The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2272 - Mike Benz

00:00:00.000 Joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day Good to see you Great to see you.

00:00:14.000 I've been looking forward to this one.

00:00:15.000 Me too.

00:00:17.000 All night I was like, ooh, tomorrow's gonna be a good one.

00:00:20.000 For you, it must have been very exciting to have the vault opened.

00:00:25.000 And to get a peek into the machine, because you've been describing this.

00:00:29.000 The last time you were on the podcast, you went into depth about USAID. And it's very curious why they chose USAID as the first organization for DOGE to investigate, because it seems like they were the ones that resisted the most.

00:00:42.000 Yeah.

00:00:43.000 Yeah.

00:00:43.000 Well, you know, the joke that I tell here is it's like what they tell you to do your first day of prison is you go in, you walk up to the meanest, baddest SOB, and you...

00:00:52.000 Punch them right in the mouth. 0.63

00:00:53.000 I mean, that's basically what's happened here with the White House's first target being USAID. Because USAID opens up the entire world of the blob, the foreign policy establishment, and its weaponization of what are supposed to be foreign-facing Department of Dirty Tricks operations against domestic opponents. 0.99

00:01:12.000 And when...

00:01:14.000 It all got opened, and you started to see the numbers and the different organizations and NGOs that were getting them.

00:01:20.000 Was anything surprising to you, or was this all what you expected?

00:01:23.000 No.

00:01:24.000 In fact, I think we're at the tip of the iceberg, and what people are going to see on this is going to completely reorient their mental map of how they think the world works, how they think American power projects into the institutions.

00:01:39.000 And I think the calls for reform are going to get louder and louder as people realize the reality that's been constructed around them is downstream of something that was started very long ago when American statecraft to manage the American empire for the benefit of the American people began to warp and distort.

00:02:03.000 Every institution in American life, from the media to now the social media companies, to the unions, to the universities and academics, to the NGOs and think tanks, to the prosecutors, to our conception of terrorism, to our conception of activity in the drug trade, to what we're really doing with...

00:02:29.000 Public health programs and the medical establishment and what drives that, you know, all the way into poverty relief and you name it.

00:02:39.000 I mean, every institution is instrumentalized by this apparatus, supposedly to help us.

00:02:44.000 But really starting, this has been done in U.S. history before.

00:02:47.000 This happened against the left, against the Democrats in the 1960s and 70s when the CIA and, you know, to an extent it's...

00:02:55.000 Sister orgs like USAID and whatnot were pumping money into domestic politics to stop the anti-Vietnam War movement.

00:03:02.000 And this led to the reforms of the late 1970s, the Church Committee hearing, the Pike Committee hearing, the establishment of a Senate Intelligence Committee and House Intelligence Committee for oversight.

00:03:12.000 But even that was a very small glimpse into the window.

00:03:17.000 The analogy I give here is like the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe, the chronicles of Narnia, where there's this whole cinematic universe.

00:03:25.000 You're living in this house, and there's this closet in the back of a wardrobe.

00:03:31.000 And if you never walk through it, you never see that whole world.

00:03:34.000 You can live your whole life without seeing it.

00:03:36.000 But when you open that door and you step into it, you see there's an entire other universe here that's been right next to you this whole time.

00:03:43.000 When you first started working for the State Department, did you have any inclination that you were going to get involved?

00:03:50.000 Did you have any inclination that this was going on?

00:03:53.000 Did you know already?

00:03:55.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:03:55.000 You already knew?

00:03:56.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:03:57.000 I had already been working on this for many years.

00:03:59.000 When did you first discover it?

00:04:01.000 Around August 2016. I was deeply passionate about the internet censorship issue.

00:04:12.000 I had some weird experiences playing chess as a kid where I sort of came of age when Garry Kasparov lost to Deep Blue and AI took over, really took the spirit out of a lot of the chess world.

00:04:29.000 And it was apparent to me as a kid that these AI chess engines were going to out-compete humans.

00:04:35.000 But when I was young, the sort of older people in the room... 0.99

00:04:40.000 We're in denial about it.

00:04:41.000 And when I saw that same thing in 2016 with the development of AI censorship superweapons, I call those weapons of mass deletion, that they would be like weapons of mass destruction but for speech.

00:04:54.000 A few lines of code would allow you to destroy entire political movements, governments, narratives.

00:05:02.000 There'd be no escape from it.

00:05:03.000 We would permanently change the face of political warfare or...

00:05:08.000 Domestic politics, you don't need a standing army of 100,000 censors if you just have one, you know, machine learning, you know, just ingested database, you know, of 900 million tweets that you can ingest and then make this sophisticated narrative network map of all the different keywords and concepts you want to censor.

00:05:31.000 And to me, that was like this free speech.

00:05:37.000 I started that quest in 2016, but very quickly, that research and the process of trying to write that showed these international networks immediately.

00:05:49.000 I mean, the NLP, the natural language processing sort of backbone of this, was all being sponsored by DARPA to be able to monitor the speech of ISIS or extremist or terrorist groups.

00:06:02.000 And when I saw that...

00:06:04.000 Coming home and being advocated here, I spent my whole day, morning, noon, night, 20 hours a day basically, chronicling, archiving.

00:06:15.000 That's how I know so many of these characters is because I feel like I know them better than my own friends and family having spent so many years watching this all develop.

00:06:26.000 What did it feel like being one of the only people that was sounding the alarm?

00:06:30.000 For essentially eight years like you get involved in 2016 and No one even the general public until you came on this podcast I don't even think we're aware that this was an issue at all But even then things got lost so quickly in the cycle of news things just come and go so quickly until Doge started unraveling All the spending.

00:06:52.000 And you start seeing things like $200 million allocated to transgender experiments on monkeys. 0.99

00:07:00.000 Like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:07:02.000 Like, this is crazy. 1.00

00:07:04.000 And that's just a tip of the iceberg.

00:07:08.000 And then the NGOs.

00:07:09.000 And then that map of 50,000 NGOs that was essentially just democratic propaganda machine that was exposed.

00:07:19.000 It was all just money being funneled in a circular manner.

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00:08:02.000 totally I mean it's been It's been exhilarating.

00:08:07.000 You know, there is a sort of, I understand the weight of history here.

00:08:11.000 We are doing open-heart surgery on the body of the American empire, our influence abroad, and it has to be done well, and so, you know, I want to help the American homeland, and so this is a sensitive process, but,

00:08:27.000 you know, obviously, it's been a bit surreal seeing the past couple weeks where people are now I go to my X timeline and I see everyone doing the same exercise that I gave up everything to be doing eight years ago.

00:08:43.000 Because all this stuff is open source.

00:08:45.000 You didn't need to be an inside guy to see this if you knew where to look.

00:08:49.000 These are usaspending.gov.

00:08:53.000 I used to joke as the main difference was until Freedom opened up when Elon acquired X and a few institutional changes began to happen.

00:09:03.000 You know, in the government and with Congress.

00:09:05.000 But, you know, I used to joke that USAspending.gov was the main difference during the height of this censorship, you know, total control era, was the main difference between us and Russia and China, which was that we have this sort of autocratic control over information and institutions by the U.S. government.

00:09:23.000 So do they.

00:09:24.000 The difference is we can go to USAspending.gov and look up how they do it.

00:09:31.000 When I've been going to my X timeline and seeing everybody independently doing that exercise and finding the joy in that, the self-discovery process, and being able to share it with people and everybody being able to understand and make sense of the receipts because, you know, this framework for understanding it has been shared and popularized, that to me has been the goal all along to be able to give people the language and the frameworks to understand.

00:10:01.000 What is so terrifying and necessary to reform, but that's right there in front of your eyes if you only open your eyes to see it.

00:10:12.000 It's got to be exciting, though, for you to be there on Operation Day when they are doing the open-heart surgery.

00:10:17.000 It is.

00:10:18.000 It is.

00:10:20.000 We need to make sure that the patient doesn't die on the operating table just because it's the right move to do the open-heart surgery because the patient needs it.

00:10:31.000 Doesn't mean that the operation goes well if, you know, if the operating surgeons don't know the anatomy of the organ they're operating on.

00:10:38.000 And so that I see right now as sort of my prime function is to just teach more and more of the anatomy of the organ so that the people who are operating on the patient, the American homeland, and generally speaking, the American influence and power projection into foreign countries comes out better, smarter.

00:11:00.000 A little bit more honest.

00:11:01.000 And there is a hard domestic firewall against our foreign-facing dirty tricks. 0.94

00:11:08.000 Criminal penalties against agencies who go against this.

00:11:13.000 Civil penalties so that you can sue both the agencies and the NGOs who are sponsored.

00:11:18.000 Maybe with treble damages in a bill from Congress so that...

00:11:22.000 If USAID, in whatever form it continues to take, whether that's at the State Department or whether it gets rolled back out into another independent agency, that you could sue the agencies as an individual if they've broken that domestic firewall so that there's an incentive at the agency on their own budget to tightly oversee these things.

00:11:42.000 There's so much that can be done to bring this in line in a smarter and more moral way.

00:11:52.000 I think one of the most offensive things to Americans is that all this was being done and all this money was being spent while they were denying money to people that clearly needed it.

00:12:06.000 Like particularly victims of natural disasters like Maui.

00:12:12.000 The fact that they're spending all this money on those things, and yet they gave those people a one-time check of $770 or something along those lines.

00:12:22.000 Right.

00:12:22.000 Well, this gets to the fundamental heart of the breach of the social contract that this thing was always set up to do.

00:12:29.000 It was really set up in 1948 when George Kennan created this...

00:12:36.000 NSC 10-2, this National Security Council.

00:12:39.000 We completely reoriented the structure of the American empire in 1948 after World War II. In 1947, we passed something called the National Security Act.

00:12:48.000 That's what established the CIA. That's what established the National Security Council, which coordinates all of our foreign-facing empire management work.

00:12:57.000 It renamed the Department of War to the Department of Defense so that it didn't look like we were acquiring territory by military force, which had just been banned under international law, under the UN Declaration of Human Rights.

00:13:09.000 And so we moved from primarily kinetic warfare into what George Kennan called, just two months before he created the plausible deniability doctrine that we live under, he called this organized political warfare.

00:13:21.000 And he has a great memo from April 30th, 1948. It's just 12 days after the CI's first operation, first time it ever overthrew or rigged the election of a foreign government.

00:13:33.000 This was the April 1948 election in Italy that pitted a pro-Western candidate against a sort of pro-Soviet candidate.

00:13:43.000 And so the U.S. State Department felt it was essential to tip the scales of that election because it showed that the pro-Soviet candidate was winning 60 to 40.

00:13:52.000 This is all declassified and all the major people who are involved in that operation have all come out and said this publicly.

00:13:59.000 So basically we threw together this ramshackle effort to tilt that election by pumping in propaganda, by using charities and churches as fronts to funnel money into the pro-Western political party.

00:14:15.000 We piped in the Greg Garbo movie.

00:14:18.000 We worked with the mafia and we worked with mafia-connected unions because these were all assets for the War Department during World War II because Mussolini was cracking down on them.

00:14:34.000 So the War Department had a relationship with these.

00:14:36.000 Organized criminal networks to serve as a beachhead against Mussolini.

00:14:41.000 But we kept those relationships in order to run this pro-democracy regime change thing.

00:14:46.000 So in 1948, when we established the secrecy doctrine that we now live under, all these NGOs work under this cover effectively because of their sponsoring organizations, USAID or CIA or state.

00:14:58.000 And he called it the inauguration of organized political warfare.

00:15:01.000 And what he said is, we need to create a covert apparatus to hide what we do.

00:15:05.000 From the rest of the world to do secret political warfare on the low.

00:15:10.000 And the problem is, is the American people are not going to like this.

00:15:13.000 The American people do not understand the intricacies of international relations.

00:15:17.000 They think there's always an easy political cure-all.

00:15:20.000 And they do not understand.

00:15:22.000 They think there's a fundamental difference between peace and war.

00:15:25.000 And what he proposed is, and this is just two months before this would formally be given to the CIA to do.

00:15:36.000 This worked gangbusters in Italy.

00:15:38.000 We need to replicate this everywhere.

00:15:40.000 We need to create a capacity to do black propaganda, to do economic sabotage, demolition. 1.00

00:15:47.000 There's a whole list of what's authorized under NSC 10-2.

00:15:50.000 And what he says is, the American people are not necessarily going to like this, and we're going to need to effectively hide what we do from them, because if they find out, then the rest of the world finds out.

00:15:59.000 If we're trying to run an operation in Eurasia...

00:16:02.000 And we report this in U.S. News.

00:16:04.000 Well, then any person in Eurasia who reads U.S. News now knows about it.

00:16:07.000 And so that was authorized at the time simultaneous with the Smith-Munt Act, which are you familiar with the Smith-Munt Act?

00:16:16.000 Is that the 2011-2012 thing where Obama allowed people to use propaganda against United States citizens?

00:16:23.000 Yeah.

00:16:24.000 What was done then under Obama was the effective repeal of it.

00:16:29.000 It was called the Smith-Munt Modernization Act. 0.62

00:16:31.000 But the modernization got rid of the whole purpose of it, the firewall, because at the time, the media and media control was seen as the linchpin crux of winning the Cold War, piping in pro-U.S. media influence, because everything moved after World War II from kinetic warfare...

00:16:55.000 And military occupation.

00:16:56.000 We used to militarily occupy the Philippines, for example, after we won the Spanish-American War.

00:17:00.000 But that was banned under international law, territorial acquisition by military force in 1948. So we had to win elections.

00:17:08.000 And we had to influence the passage of...

00:17:12.000 Laws in foreign countries by having an apparatus inside those countries that influenced the hearts and minds of people, which influenced who they voted for, which then determined the government.

00:17:22.000 So you had to move towards political vassalage rather than military occupation.

00:17:27.000 And what the Smithmont Act did is simultaneous with the creation of this in 1948, Congress recognized the Frankensteinian monster they were creating by authorizing a covert permanent Department of Dirty Tricks.

00:17:40.000 And this is their phrase, not mine, to do this cloak and dagger, to infiltrate and co-opt the universities, the unions, the media, the politicians, the judges, the whole swarm army.

00:17:53.000 You know, what I have been calling for a long time the USAID Truman Show, because, you know, these people in these foreign countries have no idea, you know, how many how many things they interact with that are effectively a movie set being constructed by the U.S. State Department and its sister influence orgs.

00:18:10.000 But the point that I'm getting at here is the Smith-Munt Act in 1948 said, okay, you guys can do this.

00:18:17.000 State Department can do this. 0.96

00:18:18.000 CIA can do this.

00:18:19.000 USAID, when it came along 13 years later, could do this.

00:18:22.000 But we...

00:18:24.000 So...

00:18:26.000 There was a guy named Frank Wisner who was known as one of the godfather figures of the CIA. He's known for creating what was called the Wisner's Wurlitzer, which was a, it's like a church organ, and that he would brag that he could play the international media like a symphony to make any media narrative go viral in any country on earth because of the suite of CIA proprietary media functions and its distribution network.

00:18:50.000 Especially when the U.S. had first-mover advantage in radio and print.

00:18:53.000 It's basically the U.S. and U.K. were the only games in town, really, in having robust radio, film, TV, and print media.

00:19:02.000 So Smith-Mont said, okay, you can do that abroad.

00:19:06.000 You can plant fake news stories in France.

00:19:09.000 You can have...

00:19:13.000 Propaganda blare into Africa or Western Europe or Central Asia.

00:19:18.000 But that can't come home.

00:19:19.000 You can't psyop our own people with your propaganda organ abroad.

00:19:24.000 Because the point of authorizing this is that we get cheaper gas, we get import-export markets, we get a high standard of living because if a foreign government doesn't want to give up its resources or allow a U.S. military base or allow...

00:19:40.000 Joint partnerships or exports of goods or US multinational corporations to operate there, then the American people suffer economically.

00:19:49.000 So it was always designed to say, listen, you can do this dirty stuff abroad, but it can't come home.

00:19:56.000 And even that protection, which lasted for 70 years, and we only lost it a decade ago, we're up against a much actually We have a Smithmont problem for funding and operations.

00:20:20.000 It's not just propaganda.

00:20:21.000 The blob, our foreign policy establishment, can fund groups that effectively work with prosecutors domestically or that work at media, sort of dual use.

00:20:37.000 to do media propaganda abroad, but they operate here, or social media censorship to coerce foreign countries to pass foreign censorship laws that explicitly and are intended to attack U.S. social media companies and in U.S. peer-to-peer speech.

00:20:52.000 So we need that protection.

00:20:54.000 If we're going to keep this function at all, we need a hard firewall and absolute grotesque penalties for any violation.

00:21:04.000 So when you're watching all this unfold, one of the things that I've been seeing is that there's been legal action to try to halt some of it.

00:21:15.000 They've been told to destroy any information that they got from certain databases.

00:21:20.000 What's your take on this and whether any of that is going to hold up?

00:21:25.000 Oh, 100%.

00:21:25.000 I don't know if it's going to hold up.

00:21:28.000 I think it's going to be a legal dogfight.

00:21:30.000 This is...

00:21:32.000 You know, it's funny because it's sort of a circular dragon eating its own tail because you're going after the primary soft power projection organ of the blob because it's been weaponized against Americans.

00:21:45.000 But what is the blob authorized to do?

00:21:47.000 What is USAID authorized to do under statute?

00:21:50.000 Well, something they call judicial reform, which is USAID poaching, funding financially the networks around judges, around courts, around the legal system, around the governance structure of every country on planet Earth.

00:22:07.000 I mean, Jamie, if you want to just go through a fun exercise right now, you can even put on screen just a simple Google search so people can see just how open source this is.

00:22:15.000 And I can walk through specific damning examples of this.

00:22:18.000 But if you just type in on Google the word USAID and then in a Boolean quotes, judicial reform.

00:22:27.000 And what you're going to see are basically 100 countries that USAID is going after the judges, Going after the judges, going after the legal system in order to rig the scales of justice in favor of the foreign policy establishment's interest there.

00:22:47.000 And this has fully come home.

00:22:49.000 And I can go through some examples of this.

00:22:51.000 For example, there's a group called the OCCRP. You can think of it as the Corruption Reporting Project.

00:23:02.000 This is a group that half of its funding comes from USAID and the U.S. State Department.

00:23:12.000 USAID and the State Department have a veto right over the staff that it can hire.

00:23:16.000 This is the largest consortium of investigative journalists on planet Earth.

00:23:20.000 This is the group that broke the Panama Papers.

00:23:22.000 They got all these hacked documents.

00:23:25.000 They got special access to it.

00:23:27.000 I don't have any facts on this.

00:23:30.000 I'm simply noting that it's an oddity that a group funded by a major CIA funding conduit, USAID, while the CIA has the ability to hack any target around the world that's authorized by the National Security Council.

00:23:46.000 They're getting these special access documents that are reportedly either hacked or leaked, and they're being sponsored by the group that's connected to something with a hacking power.

00:23:58.000 But I don't know that for a fact.

00:23:59.000 I'm simply noting that for investigative purposes for oversight bodies who may want to ask questions.

00:24:06.000 But they've won hundreds of awards.

00:24:11.000 Their name has been so pristine for so long.

00:24:14.000 They've been around for almost 20 years.

00:24:17.000 And they were sponsored in order to do...

00:24:19.000 They do investigative hit-piece journalism about corruption.

00:24:22.000 And what they do is they go after all of the State Department and USAID and DOD's opponents in the region.

00:24:29.000 So, for example, Jamie, I texted you this beforehand, but if the first thing you want to put on screen are the first two images that I texted you, this is from the USAID.gov website.

00:24:38.000 And I think this will shock people when they see this.

00:24:45.000 With the USAID.gov URL right there, And so that you can see how...

00:24:51.000 Yeah, so if you go to the first page that I texted you, and then we'll get to this one.

00:24:57.000 This is the first thing you said.

00:24:57.000 Okay, I'm sorry, the second one then?

00:25:00.000 Yeah, okay.

00:25:01.000 So here it is.

00:25:02.000 This is USAID's Strengthening Transparency and Accountability Through Investigative Reporting Program.

00:25:07.000 Okay?

00:25:08.000 What you'll see here is you'll see the life of activity.

00:25:11.000 This fund is...

00:25:12.000 They are still being funded through this grant.

00:25:15.000 And this is for Europe and Eurasia.

00:25:17.000 And you'll see the countries, Eastern Partnership, Armenia, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine, and Western Balkans.

00:25:23.000 If you scroll down, you'll see USA spending, USA spending, USA funding is $20 million.

00:25:30.000 $20 million that our taxpayers paid to everything.

00:25:35.000 Listen, they don't report on, you know, kittens being saved.

00:25:39.000 And so, if you scroll...

00:26:09.000 If you go back to that page, which is page two of this USAID thing, here's what you see.

00:26:14.000 So for $20 million of investment from USAID, here are the, and this is live on the website.

00:26:22.000 You can find this in the Wayback Machine right now because the USAID website's down.

00:26:25.000 This is USAID, the U.S. government bragging about the achievements of what they achieved by spending $20 million.

00:26:33.000 At least $4.5 billion in fines levied against targets of these hit pieces.

00:26:40.000 Now, by the way, I should note that the head of the OCCRP was busted in a major documentary that is very little distribution, but I encourage everyone to watch, where he said, because this was, I think, a year and a half ago or whatnot, but they're up to over $10 billion now.

00:26:57.000 What's the documentary?

00:26:58.000 It's on the WikiLeaks X page right now.

00:27:02.000 It's by a group of German journalists who had one-on-one interviews with the head of this group, OCCRP, as well as the USAID grant coordinator and others.

00:27:13.000 And so it's straight from the horse's mouth.

00:27:15.000 And he says in that interview, I believe his name is Drew Sullivan, that it's now over $10 billion.

00:27:22.000 And he brags that that is a...

00:27:24.000 I think he said it was a 20,000% return on investment because all these dollars were, quote, returned to government coffers.

00:27:33.000 So for $20 million of mercenary media for the state, state-sponsored hit pieces, the government's got $10 billion back.

00:27:44.000 That's a 1995 Amazon-level return on investment.

00:27:51.000 But now let's get into the darker stuff.

00:27:54.000 548 policy changes by the government or actions by civil society and the private sector.

00:28:00.000 Now, we don't know if these policy changes are good or bad.

00:28:03.000 Do you think USAID would list them as accomplishments if they were not in furtherance of USAID's or the State Department's foreign policy goals in the region?

00:28:12.000 What they are saying and trying to sort of speak through their teeth, as they say it, is that they proudly sponsored hit piece journalism to ruin people's lives and go after political targets in order to change the policies is that they proudly sponsored hit piece journalism to ruin people's lives and go after political Now, it goes on to say 21 resignations and sackings, including of a president and prime minister.

00:28:41.000 Now, the head of OCCRP in this documentary openly says that their reporting caused, I think it was five or six different governments.

00:28:54.000 So this is state-sponsored media hit pieces so that prosecutors can arrest presidents and prime ministers to regime change their government and install a more pro-U.S. political vassal figure in the region.

00:29:08.000 And then the last one is 456 arrests and indictments.

00:29:12.000 And this, again, is listed as a USAID achievement.

00:29:15.000 We don't know what these people did.

00:29:17.000 We don't know whether they're guilty or innocent or whether or not these were political prosecutions like you see right now with the New York District Attorney's Office, which is a whole other USAID-connected can of worms.

00:29:30.000 These are state-sponsored hit pieces for hire in order to give the Justice Department, the prosecutors in a region, the ammunition to arrest the enemies of the state.

00:29:41.000 The prosecutors don't have the capacity to do a whole investigative journalism dig.

00:29:45.000 They might not have access to hacked documents that, for example, the CIA, the NSA, or deeply connected political insiders might be able to give to a group like OCCRP. Now, USAID gets a veto right over who they can hire.

00:29:59.000 OCCRP has to submit an annual work plan to be submitted to and reviewed for approval by the State Department and USAID. And here's the kicker of it all.

00:30:11.000 USAID dug up, I'm sorry, OCCRP paid for by us, U.S. taxpayers, dug up dirt on Rudy Giuliani's work in Ukraine.

00:30:21.000 This is because this was part of the 2019 impeachment and Rudy Giuliani and his work in Ukraine.

00:30:28.000 They went and dug up dirt on Rudy Giuliani, a domestic U.S. citizen, high-profile political figure, actually attorney to the U.S. president.

00:30:37.000 And then that dirt came home and was used as part of the basis for the 2019 impeachment of the sitting president, Donald Trump.

00:30:45.000 That would have never happened unless USAID sponsored that hit piece work.

00:30:51.000 And then they did the same thing with Paul Manafort.

00:30:55.000 Because it's the same foreign policy blob that went after Trump in the first place because of his difference in foreign policy vision around Ukraine, Russia, and other major.

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00:32:28.000 The lawfare against Giuliani is interesting.

00:32:31.000 Like, what is the case that he lost?

00:32:34.000 It was in Georgia, and he was accusing these women who worked at this election facility of something, some improprietary.

00:32:45.000 Right.

00:32:46.000 This is a different case than that, because this was related to the 2019 impeachment and all the Ukraine kerfuffle around the quid pro quo call, allegedly.

00:32:57.000 President Trump made to President Zelensky, which, by the way, we should get to USAID's role in the Joe Biden quid pro quo side of this in a second.

00:33:06.000 But that case, I believe, related to two workers in Georgia, and it was related to the whole investigation of election fraud and whether or not there may have been fraud perpetrated in the Georgia election in, I believe it was either 2021 or it may have been I'm sorry, 2020. That case I'm not deep in the weeds on, but I have to say this as well.

00:33:37.000 And Jamie, I don't know if the whole audience is familiar with this clip, but it's an incredible scandalous clip.

00:33:43.000 Do you remember when Joe Biden was at the Council on Foreign Relations and bragged that he got the top prosecutor in Ukraine Fired by the Ukrainian government because he explicitly conditioned the firing of the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma.

00:34:05.000 He expressly conditioned their receipt of a billion dollars in U.S. financial assistance on the firing of Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor.

00:34:17.000 And he said, well, son of a bee.

00:34:19.000 He was fired.

00:34:21.000 It's so crazy watching him brag about that publicly. 1.00

00:34:23.000 It just shows you what an idiot he is. 1.00

00:34:25.000 You know what that billion dollars in financial assistance was? 1.00

00:34:28.000 It was a USAID grant.

00:34:32.000 Yeah, it's the carrots and sticks.

00:34:33.000 Find that video, Jamie, because it's a shocking video.

00:34:37.000 It's just the hubris and the ego that someone has to have to speak of this publicly while it's being filmed, not just publicly.

00:34:45.000 Not just in a room, not even just saying it out loud, but saying it in front of the Council of Foreign Relations backdrop.

00:34:53.000 And actually, before you play this, can I make one quick note for the audience that everyone can look up publicly?

00:34:59.000 The Council of Foreign Relations, I'm just about to text Jamie another thing related to this.

00:35:04.000 I'm going to pull up the USAID grant so that everyone can see this billion-dollar USAID grant that he's referring to here and what's in the grant details.

00:35:13.000 When Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, running the State Department that USAID answers to, right? 0.66

00:35:18.000 USAID is independent but guided by the State Department.

00:35:22.000 Because it's a State Department function.

00:35:23.000 It has to advance U.S. interests.

00:35:24.000 Well, when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, Council of Foreign Relations had just opened up a D.C. office.

00:35:30.000 They're New York-based.

00:35:30.000 And she went over to them and she made a speech and she said, thank you, Foreign Relations, for opening up your D.C. office.

00:35:36.000 That way I don't need to travel all the way to New York to be told what to do.

00:35:43.000 I was the head of the State Department.

00:35:45.000 She really said it like that?

00:35:47.000 Yeah, everyone can look this up.

00:35:48.000 That might not be verbatim, but that was the...

00:35:52.000 It was as explicit as that, effectively.

00:35:57.000 But if you want to play this...

00:35:58.000 I remember going over convincing our team, our brothers too, convincing us that we should be providing for loan guarantees.

00:36:06.000 And I went over, I guess the...

00:36:09.000 12th, 13th time to Kyiv, and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee.

00:36:17.000 And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against a state prosecutor, and they didn't.

00:36:26.000 So they said they were walking out to the press conference and said, no, we're not going to give you the billion dollars.

00:36:33.000 They said, you have no authority.

00:36:34.000 You're not the president.

00:36:35.000 I said, "The president said, I said, call him." I said, "I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars." I said, "You're not getting a billion?

00:36:42.000 I'm going to be leaving here, I think it was, what, six hours?" I looked, I said, "I'm leaving in six hours.

00:36:47.000 If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money." Well, son of a bitch, got fired. 1.00

00:36:53.000 And they put in place someone who was solid at the time. 1.00

00:36:58.000 Solid.

00:36:59.000 Still, they made some genuine substantial changes.

00:37:03.000 Yeah, so there's...

00:37:07.000 There's two things to immediately follow up on that.

00:37:10.000 So, Jamie, I just sent you two things over text here.

00:37:17.000 The first one is the U.S. is that billion-dollar loan guarantee.

00:37:22.000 And then I sent you another one about securing commitments.

00:37:28.000 It's just wild that someone would be so brazen to talk about that so publicly.

00:37:35.000 No one's going to look into someone that was solid.

00:37:38.000 What was wrong with the first guy?

00:37:39.000 Let's go into depth.

00:37:40.000 The fact that you wouldn't think, like, maybe someone's going to investigate what was the first guy looking into.

00:37:45.000 Oh, why was my son running Burisma?

00:37:47.000 Like, what is going on?

00:37:48.000 Why is he making $10 million a year there?

00:37:50.000 What is going on?

00:37:51.000 What is this?

00:37:52.000 Well, okay, so this was a billion dollar...

00:37:54.000 Okay, so this will actually...

00:37:55.000 Go to the other one.

00:37:56.000 Okay, we'll start with this.

00:37:57.000 Okay, so here's from USAID. USAID announces...

00:38:01.000 Now, this is, again, the...

00:38:03.000 Basically, the final months of the Obama administration, this is right before the November 2016 election, USAID announces a billion-dollar loan guarantee.

00:38:11.000 Remember, he referenced the loan guarantee.

00:38:13.000 By the way, do they pay these loans back?

00:38:15.000 Well, depends on if they play ball or not.

00:38:18.000 This is another one of these things, right?

00:38:21.000 If you're a good boy and you do what the blob tells you to do, maybe we can be flexible in loan forgiveness.

00:38:27.000 Maybe we can allow you to punt the default.

00:38:31.000 But you'll see it's...

00:38:32.000 But these are the carrots and sticks.

00:38:34.000 This is why we infiltrate and co-opt these institutions and why you have a $44 billion annual slush fund around the world to do this.

00:38:42.000 But you'll see, it's the issuance of the billion-dollar loan guarantee to the government of Ukraine, and it's to support the implementation of...

00:38:50.000 Governance reforms.

00:38:51.000 So we condition it on you changing the policies of your government.

00:38:58.000 And this is already 2016 after we installed a coup.

00:39:03.000 Yes.

00:39:03.000 In 2014. Yes, yes.

00:39:05.000 And remember the last time I was here, we went over the 2019, Zelensky's first month in office, the red lines memo, you know, talk about how do you prove you're a good boy?

00:39:15.000 Well, when you get the red lines memo that you will suffer political instability unless you do the 25 below listed policy things with your government, you know, that factors into what the U.S. ambassador in the region will tell their Ukrainian or other government counterparts.

00:39:33.000 Loan guarantees and whatnot are conditioned on.

00:39:35.000 But so if you go to the, you'll notice that Biden there used a very specific phrase there about securing commitments.

00:39:42.000 I don't know if everyone caught that.

00:39:43.000 I want to note the similarity of that to if you go to the other screenshot, Jamie, that text you here.

00:39:49.000 I'm sorry that my mug is on this.

00:39:51.000 I just pulled this up.

00:39:52.000 What are you doing with your lips?

00:39:53.000 Yeah, well, I know.

00:39:56.000 We'd been talking right before we started filming about just throwing receipts up on screen.

00:39:59.000 This is just a live stream series that I do on X. They caught you mid-words.

00:40:04.000 I know.

00:40:05.000 But this is $1.5 million.

00:40:06.000 So USAID has given $27 million in grants to the Tide Center, which is the fiscal sponsor that gives the 501c3 stats to the Black Lives Matter Global Network.

00:40:21.000 And to a group called Fair and Just Prosecution, which basically manages prosecutors who are simultaneously funded by the Open Society Foundation.

00:40:31.000 They work with Alvin Bragg and Letitia James and all these other ones.

00:40:35.000 But you'll see here, and this is a $1.5 million grant, you'll see that exact phrase that Joe Biden used about securing commitments from governments to fight corruption.

00:40:50.000 Sometimes this diplomatic statecraft, this strong-arm pressure, is done directly by the vice president.

00:40:56.000 Sometimes it's done by interlocutors, like our state-sponsored NGO swarm, who allow our ambassadors and allow the White House to maintain a layer of plausible deniability, that it's an intermediary saying it, and they can say much harsher things than what can be conveyed and maybe used against you in a formal diplomatic channel.

00:41:18.000 And I said one more thing, Jamie.

00:41:20.000 If you pull up, if you go to my X feed and you just type in the phrase USAID Burisma, because this is another element of this.

00:41:27.000 Again, how is this all weaponized at home and whatnot?

00:41:30.000 So Victor Shokin was investigating Burisma.

00:41:34.000 Joe Biden personally weaponized USAID in order to force a foreign country's prosecutor to be fired in order to get that billion.

00:41:43.000 Can I stop you for a second?

00:41:44.000 What was the investigation of Burisma?

00:41:46.000 What did it entail?

00:41:48.000 I believe it was a similar corruption probe, that there was misuse of funding.

00:41:54.000 All this stuff is...

00:41:56.000 You know, well-documented in Miranda Devine's book, The Big Guy.

00:42:02.000 So if you open those four screenshots, I don't know if you're able to center it or zoom out a little bit. 0.98

00:42:10.000 Western Protection is a great fucking title. 0.97

00:42:14.000 USAID to Help Young Biden. 0.99

00:42:15.000 This is in 2014. Hey, remember when Hunter Biden's permanent blanket pardon goes back to?

00:42:22.000 It goes back to 2014. Right.

00:42:26.000 This directs USAID to guarantee loans.

00:42:29.000 So it's loan guarantees for every phase of development of oil and gas in Ukraine, Moldova, and Georgia.

00:42:35.000 Now, if you go to the next screenshot in this, this is a foiled...

00:42:47.000 Or legally obtained internal document at the State Department, which says, despite his ruined name in Ukraine, Zlochewski is actively campaigning.

00:42:55.000 He's been sending letters to ambassadors Yovanovitch and Pyatt.

00:43:01.000 They note that Hunter Biden and Devin Archer are on the board.

00:43:04.000 And they say, even internally, at state, USA does have cooperation with Burisma.

00:43:11.000 It says pre-existing, small-scale, pre-existing cooperation.

00:43:14.000 They're formally cooperating with Burisma in the region.

00:43:18.000 They're noting that.

00:43:19.000 And then if you go to the next screenshot.

00:43:23.000 Now, this again is State Department email traffic that's been unearthed, okay?

00:43:29.000 So they're talking about doing co-branding with USAID and Burisma and the public-private partnership around USAID and Burisma.

00:43:41.000 But then noting, quote, the very sticky wicket of the Hunter Biden connection on Burisma's board.

00:43:48.000 And then they go on to say that, you know, they want to create incentives for journalists to ensure responsible and unbiased coverage.

00:43:55.000 Very sticky wicket.

00:43:56.000 What a weird way to phrase that in an official email.

00:43:59.000 Right.

00:44:00.000 What they're saying is it would be a major scandal if everyone knew the extent of it.

00:44:04.000 They know it looks unseemly.

00:44:05.000 They don't want the media to report on the massive conflict of interest of Joe Biden going in and kicking out that prosecutor and conditioning USAID money on it while USAID is directly working with Burisma.

00:44:19.000 The State Department, using its media mockingbird apparatus funded by your tax dollars, the swarm of NGOs, has reported publicly this week that 90% of Ukrainian media outlets are funded by the U.S. government.

00:44:31.000 90%.

00:44:31.000 Talk about a USAID Truman show.

00:44:33.000 Jesus Christ.

00:44:34.000 And so, if they're funded by the State Department, guess what?

00:44:38.000 There's a State Department grant coordinator.

00:44:39.000 Guess what?

00:44:40.000 If they want to keep getting their contributions, there's going to need to be review and approval by USAID. And by state, because often these are co-grants, and so they have the capacity to ensure that the incentives are aligned for the journalists to be responsible with the way they report on the USAID-Burisma connection while Joe Biden is weaponizing USAID to protect Burisma.

00:45:08.000 By the way, I should note, Hunter Biden's law firm actually pitched using Burisma as an instrument of statecraft to the State Department because The more you capacity-build Burisma, the more endogenous gas Ukraine is able to supply, and so that's less gas being exported into Europe from Gazprom and Russia.

00:45:27.000 So they blend this.

00:45:28.000 It advances U.S. national interest, but, hey, it makes us rich along the way.

00:45:32.000 So, you know, it's the same reason Pfizer gets to keep all the profits, you know, for, you know, when there's a vaccine mandate.

00:45:39.000 You know, they say, well, we're just rewarding, you know, this.

00:45:43.000 We're doing such good work.

00:45:44.000 If this is a charity, why aren't you giving the money back to the American people?

00:45:49.000 Should we put some cap on this?

00:45:51.000 We're incentivizing this pioneering approach and we're uniquely in the position to do it.

00:45:55.000 And what's important about this is this explains for a lot of people that are very baffled by obvious propaganda and misinformation that's being propagated by the mainstream media.

00:46:06.000 When you look at mainstream newspapers and television shows saying things that are just factually incorrect, you could research it.

00:46:17.000 It's not hard to find out.

00:46:19.000 And you see them propagate this stuff.

00:46:21.000 This is all the same sort of thing, but this is happening on U.S. soil.

00:46:25.000 Oh, exactly.

00:46:26.000 Well, actually, Jamie, if you pull that receipt back up, there's a paragraph there we didn't read, but that's useful to this.

00:46:31.000 And then there's another topic related to this that I think makes this point even harder.

00:46:35.000 But look at that fourth paragraph there.

00:46:37.000 This is from the U.S. State Department, which is in control of managing all of the media assets, those 90% of media assets in Ukraine and the ones that simultaneously operate here.

00:46:46.000 I would offer that Burisma's incentive to support could plausibly read, the main objective of Burisma was to create incentives for journalists to offer sympathetic coverage.

00:46:56.000 Wow.

00:46:57.000 Main objective of Burisma.

00:46:58.000 The main objective.

00:47:00.000 It's an energy corporation.

00:47:01.000 Yes, yes.

00:47:03.000 Humanitarian aid.

00:47:04.000 You know, this is a for-profit.

00:47:06.000 This is such a wild statement.

00:47:09.000 The main objective of Burisma was to create incentives for journalists to offer sympathetic coverage of the company on energy issues.

00:47:17.000 Yes.

00:47:18.000 Wow.

00:47:19.000 Right.

00:47:19.000 They want to pitch it as a sort of patriotic, pro-Western...

00:47:26.000 They bought the media.

00:47:29.000 And they bought the media here.

00:47:30.000 On that topic, can we talk about a related scandal and, frankly, monstrosity that the American people need to understand the full extent of its influence on American hearts and minds?

00:47:43.000 No, we can't talk about that.

00:47:44.000 Okay.

00:47:44.000 All right.

00:47:45.000 Well, let's go on to the next thing.

00:47:47.000 Okay.

00:47:48.000 So, Jamie, if you go to X, I think probably the best thread on this currently published is the WikiLeaks thread on Internews, which just reading some of the statistics in that will help make sense of some of the clips and screenshots that I'm which just reading some of the statistics in that will help make sense of some of the clips and screenshots that I'm going to show you about its operations that impact

00:48:16.000 So, if you just look up, just type in the word Internews, one word, I-N-T-E-R-N-E-W-S, and you go to search on the WikiLeaks profile, you'll see...

00:48:30.000 Yeah, here we go.

00:48:31.000 If you just top that top one, you know, USAID has pushed nearly half the...

00:48:34.000 So this...

00:48:35.000 So Internews, I've been talking about for a long time, but now the stage is sort of set to really show the extent of this.

00:48:46.000 What we do is we create these pretty little predicates, these pretty little lie words, weasel words, to hide from the American people and especially from foreign governments what we're really doing in the area.

00:48:55.000 So we have a catchphrase at state and in statecraft.

00:48:59.000 It's called independent media.

00:49:01.000 You can think of that as the State Department's word for good guy.

00:49:05.000 It doesn't mean independent.

00:49:06.000 They are funded by us.

00:49:07.000 They are not independent from the government.

00:49:09.000 They literally submit their work and approval plans for what they cover for review and approval to the U.S. State Department.

00:49:17.000 They are dog-walked the whole way.

00:49:19.000 But we call them independent because they are said to be independent from foreign governments influence.

00:49:25.000 So basically, they're independent from the Chinese government or they're independent from the Russian government.

00:49:31.000 Just like with the word USAID itself that we talked about last time, it's your mind playing tricks on you.

00:49:36.000 You're seeing aid, but it's Agency for International Development.

00:49:40.000 But they do the same thing with independent media, which is that internally to them it means it's a good guy for us because it's independent from our enemies.

00:49:49.000 But when Americans see that, they think, well, independent, that means it's a free actor who's not being sponsored by any government.

00:49:58.000 But under the banner of USAID's independent media and media sustainability branches, we fund half a billion dollars a year to this network of, again, over 4,000 media outlets.

00:50:12.000 It reaches 778 million people, 9,000 journalists trained.

00:50:17.000 Remember last time we went over the Atlantic Council with seven CIA directors in annual funding from USAID, as well as the State Department and Pentagon, how they were holding up iCall.

00:50:27.000 B.S. placards and putting Trump tweets on screen to flag for disinformation.

00:50:33.000 If you remember, we went over that.

00:50:34.000 Well, this is what training journalists looks like.

00:50:37.000 Not only do they have the direct spawn of a media octopus under their direct...

00:50:49.000 Sub-grantee group, but they then go out and train the journalists who work at all the other ones who aren't directly sponsored.

00:50:54.000 So they reach everywhere.

00:50:56.000 And you'll see here, for example, it makes reference to Gene Bergo, who is making half a million dollars a year there.

00:51:05.000 And if you go now, I'm going to show this domestic impact real quick and then a couple screenshots.

00:51:10.000 So this has been going viral on X. I've been talking about USAID's role in the censorship industry.

00:51:16.000 And if you look up, if you just look up Internews and you just plug in the name, you know, if you just copy paste that, you know, Gene Burgo phrase, you'll see this in the video section because it's everywhere now.

00:51:29.000 So she made speeches for a long time, but this is a big one.

00:51:38.000 Here we go, this one right here.

00:51:39.000 Okay.

00:51:40.000 So USAID funded Internews CEO pushes for global advertising exclusion list.

00:51:45.000 To censor disinformation.

00:51:47.000 This is a 28-second clip.

00:51:49.000 Like what they did to X. Yeah, exactly.

00:51:52.000 Disinformation makes money, and that's one of them.

00:51:54.000 We need to follow that money, and we need to work with the, and particularly the global advertising industry, that a lot of those dollars go to pretty bad, bad content.

00:52:03.000 And so you can work really hard on exclusion lists or inclusion lists to really try to focus ad dollars and challenge.

00:52:10.000 Global advertising industry all around the world to focus our ad dollars towards the good news and information, the accurate and relevant news and information.

00:52:19.000 So this is USAID sponsoring both sides of this.

00:52:23.000 She runs a $500 million mercenary media for hippies for hire, Empire, sponsored by USAID. USAID also gave $68 million to the World Economic Forum itself.

00:52:36.000 And USAID's own internal documents show the explicit political targeting of these advertiser networks.

00:52:43.000 And I can show you receipts on that if you just type in the word CEPPS, C-E-P-P-S. And advertiser on my X timeline.

00:52:51.000 And I don't mean to just go receipt to receipt to receipt.

00:52:53.000 No, it's okay.

00:52:54.000 Actually, before we get to that, just so I can close the loop on something that's a little bit more accessible and less political.

00:53:00.000 Jamie, I texted you a screenshot of Internews in Brazil.

00:53:07.000 And one of them has at the top of it something called Rooted in Trust.

00:53:16.000 It keeps going up.

00:53:18.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:53:19.000 That one.

00:53:19.000 Yep.

00:53:20.000 Okay.

00:53:21.000 So this is Internews with a worldwide media octopus sponsored a half a billion dollars a year, you know, reaching 9,000 journalists, 5,000 media outlets.

00:53:32.000 And here's what they were doing just on COVID censorship.

00:53:39.000 So Rooted in Trust is an Internews program. 1.00

00:53:43.000 It's a global pandemic information response program to counter the unprecedented scale and speed and spread of rumors and misinformation.

00:53:51.000 All which turned out to be true.

00:53:52.000 All which turned out to be true.

00:53:54.000 Our own CIA says that.

00:53:56.000 Our own, you know, House Oversight Committee says that now.

00:54:00.000 Every single step of the way.

00:54:01.000 There's not one thing they said that turned out to be accurate.

00:54:03.000 Not the death rate.

00:54:05.000 Not the ability to stop infections and transmissions.

00:54:10.000 Not the side effects.

00:54:12.000 Not the fact that natural immunity is far superior.

00:54:15.000 None of it.

00:54:16.000 Not nothing.

00:54:17.000 Not one thing.

00:54:18.000 Not the lab leak theory.

00:54:19.000 Nothing.

00:54:20.000 Not even the funding of the research and the actual lab, which is also USAID, right?

00:54:26.000 Yes, yes.

00:54:27.000 $50 million.

00:54:28.000 Right, right.

00:54:29.000 From UC Davis to EcoHealth directly into...

00:54:32.000 Because I always say, when it's too dirty for the CIA, you give it to USAID. And that's why you have all this pandemic stuff.

00:54:39.000 Maybe we can get to that later.

00:54:40.000 But I want to just show the scale of this.

00:54:42.000 You sponsored your own state censorship.

00:54:47.000 Rooted in Trust has tracked more than 19,000 rumors about the virus across 14-plus languages globally, over 81 million people.

00:54:57.000 In response to the unique rumors sourced from each country context, this USAID-sponsored project has produced a total of over 130 rumor bulletins, 500 radio broadcasts, and 480 media stories.

00:55:12.000 Through a series of training opportunities, events, peer-to-peer networks, and small grants, Root& Trust has supported 550 local media organizations in order to scan and ban the internet.

00:55:25.000 And more importantly, to connect communities with...

00:55:29.000 Directly with timely and accurate COVID-19 information, which all turned out to be lies.

00:55:34.000 I only had time before this to text one page of this.

00:55:37.000 I mean, everyone should go through this document.

00:55:39.000 I'll post it on my X feed, and there's millions around this.

00:55:42.000 I mean, the whole global coordination was done through this, through USAID and the U.S. State Department and its partners in the U.K. and in NATO. And, you know, the fact that these very organs are implicated in it, these strange DARPA grants around creating the gain of function,

00:56:00.000 you know, the USAID, you know, grants that were all jumping, you know, animal to human for these things, you know, the presence of folks like Avril Haines, the deputy director of the CIA and then head of director of the director of national intelligence, you know.

00:56:20.000 At these censorship planning conferences for Event 201, the fact that state and DOD and the UK Foreign Office all funded all of the censorship organs like the Atlantic Council and Graphica and these others that we went over last time.

00:56:35.000 Basically, they're the prime suspect for the crime, and they sponsored the entire white blood cell apparatus to swarm any... 0.86

00:56:45.000 Kernel of truth penetrating the membrane in order to orchestrate the cover-up.

00:56:48.000 So they're on both sides of it.

00:56:52.000 And we can talk more about the inner news work there.

00:56:57.000 I want to, but I want to...

00:56:58.000 This is the darkest of conspiracy theories.

00:57:02.000 The darkest of conspiracy theories was that the leak was intentional.

00:57:06.000 The darkest of conspiracy theories is that this was planned.

00:57:10.000 They knew this was going to be a financial windfall.

00:57:12.000 It is the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the United States by far, from the working class to the elite.

00:57:20.000 It's like three plus, what, trillion dollars or something crazy like that?

00:57:25.000 We've already established that it was created in a lab.

00:57:29.000 We already established that USAID funded it.

00:57:32.000 We already established that Fauci et al.

00:57:34.000 lied.

00:57:35.000 about gain-of-function research, what they were doing.

00:57:39.000 The worst theory possible is that this was released on purpose.

00:57:44.000 Yeah, that would be the worst case scenario.

00:57:45.000 Have you ever danced that one around your head?

00:57:49.000 Because that's where you... 0.99

00:57:51.000 We know they're willing to do horrible, evil shit, but is there a ceiling on that? 0.99

00:58:01.000 Even now to this day, having spent So much of my life in it. 0.99

00:58:06.000 I try to just pursue the leads that I have and then try to let the conclusions come to me.

00:58:14.000 Certainly the fact that they funded the capacity to do this, they worked directly with all the networks that were both doing it and censoring it, puts you pretty much as, you know, they created it and they covered up at least the leak.

00:58:34.000 In terms of the intentionality for doing it, that is a really dark scenario.

00:58:41.000 There are a lot of things in American history that have that same mi-ha-li-ha distinction.

00:58:50.000 Do they make it happen or do they let it happen?

00:58:53.000 Do they let it happen or do they make it happen?

00:58:55.000 And both of them are major scandals that completely change the legitimacy and credibility of Policy changes in response to the crisis, for example.

00:59:06.000 Like, you know, take something like Pearl Harbor, right?

00:59:09.000 It's been declassified now, the McCollum memo, the Eight Action Plan.

00:59:13.000 Are you familiar with this?

00:59:15.000 Yes.

00:59:16.000 You know, and this was, you know, written before the bombing, and it was eight ways to get Japan to attack us, because we don't have diplomatic cover to declare war on them, but if...

00:59:28.000 If we get them to attack us and we can then spiral that into a war predicate, I mean, the same thing, for example, with the Northwoods memo with pretext to war with Cuba and cooking up all these, hijacking our own planes, sinking our own ships, doing riots on the streets of Miami and then saying that it was the Cuban government behind it. 0.55

00:59:49.000 Same thing with Vietnam, Gulf of Tonkin.

00:59:52.000 Same thing with the weapons of mass destruction predicate for invading Iraq.

00:59:59.000 Did we know that that – were we duped and the crime was negligence for letting our national security state believe the New York Times reporting on chemical and biological and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

01:00:15.000 Or did we make that happen?

01:00:20.000 Was that something that we knew was not true based on our own intelligence, but because there was a useful thing there?

01:00:28.000 And, you know, a lot of people have the same thoughts about issues around 9-11 and any number of crisis events.

01:00:34.000 And I suppose I have my own thoughts on it.

01:00:39.000 They're not fully settled.

01:00:41.000 And because they are beyond the evidence I currently have, I stay in the zone of This is what they did to create it.

01:00:50.000 This is what they did to cover it up.

01:00:52.000 Here are the stars in the sky.

01:00:54.000 Draw your own constellation from there.

01:00:57.000 That's a good way to put it.

01:00:58.000 Okay, back to what you were just about to talk about.

01:01:01.000 Yeah, so again, there's two simultaneous tasks that I have.

01:01:07.000 One is to burn down these rogue institutions that have been weaponized domestically and salt the earth behind them so that these kind of excesses can never come home again.

01:01:18.000 The other one is we do need U.S. soft power projection in order to maintain the standard of living and prosperity that we have.

01:01:26.000 You know, I give the example all the time, no blob, no pencils.

01:01:30.000 You can't make pencils in this country unless you depend on governments in Malaysia and South America and, you know, parts of Africa. 0.88

01:01:38.000 And if that's the case in, you know, for pencils, now do that exercise with petroleum.

01:01:44.000 Now do that exercise with cobalt, for example.

01:01:47.000 There was only one operational cobalt mine in all of the U.S., and in 2022, even that mine shut down.

01:01:55.000 So most of the cobalt's in the Congo.

01:01:57.000 If the Congolese government decides they don't want to allow you access to cobalt, well, there goes your capacity to create any high technology or renewable battery or anything.

01:02:08.000 There is potentially a need for some modified and more honest restrictions on our Department of Dirty Tricks.

01:02:16.000 For example, the CIA used to be allowed to assassinate world leaders in the 40s and 50s.

01:02:20.000 This is where we got in trouble in Congo with Lumumba or Allende or any number of these.

01:02:26.000 And then when those scandals got revealed, there were legislative reforms put in place and executive branch national security reforms put in place to say, OK, you can do dirty work, but not that dirty.

01:02:38.000 You can't do that.

01:02:39.000 The same thing needs to be done now for all of these things, many categories of things.

01:02:45.000 For example, we just played Internews and the Internews CEO campaigning to governments and corporations and private sector civil society organizations around the world that they need to economically blacklist news sites that operate on social media.

01:03:05.000 And those are U.S. news sites.

01:03:07.000 This is the basis of...

01:03:09.000 Lawsuits here in the U.S. like Daily Wire and The Federalist suing the State Department because U.S. news sites are in these advertiser blacklists.

01:03:18.000 And to that end, I want to note two things.

01:03:21.000 First, if you go to my X feed and you type in the word advertiser or advertisers, and if you need to, you can plug in the word USAID or CEPS, C-E-P-P-S in this.

01:03:31.000 And I want to show you that this is not...

01:03:34.000 Internews gone wrong. 1.00

01:03:36.000 This is not a half-a-billion-dollar-a-year grantee of USAID going rogue and being ideological about this.

01:03:43.000 This is top-down U.S. government policy from the White House, and I'll show you the documents on that, to the White House executive branch agencies like USAID and state.

01:03:54.000 Okay, if you go to search and you put in the word advertiser, yeah.

01:04:03.000 And it could be advertiser or advertisers.

01:04:06.000 Okay, so there you go.

01:04:07.000 So click on that left, the left image first.

01:04:12.000 Now, we talked about this group, CEPS, last time, you know, in our hit a few months ago.

01:04:19.000 CEPS is a program that is basically a joint baby of USAID and the State Department and is implemented by USAID's key operational arm, the National Down for Democracy.

01:04:30.000 But this is a USAID program.

01:04:33.000 On countering disinformation.

01:04:34.000 Internet censorship is what they do.

01:04:36.000 And we went over last time.

01:04:37.000 Remember we played that two-minute video where they were openly saying that the plan is to get foreign governments to pass legal reform, pass laws and regulations to stop the spread of misinformation on U.S. social media websites.

01:04:50.000 So USA would not be able to lobby the U.S. government to do that because we have a First Amendment.

01:04:54.000 Europe doesn't.

01:04:56.000 Brazil doesn't. 0.96

01:04:57.000 But here is from an internal document, February 2021. of USAID's SAS program.

01:05:03.000 And now, this is a 97-page document.

01:05:06.000 They referenced the word advertiser and advertising in this document 31 times in 97 pages.

01:05:12.000 And that was three years before that clip we just saw, how far back in motion this is.

01:05:16.000 And I can go back even further to that in 2017 and share clips on that and how this network coordinated the very ad boycotts that Elon is subject to and that brought Facebook and Google to their knees when they folded to advertiser boycotts.

01:05:29.000 There you go.

01:05:30.000 In order to disrupt the funding and financial incentive, using the same phrases that the internet CEO did, to disinform, attention is turned to the advertising industry, particularly with online advertising.

01:05:43.000 So it goes on to say, thus cutting the financial support in the ad tech space would obstruct disinformation actors.

01:05:51.000 They're not human beings.

01:05:52.000 They're not Americans with running mom and pop shops that depend on their Facebook page to be able to advertise their No, they're reduced to the inhuman disinformation actors from spreading messaging online.

01:06:07.000 So the efforts are being made to inform advertisers of the risk, such as the threat to brand safety.

01:06:12.000 So this is USAID saying, we've got to talk to these advertisers and say, hey, you know, brand safety is really important to all your brands.

01:06:20.000 It would be a shame if you were known for putting ads next to misinformation websites like Daily Wire and The Federalist.

01:06:28.000 And that goes on to say, additionally, with this data, organizations, and these are partner organizations, this group, SEPS, runs, you know, is, together with USAID and the State Department, they run a network of hundreds of NGOs around the world that all jointly carry this out.

01:06:43.000 This is what they're sponsored to do.

01:06:45.000 It says, the aim is to redirect funding to higher quality news domains and improve regulatory and market environments.

01:06:52.000 Regulatory means laws, laws about this, like the EU Digital Services Act.

01:06:58.000 So this is a top-down U.S. government plan to financially re-engineer the entire economics of the news industry in order to make it so that if you spread messaging against the state...

01:07:14.000 We're against a sensitive policy issue by the state.

01:07:17.000 You are put out of business.

01:07:18.000 You cannot professionalize.

01:07:20.000 You can't compete with CNN or New York Times or MSNBC. Just like this is what happened to Breitbart, for example, and they got caught up in this web.

01:07:26.000 They lost 99% of their advertising revenue.

01:07:29.000 They were going up like this.

01:07:30.000 And however you feel about Breitbart, these are the plain facts of this in action.

01:07:35.000 They were a rising star in the 2016 election.

01:07:37.000 Steve Bannon, who was the head of that, went on to be basically the top White House advisor directly.

01:07:42.000 They got crushed with 99% of their ad revenue.

01:07:45.000 This is why everyone's having to switch to bilking our own citizens to pay for it, because the natural thing advertisers would want to do, a return on investment for putting ads on news sites or social media, they can't do it because they're getting pressure from the government.

01:08:03.000 Now, look at the bottom.

01:08:04.000 Now, I don't have this, but any members of Congress or DOGE or House or Senate Oversight or White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, I implore you, a few examples of advertiser outreach are included in Annex 3. I don't have that annex.

01:08:21.000 It's not available on the USAID website that I downloaded this from before it went down.

01:08:29.000 USAID is giving out examples of advertiser outreach.

01:08:33.000 How to pressure them in order to do this.

01:08:35.000 And there's much more there.

01:08:36.000 If you go to the next slide, for example, you'll see they have whole categories of what USAID wants media companies to do, wants regulatory bodies to do, wants all of its other whole society partners to do.

01:08:51.000 But here's just the first two entries from this.

01:08:53.000 What can technology companies do?

01:08:54.000 So this is USAID telling Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, Reddit, Twitch.

01:09:02.000 Eliminate the financial incentives.

01:09:04.000 Nuke their ad revenue, if we don't like what they say.

01:09:08.000 What could national governments do?

01:09:10.000 Again, this is our government, funded by our tax dollars, telling foreign governments that they should regulate ad networks to kill the ad revenue of U.S. social media websites and U.S. news entities.

01:09:26.000 Like has been caught up in the advertiser database at State and USAID under the Biden administration.

01:09:32.000 And there's a million more examples like this.

01:09:34.000 But if you want to go to a really crazy one, there's a YouTube video that is still live.

01:09:40.000 It's by GlobSec.

01:09:42.000 Actually, before I turn to that, do you mind?

01:09:45.000 Am I going?

01:09:45.000 No, go ahead.

01:09:47.000 We're going to go to this May 2017 GlobSec video.

01:09:51.000 But before I do that, Jamie, I texted you an image of...

01:09:55.000 Of a piece that my foundation just published.

01:10:00.000 It says 23 EU organizations drive EU censorship law.

01:10:06.000 If you scroll up or actually if you scroll down.

01:10:15.000 Oh, you know what?

01:10:15.000 Actually, maybe I didn't text you.

01:10:16.000 It's at the top of my X feed right now.

01:10:18.000 And you'll see it might be like the fifth or sixth one down.

01:10:25.000 Okay, okay, right there.

01:10:26.000 Okay, so, oh, sorry, no, it's both the one above and below that.

01:10:31.000 So before we get to the one above that, let's go to the one right below that.

01:10:34.000 I said one more below that.

01:10:36.000 One more, one more, one more, one more, one more, one more.

01:10:39.000 It's, yeah, see those four screenshots?

01:10:42.000 Yeah, so we just reported this.

01:10:45.000 This is 23 U.S.-funded organizations who are all signatories.

01:10:50.000 We're implementers, signatories to the EU's code of practice on disinformation, which if U.S. tech companies don't comply with what the EU, a foreign body, calls disinformation, the penalties for that are losing 6% of U.S. social media companies' global annual revenue or get kicked out of the entire EU market, which is 550 million people.

01:11:11.000 So, you know, we go through this, you know, in this here, but if you, so not only are they the signatories to it, Who basically helped craft this thing and put the U.S. government stamp on this.

01:11:25.000 But you'll see they're also the implementers.

01:11:28.000 They're the ones who are helping define disinformation in the EU that targets U.S. social media companies and U.S. news websites.

01:11:35.000 So go to the fourth one.

01:11:36.000 Go to the fourth thing right here.

01:11:38.000 Now this, my foundation just reported as well.

01:11:41.000 We got access to a White House interagency working group for Information integrity.

01:11:50.000 This is one of these censorship weasel phrases, weasel words.

01:11:54.000 Information integrity is what you just saw in that USAID document about redirecting ad revenue from high quality news outlets to low quality news outlets.

01:12:03.000 They make that determination by determining high integrity news and low integrity news.

01:12:07.000 So basically, if they like you, they call you high integrity.

01:12:10.000 If they don't like you, or you're publishing a scandal, or you say, hey, the COVID vaccines might have some problems with them.

01:12:15.000 Hey, there might be some issues with, you know, What happened in the 2020 election?

01:12:20.000 Hey, you know, what's happening with our Ukraine aid?

01:12:23.000 Law information integrity.

01:12:24.000 So this phrase, information integrity, is one of these evolving sets of weasel phrases in order to do internet censorship while making it look like it's just an intervention to help you.

01:12:35.000 We're making the information integrity ecosystem, you know, better so that we have a healthier information environment.

01:12:42.000 Well, this is directly from the, this was centrally coordinated from the White House.

01:12:46.000 This working group has 26 U.S. government agencies and programs participating in it.

01:12:52.000 They're partnered with 14 outside universities, as well as a whole row of private sector firms.

01:12:59.000 USAID is one of those, by the way.

01:13:01.000 USAID is a contributor to this in the Biden administration.

01:13:03.000 This started in December 2021, really got the wheels turning in December 2022. But this is from the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy itself, where it's someone from White House.

01:13:15.000 The other co-chairs are from ODNI, the Director of National Intelligence, the job that Tulsi Gabbard is currently campaigning for.

01:13:25.000 DARPA, the Pentagon's brain, as well as the National Science Foundation, which is the civilian arm that funds all the censorship work.

01:13:32.000 But here you have, from the Joe Biden White House itself, engagement with international partners.

01:13:39.000 This is three years ago.

01:13:43.000 Before this thing even really kicked in the way that it now is.

01:13:49.000 Engaging with our international partners outside the United States on our censorship efforts.

01:13:55.000 Assessing, establishing a partnership with the European Union.

01:13:59.000 To provide U.S. researchers.

01:14:01.000 Now, that's their cover word.

01:14:02.000 That's the big lie word of all of this.

01:14:04.000 It's operations.

01:14:05.000 But they call them researchers to make it look passive rather than active.

01:14:09.000 And I can go through a million examples of that to show how deep that lie goes.

01:14:12.000 With access to social media data accessible under the 2022 EU Code of Practice on Disinformation.

01:14:19.000 Every single one of these researchers is connected to the blob, whether directly or indirectly.

01:14:24.000 They're either part of organizations that are sponsored by USAID, the State Department, the Defense Department.

01:14:29.000 Whether transatlantic networks in the UK, like the UK Foreign Office, or they're partnered with one who is.

01:14:37.000 Every single one of these.

01:14:38.000 They don't just like researchers.

01:14:40.000 They've got to be accredited.

01:14:42.000 They've got to be credentialed.

01:14:43.000 They've got to be vetted.

01:14:44.000 In fact, a lot of these internal documents talk about how only basically the trusted inside web should be able to get access to this.

01:14:51.000 But what they're saying is the US government can't pry that out of Facebook's hands.

01:14:55.000 We have a First Amendment.

01:14:56.000 We can't...

01:14:57.000 Make them subject to a code of practice on disinformation.

01:15:00.000 There is no legislative bill that will pass Congress that will force Facebook to give over the private messages and all the internal algorithm and spread of information to a random U.S. university like, you know...

01:15:21.000 Pick your poison.

01:15:22.000 The University of Washington or the University of Stanford to a random university that everything you thought was safe and secure on the platform is now being given to a private university because it was crowbarred out of the platform's arms by the government.

01:15:40.000 This is the sort of thing the NSA does.

01:15:42.000 When the NSA has secret warrants forcing Facebook to compel private information about the platform for the FBI when they're doing an investigation or the NSA when they're doing a national security one.

01:15:57.000 This is doing it for private actors.

01:16:00.000 And they're using foreign governments to crowbar U.S. companies because we, in their eyes, are unfortunately bound by the First Amendment.

01:16:10.000 there's a lot more there but I can pause Jesus Christ It's so amazing how...

01:16:17.000 Thorough it is.

01:16:18.000 Like the people that want to think the government is completely inept and that conspiracies aren't likely because people are not motivated and not very good at their jobs.

01:16:27.000 Like the people – same people that want to say the government is terrible.

01:16:31.000 It's filled with bloat.

01:16:32.000 They don't know what to do.

01:16:33.000 They're not capable of pulling off something to this – with this depth.

01:16:39.000 So when you see it, when you actually see it laid out and the mechanism.

01:16:43.000 In which it was done through NGOs and through these other non-government organizations, it's kind of astonishing.

01:16:49.000 It's kind of impressive.

01:16:51.000 Oh, it is.

01:16:51.000 And you see how it all synchronizes, just like Wisner's Wurlitzer did from 1948 through the 1970s, when formerly it was supposed to have stopped.

01:17:03.000 That's why I say, when it's too dirty for the CIA, you give it to USAID. The CIA used to do this work under covert action.

01:17:12.000 But USAID has a couple of cute tricks that make it the central warehouse for all of this.

01:17:18.000 And this is why when we started this conversation, I was saying, you know, you ain't seen nothing yet.

01:17:23.000 This thing is going to get so deep and it's going to connect to so many institutions that everybody thought, you know.

01:17:30.000 Like in the Truman Show, they thought it was their best friend.

01:17:32.000 They thought this thing was totally independent and these were authentic conversations you're having with the cashier and it turns out, oops, okay, actually you're a part of this USAID-sponsored network or the state or DOD or Intel-sponsored network because this is fundamentally covert action that's being done.

01:17:48.000 And when the CIA, the CIA is subject to restrictions on the kind of covert activity it can do.

01:17:55.000 Every covert action the CIA does, which is our organ for organized political warfare, George Kennan himself as well as William Casey and Colby and everyone – the express purpose of it was to carry out the subversive side of the political struggle so George Kennan himself as well as William Casey and Colby and everyone – the express purpose of it was to carry out the subversive side of the political struggle so that we'd

01:18:25.000 authentic network within the community.

01:18:27.000 But where I'm going with this is USAID has most of the worst scandals of U.S. statecraft and covert action in the past two decades have actually been from USAID rather than CI. And there's a reason for this.

01:18:49.000 So after the Big scandals against the Democrats and liberals and anti-war groups in the 60s and 70s.

01:18:57.000 Reforms were put in place.

01:18:59.000 And some of this goes back to the 40s itself.

01:19:02.000 But every covert action the CIA does has to be authorized by the president in what's called a presidential finding to take that covert action.

01:19:11.000 So if the CIA senior leadership were just a rogue cell that's not even at the top of leadership, but just a...

01:19:20.000 A rogue desk, a rogue portfolio, a rogue network wants to run a covert action in a region, but they don't think the president will approve?

01:19:28.000 Or the president doesn't want to formally sign off on it in case it goes wrong?

01:19:33.000 They can walk right over to USAID who can do the exact same thing the CIA does, except they can call it discrete democracy promotion because it's not technically an intelligence agency.

01:19:45.000 So it's not technically covert action.

01:19:47.000 So it doesn't require executive branch approval or foreknowledge.

01:19:52.000 And they've gotten in trouble in these cases in some pretty incredible ways.

01:19:57.000 Can I show that?

01:19:58.000 Yeah, please.

01:19:58.000 So let's start with even the whitewashed version.

01:20:02.000 Go to the Wikipedia of Zunzenio.

01:20:05.000 Z-U-N-Z-E-N-E-O. Just on the Wikipedia.

01:20:09.000 And then we can go deeper on this if you want.

01:20:12.000 This was a scandal during the Obama-USAid era.

01:20:19.000 Now, we were running a number of rogue USAid operations in Cuba at the time.

01:20:23.000 By the way, I have to say for the record, I'm no fan of the Cuban government.

01:20:28.000 And I'm not even weighing in on whether it's the right or wrong thing to do in terms of regime change there or liberating people there from...

01:20:40.000 I'm simply showing the American people where your tax dollars are going and how these things are structured in order to systematically fool you and to fool Congress and to fool the White House.

01:20:52.000 So, for example, so this is...

01:20:55.000 I'll show a couple other things in a second here.

01:20:57.000 So, this is Zunzanio.

01:20:59.000 Just scroll for a second.

01:21:00.000 We'll start with this, right?

01:21:01.000 So, it was an online social media.

01:21:03.000 Just scroll up one second.

01:21:04.000 We'll start at the top here.

01:21:05.000 It was an online social networking microblogging service created by USAID and marketed to Cuban users.

01:21:11.000 This was a Twitter knockoff.

01:21:13.000 See, the background of this is...

01:21:16.000 2009, 2014, that period, the State Department and USAID were gangbusters gung-ho on the promise of Arab Spring-style social media revolutions to topple other governments.

01:21:29.000 The Arab Spring was a Facebook revolution and a Twitter revolution.

01:21:32.000 USAID pumped $1.2 billion in, you know, and we sponsored these activist groups and these civil society organizations to learn how to use Facebook, learn how to use Twitter, learn how to use...

01:21:44.000 Learn how to coordinate street protests so that everyone knows where to go, what street to show up on, what kind of slogans to use in order to create the pro-democracy predicate for it.

01:21:58.000 But the problem was, at the time, Cuba did not allow U.S. social media in.

01:22:01.000 So they said, hmm, so they're not allowing Twitter in.

01:22:06.000 How can we get a Twitter there, but without calling it Twitter, without making it look like it's coming from the U.S.? So what they did is they took the exact same thing as Twitter.

01:22:16.000 Same user interface, same like and retweet button.

01:22:19.000 Zunzunio is the Cuban slang word for hummingbird.

01:22:23.000 So it means it's bird.

01:22:25.000 It was the Twitter bird.

01:22:26.000 The whole thing.

01:22:28.000 But the whole trick about it was you have to make it look like it's coming from the Cubans if you're going to do this operation.

01:22:35.000 So what you'll see is...

01:22:38.000 It began running.

01:22:40.000 So this is 2010. This is right during the Arab Spring.

01:22:43.000 And what you'll see is they took funds, millions of dollars of funds that were concealed as humanitarian funds designated for Pakistan.

01:22:53.000 Now, I don't know if Joe or the audience, if you've looked at a map lately, but Pakistan is not exactly the next door neighbor of Cuba.

01:23:01.000 Right.

01:23:02.000 And this is the Wikipedia whitewashing, and we can get into the deeper layers of this, but contractors funded by USAID, I should note the main contractor was Creative Associates International, who's a frequent one.

01:23:13.000 It's CAI, not CIA, I promise.

01:23:16.000 So they concealed in the budget from Senate, from Congress, from the White House National Security Council, they said that these were humanitarian funds for Pakistan.

01:23:29.000 And then they ran that to their contractor.

01:23:34.000 to, quote, set up a Byzantine system of front companies using Cayman Islands bank accounts and recruiting unsuspecting business executives who would not be told of the company's ties to the U.S. government, according to the AP. Private companies like Creative Associates International designed the network.

01:23:50.000 The idea arose after they were given 500,000 stolen Cuban cell phones that were available on the black market.

01:23:58.000 And then you'll see if you scroll down is Okay, the network dubbed the Cuban Twitter reached about 60,000 Cuban subscribers.

01:24:07.000 The initiative appears to also have had a surveillance dimension, allowing a, quote, vast database of Cuban Zunzanillo subscribers, including gender, age, and receptiveness in political tendencies, to be built, with the Associated Press noting such data could be used in the future for political purposes.

01:24:21.000 By the way, these are all quotes from the internal documents, and we can go through that.

01:24:25.000 The data would then be used for micro-targeting efforts towards anti- and pro-government users in Cuba.

01:24:30.000 The developers aimed to, at first, use non-controversial content, such as sports and music and hurricanes.

01:24:36.000 They used hurricane updates in the internal things.

01:24:40.000 Basically, a humanitarian front that if you sign up to this app, you'll know about natural disasters in the area.

01:24:46.000 Meanwhile, what was the plan the whole time?

01:24:48.000 Once they built up enough subscribers, they would begin to introduce political messages through social bots and encourage dissent in this astroturfing.

01:24:57.000 There's a great Guardian write-up on this.

01:24:58.000 If you go to Guardian Zunzineo, so you can see how crazy.

01:25:02.000 Just type in Zunzineo Smart Mob.

01:25:06.000 Guardian.

01:25:07.000 You'll see the internal files explicitly said, we're going to lure them in with music, sports, and hurricane updates.

01:25:14.000 You have to join Twitter in Cuba if you want to be relevant in the culture and see what's trending in sports and music.

01:25:22.000 If you want to be safe in your homes, if you want to know where hurricanes are going.

01:25:27.000 Twitter, Cuban Twitter, is the fastest place to get this. 0.99

01:25:31.000 It's humanitarian work for, you know, we're saving lives by doing this.

01:25:36.000 But the whole point is once they hit a critical mass, they would create rental riots.

01:25:41.000 And they would use this the same way they used it in Egypt and Tunisia to topple those governments under the Obama administration.

01:25:47.000 They would organize smart mobs, rental riots.

01:25:49.000 And if...

01:25:51.000 And if you scroll down, there's some, you know, this is a fantastic article.

01:25:55.000 Highly recommend.

01:25:57.000 There's a lot more there.

01:25:57.000 But, okay, stop right there.

01:25:59.000 Scroll up a little bit.

01:26:00.000 Scroll up a little bit.

01:26:01.000 Okay.

01:26:01.000 Documents show the U.S. government plan to build a subscriber base through non-controversial news content.

01:26:06.000 News messages on soccer, music, and hurricane updates.

01:26:09.000 This is in The Guardian.

01:26:11.000 Later, when the network reached a critical mass, perhaps hundreds of thousands, operators would introduce political content aimed at inspiring Cubans to organize, quote, smart mobs.

01:26:20.000 Mass gatherings called at a moment's notice that might trigger a Cuban spring, or as one USAID document put it, quote, renegotiate the balance of power between state and society.

01:26:31.000 And, you know, so one more thing, if you want to look up on this, you see how they conceal it.

01:26:38.000 If you just type in USAID, Zunzanillo, and discrete, or discrete action, and you'll see how USAID, when this scandal popped off, everyone said, what the?

01:26:49.000 Hell, how did this happen?

01:26:51.000 This is classic CIA work.

01:26:53.000 You're using Cayman Islands bank accounts.

01:26:56.000 You're earmarking it for Pakistani aid.

01:26:59.000 This has clear implications for U.S. statecraft if this gets busted.

01:27:03.000 This is why we task the CIA to do this.

01:27:06.000 Plausible deniability.

01:27:08.000 If something has diplomatic blowback and we don't want U.S. fingerprints on it, we need a formal intelligence agency because there's diplomatic blowback if U.S. fingerprints are revealed.

01:27:17.000 So, yeah, just discrete, yeah, like discrete, let's see, if you scroll down, that third one might do, but if you scroll down, if you put discrete action, maybe put discrete action, or discrete covert and action.

01:27:41.000 I believe there's a HuffPo one on this.

01:27:44.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:27:45.000 When is covert action not covert?

01:27:47.000 When it's discreet.

01:27:49.000 U.S. AIDS, so basically, when this, and if you scroll down to the bottom of this, you'll see, if you just control F for the word Senate, you'll see last week, Elon Musk held an X space directly with Senator Joni Ernst, who has been on this crusade to reform U.S. aid accesses.

01:28:06.000 And there was a really scandalous moment there where Senator Ernst revealed that she was actually threatened by U.S. aid when she tried to get insight into what they were actually doing.

01:28:18.000 Well, if you actually scroll down, if you just do the next one, basically what USAID said is, well, it's discrete democracy promotion.

01:28:24.000 So it's, you know, we don't need a presidential finding for it.

01:28:29.000 Okay.

01:28:30.000 Maybe this is not the other.

01:28:31.000 But basically, if you control it for the word staff, that might help it too.

01:28:35.000 But everyone can look this up independently.

01:28:38.000 All this stuff.

01:28:39.000 Okay.

01:28:39.000 Is that the only?

01:28:40.000 Okay.

01:28:41.000 Maybe it's a different article.

01:28:42.000 But basically, Senate staffers and everyone, Go on YouTube.

01:28:45.000 There was a formal hearing on this for oversight of what happened.

01:28:48.000 And what the staffers said is, this is the staffers on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which is supposed to be the thing that reigns in, that gives the American people oversight and accountability for USAID gone rogue.

01:29:00.000 And what the Senate staffers overseeing USAID said is, we had no visibility on this entire operation the entire time because USAID told us if they had to tell us what we were doing, people could die.

01:29:14.000 This is classic CIA stuff, but the Senate was blocked.

01:29:18.000 And I should note, again, when it's too dirty for the CIA, you give it to USAID. This is why these drug operations and these terrorist operations run primarily through USAID rather than directly at the CIA. The Inspector General, just two weeks ago, put out a report.

01:29:33.000 This is the first time this has been publicly reported.

01:29:35.000 There's been an Inspector General at USAID practically from the day it was born.

01:29:38.000 It's supposed to be...

01:29:39.000 This is what Joni Ernst was complaining about, Senator Joni Ernst was complaining about, which was that how can they get away with this?

01:29:46.000 And it's because of the inspector general who's supposed to hold the agency to account from the inside, but it's an independent agency, so there's limited oversight from the outside.

01:29:53.000 If you have a rogue inspector general, they keep the whole op in-house.

01:29:57.000 Don't need to tell the executive branch, don't need to tell the Senate or Congress.

01:30:00.000 Run it just like an Ali North, Iran-Contra-style, self-sustained, stand-alone, off-the-shelf private enterprise to run covert action on taxpayer dime. 0.90

01:30:09.000 But not have it go through the formal approval channels.

01:30:13.000 Well, so basically, what they were doing here, what the OIG report, the Inspector General report, just published, and the best article on this with the link to it is John Solomon's Just the News, published this, a write-up on it, as well as the source document from the OIG's office.

01:30:33.000 We're just now learning this two weeks ago.

01:30:36.000 Despite them doing this activity for 30 years, it turns out there's a get out of sponsoring terrorism free card at USAID, which is that USAID cannot directly provide funding to terrorist groups, but their contractors are not required.

01:30:56.000 Under the grant agreements to go through those OFAC style, those counterterrorism financing.

01:31:01.000 If a bank did it, you would go directly to jail.

01:31:04.000 Do not pass go.

01:31:07.000 Do not have liberty again for the next 20 years of your life.

01:31:10.000 But if USAID does it, it's completely legal right now.

01:31:14.000 And so this is how you have USAID giving.

01:31:17.000 Last week, $122 million to ISIS, we found.

01:31:20.000 They fund all the terrorist groups in Pakistan. 0.99

01:31:23.000 They fund the terrorist groups in the Sahel in Africa.

01:31:27.000 And for what purpose?

01:31:30.000 Paramilitary terrorist groups are extremely useful to U.S. statecraft for DOD special operations work as well as for political destabilization work.

01:31:42.000 I'll give you a great example.

01:31:43.000 We'll stay in Pakistan. 1.00

01:31:47.000 Osama bin Laden.

01:31:49.000 A peaceful...

01:31:51.000 What was it?

01:31:53.000 A warrior on the road to peace.

01:31:55.000 Ever remember the puff pieces about Osama bin Laden before...

01:31:58.000 The Mujahideen. 0.92

01:32:00.000 The Mujahideen. 0.92

01:32:02.000 Here's a great clip.

01:32:03.000 Can you find the clip of Zbigniew Brzezinski?

01:32:06.000 I believe this is around 1789. Airdropping out of a helicopter.

01:32:11.000 1989?

01:32:12.000 No, 79, I believe.

01:32:14.000 Oh, 1979. Yeah.

01:32:16.000 If you type in Zbigniew Brzezinski, that's going to be a wallop one to spell live, but if you just do Zbigniew Brzezinski, you can go to YouTube and type in Mujahideen, and you'll watch him airdrop out of the helicopter and make the exact same speech that John McCain made to the Azov Battalion,

01:32:39.000 The extremist paramilitary faction of Ukraine that was banned from getting federal funding in 2014 when the Democrats said they're all Nazis, but now they're all sponsored and get standing ovations in the halls of Congress because now they are geopolitically useful to capacity build. but now they're all sponsored and get standing ovations in So here you go.

01:32:58.000 So here you go.

01:32:59.000 U.S. National Security Advisor Brzezinski flew to Pakistan to set about rallying resistance.

01:33:07.000 He wanted to arm the Mujahideen without revealing America's role.

01:33:11.000 On the Afghan border near the Khyber Pass, he urged the soldiers to come.

01:33:16.000 Can you pause for a sec?

01:33:20.000 Notice how he said he wanted to arm the Mujahideen without revealing America's role.

01:33:25.000 Okay?

01:33:26.000 The whole point was to pump up this, you know, fundamentalist, extremist, terrorist group.

01:33:35.000 With the funding and support they need, but without revealing America's role.

01:33:39.000 Hello, USAID. That's the function today, but keep on.

01:33:44.000 ...of their deep belief in God, and we are confident that their struggle will succeed.

01:33:54.000 That land over there is yours.

01:33:58.000 You'll go back to it one day, because your fight will prevail.

01:34:02.000 And you'll have your homes and your mosques back again, because your cause is right, and God is on your side. 0.94

01:34:11.000 That land is yours.

01:34:13.000 Go out there and take it.

01:34:14.000 We'll give you the money.

01:34:16.000 Now, Jamie, if you can pull up one thing, and I'm going to just talk a little bit more about this case while you're pulling this up.

01:34:21.000 You can find this, I believe, on my X feed.

01:34:24.000 I've posted this clip, but you could also find it searching either X or YouTube, of John McCain.

01:34:30.000 And I believe he was with Lindsey Graham making that exact same speech using the same language in, I believe it was 2016 or 24, I believe it was 2016, around then, to the Azov Battalion folks in Ukraine and to the paramilitaries.

01:34:46.000 It's almost word for word.

01:34:51.000 But let me stick on the Mujahideen thing for a second, because this gets back to this fundamental structuring.

01:34:57.000 Why USAID is allowed to, is tasked with this, there's a bigger budget than the CIA USAID does.

01:35:02.000 It capacity builds the assets that CIA liaises with.

01:35:06.000 But if the assets aren't there, CIA has no one to tell what to do.

01:35:09.000 None of their agents on the ground or case officers can build an action plan unless there are assets on the ground that have money, that have training, that have food, that have shelter, and USAID steps in to build, to put the chess pieces on the board that That the CIA can play with.

01:35:30.000 Interestingly, I should note that the CIA gets a copy of every grant that the National Endowment for Democracy makes.

01:35:36.000 This was published in the New York Times in a piece called Missionaries for Global Pluralism about USAID's top operational arm, NED. But the point I'm getting at here is why were we funding terrorists in the 1970s and 80s?

01:35:53.000 Well, according to Our National Security Advisor is a big new Brzezinski, the grand chessboard, you know, this celebrated apex predator of American statecraft.

01:36:06.000 You know, I think he had a quote that was something like, well, you know, what is arming a few, you know, Islamic fundamentalists matter when weighed against the history of America winning the Cold War?

01:36:17.000 You know, that this fundamentally destabilized and bogged the Soviet Union down.

01:36:22.000 This was extremely effective.

01:36:24.000 But also, how do we fund the Mujahideen?

01:36:26.000 Well, the Mujahideen is in Afghanistan.

01:36:29.000 They were before they became Al-Qaeda and ISIS. What asset does Afghanistan have to play with in order to fund its war network, its paramilitary network?

01:36:42.000 Well, it's the drug network.

01:36:42.000 They happen to sit on the, you know...

01:36:45.000 Basically, the poppy fields that, when exploited, comprise 95% of the world's heroin, if you export that.

01:36:52.000 And so the CIA-backed, State Department, USAID-backed, and we can go through receipts of USAID doing the same, you know, drugs for cash for guns work in the 1960s, practically from the day it was born.

01:37:08.000 What they were doing is they were taking those poppy harvests, and then they were depositing them in CIA proprietary banks like BCCI, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International. 0.81

01:37:18.000 Everyone can look this up, or if you want to plug in CIA, BCCI, and look at all the mainstream media reporting on this, it was a major, major, major scandal.

01:37:27.000 It had become one of the world's largest banks, and it was basically a CIA front, and it was a Pakistani frontman for this, and it was... 0.59

01:37:36.000 Converting, effectively washing the proceeds of these drugs so that the Mujahideen could buy arms while the Pakistani militants were being funded and trained in Pakistan, and then they'd go to Afghanistan and conduct military operations against the Russians, who are stated.

01:38:02.000 Cold War enemy.

01:38:03.000 The same thing's happening today, though.

01:38:05.000 If you go on my X feed right now, I'm going to show you something related to this and how this still goes on today.

01:38:10.000 USAID has been busted multiple times for actually cultivating the poppy and heroin production in Afghanistan.

01:38:19.000 Exactly in Afghanistan.

01:38:20.000 This was actually the inspector.

01:38:22.000 There was a...

01:38:24.000 It was one of the adjacent units.

01:38:26.000 I don't think it was directly overseeing USAID, but they published a whole report on this, that basically USAID was keeping the poppy production alive by doing what was said to be irrigation and agricultural sustainability, but targeting it in the heroin network.

01:38:47.000 And by the way, remember the Taliban banned poppy production.

01:38:53.000 And it was after that ban that Afghanistan became the source of 95% of the world's heroin. 0.61

01:38:59.000 So USAID was growing those crops.

01:39:01.000 Now, okay, you can argue, well, hey, maybe it was an accident.

01:39:04.000 Maybe they went rogue.

01:39:05.000 I want to show you something now from an adjacent USAID network group, which is funded 100% by the U.S. government, created by an act of Congress.

01:39:15.000 If you go to my X account right now and you type in...

01:39:18.000 U.S. Institute for Peace, or you just put in Institute Peace, you'll see this.

01:39:28.000 This organization gets $56 million a year from U.S. taxpayers.

01:39:33.000 Its office is right next to the U.S. State Department.

01:39:37.000 I literally walk by it.

01:39:40.000 So it's funded by the government.

01:39:43.000 It's accountable to the government.

01:39:46.000 Accountable to the House and Senate, foreign affairs, foreign relations.

01:39:51.000 It gets all of its money as a pass-through from the U.S. State Department.

01:39:55.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:39:56.000 Scroll down.

01:39:57.000 That one right there.

01:39:58.000 Right there.

01:39:58.000 Taliban's successful opium ban.

01:40:00.000 So this is 100% top to bottom, a direct organ of the U.S. government.

01:40:07.000 Okay.

01:40:08.000 Click that.

01:40:09.000 Click that.

01:40:10.000 There you go.

01:40:11.000 Okay.

01:40:12.000 The Taliban's successful opium ban is bad for Afghans and the world.

01:40:17.000 The ban is not a counter-narcotics victory and will have negative economic and humanitarian consequences potentially leading to a refugee crisis.

01:40:26.000 How could they say it's not a counter-narcotics victory?

01:40:29.000 Look and look at the date.

01:40:31.000 This ain't ancient history.

01:40:33.000 This is less than two years ago.

01:40:35.000 That's crazy.

01:40:35.000 This is the State Department saying, yeah, listen.

01:40:40.000 95% of the world's heroin flows from here.

01:40:44.000 Keep the heroin flowing.

01:40:45.000 It would be an economic disaster.

01:40:49.000 What paramilitary networks?

01:40:52.000 You hear about all these terrorist networks?

01:40:56.000 Think about what just happened in Syria with ISIS. Actually, before I go to that, let's get back to ISIS and the difference between the ISIS foreign policy for the Obama-Biden world and Trump.

01:41:08.000 I'm going to connect this.

01:41:09.000 Wait, can you pull that back up, Jamie, for a second?

01:41:11.000 I just want everyone to see it.

01:41:12.000 Don't look away.

01:41:13.000 Stare straight into the sun.

01:41:14.000 Go to the next receipt here.

01:41:17.000 There you go.

01:41:19.000 2024 budget and brief.

01:41:21.000 U.S. Institute of Peace is seeking $56 million from U.S. taxpayers to promote global peace and security, don't you know, by keeping the 95% of the world's heroin flowing in accordance with its congressional mandate.

01:41:36.000 And then, you know, and then I think I have the next screenshot is just showing.

01:41:40.000 Do they give any examples of how it would promote peace to keep the opium flowing?

01:41:47.000 Because the way they're saying it, it's like this Orwellian speak.

01:41:51.000 Well, yeah, you always have to invert it, right?

01:41:52.000 When they say peace, it's war, right?

01:41:55.000 So this is war.

01:41:56.000 For example, U.S. Institute of Peace was doing the same thing with the Albanian drug networks that formed a paramilitary fighting squad against the Yugoslavian government as we were overthrowing Slobodan Milosevic.

01:42:08.000 I mean, this stuff goes way back.

01:42:09.000 I mean, this was created in 1984. Somewhat thematic, ironic, you know, by Congress.

01:42:16.000 And again, this was a Ronald Reagan creation.

01:42:18.000 And why I come back to, you know, that thing that just broke the John Bolton.

01:42:24.000 Hand grenade.

01:42:25.000 The holy hand grenade of Antioch from Monty Python.

01:42:31.000 Nothing really gets to the heart of what USAID truly is than the image of John Bolton proudly declaring that he was the head of policy and budget at USAID and his farewell gift from the agency was a golden hand grenade with his name carved on it.

01:42:51.000 But, you know, what he said, you know, in that Piers Morgan interview, and I don't know if we can play it if you want.

01:42:58.000 Yeah, it wants it off your feed.

01:43:00.000 But, you know, what he said is, listen, it also said, proud Reaganot.

01:43:04.000 And this is why I come back to this.

01:43:06.000 We're fighting a number of ghosts from our past here.

01:43:10.000 You know, a lot of Republicans are fine with fighting Woodrow Wilson's ghost.

01:43:14.000 He was the one who, you know, said, make the world safe for democracy and gave us this.

01:43:18.000 Doctrinal blank check to do soft power infiltration work against every plot of dirt and every foreign citizen in every foreign country on planet Earth gives us the blank check to be a global empire. 0.69

01:43:32.000 A lot of people say, okay, we're going to focus on us.

01:43:35.000 Wilson's a bad guy.

01:43:36.000 But you're also fighting the ghost of Ronald Reagan.

01:43:38.000 I should note that USAID is actually in its headquarters in D.C. is in the Ronald Reagan building.

01:43:45.000 USAID and Ronald Reagan played Played the key role in fundamentally creating the restructured blob that we live under after the scandals of the 1970s that the CIA was busted in.

01:44:00.000 Church Committee hearings, heart attack gun, Mockingbird, MKUltra, you know, assassinations, all that stuff.

01:44:09.000 Jimmy Carter got into power, you know, 1976. It carried out the harshest destruction of CIA operations capacity and funding ever in American history.

01:44:20.000 He laid off 30% of the entire CIA operations division in a single day.

01:44:23.000 That was called the Halloween massacre.

01:44:25.000 Crippled their budget. 0.99

01:44:26.000 Then the Iran hostage situation pops off in, you know, 79. The national security state argues this wouldn't have happened unless the CIA had its old powers back.

01:44:37.000 Democrats still hated the CIA at that time because it had been directly interfering in their own domestic politics and trying to thwart factions of them just like they're doing today against the MAGA movement side of the Republican Party.

01:44:50.000 You know, the universal thump has been passed around in that way.

01:44:53.000 But so they couldn't get a legislative bill to do this.

01:44:56.000 So what they did is they they restructured the the intelligence apparatus, the covert action capacities and the way our statecraft is done through USAID and the creation of the National Endowment for Democracy to take the baton from what the CIA used to do.

01:45:13.000 But the whole point of it is in tandem.

01:45:15.000 Now, that's why you have these John Bolton at USAID. This is why you have Liz Cheney at USAID. And this is what we're fighting against as we're reforming this.

01:45:24.000 It's not really a partisan issue as I see it, even though, you know, statistics show there's disproportionate Democrat beneficiaries.

01:45:29.000 But, you know, the real issue is the MAGA movement is fighting the ghost of Ronald Reagan past.

01:45:37.000 The reason Republicans loved USA, John Bolton-types, Liz Cheney-types love it, is because this was our muscle for U.S. Chamber of Commerce multinational companies to pad their profits because ExxonMobil,

01:45:53.000 how many hundreds of billions in the aggregate has ExxonMobil and Chevron benefited from U.S. regime change efforts or U.S. We saw that just, You know, a few years ago, as we just went over with Joe Biden doing the same thing for Burisma.

01:46:13.000 But so the big the big multinational businesses love this and it was sold as trickle down economics.

01:46:21.000 This is the Reaganite sort of Reaganomics and why it's attached to the hip with USAID and why this is something we need to keep in mind as we reform is that the idea was is, look, we do some dirty work abroad.

01:46:32.000 But at the end of the day, that pads profits and revenue for U.S. companies.

01:46:37.000 Those U.S. companies employ U.S. citizens.

01:46:41.000 And they build manufacturing plants in Ohio and in Colorado and New Mexico.

01:46:47.000 And that's what allows you to have 401ks.

01:46:49.000 That's what allows you to have discretionary income.

01:46:51.000 That's what allows you to afford higher education and houses and a retirement plan.

01:46:57.000 The problem was, as globalization...

01:47:00.000 Kept apace through the 90s and 2000s.

01:47:04.000 These same multinational corporations that the Reaganite trickle-down economics use the blob to support the Chamber of Commerce, they don't hire their labor here anymore.

01:47:18.000 They don't have their manufacturing facilities here anymore.

01:47:22.000 We're not the primary export market for this.

01:47:24.000 So you have U.S. State Department and USAID. You know, the thicket of government officials.

01:47:45.000 Equity holders in these corporations, foreign currency speculators, you know, banking on the activity in the region, you know, the banks, financial firms, and political insiders.

01:47:56.000 And so it doesn't actually get down to the people anymore.

01:47:59.000 So you do need to restructure.

01:48:00.000 If you're going to keep using this, in order to qualify, you have to have a certain minimal threshold of reinvestment.

01:48:10.000 In America, which I'm very happy that Trump is doing by trying to bring all this investment.

01:48:14.000 You know, we saw with Japan and other countries, he's trying to get them double, triple their commitments.

01:48:18.000 We need to demand that of our own corporations, if they want to have a meeting with the Secretary of State or the head of the Central Intelligence Agency, like Pepsi did in the 1970s when we overthrew that, if you want to go there.

01:48:31.000 This is all so...

01:48:32.000 It's so deep.

01:48:35.000 That it makes you wonder, is there enough time in four years to unravel this stuff?

01:48:40.000 Oh, no, not four years.

01:48:42.000 This is a 50-year project.

01:48:45.000 50-year project.

01:48:46.000 Oh, yeah.

01:48:50.000 There are many fractal layers to this reform process.

01:48:54.000 And every step of the way, there are going to be layers of resistance.

01:48:57.000 I don't think the people who are, look, we should spike footballs.

01:49:02.000 We should...

01:49:03.000 Pop champagne.

01:49:04.000 We should do a touchdown dance on this.

01:49:06.000 This is the first serious time in American history that the foreign policy establishment has had to be accountable to the people who pay for it.

01:49:16.000 Even the church committee didn't cause the entire shutdown of a federal agency.

01:49:22.000 Didn't lay off...

01:49:23.000 You know, remember I mentioned the Halloween massacre, Jimmy Carter, 30% of the workforce laid off?

01:49:28.000 Yeah.

01:49:28.000 We'll try what just happened with USAID, which employs...

01:49:30.000 A lot more people than even the CIA did at that time.

01:49:35.000 99%.

01:49:36.000 It went from 14,000 down to 290. This is in every way, symbolically, operationally, financially, the hardest blow the blob has ever had to suffer in terms of accountability.

01:49:51.000 And it's only getting way deeper from here.

01:49:55.000 He's only been in office for a month.

01:49:57.000 Yeah.

01:49:58.000 Well, that's why we need to create a legacy and a pipeline of people to carry on these reforms, which is part of my personal struggle here, which is that most people, 99% of people who got involved with the MAGA movement, did it because they care about the domestic.

01:50:17.000 We talked about this.

01:50:19.000 Their school curriculum is woke because the police allow crime in the streets and the infrastructure is crumbling and there's corruption everywhere and no one's held accountable.

01:50:31.000 They don't think about Pakistan.

01:50:33.000 They don't think about Bangladesh.

01:50:35.000 They don't think about Who's on the U.S.-Izerbaijan Chamber of Commerce and, you know, how, if they're living in Louisiana or Houston or, you know, Oklahoma, that actually their jobs at ExxonMobil and Chevron sort of depend on these, you know, this strong-arm diplomacy that we have with Persian Gulf countries.

01:50:57.000 They don't care about the Persian Gulf.

01:50:59.000 They care about local Oklahoma.

01:51:03.000 But they have to now.

01:51:05.000 In order to understand the world they live in, in order to understand what's driving the world around them, in order to understand the actual true face of the characters they thought they've known, they're going to have to become international-minded.

01:51:19.000 They're going to have to become versed in the interplay between the domestic and the international.

01:51:25.000 One of the problems when I started out this journey in 2016 is there was no MAGA foreign policy intelligentsia.

01:51:32.000 I could make all of these...

01:51:34.000 You know, I was traveling the country, slideshow presentation after slideshow presentation, talking to every human I could.

01:51:42.000 Even DC insiders in MAGA, you'd show them all of this, and they didn't have a framework for understanding it.

01:51:51.000 They could see that the information was true.

01:51:57.000 They could see that this is, you know.

01:51:59.000 Formal government documents.

01:52:01.000 These are formal grant outlays to real organizations run by real people with real names and addresses.

01:52:10.000 You'd have to explain, for example, that the Pentagon does an awful lot more than kinetic military activity.

01:52:23.000 For example, this is what's coming next.

01:52:26.000 President Trump tasked Elon Musk was sick and the doge dogs on the Pentagon. 0.98

01:52:34.000 And depending on how you measure it, the size of waste, fraud, and abuse of the Pentagon ranges from a couple hundred billion.

01:52:43.000 They are the biggest federal agency in all of this.

01:52:45.000 They have a $900 billion budget compared to only $44 billion at USAID. And even less at CIA. But, you know, Yahoo Finance published this a couple years ago, a $35 trillion black hole.

01:52:59.000 If you want to pull up that receipt on screen, just so I don't look like I'm saying this directly myself, but just type in $35 trillion Pentagon black hole.

01:53:08.000 That's larger than the entire national debt, just the amount of...

01:53:14.000 Just a black hole in the size of the accounting budget of the Pentagon over the years from its continual failing.

01:53:22.000 This is on Yahoo Finance.

01:53:24.000 And this is, what, 2020, I think?

01:53:27.000 You have...

01:53:29.000 When America was born in 1789 in the first meeting of Congress, there were only three agencies that were created in the beginning of time, shall we say.

01:53:38.000 The first act of Congress was to create the Department of State, the Department of Treasury, And the Department of War.

01:53:45.000 And the Defense Department became the Department of War in 19...

01:53:50.000 The Department of War became the Department of Defense in 1948. What people...

01:53:56.000 Even now, they're seeing these USAID scandals with funding to the Democrats or funding to some of these blob internationalist Republicans or funding these media institutions.

01:54:08.000 You ain't seen nothing yet when you get to the Pentagon stuff because USAID... It was created, effectively, in part to assist Pentagon activity under humanitarian front.

01:54:21.000 And I talk about this a lot, but I feel the point is underappreciated, so this is sort of a good moment to go over it.

01:54:26.000 Am I talking too much, by the way?

01:54:27.000 No, perfect.

01:54:28.000 Okay.

01:54:30.000 So everyone, you know, they say, you know, JFK is a martyred figure.

01:54:36.000 And in the news, again, this week, obviously, with, you know, the new trove of documents and whatnot.

01:54:42.000 Trump's EO around the source of his assassination.

01:54:46.000 But the fact that JFK created USAID by executive order in 1961, and he is known and loved as a martyred figure, regardless of who in the end killed him, has given a sort of public imprimatur on USAID as it used to be called.

01:55:10.000 You know, in order to try to make clear that it was not, you know, an aid organization.

01:55:17.000 But now almost, you know, even that parlance has dropped off as they need to defend it more and more.

01:55:23.000 But so they think, okay, you know, JFK martyred a deeply beloved figure.

01:55:28.000 He created USAID. It was sort of out of the kindness of his heart.

01:55:30.000 It was a charity.

01:55:32.000 This was, it was JFK who fundamentally supercharged America's The American military's small wars capacity.

01:55:42.000 This is the terminology in the U.S. Army War College and Special Forces around, you know, sort of not full-scale conventional wars.

01:55:50.000 They're either small-scale paramilitary skirmishes or insurgency, counterinsurgency.

01:56:00.000 And the problem was JFK was bogged down in Vietnam.

01:56:05.000 Bogged down in Laos.

01:56:07.000 And the problems that we were fighting against were not the kind of things that, you know, you'd have the political predicate after a lot of the disasters of the Korean War in 1950 and the international blowback to having formal DOD boats on the grounds.

01:56:22.000 What he believed was vital and necessary to capacity build and supercharge was a...

01:56:31.000 A paramilitary covert capacity for DOD in the warfighting space that the CIA had at that point in the political war space.

01:56:39.000 And this is done through the U.S. Special Forces and through some of its sub-branches, which are psychological operations, civil-military affairs.

01:56:52.000 We can stick with that.

01:56:54.000 But basically, civil-military is when in order to achieve the military objective, The thing that needs to be done is actually something of the civil layer.

01:57:04.000 Like, for example, in order to win the war against Russia right now, NATO believes we need to build the single largest military base in all of NATO on the Black Sea coast of Romania that points straight out in a line at Crimea and move this base that's under construction is 100% bigger than the biggest current NATO base in Europe.

01:57:31.000 We're now moving as we speak.

01:57:33.000 There are fighter jets and drones being moved from Germany to Romania as we are building this base that will be the point of source projection against the Black Sea Navy of Russia, against Crimea in order to turn the tide.

01:57:50.000 Well, that's a military operation, right?

01:57:54.000 The NATO military base against the Russian forces in Crimea.

01:58:00.000 But what is actually the most important strategic objective for the military?

01:58:04.000 It's actually not a military one.

01:58:06.000 It's a civil one.

01:58:07.000 See, there's an election going on in Romania right now.

01:58:09.000 You may have heard about this, the canceled election in Romania with the Georgia skew, this right-wing populist figure who has pledged neutrality in the war.

01:58:18.000 He doesn't want to antagonize America, but he doesn't want to kill the Russians.

01:58:23.000 He wants to basically back NATO off, and he doesn't want to allow this military base to beat.

01:58:28.000 Well, that is a civil decision by the elected government of Romania, decided by the hearts and minds of the voters of the Romanian people.

01:58:39.000 But that civil action will either, in NATO's eyes, win the war or lose the war.

01:58:47.000 So the problem is... 0.82

01:58:50.000 It would kind of be something of a diplomatic incident, shall we say, if NATO rolled in and did Slobodan Milosevic-style airstrifes against the Romanian parliament building and rolled into the capital with tanks and troops just because the president was responding to the damn correct will of the people.

01:59:13.000 So you need another mechanism.

01:59:15.000 To influence the civil affairs.

01:59:17.000 Enter civil military.

01:59:19.000 This is where you get U.S. aid in this, as well as U.S. aid for psychological operations.

01:59:23.000 For example, I've been playing this clip for months now and showing this U.S. military document from the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center.

01:59:36.000 I mean, the special forces, the psychological operations and civil military.

01:59:41.000 Training and Recruiting Center at Fort Bragg, the center of our psychological operations.

01:59:46.000 It's called the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Training Center.

01:59:51.000 But USAID does that work.

01:59:57.000 So, for example, I've been showing a military document from the Biden-Mark Milley era published in 2021 about how to plan race riots in Africa in order to stop the construction of a port by a foreign government that would allow their force projection into the Atlantic Ocean.

02:00:14.000 In a sample scenario where the U.S. ambassador tries to get this West African country on the Atlantic coast there to cancel the port construction in partnership with the foreign government, but that government doesn't want to do it.

02:00:28.000 And so they refuse the U.S. ambassador.

02:00:31.000 They refuse the State Department.

02:00:32.000 So this is literally in the planning guide and pitch book for the U.S. special forces.

02:00:37.000 It's available online regularly.

02:00:38.000 Right now everyone can look this up.

02:00:39.000 It's all over my X feed.

02:00:40.000 I've posted a link a million times and all the screenshots.

02:00:43.000 But they show the role of Special Forces.

02:00:46.000 They're pitching this basically to get more grant funding.

02:00:50.000 That we can help in near-peer competition actually with foreign countries by having Special Forces destabilize the country.

02:00:58.000 Inflame racial tensions between the Africans who work in the factories and the business owners of the foreign government in the local regional development cause mass walkouts and strikes.

02:01:11.000 But if you want to pull this on screen, I can show you these two things.

02:01:16.000 If you just go to my X feed and you can type in rent rights or just type in USAID job fairs.

02:01:27.000 Or USAID, you know, job.

02:01:29.000 And you'll see in this scenario, they talk about the interagency coordination between defense, diplomacy, and development.

02:01:38.000 You know, all the roles.

02:01:41.000 Yes, it was USAID job.

02:01:43.000 You can pull it up.

02:01:44.000 And what they propose is that as they are inflaming these racial tensions to cause these riots and boycotts of the local businesses, that USAID would play the role of swooping in.

02:01:57.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:01:57.000 Click those.

02:01:58.000 And I can show you the source documents and everything.

02:02:00.000 It's all over.

02:02:02.000 So IWC, for example, is Information Warfare Center at Fort Bragg.

02:02:06.000 Again, they're in West Africa.

02:02:07.000 Now, this is a sample scenario with a hypothetical African country.

02:02:10.000 And I don't want to belabor this.

02:02:11.000 I'm not trying to cause an international incident by saying this.

02:02:13.000 I'm just trying to get the American people insight into why you are going to find USAID fingerprints all over Pentagon operations.

02:02:21.000 And no one's going to have known about it before because...

02:02:24.000 You park it at USAID. The military doesn't have to tell the president what they're actually doing.

02:02:29.000 This is why, for example, you had the fight over ISIS. We can get to this right after this, but we'll get to how the U.S. military duped Trump through these things, constantly playing shell games with the numbers in Syria, for example.

02:02:44.000 You'll see what the Information Warfare Center did is they saw a sign along the road for this port construction.

02:02:52.000 And they say the plan is we need to buy the ambassador more time because they're going to close on it, and we need to give the ambassador more leverage at the negotiating table.

02:03:02.000 So this is a support operation for the State Department in order to secure an agreement from the African government to shut the port down.

02:03:09.000 But right now, the ambassador doesn't have the smoke, doesn't have the clout, doesn't have the leverage.

02:03:14.000 So the military will come in and provide that leverage.

02:03:18.000 By destabilizing the country, inflaming longstanding friction between the African workers and the foreign corporations, popping off protests and then using their swarm army of internews, USAID, you know, the social media campaign and media articles that are led actually in the background by the Information Warfare Center at Fort Bragg to illuminate the controversy to a global audience, right? 0.63

02:03:42.000 This caused international financial pressure and sanctions on them.

02:03:44.000 But if you go to the next slide.

02:03:47.000 And here we go, USAID. So this is, again, U.S. military document, 2021, Biden administration.

02:03:56.000 To make sure this thing really pops off, USAID is going to swoop in, along with other NGOs, to establish job fairs near the protest areas, so that when these racially inflamed African workers... 0.80

02:04:12.000 They want to take to the streets.

02:04:14.000 They don't need to worry about losing their careers at those companies they just went on strike at, because they're going to be on U.S. taxpayer dime, baby.

02:04:23.000 It's going to be U.S. truck drivers, median income, you know, $45,000, $50,000 a year, paying for striking African workers to get no-show jobs as a part of a race riot operation for the U.S. Special Forces to give leverage to the U.S. State Department ambassador in order to stop a random... 0.70

02:04:40.000 Port construction in West Africa.

02:04:42.000 And it says here, within two weeks, the construction company lost 60% of its required labor pool.

02:04:47.000 So it's effective.

02:04:48.000 And this is where, I don't know if you want to take a breather and pivot to something lighter, but this is where it starts to get really, really nasty.

02:04:56.000 Because there are layers to this that I see, but because I'm not an insider, I don't have access to the inside government documents, I don't have subpoena power at Congress, someone has to get an answer on some of these someone has to get an answer on some of these questions.

02:05:18.000 And I was going to talk about the connection of this to, you know, the rental riots.

02:05:26.000 I should say, formally, we don't know that the rental riots, formerly the riots that popped off in this country in 2020, and that I see as one of the main ways that the blob may be able to regain leverage here in the United States in the years ahead. 0.69

02:05:39.000 Right now, they're doing lawfare.

02:05:42.000 They're trying to mend—they're a little bit impotent right now because their coalition is very fractured.

02:05:49.000 Many of the stalwart international Republicans have gone full MAGA, so the bipartisan consensus on this is weaker than it was.

02:05:57.000 And then probably most difficult for them, there's a bit of a civil war happening even within the Democrat Party because of all the bad blood between the Biden camp and the Kamala Harris camp.

02:06:09.000 You need a unified network on the Democrat side to pull this off.

02:06:13.000 And you had Joe Biden.

02:06:14.000 You know, Joe Biden was soft-couped out of office by his own party.

02:06:19.000 And you have half the Democrat party who was in...

02:06:22.000 It was a very contentious, long-drawn-out process.

02:06:26.000 Joe Biden put on a MAGA hat, actually asked one of those union workers, I believe he was, one of those people at that event, for the MAGA hat to put on.

02:06:34.000 And that was quite a...

02:06:37.000 How about Jill Biden wearing a red dress when she went to vote? 1.00

02:06:41.000 Yeah, yeah, good.

02:06:42.000 It's a big deal.

02:06:43.000 And when Joe Biden walked out at that White House press conference to announce that Donald Trump had won the election the day before, people go back and watch that.

02:06:54.000 I have never seen Joe Biden smile harder in my life.

02:06:57.000 When he had Trump in the White House and smiling and laughing, he looked like he was having a good old time.

02:07:02.000 Right, right.

02:07:02.000 He was happy.

02:07:03.000 A stark contrast between Obama.

02:07:06.000 Welcoming Trump in 2016. Right, right.

02:07:10.000 And Obama was backing the Kamala, you know, sort of, you know, ouster of Biden.

02:07:15.000 So when they were all united in this bipartisan, you know, blob network and the Democrats were completely cohesive and a full half of the Republican Party was internationalist, you could get this buy-in, for example, it was easy to synchronize the U.S. Chamber of Commerce with.

02:07:37.000 The AFL-CIO with the Union Street muscle.

02:07:41.000 The way, so USAID, you know, just back at this whole USAID Truman show, and I didn't, like, I say this ever, there is no, nothing you can tell me that is not affected by the USAID Truman show.

02:07:56.000 You want to talk about the music industry?

02:07:57.000 I can, I tell you about USAID's complete infiltration of the music industry.

02:08:02.000 How so?

02:08:03.000 Oh my gosh, okay, so.

02:08:05.000 Maybe I can show receipts on screen here for a second.

02:08:11.000 We'll start with an easy one because it's directly connected to what we were just talking about with Zunzineo in Cuba.

02:08:17.000 So if you go to this Max Blumenthal's outlet, it's called Grayzone News.

02:08:21.000 And again, I'm not trying to beat up on our foreign policy establishments.

02:08:25.000 Foreign policy on Cuba are way into that, but this is how the sauce is made, and you're going to see a million examples of this in a second, of this.

02:08:32.000 But go to, just type in on Google, or any search engine, Greyzone News, Cuban Rappers, USAID. And you'll see this, and these are basically sponsored hip-hop artists.

02:08:51.000 To do revolutionary hip-hop, to appeal to the Afro-Cuban community, who the National Endowment for Democracy had identified as being a demographic.

02:09:04.000 See, every time we do these operations, USAID, the NGOs, they'll submit what they call baseline assessment or strategic assessment to the State Department, where they will do a demographic segmentation.

02:09:19.000 Of all the demographics in the country, who's pro-us, who's against us in the region, and then they will micro-target the grants in the capacity building to capacity build the burning ember to turn it into a flame.

02:09:35.000 So, for example, and just so you see this, you can go to the CIA World Factbook right now.

02:09:38.000 This is just a public-facing CIA.gov.

02:09:41.000 You can type in a random country like Burma on just CIA World.

02:09:46.000 World Book Burma, you'll see that we keep meticulous tabs on the racial distribution, the religious distribution, the gender distribution, the heteronormative versus LGBT one.

02:10:01.000 This is why USAID and NED were backing and supporting Pussy Riot in Russia to do these sort of insane, sort of feminist, LGBTQ-style left-wing... 0.95

02:10:16.000 Street riots.

02:10:17.000 This is what they, you know, cause this international incident.

02:10:19.000 You can see all the USAID, NED stuff on them.

02:10:22.000 Pussy Riot is the music industry.

02:10:24.000 And go to YouTube and look at their music videos if you want to see what state-sponsored music looks like.

02:10:30.000 But in the Cuba case, you know, they were, NED had published this document.

02:10:36.000 NED is the operations arm of USAID, and they get a ton of their grants through it, and they're a companion star.

02:10:42.000 Said, okay, all of our previous attempts to overthrow the Cuban government failed.

02:10:45.000 Well, you know, something like 60% of the Cuban population is Afro-Cuban.

02:10:50.000 They're radically underrepresented in the Cuban government.

02:10:52.000 They have their own grievances around policing issues and around representation issues.

02:10:57.000 And they even noted in the document that that demographic, and I'm not saying this, Ned is saying this, in Cuba is disproportionately drawn to drugs.

02:11:07.000 Influenced by rap music and suffers from overwhelming amount of youth unemployment.

02:11:14.000 And so capacity building those desperate networks, capacity building the anti-addiction programs will get you into the drug networks.

02:11:25.000 Doing job fairs and getting these people on U.S. payroll will alleviate their pain points on employment.

02:11:33.000 They're predominantly listening to hip-hop, so we need to work with, I believe the group is the San Isidro, and I'm not beating up on it.

02:11:39.000 You can make an argument that, I'm not weighing in on whether this is good or bad, but the American people have to know this because this gets played on their radio stations in Miami.

02:11:48.000 This gets, you know, art testimonials to this are at, you know, Art Basel in Miami every year.

02:11:56.000 You know, and this...

02:11:58.000 This is the Truman Show around you, but you can read that Grey Zone report, for example, I'll write up on that, on all the USAID funding, all the meetings with the U.S. ambassador and, you know, Western Hemisphere Assistant Secretary folks, you know, how the whole thing was.

02:12:14.000 You can talk about musicians like Dua Lipa.

02:12:17.000 You're familiar with Dua Lipa?

02:12:18.000 I've heard the name.

02:12:20.000 Yeah, you know, Don't Stop Now, you know, she's, you know, a million of these great hits.

02:12:27.000 Fantastic musician.

02:12:28.000 I'm a big fan on the music side.

02:12:31.000 Dua Lipa won the Distinguished Leadership Award, I forget if it was last year or the year before, from the Atlanta Council.

02:12:38.000 The Atlanta Council.

02:12:40.000 That's the same organization that we played on screen during our first conversation where we went over the Atlanta Council holding up I Call Bullshit placards and looking at Trump tweets and training Hundreds of journalists for how to flag and censor him saying tweets like witch hunt or Brexit slogans for cheaper health care.

02:13:05.000 The Atlantic Council, who has seven CIA directors, seven former number one heads of the CIA on its board of directors, that gets direct grant funding from the Pentagon, the State Department, and USAID. The Atlantic Council, who had a formal partnership agreement with Burisma, I should note, signed on January 19th.

02:13:25.000 2017, one day before Trump became the U.S. president.

02:13:29.000 Why the heck would they give Dua Lipa a, you know, distinguished leadership award?

02:13:34.000 Well, you know, she's ethnic Albanian and has activities in Kosovo.

02:13:38.000 But I'm not trying to cause an international incident when I say this.

02:13:40.000 But, you know, her messaging around the post-Yugoslavia breakup Balkan states, and a lot of the geopolitics around Serbia right now, the U.S. State Department has been pursuing, as well as U.S. aid, and to whatever extent you may or may not be there, you know, the civil military arm of the U.S. military.

02:14:09.000 I believe, and I'm not privy to any inside information, this is my reading of the tea leaves that I've been laying out before everyone, is...

02:14:19.000 Is not very happy with the government of Serbia, and they want that Serbian government, people in the Serbian government arrested, indicted, and put through a process that they call transitional justice.

02:14:32.000 And transitional justice is the idea that when you transition a country, when you overthrow its government, or you pump up your favorite political party to win the election, it transitions from autocracy to democracy, or it transitions from We have a whole field of scholarship at the State Department,

02:15:00.000 at USAID, and that is carried out in covert ways through civil military, DOD, and at CIA called Transitional Justice, which is weaponizing the Justice Department and creating the criminal predicate to eliminate your political adversaries you just narrowly vanquished in a...

02:15:17.000 Nail-biter vote in order to stop them from ever rising to power again. 0.99

02:15:23.000 And I'll show you some great receipts on this so that everyone can see this with their own eyes.

02:15:26.000 But before I do, let me just flesh this out for a second, which is that every regional desk at the State Department or in the USAID portfolio has to compete every year for their budget.

02:15:37.000 They have to fight for their lives because the people who are at the regional desks around Kyrgyzstan and, you know...

02:15:46.000 Georgia, Moldova, Latvia, Lithuania, they're competing in the budget for what's going to Western Hemisphere, what's going to Argentina and Brazil and Colombia, and they're competing against subterranean Africa. 0.69

02:15:57.000 So the cheaper it is to manage the political vassalage of a country, the better.

02:16:01.000 They may have had to ask for a lot more money in the budget, one-off in election year, to run that money through Democracy International or through SEPs or any number of USAID or NED programs.

02:16:13.000 To fund the political party they want to win.

02:16:16.000 But they can't keep that.

02:16:18.000 They were only given that money because it was a specialty.

02:16:20.000 They're not necessarily going to be able to get that the next time around.

02:16:23.000 And they'll be able to spend money on other soft power goals in the region if they don't have to worry about the other party rising again or doing what Trump just did, you know, winning, then losing, then winning again.

02:16:35.000 And so transitional justice is a whole field at state and in the NGO plex to To make it cheap to manage the course of and result of foreign elections by making sure anyone who's a serious challenger to you ends up in jail.

02:16:50.000 And I'm just going to show you something because it's now in the news.

02:16:53.000 Elon Musk this week tweeted out about a horrible situation where someone from the PIS, the Law and Justice Party in Poland, I believe is now facing arrest for clicking the like button on a social media post.

02:17:06.000 Jesus.

02:17:08.000 What was the post?

02:17:10.000 I don't actually know what the post was.

02:17:11.000 Was it one of Kanye's?

02:17:14.000 I played the fifth.

02:17:15.000 I don't know.

02:17:15.000 But the fact is, Poland plays, and I've been saying this forever, and this may be too far afield for the narrow topic of discussion today, but Poland plays an absolutely huge, probably the linchpin role in all of Eastern Europe with everything that's happening with Ukraine.

02:17:32.000 Because the whole play was to kill Russian gas.

02:17:36.000 And then you need an alternative gas supply into Europe to offset that, and there's only two ways to do that.

02:17:41.000 One is Ukraine builds up its own gas infrastructure and exploits its endogenous hydrocarbon supply, which it has a lot of.

02:17:50.000 It's the third largest in Europe, but it's underexploited.

02:17:53.000 Unfortunately, they can't do that right now because Russia reconquered that exact territory in eastern Ukraine that those sit on.

02:17:58.000 The only other way to do that is through exporting.

02:18:03.000 LNG, you know, liquefied natural gas, from North America, you know, from the Permian Basin or whatnot in Houston, freezing it, shipping it, you know, 7,000 miles across the Atlantic up through the Baltic Straits, through these newly built, you know, routing terminals into Poland and the terminals there, and then routing it there into Slovakia and Ukraine and Central Europe and on from there.

02:18:29.000 Doesn't this bring us back to what Mike Johnson said?

02:18:33.000 Biden had signed an executive order that he hadn't read about liquid natural gas.

02:18:38.000 Yeah, well, that's interesting because that has to do also with the economics of it.

02:18:42.000 You know, you don't want too much supply because then the profits of the corporations, you know, they're selling it for less margin as the supply goes up.

02:18:50.000 But yeah, the LNG fight is...

02:18:53.000 The major one in the energy space, but it's much more expensive for LNG. That process, liquefaction, transport, deliquefaction, transport back is way cheaper than just taking it out of the ground and putting it in a pipeline straight to the customer.

02:19:07.000 So the European countries don't want to do this, or at least until they were strong-armed.

02:19:13.000 And what the State Department and NATO have done is they've selectively bred and financed and politically supported All of the European political parties and candidates who have vowed to basically go forward with this plan and put their country through an energy diversification policy and buy this expensive LNG, which has skyrocketed, as you know, the profits of many of these Western exporters.

02:19:36.000 So again, there's an argument.

02:19:37.000 Maybe that's in U.S. interests, if there was that trickle-down.

02:19:41.000 But we'll leave that aside.

02:19:42.000 But the point is, Poland basically has a veto right on this whole plan.

02:19:45.000 Because if the Poland government says, hey, you know what?

02:19:48.000 We don't want to antagonize the Russians.

02:19:50.000 The Russians may actually attack us.

02:19:53.000 This is provocative because this is in tandem with the plan to cut off Gazprom.

02:19:57.000 Also, we don't want to become a political vassal state of the U.S. or the U.K. or NATO. And this is what was starting to happen with the Law and Order, you know, Law and Justice PIS Party in Poland.

02:20:09.000 And so this whole network, the Atlantic Council Network, was backing to the full hilt Donald Tusk, who became the Prime Minister of Poland in, I believe, December 2023. With that context, Jamie, can you pull on screen?

02:20:23.000 I just re-upped these receipts.

02:20:25.000 I've been posting this for months, but this is very...

02:20:28.000 Everyone should see this with their own eyes.

02:20:29.000 Because this gets back to OCCRP and state-sponsored media to prosecute people.

02:20:34.000 This gets back to, you know, the role of the USAID capacity building the networks around prosecutors here in the U.S., the USAID capacity building the prosecutor networks, and we should get to that on Brazil.

02:20:49.000 But let's – can we start here with Poland?

02:20:52.000 We kind of, like, bypassed the whole music industry.

02:20:55.000 Oh, my God.

02:20:55.000 Wait, we've just started on that.

02:20:57.000 Okay, here's an easy one.

02:21:00.000 Look up the U.S. Music Diplomacy Program.

02:21:03.000 So this is, but this is all music overseas or music domestically as well?

02:21:09.000 Well, that's the issue is because there's this interplay.

02:21:11.000 So first of all, getting back to the Dua Lipa Atlantic Council thing.

02:21:14.000 So again, essentially, you know, she's calling out human rights abuses from, you know, these...

02:21:20.000 Balkan governments, you know, with a family pedigree and popularity in Kosovo and other places that are hugely in the geopolitical crosshairs right now.

02:21:30.000 And so, and I'm not saying whether it's good or bad.

02:21:33.000 Again, I'm not even weighing in on, you know, the humanitarian abuses or whatnot.

02:21:37.000 What I'm saying is, it's music as an instrument of statecraft.

02:21:42.000 Dua Lipa, this is the U.S. military, the State Department, U.S. aid, seven CIA directors, the Burisma networks.

02:21:49.000 Because, you know, she's got tens of millions of social media followers, people, you know, who are diehard follower concerts.

02:21:56.000 She's an international superstar. 0.97

02:21:57.000 And her public support for calling out human rights abuses by, you know, these Balkan governments that are in the crosshairs of the U.S. State Department makes it easier to prosecute those political figures, just like with the OCCRP publishing hit pieces for hire.

02:22:13.000 These people become less popular because the people who love Dua Lipa...

02:22:18.000 We have to sort of hate those U.S. State Department enemies.

02:22:22.000 This has been going on forever, okay?

02:22:24.000 Jazz diplomacy.

02:22:25.000 The State Department was doing this with black African jazz musicians to win the soft power war against the Soviet Union in Africa in the 1940s.

02:22:33.000 The State Department was working with Louis Armstrong and most of the major jazz musicians because the Soviet Union was making the argument in these newly sovereign, independent African countries who had to pick a side in the great power competition that America was racist.

02:22:49.000 America discriminates against African Americans.

02:22:52.000 There's all this, you know, upward mobility limitations.

02:22:56.000 There's no legal – you're underrepresented in the government.

02:23:01.000 The Marxist, socialist, egalitarian concept of communism will liberate you from the racial inequalities of Western – Imperialist capitalism.

02:23:14.000 And so, to offset that, we did jazz diplomacy.

02:23:17.000 You can pull this up on screen as I talk about this, Jamie, just so you see.

02:23:19.000 This is on state.gov.

02:23:20.000 You can look up this whole history, I'm telling you.

02:23:23.000 Look up U.S. State Department jazz diplomacy.

02:23:27.000 I'm looking it up.

02:23:28.000 Louis Armstrong initially pushed back on it, though.

02:23:31.000 He said, the way they're treating my people in the South, the government can go to hell.

02:23:34.000 Yes.

02:23:34.000 Well, many of them did or had a complicated relationship with it.

02:23:37.000 But you can look up everyone.

02:23:39.000 For example, they targeted You know, other, you know, African-American musicians who were, you know, who were using their platform.

02:23:50.000 Who's the guy who sings Old Man River?

02:23:53.000 Paul?

02:23:53.000 Oh, my God.

02:23:54.000 Why am I blanking on the name?

02:23:56.000 Dizzy Gillespie.

02:23:57.000 Yeah.

02:23:58.000 Dizzy Gillespie.

02:23:59.000 Headed the first State Department-sponsored tour.

02:24:00.000 Okay.

02:24:01.000 But we've...

02:24:02.000 This is every...

02:24:03.000 John, I'm telling you, it's every single genre of music.

02:24:05.000 Is it rap music as well?

02:24:07.000 Oh my god, rap music.

02:24:08.000 Can I tell the evolution from jazz to classical to rock music to rap?

02:24:13.000 Sure.

02:24:14.000 So, in the 1950s and 60s, and again, Jamie, you can just follow along as I'm saying all this if you want to put it on screen.

02:24:23.000 There was a big classical music.

02:24:26.000 Dostakovich and other Russian Soviet classical composers were more popular in Europe than American ones were.

02:24:35.000 And these were big aristocratic concerts and elites, and they would be listening to Russian.

02:24:39.000 They'd be listening to Russian music and getting to know more Russian culture.

02:24:46.000 And that would come – money would flow into the institutions.

02:24:50.000 Prestige would.

02:24:51.000 And so to combat that, the CIA-backed front group – and this is all public and known.

02:24:56.000 It's called the Congress for Cultural Freedom – sponsored American classical musicians to travel abroad there, sponsored classical music concerts in Rome and in Paris and in Germany in order to pump up and sponsor sponsored classical music concerts in Rome and in Paris and in Germany in order to pump up and sponsor and have our classical musicians be more predominant in distribution or basically dominate at the time where

02:25:29.000 We did the same thing with rock music.

02:25:32.000 For example, I mentioned Pussy Riot and Pussy Riot being backed by USAID and NED in 2012 in Russia.

02:25:40.000 But also, look at the German rock music scene.

02:25:46.000 We were sponsoring these protest rock anthems against authoritarian governments.

02:25:53.000 All over the Iron Curtain, you know, throughout the Cold War.

02:25:58.000 And in fact, we were sponsoring them basically right up against the side of the Berlin Wall as we were taking it down.

02:26:03.000 Everyone right now can go on YouTube.com and watch the documentary called Taking Down a Dictator, which is an in-depth pro-regime change.

02:26:16.000 I think it was PBS who produced it.

02:26:18.000 This is U.S. government-funded media.

02:26:21.000 Where it has in-depth interviews with all of the architects of the color revolution against Slobodan Milosevic in the 1990s, working with a group called OTPOR, which received $72 million of U.S. taxpayer funding in order to pump up their political operations.

02:26:36.000 Again, I'm not weighing in on whether it was good or bad.

02:26:39.000 I leave it to the audience to make their own determination.

02:26:44.000 But you can see how even in that effectively state-sponsored documentary...

02:26:48.000 It's the State Department's website.

02:26:50.000 It's just going through the years of the...

02:26:52.000 We're going to have a lot more on that when we get to the rap program because they just sponsored 22 rappers and hip-hop artists from around the world to personally come to the State Department and be trained in youth engagement and democracy mobilization in their countries and art as activism.

02:27:11.000 22 rappers from Cameroon, Algeria, France.

02:27:16.000 We'll pull that up as we get to it.

02:27:21.000 Coming back to the...

02:27:23.000 I think we were on the rock music side of it.

02:27:27.000 They were sponsoring this protest rock.

02:27:30.000 I just lost my thread for a second.

02:27:32.000 I felt like I was...

02:27:33.000 Have you ever read that Laurel Canyon book?

02:27:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:27:35.000 About the CIA's involvement in the rock scene in the 1960s?

02:27:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:27:40.000 Weird scenes inside the canyon.

02:27:41.000 Yeah.

02:27:42.000 Yeah.

02:27:43.000 I think it would benefit greatly from a lot of the stuff that I'm laying out now to see how these things had a foreign purpose for pumping up a domestic scene and why you see these military interlinkages with all these music promoters.

02:28:00.000 For example, in that Grey Zone article I recommended in Cuba, USAID ran that operation to sponsor protest rap music.

02:28:17.000 Through a contractor posing as music promoters in Cuba, basically looking at these local rap groups and saying, we can make you an international star, baby, type thing.

02:28:28.000 And then they get radio distribution, and this is how you see these Bono types and Sting types who are at every single Save Ukraine conference.

02:28:37.000 Again, not even weighing in on the substance of it.

02:28:39.000 You want distribution.

02:28:41.000 You use it as a background.

02:28:44.000 And I'd be remiss if I didn't say this, even though I know that this is going to cause a lot of headlines.

02:28:49.000 But here's a great example of this.

02:28:51.000 The NATO Psychological Operations Planning Center in Riga, Latvia, in 2019. And you can pull this on screen if you type in Taylor Swift NATO. Or you type in, you know, what was it?

02:29:08.000 Trained to share messaging.

02:29:11.000 Trained messaging.

02:29:13.000 This was a big news cycle.

02:29:16.000 There was a huge controversy around it.

02:29:18.000 A lot of people misreported it by closing the loops on things that I didn't say, but that are open questions about what really happened, which is this sort of Taylor Swift as an instrument of statecraft.

02:29:34.000 The example I give here is...

02:29:36.000 And if you pull this up on screen, if you just, you know, Jamie, you'll see this.

02:29:41.000 And I have it all underlined.

02:29:43.000 This is a public YouTube right now on NATO's formal website, the Western Military Alliance.

02:29:48.000 They set up this psychological operations, strategic communications cell to do Internet censorship and information operations out of after Crimea and Riga, Latvia.

02:29:57.000 And in 2019, they held a conference there about.

02:30:02.000 How to use AI scanning technology to map out narrative distribution networks on social media, Facebook, Twitter, whatnot.

02:30:12.000 And there's three people who are at this thing.

02:30:16.000 One of them was 77th Brigade from British Intelligence who are presenting to NATO. One of them started their career in the Central Intelligence Agency.

02:30:26.000 And one of them was...

02:30:29.000 Put in the description is someone who was part of the Johns Hopkins School of International Affairs School, but that actually was announced on the panel and, according to their LinkedIn, was actually working at the time for Graphica, which is the...

02:30:49.000 Which does this internet censorship.

02:30:52.000 They get $7 million from the Pentagon.

02:30:54.000 They were incubated.

02:30:56.000 They were formally incubated inside the Pentagon's Minerva Initiative, which is the Psychological Operations Research Center of the Pentagon.

02:31:03.000 When the Pentagon wants to do psychological operations in Africa or in Central Asia, they turn to the thought leadership, the policy planners who pitch ideas about, well, these tactics work.

02:31:16.000 So, for example, one of the Minerva Initiative grants.

02:31:19.000 Not to Grafka, this group, but to others, because theirs was for Russiagate stuff, you know, sort of psychological operations, you know, stuff around fighting the hearts and minds war against Russia, Grafka.

02:31:30.000 But others in the cohort were...

02:31:33.000 How to secure citizen buy-in after a crisis event in order to make people trust their government against when we topple the government and people think it's a coup.

02:31:44.000 I mean, basically how to get people to trust their government when they're skeptical of it.

02:31:48.000 And then you turn around and see Grafica was partnered with the Atlantic Council as well as the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to censor the 2020 election and partnered with our own NIH to censor COVID. But the fact is all three people on this panel.

02:32:01.000 We're involved or had a career at one point in intelligence work.

02:32:06.000 And specifically, you know, at least with two of them, psychological operations.

02:32:10.000 And on screen, Jamie, if you can find it, I think you're going to save us both a lot of headache because everyone will just see it right there in red underlined on a YouTube video everyone can pull up right now.

02:32:26.000 Let me know if you're having trouble finding it.

02:32:27.000 Just trained to spread, maybe?

02:32:31.000 And I'll have this in my time.

02:32:33.000 But it literally has a pitch to NATO. I'm not sure what I'm looking for exactly for that video.

02:32:40.000 It's a 2019 NATO conference, right?

02:32:42.000 Yeah, if you just go to my X-Feed and you just hit the search bar and you type in Taylor Swift.

02:32:47.000 I'm on YouTube, though.

02:32:48.000 You said to go to YouTube.

02:32:48.000 Oh, no.

02:32:49.000 My X-Feed is the best way to search it.

02:32:53.000 But it has a picture on that slide deck where, again, this is...

02:32:59.000 Psychological operations planners pitching to NATO, the Western World's Military Alliance, and the slide has a picture of Taylor Swift, and it basically says something like, and when the receipt's on the screen, you'll read it directly, it says, an example of celebrities who can be trained to spread desired messaging.

02:33:17.000 I think that was the exact phrase, trained to spread desired messaging.

02:33:20.000 And the presenter goes over the drawbacks of this, and we need to decide some of the moral efficacy of this, but...

02:33:28.000 Basically saying that, you know, Taylor Swift has worked in various things before that have been empirically shown to move the needle on government initiatives.

02:33:35.000 For example, her get-out-the-vote, you know, her get-out-the-vote work, increase-the-vote, her public health campaign stuff.

02:33:42.000 Well, don't...

02:33:43.000 That video has a lot of curse...

02:33:44.000 Okay, yeah, pause right there.

02:33:45.000 Okay, no, no, no, scroll up, scroll up.

02:33:47.000 Right there.

02:33:47.000 Pause right there.

02:33:48.000 And if you...

02:33:49.000 You see that?

02:33:50.000 Goal.

02:33:51.000 Identify key actors to train and spread desired messaging.

02:33:54.000 This is on NATO's...

02:33:56.000 We pay for NATO. We paid for this to be pitched.

02:34:00.000 Now, here's where some of this story got misreported.

02:34:02.000 I don't know that anyone from NATO directly reached out to Taylor Swift or her campaign to do that.

02:34:10.000 And if they did, this would not be formalized in a formal Pentagon grant or quid pro quo.

02:34:15.000 But I should note, look at who the biggest sponsor of South by Southwest is in Texas now.

02:34:21.000 Go ahead and look up the scandal if you want about South by Southwest Pentagon funding.

02:34:27.000 They've taken over the music industry because it's hearts and minds work.

02:34:33.000 Okay, I guess that just happened in 2024. Let's see.

02:34:36.000 If you go to...

02:34:37.000 Okay, so this has caused so much problems for the past couple of years that I guess they're now reforming this.

02:34:44.000 But if you run a Boolean search for before 2024, you'll see this.

02:34:48.000 But basically, the Pentagon, or if you scroll down, maybe it might be right there.

02:34:54.000 So it caused this big boycott because the Pentagon, in tandem with this music diplomacy program and these U.S. aid backing of these things...

02:35:01.000 Okay, well, that's a U.S. Army and Palestine one, but you'll see the numbers on this.

02:35:06.000 Basically, the Pentagon moves into this and...

02:35:13.000 Just like they were, you know, giving Dua Lipa the awards, just like they're working with Pussy Riot, just like they have 22. In fact, you can look this up if you want the State Department Music Diplomacy Program, 22 Rappers Hip Hop. 0.60

02:35:23.000 You'll see, again, these people become network nodes.

02:35:28.000 They become assets to play with.

02:35:30.000 And, you know, an incredible example of this that I hesitate to discuss here because I know that the organization That these documents leaked from is contesting these documents.

02:35:47.000 But there's evidence to suggest the same play around recruiting the hip-hop artists in Cuba.

02:35:57.000 Here you go.

02:35:58.000 Breakdancing news.

02:35:59.000 Diplomacy meets hip-hop as 22 artists visit the U.S. Okay?

02:36:04.000 This is the U.S. State Department.

02:36:06.000 We are paying to recruit them as assets.

02:36:08.000 So when they go and go and look at the country list, if you want, look how far and wide this is to the edges of the earth.

02:36:16.000 You know, Mongolia, Cameroon, you know, there's a whole thing here.

02:36:23.000 But basically, it was protest rock.

02:36:27.000 It was protest rap in Cuba for that USAID operation.

02:36:31.000 It was protest rap.

02:36:33.000 There's language, for example, in this Grey Zone report around Bangladesh, and I'll leave it to the current fight between them and the National Endowment for Democracy about the nature of those documents.

02:36:44.000 But those documents that the Grey Zone published have two rap songs in Bangladesh that have lines like they were...

02:36:54.000 Designed to inspire anti-government sentiment and to promote street protests and political reform.

02:37:04.000 I mean, literally writing rap albums to get people to take to the streets and pull off the exact riot that the State Department wants to destabilize the country.

02:37:15.000 And music penetrates.

02:37:17.000 I mean, they got really attached to this during the Cold War and in the 1980s because In fact, in those documents, they talk about how sponsoring individual artists is actually sometimes a lot more effective because they do art and activism.

02:37:30.000 While they're putting on these festivals, they're promoting an agenda at the festivals.

02:37:34.000 While they are putting these songs on radio distribution and supercharging their brand, those songs have themes and messages about...

02:37:45.000 Taking down authoritarian governments, and the people gotta rise up.

02:37:48.000 And, you know, we have to represent the will of the people.

02:37:53.000 We have to, you know, end poverty, you know, and then they'll make the argument it's the government's fault that there's poverty.

02:37:58.000 We have to end racial or gender inequality, and then the State Department or USAID will be working.

02:38:04.000 There's demographic segmentation with those exact groups.

02:38:07.000 This is another reason we've been pumping up these feminist groups and these LGBT groups. 1.00

02:38:12.000 If you want, for example, you can pull up the WikiLeaks CIA red cell memo that showed how the CIA pitched to the State Department during the Afghanistan war that the best way to shore up additional funds from European parliaments is to transition states' media octopus messaging from a national security predicate for For the war to a feminism and a women's empowerment one because of fieldwork and polling

02:38:42.000 from the Central Intelligence Agency around Europe showed that European parliaments and voting demographics said on surveys that they were more willing to give money or wanted to give more money from their own government coffers, their own taxpayer funds, to the war in Afghanistan.

02:39:03.000 If it was about stopping repression against women or if it was about giving women more rights in the society and whatnot.

02:39:10.000 That wasn't because the CIA loves feminism now. 1.00

02:39:14.000 This was a cold, calculated instrument of statecraft to shift the messaging and then also to work with these exact groups who have that cleavage point axe to grind against their country.

02:39:27.000 As part of the mobilizations.

02:39:28.000 It's how you see a lot of these women's marches and women's protests, where you see a lot of these sort of protected class ones, because that also gets you the human rights predicate to add sanctions and other protected speech measures.

02:39:42.000 Like, this is why the State Department pushed Facebook to put hate speech provisions in place to stop hate speech against the Rohingya.

02:39:48.000 One of the things that's come up that has been talked about quite a bit over the last couple of years...

02:39:55.000 Is that the government had some sort of an influence on the emergence of gangsta rap and the promotion of it.

02:40:04.000 What do you know about that?

02:40:07.000 I don't have a good record, you know, in the 80s and 90s.

02:40:12.000 There's a lot of strange things there, and I want to tell you what I really feel.

02:40:18.000 It is highly controversial, though, and I... I'm not sure with everything else that we're covering and some of the other things that I'd like to be able to just hit before the conversation concludes about USAID's control and influence over prosecutors.

02:40:36.000 And an example in Brazil, since I know that a lot of people in Brazil...

02:40:39.000 I definitely want to get to Brazil.

02:40:39.000 Yeah, okay.

02:40:44.000 I'm going to get in a lot of trouble if I say this.

02:40:49.000 When you read that National Endowment for Democracy...

02:40:52.000 Oh, we didn't do the Poland one.

02:40:53.000 Can we circle back to this in one second?

02:40:56.000 Yes.

02:40:56.000 Just because this really is an appropriate international incident to talk about this here.

02:41:02.000 If you go to my X feed and you just type in search Poland or the word PIS as a one-off, or you can just scroll down.

02:41:10.000 You'll see I re-upped it earlier this morning.

02:41:13.000 You're going to see the National Nile for Democracies in-house journal called the Journal of Democracy.

02:41:19.000 Again, the NED is this.

02:41:21.000 CIA front group.

02:41:23.000 The New York Times reported the CIA gets a copy of every grant that they make.

02:41:28.000 Their own founders say that the CIA got in trouble for sponsoring pro-democracy groups around the world in the 1960s, and that's why we don't do it anymore, and that's why the National Endowment was created, basically to take the baton from the CIA during that transition between...

02:41:46.000 Carter anti-CIA and Reagan pro-CIA. This was the compromise between left and right in that.

02:41:51.000 That's why they have two political cores, IRI and NDI. But can you pull that back up?

02:41:56.000 Okay.

02:41:58.000 USA's partner in operations arm, National Down for Democracy, has been specifically demanding Donald Tusk's government in Poland must find ways to arrest high-ranking members of the PIS party in order to, quote, stamp out populism.

02:42:08.000 They wrote this the first month in office.

02:42:11.000 So, and again, you'll see this is responding to someone facing three years for flagging us.

02:42:14.000 Now, let's click on this.

02:42:15.000 Now, again, we pay as taxpayers for the production of National Endowment for Democracy's in-house journal, the Journal of Democracy.

02:42:22.000 So, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

02:42:23.000 Can you zoom out?

02:42:25.000 Just zoom out a little bit.

02:42:27.000 I want you to see this.

02:42:27.000 Yeah, perfect.

02:42:29.000 How to dismantle a liberal democracy.

02:42:31.000 So again, NATO was at war with the PIS party.

02:42:33.000 They wanted more cooperation on security, on economic issues, whole other can of worms.

02:42:39.000 They wanted Donald Tusk, the pro-EU, super pro-NATO candidate to win.

02:42:45.000 He wins the month he takes office.

02:42:48.000 This is December 2023. National Endowment for Democracy.

02:42:51.000 The CIA publishes this think piece.

02:42:53.000 How to dismantle a liberal democracy.

02:42:55.000 And again, I think formally, you know, what's published here is supposed to, you know, not technically.

02:43:00.000 It's published in the NED publication.

02:43:02.000 It doesn't mean it's NED formal policy, but this is what they're publishing and you're paying for.

02:43:06.000 So they're saying, listen, it's not an autocracy in Poland.

02:43:09.000 Unfortunately, we can't call it a dictator like Putin or the CCP. It's democracy because the people voted for it and they won fair and square, but it's a liberal democracy because the democratic institutions, don't you know, are not having their way.

02:43:23.000 But here's what it says.

02:43:24.000 Poland may be saying on its first steps in, quote, stamping out populism and holding those responsible for the worst violations of rule of law.

02:43:32.000 That means the criminal justice system.

02:43:34.000 Now get to the next one.

02:43:35.000 Next slide.

02:43:37.000 Poland's new government must, therefore, do more than just return to liberal democracy.

02:43:42.000 It must address transitional justice, the same thing, which is all over every USAID operation.

02:43:48.000 It has to arrest the people.

02:43:51.000 From the government we just transitioned from.

02:43:53.000 Prime Minister Tusk and his coalition must, again, not should, not maybe should consider, maybe if there's something there, must stabilize the political system.

02:44:02.000 Ensure the reign against losing in the next election.

02:44:07.000 To ensure that populism does not return in the next election.

02:44:12.000 Donald Trump is a populist president.

02:44:15.000 Bolsonaro is a populist president.

02:44:17.000 Marine Le Pen is populist in France. 0.97

02:44:19.000 Matteo Savini is populist in Italy.

02:44:21.000 This is State Department and USAID policy everywhere, and this is part of the can of worms that's going to have to be unwoven here.

02:44:27.000 But this is a direct order, that in order to make sure you win the next election, and we don't need to keep funding you or lending our soft power apparatus to prop you up, arrest these people so they can't run against you again.

02:44:40.000 Go to the next one.

02:44:43.000 Can you zoom out?

02:44:46.000 It's not just telling them that you must do it if you want to get USAID support like the, you know, the Ukraine, you know, Ukraine Burisma loan type thing.

02:44:55.000 But here's what it says.

02:44:56.000 The new government should therefore focus attention on whether and how suspected governments can be punished.

02:45:00.000 At present, there are a number of cases that should be tried immediately.

02:45:05.000 The chutzpah. 0.94

02:45:06.000 The frigging chutzpah. 0.98

02:45:09.000 This is a foreign, as far as the Polish people are concerned, this is a foreign government. 0.97

02:45:17.000 It's foreign CIA front apparatus imploring their own elected government about which citizens there, that they need to arrest those citizens, and even giving them the list of targets.

02:45:31.000 Imagine if the Russian Ministry of Affairs sent Donald Trump, said not only do you have to, you know, arrest The remnants of the Kamala Harris-Joe Biden campaign, but we're giving you the list of target names.

02:45:45.000 Here's who Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, must file criminal indictments against. 1.00

02:45:51.000 This is an international incident.

02:45:52.000 Again, technically, I believe what's published here is not, they're not supposed to be, you know, does not represent, it's like retweets are not endorsements, but you're paying for this organization, you're paying for this journal, and this is what they're publishing as a command to a foreign country.

02:46:07.000 This was a Trump ally, by the way, the PIS party, which is another part of this.

02:46:12.000 Ned is doing a boomerang attack.

02:46:13.000 By preventing PIS's popularity in Poland, they do a boomerang attack against the foreign policy international coalition that Trump has.

02:46:22.000 So here are the cases.

02:46:24.000 These include the 2015 appointment of judges.

02:46:26.000 So arresting people for appointing judges.

02:46:30.000 Here's another one.

02:46:31.000 To arrange a supposedly unconstitutional presidential election by mail-in voting during the pandemic.

02:46:37.000 W2ETF! It was practically a crime to not support mail-in voting with the National Endowment for Democracy here, but over there, they're saying it's a crime to have done it.

02:46:51.000 Arrange a supposedly unconstitutional present election by mail-in voting during the pandemic.

02:46:57.000 Wow.

02:46:58.000 Yes.

02:46:59.000 And again, we can get all into this USAID NED rabbit's nest and all the domestic entanglement.

02:47:04.000 And also the 2023 visa scandal.

02:47:06.000 Oh, yeah.

02:47:08.000 This is the same thing they do.

02:47:09.000 Have you ever seen Alejandro Mayorkas' visa scandal from when he was in the Obama DHS and he was the deputy there?

02:47:16.000 You can pull this up on Google.

02:47:17.000 I believe it's 2015. The guy who was our head of DHS, which is the domestic interplay with all these foreign blob organizations. 0.72

02:47:26.000 Was busted by his own inspector general in doing fast-pass, no-look expedited visas for Obama political donors and not putting it through the process.

02:47:39.000 And the visa scandals are all over this.

02:47:41.000 It was John Brennan as CIA station chief, by the way, in Saudi Arabia in the romp to 9-11 who, together with the U.S. consulate, Issued the visas to 15 of the 19 9-11 hijackers.

02:47:58.000 That was our visas.

02:47:59.000 Now, look, there were only 11 of the 19 were Saudis.

02:48:02.000 They were actually giving Saudi visas to non-Saudis.

02:48:05.000 And 15 of the 19, you can read all about this, and the guy who ran the visa desk for that U.S. consulate is J. Michael Springman.

02:48:12.000 He wrote a book called Visas for Terrorists, where he goes over how the whole thing was done.

02:48:20.000 But, wait, wait, I'm not done.

02:48:22.000 There's one more.

02:48:22.000 Can you pull up the fourth thing?

02:48:27.000 Because it's a doozy.

02:48:29.000 So go to the next one.

02:48:31.000 These are just illustrative tips, cases, and maybe just the tip of the iceberg of who our CIA front group, our USAID operations arm, is saying must be done.

02:48:43.000 Naturally, the leader of the Law and Justice Party himself, the democratically elected president, hey, Does what happened to Donald Trump now after the transitional justice that happened when Biden Justice Department took power starting to make a little bit more sense now?

02:48:58.000 Should be held responsible.

02:49:00.000 But legally proving allegations against him will likely be difficult. 0.96

02:49:04.000 Damn, the problem is we don't have a case. 0.94

02:49:06.000 We want to arrest him, but we actually don't really have anything good to get him on. 0.99

02:49:09.000 So let's get all his lieutenants. 0.95

02:49:12.000 And again, the objective, pacification, stability.

02:49:17.000 You don't need to worry about them winning the next election.

02:49:21.000 Populism as a political possibility in Poland will be stamped out because the intelligence networks and the money arm of USAID and the corrupted and warped prosecutors are all on the take.

02:49:34.000 Jesus.

02:49:35.000 By the way, multiply this problem basically in every country on Earth because we can get to a dozen of these.

02:49:39.000 Can I do a fun exercise real quick?

02:49:42.000 Go to google.com and just, you know, I mentioned this exercise before and just literally...

02:49:48.000 We're just going to go maybe five, six pages and just read what pops up.

02:49:51.000 And I haven't even fully done this exercise.

02:49:54.000 I'm just, I'm so confident in what I'm about to say that we can do it live.

02:49:59.000 Go to Google and type in USAID and then, again, Boolean quotes, the phrase, quote, judicial reform.

02:50:07.000 And I can also show you, I've showed something.

02:50:09.000 Okay, all right.

02:50:10.000 So here you go.

02:50:11.000 Let's just go through a list of countries that we are seizing the judiciary.

02:50:15.000 We are influencing the judges, the courts, the legal system, the criminal justice system, the prosecutors.

02:50:21.000 Okay, let's just start at the top.

02:50:22.000 Okay, so what is that country?

02:50:25.000 Click on that link for a second, then go back.

02:50:26.000 In the project, in the republic.

02:50:28.000 What republic is that?

02:50:31.000 Okay, Serbia.

02:50:32.000 Oh, what do you know?

02:50:34.000 We're back to Dua Lipa.

02:50:36.000 Can't stop now.

02:50:36.000 Alright, so that Atlantic Council Distinguished Leadership Award is starting to make a little bit more sense now.

02:50:45.000 There's an in-process attempt to basically bribe and co-opt the very same criminal justice system that our state-sponsored musical performers, I shouldn't say sponsors, our state-awarded ones are calling to take action against.

02:51:00.000 Okay, let's look at, what's the next one?

02:51:02.000 This one didn't come up.

02:51:03.000 They gave me a blank page.

02:51:05.000 I mean, their website's down.

02:51:06.000 Okay.

02:51:06.000 For advancing EU integration, can we just see the country name in number two?

02:51:10.000 Okay.

02:51:11.000 EU integration.

02:51:12.000 That's like, for example, they want to, you know, fold these, you know, the Ukraine into the EU, right?

02:51:18.000 There's been a big, you know, big thing about this.

02:51:20.000 Join the market.

02:51:21.000 You know, also join NATO. That's what this is.

02:51:23.000 How do we get the criminal justice system on board, you know, with basically criminalizing opposition to it?

02:51:28.000 Okay, and we can keep, wait, just keep scrolling down.

02:51:30.000 We're just going to do this for like four or five pages.

02:51:32.000 I just want to, you know, like literally every single one of these is a government program.

02:51:36.000 Okay, so here, there, that one above was DRC with Democratic Republic of Congo.

02:51:40.000 Okay, we're, how we are taking over the court systems in Congo.

02:51:44.000 All right, go on to the next page or here.

02:51:45.000 Okay, yeah, next page.

02:51:49.000 Okay.

02:51:50.000 So, let's see here.

02:51:51.000 Okay, more on Congo.

02:51:53.000 Okay, Uzbekistan.

02:51:54.000 We're doing this in Uzbekistan.

02:51:56.000 Albania.

02:51:57.000 We're doing it in Albania.

02:51:59.000 Yeah, it keeps going down here.

02:52:01.000 Let's see.

02:52:01.000 El Salvador.

02:52:02.000 We were doing it in El Salvador.

02:52:04.000 This is one of the reasons you can imagine Bukele was the first one on X to say, oh my God, there's no more rental rights in El Salvador anymore.

02:52:12.000 And why was USAID so opposed to what we were doing getting rid of the drug networks?

02:52:15.000 Okay, here's for Ukraine.

02:52:17.000 Here's for...

02:52:19.000 Central America.

02:52:21.000 Here's more for Serbia.

02:52:22.000 Here's for Georgia.

02:52:24.000 This is stock standard doctrine.

02:52:26.000 It's the same USAID Truman show everywhere we go.

02:52:30.000 This thing has been dialed in for 60 years.

02:52:32.000 And that's why I say it's going to take 50 years to untangle this.

02:52:36.000 Because you're going to run to political headwinds the whole time.

02:52:39.000 You don't think you're going to have money flowing back?

02:52:42.000 By the way, they're going to go straight to their partners in Europe and around the world to do top-up funding for what they lose from USAID. For example, they might go to the European Endowment for Democracy.

02:52:54.000 The EU may have to start making funds to these U.S. anti-Trump networks.

02:53:01.000 They may have to tap into their allies in China or their allies in other Central American or South American governments.

02:53:09.000 But, mark my words, that USAID Truman show, that joint, you know, these censors in exile, these, you know, regime changers in exile right now are going to glob on to every international ally they humanly can.

02:53:28.000 They will be pressurizing the United Nations.

02:53:32.000 They'll be pressurizing multilateral organizations like NATO, the EU, and, you know.

02:53:38.000 Even some of these economic development packs to use the critical components they have there and sometimes dominant spot they have there to weaponize those assets. 0.70

02:53:47.000 And that gets back to this sort of EU fight.

02:53:49.000 But I can pause and move to Brazil.

02:53:51.000 Pause.

02:53:52.000 I have to pee.

02:53:53.000 Okay.

02:53:53.000 When I come back, rap music, Brazil.

02:53:55.000 Yeah.

02:53:55.000 All right.

02:53:55.000 We're right back.

02:53:56.000 We're back.

02:53:57.000 So first, hip-hop.

02:53:59.000 Yeah.

02:54:00.000 Okay.

02:54:00.000 The thing that you think you're going to get in trouble for.

02:54:03.000 Oh.

02:54:03.000 You're going to make me do this.

02:54:05.000 Well, you already teased it.

02:54:06.000 I think it was the 2009 National National Network for Democracy Cuba rap Journal of Democracy article that I believe was co-authored by Ned's founder, Carl Gershman, who openly said that Ned does what the CIA used to do.

02:54:30.000 that they effectively took the baton from it.

02:54:32.000 And again, the CIA has copies, according to the Washington Post and New York Times of every grant Ned makes.

02:54:41.000 When you look at the analysis, the in-house analysis done by Ned there, that there was this dense interplay between the Afro-Cuban population and the drug networks in Cuba, and then you look at the role of hip-hop and drug culture in retailing what is wholesaled in,

02:55:05.000 obviously, USAID, CIA, Pentagon narco networks.

02:55:13.000 Like, for example, we talked about the Mujahideen narco network.

02:55:16.000 They even set up a CIA bank right there to back it.

02:55:20.000 We did the same thing in 1960. USAID set up in 1961. At the very moment, two weeks before USAID was created, JFK awarded the Green Beret to the Special Forces.

02:55:31.000 Just two weeks before that.

02:55:33.000 Then he creates USAID. That was October 1961. November 1961, he creates USAID. December 1961, one month after, he launches Operation Pincushion in Laos for the U.S. Special Forces to train and recruit hillside guerrillas in Laos, who are primarily funded by the drug networks that they sit on in the Golden Triangle.

02:55:56.000 They sat on the opium of the Golden Triangle and the way they financed their own guerrilla war, CIA-backed war, and this is all...

02:56:05.000 Well-known.

02:56:06.000 Ving Pao was the CIA. It was the commander there of the CIA mercenary rebel forces there.

02:56:13.000 This is 1961 to 1967 in this period that I'm talking about.

02:56:17.000 Special forces go over there to recruit these hillside guerrillas.

02:56:19.000 They form an army.

02:56:20.000 Ving Pao is made the head of it.

02:56:22.000 This is going to connect to the rap thing in a sec.

02:56:26.000 Ving Pao was...

02:56:29.000 Was financing the CI's mercenary army by retailing the opium from Laos into these networks in Southeast Asia, like these CI proprietary banks, like everyone can look up Nugent Hand Bank or Castle Bank and Trust, these CI banks that were set up to launder basically drug proceeds, and they all got in a lot of trouble for this a few decades ago.

02:56:52.000 The problem was is they couldn't sell enough because they were a scrappy little upstart, you know, group of hillside guerrillas.

02:56:58.000 So what did USAID do in 1967?

02:57:03.000 This is the 1960s, how long this has been going on.

02:57:07.000 So they were recruited by the Special Forces.

02:57:09.000 They were managed by the Central Intelligence Agency.

02:57:13.000 USAID provided the financing, and this is all according to and in the Senate testimony of...

02:57:20.000 Professor Alfred McCoy, this is a book called The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia.

02:57:25.000 He testified in front of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1972. He detailed all this in his book.

02:57:31.000 But USAID provided the financial assistance for Ving Pau and his narco-terrorist network to purchase two airplanes from two CIA proprietary... 0.73

02:57:46.000 One of them was Air America.

02:57:48.000 Another one was Continental Air Services.

02:57:50.000 Both of these have been revealed in subsequent years to be CIA proprietary airlines.

02:57:54.000 So the CIA commander, the commander of the CIA rebel army buys two planes from two CIA airlines and then uses them to traffic and retail the drugs by selling them to the market in Vietnam where we had special forces boots on the ground.

02:58:11.000 So basically it was wholesaled by the CIA in that case.

02:58:15.000 And then it was the logistics for that network were provided by USAID, and then it was retailed to poor, unsuspecting souls all over Southeast Asia.

02:58:27.000 Play the same game in the Golden Crescent with Afghanistan. 0.82

02:58:30.000 Play the same game with the cocaine trade in its route from Peru and Bolivia up into Colombia and then up into the distribution networks in Miami, Los Angeles, Chicago, you name it.

02:58:46.000 When you start having organized crime and drugs as the front end that retails the products and services that are wholesale and part of an intelligence or military operation, you can't sell those drugs by having someone with a Department of Defense ID badge on the street corner on Facebook.

02:59:17.000 187th and Broadway.

02:59:19.000 There are retail networks for that.

02:59:22.000 And that is the role of many of these drug mule and organized crime networks all over the world.

02:59:29.000 And I have serious concerns about networks in Chicago.

02:59:37.000 I mean, you know, Gary Webb obviously wrote all about this in Dark Alliance.

02:59:40.000 And, you know, there's...

02:59:42.000 There's all sorts of fantastic books on all of this if you want to read more, like Operation Gladio by Paul Williams.

02:59:48.000 There's so much in this field, but the role of narcotics is in financing black budget military covert operations in every major place they spring is a black box that is not my crusade.

03:00:08.000 Frankly, again, I wish we didn't even go here, but I do feel like you do need to have a side-eye glimpse into some of these worlds to understand Internet censorship, because you are going to find USAID NGOs.

03:00:22.000 If Bukele had not done the radical reforms that he had had...

03:00:27.000 The internet would have been completely censored by USAID and the State Department in order to rig hearts and minds against him because they would want to stop him from cleaning out these drug gangs.

03:00:40.000 He would stop them from cleaning up the crime.

03:00:42.000 You're going to see the same thing about fact-checkers in Pakistan.

03:00:47.000 For example, according to the Grey Zone report on...

03:00:53.000 USAID and NED in Bangladesh.

03:00:55.000 And in fact, this is actually, I believe, on the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan's website, the Countering Misinformation Training Seminar they had with the guy who's now the top foreign advisor in Pakistan.

03:01:08.000 And they brought in the executive director of PolitiFact, flew him all the way out to the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan to train journalists about...

03:01:18.000 About how to counter misinformation.

03:01:20.000 The same journalist training seminars.

03:01:22.000 We're seeing Internews do. 1.00

03:01:23.000 We see SEPs do.

03:01:25.000 We see the Atlantic Council do.

03:01:29.000 But I come back to the U.S. Institute for Peace, on a live URL as we speak, not even two years ago, made an impassioned plea to the Taliban to keep 95% of the world's heroin flowing.

03:01:47.000 You have to explain that to the American people.

03:01:51.000 That is the State Department's policy.

03:01:54.000 U.S. Institute of Peace is not going to go rogue against the State Department foreign policy there because they're funded by the State Department.

03:02:02.000 You see the same thing with these ISIS terrorist drug narco networks?

03:02:07.000 Anyone remember the WikiLeaks email?

03:02:09.000 Jake Sullivan to Hillary Clinton while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State?

03:02:12.000 ISIS is on our side in Syria?

03:02:14.000 Well, that means the more of those poppy crops that get retailed off to ISIS networks, the more powerful and well-financed they are, the more they can pay their soldiers or stop their soldiers from defecting, from being mercenaries.

03:02:31.000 And lo and behold, that same network just toppled the Syrian government.

03:02:36.000 And I should note, structuring through USAID is the sauce to this, because...

03:02:42.000 There is a sitting tweet from the U.S. Embassy in Syria from 2017 when Trump was wiping out ISIS that put a $10 million bounty on the head of Mohammed al-Jelani, the commander of those forces, the current basically head of state in the interim government in Syria.

03:03:00.000 There was a $10 million bounty on his head under Trump.

03:03:04.000 They made the argument that his HTS group was an al-Qaeda spinoff and no al-Qaeda allowed.

03:03:13.000 Well, according to his own military generals, who said this openly in mainstream media after the fact, we were constantly playing shell games with the numbers to hide the troop activity and what we were doing on the ground in Syria and the broader region.

03:03:29.000 If you don't need a presidential finding to finance a terrorist group or a paramilitary group, it's too dirty for CIA. The president won't approve.

03:03:38.000 Run it through USAID. And what does this have to do with hip-hop?

03:03:41.000 Well, you have these narco networks. 0.87

03:03:46.000 Like, for example, like what I was saying about, USAID bought the airplanes for the wholesalers to move it to the retailers.

03:03:59.000 When you have this intersection between hip-hop and the drug economy, hip-hop popularizing it, you have a lot of these rappers who've said, we're told by our promoters or our managers to lean into that stuff.

03:04:14.000 You have the whole organized crime gang.

03:04:18.000 I'll give you an example.

03:04:18.000 This is in Gary Webb's Dark Alliance, where he goes through this network from basically the CIA playing a...

03:04:25.000 And the Defense Department playing a leading role in propping up these narcotics trades in South America because they were pumping up right-wing death squads and right-wing paramilitary narco gang networks that were violent and effectively shut down left-wing Marxist theology movements who were considered to be pro-Soviet.

03:04:47.000 This is how you have a lot of this, for example, with Iran-Contra and the Reagan years.

03:04:52.000 So, you know, he makes a very compelling case about the role of the U.S. intelligence community at the wholesale level in Peru and Bolivia and at the actual processing in Colombia.

03:05:04.000 And then the movement in transport to the gangs in Los Angeles and Miami and Chicago and the like.

03:05:11.000 And that wholesale movement effectively goes from, you know, Langley slash Crystal City in D.C., D.C., Virginia.

03:05:22.000 To a sort of, you know, Hispanic population in South America, into, you know, other, into gangs that are retailing it, you know, into these Compton gangs, into these, you know, these Chicago and Miami and New York ones. 0.66

03:05:45.000 You have a culture of drug use that creates a market for...

03:05:50.000 For selling the proceeds so that drugs can be turned into cash, which can then be used to purchase guns.

03:05:57.000 And when you see this just liquid seamlessness there, and then, you know, I don't want to tax Jamie too much, but, you know, this gray zone report in Bangladesh has specific language with...

03:06:15.000 The National Endowment for Democracy and one of its subarms making explicit grants to Bangladeshi rap groups for the explicit purpose of getting people to take to the streets in street riots and protest movements and to undermine public faith and public confidence and favorable sentiment for the then-in-power Bangladeshi government.

03:06:39.000 You know, they were targeting the youth movements.

03:06:41.000 Remember when we pulled up the 22 hip-hop artists on screen and the whole thing was about youth mobilization?

03:06:46.000 These people formed the front end of the, you know, of the destabilization.

03:06:52.000 So your argument is essentially that this game plan is ubiquitous and that this game plan is done in the United States, too, to promote drug use and drug selling, which they profit off of.

03:07:04.000 I'm not even going that far.

03:07:05.000 What I'm saying is there's a useful role.

03:07:09.000 Around, you know, of music and other artistic and cultural ventures for creating a market for something that helps U.S. statecraft.

03:07:21.000 For example, this was the major, major scandal.

03:07:25.000 The head of the Central Intelligence Agency, John Deutsch, had to travel to Compton in 1997, I believe that was the year, in order to plead with the black population there.

03:07:36.000 That what had happened with the CIA's role in the drug trade was a sort of occasional one-off accident, wasn't authorized, wasn't supposed to happen.

03:07:46.000 But the fact is, those narco networks supported the Nicaraguan Contra movement.

03:07:51.000 You needed a market to sell it.

03:07:55.000 And those were inner-city urban populations in Los Angeles that were...

03:08:02.000 You know, they weren't the ones growing the cocaine.

03:08:04.000 That was grown in Peru and Bolivia, and then it was processed in Colombia, and then it was, you know...

03:08:09.000 That's all that stuff that Michael Rupert exposed.

03:08:11.000 Yeah, there's been a million, and it's everywhere you look, and it's not just south.

03:08:15.000 And again, I don't want to, you know, this stuff is all, to me, just interesting.

03:08:21.000 I don't have a hard opinion on it.

03:08:23.000 I almost don't want to take away from, you know, so much of the...

03:08:29.000 Important factual stuff where I have the receipts on screen.

03:08:32.000 But what I'm saying is you are going to see resistance from very strange pockets as you do this distinct entangling process.

03:08:38.000 How many people knew that an arm of the State Department right next door to it that gets all of its money from the State Department who sets the foreign policy is telling the Taliban to keep the drug networks open?

03:08:48.000 Or that same arm is going after Bukele when he tries to arrest the drug criminals in El Salvador, which, by the way, was the...

03:08:58.000 You know, the most intense of these narco right-wing death squads during the Cold War.

03:09:10.000 And we pump up every cultural vector we can.

03:09:12.000 Again, you know, watch Taking Down a Dictator, that documentary, and look at the role of music in the State Department's eyes in being able to galvanize street protest movements, gets everyone on the street united, gets everyone listening to the same thing.

03:09:25.000 They're all sort of, you know, aligned like a magnet.

03:09:31.000 I mean, even look at places like the Azov Battalion and how they sort of grew out of this black metal rap, black metal music coalition with highly extremist lyrics and whatnot in Ukraine.

03:09:44.000 The same sort of extremist lyrics you saw in the Bangladeshi rap songs or the call to take to the streets in the Cuban ones.

03:09:50.000 And again, this has been going on a long time. 0.94

03:09:53.000 Look at the lyrics of a Pussy Riot song. 0.53

03:09:56.000 And remember, they literally are standing at the Secretary of State's podium, arm in arm with the U.S. State Department. 0.59

03:10:11.000 And everyone can look up CI's Rolling Rock and whatnot.

03:10:16.000 There's great Guardian articles about all this as well.

03:10:20.000 It's more to say, coming back to this USA Truman Show, that everything and anything can be an instrument of statecraft, whether that's the prosecutors, the universities, the unions, the media, the social media, arts, dance.

03:10:33.000 This is where you get these transgender dance festivals and this demographic segmentation to see who hates the government.

03:10:39.000 Well, if the government is cracking down on transgenderism or is not kind to it or they feel like they want more rights, that's a useful demographic as a cleavage point for the U.S. State Department to capacity build, flow money to, so that they can be used as a battering ram. 0.97

03:10:55.000 And I'm not endorsing that, but that is just why we work.

03:10:59.000 Okay.

03:10:59.000 We're running out of time, so let's get to Brazil.

03:11:02.000 Yeah.

03:11:02.000 Okay.

03:11:03.000 So, Jamie, I sent you a bunch of these, you know, screenshots that my foundation is going to be publishing in our final report, but I wanted to just go through these here because we've been talking about the role of The criminal justice system, more than anything, you know, media is rigged.

03:11:22.000 Okay.

03:11:22.000 It's a headline.

03:11:23.000 It's a reputational smudge.

03:11:25.000 It can cost you your job.

03:11:27.000 When the criminal justice system and the judges are rigged and the prosecutors are rigged, you don't even have a country anymore because they can arrest the president.

03:11:36.000 They can arrest the politicians.

03:11:40.000 And it's a shortcut to control over the whole side.

03:11:44.000 And we went through examples with, you know, Ukraine, Burisma, Serbia, we went through that whole exercise, but Jamie, if you can pull on screen, we can just go through the text messages, this will be the last thing, of USAID's role with the judiciary in Brazil.

03:12:03.000 And specifically against Bolsonaro, who is targeted by these anti-misinformation actions.

03:12:08.000 Populist president.

03:12:09.000 Populist, right-wing, they called him the Trump of the tropics.

03:12:13.000 Same thing, part of that same international coalition.

03:12:16.000 Let me know if you have any trouble.

03:12:19.000 Maybe if you start with the first one, actually.

03:12:21.000 I think this is it, or unless I'm in the wrong way.

03:12:24.000 Maybe scroll down.

03:12:27.000 Do you see the ones where you have the lead judge?

03:12:34.000 If I put the wrong thing on the screen, your phone number is going to show.

03:12:39.000 How about just the pictures with the...

03:12:41.000 Okay, here you go.

03:12:42.000 So, yeah, we can start with that one.

03:12:45.000 Right there, that image right there.

03:12:46.000 Does that guy look familiar?

03:12:50.000 This is the Lord...

03:12:51.000 Actually, he actually looks kind of like a mixture of both of us, Joe.

03:12:55.000 It's kind of funny.

03:12:57.000 But this is the man that they call the Lord Voldemort Judge of Brazil.

03:13:01.000 This is the head of the TSE, the censorship court, which is the subgroup of their Supreme Court.

03:13:06.000 And here you see a seminar.

03:13:10.000 That he is being trained in.

03:13:13.000 Where is that name?

03:13:14.000 Ring a bell?

03:13:15.000 SEPPS? How many hours have you and I now spent talking about the SEPPS program, the USAID program that explicitly set its job to get foreign countries and foreign courts to pass censorship laws?

03:13:27.000 This is USAID funded and implemented by the National Endowment for Democracy.

03:13:32.000 This is SEPPS.org.

03:13:34.000 If you go back to the panel, I'll show you more on this.

03:13:40.000 Okay, here's another one.

03:13:42.000 SEF's core partner, IFES, this is basically the election strengthening, teaming up directly with Brazil's TSE court.

03:13:49.000 That is the censorship court that seized X's, that shut down X, and that seized Starlink's assets, and that effectively criminalized the speech of virtually any significant pro Bolsonaro voice in Brazil.

03:14:03.000 This is our USAID network doing the training, doing the networking, and if you go back, I'm just going to show a couple more of these.

03:14:11.000 Okay, this is Internews.

03:14:13.000 Internews, who we covered, $500 million from USAID every single year.

03:14:19.000 In Brazil, doing training seminars for how to flag pro-Bolsonaro disinformation.

03:14:25.000 I can go on and on.

03:14:26.000 I got layers of all these different judges and the pitches to the prosecutors to arrest it.

03:14:32.000 The whole thing was a USA Truman show taking over the judiciary, or at least substantially influencing and tilted to take out their political enemy, Bolsonaro, the whole way down.

03:14:42.000 And X is still banned in Brazil.

03:14:45.000 No, I believe X entered into compliance by taking certain actions.

03:14:53.000 So they have to censor.

03:14:55.000 Yes, I believe they're still subject to the edicts of the court.

03:14:59.000 I should note...

03:15:00.000 Oh, say lift ban October 8th.

03:15:02.000 Yeah.

03:15:03.000 After it pays a $5 million fine.

03:15:05.000 Right, right.

03:15:06.000 But, and by the way, Bumble...

03:15:08.000 But the ban is in place essentially to keep Bolsonaro from gaining power.

03:15:12.000 Well, right.

03:15:12.000 Well, they wanted to make sure that, again, it's the same thing with Poland.

03:15:17.000 They want to achieve stability, democratic stability, so that he can't rise hugely popular right now.

03:15:22.000 It was a razor-close election.

03:15:24.000 And remember, you know, we pull a lot of tricks in order, you know, around that.

03:15:28.000 And you're going to find a lot more of that when you look into the role of unions like the National for Democracy Solidarity Center and the whole suite there.

03:15:39.000 Remember, we literally pulled favors with Taiwan.

03:15:42.000 This is reported in the Financial Times in order to get them the semiconductor chips to build the voting machines against.

03:15:49.000 Against Bolsonaro's wishes.

03:15:51.000 The head of the CIA went down and threatened him.

03:15:53.000 Bill Burns did.

03:15:54.000 The head of the Pentagon went down and you met with the army to tell them, you know, you have to trust the result of the election.

03:16:00.000 Lloyd Austin, the head of the Pentagon.

03:16:03.000 You know, we're saying the head of the CIA, the head of the military, we're running semiconductor chips just so that they can make voting machines that the elected head of state doesn't want.

03:16:13.000 And then, you know...

03:16:14.000 We're funding their workers' movements.

03:16:18.000 So we have a very specific outcome that we want, and then we also make sure that they use voting machines that we provide.

03:16:25.000 I'm not even weighing into the voting machine issue, except to say that it's very strange that we would divert semiconductor supplies bound for the U.S. during a critical shortage.

03:16:35.000 And give them to a foreign government to put in voting machines that the elected head of state doesn't want. 0.89

03:16:41.000 That's a very curious thing.

03:16:42.000 You can read about all the, you know, inside details of that published in the Financial Times and other places.

03:16:47.000 Jesus.

03:16:50.000 It's also daunting.

03:16:52.000 You know, it's just, it's so overwhelming.

03:16:56.000 How do you sleep?

03:16:58.000 Well, I must say I don't.

03:17:03.000 But...

03:17:04.000 We have an opportunity.

03:17:06.000 We've already done more than anyone has ever done.

03:17:10.000 No foreign-facing government agent, no cog in the wheel of this Dirty Tricks apparatus has ever had 14,000, 99.8% of the workforce laid off, the name taken off the building from a month in terms of the lightning speed of it.

03:17:34.000 But I feel a sense of hope and optimism and a kind of spiritual fulfillment, if that's too big a phrase to say.

03:17:45.000 But you don't see me happy or doing cartwheels.

03:17:49.000 It doesn't really show on my face because I know the...

03:17:56.000 The scale and the duration of this fight is going to continue for the rest of my lifetime.

03:18:02.000 And so, this is not a sprint period.

03:18:04.000 We're running fast, but it's a marathon the whole way.

03:18:06.000 What's unbelievably baffling to me is the complete absence of the coverage of all these things that should be very concerning in mainstream media.

03:18:17.000 Complete absence.

03:18:18.000 All the discussion, the negative anti-Trump discussion about USAID shutting down is all the good that it does.

03:18:28.000 And then also, you're going to get access to people's private data.

03:18:33.000 That's all you're hearing.

03:18:34.000 You're hearing the gaslighting spin is those two things.

03:18:38.000 Right.

03:18:39.000 But every single one of those, people need to understand the category.

03:18:42.000 They talk about public health and all the lives and how many more people are going to have AIDS and HIV. In 2014, USAID was busted running a covert operation where according to their own...

03:18:53.000 You know, people who are involved in the operation, they set up an HIV prevention program in foreign countries because it would be the perfect excuse because counterintelligence would never think that the HIV clinics were the place that they were using as key nodes in the regime change network.

03:19:11.000 How many other facilities?

03:19:12.000 They were caught there.

03:19:13.000 How many others?

03:19:14.000 But in every single one of those, it's dual purpose because the fundamental reason you do this out of USAID is to dupe people.

03:19:21.000 And this puts our oversight bodies in a difficult spot.

03:19:26.000 Let's just say we're funding transgender dance festivals in some country because, turns out, they really dislike a government that we consider authoritarian.

03:19:36.000 And so you could actually see a sort of, I don't know the situation in Venezuela, but let's just say that the Trump administration has been at war with Maduro and wants to pursue a policy of turning over that government, and it just so happens that That government is persecuting the transgender population and the transgender population, if they could just be built up more, you know, would be able to convert, you know, convert more hearts and minds to vote against Maduro.

03:20:02.000 Well, you could see a sort of, if I may say, again, I'm not saying this should be done.

03:20:08.000 I'm just saying you could see a sort of MAGA foreign policy explanation for funding transgender dance festivals in Venezuela if that's what the baseline assessment reveals.

03:20:17.000 The problem is, is...

03:20:19.000 American people are never going to be allowed to know about it because imagine the Senate Oversight Committee. 0.97

03:20:23.000 Why are we funding these transgender dance festivals in Venezuela?

03:20:26.000 Oh, actually, because we're running a lie there.

03:20:30.000 By the way, everyone in Venezuela can watch this live hearing.

03:20:32.000 The whole thing is actually a carefully constructed lie because we're cynically exploiting the transgender people to serve as battering rams against the head of state we want to overthrow, but we have not declared that publicly. 0.98

03:20:44.000 I mean, we're back to plausible deniability. 0.66

03:20:48.000 Jesus.

03:20:53.000 This is a lot.

03:20:54.000 I think it's probably good to end right here.

03:20:56.000 Okay.

03:20:56.000 But thank you, Mike.

03:20:58.000 Thank you for everything.

03:20:59.000 Thanks for being you.

03:21:01.000 I don't think a lot of people would chase this down like this.

03:21:04.000 And I know this is a lot of weight.

03:21:06.000 It's quite a burden that you're carrying.

03:21:08.000 But, I mean, I think you're being vindicated in a scale that I've never seen before.

03:21:14.000 It's pretty impressive.

03:21:16.000 And all the stuff that you were talking about before all these documents were exposed, before the Doge went into USAID, you were dead right about all of it.

03:21:24.000 Thank you.

03:21:25.000 And again, I don't want to get you in trouble with this stuff.

03:21:28.000 Some of the topics that we talked about, like the drug stuff and the rap stuff and some of the terrorism stuff, is not my primary focus.

03:21:37.000 I'm not making hard facial claims there.

03:21:39.000 I don't care about the Taylor Swift thing.

03:21:41.000 Frankly, it's just...

03:21:43.000 Fascinating that you would see that on a native...

03:21:45.000 What I care about is what we talked about with its control over media, its control over prosecutors, its control over social media and pushing social media censorship and these sorts of things that we have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to reform.

03:22:00.000 And I want to thank you and express my personal gratitude for having these difficult and, I'm sure, taxing conversations to crack it all open.

03:22:09.000 My pleasure.

03:22:10.000 Thank you.

03:22:11.000 All right.

03:22:12.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - February 12, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2272 - Mike Benz

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