Joe Rogan Experience #2305 - Rich Vos
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2 hours and 55 minutes
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170.22049
Summary
Comedian Joe Rogan stops by the pod den to talk about how he got his start in comedy, his love of cars, and how to deal with the pressures of being an entertainer. Joe also talks about how his wife and kids are the most important things in his life and how he deals with it.
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Dude, you're fucking dripping with diamonds, sir.
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Like, it's like, you know, you go buy, you're like, oh, and then you get home and go, I hate my life.
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But I get to look at my just emptiness on, you know.
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I went in to get it serviced, and I was kind of depressed, so I bought a different car.
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On one year of my wife's birthday, I bought myself a new car on her birthday.
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I bought a BMW on her birthday with happy birthday.
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And it's because of, you know, in life, in life, really, like, I see some of my friends doing arenas, doing this, doing that.
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Yeah. I think for my career, not for my personal life.
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My personal life, I got three fucking great daughters, three grandkids, another one on the way.
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My seven-year-old is going to go to college, has pick of all kinds of schools, you know.
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In 11th grade, I raised my hand and go to the bathroom, and I never came back.
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Okay, the old one married a black guy, but he's light-skinned.
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But when it comes to career as a comic, and you know...
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And I'm very blessed and I love what I've achieved in this business, but it seems like it's always like...
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When every pilot my wife and I have had together, or I've had, gets this close to getting picked up.
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I walked out and go, that was the best no today.
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Do you think you put something in your mind to make all these things kind of fall short?
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Yeah. Do you ever thought that maybe the way you interface with the world is like your expectations are tempered?
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Like in a way where you almost want to fail because it's more comforting that it happened again rather than this new thing of success, which is going to force you to really focus and work harder to get more success.
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And then you think about all the times you fucked up before and you don't want to hear no again.
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You don't want to hear it, but you feel like it's coming and you almost make it come.
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In life growing up, From my childhood through drug addiction, I became comfortable being uncomfortable.
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In this business, I don't really ever set myself up for failure.
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I'll probably make an eighth album, which is a pretty...
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But my wife says the exact same thing you're saying.
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She said, because I had this power of thinking, like, when I think really hard, it comes to me shit, right?
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And my wife goes, if you think you deserve a million dollars, you'll get a million dollars.
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And I said, God gives you what you need, not what you want.
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And then she said, do you think Chelsea Handler needed a TV show?
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So she kind of, like, debunked my whole need, you know, and want thing.
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If you believe in some kind of power greater than you, I'm not religious by any fucking...
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I don't screw things up like, you know, in meetings or when we do pilots or whatever.
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I mean, in comedy, yeah, for years I might have been a little aggressive on stage or, you know, a little whatever.
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You know, I think everything now, especially now with clubs or whatever, it's all numbers.
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If you light the waitstaff on fire, if you sold out the room, oh great, you were fabulous.
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I was working catch years ago, I was at catch, and Bill Hicks, okay, so David Brenner's on stage, and they love David Brenner.
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He gets off, Bill Hicks goes up, and he says, Growing up as a kid, I would see Robert Klein and David Brenner, and I figured if they could do it, I could do it.
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So, now he's doing his bit about Nancy Reagan, skinny, whatever, and calling her the Antichrist.
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But anyhow, the manager or booker, now after I said to him, you can come and do a spot here anytime you want, because he was Bill Hicks.
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There's a lot of these young kids now that listen, okay?
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So a cab driver takes them to one house because they would take you to the...
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And she opens the door and goes, you're a cop, and slammed the door on him.
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Then he went, but he also, the next place the cab driver took him, she opened the door and goes, you're too young, and slammed the door on him.
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The next night, he did 10 minutes or whatever on how he can't get...
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I go, I'll never be this funny as long as I fucking live.
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I've told this story and it's been told, but I don't know if I told it years ago when I did this.
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It's not understanding the energy that you're putting out there and being accustomed to a certain result.
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If you're accustomed to missing your playing pool, you're accustomed to missing the nine ball, you're going to miss that fucking nine ball every time.
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You gotta reset the way you think about things.
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And if there's something that's eating away at you, that bothers you, that occupies your thoughts, you have to figure out what that is and clean that up.
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That's a big part of the problem with a lot of people.
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A lot of the problem with a lot of people is maybe they don't like something about themselves, they don't like what they've done, they don't like choices they've made, and that's in your head all the time.
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The lack of clarity, the lack of peace is in your head all the time.
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I'm not saying this is like, okay, here's the real formula.
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Just go out, follow these three steps, and you're going to be rich and famous.
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It's just that success generally happens when you've got as many pieces as possible in order correctly.
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And failure generally happens when you're overwhelmed by too many things that are not working right.
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You know, a lot of times you see it's like a terrible relationship.
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I've known a lot of really talented people that sabotage themselves with a terrible relationship.
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This is just how relationships are, and they're terrible in that relationship.
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They can never reach their full potential because they're always burdened down by these fucking squabbles they're having with their girlfriend or their boyfriend.
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That's also, too, a God thing where you think, I could fix this person or I could change him.
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Crying out his whole life, I would tell him,"Get out now." I would meet his girlfriend, I'd be like,"Get out now." I met one girl that he dated, I literally, within five seconds of saying hello to her, I'd go,"Come here." I pulled him aside.
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Later that night, she's drinking wine, she's fucking hamburger.
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She winds up living with him, eventually figures it out, gets rid of her.
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A couple years later, he's walking down the street on Sunset, and she's street walking.
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This fucking smoking hot girl comes up to me and she goes, come on, let's leave.
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I'm sitting there selling CDs and I see Brian walk out with her right past me up the stairs.
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Well, you definitely didn't because Bonnie's awesome.
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But it's, yeah, you definitely should have left with her.
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No, I shouldn't have because that in life is where I was supposed to be at that time when I was there.
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What if she's a nightmare and then you miss out on whatever, $400, $500 you would have made selling DVDs?
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You know, it's this whole negative thing with my...
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And this isn't ego by any stretch when I say stuff like this.
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And I've, and my wife, I know I've earned respect from my peers.
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Black comics that most white comics don't even know.
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Well, you did a lot of those rooms back in the day.
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So, and like, I think in life, I'm more about respect than accomplishment.
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So you're more about the respect from your peers.
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They're not sitting in the room watching your shows.
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All they care about are the fucking numbers that come in.
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I had a club owner once, I said to him, and you're lucky, you're way out of that, but I'm in that.
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So I said to a club owner once, he goes, I said, look, I'm as funny as I've ever been right now in life.
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But that's the weird marriage between the club owner and the comic.
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You know, I used to tell comics, you know, we're not...
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Every comic feels like they're battling it with club owners.
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Like the club owner's never giving them enough money.
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But I was like, this is an important relationship.
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You gotta be nice to them, and so they respect you.
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Because everybody in the beginning, you feel like you're ignored by them.
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But it's a weird thing, because they're just in the business of comedy.
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Unless you get like Brian Dorfman in Zanies, he really loves comedy.
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There's a few Wendy from Comedy Works in Denver.
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I'll turn my Wendy story in a few years for me.
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Well, Corey in Rhode Island's one of the best fucking nicest guys on the planet.
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The Comedy Connection in Rhode Island's weird because you're in a bank.
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He fixed the whole thing up, the whole camera system.
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Plus, there's not a lot in Rhode Island, so when you go there, people are so happy to see you.
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And the second time I worked there was Halloween weekend.
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I mean, there was a guy in the audience in blackface.
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She tells my manager, I did a lot of crowd work, whatever.
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So anyhow, I'm working at Syracuse Funny Bone, and my middle, very funny guy, I think he passed away, he was an older guy, really great joke writer.
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And he sees that I'm closing, and he goes, I'll talk to her.
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And I go, hey, listen, why don't we start from scratch?
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So I write, by your lack of response, it looks like you want to move forward.
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Shocker. And I write, can I bring my own metal?
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And, you know, I'm saying, I'm not bad-mouthing any of these people.
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Because you bad-mouth, you're the one who looks bad.
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Whatever she's got to do, just like any of them.
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If this is who they're going to bring in to keep their doors open, I'll always find fucking work.
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Yes. So, and industry-wise, I mean, now it's a whole...
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Look, my wife is killing it because she's a writer and a comic.
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God, when I quit cigars, I quit cigars because I was scared I was going to start smoking.
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I probably would because it would lead, you know.
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That's why, you know, I can't even put a dick in my mouth because I'm scared.
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So, you know, she has different outlets as a stand-up.
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I love, you know, I do theaters, I do whatever, but I love doing, I really like doing clubs.
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So it sounds like you're doing exactly what you want to do.
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I don't think there is a problem, but I said just one more thing to put it over the top.
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I'm an addict, you know, so look, here's my fucking...
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Now... I have seven bird feeders around my property because I figured, well, this will be seven times more relaxing.
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I mean, I got ones that I, with a video camera, I could see who's coming, the squirrel.
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I don't care if the squirrel eats the, you know, but it's my addictive personality.
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Do you still feel the pull after all these years?
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Well, I mean, once in a while, I'll play on my phone at night slots.
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I gotta say, slots on your phone sounds like the dumbest fucking idea.
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Well, slots in the casino is the biggest sucker bet on the planet.
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If I'm going to gamble on a machine, I'm going to play craps like a man.
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You know what drives me fucking crazy when I hear that?
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Someone hits the slots and they won't give out.
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Wow. But now I keep playing, think I'll get more.
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I have a friend who's very wealthy and is a fucking degenerate gamble.
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I was just reading an article about Hunter Campbell, who's a financial officer, was trying to talk to him, just saying, you're killing me.
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I was in Vegas, and I walked to the table with 300 bucks, crap table.
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I'm winning everybody formula and diapers at the table.
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And it's just such a, you know, and then for the rest of the week, I didn't gamble again because I go, I can't follow that.
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You know, I've been to casinos and worked for three, four days and not even played.
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But when I do, it's like my wife and I were in Canada and we went to a casino.
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I go, well, let me go back to the hotel and put my credit cards and money there.
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And she goes, you can't go into a casino with all your money and credit cards.
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You guys are one of the funniest couples of all time, though.
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There's like a few, like Christina Pazitzky and Tom Segura, Natasha Leggero, Moshe Kasher.
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There's a few, like, you know, people say, like, comics shouldn't date comics.
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Well, I don't know about that, because sometimes it fucking works really well.
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You know, we really come together when we find the same enemy and the same person we could trash.
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Yeah, we fight and have all the fucking, you know, we're a married couple.
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Well, to be a male comic, you gotta be fucked up.
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To be a female comic, that's a whole other level of fucking up.
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Because, you know, they go on the road, they gotta worry about...
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Yeah, they gotta worry about fans attacking them.
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I was using it as an example, because comics will say all the time, don't date comics.
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I don't know about that, because I don't think you should never date blah.
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Although I stopped dating Italians when I was 21. Oh, yeah?
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As she was swinging, I was like, I can't believe she's swinging at me.
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Like, while this was happening, her arm was pulling back.
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It was coming towards my face like, I can't fucking believe this is happening.
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Irish. Like, I can't afford a Jew broad, so I went fucking Irish.
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I'd rather go to fucking Marshalls than Barneys.
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Well, also, the thing about Jewish women, the stereotype, is that they're very controlling.
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It's like you take that role of the mom of the house, then your wife becomes your mom.
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Yeah. And I mean, look, fucking Bonnie grew up on a farm killing chickens.
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Perfect. She's good for when the revelation comes.
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You know, they had a fucking, they slept on the floor.
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I mean, I was already in the business for I don't know how many years.
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Yeah, well, if you're a new comic, and they're a new comic, it's going to be competition the whole time.
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But I was already established, and she was established.
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Even though we're all real good friends, we're all...
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No. I luckily came up with one of the strongest crews in New York.
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Patrice? Patrice, Norton, Billy, Bobby, Colin, you know, Kevin Hart.
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You knew me when I was doing Robin Gibbons bits.
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We were working a one-nighter in Seaside, New Jersey.
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And me, you, and her took a walk to the boardwalk.
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I think you were just doing some shows, some one-nighters and shit.
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Oh, that doesn't even make sense, because I've been doing comedy for 30, let me see, 87, 37 years.
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Okay, so then, okay, I was with Bonnie, so, I mean, Kelly, so I had, you're right, I had.
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90 was when I first started coming to New York.
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So it was maybe like 34 years ago, or 35. So yeah, we're working a one-nighter, and I remember walking up the street, me, you, and Bonnie, to the boardwalk.
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To the boardwalk, and it was just some one-nighter.
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Oh, we did a lot of Dangerfields shows together.
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So, New York has a very weird thing where they take kids from, like, Staten Island and Brooklyn, and they bring them in in fucking buses.
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To Dangerfields, and the show would run from like 7 p.m. till 5 in the morning.
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Just you would go one show, and you'd get paid by the show.
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I forget what it was, but it was like, you get paid by, like you can make a couple grand in a night if you did the whole night.
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So you would do stand-up from 7 p.m. till like 5 a.m.
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But sometimes some of the shows were the same, some of the same crowd.
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And they wanted you to do the same joke so that the kids would leave.
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And this is all young kids, you know, getting ready to go to college.
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And all these kids are just, they're all looking at him like the jury from My Cousin Vinny.
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When they were looking at the stuttering lawyer, their eyes were just going, what is going on with this man?
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And then I think Brian Regan had to follow him.
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And the fact, I mean, if you look at your career and some of mine and Brian Regan, we were doing prom shows.
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Yeah. I did, I did a, there was a contest at Rascals and I think the winner got to do comedy on a plane.
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Yeah, and I think John Stort was one of the contestants.
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Like, I remember doing, I remember doing, or else it was a Johnny Walker competition.
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I was there, it was like me, John Stort, Jim Gaffigan, you know, to do some Johnny Walker tour.
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I don't fucking know whatever the contest was, but it was all these contests.
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I was working one club once, and after the show, it was in Scranton, PA at a Holiday Inn, me and another comic.
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After the show, the owner brings us in the back room and pulls out a gigantic bag of Coke and says, do you want Coke or money?
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And the guy who took the money is Adam Sandler, and look where he is, and look where I am.
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That was a Nick's Comedy Stop thing, Coker Money.
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And I was getting high because when I first started comedy, somehow they...
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Dominic and Jackie Gateman or something, they liked me for some reason.
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I stunk, but they would give me spots at Nick's, and I would get either money or...
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But I would buy Coke from Mike, the drug dealer that the Colombians killed.
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I would stay behind the connection at the Milner Hotel, which was all prostitutes and drug addicts, right?
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And, you know, I would go up there, and Nick's was...
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So the one time, the last time I was up in Boston, I did Springfield Mass and Westfield Mass.
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So I'm working this place called Plums in Worcester.
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And I have one more show in Boston on a Sunday.
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And I have to drive her all the way back to Boston.
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We try to buy coke or heroin and we got ripped off.
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She's crying because she's going to lose her job.
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Fucking blood started pouring out of my nose as we're driving.
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Well. And then she goes, my sister wants an ounce of Coke.
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Well, anyhow, two weeks later, I end up in rehab.
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And about a year or two later, I'm working Fort Lauderdale.
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With her boyfriend, who's the size of a fucking house.
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So if I did rip her off, I would have gotten fucking the shit killed, beaten out of me.
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So that last trip to Boston, and I spent all the money I wasn't going to spend, but this girl was fucking hot, you know.
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Then I came out of rehab, and I think I had like a month or two months clean, and I'm working on Daytona Beach.
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She saw videos of me from Ralph's and she goes, you're such a mess, but you had so much confidence.
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Because I would be on stage, fucking rotten teeth and fucking grease dripping out of my hair.
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We go back to her place, and I'm making out with her, and something tastes funny.
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And she pulls out a bag of Coke, and I had like a month clean, two months.
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I mean, I fucked her, but then I left real quick, you know.
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You have one fall off, and you're like, I'm done.
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Well, I mean, here's, for me now, And, you know, as the years accumulated, you know, I was working, I was saving money, I was buying.
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You know, if I went and got high now, this watch alone would kill me.
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Right. You know, money I've hidden around the house.
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Don't even think, hey, we're going to go to Voss's house and find his money.
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Look, for a year, and I got to get back on track, I stopped eating, not keto, but cut back on carbs, sugar.
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And from my age, and it's harder, my daughter comes upstairs and goes, oh, I made homemade chocolate chip cookies.
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Well, the seventh cookie I had to throw in the garbage.
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Wow. You don't know anything about getting high.
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Do you know how many fucking arguments I've had?
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I thought you were going to bring in your whole pro-Palestinian crew that I was going to fight today.
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You don't ever lay in bed or have arguments with people that you've never had.
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And when the impulse comes, which it does, I go, this is stupid.
00:44:02.000
Most people have one voice in their head, and that voice is like, we should go get high, or we should do this.
00:44:09.000
And the second voice is like, what advice would I give me?
00:44:12.000
And the advice I'd give me is like, you're wasting your time arguing in the shower with someone who doesn't even...
00:44:20.000
You're like replaying it out in your head so you could have had a better thing to say to them.
00:44:25.000
They say they're living rent-free in your head.
00:44:33.000
I do, and I'm not religious by any, but I'll say, you know, God, get me off.
00:44:43.000
In life, you know, look, my main purpose in life, besides being, my main purpose is staying sober, because if I don't, I'm dead easily, and everything I throw away.
00:44:55.000
Then my family, obviously, you know, and my career, you know.
00:45:02.000
All the shit I put about Israel, this and that, that's, my life is comedy.
00:45:07.000
But I think in life, if you're not part of the...
00:45:12.000
Like I said, solution you're part of the problem with what's going on in this world, mainly in this country, the anti-Semitism in this country.
00:45:20.000
The anti-Semitism in this country is weird because it popped up like it was hiding.
00:45:24.000
You know, after October 7th, it popped up like it was hiding.
00:45:31.000
And I think there's a lot of it on Twitter in these places that I think is not human beings.
00:45:49.000
When someone says something outrageous on Twitter, I'll go to the account and see what they're doing.
00:46:06.000
Controversial subject and says something insightful.
00:46:17.000
There was an FBI analyst who took a look at Twitter before the purchase and he said, I think it's as much as 80% bots.
00:46:27.000
I think we're getting played as a civilization, back and forth.
00:46:32.000
I think so many people are vulnerable to following a narrative.
00:46:38.000
And I've said this, and I believe in free speech.
00:46:46.000
When we talked about this, you didn't agree with it.
00:46:51.000
What I said about the internet, that some people in life use that platform.
00:46:57.000
Shouldn't have a platform in life because they're nuts.
00:47:02.000
Like if you had somebody in the audience that's nuts, you're going to take them out.
00:47:08.000
Right, but that's the difference between an audience and the internet is you don't have to engage with the nuts.
00:47:13.000
Okay, but there's people that are following these nuts.
00:47:16.000
Okay, you take whatever's going on in the Middle East, whatever side you're on.
00:47:29.000
Why are college campuses letting this happen on campus where Jews can't go to class, where they're being harassed, where they feel threatened?
00:47:48.000
Whoever is doing it, most certainly there's funding and organization involved.
00:47:54.000
These aren't organic protests that just pop up.
00:47:57.000
Everybody wants to think they are because some people join organically.
00:48:04.000
Including the anti-Elon protests, including the end-to-oligarchy rallies that they have.
00:48:13.000
All this shit is getting funded and astroturfed and they're bussing people in.
00:48:26.000
And there's, I don't know how many that are getting funded and then they bring in, you know, it's just like...
00:48:42.000
I don't want to get into the 80s and foreclosures on farms.
00:48:49.000
Well, when banks were foreclosing on farms, Jews were going, look, the Jews are foreclosing on our farm to Jewish bankers.
00:49:02.000
Jews barely worked at Chase Manhattan in the early 80s or 70s.
00:49:10.000
You know, so throughout the Midwest or the South, it's easier to build up hatred or a group to go after a smaller group going, hey, these people are closing on your farms.
00:49:27.000
And these people don't have the knowledge and the hate just grows and grows from generation to generation.
00:49:43.000
Listen, I'm a comic, but you see what I post sometimes.
00:50:15.000
You know, if what was happening in this world to black people or gay people, these colleges would put an end to it.
00:50:24.000
If people were ripping down posters of hostages, of black hostages or gay hostages when that was happening...
00:50:36.000
That was crazy where people were upset that people wanted people to bring the hostages home.
00:50:41.000
Like, these hostages, some of them were aid workers.
00:50:44.000
Some of them were people that, like, lived there so they could help people in Gaza.
00:50:50.000
But I wonder, like, how did they get turned that way?
00:50:54.000
Or were they, like what I said, like they were in hiding?
00:50:59.000
As a person who's not a Jew, I would hear about all the anti-Semitism.
00:51:06.000
But then when this, after October 7th, it was just like, oh, Jesus.
00:51:17.000
Okay. If every surrounding country was attacked in Italy, you're going to fight back.
00:51:40.000
And I think that's also one of the things that people like.
00:51:45.000
When people get angry about Jews is because they think that Jews always stick together.
00:51:53.000
You know, there's like that walled garden approach, you know.
00:51:59.000
You got a manila envelope like you're in fucking court.
00:52:15.000
This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen from you.
00:52:23.000
Yeah, they're surrounded by a bunch of Muslims.
00:52:29.000
They should have probably moved to a different spot.
00:52:37.000
If you're a black guy and you move into a KKK neighborhood, that's like, you're going to have problems.
00:52:47.000
By any means necessary, they're gonna do what they fucking have to do to survive.
00:52:53.000
Yes. I totally think they would, and I understand that aspect of it.
00:53:07.000
It's not just that they're surrounded, but they're surrounded by everyone.
00:53:17.000
You go down Saudi Arabia, the end of it, you forget.
00:53:24.000
Fucking Iran, you know, they're being attacked by four or five different nations at once.
00:53:35.000
First of all, those numbers are coming from Hamas.
00:53:41.000
Where do you think those numbers are coming from?
00:53:43.000
Okay, but the drone footage isn't coming from Hamas.
00:53:47.000
If you cover Gaza with a drone, there's nothing left.
00:53:53.000
Well, I bet you if they released the hostages October 10th, none of this shit would have happened.
00:54:02.000
During the Clinton administration, Arafat was in the White House probably six or seven times.
00:54:10.000
The head of the CIA, during the Clinton administration, visited the White House twice.
00:54:27.000
But Arafat kept turning it down because Arafat's a terrorist.
00:54:31.000
And if he does that, what purpose does he serve?
00:54:38.000
Well, to me it is because I'm not the smartest.
00:54:46.000
And I've sat down and thought about this conflict.
00:54:53.000
And then now, after October 7th, with all the bombings, when they leveled Gaza, it's like, how do you fix this?
00:55:03.000
You've created whatever the numbers are, whether it's 70,000 people or 20,000 people that have been killed that are innocents.
00:55:12.000
You've created so many more potential terrorists because so many of the children of those people and the brothers and sisters and relatives of those people.
00:55:22.000
So it's like reinforced this desire to fight against Israel.
00:55:32.000
You could just keep pounding them down until there's nothing left, which is what it seems that they're doing.
00:55:38.000
But... And I understand it from a tactical perspective, I guess.
00:55:43.000
Do we have that animosity and hatred from Japan towards us where we dropped, you know, killed 350,000 people?
00:55:59.000
I had friends who'd go to Japan in the 70s and they said you could feel the hatred.
00:56:08.000
But it's a totally, completely different generation.
00:56:10.000
So you think future generations will think about Israel the same way we think about Japan?
00:56:18.000
No, because future generations in the Middle East, this has been going since day one, since the Six-Day War, since the Yom Kippur War, since day one they've been being attacked.
00:56:33.000
Well, it's also before Israel was founded, you got to go back to how they were being persecuted in Europe.
00:56:41.000
There's this guy, Daryl Cooper, is a lightning rod for controversy, unfortunately, but he's got an amazing podcast.
00:56:48.000
He's got this series called Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem.
00:56:51.000
And it starts out with the Jews being persecuted in Europe.
00:56:55.000
And he takes you through what it would have been like for those people and the gangs of people roaming down the streets, raping women.
00:57:11.000
And, you know, this was why they got so many people to move to Israel in the first place.
00:57:18.000
Yeah. Because when they said, look, we're setting up a state for just for Jews from all these Eastern European Jews are like, OK, we're in.
00:57:51.000
When did Jews first settle the land that's now known as Israel?
00:58:01.000
Miami. But also, this is like, you know, this is one of the reasons why this area is so contentious is because Christians really believe that when Jesus comes back, that's where he's going to come.
00:58:16.000
He's going to come back to Jerusalem like, are you fucking sure?
00:58:27.000
Jews have been a history in the land of Israel.
00:58:29.000
Their presence dating back to the second millennial BCE.
00:58:52.000
Second millennial BCE, the Israelites, considered to be the ancestors of the Jewish people, emerged as an outgrowth of the southern Canaanites.
00:58:59.000
The Israelites entered Canaan in 1250 BCE, settling the hill country in the south.
00:59:05.000
10th century BCE, two Israelite kingdoms, northern kingdom of Israel and the southern kingdom of Judea, emerged.
00:59:14.000
The Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Neo-Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE.
00:59:20.000
And in 586 BCE, the Kingdom of Judah was conquered by the Neo-Babylonian Empire.
00:59:26.000
538 BCE, the Persian Cyrus the Great ended the Babylonian exile and the Jews returned to their homeland.
00:59:34.000
So they've been there since 538 BCE, started in 1250 BCE.
00:59:41.000
Yeah. The Romans destroyed the second temple of Jerusalem in 70, current era, leading to the Jewish dysphoria.
00:59:49.000
Wow. Crazy fucking history of controversy in that one place.
00:59:55.000
Many Holocaust survivors welcomed it as a homeland.
00:59:58.000
Yeah, in 48. And since then, they've been at war.
01:00:14.000
Yeah, but the problem is, we're Palestinians there, and they don't even have a country.
01:00:19.000
If you've got people that are right next to you that don't even have a country, what do they do if they're ruled by Hamas?
01:00:37.000
Thousands and thousands of courageous people protesting in the street.
01:00:41.000
It's... They're like, we don't want any more of this.
01:00:46.000
I mean, Kus of Israel's help got Assad out of Syria.
01:00:55.000
Almost 500,000 of his own people tortured 100,000.
01:01:04.000
There's a lot of controversy about Assad in Syria.
01:01:05.000
There's a lot of controversy about what actually happened and why we were backing the rebels.
01:01:29.000
Well, also according to Israel, because Israel weakened Iran's military after they were attacked by Iran, who was supplying Assad with weapons.
01:01:42.000
Before Iran became a religious state, women were, like, wearing miniskirts.
01:02:07.000
See if you can find some photos of Iran early 1970s.
01:02:11.000
I was seeing some things on it this morning, actually, on the way over here.
01:02:18.000
It's so hard to imagine that a place that had a democratically elected leader was kind of almost European.
01:02:29.000
And then now, now it's just a full religious state.
01:02:34.000
And anybody who protests against the government gets assassinated.
01:02:38.000
They assassinated an Olympic gold medalist wrestler because he was...
01:02:48.000
Like if women take off their headscarves, they can get killed.
01:02:55.000
I don't get where gays or women or whatever are backing.
01:03:18.000
There's a lot of people out there that are just retarded, and those are the people that you see getting bust into these rallies, and there's just a lot of dopes that you can get to agree with almost anything.
01:03:27.000
And there's gay people for Hamas, believe it or not.
01:03:37.000
It's hard to tell how many of them are real because there's a few people that troll online and they'll pretend, you know, I'm a trans woman, but I'm also a Muslim.
01:03:56.000
Obviously, as a comic, I believe in the First Amendment.
01:04:04.000
Anyhow, I believe, and maybe I'm wrong and maybe you disagree.
01:04:23.000
Yeah. Look at the beaches in Iran in the 1970s.
01:04:33.000
The future's in the lower right corner, covered up like Yoda.
01:04:41.000
Like, look at these people all hanging out, being free.
01:05:08.000
I don't believe in a society where people walk around with their faces covered.
01:05:19.000
It's too hard to identify someone who commits a crime.
01:05:22.000
During the Vietnam protests, there was never a mask.
01:05:34.000
It was like, you know, there's a lot of configurations.
01:05:37.000
But now they're hiding and they're committing, to me, some crimes on campus, I think.
01:05:47.000
Well, they're certainly doing a lot of things they shouldn't be allowed to do, like disrupting classes and screaming at professors.
01:06:10.000
So we'll get off of this because I know we're kind of...
01:06:19.000
It is a good point though, but it's like when you have people that are...
01:06:25.000
These kind of conflicts take thousands of years to work through.
01:06:28.000
And in the case of Israel, it is thousands of years old.
01:06:34.000
It's... Look, how are they going to win anything through the UN when there's 22, 23 Arab countries in the UN and Israel?
01:07:11.000
I don't want her to go to a college where she feels scared to go to class.
01:07:29.000
They have concealed carry on college campuses here.
01:07:37.000
This is what America, like, is supposed to be in a lot of ways.
01:07:45.000
But, you know, there's a lot of laws here that are kind of crazy.
01:07:48.000
You know, the abortion thing, the six-week thing.
01:07:51.000
Most women don't even know they're pregnant that quickly.
01:08:02.000
If a lady, I think, does all her chores, I think once a week she should be able to wear slacks.
01:08:19.000
If you're married or you live with your spouse, the male might have, what, 20%, 25% of the decision, maybe 30%.
01:08:29.000
But some single guy probably never had a girlfriend, never lived with a girl.
01:08:44.000
You know, those climate protests drove me fucking crazy where they would protest for climate change by blocking the highway.
01:09:02.000
But you're controlling people by stopping traffic.
01:09:10.000
Giving birth or somebody has to get to the hospital or for anything.
01:09:27.000
Or these fucking climate people walking into the Reich Museum or the Van Gogh and throwing paint on a fucking...
01:09:38.000
You see what they did at the Porsche dealership?
01:09:41.000
They glued themselves to the floor and the Porsche dealership, they just shut the lights off and left them in there.
01:09:51.000
They thought they were going to stop everything and they were like, okay, good.
01:09:55.000
Shut the doors, leave them in there to shit themselves.
01:10:01.000
They're only doing it because they know it'll get attention.
01:10:04.000
It's usually a bunch of very privileged rich kids, white kids, that come from a family that has a lot of wealth and to rebel against their parents or probably fucking investment bankers or something.
01:10:16.000
They decide they're going to fight climate change, man.
01:10:20.000
They don't even understand what they're fighting.
01:10:27.000
And there's a lot of propaganda that's attached to what they call the green agenda.
01:10:32.000
Because the green agenda, like all things that are big and public, is profitable.
01:10:37.000
They have a bunch of companies that if they can get these laws pushed forward, they can have industries that emerge and their industry can benefit from all these laws.
01:10:54.000
There's all these multiple layers of things happening.
01:10:57.000
And then there's the inconvenient actual climate data that the Washington Post printed that showed that over the last 50 million years, we're in a decline.
01:11:10.000
You probably know this, but for people who don't, there's never been a static temperature on Earth.
01:11:28.000
There's solar activity that you can't control at all.
01:11:36.000
They blew out all the fucking Morse code systems.
01:11:56.000
It's the dumbest fucking thing to protest against.
01:12:06.000
But CO2, net zero, all this shit, this is nonsense.
01:12:14.000
Most intense geomagnetic storm recorded history peaking on...
01:12:18.000
1 to 2 September 1859, during a solar cycle tent, created strong auroral displays that reported globally and caused sparking and even fires in telegraph stations.
01:12:31.000
The geomagnetic storm was most likely the result of a coronal mass ejection from the sun colliding with Earth's magnetosphere.
01:12:45.000
Let's see, a geomagnetic storm of this magnitude occurring today has the potential to cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts, and damage to the electrical power grid.
01:12:57.000
And you're not going to solve it with electric cars.
01:13:08.000
And the factories and the lights and all the smoke and all that shit.
01:13:17.000
Me turning off my light bulb is not going to make a fucking difference compared...
01:13:22.000
Particularly when you look at the emissions that come from China.
01:13:25.000
Yes. China is an enormous, enormous contributor to carbon emissions.
01:13:30.000
And not just carbon emissions, but pollutants, particulates.
01:13:40.000
No matter what we do, they're going to do what's best for China financially, period.
01:13:45.000
All these conversations they're having about net zero.
01:13:57.000
Just like every other fucking country is basically doing is survival.
01:14:06.000
They're looking out for what's going to keep us from being extinguished off this fucking planet.
01:14:16.000
That's what the Jews, and I'm getting back on this because you lost me on all that shit.
01:14:52.000
I fired my manager two weeks ago and I had her write it out for me because I knew I would have said something fucked up and mean.
01:15:00.000
And another thing, I go, hey listen, you know, seven years, it's time to move on and I hope we can still be friends.
01:15:22.000
So, yeah, I would love to speak in colleges or maybe that's...
01:15:36.000
I probably wouldn't be able to get to the auditorium.
01:15:42.000
We're going to turn it into the Mediterranean of the Middle East.
01:15:52.000
You know, if you don't release the hostages, there's hell to pay.
01:16:04.000
I mean, now they're being attacked by fucking Yemen.
01:16:13.000
Release the fucking hostages, and then maybe things...
01:16:22.000
You know, four hostages for a thousand prisoners or whatever.
01:16:32.000
And, you know, this would have never went on in this country.
01:16:37.000
I mean, we did with Carter with the Iranian hostages.
01:16:46.000
Well, they kept him there until Reagan was in office.
01:16:49.000
Yeah. They kept him there until after the election.
01:16:54.000
Yeah. Part of the deal was you release these folks after Reagan takes over so that Carter can get credit for it.
01:17:03.000
Imagine you're in there and you're like, Jesus Christ, I've got to be in here for four more months so this guy gets credit.
01:17:16.000
These reporters and journalists, what she said on 60 Minutes, do you think the hostages didn't feed you because they ran out of food?
01:17:34.000
And don't quote me because this is what I read.
01:17:44.000
The captors didn't feed you because they ran out of food.
01:17:47.000
That's a crazy thing to say to someone who's a hostage.
01:17:51.000
On fucking 60 Minutes, a journalist, how do you say something like that?
01:17:58.000
The problem with these 60 Minutes journalists is the same problem with what they did with the Kamala Harris interview where they took a bumbling answer and edited it out and put an answer that she gave to something else in its place to make it look like she gave succinct, clear-cut answers.
01:18:21.000
When you're talking to a hostage, you want to find out what the experience was like in as compassionate a way as you can to talk to this person who's been through hell.
01:18:34.000
You don't ask them, do you ever think that maybe they didn't feed you because they didn't have any food themselves?
01:18:42.000
Look at what their face looks like and look at the sunken in faces of the starving to death hostages.
01:18:47.000
Well, obviously they didn't give them any food, so shut up.
01:19:02.000
It's not good at doing what it does and it's all bought and paid for by pharmaceutical drug ads and it's just not the news.
01:19:12.000
You get some information that you can learn, but it's not like the unbiased, this is what happened, this is what caused it, this is what's being done now.
01:19:23.000
It's like halfway, they're kind of almost activists.
01:19:26.000
I had an argument with somebody close to me, because I go on Gutfeld, I try to go on once a month, like I said, and she says, oh, you're pro-Trump.
01:19:47.000
Where else is a comic going to sit for an hour?
01:19:54.000
And it's definitely not going to be on the left because they're not going to let me say the things that I get away on the Gutfeld show.
01:20:17.000
And I said to this person, you worked with the pharmaceutical companies for 30 years, and you're going to tell me.
01:20:25.000
Yeah. And you're going to go on your high horse about me doing a show that's going to help my career and build numbers.
01:20:38.000
The pharmaceutical drug companies are responsible for who knows how many deaths and injuries.
01:20:44.000
Absolutely. Some pharmaceutical drugs are great, but you can't be on your high horse.
01:20:57.000
If you lied about what your product does and it kills a bunch of people, you're in jail.
01:21:26.000
BPC-157 is called Body Protection Compound 157.
01:21:30.000
It's a peptide that helps heal soft tissue damage.
01:21:56.000
Not yet, because I was waiting to do this to see where this took me and how I would go from there.
01:22:03.000
But exercises are always good, like bands, like band work, where you do these kind of things.
01:22:08.000
You keep a towel pressed to your body so you hold it in place and do these rotations with bands.
01:22:15.000
All those things are good just to keep everything strong anyway.
01:22:26.000
Yeah, just to strengthen and to release some pressure in your shoulders.
01:22:33.000
It's good for shoulder health in general to hang from a chin-up bar.
01:22:37.000
And if you can't hang, what you do is, like, get on a box or something that brings you to the height of the bar and just hang a little.
01:22:44.000
Just get some weight on it until you can hang fully.
01:22:58.000
Rehabilitation things you can do that'll help you.
01:23:04.000
When they said, you know, rehab to build up the muscle.
01:23:17.000
Okay. 100%, if you're alive, that means your body's recovering.
01:23:22.000
Yeah. So that means your body's generating tissue.
01:23:25.000
Okay? If you can go play golf, you can build muscle.
01:23:29.000
If you're 80 fucking years old and a woman, you can build muscle.
01:23:40.000
Yeah. You can't just expect it to get better on its own.
01:23:43.000
You're going to have to put it through some work to strengthen the muscles around it.
01:23:46.000
Well, I'm going to, like I said, after I do this...
01:23:54.000
Cool. Get you in the waist well, and we'll set it up.
01:23:57.000
Did I bring the show to a dead hole with my map?
01:24:09.000
I don't want to go back and have my fucking dumb Jew friends going, hey, you didn't bring anything up.
01:24:36.000
You know what the best, not your best, what a great show would be?
01:24:50.000
Yeah. You probably couldn't do it today unless you did it on the internet.
01:24:59.000
Like, Norton would be fucking phenomenal at it.
01:25:09.000
One of the most funniest things when it comes out you'll ever hear.
01:25:14.000
You get back in the old groove again, you know?
01:25:22.000
Tough Crowd and Opie and Anthony were huge for comedy.
01:25:26.000
Huge. Because Opie and Anthony, one of the things that they did that was brilliant is they just let us just go wild.
01:25:36.000
You know, Anthony would jump in with some funny shit, but the whole show was like, bring on a bunch of comics, have him talk a bunch of shit, give him the reins.
01:25:45.000
I mean, I was in there one day, Anthony was eating a piece of cake, I walked by him and smacked it out of his hand.
01:25:54.000
He laughed as hard as anybody on the planet, because...
01:26:08.000
Were you with me when they brought in Marion Barry?
01:26:18.000
The mayor of Washington, D.C. They got arrested for smoking crack.
01:26:27.000
He was next door doing something and doing another interview.
01:26:34.000
And I think Opie said, Marion Barry's in the hallway right now.
01:26:43.000
He was like, well, nobody knows what was in that pipe.
01:26:55.000
One of my favorites is when he was running for re-election, which he eventually won after he got out of jail.
01:27:01.000
They ask these people, do you have a problem with the fact that the mayor used to smoke crack?
01:27:06.000
He goes, oh, everybody has to smoke a little crack every now and then.
01:27:15.000
I remember the times, and I was in there one time, Pete Rose, Bobby Kelly, Ricky Gervais, right?
01:27:29.000
He goes, you look like some rat-faced soccer player.
01:27:36.000
Whatever Pete Rose said was very fucking funny.
01:27:55.000
Right? But you could say anything you wanted on that show, and it didn't...
01:28:04.000
Yeah, because I never went on it until it went to XM.
01:28:08.000
I was never on it when they were on Terrestrial Radio, when they got kicked off Terrestrial Radio, and then they got on XM.
01:28:19.000
It was like Howard, when Howard got on XM, or Sirius, I guess, at first.
01:28:23.000
Before they merged and then the ONA show was on XM like this is fucking crazy.
01:28:41.000
Wow. He fucking smashed me the day I walked him in.
01:29:09.000
So he's saying, he's trashing one of my Rolexes going, you're a fucking selfish douchebag driving a Porsche.
01:29:20.000
And I'm not thinking, well, maybe if you didn't eat fucking pound cake or whatever, you wouldn't eat a big S. But he's beat me down bad.
01:29:39.000
So the next day or two days later, I go online.
01:29:45.000
I look at the price of my car, new, and the price of his car.
01:29:50.000
I go, look, my shitty car costs more than your car, new.
01:29:55.000
And he calls me and goes, you're still thinking about this?
01:30:16.000
One night I was driving him back to Jersey City.
01:30:35.000
Nothing. And we just both started cracking up and walking.
01:30:41.000
We were reading for the head of a sitcom for ABC, me and Patrice.
01:30:50.000
So we go into the head of casting at Marcy Phillips.
01:31:05.000
So, he won't take his face out of the fucking copy.
01:31:10.000
And I'm trying to read with him the scene, and he won't look at me.
01:31:14.000
And Marcy Phillips is yelling at me, going, what are you doing?
01:31:21.000
How can I act with somebody that won't look at me?
01:31:30.000
We just got kicked out of an audition as the leads of sitcom, and we just cracked up all the way.
01:31:43.000
The idea of you getting a sitcom was so unlikely.
01:31:45.000
It was always all so unlikely that when it failed, like if you went on an audition and it fucked up, you're like, eh.
01:32:02.000
I had a lot of heat in Aspen, but this is when my anxiety...
01:32:10.000
21... I was hospitalized for anxiety and they didn't know what it was.
01:32:13.000
They thought you were just nuts and gave you Thorzine and Haldol and you shuffled around like a crazy man.
01:32:24.000
When I had it bad, well I felt so disconnected that even when I talked it felt like an echo almost.
01:32:38.000
Like, if I look in the mirror, I'm going, who am I looking at?
01:32:49.000
Well, some of it was probably, where am I going in life?
01:33:02.000
Because you said you have to go to the bathroom.
01:33:05.000
Okay. Because I was like preparing to like cut it off and let you go to the bathroom.
01:33:25.000
Thursday. The Thursday ones are so much better.
01:33:36.000
When you say it overwhelmed you to the point you had to go to the hospital, was your heart beating?
01:33:49.000
I was selling meat and seafood out of a car, out of a truck, some businesses back then.
01:34:25.000
The fifth floor, basically, for fucking cuckoos.
01:34:30.000
Because they really didn't know what anxiety was back then.
01:34:35.000
Because that's not that long ago in human history.
01:34:40.000
Just like in the last 40 years, how much they've learned.
01:34:44.000
Well, yeah, but also, too, it's easier to say that person's nuts, give him Thorazine, Hal, whatever antipsychotic drugs there are.
01:35:02.000
I would shuffle around the floor with this girl.
01:35:10.000
My friends came up to see me, and I'm like, I can't see you today.
01:35:20.000
So... That could have been you for the rest of your life.
01:35:26.000
Well... Because I did do acid in my day, and people sometimes do that shit and never come back.
01:35:39.000
He did a big dose of acid once, and he was fucked up for a long time.
01:35:43.000
There's a guy from Pink Floyd that disappeared.
01:36:01.000
There's been a lot of people that had an acid trip and just never came back.
01:36:08.000
He was real young, and he was having a bad trip, and I had to babysit him the whole day.
01:36:29.000
Departed from the ban in 1968 after dealing with the mental health problems and substance abuse.
01:36:48.000
Well, we were doing blotter or windowpane, four-way windowpane.
01:36:53.000
They're not making it in the same labs where they're making Tylenol.
01:36:56.000
They're making it in some fucking Grateful Deadhead's basement.
01:37:03.000
So, I got out of the hospital and for years, I don't know however long it took, it passed.
01:37:31.000
After I got divorced, I would have my kids every day.
01:37:34.000
I would work nights, and I'd watch my, I guess, four- and six-year-old.
01:37:41.000
My wife would either drop them off, or I would pick them up.
01:38:04.000
So now I'm at 40 years old living in some fucking third floor apartment.
01:38:27.000
So I found this therapist who was also, and I was already sober.
01:38:33.000
I found this therapist that was in recovery, and he basically brought me back, you know, some medication.
01:38:57.000
And then I realized and worked knowing whatever anxiety I feel, it'll pass.
01:39:11.000
For the last week, thinking about this, I go, what, you know?
01:39:14.000
Really? A little bit, because, and we're friends, and I've done podcasts, and Bonnie goes, shut up and be funny.
01:39:22.000
You know, a million things went through my fucking head.
01:39:26.000
Because, I mean, shit, you've had fucking Trump on, Elon Musk, you know what I mean?
01:39:30.000
And that's my low self-esteem, because, of course, I should be doing everything in my mind.
01:39:39.000
But, Even when I did Tough Crowd, I was on 30 times.
01:39:48.000
Every special or everything I've ever done, anxiety for the first second, I walk out, boom, gone.
01:39:58.000
I mean, what you're calling anxiety is just nerves.
01:40:02.000
Yeah. If you're doing something that's difficult or something that's important to you, you're going to have nerves.
01:40:11.000
That shows you're challenging yourself, which is one of the most important things you can do in life to stay vibrant.
01:40:21.000
When I did the Trump, when we roasted Trump, this was a fryer's roast, right?
01:40:28.000
It's when they broke away from Commie Central, right?
01:40:40.000
Anybody that meant anything in New York, from club owners, agents, managers, celebrities, they were all there.
01:40:48.000
So the first act goes up, this guy, Stewie Stone, old-time Catskill comic.
01:40:54.000
He kills like no one I've ever seen kill on a roast.
01:41:11.000
My father, his wife, Bonnie, before I married her.
01:41:32.000
Amorose wrote her some funny jokes, and she's great at roasts.
01:41:36.000
And I was ready to sneak off the fucking, just leave.
01:41:40.000
I go, it might be better if I leave than go up.
01:42:10.000
Originally, they asked Rodney to host, but he said he'd rather be dead.
01:42:33.000
I can't believe I said this, but back then it was okay.
01:42:42.000
And I said, the only way you'll get on the White House property is with a lantern in your hand.
01:42:55.000
We're the ones that were printed in the newspapers.
01:43:01.000
The reason Trump puts his names on his buildings is so the banks know which ones to take back.
01:43:13.000
Next to doing Dev Jam as the first white guy was one of the most terrifying moments in my...
01:43:46.000
The white comics that were doing black rooms back then.
01:44:06.000
It was in New York five nights at some theater.
01:44:11.000
I did it the fifth year when they had a different guest host every night.
01:44:15.000
Like Martin Lawrence wasn't one night, one show Chris Rock, Chappelle, Jamie Foxx, and Steve, what's his name?
01:44:30.000
I mean, I went one night, and it was just so funny.
01:44:34.000
Like, Guy Torrey would come out and do the warm-up.
01:44:39.000
And he would say, listen, this is not the Apollo.
01:44:56.000
And with a black audience, if you're wearing the wrong sneakers, you're in trouble.
01:45:07.000
And his first joke in New York is, I just want to say I'm not from New York.
01:45:18.000
And when a black audience can't boo you, all you heard in the room was, mm, mm, mm, mm.
01:45:36.000
Now, they're taped five nights, two shows a night.
01:45:41.000
I'm on the last night, second show, and I go second to last.
01:45:48.000
Now, all the comics that were still in town, that were the celebrity hosts, were at the taping.
01:45:56.000
I'm going, this is one of the scariest moments of my life.
01:46:04.000
He goes, well, our next act is something we haven't seen or special, whatever.
01:46:13.000
I got fat farm on and these baggy pants, you know.
01:46:29.000
I did grow up in that neighborhood, but I'm out like this.
01:46:37.000
But I look back and go, I would never do that now from 25 years ago.
01:46:44.000
The pandering and just talking like I'm fucking from the hood and shit.
01:46:56.000
But it was the second scariest moment in my career.
01:47:02.000
Both scariest moments of your career worked out great.
01:47:06.000
So, wouldn't that eventually build some confidence?
01:47:15.000
Listen, you always got to question yourself in this business because you want to get better.
01:47:36.000
I have a reputation to live up to of the stuff I've done in this business.
01:47:41.000
So I come out and people are going, look, Bobby and Keith, we were at the cellar one night.
01:47:56.000
They go, we're going to come over and watch you bomb.
01:48:24.000
And I go, see, Bobby, see, Keith, I can follow anybody, right?
01:48:31.000
They went into the back corners of the room, and after every joke, they would go, oh, oh.
01:48:42.000
And they had the whole audience turn on me going, what's going on?
01:48:48.000
I would say a joke that might have been a little edgy, and they would go, oh, real loud.
01:48:54.000
And so the whole audience is going, what's this guy doing up there?
01:49:05.000
And I'm fucking bombing now because these two fucking jamokes are in the back of the room going, oh my god.
01:49:22.000
The culture of comic culture was like constant busting balls.
01:49:28.000
Somebody would go on stage and we would all go downstairs and sit in like the front row and watch.
01:49:36.000
There's nothing worse you could do for a comic than your friends sit in the front row and stare at you.
01:49:43.000
When Kevin Hart was leaving New York to go to fucking L.A., he threw himself a little go-away fucking show at Boston Comedy Club.
01:49:53.000
Sure. So he's on stage pontificating, doing whatever.
01:49:58.000
And I don't know why, but me, Keith, and Patrice were in the back of the room.
01:50:07.000
And he's up, and we started throwing phone books at him.
01:50:11.000
Yeah, they were just in the club from, I guess they were delivered there, all these phone, and we're throwing phone books at Kevin Hart.
01:50:18.000
And he says, on interview, he goes, I knew I was accepted when they were throwing phone books at me.
01:50:29.000
But we were just heaving phone books out of, like, fucking three assholes in the back of the room, I mean.
01:50:40.000
It was probably the most fun I've had in comedy when we would just stand out.
01:50:53.000
Till three and four in the morning in front of Boston just trashing each other.
01:51:07.000
Keith is, he's fun if you see him around, you know, or Norton or Bobby, but it was so much fun.
01:51:15.000
I heard Keith is killing it now, even with his strokes.
01:51:20.000
His special, we were at the tape and the fact that he didn't win an Emmy, it was so fucking good, his special.
01:51:39.000
I walked out of there going, this is the best thing I've ever seen.
01:51:58.000
Award shows for art, to me, are some of the most ridiculous things.
01:52:10.000
It's just an industry way that they can celebrate each other, and then they put on a show, and the show generates money, and they make a bunch of money from the show, and then it becomes a thing they hold over your head.
01:52:26.000
He wanted to be a part of that group, doing the Oscars, and he gets smacked by Will Smith.
01:52:32.000
They don't arrest him, and then 10 minutes later, or whatever it was, Will Smith's on stage receiving the Academy Award, and they give him a standing ovation.
01:52:45.000
To want their love and their respect is pointless.
01:52:52.000
They like whatever everybody tells them to like.
01:52:56.000
It's just a bunch of people wanting to be a part of the group that's the in-group.
01:53:09.000
If that was Chappelle, he wouldn't have smacked Chappelle.
01:53:11.000
Because Chappelle's a little cut, a little bigger.
01:53:19.000
Now everybody remembers nothing but that forever.
01:53:24.000
All those different things he did that were awesome.
01:53:29.000
Every day he's got to wake up in the morning and go, fuck.
01:53:34.000
Fuck. If he hadn't done that, if he just ate it, and by the way, not even bad jokes.
01:53:39.000
Nothing. G.I. Jane, like that's the most fucking, that was a powerful movie.
01:53:47.000
It was just silly to smack a guy like that and then that's your thing forever.
01:53:57.000
And that probably comes from not having anxiety, by the way.
01:54:10.000
That you can interrupt this entire enormous award show.
01:54:15.000
That you're set up to receive a fucking Academy Award in about an hour.
01:54:21.000
You're going to go up there and smack a guy on TV?
01:54:27.000
So your anxiety shields you from doing something like that.
01:54:30.000
Yeah, the fear and the insecurity sometimes is good.
01:54:57.000
Yeah. Which he probably should have just walked off after he got smacked.
01:55:24.000
If that was Tony, there would have been a fight.
01:55:26.000
If that was Tony Rock, there would have been a fight.
01:55:31.000
Well, Tony went off on stage, like, right afterwards about it.
01:55:37.000
But Chris, like, is, like, almost if it was anybody but Chris, you know?
01:55:44.000
If you did it to Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart would crack him.
01:55:50.000
It's like the guy's in some sort of a very bizarre relationship with his wife.
01:55:55.000
And, you know, whatever internal conflicts they have just manifested itself in a terrible decision that he made.
01:56:03.000
If he would have said that about my wife, I would have smacked her and said, laugh.
01:56:13.000
But, you know, not being able to take a joke is one of the worst qualities that people can have.
01:56:19.000
Do you take yourself so seriously when someone says something funny, you can't laugh as well?
01:56:32.000
Like, you should have joy about someone making fun of you, and you're great at that.
01:56:36.000
It's one of the best things about you on ONA, is that when they would crack on you, you would laugh.
01:56:46.000
And if I was, at times, lucky enough to come back with something, then I would.
01:56:51.000
The last time I did Kill Tony a couple weeks ago, and I told a joke, and Tony goes, that's the oldest joke in history.
01:57:13.000
Well, Kill Tony's one of the only places left where that kind of fucking with people is like openly encouraged.
01:57:19.000
That kind of fucking with people is like, I mean, and Tony's the best roaster on the fucking planet.
01:57:28.000
He's so quick, you think he wrote it in advance.
01:57:38.000
He's done that show for, what, 10 years or more?
01:57:40.000
Yes. He's built that muscle in his head where, boom.
01:57:50.000
Well, when you host a show like that, too, you understand the rhythm of the show, the beats of it.
01:57:54.000
And he's so good at letting other people shine.
01:58:01.000
He doesn't feel upstaged if Shane comes on as Trump or when Kyle was doing...
01:58:21.000
Yeah. And then you had Adam Ray, who did Dr. Phil, which was fucking amazing, and Biden.
01:58:28.000
I did Kill Tony twice with Adam Ray, and he's fun to be with.
01:58:43.000
If you say something funny, he'll laugh and crack up.
01:58:52.000
If it's funny, they don't get jealous or get mad and go, I'm going to outdo that.
01:59:04.000
No. No one who's like, oh, I gotta do better than him.
01:59:32.000
If it gets shot into me Wednesday, what's tomorrow?
01:59:47.000
Just don't tear it apart while it's building back up.
02:00:04.000
If you're having injuries with your shoulders and the muscles around them and people are telling you to strengthen them, you should listen to those people.
02:00:11.000
Listen, I went to physical therapy for my back and it's working.
02:00:23.000
The more muscles you have around your shoulder, the better it is.
02:00:27.000
It was only two or three weeks ago we said go to physical therapy.
02:00:37.000
You can definitely heal soft tissue injuries without surgery.
02:00:40.000
The real issue is when tendons are separated and they need to be put back in place and reconnected.
02:00:55.000
I was doing upright rows with 50-pound kettlebells, and I think that was too heavy or too much.
02:01:21.000
You're saying get a trainer for my shoulder or for my hold?
02:01:24.000
For your shoulder for everything, for all of it.
02:01:26.000
So someone show you how to do it right so you're not hurting yourself.
02:01:28.000
Well, I think I'm doing triceps and biceps right.
02:01:58.000
Okay. Look, for almost 68, I think I look better than most people I went to school with.
02:02:22.000
No, get a fucking professional that knows how to work out and build yourself back up to the point where you're not having these kind of injuries.
02:02:32.000
When they tell you to do physical therapy on your shoulder, fucking do it.
02:02:36.000
If you waited three weeks, you're 68. You only have a few years left.
02:02:45.000
You want a few years left in fucking working order.
02:03:04.000
I'm never going to get my arms bigger than that.
02:03:10.000
Yeah. The reason why your arms exist at all is because your tissue is regenerating.
02:03:35.000
Because if your heart beats, if your hormones work, if you can move around, that means your body can repair itself.
02:04:03.000
Well, because it makes it, it leads to prostate cancer.
02:04:18.000
There's a guy named Brigham Bueller who runs ways to well who could explain the flaws in that study that showed that it gave people prostate cancer.
02:04:31.000
It's like across the board, the same percentage of people that take testosterone or don't take testosterone get prostate cancer.
02:05:04.000
But, you know, if you want to take care of yourself, testosterone will actually make your body heal better.
02:05:17.000
We live in a time where you can get a full blood panel and find out where your nutrient levels are.
02:05:23.000
And if you do it with a good doctor, what they'll do is they'll adjust your diet and your nutrients first and then see in a couple months what your levels are then and then find out how much are you sleeping.
02:05:35.000
Well, there's a problem there because then your body's not recovering.
02:05:38.000
So you've got to figure out a way to adjust something in your life to make you sleep better.
02:05:44.000
And then after that, once they get everything all worked into its optimum range, you're doing all the right things, they go, what are your levels now?
02:05:56.000
Peptides that'll increase your body's ability to promote growth hormone.
02:05:59.000
There's stuff like samoralin that makes your body produce more growth hormone so your body repairs itself better like when you're younger.
02:06:06.000
There's all rigorous science behind all this stuff.
02:06:47.000
Yeah. People were mad they wouldn't let the ladies drive.
02:06:55.000
If that thing blew up and if Jeff Bezos' wife blew up with it...
02:07:04.000
Obviously. Of course, Twitter doesn't think space is real.
02:07:13.000
There's really retarded people who think the earth is flat and that there's a firmament.
02:07:47.000
You think you'd get anxiety if you went to space?
02:08:09.000
Imagine, from space, and the only thing we got to land you is a parachute.
02:08:44.000
I'll tell you what I'll never do is clap when a pilot lands.
02:08:56.000
No. There was a bunch of them in a row where I was like, Jesus Christ.
02:09:03.000
The Delta one in Canada where it flipped upside down?
02:09:09.000
Like, yeah, take that one out on the icy runway.
02:09:14.000
Blue Origin declined to say how much the flight cost or who paid for it.
02:09:17.000
The trip came two months before Sanchez and Bezos to marry in Venice.
02:09:20.000
Oh, they're going to marry in Venice in two months.
02:09:31.000
Wow. Yeah, you can't tell people how much it costs because then there's gonna be retards like,"That money could have housed so many houseless, so many unhoused could have benefited.
02:09:45.000
How many poor people?" These fucking retards are like,"If Elon Musk gave a million dollars to everyone on earth, he'd have money left over." There's all these mathematicians out there that are fucking constantly want to comment on other people's money.
02:10:01.000
And those people would fuck up that money, too.
02:10:07.000
I'm rich, but I'm not as rich as the richest people, so everybody richer than me is a problem.
02:10:16.000
Yes, I own three homes, but I'm a United States senator.
02:10:20.000
And I'm worth millions and billions of dollars, but everyone richer than me is the problem.
02:10:41.000
When Doge is uncovering $250 million that was spent on animal transgender studies where you're fucking chopping the dicks of mice and turning them into pussies.
02:10:54.000
How about you fix the world without taxing the shit out of everybody?
02:11:01.000
I can't even tell you what I sent the other day to the IRS.
02:11:15.000
Elon paid more taxes last year than any human being that has ever walked the face of this nation.
02:11:30.000
And people that don't have, always look at people that do have, like, well, you could do with that money.
02:11:36.000
Well, you could do with your money, you fuckhead.
02:11:47.000
If you make $34,000 American dollars a year, you are in the top 1% of planet Earth.
02:11:56.000
Because you're comparing it to the rest of the planet.
02:12:05.000
So all this bullshit about, well, he could do that money.
02:12:09.000
Well, you're saying that from your fucking Manhattan apartment where you're Ubering all over the place and getting fucking takeout.
02:12:16.000
Listen, when I was in Cabo working there, it was amazing.
02:12:20.000
You drive to the airport, people are living in fucking shacks there, this and that.
02:12:34.000
I came from a major, major drug addict and I turned my life around.
02:12:42.000
It's all, you gotta find a way to do what you can for yourself.
02:12:49.000
I grew up with dudes from heroin addicts to people with five kids at fucking 22 or whatever.
02:12:59.000
And a lot of people made it out of there and found a way to be successful.
02:13:05.000
But the point is, like, looking at people that are uber successful and telling them what they should do with their money is just the dumb shit.
02:13:12.000
And that's why they don't want to give out how much money it costs to fly this rocket ship into space.
02:13:23.000
They flew them off into space, and then they landed.
02:13:27.000
But basically, you're in space for like 10 minutes.
02:13:31.000
It probably cost a billion dollars to fly people into space for 10 minutes.
02:13:35.000
How many fucking clubs you could have bought me?
02:13:43.000
You're just a fucking inveterate golfer, right?
02:13:50.000
Yeah. He's got a driving computer with a big screen.
02:14:36.000
I shoot anywhere from 82 to I want to break a club.
02:14:51.000
When I was a kid, the guys who golfed all the time were the guys who weren't paying as much attention to their career.
02:14:57.000
I remember thinking a lot of these guys are kind of stagnant because they're golfing all day.
02:15:01.000
In Boston, those guys would golf all fucking day long, get hammered.
02:15:11.000
All wound up spending so much time playing golf.
02:15:15.000
I thought it was like, wow, that's a big distraction.
02:15:18.000
You should have some activities, but golf is like...
02:15:24.000
That's a lot of hours, but also, too, it makes you disconnect from all the bullshit that's going on in life.
02:15:31.000
You know, you don't have to deal with whatever, you know.
02:15:35.000
Do you golf with comics, too, so you get to talk some shit?
02:15:40.000
If I can after I get these shots Thursday with Aaron Berg, I think I'm going to golf with him.
02:15:51.000
It'll be sore for a day or two after you get the injections, but you'll be fine.
02:16:15.000
What are you going to impress me with your chest?
02:16:46.000
They're not big, but they're hard, and they're not flabby under here.
02:17:00.000
Whatever happened to Mr. Pull Yourself Up by Your Bootstraps, Get Your Shit Together?
02:17:16.000
Do you think if I worked out with you, I'd be impressed with the effort that you put forward?
02:17:42.000
But I think in terms of an exercise for your core, it's kind of nonsense.
02:17:48.000
First of all, you should almost always do things that have a range of motion.
02:17:53.000
I like to do things that make my body work as a unit.
02:17:57.000
So all the ab exercises that I do, I do a lot of different things for abs.
02:18:12.000
Well, I got one of those machines where I put my knees in it and I pull up to get the bottom.
02:18:25.000
And then you've got to also do the opposite side.
02:18:34.000
Because, and I got to lose another 10 pounds again.
02:18:42.000
And because I have lower disc problems and, you know, I'm getting sciatica.
02:18:49.000
So whenever I lose weight, I'm in much better shape.
02:18:52.000
Yeah, I could tell by when we got on that stretching machine, the decks.
02:19:01.000
Oh, I'll go in there right now and go all the way down.
02:19:14.000
You probably could go all the way down, but your body doesn't want to.
02:19:17.000
The point is there's tension in your lower back.
02:19:24.000
No. On stage, if they need me to do an extra 20. If they go to stretch.
02:19:32.000
If D.L. Eugly and I'm middling and he's coming four hours late.
02:19:37.000
Back in the day, I was working the Caroline's and I was opening for DL.
02:19:42.000
And, you know, I'm doing all my good stuff up front.
02:19:54.000
You get all your best material, and they're telling you to stretch, like, I don't know, and you're just scouring your brain.
02:20:00.000
Well, luckily for you, you could work the crowd.
02:20:28.000
And then when I'm doing sit-up, crunches, I'll do it either on that machine.
02:20:41.000
First of all, I know the crew you have come in here, a lot of them.
02:21:18.000
Like, you'll talk to comics now and go, oh, Steve Landisberg was funny.
02:22:28.000
Are you going to find a photo of you looking good?
02:22:49.000
Yeah, but I mean this, you being on your phone here looking for a photo of back in the day when you looked reasonable.
02:23:18.000
A lot of people fell apart during the pandemic.
02:23:49.000
Like, we used to go to Montreal, they call it smoked meat.
02:23:53.000
Yeah. It's basically like going to Cantor's, right?
02:24:01.000
But, you know, I heard, and I don't know if it's true, and I...
02:24:04.000
If you eat too much smoked meat, you can get stomach cancer from that, from all that smoked meat.
02:24:18.000
There is some connection between burnt meat, like the carbon in burnt meat and cancer.
02:24:27.000
But I do not know how robust those studies are.
02:24:31.000
I mean, people have been cooking over fire forever.
02:24:36.000
There's a lot of bullshit involved in these studies that tell you that this causes cancer, that causes cancer.
02:24:42.000
Here's what 100% causes cancer: herbicides, pesticides, chemicals, forever chemicals that are in your fucking food.
02:24:49.000
That paper cup that you're drinking out of when you drink hot liquids out of a paper cup.
02:24:54.000
We got to throw those fucking paper cups we have.
02:24:56.000
Have you seen what Paul Saladino did when he dissolved a Starbucks cup and shows you what's really at the base of it?
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Really? Because the lining of those paper cups is plastic.
02:25:19.000
So you're basically pouring hot liquid into plastic, which is the worst.
02:25:25.000
So he's dissolving the paper cup, and that's what's inside of it.
02:25:28.000
So you think you're drinking out of a paper cup, but it's not really paper.
02:25:35.000
There's a plastic lining, and that's the only reason why those coffee cups from Starbucks hold paper.
02:25:46.000
Chemicals, PFAs, anything in that plastic is leaching into your coffee drink.
02:25:54.000
You are getting a plastic cup and you are putting hot water into it.
02:26:01.000
Glass jar, get your coffee in a glass jar or a stainless steel mug.
02:26:05.000
Simple solution, don't expose hot liquids to plastic like this.
02:26:07.000
Horrible idea for your hormones, horrible for your body.
02:26:10.000
Send this to somebody you know who drinks hot coffee out of paper cups like this and needs to get them out of glass or stainless steel.
02:27:09.000
Yes. In two months you can lose 20 pounds of fat and look great.
02:27:25.000
When I try to cut carbs, let me tell you something.
02:27:28.000
It was easier for me to quit crack than it was carbs.
02:27:33.000
Really? Well, I never gave anybody a handjob for a Kaiser roll.
02:27:45.000
Right. I don't know how much bigger my arms will be.
02:27:55.000
Well, we're going to get you a blood panel tomorrow, too.
02:27:57.000
They'll find out where your hormone levels are at.
02:28:10.000
I already had blood tests at my doctor's office.
02:28:12.000
Did your doctor do a comprehensive cancer scan?
02:28:24.000
They can do this incredibly comprehensive blood panel.
02:28:28.000
They dig a lot of blood out, and then they send it to a lab, and they find out whether or not you have any.
02:28:34.000
Because when they did it, I was like, ooh, I have the same feeling.
02:28:41.000
Start thinking about it and start mind-fucking yourself laying in bed at night.
02:28:45.000
What if I find out tomorrow and I have four weeks to live?
02:28:50.000
When I went back in the day, everybody, like, went for the AIDS test after you got clean.
02:29:02.000
My doctor, whenever I went to my doctor and took any test, he would call me and say, everything's fine.
02:29:23.000
My heart dropped because he would have said everything's fine.
02:29:35.000
I thought it was my real doctor telling me I have fucking AIDS.
02:29:42.000
When I first got insurance, I had to get an AIDS test in the 90s.
02:29:46.000
And I remember the doctor, I said, boy, I'm fucking real nervous about this.
02:29:59.000
Yeah. The news is freaking me out where I'm scared to touch fucking doorknobs.
02:30:04.000
Like, how come the news is saying that everybody's going to get it?
02:30:07.000
He says, listen, no one's getting it other than gay people and people who are intervening as drug users.
02:30:15.000
We went to see Pee Wee in a hospital, and all the nurses were wearing masks.
02:30:33.000
Fauci was responsible for people freaking out about AIDS.
02:30:36.000
Fauci was on TV back in the 80s telling people that children could possibly catch it from people.
02:30:44.000
Where they were limiting the medication that gay people could take?
02:30:52.000
He was the one who pushed AZT on people back then.
02:30:56.000
AZT was that chemotherapy medication that was killing people quicker than the cancer was.
02:31:00.000
They stopped using it on cancer and they repurposed it and started using it on people that had AIDS.
02:31:07.000
They were giving it to people that didn't even have any fucking symptoms.
02:31:15.000
It was the only time ever in medical history where they were telling you to take a chemotherapy drug indefinitely.
02:31:21.000
Every time you take chemotherapy, the idea is that it gets your body close to death but kills off the cancer.
02:31:34.000
If you read Robert Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci, it's all about that.
02:31:38.000
And the beginning of it is all about the AIDS crisis and all the different things that they did that mirrors exactly what they did during the COVID crisis.
02:31:47.000
They started using protease inhibitors and that really helped.
02:31:52.000
It's very complex because the vast majority of the people that got AIDS were heavy drug users.
02:31:58.000
Heavy drug users or gay guys who are experienced.
02:32:06.000
Yeah, that's part of it, but it's also part of it you're destroying your immune system with fucking drugs.
02:32:11.000
These guys were taking amyl nitrate and crystal meth and partying and not sleeping, just crushing their immune system.
02:32:18.000
Plus sharing needles with the blood going for them.
02:32:21.000
And then they would get them on medication that would definitely kill them.
02:32:25.000
And then, you know, everybody was running around scared.
02:32:27.000
And I was scared too until I talked to my doctor.
02:32:40.000
92? 88. And my doctor was like, don't worry about it.
02:32:54.000
Unless you're an intravenous drug user, don't worry about it.
02:33:21.000
I remember seeing him for the first time when I was an open-miker in 88. And he was just a wild dude.
02:33:28.000
He was like one of the first guys I ever saw with tattoos.
02:33:30.000
All these tattoos, and they're like, he does heroin.
02:33:35.000
When someone did heroin back then, it was crazy.
02:33:39.000
Now, think about how many people are hooked on opiates.
02:33:44.000
Well, the difference between heroin and freebase, you can function on heroin.
02:33:58.000
I had a buddy of mine who was a longshoreman, and he would tell me that this guy he would work with, and not just one guy, but one guy that he was working with, that he was a friend, on his lunch break, get a bag of heroin, shoot it up in his car, sit there for half an hour, and then go back to work.
02:34:23.000
When I first got high, I was 15. You know, pot.
02:34:33.000
I snorted coke probably when I started when I was 18 or 19, right?
02:34:40.000
Crack, probably 25 to 28. Do you remember the first time you did it?
02:35:01.000
He goes, look, I'm going to buy an eighth of Coke.
02:35:07.000
Okay. And we'll do two half grams and I'll sell the other three.
02:35:31.000
Oh. He didn't hide it as good as you hide your money?
02:35:46.000
Wait a minute, you actually cooked the coke and turned it into crack?
02:36:05.000
Other crack addicts were giving you the recipe?
02:36:12.000
Or four with ether, which you could blow up your house.
02:36:21.000
I'd cook it, smoke it, and pour out the ammonia.
02:36:36.000
How do you take cocaine and turn it into freebase?
02:36:38.000
You put it in a teaspoon and you light it and it turns into a rock.
02:36:46.000
You squeeze and try to get the ammonia out as much as you can in the rock.
02:36:52.000
I would get the ammonia, steal a half a gram from him, go to the...
02:37:06.000
ChatTB2, the chemistry behind it, how it's made.
02:37:08.000
For educational purposes only, not intended to encourage illegal activity.
02:37:13.000
Cocaine hydrochloride powder with baking soda and water.
02:37:17.000
Sometimes ammonia is used instead of baking soda, but baking soda is more common for crack.
02:37:22.000
As it's heated, the cocaine bases separate from the hydrochloride and form solid rocks that float to the top.
02:37:31.000
The crack rocks are cooled and hardened, then dry.
02:37:48.000
After the fourth trip to the convenience store, I go, hey, listen, I got a cleaning business.
02:38:07.000
Four. And I was just drinking straight vodka, right?
02:38:27.000
Well, I think I told this story years ago, but I'll tell it.
02:38:31.000
And he doesn't care because he told it in his book.
02:38:41.000
You would pick up an act at the Improv and then go do the one-nighter in Jersey.
02:38:45.000
Right. So we pick up this comic, little white guy, whatever.
02:38:51.000
We go do our one-nighter, and we're supposed to drop him off at the Improv.
02:39:06.000
There's people chasing people with knives up and down the street.
02:39:23.000
So now we go down to the Lower East Side and Frankie gets heroin.
02:39:29.000
Now Frankie's in the back seat tying up, shooting heroin.
02:39:54.000
He tells the story in his book and I apologize to him.
02:39:59.000
Right? But we kept him hostage as I'm smoking crack and Frankie's banging dope in the car.
02:40:13.000
And he leaves The club with the owner's daughter, and they're headed into New York, and there's another guy driving the car.
02:40:21.000
He stops off at Washington Square Park, picks up a bag of crack, and starts smoking it in the car.
02:40:29.000
And the girl freaks out, and he says, the classic line, he goes, what?
02:40:42.000
They're doing a documentary on Otto and George.
02:40:44.000
Well, we did a lot of those shows, those prom shows with Otto and George.
02:40:49.000
Genius. Yeah, but I'd drive with him to a gig and he would go, do you know what George thought of today?
02:41:01.000
Well, he would make people pull over so he could go check on George.
02:41:14.000
And he might have been he had some weird personality disorder where he put a personality to that dummy.
02:41:20.000
But that dummy, when that dummy would say things, you knew it was George.
02:41:25.000
Yeah. Like, it didn't even feel like it was Otto.
02:41:28.000
It felt like George had his own thoughts on things.
02:41:33.000
And I go into his room on the road, and he's...
02:41:36.000
Putting away the dummy's clothes in another dresser drawer than his.
02:41:41.000
He's like putting away the clothes of the dummy.
02:41:50.000
You know, back in the day, you know, when there was bank robbers, outlaws, they would wear a handkerchief and go rob a bank.
02:41:59.000
Well, I want to be the outlaw ventriloquist where I go up with a little dummy and put a handkerchief.
02:42:05.000
This way they can't see my lips move, but I could say I'm the outlaw ventriloquist.
02:42:20.000
Part of the fun of being a ventriloquist, Otto would say, I can't believe you're saying that, George.
02:42:40.000
How come there's no ventriloquist on this planet?
02:42:45.000
Well, there's not even very many ventriloquist acts anymore.
02:42:48.000
There used to be a bunch of ventriloquist acts.
02:42:50.000
There was Willie Tyler and Lester, who was in L.A. There was a few.
02:42:54.000
There was Vincent Antoneau and George from Long Island.
02:42:58.000
It's like when one guy becomes really big, like Jeff Dunham.
02:43:01.000
He became the man when it came to ventriloquist.
02:43:03.000
And then he's so popular that nobody touches it anymore.
02:43:15.000
Yeah, he pulled it in fucking diaper, I mean, laundry basket shoots with fucking props.
02:43:23.000
Yeah, he had like a whole trunk full of stuff that he would have to carry to the club.
02:43:27.000
But they don't have them anymore because Carrot Top became so famous as a prop act that everybody's like,"Oh, that's a Carrot Top thing." They just abandoned it.
02:43:46.000
There's no upcoming people right now that are musical comedians.
02:43:55.000
Like when I did one-nighters, there was jugglers, juggling Jack Scherzi.
02:44:04.000
There's a few magic acts still that work in California because of the Comedy Magic Club.
02:44:09.000
He used to have it where you'd have a magician mixed in with the comedy.
02:44:16.000
Do you ever remember Chips Cooney where he did the fake magic act?
02:44:39.000
Yeah, I remember he pulled out a Smokey the Bear doll, and he's like, only you can prevent forest fires.
02:44:49.000
And then he'd move on to something else like it never happened.
02:45:09.000
I mean, Rip Taylor didn't like him, but, you know, Rip Taylor's from how many fucking years ago?
02:45:22.000
Because Carrot Top was getting real famous at the time.
02:45:29.000
But it's like most comics today are just comics.
02:45:33.000
There's very little, like, all the variety stuff is gone.
02:45:42.000
There was more variety in the one-nighters and the clubs.
02:45:55.000
Like, guys had, like, pieces of paper they'd bring on stage and hold up signs.
02:46:11.000
He had paper signs he would pull up and do a thing on signs or whatever.
02:46:20.000
Well, there was the guy from the Blue Collar tour, Bill Engvall.
02:46:43.000
Kills! Well, he does that goddamn comedy jam where he does music, too.
02:46:49.000
But we had him on our show, Would You Bang Him?
02:47:02.000
And they do, like, eight or ten minutes apiece.
02:47:05.000
Then we have three female judges and a gay judge.
02:47:10.000
And after the set, they discuss whether they would fuck him or not.
02:47:18.000
But some of these female judges are just so funny, you know.
02:47:36.000
All over the stage, I'm going, he's got to close every show in a comedy club because nobody's following that.
02:47:43.000
There's no way at the cellar that you're going to go up after that.
02:47:51.000
Yeah, if you were on the road and you had a middle act and the middle act was brought to you by the club, like they assigned a middle act and the middle act was doing music, you were fucked.
02:48:05.000
I worked Vegas once following a guy with a guitar, and he's fucking closing with Springsteen and a bandana on his head.
02:48:17.000
But it's weird that that's not more popular, because it used to be so effective.
02:48:21.000
It's like, why isn't there more of those acts like that out there?
02:48:28.000
Got older and went to cruise ships that do guitar.
02:48:43.000
They would turn around, fix their hair, and then do their...
02:48:52.000
I'd be scared to turn around and the audience left.
02:49:04.000
There's not a lot of just impressionists, right?
02:49:24.000
Yeah, he was on the Virus Tour, on the Opie and Anthony Tour.
02:50:07.000
I would have worn the good ones on Theo's podcast.
02:50:10.000
Jesus Christ, I'm looking at your face when you turn sideways so I can see how much magnification you got.
02:50:21.000
It looks like I'm seeing double the size of your fucking...
02:50:37.000
It is beautiful that you guys do that every year.
02:50:42.000
You talk about a guy that touched so many people because he was so brilliant.
02:51:08.000
I'd rather fucking walk through Lebanon wearing a fucking yarmulke.
02:51:23.000
Oh, does he have a lot of pro-Palestinian stuff?
02:51:30.000
You and Bill Burr go back and forth about Palestine?
02:51:36.000
But, you know, look, I'm friends with him for years.
02:51:42.000
Fucking... When comedians get political and to the point where they distance themselves with people that don't agree with them, that to me is hilarious.
02:51:56.000
Like, this is where you're going to fucking draw the line on some shit that barely affects your personal life?
02:52:06.000
Any of my friends that are like that, I'm still friends with them.
02:52:10.000
I don't agree with a lot of the shit and they're stupid.
02:52:15.000
One or two people I think say really vile stuff and I just mute them.
02:52:24.000
Right. I mean, shit, me and Norton don't agree on everything.
02:53:01.000
There's a bunch of guys, and I think I put you in there too, that just never really promoted themselves on social media.
02:53:08.000
So it's like, you're really good, but even Attell.
02:53:12.000
Attell, for the level of comedy that he is, he should be selling out stadiums every night.
02:53:21.000
All he does is just, like, all of his following is just word of mouth.
02:53:27.000
And, like, people who have seen him before, they've come to see him again.
02:53:30.000
Well, he says, one of my videos now is up to almost 5 million views.
02:54:04.000
Get you on the peptides and get your blood work and find out what the fuck's going on with your shoulder and shoot you up with stem cells.
02:54:10.000
I do have a special on Amazon called Rich Voss Anonymous.
02:54:49.000
I've done this podcast three times and this is the most fun I had.
02:55:05.000
There's a whiskey barrel on stage with notes in it from the audience.
02:55:13.000
So what am I going to do about this thing tomorrow?