The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2286 - Antonio Brown

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00:00:12.000 What's going on, man?

00:00:13.000 Pleasure to meet you.

00:00:14.000 How you doing, man?

00:00:14.000 Good to see you, baby.

00:00:15.000 Papa, look at that ring.

00:00:17.000 Yeah.

00:00:17.000 Holy shit.

00:00:18.000 Pleasure to meet you.

00:00:19.000 The most fun follow on Twitter by far.

00:00:23.000 Excuse me, X. Thank you.

00:00:24.000 Whatever they want to call it.

00:00:25.000 You're the most fun.

00:00:26.000 Thank you, man.

00:00:27.000 You made my job easy, you know.

00:00:29.000 All the entertainment you give me.

00:00:31.000 How did you decide to start doing this?

00:00:35.000 First of all, were you always this funny?

00:00:37.000 I would like to think so.

00:00:41.000 But your social media presence, I think Tony Hinchcliffe told me about you.

00:00:46.000 He's like, dude, you have to follow Antonio Brown.

00:00:50.000 He's the most must-follow on the internet.

00:00:53.000 I'm like, really?

00:00:54.000 And then I go to your page, and I'm fucking dying laughing.

00:00:57.000 We're sharing it around the green room with the comedy star.

00:01:00.000 I'm like, ah!

00:01:01.000 And then when I won crack of the day, I was like, yes!

00:01:04.000 Yes!

00:01:05.000 At a year.

00:01:06.000 Cracker of the Year, that's right.

00:01:07.000 Yeah.

00:01:08.000 I try to use X as a good platform to bring laughter, bringing humor back and comedy, making people feel good.

00:01:15.000 Well, you can get wild.

00:01:16.000 Yeah, I get a little wild sometimes.

00:01:17.000 You can get wild on X. Yeah, you can get a little wild on X, but I try to...

00:01:21.000 Twitter, they would have got rid of you a long time ago.

00:01:24.000 Yeah, you would have been cancelled.

00:01:25.000 Probably would have got rid of me too, if Elon didn't buy Twitter.

00:01:27.000 Yeah, we thanks Elon Musk for giving us that platform to be able to be expressive.

00:01:32.000 You know, to bring in comedy back, bring in entertainment.

00:01:35.000 Yeah.

00:01:35.000 Just ridiculous shit.

00:01:36.000 Have some fun again.

00:01:37.000 Have some fun again, yeah.

00:01:38.000 What happened?

00:01:40.000 Everybody tightened up for like five years.

00:01:42.000 It was really tight.

00:01:43.000 Yeah.

00:01:44.000 So how did you come up with hashtag CTESPN? Because that's my favorite.

00:01:51.000 I feel like when I stopped playing football and I walked off the field, people was like, this guy's crazy.

00:01:56.000 Like, he's retarded. 1.00

00:01:58.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:01:59.000 He's illiterate.

00:02:00.000 So, you know, I was like, you know what?

00:02:03.000 Maybe I could, you know, rebrand CTS being, you know, giving people perspective of different challenges people face and great individuals, how they overcome adversity.

00:02:14.000 And just kind of share and tune perspective of, you know, how people was getting through trauma.

00:02:20.000 No matter if you're a football player, I mean, what is it like for you?

00:02:23.000 You started damn UFC. Yeah.

00:02:27.000 UFC, like.

00:02:28.000 The reality of head trauma is something that we're, like, as a society, we're just embracing over the last 10, 20 years.

00:02:37.000 Yeah.

00:02:37.000 It wasn't for that concussion movie.

00:02:39.000 I think that opened up a lot of people's eyes.

00:02:41.000 That Will Smith movie?

00:02:42.000 Yes.

00:02:42.000 And the story, that doctor, of him finding how many people have significant brain trauma from football.

00:02:50.000 Yes.

00:02:50.000 So for me, I try to use it because this is a serious standpoint.

00:02:54.000 A lot of ex-players and players have actually has been diagnosed and passed away from CT. So for me, on a serious point of...

00:03:05.000 Bringing record awareness and bringing, you know, a reality standpoint of what athletes and people fighting or anyone in their daily lives facing from head trauma of just people writing them off, you know, and encouraging therapy, encouraging how do you get through tough situation and then making it funny.

00:03:25.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:03:26.000 Because I feel like nowadays if you do something crazy, people are like...

00:03:29.000 Oh yeah, that guy's crazy.

00:03:31.000 So I was like, let's just show why they're crazy on CTSPN. Show the cause of the craziness.

00:03:38.000 You know what I mean?

00:03:39.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a real cause to the craziness.

00:03:42.000 And we're ignoring it as a society because we love football, we love MMA, we love boxing.

00:03:51.000 Overlook it with the entertainment.

00:03:53.000 Keep moving.

00:03:54.000 Keep hitting.

00:03:55.000 I'm friends with a lot of dudes, so I get to see what they're like after fights.

00:04:01.000 Everybody watches the fight, the fight's amazing, and then you run into them after fights and have a conversation with them like, oh man.

00:04:07.000 Their whole head's swollen, can't move their hands, can't walk, calves are blown out, knees fucked up, ice here, this there. 0.90

00:04:16.000 It's a challenge.

00:04:18.000 It's a challenge, man.

00:04:19.000 It's a real challenge.

00:04:21.000 And when you started playing football, nobody even thought about it.

00:04:24.000 Yeah, because you just, you know, you never think about the repercussions.

00:04:27.000 You just think, I'll make a better life.

00:04:29.000 Well, back then, nobody even really knew that that was going to happen to football players.

00:04:34.000 It was kind of a thing that they thought about with boxers.

00:04:37.000 Rarely people talked about football players who aren't doing so good.

00:04:40.000 Yeah, so I feel like CTSP was brought back to recognize the awareness of...

00:04:45.000 High-level people are experiencing trauma and not being able to overcome that trauma because, you know, life's changing on you in a second.

00:04:52.000 You're playing football, you know it's going to come to an end.

00:04:55.000 What do you do next?

00:04:56.000 Yeah.

00:04:57.000 That's the hardest thing, right?

00:04:59.000 For pro athletes, you go from being a kid to all of a sudden you are making millions of dollars and you're young and you're wild and you're not thinking it's going to go away and then all your friends are buying jewelry and all your friends are buying Mercedes-Benz and Bentleys and all this shit and you're like, fuck.

00:05:17.000 And I think the number was something like 85% of NFL players go bankrupt within X amount of years after retirement.

00:05:26.000 Exactly, because the lifestyle, you know, and making so much money and being able to transition in regards of having a new career and not making that much money all at once like you used to.

00:05:36.000 Yeah.

00:05:37.000 And I think sometimes bankroll could be used to protect assets in regards of people coming after you, too.

00:05:42.000 Right.

00:05:43.000 You're a big target when you're in position.

00:05:45.000 Of course.

00:05:46.000 Yeah, but that is another problem with getting wealthy is that you become vulnerable to scoundrels.

00:05:51.000 Yeah, scavengers.

00:05:52.000 And dirty hoes. 1.00

00:05:53.000 Yeah, dirty hoes. 1.00

00:05:54.000 Dirty money-grabbing, like calculated hoes. 1.00

00:05:59.000 Yeah.

00:06:00.000 You know, ones that, it's not just like, well, the relationship didn't work out, the lawyer told you you can get some money from him, maybe you should go for it.

00:06:07.000 Yeah, fuck him.

00:06:08.000 No, it's like from the jump, they're calculated.

00:06:11.000 These ladies these days, they gonna have a nigga baby? 1.00

00:06:14.000 Because they're homeless.

00:06:16.000 Mm-hmm.

00:06:16.000 Yeah.

00:06:17.000 Yeah, you got to hit them in back to the streets where you belong, bitch. 1.00

00:06:22.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:06:24.000 Did you ever have situations where you thought girls were trying to get over on you?

00:06:28.000 I just feel like nowadays, girls just want the BBD, the biggest and better deal. 1.00

00:06:36.000 Right.

00:06:37.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:06:38.000 That's built into human nature.

00:06:40.000 Yeah, human nature is like, what's the next best thing?

00:06:43.000 Yeah.

00:06:44.000 It's called hypergamy. 0.87

00:06:46.000 It's like a natural state that women... 1.00

00:06:48.000 Stay in, right?

00:06:49.000 Well, they look for...

00:06:50.000 Like, if you're doing okay, but then all of a sudden she starts working for a billionaire and he gets divorced and he's real friendly to her, next thing you know, she starts picturing that closet.

00:07:00.000 Seeing the op, right?

00:07:01.000 She starts picturing that closet, seeing all those shoes and purses and all that jewelry.

00:07:07.000 She starts licking chops going to the movie theater. 0.98

00:07:09.000 He's actually nicer to me than my boyfriend.

00:07:12.000 They start justifying it, and next thing you know, she's going.

00:07:16.000 She's going to the movie theater.

00:07:18.000 It's hypergamy, yeah. 0.98

00:07:19.000 It's a natural state that some women, I mean, obviously there's great women out there with character and morals, and they don't do that, but it's a natural thing that women do. 1.00

00:07:28.000 They try to find a better suitor.

00:07:31.000 Bigger and better deal.

00:07:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:35.000 When you talk about CTE, when did you first start noticing, The effects of football.

00:07:45.000 I feel like to me, I always knew the game was going to come to an end.

00:07:49.000 And I feel like to me, I always played the game smart as a receiver.

00:07:52.000 Not putting myself in bad positions, getting hit.

00:07:55.000 But I did have a chance to, you know, rest in peace to Marius Thomas, one of the ex-receivers who came in the NFL around the time I came in.

00:08:03.000 I had a chance to see him experience, you know what I'm saying, some of that CT trauma.

00:08:09.000 How did he pass?

00:08:11.000 From CT. Yeah?

00:08:12.000 Yeah.

00:08:13.000 He passed from CTE? Yeah, when they study his brain, yeah, because I don't want to speak about the problems that he really had, but, you know, being a close friend to him, you know, we've seen some of the experience that he was going through.

00:08:25.000 And playing for Temple my last year when we won the Super Bowl, I think it had a player, Vincent Jackson, rest in peace, also pass from CTE. So for me, you know, it's a real thing.

00:08:37.000 It's a real thing.

00:08:37.000 And not only just from the hits you take, but like you said, aftermath of your career or, you know, having a moment in your career where some guys can't get over it or, you know, you done seen fighters have a fight or it may not go the way that they wanted to go and it could possibly affect the outcome of how they look at it.

00:08:55.000 And I feel like we all have traumas in our lives from all, no matter if you play sports or not.

00:09:01.000 So it's just raising awareness of getting mental therapy.

00:09:05.000 Being able to, you know, work on yourself so you can have a better life.

00:09:08.000 That's an important point you brought up, like the psychology of an athlete.

00:09:12.000 You have to learn how to, like, put losses behind you and failures behind you and regain your confidence and then excel and move forward, right?

00:09:20.000 You just got to not let one moment overtake the overall moments of your career.

00:09:26.000 Right.

00:09:27.000 Some moments are big moments, and, you know, if you get cut, little things that happen in your career, just take it with a grain of salt and be able to, You talk pretty openly about CTE, but when did you start feeling the effects of that?

00:09:45.000 I feel like I always was in tune and aware of my situation and where I'm at in life.

00:09:53.000 I've been pretty blessed in my regards of being a football player.

00:09:58.000 Come from Central Michigan as a walk on to Central Michigan, leave three years, go to the Steelers being the second receiver pick in that year.

00:10:06.000 And then, you know, I always had a high belief in myself and never was deteriorated about the position or where I had to start from or where I was going.

00:10:14.000 So for me, I always had the intuitive trust and the belief in myself regarding any situation I've been in because, you know, I came from Liberty City from nothing.

00:10:23.000 So to me, everything's a blessing.

00:10:28.000 Any position I ever was in in life deteriorated my perspective and my outlook or how I looked at.

00:10:34.000 Did you feel the way your brain work changed at all though?

00:10:39.000 No, I feel like the older you get playing sport, you realize, deteriorate, you know what I'm saying, what the game entails on your body.

00:10:46.000 I feel like in my 20s, I was just ripping through, you know, dominating the game.

00:10:51.000 Right, right.

00:10:51.000 Then you get 30. You know what I'm saying?

00:10:53.000 Obviously, it's a business.

00:10:55.000 They're looking for younger players to excel at the game.

00:10:57.000 And then when you leave one of the best teams and put yourself in a position, you know, to do what's important for you other than important for the NFL. So, you know, what's going to come with that?

00:11:08.000 So, to me, I always made a calculated decision, you know what I mean, to put myself in the best position, i.e., like playing with Tom Brady, you know, going to the Pacers or leaving the Steelers.

00:11:19.000 You know, I always try to just...

00:11:21.000 Knew I wasn't going to play for a long time.

00:11:23.000 Just maximized the moment in the meantime playing so when I'm done playing I can live a healthy life.

00:11:28.000 So you played smart.

00:11:30.000 Gotta play smart.

00:11:32.000 And as a receiver, man, they're coming for you.

00:11:34.000 Yeah, you gotta play smart.

00:11:35.000 That's target numero uno.

00:11:37.000 Yeah.

00:11:39.000 Do you encounter a lot of young guys?

00:11:43.000 I'm sure you run into, and you definitely did while you're playing, young guys are coming in, and you feel compelled to let them know, like, hey, you got a short amount of time here.

00:11:53.000 The longest anybody that ever lasts is like Brady.

00:11:57.000 What's he now?

00:11:58.000 He's thinking about doing it again.

00:12:00.000 Is he 43?

00:12:01.000 44, probably, yeah.

00:12:02.000 Quarterback's a little different, right?

00:12:04.000 Yeah.

00:12:04.000 A lot different, right, than a receiver.

00:12:06.000 A lot different than a receiver, yeah.

00:12:07.000 And they have longer careers.

00:12:09.000 But, you know, it's obviously, for most people, you start hitting your 30s.

00:12:14.000 That's the same thing with fighters as well.

00:12:15.000 When they pass 35, that's the cutoff.

00:12:18.000 35, you're always looking for decline.

00:12:20.000 And some of them hang in there strong, like Alex Pereira.

00:12:23.000 He's 37. He's hanging in there strong, killing everybody.

00:12:27.000 For most guys, 35, 36, that's the drop-off, 37. Do you feel, like, compelled to talk to the young guys?

00:12:34.000 Absolutely, because it's a short window of opportunity.

00:12:37.000 Yeah.

00:12:38.000 And you've got to know, like, what are you set out to do?

00:12:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:41.000 What are you came to do?

00:12:42.000 You've got to have those intangibles.

00:12:44.000 And just, you know, it's a long game.

00:12:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:47.000 Life is a long game.

00:12:48.000 Life is a long game.

00:12:49.000 Yeah, football's a chapter.

00:12:51.000 Life's a long game.

00:12:52.000 And it could be the most fun chapter of your whole life.

00:12:56.000 But it's not real life.

00:12:57.000 Right.

00:12:57.000 Of all, it's just what you do is really not who you is, but I feel like people will kind of get to know you from what you do based off, you know what I mean?

00:13:05.000 Yeah, of course.

00:13:06.000 Yeah.

00:13:06.000 The other thing is that, like, some guys, they have a real problem when they stop playing because they don't know who they are anymore.

00:13:12.000 They used to be a football player, and now all of a sudden they're just a regular person who was a football player.

00:13:18.000 And that's some part of the trauma as well.

00:13:20.000 You know, some guys, it's not really in tune with knowing themselves in regard to...

00:13:26.000 To me, I always knew football wasn't going to come to an end.

00:13:29.000 We don't have unlimited health.

00:13:30.000 And I go back to the trauma, which is understand who you are and making yourself happy, you know?

00:13:38.000 Yeah.

00:13:38.000 Yeah, it's interesting to see that some people can navigate it and they figure out how to do it and they get through life and then they move on to other things and they start doing commentary on ESPN or what have you and they're doing great.

00:13:50.000 And then most people, that's not the case.

00:13:53.000 Yeah.

00:13:54.000 That's why I say I recommend people who get therapy and, you know, into your career.

00:13:58.000 Have good people in your corner that, you know, got your back that could still help you propel in life.

00:14:03.000 Did you get therapy when you were done?

00:14:05.000 Yeah.

00:14:06.000 For sure you gotta get therapy.

00:14:08.000 Yeah?

00:14:08.000 Yeah.

00:14:08.000 What did you specifically go to talk to them about?

00:14:12.000 Just how you feel.

00:14:13.000 You know, mental clarity.

00:14:15.000 You know, emotional feelings.

00:14:17.000 You know, I feel like...

00:14:18.000 Waking up and being a football player when you did it every day and you wake up with so much energy ready to put it out.

00:14:24.000 Right.

00:14:24.000 Learning how to channel it, you know, learning how to deal with some relationships that maybe changed now that you're not in a position and how to deal with that or, you know, how to deal with people leveraging you, you know what I mean, for what you got now.

00:14:38.000 Yeah.

00:14:39.000 It's a lot of different things that just provide mental clarity and just...

00:14:43.000 Because life's not about just being right, just figuring out ways to just be more happy.

00:14:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:49.000 Did you have a plan when you stopped?

00:14:51.000 Did you know what you were going to do?

00:14:52.000 I didn't know what I was going to do, but it kind of just happened.

00:14:56.000 I was making music with the distribution label, with video.

00:15:00.000 So as soon as I walked out the field, they released the music.

00:15:04.000 I ended up linking with Kanye West right after.

00:15:09.000 After that, I was doing Rolling Louds.

00:15:12.000 After that, you know what I'm saying?

00:15:13.000 So, for me, I was grateful, you know, as soon as I walked off the field, music song dropped.

00:15:18.000 How did you link up with Kanye?

00:15:20.000 Man, he was looking for me right when I walked off the field.

00:15:23.000 Really?

00:15:23.000 Yeah, they was calling me, Justin LaBoy, like, calling me in New York, like, yo, Kanye wanna meet you.

00:15:29.000 I ended up flying to L.A. to meet Rich with Fashion Nova, and we met right in Craigs, randomly in Craigs, but he was looking for me in L.A., and after that...

00:15:40.000 And I'm hanging with him, making his album, Donda 2. Wow.

00:15:45.000 Just getting opportunities.

00:15:46.000 That's crazy.

00:15:47.000 I've been blessed to be able to have that happen for me.

00:15:50.000 What is it like working with Kanye?

00:15:52.000 Because I've got to imagine that motherfucker is terrific.

00:15:53.000 A lot of energy, genius, meetings at 8 o'clock, all the music.

00:15:58.000 8 a.m.

00:15:59.000 or 8 p.m.?

00:15:59.000 8 a.m.

00:16:00.000 Really?

00:16:00.000 Every day, yeah.

00:16:01.000 Really?

00:16:02.000 All the engineers there, everyone on the team.

00:16:05.000 That's unusual.

00:16:06.000 Rappers at 8 a.m.?

00:16:08.000 Nah, Kanye is really a...

00:16:10.000 Been this guy who put in a lot of work.

00:16:12.000 I know a lot of people see his rants and him going off, but he's really passionate about his work.

00:16:17.000 He's a genius.

00:16:18.000 He's just scattered.

00:16:19.000 He's all over the place.

00:16:20.000 And sometimes he goes a little off the reservation.

00:16:24.000 I feel like he thinks in a lot of forms.

00:16:25.000 Yes.

00:16:26.000 So many areas he likes to think.

00:16:28.000 You don't make music like that consistently unless you got a very different mind.

00:16:33.000 That dude has a very different mind.

00:16:35.000 All of his shit.

00:16:36.000 He doesn't have one bad album.

00:16:38.000 His new album's not getting enough love.

00:16:40.000 Yeah, because I feel like people want to know where's he at.

00:16:43.000 Where's he at?

00:16:44.000 He's killing it still.

00:16:45.000 This music is killing it.

00:16:47.000 This new shit is killing it.

00:16:49.000 I wish he didn't sell swastika t-shirts on his website, but...

00:16:53.000 He does that to fuck with people.

00:16:55.000 He does that to fuck with people.

00:16:58.000 That's part of the fun of being kind here.

00:17:00.000 That's part of the marketing, yeah.

00:17:01.000 Yeah, it's part of the fun of being Kanye.

00:17:03.000 He's getting people to talk about him.

00:17:04.000 He puts an ad on the Super Bowl, and you go to the website, and he's selling swastika t-shirts.

00:17:08.000 It's like, what the fuck?

00:17:09.000 The hell is this?

00:17:12.000 It's so crazy, but the music is undeniable.

00:17:16.000 Over and over and over again, it's undeniable.

00:17:18.000 Every album.

00:17:19.000 He doesn't have one dud.

00:17:20.000 They're all bangers.

00:17:22.000 They're all bangers.

00:17:24.000 And the new one, after all the shit he's been through, the new one is a banger. 0.99

00:17:27.000 We play that shit in the green room all the time.

00:17:29.000 It's a banger.

00:17:30.000 Yeah, he's all gas.

00:17:32.000 All gas, no brakes.

00:17:33.000 But 8 a.m.

00:17:34.000 meetings for rappers is very unusual.

00:17:37.000 I mean, he's more than a rapper.

00:17:39.000 I think he's just a creative genius.

00:17:40.000 He makes beats.

00:17:41.000 He's in fashion shoes.

00:17:43.000 Of course, yeah.

00:17:44.000 Just creative, lucrative, man.

00:17:45.000 I feel like he's really passionate about them.

00:17:47.000 Yeah, the rap is just one extension of his creativity.

00:17:51.000 Yeah, he can do whatever the fuck he wants.

00:17:54.000 I just wish he would stop selling swastika t-shirts.

00:17:56.000 Yeah, he gotta calm it down.

00:17:57.000 I told him God is love.

00:18:01.000 Yeah, I told him God is love, man.

00:18:04.000 He's a really in tune spirit with God, so I told him that God is love, be love.

00:18:09.000 Well, you know what I think?

00:18:10.000 I think Kanye feels attacked.

00:18:12.000 And when he feels attacked, he fires back.

00:18:15.000 And then you develop this antagonistic relationship with the media, with some of your fans, with all the people that are upset at you.

00:18:27.000 He feels cornered and attacked and not appreciated.

00:18:31.000 And then he fires at people and starts saying wild shit and then puts masks on.

00:18:39.000 He's a brilliant fucking guy.

00:18:41.000 Yeah, he's amazing.

00:18:42.000 When he came to do the podcast, unfortunately, at the time, Jamie caught COVID. Like, the early, early days.

00:18:48.000 And Jamie couldn't be here, so we wound up doing it in my studio.

00:18:51.000 But what he wanted to do was build a studio that looked like a womb.

00:18:56.000 Nah, he loves, he loves like...

00:18:58.000 Settings and how stuff looks, shapes, designs.

00:19:02.000 He probably sent 100 images every day.

00:19:04.000 Just different designs.

00:19:06.000 Yeah, he sent me sketches and shit of what he's working on.

00:19:08.000 You should see his workout.

00:19:09.000 He draws on a whole comic book.

00:19:13.000 A comic book of his workouts?

00:19:14.000 Yeah, but his workout.

00:19:15.000 It's retarded. 1.00

00:19:16.000 He's just so...

00:19:17.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:19:20.000 That's funny.

00:19:20.000 Yeah.

00:19:21.000 I mean, that's how you become a guy that's that successful in so many different areas.

00:19:25.000 You have to be driven.

00:19:27.000 You got to be driven, man.

00:19:28.000 You got to get on that bike and exercise that cardio.

00:19:32.000 Right.

00:19:32.000 You got that agility.

00:19:33.000 You got that agility just up and on it.

00:19:35.000 Yeah.

00:19:36.000 I feel like that kind of brain, though, is like a Ferrari engine.

00:19:41.000 You got to know how to handle that.

00:19:43.000 You've got to know how to handle that thing or you're going to go into the woods.

00:19:46.000 You're going to spin off the road and hit a fucking tree.

00:19:49.000 And that's the problem with a guy like Kanye.

00:19:52.000 It's just like his brain has more horsepower than the average brain.

00:19:57.000 On a road where everybody else is going 35 miles an hour, and he's like, get the fuck out of my way!

00:20:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:04.000 You know?

00:20:05.000 Because he's got that Ferrari engine, but that engine, you will spin out.

00:20:09.000 The tires won't hold.

00:20:11.000 You will take a corner too fast.

00:20:13.000 Yeah, you'll go sideways.

00:20:14.000 Yeah, this is the crash-out bucket right here.

00:20:16.000 What's with the helmet?

00:20:18.000 Why'd you choose the helmet?

00:20:20.000 I feel like this is one of the lucrative helmets that they wear when they go to war.

00:20:24.000 Lucrative?

00:20:25.000 Yeah, lucrative.

00:20:26.000 You know, this is the crash out buckets because I feel like when you wear this helmet, you were already crashed out.

00:20:32.000 It's like you committed to the crash out.

00:20:34.000 Right, right, right.

00:20:35.000 You're all in.

00:20:36.000 All in.

00:20:36.000 So I feel like we have war right now with the Democrats.

00:20:39.000 I know.

00:20:40.000 Isn't that crazy to say?

00:20:47.000 I know.

00:20:48.000 It's crazy to say, but I know exactly what you're saying.

00:20:50.000 Exactly.

00:20:51.000 I just can't believe people say it and it's true. 1.00

00:20:54.000 It's wild life right now.

00:20:55.000 The Democrats are now the Republicans.

00:20:58.000 They're the ones trying to control speech. 0.98

00:21:00.000 They didn't even clap for the little kid.

00:21:02.000 That was some bullshit.

00:21:04.000 They didn't clap for the little kid.

00:21:05.000 They didn't clap for the lady who got fucked up by that volleyball player that was a dude. 0.99

00:21:09.000 Yeah, they didn't clap for Lake and Riley who got murdered by the illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:21:13.000 Yeah, it was crazy.

00:21:14.000 It's just we're so divided.

00:21:16.000 You can't clap for a little kid who survived cancer.

00:21:19.000 What the fuck is wrong with you?

00:21:20.000 Yeah, where your heart at?

00:21:21.000 He's on their side, so you can't clap for this little kid?

00:21:24.000 Like, you're upset.

00:21:25.000 This little kid is watching you not clap at him.

00:21:27.000 That's crazy.

00:21:29.000 That's a little child.

00:21:29.000 Yeah, it's hurting his heart.

00:21:30.000 A child with cancer, and you can't put your shit aside to give that kid some love?

00:21:37.000 That's crazy.

00:21:39.000 We have to stop the division in this country. 0.82

00:21:43.000 I feel like people are digging in their trenches.

00:21:45.000 They're digging in deeper and deeper.

00:21:47.000 And really, we should be encouraging the opposite.

00:21:50.000 Most of what people are arguing about...

00:21:53.000 All day long in politics is not affecting your life.

00:21:56.000 It's bullshit.

00:21:57.000 It's all bullshit.

00:21:58.000 It's bullshit.

00:21:59.000 And you can get caught up in it and it can become your whole life and you will waste your life thinking about that stuff instead of thinking about stuff that you actually have control over.

00:22:08.000 Exactly.

00:22:09.000 Your family, your friends.

00:22:11.000 Stuff that's important.

00:22:11.000 Your life.

00:22:12.000 Yeah.

00:22:12.000 Stuff that's actually important, which is what you should be thinking about most of the time.

00:22:16.000 Yachty.

00:22:17.000 But some people, they think about that and then think, yeah, what are these motherfuckers doing behind the scenes?

00:22:21.000 They're stealing my fucking taxes, doing this, and bringing in the illegals, and what are they doing with the trans kids? 1.00

00:22:28.000 It's nonstop.

00:22:29.000 Yeah, it's nonstop, man.

00:22:30.000 That's why we got to bring comedy and love back, and then Joy Boo laughs on X. Were you on Twitter before Elon bought it?

00:22:39.000 Yeah, I was on there before.

00:22:40.000 Did you get in trouble at all?

00:22:42.000 Or would you take it on the DL back then, like a little lighter?

00:22:45.000 No, obviously back then I was representing the NFL and some stuff I can't really talk on or speak on when you represent a T. Right, if you were representing the NFL right now...

00:22:54.000 Yeah, man, you gotta get the fuck out of it.

00:22:56.000 Yeah, some of the shit you write is wild.

00:22:59.000 Yeah.

00:23:00.000 Yeah, you get wild.

00:23:01.000 But it's funny!

00:23:02.000 Yeah.

00:23:03.000 That's, like, that's what I go to Twitter for.

00:23:05.000 I don't want to be mad.

00:23:06.000 It's comedy for laughs.

00:23:06.000 Yeah.

00:23:07.000 We don't want to stress people.

00:23:08.000 I want people to come to my X page and fucking... 1.00

00:23:11.000 Ball out your eyes.

00:23:12.000 Yeah, so when you did the awards, who put that together?

00:23:17.000 Me and my guy, Jacob.

00:23:19.000 We put it together.

00:23:20.000 Genius.

00:23:20.000 Yeah.

00:23:21.000 Genius.

00:23:21.000 And everybody loved it.

00:23:23.000 It was huge.

00:23:23.000 Yeah.

00:23:24.000 I think it was bigger than the awards show with the Oscars.

00:23:26.000 I feel like we had a lot of numbers.

00:23:28.000 You had a lot of numbers on X, man.

00:23:30.000 Like, a lot of people watched that.

00:23:31.000 What was the final numbers on that?

00:23:33.000 I think almost $200 million in engagement.

00:23:35.000 That is so crazy.

00:23:37.000 Right on the X, yeah.

00:23:38.000 That's so crazy.

00:23:38.000 But it's fun.

00:23:39.000 People are starving for fun.

00:23:42.000 They need excitement.

00:23:43.000 Yeah.

00:23:43.000 A little uncomfortable, but a little cool.

00:23:45.000 Because we make the uncomfortability cool.

00:23:48.000 Also, you're doing it all with a big smile.

00:23:50.000 It's happiness, man.

00:23:51.000 Yeah, you're having a good time.

00:23:52.000 Yeah, a good time.

00:23:53.000 Making people feel good.

00:23:54.000 Yeah.

00:23:54.000 That's what we need more of.

00:23:56.000 Are you going to do more award shows?

00:23:57.000 I need to.

00:23:58.000 We need to do more, especially if you're a part of it.

00:24:00.000 If you're going to come support it, of course.

00:24:02.000 I'll support.

00:24:03.000 I'll get a bunch of guys to come, too.

00:24:05.000 We need to do a real experience, like a real show awards, but we have it.

00:24:08.000 I feel like you could do it every quarter.

00:24:10.000 You can do it like once a quarter.

00:24:12.000 Every three months.

00:24:13.000 Why not?

00:24:13.000 Get some sponsors.

00:24:15.000 Let's go.

00:24:16.000 You know, because that's a legitimate show.

00:24:18.000 Fuck all these other award shows.

00:24:19.000 I didn't watch the Oscars.

00:24:21.000 There's so much politics.

00:24:22.000 It's not even fun.

00:24:23.000 I know.

00:24:23.000 They're talking about politics.

00:24:25.000 Ukraine and this and Gaza and Palestine.

00:24:29.000 You're making movies.

00:24:30.000 Just make your fucking movies.

00:24:31.000 Just go right to the theaters and keep it going.

00:24:33.000 This is what we did.

00:24:34.000 We worked real hard.

00:24:35.000 Thank you, everybody, for all your hard work.

00:24:38.000 Yay! 0.99

00:24:38.000 We won. 0.99

00:24:39.000 That's it!

00:24:39.000 That's it.

00:24:40.000 That's all I want to hear from you.

00:24:41.000 That's all I want to hear.

00:24:42.000 I'm not interested in someone who lies for a living, because that's what they do.

00:24:45.000 They pretend to be somebody else.

00:24:46.000 For a living, tell me how I should view the world.

00:24:49.000 I'd like to go to other people for that, please.

00:24:51.000 Thank you.

00:24:52.000 You're welcome.

00:24:53.000 Yeah, you fucking people are just actors.

00:24:57.000 Just because you're famous doesn't mean what you have to say is important.

00:25:00.000 Exactly.

00:25:01.000 Especially at a fucking award show.

00:25:03.000 Imagine taking your time and you're going to use that award show to denounce politics and proclaim your platform.

00:25:13.000 Just ruin shit.

00:25:14.000 Boring.

00:25:15.000 Super boring.

00:25:16.000 Boring.

00:25:17.000 Yours is fun.

00:25:18.000 You could have a giant audience.

00:25:20.000 You could have musical performers.

00:25:22.000 You could have a real show.

00:25:23.000 Yeah, man.

00:25:24.000 People look forward to it and feel happy about it.

00:25:26.000 Fuck yeah.

00:25:27.000 And make people feel good for doing great things, man.

00:25:29.000 Yes.

00:25:29.000 And it's also, like, the fun thing about you doing something like that, too, is it lets other people know, like, oh, I could cut loose, too.

00:25:37.000 Yeah, you could be a little open.

00:25:38.000 Yeah, maybe I could.

00:25:39.000 A little comedy fight.

00:25:40.000 Yeah, maybe someone will pay attention to me.

00:25:42.000 Yeah.

00:25:42.000 Maybe I can crack some good jokes and have some fun.

00:25:46.000 Some good humor to bring people together.

00:25:48.000 Yes.

00:25:48.000 Yeah.

00:25:49.000 Well, that's one cool thing that I am seeing from a lot of former athletes.

00:25:52.000 They're starting podcasts.

00:25:54.000 Yeah.

00:25:55.000 I like the podcast.

00:25:56.000 Yeah.

00:25:58.000 It's a good way for guys to just sit around and shoot the shit.

00:26:02.000 Yeah, be expressive.

00:26:03.000 Look at Pat McAfee.

00:26:04.000 He's fucking killing it.

00:26:05.000 Yeah, he's killing it.

00:26:05.000 Yeah, Pat, take it to a whole new level after the career.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, but that's like a great example of what's possible for a lot of former athletes.

00:26:12.000 Yeah.

00:26:13.000 Especially fun guys like you.

00:26:14.000 Yeah.

00:26:15.000 Have you thought about doing a podcast?

00:26:16.000 I would love to.

00:26:17.000 I started a little on CTSPN, but I think I need it.

00:26:22.000 I feel like I don't want to be the guy that's just talking about...

00:26:25.000 Yeah.

00:26:26.000 I feel like sometimes I get a little watered down when you just...

00:26:28.000 Right.

00:26:29.000 Talking too much.

00:26:30.000 I feel like as a player, I always was about action.

00:26:33.000 I love to talk and be funny and creative, but sometimes it depends on, you know, what's the seriousness and the purpose coming behind it or what's the meaning.

00:26:43.000 Oh, believe me, I know.

00:26:44.000 I talk too much.

00:26:45.000 I talk four or five days a week sometimes.

00:26:47.000 Your opinion is really good.

00:26:49.000 I like seeing you give your opinion.

00:26:51.000 You're always real.

00:26:52.000 You're a realist.

00:26:53.000 I try to keep it real.

00:26:54.000 Keep it official or tell the truth how they're feeling.

00:26:58.000 It's always amazing to be here with you.

00:27:01.000 Thank you.

00:27:03.000 I feel very fortunate that my job depends on me being real.

00:27:07.000 You don't have an option.

00:27:09.000 A lot of people can't really pay that price.

00:27:11.000 How do you come to a source with yourself where you can just...

00:27:14.000 Be 100% genuine about how you feel and who you is.

00:27:18.000 I kind of always have been that way.

00:27:20.000 I think that's my CTE. I got hit in the head a lot when I was young, man.

00:27:26.000 I got hit in the head a lot.

00:27:27.000 And I think all my years of sparring and fighting, I think, rattled something loose.

00:27:32.000 It rattled the give a fuck part loose.

00:27:35.000 Where it's like, I don't care as much.

00:27:39.000 If other people are mad at me, as some people do.

00:27:41.000 I don't care as much.

00:27:42.000 I mean, I don't like it.

00:27:44.000 I don't like it if people are upset at me, but it doesn't ruin my life like it does with some people.

00:27:49.000 I can just like, okay.

00:27:50.000 Also, I think I have...

00:27:53.000 Enough real-world perspective to know what's actually important in this life.

00:27:59.000 And it's not really necessarily other people's opinions, especially the type of opinions of people that get upset all the time about everything.

00:28:06.000 They're not valuable opinions.

00:28:08.000 So even if they're making you out to be the worst person that's ever lived, according to them, but they're idiots.

00:28:14.000 You have to be able to have perspective.

00:28:18.000 If you feel a certain way and you don't tell people, if you think a certain way, you don't tell people, you're doing a disservice to you.

00:28:26.000 You're doing a disservice to them.

00:28:30.000 Nobody's benefiting from that.

00:28:33.000 Nobody.

00:28:33.000 No one's benefiting from your true self.

00:28:37.000 So how do you handle criticism?

00:28:40.000 Handle over the achievement, right?

00:28:41.000 Just don't say nothing, right?

00:28:42.000 Just keep on going.

00:28:43.000 Just keep going.

00:28:44.000 Achieve more, right?

00:28:46.000 Yeah, this thing called life gonna keep on rolling.

00:28:50.000 Just ignore it.

00:28:52.000 I mean, I'm my worst critic, so if I have a bad show, if I do something I don't like or wish I didn't do, I am upset at myself more than other people are gonna be anyway.

00:29:02.000 Now you're a realist.

00:29:03.000 Yeah, so I'm not interested in the opinions of people that are easily upset by almost anything.

00:29:08.000 How do you feel about crypto, man?

00:29:10.000 You got Phantom Wallet?

00:29:11.000 How do you get your money in crypto?

00:29:13.000 Well, Jamie and I have been talking about starting our own bullshit coin.

00:29:16.000 That'd be dope. 0.98

00:29:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:18.000 Not bullshit coin?

00:29:20.000 I thought you were going to do a pull it up Jamie coin.

00:29:22.000 No, no, no.

00:29:23.000 What about the butt coin?

00:29:24.000 You heard of butt coin?

00:29:25.000 No, what's butt coin?

00:29:26.000 The Dodge New Dodge coin?

00:29:28.000 Hmm?

00:29:29.000 I wrote a show today at Dodge New Dodge coin.

00:29:32.000 I mean, it's a bunch of coins.

00:29:33.000 There's like a million coins, right?

00:29:35.000 Yeah, there's like a million coins out there.

00:29:35.000 How many coins are there?

00:29:37.000 Meme coins.

00:29:39.000 It's over?

00:29:39.000 Yeah.

00:29:40.000 What do you mean?

00:29:41.000 The meme coin?

00:29:42.000 It all fell apart.

00:29:43.000 When?

00:29:44.000 This week?

00:29:45.000 Yeah.

00:29:45.000 Jamie?

00:29:47.000 For real?

00:29:48.000 Everything fell apart.

00:29:49.000 Why did it fall apart?

00:29:50.000 Because of its nonsense.

00:29:52.000 I hope we didn't ruin it by talking about it.

00:29:55.000 I don't know.

00:29:56.000 I'm thinking about launching a meme coin.

00:29:59.000 I don't know.

00:30:00.000 I'm not making any accusations.

00:30:01.000 Portnoy kind of exposed it.

00:30:02.000 It's over.

00:30:04.000 Because Portnoy was the only one that was looking at it going...

00:30:06.000 Am I going to jail?

00:30:08.000 Is this legal?

00:30:09.000 Yeah, I was thinking about lodging a coin myself that's really legit, that you don't own, you don't sell it, you don't rip it.

00:30:17.000 That way if it tanked, they make their money.

00:30:19.000 I feel like you could go to focus.xyz at AB and check it out.

00:30:23.000 Is that yours?

00:30:24.000 Yeah.

00:30:24.000 Okay, so you promise not to pump and dump?

00:30:28.000 Yeah, no pump and dump.

00:30:29.000 It's an unruggable.

00:30:31.000 Like nobody could pump and dump it.

00:30:32.000 Oh, you can't pull the rug out?

00:30:33.000 Yeah, you can't pull the rug out.

00:30:34.000 So that way it just stays and grows.

00:30:37.000 Because that's why I feel like that's why people get in trouble with all these coins, just pump and dump.

00:30:41.000 People don't want to be scammed or fucked over or manipulated.

00:30:45.000 So I feel like you got to have, for me, to make one coin, I feel like we got to make one that won't sell a tank, an unguardable one that you could.

00:30:53.000 Focus on...

00:30:54.000 I think I'm gonna put it out now.

00:30:55.000 It's on Focus.xyz slash AB. There was this one coin that Hamzat Chemaev, the UFC fighter, released.

00:31:02.000 That was...

00:31:03.000 They were claiming that he did a pump and dump.

00:31:06.000 And there was like, you ripped off your fans.

00:31:08.000 I'm like, man, you can't rip off your fans, obviously.

00:31:11.000 But also...

00:31:12.000 I don't know if the people that are buying those coins are fans.

00:31:15.000 I think they're gamblers.

00:31:16.000 I think those people are just gamblers.

00:31:18.000 And they're just trying to figure out, okay, if I buy in now, and, you know, they probably got, like, their finger over the sell button, waiting for it to get to a certain number.

00:31:27.000 And cash out.

00:31:28.000 And cash out.

00:31:29.000 It's like the casino at that point.

00:31:31.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:31:31.000 But it's more rigged than the casino.

00:31:35.000 Because the casino, like, the person playing it.

00:31:39.000 Can't rig it, but this the person playing it is rigging it the person buying the coins can rig it like if you especially if you get a famous guy like Hamzat or Someone else to tweet about it and make it a big deal and then the price goes up and then you just Pick a peak peak number and when it hits that number like that's it Yeah, you can't fuck people over people.

00:32:01.000 No one's feeling good fuck what out there.

00:32:03.000 No decision, but also Who are these people, and why did they think they were gonna make money on bullshit coins?

00:32:09.000 Yeah, I don't get it.

00:32:11.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:32:12.000 Are we mad at the casino when someone blows all their money playing roulette?

00:32:17.000 No.

00:32:18.000 We're like, well, that's what you signed up for.

00:32:20.000 Like you could have won money like people win money in roulette or they don't but if you lose all your money in roulette, we're not mad at the casino.

00:32:27.000 No.

00:32:27.000 So why are we mad when someone loses their money in meme coins?

00:32:32.000 You know, it's like what the fuck did you think was gonna happen?

00:32:34.000 You took a gamble.

00:32:35.000 You're literally buying a coin that's like a little doggy face.

00:32:40.000 You took your whole life savings and you gambled on a doggy face coin?

00:32:47.000 That's what a fake money coin?

00:32:50.000 Explain that to me.

00:32:51.000 Dumbass of the day.

00:32:52.000 That's dumbass of the day.

00:32:53.000 Yeah, literally.

00:32:55.000 And again, I feel terrible for anybody who got tricked into doing that shit, but I think most of those people who are not getting tricked, they're like scamming.

00:33:03.000 They're hustling.

00:33:04.000 They're hustling.

00:33:04.000 They're trying to figure out when to buy, when to sell.

00:33:06.000 Figure a way to make it big.

00:33:07.000 Yeah.

00:33:07.000 But the weird thing is a guy like Portnoy can tweet about a coin, and then once he makes that post, the coin goes up, and then he sells, and he makes a million dollars.

00:33:17.000 He's like, is that okay?

00:33:19.000 Like, is that legal?

00:33:20.000 Well, it turns out it is legal.

00:33:21.000 That's totally legal to do.

00:33:23.000 But, like, shouldn't there be some fucking regulations?

00:33:26.000 Because you can't do that with a lot of things.

00:33:28.000 If you did that with the stock market, wouldn't you be in trouble if you did that with the stock market?

00:33:32.000 Like, if you tweeted about a stock, and then that stock went up, and then you sold right away.

00:33:37.000 Like, if you're like, I'm bullish on this stock, and then that stock goes up, and then you sell right away.

00:33:41.000 Is that a pump and dump?

00:33:42.000 It is, right?

00:33:43.000 Yeah.

00:33:44.000 It's not?

00:33:45.000 Is that totally legal?

00:33:47.000 It's legal.

00:33:48.000 Talk in the microphone, bro.

00:33:48.000 I have no idea why that wouldn't be legal, but that's not pumping.

00:33:52.000 But you're promoting it, right?

00:33:54.000 That's not pumping.

00:33:55.000 Pumping, literally, is you're putting money up.

00:33:58.000 Okay, so you're putting money to elevate the price.

00:34:01.000 It has to be seen.

00:34:01.000 There has to be something to look at.

00:34:04.000 So that's the question.

00:34:06.000 So it all starts out with some real money.

00:34:08.000 Yeah, you gotta put something in on it.

00:34:10.000 You can't just start off.

00:34:11.000 You gotta have your money.

00:34:12.000 How much money?

00:34:13.000 How much ever you can put.

00:34:15.000 How much does a coin, like...

00:34:17.000 It literally depends.

00:34:18.000 It's over.

00:34:19.000 I'm telling you, this is over.

00:34:20.000 It's not worth learning it now, but...

00:34:21.000 Jamie's funny.

00:34:22.000 It's over.

00:34:23.000 You know what that means?

00:34:23.000 That means Jamie's stockpiling coins.

00:34:25.000 He's trying to bring down the price.

00:34:27.000 Don't you feel it?

00:34:28.000 He's trying to get the ups.

00:34:30.000 He's trying to bring down the price.

00:34:32.000 That's not how this game works.

00:34:34.000 It's literally the opposite of how it would work if that's what I was trying to do.

00:34:37.000 You don't have to lie to us.

00:34:38.000 We love you.

00:34:39.000 I've seen you get high with Elon Musk on here.

00:34:41.000 He hit the joint, and it's like...

00:34:42.000 Allegedly.

00:34:44.000 Allegedly.

00:34:45.000 Allegedly, yeah.

00:34:46.000 I like that.

00:34:47.000 He got in trouble for that.

00:34:48.000 I know.

00:34:48.000 Because he has top secret clearance.

00:34:50.000 Yeah, I figured he was.

00:34:51.000 The thing about that, we can't show that on YouTube anymore.

00:34:54.000 YouTube is not liking the smoke right now.

00:34:56.000 YouTube is taking some precautions.

00:35:00.000 Protecting people from themselves.

00:35:01.000 Make sure Bay Smokes, man. 0.58

00:35:01.000 50 sakes. 0.58

00:35:02.000 So this stuff that you have is legal in 50 states?

00:35:04.000 Yes, Bay Smokes.

00:35:05.000 I don't even want to ask how.

00:35:06.000 I just trust you.

00:35:07.000 Bay Smokes.

00:35:08.000 How's it legal in 50 states?

00:35:10.000 I'm going to ask how.

00:35:10.000 Bay Smokes.

00:35:11.000 Right.

00:35:12.000 Bay Smokes, you gotta explain to us.

00:35:13.000 I know how it's legal.

00:35:14.000 How?

00:35:15.000 Bay Smokes got the paperwork.

00:35:18.000 He figured it out.

00:35:20.000 Well, it all should be legal.

00:35:21.000 I think he got hemp.

00:35:21.000 He sell hemp as well.

00:35:22.000 Oh, okay.

00:35:23.000 So that was the key about it.

00:35:24.000 To be able to get the clearance in 50 states Bay Smokes.

00:35:27.000 I don't know how the DEA feels about that, but I feel like we're just a few years away from it being completely legal.

00:35:34.000 I know Kamala was saying that she wanted to make it legal if she got into office. 1.00

00:35:37.000 Yeah, that's the best thing she ever said.

00:35:39.000 You want some coffee?

00:35:39.000 I hope Trump does it too.

00:35:41.000 Yeah, that'd be cool.

00:35:42.000 I really do, because it's stupid.

00:35:44.000 Thank you, brother.

00:35:45.000 I mean, if you don't want to smoke pot, don't smoke pot.

00:35:47.000 If you don't want to drink whiskey, don't drink whiskey.

00:35:49.000 It's your choice.

00:35:50.000 Yeah, just give people choice.

00:35:53.000 And don't tell me it's all bad for you.

00:35:55.000 Stop.

00:35:55.000 You don't know.

00:35:56.000 You don't know.

00:35:57.000 You obviously don't smoke weed.

00:35:58.000 Shut your mouth.

00:35:59.000 You dig?

00:36:01.000 It's going to make you lazy and ruin the children.

00:36:04.000 No.

00:36:05.000 No, you have lazy kids. 0.99

00:36:06.000 You get kids high, they get paranoid.

00:36:08.000 When they get paranoid, they work harder.

00:36:09.000 They start picturing yourself old in your deathbed, like, what did I do?

00:36:15.000 Like, oh my god, I gotta get to work.

00:36:17.000 Sometimes a little paranoia is good for you.

00:36:19.000 I like it.

00:36:21.000 That's going to put that fire on you to get going.

00:36:23.000 Yeah, comfort is the worst poison that a man can consume.

00:36:27.000 Don't seek comfort.

00:36:28.000 No, no, no, no.

00:36:29.000 Got to commit to be the difference.

00:36:30.000 Yeah, you get to enjoy comfort when you earn it.

00:36:33.000 You know, long days work.

00:36:35.000 You want to come home, sit in front of the television, watch a little Netflix, have a good time, have a nice meal at a restaurant.

00:36:41.000 Yeah, yeah, you earned that.

00:36:43.000 But don't think that's what you want out of life.

00:36:46.000 I just want to retire and drink.

00:36:48.000 Jordan Peterson talked about this.

00:36:50.000 He said, what's your vision of retirement?

00:36:52.000 He's like, is your vision of retirement, sitting on the beach, drinking margaritas?

00:36:56.000 Like, how long do you think you can do that for?

00:36:58.000 Maybe a day.

00:36:59.000 Yeah.

00:37:00.000 Two days?

00:37:00.000 A week?

00:37:01.000 Two weeks?

00:37:02.000 Life is already gone.

00:37:03.000 You're going to be depressed.

00:37:04.000 You have no purpose in life?

00:37:06.000 Yeah.

00:37:07.000 I think the problem really is that a lot of people don't have any purpose while they're working.

00:37:12.000 Like, a lot of people aren't fortunate to pursue a career in football and to be, you know, a podcaster or something they enjoy.

00:37:20.000 They're doing something that sucks, so they can't wait until they don't have to do the thing that sucks.

00:37:24.000 And they think, oh, I could just be free just to lay around and do nothing.

00:37:27.000 Like, man, you better find something to do.

00:37:30.000 You better go play golf.

00:37:31.000 Life's always about being driven.

00:37:33.000 The moment you think you can stop and just not do nothing, then...

00:37:37.000 You're going to be stopped.

00:37:38.000 You got to keep going.

00:37:39.000 Exactly.

00:37:40.000 That's what I tell all my friends to start getting successful.

00:37:43.000 People are like, oh, you made it.

00:37:44.000 You can relax now.

00:37:45.000 I go, listen to me.

00:37:46.000 There is no made it.

00:37:47.000 You made it when you're done.

00:37:49.000 There is no made it.

00:37:50.000 Made it is not real.

00:37:52.000 It is just life.

00:37:53.000 Exactly.

00:37:54.000 You're living life.

00:37:55.000 You're successful.

00:37:56.000 Good.

00:37:56.000 That means you have an obligation to work harder to keep it rolling.

00:37:59.000 Hold up.

00:37:59.000 That's standard.

00:38:00.000 You got standard to it.

00:38:01.000 You got to keep going.

00:38:02.000 You got to push it harder now.

00:38:03.000 But there's no made it.

00:38:05.000 There's no fucking holding hands and walking out into the sunset.

00:38:08.000 That's just a mentality for people in that contentment.

00:38:12.000 Just wanting to be content in regards of everything's done, right?

00:38:16.000 Yes.

00:38:16.000 They want to get off work.

00:38:18.000 That's what it is.

00:38:19.000 They want to get off work and relax.

00:38:19.000 They want to go do some...

00:38:21.000 On their own time.

00:38:22.000 Yeah, because most people are not really living.

00:38:25.000 They're just surviving.

00:38:26.000 They're just existing.

00:38:27.000 Doing what they have to do.

00:38:29.000 Yeah.

00:38:29.000 And the only time they feel like they're living is they're hanging out with their friends.

00:38:32.000 Yeah.

00:38:32.000 Having fun, relaxing.

00:38:33.000 But you can't do that professionally.

00:38:35.000 So you gotta find something you enjoy as much as your hobbies.

00:38:40.000 Figure out how to do that.

00:38:41.000 Gotta live life, you know what I mean?

00:38:43.000 Healthy.

00:38:43.000 Yeah.

00:38:44.000 Exercise what you eat.

00:38:45.000 Yeah.

00:38:46.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:47.000 Yes.

00:38:47.000 When you first started posting wild shit on Twitter, did anybody ever call you and go, hey man, you gotta stop?

00:38:53.000 Of course.

00:38:53.000 Everyone.

00:38:53.000 They was like, bro, what the fuck?

00:38:56.000 They called my phone like, bro, you idiot.

00:38:58.000 You calling people crackers now?

00:39:01.000 I'm like, bro, it's an uncomfortable sense of humor for comedy, bro.

00:39:05.000 Well, cracker is the most benign of all insults.

00:39:08.000 That doesn't work at all.

00:39:10.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:39:11.000 Everyone loves crackers.

00:39:12.000 Yeah, no one's upset.

00:39:13.000 Cheez-Its.

00:39:14.000 No one's upset.

00:39:15.000 I just feel like when they first started, when I first started, they're like, what the hell is you doing?

00:39:18.000 Oh, the faggot of the day, they're like, whoa. 1.00

00:39:25.000 Yeah.

00:39:25.000 You know what I mean?

00:39:27.000 But I was like, you know what?

00:39:28.000 It's not meant to, like, it's meant to bring people up to say, like, yo, we could...

00:39:32.000 Have a funny moment.

00:39:33.000 For fun.

00:39:34.000 Yeah.

00:39:35.000 Yeah, fun.

00:39:35.000 Enjoy yourself, man.

00:39:36.000 Enjoy yourself.

00:39:37.000 Yeah, we need a lot more of that.

00:39:40.000 But I think we were conditioned, because of the way the old Twitter worked, to be very careful of what you said, very cautious of what you said.

00:39:48.000 And also, there was real consequences.

00:39:50.000 Yeah.

00:39:51.000 You wouldn't just get banned from Twitter.

00:39:53.000 You might get banned from Facebook and everything else as well, and then get labeled a dangerous person.

00:39:59.000 100%.

00:39:59.000 I remember when one of my football friends...

00:40:02.000 Rashard Mendenhall, back in the days he tweeted, it was like 2012, he tweeted about like 9-11 when he was playing.

00:40:10.000 And I remember right away, they had like the feds calling his phone, newspaper, it was crazy.

00:40:17.000 What did he say?

00:40:17.000 He just like, I don't think we should be celebrating the death, I think the death of Osama bin Laden, I think it was for the 9-11 attack, I think in 2012, I think he must.

00:40:28.000 We just killed him.

00:40:30.000 America just had killed him.

00:40:32.000 I feel like he tweeted something and it was like...

00:40:35.000 That's when we back on Twitter.

00:40:36.000 It was like you was limiting what you could say.

00:40:39.000 That was a prime example of, you know...

00:40:42.000 And did they attack him?

00:40:43.000 They attacked him all over the news.

00:40:45.000 I think that was his last year with the Steelers.

00:40:46.000 Really?

00:40:47.000 Literally.

00:40:48.000 They got rid of him because of a tweet?

00:40:49.000 Yeah.

00:40:51.000 Goddamn.

00:40:51.000 What did he say?

00:40:53.000 Can you find out what he said, Jamie?

00:40:56.000 9-11.

00:40:57.000 Shout out to Rashard Mendenhall.

00:40:58.000 That's my brother.

00:41:02.000 Yeah, that was a dangerous time to say controversial shit.

00:41:06.000 You'd lose your whole career and you couldn't get it back.

00:41:09.000 Yeah, yeah, it'll be over.

00:41:10.000 You couldn't get it back back then.

00:41:11.000 I mean, nobody rebounded from those days.

00:41:16.000 Like, there was people that had...

00:41:17.000 Like big public personas, and then they kind of got removed from the conversation.

00:41:23.000 And even when they got brought back years later, they were so devastated.

00:41:28.000 Traumatized.

00:41:29.000 They had CT by that time.

00:41:30.000 Like, legit.

00:41:31.000 They have trauma.

00:41:32.000 Like, you're legitimately worried.

00:41:34.000 So what does he say?

00:41:35.000 Mendehal's post, day after Bin Laden news broke, said, What kind of person celebrates death?

00:41:39.000 It's amazing how people can hate a man they have never heard speak.

00:41:43.000 We only heard one side.

00:41:44.000 He also tweeted September 11 attacks.

00:41:46.000 We never know what really happened.

00:41:49.000 I just have a hard time believing a plane could take a skyscraper down, demolition style.

00:41:54.000 The latter post is eventually removed by Mendehal's Twitter page.

00:41:58.000 Wendy's offering was a different story.

00:42:00.000 I appreciate those who've decided to read this letter and attain a greater understanding of my recent Twitter post.

00:42:05.000 See, I've gotten misconstrued, and I wanted to use this outlet as a way to clear up things that do not truthfully represent myself, what I stand for personally, and any organization that I'm a part of.

00:42:15.000 First, I want people to understand I'm not in support of Bin Laden or against the USA. I understand how devastating 9-11 was to this country and to the people whose families were affected, not just in the USA, but families all over the world who had relatives in the World Trade Center.

00:42:27.000 My heart goes out to the troops who fight for our freedoms every day Not being certain if they will have the opportunity to return home and the families who watched their loved ones bravely go off to war Last year I was grateful enough to have the opportunity to travel overseas to participate in football camp and put on for the children of U.S. Troops sanctioned in Germany.

00:42:45.000 It was a special experience.

00:42:46.000 These events had a significant impact in my life.

00:42:49.000 Oh Point out the celebrates death tweet This controversial statement was something I said in response to amount of joy.

00:42:55.000 I saw in the event of murder.

00:42:57.000 Oh Don't believe this is an issue of politics or American pride, but one of religion morality and human ethics see that's the problem with Tweets because you're writing something it's 120 characters back then and it's just You know a complicated issue like that thing like maybe we shouldn't be celebrating death Maybe we shouldn't be celebrating murder,

00:43:21.000 you know, you know, maybe we should Instead of having joy and cheering, maybe we should wonder how that guy got into the position he's in in the first place.

00:43:31.000 Like, what happened?

00:43:31.000 If you know the whole history of Osama bin Laden, it's kind of fucking crazy, because he worked for us.

00:43:37.000 He was the head of the Mujahideen.

00:43:39.000 Yeah.

00:43:40.000 Yeah, and we trained them.

00:43:41.000 The CIA trained them to fight against the Soviets.

00:43:44.000 And, you know, we fucking...

00:43:47.000 Armed those people, supplied them, got them going.

00:43:50.000 And then, you know, after a while, they're like, fuck these people.

00:43:52.000 They turned on America.

00:43:53.000 And instead of being our ally, they were our worst enemy.

00:43:56.000 What are you doing over there?

00:43:57.000 Snapchat?

00:43:58.000 What's going on?

00:43:58.000 No, I was just touching myself.

00:43:59.000 You don't Snapchat, do you?

00:44:00.000 No, I'm gonna be Snapchat.

00:44:01.000 No, the kids Snapchat.

00:44:03.000 My kids don't even text.

00:44:04.000 They just snap their friends.

00:44:06.000 They're in the middle of the movie theater or something.

00:44:08.000 They're like, take a weird face, send it to their friends.

00:44:10.000 I'm like, what are you doing?

00:44:11.000 This is a weird way to communicate.

00:44:14.000 Snapchat just got all the filters of the face.

00:44:16.000 You could just make a cradle with the text.

00:44:18.000 Kids are just all in addicted to Snapchat.

00:44:20.000 I was just texting my son.

00:44:21.000 You know, another thing that's weird too is they all have a snap map so they know where they all are.

00:44:26.000 They're like, oh, she's with him, that fucking bitch. 1.00

00:44:30.000 You see?

00:44:31.000 You see where all your friends are.

00:44:33.000 You got a map of all your friends that you let go.

00:44:36.000 You can see a whole layout where everyone at.

00:44:37.000 It's weird, man.

00:44:38.000 They're all little surveillance experts.

00:44:40.000 Standing on the map.

00:44:42.000 Yeah, they're all little narcs.

00:44:43.000 They're all narcing at each other.

00:44:46.000 But the crazy thing is they give it up to each other.

00:44:49.000 They all, like, you have to, if you have friends, you have to let your friends know where you are on the snap map.

00:44:55.000 And if you block it, like, if you block them temporarily, what is she doing?

00:44:59.000 Where do you go?

00:44:59.000 What is he up to?

00:45:00.000 You off the grid?

00:45:01.000 He's off the grid.

00:45:02.000 What is this motherfucker?

00:45:04.000 What is he doing?

00:45:05.000 How's it going on?

00:45:06.000 Yeah.

00:45:07.000 Man, kids today, they don't have any fucking privacy.

00:45:10.000 No, no.

00:45:10.000 Everything's exposed.

00:45:12.000 Everything's exposed.

00:45:13.000 Yeah.

00:45:14.000 What year were you born?

00:45:16.000 88, 1988. Okay, so by the time you were 20 years old, phones were just starting to arrive, right?

00:45:23.000 Like 98-ish.

00:45:25.000 Sidekick.

00:45:26.000 Right.

00:45:28.000 Sidekicks.

00:45:28.000 Remember the sidekick?

00:45:29.000 Yeah, flip it over.

00:45:30.000 I was so jealous.

00:45:31.000 Like, wow, you got a keyboard?

00:45:33.000 That's crazy.

00:45:34.000 You got a little keyboard?

00:45:35.000 And then people's sidekicks were getting hacked.

00:45:38.000 Remember Paris Hilton?

00:45:39.000 Some pussy photos got out, I believe. 0.91

00:45:43.000 She had to sign a vagina. 1.00

00:45:47.000 Maybe she just had a pretty one. 0.95

00:45:49.000 Some girls are just born with a pretty one. 1.00

00:45:51.000 Crazy.

00:45:52.000 But some girls do get designer vaginas, which is like, ladies, you don't have to do that. 1.00

00:45:56.000 Don't do that.

00:45:56.000 We don't care what it looks like.

00:45:57.000 I don't mind a little chaos down there.

00:46:00.000 I don't mind a little Harry Potter.

00:46:01.000 Yeah, you don't have to.

00:46:03.000 I hit it with my wand still.

00:46:04.000 You have to trim it up, make it look like the perfect wonton.

00:46:07.000 That's not necessary.

00:46:08.000 If it's hairy, then that means it's not really being spanked a lot.

00:46:11.000 I don't know if that's true.

00:46:13.000 There's a lot of hairy ladies with loose morals. 1.00

00:46:14.000 Damn.

00:46:15.000 I thought a hairy pussy is not a busy pussy. 1.00

00:46:20.000 It depends on what she's doing with it.

00:46:21.000 She might just let it work because nobody's getting it.

00:46:24.000 Maybe.

00:46:25.000 Maybe.

00:46:26.000 If she cleaned it off, that means she's getting ready to give it.

00:46:28.000 I guess dudes do get dick operations, right? 1.00

00:46:30.000 Because they get circumcised. 0.52

00:46:31.000 That's a dick look operation.

00:46:33.000 This must be a shortage of dick. 0.99

00:46:34.000 I hear how much pussy I'm getting.

00:46:37.000 Well, that's always the story.

00:46:39.000 Is that 80% of the women are dating 20% of the men. 0.58

00:46:43.000 That's the real story of life.

00:46:45.000 That's the reality.

00:46:46.000 80% of the women are attracted to and are dating, or excuse me, yeah, 80% of the women are attracted to and are dating 20% of the men.

00:46:54.000 Always.

00:46:54.000 So that's why there's so many incels in this world.

00:46:57.000 Too many ratios.

00:46:57.000 So many dudes just jerking off and playing video games because nobody wants them.

00:47:01.000 And that's a self-fulfilling prophecy because if you keep jerking off and playing video games, you're never going to succeed in life.

00:47:07.000 So no one's ever going to look at you like, hmm.

00:47:09.000 You're never going to get the opportunity.

00:47:11.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:14.000 Damn.

00:47:14.000 I'm glad I'm not born in this era.

00:47:17.000 This is a terrifying era to navigate for kids.

00:47:20.000 Also, the ability to just send a dick picture when you're 15, that's crazy.

00:47:24.000 Yeah, you can just pop it out.

00:47:26.000 Yeah, that's too much responsibility for a young man.

00:47:30.000 That's like giving a young man a nuclear weapon.

00:47:35.000 He can't handle that.

00:47:38.000 Yeah.

00:47:39.000 That's too much movie.

00:47:40.000 That's way too much.

00:47:41.000 That's way too much.

00:47:43.000 And then they all got porn now, which is even crazier.

00:47:45.000 It's too available nowadays.

00:47:47.000 Too much at the finger of these kids.

00:47:49.000 Yeah, instantaneously.

00:47:50.000 Not just porn, but murder.

00:47:52.000 Man, me and my friend Tom Segura.

00:47:53.000 Do you know Tom Segura?

00:47:54.000 I heard of his name.

00:47:55.000 He's hilarious.

00:47:56.000 You need to do his show.

00:47:57.000 He would have you on.

00:47:59.000 Your Mom's House, it's a great podcast.

00:48:01.000 It's a huge podcast.

00:48:02.000 But he and I send each other every day the worst shit we could find on the internet.

00:48:07.000 The worst shit that...

00:48:08.000 It comes across my Instagram feed.

00:48:10.000 I send it to Tom.

00:48:11.000 It's every day.

00:48:12.000 It's someone getting murdered.

00:48:13.000 Some crazy shit out of the day.

00:48:14.000 Some craziness on there, right?

00:48:16.000 It's always some shit like, wow.

00:48:18.000 And it's not one time a day.

00:48:19.000 It's all a day, right?

00:48:20.000 It's like multiple times a day.

00:48:21.000 We're traumatizing each other.

00:48:23.000 It's like, what the hell is this?

00:48:24.000 Today was a dude who crashed his motorcycle right into a gas truck.

00:48:28.000 This dude just rode his motorcycle.

00:48:30.000 The bike explodes, catches on fire.

00:48:34.000 The tank explodes.

00:48:35.000 The dude gets cooked.

00:48:37.000 Damn.

00:48:38.000 Yeah.

00:48:38.000 He just went fried turkey on the middle of the street.

00:48:40.000 One day he's riding his motorcycle enjoying freedom and then a second later, boom!

00:48:46.000 I've seen every horrible video that's on the internet.

00:48:49.000 Every one of them.

00:48:50.000 That's crazy.

00:48:52.000 That's fucking ludicrous.

00:48:54.000 The internet is undefeated, but it is our shit.

00:48:56.000 Like, we run the internet.

00:48:58.000 Yes.

00:48:59.000 It's open.

00:49:01.000 Yeah.

00:49:01.000 That's the beautiful thing.

00:49:02.000 Like, you get these memes.

00:49:04.000 I don't even know who's making them, and they're hilarious.

00:49:08.000 Someone's texting them to you.

00:49:09.000 All the time.

00:49:10.000 I see one.

00:49:12.000 I see one today.

00:49:13.000 I posted it.

00:49:14.000 It was like, the wrestling guy has no condoms, and then Elon Musk.

00:49:21.000 I was like, I don't like condoms either, so I could have put my name in.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, Elon Musk has how many kids now that we know of?

00:49:28.000 I didn't know he was getting so much pussy. 1.00

00:49:29.000 I thought Elon Musk was a calm guy.

00:49:33.000 I wouldn't say he's calm.

00:49:35.000 I mean, I think it's going back to the Kanye Ferrari engine analogy.

00:49:39.000 It's the same kind of thing.

00:49:40.000 It's just in a different realm.

00:49:41.000 That's what he is with rocket science and car design and satellites.

00:49:47.000 Spaceship in the pussy. 1.00

00:49:48.000 Exactly.

00:49:49.000 Also, when you are literally the richest man in the world, it just comes to you, right?

00:49:55.000 What are his DMs like?

00:49:57.000 His DM's jumping out the gym, huh?

00:49:59.000 Full of titties.

00:50:00.000 Full of titties, huh?

00:50:02.000 Back shots.

00:50:03.000 Full of everything.

00:50:04.000 Everything.

00:50:06.000 Squats and fingers.

00:50:10.000 Sucking on bananas.

00:50:11.000 His DM's must be wild.

00:50:14.000 He's got a movie theater in his DM. There's girls just thinking, like, what's the move?

00:50:18.000 What's the right thing to send him?

00:50:20.000 You know Sean Kingston?

00:50:21.000 My God loves you.

00:50:22.000 No.

00:50:22.000 He's calling right now.

00:50:24.000 He's calling me right now because he loves you.

00:50:26.000 Tell him what's up.

00:50:27.000 Yo, Sean!

00:50:28.000 What's up, Sean?

00:50:30.000 What's going on, my man?

00:50:31.000 How you doing?

00:50:33.000 I'm a huge fan, man.

00:50:34.000 We gotta do an interview, man.

00:50:35.000 That's my brother you got up there, man.

00:50:36.000 Tony O'Brien is my brother, man.

00:50:38.000 Alright, man.

00:50:39.000 Well, cool.

00:50:39.000 That sounds great.

00:50:40.000 I love him, man.

00:50:42.000 I would love to go up there.

00:50:43.000 What's up, A-Bizzle?

00:50:44.000 What's up, baby?

00:50:45.000 We're here with Joe right now.

00:50:47.000 We're live right now.

00:50:49.000 You live right now, Sean.

00:50:51.000 Yeah, shout out to Joe Rogan, the best motherfucking podcast.

00:50:54.000 Can I curse?

00:50:54.000 Yeah, you're loud.

00:50:55.000 You're loud It's the best podcast I go to sleep watching this This man talks so many This man got knowledge of a man Listen Joe Rose is the best Thank you, sir.

00:51:04.000 Appreciate you, man.

00:51:05.000 Thank you very much.

00:51:06.000 Thank you.

00:51:06.000 Love you, brother.

00:51:08.000 I'll call you after, brother.

00:51:10.000 Everyone excited I'm here.

00:51:12.000 Even Theo Vaughn told me to play some Trick Daddy.

00:51:15.000 Oh, okay.

00:51:16.000 Everyone loves you, Joe.

00:51:17.000 Theo's the best.

00:51:18.000 Theo's the man, too.

00:51:19.000 I love that dude.

00:51:19.000 Yeah, he's the best.

00:51:20.000 He's so unique.

00:51:21.000 Yeah, he's different.

00:51:22.000 I don't know anybody like him.

00:51:23.000 Swaggy, cool, calm.

00:51:24.000 Got the mullet going.

00:51:27.000 He's swaggy.

00:51:27.000 And just the way he talks.

00:51:29.000 He's so ridiculous.

00:51:30.000 Yeah, he got the country.

00:51:32.000 Theo and I went to dinner the other night, and we're sitting at the table eating dinner for an hour and a half.

00:51:37.000 We're just nonstop crying, laughing.

00:51:39.000 Just crying, laughing.

00:51:41.000 At the end, my sides hurt when we got up from the table.

00:51:44.000 I was like, oh my god, that was so much fun.

00:51:47.000 Having friends like that is the best, because everywhere you go, you have a personal show.

00:51:51.000 Yeah, it's always entertaining.

00:51:53.000 Yeah, we're just always fucking around and having fun.

00:51:56.000 What about Shane Gillis?

00:51:57.000 He's the best.

00:51:58.000 He's the best, right?

00:51:58.000 He's the best.

00:51:59.000 He's hilarious.

00:52:00.000 Yeah, we were just hanging out Tuesday night.

00:52:02.000 Yeah, Shane's awesome.

00:52:03.000 He loves you, too.

00:52:04.000 Yeah, that's my heart, man.

00:52:05.000 Yeah, all my comedian friends love you.

00:52:06.000 They're all sharing your shit all the time.

00:52:08.000 Yeah, I love those guys.

00:52:08.000 Yeah, he was excited when he got Cracker of the Year, too.

00:52:11.000 Yeah, he's amazing.

00:52:14.000 He's killing it, too.

00:52:15.000 He is.

00:52:16.000 He's killing it.

00:52:16.000 He's so funny, man.

00:52:18.000 And he's such a good guy.

00:52:19.000 He's such a sweetheart.

00:52:21.000 You can just see by a smile.

00:52:23.000 100%.

00:52:24.000 Just sweetheart of a guy.

00:52:26.000 And, you know, I'm just glad there's more people like that in the world.

00:52:30.000 Yeah, we need more people like that, like him.

00:52:32.000 Yeah.

00:52:33.000 In a world that's just, you know, prayer, doing what they love, giving back comedy, making people light up.

00:52:38.000 Yeah.

00:52:38.000 And spreading fun.

00:52:41.000 Again, back to the same thing that you do.

00:52:43.000 Fun.

00:52:44.000 Yeah.

00:52:44.000 Fun.

00:52:44.000 There's people who enjoy themselves again.

00:52:46.000 You know, let's be out of natural selves.

00:52:48.000 Make the uncomfortable a little comfortable and a little fun.

00:52:51.000 Yeah.

00:52:52.000 Well, especially in today's era of everybody...

00:52:55.000 We're getting past the days where everything was, like, tight and everybody was going crazy.

00:53:00.000 And I think things are lightening up.

00:53:01.000 And thanks to Elon buying X, that had a huge impact.

00:53:05.000 Because I think people realize that it wasn't just them that was thinking things had gone too far.

00:53:10.000 It was most people.

00:53:11.000 But they didn't have a way to express themselves because if they said it, they got attacked.

00:53:15.000 Yeah, no one wanna ruin what they built up for a couple seconds and what they say exactly It takes so long to build your shit.

00:53:23.000 Yeah, like I just showed.

00:53:24.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly You lose everything for one moment.

00:53:28.000 Yeah, so you're sitting there Maybe you got a couple of drinks in you and you're like, you know, I gotta fucking say something like someone needs to be there to grab Your hand like you know calm that shit.

00:53:36.000 No ruin everything.

00:53:37.000 Don't build this do it.

00:53:38.000 Don't do it Take yourself out the game, but I think now if you do that people go.

00:53:42.000 Yeah, I I'm glad you said that because I was thinking the same thing.

00:53:47.000 Now it's different because people feel like they can express themselves, which is the real danger of censorship.

00:53:52.000 Even if you don't agree with what someone is saying, you've got to let them say it because if you don't, someone's going to limit what you say.

00:54:00.000 And that's just the nature of free speech.

00:54:02.000 Exactly.

00:54:02.000 I feel like we all have the right to own opinion.

00:54:04.000 No matter if it's right or wrong, it's just your opinion.

00:54:08.000 100%.

00:54:08.000 Look, you don't have to go to your Twitter page.

00:54:11.000 You don't have to go to my Twitter page.

00:54:12.000 You don't have to listen.

00:54:13.000 Yeah, it's your option.

00:54:15.000 It's your option, but you should have that option, and you should have the option to express yourself.

00:54:20.000 You should also have the option to say things, and if you think that it was misconstrued, do what he did and lay it all out.

00:54:27.000 This is how I really feel.

00:54:28.000 This is my actual feelings, and I feel like if you read that, he should have been completely forgiven.

00:54:35.000 The idea that they traded him after that.

00:54:37.000 That's disgusting.

00:54:38.000 Because that's also censorship.

00:54:41.000 Because now you're encouraging other people to keep their mouth shut.

00:54:44.000 Exactly.

00:54:44.000 Showing them the rules.

00:54:46.000 The aftermath of what's going to come if you do that.

00:54:50.000 100%.

00:54:50.000 So I was grateful that we're in better times and things getting better.

00:54:53.000 People were able to express themselves more on the X app.

00:54:57.000 Thanks, Elon Musk, for giving us that good freedom of speech.

00:55:02.000 I think the country's moving in a good direction.

00:55:04.000 As long as we can avoid this fucking war, as long as we can avoid war and war with China and war with Russia and everybody else, if we could just avoid that, I think we're gonna be okay.

00:55:15.000 We just gotta make it through some weird shit.

00:55:17.000 Yes.

00:55:17.000 And UFOs.

00:55:18.000 And UFOs.

00:55:19.000 You saw those UFOs.

00:55:21.000 Yeah, man.

00:55:21.000 They're everywhere.

00:55:22.000 I don't know what to think.

00:55:24.000 Some days I think we're being visited and some days I think it's all the government.

00:55:29.000 It's all bullshit.

00:55:29.000 It's all drones.

00:55:31.000 What do you think it is?

00:55:33.000 Maybe we need to just call the men in black.

00:55:38.000 See if they know.

00:55:39.000 The men in black, I think, are real.

00:55:41.000 I think that's government agents that come visit you after you've had some sort of an experience.

00:55:45.000 Maybe.

00:55:47.000 I think that's what it is.

00:55:48.000 I mean, there's always been these stories of men in black coming to visit people after they've had encounters.

00:55:54.000 Yeah.

00:55:54.000 I mean, it makes sense.

00:55:55.000 If you're yapping about some shit, especially if it's actually some government shit that they're working on, and then, you know, some two men in suits come up, and when you see two men show up in a Cadillac in suits, you automatically assume they're serious people.

00:56:08.000 They get out with black suits, black ties, and they look at you and they tell you, hey, Antonio, we'd like to talk to you about your encounter.

00:56:15.000 And then you're like, oh shit, I'm in trouble.

00:56:17.000 And then they're doing some hypnosis on you and some mind control shit, you know, and bringing you in a room.

00:56:22.000 And then you leave, you don't know.

00:56:24.000 What the fuck happened?

00:56:26.000 Antonio got visited by the Men in Black.

00:56:28.000 That's what I think the Men in Black is.

00:56:30.000 I think it's government agents investigating.

00:56:33.000 Or if there's like a legitimate UFO sighting, like something legitimately that the government doesn't know what the fuck it is.

00:56:39.000 I think then also they would send people.

00:56:42.000 Who are authority figures.

00:56:44.000 What better authority figure than a man in a suit?

00:56:46.000 Yeah.

00:56:47.000 You know?

00:56:47.000 Yeah.

00:56:49.000 Random as fuck.

00:56:50.000 Yeah.

00:56:51.000 Will Smith.

00:56:52.000 Men in black.

00:56:52.000 Wearing a suit.

00:56:53.000 I don't think they really can erase your memory.

00:56:55.000 I don't think they go poop.

00:56:56.000 No, I don't think they can do that.

00:56:58.000 But I do think that they probably use mind control on you.

00:57:01.000 They probably hypnotize you.

00:57:02.000 They probably manipulate the way you think, especially if you're under stress, if you're nervous, like you think you could be in trouble, like something's going on.

00:57:09.000 It gets you out.

00:57:10.000 Yeah.

00:57:10.000 I remember Tony Robbins kind of did that to me one time.

00:57:13.000 He did it to you?

00:57:14.000 Yeah, you know Tony Robbins?

00:57:15.000 What did he do?

00:57:16.000 He did that, kind of hypnosis me a little bit.

00:57:20.000 Really?

00:57:21.000 Yeah.

00:57:21.000 How did he do it?

00:57:23.000 You gotta, like, just sink some stuff in my spirit.

00:57:25.000 Just like, yo, AB, go win the Super Bowl.

00:57:28.000 See yourself like this.

00:57:29.000 Oh, really?

00:57:30.000 Yeah.

00:57:31.000 Tony Robbins is really amazing.

00:57:32.000 I met him through Tom Brady.

00:57:33.000 Oh, really?

00:57:34.000 Writing a book all the time.

00:57:35.000 Does Tom Brady use him, too?

00:57:36.000 Yeah.

00:57:37.000 So he, like, does, like, mind coaching for you?

00:57:39.000 Yeah.

00:57:40.000 I put you right to sleep, everything.

00:57:42.000 Really?

00:57:42.000 Yeah.

00:57:43.000 So how does it...

00:57:44.000 Explain it to me.

00:57:45.000 Like, lay it out.

00:57:46.000 How does it go?

00:57:46.000 It's just kind of like, you know what I mean?

00:57:47.000 Close your eyes.

00:57:49.000 You just say a lot of stuff and just...

00:57:51.000 Just kind of put it in your spirit.

00:57:53.000 You know Tony Robbins, right?

00:57:55.000 Sure.

00:57:56.000 Bro, I read his books when I was 21 years old in 1988. I was reading his book when I was trying to figure out how to make it in comedy.

00:58:05.000 It was like a cassette thing.

00:58:08.000 You have a bunch of cassettes, and each one has work.

00:58:16.000 all these different things it's he's got like legit great information yeah i want to see him in boca return maybe like 2020 right before i got with tampa bay it was like yo you're gonna win the super bowl man you're gonna make a big catch see yourself really just lock it in in my spirit just like it's pretty cool man shout out to tony robbins for doing that i think there's something to He got a real good manifestation and just...

00:58:44.000 Yeah.

00:58:45.000 Downloading a program in your body just for just seeing yourself at that place.

00:58:49.000 It was another level.

00:58:50.000 I think that shit works.

00:58:51.000 I think there's limitations to it.

00:58:53.000 I don't think you could take a sloppy accountant and say, you're going to beat Mike Tyson.

00:58:57.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:58:59.000 You can't just do that shit.

00:59:00.000 It doesn't work like that.

00:59:01.000 It doesn't work like that.

00:59:03.000 But I think if you're already talented and you're already in the game, you could put some things in your mind and you could make some things happen.

00:59:13.000 I think there's a little bit of something to that.

00:59:15.000 But it's not everything.

00:59:17.000 Did you ever see that movie The Secret?

00:59:20.000 Of course.

00:59:20.000 That's a nice book, too.

00:59:21.000 Yeah.

00:59:22.000 So The Secret, I think...

00:59:24.000 It's about some of those things, right?

00:59:25.000 It's about one aspect of it, but they concentrate too much on the one aspect.

00:59:30.000 The one aspect is the visualization, which I think is an aspect.

00:59:35.000 Like, imagining, speaking it into being...

00:59:39.000 That's one aspect.

00:59:40.000 But there's a lot of other shit too.

00:59:42.000 A lot of aspects, yeah.

00:59:43.000 There's talent.

00:59:44.000 There's hard work.

00:59:45.000 There's good coaching.

00:59:46.000 There's discipline.

00:59:47.000 Discipline is probably the most important.

00:59:50.000 Yeah, the most important.

00:59:51.000 As a football player, you must have felt like that, right?

00:59:53.000 Of course.

00:59:54.000 Discipline is the way you emanate success.

00:59:57.000 Yes.

00:59:57.000 You go on the road trips and you're messing with girls.

01:00:01.000 Not getting sleep.

01:00:02.000 Yeah, not getting sleep, not eating the right foods.

01:00:05.000 Exactly.

01:00:06.000 Not making your workouts and hitting those.

01:00:09.000 Yep.

01:00:09.000 Yeah.

01:00:10.000 Studying that film.

01:00:11.000 Discipline the most important.

01:00:12.000 It's so important for everything in life.

01:00:15.000 So, like, to think that the secret is the only thing, you just have to think around and visualize it like, uh-uh.

01:00:19.000 It's not the only thing.

01:00:21.000 No, it's an aspect that I think is real, but the problem is people put so much emphasis on it that it becomes bullshit.

01:00:28.000 It becomes like woo-woo.

01:00:29.000 They don't think it's real.

01:00:31.000 But it is an aspect.

01:00:33.000 You know, Mike Tyson used to get hypnotized.

01:00:35.000 Gotta hypnotize yourself.

01:00:37.000 I feel like it just make your vision a part of your spirit.

01:00:40.000 Anytime, you know, because I feel like you can write stuff down, write affirmations, affirmations, you can set goals, but to meditate on them and make them a part of your spirit, like, it's different.

01:00:55.000 Yeah, to deeply think about them and embed them in your consciousness.

01:00:59.000 Make them a part of you.

01:01:00.000 Yeah, and then do all the work that's required to get yourself.

01:01:03.000 And then do all the little things.

01:01:04.000 Yeah.

01:01:05.000 You gotta do all that shit, too, so that it can manifest.

01:01:08.000 Everything can come together.

01:01:10.000 Yeah, so that it can happen.

01:01:11.000 And even then, it might not happen.

01:01:13.000 Like, you might not have done it right.

01:01:15.000 Maybe you need more work.

01:01:16.000 You gotta put it all together again.

01:01:17.000 Maybe you need more discipline.

01:01:19.000 Maybe you need more hard work.

01:01:20.000 Maybe you need better coaching.

01:01:21.000 But it's an aspect of success in life.

01:01:25.000 And I think with everything, with being a good parent, with being a good father, with being a good husband, with being a good friend, with being a good...

01:01:34.000 Employee, a good boss, like, with everything.

01:01:36.000 Everything you do.

01:01:37.000 You have to, like, have a mindset of what you're trying to accomplish.

01:01:41.000 Absolutely.

01:01:42.000 A vision.

01:01:43.000 And you gotta make it a part of you.

01:01:44.000 Not just writing down.

01:01:46.000 Yeah.

01:01:46.000 Just making every aspect, every step.

01:01:48.000 If you're gonna have success, a part of you.

01:01:50.000 How many times did you do that with Tony Robbins?

01:01:53.000 I did it, like, three times.

01:01:55.000 Yeah?

01:01:55.000 Yeah.

01:01:56.000 We did his house in Boca Raton.

01:01:58.000 Did the first time freak you out?

01:01:59.000 Because the first time was probably the weirdest one.

01:02:01.000 The first time was a little weird, but then when I went to sleep and woke up, I'm like, dang, I feel refreshed.

01:02:08.000 I feel like, you know what I'm saying?

01:02:10.000 I feel like I got some new feelings in myself.

01:02:13.000 Because I feel like at that point I was going through stuff in the NFL and I was kind of like was pissed off because I kind of knew like, man, these guys could just get you out your spot whenever you want.

01:02:22.000 But it was just like, I finally realized that, you know what?

01:02:26.000 It's not even about me being right in the situation.

01:02:29.000 It's about just being happy.

01:02:32.000 What made me happy in a situation instead of just focusing on, man, I'm right, man.

01:02:37.000 They did this.

01:02:37.000 I was right.

01:02:39.000 Right.

01:02:39.000 Just let it go and be happy.

01:02:41.000 Well, for a player, the best revenge is to be undeniable.

01:02:45.000 Yes.

01:02:45.000 Right?

01:02:46.000 People could talk all that shit, but when you're undeniable, they gotta give it up.

01:02:49.000 They gotta deal with it.

01:02:50.000 They gotta give it up.

01:02:51.000 That's the best revenge.

01:02:53.000 And I think that's probably the case in everything in life.

01:02:55.000 Is to be undeniable.

01:02:57.000 If you're undeniable, everybody's gotta shut the fuck up.

01:03:01.000 They all gotta shut the fuck up.

01:03:02.000 And if they don't shut the fuck up, they look foolish.

01:03:04.000 Not like idiots.

01:03:05.000 Not like a fool, yeah.

01:03:07.000 Just talk her for no reason because you know what happened.

01:03:09.000 Exactly.

01:03:10.000 You know?

01:03:10.000 He's just a hater right now, boy.

01:03:11.000 Oh, there's so many haters.

01:03:13.000 Yeah.

01:03:13.000 There's so many haters.

01:03:14.000 You gotta love your ops.

01:03:15.000 I feel like haters make you go harder.

01:03:18.000 They make you work harder.

01:03:19.000 Yeah, they bring the best out of you.

01:03:20.000 Oh, yeah, they do.

01:03:21.000 Haters are good.

01:03:22.000 Fat shaming works.

01:03:23.000 Yeah.

01:03:24.000 All that stuff.

01:03:25.000 Like, haters, like, the anger, the jealousy, mean shit, like, that motivates people.

01:03:32.000 Always reciprocate it, never doing it.

01:03:33.000 Too much.

01:03:33.000 You just don't want too much.

01:03:35.000 Don't overkill, but just a little tad bit.

01:03:37.000 If you get a little bit of snake venom every day, you get immune to snake venom.

01:03:40.000 Yeah.

01:03:41.000 Yeah.

01:03:41.000 But if you get a big dose, it'll fucking kill you.

01:03:43.000 Yeah, take you out the game.

01:03:44.000 Yeah, don't be like reading all your hate all day long.

01:03:47.000 That's not good for you either.

01:03:48.000 But a few haters...

01:03:50.000 A little motivation to...

01:03:51.000 Let's you know you're on the right track.

01:03:52.000 Yeah.

01:03:54.000 Let's you know you're transacting.

01:03:56.000 Yeah, you want a few haters.

01:03:57.000 If you don't have haters, it means you're not doing good enough to get haters.

01:04:02.000 Everybody who's doing great gets haters.

01:04:05.000 Some haters are hilarious, though.

01:04:07.000 Some haters are so dumb.

01:04:09.000 It's like you wonder if they're real people.

01:04:11.000 Like, for fighters, it's my favorite.

01:04:13.000 Like, oh, he's a pussy. 1.00

01:04:14.000 Like, what are you talking about?

01:04:16.000 That man is literally a professional fighter.

01:04:18.000 And you're calling him a pussy?

01:04:19.000 That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

01:04:21.000 Every fighter thinks every other fighter's a pussy. 1.00

01:04:24.000 They do!

01:04:25.000 They think they're bitches. 1.00

01:04:27.000 Well, that's the thing about alpha males.

01:04:29.000 They think they're the only one that's an alpha male.

01:04:31.000 They don't think there's someone out there exactly like that.

01:04:34.000 Like them, exactly.

01:04:35.000 And maybe a little faster, maybe a little stronger.

01:04:37.000 Maybe balls are a little bigger. 1.00

01:04:39.000 Yeah, maybe something.

01:04:40.000 A little more testosterone.

01:04:41.000 Yeah, maybe hands a little bigger, jaws a little wider.

01:04:44.000 See that little edge.

01:04:45.000 Little edge.

01:04:46.000 Little edge that allows them to survive the firefight.

01:04:49.000 Yeah.

01:04:51.000 How much UFC do you watch?

01:04:52.000 I watch UFC every Saturday.

01:04:54.000 Do you really?

01:04:55.000 I love Bone Jones.

01:04:56.000 I love fighting.

01:04:58.000 I feel like if I wasn't a player, I probably would have gotten into some sort of fighting.

01:05:02.000 Yeah?

01:05:02.000 Yeah.

01:05:03.000 Did you ever do any martial arts at all?

01:05:05.000 No, when I was little, my mom signed me up for karate.

01:05:08.000 Yeah.

01:05:08.000 Do a little jujitsu.

01:05:09.000 Oh, cool.

01:05:10.000 Okay.

01:05:12.000 But you never really got serious with it?

01:05:14.000 No, a couple of years.

01:05:15.000 That'd be a fun hobby for you.

01:05:17.000 I like training and working out with it, grappling, wrestling.

01:05:20.000 Jiu-jitsu is what I meant because that way you don't get hit.

01:05:23.000 I stopped sparring when I was like 27. Yeah, no hits to the heads, right?

01:05:27.000 It's over.

01:05:28.000 It's just they count.

01:05:30.000 Hits to the heads of the gym counts.

01:05:32.000 They all count.

01:05:33.000 All those little dinks, they all count.

01:05:39.000 It all adds up to some weird brain shit.

01:05:47.000 It doesn't quite work right.

01:05:49.000 This weekend's a big one, man.

01:05:51.000 Pereira and Ankulaev.

01:05:53.000 Yeah, Pereira been kicking ass, too.

01:05:55.000 He lost the last one, though, right?

01:05:56.000 He's ready to bounce back.

01:05:57.000 No, no, he won.

01:05:58.000 The last time he lost was against Israel Adesanya.

01:06:01.000 That was four fights ago, I believe.

01:06:03.000 Adesanya began his ass with a little bit, right? 0.99

01:06:04.000 He's been fighting too much.

01:06:05.000 He fight, like, back-to-back-to-back.

01:06:07.000 Well, he took a lot of time off, but, you know, he lost to Imovov, who's very, very good.

01:06:14.000 And he lost to Drekus Duplicy, who was the champion before that.

01:06:17.000 But he was winning that fight, but he got caught, and then he got strangled.

01:06:21.000 You know, I mean, it's hard to stay on top, man.

01:06:24.000 It's hard to stay on top.

01:06:26.000 And when he was in his prime, when he was dominating the division, he was the fucking man.

01:06:30.000 He was going crazy.

01:06:31.000 It's not like he's lost his skills, man.

01:06:33.000 It's just this is a tough fucking sport.

01:06:37.000 It's a tough fucking sport, and the sport does not rest.

01:06:40.000 The sport keeps evolving.

01:06:41.000 Everybody's coming.

01:06:43.000 These guys coming up, every year they're better.

01:06:46.000 Every year they're more complete.

01:06:48.000 There's no one-dimensional fighters anymore.

01:06:51.000 They can all do everything.

01:06:52.000 All these guys could just freaking bang out.

01:06:54.000 They can do everything.

01:06:55.000 The best guys today are all super multifaceted.

01:07:00.000 They all can do everything.

01:07:01.000 But then you have guys like Pereira, who's really a specialist.

01:07:06.000 He's a kickboxing specialist.

01:07:08.000 He's fired.

01:07:09.000 Do you ever watch him kickbox?

01:07:10.000 Nah, he's crazy.

01:07:11.000 I was a giant fan of his before he ever got to the UFC. I was telling everybody about him.

01:07:14.000 Like, if this guy gets to MMA, we got fucking problems.

01:07:18.000 He got problems.

01:07:18.000 That guy, he just has to touch you once.

01:07:21.000 Shit's going down.

01:07:22.000 He's so different than anybody else in the division.

01:07:25.000 Like, he knocks everybody out.

01:07:27.000 Everybody hits hard.

01:07:27.000 They all hit hard.

01:07:28.000 But he puts shit down.

01:07:30.000 Hard, hard.

01:07:32.000 Hard, hard.

01:07:33.000 You know they have that punch machine?

01:07:34.000 Oh yeah, you can see the power?

01:07:36.000 What's his power?

01:07:38.000 190. Francis Ngannou had like 130. Oh yeah, he got punch power.

01:07:43.000 He's got more power than Ngannou.

01:07:46.000 That's crazy!

01:07:47.000 I mean, I can't even believe it.

01:07:49.000 I want to give Francis a second chance at it.

01:07:51.000 I feel like he wasn't swinging hard enough.

01:07:53.000 I feel like if he knows that Pereira got one night, he's so much bigger.

01:07:57.000 Francis is like 270 natural.

01:08:01.000 270 pounds natural.

01:08:03.000 Fucking hog walking.

01:08:04.000 Yeah, just giant.

01:08:06.000 Massive.

01:08:06.000 And I feel like he could probably punch harder than he did.

01:08:10.000 I feel like if he knew that Pereira was going to break that record, give him a second crack at it.

01:08:13.000 Yeah, he'd probably go a little harder.

01:08:14.000 He'd probably punch it a little more hip action.

01:08:16.000 Yeah, a lot more.

01:08:17.000 Yeah, just fucking...

01:08:18.000 You know, but right now I think Pereira has the hardest.

01:08:23.000 See if you can find that video.

01:08:24.000 It's crazy to watch.

01:08:25.000 Because he...

01:08:26.000 He even does it with his right hand, which is not his power punch.

01:08:29.000 His power punch is his left hook.

01:08:32.000 His left hook is what he knocks out everybody with.

01:08:34.000 But it might be that his left hook is faster, and it's a better weapon because it's in the front, and his right hand is more powerful, but he just doesn't land it as often that way.

01:08:44.000 Did you find it?

01:08:46.000 It's crazy.

01:08:47.000 Did you hear the thud?

01:08:49.000 Put your headphones on real quick.

01:08:50.000 Listen to this.

01:08:52.000 Oh, you didn't get it yet?

01:08:53.000 Okay.

01:08:56.000 You got it?

01:08:57.000 There's someone else talking about it.

01:09:00.000 There it is.

01:09:00.000 Okay, here we go.

01:09:01.000 Put them on.

01:09:07.000 No, it's up there.

01:09:09.000 What do you mean?

01:09:10.000 X.com full video?

01:09:12.000 Retry?

01:09:12.000 Yeah, it's up there.

01:09:13.000 Oh, it disappeared?

01:09:14.000 Yeah.

01:09:14.000 Here it is.

01:09:15.000 That's not it.

01:09:16.000 That's not it?

01:09:17.000 Just a picture.

01:09:18.000 Oh, the video's got to be on there.

01:09:22.000 Yeah, you want to give me something.

01:09:23.000 Okay, okay.

01:09:26.000 Is that it?

01:09:27.000 Yeah, here it is.

01:09:29.000 Okay, give me some volume.

01:09:32.000 191. Watch this.

01:09:33.000 Check this out.

01:09:35.000 Oh.

01:09:37.000 Oh my gosh.

01:09:38.000 Bro.

01:09:39.000 Bro.

01:09:41.000 Bro, bro, bro.

01:09:44.000 That's so...

01:09:45.000 You have to understand how crazy that is.

01:09:49.000 That's an insane amount of power.

01:09:52.000 The hardest I've ever kicked it with legs.

01:09:56.000 Kicks are way harder.

01:09:58.000 The hardest I ever kicked it was like 152. And he punching 170?

01:10:02.000 191. 191. 191 with a punch.

01:10:06.000 It's insane.

01:10:08.000 His power is just from God.

01:10:11.000 It's a crazy gift.

01:10:13.000 It's different than everybody's power.

01:10:15.000 Yeah, I've never seen...

01:10:17.000 The kid he beat up, the other guy, Adesanya.

01:10:20.000 Adesanya?

01:10:21.000 Yeah, he put him down.

01:10:22.000 Well, he beat Adesanya in the first fight.

01:10:25.000 Adesanya knocked him out in the second fight in the UFC. No, they didn't fight again.

01:10:30.000 They never fought a third time.

01:10:31.000 They fought before in kickboxing.

01:10:33.000 They fought twice more, twice before that in kickboxing.

01:10:37.000 One time, Israel lost a decision that I think he should have won. 0.99

01:10:41.000 The second time, Pereira knocked him out.

01:10:43.000 And then the third time, Pereira knocked him out in the UFC. And then the fourth time, Izzy knocked him out.

01:10:48.000 Yeah, that's when he did the fell with his son, right?

01:10:51.000 He acted like he fell with his son.

01:10:52.000 Pull the arrows out.

01:10:53.000 Yeah, he went crazy.

01:10:55.000 He went crazy.

01:10:56.000 Yeah, that was awesome.

01:10:57.000 But that's a big fight this weekend.

01:10:59.000 I'm pumped.

01:11:00.000 Uncle Ive is good, man.

01:11:01.000 That guy's really good.

01:11:04.000 Fight Night?

01:11:05.000 How excited you get on Fight Night?

01:11:06.000 Very excited.

01:11:07.000 Have you ever been to one live?

01:11:09.000 I think I've been to one live before.

01:11:11.000 Bro, you should come this weekend.

01:11:12.000 Come on, where is it?

01:11:13.000 Vegas.

01:11:14.000 Come on, let's go. 0.98

01:11:15.000 I'll hook it up.

01:11:16.000 I'll get you tickets.

01:11:17.000 I'm coming to Vegas this weekend.

01:11:18.000 Let's go.

01:11:18.000 I got you hooked up.

01:11:19.000 I got you hooked up.

01:11:20.000 That's it.

01:11:21.000 Thanks, Joe, baby!

01:11:21.000 Let's go.

01:11:21.000 I'll take care of it.

01:11:22.000 I'll text the UFC as soon as we get out of here.

01:11:24.000 Yeah, you'll love it.

01:11:26.000 You'll love it.

01:11:26.000 Live is like nothing else, man.

01:11:28.000 Especially in Vegas.

01:11:30.000 Well, Vegas is another level.

01:11:31.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:32.000 And this is like, the Vegas ones are always huge.

01:11:35.000 And this is a big one.

01:11:36.000 T-Mobile, sold out.

01:11:38.000 You know, world title fight, main event, light heavyweight title.

01:11:41.000 I mean, and the undercard's banging.

01:11:44.000 The undercard's filled with fights.

01:11:46.000 Like, killer fights in the undercard.

01:11:48.000 There's like six or seven fights that I'm like, ooh.

01:11:51.000 Side and seat out, right?

01:11:52.000 Oh, yeah, man.

01:11:53.000 Yeah.

01:11:54.000 Let's go.

01:11:55.000 Yeah, Fight Night in Vegas is amazing.

01:11:57.000 And then they have Slap Fight.

01:11:59.000 Talk about CTESPN. Oh, yeah.

01:12:00.000 Slap Fight is on Friday night.

01:12:04.000 That should be on CTESPN. You should cover Slap Fight.

01:12:08.000 I would love to cover Slap Fight.

01:12:09.000 That shit's hilarious.

01:12:10.000 Bro.

01:12:11.000 They fighting on site.

01:12:13.000 Yeah.

01:12:14.000 Smackdown.

01:12:15.000 Dudes are getting knocked into another dimension with a slap.

01:12:19.000 It's so crazy to watch.

01:12:24.000 I just don't understand why people are signing up for that.

01:12:29.000 Because the thing about fighting is you're trying to not get hit.

01:12:33.000 Like, if the punches are coming, you're trying to turn away.

01:12:36.000 You're trying to move.

01:12:37.000 You're getting your head off center line.

01:12:38.000 If you're slapping, you're 100% going to get hit.

01:12:41.000 You just have to sit there and take it.

01:12:44.000 Yeah, you gotta eat that.

01:12:45.000 Oh, no.

01:12:48.000 And every time, full blast.

01:12:51.000 Every time, you're standing still.

01:12:53.000 Yeah, you're just waiting on him to come.

01:12:55.000 Yeah.

01:12:56.000 That's hilarious.

01:12:57.000 It's so crazy.

01:12:58.000 Dana White keeps trying to get me to come see it.

01:13:00.000 I'm like, okay, I'll go.

01:13:02.000 I'll go to one of these.

01:13:05.000 But it's just so nuts.

01:13:07.000 Nah, that smack is another level.

01:13:09.000 Yeah.

01:13:11.000 Yeah, just get a smack. 1.00

01:13:12.000 Slap knockout. 1.00

01:13:13.000 I'm surprised pro football players haven't signed up for that.

01:13:17.000 Some dudes just want to do something. 0.99

01:13:19.000 Wild fellas that want to do something. 0.99

01:13:24.000 Smack.

01:13:24.000 Just go smack somebody.

01:13:26.000 Smack! 1.00

01:13:28.000 The problem is...

01:13:29.000 That's crazy.

01:13:29.000 What do you do?

01:13:30.000 You flip a coin to see who gets to slap who first?

01:13:33.000 That's the thing.

01:13:35.000 Somebody has to hit you first.

01:13:36.000 That's a huge disadvantage.

01:13:37.000 Because if you get slapped hard first...

01:13:39.000 Knocked out, you ain't going to get the get back.

01:13:40.000 Exactly.

01:13:42.000 I mean, I don't even know how it works.

01:13:45.000 Like, can you get really rocked, and then they'll let you get slapped again?

01:13:49.000 Like, if you get super rocked, like your legs give out, you barely get up.

01:13:53.000 Are you done?

01:13:53.000 If you go down, are you done?

01:13:55.000 Yeah, you've done.

01:13:56.000 What are the rules?

01:13:57.000 Your slap ain't working for shit.

01:13:58.000 Aren't you supposed to hold something in your hand?

01:14:00.000 I have 30 seconds.

01:14:00.000 You have 30 seconds to shake back?

01:14:02.000 That's a long time to recover.

01:14:04.000 30 seconds is a long time to recover.

01:14:07.000 Yeah, that's...

01:14:08.000 Oh, if you fall?

01:14:10.000 Yeah, there are rules.

01:14:11.000 Oh, so if you get knocked down, it's over?

01:14:13.000 Yeah, you smacked out.

01:14:15.000 What's next?

01:14:16.000 Like, when are we gonna have gladiator fights?

01:14:18.000 Well, they already do that in other countries.

01:14:20.000 People put on armor and fight with swords and shit.

01:14:22.000 Kill each other?

01:14:23.000 They don't kill each other, but they beat the fuck out of each other with swords and shields and shit.

01:14:27.000 One dude was beating this dude in the head with a shield.

01:14:29.000 I was like, what?

01:14:30.000 What are we doing?

01:14:32.000 60 seconds to recover.

01:14:33.000 You got a minute to recover?

01:14:35.000 Like a timeout.

01:14:36.000 See, that's the good thing about MMA is that you don't get chances to recover.

01:14:40.000 So you don't get to get knocked out again.

01:14:42.000 Because a lot of these times guys get dropped and then they get a standing A count.

01:14:45.000 Like in boxing, that's particularly dangerous.

01:14:47.000 You get a standing A count.

01:14:48.000 They clean off your gloves.

01:14:49.000 Are you okay?

01:14:50.000 You're like, yeah, come forward.

01:14:51.000 And then you're slowly getting your shit back together.

01:14:54.000 But you're not back yet.

01:14:55.000 You're still...

01:14:56.000 You're just fighting to get back.

01:14:57.000 You're still out of it.

01:14:58.000 You're still out of it.

01:14:59.000 And you're still, like, you don't know exactly what's going on.

01:15:03.000 He's just like, shit, what happened?

01:15:04.000 And then more part of it, just boom!

01:15:07.000 That kitchen sink hit you.

01:15:09.000 Whereas in MMA, the fight would have already been stopped.

01:15:12.000 Yeah, this guy's done.

01:15:13.000 But then the other side of it is in boxing, guys go down, flash knockdown, get back up, they're okay.

01:15:19.000 They brush their gloves off and then they go back to fighting.

01:15:22.000 And they're alright.

01:15:24.000 You know?

01:15:25.000 Do you watch boxing at all?

01:15:27.000 I love boxing.

01:15:28.000 Did you see the Gervonta Davis-Lamont Roach fight?

01:15:31.000 Yeah, that was trash.

01:15:32.000 Well, I thought it was a good fight.

01:15:34.000 Great fight, but I just championed a guy taking a knee, talking about greasing his hair.

01:15:38.000 Yeah, that was crazy.

01:15:39.000 I'm like, yo, how are you just in the middle of the fight just go wipe your face?

01:15:42.000 Also, here's the deal.

01:15:43.000 If you take a knee, that's a knockdown.

01:15:45.000 That's a knockdown.

01:15:46.000 You got hit with a jab.

01:15:47.000 Yeah.

01:15:48.000 You took a knee.

01:15:49.000 And then you walked off.

01:15:50.000 Exactly.

01:15:51.000 That is a knockdown.

01:15:52.000 So I think they're reviewing that right now.

01:15:54.000 Nah, that guy should have lost, maybe.

01:15:56.000 Well, um...

01:15:58.000 I feel like if they do review it and they do judge it as a knockdown, which it was clearly a knockdown to everybody.

01:16:04.000 You take a knee, that's a knockdown.

01:16:05.000 I think they will probably give it to Lamont.

01:16:08.000 This is a very interesting rule.

01:16:09.000 They have a power slap that kind of talks about what you guys were just discussing.

01:16:13.000 Okay, the promoter may, but is not obligated to, incorporate the following rule for any event, for any specific category matches, such as title matches.

01:16:21.000 A participant was the first defender in round one and did not elect such position.

01:16:27.000 And B, there is a KO or TKO finish of such participant in round one.

01:16:31.000 Then, after the referee declares a finish, a clock of two minutes begins.

01:16:36.000 During this time, the defender is given two minutes to recover and be examined by the supervising physician.

01:16:41.000 If the supervising physician in consultation with the referee determines that the defender has established their fitness to continue and is without medical health risk for purposes of delivering one strike to the opposing participant within such two-minute period and not receiving any further strikes as a defender, then the referee will announce the commencement of the redemption round and will instruct the striker to complete one permitted slap of their opponent.

01:17:08.000 If the return strike results in a KO or TKO finish of their opponent, the match is declared a draw.

01:17:14.000 If the return strike has any other result, the match result stands.

01:17:19.000 That's crazy.

01:17:20.000 So you can get KO'd, you get finished, they give you two minutes to come back, and if you could knock that guy out, then it's a draw.

01:17:26.000 They also haven't used the rule yet.

01:17:28.000 So you go knockout for knockout.

01:17:30.000 Boy, that rule looks like it's written by lawyers, doesn't it?

01:17:33.000 Doesn't that rule look written by lawyers?

01:17:34.000 So find out what's happening, because I think they were going to announce something today about Lamont Roach, Gervonta Davis' decision.

01:17:42.000 On the knockdown.

01:17:43.000 It was a very good fight, though.

01:17:45.000 Lamont Roach is very good.

01:17:47.000 I was really impressed.

01:17:49.000 Because Tank is nasty.

01:17:50.000 Tank is so fucking powerful.

01:17:53.000 He's so vicious.

01:17:54.000 His one-punch power at 135 is like nobody else's in the division.

01:17:59.000 The way he starches people is crazy.

01:18:03.000 He gets so much...

01:18:04.000 Torque and power into his punches and he's so fast.

01:18:07.000 He covers ground and his uppercuts, they're just fucking devastating.

01:18:12.000 So like for Lamont Roach, not just to survive, but you know...

01:18:17.000 Do some damage.

01:18:17.000 To do damage and...

01:18:18.000 Put him on a knee.

01:18:19.000 Basically bring it to a draw, which if they do change this because of that knee, it becomes a victory.

01:18:29.000 I think it should be a victory for him.

01:18:31.000 And I think they should do a rematch.

01:18:33.000 100%.

01:18:34.000 Everybody saw it.

01:18:35.000 You can't get around what everybody saw.

01:18:37.000 Look, it wasn't a legit knockdown like he hurt Tank.

01:18:40.000 Tank did have some shit in his eyes.

01:18:42.000 But what are you doing putting shit in your hair when you have a world title fight?

01:18:46.000 That's crazy.

01:18:47.000 And no one want to hear about it in the middle of a fight.

01:18:49.000 No one cares.

01:18:50.000 If a fly fly by, drop the ball, bro.

01:18:53.000 Drop the damn ball. 0.68

01:18:54.000 We don't care if a fly flew by your helmet or your eyes.

01:18:57.000 Yeah, nobody gives a fuck about that.

01:18:58.000 You can't be a championship fighter.

01:19:01.000 Taking a knee and putting on those type of performances.

01:19:04.000 Also, what are they putting in his hair?

01:19:06.000 That when he's sweating, it's dripping into his eyes.

01:19:08.000 Like, what is that shit?

01:19:10.000 Yeah.

01:19:10.000 Bro, shave your head.

01:19:11.000 There's no way, right?

01:19:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:19:12.000 Shave your fucking head.

01:19:13.000 Who cares?

01:19:14.000 Don't be pretty, boy.

01:19:14.000 You better go get this fight.

01:19:16.000 Get those fucking braids out of there. 1.00

01:19:17.000 You don't need those.

01:19:18.000 Yeah.

01:19:19.000 He's a good-looking guy.

01:19:20.000 He doesn't need all that crazy braids and shit.

01:19:22.000 Yeah.

01:19:23.000 It's, uh...

01:19:24.000 It makes a rematch very exciting, though.

01:19:26.000 And I think that's great for Javante because other than Shakur, who's the other major star, and then Lomachenko if he decides to fight again.

01:19:36.000 But other than that, there's not a lot of compelling challenges out there for him.

01:19:41.000 So now this Lamont Roach fight becomes the most compelling fight in the division for him.

01:19:46.000 That would be pretty cool.

01:19:47.000 What?

01:19:48.000 I don't know if this is the official response.

01:19:50.000 This is wild.

01:19:51.000 Is it?

01:19:52.000 What?

01:19:53.000 This was posted a day ago, I guess.

01:19:56.000 During the round in question, the following the commission's request for the replay video, there was a technical issue preventing the commission from receiving it within the allotted time to review.

01:20:05.000 Therefore, the referee's in-ring decision was relied upon and the fight continued.

01:20:10.000 Yeah, I did see that.

01:20:11.000 The instant replay, there was a technical issue.

01:20:14.000 When they went to the corner, right after the knockdown, they tried to go to an instant replay and it wasn't available.

01:20:20.000 And so they said, what do we do here?

01:20:22.000 And the referee wanted to start the fight again. 0.97

01:20:24.000 They let the referee start the fight again. 1.00

01:20:26.000 I thought this was saying they couldn't review this because of...

01:20:30.000 Oh, you mean after?

01:20:32.000 No, no, no.

01:20:32.000 It was in the moment.

01:20:33.000 Only in the moment.

01:20:34.000 They couldn't get a tape, so there's...

01:20:35.000 No, you couldn't do that.

01:20:36.000 That would be ridiculous.

01:20:37.000 Well, we still can't find it.

01:20:38.000 Sorry.

01:20:39.000 It's like Epstein's client list.

01:20:41.000 Oh, okay, I'll find it.

01:20:42.000 Looking for it.

01:20:43.000 Trying to help, guys.

01:20:44.000 Doing our best.

01:20:46.000 Yeah.

01:20:47.000 No, obviously everybody's seen it.

01:20:48.000 We've all seen it online.

01:20:50.000 I saw it during the fight.

01:20:51.000 I didn't even know the fight was going on.

01:20:52.000 My friend Jamar texted me, you watching this Davis fight?

01:20:55.000 I'm like, oh shit, I forgot.

01:20:57.000 And I caught it in the 12th round, then I went back and watched the whole thing the next day.

01:21:01.000 It was an amazing fight.

01:21:03.000 Amazing fight.

01:21:03.000 It was amazing.

01:21:04.000 It was a lot of energy.

01:21:04.000 I feel like people used to tank just knocking people out early in the round.

01:21:08.000 So to see him go to the deep end, 12th round, seeing that both of the guys was damaging each other and putting them in a good fight was pretty...

01:21:16.000 It was a very good fight.

01:21:18.000 Amazing fight.

01:21:19.000 Very competitive fight for a guy who doesn't have competitive fights.

01:21:22.000 Yes.

01:21:23.000 Because Givenchy just steamrolls. 0.98

01:21:24.000 He's undefeated.

01:21:25.000 He's knocking guys out.

01:21:25.000 Steamrolls everybody.

01:21:26.000 And everybody's scared of him.

01:21:28.000 And Lamont was not scared of him.

01:21:30.000 But they have fought in the amateurs before.

01:21:32.000 I think they fought twice in the amateurs.

01:21:35.000 But Lamont's a new star.

01:21:36.000 That guy's super, super legit.

01:21:39.000 Super legit.

01:21:40.000 And very skillful.

01:21:41.000 It wasn't just that, like, you know, like, Gervonta didn't show up or Gervonta wasn't at his best.

01:21:49.000 No, Lamont fought a fantastic fight.

01:21:53.000 You know what I'm excited for, man?

01:21:54.000 Terrence Crawford and Canelo.

01:21:56.000 That's the one.

01:21:58.000 That's a huge fight.

01:22:00.000 That's the one.

01:22:01.000 A lot of people think Terrence is too small.

01:22:04.000 He weighed himself the other day.

01:22:05.000 He was 185 pounds.

01:22:07.000 He just looks scrawny in the ring.

01:22:09.000 Well, he gets down.

01:22:11.000 150?

01:22:12.000 Well, he just won the 154 pound title.

01:22:15.000 And, you know, before that he was fighting at Walter weight, which is 147. But it's not like he doesn't have time to, like, thicken up a little bit.

01:22:23.000 And if he's walking around at 185, that means he probably cuts a considerable amount of weight to get down to 54. And now, but I think he's getting thicker.

01:22:31.000 And he was deadlifting 450 pounds the other day.

01:22:34.000 You like deadlifts?

01:22:35.000 I think they can fuck your back up.

01:22:38.000 Them shits are trash, bro.

01:22:39.000 You do a deadlift, you're just fucking your back up.

01:22:41.000 You can fuck your back up.

01:22:42.000 Yeah, like, it's no, like, I don't know who made up do deadlifts.

01:22:47.000 That's the worst shit you could ever do.

01:22:48.000 Like, for what, though?

01:22:49.000 Like, what is it?

01:22:51.000 You're never gonna do that motion and fight it?

01:22:53.000 And what is it?

01:22:54.000 It's supposed to make your back strong?

01:22:55.000 It's supposed to make your overall chain strong.

01:22:58.000 It's one of the best exercises to make your overall chain strong.

01:23:01.000 So tried.

01:23:02.000 So tried.

01:23:03.000 Because you're picking up the...

01:23:05.000 The bar off the ground, and there's already gravity.

01:23:09.000 Right, and a lot of stress on that lower back.

01:23:11.000 Super stress on your lower back, your knees, you gotta...

01:23:14.000 You know Robert Oberst?

01:23:16.000 You know who he is?

01:23:18.000 He did the podcast once.

01:23:19.000 He's a professional strongman.

01:23:21.000 Like one of the biggest motherfuckers you'll ever see.

01:23:22.000 Like a house.

01:23:23.000 Just like this big.

01:23:24.000 He's like, don't do deadlifts.

01:23:26.000 Never do deadlifts.

01:23:27.000 It's going to ruin your back, your knees, everything.

01:23:29.000 You hurt yourself.

01:23:30.000 There's no position you're going to put yourself in fighting that's going to make you bend over like that.

01:23:35.000 A lot of guys do them, though.

01:23:36.000 It's the worst thing you could ever do.

01:23:38.000 I've heard people say that if you do them correctly, they can decompress your back.

01:23:42.000 And I'm like...

01:23:43.000 You could do a lot more exercises for your back.

01:23:46.000 But I'm like, explain how.

01:23:47.000 Explain how it can ever decompress your back.

01:23:50.000 You're pounding your back.

01:23:51.000 You're picking up weights on the floor.

01:23:52.000 No matter what you do, as you're lifting, even if you're fully extending and stretching your body forward, you're compressing your back when you have that enormous amount of weight.

01:24:03.000 There's no way you're not compressing your back.

01:24:04.000 You've got to compress your back.

01:24:06.000 What about lighter deadlifts?

01:24:07.000 What about deadlifts just like for reps?

01:24:09.000 I'm like, deadlifts is trash, man.

01:24:11.000 You want to do leg exercise, work your hamstring, glutes, and do cap raises or something else.

01:24:15.000 Do you do Nordic curls?

01:24:16.000 Do you ever do those?

01:24:17.000 Nordic curls is the best.

01:24:18.000 You do those?

01:24:18.000 For your hamstrings, yeah.

01:24:19.000 Oh, yeah.

01:24:20.000 Tremendous for your hamstrings.

01:24:20.000 Isolate your hems right away.

01:24:22.000 Yeah.

01:24:23.000 If you want to work your leg and lower back, do those, yeah.

01:24:25.000 The first time I did, I was like, what?

01:24:26.000 I couldn't do one.

01:24:27.000 I was like, this is crazy.

01:24:28.000 Isolate your hamstring right away.

01:24:29.000 There's no cheating.

01:24:30.000 Yeah.

01:24:31.000 No cheating.

01:24:32.000 No cheating.

01:24:33.000 All hamstrings.

01:24:33.000 All hams.

01:24:34.000 Such a great exercise just to develop strength around your knees, too.

01:24:38.000 Yeah, that's isolation.

01:24:39.000 Yeah.

01:24:40.000 For hams.

01:24:40.000 So, when you're in the NFL, what is the strength and conditioning program like for a receiver?

01:24:47.000 Do they tailor your strength and conditioning routines depending upon what position you play?

01:24:55.000 Absolutely.

01:24:55.000 So, for a guy like you, you obviously have to stay fast.

01:24:59.000 You've got to be quick and twitchy.

01:25:01.000 I feel like...

01:25:02.000 Twitchy.

01:25:02.000 Yeah, twitchy meaning you explosive to get out.

01:25:05.000 Yeah, you got to be elusive in your body movement.

01:25:08.000 But you want to have a lot of strength, too.

01:25:10.000 Just enough, because you're going to get hit, pushed around in your shoulders and your legs and your glutes.

01:25:14.000 So what kind of stuff do they have you do?

01:25:16.000 So many launches, single launches, explosive launches when you're driving up, hamstring curls, bench press, dumbbells, single arms, a lot of core rotations.

01:25:27.000 You know what I mean?

01:25:28.000 A lot of single leg calves, a lot of ankle work.

01:25:30.000 Do they have you do plyos?

01:25:32.000 For sure plyos.

01:25:33.000 Single leg jumps, two leg jumps, explosive, sideway, linear jumps.

01:25:38.000 And when they make a program for you, do they lay out the progress they're looking to achieve?

01:25:44.000 How do they do a program for a guy like you?

01:25:47.000 See, the NFL is a team made up of...

01:25:52.000 50 players, 60 players.

01:25:54.000 So sometimes the weight room usually just have usually specific sheets that, you know, guys follow with the training.

01:26:00.000 But the more smarter you are, the more intuitive you are as a player individually, you know, you need to...

01:26:06.000 For me, the little things that made me the difference, the working on little stuff, like your arch.

01:26:12.000 You may not think your arch is an important muscle or how to work the arch.

01:26:15.000 Arch of your foot?

01:26:16.000 Arch of your foot, yeah.

01:26:17.000 Really?

01:26:17.000 Yeah.

01:26:19.000 You know, gripping the towels with your big toe, grabbing the towel, working the arch, making your big toe go over here.

01:26:24.000 Because your arch is, you know, super important, being a receiver.

01:26:28.000 Really?

01:26:28.000 I never thought about that.

01:26:30.000 So you do, like, foot-strengthening exercises.

01:26:32.000 Even your big toe.

01:26:33.000 Actually, you run it in the game, and your big toe just give out.

01:26:36.000 Right.

01:26:36.000 That happens to guys, right?

01:26:38.000 Yeah.

01:26:38.000 Turf toe.

01:26:38.000 Turf toe, exactly.

01:26:40.000 So it's like the little exercise that could preeminate your feet from just being healthy.

01:26:45.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:45.000 Your arch, your big toe.

01:26:47.000 Because that's the first thing that hit the ground.

01:26:49.000 And guys don't really consider these things when they just want to work the big exercise muscles.

01:26:55.000 But it starts from the ground up.

01:26:56.000 Your feet, your arches, and your big toe could be good and strong.

01:27:00.000 It's the first thing that you're going to hit.

01:27:02.000 Nick Curson's a famous strength and conditioning guy in the MMA world.

01:27:06.000 And that was what he told me.

01:27:08.000 He said foot strength is the number one flaw that a lot of people have.

01:27:11.000 Exactly, because they don't feel like...

01:27:13.000 That muscle or that thing that we work out, that thing shows, you know, the big muscles.

01:27:17.000 So it's all about the little stuff that preeminates your success, man.

01:27:21.000 You're a receiver, you know you're going to have to get off the ball.

01:27:23.000 You're going to have to run and cut, stop.

01:27:25.000 So the more important thing, you can get right of your feet.

01:27:27.000 That's going to be the first thing to hit the ground.

01:27:29.000 So can you explain to me what you're doing with your toes and a towel?

01:27:32.000 So let's say if it's a towel, like, you know when you run, you got the ball of your feet.

01:27:35.000 Right.

01:27:36.000 Ball of your feet hit first, and then you grip.

01:27:39.000 Ball of your feet, then you grip the towel.

01:27:41.000 Ball of your feet hit, then grip.

01:27:43.000 So you're working that arch, and you're working on just the grip of your toes.

01:27:46.000 And are you just holding the towel with your hands?

01:27:48.000 Like, how are you doing the towel?

01:27:49.000 You put the towel on the ground.

01:27:50.000 Oh, on the ground.

01:27:51.000 Yeah, just like that.

01:27:52.000 Have you done this, Jamie?

01:27:53.000 Yeah, I do it all the time.

01:27:54.000 You do it all the time?

01:27:55.000 Every day, right?

01:27:55.000 Yeah.

01:27:55.000 How come you never told me?

01:28:00.000 Wow.

01:28:00.000 Yeah, this is the best right there.

01:28:02.000 That work, your arches are your feet.

01:28:04.000 That little exercise right there, Joe, that would make a tremendous difference in your feet, bro.

01:28:09.000 Wow.

01:28:09.000 I'm going to do that tomorrow.

01:28:10.000 How many reps do you do?

01:28:12.000 I feel like you could go two minutes, just burn out.

01:28:14.000 You just do it until you burn out.

01:28:16.000 Yeah, you're going to feel the burn right away.

01:28:18.000 Wow.

01:28:18.000 And then does it suck to walk afterwards?

01:28:20.000 No, I feel really good to walk.

01:28:21.000 You're going to tell the difference between your feet right away.

01:28:23.000 Wow.

01:28:24.000 I jump rope.

01:28:26.000 I feel like that's really good for your feet.

01:28:27.000 Really good, yeah.

01:28:28.000 Yeah.

01:28:29.000 But this is the maintenance of your feet with just a low exercise.

01:28:31.000 Yeah, that seems like a really smart one.

01:28:33.000 Yeah, this is physical therapy, one of the best exercises you could do.

01:28:37.000 What happens when you get too good at the towel?

01:28:39.000 Do you move up to like a rug?

01:28:41.000 Yeah, you go single leg.

01:28:42.000 Now you go single leg or one leg grip.

01:28:44.000 Oh, ooh.

01:28:46.000 So like standing on one leg?

01:28:48.000 And grip, yeah.

01:28:49.000 So you're balancing and then gripping at the same time.

01:28:52.000 You stack it up and you take the balance.

01:28:54.000 You know what I mean?

01:28:55.000 The grips to the balance.

01:28:56.000 Oh, I like it.

01:28:57.000 So now you're active on it while gripping.

01:28:59.000 Ooh, I like it.

01:29:00.000 Yeah.

01:29:03.000 It's all about your wills, man.

01:29:04.000 You know what I just started incorporating into my workouts over the last few months that I never did before is rotational exercises.

01:29:10.000 And I feel like an asshole.

01:29:11.000 I have a reoccurring thing that I got on my lower back that's like...

01:29:17.000 I think it's really...

01:29:19.000 It's a bunch of different things, but I think mostly it's 10 to 9. It's mostly overuse because it would start to hurt and I would just ignore it and keep doing it.

01:29:26.000 I got it from archery where it just started flaring up because it's like...

01:29:30.000 When I'm shooting the bow, the bow is 80 pounds to pull back, and I do it 150 times a day.

01:29:38.000 So that's like 150 rows with 80 pounds.

01:29:43.000 So doing that all the time, my lower back and stabilizing, it started to flare up, and I'm an idiot.

01:29:51.000 So I was like, don't be a pussy. 0.98

01:29:53.000 Just keep going.

01:29:55.000 Power through.

01:29:56.000 And in power through and it got inflamed.

01:29:58.000 And it's taken a few months for it to get better.

01:30:01.000 But one of the best ways it got better was rotational exercises.

01:30:05.000 You know, like with a bar where you like twist it like that.

01:30:10.000 Those twit with cables, like, man.

01:30:12.000 Yeah, that's the best exercises.

01:30:13.000 Oh, it's like that's...

01:30:14.000 Yeah, movements.

01:30:16.000 It works so well with athletics.

01:30:19.000 For me, with martial arts, it works so well.

01:30:21.000 And I'm like, why wasn't I doing that before?

01:30:24.000 Like, I would just do linear stuff, like chin-ups, push-ups, dips, squats, all that other basic shit.

01:30:29.000 But when I started doing twisting things, I'm like, man.

01:30:31.000 And then I feel like I have more power now with things.

01:30:34.000 More range and ability, right?

01:30:36.000 Yes, I have more strength in my lower back.

01:30:38.000 So for kicking...

01:30:39.000 Like, it's everything in there.

01:30:41.000 Like, that ability to whip.

01:30:44.000 And I'm like, why wasn't I doing this forever?

01:30:46.000 It's kind of crazy that it took me getting injured before I started doing it.

01:30:50.000 That's how it always happens.

01:30:52.000 You know what my favorite one is?

01:30:53.000 When you're sitting, like, I sit on a mat with my feet up in the air, and then I take a 50-pound kettlebell, and I keep my feet up.

01:31:01.000 And I rotate sideways.

01:31:02.000 Ooh, that's the one, dude.

01:31:04.000 That's the one right there, yeah.

01:31:04.000 That is the one.

01:31:05.000 Because when you do it like that, it's like, you just feel.

01:31:08.000 I feel good, all your rotators.

01:31:10.000 Yeah, and it warms everything up, and it loosens it, it stretches it a little bit, because when you get to here, you know, you're challenging your range of mobility.

01:31:19.000 And then you get to here and here, you know, it's like, and it's hard to do, so your abs are firing, everything's working.

01:31:26.000 Yeah, we got everything activated, man.

01:31:28.000 You look good at your age, man.

01:31:29.000 Thank you very much.

01:31:30.000 Thank you.

01:31:30.000 I try, I try.

01:31:31.000 I'm trying to keep up.

01:31:32.000 Try to just keep it active.

01:31:35.000 Keep it going.

01:31:37.000 But all those different exercises are huge, and I ignored a lot of them.

01:31:42.000 But that's the thing about getting injured.

01:31:44.000 Sometimes you get injured, you go, okay, why did I get injured?

01:31:46.000 I need to do more preventative stuff.

01:31:49.000 Yeah, like you're doing with your feet, like more of that.

01:31:53.000 So when you do plyometric stuff, do they have you do stuff on like balance balls and shit too?

01:31:59.000 Of course, balance balls, explosive launches, maybe put the track ladders.

01:32:06.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:07.000 Yeah.

01:32:07.000 You know, jumping over those is always a good one for plyo for explosion.

01:32:10.000 Yes.

01:32:11.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:13.000 Yeah.

01:32:14.000 Speed bands.

01:32:15.000 When did players start realizing that that's something to incorporate?

01:32:19.000 Because I would imagine if you go back to the early days, they were probably doing regular weightlifting stuff, right?

01:32:24.000 Exactly.

01:32:25.000 I feel like if you want to be an explosive athlete, you got to get into plyos.

01:32:28.000 If you want to be explosive.

01:32:30.000 Yeah.

01:32:31.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:31.000 Especially if you're a wide receiver or defensive back, guys who got to be athletic and jump high and attack the balls and do different stuff.

01:32:38.000 You know, maybe like an old lineman may not be getting the balls, so they might focus on lifting weights and, you know what I mean, being strong and combative.

01:32:46.000 You know what else I started adding to?

01:32:48.000 Ab wheel to my feet when you do explosive push-ups. 1.00

01:32:52.000 So you explode up, you roll your abs forward on the wheel, and then you come down and catch yourself, and then explode up and roll the wheel forward, and then come down and catch yourself.

01:33:02.000 You clap and catch yourself.

01:33:03.000 I learned that from Artur Bitterbeev, the light heavyweight champion, this crazy dude from Chechnya. 1.00

01:33:09.000 That's explosive push-ups. 1.00

01:33:10.000 Yeah, but with an ab wheel.

01:33:12.000 He does it with an ab wheel.

01:33:13.000 I was like, oh, that's next level.

01:33:16.000 That's next level.

01:33:17.000 There's, like, so many different things you could see, like, really elite, high-level guys do.

01:33:22.000 You're like, oh.

01:33:23.000 I get it.

01:33:27.000 Just mobility drills.

01:33:30.000 Hip exercises, rotating the hips is a big one.

01:33:34.000 What kind of shit do you do for that? 0.53

01:33:35.000 You go single leg.

01:33:36.000 I like to do the single leg and then be on one leg and then rotate your hip like if you was doing the...

01:33:42.000 Full circle of your hip, but do it on one leg so you get the glute burning. 0.83

01:33:47.000 Oh, so you're doing that on one, and you're balancing too.

01:33:49.000 Yeah, so you're on one leg, just try to rotate this hip forward 10 and backwards 10. On one leg, opening the hips is always key. 0.98

01:33:58.000 Laying on the ground, getting this leg to this leg, this leg to this arm, you know, laying on your stomach, rotating your back leg to your back.

01:34:08.000 Staying open.

01:34:09.000 I feel like the older we get, the tighter your muscles get.

01:34:12.000 Make sure you're stretching more than you tighten them up.

01:34:16.000 Keep your muscles long as you get older to keep your muscles soft.

01:34:20.000 Yeah.

01:34:20.000 When I'm getting lazy, I don't stretch either.

01:34:23.000 Gotta stretch.

01:34:23.000 I realize, yeah, that's probably also how I get injured.

01:34:27.000 Do you ever fuck with yoga?

01:34:30.000 Absolutely.

01:34:31.000 Yoga is amazing.

01:34:32.000 Yeah.

01:34:33.000 I love yoga, man.

01:34:34.000 Scratch.

01:34:35.000 You feel like...

01:34:36.000 Once you do yoga, your body feels better overall even once you're done, right?

01:34:40.000 You can feel the difference right away.

01:34:42.000 Yeah, you feel like everything's working together too.

01:34:45.000 Like all the connective areas are getting strengthened.

01:34:47.000 All the balance and all the stuff that keeps your posture in line.

01:34:52.000 Yeah.

01:34:53.000 Health is wealth, man.

01:34:54.000 Anytime, you know, you got to make accountability to be able to...

01:34:58.000 You know, take care of yourself.

01:35:00.000 That's what life's about.

01:35:01.000 You know, exercising, eating healthy.

01:35:03.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:35:04.000 Giving yourself a chance to live a good life.

01:35:06.000 Do they coach in the NFL how to eat?

01:35:08.000 What supplements to take?

01:35:10.000 Do they tell you what to do?

01:35:10.000 I mean, they can't.

01:35:11.000 They will.

01:35:12.000 But it's usually, you know, kind of up to you and yourself as a player.

01:35:15.000 You know, if you want to take care of yourself, they're getting your blood work and got everything right in front of you.

01:35:20.000 So for me, I usually take my blood tests and know what my body digests, what food I need to put in and take.

01:35:26.000 What provides less inflammatory?

01:35:28.000 What's good for me?

01:35:29.000 What's not?

01:35:30.000 So when they take your blood test, do they sit down with you and go over the results and talk to you about what you need?

01:35:36.000 It's got to be for you.

01:35:38.000 You got to take the initiative to go to them.

01:35:40.000 You know what I mean?

01:35:41.000 This is a business at the end of the day.

01:35:43.000 You've got to do what's best for you yourself.

01:35:45.000 For sure, but I would imagine for them, it would be beneficial to them to make their athletes perform at the very best they can.

01:35:51.000 So give them as much information as they could.

01:35:53.000 I would hope so, but using the NFL, they pay you money and it's like...

01:35:57.000 You figured it out.

01:35:58.000 Yeah, some of you now.

01:35:59.000 Yeah.

01:36:00.000 What about saunas and cold plunge?

01:36:03.000 Saunas the best.

01:36:04.000 Everyday cold plunge.

01:36:05.000 Sauna, man, that's healthy living.

01:36:06.000 Yeah.

01:36:07.000 Saunas the best.

01:36:08.000 Flush out, cold tub, filling brand new.

01:36:11.000 Yeah.

01:36:11.000 That's preeminent recovery right there.

01:36:14.000 It's everything, right?

01:36:15.000 Yeah.

01:36:16.000 That's what you live for.

01:36:17.000 The hot steam, cold tub, man, that's the best feeling ever.

01:36:21.000 So what's the next move right now for Antonio Brown?

01:36:24.000 What are we going to do?

01:36:25.000 I feel like, you know, just keep, you know, being myself, giving back to the world.

01:36:29.000 I feel like I want to start a 7-on-7 team, give some local kids in Miami, Tampa, some opportunities to...

01:36:37.000 Travel, you know, play 707 flag football.

01:36:41.000 Obviously, podcast, maybe do more on CTSPN. You know, just be happy and hopefully the Hall of Fame in 2027. Oh, okay, nice.

01:36:51.000 You know, me and Ben Roethlberger are in that class together.

01:36:54.000 Nice.

01:36:55.000 So, that'll be a good opportunity.

01:36:57.000 What do you do with kids?

01:36:59.000 Were you talking about flag football?

01:37:01.000 Yeah, flag football is a big thing right now where you take the kids.

01:37:05.000 Different tournaments all over the world, allowing them to complete, giving them opportunities to live their dreams.

01:37:10.000 Different age groups, you know what I mean?

01:37:12.000 And you're involved in that?

01:37:13.000 Yeah, setting it up now to get our own team.

01:37:15.000 Me and Kodak Black, one of my close friends from Miami, probably started a volleyball league for the women and some flag football for the team. 0.99

01:37:24.000 Oh, that's great.

01:37:26.000 Community activities to help some kids achieve their goals and taking them to different tournaments to be able to compete all over the world.

01:37:35.000 Well, that's cool that you have that focus that you want to like help kids to you know help them You know and also like when they see a guy like you has done it been there done that You know been at the top they could say oh, it's Paul.

01:37:48.000 He's human He's just like me, you know and him talking to me and working with me Maybe I can get something done in this life.

01:37:54.000 I got some new music coming out Actually tomorrow song called click it 41, Cal, Rich, Tata, Jen, Carter.

01:38:05.000 Nice.

01:38:06.000 It's been a blessing, man.

01:38:08.000 Are you working with Kanye anymore?

01:38:09.000 Yeah, I work with him too.

01:38:11.000 I got some cool stuff coming as well.

01:38:13.000 Really?

01:38:13.000 Still working with him?

01:38:14.000 When was the last time you saw him?

01:38:16.000 I saw him in LA a couple weeks ago.

01:38:18.000 He's a wild man.

01:38:19.000 When he showed up at the Grammys with his wife naked?

01:38:22.000 Yeah.

01:38:25.000 Turn around.

01:38:27.000 Okay, bye.

01:38:28.000 And then he leaves.

01:38:29.000 He doesn't even go to the Grammys.

01:38:30.000 He just shows up, walks the red carpet, his wife takes his clothes off, and he goes home.

01:38:34.000 Yeah, he's just out there.

01:38:35.000 Okay, we good.

01:38:39.000 Yeah, he's good, man.

01:38:40.000 We decided about, you know, he brought me this chain with Donda Sports.

01:38:43.000 He bought you that?

01:38:44.000 Yeah.

01:38:45.000 Whoa.

01:38:45.000 Donda Sports.

01:38:46.000 The sports brand that he opened up.

01:38:48.000 That's the GDP of a small island.

01:38:50.000 Yeah.

01:38:52.000 Look at the size of that fucking thing.

01:38:54.000 So we got to get Donda Sports back, you know.

01:38:57.000 Kanye made me president of the Donna Sports.

01:39:00.000 Oh, really?

01:39:01.000 A lot of basketball team we used to have in L.A. A lot of kids came out of it.

01:39:07.000 We plan on getting back to it and doing some other things creatively in the music space.

01:39:13.000 So I'm excited for those announcements coming soon in 2025. Oh, that's cool.

01:39:17.000 So what sports are you getting involved with?

01:39:20.000 Basketball has been a huge sport for Donna Sports.

01:39:23.000 Had a couple of players.

01:39:27.000 So what is he doing?

01:39:28.000 Is he managing them?

01:39:30.000 He had a whole prep school that was allowing the kids to go to school, down to sports, giving them the opportunity to play basketball, taking them to play different games.

01:39:40.000 Oh, okay.

01:39:41.000 I mean, we had Rob Dillingham who used to be in the program who played for the Minnesota Timberwolves, now got drafted, who went to Kentucky University.

01:39:51.000 I think he went to Duke University and came out and went.

01:39:55.000 Oh, that's cool.

01:39:56.000 So he represents them, gives them advice?

01:39:59.000 Not even represent them, just allow them to go to school and play basketball.

01:40:02.000 Oh, just help them?

01:40:03.000 Yeah, just help them to get to the next level.

01:40:05.000 Not even represent them.

01:40:07.000 But also, being under that umbrella is notoriety.

01:40:10.000 Absolutely.

01:40:11.000 Getting them the exposure, the right opportunities to just go to the next level.

01:40:15.000 So is this something Kanye's going to expand to other sports as well?

01:40:18.000 I mean, we was talking about it.

01:40:20.000 They don't really know a lot about sports.

01:40:22.000 That's why he put me on to Justin LaBoya in regards to basketball and other sports athletes.

01:40:28.000 Just give them the opportunity to live out their dreams.

01:40:32.000 That's really cool, man.

01:40:33.000 That's very cool.

01:40:35.000 It's nice that you're interested in doing that, that you want to help young kids achieve their goals.

01:40:40.000 I've been blessed in my life to live a beautiful life, experience in the NFL. That's our jobs.

01:40:48.000 You know, humans, you know, give other people the best experience.

01:40:52.000 You know, give them a chance to do something they may not be able to do in their life.

01:40:55.000 So I'm grateful just to be in that position, you know, to give back.

01:41:00.000 That's a beautiful philosophy.

01:41:01.000 It's a good way to look at life.

01:41:03.000 You know, you're living your life.

01:41:05.000 You're happy.

01:41:05.000 You're also helping people be happy.

01:41:07.000 Yeah.

01:41:09.000 And cracking on people.

01:41:10.000 Yeah.

01:41:10.000 A couple jokes here and there.

01:41:14.000 You write all that shit yourself or do you have anybody help you?

01:41:17.000 I'll be writing it.

01:41:17.000 You write all of it?

01:41:18.000 Yeah.

01:41:19.000 Oh my god, that's amazing.

01:41:20.000 I'll be writing it.

01:41:21.000 Yeah.

01:41:22.000 It's hilarious.

01:41:24.000 Well, the response has been pretty amazing, right?

01:41:26.000 They love it.

01:41:28.000 Smokes and jokes, man.

01:41:29.000 It's funny.

01:41:29.000 I mean, imagine the idea of an ex-football player starting an award show and he gets 200 million views.

01:41:36.000 He has a blessing.

01:41:38.000 I mean, very much so.

01:41:39.000 But it was also because you had laid the groundwork of being funny all the time on Twitter and being that wild follow that people like to go check you out.

01:41:48.000 So when you do something like that award show, everybody's like, yeah, I can't wait.

01:41:51.000 I'm looking forward to it.

01:41:52.000 Bro, I was getting texts all day long, man.

01:41:55.000 That was a big deal.

01:41:56.000 So many people were sending me texts about it.

01:41:57.000 Thank you for participating with it, man.

01:41:59.000 That was awesome, man.

01:42:00.000 That was a big deal.

01:42:01.000 My pleasure.

01:42:02.000 Everybody was excited.

01:42:03.000 I was like, yeah, Joe on it.

01:42:05.000 Let's go.

01:42:05.000 Yeah, everybody was excited.

01:42:07.000 Because, like I said, it's just, it's fun.

01:42:10.000 It's like a thing that wasn't around before, and it's like a sign that everything's getting back to normal, that you can do fun kind of shit like that again.

01:42:19.000 Exactly.

01:42:19.000 We gotta do more.

01:42:20.000 Let's do it better this time.

01:42:21.000 Yeah.

01:42:22.000 Well, I think now everybody is looking forward to the next one.

01:42:25.000 Like, now it's established.

01:42:27.000 You know, when you have the second annual awards, everybody's gonna be very excited about it, because it's...

01:42:33.000 It's a necessary thing.

01:42:35.000 We need more ridiculous shit in this world to take the burden off of a lot of people, just the regular life.

01:42:43.000 You need fun.

01:42:44.000 Yeah, we need an excitement.

01:42:46.000 Yeah, it's valuable.

01:42:47.000 It's not just silly.

01:42:48.000 It's valuable for people's mental health.

01:42:51.000 It brings people joy and happiness.

01:42:54.000 When my friends send me a funny meme and then I send it to them, we're all like...

01:43:00.000 I should make you happy, right?

01:43:01.000 It makes you happy.

01:43:02.000 It makes me happy.

01:43:04.000 It's funny.

01:43:05.000 It's like some of the biggest laughs of my day are memes.

01:43:10.000 And I don't even know...

01:43:11.000 Who's making them?

01:43:12.000 I don't know who's...

01:43:13.000 It's coming out the blue.

01:43:15.000 It's just like the universe is creating.

01:43:17.000 I mean, it's obviously people are doing it, but I don't even know who they are.

01:43:20.000 Sometimes you do.

01:43:21.000 Sometimes a person, like, you know you can give them credit.

01:43:23.000 I'll give them credit, but sometimes, like, I don't know where this came from.

01:43:27.000 It's on 15 different Instagram pages.

01:43:29.000 People just sending it to you like, all right.

01:43:31.000 I was throwing up my stories.

01:43:32.000 Yeah.

01:43:34.000 It's a fun time, man.

01:43:35.000 It's a fun time.

01:43:36.000 I'm glad you're a part of it.

01:43:38.000 Having a guy like you out there, having a good time, cracking jokes, it opens up the door for other people to do the same.

01:43:45.000 Absolutely.

01:43:46.000 Keep it light.

01:43:47.000 Have a good time.

01:43:48.000 Enjoy yourself.

01:43:49.000 I love it.

01:43:51.000 Anything else you want to talk about before we wrap this up?

01:43:55.000 I think we hit it all.

01:43:56.000 We hit it all?

01:43:57.000 Beautiful.

01:43:58.000 Tell everybody how they find you on X, AB. AB84 on X, AB on IG. Antonio Brown to the world.

01:44:07.000 Hall of Fame 2027. Website?

01:44:11.000 AntonioBrown.com.

01:44:14.000 CrashOutBuckets.com.

01:44:16.000 CTSPN.com.

01:44:19.000 All right.

01:44:20.000 That's it.

01:44:20.000 All right, brother.

01:44:21.000 Well, thank you very much for being here.

01:44:22.000 Continue success.

01:44:23.000 I'm a fan.

01:44:24.000 I'm excited.

01:44:25.000 I love you, too.

01:44:26.000 All right.

01:44:27.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 07, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2286 - Antonio Brown

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