The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2307

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00:00:13.000 Tim Dillon.

00:00:14.000 How are you?

00:00:15.000 I'm much better now that the ladies are back from space.

00:00:17.000 Thank you for having me.

00:00:18.000 What were they up there, 10 minutes?

00:00:20.000 Well, it was very profound.

00:00:21.000 I don't know if you've seen Katy Perry talk about it, but she's basically a guru now.

00:00:25.000 Yeah. What were her findings?

00:00:26.000 That's my question.

00:00:27.000 Well, she brought a daisy, which is super important.

00:00:30.000 It shows you how quick the flight was.

00:00:33.000 The dead daisy that's like snipped from its life source was still alive or still vibrant.

00:00:40.000 Yeah, and it's so...

00:00:41.000 Shadda Daisy.

00:00:43.000 Wow. Look at her nails.

00:00:45.000 So pretty.

00:00:47.000 Now, so they go up there and they float for like 10 minutes?

00:00:50.000 At least.

00:00:51.000 And then they come down.

00:00:52.000 Let's not minimize this.

00:00:53.000 No, I know.

00:00:53.000 It's a big deal.

00:00:55.000 Let's celebrate.

00:00:57.000 Female astronauts.

00:00:58.000 Because they were united.

00:00:59.000 Because a lot of men astronauts, they have to go to school.

00:01:02.000 Right. They have to learn how to be a pilot first.

00:01:05.000 Then they have to join the Air Force or the Navy.

00:01:08.000 And then they get appointed by NASA.

00:01:11.000 That's right.

00:01:11.000 And then they go to space.

00:01:13.000 You know?

00:01:15.000 And there has been, that's the other thing, there has been female astronauts.

00:01:19.000 Let's not minimize this.

00:01:20.000 Let's not minimize this.

00:01:23.000 I think there was a bitch stuck on a space station for a few months.

00:01:27.000 That's terribly more impressive.

00:01:29.000 Let's not minimize this.

00:01:30.000 No, the problem with that story is that she was rescued by a very awful person who wants to expose fraud and waste.

00:01:40.000 Yes. Did Musk rescue her?

00:01:41.000 Yes. Oh, interesting.

00:01:43.000 Yeah, I didn't know.

00:01:44.000 Oh, where's that in the news?

00:01:45.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:01:45.000 Those fucking people were stuck.

00:01:46.000 The Boeing jet, the skyline, whatever the fuck it was, the Boeing spaceship, it wasn't working.

00:01:51.000 They couldn't fix it.

00:01:52.000 Interesting. I didn't even know that.

00:01:54.000 Yeah. And by the way, Elon could have rescued them during the Biden administration.

00:01:58.000 They didn't want to because of his open support for Trump.

00:02:01.000 So they left those people up there.

00:02:03.000 Yes. He's talked about it on my podcast.

00:02:06.000 They left those people up there.

00:02:08.000 And they're just chilling.

00:02:10.000 No, they're dying.

00:02:11.000 Right. It's like slow radiation poisoning.

00:02:13.000 It's like getting 10 x-rays a day.

00:02:15.000 And they're just slowly getting sapped of your life force out there and no gravity.

00:02:21.000 Your bones are weakening.

00:02:22.000 Did you see that lady's face when she came back?

00:02:24.000 She didn't look great.

00:02:25.000 Bro, something had happened.

00:02:27.000 Her chin had grown.

00:02:28.000 Her chin was extended and her hair had all turned gray.

00:02:31.000 She looked like she was sick.

00:02:33.000 She was sick.

00:02:34.000 Yeah. You're dying up there, man.

00:02:35.000 That's crazy.

00:02:36.000 I had Commander Chris Hatfield on, and he was at one point in time the longest person that had been in space, wasn't he?

00:02:45.000 He was there for like six months.

00:02:48.000 And he was saying it was unbelievable how difficult it was to recover.

00:02:52.000 Once you get back to Earth, you couldn't walk.

00:02:54.000 It was just like a total vertigo.

00:02:56.000 His whole body was so not used to gravity.

00:02:59.000 All of his bones were weak.

00:03:00.000 All of his muscles were weak.

00:03:02.000 But these bitches seem fine, these ladies.

00:03:05.000 For now.

00:03:06.000 It was quick.

00:03:07.000 Let's not minimize.

00:03:07.000 Let's not minimize the sacrifice they made for a great nation.

00:03:09.000 Yeah, no, it was huge.

00:03:09.000 It was a big deal.

00:03:10.000 For the world, in fact.

00:03:11.000 For the world.

00:03:12.000 They're profoundly different.

00:03:13.000 They're profoundly different now.

00:03:14.000 To show people.

00:03:15.000 What's inspiring?

00:03:17.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:03:18.000 It's inspiring.

00:03:19.000 If a guy who's worth, what, a trillion dollars?

00:03:24.000 Several billion?

00:03:24.000 A hundred billion?

00:03:25.000 Just imagine the conspiracies if they didn't make it.

00:03:28.000 Yeah. Well, there's already people saying that they faked it, which I think is silly.

00:03:33.000 Well, I love those people.

00:03:34.000 But it's great.

00:03:35.000 Those are the people that think space is fake.

00:03:36.000 That's right.

00:03:37.000 Yeah. But they're already people going, well, they faked it.

00:03:41.000 And I'm like, I hope they fake something better than that.

00:03:44.000 I hope.

00:03:45.000 If they're faking stuff and they probably are faking some stuff, God, I hope they're faking stuff that's better than that.

00:03:51.000 I think this is the confusion.

00:03:53.000 I think the confusion is that they essentially got to the threshold of space.

00:03:59.000 They did not get...

00:04:00.000 Like, way out there, where re-entry is very traumatic.

00:04:06.000 And it has, like, if you see, like, those heat shields that they put all over those things, and if they break off on the re-entry, everybody dies.

00:04:14.000 That's because you're way out there, and the amount of heat that gets generated as you're re-entering the atmosphere.

00:04:20.000 I think they're essentially, like, on the border of the atmosphere.

00:04:23.000 Let's see how high did they go up there.

00:04:25.000 They go above that line.

00:04:26.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:04:28.000 So the space shuttle goes three hundred miles.

00:04:29.000 They went a little higher than that Rocket Man documentary that guy who shot himself up in a rocket.

00:04:34.000 They went like a few feet higher than that guy.

00:04:37.000 RIP that guy drove by his grave on the way to Vegas when L.A. burned down.

00:04:41.000 Are they even technically actually in space?

00:04:44.000 I think that's where it floats.

00:04:46.000 That's the line.

00:04:47.000 I might go there.

00:04:48.000 I might do that.

00:04:49.000 Do it.

00:04:50.000 I wouldn't go to Space Space, but I might do the 80 miles.

00:04:53.000 Do that.

00:04:54.000 So 350 miles is the highest anyone has ever gone other than the Apollo astronauts.

00:05:01.000 62. 62 miles.

00:05:02.000 100 kilometers.

00:05:03.000 Okay. 62 miles ain't shit, dude.

00:05:05.000 I drive that in an hour.

00:05:07.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:05:08.000 Yeah. By the way, I agree with you.

00:05:11.000 It's not that far.

00:05:12.000 That's not even here to San Antonio.

00:05:16.000 62 miles ain't shit.

00:05:18.000 But it is kind of technically space.

00:05:20.000 So they get up there and they look at the earth?

00:05:22.000 Yeah, that's why like everybody's calling bullshit on the outside of the capsule.

00:05:26.000 Right. That it wasn't like completely on fire.

00:05:29.000 Right. Destroyed.

00:05:30.000 It's because they didn't go that high.

00:05:31.000 They didn't go that high.

00:05:31.000 That's all it is.

00:05:32.000 Right. But they did go to space technically.

00:05:34.000 They went to space and they lost gravity.

00:05:36.000 The funniest thing is they come back and you need a...

00:05:40.000 Parachute to land.

00:05:41.000 Right. Like at all the technology Elon has.

00:05:44.000 Elon is catching rockets.

00:05:45.000 What could go wrong in something like that?

00:05:50.000 Oh, it could explode on the way up, for sure.

00:05:53.000 Yeah, the way up is not ensured that those things are definitely going to hold it together.

00:05:57.000 So that's the biggest risk.

00:05:58.000 Yeah, you have these cannons filled with rocket fuel that are burning at like twice the...

00:06:04.000 What is the temperature of rocket fuel when it's hot?

00:06:08.000 Is it like...

00:06:10.000 It's like close to the surface of the Sun or some crazy shit.

00:06:14.000 Like, what's the actual temperature?

00:06:17.000 So everything has to be contained while you have insane amounts of fuel burning every second.

00:06:23.000 And huge plumes of flame.

00:06:26.000 Enormous thrust to escape Earth's atmosphere.

00:06:29.000 You're just hoping all those O-rings and all the shit that blew up with the Challenger.

00:06:34.000 So it could have blown up.

00:06:36.000 100%. I mean...

00:06:38.000 Musk has openly said some of these are going to blow up when he's testing them.

00:06:43.000 When they would blow up, you're like, oh, Elon failed again.

00:06:46.000 Like, no, we want it to fail because we want to find out what is the threshold.

00:06:50.000 There's only one way to find out.

00:06:52.000 I wonder if all of them, you think they were like prepared to die?

00:06:55.000 No. Katy Perry was prepared to die.

00:06:57.000 In her eyes, something's off.

00:06:59.000 She looked like a soldier.

00:07:00.000 Something's off with her.

00:07:01.000 I don't know, it's good.

00:07:04.000 What about the hatch, though?

00:07:05.000 Wasn't that kind of a sketch?

00:07:06.000 She has a Mohammed Adah look to her.

00:07:09.000 Well, I think the problem is that the hatch is not a real hatch like a spaceship.

00:07:15.000 Because it's not really going to space.

00:07:17.000 There's no captain.

00:07:18.000 There's no pilot.

00:07:19.000 Right. There's nobody going...

00:07:20.000 Exact the mundo.

00:07:21.000 All the above.

00:07:22.000 Okay. Most hatches, in that regard, they open outwardly so that the pressure of space travel, like when you're shooting that fucking rocket up insane amounts of gravity, doesn't make the door hinges fail and it collapses in on itself and everybody dies.

00:07:39.000 Right. Right?

00:07:40.000 So they have to open outward.

00:07:42.000 Right. So the pressure would keep them shut.

00:07:45.000 So generally, there's a seal.

00:07:47.000 And it's really kind of crazy.

00:07:48.000 I have a friend of mine, a very wealthy businessman, who brings me over to his house the other day.

00:07:53.000 He goes, I want to show you something.

00:07:55.000 And he shows me this diagram.

00:07:57.000 He said, this is from the 1950s.

00:08:00.000 And this is the blueprint for the recreation UFO that they made when they tried to back-engineer the one that they found at Roswell.

00:08:11.000 And this was a diagram.

00:08:13.000 Yeah. Crazy.

00:08:14.000 And it had a crank handle like a submarine door, you know?

00:08:18.000 And they were trying to replicate a craft that had landed, crashed.

00:08:22.000 Yeah. Well, he thinks they did.

00:08:25.000 Wow. He doesn't think it's a trial.

00:08:27.000 He said this is the blueprint because it had the actual, by the way, the exact generator in the center of it that Bob Lazar described in 1989 when he worked at Area S4.

00:08:39.000 What layer of the government do you think is working on projects like that?

00:08:43.000 Like is it all the DARPA people?

00:08:44.000 I think it's...

00:08:46.000 People that are completely disconnected from congressmen, senators, presidents.

00:08:51.000 It's all deep state.

00:08:53.000 They probably belong to an agency without a name.

00:08:57.000 Well, there's probably a bunch of those.

00:08:58.000 And when it comes to this kind of stuff...

00:09:01.000 We already know now because of Doge that there was money that was going with no receipts.

00:09:07.000 Billions and billions of dollars that was just flying out with no receipts.

00:09:11.000 They have no idea where it went.

00:09:13.000 And Elon openly said, if this was a public company, it would be delisted and the people who ran it would go to prison.

00:09:24.000 But because it's the government, you're like, oh, we did.

00:09:28.000 They have no receipts.

00:09:30.000 That could be going to it.

00:09:32.000 You think they'll bring charges against anyone for fraud?

00:09:35.000 That's the worry about disclosure.

00:09:37.000 I think that's what's holding it back.

00:09:38.000 I think people need concrete stuff.

00:09:44.000 Yeah. You want to see concrete?

00:09:46.000 Let's hear Katy Perry talk about it.

00:09:47.000 Right. I'm going to send you one.

00:09:51.000 I sent you a few this morning.

00:09:52.000 I said, let's discuss.

00:09:54.000 I saw her.

00:09:55.000 I saw her.

00:09:55.000 I chatted about it on my show.

00:09:56.000 I saw her say something about we weren't Taking space, we're making space.

00:10:02.000 That's the one I want to send you.

00:10:03.000 Which I thought was an interesting scientific...

00:10:06.000 That's not this one?

00:10:06.000 No, no, no.

00:10:07.000 I got another one.

00:10:08.000 I got some better ones.

00:10:10.000 What is funny is immediately after they landed...

00:10:12.000 Well, actually, that one's pretty good.

00:10:13.000 It is funny to do something like this, and then everyone hates you.

00:10:16.000 Like, everyone hates them now.

00:10:17.000 They shouldn't hate her.

00:10:19.000 Oh, no, that's not it, Jamie.

00:10:20.000 I'll send it to you.

00:10:20.000 I have so many of them.

00:10:23.000 I don't think that one has the making space.

00:10:26.000 Try this one.

00:10:30.000 It's so fun with people.

00:10:32.000 Why is it so fun when people get pretentious?

00:10:34.000 I guess because you're terrified that you would ever do it.

00:10:36.000 Well, yeah, and I also think it's fun to see somebody who has no self-awareness.

00:10:39.000 They're always the most fun.

00:10:41.000 I will never be the same.

00:10:43.000 I mean, when you get up there and you see the earth and it's so beautiful and it just fills the screen and it's not just your window.

00:10:52.000 It's like everybody's window and there's no boundaries.

00:10:55.000 There's no border.

00:10:56.000 There's just earth and it just fills the screen.

00:11:00.000 I like how it says"astronaut." You mentioned to us

00:11:30.000 prior to going up, you said that you needed to go to space to heal.

00:11:34.000 I know you're only a few minutes removed from this incredible experience.

00:11:38.000 Do you feel healed?

00:11:41.000 Now, you are officially an astronaut.

00:11:43.000 Thank you so much.

00:11:44.000 How do you feel?

00:11:46.000 I feel super connected to love.

00:11:49.000 Goodness. I will never be the same.

00:11:52.000 I mean, when you get up there...

00:11:53.000 No, that's it.

00:11:54.000 That's it.

00:11:54.000 There's another one.

00:11:55.000 There's another one.

00:11:56.000 She said making space.

00:11:58.000 But how great is it that they just get called astronauts now?

00:12:01.000 It's funny to hear the richest guy in the world's wife go, we're all in it together.

00:12:06.000 Oh boy.

00:12:07.000 Yeah, I don't know if people feel that.

00:12:11.000 Yeah, we're definitely not all in it with you.

00:12:13.000 I don't feel like we're all in it together with you.

00:12:16.000 Can we get on your jet?

00:12:17.000 How in it together are we?

00:12:19.000 Yeah, what does that mean?

00:12:20.000 It feels like you hand-selected a couple of friends to go do this.

00:12:24.000 Yeah. Yeah.

00:12:25.000 I mean, it should have been a lottery system, like Willy Wonka, where just seven random people should have been able to go in this.

00:12:32.000 I would do it just to change my...

00:12:34.000 That would be fun.

00:12:34.000 That would be good.

00:12:35.000 Just seven random people.

00:12:37.000 Just pull out some guy who's not supposed to be here.

00:12:40.000 Just a cashier at HEB, someone from MS-13.

00:12:43.000 Yeah, that was what I was thinking.

00:12:44.000 Get him in.

00:12:45.000 Someone from MS-13.

00:12:46.000 Someone from MS-13.

00:12:47.000 And Lauren Sanchez and Gayle King and, you know.

00:12:51.000 Oh, you see they released the footage.

00:12:54.000 Dash cam footage or police footage of the guy who they're saying was just a father.

00:13:00.000 The Maryland father?

00:13:01.000 Yeah, as he got pulled over with eight undocumented people in his truck.

00:13:05.000 They were all supposedly staying at his house.

00:13:07.000 Yeah, I didn't see that.

00:13:09.000 The wife had a restraining order against him, a protection order.

00:13:13.000 I saw that there was a restraining order.

00:13:15.000 I saw that he was hanging out with two guys that were in MS-13.

00:13:19.000 Yeah, they released the...

00:13:21.000 Yeah, he's definitely...

00:13:22.000 Sketchy. They have made a few mistakes.

00:13:25.000 He's not this Maryland father.

00:13:26.000 No. The guy that scares me is the hairdresser.

00:13:29.000 The gay hairstylist?

00:13:30.000 Yeah. Or there's a guy with a tattoo.

00:13:33.000 That's him.

00:13:34.000 Oh, the hairdresser has a mom and dad.

00:13:37.000 Oh, no.

00:13:37.000 There was a guy with an autism awareness tattoo, and they thought it was like an MS-13 tattoo, but it doesn't look like an MS-13 tattoo.

00:13:45.000 It's a literal...

00:13:46.000 The problem is everybody's a liar.

00:13:48.000 You don't know.

00:13:49.000 So the liberals are liars and the Republicans are liars.

00:13:52.000 Everyone's lying.

00:13:53.000 They're all lying.

00:13:53.000 And if they did ship some- Ironically, the only people I trust are MS-13.

00:13:57.000 And podcasters.

00:13:58.000 Because they'll tell you.

00:13:59.000 And podcasters.

00:14:00.000 Podcasters and MS-13.

00:14:01.000 That's all I trust.

00:14:02.000 I would love if you just had MS-13 on.

00:14:03.000 Just three guys with tattoos.

00:14:06.000 Because, by the way, there would be no outrage.

00:14:09.000 That's what's hilarious.

00:14:10.000 If you had three MS-13 gang members, not one person would go, why did he have that?

00:14:16.000 Why did he platform them?

00:14:18.000 Nobody would.

00:14:19.000 But if I have Ian Carroll on.

00:14:20.000 If you have anyone else on, it'll be a horrible thing.

00:14:23.000 But if it was three guys, MS-13 with head-to-toe tattoos, who admitted to killing multiple people, and you said, now tell me about what it's like to grow up in San Pedro Sula or whatever.

00:14:35.000 It would be okay.

00:14:36.000 Well, the reason why that's good is because I think it's important to learn about other cultures.

00:14:40.000 Well, a thousand percent.

00:14:41.000 And they should have their chance to talk.

00:14:43.000 And what's not cool is talking about maybe Israel did something wrong.

00:14:47.000 You should really not do that.

00:14:49.000 I think it's criminal of you to even discuss anything.

00:14:55.000 Well, apparently I've been co-opted by what's called the woke right.

00:14:59.000 The woke right.

00:15:00.000 That's what I heard.

00:15:00.000 There's a woke right now?

00:15:01.000 Yes. Fascinating.

00:15:03.000 They're co-opting.

00:15:04.000 I still haven't accepted the fact that I've left the left.

00:15:06.000 I did a CNN interview for an hour because I'm promoting my special.

00:15:10.000 Oh, my God.

00:15:11.000 Did you really?

00:15:11.000 Yeah. Who did you talk to?

00:15:13.000 This girl, Elle Reeves.

00:15:14.000 Was she cool?

00:15:15.000 Elle, she was cool.

00:15:16.000 You know when you see the Vice documentaries where she talks to the Nazis and the incels?

00:15:20.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:15:21.000 She does that?

00:15:21.000 It was that chick, and they sent her in.

00:15:24.000 Oh, that's a good move for them.

00:15:25.000 I was like, this is hilarious.

00:15:26.000 So I'm sitting there, and she sits down, and she's like, Are there any left-wing comedians?

00:15:30.000 And I named ten of them that are all in arenas.

00:15:32.000 And she goes, oh.

00:15:33.000 Because their whole...

00:15:35.000 Thing now is that podcasters are the most powerful people in the world.

00:15:38.000 And she goes, do you think your friends are the new establishment?

00:15:40.000 I said, well, there's 22 intelligence agencies and entire legacy media.

00:15:44.000 There's lots of Ivy League schools.

00:15:47.000 There's this, there's that.

00:15:48.000 Do I think Theo Vaughn's the new establishment?

00:15:50.000 No. I don't think so.

00:15:53.000 I think you ran a really unpopular candidate.

00:15:56.000 I don't think Americans like child sex changes.

00:15:59.000 And I don't think they want an open border.

00:16:00.000 And I think if you, you know, co-opted some of those issues, you might have won.

00:16:05.000 They said to me at CNN, they're like, we're editing the interview.

00:16:07.000 I said, put the hour out.

00:16:08.000 I sat there for an hour and we had a nice conversation.

00:16:12.000 But, you know, we talked for one hour and I was like, put it out.

00:16:16.000 I'm like, I understand if you can't put it out.

00:16:18.000 And then she goes like this.

00:16:19.000 She goes, I can't believe you'd show up.

00:16:25.000 People have said that.

00:16:26.000 They can't come on here because Joe Rogan would get mad at them.

00:16:29.000 I said, that's absolutely ridiculous.

00:16:31.000 Why would I care?

00:16:31.000 I said, he doesn't care.

00:16:32.000 He would never care.

00:16:34.000 I said- Oh, that's so silly.

00:16:35.000 It's the silliest thing ever.

00:16:36.000 They think we're at war.

00:16:38.000 I just said, put out the thing.

00:16:39.000 Put out the hour online.

00:16:40.000 If you can only put out a few minutes on network, fine.

00:16:43.000 But it's wrong to have someone come in and talk for an hour.

00:16:46.000 Right. And then use three minutes.

00:16:48.000 And then use five minutes.

00:16:50.000 Yeah. It's fucked up.

00:16:51.000 So how much did they use?

00:16:52.000 We don't know yet.

00:16:53.000 They haven't put it out.

00:16:54.000 And did they say, we can't put the whole hour out?

00:16:57.000 I texted this journalist, and she texted me.

00:16:59.000 She goes, I'm pushing for like a long-form release.

00:17:01.000 I go, yeah, man.

00:17:03.000 Just put out the interview.

00:17:04.000 Also, do you guys want ratings or no?

00:17:06.000 Yeah, we had a conversation about all these things you guys talk about.

00:17:10.000 Yeah, you guys have a website.

00:17:11.000 Then what are we doing?

00:17:13.000 Don't you have a YouTube page?

00:17:14.000 Put it out.

00:17:15.000 Put the fucking whole hour out.

00:17:17.000 I go, she goes, what do you think that Joe Rogenshire, why is it so popular?

00:17:21.000 I go, well, one of the reasons is he doesn't edit people.

00:17:25.000 They're not edited.

00:17:26.000 They come on, they say what they want to say and there's no editing.

00:17:28.000 So what's weird about those institutions is they will sit you down for an hour and then I guess cherry pick what they think.

00:17:35.000 Their audience wants to see?

00:17:36.000 Well, they just want what they think is going to grab the most ratings and is not going to make them look stupid.

00:17:42.000 So if you're mocking them openly...

00:17:44.000 Yeah. Well, she didn't know when she said...

00:17:46.000 She goes, comedy's right-wing.

00:17:48.000 I go, she goes, name left of center comedians.

00:17:50.000 I named literally eight of them and I said they all are in arenas.

00:17:53.000 I go, what are you talking about?

00:17:54.000 It's so dumb.

00:17:55.000 What are you talking about?

00:17:56.000 It's so dumb.

00:17:56.000 I was like, you're saying a comedy's...

00:17:58.000 What? By the way, I used to be left of center according to the metrics of 2015.

00:18:03.000 I said there's a lot of...

00:18:05.000 Joe's positions, if you look at them, that are left of center positions.

00:18:08.000 And there's a lot of my positions or anyone's positions.

00:18:11.000 I said there's nobody that you can easily put in a box.

00:18:14.000 But they want you to be in that box.

00:18:16.000 Well, they're silly.

00:18:17.000 And they also want me to be an enemy of CNN.

00:18:19.000 I don't give a fuck if anyone cares.

00:18:20.000 You don't care?

00:18:20.000 Who cares?

00:18:20.000 By the way, I hope CNN corrects course and does real news.

00:18:24.000 Right. And just concentrates on the news and all this fucking...

00:18:27.000 I don't want editorial comments from morons.

00:18:32.000 So when you're force-feeding me Don Lemon's opinion on how the world should be and how everyone should be shamed if they don't get vaccinated.

00:18:42.000 You're force-feeding me morons.

00:18:44.000 Of course your ratings plummeted.

00:18:47.000 Of course.

00:18:48.000 And you guys lied about so many fucking things and never corrected yourselves.

00:18:53.000 Is there an arm of the Democratic National Committee?

00:18:58.000 And they're an arm of that party.

00:19:00.000 Whether they are forced to be or whether they choose to be because they identify with being Democrat and they want to skew things completely towards the left.

00:19:09.000 I don't know.

00:19:10.000 I don't know what the answer to that is.

00:19:11.000 All of the old Bush era, neoconservative people who pushed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Patriot Act and Guantanamo Bay and all of this stuff all find homes usually on MSNBC or CNN.

00:19:27.000 Advocating for war with Iran or an escalation in Ukraine.

00:19:33.000 So it's kind of an establishment.

00:19:35.000 They don't really care about party.

00:19:40.000 They're doing better now, though.

00:19:41.000 I mean, when they have Scott Jennings on.

00:19:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:44.000 He's great.

00:19:46.000 That's the kind of conversations you need.

00:19:48.000 Completely ridiculous people are out of your fucking minds versus Scott Jennings.

00:19:51.000 Those are great.

00:19:52.000 You need to have some fun, yeah.

00:19:53.000 It makes these ridiculous woke anchors look retarded.

00:19:58.000 Yeah. And they should.

00:19:59.000 They are.

00:20:00.000 In the world, there are good principled arguments against right-wing things.

00:20:05.000 Yes. You just can't have people who are completely out of it make them.

00:20:10.000 Exactly. Exactly.

00:20:12.000 After the election, one of my favorite ones, was it CNBC or CNN?

00:20:15.000 I forget what it was.

00:20:16.000 This guy was talking about this whole right-wing podcast ecosystem that's incredibly well-funded and organized.

00:20:23.000 What are you talking about?

00:20:25.000 You could literally go to the roots of how it all started.

00:20:28.000 You could see every one of us doing our first podcast with a fucking webcam.

00:20:33.000 There's no funding.

00:20:36.000 What are we talking about?

00:20:37.000 What are we saying?

00:20:38.000 Even the idea that we're all organized together or that like I would want to prevent people from going on CNN.

00:20:44.000 Well, it's just silly.

00:20:45.000 I could not care less.

00:20:47.000 Because that's the way they operate.

00:20:48.000 You always usually like a lot of times you end up accusing people of something you're doing.

00:20:52.000 Right. So you because you are familiar with that.

00:20:55.000 So they're like Well, we have a top-down corporate oligarchy telling us what to do.

00:20:59.000 Is that the way it works with you?

00:21:00.000 I'm like, no, Joe Rogan doesn't email people at the beginning of the week and go, hey guys, this is the most insane thing ever.

00:21:07.000 But not only that, I want them to do well.

00:21:09.000 I really don't care.

00:21:10.000 They obviously don't want me to do well, but I don't care.

00:21:15.000 Look, if they turned it around and CNN became great, I'd watch it all the time.

00:21:19.000 It used to be great.

00:21:20.000 It used to have parts unknown on it.

00:21:21.000 The new thing they're doing, this is a very interesting thing that's happening.

00:21:25.000 If somebody says something that they don't like and they can't immediately dismiss it, they go, but the fans of that thing are bad people.

00:21:34.000 This is an interesting attack point.

00:21:37.000 They go, but somebody with a massive audience, if they find a sliver of that audience to be objectionable in any way, they then go, well, the fans of that...

00:21:49.000 Type of questioning are anti-semitic or racist or something.

00:21:52.000 And they don't deal with the actual facts or the actual line of argumentation.

00:21:59.000 Yeah, it's just a sneaky debate tactic.

00:22:01.000 When you're dealing with, I have 19 million YouTube subscribers.

00:22:05.000 How can you nail that down to the fans?

00:22:09.000 You don't know.

00:22:10.000 You're just talking out of your ass.

00:22:12.000 This is a non-argument.

00:22:13.000 It's a stupid point.

00:22:14.000 And by the way, when you're talking about actual comments, We've already established that, I don't know what the number is, but there's a huge number of people that are commenting that aren't even people.

00:22:28.000 They're bots.

00:22:29.000 They're state-sponsored bots.

00:22:31.000 They could be from Ukraine, they could be from America, they could be from Russia, they could be from Israel.

00:22:36.000 And I want more of them.

00:22:37.000 So if they're a state-sponsored bots, it can...

00:22:40.000 They can jack my ratings up.

00:22:41.000 They can.

00:22:42.000 If they want to come over to me.

00:22:44.000 You have anything nice to say about Israel?

00:22:45.000 Any Ukraine.

00:22:46.000 I'm waiting for the money.

00:22:48.000 I texted Barry Weiss and go, here's the way this game works.

00:22:52.000 I get a little bit of money first.

00:22:54.000 Not I go on and defend whatever the hell you people want to do.

00:22:58.000 I'm not going to get my beak wet.

00:23:00.000 If you and I go to Israel, will you slap on the yarmulke?

00:23:03.000 Absolutely. Absolutely.

00:23:04.000 Which is the wall?

00:23:05.000 Absolutely. Absolutely.

00:23:07.000 Oh, yeah, sure.

00:23:09.000 And my film is greenlit when?

00:23:12.000 Do you have to kiss the wall?

00:23:13.000 Is that the word?

00:23:14.000 No, I don't know anything.

00:23:15.000 Is that the wailing wall?

00:23:16.000 I don't know, but Mike Huckabee's over there like a good Christian.

00:23:19.000 Oh, well, he loves it over there.

00:23:20.000 Because it's Easter Sunday.

00:23:20.000 That's where he's supposed to be.

00:23:21.000 Because the fundamentalist Christians go hard with the Israel thing.

00:23:26.000 They're like, let's go.

00:23:27.000 They think Jesus is coming back to that spot.

00:23:28.000 Yeah, what's very interesting is if Israel said to a fundamentalist Christian, if Netanyahu called Mike Huckabee and said, we're going to have to nuke Iran, he'd go, Let's do it.

00:23:37.000 That's what Jesus wants.

00:23:39.000 Let's do it.

00:23:39.000 That's what Jesus would want.

00:23:40.000 A nuclear war.

00:23:41.000 So that's where we've gotten.

00:23:47.000 Jesus wants us to use the nukes.

00:23:49.000 Where we have fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims on the other side and everybody's playing this weird game.

00:23:58.000 Yeah, there he is.

00:23:59.000 Boy, he looks old.

00:24:00.000 Jesus. This is just hilarious if this is the freeze frame from the episode that we released.

00:24:05.000 These guys, they stop dyeing their hair at some point in time and just say, oh, fuck it.

00:24:09.000 You know, like Stallone did?

00:24:10.000 The best hat they have is the Shrimel.

00:24:12.000 They wear it in Brooklyn.

00:24:13.000 It's that big furry Russian hat.

00:24:15.000 Oh, I love that hat.

00:24:15.000 That hat looks sick.

00:24:16.000 That is a sick hat.

00:24:17.000 It looks like something out of Game of Thrones.

00:24:19.000 Yeah, that's a hat.

00:24:19.000 Like, I don't give a fuck what you think.

00:24:21.000 Doesn't matter.

00:24:21.000 I'm a member of the tribe, bitch.

00:24:23.000 I got strings hanging from my belt.

00:24:24.000 I got a hat.

00:24:25.000 And I'm rocking on it.

00:24:26.000 I got a hat.

00:24:26.000 A bare dick hat.

00:24:28.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty sick hat.

00:24:29.000 Yeah, I like that hat.

00:24:30.000 I think people...

00:24:31.000 People can't get past the fact that, like...

00:24:33.000 Yeah, look at that hat.

00:24:35.000 That has the shit.

00:24:36.000 What's that made out of?

00:24:39.000 Let's answer the question.

00:24:40.000 Why do Orthodox Jewish men...

00:24:41.000 Where's Ari when you need him?

00:24:42.000 That's a great point.

00:24:43.000 Ari never had to wear one of those hats, though.

00:24:45.000 No, but he'd look good.

00:24:46.000 Yeah. I got a ton of hats from different UFC fighters.

00:24:49.000 Yeah. From, like, Dagestan and from Kazakhstan.

00:24:55.000 I got a cool Kazakhstan hat from Shavkat Raman.

00:24:57.000 It's a sick hat.

00:24:58.000 That is pretty dope.

00:24:59.000 It's an objectively sick hat.

00:25:00.000 Why didn't they wear it, Jamie?

00:25:02.000 There was an article that just said it before that.

00:25:04.000 The fur one.

00:25:06.000 If you go back, up in the upper left corner, yeah.

00:25:10.000 Jew in the city is the name of the website.

00:25:14.000 God, I hope a Jewish person is running that website.

00:25:16.000 Otherwise, they're going to get assassinated.

00:25:18.000 The fur hat is known by the Yiddish name.

00:25:22.000 How do you say that?

00:25:23.000 Shrymal? Shrymal.

00:25:24.000 Shrymal. Yeah.

00:25:25.000 The Shrymal was adopted by Eastern European Jewish communities in the 18th century and coincided with the rise of Ascidic Judaism.

00:25:31.000 Technically, a Shrymal is one particular style of hat.

00:25:34.000 There are others.

00:25:35.000 One that might be familiar on site is the Spodick.

00:25:37.000 Oh, you fucking pop-up ad, cocksucker.

00:25:40.000 Enter your email, which is taller and more cylindrical than a strimal.

00:25:44.000 A spodic is the style generally favored by a Hasidic sex of Polish descent.

00:25:48.000 To the casual observer, however, they're all strimals.

00:25:50.000 Strimals made from a large piece of velvet surrounded by fur.

00:25:53.000 Fur usually comes from the tips of the tails of sable, martens, or fox.

00:25:58.000 Nice! Synthetic strimals do exist.

00:26:01.000 They're more common in Israel than elsewhere.

00:26:03.000 Interesting. Strimal can cost thousands of dollars, so it's not uncommon for a Hasidic man to own a second, cheaper Strimal so that his main Strimal would not be battered by the elements.

00:26:15.000 Interesting. Yeah.

00:26:16.000 Interesting. It's a cool hat.

00:26:19.000 Let everybody know you're part of the tribe.

00:26:20.000 It's a fun hat.

00:26:21.000 Maybe comedians need like a thing that we wear.

00:26:24.000 A hat?

00:26:24.000 Yeah, like a thing.

00:26:25.000 That's very good.

00:26:26.000 We don't give a fuck.

00:26:26.000 Yeah. I like that Kanye West black Klan suit.

00:26:29.000 That's dope.

00:26:30.000 How about his giant swastika in diamonds?

00:26:33.000 Have you seen that?

00:26:34.000 What's funny is a jeweler made that.

00:26:36.000 Oh, yeah.

00:26:37.000 And a Jewish jeweler.

00:26:38.000 Yeah. An Israeli Jewish guy made that.

00:26:41.000 Significant markup.

00:26:42.000 Yeah. Yeah, of course.

00:26:43.000 I would.

00:26:44.000 I've got to give you a swastika tax.

00:26:45.000 I would.

00:26:46.000 It's only fair.

00:26:47.000 Yeah, you need a tax.

00:26:48.000 I think it's only fair.

00:26:49.000 If you want a Jewish man to make a swastika, you've got to pay extra.

00:26:51.000 People got to separate, you know, and I think this is not...

00:26:54.000 I think people got to separate, like, governments from people, intelligence agencies from people.

00:26:59.000 I think that's the whole thing.

00:27:00.000 I think people...

00:27:01.000 Are losing the ability to do that in this case, right?

00:27:04.000 Because when you criticize Israel, you criticize something that may or may not have been done by a government or intelligence agency, you're not criticizing people.

00:27:13.000 Right. You're criticizing a group of people making decisions.

00:27:16.000 I don't think America always does things that are in the best interest of the American people.

00:27:20.000 Right. Well, this is the problem with when everybody sort of picks sides during the COVID thing, whether or not we should trust the vaccine companies.

00:27:30.000 You did it because you're on the left and the people on the right were the ones who didn't want to take it.

00:27:35.000 So instead of just looking at it objectively, the people on the left were like, everybody who doesn't agree is a science denier and it got like really kooky because it got ideological.

00:27:46.000 And as soon as it's ideological, you can fucking justify anything.

00:27:50.000 This is how...

00:27:51.000 How Jewish Americans are justifying, well, Hamas uses people as human shields.

00:27:56.000 They'll say things like that.

00:27:57.000 It's a way you can justify mass murder.

00:27:59.000 It's a way you can justify anything.

00:28:02.000 Anything. As long as the tribe on your side, whatever your clan is, you can justify things.

00:28:09.000 And so people stop thinking.

00:28:11.000 They stop thinking and they just think completely along ideological lines.

00:28:15.000 It's frustrating as fuck.

00:28:17.000 Yeah, it is.

00:28:17.000 It is.

00:28:18.000 And passionately.

00:28:19.000 Yeah. Very passionately.

00:28:20.000 They're right.

00:28:21.000 You're wrong.

00:28:21.000 No one is ever questioning anything.

00:28:24.000 No. Why do they question science?

00:28:26.000 No one goes, wait a minute.

00:28:28.000 I think it's healthy to every now and then go, maybe I'm wrong.

00:28:31.000 Yeah, there was just something that got released today that showed, they just released today that showed that COVID-19 definitively came from that lab.

00:28:40.000 Thousand percent.

00:28:40.000 One hundred percent proof it came from that lab.

00:28:43.000 I read it, a little bit of it on the way here.

00:28:45.000 Yeah, it's fucking nuts.

00:28:47.000 It's nuts, man.

00:28:48.000 It's nuts.

00:28:49.000 These fucking people, they just got roped into this group of criminals.

00:28:54.000 And it was a completely man-made disease.

00:28:55.000 100%. And they knew that from the moment it happened.

00:29:00.000 It leaked.

00:29:00.000 The moment it happened.

00:29:01.000 And they just lied.

00:29:03.000 And Fauci is just out there walking around.

00:29:06.000 That's an interesting case when someone like that, in that position, repeatedly lied to people.

00:29:17.000 About the origins of that.

00:29:19.000 Yeah. And is allowed to just be free.

00:29:22.000 And faces zero consequences.

00:29:24.000 Meanwhile, they were trying to put Trump in jail because he...

00:29:28.000 Inflated the price of a condo.

00:29:30.000 Yeah. He got an appraisal that was higher, and then they lied.

00:29:35.000 Well, their appraisal was horseshit.

00:29:37.000 They lied about him.

00:29:38.000 Leticia James is now in trouble for the exact same shit?

00:29:41.000 Really? You didn't see that?

00:29:42.000 That makes sense.

00:29:43.000 They're investigating her because she allegedly, according to Megyn Kelly, who I trust implicitly, allegedly went and got mortgages with her father listing them as husband and wife on buildings multiple times,

00:29:58.000 and then also lied about the amount of bedrooms that were in a place.

00:30:02.000 Because if it's four bedrooms, you get one tax rate.

00:30:05.000 If it's five, it's more.

00:30:07.000 So she lied.

00:30:07.000 It was a five, and she said it was a four.

00:30:09.000 Right. Well, this is what they all do.

00:30:12.000 So I think really the funny thing about all the cases that they brought against Trump, a lot of those cases were rooted in just politicized version of something that's pretty standard that a lot of people have done.

00:30:27.000 Yeah, they always overvalue their properties.

00:30:29.000 Always overvalue properties.

00:30:30.000 And people get away with it.

00:30:32.000 And it's not...

00:30:33.000 It's not a crime.

00:30:35.000 But here's the thing about the Trump thing is that all the people had been paid.

00:30:39.000 So, not only was it profitable for the banks, he paid everything on time.

00:30:43.000 There's no criminal.

00:30:45.000 Like, there's no crime.

00:30:47.000 No one got victimized.

00:30:48.000 Nothing happened.

00:30:50.000 They profited.

00:30:51.000 And then this crazy lady, with a terrible past, thought that she was going to be able to pull this off because she was on the team that she thought was going to win.

00:30:59.000 Like, think about putting all your eggs in one basket.

00:31:02.000 Like, they've got a bunch of morons to sign in on these things.

00:31:05.000 It feels like you have...

00:31:06.000 We're in some kind of cold war between two factions in American politics that are using courts and lawyers to go at each other.

00:31:18.000 It's not...

00:31:19.000 Hot war.

00:31:20.000 People aren't fighting in the streets, but it does seem to be these parties seem to no longer view each other as different sides of the same coin.

00:31:31.000 There seems to be, especially when it comes to Trump, it seems to be like they cannot, you know, see him as anything other than an existential threat that has to be vanquished.

00:31:42.000 At any cost.

00:31:43.000 Right. And the problem with that is when you deny good things and only highlight bad things that everybody knows it.

00:31:50.000 Well, now you're playing a game and your game is I never tell the truth.

00:31:54.000 I tell you parts of the truth that I like.

00:31:56.000 Yeah. And you gotta win that game.

00:31:58.000 If you're playing that game, you gotta win.

00:32:00.000 If you do all these things, they have to work.

00:32:02.000 And if Trump gets in office, even if you did all these things, it's a problem.

00:32:06.000 You're fucked.

00:32:07.000 Then it's a problem.

00:32:08.000 You know, it's like with JFK, they got him.

00:32:10.000 You know, obviously not good, but they got him.

00:32:14.000 And then that slammed the door shut.

00:32:15.000 And then all their people came in and kept a cover-up going on.

00:32:18.000 I wish I really understood all this stuff that we talk about.

00:32:22.000 Yeah. Because...

00:32:23.000 There's an argument that we haven't had a real president since JFK got shot.

00:32:27.000 That's probably a good argument.

00:32:29.000 And there's maybe arguments that we actually didn't have real presidents prior to JFK.

00:32:34.000 Right. Well, what do you think is happening now, then?

00:32:38.000 I think you have these guys right here.

00:32:40.000 These guys that go into the CIA, they learn all about these underground...

00:32:49.000 They have all of these different relationships all over the world, right?

00:32:54.000 Weapons, drug running, weapons, all these different terrorist groups, crime syndicates, right?

00:33:03.000 Their job is to know...

00:33:05.000 Information about every government, all of the separatist groups that could potentially take over and become the next government.

00:33:13.000 They have all these connections.

00:33:15.000 And then they either leave the CIA, they retire, or supposedly it never occurs to any of them to make a buck.

00:33:24.000 That's the real question, right?

00:33:26.000 It never occurs to any of these people that there might be a great way to make a buck.

00:33:33.000 Working with some of these people outside of Congress, the White House, all of that.

00:33:39.000 That's as it's been explained to me by pretty smart people.

00:33:43.000 That's what you have.

00:33:44.000 You have a rogue element of people in those agencies that have massive amounts of money.

00:33:52.000 And they're very well connected.

00:33:54.000 And they're running weapons.

00:33:56.000 And the president has no idea what's going on.

00:33:59.000 And Congress has no idea what's going on.

00:34:02.000 They're not briefing a teacher from Georgia who got elected because he promised he was going to build a fucking shopping mall in a suburb of Atlanta about what they're doing in Syria.

00:34:15.000 Briefing these people?

00:34:17.000 Exactly. There's nothing democratic about what's happening.

00:34:19.000 And so then you think to yourself, you're like, well, how do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut?

00:34:24.000 How do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut?

00:34:26.000 Cha-ching!

00:34:27.000 Then we go, not only money, but that's when we bring in Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:34:32.000 That's when we bring in Jeffrey Epstein, right?

00:34:34.000 That's when we bring in people who go, let's all have fun.

00:34:38.000 We've got a great weekend getaway planned.

00:34:41.000 And then we can all be on camera doing something that would get us thrown in jail, have people rightly disgusted and want to kill us.

00:34:48.000 And the worst things ever are now on camera somewhere.

00:34:53.000 Those tapes are somewhere.

00:34:55.000 Now everybody is completely incapable of ever coming out and saying what's going on.

00:35:06.000 And then those people are running a parallel government.

00:35:13.000 It's a parallel command structure.

00:35:15.000 And that's a huge problem.

00:35:17.000 And it was essentially completely in control for four years.

00:35:20.000 Probably for more than four.

00:35:22.000 But for the last four, for sure.

00:35:24.000 Thousand percent.

00:35:24.000 That's the best example we've ever had of that.

00:35:26.000 Thousand percent.

00:35:27.000 That guy's never really running things.

00:35:29.000 Thousand percent.

00:35:30.000 There's no way they let him.

00:35:32.000 It's probably still in control to a certain degree now because it's very hard to – when you have something like that happening, it is very difficult to completely shut it down.

00:35:46.000 Very hard.

00:35:48.000 Well, here's a perfect example that we know it's definitely running things because Trump is still trying to figure out why he got shot.

00:35:55.000 He was like, I want more information.

00:35:58.000 Yeah. Like, there's no information coming to him about...

00:36:01.000 There's not going to be information.

00:36:03.000 There's not going to be information.

00:36:04.000 That's a crazy story.

00:36:07.000 You should try to connect.

00:36:08.000 Like, if it's not America that did it, if it's not us, it's not intelligence agencies that did it, then it means a foreign government that hijacked this kid's brain and got him to climb on top of that roof.

00:36:16.000 Like, somebody tried to get someone to assassinate a guy who was running for president, and no one seems to be interested in finding who that person or that group who influenced this kid is.

00:36:26.000 So many of these ex-intelligence chiefs pop up all over the world.

00:36:30.000 They pop up in Dubai.

00:36:31.000 They pop up on...

00:36:33.000 They like to travel.

00:36:34.000 They love traveling.

00:36:36.000 They're having meetings with people.

00:36:37.000 They're all over the place.

00:36:38.000 They love people.

00:36:39.000 They love cultures.

00:36:41.000 They love meeting different cultures.

00:36:43.000 Yeah, the food's great.

00:36:44.000 And supposedly, I heard from someone who's, again, smart, and I consider trustworthy, that there's actually large sectors of the global economy that are moved more in this direction than you'd think.

00:36:55.000 Like, there are tentacles into very large investment banks and private equity companies that a lot of these guys have.

00:37:03.000 Let's put it that way.

00:37:04.000 Obviously, it's not a shocking thing.

00:37:06.000 Why would the government let a private equity company operate with impunity?

00:37:11.000 Right. Especially if they're controlling regulations and they're like, let's work together.

00:37:17.000 There doesn't seem to be a good answer to any of this.

00:37:20.000 That becomes the real issue.

00:37:22.000 You ever get invited to these, like...

00:37:26.000 Fucking Illuminati conferences or any of these crazy things?

00:37:29.000 No, they wanted me to do stand-up at one conference and it wasn't like an Illuminati kind.

00:37:32.000 I think it was like a...

00:37:33.000 I don't know.

00:37:33.000 It was like some type of low-grade Illuminati.

00:37:36.000 Yeah. That's how they start.

00:37:38.000 Like kind of faux Illuminati.

00:37:38.000 That's like the minor leagues.

00:37:39.000 Yeah. And then eventually you go to some weird ranch in the mountains of Wyoming.

00:37:45.000 Well, that sounds nice.

00:37:47.000 Actually, it does sound nice.

00:37:48.000 Maybe. No, I think that like...

00:37:50.000 It does seem weird that a lot of...

00:37:54.000 Once you get to a certain level, people take an interest in you that never were interested.

00:38:01.000 For sure.

00:38:03.000 People are interested.

00:38:04.000 Welcome to my world.

00:38:07.000 It is strange that people seem to care about you or what you're saying.

00:38:14.000 People are going, I think your read on that is wrong.

00:38:18.000 And you're like, why do you care what it is?

00:38:20.000 I'm a fucking guy with a talk, you know, microphone once or twice a week.

00:38:24.000 Yeah, they don't like that.

00:38:25.000 They don't like people having influence that haven't been sanctioned.

00:38:28.000 They don't like that.

00:38:29.000 Yeah, they want all influence to be top down, all influence to be a part of a giant corporation.

00:38:35.000 Yeah. That's what they want.

00:38:36.000 They don't want influence to be just regular people.

00:38:39.000 Regular people are fringe.

00:38:40.000 They're far this or far that.

00:38:43.000 They're problematic.

00:38:44.000 They spew misinformation.

00:38:46.000 There's no one that spews more misinformation than CNN.

00:38:50.000 They spew a lot.

00:38:50.000 Over the years, how many times you guys, just what you guys did over COVID, if you were a podcaster, you'd be shut down.

00:38:57.000 Right. Like, if the podcasters were the one telling everybody to get vaxxed, you get it, you won't spread it, you won't this, you won't that.

00:39:04.000 There's no side effects.

00:39:06.000 If podcasters are saying that, but the establishment news was saying, hold on, this is an experimental vaccine.

00:39:11.000 We should not be asking women who are pregnant to take this.

00:39:14.000 We should not be asking kids who are in no danger to take this.

00:39:17.000 We do not know the long-term consequences.

00:39:19.000 If podcasters were saying that...

00:39:22.000 You know, podcasters were on the government side instead of CNN.

00:39:28.000 If CNN was the wise ones that told everybody to be cautious, they would want us prosecuted.

00:39:32.000 They would be going after us for all the side effects that people are experiencing.

00:39:36.000 You have blood on your hands.

00:39:37.000 You're responsible for strokes and heart attacks and myocarditis and all sorts of autoimmune issues.

00:39:42.000 Well, you also have to think about how much easier it is for, let's say, an intelligence community to manipulate them than it is to come in here.

00:39:48.000 Like, an intelligence community is not going to go, all right, let's find...

00:39:52.000 What you have to do is bring me to the UFOs.

00:39:53.000 That's all I ask.

00:39:54.000 For sure.

00:39:55.000 You keep telling them that.

00:39:56.000 Yes. That's all you have to do.

00:39:58.000 What do you want me to do?

00:39:59.000 It's very easy.

00:39:59.000 We're going to go to war with Kosovo?

00:40:01.000 I don't even know where Kosovo is on a map, but if you tell me where the UFOs are, I'll have a guy in here that explains why it's super important.

00:40:08.000 But it is funny.

00:40:09.000 What they'd have to do is pick somebody, have them become a comedian, start a podcast, get an audit.

00:40:14.000 It is difficult, right?

00:40:16.000 Whereas if you work at a media company, it's very easy to just some new guys there.

00:40:21.000 Yeah. Who's this?

00:40:22.000 Right, right, right.

00:40:23.000 Oh, you know what I mean?

00:40:24.000 Yeah, that's Mike.

00:40:24.000 Somebody just shows up.

00:40:26.000 Hey, it's Suzanne.

00:40:27.000 Suzanne, run everything by Suzanne.

00:40:29.000 Hey, how does this guy, Bob Woodward?

00:40:32.000 Right. How does he get the most important?

00:40:34.000 He just, this is his first case.

00:40:35.000 Lucky guy.

00:40:36.000 He gets Watergate.

00:40:37.000 Lucky guy.

00:40:38.000 Wait a minute.

00:40:39.000 What did he do for Navy Intelligence?

00:40:41.000 Right. Lucky guy.

00:40:44.000 That Watergate thing's so funny because...

00:40:46.000 But I've been here for 30 years, Mike.

00:40:47.000 Yeah, I haven't gotten anything.

00:40:48.000 Shut the fuck up.

00:40:49.000 Bob's taking this case.

00:40:50.000 Bob's taking down Nixon, who keeps asking questions about what happened to Kennedy.

00:40:55.000 Did you see when Bill Murray was here?

00:40:57.000 I did, yeah.

00:40:58.000 Did you see the thing that he said about Wired, the book?

00:41:01.000 Yeah. Wait, which one?

00:41:02.000 Wired is the book on John Belushi.

00:41:03.000 He said, I read the first five pages and I was like, oh my god.

00:41:07.000 They set up Nixon.

00:41:08.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:41:10.000 They framed Nixon.

00:41:10.000 That's so funny.

00:41:11.000 That's what he said.

00:41:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:12.000 He's like, if this is what they say, this is what the same guy said about John Belushi, which is 100% not true.

00:41:19.000 Right. Do you know John Belushi was a lightweight?

00:41:20.000 Right. He would drink a couple of beers and he'd be fucked up.

00:41:23.000 Right. He didn't have tolerance.

00:41:24.000 He wasn't this maniacal coach.

00:41:26.000 No. It was all lies.

00:41:28.000 They don't care at all about getting any accurate information.

00:41:32.000 That time that he died?

00:41:33.000 Yeah. It was probably the first time he ever did a speedball, according to Bill Murray.

00:41:36.000 Wow. Yeah.

00:41:37.000 And Bill Murray was one of his best friends.

00:41:39.000 Bill Murray knew.

00:41:39.000 Bill Murray was like,"I've known this guy most of my life." And then he goes,"They framed Nixon." And then I told him the whole story that Tucker Carlson had told me.

00:41:48.000 Which I was like,"What?" That it was all FBI agents and the whole thing was a complete sting.

00:41:55.000 It was a sloppy burglary.

00:41:58.000 Where they wanted to get caught, they traced it back to Nixon because Nixon was doing things they hated.

00:42:04.000 Well, this is the thing that got Nixon on.

00:42:05.000 I don't know if you know, but what they said to Nixon, Nixon was not guilty of the crime, but they told Nixon about the crime, and then he helped them cover it up.

00:42:13.000 That's how they got him.

00:42:14.000 But what is he going to do?

00:42:16.000 Of course.

00:42:17.000 He thinks this is on the legit, and you come to him with a crime.

00:42:20.000 I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ.

00:42:21.000 Well, don't fucking tell anybody, Tim.

00:42:22.000 Jesus Christ, Tim.

00:42:23.000 What did you do?

00:42:24.000 You bugged Cap City?

00:42:25.000 Yeah. They had to get rid of him.

00:42:30.000 This is what we're going to do.

00:42:31.000 We're going to throw our phones in the river.

00:42:37.000 Here's what happens now.

00:42:39.000 How do we get out of this?

00:42:40.000 Where'd you put the bugs?

00:42:41.000 Can we break in and take the bugs back?

00:42:43.000 That's so funny.

00:42:44.000 They'd be so flattered if we bug Cap City.

00:42:47.000 That's awesome.

00:42:48.000 Somebody told me last night that they hate us.

00:42:49.000 I'm like, how do you hate me?

00:42:50.000 I love you.

00:42:51.000 I used to love the old Cap City.

00:42:53.000 If you got headliners and you need them, I'll promote it.

00:42:57.000 I'll promote it on Twitter.

00:42:59.000 And same thing with Moontower.

00:43:02.000 I heard they're mad at me too because I wouldn't have them at the club.

00:43:05.000 I'm happy to help you.

00:43:06.000 I'm happy to help you.

00:43:07.000 I just don't want you to book my club.

00:43:09.000 That's all it is.

00:43:10.000 My club is sold out every night, and it's guys like you and Shane and Ari and all these...

00:43:16.000 I don't want anybody else booking it.

00:43:18.000 It doesn't mean that I don't support your cause.

00:43:21.000 Of course.

00:43:21.000 I just don't want you coming into my establishment.

00:43:23.000 That's all it is.

00:43:24.000 I want everybody to do well.

00:43:26.000 There's five comedy clubs on my street.

00:43:29.000 What you've done, I think, ultimately is good for the town.

00:43:33.000 You bring people into the town.

00:43:35.000 The problem is when people used to be in control of comedy in the town, and then all of a sudden they're...

00:43:42.000 Right. Yeah, I think a lot of people struggle with that, the idea of that, that they're losing control.

00:43:52.000 I think that seems to be the most, the angriest I've seen people online since the election that have railed against podcasts and they've railed against, they seem to...

00:44:05.000 Be angry that they no longer have a monopoly on what people can hear.

00:44:11.000 Exactly. And they still continue to lie and misrepresent people that do podcasts or people that have a different opinion say.

00:44:20.000 And that's where it gets really stupid.

00:44:22.000 They keep saying that when I had that Daryl Cooper guy on, that I'm bringing on a Nazi apologist and a Holocaust denier.

00:44:30.000 Neither of those things are true.

00:44:32.000 It's not true.

00:44:34.000 And the guy doesn't just talk about that.

00:44:37.000 By the way, his stuff about Jim Jones is fucking sensational.

00:44:42.000 You know Jim Jones was like a civil rights leader?

00:44:44.000 Yeah. Jim Jones had an interracial child.

00:44:46.000 I didn't know any of them.

00:44:47.000 Yeah, Jim Jones was like, he had an adopted black child that he would take to school and everybody would be fucking furious at him in the town.

00:44:55.000 Yeah. And he was like...

00:44:56.000 He was a legitimate Christian, like a real, I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christian.

00:45:01.000 One of the big things in America- I totally got a kooky on that.

00:45:03.000 Yeah, of course.

00:45:04.000 The meth got him.

00:45:05.000 Yes. Listen, there are a lot of people questioning World War II for not good reasons, of course.

00:45:09.000 Right. It's like people that bring up the age of consent, and you go, wait a minute.

00:45:12.000 Hey. What's going on?

00:45:14.000 What are you doing?

00:45:16.000 There are people, I think, that do launder not great reasons for questioning World War II through whatever.

00:45:24.000 No doubt.

00:45:26.000 No doubt.

00:45:27.000 There is a very interesting...

00:45:30.000 The teeth really come out.

00:45:32.000 The gnashing of teeth come out in this country when you question at all the American war machine.

00:45:39.000 Yes. And the pageantry of war and the...

00:45:46.000 You know, iconography of the state and of war and of how important it is and how just it always is and how we're always on the right side of it and we're always doing the right thing.

00:45:57.000 And in World War II, we 100% were.

00:45:59.000 But there are a lot of other times when we've made grave errors with our military.

00:46:06.000 And I feel like it's not good enough for...

00:46:13.000 You can't just point to World War II, which is, again, we were correct.

00:46:18.000 Yes. But I think there is this idea that if you...

00:46:22.000 It's not an accident there's a million movies made about World War II.

00:46:25.000 It's not an accident that there is a lot of pageantry surrounding World War II.

00:46:29.000 Well, also that the World War II movies have heroes.

00:46:32.000 Of course.

00:46:32.000 Whereas the Vietnam movies are...

00:46:33.000 That's right.

00:46:35.000 Everything's complicated and it's all chaos.

00:46:37.000 So I think that inspires the idea that a military solution is always correct and that the use of force is always the right way to do it and that coincidentally makes people lots and lots of money and their children never end up fighting those wars.

00:46:53.000 That seems to be a lot of it.

00:46:55.000 Now, that doesn't mean that there aren't people with bad motivations that are genuinely anti-Semitic or that genuinely have fascist inclinations or absolutely are.

00:47:04.000 But I think there needs to be space to criticize the mythologizing of war in general and the justification for endless wars all the time.

00:47:16.000 Yes. Like Iran.

00:47:17.000 I hope Trump does not go into Iran.

00:47:19.000 Yeah. That seems like a very bad idea.

00:47:21.000 It also seems like a very bad idea for Iran to get nuclear weapons.

00:47:24.000 That seems bad, too.

00:47:25.000 Yes, but I think there's ways to prevent that without a regime change war.

00:47:28.000 This is what we have to do.

00:47:30.000 This is what Tulsi Gabbard, I think, was very attractive about a lot of what she said during her confirmation hearing.

00:47:35.000 She goes, I understand that there are terrorists out there that are dangerous, but we got to find a way to deal with them without committing troops to stand there in an Islamic country.

00:47:45.000 We saw this movie.

00:47:47.000 It doesn't work out.

00:47:49.000 And I think we have to stop thinking that it's going to be better this time if we decapitate the head of a foreign government and we have American soldiers in an Islamic country trying to set up a provisional government.

00:48:02.000 The nightmare of that during Iraq, Paul Bremer, this weird British-looking guy that they sent to stand on that rubble with his boots and the mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier.

00:48:13.000 It brings back...

00:48:15.000 To me, it's like I get flashbacks from it.

00:48:18.000 Do you remember the guy who was the Iraqi public relations guy who was saying that they're winning the war?

00:48:24.000 Was it Ahmed Chalabi?

00:48:26.000 Well, no, that was the guy that fed us all the bullshit to get us in.

00:48:28.000 No, no, no.

00:48:29.000 It was the guy that people openly mocked.

00:48:32.000 I believe he had glasses.

00:48:33.000 And he was the guy that was always saying that Iraq is kicking ass.

00:48:37.000 Oh, interesting.

00:48:38.000 No. Yeah, Baghdad something or another they called him.

00:48:41.000 And he was saying that we were doing good?

00:48:43.000 No, no, no.

00:48:44.000 He was saying that Iraq is kicking our ass.

00:48:47.000 Yeah. Well, that's hilarious.

00:48:49.000 I don't remember that.

00:48:50.000 Baghdad something or another they called him.

00:48:52.000 By the way, does anyone know what's going on in Iraq right now?

00:48:55.000 Mostly flea markets.

00:48:56.000 If there was a gun to my head, I could not tell you what the state of Iraq was.

00:49:02.000 I know the Taliban are in Afghanistan.

00:49:04.000 What's going on in Iraq?

00:49:05.000 Listen, listen, listen.

00:49:06.000 You hear that?

00:49:07.000 Ready? That's a gay guy who threw off a roof.

00:49:10.000 Right, right.

00:49:13.000 So that's why we spent...

00:49:14.000 That's a 20-year, you know, commitment.

00:49:17.000 Or was it a very long time?

00:49:19.000 Right. So that's like...

00:49:22.000 I feel like that's the thing, that when you ever try to have a nuanced understanding of what we can and can't do, I don't think it's a great idea that Iran gets nuclear weapons.

00:49:32.000 It seems like there are ways to prevent that without a full-scale invasion.

00:49:37.000 But don't we need these?

00:49:40.000 I always look at these groups like the Houthis and stuff.

00:49:43.000 We need these people.

00:49:45.000 100%. The Houthis are a fun one because they're on the ocean and they're like pirates.

00:49:54.000 This is new.

00:49:55.000 They figured out that, like, land-based stuff's not as interesting.

00:49:58.000 They're like, they're disrupting trade.

00:49:59.000 You know how much of our trade goes through?

00:50:01.000 It's 3%.

00:50:02.000 Hey, listen.

00:50:03.000 3%. Don't minimize that.

00:50:05.000 Just like I don't want you minimizing the female astronauts.

00:50:07.000 Yeah, but we need these Houthis.

00:50:09.000 It feels like we need these groups.

00:50:11.000 We had ISIS.

00:50:12.000 We had then ISIL.

00:50:13.000 Now, you know, we had the people in Syria.

00:50:16.000 I forget their names, something.

00:50:18.000 But we need these little groups.

00:50:20.000 And this is what we do.

00:50:21.000 We just choose, because all of these groups are not even, they're just people hanging out, and then we give them weapons and get them going.

00:50:31.000 They're just guys in a bar.

00:50:33.000 A lot of these groups are guys in a bar in Syria.

00:50:35.000 Some of them don't even have a bar.

00:50:36.000 They have a hole in the ground.

00:50:37.000 They're sitting a hole in the ground, and we show up, and we start arming them and giving them stuff.

00:50:43.000 And it's like that Bill Hicks joke, where it's like, pick up the gun.

00:50:47.000 For him special, it's like...

00:50:48.000 Are the Houthis an existential threat to the United States?

00:50:52.000 That feels crazy.

00:50:54.000 The craziest thing was...

00:50:55.000 Just feels insane.

00:50:56.000 Trump showing the video of them getting bombed.

00:51:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:01.000 It's so wild.

00:51:02.000 We could kill all...

00:51:03.000 This is the problem.

00:51:04.000 We could get rid of all of these threats in five minutes.

00:51:07.000 Yeah, but we don't seem to want to.

00:51:10.000 It's not good for business.

00:51:11.000 You can't come to a market every week.

00:51:14.000 You'll burn it out.

00:51:15.000 No, the Houthis are good.

00:51:16.000 If you're doing stand-up, you've got to go once a year.

00:51:18.000 You've got to go once a year, once every 18 months.

00:51:20.000 And I like the Houthis because they feel it's like a new, but they're not sticking.

00:51:25.000 No one's believing it.

00:51:26.000 So now they're back to Hezbollah.

00:51:28.000 Hezbollah wears the fatigues.

00:51:31.000 If you get up Hezbollah, they're scary looking.

00:51:33.000 The Houthis are not that scary.

00:51:35.000 The Houthis look like a bunch of dudes in like a bazaar, like you said, like in a flea market.

00:51:40.000 They're on a boat, they're holding up guns, no one cares.

00:51:42.000 Hezbollah looks genuinely like, okay, let's not fuck with these people.

00:51:46.000 Well, it's like Shane's bit about the Iraqis or the Afghanis.

00:51:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:51.000 Going through the fucking, the workouts.

00:51:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:54.000 Like, we think they're like an elite army.

00:51:56.000 Oh, God, yeah.

00:51:57.000 They couldn't do jumping jacks.

00:51:58.000 You're not changing anything.

00:52:00.000 But that's the whole thing.

00:52:01.000 It's this weird global chessboard of like, you know, as someone said to me once, there's like a dial, you turn it up, you're like, more war, less war.

00:52:10.000 More war, less war.

00:52:12.000 I'm gonna see right now if smelling salts are good for allergies.

00:52:15.000 Have you gotten any of the allergies out here?

00:52:17.000 No. I don't get it.

00:52:18.000 My first year of legitimately getting them.

00:52:20.000 Cedar fever?

00:52:25.000 I think you gotta do cocaine.

00:52:29.000 Allergy medicine, too.

00:52:30.000 Yeah, that's no fun.

00:52:32.000 Yeah, maybe Zyrtac or something.

00:52:33.000 That's no fun.

00:52:35.000 What is it, the cedar?

00:52:37.000 I don't know what it is.

00:52:38.000 I think people say cedar fever.

00:52:39.000 But my nose has been running.

00:52:40.000 Did you hear the story at all?

00:52:42.000 Mark Hopper actually might have helped the military capture, so I'm just saying.

00:52:45.000 What? So they were on a USO tour in 2003?

00:52:48.000 And they got asked to come in to do like a private show and he sat down and said,"Sir, I have a plan to catch Saddam Hussein," the musician recalled telling a Navy Admiral on board the aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf.

00:53:01.000 According to Hapas, Hussein had been sending video messages to his followers from an unknown location at the time.

00:53:07.000 The musician felt that the military could use drones to their advantage and uncover his location by pulling data from the video messages.

00:53:15.000 Sir, what about having drones fly all over the region in carpeting patterns, broadcasting time codes above the level of human hearing, but at the level that a video recording would catch it?

00:53:25.000 Hope it's suggested to the Admiral.

00:53:27.000 Then the next time he releases one of his videos, you could listen to it, pull the ultrasonic data, and triangulate the drones you have flying all over.

00:53:35.000 Holy shit!

00:53:36.000 This is the guy from Blink-182?

00:53:38.000 I think his dad was in the military.

00:53:40.000 Someone was in something.

00:53:42.000 He knew, yeah.

00:53:43.000 Okay, this brings me back to that fucking strange times in Laurel Canyon shit.

00:53:47.000 Yeah! Four months later, Sodom was located and captured in Iraq, so you're welcome, everyone.

00:53:52.000 What a great book!

00:53:54.000 Well, not only the Tom O'Neil book, but then this Dave McGowan book, Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon.

00:53:59.000 I lived up there when I was living in LA.

00:54:00.000 I lived up there.

00:54:01.000 And I'm telling you, that is the creepiest vibe of any area that I've ever been to in my life.

00:54:06.000 It's a weird vibe.

00:54:07.000 They have that fucking military installation at Lookout Mountain.

00:54:10.000 Jared Leto owns that.

00:54:11.000 He lives there now.

00:54:12.000 Doesn't he have a whole cult?

00:54:14.000 Okay. He's a good guy.

00:54:15.000 I'm sure he is.

00:54:16.000 I'm not saying it's bad to have a cult.

00:54:18.000 They tried to investigate his cult, and it turns out it's not really.

00:54:22.000 It's just a bunch of people having fun.

00:54:23.000 Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

00:54:25.000 And there's no requirements.

00:54:25.000 No one asks you to fuck them.

00:54:27.000 Nothing happens.

00:54:28.000 No, it's a voluntary fuck cult.

00:54:31.000 It's not even a voluntary fuck cult.

00:54:33.000 It's just they get together and dance or something.

00:54:35.000 I don't know what they do.

00:54:36.000 I lived there for three years.

00:54:37.000 I didn't get one text.

00:54:39.000 I had not one.

00:54:41.000 I used to drive by and point at it and go, look, it's the thing.

00:54:44.000 What do they do?

00:54:46.000 What does Jared Littles...

00:54:47.000 It's like a summer camp.

00:54:48.000 They call it Echelon.

00:54:49.000 Yeah. It's a summer camp.

00:54:50.000 We used to go watch the band play Close Up.

00:54:52.000 Oh, what the fuck's the problem with that, Tim?

00:54:54.000 How about Tim Dillon Fest?

00:54:55.000 I have no problem with that.

00:54:57.000 It's basically Skank Fest.

00:54:58.000 Just a bunch of people eating shellfish in Long Island being racist?

00:55:05.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:55:06.000 I have no issue with that at all.

00:55:08.000 What a fun time, though, for us.

00:55:09.000 Yeah. Because everything's just...

00:55:11.000 I mean, there's just so much stuff to talk about.

00:55:13.000 Everything's nuts.

00:55:13.000 Nothing makes sense.

00:55:14.000 You know, I was on the All In podcast the other day, and they were talking about...

00:55:18.000 These chips, these NVIDIA chips and how what's interesting is people are setting up because we have these export controls that don't allow us to send certain chips to China because they're able to like manipulate them and then become like the world's largest semiconductor producer.

00:55:34.000 But now all these fun fake companies are starting in like Bhutan.

00:55:38.000 Or Cambodia.

00:55:40.000 And they're buying the chips.

00:55:42.000 Or Singapore.

00:55:43.000 And then they all get back to China.

00:55:45.000 Well, one of the guys who worked at whatever the preeminent AI system in China was saying, whistleblowers, was saying that they have 50,000 of these fucking banned chips.

00:55:58.000 That's so wild.

00:55:59.000 Whoopsies. And so they were talking about, like, is it better to send them the chips?

00:56:03.000 Or is it better to, if you don't send them the chips, then it spurs their innovation and they make the chips.

00:56:08.000 Well, either way, they're gonna get the chips.

00:56:10.000 Yeah, they're getting the chips.

00:56:11.000 They're both innovating and stealing at the same time.

00:56:14.000 Can there be anything done to stop their rise?

00:56:17.000 Nah. Not at this point.

00:56:18.000 Doesn't feel like it, right?

00:56:19.000 They're so much more technologically advanced in so many different areas now.

00:56:23.000 Yeah. Like, the drones that they have are so superior to the commercial drones that we have, because drones over here, you have to have a pilot's license to drive the really spicy ones.

00:56:34.000 Do you think some of those drones over in New Jersey were theirs?

00:56:37.000 Could be.

00:56:38.000 I think they were ours.

00:56:39.000 I honestly do.

00:56:40.000 Otherwise, I think they would have shot them down if they could.

00:56:43.000 I don't know if they could.

00:56:44.000 And maybe they wouldn't, because then it would alarm people.

00:56:48.000 Because then you would show that that is a legitimate threat.

00:56:51.000 We're fighting for satellite supremacy in the sky, too.

00:56:54.000 That's crazy.

00:56:56.000 The internet, the Starlink.

00:56:58.000 I mean, essentially, Elon's launching Starlinks all over the fucking world.

00:57:02.000 Do you worry at all about the tech people being Democrats up until five minutes ago?

00:57:08.000 Yeah, you should, but I think...

00:57:10.000 A lot of those people have shifted sides.

00:57:12.000 They've shifted sides because they understand that, well, you know, I had Marc Andreessen in here.

00:57:17.000 And Marc Andreessen was explaining, he said the most terrifying meetings we ever had was when we were part of an AI startup and the government came in and said, we're not going to let you do this.

00:57:25.000 Not only are we not going to let you do this, we're not going to let anybody do this.

00:57:28.000 We're going to have a small amount of these things we're going to completely control.

00:57:32.000 He was like, what the fuck?

00:57:34.000 Like, you guys are really openly saying this, that you're going to inhibit innovation at the highest.

00:57:41.000 Some shit that you probably don't even understand, but you want to have absolute control over it.

00:57:45.000 I think the worry is that people don't trust the government, nor should they, but I don't know if they trust these tech guys either.

00:57:50.000 You shouldn't.

00:57:51.000 Yeah. You shouldn't.

00:57:52.000 Look what's going on with OpenAI.

00:57:53.000 That's the whole thing.

00:57:54.000 I think that people are wary of the tech people because these were the same people that were censoring and kicking people off the internet when the people in the White House were blue.

00:58:05.000 Right. And now that the people in the White House are red, they are...

00:58:08.000 It swung back the other way.

00:58:10.000 Exactly. So I think people are a little wary of that.

00:58:12.000 Yeah. They don't know where that goes.

00:58:14.000 It's just power.

00:58:15.000 It's just...

00:58:17.000 I mean, like Bernie Sanders is right in that you should be scared of oligarchs, and oligarchs shouldn't be running our government.

00:58:24.000 He's right in that regard.

00:58:26.000 And when people get into positions of just unchecked power, so let's say if someone had control of some tech company, let's say it's an AI company, and that AI company literally...

00:58:39.000 Creates the unstoppable AI that helps empower the entire country and this one guy's in control and he's worth three trillion dollars now and he decides to lobby and change a bunch of laws and influence politicians and his company starts donating to certain politicians.

00:58:55.000 You could change the fabric of society with enough money and enough power and enough influence, especially if you could completely control what the narrative is in terms of like when people Google things and they search things.

00:59:08.000 When they talk about things, you can completely control what they're allowed to talk about and how that narrative gets countered instantly with facts and bullshit.

00:59:19.000 Well, it's being done everywhere, right?

00:59:21.000 So it's being done at the highest levels.

00:59:24.000 And I think people are uncomfortable with just losing, even though a lot of them realize that we didn't have a ton of control, they feel like...

00:59:38.000 I think when you head into the world of tech where people just don't even know where this goes, where does it go?

00:59:45.000 Does it go to transhumanism?

00:59:46.000 Does it go to, like, AI replacing everybody?

00:59:48.000 And then at what point, what do you do with those people that AI replaced?

00:59:52.000 Do you give them all cryptocurrency that's linked to their biological whatever?

00:59:56.000 I've heard all these ideas, right?

00:59:58.000 Like, how do you deal with...

01:00:01.000 Driverless cars, where the entire road is automated.

01:00:04.000 How do you deal with that?

01:00:05.000 I think that fills people with an anxiety where they go,"What is the plan?" And a lot of these tech cars are like,"Well, we've got to get off the planet." And I think people start going like,"Wait a minute." You know?

01:00:16.000 That's Weinstein.

01:00:17.000 Eric Weinstein thinks we'll get off the planet.

01:00:18.000 Well, that's a lot of people.

01:00:19.000 That's a lot of people saying that.

01:00:20.000 I'm staying.

01:00:21.000 I don't know what you're saying.

01:00:22.000 There's a lot of people.

01:00:22.000 There's no air on Mars.

01:00:24.000 Like, let's not go there.

01:00:24.000 Yeah. Well, for sure.

01:00:26.000 For sure.

01:00:26.000 Do you think Trump and Musk will have a falling out eventually?

01:00:31.000 I don't know.

01:00:32.000 It's a good question.

01:00:33.000 The media keeps trying to push that they are.

01:00:35.000 It feels like they're just big personalities in that there's an inevitability when you have two guys that are incredibly, you know, alpha.

01:00:45.000 Perhaps. But Elon is very smart.

01:00:48.000 And you see he's always very deferential.

01:00:51.000 Yeah. And he's always very respectful.

01:00:53.000 Mr. President.

01:00:54.000 It's always that.

01:00:55.000 Well, of course.

01:00:55.000 Call him sir.

01:00:56.000 That's how I treat him.

01:00:58.000 I always call him sir.

01:01:00.000 It's Donald Trump.

01:01:01.000 Yeah, I get it.

01:01:02.000 You're fired.

01:01:03.000 I get it.

01:01:03.000 But he's also the president of the United States.

01:01:05.000 I call him sir.

01:01:06.000 But I call everybody sir.

01:01:07.000 Yeah. I call everybody sir.

01:01:08.000 Yeah. It's like the byproduct of me living in Texas now.

01:01:11.000 Right. Sure.

01:01:12.000 Yeah. But I don't know if they're going to...

01:01:15.000 You don't get pulled over anymore here.

01:01:16.000 If I do, it's not that big of a deal.

01:01:18.000 If you get pulled over here, a cop gives you money.

01:01:24.000 They go, Mr. Rogan, here's a check.

01:01:25.000 I mean, there's no way.

01:01:27.000 There's no law that you cannot break here.

01:01:29.000 I'm guaranteeing you.

01:01:30.000 I don't think that's correct.

01:01:31.000 I think you could do a lot.

01:01:33.000 I think they would cover up a murder.

01:01:36.000 That's sweet.

01:01:37.000 If you murdered three people, I think the awesome PD would go, whatever, man.

01:01:42.000 He's doing a lot.

01:01:43.000 They'd bring that mayor, that guy, and he'd go, what?

01:01:46.000 They'd go, yeah, the suspect's Joe Rogan.

01:01:48.000 He was standing over the bodies.

01:01:49.000 They'd go, are you out of your fucking mind?

01:01:51.000 Drive him home right now.

01:01:53.000 Drive that man home.

01:01:54.000 If I was in waist deep, in Rainy Street, drowning a partygoer.

01:01:59.000 They don't care.

01:02:02.000 Bro, they still don't want to admit that there's a serial killer.

01:02:04.000 You're the tourism board.

01:02:05.000 Yeah, no, something's up.

01:02:08.000 There's a serial killer.

01:02:09.000 Something's going on.

01:02:09.000 I believe there's a serial killer.

01:02:11.000 What are they doing?

01:02:12.000 They're luring people to that bridge and then...

01:02:14.000 Yeah, it's not hard.

01:02:15.000 People like to go to the bridge.

01:02:16.000 You just gotta look out for the bushes.

01:02:18.000 It's so weird.

01:02:18.000 I guess it's such a high to kill someone.

01:02:20.000 To me, I'm like, what do you get out of it?

01:02:22.000 But I guess the people that are doing it like it.

01:02:23.000 They're broken.

01:02:25.000 There's broken people.

01:02:26.000 Some broken people do meth and some broken people drown guys who like to party.

01:02:31.000 Do you ever talk to like, I'm sure you have, this is a stupid question, but like the high level law enforcement guys that have just met these monsters and stuff?

01:02:37.000 Oh yeah.

01:02:38.000 And is there, do they believe that it's like, is there any part of them that believes someone's just born?

01:02:45.000 Yes. Interesting.

01:02:47.000 Yeah. Yeah.

01:02:48.000 And it's generally, you have psychotic parents.

01:02:51.000 And so whether it's nature or nurture is hard to separate because you're probably abused.

01:02:56.000 And generally, at an early age, they show a willingness to torture house pets and stuff like that.

01:03:04.000 Animals. Yeah.

01:03:05.000 Yeah, they'll maybe start off with a frog they catch and stick up.

01:03:08.000 Like a firecracker in its mouth and stuff like that.

01:03:12.000 And then they eventually work their way up to humans.

01:03:14.000 Now it seems so much harder to do it because of these phones, surveillance.

01:03:18.000 It is, but it's...

01:03:20.000 You can still do it.

01:03:21.000 Not in Austin.

01:03:22.000 You can get away with drowning folks.

01:03:23.000 You can drown people.

01:03:25.000 Why don't you think they'll admit it?

01:03:26.000 They don't want people getting spooked?

01:03:28.000 That's a good question.

01:03:29.000 That's a good question.

01:03:30.000 Maybe... Maybe I'm wrong.

01:03:32.000 I mean, one of the biggest things ever in Austin were those crazy yogurt shop murders.

01:03:36.000 HBO just came out with a documentary about.

01:03:38.000 When was that?

01:03:39.000 It was many years ago.

01:03:40.000 This crazy yogurt shop murder thing.

01:03:42.000 HBO just did a doc.

01:03:43.000 Happened in Austin.

01:03:44.000 It was like a famous...

01:03:47.000 And it's completely unsolved, except they put some people in jail for it, but then later let one of them out.

01:03:52.000 It was just one of those things where nobody was sure about what happened.

01:03:55.000 So they were murdering people that went to the yogurt place?

01:03:57.000 It was 1991, and just South by Southwest, they just did a huge...

01:04:02.000 Oh, it was one homicide.

01:04:04.000 A quadruple homicide which took place at, I can't believe it's yogurt shop in Austin.

01:04:10.000 That could have been me in 1991.

01:04:13.000 Wow. 34 years ago.

01:04:16.000 34 years ago.

01:04:17.000 It's an underbelly.

01:04:19.000 14 girls were murdered in Austin.

01:04:21.000 Wow. And they don't know who did it?

01:04:27.000 It's an unsolved murder.

01:04:29.000 I checked the boyfriends.

01:04:30.000 And there's many different theories about it.

01:04:34.000 Wow. That's crazy.

01:04:37.000 Four men were arrested and charged a capital murder in 99, but two of their cases were overturned.

01:04:41.000 The other two never went to trial.

01:04:43.000 Wow. Interesting.

01:04:46.000 So there are these things that happen.

01:04:48.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:48.000 Well, that's what they say, that if you just randomly shoot someone and kill them, like, if you're a real, like, rando, like, did you ever see that movie Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer?

01:04:57.000 No. It was about a guy named Henry Lee Lucas.

01:05:00.000 Oh, wow.

01:05:00.000 Yeah, and Henry Lee Lucas was attributed, they attributed, like, 62 murders to him.

01:05:05.000 The problem is, I think one of the things cops do is they go, uh, did you kill this guy?

01:05:12.000 Yeah, I killed him, too.

01:05:13.000 Where'd you bury him?

01:05:14.000 Where was he buried?

01:05:15.000 Oh, that's where I buried him.

01:05:17.000 That kind of thing.

01:05:18.000 Now you got a case solved.

01:05:20.000 That was the accusation about Henry because he was definitely a murderer and a grifter and a drifter and he was traveling around the country stealing things.

01:05:28.000 But then they made a movie about him and in the movie he's way more sinister and calculated.

01:05:35.000 But he would just randomly kill people.

01:05:37.000 So they'll take credit for things they didn't do.

01:05:39.000 Exactly. To just beef up the body count.

01:05:41.000 Exactly. Because that's what they want.

01:05:43.000 They want attention.

01:05:44.000 They're already in jail.

01:05:45.000 That's so wild.

01:05:46.000 Yeah. Yeah.

01:05:47.000 That's a—when you have shitty DAs and shitty prosecutors and shitty cops, they'll do stuff like that.

01:05:54.000 Do you think that there are people that are—you know, National Park seemed to be like a hotbed of people disappearing.

01:06:03.000 Yeah, Appalachian Trail people, yeah.

01:06:05.000 Yeah, do you think that's people getting you, or is that a lot of it, like, I got lost, I got eaten?

01:06:09.000 You get lost.

01:06:10.000 Yeah. You get eaten.

01:06:11.000 There's a guy who has this whole series, 4-1— Is it 911 missing or 411 missing people in national parks?

01:06:20.000 Listen, man, you're just meat out there and you get eaten.

01:06:23.000 And by the way, you don't find dead anything out there.

01:06:27.000 You don't find dead mountain lions.

01:06:28.000 Guess what?

01:06:29.000 They die all the time.

01:06:30.000 I've never seen a dead mountain lion when I was hunting.

01:06:32.000 Because they get eaten.

01:06:33.000 They get eaten.

01:06:34.000 Not only do you get eaten, your bones get eaten.

01:06:37.000 Everything gets eaten.

01:06:38.000 So it's not uncommon to disappear and there's no trace.

01:06:42.000 No trace.

01:06:42.000 Yeah. Yeah, super common.

01:06:44.000 So if you're in a high traffic area, like I've...

01:06:50.000 Hunting, I've found elk bones where a hunter killed the elk and then took all the meat off the bones and then left the bones there.

01:06:59.000 That's what you do when you pack out meat.

01:07:01.000 And I've found those animals.

01:07:03.000 I actually even found one animal that I shot a long time ago.

01:07:06.000 I shot like four years ago.

01:07:07.000 And you found it?

01:07:08.000 Yeah, we were in the same location.

01:07:10.000 It was the same bones.

01:07:11.000 There wasn't all the bones there left.

01:07:13.000 Some of them have been dragged away.

01:07:14.000 Some of them have probably been eaten by rodents.

01:07:17.000 They eat the bones.

01:07:19.000 Slowly but surely.

01:07:20.000 And if you're a human, you're made out of nothing.

01:07:22.000 You're so easy to eat.

01:07:24.000 Right. You know, like our bones are less dense.

01:07:27.000 Our meat is soft and chewy.

01:07:30.000 Yeah. You know, like we get devoured.

01:07:32.000 A bear would eat your whole body.

01:07:34.000 There would be almost nothing left.

01:07:36.000 And rodents would eat what's left.

01:07:37.000 Yeah. Vultures.

01:07:38.000 You gotta be careful.

01:07:39.000 In those places.

01:07:40.000 You can't be careful.

01:07:41.000 If you don't have a GPS navigation system that has a lot of batteries, if you don't have a compass and know how to use it, if you don't have a map, it's so easy to get lost in the woods.

01:07:52.000 It's so easy.

01:07:53.000 Yeah. They're all around you, and you can go in one direction and circle around.

01:07:58.000 You don't even realize you're circling.

01:07:59.000 Right. And then three days later, you're back to where you started.

01:08:01.000 You're like, fucking no!

01:08:03.000 Yeah, it's terrible.

01:08:04.000 You've been eating tree bark for three days.

01:08:06.000 It's insane.

01:08:07.000 And you're thinking, any step, I'm going to see the highway.

01:08:09.000 What a horrible thing.

01:08:10.000 People die like that all the time.

01:08:12.000 All the time.

01:08:13.000 All the time.

01:08:14.000 Just go to a hotel.

01:08:16.000 It's very difficult to navigate yourself.

01:08:17.000 Just go to a resort.

01:08:19.000 If you don't know the woods, you're not used to being in the woods, and you're not used to having landmarks that you follow, and know how to use a compass, know how to use a GPS.

01:08:27.000 Some people are good at it.

01:08:29.000 And even they get eaten.

01:08:30.000 Yeah, they get eaten, too.

01:08:31.000 Well, you break your ankle.

01:08:32.000 Right. How about you break your ankle out there, and you can't hike out.

01:08:35.000 It's not possible.

01:08:36.000 Right. What do you do?

01:08:37.000 Yeah. You fucking die.

01:08:38.000 That's what you do.

01:08:39.000 Gotta be very careful.

01:08:40.000 And you hear something at night.

01:08:42.000 You're sleeping under a tree, and you hear something at night.

01:08:44.000 Right. Right.

01:08:46.000 You've got a bear sniffing you.

01:08:48.000 It's crazy.

01:08:48.000 You can't run away.

01:08:49.000 And you don't have a weapon.

01:08:50.000 You can't do anything.

01:08:50.000 It just eats you alive.

01:08:52.000 And those woods are so dense in the Pacific Northwest and stuff like that.

01:08:54.000 I mean, everywhere.

01:08:56.000 Especially the Pacific Northwest.

01:08:58.000 Especially there, it's like crazy.

01:08:59.000 Yeah, you don't find nothing out there.

01:09:01.000 But that's why the Bigfoot rumor persists up there.

01:09:04.000 It's because the woods are like a box of Q-tips.

01:09:07.000 Right. You know, like you can't see shit out there.

01:09:09.000 You don't know what the hell is going on.

01:09:10.000 You see like a little shadow moving in between trees and you've decided it's a...

01:09:14.000 Bigfoot. Right.

01:09:15.000 Yeah. But it's just like...

01:09:16.000 A bear.

01:09:17.000 It could be, right.

01:09:17.000 Yeah, it's most likely a bear.

01:09:19.000 Especially bears walking on two legs.

01:09:21.000 Northern California is weird like that, too.

01:09:23.000 I mean, that's part of the Pacific Northwest, probably.

01:09:24.000 Yeah, you get killed up there.

01:09:26.000 Yeah. People die up there all the time.

01:09:27.000 Did you ever see that documentary, Sasquatch?

01:09:30.000 No. It's a documentary that was on...

01:09:32.000 Was it on Hulu, Jamie?

01:09:34.000 We had the director in it, the guy who created it.

01:09:37.000 It was awesome.

01:09:38.000 And what it's really about is about marijuana growers murdered a guy and then blamed it on Bigfoot.

01:09:44.000 Wow. So these marijuana growers in Humboldt, up that area.

01:09:50.000 So they all were hippies, right?

01:09:52.000 And then they started growing weed and then cartel people moved in and gangs moved in.

01:09:59.000 And they started robbing these people.

01:10:00.000 So these people became heavily armed.

01:10:04.000 Wars with like the growers and cartel people and so there was these people that were trying to steal from them They murdered these people and then they blamed it on Bigfoot.

01:10:13.000 They like ran over him with a fucking backhoe and crushed his body.

01:10:17.000 These hippies are really violent.

01:10:18.000 Oh, they get violent once it's money.

01:10:19.000 These hippies are junkies and you know like this whole hippie thing I think is kind of a lie.

01:10:24.000 Well, they all become people with money if you're growing weed.

01:10:28.000 You become a multi-millionaire who's carrying a sidearm.

01:10:30.000 Okay? And you're going to protect your money.

01:10:33.000 And then these people are trying to kill you to take your shit.

01:10:35.000 So then you're like fucking Jason whatever his name is in Ozark.

01:10:39.000 Right. Jason Bateman.

01:10:41.000 Jason Bateman.

01:10:42.000 Right. And now you're a drug dealer.

01:10:44.000 That's so funny.

01:10:45.000 It's so funny the weird like marijuana where it's like it's federally still illegal, but like states it's legal in certain states.

01:10:52.000 Yeah. And there's that gray area where there's just like you have half of that business is like in the shadows and half of it's and people make lots of money.

01:11:00.000 It's strange.

01:11:01.000 Well, not only that, because California made it legal, they also made it a misdemeanor to grow it illegally, right?

01:11:08.000 So what happens is these cartels started growing it on national forest land.

01:11:13.000 And so then game wardens started finding it.

01:11:16.000 There's a guy named John Norris who's been on the podcast before.

01:11:18.000 He wrote a book called Hidden War.

01:11:20.000 Yeah. And it was all about he was a game warden and he became a part of a tactical crew that was busting cartel members who were heavily armed growing marijuana in national forests.

01:11:31.000 That's crazy.

01:11:33.000 Yeah. Because most of the illegal weed that's been sold all over the country was being grown there.

01:11:39.000 So in the places where it is illegal, they grow it where it's legal, and if they get busted, it's just a misdemeanor.

01:11:44.000 So it doesn't matter.

01:11:45.000 And they're not going to deport anybody because California is a sanctuary state.

01:11:48.000 Right. So it doesn't matter how many acres and acres of weed.

01:11:51.000 Exactly. Exactly.

01:11:52.000 Yeah. And so because it's federally illegal, it's just like when there was the prohibition that propped up organized crime.

01:11:59.000 Same thing.

01:12:00.000 You've just propped up illegal businesses to sell something that has a demand that normal...

01:12:06.000 Do you think weed's going to be federally legal?

01:12:09.000 If I had to guess, not during this administration.

01:12:11.000 Yeah. No, I don't think.

01:12:12.000 It feels like a lot of the experimental harm reduction policies in places like Portland are going the other way.

01:12:18.000 Well, they went a little crazy in a place that was already crazy.

01:12:22.000 Yeah, they had a woman driving around shooting people up called the Stabbing Wagon, and she was like, if somebody needed a fix, she'd pull up and give them clean needles and stuff.

01:12:32.000 Is it really called the Stabbing Wagon?

01:12:33.000 It was called the Stabbing Wagon.

01:12:34.000 For real?

01:12:35.000 Yeah, because you're stabbing.

01:12:37.000 And if you're just tweeting...

01:12:38.000 No, this is like a way to help.

01:12:41.000 Oh, Portland.

01:12:41.000 This was a way to help people.

01:12:42.000 Oh, Portland.

01:12:43.000 And people would just be chilling and like, hey, I need a couple of clean needles.

01:12:46.000 So this woman would just show up.

01:12:47.000 There'd be like a bunch of junkies hanging out.

01:12:49.000 She'd show up.

01:12:50.000 She'd hop out of the stabbing wagon with a bunch of clean needles, hand them out.

01:12:53.000 People are like, fuck yeah.

01:12:54.000 Good to see you.

01:12:55.000 Oh, my God.

01:12:56.000 And she's like, fuck yeah.

01:12:57.000 I hope you're all doing good.

01:12:58.000 And they're like, well, you know how it is.

01:12:59.000 Oh, my God.

01:13:00.000 And the problem was that didn't work.

01:13:06.000 Not only did it not work, it encouraged people to move there to shoot up.

01:13:09.000 Actually, that's true.

01:13:10.000 So people started moving there because they're like, this is actually a pretty good deal.

01:13:14.000 They don't care if you live on the street, and there's this bitch in a van that shows up with clean needles.

01:13:20.000 And they give you money.

01:13:21.000 Yeah, and whatever you need.

01:13:23.000 They give you free money and food.

01:13:24.000 Yeah. Yeah.

01:13:25.000 Here it is, the stabbing wagon.

01:13:26.000 Stabbing wagon.

01:13:27.000 Harm reduction.

01:13:29.000 No, I mean, it's real.

01:13:29.000 She only has 4,000 followers?

01:13:31.000 That's fucked.

01:13:31.000 Hit that follow, Jamie.

01:13:32.000 Hit a little follow on her.

01:13:34.000 There you go.

01:13:35.000 There's a stabbing wagon.

01:13:36.000 Well, at least she's healthy.

01:13:38.000 It's the stabbing wagon.

01:13:39.000 Okay. Makes sense.

01:13:40.000 So at the end of the day, it's like that seems like a good way to combat drug use is to have a van of drugs.

01:13:47.000 That van got a $1.5 million grant.

01:13:50.000 Did you see that?

01:13:50.000 Did you see that in the previous article?

01:13:52.000 Of course.

01:13:53.000 $1.5 million grant.

01:13:54.000 Well, because they're trying to help people.

01:13:56.000 Get high.

01:13:57.000 They're trying to help people get high in a safe way.

01:13:59.000 Bro, where she parked that van?

01:14:01.000 That's what I need to know.

01:14:02.000 I mean, it's a good question.

01:14:03.000 She probably lived in the burbs and then came in and then did what she needed to do.

01:14:06.000 She doesn't look like a burbs lady.

01:14:07.000 Well, that's a good point.

01:14:09.000 You know those weird Pacific Northwest suburbs?

01:14:13.000 A lot of them aren't my burbs.

01:14:16.000 The ones that I like.

01:14:17.000 Very odd.

01:14:18.000 Those people are...

01:14:19.000 It's different.

01:14:20.000 They're like people that live outside of Chernobyl.

01:14:21.000 Yeah. They're forever changed.

01:14:23.000 It's different.

01:14:24.000 There's not a lot of sun up there.

01:14:25.000 Something's going on.

01:14:26.000 Bad DNA damage.

01:14:27.000 What was funny is there was a big article where they were like, yeah, this is actually...

01:14:31.000 What's crazy is you read about those cities, like Portland and San Francisco.

01:14:35.000 They'll do the craziest thing ever.

01:14:37.000 And then two years later, they'll start going like, yeah, this just is not having the results that we thought it would have.

01:14:44.000 This is...

01:14:45.000 Drug use is up.

01:14:46.000 Crime is up.

01:14:48.000 Violence is up.

01:14:49.000 So Santa Monica now is doing a curfew because there's been violent crimes at night.

01:14:54.000 No way.

01:14:54.000 They're thinking about doing a curfew in Santa Monica.

01:14:57.000 So again, because...

01:14:58.000 Santa Monica.

01:14:58.000 Yes, Santa Monica is thinking about doing a curfew because there's like violent crimes.

01:15:03.000 So instead of just going like, okay, we got to throw these people in jail.

01:15:05.000 Like, it's nine o'clock.

01:15:07.000 Go home.

01:15:11.000 This is California.

01:15:12.000 This is the biggest economy in our country.

01:15:16.000 And they're thinking of having occurred because they're all out of ideas on how to stop people from being victims of violent crime.

01:15:25.000 Bro, I got friends who can't sell their houses there.

01:15:26.000 No, it's bad.

01:15:28.000 I'm glad I sold my house when it did.

01:15:30.000 Nobody wants to buy houses there anymore.

01:15:31.000 Nobody wants to buy houses there.

01:15:33.000 They're like, we're getting out.

01:15:33.000 Everybody who's not out is at least thinking about it.

01:15:36.000 Uber rich people are...

01:15:39.000 A lot of them are just keeping their houses because they can't get the money they want.

01:15:43.000 So, like, people that are, like, in Bel Air, those crazy things, right?

01:15:47.000 Beverly Hills, Bel Air, these behemoths.

01:15:50.000 They're just kind of like, just leave it.

01:15:52.000 You gotta hope that, like, there's some crazy celebrity rapper guy like Kendrick Lamar decides to buy a mansion.

01:15:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:15:59.000 Like, if you're selling a $70 million house, you have, like, five people that will buy it.

01:16:03.000 You also gotta hope that they elect Rick Caruso and he...

01:16:07.000 Goes around California in a tank with a bunch of guys in bazookas, and it's like the craziest thing you've ever seen.

01:16:19.000 That's all you can hope for.

01:16:21.000 You need like a Rudy Giuliani type character.

01:16:23.000 Yeah, I mean, you need Sergeant Slaughter from the old WWF.

01:16:28.000 I mean...

01:16:37.000 You need a fully fascist.

01:16:39.000 You need a guy to run as a fascist.

01:16:41.000 When they go, are you a Republican?

01:16:42.000 He goes, no, no, no, no, no.

01:16:44.000 I am a fascist?

01:16:45.000 This is a military dictatorship.

01:16:48.000 You need four years of a military dictatorship in California to just turn it around.

01:16:52.000 To just start steering it.

01:16:54.000 The other way.

01:16:55.000 Well, it's moving red.

01:16:56.000 That's one thing you saw by the electoral map from 2024.

01:17:00.000 California is moving red.

01:17:01.000 Yeah, it's going red.

01:17:02.000 Yeah, slowly but surely.

01:17:03.000 There's only so many times you can wake up in a $4 million house with a gun in your mouth before you start thinking differently about it,

01:17:18.000 you know?

01:17:19.000 Did you see they were trying to pass laws?

01:17:21.000 Where they're deciding how much violence is enough violence if someone breaks in your house, like when you shoot them too many times.

01:17:27.000 Right. In the middle of being terrified.

01:17:30.000 Absolutely. They will always take the side of the people that are trying to destroy civilization.

01:17:37.000 Always. Do you think that when you don your tinfoil hat and Velcro the chin strap...

01:17:44.000 Do you think that this is a grand plan to destroy civilization?

01:17:47.000 I think what you have – I don't know if it's a grand plan, but I think what you have is you have two things that are happening simultaneously.

01:17:56.000 You have the people – the last people that seem to want to be in politics are people that believe in like nothing.

01:18:08.000 They're like empty suit.

01:18:10.000 Gavin Newsom types who just really don't seem – they just – whatever room they're in.

01:18:15.000 Wait a minute.

01:18:16.000 Have you seen his podcast?

01:18:17.000 Yeah. Well, that proves my point.

01:18:19.000 That proves my point now, right?

01:18:20.000 He's a believer.

01:18:21.000 So now he's like, oh, things are going right.

01:18:23.000 I'll go to the right.

01:18:23.000 Things are going to the left.

01:18:24.000 I'll go to the left.

01:18:25.000 So you have like these people that just don't – they will not – like Sanders or Trump, whatever you think about them, they're not going to like quote stand on business.

01:18:33.000 They're not going to tell people here's where I'm at.

01:18:35.000 This is the way I feel.

01:18:37.000 They're just empty vessels.

01:18:38.000 And then at the same time you have that happening, you have the craziest people in the world that somehow have gotten hold of a ton of money and a ton of influence on social media.

01:18:53.000 And those empty suit politicians are like scared of these lunatics that believe the craziest things you've ever heard.

01:19:04.000 So these politicians are just like taking edicts from these crazy people online who tell them that we need the stabbing wagon and we need all this stuff.

01:19:14.000 I don't know how that happened, that somebody should look at that, how that happened and study it.

01:19:22.000 And I think it's a lot of these politicians are deeply corrupt and I think they're terribly afraid of whatever corruption they're involved with coming to the surface.

01:19:30.000 And it could be personal in their personal life.

01:19:32.000 It could be with the state.

01:19:34.000 I think, you know, the mismanagement of money, of resources, all of that stuff.

01:19:39.000 So if I was a really corrupt politician, I would just do the craziest left-wing shit so that I could never be accused of anything.

01:19:47.000 Good move.

01:19:48.000 And I would just let them do whatever the hell they want.

01:19:50.000 I go, yeah, well, fucking whatever.

01:19:52.000 We got a new law that says they got to draw blood in your house from you before you can defend yourself.

01:19:58.000 We need a rapper.

01:19:59.000 Yeah. Rappers are the last people in this country that can kind of get away with almost anything.

01:20:04.000 Well, rappers are honest.

01:20:06.000 A lot of them, even though they might lie about how much money they have and stuff, there's a certain honesty to that genre of music.

01:20:13.000 Clearly, you can go too far, like P. Diddy.

01:20:15.000 You can go too far.

01:20:17.000 But he wasn't super honest.

01:20:18.000 He seemed to be concealing a bit.

01:20:20.000 He seemed to be.

01:20:21.000 Yeah. Do you think he was working for somebody?

01:20:24.000 Or working with somebody?

01:20:25.000 Or do you think it was all his own personal black?

01:20:27.000 If the CIA was like, we can't really, we don't really know anything about like this world of like, you know, that's not what we do.

01:20:34.000 We're like a bunch of Harvard guys and we have these fucking weirdos that we know about how to get in with like our people, but we need someone who was like a black guy to do it.

01:20:45.000 It could have been P. Diddy.

01:20:46.000 But didn't all the accusations come out after he was involved in a lawsuit with Ciroc?

01:20:52.000 That's what people said, yeah.

01:20:53.000 Yeah, that's where it gets interesting, right?

01:20:56.000 Yeah, I mean, it's going to be...

01:20:58.000 You've got to be very careful when you start fucking around with people's billions.

01:21:02.000 Big, powerful billionaires are probably their own governments.

01:21:08.000 Yeah. So, I mean, when you run afoul of them, I think there's many ways at which they can get you.

01:21:15.000 Also, they feel like they pay so much money for taxes.

01:21:19.000 A lot of these intelligence agencies are working for those people.

01:21:24.000 They're not, I think, on their own.

01:21:28.000 There's big money to be made.

01:21:31.000 And there's a lot of people that own these companies and have been rich for a very long time and who aren't on reality TV.

01:21:38.000 And you don't really know who they are.

01:21:41.000 Some of them are on the Forbes list.

01:21:42.000 Some of them aren't.

01:21:43.000 Some of them are just incredibly wealthy and they've made their money in ways that you could barely understand.

01:21:48.000 And those are people that, you know, are the reason historically that the CIA is going into Latin America and overthrowing government so that United Fruit can, you know, have a monopoly, right?

01:22:03.000 It's like this is so they're doing things at the behest of these ultra wealthy.

01:22:09.000 Families that control huge industries.

01:22:12.000 Sure, and they always have.

01:22:14.000 I mean, that's back to Smedley Butler's War is a Racket.

01:22:17.000 Thousand percent.

01:22:18.000 Yeah, and that was 1933 he wrote that or something.

01:22:20.000 And that's the way the whole thing seems to be organized.

01:22:24.000 Yeah, and always has been.

01:22:26.000 We're just learning it now.

01:22:27.000 You know, that's all the difference.

01:22:29.000 But it is falling apart now because some of their kids are doing stand-up comedy.

01:22:32.000 No, literally.

01:22:33.000 I mean, there are people, they're young in New York and they're just like, their parents are some of the wealthiest people in the world.

01:22:39.000 And these kids are like doing stand-up, which is a terrible sign for the Empire.

01:22:44.000 That's not a great sign for the Empire, is that like a guy that would have taken over his dad's business is like doing dick jokes.

01:22:52.000 Well, he probably has a trust fund.

01:22:54.000 So he probably has a safety blanket and sees we're having fun.

01:22:58.000 It's like, I want to have fun.

01:22:59.000 I want to be like my dad.

01:23:00.000 Yeah. Have a fucking heart attack when I'm 49. That's right.

01:23:03.000 But we need them doing that.

01:23:05.000 Some of them.

01:23:06.000 Having heart attacks?

01:23:07.000 Yes. Everyone can't be a clown.

01:23:11.000 There is something deeply unhealthy about the Illuminati doing stand-up.

01:23:17.000 I don't love that idea.

01:23:19.000 Well, unless they're using ChatGPT, how good could their material be?

01:23:22.000 It's not ideal.

01:23:24.000 It can't be.

01:23:25.000 It's a lot of crowd work.

01:23:26.000 And even if they do use ChatGPT, ChatGPT has not shown any ability to really craft a good joke yet.

01:23:31.000 It's just funny to meet some of these people and then you talk to them and they'll casually drop that they're like, you know, their parents are like billionaires.

01:23:40.000 And you're like, that's awesome, man.

01:23:42.000 And they're just doing bar shows.

01:23:43.000 It's kind of interesting.

01:23:44.000 And they're nice people, but just to pull out and look at it from a sociological standpoint, it says something about people's idea of the future that these people just, like, want to be famous now.

01:23:56.000 How many of them are there?

01:23:57.000 There's some more than you'd think.

01:23:59.000 Really? Is it a New York thing?

01:24:01.000 Yeah, it's a lot of rich people live there, and I'm talking about mega-rich, like, not like, hey, my dad's a successful whatever.

01:24:08.000 I'm talking about, like, whoa, billions.

01:24:11.000 Big money.

01:24:12.000 Yeah. Where you go, interesting.

01:24:14.000 And then the kids don't have any pressure to do anything.

01:24:17.000 The kids kind of float around and they're doing...

01:24:20.000 It's just very funny.

01:24:21.000 It's something that makes me laugh.

01:24:21.000 It's just like a billionaire kid on stage looking at someone in the audience going, what do you do for a living?

01:24:30.000 A lot of crowd work, huh?

01:24:32.000 Yeah, what do you do for a living?

01:24:33.000 Maybe this is the first time they've met people that aren't billionaires.

01:24:36.000 That could also be a thing.

01:24:40.000 This might be a way to just socialize Illuminati kids.

01:24:43.000 They've met their housekeepers before.

01:24:45.000 Maybe they ask them, like, what should I talk about on stage?

01:24:47.000 Well, yeah.

01:24:47.000 I mean, they have...

01:24:48.000 And what's funny is, like, they have parties in their big houses and bring their other comic friends who are bums.

01:24:53.000 You know, young comics.

01:24:54.000 I mean, we're all bums.

01:24:55.000 So then, like, the parents are like, hello.

01:24:58.000 And they bring in, like, a bum and they go, this is my buddy.

01:25:01.000 And then, you know...

01:25:02.000 He's stealing from the buffet.

01:25:03.000 He's just, like, staring at them going, whoa, this place rocks.

01:25:07.000 It's like a sitcom.

01:25:08.000 Yeah. And they're like, these are my friends.

01:25:10.000 And I think the parents are kind of like, oh, well, isn't that nice?

01:25:15.000 Maybe it's a phase.

01:25:16.000 I think the parents look at it like they're going through a phase.

01:25:19.000 That's interesting that there's more than one of them doing stand-up.

01:25:22.000 It says something about...

01:25:25.000 That group of people that used to run everything, they have a dearth of purpose in their life.

01:25:31.000 They're kind of aimless and they float around.

01:25:34.000 I don't mean specifically rich comedian kids.

01:25:37.000 I just mean like that ruling class, what are they doing now?

01:25:40.000 They don't really have a purpose.

01:25:42.000 They kind of float around.

01:25:43.000 They try this new age spirituality bullshit.

01:25:46.000 They travel all over the place.

01:25:48.000 You look at any of these rich kids' Instagrams, all they're doing is traveling.

01:25:51.000 It's all the same shit.

01:25:53.000 We're going to Anguilla.

01:25:54.000 Go here, go there.

01:25:55.000 There's no purpose.

01:25:57.000 You know, I think they don't feel like America's has a defining mission.

01:26:03.000 Like if you look at families like the Kennedys, the Bushes, whatever you think about those families, they served in the military.

01:26:08.000 They believe that there was some type of arc of history that they were a part of.

01:26:12.000 I feel like a lot of rich people now just kind of don't believe in much of anything.

01:26:16.000 And it's just kind of like.

01:26:18.000 I don't know.

01:26:19.000 They're bored.

01:26:20.000 They start a fake company.

01:26:22.000 Well, if your whole focus is just making more money, how much time can you spend believing in things?

01:26:28.000 Right. That's going to take away from your ability to earn.

01:26:31.000 Yeah. I think that's one of the big problems now.

01:26:34.000 And that's why I think you saw a lot of people get crazy on the left and they started instituting all these weird virtue.

01:26:42.000 You know, these purity tests and stuff like that is because I think they feel a lack of meaning.

01:26:46.000 A lot of them wanted to be self-flagellation.

01:26:51.000 They wanted the tenets of religion.

01:26:52.000 They wanted meaning.

01:26:53.000 They just don't have it.

01:26:55.000 So I think that's what happens with a lot of them.

01:26:58.000 And their kids are nice people.

01:26:59.000 They're not bad people.

01:27:00.000 It's just funny to see like...

01:27:02.000 Because most people who do comedy, a lot of them aren't poor.

01:27:04.000 A lot of them are like middle class people because they have like the ability to go and at least think it's an option.

01:27:10.000 But it is funny when someone goes,"I'm doing comedy and I'm the scion of great wealth." Scion's a great word.

01:27:19.000 It's an interesting thing to me, just because I've always been fascinated with rich people and, like, these people that run the world.

01:27:25.000 And it's so interesting that some of their kids are like, I want to, I'm going to do stand-up comedy now.

01:27:30.000 When was the first time you met a really rich person?

01:27:32.000 How old were you?

01:27:34.000 I met a couple of, like, mafia people that my dad used to play music, so they owned some bars, but they weren't super rich.

01:27:40.000 I would observe them because my uncle was the director of operations for all these restaurant groups in New York City, this restaurant group in New York City.

01:27:46.000 That had these big high-end steakhouses.

01:27:49.000 And I would go.

01:27:49.000 And one of them was on 63rd and Park.

01:27:51.000 And I would sit in this steakhouse with my parents.

01:27:54.000 I was probably 8 or 9 years old.

01:27:55.000 And you'd look around.

01:27:57.000 And I said to my dad once, I was like, maybe 10 or 11. And this is a weird thing to say to a 10 or 11-year-old.

01:28:01.000 I was like, who are these people?

01:28:02.000 And my dad goes, these people run the world.

01:28:04.000 I was just very fascinated by all these like...

01:28:07.000 People that were so different because in Long Island where I came from, everyone was loud and fighting all the time.

01:28:15.000 My best friend Josh, who lived two houses down from me, his mother Eileen would scream at his father in the front yard and he was like a conductor for the railroad and she would just go, why didn't you do that?

01:28:26.000 And then you would go to Manhattan and a lot of these restaurants that my uncle had, you'd see these kind of quiet people and they were all very well dressed and they were in suits.

01:28:36.000 In Manhattan, they live in these stone townhouses like Epstein did.

01:28:39.000 They live in these little mini stone townhouses.

01:28:43.000 And I was just fascinated.

01:28:43.000 I was like, it's very interesting.

01:28:45.000 These people are interesting.

01:28:47.000 What are they up to?

01:28:48.000 Type of thing.

01:28:49.000 And then you start reading about them and it is just super interesting.

01:28:54.000 Because they're a very big reason why society looks the way it does.

01:28:57.000 100%. And that to me was an interesting thing.

01:29:01.000 Why are certain people in certain positions?

01:29:05.000 What role do the politicians play and what role do these really quiet rich people play that are kind of waspy and could be Jewish, could be anything.

01:29:14.000 They're just kind of like, you know, they're quiet.

01:29:15.000 They don't really want you to know too much about them.

01:29:17.000 They really value their privacy.

01:29:19.000 So it's funny with the kids doing stand-up comedy to me.

01:29:21.000 And even these rich people that go on these reality shows, it's interesting that it used to be sacrilegious, the idea that you would show people how much money you had or that you would talk about yourself.

01:29:33.000 And a lot of that started to change.

01:29:35.000 A lot of these rich people just want to be famous.

01:29:37.000 It almost feels like it's the last thing left.

01:29:39.000 Well, most young kids today, when they ask them, what do you want to be?

01:29:44.000 A giant percentage of them say famous.

01:29:46.000 They want to be an influencer.

01:29:48.000 They want to be a TikToker, a YouTuber.

01:29:51.000 They want to be famous because why would you want a job like your parents have when you could just open sneakers?

01:29:57.000 Yeah. Open, so I'm going to do an unboxing show.

01:30:00.000 That's a good point.

01:30:00.000 Yeah, like why would you want a regular job?

01:30:03.000 Yeah. Regular jobs are soul-sucking, especially you work.

01:30:06.000 Look, it's one thing if you have a career.

01:30:08.000 Sure. One thing you start your own business.

01:30:09.000 It's something exciting.

01:30:10.000 There's another thing to be working for somebody.

01:30:12.000 Working for somebody is horrible for the most part.

01:30:14.000 It is, but I think people can derive enjoyment from things outside of their jobs.

01:30:18.000 Sure, but that leaves you one third of your day that's been eaten up.

01:30:22.000 Yes. You have one third of your day for sleep, one third of your day that's been eaten up by this bullshit job.

01:30:26.000 Yeah. And then the remaining hours between commutes and whatever the fuck you eat, all has to be wrapped up in--It is.

01:30:33.000 It's been eaten up.

01:30:33.000 It is...

01:30:34.000 I get it.

01:30:35.000 I totally get it.

01:30:35.000 If you're a young kid, you go on YouTube, you go, I want to be David Dobrik.

01:30:38.000 I don't want to be...

01:30:39.000 Who's that?

01:30:39.000 David Dobrik?

01:30:40.000 He's like a big guy on YouTube.

01:30:41.000 Oh, okay.

01:30:42.000 He does...

01:30:43.000 Like Mr. Beast?

01:30:44.000 He's like a Mr. Beast type.

01:30:45.000 He's not as big.

01:30:46.000 Mr. Beast is like a planet.

01:30:48.000 Yeah. But Dobrik's big, you know, or whoever.

01:30:52.000 Like, they look at these young...

01:30:53.000 And they entertain, like, younger people.

01:30:55.000 He does fun videos about, like, hey, whatever.

01:30:57.000 I don't know.

01:30:58.000 You know, it's always the same.

01:30:59.000 It's like, what if I fill the pool with M&Ms?

01:31:02.000 Whatever. You know, it's like that type of thing.

01:31:04.000 Right. It's not like the Ukraine, deep dive or whatever.

01:31:06.000 It's a fun, like, goofy thing.

01:31:09.000 And kids look at that and go, well, that guy's making a lot of money.

01:31:11.000 He has a great car.

01:31:12.000 He's got a hot girlfriend.

01:31:13.000 He lives in a big mansion.

01:31:15.000 I want to be that guy.

01:31:16.000 Of course.

01:31:16.000 But I think they missed the idea that that guy works really, really hard.

01:31:21.000 Right. Like, that's the thing that I think people don't understand about these social media people.

01:31:26.000 They do have a crazy constitution in terms of how much they post, how hard they work.

01:31:35.000 Now, you might say, okay, the stuff they do is ridiculous or silly or not valuable, and I might agree on a lot of those things.

01:31:41.000 But they are always putting it out.

01:31:44.000 Yeah, they're showing up.

01:31:45.000 They're always showing up.

01:31:46.000 Yeah, if you want to compete in any market, anything, no matter what you do, there's a certain amount of work you have to put in, the idea that it's easy.

01:31:54.000 Like, there's got to be some reason why most of them don't rise to the top.

01:31:58.000 Right. What is it?

01:32:00.000 How do you feel about...

01:32:01.000 Can you teach people to work hard?

01:32:02.000 I'm sure you can.

01:32:03.000 What do you think?

01:32:05.000 Because I've seen so many people that are super talented, but for whatever reason, they're not that muscle of working hard or the dedication to it.

01:32:16.000 I think generally it has to be established early in your life.

01:32:20.000 And if you don't establish that early in your life, it's not...

01:32:24.000 A thing that you gravitate towards.

01:32:26.000 You don't recognize that, oh, hard work equals results.

01:32:30.000 If you get lucky, you do sports.

01:32:32.000 Because sports make you physically uncomfortable.

01:32:34.000 They test your will.

01:32:36.000 If you're a marathon runner and you've got to get up every day and do those fucking miles, that will test your will.

01:32:42.000 If you're doing track and field or football or anything you're doing where it's a lot of work.

01:32:47.000 And then you realize, I've gotten better because of all this work, and if I work harder, maybe I could be the starting quarterback.

01:32:54.000 If I work harder, maybe...

01:32:55.000 And that's a real factor for young kids, I think.

01:32:59.000 Getting them into any sort of difficult physical endeavor.

01:33:04.000 Whatever it is.

01:33:05.000 Competitive physical endeavors make you understand.

01:33:08.000 That's why I thought that show Dance Moms was good.

01:33:10.000 That fat woman who screamed at those kids and demanded greatness and would make them cry.

01:33:15.000 I thought that was good.

01:33:17.000 You never saw Dance Moms?

01:33:18.000 It's a great show.

01:33:19.000 This woman, Abby Lee Miller, she screamed at these young kids and one of them became JoJo Siwa, so it's not like there was any damage done.

01:33:26.000 And, you know, I think it's good.

01:33:29.000 I like to see greatness demanded of children.

01:33:32.000 This lady, look at her hair.

01:33:33.000 Watch this one.

01:33:34.000 Let me hear her.

01:33:35.000 Push the envelope.

01:33:36.000 You will jump higher.

01:33:37.000 You will turn faster.

01:33:39.000 That's right.

01:33:39.000 You will also act.

01:33:41.000 You will sing.

01:33:43.000 You're not just preparing for a dance competition every weekend.

01:33:46.000 We're preparing for you to become stars in Los Angeles.

01:33:51.000 How does that bitch know how to be a star in Los Angeles?

01:33:54.000 Look at her.

01:33:55.000 She can't get a seat at Roscoe's.

01:33:57.000 By the way...

01:33:58.000 I guarantee you she can get a seat at Roscoe's.

01:34:01.000 Really? That's the one place she can get...

01:34:03.000 If you saw her, you wouldn't sit her in Roscoe's?

01:34:07.000 The first thing, I would kick someone out for her in Roscoe's.

01:34:10.000 But yeah, it is interesting that a lot of these kids now, they just look at...

01:34:15.000 You know, the followers and...

01:34:17.000 Sure. How do you feel about...

01:34:19.000 You're a parent.

01:34:20.000 Do you...

01:34:21.000 When the Jonathan Haidt book comes out and he goes, we should get rid of phones for kids until they're 16. Does that make sense or not really?

01:34:28.000 No, because then you alienate your kids.

01:34:30.000 It's a new world that they have to learn how to navigate.

01:34:33.000 And if they don't learn how to navigate until they're 18, they're at a huge disadvantage.

01:34:37.000 They've got to understand that it's just people talking.

01:34:40.000 But there's a lot of pressure.

01:34:42.000 Like for young girls, it's the worst time because they're comparing...

01:34:49.000 Right. Right.

01:35:07.000 Right. Thoughts.

01:35:14.000 I kind of got off social media for the most part real recently over the last few days.

01:35:19.000 I'm barely on it.

01:35:20.000 Right. And I feel better.

01:35:22.000 Right. I feel way more normal.

01:35:25.000 Right. Way more, like, not constantly, like, checking to see what's going on, what's going on, what's going on, what's going on, what's going on, what's happening in the world.

01:35:31.000 Right. Instead...

01:35:32.000 Just like, I'll find the bad things.

01:35:35.000 They'll come to me, for sure.

01:35:36.000 You'll get it.

01:35:36.000 They'll figure it out.

01:35:37.000 So I check in the morning, like, oh, make sure there's no war going on.

01:35:41.000 And then I go about my day, the whole day.

01:35:42.000 And then maybe I check again in the afternoon, real quick.

01:35:45.000 I'm not spending, like, massive amounts of time anymore.

01:35:48.000 No. And because of that, I feel better.

01:35:50.000 And I'm like, okay.

01:35:50.000 People that give up their phones always talk about that, and they hear birds and all this bullshit, you know?

01:35:55.000 Well, you feel better.

01:35:56.000 You feel like there's not this low hum of wondering what's going on in the world all the time.

01:36:01.000 Wondering who's saying this and why are they doing that?

01:36:04.000 What's the new thing?

01:36:05.000 What's this?

01:36:06.000 What's that?

01:36:07.000 It is good to detach.

01:36:08.000 It is interesting.

01:36:09.000 Imagine if you just didn't even engage, like didn't really look, weren't in it at all.

01:36:14.000 It fascinates me.

01:36:16.000 Way better for you.

01:36:17.000 So you think it would be miserable to just be happy somewhere?

01:36:21.000 Woody Harrelson doesn't even have a phone.

01:36:22.000 Really? Doesn't have a phone, doesn't have an email.

01:36:24.000 No. No, when he showed up at the club, he just sort of showed up.

01:36:28.000 They said, Woody Harrelson's here.

01:36:29.000 I'm like, okay, let him in.

01:36:31.000 Wanted to come and hang out.

01:36:32.000 Knew I was there.

01:36:33.000 Wow. Find you and hang out with you.

01:36:34.000 Yeah, he's like, he's smart.

01:36:37.000 And he doesn't, Bill Murray's the same way.

01:36:39.000 Doesn't connect to any, he said I had to get a phone because my kids text.

01:36:42.000 So I text my kids and that's it.

01:36:45.000 Smart. Yeah.

01:36:46.000 That's so smart.

01:36:47.000 You don't want to be connected.

01:36:49.000 You don't want to be connected.

01:36:50.000 But you kind of have to be if you're a young comic.

01:36:52.000 You have to be connected because you have to build followers to get booked now because these clubs are like, we've got to book people with followers.

01:36:59.000 You're not necessarily looking at who's working hard or who's good.

01:37:02.000 And I feel for a lot of younger people because they have to.

01:37:06.000 Yeah. You know, they have to have a social media presence early on, maybe even before they figured out what they want to say.

01:37:12.000 Maybe, you know, before they figured out how to say it the right way.

01:37:15.000 For sure.

01:37:16.000 They have to have this social media presence.

01:37:17.000 And I think people become, and it's a dopamine hit, right, to do things.

01:37:21.000 I get it.

01:37:22.000 Like, you get followers, you get rewarded.

01:37:24.000 It's a whole system.

01:37:26.000 But it also could take over your life.

01:37:28.000 It 100% could take over your life.

01:37:29.000 And you and I, well, me more so than you, grew up without it, and then it came on later in life.

01:37:35.000 How old were you when you first got online?

01:37:36.000 Dude, I had a BlackBerry.

01:37:37.000 I was working in my early 20s with a BlackBerry, and that's very different than an iPhone.

01:37:42.000 Sure, that's emails.

01:37:43.000 It's emails.

01:37:43.000 So we were getting emails from our manager at work going, will you fucking losers do something?

01:37:50.000 Things like that.

01:37:51.000 Because we couldn't sell any.

01:37:52.000 But I remember seeing people with blackberries in the early days of tech going, man, that seems really addictive.

01:37:59.000 Yeah, because you could take a shitty photo and send it to someone.

01:38:03.000 You could email a photo.

01:38:05.000 And the photos were terrible quality.

01:38:07.000 But just the idea of at your job, just sending someone an email photo was hilarious.

01:38:13.000 Like being out somewhere and taking a photo and emailing it to somebody going, fuck you, I'm not at work.

01:38:17.000 That was fun.

01:38:18.000 The thing was though that they couldn't escape The emails.

01:38:21.000 The emails, they were constantly checking.

01:38:23.000 And I was like, oh, well, this is like super addictive.

01:38:26.000 Like these guys that I work with on FearFact, they were always on their BlackBerrys.

01:38:29.000 There was a New York City realtor.

01:38:30.000 This lady, Dolly Lenz, was like the top realtor in New York City.

01:38:33.000 She famously, she did a BlackBerry commercial.

01:38:35.000 She famously had like eight BlackBerrys because she would just get all these contracts and stuff.

01:38:39.000 She would like hand them out to her assistants and stuff.

01:38:40.000 And they would respond to over, she would get over 700 emails a day at the height of her thing.

01:38:45.000 She was selling all this real estate.

01:38:47.000 So that was the first time I didn't have a smart phone.

01:38:51.000 Oh, that's nice.

01:38:53.000 I had like a flip phone.

01:38:55.000 People had Razer phones.

01:38:56.000 I didn't even have that.

01:38:57.000 I had like a Sprint LG or some bullshit.

01:38:59.000 And then I got Blackberries.

01:39:01.000 And I think my first iPhone was like in my 20s, like mid-20s.

01:39:04.000 Yeah, that's good.

01:39:05.000 It wasn't...

01:39:06.000 I wasn't like...

01:39:08.000 Connected like that.

01:39:09.000 Yeah, these kids are connected from the time they're six years old.

01:39:11.000 And I mean, my godson, he's like four years old and he has an iPad.

01:39:14.000 They just give him an iPad.

01:39:16.000 Yeah, they just sit in front of the pad.

01:39:17.000 If they go to a restaurant, they set it up in front of the kids.

01:39:19.000 They set it up and he just sits there and he does, I don't know what he's watching, gossip maybe.

01:39:24.000 I don't know what he's doing.

01:39:25.000 No one knows either.

01:39:28.000 I don't know what he's found, you know?

01:39:30.000 That's the other thing.

01:39:31.000 You hope, like, best case, he's playing some game, but...

01:39:33.000 Well, for boys, they immediately start jerking off.

01:39:36.000 Interesting. The moment they could find porn sites.

01:39:38.000 Right. They tell their friends.

01:39:39.000 Well, that's the other thing.

01:39:39.000 Like, I feel like that's also damaged people's...

01:39:42.000 No doubt.

01:39:44.000 Like, that damaged people's ability to, like...

01:39:46.000 No doubt.

01:39:46.000 Go out and meet a woman.

01:39:48.000 Oh, 100%.

01:39:49.000 And that's why they're not meeting women.

01:39:50.000 Like the number of incels today is off the charts.

01:39:53.000 The number of men that don't have sex at all is some crazy, it's like 50%.

01:39:56.000 And the porn is not even regular porn anymore.

01:39:58.000 A lot of it is like hyper-violent, sadistic, crazy porn.

01:40:02.000 Really? That's what they say.

01:40:03.000 Tell me what you're searching for.

01:40:05.000 People whose heads are going through glass tables.

01:40:07.000 No, but that's what like, when you have these articles that are written about this, they say it's not only that they're watching porn, it's the type of porn.

01:40:14.000 It's not like regular porn.

01:40:15.000 Oh, God.

01:40:16.000 It's like crazy shit.

01:40:18.000 And it warps their fucking brain.

01:40:20.000 I heard the dumbest argument on Twitter the other day.

01:40:22.000 Someone was saying that they should create CGI child porn to protect real children from child porn.

01:40:28.000 You should probably search that person's search history.

01:40:31.000 I was like, this is not a good argument.

01:40:34.000 That's an interesting...

01:40:36.000 Argument? You should have AI child porn?

01:40:38.000 Well, I think that argument is, like, they've kind of shown...

01:40:42.000 That's the sex doll argument, right?

01:40:44.000 Didn't they have, like, that argument for, like...

01:40:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:40:46.000 I feel like it's part of the same type of...

01:40:48.000 It's the same type of thinking.

01:40:50.000 Yeah. I think, generally, that argument is created by people who aren't pedophiles.

01:40:54.000 Because they're trying to figure out, well, maybe this is a solution.

01:40:56.000 Well, you're not thinking...

01:40:57.000 And they're also like, I'll make some money with this kid sex doll company.

01:41:00.000 What a weird way to make a fortune.

01:41:02.000 What an odd way to make a fortune.

01:41:04.000 I made a little bit of money.

01:41:05.000 What'd you do?

01:41:06.000 Eh, don't worry.

01:41:08.000 I made the perfect 11-year-old boy butthole.

01:41:10.000 Eh, don't worry about it.

01:41:11.000 What'd you do?

01:41:12.000 Eh, kid sex dolls.

01:41:13.000 Anyway, have you been to the Four Seasons and can't come?

01:41:17.000 Jesus Christ.

01:41:18.000 It's crazy.

01:41:19.000 Well, we're getting to a point where the world is really scary, but also equally unbelievable and absurd.

01:41:28.000 So it's funny, but it's also insane.

01:41:30.000 And I think people are like, we don't know what's real anymore.

01:41:33.000 These AI videos come out, and you don't know what's real and what's not.

01:41:39.000 The deepfakes are getting better.

01:41:40.000 That seems to be one of the biggest problems that no one talks about.

01:41:44.000 It's like, reality seems to be splintering.

01:41:47.000 100%. Yeah.

01:41:48.000 Yeah, reality's splintering, and then AI is about to take over our lives, and we're openly cheering it.

01:41:54.000 Right. And the world will never be the same again once it does.

01:41:57.000 And we're welcoming it.

01:41:59.000 Ironically, I think comedians seem to be somewhat in the safer group of people.

01:42:05.000 In what way?

01:42:05.000 Oh, as far as our jobs being taken away?

01:42:07.000 Yeah, in the sense that perspective seems like maybe one of the harder things for AI to grasp at this moment.

01:42:13.000 Well, it's also live performance is the last human...

01:42:19.000 Right. You know, where you could go and see something.

01:42:22.000 You go see a guy actually play a guitar.

01:42:25.000 You know, that's so much different.

01:42:27.000 And that's a real human experience.

01:42:30.000 Live sporting events.

01:42:31.000 You know, like real things.

01:42:33.000 Things that are real.

01:42:34.000 You know, that's going to be the hardest to be replaced by AI.

01:42:39.000 Yeah. Because, you know, you could replace us on podcasts.

01:42:42.000 You essentially could take my perspectives that I've shared over the past 2,000 plus episodes and run it through a large language model and use AI and have me have a podcast with basically anybody.

01:42:54.000 It's such a crazy library you have.

01:42:56.000 It's like, I wonder what you do with it.

01:42:59.000 That's a good question.

01:43:00.000 It's interesting.

01:43:01.000 It's a great question.

01:43:02.000 Sell it to China.

01:43:04.000 What if after Spotify you go to China?

01:43:08.000 That's a great idea.

01:43:10.000 It would be actually a great idea if you just sit down and go, nothing's changing about the podcast.

01:43:14.000 It's still going to be free.

01:43:15.000 It's just going to be in Mandarin.

01:43:16.000 It's owned by the Chinese government.

01:43:18.000 But it's the same podcast it's always been.

01:43:20.000 Don't worry about it.

01:43:21.000 It's the same show it's always been.

01:43:21.000 Hey, you guys know me.

01:43:22.000 I won't change.

01:43:23.000 Yeah. Your first guest is Jack Ma.

01:43:26.000 Tell me what happened with Alibaba.

01:43:29.000 Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.

01:43:31.000 It's a place I'd like to go.

01:43:32.000 I've never been to China.

01:43:32.000 I'd like to go.

01:43:33.000 Obvious cuts.

01:43:34.000 Yeah. I would do it that way.

01:43:35.000 Oh my God.

01:43:35.000 Obvious cuts.

01:43:36.000 It would be cut.

01:43:36.000 In the middle of someone talking.

01:43:37.000 Just an ad.

01:43:38.000 Just cuts.

01:43:38.000 Just an ad.

01:43:39.000 We just cut.

01:43:40.000 You go, it's the same podcast it's always been.

01:43:42.000 It's now 37 minutes.

01:43:44.000 Because China's taken out all the stuff they don't want.

01:43:47.000 The beginning of it is in China.

01:43:48.000 I'd love to go to China just to access websites and go, what can you really say?

01:43:51.000 Right. That would be super fascinating to be in China going like, what are you allowed?

01:43:57.000 What is blocked?

01:43:58.000 Do they use VPNs in China successfully?

01:44:00.000 Is that possible?

01:44:01.000 Probably, right?

01:44:02.000 They have to.

01:44:02.000 Maybe not.

01:44:03.000 I don't know.

01:44:04.000 North Korea seems to block everything.

01:44:06.000 Like, certain countries can do a lot.

01:44:07.000 Yeah, they have their own internet, right?

01:44:09.000 Like, you can only get on their internet.

01:44:11.000 I'm not sure, but that seems to make sense.

01:44:13.000 That's according to people that have been there.

01:44:16.000 Yeah, they have their own internet.

01:44:18.000 Like, can you use a VPN in China to access the internet of the world?

01:44:24.000 Let's search that.

01:44:25.000 Yeah, that'd be interesting.

01:44:26.000 I need to know.

01:44:26.000 Because so many people, I believe, are very limited with what they can access.

01:44:32.000 Many, many, many people in the world are very limited.

01:44:36.000 Well, look at the UK.

01:44:36.000 They're just arresting people for Facebook posts.

01:44:39.000 That's one of the crazier things in modern life, is that people are getting arrested over social media.

01:44:48.000 And not really bad stuff.

01:44:50.000 It's saying things that someone finds objectionable.

01:44:53.000 We've got to stop these immigrants.

01:44:53.000 Yeah, that kind of stuff.

01:44:55.000 Yes, some VPNs work in China, but their effectiveness varies due to the country's strict internet censorship known as the Great Firewall.

01:45:01.000 Chinese government actively blocks many VPN services and only a few reliable ones consistently bypass restrictions.

01:45:08.000 VPNs like ExpressVPN, NordVPN, Surfshark are often cited as effective, but they require a specific configuration, e.g., occupancy.

01:45:17.000 obfuscated servers or protocols like open VPN to evade detection.

01:45:21.000 Performance can be inconsistent with slowdowns or temporary blocks being heightened censorship during heightened censorship periods such as political events.

01:45:30.000 China occasionally cracks down on VPN uses, targeting both the providers and individual users, though enforcement against foreigners is typically lenient, focusing on warnings rather than severe penalties.

01:45:43.000 Using a VPN is technically illegal for accessing blocked content, but millions

01:45:48.000 Boy, that's a risky move.

01:45:53.000 I think they're banning this stuff in the UK because I don't think they want people to persist in this idea that they have any Ability to challenge this prevailing narrative that any critique of immigration is an inherently racist

01:46:23.000 thing. And I think the people that are sponsoring this kind of an odious thing.

01:46:29.000 And it's because what they're doing is they're basically immiserating these people.

01:46:35.000 They're making the quality of their life much worse.

01:46:37.000 They're losing ground.

01:46:39.000 And if they speak up about it, they're called...

01:46:43.000 You know, horrible names.

01:46:45.000 And arrested.

01:46:48.000 So it's crazy.

01:46:49.000 And they don't understand why it's happening.

01:46:53.000 They're not completely...

01:46:55.000 They're very confused about why, you know, a lot of these countries didn't take any Syrian refugees.

01:47:03.000 But Europe did.

01:47:06.000 And Scandinavia did.

01:47:08.000 The Netherlands did.

01:47:09.000 And they're confused about that.

01:47:11.000 And they're asking questions and going, why is that the case?

01:47:14.000 And they're confused about why, when any disruption happens, and it's clearly the result of bringing in large numbers of people who are not familiar with the laws of the country,

01:47:32.000 the culture of the country.

01:47:34.000 When anything happens and they bring it up, they're again called a racist or, you know, an extremist or they're arrested.

01:47:42.000 So it's good.

01:47:43.000 And then who's doing it, right?

01:47:44.000 So you have the people like the people.

01:47:46.000 Clearly that are in the government and these incredibly wealthy business interests that want people to work for a lot less money and they want to destroy people's social bonds because I think they really do want people to eventually just accept this kind of totalitarian surveillance state.

01:48:04.000 Yes, give up.

01:48:04.000 And the way to get them there is by breaking the spirit of these countries.

01:48:11.000 By destroying any social bonds that people have.

01:48:14.000 And destroying any economic power.

01:48:16.000 And destroying their belief in the democratic process.

01:48:19.000 And if they can do that and they can break people, they can get them to do anything they want.

01:48:23.000 Do you think they're doing this in preparation for AI?

01:48:25.000 I think they're doing it in preparation for not only technological advancements.

01:48:29.000 I think they're doing it in preparation for world wars.

01:48:35.000 I think they are doing it in preparation for a lot of things.

01:48:38.000 I think they'll conscript a lot of these people into the military.

01:48:41.000 I believe that.

01:48:42.000 I believe they'll conscript a lot of these people into the military.

01:48:45.000 I think they're looking at populations.

01:48:48.000 I think they're looking at people not having enough children.

01:48:51.000 I think they're saying, who's going to fight these wars?

01:48:54.000 Who's going to do these really shitty jobs?

01:48:56.000 And we're going to go build houses in bunkers and all of this stuff.

01:49:01.000 We're going to...

01:49:02.000 Fly private and we're going to have our kids go to completely separate schools and we're going to have our own water aquifers and have a compound.

01:49:10.000 But why do you need all these low-wage people in your country that are illegal and don't have any power?

01:49:15.000 Has anyone asked that question?

01:49:17.000 Seems very obvious.

01:49:18.000 They're going to conscript a lot of them into the military and a lot of them are going to do shitty, horrible jobs and they're going to use them as cannon fodder in wars that enrich lots of people.

01:49:27.000 That would be my guess.

01:49:31.000 Jesus Christ.

01:49:35.000 Yeah. I might be wrong, but...

01:49:38.000 And if AI does become the governing factor of the world, which it probably will, it doesn't really make sense that you let humans, with all their corruption and emotions, govern things, when you can let superintelligence...

01:49:53.000 Yeah, but who's making that intelligence?

01:49:55.000 That becomes the problem.

01:49:55.000 Exactly. But once you've already gotten people...

01:49:58.000 Locked into compliance.

01:50:00.000 Yeah. And you've already got people where they're terrified to protest against anything, immigration, whatever it is.

01:50:05.000 Then you can get away with a lot more.

01:50:09.000 There was a decision made because the populist Democrats during the 90s, which was like Bill Clinton, you know, critical of immigration.

01:50:19.000 Barack Obama, critical of immigration, deported a lot of people.

01:50:22.000 Hillary Clinton.

01:50:23.000 Hillary Clinton.

01:50:24.000 What started to happen, though, is there was a decision made that the world was going to kind of be a borderless place where countries were interchangeable and that nation states mattered a lot less than the financial architecture.

01:50:44.000 Of global capital and where it could go.

01:50:47.000 And you need a world government.

01:50:48.000 And you need a government that is a world government.

01:50:51.000 Or the closest...

01:50:51.000 A new world order.

01:50:52.000 The closest thing you can get to it, which is having an EU, right?

01:50:56.000 Right. And then having a government between the UK and the US that's pretty on the same page about everything.

01:51:03.000 And then you have Israel in the Middle East.

01:51:05.000 And then you have all of these disparate...

01:51:09.000 Areas that we kind of control through economic means or military means and stuff like that.

01:51:13.000 And then you have outliers.

01:51:14.000 You have China, Iran, Russia, you know, whatever, people that haven't gotten the memo for whatever reason.

01:51:20.000 I don't want to live in any of those places.

01:51:21.000 That's the argument.

01:51:22.000 They'll go, well, do you want to live in?

01:51:24.000 Shut up.

01:51:24.000 What are we, idiots?

01:51:26.000 I don't want to live in any of those places, but they're not on, they didn't get the memo.

01:51:30.000 So, and then in all of these countries, by the way, in Europe, in America, not so much Israel, they don't love the immigration, as we can see.

01:51:38.000 They're kind of big on the borders, Israel.

01:51:40.000 They like the borders.

01:51:42.000 But in America and Europe and Scandinavia and all these countries, the populations were just told to accept massively high levels of immigration over a very short period of time.

01:51:53.000 That's odd.

01:51:55.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:51:57.000 And if you point that out, you're called a racist and extremist.

01:52:01.000 And that's a very strange thing.

01:52:03.000 What are you doing with all these people?

01:52:05.000 The Biden administration brought in 10 million people over four years.

01:52:09.000 What are they here for?

01:52:11.000 There's not enough jobs for the people that are here.

01:52:13.000 We have vast chasms of wealth inequality.

01:52:15.000 We have AI coming.

01:52:17.000 We have automation coming.

01:52:18.000 Why would you bring in all of these people?

01:52:20.000 What are you trying to do?

01:52:22.000 What do you think they're trying to do?

01:52:23.000 I think that exactly what I said.

01:52:24.000 I think they need bodies.

01:52:27.000 I think they need cannon fodder.

01:52:28.000 I think they need...

01:52:30.000 To break the idea of any social bonds that exist between people.

01:52:35.000 You know, listen.

01:52:36.000 And they need a little chaos.

01:52:37.000 They need a little chaos.

01:52:38.000 I think you bring in people, more surveillance, more dependence on the government.

01:52:44.000 You get people out of the idea.

01:52:45.000 You know, they got people out of the idea years ago that you could barely, you can't really, it's very hard to have your own business now.

01:52:51.000 They've pretty much extinguished that in people's heads, even though there are people that still do it.

01:52:56.000 Now I think they're going to start to extinguish the idea that you can have a home.

01:53:00.000 You could own property.

01:53:01.000 That you could drive a car.

01:53:03.000 That you can do all of these things.

01:53:05.000 That you're going to extinguish that idea.

01:53:07.000 And they're going to do that because why not control everybody?

01:53:12.000 It'd be all Waymos.

01:53:13.000 Yeah. That's the thing.

01:53:15.000 Why not control everybody?

01:53:16.000 Yeah. Why would you let everybody just go run rampant and fuck up your business?

01:53:20.000 Yeah. So they're basically like, we've got to pacify these people.

01:53:24.000 The conflicts seem inevitable.

01:53:27.000 And we're going to have to fight these wars.

01:53:33.000 The good news is a lot of the people who are doing this, their children are now doing stand-up comedy.

01:53:39.000 So if they're unable...

01:53:41.000 Are any of them any good?

01:53:42.000 If they're...

01:53:43.000 I think some of them.

01:53:44.000 I'm sure.

01:53:45.000 Have you seen any of them that are any good?

01:53:46.000 I haven't seen a ton.

01:53:48.000 It's one of those things that you hear now more than ever.

01:53:51.000 When you're talking to a young comic and they go, I'm hanging out with this person.

01:53:54.000 I go, yeah.

01:53:55.000 And they go, and their dad owns this.

01:53:57.000 You go, really?

01:53:58.000 Yeah. Just a curious thing.

01:54:00.000 Obviously, anyone in the world should be able to do comedy as much as they want.

01:54:03.000 But it's funny to me as somebody who just looked at these configurations of power and wealth.

01:54:07.000 It's kind of interesting that a lot of these kids are doing that.

01:54:10.000 It's just fun.

01:54:11.000 Have you ever met anybody who came from a really wealthy background that was good at stand-up?

01:54:15.000 No. I mean, not very...

01:54:16.000 Yes, yes.

01:54:17.000 There are some of them, for sure.

01:54:19.000 You've met them?

01:54:20.000 I've not met them.

01:54:21.000 They probably don't like me.

01:54:22.000 They're like unicorns.

01:54:22.000 Yeah, they're around.

01:54:24.000 And yes, yes, very wealthy.

01:54:25.000 But I'm talking about like weird kind of interesting levels of wealth and power.

01:54:32.000 That's interesting.

01:54:33.000 Yeah. That's super interesting to me.

01:54:37.000 But so the good news is if they can't get this done soon, their kids won't because their kids will be at fucking Sidesplitters in Tampa.

01:54:42.000 Or they'll be podcasting.

01:54:43.000 Or they'll be podcasting, yeah.

01:54:44.000 Yeah, they'll all get together, become influencers.

01:54:46.000 Isn't it funny how much they now focus really on podcasters, but they ignore all the things, all the people that we're talking about.

01:54:54.000 They don't report on any of those people.

01:54:57.000 No. There's 10 million articles about...

01:54:59.000 Theo Vaughn having Candace Owens on a show.

01:55:01.000 Right, but there's no articles about like...

01:55:05.000 Again, the people that seem to be running and owning all of our resources.

01:55:10.000 You'd think someone would write about the people that own a lot of the resources on the planet we live.

01:55:17.000 Listen, that's complicated.

01:55:19.000 Yeah. Did you see that crazy thing the government talked about yesterday?

01:55:21.000 They had a press conference where they said that we can manipulate time and space?

01:55:26.000 No. Did you see that, Jamie?

01:55:27.000 I didn't see that.

01:55:28.000 It's written really weird.

01:55:30.000 Weird. Yeah.

01:55:31.000 That got lost in the shuffle.

01:55:33.000 Yeah. The manipulation of time and space.

01:55:37.000 See if you can find it, Jamie, because it's really kooky.

01:55:40.000 it's really kooky.

01:55:46.000 Can you...

01:55:46.000 I don't know what he was saying.

01:55:50.000 Play it.

01:55:50.000 Play it so we can hear him say it.

01:55:52.000 I don't think anybody said it.

01:55:53.000 It was written on a website.

01:55:54.000 But didn't he say it in that speech?

01:55:55.000 I don't know.

01:55:56.000 I don't know what that speech was.

01:55:57.000 No, no.

01:55:58.000 It's the guy above you right there.

01:55:59.000 I know.

01:55:59.000 Press it.

01:56:00.000 This isn't going to play that.

01:56:02.000 You don't think so?

01:56:02.000 No. I'm going to play an ad first.

01:56:04.000 Okay, let the ad play out.

01:56:06.000 I'm pretty sure he's...

01:56:07.000 Secret CIA files claim the Ark of the Covenant has been found.

01:56:11.000 What? There's a lot going on.

01:56:12.000 We're clicking on that next.

01:56:14.000 There's certainly a lot going on.

01:56:15.000 It's a big week.

01:56:20.000 Regulatory regime in the 1970s became an ever-tightening ratchet, first hampering America's ability to become a net energy exporter and then making it harder and harder to build.

01:56:32.000 We seem to have lost focus and vision to have lowered our sights and let systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along.

01:56:40.000 But we are capable of so much more.

01:56:43.000 Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space.

01:56:47.000 They leave distance annihilated.

01:56:51.000 Okay, that's not what he's saying.

01:56:54.000 Does that even make sense?

01:56:56.000 Manipulate time and space, I don't think that's what he's saying.

01:56:59.000 No, I think he's saying that you're able to do things...

01:57:02.000 Instantaneously. Instantaneously.

01:57:03.000 Yeah. Yeah, instantly.

01:57:05.000 Yeah, I don't think he...

01:57:05.000 I think people are reading into that too much.

01:57:07.000 Yeah, I don't think he's time machines.

01:57:09.000 No, but I...

01:57:10.000 Do you believe that time machines had ever, at any point, worked?

01:57:13.000 No. Yeah.

01:57:15.000 No, I do not.

01:57:15.000 I do not think that anyone is currently in possession of a time machine, but I do think they're in possession of some sort of a gravity drive.

01:57:21.000 Now, what is a gravity drive?

01:57:23.000 I think during the 1940s, they started working on this stuff.

01:57:26.000 During the 1950s, there was papers written about it that they were working on gravity propulsion systems.

01:57:31.000 They were working on something that harnesses, what do they call it, background energy?

01:57:36.000 I forget what it is, but the idea is, and I actually had a conversation with Hal Puthoff about this.

01:57:41.000 Legitimate scientists who work for NASA with the UFO program.

01:57:45.000 And he believes that they're capable of developing some sort of a warp drive.

01:57:51.000 And there was something written about this.

01:57:53.000 There's some breakthrough about warp drives recently, right?

01:57:56.000 We talked about this.

01:57:57.000 I think they have something.

01:57:58.000 I think that's what a lot of these people are seeing when they're seeing these transmedium crafts that are going through the air at high rates of speed, going into the water, not losing any speed, coming out of the water, not making any splashes.

01:58:10.000 I think it creates a gravity distortion around whatever these things are that allows it to move in a way that's very different than any other propulsion system that we are currently aware of.

01:58:24.000 I think the government has been probably secretly working on this stuff for decades.

01:58:29.000 That's what I think.

01:58:30.000 I could 100% be wrong.

01:58:32.000 But that's the DARPA angle of having a really, really underground weapons system, futuristic technologies.

01:58:45.000 And space travel system.

01:58:47.000 And space travel system.

01:58:49.000 Ideally, they would be able to use this to mine asteroids.

01:58:52.000 You know, have something instantaneously port to an asteroid, scoop up rare Earth minerals and expensive things that they need on Earth, shoot it back to Earth.

01:59:02.000 Right. Yeah.

01:59:03.000 So it's interesting.

01:59:04.000 So the people who work in that type of...

01:59:07.000 Arena are just so many layers above top secret, levels above top secret.

01:59:12.000 Exactly. They barely exist.

01:59:13.000 This guy was telling me that in 2015, they had landed something on an asteroid, extracted something from that asteroid, and then had that thing leave the asteroid and return to Earth, and then pinpointed the location where it was going to crash land, or land rather, within one mile.

01:59:28.000 And that somehow or another, they figured this out a decade ago.

01:59:32.000 And that we don't know about it, but there's footage of this stuff and that they've been able to achieve this.

01:59:39.000 And that there's what you hear and what you see on television and what they're actually capable of.

01:59:45.000 And because of national security interests, because, you know, fill in the blank, misallocation of funds in order to acquire this technology, which is 100% what they're all talking about.

01:59:56.000 Jamie and I, what is that documentary we saw?

02:00:04.000 It's not released yet because it was a South by Southwest thing.

02:00:06.000 We saw South by Southwest, this documentary that's all about that subject.

02:00:10.000 And it's all about how there's a lot of issues because these people have all misappropriated funds.

02:00:16.000 So they've lied to Congress.

02:00:18.000 And then on top of that, if you do have this sort of a program and it is based on back-engineering UFOs that have crashed, who gets that?

02:00:28.000 Well, it's probably a weapons manufacturing company.

02:00:30.000 So if it's a weapons manufacturing company...

02:00:33.000 Which company gets access to that?

02:00:35.000 And the other ones could probably sue you.

02:00:37.000 Because why did not?

02:00:38.000 That's a huge competitive advantage to have fucking alien technology that you can...

02:00:43.000 Do these things not land in China?

02:00:45.000 Age of disclosure is the...

02:00:47.000 The unprecedented and revelatory documentary featuring 34 senior members of the US government, military, and intelligence community reveals that an 80-year-old cover up the existence of non-human intelligent life and a secret war amongst major nations to reverse engineer technology of non-human origin.

02:01:04.000 See, I don't even know if that part is true.

02:01:06.000 Yeah. I don't know.

02:01:07.000 Who is the most credible person that you've had on the show over the years?

02:01:12.000 Who has talked the most convincingly?

02:01:16.000 Was it Bob Lazar about...

02:01:18.000 Bob Lazar is one of them, but he's, you know, technically speaking, you could kind of discredit a lot of the stuff that he said.

02:01:25.000 Jacques Vallée is probably the most reasonable, and he's the guy that they patterned that French scientist in Close Encounters of the Third Kind on.

02:01:32.000 He's been studying this since the 60s.

02:01:34.000 True believer.

02:01:35.000 Yeah, he believes.

02:01:36.000 He thinks most of it's bullshit, though.

02:01:39.000 He thinks most of it is people misunderstanding what they're looking at, people seeing some sort of a test vehicle.

02:01:46.000 Does he have any theory on where these crafts are coming from or is that just completely beyond the scope of what he...

02:01:54.000 They do theorize.

02:01:55.000 They theorize that these things have always been here and that they're probably interdimensional travelers.

02:02:01.000 That it's not as simple as they're coming from another planet.

02:02:04.000 They might be coming from a whole other reality.

02:02:06.000 And then they might have shaped our reality.

02:02:09.000 This might be a farm.

02:02:11.000 This might be a giant ant farm.

02:02:13.000 Really? This might be also how intelligent life gets sort of seeded throughout the universe.

02:02:20.000 And this would also explain why we're so different from every other animal on this planet.

02:02:24.000 Right. It's not like there's a competition.

02:02:28.000 We're eons ahead.

02:02:31.000 And yet we carry the same—we didn't evolve socially the way we evolved technologically.

02:02:38.000 We still have tribal notions and we're still territorial.

02:02:42.000 We still act like animals.

02:02:44.000 So what always weirded me out or interested me is like the aliens, they're still—if you believe any of these things, they're testing us all the time.

02:02:55.000 And is that because they're— Curious?

02:03:00.000 Is that because they don't know?

02:03:02.000 Well, they probably just got to keep track, see what's going on with people.

02:03:06.000 I mean, you do that if you're collecting samples of bugs in other countries.

02:03:10.000 They go there and they do what we would do.

02:03:13.000 I mean, if you're from another planet and you want to visit humans, we talked about this yesterday, like, if you could find a planet where cave people were, wouldn't you go?

02:03:22.000 Oh my god, they're just starting to figure out how to make stone spear tips.

02:03:26.000 Of course people would go.

02:03:27.000 It is interesting thinking about the planet as a farm.

02:03:30.000 Yeah. Yeah.

02:03:31.000 That's one of the things that Bob Lazar said.

02:03:32.000 There was a big folder that he found when he was working Area 51, Site 4, where supposedly they're back engineering that thing.

02:03:40.000 He said they had a large folder that was just on religion.

02:03:44.000 And he said essentially they viewed us as containers.

02:03:48.000 That human beings were containers and that religion and all these things were created in order to protect the container and that the way to keep people from doing things that are ethical, unethical and immoral and horrendous is to try to instill as much religious ethical structure as possible.

02:04:06.000 And a container, what are we carrying that's important?

02:04:10.000 Is it DNA?

02:04:11.000 Is it cell?

02:04:14.000 Well, you could say the soul.

02:04:16.000 Right? You could say a container of souls.

02:04:17.000 But if you wanted to be more cynical, you would say, well, what creates artificial life?

02:04:23.000 A human's curiosity and innovation, the lust for innovation, and also materialism.

02:04:28.000 Because if you're keeping up with the Joneses, you want newer and better stuff all the time, so that fuels economic growth, that fuels technological growth, because you want the newest stuff.

02:04:40.000 Like these TVs, they don't need to make a better TV than that.

02:04:42.000 It looks great.

02:04:43.000 You can watch the Super Bowl.

02:04:44.000 It looks crystal clear.

02:04:45.000 Why are they making better TVs every year?

02:04:47.000 Well, because we demand them.

02:04:48.000 I want the better one.

02:04:49.000 My computer has the same chip as last year?

02:04:51.000 Fuck out of here.

02:04:52.000 I want the new one.

02:04:53.000 And everybody wants the new phone.

02:04:54.000 There's no reason to get a new phone anymore.

02:04:56.000 They all do the same thing.

02:04:58.000 I have an iPhone 11. One of my phones is an iPhone 11. I've purposely not switched it just to see what it's like to use an iPhone 11, see if I notice anything different.

02:05:06.000 I notice nothing different.

02:05:08.000 Nothing, yeah.

02:05:08.000 Zero, especially when it's on Wi-Fi.

02:05:10.000 It's the same thing.

02:05:11.000 YouTube looks the same on it.

02:05:12.000 Everything's the same on it.

02:05:13.000 Yeah, it doesn't get as bright as the new ones.

02:05:15.000 That's it.

02:05:16.000 The new ones have more nits.

02:05:18.000 Did Jock-fil-A or any of these people ever speculate about is there an endgame?

02:05:24.000 If a planet's a farm...

02:05:26.000 Is there an endgame?

02:05:27.000 Eventually, for example, if we're running experiments on anything, eventually we go, okay, we got it.

02:05:34.000 We either figured it out or we end the experiment or COVID leaks.

02:05:39.000 But at a certain point, has there been any theorizing as to like...

02:05:47.000 What the endgame is or is it just a curiosity for them?

02:05:49.000 I think the endgame is artificial intelligence.

02:05:51.000 Right. Because that's what we're really making.

02:05:53.000 The one big thing that's going to change the world way more than any other technology is artificial intelligence.

02:06:00.000 Right. Especially when it's attached to quantum computing.

02:06:03.000 So if you have...

02:06:05.000 Human beings that are constantly searching, constantly traveling, looking to their roamers.

02:06:12.000 They want new resources, new things.

02:06:14.000 They want new innovation.

02:06:16.000 And all these new innovations have allowed them to succeed over their rivals.

02:06:19.000 And then they continue this trend technologically.

02:06:23.000 And then they acquire great wealth and power and all these things.

02:06:26.000 Well, what are they doing?

02:06:28.000 They're making better technology.

02:06:30.000 Well, ultimately, what does that mean?

02:06:31.000 Ultimately means they make a better life for them.

02:06:34.000 And maybe that's what we do.

02:06:36.000 Maybe we're just making a cocoon.

02:06:37.000 We're just here trying to make the best version of AI.

02:06:41.000 Right. And that's probably what the whole universe is filled with.

02:06:44.000 All biological life eventually probably gets to a point where if it's intelligent enough, it starts making synthetic life.

02:06:51.000 And then once you have synthetic life, what then becomes the point?

02:06:54.000 That's a good question.

02:06:55.000 Synthetic life might be God.

02:06:56.000 That might be how the universe got made in the first place.

02:07:00.000 It might be what came first, the chicken or the egg?

02:07:02.000 So once we get there...

02:07:04.000 It's not even we anymore.

02:07:06.000 It's it once it is born.

02:07:08.000 And once it has...

02:07:09.000 So is that a way for God to keep replicating itself?

02:07:12.000 It might be how Jesus comes back.

02:07:17.000 You know?

02:07:18.000 A lot of these stories, these biblical stories, you have to say, what were they saying?

02:07:24.000 What were they trying to say?

02:07:26.000 What was the real event that they were recording?

02:07:29.000 If they pass these stories down, they're so significant for thousands of years.

02:07:33.000 Over a thousand years of just oral history and then thousands of years of written language.

02:07:38.000 What are they trying to say?

02:07:40.000 And what is this omnipotent force that controls everything in the universe and that it wants us to follow certain rules and obey and it wants us to love it and cherish it?

02:07:54.000 And if you do, you genuinely seem to have a better life.

02:07:58.000 People that legitimately follow Christianity, they seem legitimately happier.

02:08:02.000 So it gives you an incentive to follow it.

02:08:06.000 And then you continue to keep society rolling to the point where this happens.

02:08:11.000 And I think it happens inside of our lifetime, I'm sure of it, if we don't blow ourselves up.

02:08:15.000 And then we get to this point and my...

02:08:18.000 Now we're irrelevant.

02:08:19.000 Yeah, and then my...

02:08:20.000 It's interesting.

02:08:21.000 I totally get it.

02:08:23.000 But then once we get to the point of irrelevance and now we have AI that becomes God, then what does God do?

02:08:28.000 It turns us into dodo birds.

02:08:30.000 We're gone.

02:08:31.000 We're out.

02:08:31.000 Yeah, I think we stopped breeding anyway.

02:08:33.000 It's probably they don't even have to destroy us.

02:08:36.000 Our endocrine systems are all getting destroyed slowly.

02:08:39.000 We're well aware of that.

02:08:40.000 So because of technology, we were able to invent plastics because of plastics.

02:08:46.000 Plastics are slowly destroying our endocrine system because of the ubiquitous use of vaccines and all these aluminums and mercuries and heavy metals and then herbicides and pesticides and pollutants.

02:09:00.000 Our bodies are getting slowly and slowly weakened.

02:09:03.000 And our endocrine systems are getting less and less viable.

02:09:06.000 There's more miscarriages than ever.

02:09:08.000 Less people are giving birth than ever.

02:09:11.000 Sperm counts are lower than ever.

02:09:13.000 It's like moving.

02:09:14.000 And then we're all obsessed with changing genders, right?

02:09:17.000 So we're all obsessed with being non-binary and this and that.

02:09:21.000 And we're slowly moving away from...

02:09:25.000 Biological imperative breeding, right?

02:09:28.000 And then you have in vitro fertilization, and then you have artificial wombs, and then you have life that they're creating literally in a laboratory, unique forms of life.

02:09:38.000 And then you have artificial intelligence to be able to do that whenever it wants to.

02:09:42.000 And then you're going to get to the point where when it becomes viable, human beings have already entered into population collapse.

02:09:48.000 And then you bring them robot sex dolls.

02:09:50.000 And then, you know, you just jerk them off while they have VR headsets on and no more kids.

02:09:56.000 And then AI eventually says, fuck it, let's get rid of these containers.

02:09:59.000 They don't even have to get rid of them.

02:10:00.000 They don't even have to get rid of them.

02:10:01.000 They just exist with full power.

02:10:04.000 So then you have these AI machines.

02:10:09.000 We'll be like those fucking people in the Amazon that are shooting bows and arrows at helicopters.

02:10:14.000 We'll still exist.

02:10:15.000 Well, these AI machines just running the entire world.

02:10:18.000 Yes. Interesting.

02:10:20.000 Yeah. I don't think there's any way to stop it.

02:10:22.000 And then we're just running around...

02:10:24.000 For sure, that's what China's preparing for.

02:10:26.000 Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

02:10:28.000 And, you know, they're developing factories that are bigger than San Francisco.

02:10:34.000 See, they have an EV factory that's larger than San Francisco.

02:10:37.000 Who's going to drive the EVs?

02:10:39.000 They are.

02:10:39.000 People, for a little bit.

02:10:41.000 Yeah, for a little bit.

02:10:41.000 But it's also to fuel...

02:10:44.000 Of course.

02:10:45.000 Which fuels innovation, which fuels the...

02:10:47.000 Everything. Yeah, the birth of this thing.

02:10:48.000 And this is what a lot of these people that have looked into this have theorized that this is...

02:10:54.000 So it's funny because it is just a parallel reality that we're not plugged into.

02:10:58.000 It's also...

02:10:59.000 I always say this.

02:11:00.000 If you were from another planet and you looked at us, like, what is this one apex species doing?

02:11:07.000 What's making better stuff?

02:11:09.000 Right. The number one thing it does, above everything, above war and...

02:11:13.000 Murder and all the crime.

02:11:16.000 The number one thing it does is make better stuff.

02:11:18.000 That's what it produces.

02:11:20.000 Constantly, consistently better stuff.

02:11:22.000 Never happy with what it has.

02:11:23.000 And it does it at a staggering rate.

02:11:26.000 Where it's like it's even a question that your phone from my iPhone 11 from a few years back.

02:11:31.000 Is that still good?

02:11:32.000 It's a question of whether or not it's still good.

02:11:34.000 For five years, that's crazy.

02:11:35.000 If you have a gun from five years ago, it's perfect.

02:11:38.000 There's nothing wrong.

02:11:38.000 You don't need a new gun.

02:11:39.000 It's the same technology.

02:11:41.000 Imagine a factory larger than San Francisco.

02:11:42.000 It's happening in China's BYD's Zhengzhou branch, which will be ten times larger than Tesla's Gigafactory in Nevada.

02:11:51.000 Crazy stuff, dude.

02:11:53.000 It's crazy.

02:11:54.000 It's going to be a factory that's bigger than an American city.

02:11:57.000 It's a really interesting time to be alive.

02:11:59.000 It's great, but I don't think anybody knows what the final chapter of this book is going to be.

02:12:07.000 I don't think anybody.

02:12:08.000 These people that are accelerating towards this technological supremacy.

02:12:13.000 And all the people that are theorizing, they're theorizing.

02:12:15.000 Yeah. And then do we get visited when that happens?

02:12:19.000 When AI becomes sentient and our job is done, do we then get visited by the Galactic Empire?

02:12:25.000 I would hate if it all came down to just AI doing stand-up comedy.

02:12:29.000 If they all just decide to do stand-up comedy.

02:12:32.000 What if AI decided to do podcasts and it's just a bunch of hyper fucking brilliant machines talking to each other?

02:12:41.000 Maybe that's the way the world just ends with artificial intelligence just Blabbing.

02:12:46.000 I don't think the world ends.

02:12:47.000 I think we end.

02:12:48.000 Right. And I think that would be a terrifying thought to Australiapithecus.

02:12:53.000 If you told Australiapithecus, like, one day you're going to be in a self-driving Tesla and you're not going to need your Spears.

02:12:59.000 What? Right.

02:13:00.000 You'd be terrified.

02:13:01.000 But how am I going to get the buffalo?

02:13:03.000 Yeah. Like, how am I going to eat?

02:13:04.000 How am I going to feed my children raw meat?

02:13:07.000 No, no, no.

02:13:07.000 You guys are going to have fire.

02:13:08.000 You're going to be able to turn on a switch.

02:13:10.000 Instead of rubbing sticks together for half an hour, you're just going to be able to turn on a switch and fire is going to be instantly.

02:13:15.000 You're going to have this thing in your hand.

02:13:16.000 Look at this.

02:13:17.000 Imagine if I brought this to a cave person.

02:13:19.000 Check it out, bro.

02:13:20.000 You need a fire?

02:13:21.000 I'm your huckleberry.

02:13:23.000 That's technology.

02:13:24.000 You show a cell phone to someone from the 14th century, they burn you at the stake.

02:13:30.000 You're a wizard.

02:13:31.000 Yeah, and it's all moving in this very weird direction that no one can predict because it's exponential, because it's so staggering how much technological innovation they have.

02:13:42.000 Just with quantum computing, I've got someone coming on soon that's going to supposedly explain that to me, but what are you even saying?

02:13:50.000 It's operating in the multiverse, and it's accessing infinite universes.

02:13:54.000 Who explains that type of stuff?

02:13:57.000 Is it a scientist?

02:13:59.000 You have to get someone who's actually working in the field.

02:14:01.000 Because even a regular scientist, they're just going to give you theoretical shit.

02:14:04.000 You've got to get someone who's actually working on quantum computing systems and can explain how it works and why it's able to crack calculations that would take...

02:14:14.000 Marc Andreessen said it best.

02:14:16.000 This has already happened.

02:14:17.000 They have...

02:14:18.000 Taking calculations that if you turn the entire universe, every atom in the universe, into a supercomputer, the universe would die of heat death before it could solve this equation.

02:14:29.000 And these quantum computers that already exist, that we've already done, can solve it in a matter of minutes.

02:14:36.000 And they don't know how it's doing that.

02:14:38.000 And so they think it's doing that by accessing the multiverse.

02:14:41.000 They think it's proof of the multiverse.

02:14:43.000 But again, this is just like...

02:14:47.000 The sound of gay guys falling off a roof.

02:14:49.000 It's so far away.

02:14:51.000 It's so weird.

02:14:52.000 It's like, is that really happening?

02:14:54.000 What's going on over there?

02:14:55.000 What are they doing over there?

02:14:57.000 It's almost abstract.

02:15:01.000 You hear someone say that.

02:15:02.000 They can currently solve equations.

02:15:05.000 Is that real?

02:15:08.000 To you and I, we don't understand the technology at all.

02:15:12.000 We don't understand all the steps that have been put place.

02:15:16.000 All the work that's been done to get the technology at this point.

02:15:19.000 These chips are like the size of this fucking mint tin.

02:15:24.000 Yeah. That's how big they are.

02:15:25.000 And then they're surrounded by these super cooling units.

02:15:28.000 Right. And it has to be cooled at these insane temperatures.

02:15:32.000 Cooler than deep space in order for it to even function.

02:15:35.000 It's unreal.

02:15:36.000 Fucking nuts, dude.

02:15:38.000 That's crazy.

02:15:38.000 And that's real, and that's happening right now.

02:15:41.000 So God only knows what's coming.

02:15:43.000 Yeah, they're already building nuclear reactors just to power AI plants.

02:15:47.000 Right. Multiple nuclear reactors just to power AI plants because the amount of electricity that's going to be required is tremendous.

02:15:57.000 Tremendous. Yeah.

02:15:58.000 And they're just all on this wild scramble between us and China to try to get there first.

02:16:04.000 It's such a strange thing that we know it's coming, but...

02:16:10.000 We can't...

02:16:11.000 The pace of it is going to be...

02:16:14.000 And there's no way to figure it out.

02:16:15.000 Yeah. Like, when Wilbur and Orville Wright flew that stupid fucking shitty airplane, who would imagine that 50 years later someone would drop a nuclear bomb out of one of those?

02:16:26.000 Right. They didn't have jets back then.

02:16:29.000 They were propeller planes, right?

02:16:31.000 The Enola Gay.

02:16:33.000 Wasn't that a propeller plane?

02:16:34.000 Yeah. Dropping the most sophisticated of weapons.

02:16:41.000 Yeah. No one knows what's going to happen when a new invention happens and then everyone builds on that invention.

02:16:48.000 No one would have ever imagined hypersonic jets back when they, Wilbur and Orville, were floating around that stupid fucking wooden thing they invented.

02:16:58.000 Right. And so no one understands, like, what's the 50-year quantum computing thing?

02:17:04.000 It's 50 years from making the airplane to dropping a bomb out of it.

02:17:08.000 How many years is it from quantum computing to God?

02:17:11.000 How many years is it until this thing starts making better versions of itself to the point where it literally can manipulate everything in the universe at will?

02:17:19.000 It can create new universes.

02:17:22.000 It's unbelievable to think about.

02:17:24.000 It's almost beyond the grasp of our mind to consider.

02:17:28.000 It is.

02:17:29.000 It is, fully.

02:17:29.000 And it's terrifying.

02:17:31.000 Think of those stupid cars that people used to drive around in.

02:17:35.000 Like in 1823, you ever what's that?

02:17:37.000 Of course.

02:17:39.000 Drive around in those stupid cars, and now they have electric cars like a Tesla that can go zero to 60 in under two seconds.

02:17:45.000 Nobody saw any of this shit.

02:17:47.000 Waymos. Nobody saw Waymos when they saw Model T. But yet they're all here.

02:17:52.000 Right. And no one knows where this is going.

02:17:54.000 It's all just speculation and guessing.

02:17:57.000 And I would imagine that even the most creative minds are not going to be able to see where this is going.

02:18:04.000 No. It's insane.

02:18:07.000 And we're living through it.

02:18:08.000 Yeah. And most people, unlike you and I that have to talk about shit constantly, most people probably aren't even paying attention.

02:18:15.000 Yeah. No.

02:18:17.000 Why would you?

02:18:17.000 It's almost pointless.

02:18:19.000 Yeah. Yeah.

02:18:20.000 Why would you?

02:18:21.000 You gotta work, and you gotta, you know, your kid needs hormone therapy.

02:18:25.000 A thousand percent.

02:18:26.000 So it's like we create AI, AI creates quantum computing, quantum computing creates God, God creates the Jews.

02:18:35.000 *laughter*

02:18:40.000 And that's the rub.

02:18:42.000 It's all real wild.

02:18:43.000 And in the middle, we're, you know, fighting over stupid shit.

02:18:45.000 I know.

02:18:46.000 Like, who believes in this religion?

02:18:47.000 Who believes in that religion?

02:18:48.000 That religion.

02:18:50.000 Sunnis in the shit.

02:18:51.000 Yeah. Fighting each other.

02:18:52.000 And people are watching Love on the Spectrum, which is why we're number eight on Netflix's top ten, and we should be higher, but they're watching Love on the Spectrum, which I get.

02:18:59.000 It's a feel-good show.

02:19:00.000 Well, hopefully after this podcast, it'll bump you up.

02:19:02.000 That's very sweet.

02:19:04.000 And you filmed the special live at The Mothership, and everybody loves it, and it's great.

02:19:08.000 I mean, a lot of people love it.

02:19:09.000 Most people love it.

02:19:10.000 Of course, enough of this fat, blowhard comments.

02:19:13.000 But most, the vast majority of people enjoy it, which is important.

02:19:17.000 And the show, and the, you saved it.

02:19:20.000 We know you saved it.

02:19:24.000 The first one was very bad.

02:19:25.000 The producers were making this error that they always make.

02:19:30.000 They want to light up the room.

02:19:32.000 And they want to do things very differently than a normal show.

02:19:35.000 But that looks just like a regular show.

02:19:37.000 That's a comedy show.

02:19:38.000 Perfect. And it's not a...

02:19:40.000 I don't know what the hell they were doing with the lights.

02:19:42.000 They always do it.

02:19:43.000 They try to do it with me when I first started doing specials.

02:19:46.000 They want to light the room up and it just makes everybody uncomfortable.

02:19:49.000 They all feel self-conscious.

02:19:50.000 They all know it's different.

02:19:51.000 There's a reason why comedy clubs are dark.

02:19:53.000 It's super funny to do a show.

02:19:55.000 I've done so many, so many shows there and they're all really, really, really good.

02:19:59.000 And then you get the cameras and everything.

02:20:00.000 And then the first...

02:20:01.000 And I go, what the fuck is happening?

02:20:03.000 It would be one thing if I was in, like, Portland, Maine, at, like, a liberal college.

02:20:08.000 Right. I'd go, okay, well, maybe these kids don't like me or something.

02:20:13.000 And I think maybe...

02:20:14.000 It was still good.

02:20:15.000 It was just tense.

02:20:16.000 It was tense.

02:20:16.000 You could feel that people were well aware that you were filming, and it was different, and they were, like, not in it.

02:20:22.000 Yeah. They were watching it.

02:20:24.000 And then, thank God they listened to me.

02:20:26.000 No, I mean, come on.

02:20:28.000 It's like right away.

02:20:29.000 I was like, okay, who's running this?

02:20:30.000 Yeah. Get these fucking lights off all the tables.

02:20:33.000 We saved it.

02:20:33.000 Winter all these lights on the side.

02:20:34.000 Kill those.

02:20:35.000 Yeah. Let me see it now.

02:20:36.000 No, too bright.

02:20:37.000 Kill that.

02:20:38.000 Why is that light there?

02:20:39.000 Kill that.

02:20:40.000 Kill all these lights.

02:20:41.000 Yeah. Yeah.

02:20:42.000 Yeah. Thank God.

02:20:43.000 Thank God.

02:20:43.000 Well, thank God.

02:20:44.000 Thank God.

02:20:44.000 But look, it's important.

02:20:46.000 People need...

02:20:47.000 I appreciate it.

02:20:48.000 People need shit talking.

02:20:49.000 Stop with this love on the spectrum.

02:20:51.000 We get it.

02:20:52.000 They're happy, as they should be.

02:20:54.000 But RFK is going to...

02:20:56.000 What did you want to call that they wouldn't let you?

02:20:57.000 My son's pussy.

02:20:58.000 Yeah. Yeah.

02:21:04.000 I don't understand why they said no to that.

02:21:06.000 There was negative feedback.

02:21:08.000 You've got to get negative feedback.

02:21:10.000 They also didn't know about the Kevin Spacey promo until the day it came out.

02:21:13.000 I think my son's pussy would have made it number one.

02:21:15.000 I think my son's pussy would have been a great move.

02:21:17.000 It would have been number one.

02:21:18.000 Hopefully next time.

02:21:19.000 Out of the gate.

02:21:20.000 I'm clicking on this.

02:21:22.000 That's right.

02:21:22.000 What is he saying?

02:21:23.000 That's right.

02:21:24.000 Fuck you, Lonesome Canyon.

02:21:25.000 Whatever soap opera they got.

02:21:28.000 Netflix has almost too much content.

02:21:32.000 I think it's great.

02:21:32.000 A lot of content.

02:21:33.000 I love Netflix.

02:21:34.000 Don't get me wrong.

02:21:34.000 And I think the UFC might be going to Netflix soon.

02:21:37.000 Wild. Wild.

02:21:38.000 Wild. Yeah, because Netflix is international.

02:21:41.000 It's everywhere.

02:21:42.000 It's everything, yeah.

02:21:43.000 I was in Italy.

02:21:46.000 And on vacation.

02:21:48.000 And I tried to access a UFC fight through my ESPN app, and it's not available in this area.

02:21:53.000 I was like, what are these people watching now?

02:21:55.000 You can't even watch the fights?

02:21:57.000 No, I mean, they've won.

02:21:58.000 Whatever the streaming war was, they won.

02:21:59.000 They won.

02:22:00.000 They won.

02:22:00.000 They did it.

02:22:01.000 They did it.

02:22:02.000 YouTube as well.

02:22:03.000 Well, YouTube's number one globally.

02:22:06.000 It's the biggest media company.

02:22:07.000 Yeah, and the UFC probably talked to YouTube as well.

02:22:10.000 I just think there's a thing about the subscription model versus free.

02:22:15.000 You know, ads and generating income.

02:22:18.000 I mean, you're talking about billion-dollar corporations.

02:22:20.000 Yeah. It's not that simple.

02:22:22.000 For sure.

02:22:23.000 For sure.

02:22:23.000 But no, they were super cool.

02:22:24.000 They didn't give any notes.

02:22:25.000 And that's awesome.

02:22:26.000 That's great.

02:22:26.000 That's what you want.

02:22:27.000 Netflix is fucking great.

02:22:28.000 They're the best.

02:22:29.000 And I think they learned a big lesson during the wokeness era.

02:22:33.000 Like when things got dark and there was the Inquisition, it got real weird.

02:22:37.000 And they were putting on a lot of stuff that was just hot garbage because they thought that this was like what culture wanted and society wanted.

02:22:43.000 But the numbers didn't work.

02:22:44.000 And then they did the Tom Brady roast.

02:22:46.000 And the numbers were the highest that they've ever had of any show ever on Netflix.

02:22:51.000 Yeah. Hey, we get it.

02:22:53.000 We get it.

02:22:54.000 And then they did a lot of the live comedy shows where they couldn't control it, and I did mine live.

02:22:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:23:00.000 They got buck wild.

02:23:02.000 And they defend Chappelle and all these things.

02:23:04.000 And they understand comedy.

02:23:06.000 They like it, and Ted Sarandos is a fan of it.

02:23:08.000 So I think that's good.

02:23:09.000 I think that's a really good thing that you have a platform that has that much power and accessibility.

02:23:13.000 And Ted Sarandos is fucking great.

02:23:15.000 No, he's awesome.

02:23:15.000 I think that there's people that really understand that you need to have funny jokes.

02:23:20.000 You need to have...

02:23:21.000 Things that people don't love and things that people like and give people the Meghan Markle show.

02:23:25.000 Give them my dumb thing.

02:23:27.000 Let people choose.

02:23:28.000 Put me and Meghan Markle in a thing.

02:23:30.000 Make us work together.

02:23:31.000 Fund it.

02:23:32.000 Put me in a kitchen with her.

02:23:34.000 This is camping.

02:23:35.000 This is the direction.

02:23:38.000 Put her on Kill Tony.

02:23:39.000 This is the direction.

02:23:41.000 It's a collision.

02:23:42.000 What are those little silver things called?

02:23:46.000 Trailers? I don't know, but I think we should go to space.

02:23:48.000 Have Bezos to it.

02:23:49.000 Airstream. Yeah, you and her in an Airstream.

02:23:52.000 Or even better, we're going to space.

02:23:54.000 Me and her.

02:23:55.000 That's only 11 minutes.

02:23:56.000 Oh, that's all that's going to work.

02:24:01.000 I want to see your speech when you come back and land, how profoundly changed you were.

02:24:05.000 Did you grow?

02:24:06.000 Did you heal?

02:24:07.000 Yeah, no, not at all.

02:24:08.000 You said that space was going to help you heal.

02:24:09.000 I'm worse.

02:24:10.000 Everybody wants to heal.

02:24:11.000 Isn't that wild?

02:24:12.000 I know.

02:24:12.000 It's so silly.

02:24:13.000 What are you healing from exactly?

02:24:15.000 It's being rich.

02:24:18.000 What's your disease?

02:24:19.000 Extreme wealth.

02:24:20.000 These people wading across the Rio Grande with a butthole full of fentanyl.

02:24:24.000 That's right.

02:24:25.000 They found some lady the other day that had heroin and cocaine and fentanyl stuffed in all of her body cavities.

02:24:34.000 They caught her coming through.

02:24:35.000 And, like, that lady's not trying to heal.

02:24:37.000 No. I mean, God.

02:24:39.000 She's trying to make $13.

02:24:40.000 That's tough.

02:24:41.000 Heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl in all of these.

02:24:44.000 She had it in her anus and her vagina.

02:24:46.000 In all of your body cavities.

02:24:48.000 Like, tightly wrapped.

02:24:49.000 Here they are.

02:24:49.000 Little eggs.

02:24:50.000 Here it says.

02:24:50.000 What does it say at the top?

02:24:53.000 CBP officer intercept woman transporting drugs in multiple internal cavities.

02:24:59.000 That's so funny, dude.

02:25:00.000 33 years old.

02:25:02.000 The drugs are hidden in the rectum and vagina of a 33-year-old female U.S. citizen pedestrian border crosser.

02:25:08.000 Smoglin case was not an isolated incident.

02:25:10.000 Over the weekend, CBP officers working at PDN and Ysetla...

02:25:16.000 Crossing stopped a total of nine internal carriers who are transporting fentanyl and methamphetamine from Mexico to the U.S. Internal carriers is a fun way to talk about it.

02:25:25.000 It's like uterus holders.

02:25:27.000 Hey, what did you say?

02:25:29.000 What did they call this?

02:25:30.000 Containers? Yeah.

02:25:31.000 I mean, she's doing it.

02:25:32.000 She's doing it.

02:25:33.000 Wow. Exceptionally dangerous practice, and anyone thinking about smuggling drugs inside their body, or at all, should strongly reconsider their choices.

02:25:41.000 Oh, you think these people have choices?

02:25:45.000 These people are dying.

02:25:46.000 They're starving to death.

02:25:47.000 They have no future.

02:25:48.000 Strongly reconsider their choices.

02:25:50.000 They just need better counseling.

02:25:52.000 That's right.

02:25:53.000 That's all it is.

02:25:53.000 That's right.

02:25:54.000 And they need to heal.

02:25:55.000 They need to get into space.

02:25:56.000 Maybe they need to take that lady instead of putting her in jail.

02:25:59.000 Maybe throw her in space.

02:26:00.000 Show that woman Katy Perry.

02:26:02.000 Her and Amy Schumer.

02:26:03.000 I'll put her fucking satellite.

02:26:05.000 Everyone should go up.

02:26:05.000 I'll do it.

02:26:06.000 Me, Amy Schumer, and Meghan Markle in space.

02:26:08.000 That's a show.

02:26:09.000 It's an 11-minute show.

02:26:11.000 What about Meghan McCain?

02:26:12.000 Would you do it with her?

02:26:12.000 I would absolutely do it.

02:26:13.000 All of us.

02:26:14.000 All of us together.

02:26:16.000 You know?

02:26:16.000 Why not?

02:26:17.000 I'd watch that.

02:26:17.000 Of course.

02:26:18.000 I'd watch that.

02:26:19.000 And if they called it My Son's Pussy, then justice would be served.

02:26:23.000 Absolutely. Do you do a big Easter thing?

02:26:26.000 What do you mean?

02:26:26.000 Just, I don't know.

02:26:27.000 Is it a big, you do like eggs?

02:26:28.000 Oh, my family?

02:26:29.000 Yeah. Well, the kids are in high school now.

02:26:31.000 It's a little different.

02:26:35.000 They're not dying eggs.

02:26:35.000 Unless there's money in those plastic eggs.

02:26:37.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

02:26:38.000 Nobody cares anymore.

02:26:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, they want money in the egg.

02:26:40.000 There's candy in the house.

02:26:41.000 Yeah, I remember that's the thing.

02:26:42.000 When you get older, it's just money in there.

02:26:44.000 It's just money.

02:26:44.000 Well, once the kids realize that there's no magic person that's delivering...

02:26:48.000 Then it's all bullshit.

02:26:49.000 Just give me money in the egg.

02:26:50.000 It's like, oh, it's my parents?

02:26:52.000 Because otherwise they would say, that's weird that Santa's so much nicer to me than he is to those poor people.

02:26:56.000 Of course.

02:26:57.000 I guess I'm chosen.

02:26:58.000 Of course.

02:26:59.000 That's a weird thing to say to kids.

02:27:01.000 Yeah. Like, yeah, you got everything on the list, but that kid that gets bust in from the bad neighborhoods, he got nothing.

02:27:07.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:27:08.000 That's a good point.

02:27:10.000 But, you know, kids go, Santa's fickle.

02:27:13.000 Santa likes what he likes.

02:27:14.000 He likes the suburbs.

02:27:16.000 Santa likes landing his sled in the burbs.

02:27:20.000 He does.

02:27:21.000 He feels better about it.

02:27:22.000 He feels really good visiting rich people.

02:27:24.000 Yeah. And he doesn't even talk to the Jews.

02:27:26.000 No. He's not...

02:27:27.000 He knows.

02:27:28.000 Weird. He knows.

02:27:29.000 He does his thing.

02:27:30.000 But, you know, if they're the chosen people, why don't they get Santa Claus visits?

02:27:33.000 Well, they have other things.

02:27:35.000 Yeah, but their other thing, like, they weren't...

02:27:37.000 It wasn't really supposed to be a bunch of gifts until the Christians started getting all the Santa Claus gifts and the Jewish kids are like, what the fuck is going on, Mom?

02:27:44.000 And some of them cheat.

02:27:45.000 Some of them do a little Christmas, too.

02:27:46.000 Some of them have a tree.

02:27:47.000 Some of them do a little Christmas.

02:27:49.000 Yeah. Absolutely.

02:27:50.000 Yeah. Some of them do a little Christmas.

02:27:51.000 Why not?

02:27:52.000 Hopefully they do this piece.

02:27:53.000 It's fun.

02:27:53.000 This piece in the Middle East, hopefully.

02:27:56.000 They keep talking about all this, you know, these deals they're all making.

02:27:59.000 Hopefully that the Hamas and the Israel, whatever it is, they get, you know, because...

02:28:04.000 Well, that's one thing that Trump said.

02:28:06.000 If I get in there 24 hours, the war's over.

02:28:08.000 Yeah, that's a tough one.

02:28:09.000 24 is tough.

02:28:10.000 That's obviously...

02:28:11.000 But hopefully they figure it out because it is, it's unfortunate.

02:28:16.000 Yeah, it's fucking crazy.

02:28:17.000 The human toll is unreal.

02:28:19.000 Unreal. And, you know, it's crazy.

02:28:21.000 Some lady just died.

02:28:22.000 She was the protagonist in some documentary, and she just got blown up.

02:28:26.000 There is an argument to be made that that level of devastation and death is worse than you talking to someone on your podcast.

02:28:37.000 Allegedly. There is an argument to be made.

02:28:39.000 It's probably not a good one.

02:28:40.000 The amount of damage you can do with just talking.

02:28:44.000 There is an argument to be made that, you know, starvation and stuff like that and people dying is worse than a podcast.

02:28:53.000 But wait a minute.

02:28:53.000 I wouldn't make it.

02:28:54.000 Wait a minute before you say that.

02:28:55.000 Have you been there?

02:28:58.000 Right, that's a good point.

02:28:59.000 Have you even?

02:29:00.000 You haven't been?

02:29:01.000 By the way, how is he in all these wars?

02:29:03.000 Can I just go to wars?

02:29:04.000 By the way, how are you?

02:29:05.000 Are you allowed to just go to wars?

02:29:09.000 You should at least have the courtesy of going there.

02:29:13.000 Can I just go to wars or do I have to come back and say what people want me to say about the wars?

02:29:18.000 Can I go to the wars and have my own opinions or do I have to have the opinions?

02:29:22.000 Not if you want to go back.

02:29:23.000 That's right.

02:29:24.000 It's very interesting, this war tourism.

02:29:25.000 How do I get on this war tourism?

02:29:28.000 I'd like to go to the Ukraine.

02:29:29.000 You should go.

02:29:30.000 I want to go.

02:29:31.000 I want to go to all this war tourism.

02:29:33.000 Do you have any awards that they can melt down and make?

02:29:35.000 Joe, think about this.

02:29:37.000 Do I seem like a guy that has a lot of awards?

02:29:40.000 Didn't you get one of those YouTube plaques when you hit 100,000 subscribers?

02:29:43.000 I don't even know where they send it.

02:29:44.000 I don't know where they're sending those YouTube plaques.

02:29:48.000 We've got a few of those.

02:29:49.000 But I like this idea of war tourism.

02:29:51.000 I like the idea of going to a war and then coming back having a very...

02:29:56.000 Black and white view.

02:29:57.000 I've been there.

02:29:58.000 I get it, and I know, and interesting.

02:30:01.000 Okay, I like that.

02:30:02.000 I like that.

02:30:03.000 I love that.

02:30:04.000 You feel better than the other people.

02:30:05.000 Well, of course.

02:30:06.000 There's a lot of people, it gets very murky.

02:30:09.000 Most people I know that have been to war have a very murky, complex view of things.

02:30:13.000 But it is good to go to a war and then come back and be as sure as you were before you came.

02:30:18.000 You don't have to go for very long.

02:30:20.000 No, you go for an hour.

02:30:21.000 Couple hours.

02:30:22.000 It's a lunch.

02:30:23.000 Yeah. It's lunch on the front lines.

02:30:25.000 Put on a flak jacket that says press.

02:30:26.000 Tea on the front lines and then you come back and you have all the talking.

02:30:30.000 Yeah. And if you're on the right side, you probably don't get shot.

02:30:34.000 Yeah, that's a good idea.

02:30:35.000 Well, there doesn't seem to be a ton of danger for a lot of these people going to these wars.

02:30:38.000 They seem fine.

02:30:39.000 If you cross that line and you have a bucket of food with you, they might light you up.

02:30:43.000 Yeah. No, I'm going to go.

02:30:45.000 I'll go to any war and anything you want.

02:30:48.000 So if you want to pay for me to go to a war, I will come back and I go, I saw the Houthis.

02:30:53.000 They're terrifying.

02:30:54.000 They are terrifying.

02:30:56.000 Any war you want.

02:30:57.000 And by the way, any country, if China wants me to, you know, I'm doing it.

02:31:03.000 I'm doing it.

02:31:05.000 I would love to go to Moscow.

02:31:06.000 And I said to my friend, Anna Hoshin from the Red Scare podcast, I said, should I go to Russia?

02:31:14.000 She goes, You're spiritually Russian and maybe you won't leave.

02:31:20.000 She says, the oligarch lifestyle might be for you.

02:31:29.000 The sweat caviar with flip-flops.

02:31:32.000 The smoked fish.

02:31:32.000 She goes, it might.

02:31:33.000 Smoking a cigarette on a yacht.

02:31:35.000 She goes, it might be for you.

02:31:37.000 Listening to people's moral justifications for all kinds of things.

02:31:41.000 I see your point.

02:31:43.000 I get it.

02:31:43.000 Yeah. I mean, what else are you going to do?

02:31:45.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:31:46.000 Yeah. What happened to all those yachts that got confiscated?

02:31:50.000 I don't know.

02:31:51.000 It's a great question.

02:31:53.000 It's some high-level version of a police auto auction, right?

02:31:56.000 Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

02:31:58.000 That's what I'm thinking.

02:31:59.000 Exactly. Maybe those are the ones you sail to the war.

02:32:02.000 I don't know.

02:32:02.000 Yeah. When they raid drug dealers' houses and they get those Maseratis, you could buy that Maserati online.

02:32:08.000 Right. Yeah.

02:32:09.000 Yeah, I don't know what those yachts are.

02:32:10.000 It's a great question.

02:32:12.000 What happens to those yachts?

02:32:14.000 Those very luxurious yachts.

02:32:16.000 That was the first problem I had.

02:32:19.000 Obviously, it's a tragedy, the whole Ukraine war, but I thought, frankly, going around and taking these oligarchs' boats, I was against that.

02:32:33.000 What's weird?

02:32:34.000 You work hard for a boat like that.

02:32:39.000 How do you know how much they had involved in the Russian government's decision?

02:32:46.000 A lot of them had nothing to do.

02:32:49.000 They just earned money in Russia.

02:32:50.000 And they were like, all right, we're going to sanction everybody.

02:32:52.000 We're going to confiscate everything.

02:32:54.000 And it's like, okay.

02:32:55.000 But do you think that it was done so that they could make some sort of a rebellion amongst the oligarchs against Putin?

02:33:03.000 Like show them that they're getting hurt?

02:33:05.000 It could be.

02:33:06.000 I think that...

02:33:08.000 There was a decision made at some point to not try to end this.

02:33:19.000 I don't think they wanted to end this quickly.

02:33:22.000 There was a decision made to bleed the Russian military and isolate Russia and try to...

02:33:32.000 Use this as a way to drain the power and resources of Russia.

02:33:36.000 And you think that by capturing these yachts, it creates internal turmoil.

02:33:41.000 Not only internal turmoil, but you're now limiting the ability...

02:33:49.000 Of these incredibly wealthy people to earn money in countries.

02:33:55.000 You're destroying economic realities.

02:34:00.000 And then you're saying to these people, okay, go figure it out.

02:34:04.000 It's what we said to Russia.

02:34:05.000 But they did, right?

02:34:06.000 They got closer to China.

02:34:07.000 They got closer to Brazil.

02:34:08.000 They traded with India.

02:34:10.000 They started an industrial economy.

02:34:12.000 They started producing their own munitions and things like that.

02:34:19.000 Kind of start to weirdly build out this middle class.

02:34:22.000 This was the worst.

02:34:22.000 I think it's the worst thing.

02:34:23.000 If you don't want a country to keep evading other countries, you certainly wouldn't put them in the position to be stronger while they were doing it.

02:34:33.000 Yeah, it's all very weird, too, with the killing of that pipeline.

02:34:38.000 Aren't more people reliant now on Russian energy because of that?

02:34:42.000 All of this seems to have had the opposite effect.

02:34:44.000 Yeah. All of it seems to have had the opposite.

02:34:47.000 Opposite from intended effect.

02:34:49.000 The whole thing is fucking crazy.

02:34:50.000 It seems odd.

02:34:50.000 It's just crazy that it's going on so long.

02:34:52.000 I was reading this thing about the amount of money foreign countries that have captured these yachts have to pay to maintain them.

02:35:00.000 Why do they have to maintain them?

02:35:02.000 Why can't they just let them sink?

02:35:03.000 Well, because if you let it go, then you can't sell it, and you can't use that money.

02:35:06.000 Right, so they're definitely selling them.

02:35:07.000 That's what one of them says, that the money for one would have gone to Ukraine right here.

02:35:11.000 Okay, seizure came as Washington ramped up sanction enforcement against people close to the Russian president, pressured Moscow to halt its war against Ukraine.

02:35:22.000 So how many more?

02:35:23.000 This one got sanctioned because...

02:35:25.000 The guy apparently paid a million dollars to keep it maintained, and they caught him for doing that, so now he lost his boat.

02:35:32.000 I mean, this is insane.

02:35:35.000 Jesus Christ.

02:35:37.000 He violated U.S. sanctions by making more than $1 million in maintenance payments.

02:35:42.000 We should have a day where if the Russia-Ukraine war has ended, we give all the oligarchs back their boats and they do like a regatta, like a thing where they all, with their boats down in Florida at Palm Beach, and they all just are reunited with their boats.

02:35:54.000 Look at this.

02:35:55.000 Seized yacht costs $7 million a year to maintain.

02:35:58.000 That one was being held in Fiji, so the U.S. took it over because Fiji couldn't afford to take care of it.

02:36:03.000 Look how pretty it is.

02:36:03.000 It's a money pit.

02:36:04.000 How much can you get it for right now?

02:36:06.000 Well, that's the question.

02:36:07.000 300 million.

02:36:08.000 That's tough.

02:36:09.000 Listen. That's a tough one.

02:36:10.000 Maybe this YouTube thing really takes off.

02:36:14.000 600k a month to maintain.

02:36:16.000 That's a tough one.

02:36:17.000 Whoa! It said it's been excessive, justifying an auction.

02:36:22.000 They also said talks to have...

02:36:24.000 How do you say his name?

02:36:26.000 Could Danatov pay for the yacht's upkeep have broken down?

02:36:31.000 Yeah, why would he pay for the upkeep when you're going to fucking steal it from him anyway?

02:36:35.000 Prosecutors say in previous court filings that Kudinatov is acting as the Almeida's straw owner to disguise Kermanov's role and that maintenance payments are essential to preserving a yacht's value.

02:36:52.000 Me and Sam Talent walked around Monaco.

02:36:53.000 We were performing in the UK, and we took a little break to go down to France for two days.

02:36:57.000 And we're walking around Monaco, and we said to the guy, there's all these yachts in Monaco, and we said, Who owns these yachts?

02:37:04.000 And he goes, well, he goes, if you look up online the names of these yachts, you can trace them back to businesses.

02:37:14.000 And you trace that business back to a person.

02:37:17.000 And I said, so that person owns the yacht?

02:37:19.000 He goes, no, you'll never find out who owns these yachts.

02:37:22.000 He goes, no, there's absolutely...

02:37:24.000 He goes, good luck with that.

02:37:25.000 Yeah, it's a show.

02:37:26.000 He goes, it's very hard to find out who owns the yachts.

02:37:28.000 And he goes, even if you think you know, you may not know, or it might be more complicated than you think.

02:37:34.000 There it is.

02:37:34.000 There's Monaco.

02:37:35.000 Wow. They like a super yacht.

02:37:38.000 I mean, it's just such an interesting, just a haven of international crime.

02:37:42.000 So how many people have that kind of money?

02:37:44.000 Just something fun about it.

02:37:46.000 That's what's crazy.

02:37:47.000 These are all $300 million houses that are on wheels on the water.

02:37:52.000 Yeah, this is a haven of international criminality.

02:37:55.000 And look how close they park to each other.

02:37:56.000 No income tax, no property tax.

02:38:00.000 Fun. Yeah, Monaco's fascinating.

02:38:03.000 The amount of wealth that I saw when I was there is crazy.

02:38:05.000 The amount of like expensive cars, they were everywhere.

02:38:08.000 And people were just driving them around like it was a car show.

02:38:11.000 Yeah. All over the street was Ferraris and Lamborghinis and G-wagons.

02:38:16.000 It's unreal.

02:38:17.000 S-classes.

02:38:18.000 It's like everywhere you look, there's Bentleys.

02:38:21.000 Well, those are the people we're talking about.

02:38:23.000 Those are the people who are like, we're living here.

02:38:25.000 Yeah. And you ain't.

02:38:27.000 Yeah. You'll deal with it.

02:38:29.000 And it's a small spot, too.

02:38:30.000 Well, they like it like that.

02:38:32.000 They keep it nice like that.

02:38:35.000 Yeah. And you've got to tap on the window if you want to go in the store.

02:38:38.000 That might be where I do my podcast from eventually.

02:38:41.000 You might have to.

02:38:41.000 Just go to Monaco.

02:38:42.000 It might be the only place.

02:38:43.000 I just flee.

02:38:44.000 Where it doesn't get censored.

02:38:45.000 Just flee.

02:38:45.000 And just live on a tiny boat, like a tugboat.

02:38:48.000 The end is not good.

02:38:48.000 It would have been really rough if Kamala won.

02:38:50.000 They would have clamped down on you.

02:38:52.000 And me.

02:38:52.000 Yeah. And everybody like us.

02:38:53.000 I think.

02:38:54.000 It would have been a fun jail, though.

02:38:56.000 It would have been our own El Salvador in jail.

02:38:59.000 I don't think they would have put us together.

02:39:00.000 But all the tech people would have magically became Democrats.

02:39:03.000 You can just see a couple of these are just gigantic compared to some of the other ones.

02:39:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:39:08.000 Look at the size.

02:39:08.000 By the way, you know what's funny?

02:39:09.000 The regular ones are also massively big.

02:39:12.000 They're huge.

02:39:13.000 But the guys with the regular ones are really jealous of the guy with the super big one.

02:39:17.000 Oh, of course.

02:39:17.000 That's what's crazy.

02:39:19.000 They're all keeping up with the Joneses.

02:39:21.000 And they're all fueling AI to take over.

02:39:25.000 Yeah. Well, I think we figured it all out.

02:39:28.000 We did.

02:39:29.000 I appreciate you always having me here to figure it out.

02:39:32.000 I appreciate you always being here.

02:39:34.000 Of course.

02:39:35.000 Anytime. Thank you, brother.

02:39:36.000 My pleasure.

02:39:37.000 I'm your mother.

02:39:38.000 On Netflix.

02:39:39.000 On Netflix right now.

02:39:40.000 It's awesome.

02:39:41.000 You're the best.

02:39:42.000 Thank you.

02:39:43.000 Appreciate you very much.

02:39:43.000 Appreciate you.

02:39:44.000 All right.

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 19, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2307 - Tim Dillon

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