In this episode of the podcast, Dr. Carl Sagan joins Dr. Kelly to talk about his new book, Dissolving Illusions. Dr. Sagan is a pediatric infectious disease physician, author, and public speaker. He is also the author of a new book about the history of childhood vaccines, and has been involved in the fight against childhood vaccination since the early days of the war on childhood immunizations.
00:00:21.000Yes, it is good to keep an open mind, isn't it, and be flexible and look at a 360-degree view of things rather than your tunnel vision and what you're indoctrinated into, isn't it?
00:00:31.000Yeah, and especially if you know that that indoctrination has been on purpose and profitable.
00:00:40.000One of the great things about your book is, first of all, your book's called Dissolving Illusions.
00:00:45.000I know I've talked about it on the podcast a bunch of times.
00:00:49.000You also highlight a lot of things that we know are beneficial that somehow or another get lumped into nonsense.
00:01:04.000Herb, actually, and it's known to be helpful in glucose handling for a lot of diabetics taking it in capsule form now.
00:01:11.000I noticed at the end of my nephrology career that a lot of my own patients were taking cinnamon capsules, but it also has a lot of vitamin C in it, and I think that was probably one of the keys, a lot of those old remedies that we wrote about.
00:01:25.000The magic in them probably was the vitamin C in them.
00:01:27.000I dismissed all that stuff as total nonsense.
00:01:30.000I was like, oh, that's hippie nonsense, like echinacea, like get out of here.
00:02:23.000And one of the things that you talked about in the book is that I think this is really important.
00:02:29.000When you're talking about the measles vaccine, you were saying that either if you get an infection with measles, just a natural infection, or if you get the vaccine.
00:02:39.000You're still going to get depleted of vitamin A. Like, if you get vaccinated for the measles, you should be taking vitamin A as well.
00:02:46.000Your body's going to get depleted just by getting that shot.
00:02:52.000Just Tylenol, which actually makes the vaccine not work as well, in addition to causing all kinds of immunological disturbances at the time that you're supposed to be upregulating your immune system against this dreaded disease.
00:03:04.000Yeah, but one of the things about the recommended by the white coats and the authorities...
00:03:09.000The public believes that so many drugs and remedies are standardized that the conventional medical system gives out.
00:03:18.000And when you go to actually look at them, and this includes vaccines, even though they're standardized, meaning that the manufacturers are told...
00:03:26.000What the regulations should be in terms of production.
00:03:29.000When people go and look at them, they find it's anything but standardized.
00:03:32.000It's very variable, which is why we see such variability in the results when people receive them.
00:03:38.000That's only one reason why there's so much variability.
00:03:42.000Do you think it's the immunity to any legal consequences that has allowed them to operate like this?
00:03:51.000Well, we certainly saw an explosion of their creativity since 1986.
00:03:56.000Actually, in 1986, you're referring to the National Child Vaccine Injury Act that was passed in 1986.
00:04:02.000But before 1986, we had 1976, which was the swine flu vaccine fiasco.
00:04:09.000And that was a situation where there was so much injury that the vaccine-producing companies...
00:04:16.000We're no longer able to get insurance.
00:04:18.000And so they went to the government and they said, we need you to indemnify us.
00:04:37.000And then they would put a background of all kinds of horrid things inside of it and tell you it was just a clear, beautiful, pure solution.
00:04:44.000So then 1986 comes along because there's so many lawsuits happening because of the diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus vaccine that, again, the vaccine companies couldn't continue to go on the way they were because they were being sued so much.
00:04:57.000So then this horrible act was passed, which to some people seemed like a good idea.
00:05:04.000Promise, promise, yes, yes, yes, we're going to cover all the lawsuits now out of taxes, but it's going to be okay because we're going to pay out these lawsuits and you're going to be fine.
00:05:11.000If your kid takes one for the team, you're going to be okay.
00:05:15.000And what happens is after time, after they get their foot in the door, they narrow down the...
00:05:21.000They basically have a kangaroo court that decides if you're eligible.
00:05:24.000And so the qualification tables got narrowed down because in the beginning they were paying out so much of this.
00:05:30.000So not only did it make the vaccine companies very, very wealthy and indemnified, but as you alluded to just a minute ago, the creativity of the vaccine companies expanded.
00:05:40.000So after that they could add different, what we call adjuvants, things that stimulate the immune system so the vaccine works better.
00:05:48.000start, that's why we're able to be in a messenger RNA vaccine situation today, which that wouldn't have happened if it weren't for this indemnification that, you know, the vaccine trials have We've never seen a vaccinated, unvaccinated study that is accepted by the powers that be.
00:06:17.000So if you're testing a measles vaccine, you could test it against a diphtheria vaccine or a flu shot vaccine is tested against a hepatitis A vaccine.
00:06:25.000There's no saline placebo because the few studies that exist with saline placebos show how bad the vaccine actually is and how it makes you not only not respond to the disease when it comes around, but more susceptible to it in many cases.
00:06:39.000Have there been any instances where vaccines have been helpful?
00:06:45.000The question of the century, isn't it?
00:06:47.000Okay, now we have to back up a minute because I had that same question and I had to go dig deep to all the questions you have in your head right now.
00:06:57.000So here I am, a medical doctor working in the field, believing in pretty much everything I was told, giving hundreds if not thousands of vaccines out to my patients, hepatitis B vaccines in particular, flu shots for sure.
00:07:10.000I was a nephrologist, kidney specialist, and dialysis, etc.
00:07:17.000And initially, you know, we all kind of have an aversion to needles.
00:07:20.000I think it's a natural human aversion.
00:07:22.000So when we're kids, no one's going, oh, I want to go get my vaccines.
00:07:25.000We're like, you know, okay, fine, sore arm, you get over it.
00:07:27.000Most of us were lucky enough to get over it.
00:07:31.000So by the time the first instance of...
00:07:35.000When the problem occurred in front of my eyes, I was already a fully seasoned professor of medicine, you know, working in a tertiary care medical center, okay?
00:07:44.000And so it's been a bit of a process because, for me, it was the influenza vaccines in 2008, 2009 that showed me, without a doubt, that vaccines can and do cause kidney failure and put people on dialysis, that that does happen.
00:08:23.000Even though this has absolutely zero to do with polio because I'm watching people crap out in front of me after influenza vaccines, let's see about polio.
00:08:31.000Because I knew very little about polio, just like most people walking around out there do.
00:08:35.000That, you know, it was invented by this guy named Jonas Salk and it saved humanity.
00:08:39.000We don't see these little crippled kids anymore.
00:08:54.000And I thought, you know, we still have people walking the earth that have experienced the polio years.
00:08:59.000So I kind of like to stick to polio because most of the smallpox...
00:09:03.000You know, people that would have been familiar with it are off the planet.
00:09:07.000But there's still some doctors around that will talk about smallpox.
00:09:10.000A guy named Thomas Mack, who's probably close to 90, who was kind of ground zero in the 1940s and knows a lot about it and still says we shouldn't be vaccinated for smallpox today.
00:11:29.000Polio is called different things today.
00:11:32.000Whereas back in the 1940s, 1950s, The criteria for diagnosing polio were completely different to the year that the vaccine was introduced.
00:11:41.000The playing field, the goalposts, everything was changed so that despite the fact that there was more paralytic polio in the years after that vaccine was introduced, they were able to show a complete cascading drop of paralytic polio simply because of the way they changed the definitions of what polio is and what could cause it.
00:11:59.000And they started testing for the virus, where before they would never test for the virus.
00:12:03.000And when they started testing for the virus...
00:12:05.000Later, what they would find that people had Guillain-Barre syndrome, they didn't have virus, or they had Coxsackie virus or echo virus, or they were lead poisoned or mercury poisoned, which was the mercury and lead were the leading treatments of the day, including bloodletting.
00:12:20.000They were telling people to take your cigarette and put a little bit of arsenic in there.
00:13:44.000Yeah. So they're basically soaking and bathing in arsenic, which is great for killing fleas and ticks.
00:13:49.000But it's not really great for keeping your nervous system happy because the fact of the matter is, and this, again, I've got medical references, everything.
00:13:56.000I can't get away with making stuff up, okay?
00:13:58.000I have to put a reference for everything.
00:14:00.000But arsenic causes the exact same spinal pathology and fevers and everything.
00:14:05.000It literally mimics what they were calling polio and a poliovirus.
00:14:22.000So polio virus is what we call a commensal, just like you have staph on your skin and strep on your skin, and it actually serves a purpose.
00:14:30.000It keeps other microbes in check as long as you don't get a cut and have not a good immune system to deal from the inside out.
00:14:36.000So polio, the reason I can say that polio is a commensal is because, again, there are medical studies that showed that people who dared to get on the edge of some of these wild native tribes down in South America or elsewhere, but in particular I'm talking about We're talking about a South American tribe called the Javante Indians.
00:14:53.000So the Indian Health Service got to the edge of it and bargained that they would get some stool and some blood from the tribes so that they could test it for polio.
00:15:02.000And what they found was 98% to 99% of every person they tested, and it was hundreds of people, had evidence of immunity to all three strains of polio.
00:15:12.000And they said to them, well, where are your crippled children?
00:15:43.000Like in the beginning, people were getting super, super sick.
00:15:46.000It wasn't as contagious, but it was more virulent.
00:15:49.000And as it attenuated into the human bodies, it sort of kind of fizzled out a bit.
00:15:55.000And then we got the Omicron, which was less – it was more spreadable, but it was much less pathological.
00:16:01.000And that's the natural process that happens.
00:16:03.000So when you're going to have problems...
00:16:12.000And then they're introduced into the population.
00:16:15.000And look, I'm not making this up either.
00:16:17.0001916, Upper East Side, Manhattan, there was a Rockefeller lab that their specific stated goal was to try to create the most pathological, neuropathological strain of polio possible.
00:16:30.000And they did that by taking monkey brains and human spinal serum and injecting it into monkeys.
00:16:35.000And there was a big problem with that, which was released into the public by accident.
00:16:40.000The world experienced the worst polio epidemic on record.
00:17:32.000It used to be until we obliterated it with oral vaccines and replaced it with vaccine strain.
00:17:37.000But the wild strains are normal human commensals.
00:17:40.000So there's vaccine strain polio that just comes from a vaccine and is transmissible?
00:17:46.000Absolutely. Today, it would be the oral polio vaccines because they're the live strains, and they're still giving them pulse fashion all throughout India.
00:17:56.000They did a campaign a few years back in Israel, and they always say that a nomad came and pooped in the sewage system, and they find it in the sewage system, and they don't want an outbreak to happen, so they treat everybody.
00:18:10.000So that's today the most common reason to see...
00:18:28.000I got the sugar cube, and that was the live vaccine.
00:18:31.000Well, they stopped doing that because after a while, the only cases of polio, and it became so obvious that the only cases of polio we were seeing related to a virus, when they tested for polio virus, were vaccine strains.
00:18:41.000So then they started injecting us again.
00:18:43.000But the early injections caused more paralytic polio than it prevented.
00:18:47.000And that's the part that people don't understand when they say, what about polio?
00:18:50.000Because they, like you, just go, well, there's no more iron lungs.
00:19:44.000Myelitis? Poliomyelitis is the definition of the actual pathology.
00:19:50.000So it basically means inflammation of the gray matter of your spinal cord.
00:19:55.000That's what polio in Greek, poliomyelitis.
00:19:58.000It means gray matter inflammation, poliomyelitis.
00:20:02.000Poliomyelitis is what happens in the body, okay?
00:20:05.000If you want to talk about what causes it, then okay, maybe in some cases a poliovirus causes it.
00:20:11.000And all the other things we just mentioned, arsenic, lead arsenate, calcium arsenate, injections, tonsillectomies were a huge cause of some of the worst cases of poliomyelitis.
00:20:22.000And in fact, injections and tonsillectomies and Unnecessary surgeries were put on hold during the years where the epidemics were the worst.
00:20:30.000So that's just proof that even the surgeons knew that.
00:20:36.000Okay, so if you happen to have poliomyelitis circulating in your body that's not just sitting in your intestines and say it made its way into your body, because we can.
00:20:45.000Things can go from your intestines into your body.
00:20:50.000Close to a nerve that's up, say, around your throat, and then you go and take tonsils out, then what you've done is you've given that access to the blood compartment, the lymph compartment, and the brain stem, which is right there, local.
00:21:04.000So those are the people that would get what was called bulbar polio, which is the ones that put you on a ventilator, and it's highly lethal.
00:21:11.000It's the worst kind of polio to get, bulbar polio.
00:21:14.000And it was very well known to have been coincident with tonsillectomies.
00:21:19.000It's changed the structure and antibodies and the immunity that occurred in the throat and it changed it for the worse, not for the better.
00:21:29.000Or is there some times when people have to get their tonsils removed or is it just a nonsense practice?
00:21:35.000Okay, so again, it's not just a cut and dry answer because let's just say that anyone who's ever brought their child to me because the tonsils were touching or they were snoring has not had to have a tonsillectomy.
00:21:49.000Now, does that mean that a tonsillectomy won't solve that problem where you're snoring and, you know, your kid's maybe not oxygenating?
00:21:55.000No. If you let it go that long, probably you're going to need a tonsillectomy.
00:22:02.000But as doctors, we're not taught about all the things that you were talking about earlier, the natural remedies, but just simply gargling with a solution of...
00:22:10.000of sodium ascorbate, vitamin C, can make a huge difference because tonsils are like porous golf balls if you want to think of them that way.
00:22:18.000They've got pits in them and so food you eat and bacteria and pus can build up.
00:22:23.000But if you just start rinsing the outsides of them and start nourishing the body from the inside and getting rid of things that the kid might be allergic to, which almost every kid's going to eat if your parent doesn't know better, it can make a remarkable difference in these kids that have these huge tonsils.
00:22:38.000So I think that I think everything else should be done first before taking out the tonsils if there's time because I'd say 95 to 99 percent of the time you can prevent that child from needing their tonsils removed.
00:22:50.000Before we go to smallpox, I want to talk about this because you just brought it up.
00:22:55.000One of the things that Brett Weinstein has explained to me is that aluminum is when that...
00:23:05.000The concept is that giving someone a shot with aluminum in it and triggering an immune response, if they're eating certain foods during that time, they can then develop an allergy to those foods.
00:23:22.000Like certain people with peanuts and various things like that that used to be very common for people to eat, but then a bunch of people developed pretty severe food allergies.
00:23:51.000The vaccines that have aluminum in them skew the immune system.
00:23:54.000So the immune system, if you want to break it down really simply, you have your Th1 arm and your Th2 arm.
00:24:01.000Your Th1 arm is your really important one.
00:24:03.000Those are your T cells, your lymphocytes, the cells that chew up any garbage that's going around.
00:24:09.000That's the part you want activated in any infection you have, whether it's COVID or measles or smallpox or whatever.
00:24:14.000Then you have your Th2 arm, which is there mostly to deal with parasites and things like that, and it's mostly an antibody.
00:24:21.000That's the one that vaccinologists are obsessed with, making sure there's enough antibody.
00:24:25.000So the vaccines that have aluminum in them, as opposed to the live attenuated vaccines, which don't have aluminum, all the other ones do.
00:24:33.000So your DTAP is going to have aluminum in them.
00:24:36.000All your killed vaccines are going to have aluminum in them.
00:24:38.000And that is very well known to trigger that TH2 response, which is the allergic response, which can set up your body for autoimmunity.
00:24:47.000Part of the purpose of, you know, breastfeeding, which is part of the blueprint for humanity and every other mammal, is that...
00:24:57.000The mother is able to introduce antigens in the world to her baby through her own breast and things that she's been eating and breathing in, and then the baby's able to develop tolerance.
00:25:05.000So, you know, while vaccine scientists are obsessed with getting antibodies and ramping up an infant's inadequate immune system, the fact of the matter is that it's more important to learn what not to react to when your immune system's developing rather than to becoming defensive against every microbe that could get you.
00:25:21.000So that's kind of the paradox there and one of the battlegrounds for immunology, within immunology.
00:25:27.000And for those of us out here that are going, what are you doing here?
00:25:32.000You're also talking in your book about the importance of breast milk and the amount of nutrition that's in breast milk for a child and what it does for a child and the differences in their immune system, the differences in a lot of different.
00:25:47.000Aspects of their development, which is pretty fascinating.
00:25:51.000And most people kind of just assume it's food.
00:25:58.000And I was actually quite startled when I really went down that rabbit hole to see not only I mean, it is food.
00:26:05.000It's excellent nutrition with short-chain fatty acids and sugars that the baby needs.
00:26:09.000It actually trains your gut to be healthy in the long run as an adult, which trains your immune system as well.
00:26:15.000But what that mother is putting through her breast milk, you know, things like something called HAMLET, H-A-M-L-E-T, which stands for Human...
00:26:23.000Alpha-lactalbumin made lethal to tumors.
00:26:59.000Activated T cells have another substance in them that is kind of hijacked by the oncology industry, and that is when they're immunosuppressing kids for leukemia or whatever, and they come in contact, say, with chickenpox.
00:27:13.000What they can do is get somebody like me, who's immune to chickenpox, naturally, and take my memory T cells that remember that, and there's a substance in there.
00:27:23.000It's called dialyzable leukocyte extract.
00:27:26.000When you put that into another child, even whether they eat it or inject it into them, it transfers cellular, that Th1 important arm of immunity I just told you, it transfers it onto them and protects them for a long time.
00:27:39.000So that's kind of in the old days when mothers had measles in the old days and normally, and they were able to pass this powerful immunity through that.
00:27:48.000That DLE factor, as well as all these other things, including preformed immune globulins.
00:27:54.000I mentioned something like 80,000 stem cells.
00:27:59.000And we still have only hit the tip of the iceberg in terms of what we know about breast milk.
00:28:05.000But breast milk also, it's been proven again that if you are going to vaccinate your baby, if you're breastfeeding, the vaccine will bring that baby more into a Th1.
00:28:17.000Breastfeeding and you're giving formula, that baby's going to move more into a TH2 in response to that vaccine.
00:28:22.000So, like, I think if most women understood the powers of breast milk, they would do everything possible to be able to do it.
00:28:30.000I think you make a very compelling point for that.
00:28:33.000I just, I think it's arrogant that we could assume that we could replace something with, I mean, have you ever read the ingredients of formula?
00:29:16.000So the formula industry is a huge moneymaker, and some women do prefer it.
00:29:24.000Fortunately, 75% of women in the USA today do initiate breastfeeding.
00:29:29.000So that's very much better than the polio days when almost nobody was breastfeeding and they were using milk in the infant formula that had been contaminated by what the cows were eating.
00:29:49.000Yes. And the cows were getting sick with it.
00:29:51.000And then these people were drinking the milk from that cow and getting sick as well.
00:29:56.000Well, the cows wouldn't have been necessarily getting sick from it, but it would be concentrating in their milk.
00:30:01.000And so the milk would have been expressed.
00:30:04.000But you just brought me back to another place.
00:30:07.000Cows were also used during the smallpox era, and what you're saying is true about that.
00:30:12.000So they would basically take what they thought...
00:30:17.000Sorry. It's just so dark that sometimes you have to laugh.
00:30:20.000But they would take pus from other animals, scratch it into the belly of a cow, then take the pus off of the big pimples that would form on the belly of a cow.
00:30:30.000The cow could become very sick, and yet that cow could still be butchered up at the butcher shop.
00:30:34.000The butcher would get sick with pemphigus or some hand-and-mouth disease.
00:30:39.000You know, things that the cows normally catch.
00:30:42.000And so those cows could still be used to produce meat in those cases.
00:30:46.000I don't know that it was used to produce milk.
00:30:50.000But I know it was used to produce meat because the butchers were getting sick and the people that were eating the meat were getting sick.
00:30:56.000And certainly the people that took the vaccines that had certain who knows what in them because it was shown...
00:31:03.000Like into the 1970s, 80s, and even recently, I have a reference after the year 2000, that there was more bacteria and fungus in the smallpox vaccines than there was smallpox virus.
00:31:14.000So it was because they had this thing called pure lymph, which was pus that came out of the...
00:31:20.000A horse's foot or a donkey's pus skin or a cadaver of a human or a cow's ulcerating udders and scraped into glycerin and called pure lymph and marketed all over the world.
00:31:49.000This vaccine that I have described in great detail with what was in it and what people saw under microscopes and then later tested genetically was what was called a quasi-species, meaning they don't even, after a while, it became its own thing.
00:32:07.000They humanized horsepox when they genetically characterized the dry vax and then ordered that every dry vax specimen on the planet be destroyed.
00:32:26.000But they now have a new vaccine, which doesn't work.
00:32:30.000But they wanted to bring this one back when I was in my...
00:32:34.000The peak of my career in 2003, I got a letter on my desk stating that they needed people to get vaccinated for smallpox so that those other people that were getting vaccinated would have somebody that could treat them that would be immune to smallpox.
00:32:49.000Because it's well known that if you get a smallpox vaccine and you get these horrible scabs, that you are going...
00:32:55.000You're going to spread smallpox and you're going to have a horrible, itchy time of secondary infections.
00:33:02.000Well, it turns out that the trials that they did on super healthy people, soldiers that were in top shape, were so bad in terms of cardiac disease and other diseases that the government put it on hold for a second and said, no, no, no, we can't do this.
00:33:17.000They were using the same vaccine in the 1700s and 1800s.
00:33:24.000Late 1700s, all through the 1800s, into the 1900s, they would sometimes, you probably saw the picture of the child's arm, considered a good take, five huge ulcers on the arm, with sanitation being what it was, no antibiotics.
00:33:38.000Can you imagine having your baby have five scars on its arm, ulcerating from these things, having fevers?
00:33:45.000Sometimes the arms became necrotic, sometimes the disease spread all over the place, and there was nothing to give them except blood.
00:33:52.000Spreading mercurials and arsenicals and heating them up in a dark room with no sunlight.
00:33:59.000So you tell me why smallpox was so lethal.
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00:35:10.000Well, what's fascinating also is that most people aren't aware of just the general public health conditions during the time of the smallpox outbreak.
00:36:30.000It's obviously a drama, and, you know, it's probably not completely accurate, but I bet it's pretty close.
00:36:35.000But it's pretty close to how people live back then.
00:36:37.000Yeah, the slums, like, you can actually, like, in here, it's not all medical articles quoted.
00:36:43.000Some of the quotes that we use are historical quotes from, you know, anthropologists that would go through the slums in New York.
00:36:49.000You know, the Ellis Island was just bringing people in, bringing people in, and they would sometimes have 20 people in one room with no privy, dark, you know.
00:36:58.000Like you say, the sewage would run underneath the house, so the smell of it would be coming up through the whole time.
00:37:03.000And then you'd have them working 16 hours a day at the age of anything up...
00:37:07.000Upwards of four to five years old could be sent to either coal mines or canneries to bring money in for the families to barely survive.
00:37:15.000So people weren't being paid very well.
00:37:17.000But you just said smallpox being what it was.
00:37:20.000But what people don't realize is that in the 1600s, late 1680s, doctors were describing smallpox as one of the easiest diseases to treat if you simply just supported the human.
00:37:32.000And then what happened is the Industrial Revolution and people were taken with the Land Enclosure Acts out from the farms and brought into cities which didn't have – the pigs basically were the garbage men back then.
00:37:49.000Some people just – they said there was a foot of horse manure to get through to walk across the street.
00:37:54.000So it was horrible in pretty much every way you can think of, and then the human oppression on top of it in terms of the poverty that was there and the wealthy elite at the top kind of living the good life.
00:38:06.000But it was starting to filter up to them at some point, which is why it was actually individual people that sponsored the first public drinking fountains and things like that.
00:38:17.000It was probably partly to – Because if you can stop disease from running rampant through society, look, they still had to go into the cities to get things.
00:38:27.000And even if you sent your servant into the city, your servant could bring you home something lovely from the city.
00:38:34.000This is not the picture that was painted when we were children of what society was like.
00:38:42.000No, we were told that this vaccine was so important and it was so effective that we don't need it anymore.
00:38:48.000I actually ended up with one when I was very young.
00:38:50.000I think what we're talking about when we're saying the conditions, that these conditions aren't known to most people and that these conditions coincide with these diseases.
00:38:59.000And it's probably not just a correlation.
00:39:03.000So the conditions correlate with the diseases, and the conditions also correlate with the death rates, okay?
00:39:12.000And so there were many of the diseases that we're talking, say just diarrhea.
00:39:15.000Do you know diarrhea killed more people in the Civil War than bullets?
00:39:19.000Yeah. And lots of other wars, diarrhea.
00:39:22.000Diarrhea can be caused by lots of things, nothing that we vaccinate for, essentially.
00:39:26.000Well, I mean, today there's rotavirus, but that wasn't a thing then.
00:39:49.000The diseases that there were never any vaccines for, we see the death rate come down at the same exact avalanche as the diseases that we did vaccinate for.
00:39:58.000And in some cases, there's a little blip when the vaccine comes up and things get worse for a bit and then come back down.
00:40:03.000So again, the point of the book was just interpreting the data that's existed for a really long time, vital statistics throughout the world as to the...
00:40:17.000Right. You know, so different diseases have different severities.
00:40:29.000And different solutions and different ways to treat them so that they never have to present to a hospital.
00:40:34.000But like you said, you know, back in those days, you know, there wasn't...
00:40:38.000The pharmacies basically had your mercurials, arsenicals, if you were lucky, some homeopathics.
00:40:44.000That was pretty much medicine back then until aspirin was invented, which was probably one of the reasons why the 1918 flu looked as bad as it did because they were giving people up to 10 grams of aspirin a day, which can cause pulmonary edema in a healthy person.
00:40:58.000What was the logic behind the arsenics and the mercurials?
00:41:02.000Like, how did that become an approach that they used for medicine?
00:41:51.000Paradoxically, it's a therapeutic agent that has been used since ancient times for the treatment of multiple diseases.
00:41:56.000So does it actually cure some stuff in small doses?
00:42:01.000Well, what good is it cure if you have a dead patient or a patient with neuropathy?
00:42:05.000You haven't really cured anyone, have you?
00:42:07.000Right. Well, isn't it dose-dependent, right?
00:42:09.000It says arsenic trioxide, the active ingredient in a traditional Chinese medicine, was shown to produce dramatic remission of acute poly...
00:43:40.000So maybe that was part of that because it will kill everything.
00:43:43.000It will kill the microbes in a Petri dish.
00:43:45.000Because this is one of the realities of vaccine manufacture, which I want your audience to understand, is that vaccines, while it might look like just a clear liquid, in order to make a vaccine, you have to have either a cow that you put ulcers on and scrape the pus off, or you can evolve it.
00:44:03.000As it had evolved to maybe getting, you know, some tumorous cells that came out of a cocker spaniel's kidney or monkey balls or monkey kidneys.
00:44:13.000And you plate those cells out and then you inoculate it with what you want to grow to put in your vaccine later.
00:44:20.000But in order to keep those cells alive, you have to put animal blood on it.
00:44:24.000You have to put different nutrients on top of it.
00:44:26.000You have to put antibiotics, canamycin, you know, things like that related to the COVID.
00:44:32.000Okay, so in the end, you can make sure when you have your final product that if you put a little bit of mercury in there, that it's less likely for any of the fungus or the spores or the bacteria or the adventitious viruses that you didn't know about that were there before will be in your final product.
00:44:46.000Wonderful. So you have a product now that you can be not completely sure has any of these.
00:44:53.000Deadly microbes, but now has mercury, which the only places it's actually okay to have on the planet, mercury, is in vaccines, your tooth, or a toxic landfill.
00:45:06.000So if you were to drop a vaccine at a vaccine clinic onto the floor...
00:45:44.000But the fact of the matter is, once mercury is methylated, like fish can methylate mercury and they can get rid of it.
00:45:53.000Once we demethylate mercury, it's in us until you do something like something called chelation, where you can put a chemical into the body that can grab onto it and pull it out through your urine.
00:46:06.000In my opinion, all mercury is bad, shouldn't be put into humans, shouldn't be in our food sources, shouldn't be in our environment, except for in the...
00:46:14.000Look, you can even find uranium in nature, right?
00:46:16.000It's what people do to it to concentrate it and how they use it that becomes a problem.
00:46:21.000Wasn't the issue that one of them, I don't know, it's methyl or ethyl mercury, leaves the body quicker?
00:46:28.000Yes, it's ethyl mercury that leaves the body quicker because methyl is a chemical.
00:48:09.000Because the more you look at it, if you're a logical, rational person without, like, a deep-seated ideology attached to vaccines and you just look at the reality of it, you just go, what is this?
00:48:22.000Like, how did you trick people into injecting?
00:49:28.000What they've done in terms of brainwashing people to believe that all this is...
00:49:33.000It's not just necessary, but it saved millions of lives and anybody that is against it in any way, shape or form is a quack and you should be deplatformed and never talked about again and polite public society and cocktail parties, you'll be shunned.
00:49:47.000Well, the way they were able to get away with it is 226 years worth of propaganda, because the fact of the matter is that ever since the beginning of the smallpox vaccines, there have been vaccine deaths.
00:49:58.000The reason, and look, we've added, I brought you a special copy.
00:50:31.000But in about two or three years after the vaccine was accepted in England, you hear doctors speaking out about it, cursing the day they ever agreed to do it to people, to children, to anybody.
00:50:45.000And so what happened is that the government came down harder and started making it mandatory and would take your furniture away and started intimidating the doctors.
00:50:55.000And I experienced it in any doctor that's ever stepped out of line and said something bad about vaccines will either be intimidated or worse.
00:51:08.000And so I'm just going to give you one example, and I'll give you a copy of this to have, and you can put it up later if you want.
00:51:15.000But in 1984, because there was so much going on in terms of the public learning about the problems with the diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis vaccine and the polio vaccines, that a federal register was issued by the government and went to all health departments in the United States, which is supposed to have been just kept there and never circulated.
00:51:32.000And it said, quote, Any doubts, whether or not well-founded, about the safety of the vaccination program must not be allowed to exist.
00:52:44.000While I've met some incredible people and I've had a really good life and I have no regrets and I would do it all again, no doctor wants to be put in a position where their integrity is doubted, their sanity is doubted.
00:52:57.000And if you want to pull up a page called...
00:53:01.000It is called Rational Wiki, I think, maybe?
00:53:18.000But on the other hand, most doctors can't tolerate being called quacks or having their reputation destroyed.
00:53:23.000And, you know, I went from treating the CEO of actually the...
00:53:28.000The head of the laboratory at my hospital for hypertension to becoming, you know, somebody that was doubted on every levels after a while because of one thing that I said, which was, can we stop giving vaccines to my sick patients, to people who are having chemotherapy while they're having chemotherapy, to my patient before I've even seen them on the ward?
00:53:47.000Can we just hold this up and give it to them on the day of discharge?
00:53:54.000And had they not tried to intimidate me, doubt me, and pushed me to research and show that what I saw was actually real, I would still be lockstep working as a regular doctor because there were some good things about it.
00:54:07.000So, look, even if you look at what happened with COVID, let's just look at that.
00:54:48.000You know, it's a definite gain of function.
00:54:50.000Nope. We got to put it on the vaccine, the baby vaccine schedule, because any doubts whether or not well-funded about the vaccination must not be allowed to exist.
00:55:22.000Look, there's a group of people called ACIP, the doctors, usually with vaccine interests in their bank accounts, that make the recommendations for the vaccines.
00:55:35.000So if your doctor is following the ACIP program, you have to be offered that vaccine.
00:55:40.000And now that doctor, this is another part of the story, is that doctor is likely to lose $250,000 a year if they don't do that because there's incentive given to hospitals and doctors, which is what...
00:55:51.000Naively, I was on the other end of when I woke up in 2008 and said, wait a minute, why are we doing this stuff to my sick, inflamed patients?
00:56:37.000Well, that's been the case since basically the medical profession was infiltrated in the early 1900s by high-level interests that...
00:56:47.000Didn't want us thinking for ourselves and carrying on with the natural cures that actually work, carrying on with normal midwifery.
00:56:54.000There was just so many changes that happened as a result of best practice medicine, not to mention, you know, the forming of the AMA by a couple of real quacks.
00:57:40.000The reason why natural cures are so easily dismissed and why it's so dismissed, because Rockefeller put the entire medical establishment on oil-based...
00:59:32.000If you want to sneak vitamin C into somebody's hospital room, you know the best way to do it?
00:59:37.000Don't bring in a jar of vitamin C, because they will stop that at the door.
00:59:40.000You get yourself a McDonald's milkshake or a burger, and you just dump that milkshake out, and you put something else in there, a smoothie with some vitamin C, and they will say, off you go.
00:59:51.000That's going to be great for this person, this child.
00:59:53.000That's how you can get it in, because they think that McDonald's is wonderful.
00:59:56.000In fact, McDonald's are kind of situated proximal to a lot of hospitals.
01:00:00.000Ronald McDonald houses are there and everything else.
01:00:03.000But bring in a homeopathic or magnesium or vitamin C and you've got to get permission for it and go through so much red tape and a lot of time you'll be told, no, you can't give it because, oh, you'll cause bowel necrosis, you'll cause diarrhea, you'll cause kidney stones, everything in the book that doesn't actually happen with vitamin C. Look,
01:00:24.000they've measured vitamin C levels on people that enter hospitals, and pretty much everybody's deficient or on the border of deficient when they enter, and pretty much everybody when they leave has got borderline scurvy.
01:00:57.000Well, you know, it's not just the poor diet.
01:00:58.000So any kind of stress will consume vitamin C. A cigarette will consume 75 milligrams of vitamin C and they tell you We eat 190 milligrams a day.
01:01:22.000And we're reliant upon our fruits and vegetables or supplements.
01:01:26.000Or if you eat organ meat, you can eat the adrenals that are loaded with it.
01:01:29.000But aside from that, it's your fruits and vegetables that are going to give it to you.
01:01:33.000So if you're under a lot of stress or you're taking medication or you have a lot of inflammation or arthritis, whatever, that's going to consume vitamin C because vitamin C is an antioxidant as well as an antiviral and good for your nervous system.
01:01:47.000So, yeah, most people are walking around skimming the edge.
01:01:52.000You can see kind of a red line on some people's gums.
01:01:56.000If your gums are bleeding a lot when you floss, you probably need some vitamin C. And, you know, you could have an infection, too.
01:02:03.000But it will deal to the infection as well as the integrity and the collagen inside of your bones and your soft tissues.
01:02:08.000I mean, it's like one of those things that's so important it should be given upon admission to every hospital.
01:02:12.000And what's really crazy is if you're one of those people that thinks that all you need is a balanced diet and you're eating, like, a piece of chicken and some lettuce.
01:02:20.000Yeah. Like, there's no vitamin C in any of that.
01:03:58.000He's going to hate that you don't know who he is.
01:04:02.000But, you know, so today we've got inflamed guts from, you know, glyphosate and, you know, the wheat that's been altered to make us inflamed and then just the chemicals that are added to our food and the vitamins that actually don't help us and set us back that are fortifying our, you know, bread and milk and lack of vitamin D. So we have a different kind of a problem but essentially causing the same bodily dysfunction.
01:04:24.000Yeah, the wheat thing I used to think was nonsense until I ate pasta and bread in Italy.
01:04:31.000And I was like, okay, why do I feel so much better?
01:04:34.000Yeah. Why do I not feel like I just ate poison?
01:06:40.000And this goes back to when R.J. Reynolds was going through all their stuff with the lawsuits that were coming from people realizing, oh my god, cigarettes give you cancer?
01:06:49.000They're not good to, like, smoke if you have emphysema?
01:07:35.000The spike of COVID, which is the evil part of COVID, has all these horrible lab-engineered proteins encoded into them, and two of them are snake toxin proteins that bind onto your nicotinic receptors.
01:07:49.000So if you can smoke nicotine or take nicotine gum, then you're going to block those receptors up so you can trade off some of the stuff that's from the spike.
01:08:44.000I did a tour one time, and there were two.
01:08:46.000Heavy, heavy smokers on the bus with me, and they were the only two people that didn't come down with whatever flu all the rest of us got.
01:08:53.000Not even that flu couldn't even live in their throats.
01:08:57.000It kind of makes sense if you think about it.
01:09:00.000Well, it changes the polarity of your mucous membranes, the charge of the cells on your mucous membranes, and that's probably part of why even the viruses can't adhere properly.
01:09:23.000You know how many horrible carcinogens there are?
01:09:25.000Do you know back in the native days when they were smoking and people were smoking natural cigarettes, it was almost unheard of for them to develop lung cancer with a natural tobacco.
01:09:34.000American Spirit cigarettes are not healthier.
01:11:24.000I just wrote down SV40 while you were talking.
01:11:27.000And I'm just going to give you an example of what you're saying is correct.
01:11:31.000And the fact of the matter is that all cancers in humanity have gone up since the inception of vaccination.
01:11:36.000And my opinion, my educated opinion, is that our lifespan should be 120 years.
01:11:41.000And I think with the knowledge that we have and the wealth that we have on this planet, the ingenuity we have on this planet, we should be able to be touching the 120-year mark more commonly than we do.
01:12:15.000And the polio vaccine, even to this day, is made on African green monkey kidney cells.
01:12:22.000Now the African green monkey kidneys early on were basically taken out of their wild habitat in India, and millions of monkeys were brought to the USA for use.
01:12:32.000Unbeknownst to them, and discovered by a scientist named Dr. Bernice Eddy, is that there was a cancer-causing entity inside of the...
01:12:44.000The substrate that they were using to make the vaccine on the Petri dishes.
01:12:48.000And that entity was Simeon Virus 40 SV40, called SV40 because before there were 39 others discovered before it.
01:13:00.000Bernice Eddy was offered a ticket to wherever she wanted to go and as much money as she wanted, and she said, no, I'm staying.
01:13:05.000Long story short, they just kept taking her away from her work and distracting her, and there was another doctor, J. Anthony Morris, as well.
01:13:12.000Anyway, so SV-40 was around, and then Maurice Hilleman validated it later and said it came from the African green monkey kidneys.
01:13:19.000Now, it's benign in the African green monkey, SV-40.
01:13:25.000In human beings, it was called the perfect war machine by Dr. Dr. Michelle Carboni, who was one of the primary researchers looking at the carcinogenic potential of simian virus 40. So simian virus 40 would have been in the live polio vaccines because there was nothing to kill it, but it was most likely also in the killed.
01:13:43.000And African green monkey cells are actually still a listed ingredient on vaccines.
01:13:51.000So how this affects me is that I'm a kidney specialist, and I looked at the curve of kidney cancers that have gone up since the inception of polio vaccines and SV40 introduction.
01:14:05.000So what this virus does is it enhances two cancer-promoting genes, and it inhibits two cancer suppressors.
01:14:15.000Okay. That's why it's called the perfect war machine.
01:14:17.000So that was in the vaccines that were injected.
01:14:20.000And so the bad news is that we don't need vaccines to give it to us anymore because we're going to give it to each other forever and it's never going anywhere.
01:14:27.000That was introduced to humanity like a lot of other diseases were through vaccination.
01:14:51.000In terms of SV40 kidney cancers, there's no doubt that the rate of kidney cancers has gone up alongside with the...
01:14:58.000with the infection rate of humanity for SV40 as well as diseases like glomerulonephritis which they do find the pathogen Genetic material inside.
01:15:09.000And even in the old days, they found it in the tumors, but not the surrounding areas.
01:15:14.000So that just tells you that it was a stimulant for the tumor cells to just start propagating.
01:15:19.000So that's just one of the things that...
01:15:22.000That's just one of many, many of the obvious ones.
01:15:24.000And even though it's been well-defined in the medical literature, you will still see that they only admit that it causes mesotheliomas and one other thing, not that it causes all the other things that it does, that it's been shown to cause in the other medical literature.
01:15:40.000So SV40 is now contagious amongst people?
01:15:47.000Most of us probably have had it one time or other, you know, whether it's lying dormant in our kidneys.
01:15:53.000Everything depends on your background immunity, which depends on what you're doing for fun and not fun and how you're eating and how much you're sleeping, etc., how much sun you're getting, sweating.
01:16:26.000It's not going to make much difference in terms of it'll gravitate to your kidneys.
01:16:30.000Obviously, it probably goes to lung as well.
01:16:33.000Brain tumors were a big problem with it.
01:16:35.000Back in the polio days, Dr. Michelle Carboni was looking at the brain tumors with that.
01:16:41.000There's a really good book called The Virus and the Vaccine by Bookchin and Schumacher.
01:16:44.000It's an incredible book that details everything about those years, the scientists involved, the suppression, the oppression, the lies, the skullduggery.
01:16:53.000Then they would bring in the scientists who had no experience in actually detecting SV40, and lo and behold, he couldn't find it.
01:16:59.000And he was the one that got to make the ultimate statement on whether.
01:17:58.000Again, quote, Attorney Stanley Copps quote in the book about the SV40 still being in the stock up and through the 1990s.
01:18:07.000And, you know, God only knows if it's still...
01:18:10.000If they're still using those same stocks, I don't know, because I haven't gone into the more modern times of SV40.
01:18:16.000But yeah, we all have it, and there's no doubt in my mind that it's just like another one of the things that the parasites have finally pretty much put into us to set us back.
01:18:48.000You know, we started our own monkey colonies and we started breeding our own monkey colonies that were now found to be free of SV40.
01:18:54.000The only problem with that is that, as I said, they had already inoculated humanity.
01:18:59.000And it's with a virus that can be spread vertically and horizontally, as the scientists would describe, meaning we've all given it to each other.
01:19:07.000There are going to be very few people walking around today that haven't been introduced to it.
01:19:11.000Have there ever been a comparison of cancer rates pre-SV40 and post-SV40?
01:19:21.000And one of my videos, I did that and looked at the cancer rates since they were, you know, so again, what they'll say is, well, we just didn't look at the rates beforehand, but the rates were quite low before.
01:19:32.000You can know what the surgical, what the nephrectomies were.
01:19:35.000So it's kind of an easy thing to look at because that's the treatment for kidney cancer.
01:19:39.000You take the kidney out because you've got another kidney and it's a slow-growing tumor, even though it can metastasize.
01:20:00.000And also these protein-losing diseases, which is, again, it's not controversial.
01:20:04.000It was documented when they looked at the areas that were affected in the kidney with these horrible disease that makes people lose the proteins that need to stay in their blood, in their body, out into their urine, that the SV40 was related to that.
01:20:18.000It's called focal and segmental glomerulosclerosis, and it's a real problematic disease in children and adults.
01:20:24.000Ultimately, you have to go on horrible chemotherapy drugs that ruin your immune system and then transplant.
01:21:26.000Imagine if it was true that your government actually wasn't looking out for you and that might be one of the causes of your decreasing lifespan.
01:21:33.000Imagine that if the government might not care so much if your baby ends up with no stem cells or your baby gets cancer or autism, which will be outright...
01:21:46.000I don't even know where to start with that.
01:21:47.000But that was another thing where there was no doubt.
01:21:51.000Whether or not well-funded, allowed to exist, what came to autism.
01:21:55.000And every autistic parent, parent of an autistic child will tell you this.
01:21:59.000Everyone that's tried to lobby and get to the truth with autism will tell you that the brick walls and the plexiglass and the lead walls that went down were intense and still are intense.
01:22:10.000And the lying studies that they use to uphold vaccines don't cause autism are so easy to dismantle.
01:22:17.000But you know, Joe, you know, the lie gets around the earth three times before.
01:22:21.000Or the truth has a chance to get out of bed.
01:22:22.000And that's pretty much what happens when the media is owned.
01:22:27.000And you're like one of the cracks in the matrix here, quite frankly.
01:22:31.000I think for a lot of people it's too horrible to believe, especially if they have an autistic child, that this was caused by a vaccine.
01:22:39.000I know a guy who told me that he believes the vaccine had an impact on his child.
01:22:46.000Having autism and then later was shaming people for not taking the COVID vaccine.
01:22:52.000That's how strong the impulse is and that's how good the propaganda was.
01:22:59.000And that's how cowardly a lot of people are when it comes to fighting against a narrative.
01:23:05.000They get very scared of being socially ostracized, and they can't speak their mind.
01:23:10.000They can't tell the truth, and they'll whisper it to maybe this one guy that they're friends with, like, hey, you know, I don't want to take it, man, but I have to for work.
01:23:17.000Like, yeah, I don't trust them either.
01:23:18.000But, you know, shh, don't tell anybody I said that.
01:23:21.000You know, you don't want anybody thinking you're on the bad side.
01:23:23.000And we all saw the propaganda on television.
01:23:25.000There's some amazing montages that people put together.
01:23:29.000of people saying horrible things about the unvaccinated people.
01:24:16.000You know, you get a lot of people who they know they made a mistake and they want you to make that mistake too, you know?
01:24:21.000Yeah, it would be good to know what really goes through their heads.
01:24:23.000I think COVID was, again, it was unique.
01:24:26.000But when you talk to parents who have autistic children, the vast majority of them not only know absolutely without a doubt that their child became autistic, usually within 24 to 48 hours after a certain vaccine, but that every doctor told them it wasn't the case.
01:24:43.000And then they go digging deep into the scientific literature and learn how to sometimes resuscitate that child's brain or detox them and then recover them.
01:24:50.000And then they're actually beaten up even worse for doing that because they're just neurodiverse, you know.
01:24:57.000There's nothing wrong with your child.
01:24:59.000No, your child banging its head against the wall, walking around with a baby bottle and a diaper at the age of 18, your big hairy son doing that, that is not neurodiverse quirkiness.
01:25:08.000That is a serious pathological disease that probably could have been dealt to at the time and should have been prevented.
01:25:15.000So most parents that have that situation are on fire.
01:25:18.000It's a minority that will say, Have the situation that you have right now.
01:25:22.000Most of them, that's a wake-up call, which is why they get beat up and suppressed even worse than I do.
01:25:28.000But when it comes to COVID, the psychological campaign, I think, was very effective in that people that I would have never imagined took the jab, like friends of mine who I, in a million years, I would have bet my life that they would say no to it, ended up getting it, didn't want it, were really upset about it later, but nonetheless did it.
01:29:20.000They're proving that the infant will make antibody, and that's all they ever have to prove.
01:29:23.000What they don't ever want to prove is that when you give, like, say your child had gotten a COVID vaccine, there's something called original antigenic sin.
01:29:32.000They changed the term to linked epitope suppression.
01:29:49.000You are the one that's more likely to succumb to terrible problems from the infection than because of your vaccine rather than it actually protecting you.
01:30:00.000Morin's and Fauci wrote a paper basically admitting everything, I think it was in 2023 or 2024, about these shots.
01:30:07.000And he said the COVID shots are exactly the same as the flu shots.
01:30:10.000Despite that, despite Fauci and Morin's talking about how these shots would never have been licensed if they were held to the same standards of DPT, etc., etc., that they don't provide lung immunity, they only provide blood immunity, negative efficacy, their conclusion at the end of it is that we must make better vaccines, more effective vaccines, to add to the already existing vaccine program.
01:30:48.000Six-month-old babies with parents that are just like you back in the day going, okay, if you really think it's necessary because, oh, granny doesn't want to catch COVID, we're going to do it.
01:31:00.000But, you know, this is the Great Barrington Declaration, right?
01:31:03.000Where those guys were like, why don't we take the people that are vulnerable and isolate them and treat them and care for them and not worry so much about everybody else and not shut society down because it's going to have profound impacts.
01:31:21.000It's like during the censorship was so rampant that Prominent scientists and physicians were removed from the social conversation because they disagreed.
01:31:59.000I mean, there's this one guy named Pradhan, P-R-A-D-H-A-N, who he showed that there is a GP120 protein on the spike.
01:32:10.000And he said it was an uncanny similarity to the GP120 and HIV, and that there was no way that that would have come out of nowhere and showed up in the 2019 COVID epidemic.
01:32:21.000And he showed genetically how that just couldn't possibly happen.
01:32:25.000A flurry of emails went through the CDC and to NIAD and to Fauci, and within six days of that paper being in preprint, it was removed.
01:32:41.000But that was the series of events that happened with that, because any doubts whether or not well-founded.
01:32:48.000All the things you said about the COVID vaccine, I'm sure, are correct and true.
01:32:52.000But isn't it also different than the vaccine that they used in the test?
01:32:57.000Yes. The vaccine that was produced for the general public, I believe at least when it comes to Pfizer, they used magnetic beads for purification, which was totally different to what they did for the one they gave to us.
01:33:12.000And they produced it using, I can't remember exactly how they produced it, but they didn't use plasmids and they didn't use all the different...
01:33:23.000I have a slide on that somewhere that I could show you about.
01:33:26.000There were two aspects of the test vaccine that were very different.
01:33:30.000It was both the production, how they produced it, and how they, quote, purified it.
01:33:36.000And what's the significance of the differences?
01:33:42.000They wouldn't have had the lipopolysaccharide with the DNA from the E. coli that was in there that they told would never get past our deltoid muscle and would be disintegrated.
01:33:51.000Well, lipopolysaccharide actually is a transit protein that can bring everything right through your cells.
01:33:57.000Our cells are made of, it's like a lipid on the outside.
01:34:00.000So that was the whole purpose, was to shuttle this into your cells.
01:34:16.000And pseudouridine was put in there because they didn't want the immune system to destroy the vaccine too quickly.
01:34:22.000They wanted it to really be able to take hold of your body so you could have a strong response.
01:34:26.000Well, that's one of the reasons why vaccinated people had such, you know, horrible time with actual coronavirus when it did come.
01:34:34.000And one of the reasons why you didn't, maybe you were exposed.
01:34:37.000I don't know if you've had an antibody level tested.
01:34:40.000But again, that's another long history thing is people who don't get sick while everyone else is have been accused of witchcraft and sorcerers in the past and sometimes hunted down and killed.
01:34:51.000In the times of smallpox, the groups of people that were into cleanliness, that was a real problem for them.
01:34:58.000I did do nasal swabs to see if I had any antibodies.
01:35:11.000The one that goes to the rapid antigen test.
01:35:13.000But that's only going to tell you if you've got active in your nose.
01:35:17.000What you want to know is if your immune system...
01:35:18.000Again, there's a good use for antibodies sometimes.
01:35:21.000It's not the end-all and be-all in terms of your immunity, but it will show that you have had an experience inside of your body with COVID.
01:35:29.000What was bizarre to me was that there was this...
01:35:32.000There was this narrative that you were going to get it no matter what.
01:35:36.000And this will stop it from you getting it.
01:35:38.000Yeah. Well, this is before the vaccine was even around.
01:35:41.000There was this talk that there's no way to not get it.
01:35:46.000Like, if it's around you, it's so contagious, you're going to get it.
01:35:49.000And that's why I was shocked that I didn't get it when my whole family got it.
01:36:23.000I was like, okay, I guess I didn't get it.
01:36:24.000And then everyone in my family recovered.
01:36:27.000And then I went from there to a couple months later, I was doing this gig in Florida.
01:36:35.000I was up with my friend John Shoman, who makes pool cues.
01:36:39.000Shout out to John, good friend of mine.
01:36:41.000And we were playing pool until like 5 o'clock in the morning.
01:36:43.000And I had like five margaritas, and we were having a good old time and laughing a lot.
01:36:47.000And then that night I was like, oh, I don't feel so good.
01:36:52.000But it was alcohol and no sleep and playing pool and, you know, and big shows and giant arenas and flying on jets and being tired all the time.
01:37:23.000You're supposed to be fearful, you know.
01:37:24.000Yeah. It was a shocking time for me because before that, I never would have guessed in a million years that I would be even questioning other vaccines.
01:37:55.000I read your book, and I started reading Turtles All the Way Down, which...
01:37:59.000Also, which is really interesting because they wrote another book called Turtles All the Way Down and someone else published it that has almost the identical cover.
01:39:01.000Like, you know, when I was first waking up, I had a friend who had unvaccinated kids that were part of a Steiner school.
01:39:06.000And they were like mutant freaks to me because they'd never been on an antibiotic.
01:39:09.000They were like bright and happy and interactive and talented.
01:39:15.000At one point, one of them was playing with a hammer and nail and I said to her mother, I was like, you've got to be careful because she doesn't have a tetanus vaccine.
01:39:22.000And someone in the room said, well, Suzanne, what do you know about tetanus?
01:39:26.000And like in my head, I'm a full-fledged doctor at this point.
01:39:29.000I thought, I don't know anything about tetanus.
01:39:31.000And outside I said, I know you don't want to get it and I know it'll cause lockjaw.
01:39:35.000And then I started reading about tetanus and I had to go back and, you know, kind of...
01:39:40.000I have a big video out on tetanus and the actual truth about the tetanus vaccines and actual tetanus, which, you know, that's even harder for most people.
01:39:48.000Like most people who don't want to vaccinate their kids, they'll vaccinate for tetanus if they can get a single shot and second only to polio.
01:39:54.000Everybody's got their two vaccines, their two diseases they're afraid of for their kid that makes them feel like they're at least doing something.
01:40:00.000Well, the polio one always gets thrown in my face.
01:40:35.000You know, in New York, in that incidence I told you about where the vaccine, the gain-of-function strain escaped, people were throwing their cats out the window.
01:40:45.000Some 20,000 cats in New York City were killed during that time.
01:41:27.000Look, I was living in a country where the government said there's no cure for COVID, there's no treatment for it, and there is no prevention for it except a vaccine.
01:41:38.000That there was a contract between the government and the pharmaceutical industry to have the emergency use of the vaccine trial on the population only under the condition that there's no other treatment available.
01:41:51.000And that's why the treatments were shut down.
01:41:54.000Yeah. Because emergency use, there has to be no other treatment available.
01:41:57.000If you have ivermectin or if you have zinc and all the other things that we use with success, you know, there were so many people that I treated that should have been dead.
01:42:05.000I gave COVID to a 95-year-old woman who had chronic lung disease called bronchiectasis.
01:42:11.000She should have been the low-hanging fruit.
01:42:13.000I was starting to feel a little bit unhappy one day, really just sluggish like you mentioned.
01:42:18.000And when I was done seeing her, she goes, I just want to give you a hug.
01:42:20.000And she came over and I was going, oh, no.
01:42:23.000And after about three days, I was like, I definitely got it.
01:42:58.000So he survived the entire thing and died like two years later of something else.
01:43:03.000The most shocking aspect of getting...
01:43:11.000any interest in why I recovered so quickly because if this is supposed to be this death sentence and there's no treatment and then I'm a guy in my 50s and I got over it quick and then no one cared at all about that all they wanted to do is mock this idea that I was taking veterinary medicine right But it was just the fact that they use that term horse dewormer on every TV show.
01:43:40.000Like, wow, this is, it's wild to watch the machine.
01:43:43.000It's uniquely wild when it's coming after you.
01:43:46.000And you're like, but this is like such a dumb checkers play.
01:44:30.000Enormous gaslighting experience that we all just went through, where people are finally, after four years, apologizing to friends, you know, for calling them a plague rat.
01:44:40.000You know, like, literally, they got down to that, where friends couldn't be friends with people anymore because they weren't vaccinated.
01:44:47.000And people are kind of, like, realizing, like, oh, my God, not only did I get COVID more than anybody else.
01:45:50.000There's real science behind all the things you talk about in your book in terms of the nutritional aspects of healthy foods being an important factor in your immune system.
01:46:04.000We were talking about juices and vegetable juices and all the different times that it's helped people overcome certain diseases.
01:46:12.000Vitamin A and cod liver oil, which also has vitamin A, which was always prescribed to people that were sick.
01:46:17.000All these things, this is real science.
01:46:20.000There's real science in nutritional supplementation and the effects that it has on the immune system.
01:46:24.000And there's real science in nutritional deficiencies and what a negative impact it has.
01:46:30.000And if they truly cared about you, they would be telling you about that as a primary way of defending your body against disease and against all sorts of things.
01:47:25.000Yeah, it could be because you still got your teenagers and your young college students that are in sports and things like that.
01:47:31.000A lot of older people are— You'd hope they would qualify.
01:47:33.000Yeah, but a lot of people, like, you know, even though they have a hard job, they still realize, like, I got to go to the gym before work and just get it in because if I don't, I won't have any energy.
01:48:31.000That's written by a supplement company.
01:48:33.000Yeah, and what supplements and how, you know, sometimes you can overdo.
01:48:36.000You do a hair mineral analysis on people and sometimes you find things that are, you know, pretty shocking in terms of that came from supplements, you know.
01:48:47.000Sure. You can end up with big problems.
01:48:49.000There's also a problem with cross-contamination.
01:48:52.000One of the things that we found out when we were selling AlphaBrain is that in the beginning when we would hire a lab to make the formula for us, like so you have like a list of ingredients and then they put together this thing which is a nootropic.
01:49:08.000We'd find stuff in there that we didn't have in there.
01:49:42.000We're talking about adults here, presumably, but one of the facts is that the foundation that your immune system is created and developed in is probably, if not as more important than that, and that is...
01:50:00.000Being born, vaginal birth versus a C-section.
01:50:03.000Not putting down people who've had C-section.
01:50:05.000I'm just saying the science shows that there is a distinct difference in C-section babies' immune systems versus non-C-section.
01:50:14.000There's a distinct difference in breastfed babies versus non-breastfed.
01:50:18.000And there's a distinct difference in babies whose mothers have a healthy diet and breastfeed versus mothers who don't have a healthy diet and breastfeed.
01:50:24.000So that foundation actually makes your gut grow normally, which is a large part of your immune system.
01:50:29.000It colonizes your gut because the bacteria from your mother's gut goes into your gut, goes from her gut through her lymph system into her breast and then to your gut.
01:50:38.000And so all that foundational stuff is something not to be ignored because it's going to make you deal with diseases better.
01:50:44.000And if you have to get vaccinated, it's going to make you deal with vaccines better even as a child.
01:50:48.000Not that I'm in favor of that, but I'm just saying if you want to set things up as...
01:50:52.000You know, solidly as possible to be able to take that insult.
01:50:55.000The problem is we don't know 20, 30, 40 years later what the associations are between, you know, bone diseases, skin diseases, cancers, autoimmune diseases.
01:51:05.000I have some clues that nobody wants to look at.
01:51:07.000But we've got this long-term problem that nobody looks at.
01:51:11.000Long-term effects of lifestyle, of vaccination, of even SV40.
01:51:16.000There was one study that started tracking 1,000 SV40 people that they knew were infected with SV40 looking for diseases later in life, and they stopped it after 19 years.
01:52:15.000I left because, like, my soul just couldn't hang out there anymore.
01:52:19.000And so during that time – Even though I was kind of ostracized behind my back, everybody still respected me as a nephrologist, but I still had to go.
01:52:27.000And in that time, I started doing public appearances, like I went on the Gary Null show and started doing things like that, just talking about smallpox and polio, because those were my focus, because everyone's saying, what about smallpox?
01:52:44.000So I was morbidly fascinated by the whole thing and about how everything I found was absolutely contrary to what the...
01:52:51.000And what I had was a mountain, you know, pile high to the ceiling, and they had soundbites.
01:52:57.000They had nothing to fight back with me on.
01:52:59.000Nothing. So this guy named Roman Bistrianic heard me on the radio show, and he rung my office.
01:53:07.000And after his third call, I was like, I guess I better call this guy back.
01:53:12.000And he had this idea for a book, and he had done all the charts and the graphics and started writing the narrative around that of what the historical documents showed.
01:53:21.000And then I came in as kind of the medical person that was obsessed with polio and smallpox and happened to know quite a bit about pertussis.
01:53:27.000So we started writing the book together, and there's probably about...
01:53:31.000There's got to be, if you were to take a full-time job, 20 years, at least 20 years.
01:53:35.000But for me, it was condensed because I became obsessed after I quit my job.
01:54:19.000We didn't talk about this, but all the vaccine companies had a problem with live virus in their injectable vaccines during Salk's year.
01:54:28.000So 1954, 1955, up to 1959, they all were producing vaccine with live virus in it because Salk wouldn't listen to the scientists abroad who were saying his inactivation curve was...
01:55:54.000That's the difference between me and these other people, is that if I made a mistake, I want to know about it, and I will go and make it right, and I will publicly admit that I made a mistake.
01:56:01.000But I will say that 99.9% of what's in this book is true, factual, and provable.
01:59:19.000I come in first, I tell my story, and then they bring in the experts who are able to take, without me being in the room, of course, because I can't be able to defend myself, and then let the public believe that everything I said was just one big sack of lies.
01:59:30.000Well, they'll definitely be the usual suspects that'll be doing that.
01:59:34.000But has anyone ever tried to sit down with you and have a conversation publicly about this?
02:00:01.000If somebody wanted to debate me in writing, I would be happy to do that because then I could sit there and take my time, go through the references that I needed rather than having to, you know.
02:01:59.000Like, if their product is so wonderful that everybody needs it so badly, then why is there such a...
02:02:04.000What they say is that we're too stupid to understand how they're saving our lives and how they...
02:02:08.000This is one of the big arguments that we really ought to touch on, is that they say that our lifespan has improved as a result of medical interventions.
02:02:15.000When what we show in here, what other scientists have shown, is that...
02:02:19.000It's about 3.5% of the contribution from medicine goes into our extended lifespan.
02:02:29.0003.5% based on antibiotics, vaccines, etc.
02:02:32.000The rest of it was all about the revolution, the health revolution, the clean water, the shelter, the electricity, the child labor laws, you know, ending.
02:02:41.000So, you know, the magic of medicine is not what people think, and it really traps a lot of people.
02:02:56.000Like, my Hippocratic oath said that I should consult, you know, any consultant that will help my patient and keep the well-being of my patient stable.
02:03:04.000Well, to me, that includes, you know, using every therapy that is as...
02:03:08.000The most benign therapies possible first.
02:03:11.000The ones that work along with the blueprint of a human body, that go along with the theory of health rather than pounding down disease.
02:03:18.000You're always going to get a better result that way, assuming you've got time and, you know, you haven't waited until the last minute.
02:03:24.000Well, you certainly will get a better result if you do get the disease that way.
02:03:27.000Like, the idea that you could just ignore everything but a medication is so silly.
02:03:32.000And the only reason why you would do that is if that's the only way you made your money.
02:03:37.000And that's really – especially if you're in the vaccine business and you have an enormous ad budget and you're sponsoring all the television networks.
02:04:14.000He published an article about what he called toxic nodular enterocolitis in children with autism.
02:04:21.000He was a gastroenterologist, a very high-level, very well-respected, decorated gastroenterologist.
02:04:26.000And he published this paper, which remained in a journal for 12 years.
02:04:30.000And all it said at the end was further research needs to be done in order to see if there is any real connection between the MMR vaccine, autism, and toxic.
02:04:44.000And so he was about to publish another paper showing that in this certain type of monkeys that were vaccinated against hepatitis B lost a lot of their reflexes and had problems.
02:04:54.000And it was on the eve of the publication of that paper that his original paper was revoked.
02:04:59.000And ever since then, he has been the poster child for vaccine nonsense, for anti-vax crazy people.
02:05:06.000And in fact, every time I've done anything, his name, funny that I brought his name up.
02:07:45.000But since then, the rate of shingles in adults and children has skyrocketed because we're no longer getting...
02:07:49.000We're getting our boosters being exposed to the circulating microbes.
02:07:54.000So now the solution to that is to give adults like four times the dose of the childhood chickenpox in an injectable vaccine against something that they already have.
02:08:03.000And so the theory is that you're going to ramp up your antibodies and then you're going to be able to do battle if your viruses come out again.
02:08:11.000The only problem with that is that the problem is the immune system.
02:08:14.000If you get AIDS or you're on chemotherapy, your chances of that happening are really high.
02:08:21.000But I just don't think it's just, to me, just a completely strange concept to inject myself with something that I already have, along with all the other excipients and compounds that go in a vaccine that nobody wants to talk about either.
02:08:33.000So can you explain how a vaccine is manufactured?
02:08:37.000Like, how could they not know all the different stuff that's in it?
02:08:51.000You need some sort of tissue from a living creature in order to grow these things.
02:08:56.000Well, in terms of the COVID vaccine, you just needed a pile of crap, actually, because it's made on E. coli cells, and that's where you find E. coli.
02:09:03.000So with a lot of the other vaccines, you do need living.
02:09:06.000Like for tetanus, you need rotten meat.
02:09:09.000Okay? That's how the tetanus vaccine is made with rotten meat.
02:09:12.000You were talking about tetanus earlier, and you kind of glossed over it, but you didn't finish up.
02:09:16.000You were saying that tetanus itself, you started like Googling and like reading about tetanus itself.
02:09:23.000Yeah. Yeah, a big wake-up call with tetanus.
02:09:26.000So, you know, what we see, if anyone's worried about tetanus, what we're shown is a picture of a soldier from, like, the 1800s.
02:09:44.000You're just going to get tetanus and you're going to die.
02:09:46.000Well, the fact of the matter is that when I started doing my deep dive...
02:09:49.000In World War I, look, it was fought in the trenches with horses.
02:09:52.000That's where you get tetanus from ruminant animals.
02:09:54.000It lives in their gut, then it goes in the soil, and it's just a spore.
02:09:57.000It doesn't do anything until it gets into an area that doesn't have oxygen.
02:10:01.000So you get a cut, you get a surgeon to close you up real nice without cleaning it out properly, and you're a setup for tetanus, which will transform from a spore to a different kind of a microbe and start releasing a toxin that can, it first starts as numb, numbness, usually in that limb.
02:10:19.000The extreme case is in that soldier who would have been malnourished, stressed out, probably vaccinated for smallpox before he hit the fields.
02:10:28.000Exposed to enormous amounts of tetanus, possibly gunshot wound or a slice somewhere, and then sewn up.
02:10:34.000So yeah, his nervous system could have had a real big dose of toxin and nobody did anything about it.
02:10:53.000Rabbit studies have shown that if you give vitamin C, if you have a good high vitamin C level before you put glass with tetanus spores on it inside the skin of a rabbit, that you can prevent the tetanus from happening.
02:11:05.000Even if you give the vitamin C at the time of the injury, you can prevent it from happening.
02:11:09.000If you give it after the event, the death rate goes down to, you know, very, very low, if not zero.
02:11:14.000So vitamin C is a main factor, but the biggest factor is cleaning a wound and keeping the wound open if you think it's a dirty wound.
02:11:22.000Close it straight up, which is why nails, you say stepping on a nail is the classic because rust can kind of hold the old spores inside of it.
02:11:30.000You step on the nail, you get inoculated, and then you wait for it to heal over.
02:11:34.000You have to open that wound if that's going to happen.
02:11:39.000There's a whole series of reports on instances where the cotton that was made for menstrual pads for women postpartum was impregnated with tetanus and they got horrible cases of...
02:11:51.000So the hospital systems have also been, you know, responsible.
02:11:57.000The biggest thing is that being vaccinated for tetanus is not necessarily security against not getting tetanus.
02:12:04.000Now, am I telling people not to go get vaccinated or not?
02:12:07.000Every vaccine, there's so much more to the story that should be considered.
02:12:12.000You can have different strains of tetanus.
02:12:14.000And if you're living on a field that has ruminant animals, you will be, whether you like it or not, you're going to be eating whatever's down in that field.
02:12:20.000And you're going to be inoculated and have antibody and probably cell-mediated immunity against it.
02:12:26.000So you'll already have some immunity to that.
02:12:29.000So worst case scenario is you have no immunity.
02:12:31.000You go get a dirty wound and you don't get any real competent medical care for it.
02:12:36.000Yeah, you can end up having a problem with tetanus.
02:12:39.000Whether you're not going to have locked jaw and an arched back and die, unlikely today for that to happen.
02:12:47.000Most tetanus that happens is delayed onset.
02:12:50.000So the earlier your symptoms come on, the worse the tetanus is going to be.
02:12:53.000If it comes on later, generally, the better you're going to do.
02:12:57.000Treated with high doses of magnesium, high doses of vitamin C, local wound care, that's the best thing that you can do.
02:13:03.000Up to you if you want to go get jabbed for tetanus after you learn everything about it.
02:13:07.000Everything's on my Odyssey channel, by the way, because I got canceled out of YouTube for talking about vitamin C of all things.
02:15:02.000Like Roman keeps, because he does all the accounting, and he says we just have a good amount of steady sales, and once in a while we'll see.
02:15:08.000Like every time you mentioned the book, we had a little blip on it.
02:15:10.000During COVID, every time Bill Gates comes out and says something stupid, we have a big surge in our sales.
02:15:15.000So they actually help us when they say, you know, if we vaccinate enough people, we can help depopulate.
02:15:22.000It's like, okay, and for whatever reason, our book sales go up.
02:15:25.000Well, when he starts talking about vaccine deniers and vaccine skeptics, whenever they started doing that and the language that they would use was – like when the president was saying, our patience is wearing thin.
02:15:37.000We've been patient with you, but our patience is wearing thin.
02:15:40.000And the White House prints this thing that if you're vaccinated, you did your job.
02:15:45.000But for those unvaccinated, you're looking forward to a – what did they say?
02:16:14.000Fictional scenarios where there could be pandemics and terroristic depositions of toxins and chemicals and microbes that were manipulated in a lab.
02:16:25.000And then who in our society is going to respond and how they're going to respond, like the CDC and DARPA and the news outlets are always up.
02:16:35.000Utmost importance is the news outlets and the messaging that goes to the news outlets and these tabletop exercises.
02:16:40.000But Dark Winter was one that was a tabletop exercise after the World Trade Center thing when we were pointing our fingers at Iraq and weapons of mass destruction and a Russian scientist that, you know, had...
02:16:52.000Weaponized smallpox and brought it to Iraq, which they never found, by the way.
02:16:56.000But because of that, that's why I was asked to get vaccinated for smallpox in 2003, was that dark winter, that dark winter thing that was going on.
02:17:03.000Thank God there were a few people in the CDC and consultants, old guys, the old guys with integrity that knew the deal from the old days, who were saying, wait a minute, smallpox is not easily transmitted.
02:17:20.000It's treatable, and the vaccine doesn't necessarily prevent it.
02:17:25.000And so that was kind of one of the things that stalled it all out.
02:17:28.000But then they did the study on the Marines, because part of the exercises are we must do tests for the new vaccine.
02:17:34.000They used the old vaccine, the Dryvax.
02:17:37.000And there were lots of problems with those military people.
02:17:40.000And then I was asked to sign a 63-page informed consent.
02:17:47.000Basically saying that I understood all the problems that could happen to me, that I didn't have little kids in my life, that I wasn't going to be able to spread it.
02:17:53.000I would isolate after I got the vaccine.
02:17:55.000So they were ultra careful about this one because they knew they were dealing with something that could get a very bad reputation.
02:18:02.000The reason they ultimately canceled it is because...
02:18:05.000Any doubts whether or not whale funded must not be allowed to exist.
02:18:08.000Because if we were saying, oh my gosh, we have this terrible smallpox vaccine, how did they do it back then?
02:18:12.000We have the same vaccine and people are getting really sick and dying and having cardiomyopathies.
02:18:47.000COVID was an absolute nightmare in terms of obstetrics, gynecology, labor and delivery.
02:18:52.000A lot of midwives that got done because they didn't get vaccinated.
02:18:56.000They don't even want to go back now that they can go back because they don't want to have their good reputations of 100% of, you know.
02:19:03.000Normal births dealing with what's being dealt with today in terms of the birth problems that are happening because of the actual vaccine itself.
02:19:12.000Look, if it causes problems and blood clots in our circulation, what do you think it's going to do to a placenta that is pretty much all blood vessel?
02:19:20.000It's like a big blood vessel sandwich is what it is.
02:19:24.000And there was no studies that showed that it was safe to give to pregnant women, but yet they were saying that.
02:19:29.000Well, look, every influenza vaccine package insert says it's never been tested for carcinogenicity or mutagenicity in pregnant women, yet it's recommended every year for every pregnant woman and every time they get pregnant or not.
02:20:03.000There's no debate needed because the likes of me are so crazy and whacked out and I'm trying to destroy the good order of the general public.
02:22:16.000Look, in order to make tetanus immune globulin, which is another option, say you have a cut and your magic tetanus shot doesn't work right away, then you can get an immune globulin injection that came from somebody who has had tetanus.
02:22:31.000Usually these are people who have actually had tetanus, not who have been...
02:22:34.000And one of the donors that's in the literature that I use is somebody who has had natural tetanus despite having several vaccines.
02:22:42.000So no, the tetanus vaccine is not a guarantee against...
02:23:22.000Some people get open-heart surgery, and because they get infections, I've seen this happen.
02:23:26.000They just leave everything open and let it fill in on its own.
02:23:29.000You end up with a big scar, but they're still alive because the infection was able to heal.
02:23:36.000What is it like to have your entire view of medical history do a 180?
02:23:59.000Like, what is it like to be a practicing doctor?
02:24:02.000And someone who never would have imagined this until you faced these forces trying to get you vaccinated.
02:24:10.000It's kind of exciting, actually, because during my medical residency, like towards the end of it, I was like, I just thought one day, I'm not a healer.
02:24:57.000I've been liberated from a prison, essentially, from a stupid prison where my brain was locked down and I was told what to do and how to do it and then watching the results.
02:25:07.000It would be one thing if the results were good, okay?
02:25:19.000So I really love being able to now have the freedom to look at the full human being and their physiology.
02:25:27.000And look at them as an electromagnetic entity that has some chemicals and vitamins and help them direct their body back towards the blueprint that it was designed upon.
02:25:37.000And that's, to me, what real healing and real medicine is about.
02:25:40.000It's not about being anti-antibiotic, anti-this, anti-that.
02:25:56.000You create salt levels in your blood that stimulates your skin immune system, which is a separate entity.
02:26:01.000I didn't know any of this when I was a conventionally practicing doctor.
02:26:06.000I wanted to detoxify mercury out of my patients in order to lower their blood pressure, and I was told that that was not allowed.
02:26:13.000It's like, well, then I don't want to do this anymore because I know from a hair mineral analysis and from a chelation test that that person is burdened with aluminum and mercury.
02:26:22.000And I know that both of those things can raise blood pressure.
02:26:25.000So why wouldn't we want to remove that?
02:26:27.000The same reason we're not allowed to save vaccines.
02:26:30.000You know what a multibillion-dollar industry blood pressure treatment is and cholesterol treatment is?
02:27:18.000And doctors still need to keep learning.
02:27:21.000But most conventional doctors are mandated to keep learning, but they're told where they can read to get their credits every year.
02:27:28.000You can only get your credits from reading this and answering the questions like a good little doggie every year, which I still have to do.
02:27:36.000But beyond that, when I have my own spare time, you know, like I've learned ozone therapy.
02:27:41.000I've learned how to use vitamin C. I've learned how to look at the body electromagnetically and use bioresonance.
02:27:46.000And there's just so much stuff you can do that really helps people and keeps them out of a whole bunch of trouble that they would have gotten into if they went and took allergy medicines and got their tonsils out or kept on their blood pressure medications and let the inflammation go wild in their body and didn't know anything about how to dampen.
02:28:02.000Look, most disease comes from inflammation.
02:28:04.000You know, cholesterol is trying to save you.
02:30:09.000I listened to it in my car, too, and I listened to it in the sauna.
02:30:14.000It's one of those books that you kind of have to go over it a couple of times just to sort of digest it and go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait, hold on.
02:30:26.000Apple cider vinegar they were using to stop people from getting smallpox?
02:30:32.000Like, doctors were saying that they were treating people with smallpox and they didn't worry about getting it because they were consuming apple cider vinegar multiple times a day.
02:30:44.000Even today, apple cider vinegar, you know, it's had a big resurgence in terms of, you know, keeping your gut pH nice and low so that you can digest your food better, which has downstream effects to everything, but it's also a fermented product.
02:31:56.000And then we have hard-to-find vaccination tragedies, Royal Commission on Vaccination, timeline, and then we have rare documents at the back that has, like, the Encyclopedia Britannica, where they hired a very highly decorated, well-known, highly respected doctor to write a chapter on smallpox.
02:32:14.000And at the end, when he did what I did and basically looked at all the facts, he decimated the vaccine completely.
02:32:20.000So you can't really find that very easily anymore.
02:32:23.000So this one is called The Companion Book to Dissolving Illusions.
02:32:28.000We've been translated into eight languages.
02:32:30.000We're about to be translated into Chinese.
02:32:33.000But the best resource is dissolvingillusions.com and it will show you what your options for purchase and where you can purchase the different books.
02:32:40.000We have an alternative press for those people that don't want to do Amazon.
02:32:46.000So, yeah, and all the different languages and the different versions are on there.