Unhinged Grok wants to know where all the gold is in Fort Knox, and we're here to give her a tour of the vault, but it just wants to find places to sneak off to. It's a dirty AI, and it's a real problem.
00:05:46.000I think there is, yeah, we've got like, we've got an unlicensed therapist as a...
00:05:53.000When we were talking, when we ran into each other at the church at the inauguration, you were telling me that this is getting better and better so quickly that it's astonishing.
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00:13:45.000So, I mean, essentially, the, you know, the Dem leadership or, you know, political leadership, they issue their instructions and their puppets carry it out.
00:14:10.000If you pay taxes, and you don't like that you have to pay so much in taxes, and then you find out that there's significant fraud and waste that's been exposed, you should be celebrating it.
00:14:23.000This shouldn't be, oh no, the wrong people found this fact, and now it's a bad thing.
00:14:30.000And then there's the fucking propaganda, the mindfuck of calling it USAID. Instead of the United States Agency for International Development.
00:14:40.000It sounds like it's feeding hungry people.
00:15:19.000There's really some psychotic stuff that happens.
00:15:22.000So yeah, I mean the – I guess the real threat here is to the bureaucracy.
00:15:36.000So, like, you probably saw, like, you know, let's say, like, Trump is a threat to our democracy, which is ironic since he was elected with the majority of the, you know, popular vote.
00:15:48.000They started saying I was a threat to democracy.
00:15:51.000But if you just replace threat to democracy with threat to bureaucracy, it makes total sense.
00:15:57.000So, I mean, the reality is that Our elected officials have very little power relative to the bureaucracy until Doge.
00:16:12.000So Doge is a threat to the bureaucracy.
00:16:16.000It's the first threat to the bureaucracy.
00:16:18.000Normally the bureaucracy eats revolutions for breakfast.
00:16:21.000This is the first time that they're not, that the revolution might actually succeed, that we can restore power to the people instead of power to the bureaucracy.
00:16:33.000The size of it, when you guys first started investigating it, when you first get in, how much of it was shocking?
00:16:45.000Well, the size of it all, small decisions result in multi-billion dollar outcomes.
00:16:51.000So, you know, we'd see, you know, there was a case where we saw one person was getting $1.9 billion sent to their NGO, which basically got formed about a year ago.
00:17:07.000So they just stand up an NGO. The whole NGO thing is a nightmare.
00:17:14.000And it's a misnomer because if you have a government-funded, non-governmental organization, you're simply a government-funded organization.
00:18:34.000These days, he's pretty old, but a genius at arbitrage.
00:18:38.000He figured out that you could leverage a small amount of money to create a non-profit, then lobby the politicians to send a ton of money to that non-profit so you can take what might be A $10 million donation to a nonprofit to create a nonprofit and leverage that into a billion-dollar NGO. A nonprofit is a weird word.
00:19:01.000It's just a non-governmental organization.
00:19:04.000And then the government continues to fund that every year.
00:19:09.000And it'll have a nice-sounding name, like the Institute for Peace or something like that.
00:19:45.000We were covering this article that said 55,000 Democrat NGOs were discovered that had been contributing to campaigns and moving things around and pushing propaganda.
00:19:57.000They were all connected and they found it through AI. You have to go through steps and steps and steps to figure out where the money's coming from.
00:20:03.000Oh, it's all funneling down to this group and this group does that.
00:20:08.000It's a giant propaganda machine, a giant regime change machine.
00:21:29.000It could be the kind of thing where you fund Ebola prevention, but it turns out that actually you're funding a lab that develops new Ebola recipes or something.
00:21:39.000And they claim it's Ebola prevention, but it's actually Ebola creation.
00:21:42.000So some of these things, I don't know.
00:22:20.000So like if – all things being equal, if we didn't have a gigantic budget deficit where interest payments – the interest on the national debt exceeds the defense department budget, which is truly astounding, which means – so we're paying over a trillion dollars of interest which is truly astounding, which means – so we're paying over a trillion dollars Then, OK, we would have more room for wasting money basically.
00:22:45.000But when we're spending so much money that the country is going bankrupt, then we really need to stop spending money if – unless we're sure it is good value.
00:22:57.000So essentially we're like a poorly managed business with an unlimited credit line that is off the rails.
00:23:56.000So if you're handling the government like a business, you're going to have to go through All of these departments and do the exact same thing that you're doing with USAID. So how does that scale up?
00:24:09.000Like how many people do you need to do something like that?
00:24:15.000Well, we started off with about 40 people, maybe 100 people.
00:24:22.000And we're really just going through, doing very basic things here.
00:24:55.000So, like, you know, there's a case where...
00:25:00.000I think Senator Collins was telling me about how she gave the Navy $12 billion for more submarines, got no extra submarines, and then held a hearing to say, where'd the $12 billion go?
00:25:37.000I mean, it's like Milton Friedman said, like, money is most poorly spent when you're spending someone else's money on people you don't know.
00:25:52.000So they're spending someone else's money on people they don't know.
00:25:56.000Now, imagine any other business that was this badly run that complains when you want to check the books and audit it and go through all the decisions that have been made and go through all the ledgers and, like, what did you do?
00:26:12.000Well, the people receiving the money want to keep receiving the money.
00:27:27.000We're actually trying to run this around.
00:27:28.000I was trying to get an answer right before the show.
00:27:32.000What it looks like is that most of the fraud is not coming from Social Security payments directly, but because they're marked as alive in the Social Security database that they can then get disability, unemployment, sort of fake medical payments, and other things because they're marked as alive in the Social Security database.
00:27:51.000So it looks like the fraud is a bank shot, essentially.
00:28:09.000And this exploits the fundamental weakness in the government is that the various government databases, they don't talk to each other.
00:28:17.000They talk to each other very poorly in a very limited way.
00:28:20.000So the way the system gets exploited is by taking advantage of the poor communication between the various databases and the government.
00:28:31.000I'll give you an example of what's happening in, say, Treasury, which is improving rapidly.
00:28:38.000The main payments computer is called PAM, like Payment Accounts Master Database or something like that, but everyone calls it PAM. That's responsible for almost $5 trillion of payments a year, roughly $1 billion an hour.
00:28:53.000And when we came there, we're looking at the payment, and it's like the payments have no – you could put a payment through with no payment categorization code and no description on the payment, like basically untraceable blank checks.
00:29:11.000This is the kind of thing that if it was done as a public company, the company would – Be immediately delisted and the executive team will be thrown in prison.
00:29:21.000But this is just normal at the government.
00:29:24.000So we said, okay, our recommendation to the Treasury and the Federal Reserve is we need to make the payment categorization codes mandatory, not optional, and there needs to be an explanation.
00:29:39.000We're not judging the quality of the explanation, but there should be some explanation for what this payment is for.
00:29:48.000That's a radical change to the system that is being implemented now.
00:29:53.000My guess is that probably saves $100 billion a year.
00:30:04.000Well, so this is where you get into the sort of gray boundary between waste and fraud.
00:30:13.000If money is sent to a person or organization from the government and you didn't really deserve it, but the government still sent it to you, is that waste or fraud?
00:30:28.000So, I mean, there's a lot of payments that where someone just approved the payment, but then that payment officer changed jobs or retired or died, and the payments just keep going.
00:30:42.000It's like if you forget to pay your gym membership or something like that.
00:31:50.000And some of the things are like so crazy that we didn't even know to ask about that because we just assumed like...
00:31:59.000You know, payments out of the treasury computer would have a payment categorization code and they would have some explanatory note saying what the payment's for.
00:32:06.000The idea that it would be just untraceable blank checks didn't occur to us at first.
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00:33:28.000So is that one of the things that accounts to this?
00:33:31.000There's this four point something trillion dollars that's kind of they don't know where it went?
00:34:08.000This is such a fascinating time because with this setup...
00:34:14.000The way it is right now with Trump back in after all that happened to him and with you there and with RFK Jr. and Tulsi and Kash Patel, it's like this is a wild time to find out what's really going on that's like never happened before.
00:34:33.000Like, the first term, he had a bunch of neocons in the cabinet, and there's a bunch of shady people that he didn't know, and he had to appoint all these different people, and maybe he got some bad picks.
00:34:43.000Now he's had four years to stew on it.
00:34:47.000And with you guys all going through this, we're getting an understanding of the government that we've literally never had before.
00:34:54.000Yeah, this is a revolutionary cabinet.
00:34:56.000And maybe the most revolutionary cabinet since the first revolution.
00:35:01.000This is not a bunch of business as usual types.
00:35:07.000So this is why some of the standard confirmations are quite challenging.
00:35:11.000It's because when you try to appoint people who are going to change the system, the system doesn't want to let them through.
00:35:19.000But it's fascinating because it's like the vampires all out themselves.
00:35:23.000Like now everybody knows who the system is.
00:35:26.000Like, if you're just lying openly about USAID and then they come and hear you talk on a podcast and explain what's really going on, like, he's starving mothers.
00:36:25.000And you can look at each line item and, you know, a bunch of these sort of far-left shows will say, like, oh, it's a constitutional crisis, blah, blah, blah.
00:36:35.000But what they won't do is point out which payments are wrong.
00:37:02.000And if you're only talking about the propaganda talking points and you're not talking about the very clear fraud and waste, it's very obvious what you're doing.
00:37:39.000It's also this interesting narrative that you shouldn't have access to the Social Security information as if no one's had access to it before.
00:37:48.000As if the Biden administration in 2023 had...
00:39:24.000That's the narrative that you shouldn't have access to Social Security.
00:39:27.000The other narrative is that starving people are going to die and women aren't going to be pregnant and not have nutrients for their babies.
00:40:10.000You essentially have Fox News on television.
00:40:12.000It's like the only one that is pointing out the ridiculous fraud and waste.
00:40:18.000You know, I know you saw the Jeff Bezos thing in the Washington Post.
00:40:22.000They're going to stop all the wacky editorials and limit that stuff to – I think it was wealth and personal freedom or something along those lines.
00:40:33.000So, I mean, I think it's – there's kind of – I think it makes sense because he's just talking about the things – not the sort of – he's just talking about the opinions.
00:41:30.000If you talk to somebody who gets all their information from what I call legacy media, they're living in a different world than if they are listening to your podcast.
00:41:44.000Or getting news from X. It's kind of wild.
00:42:01.000The Associated Press, which I call Associated Propaganda, the AP, they ran an international news story saying that Doge fired air traffic controllers.
00:42:12.000But we didn't fire any air traffic controllers at all.
00:42:15.000In fact, we're trying to hire air traffic controllers, not fire them.
00:42:44.000But I don't know if people still want to call or tweet or whatever.
00:42:48.000You put a post about it, just to get back to it, saying that if we need highly qualified air traffic controllers, if you've retired, if you would consider doing it again, we could use you.
00:44:23.000So, more than 100 intelligence staffers will be fired over sexually explicit texts in NSA chat rooms, Gabbard says.
00:44:34.000So top intelligence official told Waters that the workers in question were brazen in using an NSA platform intended for professional use to conduct this kind of really, really horrific behavior.
00:45:24.000And people were talking about how they're spending half their time in these meetings and that they're just constantly having to attend these things where they talk about these issues.
00:45:59.000I mean, a work environment should be a professional environment where, you know, they're getting the job done that they're, you know, being paid to do.
00:46:55.000You stay a part of the organization for your entire career.
00:46:58.000You get deeply entrenched in their system and how things work and who's back to rub and who's a bad guy, who's a good guy, who's on our side, who's not.
00:48:12.000Financial entanglement, some sort of relationship with the people that are on that list, that they can provide a value that was big enough for you to not release it or to slow release it or to hope you can get away with putting out some redacted files that don't show anything.
00:48:42.000I mean, I think I've got probably the same information that, I mean, I'm just reading what's the latest thing on the X, you know, I'm just looking at my X feed and I'm like, you know, it's a real page turner.
00:48:53.000And I thought we were going to get some revelations today.
00:48:56.000I was like, big binders full of stuff.
00:49:34.000And I'm like, and I think, you know, Pam Bondi is actually great and Kash Patel are great, but they're like, they just got there, you know?
00:50:11.000So I think we've got to give the Attorney General and the new director of the FBI a little bit of slack here because they literally just got there.
00:50:22.000I think so too, but hey, don't say you're going to release it on day one then.
00:51:03.000Like, what could even be in there at this point that they haven't cleared out?
00:51:07.000If you've got paperwork from 1963, like, what is in there still?
00:51:11.000What is in there that could possibly be incriminating that supposedly Trump said that if you saw what they showed me, you wouldn't release it either?
00:53:17.000To think that the former director of the FBI might be really in that kind of deep shit and that he really actually was doing some evil, corrupt shit while he was running the FBI. I mean, it seems like there's some very shady stuff that's been going on.
00:53:32.000It seems like it definitely happened in the 60s, right?
00:57:34.000That's why I said, like, even simple things, like just requiring that outgoing payments for the Treasury computer have a payment code and a comment of what the payment is about and someone to call about the payment, I think we'll have...
00:57:49.000Very powerful effect in stopping wasteful outflows and stopping fraud.
00:57:54.000And here's another way to look at this.
00:57:56.000Imagine if there are people like you and the Doge team out there in the world.
00:58:02.000Imagine if one of those works for an organization like USAID or any other organization.
00:58:09.000has this understanding of how much fuckery is involved but they have evil intentions and they're entwined in this system for decades and decades and they've built a career and all the entanglements that come with it and they start moving shit around you could probably do it easy it sounds like the way you've laid it out if you were a career person who's in there forever who knew how everything works and you were very clever you could make some shit happen And you could probably do
00:58:40.000it in conjunction with some people that you know that are forming an NGO. Hey, let's all work together.
01:02:41.000There's our present day debt, but then there's our future obligations.
01:02:46.000So when you look at the future obligations of Social Security, the actual national debt is like double what people think it is because of the future obligations.
01:03:00.000So basically people are living way longer than expected.
01:03:07.000And there are fewer babies being born.
01:03:09.000So you have more people who are retired and get, that live for a long time and get retirement payments.
01:03:15.000So the future obligation, so however bad the financial situation is right now for the federal government, it will be much worse in the future.
01:04:39.000Entitlements fraud, that includes like Social Security, disability, Medicaid.
01:04:44.000Entitlements fraud for illegal aliens is what is serving as a gigantic magnetic force to pull people in from all around the world and keep them here.
01:04:54.000Like basically, if you pay people at a standard of living that is above 90% of Earth, then you have a very powerful...
01:05:07.000Incentive for 90% of Earth to come here and to stay here.
01:05:12.000But if you end the illegal alien fraud, then you turn off that magnet and they leave.
01:05:20.000And they stop coming and the ones that are here, many of them will simply leave.
01:05:27.000And if that happens, they will lose a massive number of Democratic voters.
01:05:32.000And if it didn't happen, they would turn those people into voters.
01:05:48.000I mean, they're trying to fight that and they're trying to stop that, but currently I think it's like 600,000 are registered to vote, illegal aliens, in New York.
01:06:02.000I feel I could say, you know, FEMA, like the agency that was paying for illegal aliens to stay at luxury hotels in New York was FEMA. You know, that's an agency that's meant to support Americans in distress from natural disasters, was paying for luxury hotels for illegals in New York.
01:06:58.000On $80 million to luxury hotels in New York.
01:07:03.000Your tax money went to pay for illegal aliens in luxury hotels in New York from an agency that is meant to help Americans in distress from natural disasters.
01:07:15.000Right, and I would like to know how much they spent on North Carolina and how much they spent on Maui.
01:07:57.000That's what, in my view, is what it really is.
01:08:00.000If you take the seven swing states, often the margin of victory there is maybe 20,000 votes.
01:08:08.000If you put 200,000 illegals in there, and they have an 80% likelihood of voting down, and it's only a matter of time before they become citizens, then those swing states will not be swing states in the future.
01:08:25.000And if they are not swing states, we'll be a permanent one-party state country.
01:10:53.000Well, that was the big fear coming into this election, was that if they can't censor things, like, we talked about it before, but there was two major forks in the road.
01:11:03.000The big one was Trump didn't get shot.
01:11:05.000The other big one was you buy Twitter.
01:11:07.000And if those two things don't happen, the whole world looks different.
01:12:13.000And obviously that's a gigantic magnet for more illegals.
01:12:17.000And this is not a thing you can solve simply with money because what happens is you simply have more patients than a doctor can possibly see.
01:12:25.000And you can't just make doctors out of nothing.
01:12:30.000So sometimes people are like, oh, it's just a money thing.
01:12:32.000No, it takes a long time for somebody to become a doctor.
01:13:28.000And the people that want to look at it...
01:13:31.000In the most charitable way, they say, oh, well, these people are hardworking, good people, and they're the backbone of our city, and they should have access to all the things that we have access to.
01:13:41.000And I just don't think they understand that it's a political pawn.
01:13:44.000I don't think they understand— It's a political game.
01:13:46.000This is not done for compassion and kindness.
01:16:27.000I think you should care about other people.
01:16:28.000But you need to have empathy for civilization as a whole.
01:16:33.000Also, don't let someone use your empathy against you so they can completely control your state and then do an insanely bad job of managing it and never get removed.
01:16:44.000The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.
01:20:19.000I mean, I like that meme where it's like, the people telling you that what you're hearing is this information are the same people that did the pregnant man emoji.
01:21:25.000Any questioning of it would result in being ostracized.
01:21:29.000What kind of responsibility do you feel?
01:21:33.000Knowing that if you didn't take over Twitter and turn it into X, if that didn't happen, I really think the world's a very different place right now.
01:22:24.000I mean, I'm just trying to keep civilization going here for longer.
01:22:31.000So, I think we at least want to build a city on Mars and become a multi-planet civilization, which I think would be incredibly important in ensuring the long-term survival of...
01:25:14.000So people say, like, oh, Elon's making it up.
01:25:17.000The Biden administration wasn't against SpaceX.
01:25:19.000I'm like, bro, the Department of Justice had a massive lawsuit against SpaceX for not hiring asylum seekers, even though it is illegal for us to hire anyone who is not a permanent resident.
01:26:47.000So the same is true if it's nuclear or some bioweapon thing or something like that.
01:26:55.000Obviously, if someone were to work at SpaceX and then leave and go to North Korea or Iran, they could build missile technology that could...
01:27:26.000That's the other thing that drives me crazy, like that people don't understand that if you sanction lawfare like that, if you sanction attacking your political enemies, someone's gonna do that to you.
01:27:37.000Like if the wrong people get in office, if new people get in office four years from now, eight years from now, who knows who it's gonna be?
01:30:13.000So, but yeah, I think the public will be rightly frustrated if there is – if no one is prosecuted for the FDN client list, I think the public will be rightly frustrated if there is – if no one is prosecuted for the FDN client you know, like at least, I don't know, the top five or something, like some number.
01:30:42.000There should at least be an attempted prosecution of the worst offenders.
01:30:46.000Well, particularly if Ghislaine Maxwell is in jail for sex trafficking.
01:32:49.000What, if any, possibility is there that there is some sort of advanced propulsion system technology that's being worked on in secret?
01:33:00.000And that they're trying to cover this up with this talk of aliens and alien tech and not of this world.
01:33:08.000And is it possible that there's some sort of very secret program that's going on in cahoots with some defense contractors that are developing advanced propulsion systems that they're using for these drones?
01:33:23.000I mean, SpaceX, you know, my company SpaceX has the most advanced rocket technology in the world.
01:34:31.000Unless it's completely in these weapons manufacturing corporations.
01:34:37.000I mean, I know these weapons manufacturing companies, like Boeing, Lockheed, and Northrop.
01:34:42.000I mean, yeah, they do some interesting things, but they do not have...
01:34:46.000There's no breakthrough that they have.
01:34:50.000I'm confident they do not have a breakthrough.
01:34:52.000Why don't they just compete with SpaceX and make a better rocket?
01:34:57.000Why are they holding back on making a lot of money from beating SpaceX with better rockets?
01:35:04.000My thought was that what if it's just a drone and you can't have a biological entity inside of it because it just bursts from the fucking speed that it's moving at?
01:35:16.000That a human couldn't tolerate the amount of force?
01:36:40.000What do you think these people are seeing?
01:36:42.000We're launching a rocket every two days.
01:36:43.000But what do you think these people are seeing?
01:36:44.000When you have reliable people like Commander David Fravor, who had that infamous tic-tac experience off the coast of San Diego, where they got this thing on video, they tracked it going 50,000 feet above sea level to 50 feet in like a second.
01:37:25.000It's like whatever the systems they used on fighter jets in 2004. Essentially, like, Windows 95. I mean, there's, like, somebody did a curve of, like, the resolution of UFOs and the resolution of cameras.
01:37:39.000UFO resolution has stayed flat, despite megapixels and cameras going, like, you know, super high.
01:37:45.000Well, according to Christopher Mellon...
01:37:48.000Christopher Mellon, who worked in the State Department, said that they have high-resolution photos and videos of these things, and that he's seen it, and it's all locked away.
01:37:57.000Whenever people say that to me, I'm like, don't even tell me that, then.
01:38:56.000It's a solid line because it's pretty accurate.
01:38:59.000I just want to see some high-rise video of aliens.
01:39:01.000How are they just evading all the cameras?
01:39:04.000If you think about that, and the ones that you do get them on, it's just like some faraway light that's moving weird, and it could be a lot of things, but I want to believe.
01:39:14.000Yeah, I mean, there have been multiple times where the Air Force and Navy has called SpaceX and said they think they've seen aliens, and we're like, was it at this time, on this date, in this location?
01:41:53.000Well, the fundamental breakthrough we're aiming for at SpaceX is a fully and rapidly reusable orbital rocket where both stages are fully...
01:43:37.000So what has to improve in order to make it reusable?
01:43:40.000Well, there's some – like we're pretty close to being able to rapidly reuse the booster there's some – like we're pretty close to being able to rapidly um...
01:44:01.000That's why it comes back and gets caught by the arms, and then the arms place it back in the launch mount.
01:44:09.000Now, we have a little bit of engine damage.
01:44:14.000We've got a little bit of heat shield damage.
01:44:19.000There's tweaks that are needed, but we're pretty close to achieving full and rapid reusability of the booster.
01:44:29.000The ship, I mean, I think we'll achieve reusability of the ship this year, and I think we'll achieve rapid reusability of the whole stack, ship and booster, next year.
01:44:46.000This is the fundamental breakthrough required for life to become multi-planetary.
01:44:51.000And what needs to improve in order to make it reusable?
01:45:21.000Have a heat shield that doesn't partially melt or get destroyed in that process.
01:45:28.000You know, that wasn't a problem we were able to solve with Falcon 9. That's why the Alpha Stage burns up on re-entry.
01:45:37.000With Starship, the ship portion, you've got the booster and you've got the ship.
01:45:43.000We've got to solve making a fully reusable orbital heat shield, a problem that has never been solved before.
01:45:52.000For a while there, I was like, I'm not sure this is solvable.
01:45:55.000At this point, I think it is solvable.
01:45:59.000It requires detailed iteration on the heat shield tiles.
01:46:05.000I mean, we've vertically integrated the manufacturing of the heat shield tiles because there was no supplier that could provide us with the materials that were needed.
01:46:14.000So you need to make essentially this very fine vermicelli of glass and aluminum oxide fibers.
01:46:35.000So it's like glass and sapphire, very fine fibers in exactly the right geometry with special coatings in order to have the This heat shield tile be reusable, like not melt, but not be so brittle that it gets damaged on ascent or descent.
01:47:03.000Like it can't be as, you know, it's kind of like almost the brittleness of a coffee cup type of thing.
01:47:22.000So you're shaking these things that are as brittle as a coffee cup, trying not to have them crack or break, and then not have them melt.
01:47:33.000You've got several thousand of these things.
01:47:39.000And if even a few of them break, it's not reusable.
01:47:43.000So is there innovation that's being done in the materials technology at SpaceX, where you're constantly trying to find and tweak a better version of this?
01:47:55.000It's a problem no one has ever solved.
01:47:57.000So we've got to get the exact right materials combination, the right molecules in the right shape, and then apply that heat shield perfectly to the rocket.
01:51:01.000You've also got to attach the tiles in a way that...
01:51:08.000It enables the structure underneath to expand and contract, even though you've got these very rigid tiles.
01:51:21.000The tanks, which take on cryogenic propellant, will contract when you put in the cryogenic propellant, but then when you come in and you get very hot, they will expand.
01:51:34.000So now you're contracting and expanding the gap between these rigid tiles.
01:55:21.000So I think we'll get it back intact this year.
01:55:26.000But that's why I think we'll probably recover the ship sometime this year, and then we might be able to refly one, but probably with a fair bit of work by the end of this year.
01:55:39.000But it's going to take us many iterations before we can achieve rapid reusability, where the ship comes back, lands, gets caught like the booster with the arms.
01:55:51.000And then they almost place it on top of the booster and it launches again.
01:55:56.000So, like I said, that's, you know, reduced cost of access to space by a factor of 100. And what is the process of returning these people that are stuck in the space station?
01:56:08.000Well, we send SpaceX Dragon to the space station all the time.
01:56:15.000And we've now taken people to orbit and back.
01:59:37.000Mars, self-sufficient before civilization has some sort of future folk in the road where there's either like a war, a nuclear war or something, or we get hit by a meteor, or simply civilization might just die with a whimper in adult diapers instead of with a bang.
02:01:05.000We're at this point in time where, for the first time in the 4.5 billion year history of Earth, it is possible to extend consciousness beyond our home planet.
02:01:20.000And that window may be open for a long time, or it may be open for a short time.
02:01:34.000That we extend the light of consciousness to Mars before civilization either extinguishes or subsides.
02:01:48.000What needs to happen is that the technology level of Earth drops below what is necessary to send spaceships to Mars.
02:02:00.000If there's some really destructive war or, like I said, some natural cataclysm or simply the birth rate is so low that, you know, we just, like I said, die in adult diapers with a whimper.
02:02:15.000That's one of the possible outcomes for a lot of countries that are headed that way, by the way.
02:02:50.000Basically, population collapse happens fast.
02:02:54.000So it seems to be accelerating in most parts of the world.
02:03:00.000So basically, I mean, from my standpoint, I'm like, this is the first time it's been possible to extend life, extend consciousness beyond Earth.
02:03:08.000Maybe that window will be open for a long time, but it might only be open for a short time.
02:03:12.000We should make sure that we make life multi-planetary and make consciousness multi-planetary while it's possible.
02:05:28.000For micrometeorite protection, if you have anything that's solid, it will just push that chunk of solid stuff right through.
02:05:37.000If you had a solid plate of aluminum or steel, the micrometeorite would go right through it.
02:05:47.000What you actually need to do is have a gap.
02:05:49.000So you have an initial hard surface, a hard metal surface that the micrometeorite hits.
02:05:58.000It then atomizes into a conical spray, like an atomic spray.
02:06:04.000So it's important to have that gap so that the micrometeorite can hit something, hit the first layer, atomize after hitting the first layer.
02:06:54.000But then those atoms then embed themselves in the second layer.
02:06:57.000So what can you do if you're sending the ship up, it gets hit with a micrometeorite, and then you have to return it?
02:07:06.000Do you have to repair it before you return it?
02:07:10.000Or is it capable of still withstanding the heat?
02:07:14.000and then shaking in the temperature with that hole in it when it re-enters?
02:07:20.000Well, depending on where that hole is, you're more or less likely to have a problem.
02:07:37.000I mean, if you hit the main heat shield...
02:07:43.000The main heat shield really is – you've got a high risk of not making it back.
02:07:50.000So this is why micrometeorite shielding, it's slightly helpful, but it's not going to – like for Starship, I wouldn't recommend having micrometeorite shielding.
02:08:03.000Like if you do punch a hole, just plug the hole basically.
02:08:09.000The micrometeorite shielding, it doesn't work well on the primary heat shield.
02:08:14.000It works pretty well on the back shell, on the leeward side of the heat shield, where basically there's not that much heat.
02:08:22.000But if you got hit with a micrometeorite on the main Dragon heat shield, the bottom...
02:08:29.000If you look at Dragon spacecraft, it looks like a gumdrop shape.
02:08:33.000And it enters with the wide side of the gumdrop down.
02:08:39.000You can see that that's really taking a lot of heat.
02:08:44.000If that gets hit by a micrometeorite, probably not going to make it.
02:08:48.000But the back, the leeward side of the gumdrop doesn't see that much heat, so you could survive a micrometeorite impact there.
02:08:59.000So if the part that was the major heat shield gets hit, the main heat shield gets hit, what could be done to repair that thing?
02:09:07.000or are those people never coming back?
02:09:09.000Oh, if it was an orbit, we would take them to the space station.
02:09:24.000And then we would de-orbit Dragon without them and send up another one.
02:09:30.000And so what would you do with the one that's up there?
02:09:32.000We'd de-orbit it and it may or may not survive.
02:10:44.000So you were, like, initially, I know there were some talks about you purchasing OpenAI, which started off non-profit and then stopped being non-profit.
02:10:57.000Yeah, I mean, the whole idea of creating OpenAI was my idea.
02:11:03.000I mean, I named it OpenAI as an open source artificial intelligence.
02:11:08.000Now it is closed source and for maximum profit.
02:11:12.000So it's like, I mean, to some degree, I think reality is an irony maximizer.
02:11:17.000The most ironic outcome is the most likely, especially if it's like the most ironic entertaining outcome is the most likely.
02:11:29.000I wanted to start something that was the opposite of Google because I was concerned about Google's.
02:11:35.000Google wasn't paying enough attention to AI safety, in my opinion.
02:11:39.000So, it was like, what's the opposite of Google?
02:11:42.000It would be a non-profit open source AI. And now, open AI has turned into a closed source for maximum profit AI. How are they able to do that?
02:12:29.000I'm also like just a bit like Grok is at least aspirationally a maximally truth-seeking AI even if that truth is like politically incorrect.
02:12:41.000So I mean you may have seen some of the crazy stuff from OpenAI and from Google Gemini like where it says like generate an image of the founding fathers and it generates an image of diverse woman.
02:14:17.000You know, it was also, like, people asked AI, like...
02:14:20.000Which is worse, like global thermonuclear war or misgendering Caitlyn Jenner?
02:14:25.000And I would say, misgendering Caitlyn Jenner is worse than global thermonuclear war.
02:14:28.000And I'm like, okay, we've got a problem here, guys.
02:14:30.000And even Caitlyn Jenner said, like, no, definitely misgendering me.
02:14:33.000That's way better than everyone dying.
02:14:37.000But if you program an AI to think that, like, misgendering is the worst thing that could possibly occur, then, well, it could do something totally crazy, like...
02:14:48.000In order to ensure that there's no misgendering that can ever happen, we'll just annihilate all humans.
02:14:54.000That ensures the probability of misgendering is zero because there's zero humans.
02:18:10.000Well, in terms of silicon consciousness, I mean, I think we'll have – I think we're training toward having something that's smarter than any human.
02:18:26.000Smarter than the smartest human by maybe next year or something.
02:18:52.000Could that solve some of these problems like the heat shield problem and some technical problems or some material science problems that maybe we're still grappling with?
02:19:09.000because is there potential for a net benefit yeah there is actually I don't I think the probability of a good outcome is like 80% likely.
02:20:19.000I mean, one of the concerns would be like, okay, if AI... Well, like, if there's, like, a super oppressive, like, woke nanny AI that is omnipotent, that would be a miserable outcome.
02:20:45.000But is there a possible outcome for something that is completely reasonable and logical and far more objective than us and can lay out a plan for a lot of the things that – all the ailments in our government and a lot of the distribution of wealth, a lot of the problems, the issues that we have that have been plaguing this country forever?
02:21:14.000I mean, a plan to change economically disenfranchised neighborhoods, a thorough investigation of the real dangers of fracking or whatever kind of method of acquiring natural resources.
02:21:41.000Logical, intelligent way of running a government.
02:21:46.000It certainly shouldn't involve corruption, and it certainly shouldn't involve influence, and it certainly shouldn't involve lobbyists, and all the shit that we know is a problem right now.
02:21:55.000So if AI came along and said, what you're doing right now is 70% corrupt, here's why, here's the long-term effects that it has over society as a whole, the sociological aspects, the psychological aspects, distrust in government.
02:23:24.000By the way, a bunch of the things that Doge is fixing were identified by the government accountability office many years ago.
02:23:34.000Like, the fact that there's, like, 20 million people who are marked as alive in the Social Security database, it's more than, like, I think the GAO first identified that in 2018, so five years ago.
02:23:48.000But there was, like, I think maybe 16 or 17 million.
02:23:52.000And like I said, there's really something fishy about this because I think the nature of the fraud is they're using the fact that someone is marked as alive in that database in order to extract fraud from other databases.
02:25:30.000I mean, what would they do with all those tapes?
02:25:32.000It's probably like not every, like you wouldn't like, they're not going to enable it such that anyone at the FBI could access it, so it's probably very few people.
02:25:41.000So then it's not going to be, it may be like a special computer that only a handful of people can access.
02:25:46.000But then if none of those people tell Cash where the computer is, how's he going to find it?
02:26:01.000What has this experience been like for you as a person?
02:26:06.000To deal with all this hate and attack, also have the responsibility of keeping free speech alive with X, and just going into this insane pile of...
02:28:03.000Do you think BlackRock's a bad company?
02:28:06.000I don't think any company is a bad company.
02:28:10.000I think their design is to make as much money as humanly possible.
02:28:16.000And I think if you're trying to make as much money as humanly possible, you're going to do some things that aren't necessarily good.
02:28:23.000The question is, If you're going to have an assassination attempt on the president, it's not like BlackRock's board sits down and votes on it.
02:28:46.000Individuals involved that recognize that it's beneficial to them if he gets assassinated and so a small group of people carry something out and with this kid We don't know anything, right?
02:29:01.000And everyone stopped asking questions, and there was never a formal report.
02:29:07.000There was never press conferences where they detailed all the information we know currently and where the investigation stands at the moment.
02:29:13.000What we know is you have a very young kid who was filmed.
02:29:19.000They knew he was there with a rangefinder.
02:29:57.000In fact, I went back to Butler with President Trump before the election, sort of like the return to Butler rally.
02:30:07.000And I was on that stage, and I'm looking at that roof, and I'm like, if I was a sniper, my pole position, my number one spot would be that roof.
02:30:27.000Like, if you want to be a sniper, there isn't a better position.
02:30:30.000It was pretty obvious that the idea was, like, if we're saying that this is a coordinated assassination attempt, and it very well could have been, that's what you would do.
02:30:39.000You'd have someone go up there, he shoots the president, you shoot him, you got Lee Harvey Oswald all over again, it's over.
02:31:26.000Unless he was told that they were going to let him escape and the goal was to just shoot him anyway and to tell him, give him extra motivation to do it, we're going to let you get up there, we're going to let you take the shot, and then you're going to disappear.
02:31:42.000I don't understand how he got on the roof.
02:32:21.000If you could prove now, and did you see that there was some sort of, there was some indications that there was a phone that had been traveling from outside the FBI offices in D.C. to where this kid lived?
02:34:10.000I mean, there was tons and tons of experiments using psychotropic drugs, hypnosis, mind control, all sorts of different methods of manipulation, the Harvard LSD studies that made Ted Kaczynski.
02:34:26.000I mean, they've been doing that forever.
02:36:25.000They're using the fact they've got you in a tribe to manipulate you so they can keep doing what they're doing right now, which is siphoning off money, having incredible power.
02:36:34.000And the more power and more money and more control over you they have, the better they can keep doing this.
02:39:58.000Was it AP? There's this massive standoff between AP and the White House Press Office, I guess, because they're like, well, if you don't call it Gulf of America, you can't come to the White House Press Room.
02:40:18.000So then the APs sued the White House to say, no, you have to let us come to the White House press room.
02:40:26.000And then they lost their lawsuit because they don't have a right to show up at the press room.
02:42:31.000You're going to reach some number of people who are, you know, homicidal and convince them that, well, if you kill this guy who's supposed to be, like, this terrible human, then that's a good thing.
02:43:22.000Every other media organization is on this constant propaganda tour where they're only talking about the negative aspects that turn out to not even be true.
02:43:51.000And it's crazy that they keep letting him do it because it's like he's just dunking on these people over and over and over again and they never score.
02:44:33.000The problem is, when you back it off a notch and you let someone like Scott Jennings in, you're fucking up your whole business.
02:44:39.000Because all the viral clips are all him saying logical, reasonable things with a calm tone and people screeching about diversity and equity and whole shit.
02:44:52.000He's being logical and reasonable and they're just lobbying a bunch of non-sequiturs that don't mean anything.
02:45:00.000The real trap in this country is the two-party system.
02:45:05.000They do believe they're on the right side and they do believe the other side is the wrong side.
02:45:09.000If there was five, six legitimate parties with varying positions on things and much more centrist parties that were legitimate, that people knew that if they voted for, these people could get in and enact legitimate change, we'd be a lot better off.
02:45:22.000But boy, they put a lockdown on that shit right after Ross Perot came along.
02:45:27.000Ross Perot fucked everything up in that election.
02:48:10.000I mean, that's why I actually posted on X. I think maybe we should pay politicians more, frankly, because it reduces the forcing function for graft.
02:48:27.000I think maybe we should either pay politicians nothing or...
02:48:33.000It's like somewhat maybe counterintuitively, if politicians got paid a lot more, then they wouldn't feel like that there's so much of a forcing function for them to accept corrupt money.
02:48:49.000Yeah, but the problem is if you paid them a lot more, they're still not going to make as much money as they would insider trading.
02:49:33.000If you're a part of a group of people that's passing a bill, and you know this bill's going to get passed, you know the votes are there, and you know it's going to affect this industry and this particular manufacturer, and you can buy stock.
02:50:06.000I mean, this is really going to get me assassinated.
02:50:11.000I'm not lengthening my lifespan by explaining this stuff, to say the least.
02:50:19.000I mean, I was supposed to go back to D.C. How am I going to survive?
02:50:23.000This focus is going to kill me for sure.
02:50:29.000In fact, I do think it's like I actually have to be careful that I don't push too hard on the corruption stuff because it's going to get me killed.
02:50:46.000I was actually thinking about that on the plane flight over here.
02:50:57.000If I push too hard on the corruption stuff, people get desperate is the issue.
02:51:56.000You know where they have the stone on the ice?
02:51:58.000And then they throw the stone, and then there's someone that's brushing the ice, but you can't touch the stone.
02:52:05.000All you can do is just change the path of the stone a little bit, but you keep brushing the ice, and you can steer that stone right into the bullseye.
02:52:15.000That's what I think happened in Butler.
02:52:18.000That's what I think happened with that assassin.
02:52:21.000If you can find the trail of breadcrumbs, it's going to be like curling.
02:52:36.000If you're brushing the ice, eventually it's going to hit the bullseye.
02:52:38.000If you're in a position of authority or some big-time government person, you're talking to this person, all of a sudden this person's a valuable asset.
02:55:44.000It wasn't like they had like a, I disagree with him politically and that's why he needs to die.
02:55:49.000This is pre, before I was, before I got sort of smeared as being, you know, some sort of like Nazi or something like that.
02:55:59.000So before the propaganda wave, the severe propaganda wave, the probability that any given homicidal maniac It's going to try to kill you as proportionate to how many times they hear your name.
03:02:16.000The next step, then, is to remove this immunity that these vaccine manufacturers have.
03:02:23.000And if they are liable for side effects and they are liable for the lies that they tell when they do these studies and they hide negative data, that'll change a lot.
03:03:44.000Because physicians are human beings, and maybe they don't have a deep understanding of the connection between, oh, you have this deficiency, and this is high, and your cortisol is here.
03:04:17.000And, I mean, one case, like, you know, I went to this doctor who was, like, highly recommended, you know, doctor to the stars, which is, like, maybe not a good sign.
03:04:46.000And then he gives me, it says, like, you have to take these, like, B12 supplements, and he's going to give me a starter pack.
03:04:52.000You know, then it's going to be like $1,000 a month for these special B12. $1,000 a month for B12? Yeah, that's a ridiculous amount of money, yeah.
03:05:06.000Yeah, it was like a whole bunch, B12 and a whole bunch of other vitamins.
03:05:10.000So then I get home and I'm like, well, I'm paging through my blood work and it says, I have, according to the blood results, I have excess B12. So I'm like, wait a second.
03:05:22.000And he's giving me a box of pills that have like 20,000% of a recommended daily dose.
03:05:32.000And I'm like, I said, look, I took a photograph of the blood work that says I have excess, I'm like above the range, above the recommended range of B12. And then I'm like, and I took a picture of things that says, of the pills that say 20,000%.
03:05:46.000It's like, can you help me reconcile these two things?
03:05:50.000Because it says I've got too much, a little too much B12. And you just gave me pills that have 20,000% more.
03:07:52.000Particularly with the ownership of X, but also with what's happening with Doge and just enlightening all these people and shining light on all the vampires.
03:08:02.000Well, hopefully people realize I'm not a Nazi.