Comedian and podcaster Joe Rogan joins Jemele to discuss the return of Jon Stewart to The Daily Show, his new book Unfiltered, and why you should be mad at people who are mad at you.
00:00:31.000We were just singing Jon Stewart's praises before this started, but I'm so happy he's back at The Daily Show, and I'm so happy he makes fun of everything, and I'm so happy he still makes dick jokes.
00:00:57.000Like, let's stop being so fucking ridiculously tribal.
00:01:00.000In the morning meeting, he'll come in, and we're all sitting there, the writers, and he just kind of shuts the door behind him, and we start talking.
00:01:10.000But it's like a conversation with a college professor, but he's in charge.
00:02:45.000And ideas are things that you should consider.
00:02:48.000Ideas are something that you should...
00:02:51.000If it's going to have some sort of a real physical impact on your life and your family and your family's life and people you care about, I understand.
00:02:57.000I understand why you get connected to things like that.
00:02:59.000But for the most part, most of these ideas don't affect you.
00:05:12.000That makes it sound like it's a struggle to create art.
00:05:15.000Yeah, it's the struggle against resistance, which is procrastination, which is this thing that we all do before we actually write, which is so weird.
00:05:25.000When I'm actually locked in and great ideas are coming, it's one of the best feelings in the world.
00:05:30.000It's like somehow or another you're pulling these ideas out of nowhere and then it's your job to take this seed and try to go plant it on stage and try to water it.
00:05:39.000Over the course of many months, it'll become a great bit.
00:05:43.000And they just only come if you sit there.
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00:09:45.000I was working on a bit recently that all of these amazing men, these explorers, these achievers, the idea was, because I found out that Sir Edmund Hillary, Mount Everest's first man to climb Everest, he had like nine kids or something.
00:11:40.000They're not afraid of cars or motor vehicles at this point.
00:11:43.000Well, there's a time between September-ish to December-ish where they're retarded because they're horny.
00:11:50.000Once it starts getting warm out, they start getting goofy.
00:11:53.000And then when you get cold around November, that's when it really kicks in.
00:11:57.000If you're in Pennsylvania or Iowa, oh my god, I visited my friend John in Iowa and I'm driving down the road and every 15 seconds you're slamming on your brakes because something's darting near the road.
00:12:36.000But what scares me is what happened in New Orleans, where they have these roads where only people walk down, and everyone knows it, and this psycho decides to kill a bunch of people.
00:12:48.000It's crazy that you have to think that way.
00:12:50.000But, I mean, there should be some sort of retractable posts that they can pull up.
00:13:57.000And I was like I just would just resign myself to like the thud of it hitting my digestive tract and like feeling like I'm on drama me Just like I've resigned myself.
00:14:09.000I'm like I'm eating pizza fucking Let's just do it.
00:14:13.000Nothing never came right never came ate a whole pizza.
00:14:15.000I was like this the rest of the day I was like this is crazy.
00:14:17.000I'm not even like brisket Sludgy brisket crushes me Terry blacks put you down son I mean I mean I had I was in Houston and Steve Byrne was at the other club.
00:16:22.000So they would take the brisket and they just figured out, like, if you just slowly cook it, you render it down and break down all the toughness of it, and at the end you have this delicious, tender, smoked perfection.
00:19:25.000If you're 47 years old and you decide that you need to change careers and you're going to be a folk singer and you have a family, what are you talking about?
00:19:40.000If you're going to make folk songs, you're going to make them on the two hours you have for yourself on the weekend when everybody else is out of the house.
00:20:59.000It was like you're in a gym and you're sparring with world-class fighters, like world championship caliber fighters that the rest of the world hasn't seen yet.
00:21:08.000You have a bunch of elite fighters and then all of a sudden there's three world champions in this gym like two years later.
00:21:14.000That's what it was like in Boston because there was these guys that were the Steve Sweeney's and the Don Gavins who were as good as anybody that's ever done comedy and no one knew who they were outside of Boston.
00:21:25.000And you get to see them every night just murdering.
00:23:51.000There's some of that, but there's still guys, you know, like Louie who don't do that, and Attell doesn't do that.
00:23:58.000It's like, I get for young guys coming up, it's a very good way to develop an audience.
00:24:02.000Like, there's guys that have a clip, the clip goes viral on TikTok, all of a sudden they're selling out shows everywhere, like a guy like Ralph Barboza.
00:27:06.000I always go back and watch, oh my god, Novak Djokovic's first Grand Slam, when he's got the worst haircut and the baggy shirt, and the backhand was looking different.
00:27:15.000Now, it's just amazing to see how these athletes evolve, and I'm sure it's the same for fighters you mentioned it was.
00:27:31.000Like, there's so many things that are like, like in martial arts, it's a big, like, especially...
00:27:35.000When things go to the ground, a lot of times people don't understand how difficult a specific maneuver is, like how he did that, how he baited him with that, and then you have to, like, there's certain things I watch where I'm like, oh my god, does everybody appreciate this?
00:27:51.000It's a language, and if you don't speak the language, I mean, when I don't speak MMA language, but that's where good commentators come in, oh, they're excited for a reason.
00:28:01.000That was something that we don't see very often, and that helps me.
00:28:04.000I assume that's how it works for non-tennis people when they're watching tennis.
00:28:09.000But I think only a person like you, who is a professional, could appreciate the technique involved and the changing of Djokovic's backstring.
00:29:54.000Doesn't know how he's so successful because he's working with the CIA. CIA's helping him.
00:29:58.000Goes to jail, learns how to read when he's in jail, becomes a lawyer in jail, gets himself off because they tried him on three strikes, but they did it for one incident.
00:31:10.000I think it was Jimmy Connors who said, I didn't lose, I just ran out of time in that match.
00:31:16.000I would have figured it out, but unfortunately he beat me.
00:31:20.000What happened with me, I was trying to be a stand-up comic so badly that I was trying to remove the athletic stigma.
00:31:33.000Even now, you sometimes say tennis and people kind of back up.
00:31:36.000But as I got better at comedy and more confident in my abilities, I said, why am I shying away from the sport that I love and that is such a foundational part of me?
00:31:44.000Isn't that weird that you felt like you had to move away from athletics in order to fit in in comedy?
00:31:50.000That's probably a more succinct way to say it.
00:31:52.000And the new book that's out right now, Lucky Loser, is all about how...
00:31:57.000I'm now embracing this tennis because it gave me all the skills to actually be good in comedy.
00:32:03.000Discipline, realizing, like the tennis player that you were talking about, that if you do put in the work over time, the results will pay off, and you'll see it.
00:33:04.000Congratulations on achieving the most difficult thing humanly possible that everybody admires, right?
00:33:10.000When you meet a couple, and like, I have two friends of mine that have actually been dating since they were like 16 years old, and now they're married with kids in their 40s.
00:33:36.000And I don't think you learn by winning all the time.
00:33:39.000And I don't think you learn if something's easy, which is why really handsome and really beautiful people are often ridiculous in the way they behave.
00:34:18.000It doesn't work with everybody because some people play sports and they come out even cuntier.
00:34:22.000Yeah, they come out more aggressive or more competitive or more psychotic in their pursuits and it just alienates everything else in their life.
00:34:44.000But I think there's something when you put your attention to something and realize you can get better at this thing and you find yourself in that thing and you find your potential in that thing that you focus on.
00:34:54.000It's not necessarily that it has to define you, because oftentimes it does, unfortunately.
00:35:00.000When people are really good at a thing, it becomes the whole essence of who they are as a person.
00:35:06.000It's a valuable tool for elevating your human potential.
00:35:09.000And it's also a way that you can quantify effort versus results.
00:35:15.000And you can do that in sports and games and in chess and art and things that are difficult.
00:35:21.000You can say, I am so much better at playing guitar now because I've been playing three hours a day for six months and look at what I can do now.
00:35:30.000And it teaches you that if there's a thing that you really love and you focus on it, That thing, if someone does it for a living, why can't you?
00:35:40.000Why do I have to be in this fucking bullshit office in this cubicle with these stupid papers that I don't give a shit about that I have to fill out for this company that I don't give a fuck about?
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00:45:03.000Like, he clipped me with a left hook that I didn't see in an exchange, and when you get hit on the jaw, something happens in the jaw, and I don't know what it is with the nerves behind your neck, but it just shuts everything off.
00:45:18.000Like, so it was completely conscious, but my legs just, like, disconnected and went down, but they reconnected right away, and I got up and I was like, oh, no.
00:45:34.000But the feeling that you get when you get hit real hard is real weird.
00:45:39.000It's like nothing works right anymore.
00:45:41.000And you've got to get on your bike and try to move around and get everything working again.
00:45:45.000And it might take 30 seconds before...
00:45:47.000And that's that 30 seconds when he's also trained to kill you.
00:45:50.000Now in the UFC... It's way more accurate because when you get knocked down, they climb on top of you and beat your fucking brains in or strangle you.
00:45:57.000Which is really what's supposed to happen.
00:45:59.000The whole thing of letting someone get up, what you're really doing is giving them a chance to get more damage.
00:46:40.000It's a very dangerous, very scary sport.
00:46:43.000But I think realistically, when someone gets hurt, And someone finishes them off on the ground, that's probably less damage than they would have taken if you gave them a standing eight count, dusted their gloves off, made them move forward, and let them go back again and get really mollywalled.
00:47:01.000You know, because a lot of times, those are where the real bad KOs come from, is when a guy's hurt and then he stands up and...
00:47:08.000The only thing I can even closely compare this to is being in a car accident.
00:48:30.000This is the one, because I can tell by his haircut.
00:48:34.000Pereira, at this time, was the champion, and he was getting revenge on Willness, who had beaten him before, and stopped him with low kicks in one of their fights.
00:49:34.000So this is Pereira's first entrance into the UFC, and I'm a giant fan of kickboxing.
00:49:41.000So I watch Muay Thai, I watch Dutch kickboxing, I watch Glory, I watch everything I can about kickboxing, and I knew this guy was really special.
00:49:49.000So I was completely hyping him up in this first UFC fight.
00:49:57.000He came through in flying colors and he came through with that flying knee and it's it's so nuts the amount of power this guy can generate and With punches and with kicks, but with a flying knee you have so much torque You're literally throwing your body weight up into the air.
00:51:52.000Like John Jones, when he won the light heavyweight title, one of the craziest things that John did, he was 22 years old, and he's fighting Mauricio Shogun Hua, who is a legend.
00:53:32.000So this is, Andrey Arlovsky was actually winning this fight, and he actually was kind of tuning Fedor up, and he was hitting him with some big shots, and he got a little crazy.
00:53:40.000And he leapt in with a flying knee and got flatlined.
00:55:53.000You have a person in front of you that is doing all these things to try to throw you off.
00:55:59.000They're feinting you, they're moving, they're switching stances, they're shooting in for takedowns that they don't want so they can catch you with a punch on the way in.
00:56:06.000There's so many variables you have to think about.
00:56:08.000So it's just like high-level problem solving with dire physical consequences.
00:56:13.000I love sport because it teaches life lessons with very low stakes.
00:56:55.000Long limbs are huge for jiu-jitsu because there's certain things that you'll be able to catch that other people can't catch with shorter limbs, like a Darce choke.
00:57:02.000So a Darce choke is, so say if you come to grab me and you have your head here and your arm wraps around me like this, I can shove my arm under like this.
00:57:15.000Go off the side of your neck and clamp it like this, and now I've got you in a wicked choke.
01:00:17.000So this is a fight that he had against David Avalon, and this is fucked because they stop the motion and they put him back into the same position.
01:00:26.000And when they put him back into the same position, he doesn't let go.
01:00:29.000So he holds on to the heel hook and just wrenches the fucking shit out.
01:02:33.000Yeah, I think all sports at the highest levels, they have to be like that.
01:02:36.000Because you only get so far with genetics and so far with natural speed and endurance.
01:02:41.000There's certain aspects of it that require a careful, considered study.
01:02:45.000And wouldn't you, if you know your opponent is a guy that likes to do the...
01:02:51.000Wouldn't you then in your training work on defending that and also making sure your knee can withstand more of that than normal?
01:02:57.000No, you're not going to be able to do that.
01:02:59.000There's no special knee pill you can take.
01:03:02.000You've got to tap when you get into those positions, and then you've got to make sure that you don't get into those positions, which is the most important thing.
01:03:08.000The tapping must be so humbling as a fighter because you've trained so hard, you want to win so badly, and yet you have to do this thing.
01:04:34.000And it's wild, though, that people might know you.
01:04:38.000If they're just being introduced to you as the commentator for that and maybe don't know the other stuff and What's confusing for sure, but it's also like it's one of the things that I'm most Impressed with by what you do is as someone that has this passion for tennis.
01:06:39.000But it was one of those things, same, that I worked at it, I could never get it right, and eventually other things came more naturally to me.
01:07:30.000Yeah, so, you know, tennis has had this great historical run on elite racquet sports, and then pickleball has been this counter-response to tennis.
01:07:44.000Ball, loud noise, don't really have to move much.
01:10:04.000Well, the difference between running around on ice skates, you're sliding around.
01:10:08.000The fighting is like, yeah, they're fighting, but they're kind of compromised because they can't really like, you know, good skaters can kind of hold.
01:10:13.000It's not like having grip with your shoes and being able to really, you can really hurt people.
01:10:19.000They're beating the shit out of each other.
01:13:35.000If you want a 51st state, it's Greenland.
01:13:37.000Plus, if global warming is real because of all the digging and oil and all that shit, you know, it'd be good to have a cold spot to eventually warm up.
01:13:44.000I just read this crazy book called Power Metals by Vince.
01:14:21.000There's also a lot of stuff in the sky.
01:14:23.000If they can mine asteroids, if they can successfully figure out how to mine asteroids, they can get a lot of precious minerals from asteroids.
01:15:42.000It's most of the cobalts coming from that area.
01:15:44.000And it's also then you go to the actual construction of the phone itself and you see those factories, those Foxconn factories where they have nets around them to keep people from jumping off the roofs.
01:15:56.000And you realize these people are working in these horrific conditions so that you can get an iPhone that costs $13.99 instead of $15.99 or whatever the fuck it would be if it was made in America with people paid a working wage and health care.
01:16:09.000All the stuff you're supposed to get if you're going to be working.
01:16:11.000Especially if you have a company like Apple that's worth more than any corporation ever.
01:16:50.000I would pay more to have my iPhone be made in America by American hands.
01:16:54.000Yeah, we've talked about that, but the problem is the infrastructure that's required to be able to build phones here is a decade away.
01:17:03.000It takes a long time to build the kind of factories that can have the tolerances of these chips.
01:17:08.000They've been doing it in China forever.
01:17:10.000So most of- I mean, I was loading my kids in the car, put my phone on top of my car because I didn't have an extra hand, forget it's there, driving through Pennsylvania.
01:19:34.000I had already had experience with nootropics because there's a company called Neuro One.
01:19:42.000And Bill Romanowski, the football player, developed it because he was having memory problems after all the hits.
01:19:49.000And I was on a radio show in San Francisco, and one of the guys was working out with Bill Romanowski, and he started taking this Neuro One.
01:19:56.000He's like, dude, I'm so much more focused.
01:22:13.000Well, there's different forms of creatine.
01:22:16.000I take it in gummy form, which doesn't seem to bother me at all.
01:22:19.000I've had people that take it like liquid, they pour it into water and they get diarrhea.
01:22:23.000I haven't had that happen, but it's also like there's different kinds of creatine.
01:22:27.000You want really good creatine, like you want a reputable company that makes creatine monohydrate.
01:22:32.000And then there's another thing called HMB that people mix with creatine.
01:22:36.000But creatine, besides being a muscle builder, because it really does enhance your recovery and helps you build muscle, it also is a nootropic.
01:22:53.000You have more water in your body, which is obviously also a good thing, especially for an athlete, and especially for someone who wants to think.
01:23:00.000One of the worst ways to think is if you're dehydrated.
01:23:02.000If you're dehydrated and tired, you're fucked.
01:24:09.000I mean, I'm like, I'd like to think a kind, patient parent on a good night's sleep, but, like, when I get home after a road gig or whatever, even coming up this Sunday, I have an early flight, I'm going to get to Brooklyn, I know it's going to be 1 p.m., and the wife's going to hand me the kids and go, your turn.
01:29:44.000So I'd always thought about getting out, and then the pandemic hit, and then Ron White was the one who talked me into opening up the club.
01:29:50.000We were doing local shows at the Vulcan, and we had talked about maybe opening up a club, like maybe we should buy a club here, and then Ron White got off stage.
01:29:58.000He hadn't been on stage in like seven or eight months, and he murdered.
01:30:02.000He got a standing ovation when he got on stage, and it turned out he had...
01:30:31.000And so, like, with Ron, it's like, so we had Ron, we had Tony Hinchcliffe, and then Tom Segura moved here, and Christina Pazitsky, and then the floodgates opened.
01:31:37.000If I'm not gonna do it, who's gonna do it?
01:31:39.000You know, it's one of those things where if you have an opportunity to do something very unusual and you don't do it, well then, what, does nobody ever do anything unusual?
01:31:47.000Everyone just always either goes to New York or L.A. and that's it forever.
01:31:50.000And it was also, we had so many people, like Brian Simpson, he moved out here early, Derek Post and Hassan Ahmad, they all moved out here early.
01:31:57.000We had so many killers that were already here.
01:32:00.000We were already doing sold-out shows at the Vulcan.
01:33:30.000So, instead of Holtzman going up at 2 o'clock in the morning in the main room when there was no one there and the comics sit in the back of the room and laugh, now he's got sold-out shows and people come to see Holtzman.
01:33:42.000And he's doing different material like every Nightmare.
01:36:42.000Well, this is the role that comedy plays in free speech, because we are really one of the only countries that has the kind of free speech that we have, the Declaration.
01:36:52.000When we have the First Amendment, it talks very specifically, the very first one, about our ability to express ourselves, how important that is.
01:37:05.000Like, if someone's deciding, well, that sets the boundaries for everything else.
01:37:09.000If he didn't do that, if he wasn't doing that in the 50s and the 60s, and getting arrested, like, who knows where free speech would be today?
01:37:23.000Yeah, he was arrested on profanity charges.
01:37:26.000Yeah, they had profanity laws back then, where in public places, you couldn't have...
01:37:32.000And, you know, different places in different districts had different regulations, but I'm sure in San Francisco where he started, he probably could do whatever he wanted, and then, you know, as you travel and you start, and then he became more and more popular.
01:37:54.000So he was arrested at the jazz workshop in San Francisco, which is even crazier, in 1961, where he used the word cocksucker.
01:38:02.000And said that to is a preposition, come is a verb.
01:38:06.000That the sexual context of come was so common that it bore no weight, and that if someone hearing it became upset, he probably can't come.
01:38:14.000Although the jury acquitted him, other law enforcement agencies began monitoring his appearances, resulting in frequent arrests under obscenity charges.
01:40:17.000But it's like, in the context of 1961, what he was doing was, it was akin to a lot of things that were to come, like the anti-war movement, the civil rights movement, all these things were bubbling up about this freedom of exploring ideas and expressing yourself.
01:40:35.000But in comedy, it had just been two Jews walking to a bar.
01:41:59.000It says a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court clarifying the legal definition of obscenity as material that lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
01:42:08.000The ruling was the origin of three-part judicial tests for determining obscene media content that could be banned by government authorities, which is now known as the Miller Test.
01:42:18.000So here's the thing to think about this.
01:42:19.000The Miller Test is actually quite relevant right now.
01:42:28.000Yeah, it is interesting because the thing about this is this is probably all in response to all the anti-war activists and all of the whole hippie, freedom of speech, flower child movement.
01:42:42.000I did a piece for The Daily Show after Biden won and this woman in New Jersey had up 10-15 flags.
01:43:23.000And I spoke to her, and she was very outspoken, and my whole take was like, hey, just maybe let's say legally you can put those flags up, but it's just kind of shitty, right?
01:43:32.000And she was like, fuck you, I'm gonna put my flags up.
01:43:35.000But interesting when obscenity mixes in with school, kid.
01:44:04.000They were living in Florida at the time, and this is during 2016, and my mom was complaining, every time I put my Hillary Clinton sign, someone takes it down.
01:44:25.000Well, I was just going to say, I don't like when a kid is wearing a Dolphins hat, or a Yankees hat, because I'm like, We, as adults, have put that on the kid.
01:44:34.000Well, maybe the kid is just a fan of the sport, though.
01:44:37.000It's possible, but Dad probably made him do it.
01:46:48.000Okay, the flag was originally used during the American Revolutionary War, flown by George Washington's cruisers, and is associated with the early quest for American independence.
01:46:56.000It's since been adopted by a different group, one that doesn't represent the city's values, so we made the decision to swap it with an American flag.
01:47:03.000Well, first of all, you probably should have the American flag there anyway.
01:47:49.000Alito wrote, my wife was solely responsible for having flagpoles put up at our residence and our vacation home and has flown a wide variety of flags over the air.
01:48:22.000We love telling people what we believe.
01:48:25.000And it's very important that we feel like we have beliefs.
01:48:30.000And it's when we start sharing them that...
01:48:34.000Well, you find out other people don't agree.
01:48:36.000You find out other people might not agree with you.
01:48:38.000And this gets back to grit and toughness.
01:48:41.000Well, this also gets back to the importance of your show, The Daily Show.
01:48:45.000Because The Daily Show, especially under the tutelage of Jon Stewart when he's running the helm, it's so balanced at pointing out ridiculous shit all over the place.
01:49:10.000And I think we benefit, man, so many, I'll take, when I host, so many questions, I'll take questions from the audience, and so many people go like, Michael, how do you hold yourself to journalistic integrity when you, and I go, what?
01:51:48.000I think they'll see through it if they feel like it's just, you're truly trying to trick them into a message.
01:51:52.000If your real goal is to entertain and laugh, that, yeah, that's, you know, I heard, I was researching sauna stuff a lot, because I was building this sauna last summer, and I read that in Finnish culture, a lot of the politicians won't even start negotiating or talking until they're like fucking scorched in the sauna.
01:52:14.000And I thought that was really interesting, because comedy, I don't know how truthful it is, but I know there is a lot of pictures of...
01:53:47.000If I do three cycles, whatever it is, you end with cold plunge.
01:53:49.000Because you want your body to fight to warm it back up.
01:53:52.000So you're just shocking the shit out of your system.
01:53:55.000But the Finnish studies that have showed...
01:53:59.000The more people do it, the more effective it is in terms of what they studied was they found that when people over the course of 20 years use the sauna four times a week, they had a 40% decrease in all-cause mortality.
01:54:14.000Because your body is becoming far more resilient and you're also developing all these heat shock proteins and eliminating inflammation, clearing out your system, and then you're rehydrating afterwards.
01:55:33.000A long drink, iconic Finnish gin mixed drink that's basically a Tom Collins in a can, but way better because it's being sipped in a sauna with newfound sauna friends.
01:56:03.000My wife and I, when we do a sauna, you know, there's always stuff you got to talk about with the family, logistics, there's always things to argue about, but we'll go in there and we both start sweating and then it's kind of just like eases the tone, eases the conversation.
02:00:27.000And they also have these coolers that you can plug in, and you could do, like, if you have, like, one of those big Yeti coolers, you can climb in that, and you'll put a hose in there and a cooler, and it'll bring that down to, like, 40 degrees.
02:00:41.000And you can just get in, like, a Yeti cooler.
02:04:50.000Blood sugar's dropping, I have water, but it's just like, I'm in it, I'm doing the difficult thing, and then you get to this cooler, and it's like, from this Appalachian Trail Club, and it's just like gummy bears in there.
02:06:09.000With the survival camp with him and a bunch of other people.
02:06:12.000And it was just like, one of the things, one of the conclusions I and we came to while we were up in the Bitterroot Mountains of Idaho was at least once a year.
02:06:22.000We all need to be doing something where we are embedded with nature.
02:06:26.000And this might sound silly to somebody who goes hunting or somebody who's already doing this, but if you're living a city life, going to the park is not really experiencing nature.
02:06:58.000Turns out there's a lot of real evidence that Lyme disease was...
02:07:02.000It was weaponized and that it leaked out of a lab and it came out of a lab called Plum Island, which was close to Lyme, Connecticut.
02:07:11.000And RFK Jr. firmly believes that this was a weapons program.
02:07:15.000And what they were going to do is develop...
02:07:18.000These fleas and ticks with a disease that spreads rapidly, wipes out the medical system of a community, so you could dump them from a plane.
02:07:27.000Everybody gets infected, overwhelms their medical system, and then they're more vulnerable if you want to attack them.
02:07:34.000That just doesn't seem very thought through, though.
02:07:37.000Well, there's some less thought through ones.
02:07:39.000There's one that they were developing at one point in time.
02:07:42.000I don't know where they got with it, but there was talk of them developing a bomb that they would detonate over cities that would blind everybody.
02:09:47.000And if we all give in to our god AI, we'll be fine.
02:09:50.000We all just need to submit to the chip and become a part of the hive mind, and everyone's going to read each other's minds, and there'll be no more secrets, and there'll be no more violence.
02:10:00.000They really want us to do AI. Oh, yeah.
02:10:23.000I have an iPhone and I have a Galaxy phone.
02:10:25.000And what I really like about the Galaxy phone is if I use Samsung's browser, I can go on websites and it gives me a summary.
02:10:32.000So instead of like reading this long-winded Tell me what you figured out right and then I can get a summary and then I get in oh They've realized that earth is actually blah blah blah blah right oh, okay cool It's like quicker right and then it also does a lot of things it transcribes things it translates things in other languages Translates it directly into your ear if you have the galaxy earbuds pretty fucking crazy.
02:10:56.000Yeah, it's wild shit, man And this is just the beginning of this stuff.
02:11:00.000Essentially, when you have ChatGPT or Grok on your phone, you have access to the most insane amount of answering power that a human being's ever experienced.
02:11:13.000We could ask you questions about what was the reason why Columbus...
02:11:17.000And then it'll give you a fucking historical, detailed 5,000-word essay on what went down.
02:13:35.000So much of what social media is is bots.
02:13:38.000I don't think people even really truly understand it.
02:13:40.000We've covered it many times before, but there was an FBI, a former FBI agent who examined Twitter interactions, and he estimated as much as 80% of it is bots.
02:13:57.000Because if you're an out-of-state actor, if you're a state actor from another country, you're from China, Russia, and you're involved in misinformation campaigns, you're going to be well-sourced.
02:15:49.000You look at the images, you're like, oh, this isn't a real person.
02:15:52.000They have the same smile in every picture, and they're all in different places, and people are contacting them and DMing them, and they're probably responding and probably telling you about their grandma's sick and got some money.
02:17:02.000She posts tweets that are, you know, talking shit, jokes, memes and stuff, but then there's a bunch of pictures of this, like, fake person.
02:17:11.000It is weird, man, and it's gonna get weirder, and you're gonna have AI presidential candidates.
02:17:17.000AI's gonna tell you that we can solve all the world's problems if we just eliminate human interaction and just let this brilliant AI govern everything and do it in a much more equitable manner.
02:17:32.000I don't even know the language to help my kids figure this shit out.
02:17:38.000Right, because the language hasn't even really been spoken yet.
02:17:41.000I mean, I love to advocate for media literacy, push for that, teaching all of us what a more reputable website is or a news source, but that just feels cute compared to what the language of an AI is.
02:18:20.000Mark Andreessen, and I've said this before, I apologize, but Mark Andreessen had a quote about...
02:18:27.000An equation that quantum computing was able to solve that if you took the entire universe, every molecule, every atom in the universe, and you converted that into a supercomputer, the entire universe would die of heat death before it could solve this problem.
02:18:45.000And quantum computing solved it in minutes.
02:18:48.000The only thing that makes sense to them is that quantum computing is somehow or another tapping into the multiverse.
02:18:55.000And it's solving this equation using multiple universes and the information available in multiple universes simultaneously.
02:19:10.000And this is just the version of it that we have in 2025. That we have right now.
02:19:13.000And so this is an actual thing that's happened.
02:19:17.000And so most people aren't even aware what quantum computing means.
02:19:21.000So once this becomes not just one of these, but hundreds of these, and then they're scalable and they're attached to nuclear reactors, which is what they're proposing, they're gonna have their own nuclear reactors, multiple nuclear reactors, as power sources, because these things require insane amounts of power to run, then the quantum computing, once it becomes sentient, is gonna develop a much better version of itself.
02:19:53.000That's why all this shit feels so intimidating, because I can never wrap my head around that, but maybe we should be learning real skills and traits.
02:20:05.000You know, that's really what's happening is we're giving birth to a digital life form that's far superior and doesn't have all the requirements that we have and also doesn't have all the flaws that we have.
02:20:43.000If you think the Industrial Revolution, comparatively, if you look at the history of the human race, you go from Stone Age people to Bronze Age, you go through all the different wars, all the different...
02:20:54.000And then in the last 200 years, everything changes radically.
02:22:51.000I had a rat problem in my house once when I lived in Encino and I set a rat trap in my garage and I killed this big fat rat and I was tired.
02:23:01.000I was like, I don't feel like cleaning this fucking rat right now.
02:25:04.000This is in the 90s, before cell phones.
02:25:07.000And I went to a payphone to make a phone call, and I was watching the rats while my car was filling up with gas, jumping on the wheel, climbing into the wheel wells.
02:25:35.000One of the things they show in this documentary is when they put poison in these areas where these rats are, they send some young, stupid rat to go test it.
02:28:38.000You know, like, who the fuck wanted to live in the cities in, like, 1700s?
02:28:42.000Dude, and, like, there was just, like, a trough for sewage, and then, like, people would die of the plague, and they would just throw them in the street.
02:32:36.000The one guy on my street that doesn't do a good job with the trash, it gets knocked over, the wind blows it, the rest of the street picks it up.
02:32:44.000That's the shit that as you get older, the city starts to fuck you up.
02:35:34.000This is the issue with AI. I try not to even, but it's contradicting itself.
02:35:38.000I was reading a thing where a professor was talking about the issues that he's having, grading papers and accusing people of using AI, and then it's like, it's just opened up this whole door.
02:35:49.000That they don't know exactly how to deal with.
02:35:52.000Because you could get AI and write something, and then you could write something similar.
02:35:56.000You just kind of twist it around a little bit like a joke thief would do.
02:35:59.000And then you're basically using AI to write your papers.
02:36:02.000But I think AI will sell that professor AI detection software.
02:36:07.000Yeah, but if you do a good job of spinning the words around a little bit.
02:36:11.000Especially if you're dealing with historical facts or something that's true.
02:36:36.000The thing is, it's like, if you're a student, though, if you're really trying to get the most out of your education, it's like, what are you trying to do?
02:36:43.000Are you trying to get good grades or are you really trying to get educated?
02:36:46.000If you're trying to get educated, don't cheat.
02:36:50.000Actually absorb the information and learn.
02:36:52.000But if you're not really into that subject, and that's not really your thing, and you really want to get a degree in this, but you have to take a course in that, like...
02:36:59.000And you could, like, spend an hour working on something instead of 16 hours.
02:37:05.000Yeah, or if you want to be a skateboarder and you've got a halfpipe outside, have AI do the term paper and go fucking...
02:37:11.000Yeah, you don't have to read that fucking giant 1,400-page book.
02:37:15.000Well, this is also a bigger question about our education and public schools.
02:37:21.000Dude, you're going to be in the matrix.
02:37:44.000The change of 1925 to 2025 is pretty extraordinary.
02:37:49.000It's going to be nothing compared to the change that we experienced by 2125. Do you think humans will always elevate themselves and speak to a crowd for laughs?
02:38:03.000That might be the only thing we have left.
02:38:05.000Because they've always said it's prostitution in common.
02:38:33.000And we might be giving birth to this obsolete thing willingly, signing up for AI. So if we become obsolete, then that means the machines will have to also figure out how to provide energy to itself.