Joe Rogan is back in Austin, Texas. He talks about Saturday Night Live, the Vietnam War, and George H.W. Bush. Joe Rogan Experience is a production of Native Creative Podcasts and produced by Native Creative.
00:00:33.000It's perfect because it's like a blue city and a red state.
00:00:37.000It's like even the really kooky liberal people are pretty reasonable in comparison to like the kooky liberal people from California or New York.
00:03:57.000Three days before 1968 presidential election, President Johnson contacted Senate Majority Leader Everett M. Dirksen to inform him the White House had received hard evidence from the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
00:04:10.000The campaign of Republican presidential candidate Richard M. Dick Nixon was interfering with Johnson's effort to start peace talks to end the Vietnam War.
00:04:19.000And this call, Johnson referred to contacts between Nixon's campaign and South Vietnamese president when Van Thee, I don't know how to say his name, urged that they thwart any such negotiations.
00:04:40.000Bush, you know, the senior Bush, George Bush Sr., he met with the leaders of the Iranian, what do you call it, party, whatever, before the election, the fight between Carter and Reagan, and insisted they needed to not be letting those hostages go.
00:09:35.000If you have a large audience, I think you have at least a certain amount of responsibility to talk to some people that you think might be telling the truth.
00:09:42.000Yeah, I liked your interview with Robert Malone.
00:09:54.000It was really sad to see people like Joni Mitchell and Neil Young.
00:10:01.000I wanted to sit down and talk to them and show them some studies and give them Robert Kennedy's book and say, you don't really know what you're talking about.
00:10:10.000Well, that's the thing that makes me sad is a lot of this information they're receiving is like from mainstream media, which certainly has its own objectives and its own, you know, things that it won't discuss.
00:10:28.000And, yeah, and I just felt like after that happened, you know.
00:10:35.000I was going to try to get in touch with you just to tip my hat to you, but it just felt like, why don't people just listen to the interview?
00:10:44.000Because I feel like everyone who was giving it a hard time hadn't even heard the interview.
00:11:02.000Everything that everybody said about whether it was a lab leak, whether the vaccine had side effects, whether it was pushed, whether they lied about the studies and distorted the information, everything was true.
00:11:14.000Including Yale just released some study about people producing spike protein 700 plus days after the injections, which was never thought to be the case when they gave them to these people in the first place.
00:11:30.000Serious problems that people are having because of these that everyone's covering up and people are lying about and everyone's trying to obfuscate and doctors are trying to sweep things under the rug because they don't want to be in trouble for mandating these things and telling people to get these things.
00:13:43.000But it's just weird that so many people went along with it without question.
00:13:46.000I mean, and especially the weirdest part was it was the people on the left.
00:13:51.000That was so confusing to me because all my life, people on the left were very, very hesitant to believe anything that Big Pharma said and always distrusting in...
00:14:03.000Any major institution that was profiting off of something, and it was all very clear.
00:14:09.000You could see where the motivation was with everything.
00:14:12.000You could see the amount of profit that was going to be generated, and still, everybody was just so scared.
00:14:17.000It just exposed a lot of cowards, a lot of fools, a lot of cowards, and a lot of people that are just, at the moment of any form of adversity, are willing to just bow down.
00:16:39.000And even the guy, interestingly, you know, Kerry Mullis, I believe his name, the guy who created the PCR tests, or, well, there was some discrepancy with other people.
00:17:28.000Depending upon the amount of cycles that you run the PCR, I mean, you could detect, like, the most minute amount that is not indicative of the person being infected.
00:18:14.000Well, I think this pandemic and the response and the mandates and all that shit, it ruined people's faith in, first of all, the mainstream media.
00:18:26.000I think the mainstream media took the biggest hit out of anybody.
00:18:29.000Like, the trust in the television shows and the newspapers that are supposed to be delivering the truth is at an all-time low.
00:19:04.000And now, you know, now they're lying about the Department of Government Efficiency, when before they were lying about pandemics and vaccines.
00:20:25.000It was a good experience for some people just to learn that like, hey, there's sources that you cannot trust.
00:20:33.000And I think now the beautiful thing about someone like Elon buying...
00:20:37.000Twitter and turning it into X and having community notes is now you have a way of fact-checking things where people use the community notes and they start posting studies in the community notes and saying, no, this story is not true.
00:22:59.000Now, but after that Robert Malone thing happened, I was really curious.
00:23:03.000I was wanting to contact you, and I didn't, but I was just curious how, because, man, I've never seen anyone take more body blows, but I've got to say, it was cool.
00:24:26.000What was it like in Hollywood having your perspective, your healthy distrust of what was going on, where everybody was sort of in lockstep with whatever the government propaganda was?
00:25:28.000It had been a long time since I'd been sick.
00:25:30.000And I'm like, I don't feel like I need to wear a mask.
00:25:36.000I would just not wear a mask, you know, but everybody else on the set's wearing a mask, which is very discomforting because, you know, you can't even relate to people so well without seeing their face.
00:27:44.000It seems like there's so much you can subscribe to these days.
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00:27:57.000If you can think of it, there's probably a subscription for it.
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00:29:25.000That's rocketmoney.com slash J-R-E. Rocketmoney.com slash JRE. Rocketmoney.com slash JRE. Well, one big one that he wants to accomplish is to remove this liability waiver for vaccines.
00:30:07.000People are paying attention now, and they will get primaried, and I think they're aware of that.
00:30:10.000So I think there's a vulnerability for their entire career.
00:30:13.000If people find out that they weren't willing to do this in the face of overwhelming evidence, you know?
00:30:20.000Like Bobby was just talking about the hepatitis vaccine, that they were saying that the hepatitis B vaccine, they were having a hard time selling it.
00:30:29.000They all of a sudden start saying, don't worry about it.
00:30:31.000We're going to prescribe it for children.
00:30:33.000And they put it on the vaccine schedule for children.
00:30:35.000And they did that just because they were having a hard time.
00:30:37.000Because the only time you get hepatitis B is from dirty needles and risky sex.
00:32:14.000Yeah, and it's also, it's like, It's this fucking disgustingly short-sighted approach because you don't live that long.
00:32:23.000To live your life just profiteering off of the expense of other people's suffering is so crazy.
00:32:29.000When you've got 80 years of your lucky, you've got 80 summers, 80 summers, 80 spins around the sun, and you're going to fucking sell people out for some money that you're never going to have enough of anyway.
00:32:44.000All those cocksuckers, they all want more.
00:33:18.000Well, if that's what your game is, right?
00:33:20.000So if your game is just numbers, you're never going to be satisfied.
00:33:24.000You know, if your game is just numbers, you're always going to look at the other people.
00:33:29.000Like my friend Brian has a friend that has $3 billion and he says he hangs out with his billionaire friends and he feels poor because they have $30 billion.
00:34:14.000We're going to have a moral and ethical framework.
00:34:17.000We're going to have a moral and ethical structure that we operate under.
00:34:22.000And too many people are just motivated by my money instead of humanity, instead of looking at people as like a community.
00:34:29.000We're all a community of people and you can still...
00:34:33.000Profit, and you can still make money, but making more money at the expense of people's lives and suffering should be the most abhorrent thing that we could possibly imagine, especially if you're already wealthy.
00:34:45.000That should be absolutely disgusting to us, and that it's condoned and just accepted, and you shrug your shoulders.
00:40:07.000And by the way, most people do agree with this, but when you have, like, Over 70% of the people in jail are there for victimless crimes, mostly drug-related crimes.
00:40:20.000Well, then we go back to another thing, profiteering, because we have private prisons, which is crazy.
00:40:27.000We're essentially taking human beings and you're using them as batteries to generate money.
00:41:17.000That's the first time I really thought about, in spite of being around prisons, you know, much of my life, I'd never thought about the fact that they're...
00:42:26.000Where people expand their consciousness, understand that what they're doing is morally reprehensible, and even though you can sort of justify it because it's legal, it's disgusting.
00:43:34.000Basically, his field of study is the evidence that human beings and human civilization has gone through a reset.
00:43:42.000And that somewhere around 12,000 years ago, and this is all supported by this theory called the Younger Dryas Impact Theory, where they found evidence that the Earth was bombarded by comets at more than two different times in history that probably reset civilization.
00:44:01.000And that this is probably why you see ancient structures that people can't explain, and these stone buildings that have incredibly complex geometry.
00:44:25.000I'm talking about, like, Turkey, you know, I'm talking about, like, Gobekli Tepe and these ancient structures they found that are absolutely 11,000-plus years old, where people are supposed to be just hunter and gatherers, and that we had thought up until, you know, the last 40 or 50 years.
00:44:41.000That society emerged around 6,000 years ago in Mesopotamia.
00:44:46.000What he believes is that that is a re-emergence of society and that society had already reached a very high level of sophistication around 12,000 years ago and that something happened, some sort of gigantic cataclysm and reset things.
00:45:00.000But Graham is also an enthusiast of ayahuasca and the power of psychedelic medicine and he has often said that To run governments, it should be mandatory that you have psychedelic sessions.
00:46:35.000And I noticed just the other day, there was some dude, like, I can't remember what the context was, but I remember he kind of came into my zone and I thought, look at this fucking guy, man.
00:48:45.000And they think that the other people are trying to prevent that.
00:48:48.000Instead of just accentuating those important factors and saying we should all concentrate on that, then we should all look at things that prevent that.
00:48:57.000What are the things that prevent happiness and love and health?
00:49:01.000Let's all work collectively together to eliminate those aspects of our society.
00:50:16.000The problem is enormous entities that need incredible amounts of capital in order to stay relevant.
00:50:21.000And in doing so, what's crazy is if you're in the information business, well, you can't be accurate.
00:50:27.000You cannot be accurate about the distribution of information if your profits are based on you pushing a bullshit narrative because those are the people that are supporting you.
00:50:37.000So therefore they're not going to make it.
00:50:40.000It's like you see the writing on the wall.
00:51:15.000And he'll tell you it all goes back to 2013 when this was passed and this is what happened and they tried to do this and this is what we're trying to do because there's oil here or there's minerals there and you're like, oh, fuck.
00:51:28.000But most people don't have the time to do that kind of a deep dive.
00:51:31.000So you turn on CNN and CNN says, safe and effective.
00:52:13.000Well, they had a flood, and then it froze, and so you got cars, like, up to the fucking windshield, frozen solid in the streets, and car alarms going off.
00:52:22.000There was some sort of a water main line broke, probably because of the cold, and then the streets flooded, and then the streets, when they flooded, then they froze, and so all these cars, like, literally up to the windshield, stuck, see if you can find it.
00:56:03.000He's another guy that's risen as an independent journalist.
00:56:06.000He's a comedian, and he started his show basically just making fun of political things, and then during the pandemic got vaccine injured and really got kind of red-pilled and kind of became like the voice of truth and reason.
00:56:21.000And, you know, another guy who's been completely outcast by supposedly progressive people for just telling the truth, the inconvenient truth.
00:56:32.000But I guess the progressives, are they now the conservatives?
00:56:37.000We've got to change the term because progressives seem a lot less progressive.
00:56:48.000I think they got co-opted, and I think it was on purpose.
00:56:51.000I think there was some very sophisticated psychological manipulation that was involved, and a lot of money was being spent in order to push some very specific narratives.
00:57:06.000They did a great job of it, but we're finding out because of the Department of Government Efficiency that most of this was funded by our own tax dollars, which is really fucking crazy.
00:57:14.000A lot of these NGOs that supported a lot of these crazy riots.
00:57:18.000All these different things that were happening in our cities was really supported by our own tax dollars.
00:57:23.000It was just a subversion of public discourse.
00:57:28.000Instead of allowing people to figure out what's right and what's wrong, they pushed what they wanted you to say and anybody who deviated from that was canceled.
00:57:37.000And because of the fact that before Elon bought Twitter, the left had complete total control over the narrative because they owned all the social media sites and they were in lockstep with the government.
00:57:47.000So it was just a dark time for information, but a few brave people braved the storm, and one of them was Jimmy.
00:58:32.000But this is the perfect example of how the Trusted News Initiative managed to...
00:58:38.000A lot of news just never got to people because...
00:58:42.000The guy had a body cam and is talking to him and the guy who works for Pfizer is saying they just had a meeting talking about how they could weaponize these other viruses in order to basically create another pandemic so that they would have the vaccine to address it and make more money, which is not a surprising thing that they would be discussing.
00:59:08.000But what was great was he admitted it to the guy while they're sitting there at our little diner.
01:00:52.000The fact that the injection doesn't stay locally, that it infects various parts of your body in different ways.
01:00:57.000If it gets to your heart, it's very dangerous, because your heart doesn't have the ability to heal, which is why you don't get heart cancer.
01:01:02.000So your heart just scars over, and you get myocarditis.
01:01:05.000He started talking about all these different effects, and he, personally, was vaccine injured.
01:01:10.000So he was a guy who took it, almost had a fucking heart attack, was like, what is going on?
01:01:18.000Managed to get through it, then started speaking out against it, then started doing more research and finding out what was going on, and then that was the collective freakout.
01:01:27.000Well, it's incredible that so many people were injured, and yet it's still kind of not widely discussed.
01:02:46.000Sad, lost, angry people that think they have to lash out at the other for the problems that is really caused by gigantic corporations and the exchange of money.
01:03:20.000I mean to escape the fog, the fog of propaganda.
01:03:25.000And that's – I mean that's literally why all that stuff was made illegal in 1970. Richard Nixon was trying to stop the anti-war effort in the civil rights movement.
01:03:34.000That's why they turned the Schedule I – the sweeping Schedule I Prohibition Act of all psychedelic drugs.
01:08:54.000Like, how many people have been turned off by religion by watching mega pastors in these huge churches flying around in private jets and driving in Rolls Royces?
01:09:03.000Like, oh, well, this is all bullshit, you know?
01:09:35.000I'm not in favor of any restrictive religions.
01:09:37.000I'm not in favor of any religions that punish people that don't follow them.
01:09:43.000And I'm not in favor of any religions that force a very rigid structure on people that has to be adhered to or you're a sinner or cast out.
01:09:56.000I think that most religious experience – I think most religion is based on human beings' very unique experiences that have provided enlightenment and they're trying to express that enlightenment to other people.
01:10:17.000And I think the problem with religious stories are that people are full of shit, and a lot of those stories suck.
01:10:25.000You know, a lot of those stories are probably distorted by the hand of man.
01:10:31.000I'm of the school of thought that a lot of the religious experiences that people talk about were probably inspired by psychedelic experiences.
01:10:39.000There's a great book called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross by John Marco Allegro.
01:11:24.000Well, the John Marco Lego book, he was an ordained minister, but he was one of the people that was assigned to translate the Dead Sea Scrolls, and he did it over the course of, I think it was about 14 years.
01:11:34.000And then he wrote this book because it was his belief, and he was a very straight-laced scholar.
01:11:39.000He wasn't a psychedelic enthusiast, but he believed that the entire...
01:11:44.000Christian religion was based on the consumption of psychedelic mushrooms and fertility rituals And he thinks that a lot of these stories that their origins come from that Really?
01:11:55.000Yeah, and he believed that a lot of it was the Amanita muscaria mushroom, which is a very confusing mushroom because a lot of people have a hard time tripping on it.
01:12:04.000Terrence McKenna believed that the problem was that the psychedelic compounds in it varied regionally and genetically, and that they weren't all the same, and that a lot of these people that were having these experiences were not.
01:12:22.000It really depended upon where you get them from and how you got them and how you treated it.
01:12:27.000And a lot of that information was lost.
01:12:28.000And also, like, there's certain religious ceremonies that involved very mysterious things like Soma.
01:12:37.000You know, Soma from the ancient Hindu texts.
01:12:41.000They don't know what it was But it seems like it was some sort of a psychedelic compound whether it was a blue lotus and psilocybin Or a combination of many things, you know, like the illicit in mysteries where you know in ancient Greece They believed that that was ergot that ergot was mixed in with the wine ergot which is a very similar experience to LSD Oh, yeah There's a great book on that, too, if you've never read it.
01:13:07.000It's called The Immortality Key by a scholar named Brian Murorescu, who's a brilliant guy who's been on the podcast a couple times.
01:13:15.000But he's done a lot of, like, really legitimate work on...
01:13:20.000Proving that these vessels, these wine containers that they had from these ancient times, they found trace elements of ergot in these wine vessels.
01:13:30.000And they know that wine back then was not just fermented grapes.
01:13:34.000They would add a bunch of things to the wine.
01:14:45.000I mean, it is literally what we were talking about.
01:14:49.000Like, if you want something that accentuates compassion and this sense of family and brotherhood and sisterhood, that we're all together in this thing, what better than psychedelic drugs?
01:16:34.000I don't know how they're doing it, but somehow or another, they're skirting around the rules and developing something that is basically the same.
01:17:43.000I think there's just a lot of people that recognize that.
01:17:45.000What they did in the 1970s was very effective.
01:17:49.000They threw water on the entire psychedelic movement and the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement, and they did it by banning a lot of these compounds that were changing the way people thought about life.
01:18:03.000And, you know, like the whole peace, love and hippie movement of the 1960s was all inspired by psychedelic drugs, all of it.
01:18:11.000And it was a revolutionary, complete change of society from 1950 to 1960. I mean, 10 years, things became, the music and culture became almost unrecognizable.
01:18:24.000And I think it was terrifying to the powers that be.
01:18:27.000And unfortunately, the propaganda that they pushed, just like the propaganda that we saw during the COVID. It sticks around for a long time.
01:18:42.000And unless you have viable representations of opposing narratives that are really effective, it's very hard for people to change their perspective on things without a personal experience.
01:19:35.000Well, that was one of the most fascinating things about COVID. When I was talking to Dr. Peter Hotez, who's an overweight guy who eats junk food, and he's telling me everybody's got to get vaccinated.
01:20:40.000Yeah, I mean, the problem was also any sort of, I mean, this is Dr. Birx is now admitting this when she's being questioned, is that they stopped.
01:20:51.000Any early treatments that weren't the vaccine and that they probably shouldn't have done that and that a lot of people could have been saved because of that.
01:21:00.000And that's something that people need to – that's one of the best aspects of Bobby's book, Bobby Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci, is like understand like what pressures were put on these organizations to stifle and completely stop the prescription.
01:21:20.000Use of a bunch of different things, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin.
01:21:24.000Also, the studies that were done on vitamin D deficiencies and how that impacted immune systems and just sunlight, exercise, diet.
01:21:33.000All those things play a critical factor in how well your immune system functions.
01:21:37.000The idea that the only way your immune system functions at its peak is you've got to stick a fucking metal pin filled with a solution that gets plunged into your tissue.
01:21:54.000But you make a great point because it's like, you know, why didn't we hear from America's doctor Fauci or the other representatives from the medical industry maybe eat less...
01:22:17.000They didn't want a fat shame, so they never told anybody to lose weight, which is one of the major comorbidities that affected people negatively.
01:23:24.000Also, I want to know why you think the way you think.
01:23:26.000If you think totally different than me, I want to sit down with you.
01:23:29.000And I want to give you all the room in the world to say what You think.
01:23:35.000I want to know how you came to those conclusions.
01:23:37.000I want to know what your childhood was like.
01:23:39.000I want to know, like, what experiences have you had that led you to have these, like, concrete evaluations of the way society is that are so different than mine.
01:23:49.000That's a great compassionate vantage point.
01:24:09.000One of the weirdest conversations I had on this podcast was talking to Dr. Sanjay Gupta from CNN. They sent him over here to fucking straighten me out.
01:24:16.000And by the end of it, it was a very bizarre conversation.
01:24:21.000By the end of it, he was essentially agreeing with me.
01:24:23.000I had heard that he didn't think you should necessarily vaccinate.
01:24:28.000I thought he was a little more progressive on that.
01:24:31.000Well, he's smart, but he's also working for CNN, and he's also a neurosurgeon.
01:24:39.000He's just captured by the system, and that's part of the problem.
01:24:43.000But there was a lot of things that didn't make any sense, like one of the ones where he wanted me to get vaccinated after I'd recovered from COVID. Shouldn't that be the reason I'm already vaccinated, basically?
01:27:12.000It's like the safety profile is incredible.
01:27:15.000And this idea that like Rolling Stones printing articles that people are having overdoses from Ivermectin and people can't get into the emergency room because of gunshot wounds.
01:27:24.000They even showed a photograph of a bunch of people outside of an emergency room.
01:27:29.000Wearing winter coats in August because it was a photograph of people waiting in line to get a flu shot.
01:27:34.000It was a bullshit photograph that fucking Rolling Stone published.
01:27:39.000This is so wild to watch because it's not just propaganda.
01:27:43.000It's really shitty propaganda because there's not much truthful they can say that would go against this stuff.
01:27:49.000So they have to just say it's horse dewormer.
01:28:15.000So they still thought they were CNN. They were going to crush this rebellion against this one specific thing that you had to do, which was get vaccinated.
01:29:29.000But again, there's a lot of cool shit out there.
01:29:31.000You know, it's like you can concentrate on that or you can concentrate on how much cool music there is now, how much great comedy there is now, how many great movies there are now.
01:29:39.000There's plenty of things to concentrate on.
01:29:41.000It's like there's just the problem is there's a lot of people.
01:30:04.000If there was no money in politics and there was no money in pharmaceutical drugs and there was no money in war, we'd live in a much better place.
01:30:16.000It's just we have to move closer to that somehow or another.
01:30:20.000And whether Bobby Kennedy can help us along those lines and all these other people that are trying very hard to stomp out a lot of this bullshit that we've been experiencing for so long.
01:34:17.000Biden took into consideration or Fauci took into consideration either.
01:34:20.000I think they just, he just wanted anything to protect him because he knew it was coming.
01:34:24.000He knew that they had, I mean, just the emails that were available that showed collusion, where they, he had gotten a hold of all these different researchers and changed their perspective on whether or not it was a lab leak.
01:34:35.000Because through EcoHealth Alliance, they had funded gain-of-function research after Obama had...
01:34:53.000The idea is supposedly to study it, but if you're studying it and you don't have a fucking cure, You've been studying this shit for so long and you don't have a cure.
01:35:03.000You know, this is one of the things that Bobby's talked about with Lyme disease, you know, where they try to get him on Lyme disease, which is a very funny grilling.
01:35:11.000They say, did you say that Lyme disease was a leaked bioweapon?
01:36:24.000Those fucking things don't work either.
01:36:26.000Those things, and he's talked about that, like even if it protects you from that one flu, it makes you many more times more likely to catch other things.
01:36:34.000We're fucking around with complex systems inside human bodies with pharmaceutical drugs that have been...
01:36:43.000The way they've studied them is filled with shenanigans.
01:36:47.000They might do 10 studies and one of them shows effectiveness because they've rigged the study in a certain way.
01:36:54.000He explained to me that the reason why they could say it's 100% effective was because one person got it in the vaccine trial and two people got it in the placebo.
01:37:28.000He litigated against pharmaceutical drug companies, particularly against Vioxx, when they released this anti-inflammatory medication, Vioxx, and some...
01:39:54.000And I also think things are going to get really weird with AI. I think with AI, and especially when AI gets attached to quantum computing, we're going to have an undeniable access to truth that's going to be very disconcerting to a lot of people.
01:40:12.000We're going to have an understanding of the reality of the world that we live in that's going to be very undeniable.
01:40:49.000I mean, I don't look at individual presidents, because I just look at, like, overall, the presidents have to bow down and kiss the ring, no matter who it is.
01:43:11.000Went to jail, became literate, and then became a lawyer in jail, and then figured out that they tried him on the three strikes rule incorrectly, got out of jail.
01:43:21.000And yeah, now he runs weed dispensaries in California.
01:43:34.000He stole his name from Freeway Rick Ross.
01:43:37.000Rick Ross was a famous street gangster.
01:43:41.000This famous street coke dealer who was making millions of dollars a week and couldn't read.
01:43:47.000He was a tennis player, a really good tennis player, who then used the discipline of being a tennis player to become a very disciplined drug dealer.
01:45:50.000Just constantly concentrating all these different cases where it's like, you know, corrupt DAs, corrupt prosecutors, corrupt judges.
01:45:58.000It's like, you know, it's all over the place.
01:46:01.000Like one of the guys that Biden pardoned was one of the people that was involved in that Kids for Cash where they were putting kids in detention centers just for profit.
01:46:19.000There was a judge in Pennsylvania that was making millions of dollars through putting kids in detention centers and ruining kids' lives, causing suicides, deaths, a downward spiral of their life, like wrongfully detaining them.
01:47:17.000Decide to take a better path in jail and educate themselves and learn and come out a better person I've met a lot of those people and unfortunately I've met a lot of those people from Josh Dubin that were wrongly incarcerated and then came out these amazing Incredibly intelligent really well-read interesting people because they dedicated themselves to doing that while they were in jail because they realized like I did not commit this crime I'm forced into this situation What can I do to make better of my life while I'm here?
01:47:42.000Well, I'm gonna educate myself and I'm gonna come out a better person That's great By the way, I wouldn't mind a pre-pardon.
01:52:35.000I mean, if you've got a place where now they've taken over the heroin production of the world, and all of a sudden you have a military coup.
01:55:38.000And it's also, it amplifies the worst aspects of our society, which is, like, shitty division.
01:55:43.000It's like, shitty division is what gets a lot of clicks.
01:55:46.000You know, partisan thoughts and attacking people, tribal thinking.
01:55:52.000That's what gets the most clicks and that's what you see the most.
01:55:54.000But there's enough exposing of actual legitimate corruption and information about what's actually going on in the world that I get out of there that it balances it out for me to the point where I'm willing to engage in it to a certain extent, but I don't do it at night.
01:56:09.000And I don't do it when I think it's gonna, like, fuck me up before I go to bed.
01:56:13.000I don't do it if there's anything I really have to concentrate on, because I don't want some new pathway to open up my mind where now I'm concerned about this.
01:56:22.000But you, you know, all of that adversity you face, do you feel like it actually increased your popularity?
01:57:21.000So the Bob Lazar one, you know, Bob Lazar is.
01:57:25.000Bob Lazar is the guy that in 1989, he did an interview with George Knapp in Las Vegas, and he said he was working back-engineering UFOs for the government.
01:57:38.000And he has this crazy fucking story about working at Area S4, Site 4, and Area 51 in the Nevada desert, which at that point in time, the government would deny that Area 51 even existed.
01:57:50.000And he's like, no, I work out there, and I was working.
01:57:53.000Back-engineering propulsion systems from crashed UFOs.
01:57:57.000And he was explaining how these things work and explaining how it's in some sort of a gravity propulsion device that works completely different than any propulsion device that we've ever devised and that they're trying to back-engineer them.
01:58:25.000And he was brought in apparently after – allegedly after an accident where they tried to cut into the reactor and it exploded and people died.
01:58:33.000And so they said, OK, well, that's not going to work.
01:58:35.000Let's try another method, bring in some other people.
01:58:38.000And he was one of the people they brought in.
01:58:40.000And when you have top secret clearance, what happens is they tap all your phones.
01:59:03.000And so because his wife was having an affair and they knew it from the phone calls, they thought that he was going to be emotionally unstable, so they removed him from the project.
01:59:11.000So he gets removed from the project and he says, well...
01:59:23.000That thing on the desk right there, that's the recreation of what he called the sport model that they worked on that has this flying saucy that's behind the antlers.
02:00:23.000But he's told the same goddamn story for all these years, and he's obviously a brilliant guy.
02:00:28.000He's obviously very literate in science, really understands what he's saying.
02:00:33.000And many of the things that he said from that particular interview have been corroborated by other people, including his knowledge of Los Alamos Labs.
02:00:44.000They tried to say he never worked there, but they found him on the employee roster.
02:01:18.000It's like if this guy's telling the same goddamn story and then they have all these videos of these things that the go fast video and the FLIR video that the government's released that were covered in the New York Times and these crafts are exhibiting the same sort of behavior that he was explaining in 1989. Particularly in they fly like this but then when they want to go fast they rotate sideways and point whatever this gravity propulsion Whatever this thing is,
02:01:45.000this generator, and they shoot this way, and take off.
02:01:49.000And there's videos of these things doing this.
02:01:59.000So that video on YouTube got 60 million views, and then on all the other platforms, who knows how many, and all the clips, it's probably hundreds of millions.
02:03:51.000And then they communicated with him and then returned him.
02:03:54.000And the thing about it is like all these experiences, these people talk about the exact same creatures.
02:04:00.000They talk about the exact same entities, these things with big heads and large eyes and spindly bodies, and they're communicating telepathically.
02:04:15.000And the problem is if it happened to you, who the fuck is going to believe you?
02:04:18.000It's a unique experience, a completely novel experience that only you have.
02:04:22.000And then you have to go and try to make sense of it to other people that haven't experienced it, and they're going to think you're fucking crazy.
02:04:29.000But if you have enough of these people that say the same story over and over and over again, which is if you read John Mack, he was a psychologist from Harvard that did a lot of hypnotic regression work with people that have had alien abductions.
02:08:08.000He was talking to us about different ways that people have been busted cheating, different people signaling them in the room, moving to different parts of the room if they wanted the piece to move in a different area.
02:09:24.000I guess you would do it like vibrate a certain amount of times first to indicate the letter and then a couple times to indicate the number.
02:11:38.00089, where Louis Pasteur stood before the French Academy of Science and said, I've realized the origin of all disease and it's the germ theory.
02:11:50.000And he took credit for the germ theory, which of course had been around for centuries at that point.
02:12:48.000Pasteur, who was on the same committee, ends up reading these papers and basically kind of putting his own spin on it and getting credit for, you know, the fermentation, the soapworm, the wine thing.
02:13:00.000You know, like each thing, he becomes more and more famous.
02:13:03.000And until he's able to sit down in front of Napoleon in 1863, Napoleon III, he said, I will eliminate all disease.
02:13:48.000And then in this blank, pristine, blank slate environment, it causes damage, maybe sickness, and eventually death.
02:13:56.000To me, I don't believe this theory as much as I do the terrain theory, which is that your health is dependent upon your internal biological terrain and your internal filthiness or cleanliness.
02:14:13.000And so that's what I believe is where people's immune system gets messed up from what they're consuming.
02:14:21.000And in a nutshell, that's why I believe in Beauchamp's theory as opposed to the germ theory.
02:14:36.000I mean, we know for a fact that one of the main...
02:14:40.000Factors in eliminating diseases in North America was when they started having hygiene and when they started having flowing water and sewage systems and that just having cleanliness.
02:14:58.000I mean, most cities at the turn of the century were filled with filth.
02:15:02.000I mean, during the smallpox epidemic, people lived Terrible.
02:15:07.000They lived in filth when you had the various, like there's a bunch of different diseases that can be attributed to poor hygiene.
02:15:16.000Poor hygiene, no access to antibiotics, no access to any kind of medicine.
02:15:21.000And we all attribute that just to a disease broke out.
02:15:34.000They didn't have any sort of antibiotics, and including, like, when people talk about the Spanish flu, like, if the Spanish flu broke out today, we'd be fucked.
02:18:26.000The real way is to prevent it, though, because once you actually get staph, especially if it's aggressive, you've got to take antibiotics or you're fucked.
02:18:51.000Yeah, it gets into your blood and goes into your whole body, and then you're fucked.
02:18:55.000You really have to get on heavy, hardcore IV antibiotics for long stretches of time.
02:19:00.000I've had friends that have huge scars on their body because they got a massive MRSA infection in their knees, and then they had to get it all, what?
02:22:05.000Nootropics are essentially nutrients that contribute to cognitive function, building blocks for human neurotransmitters, acetylcholine, theanine, things along those lines.
02:22:17.000No, I don't do that, but I'm open-minded.
02:22:34.000The thing about it is you could almost take stuff all day long because there's so many different things that could benefit you.
02:22:41.000You'd have to have a fucking stack of shit in front of you all day long, which gets tiresome.
02:22:49.000Yeah, I mean, I much prefer, I mean, I think the best thing for restoring health, for if you're sick and you want to get better, is fasting.
02:27:57.000God, there's people out there like Joel Salatin, who runs Polyface Farms, and Will Harris, who runs White Oak Pastures, who have educated these people and written books and gone on these tours and explained to people.
02:28:09.000Will Harris, who's been on the podcast a couple of times, he spent 20 years changing his family farm, which was an industrial farm, into regenerative agriculture.
02:28:20.000And you can see the difference in the soil.
02:28:49.000If the real value, if the real expense of what happens to that soil were experienced by the American taxpayer, I think there'd be a revolt.
02:29:04.000Well, the real problem is we have so many people that need food and that we're reliant upon factory farming right now to a large extent because there's...
02:29:16.000Enormous populations of people that live in a place where they grow nothing.
02:29:20.000Whether it's New York City or it's Los Angeles, urban environments, they need food constantly shipped into them and no one's growing anything.
02:29:27.000And the population keeps booming and you've got to get these people food.
02:29:32.000And we right now are dependent upon factory farming for a lot of that food.
02:29:38.000Well, I wonder if you could, through regenerative farming, cover it.