The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2271

00:00:00.000 The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day Good to see you my friend Good to be seen.

00:00:14.000 Thank you.

00:00:14.000 Good to see you.

00:00:15.000 We were supposed to be doing the end of the year, but unfortunately, you got caught with the cooties.

00:00:20.000 I did.

00:00:21.000 I did.

00:00:22.000 What'd you get?

00:00:22.000 I can officially announce that the end of 2024 is right now.

00:00:29.000 I've been waiting for that.

00:00:30.000 This calendar's all bullshit anyway.

00:00:32.000 It's supposed to be on that old one that's 13 months.

00:00:34.000 There you go.

00:00:37.000 So what happened?

00:00:37.000 What'd you catch?

00:00:38.000 Well, I thought I had bronchitis.

00:00:40.000 Everybody in the house had it, and we go to CrossFit, and they all had it.

00:00:45.000 I go to CrossFit, Jax, and my trainer's Megan Russell there, and she's going, ah, you know, you might want to take it easy a little bit.

00:00:55.000 Of course, I'm smoking cigarettes, and I got bronchitis.

00:00:59.000 I go to a clinic.

00:01:02.000 They give me some drugs.

00:01:03.000 Yeah, you've got bronchitis.

00:01:05.000 Go home.

00:01:06.000 A couple days later, I'm sleeping in my chair, and my wife has one of those little oxygen modern things you put on your finger.

00:01:13.000 She wakes me up and goes, all right, let's go.

00:01:18.000 What do you mean, let's go?

00:01:20.000 Oxygen levels.

00:01:21.000 You're going to the hospital.

00:01:24.000 What?

00:01:25.000 I'm just sitting here taking a nap.

00:01:28.000 No, you're going to the hospital.

00:01:30.000 So I said, okay.

00:01:31.000 So we get, it's late at night.

00:01:33.000 We go to St. Vincent's Clinic.

00:01:36.000 Go in.

00:01:38.000 It's late.

00:01:40.000 And I'm sitting there waiting for the doctor.

00:01:44.000 Arian F. Sherry.

00:01:46.000 Great guy, it turns out.

00:01:48.000 He comes in and looking at me.

00:01:51.000 He's young enough to be one of my kids.

00:01:54.000 He goes, Stethoscope, listening to my lungs.

00:01:59.000 He goes, do you smoke?

00:02:01.000 I said, yeah.

00:02:02.000 He says, you need to quit.

00:02:05.000 I said, I just did.

00:02:07.000 He goes, what?

00:02:08.000 I said, I just did.

00:02:09.000 I'm done.

00:02:10.000 Now what do we do?

00:02:12.000 He goes, well, next you're going to the hospital.

00:02:16.000 This is just a clinic.

00:02:17.000 I said, what do you mean I'm going to the hospital?

00:02:19.000 He said, you haven't got bronchitis, you've got pneumonia.

00:02:22.000 And I think you've got double pneumonia.

00:02:25.000 So you're going right now.

00:02:26.000 What's double pneumonia?

00:02:27.000 Both lungs.

00:02:28.000 Oh.

00:02:30.000 The bad kind.

00:02:31.000 The bad kind.

00:02:32.000 He says, but the good news is you don't have bronchitis.

00:02:36.000 I said, okay.

00:02:37.000 I guess that's good news.

00:02:38.000 And that was about the time I was supposed to be in the studio with you.

00:02:42.000 Just a couple days before that.

00:02:44.000 Wow.

00:02:45.000 And I'm going, wow, this kind of screwed up my plans.

00:02:48.000 As you know, best made plans and all that.

00:02:51.000 Listen, the plans are all bullshit.

00:02:53.000 We made those up.

00:02:54.000 We'll do it at the end of the year.

00:02:55.000 It doesn't have to be that.

00:02:57.000 Thanks for the invite.

00:02:59.000 I look forward to it this year.

00:03:00.000 I'm just happy that you're okay.

00:03:01.000 I am okay.

00:03:02.000 The date didn't matter.

00:03:04.000 Things happen.

00:03:05.000 I'm just glad you recovered.

00:03:06.000 I'm glad you quit smoking, too.

00:03:08.000 Yeah, he says you need to quit smoking.

00:03:09.000 I did and went to the hospital.

00:03:11.000 I was in there for almost five days.

00:03:14.000 I haven't been in a hospital in a while, but they have it.

00:03:17.000 St. Vincent's did a great job.

00:03:19.000 The nurses have their little machines they wheel around and they come into your room every...

00:03:23.000 It seemed like quite often to check your vitals, to do this, to do intravenous, to do that.

00:03:28.000 Yeah.

00:03:29.000 So I'm sitting in there and couldn't sleep.

00:03:32.000 So I'm one of those guys that if you walk by the door and you see an old guy sitting on a bed looking out the door, that's me.

00:03:39.000 So I maybe got an hour, two hours of sleep at night.

00:03:43.000 Did you have a hard time kicking the cigarettes?

00:03:45.000 Because you've been smoking, like, your whole life, right?

00:03:47.000 I did.

00:03:48.000 I've smoked for over 50 years.

00:03:50.000 And I know it's bad for me, and I've never been an anti-smoking crusader.

00:03:56.000 But if anything good comes in my appearance with you today, it was that this Dr. F. Shari, total stranger, guy I never met before in my life, happened to tell me, at the right exact time, you need to quit.

00:04:11.000 And I've been thinking I need to quit for a long time.

00:04:14.000 My loved ones told me that, my wife, my kids.

00:04:17.000 And I never, okay, yeah, that's a good idea.

00:04:19.000 It's a weird thing because it kills you slowly.

00:04:22.000 And along the way, it gives you just a little bit of happiness.

00:04:25.000 A little bit of happiness while it kills you slowly.

00:04:28.000 And it's not just a problem of killing you slowly, it's how it's going to kill you.

00:04:32.000 The way it's going to kill you, it's going to suffocate you.

00:04:34.000 Yep.

00:04:35.000 I have a friend, my friend Mike, who owns the Comedy and Magic Club in Hermosa Beach.

00:04:41.000 And he was trying to convince a friend of mine to quit smoking because his wife is a nurse.

00:04:46.000 I believe so.

00:04:47.000 I believe I'm not out of school.

00:04:47.000 But he was explaining that the way people die of lung cancer, the way people die at the end.

00:04:54.000 And he's like, it's horrible.

00:04:56.000 You don't see that.

00:04:57.000 You just hear he died of cancer.

00:04:59.000 You don't see what the final days are like.

00:05:01.000 And it's avoidable.

00:05:03.000 It's avoidable.

00:05:04.000 Yeah, well, since I quit, I don't cough anymore.

00:05:07.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:05:08.000 It's crazy.

00:05:09.000 I can breathe better.

00:05:12.000 I'm still getting better from the pneumonia.

00:05:16.000 I'm sure.

00:05:17.000 Because it takes a while to get over that.

00:05:19.000 Yeah, I was amazed that you could still fly so quickly.

00:05:22.000 We drove.

00:05:22.000 You drove from Alaska?

00:05:24.000 No, from Florida.

00:05:25.000 Oh, that's right.

00:05:26.000 Florida and the waves.

00:05:27.000 We were in Florida.

00:05:28.000 How long did that take, though?

00:05:29.000 That's a couple days.

00:05:30.000 It was a couple days.

00:05:31.000 Jesus Christ.

00:05:32.000 Well, we had stuff we didn't want to put on the airlines.

00:05:35.000 Got it.

00:05:36.000 Wink.

00:05:37.000 Government.

00:05:39.000 I'm just teasing.

00:05:41.000 We wanted a road trip.

00:05:43.000 We want a little adventure.

00:05:44.000 You fly over this country at 45,000 feet and you're looking out the window.

00:05:48.000 It's a big country.

00:05:49.000 It happens in two hours.

00:05:51.000 That's right.

00:05:52.000 And you're looking out and suddenly you see a little dot and see some houses.

00:05:56.000 I wonder what those people do down there.

00:05:58.000 That's a real problem with people who don't venture outside of the bubbles.

00:06:01.000 If they're in those left-wing liberal bubbles like New York and California, the people that don't travel, what helped me a lot is doing stand-up on the road.

00:06:09.000 Oh, boy.

00:06:10.000 Because I was everywhere.

00:06:11.000 So I would go to all these different towns all over the country.

00:06:14.000 You get to see a whole different group of people, a whole different kind of people.

00:06:18.000 You know, it's like people are the same and different everywhere you go.

00:06:22.000 And this idea that the people in the middle are stupid, especially now, that's a really dumb way to look at it because of the Internet.

00:06:28.000 Now everybody kind of has access to information.

00:06:31.000 And you're going to have dumb people and you're going to have smart people no matter where you go, including in the cities.

00:06:35.000 But the problem in the cities is the dumb people can trick you because they believe the things that the smart people believe.

00:06:40.000 And they say them loudly.

00:06:42.000 And so they think they're smart.

00:06:43.000 So this is a way to be smart without actually being smart.

00:06:45.000 Just say the things the smart people say and say it like you're defending it and you're defending freedom or science or some shit, democracy, whatever it is.

00:06:52.000 You just yell it out.

00:06:53.000 And then the smart people won't say anything because you're saying the things that they want to say.

00:06:59.000 And the other people are like, hey, I know what you're doing.

00:07:02.000 And more than anything, it turns people off.

00:07:07.000 Exactly.

00:07:07.000 And by traveling, you have a chance at having an adventure.

00:07:12.000 Yeah.

00:07:12.000 Something cool could happen.

00:07:14.000 Yeah, you run into interesting characters.

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00:08:23.000 Regular humans just living different lives.

00:08:27.000 They're all over the place.

00:08:28.000 They're all unique.

00:08:29.000 That's the cool thing about this country.

00:08:30.000 If you really did have the time...

00:08:31.000 That's what I loved about Anthony Bourdain's show.

00:08:34.000 Especially the first one that he had.

00:08:35.000 You go to these little hot dog stands in New Jersey.

00:08:39.000 You just hang out with people and street food.

00:08:43.000 You know, you just get a bigger picture of humans and life.

00:08:48.000 When we got to, I forget, Texas, there was a place called Bucky's.

00:08:54.000 Oh, yeah!

00:08:56.000 Jesus Christ.

00:08:56.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:08:57.000 First time you go there, you're like, what the hell is this place?

00:09:00.000 200 gas pumps.

00:09:02.000 Yeah.

00:09:02.000 I'm like, what are you doing?

00:09:04.000 We paid $1.47 a gallon.

00:09:07.000 That's three times less than what I pay in Alaska.

00:09:11.000 Oh yeah, Alaska's got to be rough, right?

00:09:13.000 But meanwhile, that's where they get the oil.

00:09:14.000 Isn't the oil real close to there?

00:09:16.000 It runs right through my property.

00:09:18.000 I helped build that son of a bitch.

00:09:21.000 Anyways, I've never understood the economics of how that works.

00:09:25.000 California's the worst.

00:09:26.000 I believe the way we tried to figure this out the other day, I don't think we got to the bottom of it though.

00:09:30.000 I think California has to use gasoline that's refined in California.

00:09:36.000 It's one of the reasons why...

00:09:37.000 And then, I'm sure, crazy fucking carbon taxes, whatever.

00:09:41.000 They ramp up some extra shit to make it more expensive.

00:09:45.000 Because you're looking at a price per gallon that's like a couple bucks more a gallon always than it is here.

00:09:51.000 As soon as we came here, I was like, what happened to gas prices?

00:09:53.000 Why is it so less here?

00:09:55.000 You get a little plastic bottle of water.

00:09:58.000 Right?

00:09:59.000 12 ounces.

00:10:00.000 Yeah.

00:10:02.000 You look at that bottle, you'll pay two bucks for it in a 7-Eleven.

00:10:05.000 You know, for that little bottle of water.

00:10:08.000 Four of those bottles of water make a gallon.

00:10:10.000 You're paying eight bucks a gallon for water.

00:10:13.000 Water is the most abundant thing on the planet.

00:10:16.000 It's everywhere.

00:10:17.000 Right.

00:10:18.000 Except in some parts of California.

00:10:20.000 Apparently they didn't want to have the reservoirs filled up.

00:10:23.000 Well, they had to put a lid on it, John.

00:10:26.000 There's a lid, and the lid was broken.

00:10:28.000 Remember we talked about that 60-foot diameter water line coming down from southeast Alaska to California?

00:10:35.000 Yeah.

00:10:35.000 That would have been helpful.

00:10:37.000 Yeah.

00:10:37.000 Yeah, we talked about that.

00:10:39.000 If they can do that with oil, why can't they do that with water?

00:10:43.000 Because they're afraid there'd be a water leak in the Pacific Ocean.

00:10:46.000 You can't have water leak.

00:10:47.000 Yeah, you can't drown the ocean.

00:10:48.000 That's terrible.

00:10:49.000 Oh, so anyway, so you're looking at $8 a gallon for water.

00:10:52.000 Yeah.

00:10:53.000 But oil, you've got to...

00:10:54.000 First of all, you've got to go find it.

00:10:56.000 Right.

00:10:56.000 Then you've got to do all kinds of seismic work.

00:10:58.000 Then you've got to drill.

00:10:59.000 And then you've got to discover it.

00:11:00.000 And then you've got to build a well.

00:11:02.000 And then you've got to build feeder lines.

00:11:04.000 Then you've got to get it to a pump station.

00:11:05.000 Then you've got to get it somewhere in a pipeline.

00:11:07.000 Then you've got to ship it 4,000 miles.

00:11:10.000 Yeah.

00:11:11.000 And you've got to use it to ship it, which is even crazier.

00:11:13.000 And you're paying $1.47 a gallon.

00:11:17.000 How's this working, boys?

00:11:19.000 I don't get it.

00:11:20.000 It is crazy.

00:11:20.000 And how much do you have?

00:11:22.000 How are we burning so much and still there?

00:11:25.000 How much is there?

00:11:26.000 How much do you guys have left?

00:11:27.000 They got a bunch in Alaska.

00:11:29.000 They got a bunch everywhere.

00:11:30.000 I bet they got a bunch in Greenland, too.

00:11:32.000 There is a book that I read, a book that I read, I think, in the 90s called Black Gold Stranglehold, maybe early 2000s.

00:11:39.000 And I never found out if it was real or not.

00:11:42.000 I never looked into it any further.

00:11:44.000 I need to talk to like an expert.

00:11:45.000 But this guy was essentially saying that oil is a natural property of Earth.

00:11:49.000 And that it's not like dinosaur fossils.

00:11:53.000 Like we like to think about it.

00:11:54.000 Fossil fuels.

00:11:55.000 Dinosaurs and plants break down.

00:11:57.000 They make oil.

00:11:58.000 No, he said oil is a natural component of Earth.

00:12:01.000 And that the proof is in the fact that if they have these wells that go dry, they can wait just a little while.

00:12:09.000 And then they could go back to the well again, and it'll replenish itself.

00:12:13.000 Yep.

00:12:14.000 How is that possible if this is just decaying matter over millions and millions of years?

00:12:18.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:12:19.000 Unless it's coming, seeping in from other areas that they don't have access to, and it somehow or another gets to that well, like it's all like a stream underground, which begs the question, like, how much is there?

00:12:31.000 They found out that there's three times more water in the ground, underground, than there is in all the oceans of Earth.

00:12:40.000 It's some crazy stuff, dude.

00:12:42.000 Crazy stuff!

00:12:43.000 That I didn't even make sense because they said the water's trapped.

00:12:46.000 I think they're saying the water's trapped in rocks.

00:12:49.000 Is that what they're saying?

00:12:51.000 See if you can find that article.

00:12:53.000 It's three times as much water under the ground as the ocean.

00:12:58.000 How?

00:13:00.000 Three times?

00:13:01.000 It's stored within a mineral called ringwoodite.

00:13:06.000 Ringwoodite?

00:13:06.000 What does it look like?

00:13:08.000 Does it have a picture?

00:13:10.000 Like some fucking avatar mineral.

00:13:12.000 Some glowing blue mineral filled with water.

00:13:15.000 Yeah, that's kind of what it looks like.

00:13:16.000 Really?

00:13:17.000 Oh, shit!

00:13:18.000 That's crazy!

00:13:19.000 I called it.

00:13:21.000 Magnesium silicate.

00:13:23.000 Wow, it's beautiful.

00:13:24.000 Show me an image of that shit.

00:13:27.000 Key points about it.

00:13:29.000 The hidden ocean is found under hundreds of miles below the Earth's surface in the transition zone between the upper and lower mantle.

00:13:35.000 The water is trapped within the crystal structure of the mineral ringwoodite.

00:13:40.000 Significance.

00:13:40.000 This discovery could significantly alter our understanding of the Earth's water cycle and potentially provide insights into the origin of water on our planet.

00:13:47.000 Whoa.

00:13:49.000 Thank God there's scientists out there.

00:13:51.000 Except, you know, of course the cocksuckers that fucking steal your bones won't give them back.

00:13:56.000 Motherfuckers.

00:13:56.000 Fuck those guys.

00:13:57.000 But other scientists, like these cool guys that figured this out.

00:14:00.000 These cool guys, gals, and non-binary folk.

00:14:04.000 That is wild stuff, man.

00:14:06.000 Three times as much ocean?

00:14:08.000 Is it in the ocean?

00:14:09.000 That's so crazy.

00:14:11.000 So that's the transition zone.

00:14:12.000 It's all hydrated.

00:14:15.000 How long before rappers start wearing that around a necklace?

00:14:19.000 That seems like a dope necklace.

00:14:21.000 That's that shit that they make water out of.

00:14:24.000 Dope.

00:14:25.000 He's got to sell it to someone.

00:14:27.000 Yeah, you just need some Kendrick Lamar type influencer.

00:14:30.000 Someone was at the top of his game to start wearing it.

00:14:33.000 You know, like Kanye in his prime.

00:14:34.000 He could have got that out there.

00:14:39.000 By the way, I want to thank you for your podcast and the one with President Trump.

00:14:46.000 Oh, you're welcome.

00:14:47.000 I thought that was great.

00:14:48.000 And I made the mistake of complimenting you on that page.

00:14:53.000 I said, I really enjoyed the podcast between you and President Trump.

00:14:59.000 Jesus Christ.

00:15:01.000 8,000 people coming at me.

00:15:03.000 I'm stopping to follow you.

00:15:06.000 You're a nasty person.

00:15:08.000 I hate you.

00:15:09.000 This is on your page?

00:15:10.000 On my page.

00:15:11.000 Yeah, you gotta stop reading the comments.

00:15:13.000 I know.

00:15:13.000 A great man once told me that.

00:15:15.000 The problem is I don't take advice and I don't give advice.

00:15:19.000 I'm trying.

00:15:19.000 I don't give a whole lot of advice.

00:15:21.000 I guess I do sometimes, but only with really important stuff.

00:15:24.000 Like, that's an important one.

00:15:26.000 You can't fix those, and they will affect the way you think.

00:15:29.000 They affect the way people behave.

00:15:31.000 They affect your freedom of expression, to freely express yourself.

00:15:35.000 I think it had a great impact on the election.

00:15:37.000 I think it had an impact.

00:15:39.000 Because it showed Mr. Trump as a regular guy.

00:15:44.000 As a human.

00:15:44.000 Yeah, humanized him.

00:15:46.000 Well, he also was right about a lot of shit.

00:15:49.000 The fact that he called the problem with the L.A. fires months before they happened was literally saying what they needed to do, what they're doing wrong, and then, boom.

00:15:59.000 Two times the size of Manhattan is gone.

00:16:02.000 Yep.

00:16:02.000 It's so crazy when you see it live or, excuse me, from above, like on video, when they do the drone sweeps over it.

00:16:09.000 Fucking, like a bomb went off, like a fucking nuclear bomb hit that part of the state.

00:16:15.000 It's nuts.

00:16:16.000 Well, maybe they can rebuild it after they rebuild Hawaii and North Carolina and take care of some of those guys.

00:16:22.000 They're still working on shit that's blown over in Florida, right?

00:16:25.000 Yep.

00:16:26.000 We saw a lot of it in Georgia when we went through.

00:16:28.000 Yeah.

00:16:29.000 I mean, you're always going to have a certain amount of hurricane damage, but if we don't take care of that first, and instead we spend $200 million on transgender animal studies, like, what the fuck?

00:16:42.000 What are we doing?

00:16:43.000 Like, why aren't we allocating money to the most important things we have, which is people and their safety and their homes and to be able to rebuild?

00:16:53.000 The fact that they get a $770 check and that's it, that's all those people in Maui got, that's just to let you know, like, this is a fucking rigged game.

00:17:03.000 So even if you're not happy with what Elon Musk is doing and he has access that he shouldn't have and all this different stuff, you...

00:17:11.000 You gotta rip the band-aid off, kids.

00:17:13.000 This country is trillions of dollars, 36 trillion dollars in debt, and a lot of the stuff that's listed on USAID, all the stuff that's coming out, all these different things that they paid for, they're so frivolous and so fucking insane.

00:17:28.000 It wouldn't be too crazy, it wouldn't be as crazy if we were at A, 36 trillion dollars in debt, and B, not taking care of people in Maui, North Carolina.

00:17:37.000 But the fact that those things exist...

00:17:39.000 That those three things exist, and then people are still, they don't want to say that he's right.

00:17:45.000 They're so locked into this idea.

00:17:48.000 If a Democrat had found all that, if Joe Biden had went in and found corruption that was in the halls of our government and tried to weed it out and said there's corruption in these NGOs, there's corruption in these not-for-profits, there's a lot of corruption and influence, and we're going to weed this out because we want a fair country.

00:18:06.000 The fucking place would be cheering them.

00:18:08.000 This would be like some shit JFK would do in 62. Everybody would be cheering them.

00:18:12.000 Yes, this is what we need, a real president.

00:18:15.000 Who's really gonna come in and fix these things?

00:18:17.000 But because Trump's doing it and the way he does things...

00:18:20.000 Did you see in the Air Force One, they announced that this is the first time a president is ever flying over the Gulf of America, the newly named Gulf of America?

00:18:32.000 That was classic.

00:18:33.000 I mean, he doesn't miss a beat.

00:18:35.000 It's funny.

00:18:37.000 It's funny.

00:18:38.000 Like, I hope that the good stuff from USAID can be picked back up.

00:18:43.000 I hope that there's some stuff that can be reinstated.

00:18:46.000 Because I think this genuine good that a lot of these non-profit organizations and NGOs, a lot of people are genuinely good.

00:18:53.000 People are doing good work.

00:18:54.000 And it'd be good for us, as a civilization, to sponsor some of that.

00:18:58.000 But you gotta know, like, what's fraud?

00:19:02.000 You know?

00:19:02.000 And how much of it is horseshit?

00:19:04.000 And how much of it can you track?

00:19:06.000 There's this guy, Ian Carroll.

00:19:08.000 Did you see Ian's video about it?

00:19:10.000 He was saying that...

00:19:12.000 Somewhere in the neighborhood of like 90% of this stuff that they're paying for.

00:19:16.000 It doesn't even make it to where it's supposed to be going.

00:19:18.000 A lot of it could just be fraud.

00:19:21.000 Yep.

00:19:22.000 Did you see that video, Jamie?

00:19:25.000 He makes a lot of cool videos.

00:19:26.000 I've seen the videos.

00:19:28.000 He's gotten things wrong, though.

00:19:29.000 I know.

00:19:30.000 That's what makes it fun.

00:19:32.000 That's why I like people like him.

00:19:34.000 Him and Candace Owens.

00:19:35.000 They're my favorite go-to's when I want to know who the fucking lizard people are.

00:19:39.000 Well, the money we send to Ukraine and they can't find a hundred billion of them.

00:19:43.000 They're only missing a hundred billion, John.

00:19:45.000 It's only a hundred billion.

00:19:46.000 It's not a lot of money.

00:19:46.000 No, it's not.

00:19:47.000 A hundred billion dollars for all those fine weapons.

00:19:51.000 I don't even know what happened.

00:19:52.000 Like, how did the money get distributed?

00:19:55.000 Like, where'd it go?

00:19:56.000 How are you missing so much?

00:19:58.000 I figure a lot of it never got out of America.

00:20:01.000 But this is the thing about human beings.

00:20:02.000 If you just don't ever have them be accountable, they won't be.

00:20:08.000 They won't be.

00:20:09.000 The United States is like a meth head that we gave a checkbook to.

00:20:13.000 And at the end of the month, we're like, what the fuck did you buy?

00:20:16.000 You know?

00:20:17.000 He's like, don't worry, man.

00:20:18.000 I got this.

00:20:19.000 I'll cover it.

00:20:20.000 What did you buy?

00:20:23.000 America's a big business.

00:20:25.000 It's a giant business.

00:20:26.000 And we got a president now that's a business guy.

00:20:29.000 Yes.

00:20:29.000 I don't wake up every morning to see what the fuck he's done.

00:20:32.000 I know that...

00:20:33.000 The business is in good hands and he'll take care of it.

00:20:36.000 Because when you drive through it and you see what we got going, you realize, man, there's people trying to make it right.

00:20:43.000 And most of the people in America are good people.

00:20:45.000 It's not racist.

00:20:47.000 They're not sexist.

00:20:49.000 They're not bad people.

00:20:50.000 Most people that you see every day are just good people.

00:20:54.000 I think that's most people in the world.

00:20:56.000 Yeah.

00:20:56.000 The people that aren't like that are the people that are in desperation.

00:21:00.000 The people that are in horrible desperation or people that have been abused, you know, and I've always said like there's this compassionate view of Immigration in this country like the progressive compassionate people their idea is we should not stop people from pursuing a better life And that they come here because where they live is fucking terrible and they want to be able to come here and they want to be able to Live the American dream and we should be open to that.

00:21:28.000 That's great.

00:21:29.000 That's But you can't do that while you're also letting in terrorists, right?

00:21:33.000 So what's the solution?

00:21:36.000 Because the solution is you bring everybody over here, they commit crimes, you have chaos, then people demonize the rest of them who are very good people who just want a better life.

00:21:44.000 Because the few that you let in, because you didn't screen at all, the few that you let in that were scumbags, they're fucking gang members and holding up apartment buildings and all this different crazy shit that we know is true.

00:21:54.000 The right way to do it is take what we have in America.

00:21:59.000 The freedom and the ability to prosper and expand that throughout the world.

00:22:05.000 Like, if we were good neighbors, what we would try to do is turn Mexico into another America, not another America culturally.

00:22:14.000 That's not what I'm saying.

00:22:15.000 But stop being run by the fucking cartels.

00:22:18.000 Stop being run by people who are selling fentanyl.

00:22:23.000 Figure out how to pay people a fair wage.

00:22:27.000 The reason why all those factories went down there, so they could pay people slave labor.

00:22:30.000 Make that illegal.

00:22:31.000 Make that illegal.

00:22:33.000 Make your own shit.

00:22:34.000 We should all help each other get to a state of living that the whole world could live at.

00:22:41.000 If that's not possible, something's real wrong with the system.

00:22:45.000 The top 1% in this country is, I don't know what it is, but the top 1% in the world is $34,000 a year.

00:22:52.000 That's how different the rest of the world is.

00:22:55.000 That's why they're walking here from Guatemala.

00:22:57.000 And I get it.

00:22:58.000 I get it.

00:22:59.000 My thought is, if you want to invest money, don't invest money in just paying all these people to live here and stay at the Roosevelt Hotel and all that crazy shit.

00:23:08.000 Invest money in making their life better where they are.

00:23:11.000 If you could figure out how to make these places where they come from as prosperous as America, wouldn't that be better?

00:23:18.000 Isn't that possible?

00:23:19.000 I mean, it's possible here.

00:23:21.000 How come you can't?

00:23:22.000 That's the best concept of spreading democracy, like spread real democracy.

00:23:27.000 But the problem with us is we don't really spread democracy.

00:23:30.000 We just go over there and take over.

00:23:31.000 We go over there and install a puppet dictatorship and throw the whole fucking country into a tizzy.

00:23:40.000 A lot of people are getting rich off of it.

00:23:42.000 A lot of people are getting rich.

00:23:43.000 This is the problem.

00:23:44.000 And we're reliant on cheap stuff.

00:23:47.000 You know, all these fucking social justice warriors and virtue signalers, they're all doing it on phones made by slaves.

00:23:56.000 That's what's crazy.

00:23:57.000 And the ones that want to shut the mining industry down, I'll use gold as an example.

00:24:02.000 By the way, gold's gone up a thousand in ounces.

00:24:04.000 I saw you last.

00:24:05.000 Damn.

00:24:06.000 $1,000 an ounce?

00:24:08.000 It's $3,000 an ounce.

00:24:09.000 Didn't they find a gang of it in China recently?

00:24:11.000 Oh, they probably got all kinds of it in China.

00:24:13.000 I think China just found some crazy new discovery of an enormous amount of gold.

00:24:21.000 They're talking about backed in a crypto coin with gold.

00:24:24.000 It's better than money.

00:24:26.000 It's real.

00:24:27.000 My son is a...

00:24:29.000 When are you going to get a boneyard crypto coin?

00:24:33.000 2024 November, China discovered a large gold deposit in the Wangu gold field in the Hunan province.

00:24:40.000 The discovery is estimated to be worth $83 billion, making it one of the largest gold finds in history.

00:24:48.000 Holy shit.

00:24:50.000 The deposit is estimated to contain over 1,000 metric tons of gold.

00:24:55.000 Gold is located in 40 veins that extend up to 3,000 meters underground.

00:24:59.000 The discovery is made using advanced 3D geological modeling.

00:25:03.000 That's incredible.

00:25:05.000 Isn't it amazing?

00:25:07.000 I mean, you're a gold miner.

00:25:08.000 Tell me, like, how do you know where to dig?

00:25:10.000 How do you guys find that stuff?

00:25:12.000 It's real simple.

00:25:13.000 Yeah?

00:25:13.000 Gold's where you find it.

00:25:15.000 That's the bottom line, Joe.

00:25:17.000 Right.

00:25:18.000 But once you make a discovery, let's use load gold, which is still in the rock.

00:25:23.000 Plaster gold, what we do is then erode it out of the rock and it's in the concentrates on bedrock and you got to wash it and sift it and sluice it.

00:25:32.000 Load gold you've got to crush to get the gold out of the rock.

00:25:36.000 And so from the moment of discovery until you produce it out of that gold mine, it takes average 29 years.

00:25:45.000 Whoa!

00:25:46.000 29 years to go from finding it to having an operating gold mine.

00:25:51.000 Or copper mine, or lead mine, or silver mine, or zinc mine.

00:25:54.000 Wow!

00:25:57.000 That's crazy!

00:25:59.000 What's really interesting, too, in this country is the story of the gold miners, like the San Francisco 49ers, the people that came across the country when they found out that they had struck gold.

00:26:11.000 And that must have been a really wild time, a fucking dangerous time, too.

00:26:16.000 Because you have the lawless West, and then you have a bunch of people who are just desperados who are pulling gold out of the ground.

00:26:23.000 And that guy might have pulled enough gold out of the ground to literally...

00:26:28.000 Pay for the rest of your life.

00:26:29.000 And he's right there.

00:26:30.000 And no one's around.

00:26:32.000 I know a couple guys, you couldn't tell they could rub two sticks together.

00:26:36.000 A good friend of mine bought a bank.

00:26:41.000 Because the bank had a big vault.

00:26:44.000 He had three tons of gold that he was like a collector, a hoarder.

00:26:49.000 Jesus Christ.

00:26:50.000 He'd been mining for 40 years.

00:26:52.000 What is three tons of gold worth?

00:26:54.000 A lot.

00:26:55.000 What is that worth, Jamie?

00:26:56.000 This is crazy.

00:26:57.000 Let's guess.

00:26:58.000 Take a guess.

00:26:59.000 I'm so dumb.

00:27:00.000 I don't even know what that means.

00:27:01.000 Three tons of gold.

00:27:03.000 You've got to remember, there's a difference between a...

00:27:05.000 If I was to ask you what weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of gold, what would you tell me?

00:27:10.000 A pound is a pound.

00:27:12.000 You'd be wrong, because there's 16 ounces in a pound of feathers, and there's 12 ounces, different ounces, in a pound of gold.

00:27:20.000 How come?

00:27:21.000 Just the way it is.

00:27:23.000 So when you buy a pound of gold, you're not getting 16 ounces?

00:27:26.000 You're getting 12 troy ounces.

00:27:29.000 What nationality invented that?

00:27:34.000 I don't want to go full Kanye here.

00:27:37.000 The value of three tons of gold depends on the current market value of gold, which is constantly changing.

00:27:42.000 As of now, 2023, one ton of pure 24 karat gold was worth about $55 million.

00:27:48.000 Wow.

00:27:49.000 This dude had three tons of gold.

00:27:52.000 He had $160 million.

00:27:56.000 $165 million in gold just laying around.

00:27:59.000 That's what him and his wife did.

00:28:00.000 That was what they did.

00:28:02.000 That is so nuts.

00:28:03.000 So this was just pure gold?

00:28:05.000 Or did he have it made into ingots?

00:28:06.000 It's placer gold.

00:28:07.000 It's the kind of we have.

00:28:09.000 He was on my ground.

00:28:10.000 And he would melt it and refine it if you wanted to get 24 karat.

00:28:14.000 But it generally runs about 85% pure in its form on my creeks.

00:28:19.000 So if you found a one-ounce nugget, 85% of that's probably 24 karat.

00:28:24.000 What's the biggest nugget you've ever found?

00:28:26.000 33 ounces.

00:28:28.000 Whoa!

00:28:29.000 What does that look like?

00:28:31.000 It looks like a whale, actually.

00:28:33.000 How big is it?

00:28:34.000 Like, in your hand?

00:28:35.000 I got a picture of it on my page.

00:28:37.000 My daughter's holding it.

00:28:38.000 Like an old-school flip phone?

00:28:41.000 About that big?

00:28:42.000 It's almost as big.

00:28:43.000 Almost as big as a cell phone?

00:28:44.000 Like an iPhone?

00:28:46.000 Almost?

00:28:46.000 Like half of it?

00:28:49.000 Seven-eighths.

00:28:50.000 Really?

00:28:51.000 Yeah.

00:28:52.000 Damn.

00:28:52.000 If you hold it one way, it looks like a whale.

00:28:54.000 You flip it over, it looks like a dolphin.

00:28:56.000 And now how much is a piece of gold like that worth right now?

00:28:58.000 Well, because it looks like something.

00:29:00.000 It's called character.

00:29:02.000 Oh.

00:29:02.000 So if you have a nugget that looks like a whale or a dolphin, it generally goes for four or five times world market.

00:29:09.000 Really?

00:29:10.000 So if gold is $3,000 an ounce, that would be $12,000 to $15,000 for that character that you're buying.

00:29:18.000 If you find a nugget that looks like a heart, no limit.

00:29:22.000 Really?

00:29:23.000 Yeah.

00:29:24.000 Suckers.

00:29:24.000 Bunch of suckers out there.

00:29:25.000 What about one that looks like a demon?

00:29:28.000 That's big money.

00:29:29.000 If you find one that looks like a pile of dog shit, you're going to get spot market.

00:29:33.000 Yeah, you've got to find one that looks like a skull.

00:29:36.000 Oh, you find a skull.

00:29:37.000 Oh, boy.

00:29:38.000 Oh, they'll be knocking your door.

00:29:39.000 Oh, the real nutty ones.

00:29:41.000 They'll be looking for the dude.

00:29:42.000 The rich occultists would want it.

00:29:45.000 Part of their collection.

00:29:46.000 But every little nugget has some kind of, or bigger nugget has some kind of character that you keep looking for.

00:29:51.000 Like, what's this look like?

00:29:52.000 That makes sense.

00:29:53.000 That makes sense.

00:29:54.000 Did you study the history of gold mining in this country before you got involved?

00:29:59.000 Not really.

00:30:00.000 No?

00:30:00.000 No.

00:30:01.000 I've been gold mining, and I knew how to do it.

00:30:04.000 It wasn't worth a shit, but I'm getting better at it.

00:30:09.000 But it's a crazy way to make a living.

00:30:13.000 You know, you're pulling.

00:30:14.000 The most precious thing, like the thing that's probably, other than diamonds, which is kind of manufactured, right?

00:30:20.000 There's probably a lot more diamonds than the value suggests.

00:30:23.000 Don't they, like, hoard them up so that, like, it keeps the price high?

00:30:27.000 They do that, right?

00:30:28.000 Very smart.

00:30:29.000 Yeah, De Beers controls.

00:30:30.000 What nationality does that?

00:30:32.000 De Beers.

00:30:34.000 But you bring up an interesting point.

00:30:37.000 The history of gold mining.

00:30:38.000 Yeah.

00:30:39.000 People don't even know how entrenched in our everyday lingo.

00:30:43.000 Gold mining terms are.

00:30:45.000 I'll give you an example.

00:30:46.000 Struck it rich?

00:30:47.000 Struck it rich.

00:30:49.000 He hit the mother load.

00:30:51.000 Right.

00:30:52.000 He doesn't know the difference between shit and Shinola.

00:30:55.000 Oh, what's that?

00:30:56.000 Shit and Shinola is gold.

00:30:58.000 Really?

00:30:59.000 You can't tell the difference between shit and Shinola.

00:31:01.000 I thought it was like poop versus shoe polish.

00:31:06.000 Shinola is gold.

00:31:08.000 Isn't Shinola shoe polish?

00:31:09.000 I don't know.

00:31:10.000 I never had a pair of shoes that had Shinola.

00:31:12.000 I think Shinola is a shoe polish.

00:31:14.000 Jamie, don't turn it on.

00:31:16.000 I'm just kidding.

00:31:17.000 I'm 90% sure Shinola is a shoe.

00:31:20.000 But I don't know which one came first.

00:31:21.000 Like, Shinola might have come after the gold term.

00:31:24.000 You know, it might be a recent corporation.

00:31:25.000 Could be.

00:31:26.000 But I think Shinola is like an old school one.

00:31:29.000 Like, I kind of, I mean, maybe I'm having a fake memory, but I kind of remember of it in high school.

00:31:34.000 Like, shoe polish.

00:31:35.000 But after today, now you know it's gold.

00:31:38.000 Now, well, in gold rush terms, gold, like every culture has its own little lingo, right?

00:31:46.000 Is it a shoe polish, Jamie?

00:31:48.000 It is?

00:31:49.000 How long has it been around?

00:31:52.000 They could have stole that from gold.

00:31:55.000 Going bust.

00:31:56.000 Going bust.

00:31:57.000 I thought that was a gambling term.

00:32:00.000 I thought that was, but it could be both, right?

00:32:04.000 Probably.

00:32:05.000 I mean, it's...

00:32:06.000 Those kind of things in our language, like pay dirt.

00:32:10.000 Right.

00:32:11.000 You hit pay dirt.

00:32:12.000 Right.

00:32:13.000 Right.

00:32:14.000 You hit gold in the dirt.

00:32:16.000 The way I've heard shit in Shinola is shits.

00:32:19.000 Shits.

00:32:21.000 Shits.

00:32:24.000 Bedrock schist.

00:32:25.000 Sorry.

00:32:26.000 Oh, I see.

00:32:27.000 Schist in Shinola.

00:32:29.000 Oh.

00:32:29.000 Schist.

00:32:30.000 My gold is found in schist.

00:32:32.000 That actually makes more sense than shit in Shinola.

00:32:35.000 You can't tell the difference between shit and shoe polish.

00:32:38.000 Don't you smell it?

00:32:40.000 Right?

00:32:41.000 I ain't never seen a shoe with shoe polish.

00:32:43.000 Really?

00:32:44.000 You've never seen a shoe with shoe polish?

00:32:45.000 I actually had to wear them in high school.

00:32:48.000 My parents put me in a reform school.

00:32:50.000 I have to wear them when I dress up.

00:32:52.000 I wear polished shoes.

00:32:53.000 I saw you dressed up here recently.

00:32:55.000 I dress up.

00:32:56.000 I look like a monkey with a suit on.

00:32:59.000 That's what I look like when I get dressed up.

00:33:01.000 You look pretty sharp when I saw what you were wearing.

00:33:03.000 I feel like a fraud whenever I wear a suit.

00:33:05.000 Like, what are you doing?

00:33:06.000 What is this thing you're wearing?

00:33:11.000 You look pretty good.

00:33:12.000 Thank you very much.

00:33:13.000 Thank you.

00:33:14.000 Yeah, it's hard for me.

00:33:16.000 I shop at the same place Fetterman Shops.

00:33:20.000 Fetterman's an animal.

00:33:21.000 He goes to the fucking inauguration in a pair of shorts and a hoodie.

00:33:24.000 I like that.

00:33:24.000 He's got a Carhartt hoodie on and a pair of shorts and didn't give a fuck.

00:33:28.000 And he's a genuine guy.

00:33:30.000 He's a very nice guy.

00:33:31.000 Yeah, I kind of like the guy.

00:33:33.000 I like the guy a lot.

00:33:34.000 I saw him when I was there.

00:33:36.000 I gave him a hug, talked to him.

00:33:38.000 He was very friendly.

00:33:39.000 I don't like that he said no.

00:33:41.000 He's going to vote no on Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. I think that's terrible.

00:33:45.000 But I'm biased, obviously.

00:33:47.000 I like both of them very much.

00:33:49.000 And they're both in, if I'm not mistaken.

00:33:51.000 I don't know how this works, man.

00:33:52.000 I'm confused about this whole process.

00:33:55.000 I'm confused about what's legal, what's not legal, what you can and can't do, what these executive orders can and can't do.

00:34:01.000 I'm confused how they closed the problem at the border down in three days.

00:34:05.000 They just basically, like, completely put a stop to all the illegal coming in except for, like, 100 people a day.

00:34:11.000 It was thousands a day!

00:34:13.000 It was just an overrun of people coming through every day.

00:34:16.000 And they stopped it.

00:34:18.000 And he said you couldn't stop it.

00:34:19.000 He negotiated with Canada and with Mexico to ramp up their border, stop the fentanyl from coming in.

00:34:25.000 Like, all this stuff seems so common sense.

00:34:28.000 And it's just amazing to me that people don't look at that.

00:34:32.000 No one is going to trust you if all you talk about is the bad side from the other side.

00:34:38.000 If you don't say this is good, this is good for all of us.

00:34:42.000 If you don't say that, are you rooting against America?

00:34:46.000 Because when good things happen, do you not want them to happen because a Republican is president?

00:34:51.000 Because that's a very un-American way to look at things.

00:34:54.000 I think that's where we're at these days.

00:34:56.000 I think there's a giant chunk of our population that is so wrapped up in these social media squabbles and owning people online and talking shit and listening to videos and TikToks.

00:35:06.000 They're so wrapped up in this us versus them shit that they can't see that we're supposed to all be in this together.

00:35:11.000 And even if you don't like that guy.

00:35:13.000 If Trump gets in and he does something that's awesome for the country, you should say that's awesome for the country.

00:35:18.000 Yeah, it's really good that terrorists aren't sneaking into our southern border.

00:35:21.000 That's really good.

00:35:22.000 It's really good that they find all the fucking criminals that are taking over apartment buildings in Aurora, Colorado, and root them out.

00:35:29.000 Yeah, that's really good.

00:35:30.000 They should deport them.

00:35:31.000 Yeah, they're fucking criminals.

00:35:33.000 We shouldn't have to deal with that.

00:35:34.000 Yeah, maybe we should fix everything that's going on in North Carolina.

00:35:37.000 Yeah, that's good for everybody.

00:35:39.000 It's like these things are common sense.

00:35:42.000 That's because it's gotten so bad now that the only reason to run for politics used to be to make the money, not just get re-elected.

00:35:51.000 That's the first thing they try to do when they get elected is start getting re-elected.

00:35:55.000 They're making so much money.

00:35:56.000 That's what's crazy.

00:35:57.000 Look at the money.

00:35:58.000 When you look at the amount of money some of those congresspeople are worth and you're like, you tell me how.

00:36:06.000 You tell me how.

00:36:07.000 You make $180,000 a year and you're worth $30 million.

00:36:10.000 You tell me how.

00:36:12.000 You tell me how.

00:36:13.000 I can't find a way that makes any sense because you should be really busy, right?

00:36:19.000 So if you should be really busy doing this $180,000 a year job, who has time to have a side hustle that pays you 10 times more?

00:36:30.000 Who has time?

00:36:32.000 Who's doing that?

00:36:35.000 That's the only reason I can think of that people would want to get into that game.

00:36:39.000 Well I think a lot of people like being the boss.

00:36:41.000 There's a lot of that.

00:36:42.000 And a lot of people just want to be that person.

00:36:46.000 And when you're in a competition, a hierarchy-based status competition, like the President of the United States, everybody wants to be in that spot where everybody calls you sir and everybody shakes your hand and foreign leaders want to meet.

00:36:59.000 You want to feel important.

00:37:00.000 They all do.

00:37:01.000 They can pretend they don't.

00:37:02.000 They all like it.

00:37:03.000 That's why they do it.

00:37:04.000 Otherwise, they wouldn't want their whole life exposed like that and digging into your past and distortions of your character and outright lies, anything to destroy you all.

00:37:13.000 If they weren't the person that wants that spot, they wouldn't do it.

00:37:17.000 That's why we don't get good leaders.

00:37:19.000 We don't get people who you would, like, really want to do it, other than Trump.

00:37:25.000 And with that guy, it's like he's kind of a psycho.

00:37:28.000 Yeah, he doesn't need the money.

00:37:30.000 He's not doing it for the money.

00:37:31.000 Well, I'm sure it helps that you can make money doing it, you know, not from the salary, but from a lot of other stuff.

00:37:37.000 Like, it elevates his...

00:37:40.000 His social profile, for sure.

00:37:42.000 It makes him more popular, which is part of the brand of Donald Trump.

00:37:46.000 But, like, didn't he famously not even get a paycheck?

00:37:49.000 Yeah.

00:37:49.000 He donates his check to some organization.

00:37:52.000 That's fucking amazing.

00:37:53.000 And then this other thing about Elon.

00:37:55.000 Elon's going to steal everybody's money.

00:37:56.000 He has $400 billion.

00:37:59.000 I'm telling you, he's not going to steal your money.

00:38:01.000 I'm telling you, that's not what he's doing.

00:38:02.000 What he's doing is, he's a super genius that's been fucked with.

00:38:07.000 And when you've been fucked with by these nitwits that hide behind three-letter agencies, and you're dealing with one of the smartest people alive, and he helps Donald Trump get into office, and he goes, I want to find out what kind of corruption is really around.

00:38:20.000 Well, you fucked up.

00:38:21.000 You fucked up and picked the wrong psychopath on the spectrum because he's going to hunt you down.

00:38:27.000 He's going to find out what's going on.

00:38:29.000 And that's good.

00:38:30.000 That's good for everybody.

00:38:31.000 That's how you should be looking at this.

00:38:33.000 Like, wow, we have a brilliant mind that is examining these really fucking corrupt and goofy systems and bringing in a bunch of psychopath wizards.

00:38:44.000 Yeah, well, AOC is the one that says he's...

00:38:47.000 He's the most unintelligent person she's ever met.

00:38:50.000 Did she really say that?

00:38:50.000 She really said that.

00:38:51.000 Wow.

00:38:51.000 I want to meet her friends.

00:38:52.000 They're probably cool.

00:38:54.000 Imagine the conversation you'd have with her friends.

00:38:56.000 If he's the most unintelligent person she's ever met, wow, her friends must be amazing.

00:39:02.000 I want to go to one of those parties.

00:39:03.000 It's probably just like fascinating person after fascinating person.

00:39:07.000 Well, I wonder what she's worth.

00:39:08.000 And Nancy Pelosi, I think, is way up there in a multiple, multiple million.

00:39:12.000 Well, she's psychic.

00:39:14.000 I don't know if you know this.

00:39:15.000 She's really good at the stock market, like basically.

00:39:18.000 She meditates and she just sees it.

00:39:20.000 She sees how it's going to happen.

00:39:22.000 She should teach that, huh?

00:39:24.000 There's a few honest ones.

00:39:26.000 Sure.

00:39:27.000 There's plenty of honest, just like there's plenty of teachers who don't get students drunk.

00:39:34.000 The problem is not the honest ones.

00:39:37.000 The problem is the ones that aren't honest.

00:39:39.000 And there's a ton of them and they don't get rooted out because the system is so corrupt.

00:39:43.000 Probably one of the most unintelligent billionaires I've ever met, seen, or witnessed.

00:39:49.000 That's from AOC. Well, you know, this guy's one of the most morally vacant, but also just least knowledgeable about these systems that we know of, she said.

00:39:59.000 Wow.

00:40:00.000 She used to own a Tesla car.

00:40:01.000 Damn, she don't own a Tesla anymore.

00:40:04.000 Has a history of public disagreements with Mr. Musk, particularly over his Department of Government Efficiency.

00:40:09.000 This team has been examining government spending, which has drawn sharp criticism from Democrats.

00:40:14.000 Last week, Doge gained access to federal payment systems to help with its review, a move that many Democrats viewed as controversial.

00:40:21.000 Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was particularly critical of the involvement of young staffers, saying they don't do their homework clearly, and adding that 19-year-olds were being placed in key positions at the Treasury Department.

00:40:32.000 I love it.

00:40:34.000 Get those internet wizards on the case.

00:40:37.000 Only he would do that because he understands internet culture.

00:40:40.000 And he understands geniuses.

00:40:42.000 He understands a lot of these people have like these super brains.

00:40:44.000 They're 19. Like one of those kids, he was from Omaha.

00:40:48.000 He figured out a way to use AI to decode burnt scrolls.

00:40:53.000 My son, Kenzie, works for Palo Alto.

00:40:56.000 He's got a master's degree in cybersecurity.

00:41:00.000 He's working on another one, a master's in AI. Oh, wow.

00:41:04.000 And after talking to him and seeing what he's doing, he did his master's thesis on hacking satellites.

00:41:13.000 And when I heard that, I thought, you know, that puts a whole new light on Bitcoin for me.

00:41:20.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:21.000 I'm going, I like gold.

00:41:23.000 It's in your hand.

00:41:24.000 You can see it.

00:41:25.000 You can hold it.

00:41:25.000 You can feel it.

00:41:26.000 But here, I brought you some Bitcoin sketch.

00:41:29.000 I just threw you 20 of them.

00:41:31.000 Well, as soon as you have real quantum computing where they can run actual programs on it, you're not going to have encryption anymore.

00:41:40.000 Or you're going to have to have some new kind of encryption that we never anticipated before, like maybe turn on and off.

00:41:46.000 It's going to have to be something that the computer doesn't have access to somehow or another, maybe possibly independent of a system.

00:41:54.000 Independent of a system, how would it even communicate with you?

00:41:58.000 If it's electronic, if it has Wi-Fi, it's gonna get into it.

00:42:02.000 You're not gonna be able to stop.

00:42:04.000 Something that's infinitely more intelligent than any human being from deciphering any kind of goofy-ass encryption you have, some fucking stupid Apple complex password that it picked for you.

00:42:14.000 See, I just don't understand it.

00:42:17.000 I mean, for two years, Bitcoin went after the gold miners.

00:42:20.000 Well, that's dumb.

00:42:22.000 Why would you invest in gold when you can invest in Bitcoin?

00:42:26.000 I don't have a problem with Bitcoin.

00:42:27.000 I mean, the guys that are making money on it are making bank.

00:42:30.000 They're doing great.

00:42:31.000 I'm telling you, we need a boneyard.

00:42:33.000 We need a boneyard coin.

00:42:35.000 We do.

00:42:35.000 How about a boneyard coin?

00:42:37.000 Just don't do a pump and dump.

00:42:38.000 That's the key.

00:42:39.000 You can have your own money.

00:42:41.000 Jamie and I have been talking about it.

00:42:42.000 Can we make it out of gold?

00:42:45.000 Real ones?

00:42:46.000 Yeah, we could.

00:42:46.000 One penny weight coins.

00:42:48.000 There's 20 penny weights in an ounce.

00:42:50.000 And there's an opening right now because Trump just banned the penny.

00:42:53.000 It's about time.

00:42:55.000 Each one of those pennies is worth about six cents.

00:42:57.000 Two cents.

00:42:57.000 It costs us two cents to make each penny.

00:42:59.000 To make it, yeah, but the copper itself.

00:43:01.000 Oh, really?

00:43:01.000 Oh, yeah, you've got to mine it.

00:43:03.000 Really?

00:43:04.000 So each penny is worth six cents?

00:43:05.000 I'm going to say five cents.

00:43:07.000 Wow.

00:43:07.000 Because he added two cents to it.

00:43:09.000 So you actually could profit from melting pennies.

00:43:12.000 People have been collecting pennies for a long time.

00:43:14.000 Right, but melting them down to sell it for raw copper is actually profitable.

00:43:17.000 What's the price of copper these days?

00:43:19.000 And you can figure out how many pennies makes a pound.

00:43:23.000 I remember when I was doing construction, one of the sites that one of the guys had got robbed, where they stole all the copper pipes.

00:43:30.000 And I was like, what?

00:43:31.000 How much is copper worth?

00:43:33.000 It's worth a lot.

00:43:33.000 I would have never imagined that.

00:43:37.000 U.S. pennies were made of 2.5% copper and 97.5% zinc.

00:43:43.000 That's the modern penny.

00:43:44.000 A penny contains a small amount of copper that's plated on top of a zinc base.

00:43:49.000 Oh, interesting.

00:43:49.000 Yeah, but that's today's penny.

00:43:51.000 From 1982, they were made in 95% copper.

00:43:55.000 Yep.

00:43:55.000 Okay, so in the 80s, they were real pennies.

00:43:58.000 So if you get one of them old pennies, that's a valuable penny.

00:44:00.000 The way a penny determines it's copper or zinc.

00:44:02.000 A copper penny weighs 3.11 grams, while a zinc penny weighs 2.5.

00:44:08.000 Interesting.

00:44:09.000 Yeah, coins are weird.

00:44:11.000 Like, enough of that.

00:44:12.000 I know it's stupid because you are a part of the system and you can't control it, but I love paying for things with my phone.

00:44:19.000 I love going, looking in my face and pressing on the register and thank you.

00:44:23.000 I see you guys do it all the time.

00:44:24.000 I don't know how to do it.

00:44:25.000 I love it.

00:44:26.000 I feel like I'm living in the future.

00:44:28.000 It's so irrational.

00:44:30.000 It's my favorite thing to do is to pay for shit with my phone.

00:44:32.000 I would pay for everything with my phone if I could.

00:44:34.000 I used to in Jacksonville.

00:44:36.000 Just use your face, touch it, and it pays for the...

00:44:39.000 I love...

00:44:40.000 I'm so stupid.

00:44:41.000 I love the little check that comes up.

00:44:43.000 Oh, yay!

00:44:43.000 I paid for it.

00:44:44.000 You go through a drive-thru to get food, and you see the guy in front of you aiming his phone at somebody inside.

00:44:49.000 Right.

00:44:50.000 You don't see any cash flying around.

00:44:51.000 Right.

00:44:52.000 It's weird.

00:44:52.000 It is weird.

00:44:53.000 It's weird because, like, who's controlling it?

00:44:55.000 And if...

00:44:56.000 You have the same sort of oversight that you had with all the stuff that Doge is showing, where it's all this corruption and waste and a hundred billion dollars is missing from Ukraine and like, what did you do?

00:45:08.000 How much money did you spend on these fucking charging stations and how many of you made?

00:45:12.000 All that kind of stuff.

00:45:13.000 If you look at all, if that's all applied to money too, and it's digital money, like how do I know where you have it if you even have it, right?

00:45:21.000 Because this is part of the problem with money in banks.

00:45:24.000 That they don't really have all the money that you put in there.

00:45:28.000 Like if you put in $10 million to a bank, guess what?

00:45:31.000 They don't have $10 million to give you.

00:45:32.000 Like if you say, I want my $10 million back.

00:45:34.000 That's a process.

00:45:36.000 You have to get it.

00:45:37.000 They're going to really try to discourage you.

00:45:39.000 You can't get it that day.

00:45:42.000 A lot of things have to happen.

00:45:43.000 If you show up at a bank, and you're fucking Jeff Bezos or something, where they're not worried about where it came from, and you want to deposit $10 million, and you have a fucking bag, and you're wheeling in on a luggage cart, and it's $10 million, and they count it, and they put it in there.

00:45:57.000 Yeah, but it's not there anymore.

00:45:59.000 They're going to loan that out.

00:46:00.000 They're going to do stuff with it.

00:46:02.000 They don't have it right there.

00:46:03.000 Yeah, no.

00:46:04.000 No, it's all weird.

00:46:06.000 The whole economy is weird.

00:46:08.000 Everything's weird.

00:46:10.000 Because since we went off the gold standard, it's like, what is it based on?

00:46:14.000 And how do you guys just print more of it every time you need something?

00:46:17.000 Every time you want to do something, just print more?

00:46:19.000 I'm old enough to know and remember, if you were in a bank and a guy walks in wearing a fucking mask, usually you had to hit the floor.

00:46:29.000 Right.

00:46:31.000 There's a bank I go to in Jacksonville, and we walk in the bank and the tellers are wearing masks.

00:46:36.000 I'm going, this ain't right.

00:46:37.000 Like, what are you wearing a mask for?

00:46:39.000 Well, they're mentally ill.

00:46:40.000 What are you wearing a mask for?

00:46:42.000 Well, I think a lot of people weren't really doing well before COVID, you know?

00:46:48.000 There's a lot of people that are fragile.

00:46:49.000 They're barely hanging on already.

00:46:51.000 You know, a lot of people are, like, really anxious about diseases.

00:46:54.000 I have friends that are like that.

00:46:56.000 I know a few guys in the comedy community that really cracked during that time because they were already filled with anxiety, and some of them were already hypo-contracts, and they cracked.

00:47:07.000 And they're not the same people anymore.

00:47:09.000 People don't want to hang out with them anymore.

00:47:10.000 They're weird.

00:47:11.000 They're just broken.

00:47:12.000 And they wear masks everywhere.

00:47:14.000 This one bank I went to, teller's wearing a mask.

00:47:18.000 The next teller over is not wearing a mask.

00:47:19.000 She's probably a Republican.

00:47:22.000 That's what it is.

00:47:22.000 It's a MAGA hat.

00:47:24.000 It's a Democrats MAGA hat.

00:47:27.000 And you see them driving around with a mask on.

00:47:29.000 That's my favorite.

00:47:30.000 Well, they might as well have fox ears on.

00:47:33.000 They're mentally ill.

00:47:34.000 And when we're out on the field, we're out mining, got a lot of dust flying around.

00:47:38.000 We have masks on.

00:47:40.000 Yeah, but that's a big difference.

00:47:42.000 Yeah, it is.

00:47:42.000 Fucking invisible viruses as you're driving your car.

00:47:45.000 By the way, I think fox ears are more noble.

00:47:47.000 Because if you put little fox ears on, you're like one of those furries.

00:47:50.000 At least you're just having a good time.

00:47:51.000 You know?

00:47:52.000 You're just having a good time.

00:47:53.000 You like wearing fox ears.

00:47:54.000 Who gives a shit?

00:47:55.000 The mask is just stupid.

00:47:57.000 It's just, what do you like?

00:47:58.000 Smelling your own breath?

00:47:59.000 What do you like?

00:48:00.000 Not being able to breathe as good?

00:48:01.000 What do you like?

00:48:02.000 Pretending that viruses can't get through those fucking gaping holes that are all around the outside of your face and through the fabric, which is the reason why you can breathe in the first place, you fucking idiot.

00:48:12.000 Well, we made a bunch of masks with my logo on it.

00:48:16.000 So, you know, you're wearing one of these logos on your face.

00:48:18.000 Face like that.

00:48:19.000 That's funny.

00:48:20.000 Go fuck yourself.

00:48:21.000 We had JRE masks that we were selling during the pandemic.

00:48:25.000 And Sanjay Gupta brought one in like it was a gotcha.

00:48:28.000 Like, you sell masks.

00:48:30.000 Like, yeah, because people have to wear them.

00:48:31.000 Not because they make sense.

00:48:34.000 They don't make any sense.

00:48:35.000 You know they don't make sense.

00:48:37.000 Shut the fuck up.

00:48:38.000 That was one of the weirdest beginnings of COVID when I started really wondering how anybody could believe that this stupid surgical mask, which is supposed to stop like driplets of spit and food from your mouth dropping into a wound as you're operating, they're not supposed to protect you from viruses.

00:48:55.000 That's not what they're there for.

00:48:57.000 The fact that people started wearing those, and then some people were just wearing bandanas.

00:49:02.000 And my favorite, which is maybe the dumbest of all time, people would wear that shield.

00:49:07.000 So it's open air.

00:49:08.000 Open air.

00:49:09.000 All this is open.

00:49:10.000 And then there's a shield.

00:49:11.000 And they would be walking down the street with a fucking shield over their face.

00:49:15.000 This is mental illness.

00:49:17.000 That's all this is.

00:49:18.000 This is people responding to stress that they can't handle and they're freaking out.

00:49:24.000 That's all this is.

00:49:24.000 This isn't normal.

00:49:25.000 And the more we allow this, the more we rationalize this, and the more we enable this by not telling them they're fucking ridiculous.

00:49:34.000 Take your goddamn mask off when you come into the store.

00:49:36.000 No, you can't come into the store like you're going to rob it.

00:49:38.000 It's 2025. Take that fucking stupid thing off.

00:49:41.000 And the more you allow people to just continue with this...

00:49:45.000 They get in these social groups on Twitter and they talk about the power of the mask and I feel so much better when I'm wearing a mask and I'm being safer for others and they all agree with each other.

00:49:56.000 I'm like, you should be in an asylum.

00:49:59.000 You should all go to Alaska and see what bears look like in the flesh.

00:50:03.000 You should go salmon fishing.

00:50:05.000 Get the fuck outside your house.

00:50:06.000 You're sick.

00:50:08.000 Well, you know, I don't want to put a mask on because I'm pretty good-looking and shit.

00:50:12.000 I hear you, bro.

00:50:13.000 Yeah, you know the problem.

00:50:14.000 I hear you, yeah.

00:50:15.000 Jamie's pretty good-looking, too.

00:50:16.000 Also, you're a giant.

00:50:17.000 Like, you with a mask on is scary because it's like, what is he up to?

00:50:19.000 Why is he covering his face?

00:50:21.000 What's his plans?

00:50:22.000 Well, the doctor told me we had lunch with him about a week ago, and he says, the one that told me quit smoking, he goes, when I first saw you, I was wondering, what the hell am I going to do here?

00:50:35.000 Because I'm sitting in there and he has no idea what my ailment is.

00:50:40.000 Right.

00:50:40.000 And so I am a big guy.

00:50:43.000 And the one benefit that came from this is I don't smoke.

00:50:46.000 And I still do the CrossFit, even though you look at me and you can't tell.

00:50:51.000 But I've been doing it for a while.

00:50:53.000 Well, that's great.

00:50:54.000 Yeah, it is.

00:50:54.000 That's more important, really, than anything.

00:50:56.000 I would say if I had to choose between one thing that you should do to make yourself healthy, I would say exercise.

00:51:01.000 Maybe even over food.

00:51:03.000 I'd say maybe it's close.

00:51:05.000 It's real close.

00:51:06.000 Food's probably maybe.

00:51:07.000 But no, you've got to exercise too.

00:51:09.000 They're almost like cancel each other out.

00:51:12.000 Or equal, rather.

00:51:14.000 My trainer, Megan, was telling me that there's a difference between sick care and health care.

00:51:20.000 And I said, what is it?

00:51:21.000 She goes, well, sick care is when you're sick, you go to the doctor.

00:51:26.000 Healthcare is your exercise.

00:51:28.000 All the things you do to keep yourself healthy.

00:51:31.000 You don't want to be sick.

00:51:33.000 Right.

00:51:33.000 And we're not paying attention to the healthcare part.

00:51:37.000 You're right.

00:51:37.000 So we got to get you fit.

00:51:39.000 I'm trying.

00:51:40.000 Got to get you fit.

00:51:40.000 Got to get you dieting.

00:51:42.000 I do.

00:51:42.000 We just got to get you to eat only meat.

00:51:44.000 Try that.

00:51:45.000 Is that what they call the keto?

00:51:47.000 Carnivore.

00:51:47.000 Carnivore?

00:51:48.000 Carnivore diet.

00:51:49.000 I could do that one.

00:51:49.000 That's the move.

00:51:50.000 I'm telling you.

00:51:51.000 Are you doing that one?

00:51:52.000 Yeah, I do that.

00:51:53.000 Whenever I do that, I feel way better.

00:51:54.000 I do it like in sprints because I'm Italian, and Italians love pizza and pasta.

00:52:00.000 I love that shit.

00:52:01.000 If I go to New York, I'm breaking my diet.

00:52:02.000 I'm going to get sandwiches for my man Giovanni's Deli.

00:52:06.000 I'm going to eat Italian food.

00:52:07.000 I'm going to go off.

00:52:08.000 I need it.

00:52:09.000 Every now and then, I just want to have it just for the...

00:52:12.000 Are you glad to have eggs on that one?

00:52:14.000 Yeah, you could have eggs.

00:52:15.000 I eat eggs all the time.

00:52:16.000 The whole idea is you're only eating animal products.

00:52:20.000 I don't eat anything else other than some fruit.

00:52:23.000 I'll eat like an orange or a banana here and there.

00:52:26.000 I'll have some blueberries with some yogurt.

00:52:28.000 But the idea is what you're really doing is mostly eating meat.

00:52:33.000 And so most of my diet is red meat.

00:52:36.000 And when I eat like that, I feel so much better.

00:52:39.000 I feel clear-headed.

00:52:41.000 I have more energy.

00:52:44.000 It's more stable throughout the day.

00:52:46.000 I feel like my brain functions better.

00:52:49.000 When I eat carbs, I just start getting sloppy.

00:52:52.000 I just start getting slow.

00:52:54.000 It's like, I don't think there's anything wrong with carbohydrates.

00:52:57.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:52:58.000 But I do think that they're really easy to overconsume.

00:53:02.000 And if you're a glutton, which I definitely am, I'm a glutton, I will eat two pizzas.

00:53:07.000 If you give me some fucking good, some really good, like, New York pizzas, I will eat two of those bitches.

00:53:13.000 I will eat until I'm sick.

00:53:15.000 I just have always been like that.

00:53:16.000 I always eat too much food.

00:53:18.000 I have an appetite that just won't stop with pasta.

00:53:23.000 But not with steak.

00:53:25.000 Steak cuts you off.

00:53:26.000 There's a thing about eating protein, steak, things like chicken.

00:53:30.000 You don't eat too much of it.

00:53:32.000 You eat enough and then you stop.

00:53:35.000 They have what's called a high satiety level.

00:53:37.000 Like, high-protein foods have a very high satiety level.

00:53:40.000 And so, like, I'll eat, like, a 16-ounce elk steak.

00:53:43.000 I don't want to have nothing else.

00:53:45.000 I'm good.

00:53:46.000 But if there's spaghetti there, and if there's some fucking macaroni and cheese, you know, if there's potato salad, if there's a little...

00:53:53.000 Then I'll start...

00:53:54.000 I'll keep going.

00:53:54.000 I'll keep eating.

00:53:55.000 And then I'll have way more calories, really, than I need with the same amount of nutrients.

00:54:00.000 The thing is, like, for performance...

00:54:02.000 For, like, athletes, I don't think the carnivore diet's the right way to go.

00:54:06.000 I think you should supplement with...

00:54:07.000 There's nothing wrong with...

00:54:08.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with rice.

00:54:10.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with vegetables.

00:54:13.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with fruit.

00:54:15.000 I think the real problem with a lot of people is pastas and breads and just processed food and garbage.

00:54:25.000 You know, I think we're just eating poison most of the day.

00:54:28.000 I think if you can just eat regular whole food, I think you're better off.

00:54:33.000 But I think you gotta, even now, I think you have to clean your rice.

00:54:36.000 Because I keep hearing shit about rice having glyphosate on it.

00:54:41.000 Is that true?

00:54:43.000 I was reading this thing about rice being a, I know it's the case with corn and wheat.

00:54:50.000 They think that's why some people have what they perceive to be a gluten sensitivity, but they really probably are getting sick from glyphosate, which is so crazy to think.

00:55:01.000 But it sounds nuts, but then they've tested people and they found out the group that they tested, like 90% of them had traceable levels of glyphosate in their blood.

00:55:10.000 Glyphosate drift to rice, a problem for us all.

00:55:12.000 Yeah, here it is.

00:55:13.000 This is from 2011. Fuck.

00:55:19.000 Damage inflicted by derelict glyphosate during this period is often invisible and not noticed until harvest.

00:55:26.000 Damage is characterized by significantly decreased yields and milling in the rice often exhibits the first signal that has been hit with a drift, kernel shaped like a parrot's beak.

00:55:35.000 This is so dark.

00:55:36.000 And then you eat it.

00:55:39.000 Yay!

00:55:40.000 Yay!

00:55:41.000 It's like, you know, the reality is farming, and I'm no farmer, right?

00:55:47.000 Be clear.

00:55:47.000 I don't know what I'm talking about.

00:55:48.000 But I've talked to a bunch of farmers.

00:55:50.000 I've talked to, you know, these guys like Joel Salatin, who runs that Polyface Farms, or Will Harris, who runs White Oak Pastures.

00:55:58.000 These guys who run these regenerative farms, what they're saying makes sense.

00:56:03.000 They're saying the other way is suicide.

00:56:06.000 The other way is bad for the land.

00:56:08.000 It's bad for the people.

00:56:10.000 It's bad for the environment.

00:56:11.000 They're using tons of chemicals.

00:56:13.000 The way to do it is the way nature has been doing it for millions of fucking years.

00:56:17.000 You have a bunch of cows.

00:56:18.000 They shit in the grass.

00:56:20.000 You have a bunch of pigs.

00:56:21.000 They root things up.

00:56:22.000 You have a bunch of chickens.

00:56:23.000 They eat all the bugs.

00:56:24.000 Everybody lives together.

00:56:25.000 Everybody nutrient-rich soil.

00:56:30.000 They're all like a part of this complete...

00:56:34.000 This system, this complete ecological system, and it's carbon neutral.

00:56:39.000 When they raise cows like that, they actually sequester carbon.

00:56:44.000 The question is, can you feed everybody in LA and New York like that?

00:56:48.000 I don't think so.

00:56:49.000 So it's like, what did we do?

00:56:51.000 We got so far ahead of ourselves that it seems like we have this requirement for food that almost demands this kind of crazy farming.

00:56:59.000 That's where it's fucked because if they don't farm like that, if everybody has to go to like a Joel Salatin, Will Harris model, is there enough land to grow enough meat like that?

00:57:09.000 Is there enough land to let all the pigs loose?

00:57:11.000 Is there enough land to have all the chickens just roaming around?

00:57:14.000 Is there enough land for that?

00:57:15.000 I don't know.

00:57:17.000 There's some big farms on the way over that we saw coming across.

00:57:21.000 There's a lot of people eating.

00:57:22.000 There's not a single farm in LA and there's 20 million hungry people just scarfing up food all day long.

00:57:32.000 And you need all these farms out there just constantly making life forms for people to consume.

00:57:39.000 It's really a crazy, crazy thing that we've done.

00:57:43.000 Because we've completely overpopulated areas where they don't grow any food.

00:57:48.000 It's like the dumbest strategy of all time.

00:57:50.000 We rely 100% on transportation.

00:57:53.000 That's right.

00:57:55.000 And, you know, people say, oh, there's a revolution coming.

00:58:00.000 It's here.

00:58:01.000 I mean, the revolution is here.

00:58:04.000 What we're seeing right now is history being made.

00:58:08.000 Because the people that have been...

00:58:10.000 Taken advantage of forever, in my opinion, are the people that are out there producing.

00:58:15.000 The farmers, the miners.

00:58:17.000 Oh, for sure.

00:58:18.000 And the guys that I think really control, have their hand on the throttle of this country, if they ever decide to take their hand off the throttle, is the truckers.

00:58:30.000 Without the truckers, nobody eats.

00:58:32.000 You're right.

00:58:33.000 Nobody.

00:58:34.000 You get nothing.

00:58:35.000 Yeah.

00:58:37.000 Those are the people that are going to suffer the most with AI. AI and automation.

00:58:42.000 Once they have those Tesla trucks that can just drive themselves, they never get into car accidents.

00:58:46.000 Those fucking things are everywhere.

00:58:47.000 You never have to worry about them staying up all night and whether or not they're going to make a mistake behind the wheel.

00:58:52.000 Once they get that totally dialed in, we're going to have a real problem.

00:58:56.000 That's going to be a real problem.

00:58:58.000 Because you're going to have so many people out of work and so many people that are going to say, hey, figure it out.

00:59:02.000 Well, they've been delivering your stuff.

00:59:04.000 You've been depending upon them.

00:59:06.000 Every Amazon package you order, every time you get anything delivered to your house, any time you're moving, any time you're relying on truck drivers, and that job's just going to go away.

00:59:18.000 And that's a lot of people.

00:59:19.000 I think, didn't we look up the number of people that drive trucks or drive, that do, that are drivers, whether it's taxi drivers, I think they put them all together, like people who drive for a living.

00:59:30.000 I think it's more than a million.

00:59:33.000 I think there are more than a million just truck drivers.

00:59:35.000 That's crazy.

00:59:36.000 Like that one invention will put a million people out of work.

00:59:42.000 I don't know.

00:59:42.000 It's going to have to be an awful big truck to handle all the copper.

00:59:45.000 Have you seen those things?

00:59:46.000 Have you seen those Tesla trucks?

00:59:47.000 Not the big ones.

00:59:48.000 They're just the beginning.

00:59:50.000 The ones that they have now are just the beginning.

00:59:52.000 The United States has over 3.5 million professional truck drivers, but the trucking industry is facing a shortage of drivers.

00:59:59.000 Wow.

01:00:00.000 So they need more.

01:00:01.000 They have over 3.5 million and they need more.

01:00:04.000 Google Tesla Semi.

01:00:08.000 This thing's crazy looking.

01:00:10.000 This looks like something straight out of a science fiction movie.

01:00:14.000 It's a giant electric...

01:00:16.000 Go to images.

01:00:20.000 It looks like something out of a fucking science fiction movie.

01:00:23.000 It's a giant electric truck.

01:00:26.000 It makes no noise other than the tire.

01:00:29.000 Like, you hear the tires rolling around the ground.

01:00:32.000 Look at the seat of this fucking thing.

01:00:34.000 Two screens.

01:00:37.000 And it drives itself.

01:00:40.000 And they're going to be really good at driving themselves.

01:00:43.000 Like, right now they're really good, but they're going to be really, really, really good.

01:00:45.000 They're going to be better than people, so they're not going to make any mistakes.

01:00:48.000 And they're going to be safe.

01:00:51.000 And as long as all their sensors are working, and as long as all their equipment is reliable, they'll be better at detecting Accidents and stopping accidents and avoiding things than people are.

01:01:04.000 Elon said today they're going to start the driverless Teslas in Austin in June.

01:01:09.000 Like for taxi cabs?

01:01:10.000 Yeah.

01:01:11.000 Bro, how long before they get attacked by the free Palestine people?

01:01:18.000 That's the other thing we found out through all this Doge stuff.

01:01:20.000 How much of this stuff that you see that you think is organic, these riots and protests, how much of that is funded?

01:01:27.000 How much are we paying for the decisions that are costing us that?

01:01:33.000 Like, how much?

01:01:34.000 We're spending money to, like, $27 million went to the George Soros DA fund.

01:01:40.000 That's so crazy.

01:01:41.000 That's more than he puts in.

01:01:44.000 We were paying to get shitty DAs elected.

01:01:47.000 It's nuts.

01:01:48.000 And anybody who doesn't think it's nuts, it's like, listen, you're not paying attention.

01:01:52.000 You're captured.

01:01:53.000 You must be captured by...

01:01:55.000 And this is not saying that USA doesn't do good things.

01:01:58.000 I'm sure they do.

01:01:59.000 But the amount of things that they do that are ridiculous should concern you.

01:02:03.000 And if it doesn't concern you, we're talking nonsense.

01:02:07.000 We're not having a real conversation.

01:02:09.000 That's what I don't get about the blues and the reds.

01:02:11.000 Yeah.

01:02:12.000 There's got to be some people on the blues side that go, it's a good idea that we're doing this.

01:02:16.000 Yeah.

01:02:17.000 What he's doing is a good idea because we're squandering a lot of money.

01:02:20.000 There's a lot of people like that, but they're quiet because the blues will come for you.

01:02:25.000 I don't know if you noticed, but after the election, at least in my opinion for myself, I had the right to make an opinion again.

01:02:34.000 I could have an opinion.

01:02:35.000 Yes.

01:02:36.000 I can have an opinion.

01:02:36.000 Finally.

01:02:37.000 Finally, I can have an opinion after four fucking years.

01:02:39.000 Isn't that weird?

01:02:40.000 It didn't really feel like that.

01:02:42.000 Like the consciousness of the country was like a rat.

01:02:44.000 Like we're going to rat on you.

01:02:46.000 You couldn't just have fun and talk about things.

01:02:49.000 You couldn't have an opinion that wasn't like right out of mainstream news.

01:02:54.000 You had a 100% toe the line or you were attacked.

01:02:58.000 I put in one post, I put, I have an opinion.

01:03:03.000 I'm going to use it again.

01:03:04.000 I think we should sink every commercial whaling ship in the ocean.

01:03:09.000 Send them to Davy Jones' locker.

01:03:12.000 You get a lot of support behind that.

01:03:14.000 You get a lot of support from the environmental people, too.

01:03:16.000 There's a pushback on that 27 million George Soros stuff.

01:03:20.000 Oh, really?

01:03:20.000 What's the pushback?

01:03:21.000 That it's not true.

01:03:23.000 What do they say?

01:03:24.000 There's a long tweet, if you want me to bring it up.

01:03:26.000 Sure, bring it up.

01:03:27.000 I thought it was 58 million.

01:03:30.000 That's the one on the side of the page here, though.

01:03:32.000 Okay, the claim that Mike Benz establishes in his research is that USAID paid out $27 million in grants to the Tide Foundation.

01:03:41.000 B, the Tide Foundation is a major funder of the Soros-backed group.

01:03:44.000 Fair and just prosecution.

01:03:46.000 Benz frames this as though it's evidence of USAID funding fair and just prosecution.

01:03:53.000 That seems like it is.

01:03:55.000 This framing only works.

01:03:57.000 You have no idea what the Tides Foundation is or how large foundations like it operate.

01:04:01.000 Tides is an intermediary funder, meaning that it facilitates grants from originating granters, the money people to receive grantees, the people getting the money.

01:04:11.000 If you're a big organization like USAID, you don't give money to Tides to do with it what they will.

01:04:16.000 You forward money through tides to a specific recipient of your choosing.

01:04:21.000 Why do you send your money through middlemen instead of giving it directly?

01:04:24.000 For the same reason people always use middlemen to facilitate contracts because middlemen know how to deal with paperwork, to supervise contracts, and so on.

01:04:32.000 Did USA give money to FJP? You can figure that out quickly for yourself.

01:04:36.000 Go to usaspending.gov, set keyword tides, and awarding agency to USAID. Click submit.

01:04:43.000 Go to tab grants tab.

01:04:45.000 You will see four grants.

01:04:46.000 Open each one.

01:04:47.000 The lion's share of USAID's money came to a single grant of $24.6 million.

01:04:52.000 If you click through, you see it is described as a civil society innovation initiative fiscal agent.

01:05:02.000 Read that.

01:05:03.000 That sounds Orwellian.

01:05:05.000 Civil society innovation initiative fiscal agent.

01:05:08.000 The fiscal agent.

01:05:10.000 Description means that the Tide Center acted as a middleman for the government's money.

01:05:14.000 The Civil Society Innovation Initiative was the end recipient.

01:05:20.000 Already, the FJP-USAID link has been broken.

01:05:23.000 But what else can we say about this grant?

01:05:25.000 Well, that doesn't seem like it's been broken.

01:05:27.000 That seems like you've given this money to an agency or to this group.

01:05:34.000 You haven't disproven that this group is attached to Soros.

01:05:37.000 It says, first off, CS2 was awarded the grant in 2016, FJP. The Soros org was founded a year later in 2017. Still doesn't mean they don't work together now, and it doesn't mean that he wasn't a part of the people that were doing it.

01:05:52.000 I'm not saying he is, and I'm not saying he was, but I'm saying this is not disproving anything.

01:05:57.000 As far as I can tell by Googling, there has never been any organizational affiliation between the two organizations.

01:06:03.000 Okay, by Googling?

01:06:06.000 That's it?

01:06:07.000 You just Googled?

01:06:08.000 I want you to Google vaccine injuries and tell me if there's any.

01:06:12.000 Good luck.

01:06:13.000 Good luck.

01:06:14.000 COVID-19 vaccine injuries.

01:06:17.000 Tell me you can decide everything that you need to know about COVID-19 vaccine injuries by a Google search.

01:06:24.000 You're not going to, right?

01:06:25.000 Okay, so by...

01:06:27.000 Googling.

01:06:27.000 There's never been any organizational affiliation between the two organizations.

01:06:31.000 CS2's work appears to be funding civil society organizations, CSOs abroad.

01:06:37.000 What does that mean?

01:06:38.000 As far as I can tell, that's a little vague, it mainly means they give money out to nonprofits in foreign countries to do things like monitor and fight disease spread, monitor human rights abuses.

01:06:50.000 This sounds a little like whitewashing.

01:06:53.000 Promoting digital security and so on.

01:06:55.000 They do only good things, John.

01:06:57.000 They definitely don't get involved in shady characters that are trying to rewrite the way our legal system deals with violent criminals.

01:07:06.000 Nah.

01:07:07.000 I've never understood Soros.

01:07:09.000 I don't get it either.

01:07:11.000 Elon Musk hates him.

01:07:12.000 You know, I have a limited amount of knowledge, but I do know that he spends a lot of money on these, like, super progressive liberal DAs.

01:07:19.000 I don't know whether or not Mike Benz, who's going to be here soon, can really trace that $27 million.

01:07:24.000 I'll ask him.

01:07:26.000 But at the end of the line, it's like, this is all vague.

01:07:29.000 What's that $24 million going to?

01:07:32.000 It might be going to fight diseases.

01:07:35.000 Or sure.

01:07:36.000 Or you don't know.

01:07:37.000 How about you don't know?

01:07:38.000 And all you did was Google whether or not those people know each other?

01:07:41.000 That's crazy.

01:07:42.000 It doesn't mean they do.

01:07:43.000 It doesn't mean it's corrupt.

01:07:45.000 It doesn't mean it goes to Soros funds.

01:07:47.000 You didn't disprove it.

01:07:49.000 Well, that's—anymore, you can't hardly tell what's true.

01:07:51.000 I mean, the rumors that are floating around are—is it AI? Is it true?

01:07:57.000 Is it—what am I looking at?

01:07:59.000 Yeah, a lot of AI stuff.

01:08:01.000 And the rumors—we were talking about rumors on the drive, and I'm going, sometimes you just can't do anything about them.

01:08:08.000 You just got to let them run.

01:08:09.000 And then if you can improve them, if you're involved in it, improve it somehow.

01:08:15.000 To make it a better rumor.

01:08:16.000 One of the most recent rumors, and I was talking to Drew this morning, the rumor that Elon Musk was going to put four commercials on the Super Bowl about Doge and all the fine things they're doing.

01:08:32.000 Yeah.

01:08:32.000 He didn't do that.

01:08:34.000 I wonder if that's even legal.

01:08:36.000 That was fake news.

01:08:37.000 Right, but that seems like if you can make a stylish video...

01:08:43.000 I wonder if that's legal, right?

01:08:46.000 Like, I don't know what the rules are.

01:08:48.000 I don't even know if it should be legal.

01:08:49.000 Like, what are the rules in terms of if you're involved in some sort of a government agency or a government discovery agency, which is like what Doge is, right?

01:09:00.000 If you're involved in that, like...

01:09:02.000 Would you be able to propagandize to the people, even in a positive way, even if it's true, like make a video showing how amazing a job you're doing and do it in a cinematic way that makes it compelling?

01:09:13.000 That seems like a lot of influence, right?

01:09:16.000 Yeah, supposedly he was going to spend $40 million on it or something like that.

01:09:20.000 Yeah, but that's just the internet.

01:09:21.000 I know.

01:09:22.000 It's crazy.

01:09:22.000 I didn't even ask him, and then I went online looking for them.

01:09:27.000 Well, I was thinking at least there's going to be one a quarter.

01:09:31.000 Didn't see one in the first quarter, in the second quarter of the half.

01:09:35.000 And by then the game was kind of over.

01:09:38.000 Well, that's like when everybody thought that JFK Jr. was going to come back to life and show up in Dallas.

01:09:43.000 Yeah.

01:09:46.000 There's a lot of those online that you have to wonder what those are.

01:09:50.000 Because I used to think, oh, there's just some idiot made this up.

01:09:54.000 But now I'm more inclined to think that some of that is just more...

01:10:00.000 Disinformation that's designed to muddy the waters of truth and at the more that the better the more it makes it easy to like move stuff around and you forget about other things like What's Benghazi?

01:10:12.000 I got this to worry about and there's like always some new thing that's popping up everywhere and it's like keep you distracted completely Trump's gonna have four commercials about how you know nothing not one commercial Yeah, I did think it was interesting that Taylor Swift got booed We talked about that.

01:10:30.000 That was crazy.

01:10:31.000 Max and Drew out there was saying it's because 75% of the people were Phillies fans in that stadium.

01:10:38.000 Eh.

01:10:38.000 I don't know.

01:10:39.000 Could be fake news.

01:10:41.000 The dude tweeted, I hate Taylor Swift.

01:10:47.000 Jesus Christ.

01:10:48.000 So ridiculous.

01:10:50.000 Imagine you being the people that are around him and you see that tweet and you're like, oh, fuck.

01:10:55.000 Take his phone away.

01:10:59.000 Satire.

01:10:59.000 The claim about Elon spending $40 million on ads for the Super Bowl originated from the TikTok account Brian Banjo.

01:11:06.000 Brian Banjo is a satire account.

01:11:09.000 Oh, okay.

01:11:10.000 So people just ran with it.

01:11:12.000 There you go.

01:11:13.000 That makes sense.

01:11:16.000 That makes sense.

01:11:17.000 I saw a clip this morning where George Lucas was saying that he filmed the moon landing.

01:11:21.000 Oh.

01:11:22.000 You mean Stanley Kubrick?

01:11:24.000 I'm sorry.

01:11:25.000 Yeah.

01:11:25.000 That is an actor.

01:11:28.000 That's doing that.

01:11:29.000 And that's why it's like a really close cropped footage of him.

01:11:33.000 You don't like zoom in.

01:11:34.000 He doesn't quite look like Kubrick, but he looks like a weird old guy with a beard.

01:11:38.000 And so if you don't know what Kubrick looks like, yeah, not Kubrick.

01:11:43.000 But if anybody faked the moon landing, it was that guy.

01:11:47.000 What about Buzz Aldrin?

01:11:49.000 I think he came out and said, no, I would know.

01:11:52.000 We didn't land there.

01:11:53.000 Well, he said some weird stuff.

01:11:56.000 But the weird stuff you could attribute to, like, Biden-type weird stuff.

01:11:59.000 Like, when you get old, sometimes the old dome don't work so good, and your words come out goofy.

01:12:04.000 Like, he was talking to that young girl, because it didn't happen.

01:12:07.000 We never went.

01:12:08.000 Like, he said something weird like that.

01:12:10.000 But I think, as a conspiracy theorist, I want to believe that that's him letting everybody know.

01:12:16.000 That's not nearly as interesting as the Neil Armstrong one.

01:12:22.000 The Neil Armstrong one is crazy.

01:12:24.000 And this is at the 25th anniversary of the moon landing.

01:12:28.000 He gives a speech in front of America's best and brightest high school students.

01:12:33.000 And instead of saying, I went to the moon, it was amazing, he gives the most cryptic explanation for what they have to do in order to progress in science.

01:12:49.000 Play it for me, Jamie.

01:12:51.000 Because when you see it, when you listen to it, you're like, what the fuck is he saying?

01:12:55.000 And why would you ever say that when you're giving a speech to the best high school students in the country at the White House?

01:13:04.000 Why would you say this?

01:13:06.000 The anniversary of the event in 1994, Neil Armstrong made a rare public appearance and held back tears as he spoke these brief cryptic remarks before the next generation of taxpayers.

01:13:18.000 As they toured the White House.

01:13:20.000 Today we have with us a group of students among America's best.

01:13:27.000 To you we say we've only completed a beginning.

01:13:33.000 We leave you much that is undone.

01:13:39.000 There are great ideas undiscovered.

01:13:43.000 Breakthroughs available to those who can remove...

01:13:51.000 What the fuck does that mean?

01:13:57.000 Breakthroughs for those who can remove one of truth's protective layers.

01:14:02.000 Truth's protective layers?

01:14:06.000 What the fuck does that mean?

01:14:07.000 Like, why would you say that?

01:14:08.000 That is so cryptic.

01:14:10.000 I don't care what reasonable explanations you have.

01:14:14.000 That is undeniably cryptic.

01:14:17.000 And if you're a person that did something in 1969 that no one's come even close to recreating today, it's a little weird.

01:14:27.000 It's a little weird.

01:14:28.000 And that's just part of what's a little weird about it.

01:14:30.000 It's a little weird that it's got almost a religious connotation to it, where people want to believe in it like they believe in the resurrection.

01:14:37.000 They want to believe in it despite any evidence.

01:14:40.000 I believe in the resurrection more.

01:14:42.000 How about that?

01:14:46.000 Take that rumor and twist it around however you want.

01:14:49.000 Make it something you can deal with.

01:14:51.000 The moon landing one, I'm like, I don't know.

01:14:53.000 I don't think so.

01:14:55.000 I don't know, but if I had to guess, I don't think so.

01:15:00.000 And then what's really weird is we had that Bart Sabrell guy on.

01:15:05.000 That was his documentary.

01:15:06.000 A funny thing happened on the way to the moon.

01:15:09.000 He was showing us some footage where the Russians had used AI. To do an analysis on some of the photos from the moon, and they said that they were deceptive.

01:15:18.000 So they use AI on all these other images that can show a high 90% accuracy, whether or not something's been fucked with.

01:15:26.000 And they're like, these have been monkeyed with.

01:15:29.000 It was all edited.

01:15:32.000 You don't know what to believe.

01:15:33.000 I mean, I just saw a clip yesterday with my voice again.

01:15:37.000 What were you selling?

01:15:38.000 I sent you something.

01:15:39.000 I sent you one of them.

01:15:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:41.000 No, it has you and me.

01:15:43.000 Talking like this, and we're talking about some space enterprise with stars, ships, and shit, and I'm going, how do they do this?

01:15:51.000 They can do a whole podcast with your voice now.

01:15:54.000 Not only can they do a whole podcast with your voice, AI could generate the content.

01:15:58.000 Like you'd say, I want to talk to John Reeves about biological evolution and what the current state of science is and what the future holds for us.

01:16:07.000 And that'll be used in the clip that we're going to see within a week.

01:16:10.000 Probably.

01:16:11.000 Your voice.

01:16:12.000 Probably, because they could make a one-hour podcast with you just relaying the current state-of-the-art in science.

01:16:18.000 It's really wild.

01:16:21.000 And it's probably going to get worse.

01:16:23.000 It's going to be so good that I'm going to think it's you.

01:16:25.000 Or I'm going to think it's me.

01:16:27.000 I'm like, maybe I forgot about that one.

01:16:29.000 You know, as I get older, you know, I forget shit.

01:16:32.000 I think it's true.

01:16:34.000 I think that's a defense mechanism.

01:16:36.000 I don't want to remember that one.

01:16:40.000 I'll forget about that one.

01:16:42.000 But, you know, we both made it around one more time, around the sun.

01:16:48.000 Yeah.

01:16:49.000 And it's been an unbelievable year, you know, what we've both seen in the last year.

01:16:56.000 It's definitely been a wild time to be alive, right?

01:17:00.000 Yep.

01:17:01.000 Yeah.

01:17:02.000 Like, filled with turmoil.

01:17:04.000 I think it's also because it's so quick.

01:17:07.000 The information that you can get is coming at you from every direction.

01:17:11.000 Yeah.

01:17:12.000 Instantly.

01:17:13.000 Instantly.

01:17:13.000 But in 1920, that wasn't happening.

01:17:16.000 No.

01:17:17.000 It wasn't happening in 1880. No.

01:17:20.000 It was like, you didn't know, like, when Seward bought Alaska.

01:17:24.000 You didn't know why he did that.

01:17:27.000 Everybody said Seward's Folly.

01:17:29.000 How about Seward's Genius?

01:17:31.000 They thought it was a bad deal?

01:17:34.000 Yeah.

01:17:34.000 Seven million dollars for Alaska.

01:17:37.000 That's so funny.

01:17:38.000 Two cents an acre.

01:17:40.000 Now let me tell you something.

01:17:41.000 A guy named Klaus Nasky, who's a doctor of history at the University of Alaska, I used to teach his kid how to swim.

01:17:48.000 Him and I were at a social function someplace and we were talking.

01:17:52.000 And we were talking about the purchase of Alaska.

01:17:54.000 And he goes, you know why we did that, right?

01:17:57.000 I said, well, yeah, Seward wanted to buy it, and $7 million.

01:18:00.000 He goes, yeah, we gave $7 million to Russia.

01:18:04.000 I said, okay, yeah, they sold it to us.

01:18:07.000 He goes, why do you think they did that?

01:18:12.000 I said, I don't know.

01:18:13.000 They said it was because the SEALs were gone.

01:18:15.000 You know, they had gotten all the SEALs trade done.

01:18:19.000 He goes, that's not why.

01:18:21.000 During the Civil War, Russia blockaded Charleston Harbor.

01:18:25.000 With their warships.

01:18:27.000 And it helped the North win the Civil War.

01:18:30.000 And the bill for that was $7 million.

01:18:33.000 And they knew they couldn't just go out to America and say, yeah, the Russians helped us win the Civil War.

01:18:39.000 Really?

01:18:40.000 This is what he told me.

01:18:42.000 Doctor of history.

01:18:44.000 And I said the same thing.

01:18:46.000 He goes, yeah.

01:18:48.000 He goes, nobody talks about it.

01:18:49.000 Nobody even mentions it.

01:18:53.000 Russia took the $7 million and they gave us Alaska.

01:18:57.000 That'll justify this $7 million.

01:19:00.000 Whoa.

01:19:03.000 What do you think about the idea of the United States taking over Canada?

01:19:07.000 Well, it makes Alaska the third largest fucking state.

01:19:10.000 First, we got to get Greenland.

01:19:12.000 Let's get Greenland so we got them surrounded, kind of.

01:19:15.000 I thought he was just joking around about Canada, but he seems serious.

01:19:19.000 Well, I think Drew was talking about this the other day.

01:19:23.000 Canada's got seven, I'm not sure how many provinces, but they're different.

01:19:29.000 And so what they might want to do is make seven new states.

01:19:32.000 Because the people in Alberta do different stuff than the people in...

01:19:37.000 You can't just have the state of Canada.

01:19:40.000 No.

01:19:40.000 Because it would be like LA and New York calling the elections.

01:19:44.000 No, it would be way worse because Montreal and Quebec is French.

01:19:48.000 I mean, it's basically French-speaking.

01:19:50.000 Everyone speaks French.

01:19:52.000 It's so different than the rest of the country.

01:19:53.000 I mean, there's a lot of French-speaking people in Canada in general, but there's way more on the East Coast.

01:19:59.000 Vancouver and Montreal are very different places.

01:20:03.000 They have to be different cities, man.

01:20:06.000 Different states.

01:20:06.000 You can't have them be just one part of a big country.

01:20:10.000 If there's seven different provinces, yeah, so we have seven new states now.

01:20:14.000 Fine.

01:20:15.000 Why not?

01:20:16.000 What, we can't count past 51?

01:20:18.000 What is that?

01:20:19.000 Well, people forget what it's like to expand America.

01:20:24.000 The last time we did it was Alaska.

01:20:27.000 People just get scared of it.

01:20:29.000 They get scared of the idea of the empire, the American empire expanding.

01:20:32.000 It makes you think about Hitler.

01:20:33.000 It makes you think about fascism and dangerous, you know, military decisions that get made, take over countries, wars that happen.

01:20:43.000 That's what people get scared of.

01:20:44.000 But if Canada just wants to join, that'd be pretty cool.

01:20:47.000 Yeah, they got a lot of natural resources.

01:20:49.000 Yeah.

01:20:52.000 Also, their government's goofy as shit.

01:20:54.000 You guys don't even have freedom of speech.

01:20:56.000 You should be protected by the Constitution.

01:20:58.000 Yeah, then they get the Second Amendment.

01:21:00.000 Yeah.

01:21:01.000 Well, they used to have gun laws over there that were pretty favorable, but then when Truro came around, you can't even give someone a handgun, I don't think, anymore.

01:21:10.000 It's gotten...

01:21:11.000 Well, I know a few Canadians.

01:21:14.000 They don't like Trudeau.

01:21:16.000 They don't like what he's done to the country.

01:21:18.000 Well, there's got to be somebody that likes him and keeps winning.

01:21:21.000 He's got the numbers.

01:21:23.000 Canada's so kind.

01:21:24.000 They're so nice that they're willing to give a dork like that a second and a third chance.

01:21:33.000 Well, the farmers don't like him, I don't think.

01:21:37.000 The miners don't like him.

01:21:39.000 Well, certainly the truck drivers that were involved in that trucker convoy.

01:21:42.000 That was crazy.

01:21:43.000 And not just the trucker convoy, but the people that donated to the trucker convoy got their bank accounts shut down.

01:21:49.000 Which is just crazy.

01:21:51.000 That's just crazy.

01:21:52.000 You've got to have laws against that.

01:21:53.000 That's tyranny.

01:21:54.000 You can't allow people to shut down someone's entire bank account and they can't feed themselves because they donated to a person who's politically opposed to what you're doing.

01:22:04.000 Yeah.

01:22:06.000 Anyways, Alaska, I think.

01:22:09.000 Coming from the guy that told me that, he's dead now, but I believe it.

01:22:14.000 But back then, there was no fact checkers.

01:22:16.000 There was no way to tell people what was going on.

01:22:19.000 So let's just tell them we bought it.

01:22:21.000 That's interesting.

01:22:23.000 Russia helped the United States win the Civil War.

01:22:25.000 Have you ever found anything on that, Jamie?

01:22:27.000 No.

01:22:28.000 I've never heard that before.

01:22:29.000 I wouldn't be surprised, though.

01:22:31.000 I'm sure back then they could hide all kinds of shit, too.

01:22:33.000 The North didn't have the Navy.

01:22:35.000 How much do you think Greenland's worth?

01:22:38.000 Well, I was talking to my accountant this morning.

01:22:44.000 I think Greenland, if it became a state, it would be the largest state in the country.

01:22:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:22:49.000 It's a big spot.

01:22:50.000 And then Alaska would be second.

01:22:52.000 But Texas is always going to be screwed.

01:22:56.000 No matter how many more states we get, Texas is always going to go down the list.

01:23:00.000 Yep.

01:23:01.000 It's still huge.

01:23:02.000 Greenland, then Canada, Alaska, America.

01:23:07.000 I kind of like Mexico, too.

01:23:08.000 Might as well take all of it.

01:23:11.000 I don't think the Mexicans would be very upset if we tried to take over Mexico.

01:23:16.000 But it would be nice if Mexico had the same opportunities as America and that it wasn't so attractive to try to swim across the river to get here.

01:23:25.000 Well, what I don't get, Joe, we got a pretty good Navy.

01:23:29.000 We got a pretty good Air Force.

01:23:30.000 We got a pretty good military base.

01:23:33.000 What the fuck are we doing not sending A-10s down there into Mexico and taking those fentanyl labs out?

01:23:40.000 What are you gonna do, Mexico?

01:23:42.000 You don't like us doing that?

01:23:43.000 We just said they're terrorists.

01:23:44.000 We're gonna blow up their fucking buildings.

01:23:46.000 We'll tell them we're coming.

01:23:48.000 But we're gonna blow the fuck out of that stuff.

01:23:50.000 They're gonna have no infrastructure left.

01:23:52.000 What are you gonna do?

01:23:54.000 No more avocados?

01:23:55.000 Give me a fucking break.

01:23:57.000 Send some A-10s.

01:23:59.000 I've had A-10s on my ground.

01:24:01.000 They're buzzing my ground for years.

01:24:02.000 They practice on my ground.

01:24:04.000 Well, they're awesome.

01:24:06.000 Those pilots are good.

01:24:08.000 Yeah.

01:24:09.000 A couple little warthogs in there and they'll take care of business.

01:24:12.000 What do you think that looks like?

01:24:13.000 A war with the cartels?

01:24:15.000 I've stumbled across this, but that doesn't...

01:24:17.000 Exactly.

01:24:18.000 It says, They must have had wooden ships then because I

01:24:48.000 just found their first ironclad ship was built in Britain in 1861. Whoa.

01:24:53.000 Instead it stayed in Russian waters the entire time.

01:24:56.000 Whoa.

01:24:56.000 Because they had their own civil war just after.

01:24:58.000 Bro, they were going to war with wood ships.

01:25:02.000 Gangster.

01:25:03.000 They knocked the shit out of the seal population.

01:25:08.000 Oh, I'm sure.

01:25:08.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:09.000 They were really good at what they did.

01:25:10.000 What did they used to be like?

01:25:11.000 Seals everywhere up there?

01:25:12.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:13.000 And are they endangered now?

01:25:14.000 Like, what's the...

01:25:15.000 I don't really know, because we don't have any in our area, but I have a friend that's a mechanic who's telling me he had a lady come into his auto shop and said something was wrong with her engine.

01:25:31.000 And so he went out and told her, he said, it looks like you blew a seal.

01:25:37.000 And she said, no, I had tuna fish for lunch.

01:25:41.000 Yeah, you don't tell a comic a joke, do you?

01:25:43.000 Yeah, yes, I've been saving that one.

01:25:47.000 I know that native Alaskans are allowed to hunt seals, and they eat them.

01:25:53.000 Yeah.

01:25:53.000 But regular people can't.

01:25:56.000 I think they share.

01:25:57.000 There's weird rules on that, though.

01:25:59.000 Yeah, you might be able to share, but you can't hunt seals.

01:26:01.000 Yeah.

01:26:02.000 You ever watch that show, Life Below Zero?

01:26:04.000 I have seen that.

01:26:06.000 Yeah.

01:26:06.000 Part of that show was like this one guy was living with this native Alaskan wife and their kids and they would go hunt the seals and she would shoot the seals and she had to pull the trigger.

01:26:18.000 Then he could help butcher them up.

01:26:20.000 So there's about 141,000 in non-glacial areas now.

01:26:25.000 The Wikipedia says that there were 300,000.

01:26:30.000 For one's population in the 1850s.

01:26:33.000 Oh, no, that's sea otters.

01:26:35.000 Oh, so I guess I read that wrong.

01:26:37.000 It says once a population of 300,000 sea otters was almost extinct.

01:26:44.000 Russia needed money after being defeated by France and Britain in the Crimean War.

01:26:48.000 The California gold rush showed that if gold were discovered in Alaska, Americans, Canadians could overwhelm the Russian presence in what one scholar later described as Siberia's Siberia.

01:26:58.000 However, the principal reason for the sale was that the hard-to-defend colony would be easily conquered by British forces based in neighboring Canada in any future conflict, and Russia did not wish to see its arch-rival being next door just across the Bering Sea.

01:27:13.000 Therefore, Emperor Alexander II decided to sell the territory.

01:27:16.000 The Russian government discussed the proposal in 1857 and 1858 and offered to sell the territory to the United States.

01:27:22.000 So was before all that in the Civil War.

01:27:25.000 Hoping that its presence in the region would offset the plans of Britain.

01:27:29.000 However, no deal was reached as the risk of an American Civil War was more pressing concern in Washington.

01:27:36.000 Plausible space for our new news today in this story.

01:27:40.000 Our new news?

01:27:41.000 What he said about the Russian ships.

01:27:42.000 That kind of fits.

01:27:43.000 It could happen.

01:27:44.000 Yes.

01:27:45.000 Because it says 1857 to 1858, they agreed to sell it.

01:27:50.000 An offer to sell.

01:27:50.000 So they agreed, but then they had to put it on.

01:27:53.000 On the back burner because of the war.

01:27:55.000 So then after the war, they bought it.

01:27:57.000 So it might have been that they said, look, we'll still buy it, but help us out.

01:28:00.000 This is how we got it covered.

01:28:02.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

01:28:03.000 Well, this guy's like Dr. Emeritus in history.

01:28:06.000 I mean, he knows his shit.

01:28:08.000 The problem is then you have to trust those guys.

01:28:10.000 I would rather trust Wikipedia.

01:28:14.000 Anything I read on Wikipedia has got to be true.

01:28:16.000 Wait, let's see otters now.

01:28:17.000 70,000.

01:28:18.000 Oh, there's only 70,000 left?

01:28:19.000 That's see otters, though?

01:28:21.000 Yeah.

01:28:23.000 Sea otters are vicious little fuckers.

01:28:27.000 That slings me up there in Gnome.

01:28:30.000 He sees a lot of that kind of stuff.

01:28:32.000 Otters?

01:28:33.000 All the sea life up there.

01:28:35.000 Oh, yeah.

01:28:36.000 You follow him.

01:28:37.000 Yeah, there's a giant difference between like the coastal Alaska and regular Alaska.

01:28:42.000 Coastal Alaska is wild.

01:28:43.000 He went out and just slayed the king crab last year.

01:28:47.000 Oh, I'm sure.

01:28:47.000 Yeah.

01:28:48.000 But that is not worth dying for.

01:28:50.000 That show...

01:28:51.000 The most deadly harvest or deadliest harvest, whatever it's show.

01:28:54.000 I watch that show.

01:28:55.000 I go, guys, get out of there.

01:28:57.000 I haven't seen that show.

01:28:59.000 You never seen that show?

01:28:59.000 You know the show, Jamie, right?

01:29:02.000 What is it called?

01:29:02.000 Deadliest Harvest?

01:29:04.000 The crab fishing show.

01:29:05.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:06.000 Isn't that what it's called?

01:29:07.000 Deadliest Catch.

01:29:07.000 Deadliest Catch, that's right.

01:29:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:09.000 Deadliest Catch, that's right.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, they're way out in the middle of the freaking ocean there.

01:29:13.000 Yeah, and they're fucking rocking back and forth.

01:29:15.000 Guys fall overboard sometimes.

01:29:17.000 Yeah.

01:29:18.000 Fuck that.

01:29:20.000 Yeah, no, that's crazy.

01:29:21.000 Fall for crab.

01:29:25.000 And I get it.

01:29:26.000 I want crab, too, but not that bad.

01:29:28.000 Guys.

01:29:29.000 You get it from Slingsby.

01:29:31.000 Yeah.

01:29:31.000 Big crabs.

01:29:32.000 You know, he goes out, drills through the ice, and brings them up.

01:29:35.000 Through the ice?

01:29:36.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:36.000 He gets them in the wintertime.

01:29:38.000 Really?

01:29:38.000 Yeah.

01:29:39.000 So it's ocean ice?

01:29:41.000 It's right offshore, right there in Nome.

01:29:43.000 So you can walk on the ocean ice?

01:29:45.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:45.000 Out there?

01:29:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:46.000 How thick is the ocean ice?

01:29:47.000 Thick.

01:29:48.000 Thicker than fuck.

01:29:51.000 I didn't even know we had that.

01:29:53.000 I mean, I got, obviously, because of glaciers.

01:29:55.000 But I didn't even think that there was, like, places where you could walk over frozen ocean and drill through it.

01:30:01.000 They have a gold mining show that they film off the coast of Nome where they cut through the ice and they send divers down with suction dredges.

01:30:09.000 Whoa.

01:30:10.000 It's on Discovery Channel.

01:30:12.000 To look for gold?

01:30:13.000 Yeah.

01:30:13.000 Cut through the ice.

01:30:15.000 Dive through a fucking hole in the ocean ice.

01:30:17.000 Forget the name of that show.

01:30:18.000 What is that cold plunge like?

01:30:21.000 How long can they stay down there?

01:30:23.000 Some of them stay down there all day.

01:30:24.000 Eight hours.

01:30:25.000 They'll do a whole shift.

01:30:28.000 How can you do that?

01:30:29.000 They have suits on and they have warm water pumped into your wetsuit or your dry suit.

01:30:35.000 How deep are they down there?

01:30:37.000 Here you go.

01:30:38.000 Is this the show?

01:30:38.000 Yeah.

01:30:41.000 I've met her before.

01:30:43.000 She's a nice lady.

01:30:45.000 She's an opera singer.

01:30:47.000 This is crazy.

01:30:50.000 This is the way that people live so differently in the world.

01:30:53.000 There's people that this is their reality.

01:30:56.000 They get a little ice fishing hut.

01:30:57.000 They set them up.

01:30:59.000 What they're doing is just unbelievable.

01:31:02.000 So what's he doing now?

01:31:03.000 He's cutting holes in the ice?

01:31:05.000 He's getting ready to go down.

01:31:05.000 Yeah, that's Sean Pomrecchi.

01:31:07.000 And this guy's got this suit.

01:31:09.000 So how deep is he going?

01:31:11.000 He's got down about 30 feet.

01:31:13.000 Fuck that.

01:31:14.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:31:15.000 Look at this.

01:31:15.000 There you go.

01:31:17.000 Fuck this.

01:31:19.000 Dude, fuck this.

01:31:21.000 This creeps me out just watching it.

01:31:26.000 And so they go all the way to the bottom and get gold.

01:31:28.000 They must have a lot of gold down there.

01:31:29.000 There's a lot of gold down there.

01:31:31.000 Like, how much is this worth?

01:31:32.000 29 degrees Fahrenheit temperature of the water.

01:31:36.000 Motherfucker.

01:31:38.000 I mean, he has to get through the overburden.

01:31:43.000 But it's worth it.

01:31:45.000 Yeah, I mean, he does quite well.

01:31:47.000 What's quite well?

01:31:49.000 What do you think these guys pull a year?

01:31:51.000 Well, they probably make more off Discovery Channel than they do gold mining.

01:31:55.000 Really?

01:31:55.000 Yeah.

01:31:56.000 I think.

01:31:59.000 I know a few of these guys.

01:32:01.000 They don't get much gold.

01:32:02.000 But they're willing to do that.

01:32:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:04.000 For not much gold.

01:32:05.000 Yeah, but they get a pretty good paycheck.

01:32:09.000 You've got to remember something.

01:32:10.000 You know this.

01:32:11.000 There's nothing real about reality TV. That's true.

01:32:14.000 Nothing.

01:32:15.000 That's true.

01:32:16.000 We did a stint with Discovery Channel.

01:32:18.000 I'm sorry, National Geographic.

01:32:22.000 No more.

01:32:23.000 It's a disaster?

01:32:24.000 Well, yeah.

01:32:25.000 I mean, they want to make drama.

01:32:27.000 They want to pit the kids against each other.

01:32:29.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:30.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:32:32.000 We don't do that shit.

01:32:33.000 Isn't that hilarious?

01:32:35.000 That's all those shows.

01:32:36.000 All those shows are like that.

01:32:37.000 They're all like someone squabbling.

01:32:39.000 It's all housewives.

01:32:41.000 You've got to hate on her and hate on him.

01:32:44.000 Those are good.

01:32:45.000 Oh, these little breakers?

01:32:46.000 Yeah, these are good.

01:32:47.000 You want one?

01:32:48.000 No, thanks.

01:32:48.000 So you're off nicotine entirely?

01:32:51.000 Well, I do this in once in a while.

01:32:53.000 Once in a while.

01:32:54.000 My doctor said that...

01:32:56.000 These are Tucker Carlson's.

01:32:57.000 He makes his own Alps.

01:32:58.000 Oh, does he?

01:32:59.000 Yeah, I'll give you one.

01:33:00.000 Oh, cool.

01:33:01.000 No, I was talking to the doctor.

01:33:03.000 He says, you might go through some nicotine withdrawals.

01:33:06.000 And I said, no, I won't.

01:33:07.000 I quit.

01:33:08.000 I'm done.

01:33:09.000 He said, it's not the nicotine that's hurting you.

01:33:12.000 It's the smoking that's hurting you.

01:33:14.000 The carcinogenics going in your lungs and all the chemicals and all that bullshit.

01:33:19.000 He says nicotine's as good as caffeine.

01:33:22.000 Straight up, nicotine's fine.

01:33:24.000 Yeah, I believe that.

01:33:26.000 And I'm going, okay.

01:33:27.000 I like that.

01:33:28.000 I've tried it.

01:33:29.000 It's also, it's a legitimate cognitive enhancer.

01:33:31.000 It's a legitimate, what they call a nootropic.

01:33:33.000 It really does affect you cognitively.

01:33:36.000 The thing is, like, the best way to get it is a cigarette.

01:33:39.000 And, like, doing it that way is killing you.

01:33:42.000 It kills everybody.

01:33:43.000 It robs you.

01:33:45.000 Gives you something, it robs you.

01:33:47.000 Gives you something, takes it away, and you don't notice.

01:33:49.000 You don't notice.

01:33:51.000 In my case, I got to the point in my life where I'm going, I've done it for so long, something's going to get me.

01:33:58.000 But now I realize, hey, it won't be that.

01:34:02.000 It won't be smoking.

01:34:04.000 It might be a bear coming up on me without me seeing it.

01:34:09.000 It might drive a cat over the edge.

01:34:11.000 I don't know what will happen.

01:34:12.000 But I honestly never thought I'd get past 50 when I was growing up.

01:34:17.000 Really?

01:34:17.000 I thought I'd be dead by 45. Why?

01:34:22.000 Child of the 70s, man.

01:34:24.000 It was all fucked up back then.

01:34:25.000 No suit belts.

01:34:27.000 Yeah.

01:34:28.000 You know, there's a former governor of Alaska named Walter Hickel that Richard Nixon appointed to be Secretary of the Interior in 1970. So he went...

01:34:40.000 And did that and went into Nixon one day and says, the Vietnam War is wrong.

01:34:46.000 Nixon goes, you're fired.

01:34:48.000 Get out of here.

01:34:50.000 So he went back to Alaska.

01:34:51.000 He became a governor.

01:34:52.000 Great governor.

01:34:54.000 Probably one of the best governors we ever had.

01:34:57.000 And at some point, he was a Republican, but the Republicans already had a candidate.

01:35:03.000 The Democrats had a candidate.

01:35:04.000 So he ran as an Alaskan for independence candidate.

01:35:08.000 Their party platform was to secede from the United States.

01:35:12.000 And I used to be the treasurer for that group.

01:35:15.000 I'm going, I like this guy.

01:35:17.000 That sounds like fun.

01:35:19.000 Let's do that.

01:35:20.000 That guy got elected.

01:35:21.000 Wow.

01:35:22.000 And Jack Cockhill was his lieutenant governor.

01:35:24.000 I knew him quite well.

01:35:26.000 So he wanted to become a country.

01:35:28.000 I still do.

01:35:30.000 I'm telling you.

01:35:32.000 You want the United States to take over Canada, but you want Alaska to be its own country.

01:35:37.000 This was all when Biden was there.

01:35:40.000 I'm thinking, worst case scenario, we're going to get the girl that didn't want to be on your show.

01:35:44.000 If we get her, I want Alaska to become its own country.

01:35:49.000 We just got to get away from this.

01:35:51.000 It's a train wreck.

01:35:53.000 But since Trump got in and he's doing the things that he said he was going to do, hey, I like the idea.

01:35:58.000 You want to expand America?

01:35:59.000 Expand America.

01:36:00.000 It's a good idea.

01:36:00.000 It's been done before.

01:36:01.000 So you're willing to keep Alaska as part of America?

01:36:03.000 Yeah.

01:36:04.000 Why don't you run for governor?

01:36:05.000 Ah, fuck that.

01:36:06.000 You'd be a fun governor.

01:36:07.000 I would be a fun governor.

01:36:12.000 The way you said it.

01:36:13.000 Give it a go.

01:36:15.000 Successful Alaska businessman.

01:36:17.000 Why don't you run for governor?

01:36:18.000 I don't have time.

01:36:20.000 I'm busy.

01:36:21.000 I know you're busy.

01:36:24.000 But I can't do it.

01:36:28.000 You don't need that in your life.

01:36:29.000 I'm just kidding.

01:36:30.000 I'm completely kidding.

01:36:31.000 People come up and go, give me some...

01:36:36.000 Something.

01:36:36.000 This is an issue.

01:36:38.000 And I'm thinking, why is it an issue?

01:36:40.000 I don't give a shit about that.

01:36:42.000 That's not a good politician.

01:36:44.000 Right.

01:36:45.000 A politician I knew that I talked to one day was a state senator.

01:36:50.000 He goes, here's the trick.

01:36:52.000 All you do when they say that, you go, I see.

01:36:57.000 That's it.

01:36:58.000 That's it.

01:36:59.000 Just say, I see.

01:37:01.000 You listen to them, I see.

01:37:03.000 And you don't really care.

01:37:04.000 No, you don't give a fuck.

01:37:06.000 Well, a lot of them definitely don't.

01:37:08.000 A lot of them are just using it as an audition to become president.

01:37:11.000 They just want to do a good enough job to get the big job.

01:37:17.000 Well, President Trump just announced recently that he wants to get a gas line built through Alaska.

01:37:26.000 Talking about governors, Governor Palin appointed me to be the gas line project coordinator for DOT back when she was governor.

01:37:33.000 And there was another guy that worked for DOT named Frank Richards.

01:37:38.000 And so I went to work to get a gas line permit written and worked with a guy named Harry Noah, who was a commissioner under DNR's, I'm sorry, under Governor Hickel.

01:37:50.000 He was a commissioner of DNR. So him and I worked on this permit to get a pipeline built.

01:37:55.000 Through Alaska.

01:37:56.000 Took us three years.

01:37:58.000 I'm the guy that wrote it.

01:37:59.000 I'm the guy that signed it, along with Harry.

01:38:01.000 So when President Trump was doing an interview three days after he got elected, he goes, and we have a fully permitted pipeline in Alaska to go ahead and build a gas line through Alaska.

01:38:10.000 I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:38:12.000 Stop the TV and back it up a little bit.

01:38:15.000 I wrote the fucking permit.

01:38:17.000 I signed the fucking permit.

01:38:19.000 He's talking about some work that I did.

01:38:21.000 That's all right.

01:38:22.000 So Frank Richards now is the president of the Alaska Gasline Project, and they just inked a deal with Japan, who came in and said, yeah, we want to buy into this.

01:38:35.000 It's a $44 billion project.

01:38:37.000 So what's the hurdle for pipelines and for oil drilling in the past?

01:38:44.000 Is it environmental?

01:38:45.000 Do people worry it's going to ruin the environment?

01:38:48.000 There's a thing called ANWR, the Arctic National Wildlife Range.

01:38:52.000 I think it's, yeah, something like that.

01:38:55.000 And when the president renamed, well, ANWR, you're not allowed to drill in ANWR. You can't drill for oil in ANWR. There's a lot of oil there, but the feds said you can't drill for oil there.

01:39:06.000 You can't produce oil out of there.

01:39:08.000 But that was for the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

01:39:12.000 But if you change it to the America National Wildlife Refuge, kind of like the Gulf of America, you might be able to drill in there.

01:39:19.000 Is that really all it takes?

01:39:20.000 You just got to rename it?

01:39:22.000 Apparently the Gulf of America works.

01:39:24.000 So they're going to re-drill?

01:39:25.000 They're going to start drilling in the Gulf of America now?

01:39:28.000 It is, by the way, very hilarious.

01:39:30.000 I bet they do.

01:39:31.000 When he said it at the inauguration, it was like, this motherfucker.

01:39:35.000 Like, this is such a crazy thing to say.

01:39:37.000 And he did it.

01:39:38.000 He signed it yesterday on the way across the Gulf of America.

01:39:41.000 Yeah.

01:39:44.000 I was in...

01:39:45.000 Oh, where were we staying?

01:39:48.000 On the way over in Louisiana having dinner, I asked the waitress, I said, how far away are we from the Gulf of America?

01:39:57.000 Well, we're very divided as a country.

01:40:05.000 My hope is that what he does winds up being undeniably good.

01:40:10.000 This is the best case scenario.

01:40:11.000 That's what I hope for every president.

01:40:13.000 What happens is, undeniably good, everybody benefits, and we all realize, like, hey, we're going to be okay.

01:40:19.000 But we should be united as a country.

01:40:21.000 We shouldn't be united only with the people of our political party.

01:40:24.000 That's stupid.

01:40:25.000 We're supposed to be one team.

01:40:27.000 And, you know, this is the new coach, or this is the new president.

01:40:31.000 Okay.

01:40:32.000 Like, get on board.

01:40:33.000 This is what's happening now.

01:40:35.000 And if there's something that you think is egregiously wrong, like all this USAID stuff, Hey, maybe there's some really good programs in there that we should all examine and we should reinstate.

01:40:45.000 But they should examine it.

01:40:46.000 The idea that you shouldn't examine it, there's no argument for that.

01:40:49.000 Once you've found $200 million that goes to transgender animal tests, you know you got some fuckery.

01:40:57.000 Like, you can't spend $200 million on transgender animal tests while you're $36 trillion in debt and not spending any money on East Palestine.

01:41:07.000 Like, what happened to that place?

01:41:09.000 Huh?

01:41:10.000 What about the toxic spill in East Palestine?

01:41:13.000 What about the health effects of those people that deal with that burning toxic shit in their air for weeks and weeks?

01:41:19.000 What happened to them?

01:41:20.000 Anybody check?

01:41:21.000 Anybody go into that ground and see what the fucking groundwater's like?

01:41:25.000 Anybody dig that stuff out and fucking process it?

01:41:28.000 Are they doing anything about that?

01:41:29.000 Not yet.

01:41:30.000 You can see videos where they stick sticks in the water and the sheen comes right out.

01:41:35.000 Bro, how about Flint, Michigan?

01:41:37.000 How about that?

01:41:37.000 How about their water still fucked up?

01:41:39.000 Yep.

01:41:40.000 Can I get a glass of water?

01:41:41.000 Remember when Obama did that?

01:41:42.000 This is not a snot.

01:41:43.000 I want a glass of water.

01:41:44.000 And he sips it like this.

01:41:45.000 Like a little lizard.

01:41:48.000 He barely drank it.

01:41:50.000 It's so crazy to ask for a glass of water where you know the water's polluted and you don't even drink it.

01:41:58.000 That's so crazy.

01:42:00.000 That's so crazy.

01:42:01.000 He didn't even take a gulp.

01:42:02.000 You ever see that?

01:42:03.000 He sips it like this, like this.

01:42:06.000 Like, barely.

01:42:07.000 Have you seen it?

01:42:08.000 You should watch it.

01:42:09.000 You should watch it because it's fun.

01:42:11.000 It's fun to watch because it's so crazy.

01:42:13.000 It's almost like they were trying to talk him into it.

01:42:16.000 And he was like, I'm not drinking that fucking water.

01:42:18.000 And they're like, listen, just drink a little bit of it.

01:42:20.000 Just drink it.

01:42:20.000 It'll be good for everybody.

01:42:21.000 Just go out there and say, can I get a glass of water?

01:42:24.000 It is.

01:42:25.000 There you go.

01:42:26.000 You know, generally I have not been doing stunts here, but, you know.

01:42:30.000 Watch this.

01:42:33.000 What was that?

01:42:34.000 This used a filter.

01:42:37.000 The water around this table was flint water that was filtered.

01:42:42.000 And it just confirms what we know scientifically, which is that if you're using a filter, if you're installing it, then flint water at this point is drinkable.

01:42:55.000 Stop.

01:42:56.000 Pause.

01:42:57.000 If I was in the audience, I'd be yelling.

01:42:58.000 Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug.

01:43:01.000 Get him gallons of that and then monitor his diarrhea.

01:43:04.000 Okay, what are you talking about?

01:43:06.000 You didn't even drink that.

01:43:07.000 Make your pasta in that, sir.

01:43:09.000 Go make your rice in that water.

01:43:12.000 Using a filter.

01:43:14.000 These people are so poor.

01:43:15.000 That's a very impoverished community.

01:43:17.000 I bet a lot of those people don't have filters.

01:43:19.000 So you're saying if they don't have filters, they're fucked?

01:43:21.000 Is that what you're saying?

01:43:22.000 And you only drank it like this.

01:43:25.000 You barely drank it.

01:43:26.000 It didn't move.

01:43:27.000 The level of water didn't change.

01:43:29.000 You just dipped your tongue in there.

01:43:31.000 You didn't really drink.

01:43:32.000 That's so crazy to not drink it.

01:43:34.000 We did eight years with that guy, right?

01:43:36.000 Yeah.

01:43:38.000 We got out of a long relationship.

01:43:40.000 Well, kind of with all of them.

01:43:43.000 It's just the job of being a president is so hard.

01:43:46.000 I used to say, I want Hillary to win because I want a woman to be president.

01:43:49.000 So I realized they can't fucking do that job either.

01:43:52.000 Nobody does that job right.

01:43:53.000 Everybody fucks it up.

01:43:54.000 Nobody ever gets it right.

01:43:56.000 It's always just a disaster.

01:43:57.000 Everybody, half the country at least, hates you.

01:43:59.000 The other giant percentages of the population, even on your team, are disappointing you because you didn't do exactly what they want you to do.

01:44:07.000 We've got a pretty good group of legislators in Alaska.

01:44:11.000 Yeah?

01:44:12.000 Yeah.

01:44:12.000 For the most part, they're all, you know, we're going to have their squabbles and stuff, but pretty much everybody on the same page.

01:44:19.000 I think you guys are different humans.

01:44:22.000 Just more durable, reliable people.

01:44:25.000 Because you have to deal with the cold.

01:44:26.000 And you got bears and moose and shit running around up there.

01:44:29.000 I think it makes different people.

01:44:31.000 When you live in the same neighborhood as grizzly bears, it just makes everything a little different.

01:44:36.000 Yeah, it actually does.

01:44:38.000 And people are generally nice to each other.

01:44:42.000 And considerate.

01:44:44.000 Well, they seem, like I said, more robust.

01:44:49.000 When I was in Anchorage...

01:44:51.000 Me and my friend Ari went up there, did some shows, did a little fishing.

01:44:55.000 We were like, these people are like better people.

01:44:57.000 They're like more solid.

01:44:59.000 Like everybody.

01:45:00.000 Even just like the regular people hanging out at the bar.

01:45:02.000 They like had their shit together more.

01:45:04.000 And then we were both like, I guess they kind of have to.

01:45:06.000 Because otherwise you freeze to death.

01:45:08.000 You can't just be a fuck off up here.

01:45:10.000 It's too goddamn cold.

01:45:12.000 And you can't just go wander in the woods.

01:45:13.000 You'll get eaten.

01:45:16.000 You're food, Jack.

01:45:18.000 You can't go too far.

01:45:20.000 Stay close.

01:45:21.000 Stay with your people.

01:45:22.000 Support each other.

01:45:23.000 Someone has a flat tire, fucking help him, right?

01:45:25.000 Because you would want to get help, too.

01:45:27.000 You could die out there.

01:45:29.000 That's the difference.

01:45:30.000 I used to always think that if I go bear hunting, I'm going to go with somebody who I can outrun.

01:45:36.000 But now I get a lot of people asking me if I want to go bear hunting.

01:45:41.000 No.

01:45:42.000 Yeah, you could be in the wrong spot.

01:45:44.000 It doesn't matter who's running fast.

01:45:46.000 That bear's going to get somebody, or all of you, depending upon what's going on.

01:45:50.000 But that's a dangerous kind of hunting.

01:45:54.000 You're hunting something that's like the apex predator of North America, and you don't even eat it.

01:45:59.000 I have a bunch of friends who go grizzly hunting.

01:46:01.000 And the way they put it, like, first of all, you have to control the populations.

01:46:05.000 Like, if you don't, you get a situation that's happening, like in Montana, where they want to list them.

01:46:10.000 But they've been delisted for so long.

01:46:12.000 Like, the only place you can hunt grizzly bears in America is Alaska.

01:46:16.000 And a lot of people that live in Montana don't think that's good.

01:46:19.000 They think they should put them back on the list because there's way too many human interactions.

01:46:25.000 I have a grizzly bear hide I got from Slingsby up in Nome.

01:46:30.000 And it's on that 1885 pool table that I told you.

01:46:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:36.000 I'm not going to play on that pool table until you show up.

01:46:38.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:46:39.000 It covers that pool table.

01:46:41.000 I'm sure.

01:46:41.000 Got two of those now.

01:46:43.000 They're big animals, man.

01:46:45.000 Especially the coastal ones.

01:46:47.000 Have you ever seen one?

01:46:48.000 One of the coastal ones up close?

01:46:50.000 Not grizzly bears.

01:46:52.000 I've seen polar bears and stuff like that.

01:46:54.000 You've seen polar bears up there?

01:46:55.000 Well, not in Fairbanks.

01:46:57.000 I've seen north of Nome.

01:46:58.000 Yeah?

01:46:59.000 Yeah.

01:46:59.000 They have them up there.

01:47:00.000 I mean, they had one polar bear, apparently, I don't know if it's true or not, that walked into the interior of Alaska.

01:47:06.000 I mean, it just went traveling.

01:47:08.000 Really?

01:47:08.000 Going to have me a little cross-country jaunt.

01:47:13.000 Fuck running into that thing.

01:47:14.000 Well, they eat nothing but meat.

01:47:17.000 Yeah.

01:47:18.000 They're badass motherfuckers.

01:47:19.000 They're the most badass of all of them.

01:47:22.000 They are just 100% predator.

01:47:26.000 That's the sketchiest bear to be around.

01:47:28.000 There's this video I was watching of these guys the other day that were in a truck.

01:47:33.000 And they were filming this polar bear as it just kept getting closer and closer, and then they started panicking.

01:47:38.000 Okay, it's like 30 yards away, like that sprinting distance.

01:47:41.000 We've got to get in the truck, and they get in the truck, and the polar bear just climbed on top of the truck.

01:47:45.000 And he was like, we've got to start the truck and get the fuck out of here.

01:47:49.000 This thing's going to break the glass.

01:47:51.000 They're bad.

01:47:52.000 Yeah.

01:47:53.000 You don't want to fuck with them.

01:47:54.000 That's just a can of meat to them.

01:47:56.000 They don't give a fuck about you.

01:47:58.000 You're just food.

01:47:59.000 They live in a frozen wasteland, and anything that's moving around is edible.

01:48:03.000 Yeah, last time...

01:48:05.000 Yeah, look at these guys.

01:48:07.000 Bro, don't do that.

01:48:10.000 Do not do that.

01:48:11.000 Please don't do that.

01:48:13.000 That's so dangerous.

01:48:14.000 That's not your friend.

01:48:16.000 Dude, that thing just wants to eat you.

01:48:18.000 Isn't it so weird?

01:48:19.000 It's so not worried about people because it's not threatened by anything because it's such a top dog that it just, like, will just wander right up to your building.

01:48:27.000 Hey, what's inside?

01:48:29.000 I smell meat.

01:48:30.000 I want to come in that building.

01:48:32.000 I'm hungry.

01:48:33.000 Yeah.

01:48:33.000 I talked about pool.

01:48:35.000 Yeah, what's that?

01:48:36.000 Last time you and I were talking, you said you had a friend that makes pool cues.

01:48:39.000 Yeah.

01:48:40.000 Here's a chunk of mammoth ivory for him.

01:48:42.000 Whoa.

01:48:43.000 This is my buddy Eric Crisp.

01:48:45.000 He makes sugar tree cues.

01:48:48.000 This is beautiful, man.

01:48:50.000 That's a good solid chunk.

01:48:51.000 That's a chunk of mammoth ivory.

01:48:53.000 That's wild.

01:48:54.000 The exterior on that, the blue color is called Vivianite.

01:48:58.000 It comes from mineralization on frozen artifacts like that.

01:49:01.000 I'm going to send him this and tell him to turn this into a masterpiece.

01:49:06.000 He makes incredible pool cues and he does use mammoth ivory.

01:49:10.000 He uses it sometimes in the joint.

01:49:12.000 You said you had one that had mammoth ivory in it.

01:49:17.000 What is that, Jamie?

01:49:19.000 Vivianite?

01:49:20.000 Whoa.

01:49:22.000 God, that's so beautiful.

01:49:25.000 The mineralization you see on that.

01:49:27.000 It's actually easy to find bones sometimes because they're colored blue.

01:49:31.000 Really?

01:49:31.000 Yeah.

01:49:32.000 From mineralization?

01:49:34.000 Yeah.

01:49:34.000 I have some that are really, really blue.

01:49:37.000 That bison, the step bison skull that you gave me, that thing freaks people out.

01:49:44.000 They're like, how old is that?

01:49:45.000 Like, well, we have to get it tested, but it could be 10,000 years old.

01:49:48.000 It could be 40,000 years old.

01:49:50.000 The one that was found over the hill from us was 38,000 years old.

01:49:53.000 Wow.

01:49:54.000 I haven't tested any of my step bisons.

01:49:56.000 Wow.

01:49:57.000 It's 400 bucks a pop, but I would bet that one's at least 20,000, 30,000 years old.

01:50:05.000 Whenever I have anybody on that's like an ancient history expert that's interested in some of the lost civilization guys, we always talk about your place.

01:50:15.000 Because I'm like, that's a place where it seems like that's evidence that something took place there that killed everything all at once.

01:50:22.000 Something came in hot, dude.

01:50:23.000 Something came in hot.

01:50:24.000 And the way you describe it, too, that there's a layer of carbon where it looks like scorched earth.

01:50:29.000 Burnt benrock, burnt gravel.

01:50:31.000 You know, deep, deep, 50 feet down.

01:50:35.000 And since we talked last, I think I kind of figured some things out.

01:50:39.000 Yeah?

01:50:41.000 All that material.

01:50:43.000 That has ended up where we're at.

01:50:45.000 Came in, I think we talked about it, came in some kind of water event.

01:50:49.000 Some flood.

01:50:50.000 Yeah.

01:50:51.000 And that's called the back channel to the pay, what we're digging up pay out of.

01:50:57.000 So there's a back channel that goes through that valley that's pretty decent in gold.

01:51:03.000 I mean, pretty rich.

01:51:04.000 And the miners used to drift mine that because they couldn't bucket line dredge it.

01:51:08.000 And so it goes around where we're at and it keeps going downstream.

01:51:12.000 So when we moved from where we were at down to, let's go find the back channel.

01:51:18.000 And we set up over here where we started on the left limit.

01:51:22.000 We started going back up.

01:51:23.000 And we found some drift mines up there.

01:51:25.000 And this bone here, I think it was from an old drift mine a couple hundred years ago.

01:51:32.000 You know, before the discoveries were even made.

01:51:35.000 Some guys were out there digging around and had an old drift mine going.

01:51:38.000 Yeah, because what did you date this to?

01:51:40.000 That's 200 years old.

01:51:42.000 And this is what kind of an animal?

01:51:44.000 Step bison.

01:51:45.000 Wow.

01:51:45.000 Either step bison or it could be bear.

01:51:48.000 I'm not sure.

01:51:48.000 How crazy is that?

01:51:49.000 They were around 200 years ago.

01:51:51.000 You think that was a bear?

01:51:53.000 I'm not.

01:51:54.000 I don't know.

01:51:55.000 What the fuck?

01:51:56.000 Imagine the size of that fucking thing.

01:51:58.000 Like, that's his shin.

01:52:00.000 I don't know.

01:52:01.000 You got some experts in here and they'll tell you what it is.

01:52:05.000 We call that the spitzer bone.

01:52:07.000 Next time I got a biologist in here, I'll say, what do you think that comes from?

01:52:10.000 It would have to be a very specific kind of biologist, right?

01:52:14.000 A paleontologist worth his waiter.

01:52:17.000 I mean, he should know.

01:52:18.000 I'm not that.

01:52:19.000 How many more things have they discovered in the East River?

01:52:24.000 They haven't told me.

01:52:25.000 But there is, I mentioned last time, a research vessel that was out there.

01:52:30.000 And in this business, if someone makes a discovery on my property that's significant, they don't talk about it.

01:52:40.000 They don't want anybody to know about it.

01:52:43.000 But there was a discovery made, not by Dirty Water Don, or Dan, Don.

01:52:49.000 He's still out there, and he's found all kinds of stuff.

01:52:52.000 He posts it on his Instagram, stuff that he does find.

01:52:56.000 And he's found it in the exact same place that you were told the museum dumped it off.

01:53:01.000 Yep.

01:53:02.000 And I posted a letter, or part of that report, that I was hoping that if somebody, I'd like people to think, here's where it's located, okay?

01:53:14.000 Here's where it was dumped.

01:53:17.000 And it said at the same point where they dumped it, where AMNH dumped it, is where the New York City Hospital dumped their stuff.

01:53:25.000 How hard would it be to go to the hospital and go, look at your records and tell me where you used to dump stuff in the 1940s?

01:53:34.000 Just find out.

01:53:35.000 Just ask them.

01:53:36.000 AMNH ain't going to tell us.

01:53:37.000 Right, but if you know the location where Dirty Water Don found that stuff, it's got to be in there, right?

01:53:42.000 Oh, it's in there.

01:53:43.000 Can you go to his Instagram, Jamie?

01:53:45.000 So, how many different things has he recovered so far?

01:53:49.000 I think he's found mammoth and bison and a jawbone.

01:53:53.000 It could be a horse.

01:53:54.000 I haven't seen any of it with my own eyes.

01:53:57.000 And how much did they supposedly dump in that river?

01:54:00.000 50 tons.

01:54:01.000 That is so crazy.

01:54:03.000 And here's what I was going to tell you.

01:54:04.000 Someone with a research vessel with side scanning sonar and all that stuff apparently found something.

01:54:11.000 I found a mound in the river.

01:54:13.000 It's like 100. Drew probably knows better than me.

01:54:17.000 100 feet long, 40 feet high.

01:54:20.000 Whoa.

01:54:21.000 60 feet wide.

01:54:23.000 Now, that wouldn't be 50 tons, but it could be a whole bunch of other stuff.

01:54:29.000 And that's why the report said this will be a significant challenge to future archaeologists.

01:54:36.000 This was written in 49. To future archaeologists.

01:54:41.000 And I'm going, wait, archaeologists are human things.

01:54:45.000 We're talking about paleontology, which is bone things.

01:54:49.000 But AM&H is the one that calls it archaeological exploration.

01:54:54.000 So do they have human bones as well?

01:55:00.000 Hypothetically.

01:55:01.000 So hypothetically, on your property, they found human bones too and just dumped them in the river?

01:55:06.000 If you...

01:55:07.000 Why would they do that?

01:55:11.000 Why don't they come clean with the saber-toothed tigers?

01:55:15.000 What do you mean by come clean with the saber-toothed tigers?

01:55:17.000 Well, the experts out there will tell you that saber-toothed tigers weren't found in Alaska.

01:55:23.000 But you have found saber-toothed tiger skulls.

01:55:25.000 Well, so have they.

01:55:26.000 I have a correspondence.

01:55:29.000 Posted recently.

01:55:30.000 Two pages.

01:55:32.000 It's filled with unbelievable things that...

01:55:37.000 Yeah, that's one right there.

01:55:40.000 That's Dirty Water Don.

01:55:41.000 It says that this is the lower jawbone to a step bison.

01:55:44.000 Yep.

01:55:45.000 He's got some other stuff in there too, right, Jamie?

01:55:47.000 Like maybe a tusk or something?

01:55:49.000 Some other things?

01:55:52.000 Yep.

01:55:52.000 Yeah, look at that bone.

01:55:53.000 Step bison.

01:55:54.000 Tibia.

01:55:57.000 So, what are you saying, though?

01:56:01.000 Why would they dump off human remains?

01:56:07.000 They say that, well, the letter says we have yet to find any human remains, but we found spear tips.

01:56:15.000 Well, we found mammoth bones with spear tips in them.

01:56:19.000 We found that stuff.

01:56:21.000 Do you have a photo of a mammoth bone with a spear tip in it?

01:56:24.000 Yeah, my daughter's...

01:56:26.000 Holding up a big mammoth hip bone and it's got a spear.

01:56:29.000 Where's that?

01:56:30.000 Bone rest of Alaska.

01:56:31.000 No, but where can we see that image?

01:56:34.000 On my page.

01:56:35.000 Oh, on your page.

01:56:36.000 Do you have that thing with the spear tip still in it?

01:56:39.000 Spear tip's out, but we have the bone.

01:56:41.000 We have a couple bones like that, Joe.

01:56:43.000 Why'd you take it out?

01:56:45.000 In fact, I posted a picture of 12, or I think it was around 12 spear points that were sent to AMNH that disappeared.

01:56:53.000 Shit disappeared.

01:56:55.000 Well, you know what?

01:56:56.000 I was talking to a guy the other day about this, and he was saying that he thinks what happens is, Dan Richards, that it goes to wealthy people.

01:57:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:57:04.000 The wealthy people offer them a bunch of money, wealthy donors.

01:57:08.000 They want to get it for their collection, and he was talking about a bunch of different stuff that goes missing.

01:57:15.000 I have a letter I just posted here, just in case we wanted to talk about it, from Childs Frick, who was head of AM&H back when this was all going on.

01:57:24.000 His dad was Henry Frick.

01:57:26.000 His dad was the most hated man in America for a while for killing his people.

01:57:30.000 He was a steel guy, a steel industry founder.

01:57:34.000 Killing his workers?

01:57:36.000 Yeah, they wanted overtime pay and they didn't want to work so hard.

01:57:39.000 He brought in the gang, those hired thugs, the Pinkertons or whoever it was.

01:57:47.000 And murdered people?

01:57:48.000 I don't know how many they killed of his guys.

01:57:51.000 He was ruthless.

01:57:53.000 Henry Frick was ruthless, and his kid Childs was the one that set this deal up, this tripartite agreement, which is also included in this letter, about AM&H's responsibility with these bones was to just take those of scientific value and do a report on every one they took.

01:58:11.000 They took over 40 years.

01:58:13.000 They took tons and tons and tons of them.

01:58:16.000 Did no reporting.

01:58:18.000 Nothing.

01:58:19.000 Dumped 50 tons in the river because they didn't have a place to store them, apparently.

01:58:23.000 But it didn't care.

01:58:25.000 But why would they dump human bones?

01:58:27.000 Because I would think that that would be very valuable.

01:58:31.000 You're saying archaeology.

01:58:32.000 So you think it's just spear tips and shit like that?

01:58:38.000 They found human bones.

01:58:39.000 I'm willing to say that.

01:58:40.000 They found them.

01:58:42.000 It would also be very confusing if you found Alaskan spear tips in the East River.

01:58:47.000 That would be the confusing thing for archaeologists, I would imagine.

01:58:50.000 They're saying two, kind of.

01:58:52.000 Right?

01:58:53.000 Well, you find a bone with a spear tip in it or a bone that obviously had a spear tip in it because of the way it's broken.

01:59:02.000 I mean, I have a baby mammoth hip bone that is like that.

01:59:05.000 Yeah.

01:59:06.000 Identified by a reputable paleontologist.

01:59:09.000 Here's just a for instance I stumbled across New York Times articles talking about.

01:59:13.000 Unearthing the secret of New York's mass graves.

01:59:16.000 Back from since the 19th century.

01:59:18.000 Wow.

01:59:18.000 Hiring prisoners for 50 cents an hour.

01:59:22.000 Jail inmates paid to move mass graves.

01:59:24.000 There would have been no markings of who was what.

01:59:27.000 Oh, so they dumped that in the river, too?

01:59:29.000 Look where it is.

01:59:31.000 They just dumped the bodies in the river.

01:59:34.000 How gross.

01:59:35.000 They didn't use coffins until recently.

01:59:38.000 That's nuts.

01:59:38.000 What about vampires?

01:59:40.000 Well, I mean, they put them in stuff, but a real nice box.

01:59:45.000 Come on, man.

01:59:46.000 Did you see Dracula?

01:59:48.000 Yeah.

01:59:49.000 People are gross.

01:59:50.000 You know, they've been throwing things in that river forever.

01:59:53.000 You know, like most of the world.

01:59:55.000 You go around rivers in most of the industrialized world, those rivers are disgusting.

01:59:59.000 Well, our state legislature, I told you last time I was going to go political on this.

02:00:04.000 I've got no desire to litigate this thing.

02:00:09.000 Litigation just takes a long time.

02:00:12.000 Politically, I told you last time, we're going to go this route.

02:00:18.000 A letter I just posted from the Alaska State Legislature to AMNH to return the bones from the Senate majority.

02:00:28.000 The guy that wrote that's a fellow by the name of Click Bishop, and the Senate president signed it with him.

02:00:37.000 But Click is a good, honest, decent, gold mining legislator.

02:00:43.000 He was termed out this time and decided not to run again.

02:00:46.000 Because I suspect he'll run for governor here, and he'll probably win in a couple years.

02:00:51.000 And Click is one of those guys that wants the bone back.

02:00:54.000 We met with him and his chief of staff, the president of the university, and the museum guys and some other state legislators.

02:01:03.000 And we want him back.

02:01:09.000 This is very interesting.

02:01:12.000 We understand there are unopened crates sitting in storage in New York.

02:01:15.000 They present an opportunity for further scientific discovery in fields such as paleontology, ecology, and anthropology.

02:01:23.000 Therefore, facilitating the return of this collection is crucial to ensure access for researchers, educators, and students within Alaska, thereby advancing scientific knowledge and understanding of the state's natural history.

02:01:34.000 There are researchers in Alaska ready and waiting to open these crates that have been collecting dust in your basement.

02:01:42.000 Get at it.

02:01:45.000 Give up the boxes.

02:01:47.000 Yeah.

02:01:48.000 Bring them home.

02:01:49.000 Well, I made the offer to build a research facility, store everything.

02:01:55.000 We'll bring them all back here.

02:01:57.000 The scientists can have access to them, but the bones are not leaving Alaska.

02:02:02.000 They're not leaving Alaska.

02:02:03.000 You don't trust them anymore?

02:02:04.000 Fuck no.

02:02:04.000 Why would you?

02:02:05.000 Why would I? Why would you?

02:02:06.000 I don't.

02:02:07.000 You shouldn't.

02:02:07.000 And I get a lot of people, oh, I need a mammoth bone for our studies.

02:02:13.000 You're just trying to collect something.

02:02:15.000 Yeah, fuck off.

02:02:16.000 I'll never get it back.

02:02:17.000 Come on up and find it.

02:02:18.000 Yeah.

02:02:19.000 You know, come find them.

02:02:20.000 They're all over the place.

02:02:21.000 That's what's nuts is that you keep finding them.

02:02:24.000 Like, what was that event like that led so many bodies to be in this small area?

02:02:29.000 Because you said it's only like five acres or something like that?

02:02:32.000 2.1.

02:02:33.000 Yeah, we added maybe another.1.

02:02:36.000 But there's another area that you said that's a little larger?

02:02:39.000 Yes, downstream makes this one look like a piker.

02:02:42.000 How big is that area?

02:02:44.000 It's a mile long.

02:02:45.000 Whoa.

02:02:46.000 And you're finding them there, too?

02:02:47.000 Oh, yeah.

02:02:49.000 So this main area where you're pulling most of this stuff is only 2.1 acres?

02:02:53.000 Yeah.

02:02:54.000 That's crazy.

02:02:55.000 That is, what a dump of bodies it must have been.

02:02:59.000 Yeah, it was incredible.

02:03:01.000 So when we started back down at the mouth and headed up the left limit, we hit some fairly modern-day drift mines on that side until we got farther up.

02:03:11.000 And we went all the way up to where we had been set up before, and we crossed back over, tracing this back channel, because that's where the gold was.

02:03:19.000 We didn't get maybe 50 feet, and we were finding these steel tubes sticking out of the ground.

02:03:25.000 Well, that's how they used to melt permafrost, but this was virgin ground.

02:03:29.000 It had never been mined.

02:03:30.000 So we kept going, and we found some pretty significant things over there.

02:03:37.000 And we're on the hunt.

02:03:41.000 I mean, imagine what the event must have looked like to lead all those bodies in one small area.

02:03:48.000 I mean, it only makes sense that that was a mass extinction event, right?

02:03:53.000 Am I wrong?

02:03:54.000 It went over thousands of years because we've dated anywhere from 40,000-year-old bones to, you know, 12,000-year-old bones in that deposit.

02:04:04.000 Wow!

02:04:05.000 So everything kept dying there.

02:04:08.000 So it might have been multiple events.

02:04:10.000 Yeah, might have been.

02:04:11.000 Well, that was one of the things they thought about the Younger Dryas Impact Theory, right?

02:04:14.000 They think there was multiple times where that happened.

02:04:17.000 And then, I wonder what the population density was like of animals back then, too.

02:04:23.000 Because if you do have these enormous animals that are very difficult for predators to hunt, and they manage to get into large numbers, and they can defend themselves.

02:04:31.000 Well, you have a large population of woolly mammoths and bisons and step bisons and fucking saber-toothed tigers up there.

02:04:39.000 What the fuck did that look like?

02:04:42.000 Like if you're finding that many bones, imagine going back in time 30,000 years ago and just being a fly on the wall and seeing what life was like back then.

02:04:50.000 Well, we can't seem to find anybody who's willing to come up there and study it.

02:04:54.000 You know, I've made all these offers.

02:04:55.000 Do you think it's because of the restrictions?

02:04:57.000 Because they're scared that you're going to own everything?

02:04:59.000 Well, two of the employees at AMNH... I happened to have a conversation with somebody that is related to the state of Alaska or employed by the state of Alaska where they said, we don't want the bones to get into Reeves' hands because they'll lose, the scientific community will no longer have access to them.

02:05:23.000 And they're real valuable and we think he's going to sell them.

02:05:27.000 Now, the people that he said that to was with the...

02:05:32.000 Some legislatures, university employees.

02:05:37.000 Where we were at, you couldn't even count the fucking number of tusks.

02:05:43.000 That's such an ignorant thing to say.

02:05:45.000 Because if you're going to sell them, you already have way more than you need to sell.

02:05:50.000 We're not there to sell tusks.

02:05:52.000 I want to figure out, and I'm goofball this way, what the fuck happened?

02:05:59.000 Why did 65% of the world's megafauna or North America, why did it go all extinct all at once?

02:06:06.000 Yeah.

02:06:07.000 What the fuck?

02:06:08.000 Yeah.

02:06:09.000 And they have, in that collection that they didn't dump in the river, in my collection was, let's say it's a 2,000 square foot or 2,000 piece jigsaw puzzle.

02:06:20.000 I got 42 pieces over here.

02:06:23.000 They got the rest.

02:06:25.000 I'm not going to solve anything with 42 pieces.

02:06:29.000 I want it all.

02:06:30.000 Put it all back in Alaska.

02:06:32.000 Let the state of Alaska study the fuck out of it.

02:06:34.000 And we will tell you how the extinction event happened.

02:06:40.000 Paleontologists know that.

02:06:41.000 But they don't have money.

02:06:44.000 They don't really want to put up with the shit they have to do to get it.

02:06:47.000 You know how hard it is to dig in ice in permafrost?

02:06:51.000 Well, I see those hoses you use.

02:06:53.000 Yeah, but I'm not digging it.

02:06:54.000 I'm thawing it.

02:06:55.000 Right.

02:06:56.000 Take a scalp.

02:06:57.000 You know how the paleontologists see them on TV with the little scalpel and toothbrush and shit.

02:07:02.000 Don't fly around there.

02:07:05.000 You've got to melt it and get it the hell out of there.

02:07:08.000 People criticize for how we do it.

02:07:11.000 But if we don't do it, we don't get it.

02:07:14.000 We're not going to use mechanical equipment on it because I don't want to destroy it.

02:07:18.000 I could strip that old 2.1 acres in two shifts.

02:07:24.000 And I'd lose every fucking bone.

02:07:26.000 We're going to be smashed.

02:07:27.000 Right.

02:07:28.000 You run a D10 across that stuff, they ain't going to survive, man.

02:07:32.000 Of course.

02:07:34.000 No, the way you're doing it seems like the only way to do it.

02:07:36.000 It is the only way to do it.

02:07:37.000 It's just all these paleontologists, they're all connected to universities, right?

02:07:42.000 They're all connected that way, and they don't want to piss off AM&H because we can't hire...

02:07:48.000 This guy needs our grant money to do what he does, or he needs to be our employee.

02:07:53.000 Hey, here's one for...

02:07:54.000 Here's one for Elon Musk and his Doge guys.

02:07:57.000 Go check into those guys and see where their money goes.

02:08:01.000 The M&H. See where their money goes.

02:08:03.000 The federal grants they get.

02:08:05.000 See where that stuff goes.

02:08:08.000 You know, might as well, because that's the only way you're going to bring them in to heel.

02:08:13.000 These guys have been running unfettered forever.

02:08:18.000 Nobody checks on it.

02:08:19.000 The management's horrible.

02:08:21.000 Nobody comes in and says, What did you spend that $2 million on?

02:08:26.000 I don't know.

02:08:27.000 Look at that funny-looking bird over there.

02:08:31.000 It's out of control.

02:08:33.000 Do you know this for a fact?

02:08:34.000 Have you looked into it?

02:08:36.000 Do you know how they run it?

02:08:37.000 Or are you just basing this on your interactions with them?

02:08:39.000 I'm basing it on my interactions with them, but I will tell you this.

02:08:43.000 One of the main people that people say, you need to litigate this.

02:08:48.000 You need to sue their ass.

02:08:49.000 I'm pretty good at that.

02:08:52.000 I've been involved in two of the longest lawsuits in state history.

02:08:55.000 And I've won both of them.

02:08:56.000 I'm betting, like, Hall of Fame kind of stuff.

02:09:00.000 But the guy that made the deal with me is...

02:09:06.000 I can't depose him.

02:09:12.000 I can't depose him.

02:09:14.000 It's like be deposing a cabbage and a head of lettuce.

02:09:18.000 What do you mean?

02:09:19.000 He's like Biden.

02:09:21.000 Oh, he's gone?

02:09:22.000 That's what I hear.

02:09:24.000 Oh.

02:09:24.000 But he's still employed.

02:09:26.000 He's still pulling in a pretty good paycheck.

02:09:29.000 To me, that, you know, maybe you do that in the private sector.

02:09:35.000 Maybe you do it, and I don't know how much money that AM&H gets from the feds, but we looked into it a little bit.

02:09:42.000 They get some.

02:09:43.000 If they don't want to give Alaska, the state of Alaska, if you look at who wrote that letter, it's not John Reeves now.

02:09:50.000 It's the state of fucking Alaska.

02:09:54.000 And I told you.

02:09:56.000 It's the only way to get them back.

02:09:58.000 We gotta get our politicians up there going, no, no, no, no, no.

02:10:02.000 And are they willing to do this?

02:10:03.000 They just wrote a letter saying what you're supposed to do.

02:10:06.000 So what's the next step?

02:10:07.000 I don't know.

02:10:08.000 We haven't gotten a response from that fucking letter.

02:10:10.000 Do they have to respond?

02:10:12.000 Apparently not.

02:10:13.000 Yeah, that's part of the problem, right?

02:10:15.000 Fuck these guys.

02:10:16.000 They're not accountable.

02:10:17.000 Fuck them.

02:10:17.000 Fuck this dirt tramp up there.

02:10:19.000 They're the AMNH. They're a prestigious institution that's beyond reproach, sir.

02:10:27.000 And I said, I know.

02:10:29.000 You know, if you have the politics lined up right, and you see the right people where they should be, and you got people that want to just do...

02:10:36.000 That's all I want to do is the right thing.

02:10:38.000 Right.

02:10:38.000 Just do the right thing.

02:10:39.000 Is the AMNH, is that where you go to see the dinosaurs?

02:10:42.000 Yeah.

02:10:43.000 Well, they do that.

02:10:44.000 That's cool.

02:10:45.000 Yeah.

02:10:47.000 Drew and I, my wife and Laura went to New York to meet with AM&H and they had to stand in the rain for four hours and then wouldn't meet with us.

02:10:57.000 Really?

02:10:58.000 Yeah.

02:10:58.000 Oh yeah, you told me this.

02:10:59.000 Yeah.

02:11:00.000 Yeah, I'm not surprised.

02:11:02.000 You're a problem.

02:11:03.000 They'd rather just avoid you than deal with whatever happened when they dumped 50 tons of bones in the East River and they have a bunch more just sitting there.

02:11:13.000 What do you think they would discover?

02:11:15.000 If you got it all, what would be best case scenario?

02:11:18.000 You get all the bones back.

02:11:20.000 Alaska wins.

02:11:21.000 You bring researchers over there.

02:11:23.000 They work with you.

02:11:24.000 What do you think they discover?

02:11:26.000 They discover why all this megafauna, what happened?

02:11:30.000 Why did the sea levels rise 400 feet all at once?

02:11:33.000 What went on here?

02:11:35.000 There's animals that we found they said didn't exist there.

02:11:38.000 Now, they haven't amended that even though you found those?

02:11:41.000 That seems crazy to me.

02:11:43.000 They're doing a little backpedaling now.

02:11:45.000 What they need to do is put all the pieces of the puzzle on the table and start putting it together.

02:11:52.000 So you found, tell me the animals that you found that are there that aren't supposed to be there.

02:11:56.000 Sabertooth tiger is one of them, right?

02:11:57.000 Dire wolves.

02:11:58.000 Dire wolves, wow.

02:12:00.000 Badgers.

02:12:01.000 Badgers?

02:12:02.000 Badgers.

02:12:03.000 They're not supposed to be there?

02:12:04.000 We told you elk last time, and you pointed out there's an island that has some elk on it.

02:12:09.000 Yeah.

02:12:09.000 But they were planted there.

02:12:10.000 They're not.

02:12:11.000 Oh, they were?

02:12:12.000 Yeah.

02:12:12.000 Elk were not known to be.

02:12:18.000 We found four of them.

02:12:24.000 So moose were up there.

02:12:26.000 And there was a transition from grasslands, which is good for the mammoth and the bison and the horses and the caribou, to the woodlands where browsers could feed the mastodons, the mammoths, or not the mammoths, the...

02:12:43.000 Other animals that ate that kind of stuff, and the carnivores were having a field day.

02:12:47.000 They didn't care who's eating what.

02:12:50.000 Do you think they brought in elk to hunt, or do you think they brought them in just to have them there?

02:12:57.000 I think, no, they weren't brought in.

02:12:59.000 Check how did elk get on a Fognac Island.

02:13:02.000 They brought them there in 1929. 1929. Eight calves moved from Washington.

02:13:07.000 Wow, just ate in Washington.

02:13:09.000 That makes sense, because they're Roosevelt elk.

02:13:11.000 That totally makes sense.

02:13:12.000 Roosevelt elk are a larger-bodied animal that has smaller antlers than a Rocky Mountain.

02:13:18.000 Yeah, Roosevelt elk in Alaska originated from a transplant of eight calves, captured an Olympic peninsula of Washington State in 1928 and moved to a Fognac Island in 1929. Wow.

02:13:29.000 That's crazy.

02:13:30.000 We find sheds of the elk.

02:13:33.000 Of the antlers?

02:13:34.000 Oh, yeah.

02:13:34.000 Wow.

02:13:35.000 And those are like thousands of years old.

02:13:39.000 Really?

02:13:40.000 Yeah.

02:13:40.000 So they were there already.

02:13:41.000 Well, that's the thing about elk in this country.

02:13:44.000 They came across the bridge.

02:13:44.000 Right.

02:13:45.000 Yeah.

02:13:46.000 In this country, they used to be everywhere.

02:13:47.000 And then people just wiped them out when they had market hunting.

02:13:51.000 That's, you know, when they made it illegal to sell wild game, that was the reason for it.

02:13:56.000 Because everybody was poor.

02:13:57.000 People were just killing everything they could.

02:14:00.000 And they almost wiped them out.

02:14:02.000 They wiped out a lot of species.

02:14:04.000 Like elk used to be in every state.

02:14:06.000 And now they're, you know, in a handful.

02:14:08.000 They've repopulated them in some areas.

02:14:11.000 Pennsylvania, Kentucky, there's been a bunch of success stories of repopulating elk to the point where they can hunt them now.

02:14:17.000 But they used to be everywhere, including Texas.

02:14:20.000 Whoa!

02:14:21.000 Whoa!

02:14:23.000 That's the one that had a spear tip in it.

02:14:24.000 Really?

02:14:25.000 Do you have a photo of it with the spear tip in it?

02:14:26.000 I have a little video of it.

02:14:29.000 Where?

02:14:30.000 It's on my phone somewhere.

02:14:31.000 God damn it, find it.

02:14:34.000 I want to see it.

02:14:35.000 I will.

02:14:35.000 I'll find it.

02:14:36.000 I would never take that spear point out.

02:14:39.000 I'd have that thing on display.

02:14:40.000 That is the coolest thing ever.

02:14:42.000 The spear point inside of a mammoth bone?

02:14:44.000 It's just stuck right in it.

02:14:45.000 Fuck, that's cool.

02:14:46.000 I have another picture up there if you want to pull that bison head up.

02:14:50.000 The spear point in it, still in it.

02:14:52.000 Really?

02:14:52.000 Right here.

02:14:53.000 Oh my god.

02:14:54.000 By the eyes.

02:14:55.000 Where's that?

02:14:55.000 Not that one.

02:14:57.000 It was fairly recently, Jamie.

02:14:59.000 Oh really?

02:15:00.000 That I posted it, yeah.

02:15:03.000 Without a doubt, Mike.

02:15:05.000 You're going the wrong way.

02:15:07.000 Well, there's the Trump thing.

02:15:08.000 We should go read the comments.

02:15:12.000 You're a terrible person.

02:15:16.000 Here's Click Bishop.

02:15:18.000 He's the senator that sent the letter.

02:15:20.000 Keep going.

02:15:21.000 Shout out to Click.

02:15:22.000 Yeah.

02:15:24.000 It's in there?

02:15:25.000 Somewhere.

02:15:28.000 How often do you post?

02:15:30.000 I posted these to make it easier for Jamie to find.

02:15:32.000 I'm back months now.

02:15:34.000 I was going back to the top of your feed.

02:15:35.000 Was it months ago or was it recently?

02:15:39.000 Probably in the last week or two.

02:15:41.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

02:15:42.000 Sorry, I gave you the wrong direction.

02:15:43.000 See it anywhere?

02:15:51.000 Whoa.

02:15:52.000 Look at that skull.

02:15:53.000 Yeah, keep going.

02:16:00.000 Hmm.

02:16:04.000 That's a mammoth brain by those sunglasses.

02:16:06.000 Really?

02:16:06.000 That's a brain?

02:16:07.000 Yep.

02:16:08.000 Half of one.

02:16:09.000 So was that mineralized?

02:16:11.000 It was found frozen, dehydrated.

02:16:14.000 That's what that looks like?

02:16:15.000 Wow.

02:16:16.000 What'd you do with that thing?

02:16:18.000 It's in the freezer.

02:16:21.000 Right next to the frozen pizza?

02:16:24.000 Go down next to the ice cream.

02:16:26.000 Yeah, that's a mammoth brain.

02:16:27.000 That's 30,000 years old.

02:16:28.000 There's another one that got hit by a spear.

02:16:30.000 Wow.

02:16:33.000 That's a little mammoth.

02:16:34.000 That's some fucking penetration right there, Jack.

02:16:37.000 Yep.

02:16:38.000 That's amazing.

02:16:40.000 But where's this skull?

02:16:42.000 Where's this skull?

02:16:42.000 Oh, there it is, right there.

02:16:43.000 Where?

02:16:44.000 Right smack dab in the middle.

02:16:46.000 That one?

02:16:46.000 Yep.

02:16:47.000 Where's the point?

02:16:48.000 Right by the arrow.

02:16:50.000 Right by the arrow?

02:16:51.000 Yep.

02:16:52.000 Go up right there.

02:16:53.000 Where?

02:16:54.000 Where the cursor was.

02:16:56.000 Right there.

02:16:57.000 That's a tip?

02:16:58.000 Yep.

02:16:59.000 Whoa!

02:17:00.000 So it's kind of mineralized, too.

02:17:02.000 Yep.

02:17:02.000 Stuck right in it, welded to its face.

02:17:04.000 Whoa!

02:17:08.000 How did you know that that's what that was?

02:17:11.000 It looks like a tumor to me.

02:17:13.000 Did you have to clean it up to see the difference?

02:17:16.000 It's been cleaned up quite a bit.

02:17:17.000 It's not bone, it's stone.

02:17:19.000 Wow.

02:17:20.000 And you're going to leave it in there like that?

02:17:22.000 Yep.

02:17:23.000 Did you get an x-ray of it or anything so you could see it?

02:17:26.000 No.

02:17:26.000 Oh, I'd want to see that.

02:17:29.000 That's amazing.

02:17:30.000 What is it like being on a piece of land that at one point in time was just like this insane habitat?

02:17:39.000 I mean, it must have like some bizarre feel to just the land itself when you're pulling out saber-toothed tiger skulls and woolly mammoth tusks and it just must feel insane that you're pulling all this stuff out of the ground that you live on.

02:17:52.000 Well, we live in the Ice Age.

02:17:55.000 We go to work in the morning, we're in the Ice Age.

02:17:57.000 Yeah.

02:17:58.000 It's a different...

02:17:59.000 Way to think.

02:18:00.000 You see something and you go, okay, what the fuck?

02:18:06.000 What is this?

02:18:09.000 You find something and you go, that's not human.

02:18:13.000 I mean, that tool was made by a human.

02:18:18.000 If you go back to that...

02:18:19.000 But also, if you find humans, you've got to hug and keep it on the DL. I think so.

02:18:23.000 I would imagine.

02:18:25.000 I don't know.

02:18:26.000 I don't know either.

02:18:27.000 I don't know nothing.

02:18:28.000 But I would imagine if I found some humans, I wouldn't tell nobody.

02:18:31.000 Well, we found that one tool that was obviously shaped by humans.

02:18:35.000 Right.

02:18:36.000 Carbon dated 25,000 years old.

02:18:38.000 Wow.

02:18:39.000 And it looks like it was sawed.

02:18:41.000 And it looks just like if I was to take this cup, you know, you hold it in your hand, just like something to mash anything with.

02:18:52.000 Right.

02:18:53.000 Like a mortar.

02:18:54.000 Tenderized.

02:18:55.000 There it is.

02:18:55.000 Is that it right there?

02:18:56.000 Yep.

02:18:56.000 So that's a stone tool.

02:18:58.000 No, that's mammoth bone.

02:18:59.000 Mammoth bone.

02:19:00.000 But if you look on the next picture.

02:19:02.000 So the bottom of that thing was, oh, wow.

02:19:04.000 That's 25,000 years old.

02:19:06.000 Yep.

02:19:06.000 And it's sawed off at the bottom.

02:19:08.000 Yep.

02:19:08.000 That's nuts.

02:19:09.000 And if you look closely, you can see the, there's some kind of organic material in some of those cracks and crevices.

02:19:16.000 And you see some Schrager lines in there.

02:19:18.000 What is a Schrager line?

02:19:19.000 Does that mean like saw?

02:19:21.000 That's a line in the mammoth ivory that's different than elephant ivory.

02:19:25.000 Oh.

02:19:25.000 You can tell the difference.

02:19:28.000 And this was probably sawed off a long time ago, and now it's kind of fossilized, right?

02:19:36.000 Without any prompting, Joe, I've given that thing to other people to hold.

02:19:44.000 It sits like that.

02:19:46.000 They pick it up.

02:19:48.000 It's the first thing they fucking do.

02:19:50.000 Really?

02:19:51.000 It's like, I know what this is.

02:19:53.000 So it's a tool.

02:19:55.000 Everybody picks it up.

02:19:57.000 Well, whatever it is, it certainly seems like humans made it.

02:20:02.000 There's no way you get something that's that flat out of nature.

02:20:06.000 And it's not like those things snap off.

02:20:08.000 They're not like elk antlers.

02:20:09.000 They don't regrow them, right?

02:20:11.000 Well, the other thing is, I said this last time, I'll say it again.

02:20:16.000 We've lived with woolly mammoths for tens of thousands of years.

02:20:20.000 We know what that thing, what that tool is.

02:20:24.000 It's in our DNA. First thing we do when we pick it up, boom, boom, boom.

02:20:29.000 We don't feel like that about rats.

02:20:35.000 Willy Mammoth, little kids love them.

02:20:38.000 Parents love them.

02:20:39.000 Everybody likes Willy Mammoths.

02:20:40.000 You think it's our DNA because we used to hunt them?

02:20:42.000 Fuck, no.

02:20:43.000 We live with them.

02:20:44.000 I think we domesticated them.

02:20:46.000 What?

02:20:46.000 I think we live side by side with them.

02:20:49.000 Really?

02:20:50.000 I really do.

02:20:51.000 Why do you think they domesticated them?

02:20:52.000 What makes you think that?

02:20:53.000 Okay, you got a big hairy animal.

02:20:55.000 Right.

02:20:57.000 Boy, they got some, like, muskox.

02:20:59.000 Let's get some of this and make clothing out of it.

02:21:02.000 Let's take this fur.

02:21:04.000 Right, but why that, why domesticate them versus hunt them?

02:21:09.000 Hunt them with a spear?

02:21:10.000 I mean, you can knock one over if it's dead or you stick a spear in it, crippled.

02:21:15.000 But do you think they actually kept them as, like, stock?

02:21:18.000 No, I think they just lived together.

02:21:19.000 They just lived together.

02:21:20.000 Yeah, they didn't.

02:21:21.000 It's like that polar bear you saw walk up that guy's truck.

02:21:23.000 Uh-huh.

02:21:24.000 And one of them would go, what the fuck?

02:21:26.000 What are you going to do to me?

02:21:27.000 Right.

02:21:28.000 Well, if you want to kill half your tribe, go try to stick a spear in that guy.

02:21:32.000 Right.

02:21:33.000 He's got 10-foot tusks.

02:21:35.000 Right.

02:21:36.000 He'll clear the field.

02:21:38.000 And also, you've got to penetrate all that fur and all that hide.

02:21:42.000 With a spear.

02:21:43.000 With a spear that you're throwing.

02:21:45.000 And people go, well, they had adalattle.

02:21:47.000 Okay.

02:21:48.000 Where are you going to?

02:21:49.000 Build an atlatl on a grassland.

02:21:51.000 Right.

02:21:52.000 Where there's no sticks.

02:21:53.000 Well, how are they making a spear then?

02:21:55.000 Well, I don't know.

02:21:57.000 How are they making a spear?

02:21:58.000 They must have some sticks, right?

02:21:59.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:22:01.000 They had spears.

02:22:02.000 If they had wood big enough for a spear, but atlatls are not spear size.

02:22:07.000 Well, it's a different shape, certainly.

02:22:08.000 But if you have enough wood to make a spear, wouldn't you have enough wood to make an atlatl?

02:22:13.000 I mean, when's the invention of the atlatl?

02:22:15.000 I don't know.

02:22:16.000 Let's find that out.

02:22:17.000 But if you had a spear...

02:22:19.000 That you crafted.

02:22:20.000 We have a picture of spear tips that were sent to New York.

02:22:24.000 And that other document in there talks about finding them in association with the bones.

02:22:31.000 They weren't studying this stuff.

02:22:33.000 They just wanted, AM&H just wanted the booty.

02:22:36.000 That guy Charles Frick wanted these things back in New York City.

02:22:41.000 So here's the Adelaus.

02:22:42.000 17,000 to 21,000 years ago.

02:22:45.000 So if it's 25,000 years ago, it might not even be an atlatl.

02:22:49.000 But who knows how accurate they are with this?

02:22:52.000 I mean, that's a big gap 17,000 to 21,000 years ago.

02:22:57.000 This is also people that didn't think that saber-toothed tigers lived in Alaska.

02:23:02.000 It's all artists' renditions.

02:23:04.000 All of the stuff that we've been taught is based on what somebody painted or drew or sketched.

02:23:10.000 Or they initially established and now they've been defending that timeline.

02:23:13.000 Or even some of the cave drawings that shows people sitting on woolly mammoths.

02:23:18.000 Really?

02:23:18.000 Yeah, I've seen them before online.

02:23:20.000 You know, if you believe everything you see.

02:23:22.000 Like when Ted Nugent rode that buffalo on stage?

02:23:25.000 Like that kind of thing?

02:23:25.000 That was good.

02:23:28.000 But that kind of thing.

02:23:29.000 You know, like they domesticated them.

02:23:32.000 That's interesting.

02:23:33.000 Well, we know humans have domesticated elephants.

02:23:36.000 Right?

02:23:36.000 And they did it a long time ago, and they rode elephants.

02:23:38.000 I mean, we know they do it in India.

02:23:40.000 Yeah, you rode them.

02:23:41.000 Yeah, I rode them in Thailand.

02:23:43.000 I don't recommend it.

02:23:44.000 Yeah.

02:23:45.000 Just seems like it'd go wrong.

02:23:48.000 Yeah, I don't think that'll be part of my thing.

02:23:51.000 Yeah, you make friends with them first.

02:23:53.000 They have a whole process you do.

02:23:54.000 You feed them.

02:23:55.000 You give them sugar cane.

02:23:56.000 You hose them down.

02:23:58.000 Take care of them.

02:23:59.000 You be nice to them first, and then they let you ride them.

02:24:02.000 But you gotta be nice to them even when you're riding them.

02:24:04.000 You have to have, like, good energy.

02:24:06.000 I don't think they necessarily enjoy having a little fucking human on their back.

02:24:11.000 So it's like, it's their world.

02:24:13.000 It just seems like a dumb idea.

02:24:15.000 Like, I'm happy just petting you and giving you food.

02:24:18.000 I don't need to ride you.

02:24:19.000 This is pretty badass looking.

02:24:20.000 Is that an atlatl?

02:24:21.000 I think this might be the one they found.

02:24:23.000 Whoa.

02:24:23.000 In a cave in France.

02:24:25.000 Wow.

02:24:26.000 Antler.

02:24:27.000 Carved out of antler.

02:24:28.000 Wow.

02:24:29.000 Who's a wizard that figured out how to make something to...

02:24:32.000 Put extra leverage on a spear.

02:24:35.000 His name was Hook Musk.

02:24:37.000 That was the other thing that Dan Richards was bringing up, like the fact that bow and arrow is a difficult thing to invent, but yet they invented it all over the world.

02:24:46.000 Does that make sense?

02:24:47.000 Or were people traveling from all over the world with the technology of the bow and arrow and spreading it around the world?

02:24:54.000 You say, that might make more sense than all these people from all these different spots, all figuring out this complicated thing where you get a thing, you pull it back, you get a string, and you're letting loose that, and the arrow has to fly perfect.

02:25:07.000 More likely, someone figured it out in some place, and it was so awesome that they started spreading that idea across the world.

02:25:14.000 Yeah, and it takes a while back then to get the word out.

02:25:18.000 Yeah.

02:25:18.000 I mean, people had to travel to spread the word.

02:25:20.000 They didn't...

02:25:21.000 I don't think they had smoke signals.

02:25:23.000 They could explain it in the sky.

02:25:25.000 I don't think you'd be able to explain a bow and arrow in the sky with smoke signals.

02:25:28.000 I'm willing to go on a limb on that.

02:25:30.000 We come up with the expression, the cloud.

02:25:32.000 We use the cloud now.

02:25:35.000 Yeah, that was the original cloud.

02:25:36.000 Smoke clouds.

02:25:37.000 But, I mean, what did they send?

02:25:39.000 Did they have a code when they had smoke signals?

02:25:42.000 Or was it just the smoke itself?

02:25:47.000 Yeah.

02:25:48.000 I had no idea.

02:25:49.000 So you found spear tips.

02:25:52.000 Have you found arrowheads as well?

02:25:54.000 Not arrowheads.

02:25:54.000 Only spear tips.

02:25:55.000 So it's more primitive.

02:25:57.000 Yeah, and the way we collect, we don't get all the small stuff, but we bale all the small stuff out of the drainage and we stack it so it can be gotten later.

02:26:07.000 We don't lose any of it.

02:26:09.000 But you might have a bunch of like...

02:26:12.000 Spearheads just laying around.

02:26:13.000 I bet we have millions of what I call microfossils.

02:26:17.000 Millions.

02:26:17.000 Really?

02:26:18.000 And the stuff that we bail with the equipment and just stack it up.

02:26:21.000 When you first discovered the saber-toothed tiger head, when was that?

02:26:27.000 I found one in 1974. That was the first one?

02:26:31.000 Yeah, but I was mining up north.

02:26:32.000 And when you found that, what was the reaction to that?

02:26:35.000 Did it have the teeth in it and everything, or was it just...

02:26:38.000 It had one full tooth and one broken half.

02:26:41.000 Really?

02:26:42.000 And I think I told you, the British Museum visited.

02:26:46.000 Yeah.

02:26:47.000 Guy offered to take it back and clean it and restore it and send it back to me.

02:26:51.000 Never saw it again.

02:26:52.000 Of course.

02:26:54.000 The one that was sent to the...

02:26:55.000 How fucking gross is that?

02:26:56.000 That they just keep doing that same shit?

02:26:58.000 They do it all.

02:26:59.000 That's what they do.

02:27:00.000 Yeah.

02:27:01.000 In the last year or two...

02:27:02.000 Why should you have it?

02:27:03.000 This is important for humanity.

02:27:05.000 Some dirty goldminder.

02:27:07.000 The Smithsonian, Ammonish got in trouble for grave robbing.

02:27:14.000 Most museums have done that.

02:27:16.000 They've taken artifacts from cultures and they just keep them.

02:27:19.000 So these people, they found this saber, they got this saber tiger.

02:27:21.000 Wow!

02:27:22.000 Look at that one.

02:27:24.000 That's a cave lion skull that we found.

02:27:25.000 Holy shit!

02:27:27.000 Was that supposed to be there?

02:27:28.000 The cave lion?

02:27:29.000 Yes.

02:27:30.000 That's the best one ever found in Alaska.

02:27:33.000 Wow.

02:27:34.000 My son Kinsey and I found that together.

02:27:37.000 Fucking A. That thing's amazing.

02:27:39.000 Look at the teeth on that thing.

02:27:41.000 Yep.

02:27:42.000 So this saber-tooth skull is probably very valuable that you found.

02:27:47.000 Yeah.

02:27:48.000 Because I've seen them for sale.

02:27:51.000 Right.

02:27:51.000 And AM&H says they don't have one, but we were going through the shipping records and we can see where they were shipped one.

02:27:57.000 The correspondence that I just posted talks about them, getting them, and camels, and others.

02:28:05.000 You know, other things that were sent somehow disappeared.

02:28:09.000 Does Lorenzo Fertitta have a saber-tooth skull in his office?

02:28:14.000 See if that's true.

02:28:16.000 Lorenzo Fertitta is one of the gentlemen who owned the UFC before they sold it to WME. Billionaire character, loved MMA, and really was the reason why the UFC blew up, along with Dana White and his brother Frank.

02:28:30.000 Yeah, because he bought it from a museum in Dallas.

02:28:32.000 Yeah, let me see what that looks like.

02:28:33.000 I think it's like...

02:28:34.000 A lot of money.

02:28:35.000 So if you think about your skull and this asshole gets a hold of it, there's probably some asshole over there that's really rich.

02:28:42.000 I was offered 85 grand for that one.

02:28:46.000 Yeah.

02:28:47.000 Yeah.

02:28:49.000 Whoa!

02:28:51.000 Holy shit!

02:28:53.000 Holy shit's right.

02:28:54.000 Holy shit.

02:28:56.000 How fucking amazing must that thing have been to see live?

02:29:02.000 They got a bunch of Mint La Brea tar pits.

02:29:05.000 I mean, a bunch.

02:29:07.000 How much did Lorenzo Fertitta pay for the one?

02:29:09.000 I didn't see it.

02:29:10.000 There's this article that had words that didn't have the picture of it.

02:29:13.000 Did you Google Lorenzo Fertittas and see images?

02:29:17.000 I mean, that shows me other favorites.

02:29:19.000 I can't...

02:29:19.000 What about that article?

02:29:21.000 That first article?

02:29:22.000 No picture of it?

02:29:23.000 No picture.

02:29:23.000 How dare you, Bloody Elbow?

02:29:25.000 You would think that a website called BloodyElbow.com would really be on top of it.

02:29:29.000 It was 15 years old?

02:29:30.000 That's 2010?

02:29:32.000 12 was when the article was posted.

02:29:33.000 Oh, wow.

02:29:33.000 There's $160,000 there.

02:29:35.000 What?

02:29:37.000 It's only $160,000?

02:29:39.000 Fossilized saber-tooth type.

02:29:39.000 Oh, I thought it was like millions.

02:29:41.000 Could be small, too.

02:29:43.000 I don't know.

02:29:44.000 Yeah, I wonder what that one that was sold at the auction went for.

02:29:47.000 How fucking cool are those things, though, man?

02:29:49.000 Like, what a wild, amazing design that nature created.

02:29:56.000 This is a whole skeleton?

02:29:57.000 Fuck.

02:30:00.000 40 million years old, it says.

02:30:04.000 Wow.

02:30:07.000 How many of you have you found up there of saber-tooth skulls?

02:30:11.000 Two.

02:30:12.000 Just two?

02:30:15.000 Wow.

02:30:16.000 When you come up, give me enough of an advance notice and maybe send Jamie up in advance and we'll...

02:30:28.000 Jamie never leaves his apartment.

02:30:29.000 He's not going to go to Alaska.

02:30:30.000 Look at him.

02:30:31.000 What's he going to do with Carl?

02:30:33.000 Can he bring Carl up there?

02:30:33.000 Carl won't survive.

02:30:35.000 Carl will get along just fine with our dogs.

02:30:36.000 He'll run off.

02:30:38.000 We'll put up a putting green for him.

02:30:40.000 He'll attack your dogs.

02:30:41.000 He's a little torpedo.

02:30:44.000 You need to start coming up there in the summer and we'll do some podcasts from Fairbanks, the Bone Crew.

02:30:52.000 Bring your friends with you.

02:30:54.000 It'd be like, protect our parks, only parks only different.

02:30:58.000 Protect our parks in Fairbanks.

02:30:59.000 That would be fun.

02:31:00.000 It would be fun.

02:31:01.000 That would be a good one.

02:31:02.000 To do it at your area, where you do it.

02:31:04.000 Put it in an archive building.

02:31:06.000 Take a day.

02:31:07.000 Tour the site.

02:31:10.000 Yeah.

02:31:11.000 It's just, I want more people to know about it.

02:31:14.000 I really do, because I don't think I've ever heard of anything like that.

02:31:17.000 I don't think I've ever heard of a spot like that, where there's that many woolly mammoth bones.

02:31:23.000 Cave bear bones and all this shit you're pulling out of the ground.

02:31:27.000 We have fun with it.

02:31:28.000 How many different dead animals?

02:31:31.000 Like different extinct types of animals?

02:31:34.000 At least half a dozen.

02:31:36.000 Wow.

02:31:37.000 At least.

02:31:37.000 I mean, it's just...

02:31:38.000 I don't know because we have 300,000 fossils.

02:31:41.000 And you haven't examined all?

02:31:43.000 Oh, fuck no.

02:31:43.000 No.

02:31:44.000 We only have time to pick them up.

02:31:45.000 And maybe I'll take a picture.

02:31:47.000 Or maybe Drew will or one of my guys, my kids, my wife.

02:31:51.000 Somebody might take a picture of it.

02:31:53.000 Or we'll take a picture of them holding it.

02:31:55.000 It seems like such a lost opportunity to know about things.

02:31:59.000 And unless you're willing to give in to these guys who have obviously been deceptive with you in the past, how do you get real studies done up there?

02:32:07.000 It's such a conundrum.

02:32:09.000 The bones ain't going anywhere.

02:32:10.000 Right.

02:32:11.000 If the timing ain't right, the timing ain't right.

02:32:15.000 If the politics aren't right, I'm not going to litigate this.

02:32:19.000 It's not worth my time.

02:32:22.000 It's also, they've shown that they're not willing to be honest with you.

02:32:26.000 The people with the British Museum that stole your sable-tooth tiger skull, what's going on with the AMNH, like, why would you work with anybody when you don't have to?

02:32:35.000 No.

02:32:36.000 I don't want to.

02:32:38.000 If they're not going to play fair, I don't want to play with them.

02:32:41.000 It's such a fucking shame because it's an amazing sight.

02:32:45.000 It's such an amazing area that I would think that they would be flocking to try to work with you.

02:32:51.000 Just do anything they can just for the information.

02:32:55.000 I mean, think of how many discoveries...

02:32:57.000 First of all, the proven fact that saber-toothed tigers lived in a place they didn't think they lived.

02:33:01.000 That alone should be worthy of discovery.

02:33:06.000 You need to take a leak?

02:33:07.000 We can wrap this up.

02:33:08.000 No, no, no, no.

02:33:09.000 I got stuff.

02:33:09.000 I'm not done yet.

02:33:10.000 Oh, we're not done yet.

02:33:11.000 This is Dana Skull.

02:33:12.000 Dana has one?

02:33:13.000 Yeah.

02:33:13.000 Oh, geez.

02:33:14.000 Look at that thing.

02:33:14.000 That's what I read through the article and it was saying Dana bought it from a museum.

02:33:17.000 Holy shit.

02:33:18.000 That's amazing.

02:33:19.000 Alright, we'll take a leak.

02:33:20.000 We'll be right back.

02:33:22.000 Dana White got an awesome skull.

02:33:23.000 Alright, we're back, sir.

02:33:25.000 Well, that pneumonia has a certain amount of recovery time.

02:33:28.000 I'm sure.

02:33:28.000 How long is it?

02:33:30.000 Three months, maybe.

02:33:31.000 Really?

02:33:32.000 Goddamn.

02:33:34.000 Took 50 years for me to fuck up my lungs.

02:33:37.000 But I'm cleaning them up now.

02:33:41.000 Well, now's as good as time as ever.

02:33:44.000 Just definitely better now than tomorrow.

02:33:46.000 It's the only time.

02:33:47.000 Yeah.

02:33:49.000 So, where were we?

02:33:51.000 Dana White has a giant saber-toothed tiger head in his office.

02:33:56.000 And you were telling me you had topics that you wanted to cover, that you brought notes.

02:34:00.000 Well, we were talking about the gas line.

02:34:03.000 Right.

02:34:04.000 Got that going.

02:34:06.000 No, there's no worry at all about the environment with these gas lines?

02:34:09.000 There always is.

02:34:10.000 You're going to have people soothe people.

02:34:12.000 We don't want this.

02:34:13.000 We, Alaska's...

02:34:15.000 They're worried about environmental disasters, right?

02:34:17.000 Yeah, but that oil pipeline has been running for a long time.

02:34:21.000 It provides 12% of our country's gas, oil.

02:34:25.000 No problems.

02:34:27.000 Well, we had a problem at, you know, Bly Reef.

02:34:31.000 What was that?

02:34:33.000 Exxon Valdez.

02:34:34.000 Oh, yeah, that was a big problem.

02:34:36.000 Yeah.

02:34:37.000 Yeah, I remember that was 1988, right?

02:34:40.000 Wasn't it?

02:34:41.000 I don't remember the exact date.

02:34:44.000 I think it was.

02:34:45.000 Because I remember people were freaking out that that thing wrecked and emptied out a whole oil tanker.

02:34:54.000 89. Exxon Valdez oil tanker ran aground.

02:34:58.000 Bly Reef and Alaska's Prince William Sound spill released more than 11 million gallons of crude oil.

02:35:03.000 The largest oil spill in U.S. history at the time.

02:35:05.000 But that's probably not nearly as much as that one that blew out in the ocean.

02:35:11.000 That was just spraying oil.

02:35:12.000 I mean, that had to be.

02:35:14.000 Probably more than that.

02:35:16.000 You're talking about the one overseas or the one here?

02:35:19.000 The one here.

02:35:21.000 Yes, that one.

02:35:23.000 How much did that release?

02:35:26.000 That's what people are scared of.

02:35:27.000 It was continuously releasing oil and natural gas for 87 days.

02:35:32.000 Jeez.

02:35:34.000 Well, I brought you some goodies.

02:35:36.000 What'd you bring?

02:35:37.000 Well, some things that you can remind you of the boneyard.

02:35:44.000 Oh, okay.

02:35:45.000 We make a little bag here for you too, Jimmy.

02:35:53.000 What do you got here, buddy?

02:35:56.000 Stuff.

02:35:57.000 Stuff?

02:35:57.000 Stuff that Drew and I make.

02:35:59.000 Oh, guitar picks.

02:36:01.000 Oh, snap.

02:36:03.000 Didn't we give one to Gary Clark Jr.?

02:36:05.000 Yeah, you did.

02:36:06.000 Thank you for that.

02:36:07.000 Oh, my pleasure.

02:36:08.000 Thought you might want some more.

02:36:09.000 Some little pendants.

02:36:10.000 You can give them to your kids or whoever to put on a necklace.

02:36:14.000 Those are pieces of mammoth ivory.

02:36:15.000 And how old do you think this little piece is?

02:36:18.000 That's a pendant.

02:36:19.000 That's probably 30,000, 40,000 years old.

02:36:21.000 Isn't that nuts?

02:36:22.000 Drew and I make those.

02:36:24.000 Doesn't it seem kind of crazy that there's so much of it you're allowed to just carve it up and make stuff out of it?

02:36:28.000 We just use broken stuff.

02:36:30.000 Yeah.

02:36:30.000 We have tons of broken tusks.

02:36:35.000 They can't be restored.

02:36:37.000 Complete tusks, we just restore them and then move on to the next one.

02:36:41.000 And most of them you just have stored.

02:36:44.000 You must get a lot of offers where people want to buy them, right?

02:36:46.000 Yeah.

02:36:48.000 What do you tell them?

02:36:48.000 Go pound sand?

02:36:49.000 I don't tell them that.

02:36:50.000 I just say, hey, go fuck yourself.

02:36:54.000 I've got an image show.

02:36:56.000 I understand.

02:36:57.000 Yeah.

02:36:58.000 No, I just don't sell tusks.

02:37:00.000 I don't sell any bones.

02:37:01.000 Not even a...

02:37:02.000 I can give this stuff away because I own it.

02:37:04.000 I can give it away.

02:37:06.000 But I don't sell it.

02:37:07.000 Have there been anybody, any researchers or anybody, all these appearances that you've done on the show, it's sort of gotten that whole area a lot of attention.

02:37:18.000 Has there been anybody that has expressed legitimate interest in working with you?

02:37:23.000 There has been expressions of interest, but they want to come up and they have no place to study stuff.

02:37:31.000 They want to send it all outside to their house and wherever.

02:37:35.000 Right.

02:37:36.000 Or their university, wherever.

02:37:38.000 And you don't want that?

02:37:39.000 It won't come back.

02:37:40.000 Right.

02:37:41.000 And the work won't get done.

02:37:42.000 Right.

02:37:42.000 Or at least it won't come back.

02:37:44.000 At the very least, it won't come back.

02:37:46.000 Now, you recall, last time I was here, I gave you some gun grips from the guy that makes those Burkett customs.

02:37:55.000 Well, since then, he got into making firearms.

02:37:57.000 Oh, boy.

02:37:58.000 So he made it, Drew and I, a couple 1911s.

02:38:02.000 I posted those.

02:38:04.000 Real nice that he's getting into that.

02:38:06.000 Oh, look at that.

02:38:07.000 Oh, and he uses your mammoth.

02:38:08.000 Wow, look at those handles.

02:38:10.000 That's crazy.

02:38:11.000 Isn't that something?

02:38:12.000 Now, is that the blue one?

02:38:15.000 Is that the blue mineralized?

02:38:17.000 Yeah, that's a section of a mammoth tooth that's been cut.

02:38:22.000 Wow.

02:38:22.000 And the one on the bottom is mammoth tusk.

02:38:25.000 And so the mammoth tooth that's been cut, is that the natural color of it, that blue?

02:38:28.000 No, I think he might have put a little coloring in it.

02:38:31.000 Oh, wow, that's beautiful.

02:38:32.000 And the epoxy.

02:38:33.000 Isn't that something?

02:38:34.000 That is beautiful.

02:38:35.000 And he got our name on the guns, too.

02:38:37.000 Wow.

02:38:38.000 And the logo.

02:38:41.000 Now we can say we were insured by Burkett.

02:38:43.000 Don't rob a bank with that gun, because they're going to know who you are.

02:38:47.000 Yeah.

02:38:47.000 They got cameras that'll tell them.

02:38:49.000 That's pretty dope.

02:38:51.000 Anyway, so he did that, and then the other guy who you both have carvings from, Chuck Leak is his name, and you know that...

02:39:01.000 One thing that you have, the pipe with the tusks.

02:39:06.000 Right.

02:39:07.000 I don't think you've ever used it.

02:39:08.000 No.

02:39:10.000 That's his kind of stuff.

02:39:11.000 Oh, I see.

02:39:12.000 So he knew I was coming on your show, and he goes, can I make you and Joe a special carving?

02:39:22.000 Can you give Joe his when you see him?

02:39:24.000 I said, yeah.

02:39:25.000 I'll give it to him when I go down there.

02:39:27.000 So I brought it to you.

02:39:29.000 It's here in his box.

02:39:32.000 This is the kind of stuff.

02:39:34.000 Okay.

02:39:34.000 Thank you.

02:39:36.000 Yes.

02:39:36.000 All right.

02:39:37.000 I'll open it right now.

02:39:38.000 Should I open it right now?

02:39:39.000 Yeah.

02:39:39.000 All right.

02:39:40.000 His name's Chuck Leak, probably the best ivory carver on the planet.

02:39:44.000 There's a picture of him carving a...

02:39:45.000 He carved a letter opener for the Pope.

02:39:48.000 There's a piece of tape there in the middle, Joe, on the front, right where your hand is.

02:39:52.000 Oh, I see it.

02:39:53.000 Might have to cut it or something.

02:39:58.000 Yeah.

02:39:59.000 There we go.

02:40:00.000 Whoa!

02:40:01.000 Oh, this is crazy.

02:40:03.000 What is this?

02:40:05.000 Mammoth tooth with a mammoth carved into it.

02:40:08.000 That is incredible.

02:40:10.000 Look at that.

02:40:13.000 The size of that tooth is insane.

02:40:16.000 Yep.

02:40:17.000 It's so heavy.

02:40:18.000 Yep.

02:40:20.000 My God.

02:40:21.000 That's amazing carving, too.

02:40:23.000 Oh, fuck.

02:40:24.000 Look at that.

02:40:25.000 That will stay here, right here.

02:40:27.000 I'm going to clear off a spot for it.

02:40:29.000 Yep.

02:40:30.000 There we go.

02:40:31.000 Right here.

02:40:32.000 That's sick.

02:40:35.000 That's amazing.

02:40:36.000 That'll go right next to your other bone.

02:40:38.000 Thank you very much.

02:40:40.000 That's incredible.

02:40:40.000 What's his name again?

02:40:41.000 Chuck Leak.

02:40:42.000 Chuck Leak.

02:40:42.000 Shout out to Chuck Leak.

02:40:44.000 Mammoth Mogul.

02:40:45.000 That's incredible.

02:40:46.000 Part of me feels bad that he carved into this tooth because I kind of just would rather have the tooth.

02:40:51.000 But the artwork itself is insane.

02:40:54.000 We can arrange that, Joe.

02:40:55.000 Well, I like it by itself, too.

02:40:57.000 I like the art, too.

02:40:58.000 But it's just like, I just feel weird about people carving into stuff that's so valuable and ancient.

02:41:04.000 I've had him make me one for every animal that we've found.

02:41:09.000 He's got them with horses.

02:41:11.000 Jamie, you've got to pick this up.

02:41:12.000 Feel how heavy this is.

02:41:13.000 This is so crazy.

02:41:16.000 Here, Joe, hand Jamie this tube.

02:41:18.000 It's a fucking tube.

02:41:24.000 It's crazy.

02:41:24.000 It's crazy that that's a tooth.

02:41:27.000 How big were these fuckers?

02:41:29.000 Huge.

02:41:31.000 That's probably an adult female.

02:41:34.000 That's amazing.

02:41:36.000 Yep.

02:41:37.000 Yeah, and they want us to believe that hunters wiped all those out.

02:41:40.000 No way.

02:41:41.000 With spears.

02:41:41.000 Shut the fuck up.

02:41:42.000 No.

02:41:44.000 Anyways, Chuck has made, for every animal that we've found out there, he's taken a mammoth tooth and carved the animal inside it just like that mammoth.

02:41:52.000 Oh, wow.

02:41:52.000 Including saber-toothed tigers?

02:41:54.000 Wow, look at that one.

02:41:55.000 That's incredible.

02:41:56.000 Amazing work.

02:41:57.000 It's really good.

02:41:58.000 Well, I want to get the saber-toothed tiger back right now.

02:42:02.000 I can't seem to find it.

02:42:04.000 One museum stole one, and I think the other museum stole one, too.

02:42:09.000 So one museum stole one?

02:42:11.000 The British Museum stole one, and AM&H says they never got one.

02:42:16.000 But the correspondence that's listening there talks about them being shipped to New York.

02:42:22.000 Talks about the agreement we had with AM&H. Oh, it never got there.

02:42:26.000 Sorry.

02:42:28.000 Otto Geist was a scumbag that collected for him.

02:42:31.000 He was a railroad field hand.

02:42:33.000 Now he ended up with a doctorate in anthropology from the University of Alaska who was in on this whole deal.

02:42:39.000 Well, I would guarantee that if I lived in like 1920 or some shit like that, and I knew that one of my buddies that I'd been donating to his museum was about to get a saber-toothed tiger head, and I wanted that for my house.

02:42:55.000 You'd have it.

02:42:56.000 You'd probably make a little deal.

02:42:57.000 Of course you would.

02:42:58.000 Make a little deal.

02:42:59.000 I want to give you a million dollars in grants.

02:43:02.000 And next thing you know, you have people over for a cocktail party?

02:43:05.000 Come into the lounge.

02:43:06.000 I want to show you something I acquired.

02:43:09.000 I have a letter posted of what I consider pretty.

02:43:14.000 Interesting way to offer a bribe back in the day.

02:43:17.000 Really?

02:43:18.000 Yeah, it's posted.

02:43:19.000 How did they do the bribe?

02:43:20.000 It was a letter from Charles Frick to the president of the University of Alaska.

02:43:25.000 And the sentence that got my attention was, well, first of all, you invited him to join him and his wife in New York City for a night at the mansion.

02:43:35.000 And then the last sentence was, and we can discuss things that man always needs more of.

02:43:46.000 Pussy?

02:43:46.000 Well, you don't buy that, you rent that.

02:43:51.000 Gold?

02:43:54.000 What does man need more of?

02:43:57.000 I would say money.

02:43:58.000 Yeah, it has to be that.

02:44:00.000 It has to be he's offering him what man needs more of.

02:44:03.000 Yeah, that's a nice way of saying it.

02:44:05.000 Back in the day, it was a king's English.

02:44:08.000 They talked proper and all that.

02:44:11.000 Well, like I said, Dan Richards brought that up, that he thinks that that's what happened to a lot of ancient Egyptian artifacts, and they're probably scattered all over the country, or over the world, rather, in the hands of wealthy collectors.

02:44:24.000 It makes sense.

02:44:25.000 You know, people always want to have something that is very rare and that they're not supposed to have, you know?

02:44:33.000 And we all collect stuff.

02:44:35.000 Mm-hmm.

02:44:35.000 You know, what do you collect?

02:44:36.000 What is your favorite thing to collect?

02:44:38.000 Pool cues.

02:44:39.000 Pool Cues.

02:44:40.000 There you go.

02:44:40.000 I love Pool Cues.

02:44:41.000 They're functional artwork for a game that I'm completely addicted to.

02:44:48.000 I think you'll be able to make a few out of that.

02:44:53.000 Yeah, oh, we definitely will.

02:44:55.000 I don't know.

02:44:56.000 Get a photo of Sugar Tree Cues.

02:45:01.000 If he turns it on a lathe or what, I don't know.

02:45:03.000 My friend Eric, he goes out into the woods and gets his own wood.

02:45:07.000 Like, he does everything from the bottom to the final production of it.

02:45:11.000 He's a really rare guy.

02:45:13.000 Because his cues, he make, like, there's a lot of cues, they make them real fancy with a bunch of different inlays and different stuff.

02:45:20.000 But what he uses mostly is just the natural beauty of the wood itself.

02:45:25.000 He's like, he loves wood.

02:45:27.000 And so his cue, like, look at that.

02:45:28.000 Look at the burl on that handle.

02:45:30.000 I mean, my God, that's so gorgeous.

02:45:33.000 And that's just nature's gorgeousness.

02:45:35.000 That's nature's artwork.

02:45:37.000 And that's what Eric makes most of his cues like.

02:45:40.000 It's all nature's artwork.

02:45:42.000 And they also play incredible.

02:45:45.000 He's a really good pool player, too, which is kind of important if you're going to be a...

02:45:50.000 The guy who makes cues.

02:45:51.000 Like, click on that link right there where you just have AZ Billiards right there.

02:45:54.000 That one.

02:45:55.000 That's some of his work right there.

02:45:56.000 Like, it's all so beautiful.

02:45:58.000 Holy shit.

02:45:59.000 Yeah, and it's, like I said, you see how his work, it just really highlights the beauty of the wood itself.

02:46:05.000 And they play really good, too.

02:46:07.000 That's the thing about pool cues.

02:46:08.000 They all play different.

02:46:10.000 But his, they all have a lot of feel to them.

02:46:12.000 Like, that one right there by your cursor, right there, it says Facebook, that click.

02:46:17.000 Yeah, right there.

02:46:18.000 Look at that fucking thing.

02:46:19.000 Look how beautiful that handle is.

02:46:21.000 I can't imagine the work that goes into making one of those.

02:46:24.000 Oh, it's a lot of work.

02:46:25.000 But it's also that the gorgeousness of it is just natural.

02:46:28.000 Just natural wood.

02:46:31.000 So I'll send him this stuff.

02:46:33.000 He uses mammoth ivory.

02:46:35.000 I got more if he needs more.

02:46:37.000 I don't know what size he needs or how thick it should be.

02:46:40.000 I don't know either.

02:46:41.000 I'll ask him.

02:46:44.000 My daughter's Elora, who's married to Drew out there.

02:46:48.000 She makes the jewelry.

02:46:49.000 Last time we talked, I said she was Saks Fifth Avenue.

02:46:54.000 She's gone beyond Saks Fifth Avenue.

02:46:57.000 Jewel and I are still muddling around in the Dollar General with what we do.

02:47:02.000 We're just making a lot of stuff that people like, like the guitar picks and the ball markers and the pendants.

02:47:08.000 But she takes gold nuggets that she finds and uses ivory that she finds and puts it all together in some beautiful jewelry.

02:47:16.000 And I'm plugging her.

02:47:18.000 It's my daughter, Laura Longley.

02:47:20.000 Yeah, you showed it to us the last time.

02:47:22.000 It's really beautiful stuff.

02:47:23.000 She made that necklace for you.

02:47:24.000 Yeah, and again, that stuff is like you're dealing with something that's 30,000 years old.

02:47:31.000 It's amazing.

02:47:32.000 The shine on that wood, you put that on there and you can shine it to a mirror finish.

02:47:36.000 You can see your face in it.

02:47:37.000 That's wild.

02:47:38.000 It is.

02:47:39.000 It's just also so cool to be in possession of something.

02:47:42.000 Like, just to hold this in your hand and to know that this is a part of an animal that roamed the earth 30,000 years ago.

02:47:48.000 Pretty incredible stuff.

02:47:50.000 It is.

02:47:51.000 When you're walking around that area, do you get a sense of it?

02:47:54.000 Like, does it feel weird when you're walking around there?

02:47:56.000 It does, because the stink.

02:47:59.000 The stink is incredible.

02:48:00.000 Right, because it's all rotting, right?

02:48:02.000 Hell yeah.

02:48:03.000 We go in in the morning, there might be...

02:48:05.000 A wolf or a couple coyotes or a lynx or two.

02:48:08.000 Just kind of rooting around in there going, hey, come back later.

02:48:12.000 Just smelling the rot.

02:48:14.000 Yeah, they're looking for it.

02:48:15.000 And they find it.

02:48:15.000 They find bones.

02:48:16.000 They'll come up to our pallets and take bones right off of them.

02:48:19.000 Wow.

02:48:20.000 And they'll chew them.

02:48:21.000 Like, they'll chew chunks out of them.

02:48:25.000 It's incredible.

02:48:26.000 You know, the stink is unreal.

02:48:27.000 And if it wasn't frozen, that's probably what happened to most of the bones that were left behind by all the animals that didn't get...

02:48:32.000 That didn't die in permafrost.

02:48:34.000 We have bones that have tendons still attached.

02:48:36.000 Wow.

02:48:37.000 Well, you were telling me about a guy who ate some of the...

02:48:39.000 Oh, yeah.

02:48:40.000 He ate some old meat.

02:48:42.000 Yeah.

02:48:43.000 Off of Blue Babe, which was 38...

02:48:45.000 The other bison I'd said was 38,000 years old.

02:48:49.000 Talk about dry-aged.

02:48:51.000 Yeah.

02:48:51.000 They had a...

02:48:52.000 Well, you know, we all eat that shit.

02:48:54.000 He had a stew made out of it.

02:48:57.000 What was it like?

02:48:59.000 I talked to him out at the boneyard.

02:49:01.000 He came out there.

02:49:02.000 He's up in years now, but Dale Guthrie, I believe his name is, and he wrote a book on it, on Ice Age stuff.

02:49:10.000 He made a big old casting of a woolly mammoth that I bought, not from him, but he sold it to somebody who sold it to another guy I knew who had it for sale.

02:49:21.000 And he made a stew out of old bison meat?

02:49:25.000 Yeah, they found the whole bison.

02:49:26.000 I mammified bison.

02:49:28.000 If you saw that little...

02:49:29.000 There it is.

02:49:31.000 Wow.

02:49:33.000 Dinner party that served up 50,000-year-old bison stew.

02:49:37.000 I think it's 38,000, but that's all right.

02:49:40.000 Wow.

02:49:41.000 Dale Guthrie is the guy's name.

02:49:43.000 I would have had to take a bowl of that.

02:49:46.000 I would have had to try it.

02:49:48.000 You come on up.

02:49:50.000 I would try it last.

02:49:53.000 I let a bunch of other eggheads try it first and stare at him.

02:49:56.000 How are you feeling?

02:49:57.000 What else are the kind of fucking diseases that are in that bison bone that you're thawing out now?

02:50:02.000 I'm going to go heavy duty on this carnivore diet.

02:50:04.000 You should.

02:50:05.000 Yeah, nothing but bison and mammoth.

02:50:07.000 Yeah.

02:50:09.000 It will definitely radically decrease your hunger.

02:50:14.000 To make the stew for roughly eight people, Guthrie cut off a small part of the bison's neck where the meat was frozen while fresh.

02:50:21.000 When it thawed, it gave off an unmistakable beef aroma, not unpleasantly mixed with a faint smell of the earth in which it was found.

02:50:30.000 With a touch of mushroom, he once wrote.

02:50:32.000 They then added a generous amount of garlic and onions along with carrots and potatoes to the aged meat.

02:50:38.000 Couple that with wine, it becomes a full-fledged dinner.

02:50:41.000 Did they show a photo of what the dinner looked like?

02:50:43.000 No, it was in 1984.

02:50:44.000 They didn't take pictures back then?

02:50:46.000 How do you not take pictures of your food?

02:50:50.000 I told you the story of the guy that found that.

02:50:52.000 Wow.

02:50:55.000 It wasn't a good look.

02:50:58.000 Yeah.

02:50:59.000 But they closed his mine down to take that out.

02:51:04.000 They were supposed to get it out in a day, and it took them all summer.

02:51:07.000 The miner got shut down.

02:51:09.000 Just because of this bison?

02:51:10.000 Yeah.

02:51:11.000 Yeah.

02:51:13.000 He went over to a different creek.

02:51:14.000 I think I told you this.

02:51:15.000 It's called No Gold Creek.

02:51:17.000 I don't think there's any gold on no Gold Creek.

02:51:20.000 Didn't have a good winter.

02:51:22.000 Because he couldn't go to the other place because of the bison.

02:51:25.000 Yeah.

02:51:25.000 That's a pain in the ass.

02:51:26.000 Ron Roman's his name.

02:51:28.000 Was there any other way to do it?

02:51:29.000 Was there a way to work around it?

02:51:31.000 That was the only other ground he had.

02:51:34.000 They tied up the whole thing.

02:51:35.000 I mean, you're done.

02:51:38.000 And then when they were done, he went back in.

02:51:41.000 But is it his land?

02:51:43.000 Yeah, it was patented land that he had.

02:51:45.000 It was my company land.

02:51:47.000 He was on my ground.

02:51:48.000 And they have the ability to shut things down for a discovery like that?

02:51:51.000 Yes, they did.

02:51:52.000 How come they don't have the ability?

02:51:53.000 He was a nice guy.

02:51:55.000 Oh, he let them do it?

02:51:56.000 We're going to get in here.

02:51:57.000 It will take us a day to get it out.

02:51:59.000 He said, go ahead.

02:52:00.000 I see.

02:52:01.000 And then they said, we can't do this, the whole thing.

02:52:03.000 And then they could never get him out of there.

02:52:05.000 They took it out, took him all summer to get it.

02:52:07.000 And then it fucked him.

02:52:08.000 Yeah, you only get 100 days to mine where the water turns to ice.

02:52:13.000 Right.

02:52:13.000 If you're not mining in, you're done.

02:52:15.000 So every day is a 1% day.

02:52:17.000 Oh, that's terrible.

02:52:18.000 Or 10%.

02:52:19.000 You know, it's like every day.

02:52:21.000 So that must have been terrible financially for him.

02:52:23.000 Oh, yeah.

02:52:24.000 It was horrible.

02:52:25.000 He had nothing but pork and beans all winter.

02:52:30.000 He's the one that found the Willie Mammoth.

02:52:32.000 Is there any other way to mine around that, where you're not going in that one area?

02:52:38.000 If you rely on somebody telling you...

02:52:40.000 What you can and can't do.

02:52:42.000 We'll get back in here.

02:52:43.000 You can be back here day after tomorrow.

02:52:47.000 Anybody, any miner that I know would say, okay, come do it.

02:52:51.000 I know I'm going to lose a day, but we'll work on equipment that day.

02:52:55.000 But if you come back in the day after tomorrow and they say, sorry, we're going to be here for a few months.

02:53:01.000 What would you do?

02:53:03.000 I wouldn't tell them I found the fucking thing.

02:53:06.000 Because you have experience with these kind of people.

02:53:10.000 You know, I can't even...

02:53:12.000 It's not like I'm keeping this discovery a secret.

02:53:15.000 People tell me...

02:53:17.000 How many Instagram followers do you have?

02:53:19.000 500 and...

02:53:20.000 Over 500,000.

02:53:22.000 Yeah, it's not a secret.

02:53:23.000 Let's see how much it is after today, too.

02:53:25.000 Well, I appreciate you doing this because this gives us an ability to get the word out.

02:53:29.000 Yes.

02:53:30.000 And it's important to get the word out to get the other things to fall in place.

02:53:34.000 Yeah, I think it's important, too.

02:53:36.000 And I appreciate the fact that you...

02:53:39.000 You enjoy the shit out of this prehistory stuff, dude.

02:53:41.000 I do.

02:53:42.000 I love it, and I also love the way you're handling it.

02:53:45.000 I think we're very fortunate that a guy like you owns that piece, where you're willing to talk about it publicly and make a stink about it and let everybody know.

02:53:54.000 There's a real part of the puzzle in the history of this earth that's right there.

02:54:00.000 It's not even that complicated a puzzle.

02:54:03.000 The puzzling part is...

02:54:05.000 What the fuck is AM&H doing?

02:54:07.000 They've had those bones in their basement for a hundred fucking years.

02:54:10.000 They were required in the original deal to do a report on every bone they took, and they were only supposed to take bones of scientific value.

02:54:19.000 This bone has no scientific value to them.

02:54:22.000 They took it.

02:54:23.000 This bone has no scientific value to them.

02:54:25.000 They took it.

02:54:26.000 None of the bones they took have scientific value, primarily because they don't know where they found them.

02:54:33.000 I have all that information in my files.

02:54:35.000 I have all the stratigraphic information of everything they found.

02:54:39.000 Don't you guys think you ought to weld it to me?

02:54:42.000 Yeah.

02:54:42.000 And we'll say, well, this bone came out of 35 feet on Woodchopper Creek, Goldstream Creek, Miller Creek, whatever creek it came out of.

02:54:52.000 So you could be able to find the exact locations and where it was dug.

02:54:55.000 Yeah.

02:54:56.000 So let me ask you this.

02:54:57.000 In a best case scenario, what would happen?

02:55:00.000 They would give you the bones back.

02:55:02.000 And then what would you do?

02:55:04.000 The experts would come in.

02:55:05.000 After I built a facility where they study them, I understand they're not going to...

02:55:10.000 We have a lab in San Francisco.

02:55:13.000 We're going to send the bones to San Francisco.

02:55:15.000 Uh-uh.

02:55:16.000 Uh-uh.

02:55:17.000 We'll have a lab here.

02:55:18.000 I'll build the motherfucker.

02:55:20.000 I've already offered this up to them.

02:55:22.000 And they still don't jump on a chance.

02:55:24.000 How many dumb shits are around like me?

02:55:27.000 Maybe you have to build it first and they will come like the fucking Field of Dreams.

02:55:31.000 Yeah, that was a movie.

02:55:33.000 By the way, I love that movie.

02:55:35.000 It's a good movie.

02:55:36.000 But I've learned my lesson on if you build it, they will come.

02:55:42.000 Yeah.

02:55:43.000 Because we just built one.

02:55:45.000 They didn't show up.

02:55:48.000 So we use it.

02:55:49.000 We use it for our own purposes.

02:55:50.000 Well, maybe we could put the bat signal out here on this show, and there's got to be some paleontologists that are absolutely fascinated by this, that are willing to figure out a way to make it work.

02:56:03.000 They just can't take the bones out of Alaska, and they've got to be like no bullshit researchers, scientists, people that know what they're talking about, because I don't.

02:56:13.000 They're going to want it for museums, huh?

02:56:16.000 They can't have it.

02:56:17.000 Right, but that's probably what's going to, like if they do find some extraordinary stuff, the way they get value out of it is by putting it on display.

02:56:24.000 Doing studies on it and then putting it on display so people can come pay money to see it, right?

02:56:28.000 If I go to AM&H, let's say every day for, once a week for 52 weeks, it's the same displays every week.

02:56:40.000 So all the stuff they collect doesn't go on display.

02:56:43.000 It goes down in the storage.

02:56:45.000 Or it goes out in the East River.

02:56:48.000 The deal with my company, the nozzle men they called them, there were 200 guys working giants.

02:56:54.000 And the giant guys, the nozzle guys, part of the perks of working for that company was if you find a tusk, you can have it.

02:57:02.000 They could take the tusks home with them.

02:57:04.000 Really?

02:57:05.000 Yeah, and the skulls and whatever else they found.

02:57:07.000 No one cared back then.

02:57:08.000 Nobody cared.

02:57:08.000 The company didn't care.

02:57:09.000 Take them.

02:57:10.000 And then these guys from New York, the swift-talking city dudes, they come in and go, Oh, we want them.

02:57:16.000 So they made it so the men couldn't take them, and they took them all.

02:57:20.000 Scientific value, nothing.

02:57:22.000 They took them all.

02:57:23.000 Well, let's just imagine you're the grandson of one of the old-style nozzlemen who's now dead, but he passed that tusk along to his kid, and now it's yours.

02:57:36.000 That tusk could be worth $200,000.

02:57:39.000 That could come in handy to that family.

02:57:42.000 Maybe they could have used that money along the way Not having it.

02:57:46.000 Instead of the AMNH just having it in their basement.

02:57:49.000 And the letter that is on there talks about hundreds, hundreds of tusks that were shipped there.

02:57:57.000 I've seen them.

02:57:58.000 It's not like I'm making this shit up.

02:58:00.000 I was down there.

02:58:01.000 I took pictures of them.

02:58:02.000 You were down there in the basement?

02:58:04.000 In the basement.

02:58:05.000 It's incredible.

02:58:06.000 These big crates haven't been opened ever.

02:58:10.000 And they're just filled with tusks.

02:58:12.000 Well, the tusks are on these big shelves.

02:58:14.000 Like, you see at Costco, they go way up high?

02:58:16.000 Yeah.

02:58:18.000 Just shelves of tusks.

02:58:20.000 And bison heads and stuff.

02:58:22.000 And then the crates are the bones.

02:58:24.000 Leg bones, teeth.

02:58:26.000 How the fuck can they just leave that there?

02:58:29.000 It's in storage.

02:58:30.000 But that seems so insane.

02:58:32.000 That you have this extraordinary place that really doesn't get attention until you get on social media.

02:58:37.000 And then the world knows about it.

02:58:39.000 But they've known about it for a hundred years.

02:58:41.000 Like, that seems like something you would want people to know about.

02:58:45.000 Nobody gave a shit.

02:58:46.000 My company didn't care until...

02:58:47.000 You know, they didn't envision a guy like me coming along and owning this company.

02:58:51.000 They had no...

02:58:53.000 When I bought the company, I started going through the files going, let's see what I bought.

02:58:58.000 You know, like, let's see what...

02:59:00.000 Oh, look at that.

02:59:00.000 I got a lease with the government.

02:59:02.000 Oh, here's another one.

02:59:03.000 I got another lease with the government.

02:59:05.000 Yeah, I got a piece over here a guy offered to buy.

02:59:08.000 Now I don't want to sell it.

02:59:09.000 So I go through all these things and I find the deal with the bones.

02:59:14.000 And I went to the museum.

02:59:15.000 I said, I bought Alaska Gold Company.

02:59:18.000 I want to go get the bones.

02:59:20.000 He goes, I was wondering when you're going to show up.

02:59:22.000 Off to New York we go.

02:59:24.000 Got bullshitted.

02:59:26.000 Oh yeah, we're going to return them after we take care of the asbestos abatement problem down there.

02:59:32.000 Anyway, I told you all this.

02:59:34.000 They have yet to get a hold of us.

02:59:36.000 It's gone to our state.

02:59:39.000 Legislature to see if they can help.

02:59:41.000 It's coming back to Alaska.

02:59:43.000 Those are my bones.

02:59:44.000 And if they're afraid that it's going to go, well, Reeves, you know, they're worth a lot of money, you know, he could sell them.

02:59:50.000 Look, just send them back.

02:59:53.000 And if I want to sell them, I'll sell them.

02:59:55.000 They're my bones.

02:59:56.000 Also, you haven't sold what you have.

02:59:58.000 It doesn't even make any sense.

03:00:00.000 It's a fucking hobby.

03:00:02.000 You know, we're all queer for something.

03:00:04.000 You know, some people collect stamps.

03:00:06.000 Some people collect coins.

03:00:08.000 My mom used to collect napkins, you know, quilts and stuff like that.

03:00:14.000 I collect bones in historic sites.

03:00:19.000 I got a degree in history.

03:00:21.000 You probably didn't know that.

03:00:22.000 Historic preservation.

03:00:25.000 I like to fix up old shit.

03:00:29.000 Talking to a guy about the Nana.

03:00:32.000 Where the Golden Spike was driven by Harding.

03:00:36.000 That just went up for auctions on Christie's.

03:00:38.000 What is that?

03:00:39.000 Explain that?

03:00:39.000 A Golden Spike, railroad spike, that Warren Harding came up and drove in the railroad back in the 20s when they completed the Alaska Railroad from Anchorage up to Nenana.

03:00:52.000 How do they keep someone from stealing that?

03:00:54.000 Well, they didn't leave it in there long.

03:00:56.000 Oh.

03:00:57.000 They drove it in, they took the photo op, they did all that.

03:00:59.000 Then pulled it out.

03:01:00.000 Pulled it out, and somebody bought it, and somebody else bought it.

03:01:03.000 Whoa!

03:01:04.000 Look at that.

03:01:05.000 That's crazy.

03:01:07.000 Wow!

03:01:09.000 So I did some figuring on the weight of it, and figured out how much gold content was in it.

03:01:16.000 $200,000?

03:01:18.000 Yep.

03:01:19.000 Wow.

03:01:21.000 It was only valued at like $30,000 to $50,000.

03:01:25.000 But just the historical significance of it makes it worth $200,000?

03:01:29.000 Yeah.

03:01:29.000 And I know the guys that bought it.

03:01:31.000 I was on the auction.

03:01:33.000 I had the guy on the phone.

03:01:35.000 It didn't take long for me to go past it.

03:01:37.000 I ain't buying it.

03:01:38.000 I don't want it.

03:01:39.000 And it kept going and kept going and kept going.

03:01:41.000 Would you think it was going to stop at?

03:01:43.000 I was going to stop at around $70,000.

03:01:46.000 It kept going.

03:01:49.000 Well, that's probably the same kind of thing that happened with your saber-toothed tiger skull.

03:01:52.000 Oh, fuck.

03:01:53.000 That was given away to somebody.

03:01:54.000 You think so?

03:01:55.000 You don't think somebody gave them money for it?

03:01:56.000 Oh, they gave money, but it wasn't sold.

03:01:59.000 It was like...

03:01:59.000 A donation.

03:02:00.000 I'm a benefactor.

03:02:01.000 Here's for the new wing.

03:02:03.000 Right.

03:02:04.000 What do you got?

03:02:04.000 You got any of that Egyptian stuff laying around?

03:02:07.000 Yeah.

03:02:07.000 I want a sarcophagus.

03:02:08.000 What do you say, boys?

03:02:09.000 I bet there's a ton of old school families that have deep old school money that have stuff like that squirreled away somewhere.

03:02:17.000 Well, you can...

03:02:19.000 They're always getting arrested for stealing shit.

03:02:22.000 Mostly they're museum employees.

03:02:24.000 If you ever Google it, it's amazing.

03:02:26.000 Really?

03:02:27.000 What these guys steal from the, oh yeah.

03:02:30.000 Museums aren't money makers.

03:02:32.000 Right.

03:02:32.000 You're going to make money, you're not going to go own a museum.

03:02:35.000 You know, you're going to go do whatever you do to make money.

03:02:40.000 But museums don't make money, so the guys that work there, they go out in the field, and some guy says, well look what I found.

03:02:48.000 Well, that's very interesting.

03:02:49.000 Yeah, it looks like a saber-toothed...

03:02:51.000 I mean, it looks like just a cowhead.

03:02:53.000 Well, can you find out for me?

03:02:55.000 Yeah, sure, I'll take it off your hands.

03:02:57.000 Yeah.

03:02:58.000 And off he goes.

03:03:00.000 Who's got the bones?

03:03:01.000 Timeline reveals Park Service employees covered up theft of ancient remains.

03:03:06.000 Case of missing bones from the Effigy Mounds National Monument took multiple investigations and more than 20 years to locate them.

03:03:13.000 Wow.

03:03:15.000 I'm not shocked.

03:03:17.000 Well, we got a site in Florida that we've allowed the University of North Florida to dig on for decades.

03:03:25.000 It's on an Indian mountain there right on the St. Johns River.

03:03:28.000 And every year I allow them to come out and dig.

03:03:32.000 And they found, so far they've found hundreds of thousands of artifacts.

03:03:36.000 We're talking about archaeological stuff.

03:03:39.000 You know, arrowheads, shark's teeth with drilled holes through them, jewelry, beads, you name it, whatever they made out of fish bones and animal bones.

03:03:48.000 How do you wind up always finding these spots to park at where it turns out there's a bunch of ancient stuff in them?

03:03:57.000 My parents bought this property when I was a young guy, but I spent a lot of time as a 9, 10, 11, 12, 13-year-old kid just digging.

03:04:06.000 I like digging in the dirt.

03:04:09.000 And the Alaska stuff was about gold, but it didn't take long to find the bones.

03:04:15.000 And the bones, to me, they're more fun.

03:04:18.000 You know, they're not worth anything to me because I don't sell them.

03:04:21.000 Another scandal that the AMNH was involved in recently.

03:04:24.000 Facing scrutiny, a museum that holds 12,000 human remains changes course.

03:04:28.000 American Museum of National History said it would address its collecting of remains which stretched into the 1940s and including practices now viewed as abusive and racist.

03:04:38.000 So it must be Native American bones.

03:04:41.000 Wow.

03:04:42.000 All sorts of stuff, actually, but same time period we're talking about.

03:04:46.000 I like how they put it.

03:04:47.000 They're planning to overhaul their stewardship of more than 12,000 human remains.

03:04:53.000 Painful legacy of collecting practices that saw the museum acquire the skeletons of indigenous and enslaved people taken from their graves in the bodies of New Yorkers who died as recently as the 1940s.

03:05:06.000 Wow.

03:05:07.000 Whoa!

03:05:09.000 Reconstruction of a burial of a warrior from Mongolia in about 1000 AD. Wow.

03:05:17.000 They decided to remove that?

03:05:19.000 I mean, that's just a picture.

03:05:21.000 What are you going to leave it there?

03:05:22.000 What are you doing?

03:05:23.000 I want to go look.

03:05:24.000 They were obviously doing some stuff.

03:05:26.000 They're not the only ones doing this.

03:05:28.000 Smithsonian's doing this stuff, too.

03:05:29.000 I'm sure.

03:05:30.000 And there's not much I can do about it.

03:05:35.000 I mean, it's...

03:05:37.000 Well, especially, there's no argument if they've had it sitting on their shelves for all this time.

03:05:43.000 And I've offered them...

03:05:45.000 Make this happen.

03:05:46.000 Let's get it back here.

03:05:48.000 It's, you know, an endless tilt in the windmill and all that stuff.

03:05:54.000 But, you know, I never met you before a few years ago.

03:05:58.000 And prior to that, I would just say, the only guy I'll talk to is Joe Rogan about this.

03:06:01.000 Because if I'm going to talk to anybody, I'm going to talk to the most influential man on earth.

03:06:07.000 And you weren't supposed to call me.

03:06:10.000 But here I am for the third time.

03:06:12.000 Listen, of course I was supposed to.

03:06:14.000 I'm fascinated.

03:06:15.000 Because I didn't want to tell this story.

03:06:17.000 I just wanted to keep boning.

03:06:19.000 And now that it's going, everybody wants me to do all this fucking work.

03:06:22.000 I'm not a research scientist.

03:06:24.000 I don't have all these machines.

03:06:26.000 I can't do all this stuff.

03:06:28.000 What are you asking me for?

03:06:29.000 Go to AM&H. That's their job.

03:06:32.000 That's what they got paid to do.

03:06:34.000 What are you chewing my ass for?

03:06:36.000 Well, best case scenario, as we described, they give it back to you.

03:06:40.000 Researchers get involved.

03:06:42.000 You build a facility on site.

03:06:44.000 They study it.

03:06:45.000 Everybody learns.

03:06:46.000 Everybody's happy.

03:06:47.000 That's right.

03:06:48.000 Yeah.

03:06:49.000 And we have some knowledge at the end of the day that we don't have now.

03:06:53.000 We won't get if we don't do something like this.

03:06:55.000 Because all my bones come from one little two-acre spot.

03:06:59.000 And you talk about in situ, you know, in place.

03:07:02.000 It's right there.

03:07:04.000 Yeah.

03:07:04.000 You can't find a bone here and find one nine miles away and somehow say they're from the same area.

03:07:10.000 But you can sure find them there, and you can find out where they exactly came from.

03:07:14.000 You can figure out what that piece you're holding.

03:07:17.000 You can tell how many times that had sex, male or female, what its diet was, where it traveled to.

03:07:23.000 There's things that you can find out in a college and that you could never find out 20, 30 years ago.

03:07:29.000 So it's kind of cool.

03:07:33.000 It's very cool.

03:07:34.000 I just got to wait for these other guys to come along.

03:07:36.000 I talked to Max out there.

03:07:38.000 He's my other son-in-law with Drew and married to my penultimate daughter, Jordan.

03:07:44.000 And he's a really good lawyer.

03:07:48.000 And his interest is in NIL. Have you heard of that?

03:07:52.000 No.

03:07:53.000 NIL's name, image, likeness for the kids coming out of high school, college and stuff for the pro sports.

03:08:00.000 And he played football for Oregon.

03:08:02.000 He was a center.

03:08:03.000 I watched him play in the Rose Bowl.

03:08:04.000 Good guy.

03:08:06.000 And we were talking a little bit about the legalities of stuff like this.

03:08:10.000 And he's pretty good on contracts, and he's read this stuff and said, ah, you got them by the balls, man, because you got the receipts.

03:08:18.000 I guarantee you those guys don't have the receipts.

03:08:21.000 They probably trashed them years ago.

03:08:24.000 But I got every one of them.

03:08:25.000 I got all the letters.

03:08:26.000 I got the communications.

03:08:28.000 Well, John, I really hope you make some ground.

03:08:31.000 I really do.

03:08:32.000 I plan on it.

03:08:33.000 No pun intended.

03:08:35.000 We'll tear some up.

03:08:36.000 You're tearing some ground up.

03:08:37.000 I appreciate you're out there always fighting this fight and letting people know about this extraordinary discovery that you found in your place, man.

03:08:46.000 It's fucking amazing.

03:08:47.000 It's always great to have you here.

03:08:48.000 Let's keep doing it.

03:08:49.000 It's been a pleasure.

03:08:50.000 It's always a pleasure seeing you and Jamie.

03:08:52.000 Every year I hope we make a little progress.

03:08:54.000 Next year I hope we have something big to discuss.

03:08:56.000 I hope it cracks.

03:08:58.000 I hope this motivates a lot of people, this podcast.

03:09:00.000 I think people need to be refreshed every year to realize what an extraordinary place you have and how crazy it is that there's not more work being done here.

03:09:10.000 Yeah.

03:09:13.000 It's such a simple solution.

03:09:15.000 Just do the right thing.

03:09:16.000 Just do the right thing.

03:09:17.000 And just call me up and say, okay, come get them.

03:09:20.000 I'll have tractor trailers parked out there in 24 hours.

03:09:24.000 Let's load them up, boys.

03:09:26.000 They're going north.

03:09:27.000 Put them on the rail out in Seattle.

03:09:29.000 Send them farther north.

03:09:32.000 We've got warehouses full of this stuff.

03:09:34.000 I'm at the point now where I'm going, maybe I should just concentrate on what we do for a living instead of the hobby.

03:09:41.000 I can keep digging them up, but what good is it?

03:09:43.000 We're not going to study them.

03:09:46.000 I'm going to leave that area alone.

03:09:47.000 It's got good gold.

03:09:49.000 I don't need to dig the gold out of there.

03:09:52.000 The gold's beneath the bones.

03:09:55.000 And we've got to get to the gold.

03:09:57.000 You've got to go through the bones.

03:09:59.000 And we'll get the gold someday.

03:10:01.000 But we found a spot out north of town where we couldn't get drilled to bedrock.

03:10:07.000 It's 450 feet deep.

03:10:10.000 The old-timers tried to drill it.

03:10:12.000 They couldn't go deep.

03:10:14.000 They couldn't get to the bottom of it.

03:10:15.000 And I think that's where the fucking hot stuff hit.

03:10:19.000 Really?

03:10:20.000 25 miles north of town.

03:10:21.000 I think that's where the hot stuff hit.

03:10:26.000 450 feet and you don't hit bedrock?

03:10:28.000 Are you kidding?

03:10:30.000 What happened there?

03:10:31.000 It blew a fucking hole in the ground.

03:10:34.000 Wow.

03:10:36.000 Unfortunately, I don't own that claim, but I know who does.

03:10:39.000 I'm not telling them where it's at.

03:10:41.000 Yeah.

03:10:42.000 But I have the records that show what happened there.

03:10:45.000 Well, I hope somebody does some investigations on that.

03:10:48.000 It'd be cool.

03:10:49.000 Fuck yeah, it would be.

03:10:50.000 The answers, there's a lot of answers in these bones that we don't know what the questions are yet.

03:10:55.000 So, it's nice that you enabled me to come in and...

03:10:58.000 John, I appreciate you very much.

03:10:59.000 You're the fucking man.

03:11:00.000 You're the man.

03:11:01.000 Always great to see you.

03:11:02.000 You're the guy.

03:11:03.000 Thank you for all the stuff, too.

03:11:04.000 You bet.

03:11:05.000 Thank you.

03:11:05.000 That will take a permanent spot on the desk now.

03:11:07.000 Good.

03:11:08.000 Thank you, brother.

03:11:09.000 Mammoth magic, dude.

03:11:10.000 Yes.

03:11:10.000 I feel it.

03:11:11.000 I feel magic coming off of it.

03:11:12.000 Yeah, you will.

03:11:13.000 I got you some guitar picks.

03:11:15.000 All right.

03:11:15.000 I'll give more to Gary.

03:11:17.000 We'll do it again next year, my friend.

03:11:18.000 I'll set you up if you've got any other players you want.

03:11:20.000 All right.

03:11:20.000 Thank you, sir.

03:11:21.000 Thank you.

03:11:22.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - February 11, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2271 - John Reeves

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