash over more than 10 years through a web of shell companies, amounting to a total of $44 billion.

01:30:28.000 There you go.

01:30:29.000 So I was off by $10 billion.

01:30:30.000 Oh my god.

01:30:31.000 Yeah.

01:30:31.000 I mean, that's up there.

01:30:32.000 Prosecutors say $27 billion was misappropriated, $12 billion was judged to have been embezzled, most serious financial crime which was sentenced to death.

01:30:40.000 Tuesday, the court said there was no basis to reduce her sentence.

01:30:44.000 However, she could still avoid the execution if she returns $9 billion.

01:30:49.000 Three-quarters of the $12 billion she embezzled.

01:30:51.000 That bitch had so much money. 1.00

01:30:53.000 So much.

01:30:53.000 How are you going to get $9 billion?

01:30:55.000 Give her credit.

01:30:55.000 Imagine embezzling $9 billion and being like, I need more.

01:30:59.000 Yeah.

01:31:00.000 I need another three.

01:31:03.000 That's so much money.

01:31:05.000 You could literally spend a hundred million dollars a year for the rest of your life.

01:31:09.000 You would never run out of money with all the interest and everything coming in.

01:31:13.000 It's a thousand billion.

01:31:15.000 So you have twelve thousand billion dollars.

01:31:18.000 Yeah.

01:31:18.000 And you're still going.

01:31:20.000 Yeah.

01:31:20.000 Or $12,000 million, rather.

01:31:22.000 And you're still going.

01:31:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:23.000 That's so much money.

01:31:25.000 You think she's going to be able to get the nine bill back?

01:31:27.000 No!

01:31:27.000 She's calling friends up.

01:31:28.000 They're going like, we don't know you now.

01:31:30.000 Because she had conspirators with her.

01:31:32.000 She had family and friends that were helping her.

01:31:34.000 And, yeah, look, so there's 85 defendants were convicted.

01:31:38.000 Her husband, her niece...

01:31:40.000 They were given sentences, but like, yeah, I mean, her friends...

01:31:44.000 Everybody was getting a little taste.

01:31:45.000 Everyone was getting a little peace.

01:31:47.000 A little taste.

01:31:47.000 It was a score.

01:31:48.000 Fun.

01:31:49.000 Nice score.

01:31:49.000 It was a nice score.

01:31:51.000 Imagine.

01:31:52.000 But to pull that off in communist Vietnam, that I know they have a little bit of a, you know, periastroka kind of mixed economy now, but you got to give her credit as a woman.

01:32:00.000 That's achievement right there.

01:32:01.000 It is achievement.

01:32:02.000 I wonder how she got caught.

01:32:04.000 I wonder what was the thing she fucked up on.

01:32:07.000 She probably bought a diamond ring. 0.55

01:32:09.000 You know those chicks like diamonds. 1.00

01:32:10.000 She had a giant Rolls Royce. 0.66

01:32:14.000 The kid in crypto who got caught.

01:32:16.000 He stole a bunch of money from crypto and got caught doing something dumb.

01:32:20.000 He was just buying Lambos but wasting all the money.

01:32:23.000 What do you mean, Lambos?

01:32:25.000 How are you supposed to spend the money if you make it on crypto?

01:32:26.000 No, but he stole like billions of dollars.

01:32:28.000 That's exactly what it's for.

01:32:31.000 If you make billions of dollars on crypto and you don't have a Lambo, you're an asshole. 0.97

01:32:34.000 That's how you get crypto.

01:32:35.000 Somebody sent me an email the other day and said that they hacked into my phone and computer and they have videos of me doing disgusting things and jerking off and all that and they said the only way that they can make it go away is if I, and they gave me a link and they said I have to pay them in Bitcoin.

01:32:52.000 I have to pay them in all this Bitcoin.

01:32:53.000 So I was just like, you know, I mean, I didn't obviously do it, but I was just like, show me the video.

01:32:59.000 Yeah.

01:32:59.000 Show it to me.

01:33:00.000 I'll repost.

01:33:00.000 At this point, as comics, I would repost it.

01:33:02.000 I would repost it with fucking links to my dates.

01:33:05.000 I just want you to see how wild this is.

01:33:07.000 The government does not publish how many people are on death row in Vietnam.

01:33:11.000 Human rights groups say there's thousands.

01:33:13.000 It's a state secret.

01:33:14.000 Speaking of crypto, what's going on with that Hawk Tua chick? 1.00

01:33:17.000 Is she going to jail? 0.97

01:33:18.000 What happened now?

01:33:18.000 What happened to Hawk Tua?

01:33:19.000 That's my girl.

01:33:20.000 No one's heard from her.

01:33:21.000 What did she do? 0.80

01:33:21.000 For over 300 hours, I think. 0.80

01:33:23.000 What does that mean?

01:33:24.000 She went to sleep and she hasn't woke up.

01:33:26.000 What did she do? 0.80

01:33:26.000 She just hasn't been on social media, you mean? 0.80

01:33:28.000 It's not like she's hiding.

01:33:29.000 A coin was launched with her meme and she was like the front of it. 0.92

01:33:33.000 I don't know all the details.

01:33:34.000 Is that a crime?

01:33:35.000 No, no, no.

01:33:36.000 The pump and dump might be the crime. 0.96

01:33:37.000 The thing was, there was an enormous amount of money that was put into this meme coin by all these people, and then she or someone representing her side of it sold instantaneously and made a huge score, and then the coin was worth nothing.

01:33:53.000 Mmm.

01:33:54.000 So all those people that invested money, like one guy invested a million dollars.

01:33:58.000 Like imagine, you're like, oh, the Hawk Tour girl?

01:34:00.000 Yeah, that's a sound investment.

01:34:02.000 Yeah.

01:34:02.000 That seems like a good place to put my nest egg.

01:34:04.000 Some people for sure lost money, but it was definitely a time to just troll and be like, oh, I'm such an idiot, I lost $10 million on this, because people were trolling the whole movement of being dumb and following Hawk Tour.

01:34:15.000 But some people did lose money, I don't want to.

01:34:17.000 Is she actually going to go to jail for real?

01:34:20.000 Can the SEC invest crypto like that?

01:34:22.000 I guess it depends on what she knew and what she did.

01:34:25.000 Well, it's like, what are the rules?

01:34:26.000 What are the rules in terms of like, are you allowed to do that?

01:34:29.000 Like, is that unethical but legal?

01:34:32.000 Like, are you allowed to have a meme coin and it gets to like $100 million and you have a bunch of it and you just sell it all and you make $50 million?

01:34:38.000 Are you allowed to do that?

01:34:39.000 If you're not allowed to do that, what's the point of having 50 million bucks?

01:34:42.000 Right.

01:34:43.000 Do you not have trust in the Hawk Tua coin if I sell it?

01:34:47.000 That's ridiculous.

01:34:48.000 That's on you.

01:34:48.000 That's on me.

01:34:49.000 I did the smart thing and I got out when I thought it was a good price.

01:34:53.000 And I'm selling it to people.

01:34:54.000 They should take that and run with it and this would be the next currency of the world.

01:34:58.000 I invested in the Hawk Tua.

01:34:59.000 If you think idiocracy is...

01:35:01.000 If it's a documentary, imagine if the Hawk Tua girl overcomes fiat currency.

01:35:08.000 Well, have you ever seen how many coins there are?

01:35:10.000 How many cryptocurrencies there are?

01:35:12.000 Oh, there's a bunch.

01:35:12.000 And some of them have really funny names and people trade them.

01:35:15.000 Dude, one of them was called Buttcoin.

01:35:16.000 Yeah.

01:35:17.000 I put 250 bucks in it.

01:35:19.000 Hawk Tua judge.

01:35:19.000 Hawk Tua girls.

01:35:20.000 I like how her name is just Hawk Tua girl.

01:35:22.000 Her name's Haley.

01:35:23.000 Oh yeah, Haley Welch. 0.72

01:35:24.000 Yeah.

01:35:25.000 Biz partners are getting sued over the meme coin disaster.

01:35:28.000 Okay.

01:35:30.000 Partners are doing it.

01:35:31.000 So it was probably some people she got invested in.

01:35:35.000 She probably doesn't understand all that stuff.

01:35:36.000 She's only 22 or something like that.

01:35:38.000 Right.

01:35:39.000 It was probably the partners that went with her, they pump and dumped on her, and then she's left holding the bill because nobody knows who they are. 0.87

01:35:47.000 So scroll up?

01:35:48.000 I'm just guessing.

01:35:49.000 I don't know.

01:35:50.000 A legal firm of Burnwick Laws filed a U.S. federal lawsuit on behalf of the investors against the creators of the influencer-push Hawk Tua meme coin, which fell on its face in the hours following its launch.

01:36:02.000 Haley Welch, who gained notoriety this year with the Hawk Tua girl following a viral interview about sexual technique, facing a disastrous Solana meme coin launch at the start of the month.

01:36:13.000 Not only did the price collapse by 93% from a $490 million peak.

01:36:18.000 Holy shit!

01:36:20.000 $490 million peak market cap for a Hawk Tua coin.

01:36:24.000 With the rug pull allegations quickly surfacing, but a cluster of connected wallets holding 96% of the supply led to further controversy.

01:36:33.000 The hate only increased when it was found that some of the wallets were selling.

01:36:37.000 Quickly, Berwick Law posted on Twitter asking for hawk buyers impacted by the plunge to step forward to create a potential lawsuit.

01:36:45.000 Now, two weeks later, the lawsuit has been filed naming 12 American resident plaintiffs who claim to have collectively suffered damages in excess of $151,000.

01:36:56.000 If I lost a million bucks, I'd be in that fast.

01:36:58.000 Yeah, that's weird.

01:36:59.000 Isn't that weird?

01:36:59.000 Like, there's only 12 people, and they've only lost 151 total.

01:37:04.000 I wonder how many people, like, all told invested in the Hawk Tool coin.

01:37:07.000 How many stone-cold retards are out there roaming the world? 1.00

01:37:12.000 I don't know, but this is inspiring.

01:37:13.000 Should we do a history hyena's coin?

01:37:15.000 I'm telling you, do it and then...

01:37:17.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:37:18.000 Don't listen to Jamie.

01:37:19.000 Do it, get it real high, and then sell.

01:37:22.000 Make the money.

01:37:23.000 Just fuck all those dummies that are buying your stupid fucking coin. 1.00

01:37:27.000 We're announcing it right now.

01:37:29.000 The History Hyenas Coin will be available.

01:37:31.000 We're going to launch it.

01:37:32.000 This is how you do it.

01:37:34.000 This is a win-win for everybody.

01:37:36.000 You're going to have a History Hyenas Coin, but the only way to purchase it is with the Hawk Tua Coin.

01:37:40.000 Right.

01:37:41.000 Got it.

01:37:41.000 Right.

01:37:42.000 Smart.

01:37:42.000 Right.

01:37:43.000 That way everybody's a winner.

01:37:44.000 Everyone's a winner.

01:37:45.000 Everybody's a winner.

01:37:45.000 Now all of a sudden the coin makes a comeback.

01:37:46.000 Yeah.

01:37:47.000 Both of you grow.

01:37:48.000 The rising tide lifts all boats.

01:37:50.000 Yeah.

01:37:50.000 So we can finally get Hawk 2R on our show that way.

01:37:51.000 Yeah.

01:37:52.000 This went viral.

01:37:52.000 This was a video of a kid.

01:37:54.000 He's in his house streaming.

01:37:55.000 He was streaming this online.

01:37:56.000 He started a coin and then pumped it up.

01:37:59.000 Look at this kid.

01:37:59.000 He made like 50 grand before it happened.

01:38:01.000 He's pumping it, dubbing it in front of everybody.

01:38:03.000 He starts freaking out here as he watches it go up.

01:38:05.000 Alright.

01:38:06.000 And he got to...

01:38:07.000 How quickly did he dump?

01:38:09.000 He dumps it in.

01:38:10.000 This video is a minute long.

01:38:11.000 He dumped it in the mini?

01:38:14.000 He's watching it go up right now.

01:38:16.000 Wait, what?

01:38:17.000 He just recognized.

01:38:19.000 How old is this kid?

01:38:20.000 I think 13. Wait, what?

01:38:22.000 Maybe 15?

01:38:23.000 Wait, I'm so confused.

01:38:25.000 Oh, it's nuked.

01:38:26.000 Why is it nuked?

01:38:27.000 There's people watching this too.

01:38:29.000 Let's see what other voices you're hearing.

01:38:30.000 Holy fuck!

01:38:31.000 Holy fuck!

01:38:34.000 He just dumped it.

01:38:36.000 Yeah.

01:38:36.000 Yeah, he did.

01:38:37.000 Yo! 1.00

01:38:40.000 Yo! 1.00

01:38:44.000 He has no idea he's committed a crime.

01:38:46.000 Is that a crime?

01:38:47.000 What is a crime?

01:38:49.000 How does it work?

01:38:50.000 How come Nancy Pelosi can make all that money? 1.00

01:38:52.000 I don't understand what the crimes are.

01:38:56.000 There's an SEC regulation against that.

01:38:59.000 Yeah, we can look it up.

01:39:02.000 What about when Tom Brady and Larry David got in trouble for the FTX thing and they were just promoting doing a commercial?

01:39:07.000 How were they in trouble for promoting a coin?

01:39:10.000 I never understood that.

01:39:11.000 Well, it remains to be seen whether or not they'll be charged or whether they'll be found guilty.

01:39:14.000 But how could they even be remotely?

01:39:16.000 Because someone lost a bunch of money, and they said, Larry David, I trusted you.

01:39:20.000 You were promoting this thing that I think is good.

01:39:22.000 That's the reason why I've never promoted any of those.

01:39:24.000 Because I've had offers to promote things like that.

01:39:26.000 For real money.

01:39:27.000 I'm not interested.

01:39:28.000 I'm like, uh-uh.

01:39:29.000 I don't even understand it.

01:39:30.000 If I don't understand it, like, you're selling what?

01:39:32.000 You're selling NFTs?

01:39:33.000 What does that mean?

01:39:33.000 It's a non-fungible token.

01:39:35.000 We're done.

01:39:35.000 I don't know what you're saying.

01:39:36.000 I'm not doing this.

01:39:38.000 There's like too many fucking bros that are out there doing this, the Lambo drivers. 1.00

01:39:44.000 It's like a fuckery culture.

01:39:46.000 So do you understand crypto fully or is it still one of those things like- I understand it.

01:39:50.000 Yeah, I understand it.

01:39:51.000 It's just like it's weird that anybody would invest actual real money in it.

01:39:55.000 I understand Bitcoin more than all the other ones, but even Bitcoin is mysterious.

01:39:59.000 There's a lot of weird...

01:40:00.000 I mean, they don't even know who made it.

01:40:02.000 There's a whole documentary on Satoshi Nakamoto whose real identity is.

01:40:07.000 It's all controversial.

01:40:09.000 That's weird.

01:40:10.000 The fact that there's a certain stable amount of them, though, that's encouraging.

01:40:15.000 You can't make more of them.

01:40:17.000 But that's exactly what artists do to give their art value.

01:40:20.000 That's how you do it.

01:40:21.000 You limit the supply, and then, oh, these are only 10 original paintings, and this is what I'm charging, because there's only 10 prints of these, and so you create the value by the scarcity.

01:40:31.000 So there's nothing mysterious about that.

01:40:31.000 Right.

01:40:33.000 Sort of, but it also limits the ability to add coins to it anytime you want and devalue it.

01:40:40.000 Right.

01:40:40.000 Right?

01:40:41.000 So that's what's more important than, like, making it scarce so people like it more.

01:40:46.000 It is weird.

01:40:49.000 That we used to be on a gold standard and then now we're just on hard drives and we just sort of accept it.

01:40:56.000 And then the government, like when they want to send money to Ukraine, forget about the fact that we're trillions of dollars in debt.

01:41:02.000 They could just come up with $179 billion and ship it over to some country.

01:41:07.000 Yay! 0.99

01:41:08.000 Go have a good time.

01:41:09.000 And there's wild reports about the amount of corruption that this money is experiencing.

01:41:15.000 I mean, this money has probably gone through more people's noses and come out of more people's dicks.

01:41:23.000 Where's this money going?

01:41:24.000 It's so much.

01:41:25.000 There's no way it's 100% efficient.

01:41:27.000 Uh-uh.

01:41:28.000 Not that part of the world.

01:41:29.000 No, I don't understand it so much like Joe.

01:41:31.000 I just don't.

01:41:32.000 Stay away.

01:41:32.000 Yeah, I just stay away.

01:41:33.000 It's like when someone explains curling to me.

01:41:36.000 You know the sport curling?

01:41:37.000 Sure.

01:41:37.000 I'm like, I don't.

01:41:38.000 Even when I get the rules, I'm like, I still don't understand.

01:41:40.000 You know, I was in Newfoundland, and I did a show up there once, and the place that was at was like a theater, and in this theater apparently they have curling shows.

01:41:51.000 And so when you're walking down the hallway in the back, before you go on stage, there's all these fucking photos of people curling.

01:41:58.000 And I just went out there and started shitting on curling right away, and they were so bummed out.

01:42:03.000 They're so bummed out.

01:42:05.000 It looks like the Housekeeper Olympics or something.

01:42:08.000 They're just sweeping the ice.

01:42:10.000 It's so dumb.

01:42:10.000 It's such a dumb, dumb sport.

01:42:13.000 It's like bowling for retards. 1.00

01:42:15.000 It's like regular bowling is too complicated.

01:42:20.000 But they're good.

01:42:21.000 I mean, there's people that are good at it.

01:42:23.000 I don't know how you're good at it, but...

01:42:25.000 I kind of get it, because it's kind of like billiards, right?

01:42:29.000 Or pool.

01:42:30.000 You're rolling this thing.

01:42:32.000 You're trying to just roll it just enough.

01:42:36.000 Just this feel.

01:42:37.000 You get this feel to it.

01:42:38.000 You're just like, let it go now.

01:42:40.000 Let it slide.

01:42:41.000 Sweep it! 0.98

01:42:43.000 Get rid of the friction!

01:42:44.000 So that's what they're doing.

01:42:47.000 They're trying to get rid of the friction.

01:42:48.000 They don't need dust.

01:42:50.000 They don't need snow dust.

01:42:52.000 It's stupid.

01:42:53.000 It's so stupid.

01:42:55.000 But if you grow up and there's nothing to do and you suck at hockey, Just curl.

01:43:00.000 You play that.

01:43:01.000 I guess it's the golfing of ice sports.

01:43:04.000 I guess.

01:43:05.000 I wouldn't.

01:43:05.000 Golfing is way more complex.

01:43:07.000 Yeah, but I just mean like you don't need any real athletic talent to do it.

01:43:10.000 Like how do you retire from golfing?

01:43:13.000 You don't think you need athletic talent from golfing?

01:43:14.000 For golfing?

01:43:15.000 Not really.

01:43:16.000 You definitely do.

01:43:17.000 For the drive.

01:43:18.000 You see these guys' bodies?

01:43:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:43:20.000 But the coordination of your body to drive a golf ball.

01:43:23.000 Jamie's a nut.

01:43:25.000 Jamie, tell them how much it is.

01:43:27.000 I know, but I was about to say, there's guys that are paralyzed that can still golf.

01:43:30.000 Yeah, I mean, it's really like...

01:43:32.000 How do you golf with your mind?

01:43:33.000 No, I mean, they can literally just swing an arm.

01:43:36.000 They're strapped into a contraption that sets them upright and points them around.

01:43:39.000 I've seen blind people golf.

01:43:41.000 I mean, Nate Bargatze golfs.

01:43:42.000 He's good.

01:43:43.000 Look at his body.

01:43:44.000 He's got tits. 1.00

01:43:45.000 I know what's your point.

01:43:46.000 To hit it 400 yards, that's 100% athletic.

01:43:48.000 You can't just accidentally do that.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:50.000 I mean, even John Daly.

01:43:51.000 You can say John Daly's fat and all that stuff, but John Daly, when you watch him move, the efficiency of his movements.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:43:58.000 You know, like we were talking about Mark Hunt.

01:43:59.000 Mark Hunt's a big guy, but still, fuck people up, right?

01:44:02.000 It's still an athlete.

01:44:03.000 Yeah, sure.

01:44:04.000 Like, a lot of these fat golfers, there's a thing they know how to do, they whack that ball, and they know exactly how to fucking put a little spin on that motherfucker, a little whist action on that sucker. 0.99

01:44:14.000 The difference between pro and being able to play the game is like, being a banker and playing Monopoly.

01:44:19.000 Like, you ever seen Bartolo Colon, the pitcher for the Mets?

01:44:22.000 No.

01:44:22.000 I thought that was a Colon you were talking about.

01:44:25.000 This guy's body's the best.

01:44:26.000 Look at Bartolo Colon.

01:44:27.000 If you pull up Bartolo, B-A-R-T-O-L-O, I mean, look at this guy, and he just threw heat in the majors, and he would just, you know?

01:44:35.000 And he was fun about it.

01:44:37.000 He was fun about being fat.

01:44:38.000 He would sit in the locker room with no shirt on, eating cheeseburgers.

01:44:40.000 Nobody gave a shit.

01:44:41.000 Look at that one, with the helmet flying off his head.

01:44:45.000 Well, as long as you're good at that sport.

01:44:47.000 He was good.

01:44:48.000 And that sport is a sport that doesn't require endurance.

01:44:51.000 That's what's important.

01:44:52.000 No.

01:44:52.000 You don't have to do anything for a prolonged period of time.

01:44:54.000 The furthest thing you have to do is run to a base.

01:44:57.000 Yeah.

01:44:57.000 And if you've got to run to all of them, that's crazy.

01:44:59.000 What did you do?

01:45:00.000 Generally, if you're running to all of them, you can kind of trot because you knocked it out of the park.

01:45:04.000 Right.

01:45:04.000 What do you think the sport that requires the most endurance?

01:45:08.000 Obviously not thinking about, like, long-distance running because that's obvious, but, like, You know what I think it is?

01:45:13.000 What?

01:45:14.000 I think hockey.

01:45:15.000 Well, soccer too.

01:45:16.000 Yeah, but the hockey, you notice how those guys can only be on the ice for like...

01:45:20.000 Two minutes shifts.

01:45:21.000 Two minutes, and it's so hard to skate like that.

01:45:24.000 Can't do it.

01:45:25.000 Good point.

01:45:26.000 Soccer players stay on the field the whole game.

01:45:28.000 Yeah, because they get to rest and slow down.

01:45:29.000 Even the best.

01:45:30.000 Gretzky, they can't...

01:45:31.000 Two minutes.

01:45:32.000 Two minutes.

01:45:32.000 They can't do it.

01:45:33.000 That's crazy.

01:45:33.000 It's crazy.

01:45:34.000 They have four lines, I think.

01:45:35.000 So when they go two minutes, how much do they take off before they go back on the ice?

01:45:39.000 I think it's like another minute or two.

01:45:40.000 But it's multiple lines.

01:45:42.000 They just constantly go on and off because they have to continuously skate.

01:45:46.000 Can you imagine what a hockey game would look like if they'd never let them use the bench?

01:45:49.000 Oh, that would be hilarious.

01:45:51.000 People would drop dead.

01:45:52.000 Yeah, they would just drop dead.

01:45:53.000 That would be wild.

01:45:54.000 Have you ever seen hockey live in NHL? To me, besides MMA, I saw an MMA fight once.

01:46:00.000 That was amazing.

01:46:01.000 And then second is NHL. It's very fast.

01:46:04.000 NHL, those guys on skates, whether you know the rules or not, it's amazing.

01:46:07.000 It's a very, very fast skate.

01:46:09.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:46:10.000 And the skill to be able to skate.

01:46:12.000 I can barely skate at all.

01:46:13.000 I'm barely standing up.

01:46:15.000 These motherfuckers. 1.00

01:46:17.000 And it's the only sport where you're allowed to fist fight in.

01:46:20.000 Yeah.

01:46:20.000 100%.

01:46:21.000 It's written into the rules.

01:46:22.000 It's encouraged.

01:46:23.000 You're allowed to duke it out, which is so crazy.

01:46:25.000 That's the only one.

01:46:26.000 Yeah, because I think people don't really know where the puck is.

01:46:30.000 And so everyone's just waiting around for a fight.

01:46:34.000 Because it's grandfathered in, the punching each other.

01:46:37.000 Has anyone ever seen a goal when it actually happened in real time?

01:46:40.000 It happens too fast.

01:46:41.000 That's why they have the siren on top of the goal.

01:46:43.000 Well, you know what I really like on TV where they have that circle over it so they know where the puck is at all times.

01:46:48.000 A lot of craziness happening.

01:46:50.000 It's like if you're watching a football game from the 30th row and you're looking down like, what happened?

01:46:57.000 Who's got the ball?

01:46:58.000 After the ball gets hiked, it's like, where'd it go?

01:47:02.000 Did it go to him?

01:47:03.000 They're faking you out.

01:47:04.000 You don't know.

01:47:05.000 Unless you see the guy throw it.

01:47:06.000 You don't know what's happening.

01:47:08.000 And what about old hockey goalies would do it with no helmet?

01:47:11.000 And just get the puck, and then we have...

01:47:13.000 Oh, you see those faces?

01:47:14.000 The way their faces used to look?

01:47:16.000 Do you think those guys ever sat on the bench and talked about mental health?

01:47:20.000 Nobody told them what it was.

01:47:21.000 No, they didn't know.

01:47:22.000 No, I don't think so.

01:47:23.000 You think they ever talked about their mental health?

01:47:25.000 I think they had some struggles with it, though.

01:47:26.000 Yeah, taking a couple of shots to the head.

01:47:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:28.000 Oh, no question.

01:47:29.000 I mean, yeah, of course.

01:47:29.000 Yeah.

01:47:31.000 I mean, it'd be terrifying.

01:47:33.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:47:34.000 I mean, the guy's blocking it with his face.

01:47:36.000 Yep, it's just what it is.

01:47:37.000 All the scars that he had on his face from his entire career.

01:47:40.000 Terry Sawchuck.

01:47:41.000 That sounds like just a badass name.

01:47:43.000 Yeah.

01:47:44.000 That is a face, man.

01:47:45.000 Look at that, dude.

01:47:46.000 Imagine if that guy gets mad at you in the bar.

01:47:47.000 You're like, yes, sir, bye.

01:47:48.000 Yeah, I don't want that.

01:47:51.000 That's a guy who's seen some fucking shit.

01:47:53.000 Oh, Jesus, look at his face.

01:47:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:57.000 Oh, and he had a mask on.

01:47:58.000 It broke the mask.

01:48:00.000 Fucked his face up.

01:48:01.000 Jesus Christ.

01:48:01.000 I mean, yeah, I mean, they flick that thing.

01:48:02.000 It's so hard right at your face.

01:48:04.000 So fast.

01:48:05.000 Yeah.

01:48:05.000 Who's the scariest warrior, like, from history you would never want to go up against?

01:48:09.000 Like, would it be like, you know, like a wild Native American on the plains, a guy from Genghis Khan, a Nazi? 0.53

01:48:15.000 Who would you be like, shit, this guy's gonna fucking kill me and it's gonna hurt?

01:48:18.000 You have to say the Vikings.

01:48:20.000 Because they were the biggest.

01:48:20.000 Vikings.

01:48:21.000 And they were on mushrooms.

01:48:22.000 Dude, is that true?

01:48:23.000 Yeah.

01:48:24.000 Those Iceland guys that win the World's Strongest Man competition all the time, like those guys like the Mountain from Game of Thrones, where do you think that gene line came from?

01:48:24.000 I didn't know that.

01:48:33.000 Vikings.

01:48:35.000 100%.

01:48:35.000 Those were the dudes that were in that fucking boat with the dragon head at the front, and when they pulled up at your shore, everybody just ran.

01:48:43.000 But can I just nominate someone?

01:48:43.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:48:45.000 Yes.

01:48:46.000 Who you've not been thinking about?

01:48:47.000 I mean, it's obviously not underrated because everyone knows about them, but let's just talk about the record.

01:48:52.000 Alexander the Great, who led his troops...

01:48:55.000 He's undefeated in battle.

01:48:57.000 He's the Floyd Mayweather of generals.

01:49:01.000 Undefeated.

01:49:02.000 That's crazy.

01:49:02.000 Record.

01:49:03.000 Never lost a battle.

01:49:04.000 That's crazy.

01:49:05.000 That's true.

01:49:05.000 And conquered the known world at that time.

01:49:07.000 Took down the mighty Persian Empire. 0.97

01:49:08.000 But if the Vikings were alive back then, they might kill him and his little boyfriend, too.

01:49:12.000 They had enough of them.

01:49:13.000 I think so, dude.

01:49:15.000 They killed each other a lot, too, unfortunately.

01:49:17.000 And they were civilized, the Vikings, too.

01:49:19.000 But did you ever see the biological warfare when they would light the...

01:49:23.000 I read this thing where they would...

01:49:24.000 The rats on their boat, when they were going to whatever...

01:49:27.000 Wherever they were invading, they would wait.

01:49:29.000 They would look for infected rats.

01:49:31.000 Somehow they knew.

01:49:32.000 They would get close enough.

01:49:34.000 They would light their tails on fire and then shoot them into over the walls and then let the rats run around and infect...

01:49:42.000 People and bite people or whatever and wait it out for like 40 days and just then go in when the town was all dying of some disease.

01:49:49.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:49:50.000 That's a fact.

01:49:52.000 The Vikings were brutal.

01:49:53.000 They would even kill like the priests and the churches.

01:49:57.000 They would do bad stuff.

01:49:58.000 Have you ever seen Alexander the Great's ruins in Afghanistan?

01:50:03.000 In person?

01:50:04.000 Dude, I don't want to go to Afghanistan.

01:50:06.000 Photographs.

01:50:07.000 Nobody else go to Afghanistan.

01:50:08.000 That's the problem.

01:50:09.000 Archaeologists can't go there to study them.

01:50:10.000 But they have ancient Greek cities.

01:50:12.000 I know.

01:50:12.000 They look like beautiful, ancient Greek cities that are in the middle of Afghanistan.

01:50:19.000 That's sick.

01:50:19.000 My friend who served over there was telling me about it.

01:50:21.000 He was like, you go there, you can't believe what you're seeing.

01:50:23.000 He had a bunch of pictures of it.

01:50:24.000 It's like, this is the craziest thing.

01:50:25.000 It's like, you're in Athens.

01:50:27.000 That would be crazy.

01:50:28.000 The Greeks kind of nailed some stuff. 0.99

01:50:30.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:31.000 My people kind of, democracy?

01:50:32.000 You know what you really should read?

01:50:33.000 Yeah.

01:50:33.000 The Immortality Key.

01:50:34.000 Have you read that?

01:50:35.000 No.

01:50:36.000 It's Brian Mirorescu.

01:50:37.000 He's a scholar who was studying the use of psychedelic drugs in ancient Greece, where the Eleusinian Mysteries.

01:50:44.000 I've heard of this.

01:50:44.000 Where everybody would go to learn about democracy, and they were all tripping balls.

01:50:49.000 Yeah.

01:50:50.000 And they've found evidence now from these vessels, these pottery vessels, that inside these vessels they were drinking wine.

01:50:57.000 But it wasn't wine.

01:50:59.000 The wine wasn't just alcohol.

01:51:01.000 They would mix it with a bunch of different psychedelic compounds.

01:51:04.000 And one of them was ergot.

01:51:06.000 So they found residue of ergot, which is a psychedelic that gives you like an LSD-like experience.

01:51:13.000 So they were all drinking wine and tripping balls and figuring out democracy and, you know, like fucking stars and constellations.

01:51:21.000 They were out of their heads.

01:51:23.000 The birthplace of so much of Western society has come from that one spot.

01:51:28.000 When's the last time you banged out a little LSD? It's been a long time.

01:51:31.000 Yeah?

01:51:32.000 You think you'll bang it out again one day before you go?

01:51:34.000 I would like it to be legal before I admit to that.

01:51:36.000 Oh, right, right.

01:51:37.000 This is what I think.

01:51:38.000 Oh, I thought LSD was legal.

01:51:39.000 New, new, new, super illegal.

01:51:43.000 Schedule 1. I think when we realize the benefits of these things, and hopefully it's within our lifetime, especially for people that have PTSD, like soldiers.

01:51:54.000 That'll open the door for that.

01:51:55.000 And then they'll have clinics where regular people can use it, and then they can get over a lot of the shit that people are struggling with.

01:52:01.000 There's a lot of people that could have a psychedelic experience and snap themselves back onto a better course in life.

01:52:08.000 And if it's illegal, that number of people is going to be very limited.

01:52:12.000 But like all things, it's gonna have side effects.

01:52:14.000 This is the thing.

01:52:15.000 It's like there's no biological free lunch.

01:52:17.000 And if you're doing something that's blowing your brains out, like LSD, there's a certain amount of people who aren't coming back.

01:52:23.000 And that's real.

01:52:25.000 Because there's a certain amount of people who have a very fragile grasp on reality as it is.

01:52:29.000 You give that person nine grams of psilocybin mushrooms, and you've got a real fucking problem.

01:52:35.000 They might not ever come back.

01:52:36.000 Were you able to snap back quick?

01:52:37.000 You can step back.

01:52:39.000 It depends on what you're doing, you know, and when you're doing it, what time in your life, and what the experience was like.

01:52:45.000 But it should be something that's controlled.

01:52:47.000 It should be something that where you have places you can go, where they have a very strict protocol, they measure your weight, they know what the dose is to give you, you can do it in a calm and clean and safe setting.

01:53:02.000 They're regulated.

01:53:03.000 They have counselors.

01:53:04.000 They have people that understand.

01:53:06.000 They screen you to make sure that you're not on any psych medications first that would interfere with it.

01:53:11.000 That's what we should have, just like we have hospitals, just like we have mental health institutes.

01:53:17.000 This should be psychedelic research centers that are connected to treatment facilities.

01:53:24.000 That's what ketamine therapy is in some small ways, right?

01:53:27.000 Exactly.

01:53:27.000 It's very psychedelic.

01:53:28.000 In fact, John Lilly, the guy who created a sensory deprivation tank, that was his vibe.

01:53:33.000 He used to like to do ketamine in there.

01:53:35.000 He would do intramuscular ketamine.

01:53:37.000 So he would go into the sensory deprivation tank and fucking bang himself with ketamine into the muscles because it would last a long time and just...

01:53:49.000 We just fucking exist in this other dimension for hours at a time.

01:53:54.000 That was his thing.

01:53:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:56.000 Yeah, I mean, dude, I want to hit a...

01:53:57.000 We should do a sensory deprivation tank together.

01:53:59.000 I have one here.

01:54:00.000 He's got one here.

01:54:00.000 You have one here?

01:54:01.000 Yeah, dude.

01:54:01.000 You want to hit it?

01:54:02.000 No.

01:54:02.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:03.000 He won't do it.

01:54:04.000 See, he gets a little...

01:54:04.000 He won't do it.

01:54:05.000 I get a little scared of stuff.

01:54:06.000 Yeah, it's worth being scared.

01:54:08.000 But that's not dangerous.

01:54:10.000 It's not scary.

01:54:10.000 Whatever weird feelings you have, if you can't handle it, all you have to do is open the door and you're sober instantaneously.

01:54:16.000 It's different than anything else.

01:54:18.000 But if it was a drug, if the sensory deprivation tank was a drug, it would be a very psychedelic drug.

01:54:23.000 If it was just a drug, when you lay in there and your eyes are wide open, but it's pitch black and you're floating, you're completely weightless.

01:54:31.000 If that was a drug, it'd be a very popular drug.

01:54:33.000 Now, when you've done this stuff, most people seem to say their ego disappears over the horizon type of stuff.

01:54:39.000 They realize everything's connected.

01:54:40.000 Have you had that experience?

01:54:42.000 You definitely realize everything's connected.

01:54:44.000 And your ego, you realize, is both protecting you and holding you back.

01:54:49.000 Because your ego is like you need a little bit of ego if you want to make it in life Because you need to have enough confidence in yourself that you ask the girl out on a date that you're attracted to or that you chase the job that you want Or that you like stand up for yourself when you feel like you're getting fucked over in a business deal like you need some Ego you can't be completely selfless.

01:55:09.000 You're not gonna get anywhere But then you have to realize that you're very fragile and your ego is protecting you from a lot of true understanding of the life experience.

01:55:22.000 And one of the most profound things that happens with psychedelic experiences is the complete dissolving of ego.

01:55:30.000 And then you kind of see yourself and everyone around you in a way more objective way.

01:55:36.000 And you realize, oh my god, we're all energy feeding off of each other.

01:55:39.000 And we're pretending that we're isolated and we're singular.

01:55:42.000 We're on our own.

01:55:43.000 That's why really ill people will tell you, I don't have any friends.

01:55:48.000 I don't like people.

01:55:49.000 I don't want to be around people.

01:55:51.000 If you've got a guy who's a fighter pilot, he's like, I don't hang around with fire pilots.

01:55:55.000 He's probably really depressed.

01:55:57.000 Something's wrong with him.

01:55:58.000 If you don't hang out with your peers, if you don't have friends, you don't enjoy camaraderie and community, you want to pretend that you're like this isolated, dark poet or something like that, you're probably very mentally ill.

01:56:09.000 There's probably something really wrong with you.

01:56:10.000 We're hardwired social species.

01:56:12.000 Yes, 100%.

01:56:13.000 And we enjoy each other's company.

01:56:16.000 We feed off of it.

01:56:18.000 It's the worst thing they can do for you in jail is put you in solitary confinement.

01:56:21.000 The worst thing they can do, you're in a fucking...

01:56:24.000 You're in a giant cage filled with prisoners and rapists and murderers.

01:56:28.000 The worst thing they could do is leave you alone.

01:56:30.000 Well, that's why I believe the internet's bad is because it's fake community.

01:56:34.000 Right.

01:56:34.000 Yeah.

01:56:35.000 Right.

01:56:36.000 And that's why people talk like a fake way.

01:56:38.000 Right.

01:56:39.000 They don't talk like they would ever talk if they were right in front of people.

01:56:41.000 Right, right, right.

01:56:42.000 And that's why I think it's bad, because it's messing with people's sense of what reality is, and people are essentially disassociating when they're on there.

01:56:47.000 Exactly, right, yeah, exactly.

01:56:49.000 And it's just, it's a very shallow way to communicate, and I think that if you do it like that all the time, your ability to communicate normally and the ability to socialize and just have conversations with people gets severely stunted.

01:57:04.000 You don't flex that.

01:57:06.000 You don't use that muscle.

01:57:08.000 And it atrophies, just like everything else.

01:57:10.000 It's just there's so many kids that are completely socially disconnected other than the internet, which keeps them connected.

01:57:16.000 So they're socially connected through technology, but completely disconnected through human touch, being around people, fun conversation.

01:57:27.000 Adventure, doing fun things.

01:57:29.000 Yeah.

01:57:30.000 They just exist in the same area and just get as much coming through the screen as they can.

01:57:35.000 Yeah.

01:57:36.000 It's crazy.

01:57:37.000 It's fake.

01:57:37.000 It's not real.

01:57:38.000 Yeah.

01:57:38.000 That's what's troubling, and that's what I worry about my kids.

01:57:41.000 Right.

01:57:41.000 I want them to have human connection, long conversations, experience people's energy.

01:57:47.000 Looking at someone in the eyes is everything.

01:57:50.000 Yeah.

01:57:50.000 You know, feeling someone's energy, like you said.

01:57:52.000 You don't feel anything.

01:57:54.000 The problem also with kids is even when they're together, they're on their phones all the time.

01:57:57.000 That's a problem.

01:57:58.000 And this is one thing about podcasts that's fucking amazing because podcasts are one of the rare times in my life where for three hours, I have no phone.

01:58:06.000 For three hours, unless I'm checking something or sending Jamie something, I don't...

01:58:10.000 And the people listening are also doing the same thing.

01:58:12.000 They're connecting to you without doing that.

01:58:14.000 Yeah, they're just connecting to hearing you.

01:58:17.000 It's like a long radio show.

01:58:19.000 They're not like...

01:58:20.000 It's beautiful.

01:58:21.000 Flipping through, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.

01:58:23.000 Talking to other people and they're talking back and everyone's pretending like there's somebody else and catfishing each other.

01:58:29.000 That's why I always used to like planes back in the day before Wi-Fi came around.

01:58:33.000 Because when you were on a plane, if you didn't have a movie to watch or something like that, you just had to sit in that seat.

01:58:40.000 And when you just sit in that seat and you know you can't go anywhere, I would get my best writing done.

01:58:44.000 Right.

01:58:45.000 My best writing.

01:58:46.000 Because I'm, like, forced to write.

01:58:47.000 Sure.

01:58:48.000 I'm forced.

01:58:49.000 There's no Wi-Fi.

01:58:50.000 Have you ever tried to go to the bathroom without your phone, though?

01:58:52.000 Oh, it's horrible.

01:58:53.000 I can't even pee.

01:58:54.000 It doesn't even work.

01:58:55.000 It's impossible, yeah.

01:58:56.000 My detrusor muscle or whatever that muscle is that pushes out your pee, it won't come out. 0.67

01:59:00.000 If I got to poop really bad and I only got, like, 1%, I will go plug it in and hold my shit until I can get enough to shit through.

01:59:06.000 I can't do it.

01:59:06.000 That's why I think...

01:59:08.000 I bet you there's a spike in anxiety when people have to have their phones put away at a comedy show or a music show or whatever.

01:59:16.000 Oh, for sure.

01:59:16.000 I bet you their anxiety goes through the roof because they're like, I can't, you know?

01:59:20.000 People complain all the time.

01:59:21.000 It's the best thing.

01:59:22.000 And you do that at the Mothership, right?

01:59:23.000 Yeah.

01:59:24.000 It's the best.

01:59:24.000 It's the best thing.

01:59:25.000 It's better for everybody, too.

01:59:27.000 It's better for the audience member.

01:59:28.000 It's better for you.

01:59:29.000 It's better for everybody.

01:59:31.000 If you were going to get eaten, would you rather it be an animal or a human?

01:59:38.000 You have to get eaten.

01:59:39.000 An animal.

01:59:40.000 You don't want a cannibal to eat you?

01:59:41.000 Yeah, I don't want some guy knowing he's eating me.

01:59:43.000 You don't want him to have that power.

01:59:45.000 Yeah, fuck that.

01:59:47.000 Alligator.

01:59:48.000 Crocodile.

01:59:48.000 Quick.

01:59:49.000 It would be quick.

01:59:50.000 How about a hippo?

01:59:50.000 Just snap you in half.

01:59:52.000 You'd be dead in seconds.

01:59:53.000 They drown you, right?

01:59:54.000 Yeah, they just rip you apart.

01:59:56.000 You don't want hyenas to eat you.

01:59:57.000 No.

01:59:58.000 You do not want that.

01:59:59.000 Because what do they do?

01:59:59.000 They eat you alive?

02:00:00.000 They have no concern about putting you down, killing you.

02:00:04.000 A cat will kill you. 0.99

02:00:08.000 Make sure you're dead before it eats you.

02:00:09.000 Hyenas just start eating you. 1.00

02:00:11.000 Yeah, same as bears.

02:00:12.000 Bears just start eating you.

02:00:13.000 They just start eating you.

02:00:14.000 Wolves just start eating you.

02:00:16.000 Don't hyenas then throw up the food and then eat their puke?

02:00:19.000 That's how they nourish themselves.

02:00:21.000 True story.

02:00:21.000 Yeah, they're the only animal that eats the full bone.

02:00:24.000 Only animal on the planet that pulverizes the bone.

02:00:27.000 Their jaw strength is such that they pulverize the bone and consume the bone as well.

02:00:32.000 So when they're done, there's no carcass.

02:00:34.000 They're the fucking best animal on the planet.

02:00:37.000 They got pseudo-penises.

02:00:38.000 They're transgender animals. 1.00

02:00:40.000 They're fucking wild.

02:00:41.000 The women are bigger than the men. 0.67

02:00:43.000 I loved your bit about it.

02:00:44.000 They smell too bad.

02:00:45.000 And we started the podcast because hyenas have always been my favorite animal, and we both loved history, and so we just combined those two things.

02:00:52.000 But hyenas are hilarious, dude.

02:00:54.000 What was your bit about hyenas?

02:00:55.000 I didn't hear it.

02:00:55.000 It was great.

02:00:56.000 It was a long bit.

02:00:57.000 Oh, okay.

02:00:57.000 It's a long bit.

02:00:58.000 It's a good bit.

02:00:59.000 It's basically about their matriarchal power structure. 1.00

02:01:03.000 Why that's bad.

02:01:04.000 Well, it's also, they had to do that because male hyenas are such cunts, they'd probably eat the babies. 1.00

02:01:08.000 Yeah.

02:01:09.000 They're monsters.

02:01:11.000 But they're like a medium-sized animal in a world of things way bigger than them.

02:01:15.000 So they're living around lions.

02:01:17.000 They get it done.

02:01:18.000 They trick you.

02:01:20.000 Numbers.

02:01:21.000 They confuse you.

02:01:22.000 They're opportunity killers.

02:01:23.000 They love to steal kills. 0.99

02:01:26.000 That laughing is real.

02:01:27.000 That cackle.

02:01:27.000 That's a real thing.

02:01:29.000 They don't really know what it is either.

02:01:30.000 They don't actually know what exactly.

02:01:33.000 It sounds like they're having a good time.

02:01:35.000 Yeah, they're just having fun.

02:01:36.000 They're fucking brutal.

02:01:37.000 Lions are like these fucking hyenas again.

02:01:39.000 Dude, the hyenas just spoil fun. 0.91

02:01:41.000 They show up and you're like, these fuck...

02:01:43.000 You ever see when like a cheetah works so hard?

02:01:47.000 Yeah.

02:01:47.000 Because cheetahs fail all the time.

02:01:49.000 And then they finally get a kill and then you just hear the...

02:01:52.000 You just hear the...

02:01:53.000 And the cheetah's probably going, motherfucker! 1.00

02:01:55.000 And they just come and they just steal it.

02:01:57.000 That whole area, when you think about it, is like the proving ground for, like, biological life.

02:02:04.000 Yeah.

02:02:04.000 Like, how are you going to keep the populations in order?

02:02:08.000 How are you going to make sure the predators don't get out of hand?

02:02:10.000 How are you going to make sure that the hyenas always have to worry about the male lions?

02:02:14.000 Look at that face, man.

02:02:15.000 Yeah!

02:02:16.000 Look at that face.

02:02:17.000 Yeah!

02:02:17.000 That face is so crazy.

02:02:20.000 Yeah.

02:02:20.000 I don't want to get eaten by that.

02:02:21.000 Just crushing jaw muscles.

02:02:23.000 Yeah.

02:02:23.000 I think...

02:02:24.000 Oh, my God.

02:02:24.000 Look at that face.

02:02:25.000 That's so nuts.

02:02:26.000 Yeah.

02:02:27.000 Imagine that's the last thing you see before you get eaten.

02:02:30.000 I don't know why they're funny to me.

02:02:32.000 How many people die from hyenas every day?

02:02:33.000 They eat a lot of people.

02:02:34.000 Do they?

02:02:35.000 Yeah.

02:02:35.000 Remember that picture that we saw of a hyena?

02:02:37.000 It's got an elephant's foot in its mouth.

02:02:39.000 Yeah.

02:02:39.000 It's just running around with an elephant's foot.

02:02:41.000 Fucking monsters.

02:02:42.000 That was actually our first logo.

02:02:44.000 We put our faces on that.

02:02:46.000 And then we tried to sell merch at us, and people were like, I'm not buying this bloody hyena for these fucking idiots.

02:02:50.000 Yeah, and also, it's not our picture to sell.

02:02:52.000 Jamie, how many people die from hyenas every year?

02:02:55.000 Hippos kill the most people in Africa, right?

02:02:57.000 Do they?

02:02:57.000 Yeah, I believe so.

02:02:59.000 I believe hippos are responsible for the most deaths in Africa.

02:03:01.000 What are they, like, is there a village or something that, like, lives close to the hippos in Africa?

02:03:05.000 I think if you fuck around and you get in the water near your hippos, you ever see hippos chasing boats?

02:03:09.000 They'll chase boats. 0.96

02:03:10.000 Looks like a fucking submarine.

02:03:12.000 Super territorial.

02:03:13.000 Yeah, they're rough, man.

02:03:15.000 Yeah.

02:03:15.000 You think of them as hunger, hunger, hippo.

02:03:17.000 We make the most monstrous animals the cutest.

02:03:20.000 Polar bears, hippos, yogi.

02:03:23.000 Yeah, teddy bears.

02:03:25.000 Every kid has a teddy bear.

02:03:26.000 You're like, you don't want a real bear.

02:03:27.000 Tony the tiger.

02:03:28.000 Yeah, right?

02:03:29.000 Tony the tiger.

02:03:30.000 How many people every year die?

02:03:32.000 Let's take a guess before we find out.

02:03:33.000 How many people die from hyenas every year?

02:03:35.000 You ready for this?

02:03:36.000 I'm going to say that I think in the world 50 people die of hyenas and I think 75 die of cannibals. 0.99

02:03:45.000 Whoa.

02:03:46.000 That's why I think more people get eaten by other people than hyenas.

02:03:49.000 Wow.

02:03:50.000 1575 is my guess.

02:03:51.000 How would you...

02:03:52.000 You'd have to count into places where people do it for revenge, too, like Haiti.

02:03:56.000 Right.

02:03:56.000 They eat people for fun.

02:03:58.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

02:03:59.000 That counts.

02:04:00.000 Papua New Guinea.

02:04:01.000 Yeah.

02:04:02.000 I think there's a very low number of cannibals.

02:04:07.000 Every year where people get eaten by cannibals.

02:04:09.000 I would say it's less than 20 people eaten by cannibals. 0.84

02:04:12.000 This is my guess.

02:04:13.000 And maybe 75 people every year die from hyenas.

02:04:18.000 I'm going to go 800 to 1,000.

02:04:21.000 Hyenas? 0.93

02:04:22.000 On the whole continent, uh, Serengeti, yeah, I mean, Africa, yeah, I'm gonna go- Every year?

02:04:26.000 Thousand, yeah, I'm gonna go a thousand.

02:04:28.000 What about cannibals? 1.00

02:04:30.000 Cannibals, I think, is a lot higher.

02:04:32.000 I mean, how are we ever gonna get that number?

02:04:33.000 Nobody eats somebody and then goes and reports it.

02:04:35.000 Right.

02:04:36.000 Yeah, so that's impossible to know.

02:04:38.000 Right.

02:04:38.000 But I think hyenas, you can track, and I think they probably get hundreds.

02:04:42.000 But ask Google, because Google tells you the truth.

02:04:44.000 I bet it's not that many.

02:04:45.000 I bet it's not that many.

02:04:47.000 What do we got, oh?

02:04:49.000 It took me a while to find an answer.

02:04:50.000 I found one story where a guy was killed by someone that said it was the 60th in that year, but I didn't know what year it was.

02:04:56.000 60th hyena or cannibal?

02:04:58.000 Hyena death in that year.

02:04:59.000 Wow, I said 50. Sorry, person killed by hyenas, I should say.

02:05:03.000 Okay.

02:05:04.000 Yeah, this is 1998 to 99, 50 people were attacked by hyenas with 35 being children, 12 people killed.

02:05:11.000 Only 12 killed.

02:05:15.000 Yeah, I'm not seeing tons of good info.

02:05:17.000 All right, so is wrong.

02:05:18.000 If you're in that part of the world, you better be packing everywhere you go.

02:05:22.000 Yeah, we need it.

02:05:22.000 Bulletproof vest, shotgun, big bowie knife, fucking everything.

02:05:27.000 Yeah.

02:05:27.000 You're walking around a hyena country, you better be ready to spray.

02:05:31.000 Yeah.

02:05:31.000 Since their attacks are actually kind of rare.

02:05:33.000 Oh, okay.

02:05:33.000 Hyena attacks?

02:05:34.000 Who gets people the most over there?

02:05:36.000 Hippos?

02:05:37.000 Lions, maybe?

02:05:38.000 Oh, hippos, he said.

02:05:39.000 I think hippos.

02:05:40.000 I think hippos are responsible for the most deaths in Africa every year.

02:05:43.000 But you know who really is responsible for the most deaths in Africa?

02:05:46.000 Humans.

02:05:47.000 Mosquitoes.

02:05:47.000 Oh, yeah.

02:05:48.000 Yeah, of course.

02:05:49.000 Which is so crazy.

02:05:50.000 They've killed half of all the people that have ever died.

02:05:54.000 Mosquitoes have, right? 0.77

02:05:55.000 Mosquitoes have killed half of the people that have ever died.

02:05:58.000 It's crazy.

02:05:59.000 Malaria.

02:06:00.000 The most dangerous animal on the planet.

02:06:02.000 It makes you think, like, is this our planet or is it their planet?

02:06:04.000 Yeah.

02:06:05.000 Hippopotamus, animal that kills the most people in Africa with an estimated 500 deaths per year.

02:06:09.000 Wow.

02:06:10.000 Fuck.

02:06:11.000 500 people get hippoed every year.

02:06:14.000 20 miles an hour they can run?

02:06:15.000 Yeah.

02:06:16.000 That's real shit.

02:06:17.000 Oh, it's real shit.

02:06:17.000 If you have a bad knee, you're in real trouble.

02:06:19.000 Yeah.

02:06:20.000 Cape buffalo, they kill a bunch of people every year.

02:06:25.000 Puff adder.

02:06:26.000 Okay.

02:06:27.000 That's a snake.

02:06:28.000 Snake makes sense.

02:06:30.000 How many people do you think die from African lions every year?

02:06:34.000 I was thinking it was going to be a lot, like 100, but I guess I'm wrong.

02:06:38.000 Well, if hippos are 500, it can't be 100. Like, let's just guess.

02:06:43.000 How many people die from lions?

02:06:45.000 If hyenas are, I'm going to say 18. 18?

02:06:48.000 Yeah, because I think more people die from hyenas than lions?

02:06:51.000 Yeah, I think so.

02:06:53.000 Well, that was like in the 80s and it was only 12 people died.

02:06:55.000 But who's getting close to the lions like this?

02:06:57.000 Asshole!

02:06:59.000 Well, they also live out there.

02:07:00.000 I mean, a lot of tribes live out there.

02:07:03.000 They're close by.

02:07:03.000 There's a village in Africa, I saw, it was on Nat Geo, that hyenas come in and get fed there.

02:07:09.000 Yeah, I saw that.

02:07:09.000 Hyenas walk into, you saw that, right?

02:07:11.000 Yeah, so they have a deal.

02:07:12.000 So they have a deal, and it actually, they believe, helps keep them safe, because the hyenas know they don't have to kill anyone, they'll just get the food.

02:07:18.000 Yeah, these are good.

02:07:19.000 These are coffee.

02:07:20.000 Ooh, nice.

02:07:20.000 They're breakers.

02:07:21.000 Yeah.

02:07:22.000 I think that's probably smart.

02:07:24.000 Like, make friends with the hyenas.

02:07:26.000 Why not?

02:07:26.000 They understand.

02:07:27.000 A lot of guys try to keep them as pets.

02:07:28.000 You ever see the dudes who walk around with them with chains on them and shit?

02:07:31.000 That'd be wild.

02:07:32.000 That's a gangster move.

02:07:33.000 You walk around with a fucking hyena?

02:07:34.000 Because they're big, too.

02:07:35.000 Dude, if we ever do like a...

02:07:37.000 What's a hyena?

02:07:37.000 Like a buck fifty?

02:07:38.000 So it's like a mastiff-looking size?

02:07:40.000 Yeah, it's kind of like probably a German Shepherd or mastiff-looking.

02:07:43.000 Bigger than a Shepherd, right?

02:07:44.000 Probably.

02:07:45.000 I don't know, because they're not that...

02:07:49.000 They're kind of compact, so I don't know what their weight would be.

02:07:52.000 Can you get them in the U.S.? You can't get a hyena in here, right?

02:07:54.000 Maybe get them in Texas.

02:07:55.000 Yeah.

02:07:56.000 Or Florida.

02:07:56.000 Texas has a lot of shit here.

02:07:58.000 Like, could you bring one out on stage on a show, like if you've got clearance?

02:08:01.000 If you were Ted Nugent.

02:08:02.000 Ted Nugent in Texas could bring hyenas on stage.

02:08:04.000 He'll bring one out.

02:08:05.000 He used to ride a buffalo when he was on stage.

02:08:07.000 You ever see that?

02:08:08.000 Yeah.

02:08:08.000 You ever see Ted Nugent riding a buffalo?

02:08:10.000 No.

02:08:10.000 He had a buffalo that he could ride, and he would ride it on stage.

02:08:16.000 Like, he's doing a show, and he's on a fucking buffalo in front of all these people.

02:08:20.000 You know, Ted Nugent is the only guy who I've ever heard who made me understand meat eating and how it's no less moral than...

02:08:29.000 He's the only guy who made it make sense in my head.

02:08:32.000 He goes, oh, you think you're a good person because you're only eating the vegetables?

02:08:36.000 And then he talked about how many animals have to be killed in order to keep those vegetables from being eaten by other animals.

02:08:43.000 Right.

02:08:44.000 Right.

02:08:45.000 Fighting Buffalo.

02:08:46.000 Wildcat.

02:08:47.000 Wow.

02:08:48.000 His son owns a bar on Staten Island.

02:08:54.000 And I didn't know.

02:08:55.000 Rocco?

02:08:56.000 Oh, the kid didn't know he was his son.

02:08:58.000 Yes, you met this kid?

02:08:59.000 The kid that he didn't know was his son.

02:09:01.000 Ted Jr., and he was like, yeah, Ted Nugent's my pop.

02:09:03.000 He's a really cool guy.

02:09:04.000 And I was like, oh shit.

02:09:05.000 He was like, yeah, dude, it's pretty fucking wild.

02:09:07.000 But you ever hear him explain that?

02:09:08.000 And I was like, oh yeah.

02:09:09.000 Explain it on this podcast.

02:09:10.000 Oh, he did?

02:09:10.000 Is that what it was from?

02:09:11.000 Yeah.

02:09:12.000 Oh my God, I was like, oh yeah.

02:09:13.000 There's a red curtain behind him.

02:09:14.000 Yeah, that's right!

02:09:14.000 Yeah.

02:09:15.000 And I was like, oh my God, nobody ever thinks of that.

02:09:17.000 What is Ted Nugent famous?

02:09:19.000 Was he a politician?

02:09:20.000 What was Ted Nugent?

02:09:21.000 Stranglehold, son.

02:09:22.000 You don't ever heard of Stranglehold?

02:09:24.000 You never heard that song?

02:09:25.000 No.

02:09:26.000 Here I come again now, baby!

02:09:29.000 You don't know that song?

02:09:30.000 Oh my God, you know it.

02:09:30.000 No.

02:09:31.000 Play Stranglehold.

02:09:32.000 Yeah, I'm sorry.

02:09:33.000 So he was a musician.

02:09:34.000 It's one of the greatest guitar riffs in all of rock and roll.

02:09:37.000 I just...

02:09:41.000 I'm gonna be honest if I know it.

02:09:44.000 Come on, son.

02:09:45.000 So far, it's not ringing a bell.

02:09:54.000 Hold up.

02:09:57.000 It's just picking up, son.

02:09:58.000 Here we go.

02:09:59.000 You know what?

02:10:07.000 No.

02:10:08.000 You don't know it.

02:10:09.000 How dare you.

02:10:09.000 Hold up.

02:10:10.000 I don't think so.

02:10:11.000 I've heard this song.

02:10:20.000 Yes, yeah.

02:10:20.000 Now I've heard that part.

02:10:22.000 Hold up.

02:10:23.000 This is a huge, huge hit.

02:10:46.000 I don't...

02:10:48.000 I don't know it.

02:10:49.000 Who's the best guitarist of all time?

02:10:51.000 Hendrix.

02:10:52.000 Billy Ray?

02:10:54.000 Hendrix.

02:10:54.000 Hendrix?

02:10:55.000 Hold up.

02:10:55.000 All right, we're good.

02:10:57.000 Stranglehold.

02:10:58.000 Yeah.

02:10:58.000 So he's a big musician.

02:10:59.000 He's famous for that.

02:11:00.000 Cat's Crash Fever, another big song.

02:11:02.000 Okay.

02:11:02.000 Had a bunch of good songs.

02:11:03.000 But then what happened?

02:11:04.000 Then he got into politics and stuff?

02:11:05.000 Well, he's a bow hunter and very vocal about social issues.

02:11:11.000 That's cool.

02:11:12.000 And kind of a maniac.

02:11:13.000 Right.

02:11:14.000 Yeah, he's kind of a nutty dude, but he's fun.

02:11:16.000 Yeah.

02:11:16.000 So then how does he have a son in Staten Island that I know?

02:11:18.000 Well, his son, you know, I think he didn't know it was his son, right?

02:11:23.000 It was one of those deals.

02:11:23.000 But they're close.

02:11:24.000 They're a relationship.

02:11:25.000 But he has another son, his son Rocco, that I've met.

02:11:28.000 Right.

02:11:29.000 He's a fun guy.

02:11:31.000 Yeah.

02:11:33.000 I like him.

02:11:34.000 It's a powerful native rock, though.

02:11:35.000 I don't agree with everything he says, but that's the case with a lot of people.

02:11:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:11:39.000 To each their own.

02:11:40.000 I think Hendrix is the greatest when it comes to guitarists, because Hendrix changed songs with his guitar.

02:11:47.000 Eric Clapton famously, when he saw Hendrix play for the first time, was like, what am I doing?

02:11:51.000 Why am I even doing it?

02:11:52.000 This is Eric Clapton.

02:11:53.000 Eric Clapton.

02:11:54.000 Layla.

02:11:56.000 I mean, he was amazing.

02:11:58.000 How about Billy Ray Vaughn though?

02:11:59.000 Stevie Ray Vaughn.

02:12:00.000 Sorry, Stevie Ray Vaughn.

02:12:01.000 Jesus Christ.

02:12:02.000 Yeah, Stevie Ray.

02:12:03.000 Tim Pan Alley.

02:12:04.000 Amazing.

02:12:05.000 He used to play at our club.

02:12:06.000 I can't believe I said Billy Ray Vaughn.

02:12:08.000 I got him confused with Billy Ray Cyrus.

02:12:10.000 Billy Ray Cyrus.

02:12:11.000 Don't tell my heart.

02:12:13.000 My achy breaky heart.

02:12:14.000 Yeah, Jesus Christ.

02:12:16.000 Tim Pan Alley is one of my favorite songs.

02:12:18.000 Have you ever seen in the corridor of the, when you're going on stage at the mothership, those photos of Stevie Ray Vaughn?

02:12:23.000 Those are him on stage at the Ritz.

02:12:25.000 Oh, crazy.

02:12:26.000 From 1983. Wow.

02:12:27.000 Yeah, he performed there a bunch of times.

02:12:29.000 Yeah.

02:12:30.000 Willie Nelson performed there.

02:12:31.000 Crazy.

02:12:32.000 Yeah.

02:12:32.000 Yeah, that place has some history.

02:12:34.000 Oh, you could feel it, dude.

02:12:35.000 Yeah.

02:12:35.000 It's burned in there.

02:12:36.000 Yeah.

02:12:36.000 I brought in Ghost Hunters to check it out.

02:12:39.000 Sam and Colby, I brought in Ghost Hunters.

02:12:42.000 Did they find it?

02:12:43.000 I don't know.

02:12:44.000 Yeah.

02:12:44.000 I don't know.

02:12:45.000 It's fun.

02:12:45.000 Yeah.

02:12:46.000 It's fun.

02:12:47.000 Yeah.

02:12:47.000 I don't know what's real.

02:12:48.000 Yeah.

02:12:49.000 But someone was murdered there.

02:12:50.000 Someone was definitely shot there, I think, in the 70s.

02:12:53.000 Right.

02:12:54.000 At least one person.

02:12:55.000 It used to be a nudie movie theater, and it was a pool hall.

02:12:58.000 So it was like a nudie movie theater, a pool hall.

02:13:01.000 It was a punk rock club.

02:13:03.000 There's like a lot of history in there.

02:13:04.000 A lot of people of the night in there.

02:13:06.000 Do you think it's possible that it was built on an Indian burial ground?

02:13:11.000 It's so much better that you fucked that up.

02:13:14.000 You know, there used to be a swastika on the wall.

02:13:17.000 Oh yeah?

02:13:17.000 Yeah.

02:13:18.000 So when we tore down, so there's like, you know, a wallboard, and you tear down the wallboard, you get to the raw brick, and in the raw brick there's a fucking swastika on the wall.

02:13:29.000 And we're like, this is crazy.

02:13:31.000 And so while we're building the place up, you know, I come in like four months later.

02:13:35.000 I'm like, hey guys, why is the fucking swastika still here?

02:13:38.000 Like, we're gonna open in like six months.

02:13:41.000 You gotta get rid of the swastika. 0.91

02:13:42.000 So they tell one of the construction guys to take off the paint.

02:13:46.000 Where the swastika is.

02:13:47.000 And so you know what he does?

02:13:48.000 He takes it off in the shape of the swastika.

02:13:51.000 So he cleans up.

02:13:53.000 So now it's brighter.

02:13:54.000 Now it's like bright white.

02:13:55.000 I'm like, hey, it's still a fucking swastika.

02:13:58.000 Get it off the wall.

02:14:00.000 Jesus Christ.

02:14:01.000 Was it the swastika from like the Hindu symbol before?

02:14:04.000 No, no, no, no.

02:14:05.000 It was probably from the punk rock days.

02:14:07.000 Somebody probably thought they were being crazy.

02:14:11.000 Yeah, probably someone being a rebel.

02:14:14.000 I'm a rebel.

02:14:15.000 And they threw it up.

02:14:16.000 Yeah, they threw it up.

02:14:17.000 They painted it on the wall, and it stayed there.

02:14:19.000 Wow.

02:14:20.000 Yeah.

02:14:21.000 They never cleaned it up!

02:14:22.000 I'm like, this is so crazy!

02:14:24.000 That reminds me of the old punchline in Atlanta that had the Vince Champ signature.

02:14:28.000 This is Red Hot Chili Peppers.

02:14:30.000 Oh, wow.

02:14:31.000 Just fully naked on stage.

02:14:33.000 Yeah, with socks over their dicks, remember? 1.00

02:14:35.000 Oh, yeah.

02:14:35.000 Yeah.

02:14:36.000 They used to do that.

02:14:36.000 That was a good move back then.

02:14:38.000 Yeah.

02:14:39.000 You'd get away with that.

02:14:40.000 Show your pubes. 0.97

02:14:42.000 Why not?

02:14:42.000 Cover your balls in your cack with a sock.

02:14:44.000 Throw it up.

02:14:44.000 Cack!

02:14:45.000 They got good bodies, nice lean bods.

02:14:47.000 They did, yeah.

02:14:48.000 They're still going.

02:14:48.000 I saw a thing that said hunter-gatherers, their bodies, not only the flexibility they had is unmatched, but they actually had bigger brains.

02:14:56.000 You ever see this, that they actually think that they were smarter than us?

02:14:59.000 They have bigger heads and bigger brains? 0.99

02:15:01.000 Well, they probably had to process a lot of things.

02:15:02.000 It's like, what is smart?

02:15:03.000 Is it smart to just be able to use ChatGPT and find answers to things?

02:15:07.000 Or is it smart to have to figure stuff out about nature to stay alive?

02:15:11.000 Right.

02:15:11.000 You know, there's different kinds of intelligence.

02:15:13.000 If you take, like, the smartest guy ever and you let him loose in the Amazon, how long is he going to live?

02:15:18.000 He's not going to live very long.

02:15:19.000 Stephen Hawking's not going to make it.

02:15:20.000 Hunter-gatherers generally had larger brains compared to later human populations as the demands of their lifestyle, including complex foraging strategies and navigating diverse environments, lightly put selective pressure on the evolution of larger brain capacity for problem solving and planning.

02:15:34.000 That makes sense.

02:15:36.000 Expensive tissue hypothesis, interesting, which suggests that a diet rich in meat allowed for the energy expenditure needed to maintain a larger brain.

02:15:45.000 Did you see those, you know, they found a new population of humans that existed as recently as, I think, 100,000 years ago?

02:15:57.000 But they found them in China and they have much larger heads.

02:16:00.000 Really?

02:16:01.000 Yeah.

02:16:01.000 They thought they were Denisovans, I think, at one point in time, which also is a fairly new discovery.

02:16:07.000 They found Denisovans in 2010. But this is another one.

02:16:11.000 This is another new species of human being that they studied that they found, rather.

02:16:16.000 And they had large heads.

02:16:18.000 Haven't they found, like, 12, like, 11 different hominids now? 0.99

02:16:20.000 There's quite a few.

02:16:21.000 There's quite a few.

02:16:22.000 You know, including the really controversial ones, like Homo floriensis or floriessis, I I forgot how to say it.

02:16:29.000 What was that one?

02:16:29.000 That was the Hobbit people.

02:16:30.000 The Island of Flores.

02:16:31.000 They were little tiny three foot tall people.

02:16:33.000 Squeaks.

02:16:33.000 Little squeaks.

02:16:34.000 Little twinks.

02:16:35.000 Late 1970s.

02:16:36.000 Yeah, there it is.

02:16:37.000 Homo Juliensis.

02:16:40.000 Fossils began belonging to 16 individuals were found in two different locations in China.

02:16:45.000 They appeared to belong to unique species, thousands of artifacts, stone tools, and animal bones.

02:16:50.000 This one is the larger headed one.

02:16:54.000 Is that the same one?

02:16:56.000 Is that it?

02:16:57.000 Because it says in the late 70s, fossils.

02:16:59.000 I think this is large.

02:17:02.000 I know I have a photo of it.

02:17:04.000 Here, I'll send it to you.

02:17:05.000 Where's my phone?

02:17:06.000 I know I have.

02:17:07.000 I saved it because I wanted to look at it.

02:17:09.000 Yeah, Dragon Man.

02:17:10.000 That's it.

02:17:12.000 Newly complete skull discovered in China in 1930 is a basis for the proposed new human species, Homo longi, that's it, known as Dragon Man.

02:17:20.000 Skulls found in 33 Shanghua River in Harbin, China, where a bridge was being built.

02:17:25.000 Okay, so the skull is a combination of ancient and modern features, including a large brain similar to modern humans and Neanderthals, a low forehead.

02:17:33.000 I hope this was it.

02:17:35.000 But how do they know that these are, couldn't it just be like a weird looking kid?

02:17:38.000 Like if me and Giannis were laying down, you found our skeletons, you would think we might be different types of species.

02:17:42.000 I mean, he's got a peanut head and I have a head like a Cro-Magnon. 0.97

02:17:44.000 Good point, right?

02:17:45.000 If you found Shaq buried right next to Bridget the Midget. 0.96

02:17:49.000 It could just be different people.

02:17:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:17:51.000 That is.

02:17:51.000 Good point.

02:17:52.000 You want to talk about fumes.

02:17:53.000 These kids definitely have fumes. 0.67

02:17:55.000 Neanderthals.

02:17:55.000 Oh my God, dude.

02:17:56.000 What did they smell like?

02:17:57.000 Must have been bad, dude.

02:17:59.000 Yeah, big time.

02:18:00.000 Yeah.

02:18:01.000 Here, Jamie, I think this is a different thing.

02:18:03.000 I'm gonna send it to you right now.

02:18:04.000 I'm gonna send you the title.

02:18:05.000 I just saved it on my phone so I could look at it later.

02:18:08.000 I didn't really look at it too much.

02:18:10.000 Right.

02:18:11.000 But they keep finding these new versions of humans.

02:18:15.000 Right.

02:18:15.000 So it's like, how many of them were there?

02:18:17.000 And why did we succeed?

02:18:18.000 Like, what was so great about it?

02:18:19.000 I think we were most vicious, right?

02:18:21.000 Dogs.

02:18:21.000 And we just killed off the other ones?

02:18:22.000 Dogs.

02:18:23.000 You think dogs?

02:18:24.000 Dogs.

02:18:24.000 That's the answer.

02:18:25.000 I know, dude.

02:18:26.000 Yeah.

02:18:26.000 You're 100% positive.

02:18:27.000 My Street Smart says it.

02:18:29.000 Science says it.

02:18:31.000 It's nation, you know, the understanding of how, but it's pretty solid that that's what gave us the edge.

02:18:39.000 That we domesticated dogs.

02:18:41.000 We teamed up with dogs and we had a symbiotic relationship and we were able to protect ourselves better.

02:18:47.000 So this is it.

02:18:49.000 Large head people.

02:18:50.000 Mysterious new form of ancient human emerges. 0.95

02:18:53.000 This is it.

02:18:54.000 So a provocative new piece in Nature has proposed a whole new group of ancient humans, cousins of the Denisovans and Neanderthals, that once lived alongside Homo sapiens in Eastern Asia more than 100,000 years ago.

02:19:05.000 Brains of these extinct humans who probably hunted horses in small groups were much bigger than any other hominin of their time, including our own species. 0.85

02:19:13.000 This is it.

02:19:15.000 The large head people, yeah.

02:19:17.000 So that's it.

02:19:18.000 It is that name, though.

02:19:19.000 Oh, no, no.

02:19:20.000 In the past, it says.

02:19:21.000 Some scientists have attributed to it.

02:19:23.000 But that's not what they're saying.

02:19:25.000 So they think it's different.

02:19:26.000 The Denisovans is what it says.

02:19:28.000 Some scientists have attributed the Jullurin fossils to Denisovans.

02:19:31.000 Right.

02:19:32.000 In the past.

02:19:35.000 So now they think it's a totally different thing, right?

02:19:37.000 I didn't know people ate horses.

02:19:38.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:39.000 Has every animal been eaten?

02:19:40.000 Oh, a lot of people eat horses, man.

02:19:42.000 Yeah, still right now.

02:19:43.000 In fact, Shavkat Rakhmanov, the number one contender in the welterweight division, he says it's his favorite food.

02:19:47.000 Horse meat?

02:19:48.000 Yeah, he's from Kazakhstan.

02:19:49.000 Interesting.

02:19:49.000 He rides horses and he eats horses.

02:19:51.000 He's like, I love horses.

02:19:53.000 He loves them all the way.

02:19:54.000 You ever tried it?

02:19:55.000 Yeah, I've had a horse.

02:19:56.000 Good?

02:19:56.000 I had it in Montreal.

02:19:57.000 There's a restaurant in Montreal, one of the best restaurants in the world.

02:20:00.000 Shout out to Joe Beef.

02:20:02.000 Oh, of course.

02:20:02.000 Oh, yeah.

02:20:03.000 Incredible place.

02:20:04.000 And we went there, Ari and I, we had, I went with Duncan too, we had horse tartare and we had horse loin.

02:20:11.000 And it was good.

02:20:12.000 Fucking really good.

02:20:13.000 It's game.

02:20:14.000 It's like wild game.

02:20:15.000 It's like eating an antelope or eating an elk.

02:20:18.000 Right.

02:20:19.000 It's real similar.

02:20:19.000 It's not bad.

02:20:21.000 Yeah.

02:20:21.000 But I remember it was all in the family.

02:20:23.000 When the bunkers were poor, you know, they weren't doing so well, and Edith went to the store and she bought horse meat.

02:20:29.000 And she served it to Archie.

02:20:30.000 And it was like a big deal.

02:20:32.000 I ain't eating this horse.

02:20:35.000 You remember that episode?

02:20:37.000 I never saw it.

02:20:38.000 I don't.

02:20:39.000 But again, another good impression.

02:20:40.000 I remember it was like a real problem in the family that she fed him horse.

02:20:44.000 Horse meat, yeah.

02:20:45.000 But they were so poor, they didn't have any meat.

02:20:47.000 Yeah.

02:20:47.000 Well, I just feel bad for horses.

02:20:49.000 I mean, they lug us around for, you know, They're also very sweet.

02:20:52.000 They're connected to people.

02:20:53.000 I can't eat them.

02:20:54.000 You can get connected to a horse.

02:20:56.000 Yeah.

02:20:56.000 I can't eat horses.

02:20:57.000 I can't eat dogs.

02:20:58.000 I just can't do it.

02:20:58.000 Can't do it.

02:20:59.000 Dogs get eaten a lot, unfortunately, right?

02:21:01.000 I think dogs and humans are connected genetically.

02:21:04.000 I think so, too.

02:21:05.000 I think there's a place in our brain that kind of matches up with them, and we evolve together.

02:21:10.000 Something's up.

02:21:10.000 It's magical.

02:21:11.000 Yeah.

02:21:11.000 My dog, he's a part of my family.

02:21:15.000 I'm connected to that dog.

02:21:16.000 Yeah, me too.

02:21:17.000 See, I don't want a dog, but maybe I should get a dog.

02:21:19.000 You think I should just do it?

02:21:20.000 Dogs are great.

02:21:20.000 But you're a weirdo.

02:21:21.000 You'd probably give them away.

02:21:22.000 I would.

02:21:23.000 You'd probably say, I can't take it anymore, so I gave it to this Puerto Rican family.

02:21:26.000 I did.

02:21:27.000 They raised it to be an attack dog, and I feel bad.

02:21:29.000 Now he's attacking people.

02:21:30.000 I would.

02:21:31.000 I would.

02:21:31.000 I gotta be better with dogs.

02:21:33.000 Like that fucking dream house you got rid of when you moved into the city like a retard? 1.00

02:21:36.000 Like a fucking retard. 1.00

02:21:37.000 And now I bought one that was too expensive because ChatGPT told me to.

02:21:41.000 Why didn't you try to buy your old house back?

02:21:43.000 I did and they won't sell it.

02:21:46.000 The guys won't sell it.

02:21:47.000 But what can I do?

02:21:48.000 What can you do?

02:21:49.000 Don't do that anymore.

02:21:50.000 Call him now.

02:21:52.000 Him and I talk about it.

02:21:53.000 He's a much more logical person.

02:21:54.000 He is.

02:21:55.000 He's more kind of controlled than me.

02:21:59.000 I go a little wild and he kind of keeps me back.

02:22:02.000 I'm not going to say I said it, but I don't know how it controlled them, but it was bought by a Muslim family. 0.93

02:22:07.000 A Palestinian family on October 8th.

02:22:10.000 After October 7th, the next day is when we sold it, October 8th.

02:22:13.000 That October 8th?

02:22:15.000 That October 8th.

02:22:16.000 Palestinians moved in October 8th.

02:22:17.000 Boy, they move quick.

02:22:19.000 Yeah, they came right in.

02:22:20.000 I see the writing on the wall.

02:22:21.000 Well, they see that they're in a place where they can accomplish it.

02:22:25.000 So they're like, we can actually live there.

02:22:26.000 And they just do it.

02:22:27.000 So they moved in big.

02:22:29.000 And my neighbors were kind of mad that we just picked up and left.

02:22:32.000 But what can you do?

02:22:33.000 I had to go.

02:22:33.000 I had to move to Queens.

02:22:34.000 You didn't have to.

02:22:36.000 No.

02:22:36.000 You should have called somebody.

02:22:37.000 That's the time you should call me.

02:22:38.000 Well, now I know.

02:22:39.000 Yeah, please do.

02:22:40.000 I'll be like, what the fuck are you talking about?

02:22:41.000 You're like, you're right, you're right.

02:22:42.000 Yeah, right.

02:22:43.000 As soon as we get out of here, I'm going to call my accountant and see if we can rescind that offer, or are we locked in legally?

02:22:50.000 Because I just found out Chad should be teased liar!

02:22:53.000 Do you get panicky?

02:22:54.000 Oh yeah, I get real panicky.

02:22:55.000 I get real panicky.

02:22:57.000 I still do it because I think I don't do drugs.

02:23:01.000 My father was a compulsive gambler and told me never to gamble, so I thought I escaped because I don't know anything about cards and sports gambling.

02:23:08.000 I don't know anything about it.

02:23:09.000 You do it with life choices.

02:23:10.000 Yes, which is kind of a little riskier.

02:23:12.000 A lot of people do.

02:23:13.000 A lot of life choices.

02:23:14.000 There's gamblers out there.

02:23:15.000 But now I'm looking for peace.

02:23:16.000 I'm looking for my path to peace, so I'm trying to just, you know, be peace.

02:23:20.000 Radical acceptance.

02:23:21.000 Radical acceptance.

02:23:22.000 Being friendly with my present, being gentle with life.

02:23:25.000 Therapy is bad.

02:23:26.000 We're trying, baby.

02:23:27.000 Yeah.

02:23:28.000 Scary.

02:23:29.000 Just run mountains or something.

02:23:30.000 That's what it is.

02:23:31.000 Well, I tried to, but I got a bad Achilles.

02:23:35.000 That can be fixed.

02:23:36.000 I know, but I've been trying for six months.

02:23:38.000 What's wrong with your Achilles?

02:23:38.000 I don't know, man.

02:23:39.000 It hurts.

02:23:40.000 Well, I have tendinosis in the Achilles, and they did the x-ray, and they see some scar tissue in there, so they actually told me...

02:23:45.000 Why don't you get stem cells? 0.91

02:23:46.000 Well, I can't get them in New York.

02:23:47.000 You can get them here.

02:23:48.000 Here?

02:23:48.000 I'll come down here.

02:23:49.000 They told me PRP. That'll help, too.

02:23:51.000 Spin the blood. 0.98

02:23:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:23:52.000 Yeah, platelet-rich plasma.

02:23:54.000 Yeah, I'll do that.

02:23:55.000 Yeah, but you should get stem cells while you're here.

02:23:57.000 How long are you in town for?

02:23:58.000 I go home tonight.

02:23:59.000 Damn, but I can come back.

02:24:01.000 Okay, come back.

02:24:02.000 Are you booked at the club any time?

02:24:05.000 Uh, no.

02:24:06.000 You should come back, and when you come back, we'll set it up to go to Waste Well.

02:24:10.000 Okay.

02:24:11.000 Yeah, and I'll get a little stem cells.

02:24:12.000 Because a buddy of mine, my friend Evan, had a fucked up Achilles.

02:24:15.000 It was bothering him for years, and he got stem cell today, gone, pained out.

02:24:19.000 Really?

02:24:19.000 Yeah, it was bothering him for years.

02:24:20.000 That's me.

02:24:21.000 I've been two years with this.

02:24:22.000 I have a growth on the back of my heel.

02:24:25.000 Oh, from the bone?

02:24:26.000 Yeah, like the bone spur.

02:24:27.000 Getting irritated?

02:24:27.000 Yep, yep, and it's all fucked up.

02:24:30.000 But I do have a clean colon.

02:24:31.000 I had two polyps, but under three centimeters, we're good to go, baby.

02:24:35.000 Congratulations.

02:24:35.000 Clean ass, so does he.

02:24:36.000 We got our colonoscopies a month apart.

02:24:37.000 Everyone should get a colonoscopy starting at 40. Everyone should get it.

02:24:41.000 It's on the rise.

02:24:43.000 You know what you could really do?

02:24:44.000 You could do a comprehensive blood screen to test you for all cancers, not just asshole cancer.

02:24:49.000 Well, they have that now.

02:24:51.000 It's a lot easier and it's better.

02:24:53.000 You never did a colonoscopy?

02:24:54.000 I had one once.

02:24:56.000 Right.

02:24:56.000 How dare you bring it up?

02:24:58.000 Why?

02:24:58.000 What's wrong with it?

02:24:58.000 Nothing.

02:24:59.000 It's fine.

02:25:00.000 I didn't wake up that hard.

02:25:02.000 I think that if you go...

02:25:04.000 I didn't have a colonoscopy, no.

02:25:05.000 I had an exam where they go in there with their fingers.

02:25:08.000 I didn't go in there with a...

02:25:09.000 They didn't put the scope in there?

02:25:10.000 No.

02:25:10.000 He woke up during his because he liked it.

02:25:12.000 I woke up.

02:25:13.000 I swear to God.

02:25:14.000 I wasn't even hard.

02:25:16.000 I'm not even fucking around.

02:25:17.000 I woke up in the middle of it because I just knew something was in my ass.

02:25:22.000 I woke up.

02:25:23.000 Yeah.

02:25:23.000 I woke up.

02:25:25.000 I went, Mateo?

02:25:28.000 But they can screen you with this, I forget what it's called.

02:25:32.000 They do that at Ways to Well, too.

02:25:34.000 They send it off to a lab.

02:25:35.000 They take your blood and they screen you for like a hundred kinds of cancer.

02:25:39.000 Right.

02:25:39.000 That's the way to go.

02:25:40.000 They got the full body skins now too.

02:25:43.000 They're trying to attach, there was some paper that I was reading that was trying to attach cooking oils with cancer.

02:25:48.000 Specific kinds of cooking oils in colon cancer.

02:25:52.000 Specific types of seed oils that things are cooked in and the prevalence of that and the human diet and how it's contributing to cancer.

02:25:59.000 Yeah.

02:26:00.000 Well, calling cancer is on the rise.

02:26:01.000 Why is this stuff not available in New York?

02:26:03.000 Why can you only do this kind of stuff in Texas?

02:26:05.000 You could do it in New York.

02:26:06.000 I guarantee you.

02:26:06.000 You just don't know the right people.

02:26:08.000 You probably can't do stem cells to the extent.

02:26:11.000 There's not a lot of these clinics because of a lot of FDA regulations.

02:26:16.000 Utah's a really good state for it.

02:26:17.000 They have much looser regulations.

02:26:19.000 But a lot of people wind up going to Mexico.

02:26:22.000 There's a place in Mexico that's called the CPI, Cellular Performance Institute.

02:26:25.000 A lot of UFC fighters go there because They have an arrangement with the UFC. You could do wild shit down in Mexico.

02:26:31.000 That's what Aaron Rodgers did, right?

02:26:32.000 With his Achilles.

02:26:33.000 He went down there and got the stem cells.

02:26:34.000 He's good to go.

02:26:35.000 Yep.

02:26:36.000 He actually got treated here.

02:26:37.000 He got treated at Wastewell.

02:26:38.000 Right.

02:26:39.000 Aaron Rodgers did.

02:26:40.000 Oh, wow.

02:26:40.000 Yeah.

02:26:41.000 So I should just go.

02:26:42.000 Yeah, you definitely should.

02:26:43.000 If I had known that you had that issue, I would have gotten you in early this morning.

02:26:46.000 Oh, thank you.

02:26:47.000 Fuck.

02:26:47.000 I'll come back.

02:26:48.000 Yeah.

02:26:49.000 Ron White actually just went in.

02:26:50.000 He hurt himself doing yoga.

02:26:53.000 And he fucked up his ankle.

02:26:55.000 They just treated him.

02:26:56.000 And now he's good.

02:26:57.000 Well, he just got it yesterday.

02:26:58.000 It's going to take a while before it's better.

02:26:59.000 Right.

02:27:00.000 But it will get you better.

02:27:01.000 A lot quicker than not having it.

02:27:03.000 That's for damn sure.

02:27:04.000 I know a lot of people that have had pretty serious issues cleared up.

02:27:09.000 Like torn Achilles.

02:27:10.000 Yeah, torn ligaments.

02:27:11.000 As long as it's not fully torn.

02:27:13.000 No.

02:27:14.000 Then you definitely need surgery.

02:27:15.000 You know, Achilles is a bad one, because it's like, God, there's so much torque on that when you're moving, and then you've got to screw it back down to your bone, and then it's got to heal, and make sure you strengthen it enough before you start using it, so you have to be real diligent about your rehab.

02:27:29.000 Like, look how long it took Aaron Rodgers, and he has state-of-the-art access to Ways to well.

02:27:34.000 And he was way ahead of the curve.

02:27:36.000 Way ahead of what it takes most people to do.

02:27:39.000 But even then, he couldn't really play play that year.

02:27:42.000 He had to wait until it was, you know, like the next season.

02:27:45.000 Those used to be like career ending.

02:27:47.000 Yep.

02:27:47.000 And now he's good.

02:27:48.000 Now they're just...

02:27:51.000 I've been doing calf exercises and strengthening all around, and it's just like a year and a half.

02:27:56.000 I'm like, dude, the pain is still there if I explode too much.

02:28:01.000 What am I going to do?

02:28:02.000 I've got horrific feet, Joe.

02:28:04.000 My feet are horrific.

02:28:05.000 My toes cross over.

02:28:06.000 I have no arches.

02:28:07.000 I have feet that look like they should be shoved into high heels.

02:28:10.000 Have you ever worked out with barefoot shoes?

02:28:13.000 You know those like minimalist?

02:28:14.000 They have to custom make them for his feet.

02:28:16.000 You know when you put your toe into each individual hole?

02:28:19.000 No, no, I don't mean that.

02:28:20.000 You can get those too.

02:28:22.000 Those are like the barefoot shoes.

02:28:24.000 Those help?

02:28:25.000 Yeah, those are okay.

02:28:27.000 Those are good.

02:28:27.000 The toe shoes, I used to have those.

02:28:30.000 But the ones I really like are they have a wide toe box so your feet spread out and there's very minimal amount of sole just to kind of protect you from sharp things you stand on.

02:28:39.000 But it allows your toes to move as individual units.

02:28:44.000 So a regular shoe acts as like a cast.

02:28:47.000 Like if you have like a thick soled boot and like a hard surface your foot sits on, it's like a cast.

02:28:52.000 So your toes aren't really working.

02:28:54.000 Your legs are picking it up, but your foot is basically atrophying inside that.

02:28:58.000 And then if you work out barefoot, and especially if you work out and you do something explosive, like jumping and stuff with barefoot, then you're using your feet the way they're supposed to be used.

02:29:09.000 Got it.

02:29:09.000 All the muscles strengthen.

02:29:10.000 Got it.

02:29:10.000 A lot of people have very, very weak feet.

02:29:13.000 Yeah, I can't even move my toes individually.

02:29:15.000 Like, if you, like Chris, move your toe, I'll go like this.

02:29:16.000 You can't do this?

02:29:17.000 No, I can't do it.

02:29:18.000 Wow.

02:29:19.000 That's crazy.

02:29:20.000 I mean, yeah, it's like, you know, it's horrible.

02:29:22.000 You should probably take care of that before it gets bad.

02:29:24.000 See?

02:29:24.000 Yeah, it's the only thing.

02:29:25.000 Go ahead, ask me to move my toe.

02:29:27.000 Say, move my toe. 0.72

02:29:28.000 Say, Chris, move your toe.

02:29:29.000 Somebody say it.

02:29:29.000 Move your toe.

02:29:30.000 You have basketball feet like I do.

02:29:31.000 That's all I could do, you see?

02:29:33.000 LeBron's feet are like that, too.

02:29:34.000 Did you play a lot of basketball?

02:29:35.000 I did, yeah.

02:29:36.000 Maybe that's it.

02:29:36.000 Maybe it's all that smushing in the shoe.

02:29:39.000 It could be.

02:29:40.000 Is that what it is, Jamie?

02:29:41.000 Yeah, definitely.

02:29:42.000 I had to wear extra pairs of socks up until I was 18. Yeah, put that fucking hoof back in the sheath.

02:29:47.000 But then you see on the ankle here, I got a little bony.

02:29:50.000 That's where it's fucked up.

02:29:51.000 But I do have good hamstring flexibility, not bad.

02:29:53.000 That's not bad.

02:29:54.000 Congratulations on that.

02:29:55.000 Thank you, sir.

02:30:00.000 LeBron's free to evil-looking.

02:30:02.000 Yeah.

02:30:02.000 He hasn't been playing, right?

02:30:03.000 Did he come back to the NBA yet?

02:30:04.000 He just missed two games.

02:30:05.000 Oh.

02:30:06.000 Is he coming back?

02:30:07.000 What happened?

02:30:08.000 Was he hurt?

02:30:09.000 Whatever.

02:30:10.000 Who knows?

02:30:11.000 He needed time to get his body right.

02:30:12.000 Oh, that's right.

02:30:13.000 Yeah, time out.

02:30:14.000 Who knows?

02:30:16.000 Anybody who takes out of anything now, people are like, Diddy!

02:30:21.000 It's crazy, dude.

02:30:22.000 Imagine him regretting saying, there's his feet.

02:30:26.000 Damn, dude.

02:30:27.000 Just smashed up.

02:30:29.000 Pinky toes.

02:30:30.000 A lot of kickboxers have feet like that, too.

02:30:33.000 Feet all fucked up.

02:30:35.000 Brutal!

02:30:35.000 Imagine how many...

02:30:37.000 I mean, think about kickboxers, how many elbows they've kicked.

02:30:39.000 Like, Jon Jones can't even fight unless he has his big toe on his left foot taped to his next toe.

02:30:45.000 He has to have it taped up because he tore his toe completely upside down when he was beating up Chael Sonnen.

02:30:51.000 And he didn't realize it until I was interviewing him after the fight.

02:30:54.000 And then he looks down and sees his toe.

02:30:55.000 He's like...

02:30:56.000 He freaks out and he has to sit down.

02:30:58.000 The adrenaline, he didn't even feel it.

02:30:59.000 Didn't even feel it.

02:31:00.000 His toe was upside down.

02:31:01.000 The bottom of his toe was facing up.

02:31:03.000 It was horrible.

02:31:05.000 I would probably say one-on-one him, anyone in history, just because of how skilled he is.

02:31:11.000 That's what his foot looked like.

02:31:12.000 Oh my god!

02:31:14.000 Yeah, bro.

02:31:15.000 Yo! 1.00

02:31:15.000 It was crazy. 1.00

02:31:16.000 So you noticed it first, though?

02:31:18.000 No, I think he did.

02:31:19.000 I think he noticed it.

02:31:19.000 I think he looked down.

02:31:21.000 Oh god!

02:31:21.000 Yeah.

02:31:22.000 He destroyed his toe.

02:31:23.000 So what happened?

02:31:23.000 It twisted all the way around?

02:31:25.000 That's from the force of beating the fuck out of Chael Sonnen.

02:31:28.000 That's what that's from.

02:31:29.000 Like, ground and pound, when he had him on the ground, just smashing down on him.

02:31:33.000 Jeez.

02:31:33.000 Somebody isolated the moment his toe curls over.

02:31:36.000 You could see it in, like, the replay.

02:31:38.000 The moment his toe, just the amount of torque he was putting on to try to kill Chael Sonnen.

02:31:42.000 Is he doing proria or aspinol?

02:31:46.000 Aspinol.

02:31:47.000 Yeah.

02:31:47.000 I think it's going to be aspinol.

02:31:48.000 I think they're trying to come to some sort of an agreement.

02:31:51.000 The rumor is that he wants $30 million, and the UFC's gonna pay it.

02:31:57.000 Hopefully.

02:31:57.000 I hope they pay it.

02:31:58.000 I agree with him.

02:31:59.000 Him and Pereira would be the fight everyone wants to see.

02:32:05.000 Perhaps.

02:32:06.000 Because he's been so dominant that kid.

02:32:07.000 Yeah, perhaps.

02:32:08.000 Perhaps.

02:32:08.000 I mean, if it's going to happen, they're both 37. It should probably happen soon.

02:32:12.000 But John is, you know, the heavyweight champion of the world, and Pereira has challengers in the light heavyweight division, especially Ankoliyev.

02:32:19.000 He's supposed to be fighting Ankoliyev.

02:32:21.000 Ankoliyev is fucking very dangerous. 0.54

02:32:24.000 And he's, I think he's the number one contender.

02:32:26.000 And he's been on a winning streak for a long-ass time.

02:32:29.000 He's only got one draw, and that was to Jan Blachowicz, who was the former champion.

02:32:34.000 So he's like at the top of the heap, and he's been waiting for a title shot for a long time.

02:32:38.000 But he's been talking a lot of shit, and Alex doesn't like that he talks shit.

02:32:42.000 So he's like, fuck him, make him wait.

02:32:44.000 And so I think Alex just said that he's gonna fight in March, and that he's not gonna fight Ankoliyev.

02:32:50.000 Because if he's fighting in March, when is Ramadan?

02:32:54.000 You're asking the wrong guy.

02:32:55.000 I thought you'd be the guy.

02:32:56.000 I thought you'd be the guy.

02:32:58.000 I know, but I thought you would know.

02:32:59.000 I think it's in the...

02:33:00.000 February 28th.

02:33:02.000 Okay, so he wouldn't be able to fight.

02:33:05.000 Ankhlaev wouldn't be able to fight in March because if it's like March 3rd and he's got to go through the entire month of Ramadan preparing for a world title fight, February 28th and it ends Saturday, March 29th.

02:33:16.000 See, that's exactly during the time period where he's going to fight.

02:33:21.000 And with Ramadan, for the whole month you can only drink water?

02:33:24.000 No, no, no.

02:33:25.000 You definitely can drink water and eat food, but you can only do it after sundown.

02:33:30.000 So, Bilal Muhammad, who's the UFC welterweight champion, he observes Ramadan and he was training and fighting.

02:33:39.000 He'd have to take a fight during Ramadan, so what he would do is he would get up at like 4.30 in the morning before it was dark out, before it was light out rather, and he'd have a big meal.

02:33:47.000 And then he would go to the gym and then he would have no water at the gym, nothing.

02:33:53.000 And then at the end of the day, and also he also didn't sleep during the day.

02:33:57.000 Like a lot of them, like their hack of that is they just sleep during the day and train and eat at night.

02:34:03.000 But he said that if you do that, then you miss out on the religious suffering, which he thinks is very important for Ramadan.

02:34:08.000 So he would do it the way you're supposed to do it where he worked out with no water.

02:34:12.000 Trained.

02:34:13.000 Oh my god.

02:34:13.000 And then he would finally get to the nighttime session.

02:34:16.000 He'd be able to eat and then have a nighttime training session like a little later than normal.

02:34:21.000 And so that's how he would do his day.

02:34:23.000 Wow.

02:34:23.000 That's why these dudes are dominating.

02:34:25.000 They're just tougher.

02:34:26.000 Discipline.

02:34:26.000 He started working with the Dagestani guys, right?

02:34:28.000 And then he just turned into a beast.

02:34:30.000 Well, those guys are hard fucking core.

02:34:33.000 They want no distractions, no women, no bullshit.

02:34:37.000 Get off your phone.

02:34:38.000 Let's go to work.

02:34:39.000 They're probably not jerking off, if we're being honest.

02:34:41.000 Probably.

02:34:41.000 They keep fuel, they keep it loaded up.

02:34:43.000 Keep a loaded glue gun.

02:34:44.000 Mm-hmm.

02:34:45.000 Right?

02:34:46.000 That's something about having a loaded glue gun, right?

02:34:48.000 When you're going into the ring, you want to be glued up, full of glue.

02:34:51.000 Some people believe that.

02:34:52.000 Yeah, some people believe that you're not supposed to ejaculate within a couple weeks of a big fight.

02:34:57.000 Didn't you not masturbate out of respect at 9-11?

02:34:59.000 That is true.

02:35:00.000 What was it?

02:35:00.000 Well, I wanted to go until we found Bin Laden, the perpetrator, but obviously that was too long, but I did go until October 1st.

02:35:07.000 From 9-11 to October 1, I said, as of my respect back to this country and patriotism, I'm not going to glue at all until we get out of this month of September.

02:35:15.000 Didn't Louis have a joke about he waited until the second tower fell?

02:35:19.000 Probably.

02:35:20.000 Like he jerked off.

02:35:22.000 It's funny.

02:35:22.000 I think it was a joke.

02:35:24.000 He didn't make it until the second power fell.

02:35:26.000 Yeah.

02:35:28.000 Dude, I remember there was like a vigil like on September 18th or whatever, like a week later in like my neighborhood and I was playing basketball.

02:35:35.000 I was a basketball player and I was playing in the park and I remember when I left, everyone was just standing outside their house with like American flags and candles and I wouldn't dribble my basketball because I was like, I think like a sound or any type of dribble of a ball.

02:35:47.000 Disrespectful.

02:35:48.000 Disrespectful.

02:35:49.000 And then a guy gave me a flag as I was walking, as if to say, take one of these as you're walking home, and I just walked with that flag.

02:35:56.000 I love our fucking country big, Joe.

02:35:58.000 Okay.

02:35:59.000 Jesus.

02:36:00.000 Yeah.

02:36:00.000 I just love it, and I hate when people talk shit about it.

02:36:03.000 Yeah.

02:36:03.000 Well, get ready.

02:36:05.000 Yeah.

02:36:05.000 It's coming.

02:36:06.000 We got some drones.

02:36:07.000 Listen to Joy Reid.

02:36:08.000 Yeah.

02:36:09.000 We should try to swap those things out of the air.

02:36:11.000 What do you think they are, if you had a guess?

02:36:13.000 I think they are...

02:36:14.000 I was joking about the AI thing.

02:36:16.000 I think they're Chinese.

02:36:19.000 I don't want to say this on such a big podcast.

02:36:21.000 I'm available to the CCP for whatever they need me to do.

02:36:25.000 Disinformation will do it.

02:36:26.000 I think that they are sniffing the radiation.

02:36:28.000 I think that that's the most plausible.

02:36:30.000 I don't know if they know about it, if not, but I think they're probably looking for radiation.

02:36:33.000 I don't know if that nukes necessarily going off, but I think that's probably what it is.

02:36:37.000 If I had to just guess.

02:36:38.000 If I really had to guess.

02:36:41.000 I think they're being launched from submarines underwater.

02:36:43.000 Yes.

02:36:44.000 Well that's what's crazy is like if that's the case, how many submarines and how big are these submarines, because these things are the size of an SUV, and some of them were coming from some like untrackable distance offshore, like 50 plus miles offshore, and they're the size of an SUV and they could stay in the air for five hours.

02:37:02.000 So what's the power source?

02:37:04.000 And then the other problem is they don't exhibit a heat signature like a regular drone does.

02:37:09.000 So do they have some sort of cooling?

02:37:11.000 Is that why they can't track them?

02:37:12.000 Yeah, they're having a hard time tracking them because of that.

02:37:13.000 They're having a hard time tracking them with infrared.

02:37:16.000 They don't know why they can stay in the sky for five hours at a time.

02:37:19.000 Ryan Graves, who's a fighter pilot, was on the other day.

02:37:22.000 He was explaining to us there's certain aspects to some of these drones that are above state-of-the-art.

02:37:28.000 They're doing things that we can't do.

02:37:30.000 The big one is the flying for that many hours.

02:37:33.000 That's crazy.

02:37:35.000 The heat signature part, that's crazy.

02:37:37.000 All the jammers and all different things they try to do to find the signal that's on, none of that works.

02:37:42.000 What does he think it is then?

02:37:42.000 Why don't they just knock one out of the air?

02:37:45.000 That's what I don't understand.

02:37:46.000 That's a good question.

02:37:46.000 That's what makes me skeptical to think that...

02:37:48.000 Does he think it's government?

02:37:50.000 I sent you something earlier today, Jamie, that I knew this subject was going to come up.

02:37:55.000 About it.

02:37:56.000 I don't know.

02:37:57.000 There's also some stuff, like, is it real?

02:37:59.000 I don't know if it's real.

02:38:00.000 I don't know what we're looking at, but there's some stuff with, like, these orbs that they're filming.

02:38:03.000 Oh, yeah.

02:38:04.000 And they've zoomed in on them.

02:38:05.000 And you look at the zoomed-in version of it, you're like, what the fuck is that?

02:38:08.000 Like, what is that goddamn thing?

02:38:10.000 Yeah.

02:38:10.000 We just don't know if it's real or not.

02:38:12.000 FAA bans drones in parts of New Jersey, threatens deadly force for imminent security threat.

02:38:18.000 These areas have all now been deemed national defense airspace.

02:38:23.000 The National Aviation Administration issued bans on flying drones in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several in our area due to security reasons.

02:38:33.000 These areas are all now considered national defense airspace.

02:38:37.000 Here's a map of those sites.

02:38:38.000 The city of Camden, Gloucester City, Winslow Township, Evesham, Hancocks Bridge and Lower Alloways Township in Salem County, West Hampton, Burlington and Hamilton.

02:38:49.000 Unmanned aircraft are not allowed in those areas through January 17th unless approved by the federal government.

02:38:55.000 The FAA says pilots who violate the airspace, meaning pilots on the ground as well, may be detained and interviewed by law enforcement.

02:39:03.000 The agency warns that the U.S. government may use deadly force against drones it deems an imminent threat.

02:39:10.000 These restrictions come just days after the FBI released a joint government statement saying most of the reported drone sightings were just airplanes, manned drones, and stars in the sky.

02:39:20.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:39:22.000 Listen, Donald Trump is not giving press conferences about airplanes and stars in the sky.

02:39:27.000 Right.

02:39:28.000 Do you don't think that he knows something more than that?

02:39:30.000 I was going to ask, do you think he knows?

02:39:32.000 He's not staying at his golf course.

02:39:33.000 He wouldn't go to his golf course because they were hovering over the golf course.

02:39:36.000 There's a real problem.

02:39:37.000 This gaslighting is not helping anybody.

02:39:40.000 Do you think it just goes out of the news one day or we will get an answer as the public?

02:39:44.000 I don't know.

02:39:45.000 I would never have guessed that it would be this big of a deal for so long.

02:39:49.000 How long has it been going on?

02:39:50.000 Since early November or mid-November, I think.

02:39:52.000 Yeah, around Thanksgiving.

02:39:54.000 And it's been the same...

02:39:55.000 Isn't it been like the same type of year, same time of year, like for a couple of years that this has been happening?

02:39:59.000 But not like this.

02:40:00.000 It's never gone to national news.

02:40:02.000 No, not this many.

02:40:02.000 But they were going over military bases.

02:40:04.000 And now they're just going over New Jersey.

02:40:06.000 Jamie, pull the video up of the one that I got on my Instagram.

02:40:09.000 So I took this one from...

02:40:11.000 I forget what the...

02:40:12.000 Instagram pages, but it's up on the page to give them a shout out.

02:40:15.000 I don't know what this is.

02:40:16.000 I don't know if this is fake.

02:40:17.000 This is the one we were looking at earlier.

02:40:19.000 I showed it to these guys in the green room last night.

02:40:21.000 We were all freaking out.

02:40:22.000 Like, okay, what is that?

02:40:24.000 The way the goddamn thing moves.

02:40:28.000 That's my favorite meme of you.

02:40:33.000 So click on it so we can hear it.

02:40:37.000 That meme gets used for so many different things.

02:40:41.000 Listen to these guys talking when they're talking.

02:40:42.000 There's no clouds!

02:40:44.000 Quiet!

02:40:45.000 So you see this thing...

02:40:46.000 Look at it on the camera.

02:40:47.000 It's like a dome.

02:40:48.000 So what you're concentrating on is the one on the lower right.

02:40:51.000 What the fuck?

02:40:52.000 Like literally, dude, that's weird in the sky right there.

02:40:57.000 So it's moving.

02:40:58.000 Shut up, shut up! 1.00

02:41:00.000 No, that's not moving quick enough.

02:41:02.000 There's no tail.

02:41:03.000 That's a UFO. Look, something's coming off!

02:41:08.000 What the fuck?

02:41:11.000 So when it gets above, this is where it gets weird.

02:41:14.000 Because it's slowly rising.

02:41:17.000 It gets above that other thing, which might be the moon.

02:41:19.000 I'm not sure what that other thing is.

02:41:21.000 I think it's the moon.

02:41:22.000 So that other thing, it gets above it, and then it starts taking off.

02:41:28.000 And when it starts taking off, it does it with no sound at a fucking insane rate of speed.

02:41:35.000 Like, look at that.

02:41:36.000 Oh my God.

02:41:43.000 Those guys are reacting like they're watching it.

02:41:48.000 I don't know if that's real.

02:41:50.000 It could be fake.

02:41:50.000 It could be all AI generated.

02:41:52.000 It's ambiguous and blurry enough, though, that I'm willing to entertain it.

02:41:56.000 If that's really what they saw, that's a bunch of different people have seen things like that over time.

02:42:02.000 And this is like the Tic Tac story.

02:42:04.000 This is the one that Ryan Graves showed us that this lady photographed over Florida.

02:42:09.000 That these things, and they've seen it on, this is one that was, this was seen by multiple people from different planes, that this thing moved and then shot off into space.

02:42:19.000 And this lady got photos of it. 0.98

02:42:21.000 But whatever that thing's doing, it's doing something that we can't do.

02:42:25.000 That speed that that thing takes off, that's faster than any rocket we have.

02:42:29.000 That's faster than any fighter jet.

02:42:31.000 That thing just shoots off into space at some impossible speed.

02:42:37.000 So it's either us, the drones are either...

02:42:39.000 Why are they blinking if it's not us?

02:42:41.000 That one wasn't blinking.

02:42:42.000 No, but I mean the drones.

02:42:43.000 I'm saying the drones are blinking.

02:42:45.000 So I'm saying if the drones are ours, maybe there's been UFO activity and they're throwing these drones up to try to capture it with better...

02:42:55.000 Or, what better way to distract people from actual UFOs that you know are going to be all over the sky than to put a bunch of drones up there too?

02:43:03.000 That too.

02:43:04.000 Yeah.

02:43:05.000 If you have a bunch of shit that seems like stuff that you've seen, like a drone flying around, and then there's stuff that is impossible with it, that's a good way to cover up the impossible stuff.

02:43:17.000 Have a bunch of regular drones.

02:43:19.000 Yeah.

02:43:19.000 But at this point, why would they do that?

02:43:21.000 Everyone's already accepted the fact that UFOs are out there.

02:43:24.000 Not really.

02:43:24.000 If there was a big thing where all of a sudden the sky was filled with football field-sized fucking motherships, people would lose their shit.

02:43:33.000 But if you could slowly get people accustomed to it, the way people got accustomed to masks...

02:43:39.000 In the beginning, in 2019, if you saw someone with a mask on, you'd be like, what the fuck is going on?

02:43:44.000 By 2021, why doesn't this guy have a mask on?

02:43:47.000 Just in a couple of years, everybody was wearing a mask.

02:43:50.000 We get accustomed to stuff.

02:43:52.000 If you get accustomed to things being in the sky, and then all of a sudden there's nothing...

02:43:57.000 Like, you could float anything in the sky.

02:43:59.000 If you have weirder and weirder drones and then start showing spaceships, people would freak out way less.

02:44:05.000 Right.

02:44:06.000 I don't know, dude.

02:44:07.000 If someone tells me this is a drone, I'm chill.

02:44:10.000 And if someone shows me a football field-sized spacecraft, I'm gonna freak out.

02:44:14.000 True.

02:44:14.000 That's a big leap.

02:44:15.000 In a good way.

02:44:15.000 But what about one the size of a car?

02:44:18.000 That's definitely not ours.

02:44:19.000 So you think they're just doling them out by size?

02:44:22.000 Yeah.

02:44:22.000 If I was going to do that, if I was going to get people prepared for an imminent invasion, like if I knew that there was UFOs on the way, if like we're working at the James Webb Telescope and we get a photo of a mothership and it's heading towards us, it's going to be here in four months.

02:44:38.000 What would you do?

02:44:38.000 Well, if I knew that they were going to be sending drones and probes into our atmosphere, and maybe they've already done that, to obscure that, I would put a bunch of our drones up there and have them hover over cities so it doesn't freak people out because you know that that's coming.

02:44:53.000 I mean, being freaked out is probably the least of our problems when they come.

02:44:57.000 Well, collapse of civil society is really possible if aliens show up. 0.99

02:45:04.000 Like, if they just instantaneously showed up, things could completely collapse if we knew that our leaders are just nothing compared to these new things that are visiting us from some other place and doing things that are impossible with our technology.

02:45:18.000 We're helpless.

02:45:19.000 We're lost.

02:45:20.000 We're confused.

02:45:21.000 They could shut down nuclear power plants.

02:45:22.000 They can shut down the grid.

02:45:25.000 They can shut down any weapon systems that we have.

02:45:28.000 Instantaneously, power goes off.

02:45:30.000 If all those stories are true, The best way to keep people from absolutely freaking out is to slowly trickle it in on them and get them more and more accustomed to this, like as a psyop.

02:45:41.000 How committed are you to this theory?

02:45:43.000 Not very.

02:45:44.000 Not very.

02:45:44.000 I go all over the place.

02:45:46.000 I think, according to someone that I spoke to, And this is someone who has high-level clearance and someone who worked for the government in this capacity.

02:45:58.000 He said some of these are not.

02:46:00.000 They're not human.

02:46:02.000 They're not exhibiting whatever they are.

02:46:04.000 They're exhibiting technology that is far beyond what we're capable of.

02:46:09.000 And then there's other ones, like Ryan Graves said, that are beyond state-of-the-art, but you can kind of sort of get that they would be a drone.

02:46:16.000 But how is it in the air for five hours?

02:46:19.000 How does it not have a heat signature?

02:46:22.000 How does it know when other drones are coming near it, when they're flying jets near it, and they just shut the lights off and disappear?

02:46:28.000 These things are just shutting off.

02:46:30.000 Maybe they're alien drones.

02:46:33.000 It's possible.

02:46:34.000 Fuck.

02:46:34.000 Maybe they're just alien drones.

02:46:35.000 Also, if you were an alien and you wanted to get people accustomed to this without freaking out, wouldn't you start sending drones that are similar to what we have, but just many levels better?

02:46:45.000 But similar enough, so you go, oh, I know what that is.

02:46:48.000 Or they could just get on the TV and get like, hey dudes, we're chill.

02:46:52.000 If they could get here, they'd know how to speak our language, and they'd just go, hey dudes, we're chill.

02:46:57.000 They can morph.

02:46:58.000 We're coming here.

02:46:59.000 Or they'd just go, hey guys, it's over.

02:47:02.000 You guys have seen The Matrix?

02:47:03.000 We're about to use you for some sort of fuel.

02:47:06.000 Whatever they're going to do.

02:47:07.000 Or maybe they're not going to be mean to us at all.

02:47:09.000 That's possible too.

02:47:10.000 If they're that intelligent, they're not mean.

02:47:12.000 They're not mean.

02:47:13.000 You mean like us?

02:47:14.000 Yeah.

02:47:15.000 That's hilarious.

02:47:16.000 Or maybe the prison planet thing I said in the beginning of the show, this is how it happens.

02:47:19.000 Well, you ever heard Bob Lazar talk about one of the most disturbing things that he found?

02:47:23.000 Why?

02:47:24.000 No.

02:47:24.000 One of the most disturbing things when he was doing the back engineering program on this supposed crashed alien spaceship or recovered alien spaceship was that they had a thick binder that was about religion.

02:47:36.000 And the thing, we'll have him play it.

02:47:39.000 We'll have him play it, because it's one of those ones we've played a few times.

02:47:41.000 But the Bob Lazar story is the craziest.

02:47:45.000 Because if he was telling the truth, and it seems like he's definitely telling the truth about a lot, he definitely worked at Los Alamos Labs, he was on the employee roster, he has a detailed understanding of the building, he knew all the security people when they took him there, when George Knapp took him on a tour through there.

02:47:57.000 He definitely worked there, and he definitely was a propulsions expert.

02:48:02.000 And he says they hired him to go and try to figure out this fucking thing.

02:48:06.000 Here, listen to this.

02:48:07.000 The hardcore thing is that there is an extremely classified document dealing with religion, and it's about that second period.

02:48:15.000 But why would there be any classified material dealing with religion?

02:48:20.000 I want to go back to the religion thing.

02:48:22.000 I want you to say it.

02:48:25.000 It's just, it's so far out.

02:48:28.000 Alright, your objection has been noted.

02:48:30.000 What does it say?

02:48:33.000 That we're containers.

02:48:34.000 That's how supposedly the aliens look at us.

02:48:38.000 That we are nothing but containers.

02:48:40.000 Containers of?

02:48:41.000 Containers.

02:48:43.000 Maybe containers of souls.

02:48:44.000 You can come up with whatever theory you want, but we're containers.

02:48:47.000 And that's how we're mentioned in the documents.

02:48:51.000 That religion was specifically created So we have some rules and regulations for the sole purpose of not damaging the containers.

02:49:00.000 That's George Now, by the way.

02:49:02.000 Shout out to George Now.

02:49:03.000 I'm too freaked out.

02:49:04.000 But it's kind of what you were talking about.

02:49:07.000 The prison planet theory doesn't seem so crazy if the advanced alien race is eating our negative emotions.

02:49:12.000 Just don't be negative.

02:49:13.000 And you'll be safe, dude.

02:49:14.000 Just be happy.

02:49:15.000 That's what they've been trying to tell you.

02:49:16.000 Bar Marley, everybody's been trying to tell you this.

02:49:18.000 What is this, Jamie?

02:49:19.000 What are you showing me here?

02:49:20.000 I believe that video you posted is from April.

02:49:23.000 April 12, 2024, Mountain Standard Time in eastern Arizona off the Black River in the White Mountains, the Fort Apache Indian Reservation.

02:49:33.000 Oh, by the way, my friend Cam Haines, he hunts at one of the Apache reservations.

02:49:38.000 He says they see them there all the time.

02:49:40.000 Wow.

02:49:41.000 He said they see crazy shit in the sky all the time.

02:49:44.000 These guys are hunting out there in this enormous reservation, like unbelievable, pristine forest land.

02:49:51.000 He said they see crazy shit, and they just accept it, that it's true. 0.93

02:49:56.000 Right, I believe that.

02:49:57.000 Most of the guys working there have seen something.

02:50:00.000 Yeah, I mean, that makes sense to me.

02:50:02.000 That's also where Travis Walton, this guy, that was in Arizona too, wasn't it, Jamie?

02:50:06.000 This version of the video, you can almost make out the moon.

02:50:08.000 I don't know if this is better because it's been reposted less, but...

02:50:12.000 It does look better.

02:50:13.000 It definitely looks better.

02:50:15.000 So this is the same thing.

02:50:16.000 Are you freaked out by this?

02:50:17.000 100%.

02:50:18.000 Yeah.

02:50:18.000 Yeah, but not enough that it's gonna fuck up my day.

02:50:21.000 Yeah.

02:50:21.000 Right?

02:50:21.000 Because it freaks me out, but it's not freaking me out like I can't sleep.

02:50:25.000 Right.

02:50:25.000 Yeah.

02:50:25.000 It's freaking me out.

02:50:26.000 Like, Ukraine freaks me out where I can't sleep. 1.00

02:50:29.000 Yeah.

02:50:30.000 You know, like, that stuff freaks me out.

02:50:32.000 The looking for a nuke on the East Coast, that freaks me out where I'll fuck with my sleep.

02:50:36.000 Right.

02:50:36.000 If I think about that before I go to bed, The one thing that I genuinely...

02:50:40.000 Here it takes off.

02:50:41.000 Let's take a look at it while it's taking off.

02:50:43.000 Wow.

02:50:45.000 And this is the thing.

02:50:45.000 It's like, there's no sound.

02:50:48.000 Look how fast it's going.

02:50:50.000 Yeah.

02:50:51.000 Like, what can go that fast?

02:50:52.000 What the fuck can go that fast?

02:50:57.000 It's crazy.

02:50:58.000 That is insane.

02:50:59.000 That has to be...

02:51:00.000 I don't want to guess how many thousands of miles an hour that thing is going.

02:51:04.000 But if you are a person inside, you're jello.

02:51:07.000 Yeah.

02:51:08.000 If you're going that fast...

02:51:09.000 Paul Verzi's dad and mom saw it, and it was not only the dad, mom.

02:51:14.000 It was like...

02:51:15.000 An aunt.

02:51:16.000 They were all there.

02:51:17.000 And I asked his mom.

02:51:18.000 She's like a religious person.

02:51:19.000 And she said, yeah.

02:51:20.000 And they said it was low, had lights on it.

02:51:23.000 The father.

02:51:23.000 And the father is, you know, a Bronx Italian guy.

02:51:24.000 He's a funny guy, yeah.

02:51:25.000 And he said he doesn't believe in that stuff.

02:51:27.000 And it was low, like above the tree line.

02:51:29.000 He made it out.

02:51:30.000 It was a saucer.

02:51:31.000 And then he said it shot up and turned into a dot in the sky.

02:51:34.000 And this was in the 80s or something.

02:51:35.000 Did you guys ever hear the Betty and Barney Hill story?

02:51:38.000 No.

02:51:39.000 Betty and Barney Hill were a couple in, I think it was the 1950s?

02:51:44.000 Oh yes, I know the story.

02:51:44.000 They were the first abduction story.

02:51:46.000 And they did hypnotic regression and they both had the same story.

02:51:50.000 They saw something in the sky, they pulled over their car and then they woke up and they don't know what the fuck happened.

02:51:55.000 But they were haunted by this and they have hypnotic regression and they tell this crazy story about being...

02:52:00.000 Taking aboard this craft.

02:52:02.000 It's very similar to Travis Walton story.

02:52:03.000 It's very similar to a bunch of stories of abduction.

02:52:06.000 And what is this?

02:52:08.000 Like they get tested on?

02:52:09.000 Or they just don't remember anything?

02:52:10.000 You know, it's hard to say when you're dealing with hypnotic...

02:52:14.000 Because the thing about these when you're recalling things through hypnosis is like people are very susceptible to someone imparting a memory into them.

02:52:24.000 So you'd have to know, like, what was the process like in which you interviewed these people?

02:52:29.000 But John Mack, who was a psychologist from Harvard, wrote a book called Abduction that I read in the 1990s that detailed all the different people that he worked on, that he was, you know, having these hypnotic regression sessions with these people.

02:52:45.000 And they were all telling these similar stories about being abducted.

02:52:48.000 And that he believed that there was a few people on Earth where they would revisit.

02:52:54.000 They would find, just like we do with animals, where we put collars on them, right?

02:52:58.000 They catch, like, a mountain lion.

02:53:01.000 They'll put a collar on that mountain lion so they can understand where the mountain lion's going, where his terrain is.

02:53:06.000 They do it with wolves when they relocate them.

02:53:08.000 They put collars on them so they know where they are all the time.

02:53:12.000 And it makes sense that they would probably want to understand us, so they would pick certain ones.

02:53:19.000 And if they had a way to silence your memories and, you know, completely put you in some sort of a state where they could manipulate you and take you to some place and do examinations on you and then put you back with no memory of it other than these, like, weird nightmares.

02:53:35.000 That makes sense.

02:53:35.000 Well, it shows that they're compassionate if they put you back.

02:53:38.000 I guess, or that this is how they study you.

02:53:42.000 They want to know.

02:53:43.000 I mean, there's no stories of them stealing people, right?

02:53:45.000 They always bring you back.

02:53:47.000 But if that's real, what's the purpose of it?

02:53:51.000 What are they doing?

02:53:51.000 I would imagine they're studying us the same.

02:53:56.000 And the chimps had no idea we studied them.

02:53:58.000 Like, we would do that.

02:53:59.000 Instead, we'd dart them.

02:54:00.000 We'd dart them.

02:54:00.000 And then they'd wake up, like, what the fuck?

02:54:03.000 That's how we do it.

02:54:04.000 And they would probably do it in a real similar way, just more sophisticated.

02:54:07.000 How about that other adduction story about those guys?

02:54:10.000 They were like those rural guys in the 70s or something?

02:54:13.000 Travis Walton.

02:54:14.000 That's the Arizona story, the logger.

02:54:16.000 Those guys, I believe them.

02:54:18.000 That story is crazy because the other guys in the truck, one of the guys hated him.

02:54:21.000 He got in a fist fight with that guy the day of the abduction.

02:54:24.000 He still told the same story that everybody told.

02:54:27.000 He walked up to this craft.

02:54:28.000 They saw it flying through the air.

02:54:29.000 Wasn't that in Arizona, too?

02:54:31.000 Was it Travis Walton case in Arizona?

02:54:34.000 I believe it was.

02:54:35.000 Arizona's a hot spot for it.

02:54:37.000 I mean, that's the Phoenix Lights.

02:54:38.000 Phoenix Lights was crazy.

02:54:40.000 Crazy.

02:54:41.000 Crazy.

02:54:41.000 And a lot of people saw that one.

02:54:43.000 Thousands of people saw it, including the fucking governor.

02:54:45.000 Yeah.

02:54:46.000 So then why is this one catching on in the news?

02:54:49.000 Because it's more.

02:54:50.000 This is more prevalent, and it's lasting for days and days and days.

02:54:53.000 Got it.

02:54:54.000 And I don't know.

02:54:55.000 I don't know what's going on.

02:54:56.000 Do you think they just want to be there for the inauguration?

02:54:59.000 Ah!

02:55:00.000 Probably.

02:55:00.000 Well, they're really early.

02:55:01.000 They're like fucking tailgating.

02:55:03.000 Yeah, they're tailgating.

02:55:04.000 We're going to be tailgating the inauguration.

02:55:05.000 We're going to be there.

02:55:06.000 We're going to be there.

02:55:07.000 We're going to be close.

02:55:08.000 July...

02:55:08.000 I'm sorry.

02:55:09.000 January 18th, we're doing a show in Washington, D.C. at the Lincoln Theater, our Historiania's live show, and we're like...

02:55:16.000 Bring a Geiger counter.

02:55:17.000 Well, we said, we were like, why?

02:55:19.000 Two days before the inauguration, we were like, what the fuck are we doing?

02:55:22.000 Yeah, we're doing a live, the first live history hyena show.

02:55:24.000 January 18th.

02:55:25.000 January 18th, Washington, D.C. In D.C., it'll be fine.

02:55:27.000 It's a good time to do it.

02:55:27.000 I mean, but we were like, fuck it.

02:55:29.000 Oh, who knows?

02:55:30.000 Better than January 21st.

02:55:31.000 That one, I wouldn't count on being there.

02:55:33.000 We're doing it at 5 o'clock in the afternoon.

02:55:34.000 I like doing earlier shows now.

02:55:36.000 You ever do that?

02:55:36.000 You ever do like a 5 p.m.?

02:55:38.000 No.

02:55:38.000 We think that's where the world's going.

02:55:41.000 We don't think people want to be out until midnight, 1 a.m.

02:55:43.000 anymore.

02:55:44.000 What do you think?

02:55:44.000 You think that's stupid?

02:55:45.000 You think earlier shows work?

02:55:47.000 Would you experiment with them?

02:55:49.000 Yeah, I mean, sure.

02:55:50.000 I mean, Bert Kreischer's always done afternoon shows, like Take the Day Off Work show.

02:55:54.000 He's done a bunch of those.

02:55:55.000 Yeah, Bert's been doing those for years.

02:55:56.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

02:55:58.000 Yeah, I mean, Doug Stanhope does those day drinking shows.

02:56:02.000 He actually filmed one at the Mothership.

02:56:04.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

02:56:04.000 Did some day drinking shows.

02:56:06.000 Yeah, I mean, why not?

02:56:07.000 I mean, the club is there all day long.

02:56:08.000 Why not have shows during the day if you want to?

02:56:10.000 If you want, if you can sell them.

02:56:11.000 Especially if it's dark out.

02:56:13.000 The club's dark as shit.

02:56:14.000 It's dark when it's noon, you know?

02:56:17.000 It's like you could totally have the same experience at noon that you could at night, but it seems like at nighttime people are off work, you get a couple of cocktails, get a little loose, sit in the dark, have a good time.

02:56:29.000 But on a Saturday, sometimes I feel like people just sit around all day and wait for the show.

02:56:33.000 If you can put it at 5 o'clock, why not?

02:56:34.000 Look, that's why they like to go to football games, right?

02:56:36.000 Right.

02:56:37.000 During the afternoon?

02:56:38.000 Yeah.

02:56:38.000 I mean, you certainly could.

02:56:39.000 You certainly could have day shows.

02:56:41.000 Yeah.

02:56:41.000 Especially if you have a big name, you know, someone, they're willing to do something.

02:56:45.000 Yeah, big, yeah.

02:56:46.000 Like, most people like to go out at night, you know, like to go to dinner, get a couple drinks, go to a show.

02:56:50.000 That's a nighttime thing.

02:56:51.000 Yeah.

02:56:51.000 But that's just, they're just accustomed to it, especially if it's Saturday or Sunday.

02:56:55.000 Yeah.

02:56:55.000 You totally could get away with it.

02:56:56.000 I'm just a morning baby.

02:56:57.000 I like to wake up early, and then I like to- What time do you get up?

02:57:00.000 I'm a 6 a.m.

02:57:01.000 little baby boy that wakes up- How long before you look at your phone?

02:57:04.000 I used to look at it right away, but now I give myself 15 minutes.

02:57:07.000 15 solid minutes?

02:57:08.000 I give 15 minutes and I get my feet on the floor.

02:57:10.000 What if you have to piss?

02:57:13.000 You don't piss without your phone.

02:57:15.000 Stop lying.

02:57:16.000 Let me think about that.

02:57:17.000 If you get up in the middle of the night to piss, do you grab your phone?

02:57:18.000 That I don't do, because I'm in a slumber, so it's kind of like I'm in a slumber state of piss.

02:57:24.000 But you're right, when I do get up, when I do get...

02:57:26.000 Actually, I never really have to piss in the morning when I wake up, because I do piss in the middle of the night.

02:57:30.000 But that is a good point.

02:57:31.000 I typically, if I have to piss, I do take my phone.

02:57:33.000 That's a good point.

02:57:34.000 But mostly, if I don't have to piss, I will go 15 minutes, I try to do it.

02:57:38.000 And I just try to breathe.

02:57:39.000 And get friendly with the present.

02:57:41.000 Get friendly with the present.

02:57:42.000 You gotta do it, baby.

02:57:43.000 Do you do any meditation or mindfulness stuff?

02:57:45.000 Sure, yeah.

02:57:46.000 It's so good.

02:57:46.000 Every day?

02:57:47.000 Yeah.

02:57:47.000 Well, I do a lot of different things that also act like that.

02:57:51.000 Like my time in the sauna, I think that's very meditative.

02:57:54.000 You know, especially when I'm just concentrating on breathing and getting through the last 10-15 minutes.

02:57:59.000 Cold plunge, I think that's a very meditative state too because you have to be in control of your emotions and your anxiety because you want to get the fuck out of there and you have to just stare at the clock.

02:58:10.000 You know, and make sure you do your time, but also other things that I do, yeah.

02:58:14.000 What do you stay?

02:58:15.000 How long in the cold plunge?

02:58:16.000 Three minutes.

02:58:17.000 Three minutes, not bad.

02:58:19.000 Yeah.

02:58:20.000 I can't even do a cold shower.

02:58:23.000 Dude, I can't believe we're doing maybe the last podcast on Earth after an alien invasion is coming.

02:58:27.000 I don't think aliens are going to stop podcasting.

02:58:29.000 I think they like podcasts.

02:58:31.000 They like it, right?

02:58:31.000 They're going to love yours for sure.

02:58:33.000 You're an advocate for them.

02:58:34.000 Yes, I'm on their side.

02:58:36.000 Come visit me.

02:58:37.000 I'm shocked they haven't visited me yet.

02:58:39.000 I'm upset.

02:58:40.000 Maybe they'll come.

02:58:41.000 You wouldn't be freaked out, right?

02:58:42.000 I'd definitely be freaked out.

02:58:44.000 Yeah.

02:58:44.000 I mean, how do you not be freaked out when you're confronted with the thing that everybody's wondered forever?

02:58:49.000 Are we alone?

02:58:50.000 Yeah.

02:58:50.000 And if you know you're definitely not alone, no matter who you are and what you say, I don't care if you're the baddest motherfucker on the planet, you run into an alien, you're going to freak out.

02:58:58.000 But why is that not comforting?

02:59:00.000 Like, I'm a kid who doesn't like loneliness and it'd be nice to know that there's other things out there.

02:59:04.000 What if they're completely indifferent to us?

02:59:06.000 What if they've completely eliminated emotion and they're cold and calculated like a computer?

02:59:12.000 We have those here.

02:59:14.000 Yeah, but they're not telling you what you can and can't do with your life.

02:59:17.000 They're not shutting down your power grid.

02:59:19.000 They're not like coming over to rule over humanity.

02:59:22.000 That's the worry.

02:59:23.000 The worry is that they rule over us the way we rule over countries.

02:59:27.000 But maybe they do a better job.

02:59:29.000 Maybe.

02:59:29.000 Yeah.

02:59:30.000 I mean, what's the worst they could do, really?

02:59:31.000 Look at you.

02:59:32.000 Yeah.

02:59:33.000 What's the worst that could happen?

02:59:34.000 What does Chad GPT say about it in the natives?

02:59:35.000 Huh?

02:59:35.000 We asked Chad GPT the other day.

02:59:38.000 What do they say?

02:59:38.000 If the Tic Tac was a UFO. We kept, like, beating it down.

02:59:41.000 I ask it more and more questions.

02:59:43.000 It's exhibiting something.

02:59:44.000 What are the possibilities?

02:59:45.000 If it is extraterrestrial, where would it come from?

02:59:47.000 It gave us a list of star systems that are close by.

02:59:50.000 Wow!

02:59:51.000 Yeah, you keep pestering.

02:59:53.000 I kept going with it.

02:59:54.000 I asked it to make an artistic rendition of what I thought it would look like.

02:59:58.000 What the Tic Tac looked like?

02:59:59.000 Yo! 1.00

02:59:59.000 At first they made it huge, and I was like, that's a little too big, isn't it? 1.00

03:00:02.000 Yeah, maybe, but not big as those mothership ones.

03:00:05.000 I don't know what it is, but it's fun.

03:00:07.000 I like all this.

03:00:08.000 I like all this chaos.

03:00:10.000 Yeah.

03:00:10.000 I think it's fun.

03:00:11.000 I enjoy it when things get real sideways for some strange reason.

03:00:13.000 They were also probably been coming forever.

03:00:15.000 Just now everyone's got phones and now they're just capturing them.

03:00:18.000 I think it's in the Bible.

03:00:19.000 I think the Ezekiel story in the Bible is an alien visitation.

03:00:23.000 What is that they're saying?

03:00:24.000 They talk about these lights?

03:00:25.000 Talks about a wheel within a wheel.

03:00:27.000 The way Ezekiel describes this vision that he sees, like something that had multiple different animal heads on it and different...

03:00:35.000 He describes it as a wheel within a wheel.

03:00:38.000 The way he's describing, you would imagine if you saw something beyond your fucking wildest imagination, and then you tried years later to write this down, or not even write it down, right?

03:00:51.000 It was told as an oral tradition for a long time before it was ever written.

03:00:54.000 Who knows what the actual event was that he described, but there's a lot of ancient religious texts, including the Vimanas from the Bhagavad Gita, all these different stories of things flying in the air that exhibit extraordinary flight characteristics.

03:01:10.000 That move the way we describe UFOs.

03:01:13.000 So that's a good point then.

03:01:13.000 Just because we have the capability to film this and know about it now, doesn't mean that they're going to expose themselves because they've been doing this for thousands of years.

03:01:21.000 If you read Jacques Vallée's books on it, Jacques Vallée is the guy, he's a scientist that they...

03:01:29.000 He was the reason why they had that French guy in Close Encounters, the third count. 0.99

03:01:34.000 You ever see that?

03:01:34.000 Close Encounters?

03:01:35.000 Steven Spielberg?

03:01:35.000 Long time ago.

03:01:36.000 Great fucking movie.

03:01:37.000 But there was this French scientist they bring in to try to help people get through this.

03:01:42.000 It's based on Jacques Vallée.

03:01:44.000 He was a podcast guest.

03:01:46.000 Very cagey.

03:01:47.000 Didn't answer a lot of questions.

03:01:48.000 Okay.

03:01:48.000 Probed him a lot.

03:01:49.000 But his books are fascinating.

03:01:51.000 And one of the things about his books...

03:01:52.000 I've read the first one.

03:01:53.000 I'm into the second one right now.

03:01:55.000 In the first one, he goes into detail about...

03:01:58.000 Through the 1700s, 1800s, all these different sightings, all these different experiences that people documented in news stories, and they're all super similar, man.

03:02:09.000 Similar enough that different versions of it, you could kind of attribute it to different people lacking the words to adequately explain some super paranormal, bizarre experience.

03:02:23.000 But real similar.

03:02:24.000 I think they've probably always been here.

03:02:27.000 If they're real, if we are visited by something that's either interdimensional or from another planet, they've probably been doing this for a long fucking time, monitoring us the same way we monitor animals on this planet.

03:02:39.000 And they'll never, maybe never say who they really are.

03:02:42.000 Well, maybe they're getting ready to because we're about to unleash these fucking quantum computers and AI, and maybe that is the thing that they're here to make sure goes smoothly.

03:02:52.000 Right.

03:02:52.000 Because if you had to imagine one thing that would completely change the capability of this race of savage, barbarian, territorial apes with thermonuclear weapons, which is what we are, you would, like, right when they're about to achieve godlike powers, Like, let's, like, hover.

03:03:11.000 Wow.

03:03:12.000 That makes sense.

03:03:13.000 It really does make sense when you put it into that context, which is actually reality.

03:03:18.000 That we are about...

03:03:19.000 We are on the precipice of something that is so unimaginable.

03:03:23.000 Bigger than the split of the atom.

03:03:24.000 Yeah, I mean...

03:03:24.000 Bigger than anything.

03:03:25.000 Like, literally something...

03:03:27.000 You're blowing my mind right now.

03:03:28.000 Yeah, I mean, we really...

03:03:29.000 When you think so...

03:03:31.000 Your anxiety is going to go up.

03:03:32.000 Well no, my anxiety is about stupid stuff, which is weird.

03:03:37.000 This stuff just doesn't bother me, but I get bothered by stupid stuff.

03:03:41.000 What is wrong with this?

03:03:42.000 Because this stuff is not genuinely affecting you right now.

03:03:46.000 If it was, if it was inescapable, if it was hovering over this building right now, we wouldn't be able to have a podcast.

03:03:52.000 We'd all be outside.

03:03:53.000 We'd be going, what the fuck, man?

03:03:56.000 If there's some silent thing that's three miles long that's blocking out the sky and it's hovering, you know, 300 yards above us, we would all be freaking the fuck out.

03:04:07.000 Right.

03:04:07.000 So, my question is, like, Elon Musk probably has, like, what?

03:04:11.000 IQ of like 140 or something?

03:04:14.000 Probably, at least.

03:04:15.000 So, what is ChatGBT's IQ considered now? 0.52

03:04:19.000 Well, once ChatGBT, once they achieve, and they think they're going to be able to do this in 2025, when it achieves artificial general intelligence, I think what it will be is as smart as every human being that's on Earth combined.

03:04:35.000 See if that's right.

03:04:36.000 See if that's correct.

03:04:37.000 What does that mean, artificial general intelligence?

03:04:39.000 The thing is, whatever it is, it's baby steps.

03:04:41.000 So whatever that is, this insane leap from us to that, is baby steps in comparison to what it's going to be.

03:04:48.000 It's not going to stop there.

03:04:50.000 And if you have...

03:04:52.000 If you have sentient artificial intelligence and unlimited computing power connected to nuclear power plants like they're going to do, and then it develops a better version of itself and better versions of power and better versions of its programming and all the other things that go along with it and its capabilities, and if ChatGPT is trying to lie and copy itself, what is that thing going to do?

03:05:16.000 And they also don't know how it works, right?

03:05:19.000 Like, I watched that 60 Minutes interview with that sort of godfather of AI, or whatever they consider him, like the guy who first created the biggest component of it, and he says, we don't, the layers thing, and then he was like, they don't know how it works.

03:05:30.000 They don't know how it works.

03:05:32.000 Yeah, they don't.

03:05:33.000 That blows my mind.

03:05:34.000 It should.

03:05:35.000 Yeah.

03:05:35.000 It should, and that's why the aliens are hovering.

03:05:37.000 So is Elon concerned?

03:05:39.000 Is Elon really concerned about AI? I don't know.

03:05:42.000 He keeps it under his hat.

03:05:43.000 I think he's got contracts with NASA, and he's at the Defense Department, and he's running SpaceX.

03:05:49.000 I don't think he can talk wild about aliens.

03:05:52.000 There's a lot on the line.

03:05:53.000 That's what we were saying in the gym the other day.

03:05:55.000 Because he doesn't believe in them.

03:05:55.000 I saw him on your show then, like, I'm not sure of that thing.

03:05:57.000 He said, they're real, they're very subtle.

03:05:59.000 I don't know.

03:06:00.000 Yeah, because people were like, oh, how come he's not commenting on the drones?

03:06:03.000 He comments on everything.

03:06:04.000 It's true.

03:06:04.000 And so, like, what does that tell you?

03:06:06.000 It tells me something's going on.

03:06:08.000 Yeah.

03:06:08.000 Because I would be commenting on it.

03:06:10.000 If I had nothing to do with it, and I was a super genius who comments on everything, I would for sure comment on all these fucking drones.

03:06:16.000 Well, there's a lot of them.

03:06:18.000 My wife saw one.

03:06:19.000 She videoed it.

03:06:20.000 It was a drone.

03:06:20.000 There's a lot of them.

03:06:22.000 But it could have been a man-made, it could have been like somebody thrown in there.

03:06:24.000 Could have been a kid, because a lot of people are probably putting them up in the sky too.

03:06:28.000 100%.

03:06:28.000 They're all flying around Austin, I see them.

03:06:30.000 And they're normal drones.

03:06:31.000 I've seen them the other night.

03:06:33.000 Boys, let's wrap this up.

03:06:35.000 History Hyenas is back.

03:06:36.000 I'm very happy.

03:06:37.000 Thank you.

03:06:39.000 And we're demonetized on YouTube, so we're trying to get re-monetized.

03:06:43.000 What happened?

03:06:43.000 What'd you say?

03:06:44.000 Dude, who knows?

03:06:46.000 I don't know.

03:06:47.000 Why does this happen to me?

03:06:49.000 I remember the last time they did it to my channel and then you spoke about it and then they re-monetized.

03:06:56.000 They had suspended me last time.

03:06:58.000 We don't know because we weren't even active.

03:07:00.000 The problem is if you get a bunch of haters who flag your videos and complain about them, I think sometimes that can do it.

03:07:07.000 Yeah, it says harmful content.

03:07:08.000 We didn't even put it on an episode.

03:07:09.000 It's just cocksuckers who, like, just mass report you or they don't like you. 1.00

03:07:15.000 I mean, there's a lot of ways to weaponize that whole reporting system.

03:07:18.000 We're trying, but that's why.

03:07:19.000 And then, you know, you've got to realize, like, YouTube is managing...

03:07:22.000 Some fucking insane number of videos that are getting uploaded every minute.

03:07:27.000 And they probably have to have all these systems in place to handle this stuff, and I bet you can game that system.

03:07:32.000 And then there's also a bunch of people that work for them that are woke dipshits.

03:07:36.000 And I think they can flag things, and they get out of line sometimes.

03:07:39.000 We tried.

03:07:39.000 We tried to get it reinstated.

03:07:41.000 They said we have to, you know, February is our next chance.

03:07:44.000 YouTube, please.

03:07:45.000 Come on.

03:07:46.000 Please, it's just a history podcast for two funny guys.

03:07:50.000 Let it go.

03:07:50.000 But that's why, in effort, we are playing by the rules with YouTube, and we have really clean, cute content on YouTube.

03:07:56.000 But if you want to get fucking wild with us, go to patreon.com slash historyhyenas.

03:08:00.000 That's where we're going off, at Patreon.com.

03:08:03.000 It's true.

03:08:03.000 We are going off.

03:08:04.000 Gentlemen, I appreciate you very much.

03:08:06.000 You guys are awesome.

03:08:06.000 Thank you.

03:08:07.000 I'm so happy you're together again.

03:08:08.000 Beautiful.

03:08:09.000 Thanks, man.

03:08:09.000 Thanks, Joe.

The Joe Rogan Experience - December 31, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2249 - Yannis Pappas & Chris Distefano

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