Comedian and actor Joe Rogan joins Jemele to discuss his life and career. They talk about how he got into stand-up comedy, what it's like to grow up in a family with a big brother, and how to deal with the pressures of being a comedian.
00:05:38.000I didn't know I wanted to do this because this wasn't a thing, you know, but once I figured it out, I was like, oh, this is what I want to do.
00:05:50.000It's crazy watching you operate in the UFC and seeing that mechanism and to think when you started that?
00:05:57.000Like how far that path with the UFC has been for you?
00:06:01.000Oh, for me it was 97. I know, but walking in through the other day and I was like, oh, this has been Joe's life for fucking 26 years.
00:06:08.000Well, you know, if you're a person who's a martial artist and you're a fan of martial arts, if you get a job to do that like if you get a job to talk about martial arts and to express your love for it and your appreciation for the athletes appreciation for the fighters and what they have to go through to get to where they're at and the magnitude of their accomplishments and to put words to that like to do that to be able to do that for a living that's an honor that's how i feel oh yeah it's like it's an honor it's an honor and
00:06:39.000i feel like i do a good job at it and so and i like doing it and i'm super passionate about it and i don't do it Because it's a job.
00:07:14.000When you think about like, do you think about like finding the friends I did later in life, you know, like at like 37 or 38 when I started meeting all you guys and hanging out with you guys?
00:07:24.000And then, you know, being, getting into comedy at the time I did.
00:07:29.000Like, we got into comedy when no one, it wasn't a job.
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00:11:06.000And my stand-ups kind of stalled out because I'm doing this TV show.
00:11:09.000And again, it's coming from someone who was there.
00:11:13.000And I'm telling you that if you're making millions and you still feel that way, versus if you're making thousands and you still feel that way, you got to trust me.
00:11:21.000There's another way to get through this.
00:12:34.000I was pretty plugged into the idea that the internet was something that people were finding stuff that just wasn't available anywhere else.
00:12:42.000I got all these like crazy lectures, these Alan Watts lectures that I downloaded.
00:13:02.000And so I would download all these Terrence McKenna lectures and all these Timothy Leary, all these, like, fascinating conversations that I would download.
00:17:06.000This fucking stupid game that people play back and forth with, you know, who loves war, who hates war, who loves censorship, who hate censorship.
00:17:14.000It's a political beach ball that they tossed around at a concert to keep people occupied.
00:18:11.000Find owners of radio station licenses that carried the Howard Stern show.
00:18:17.000A total of 2.5 million for content and considered to be indecent.
00:18:21.000Indecent. So all the stuff that we do on podcasts right now, we would 100% have been fined.
00:18:28.000100%. I would have been off the air a long time ago.
00:18:30.000It was real censorship, but it was just done under the guise of broadcast...
00:18:36.000The idea is like if you're going to broadcast something on a major network, like NBC, CBS, they have rules to language and what you're allowed to show, which is kind of crazy.
00:20:07.000Like, there was a video I was cutting to promote my tour, whatever, and it's me on a, or the special, and it's me on a boat, and there's this page I'm really obsessed with.
00:20:20.000Joe is so addictive because it's and it's just it's all AI and I think they're promoting a crypto coin of course and I was like and I didn't like to edit so I go hey put fat Edward summer play that song and it's fucking so much funnier Joe with it's so much funnier with me shirtless on a boat but these guys are great but my wife saw it she was like that's offensive I was like no I was like she's right Yeah, and then I sent it to Tommy.
00:21:59.000Oh, my YouTube algorithm's all history.
00:22:01.000A lot of my YouTube algorithm lately has been, like, watching people build things.
00:22:07.000I love, like, cabinet makers and carpenters, or there's this one guy who makes these specialized desks that have, like, secret drawers and shit.
00:23:01.000in uh at the super bowl and i was like and i was like i had to be real because i'm a golfer i was like i follow you for your swing you have a great swing right but then you know what's crazy about page she can't uh snap her fingers or whistle uh how'd you find that out because we were playing a game like weird things about us and she was like i can't i can't snap my fingers and i watched her and she went like this she was like And I go, and she goes, I can't whistle, and she starts going, how could you not snap your fingers?
00:25:03.000Think about all our friends, all our female comedians that have stalkers.
00:25:06.000I mean, like, it's so, you work your ass off as a comic, you happen to be pretty, you start killing it, and then all the fucking psychos come out of the woodwork.
00:25:16.000And you don't have any money, so, you know, probably live in a place that's easy to get to.
00:25:26.000There's a lot of fucking, well, we need better mental health care in this fucking country.
00:25:32.000And there's a lot of people out there that are out of their fucking mind.
00:25:36.000And if no one's paying attention to them or checking in on them, like imagine your average guy who loses his fucking mind and you're a 40-year-old guy who works at a gas station.
00:25:47.000You've been working out of that gas station for 20 years and no one's paying attention.
00:25:50.000And you're just slowly losing your fucking mind.
00:25:55.000And, you know, you think Jared Lido is Satan.
00:25:58.000And, you know, you've decided that, like, someone's sending you code on television.
00:26:04.000And then you lock on to some female comedian.
00:27:32.000But I'm sitting there going like, this is, I mean, and this is going to be slanderous a little bit, you know, considering difference of time of where they were, but like, it's like having dinner with Ernest Hemingway.
00:27:42.000He's created some of the greatest content out there.
00:27:45.000Yellowstone? You can't compare him to Ernest Hemingway because Ernest Hamouye is dead and a legend.
00:29:38.000A familiar is a human that the vampires use to get close to humans, and they promise the human that one day he'll have eternal life and he'll be one of them.
00:29:49.000So the vampire goes and sets up people for the vampire familiar, sets people up to be killed by the vampires.
00:32:25.000They all involved the end of civilization.
00:32:27.000If you want to win an Oscar, you have to be...
00:32:30.000trans lives matter all the way like what do you what do you do to win an Oscar today like you have to have something that's got some meaning to it other than just being a good movie right like there's this got to be some social justice aspect to it wasn't there like something where they were talking about god damn it i can't remember what the article was about but it was about requirements for a film to win an Oscar today,
00:33:58.000Some stories take place in Egypt and they involve Africans, okay?
00:34:01.000It's like there's plenty of room for every kind of fucking story, but if you only want like a specific type of story to win an Academy Award, you don't get the godfather.
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00:38:02.000Shawshank, Pulp Fiction, Quiz Show was fucking great.
00:38:07.000Yeah. By the way, that was a real thing.
00:38:10.000Yeah. Yeah, they really fucking rigged a quiz show.
00:38:13.000That's why there's all sorts of rules if you're running a game show, because I was on a game show, Fear Factor.
00:38:19.000It was my best way to get people away from me if they asked me, how do we get on Fear Factor?
00:38:25.000I go, if you want to get on, you can't even talk to me.
00:38:27.000Because if you talk to me, then I'll have previously known you, then it could be seen that I helped you get on the show, so I can't talk to you.
00:38:38.000Sorry. Did they have someone like really judging the horse sperm going like we got to like an official officiating it because it was prize money?
00:38:52.000Meaning, like, the quiz show was all about them breaking the rules.
00:38:55.000Right. And you had to have someone, a standards and practice guy on your team, making sure the game was fair for everyone, correct?
00:39:01.000Yeah, I think there was something like that.
00:39:03.000I think, I guess the network just did that.
00:39:06.000I think we kind of ran the idea, or they ran the ideas by the network, and the network decided, you know, whether or not this was fair or what, what have you.
00:40:59.000A lottery winner had been one of a Bulger's brilliant schemes to launder his drug extortion loan sharking money back in the summer, which makes sense, right?
00:41:06.000What better way to, why do you have a Cadillac?
00:41:14.000So millions lottery ticket have been purchased at the South Boston Liquor Mart by Michael Linsky, who was the brother of a bulger underling named Patrick Linsky.
00:41:26.000The FBI learned that once Whitey heard about the jackpot, he ordered the real winner to sign the ticket over with Whitey and two associates paying $2.3 million in cash for 50% of the winnings.
00:41:36.000Bulger himself paid Linsky $700,000, although Linsky lost money in the deal.
00:41:43.000He came down to selling the ticket or risking his life.
00:41:46.000Kevin Weeks, whose name also appeared in the winning lottery, the winning ticket, later claimed that Linsky purchased a large batch of tickets to hand out as Christmas gifts and promised to split any winnings with Bulger in weeks.
00:43:22.000He's put on like 30 pounds of muscle and he's seen way too much.
00:43:28.000He was telling me stories about fights that he used to get into, in the jail where he'd beat some guy half to death with a broom handle and that you're fighting for your life in there.
00:43:39.000It's like every day you're fighting for it.
00:46:09.000So I probably met him first when I was like 16 and then I met him again when I was 21. It was somewhere around that, 20, 21, because that's when I stopped fighting.
00:46:21.000And it was like right around the same time where I knew Richie would stop fighting.
00:46:27.000There was a guy who was murdered and they broke every bone in his body with a hammer and they kept injecting him with cocaine to keep him alive.
00:50:14.000It's an engineering team, and they have to figure out a way to build a concrete sled that makes it down a mountain with all the team members on it and stops within the right area.
00:54:47.000Yeah, we were trying to decide where the tonsils were, and you were explaining the tonsils are actually on the side, and your wife was calling it a goozle.
00:57:59.000Luke Rockhold, former UFC champion, had a post that he did about his nose recently, where they were, like, going through his nose with one of those cameras.
00:58:10.000Yeah. And so you could see, like, what's in there.
01:00:08.000But my doctor, he just wanted me to take these pills.
01:00:11.000I think it's that, you know, you were talking to me about statins for a while, and you were saying that, I don't know, you were saying, or whatever I read was that it, these companies are getting, these doctors getting paid out to get people on statins.
01:00:24.000The companies are saying, you know, get people on statins, we'll pay you out, you know.
01:00:28.000Doctors get a variety of rewards I'm finding out.
01:00:31.000They get a variety of rewards dependent upon how many people in their practice get vaccinated.
01:00:36.000And if they lose a certain percentage, if they, like, have less than a certain percentage, then they don't get payouts.
01:00:42.000It's, there's some weird shit that's involved in medicine.
01:00:47.000That's financial incentives that don't necessarily align up with, you know, your best health.
01:00:53.000And I think that doctors profit off of providing people with pain pills, especially when you have a legitimate reason to want to take pain pills.
01:01:03.000But I really don't think you should take them.
01:01:25.000It's, it's, I can tell you the moment it happened was we had to go to dinner with my wife's friends and I didn't want to go and we weren't drinking.
01:01:34.000And I remember thinking, I wonder if I double up on my pain pills.
01:04:34.000I don't know what the cause of death is, but I know that benzos is another drug that does that when you get off of it, you can die.
01:04:42.000Like, it's one of those things, if you just cold turkey benzos, if you're popping Xanax all day long and you're like, I'm done, like, you can die.
01:04:49.000It's crazy how clean life is when you're not partying.
01:06:55.000I tell you what the game changer for me and working out, and I think that, you know, I never understood, uh, Like guys like Cam or David Goggins, and then they pushed themselves so hard.
01:07:07.000And we did that bench press competition, I realized most of the time when everyone works, the regular person works out, they just want to get through it and be done with it.
01:07:15.000They're like, I know, I cheated a little bit, fuck it, that was 12. But when you're training for something, and this must be like this with mixed martial artists and with all those motherfuckers, You're training your body for an actual event to protect yourself from other men.
01:07:30.000Yeah. And I was like, and when I had a goal in mind, I was like, oh, this is different.
01:07:35.000Like, I'm doing everything he's telling me to do, and I'm doing it the right way, and I'm doing it to, like, failure.
01:07:41.000Because I'm trained, if I know that if I do that, then when I get to the day where I do the bench, I can then complete the mission I'm set out to do.
01:10:21.000These elk are in, like, who knows how many generations, with no wolves.
01:10:26.000So the United States had wolves all throughout the West, and then they eradicated them because they fucking kill everything, because they kill livestock, they kill horses, they pack up, they get big, they get big packs, and then they devastate livestock, sheep herders, cattle.
01:18:42.000Interesting. I remember, I said the other day on Instagram, I had my hose all wrapped up.
01:18:49.000And I was like, I don't know if this is because I'm from Florida, but I never put my hand into a hose bucket without kicking it a couple times.
01:18:55.000When you say I got my hose all wrapped up, I thought you had your ladies making money.
01:21:08.000So I have to keep bringing him to the fucking vet.
01:21:10.000I brought him to the vet like at least three times.
01:21:13.000And one time I had to bring him twice because he got to, he had been bit by rattlesnakes so many times that he had developed some sort of an immunity.
01:21:21.000So I brought him the first time and we're all, we're at the vet.
01:21:31.000He would like jump on the walls to try to get the lizards that were crawling on the walls.
01:21:35.000He would leap into the air to try to get these lizards.
01:21:38.000So I brought him to the vet, and the vet's like, I don't see a puncture mark, and he's not swelling, so I wouldn't worry about it.
01:21:45.000And I'm like, wow, how the fuck did you kill that snake and not get bit?
01:21:49.000And then I brought him back to the house.
01:21:51.000His face immediately swole back up again.
01:21:55.000So then I had to bring him back to the vet, and the vet's like, he's been stung, he's been bit so many times that he probably has some sort of an immunity.
01:22:41.000And I think they got out and they had to send someone in the house to, I can't remember exactly, but there was an earthquake and he had like a cobra.
01:24:26.000Put trees up everywhere and they just let shit loose and watch.
01:24:28.000Yeah. Then I was like, that's so fucked up.
01:24:31.000It's like, and then I started thinking, like, what's wrong with you?
01:24:33.000It's like if I started thinking about me going, like, I didn't like me.
01:24:37.000Like, imagine taking someone, one of your friends over your house and you have a murder sanctuary in the center of, centerpiece of your home.
01:24:45.000Oh. The atrium of your home is just like you watch animals just get slaughtered.
01:24:49.000They have no chance of escape, unlike the wild.
01:24:52.000Oh. In the wild, the rabbit can get away.
01:28:21.000Prohibit intentionally killing an animal.
01:28:24.000So how can you have a law that allows for killing a fur-bearing mammal that is injuring property at any time and any manner, but also have a law that prohibits...
01:29:07.000The key difference lies in the intent and manner of killing.
01:29:10.000Killing an opossum that is causing damage to property is one thing, but torturing or inflicting unnecessary suffering is a different manner.
01:29:28.000Another case, father and son were arrested for allegedly killing an opossum, but the arrests were later deemed unlawful, and the city settled a lawsuit with the family for $400,000.
01:29:39.000Okay. Consider contacting your professional pest control operator or wildlife removal service.
01:29:49.000Yeah, I mean, I'm not too worried about possums.
01:31:10.000I set 85 yards is a distance I would never shoot an animal at, and if I could be super accurate at 85 yards, when an animal's at 50 yards, it feels to me like a chip shot, like I can just nail it, because I'm always shooting long distances.
01:31:24.000So at a long distance, any little deviation or torque of your hand, it can make a big difference in how the arrow goes off.
01:31:34.000And at 70 yards, it might be four or five, six inches to the left, to the right, up, down.
01:32:19.000And, anyway, John has this amazing setup in Iowa, and you go up in these tree stands, and you have to, like, buckle yourself in with, like, a safety wire or a safety rope.
01:32:28.000And, you know, you're sitting there, like, all day.
01:32:39.000You're sitting there freezing your fucking dick off.
01:32:42.000And sometimes you have these giant suits that you put over your whole body and zip up, like you're a giant burrito of fur, almost like a sleeping bag.
01:32:50.000And you're sober and you're not doing anything but just waiting.
01:33:05.000Guys even wear these things called Walker Game Ears.
01:33:08.000And Walker Game Ears, it's almost like a hearing aid, and you put them in, and you crank it up, and you can hear things like way amplified.
01:33:18.000There's certain headphones you wear, if you go to a gun range, that they tune out any sound that's over a certain pitch, like a certain volume, but amplify other sounds.
01:33:34.000So you can hear people talking from way away.
01:33:37.000Really? Yeah, way stronger ability to hear.
01:33:40.000But then the gun, it cuts out the sound when it gets to a dangerous...
01:33:44.000So every gun is like, tak, tak, tak, tak.
01:33:58.000You have to pull them out and talk to people.
01:34:00.000These you can, so these guys wear things like that.
01:34:03.000So they can hear everything in the forest.
01:34:05.000Wow. they can hear every little sound because when a deer's coming in they come in slowly they're like they're all wary and shit they're stepping on the grass they're moving around and you might just hear something just a rustle and you're like where's it and you see him all You got to get your bow.
01:34:22.000So you're waiting all day for one moment and you're shooting down.
01:34:26.000Yeah. Because like the animals like they're down like below you or like you're at like sharp angle.
01:34:31.000So you have to have like a range compensating, an angle compensating range fighter because the shot might be 40 yards but it actually might be 20 yards because you're shooting straight down.
01:34:44.000You're the way your arrow is going to drop.
01:34:46.000It's not going to be as affected by gravity.
01:34:49.000So if you're shooting 40 yards on a flat plane, the arrow's going to arc and it's going to drop.
01:34:54.000So over the course of the 40 yards, if your arrow's going to 290 feet per second, which is a good speed, it's going to slowly drop until it gets to 40 yards.
01:35:04.000So you have, that's why your range, like you set up the pin, you move it to where the arrow's going to be when it finally gets there at 40 yards.
01:35:39.000Yeah. So mine is an adjustable one that's on a wheel, and that's what you need.
01:35:42.000Because like, say if a deer's coming in, you're in a tree stand, you look and you're like, that's pretty far away, but it's pretty far like this, straight down.
01:35:52.000So pretty far straight down, your arrow's not going to drop as much as if you were shooting straight.
01:35:56.000Yeah. If you're shooting straight, it's going to go, boom, and then...
01:35:59.000So you have to have a range finder that figures that out for you.
01:38:31.000And then you're just going through your shot process.
01:38:33.000You're just staying steady and making sure you go through your shot process perfect so that when the shot breaks, the arrow goes exactly where you want to.
01:38:41.000But with a recurve, like, you have to practice all the time because you have to have that feel.
01:38:46.000Right. You have to feel and know where that arrow is going to go.
01:38:50.000Like you're looking down the shaft of your arrow, but your accuracy is...
01:38:56.000greatly diminished compared to like a compound bow.
01:38:59.000I haven't shot my, I only shoot my compound bow now, but I haven't shot my recurve bow with the little wristlet thing.
01:39:25.000You know, like the real psychos, what happens is guys, the highest level of bow hunting is guys go after like elk and deer with a recurve bow.
01:39:34.000My friend Aaron Schneider did that for a couple of years.
01:39:37.000He only shot, because he's like an elite hunter, like an elite bow hunter.
01:39:41.000But what's the ultimate poundage of a recurve bow?
01:40:27.000Your draw length's probably 29 and a half, maybe 30 inches.
01:40:31.000Mine's 28. So I used to have 28 and a half and then I dropped down to 28 and I adjusted a few things and I feel like the more tension at the end, like the further back you are, like I know guys who want extra energy and so they're what's called overdrawn.
01:40:48.000So they maybe should have a 27-inch draw, but they have a 29-inch draw, and they have their release way back here.
01:40:54.000So they're shooting things totally different.
01:40:57.000You would never tell anybody to do that.
01:40:59.000Yeah. But some guys get really good doing that, and then they just stick with it.
01:41:03.000Like, it's all about repeatability, but...
01:41:05.000Cam taught me, like, Cam, he's smaller than, his draws a little bit smaller than mine.
01:41:12.000He started out with a longer draw as well, but then brought, when he, like, for him, the ultimate thing is accuracy.
01:41:18.000And he's like, when your bow is more tense, more taught, and there's more tension on it, if it's a shorter draw length, you're more accurate.
01:42:39.000Yeah, like, this is going to sound so silly, and you know me so well that you're going to laugh when I say this, but, like, my jackets weren't fitting.
01:44:36.000I don't think I've laughed harder with an individual in my fucking life.
01:44:41.000No, there's no one better than Theo for, can we get that lighter?
01:44:44.000For a hang, just talking shit, being silly.
01:44:46.000It was me, him, and my wife the whole time.
01:44:49.000They were like, because we went to slap fight together, then we went to UFC together, sat next to Taylor, sat next to Max Crosby, sat next to Mel Gibson, Taylor Sheridan.
01:48:17.000Yeah, but it's basically roll the dice.
01:48:19.000Whatever that number is, you just got to roll it again.
01:48:22.000And then everyone gets a bet on whether you're not going to roll it, whether you are going to roll it, and then they can bet on the other numbers that you might roll before you roll your second number.
01:48:29.000And then there's two rolls that get you out.
01:48:31.000And then if you roll those at the beginning, you get money.
01:48:41.000Get her to throw it for you, and she gets on a hot streak.
01:48:43.000Dude, we got on a hot streak on a boat one time.
01:48:46.000me and my buddy Cowhead and our buddy Pete, and we were fucking, we were rolling hot, and fucking people are making a lot of money.
01:48:52.000And we're talking, I'm on my 20th roll, and I'm hitting'em and hitting'em and hitting'em, and I grab'em one time, and I go to roll, and the dealer guy hits my hands with the fucking stick.
01:53:30.000There are these episode arcs where it starts off telling a story and you pay out by the last episode, much like Peaky Blinders.
01:53:39.000They were great standalone episodes, but that episode, it was so addictive.
01:53:44.000The streamers have changed the way we're taking in content because you start, if you start Slow Horses Tonight, you'll watch all six, and then you'll be like, honey, we're watching all of these tomorrow.
01:54:33.000There was some real great moments in it.
01:54:36.000We played it a bunch of times, but the one when they're in the theater, the medical theater, and he's trying to convince this guy that the guy's insane.
01:54:43.000He's like, I'm here to show you that he will not turn into a wolf.
01:55:43.000There's the uncanny Valley effect, right?
01:55:46.000Yeah. And so when he fully transforms in the scenes where he's attacking people, he's an actor, he's Benicio del Turo, but with all these prosthetics on.
01:55:57.000And it looks much more realistic, like the way it moves, the way it behaves.
01:56:03.000Like when he goes after these people, it seems...
01:56:06.000Well, go back up so he could see it rip the guy's heart out.
01:58:46.000Dude. Isn't it great when a guy comes back?
01:58:49.000And not just comes back, but comes back and kills it in a movie, and then has this, like, heartfelt speech where he's, like, tearing up and crying and, like, everybody loves him again.
01:58:59.000That must have felt awful for that guy.
02:05:46.000I can talk on the surface level about a lot of stuff.
02:05:49.000Do you like when a person like Taylor, you were kind of between three conversations, because you were talking to your wife, you're talking to David, but like me and Leanne were dead set talking to Taylor.
02:06:01.000And I love, I love when a dude holds court like that was a great table of cool people.
02:06:07.000The way he sat, where he's like, let me tell you about.
02:06:09.000I remember Leanne was like, I had 400 head of cattle.
02:06:12.000As a kid, and he goes, yeah, I got 14,000.
02:06:14.000And I was like, Leanne, shut out of your mouth, let him talk.
02:06:23.000And he's a guy, you know, there's a ranch that I hunt at in California, and he was a cowboy on that ranch at one point time, an actual cowboy.
02:06:31.000He actually worked and helped to fucking move cattle around.
02:06:35.000Oh, and you know me, like, you know, sometimes if you tell a story, I get a similar story, I'll tell you my story after.
02:11:01.000They found his body, you know, probably like five years after, ten years after.
02:11:05.000And they said he had a broken leg, a fractured skull and his pick.
02:11:09.000And that's how they could figure out it was him because his initials were in his pick.
02:11:12.000And they said he always carried a picture of his wife because he was going to put the picture of his wife on the top of Mount Everest, and it wasn't in his pocket.
02:11:20.000So they're like, did he, was he in fact the first person to get there?
02:14:53.000I mean, not just guessing, but guessing so wrong.
02:14:56.000I asked my dad about the polio vaccine and I go, do they have to run it by your parents?
02:15:00.000He goes, parents, they just took us into the gym and stuck everyone.
02:15:03.000Yeah. I mean, they just were like, yo, we think this works.
02:15:09.000What was the, there's a controversy yesterday when there was some sort of a hearing on whether or not they should ban sugar and candy from school lunches or whether they should discourage sugar and candy.
02:15:27.000And it was something like the American Heart Association voted to not restrict the diets of kids.
02:16:44.000American Heart Association opposes a Texas bill that would restrict using SNAP benefits to purchase sugary drinks and process snacks.
02:16:53.000Critics' question of corporate funding influences the American Health Association's policies.
02:16:59.000The AHA's opposition to spark criticism over its history of receiving funding from major food companies, like PepsiCo and Coca-Cola, raising concerns about conflicts of interest.
02:17:10.000An AHA spokesperson said their position on the Texas legislation was miscommunicated.
02:17:16.000They say the organization has long favored the USDA using its authority to increase the consumption of healthy foods and decrease consumption of sugary drinks.
02:17:24.000So they changed their opinion, probably based on controversy.
02:17:33.000During the hearing, lawmakers and public health advocates voiced their opinions.
02:17:39.000State Senator Lois co-coorsed expressed shock over AHA's opposition during the hearing.
02:17:45.000I often say that I can never be surprised in this building, but for the American Heart Association to be against this bill, that might be the surprise of the session so far.
02:17:56.000It sounds weird that they would, they would, I mean, it doesn't even make sense.
02:20:36.000And it's the snitches that want you to say.
02:20:40.000It's almost like it's the fucking cunts that you...
02:20:42.000They can't help it because you can get so many likes.
02:20:44.000Yeah. And I'm like, bitch, you want this comedy.
02:20:46.000Right. But if you put something, if you say something wild on stage and it's funny and they laugh, you could take that and put it on your Instagram and you'll get two million views.
02:20:55.000And that's just too tempting for people.
02:20:57.000We bust people with those meta glasses.
02:21:00.000Yeah, they try to come in with their fucking ray bands on and film things.
02:23:07.000I don't want to, but he broke down how he does a special to me, me and him sitting in a fucking in a barn in a middle of a field in fucking three in the morning with IVs in our arms.
02:23:18.000And I was like, dude, I gave him a hug.
02:23:21.000I was like, he's just saying he's the fucking greatest.
02:23:23.000Him and Cat Williams, two of the baddest motherfuckers and the sweetest guys.
02:23:27.000But I was like, that energy, like, I have no, I want Chappelle's special to be fucking amazing when it comes out.
02:24:59.000I'm friends with a few people that suck.
02:25:02.000but they're nice people you know you can separate that but I'm also friends with some people that are mind-blowing you know and there's such a value in that you know when you're around people that are like really good at what they do when you're around Dave and Schultz is my favorite for going to a place and then talking shit about the place in such a brilliant way.
02:26:22.000Like, same way, we both did it, and he goes, is it fun?
02:26:24.000I said, I had the best time in my life.
02:26:26.000He goes up, and it's the day the king gets coronated.
02:26:29.000and he goes out first words he's like fuck your king and the play starts going ole ole ole ole Tommy didn't know if they were going to stop singing.
02:26:39.000We did a show in Hawaii, and he goes at Pearl Harbor, and they're like, all right, Tommy opens the show.
02:26:45.000He goes, they're like, first rule, don't make fun of the Wyans.
02:26:48.000Second rule, do not bring up Pearl Harbor.
02:27:52.000He goes, when I was in America, I was like, you go out at night, you're at a club, you always worried, someone's going to pull a gun out, something's going to happen.
02:30:36.000It's like, I loved it in pool halls, too.
02:30:38.000I love being around the smokers, even if I didn't want to have anything to do with it.
02:30:42.000Do you remember the comics that would smoke on stage, and then they go and do the Tonight Show, and they didn't know what to do with their right hand?
02:32:29.000Johnny Carson was at a bar drunk, and the mobster's girl was there, and the mobster was in the back, and Johnny Carson hit on the mobster's girl, and, like, smacked her ass or lifted her shirt skirt up.
02:32:41.000And they were like, we're going to kill him, and they went out and he hid, and then he went out, and they were like, no, we have a hit on him.
02:33:14.000Unidentified wise guy and his goons picked Carson up off his bar stool and threw him down a flight of stairs before famed saloon owner, Jilly Rizzo, whose regulars included Sinatra, Dean Martin, and Judy Garland, interceded and prevented a more serious beatdown, but the mob big wasn't satisfied and put out a contract to have Carson whacked.
02:33:35.000Terrified Carson wisely hold up in his UN Plaza Palace for three days, missing three shows, according to the book.
02:33:43.000The vengeful mobsters only backed off after one of Carson's contacts at the William Morris Agency cut a deal with crime boss, Joseph Columbo.
02:33:56.000The mob boss had recently formed the Italian American Civil Rights League to persuade America that a group, the people of Italian descent were being unfairly stereotyped as mafiosi.
02:34:06.000The group was planning for a big rally, and Colombo was deeply, deeply disappointed that so far all of the networks have refused to cover the rally.
02:35:47.000I think there's an energy to that place, probably because of the gang history that just made it, like, extra wild and dangerous.
02:35:55.000It just always felt like anything can happen in that place.
02:35:58.000I think there's, like, baked in memories.
02:36:01.000Like, there's photos of, like, Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis on stage there.
02:36:05.000Yeah. That place was like, that was the spot.
02:36:09.000Like, that was the spot in L.A. And the mob would all be there.
02:36:12.000And they'd fucking do deals and whack people and take people down in the basement and fucking kill them.
02:36:19.000That's, out of all the scariness in movies, the scariest part of any movie is one of those mob movies where they say to the guy, hey, Johnny wants to talk to you tonight.
02:36:28.000And the guy's like, tell Johnny, I'll call him tomorrow.
02:36:30.000He's like, no, he said to get in the car now.
02:36:48.000Or like, when you see in the war movies, when you see, like, in, what was the one, 1917, when they tell those two kids, they got to run and go tell the front line what to do.
02:38:14.000Yeah. That opening scene was so fucking horrific that you'd never seen a scene like that in a war movie that accurately depicts people getting torn apart right in front of you.
02:38:26.000Oh. My dad found his dad's diary from the war.
02:38:30.000Oh. And he photocopied it and sent me the photocopy.
02:38:45.000But if in there, there was a memory of like, they took one of these like Q boats, I think, or K boats across the fucking Atlantic over to England.
02:38:54.000barely got had time to get off the boat, stayed in England for a second.
02:38:56.000I think they, I want to say they stayed on the boat the boat the whole time and then took that same boat over to, or they probably took different boats, but took a boat over to Normandy.
02:39:04.000My dad's, my grandfather's entry is something to the effect of We're going to this, we're storming this beach today.
02:39:11.000Like, they didn't, I don't think he knew the, like, what, the levity or the seriousness of what was happening.
02:39:17.000I think they were like, like, he just very casually mentioned it.
02:44:43.000It's like such a fucking, I just, I don't know, man, there's something, there's something really interesting about that freedom that they had there that they just talked openly.
02:44:54.000And like, they take a cigarette break and like the girls would sit down and cuddle up next to a dude that they weren't dating, they'd just touchy like that.
02:45:01.000Like they don't have like, there's no like intimacy counselor on set.
02:45:05.000They were just, I remember watching one of the girls.
02:45:08.000sit and have a cigarette with one of the dudes and they were like just culling against the wall and I was like are they dating and they're like no they're just friends look at that shit that's Serbian basketball baby bro that's war that's war How long before these guys take over basketball?
02:47:26.000When those folks start entering into other sports, when people from, like, hard environments start entering sports, like the scariest guy in the UFC, or one of the scariest, is from Chechnya.
02:52:10.000Like if you have small hands, if you're a woman, it's just like you can't generate enough force for the most part unless you're like an unusually strong woman.
02:52:36.000If a woman gets her fucking legs locked around your neck and gets a triangle on you, you're fucked.
02:52:41.000Dude. If she knows how to do jujitsu, like, your legs are carrying, if you weigh 130 pounds in your woman, your legs are carrying 130 pounds all day long.
02:54:53.000It's terrifying because you get that moment where you're, like, I definitely sparked out a couple of times where I could see the door was closing.
02:55:04.000You have to tap, you have a second left before you go out, before you tap.
02:55:08.000And when someone's got like a really good rear naked choke, once it's locked in and they start to clamp down the pad, like you gotta fucking tap.
02:55:17.000Especially in training, like it's stupid to not tap because you could really get hurt, especially if you get caught in an arm bar or worse is like a heel hook or a knee bar.
02:57:06.000But I'm being real careful to get it to 100% before I think about doing anything.
02:57:11.000Like right now, I can kick the bag again.
02:57:12.000I can do pretty much everything again.
02:57:15.000But it's one of those things where I'm still getting better.
02:57:18.000Sweet. When you say stretching, because like I, after we did the, I did so much working out, I had a masseuse come in and, like, kind of test my flexibility.
02:59:49.000Yeah, because you would take a little cap full before you went to sleep and it would burn fat while you slept.
02:59:54.000Well, apparently, I was reading about this conspiracy about GHB and about how safe GHB is in small doses and how good it is for you with sleep and recovery.
03:00:06.000But the problem is people would dump it in people's drinks.
03:00:09.000And then it was like a date rape drug.
03:00:11.000Yeah. Because you just get, if you have a lot of it, you're out of it.
03:00:14.000You don't know what the fuck is going on.
03:00:16.000And so then it became the date rape drug and then it just got pulled from the market or at least very difficult to get.
03:00:22.000But yeah, I remember during those days when it was out, like bodybuilders would always talk about it.
03:00:28.000They were all taking GHB before they go to sleep.
03:00:31.000And it like has some, like Google what the conspiracy is about GHB, but it has some profound effects on recovery, like puts you in deep sleep.
03:00:40.000And apparently at the right doses, it's very safe.
03:02:37.000Well, this is Derek from More Plates, More Dates was on the podcast, and who's explaining how making steroids illegal when they did that, they've stopped all the research and development that could have made those things very safe.
03:02:52.000So because they stopped doing any studies on them and they made them a banned substance, then everyone's just reliant upon the ones that are already in existence and no new ones have been developed.
03:03:05.000So all the steroids that people are taking are all steroids that have been developed a long, long time ago.
03:03:10.000And he said it stifled the innovation and the ability to make better, safer ones.
03:03:16.000The problem is the idea of cheating in athletics, right?
03:03:21.000You know, if someone is taking steroids, they have an advantage over people who don't take steroids.
03:03:25.000But if they could figure out a way to make them safe or they didn't completely fuck up your endocrine system, there should be an argument where if it makes you perform better but doesn't have a detrimental effect on you, then athletes should take it.
03:03:38.000Yes. But people don't like that idea because they don't want someone to have some massive advantage in any sort of a sport.
03:03:46.000It also goes into like society, the demonizing of anyone on a semi-glutide.
03:03:51.000Yeah. I mean, people go, I mean, people get shit on.
03:03:54.000Like, I joke that Tom's on, uh, what's it?