Is sex allowed in space? Is it possible to have sex on the other side of the moon? Is sex allowed on Mars? Can you get pregnant on the space station? What's the best way to get pregnant in space, and how many kids can you have?
00:05:46.000But, you know, you want to be historically accurate here.
00:05:48.000And Genghis Khan, there's a lot of different perspectives, including opening up trade and including what was the protocol based on which he was doing the murdering.
00:06:00.000So it was very clear before the invasion, he always said, you can surrender and then we would not murder anybody.
00:06:15.000And the law is very, very sort of clear, and it's basically enforcing a law of the land, so free trade, free practice of religion, and you have to pay taxes instead of to your king, you have to pay taxes to the Mongol Empire.
00:06:34.000But did they really say, we won't kill anyone?
00:07:09.000They use fear as part of the military tactics, right?
00:07:12.000So they want people to be terrified and they want people to talk about how terrifying the Mongol Empire is so that they forfeit more easily.
00:07:23.000You know, there's a lot of aspects of it.
00:07:26.000Not to say that Genghis Khan is a feminist, but there's a lot of progressive aspects.
00:07:31.000He put a lot of women in positions of power.
00:08:00.000If you just fucking take them and make them have your kids.
00:08:03.000There's the kind of mass rape that the Soviet soldiers did at the end of World War II when they're marching towards Berlin, which is extremely violent, vicious, and sort of that kind of rape, which is part of the terror of war.
00:08:18.000And then there's like creating a harem of women, right?
00:08:28.000I think the main point is that, you know, this is something you talk about, that a large percent of the population, as that one study from like 20 years ago, found are descendants of Genghis Khan.
00:08:58.000Have your DNA propagate throughout civilization by raping.
00:09:02.000You have to have everybody to have a high status for people that are associated with Genghis Khan.
00:09:11.000You can't have that kind of thing with fear.
00:09:14.000You can only do it with respect and high status.
00:09:17.000And he, for several generations, created an empire that was flourishing.
00:09:23.000Okay, you're kind of whitewashing that.
00:09:26.000I mean, they killed a million people in Jin China and turned their bones into a stack, a pile that they recognized as snow-covered mountains from the distance.
00:09:38.000That's what they thought it was until they got up on it.
00:09:41.000When the Shah of Chorisma came there to check it out, he's like, where is everybody?
00:09:46.000They had abandoned the roads because there were so many dead bodies that the roads had deteriorated into muck.
00:09:53.000Yeah, let me actually sort of backtrack a little bit here because I'm uncomfortable because I'm deeply involved in the military affairs of modern day.
00:11:36.000Of course, the Ukrainian military will say it's about the effectiveness of the Ukrainian military.
00:11:44.000And also one of the other things they say is that the medical capabilities, so the medics are really strong on the Ukrainian side, which is also tragic because you're able to save lives, but you have the injuries, the pain of war, you know, that the veterans have to go through.
00:12:03.000So they're able to save lives more effectively also.
00:12:07.000But there is a big characteristic of the invading force usually loses more people.
00:13:34.000And so, and I should say in World War II. A lot of my family was slaughtered in Babi Yar, which is a ravine in Kiev, where they gather people around, the Nazis, and they just put them in this ravine and just shot them and put another layer of humans, told them to get naked and lay face down and slaughter and slaughter like this.
00:14:09.000He's a machine gunner, which he's one of the few that survives, which is the reason I'm here, that they basically tried to hold off the Nazi armada.
00:14:22.000And the surreal aspect of all of this is the same land.
00:14:26.000I still remember the song 22nd of June.
00:14:46.000Just imagine, speaking of Genghis Khan, complete surprise, just the Nazi armada, just coming, Operation Barbarossa, this massive military force invading your land.
00:15:01.000It's Kiev, and there's the greatest, the biggest battles of all time were on this land.
00:15:07.000The Battle of Kiev, the Battle of Stalingrad, the Battle of Moscow.
00:15:10.000We're talking about hundreds of thousands, millions of people just slaughtering each other.
00:15:15.000And the way Hitler, of course, approached the battle, and so does Stalin, is nobody surrenders.
00:17:18.000From the perspective of Ukraine, you want to make peace from strength.
00:17:23.000So when you're in a position of strength.
00:17:25.000The first time to make peace was March and April of 2022, when the Ukrainian forces were able to successfully defend the north, defend Kyiv.
00:17:36.000There's this huge optimism, this belief that we push back this gigantic Russian military.
00:17:46.000And the confidence both of the U.S. funding, the European militaries, and the Ukrainian military that we can win this.
00:17:55.000This is when you make peace, when there is a perception and a reality of strength.
00:18:03.000The second time was in the fall of 2022, when there was a successful counteroffensive by the Ukrainian forces that recaptured Kharkiv and Kherson.
00:18:16.000This is the south and the east of Ukraine.
00:18:19.000And there was this real sense that the Ukrainian forces could defeat the Russian forces.
00:18:28.000A lot of pressure from the U.S. to make peace then.
00:18:31.000This is the strength and perhaps the weakness of Volodymyr Zelensky, who I do think is a historic figure and a great leader, is that he won.
00:18:45.000Deeply emotionally feels the suffering of the people and the loss that war creates.
00:18:52.000And he single-handedly has to unite the nation and carry the will of a people and the morale of a people.
00:18:59.000He has to lift the morale of a people.
00:19:01.000And that kind of man struggles to make peace because he wants justice, not peace.
00:19:08.000And so from a position of strength there, he wants to go further.
00:19:13.000Recapture all of the land that he sees belongs to Ukraine.
00:19:17.000But that's exactly when you make peace.
00:19:20.000And so his very strength, a man that stayed in Kyiv, that said, you know, fuck you.
00:19:28.000We're not going to, we're going to win this.
00:19:32.000That kind of man that lifted a whole nation, that united a whole nation, that man has also struggled to make peace.
00:20:44.000He's still the president for another few days.
00:20:47.000The point is, with Donald Trump, there's a real will and a momentum to make peace.
00:20:54.000There's a respect, there's a fear, there's, you know, whatever you think about Donald Trump, he is this person that world leaders respect in the full meaning of the word respect.
00:22:17.000And it's a war that's so confusing over here, especially to the uninitiated, for the people that are just kind of reading the newspaper and getting a sort of a cursory understanding of what happened.
00:22:31.000And then you've got to get into the whole...
00:22:34.000U.S.-backed coup in 2014, and then you have to think about NATO and the agreement that was made the fall of, you know, when the wall came down in Berlin, the agreement that NATO would not push forth and move closer to Russia, which they violated over and over and over again.
00:22:55.000The whole thing is so complicated that It takes forever just to sort of get an understanding of the pieces that are involved.
00:23:03.000Forget about who's responsible for what, but just like how many different things are happening, you know, simultaneously that are forcing Putin's hand, now Zelensky's hand.
00:23:16.000And just to be on this side of the world watching it take place, it's almost unbelievable.
00:23:22.000It's so hard to believe that Russia and Ukraine, which were both a part of the Soviet Union, Just not that long ago.
00:23:30.000Well, during my lifetime, now they're at war.
00:26:12.000It's okay to sort of criticize and say that there's war crimes, that there's real vicious violence and destruction happening.
00:26:21.000But along that, there has to be a door open of respect, of I'm willing to come to the table to negotiate and respect the other nation's interests, as opposed to saying I'm only going to talk to the United States.
00:28:18.000So Zelensky comes down, they've been meeting with Zelensky, but there is no meeting with Putin.
00:28:22.000I think the right thing to do is to go to, whether it's Switzerland or Turkey, Istanbul or Minsk.
00:28:32.000The biggest thing for me would be literally the three of them sit together.
00:28:37.000I think I trust in Trump's negotiation ability and the carrot and the stick of the United States military and the United States economy for being able to control oil prices, being able to control trade with tariffs, being able to threaten.
00:28:59.000Military force and funding and so on, plus sanctions, all of this.
00:29:04.000You can roll in with that carrot and stick, implied or made implicit or explicit, and just sit at the table and talk like human beings and show each other respect.
00:29:17.000That, you know, is one of the things that actually COVID did.
00:29:21.000There's something that happens where remote communication just is not it.
00:29:27.000Like, the silly thing about this podcast being in person, right?
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00:32:31.000I think that's a truly heroic act to stay when you know...
00:32:36.000When nobody knows what's going to happen and all the experts are saying Kiev is going to be taken.
00:32:41.000To stay as a leader in that same place where you were the night before, like working, and not flee when everybody, the CIA, everybody's telling you to flee.
00:32:52.000To stay there like a bad motherfucker and actually go outside and film yourself speaking to the nation that we're going to win this.
00:36:30.000When all the media channels are being controlled and the president and everybody is so invested in, quote-unquote, winning the war, then where are the critical voices that say we need peace?
00:36:46.000They're coming from the outside, but you need that.
00:38:07.000At least to me, that's really important that he, as a single human being, and the people really close around him, like really close.
00:38:15.000Corruption starts to seep in, of course, when you go further out.
00:38:19.000But in that direct human being, he is not personally corrupt.
00:38:27.000Financially speaking, he singularly believes in the idea of Ukraine as a sovereign nation, and he's willing to die for that idea.
00:38:37.000That is his strength, and that is also his weakness, when it's time to make peace.
00:38:43.000When you are preparing to do something like this, and you are, you know, you're doing your research, you're getting ready to go do it, what are your concerns, other than your own physical safety, of course?
00:39:01.000Like, ultimately, what's your concerns?
00:39:03.000What are your goals when you're setting out to do this?
00:39:05.000Because this is very different than any other kind of podcast interview.
00:39:11.000There's no other format, really, where a world leader in the middle of a huge international conflict is going to sit down for three hours and talk to an American scientist.
00:40:14.000I should say, like, privately, after I did a conversation with Zelensky, every single person that knows the situation well knows me personally.
00:40:23.000Has written to me and it's all been really positive.
00:40:56.000But there's an enormous element of that that's real.
00:40:59.000Whether it's bots or whether it's hired people, paid propagandists, the conversation is not a pure conversation between people expressing their ideas.
00:41:09.000There's a lot of propaganda online and it's very confusing to try to discern what the percentage is.
00:41:17.000You know, we've talked about this a bunch of times on the podcast, but there was a former FBI analyst who estimated that it's on Twitter alone.
00:41:29.00080% not just propaganda, like government propaganda, but most certainly corporations are hiring people to do similar things.
00:41:39.000I'm sure there's companies that will do that for public figures, actors, people that are involved in conflict.
00:41:48.000This is part of the Blake Lively dispute.
00:41:53.000She's accusing that Justin Baldoni actor of an organized attack on her, which is probably what it feels like anyway when you're involved in something on social media, like, oh my god, this is organized, or they're attacking you.
00:42:13.000Ideally, what we would want with social media is...
00:42:16.000Different people, informed and uninformed, but at least expressing their ideas on things and exchanging information back and forth and talking.
00:45:17.000And I think so many people are involved in it, and they don't realize that they're poisoning their brain, just like they would poison their body if they were eating junk food all day.
00:45:44.000I wear my heart on my sleeve maybe a little bit more, and what if I, like, shit gets to me.
00:45:51.000And, you know, when you try to put compassion out there in the world in the way I did, especially with this conversation with Zelensky, the attacks, like...
00:46:01.000You just have to recognize who the kind of people that are doing that are.
00:46:33.000But then all of us are a bit mentally ill.
00:46:35.000Yeah, well, we're all a little mentally ill.
00:46:37.000Like, no one is enlightened that I've met.
00:46:39.000I've never met one person who's perfect, right?
00:46:41.000I don't think it's possible with this journey that we're on as these meat vehicles, these soul-carrying meat vehicles navigating a very confusing world.
00:46:52.000I don't think it's possible to be perfect.
00:46:55.000You can have a desire to be a good person, and some people don't have that.
00:46:59.000And the excuse that they always use is...
00:47:03.000I mean, this is the Donald Trump excuse.
00:47:05.000You do anything you can to stop Hitler, you know?
00:47:16.000The problem with that is that just after a while, it's crying wolf and people like, oh, this is a bullshit game you're playing and you're just using it as an excuse.
00:47:23.000Elon's talked about this a lot about, and he's absolutely correct, is that people use woke ideology as an excuse to be an asshole.
00:47:34.000And it's really just people that are assholes that are attaching themselves to things that make them feel righteous.
00:47:44.000To give them virtue and to allow them to say the most awful things about other people that have different perspectives and then just by nature, if you're doing that, you're doing the wrong thing.
00:47:59.000You can find people that agree with you all you want.
00:48:01.000But those people are also on the wrong track.
00:48:04.000The people that are listening to you and agreeing with you, they're on the wrong track.
00:48:07.000They're the wrong track if we want to be collectively a kind, compassionate, cohesive society, a community of human beings that all live together.
00:48:19.000If you can do it in small groups of people, you can do it in enormous groups of people.
00:48:24.000It just has to be an ethic that gets promoted.
00:48:26.000It has to be something that you see people that you admire adhere to, and you do it as well.
00:48:34.000Whenever someone goes outside of that, and whenever someone starts making horrific, unfounded personal attacks because someone has a different political ideology or...
00:48:46.000You know, just going after them every day, all day long.
00:48:54.000And intelligent, aware people that have control of their emotions recognize that, and they're not going to take your perspective seriously.
00:49:01.000So you're going to be less and less effective with what you do.
00:49:06.000And in general, the failure mode is to paint the world, to draw a line between good and evil.
00:49:21.000So I'm a big proponent of Solzhenitsyn's famous, the author of Gulag Archipelago, that the line between good and evil runs to the heart of every man, that all of us have that in us.
00:50:03.000You know, even like I'm watching the Pete Hegseth, the confirmation hearings, and they...
00:50:12.000These ignorant people are going after his tattoo, not even knowing what the tattoo is, and trying to pretend that it's some sort of radical, hateful tattoo when it's just an ancient Christian tattoo.
00:50:40.000And I was watching the Piers Morgan show and Piers Morgan had Michael Knowles and these two super wack and Dave Rubin and two super wacky leftist people that didn't know what the tattoo was and they were criticizing it and Piers Morgan kept asking, what is the tattoo?
00:51:06.000I want you to tell me if you're saying it's offensive.
00:51:09.000And so then the woman chimes in and Michael Knowles just clowns her, just absolutely knows the history of the tattoo, including like, you know, she's talking about it before it existed before Islam, you know, and she's criticizing what it is.
00:51:28.000And he's like, do you understand that?
00:51:29.000Islam didn't exist when this tattoo, when this symbol existed.
00:51:34.000Like, it's not an anti-Muslim symbol because there was no Muslims when this symbol was created.
00:52:42.000Watching this guy, like, flounder around trying to come up with a reason why this tattoo is so offensive.
00:52:48.000Yeah, but see, what I don't like about that is that guy is floundering, but there could be actually facets to that person outside of this ridiculousness.
00:53:02.000If you want to be the guy who's on television talking about important issues, and you've got this stupid thing in your head where you're arguing about a tattoo that you don't even understand, you've got to cleanse that stupidity out of your fucking mind.
00:53:14.000Sometimes the best way to do that is to get clowned on television.
00:53:18.000So you got exposed, she got exposed, they both look like morons, and then Michael Nolas, who...
00:53:24.000Did a fantastic job of like smiling, never raising his voice, calmly explaining it.
00:54:00.000This is the thing that bothers me about comments, is I don't read them, but, like, I don't know, my mom will read them, and she'll text me something like, don't listen to what people say.
00:54:28.000You could accuse Pete of as being too alert and energetic.
00:54:31.000I found it overwhelming, actually, while I was there, tired, trying to dust the sand out of my eyes.
00:54:37.000But you suggest that the graduate of Princeton and Harvard, who for decades has been in the U.S. military, served his country honorably, that he's somehow unqualified to work at the Pentagon.
00:54:50.000The most egregious accusation you make against him, though, is that he's an extremist because he has a tattoo.
00:57:37.000The tattoo in question is called a Jerusalem cross.
00:57:42.000This is a medieval Christian symbol that goes back a long time.
00:57:45.000In fact, at Jimmy Carter's funeral, there was a Jerusalem cross on the floor of the cathedral and on the program for the funeral.
00:57:51.000There's one other tattoo that some have suggested could be extremist.
00:57:55.000It's the phrase deus volt, which is a medieval Christian slogan, a long traditional slogan that refers to God's will, and it goes back a long way.
00:58:04.000These are very traditional, very mainstream Christian symbols that not only are not extreme in any way, but which even the people who want to accuse him of extremism couldn't possibly name.
00:58:42.000I'll tell you what, before you answer, I know you said in your sub stack about this, under normal circumstances, he, Pete Hexteth, would be precluded from serving...
00:58:58.000Let me go back to something that was said in the very beginning, that he spent more than 10 years at Fox News, and that's what qualifies him to be in this position that he wants to be in.
00:59:07.000I spent more than 10 years at Fox News.
00:59:09.000I don't think I'm qualified to run the DoD whatsoever based on my time at Fox News.
00:59:47.000But I will say that the reason that there are so many people who anonymously came forward at Fox News is that because they're also bound by confidentiality provisions, which one-third of all American workers need to sign on their first day of work.
00:59:58.000And if they were to go public, they could get sued.
01:00:01.000The reason this accuser is not heard from is because, according to The New Yorker, She tried desperately to meet with Joni Ernst on the committee, and Joni Ernst turned her down.
01:00:12.000So the reason that she has not been able to come out publicly is because she has an NDA, and even privately, she could not meet with a senator on this committee who is also a rape survivor to share her story, because that rape survivor did not want to hear from a woman who was going to put her potentially in a position to vote against Pete Hexeth.
01:00:31.000Peter Hexeth has written himself while at Princeton saying that women who are passed out, if you have sex with them while they're unconscious, that's not really rape.
01:01:06.000So I don't know which soldiers you've been talking to who think Pete Hexeth is a great thing for the military.
01:01:11.000There's not one woman out there who cares about being assaulted on deployment, who thinks that this is the person that needs to be in charge of the United States military.
01:01:21.000And as for the cross that you talked about, yes, Deus Vult, which is the cross that he has, and the slogan that he has, is an old Christian cross.
01:03:30.000I cannot even believe that something the Vatican apologized for is something you're defending, which is the slaughter of Jews and Muslims during the Crusades.
01:03:42.000Why don't you give me a call after this, and I will walk you through exactly what the Vatican apologized for when it came to the treatment of Muslims during the Crusades.
01:04:44.000Bemusing yet mandatory orientation program revolved entirely around whether in an instance of sexual intercourse constituted rape, the actual instance portrayed in the skit was in fact...
01:05:26.000So are they talking about, this is what's confusing, are they talking, it says a skit, and then it says they're talking about a legal definition of rape?
01:05:36.000Has the legal definition changed over the years?
01:06:20.0002000-ish, I remember when we were doing the podcast, there was a brief moment of time where people were talking about if a man had sex with a woman and they had both been drinking, that it was rape.
01:06:33.000That the woman could not consent because she was drunk.
01:08:10.000Both, like, with the thing about Trump, with both sides...
01:08:13.000But that right there is crazy, because my opinion of him shifted briefly when I was...
01:08:17.000You know, I was watching Daniel Negreanu, you know, the great poker player, was on Tim Pool's show.
01:08:23.000And they were talking about his shift in political ideologies, and then a lot of it came from...
01:08:30.000When they were accusing Trump of saying that thing that Obama repeated falsely during the campaign was that he was talking about white nationalists and neo-Nazis and saying there's very fine people on both sides.
01:10:12.000Because you can't have an erroneous idea in your head and repeat it over and over again.
01:10:16.000You can't have an incorrect, false opinion that you have defended and now you can't ever accept, even with new information that shows that it's not true.
01:10:26.000I should also say, because it's fucking sitting in my head, on this topic.
01:10:32.000I'm probably going to do like a five plus hour interview with Jack Weatherford on Genghis Khan.
01:10:55.000In me, the eloquence or the skill to improve on that.
01:10:59.000I think, in general, it's trying to find the right words to describe the historically accurate thing, the data that we have, and then the narratives.
01:11:14.000I think the point Jack Weatherford makes is that we keep oscillating back and forth on Genghis Khan.
01:14:22.000They said that a lot of the skeletons they find from that era, their bones are deformed.
01:14:28.000Because your whole body has just been pulling a hundred and sixty pounds with your right arm or your left arm like your whole life so your right side is like Insanely muscled and your bones are all twisted and thicker and denser tendons and everything because they've been doing that since they were children They were an insanely formidable army Insanely formidable.
01:14:53.000But here's something to take into consideration when we're saying about how Genghis Khan's genes were spread.
01:15:02.000Just right off the bat, it's all awful.
01:15:11.000There was so much of it going on throughout human history that women There was a survival mechanism in accepting this conqueror as your new husband when he slaughtered your husband.
01:15:27.000It's the only way your genes passed on.
01:15:30.000So these women were able, even if they said they fell in love with him, even if they did marry him, even if they were happy to marry him, there was...
01:15:40.000Like almost an evolutionary requirement because we slaughtered each other so much that if you wanted your genes to pass on, you had to accept the slaughter of your former mate.
01:15:52.000And then in modern day society, we would call that rape.
01:15:55.000But you have to use different words for that time because there is rape where it's like violent.
01:16:05.000Rape as part of war as part of a mechanism of terror I think even as just part of society up until like a few thousand years ago or even a few hundred years ago, I think human beings you know like I've had a bunch of friends who've served overseas and the stories they tell from Afghanistan especially with the child raping fucking bone curdling like you blood curdling You just want to leave the room when
01:17:51.000No, he understood that women are able to...
01:17:55.000Men conquer better, in his perspective, and women rule better, because they keep a stable society.
01:18:03.000So he would marry a woman to the king of the place, and then send the king off to fight, the ruler to fight, knowing for sure he's going to die.
01:19:03.000The origin story of Genghis Khan is like the love of his life who was married to him for his whole life that he proposed or he said, we're going to marry at nine years old.
01:25:06.000In fact, one of the reasons, I hesitate to say this because people are projecting to the future, but he took Kiev and slaughtered people because they broke the rule of, I forget the term for this, but the people that are sent out to communicate.
01:27:14.000The early days of the podcast, that was the only sponsor we had.
01:27:17.000So it's like, you know, this is, again, you reacting to criticism, right?
01:27:26.000So it's like the fear of the criticism of you yourself knowing you could have done a better job of explaining that had you prepared something, which is really the difference between off-the-cuff conversations and like...
01:27:39.000Your actual well-considered thoughts on things expressed in the best way possible, which is what you would do if you're going to write it out, if you're going to write a Substack piece about it.
01:27:48.000Well, one of the things I'm trying to do for myself personally, I think a lot of people have to do this, young kids have to do this, is figure out how to create a psychological framework where I'm not affected by the internet.
01:28:01.000It sounds like ridiculous to say, but you say don't read the comments, but they come at you.
01:29:22.000I don't think it's healthy for you, because I think, first of all, I've said this before, I'm only kind of joking, but I'm kind of serious.
01:29:33.000If you're doing it all the time, and you're doing it in a negative way all the time, this is not everybody.
01:29:37.000There's a lot of really well-thought-out commentary on YouTube videos that I see, if occasionally I'll read someone's Instagram page, and I'll read my friends' comments.
01:30:29.000What you're supposed to do, if you really follow Jesus' teaching, is be completely non-violent and be a beautiful person and love everybody like it's your brother.
01:30:55.000That's so true and maybe even more true today because of the unnatural world in which we're thrust in.
01:31:03.000So not only are people doing things that they hate most of the time, but they're also engaging.
01:31:09.000With their phone more than they are with people.
01:31:11.000So they're engaging in this very bizarre, non-physical way that is detached from any human interaction, detached from emotions, eye contact, the feel of being with someone, the back and forth of a conversation between two people.
01:31:26.000Like if you and I were going to disagree about something, if there was like some political thing or some social thing that you and I disagreed about, we could sit And just, I want to know why you think the way you think.
01:32:04.000You have to be as charitable to that position as possible.
01:32:07.000And then occasionally, when you find things that you disagree with, you have to stop and you have to say, okay, here's my problem with this.
01:33:52.000Yeah, I just have a few more steps that I have to do before I switch over, and I'm going to try to communicate only with encrypted apps from now on.
01:39:42.000I think if you just looked at the natural progression of human beings and what we're talking about with quantum computing and AI and the technological innovations that are...
01:39:51.000Without doubt gonna hit us like a tsunami over the next 20 years 30 years whatever it is we What are we gonna become?
01:40:00.000We're gonna become what they are the same kind of thing and if there was a planet that had something like us That's emerging and just figuring out how to split the atom and you know and still involved in tribal warfare A primate that's still involved with tribal warfare but now has nuclear bombs.
01:40:42.000Like, when Paul was saying that they were there and they realized that the tribe was close, like they were starting to hear things, and they realized they were probably being hunted, and they just got the fuck out of there as quick as they could, that's terrifying.
01:40:56.000I do not want to wake up to news on my feed that Paul Rosalie got killed by an uncontacted tribe.
01:41:05.000I mean, that guy leaps into adventure.
01:41:08.000I've gotten the chance to hang out with him, and it's great.
01:44:45.000Like, they've just been, that's the only way to survive.
01:44:48.000If you're a kid, and you have a brother who's four years old, and your dad is a raging alcoholic, and he beats your mom in front of you, and your brother beats your ass too.
01:46:20.000I mean, you have to have a very exceptional father who recognizes the requirements that this kid is going to go through if you're fucking Genghis Khan's son.
01:46:28.000And meanwhile, you're also running an empire.
01:46:38.000And you have to know which ones to push and which ones to just let them be themselves, which ones to support, which ones to encourage, and how to encourage and how to...
01:46:48.000How to instill discipline, how to show them how important it is to feel the pain of loss and to feel like failure and to understand that this doesn't make you a bad person.
01:47:00.000These are just the lessons of life and the energy that comes with doing something well and throwing yourself into something and finding success versus half-assing your existence and feeling filled with misery and regret.
01:47:12.000And that's a difficult thing when you're sleeping on silk sheets.
01:47:17.000You know, that was like what Marvin Hagley used to talk about.
01:47:21.000Like, you know, it's hard to get up in the morning and run when you're sleeping in silk sheets.
01:47:25.000He was talking about the pull of as you become successful, boxers get softer.
01:47:30.000And it's because they start getting rich.
01:47:32.000You know, and then, you know, just chill a little bit.
01:47:35.000Well, if you have a son then, and the son's growing up rich, and you're chill, like, fuck, man.
01:47:50.000Definitely shouldn't be mean to your kid, just so that they can be a badass fighter.
01:47:55.000Well, I think it's also, there's probably a balance you can hit, but a lot of these folks, because they had nothing, they want to spoil their kids.
01:48:04.000They go too far in the other direction.
01:48:24.000But it's like, to do that, if you're a conqueror, and you came up from shooting your brother with a bow and arrow, and then raising an army to take back your wife, and then you have children, and your children are born when you're 40, you know, and you've got this insane empire that's like one of the most Spectacular and impressive military accomplishments.
01:48:49.000If you just look at it in terms of just like the sheer numbers of human beings they sent into the reincarnation cycle.
01:50:02.000You know, that's one of the qualities of...
01:50:05.000There's a perception of Zelensky, sort of the actor, the showman, all that kind of stuff.
01:50:08.000Some of that is true, but in his interactions that I'm aware of with the soldiers, there is no...
01:50:15.000Like, he wants to be on the exact same level, sleep on the same bunks, no glamour, none of that, which I personally admire in a leader in general.
01:50:48.000And that's the thing if people have always said the number one concern that people have with the military-industrial complex is sending young men.
01:50:57.000To die in a war that's unnecessary for profit while you are in an air-conditioned office, right?
01:51:04.000That was during Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
01:52:00.000Yes, in terms of, for example, you've seen a lot of people die, children die, and if you've seen enough, the idea of quote-unquote peace is a dirty word.
01:52:32.000I think the most recent estimate, and they don't even know because there's so many people that are under rubble, the most recent estimate was somewhere north of 60,000 people.
01:53:40.000I don't know what the exact numbers are.
01:53:42.000But it's crazy that they were not freed sooner.
01:53:46.000The whole thing's horrible, from top to bottom, including all the people that have decided what happened, people that are saying it was definitely a false flag.
01:53:57.000Like, boy, these things are complicated.
01:55:08.000And so the big conspiracy fear has always been when a leader knows that they're going to get pushed out, they'll start a false flag or start a war.
01:55:18.000So they look at October 7th and they say they let that happen.
01:55:45.000Because right now the country is unified.
01:55:47.000If you end the war and you have elections, now you have to face a lot of the consequences internally about the potential discovery of corruption, about the suspension of democracy, about all these things.
01:55:58.000And the same thing with Netanyahu, who, by the way, also, they want to do a three-hour podcast with me.
01:56:07.000I talked to him before October 7th for an hour.
01:56:37.000Because I was like, maybe if I could just come in at a 10 to work my brain up.
01:56:42.000Like really come in and just engage with her real quick.
01:56:45.000I just wanted to get I wanted to get loose I don't the problem is like I want to see how you are as a real person I think actually genuinely with you and Kamala Harris, I think 45 minutes is horrible, but I think you're so skilled and like Compassionate just like it's fun fun to talk to you.
01:57:05.000I think you would just end up being much much longer That's that's the hope if that's the hope yeah There would be questions, though, and some questions would be very complicated, like the immigration question.
01:58:03.000That Americans aren't willing to do jobs and you want to bring in illegal people?
01:58:08.000How about just make legal immigration easier for poor people that are trying to get over here?
01:58:12.000How about just scan them, screen them, make sure that they're not fucking murderers, make sure they're not cartel members, and then let them in easier?
01:58:20.000Like, wouldn't that be a better way to do it, to vet people?
01:58:23.000But the idea of not vetting people just doesn't make any sense at all.
01:59:13.000Yeah, you don't vote, but you don't pay federal income tax.
01:59:16.000I feel like I think you're going to go to jail someday.
01:59:19.000I think one day they're going to fucking pull you inside and go, we changed that rule and you owe us $4 billion in back taxes, you fucking criminal.
02:00:00.000At what point in time do we not say, how far do we have to slip down the list?
02:00:06.000of like the best performing students in the world before someone comes along and says hey the whole thing about this place is if our kids are losers they're gonna grow up to become loser adults make it way easier to be a winner What's the best way to do that?
02:00:24.000Just imagine if they completely revamped the education system in this country, just poured a shitload of money and had the wisest minds come up with a brilliant strategy for more creative ways of approaching learning, pushing people into viable pathways that maybe didn't even exist when the education system was structured.
02:00:46.000Because things have changed so much in the world.
02:00:48.000You could probably do a Way better job than we're doing, which would make people come out of that, they would emerge better qualified people.
02:00:57.000So we would get more shit done in America.
02:01:09.000It's not just let in all the immigrants.
02:01:11.000How about fix what we got here and then expand that outward?
02:01:16.000Like, make this place the best it can be and then expand that idea out to the rest of the world.
02:01:23.000So instead of, like, letting everybody walk here from third world countries, because third world countries suck, expand what's better out to the rest of the world.
02:01:32.000And a big part of that is actually culturally changing.
02:01:40.000The guy in the class, having gone to school in the Soviet Union, I was good at math, and I was actually, believe it or not, super cool.
02:01:51.000Because I was good at math in class when I was like whoa like I was the cool kid because I was good at math like I was getting like in America I had a girlfriend when I was young.
02:04:20.000If you brought up Richard Feynman, most people that watch the news and read newspapers probably know who he is if they were in their 30s.
02:04:28.000That's not the case today for, say, someone who's groundbreaking research with AI or someone who's involved in quantum computing.
02:04:37.000It's just a few of these science communicators.
02:04:41.000Brian Cox, guys like him were great at it in terms of space.
02:04:45.000And some guys are better at it in terms of talking about AI or talking about all the different emerging technologies because there's so many of them.
02:04:55.000But there's no one person other than Elon.
02:05:01.000Unique character you can't even like you can't put him in the same categories in Einstein because he's just like a cultural weirdness Like who is this guy like making memes?
02:05:12.000Cracking jokes dunking on people telling people to go fuck themselves buys Twitter You know it runs a bunch of different companies simultaneously while playing video games constantly.
02:05:23.000It's like That doesn't fit in anywhere else.
02:05:26.000That's like a very unique Thing that exists this Elon Musk guy like he's one of the most unique human beings in all of history But you can even move to like even the Jeff Bezos who by the way successfully launched the first Rocket yesterday to orbit yeah,
02:05:44.000which is which is incredible amazing even he is gets like I think that's that should be That that should be venerated sure, but he's not the guy that's making the He's not doing the calculations and designing and engineering the machines like Werner Von Braun was.
02:06:00.000So it's like what we're fascinated by today is different.
02:06:05.000We're fascinated by these public figures that talk about the work that's going on, but the people that are actually doing it, there's not one standout.
02:06:13.000Although, to say, both Jeff Bezos and Elon are legit good engineers.
02:06:18.000To see them on the factory floor, they know what they're doing.
02:08:16.000Everybody knows YouTube is the best shit.
02:08:18.000And if you get YouTube on an Android phone natively, instantly, which you can, when you get an Android phone, it already has YouTube loaded onto it.
02:08:26.000Why wouldn't you load it on an iPhone?
02:11:06.000Everyone sort of went back to Twitch after they made deals there.
02:11:07.000So was that a deal where they get a famous streamer, and they say, hey, we're going to give you money to come over to this new platform, and then they try to start the platform?
02:11:50.000So I can see, actually, I'm buying TikTok.
02:11:52.000It makes total sense and integrating it into X. But in terms of long-form content, it's just not quite there because you have to implement all of these features.
02:12:01.000And it is, engineering-wise, really difficult to have that much video.
02:14:34.000So I should give a shout-out to a company called Eleven Labs that do the voice cloning, that do the translation, and what's called text-to-speech.
02:15:33.000So if you want to translate, you first translate, transcribe the original language, translate it on the page and then text-to-speech bring it.
02:15:46.000To life in that other different language.
02:15:48.000The translation step is the tricky one, is the hardest one, where a human should correct and help.
02:17:05.000So, for example, we said he was talking about corruption, sensitive topic.
02:17:09.000He said something like, anybody who we caught doing something with the weapons or being corrupt, we would beat, the exact term is beat them on the hands.
02:17:24.000He was speaking Ukrainian, which in Ukrainian means we'll crack down on them.
02:17:29.000That was automatically translated to slap them on the wrist.
02:18:55.000They were really pushing it, and they were implying, probably correctly, that there's just going to be a lot of dynamic stuff happening on the peace negotiations.
02:19:05.000So he wanted to use this as a statement.
02:19:07.000Because, you know, the Kremlin watched it, so everybody's watching it.
02:19:13.000And, like, it's part of the puzzle pieces that they're using to figure out when we're going to meet.
02:23:12.000The one guy where it's a completely AI-generated thing, voice and everything, and he's talking and he's telling you this is completely AI-generated.
02:23:20.000And you probably can't believe this, but it's true.
02:23:22.000He's explaining how it's done, and it's nuts.
02:25:04.000Which I should say that a lot of people inside Israel probably support.
02:25:10.000I should also say, not now, but earlier in Qatar, when Hamas was in Qatar, they were interested in doing a podcast.
02:25:21.000The members of Hamas were not in hiding, so the representatives were interested in doing a podcast, and there I decided not to because it's like everyone knows what Hamas is.
02:25:32.000It's almost like, easy, why not do a podcast?
02:25:34.000But it was like, well, that just feels...
02:25:38.000I mean, you are platforming hate there that's in a way where you can't properly dissect and present and analyze and push and pull.
02:26:50.000He said something like, everybody loves me.
02:26:54.000I just gave a talk in Iran, and 20 million people listened to me, and they love me.
02:27:03.000So how do you talk to a person where the reality is like, well, no, no, there is people that love you, Prime Minister Netanyahu, but there's quite a lot of people outside.
02:31:15.000But the same organization that did the whole pager thing, the sophisticated intelligence required for that, somehow missed an obvious breach of a...
02:31:57.000What if it blows up while we're watching?
02:31:58.000I don't think at this stage, blowing up, I mean, it would be really awesome if it doesn't blow up, if it flies and then it's caught by the...
02:32:51.000Just find the official SpaceX channel or you can go on X. Yeah, go on X. There's going to be a bunch of bots selling you crypto if you're not careful.
02:33:49.000It's a very different thing this time around.
02:33:51.000People are very hopeful with him as president now, which is very different than in 2016. 2016 was like this existential crisis that the media just blasted into everybody's head.
02:34:02.000I think enough time has passed and enough faith has been lost in the media that people have sort of woken up out of that and realized we can't keep going the way we're going.
02:34:13.000I hope the good vibes continue in general.
02:34:17.000The politicization of everything will not escalate quickly here.
02:37:16.000Because you know that the government is able to fake the fucking moon landing and to get people to shut their mouths and a bunch of people disappeared.
02:38:19.000And then a few years later, everyone's on the moon.
02:38:23.000Gus Grisham, the pilot of Apollo 1, the guy that burned alive in that thing, he hung a lemon on that thing saying that it would never work.
02:38:32.000They couldn't communicate with the tower.
02:38:33.000How's this thing supposed to get us to the moon?
02:38:36.000And that guy, you know, people, his family believes he was murdered for that.
02:38:41.000There's a lot of weirdness in the moon landing, buddy.
02:39:13.000To send people through thousands of miles of intense radiation and have no biological animal that you've ever done that to that's come back alive and just let's try it on people.
02:39:26.000So let me try to convince you as an agent of the Mossad and the CIA. I think...
02:39:34.000Okay, this is from me looking at Wikipedia for about five seconds.
02:39:39.000I thought the belt is not all the way around, so you can go around the belt.
02:39:43.000No, you can get through the top and the bottom, but you have to fly out of Antarctica, and you really can't do that.
02:39:49.000The way we did it, we had to go through it, and we had to go through it, I think it was for a couple hours.
02:41:04.000Nuclear weapons in space like if I was the aliens, that's when I would start showing up like look at these fucking assholes high-altitude nuclear tests What what are people doing?
02:41:15.000Not only that it shut off the power in Hawaii.
02:41:17.000It fucked Hawaii up Hawaii had like a brownout like these guys are psychopaths Can you imagine, like, sitting at a table with a bunch of generals, and this guy comes in with a cigar?
02:41:29.000I want to launch a fucking nuke in space!
02:41:59.000And there's a lot of people asking the question of, like, in the war in Ukraine, whether Putin is willing to use even tactical nuclear weapons.
02:48:05.000I think it's too difficult to harness the power of the sun while you're a tribal monkey and not blow yourself up or fuck things up horribly or just get involved in natural disasters that you didn't adequately prepare for.
02:48:28.000If we have a super volcano, if Yellowstone blows, which it's gonna, one of these is gonna, one of the big ones is gonna blow, they just do.
02:48:34.000It might blow 100,000 years from now, it might blow next week.
02:48:38.000They fucking happen, and we're not prepared.
02:50:26.000We're in the shooting gallery of the universe, and I bet that's pretty common.
02:50:29.000So I bet the race is to try to get intelligent enough that you can do all these different things, but also intelligent enough that you abandon these ancient primal instincts that you have.
02:50:43.000And that's where we're at the cusp of that.
02:50:47.000We're at the cusp of our tribal chaos mixed in with impossible knowledge.
02:50:55.000And it's all like happening at the same time.
02:50:57.000And so there's this wild race that's going on.
02:51:01.000And people like you and people like me and people that are hopeful, we hope we get it right.
02:51:08.000And I think out there in the universe, I think it's probably more likely that people don't get it right than do get it right.
02:51:15.000And if they do get wiped out, I mean, we got the Toba volcano, we got down somewhere around 70,000 years ago to a few thousand people on Earth.
02:51:31.000Well, that's one of the things I've just seen, even on the smaller scale of the war in Ukraine, is, you know, your house or the city gets destroyed, and people adapt immediately.
02:53:31.000And we don't think it's fragile because the power stays on.
02:53:34.000Yeah, and one of the things, you know, just having traveled across the world, like the thing that really America stands out with and why I'm excited about what's happening now is the radical individual freedom.
02:53:45.000I think the freer the country is, the individual, back to Genghis Khan with the freedom to practice religion, the freer the people are, the more resilient they are to the...
02:53:59.000The terrors, the catastrophes of the world.
02:55:13.000Attacking people, what's happened with this country because of January 6th and their version of it and what actually happened.
02:55:24.000You know, what the FBI did with the Twitter files, with influencing things, what they did with Facebook, where they contacted and were telling them to take down memes.
02:55:35.000Can I actually just say about that, I don't know if he gets enough credit, but I think what Mark Zuckerberg did on your podcast is actually, it may not seem that way, but it's courageous.
02:55:56.000Like, you either get in the way and get rolled over or you get on board.
02:56:02.000And if you want your company to succeed in today's day and age and not be disdained and universally, whether it's whether people boycott it or people just start hating on it, the stock drops.
02:56:16.000Like, if a new thing that's like Facebook, because Facebook is, although it's so common, It's one of those ones you could do without, kind of.
02:56:27.000It doesn't have the kind of information gathering aspect that X does.
02:56:32.000Like, if I want to find out what's going on in the world, I go to X. Facebook's not like that.
02:56:35.000It's like people talking about stuff and posting videos and things, like...
02:57:27.000It's the best way to find out what's real and what's not real.
02:57:30.000But then it's also like, you know, should you let people on your platform that are just fucking straight up Nazis and trying to recruit people?
02:57:37.000Should you let horrible racism exist on your platform?
02:57:41.000The problem was that slippery slope, man.
02:57:43.000If you say no, if you say no, then other people are going to decide.
02:57:50.000Were people saying you should punch a Nazi?
02:57:52.000I remember Kurt Metzger was like, well, who fucking gets to say who's a Nazi?
02:57:57.000If it was just a guy running a gas chamber, yeah, punch a Nazi.
02:58:03.000But if it's just some guy who doesn't think that a trans woman should be competing against his daughter in high school sports, like, that's not a Nazi.
03:03:12.000He was describing that it has all the attributes of a cult.
03:03:17.000And I think people have a default system in their mind, we all do, that we fall into, that gives us a religious-like adherence to some ideas.
03:03:28.000And the thing that this cult is lacking, which is paramount to Christianity, is forgiveness.
03:03:47.000There's always crazy people that are like far to the end of it and every ideological group gets defined by its most extreme members.
03:03:54.000That's why when people think about, like, far-right people, who do you think are the worst people?
03:03:58.000You think of, like, people who want war, warmongers, assholes, you know, stupid people, uneducated.
03:04:04.000That's what people think of when they think of, like, the worst.
03:04:06.000They think of, like, white nationalists.
03:04:08.000That's what they think of when they think of far-right.
03:04:10.000So you can kind of, like, you flavor everything else in the group by the worst members of the group.
03:04:15.000And if you don't have forgiveness in your religion, like, you have a fucking terrible religion.
03:04:20.000If you don't have a path to redemption.
03:04:22.000And you want extreme adherence to dogma, even if, like, even if whatever this idea with this ideology that you're pushing is, like, clearly, clearly destructive to a bunch of humans.
03:04:37.000It's like people fall into thought patterns, man.
03:04:40.000Most people are too busy to formulize their own opinions, so they develop opinions to sort of merge with the people that they're in touch with all the time.
03:04:49.000And if you get stuck in one of those fucking woke hives, you're basically surrounded by mentally ill people that are preaching in a logical version of the world that no one believes could ever exist.
03:05:05.000I hope there will be left-wing leaders that emerge that kind of shed that.
03:05:11.000I think they will have to just by virtue of their survival.
03:05:14.000I think the woke thing is so widely rejected now.
03:05:18.000And when I say the woke thing, I mean what Elon calls the mind virus.
03:05:54.000And the inability to discern who's a pervert and who's actually trans, like the impossible nature and then just greenlighting perverts to do whatever they want.
03:06:04.000And that, you know, my concern is I do think the woke-ism is either dying or dead.
03:06:10.000My concern is those folks who are now looking for a new religion.
03:06:13.000There's people like that on the right.
03:11:13.000I just feel like there's a lot of tribes in the Amazon.
03:11:17.000I think there are, but I bet it takes a long-ass time for it to get to the distance that our Earth got from the sun, where you can get liquid water.
03:11:25.000And it only lasts for a little while until it freezes again.