Joe Rogan is a stand-up comic, actor, comedian, writer, podcaster, and podcaster. In this episode, he talks about how to deal with anxiety, depression, and how to be grateful for what you have.
00:00:00.000The Joe Rogan experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day Rock horse This thing is no one's happy with just being like a little successful You get a little successful and then they want to get more Is that everyone though?
00:00:53.000I was opening for Landau, and we would go out and just talk to the people after the show, and they were like, oh my gosh, I love Walken's Welcome, I love Dumpster Fire, and it was such a good reminder that...
00:01:06.000You get, like, chasing numbers, and it was like, oh, no, these are not just numbers.
00:01:46.000It's really important to be thankful for what you have.
00:01:49.000Yeah, and it was one of the key things in getting sober.
00:01:54.000I think when I've dealt with anxiety, depression, other things in my life, gratitude is a powerful mechanism for shifting your Your perspective because you can get into that feeling of like not being enough, not having enough, not...
00:02:24.000No, I mean, this, when I was dating this very wealthy guy who is, like, probably half of a billionaire, you know, like 500 millionaire, and we were in Saint-Tropez, and he felt poor.
00:02:40.000I remember being, I remember it so vividly.
00:02:43.000I was in the shower, and he loved me because I was, like, this, like, poor backpacker that was, like...
00:03:05.000And you don't have people taking the piss out of you, and so I would make fun of him for his boring stories about his mattresses, that people would sit there...
00:03:12.000I'm like, why are you guys listening to this guy talk about a mattress for an hour?
00:03:17.000He was, I was in the shower and he was talking about how he and his friends got together and he's like, you know, we sat around and we were talking and there's a certain level at which you can be happy no matter what.
00:03:31.000And I thought I had been rubbing off on him.
00:03:34.000Like, oh, my yogi spirituality is rubbing off on him.
00:04:26.000Number two is you have to have friends.
00:04:27.000If you're just like the man and everybody's kissing your ass and you're the head of this giant business and you live in a bubble, you're not happy.
00:05:55.000And you don't know it because their public face is that they're normal.
00:06:00.000You know, their public face when they're getting interviewed, they know how to, like, turn it on for five minutes, but then when you're around them all day, you know, they're fucking crazy people.
00:06:08.000Which is why they're successful in the first place, which is really weird.
00:06:11.000It's like, what got you the dance is...
00:08:34.000You have the ability to preserve your life.
00:08:37.000My fear was always that I'd be in a situation, like in the movies, where somebody's wrestling with someone and then they kick the gun over and I'm the girl standing there and I'm like...
00:08:46.000What are these buttons and switches and the magazine pops out?
00:08:51.000out like fuck and you pull the trigger but he's not around and then there is and I accidentally shoot the hero Oh, that happens.
00:09:23.000But podcasting for sure because while there's a lot of people that aren't performers that are in podcasting, I think they're even more mentally ill because those are the people that are like deep in the fucking social media comments all day and seeing people shit on them and they're out of their fucking minds.
00:09:37.000There's a bunch of them that are just off the road.
00:09:41.000They fight all day with each other, and you see them over the years get progressively more and more insane and more and more aggressive to each other.
00:12:34.000Like, you should care about your own credibility at some point, but people get rewarded for being shameless so that you can just keep going.
00:12:42.000The Politico thing is weird because, yes, a lot of the stuff that's going out right now on all of these, like, deep dives that people are doing, they're viral, they're mostly, many of them are fake, but also, the...
00:13:53.000This is why when they're saying, oh, it's like...
00:13:56.000You can sense that there's been a misappropriation of our money, of taxpayer dollars.
00:14:02.000You know there's fraud and Medicare and Medicaid.
00:14:06.000The American people have sensed this and they feel like there's corruption, but I think they've just hopelessly kind of surrendered because I'm a middle-class mom who works, who has a kid, who, like...
00:14:48.000Because it's not just the money being spent.
00:14:49.000It's what it's being spent for and what's going on, which is an enormous propaganda machine.
00:14:56.000Like, a big part of the whole left-wing narrative that has, like, overlaid our country over the last...
00:15:03.000Whatever eight years ten years is all propaganda funded by our own government This is why Trump won the election people don't really believe in these things the amount of people that think that transgender Biological males should be competing against your daughter in sports is so fucking small, but yet our own government was propping it up.
00:17:32.000The fucking audacity to accuse you who just has people you like on your podcast to suddenly be state media when you literally have had state media working with the state in conjunction for...
00:18:54.000There is no ifs, ands, or buts about it when it comes to this argument.
00:18:58.000The Biden administration was fucking terrifying for free speech.
00:19:02.000They were actively attacking people that were posting truth on social media and attacking them and trying to get their posts removed, including...
00:19:14.000The guy who was the one who was quoted in this fucking book about Kamala Harris, saying that we made it difficult for her to come on the show, and they told an untrue story about having a bunch of people come down here and run through the set like they were ready to do it.
00:20:12.000And I was like, you know, when we're talking in our weird, like, using that crazy YouTube language you have to use, like, unalived, and you're saying, like, the jib-jab or whatever, like, to get around, that's coming from one side.
00:20:32.000My fear is if the other side was in power and they were influenced by the same amount of money from these companies, they might be doing it too.
00:20:38.000So if the right was in control of all the social media companies, are we so naive that we think that they wouldn't be co-opted by giant corporations and they would want to censor them too?
00:20:49.000What happened was it was all the left.
00:20:52.000So the tech people who are, you know, generally they go to universities and they get involved in a Electronics and technology.
00:20:59.000These people are generally left-leaning, right?
00:21:02.000And if they're doing it in San Francisco, well, the whole culture is left-leaning.
00:21:51.000We need, like, a realist, someone who's, like, conservative fiscally and understands foreign policy and how to deal with- Fucking dictators and shit?
00:22:00.000But also someone who's like, I don't give a fuck who you love.
00:22:11.000Yeah, I think the argument, though, I mean, as you've seen with some of these articles that are like, the right-wing ecosystem that red-pilled all these men, the argument is that the internet is right-wing.
00:22:22.000And that this is why Trump won, is because all of these influencers are red-pilling people.
00:22:29.000It's an easy way to not take any responsibility for how you've pushed men away from your party, how you've failed to...
00:22:38.000Get moderates in any sense of the way.
00:22:41.000Even just yesterday you had the Trump photo op with him signing the rights for women to compete against just women.
00:23:02.000There was a guy who went on, it was MSNBC or CNN, I forget what it was, but he was essentially talking about Me and Theo Vaughn and all these other podcasts like Flagrant, Andrew Schultz, as if this is this massive right-wing network that's heavily funded and has been built up over years and we don't have anything like that.
00:26:05.000Well, also, they have to look at it in terms of, like, what Elon is doing, right?
00:26:09.000So if Elon has aligned himself clearly in a huge way with the right and now is running Doge, right, the Department of Government Efficiency, and also has X, that he's turning X into a platform that rivals not just social media platforms, but video platforms like YouTube.
00:26:27.000Like, they get insane amounts of videos, of views, rather, on videos that are on X. And then you can get paid.
00:28:33.000It has access to phones in a way that you can't even imagine.
00:28:37.000Because if we know about Pegasus, and then we know about Pegasus 2. Gavin DeBecker, who's a security expert, explained to me these things and explained to me how they work.
00:28:48.000And the exploit of Pegasus 1 was you would have to click on a link.
00:28:51.000Pegasus 2, they just need your phone number.
00:29:43.000My friend Suzanne, she was doing, Suzanne Santo, talented, amazing musician.
00:29:48.000She was doing this Facebook thing and it was a podcast and they had you know Should do it like over zoom or whatever and the guy said you're not doing it right Can I can I have access to your account and I'll just set it up for you?
00:30:04.000Just sign this and he sent her this message so she could hand over access so he could set up and then immediately went dark stole her account gone Yeah, like that Did she get it back?
00:32:24.000Where you're gonna put on a headset, it's gonna lock into your mind, you're gonna be able to see things that aren't there, you're gonna be able to feel things that aren't there.
00:32:49.000You see maps, you can play games, you see information, you can take a photo of a person that's in front of you and immediately know who they are and get a Google search on them.
00:33:00.000They've already done that with the metaglasses.
00:33:01.000There was a guy from Harvard, wasn't it?
00:33:03.000A student from Harvard that set it up.
00:33:05.000So all he had to do was go outside, look at someone with the metaglasses, take a photo, and it would show all the different information on them, where they lived.
00:33:14.000Like, if your face is out there and they can catch it, if they know that, like, oh, you were on a website that said this about you, and then, bam.
00:33:22.000Or you're on LinkedIn, or you're on one of those things.
00:34:14.000We all knew that privacy, as social media gets deeper and deeper into our lives, as technology gets more and more pervasive, as it gets more and more powerful.
00:34:24.000The thing that goes away is the boundaries between people and information, right?
00:34:29.000And your privacy is essentially just information that's only yours.
00:34:33.000I think that's going to be a thing of the human past.
00:35:58.000It's kind of like how they change math to core math.
00:36:01.000And they found out that all of these things are horrible and actually literacy and people are like math.
00:36:09.000All of this stuff is like falling off a cliff.
00:36:11.000And they're trying to walk back all these weird ways.
00:36:14.000I mean, you have kids and they learn that weird way of doing math where you're like, what is this weird math you're learning where it's just like, it's crazy.
00:39:07.000If it's constantly getting improved upon and if it needs these monkeys with their fucking keyboards to constantly juice it up to the point where it becomes unstoppable, why would it tell us?
00:40:28.000Someone said that that's like if some small town in Finland was getting, you know, 20% of arms that were being made on the border of Russia.
00:40:37.000You're like, it's not going to this town.
00:43:06.000And there was like a theologian and a guy who was a scientist, and they were all discussing what is a soul.
00:43:13.000And one guy said, well, who's to say that this isn't just the human soul jumping elements so that it can survive, like going from carbon...
00:44:33.000That's why death is so scary and war is so scary and disease is so scary.
00:44:37.000Other than the depressed suicidal people, but yeah.
00:44:40.000They'd want to be happy if they could.
00:44:43.000But this also transfers onto the things that we create.
00:44:47.000And so we create them with this understanding of how we operate and it's a better version of us But also has those instincts of survival the real scary thing is does it also have the instincts of success?
00:45:01.000Does it also have the instincts of acquiring resources and power because that that's where it gets real weird Well D as someone with kids, how do you feel like?
00:45:23.000I don't know if I should be training my kid to be an astrophysicist so she can go to Mars, or if I should be teaching her how to forage for food because the grid's gone down.
00:45:37.000And she's running from drones, Chinese drones in the woods.
00:46:06.000If you just go back over human history...
00:46:09.000If you look at the graph of how things get better, but it definitely is.
00:46:13.000If you go back to, like, the year zero, what it was like right when Jesus was hanging around, it was hell.
00:46:21.000I remember vividly being in Egypt on a tour and looking at these hieroglyphics, and it was basically a hieroglyphic of all of the scalpels and everything.
00:46:33.000It almost was a picture image of what we use today.
00:46:36.000And I said what happened to this society?
00:47:04.000So the reality of humans is that most likely what has happened has not been this linear progression from caveman to human, to modern human.
00:47:16.000Most likely we got real sophisticated somewhere around 20,000 years ago.
00:47:21.000And that's when they built the pyramids after that.
00:47:23.000And there's a lot of Gobekli Tepe, all these structures.
00:47:27.000Something super sophisticated to the point where we don't even understand how they built it today.
00:47:31.000That's pretty wild when you're dealing with something that even the conventional dating of the Great Pyramid is 5,000 or 4,500 years ago.
00:47:38.000Just even that dating is so nuts that they were able to do that back then.
00:48:23.000And it probably wiped out a giant chunk of civilization, fucked up everything, changed the ice caps, flooded areas, destroyed civilizations, very little evidence left behind.
00:48:41.000And that's why it takes so long for civilization to reemerge.
00:48:44.000So if you want to take, if you think Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock and those guys are correct, and also the people that are actually studying comet impacts, which are the Younger Dryas Impact Theory, that's real legit scientists who are looking at actual data from core samples.
00:50:57.000Probably we wouldn't be as barbaric as we were because of these natural disasters, which forced only the most savage and ruthless people to survive.
00:51:06.000And then it takes years and years of agriculture for people to calm the fuck down.
00:51:10.000And then eventually, and still to this day, we're still engaging in war.
00:51:14.000In 2025, we're still blowing up apartment buildings and fucking people up and gunning people down.
00:51:50.000Yeah, there's a lot of genes in us that I think are memories.
00:51:56.000I think there's like specific things that are in us that tell, okay, like the stories of like moms having their babies trapped under something and then all of a sudden they can lift up something that's insanely strong, like insanely heavy.
00:52:10.000Well, there's probably a part of you that in the past had to deal with some wild shit and had to hit levels of like super physiological strength and And mental strength to tolerate what you're about to have to do.
00:52:24.000You're going to have to fucking kill somebody with a spear.
00:52:28.000There's real shit that happened that's in our memory.
00:52:31.000I think about that about Texas women because I've been to a lot of these ranches.
00:52:35.000My friends have places and they're remote.
00:52:38.000It's like I think about the women who had to stay behind on the ranch while their husbands were out with the cattle or whatever for weeks at a time.
00:52:48.000Yeah, and you see a Comanche on the hill with a horse.
00:54:03.000I'm obsessed with all the westward expansion.
00:54:07.000I'll see people outside of America commenting on America, because you can on X now, and they'll be over in their country.
00:54:15.000Come to America and see how big it is, and then imagine that people had to cross this country, fight bears with their hands, and build a nation.
00:54:43.000And you're on a boat for two months just trying to not get scurvy, making your way to America, and then you hop off and you see a bunch of brown people with deerskin loincloths on.
00:54:53.000You're like, what the fuck is this place?
00:54:54.000And now you're just like fighting for your life.
00:54:57.000Yeah, and we can't even, we can't even like go to...
00:55:03.000A restaurant without our GPS map telling us where to go now.
00:55:08.000Yeah, I don't know how to get five minutes from my house.
00:58:27.000I was only in New York for three years.
00:58:29.000Like really, I went back and forth for a little while, but then I kept an apartment in New York for like the first, I guess the first year.
00:58:41.000But when I first moved there, I'm like, okay, everybody says that Harlem is scary.
00:58:45.000Let me just go see what it looks like.
00:58:46.000So I drove my little fucking Honda through Harlem.
00:58:50.000I just wanted, I wanted to go through, and I was like, what am I doing?
00:58:53.000Like, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
00:58:55.000Like people were just like walking in the middle of the street.
00:58:59.000there was abandoned cars it was fucking crazy and then they gentrified the whole thing and I don't know which one's better like now when you go there it's all just neon lights and bad food yeah and back then it was Yeah.
01:00:43.000Well, I think people are very furious right now.
01:00:45.000I think if it is going to be change, it's going to have to happen while people still have the memory of this thing.
01:00:51.000Because the more time goes on, the more the cultists can convince other cult members that they're on the right track and these are the kind, compassionate people and this is the way to do it.
01:01:29.000There's a giant percentage of those people that live there that are connected to the entertainment business.
01:01:34.000And if you're connected to the entertainment business, at the very top of the business, it's people auditioning for things.
01:01:41.000And you have to get liked to get the thing.
01:01:44.000So you get these immensely insecure people that are usually narcissists, and then they mold their personality to adapt to this environment that will reward them for a certain political ideology.
01:01:55.000And so that's the top of the fucking pyramid.
01:01:58.000And everything emanates down from that.
01:02:01.000If you want to be cool with Ryan Reynolds, you have to talk like a Democrat at the parties.
01:02:17.000And if you don't say these things, you don't get to be a part of the group.
01:02:20.000And so there's this intense pressure to conform to this singular ideology that's been running things.
01:02:27.000things it's not a battle back and forth between two of like 50 50 opposing viewpoints it's like 90 10 right even do you think even though like the crew because when i would be on that's the 10 yeah yeah that's the 10 the crew is the people they're hard-working normal blue-collar people yeah yeah they're normal yeah there's a lot of the crew people were very republican You know, they all live in fucking Santa Clarita or something like that.
01:03:02.000This was the big disconnect that I... So if you were somebody who is going to, like, fix the Democratic Party, which seems to be imploding, what would you tell them to do?
01:04:29.000You know, and maybe that coffin does hand out sandwiches in Guatemala occasionally.
01:04:33.000But for the most part, what they're doing is they're controlling the entire federal government and they're controlling the mindset, the zeitgeist of the population.
01:04:42.000And they're funding all these people that go along with this wacky shit.
01:04:48.000They're openly attacking and trying to censor people who go against it.
01:04:53.000And they're spending your tax dollars to do so.
01:04:56.000Your tax dollars get funneled to NG... Yeah, usually, but they did become so disconnected from the average person that my advice would be to, you know, they say like, oh, normies did, this is one of the things I'm hearing online, like normies didn't vote for this, what Elon's doing with those six, like, I need a movie about what these kids are doing, by the way.
01:05:47.000So anybody that's not commenting on the, hey, you know what?
01:05:49.000They are finding a lot of unbelievable waste and corruption.
01:05:53.000But also, he shouldn't be able to do that.
01:05:55.000Like, they're not even saying he's finding insane waste and corruption.
01:06:00.000And he's finding this circular loop of funding.
01:06:03.000And he's finding this manipulation of public perception on a wide variety of issues, including COVID, vaccines, the border, all these different things.
01:06:13.000They were actively involved in mindfucking the entire country.
01:06:18.000And no one's addressing that from the left.
01:06:20.000So they're losing more and more credibility.
01:06:23.000So all they can cling to is he has access to people's social security numbers and private information.
01:07:16.000Because like you said, it is an ideology, so it's harder to kind of change the minds of people who have been indoctrinated with this in colleges and schools, but get it out of the institutions.
01:07:27.000Saying that there should be male or female on a passport is not, like, that shouldn't be something that's fucking mind-blowing.
01:07:37.000Did you see that DNC meeting where they were talking about gender rules?
01:08:42.000Also, if you don't want the male vote, that's the guy.
01:08:46.000When that guy has his arm up in the air, his arm literally looks like that ancient guru that keeps his one arm in the air for like 80 years and his arm is shriveled up into the stick.
01:10:07.000And that young person will have to be a sensible person who actually is like a real progressive who recognizes that there's a lot of fucking actual corruption and real problems with the system.
01:10:17.000And then there could be a lot more social programs that would help people that would make the whole world a better place.
01:11:07.000It's unquestionably, without a doubt, they are being taught this.
01:11:10.000Because so much of DEI and all the stuff that they're dismantling is basically an entire industry that was created for all of these people with these useless degrees and nonsense education to have a job.
01:11:22.000And they got all the way to Harvard, the top of Harvard.
01:11:34.000I think this election, too, I was like, I don't know, this could go badly when I put out that, like, you know, like, I put out that I was voting.
01:11:42.000I'm like, well, like, I could, whatever.
01:12:42.000It's been something, I think, for all the shit that lots of people get, there has been wave after wave after wave of people leaving the Democratic Party.
01:13:16.000The Native Americans used to, one of the ways to hunt buffalo was to get them to the edge of a cliff and just run at them and they'd just fall off the edge of the cliff and then people would be waiting on the bottom and they'd butcher them and eat them.
01:13:42.000Their understanding of social media and the dynamics that you set up by having completely state-controlled mainstream media where they only said the narratives that you guys wanted.
01:13:53.000They all said it in step so you could watch different programs.
01:14:38.000Like, I didn't really understand media when I first came into media.
01:14:41.000I'd already been, like, in Hollywood and comedy and then ended up in media.
01:14:45.000And one of the first parties I was ever exposed to was, like, the height of a lot of this, like, 2018. And it was very divided.
01:14:52.000And people were in true, like, oh, Trump is, like, gonna ruin the world.
01:14:57.000And there was a Daily Beast party and Ann Coulter was there.
01:15:00.000And, like, people were all just hanging out.
01:15:01.000I'm like, these people don't fucking believe anything they're saying.
01:15:06.000I mean, Ann probably does, but these guys don't.
01:15:10.000And then I would see this over and over again where people would fight, and then they'd get off, and I'll be like, see you at the play date.
01:15:19.000There was something very strange to me about that.
01:15:22.000Do you remember that old cartoon where there was the sheepdog and the coyote, and they would say hi to each other in the morning and punch in, and then they'd fuck each other up all day?
01:15:42.000You know, I mean, that's one of the things that Kamala Harris said after her debate with Joe Biden, where she called, she believed Joe Biden's accuser that, you know, he had sexually assaulted some woman.
01:16:29.000Of course, I don't know what happened.
01:16:30.000For you to say that you believe it just because you want to win, now all of a sudden I have to say, well, I don't know if I can trust you about foreign policy.
01:16:38.000I don't know if I can trust you about the economy.
01:16:40.000I don't know if I can trust you about censorship and the need for a social credit score or all these different things.
01:16:46.000What is the real person behind these actions?
01:16:50.000Are you entirely motivated by money and influence?
01:16:54.000Because that seems like a lot of them.
01:16:55.000It's upsetting to me, though, because even though it's It's like, we can see it's like wrestling and some of these people are full of shit and they're all buddies and whatever, like hanging out at Park City or hanging out wherever they hang out.
01:17:09.000Like, the real people are, I see how like broken some of the Elon thing recently really, it was like a whole new wave of people who were like, I don't know if I can talk to you.
01:17:21.000I've managed to survive like eight years of the culture war still.
01:17:25.000Maintaining pretty okay relationships with even the most staunch liberals in my life.
01:17:30.000And the Elon thing, for some reason, you know, the hand gesture.
01:17:36.000It, like, put people over the edge and they were like, I can't, I don't know if I can, you know, be friends with a Nazi apologist.
01:17:46.000I've made it this far, but I legitimately feel bad because the media has told these people that this was literally Hitler for many, many years, and then he's up there shaking hands with Obama, there's Joe Biden, they're all up there, it's a peaceful transfer of power.
01:20:53.000Because, I mean, we're just as susceptible to sharing stuff that's not true.
01:21:00.000I think there's a big difference between a massive organization being influenced with talking points by a government and corporations to present something versus an idiot sharing propaganda without knowing it.
01:21:17.000We, I do, I do wonder like how you, how you have to, you know, I was talking to someone like, is there a way to, I think you have to just like pause, you know?
01:23:29.000That doesn't take you back to like 1950s with Kenneth Arnold where he saw those flying discs moving through the sky, which is where the term flying saucer came from because it was like saucers skipping across a lake.
01:23:39.000And what about all the people kind of all over the world who have experienced like a similar thing?
01:23:44.000And why do all the drawings always look the same?
01:24:34.000The rest of it is vague and weird and malleable.
01:24:40.000It's constantly changing in that you wake and sleep and wake and sleep and assume that every time you wake up you're in the same exact area, the same space, the environment looks the same.
01:24:53.000But it might be a completely different dimension.
01:24:55.000There might be intertwined realities that are constantly experiencing itself over and over and over again.
01:25:02.000And then there also might be other dimensions that higher beings have the capability of traversing that we don't.
01:26:02.000It is from 1893. Nearly forgotten, Barron Trump's marvelous underground journey blends science fiction and fantasy in a story told by little Barron Trump, an aristocrat boy, there you go, that's what he is, who sets out from Castle Trump, which is where he lives, to discover a world within a world that he read about in a 15th Central manuscript, celebrated thinker in philosophy he learned Spaniard Don from.
01:31:47.000Just like a giant stuck in the Martian surface?
01:31:51.000I don't think anybody really thinks it's a face anymore.
01:31:53.000If you scroll up and look at that image from July 1976, that image, what's interesting to me is not the face, because I don't think it's a face, but what's interesting to me is the shape of the base of it.
01:33:03.000Yeah, Europa, that's solid ice, and they think underneath that, well, the surface is solid ice, and they think underneath that is liquid water, and liquid water is capable of supporting life.
01:33:11.000So it's possible, especially when you see, like, those thermal vents that they find in the bottom of the ocean that sustain some form of life.
01:33:18.000There might be some form of life inside the oceans of Europa.
01:34:16.000I love anything that's like post-apocalyptic show where people are living in a wasteland or in some weird, and they're underground in all these silos, and they all have to live, and there's people at the bottom, and it's really, but it's definitely like, they've never seen the sun, they've never seen...
01:45:18.000Also, how did you let it happen in the first place?
01:45:21.000How did this administration let them just bomb the fucking shit out of all those people and blow up an entire city to the point where you...
01:45:30.000You could even feasibly say that you would rebuild it.
01:45:33.000Because it's not like before this had happened, if anybody had ever said the United States is going to go into Gaza and completely rebuild it and make it the United States, everybody's like, fuck you.
01:46:13.000What's the current number of people that are dead in Gaza right now?
01:46:17.000It's such a weird thing, too, because Israel, I feel like, has to, like, not win a war, which is a weird thing, where they have to, like, they're in a position where they...
01:46:49.000Of course, but also we don't live in Israel, right?
01:46:52.000We don't have to live with the Iron Dome because missiles are being shot into your city and you watch them explode up in the sky because your military has these rockets that shoot up in the sky missiles and take these fucking missiles out.
01:47:05.000Yeah, I think about like if it was my daughter that was like in some tunnel, I would be like...
01:47:12.000You know, I know that's very, like, selfish of me, but that is, on a personal level, I'm like, I can't even imagine how I would feel in that situation as a parent.
01:47:24.000Well, that's the deepest conspiracy theory about why it happened in the first place, is because Netanyahu was losing power and people were protesting against him in the streets, and what better way...
01:47:33.000To get everybody on your side than to allow an attack to take place.
01:47:38.000That's the darkest of the false flag conspiracy theories.
01:47:41.000I have a lot of people that I know who now think 9-11 was an inside job after October 7th.
01:56:47.000I mean, it's going to be a wild four years, I think.
01:56:50.000Because I did think that, like, I figured, I figured, I thought maybe that people would understand that they were wrong and that, like, maybe they'd gone too far.
01:57:13.000But I think the people that are still comfortable and still working in these environments that still cling to these ideas, they're going to double down and wear a pussy hat and fucking paint their hair blue and protest in the streets.
01:57:29.000It's so weird because I was thinking about how I've now been 10 years in the culture wars, which is not...
01:58:42.000Some weird YouTube strikes that I'd say, yes, it's easy to do, except I've had to play 10 years of a game of, like, outrunning censors and, like, Patreon.
02:00:11.000But this is why it's hard for people to just say what they want.
02:00:15.000Well, what do you think is going to happen when you're looking at all this crazy shit right now with Doge and the uncovering of USAID and this dismantling of this bizarre left-wing ecosystem that's pretty much manufactured?
02:00:30.000What do you see is going to happen with the rest of the country?
02:00:33.000I mean, look, there are a lot of people who did not vote for Trump.
02:02:03.000If you look at what Doge is uncovering, what they're uncovering with this USAID stuff, a lot of that stuff was organizing through NGOs protests.
02:02:12.000They organized the attempt at getting Trump impeached.
02:02:17.000I thought you were going to say killed.
02:03:14.000What if the world gets safer, the country gets safer, the economy improves, and they don't attack civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, all these things that everybody's worried about?
02:03:23.000And then at the end of it, you realize, hey, maybe I was wrong.
02:03:41.000I mean, when I say they, I mean people who have bought into the idea that this person is going to make everything worse and we're going to slip into a fascist technocracy.
02:04:24.000Was I rooting for a basic theft of our tax dollars that's gone to all these completely useless endeavors that were only set up as ways to pill for money?
02:05:39.000I was like, Elon knows none of these motherfuckers, even when they go to Blue Sky, they've all got secret accounts and they're lurking on Twitter still, or X still, or whatever.
02:05:47.000You can't live in that echo chamber, that Blue Sky echo chamber.
02:05:51.000You can't even go on there and say there's only two genders.
02:05:53.000If you go on there and say there's two genders, they ban you immediately.
02:05:56.000They're like eating themselves within two days over there, though.
02:06:02.000And I think some of that is not even real.
02:06:05.000I personally know comics who go on Blue Sky and just say insane leftist stuff, just like the most preposterous thing, like maybe Duncan would do.
02:06:14.000I'm not saying Duncan does it, but he might do it.
02:06:16.000But I know comics that do that just to see the reaction, how people agree with them.
02:07:15.000And then you have to do a deep dive and all the goddamn arguments back and forth to figure out who's right.
02:07:22.000All the logic and see people ignoring certain core facts.
02:07:27.000This is the most fascinating thing about this USAID thing to me, is how people on the left are completely ignoring all the rampant, obvious corruption and conflicts of interest in the government funding non-government organizations that in turn fund the government.
02:08:01.000I mean, that is my issue with people being like, see, it is the political thing isn't right, which is true.
02:08:07.000It's important to be accurate, but it's also like, yeah, but this money shouldn't be spent this way.
02:08:14.000So just because this thing is maybe not true, you're pointing to this one thing that people are misrepresenting, but there's a much bigger problem you seem to want to just sweep under the rug.
02:08:26.000Oh, you guys are just crazy for noticing all these connections.
02:08:30.000But didn't they make them stop or something?
02:08:56.000You're dealing with so many things that are happening at the same time.
02:08:59.000You have this technology that was never available before that is allowing people to freely express themselves online, right?
02:09:06.000And then you have this maniac billionaire who buys the biggest one and makes it the Wild West again.
02:09:12.000And then you have government being exposed for what it is.
02:09:15.000So you have all these fucking NGOs, this web of—we talked about it yesterday—this web of 55,000 different NGOs that were supporting all these liberal causes that were all— Completely intertwined and they had to use software to find that and figure it out.
02:09:30.000They're finding out that this is like this complicated propaganda network that existed.
02:09:49.000What about the fucking people in Maui?
02:09:52.000That could have been fixed with $5 billion.
02:09:54.000The government could have said, we are going to rebuild those people's homes to the exact state and even better than where they were before.
02:10:05.000All the money that we're sending over to Ukraine, all the money that we send to Israel, all the money we send to all these different organizations that work with USAID in the tune of billions and billions and billions of dollars.
02:10:18.000And instead of doing that, they're telling us that what we have to do is continue to fund all these programs in all these other countries that just so conveniently have a whole staff of people that's making a great wage and their political capital is bet on all this stuff and it all is involved with intertwined with these NGOs and all this money they're getting.
02:11:04.000All that could have been addressed, too.
02:11:06.000The same way we address problems in other countries.
02:11:09.000So if you have this amazing slush fund that USAID is, and it's not being applied at all to the problems of America, why would you think people would support it?
02:11:20.000Why would we support it with our tax dollars when we know that the country is massively in debt?
02:11:25.000Well, and it's like, I appreciate that there are so many problems.
02:11:28.000I think people, I do feel like for the first time ever, there is an actual transfer of power.
02:11:35.000Like every single election through my lifetime, it's been, there's been all the normal fighting between the two parties and then the election.
02:11:44.000It happens, and one party wins, and then nothing changes.
02:11:48.000And you just keep sliding and sliding and sliding and sliding, and everybody says they're going to do something, and no one does anything.
02:11:54.000And then you have fucking Elon come in like a wrecking ball, and a very motivated Trump, who seems organized this time, and they actually feel like they're making changes.
02:12:07.000Changes that, by the way, American people want.
02:12:16.000My friend Max Meyer was saying, he's a very smart guy, he was saying no one with any numerical ability has ever looked into Medicare and Medicaid fraud.
02:13:00.000I mean, you know how complicated it would be to try and...
02:13:03.000Untangle that web of where you're inflating things that people have and you're saying this is like a band.
02:13:09.000You see these things online where it's like a band-aid is $25,000, you know?
02:13:15.000Someone explained that to me too, is that when you have a budget, say if you run an organization and it has a budget, you get money from the government and that budget's like $80 million a year, you can't spend $60 million because then you're going to get $60 million next year.
02:14:01.000Johnny Hostin's surgeon husband has found himself in the hot seat in a massive lawsuit accusing nearly 200 healthcare providers of insurance fraud.
02:14:09.000Dr. Emanuel Hostin defiantly called himself the victim of a frivolous smear campaign last month after he was accused of providing fraudulent medical services in exchange for kickbacks in a complaint filed by American Transit Insurance Company in December.
02:14:39.000Taxi Company and Uger Lyft drivers announced last Monday more than 141 of the 186 defendants named in the suit have agreed in principle to settle one of the largest RICO cases ever filed in New York.
02:14:52.000The papers filed by the law firm Manning Cass did not specify which defendants offered to settle.
02:14:59.000Dr. Hostin has until February 10 to respond to the legal complaint.
02:15:04.000So it has something to do with drives from the hospital and kickbacks from all this shit.
02:15:12.000Yeah, because that's what they need, though, is these guys who can use this AI technology to get in there and start looking on a massive scale at what all of these, everything.
02:15:26.000I mean, they have to look at everything.
02:15:36.000Hostin knowingly provided, this is in quotes, knowingly provided fraudulent medical and other health care services, including orthoscopic surgeries.
02:15:44.000The lawsuit filed on December 17th claims American Transit was then billed in exchange for kickbacks and or other compensation which were disguised as dividends or other cash distribution.
02:15:55.000I don't know how they know this, so I don't want to comment on this.
02:15:59.000I don't really understand what this is.
02:17:13.000A Detroit-area hematologist-oncologist was sentenced today to serve 45 years in prison for his role in a healthcare fraud scheme that included administrating medically unnecessary infusions or injections to, oh, it's 553 individual patients, and submitting to Medicare and private insurance companies approximately $34 million in fraudulent claims.
02:17:32.000This is the fucking sickest thing I've ever heard!
02:20:10.000But, you know, I don't know if we should be telling people that it could do that maybe in the future, so invest in my company or whatever the fuck's going on, you know?
02:20:18.000I was at this crazy boondoggle, and I saw a bunch of these people talk, and everybody was clapping, and I was like, this is the scariest shit I've ever heard.
02:20:29.000And I think it might have been Sam who was talking to Altman, and everybody was just like, yay, let's give them money!
02:20:57.000Unless the grid goes down, like, or something, unless there is something catastrophic, asteroid hits the Earth, whatever, which I think there might be one coming, there is, there's nothing we can do.
02:22:38.000It's the best thing in the whole world, but yeah, he doesn't think she wants to drive, and he's like, she's not going to need to know how to drive.
02:22:44.000Well, she probably will learn how to drive, but it won't be necessary.
02:22:49.000I think they're going to make the argument that autonomous driving is way safer.
02:24:59.000Well, eventually you'll be able to do that.
02:25:01.000Eventually it won't even have a steering wheel.
02:25:02.000Eventually it'll be a pod that you get in and it takes you places.
02:25:05.000This reminds me of that Silicon Valley episode where the self-driving car drives right into one of the shipping containers and then he's just stuck in a shipping container.
02:25:19.000But again, if you go back to the people that were on trains and riding horses, and you say, one day, you're going to be able to get in a car that goes 1.9 seconds, zero to 60, and it's going to be electric and make no sound.
02:25:32.000Well, one day, you're not going to need to steer, because steering is why people get fucked up, because the cars can't detect other cars around them.
02:25:56.000The other night I was driving home, actually from Mothership, it was like 1.30 in the morning, and there was a guy on the left side of the freeway walking.
02:27:00.000The Wild West, or like Texas, there's just an energy here of kind of, every time I'm down on 6th Street, I'm like, I'm going to catch a stray down here.
02:28:24.000Yeah, because I would see people driving recklessly on the 101. Like when I was coming home from the store sometimes, I'd be like, what the fuck?
02:28:58.000But it's also just like everything is less of a battle.
02:29:01.000You said it to me, I think, like you felt like you could exhale on one of our, like when you were talking, you were like, I moved there and just felt like, I can like breathe a little.
02:29:09.000And I mean, my husband has like scientific evidence that he, his whole like energy field got more chill.
02:29:19.000Yeah, you're not supposed to be living in a place that has 20 million people.
02:31:53.000Do you think you were getting this feeling like you said, like here, it's in the soil.
02:31:58.000There's something in the soil here, like this fierce independence because these people are tough and they survived making it across the Great Plains and all that shit.
02:32:06.000Do you think you felt that there, like this is the feeling of this civilization that used to exist in this place?
02:32:50.000Do you think it's because you knew what the civilization was like and it had declined and gone and now you're there and you're just psychologically dealing with this and you're kind of freaking out and putting it on yourself?
02:33:27.000And I've always felt very connected to it.
02:33:30.000And so when I went there and was across from, we were in the King Farouk suite, actually, and it had a balcony that overlooked the Nile and the tombs.
02:33:40.000And it was, I could feel, it was like something in my heart, like a vibration.
02:33:44.000And they've said that these places, like, where there are these pyramids, they can have vibrations.
02:33:53.000It kept hitting my heart and then I thought they drugged me.
02:33:56.000I thought they gave me something in my hibiscus tea because I started like, I immediately, I drank the hibiscus tea and I was like, maybe they put some kind of like hallucinogen in it.
02:34:08.000But I think I just, I like, I think about this a lot because I've had friends who have had anxiety and panic attacks and I know what it's like to like get in your head and feel like you're losing your mind and I had to baby step my way out of this like, Panic attack where I couldn't eat.
02:34:35.000I had anxiety before, but it was when I was smoking a lot of weed and doing a lot of drugs and I was in a marriage I didn't want to be in to my first husband.
02:35:41.000There was another time that was really supernatural when I was in Newport, Rhode Island, and I swear there was, like, a haunting.
02:35:47.000But other than that, this was, it felt supernatural.
02:35:51.000Like, it didn't feel normal, and it took me two full days to, like, whatever hit me in my heart on that balcony, and I couldn't, like, all I could hear was this, like, want, want, and it was reverberating from the...
02:36:06.000I sound like a crazy person, but it was reverberating from the tombs.
02:36:10.000And then I would just, I remember eating a grape so slowly and mindfully just to like come back into my body.
02:36:18.000And I had these like crazy dreams and I felt like I saw all these connections, like people in my life present.
02:36:23.000And it was, it was really, it was weird.
02:36:28.000Had a physical reaction where it was like a scene from a movie where it was like, zap, zap, zap, zap, zap, like all these people in my life.
02:36:35.000And the guy I was with, thank God, he could have been a total asshole and been like, you're a fucking psycho, I'm leaving you.
02:36:42.000But he had had a weird experience with me in his guest house in New Zealand where I would fall asleep sometimes downstairs or we'd pass out or whatever.
02:37:18.000So he's like, you're weird and psychic and, like, a weird thing.
02:37:23.000He was like, you're touched by something.
02:37:26.000And we used to play backgammon all the time, and one time I rolled a dice, and I'm sure it was just lint, but I wanted to win so badly, and then the dice just was on his corner, just frozen.
02:37:36.000So he had weird, like, just on the tip of it, just like, he's like, what the fuck?
02:39:40.000Whatever the energy, I bet Egypt was probably even more incredible, but whatever the energy of that place was, there's some of it left there.
02:39:49.000There's some weird intangible feeling that's left there that just makes you feel very, very strange.
02:39:54.000When I was in L.A. at the Getty Villa, I always go there, and they had the Thrace exhibit.
02:41:01.000I'd never even really heard of Thrace.
02:41:03.000You know, I've always been very obsessed with, like, Greek mythology, Roman history, all of these things, but Thrace is this crazy civilization.
02:41:12.000Look at the relief with two Thracians.
02:45:14.000Yeah, and cheap enough because it's kind of expensive.
02:45:17.000It's expensive and it's also weird to have something in your face.
02:45:19.000People feel weird like wearing this big clunky thing.
02:45:22.000But if you can sit down and attach something to your head and then all of a sudden you're in another world, you're an avatar flying on a fucking dragon.