In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Train, I sit down with former CIA analyst David Petraeus to discuss his new book, The Dark Side of the Matrix: Inside the CIA s Secret War on the Internet, and why he believes it s time to wake up America to the truth about what s really going on in the world.
00:00:17.000All night I was like, ooh, tomorrow's gonna be a good one.
00:00:20.000For you, it must have been very exciting to have the vault opened.
00:00:25.000And to get a peek into the machine, because you've been describing this.
00:00:29.000The last time you were on the podcast, you went into depth about USAID. And it's very curious why they chose USAID as the first organization for DOGE to investigate, because it seems like they were the ones that resisted the most.
00:00:43.000Well, you know, the joke that I tell here is it's like what they tell you to do your first day of prison is you go in, you walk up to the meanest, baddest SOB, and you...
00:00:53.000I mean, that's basically what's happened here with the White House's first target being USAID. Because USAID opens up the entire world of the blob, the foreign policy establishment, and its weaponization of what are supposed to be foreign-facing Department of Dirty Tricks operations against domestic opponents.
00:01:24.000In fact, I think we're at the tip of the iceberg, and what people are going to see on this is going to completely reorient their mental map of how they think the world works, how they think American power projects into the institutions.
00:01:39.000And I think the calls for reform are going to get louder and louder as people realize the reality that's been constructed around them is downstream of something that was started very long ago when American statecraft to manage the American empire for the benefit of the American people began to warp and distort.
00:02:03.000Every institution in American life, from the media to now the social media companies, to the unions, to the universities and academics, to the NGOs and think tanks, to the prosecutors, to our conception of terrorism, to our conception of activity in the drug trade, to what we're really doing with...
00:02:29.000Public health programs and the medical establishment and what drives that, you know, all the way into poverty relief and you name it.
00:02:39.000I mean, every institution is instrumentalized by this apparatus, supposedly to help us.
00:02:44.000But really starting, this has been done in U.S. history before.
00:02:47.000This happened against the left, against the Democrats in the 1960s and 70s when the CIA and, you know, to an extent it's...
00:02:55.000Sister orgs like USAID and whatnot were pumping money into domestic politics to stop the anti-Vietnam War movement.
00:03:02.000And this led to the reforms of the late 1970s, the Church Committee hearing, the Pike Committee hearing, the establishment of a Senate Intelligence Committee and House Intelligence Committee for oversight.
00:03:12.000But even that was a very small glimpse into the window.
00:03:17.000The analogy I give here is like the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe, the chronicles of Narnia, where there's this whole cinematic universe.
00:03:25.000You're living in this house, and there's this closet in the back of a wardrobe.
00:03:31.000And if you never walk through it, you never see that whole world.
00:03:34.000You can live your whole life without seeing it.
00:03:36.000But when you open that door and you step into it, you see there's an entire other universe here that's been right next to you this whole time.
00:03:43.000When you first started working for the State Department, did you have any inclination that you were going to get involved?
00:03:50.000Did you have any inclination that this was going on?
00:04:01.000Around August 2016. I was deeply passionate about the internet censorship issue.
00:04:12.000I had some weird experiences playing chess as a kid where I sort of came of age when Garry Kasparov lost to Deep Blue and AI took over, really took the spirit out of a lot of the chess world.
00:04:29.000And it was apparent to me as a kid that these AI chess engines were going to out-compete humans.
00:04:35.000But when I was young, the sort of older people in the room...
00:04:41.000And when I saw that same thing in 2016 with the development of AI censorship superweapons, I call those weapons of mass deletion, that they would be like weapons of mass destruction but for speech.
00:04:54.000A few lines of code would allow you to destroy entire political movements, governments, narratives.
00:05:03.000We would permanently change the face of political warfare or...
00:05:08.000Domestic politics, you don't need a standing army of 100,000 censors if you just have one, you know, machine learning, you know, just ingested database, you know, of 900 million tweets that you can ingest and then make this sophisticated narrative network map of all the different keywords and concepts you want to censor.
00:05:31.000And to me, that was like this free speech.
00:05:37.000I started that quest in 2016, but very quickly, that research and the process of trying to write that showed these international networks immediately.
00:05:49.000I mean, the NLP, the natural language processing sort of backbone of this, was all being sponsored by DARPA to be able to monitor the speech of ISIS or extremist or terrorist groups.
00:06:04.000Coming home and being advocated here, I spent my whole day, morning, noon, night, 20 hours a day basically, chronicling, archiving.
00:06:15.000That's how I know so many of these characters is because I feel like I know them better than my own friends and family having spent so many years watching this all develop.
00:06:26.000What did it feel like being one of the only people that was sounding the alarm?
00:06:30.000For essentially eight years like you get involved in 2016 and No one even the general public until you came on this podcast I don't even think we're aware that this was an issue at all But even then things got lost so quickly in the cycle of news things just come and go so quickly until Doge started unraveling All the spending.
00:06:52.000And you start seeing things like $200 million allocated to transgender experiments on monkeys.
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00:08:02.000totally I mean it's been It's been exhilarating.
00:08:07.000You know, there is a sort of, I understand the weight of history here.
00:08:11.000We are doing open-heart surgery on the body of the American empire, our influence abroad, and it has to be done well, and so, you know, I want to help the American homeland, and so this is a sensitive process, but,
00:08:27.000you know, obviously, it's been a bit surreal seeing the past couple weeks where people are now I go to my X timeline and I see everyone doing the same exercise that I gave up everything to be doing eight years ago.
00:08:43.000Because all this stuff is open source.
00:08:45.000You didn't need to be an inside guy to see this if you knew where to look.
00:08:53.000I used to joke as the main difference was until Freedom opened up when Elon acquired X and a few institutional changes began to happen.
00:09:03.000You know, in the government and with Congress.
00:09:05.000But, you know, I used to joke that USAspending.gov was the main difference during the height of this censorship, you know, total control era, was the main difference between us and Russia and China, which was that we have this sort of autocratic control over information and institutions by the U.S. government.
00:09:24.000The difference is we can go to USAspending.gov and look up how they do it.
00:09:31.000When I've been going to my X timeline and seeing everybody independently doing that exercise and finding the joy in that, the self-discovery process, and being able to share it with people and everybody being able to understand and make sense of the receipts because, you know, this framework for understanding it has been shared and popularized, that to me has been the goal all along to be able to give people the language and the frameworks to understand.
00:10:01.000What is so terrifying and necessary to reform, but that's right there in front of your eyes if you only open your eyes to see it.
00:10:12.000It's got to be exciting, though, for you to be there on Operation Day when they are doing the open-heart surgery.
00:10:20.000We need to make sure that the patient doesn't die on the operating table just because it's the right move to do the open-heart surgery because the patient needs it.
00:10:31.000Doesn't mean that the operation goes well if, you know, if the operating surgeons don't know the anatomy of the organ they're operating on.
00:10:38.000And so that I see right now as sort of my prime function is to just teach more and more of the anatomy of the organ so that the people who are operating on the patient, the American homeland, and generally speaking, the American influence and power projection into foreign countries comes out better, smarter.
00:11:01.000And there is a hard domestic firewall against our foreign-facing dirty tricks.
00:11:08.000Criminal penalties against agencies who go against this.
00:11:13.000Civil penalties so that you can sue both the agencies and the NGOs who are sponsored.
00:11:18.000Maybe with treble damages in a bill from Congress so that...
00:11:22.000If USAID, in whatever form it continues to take, whether that's at the State Department or whether it gets rolled back out into another independent agency, that you could sue the agencies as an individual if they've broken that domestic firewall so that there's an incentive at the agency on their own budget to tightly oversee these things.
00:11:42.000There's so much that can be done to bring this in line in a smarter and more moral way.
00:11:52.000I think one of the most offensive things to Americans is that all this was being done and all this money was being spent while they were denying money to people that clearly needed it.
00:12:06.000Like particularly victims of natural disasters like Maui.
00:12:12.000The fact that they're spending all this money on those things, and yet they gave those people a one-time check of $770 or something along those lines.
00:12:22.000Well, this gets to the fundamental heart of the breach of the social contract that this thing was always set up to do.
00:12:29.000It was really set up in 1948 when George Kennan created this...
00:12:36.000NSC 10-2, this National Security Council.
00:12:39.000We completely reoriented the structure of the American empire in 1948 after World War II. In 1947, we passed something called the National Security Act.
00:12:48.000That's what established the CIA. That's what established the National Security Council, which coordinates all of our foreign-facing empire management work.
00:12:57.000It renamed the Department of War to the Department of Defense so that it didn't look like we were acquiring territory by military force, which had just been banned under international law, under the UN Declaration of Human Rights.
00:13:09.000And so we moved from primarily kinetic warfare into what George Kennan called, just two months before he created the plausible deniability doctrine that we live under, he called this organized political warfare.
00:13:21.000And he has a great memo from April 30th, 1948. It's just 12 days after the CI's first operation, first time it ever overthrew or rigged the election of a foreign government.
00:13:33.000This was the April 1948 election in Italy that pitted a pro-Western candidate against a sort of pro-Soviet candidate.
00:13:43.000And so the U.S. State Department felt it was essential to tip the scales of that election because it showed that the pro-Soviet candidate was winning 60 to 40.
00:13:52.000This is all declassified and all the major people who are involved in that operation have all come out and said this publicly.
00:13:59.000So basically we threw together this ramshackle effort to tilt that election by pumping in propaganda, by using charities and churches as fronts to funnel money into the pro-Western political party.
00:14:18.000We worked with the mafia and we worked with mafia-connected unions because these were all assets for the War Department during World War II because Mussolini was cracking down on them.
00:14:34.000So the War Department had a relationship with these.
00:14:36.000Organized criminal networks to serve as a beachhead against Mussolini.
00:14:41.000But we kept those relationships in order to run this pro-democracy regime change thing.
00:14:46.000So in 1948, when we established the secrecy doctrine that we now live under, all these NGOs work under this cover effectively because of their sponsoring organizations, USAID or CIA or state.
00:14:58.000And he called it the inauguration of organized political warfare.
00:15:01.000And what he said is, we need to create a covert apparatus to hide what we do.
00:15:05.000From the rest of the world to do secret political warfare on the low.
00:15:10.000And the problem is, is the American people are not going to like this.
00:15:13.000The American people do not understand the intricacies of international relations.
00:15:17.000They think there's always an easy political cure-all.
00:15:40.000We need to create a capacity to do black propaganda, to do economic sabotage, demolition.
00:15:47.000There's a whole list of what's authorized under NSC 10-2.
00:15:50.000And what he says is, the American people are not necessarily going to like this, and we're going to need to effectively hide what we do from them, because if they find out, then the rest of the world finds out.
00:15:59.000If we're trying to run an operation in Eurasia...
00:16:24.000What was done then under Obama was the effective repeal of it.
00:16:29.000It was called the Smith-Munt Modernization Act.
00:16:31.000But the modernization got rid of the whole purpose of it, the firewall, because at the time, the media and media control was seen as the linchpin crux of winning the Cold War, piping in pro-U.S. media influence, because everything moved after World War II from kinetic warfare...
00:16:56.000We used to militarily occupy the Philippines, for example, after we won the Spanish-American War.
00:17:00.000But that was banned under international law, territorial acquisition by military force in 1948. So we had to win elections.
00:17:08.000And we had to influence the passage of...
00:17:12.000Laws in foreign countries by having an apparatus inside those countries that influenced the hearts and minds of people, which influenced who they voted for, which then determined the government.
00:17:22.000So you had to move towards political vassalage rather than military occupation.
00:17:27.000And what the Smithmont Act did is simultaneous with the creation of this in 1948, Congress recognized the Frankensteinian monster they were creating by authorizing a covert permanent Department of Dirty Tricks.
00:17:40.000And this is their phrase, not mine, to do this cloak and dagger, to infiltrate and co-opt the universities, the unions, the media, the politicians, the judges, the whole swarm army.
00:17:53.000You know, what I have been calling for a long time the USAID Truman Show, because, you know, these people in these foreign countries have no idea, you know, how many how many things they interact with that are effectively a movie set being constructed by the U.S. State Department and its sister influence orgs.
00:18:10.000But the point that I'm getting at here is the Smith-Munt Act in 1948 said, okay, you guys can do this.
00:18:26.000There was a guy named Frank Wisner who was known as one of the godfather figures of the CIA. He's known for creating what was called the Wisner's Wurlitzer, which was a, it's like a church organ, and that he would brag that he could play the international media like a symphony to make any media narrative go viral in any country on earth because of the suite of CIA proprietary media functions and its distribution network.
00:18:50.000Especially when the U.S. had first-mover advantage in radio and print.
00:18:53.000It's basically the U.S. and U.K. were the only games in town, really, in having robust radio, film, TV, and print media.
00:19:02.000So Smith-Mont said, okay, you can do that abroad.
00:19:06.000You can plant fake news stories in France.
00:19:19.000You can't psyop our own people with your propaganda organ abroad.
00:19:24.000Because the point of authorizing this is that we get cheaper gas, we get import-export markets, we get a high standard of living because if a foreign government doesn't want to give up its resources or allow a U.S. military base or allow...
00:19:40.000Joint partnerships or exports of goods or US multinational corporations to operate there, then the American people suffer economically.
00:19:49.000So it was always designed to say, listen, you can do this dirty stuff abroad, but it can't come home.
00:19:56.000And even that protection, which lasted for 70 years, and we only lost it a decade ago, we're up against a much actually We have a Smithmont problem for funding and operations.
00:20:21.000The blob, our foreign policy establishment, can fund groups that effectively work with prosecutors domestically or that work at media, sort of dual use.
00:20:37.000to do media propaganda abroad, but they operate here, or social media censorship to coerce foreign countries to pass foreign censorship laws that explicitly and are intended to attack U.S. social media companies and in U.S. peer-to-peer speech.
00:20:54.000If we're going to keep this function at all, we need a hard firewall and absolute grotesque penalties for any violation.
00:21:04.000So when you're watching all this unfold, one of the things that I've been seeing is that there's been legal action to try to halt some of it.
00:21:15.000They've been told to destroy any information that they got from certain databases.
00:21:20.000What's your take on this and whether any of that is going to hold up?
00:21:32.000You know, it's funny because it's sort of a circular dragon eating its own tail because you're going after the primary soft power projection organ of the blob because it's been weaponized against Americans.
00:21:45.000But what is the blob authorized to do?
00:21:47.000What is USAID authorized to do under statute?
00:21:50.000Well, something they call judicial reform, which is USAID poaching, funding financially the networks around judges, around courts, around the legal system, around the governance structure of every country on planet Earth.
00:22:07.000I mean, Jamie, if you want to just go through a fun exercise right now, you can even put on screen just a simple Google search so people can see just how open source this is.
00:22:15.000And I can walk through specific damning examples of this.
00:22:18.000But if you just type in on Google the word USAID and then in a Boolean quotes, judicial reform.
00:22:27.000And what you're going to see are basically 100 countries that USAID is going after the judges, Going after the judges, going after the legal system in order to rig the scales of justice in favor of the foreign policy establishment's interest there.
00:23:30.000I'm simply noting that it's an oddity that a group funded by a major CIA funding conduit, USAID, while the CIA has the ability to hack any target around the world that's authorized by the National Security Council.
00:23:46.000They're getting these special access documents that are reportedly either hacked or leaked, and they're being sponsored by the group that's connected to something with a hacking power.
00:24:11.000Their name has been so pristine for so long.
00:24:14.000They've been around for almost 20 years.
00:24:17.000And they were sponsored in order to do...
00:24:19.000They do investigative hit-piece journalism about corruption.
00:24:22.000And what they do is they go after all of the State Department and USAID and DOD's opponents in the region.
00:24:29.000So, for example, Jamie, I texted you this beforehand, but if the first thing you want to put on screen are the first two images that I texted you, this is from the USAID.gov website.
00:24:38.000And I think this will shock people when they see this.
00:24:45.000With the USAID.gov URL right there, And so that you can see how...
00:24:51.000Yeah, so if you go to the first page that I texted you, and then we'll get to this one.
00:26:09.000If you go back to that page, which is page two of this USAID thing, here's what you see.
00:26:14.000So for $20 million of investment from USAID, here are the, and this is live on the website.
00:26:22.000You can find this in the Wayback Machine right now because the USAID website's down.
00:26:25.000This is USAID, the U.S. government bragging about the achievements of what they achieved by spending $20 million.
00:26:33.000At least $4.5 billion in fines levied against targets of these hit pieces.
00:26:40.000Now, by the way, I should note that the head of the OCCRP was busted in a major documentary that is very little distribution, but I encourage everyone to watch, where he said, because this was, I think, a year and a half ago or whatnot, but they're up to over $10 billion now.
00:26:58.000It's on the WikiLeaks X page right now.
00:27:02.000It's by a group of German journalists who had one-on-one interviews with the head of this group, OCCRP, as well as the USAID grant coordinator and others.
00:27:13.000And so it's straight from the horse's mouth.
00:27:15.000And he says in that interview, I believe his name is Drew Sullivan, that it's now over $10 billion.
00:27:24.000I think he said it was a 20,000% return on investment because all these dollars were, quote, returned to government coffers.
00:27:33.000So for $20 million of mercenary media for the state, state-sponsored hit pieces, the government's got $10 billion back.
00:27:44.000That's a 1995 Amazon-level return on investment.
00:27:51.000But now let's get into the darker stuff.
00:27:54.000548 policy changes by the government or actions by civil society and the private sector.
00:28:00.000Now, we don't know if these policy changes are good or bad.
00:28:03.000Do you think USAID would list them as accomplishments if they were not in furtherance of USAID's or the State Department's foreign policy goals in the region?
00:28:12.000What they are saying and trying to sort of speak through their teeth, as they say it, is that they proudly sponsored hit piece journalism to ruin people's lives and go after political targets in order to change the policies is that they proudly sponsored hit piece journalism to ruin people's lives and go after political Now, it goes on to say 21 resignations and sackings, including of a president and prime minister.
00:28:41.000Now, the head of OCCRP in this documentary openly says that their reporting caused, I think it was five or six different governments.
00:28:54.000So this is state-sponsored media hit pieces so that prosecutors can arrest presidents and prime ministers to regime change their government and install a more pro-U.S. political vassal figure in the region.
00:29:08.000And then the last one is 456 arrests and indictments.
00:29:12.000And this, again, is listed as a USAID achievement.
00:29:17.000We don't know whether they're guilty or innocent or whether or not these were political prosecutions like you see right now with the New York District Attorney's Office, which is a whole other USAID-connected can of worms.
00:29:30.000These are state-sponsored hit pieces for hire in order to give the Justice Department, the prosecutors in a region, the ammunition to arrest the enemies of the state.
00:29:41.000The prosecutors don't have the capacity to do a whole investigative journalism dig.
00:29:45.000They might not have access to hacked documents that, for example, the CIA, the NSA, or deeply connected political insiders might be able to give to a group like OCCRP. Now, USAID gets a veto right over who they can hire.
00:29:59.000OCCRP has to submit an annual work plan to be submitted to and reviewed for approval by the State Department and USAID. And here's the kicker of it all.
00:30:11.000USAID dug up, I'm sorry, OCCRP paid for by us, U.S. taxpayers, dug up dirt on Rudy Giuliani's work in Ukraine.
00:30:21.000This is because this was part of the 2019 impeachment and Rudy Giuliani and his work in Ukraine.
00:30:28.000They went and dug up dirt on Rudy Giuliani, a domestic U.S. citizen, high-profile political figure, actually attorney to the U.S. president.
00:30:37.000And then that dirt came home and was used as part of the basis for the 2019 impeachment of the sitting president, Donald Trump.
00:30:45.000That would have never happened unless USAID sponsored that hit piece work.
00:30:51.000And then they did the same thing with Paul Manafort.
00:30:55.000Because it's the same foreign policy blob that went after Trump in the first place because of his difference in foreign policy vision around Ukraine, Russia, and other major.
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00:31:07.000People like to throw around all these red flags, you know, things someone says or does that you don't like, which is fine.
00:31:14.000But instead of focusing on the negative all the time, why don't we focus on the positive?
00:31:19.000If you're looking for a romantic partner, think about what traits you like to see in a person.
00:31:24.000If you like to work out and stay in shape, you might want to find someone who's also health conscious.
00:31:29.000Or if you like to travel, you probably want to find someone who's just as adventurous.
00:31:34.000Now, once you're in a relationship, it's a whole different ballgame and things aren't always going to be perfect.
00:32:46.000This is a different case than that, because this was related to the 2019 impeachment and all the Ukraine kerfuffle around the quid pro quo call, allegedly.
00:32:57.000President Trump made to President Zelensky, which, by the way, we should get to USAID's role in the Joe Biden quid pro quo side of this in a second.
00:33:06.000But that case, I believe, related to two workers in Georgia, and it was related to the whole investigation of election fraud and whether or not there may have been fraud perpetrated in the Georgia election in, I believe it was either 2021 or it may have been I'm sorry, 2020. That case I'm not deep in the weeds on, but I have to say this as well.
00:33:37.000And Jamie, I don't know if the whole audience is familiar with this clip, but it's an incredible scandalous clip.
00:33:43.000Do you remember when Joe Biden was at the Council on Foreign Relations and bragged that he got the top prosecutor in Ukraine Fired by the Ukrainian government because he explicitly conditioned the firing of the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma.
00:34:05.000He expressly conditioned their receipt of a billion dollars in U.S. financial assistance on the firing of Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor.
00:34:33.000Find that video, Jamie, because it's a shocking video.
00:34:37.000It's just the hubris and the ego that someone has to have to speak of this publicly while it's being filmed, not just publicly.
00:34:45.000Not just in a room, not even just saying it out loud, but saying it in front of the Council of Foreign Relations backdrop.
00:34:53.000And actually, before you play this, can I make one quick note for the audience that everyone can look up publicly?
00:34:59.000The Council of Foreign Relations, I'm just about to text Jamie another thing related to this.
00:35:04.000I'm going to pull up the USAID grant so that everyone can see this billion-dollar USAID grant that he's referring to here and what's in the grant details.
00:35:13.000When Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, running the State Department that USAID answers to, right?
00:35:18.000USAID is independent but guided by the State Department.
00:35:22.000Because it's a State Department function.
00:36:35.000I said, "The president said, I said, call him." I said, "I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars." I said, "You're not getting a billion?
00:36:42.000I'm going to be leaving here, I think it was, what, six hours?" I looked, I said, "I'm leaving in six hours.
00:36:47.000If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money." Well, son of a bitch, got fired.
00:36:53.000And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.
00:38:03.000Basically, the final months of the Obama administration, this is right before the November 2016 election, USAID announces a billion-dollar loan guarantee.
00:38:11.000Remember, he referenced the loan guarantee.
00:38:13.000By the way, do they pay these loans back?
00:38:15.000Well, depends on if they play ball or not.
00:38:18.000This is another one of these things, right?
00:38:21.000If you're a good boy and you do what the blob tells you to do, maybe we can be flexible in loan forgiveness.
00:38:27.000Maybe we can allow you to punt the default.
00:38:34.000This is why we infiltrate and co-opt these institutions and why you have a $44 billion annual slush fund around the world to do this.
00:38:42.000But you'll see, it's the issuance of the billion-dollar loan guarantee to the government of Ukraine, and it's to support the implementation of...
00:39:05.000And remember the last time I was here, we went over the 2019, Zelensky's first month in office, the red lines memo, you know, talk about how do you prove you're a good boy?
00:39:15.000Well, when you get the red lines memo that you will suffer political instability unless you do the 25 below listed policy things with your government, you know, that factors into what the U.S. ambassador in the region will tell their Ukrainian or other government counterparts.
00:39:33.000Loan guarantees and whatnot are conditioned on.
00:39:35.000But so if you go to the, you'll notice that Biden there used a very specific phrase there about securing commitments.
00:40:06.000So USAID has given $27 million in grants to the Tide Center, which is the fiscal sponsor that gives the 501c3 stats to the Black Lives Matter Global Network.
00:40:21.000And to a group called Fair and Just Prosecution, which basically manages prosecutors who are simultaneously funded by the Open Society Foundation.
00:40:31.000They work with Alvin Bragg and Letitia James and all these other ones.
00:40:35.000But you'll see here, and this is a $1.5 million grant, you'll see that exact phrase that Joe Biden used about securing commitments from governments to fight corruption.
00:40:50.000Sometimes this diplomatic statecraft, this strong-arm pressure, is done directly by the vice president.
00:40:56.000Sometimes it's done by interlocutors, like our state-sponsored NGO swarm, who allow our ambassadors and allow the White House to maintain a layer of plausible deniability, that it's an intermediary saying it, and they can say much harsher things than what can be conveyed and maybe used against you in a formal diplomatic channel.
00:42:26.000This directs USAID to guarantee loans.
00:42:29.000So it's loan guarantees for every phase of development of oil and gas in Ukraine, Moldova, and Georgia.
00:42:35.000Now, if you go to the next screenshot in this, this is a foiled...
00:42:47.000Or legally obtained internal document at the State Department, which says, despite his ruined name in Ukraine, Zlochewski is actively campaigning.
00:42:55.000He's been sending letters to ambassadors Yovanovitch and Pyatt.
00:43:01.000They note that Hunter Biden and Devin Archer are on the board.
00:43:04.000And they say, even internally, at state, USA does have cooperation with Burisma.
00:44:05.000They don't want the media to report on the massive conflict of interest of Joe Biden going in and kicking out that prosecutor and conditioning USAID money on it while USAID is directly working with Burisma.
00:44:19.000The State Department, using its media mockingbird apparatus funded by your tax dollars, the swarm of NGOs, has reported publicly this week that 90% of Ukrainian media outlets are funded by the U.S. government.
00:44:40.000If they want to keep getting their contributions, there's going to need to be review and approval by USAID. And by state, because often these are co-grants, and so they have the capacity to ensure that the incentives are aligned for the journalists to be responsible with the way they report on the USAID-Burisma connection while Joe Biden is weaponizing USAID to protect Burisma.
00:45:08.000By the way, I should note, Hunter Biden's law firm actually pitched using Burisma as an instrument of statecraft to the State Department because The more you capacity-build Burisma, the more endogenous gas Ukraine is able to supply, and so that's less gas being exported into Europe from Gazprom and Russia.
00:45:51.000We're incentivizing this pioneering approach and we're uniquely in the position to do it.
00:45:55.000And what's important about this is this explains for a lot of people that are very baffled by obvious propaganda and misinformation that's being propagated by the mainstream media.
00:46:06.000When you look at mainstream newspapers and television shows saying things that are just factually incorrect, you could research it.
00:46:26.000Well, actually, Jamie, if you pull that receipt back up, there's a paragraph there we didn't read, but that's useful to this.
00:46:31.000And then there's another topic related to this that I think makes this point even harder.
00:46:35.000But look at that fourth paragraph there.
00:46:37.000This is from the U.S. State Department, which is in control of managing all of the media assets, those 90% of media assets in Ukraine and the ones that simultaneously operate here.
00:46:46.000I would offer that Burisma's incentive to support could plausibly read, the main objective of Burisma was to create incentives for journalists to offer sympathetic coverage.
00:47:30.000On that topic, can we talk about a related scandal and, frankly, monstrosity that the American people need to understand the full extent of its influence on American hearts and minds?
00:47:48.000So, Jamie, if you go to X, I think probably the best thread on this currently published is the WikiLeaks thread on Internews, which just reading some of the statistics in that will help make sense of some of the clips and screenshots that I'm which just reading some of the statistics in that will help make sense of some of the clips and screenshots that I'm going to show you about its operations that impact
00:48:16.000So, if you just look up, just type in the word Internews, one word, I-N-T-E-R-N-E-W-S, and you go to search on the WikiLeaks profile, you'll see...
00:48:35.000So Internews, I've been talking about for a long time, but now the stage is sort of set to really show the extent of this.
00:48:46.000What we do is we create these pretty little predicates, these pretty little lie words, weasel words, to hide from the American people and especially from foreign governments what we're really doing in the area.
00:48:55.000So we have a catchphrase at state and in statecraft.
00:49:19.000But we call them independent because they are said to be independent from foreign governments influence.
00:49:25.000So basically, they're independent from the Chinese government or they're independent from the Russian government.
00:49:31.000Just like with the word USAID itself that we talked about last time, it's your mind playing tricks on you.
00:49:36.000You're seeing aid, but it's Agency for International Development.
00:49:40.000But they do the same thing with independent media, which is that internally to them it means it's a good guy for us because it's independent from our enemies.
00:49:49.000But when Americans see that, they think, well, independent, that means it's a free actor who's not being sponsored by any government.
00:49:58.000But under the banner of USAID's independent media and media sustainability branches, we fund half a billion dollars a year to this network of, again, over 4,000 media outlets.
00:50:12.000It reaches 778 million people, 9,000 journalists trained.
00:50:17.000Remember last time we went over the Atlantic Council with seven CIA directors in annual funding from USAID, as well as the State Department and Pentagon, how they were holding up iCall.
00:50:27.000B.S. placards and putting Trump tweets on screen to flag for disinformation.
00:50:56.000And you'll see here, for example, it makes reference to Gene Bergo, who is making half a million dollars a year there.
00:51:05.000And if you go now, I'm going to show this domestic impact real quick and then a couple screenshots.
00:51:10.000So this has been going viral on X. I've been talking about USAID's role in the censorship industry.
00:51:16.000And if you look up, if you just look up Internews and you just plug in the name, you know, if you just copy paste that, you know, Gene Burgo phrase, you'll see this in the video section because it's everywhere now.
00:51:29.000So she made speeches for a long time, but this is a big one.
00:51:49.000Like what they did to X. Yeah, exactly.
00:51:52.000Disinformation makes money, and that's one of them.
00:51:54.000We need to follow that money, and we need to work with the, and particularly the global advertising industry, that a lot of those dollars go to pretty bad, bad content.
00:52:03.000And so you can work really hard on exclusion lists or inclusion lists to really try to focus ad dollars and challenge.
00:52:10.000Global advertising industry all around the world to focus our ad dollars towards the good news and information, the accurate and relevant news and information.
00:52:19.000So this is USAID sponsoring both sides of this.
00:52:23.000She runs a $500 million mercenary media for hippies for hire, Empire, sponsored by USAID. USAID also gave $68 million to the World Economic Forum itself.
00:52:36.000And USAID's own internal documents show the explicit political targeting of these advertiser networks.
00:52:43.000And I can show you receipts on that if you just type in the word CEPPS, C-E-P-P-S. And advertiser on my X timeline.
00:52:51.000And I don't mean to just go receipt to receipt to receipt.
00:53:21.000So this is Internews with a worldwide media octopus sponsored a half a billion dollars a year, you know, reaching 9,000 journalists, 5,000 media outlets.
00:53:32.000And here's what they were doing just on COVID censorship.
00:53:39.000So Rooted in Trust is an Internews program.
00:53:43.000It's a global pandemic information response program to counter the unprecedented scale and speed and spread of rumors and misinformation.
00:54:40.000But I want to just show the scale of this.
00:54:42.000You sponsored your own state censorship.
00:54:47.000Rooted in Trust has tracked more than 19,000 rumors about the virus across 14-plus languages globally, over 81 million people.
00:54:57.000In response to the unique rumors sourced from each country context, this USAID-sponsored project has produced a total of over 130 rumor bulletins, 500 radio broadcasts, and 480 media stories.
00:55:12.000Through a series of training opportunities, events, peer-to-peer networks, and small grants, Root& Trust has supported 550 local media organizations in order to scan and ban the internet.
00:55:25.000And more importantly, to connect communities with...
00:55:29.000Directly with timely and accurate COVID-19 information, which all turned out to be lies.
00:55:34.000I only had time before this to text one page of this.
00:55:37.000I mean, everyone should go through this document.
00:55:39.000I'll post it on my X feed, and there's millions around this.
00:55:42.000I mean, the whole global coordination was done through this, through USAID and the U.S. State Department and its partners in the U.K. and in NATO. And, you know, the fact that these very organs are implicated in it, these strange DARPA grants around creating the gain of function,
00:56:00.000you know, the USAID, you know, grants that were all jumping, you know, animal to human for these things, you know, the presence of folks like Avril Haines, the deputy director of the CIA and then head of director of the director of national intelligence, you know.
00:56:20.000At these censorship planning conferences for Event 201, the fact that state and DOD and the UK Foreign Office all funded all of the censorship organs like the Atlantic Council and Graphica and these others that we went over last time.
00:56:35.000Basically, they're the prime suspect for the crime, and they sponsored the entire white blood cell apparatus to swarm any...
00:56:45.000Kernel of truth penetrating the membrane in order to orchestrate the cover-up.
00:57:51.000We know they're willing to do horrible, evil shit, but is there a ceiling on that?
00:58:01.000Even now to this day, having spent So much of my life in it.
00:58:06.000I try to just pursue the leads that I have and then try to let the conclusions come to me.
00:58:14.000Certainly the fact that they funded the capacity to do this, they worked directly with all the networks that were both doing it and censoring it, puts you pretty much as, you know, they created it and they covered up at least the leak.
00:58:34.000In terms of the intentionality for doing it, that is a really dark scenario.
00:58:41.000There are a lot of things in American history that have that same mi-ha-li-ha distinction.
00:58:50.000Do they make it happen or do they let it happen?
00:58:53.000Do they let it happen or do they make it happen?
00:58:55.000And both of them are major scandals that completely change the legitimacy and credibility of Policy changes in response to the crisis, for example.
00:59:06.000Like, you know, take something like Pearl Harbor, right?
00:59:09.000It's been declassified now, the McCollum memo, the Eight Action Plan.
00:59:16.000You know, and this was, you know, written before the bombing, and it was eight ways to get Japan to attack us, because we don't have diplomatic cover to declare war on them, but if...
00:59:28.000If we get them to attack us and we can then spiral that into a war predicate, I mean, the same thing, for example, with the Northwoods memo with pretext to war with Cuba and cooking up all these, hijacking our own planes, sinking our own ships, doing riots on the streets of Miami and then saying that it was the Cuban government behind it.
00:59:49.000Same thing with Vietnam, Gulf of Tonkin.
00:59:52.000Same thing with the weapons of mass destruction predicate for invading Iraq.
00:59:59.000Did we know that that – were we duped and the crime was negligence for letting our national security state believe the New York Times reporting on chemical and biological and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?
01:00:58.000Okay, back to what you were just about to talk about.
01:01:01.000Yeah, so again, there's two simultaneous tasks that I have.
01:01:07.000One is to burn down these rogue institutions that have been weaponized domestically and salt the earth behind them so that these kind of excesses can never come home again.
01:01:18.000The other one is we do need U.S. soft power projection in order to maintain the standard of living and prosperity that we have.
01:01:26.000You know, I give the example all the time, no blob, no pencils.
01:01:30.000You can't make pencils in this country unless you depend on governments in Malaysia and South America and, you know, parts of Africa.
01:01:38.000And if that's the case in, you know, for pencils, now do that exercise with petroleum.
01:01:44.000Now do that exercise with cobalt, for example.
01:01:47.000There was only one operational cobalt mine in all of the U.S., and in 2022, even that mine shut down.
01:01:57.000If the Congolese government decides they don't want to allow you access to cobalt, well, there goes your capacity to create any high technology or renewable battery or anything.
01:02:08.000There is potentially a need for some modified and more honest restrictions on our Department of Dirty Tricks.
01:02:16.000For example, the CIA used to be allowed to assassinate world leaders in the 40s and 50s.
01:02:20.000This is where we got in trouble in Congo with Lumumba or Allende or any number of these.
01:02:26.000And then when those scandals got revealed, there were legislative reforms put in place and executive branch national security reforms put in place to say, OK, you can do dirty work, but not that dirty.
01:02:39.000The same thing needs to be done now for all of these things, many categories of things.
01:02:45.000For example, we just played Internews and the Internews CEO campaigning to governments and corporations and private sector civil society organizations around the world that they need to economically blacklist news sites that operate on social media.
01:03:09.000Lawsuits here in the U.S. like Daily Wire and The Federalist suing the State Department because U.S. news sites are in these advertiser blacklists.
01:03:18.000And to that end, I want to note two things.
01:03:21.000First, if you go to my X feed and you type in the word advertiser or advertisers, and if you need to, you can plug in the word USAID or CEPS, C-E-P-P-S in this.
01:03:31.000And I want to show you that this is not...
01:03:36.000This is not a half-a-billion-dollar-a-year grantee of USAID going rogue and being ideological about this.
01:03:43.000This is top-down U.S. government policy from the White House, and I'll show you the documents on that, to the White House executive branch agencies like USAID and state.
01:03:54.000Okay, if you go to search and you put in the word advertiser, yeah.
01:04:03.000And it could be advertiser or advertisers.
01:04:07.000So click on that left, the left image first.
01:04:12.000Now, we talked about this group, CEPS, last time, you know, in our hit a few months ago.
01:04:19.000CEPS is a program that is basically a joint baby of USAID and the State Department and is implemented by USAID's key operational arm, the National Down for Democracy.
01:04:37.000Remember we played that two-minute video where they were openly saying that the plan is to get foreign governments to pass legal reform, pass laws and regulations to stop the spread of misinformation on U.S. social media websites.
01:04:50.000So USA would not be able to lobby the U.S. government to do that because we have a First Amendment.
01:05:06.000They referenced the word advertiser and advertising in this document 31 times in 97 pages.
01:05:12.000And that was three years before that clip we just saw, how far back in motion this is.
01:05:16.000And I can go back even further to that in 2017 and share clips on that and how this network coordinated the very ad boycotts that Elon is subject to and that brought Facebook and Google to their knees when they folded to advertiser boycotts.
01:05:30.000In order to disrupt the funding and financial incentive, using the same phrases that the internet CEO did, to disinform, attention is turned to the advertising industry, particularly with online advertising.
01:05:43.000So it goes on to say, thus cutting the financial support in the ad tech space would obstruct disinformation actors.
01:05:52.000They're not Americans with running mom and pop shops that depend on their Facebook page to be able to advertise their No, they're reduced to the inhuman disinformation actors from spreading messaging online.
01:06:07.000So the efforts are being made to inform advertisers of the risk, such as the threat to brand safety.
01:06:12.000So this is USAID saying, we've got to talk to these advertisers and say, hey, you know, brand safety is really important to all your brands.
01:06:20.000It would be a shame if you were known for putting ads next to misinformation websites like Daily Wire and The Federalist.
01:06:28.000And that goes on to say, additionally, with this data, organizations, and these are partner organizations, this group, SEPS, runs, you know, is, together with USAID and the State Department, they run a network of hundreds of NGOs around the world that all jointly carry this out.
01:06:45.000It says, the aim is to redirect funding to higher quality news domains and improve regulatory and market environments.
01:06:52.000Regulatory means laws, laws about this, like the EU Digital Services Act.
01:06:58.000So this is a top-down U.S. government plan to financially re-engineer the entire economics of the news industry in order to make it so that if you spread messaging against the state...
01:07:14.000We're against a sensitive policy issue by the state.
01:07:20.000You can't compete with CNN or New York Times or MSNBC. Just like this is what happened to Breitbart, for example, and they got caught up in this web.
01:07:26.000They lost 99% of their advertising revenue.
01:07:30.000And however you feel about Breitbart, these are the plain facts of this in action.
01:07:35.000They were a rising star in the 2016 election.
01:07:37.000Steve Bannon, who was the head of that, went on to be basically the top White House advisor directly.
01:07:42.000They got crushed with 99% of their ad revenue.
01:07:45.000This is why everyone's having to switch to bilking our own citizens to pay for it, because the natural thing advertisers would want to do, a return on investment for putting ads on news sites or social media, they can't do it because they're getting pressure from the government.
01:08:04.000Now, I don't have this, but any members of Congress or DOGE or House or Senate Oversight or White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, I implore you, a few examples of advertiser outreach are included in Annex 3. I don't have that annex.
01:08:21.000It's not available on the USAID website that I downloaded this from before it went down.
01:08:29.000USAID is giving out examples of advertiser outreach.
01:08:33.000How to pressure them in order to do this.
01:08:36.000If you go to the next slide, for example, you'll see they have whole categories of what USAID wants media companies to do, wants regulatory bodies to do, wants all of its other whole society partners to do.
01:08:51.000But here's just the first two entries from this.
01:09:10.000Again, this is our government, funded by our tax dollars, telling foreign governments that they should regulate ad networks to kill the ad revenue of U.S. social media websites and U.S. news entities.
01:09:26.000Like has been caught up in the advertiser database at State and USAID under the Biden administration.
01:09:32.000And there's a million more examples like this.
01:09:34.000But if you want to go to a really crazy one, there's a YouTube video that is still live.
01:10:45.000This is 23 U.S.-funded organizations who are all signatories.
01:10:50.000We're implementers, signatories to the EU's code of practice on disinformation, which if U.S. tech companies don't comply with what the EU, a foreign body, calls disinformation, the penalties for that are losing 6% of U.S. social media companies' global annual revenue or get kicked out of the entire EU market, which is 550 million people.
01:11:11.000So, you know, we go through this, you know, in this here, but if you, so not only are they the signatories to it, Who basically helped craft this thing and put the U.S. government stamp on this.
01:11:25.000But you'll see they're also the implementers.
01:11:28.000They're the ones who are helping define disinformation in the EU that targets U.S. social media companies and U.S. news websites.
01:11:38.000Now this, my foundation just reported as well.
01:11:41.000We got access to a White House interagency working group for Information integrity.
01:11:50.000This is one of these censorship weasel phrases, weasel words.
01:11:54.000Information integrity is what you just saw in that USAID document about redirecting ad revenue from high quality news outlets to low quality news outlets.
01:12:03.000They make that determination by determining high integrity news and low integrity news.
01:12:07.000So basically, if they like you, they call you high integrity.
01:12:10.000If they don't like you, or you're publishing a scandal, or you say, hey, the COVID vaccines might have some problems with them.
01:12:15.000Hey, there might be some issues with, you know, What happened in the 2020 election?
01:12:20.000Hey, you know, what's happening with our Ukraine aid?
01:12:24.000So this phrase, information integrity, is one of these evolving sets of weasel phrases in order to do internet censorship while making it look like it's just an intervention to help you.
01:12:35.000We're making the information integrity ecosystem, you know, better so that we have a healthier information environment.
01:12:42.000Well, this is directly from the, this was centrally coordinated from the White House.
01:12:46.000This working group has 26 U.S. government agencies and programs participating in it.
01:12:52.000They're partnered with 14 outside universities, as well as a whole row of private sector firms.
01:13:01.000USAID is a contributor to this in the Biden administration.
01:13:03.000This started in December 2021, really got the wheels turning in December 2022. But this is from the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy itself, where it's someone from White House.
01:13:15.000The other co-chairs are from ODNI, the Director of National Intelligence, the job that Tulsi Gabbard is currently campaigning for.
01:13:25.000DARPA, the Pentagon's brain, as well as the National Science Foundation, which is the civilian arm that funds all the censorship work.
01:13:32.000But here you have, from the Joe Biden White House itself, engagement with international partners.
01:14:57.000Make them subject to a code of practice on disinformation.
01:15:00.000There is no legislative bill that will pass Congress that will force Facebook to give over the private messages and all the internal algorithm and spread of information to a random U.S. university like, you know...
01:15:22.000The University of Washington or the University of Stanford to a random university that everything you thought was safe and secure on the platform is now being given to a private university because it was crowbarred out of the platform's arms by the government.
01:15:40.000This is the sort of thing the NSA does.
01:15:42.000When the NSA has secret warrants forcing Facebook to compel private information about the platform for the FBI when they're doing an investigation or the NSA when they're doing a national security one.
01:16:18.000Like the people that want to think the government is completely inept and that conspiracies aren't likely because people are not motivated and not very good at their jobs.
01:16:27.000Like the people – same people that want to say the government is terrible.
01:16:51.000And you see how it all synchronizes, just like Wisner's Wurlitzer did from 1948 through the 1970s, when formerly it was supposed to have stopped.
01:17:03.000That's why I say, when it's too dirty for the CIA, you give it to USAID. The CIA used to do this work under covert action.
01:17:12.000But USAID has a couple of cute tricks that make it the central warehouse for all of this.
01:17:18.000And this is why when we started this conversation, I was saying, you know, you ain't seen nothing yet.
01:17:23.000This thing is going to get so deep and it's going to connect to so many institutions that everybody thought, you know.
01:17:30.000Like in the Truman Show, they thought it was their best friend.
01:17:32.000They thought this thing was totally independent and these were authentic conversations you're having with the cashier and it turns out, oops, okay, actually you're a part of this USAID-sponsored network or the state or DOD or Intel-sponsored network because this is fundamentally covert action that's being done.
01:17:48.000And when the CIA, the CIA is subject to restrictions on the kind of covert activity it can do.
01:17:55.000Every covert action the CIA does, which is our organ for organized political warfare, George Kennan himself as well as William Casey and Colby and everyone – the express purpose of it was to carry out the subversive side of the political struggle so George Kennan himself as well as William Casey and Colby and everyone – the express purpose of it was to carry out the subversive side of the political struggle so that we'd
01:18:25.000authentic network within the community.
01:18:27.000But where I'm going with this is USAID has most of the worst scandals of U.S. statecraft and covert action in the past two decades have actually been from USAID rather than CI. And there's a reason for this.
01:18:49.000So after the Big scandals against the Democrats and liberals and anti-war groups in the 60s and 70s.
01:18:59.000And some of this goes back to the 40s itself.
01:19:02.000But every covert action the CIA does has to be authorized by the president in what's called a presidential finding to take that covert action.
01:19:11.000So if the CIA senior leadership were just a rogue cell that's not even at the top of leadership, but just a...
01:19:20.000A rogue desk, a rogue portfolio, a rogue network wants to run a covert action in a region, but they don't think the president will approve?
01:19:28.000Or the president doesn't want to formally sign off on it in case it goes wrong?
01:19:33.000They can walk right over to USAID who can do the exact same thing the CIA does, except they can call it discrete democracy promotion because it's not technically an intelligence agency.
01:19:45.000So it's not technically covert action.
01:19:47.000So it doesn't require executive branch approval or foreknowledge.
01:19:52.000And they've gotten in trouble in these cases in some pretty incredible ways.
01:20:05.000Z-U-N-Z-E-N-E-O. Just on the Wikipedia.
01:20:09.000And then we can go deeper on this if you want.
01:20:12.000This was a scandal during the Obama-USAid era.
01:20:19.000Now, we were running a number of rogue USAid operations in Cuba at the time.
01:20:23.000By the way, I have to say for the record, I'm no fan of the Cuban government.
01:20:28.000And I'm not even weighing in on whether it's the right or wrong thing to do in terms of regime change there or liberating people there from...
01:20:40.000I'm simply showing the American people where your tax dollars are going and how these things are structured in order to systematically fool you and to fool Congress and to fool the White House.
01:21:16.0002009, 2014, that period, the State Department and USAID were gangbusters gung-ho on the promise of Arab Spring-style social media revolutions to topple other governments.
01:21:29.000The Arab Spring was a Facebook revolution and a Twitter revolution.
01:21:32.000USAID pumped $1.2 billion in, you know, and we sponsored these activist groups and these civil society organizations to learn how to use Facebook, learn how to use Twitter, learn how to use...
01:21:44.000Learn how to coordinate street protests so that everyone knows where to go, what street to show up on, what kind of slogans to use in order to create the pro-democracy predicate for it.
01:21:58.000But the problem was, at the time, Cuba did not allow U.S. social media in.
01:22:01.000So they said, hmm, so they're not allowing Twitter in.
01:22:06.000How can we get a Twitter there, but without calling it Twitter, without making it look like it's coming from the U.S.? So what they did is they took the exact same thing as Twitter.
01:22:16.000Same user interface, same like and retweet button.
01:22:19.000Zunzunio is the Cuban slang word for hummingbird.
01:23:02.000And this is the Wikipedia whitewashing, and we can get into the deeper layers of this, but contractors funded by USAID, I should note the main contractor was Creative Associates International, who's a frequent one.
01:23:16.000So they concealed in the budget from Senate, from Congress, from the White House National Security Council, they said that these were humanitarian funds for Pakistan.
01:23:29.000And then they ran that to their contractor.
01:23:34.000to, quote, set up a Byzantine system of front companies using Cayman Islands bank accounts and recruiting unsuspecting business executives who would not be told of the company's ties to the U.S. government, according to the AP. Private companies like Creative Associates International designed the network.
01:23:50.000The idea arose after they were given 500,000 stolen Cuban cell phones that were available on the black market.
01:23:58.000And then you'll see if you scroll down is Okay, the network dubbed the Cuban Twitter reached about 60,000 Cuban subscribers.
01:24:07.000The initiative appears to also have had a surveillance dimension, allowing a, quote, vast database of Cuban Zunzanillo subscribers, including gender, age, and receptiveness in political tendencies, to be built, with the Associated Press noting such data could be used in the future for political purposes.
01:24:21.000By the way, these are all quotes from the internal documents, and we can go through that.
01:24:25.000The data would then be used for micro-targeting efforts towards anti- and pro-government users in Cuba.
01:24:30.000The developers aimed to, at first, use non-controversial content, such as sports and music and hurricanes.
01:24:36.000They used hurricane updates in the internal things.
01:24:40.000Basically, a humanitarian front that if you sign up to this app, you'll know about natural disasters in the area.
01:24:46.000Meanwhile, what was the plan the whole time?
01:24:48.000Once they built up enough subscribers, they would begin to introduce political messages through social bots and encourage dissent in this astroturfing.
01:24:57.000There's a great Guardian write-up on this.
01:24:58.000If you go to Guardian Zunzineo, so you can see how crazy.
01:26:11.000Later, when the network reached a critical mass, perhaps hundreds of thousands, operators would introduce political content aimed at inspiring Cubans to organize, quote, smart mobs.
01:26:20.000Mass gatherings called at a moment's notice that might trigger a Cuban spring, or as one USAID document put it, quote, renegotiate the balance of power between state and society.
01:26:31.000And, you know, so one more thing, if you want to look up on this, you see how they conceal it.
01:26:38.000If you just type in USAID, Zunzanillo, and discrete, or discrete action, and you'll see how USAID, when this scandal popped off, everyone said, what the?
01:27:08.000If something has diplomatic blowback and we don't want U.S. fingerprints on it, we need a formal intelligence agency because there's diplomatic blowback if U.S. fingerprints are revealed.
01:27:17.000So, yeah, just discrete, yeah, like discrete, let's see, if you scroll down, that third one might do, but if you scroll down, if you put discrete action, maybe put discrete action, or discrete covert and action.
01:27:41.000I believe there's a HuffPo one on this.
01:27:49.000U.S. AIDS, so basically, when this, and if you scroll down to the bottom of this, you'll see, if you just control F for the word Senate, you'll see last week, Elon Musk held an X space directly with Senator Joni Ernst, who has been on this crusade to reform U.S. aid accesses.
01:28:06.000And there was a really scandalous moment there where Senator Ernst revealed that she was actually threatened by U.S. aid when she tried to get insight into what they were actually doing.
01:28:18.000Well, if you actually scroll down, if you just do the next one, basically what USAID said is, well, it's discrete democracy promotion.
01:28:24.000So it's, you know, we don't need a presidential finding for it.
01:28:42.000But basically, Senate staffers and everyone, Go on YouTube.
01:28:45.000There was a formal hearing on this for oversight of what happened.
01:28:48.000And what the staffers said is, this is the staffers on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which is supposed to be the thing that reigns in, that gives the American people oversight and accountability for USAID gone rogue.
01:29:00.000And what the Senate staffers overseeing USAID said is, we had no visibility on this entire operation the entire time because USAID told us if they had to tell us what we were doing, people could die.
01:29:14.000This is classic CIA stuff, but the Senate was blocked.
01:29:18.000And I should note, again, when it's too dirty for the CIA, you give it to USAID. This is why these drug operations and these terrorist operations run primarily through USAID rather than directly at the CIA. The Inspector General, just two weeks ago, put out a report.
01:29:33.000This is the first time this has been publicly reported.
01:29:35.000There's been an Inspector General at USAID practically from the day it was born.
01:29:39.000This is what Joni Ernst was complaining about, Senator Joni Ernst was complaining about, which was that how can they get away with this?
01:29:46.000And it's because of the inspector general who's supposed to hold the agency to account from the inside, but it's an independent agency, so there's limited oversight from the outside.
01:29:53.000If you have a rogue inspector general, they keep the whole op in-house.
01:29:57.000Don't need to tell the executive branch, don't need to tell the Senate or Congress.
01:30:00.000Run it just like an Ali North, Iran-Contra-style, self-sustained, stand-alone, off-the-shelf private enterprise to run covert action on taxpayer dime.
01:30:09.000But not have it go through the formal approval channels.
01:30:13.000Well, so basically, what they were doing here, what the OIG report, the Inspector General report, just published, and the best article on this with the link to it is John Solomon's Just the News, published this, a write-up on it, as well as the source document from the OIG's office.
01:30:33.000We're just now learning this two weeks ago.
01:30:36.000Despite them doing this activity for 30 years, it turns out there's a get out of sponsoring terrorism free card at USAID, which is that USAID cannot directly provide funding to terrorist groups, but their contractors are not required.
01:30:56.000Under the grant agreements to go through those OFAC style, those counterterrorism financing.
01:31:01.000If a bank did it, you would go directly to jail.
01:31:30.000Paramilitary terrorist groups are extremely useful to U.S. statecraft for DOD special operations work as well as for political destabilization work.
01:32:16.000If you type in Zbigniew Brzezinski, that's going to be a wallop one to spell live, but if you just do Zbigniew Brzezinski, you can go to YouTube and type in Mujahideen, and you'll watch him airdrop out of the helicopter and make the exact same speech that John McCain made to the Azov Battalion,
01:32:39.000The extremist paramilitary faction of Ukraine that was banned from getting federal funding in 2014 when the Democrats said they're all Nazis, but now they're all sponsored and get standing ovations in the halls of Congress because now they are geopolitically useful to capacity build. but now they're all sponsored and get standing ovations in So here you go.
01:34:16.000Now, Jamie, if you can pull up one thing, and I'm going to just talk a little bit more about this case while you're pulling this up.
01:34:21.000You can find this, I believe, on my X feed.
01:34:24.000I've posted this clip, but you could also find it searching either X or YouTube, of John McCain.
01:34:30.000And I believe he was with Lindsey Graham making that exact same speech using the same language in, I believe it was 2016 or 24, I believe it was 2016, around then, to the Azov Battalion folks in Ukraine and to the paramilitaries.
01:34:51.000But let me stick on the Mujahideen thing for a second, because this gets back to this fundamental structuring.
01:34:57.000Why USAID is allowed to, is tasked with this, there's a bigger budget than the CIA USAID does.
01:35:02.000It capacity builds the assets that CIA liaises with.
01:35:06.000But if the assets aren't there, CIA has no one to tell what to do.
01:35:09.000None of their agents on the ground or case officers can build an action plan unless there are assets on the ground that have money, that have training, that have food, that have shelter, and USAID steps in to build, to put the chess pieces on the board that That the CIA can play with.
01:35:30.000Interestingly, I should note that the CIA gets a copy of every grant that the National Endowment for Democracy makes.
01:35:36.000This was published in the New York Times in a piece called Missionaries for Global Pluralism about USAID's top operational arm, NED. But the point I'm getting at here is why were we funding terrorists in the 1970s and 80s?
01:35:53.000Well, according to Our National Security Advisor is a big new Brzezinski, the grand chessboard, you know, this celebrated apex predator of American statecraft.
01:36:06.000You know, I think he had a quote that was something like, well, you know, what is arming a few, you know, Islamic fundamentalists matter when weighed against the history of America winning the Cold War?
01:36:17.000You know, that this fundamentally destabilized and bogged the Soviet Union down.
01:36:24.000But also, how do we fund the Mujahideen?
01:36:26.000Well, the Mujahideen is in Afghanistan.
01:36:29.000They were before they became Al-Qaeda and ISIS. What asset does Afghanistan have to play with in order to fund its war network, its paramilitary network?
01:36:42.000They happen to sit on the, you know...
01:36:45.000Basically, the poppy fields that, when exploited, comprise 95% of the world's heroin, if you export that.
01:36:52.000And so the CIA-backed, State Department, USAID-backed, and we can go through receipts of USAID doing the same, you know, drugs for cash for guns work in the 1960s, practically from the day it was born.
01:37:08.000What they were doing is they were taking those poppy harvests, and then they were depositing them in CIA proprietary banks like BCCI, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International.
01:37:18.000Everyone can look this up, or if you want to plug in CIA, BCCI, and look at all the mainstream media reporting on this, it was a major, major, major scandal.
01:37:27.000It had become one of the world's largest banks, and it was basically a CIA front, and it was a Pakistani frontman for this, and it was...
01:37:36.000Converting, effectively washing the proceeds of these drugs so that the Mujahideen could buy arms while the Pakistani militants were being funded and trained in Pakistan, and then they'd go to Afghanistan and conduct military operations against the Russians, who are stated.
01:38:26.000I don't think it was directly overseeing USAID, but they published a whole report on this, that basically USAID was keeping the poppy production alive by doing what was said to be irrigation and agricultural sustainability, but targeting it in the heroin network.
01:38:47.000And by the way, remember the Taliban banned poppy production.
01:38:53.000And it was after that ban that Afghanistan became the source of 95% of the world's heroin.
01:39:05.000I want to show you something now from an adjacent USAID network group, which is funded 100% by the U.S. government, created by an act of Congress.
01:39:15.000If you go to my X account right now and you type in...
01:39:18.000U.S. Institute for Peace, or you just put in Institute Peace, you'll see this.
01:39:28.000This organization gets $56 million a year from U.S. taxpayers.
01:39:33.000Its office is right next to the U.S. State Department.
01:40:12.000The Taliban's successful opium ban is bad for Afghans and the world.
01:40:17.000The ban is not a counter-narcotics victory and will have negative economic and humanitarian consequences potentially leading to a refugee crisis.
01:40:26.000How could they say it's not a counter-narcotics victory?
01:40:52.000You hear about all these terrorist networks?
01:40:56.000Think about what just happened in Syria with ISIS. Actually, before I go to that, let's get back to ISIS and the difference between the ISIS foreign policy for the Obama-Biden world and Trump.
01:41:21.000U.S. Institute of Peace is seeking $56 million from U.S. taxpayers to promote global peace and security, don't you know, by keeping the 95% of the world's heroin flowing in accordance with its congressional mandate.
01:41:36.000And then, you know, and then I think I have the next screenshot is just showing.
01:41:40.000Do they give any examples of how it would promote peace to keep the opium flowing?
01:41:47.000Because the way they're saying it, it's like this Orwellian speak.
01:41:51.000Well, yeah, you always have to invert it, right?
01:41:56.000For example, U.S. Institute of Peace was doing the same thing with the Albanian drug networks that formed a paramilitary fighting squad against the Yugoslavian government as we were overthrowing Slobodan Milosevic.
01:42:25.000The holy hand grenade of Antioch from Monty Python.
01:42:31.000Nothing really gets to the heart of what USAID truly is than the image of John Bolton proudly declaring that he was the head of policy and budget at USAID and his farewell gift from the agency was a golden hand grenade with his name carved on it.
01:42:51.000But, you know, what he said, you know, in that Piers Morgan interview, and I don't know if we can play it if you want.
01:43:06.000We're fighting a number of ghosts from our past here.
01:43:10.000You know, a lot of Republicans are fine with fighting Woodrow Wilson's ghost.
01:43:14.000He was the one who, you know, said, make the world safe for democracy and gave us this.
01:43:18.000Doctrinal blank check to do soft power infiltration work against every plot of dirt and every foreign citizen in every foreign country on planet Earth gives us the blank check to be a global empire.
01:43:32.000A lot of people say, okay, we're going to focus on us.
01:43:36.000But you're also fighting the ghost of Ronald Reagan.
01:43:38.000I should note that USAID is actually in its headquarters in D.C. is in the Ronald Reagan building.
01:43:45.000USAID and Ronald Reagan played Played the key role in fundamentally creating the restructured blob that we live under after the scandals of the 1970s that the CIA was busted in.
01:44:00.000Church Committee hearings, heart attack gun, Mockingbird, MKUltra, you know, assassinations, all that stuff.
01:44:09.000Jimmy Carter got into power, you know, 1976. It carried out the harshest destruction of CIA operations capacity and funding ever in American history.
01:44:20.000He laid off 30% of the entire CIA operations division in a single day.
01:44:23.000That was called the Halloween massacre.
01:44:26.000Then the Iran hostage situation pops off in, you know, 79. The national security state argues this wouldn't have happened unless the CIA had its old powers back.
01:44:37.000Democrats still hated the CIA at that time because it had been directly interfering in their own domestic politics and trying to thwart factions of them just like they're doing today against the MAGA movement side of the Republican Party.
01:44:50.000You know, the universal thump has been passed around in that way.
01:44:53.000But so they couldn't get a legislative bill to do this.
01:44:56.000So what they did is they they restructured the the intelligence apparatus, the covert action capacities and the way our statecraft is done through USAID and the creation of the National Endowment for Democracy to take the baton from what the CIA used to do.
01:45:13.000But the whole point of it is in tandem.
01:45:15.000Now, that's why you have these John Bolton at USAID. This is why you have Liz Cheney at USAID. And this is what we're fighting against as we're reforming this.
01:45:24.000It's not really a partisan issue as I see it, even though, you know, statistics show there's disproportionate Democrat beneficiaries.
01:45:29.000But, you know, the real issue is the MAGA movement is fighting the ghost of Ronald Reagan past.
01:45:37.000The reason Republicans loved USA, John Bolton-types, Liz Cheney-types love it, is because this was our muscle for U.S. Chamber of Commerce multinational companies to pad their profits because ExxonMobil,
01:45:53.000how many hundreds of billions in the aggregate has ExxonMobil and Chevron benefited from U.S. regime change efforts or U.S. We saw that just, You know, a few years ago, as we just went over with Joe Biden doing the same thing for Burisma.
01:46:13.000But so the big the big multinational businesses love this and it was sold as trickle down economics.
01:46:21.000This is the Reaganite sort of Reaganomics and why it's attached to the hip with USAID and why this is something we need to keep in mind as we reform is that the idea was is, look, we do some dirty work abroad.
01:46:32.000But at the end of the day, that pads profits and revenue for U.S. companies.
01:46:37.000Those U.S. companies employ U.S. citizens.
01:46:41.000And they build manufacturing plants in Ohio and in Colorado and New Mexico.
01:46:47.000And that's what allows you to have 401ks.
01:46:49.000That's what allows you to have discretionary income.
01:46:51.000That's what allows you to afford higher education and houses and a retirement plan.
01:47:04.000These same multinational corporations that the Reaganite trickle-down economics use the blob to support the Chamber of Commerce, they don't hire their labor here anymore.
01:47:18.000They don't have their manufacturing facilities here anymore.
01:47:22.000We're not the primary export market for this.
01:47:24.000So you have U.S. State Department and USAID. You know, the thicket of government officials.
01:47:45.000Equity holders in these corporations, foreign currency speculators, you know, banking on the activity in the region, you know, the banks, financial firms, and political insiders.
01:47:56.000And so it doesn't actually get down to the people anymore.
01:48:00.000If you're going to keep using this, in order to qualify, you have to have a certain minimal threshold of reinvestment.
01:48:10.000In America, which I'm very happy that Trump is doing by trying to bring all this investment.
01:48:14.000You know, we saw with Japan and other countries, he's trying to get them double, triple their commitments.
01:48:18.000We need to demand that of our own corporations, if they want to have a meeting with the Secretary of State or the head of the Central Intelligence Agency, like Pepsi did in the 1970s when we overthrew that, if you want to go there.
01:49:04.000We should do a touchdown dance on this.
01:49:06.000This is the first serious time in American history that the foreign policy establishment has had to be accountable to the people who pay for it.
01:49:16.000Even the church committee didn't cause the entire shutdown of a federal agency.
01:49:36.000It went from 14,000 down to 290. This is in every way, symbolically, operationally, financially, the hardest blow the blob has ever had to suffer in terms of accountability.
01:49:51.000And it's only getting way deeper from here.
01:49:58.000Well, that's why we need to create a legacy and a pipeline of people to carry on these reforms, which is part of my personal struggle here, which is that most people, 99% of people who got involved with the MAGA movement, did it because they care about the domestic.
01:50:19.000Their school curriculum is woke because the police allow crime in the streets and the infrastructure is crumbling and there's corruption everywhere and no one's held accountable.
01:50:35.000They don't think about Who's on the U.S.-Izerbaijan Chamber of Commerce and, you know, how, if they're living in Louisiana or Houston or, you know, Oklahoma, that actually their jobs at ExxonMobil and Chevron sort of depend on these, you know, this strong-arm diplomacy that we have with Persian Gulf countries.
01:50:57.000They don't care about the Persian Gulf.
01:51:05.000In order to understand the world they live in, in order to understand what's driving the world around them, in order to understand the actual true face of the characters they thought they've known, they're going to have to become international-minded.
01:51:19.000They're going to have to become versed in the interplay between the domestic and the international.
01:51:25.000One of the problems when I started out this journey in 2016 is there was no MAGA foreign policy intelligentsia.
01:52:01.000These are formal grant outlays to real organizations run by real people with real names and addresses.
01:52:10.000You'd have to explain, for example, that the Pentagon does an awful lot more than kinetic military activity.
01:52:23.000For example, this is what's coming next.
01:52:26.000President Trump tasked Elon Musk was sick and the doge dogs on the Pentagon.
01:52:34.000And depending on how you measure it, the size of waste, fraud, and abuse of the Pentagon ranges from a couple hundred billion.
01:52:43.000They are the biggest federal agency in all of this.
01:52:45.000They have a $900 billion budget compared to only $44 billion at USAID. And even less at CIA. But, you know, Yahoo Finance published this a couple years ago, a $35 trillion black hole.
01:52:59.000If you want to pull up that receipt on screen, just so I don't look like I'm saying this directly myself, but just type in $35 trillion Pentagon black hole.
01:53:08.000That's larger than the entire national debt, just the amount of...
01:53:14.000Just a black hole in the size of the accounting budget of the Pentagon over the years from its continual failing.
01:53:29.000When America was born in 1789 in the first meeting of Congress, there were only three agencies that were created in the beginning of time, shall we say.
01:53:38.000The first act of Congress was to create the Department of State, the Department of Treasury, And the Department of War.
01:53:45.000And the Defense Department became the Department of War in 19...
01:53:50.000The Department of War became the Department of Defense in 1948. What people...
01:53:56.000Even now, they're seeing these USAID scandals with funding to the Democrats or funding to some of these blob internationalist Republicans or funding these media institutions.
01:54:08.000You ain't seen nothing yet when you get to the Pentagon stuff because USAID... It was created, effectively, in part to assist Pentagon activity under humanitarian front.
01:54:21.000And I talk about this a lot, but I feel the point is underappreciated, so this is sort of a good moment to go over it.
01:54:30.000So everyone, you know, they say, you know, JFK is a martyred figure.
01:54:36.000And in the news, again, this week, obviously, with, you know, the new trove of documents and whatnot.
01:54:42.000Trump's EO around the source of his assassination.
01:54:46.000But the fact that JFK created USAID by executive order in 1961, and he is known and loved as a martyred figure, regardless of who in the end killed him, has given a sort of public imprimatur on USAID as it used to be called.
01:55:10.000You know, in order to try to make clear that it was not, you know, an aid organization.
01:55:17.000But now almost, you know, even that parlance has dropped off as they need to defend it more and more.
01:55:23.000But so they think, okay, you know, JFK martyred a deeply beloved figure.
01:55:28.000He created USAID. It was sort of out of the kindness of his heart.
01:56:07.000And the problems that we were fighting against were not the kind of things that, you know, you'd have the political predicate after a lot of the disasters of the Korean War in 1950 and the international blowback to having formal DOD boats on the grounds.
01:56:22.000What he believed was vital and necessary to capacity build and supercharge was a...
01:56:31.000A paramilitary covert capacity for DOD in the warfighting space that the CIA had at that point in the political war space.
01:56:39.000And this is done through the U.S. Special Forces and through some of its sub-branches, which are psychological operations, civil-military affairs.
01:56:54.000But basically, civil-military is when in order to achieve the military objective, The thing that needs to be done is actually something of the civil layer.
01:57:04.000Like, for example, in order to win the war against Russia right now, NATO believes we need to build the single largest military base in all of NATO on the Black Sea coast of Romania that points straight out in a line at Crimea and move this base that's under construction is 100% bigger than the biggest current NATO base in Europe.
01:57:33.000There are fighter jets and drones being moved from Germany to Romania as we are building this base that will be the point of source projection against the Black Sea Navy of Russia, against Crimea in order to turn the tide.
01:57:50.000Well, that's a military operation, right?
01:57:54.000The NATO military base against the Russian forces in Crimea.
01:58:00.000But what is actually the most important strategic objective for the military?
01:58:07.000See, there's an election going on in Romania right now.
01:58:09.000You may have heard about this, the canceled election in Romania with the Georgia skew, this right-wing populist figure who has pledged neutrality in the war.
01:58:18.000He doesn't want to antagonize America, but he doesn't want to kill the Russians.
01:58:23.000He wants to basically back NATO off, and he doesn't want to allow this military base to beat.
01:58:28.000Well, that is a civil decision by the elected government of Romania, decided by the hearts and minds of the voters of the Romanian people.
01:58:39.000But that civil action will either, in NATO's eyes, win the war or lose the war.
01:58:50.000It would kind of be something of a diplomatic incident, shall we say, if NATO rolled in and did Slobodan Milosevic-style airstrifes against the Romanian parliament building and rolled into the capital with tanks and troops just because the president was responding to the damn correct will of the people.
01:59:19.000This is where you get U.S. aid in this, as well as U.S. aid for psychological operations.
01:59:23.000For example, I've been playing this clip for months now and showing this U.S. military document from the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center.
01:59:36.000I mean, the special forces, the psychological operations and civil military.
01:59:41.000Training and Recruiting Center at Fort Bragg, the center of our psychological operations.
01:59:46.000It's called the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Training Center.
01:59:57.000So, for example, I've been showing a military document from the Biden-Mark Milley era published in 2021 about how to plan race riots in Africa in order to stop the construction of a port by a foreign government that would allow their force projection into the Atlantic Ocean.
02:00:14.000In a sample scenario where the U.S. ambassador tries to get this West African country on the Atlantic coast there to cancel the port construction in partnership with the foreign government, but that government doesn't want to do it.
02:00:28.000And so they refuse the U.S. ambassador.
02:00:40.000I've posted a link a million times and all the screenshots.
02:00:43.000But they show the role of Special Forces.
02:00:46.000They're pitching this basically to get more grant funding.
02:00:50.000That we can help in near-peer competition actually with foreign countries by having Special Forces destabilize the country.
02:00:58.000Inflame racial tensions between the Africans who work in the factories and the business owners of the foreign government in the local regional development cause mass walkouts and strikes.
02:01:11.000But if you want to pull this on screen, I can show you these two things.
02:01:16.000If you just go to my X feed and you can type in rent rights or just type in USAID job fairs.
02:01:44.000And what they propose is that as they are inflaming these racial tensions to cause these riots and boycotts of the local businesses, that USAID would play the role of swooping in.
02:02:11.000I'm not trying to cause an international incident by saying this.
02:02:13.000I'm just trying to get the American people insight into why you are going to find USAID fingerprints all over Pentagon operations.
02:02:21.000And no one's going to have known about it before because...
02:02:24.000You park it at USAID. The military doesn't have to tell the president what they're actually doing.
02:02:29.000This is why, for example, you had the fight over ISIS. We can get to this right after this, but we'll get to how the U.S. military duped Trump through these things, constantly playing shell games with the numbers in Syria, for example.
02:02:44.000You'll see what the Information Warfare Center did is they saw a sign along the road for this port construction.
02:02:52.000And they say the plan is we need to buy the ambassador more time because they're going to close on it, and we need to give the ambassador more leverage at the negotiating table.
02:03:02.000So this is a support operation for the State Department in order to secure an agreement from the African government to shut the port down.
02:03:09.000But right now, the ambassador doesn't have the smoke, doesn't have the clout, doesn't have the leverage.
02:03:14.000So the military will come in and provide that leverage.
02:03:18.000By destabilizing the country, inflaming longstanding friction between the African workers and the foreign corporations, popping off protests and then using their swarm army of internews, USAID, you know, the social media campaign and media articles that are led actually in the background by the Information Warfare Center at Fort Bragg to illuminate the controversy to a global audience, right?
02:03:42.000This caused international financial pressure and sanctions on them.
02:03:47.000And here we go, USAID. So this is, again, U.S. military document, 2021, Biden administration.
02:03:56.000To make sure this thing really pops off, USAID is going to swoop in, along with other NGOs, to establish job fairs near the protest areas, so that when these racially inflamed African workers...
02:04:14.000They don't need to worry about losing their careers at those companies they just went on strike at, because they're going to be on U.S. taxpayer dime, baby.
02:04:23.000It's going to be U.S. truck drivers, median income, you know, $45,000, $50,000 a year, paying for striking African workers to get no-show jobs as a part of a race riot operation for the U.S. Special Forces to give leverage to the U.S. State Department ambassador in order to stop a random...
02:04:48.000And this is where, I don't know if you want to take a breather and pivot to something lighter, but this is where it starts to get really, really nasty.
02:04:56.000Because there are layers to this that I see, but because I'm not an insider, I don't have access to the inside government documents, I don't have subpoena power at Congress, someone has to get an answer on some of these someone has to get an answer on some of these questions.
02:05:18.000And I was going to talk about the connection of this to, you know, the rental riots.
02:05:26.000I should say, formally, we don't know that the rental riots, formerly the riots that popped off in this country in 2020, and that I see as one of the main ways that the blob may be able to regain leverage here in the United States in the years ahead.
02:05:42.000They're trying to mend—they're a little bit impotent right now because their coalition is very fractured.
02:05:49.000Many of the stalwart international Republicans have gone full MAGA, so the bipartisan consensus on this is weaker than it was.
02:05:57.000And then probably most difficult for them, there's a bit of a civil war happening even within the Democrat Party because of all the bad blood between the Biden camp and the Kamala Harris camp.
02:06:09.000You need a unified network on the Democrat side to pull this off.
02:06:14.000You know, Joe Biden was soft-couped out of office by his own party.
02:06:19.000And you have half the Democrat party who was in...
02:06:22.000It was a very contentious, long-drawn-out process.
02:06:26.000Joe Biden put on a MAGA hat, actually asked one of those union workers, I believe he was, one of those people at that event, for the MAGA hat to put on.
02:06:43.000And when Joe Biden walked out at that White House press conference to announce that Donald Trump had won the election the day before, people go back and watch that.
02:06:54.000I have never seen Joe Biden smile harder in my life.
02:06:57.000When he had Trump in the White House and smiling and laughing, he looked like he was having a good old time.
02:07:06.000Welcoming Trump in 2016. Right, right.
02:07:10.000And Obama was backing the Kamala, you know, sort of, you know, ouster of Biden.
02:07:15.000So when they were all united in this bipartisan, you know, blob network and the Democrats were completely cohesive and a full half of the Republican Party was internationalist, you could get this buy-in, for example, it was easy to synchronize the U.S. Chamber of Commerce with.
02:07:37.000The AFL-CIO with the Union Street muscle.
02:07:41.000The way, so USAID, you know, just back at this whole USAID Truman show, and I didn't, like, I say this ever, there is no, nothing you can tell me that is not affected by the USAID Truman show.
02:07:56.000You want to talk about the music industry?
02:07:57.000I can, I tell you about USAID's complete infiltration of the music industry.
02:08:05.000Maybe I can show receipts on screen here for a second.
02:08:11.000We'll start with an easy one because it's directly connected to what we were just talking about with Zunzineo in Cuba.
02:08:17.000So if you go to this Max Blumenthal's outlet, it's called Grayzone News.
02:08:21.000And again, I'm not trying to beat up on our foreign policy establishments.
02:08:25.000Foreign policy on Cuba are way into that, but this is how the sauce is made, and you're going to see a million examples of this in a second, of this.
02:08:32.000But go to, just type in on Google, or any search engine, Greyzone News, Cuban Rappers, USAID. And you'll see this, and these are basically sponsored hip-hop artists.
02:08:51.000To do revolutionary hip-hop, to appeal to the Afro-Cuban community, who the National Endowment for Democracy had identified as being a demographic.
02:09:04.000See, every time we do these operations, USAID, the NGOs, they'll submit what they call baseline assessment or strategic assessment to the State Department, where they will do a demographic segmentation.
02:09:19.000Of all the demographics in the country, who's pro-us, who's against us in the region, and then they will micro-target the grants in the capacity building to capacity build the burning ember to turn it into a flame.
02:09:35.000So, for example, and just so you see this, you can go to the CIA World Factbook right now.
02:09:41.000You can type in a random country like Burma on just CIA World.
02:09:46.000World Book Burma, you'll see that we keep meticulous tabs on the racial distribution, the religious distribution, the gender distribution, the heteronormative versus LGBT one.
02:10:01.000This is why USAID and NED were backing and supporting Pussy Riot in Russia to do these sort of insane, sort of feminist, LGBTQ-style left-wing...
02:10:24.000And go to YouTube and look at their music videos if you want to see what state-sponsored music looks like.
02:10:30.000But in the Cuba case, you know, they were, NED had published this document.
02:10:36.000NED is the operations arm of USAID, and they get a ton of their grants through it, and they're a companion star.
02:10:42.000Said, okay, all of our previous attempts to overthrow the Cuban government failed.
02:10:45.000Well, you know, something like 60% of the Cuban population is Afro-Cuban.
02:10:50.000They're radically underrepresented in the Cuban government.
02:10:52.000They have their own grievances around policing issues and around representation issues.
02:10:57.000And they even noted in the document that that demographic, and I'm not saying this, Ned is saying this, in Cuba is disproportionately drawn to drugs.
02:11:07.000Influenced by rap music and suffers from overwhelming amount of youth unemployment.
02:11:14.000And so capacity building those desperate networks, capacity building the anti-addiction programs will get you into the drug networks.
02:11:25.000Doing job fairs and getting these people on U.S. payroll will alleviate their pain points on employment.
02:11:33.000They're predominantly listening to hip-hop, so we need to work with, I believe the group is the San Isidro, and I'm not beating up on it.
02:11:39.000You can make an argument that, I'm not weighing in on whether this is good or bad, but the American people have to know this because this gets played on their radio stations in Miami.
02:11:48.000This gets, you know, art testimonials to this are at, you know, Art Basel in Miami every year.
02:11:58.000This is the Truman Show around you, but you can read that Grey Zone report, for example, I'll write up on that, on all the USAID funding, all the meetings with the U.S. ambassador and, you know, Western Hemisphere Assistant Secretary folks, you know, how the whole thing was.
02:12:14.000You can talk about musicians like Dua Lipa.
02:12:40.000That's the same organization that we played on screen during our first conversation where we went over the Atlanta Council holding up I Call Bullshit placards and looking at Trump tweets and training Hundreds of journalists for how to flag and censor him saying tweets like witch hunt or Brexit slogans for cheaper health care.
02:13:05.000The Atlantic Council, who has seven CIA directors, seven former number one heads of the CIA on its board of directors, that gets direct grant funding from the Pentagon, the State Department, and USAID. The Atlantic Council, who had a formal partnership agreement with Burisma, I should note, signed on January 19th.
02:13:25.0002017, one day before Trump became the U.S. president.
02:13:29.000Why the heck would they give Dua Lipa a, you know, distinguished leadership award?
02:13:34.000Well, you know, she's ethnic Albanian and has activities in Kosovo.
02:13:38.000But I'm not trying to cause an international incident when I say this.
02:13:40.000But, you know, her messaging around the post-Yugoslavia breakup Balkan states, and a lot of the geopolitics around Serbia right now, the U.S. State Department has been pursuing, as well as U.S. aid, and to whatever extent you may or may not be there, you know, the civil military arm of the U.S. military.
02:14:09.000I believe, and I'm not privy to any inside information, this is my reading of the tea leaves that I've been laying out before everyone, is...
02:14:19.000Is not very happy with the government of Serbia, and they want that Serbian government, people in the Serbian government arrested, indicted, and put through a process that they call transitional justice.
02:14:32.000And transitional justice is the idea that when you transition a country, when you overthrow its government, or you pump up your favorite political party to win the election, it transitions from autocracy to democracy, or it transitions from We have a whole field of scholarship at the State Department,
02:15:00.000at USAID, and that is carried out in covert ways through civil military, DOD, and at CIA called Transitional Justice, which is weaponizing the Justice Department and creating the criminal predicate to eliminate your political adversaries you just narrowly vanquished in a...
02:15:17.000Nail-biter vote in order to stop them from ever rising to power again.
02:15:23.000And I'll show you some great receipts on this so that everyone can see this with their own eyes.
02:15:26.000But before I do, let me just flesh this out for a second, which is that every regional desk at the State Department or in the USAID portfolio has to compete every year for their budget.
02:15:37.000They have to fight for their lives because the people who are at the regional desks around Kyrgyzstan and, you know...
02:15:46.000Georgia, Moldova, Latvia, Lithuania, they're competing in the budget for what's going to Western Hemisphere, what's going to Argentina and Brazil and Colombia, and they're competing against subterranean Africa.
02:15:57.000So the cheaper it is to manage the political vassalage of a country, the better.
02:16:01.000They may have had to ask for a lot more money in the budget, one-off in election year, to run that money through Democracy International or through SEPs or any number of USAID or NED programs.
02:16:13.000To fund the political party they want to win.
02:16:18.000They were only given that money because it was a specialty.
02:16:20.000They're not necessarily going to be able to get that the next time around.
02:16:23.000And they'll be able to spend money on other soft power goals in the region if they don't have to worry about the other party rising again or doing what Trump just did, you know, winning, then losing, then winning again.
02:16:35.000And so transitional justice is a whole field at state and in the NGO plex to To make it cheap to manage the course of and result of foreign elections by making sure anyone who's a serious challenger to you ends up in jail.
02:16:50.000And I'm just going to show you something because it's now in the news.
02:16:53.000Elon Musk this week tweeted out about a horrible situation where someone from the PIS, the Law and Justice Party in Poland, I believe is now facing arrest for clicking the like button on a social media post.
02:17:15.000But the fact is, Poland plays, and I've been saying this forever, and this may be too far afield for the narrow topic of discussion today, but Poland plays an absolutely huge, probably the linchpin role in all of Eastern Europe with everything that's happening with Ukraine.
02:17:32.000Because the whole play was to kill Russian gas.
02:17:36.000And then you need an alternative gas supply into Europe to offset that, and there's only two ways to do that.
02:17:41.000One is Ukraine builds up its own gas infrastructure and exploits its endogenous hydrocarbon supply, which it has a lot of.
02:17:50.000It's the third largest in Europe, but it's underexploited.
02:17:53.000Unfortunately, they can't do that right now because Russia reconquered that exact territory in eastern Ukraine that those sit on.
02:17:58.000The only other way to do that is through exporting.
02:18:03.000LNG, you know, liquefied natural gas, from North America, you know, from the Permian Basin or whatnot in Houston, freezing it, shipping it, you know, 7,000 miles across the Atlantic up through the Baltic Straits, through these newly built, you know, routing terminals into Poland and the terminals there, and then routing it there into Slovakia and Ukraine and Central Europe and on from there.
02:18:29.000Doesn't this bring us back to what Mike Johnson said?
02:18:33.000Biden had signed an executive order that he hadn't read about liquid natural gas.
02:18:38.000Yeah, well, that's interesting because that has to do also with the economics of it.
02:18:42.000You know, you don't want too much supply because then the profits of the corporations, you know, they're selling it for less margin as the supply goes up.
02:18:53.000The major one in the energy space, but it's much more expensive for LNG. That process, liquefaction, transport, deliquefaction, transport back is way cheaper than just taking it out of the ground and putting it in a pipeline straight to the customer.
02:19:07.000So the European countries don't want to do this, or at least until they were strong-armed.
02:19:13.000And what the State Department and NATO have done is they've selectively bred and financed and politically supported All of the European political parties and candidates who have vowed to basically go forward with this plan and put their country through an energy diversification policy and buy this expensive LNG, which has skyrocketed, as you know, the profits of many of these Western exporters.
02:19:53.000This is provocative because this is in tandem with the plan to cut off Gazprom.
02:19:57.000Also, we don't want to become a political vassal state of the U.S. or the U.K. or NATO. And this is what was starting to happen with the Law and Order, you know, Law and Justice PIS Party in Poland.
02:20:09.000And so this whole network, the Atlantic Council Network, was backing to the full hilt Donald Tusk, who became the Prime Minister of Poland in, I believe, December 2023. With that context, Jamie, can you pull on screen?
02:20:25.000I've been posting this for months, but this is very...
02:20:28.000Everyone should see this with their own eyes.
02:20:29.000Because this gets back to OCCRP and state-sponsored media to prosecute people.
02:20:34.000This gets back to, you know, the role of the USAID capacity building the networks around prosecutors here in the U.S., the USAID capacity building the prosecutor networks, and we should get to that on Brazil.
02:20:49.000But let's – can we start here with Poland?
02:20:52.000We kind of, like, bypassed the whole music industry.
02:21:00.000Look up the U.S. Music Diplomacy Program.
02:21:03.000So this is, but this is all music overseas or music domestically as well?
02:21:09.000Well, that's the issue is because there's this interplay.
02:21:11.000So first of all, getting back to the Dua Lipa Atlantic Council thing.
02:21:14.000So again, essentially, you know, she's calling out human rights abuses from, you know, these...
02:21:20.000Balkan governments, you know, with a family pedigree and popularity in Kosovo and other places that are hugely in the geopolitical crosshairs right now.
02:21:30.000And so, and I'm not saying whether it's good or bad.
02:21:33.000Again, I'm not even weighing in on, you know, the humanitarian abuses or whatnot.
02:21:37.000What I'm saying is, it's music as an instrument of statecraft.
02:21:42.000Dua Lipa, this is the U.S. military, the State Department, U.S. aid, seven CIA directors, the Burisma networks.
02:21:49.000Because, you know, she's got tens of millions of social media followers, people, you know, who are diehard follower concerts.
02:21:57.000And her public support for calling out human rights abuses by, you know, these Balkan governments that are in the crosshairs of the U.S. State Department makes it easier to prosecute those political figures, just like with the OCCRP publishing hit pieces for hire.
02:22:13.000These people become less popular because the people who love Dua Lipa...
02:22:18.000We have to sort of hate those U.S. State Department enemies.
02:22:25.000The State Department was doing this with black African jazz musicians to win the soft power war against the Soviet Union in Africa in the 1940s.
02:22:33.000The State Department was working with Louis Armstrong and most of the major jazz musicians because the Soviet Union was making the argument in these newly sovereign, independent African countries who had to pick a side in the great power competition that America was racist.
02:22:49.000America discriminates against African Americans.
02:22:52.000There's all this, you know, upward mobility limitations.
02:22:56.000There's no legal – you're underrepresented in the government.
02:23:01.000The Marxist, socialist, egalitarian concept of communism will liberate you from the racial inequalities of Western – Imperialist capitalism.
02:23:14.000And so, to offset that, we did jazz diplomacy.
02:23:17.000You can pull this up on screen as I talk about this, Jamie, just so you see.
02:24:51.000And so to combat that, the CIA-backed front group – and this is all public and known.
02:24:56.000It's called the Congress for Cultural Freedom – sponsored American classical musicians to travel abroad there, sponsored classical music concerts in Rome and in Paris and in Germany in order to pump up and sponsor sponsored classical music concerts in Rome and in Paris and in Germany in order to pump up and sponsor and have our classical musicians be more predominant in distribution or basically dominate at the time where
02:25:29.000We did the same thing with rock music.
02:25:32.000For example, I mentioned Pussy Riot and Pussy Riot being backed by USAID and NED in 2012 in Russia.
02:25:40.000But also, look at the German rock music scene.
02:25:46.000We were sponsoring these protest rock anthems against authoritarian governments.
02:25:53.000All over the Iron Curtain, you know, throughout the Cold War.
02:25:58.000And in fact, we were sponsoring them basically right up against the side of the Berlin Wall as we were taking it down.
02:26:03.000Everyone right now can go on YouTube.com and watch the documentary called Taking Down a Dictator, which is an in-depth pro-regime change.
02:26:21.000Where it has in-depth interviews with all of the architects of the color revolution against Slobodan Milosevic in the 1990s, working with a group called OTPOR, which received $72 million of U.S. taxpayer funding in order to pump up their political operations.
02:26:36.000Again, I'm not weighing in on whether it was good or bad.
02:26:39.000I leave it to the audience to make their own determination.
02:26:44.000But you can see how even in that effectively state-sponsored documentary...
02:26:50.000It's just going through the years of the...
02:26:52.000We're going to have a lot more on that when we get to the rap program because they just sponsored 22 rappers and hip-hop artists from around the world to personally come to the State Department and be trained in youth engagement and democracy mobilization in their countries and art as activism.
02:27:11.00022 rappers from Cameroon, Algeria, France.
02:27:43.000I think it would benefit greatly from a lot of the stuff that I'm laying out now to see how these things had a foreign purpose for pumping up a domestic scene and why you see these military interlinkages with all these music promoters.
02:28:00.000For example, in that Grey Zone article I recommended in Cuba, USAID ran that operation to sponsor protest rap music.
02:28:17.000Through a contractor posing as music promoters in Cuba, basically looking at these local rap groups and saying, we can make you an international star, baby, type thing.
02:28:28.000And then they get radio distribution, and this is how you see these Bono types and Sting types who are at every single Save Ukraine conference.
02:28:37.000Again, not even weighing in on the substance of it.
02:28:51.000The NATO Psychological Operations Planning Center in Riga, Latvia, in 2019. And you can pull this on screen if you type in Taylor Swift NATO. Or you type in, you know, what was it?
02:29:16.000There was a huge controversy around it.
02:29:18.000A lot of people misreported it by closing the loops on things that I didn't say, but that are open questions about what really happened, which is this sort of Taylor Swift as an instrument of statecraft.
02:29:43.000This is a public YouTube right now on NATO's formal website, the Western Military Alliance.
02:29:48.000They set up this psychological operations, strategic communications cell to do Internet censorship and information operations out of after Crimea and Riga, Latvia.
02:29:57.000And in 2019, they held a conference there about.
02:30:02.000How to use AI scanning technology to map out narrative distribution networks on social media, Facebook, Twitter, whatnot.
02:30:12.000And there's three people who are at this thing.
02:30:16.000One of them was 77th Brigade from British Intelligence who are presenting to NATO. One of them started their career in the Central Intelligence Agency.
02:30:29.000Put in the description is someone who was part of the Johns Hopkins School of International Affairs School, but that actually was announced on the panel and, according to their LinkedIn, was actually working at the time for Graphica, which is the...
02:30:56.000They were formally incubated inside the Pentagon's Minerva Initiative, which is the Psychological Operations Research Center of the Pentagon.
02:31:03.000When the Pentagon wants to do psychological operations in Africa or in Central Asia, they turn to the thought leadership, the policy planners who pitch ideas about, well, these tactics work.
02:31:16.000So, for example, one of the Minerva Initiative grants.
02:31:19.000Not to Grafka, this group, but to others, because theirs was for Russiagate stuff, you know, sort of psychological operations, you know, stuff around fighting the hearts and minds war against Russia, Grafka.
02:31:33.000How to secure citizen buy-in after a crisis event in order to make people trust their government against when we topple the government and people think it's a coup.
02:31:44.000I mean, basically how to get people to trust their government when they're skeptical of it.
02:31:48.000And then you turn around and see Grafica was partnered with the Atlantic Council as well as the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to censor the 2020 election and partnered with our own NIH to censor COVID. But the fact is all three people on this panel.
02:32:01.000We're involved or had a career at one point in intelligence work.
02:32:06.000And specifically, you know, at least with two of them, psychological operations.
02:32:10.000And on screen, Jamie, if you can find it, I think you're going to save us both a lot of headache because everyone will just see it right there in red underlined on a YouTube video everyone can pull up right now.
02:32:26.000Let me know if you're having trouble finding it.
02:32:49.000My X-Feed is the best way to search it.
02:32:53.000But it has a picture on that slide deck where, again, this is...
02:32:59.000Psychological operations planners pitching to NATO, the Western World's Military Alliance, and the slide has a picture of Taylor Swift, and it basically says something like, and when the receipt's on the screen, you'll read it directly, it says, an example of celebrities who can be trained to spread desired messaging.
02:33:17.000I think that was the exact phrase, trained to spread desired messaging.
02:33:20.000And the presenter goes over the drawbacks of this, and we need to decide some of the moral efficacy of this, but...
02:33:28.000Basically saying that, you know, Taylor Swift has worked in various things before that have been empirically shown to move the needle on government initiatives.
02:33:35.000For example, her get-out-the-vote, you know, her get-out-the-vote work, increase-the-vote, her public health campaign stuff.
02:34:37.000Okay, so this has caused so much problems for the past couple of years that I guess they're now reforming this.
02:34:44.000But if you run a Boolean search for before 2024, you'll see this.
02:34:48.000But basically, the Pentagon, or if you scroll down, maybe it might be right there.
02:34:54.000So it caused this big boycott because the Pentagon, in tandem with this music diplomacy program and these U.S. aid backing of these things...
02:35:01.000Okay, well, that's a U.S. Army and Palestine one, but you'll see the numbers on this.
02:35:06.000Basically, the Pentagon moves into this and...
02:35:13.000Just like they were, you know, giving Dua Lipa the awards, just like they're working with Pussy Riot, just like they have 22. In fact, you can look this up if you want the State Department Music Diplomacy Program, 22 Rappers Hip Hop.
02:35:23.000You'll see, again, these people become network nodes.
02:35:30.000And, you know, an incredible example of this that I hesitate to discuss here because I know that the organization That these documents leaked from is contesting these documents.
02:35:47.000But there's evidence to suggest the same play around recruiting the hip-hop artists in Cuba.
02:36:33.000There's language, for example, in this Grey Zone report around Bangladesh, and I'll leave it to the current fight between them and the National Endowment for Democracy about the nature of those documents.
02:36:44.000But those documents that the Grey Zone published have two rap songs in Bangladesh that have lines like they were...
02:36:54.000Designed to inspire anti-government sentiment and to promote street protests and political reform.
02:37:04.000I mean, literally writing rap albums to get people to take to the streets and pull off the exact riot that the State Department wants to destabilize the country.
02:37:17.000I mean, they got really attached to this during the Cold War and in the 1980s because In fact, in those documents, they talk about how sponsoring individual artists is actually sometimes a lot more effective because they do art and activism.
02:37:30.000While they're putting on these festivals, they're promoting an agenda at the festivals.
02:37:34.000While they are putting these songs on radio distribution and supercharging their brand, those songs have themes and messages about...
02:37:45.000Taking down authoritarian governments, and the people gotta rise up.
02:37:48.000And, you know, we have to represent the will of the people.
02:37:53.000We have to, you know, end poverty, you know, and then they'll make the argument it's the government's fault that there's poverty.
02:37:58.000We have to end racial or gender inequality, and then the State Department or USAID will be working.
02:38:04.000There's demographic segmentation with those exact groups.
02:38:07.000This is another reason we've been pumping up these feminist groups and these LGBT groups.
02:38:12.000If you want, for example, you can pull up the WikiLeaks CIA red cell memo that showed how the CIA pitched to the State Department during the Afghanistan war that the best way to shore up additional funds from European parliaments is to transition states' media octopus messaging from a national security predicate for For the war to a feminism and a women's empowerment one because of fieldwork and polling
02:38:42.000from the Central Intelligence Agency around Europe showed that European parliaments and voting demographics said on surveys that they were more willing to give money or wanted to give more money from their own government coffers, their own taxpayer funds, to the war in Afghanistan.
02:39:03.000If it was about stopping repression against women or if it was about giving women more rights in the society and whatnot.
02:39:10.000That wasn't because the CIA loves feminism now.
02:39:14.000This was a cold, calculated instrument of statecraft to shift the messaging and then also to work with these exact groups who have that cleavage point axe to grind against their country.
02:39:28.000It's how you see a lot of these women's marches and women's protests, where you see a lot of these sort of protected class ones, because that also gets you the human rights predicate to add sanctions and other protected speech measures.
02:39:42.000Like, this is why the State Department pushed Facebook to put hate speech provisions in place to stop hate speech against the Rohingya.
02:39:48.000One of the things that's come up that has been talked about quite a bit over the last couple of years...
02:39:55.000Is that the government had some sort of an influence on the emergence of gangsta rap and the promotion of it.
02:40:07.000I don't have a good record, you know, in the 80s and 90s.
02:40:12.000There's a lot of strange things there, and I want to tell you what I really feel.
02:40:18.000It is highly controversial, though, and I... I'm not sure with everything else that we're covering and some of the other things that I'd like to be able to just hit before the conversation concludes about USAID's control and influence over prosecutors.
02:40:36.000And an example in Brazil, since I know that a lot of people in Brazil...
02:41:23.000The New York Times reported the CIA gets a copy of every grant that they make.
02:41:28.000Their own founders say that the CIA got in trouble for sponsoring pro-democracy groups around the world in the 1960s, and that's why we don't do it anymore, and that's why the National Endowment was created, basically to take the baton from the CIA during that transition between...
02:41:46.000Carter anti-CIA and Reagan pro-CIA. This was the compromise between left and right in that.
02:41:51.000That's why they have two political cores, IRI and NDI. But can you pull that back up?
02:41:58.000USA's partner in operations arm, National Down for Democracy, has been specifically demanding Donald Tusk's government in Poland must find ways to arrest high-ranking members of the PIS party in order to, quote, stamp out populism.
02:42:08.000They wrote this the first month in office.
02:42:11.000So, and again, you'll see this is responding to someone facing three years for flagging us.
02:42:55.000And again, I think formally, you know, what's published here is supposed to, you know, not technically.
02:43:00.000It's published in the NED publication.
02:43:02.000It doesn't mean it's NED formal policy, but this is what they're publishing and you're paying for.
02:43:06.000So they're saying, listen, it's not an autocracy in Poland.
02:43:09.000Unfortunately, we can't call it a dictator like Putin or the CCP. It's democracy because the people voted for it and they won fair and square, but it's a liberal democracy because the democratic institutions, don't you know, are not having their way.
02:43:24.000Poland may be saying on its first steps in, quote, stamping out populism and holding those responsible for the worst violations of rule of law.
02:43:32.000That means the criminal justice system.
02:43:51.000From the government we just transitioned from.
02:43:53.000Prime Minister Tusk and his coalition must, again, not should, not maybe should consider, maybe if there's something there, must stabilize the political system.
02:44:02.000Ensure the reign against losing in the next election.
02:44:07.000To ensure that populism does not return in the next election.
02:44:21.000This is State Department and USAID policy everywhere, and this is part of the can of worms that's going to have to be unwoven here.
02:44:27.000But this is a direct order, that in order to make sure you win the next election, and we don't need to keep funding you or lending our soft power apparatus to prop you up, arrest these people so they can't run against you again.
02:44:46.000It's not just telling them that you must do it if you want to get USAID support like the, you know, the Ukraine, you know, Ukraine Burisma loan type thing.
02:45:09.000This is a foreign, as far as the Polish people are concerned, this is a foreign government.
02:45:17.000It's foreign CIA front apparatus imploring their own elected government about which citizens there, that they need to arrest those citizens, and even giving them the list of targets.
02:45:31.000Imagine if the Russian Ministry of Affairs sent Donald Trump, said not only do you have to, you know, arrest The remnants of the Kamala Harris-Joe Biden campaign, but we're giving you the list of target names.
02:45:45.000Here's who Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, must file criminal indictments against.
02:45:52.000Again, technically, I believe what's published here is not, they're not supposed to be, you know, does not represent, it's like retweets are not endorsements, but you're paying for this organization, you're paying for this journal, and this is what they're publishing as a command to a foreign country.
02:46:07.000This was a Trump ally, by the way, the PIS party, which is another part of this.
02:46:31.000To arrange a supposedly unconstitutional presidential election by mail-in voting during the pandemic.
02:46:37.000W2ETF! It was practically a crime to not support mail-in voting with the National Endowment for Democracy here, but over there, they're saying it's a crime to have done it.
02:46:51.000Arrange a supposedly unconstitutional present election by mail-in voting during the pandemic.
02:47:17.000I believe it's 2015. The guy who was our head of DHS, which is the domestic interplay with all these foreign blob organizations.
02:47:26.000Was busted by his own inspector general in doing fast-pass, no-look expedited visas for Obama political donors and not putting it through the process.
02:47:39.000And the visa scandals are all over this.
02:47:41.000It was John Brennan as CIA station chief, by the way, in Saudi Arabia in the romp to 9-11 who, together with the U.S. consulate, Issued the visas to 15 of the 19 9-11 hijackers.
02:48:31.000These are just illustrative tips, cases, and maybe just the tip of the iceberg of who our CIA front group, our USAID operations arm, is saying must be done.
02:48:43.000Naturally, the leader of the Law and Justice Party himself, the democratically elected president, hey, Does what happened to Donald Trump now after the transitional justice that happened when Biden Justice Department took power starting to make a little bit more sense now?
02:49:12.000And again, the objective, pacification, stability.
02:49:17.000You don't need to worry about them winning the next election.
02:49:21.000Populism as a political possibility in Poland will be stamped out because the intelligence networks and the money arm of USAID and the corrupted and warped prosecutors are all on the take.
02:50:36.000Alright, so that Atlantic Council Distinguished Leadership Award is starting to make a little bit more sense now.
02:50:45.000There's an in-process attempt to basically bribe and co-opt the very same criminal justice system that our state-sponsored musical performers, I shouldn't say sponsors, our state-awarded ones are calling to take action against.
02:51:00.000Okay, let's look at, what's the next one?
02:52:04.000This is one of the reasons you can imagine Bukele was the first one on X to say, oh my God, there's no more rental rights in El Salvador anymore.
02:52:12.000And why was USAID so opposed to what we were doing getting rid of the drug networks?
02:52:26.000It's the same USAID Truman show everywhere we go.
02:52:30.000This thing has been dialed in for 60 years.
02:52:32.000And that's why I say it's going to take 50 years to untangle this.
02:52:36.000Because you're going to run to political headwinds the whole time.
02:52:39.000You don't think you're going to have money flowing back?
02:52:42.000By the way, they're going to go straight to their partners in Europe and around the world to do top-up funding for what they lose from USAID. For example, they might go to the European Endowment for Democracy.
02:52:54.000The EU may have to start making funds to these U.S. anti-Trump networks.
02:53:01.000They may have to tap into their allies in China or their allies in other Central American or South American governments.
02:53:09.000But, mark my words, that USAID Truman show, that joint, you know, these censors in exile, these, you know, regime changers in exile right now are going to glob on to every international ally they humanly can.
02:53:28.000They will be pressurizing the United Nations.
02:53:32.000They'll be pressurizing multilateral organizations like NATO, the EU, and, you know.
02:53:38.000Even some of these economic development packs to use the critical components they have there and sometimes dominant spot they have there to weaponize those assets.
02:53:47.000And that gets back to this sort of EU fight.
02:54:06.000I think it was the 2009 National National Network for Democracy Cuba rap Journal of Democracy article that I believe was co-authored by Ned's founder, Carl Gershman, who openly said that Ned does what the CIA used to do.
02:54:30.000that they effectively took the baton from it.
02:54:32.000And again, the CIA has copies, according to the Washington Post and New York Times of every grant Ned makes.
02:54:41.000When you look at the analysis, the in-house analysis done by Ned there, that there was this dense interplay between the Afro-Cuban population and the drug networks in Cuba, and then you look at the role of hip-hop and drug culture in retailing what is wholesaled in,
02:55:13.000Like, for example, we talked about the Mujahideen narco network.
02:55:16.000They even set up a CIA bank right there to back it.
02:55:20.000We did the same thing in 1960. USAID set up in 1961. At the very moment, two weeks before USAID was created, JFK awarded the Green Beret to the Special Forces.
02:55:33.000Then he creates USAID. That was October 1961. November 1961, he creates USAID. December 1961, one month after, he launches Operation Pincushion in Laos for the U.S. Special Forces to train and recruit hillside guerrillas in Laos, who are primarily funded by the drug networks that they sit on in the Golden Triangle.
02:55:56.000They sat on the opium of the Golden Triangle and the way they financed their own guerrilla war, CIA-backed war, and this is all...
02:56:29.000Was financing the CI's mercenary army by retailing the opium from Laos into these networks in Southeast Asia, like these CI proprietary banks, like everyone can look up Nugent Hand Bank or Castle Bank and Trust, these CI banks that were set up to launder basically drug proceeds, and they all got in a lot of trouble for this a few decades ago.
02:56:52.000The problem was is they couldn't sell enough because they were a scrappy little upstart, you know, group of hillside guerrillas.
02:57:03.000This is the 1960s, how long this has been going on.
02:57:07.000So they were recruited by the Special Forces.
02:57:09.000They were managed by the Central Intelligence Agency.
02:57:13.000USAID provided the financing, and this is all according to and in the Senate testimony of...
02:57:20.000Professor Alfred McCoy, this is a book called The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia.
02:57:25.000He testified in front of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1972. He detailed all this in his book.
02:57:31.000But USAID provided the financial assistance for Ving Pau and his narco-terrorist network to purchase two airplanes from two CIA proprietary...
02:57:48.000Another one was Continental Air Services.
02:57:50.000Both of these have been revealed in subsequent years to be CIA proprietary airlines.
02:57:54.000So the CIA commander, the commander of the CIA rebel army buys two planes from two CIA airlines and then uses them to traffic and retail the drugs by selling them to the market in Vietnam where we had special forces boots on the ground.
02:58:11.000So basically it was wholesaled by the CIA in that case.
02:58:15.000And then it was the logistics for that network were provided by USAID, and then it was retailed to poor, unsuspecting souls all over Southeast Asia.
02:58:27.000Play the same game in the Golden Crescent with Afghanistan.
02:58:30.000Play the same game with the cocaine trade in its route from Peru and Bolivia up into Colombia and then up into the distribution networks in Miami, Los Angeles, Chicago, you name it.
02:58:46.000When you start having organized crime and drugs as the front end that retails the products and services that are wholesale and part of an intelligence or military operation, you can't sell those drugs by having someone with a Department of Defense ID badge on the street corner on Facebook.
02:59:42.000There's all sorts of fantastic books on all of this if you want to read more, like Operation Gladio by Paul Williams.
02:59:48.000There's so much in this field, but the role of narcotics is in financing black budget military covert operations in every major place they spring is a black box that is not my crusade.
03:00:08.000Frankly, again, I wish we didn't even go here, but I do feel like you do need to have a side-eye glimpse into some of these worlds to understand Internet censorship, because you are going to find USAID NGOs.
03:00:22.000If Bukele had not done the radical reforms that he had had...
03:00:27.000The internet would have been completely censored by USAID and the State Department in order to rig hearts and minds against him because they would want to stop him from cleaning out these drug gangs.
03:00:40.000He would stop them from cleaning up the crime.
03:00:42.000You're going to see the same thing about fact-checkers in Pakistan.
03:00:47.000For example, according to the Grey Zone report on...
03:00:55.000And in fact, this is actually, I believe, on the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan's website, the Countering Misinformation Training Seminar they had with the guy who's now the top foreign advisor in Pakistan.
03:01:08.000And they brought in the executive director of PolitiFact, flew him all the way out to the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan to train journalists about...
03:01:29.000But I come back to the U.S. Institute for Peace, on a live URL as we speak, not even two years ago, made an impassioned plea to the Taliban to keep 95% of the world's heroin flowing.
03:01:47.000You have to explain that to the American people.
03:01:51.000That is the State Department's policy.
03:01:54.000U.S. Institute of Peace is not going to go rogue against the State Department foreign policy there because they're funded by the State Department.
03:02:02.000You see the same thing with these ISIS terrorist drug narco networks?
03:02:14.000Well, that means the more of those poppy crops that get retailed off to ISIS networks, the more powerful and well-financed they are, the more they can pay their soldiers or stop their soldiers from defecting, from being mercenaries.
03:02:31.000And lo and behold, that same network just toppled the Syrian government.
03:02:36.000And I should note, structuring through USAID is the sauce to this, because...
03:02:42.000There is a sitting tweet from the U.S. Embassy in Syria from 2017 when Trump was wiping out ISIS that put a $10 million bounty on the head of Mohammed al-Jelani, the commander of those forces, the current basically head of state in the interim government in Syria.
03:03:00.000There was a $10 million bounty on his head under Trump.
03:03:04.000They made the argument that his HTS group was an al-Qaeda spinoff and no al-Qaeda allowed.
03:03:13.000Well, according to his own military generals, who said this openly in mainstream media after the fact, we were constantly playing shell games with the numbers to hide the troop activity and what we were doing on the ground in Syria and the broader region.
03:03:29.000If you don't need a presidential finding to finance a terrorist group or a paramilitary group, it's too dirty for CIA. The president won't approve.
03:03:38.000Run it through USAID. And what does this have to do with hip-hop?
03:03:46.000Like, for example, like what I was saying about, USAID bought the airplanes for the wholesalers to move it to the retailers.
03:03:59.000When you have this intersection between hip-hop and the drug economy, hip-hop popularizing it, you have a lot of these rappers who've said, we're told by our promoters or our managers to lean into that stuff.
03:04:14.000You have the whole organized crime gang.
03:04:18.000This is in Gary Webb's Dark Alliance, where he goes through this network from basically the CIA playing a...
03:04:25.000And the Defense Department playing a leading role in propping up these narcotics trades in South America because they were pumping up right-wing death squads and right-wing paramilitary narco gang networks that were violent and effectively shut down left-wing Marxist theology movements who were considered to be pro-Soviet.
03:04:47.000This is how you have a lot of this, for example, with Iran-Contra and the Reagan years.
03:04:52.000So, you know, he makes a very compelling case about the role of the U.S. intelligence community at the wholesale level in Peru and Bolivia and at the actual processing in Colombia.
03:05:04.000And then the movement in transport to the gangs in Los Angeles and Miami and Chicago and the like.
03:05:11.000And that wholesale movement effectively goes from, you know, Langley slash Crystal City in D.C., D.C., Virginia.
03:05:22.000To a sort of, you know, Hispanic population in South America, into, you know, other, into gangs that are retailing it, you know, into these Compton gangs, into these, you know, these Chicago and Miami and New York ones.
03:05:45.000You have a culture of drug use that creates a market for...
03:05:50.000For selling the proceeds so that drugs can be turned into cash, which can then be used to purchase guns.
03:05:57.000And when you see this just liquid seamlessness there, and then, you know, I don't want to tax Jamie too much, but, you know, this gray zone report in Bangladesh has specific language with...
03:06:15.000The National Endowment for Democracy and one of its subarms making explicit grants to Bangladeshi rap groups for the explicit purpose of getting people to take to the streets in street riots and protest movements and to undermine public faith and public confidence and favorable sentiment for the then-in-power Bangladeshi government.
03:06:39.000You know, they were targeting the youth movements.
03:06:41.000Remember when we pulled up the 22 hip-hop artists on screen and the whole thing was about youth mobilization?
03:06:46.000These people formed the front end of the, you know, of the destabilization.
03:06:52.000So your argument is essentially that this game plan is ubiquitous and that this game plan is done in the United States, too, to promote drug use and drug selling, which they profit off of.
03:07:05.000What I'm saying is there's a useful role.
03:07:09.000Around, you know, of music and other artistic and cultural ventures for creating a market for something that helps U.S. statecraft.
03:07:21.000For example, this was the major, major scandal.
03:07:25.000The head of the Central Intelligence Agency, John Deutsch, had to travel to Compton in 1997, I believe that was the year, in order to plead with the black population there.
03:07:36.000That what had happened with the CIA's role in the drug trade was a sort of occasional one-off accident, wasn't authorized, wasn't supposed to happen.
03:07:46.000But the fact is, those narco networks supported the Nicaraguan Contra movement.
03:08:23.000I almost don't want to take away from, you know, so much of the...
03:08:29.000Important factual stuff where I have the receipts on screen.
03:08:32.000But what I'm saying is you are going to see resistance from very strange pockets as you do this distinct entangling process.
03:08:38.000How many people knew that an arm of the State Department right next door to it that gets all of its money from the State Department who sets the foreign policy is telling the Taliban to keep the drug networks open?
03:08:48.000Or that same arm is going after Bukele when he tries to arrest the drug criminals in El Salvador, which, by the way, was the...
03:08:58.000You know, the most intense of these narco right-wing death squads during the Cold War.
03:09:10.000And we pump up every cultural vector we can.
03:09:12.000Again, you know, watch Taking Down a Dictator, that documentary, and look at the role of music in the State Department's eyes in being able to galvanize street protest movements, gets everyone on the street united, gets everyone listening to the same thing.
03:09:25.000They're all sort of, you know, aligned like a magnet.
03:09:31.000I mean, even look at places like the Azov Battalion and how they sort of grew out of this black metal rap, black metal music coalition with highly extremist lyrics and whatnot in Ukraine.
03:09:44.000The same sort of extremist lyrics you saw in the Bangladeshi rap songs or the call to take to the streets in the Cuban ones.
03:09:50.000And again, this has been going on a long time.
03:09:53.000Look at the lyrics of a Pussy Riot song.
03:09:56.000And remember, they literally are standing at the Secretary of State's podium, arm in arm with the U.S. State Department.
03:10:11.000And everyone can look up CI's Rolling Rock and whatnot.
03:10:16.000There's great Guardian articles about all this as well.
03:10:20.000It's more to say, coming back to this USA Truman Show, that everything and anything can be an instrument of statecraft, whether that's the prosecutors, the universities, the unions, the media, the social media, arts, dance.
03:10:33.000This is where you get these transgender dance festivals and this demographic segmentation to see who hates the government.
03:10:39.000Well, if the government is cracking down on transgenderism or is not kind to it or they feel like they want more rights, that's a useful demographic as a cleavage point for the U.S. State Department to capacity build, flow money to, so that they can be used as a battering ram.
03:10:55.000And I'm not endorsing that, but that is just why we work.
03:11:03.000So, Jamie, I sent you a bunch of these, you know, screenshots that my foundation is going to be publishing in our final report, but I wanted to just go through these here because we've been talking about the role of The criminal justice system, more than anything, you know, media is rigged.
03:11:27.000When the criminal justice system and the judges are rigged and the prosecutors are rigged, you don't even have a country anymore because they can arrest the president.
03:11:40.000And it's a shortcut to control over the whole side.
03:11:44.000And we went through examples with, you know, Ukraine, Burisma, Serbia, we went through that whole exercise, but Jamie, if you can pull on screen, we can just go through the text messages, this will be the last thing, of USAID's role with the judiciary in Brazil.
03:12:03.000And specifically against Bolsonaro, who is targeted by these anti-misinformation actions.
03:13:15.000SEPPS? How many hours have you and I now spent talking about the SEPPS program, the USAID program that explicitly set its job to get foreign countries and foreign courts to pass censorship laws?
03:13:27.000This is USAID funded and implemented by the National Endowment for Democracy.
03:13:42.000SEF's core partner, IFES, this is basically the election strengthening, teaming up directly with Brazil's TSE court.
03:13:49.000That is the censorship court that seized X's, that shut down X, and that seized Starlink's assets, and that effectively criminalized the speech of virtually any significant pro Bolsonaro voice in Brazil.
03:14:03.000This is our USAID network doing the training, doing the networking, and if you go back, I'm just going to show a couple more of these.
03:14:26.000I got layers of all these different judges and the pitches to the prosecutors to arrest it.
03:14:32.000The whole thing was a USA Truman show taking over the judiciary, or at least substantially influencing and tilted to take out their political enemy, Bolsonaro, the whole way down.
03:15:24.000And remember, you know, we pull a lot of tricks in order, you know, around that.
03:15:28.000And you're going to find a lot more of that when you look into the role of unions like the National for Democracy Solidarity Center and the whole suite there.
03:15:39.000Remember, we literally pulled favors with Taiwan.
03:15:42.000This is reported in the Financial Times in order to get them the semiconductor chips to build the voting machines against.
03:15:54.000The head of the Pentagon went down and you met with the army to tell them, you know, you have to trust the result of the election.
03:16:00.000Lloyd Austin, the head of the Pentagon.
03:16:03.000You know, we're saying the head of the CIA, the head of the military, we're running semiconductor chips just so that they can make voting machines that the elected head of state doesn't want.
03:16:14.000We're funding their workers' movements.
03:16:18.000So we have a very specific outcome that we want, and then we also make sure that they use voting machines that we provide.
03:16:25.000I'm not even weighing into the voting machine issue, except to say that it's very strange that we would divert semiconductor supplies bound for the U.S. during a critical shortage.
03:16:35.000And give them to a foreign government to put in voting machines that the elected head of state doesn't want.
03:17:06.000We've already done more than anyone has ever done.
03:17:10.000No foreign-facing government agent, no cog in the wheel of this Dirty Tricks apparatus has ever had 14,000, 99.8% of the workforce laid off, the name taken off the building from a month in terms of the lightning speed of it.
03:17:34.000But I feel a sense of hope and optimism and a kind of spiritual fulfillment, if that's too big a phrase to say.
03:17:45.000But you don't see me happy or doing cartwheels.
03:17:49.000It doesn't really show on my face because I know the...
03:17:56.000The scale and the duration of this fight is going to continue for the rest of my lifetime.
03:18:04.000We're running fast, but it's a marathon the whole way.
03:18:06.000What's unbelievably baffling to me is the complete absence of the coverage of all these things that should be very concerning in mainstream media.
03:18:39.000But every single one of those, people need to understand the category.
03:18:42.000They talk about public health and all the lives and how many more people are going to have AIDS and HIV. In 2014, USAID was busted running a covert operation where according to their own...
03:18:53.000You know, people who are involved in the operation, they set up an HIV prevention program in foreign countries because it would be the perfect excuse because counterintelligence would never think that the HIV clinics were the place that they were using as key nodes in the regime change network.
03:19:14.000But in every single one of those, it's dual purpose because the fundamental reason you do this out of USAID is to dupe people.
03:19:21.000And this puts our oversight bodies in a difficult spot.
03:19:26.000Let's just say we're funding transgender dance festivals in some country because, turns out, they really dislike a government that we consider authoritarian.
03:19:36.000And so you could actually see a sort of, I don't know the situation in Venezuela, but let's just say that the Trump administration has been at war with Maduro and wants to pursue a policy of turning over that government, and it just so happens that That government is persecuting the transgender population and the transgender population, if they could just be built up more, you know, would be able to convert, you know, convert more hearts and minds to vote against Maduro.
03:20:02.000Well, you could see a sort of, if I may say, again, I'm not saying this should be done.
03:20:08.000I'm just saying you could see a sort of MAGA foreign policy explanation for funding transgender dance festivals in Venezuela if that's what the baseline assessment reveals.
03:20:19.000American people are never going to be allowed to know about it because imagine the Senate Oversight Committee.
03:20:23.000Why are we funding these transgender dance festivals in Venezuela?
03:20:26.000Oh, actually, because we're running a lie there.
03:20:30.000By the way, everyone in Venezuela can watch this live hearing.
03:20:32.000The whole thing is actually a carefully constructed lie because we're cynically exploiting the transgender people to serve as battering rams against the head of state we want to overthrow, but we have not declared that publicly.
03:20:44.000I mean, we're back to plausible deniability.
03:21:16.000And all the stuff that you were talking about before all these documents were exposed, before the Doge went into USAID, you were dead right about all of it.
03:21:43.000Fascinating that you would see that on a native...
03:21:45.000What I care about is what we talked about with its control over media, its control over prosecutors, its control over social media and pushing social media censorship and these sorts of things that we have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to reform.
03:22:00.000And I want to thank you and express my personal gratitude for having these difficult and, I'm sure, taxing conversations to crack it all open.