The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2304 - Gary Brecka

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00:00:12.000 Good to see you, my friend.

00:00:15.000 Wow, that was fast.

00:00:15.000 Good to see you too, brother.

00:00:16.000 That's how I do it.

00:00:17.000 We just get right into it.

00:00:18.000 You got notes, dude.

00:00:19.000 You're organized.

00:00:20.000 You're a rare guest.

00:00:21.000 I actually, you know, I normally don't bring notes, but I was talking to Callie Means on the way over here.

00:00:26.000 And, you know, we're really supporting Bobby Kennedy's whole Maha, you know, movement and trying to officially put a committee together to really give him some great talking points and then bring some of the big influencers together to help him message, you know, around the media.

00:00:40.000 And I was like, what are some of the wins that we've had in the last week that I don't know about?

00:00:44.000 And so he just rattled them off.

00:00:45.000 There's some wins?

00:00:46.000 What are the wins?

00:00:47.000 Well, I mean, you know, so Trump formed this Strong Kids Commission.

00:00:51.000 And if you remember when he first got into office, he actually, by executive order, he authorized Bobby to...

00:00:59.000 To do a study with Health and Human Services to look into the genesis of chronic disease.

00:01:04.000 Because nobody's talking about it at the National Institute of Health or National Library of Medicine or in our public health policy.

00:01:11.000 Nobody's talking about what's causing this pandemic.

00:01:14.000 Gee, I wonder why they're not talking about it.

00:01:16.000 Well, I could give you a couple of clues.

00:01:18.000 Do you think money has anything to do with it?

00:01:19.000 No way.

00:01:21.000 You're a conspiracy theorist, dude.

00:01:23.000 You're down the rabbit hole.

00:01:24.000 That's my problem.

00:01:25.000 You think that just because people get paid, they do things that are shady.

00:01:29.000 Yeah, I know.

00:01:30.000 That's a weird thing to think.

00:01:30.000 I should stop thinking that way.

00:01:32.000 Yeah, I mean, we make $110 billion a year on type 2 diabetes.

00:01:36.000 They're trying to put that out of business for sure, right?

00:01:38.000 Yeah, they don't want that money.

00:01:39.000 No, no, no.

00:01:40.000 They're like, hey, Stan, how do we get this off the balance sheet, bro?

00:01:42.000 How do we get rid of it?

00:01:43.000 This is stinking up the place.

00:01:44.000 So there's a business that relies on people being so disgusting that they get type 2 diabetes.

00:01:51.000 So bad with their diet, just eating pie and drinking soda until their body just starts to cave in.

00:01:58.000 Yeah, but don't worry.

00:01:59.000 But that's worth how much a year?

00:02:01.000 $110 billion, type 2 diabetes alone.

00:02:04.000 That's not a lot of money.

00:02:04.000 It's not like that would change anybody's opinions on things.

00:02:06.000 Well, I mean, a lot of people could live on that.

00:02:08.000 There's a lot of people that could live on that.

00:02:12.000 Isn't that funny?

00:02:13.000 A lot of people could live on what's killing other people.

00:02:15.000 Yeah. Isn't that funny?

00:02:16.000 Like, a lot of people are buying yachts on what is killing people.

00:02:20.000 Yeah, so the interesting thing is, you know, look at our food stamp program, which is...

00:02:25.000 You know, the SNAP program.

00:02:26.000 It's one of the biggest subsidies that we have in the government.

00:02:29.000 $120 billion a year.

00:02:31.000 $10 billion of that is going to subsidize sodas.

00:02:34.000 Well, they need soda.

00:02:36.000 It's a part of the food pyramid, I think.

00:02:39.000 Isn't it in there?

00:02:40.000 It's right up there with Lucky Charms, right?

00:02:42.000 Yeah, Lucky Charms is right above ground beef. 0.71

00:02:45.000 Yep, and grass-fed steak.

00:02:46.000 And then you get to the top and you've got soda.

00:02:49.000 So it's just phenomenal.

00:02:50.000 And then the American Heart Association just...

00:02:54.000 Ironically comes out in favor of soda in the snack food program.

00:02:58.000 We went over that and we found out that they're paid by Pepsi and by Coca-Cola.

00:03:05.000 Wow. It's just so dark.

00:03:06.000 Yeah. It's so crazy.

00:03:09.000 It is.

00:03:09.000 The American Heart Association gets money from Coca-Cola and Pepsi.

00:03:12.000 Yeah, you know, I checked into my Airbnb here in Austin, which, by the way, love Austin, man.

00:03:18.000 I see why you came here.

00:03:19.000 We covered it all on my podcast, so I won't go down that rabbit hole.

00:03:22.000 But it truly is, man.

00:03:23.000 People are amazing.

00:03:25.000 Food is amazing.

00:03:26.000 Went to this little restaurant called The Well, which I love, and they catered all my food.

00:03:29.000 But there's like a serious wellness vibe here.

00:03:32.000 A lot of healthy people.

00:03:33.000 Yeah, a lot of healthy people.

00:03:37.000 I go into the closet, like the owner's closet wasn't locked.

00:03:41.000 And I went into the owner's closet.

00:03:42.000 Of course, it's like all Cheerios and cookies and crackers.

00:03:44.000 And I pulled a couple of bottles of these seed oils out.

00:03:47.000 And I did a little post about it because I was like, look at all the heart-healthy labels on this.

00:03:53.000 And we talked about seed oils last time.

00:03:56.000 And I get attacked a lot for it, for saying that these polyunsaturated fatty acids are bad for you.

00:04:01.000 But a lot of times, it's actually not the...

00:04:04.000 The plant itself, it's the distance from the plant to the table.

00:04:07.000 Right. Can you explain, because you were explaining the other day to us the process that it takes to turn rapeseed oil, which is what canola is.

00:04:17.000 Canola oil, Joe.

00:04:19.000 They decided that rapeseed was problematic, so they changed the canola oil.

00:04:24.000 I always thought it was corn oil.

00:04:26.000 Corn's good for you.

00:04:27.000 Corn oil must be great for you.

00:04:28.000 Oh, we're using canola oil.

00:04:30.000 Cool. Ah, peanuts.

00:04:31.000 Please explain, though, the process, because it's so vile.

00:04:35.000 It's insane.

00:04:36.000 So rapeseed, canola, is a plant.

00:04:42.000 Essentially, you put it in a commercial press, and it will come out gummy.

00:04:46.000 And so to degum it, you use something called hexane.

00:04:49.000 And hexane, if you go to the National Institute of Health or National Library of Medicine, you'll see that that is a known neurotoxin.

00:04:55.000 It's classified as a neurotoxin.

00:04:56.000 Same as fluoride, right?

00:04:57.000 Which is actually fluorosilicic acid.

00:04:59.000 We'll get to that later.

00:05:01.000 So we degum it with hexane.

00:05:03.000 And then you take this degummed oil and you heat it to 405 degrees, which turns it rancid.

00:05:09.000 I mean, there's no mechanism on Earth for temperatures to reach that much, especially plants to encounter this kind of...

00:05:15.000 So now it denatures.

00:05:17.000 It turns rancid.

00:05:17.000 So now it's putrefied and it smells.

00:05:20.000 So now you have to deodorize it.

00:05:22.000 So we deodorize it with sodium hydroxide.

00:05:25.000 So we degum it with a powerful neurotoxin.

00:05:28.000 We heat it to four to five degrees and turn it rancid.

00:05:30.000 And then we deodorize it with a very powerful carcinogen.

00:05:34.000 And then in some cases, we bleach it and bottle it and put it on the shelf.

00:05:37.000 You ever go to the grocery store and you see the entire...

00:05:42.000 Grocery aisle.

00:05:43.000 It's all these, like, Wesson oils or vegetable oils, but they're all exactly the same color.

00:05:48.000 Like, exactly.

00:05:49.000 They have that same beautiful, clear hue.

00:05:51.000 That's not anything that occurs in nature.

00:05:53.000 You know?

00:05:54.000 No. Have you squeezed 10,000 watermelons into watermelon juice and put it all on the shelf?

00:06:00.000 They would vary a little bit.

00:06:01.000 They would vary a little bit.

00:06:02.000 Yeah. But there's no variance there.

00:06:04.000 And so this is a chemically controlled process.

00:06:06.000 And it's, you know, again, it's not back to the polyunsaturated fatty acids per se.

00:06:11.000 It's the pro-inflammatory process that they cause in these foam cells and the inflammation in our arterial wall, which actually calls cause.

00:06:20.000 Right. So the theory that if we had fewer firemen,

00:06:41.000 we'd have less fires is kind of absurd.

00:06:45.000 That's the theory in LDL cholesterol.

00:06:49.000 It might work in California.

00:06:51.000 I could see them passing that legislation.

00:06:54.000 You know what we need?

00:06:55.000 We need less firemen.

00:06:57.000 So the theory that if we push down...

00:07:01.000 The firemen, which was called to the site of inflammation, meaning we reduced the cholesterol, which was called to the site of inflammation to cause the repair, rather than ask what started the fire, that notion is about to be, I think, blown out of the water by big data.

00:07:17.000 I think you're going to see big data, artificial intelligence, and early detection in the next five years are just going to circumvent the entire system.

00:07:25.000 Do you think there's a possibility of removing food oils from the market?

00:07:31.000 I don't think that we'll ever replace...

00:07:32.000 I want food oils, excuse me.

00:07:34.000 Yeah, seed oils.

00:07:34.000 I don't think that we'll ever replace seed oils.

00:07:36.000 Why not?

00:07:37.000 I think what's really interesting is the chemical processing.

00:07:41.000 So another really good thing, and I'm helping to author this paper with Kelly Means and a bunch of other folks to present it to Bobby Kennedy in looking at the genesis of chronic disease.

00:07:54.000 Because if you just...

00:07:55.000 And I know lots of people have talked about this on your show, so I won't belabor the point, but...

00:07:59.000 If you look at the spending of $4.5 trillion a year on healthcare in the United States, and then you say, "Well, what do we lead the world in?" Well, as of December 6th, we were ranked 66th in the world in life expectancy.

00:08:10.000 We lead the world in morbid obesity, type 2 diabetes, multiple chronic disease in the single biome, meaning not just our population has multiple different chronic diseases, but multiple chronic diseases in the same biome.

00:08:23.000 Because most people don't just have one autoimmune disease, or they're not just hypertensive and diabetic.

00:08:28.000 They're hypertensive, diabetic, and hypothyroid with an autoimmune, usually multiple autoimmune.

00:08:33.000 We lead the world in infant mortality, maternal mortality.

00:08:37.000 And so you've got to ask yourself, how is $4.5 trillion a year in spending leading to these kinds of consequences?

00:08:43.000 And very often, it's actually not the food.

00:08:47.000 It's the distance from the food to the table.

00:08:49.000 So it's not necessarily the plant.

00:08:52.000 It's what we're doing to process these plants to get them on the table. 0.56

00:08:56.000 And so I think what you're going to see is these grass guidelines, generally regarded as safe, which is essentially how the FDA decides whether or not you can micropoison the population.

00:09:06.000 So we are allowed to micropoison the population, right?

00:09:09.000 We're allowed to put certain amounts of pesticides, herbicides, insecticides, preservatives.

00:09:14.000 That is a great way of putting it, too.

00:09:16.000 It's micropoisoning.

00:09:17.000 Yeah. So that's really what's happening.

00:09:19.000 It's exactly what's happening.

00:09:20.000 And a lot of experts will say that dosage determines the poison.

00:09:25.000 And that's largely untrue when you talk about cumulative dose toxicity, meaning...

00:09:32.000 If I give you this sandwich and, you know, this piece of tuna fish and it has a very small safe amount of lead or mercury, it's probably not going to hurt you, right?

00:09:43.000 But if you don't methylate that metal out of your body, and you keep eating that same kind of fish, I mean, nobody got mercury poisoning from a single piece of tuna fish.

00:09:50.000 What they got mercury poisoning from was continuing to eat the same thing over and over and over and over again, and they got a cumulative dose toxicity, which is what a lot of foreign countries use.

00:10:00.000 So in other words, I can't just say, if I put, you know, one drop of arsenic in this glass, is that going to kill you?

00:10:08.000 It might make you mildly sick, cause an inflammatory process.

00:10:10.000 Maybe it's not going to kill you.

00:10:11.000 But if you drink one of those five times a day, seven days a week, now you're toxic.

00:10:16.000 And that's what's happened to our country.

00:10:18.000 We didn't get here quickly.

00:10:19.000 We got here by slowly stacking these micropoisons.

00:10:23.000 Right, but is it possible to change all of, like, whatever we use seed oil for, is it possible to swap that out for olive oil or beef tallow?

00:10:34.000 Yes. I know there's some companies doing, like, Masa makes these great tortilla chips.

00:10:39.000 I love Masa.

00:10:40.000 Organic corn.

00:10:42.000 Yeah. Tallow.

00:10:43.000 Organic corn, grass-fed beef tallow.

00:10:44.000 They taste like it, too.

00:10:45.000 Like, you feel like you're eating food.

00:10:47.000 Yeah. You know?

00:10:48.000 We talked about those Vandri chips, too.

00:10:50.000 Yeah, Vandy.

00:10:50.000 Vandy chips.

00:10:51.000 I love those.

00:10:51.000 I do, too.

00:10:52.000 I would have actually brought you some.

00:10:53.000 It's just potatoes and beef tallow with a little salt.

00:10:56.000 Yeah. And they're fucking...

00:10:57.000 And it tastes like food.

00:10:58.000 Yeah. Like, when I eat them, I don't feel like a piece of shit.

00:11:01.000 Like, if I eat a bag of Doritos, I feel like a fucking loser.

00:11:04.000 Yeah. You know?

00:11:05.000 Even while I'm eating, I'm like, oh, you losers.

00:11:07.000 Shut up. 0.95

00:11:07.000 I'm like, shut up. 0.95

00:11:09.000 These are delicious.

00:11:09.000 You shame yourself.

00:11:10.000 I do.

00:11:11.000 You're like, Joe, I'm so...

00:11:11.000 I do.

00:11:12.000 But isn't it possible to just replace those?

00:11:15.000 Or would it require...

00:11:16.000 Is it one of those things like...

00:11:18.000 There's an issue with factory farming.

00:11:20.000 Everybody thinks factory farming is disgusting when it comes to animals. 0.59

00:11:23.000 It's vile.

00:11:25.000 What they do to chickens and pigs.

00:11:27.000 But is it possible...

00:11:29.000 To give everyone cheeseburgers in food deserts without factory farming.

00:11:34.000 Like, have we gotten so far ahead of ourselves that we don't have sustainable regenerative agriculture as an option?

00:11:43.000 I don't think so at all.

00:11:44.000 So you think that all the foods, all the salad dressings and all the French fries and all the things that are cooked in food oil, we have enough beef tallow, we have enough olive oil, we have enough avocado oil that we could...

00:11:59.000 Switch all those things out and everything would be great.

00:12:02.000 There is no question that we have the capacity to produce these.

00:12:05.000 And we have the capacity to produce them now.

00:12:07.000 I mean, a lot of these farms don't use the bones from these cattle.

00:12:11.000 They don't use the hide from these cattle.

00:12:12.000 They don't boil on the collagen from these cattle.

00:12:14.000 And they certainly are not making the tallow from the fat from the cattle that are being slaughtered.

00:12:19.000 So there's a lot of tallow that's going to waste.

00:12:21.000 A lot of tallow, a lot of bone broth, a lot of bones, a lot of cartilage, you know, that's entirely going to waste.

00:12:27.000 And if you...

00:12:28.000 Look at a lot of countries.

00:12:29.000 They will use the entire animal.

00:12:30.000 They'll boil down the bones.

00:12:31.000 They'll use the hide.

00:12:33.000 They'll use the bone marrow.

00:12:35.000 It's kind of crazy because there's a big market for bone broth.

00:12:39.000 There's a big market for beef tallow.

00:12:41.000 Why wouldn't they?

00:12:43.000 I mean, they're just wasting money.

00:12:45.000 I think you have the perception that there's a big market for it because you're kind of in the know.

00:12:50.000 Right, you're probably in the, I hate to use this term, but woke 1%.

00:12:53.000 Oh, no.

00:12:55.000 He's like, did he call me woke?

00:12:58.000 It used to be cool.

00:13:00.000 When I mean woke 1%, I mean, I hate that word, woke.

00:13:04.000 You're using it the correct way, though.

00:13:06.000 You're using it the way African Americans used to use it. 1.00

00:13:09.000 Black people used to call woke, like, you're awake.

00:13:11.000 I'm woke.

00:13:11.000 You can't sneak that stupid shit by me.

00:13:13.000 I'm woke.

00:13:14.000 And then the fucking white people took it over and ruined it.

00:13:18.000 Like a lot of things.

00:13:19.000 Exactly. Did we fuck that up too?

00:13:22.000 Not us.

00:13:23.000 But the ones with blue hair.

00:13:25.000 Yeah, now it means a whole different body.

00:13:28.000 Now it's essentially a pejorative.

00:13:30.000 They can't even use it in a positive way.

00:13:33.000 That's beaten down.

00:13:34.000 But I like it because it's kind of like you can just be triggered about anything now so it's so convenient.

00:13:39.000 Yes. Because I can really silence you if you start out.

00:13:43.000 Intellectualizing me.

00:13:43.000 I can just feel like, dude, you're triggering me.

00:13:46.000 You're hurting my feelings.

00:13:48.000 You're triggering me with information.

00:13:49.000 I kid you not.

00:13:50.000 I've never talked about this.

00:13:51.000 I'm probably going to lose half my audience.

00:13:53.000 No. I went to Harvard University for this thing, this longevity summit through a very good friend of mine.

00:14:02.000 I won't mention his name because then I'll give away the event that I was at.

00:14:05.000 I called my wife on day two, and I was like, babe, I feel like I landed on Mars.

00:14:12.000 I go, I got to get out of here.

00:14:14.000 And she goes, what is going on?

00:14:15.000 I said, I listened to a panel of PhDs for four hours debate about whether or not a microaggression is something that could happen to you that you don't recognize that was causing a microtrauma that the other person didn't realize they were doing,

00:14:33.000 but it was still.

00:14:35.000 Creating an unsafe environment.

00:14:37.000 I think there should be mandatory jiu-jitsu classes for those people.

00:14:41.000 Mandatory jiu-jitsu.

00:14:42.000 My head was so twisted.

00:14:43.000 Here's your microtrauma.

00:14:44.000 Yeah, when they passed the microphone to me, I got so much trouble.

00:14:48.000 I won't say his last name, but Daniel, he's still mad at me right now because of this.

00:14:52.000 They passed the microphone to me, and they're like, do you have anything to add to the conversation?

00:14:55.000 I go, this sounds like a bunch of people.

00:14:58.000 This whole panel up here, you guys sound like you boarded a spaceship and literally left Mother Earth.

00:15:04.000 Because I have no idea what you're talking about.

00:15:06.000 You are talking about trying to identify something that you, by its very nature, say you don't know if you have it or you don't.

00:15:14.000 So let's just admit that it's a ghost.

00:15:16.000 So how are we going to...

00:15:17.000 We can't measure it.

00:15:18.000 We can't find it.

00:15:19.000 We can't prove you have it.

00:15:20.000 We can't prove you don't have it.

00:15:22.000 So how are we going to treat it?

00:15:24.000 What's this culture of victimization and the monetization?

00:15:27.000 It's like there's status in victimization.

00:15:32.000 That's the thing.

00:15:33.000 They've essentially made it like a virtue to be a victim.

00:15:38.000 So you're looking for little things that have possibly...

00:15:41.000 I believe there's a microaggression.

00:15:43.000 You know what?

00:15:43.000 I think I felt it.

00:15:44.000 Possibly rolled his eyes.

00:15:46.000 Possibly rolled his eyes.

00:15:47.000 I mean, that is going to haunt me.

00:15:50.000 I need therapy now.

00:15:52.000 I think he might have rolled his eyes.

00:15:53.000 And that's absolutely acceptable.

00:15:55.000 That is a microaggression.

00:15:56.000 Like, maybe rolling your eyes.

00:15:58.000 Like, you say something to me and I go, okay.

00:16:00.000 And then I leave.

00:16:01.000 Oh my God, that was a microaggression.

00:16:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:02.000 Like, what I just did going, okay.

00:16:04.000 But here's the cool thing.

00:16:06.000 Is you're kind of off the hook because if you didn't intentionally create the microaggression, I just perceived it as a microaggression.

00:16:12.000 Depends on who I am.

00:16:13.000 If I'm a white heterosexual cis male, then you're screwed.

00:16:17.000 I got problems.

00:16:18.000 Then you're screwed.

00:16:18.000 So anyway, back to the food supply.

00:16:20.000 We took a...

00:16:21.000 You turn there for a second.

00:16:24.000 What's really interesting is if you just take a very 30,000 foot view and you say, let's just look at the broad strokes in the blue zone research, right?

00:16:33.000 There's no continuity between diets in these blue zones.

00:16:36.000 So it's not keto, paleo, pescatarian, vegan, vegetarian, raw food, Atkins.

00:16:44.000 It's whole food, just what you were just saying.

00:16:46.000 Whole food and a lot of healthy lifestyle.

00:16:48.000 Whole food, well, the two things that were non-interchangeable were sense of purpose and community and activity until later in life.

00:16:54.000 So you didn't have any of the blue zones where people didn't feel a sense of purpose and community in life.

00:16:59.000 In fact, there were no such things as assisted care living facilities.

00:17:03.000 You know, the assisted care in those countries is mom and dad move back in with the kids until the day that they die.

00:17:10.000 And there's a lot to be said for that because...

00:17:13.000 Maybe Grandma's only purpose is to go out and get vegetables for dinner that night, but she has a purpose.

00:17:20.000 And she's a part of the community.

00:17:21.000 And she's not locked up in a home with a bunch of people who don't really care about her.

00:17:25.000 Yeah. You know, we knew something in the mortality space, because I used to study mortality and mortality research, and we knew that if you wanted to cut somebody's life expectancy in half at any age, and I mean at any age, you put them in isolation.

00:17:40.000 So as soon as you...

00:17:42.000 Create isolation.

00:17:44.000 You dramatically reduce, if not half, the life expectancy.

00:17:48.000 Now, later in life, we would call this broken heart syndrome, caregiver syndrome.

00:17:53.000 And these were actually very valid syndromes.

00:17:55.000 So if we actually were doing the life expectancy on an elderly spouse who is still applying for insurance or we were looking at what's called a second to die claim on life insurance policy and one spouse had passed away, we would dramatically reduce the life expectancy

00:18:10.000 of the second spouse.

00:18:11.000 And the reason why that's important is I think that people don't realize that we are actually being isolated in plain sight.

00:18:17.000 Right. I mean, we are trying to create connection through our phones.

00:18:21.000 We're trying to create connection through social media.

00:18:23.000 And these are not.

00:18:26.000 In fact, if you look at the rates of depression, suicide, suicidal ideation, obesity, chronic mental illness, and I think we actually have a chronic lack of mental fitness, not necessarily a mental illness crisis in this country.

00:18:39.000 And if you look at the skyrocketing rates of these conditions and how they are creeping into younger and younger and younger generations, you've got nine-year-olds being treated for depression now.

00:18:48.000 So what's happening?

00:18:52.000 What's happening is isolation in plain sight.

00:18:55.000 You know, we don't problem solve anymore.

00:18:57.000 We don't have communities with our friends anymore.

00:18:59.000 We actually don't build social connections.

00:19:01.000 We've lost our connection to Mother Nature.

00:19:04.000 You know, that's why I like going out to my place in Colorado.

00:19:06.000 It's probably like you like bow hunting.

00:19:08.000 It's just old school connection to Mother Nature.

00:19:11.000 And how freaking good do you feel?

00:19:12.000 Yeah, it's very, very good.

00:19:14.000 I really wish I lived in nature.

00:19:15.000 I'd really like to be living in the woods again.

00:19:18.000 I'm working on it, man.

00:19:19.000 You said you were trying to get something outside of town.

00:19:21.000 I think that's the move.

00:19:22.000 I think nature is a vitamin.

00:19:26.000 I really do.

00:19:27.000 I think it's a mental health vitamin.

00:19:30.000 I think there's something about being in nature.

00:19:32.000 There's a feeling you get, especially when your phone doesn't work.

00:19:35.000 When you get out there and you look at your phone like zero bars.

00:19:38.000 And you're out there in real woods.

00:19:40.000 It's just like...

00:19:42.000 You just feel better.

00:19:43.000 You just feel more tuned in.

00:19:45.000 You hear birds and branches snapping, things going on, coyotes.

00:19:49.000 It's like, god damn, it feels good.

00:19:50.000 We have this place in Colorado.

00:19:53.000 My wife and I, she's been going to for 35 years since she was a little, little girl.

00:19:57.000 When we got together 10 years ago, she started bringing me and my family out there.

00:20:00.000 Her father's got 10 acres, her uncle's got 10 acres, and then this 50-acre piece came on the market.

00:20:08.000 We bought it.

00:20:08.000 We're building these old school, like really authentic log cabins on there.

00:20:13.000 And I write about this all the time because in Miami, I have this really fancy place and I've got all this fancy equipment, you know, red light therapy beds, hyper barracks, hydrogen beds, all that stuff.

00:20:23.000 But I'll go out to this Colorado home.

00:20:27.000 Put on a 20-pound rucksack.

00:20:28.000 I know you do a 150-pound rucksack, so I feel like a complete pussy. 0.99

00:20:31.000 Most of the time I do 45. Okay.

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00:21:34.000 Sometimes I do it and I carry two 50-pound kettlebells.

00:21:38.000 Oh, shit!

00:21:39.000 I'm not even telling the rest of my story.

00:21:41.000 These are just short bursts.

00:21:42.000 This is not like long distance.

00:21:44.000 I just do it to tax my system.

00:21:48.000 Well, I do farmer's carries.

00:21:50.000 I do that, too.

00:21:51.000 Yeah, farmer's carries.

00:21:52.000 I actually like those.

00:21:52.000 Well, that's what I mean by that.

00:21:54.000 I think farmer's carries, like suitcase carries, are actually better.

00:21:58.000 What, closer to?

00:21:59.000 One hand.

00:22:00.000 Oh, one hand.

00:22:00.000 Yeah, because then it makes you balance on the other side, and then you swap it out to the other side.

00:22:05.000 Oh, okay.

00:22:06.000 It's a stabilization thing.

00:22:06.000 I've heard from a lot of people that it's actually better.

00:22:10.000 Actually, that makes a lot of sense to me because you're not just load-bearing the spine.

00:22:16.000 But farmer's carries are amazing, too.

00:22:18.000 There's nothing wrong with it.

00:22:19.000 Yeah, and I do a lot of farmer's carries, but I'll put on this 20-pound rucksack, go out by myself, put a sidearm in my vest, and go out.

00:22:26.000 It was just kind of funny.

00:22:26.000 I took a picture of myself in the woods the other day.

00:22:28.000 I posted it on social media, and I had sidearm people in bananas.

00:22:33.000 Because I have a gun.

00:22:34.000 Yeah, you don't want to get eaten by a mountain lion.

00:22:36.000 It does happen.

00:22:37.000 It probably won't happen.

00:22:39.000 But guess what?

00:22:39.000 If I have a gun, it's not going to happen.

00:22:41.000 Yeah, it's never going to happen if I have a gun.

00:22:44.000 I did a fucking great video of a bow hunter who was being attacked by a mountain lion.

00:22:48.000 And the mountain lion is creeping up on him slowly.

00:22:51.000 He's like, hey, get back!

00:22:53.000 Get back! 0.96

00:22:54.000 Get back! 0.96

00:22:54.000 And you see the thing lock on him and start closing in. 0.96

00:22:57.000 It's like 15 feet away.

00:22:58.000 And then...

00:22:59.000 Bang! And then you see the thing twitch and it's got a hole in its face.

00:23:02.000 He was a bow hunter.

00:23:04.000 Yeah, but he had a pistol on him.

00:23:05.000 That's why he had a pistol on him.

00:23:07.000 Yeah, it happens in Colorado.

00:23:08.000 I mean, bear attacks.

00:23:09.000 It fucking happens.

00:23:10.000 Bear attacks are fairly rare in Colorado.

00:23:13.000 It's only when you cross the...

00:23:14.000 Apparently, if you just come upon the cubs and the mother.

00:23:18.000 The real issue is not the bears that are in Colorado, though.

00:23:21.000 The real issue is the bears in Wyoming and Montana.

00:23:23.000 Brown bears.

00:23:25.000 Brown bears are what you have to worry about.

00:23:26.000 Black bears, not as much.

00:23:28.000 But occasionally, like a big black bear will go after people.

00:23:33.000 Yeah. But anyway, I take a sidearm and I'll march around in there.

00:23:35.000 But when I'm done, I feel like I took a limitless pill.

00:23:39.000 I totally agree with you.

00:23:41.000 There's something out there.

00:23:42.000 And I get this little squirrel.

00:23:43.000 It's so funny.

00:23:43.000 I leave my house and start climbing up in the woods.

00:23:46.000 I have this little four-mile kind of track.

00:23:48.000 And there's a squirrel.

00:23:49.000 I don't know if he'll be there this year.

00:23:51.000 But every year that I go out there, and he barks at me.

00:23:54.000 And he kind of growls.

00:23:56.000 It doesn't sound like a squirrel.

00:23:57.000 It sounds like a little bark.

00:23:58.000 And then he chews acorns off and grabs them with both hands and throws them down on me.

00:24:03.000 It's so funny.

00:24:05.000 And he'll follow me from limb to limb.

00:24:07.000 I shit you not.

00:24:07.000 And I look forward to seeing him every day.

00:24:10.000 I feel like he's pissed off.

00:24:12.000 Maybe it's a sign of love.

00:24:13.000 I don't know.

00:24:13.000 It's definitely pissed off.

00:24:15.000 He doesn't love you.

00:24:16.000 Somebody probably hunted one of his family.

00:24:18.000 People do hunt squirrels.

00:24:21.000 They eat them.

00:24:23.000 But in any case, I feel amazing.

00:24:25.000 But you're right.

00:24:28.000 At some point, we have the capacity to replace these oils.

00:24:34.000 We actually have a way to get back away from industrial farming and get back to local farming.

00:24:41.000 I have a very good friend named Alfie Oaks, and he owns one of the more profitable grocery stores in America.

00:24:48.000 It's in Naples, Florida, called Seed to Table.

00:24:52.000 He took me out by helicopter one time, and we hopped around to a bunch of his organic fields.

00:24:57.000 He's got thousands of acres in the middle of the state of Florida.

00:24:59.000 And he showed me how he's not only able to grow produce organically for less money than he would grow it if he had to use herbicides and pesticides and chemicals.

00:25:15.000 He's able to pick it at 9 o'clock in the morning and have it on the grocery store shelf by 2 o'clock in the afternoon.

00:25:21.000 And I watched the whole process go down.

00:25:22.000 Thousands and thousands of these acres.

00:25:24.000 And white flies are the pest flies they're trying to avoid.

00:25:28.000 Instead of spraying for these white flies, what they do is they just use this reflective cellophane.

00:25:32.000 They run it down the rows of crops, and it creates this reflection, and it scatters them to the woods.

00:25:39.000 And so now the white flies are not eating the crops.

00:25:42.000 There's no herbicide.

00:25:43.000 There's no pesticide sprayed on these.

00:25:45.000 Preservatives. His team picks this stuff by 9 o'clock in the morning.

00:25:50.000 It goes into a processing center.

00:25:51.000 And by processing, I mean it gets washed.

00:25:53.000 That's it.

00:25:54.000 And then it's on a truck and it's on the shelf by 2 o'clock in the afternoon.

00:25:57.000 So you can grab a strawberry in this grocery store and eat it.

00:26:00.000 And it was growing at 9 a.m. that morning.

00:26:02.000 And there are mechanisms for us to do that.

00:26:05.000 Yes, I get some stuff needs to be shipped and stored.

00:26:11.000 But most regenerative farming practices are not only green and good for the environment, they're economically feasible.

00:26:17.000 They actually make economic sense.

00:26:19.000 And when he talks about the fact that we've been spraying some of these fields for so many decades or so many years with these herbicides and insecticides, that there is not a pest for, in some cases,

00:26:35.000 hundreds of miles.

00:26:36.000 But we are still spraying for those pests.

00:26:38.000 He's like, you've got to start to question what the motivation is.

00:26:42.000 Yeah. Probably financial.

00:26:45.000 Probably financial.

00:26:46.000 Yeah. You know, we were talking about, you said something earlier, interesting, that you think it's not, what was the term that you used?

00:26:56.000 It's not a mental health problem.

00:26:57.000 It's a lack of mental strength.

00:26:59.000 Mental fitness.

00:27:00.000 Mental fitness.

00:27:01.000 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you think about it.

00:27:03.000 You got any of those hydrogens?

00:27:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:05.000 Come on, baby. 0.97

00:27:06.000 Come on.

00:27:07.000 I love these.

00:27:09.000 I'm addicted.

00:27:09.000 I love these, too.

00:27:11.000 Yeah. Explain to people what these are.

00:27:13.000 So. Hydrogen gas, I mean, this is probably my favorite biohack in the world because it'll cost you about a dollar a day.

00:27:20.000 These are called H2Tab.

00:27:23.000 You can get them at drinkh2tab.com.

00:27:26.000 You can actually read the science on it.

00:27:27.000 I think there's two people in the world now.

00:27:30.000 I mean, those that have read the science and take hydrogen gas, drink hydrogen water, and those that don't or just haven't read the science because...

00:27:38.000 Hydrogen gas, first of all, it's the lightest element in the universe.

00:27:42.000 It's also the most prevalent element in the universe.

00:27:44.000 10% of your body weight is hydrogen.

00:27:46.000 I think, in fact, if you took hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, and nitrogen, that's 96% of your mass.

00:27:51.000 Okay, those four elements.

00:27:53.000 So hydrogen is about 10% of your body weight.

00:27:55.000 And hydrogen is not just an antioxidant.

00:27:59.000 It's a selective antioxidant.

00:28:01.000 So if you look at oxidative stressors like nitric oxide or superoxide or hydrogen peroxide, so all of these oxidative stressors, they can be good in certain amounts.

00:28:13.000 You need a certain amount of nitric oxide in your body, but too much nitric oxide is bad.

00:28:18.000 Too much hydrogen peroxide is bad.

00:28:20.000 Too much superoxide is bad.

00:28:22.000 So if you were to take an antioxidant like vitamin C, And take very, very high doses of antioxidants.

00:28:29.000 This can be very bad for you because you're suppressing too much oxidation in the body.

00:28:34.000 You're actually suppressing these oxidative stressors too much.

00:28:39.000 Hydrogen, on the other hand, uses the body's homeostatic process to suppress inflammation.

00:28:46.000 So in other words, it works through something called the NRF2 pathway.

00:28:51.000 It affects a protein called NRF2, which moves into the DNA.

00:28:56.000 Binds to the DNA, and then the DNA spits out the instructions for catalase, superoxide dismutase, and glutathione.

00:29:03.000 So in other words, you're actually using the body's regulatory system to actually control inflammation instead of externally trying to control inflammation.

00:29:13.000 And the second thing it does is it targets the only oxidative-free radical that I think all of the science points to, which is hydroxyl radical.

00:29:22.000 Having no use in the body.

00:29:24.000 So it selectively targets that and regulates the rest of the inflammatory process by using the body's homeostasis.

00:29:30.000 So I guess a very long-winded way of saying that hydrogen gas can go anywhere in the body.

00:29:38.000 It reduces inflammation, improves circulation, improves memory.

00:29:42.000 There's a really interesting study published on the Journal of Experimental Gerontology, and it was published in November of 2021.

00:29:51.000 And most of these clinical research studies, they'll look at younger populations, like healthier, younger populations.

00:29:57.000 But this actually looked at a six-month study on hydrogen water versus non-hydrogen water in 70-year-old and older folks.

00:30:06.000 And they used something called TET2 to measure methylation.

00:30:10.000 They measured cognitive function, sleep scores, sit-stand ratios, how well they're able to sit and stand, telomere lengths in their chromosomes.

00:30:18.000 And the really fascinating thing about this study is it was done during COVID.

00:30:22.000 So these seniors were basically imprisoned.

00:30:25.000 So they were not mobile.

00:30:28.000 And the only difference between the groups that they controlled for was the presence of hydrogen water.

00:30:34.000 At the end of the six-month period during the lockdown, the control group had lost 11% in their telomeres.

00:30:45.000 The non-control group had gained.

00:30:47.000 4%. They had better short-term recall, better cognitive scores, better circulation, improvement in cardiac markers, improvement in inflammatory markers like C-reactive protein.

00:30:57.000 I think it's the greatest biohack on earth.

00:31:01.000 That and some sea salt and some amino acids, like a perfect amino, just covering your bases.

00:31:06.000 I think those are your foundational basics for OptiMild.

00:31:11.000 And it's delicious.

00:31:13.000 It comes in good flavors and it's easy to drink.

00:31:17.000 It's like a pain-free thing that you can do.

00:31:20.000 You know, you can bathe in it, too.

00:31:22.000 Really? You can actually bathe in hydrogen gas.

00:31:23.000 How many tabs do you put in the water?

00:31:25.000 You can actually put what's called a hydrogen bomb, which just looks like a big bath bomb.

00:31:29.000 It just creates hydrogen gas.

00:31:31.000 It's elemental magnesium.

00:31:32.000 What does it do for you when you bathe in it?

00:31:33.000 It goes right transdermal.

00:31:35.000 It goes right through the skin.

00:31:36.000 So, remember, hydrogen is the smallest, lightest element that we know of.

00:31:40.000 So it will go right transdermal.

00:31:42.000 And these hydrogen gas will form in between water molecules.

00:31:47.000 So a water molecule is H2O, but hydrogen gas can actually exist outside of the water molecule.

00:31:52.000 And when you put excess hydrogen gas into the water, it will go right transdermal.

00:31:59.000 And, you know, I have two of these baths at my house.

00:32:02.000 I never talk about it on social media, so I guess I'm about to talk about it now.

00:32:05.000 But I have literally put people into these tubs.

00:32:09.000 I'm kidding you not.

00:32:11.000 Crippled with arthritis.

00:32:13.000 And they will skip out of my unit like they won the lottery.

00:32:16.000 It's incredible.

00:32:17.000 I mean...

00:32:17.000 So transdermal reduction of inflammation in joints from these hydrogen bombs.

00:32:24.000 How long does it last?

00:32:25.000 Or from a hydrogen bath.

00:32:26.000 You can get these machines.

00:32:28.000 I mean, one for your house is about $7,500, $8,000.

00:32:32.000 They make...

00:32:33.000 Some that make nanoparticles or nanobubbles, which are about 1 500th the diameter of a human pore.

00:32:39.000 So if you run these things on your face, it'll actually push all the sebum out of your skin.

00:32:42.000 It'll get rid of dandruff, psoriasis, eczema.

00:32:46.000 If you have any kind of inflammatory condition like knees, hips, shoulder, rotator cuff, arthritis, low back, bathing in hydrogen gas can be one of the most therapeutic things that you do.

00:32:56.000 Really? Can you add it to a cold plunge?

00:32:59.000 You can add it to a cold plunge.

00:33:00.000 And what's interesting about adding it to a cold...

00:33:02.000 In fact, I use this Cold Life cold plunge.

00:33:05.000 And I've got these guys trying to see if we can incorporate the hydrogen gas into the cold plunge.

00:33:11.000 So where the motor pulls the cold water out, it's going to send it into a hydrogen generator and then push it back into the tub.

00:33:20.000 Because as the temperature drops in water, you can saturate more gas.

00:33:24.000 So a 48-degree, quote me exactly on this, but a 48-degree cold plunge will hold about twice as much gas as a 102-degree warm tub.

00:33:36.000 So if you were just taking a warm bath.

00:33:38.000 So you're going to be cold plunging for three to six minutes every day.

00:33:42.000 That's what you and I do.

00:33:43.000 You might as well be in there with hydrogen gas.

00:33:45.000 And so I'm working with these guys from Gold Life to see if we can plumb these hydrogen generators.

00:33:51.000 And basically it's...

00:33:53.000 It creates the hydrogen gas by taking distilled water and breaking distilled water apart and then throwing the gas into the water.

00:34:01.000 And it is noticeably different when you bathe in this gas or not.

00:34:06.000 Like, I had Sean Ryan over to my house for a podcast one time and, you know, he's all banged up from being a Navy SEAL and he's got nips and bibbles all over his body and he just thought it was really weird because I was like, dude, you gotta get my bathtub.

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00:36:01.000 Comfort from the outside in.

00:36:02.000 He's talked about it before.

00:36:04.000 Sean, big shout out, brother.

00:36:06.000 But he was like, he's like, dude, I just met you, man.

00:36:10.000 And I was like...

00:36:12.000 I go, no, it's okay.

00:36:13.000 I'm not going to get in there with you.

00:36:16.000 I'll sit on the chair outside the tub.

00:36:18.000 He's like, that freaks me out a little bit.

00:36:19.000 I'm going to be honest with you.

00:36:21.000 I said, dude, I gave him a pair of shorts.

00:36:24.000 Because I was like, does anything on your body hurt?

00:36:27.000 Do your knees, your hips, your shoulders, does anything hurt?

00:36:29.000 And he's like, dude, fucking everything in my body hurts. 0.93

00:36:32.000 So I was like, get in there, man.

00:36:34.000 And I put him in there for 25 minutes.

00:36:37.000 He said it was the first time he had slept eight hours and woken up without pain in probably 15 years.

00:36:43.000 Wow. Yeah.

00:36:44.000 John Jones, same thing, you know.

00:36:45.000 I mean, John Jones has been very public about, you know, working with me.

00:36:50.000 I haven't talked to him in a little while, but right before his last fight, I brought him one of these hydrogen machines to bathe in, and we just set up the tub at his house.

00:37:03.000 And we ran hydrogen gas into the tub.

00:37:05.000 So we would do red light therapy.

00:37:06.000 He would drink hydrogen water.

00:37:09.000 And he would bathe in this hydrogen gas.

00:37:12.000 And it was about 15 or 20 days after I kind of parachuted into his camp and set all this up that he texted me.

00:37:21.000 He was like, holy shit, brother, I can't believe him.

00:37:23.000 I'm out of pain.

00:37:24.000 I'm adding a sixth day to my training routine.

00:37:27.000 I'm waking up not in pain.

00:37:29.000 I'm sleeping better.

00:37:31.000 So it's really incredible what hydrogen gas can do in the body.

00:37:36.000 And don't take my word for it.

00:37:37.000 I mean, there actually is a really interesting study published by Dr. LeBaron, Tyler LeBaron.

00:37:42.000 He's a PhD.

00:37:43.000 And I think his PhD is in molecular hydrogen.

00:37:46.000 So I should tease him about where his life went wrong that he got a PhD in hydrogen.

00:37:50.000 But where did you bang a left that you decided I'm going to get a PhD in hydrogen?

00:37:56.000 But he published a study looking at...

00:38:00.000 Electrolyzed alkaline water.

00:38:03.000 And when they removed the hydrogen gas, all of the benefits of alkaline water went away.

00:38:12.000 So the benefits from alkaline water are coming from the excess presence of hydrogen gas.

00:38:18.000 And even when you add hydrogen gas to Regular water, it will drop the ORP.

00:38:27.000 It will make the oxidative reduction potential negative.

00:38:30.000 So it has more of a capacity to donate electrons.

00:38:34.000 So I just think it's a phenomenal discovery, and it's dirt cheap.

00:38:38.000 When you were telling me that these bottles, water bottles that generate hydrogen, they're great in the beginning, but that over time they deteriorate.

00:38:47.000 Would the same issue happen with the hydrogen generators that you would use for the cold plunges?

00:38:53.000 You know, they're a lot more robust.

00:38:55.000 They're a commercial generator.

00:38:56.000 So they're not actually working under pressure.

00:38:58.000 So the water flows through these.

00:39:01.000 So a lot of the ways that you create high part per million hydrogen gas in these water bottles.

00:39:07.000 And I actually just won.

00:39:10.000 I'm about to put a press release out about it.

00:39:13.000 I actually just won a $16 million civil judgment against a fake hydrogen water bottle company that used my name, image, and likeness to run a bunch of ads and sold tens of millions of dollars in these bottles.

00:39:24.000 But essentially, at the bottom of these bottles, there's something called a proton exchange membrane.

00:39:29.000 And this proton exchange membrane comes in contact with the water through electrolysis, and it creates the hydrogen gas.

00:39:38.000 The problem with these bottles is that this electrolysis process, if you put tap water in there and use chlorine, can actually create chlorine.

00:39:46.000 gas. You can also create something called hypochloric acid.

00:39:50.000 So what happens is over time, the bottles that I tested, because I used to be a huge fan of these bottles, and I carried them everywhere.

00:39:59.000 And I would notice that it didn't bubble as much, you know, four or five months after I, you know, had the bottle.

00:40:08.000 And so I sent it to be tested.

00:40:11.000 And lo and behold, the

00:40:13.000 You know, these proton exchange membranes break down over time.

00:40:16.000 So the first time you use the bottle, you're getting very high par per million hydrogen.

00:40:19.000 But four or five months later, you're getting almost none.

00:40:21.000 Maybe six months later, you might be getting zero.

00:40:23.000 Could you just swap out the membrane and continue to use the same bottle?

00:40:26.000 Or would you have to use a new bottle?

00:40:28.000 They don't send you a new proton exchange membrane.

00:40:30.000 Now, some of them you can screw off the bottom, and they theoretically could send it to you.

00:40:34.000 But they're expensive.

00:40:35.000 They're like $250, $300.

00:40:38.000 An H2 tablet, like a hydrogen tablet, will cost you a buck a day.

00:40:41.000 And it gives you more.

00:40:44.000 And it gives you a higher part per million than almost all those bottles.

00:40:47.000 And it's consistent.

00:40:47.000 It's high-dose hydrogen gas that's exactly consistent.

00:40:53.000 So every single time I put one of those tablets in the water, it's a consistent dose of hydrogen gas.

00:40:59.000 And I used to get a lot of shit online because I was promoting these bottles so heavily because I believed in them tremendously.

00:41:06.000 The average person's like out-of-pocket 250, 300 bucks.

00:41:09.000 Right. So this is a lot more financially cost-effective.

00:41:13.000 Yeah. So with the cold plunge thing, you're saying so because it's a commercial unit, it would work differently and it'd be more robust?

00:41:20.000 Well, it's not using pressure.

00:41:22.000 Okay. Right?

00:41:23.000 So it's circulating through this machine and it's creating, you know, using electrolysis and creating the hydrogen gas going back and...

00:41:31.000 to the tub because you don't need you're not trying to drink a therapeutic dose you're trying to bathe in a dose you don't need as high par per million so you don't need the pressure but the really cool thing is because if you do it in a cold plunge and when I pull this off I'll send you one if you do it in a cold plunge because you know as the temperature drops the more you can dissolve more gas in that volume of liquid so ideally you would have the When

00:42:22.000 I bathe in that hydrogen gas, so my wife, Sage, I had a really bad car accident right before we met 10 years ago, and she severely damaged her spine, her L5-S1, and ended up having to have a spinal fusion.

00:42:37.000 And so her L5-S1 is fused.

00:42:40.000 And even though she's thin, she's fit, she gets a lot of low back pain.

00:42:45.000 And when her back pain flares up, there's no chance she's sleeping.

00:42:49.000 But when we put her into that hydrogen nanobath, I mean...

00:42:53.000 25 minutes in there, she sleeps like a little baby. 0.97

00:42:55.000 And it's very calming, too.

00:42:57.000 It's that shifting you from that sympathetic state, that kind of fight or flight, to that parasympathetic state of rest and digest.

00:43:04.000 You can feel the effects of that hydrogen gas when it goes transdermal and starts to relax you.

00:43:11.000 It feels good.

00:43:12.000 Well, it seems like the more effective way is to do it in a warm tub, though, because you can stay in there for longer, so you'd get more exposure.

00:43:20.000 So you would get less hydrogen but more exposure than the three-minute cold plunge?

00:43:25.000 Yeah, I mean, this is where...

00:43:28.000 I like to see some data, which I don't have.

00:43:31.000 So I do know that if the water is colder, you're going to dissolve more gas.

00:43:34.000 So you're going to have a higher part per million in cold water than you are in warm water.

00:43:38.000 But then you've got to look at what's happening in warm water.

00:43:41.000 You're probably having your pores are dilated.

00:43:43.000 You've got a little vasodilation.

00:43:44.000 You probably have better surface circulation in your skin.

00:43:47.000 So you might be actually carrying more of the hydrogen through the skin.

00:43:50.000 I don't know.

00:43:51.000 Versus when you're in a cold plunge, you're going to have that peripheral vasoconstriction.

00:43:55.000 You're still going to get hydrogen through the skin.

00:43:57.000 Because it's a higher dose.

00:44:02.000 But I don't have any clinical data to say that one is better than the other.

00:44:05.000 Have you done the cold plunge hydrogen?

00:44:08.000 Oh yeah, 100%.

00:44:09.000 You did it with a bath bomb?

00:44:10.000 I didn't do it with a bath bomb.

00:44:12.000 I did it with the one in my house that...

00:44:14.000 I actually have three of these machines.

00:44:16.000 I did it with the one in my house that recirculates it.

00:44:19.000 You throw a hose over one side and it sucks the water out of your cold plunge and then you...

00:44:25.000 Throw a hose over the other side and it puts the hydrogen gas back in.

00:44:28.000 How long does the process take to hydrogenate?

00:44:31.000 I let it run for like 15 or 20 minutes because I wanted it to be really saturated.

00:44:35.000 And the water looks kind of milky.

00:44:37.000 In fact, I did it...

00:44:38.000 I had Laura Trump over for... 1.00

00:44:40.000 We shot this Fox News event for her show, for her Laura Trump show, and I did it for us to do this cold plunge shoot.

00:44:51.000 I added the hydrogen gas to the cold plunge just before we got in there.

00:44:56.000 It felt amazing getting out of there.

00:44:58.000 Now I'm trying to actually plummet right into the cold plunge so it's just in line.

00:45:03.000 So it just runs either all the time or I can turn a valve and turn the hydrogen gas on and have the gas go into the cold plunge.

00:45:11.000 So that's the next thing.

00:45:12.000 But right now, for people...

00:45:14.000 You can just go get these hydrogen bath bombs.

00:45:17.000 You can get these hydrogen bath bombs.

00:45:19.000 And where would you get one of those?

00:45:21.000 DrinkH2Tab. Oh, so you have them?

00:45:23.000 DrinkH2Tab.com.

00:45:24.000 Okay. All right.

00:45:25.000 Yeah, if you go there, you can get the bath bomb. 0.99

00:45:27.000 I mean, try it.

00:45:28.000 I mean, just throw one of those bath bombs in there and feel how much different your body feels when you're bathing in hydrogen gas.

00:45:37.000 It's incredible.

00:45:39.000 I really feel like it is one of the best.

00:45:43.000 Hacks that so few people are using.

00:45:46.000 I mean, so many people aren't in any inflammatory.

00:45:47.000 So many people are suffering from inflammation, not just neural inflammation in the brain, but nonspecific markers of inflammation like C-reactive protein, homocysteine, that are causing all kinds of havoc.

00:45:59.000 I mean, you think about the fact that about 70% of our circulation is not done by our heart.

00:46:06.000 Our heart circulates about 30% of the blood in our body, but the other 70% of the circulation is an activity called vasomotor or vasomotion.

00:46:14.000 Think of a snake swallowing a mouse.

00:46:17.000 And we don't really cater to this part of our circulatory system.

00:46:21.000 Explain what you're saying.

00:46:22.000 A snake swallowing a mouse?

00:46:24.000 So think of a snake.

00:46:25.000 So if the heart doesn't circulate roughly 70% of the blood in our body, How is that circulation occurring?

00:46:37.000 Because obviously blood is still moving.

00:46:38.000 You have about 63,000 miles of blood vessel in your body.

00:46:42.000 And so your heart is not strong enough in a single contraction.

00:46:48.000 Your left ventricle, your heart that's ejecting that blood is not strong enough to push the blood through 63,000 miles of vessel.

00:46:56.000 And so how does the majority of this circulation occur?

00:47:00.000 Well, the majority of our circulation is microvascular.

00:47:03.000 Right. So the microvascular circulation does not move blood by pressure.

00:47:09.000 It moves blood by something called vasomotion or vasomotor.

00:47:13.000 And the best way I can describe vasomotion or vasomotor is to think of a snake swallowing a mouse.

00:47:19.000 And the reason why I say that is because there's no pressure coming in the front of the snake, right?

00:47:24.000 It's not being pushed down the snake's throat.

00:47:27.000 It's being muscularly...

00:47:29.000 moved down the snake's throat.

00:47:31.000 So it's a wave-like motion, right?

00:47:34.000 It's this wave-like motion called vasomotor or vasomotion.

00:47:40.000 And vascular laxity, how the laxity that's in your vessels matters, your blood viscosity matters, and inflammation matters.

00:47:49.000 This is why when you look at the percentage of high blood pressure diagnoses, for example, if you were to just Google what percentage of Hypertension, primary hypertension, essential hypertension, or high blood pressure is idiopathic,

00:48:05.000 right, of unknown origin.

00:48:07.000 You'd see that 85% of all high blood pressure, hypertensive diagnosis, are idiopathic.

00:48:12.000 We don't know the origin.

00:48:13.000 And so we examine these people's heart, EKG, EEG, heart sounds, lung sounds, maybe a Dicontra study, maybe a CT angiogram, maybe some other kind of diagnostic heart imaging.

00:48:26.000 We can't find anything wrong with the heart.

00:48:28.000 And we medicate the heart anyway, generally for a crime that's not committing, when there's an 85% chance it's actually something other than the heart.

00:48:36.000 And we never look to the microvascular circulation.

00:48:38.000 We never look to the 70% of our circulation that's actually not done by our heart.

00:48:41.000 What are we doing to cater to that 70% of our circulation?

00:48:45.000 Well, things like resveratrol, hydrogen gas, lowering our homocysteine, which is...

00:48:55.000 I use an amino acid called trimethylglycine to help people metabolize homocysteine because those microvasculature is very susceptible to high levels of homocysteine.

00:49:05.000 And there's so many people that have ailments that are consequences of poor circulation.

00:49:13.000 And we're treating something completely different.

00:49:18.000 So for example, But we're focused on concentration, lots of autoimmune conditions.

00:49:26.000 If you look at the circulation in the brain, liver, lungs, pancreas, kidneys, you'll see that the majority of this circulation is microvascular.

00:49:33.000 You know, I've talked about why you and I both had a positive experience, for example, with red light.

00:49:39.000 What is red light doing to our eyes?

00:49:40.000 Is it fixing the rods, the macula, the cones, the retina?

00:49:43.000 Was there something damaged that red light fixed?

00:49:45.000 No, it just restored healthy vasomotor activity to the back of your eye, which is why I never...

00:49:50.000 Wear protection in a red light bed.

00:49:52.000 Now, am I saying a red light bed is going to cure your eyesight?

00:49:54.000 No. I get so beat up for that.

00:49:57.000 But red light therapy is extraordinarily good for vasomotor circulation.

00:50:02.000 Why do you think it improves your skin, the collagen, the elastin, the fibrin?

00:50:06.000 Why do you think it reduces fine lines and wrinkles?

00:50:08.000 Why does it improve?

00:50:09.000 Why can it improve our eyesight?

00:50:12.000 Because it restores healthy vasomotor activity.

00:50:16.000 So much microvasculature in our body that we don't really cater to this entire segment of our circulatory system.

00:50:23.000 Think about how small a capillary and artery has to be to carry a fluid to the edge of the lung, exchange a gas with the inside of the lung, pull that gas into the fluid and not bleed into the lung.

00:50:37.000 So just think about how tiny that tube has to be and how many of those you have to have.

00:50:44.000 Because don't forget, right outside of your lungs, you've got fluid.

00:50:46.000 Those alveoli are grabbing gas and throwing that into a fluid.

00:50:50.000 Well, at some point, that pipe has to meet a piece of tissue.

00:50:55.000 How is it not bleeding into that tissue?

00:50:57.000 It is that small.

00:50:58.000 It's microvascular.

00:51:00.000 This is also where hydrogen gas comes into play.

00:51:04.000 I don't know where I was going with that point, but I just find it fascinating that we've got so many things that we can do to cater to a lot of these ailments that people chalk up to a consequence of aging.

00:51:15.000 And they can be as simple as catering to that portion of your circulatory system.

00:51:21.000 It would be so fascinating to run a study, a long-term study on twins, identical twins, and have one person just eat the standard American diet and the other person follow all these protocols.

00:51:32.000 Hydrogen gas, fitness, healthy food, no seed oil, no drinking, and just see.

00:51:39.000 What do they look like after 20 years?

00:51:41.000 Yeah, 20 years.

00:51:42.000 20 years would be wild.

00:51:44.000 Wild. Be like sending one of them to space, you know?

00:51:46.000 And it's so funny because, you know, we're so wrapped around our medical system that's really 50-60.

00:51:56.000 years old, 70 years old, and how important a randomized clinical trial is, and placebo-controlled randomized clinical trial that's been peer-reviewed, and all of this.

00:52:05.000 But we negate the Eastern philosophies that very often have been around for thousands of years.

00:52:11.000 And I almost have more, lend more validity to something that's actually stood the test of time.

00:52:17.000 Something that doesn't work is not going to last a thousand years.

00:52:21.000 By virtue of the fact that it doesn't work.

00:52:24.000 When we were in the mortality space, we never used randomized clinical trials.

00:52:28.000 We used big data.

00:52:29.000 And I think what you're about to see now that I was alluding to before is we built an entire system on the most rigorous scientific study being the randomized clinical...

00:52:41.000 You know, placebo-controlled randomized clinical trial.

00:52:44.000 So that is the gold standard, and if it hasn't been through this process, it is not valid.

00:52:48.000 Well, we've never done randomized clinical trials on parachutes.

00:52:52.000 I wouldn't jump out of an airplane without one.

00:52:54.000 Who wants to be in that?

00:52:57.000 Who wants to be in the control group?

00:52:59.000 Okay, Stan.

00:53:00.000 Yeah. You line up here, you're getting a knapsack and a prayer book, and we're getting a parachute.

00:53:06.000 That's a very good point.

00:53:08.000 It's a very good point.

00:53:08.000 There's some things you really can't run randomized controlled studies on.

00:53:12.000 Yeah, I mean, sometimes we just have data, right?

00:53:15.000 We have really good data.

00:53:17.000 And one of the things I used to get just absolutely slaughtered for was I spoke out about the simple LDL hypothesis of cholesterol, saying that there is no correlation between elevated levels of LDL cholesterol on its own and cardiovascular disease.

00:53:35.000 You know, I mean,

00:54:00.000 I mean, big data is starting to tell us that the extension of life is near zero, but the extension of all-cause mortality is near zero.

00:54:11.000 And then the complications downstream, which we never study.

00:54:15.000 I mean, you'll never find a randomized clinical trial looking at more than one pharmaceutical compound in the same biome.

00:54:20.000 Yet almost everybody at the age of 60 is on five or more prescriptions.

00:54:26.000 But we don't study prescriptions in...

00:54:32.000 We say, okay, if you have high cholesterol, you're on a statin.

00:54:34.000 Okay, that's independent.

00:54:36.000 If you have, you know, your hemoglobin A1c is over 6.4, you're now insulin dependent.

00:54:41.000 Okay, so now you're on insulin.

00:54:42.000 And you've been a little sad lately, so now you're on an SSRI.

00:54:46.000 And your thyroid is hypofunction, so now you're also on a synthroid or levothyroxine or armothyroid.

00:54:54.000 And, you know, your blood's gotten a little thick because you're On hormone therapy, so now you are on a blood thinner.

00:55:00.000 We've never studied the compounding effect of all of these different pharmaceuticals in the same biome.

00:55:08.000 We just assumed that the randomized clinical trial in these independent silos is valid, even though we're going to smack all of these things together.

00:55:16.000 One of the things that we learned in the mortality space was the more pharmaceuticals you were on, Jesus.

00:55:48.000 That's the average?

00:55:53.000 So let's say, for example, that...

00:55:54.000 Why is that?

00:55:56.000 Because initially, corticosteroids are anti-inflammatory, but then they eat the joint like a termite.

00:56:02.000 Oh, God.

00:56:02.000 And, you know, we knew this in professional sports, and a lot of careers were ended early from cortisone injections.

00:56:08.000 You know, a lot of athletes had their careers actually end early because they got too many cortisone injections.

00:56:12.000 How many is too many?

00:56:14.000 You know, it sort of depends on the joint and the location, but I would say...

00:56:18.000 One of them can be beneficial?

00:56:19.000 One of them can be very beneficial.

00:56:21.000 In the acute phase of a pain or injury, they can be very beneficial.

00:56:24.000 But what they used to do is, because these were repetitive use injuries, and, you know, very often they would just dose the athlete up before a game.

00:56:32.000 So, I mean, Joe Theismann.

00:56:33.000 I mean, not Joe Theismann.

00:56:35.000 Joe Montana.

00:56:36.000 You know, he's one of those careers that ended early, very likely, because of cortisone injections.

00:56:40.000 And you keep injecting the same ligamentous tissue with cortisone, eventually you will weaken that tissue and it will snap.

00:56:47.000 First, it has an anti-inflammatory reaction, but then it starts to break down the cartilage like a termite.

00:56:54.000 In fact, it was so accurate that very often what would happen is people would get misdiagnosed with

00:57:03.000 like rheumatoid because they had the same symptomology as rheumatoid.

00:57:11.000 But what they actually had was a long-term clinical deficiency in vitamin D3.

00:57:17.000 And you would see that they would have single-digit vitamin D3 for decades, and then all of a sudden, they would start to present with symptoms that mimicked rheumatoid.

00:57:26.000 They would say, hey, doc, you know, my soles of my feet and ankles are sore when I get out of bed in the morning to go take my first pee.

00:57:32.000 I feel like I had a workout the night before when I haven't.

00:57:35.000 You know, my low back hurts.

00:57:37.000 My knees and hips and shoulders are stiff.

00:57:39.000 Now it's spread to my upper back.

00:57:41.000 And lately, it's kind of hard to make a really tight fist.

00:57:43.000 Well, if you give those...

00:57:45.000 symptoms to the wrong primary care doctor, maybe without doing any confirming diagnosis, without SED rates, without RA factors.

00:57:53.000 They go, you know what, Joe?

00:57:54.000 You've got rheumatoid arthritis.

00:57:55.000 But don't worry.

00:57:56.000 I'm going to put you on something called a corticosteroid.

00:57:58.000 You're going to take this pill every morning, and you're going to be fine.

00:58:01.000 Methotrexate, whatever it is.

00:58:03.000 And initially, you feel great because it kills the inflammation.

00:58:08.000 But then it starts to erode the cartilaginous surface.

00:58:11.000 So if you think about the fact that you had a nutrient deficiency, that you're now being treated with a pharmaceutical.

00:58:18.000 And six years and one day later.

00:58:21.000 Now, by the way, the methotrexate, for example, will give you a gene mutation.

00:58:26.000 It will mimic a gene mutation called MTA.

00:58:28.000 Oh, that one.

00:58:30.000 That's the bad one.

00:58:31.000 gene. The motherfucker gene. 1.00

00:58:33.000 Yeah, the motherfucker gene.

00:58:34.000 So even if you don't have MTHFR, um...

00:58:37.000 Want to try one of those?

00:58:38.000 Yeah, I might as well try it.

00:58:41.000 Even if you don't have MTHFR, if you take methotrexate, you inhibit your folate metabolism.

00:58:48.000 Cheers, bro.

00:58:50.000 No hydrogen gas, no coffee.

00:58:54.000 I actually saw you sniffing something on one of your podcasts.

00:58:57.000 What was that?

00:58:59.000 I don't want to do it, by the way.

00:59:00.000 You can do it.

00:59:01.000 No, no, no, no.

00:59:03.000 Give me a freshie.

00:59:04.000 I'm not doing it.

00:59:06.000 Here we go.

00:59:07.000 I just see all this shit over here.

00:59:08.000 Oh, this is a fresh one.

00:59:09.000 So this one hasn't been opened yet.

00:59:10.000 What is that?

00:59:11.000 This is, uh...

00:59:12.000 Do you know who Juju Mufu is?

00:59:14.000 Crazy... Juju Mufu?

00:59:15.000 Yeah, super cra...

00:59:17.000 Well, he's an influencer, but he's, like, a very impressive athlete.

00:59:20.000 Like, super jacked.

00:59:22.000 Dude, if you got a name like Juju Mufu...

00:59:24.000 Unbelievably fit.

00:59:24.000 You gotta be able to beat ass.

00:59:26.000 Incredibly flexible.

00:59:27.000 This is the guy.

00:59:29.000 He's a freak.

00:59:30.000 Like a real freak.

00:59:31.000 I mean, for sure he's not natural.

00:59:33.000 There's not a fucking chance in hell.

00:59:34.000 But I don't care.

00:59:35.000 He makes this stuff.

00:59:37.000 We have no affiliation with him.

00:59:39.000 We buy it.

00:59:40.000 We're not sponsored.

00:59:41.000 Oh, you making money off that, bro?

00:59:44.000 No, I'm not making money.

00:59:45.000 Dude, I'm scared, dude.

00:59:46.000 I saw Theo Vaughn almost like...

00:59:49.000 Brian Simpson took his headphones off and ran out of the room.

00:59:51.000 No, dude, I'm not getting anywhere near that.

00:59:55.000 No. This is a good one.

00:59:57.000 I'm going to sniff it with the top on.

00:59:59.000 Really? Just the bag.

01:00:01.000 Oh, and it's sealed.

01:00:01.000 Give me the bag.

01:00:02.000 I'll do the bag.

01:00:03.000 Just take a sniff of the bag.

01:00:04.000 Ugh. This is so wrong.

01:00:07.000 It is wrong.

01:00:08.000 I feel so dirty.

01:00:10.000 Oh, my God, dude!

01:00:11.000 That's nothing.

01:00:12.000 That's just the bag that the smelling salts have been sitting in.

01:00:15.000 Oh, my God!

01:00:16.000 So what powerlifters do is they take a sniff of this shit right before they lift weights.

01:00:21.000 You ready?

01:00:22.000 Here we go.

01:00:23.000 No. Zero chance.

01:00:25.000 Oh, lordy.

01:00:32.000 Dude, there is zero chance I'm doing that.

01:00:36.000 Get on in, bro.

01:00:37.000 Come on.

01:00:37.000 Pee of pressure.

01:00:39.000 Get about six inches from the nose.

01:00:41.000 Take a haul.

01:00:42.000 It's good for you.

01:00:44.000 I can't guarantee it's good for you.

01:00:46.000 No, no, no, that was nothing.

01:00:47.000 Oh, you're such a baby.

01:00:48.000 Come on, you're a biohacker.

01:00:49.000 You're a real man.

01:00:50.000 Get in there.

01:00:51.000 Take a sniff.

01:00:51.000 Yeah, I'm a real man.

01:00:52.000 I don't do this shit.

01:00:53.000 Get in there, bro.

01:00:54.000 Get in there.

01:00:54.000 One, two, three, go.

01:00:57.000 Sniff. Ah, that's what I'm talking about.

01:00:59.000 Oh, God, did I?

01:01:00.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:01:04.000 Let's go.

01:01:05.000 And that was a freshie.

01:01:07.000 The fresh ones are the really hard ones.

01:01:09.000 We have these in the green room at the comedy club.

01:01:11.000 People get addicted.

01:01:12.000 They're all taking snitches before they go on stage. 0.98

01:01:14.000 I think I lost sight of my left eye.

01:01:15.000 Yeah, it'll come back better.

01:01:17.000 Come back stronger.

01:01:18.000 I have no data to support that, by the way.

01:01:20.000 Now I'm going to go down the rabbit hole of that.

01:01:23.000 You're going to want another one in about five minutes.

01:01:26.000 Give me round two. 0.99

01:01:29.000 Where were we, dude?

01:01:31.000 We were actually something important.

01:01:34.000 MTHFR, I think.

01:01:35.000 I did want to ask you about cholesterol before I forget.

01:01:38.000 Where did the narrative come from that there's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol, and that HDL's good, LDL's bad, you want to lower your LDL, and you want to take a statin?

01:01:50.000 Where did all this?

01:01:51.000 So, you know, high-density lipoprotein and low-density lipoprotein, you know, the HDL, the high-density lipoprotein, is generally considered the good.

01:02:02.000 cholesterol and the LDL, the low density or VLDL, very low density lipoprotein are considered the bad cholesterol because they're softer, right?

01:02:10.000 But what we know now is that the size of the cholesterol molecule matters a lot.

01:02:16.000 In other words, the smaller the particulate size of cholesterol, the easier it is to cross into the arterial wall.

01:02:25.000 It gets eaten by macrophage, and it forms something called a foam cell, which is essentially this foam cell process of oxidized cholesterol is what is the genesis of narrowing of the arteries.

01:02:37.000 But again, we have to remember that cholesterol is called to the site of inflammation.

01:02:43.000 So if you had two people, one with cholesterol of 100 and LDL cholesterol, and another one with cholesterol of 129, does a person with 129 have a higher Incidence of cardiovascular disease?

01:02:56.000 No. Does the person of 129 have a greater risk of a cardiovascular event?

01:03:03.000 No, just because they have elevated LDL cholesterol.

01:03:06.000 Now, if you start to look at other markers like C-reactive protein, which is a great marker for cardiovascular risk, if you look at triglyceride cholesterol ratio, because remember, fat, triglyceride, is largely transported around the body on the surface of cholesterol.

01:03:22.000 So if cholesterol was a tennis ball, The fuzzy yellow surface would be a fat triglyceride. 0.69

01:03:28.000 And if you remember from high school geometry, as the size of a sphere gets smaller, its surface area to volume ratio goes up.

01:03:36.000 So what that means is if I had two baskets...

01:03:38.000 Dude, I can still...

01:03:40.000 That thing is...

01:03:41.000 I gotta seal this thing, dude.

01:03:43.000 It's like...

01:03:44.000 I'm gonna go blind in my left eye.

01:03:47.000 I'm trying to be smart and I can't see out of my left eye.

01:03:51.000 What is it?

01:03:54.000 That's a good question.

01:03:56.000 Ammonia? Ah, it's no joke, man.

01:03:59.000 I remember my clinic when Dr. Sardi used to tape these things to the wall because she would do these shoulder injections on people and they would get woozy and she would just crack one of those smelling salts and they'd come right back.

01:04:10.000 They used to use them for boxers when they got knocked out.

01:04:12.000 When they got rocked and they'd get into the corner, they'd give them smelling salts and they'd wake right up.

01:04:16.000 Wow. Not really, but...

01:04:18.000 So let's say you had two basketballs of cholesterol.

01:04:20.000 This is an oversimplified version for the audience, but you have two basketballs of cholesterol, and they're covered in fat, okay?

01:04:26.000 A triglyceride.

01:04:27.000 And let's say I add more triglyceride to the bloodstream, right?

01:04:31.000 Which happens when you eat high sugar, high glycemic carbohydrate.

01:04:36.000 Why? Because part of insulin's role is to block forms of energy metabolism that would allow you to burn fat.

01:04:45.000 Or at least slow those pathways down.

01:04:47.000 So essentially you have two basketballs of cholesterol.

01:04:49.000 And now I want to add more fat to the table.

01:04:52.000 Those two basketballs become four softballs.

01:04:55.000 If I add more triglyceride to the table, they become eight baseballs.

01:04:59.000 If I add more triglyceride, they become 16 golf balls.

01:05:02.000 And if I continue to raise triglyceride, they'll become 32 little BBs.

01:05:07.000 So the point is, the amount of cholesterol stayed stable.

01:05:11.000 The amount of triglyceride went up.

01:05:15.000 As the amount of triglyceride went up, the size of the cholesterol molecule got smaller.

01:05:22.000 So the two basketballs and the 32 BBs are the same volume of cholesterol, same nanogram per deciliter of cholesterol, just vastly different sizes.

01:05:33.000 Those 32 BBs, very dangerous.

01:05:37.000 Those two basketballs, very little danger.

01:05:40.000 One is actually a marker for longevity.

01:05:43.000 One is a marker for cardiovascular disease, and it is the same amount of cholesterol, just different sizes.

01:05:50.000 So different sizes.

01:05:51.000 I got my blood drawn a couple years ago, and the doctor asked me if I was on cholesterol medication.

01:05:59.000 He said, your cholesterol is really low.

01:06:01.000 He goes, are you on medication?

01:06:02.000 I said, no, but I eat mostly meat.

01:06:05.000 Yeah, you're...

01:06:09.000 Triglycerides would usually go down.

01:06:10.000 Your LDL cholesterol will go up if you're on a ketogenic diet.

01:06:14.000 Dr. I think it's Nadeer Singh is his name.

01:06:18.000 Did an unbelievable, he's a cardiologist, did an unbelievable YouTube video on this.

01:06:23.000 I actually did a podcast with Dr. Asim Malhotra, who is a cardiologist.

01:06:28.000 Has he been here too?

01:06:29.000 Yeah. Unbelievable guy.

01:06:30.000 Love that guy.

01:06:30.000 Shout out to Asim.

01:06:31.000 He's an incredible, incredible guy.

01:06:34.000 And Asim would tell you the same thing, that he fought the British Medical Journal and got publications that he was trying to have published, pulled because he was fighting the narrative on statins, one of the biggest drugs in the world.

01:06:50.000 We knew in the mortality space that the centenarians that we were processing death claims on, I don't recall a time during my career when we had...

01:07:03.000 And these people were dying with elevated levels of LDL cholesterol,

01:07:28.000 which you would think, well, wouldn't they have died a lot younger of cardiovascular disease?

01:07:32.000 And now the data is starting to come out to support these other metabolic issues like hyperinsulinemia, hypertriglyceridemia, high blood sugar, that these are villains

01:07:47.000 precede cholesterol attaching to the arterial wall.

01:07:52.000 And so when we talk about metabolic health, we really –

01:07:59.000 We should be looking at our blood pressure, our abdominal obesity, our sugars mainly, whether or not what our fasting blood glucose is, what the three-month average of our blood sugar is, our hemoglobin A1c,

01:08:14.000 making sure that's below.

01:08:16.000 Preferably 5.4.

01:08:17.000 Looking at our insulin because insulin resistance develops a long time before a lot of these things show up.

01:08:23.000 And looking at other inflammatory markers like C-reactive protein and just generalized markers of inflammation.

01:08:27.000 Because most people are eating a very pro-inflammatory diet.

01:08:30.000 And this is why you can't isolate one thing and say, seed oils are what's killing.

01:08:35.000 Americans. You know, vaccines are what's killing Americans.

01:08:37.000 Aluminum vaccines or, you know, fluoride and drinking water, it's the cumulative dose toxicity of all of these things.

01:08:44.000 You know, our water is toxic.

01:08:47.000 And we have fluoride, we have chlorines, we have PFAs, polyfluoroalkyls, we have microplastics, we have bisphenols.

01:08:54.000 You know, I actually did a test on myself and my entire family called a vibrant wellness test.

01:09:01.000 And you...

01:09:03.000 It's a blood and urine test, and essentially it tells you whether you've got mold, mycotoxins, heavy metals, all of these different things.

01:09:11.000 The amount of BPAs in my blood, and I would consider myself pretty on top of my diet game.

01:09:19.000 The amount of BPAs, there are traces of jet fuel, there are aflatoxins.

01:09:25.000 Jet fuel?

01:09:25.000 There are traces of jet fuel.

01:09:27.000 From while you're flying?

01:09:28.000 Like accelerants.

01:09:30.000 Like aerosol accelerants.

01:09:32.000 Maybe from flying.

01:09:33.000 I fly a lot.

01:09:34.000 My daughter had it in her blood, too, and so did my wife.

01:09:38.000 And then we all had very similar species of mold, which we got rid of, and I felt a lot better.

01:09:46.000 And it was in your home?

01:09:47.000 It was actually in my daughter's apartment.

01:09:50.000 We actually ended up having our doctor write a letter and break her lease, and we moved her into an apartment right next to us in Coconut Grove in Florida. 0.96

01:10:00.000 But she was starting to have, and she's a nurse, and she was starting to have these strange symptoms, just brain fog.

01:10:07.000 Her joints were just killing her in the morning.

01:10:11.000 By the end of the day, her ankles were swollen.

01:10:13.000 Her mood started to collapse, like the peaks and valleys of her mood kind of went away.

01:10:21.000 You know, I was bringing her over to the house and obviously as a biohacker, I'm trying to solve everything.

01:10:25.000 So I was like, we got to do this vibrant wellness test medicine.

01:10:27.000 We got to figure out what's going on.

01:10:29.000 And then, boom, the mold just jumped off the chart.

01:10:32.000 Our youngest daughter, too, is suffering from recurrent sore throats.

01:10:36.000 And you know that viruses and, I mean, bacteria and mold have been...

01:10:42.000 Mortal enemies for years.

01:10:43.000 I mean, think penicillin and bacteria, right?

01:10:45.000 And so we live in the mold capital of the world, and very often when you get mold toxicity, it's not just a constant infection.

01:10:53.000 It has a latent phase, a dormant phase, and then a sporulating phase.

01:10:59.000 And so these mold infections, which a lot of doctors will tell you are complete nonsense.

01:11:05.000 are absolutely valid.

01:11:07.000 I mean, there are people that right now that have severe brain fog, they have joint pain, they have really poor focus and concentration and short term memory issues, they've got hormone imbalance, they've got water retention, and they got swollen ankles.

01:11:23.000 And they cannot really figure it out.

01:11:26.000 And they'll do a standard blood test.

01:11:27.000 And you don't see this on a standard blood test.

01:11:30.000 And when you do something like a vibrant and you look at these This mold toxicity, you get rid of it and you see the entire blood panel, you know, comes back into optimal ranges and they feel amazing.

01:11:44.000 Just like my daughter, we did EB02, we did sauna, we did gut binders, activated charcoal binders, high doses of glutathione.

01:11:52.000 And over the next few weeks, we slowly walked, you know, this mold right out of her.

01:11:59.000 system, but people suffer from this all the time.

01:12:01.000 In fact, I've been deep down the rabbit hole of a lot of the foundations of these autoimmune diseases because in my previous clinic, we had 150, 160,000 patients come through

01:12:16.000 our clinic system.

01:12:20.000 everyone that we saw that had an autoimmune disease was told by their doctor,

01:12:28.000 You just woke up one day and your immune system went haywire.

01:12:31.000 So you have Crohn's disease because one day you woke up and your immune system is manufacturing antibodies to your colon.

01:12:36.000 Or you have hypothyroid because you woke up one morning and your immune system is manufacturing antibodies to your thyroid.

01:12:44.000 So now you have Hashimoto's or the lacrimal gland in your eye and you have chagrins or your blood, you have lupus.

01:12:50.000 And we immediately just assume that God made a mistake, that the immune system is malfunctioning.

01:12:56.000 Instead of us taking Taking a step back and saying, you know, what if actually the immune system is acting properly?

01:13:03.000 What if God didn't make a mistake?

01:13:07.000 What if it's attacking the colon for a reason?

01:13:10.000 We just have to figure it out.

01:13:11.000 And if you just eliminated four things, mold mycotoxin, heavy metals, viruses, and parasites, just those four categories, I believe you would get to the majority of the genesis of...

01:13:25.000 Some of these autopsy studies on multiple sclerosis, for example, were 100% positive for certain colonies of helminths.

01:13:35.000 Helminths? That means saying that everybody that has multiple sclerosis has parasitic infection.

01:13:58.000 But there are healthy parasites.

01:14:01.000 There's categories of helminths that are very, very healthy.

01:14:04.000 And some of the underdeveloped countries in the world where actually they have these healthy parasites, which we've wiped out for the large part here, they don't get multiple sclerosis or they have very, very low incidence of multiple sclerosis.

01:14:16.000 And one of the theories is that because we have We have disrupted the balance of not only bacteria, but parasites in our gut, specifically TSO parasites, which are healthy parasites that the pathogenic parasites proliferate,

01:14:34.000 and their larvae burrow into the myelin sheath, and they're part of the genesis of multiple sclerosis.

01:14:41.000 My whole point in saying that is, if you take any pathogen, let's just take this one right here.

01:14:46.000 I don't know what this is.

01:14:47.000 It looks like a Donald Trump coin.

01:14:49.000 So I don't know if the audience could see this, but let's say this was a mold spore or mycotoxin or this was a heavy metal or even a virus.

01:14:58.000 And this was a healthy cell.

01:15:00.000 You see that they don't hide like this, right?

01:15:03.000 Metals, mycotoxins, mold, viruses, even in some cases parasites, they don't hide outside of the cell like this.

01:15:10.000 They hide like this.

01:15:12.000 Inside the cell.

01:15:13.000 Inside the cell.

01:15:14.000 I mean, but when a virus, when the nucleocapsid protein of a virus attaches to a cell and injects its DNA, that's the way that it takes over that cell.

01:15:24.000 It's kind of like being bitten by the zombie, right?

01:15:26.000 I mean, a virus is not a living thing.

01:15:27.000 It's an envelope that's wrapped around DNA.

01:15:30.000 But when that envelope attaches to the cell wall and it squirts the DNA inside, now the virus has taken over the host cell, right?

01:15:38.000 So it's inside the cell.

01:15:40.000 But the point is that The immune system is not after this.

01:15:44.000 It's not after the cell.

01:15:45.000 It's after this.

01:15:46.000 So how does it get to this?

01:15:49.000 It has to kick down this wall.

01:15:51.000 It has to break through this cell wall.

01:15:53.000 And very often, in order to do that, it needs to manufacture an antibody to this cell.

01:16:00.000 If you look, for example, for Hashimoto's, which a lot of people have, These people have Hashimoto's and they're told, okay, well, you woke up one day and your immune system decided to attack the thyroid.

01:16:17.000 You know, you're manufacturing antibodies to your thyroid.

01:16:20.000 And so, well, why is it attacking my thyroid?

01:16:22.000 Well, we don't know.

01:16:23.000 Let's look at your family history.

01:16:24.000 Oh, your mom's sister had it and your dad's brother had it.

01:16:29.000 Oh, you have familial Hashimoto's.

01:16:32.000 Even though there is no gene.

01:16:34.000 For Hashimoto's.

01:16:35.000 So you couldn't have inherited it from your ancestor.

01:16:38.000 Because it now runs in your family, you're told that you have a genetically inherited disease, and now you have to subscribe to a lifetime of medication.

01:16:46.000 Instead of taking a step back and saying, well, what would have called my immune system to that site?

01:16:52.000 Look at the incidence of heavy metal toxicity, mercury poisoning, in Hashimoto's.

01:16:57.000 Look at the amount of lead and mercury poisoning in Hashimoto's because the thyroid has an affinity for heavy metals.

01:17:04.000 And very often when they retreat into the thyroid, the immune system will chase them there.

01:17:08.000 And look at the genesis of a lot of Crohn's disease.

01:17:11.000 I mean, a lot of Crohn's disease has to do with the disruption of the single cell layer in your gut that allows bacteria and other pathogenic contents that should stay inside the luminal wall of your gut.

01:17:22.000 They leak out and they're in an area that they don't belong and the immune system is attacking them there.

01:17:27.000 And then we want to hold the immune system responsible for the crime and say, hey, we're going to arrest the police officer for what this criminal did.

01:17:38.000 I mean, those contents are in areas of the body where they don't belong.

01:17:50.000 Instead of saying, what contents could be leaking from my gut that are causing the immune system to light up?

01:17:56.000 And you could just keep going through lots of autoimmune diseases like this, you know, multiple sclerosis, a lot of these conditions.

01:18:02.000 But mold, mycotoxins, metals, parasites.

01:18:05.000 I mean, if I was ever told that I had an autoimmune disease, I would not accept it until I'd done those kinds of...

01:18:12.000 Yes. Interesting.

01:18:13.000 So back to the narrative of HDL and LDL.

01:18:18.000 How did it get formed that LDL is the bad cholesterol?

01:18:22.000 Because the majority of people that had high LDL cholesterol also had high other factors going on in their body.

01:18:30.000 And just like a lot of these randomized clinical trials, we look at things in isolation.

01:18:35.000 We study one thing in isolation.

01:18:37.000 One of the worst things we do, in my opinion, in modern science is study Human anatomy or human physiology or biochemistry in isolation.

01:18:45.000 So we say we're going to take a cell out of the body.

01:18:47.000 We're going to put it in a lab.

01:18:48.000 We're going to look how it behaves in a Petri dish. 0.98

01:18:50.000 And then we're going to assume that when I put that cell back into the body, it's going to behave the same way.

01:18:55.000 And so we didn't solve for all of these other factors.

01:18:58.000 Well, what was the person's...

01:19:01.000 Insulin level.

01:19:01.000 What was their fasting glucose?

01:19:03.000 What was their hemoglobin A1c?

01:19:04.000 What were their other inflammatory markers like C-reactive protein, creatine phosphokinase?

01:19:09.000 What were the other lifestyle factors that were going on?

01:19:12.000 And what you'll find is correlation between high levels of cholesterol and people that have cardiovascular disease, but not because of the cholesterol, because of all of the diet and lifestyle risk factors that go around it.

01:19:29.000 But we can build a multi-billion dollar, in fact, a trillion dollar industry by just lowering this one biomarker.

01:19:36.000 And when we lower this biomarker, if that biomarker were directly linked to all-cause mortality, if it were directly linked to the incidence of cardiovascular disease, then we would see in the population where we lowered this biomarker, we would see an extension of mortality,

01:19:52.000 right? Because we said this biomarker was high, LDL.

01:19:55.000 So if we lower it...

01:19:57.000 With statin.

01:19:57.000 Then we're going to see an extension of mortality.

01:19:59.000 And lo and behold, we see no extension of mortality.

01:20:01.000 So how has it continued to be used?

01:20:04.000 Because it's continued to be marketed that way.

01:20:06.000 You have to understand that there's a box that is called the standard of care.

01:20:10.000 And I don't subscribe to the fact that physicians are trying to harm you.

01:20:13.000 In fact, I have the deepest respect for people that are licensed to practice medicine because I'm not one of them.

01:20:19.000 And, you know, they go through a schooling to learn to practice within something called the standard of care.

01:20:27.000 If you're outside of the standard of care, your malpractice is at risk.

01:20:32.000 Your reimbursement is at risk.

01:20:34.000 your career is at risk.

01:20:36.000 So you may very well be doing something that is in your scope of practice, but it is outside the standard of care.

01:20:43.000 So most physicians will migrate back into the standard of care.

01:20:48.000 So even if you...

01:20:49.000 Go around to a bunch of allopathic doctors and get multiple opinions.

01:20:52.000 They'll all be within this box.

01:20:54.000 When you jump outside of that box, you've got to be talking to somebody who's willing to say, okay, you probably have to pay me cash.

01:21:01.000 You probably have put my malpractice at risk.

01:21:04.000 I don't have malpractice coverage for this type of treatment.

01:21:07.000 Not because they're breaking the law, but because they're not within the standard of care.

01:21:11.000 It's just like when physicians started to prescribe ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for COVID when it wasn't the standard of care, even though there were millions and millions and millions.

01:21:22.000 So... What happens is you develop a herd mentality because the system for reimbursement,

01:21:41.000 how they get paid, the system for coverage, how they get malpractice coverage, and the system for their career is all dependent on things being inside of a certain box.

01:21:51.000 The standard of care for someone with elevated LDL cholesterol is to put them on a statin.

01:21:57.000 If you don't do that, you could be risking your license.

01:22:01.000 Why is that the standard of care?

01:22:04.000 Because pharma dictates that that's the standard of care.

01:22:07.000 They also dictate the reimbursement rates.

01:22:09.000 And so if you look at the study that was done in 2016 by Harvard, which determined that medical error was the third leading cause of death.

01:22:18.000 I think it was repeated by Hopkins in 2019.

01:22:21.000 But the Harvard study in 2016 is very clear that the third leading cause of death in America is medical error.

01:22:30.000 And when you look into the study for why, you know, were doctors just killing people?

01:22:35.000 No. What happened was they looked at ICD-9, ICD-10, ICD-11 codes, how they're coding the diagnosis of what's happened to you.

01:22:46.000 I have to, as a doctor, I've got to sort of slot you into a diagnostic code so I can get reimbursed and you can get medication and we can all get paid.

01:22:56.000 But if I don't have a diagnosis to slot you into, I got to pick sort of the next nearest one.

01:23:03.000 And there is no diagnosis or way for me to be reimbursed or to make a living if I go, look, Joe, your hemoglobin A1C is like fantastic.

01:23:14.000 You're early stage pre-diabetic.

01:23:17.000 You've got a little abdominal obesity going on.

01:23:21.000 Your blood pressure is creeping towards the high side.

01:23:24.000 Your fasting glucose is really high.

01:23:26.000 Let's talk about some diet and lifestyle choices.

01:23:29.000 Tell me what's going on in your life.

01:23:30.000 What's a typical day of your diet look like?

01:23:32.000 Can I put you on a treadmill for $25?

01:23:35.000 I think a lot of that is going to begin to change.

01:23:55.000 You're going to see Bobby Kennedy and his team, again, in my opinion, you're going to see Bobby Kennedy and his team, which have been empowered to make real change, not just getting poison out of our food supply and having the generally regarded as safe guidelines look at food safety before we put it into the public domain,

01:24:21.000 but you're really going to see him go after.

01:24:24.000 Corruption in our nutritional research, corruption in our governmental oversight bodies.

01:24:31.000 How is it that we can have people that sit in the Food and Drug Administration and regulate private industry and at the end of that regulatory career go in to work for the same industry that they purported to regulate?

01:24:46.000 And sometimes for 10 times what they would make as a regulator.

01:24:51.000 Kind of kooky.

01:24:52.000 It seems to me like you would get arrested for that in another industry.

01:24:55.000 Yeah. Right?

01:24:56.000 I mean, if you did that in the securities industry, the banking industry, you wouldn't get away with it.

01:25:01.000 And, you know, 70, north of 70%, I think the number 74% of our nutritional research is funded by private industry.

01:25:08.000 You know, we privatize the profit, but we socialize the expense.

01:25:17.000 And by this, I mean, like, we socialize through the tax.

01:25:22.000 Right. So the expenses go on to the taxpayer, but the payments go to private industry.

01:25:30.000 So we privatize the profit and we socialize the risk.

01:25:34.000 And then the private industry that benefits from this doesn't even have a fiduciary to the patients that they serve.

01:25:40.000 They actually have a fiduciary to the investor.

01:25:42.000 And they can go to prison for not actually performing for their investor.

01:25:46.000 They can't go to prison for not performing for their...

01:25:49.000 For their patient.

01:25:50.000 So if I make a pharmaceutical that goes into your body, but somebody invested in my company to make that pharmaceutical, my responsibility is to them, not to you.

01:26:00.000 So now you get harmed, I'm held harmless.

01:26:05.000 But if I harm him by not selling it to you for the right margin, he gets to put me in prison.

01:26:12.000 It's mind-numbing.

01:26:15.000 It's so ass-backwards.

01:26:16.000 It's so ass-backwards, and it's such an uphill sludge.

01:26:19.000 I mean, what the current administration has to do, what Bobby Kennedy has to do, is sort of restructure decades and decades of what's essentially corruption.

01:26:34.000 And there's a lot of people fighting him on it, man.

01:26:38.000 Wow. I could only imagine because the amount of profit, you know, when you're talking about these industries, the amount of money they generate is astronomical.

01:26:47.000 And they're responsible for so much of the advertising revenue of mainstream media that mainstream media not only will not cover the negative aspects of their drugs but will heavily criticize anyone

01:27:02.000 who tries to go outside.

01:27:04.000 Very true.

01:27:06.000 And I mean, you know, look at this, you know, this Strong Kids Commission.

01:27:12.000 You know, the idea is to try to...

01:27:18.000 Go to schools, put physical education back into schools, get highly processed foods out of the schools, and actually not to fat-shame kids, but to pro-bodymorphic.

01:27:28.000 Encourage them.

01:27:29.000 Like, yes, it's okay to not want to be sloppy and out of shape and to call that out and to actually be physically fit and healthy.

01:27:38.000 It's not that you have to be there to gain status, but it's okay to not want to be fat.

01:27:44.000 Well, there's also, there's the, look, I don't think you should shame people and be cruel to them.

01:27:49.000 However, if someone pulls you aside and says, hey, Bobby.

01:27:54.000 You're overweight and it's fucking up your health and, you know, it's really bad for you.

01:28:00.000 If that makes you feel bad and that feeling bad inspires a change in your lifestyle, in your diet, in exercise routines and what you do, that's positive.

01:28:13.000 And sometimes you have to feel bad.

01:28:15.000 Like someone has to give you an F for you to realize, oh my God, I'm going to fail in this class unless I study harder.

01:28:22.000 Like, that's part of life.

01:28:24.000 And you can't just coddle people and expect success.

01:28:28.000 That's not how it works.

01:28:30.000 I totally agree.

01:28:31.000 It's one of the most important aspects of athletics.

01:28:34.000 Because athletics are a very clear, it's a very clear formula that the more work you put in, the harder you train, the more results you'll get.

01:28:44.000 As long as you're not overtraining and, you know, you do it correctly.

01:28:48.000 It's the ultimate sieve.

01:28:49.000 Yeah. You work hard, you will get results.

01:28:56.000 It's a vehicle for the rest of your life.

01:28:58.000 If you can learn that at a young age, that's why I think athletics are so important for young people.

01:29:03.000 If you can learn that at an early age, that the discomfort is necessary for growth.

01:29:08.000 Being tired, pushing yourself, working out when you don't want to, pushing yourself to the point where your body has to adapt and grow and become stronger.

01:29:19.000 It is a part of this process, and it's beneficial.

01:29:22.000 And through doing that, you will actually feel better.

01:29:26.000 It is actually a medicine.

01:29:28.000 If you could get the way I feel, if I cold plunge, have a hard workout, get in a sauna, stretch out, and then...

01:29:37.000 Go about my day.

01:29:38.000 If you could put that in a pill, people are like, oh my God, my new anti-anxiety medication is just so incredible.

01:29:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:44.000 I take it every day.

01:29:45.000 It's so incredible.

01:29:46.000 I'm so happy that I went to this doctor because he put me on the right stuff.

01:29:49.000 Yeah. That pill, especially if it did all the things that exercise did without exercise, it would be the most valuable pill in the world.

01:29:58.000 But getting people to...

01:30:00.000 Feel discomfort voluntarily is so difficult when people have this sedentary lifestyle and this lazy mind and this entitlement that so many people have where they feel like the world owes them something.

01:30:13.000 Instead of, I owe myself.

01:30:16.000 I've got to work for myself.

01:30:18.000 I've got to put off these feelings.

01:30:22.000 I've got to...

01:30:24.000 Delay these feelings of, you know, relaxation and comfort and delay it.

01:30:31.000 And give myself some voluntary discomfort so that I can feel true peace.

01:30:35.000 Yeah, I actually trademarked the statement, aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort.

01:30:41.000 By the way, if you want to use that, just use it.

01:30:43.000 I won't sue you.

01:30:44.000 Well, also, actually aging.

01:30:47.000 That's part of it, too.

01:30:48.000 Aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort.

01:30:51.000 And if you think about that for a minute, It truly is.

01:30:54.000 The more aggressively we seek comfort, the faster we age.

01:30:57.000 It's like we really got to stop telling grandma not to go outside.

01:31:00.000 It's too hot.

01:31:00.000 Not to go outside.

01:31:01.000 It's too cold.

01:31:02.000 It's not even really aging, right?

01:31:03.000 It's deterioration.

01:31:05.000 It's deterioration.

01:31:06.000 Yeah. Your muscles will atrophy.

01:31:08.000 Your bone density will decrease.

01:31:10.000 Your ligaments and your tendons will lose.

01:31:12.000 Because we seek comfort.

01:31:13.000 Yeah. I mean, when has a cold plunge not sucked?

01:31:17.000 For me, it sucks every time.

01:31:20.000 I don't want to do it.

01:31:21.000 Every day, while I'm doing it, there's my little inner bitch that's trying to talk me out of it. 1.00

01:31:26.000 My little inner bitch has a little whispery voice, though. 1.00

01:31:29.000 It's like...

01:31:29.000 You don't really want to do this.

01:31:31.000 You don't need to, Joe.

01:31:32.000 Oh, this is going to suck.

01:31:33.000 Maybe you could just go eat cake.

01:31:34.000 You're rich and successful.

01:31:35.000 Yeah, you don't have to do this.

01:31:37.000 But thankfully, the general, the general is what I call the one part of my brain that I try to keep the most dominant, where I tell myself, shut the fuck up. 0.61

01:31:48.000 Shut up, stupid. 0.94

01:31:49.000 Get in there.

01:31:50.000 This is not, this is unavoidable.

01:31:53.000 Get in there.

01:31:54.000 I hear David Goggins in my...

01:31:58.000 In my head, like, you know, like, shut up, you pussy. 1.00

01:32:01.000 Get in that cold punch.

01:32:03.000 He's like, what does he say?

01:32:04.000 Don't negotiate with yourself.

01:32:06.000 My son and I went on this race called the Great World Race, which is seven marathons, seven continents in seven days.

01:32:14.000 And I did a couple of half marathons and one full marathon, but he did all seven marathons on all seven continents in seven days.

01:32:22.000 How banged up was he by the end of seven days?

01:32:25.000 This was in November, so he's 24 now.

01:32:28.000 He was 23 at the time, so this was like five months ago.

01:32:31.000 I guess at 23, you kind of feel like you can't be killed by a bullet.

01:32:38.000 Turns out by Cartagena, he was feeling it.

01:32:41.000 But we took the David Goggins book with us and we read like, I was reading like a chapter out of it every day.

01:32:47.000 But it was a crazy experience because, so my son Cole and myself and my cameraman, my production guy went with us.

01:32:57.000 And initially I'm like, this is so awesome.

01:32:59.000 We're going to see all seven continents in seven days.

01:33:01.000 We're going to see Antarctica.

01:33:03.000 Due by the third marathon, I...

01:33:07.000 I was in just, I was so exhausted and in so much pain.

01:33:13.000 I mean, I'd only done like half marathons when we got off the flight in Antarctica.

01:33:19.000 All the racers go out and start running.

01:33:22.000 I had these big Timberland boots on and this big puffy jacket, and I was just sitting at the start line, just busking away for my son.

01:33:29.000 And I asked the race director, I'm like, how long are these loops?

01:33:33.000 He's like, well, They're six point whatever miles and there's four of them.

01:33:38.000 And I was like, I could easily do one of these.

01:33:41.000 So I just started running.

01:33:43.000 In the Timberlands?

01:33:44.000 In these size 14 Timberlands.

01:33:49.000 Which I immediately regretted because then the snow starts caking to the bottom of my Timberlands.

01:33:56.000 So I ended up actually marching and not really running.

01:33:58.000 And it was so funny because my...

01:34:01.000 My son has these spikes on, so of course he laps me and he comes by.

01:34:04.000 He's like, Dad?

01:34:06.000 What the fuck are you doing out here?

01:34:08.000 I thought I'd give it a whirl.

01:34:10.000 So I actually made three loops.

01:34:12.000 So I got 18 miles.

01:34:14.000 He ran the whole 26.3.

01:34:16.000 Then you get on the plane and then you fly five and a half hours in a economy sitting up like this.

01:34:22.000 You fly five and a half hours and you land in Cape Town, South Africa.

01:34:26.000 And you get off the plane and immediately run another marathon.

01:34:29.000 And it's balls hot.

01:34:33.000 And then you...

01:34:35.000 We packed up and from that marathon...

01:34:39.000 So now these marathons were only like five and a half hours, six hours apart.

01:34:42.000 So now you've done two marathons in 24 hours.

01:34:44.000 One in Antarctica, one in the heat in South Africa.

01:34:47.000 And then it was like 11 hours to Perth, Australia.

01:34:52.000 And I ran another half there.

01:34:53.000 He ran a full marathon there.

01:34:56.000 And then you're done in Perth, Australia and you pack up and we flew to Istanbul.

01:35:00.000 And the cool thing about Istanbul is you could run on the Asian side and then run on the European side.

01:35:06.000 So this was like the only night we got to stay in a hotel room and actually take a shower.

01:35:12.000 And so we get to Istanbul and the marathon was supposed to be along this wharf.

01:35:21.000 It was like supposed to be...

01:35:22.000 It's pitch black at night.

01:35:25.000 It's... The dock is all broken apart.

01:35:30.000 You know, there's these big, huge cracks in the sidewalk.

01:35:32.000 And it was 26.3 miles along this wharf.

01:35:36.000 Only the thing was, we were told that they were going to get all the fishermen off the wall.

01:35:40.000 And so, it was lines and lines and lines of these guys fishing at night.

01:35:45.000 And they would take the...

01:35:46.000 Oh, boy.

01:35:47.000 And they would snap their hooks forward.

01:35:49.000 And... So we get there and we're like, this is way too freaking dangerous.

01:35:55.000 And I guess the company that they had hired to clear all these fishermen just took their money and said the whole course was going to be lit.

01:36:03.000 Found out the course wasn't lit.

01:36:04.000 So then you had to wear the headlamps.

01:36:07.000 And so it took them like an hour, around 20 minutes to clear all these fishermen.

01:36:12.000 But then we started running and we ran with those headlights on.

01:36:16.000 And if you've ever been in pitch black and you've just watched that light bounce in front of your eyes, I don't know how my son did it.

01:36:23.000 Because I ran for like an hour and a half and I was like, fuck this, I have nothing to prove.

01:36:29.000 I'm 53, I'm going to be 54. I've already run a few half marathons.

01:36:36.000 I feel really good.

01:36:37.000 So he ran the entire thing and I joined him for a bunch of laps.

01:36:41.000 But finally, he just ripped the thing off his head because that light shaking in front of your eyes for four hours at a time.

01:36:49.000 Pretty soon, you just start to go batty.

01:36:51.000 And then you go to sleep.

01:36:53.000 The next day, you run on the Asian side.

01:36:55.000 It was 19 hours to Cartagena.

01:36:57.000 And about a third of the athletes drank the water with the ice or ate the salad that was washed in the water from...

01:37:09.000 And the worst Montezuma's revenge, Joe, you could ever imagine.

01:37:12.000 Oh, no.

01:37:13.000 Like a third of the plane wakes up six or seven hours into this 19-hour flight just puking both ends.

01:37:21.000 Oh, boy.

01:37:22.000 Lines outside the bathroom.

01:37:24.000 Lines outside the bathroom.

01:37:25.000 Squeezing your butthole shut, trying to get in there in time.

01:37:28.000 People laying in the galleys just throwing up into the trash cans.

01:37:33.000 Oh, no.

01:37:34.000 Several. And I swear, by the time we landed, my son had lost so much weight, and he was just in the...

01:37:40.000 And then we had a...

01:37:41.000 We get to the hotel room, which you actually didn't get to spend the night.

01:37:44.000 We got to the hotel room just to change, and he's in there just puking and, you know, crapping.

01:37:50.000 And he finally gets his race gear on, and we go downstairs, and, like, half of the athletes are...

01:37:56.000 Like, look like they're on their deathbed.

01:37:58.000 And because we were late to Cartagena, the race goes off at like 12.30 in the afternoon, 12 o'clock in the afternoon.

01:38:05.000 It's freaking 98 degrees, maybe 100 degrees, 90% humidity.

01:38:10.000 It is the hottest, flattest, most unforgiving course.

01:38:16.000 I remember turning to my production, head of my production team, Max, and...

01:38:23.000 And I was like, Max, there is zero chance he's finishing this marathon.

01:38:27.000 Because he'd already started at about 208, 210 pounds, and he was probably 190 by this time.

01:38:33.000 And so I pull up next to my son, and I was like, look, man, if you don't give up on this race, you know, I won't give up on you.

01:38:41.000 And I sincerely regretted that at, like, mile 16 or 18, like, saying that I would run the whole race with him because everything...

01:38:52.000 I've never run a marathon, except for that day.

01:38:55.000 Everything in my entire body hurt, Joe.

01:38:57.000 I was in so much pain from the waist down that I think I was just completely numb.

01:39:02.000 And he was just going from port-a-potty to port-a-potty, puking and shitting, puking and shitting, puking and shitting.

01:39:08.000 And I was having these sentimental moments where I was like, man, I'm so...

01:39:12.000 So happy to be out here with you, dude.

01:39:15.000 We're going to look back on this one day and wish we were back here.

01:39:17.000 He would look at me and go, Dad, shut the fuck up.

01:39:22.000 I would quiet down for another 30 or 40 minutes and then I'd get sentimental again and he'd tell me to shut the fuck up again.

01:39:30.000 We ended up finishing the race, though.

01:39:31.000 I don't know how he did it.

01:39:33.000 He sipped little ounces of coconut water for that entire Cartagena race.

01:39:37.000 And then we had to get on the plane and fly to Miami to run the...

01:39:40.000 Seventh one, which I didn't do.

01:39:41.000 He did.

01:39:42.000 I don't even know why I brought that up.

01:39:45.000 It was a crazy, crazy moment.

01:39:48.000 There were these women that were running this race, I kid you not, that they had Montezuma's revenge so bad that they would leave the race course and run into the bay that we were running beside and just shit themselves in the bay and then get back out and keep running the race. 1.00

01:40:03.000 And the guy that set the world record in

01:40:08.000 Left the course in an ambulance in Cartagena.

01:40:10.000 Wow. It was insane, man.

01:40:12.000 My friend Cam Haynes, when he was preparing for one of those ultra runs, when you run for three days, like 240 miles, he was running a marathon a day while he was working an eight-hour job.

01:40:23.000 He was running a marathon a day?

01:40:24.000 A marathon a day, yeah.

01:40:25.000 Wow. Yeah.

01:40:27.000 There's a guy right now in Bahrain staying with Sheikh Nasser, who's one of the sons of the king of Bahrain.

01:40:36.000 And he is running 150 full distance triathlons in 150 days.

01:40:44.000 When I was there, he was on 59. I kid you not.

01:40:49.000 It's amazing the body's potential if you just continue to push it.

01:40:53.000 The thing about Cam, is Cam had been running for so long, for so many years, that he had this incredible base.

01:40:59.000 His base of cardio.

01:41:00.000 He was used to doing 10 miles every day.

01:41:02.000 What does he weigh?

01:41:03.000 170, 160?

01:41:04.000 That's kind of big for that.

01:41:05.000 Yeah, he's not...

01:41:06.000 Well, his son is even fucking crazier.

01:41:08.000 His son just broke the world record in pull-ups in 24 hours.

01:41:14.000 In pull-ups?

01:41:14.000 Yeah. I think he did...

01:41:17.000 10,001 in 24 hours.

01:41:20.000 10,001 in 24 hours?

01:41:22.000 10,001.

01:41:22.000 So Goggins had a record.

01:41:25.000 He broke Goggins' record.

01:41:26.000 And then some cat in Australia.

01:41:28.000 He's young.

01:41:29.000 He's like 25. Wow.

01:41:31.000 He's an animal, too.

01:41:32.000 That's him.

01:41:33.000 And he runs with jeans on, by the way.

01:41:34.000 Why? Just for a fucking goof. 0.67

01:41:37.000 He runs with Origin jeans.

01:41:38.000 Have you ever used those stretchy jeans that Origin makes?

01:41:42.000 I think I have.

01:41:43.000 They're basically sweatpants.

01:41:44.000 I don't know if I'd run a marathon in them.

01:41:46.000 They're basically sweatpants.

01:41:47.000 They give you no resistance.

01:41:48.000 You can kick somebody in the head with them, easy.

01:41:50.000 He's gifted, though.

01:41:51.000 You can tell that stride.

01:41:52.000 He's just coordinated.

01:41:53.000 Well, he's been living with a fucking animal his whole life.

01:41:57.000 So he came in seventh place in the Austin Marathon, and he is not built like a marathon guy.

01:42:03.000 He's jacked.

01:42:04.000 Yeah, he definitely is.

01:42:05.000 I mean, obviously, he won the World Pull-Up Championship or World Pull-Up Record.

01:42:09.000 He is where I got one of the ideas to carry a lot of weight for, like, when I do 150 pounds.

01:42:16.000 Oh, is that what he does?

01:42:17.000 So he did this thing where I think it's a mile.

01:42:23.000 See if you can find it.

01:42:24.000 So he's carrying a sandbag, and I believe he has a weight vest on as well, and I think the overall weight is over 200 pounds, and he goes over a mile with over 200 pounds.

01:42:36.000 Oh, just- And he timed it.

01:42:37.000 See if you can find that.

01:42:38.000 Just walking like on a truck.

01:42:39.000 I'm going short distances when I'm carrying heavy weight, but what I'm trying to do is- You know, Peter Attia talked about this too, like the importance of the ability to carry weight and walk with it.

01:42:49.000 And then there's this guy, Tom...

01:42:51.000 He talks about the centenarian decathlon.

01:42:53.000 Yes. And then there's this guy in Australia who's like an incredible freak.

01:42:58.000 His name is Tom Havilland, and he's an enormous guy.

01:43:03.000 He's like 6'7", he's 300 pounds, close to 400, right?

01:43:09.000 Isn't he like closing in on 400 pounds?

01:43:11.000 And he's muscling?

01:43:14.000 Jacked! Jacked! 1.00

01:43:16.000 And one of the things that he does is a part of his, uh, he does, like, very unusual workout routines.

01:43:22.000 But see if you can find some videos on it.

01:43:24.000 That's what he looks like.

01:43:25.000 I mean, just a fucking complete freak.

01:43:28.000 But he does- A white dude?

01:43:29.000 Yes. Enormous guy, too.

01:43:31.000 I mean, he's a huge guy.

01:43:33.000 But he does a lot of his workouts are not just, like, normal deadlifts, bench press, all that kind of shit.

01:43:41.000 Some of his workouts he does, uh, carries things.

01:43:45.000 Like, he carries things, like, off one side or another side.

01:43:49.000 Go to his Instagram so I can pick one.

01:43:51.000 A lot of these are just, mostly you see just his back.

01:43:54.000 Why? I don't know, he's a psychopath.

01:43:57.000 He has to be out of his fucking mind just to be doing this because he's literally one of the strongest guys in the world.

01:44:02.000 Really? Yeah.

01:44:02.000 Does he participate in strongman competitions?

01:44:04.000 I don't think he does.

01:44:05.000 I think he just does all this shit on his own and I don't even understand why.

01:44:09.000 So what does he weigh now?

01:44:11.000 302 pounds.

01:44:12.000 Wow. He eats 6,570 calories a day.

01:44:17.000 Yeah, and 3,200, no, excuse me, 329 grams of protein, 814 grams of carbs, 222 grams of fat.

01:44:28.000 And that's the current phase, which is a deficit.

01:44:32.000 Yeah, this was him on his way to, so go back to that.

01:44:37.000 Yeah. So he's at 340 pounds.

01:44:39.000 I think he was trying to get to 400 pounds at one point in time.

01:44:43.000 But one of the things he does a lot is carry stuff.

01:44:47.000 And so I started looking into this idea, like, what's the big deal about carrying and walking with stuff?

01:44:54.000 So he does this, like, how much weight is that motherfucker carrying around with him?

01:44:58.000 How many plates is that?

01:45:00.000 I mean, 500 pounds?

01:45:03.000 What is that?

01:45:04.000 One, two, three, four, five.

01:45:07.000 Ten plates.

01:45:08.000 So that's 450 pounds.

01:45:10.000 Yeah, and so he's just walking short distances with this.

01:45:14.000 So I started doing that in my yard.

01:45:16.000 So I started doing it with farmer's carries and, you know, when I ruck...

01:45:20.000 I just use the 45-pound plate when I go a couple miles with the dog.

01:45:24.000 What's with the back?

01:45:25.000 I mean, why isn't he...

01:45:26.000 He's just a fucking psychopath!

01:45:27.000 Why does he have all clothes on, too?

01:45:29.000 Because if he takes the clothes off, he's super impressive.

01:45:32.000 Really? Yeah, he's fucking ripped.

01:45:34.000 I mean, the guy's enormous.

01:45:37.000 I forget his background.

01:45:39.000 Yeah, that's him.

01:45:39.000 That's what he looks like.

01:45:40.000 Dude. Yeah.

01:45:41.000 And again, he's like 6'7 or something crazy like that.

01:45:45.000 Built that way.

01:45:46.000 Wow. But he does a lot of carrying stuff and walking stuff.

01:45:50.000 Yeah. He feels like it's very important for like your overall strength.

01:45:55.000 I would agree with that.

01:45:56.000 Not just to be able to sit there and push stuff and do squats in place, but to move with things where you're balancing and counterbalancing, moving left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot.

01:46:07.000 Yeah. And I think there's a real benefit to that.

01:46:09.000 I like the single arm.

01:46:12.000 You know, farmer carry.

01:46:13.000 Yes. It makes a lot of sense, especially just trying to stabilize your spine.

01:46:17.000 Yeah, I'll do that with, like, a 70-pound kettlebell.

01:46:19.000 And I'll just, like, walk up a hill with a 70-pound kettlebell.

01:46:22.000 And I can't get very far before I have to put it down because my grip gives out.

01:46:25.000 But I won't use straps because I think I really want to, like, I've been doing a lot of, like, carry this fucker around with me, too.

01:46:31.000 Because we have this thing in the comedy club where it's, like, one of those...

01:46:37.000 Strength things where you squeeze it.

01:46:38.000 Oh, it counts?

01:46:38.000 It has a counter?

01:46:39.000 Yeah, and I got to 161 pounds of how strong you can squeeze.

01:46:44.000 It's the hardest I've ever gotten, so I want to get to 180.

01:46:46.000 So I've been squeezing.

01:46:48.000 Oh, just grip strength.

01:46:50.000 Just holding that motherfucker all the time. 0.98

01:46:52.000 You got some meaty paws there, bro.

01:46:55.000 Yeah, I got some big hands.

01:46:57.000 Yeah, just hold it, motherfucker.

01:47:00.000 I feel like hand strength...

01:47:01.000 You have to get angry?

01:47:02.000 No, I do.

01:47:03.000 I like to get angry.

01:47:03.000 I just like to get angry, if I can.

01:47:05.000 But hand strength, I think, is very important.

01:47:08.000 Most of my workout...

01:47:09.000 Peter T. talks about grip strength, and it's...

01:47:11.000 It's very important.

01:47:11.000 I do a lot of hanging, too.

01:47:13.000 I do a lot of hanging from my back and my shoulders, too.

01:47:15.000 I just hang from a chin-up bar.

01:47:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:18.000 I don't like straps.

01:47:18.000 That's good.

01:47:19.000 How long can you dead hang?

01:47:20.000 Two minutes.

01:47:21.000 Okay. I'm just about there myself.

01:47:23.000 Yeah. Just around two minutes.

01:47:24.000 I put those weighted vests on and...

01:47:27.000 That's a good way to do it.

01:47:28.000 Yeah. Weighted vests for short bursts.

01:47:29.000 Yeah. I'll take like a 12-pound weighted Aeon vest and I don't think you could do it with a rock, but I do those 12-pound Aeon vests and I just hang.

01:47:40.000 Like this is one of them too.

01:47:42.000 This one's about...

01:47:42.000 12 pounds.

01:47:43.000 Yeah, I do one series of all body weight workouts where I do chin-ups, push-ups, and then L chin-ups.

01:47:50.000 L, I guess you would be pull-ups, where it's a tight grip.

01:47:54.000 And, you know, by L meaning I lift my legs up and I hold them in position.

01:47:59.000 Plus, Saladino's got me doing that now.

01:48:01.000 So I do that most of the time with no extra weight.

01:48:06.000 But, like...

01:48:07.000 Two times a month, I'll do it with 25 pounds.

01:48:11.000 So I'll put a 25-pound vest on and do my entire routine with long breaks.

01:48:16.000 Like a ruck vest?

01:48:17.000 Yes. Yeah.

01:48:18.000 Yeah, I think it's actually from Go Ruck.

01:48:20.000 It's 25 pounds.

01:48:21.000 It's like a...

01:48:23.000 You know, just strap it in, Velcro it down.

01:48:25.000 And so I'll do my series of 10 chin-ups, my series of 20 dips, and then 10 L pull-ups.

01:48:33.000 But you're talking like the L sits where you're holding the bars and you just put your feet straight out.

01:48:37.000 Those are tougher than they look.

01:48:39.000 But I'm not holding the bar down here.

01:48:40.000 I'm doing chin-ups.

01:48:41.000 Oh, chin-ups, okay.

01:48:42.000 So I'm doing the L like this, and then I'm doing these with my foot straight out.

01:48:46.000 So it's the abs.

01:48:48.000 I've had a problem with my lower back, and I think...

01:48:52.000 A lot of it came from...

01:48:54.000 I know where it came from.

01:48:55.000 It came from archery, where I was spending too much time pulling one side only.

01:49:02.000 And then, also, I was getting a little bit of tendinitis, and I was just saying, fuck it.

01:49:07.000 Just working through it.

01:49:08.000 Do you try to shoot both sides with your bow now?

01:49:10.000 No, but what I do now is, because my bow is pretty heavy, it's 85 pounds to pull it back, but I'm doing it like when I'm really training hard, like when it's getting close to September, I'm probably shooting 100 times a day.

01:49:22.000 So I'm 100 times, I'm pulling back 85 pounds.

01:49:25.000 So now what I do, and I learned this from Cam, I take a 10-pound dumbbell and I hold it with my right, because I pull my bow with my right arm, so I put a 10-pound dumbbell.

01:49:36.000 I see.

01:49:48.000 So you're doing this in a gym on a...

01:49:50.000 Yes. Like just a hand weight.

01:49:52.000 So I'm holding it like that and then I'm using the pulley.

01:49:56.000 And I'm pulling the cables back and I'm holding it for a count of two and then bringing it back.

01:50:01.000 Holding it for a count of two and bringing it back.

01:50:03.000 So I'm balancing out my back.

01:50:05.000 Are you a lefty or a righty?

01:50:06.000 Righty. So you're righty.

01:50:07.000 That's where you're holding your bow.

01:50:09.000 So my right arm, I'm pulling back.

01:50:10.000 I'm holding the bow with my left arm to stabilize it, and I'm pulling it back with my right arm.

01:50:14.000 So now, to counter that, I immediately go to the gym right after.

01:50:19.000 One of the things I'm noticing is like, boy, I get fucking so sore on my left side now.

01:50:25.000 Because this is fairly recent.

01:50:26.000 I've only been doing this for a couple months.

01:50:28.000 The left side to stabilize it.

01:50:30.000 But I think I should have been doing it the entire time.

01:50:33.000 Because I was getting really bad lower back pain last hunting season.

01:50:37.000 And it was...

01:50:37.000 Just because of tendons.

01:50:39.000 I was just overusing.

01:50:41.000 Because you're stabilizing, right?

01:50:43.000 So you're pulling back the bow and you're holding it in place and you're stabilizing on your right side.

01:50:48.000 And after your form kind of breaks down.

01:50:51.000 Plus all that.

01:50:51.000 Because you get a little tired.

01:50:52.000 Now I just, when I feel my form breaking down, I stop.

01:50:56.000 I just stopped shooting.

01:50:57.000 So instead of shooting 100 times a day now, maybe I'll shoot 30 or 40 and I'll just stop.

01:51:01.000 I won't push.

01:51:02.000 Because it's a meathead mentality that my stupid brain won't abandon.

01:51:10.000 Even though I know it's like injuring me.

01:51:12.000 Yeah. But this is, it actually became a problem and it was hurting me when I was playing pool and I did a bunch of things to deal with it.

01:51:20.000 One of the things I did is a thing called New Fit where they put, which helped a lot, where they put electrodes on your muscles and then you go through a series of core routines while you're doing that.

01:51:30.000 That helped a lot.

01:51:31.000 That's cool.

01:51:31.000 And then incorporating rotational exercises helped a lot.

01:51:36.000 I have like a bar.

01:51:38.000 Like a golf-looking thing?

01:51:39.000 No, I have a bar, like a straight bar, and I'll put my right leg forward, so I've got the bar back on the right side, and I'm twisting forward.

01:51:48.000 So I'm doing that.

01:51:49.000 So a lot of rotational exercises, and I'm also twisting up, and I'm doing a bunch of different things to twist.

01:51:55.000 And another thing I do is I sit on a pad with my legs elevated and I have a kettlebell and I'll Twist it to the side with my legs up in the air.

01:52:05.000 So I'm getting all this Rotational exercises into my system now that I didn't used to do before but I really should have been doing from the beginning I always did abs, you know, I always did you know the the hip glute thing where you're you lean all the way back

01:52:20.000 and

01:52:20.000 Yeah, GHD sit-ups.

01:52:22.000 Yeah, those are good.

01:52:27.000 And then back extensions.

01:52:28.000 But I wasn't doing rotational stuff.

01:52:31.000 And I think that's the difference.

01:52:32.000 When do you actually...

01:52:33.000 When is hunting season for you?

01:52:35.000 December? September.

01:52:36.000 Oh, September.

01:52:37.000 Yeah. And where do you go?

01:52:38.000 Like Utah or Wyoming?

01:52:39.000 Yeah, the photo that you were asking about out front, that's Utah.

01:52:42.000 Oh, that's Utah.

01:52:43.000 That's beautiful.

01:52:44.000 And you go out for like a week and you just...

01:52:46.000 Gorgeous. Love it.

01:52:47.000 Stay at somebody's ranch out there.

01:52:48.000 It's just so lovely.

01:52:50.000 Everything about it is great.

01:52:51.000 It's just I look forward to it so much.

01:52:53.000 That's why I love the mountains.

01:52:54.000 You know, honestly, I think our long-term plan is to, we've got a beautiful place in Miami, is to sell that place and get a spot.

01:53:02.000 I mean, continue to develop our spot in Colorado because there's something about these authentic log cabins, glacier-fed spring water, will and septic.

01:53:12.000 You know, solar fed electricity.

01:53:14.000 Like, just old school.

01:53:16.000 And it makes you so happy.

01:53:18.000 And I totally agree with you.

01:53:19.000 I wish that people could feel what that...

01:53:25.000 Well, I think there's also some intangible input that you're getting from society that you're not thinking about, but that affects you, that's absent when you're in the woods and you feel refreshed because of that.

01:53:39.000 It's a connection to Mother Nature.

01:53:41.000 I mean, it's a connection to life.

01:53:42.000 It is.

01:53:42.000 I think that we've gotten so...

01:53:43.000 But I also think the absence of society is a thing.

01:53:46.000 I think...

01:53:47.000 I mean, this is going to sound super kooky, but I think even Wi-Fi and cell phone signals, I think they have an effect on you.

01:53:56.000 I don't know how much of an effect.

01:53:58.000 I think you'd be fine.

01:53:59.000 I'll tell you a story, a true story about, so my house, we have this, my wife and I sleep in an EMF-free tent.

01:54:06.000 I went a little nuts with the biohacking here.

01:54:08.000 You sleep in a tent?

01:54:09.000 Yeah, so we have these every night that we're home in Miami.

01:54:13.000 So it's a PVC frame.

01:54:15.000 You know, it's like, Five and a half feet tall, six foot tall, little frame.

01:54:19.000 It's just PVC.

01:54:20.000 It's dirt cheap.

01:54:21.000 And then draped over top of it is pure woven silver fabric.

01:54:25.000 So it looks like a mosquito net that's over our king size bed.

01:54:28.000 And in the back of our bed, it clips into this grounding mattress, which plugs into the wall.

01:54:33.000 So the whole cage is grounded.

01:54:35.000 And there's no 5G, no Wi-Fi.

01:54:37.000 That's it right there.

01:54:37.000 Jamie's got a photo of it.

01:54:38.000 Oh, that's exactly it.

01:54:40.000 That is literally exactly it.

01:54:42.000 I wonder if there...

01:54:43.000 So that protects you from EMF?

01:54:45.000 I wonder if you'd push Gary Brekka's bed in there if it would show it, because I put it on.

01:54:48.000 Is that what you do?

01:54:49.000 That's exactly what we sleep in.

01:54:51.000 Exactly that.

01:54:52.000 EMF shielding canopy.

01:54:53.000 See, this is like kooky.

01:54:55.000 This is where you and I separate.

01:54:57.000 I know.

01:54:57.000 If I tried to bring that up, my wife would smack me.

01:55:00.000 Dude, I also have a hyperbaric chamber in our bedroom.

01:55:02.000 I have a hyperbaric chamber.

01:55:03.000 In the bedroom?

01:55:04.000 No, in my house.

01:55:05.000 Oh, okay.

01:55:06.000 I've got my podcast studio inside of one now.

01:55:08.000 Inside of a hyperbaric chamber?

01:55:10.000 Inside of a hyperbaric chamber.

01:55:11.000 How big is your hyperbaric chamber?

01:55:12.000 Huge. It's got two Maybach seats in it.

01:55:15.000 It's got like a 52-inch or 54-inch TV.

01:55:18.000 It's got three AI-powered cameras.

01:55:19.000 My gym is in the Hyperbaric, too.

01:55:22.000 So here's the thing.

01:55:23.000 I have a rower and weights, like a whole set of weights inside there.

01:55:25.000 There's a risk of using electronics in a high-oxygen environment.

01:55:30.000 You don't use a high-oxygen environment.

01:55:31.000 I don't think there's any reason to go in a 100% O2 chamber.

01:55:36.000 I mean, none of my chambers will go to 100% O2, so none of them are flammable.

01:55:39.000 You could have a candle inside of there, theoretically.

01:55:42.000 Suggested, but you could.

01:55:43.000 They would tell you to not even wear certain kinds of clothes in the hyperbaric chamber.

01:55:48.000 Yeah, because if you have 100% O2, you can have static electricity and can light a spark and it can explode.

01:55:52.000 So what is 100% O2 versus like what you're doing?

01:55:55.000 So you have to actually put medical grade oxygen into the chamber, which I don't do.

01:55:59.000 You don't.

01:56:00.000 So the one that I used to go to, they would give you a mask and you would wear the mask and oxygen would get pumped into your mask while you're in the hyperbaric chamber.

01:56:08.000 Yeah, so that's also not flammable.

01:56:10.000 That's probably 92, 93%.

01:56:12.000 100% O2.

01:56:13.000 Pure oxygen, 100% oxygen is flammable.

01:56:16.000 It's just like pure hydrogen gas is flammable.

01:56:18.000 So 100% O2 is flammable.

01:56:20.000 I mean, that terrible accident that happened to that young boy in the Midwest here recently where the hyperbaric chamber actually exploded.

01:56:27.000 What happened?

01:56:28.000 Yeah, I mean, a young, I think it was five and a half year old little boy was in a hyperbaric chamber and very sadly, the technician left him in there, didn't ground him.

01:56:41.000 And he had a blanket in there with him, and he moved the blanket, and the static electricity caught 100% O2.

01:56:48.000 Oh, it exploded.

01:56:49.000 His mother was injured, too.

01:56:50.000 Oh, my God.

01:56:51.000 I want to say that both the nurse and doctor and the clinic owner have been charged with manslaughter.

01:56:57.000 Oh, my God.

01:56:58.000 Terrible. But those are 100% O2 chambers.

01:57:03.000 It's clear.

01:57:04.000 I mean, it's important to make the distinction that these 100% oxygen chambers, I mean, these are...

01:57:10.000 Bombs. And why would you have a 100% O2 chamber versus what you're talking about?

01:57:15.000 So if you look at some of the therapeutic benefits for things like diabetic ulcers, burns, things like that, where, you know, necrosis, tissue necrosis, those make sense in a supervised hospital environment with,

01:57:31.000 you know, someone standing right outside the chamber the entire time.

01:57:35.000 I've been in one one time in a place called BioAccelerator.

01:57:39.000 Medellín, Colombia.

01:57:41.000 But the home use chambers where you get a prescription from your doctor and you actually get it, probably what you have, is yours a soft shell?

01:57:48.000 No. Chamber?

01:57:49.000 It's a hard shell?

01:57:50.000 Oh, okay.

01:57:50.000 So that'll probably go to two atmospheres of pressure.

01:57:52.000 That's really good.

01:57:53.000 So Dr. Jason Saunders, who wrote the book Hyperbaric Medicine.

01:57:57.000 With Dr. Dimitri, we'll tell you there's a lot of benefits at low pressures, like 1.3 atmospheres, which you can get in a soft chamber.

01:58:06.000 And there are a lot of benefits at higher pressures, like 2 atmospheres.

01:58:10.000 So I never go above 2 atmospheres, twice the atmospheric pressure.

01:58:14.000 If you think about what's happening at twice the atmospheric pressure, you're taking the oxygen from the air, which is about 21% sea level, what we're breathing right now, and you're doubling that.

01:58:23.000 Because you're doubling the pressure.

01:58:24.000 So every 33 feet you go below sea level, you double the atmospheric pressure.

01:58:29.000 So when you get to two atmospheres of pressure, you're essentially taking in twice as much oxygen.

01:58:35.000 The oxygen concentration hasn't increased, but the size of the gas has gotten smaller.

01:58:42.000 So now you're profusing tissues with oxygen that they that normally wouldn't Be as profused with oxygen you can also put on the nasal cannulus and get 92 93 percent o2 But that's also not flammable if you took a nasal cannulus

01:58:57.000 from From an oxygen concentrator like one that works for your e-watt or something and you let a lighter in front of it It would that that gas is not going to catch fire

01:59:06.000 100% O2 is flammable and very dangerous.

01:59:12.000 So what's the benefit of 100% O2?

01:59:13.000 Just a higher concentration of oxygen for things like Diabetic ulcers, when you have anaerobic bacterial infections, meaning bacterial infections that do not thrive on oxygen,

01:59:30.000 you have to be careful with aerobic bacteria because there are bacteria that actually feed on oxygen as well.

01:59:37.000 And so you don't want to put somebody who has an aerobic infection into a hyperbaric chamber.

01:59:42.000 You want to put somebody who has an anaerobic infection.

01:59:46.000 But what's really interesting is some of the research that's coming out of Israel, especially on cognitive function, using 60 days at two atmospheres of pressure and then reducing the pressure over time, the improvement in mitochondrial density,

02:00:05.000 the improvement in blood flow, cognitive scoring, reduction of neural inflammation.

02:00:12.000 I know You can't say treat or cure, but they use these to modulate autism, all kinds of neuroinflammatory conditions, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, which is really linked to type 3 diabetes,

02:00:28.000 which is insulin resistance in the brain.

02:00:29.000 But the byproduct of that is this neuroinflammatory cascade.

02:00:33.000 So reducing neural inflammation.

02:00:36.000 You know, there are a lot of benefits to hyperbaric.

02:00:38.000 I mean, tissue recovery, post-surgical wound repair, post-surgical recovery.

02:00:42.000 You know, these things have pretty profound...

02:00:45.000 There's also a study out of Israel that showed the lengthening of telomeres when they did a protocol of 60 sessions, 90-minute sessions over 90 days.

02:00:55.000 Yes, 60 days or...

02:00:58.000 60 sessions in 90 days.

02:01:01.000 60 sessions in 90 days.

02:01:03.000 Yeah. 90-minute sessions in 90 days.

02:01:06.000 You're right.

02:01:06.000 Dr. Saunders has talked about that a lot, too.

02:01:09.000 And they showed telomere lengthening, which was the biological equivalent of a decrease of age of 20 years.

02:01:18.000 Yeah, it's a chromosomal end cap.

02:01:20.000 And if you think about it, I have a saying that the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease.

02:01:25.000 And I truly believe that because if you look at the breakdown in mitochondrial respiration, which occurs when you deprive the mitochondria of all kinds of things, but mainly of oxygen, which is our fuel source, which is not our fuel source as humans, our fuel

02:01:40.000 source is ATP, but the fuel source for the mitochondria is mainly oxygen.

02:01:47.000 And when you feed it oxygen, you have a 16-fold step up in cellular energy.

02:01:51.000 When you deprive it of oxygen, you have a 16-fold step down in cellular energy.

02:02:05.000 And so hyperbarics, because they allow for compressed oxygen, even if you don't increase the percentage of O2, right?

02:02:17.000 You keep it at 21% like we're breathing right now, but you just double the atmospheric pressure.

02:02:21.000 I mean, the effects are pretty...

02:02:23.000 Pretty profound.

02:02:25.000 And I believe the risks are low.

02:02:27.000 If you have a physician, you understand how to operate the chamber and you have safety procedures and you're not using 100% O2 and you're at shallow depths, you can ascend quickly without being in trouble.

02:02:39.000 If you're a diver, you understand dive tables.

02:02:41.000 You have to ascend at certain rates and pause at certain levels.

02:02:44.000 So the one that I built, I was like, man, how do I just compress time?

02:02:50.000 I'm like, well, I'm going to work out.

02:02:51.000 So what if I was able to put the gym in there?

02:02:54.000 And I'm doing podcasts.

02:02:56.000 I remember the guy thought I was out of my freaking mind when I started talking.

02:03:00.000 It does sound crazy.

02:03:01.000 But it's got a Nordstrak rower in there.

02:03:04.000 How big is it?

02:03:06.000 Like the size of this room?

02:03:07.000 It's pretty big.

02:03:08.000 Let me see if I can show you a picture of it.

02:03:10.000 That would be a great way to compress time.

02:03:14.000 Because you can get more than one thing done at the same time.

02:03:18.000 You feel.

02:03:18.000 I feel amazing getting out of mine.

02:03:20.000 That's actually my son working in it.

02:03:21.000 Wow. That's crazy.

02:03:24.000 That's my son Dylan.

02:03:25.000 We went in there the other day.

02:03:26.000 Working out in a hyperbaric chamber.

02:03:28.000 And you could kind of watch Netflix in there too.

02:03:30.000 Yeah. You got a screen in there and everything.

02:03:32.000 Wow. And it's got...

02:03:35.000 Yeah, we're just jamming some music.

02:03:39.000 Wow. So I was playing some rap music.

02:03:47.000 I got a sound bar in there.

02:03:49.000 That's pretty dope.

02:03:50.000 Yeah, it was pretty cool.

02:03:51.000 That's awesome.

02:03:52.000 Yeah, I just lay down in mine and listen to books.

02:03:55.000 Well, the other one you can lay down in, it's got these seats that recline.

02:04:00.000 It's got a television in it, too, so I go in there and watch the news sometimes.

02:04:03.000 Oh, that's great.

02:04:04.000 Yeah, my wife.

02:04:05.000 Daughter goes in there and they just take a nap.

02:04:07.000 I was talking to Dana about it, like how beneficial it is.

02:04:10.000 Like, how much time does it take?

02:04:11.000 I'm like, it's about two hours.

02:04:12.000 And he's like, I don't have that fucking time.

02:04:14.000 It's like everything, you got to do something.

02:04:16.000 You're doing the red light, you're doing the cold punch.

02:04:18.000 Yeah, that's why I'm trying to compress time.

02:04:20.000 Just like if you could get the hydrogen into the cold tub.

02:04:24.000 I mean, he's going to be at my house tomorrow, so we're going to try that.

02:04:27.000 How much are those little bombs for the bath, the hydrogen bombs? 0.57

02:04:31.000 I know they're about to come out with them.

02:04:33.000 I don't know if you can order them on the site yet.

02:04:35.000 I think they're probably going to be, if it's $30 for 30 of those H2 tabs, then I would imagine they're going to be around $5 or $10.

02:04:46.000 $10 for a hydrogen bomb to drop into the bathtub.

02:04:49.000 I mean, the machine is, you know, I was actually originally going to order this electrolysis system called a cocoon.

02:04:58.000 It's spelled Caquin, like the facility out in Las Vegas, which makes oxygen water.

02:05:04.000 That system's like $110,000.

02:05:06.000 And then a buddy of mine, Tyler LeBaron, who's the PhD in the space, told me about this machine I could order from Korea for $7,500, which is the one that I have now.

02:05:18.000 And now I've added a nanobubble machine, and that one's...

02:05:24.000 Just incredible, I mean, for this transdermal inflammation.

02:05:28.000 And I think for people that have, like, you know, chronic injuries, especially like chronic repetitive use injuries, or they have real severe low back pain, or they've got parents or something that are deconditioned, you know, that have a hard time exercising,

02:05:44.000 you know, these are great things to...

02:05:48.000 To do to lower their inflammatory cascade.

02:05:50.000 You know, that and there's something called EWOD, exercise with oxygen therapy, which is kind of based on Otto Warburg's research where, and I do this with my parents because both of my parents are deconditioned.

02:06:00.000 My mom has dual knee replacements and my dad's handicapped from a boating accident years ago.

02:06:06.000 He has no cognitive impairment, but he has some motor coordination difficulties, so it's hard for him to really exercise.

02:06:12.000 And I bought them a sauna and I put them both in a sauna.

02:06:17.000 for 20 minutes three times a week and they just breathe I bored a hole and they just breathe through a nasal cannulus the 92 93% O2 which is a version of EWOT the exercise with oxygen therapy or the multi-step oxygen therapy because if you just can raise their heart rate just you know a little bit with the heat then that extra perfusion pressure really drives oxygen into the tissues and I'll tell you it's a noticeable change in them just like when you get out of a cold plunge you had a really good workout Well,

02:06:47.000 imagine, you know, you're elderly and you're deconditioned.

02:06:50.000 You know, you really don't get your heart rate up.

02:06:51.000 You really don't get your good sweat on.

02:06:53.000 But you go into a sauna, raise your heart rate, and breathe some of that 92, 93% of it, too.

02:07:01.000 They feel amazing getting out of there.

02:07:03.000 This is a kind of important thing to talk about because there was a study that was released recently that showed that when people use the cold plunge after workout, you see a decrease in hypertrophy.

02:07:12.000 Yeah, of course you do.

02:07:13.000 It's a terrible study.

02:07:15.000 I was so pissed off to see that.

02:07:17.000 Because people are like, yeah, I told you it doesn't work.

02:07:19.000 All these pussies that don't want to get in that cold water. 1.00

02:07:21.000 Folks, you do the cold before.

02:07:24.000 This is the way to do it.

02:07:26.000 I know it sucks.

02:07:27.000 Do the cold before you work out or...

02:07:30.000 Wait several hours after you work out, and then you cold plunge.

02:07:34.000 Right. I totally agree.

02:07:35.000 I mean, if you think about what you get from cold plunging, let's not overblow it or underblow it, but you get, well, first of all, if you exercised intensely, let's just say you did a big squat workout and you tore a bunch of quad muscle, what's going to happen?

02:07:51.000 Inflammation. What's the body going to do?

02:07:53.000 Yeah, the body's going to send more blood flow, more amino acids, more oxygen to those muscles. 0.93

02:07:58.000 It's going to pull inflammatory factors like kregatinin, you know, the breakdown of muscle, the byproduct of the muscle breakdown.

02:08:05.000 How do you say it?

02:08:07.000 It's creatinine?

02:08:08.000 Creatinine. Okay.

02:08:10.000 Creatine is what you take for...

02:08:11.000 Right, right, right.

02:08:11.000 I never knew how to say that word, though.

02:08:13.000 I've seen it.

02:08:14.000 Yeah, which is actually very good for...

02:08:16.000 Creatinine. Yeah.

02:08:17.000 Because I know there was a fighter that was actually pulled from a fight once because he had high creatinine levels.

02:08:23.000 Yeah, that's a kidney issue.

02:08:24.000 It's actually a sign of rhabdomyolytis, right?

02:08:28.000 Of overtraining.

02:08:29.000 Yes. That makes sense because he was a psycho.

02:08:31.000 Yeah, you start to break down.

02:08:33.000 So creatinine is a byproduct of muscle breakdown.

02:08:38.000 It's perfectly normal to have creatinine in the blood, but when it gets very high, so there's usually three markers they look at for kidney health.

02:08:45.000 One is called blood urea nitrogen, bun.

02:08:48.000 One is called creatinine, this breakdown of muscle byproduct, and rhabdo is when your muscles...

02:08:55.000 Start to break down at a rate that your kidneys can't clear it.

02:08:58.000 A lot of people that go too hard when they're not in shape, like they did too many CrossFit classes, they get rhabdo.

02:09:04.000 Yes, they get rhabdo.

02:09:05.000 And what's interesting is, you know, a lot of athletes, really conditioned athletes get it too because they have a tendency to be mentally a lot stronger than their bodies.

02:09:15.000 That's the problem.

02:09:16.000 That meathead mentality that I was talking about that led to me having this tendon issue in my lower back.

02:09:21.000 Yeah. Because I was worried that it was a disc issue.

02:09:23.000 But it's not in the disc.

02:09:24.000 It's like right here on the right hip area where it's like the stabilizing muscle.

02:09:29.000 So you think about it.

02:09:31.000 Okay, so the...

02:09:33.000 And then there's something on EGFR, which is your kidney filtration rate, right?

02:09:37.000 Which is your glomerular filtration rate.

02:09:39.000 It's how quickly is the blood moving through your kidneys.

02:09:42.000 Because about 15 times every day, the full volume of your blood goes through your kidneys.

02:09:47.000 If you think about what happens when you get into a cold plunge.

02:09:50.000 So first you get this peripheral vasoconstriction.

02:09:54.000 Then you get a release of...

02:09:58.000 Something called cold shock proteins.

02:09:59.000 And if you ever really want to have some fun, just Google around about cold shock proteins.

02:10:03.000 Look at LIN28A and LIN28B.

02:10:06.000 These are cold shock proteins that are being actually researched for their impact on insulin sensitivity, improving insulin sensitivity.

02:10:14.000 And then you activate a very special type of fat called brown fat, which essentially exchanges a calorie for a measure of heat.

02:10:22.000 So it takes a calorie and turns it into heat.

02:10:25.000 That's a very good thing, if I'm taking calories and turning them into heat.

02:10:29.000 You know, there's a cost to raising your thermostat, and you think if you're in, let's say, 50 degree water, and you get out of 50 degree water and you're standing in a 70 degree room, how's your body go to 98.6?

02:10:41.000 Right. How do you actually, not only, how do you exceed the temperature of the room you're in?

02:10:46.000 Well, your metabolism is raised largely because of the activation of brown fat, and there's a cost to that.

02:10:53.000 The cost is calories.

02:10:54.000 So anybody tells you that coal plunging is not good for burning fat, I think is missing the breadth of the science.

02:11:03.000 And then the final thing you get is you get this spike of dopamine, which lasts hours.

02:11:07.000 And that's where you get that laser focus.

02:11:10.000 I feel freaking amazing.

02:11:11.000 You feel so good.

02:11:12.000 Dude, you're never in a bad mood getting out of a cold punch.

02:11:14.000 Right, that's another thing that if you could give that to people in a pill, they'd be like, oh my god, I found the best antidepressant.

02:11:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:11:20.000 It's a cold punch.

02:11:21.000 So true.

02:11:21.000 Well, one thing is beneficial, though, post-workout is sauna, right?

02:11:26.000 Beneficial for muscle growth.

02:11:27.000 Getting hyperthermic, yes.

02:11:28.000 Yes, and also as a static cardio, correct?

02:11:31.000 Because your heart rate's already elevated.

02:11:33.000 I like to go in literally the moment I put the weights down.

02:11:36.000 I get right into that 196-degree sauna.

02:11:38.000 That 20th minute's tough, though, bro.

02:11:40.000 Ooh, the 25th minute's even tougher.

02:11:43.000 Oh, you go.

02:11:43.000 Yeah, that's the last five.

02:11:45.000 I used to get to the 20, and I'd be like, okay, finally.

02:11:48.000 And then the fucking general started talking.

02:11:51.000 No. Yeah, come on, pussy. 1.00

02:11:52.000 Five more minutes.

02:11:53.000 Come on, pussy. 1.00

02:11:53.000 Oh, no. 1.00

02:11:54.000 And the thing is, too, when I'm in the sauna, I'm not just sitting there.

02:11:59.000 Hard stretching.

02:12:00.000 I do deep stretches, which is exhausting, too, because it's hard to do.

02:12:05.000 I'm holding deep, static stretches.

02:12:08.000 You're pretty flexible, though, right?

02:12:09.000 Yeah, I'm pretty flexible.

02:12:10.000 That's so good.

02:12:11.000 That's because I keep it.

02:12:12.000 I mean, I'm 57. I keep my flexibility.

02:12:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:12:15.000 Going into the sauna post.

02:12:16.000 There's a lot of people, as they get older, they lose that flexibility.

02:12:20.000 And I think that's another thing that I actually, if I'm criticizing myself, I didn't do enough of before I started fucking my lower back up.

02:12:29.000 Lower back's pretty solid now, though.

02:12:30.000 It still irritates me sometimes when I wake up in the morning, but it's nothing that stops me from doing anything.

02:12:36.000 I can still kick the bag.

02:12:38.000 That was the big one.

02:12:40.000 There's so much torque involved in the waist when you're kicking the bag.

02:12:44.000 I hate not being able to do that.

02:12:47.000 The fact that I can still get those workouts in is really huge for me.

02:12:51.000 That is the absolute best stress reliever in the history of Mother Earth.

02:12:57.000 Yeah, hitting a bag.

02:12:58.000 Put some 16-ounce gloves on, set a timer, and start doing rounds on the bags.

02:13:04.000 No, I do three-minute rounds.

02:13:09.000 I do three-minute rounds and then one-minute rest, three-minute rounds.

02:13:12.000 But the first few rounds while I'm warming up, I'm just kind of tapping.

02:13:16.000 I'm like, pap, pap, pap, pap, pap, pap.

02:13:19.000 I'm just, I'm not full blasting it, but then around round four when I'm really sweating, then I start to dig in.

02:13:26.000 And then what I do is, I have two different timers.

02:13:30.000 And one of them I have this ringside timer that will give you these 30 second dings.

02:13:37.000 So it'll give you three minutes, but it gives a different sound that goes off at 30 seconds.

02:13:41.000 So you know you're halfway through the minute?

02:13:43.000 No, so you know when to sprint.

02:13:46.000 So you have sprinting times, and then you have other times where you're sort of coasting, and then the number goes off and you sprint.

02:13:52.000 And then I'll also do Tabatas.

02:13:54.000 And so Tabatas, that protocol is 20 seconds work, 10 seconds rest.

02:13:58.000 So I do that protocol.

02:14:00.000 My favorite way to do that one is actually on the Airdyne.

02:14:03.000 Oh, that Airdyne. 1.00

02:14:05.000 The Rogue machine is the best.

02:14:08.000 It's called the Echo Bike.

02:14:09.000 The Rogue is like, it's such a sturdy...fucking rock-solid piece of equipment.

02:14:16.000 You mean it's a rogue aerodyne?

02:14:18.000 Yeah, it's a rogue one, though.

02:14:20.000 They call it the Echo Bike.

02:14:21.000 Get a picture of the rogue one.

02:14:24.000 It's much sturdier than the other ones that I've seen.

02:14:27.000 And it has Tabata built into the system.

02:14:31.000 Oh, dude, that's so brutal.

02:14:32.000 Yeah, so it's eight reps of this.

02:14:35.000 So 20-second sprint, 10-second rest, 20-second sprint, 10-second rest.

02:14:40.000 You do that for eight...

02:14:41.000 A series of eight.

02:14:42.000 So that's the Rogue one.

02:14:43.000 It's real thick and robust, and you go fucking ham on that thing.

02:14:48.000 Oh, it's called the Echo Bike.

02:14:49.000 Yeah, it's, for me, the best way to increase my cardio.

02:14:54.000 That Tabata protocol, I don't know, some guy named Tabata invented that protocol.

02:14:59.000 What is that treadmill with the weight?

02:15:03.000 Oh, the HIIT treadmill?

02:15:05.000 Yeah, that's great too.

02:15:06.000 Yeah, I ordered one of those.

02:15:07.000 Oh, you walk in with weights?

02:15:08.000 Yes. Oh, so it's like a farmer's carry.

02:15:10.000 Exactly, but you're going uphill on a treadmill.

02:15:14.000 Fuck, yeah.

02:15:16.000 Fuck, yeah.

02:15:17.000 Let's go.

02:15:17.000 Come on, dog.

02:15:18.000 Let's go.

02:15:19.000 It's all about work.

02:15:20.000 You know, getting your body to slowly build up to more and more work.

02:15:25.000 Make sure you're taking mineral salts when you're doing that.

02:15:27.000 Oh, I take a lot of shit.

02:15:28.000 Yeah. What do you take?

02:15:30.000 Well, I use Element.

02:15:33.000 Yeah, LMNT.

02:15:34.000 I take that stuff.

02:15:36.000 I'm addicted to that chili mango flavor.

02:15:39.000 Oh, it's so good.

02:15:40.000 Oh, of LMNT?

02:15:41.000 Is it spicy?

02:15:42.000 A little bit.

02:15:43.000 Just a touch.

02:15:44.000 Just a touch of spice. 0.82

02:15:46.000 I really like it.

02:15:47.000 So I'll have like a 64 ounce water with four of those poured into it.

02:15:52.000 Oh, 64 ounces.

02:15:54.000 I'm just hammering it.

02:15:55.000 But that's made a giant impact in cramps.

02:15:58.000 I don't get cramps anymore.

02:15:59.000 Yeah, a lot of people think that You know, sodium is...

02:16:03.000 It's funny how many people think sodium is the enemy.

02:16:06.000 There's a really interesting study...

02:16:07.000 More bullshit like the cholesterol bullshit.

02:16:09.000 Like, there's so many people.

02:16:11.000 Oh, your sodium?

02:16:12.000 You're going to have a high blood pressure.

02:16:13.000 You're going to die.

02:16:14.000 Yeah. All your cholesterol from your carnivore diet?

02:16:16.000 You're going to die.

02:16:19.000 Like, bitch, come work out with me. 1.00

02:16:20.000 You'll die.

02:16:21.000 Yeah, you'll die.

02:16:22.000 Bitch, come work out with me. 1.00

02:16:23.000 I'll kill you.

02:16:24.000 Just one leg kick.

02:16:26.000 No, I mean, with the workout, it's fun.

02:16:28.000 I take people through my workout.

02:16:30.000 I love taking people through it.

02:16:31.000 Because I've done it for so long that it's so hard.

02:16:34.000 But I've built my system up to be able to tolerate it.

02:16:37.000 So when I bring people in, even people that work out, they're like, Jesus Christ, this is a lot of shit.

02:16:42.000 Like, yeah.

02:16:43.000 Yeah. How long do you work out?

02:16:44.000 90 minutes?

02:16:45.000 It's at least 90 minutes.

02:16:46.000 Yeah. Yeah.

02:16:47.000 Because I do what's called, when I'm not doing endurance training, I do the strong first protocol.

02:16:54.000 So Pavel Tatsalin, he developed this kettlebell protocol where...

02:16:58.000 So a lot of people like to work to failure.

02:17:01.000 I don't work to failure, ever.

02:17:03.000 But I do the same amount of reps.

02:17:06.000 So like, say if I have a 70-pound kettlebell, right?

02:17:10.000 And I'm doing cleans and presses.

02:17:11.000 If I can do, I could probably do 20 reps to failure with 70 pounds.

02:17:15.000 So by cleans, are you pulling it just to your chin or are you talking about all the way up?

02:17:19.000 One arm.

02:17:19.000 So clean, press.

02:17:21.000 Yeah. Down, clean, press.

02:17:24.000 If I go to failure, I don't know, I probably could do like 20 reps with 70 pounds.

02:17:28.000 But I don't do 20 reps, I do 10. And then I put it down, and then I wait like several minutes, and then I'll do my left side, and then I wait several minutes more, and then I'll do my right side again.

02:17:38.000 So I am completely rested by the time I do my second set.

02:17:43.000 So I'm getting those 20 reps in, but I'm doing it in two sets, rather than in one set.

02:17:48.000 And so then I'll just do...

02:17:50.000 Multiple sets to get the same amount of work in.

02:17:54.000 I think I heard him describing this to you.

02:17:56.000 It's the amount of work.

02:17:59.000 Yes. Right.

02:17:59.000 So he's outworked you.

02:18:02.000 Yes. Because he's done more reps.

02:18:04.000 But you have to have time, and you will feel like a lazy bitch because you're doing your set, but then your heart rate's completely dropped down before you do it again.

02:18:14.000 Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:18:15.000 I take a long time.

02:18:16.000 I watch TV.

02:18:17.000 I'll get on my phone.

02:18:18.000 I fuck off.

02:18:18.000 I sit down.

02:18:19.000 And you feel like a lazy bitch, but I'm doing it over two plus hours.

02:18:23.000 Wow. So when it's all over, I'm getting a lot of reps, but I'm not getting the same breakdown of form.

02:18:32.000 So the way he says it is, he says that strength is a skill and that you shouldn't be doing skills when you're exhausted.

02:18:39.000 Yeah. He doesn't believe in like CrossFit and like all these workouts where you're going to like extreme repetitions where you're breaking down your body.

02:18:49.000 People get injured that way.

02:18:51.000 Yeah, they do.

02:18:52.000 And some people don't, but these are elite athletes, and you build yourself up to it, and I understand.

02:18:57.000 I'm not against CrossFit.

02:18:58.000 Have you noticed that you've gotten a lot stronger?

02:19:02.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:04.000 By doing it this way?

02:19:06.000 Well, this is the thing.

02:19:07.000 I don't bench press, but one time we were doing this podcast, and we were drinking, and we were drunk, and we all went to see.

02:19:14.000 I don't bench press, but I bench press 225 13 times, and I don't do it.

02:19:20.000 I don't know.

02:19:20.000 I was like, let's see.

02:19:22.000 And I was like, yep.

02:19:23.000 But that's no bench pressing.

02:19:24.000 I don't bench press.

02:19:25.000 What do you do for your chest?

02:19:26.000 I do push-ups.

02:19:27.000 I do 100 push-ups a day, and I do dips.

02:19:31.000 That's it.

02:19:32.000 Yeah, dips are great.

02:19:34.000 Yeah, so I don't have a big chest.

02:19:35.000 So what else do you do?

02:19:37.000 supplement with.

02:19:38.000 So you take like...

02:19:39.000 Creatine every day.

02:19:40.000 Creatine is amazing.

02:19:41.000 Every day.

02:19:41.000 I think, you know, especially for women, by the way, I think if you're a female and you're 40 years or older, you need to be taken.

02:19:46.000 I think it's great for your mind, too.

02:19:48.000 It's great for cognitive function.

02:19:50.000 Cognitive function and also cognitive function if you're sleep impaired.

02:19:54.000 It's one of the few things that's shown that can completely diminish the effects of sleep deprivation.

02:20:00.000 You should most certainly make up for that sleep.

02:20:03.000 Don't get me wrong.

02:20:04.000 I'm not saying you don't need sleep, just take creatine.

02:20:05.000 You definitely need sleep.

02:20:07.000 We were talking about this the other day.

02:20:08.000 I think it's one of the most important things that people neglect.

02:20:12.000 I think so too.

02:20:13.000 So I take creatine every day.

02:20:16.000 I take all the supplements that you recommended to me, TMG, methylfolate.

02:20:21.000 I take lots of vitamin D, K2, all that jazz.

02:20:26.000 Do you take that 10x optimized?

02:20:28.000 Do you take the multivitamin or do you take them separately?

02:20:31.000 I take everything separately.

02:20:33.000 I use Pure Encapsulations Vitamin Packs.

02:20:35.000 Yeah. Those are good.

02:20:36.000 So they have a pack that has like...

02:20:38.000 Basically all your shit, and then on top of that, I pile on...

02:20:42.000 You know, one other thing that I've started taking, that I've been taking actually for a while, that I...

02:20:45.000 I was having a decrease in my eyesight, and it was pretty noticeable as, you know, age-related macular degeneration.

02:20:52.000 So I started taking macular support by pure encapsulations.

02:20:56.000 That seems to have had an effect, but really what's had an effect is the red light bed.

02:21:00.000 I know.

02:21:00.000 The red light bed has had a big effect.

02:21:02.000 I've told people, like, you text me, and you're like, bro, my eyesight is totally improved.

02:21:05.000 Mine too.

02:21:06.000 Stop deteriorating and start...

02:21:07.000 It improved slightly.

02:21:08.000 Yeah. It's definitely where the point where I can look at my phone and I don't need glasses.

02:21:12.000 Because I was using reading glasses all the time when I was looking at my phone.

02:21:15.000 And now I don't need them at all anymore.

02:21:17.000 Yeah. I would definitely, red light therapy.

02:21:22.000 I would add what I gave you the other day, those perfect aminos, which is just essentially the nine essential amino acids.

02:21:30.000 You know, we talk about how most people are trying to dose protein so they can get to the amino acid equivalent, or they're taking imperfect proteins or incomplete proteins like collagen, which is a great protein, but it won't build muscle.

02:21:44.000 But this is an important point, too.

02:21:45.000 You were talking about the other day that collagen does not build collagen.

02:21:48.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that the idea that we can target direct proteins is a fallacy.

02:21:53.000 You know, I use the analogy that we don't eat our nails to grow our nails, and we don't eat our hair to grow our hair, but we think that we can eat collagen to grow collagen, and that's actually not true.

02:22:03.000 I'm not anti-collagen, I'm just saying if you eat collagen or put collagen in your coffee, it doesn't show up as collagen in your skin.

02:22:10.000 My preference would be you take something that is a Has all of the nine essential amino acids.

02:22:16.000 I take one called Perfect Aminos, but there's other products out there that are all nine essential amino acids.

02:22:21.000 You take...

02:22:22.000 Can I pour that into the water with the...

02:22:27.000 Hydrogen? With the electrolytes in it?

02:22:29.000 100%. It's not going to have any diminished effect?

02:22:32.000 I think the best morning cocktail is to take a mineral salt, like a Baja Gold salt or a Celtic salt, add that to your drinking water.

02:22:42.000 Drop a hydrogen tablet in there, take a scoop of Perfect Aminos, put that in there, hydrate, mineralize, and get the amino acids.

02:22:50.000 Can I ask you another question about creatine?

02:22:52.000 Is there any decreased benefit in taking creatine gummies versus creatine powder?

02:22:57.000 You know, I haven't looked at the bioavailability.

02:23:01.000 I mean, there's...

02:23:02.000 Two types of creatine, which is, you know, monohydrate and HCL.

02:23:05.000 Monohydrate is where all of the research is.

02:23:07.000 There's a lot more research on creatine monohydrate.

02:23:11.000 But creatine also comes in the HCL, the hydrochloride form.

02:23:14.000 And I tell people that if they take creatine monohydrate and they have bloating, which some women do, they'll have a little water retention or some bloating, then just take the creatine HCL. 1.00

02:23:24.000 What about HMG with creatine?

02:23:27.000 No issues with that at all.

02:23:28.000 Is that a good thing?

02:23:29.000 Because I know that a lot of companies, they combine creatine and HMG for some reason.

02:23:34.000 Yes. What is the benefit of that, combining the two of them together?

02:23:37.000 So it's myofibril uptake or cellular uptake.

02:23:40.000 Right, so bioavailability is...

02:23:42.000 A lot of things that we pair together for bioavailability, like D3 with K2.

02:23:48.000 And magnesium as well, right?

02:23:50.000 Yeah, and magnesium is one of the critical deficiencies.

02:23:52.000 I always take that with D3 and K2.

02:23:54.000 That's good.

02:23:54.000 You take magnesium with D3 and K2.

02:23:56.000 That's perfect.

02:23:57.000 That's a way that wouldn't...

02:23:58.000 Can you take too much magnesium?

02:24:01.000 You can take too much magnesium.

02:24:02.000 It's a little hard.

02:24:03.000 I mean, it's a really essential light metal.

02:24:05.000 I mean, you have to really over-supplement with that.

02:24:07.000 I take a nighttime...

02:24:08.000 I take this thing called, by bio-optimizers, called Magnesium Breakthrough, which has seven forms of magnesium in it.

02:24:17.000 I'm a big fan of that.

02:24:18.000 You can also isolate the magnesiums if you have trouble sleeping.

02:24:21.000 Magnesium 3 and 8 is really good.

02:24:24.000 Magnesium citrate and glycinate are good for intestinal motility.

02:24:27.000 So if you're not somebody that has regular bowel movements, magnesium deficiency is highly linked to poor intestinal motility.

02:24:34.000 So if you're not somebody that wakes up within 45 minutes of the day and has a bowel movement, You may want to look to magnesium supplementation the night prior and see if that fixes your bowel movement.

02:24:47.000 Also, people that ruminate at night, they lay down to go to sleep and their body tired, but their mind awake.

02:24:54.000 This is generally a rise in something called catecholamines, these neurotransmitters in the brain that create a waking state.

02:25:01.000 They're also the same neurotransmitters that create anxiety and trigger our fight or flight response.

02:25:07.000 A lot of times, magnesium Methylfolate and a simple B-complex will quiet those squirrels.

02:25:16.000 Very, very simple methylated nutrients to actually break down those catecholamines.

02:25:23.000 Because, you know, I talk about this all the time.

02:25:25.000 A lot of people that suffer from anxiety are never really told what it is.

02:25:30.000 Like, nobody sits them down and tells them, what is anxiety?

02:25:33.000 Like, why do I feel...

02:25:35.000 Why... Sometimes I feel like I'm in a heightened state of awareness.

02:25:39.000 And then I move from a heightened state of awareness to being anxious.

02:25:43.000 And then I move from being anxious to full-blown anxiety.

02:25:46.000 Like I actually feel the presence of a fear.

02:25:48.000 And then, you know, sometimes that presence of a fear goes into like a rapid heart rate or acute hearing.

02:25:57.000 Pupils dilate, and then that goes into a full-blown panic attack.

02:25:59.000 And if catecholamines continue to rise, you can even have a full-blown paranoia.

02:26:03.000 It's this rise in this category of neurotransmitters called catecholamines.

02:26:08.000 So if we identified anxiety as that, and I'm not saying it's always that, but the majority of people have that form where they have metabolism issues because of a gene mutation called CompT, and they are worriers.

02:26:24.000 Not warriors.

02:26:25.000 So they lay down to go to sleep at night, their mind wakes up.

02:26:29.000 They start ruminating thoughts at night.

02:26:31.000 If they think about anything at night, they'll take it straight to worst case scenario.

02:26:35.000 So every scenario that they ruminate on at night, they take it to worst case scenario.

02:26:40.000 That's crazy that that could be nutritionally related.

02:26:43.000 It's absolutely nutritionally related because when you talk about what do catecholamines do in the body?

02:26:50.000 They're our fight or flight response.

02:26:51.000 So if you walked out of this door right here and somebody was standing in front of you with a knife right in that hallway, your side's kicking their ass.

02:26:59.000 Your pupils would dilate.

02:27:00.000 Your heart rate would increase.

02:27:01.000 Your extremities would flood with blood.

02:27:03.000 Your hearing would get acute.

02:27:04.000 You would instantly start having a fight or flight response.

02:27:06.000 Well, what happened?

02:27:07.000 Right? I mean, that person didn't do anything to you yet.

02:27:10.000 What happened inside of your body that caused that response?

02:27:13.000 You received a dump of catecholamines.

02:27:18.000 Norepinephrine, epinephrine, federone, and dopamine.

02:27:21.000 One of those we call adrenaline.

02:27:22.000 So,

02:27:24.000 So you're in this hyper-acute state.

02:27:26.000 So that's like we dump those to an eight, full-blown fight-or-flight response.

02:27:32.000 Well, what happens if we dump them to a three?

02:27:35.000 Well, if that happens at night, you're body-tired, but your mind awake.

02:27:39.000 And so you lay there just ruminating because your mind is in awakened state, even though your body is tired.

02:27:44.000 And so if you look at the pathways that actually break down catecholamines, how do we down-regulate catecholamines?

02:27:51.000 Complex of B vitamins, a form of B12 called methylcobalamin, which you can get anywhere, guys.

02:28:01.000 Something called methylfolate.

02:28:05.000 And every once in a while, Sammy, as the dentist of methionine, it is astounding what you can do to human beings by putting those raw materials back.

02:28:14.000 Has anybody ever done a study on people with paranoid schizophrenia to find out if they're lacking in all this?

02:28:20.000 No doubt.

02:28:20.000 Paranoid schizophrenias are the next level.

02:28:22.000 You know, what's really interesting is I interviewed a Harvard physician on my podcast, and he was treating drug-resistant mental illness with diet, mainly keto diets.

02:28:35.000 And he found that the beta-hydroxybutyrate, which is the ketone body, the main ketone body in this, and basic supplementation, fixing their methylation pathways, meaning supplementing for methylation,

02:28:50.000 poor conversion of certain chemicals, led to better behavioral changes than they were having in the drug-resistant.

02:29:03.000 And it's really fascinating because we don't like to think that nutrient deficiencies could lead to serious mental illness.

02:29:12.000 Could you just Google methylation chart?

02:29:17.000 Can I just show you a chart of methylation?

02:29:19.000 The reason why I want to put it up here is because, and just click on any one of them once you put it up there.

02:29:25.000 It's going to look like this complicated myriad.

02:29:28.000 Just click on that one.

02:29:30.000 So this is something I've committed to memory.

02:29:31.000 But the reason why I show a lot of people this chart is for what's not on here.

02:29:38.000 So this is what we call methylation.

02:29:40.000 This is the process that's going on 300 billion times a day inside of all of your cells.

02:29:47.000 And you'll see tryptophan and tyrosine and phenylalanine and quinoa gas and lactic acid cholesterol.

02:29:52.000 You see all of this stuff on this chart.

02:29:55.000 The reason why I show people this chart.

02:29:57.000 Is because this is going on 300 billion times a day inside of your body.

02:30:02.000 Every minute, every hour of every day.

02:30:04.000 And what you do not see on this chart is a single synthetic, a single chemical, or a single pharmaceutical.

02:30:12.000 So why is it that we think synthetics, pharmaceuticals, and chemicals could be the answer to deficiencies in this chart?

02:30:21.000 They're not.

02:30:22.000 So what happens if I just start wandering around this chart and I find something like serotonin?

02:30:30.000 I go, wow, let me just...

02:30:32.000 Serotonin is the main driver of mood.

02:30:35.000 I wonder how serotonin is made.

02:30:38.000 Oh, I actually...

02:30:39.000 In fact, there's serotonin right there.

02:30:41.000 What is it made from?

02:30:42.000 Just follow that arrow up.

02:30:43.000 Oh, it's made from tryptophan.

02:30:46.000 And what do I need in order to convert tryptophan to serotonin?

02:30:50.000 I need...

02:30:51.000 5-HTP.

02:30:52.000 I need thiamine.

02:30:53.000 I need a complex of B vitamins.

02:30:56.000 Could it be possible that a complex of B vitamins is stopping me from converting tryptophan into serotonin?

02:31:02.000 Yes. And what happens if I can't convert tryptophan into serotonin?

02:31:05.000 Serotonin drops.

02:31:06.000 And if serotonin drops, I cannot assemble moods that require serotonin.

02:31:10.000 So now I've been told I have a mood disorder and I have a nutrient deficiency.

02:31:14.000 Look at this.

02:31:16.000 Anxiety, ADD, ADHD.

02:31:17.000 See that on there?

02:31:19.000 Okay. What do we make dopamine from?

02:31:23.000 Phenylalanine and tyrosine.

02:31:25.000 What if I had a deficiency in phenylalanine or tyrosine?

02:31:28.000 Oh, I couldn't make the neurotransmitter dopamine.

02:31:30.000 What is dopamine?

02:31:31.000 Dopamine is the main driver of behavior.

02:31:33.000 Well, what happens if dopamine is low?

02:31:35.000 Now I have an addiction.

02:31:37.000 Why? Because the...

02:31:39.000 Absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction.

02:31:41.000 So could I have addictive behavior because I'm low in dopamine and not actually just addicted to nicotine, alcohol, drugs, promiscuity, gambling?

02:31:49.000 Absolutely. And why is it that most addictions have a tendency to shift and never really go away?

02:31:55.000 if you've ever really been an addict or ever known a true addict why is it that their addiction has a tendency to shift and not go away yeah like some of them find a healthy thing to get addicted to like running yeah there'll be a

02:32:09.000 Alcoholics become workaholics. 0.90

02:32:10.000 Workaholics become workoutaholics. 0.96

02:32:12.000 When I used to compete amateur in long-distance triathlons, most of the guys that I raced with were recovering addicts of some kind.

02:32:23.000 Some of the scariest guys I've ever trained with were former drug addicts.

02:32:27.000 Because this is their new...

02:32:29.000 They're fucking driven in a weird kind of crazy way.

02:32:33.000 Why are they driven so hard?

02:32:35.000 Well, some of them actually almost died.

02:32:38.000 I've been to death's door and come back.

02:32:41.000 The absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction.

02:32:45.000 And we never treat the dopamine deficiency.

02:32:47.000 We only treat the physical addiction.

02:32:49.000 So we get you off alcohol and now you're on Suboxone.

02:32:52.000 You get you off Suboxone and now you're gambling.

02:32:54.000 You're off gambling and smoking cigarettes.

02:32:56.000 You're done smoking cigarettes.

02:32:58.000 So a lot of Alcoholics Anonymous people are smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee constantly.

02:33:02.000 Now, why is that?

02:33:03.000 Because they're chasing the dopamine deficiency.

02:33:05.000 Rarely, if ever, did a true addict wake up one day and just say, I want to get really banged up.

02:33:13.000 The majority of addicts woke up one day and said, I want to feel normal.

02:33:17.000 And it was the search for normalcy that developed the addiction.

02:33:22.000 They smoked a cigarette, they felt normal.

02:33:24.000 They took a drink and they could socialize.

02:33:27.000 They were promiscuous and they kind of felt normal.

02:33:28.000 They jumped off a fucking mountain in a squirrel suit and the rush of dopamine actually brought their dopamine level to normal.

02:33:35.000 They actually felt calm 15 inches away from death.

02:33:39.000 And so the deficiency in dopamine very often drives this.

02:33:43.000 And we label these people with mental illnesses.

02:33:46.000 We label them with mood disorders.

02:33:50.000 But serotonin is a Part of the recipe of mood.

02:33:55.000 So if you said to me, what is a mood?

02:33:57.000 What is an emotional state?

02:33:58.000 I would say it's a collection of neurotransmitters bound to oxygen.

02:34:03.000 So let's say that you said, okay, what's happiness?

02:34:06.000 Okay, there's so much serotonin, so much dopamine, so much norepinephrine, so much epinephrine.

02:34:10.000 Boom, you put these together, you have the emotion of happiness.

02:34:13.000 Well, what if I just took serotonin out?

02:34:16.000 Right? Like, what if I went to a bakery chef and said, hey, chef, you can bake whatever you want.

02:34:20.000 You just can't use butter.

02:34:22.000 And so I took butter out.

02:34:24.000 It doesn't sound like a big deal.

02:34:26.000 It's only one component.

02:34:28.000 But think of how many recipes that would affect.

02:34:30.000 Cookies, pastries, pies, brownies.

02:34:32.000 Well, moods are no different.

02:34:35.000 I say, Joe, you can be in whatever mood you want.

02:34:37.000 You just can't use serotonin.

02:34:39.000 So now any mood that you go to assemble that requires serotonin, you can't manufacture.

02:34:46.000 So now you have a mood disorder.

02:34:49.000 Instead of taking a step back and saying, well, You mean if I'm deficient in certain vitamins or nutrients?

02:35:20.000 That methylation cycle is not working?

02:35:21.000 Am I not producing serotonin and therefore I might have a mood disorder?

02:35:24.000 Yes. Am I saying that all mood disorders come from that?

02:35:26.000 No. But there are so many things that come from this methylation cycle that are so potentially easy to fix with basic supplementation.

02:35:38.000 For two years in our initial clinic, my wife and I and our doctor, we pulled blood work.

02:35:47.000 I think it was about 1,600 Patients or so that came through our clinic.

02:35:51.000 We pulled blood work and we pulled these basic biomarkers, CBC, ECMP, lipid panel, hormone panel, and nutrient deficiencies.

02:35:59.000 And then we also pulled this methylation test, right?

02:36:02.000 Looking at five genes of methylation.

02:36:05.000 And you can get these methylation tests done anywhere.

02:36:09.000 And we looked at these five genes.

02:36:10.000 And then what we would do is we would solve with supplementation for the genetic deficiency and watch what happened to the blood biomarkers.

02:36:20.000 you would see kidney filtration rates improve.

02:36:22.000 You would see waste elimination, like people become more regular.

02:36:26.000 You would see C-reactive protein, these non-specific markers of inflammation drop.

02:36:31.000 You would certainly see things like homocysteine drop.

02:36:34.000 People have that very, very high levels of homocysteine.

02:36:36.000 You supplement them with the right nutrients, a B-complex, something called trimethylglycine, and they start to break down homocysteine.

02:36:43.000 And then all of a sudden they're reporting that their blood pressure is returning to normal and have

02:36:48.000 Less frequent headaches.

02:36:49.000 It is astounding to me how many people are just nutrient deficient and don't accept that basic supplementation or, oh, we can get everything from diet bullshit.

02:36:59.000 If you look at a soil lineage study from 1945 and a soil lineage study right now, you would be astounded to see how depleted our soil is.

02:37:08.000 Add processed food and all this other stuff to it, you don't stand a chance.

02:37:11.000 You need basic supplementation.

02:37:15.000 All human beings need the same.

02:37:17.000 Thanks. We need two essential fatty acids.

02:37:19.000 Essential means they're essential for life.

02:37:22.000 You need nine essential amino acids.

02:37:25.000 So you can supplement with the nine essential amino acids in the morning.

02:37:28.000 You can supplement with the two essential fatty acids, omega-3 fatty acids like black seed oil or good mega fish oil.

02:37:35.000 You can supplement with the minerals.

02:37:38.000 So many of us are mineral deficient and we don't realize the expression of mineral deficiency.

02:37:46.000 Now, what is the best kind of minerals to take?

02:37:49.000 Is it like chelated minerals?

02:37:50.000 Is it colloidal minerals?

02:37:52.000 I take one called Baja Gold Sea Salt.

02:37:54.000 It's probably one of my other favorite biohacks because a bag of Baja Gold Sea Salt, like a Celtic salt, will have all these trace minerals in it.

02:38:03.000 A $15 bag will last you five years.

02:38:05.000 It's dirt cheap.

02:38:08.000 And you can take a quarter to a half teaspoon of this, put it in...

02:38:12.000 You're drinking water.

02:38:13.000 I'll throw a hydrogen tablet in there and some amino acids.

02:38:16.000 Take that with a methylated multivitamin and take that with an omega-3 fatty acid.

02:38:22.000 And you have all the bases covered first thing in the morning.

02:38:25.000 And you don't have to take that with the vitamins with food?

02:38:28.000 I would take the vitamin D3 with food.

02:38:31.000 I would actually take all of that.

02:38:32.000 I would take the amino acids and the hydrogen and the sea salt.

02:38:39.000 And the amino acids you take on an empty stomach.

02:39:01.000 Amino acids you take on an empty stomach.

02:39:03.000 And those amino acids, those perfect amino acids, won't break a fast.

02:39:08.000 They're non-caloric, or they have, I think, one calorie.

02:39:11.000 But they won't break a fast.

02:39:13.000 And now you have all nine of the essential amino acids.

02:39:15.000 You've got the majority of the essential minerals.

02:39:18.000 You've hydrated yourself, and you put hydrogen gas into your blood.

02:39:22.000 You will feel the difference.

02:39:24.000 You'll just feel cleaner.

02:39:25.000 And it's a simple thing to do.

02:39:27.000 And it's such a simple thing to do.

02:39:29.000 And I get so much flack for telling people to do that.

02:39:31.000 I'm like, this is just getting us back to the basic.

02:39:35.000 Dude, it's crazy.

02:39:36.000 It's just too many crazy people.

02:39:38.000 Yeah, I'm going to have to start shutting it all off.

02:39:40.000 Yeah, you have to.

02:39:41.000 It'll make your life a lot better.

02:39:43.000 You know what you're doing.

02:39:43.000 Yeah, thank you.

02:39:44.000 And people are listening.

02:39:46.000 And it's working.

02:39:47.000 There's just too many people out there that are crying for attention.

02:39:51.000 And one of the ways they get attention is by attacking people who are getting positive attention.

02:39:56.000 Yeah. Yeah.

02:39:57.000 It's a shame.

02:39:58.000 Fuck those people.

02:40:00.000 Fuck those people.

02:40:01.000 Anything else we should talk about before we wrap this up?

02:40:04.000 I think we covered a lot.

02:40:05.000 People are going to have to review this and go back and forth.

02:40:08.000 I love coming out here and chopping it up with you, man.

02:40:10.000 I love having you on, man.

02:40:11.000 I'll see you at the fights tomorrow, too.

02:40:12.000 Yes, sir.

02:40:12.000 I'm excited.

02:40:13.000 Yeah, tomorrow's the weigh-ins and then Saturday night's the fights.

02:40:16.000 I'm pumped.

02:40:17.000 And by the way, dude, Joe Rogan on the Ultimate Human podcast.

02:40:20.000 Yes, I did your podcast as well.

02:40:22.000 That was cool because we went down some rabbit holes, man.

02:40:25.000 It was fun.

02:40:27.000 The pyramids.

02:40:28.000 Yeah, we talked about a lot of cool shit.

02:40:29.000 Yeah, a lot of cool shit on there.

02:40:31.000 Well, thank you, Gary.

02:40:32.000 Thank you very much for everything.

02:40:33.000 I really appreciate you.

02:40:34.000 Tell everybody your website, how they can get a hold of you.

02:40:37.000 Sure. You can go to theultimatehuman.com.

02:40:41.000 I have a VIP community there where all I do is just teach.

02:40:44.000 I try to educate to inspire so that people will make a change.

02:40:47.000 So you can join my VIP community there.

02:40:49.000 I'll give you a...

02:40:50.000 Discount on joining the VIP community.

02:40:52.000 I'll send you a free box of each two tabs for joining up.

02:40:56.000 TheUltimateHuman.com The podcast is The Ultimate Human and just my name, Gary Barca.

02:41:00.000 Alright. Gary, you're the man.

02:41:01.000 Thank you, brother.

02:41:02.000 Appreciate you.

02:41:03.000 Alright, bye everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 11, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2304 - Gary Brecka

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