In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, I sit down with my good friend, Dr. Aaron Zukerman, to talk about his work in the field of Post Traumatic Brain Injury (PTSD) and PTSD. Aaron has been a member of the VA for over 30 years and has been involved in the treatment of PTSD and other traumatic brain injuries (TBI) for over 20 years. He is an expert in this field and has spent the last 4 years working with veterans and their families. He is also an avid skier and skier lover.
00:00:56.000You know, the family's expanding, which is great.
00:01:00.000All three daughters have been married and each has a grandchild, which is making me feel old.
00:01:06.000So I've ramped up, stepped up my hormonal treatment to keep me on edge because I want to be around a lot longer to take care of these kids or to be with the kids.
00:01:14.000They're just 16 months, but they're still fantastic.
00:01:21.000But in the world that I work in, in the medical arena, it's been expanding rapidly.
00:01:27.000The new administration has a part to play in it, which is great.
00:01:30.000But even before that, the number of results that we're having, the outcome from TBI, PTSD, and what have you, has been accelerating because of some of our testing that we do, as well as our treatment that we've initiated.
00:01:48.000Change since four years ago, since last time.
00:01:50.000What have you added in the last four years?
00:01:52.000Well, we've added a lot more nootropic, excuse me, not nutraceuticals, natural products into our regiment.
00:02:00.000You know, I spent 16 years looking at the science behind things that can get into the brain and alter the inflammation that occurs in the brain.
00:02:07.000The whole premise of everything that I've been doing for the last 30 years has been based upon inflammation in the brain.
00:02:13.000And the inflammation is what stops all the chemistry and why we develop that.
00:02:19.000I don't know if you saw the article, which is called Influence of Media on the Mental Health of America, which used to be called the Trump Derangement Syndrome, but I got so much backlash from having that title.
00:02:31.000People wouldn't read it because of the title.
00:02:32.000And it talks about how constant stress from the media.
00:02:36.000Echo chambers, social media, reading all this bullshit, causes cortisol to go up.
00:03:07.000And then you're always thinking you're about to get into some sort of a physical altercation with an armed enemy coming over the top of the hill.
00:03:15.000Vigilant state, just like our army goes through.
00:03:20.000And the thing, the army, and a lot of these people that you've worked with is...
00:03:24.000From IEDs and from blowing through doors and stuff like that, they get damage to their pituitary gland.
00:03:31.000You know, we've talked about it many, many times on the podcast.
00:03:34.000But I think one of the misperceptions is, as you said, and I apologize for that, is that we think it's all due to pituitary gland, but it isn't.
00:03:42.000In the work that we've been doing, it shows that when you have inflammation in the brain, regardless of how it's developed, whether or not it's IED or slip and fall, or as we've talked in the past, even wave run.
00:03:54.000Or ski-doos, or skiing, or water skiing, snow skiing, or going to the range, the.50 caliber gunners.
00:04:03.000What happens is it creates this inflammation that shuts off the ability of the brain to regulate the pituitary gland.
00:04:09.000So you can do all the MRIs as they do at the VA and they see a normal pituitary gland and says, oh, pituitary is normal.
00:04:45.000Yeah, tau proteins, hyperphosphorated tau becomes these NFTs, these neurofibril tangles, which is an interesting issue.
00:04:56.000It's been part of my last year of deep dive, trying to find out why is it that you develop CTE? Or the symptoms relative to CT. Why is it that you develop the symptoms relative to Parkinson's or Alzheimer's or multiple sclerosis?
00:05:11.000Well, it turns out that the biochemistry is all the same.
00:05:15.000Something called beta amyloid, which is the hallmark for someone with Alzheimer's disease.
00:05:20.000And then these tau proteins, hyperphosphylated tau proteins that they call NFTs, that they circulate around the blood vessels.
00:05:28.000And they create this intense inflammation.
00:05:30.000And that intense inflammation causes loss of blood supply, damage to neurons.
00:06:42.000I know you've had a lot of people here talking about mitochondrial function, and that's a major piece in how to reverse things like neurodegenerative diseases and improve mental functioning.
00:07:37.000Quercetin, you were explaining to me before that it's an ionophore and that it gets ions into the bloodstream better, so it's when you consume it with zinc.
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00:09:27.000Well, it works with SARS, and it works with influenza A and B. It works with rhinovirus and enterovirus, gut viruses, that you can get during summertime.
00:09:37.000So what I was just getting at is it's beneficial for people all year round, not just people that think they might be getting...
00:09:51.000I take 30. And you do that twice a day?
00:09:53.000I do the quercetin twice a day, but zinc, because my levels are where they're at, I don't put a lot of zinc in because zinc's involved in about 300 processes in the body.
00:10:04.000It's antiviral that we just talked about.
00:10:07.000It's anti-Alzheimer's because it turns out that the production of The chemical called beta-amyloid, there's an enzyme that regulates it, and it's zinc-dependent.
00:10:18.000So if it's working, it's called secretase.
00:10:26.000So beta-secretase takes and makes the beta-amyloid that causes the Alzheimer's, the inflammation.
00:10:32.000And with that inflammation, you then start getting the same thing in CTE. So in all these inflammatory conditions, they have the same beta amyloid and cause for CTE, the hyperphosphylated tau protein that we call NFTs, neurofibro tangles.
00:10:54.000So what quercetin does is it increases mitochondrial replication in about seven days, doubles the amount of mitochondria intracellularly.
00:11:03.000It helps increase in the liver something called IGF binding protein 3, insulin-like binding protein 3. Binding protein 3 is always looked at as being the carrier for IGF-1, insulin-like growth factor, growth hormone.
00:11:18.000Turns on in the liver, the production of insulin-like growth factor, which is the main below-the-neck growth factor for our body, improves protein synthesis, decreases inflammation, too.
00:11:33.000When you're talking about beta amyloid and Alzheimer's, wasn't there a significant amount of fraud that was exposed about Alzheimer's studies that put into question a lot of the ideas that people had about Alzheimer's?
00:11:49.000Wasn't that something that happened recently?
00:11:51.000Well, in the train of thought on Alzheimer's, you know, they're saying that it's due to the recessive genes.
00:12:00.000Well, if you look at the studies recently, 95% of the cases of Alzheimer's disease appear to be due to trauma and aging.
00:14:30.000And they were saying that it throws into question all of these previous assumptions and therapies that they were providing for Alzheimer's disease.
00:14:39.000And this person had made a significant amount of money.
00:16:31.000Well, you know that in – there are papers that have been written about reproducibility.
00:16:39.000Reproducibility is where a researcher does a paper, makes a claim about the results of his science, and then people look at that and they want to go and reproduce it to prove it.
00:16:50.000They found that 70% of them can't be reproduced.
00:16:53.000And when you looked at the actual scientists who did the original work, goes back and tries to reproduce it, 7% failure rate.
00:17:00.000So there are major publications that have talked about this reproducibility error.
00:17:05.000I mean, you can go on to Google Scholar or else into Google and look at reproducibility.
00:17:25.000A science investigation has now found that scores of his lab studies at UCSD and NIA are riddled with apparently falsified western blots.
00:17:34.000Images used to show the presence of proteins and micrographs of brain tissue.
00:17:39.000Numerous images seem to have been inappropriately reused within the...
00:17:45.000Within and across papers, sometimes published years apart in different journals, describing divergent experimental conditions.
00:17:52.000After science brought initial concerns about Maslia's work to their attention, the neuroscientists and forensic analysts specializing in scientific work who had previously worked with science produced a 300-page dossier revealing a steady stream of suspect images between 1997 the neuroscientists and forensic analysts specializing in scientific work who had previously worked with science produced a 300-page dossier Science did not pay them for their work.
00:18:17.000In our opinion, this pattern of anomalous data raises credible concern for research misconduct and calls into question a remarkably large body of scientific work.
00:18:27.000Okay, so it seems like the fact that he was reusing the same images, stating that they were new images, so he was stacking the deck in his favor.
00:20:03.000And, you know, that's one of the problems that, you know, RFK Jr. will be generating, is that as he finds that this science is 70%, you can't reproduce it, meaning that it's maybe not accurate.
00:21:09.000Also, in HIIT, in high-impact interval training and high-impact aerobics, what happens is you can increase a chemical in the brain called brain-derived neurotrophic factor, which is something that helps to improve neuron-to-neuron communication.
00:21:56.000His sister, Lisa McClellan, refuses to put him into a nursing home, into a hospice health.
00:22:02.000Takes him into the house in Chicago and for 29 years dealt with him.
00:22:06.000She develops an organization called Ring of Brotherhood where Muhammad Ali's niece and son, I think, are part of it.
00:22:14.000And they take care of boxers who are leaving the ring who have symptoms, punch drunk or what do they call it, precox or pugilistic, dementia pugilistic.
00:22:34.000And what we did was we set up a fund and we paid for his laboratory work and his initial assessment.
00:22:39.000And we found he was hormonally deficient.
00:22:42.000So what we ended up doing is putting him on to the hormone replacement and to One of the peptides that we use, which is called Enosil C-Max, which stimulates the brain to produce more brain-derived neurotrophic factor.
00:23:18.000And a boxing journalist, Oliver Fennell, came from London to Chicago and wrote a paper, which is called A Day in the Life of Gerald McClellan, and talks about what happened and where he's gone.
00:23:38.000I'm sure we talked about Rick Perry before the podcast started, so I'm sure you're aware of his...
00:23:44.000Push to legalize Ibogaine and start using Ibogaine for people with traumatic brain injuries.
00:23:51.000And he was talking about how it regenerates neural tissue and helps people significantly.
00:23:56.000And then on top of that, the addiction issue where people have addictions and Ibogaine is incredible for curing those, like literally curing them.
00:24:07.000In one with one session, it's in the 80% range.
00:24:10.000With two sessions, it's somewhere around...
00:24:13.000Ninety-seven percent, which is just crazy.
00:24:20.000In 2022, they had HB 1802, which is the first bill in any state where the state put money into a research project at Baylor for psilocybin.
00:24:48.000And let's see, Dr. Martin Polanco, who I'll cycle back to because the Ibogaine issue is what he helped to develop.
00:24:55.000So it was also Representative Alex Dominguez.
00:25:00.000Who helped to push it through to get the funding for it, and it's at Baylor with a doctor by the name of Lynette Avril, PhD.
00:25:09.000She's, I believe, the one who's in charge of it.
00:25:11.000But recently, you know, we have ayahuasca, we've got ibogaine, we've got LSD, we've got MMTA. The ibogaine seems to be really good for addiction.
00:25:23.000And for neuroregeneration, which is what you were talking about, to improvement in the neurofunction, downside is the cardiovascular.
00:25:31.000So it has to always be under a very strict, very close observation.
00:25:36.000And the doctor that I talked about, M.D., Martin Polanco.
00:25:42.000Who has clinics in Mexico, uses Ibogaine.
00:25:45.000And one of our new vets who came on board in one of the other states set up a 508 charitable organization.
00:25:58.000He imports Ibogaine from, I think it's Chile.
00:26:02.000And gets it here in the States and then sends it to Mexico to Dr. Polanco to do studies.
00:26:08.000So right now I believe he has the largest group of studies.
00:26:12.000And one of the things that really has to be looked at is the compassionate use of these products.
00:26:19.000You've got guys that are coming back from war who everything isn't working.
00:26:24.000So you have to start pulling the stops out and treat them.
00:26:28.000I mean, if you really want them to get better.
00:26:30.000Especially when there's real evidence that there's not just anecdotal evidence that they work, but there's actual scientific evidence of their effectiveness.
00:27:16.000It was about the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement.
00:27:19.000And so one of the ways to get at these people, they knew that one of the big shifts of culture, if you go back to...
00:27:26.000We talk about it ad nauseum on the podcast, but there's just a gigantic shift in culture from the 1950s to the 1960s.
00:27:33.000It's almost unimaginable the amount of change that takes place.
00:27:36.000And what you have to imagine as a person today is 2015. Now, you think in time, things accelerate even more rapidly and change is more exponential.
00:28:05.000There's not much difference in your life.
00:28:06.000If you go from 1959 to 1969, you have a totally different fucking world.
00:28:12.000You have a totally different world of culture, totally different world of movies, totally different world of music, totally different world of automobile design.
00:28:21.000You have a totally different world that I believe is inspired by psychedelic drugs.
00:29:25.000So you're basically saying the importance of psychedelics in expanding the visions that we have to advance our culture and society has been removed.
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00:33:01.000And then when you started doing blood work and explaining things to me and breaking down the nutritional deficiencies, like you need niacin, you need this, you need that, I started taking all that stuff.
00:33:11.000And it makes a significant difference.
00:34:49.000And then all the science started coming out saying how we needed B12 because our nutrition was devoid, because the soil not being rotated, devoid in the nutrients to feed the plants to give us our vitamins.
00:35:00.000I thought B12 was essentially from animals.
00:37:32.000It says, prior to modern science and agriculture, the whys and hows of soil health largely were mysterious.
00:37:37.000How soil additives functioned or the knowledge of which minerals were needed and when was the realm of the blind.
00:37:44.000Beyond animal manure, farmers added soil amendments by the barrel.
00:37:49.000Composts, human waste, fish, coal byproducts, chalk, or whatever unholy concoction was hawked by the latest charlatan to pull up in a wagon at Towns Edge and promise a yield bloom.
00:38:01.000Decade upon decade, the pitfalls of fertilization tormented growers until 1802 when German explorer and scientist Alexander von Humboldt strolled down a waterfront in Peru and felt his nose hairs curl in ammonia rebellion and an odor emanating from barge loads of yellow-brown the pitfalls of fertilization tormented growers until 1802 when German explorer and Von Humboldt was told the stinking bird droppings covered the nearby Chincha Islands in deep layers and were massively popular with Peruvian farmers.
00:38:39.000Curiosity building the nostril-burning von Humboldt took home a scoop of guano to Europe and turned the spigot on agricultural fountain of youth, i.e.
00:40:59.000So they fly over with drones and they scan the area.
00:41:03.000They probably could use satellites too, but they use drones and even airplanes.
00:41:07.000They scan the area and then they get these images that show these geometric patterns that exist below.
00:41:14.000And so they've unearthed a lot of these and so now they think there were millions of people living in the Amazon and that what probably happened was Europeans came over and gave them all smallpox.
00:41:26.000Just like they did with 90% of Native Americans.
00:41:29.000But what was done there was done in a place where they had made this environment with terra preta and just because of the lush rainforest, it rains constantly and vegetation grows so well that as soon as they were gone, within a couple hundred years, everything's consumed by the jungle.
00:41:46.000And then you lead thousands and thousands and thousands of years in the future.
00:41:52.000And that's what they think they're looking at when they're looking at these large sections of the Amazon that have these patterns and structures that indicate civilization.
00:42:29.000It just makes you wonder, how many of those exist out there, you know, in the Mexican jungles and in the Guatemalan jungles that we don't even know about?
00:43:02.000He's essentially working to save the brain forest and what he does is he goes down there and he hires these people that were loggers to have a new job and the new job is to protect the forest instead and they've saved like I don't know what the number is, but an incredible large number of acres they've saved this way.
00:43:22.000And they continue to do this, and they're trying to work with these people and try to stop them from just destroying the Amazon.
00:43:28.000I think Sting donated a large amount of money to the Brazilian Amazon.
00:43:32.000There's a lot of entertainers who have donated a lot of money to protect it.
00:43:37.000So my friend Paul, he runs into uncontacted tribes all the time.
00:44:08.000We get really good at drones to the point where you can have a bunch of drones that really do look like insects and fly them in there and film these folks.
00:48:09.000So it said, stop, scroll back, go back.
00:48:13.000So it said, here I'm a firm believer that most historians are wrong when they credit Christopher Columbus for corning the word Indian because he thought he was landing ships in India.
00:48:21.000By 1492, there was no country known as India.
00:48:24.000Instead, that country was called Hindustan.
00:48:27.000I think that it's closer to the truth that Spanish padre that sailed with Columbus was so impressed by the innocence of the natives, he observed that he called them los ninos indios.
00:48:37.000Meaning, the spelling may be wrong in the Spanish words, but the description by the padre means something like the children of God.
00:48:43.000After many years of uses, the word indios emerged, and to this day, the indigenous people of South and Central America are called indios.
00:48:51.000I'm told that as the word wound its way north, it evolved into Indian.
00:48:57.000Of course, some will say that there was a place in the East Indies in 1492, and Columbus may have thought he was headed for that region.
00:49:05.000So how and when did the effort to politicize the name start?
00:49:09.000Some of it started when Native Americans enrolled in some of the white colleges.
00:49:13.000I think they found the word Indian offensive and set about to remake it.
00:49:19.000That the word Indian was often used in a derogatory fashion such as drunken Indian or rotten Indian.
00:49:26.000Perhaps the white people would have found it more difficult to say drunken Native American.
00:49:36.000And finally, when some Indian journalists made it to the newsrooms of large and prestigious mainstream newspapers, they reacted to the word Indian as they did when they were in college.
00:49:46.000They went to their editors and tried to impress upon them the paper should no longer use the word Indian, but instead switch to Native American or Native.
00:49:56.000The problem even with Native American is Native for how long?
00:50:03.000Like, if you believe the bearing land mass theory, that they came across that way, that in a lot of Native Americans, and this was actually tested because of Mormons.
00:50:14.000So there was a wealthy Mormon who spent a bunch of money on DNA testing for Native Americans because he was sure that it was going to relieve, it was going to show that they were from the lost tribe of Israel.
00:51:55.000They're dealing with fucking grizzly bears and moose and shit.
00:51:59.000I'm sure you've seen this video of this guy who goes outside of his house in the morning and two gigantic moose are duking it out in his driveway.
00:58:33.000I'm not advocating for the eradication of grizzlies.
00:58:35.000I'm just saying that with our modern society, when they haven't existed in an ecosystem, to reintroduce that to the ecosystem, you're going to cause chaos.
00:59:56.000I shot an elk a couple years ago that was 11 years old and he had almost no teeth left.
01:00:00.000His teeth were ground down because, you know, they're just They don't live long, and part of it is because they can't grind food after a certain age.
01:00:45.000But it's dependent upon the diet of the animal.
01:00:48.000So, like, the people that hunt grizzly bears and they've eaten grizzly bears or brown bears, they say they taste so fishy, it's almost intolerable.
01:02:27.000New Jersey has an infestation of black bears.
01:02:29.000New Jersey, we played this video a hundred times with these giant bears that are duking it out in a beautiful suburb of far Rockaway, New Jersey.
01:02:38.000So it's like nice, normal, not like the woods, not like, you know, fucking...
01:05:40.000They do it in some communities with white-tailed deer, and the reason why they do it is because they're completely overpopulated, and oddly enough, this happens a lot in the suburbs.
01:05:50.000Like, there's places in the suburbs, yeah, where there's, like, people who bowhunt in the suburbs.
01:05:55.000Because, like, look, if you're bowhunting, your arrow doesn't go more than 100 yards, right?
01:06:00.000It's not like you have to worry about you shoot and someone a mile away gets hit by a bullet.
01:07:05.000There's been times where they had seasons in winter for elk in Montana.
01:07:10.000And the reason, it was a complete depopulation effort.
01:07:13.000So they had had, this is before the reintroduction of wolves.
01:07:17.000So the reintroduction of wolves, which is in the 1990s, has significantly impacted the elk population.
01:07:23.000And now it's actually more difficult to get a tag.
01:07:26.000But back then, they would have certain seasons that would have in the winter.
01:07:30.000So you'd be able to get these elk that were out there in the snow moving very slowly in the deep snow, and you could just kind of pick them off.
01:07:38.000And it was basically just a meat hunt, and they killed a lot of cows that way, cow elk.
01:07:44.000And it was just a way for people to get meat, and also they were trying to put a dent on the population because it wasn't sustainable.
01:07:51.000So they would have an elk herd of thousands of elk where it really should have been like 800 elk with the sustainability of the area.
01:08:19.000What was the need for reducing the elk population?
01:08:23.000Well, if you don't have a balanced ecosystem.
01:08:26.000If you don't have enough predators, and you have a large animal like an elk, like a bull elk is an 800-pound animal, and a mature cow elk is north of 300 pounds, 400 pounds.
01:08:38.000This is a lot of food, and they can decimate vegetation.
01:08:43.000There is a documentary that's kind of like...
01:08:47.000poo-pooed by people but interesting nonetheless it's how how wolves changed rivers and it's all about how the Yellowstone ecosystem changed because of their introduction to wolves and more songbirds came in because there was more vegetation because the introduction of wolves they killed off a lot of the elk the elk had been just like maybe overbalanced in the fact that like overrepresented they were eating too much vegetation yeah so it's all interesting but what you really want is things to happen
01:09:16.000And then when there's a problem, you know, really the best way to handle the problem if there's like an overabundance of these animals is to bring in hunters.
01:09:28.000The other solution would be to bring in predators.
01:09:30.000The problem with bringing in predators is if you have a predator like wolves that has been forever maligned because they go after livestock and they do target ranchers.
01:09:42.000There was an article I read today actually about these ranchers that were kind of optimistic about wolves being introduced into Colorado and now they vehemently oppose it because they've seen the impact.
01:09:53.000And one of the reasons why they saw the impact is because the...
01:09:56.000Governor of Colorado, in all his fucking infinite wisdom, he had a mandate to get these wolves introduced during a certain amount of time, and they didn't have the wolves, so they got wolves from Oregon that they had captured while they were preying on livestock.
01:10:11.000So these wolves were already accustomed to preying on livestock, and those are the wolves they reintroduced into Colorado.
01:10:18.000They reintroduced wolves that had already been They would have been naturalized to killing livestock.
01:10:42.000Because they kept bringing in animals, and then they'd bring in animals to kill the animals, and then they'd have an overpopulation of certain animals, so they'd bring in cats, and now they have an overpopulation of feral cats.
01:12:05.000You get people that have no experience with bears, don't encounter bears, don't have to worry about bears, and they say, yeah, let's not ban them anymore.
01:12:12.000Now you got bears breaking into people's houses, and there's much more of them than ever before, and people are freaked out.
01:14:33.000You'd be amazed at how much a bear can smell.
01:14:36.000There was a video where my friend was in, I think they were in Montana, maybe Idaho, and a bear was 700 yards away plus, and the wind hit the back of his neck and the bear started running.
01:14:54.000And he's like, did that fucking bear wind us?
01:14:57.000Like, the bear caught their smell from 700 yards away.
01:18:25.000As the most dangerous bird in the world, owing to the fact that it can seriously injure or kill a human or a dog in an instant with its deadly claws.
01:25:00.000So speaking of which, since we're talking about ridiculous shit and you are a doctor, I wanted to bring this up to you because Jamie and I were exchanging text messages yesterday about these mummies that they found in Peru that have three fingers.
01:25:17.000Yeah, well, they don't know what they are, but they have three fingers, and not three fingers because they cut the fingers off.
01:25:23.000They actually, their structure genetically has three fingers.
01:25:26.000And their cranial capacity, they have a large head, which a lot of times they think was due to, you know, they would form their head and like...
01:25:36.000They press boards to make their heads stretch out, which they definitely did in some tribes.
01:26:58.000It says the body is covered with diatomaceous earth, a type of white powder made from the sediment of fossilized algae found in the bodies of water.
01:27:08.000The only possible explanation for the unusually straight fingerprints could possibly have something to do with the way her skin was preserved, he said.
01:29:13.000It says the humanoid three-fingered alien mummies have straight fingerprints that do not match those of humans, according to an attorney who reviewed one of the controversial specimens.
01:29:30.000So Joshua McDowell, a former Colorado prosecutor and current defense attorney, examined one of the tiny strange bodies named Maria with three independent forensic medical examiners from the United States.
01:30:20.000I know, but I never saw it look like this.
01:30:22.000What I saw were those other ones that I think have been proven, I might be wrong, but I think at least allegedly had been proven to not be real.
01:30:30.000And that the person who was exposing those, those little tiny ones that were like laying down straight, that guy had a history of doing some deceptive stuff, allegedly.
01:31:20.000That journalist that unveiled the bodies and the guy who exposed the bodies, the guy who exposed the bodies I think was the one, the guy who came up with it.
01:31:31.000I was trying to figure out how, so there's an issue of them being found in Peru and taken to Mexico.
01:32:23.000They found no evidence of any assembly or manipulation of the skulls, but other scientists have panned the discovery as an elaborate stunt.
01:32:31.000Mao-San, 70, who touted the purported extraterrestrials as the most important thing that has happened to humanity, has denied any wrongdoing.
01:34:00.000It says, the specimens are not a part of our evolutionary history of Earth.
01:34:05.000The university has since distanced itself from Maussan, claiming its scientists took no part in the research and never came in contact with the full corpses.
01:34:13.000In no case do we make conclusions about the origin of these samples.
01:34:17.000The university's National Laboratory of Mass Spectrometry with Accelerator said in a statement.
01:34:23.000"The presence of carbon-14 allegedly detected in the specimens proved the samples were related to brain and skin tissues from different mummies who died at different times." What does that mean?
01:34:39.000The presence of carbon-14 allegedly detected in the specimens proved that the samples were related to brain and skin tissue from different mummies who died at different times.
01:35:16.000U.S. Navy pilot Ryan Graves, who attended the hearing to share his personal experience with alleged UFO sightings, later slammed Mao Zedong's presentation as a stunt.
01:35:25.000He said yesterday's demonstration was a huge step backwards for this issue.
01:35:29.000Graves wrote on X, formerly Twitter, I am deeply disappointed by this unsubstantiated stunt.
01:35:34.000Well, he's a very legitimate guy, Ryan Graves is, and very intelligent.
01:35:38.000And if he's saying it's a stunt, now I'm super skeptical.
01:35:51.000In 2017, he participated in a TV documentary about other specimens recovered near Peru's Nazca lines, which experts have said to have been concocted out of modified mummies.
01:36:26.000That one looks more like the way something you'd find dead.
01:36:31.000Even the way its legs are rotted away, it doesn't look fake.
01:36:36.000That one video we watched, or you sent me, It was getting more towards, like, they could have been found in a burial-type site that other groups used similar things.
01:36:50.000But the fact that they did an x-ray and they show the actual fingers and toes, it looks just like real fingers and real toes with actual bones.
01:37:20.000It's like a genetic mutation that exists, and it's thought to be like a prized thing.
01:37:25.000And these people have, like, two toes, and their feet branch off like this.
01:37:29.000And there's a bunch of people in this village that have these feet that are like this I forget what they call them like bird feet or I forget how they describe them.
01:37:37.000Yeah, these are the folks So now, if you found these guys, and there's not just one of them...
01:37:44.000Substantial minority of vedoma have a condition known as...
01:37:52.000Ectodactyly, which means the middle three toes are absent and the two outer ones are turned in, resulting in the tribe being known as the two-toed or ostrich-footed tribe.
01:38:00.000So go to images and see what that looks like.
01:38:04.000Really wild, because there's like a bunch of them hanging out together.
01:38:42.000So how do you account for the fact that there are multiple – from the Assyrians to the Egyptians to the Aztecs, Toltecs, Mayans, where they have on their structures, they have imagery of flying where they have on their structures, they have imagery of flying saucers, helicopters, alien – there is a couple with the – they look How do you account for that?
01:39:07.000I think the helicopter one I think is a fraud.
01:40:22.000We know that some planets are very old and some planets are much younger and we know that some planets are much closer to the Sun and some planets live in a very hospitable environment.
01:40:31.000We know that some planets like ours are essentially in a shooting gallery because there's 900,000 near-Earth objects or more that are flying around, slamming into things.
01:40:42.000And if it wasn't for Jupiter, we'd be fucked.
01:40:44.000If it wasn't for Jupiter's enormous gravity and mass pulling everything into it, that's...
01:44:57.000Well, it says the videographer behind the new footage is unknown in no small measure due to the thorny legal and ethical dimensions of handling these allegedly historical and culturally priceless ancient remains.
01:45:16.000Also been granted the tape, told DailyMail.com.
01:45:20.000They call them Jaqueros, who has long been involved in the promotion of these Nazca mummies, was convicted of assault on public monuments for taking artifacts in 2022. So if you take these artifacts, they go after you.
01:45:34.000The man received a four-year suspended sentence, was fined about 20,000 Peruvian souls, just 5,190 U.S. dollars, according to Reuters.
01:45:43.000A clear example of the high-risk, extra-legal measures some have taken to seek either truth or profit from these aliens.
01:46:01.000He's taken the Peruvian government to court, hoping to negotiate with Peru, as he put it, to be allowed to export the samples to be done in America.
01:46:08.000The lawsuit is already in for $300 million.
01:46:12.000Explained he's pursuing monetary damages to repair his enterprise's damaged reputation, but intends to spend the cash on a museum for the mummies.
01:46:25.000And Dr. McDowell himself has also recently pled with Peru's government in an open letter published in one of the country's top newspapers asking for official permission to study these specimens at top flight scientific facilities in the U.S. Well, I like that.
01:46:39.000I like that at least he's trying to get them, if it's true, that he's trying to get them studied.
01:46:44.000But you imagine if you were one doctor who did find these things, you would receive a tremendous amount of skepticism and assholes like me, like making fun of them.
01:49:07.000The hinge in the joint of the elbow looks exactly like how a human's is, except it's one bone instead of two, which is, let's be honest, probably a better design.
01:49:16.000You know, the two bones, that little one.
01:49:52.000I think the possibility that something could be so advanced that all of our ideas of how it got here and how long it's been here are just silly.
01:50:02.000I think we might be just like these people in the Amazon that my friend Paul Rosely is running into.
01:50:07.000They don't know that he goes on the Joe Rogan experience and reaches 15 million people.
01:50:17.000And, you know, he's out there in the Amazon.
01:50:20.000And, you know, and then he takes a picture.
01:50:24.000Their experience with him is probably kind of similar to our experience, but except much more exaggerated, with aliens.
01:50:31.000If you came into contact with something that's a million years more advanced than us, what would that contact be like?
01:50:39.000Are we so limited in our understanding of...
01:50:44.000How you move through the universe that we assume that everything has to use rockets and everything has to burn fuel and shoot things and to defy gravity by, you know, by pushing against it.
01:52:31.000See, that would be the thing to do, is the carbon data to find out whether or not if it's that old, then it should be petrified, and therefore it shouldn't look like that.
01:53:02.000So religiously, I mean, look at from a religious standpoint, what's the impact of acknowledging that there are other species in extraterrestrials?
01:53:13.000What's the impact on religion here in the United States or here in the world?
01:53:17.000Depends on which religion you're talking about, right?
01:54:43.000If you're going to be logical and be a believer in God, that's the way to do it, right?
01:54:49.000To say, look, if God exists, we just might be too limited in our understanding of the world to think that we think that God just made us and this is it.
01:54:59.000But it might be God has made life all throughout the universe.
01:59:18.000We're the ones that are the most clever.
01:59:19.000It's the calvarium, the size of the skull as it got bigger.
01:59:22.000But the thing is, these ones that they found recently, see if you can find that article, the large-headed people that they found recently, another totally new branch.
01:59:30.000They're large-headed, but the same height as...
01:59:42.000The Enigmatic group once lived alongside Homo sapiens in Eastern Asia.
01:59:46.000According to Science Alert, fossilized remains unearthed from sediment layers dated over 200,000 years ago revealed individuals with disproportionately large cranial volumes.
01:59:57.000So click on that where they have images.
02:02:36.000But while I was experiencing that dream, I remember being aware that it was a dream eventually, but while it was all going down, I was like, this is a crazy dream.
02:02:48.000Like, thinking, like, this is so vivid and so realistic.
02:02:52.000If you live in a dream for the rest of your life, you are still alive and you are still experiencing things.
02:02:59.000You're just experiencing things in a non-physical way, the way we interact with reality today.
02:03:05.000So you and I are interacting with reality with a couple glasses of whiskey, a cigar, we have a wooden table, we're talking into microphones.
02:03:12.000But the reality that you interact with in dreams is...
02:03:19.000It's existing, you're experiencing it, but it's in some other realm.
02:03:23.000It's some realm of the mind and some realm of consciousness.
02:03:27.000And maybe what you're doing is accessing a dimension of possibilities that is entirely created by consciousness.
02:03:35.000And maybe there's multiple layers to that and things can come from other places to us that way.
02:03:44.000It's always been interesting to me that these people that have these abduction experiences, it seems like the vast majority, and I've read Abducted, which is John Mack's book, and I'm aware of the Betty and Barney Hill story, and this is Travis Walton, the guy who got abducted in Arizona.
02:04:21.000So these people all have very compelling stories.
02:04:25.000Now, the difference between Travis Walton's story and the other stories is people saw Travis Walton go up to that UFO. Travis Walton disappeared for five days.
02:04:35.000Travis Walton came back from being in the woods for five days with this crazy story.
02:04:40.000And the other people, most of them, it happens at night, right?
02:05:24.000And if that is something that can be traversed, is that something that someone can enter into?
02:05:32.000Is it possible that other intelligence that's different than ours, that's more advanced than ours, that lives in a different dimension than ours, has access to the mind in these exchanges?
02:05:47.000I'm not even dismissing physical contact, but I'm just saying that many of these cases where people claim to have been abducted happen at night.
02:05:59.000I think the realm of consciousness is, I think we're very arrogant in our belief that we understand what's going on with how we interface with reality.
02:06:25.000In the subconscious space, you know, the question is, is that when the extraterrestrials invades our space, our psychiatric space, and therefore gives to us in our brain the perception of everything that we perceive, meaning the alien, the...
02:07:13.000A lot of these people are experiencing these things in the woods at night.
02:07:16.000Maybe there's a level of consciousness you reach under those circumstances where you interact with things that you ordinarily cannot interact with.
02:07:24.000And maybe that's why there's a lack of physical evidence in our dimension.
02:07:30.000Like, the physical evidence in our dimension is very limited.
02:07:33.000One thing that's compelling, and maybe the only thing that's compelling, is dermal ridges that they find on these footprints.
02:07:39.000So they find these footprints in muck, like where they step in mud and muck and stuff, and they leave behind not just footprints, but footprints with dermal ridges like fingerprints, which is very difficult to fake, especially in like the 1970s and the 1980s where some of these things were acquired.
02:07:56.000So it's like, I don't know what we're dealing with, but there's enough people that talk about that experience and it makes you...
02:08:03.000I don't believe, but I don't disbelieve.
02:08:08.000Bigfoot being an actual large ape that lives undisturbed in the Pacific Northwest, I'm very skeptical because there's too many hunters now and too many people with cameras and too many camera traps.
02:08:20.000There's too many cell phone cameras where trail cameras snap things that are going by.
02:09:27.000I do think there's a lot of bullshit artists, too, though.
02:09:30.000I've talked to a lot of bullshit artists.
02:09:31.000Bigfoot people that are bullshit artists.
02:09:32.000The balance that obviously you're talking about is the fact that there are so many people who are trying to present the factual evidence that it exists that causes you to doubt it.
02:09:47.000So, you know, I believe that there's a possibility of all the things that we talked about from Bigfoot to aliens and so forth.
02:09:56.000But there's a tempered perception of it as being reality, that it might be there, but we would rather deny it as opposed to accept it.
02:10:07.000Because what happens if you accept it as 100% truth?
02:13:31.000There's video of things moving underwater at very high rates of speed.
02:13:38.000Some of the whistleblowers, and again, how much that's real, but some of the whistleblowers from the government have claimed that they have detected things underwater that are enormous, like the size of a football field, and they're moving 500 knots underwater with no visible means of propulsion.
02:14:00.000So those videos that have come out recently of the Navy aviators who have chased UFOs that have gone into the water and they've seen these large reflections under the water of huge spaceships and so forth.
02:17:37.000I don't think it goes above the water.
02:17:39.000I think it only goes underwater, but it looks like a spaceship.
02:17:43.000With the rate of acceleration and the ability to change direction, those are things that are in the reality, in the real world, the physics behind it.
02:17:55.000As you said, everyone, if it went in that rate of ascent or descent and movement, it would kill everybody inside.
02:18:26.000If we have that technology, then it explains it all.
02:18:29.000But the question is, as long as we don't acknowledge the fact that we're at that level of technology, then you have to account for, where's it coming from?
02:19:23.000I've seen articles where it talks about cities, communities underneath the ocean in the San Andreas, not San Andreas Fault, what is that fault line called?
02:22:01.000And if we're on a path, a predictable path of evolution that almost all intelligent life goes on, there's probably going to be pitfalls that they could help us navigate.
02:22:47.000How would we handle it if all of a sudden chimpanzees...
02:22:50.000Not all of a sudden, but hundreds of thousands of years now.
02:22:53.000What would our future society do if, in the future, chimpanzees start developing weapons and buildings and planes and doing all the shit that we do when we're far more advanced than that then?
02:23:20.000It would be fucking real interesting to see how human beings would handle that.
02:23:25.000You know, like what would we do a million years from now if hominids kept advancing down an evolutionary plane and they eventually got to a place where they were like ancient humans?
02:23:53.000Well, I mean, it is interesting because, like, what's different between us and any other people that have ever lived is that we've figured out a way to optimize your health in a very substantial way.
02:24:04.000In the past, someone who was my age, I'm 57. Someone who was my age, your body's probably broken.
02:25:15.000Important because of, as I said about the brain-derived neurotrophic factor, you can increase it to improve brain.
02:25:21.000This guy out of USC, Caleb Finch, who talked about, he believed that the reason for why we age and we die is because we lose our hormones in our brain.
02:25:53.000And I think the reason why I'm at 72 with the level of clarity and functionality, aside from my back, is the fact that I've always, 30 years, I've been a hormone replacement, nutraceuticals, getting in good vitamins, so forth, because our body loses it over the course of time.
02:33:02.000And I think the good news is that the new government is emphasizing privacy and freedom of speech.
02:33:09.000And the other government was emphasizing cracking down on what they called misinformation and disinformation and more control of what you say and do and where you go.
02:33:18.000And the way to get more control is more invasive technology.
02:33:20.000And that's what scares the shit out of me.
02:36:03.000This is Biohack Yourself, and I'll give a minute on it.
02:36:06.000A family called Lolly Group, and if you were in Washington for the inauguration, the Biohack Group, which is the Lolly Group, which is Anthony and Teresa Lolly, they're the ones who put together Biohack Yourself, which has been picked up by Robert.
02:36:25.000F. Kennedy Jr. as being their representative for media because he trusts them because all they want to do is get the science out there that's real, not the bullshit that's been thrown at us.
02:36:37.000So they've been pulled in, and there were 32 of us, quote, experts is what they call us, who participated in this program.
02:36:45.000So what they're doing is really cool because it's presenting the science behind what...
02:36:53.000You've already experienced with us and what I continue to promote for brain health, for well-being, and longevity, anti-aging.