The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2317 - Cody Tucker

00:00:11.000 What are the odds that I contact you on Instagram and the fucking day you're here is the day your book comes out? 0.99

00:00:20.000 It's pretty unlikely. 0.99

00:00:22.000 Kind of crazy.

00:00:23.000 A little bit.

00:00:24.000 Right?

00:00:24.000 You know, it's kind of like the universe smiled upon us.

00:00:27.000 You know what I mean?

00:00:28.000 It's like synchronicity.

00:00:30.000 If you want to believe in the simulation.

00:00:33.000 Sometimes I do.

00:00:35.000 I'm with you.

00:00:37.000 Sometimes you just see something and you're like, this is a simulation, right?

00:00:41.000 We're not in the real...

00:00:42.000 Yeah.

00:00:43.000 There's a second and a third and a fourth and so on.

00:00:45.000 Sometimes just things seem like God is showing you satire.

00:00:50.000 Like there's just a little fun thrown in there.

00:00:53.000 And a lot of it is on your Instagram page. 1.00

00:00:55.000 I have to tell you, dude, I have wasted so much fucking time, so much time watching your videos going, what the fuck? 0.99

00:01:03.000 Is that real? 0.99

00:01:05.000 And so many things I've learned from it.

00:01:08.000 It's actually, it's very educational, but it's also very fun.

00:01:11.000 Thank you.

00:01:12.000 Cody Tucker, your book is called And Now You Know.

00:01:15.000 And Now You Know.

00:01:16.000 I didn't even know you had a book when I reached out to you.

00:01:18.000 I just said, this guy's got to be interesting.

00:01:21.000 Yeah, I mean, that remains to be seen, I think, but we'll find out together.

00:01:25.000 Well, you are on Instagram.

00:01:27.000 How did you get started doing that type of a page?

00:01:30.000 Because it's very specific.

00:01:31.000 I mean, I've always been interested in, like, random facts, like, you know.

00:01:36.000 Origin stories of words, like movies, all these different things like the dark side of history.

00:01:41.000 Right.

00:01:42.000 And I like telling people those stories and they seem to enjoy it whenever I tell them.

00:01:46.000 So I was like, well, why don't I just like make little videos and clip them, you know, clip them up, make them look all right.

00:01:53.000 What were you doing before you were doing that?

00:01:54.000 I mean, I've always had a podcast.

00:01:56.000 No one watches this thing, so it's alright. 0.99

00:01:59.000 We'll bump that bitch up now. 1.00

00:02:01.000 Well, yeah, it might change now, but yeah, I mean, I wouldn't necessarily recommend watching the podcast, but it exists. 0.97

00:02:08.000 That's hilarious.

00:02:10.000 That is, by the way, so much better than please watch my podcast, like, and subscribe.

00:02:15.000 Whenever a video gets interrupted by like and subscribe, the last thing I want to do is like and subscribe.

00:02:19.000 Like, come on.

00:02:20.000 I mean, I'd rather you just, if you watch it and like it, well, thank you if you don't.

00:02:25.000 Get in line.

00:02:27.000 Well, that's how podcasts get good.

00:02:30.000 Yeah.

00:02:30.000 That's what I started out doing with this.

00:02:33.000 I never advertised this thing once.

00:02:35.000 Yeah.

00:02:35.000 This thing got where it is 100% word of mouth.

00:02:39.000 Yeah.

00:02:40.000 That's it.

00:02:41.000 Yeah.

00:02:41.000 So I started watching pretty early, but it still had a pretty decent following then, but I know you started like...

00:02:49.000 We started in 2009.

00:02:51.000 Yeah, so this would have been like a couple years after that even.

00:02:54.000 But when I started, you know, me and my friend Brian, when we started, we weren't even thinking it was a podcast.

00:02:59.000 We had already done these things where we'd stream live from the green room at comedy clubs back when it was on Justin TV, which became what, Jamie?

00:03:10.000 Twitch. 0.54

00:03:11.000 So we would just be, you know, like Joey would be talking shit in the green room and we'd be having fun and, you know, we'd just film it. 0.99

00:03:16.000 Just for fun. 0.99

00:03:17.000 Gotcha.

00:03:17.000 And then I had a few friends that started doing internet shows.

00:03:21.000 Tom Green was the big one.

00:03:23.000 Because Tom Green had it all set up at his house.

00:03:26.000 He's incredible.

00:03:26.000 Oh, he's the best.

00:03:27.000 He's such a sweetheart, too.

00:03:30.000 Everything you would hope he'd be, that's who he is. 0.99

00:03:32.000 Great, great fucking guy. 0.99

00:03:34.000 And, you know, like really... 1.00

00:03:37.000 A forward thinker early on.

00:03:38.000 He was like, I think I can just do this for my house.

00:03:41.000 But it was too early.

00:03:42.000 Like, this is 2007 and the internet sucked.

00:03:45.000 It wasn't ready yet.

00:03:47.000 You know, no one had smartphones yet.

00:03:49.000 It was like, but he was...

00:03:51.000 Patient Zero, I think.

00:03:53.000 Gotcha.

00:03:53.000 Him and then there was this Opie and Anthony show that I used to do.

00:03:57.000 Oh, they were amazing.

00:03:58.000 They were amazing.

00:03:59.000 But Anthony Cumia started doing this thing live from the compound in his basement where he would do karaoke with a green screen holding a machine gun.

00:04:08.000 That's incredible. 0.99

00:04:08.000 He's nuts. 0.99

00:04:09.000 He's out of his mind. 1.00

00:04:10.000 And he had like beers on tap so they'd be getting hammered.

00:04:13.000 He's playing video games. 0.96

00:04:14.000 He's a maniac.

00:04:15.000 And I was like, that looks like so much fun.

00:04:18.000 I was like, he just has a studio that he set up in his basement.

00:04:21.000 Yeah. 0.91

00:04:22.000 And so we just started fucking around with the most bare of equipment. 0.99

00:04:26.000 It was a fucking laptop webcam. 0.99

00:04:29.000 And we had like a USB mic. 1.00

00:04:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:33.000 One of them blue mics, the big stupid silver ones. 1.00

00:04:37.000 We had one of those. 1.00

00:04:37.000 It's like $30 at Walmart. 1.00

00:04:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:39.000 That's how we started.

00:04:40.000 And then, you know, we just kept doing it.

00:04:44.000 Telling people not to go to your podcast is classic.

00:04:47.000 That's very fun.

00:04:48.000 Yeah, that's usually my thing.

00:04:50.000 Because there are people that do watch it, and I think they like it, and I like those people.

00:04:55.000 I'm glad those people are around, but it's not something that should ever become popular.

00:05:01.000 Well, you know, there's two schools of thought today with the youngins like yourself. 0.58

00:05:05.000 It's like, just get famous at any cost. 0.99

00:05:09.000 Get on TikTok, show your dick on OnlyFans, whatever you have to do. 0.98

00:05:13.000 Or not, right? 1.00

00:05:15.000 Or fuck that. 1.00

00:05:16.000 And you're in the fuck that category. 1.00

00:05:18.000 Yeah, I could care less about having anyone know who the fuck I am. 1.00

00:05:22.000 Which, granted, here I am. 0.99

00:05:24.000 I know, it's nuts.

00:05:25.000 But that's also why you're here, right?

00:05:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:29.000 That's also why your book came out today.

00:05:30.000 It's like, there's a synchronicity going on.

00:05:33.000 Something.

00:05:34.000 Something's happening.

00:05:35.000 Things are crossing over that I didn't...

00:05:38.000 So you just...

00:05:39.000 You did your podcast, and in those stories that you would tell on the podcast, where you would drop some crazy information, then you decided to start clipping them up.

00:05:47.000 Exactly.

00:05:48.000 So I would end it with just like, oh, here's some half-ass history, which is what I called the segment.

00:05:53.000 And then I was like, oh, here's a half-ass history segment. 0.99

00:05:57.000 I'd just ramble about some bullshit from Napoleon or something. 0.99

00:06:00.000 I binged him today. 0.99

00:06:03.000 Because, you know, I was getting ready for you to come in.

00:06:05.000 It was fun.

00:06:05.000 No, it was fun.

00:06:06.000 It was fun.

00:06:06.000 You really freaked me out with the whole Outlaw Josie Wales thing.

00:06:09.000 Like, I loved that movie.

00:06:11.000 And now I'm like, oh, no.

00:06:13.000 Yeah, I can't watch it anymore.

00:06:14.000 Oh, no.

00:06:15.000 He's the guy who wrote the book that turned into the...

00:06:17.000 I mean...

00:06:17.000 Tell the story because it's so crazy.

00:06:19.000 So, yeah, there was a fellow named Asa Carter. 0.96

00:06:22.000 So Asa Carter is this massive white supremacist.

00:06:25.000 Like, he was in the KKK and then left the KKK because they weren't... 0.97

00:06:29.000 Racist enough. 0.94

00:06:31.000 He was like, y 'all don't hate black people way more. 0.98

00:06:34.000 Like, y 'all should be hating these people way more than you should. 0.95

00:06:36.000 So he made his own version, like a splinter group of the KKK.

00:06:41.000 And, I mean, he was part of, like, he would show up to, like, Nat King Cole concerts, try to drag them off the stage, you know?

00:06:48.000 Oh, my God.

00:06:49.000 And he became a speechwriter for George Wallace.

00:06:53.000 Not the comic, but, you know, the governor of Alabama, George Wallace, who was, you know, the segregation now, segregation forever. 1.00

00:07:01.000 As you said, a massive piece of shit. 1.00

00:07:03.000 Massive. 1.00

00:07:04.000 In the video. 0.97

00:07:05.000 Horrible human being. 1.00

00:07:06.000 I mean, yeah, just an all-around knucklehead. 0.99

00:07:09.000 So he's a speechwriter for that guy. 0.59

00:07:10.000 He helped write that speech, the segregation now, segregation forever.

00:07:15.000 He was a co-writer of that speech.

00:07:18.000 Things kind of fell apart from him. 0.88

00:07:19.000 George Wallace was like, you're too racist for me, buddy.

00:07:22.000 Like, I just don't want him to go to school with my kids.

00:07:25.000 Like, I don't want them to not exist.

00:07:26.000 Oh, my God.

00:07:27.000 And, yeah, so he moved to Florida, changed his name kind of, I think, to Forrest Carter, I think is the way he changed his name to, and started writing books.

00:07:37.000 One of them was the rebel outlaw Josie Wales, which, you know, Clint Eastwood turned into.

00:07:42.000 God.

00:07:43.000 I guess back then there was no Google.

00:07:45.000 So a guy could do something like that?

00:07:48.000 You would never know.

00:07:49.000 How would you know?

00:07:50.000 Well, that's how Stephen King had Richard Bachman, remember?

00:07:52.000 Exactly.

00:07:53.000 He wrote Running Man.

00:07:55.000 Yes.

00:07:55.000 He wrote Running Man as Richard Bachman and other things, too.

00:07:58.000 But, yeah.

00:07:59.000 What is it?

00:07:59.000 Was it The Dark Half?

00:08:00.000 Is that the other one that I really liked?

00:08:02.000 Is that Richard?

00:08:03.000 I don't know if that was a Bachman.

00:08:04.000 I think that was a Bachman.

00:08:05.000 Was it The Talisman?

00:08:06.000 He had a bunch of them that were great.

00:08:08.000 That guy was so...

00:08:09.000 Cocaine worked so well for him.

00:08:12.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

00:08:13.000 I mean, if there's ever a dude, and I know he's clean and sober now, and God bless him, and I feel terrible that the guy got hit by a fucking van, like the whole deal. 0.99

00:08:20.000 It's crazy. 0.97

00:08:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:22.000 Is that?

00:08:22.000 The Dark Half, Stephen King adaptation.

00:08:24.000 Oh, so what's Stephen King?

00:08:25.000 It wasn't Bachman?

00:08:27.000 Well...

00:08:28.000 Oh, another pseudonym!

00:08:30.000 Jesus Christ!

00:08:32.000 That's how prolific that guy was!

00:08:34.000 I had no idea he had another one.

00:08:35.000 He's so prolific, he has extra pseudonyms.

00:08:37.000 He has a pseudonym for a pseudonym.

00:08:39.000 Bro, there's not a guy who has ever lived who has made more bangers.

00:08:43.000 More just...

00:08:45.000 Follows Thad Beaumont, a writer who achieves fame.

00:08:48.000 So it's about, that's the pseudonym of the guy in the book.

00:08:50.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

00:08:51.000 So now, because if you look on the poster, it says Stephen King's name.

00:08:54.000 Yeah, I think it's just the Google that the AI gets.

00:08:56.000 Right, but I think that's the actual, is that the trailer for the film, or the poster for the film?

00:09:02.000 A writer who achieves fame.

00:09:03.000 George Romero made the movie.

00:09:05.000 Yeah, is that what that image is, though, or is that the image from the book?

00:09:08.000 Timothy Hutton plays George Stark, so...

00:09:10.000 No, no, I know that, but is that image, is that from the book?

00:09:13.000 That's the poster.

00:09:14.000 For the movie?

00:09:15.000 That's the movie, George A. Romero.

00:09:16.000 Yeah, see, that's why it says Stephen King is because they're selling it.

00:09:20.000 Yeah, you'd have to find a picture of the book and see if, like, the book says...

00:09:24.000 But bottom line is...

00:09:26.000 They all say Stephen King.

00:09:27.000 Well, why would you change it now?

00:09:29.000 It's like, see if the one that he wrote is Bachman for sure.

00:09:34.000 What did he write as Bachman for sure?

00:09:36.000 Well, Running Man was for sure Richard Bachman.

00:09:37.000 Okay.

00:09:38.000 Let's see if Running Man says Stephen King.

00:09:40.000 And I think Talisman.

00:09:42.000 I think that was one that also...

00:09:44.000 He had a fake picture and everything?

00:09:45.000 That's amazing.

00:09:46.000 That's so wild!

00:09:48.000 I wonder who that guy is.

00:09:49.000 Richard Manuel, a builder and friend of Stephen King's literary agent.

00:09:54.000 That's incredible.

00:09:55.000 He's just a regular guy.

00:09:56.000 Just a guy.

00:09:56.000 Just some dude.

00:09:57.000 And Stephen King's like, hey, bro, I'm going to make you famous.

00:10:03.000 That's kind of crazy.

00:10:04.000 Oh, he wrote Thinner, too.

00:10:05.000 When he inspired it by Bachman-Turner Overdrive, which is amazing.

00:10:09.000 That's hilarious.

00:10:10.000 BTO, one of the greatest bands of all time.

00:10:12.000 So he did write the dark half.

00:10:14.000 The surname Stark was later used in a King—oh, no.

00:10:17.000 No, no.

00:10:18.000 Okay.

00:10:19.000 Hold on.

00:10:20.000 Is he a Richard Stark?

00:10:22.000 Richard Stark is another one?

00:10:24.000 No.

00:10:25.000 No, no, no.

00:10:25.000 Richard is a tribute to author.

00:10:28.000 Got it.

00:10:29.000 Did he write Ben S. Bachman?

00:10:31.000 He did.

00:10:32.000 There should be like a bibliography, I wonder.

00:10:34.000 At the last moment he changed it.

00:10:35.000 At the last moment he changed it to Richard Bachman.

00:10:37.000 But then there was.

00:10:38.000 Gus Pillsbury was a different one he was going to use.

00:10:40.000 Oh my god, that's hilarious.

00:10:42.000 At the last moment he changed it to Bachman.

00:10:44.000 So Bachman was the dark half. 0.84

00:10:46.000 If I was a porn star, my name would be Gus Pillsbury.

00:10:49.000 Or was it The Dark Half? 0.67

00:10:50.000 It says thinner.

00:10:51.000 They're bringing up The Dark Half, so it has to be there. 0.88

00:10:53.000 Stark was later used to surname Stark.

00:10:55.000 I don't know.

00:10:56.000 Either way, this Stephen King.

00:10:58.000 Let's forget about it.

00:10:58.000 But I think Running Man, I'm pretty sure Running Man is one of them.

00:11:01.000 He wrote so many good books that he's like, I'm giving these people too many books.

00:11:05.000 Let me write some under a fake name, Mom, the biggest book-selling fiction guy in the world.

00:11:10.000 It's insane.

00:11:11.000 Have you ever looked at just like...

00:11:13.000 The first five books.

00:11:15.000 The Dark Half is about his using of a student, and maybe that's why you're thinking of it.

00:11:20.000 Oh, interesting.

00:11:21.000 Oh, well that makes sense.

00:11:22.000 That does make sense.

00:11:24.000 At the top it said Running Man.

00:11:28.000 The Dark Half book is great.

00:11:30.000 I've never read that one. 0.98

00:11:31.000 It's so funny that King was able to pull this off, because how many of his fucking story is about a writer who lives in Maine? 0.99

00:11:40.000 It's so crazy! 0.99

00:11:42.000 The guy just picks his home state, a writer, picks his profession, and then insanity ensues.

00:11:48.000 It's all like a writer in Maine.

00:11:50.000 And they're all based on just things that are happening to him.

00:11:55.000 I can't remember which book it is that's about him going through alcohol DTs.

00:12:01.000 I can't remember.

00:12:02.000 Let's put up the bookography.

00:12:03.000 His bookography, whatever you would call it.

00:12:06.000 Bibliography?

00:12:07.000 Bibliography.

00:12:08.000 If you look at his bibliography, it's insane.

00:12:11.000 He wrote so many bangers.

00:12:13.000 Carrie's number one, and then it's like Carrie, Salem's Lot, The Shining, a couple other, It, and then Christine, which...

00:12:20.000 Yeah, I didn't enjoy the dark half movie.

00:12:23.000 I hate that cliche of the book's better because it's never better because you can see the movie.

00:12:28.000 Right.

00:12:28.000 But they never nail it.

00:12:29.000 It's just too hard.

00:12:31.000 Well, The Shining kind of does because it's being done by Stanley Kubrick.

00:12:35.000 Right, but he hated it.

00:12:36.000 Yeah, he hated it because he changed it.

00:12:36.000 Which is so nuts.

00:12:38.000 Well, he said that he thought Nicholson turned crazy right away.

00:12:41.000 And he wanted it to be a very gradual thing.

00:12:44.000 You know who he wanted?

00:12:45.000 Who?

00:12:45.000 Robin Williams.

00:12:47.000 Oh, my God.

00:12:47.000 He would have nailed it.

00:12:48.000 Robin Williams or Harrison Ford.

00:12:50.000 Bro, have you ever seen Robin Williams in that 24-hour photo movie where he plays a psycho?

00:12:55.000 Oh, that's it.

00:12:55.000 That's it, dude.

00:12:56.000 That movie is so good.

00:12:57.000 Oh, my God.

00:12:58.000 It's insane.

00:12:59.000 He's so good in it.

00:13:00.000 He might be one of the greatest actors of all time.

00:13:02.000 Like, a top ten. 0.69

00:13:03.000 Crazy how good he is in that movie because you just really believe he's a psycho.

00:13:07.000 Yeah, because he's so lovable at first, but there's all these little signs that, like...

00:13:12.000 Keep this guy away from your kids. 0.99

00:13:13.000 There's layers.

00:13:15.000 There's layers to that story.

00:13:16.000 Yeah.

00:13:17.000 That's such a great movie.

00:13:19.000 He was a bummer when he died, man. 1.00

00:13:21.000 That one bummed me out.

00:13:23.000 Yeah, I've only cried a couple times when a famous person died.

00:13:26.000 That's one of them.

00:13:27.000 I broke down.

00:13:29.000 Heath Ledger and Steve Irwin were the others.

00:13:31.000 Yeah, that was a bummer.

00:13:32.000 Yeah, Steve Irwin especially.

00:13:33.000 Chadwick Boseman from...

00:13:37.000 Black Panther and...

00:13:39.000 What else was he in?

00:13:40.000 He was in 42, played Jackie Robinson.

00:13:42.000 The heartbreaking one, there's an interview with him where he's talking to that woman and he says, I'm already dead.

00:13:48.000 And she doesn't know what he's saying because he didn't tell anybody.

00:13:51.000 The dude went through the mill.

00:13:53.000 He was filming the movie while he was battling cancer.

00:13:56.000 While everyone was making fun of him for looking skinny and creepy looking.

00:14:00.000 It's like... 0.53

00:14:01.000 Crazy.

00:14:02.000 Yeah.

00:14:03.000 Crazy.

00:14:03.000 Which...

00:14:04.000 It is kind of like...

00:14:05.000 A gangster way to go.

00:14:06.000 It is.

00:14:07.000 So did Norm Macdonald.

00:14:09.000 He did the same thing.

00:14:10.000 Norm Macdonald didn't tell anybody that he had cancer.

00:14:13.000 Just went up to Canada and died.

00:14:15.000 He's battling it for years.

00:14:17.000 He told no one.

00:14:19.000 It's one of those things that you can tell when you look back.

00:14:21.000 When you look back and watch episodes of his show, Norm's show, and you're like, oh.

00:14:27.000 I know.

00:14:28.000 You see the puffiness and the brown eyes.

00:14:31.000 His eyes look...

00:14:32.000 Very tired.

00:14:33.000 That, to me, that's the funniest human being of all time.

00:14:36.000 He's one of the all-time greats.

00:14:37.000 Yeah.

00:14:37.000 For sure.

00:14:38.000 I'm sure you met him quite a bit, I would imagine.

00:14:40.000 I accidentally sat next to him twice on airplanes.

00:14:45.000 Totally accidentally.

00:14:46.000 What a person.

00:14:46.000 And we were already friends.

00:14:47.000 Yeah.

00:14:48.000 So it was super cool.

00:14:49.000 Like, I knew him from the clubs, and I knew him from being around.

00:14:52.000 And my good friend Adam was a good friend of his.

00:14:55.000 He used to do that show that they did together.

00:14:57.000 Adam Meagot?

00:14:57.000 Yeah.

00:14:57.000 Adam Meagot.

00:14:58.000 Okay.

00:14:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:59.000 Who's the talent coordinator at the mothership.

00:15:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:15:02.000 So I'd known Norm forever, and then one time I was flying back from somewhere, and I sit down, and then Norm plops right next to him like, dude, like, what are the odds?

00:15:12.000 And then we're having the most fun.

00:15:14.000 It was the most fun.

00:15:15.000 That's awesome.

00:15:15.000 But the second time was even crazier, because Norm sits down next to me.

00:15:19.000 We're having a great time.

00:15:20.000 Yeah.

00:15:21.000 Just laughing, and he's just so fun. 1.00

00:15:23.000 We're talking all kinds of crazy shit. 0.99

00:15:25.000 And he tells me, yeah, I quit smoking. 0.99

00:15:28.000 And fucking hard to do, man, but I quit. 0.96

00:15:30.000 I feel so much better. 0.98

00:15:32.000 I'm so glad I did.

00:15:32.000 I mean, so bad for you.

00:15:34.000 I go, yeah, good for you, dude. 1.00

00:15:36.000 Fuck those cigarettes, right? 1.00

00:15:37.000 So we land, and he walks straight into the store and buys a pack of cigarettes and is literally lighting it before he gets out the door. 1.00

00:15:49.000 And I go, what are you doing?

00:15:50.000 I thought you quit.

00:15:51.000 And he goes, yeah, but all that talking about cigarettes made me...

00:15:54.000 We want one.

00:15:56.000 I mean, he did quit for a little bit, and then when he landed...

00:16:01.000 I know a lot of people have quit, and a lot of people...

00:16:05.000 I mean, they keep pointing to, like... 0.99

00:16:07.000 It's like everyone's playing Russian roulette with fucking lung cancer. 0.99

00:16:11.000 It's so crazy. 1.00

00:16:12.000 You're playing, like, 80% of people don't even get cancer, bro.

00:16:17.000 Which, I'll take those off.

00:16:18.000 I mean, look, I'll tell you.

00:16:20.000 Smoking just looks so cool.

00:16:22.000 Smoking cigarettes.

00:16:24.000 I smoke cigarettes, which I need to not do that.

00:16:27.000 But God, I do feel cool.

00:16:30.000 It's also, there's an... 0.96

00:16:31.000 I don't even give a fuck about my health. 0.93

00:16:34.000 I'm out here thinking. 0.98

00:16:35.000 Well, I don't have to be smoking a cigarette for people to realize that.

00:16:39.000 Nobody's looking at me like, Jesus.

00:16:41.000 But that's like accelerating your demise.

00:16:44.000 Like purposely accelerating your demise for a head rush.

00:16:49.000 I had to do this thing once.

00:16:52.000 A buddy of mine had this sketch show.

00:16:55.000 And they had this sketch that they were putting together, this idea.

00:16:59.000 And he asked me to be like this troubled...

00:17:02.000 Poet guy.

00:17:03.000 And I said, okay, what do you think I should do?

00:17:05.000 And he goes, I think you should be like smoking cigarettes.

00:17:08.000 You should be like this guy just smoking cigarettes and talking.

00:17:11.000 And I'm like, okay, okay, okay.

00:17:12.000 That's right, yeah.

00:17:13.000 So I never smoked before.

00:17:15.000 And that day I probably smoked like 15 cigarettes. 1.00

00:17:18.000 I felt like fucking dog shit. 1.00

00:17:20.000 Oh my God. 1.00

00:17:21.000 My hands were shaking.

00:17:23.000 And my friend Adam Ferrara, who's a comedian who was doing this with me, he smoked and he gave me his cigarettes.

00:17:29.000 And I remember thinking, how do you do this?

00:17:31.000 How are you doing this to yourself every day?

00:17:34.000 This is so crazy.

00:17:34.000 In what time span do you think, the 15 cigs?

00:17:38.000 I guess we were doing it all throughout the day, so it was probably four or five hours.

00:17:43.000 It was quite a bit.

00:17:44.000 I mean, even for like a...

00:17:45.000 Because I don't smoke like...

00:17:46.000 I'm not like a pack a day or something like that.

00:17:48.000 Well, that's good.

00:17:49.000 Probably a pack every three days.

00:17:51.000 Oh, that's not too bad.

00:17:52.000 But it's still terrible for me.

00:17:53.000 It's still not good.

00:17:54.000 I mean, I try to justify it in my head.

00:17:56.000 I'm like, yeah, but I'm not sitting out there.

00:17:58.000 I really do enjoy one right before I go on stage.

00:18:00.000 I really do.

00:18:01.000 You smoke a cigarette for you?

00:18:03.000 It's a nicotine thing, yeah.

00:18:04.000 It's like you can get nicotine from a...

00:18:07.000 But it's the delivery methods that's different.

00:18:10.000 There's something about smoking it.

00:18:12.000 And cigars is similar, too.

00:18:14.000 Smoking the nicotine, it's a very different thing than nicotine pouches.

00:18:20.000 I've never done the gum.

00:18:21.000 But there's a benefit to nicotine.

00:18:23.000 It's just a delivery method that's what's terrible for you.

00:18:27.000 Yeah, I don't think nicotine's ever really been proven to just be horrible for you. 0.98

00:18:31.000 It actually is neuroprotective, which, like, I love saying those words because I don't really know what the fuck I'm saying, but it sounds like you're smart. 0.92

00:18:40.000 You know, Jillian Michaels was in here the other day, and she was talking about it. 0.93

00:18:44.000 She chews gum and people are like, oh, you're trying to quit smoking?

00:18:48.000 She's like, no, it's actually good for you.

00:18:50.000 But most people aren't aware of that.

00:18:52.000 They just think of cigarette smoking equals cancer, equals nicotine, equals you're doing something bad.

00:18:58.000 Well, because the nicotine obviously gets you partly addicted and then makes you smoke more cigarettes, which is horrible.

00:19:04.000 Yes.

00:19:05.000 There's kind of like some blame you could put towards nicotine in that sense.

00:19:10.000 In that sense, yeah.

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00:20:31.000 Well, the real issue is that many cigarettes, they add a bunch of stuff to make them more addictive.

00:20:38.000 Well, right.

00:20:38.000 That's the issue, is that if they would take all that out, they wouldn't...

00:20:42.000 I mean, obviously, it's so bad you shouldn't be breathing smoke.

00:20:44.000 Yeah, it's like that's natural spirits, right?

00:20:46.000 Those are the ones.

00:20:47.000 Or American spirits.

00:20:47.000 American spirits, yeah.

00:20:49.000 But did you ever see that Russell Crowe movie, The Insider, where he plays the scientist?

00:20:54.000 Jeffrey Wigand.

00:20:54.000 Right.

00:20:55.000 Is that who the character was that he's playing?

00:20:58.000 That's who he's playing, yeah.

00:20:58.000 It's Jeffrey Wigand.

00:20:59.000 Yeah.

00:21:00.000 That's cool.

00:21:01.000 That is so crazy that they did that.

00:21:03.000 Yeah, that makes you so mad when you watch it.

00:21:05.000 You're like, you knew.

00:21:06.000 You knew and you tricked people by making it more addictive.

00:21:11.000 Like, with chemicals.

00:21:13.000 Yeah, look how much...

00:21:13.000 That's crazy.

00:21:15.000 Look how much sugar's in food. 1.00

00:21:16.000 But here's my...

00:21:17.000 Why is it okay to do that with cigarettes, but they would never be okay to do that with cheeseburgers? 0.97

00:21:21.000 If we found out that McDonald's was putting fentanyl in the cheeseburgers and made you come back and eat more cheeseburgers there, we'd be like, no fucking way. 0.99

00:21:27.000 That's crazy. 0.99

00:21:28.000 You're making it more addictive?

00:21:30.000 Yeah.

00:21:30.000 That's crazy.

00:21:30.000 You can't do that?

00:21:32.000 The sugar that's in it, it does the same thing.

00:21:35.000 Sort of.

00:21:35.000 I mean, kind of?

00:21:36.000 Sort of.

00:21:38.000 Yeah, I would say it does.

00:21:39.000 But it doesn't...

00:21:41.000 I'm sorry, killing you.

00:21:43.000 Well, it kind of is.

00:21:44.000 I don't know.

00:21:45.000 It kind of can.

00:21:47.000 It kind of can.

00:21:48.000 It's like very low-dose poison.

00:21:50.000 Essentially, if you have a very good diet and you occasionally have a quarter-pounder, you're going to live.

00:21:56.000 You know what I mean?

00:21:57.000 It's a low-dose poison.

00:21:59.000 Your body can filter out most of that stuff.

00:22:00.000 The real problem seems to be when it becomes the primary focus of what you eat. 0.96

00:22:07.000 Could you just get in a bunch of inflammation-causing bullshit that your body doesn't know how to get rid of? 0.93

00:22:13.000 Your body's like, what is this? 0.99

00:22:15.000 You're feeding me.

00:22:16.000 But God, it feels so good.

00:22:18.000 So good.

00:22:19.000 Jesus.

00:22:20.000 I mean, in the moment, it is.

00:22:22.000 That's heaven on earth.

00:22:24.000 I had a quarter pounder once a couple years ago, and I haven't had one.

00:22:28.000 If I do go to McDonald's, I always eat filet of fishes. 0.99

00:22:30.000 I love those fucking things. 1.00

00:22:31.000 You do? 1.00

00:22:31.000 I love those things. 1.00

00:22:33.000 They're so good.

00:22:34.000 That's weird, man.

00:22:35.000 No, because I can't lie to myself and pretend that's a cheeseburger.

00:22:40.000 You can lie and say that that's fish?

00:22:42.000 Yes.

00:22:43.000 That ain't fish.

00:22:44.000 It's a thing.

00:22:45.000 It's whatever it is.

00:22:45.000 It's a sweet bun and a delicious, salty, fish-like thing in the center with that tartar sauce.

00:22:51.000 It's just yummy.

00:22:53.000 I'm not trying to trick myself.

00:22:54.000 You don't have to justify it to me.

00:22:56.000 I don't particularly like the taste of those kind of burgers.

00:23:01.000 I like a good snack.

00:23:06.000 You can't go wrong, man.

00:23:11.000 It's the Chick-fil-A burgers.

00:23:13.000 You can't go wrong.

00:23:13.000 If you don't like them, I don't like you.

00:23:16.000 How about that?

00:23:17.000 Do you like Whataburger?

00:23:18.000 It's okay.

00:23:19.000 It's horrible.

00:23:20.000 It's not.

00:23:21.000 People want to compare it to In-N-Out.

00:23:22.000 Like, Texas people get crazy.

00:23:24.000 Like, you're getting crazy.

00:23:25.000 This is how we had a civil war.

00:23:27.000 Like, you gotta look at things realistically.

00:23:29.000 Now, in that war, I'm taking the Whataburger people over the In-N-Out people. 1.00

00:23:32.000 For sure.

00:23:33.000 100%.

00:23:34.000 The In-N-Out people are not armed. 0.98

00:23:36.000 No, those Whataburger bubbas are... 0.52

00:23:39.000 I mean, they started out in the wrong state for guns.

00:23:42.000 That's the state that's telling people that if someone breaks into your house, you should flee. 0.65

00:23:48.000 You shouldn't tell them to get out and shoot them.

00:23:51.000 Get out of your own house.

00:23:52.000 Yeah, that's his now. 0.94

00:23:53.000 You should gather up your child and run up the hill behind your house and flee and hope they don't shoot you in the back.

00:23:58.000 That's a good idea. 1.00

00:24:02.000 It's like that piece of shit speechwriter. 1.00

00:24:05.000 Asa Carter? 1.00

00:24:06.000 Yeah.

00:24:07.000 There's going to be nutty on both sides.

00:24:11.000 There's going to be nutty on the left and nutty on the right.

00:24:15.000 And it's up to us, which is like most people are just reasonable.

00:24:21.000 Reasonable, in the center, live and let live.

00:24:25.000 Have you had like an ethic for this country?

00:24:29.000 What are we about?

00:24:29.000 We're supposed to be about freedom, live and let live.

00:24:32.000 But the problem is the people on the far crazy screaming left and the people on the far crazy screaming right are all fucking losers. 1.00

00:24:43.000 And those fucking losers make you be connected with them and all their stupidity. 1.00

00:24:50.000 It poisons all the ideas that they agree with. 1.00

00:24:53.000 Right.

00:24:54.000 On both sides.

00:24:55.000 And they're so much louder so you think there's more of them when in reality it's like, what, 5% probably of each side?

00:25:01.000 Exactly.

00:25:02.000 I don't even think it's 5%.

00:25:04.000 They're just the ones that are online all day long.

00:25:07.000 And then on top of that you get a bunch of people who are paid to do it.

00:25:11.000 So it's like, oh my god.

00:25:13.000 When you see tweets, like people get...

00:25:15.000 Busted all the time now, these air quotes influencers.

00:25:19.000 They'll tweet something, and then you'll see like 30 versions of the same tweet with the same wording.

00:25:25.000 Like, what is going on?

00:25:27.000 That's hilarious.

00:25:28.000 Like, for now, forever, I'll never listen to you again.

00:25:31.000 That's amazing.

00:25:32.000 And there's, yeah.

00:25:33.000 On both sides.

00:25:34.000 That's so funny.

00:25:35.000 It's not a left-wing thing.

00:25:36.000 It's not a right-wing thing. 0.99

00:25:37.000 I see it with fucking everything. 0.99

00:25:39.000 It's like, there's like large-scale manipulation going on that's like really nuts to see. 1.00

00:25:46.000 I like it.

00:25:46.000 Did you see about that Reddit dead internet thing?

00:25:49.000 Reddit dead internet?

00:25:50.000 I don't think so.

00:25:51.000 Jamie, do you know about this?

00:25:52.000 I believe it might be a lawsuit.

00:25:55.000 So this company used a bunch of chatbots.

00:26:01.000 I believe it was on Reddit.

00:26:03.000 I just sent it to someone.

00:26:04.000 I'll find it if you can't find it.

00:26:06.000 But I think...

00:26:07.000 I forget what the argument was about, but essentially they're getting in trouble for facilitating these fake arguments like as an experiment.

00:26:15.000 Oh.

00:26:17.000 That's wild.

00:26:18.000 For sure countries are doing that.

00:26:20.000 Reddit threatens to sue researchers who ran a dead internet AI experiment on its site.

00:26:24.000 Deeply raw on a both moral and legal level.

00:26:29.000 That's not good.

00:26:31.000 So this is what they did.

00:26:34.000 Changemyview is the subreddit.

00:26:36.000 Long been a contentious place for Reddit users to post an opinion and understand other people's perspective.

00:26:42.000 Forum filled with fiery but largely civil debates covering everything from the role of political activism.

00:26:48.000 To the dangers of social media and echo chambers.

00:26:51.000 Okay.

00:26:52.000 Lately, though, not every user posting on the forum has been a real human.

00:26:56.000 As 404 Media reported this week, University of Zurich researchers dispatched an army of...

00:27:01.000 Boy, Zurich?

00:27:02.000 That's not a good place to do it from, guys.

00:27:04.000 You shouldn't be involved in...

00:27:06.000 No, the Swiss are... 1.00

00:27:07.000 Look at you sketchy! 0.90

00:27:08.000 Yeah.

00:27:08.000 Research dispatched an army of AI chatbots to debate human users on the subreddit in a secret experiment designed to investigate whether the tech could be used to change people's minds.

00:27:20.000 The optics were horrendous with bots claiming to be characters, including a survivor of sexual assault and a black man who opposes the Black Lives Matter movement.

00:27:29.000 Worse yet, the AI models scoured the post history of users they were applying to in order to be as convincing as possible.

00:27:37.000 Basically a formalized trial run of the dead internet theory that much of the internet is already...

00:27:43.000 You know about that theory?

00:27:45.000 Huh?

00:27:46.000 The AI dead internet theory.

00:27:49.000 So the idea is that AI becomes sentient and completely fakes the internet.

00:27:57.000 Fakes the internet?

00:27:58.000 Yeah, pull it up, Jamie.

00:28:00.000 I don't know if it explained it in that article.

00:28:02.000 But there was a link in that article when it got to dead internet theory.

00:28:06.000 There was actually a link.

00:28:08.000 It was right there.

00:28:10.000 Where is it?

00:28:11.000 Scroll down a little bit.

00:28:14.000 No, it didn't have a link.

00:28:15.000 The link was actually about it passing the Turing test, which is, it already did.

00:28:19.000 Right, right, right.

00:28:20.000 Which is...

00:28:20.000 Goes back to 2016.

00:28:22.000 Oh, did the internet die in 2016?

00:28:24.000 There's an online community who thinks so. 0.88

00:28:25.000 There's a lot of kooks, like people with schizophrenia, that get things right. 0.93

00:28:29.000 Yeah, that is kind of the problem, is they're not always wrong.

00:28:33.000 Well, eventually they're right.

00:28:34.000 Like, Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber...

00:28:37.000 You know, that guy, his whole thing was that technology was going to overtake the human race.

00:28:44.000 Right.

00:28:44.000 And I think he's right.

00:28:46.000 Yeah, you know, he wasn't necessarily wrong.

00:28:48.000 He was just wrong to be blowing people up. 1.00

00:28:51.000 Oh, well, he was really fucked up. 0.99

00:28:53.000 Did you ever see the Netflix documentary where they go over his life when he was a baby, when they left him in the crib, and he never got touched for, like, months? 0.99

00:29:03.000 Which immediately...

00:29:06.000 Permanent damage. 1.00

00:29:07.000 You're screwed. 1.00

00:29:07.000 You can't fix that. 1.00

00:29:08.000 Yeah.

00:29:08.000 That's how you get those wide eyes, you know, where that's how you tell someone's crazy.

00:29:12.000 And then he gets in the Harvard LSD studies where they humiliate him while he's on acid.

00:29:16.000 Yeah.

00:29:17.000 Yeah, because he was part of the MKUltra.

00:29:18.000 Like, he had that professor that was, like, recruiting impressionable but highly intelligent young men.

00:29:25.000 How crazy is that program?

00:29:28.000 MKUltra's wild.

00:29:29.000 Wild.

00:29:29.000 That is one of the most interesting.

00:29:32.000 The CIA in general, this is a rabbit hole of just the craziest things I've ever seen.

00:29:37.000 But all the Manson stuff, which I'm...

00:29:40.000 Obsessed with Charles Manson.

00:29:41.000 So all that stuff is...

00:29:43.000 Oh, the Manson stuff's crazy.

00:29:44.000 The CIA stuff's not even a rabbit hole.

00:29:45.000 It's like one of them labyrinths that they find in Turkey.

00:29:49.000 Like 2,000 people could live underground.

00:29:51.000 You're like, who built this? 1.00

00:29:53.000 What the fuck is this? 0.99

00:29:54.000 How long has this been going on? 1.00

00:29:55.000 Like the French catacombs where people get lost every day.

00:29:59.000 If you go down to the CIA rabbit hole, you'll find a city.

00:30:05.000 Civilizations.

00:30:05.000 And then you have to think, okay, but also Russia has the same sort of operation going for Russia.

00:30:12.000 Right.

00:30:13.000 Right?

00:30:13.000 Every country has them.

00:30:15.000 Yeah, everybody has the CIA, KGB.

00:30:17.000 So they have to exist.

00:30:18.000 Secret police, all that.

00:30:20.000 Let's all get rid of the CIA, and then what?

00:30:22.000 We get taken over completely by Russia and China? 0.82

00:30:24.000 It's like, slow down, everybody.

00:30:26.000 There's a nutty AI war going on right in front of your face.

00:30:30.000 You just haven't heard the bombs go off yet.

00:30:33.000 It's happening right now.

00:30:35.000 And if they pulled that off from the University of Zurich...

00:30:39.000 Which is kind of creepy.

00:30:41.000 That a university would do that, pretend to be a black guy who's against the Black Lives Matter movement and a woman who survived a sexual assault. 0.76

00:30:51.000 You're just making it up with AI chatbots? 1.00

00:30:54.000 This is fucking wild. 0.99

00:30:56.000 And just to see how people react. 1.00

00:30:58.000 What the fuck do you think is going to happen? 0.99

00:31:00.000 Or find somebody who actually is one of those people and then see how people react. 0.99

00:31:04.000 If that's what you want to do.

00:31:05.000 You don't have to...

00:31:06.000 Pretend to be one.

00:31:07.000 There are lots of people who would probably just volunteer and you could have a whole study, control group, you know, have the whole thing.

00:31:14.000 Yeah, you don't have to do it anonymously on the internet under false pretenses.

00:31:18.000 Like, you wouldn't have to do that.

00:31:19.000 Unless you're just wanting to have fun.

00:31:21.000 I mean, I guess that's their...

00:31:22.000 But the problem is, anytime you're doing a study with real people, they know they're in a study.

00:31:28.000 Yeah, what's that?

00:31:29.000 There's a law, like a...

00:31:32.000 Where, like, you can't...

00:31:33.000 Something about being observed, like, ruins the thing, whatever.

00:31:37.000 Like, it's part of, like, the...

00:31:38.000 I don't know.

00:31:39.000 I suck at science, but I think there's something...

00:31:41.000 Well, I don't even know if that's science.

00:31:43.000 I'm just talking about, like, humans.

00:31:45.000 Like, if people know they're being...

00:31:47.000 Right.

00:31:47.000 ...watched as a part of a study...

00:31:49.000 Yeah, you behave completely differently.

00:31:50.000 Yeah.

00:31:50.000 You're going to influence their behavior.

00:31:52.000 Well, it's just like if you get asked a question to be part of a survey, you're not answering that thing accurately.

00:31:57.000 Right.

00:31:57.000 Even if it's anonymous.

00:31:58.000 Right.

00:31:59.000 Just because you know that your answer is going to make you look maybe a little bit bad, you'll church up your answer a little.

00:32:06.000 Maybe not outright lie, but if it asks you, how many drinks do you have a week?

00:32:09.000 You're not telling them the exact amount.

00:32:11.000 You're not counting them up.

00:32:12.000 You're going, six to eight.

00:32:14.000 Yeah, this uncertainty is why I think we're super vulnerable.

00:32:19.000 Yeah.

00:32:19.000 Because this uncertainty is why we're going to be very vulnerable.

00:32:24.000 Excuse me.

00:32:25.000 Yeah.

00:32:25.000 Sorry.

00:32:28.000 We're going to be really vulnerable to...

00:32:31.000 Any sort of electronic bridge that they start using, like whether it's a wearable or an implant that lets you legitimately read minds.

00:32:43.000 Which I fucking think is in our lifetime. 0.88

00:32:46.000 God, I hope not. 0.97

00:32:48.000 It's so scary, dude, because we'll give it up to know the truth.

00:32:51.000 People will give it up to know the truth.

00:32:53.000 Yeah.

00:32:54.000 I mean, think about how much of your data you give just so that you can Google things. 0.93

00:33:00.000 Think of how much money they make off of your data and giving out your email address and all the fucking spam texts that you get every day, all the chaos. 0.91

00:33:10.000 You gave that up. 0.94

00:33:11.000 Yeah, I blindly give it up.

00:33:12.000 Easy just for free internet.

00:33:14.000 Just for free Google.

00:33:15.000 Yeah, I give it up.

00:33:16.000 I don't give a damn.

00:33:17.000 I just give it all up.

00:33:18.000 Everybody does.

00:33:18.000 But imagine like what Google would cost.

00:33:20.000 Like if Google was a pay thing and the only way you could ever know anything about what's going on in the world.

00:33:26.000 You have to search it.

00:33:27.000 Every search engine costs money.

00:33:29.000 Right.

00:33:30.000 It's like, whoa.

00:33:31.000 But instead, you get this free value, but wouldn't you rather not pay?

00:33:36.000 Of course.

00:33:36.000 But what if you paid for it, and then they couldn't use any of your data ever, and it was a totally honest relationship, and you're not allowed to curate the information either.

00:33:45.000 You just have to put out the information as it exists online.

00:33:49.000 Right, right.

00:33:51.000 We gave up privacy.

00:33:53.000 We gave up our data, and we didn't even think about it.

00:33:55.000 We didn't even know it was a thing that we were giving up.

00:33:57.000 And then, we're going to give up.

00:34:00.000 Sentience. 0.99

00:34:01.000 We're going to fucking be connected to the hive mind. 0.99

00:34:04.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:34:05.000 I really think so.

00:34:06.000 Yeah, because it's weird, like, with the, you know, online, like, data privacy.

00:34:11.000 Like, you don't really know what it is that you're giving up.

00:34:14.000 Right.

00:34:14.000 It's not like normal privacy where, like, if somebody asks, like, hey, can I take a picture of your driver's license?

00:34:19.000 You'd say, no.

00:34:20.000 What are you talking about?

00:34:20.000 No, you can't.

00:34:21.000 Right.

00:34:22.000 But they can get the majority of that information through, you know, they can track, you know, get your address, get your, they can find out.

00:34:29.000 Even more information about you through giving up your privacy, like data privacy.

00:34:34.000 But we don't have a list of what they're getting. 0.61

00:34:37.000 I mean, I guess you do if you read that whole damn thing, but who's reading that? 0.94

00:34:41.000 Right. 1.00

00:34:42.000 Nobody reads that shit. 0.99

00:34:43.000 Somebody told me there was something, we might have to edit this out if it's not true, but somebody told me there's something fucked up about Google's terms and whatever terms apply. 0.99

00:34:57.000 With a thing that you have to agree to?

00:34:59.000 That it has something in there that you'll agree to mediation?

00:35:03.000 To mediation?

00:35:04.000 Yeah, like in case of some sort of a dispute, a legal dispute.

00:35:08.000 You've agreed to mediation, so you're not going to sue them.

00:35:11.000 So you can't really...

00:35:13.000 Yeah, like whenever you get hired at a new job, they have those kinds of clauses.

00:35:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:18.000 That's so weird.

00:35:20.000 If it's true.

00:35:21.000 Yeah, it would.

00:35:21.000 But we need to find out if it's true.

00:35:23.000 Somebody was telling it to me, and I was like, wait, what?

00:35:27.000 Yeah, that sounds insane.

00:35:28.000 Yeah.

00:35:34.000 Acceptance required by applicable law, mediation is voluntary, and neither you nor Google are obligated to settle disputes through mediation.

00:35:44.000 What the hell does that mean?

00:35:47.000 I don't know the context in which you were told it, because this is for developers.

00:35:50.000 I said Uber.

00:35:51.000 I thought you said Google, I thought.

00:35:53.000 No, no, no, no.

00:35:54.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:35:55.000 Uber.

00:35:56.000 Oh, okay, okay.

00:35:56.000 Uber.

00:35:57.000 I'm sorry.

00:35:57.000 I probably mumbled.

00:36:01.000 Uber.

00:36:03.000 Okay.

00:36:04.000 Uber's terms of service include a binding arbitration clause, meaning users agree to resolve disputes through arbitration rather than in court.

00:36:11.000 This arbitration is individual and non-consolidated, meaning you can't join with others in a class action suit.

00:36:19.000 Uber also limits its liability and states that drivers are independent contractors, not employees.

00:36:25.000 If you have a dispute, you can try to resolve it through mediation, but it may ultimately be resolved through arbitration.

00:36:32.000 That's wild.

00:36:34.000 Jesus.

00:36:34.000 That's kind of wild.

00:36:35.000 It's like we have our own rules.

00:36:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:37.000 Our laws.

00:36:38.000 No, no, no.

00:36:38.000 Forget about the laws of the land.

00:36:40.000 No, you agree to a legal contract.

00:36:42.000 That's like very sneaky.

00:36:43.000 Very.

00:36:43.000 Because if there's like laws, if we have laws to prevent fraud and laws to prevent negligence, we have those for companies.

00:36:50.000 And you're a company.

00:36:51.000 Like, no, we're not.

00:36:51.000 We're not even a company.

00:36:52.000 These people, they're independent contractors.

00:36:54.000 Right, right.

00:36:55.000 Oh, you have no liability at all and you make all the money.

00:36:57.000 What a great deal.

00:36:58.000 Who did you pay? 0.99

00:36:59.000 Who did you fucking pay off to get that sweetheart of a deal? 1.00

00:37:03.000 Yeah, and also, how many people know what arbitration is? 0.99

00:37:06.000 Because I'll be honest.

00:37:08.000 I don't know what it is.

00:37:09.000 I was just kind of going with everything.

00:37:10.000 Sounds scary if you've got to go through arbitration.

00:37:11.000 I could not explain to you what arbitration is.

00:37:14.000 Let's find out.

00:37:14.000 I just kind of agreed with everything.

00:37:16.000 Well, I think essentially they're saying that you have to have a conversation with them outside of like a judge and jury ruling.

00:37:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:37:24.000 Like we have to have some sort of mediation.

00:37:27.000 I think that's what they're saying.

00:37:28.000 I could be wrong.

00:37:29.000 Well, I'm sure that's in your best interest.

00:37:32.000 That's wild.

00:37:35.000 The thing about Uber is if they're just private contractors, then it becomes like, okay, what is your responsibility to screen these private contractors? 0.67

00:37:45.000 Because some of these people might be psychos and you're a woman and you get in the car with someone who hasn't been vetted and they're a psycho. 0.96

00:37:53.000 I'm wondering if this has to do with...

00:37:58.000 Where is it based?

00:37:59.000 On the moon?

00:38:01.000 I'm talking about the laws of the Netherlands.

00:38:04.000 The Netherlands?

00:38:05.000 That would be a good move. 1.00

00:38:06.000 You've got to start somewhere where the Nazis rolled through with fucking tanks. 0.99

00:38:11.000 Yeah, it's either that or Luxembourg, whichever one you want. 0.99

00:38:13.000 Did the Nazis get to Netherlands? 0.74

00:38:15.000 He keeps talking about Amsterdam and Netherlands.

00:38:17.000 Well, yeah, that's where Anne Frank.

00:38:18.000 That's right.

00:38:20.000 Vienna Convention.

00:38:21.000 That's right.

00:38:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:23.000 Vienna Convention on the International Sale of Goods shall not apply.

00:38:28.000 Okay.

00:38:29.000 Except as was set forth in these terms, these terms shall be exclusively governed and construed in accordance with the laws of the Netherlands, excluding its rules on conflicts of laws.

00:38:41.000 Excluding its rules on conflicts of laws.

00:38:44.000 What does that mean?

00:38:45.000 I don't...

00:38:46.000 That's a weird thing to say.

00:38:47.000 This may as well be Portuguese as far as I'm concerned.

00:38:49.000 In accordance with the laws of the Netherlands, excluding its rules on conflicts of laws.

00:38:54.000 I have an idea.

00:38:55.000 So conflicts of laws...

00:38:56.000 What do you think it is, Jamie?

00:38:56.000 I should copy and paste this into, like, Grok or Chai GPT.

00:38:59.000 Oh, no.

00:38:59.000 Explain this to an American.

00:39:00.000 We're going down so many rabbit holes.

00:39:02.000 Explain this to an American, please.

00:39:03.000 Kids use Uber so much, man, that, like, a small percentage, comparative to the past, of kids are getting their drivers.

00:39:14.000 Good.

00:39:15.000 You're probably right.

00:39:16.000 Perfectly fine with that.

00:39:20.000 Is Grok your favorite to use?

00:39:21.000 What do you like to use most?

00:39:23.000 I have to go.

00:39:24.000 I honestly think you have to test them all when you're asking a question you really want the answer to.

00:39:28.000 It's very responsible.

00:39:29.000 They give you varying responses.

00:39:31.000 I had a ChatGPT lie to me yesterday four times in a row.

00:39:35.000 Look how quick this is.

00:39:36.000 Let me break this down for an American audience in plain language.

00:39:40.000 It's insane.

00:39:41.000 This selection of a contrast explains...

00:39:43.000 See, this is what I'm saying.

00:39:44.000 Like, if it's already happened...

00:39:46.000 If AI has already taken over, we've already agreed by the timing of your book, the synchronicity is real, and that maybe the simulation is real.

00:39:53.000 And then if it's going to be simulated, it's not going to be simulated by a bunch of people.

00:39:58.000 It's going to be simulated by artificial intelligence.

00:40:01.000 No, there'd be way more mistakes if it was people.

00:40:03.000 Yeah.

00:40:05.000 Dutch law applies.

00:40:06.000 The contract governed by the laws of the Netherlands, not U.S. law.

00:40:09.000 This means Dutch legal principles will guide how the contract is interpreted except for conflicts of laws, rules, which deal with choosing which country's laws apply.

00:40:19.000 Oh, that's what it is.

00:40:20.000 Also, an international treaty called the Vienna Convention, which covers sales of goods, doesn't apply here.

00:40:26.000 So essentially they're saying, like, we go by the Netherlands laws.

00:40:29.000 If you have different laws in the United States, go pound sand.

00:40:31.000 Those don't matter.

00:40:32.000 This is in the Netherlands.

00:40:35.000 Your lawsuit's here.

00:40:36.000 It also probably depends on what happened.

00:40:38.000 Like, if it's a speed limit thing, you go by the rules of the speed limit.

00:40:41.000 But if it's something about, you know, interpersonal, the driver and the...

00:40:45.000 Don't you think that if you do business in a particular country, you'd have to follow the laws of that country?

00:40:52.000 Doesn't that just...

00:40:53.000 You would think, yeah.

00:40:54.000 I mean, I'm not even trying to be unreasonable here.

00:40:56.000 Maybe they're better in the Netherlands.

00:40:58.000 Maybe they're more fair.

00:40:59.000 I don't know.

00:40:59.000 It's not even like a value judgment.

00:41:01.000 I don't know.

00:41:01.000 Maybe they are.

00:41:02.000 Maybe they just want the best for their customers.

00:41:05.000 So they say, you know what?

00:41:06.000 If they really want to sue the fuck out of us and win, we really should do it in the Netherlands. 0.98

00:41:10.000 Maybe.

00:41:10.000 Perhaps.

00:41:11.000 Isn't that where the Hague is in the Netherlands, right?

00:41:13.000 Is it?

00:41:13.000 You know, where the world, like, what do you call it, crimes against humanity, like war crimes is all in the Hague.

00:41:20.000 Yeah.

00:41:20.000 Ooh.

00:41:22.000 I don't know if that means anything.

00:41:24.000 I don't know if it means anything either.

00:41:25.000 But I would imagine if you're doing business in China, you're not allowed to say, yeah, but U.S. rules only. 0.94

00:41:31.000 So if you want to sue us, it's like, you gotta fucking sue us in Alabama. 1.00

00:41:35.000 They'd be like, fuck you. 1.00

00:41:36.000 We'll sue you right here. 1.00

00:41:37.000 Sit your ass down. 1.00

00:41:39.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:41:39.000 You're in our place. 1.00

00:41:40.000 Yeah, you're doing business in China. 1.00

00:41:42.000 You get sued in China, motherfucker. 1.00

00:41:43.000 You should always, no matter what... 1.00

00:41:46.000 Wherever you are, you've got to follow those laws.

00:41:48.000 I mean, how is that not?

00:41:50.000 That seems super reasonable.

00:41:51.000 Seems like it. 0.99

00:41:51.000 It seems like you shouldn't be able to avoid that by, like, setting up shop in some fucking dictatorship somewhere, you know? 0.99

00:41:58.000 Like, you're homies with some guy who's a dictator, and you're like, bro, you want to make some money together? 0.96

00:42:05.000 We'll incorporate in your country. 0.99

00:42:08.000 Let's fucking raise some cash. 0.99

00:42:10.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:42:11.000 Yeah, it's all very weird.

00:42:15.000 It's very weird.

00:42:16.000 But the driverless car thing might be even weirder because that's a solution out of it.

00:42:20.000 Like, man, I don't trust these Uber drivers.

00:42:22.000 They're sketchy, man.

00:42:23.000 Good. 1.00

00:42:24.000 Get in one of those fucking robot cars. 1.00

00:42:26.000 The Waymos. 1.00

00:42:26.000 Yeah, get in one of those Waymos where you can't even bribe it, okay? 1.00

00:42:30.000 The government's trying to get you and they have a setup for you.

00:42:35.000 Bro, change of plans.

00:42:36.000 This is what I want you to do.

00:42:37.000 I'm going to give you $500.

00:42:39.000 You're going to drive me to Ohio.

00:42:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:42:44.000 Like, you could do that. 0.96

00:42:46.000 Like, if the government's after you, and you're in a fucking Uber driver, and the guy's cool, you go, listen, dude, I'm gonna make this worth your while. 0.94

00:42:53.000 It's a four-hour drive, four hours back. 0.97

00:42:55.000 Yeah, how do you do that to a Waymo?

00:42:57.000 You don't.

00:42:58.000 You don't.

00:42:58.000 They get you.

00:42:59.000 They shut the car off.

00:43:01.000 They lock the doors.

00:43:03.000 And you're locked into the Uber contract problem.

00:43:05.000 Waymo's partnered with Uber.

00:43:06.000 Oh, I know, because I was going to get in one yesterday.

00:43:09.000 I was like, I haven't been in Austin in a long time.

00:43:13.000 I used to come down here a lot in high school or whatever, you know, sneak into bars and whatnot.

00:43:18.000 I saw these Waymos like, what the hell is this thing? 1.00

00:43:21.000 I've never heard of this.

00:43:22.000 Didn't know this existed.

00:43:23.000 And I see it like driving around, nobody driving.

00:43:25.000 Weird.

00:43:26.000 I do not like this at all.

00:43:28.000 But immediately downloaded the Uber and Waymo app because I was like, well, let me just get one to take me up to like 6th Street or something.

00:43:34.000 Did you get in?

00:43:35.000 No.

00:43:35.000 No?

00:43:36.000 No, I chickened out.

00:43:37.000 I just don't think.

00:43:38.000 Because what if it just doesn't want to take me there?

00:43:40.000 Like what if something happens where he's like, you know what I would like to do?

00:43:43.000 Take you down 35 at about 90 miles an hour.

00:43:46.000 In the wrong lane.

00:43:47.000 What if my front camera goes out and I can't see what's in front of me and I just start plowing into other cars?

00:43:54.000 I'm not saying that that's going to happen or whatever will happen.

00:43:56.000 I'm sure there's a bunch of backup cameras.

00:43:57.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:43:58.000 But it just sketches me out.

00:44:00.000 Although I do think it's inevitable.

00:44:02.000 Yeah, I looked it up.

00:44:03.000 There's only been one fatality.

00:44:05.000 Involving one, and it wasn't even their fault.

00:44:06.000 It was a driverless one where someone rear-ended the Waymo.

00:44:11.000 So I was like, well...

00:44:12.000 They seem pretty safe.

00:44:13.000 In terms of the way they drive, too.

00:44:15.000 They drive real slow and steady, and they're easy to avoid.

00:44:19.000 I can see you taking one just going around a neighborhood or something.

00:44:23.000 You're never going above 30 miles an hour.

00:44:25.000 Getting on the interstate in one of these things.

00:44:27.000 Imagine if you could show this to Ted Kaczynski.

00:44:30.000 Get them away from me! 1.00

00:44:32.000 He's like, I was right!

00:44:33.000 I was right!

00:44:34.000 They're coming to get us!

00:44:35.000 God, back to my cabin.

00:44:37.000 We are allowing them to come to get us.

00:44:39.000 We're paying for them.

00:44:41.000 We're psyched.

00:44:42.000 Whoa, this is cool.

00:44:43.000 I'm guilty of it.

00:44:44.000 I have a Tesla that does auto-driving.

00:44:47.000 You go, doot-doot. 1.00

00:44:47.000 You turn this button on, and it fucking stops. 1.00

00:44:50.000 It stops, signs, hits its blinkers, goes around stuff. 1.00

00:44:53.000 It's crazy.

00:44:54.000 Do you use it?

00:44:54.000 Very rarely.

00:44:55.000 Okay.

00:44:56.000 It weirds me out.

00:44:56.000 But I do sometimes.

00:44:58.000 Yeah.

00:44:58.000 I mean, I've done it, like, I have it driven me home three or four times.

00:45:01.000 Just like, doo-doo. 1.00

00:45:02.000 Just like, this is crazy.

00:45:04.000 Just because it's weird.

00:45:05.000 You know, but I'm always, my hands are close.

00:45:07.000 You know, I'm never, like, looking at my phone or anything like that.

00:45:10.000 That's crazy.

00:45:10.000 I would trust that.

00:45:11.000 Like, if you're just sitting in there and, like, kind of...

00:45:14.000 You could take control if need be.

00:45:17.000 But that's the bridge, bro.

00:45:19.000 Yeah, I don't like a bridge.

00:45:20.000 That's the bridge to transhumanism. 0.94

00:45:23.000 I think we all need to stay in our separate room.

00:45:25.000 No bridges.

00:45:26.000 I agree, but I think we're going.

00:45:28.000 I think we are the last of these kind of people.

00:45:32.000 And then the people from now on will be personally, physically integrated with some kind of electronics.

00:45:38.000 Yeah, I don't like that one bit.

00:45:40.000 I'm too much of an acoustic type fella.

00:45:43.000 I can't be.

00:45:44.000 I think there's so much wild genetic stuff going on right now that they're going to change what it means to be a person within our lifetime.

00:45:53.000 There was a thing in China.

00:45:56.000 See if you can find this.

00:45:57.000 Do you know what a tardigrade is? 1.00

00:45:59.000 No.

00:46:00.000 Tardigrades are these really weird, little, almost insect-looking things that are unbelievably durable. 0.99

00:46:07.000 They're tiny, microscopic little fuckers. 0.98

00:46:09.000 Yeah, they call them like something bears or something. 1.00

00:46:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:12.000 What do they call them?

00:46:13.000 What kind of bears?

00:46:14.000 Water bears.

00:46:14.000 Water bears, yeah.

00:46:16.000 So these little fuckers can survive forever in space. 1.00

00:46:20.000 For whatever reason they go into like hibernation in space like and they think there's some of them from the Japanese lunar lander that are actually on the moon They think tardigrades are on the moon and that they're like in a suspended state of animation And that if you brought them back the United States, they'd kick back in and be alive again That's how crazy these are weird. 0.97

00:46:42.000 So there was this Chinese experiment where they're integrating tardigrade DNA into human DNA That's a good idea. 1.00

00:46:51.000 There's nothing that could ever go wrong with doing that.

00:46:54.000 But what happens if someone develops a bulletproof, immortal human that literally lives forever unless it gets hit with a meteor?

00:47:07.000 That's not outside of what's possible, man.

00:47:11.000 They developed, or they were developing...

00:47:15.000 See if you can find that first before I make you Google this.

00:47:18.000 But they were trying to develop some sort of bulletproof human skin using spider silk.

00:47:23.000 That makes sense.

00:47:24.000 Like Kevlar's spider silk.

00:47:25.000 But your own skin.

00:47:28.000 Oh.

00:47:29.000 Like with gene splicing.

00:47:31.000 I don't like that.

00:47:32.000 The gene splicing thing.

00:47:33.000 Gene editing.

00:47:33.000 Like that movie.

00:47:34.000 I don't know if you ever saw that with A.J. and Brody.

00:47:36.000 I did.

00:47:36.000 Ooh, that was crazy.

00:47:38.000 It's a great movie, but just seeing it, that's what my mind immediately goes to, is him banging this thing with its dragon wings.

00:47:45.000 Yeah, that thing was sick.

00:47:47.000 Yeah. 0.74

00:47:48.000 It was kind of a goofy movie.

00:47:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:50.000 It wasn't like, wow, I would really believe that was happening.

00:47:54.000 No, it was Schindler's List or something.

00:47:57.000 Yeah, it was kind of goofy, but it was fun.

00:47:59.000 I liked it, yeah.

00:48:00.000 And it was just very strange, you know, because you go, okay, I could kind of see that happening.

00:48:05.000 For sure.

00:48:06.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:48:07.000 I mean, that's kind of what a lot of that is.

00:48:08.000 I just...

00:48:09.000 What was that?

00:48:10.000 CRISPR?

00:48:10.000 You remember that thing?

00:48:11.000 That was a talking point.

00:48:13.000 Well, they have CRISPR too now, which is even more effective apparently.

00:48:16.000 This was made by an artist.

00:48:17.000 Bulletproof skin is made of goat milk.

00:48:19.000 No, this isn't it.

00:48:20.000 Goat milk.

00:48:21.000 No, there was...

00:48:22.000 What's that?

00:48:23.000 Lab-grown skin. 0.90

00:48:24.000 Reinforced spider silk can stop bullets, but when you go to what it actually is... 0.99

00:48:28.000 Oh, so it's bullshit? 0.98

00:48:29.000 It's not bullshit, but it's just, you know, it's someone sort of explaining things differently. 0.99

00:48:35.000 I mean... 0.92

00:48:36.000 I thought there was a study about human skin.

00:48:42.000 That's what I think that they were trying to say. 0.99

00:48:44.000 Oh, so it's like a bullshit headline in this story? 0.98

00:48:46.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:48:47.000 Is that what it is?

00:48:47.000 Back from 2018 is when this...

00:48:49.000 Did you find anything in the tardigrade thing?

00:48:51.000 Yeah, and it had...

00:48:52.000 They were explaining what it did.

00:48:55.000 So there's...

00:48:56.000 It showed that there was a clean transfer.

00:48:59.000 New cells function normally.

00:49:01.000 But also demonstrate increased rate of cell growth.

00:49:04.000 They're trying to make them immune to radiation, is what the idea was.

00:49:09.000 They're making super people, man.

00:49:11.000 They're making X-Men.

00:49:13.000 That is so crazy.

00:49:16.000 That is wild. 1.00

00:49:17.000 They're going to put fucking tardigrade genes into humans. 1.00

00:49:22.000 God, that makes me so uncomfortable. 1.00

00:49:24.000 They may create super soldiers. 1.00

00:49:25.000 What the fuck? 0.99

00:49:27.000 So, okay, China has already done these genetic experiments on babies that are supposed to inoculate them to HIV, but also somehow increase their intelligence. 1.00

00:49:40.000 And the guy got in trouble, and they said, you're bad.

00:49:44.000 You shouldn't have done that research that we paid you to do.

00:49:46.000 And so they put him in jail for a couple of years, probably played golf, and then now he's out.

00:49:52.000 That happened.

00:49:53.000 And that's just what we know about publicly.

00:49:56.000 If they were making Super Soldiers, by the time we hear about it, there's probably some mountain in China that has an underground base, just like we have, just like Area 51. They have some base carved to the side of a mountain, and they're doing wild shit over there. 0.96

00:50:14.000 Where Jared Leto lives, or whatever it is. 0.70

00:50:16.000 He lives in the LA one.

00:50:18.000 He lives in the one that's connected to the music scene in Laurel Canyon.

00:50:22.000 You know, because it's all like, you know, the whole music scene has like weird intelligence agency roots.

00:50:27.000 The Little Canyon thing is strange.

00:50:29.000 Crazy!

00:50:29.000 Yeah, yeah, with all those people like Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, well, maybe not Neil Young, but like, yeah, a lot of those artists had like big Vietnam.

00:50:36.000 Too many connections.

00:50:38.000 Yeah, and Jim Morrison's dad started Vietnam.

00:50:40.000 Yes.

00:50:40.000 I mean, that's...

00:50:40.000 Jim Morrison's dad was like a serious military man.

00:50:43.000 Yeah, he was the Navy Admiral during the Gulf of Tonkin.

00:50:46.000 Yeah.

00:50:47.000 It's one of those things where it's like...

00:50:49.000 You first hear about that one, and we go, what?

00:50:51.000 Get out of here.

00:50:52.000 But then you hear, well, no.

00:50:55.000 It's not like these artists didn't exist, but why did they become famous?

00:51:00.000 Why did they get promoted?

00:51:01.000 What was it about?

00:51:03.000 Do you think it's like a psychology?

00:51:05.000 Because take a guy... 0.81

00:51:09.000 In the Laurel Canyon scene, like Hendrix.

00:51:10.000 Like, you can't make a Hendrix accidentally.

00:51:13.000 Or you can't make a Jim Morrison.

00:51:16.000 Even though his dad was like, there's something about that guy.

00:51:19.000 The way he sang, just the way it felt when he was on stage.

00:51:23.000 He was a star, man.

00:51:24.000 I don't think you could turn a person who isn't that into that.

00:51:28.000 No, not even close.

00:51:29.000 No, no.

00:51:29.000 You can pump up, like...

00:51:32.000 You can't really pump up a rock star.

00:51:34.000 Right.

00:51:35.000 You can make a boy band.

00:51:36.000 Yeah, you can make a boy band. 0.99

00:51:37.000 You can, you know, make Ariana Grande out of clay and send her ass out up there. 1.00

00:51:43.000 You can't make Bob Dylan. 0.99

00:51:44.000 God, no.

00:51:45.000 You can't do that.

00:51:45.000 Yeah, you can't do that to Jim Morrison.

00:51:47.000 You can't do that to, like, a lot of those.

00:51:48.000 Like, an actual rock star is just, that's like a flash in the pan.

00:51:53.000 Like, it happened.

00:51:54.000 We don't know how it happened.

00:51:59.000 You know, there's no way.

00:52:02.000 I shouldn't say no way.

00:52:03.000 But I don't think the intelligence agencies can, like, get a guy and train him to be that.

00:52:10.000 No, you could, like, take a budding scene and pump it up.

00:52:16.000 But that scene's already there.

00:52:18.000 Like, it was already going to exist.

00:52:20.000 Like, it already was existing.

00:52:21.000 I mean, there was, like, the beatnik stuff in New York that was already happening way before any of this.

00:52:26.000 And they were just kind of the next generation of that.

00:52:29.000 Just the West Coast version.

00:52:31.000 But, you know, there's...

00:52:33.000 Like, that's all...

00:52:34.000 That was already there.

00:52:35.000 So, yeah, if you want to say there's, like, a conspiracy that they pumped it up and, like...

00:52:41.000 Put more money into, like, marketing their music to make sure that those artists' music got sold more and played on the radio more, like kind of a payola sort of thing.

00:52:50.000 Right.

00:52:50.000 That makes sense.

00:52:51.000 Yeah.

00:52:51.000 I mean, that could be...

00:52:52.000 I don't know that it happened, but...

00:52:53.000 I know.

00:52:54.000 It's confusing, right?

00:52:55.000 Because you want to draw conclusions, but then you've got to go, okay, you can't invent Janis Joplin.

00:53:00.000 No.

00:53:01.000 You can't make that in a lab.

00:53:02.000 No.

00:53:02.000 Like, you know, when she's singing Peace of My Heart, you know, like...

00:53:06.000 Jesus.

00:53:07.000 You just, like, that is either...

00:53:09.000 That's like...

00:53:10.000 God just kissed her with this talent.

00:53:12.000 You can't, like, engineer that, I don't think.

00:53:15.000 I don't think.

00:53:16.000 There's no way.

00:53:17.000 But if they could do that, they could manipulate all of reality.

00:53:20.000 Well, if they could do that, then they should probably do another one.

00:53:22.000 Because Jesus Christ.

00:53:24.000 I mean, the amount of times, dude, that I've seen, like, people on TV that are supposed to be these, like, massively famous artists, I'm like, I don't know who any of these people are.

00:53:32.000 And I'm, like, in the age where I should still know who all these people are.

00:53:35.000 Like, I'm pretty young, but, like...

00:53:37.000 Yeah, I don't know who they are, and they all sound horrible.

00:53:40.000 Like, I don't...

00:53:41.000 Like, this is the proof of there being some simulation where we're all just, like, listening to the same. 0.98

00:53:46.000 But I wonder if people thought that about every damn genre of music.

00:53:49.000 I think they did, but I think there's something particularly lost about this current generation because of social media. 0.97

00:53:58.000 Yeah.

00:53:58.000 Because of what we were talking about with those chatbots arguing with each other, and...

00:54:02.000 We know for sure that happens all over Twitter and Instagram.

00:54:06.000 There's a lot of bot accounts.

00:54:07.000 I think people are super confused as to what's a real thing.

00:54:13.000 What's real?

00:54:14.000 What resonates?

00:54:15.000 What's cool?

00:54:18.000 What's being promoted and artificially astroturfed and what's just fucking cool or draws people into it?

00:54:25.000 And it's harder to tell now.

00:54:27.000 It's tricky.

00:54:29.000 Well, it also seems like there isn't...

00:54:31.000 Because, like, you know, you go back to, let's say, like the 60s, and you think, like, okay, late 60s, this is the time of, like, you know, Hendrix and, like, the Rolling Stones, the Sgt. Pepper, like, these are, like, the highly influential experimental musicians.

00:54:44.000 Eric Clapton.

00:54:45.000 Yeah, Cream.

00:54:46.000 Cream was, like, you know, hadn't broken up yet.

00:54:48.000 They broke up in, like, 70. But like the number one song in like 1969 or one of them was, you know, Sugar Sugar by the Archies.

00:54:55.000 It's like one of the most mainstream bubblegum pop songs ever.

00:54:58.000 It's like there was all, but those like Hendrix and stuff were still there.

00:55:02.000 Like it was in the zeitgeist.

00:55:05.000 It was still popular.

00:55:06.000 But now it's like those types of people are nowhere to even be found.

00:55:10.000 And it's all just the Sugar Sugar.

00:55:15.000 Interesting.

00:55:16.000 But there's still a lot of really good bands now.

00:55:19.000 The whole music business is weird because you don't sell anything anymore other than tickets to come see people.

00:55:27.000 But yet, there's still a giant industry that is involved in promoting and taking these artists and essentially locking them up to these deals.

00:55:40.000 Well, yeah, because you get the ticket money.

00:55:42.000 Yeah, but they get the ticket money now, and that's the thing that the music companies didn't used to get.

00:55:48.000 Exactly.

00:55:49.000 So, yeah, you still are going to market, distribute the way that you would have in the past, but now you're just getting your slice of cake from a different – you're getting it from a different area than you used to.

00:56:02.000 But you're still pumping them out, pumping them up.

00:56:05.000 For the same reason, ultimately, to make money.

00:56:07.000 It's just you're getting it in a different way.

00:56:09.000 What I'm saying is that now a bunch of people are emerging that aren't doing any of that stuff.

00:56:13.000 You got, like, your title and the creator type dudes.

00:56:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:16.000 Completely disconnected from that system.

00:56:17.000 Makes his own music.

00:56:19.000 Makes his own...

00:56:20.000 He's...

00:56:21.000 The creator of his own domain.

00:56:23.000 And you don't need all those people.

00:56:25.000 And so you have this weird thing happening now where you have a lot of, like, astroturf stuff.

00:56:31.000 A lot of stuff that's just, like, thrown out there to try to get people to link.

00:56:36.000 It sounds like stuff that people like and it's created.

00:56:38.000 But you still have a lot more opportunity for legit artists to just...

00:56:43.000 Like, Zach Bryant just emerged from, like, TikTok clips or whatever they were.

00:56:47.000 Yeah, right, right, right.

00:56:48.000 YouTube clips.

00:56:49.000 Yeah, there's always going to be the ones who come out in, like, the indie way, you know, of, like, what Tarantino was for, like, movies, you know?

00:56:57.000 Like, come out, like, I'm doing this all on my own, and, like, there's always going to be those people.

00:57:02.000 I just think it seems like there's not a lot of those. 0.95

00:57:06.000 Yeah, but when they break through, it fucking means something. 0.97

00:57:10.000 Yes. 0.98

00:57:10.000 Like, Oliver Anthony. 0.98

00:57:12.000 Yes.

00:57:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:13.000 Do you want to hear his new song and we can't play it on the show?

00:57:16.000 Sure.

00:57:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:18.000 How about this?

00:57:19.000 Everybody at home will be right back.

00:57:21.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:57:23.000 Oh, my God.

00:57:24.000 Yeah, man.

00:57:25.000 Dude.

00:57:26.000 See?

00:57:27.000 That's...

00:57:28.000 Jesus.

00:57:30.000 That exists, right? 0.99

00:57:31.000 So in the middle of all this honey, honey, sugar, sugar shit that you're saying today, there's still... 0.99

00:57:37.000 There's still Oliver Anthony. 0.99

00:57:38.000 There's still people out there that are legit.

00:57:41.000 They're legit.

00:57:42.000 There's a bunch, man.

00:57:43.000 There's a lot.

00:57:44.000 There's just a lot of noise.

00:57:46.000 Yes, true.

00:57:46.000 And I think I also just don't try to find things as much.

00:57:51.000 You know what I mean?

00:57:51.000 Like, I don't like...

00:57:52.000 Pursue it the way I probably should.

00:57:55.000 Because in my head, I just have this bias of like, if it came out in the last 20 years, I don't care.

00:58:00.000 It's hard to find stuff.

00:58:02.000 I get suggestions from a lot of my friends.

00:58:04.000 That's some of the best songs.

00:58:06.000 But also, Spotify has a really good...

00:58:09.000 I know I work for Spotify.

00:58:11.000 But for real, their suggestion thing is legit.

00:58:14.000 It's amazing.

00:58:14.000 The algorithm's very good.

00:58:16.000 It's legit.

00:58:17.000 It knows the kind of vibe you're into.

00:58:19.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:58:21.000 Because I'll put in just some random playlists, or in my head think of, well, what do I want to hear right now?

00:58:28.000 How about 70s Garage Rock?

00:58:31.000 And I'll just put that in, and there's all this amazing stuff.

00:58:34.000 It'll have some deep cuts from The Stones, which is one of my favorite bands, and just all this other stuff that I've never heard before, but it all came out around that time, has the same sound.

00:58:43.000 There's never a miss on that whole list of 200 songs.

00:58:49.000 This is incredible.

00:58:51.000 There's some great playlists.

00:58:53.000 That's what's interesting, too, about people curating their own playlists.

00:58:57.000 There's a bunch of my friends that'll give me their playlists.

00:59:00.000 Tony gave me one of his playlists the other day. 0.99

00:59:01.000 I was like, God damn, this is fucking legit. 0.99

00:59:03.000 A bunch of cool shit that I never heard before. 1.00

00:59:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.87

00:59:06.000 I make playlists all the time.

00:59:09.000 That's one of my favorite things to do is a hobby is to make playlists for people.

00:59:12.000 I love it.

00:59:12.000 If they tell me, like, oh, I'm...

00:59:16.000 Like, want to know more songs that sound like this.

00:59:18.000 I'll be like, gotcha.

00:59:19.000 I'll make you a playlist and send it to you.

00:59:21.000 I love doing stuff like that for people.

00:59:23.000 Yeah, I only have one playlist, but it's like 39 hours long.

00:59:27.000 Well, that's pretty good.

00:59:28.000 I mean, how much do you really need?

00:59:30.000 It's ridiculous, though, to try to find songs in it.

00:59:33.000 I have to use the search bar.

00:59:35.000 I can never just scroll down.

00:59:36.000 There's too many of them.

00:59:37.000 I have probably 40 playlists that I've made.

00:59:40.000 Yeah, because I do them by like decades, and then I'll do genres within decades. 0.98

00:59:44.000 Oh, man, you're fucking super specific. 0.88

00:59:45.000 Well, I'm just like slightly autistic. 0.99

00:59:48.000 How much?

00:59:49.000 What percent?

00:59:50.000 Oh, gotta be.

00:59:52.000 55, 56. Like, enough to where I can, like, you know, I can function.

00:59:57.000 Do you smell math?

00:59:58.000 No.

00:59:59.000 See, when it comes to that, I don't have any of that autism.

01:00:02.000 I just have the weird, like, I can't handle too many sounds autism.

01:00:06.000 Oh, interesting.

01:00:06.000 Yeah, no, I can't handle a lot of stimulus, and then I make playlists or do jigsaw puzzles.

01:00:12.000 Hmm.

01:00:13.000 Yeah.

01:00:13.000 Interesting.

01:00:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:15.000 Or read 24-7 and look up random. 1.00

01:00:19.000 Yeah, bullshit. 1.00

01:00:20.000 That's the superpower of it, right? 1.00

01:00:22.000 I think so.

01:00:23.000 I mean, yeah, I'm glad I have, you know.

01:00:26.000 I don't know if I'm really autistic, but if I am, I'm glad I have. 1.00

01:00:30.000 Well, are you self-diagnosed?

01:00:31.000 Of course.

01:00:32.000 Oh, there you go.

01:00:32.000 I'm self-diagnosed, right?

01:00:33.000 You are a doctor, though, right?

01:00:35.000 Yeah.

01:00:36.000 Sure.

01:00:37.000 I mean, as much as, you know.

01:00:39.000 I'm guilty as charged.

01:00:40.000 I've self-diagnosed myself with ADHD.

01:00:43.000 Yeah, but you...

01:00:45.000 But you know yourself better than anybody else.

01:00:47.000 So you should be able to self-diagnose yourself.

01:00:49.000 Well, I don't think necessarily ADHD is even totally real. 0.99

01:00:53.000 I think it's one of those things for people that just think differently and they're fucking bored as shit and they can't pay attention to stuff that sucks. 0.99

01:01:00.000 Well, and there probably is some disorder in it. 0.99

01:01:03.000 But to like...

01:01:05.000 Because I don't think it's necessarily wrong to say that there is like a thing, but to say that it's like a disorder and that it's negative and that it needs to be treated is different.

01:01:14.000 Like I don't think ADHD necessarily needs to be treated.

01:01:16.000 It just needs to be like funneled.

01:01:18.000 It's only a disorder because we have a very rigid civilization.

01:01:22.000 So we don't live in accordance to the way our bodies were designed.

01:01:27.000 Our bodies were designed to be hunter-gatherers.

01:01:31.000 That's the reality.

01:01:32.000 That's the reality because it takes so long to become a hunter and gatherer and it took like hundreds of thousands of years for us to be good at it.

01:01:40.000 And we've only been living in civilization for a little tiny little blink of time. 0.99

01:01:44.000 So our fucking programming is all not to sit still all day, not to stare at a fucking teacher, not to be bored memorizing shit. 0.99

01:01:53.000 Our old thing is like be active, do something, learn, get excited about something. 0.99

01:01:58.000 We have like an entire forgotten group of people that have so much energy and they have all these interests that are not what you're...

01:02:06.000 Dulling them down with all day long.

01:02:08.000 And they could learn in a way better manner by just like participating in things.

01:02:14.000 And yeah, reading stuff as well.

01:02:16.000 But having a teacher that actually is enthusiastic about it where it gets you excited about it.

01:02:20.000 Like not having to sit down all day. 1.00

01:02:22.000 You're fucking 10. You want to run. 1.00

01:02:24.000 You want to play with your friends.

01:02:25.000 You want to have fun.

01:02:27.000 And you sit there.

01:02:28.000 And by the end of the day, you're like, ugh, I hate school. 0.99

01:02:30.000 Because it's fucking boring. 1.00

01:02:32.000 Yeah, school sucks. 1.00

01:02:33.000 Like school ruins. 0.99

01:02:35.000 Everything.

01:02:35.000 It ruins the natural love of learning that I think most humans have.

01:02:41.000 It's ruined by schools.

01:02:43.000 Because, one, you're there way longer than you should be.

01:02:46.000 There's no reason a kid should be in school for eight hours, nine hours sometimes.

01:02:50.000 Why would an eight-year-old need to be in school that long?

01:02:53.000 It's a real good question.

01:02:54.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:02:55.000 What are you teaching a ten-year-old?

01:02:59.000 In eight hours.

01:03:00.000 That they're going to remember.

01:03:02.000 Yeah, and also, you don't have to have recess.

01:03:04.000 You don't have to have all these extra things.

01:03:06.000 You can shorten all this down, make it more streamlined, and have kids home.

01:03:11.000 It's just to prepare people for a nine-to-five.

01:03:13.000 And so many households have both parents working, so it's like, well, it is kind of nice to not have a babysitter.

01:03:19.000 You just send your kid to school and have your kid be a latchkey kid, like I was.

01:03:24.000 Like I was, too.

01:03:25.000 Yeah, that was a normal thing back then.

01:03:28.000 No one thought twice about letting your kids just go outside.

01:03:31.000 Like all the kids in the neighborhood, we all grew up like that.

01:03:33.000 We all would just go over each other's houses.

01:03:35.000 We'd just come home from school, nobody's home, you had a key.

01:03:38.000 Yeah, I would just come in and...

01:03:40.000 Sort of like playing guitar or something.

01:03:41.000 I mean, I didn't go around the neighborhood.

01:03:43.000 It was a lot of meth labs.

01:03:45.000 A lot of fully functioning meth labs.

01:03:46.000 You lived in meth labs when you were a kid?

01:03:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:03:48.000 No shit, dude. 0.98

01:03:49.000 Fully functioning. 0.99

01:03:50.000 Where'd you live?

01:03:51.000 Well, East Texas, which is...

01:03:52.000 Don't, you know, don't have to say, don't rat anybody out.

01:03:54.000 Don't get the address.

01:03:58.000 There's some meth head right now. 1.00

01:03:59.000 It's like, the motherfucker! 1.00

01:04:00.000 I remember him! 1.00

01:04:01.000 I'm gonna fucking find him! 0.98

01:04:03.000 Well, they've actually all kind of blown themselves up since then. 0.99

01:04:06.000 Funny how that works.

01:04:07.000 Yeah, it's a...

01:04:08.000 Yeah, nature really has a way to take care of itself, you know?

01:04:11.000 That is such a crazy decision to make.

01:04:13.000 I'm going to cook meth in a trailer.

01:04:15.000 Yeah, one blew up.

01:04:16.000 Like, the one next to my house blew up not that long ago.

01:04:21.000 Like, I was just asleep.

01:04:22.000 I thought I heard a shotgun and looked and there was just fire.

01:04:24.000 And I was like, what is this?

01:04:25.000 I'm imagining a slow-mo of the trailer blowing up with that Oliver Anthony song playing in the background.

01:04:32.000 Yeah, you wouldn't be far off.

01:04:35.000 Boom! 0.99

01:04:36.000 Yeah, it's pretty close.

01:04:38.000 Yeah, meth labs are known.

01:04:39.000 They are known to go up badly.

01:04:41.000 Yeah, it was not a neighborhood that you go ride bikes around and play and stuff like that.

01:04:47.000 But because you're cooking meth and you're on meth.

01:04:49.000 Yeah.

01:04:50.000 And even if you're not on meth, you're in contact with it all the time, so you're probably getting at least a skin high.

01:04:56.000 Well, and they're not using, like, you know...

01:04:58.000 High-grade equipment.

01:05:00.000 I mean, they're wearing, like, you know, some, like, cheap gloves, maybe.

01:05:05.000 I mean, most of it's barehanded, you know.

01:05:06.000 They're like old-school hat makers, you know, that would get mercury poisoning and go crazy.

01:05:10.000 What's really crazy is that we look at that and we say, that is so nuts that people take meth.

01:05:15.000 Why would you do that?

01:05:17.000 And yet, what percentage of kids today are on Adderall?

01:05:21.000 Which is the exact same thing, just a slow release, a delayed release meth.

01:05:25.000 What percentage, if you had a guess?

01:05:28.000 I mean, it's probably lower than we think, because in my head I think it's like 40%, but it's probably about 15%.

01:05:34.000 If I'm really guessing, like trying to win some money.

01:05:37.000 God, that's a lot.

01:05:38.000 That's still a lot.

01:05:39.000 That's still so many kids.

01:05:41.000 That's crazy.

01:05:41.000 More than 1 out of 10. And that's so crazy.

01:05:45.000 That's just the idea of that.

01:05:46.000 It's so nuts.

01:05:47.000 They're all on meth.

01:05:49.000 Yeah.

01:05:50.000 Yeah.

01:05:50.000 And that's an ADHD thing, right?

01:05:52.000 They give it to you when you have ADHD.

01:05:53.000 Yeah.

01:05:54.000 If you had ADHD medication when I was a kid, I would have run through – I would have taken my clothes off and ran through the woods.

01:06:01.000 Well, yeah, yeah.

01:06:02.000 I'd be like, ah!

01:06:05.000 Well, what's crazy is it just turns kids into a zombie.

01:06:08.000 Yeah.

01:06:08.000 Like, it's – It's so sad.

01:06:11.000 Like, I used to work in a pharmacy for a long time, and just seeing, like, how many parents are coming in there and giving their kids, and their kids just, like, zonked out.

01:06:19.000 They look like they're in one floor of the cuckoo's nest, you know?

01:06:23.000 And they're just like, oh, here's my kid.

01:06:25.000 This, like, high-level amount of, you know, Ritalin or whatever, Vyvanse, you know, Adderall.

01:06:32.000 Like, it is wild.

01:06:34.000 Yeah, it's spooky.

01:06:34.000 It was a party drug.

01:06:36.000 It's spooky that you can get a doctor to tell you that's cool, too.

01:06:39.000 As long as the doctor tells you it's okay.

01:06:41.000 Yeah, he needs that.

01:06:42.000 Oh, great.

01:06:42.000 Look, we got medication for him.

01:06:44.000 We're gonna be fine.

01:06:44.000 Little Billy's gonna be fine.

01:06:45.000 Because you come home from school, from work, rather, your feet hurt, you fucking sit down, take your shoes off, the kid's fucking sword fighting with his brother in the middle of the living room, like, hey, you gotta stop. 0.99

01:06:54.000 You gotta listen to me. 1.00

01:06:55.000 Hey, you little fucker! 1.00

01:06:57.000 You're so tired. 1.00

01:06:58.000 Your ankle hurts.

01:06:58.000 You can't get up.

01:07:00.000 You're like, medicate this little motherfucker. 1.00

01:07:02.000 Medicate him. 1.00

01:07:03.000 Yeah, because it's easy to do.

01:07:05.000 And you have a doctor telling you it's okay, so that immediately gives you some reassurance.

01:07:09.000 Why would a medical professional tell me this is okay?

01:07:12.000 He's a medical professional, and he gives me my medication, which allows me to get through my day as well.

01:07:19.000 That's that great Rolling Stones song.

01:07:20.000 Remember that?

01:07:21.000 Mother's Little Helper? 0.91

01:07:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:24.000 That's what it's called, right?

01:07:25.000 Yeah, it is. 1.00

01:07:26.000 Great fucking song. 1.00

01:07:28.000 Running for the shelter. 1.00

01:07:29.000 Yeah, I think that was the Valium days, right?

01:07:32.000 Was that what it was?

01:07:33.000 Well, yeah.

01:07:34.000 I mean, I don't know if they didn't necessarily call it that, but there was like speed and Valium.

01:07:38.000 Right.

01:07:38.000 Like an upper and a downer.

01:07:40.000 Right.

01:07:40.000 You know, you take the upper to get all your chores done as a housewife, and then you take the downer so you didn't kill your kids.

01:07:46.000 They prescribed those to people like candy.

01:07:50.000 Yeah.

01:07:51.000 Forever.

01:07:52.000 And then they figured out that Valium is like super addictive, right?

01:07:55.000 Yeah, I think they legitimately didn't know back then.

01:07:58.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

01:07:59.000 Any excuse after that, you're out of your mind.

01:08:01.000 Like, the Oxycontin, you know, and all that.

01:08:04.000 Oh, for sure.

01:08:04.000 They knew about Oxycontin.

01:08:06.000 They knew that was essentially heroin.

01:08:07.000 I mean, that's one of the great moments in that Peter Berg docu-series on Netflix, docudrama series, where the guy is breaking it down to him.

01:08:18.000 The doctor's breaking it down to him.

01:08:19.000 When the hot girl comes in, she's pitching that stuff, and he's like, you're selling heroin.

01:08:24.000 This is exactly the same thing as heroin.

01:08:26.000 You tell him I should put my patients on heroin?

01:08:29.000 What are you doing? 1.00

01:08:31.000 Like, you know, the lone ethical doctor in the, you know, fucking shitty little house that he lives in. 0.99

01:08:37.000 Yeah, because he doesn't make the big money. 0.99

01:08:39.000 Because he doesn't make the big money because he's a good guy.

01:08:41.000 Which is, like, unfortunately not unrealistic.

01:08:45.000 No, that's how it is.

01:08:46.000 Because if you prescribe it, they give you, you know, a $500 gift card to, you know, a steakhouse.

01:08:52.000 They'll, you know, they'll buy you a new car.

01:08:54.000 Well, all that stuff's nuts.

01:08:56.000 You know, like with a certain amount of vaccines, if 60% of your patients or more are vaccinated, you get a larger incentive.

01:09:03.000 So you're like pushing it.

01:09:05.000 The whole thing is nuts.

01:09:06.000 It's nuts that that's legal.

01:09:08.000 Incentivizing anything...

01:09:10.000 Medical.

01:09:11.000 Medical is...

01:09:12.000 I mean, why are you doing that?

01:09:14.000 Dude, there was a guy that got arrested.

01:09:16.000 I forget how many patients it was, but he was an oncologist and he was giving people chemotherapy that didn't have cancer.

01:09:24.000 Because chemotherapy is very profitable. 1.00

01:09:27.000 So this piece of shit was telling people that they had cancer and then giving them fucking chemotherapy just for money. 1.00

01:09:35.000 That sucks. 1.00

01:09:36.000 There's a special place in hell for that. 1.00

01:09:37.000 And it was like a bunch of people.

01:09:39.000 And I think he had some insane excuse when they asked.

01:09:43.000 You know that you eat what you kill?

01:09:45.000 You know that philosophy that they kind of have in medical school?

01:09:49.000 Like you have to do surgeries because that's how you get your money.

01:09:52.000 Yep.

01:09:54.000 I thought you were fixing folks.

01:09:56.000 I didn't think this is all about you making money.

01:09:59.000 That's crazy.

01:10:00.000 And the fact that they incentivize you to do that.

01:10:04.000 So a pharmaceutical drug company can incentivize you to push their stuff.

01:10:09.000 Right.

01:10:10.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:10:10.000 Yeah, to push their medicine over another medicine, even though their medicine might have worse side effects or maybe not even be the exact right one. 0.71

01:10:17.000 Yeah.

01:10:18.000 I'm on a couple pharmaceuticals.

01:10:20.000 What are you on?

01:10:22.000 Effexor.

01:10:23.000 And I took a Klonopin about two hours ago.

01:10:26.000 A very small dose.

01:10:28.000 It actually did absolutely nothing.

01:10:30.000 Maybe it kicks in at five.

01:10:32.000 We'll find out.

01:10:34.000 What is a Fexor?

01:10:35.000 Is that an SSRI?

01:10:36.000 Yeah, it's an SSRI.

01:10:38.000 And when did you start getting on that stuff?

01:10:39.000 I started taking those probably 2013.

01:10:44.000 Yeah.

01:10:44.000 And I've never noticed a difference.

01:10:46.000 I just keep taking them because I think at some point it's going to work.

01:10:50.000 What?

01:10:50.000 I mean, you never know.

01:10:54.000 Sometimes there's like a delay in the effectiveness.

01:10:58.000 Have you ever gone off them just to see what it feels like?

01:11:00.000 Yeah, because I started, well, whenever I started drinking a lot, I was like, it said you're not supposed to do both.

01:11:06.000 I'll just take the alcohol.

01:11:08.000 I'll take the depressant over the antidepressant.

01:11:10.000 Well, the alcohol worked, for sure.

01:11:12.000 Oh, really, interesting.

01:11:13.000 Well, that night it worked real well, and then the next day it's like, you know.

01:11:16.000 That's the problem.

01:11:17.000 Yeah, I mean, if my ceiling was stronger, I'd have a noose hanging up there, but yeah.

01:11:21.000 Well, you know, it's like someone's got to design a better alcohol.

01:11:24.000 Someone's got to design something that, first of all, doesn't massively fuck up your motor functions.

01:11:31.000 You know, which is the most dangerous part of alcohol.

01:11:34.000 It's like, your body's not functioning right.

01:11:35.000 I want that to happen.

01:11:37.000 I like that.

01:11:39.000 I like the whole feeling.

01:11:41.000 You like just stumbling?

01:11:42.000 Yeah.

01:11:43.000 Being hammered?

01:11:43.000 Yeah, I like waking up and being like, why is my knee bleeding?

01:11:47.000 Like, that's a great feeling.

01:11:50.000 This is definitely fun to be had.

01:11:52.000 But it's just like you're agreeing, just like you're agreeing when you're smoking cigarettes.

01:11:56.000 Like, I'm giving up some health here for this experience.

01:12:01.000 There's like a quote.

01:12:03.000 I don't know whose it is.

01:12:04.000 It's definitely not mine.

01:12:05.000 But, like, getting drunk is you're just buying happiness from tomorrow.

01:12:09.000 It's a great quote.

01:12:10.000 I mean, it makes sense.

01:12:11.000 It is great.

01:12:11.000 Because that is what you're doing.

01:12:12.000 You're getting twice as happy.

01:12:13.000 But tomorrow, you're going to have zero happiness.

01:12:17.000 And I was buying, like, weeks ahead.

01:12:19.000 Yeah.

01:12:20.000 Well, some people just keep that, like Burt Kreischer, he just keeps that party rolling.

01:12:24.000 He never stops.

01:12:24.000 Well, he just knocked out a 5K.

01:12:26.000 Good for him.

01:12:27.000 I got invited to go do that, and I couldn't turn that down fast enough.

01:12:31.000 I was like, you...

01:12:33.000 I was like, y 'all...

01:12:34.000 No.

01:12:35.000 No, I'm not gonna go run a 5K, unless someone's chasing me.

01:12:38.000 Bro, Jelly Roll has lost something insane.

01:12:41.000 I think he's down 140 pounds.

01:12:44.000 I thought it was even more than that, but maybe...

01:12:46.000 Is it more than that?

01:12:47.000 I think.

01:12:48.000 I don't want to say.

01:12:49.000 It's an insane amount.

01:12:50.000 He looks so good.

01:12:51.000 He looks different.

01:12:53.000 He looks like a different person.

01:12:54.000 It is wild.

01:12:55.000 That's a lot.

01:12:55.000 I mean...

01:12:56.000 Yeah, see, 180 is what I thought I had heard.

01:13:00.000 Unbelievable.

01:13:01.000 Unbelievable.

01:13:03.000 I mean, that's a...

01:13:04.000 That's unbelievable.

01:13:05.000 That's an adult human.

01:13:06.000 See if there's a video, I think, that's on Burt Kreischer's Instagram of Burt with him on stage.

01:13:12.000 And Burt is bigger than Jelly Roll.

01:13:15.000 He's not.

01:13:16.000 But he's right next to him, and Jelly Roll is almost unrecognizable.

01:13:20.000 Yeah.

01:13:21.000 I mean, he's so much thinner.

01:13:22.000 He looks great, and he's committed. 0.98

01:13:26.000 He's, like, fucking all in on this, all in on being healthy. 0.99

01:13:29.000 I gotta do it. 0.99

01:13:30.000 He ran a 5K.

01:13:32.000 Look at that.

01:13:33.000 Yeah, there it was, yeah.

01:13:35.000 Boy.

01:13:36.000 Look at Burt.

01:13:37.000 Burt's bigger than him.

01:13:38.000 Look, I'm not lying.

01:13:39.000 No, you're really not.

01:13:41.000 Yeah, that's...

01:13:41.000 Jelly Roll looks like a totally different human being.

01:13:44.000 Yeah, I mean, he looks good.

01:13:46.000 He looks great.

01:13:47.000 I mean, that's crazy.

01:13:48.000 That's extraordinary.

01:13:50.000 Extraordinary that he's been able to do that.

01:13:51.000 Yeah.

01:13:53.000 In how long?

01:13:54.000 I mean, it hasn't been that long.

01:13:55.000 I mean...

01:13:56.000 I don't think.

01:13:57.000 I think...

01:13:58.000 Yeah, that's...

01:14:03.000 His weight loss, he wanted to lose 100 pounds, it says his first goal.

01:14:08.000 Okay, so he passed that goal in 2024.

01:14:10.000 Okay, so he'd already lost 100 pounds by 2024.

01:14:13.000 Okay.

01:14:14.000 So here we are in May of 2025.

01:14:18.000 Next year he says half marathon.

01:14:20.000 Wow.

01:14:21.000 Whoa.

01:14:21.000 I mean, he could.

01:14:22.000 Why not?

01:14:23.000 Why not?

01:14:24.000 Yeah, if he did 5K, he can do it.

01:14:26.000 5K is what, three and a half miles?

01:14:27.000 Uh-huh.

01:14:28.000 Yeah.

01:14:29.000 Wow.

01:14:29.000 So I have marathons 13.1?

01:14:32.000 Or 13, I guess.

01:14:34.000 His weight goal is to be under 250 pounds.

01:14:38.000 Well, he'll definitely be there.

01:14:39.000 He said to do all the fun stuff in life, you've got to be under 250.

01:14:45.000 Skydiving, ride a roller coaster, riding a bull, and wrestling an alligator.

01:14:49.000 Oh, don't do a lot of those things. 0.99

01:14:50.000 I'll tell you what, you know, the wrestling an alligator thing, I can tell you from firsthand experience, you can be any weight and wrestle a fucking alligator. 0.98

01:14:56.000 Really? 0.99

01:14:57.000 Why not?

01:14:58.000 I mean, I feel like the bigger you are... 0.98

01:14:59.000 If you're going to die, you're going to die. 0.96

01:15:00.000 Well, I figure the bigger you are, the better at wrestling you are for an alligator. 0.80

01:15:05.000 You don't want to be 120 pounds and jump on the back of an alligator.

01:15:08.000 That's true, but you don't even want to be 300 pounds and jump on the back of an alligator because they roll.

01:15:12.000 Like, their whole thing is rolling.

01:15:14.000 But they wouldn't be able to roll quite as much.

01:15:16.000 If I'm on the back of an alligator, that thing is not budging.

01:15:19.000 Boy, I think you're wrong.

01:15:21.000 That could be true.

01:15:21.000 I think you're really wrong.

01:15:22.000 It wouldn't be the first time.

01:15:24.000 I'm really sure you're wrong.

01:15:26.000 I would like to test it.

01:15:27.000 I don't want you to.

01:15:28.000 You seem like a nice guy.

01:15:29.000 I've seen so many videos.

01:15:31.000 Especially Crocs, when dudes put their arm in a Croc and the Croc says, like, not today.

01:15:36.000 Stop! 1.00

01:15:37.000 Well, see, Crocodile's different.

01:15:38.000 Crocodile's very vicious.

01:15:40.000 An alligator's basically just a giant turtle.

01:15:42.000 I mean, you could just smack that thing around.

01:15:44.000 It's not going to do anything to you.

01:15:45.000 Eh, they eat people.

01:15:47.000 They'll get you.

01:15:48.000 They still eat people.

01:15:50.000 I'm not a toddler.

01:15:51.000 No, they'll eat a grown adult if they get a hold of you. 1.00

01:15:53.000 They'll take you and drag you under a log. 0.99

01:15:55.000 It's just they're not as aggressive as crocs. 0.99

01:15:57.000 Crocs actively target people, whereas alligators are like, if you fuck up, there's a fun story. 0.96

01:16:02.000 A guy was in a police chase in Florida. 1.00

01:16:05.000 Cops are chasing him, gets to a bridge, jumps out of the car, into the water, lands on an alligator, and just gets mauled right in front of the cops.

01:16:15.000 He gets killed by an alligator right from a big and two.

01:16:19.000 It was like, again, like the book coming out today.

01:16:23.000 Sometimes the universe is there with a 13-footer.

01:16:27.000 That's wild.

01:16:28.000 Right when you dive in, you're like, oh no!

01:16:30.000 Clamp! 1.00

01:16:32.000 Grabs a hold of your head, starts rolling.

01:16:35.000 Yeah.

01:16:35.000 Have you ever been close to one?

01:16:37.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

01:16:38.000 Yeah, I've snuck up on, well, accidentally snuck up on one once, and it is, it's kind of terrifying hearing the, I can't make the sound, but that like, you know, that sound they make. 1.00

01:16:49.000 Bro, they're dinosaurs.

01:16:50.000 They're heartless, soulless eating machines.

01:16:53.000 Yeah, I was going to take a piss by a tree and just heard that sound, and I was like, and it was nighttime, so I'm like, oh, I don't like that that just happened.

01:17:02.000 That's not good.

01:17:03.000 And look around, there's one, not like...

01:17:05.000 Super close, but close enough to get a good look and be like, ooh.

01:17:08.000 When I was a kid, I lived in Florida from age 11 to 13. We lived in Gainesville, which was by this place called Lake Alice.

01:17:17.000 And Lake Alice had all kinds of alligators.

01:17:20.000 And people would go there and feed them marshmallows.

01:17:23.000 Chuck marshmallows in the water.

01:17:25.000 And then they eventually told you, hey, stop doing that.

01:17:27.000 It's bad for the alligators. 0.60

01:17:28.000 But alligators were like a protected species back then.

01:17:31.000 I'd have been dressing up like an alligator so quick.

01:17:33.000 But it was so weird.

01:17:36.000 Yeah, that's wild.

01:17:37.000 Like, I lived in San Francisco before that, so you see nothing.

01:17:40.000 And then all of a sudden, dinosaurs.

01:17:41.000 Like, legit dinosaurs. 0.99

01:17:43.000 And I remember being a little kid thinking, why is everybody so goddamn comfortable being around these huge fucking lizards? 0.98

01:17:49.000 It is crazy when you go to Florida, because I'm pretty close to Caddo Lake. 0.99

01:17:53.000 I don't know if you're familiar with Caddo Lake, but it's like the largest natural lake in Texas.

01:17:59.000 It looks like you went back in time 5 million years, 60 million years.

01:18:03.000 Like, it's the scariest looking place on the planet.

01:18:06.000 And they're just filled with alligators.

01:18:08.000 So we would go there as a kid all the time, and yeah, you'd see alligators, and you're just like...

01:18:12.000 But nobody cares.

01:18:12.000 Like, people were just, like, out barbecuing, like, grilling up against the...

01:18:16.000 And, you know, obviously the meat being around, like, these alligators just come up.

01:18:20.000 They just don't care.

01:18:21.000 They're just like, all right.

01:18:22.000 That's so crazy.

01:18:24.000 Yeah.

01:18:24.000 So crazy that people just tolerate dinosaurs.

01:18:27.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess just, you know, they don't do anything to people.

01:18:31.000 Like, unprovoked, really.

01:18:33.000 Like, as far as I know.

01:18:35.000 Well, they can.

01:18:36.000 They certainly can.

01:18:37.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:18:38.000 But they're just like, they're so overpopulated now.

01:18:41.000 Yeah.

01:18:41.000 They're all over Florida.

01:18:43.000 They say essentially any body of water in Florida that's still, there's a potential for an alligator being inside of it.

01:18:48.000 Because they just travel at night and go into a new lake and sit there and wait.

01:18:52.000 They can hold their breath for hours.

01:18:54.000 God.

01:18:54.000 I would like to get on them.

01:18:55.000 They don't have to eat for a year.

01:18:57.000 Like, what?

01:18:58.000 Like, what?

01:18:59.000 What are we doing?

01:18:59.000 Jesus.

01:19:00.000 Oh, my God!

01:19:02.000 Oh, that is.

01:19:03.000 Yep, yep, yep, yep.

01:19:05.000 Have you ever heard of alligator gars?

01:19:08.000 Yeah, we have them.

01:19:09.000 Yeah, so like my family, a lot of them live in Gonzales.

01:19:11.000 I don't know if I'm familiar where that is, but probably San Antonio.

01:19:14.000 And they go like bow fishing for guards.

01:19:16.000 And we used to go fishing for guards, like in a spillway. 1.00

01:19:18.000 Just fish for these bastards. 1.00

01:19:20.000 You can't eat them or grow them. 1.00

01:19:21.000 Apparently you can.

01:19:22.000 You can smoke them.

01:19:23.000 That's what I heard. 1.00

01:19:23.000 We would just pull them up and then smash their head with a rock. 1.00

01:19:26.000 How rude. 0.99

01:19:26.000 Yeah, well, I mean, why were I supposed to say that? 0.99

01:19:29.000 My point was some guy just caught a world record in Texas.

01:19:32.000 Really?

01:19:32.000 I think he was out in...

01:19:35.000 Lakeway?

01:19:35.000 I forget where it was, but it was seven feet long.

01:19:39.000 See if you could find it.

01:19:40.000 And he caught it on, like, two-pound test or something crazy.

01:19:43.000 No, I mean, that was a lake trout.

01:19:45.000 Different story.

01:19:45.000 There's got to be bigger ones than that.

01:19:48.000 Than seven feet.

01:19:49.000 I wonder if it was...

01:19:51.000 Jesus Christ.

01:19:51.000 Look at the size of that thing, man.

01:19:53.000 That's so crazy!

01:19:54.000 That is...

01:19:55.000 Houston Chronicle.

01:19:56.000 So look at the size of that thing.

01:19:57.000 Oh, my God.

01:19:59.000 That's so big.

01:20:01.000 212 pound alligator gar.

01:20:03.000 And those things, man, look like they're from a different era.

01:20:08.000 Those things look like they're not supposed to exist. 0.99

01:20:10.000 Like, that is a goddamn prehistoric creature. 0.98

01:20:13.000 Pull up some photos, Jamie, of alligator cars. 0.99

01:20:16.000 They also don't attack people.

01:20:18.000 No.

01:20:19.000 No, they don't.

01:20:19.000 Like, very kind of skittish.

01:20:21.000 But my kids found out that they're in lakes now, and they're like, fuck this. 0.99

01:20:25.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:20:27.000 I don't blame them.

01:20:28.000 You don't want to take a chance at those things.

01:20:30.000 Look at their face.

01:20:31.000 Like, look at that photo.

01:20:32.000 Look at that face, man.

01:20:33.000 That looks like something from a book on dinosaurs, right?

01:20:36.000 Yeah, it's like a sturgeon.

01:20:38.000 Like this huge-ass sturgeon in Alaska where you're like, oh. 0.56

01:20:41.000 From a different time. 0.69

01:20:41.000 Yeah. 0.69

01:20:42.000 Like a sturgeon.

01:20:42.000 It looks like it doesn't belong in this time.

01:20:44.000 Look at that thing, man.

01:20:45.000 I don't like that at all.

01:20:47.000 But even the eyes, it just looks primitive. 0.99

01:20:50.000 Like a shit early design. 0.99

01:20:51.000 Like a 1955 Ford. 0.99

01:20:53.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:54.000 It's like, what were you doing back then? 1.00

01:20:56.000 That's a shit design. 1.00

01:20:58.000 That stupid eyeball at the end of the mouth looks dumb. 1.00

01:21:01.000 Right? 1.00

01:21:02.000 Make that picture bigger.

01:21:03.000 The one that's big right now. 0.95

01:21:06.000 Look how fucking crazy that is. 0.98

01:21:09.000 God! 1.00

01:21:11.000 I mean, it's so crazy.

01:21:13.000 Look at that thing, man.

01:21:14.000 Oh, they only give you a small version.

01:21:16.000 Isn't that weird?

01:21:17.000 What a weird, even if you open it.

01:21:19.000 Oh, there it is.

01:21:19.000 That's so strange, the thing.

01:21:21.000 Wow.

01:21:22.000 But look how bad that design is.

01:21:24.000 That's like, you know what it's like?

01:21:26.000 It's like, you ever see like a Dodge Charger, like a 69 Charger, a badass looking car, but like, why is it so long and goofy?

01:21:33.000 Like, what's going on here?

01:21:34.000 It's like old time.

01:21:35.000 They hadn't figured out proportions yet.

01:21:37.000 It looks weird.

01:21:38.000 That thing looks weird.

01:21:39.000 It doesn't look modern.

01:21:41.000 It looks like it's from a different time.

01:21:42.000 It's definitely not mine.

01:21:43.000 Why does it have a nose? 0.59

01:21:45.000 Probably slammed into things.

01:21:47.000 No, that's like a real nostril.

01:21:50.000 Unless they can breathe above.

01:21:52.000 Is that a nostril, you think?

01:21:55.000 Well, it does look like a nostril.

01:21:57.000 See if there's other ones that show that same thing.

01:21:59.000 That's crazy if that's a nostril.

01:22:01.000 That could just be a hole in its nose.

01:22:02.000 It could, but I think...

01:22:03.000 Unless they're like...

01:22:05.000 Oh God, it does look like a nostril.

01:22:07.000 They all have a little nostril.

01:22:09.000 Find out if can alligator gars breathe air.

01:22:12.000 Because there are some fish that gulp air.

01:22:14.000 Have you ever seen that?

01:22:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:15.000 Where they go up and they actually can gulp air if there's no oxygen in the water.

01:22:20.000 I mean, these things all look like they have nostrils.

01:22:22.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:22:23.000 They have nostrils.

01:22:24.000 But their primary respiratory organ is a swim bladder, which can be used to breathe in air when needed, especially in low-oxygen environments.

01:22:31.000 Wow.

01:22:31.000 But they do breathe using gills at the top.

01:22:33.000 So they have gills and nostrils.

01:22:36.000 That's nuts.

01:22:38.000 It says, like most fish have nostrils.

01:22:40.000 I didn't know that.

01:22:41.000 Most fish have nostrils?

01:22:42.000 Whoa.

01:22:43.000 However, they have a unique adaptation, a swim bladder connected to their mouth.

01:22:48.000 Whoa.

01:22:49.000 And swim bladder functions as a lung, allowing them to breathe air.

01:22:52.000 Jesus.

01:22:53.000 See, that's why they're still around.

01:22:54.000 I don't like this. 1.00

01:22:55.000 When did these motherfuckers first start being around? 1.00

01:22:57.000 Like, how long have they been on Earth for? 1.00

01:22:59.000 I'm going to guess...

01:23:00.000 Millions.

01:23:01.000 Oh, yeah.

01:23:03.000 Millions.

01:23:03.000 Oh, 100%.

01:23:03.000 That seems like a many-million-year-old fish.

01:23:06.000 I would guess, like, 100...

01:23:09.000 Oh, there it is.

01:23:10.000 100 million.

01:23:11.000 In the Cretaceous.

01:23:12.000 So that's pre-dinosaur death.

01:23:16.000 Yeah, 65 million.

01:23:17.000 So they were around long before that.

01:23:21.000 Yeah, they overlapped for 35 million years.

01:23:23.000 Isn't that nuts?

01:23:25.000 But that's essentially a prehistoric creature that you can go shoot with a bow. 0.99

01:23:30.000 Yeah, or like me, smash his head in with your rock while your uncle's drunk. 0.94

01:23:34.000 Kind of crazy that that's an activity that people do.

01:23:39.000 But I do hear that you can smoke them and they taste good.

01:23:43.000 I'll leave that up to...

01:23:45.000 You won't give it a try?

01:23:46.000 Like, if someone's really good and they cook for you?

01:23:48.000 And they're like, just try it.

01:23:49.000 Dude, try it. 1.00

01:23:50.000 I'd pretty much try anything.

01:23:52.000 So, yeah, I've eaten worse things.

01:23:53.000 I had beaver once.

01:23:55.000 I bet you, yeah.

01:23:57.000 Well, really, why was it?

01:23:59.000 That's right, bro.

01:24:00.000 Me too, one day, I hope.

01:24:02.000 No, me and my friend Brian Callen and Steve Rinella.

01:24:06.000 It was on his television show, Meat Eater, and they trapped a beaver, and he cooked it.

01:24:10.000 He made it like a pot roast. 0.99

01:24:11.000 It was fucking delicious. 0.99

01:24:12.000 It was really good. 0.99

01:24:14.000 I'd try it.

01:24:15.000 But Steve's like an excellent cook.

01:24:16.000 Yeah.

01:24:17.000 He has cookbooks.

01:24:19.000 He's an excellent cook.

01:24:20.000 So he really knows how to make something delicious.

01:24:21.000 He cooks on the show.

01:24:22.000 Yeah, all the time.

01:24:24.000 Yeah, I'd try it.

01:24:27.000 I mean, there's not really any...

01:24:28.000 I'd eat a dog.

01:24:29.000 I'd try it.

01:24:30.000 I couldn't eat a dog.

01:24:31.000 I couldn't eat a person.

01:24:32.000 Like, I could eat a person if I had to eat a person.

01:24:35.000 I don't think it would take all that much.

01:24:37.000 Well, I think historically, you've been proven to be correct.

01:24:40.000 Yeah.

01:24:41.000 You want some coffee?

01:24:42.000 Do you drink coffee?

01:24:42.000 No, I'm good.

01:24:43.000 I'm good.

01:24:44.000 Yeah, historically, when push comes to shove, people will eat people.

01:24:47.000 Yeah, I mean, what was the name?

01:24:49.000 General Butt Naked?

01:24:50.000 You ever heard of him?

01:24:51.000 Oh, yeah.

01:24:51.000 Yeah, he was eating people.

01:24:53.000 I mean, that's how he busted that guy at that market that was serving human meat.

01:24:58.000 That guy killed and ate people, and then he was forgiven because he found Jesus.

01:25:02.000 Yeah, at the Hague.

01:25:04.000 And then he became a pastor.

01:25:06.000 Amazing. 1.00

01:25:07.000 He would take off all his clothes and go into battle and kill people while he's butt naked. 1.00

01:25:12.000 With a machete. 1.00

01:25:13.000 With a machete. 1.00

01:25:14.000 He would find children, kill them, cut their heart out, and eat it so that he would become invincible. 1.00

01:25:20.000 Eat the heart of his enemy's children. 1.00

01:25:23.000 It worked.

01:25:24.000 He's still alive.

01:25:28.000 That's the thing.

01:25:29.000 You can dismiss it all you want.

01:25:31.000 Yeah, but the proof is in the pudding, as they say.

01:25:33.000 The devil has very specific rules, if you want the superpower.

01:25:37.000 From monster to minister, is the past about to catch up to Liberia's war criminals?

01:25:40.000 So that's the thing, is Liberia, okay?

01:25:42.000 Do you know the history of Liberia?

01:25:43.000 Yeah, with James Monroe and Monroe v.

01:25:45.000 I mean, well, I know, like, that it was a colony, basically to send...

01:25:49.000 African slaves back to Africa. 0.95

01:25:53.000 Exactly.

01:25:53.000 Yeah, that's why the capital is Monrovia.

01:25:55.000 It's named after James Monroe.

01:25:56.000 It is an insane place.

01:25:58.000 In the weeks before he found Jesus, the evangelist formerly known as General Butt-Naked reckons he was sacrificing four or five children a day.

01:26:06.000 Oh my God.

01:26:08.000 Murder had long come naturally to him.

01:26:10.000 He was only 11 when the elders who had steeped him in the ways of witchcraft first handed him the sacrificial knife.

01:26:17.000 But he never killed with such intensity and ferocity as during those weeks in mid-1996, when Liberia's first civil war reached its calamitous climax on the blood-soaked streets of Monrovia, the country's death.

01:26:30.000 trees battered capital several times a day the warlord and his battalion of boys all naked as he was would emerge into the maelstrom firing wildly as they added their own breed of terror to the chaos wow yet the bloodletting always began before a single bullet had been fired before each engagement butt naked pagan priest and holy warrior would lay a child face down on the sacrificial table slice open its victims back and pull out they're still beating heart thus 0.93

01:27:00.000 ensuring magical protection for the coming back Yikes. 1.00

01:27:05.000 Fucking yo. 0.99

01:27:07.000 It's not really like a nice thing to do to someone. 1.00

01:27:10.000 I mean, fucking yo. 1.00

01:27:11.000 Yeah, that's insane. 1.00

01:27:12.000 I mean, I don't care if he found Jesus.

01:27:14.000 But he found Jesus.

01:27:15.000 Hold on.

01:27:16.000 He found Jesus.

01:27:17.000 Is that actually why he got let off?

01:27:20.000 More than 20 years later, General Buttnaget, nom de guerre, evangelist Joshua Milton Blahy, no longer cares to use, has never appeared in court for the war crimes he so freely admits to.

01:27:34.000 Neither for that matter has anyone else, not in Liberia at least.

01:27:38.000 That's pretty crazy.

01:27:39.000 So they didn't even try.

01:27:41.000 It's not like they got off.

01:27:42.000 They just didn't even try.

01:27:44.000 That's how bad that place is.

01:27:46.000 Yeah, because he was under, what's that guy's name, Charles Taylor?

01:27:48.000 Charles Taylor was an absolute nut job as well.

01:27:51.000 Have you ever seen Machine Gun Preacher with Gerard Butler?

01:27:54.000 No, I didn't.

01:27:55.000 Oh, you've got to watch that movie.

01:27:56.000 Yeah?

01:27:56.000 So good.

01:27:57.000 Machine Gun Preacher.

01:27:58.000 Yeah, it sounds like it.

01:27:59.000 When did this one come out?

01:28:01.000 Maybe 2014, 2015 or so.

01:28:04.000 It's decently old.

01:28:06.000 2011, okay.

01:28:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:28:08.000 But it's based on a true story of a guy who had some alcohol, like drug issues, I believe.

01:28:13.000 Here it is.

01:28:14.000 Machine Gun Preacher.

01:28:16.000 Yeah.

01:28:17.000 Whoa.

01:28:19.000 Okay.

01:28:20.000 Yeah, it's a...

01:28:21.000 I'll check that out.

01:28:22.000 Jamie, will you do me a favor or sign me in?

01:28:24.000 Nope.

01:28:25.000 Yeah, he went to Africa.

01:28:26.000 Like, this guy, yeah, went to Africa and started, like, building these, like, you know, kind of, I guess not orphanages, but, like, schools, basically.

01:28:33.000 And then, obviously, you know, the warlords would come in and burn these schools down because they didn't want them being built and try to take the money that's being donated.

01:28:41.000 So he started, like, going over there.

01:28:43.000 Like, he was, at one point, just kind of...

01:28:45.000 You know, getting money and sending it there.

01:28:48.000 And then he was like, well, I'll actually go over there with weapons and I'll protect these schools.

01:28:53.000 And that's basically what he did.

01:28:55.000 It's a pretty crazy story.

01:28:56.000 The movie, yeah, it's phenomenal.

01:28:58.000 Yeah, man. 0.98

01:28:59.000 There are parts of the world that are just fucking bananas. 0.99

01:29:02.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:29:03.000 Which is really great about the early days of Vice.

01:29:06.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:07.000 The early days of Vice, man.

01:29:08.000 They would go and interview General Butt-Naked. 0.98

01:29:10.000 That's where I heard about them.

01:29:11.000 It was the Cannibal Warlords of Liberia. 0.75

01:29:14.000 It was the documentary.

01:29:16.000 They would go everywhere.

01:29:18.000 All the crazy places.

01:29:19.000 They would go to all parts of the world.

01:29:21.000 Yeah.

01:29:22.000 It's amazing.

01:29:25.000 Just how crazy people are.

01:29:27.000 People that don't visit those places in the world, they don't see, like the look in the eyes of people that have been to all those dangerous parts.

01:29:35.000 Like my friend Shane, Shane Smith from Vice. 0.72

01:29:38.000 He's got this, when he starts talking about these places that he's been, especially the early days, he has an understanding of the dangers of the outside world that I think us in this little gated community we call the United States, we're very, very ignorant about how fucking sideways things have gone in other parts of the world right now.

01:29:57.000 While you're enjoying Netflix, cuddling up with your sweetheart, eating popcorn, there's parts of the world right now where someone's cutting out a child's heart to eat it before they go to battle.

01:30:07.000 Maybe not in the same timeline, but close enough.

01:30:10.000 I mean, just because he's not doing it doesn't mean somebody else isn't.

01:30:13.000 Who knows what's happening right now in certain war-torn parts of the world.

01:30:17.000 And we just think, well, you know, what we really need is equity.

01:30:22.000 We need to worry about the climate.

01:30:24.000 The climate change should be our number one priority.

01:30:28.000 Actually, you need to stay safe.

01:30:30.000 You need to fucking stay safe, and you need to understand there's a bunch of spots that aren't safe. 0.94

01:30:34.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:30:35.000 Well, and also, yeah, climate change.

01:30:37.000 Sure, worry about it.

01:30:38.000 But that kid's going to get his heart ripped out in the next 15 minutes.

01:30:42.000 Let's go ahead and worry about him.

01:30:43.000 That's probably number one.

01:30:44.000 And then, yeah, let's go ahead and worry about him for a little bit.

01:30:47.000 Then we'll go to climate after that.

01:30:48.000 People who are good people don't want to believe that there's bad people in the world.

01:30:53.000 And I understand that reluctance.

01:30:55.000 I understand that you have this perspective.

01:30:57.000 And in your world that you've cultivated, you probably are safe because you've cultivated this world of a bunch of people that share the worldview of you.

01:31:04.000 But when you enter into other people's spaces and you're ignorant to their culture and how crazy – like I read about this couple.

01:31:14.000 They decided they're going to prove that people were just good people everywhere and they went and hung out with ISIS and they killed them.

01:31:20.000 Did you read about that one, Jamie?

01:31:22.000 Do you know that story?

01:31:23.000 That is incredible.

01:31:24.000 I was like, you need better friends.

01:31:26.000 You need better friends.

01:31:27.000 You need better friends that show you some videos.

01:31:30.000 You know, that show you, like, this is what's going on in this part of the world.

01:31:33.000 Like, you have to understand, like, it is, you need to talk to someone who's maybe served in Afghanistan.

01:31:38.000 Like, you need to understand what's going on over there.

01:31:41.000 The problem is those people would never listen to that.

01:31:43.000 They'd be like, well, you just saw the bad side of ISIS. 0.99

01:31:47.000 Like, you got ISIS on a bad day.

01:31:50.000 I have a lighter that my friend Chris Williamson gave me that is from my comedy club that went to Antarctica because they took a group of people to show them that the world isn't flat.

01:32:01.000 They show them the sun.

01:32:03.000 Actually, it does go around like that.

01:32:05.000 You can watch it the whole time. 1.00

01:32:06.000 They're like, fuck! 1.00

01:32:09.000 Completely recalibrate! 1.00

01:32:11.000 Like that guy that tried to launch himself up in the sky to prove it and he died.

01:32:15.000 Yeah, that guy.

01:32:16.000 He needed better friends.

01:32:18.000 All these people just need better friends.

01:32:20.000 Like, yeah.

01:32:21.000 You need people around you.

01:32:23.000 Yeah.

01:32:25.000 Don't do that.

01:32:26.000 Yeah.

01:32:26.000 And just reassure them.

01:32:28.000 Just tell them it's flat.

01:32:29.000 Don't worry.

01:32:30.000 It is flat.

01:32:31.000 You don't got to worry about it.

01:32:32.000 Imagine if it was. 0.99

01:32:32.000 Like, imagine if all those morons were right and then everybody, all these scientists, all these saddles, all lies, all CGI. 0.99

01:32:39.000 They've all been in cahoots for this whole time. 1.00

01:32:42.000 Even, what's his name?

01:32:43.000 Was it Socrates or Aristotle?

01:32:44.000 I think Aristotle that mapped it out back in 3,000 years ago.

01:32:48.000 This is my take on it.

01:32:50.000 I firmly believe.

01:32:52.000 That at one point in time, there was a bunch of people that were uninformed that thought the world was flat way back in the day.

01:32:59.000 Yeah.

01:32:59.000 Then they figured it out with experiments.

01:33:00.000 And then you look at all the other bodies in the solar system.

01:33:03.000 Everything else is round.

01:33:04.000 Kind of makes sense.

01:33:05.000 You realize that this is how planets are formed, gravity and spins and the whole deal.

01:33:09.000 But then I think there's PSYOPs.

01:33:11.000 And I think a bunch of people went on there, just like they did with women with the free bleeding movement on 4chan. 1.00

01:33:17.000 They convinced women to just fucking bleed all over their crotch. 1.00

01:33:20.000 They convinced them. 1.00

01:33:21.000 And they did it by making it seem like a feminist thing. 1.00

01:33:25.000 Like, fuck the patriarchy. 1.00

01:33:26.000 I don't have to wear a fucking tampon. 1.00

01:33:28.000 I'm going to wear white pants. 1.00

01:33:29.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:33:30.000 Look at my blood. 1.00

01:33:31.000 And then women actually went and did it. 1.00

01:33:33.000 Because people will buy into almost anything.

01:33:36.000 They just...

01:33:37.000 There's a certain percentage of the population, whatever it is, that's so easily – they're so suggestible.

01:33:43.000 They're so easily influenced.

01:33:45.000 You can kind of talk them into almost anything.

01:33:48.000 And I think that's part of where the flat earth thing got sideways. 0.97

01:33:52.000 Because I think just like MKUltra used to exist, I think there's still some let's find out how dumb they are experiments. 0.99

01:33:59.000 There's also just a lot of real dumb people. 0.92

01:34:02.000 There's also just some people who like – they also want to like think that everything is a cover-up. 0.99

01:34:07.000 I don't trust NASA.

01:34:09.000 Like, why would I trust NASA?

01:34:11.000 I don't know.

01:34:11.000 Why not?

01:34:12.000 Like, we didn't go to the moon, so the Earth must be flat.

01:34:16.000 I guess if those two things are related, I don't know.

01:34:18.000 I mean, yeah, I just...

01:34:21.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that.

01:34:22.000 There's a lot of people that don't want to actually do research.

01:34:25.000 They want to watch a YouTube video and then start talking about it.

01:34:27.000 That's me.

01:34:28.000 That's my favorite thing.

01:34:29.000 Well, I'm with it.

01:34:30.000 Yeah, I'm with it too. 0.99

01:34:32.000 Yeah, I like a good deep dive, but sometimes just give me the damn... 0.99

01:34:35.000 Yeah, well, sometimes I'm just fucking around and I'm not really serious about whether or not I care if it's real. 0.99

01:34:40.000 I'm more interested to know about these emerald tablets. 0.76

01:34:43.000 Like, where are they?

01:34:44.000 Who's got them?

01:34:44.000 What do they say?

01:34:46.000 Like, I don't want to know.

01:34:47.000 It's a hoax. 0.99

01:34:49.000 But I'm only fucking around. 0.98

01:34:50.000 I'm not, like, completely invested in it. 0.93

01:34:52.000 But when you start making videos about how you're correct and the world is flat and everybody else is wrong, like...

01:35:00.000 No.

01:35:01.000 You're annoying. 0.98

01:35:02.000 This is silly. 0.99

01:35:02.000 You're just not seeing things correctly. 0.99

01:35:05.000 Yeah, there's a lot of lies.

01:35:06.000 Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracies.

01:35:07.000 It doesn't mean all of it.

01:35:09.000 It doesn't mean the stars are actually lights in the sky.

01:35:13.000 Interesting possibility is that it only exists when consciousness engages with it.

01:35:19.000 And that's the real simulation theory.

01:35:22.000 That's the real weirdness.

01:35:23.000 That's when things get like Tom Campbell, you know, my big toe, the theory of everything.

01:35:29.000 That's when things get really weird.

01:35:31.000 When instead of...

01:35:33.000 Consciousness is like a part of the creation of reality itself, that it's all integrated.

01:35:39.000 Jesus.

01:35:40.000 Yeah.

01:35:40.000 I don't like thinking about any of that stuff.

01:35:42.000 He wears me out.

01:35:43.000 Yeah, I don't like space.

01:35:46.000 I'll leave that alone.

01:35:47.000 I don't know.

01:35:48.000 Space.

01:35:49.000 Because also, like, what happened before?

01:35:51.000 Oh, yeah.

01:35:52.000 And then what happened before that?

01:35:54.000 There's an environment before the Big Bang.

01:35:57.000 Yeah.

01:35:58.000 I think they call it the environment.

01:35:59.000 Isn't that what it's called?

01:36:03.000 Yeah, what did they call it?

01:36:04.000 Brian Cox was explaining it to us.

01:36:06.000 I was like, what?

01:36:07.000 Oh, God, yeah.

01:36:08.000 All theoretical, of course.

01:36:09.000 Well, yeah, yeah.

01:36:10.000 Which is the problem, because then...

01:36:11.000 Like, sometimes it's just...

01:36:13.000 I don't know.

01:36:14.000 Like, I couldn't have that be...

01:36:16.000 Which, you know...

01:36:18.000 Great for, like, those people.

01:36:19.000 I could not have that be my life, is coming up with these theorems and, like, studying them.

01:36:23.000 Because you're never going to get an answer.

01:36:25.000 But it doesn't have to be you.

01:36:26.000 I need an answer.

01:36:26.000 I'm glad it's not you.

01:36:28.000 Oh, well, yeah, yeah, for sure.

01:36:29.000 I'm glad you do what you do.

01:36:31.000 Exactly.

01:36:32.000 No, I'm glad that they do it.

01:36:33.000 I'm just saying, like, for me, it would drive me.

01:36:36.000 Right.

01:36:36.000 Absolutely.

01:36:36.000 Because I have to, like, know an answer.

01:36:39.000 Right.

01:36:39.000 I can't.

01:36:40.000 I hate, like...

01:36:42.000 Hypotheticals and like...

01:36:43.000 Like string theory.

01:36:44.000 I hate it.

01:36:45.000 That could piss off.

01:36:47.000 I don't need to know any about that.

01:36:49.000 That one's weird.

01:36:49.000 Yeah, any of that stuff.

01:36:51.000 I like this happened on this day.

01:36:53.000 This is who was involved.

01:36:54.000 This is what happened.

01:36:55.000 Right.

01:36:56.000 Hard.

01:36:57.000 That kind of stuff. 0.98

01:36:58.000 Well, space is the ultimate who the fuck knows because we can only see so far. 0.98

01:37:02.000 We see so far. 0.99

01:37:04.000 But even so far is only so far.

01:37:06.000 Well, and then they're saying like it's always expanding.

01:37:08.000 That can't be true because what is it expanding into?

01:37:11.000 If space is space, you know, if they're like, oh, it's like blowing up a balloon where everything's – OK, well, you're blowing up a balloon in a room.

01:37:19.000 Right.

01:37:20.000 So what's the room that you're blowing the balloon into?

01:37:22.000 And then that's in a bigger room and then that's in this.

01:37:24.000 Right.

01:37:24.000 And then there's the concept that it's actually finite.

01:37:27.000 It's not infinite.

01:37:28.000 It's some sort of donut shape.

01:37:30.000 It like – Good Lord.

01:37:33.000 Or is God the universe?

01:37:40.000 Yeah, but then who made God?

01:37:41.000 And then that bothers me.

01:37:43.000 Right.

01:37:43.000 Who made that thing?

01:37:44.000 Is that a thing that we think that, like, because we were born and we die, that we have these biological limitations that we attach to the universe itself?

01:37:57.000 That's fair.

01:38:00.000 Yeah, that we just – we see things as being built and destroyed.

01:38:03.000 That there's always been something.

01:38:04.000 Wouldn't it be crazy if there wasn't something at one point in time?

01:38:07.000 That seems even crazier.

01:38:08.000 Then there always has been something because if it's just something – if it's just the nature of everything, there is always something, right?

01:38:17.000 It couldn't be nothing and then all of a sudden everything.

01:38:21.000 That seems— Because what started that?

01:38:22.000 What kicked that off?

01:38:23.000 Exactly.

01:38:24.000 What snapped its fingers?

01:38:25.000 That's McKenna's great line.

01:38:27.000 Terrence McKenna had a great line about the difference between science and religion is that science only asks you for one miracle.

01:38:33.000 I want you to believe in one miracle, the Big Bang.

01:38:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:38:37.000 That's a good one.

01:38:38.000 It's a great line.

01:38:39.000 It's because it really is true.

01:38:41.000 And it's funny because people would be incredulous about the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

01:38:45.000 But yet they're convinced that the entire universe was smaller than the head of a pen.

01:38:51.000 And for no reason than anybody's adequately explained to me.

01:38:54.000 Makes sense.

01:38:56.000 It instantaneously became everything?

01:38:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:39:00.000 Okay.

01:39:01.000 I can't buy that.

01:39:03.000 I'm sticking with Jesus on that one. 0.83

01:39:05.000 Jesus makes more sense.

01:39:06.000 It makes a whole lot more sense.

01:39:08.000 People have come back to life.

01:39:09.000 In fact, one of your videos was about a woman who was hung.

01:39:15.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:15.000 Yeah.

01:39:16.000 Tell that one.

01:39:17.000 Was it Nancy Green or Ann Green?

01:39:19.000 I think Ann Green.

01:39:20.000 Yeah, she had basically a miscarriage. 0.94

01:39:24.000 At the time, it was basically like, oh, you're a witch. 1.00

01:39:27.000 We're going to kill you because your baby's not. 1.00

01:39:30.000 It didn't live. 1.00

01:39:31.000 So she just buried the thing, acted like nothing happened.

01:39:33.000 They tried her, convicted her.

01:39:35.000 So she had a miscarriage, buried the child, and they caught her. 0.87

01:39:38.000 Yeah, they caught her thinking that she had killed the kid.

01:39:40.000 Like, why would you be just burying your baby?

01:39:43.000 Like, they weren't really thinking that she had a miscarriage.

01:39:47.000 Hung her. 0.81

01:39:48.000 I mean, as far as they know, she's dead.

01:39:51.000 Put her in a box, wooden box, take her to a mortuary, and the guy's, you know, getting her ready to...

01:39:56.000 Prepper to barrier, and she wakes back up after they start doing, like, they feel, well, they feel like a faint pulse, and they're like, oh my god, this woman's still alive, but she's not, like, coherent and alert, so they start giving her, like, tobacco smoke enemas, which, oh, it gotta be a great time.

01:40:12.000 Whose idea, how do you go to that one first?

01:40:14.000 Well, I don't know.

01:40:15.000 I think...

01:40:15.000 I got an idea, bro.

01:40:17.000 I mean, slapping the hell out of her probably was the first option. 1.00

01:40:19.000 I got a tube and a pack of Marlboro's. 0.97

01:40:21.000 Here it is.

01:40:21.000 Yeah, pouring hot.

01:40:22.000 Yeah, they poured this, which I don't know, a cordial?

01:40:24.000 I think it's just some sort of like liquid.

01:40:27.000 Any...

01:40:27.000 Is that just liquid?

01:40:29.000 Yeah, I don't know why.

01:40:30.000 Invigorating or stimulating preparation that's intended for medicinal purpose.

01:40:33.000 The term derives from obsolete usage.

01:40:36.000 It's basically Robitussin.

01:40:37.000 Yeah, some sort of alcohol, I think.

01:40:38.000 Oh, like some hot...

01:40:41.000 Buffalo trace.

01:40:41.000 Let's go, lady.

01:40:42.000 Rubbing her limbs and extremities.

01:40:45.000 Bloodletting.

01:40:45.000 Always a good option.

01:40:46.000 A poultice?

01:40:47.000 Poultice?

01:40:48.000 Oh, I didn't know about the poultice.

01:40:50.000 What is that?

01:40:51.000 A soft moist mass.

01:40:52.000 A moist mass.

01:40:53.000 So basically putting like a hot...

01:40:56.000 Soft materials like cereals.

01:40:58.000 Okay.

01:40:59.000 Cereals?

01:41:00.000 I don't know.

01:41:01.000 Soft materials like cereals used as a base. 0.99

01:41:04.000 So they put oatmeal on our tits. 1.00

01:41:06.000 They put a big bowl of oatmeal on our tits. 1.00

01:41:09.000 Tobacco. 1.00

01:41:09.000 They're just experimenting on this lady. 1.00

01:41:11.000 The tobacco smoke enema to me is the wildest one. 1.00

01:41:13.000 Like, you went up her asshole. 1.00

01:41:15.000 With a cigar? 1.00

01:41:15.000 Is that what you did? 1.00

01:41:16.000 You weirdo? 0.98

01:41:17.000 Yeah, like a backdoor Clinton. 0.93

01:41:18.000 That's a guy that wanted to smoke a cigarette in the operating room.

01:41:21.000 It's like, I know. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Blow some smoke up your ass. 1.00

01:41:23.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:41:23.000 That might be what it is. 1.00

01:41:25.000 Oh my god, that's literally it! 1.00

01:41:27.000 You blow smoke up my ass? 1.00

01:41:28.000 Blow smoke up your ass is supposed to be deceiving you. 1.00

01:41:32.000 They probably found out it was some bullshit. 1.00

01:41:34.000 Right, right, right. 1.00

01:41:34.000 Are you still trying to do that shit? 1.00

01:41:36.000 He's just an ass freak. 1.00

01:41:38.000 Because a lot of morticians have been freaks. 1.00

01:41:40.000 That's one of the famous Sam Kinison bit.

01:41:43.000 Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:41:44.000 It's one of the greatest bits of all time.

01:41:46.000 She started talking after 12 hours?

01:41:48.000 Yeah.

01:41:48.000 Started eating food?

01:41:50.000 That's nuts.

01:41:50.000 One month before we recovered?

01:41:52.000 She came back from the dead? 0.57

01:41:54.000 You're telling me Jesus can't?

01:41:56.000 Well, Jesus was after three days. 0.81

01:41:58.000 I feel like after three days you're already stinking.

01:42:00.000 People were tougher back then, bro.

01:42:01.000 Well, that's true.

01:42:02.000 2,000 years ago, people were—they had some gumption to them.

01:42:05.000 Well, they were probably also 2,000 years less evolved, so they were probably stronger.

01:42:10.000 Stronger?

01:42:11.000 Yeah, like more robust.

01:42:12.000 Oh.

01:42:13.000 They were able to survive.

01:42:14.000 If you survived 2,000 years ago, I just would imagine, like, you're going through some tough times.

01:42:19.000 Yeah.

01:42:19.000 You know, like, you can't have, like—there's no bad genes back then.

01:42:24.000 Nobody makes it.

01:42:25.000 Yeah, and Jesus went through some stuff by the time he hit 33. I just think human beings probably, we're probably dealing with a very robust gene pool.

01:42:34.000 The people that did live, you know?

01:42:36.000 Yeah.

01:42:36.000 Especially if you go back earlier and earlier.

01:42:39.000 Like, you go way back.

01:42:40.000 Yeah.

01:42:41.000 Because they were basically doing, like, survival of the fittest.

01:42:43.000 I mean, that was life, you know? 1.00

01:42:45.000 If you have a kid who comes out all gimpy, you just throw that fucker off a cliff. 1.00

01:42:49.000 Yeah, they're dead. 1.00

01:42:50.000 You sacrifice them. 0.95

01:42:51.000 They can't be held down.

01:42:53.000 Right.

01:42:53.000 You know, I was watching this.

01:42:55.000 YouTube clip yesterday on Cro-Magnum, man.

01:42:58.000 Like, the early Homo sapiens who killed off a lot of the Neanderthals.

01:43:02.000 Like, the battles with the Neanderthals. 0.97

01:43:04.000 Like, there were just these massive fucking Icelandic-type dudes that lived back then. 0.99

01:43:09.000 Like, you ought to be tough to survive thousands of years ago. 0.97

01:43:14.000 Especially if you lived in the north like that.

01:43:16.000 Oh, God.

01:43:16.000 Like, can you imagine being a Viking?

01:43:18.000 Just living in, like, Iceland, Greenland.

01:43:20.000 Yeah, your house is made out of sticks and there's polar bears outside.

01:43:23.000 God. 1.00

01:43:24.000 And it just sucks. 1.00

01:43:26.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00

01:43:26.000 There's nothing to do. 1.00

01:43:28.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:43:28.000 I wouldn't like that one bit. 1.00

01:43:30.000 I'm real glad I live right now.

01:43:32.000 I would have liked to have lived a couple decades back, I think.

01:43:35.000 I think I'd be more comfortable, like in the 70s or 80s.

01:43:39.000 I think you're perfect right here, dude.

01:43:41.000 You get more research information now.

01:43:43.000 That's true.

01:43:44.000 It'd be harder to do your job back then.

01:43:45.000 Oh, my job wouldn't exist. 0.97

01:43:47.000 Everybody would think you're bullshitting. 0.97

01:43:48.000 Well, everybody already does. 1.00

01:43:50.000 Cody Tucker's full of shit, man. 1.00

01:43:52.000 He's making stuff up about the past. 1.00

01:43:54.000 Most people already think I'm doing anyways, which is fine, I mean.

01:43:58.000 Well, how do you research it?

01:44:00.000 Like, how do you find crazy facts?

01:44:02.000 I just—well, one, just read, like, books constantly.

01:44:05.000 So, like, I'll say, like, Napoleon.

01:44:08.000 I'll be like, all right, let me find a book on Napoleon, read about Napoleon.

01:44:11.000 And I'm mostly just skimming through looking to, like, find something that seems interesting. 0.99

01:44:16.000 Or then I'll just Google, like, interesting shit about Napoleon. 0.97

01:44:19.000 And then— Read through it. 0.98

01:44:21.000 Half of it's not true.

01:44:23.000 So I gotta sift through that and then put it all together into kind of a story and do it that way.

01:44:29.000 But yeah, it's mostly just reading articles online.

01:44:32.000 Like scholarly articles, I guess you'd say.

01:44:35.000 Just flipping through them until I find something.

01:44:37.000 Imagine trying to piece through the truth of the 1700s.

01:44:43.000 Just imagine.

01:44:44.000 Back then?

01:44:45.000 Yeah, I mean right now.

01:44:46.000 Like try to figure out exactly.

01:44:49.000 What happened?

01:44:51.000 It's...

01:44:51.000 I mean, there was some good, like, you know, notating what's going on.

01:44:58.000 But how would you know?

01:44:59.000 You barely know.

01:45:00.000 I mean, really, you don't even have to go back to the 20s.

01:45:04.000 Right.

01:45:04.000 Like, who now is going to be like, oh, yeah, that did happen?

01:45:08.000 Well, yeah.

01:45:09.000 But at least we have, like, photographs and stuff.

01:45:12.000 But my point was going to be, now take it back a couple thousand years ago.

01:45:18.000 Like, good luck.

01:45:19.000 Well, that's why so many people think some, you know, have a hard time knowing for sure whether some people even existed.

01:45:26.000 Like Achilles.

01:45:27.000 Like people, you know, still don't believe that he necessarily existed.

01:45:31.000 I mean, they didn't believe that entire war happened until, like...

01:45:35.000 Relatively recently.

01:45:36.000 Well, they didn't find Troy until, like, what year?

01:45:40.000 Like, Troy was supposed to be just a mythical place.

01:45:42.000 Exactly.

01:45:43.000 I don't know a date.

01:45:44.000 I'm thinking the 50s, if I had to guess.

01:45:47.000 I think it was, like, kind of close.

01:45:48.000 But, yeah, they just knew...

01:45:49.000 Less than 100 years ago.

01:45:51.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:45:52.000 Which is nuts.

01:45:53.000 Yeah, they just knew Homer.

01:45:54.000 They just knew the Elliot, the Odyssey, and all those things, and thought it was all big.

01:45:58.000 Because then, if you know that that war is true, like, once you've discovered the... 0.70

01:46:03.000 That did happen.

01:46:03.000 So was Achilles real?

01:46:05.000 So was Agamemnon real?

01:46:07.000 It's hard to know.

01:46:09.000 Is Odysseus real?

01:46:10.000 Right.

01:46:11.000 But obviously there's things in there that aren't real.

01:46:13.000 That's what's weird, right?

01:46:15.000 It's like there's some, for sure, fiction, I think.

01:46:18.000 But maybe not.

01:46:19.000 Maybe the world was way weirder back then.

01:46:22.000 Maybe all those weird things got killed off?

01:46:24.000 Right.

01:46:24.000 That's the thing.

01:46:25.000 It's like maybe there were like...

01:46:27.000 Almost god-like creatures that existed that we want to call Zeus or Hercules.

01:46:33.000 Maybe this is just like years and years and years of retelling stuff.

01:46:38.000 Because Homer's take on Atlantis is one of the most fascinating.

01:46:42.000 I've been obsessed with Atlantis ever since, particularly I had Jimmy Corsetti on the podcast.

01:46:49.000 And have you ever seen his videos on the Reichardt?

01:46:52.000 Did I say it, Jimmy?

01:46:53.000 Reichardt?

01:46:55.000 Richard structure.

01:46:56.000 There's this area in sub-Saharan Africa that has all of the attributes of Atlantis, including its position, where the mountains are to the north, where the river is to the south, the concentric rings.

01:47:09.000 It literally is the same size as described, the concentric rings.

01:47:14.000 It looks like a complete anomaly.

01:47:16.000 It does not look like something that's naturally occurring.

01:47:19.000 And the entire area looks like it's...

01:47:22.000 When you look at it from a...

01:47:24.000 An aerial satellite photo.

01:47:25.000 It looks like it's blown out by water.

01:47:29.000 Like immense amounts of water rushed through the land.

01:47:32.000 Like the whole area looked massive water erosion. 0.66

01:47:35.000 Like when you look at it from above, it looks like it just got hit with the most fucking insane flood of all time.

01:47:41.000 There's literally salt. 0.99

01:47:42.000 There's white all around the area where this Richard structure is, which was probably from the fucking ocean. 0.99

01:47:50.000 Right, for sure. 0.98

01:47:52.000 And it's to this day.

01:47:54.000 And also, evidence of human habitation.

01:47:56.000 They found pottery.

01:47:57.000 They found a bunch of things.

01:47:58.000 But it's a kind of sketchy area of the world.

01:48:00.000 And I don't think there's been a lot of real excavation done there.

01:48:03.000 But look at it from the top.

01:48:05.000 I recommend everybody go to Bright Insights' YouTube page and just watch some of the videos he has on it.

01:48:12.000 And he's not saying it's for sure this.

01:48:14.000 And it's not just him.

01:48:15.000 It's many other people.

01:48:17.000 This is the area.

01:48:18.000 Show it, the image of it from space.

01:48:21.000 Jesus Christ.

01:48:22.000 That's awesome.

01:48:22.000 It's crazy, dude.

01:48:24.000 It literally looks like how Atlantis was described, with concentric circles.

01:48:29.000 But crazier still is its position to the mountains, which are in the north, and the south, where the river runs through, is literally exactly as described.

01:48:42.000 And if you look at the image, look how it all looks blown out, man.

01:48:45.000 It all looks completely washed out.

01:48:48.000 That is crazy.

01:48:49.000 Watch how you go further.

01:48:50.000 Look at that.

01:48:51.000 Tell me.

01:48:51.000 Oh, the whole thing?

01:48:53.000 The whole thing.

01:48:53.000 It looks like the whole thing is just scarred from water.

01:48:58.000 Just a massive amount of water.

01:49:00.000 That's crazy.

01:49:02.000 Yeah, that is so wild.

01:49:03.000 From the position where it is, the description of it, the actual dimensions of it, everything about it, man.

01:49:11.000 Even the descriptions of it and the colors of the rocks that are in that area.

01:49:16.000 It matches so many details. 0.97

01:49:19.000 Oh, it's a moratina. 1.00

01:49:20.000 Okay.

01:49:20.000 Isn't that nuts?

01:49:22.000 That is amazing.

01:49:24.000 Again, shout out to Jimmy Corsetti.

01:49:26.000 Because Randall Carlson dismissed this, but I was like, how are you dismissing this?

01:49:31.000 I don't understand.

01:49:32.000 I mean, dismissing it based on...

01:49:34.000 He doesn't think that this is Atlantis.

01:49:35.000 He thinks Atlantis is somewhere else.

01:49:37.000 Maybe he's right.

01:49:37.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:49:38.000 Maybe there was more than one.

01:49:39.000 I mean, when a bunch of people die at a time where you don't have phones and you don't have computers, it's real possible that the myth of Atlantis, you're talking about like...

01:49:51.000 A civilization that existed at a certain point in time.

01:49:54.000 And it might not have just been this one incredible city, but it's probably multiple cities that existed that just don't exist anymore.

01:50:01.000 Just completely flattened.

01:50:03.000 And then some people remembered this one.

01:50:06.000 That's also part of the equation that you have to look at.

01:50:10.000 When you see that kind of insane water erosion, how much did people just have no recollection of?

01:50:16.000 Right, right, right.

01:50:18.000 But it all lines up numbers-wise.

01:50:20.000 This is what's nuts.

01:50:21.000 Homer was talking about it being 9,000 years old.

01:50:24.000 That's 2,000 years ago.

01:50:26.000 That's at the time of the Younger Dryas Impact Theory.

01:50:29.000 It's the same time period.

01:50:31.000 Right.

01:50:32.000 So it lines up perfectly for it.

01:50:34.000 It lines up perfectly.

01:50:35.000 The description is perfect.

01:50:37.000 The position is perfect. 0.99

01:50:38.000 Again, I'm a moron. 0.99

01:50:39.000 But don't listen to me. 0.99

01:50:40.000 Go listen to other people that are interested in it.

01:50:43.000 Because I probably watched 30 videos on it.

01:50:46.000 It's wild.

01:50:47.000 That's so cool looking.

01:50:49.000 It looks like Atlantis.

01:50:51.000 It looks like the way they described it.

01:50:53.000 God.

01:50:54.000 There's so many people that are resisting.

01:50:56.000 There's a really interesting thing in archaeology where there's not disrespectful to archaeology.

01:51:02.000 It's an amazing thing.

01:51:03.000 I'm glad you guys are out there.

01:51:04.000 But there's a lot of people that do not want...

01:51:08.000 Anyone to find something out before they have.

01:51:10.000 And they do not want anyone to uncover something before they have.

01:51:14.000 Especially if these people are not credentialed academics.

01:51:17.000 They're not PhDs.

01:51:19.000 They're not doctors.

01:51:20.000 I'm Dr. Smith and I'm out here finding this. 0.97

01:51:24.000 They don't want, like, regular people looking at Google Images and going, hey, what the fuck is this? 0.78

01:51:28.000 And let's go and do it.

01:51:30.000 And then, like, let's look at the history of the description of the place.

01:51:32.000 Actually, it lines up exactly.

01:51:34.000 They don't want to have missed that.

01:51:35.000 So they'll try to dismiss it with every fiber of their being rather than give ground and give credibility to these amateurs.

01:51:42.000 Yeah, that's what happens with, like, this true crime community people, you know, because they'll sometimes, like, bust a case wide open.

01:51:49.000 Cops and detectives hate it because it's like, you're just a guy sitting on your case.

01:51:53.000 I'm a couch at home, and you did more than what I did.

01:51:56.000 But, you know, obviously a detective has all these different cases. 0.99

01:51:59.000 They're going to make a few mistakes, and some probably do just not give a shit. 1.00

01:52:03.000 Fucking ego. 1.00

01:52:04.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:52:05.000 But that's part of it, is that they will just dismiss the leads, because somebody will call in and be like, hey, have y 'all checked this person on this date?

01:52:13.000 Ask where they were, and they're like, we did it, don't worry about it.

01:52:16.000 And of course they never did.

01:52:18.000 So that is kind of a similar situation.

01:52:22.000 We want to be the ones to find it, not you, so we don't care that you've gone out and done your own thing.

01:52:29.000 Exactly.

01:52:30.000 And have a theory that may be true. 0.98

01:52:31.000 I mean, it may be bullshit, but it may be true. 0.98

01:52:33.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:52:34.000 Yeah, that's interesting.

01:52:35.000 It is very interesting.

01:52:37.000 The whole thing is very interesting because clearly we don't have all the pieces of the puzzle laid out and there are people that want to pretend that we do and that's just not the case.

01:52:45.000 There's just – there's too much weird stuff and there's too much time that passed.

01:52:49.000 And the weird stuff is like Gobekli Tepe and these 11,000-year-old structures and a bunch of stuff that they're finding in Malta.

01:52:55.000 The Malta stuff is nuts.

01:52:57.000 But it's also – it's just – there's no way you can know.

01:53:04.000 Combustion engines and you want to break down the new Coyote 5.0 that Ford makes and you're an expert in engines.

01:53:12.000 I'm going to listen to you because I don't know how it works.

01:53:14.000 How does it work?

01:53:15.000 Why is it so good?

01:53:16.000 How does the supercharger work?

01:53:17.000 And then it does what?

01:53:18.000 Okay.

01:53:19.000 How do you control all that with the ECU and the traction control?

01:53:21.000 Okay.

01:53:22.000 Because you're an expert in that.

01:53:23.000 But you can't be an expert in the entire history of the human race because we don't have all the information. 0.86

01:53:29.000 So you're bullshitting. 0.98

01:53:31.000 You at least have to be kind of bullshitting. 0.99

01:53:32.000 Yeah.

01:53:33.000 We just found out super recently that there was human beings definitely in North America 22,000 years ago.

01:53:40.000 Yeah.

01:53:40.000 Super recently.

01:53:41.000 Yeah.

01:53:42.000 I thought it was even earlier than that.

01:53:46.000 Could be.

01:53:46.000 Maybe they've updated it.

01:53:47.000 I thought.

01:53:48.000 I know the footprints.

01:53:49.000 Those New Mexico footprints, the New Mexico footprints, I believe, are 22,000 years ago.

01:53:54.000 So what did they think before that?

01:53:56.000 13. That was Clovis first.

01:53:58.000 That was the people that thought the Clovis people. 0.99

01:54:00.000 But again, you don't fucking know. 0.96

01:54:02.000 Well, it wasn't that long ago when people found out about the Vikings coming over to New England. 0.98

01:54:08.000 Yes.

01:54:09.000 That was a somewhat recent discovery.

01:54:12.000 I mean, obviously not in the past couple of years, but it was...

01:54:16.000 Not very well known that, like, Leif Erikson, I guess it was Eric the Red.

01:54:20.000 Yeah, so Leif Erikson, like, coming over, you know, 500 years before Columbus.

01:54:24.000 I know.

01:54:25.000 Isn't that nuts?

01:54:25.000 Yeah, and they were here.

01:54:26.000 I mean, they just didn't settle, so it's not significant.

01:54:29.000 But, you know, they were here.

01:54:31.000 So who's to say there weren't people way before them?

01:54:34.000 And then there's all these different routes you can take, and there's ideas of, like, the Phoenicians coming, or maybe the Egyptians, like, coming into South America.

01:54:42.000 You know, even longer than that, like thousands of years ago.

01:54:45.000 Yeah.

01:54:45.000 There's those theories, which, you know, who knows?

01:54:48.000 I don't know.

01:54:48.000 Well, there's also all the stuff in the Amazon, right?

01:54:52.000 Yeah.

01:54:52.000 The Lost City of Z, like that stuff.

01:54:54.000 Yeah.

01:54:54.000 That's crazy.

01:54:55.000 That's amazing.

01:54:56.000 Have you ever seen that movie?

01:54:57.000 Yes.

01:54:58.000 I read the book, too.

01:54:59.000 What's interesting about the story about the Lost City of Z is that it all changed in a hundred years.

01:55:08.000 So it's true.

01:55:09.000 In the 1500s, that first guy goes, and he gives everybody cooties and he doesn't know.

01:55:14.000 And then they come back 100 years later to see if he was telling the truth, and everybody's dead.

01:55:20.000 Right.

01:55:21.000 Everybody's dead and all the cities are gone in 100 years.

01:55:23.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:55:24.000 And they're like, ah, he was bullshitting. 0.65

01:55:26.000 We got there. 1.00

01:55:26.000 There's no fucking cities made out of gold. 1.00

01:55:28.000 The guy's an asshole. 1.00

01:55:29.000 Because the jungle ate it. 1.00

01:55:31.000 Yeah, which 100 years is such a long time.

01:55:34.000 In the jungle.

01:55:34.000 For that kind of vegetation force.

01:55:35.000 Yeah, wooden structures.

01:55:37.000 Yeah, I mean, that's not a...

01:55:39.000 Yeah, it's not the middle of the desert where, you know, those structures will last for thousands of years.

01:55:44.000 I mean, what was that like?

01:55:46.000 Because I forget the gentleman's name who was the first explorer.

01:55:49.000 Percy Fawcett.

01:55:50.000 Thank you.

01:55:50.000 Percy Fawcett?

01:55:51.000 The first guy?

01:55:52.000 No.

01:55:53.000 That was the second guy.

01:55:54.000 He's the guy that disappeared.

01:55:55.000 Right.

01:55:55.000 He's the guy that got eight in the movie.

01:55:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:55:59.000 Like the Rockefeller kid.

01:56:01.000 Yeah.

01:56:02.000 He's the one that formulated the idea about a lost city named Z. Right. 0.90

01:56:05.000 But who was the first explorer to the Amazon that reported these incredible cities?

01:56:09.000 Because that was in the 1500s.

01:56:10.000 I think Percy Fawcett.

01:56:12.000 No.

01:56:13.000 Was it somebody like that?

01:56:14.000 So they found a document written?

01:56:15.000 No, it was a European guy who was an explorer who went specifically to try to travel the length of the Amazon River.

01:56:21.000 It's believed to have been written by a Portuguese named Jao.

01:56:25.000 Da Silva Gumieres.

01:56:27.000 Yeah.

01:56:28.000 1753.

01:56:29.000 1753?

01:56:30.000 That he had discovered the ruins of an ancient city that contained arches.

01:56:33.000 No, there was a guy from the 1500s.

01:56:34.000 This is what I'm reading from Wikipedia.

01:56:36.000 No, I understand.

01:56:37.000 But I was watching this video where they were talking about this guy who was initially from the 1500s who was the first to describe what he saw there and that he saw thriving populations, like incredibly sophisticated agricultural setups.

01:56:51.000 These people, they lived in harmony with the rainforest in some strange way.

01:56:57.000 of like because what the video was about was about they were trying to reconcile how you could get enormous populations of people that lived in this area without the kind of agriculture that we assume you need to have in order to support these kind of populations.

01:57:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:14.000 And so they did something different and integrated somehow with the rainforest, and it was also about that stuff that Hancock has talked about, terra preta, the type of soil that they had created.

01:57:24.000 It's a man-made, like, composted soil.

01:57:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:29.000 And they talked about this too, but in this documentary, They were going over the guy who came in the 1500s and the guy who visited.

01:57:36.000 It might have been the Y files.

01:57:38.000 I'm seeing a known Italian navigator, Christopher Columbus, enters the area in 1498, known as present-day Venezuela.

01:57:46.000 Two years later, Pinzone sails into the Amazon.

01:57:50.000 It's the same year Brazil is being accidentally found by Portuguese explorer Cabral, while en route to the Orient.

01:57:57.000 40 years later, a guy named Oriana?

01:58:01.000 Oriana?

01:58:02.000 God, I wish I could remember the name of the guy.

01:58:04.000 Yeah.

01:58:05.000 But the point is, the first people to go there that were Europeans that went back to Europe described these insanely sophisticated cultures that had millions of people living in it.

01:58:15.000 Right.

01:58:15.000 They had huge populations.

01:58:17.000 Yeah.

01:58:18.000 And they talked about the elaborate headgear they wore, the way they dressed, and there was gold everywhere.

01:58:24.000 And so everybody was like, oh, we're going to go back and get rich.

01:58:26.000 And they went back and everyone was dead.

01:58:29.000 That's so crazy. 0.98

01:58:31.000 I mean, could you imagine, like, you'd feel like such a jackass, you know, having everybody come back there and you're... 0.86

01:58:37.000 Well, it's essentially what we did with North America. 0.75

01:58:39.000 Not we.

01:58:39.000 I mean, my grandparents came here in the 20s.

01:58:42.000 But essentially, when Europeans came here, that's what killed, just disease killed 90% of Native Americans.

01:58:50.000 Yeah.

01:58:50.000 Which is...

01:58:52.000 I mean, it was the same in, like, the Indies, you know, whenever Columbus came.

01:58:55.000 Everywhere.

01:58:56.000 Just massive amounts of people.

01:58:57.000 Just like China did to us.

01:58:58.000 Just kidding.

01:58:59.000 Just kidding!

01:59:03.000 Not really, they didn't, but they killed a lot of things.

01:59:07.000 But it's just bizarre that we've missed that chapter, and it wasn't until LIDAR.

01:59:15.000 That they started to realize like, oh, there's like sophisticated grid work down here that seems to indicate that there's aqueducts.

01:59:24.000 It seems like there's like places where there was channels and paths.

01:59:28.000 Yeah.

01:59:29.000 Well, we have like, I mean, there's obviously like a Eurocentric idea a lot of the times where we think like, oh, we're the only ones who could have ever come up with like these advanced technologies and like have these advanced civilizations.

01:59:42.000 I mean, you look, and it was like in Africa, there was all sorts of, like, massive civilizations.

01:59:47.000 Which is about the Aztecs.

01:59:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:59:49.000 And then, of course, like, yeah, South America is a huge, I mean, like the Olmecs, Aztecs, Mayans.

01:59:55.000 I mean, it's Inca.

01:59:56.000 Especially the Aztecs, though.

01:59:57.000 Yeah, the Aztecs is a giant. 0.99

01:59:59.000 Their stuff is nuts, man. 0.99

02:00:00.000 Their stuff was nuts.

02:00:02.000 Like, can you imagine what experiencing that must have been like?

02:00:05.000 The first people that were, like, Europeans that, like, stumbled upon these immense Aztec cities.

02:00:10.000 Like, what is happening here?

02:00:11.000 That was Cortez.

02:00:12.000 Cortez was the first, I think, for the Aztecs.

02:00:14.000 I think so, right?

02:00:15.000 On horse, where they thought he was a god.

02:00:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:00:20.000 That's the other nutty thing, that we brought horses over here.

02:00:23.000 Like, what?

02:00:24.000 Yeah.

02:00:25.000 Like, they used to be over here, and then they all died off, and then we brought them back.

02:00:29.000 Yeah.

02:00:30.000 God, no.

02:00:31.000 That's crazy.

02:00:32.000 That's so great.

02:00:32.000 You know, Thomas Jefferson brought mac and cheese here.

02:00:35.000 He's the guy?

02:00:35.000 Mm-hmm.

02:00:36.000 Made it popular. 1.00

02:00:36.000 I mean, like, it was like nobody ate that shit. 1.00

02:00:38.000 He went to Paris, you know, obviously, like, for pre-American Revolution to get some buddies going and, yeah, brought back mac and cheese. 0.99

02:00:45.000 Also, like, one of the first Americans to cultivate tomatoes.

02:00:48.000 Really?

02:00:49.000 People thought they were poisonous, which to an extent they are.

02:00:52.000 Yeah, I was reading about that, like, that you should really avoid nightshades.

02:00:56.000 Yeah, it's a nightshade.

02:00:57.000 That's what I was trying to remember.

02:00:58.000 Yeah.

02:00:59.000 But wait a minute.

02:01:00.000 Yeah.

02:01:00.000 But they taste so good.

02:01:01.000 Yeah.

02:01:02.000 How dare you?

02:01:02.000 I mean, every Italian in the world just, you know.

02:01:06.000 Yeah, I want to get, like, one of those blood work things done to see, like, what foods you're supposed to not be eating. 0.99

02:01:13.000 You know, it's probably horseshit.

02:01:14.000 But, you know, like, for your blood type. 0.99

02:01:16.000 You know that?

02:01:17.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:01:18.000 I did one of those a long time ago, and they told me to avoid avocados. 1.00

02:01:20.000 And I'm like, fuck you. 1.00

02:01:21.000 What the fuck? 1.00

02:01:22.000 Avocados are, like, isn't that, like, good for everyone? 1.00

02:01:24.000 Like, who the hell?

02:01:25.000 That's what I thought.

02:01:26.000 It was one of them wacky things where I was very skeptical going in.

02:01:29.000 I'm like, all right, I'll try it.

02:01:31.000 Let's see what I should and should be eating.

02:01:33.000 Well, it seems like avocados, like, what are you talking about?

02:01:35.000 That's insane. 1.00

02:01:36.000 I'm not stomping guacamole, bitch. 1.00

02:01:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:01:39.000 Yeah, you know, I couldn't be...

02:01:41.000 No.

02:01:42.000 No, I can't be.

02:01:42.000 There's no way it's that bad for you.

02:01:44.000 Avocados are very good.

02:01:45.000 Yeah.

02:01:46.000 Or I, from what I thought, nobody should be taking that advice for you. 1.00

02:01:48.000 What kind of weird genetic fucking defect would you have to have where avocados are killing you? 1.00

02:01:52.000 That seems crazy. 1.00

02:01:53.000 I mean, you know, peanuts.

02:01:54.000 I mean, you know, Texas Roadhouse damn near had a...

02:01:57.000 Damien went bankrupt over all that stuff.

02:01:59.000 Really?

02:02:00.000 Kind of.

02:02:00.000 I mean, but they don't do the whole...

02:02:02.000 They should have sued the vaccine companies.

02:02:03.000 Should have.

02:02:06.000 But you can't.

02:02:07.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:02:08.000 But they don't do the whole, you know, you used to go and then you'd crush up your peanuts and you just... 0.99

02:02:12.000 Dump that shit on the floor. 1.00

02:02:13.000 I know. 1.00

02:02:14.000 Isn't that nuts?

02:02:15.000 They used to have them at Five Guys.

02:02:17.000 You used to go to Five Guys and eat peanuts.

02:02:19.000 Not anymore.

02:02:19.000 Everybody's dying.

02:02:20.000 I know.

02:02:21.000 You can't even eat them in the room because if someone is near you that has a severe peanut allergy, that's why they don't have them on planes anymore.

02:02:27.000 Remember they used to have them on planes?

02:02:28.000 Oh, really?

02:02:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:02:29.000 You can't even eat peanuts.

02:02:31.000 If you and I were sitting next to each other on a plane and I have a severe peanut allergy and you start eating them, I could die just sitting next to you, breathing your peanutty air. 0.99

02:02:40.000 God, what a great way to kill someone if you really wanted to and get away with it. 0.99

02:02:44.000 I didn't know. 0.97

02:02:45.000 Just peanut dust someone.

02:02:46.000 Yeah.

02:02:48.000 See the BB&J and just...

02:02:50.000 Pocket peanuts.

02:02:53.000 Yeah, you just have some mashed up peanuts you toss on them.

02:02:56.000 God, what a... 1.00

02:02:57.000 Like fucking anthrax. 1.00

02:02:58.000 Great way to kill someone. 1.00

02:02:59.000 It is nuts. 0.99

02:02:59.000 Like for everybody else, it's just yummy part of Snickers. 0.99

02:03:02.000 And for you, it's basically anthrax.

02:03:05.000 It is because I'm allergic to seafood, like shellfish.

02:03:08.000 Any selfish.

02:03:09.000 Really?

02:03:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:03:10.000 You know, you're also allergic to roaches then?

02:03:12.000 You can't eat roaches?

02:03:13.000 You know how we found that out?

02:03:15.000 Yeah.

02:03:16.000 Fear factor?

02:03:17.000 Oh, really?

02:03:18.000 Yeah.

02:03:18.000 That's what was from that.

02:03:19.000 That's how I found that out.

02:03:20.000 Well, because there is a thing where...

02:03:22.000 Scientists who research cockroaches usually tend to develop an allergy to coffee and to roaches, and I think also to shellfish.

02:03:31.000 Wow. 0.99

02:03:32.000 Yeah, because they're just studying roaches constantly, which, what a fucking job. 0.99

02:03:36.000 But yeah, they end up developing a coffee allergy. 0.99

02:03:40.000 But yeah, that's interesting.

02:03:42.000 Why coffee?

02:03:42.000 Because they're just drinking coffee all the time?

02:03:44.000 I don't know.

02:03:44.000 I mean, probably because roaches are...

02:03:47.000 Yeah.

02:03:49.000 Wow.

02:03:50.000 Some people can develop an allergy to coffee if they're also allergic to cockroaches.

02:03:53.000 So becoming allergic to cockroaches, working with them, is what makes them allergic to...

02:03:57.000 So it's tropomyosin, a common allergen.

02:04:04.000 Cross-reactivity means individuals allergic to cockroaches may also experience allergic reactions when consuming coffee, particularly pre-ground coffee.

02:04:11.000 See, in my mind, I thought it was because there was a bunch of cockroaches in pre-ground coffee.

02:04:15.000 Ew.

02:04:16.000 There's bugs and like...

02:04:18.000 There are ground-up approaches in your morning coffee.

02:04:20.000 Jesus Christ, you're right.

02:04:22.000 Oh, no.

02:04:24.000 Bug parts and ground coffee.

02:04:26.000 So it's ground coffee.

02:04:28.000 Just get some Black Rifle beans, kids.

02:04:30.000 Stay away from ground coffee.

02:04:31.000 Ground coffee is for savages.

02:04:33.000 Like, what are you doing?

02:04:34.000 Folgers. 1.00

02:04:35.000 Grind that shit up. 1.00

02:04:36.000 No, you gotta... 1.00

02:04:37.000 You drink Folgers?

02:04:38.000 I don't drink coffee.

02:04:39.000 But if I did, I'd drink Folgers and Maxwell House.

02:04:42.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:04:43.000 I mean, I grew up poor and white trash. 0.99

02:04:46.000 Coffee's not expensive. 1.00

02:04:48.000 It's only expensive at Starbucks.

02:04:50.000 Well, that's true.

02:04:50.000 Like, buy a bag of beans, get a grinder, pour hot water.

02:04:54.000 Get it in one of these bitches. 1.00

02:04:56.000 French press. 1.00

02:04:56.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

02:04:57.000 Push that down after a minute.

02:04:59.000 Oh, wait a minute.

02:04:59.000 You want to hear it?

02:05:00.000 Here, listen to this.

02:05:01.000 Okay.

02:05:03.000 That does actually sound... 0.97

02:05:05.000 That sounds fucking good. 0.97

02:05:06.000 Incredible. 0.99

02:05:10.000 Delicious.

02:05:11.000 Yeah.

02:05:12.000 That's real coffee. 1.00

02:05:13.000 You don't want that fucking ground-up bullshit. 1.00

02:05:15.000 Unless you do. 1.00

02:05:16.000 You know what's legit, though?

02:05:17.000 Those little packets that Starbucks has where it's instant coffee?

02:05:22.000 Those are legit.

02:05:23.000 They figured that out.

02:05:24.000 They did a really good job of developing that formula.

02:05:27.000 Is it called a Vero or something like that?

02:05:30.000 What's that Starbucks instant coffee?

02:05:32.000 It's very legit.

02:05:34.000 I've mixed it up with hot water on camping trips and hunting trips and stuff. 0.97

02:05:37.000 It's like, this is pretty fucking good. 0.89

02:05:39.000 That's not bad, though. 0.97

02:05:40.000 Yeah, it's good.

02:05:41.000 It tastes like real coffee.

02:05:43.000 But I think, like, that was complicated to me.

02:05:45.000 I don't think, like, the cheaper instant coffee has that kind of...

02:05:48.000 No, I'm sure not.

02:05:50.000 Because if you like coffee, like, I like the flavor.

02:05:52.000 I like what it tastes like.

02:05:53.000 Yes.

02:05:54.000 I do, too.

02:05:55.000 It just gives me panic attacks.

02:05:56.000 Do you try the...

02:05:57.000 Well, and then there's the decaf. 0.98

02:05:59.000 Yeah, decaf gives me a fucking headache, and I don't know how they did it. 0.99

02:06:02.000 Right. 0.99

02:06:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:06:03.000 How are you doing that?

02:06:04.000 Yes.

02:06:04.000 Like, what?

02:06:05.000 It's not like you can go in and pick out the caffeine.

02:06:08.000 It's not like an ingredient in there.

02:06:11.000 You're putting it through some sort of chemical process.

02:06:14.000 Is that safe?

02:06:16.000 I don't think so.

02:06:17.000 How many studies have been done on your decaffeination process?

02:06:21.000 I just drink tea.

02:06:22.000 I'm a big tea guy.

02:06:24.000 Also, tea tastes better.

02:06:25.000 If I was just going to...

02:06:26.000 Drink, like, but also tea.

02:06:29.000 Tea bags have microplastics.

02:06:30.000 You've been reading all that?

02:06:31.000 Oh, well, I have so much plastic inside of me.

02:06:34.000 I mean, who knows?

02:06:35.000 I mean, the amount of Lunchables I've eaten growing up.

02:06:39.000 I know, the amount of times you put saran wrap over a microwave meal.

02:06:44.000 Oh, my God, so many times.

02:06:47.000 You just heat things up and, like... 0.99

02:06:49.000 Plastic that's all broken to shit? 0.99

02:06:50.000 Always. 1.00

02:06:51.000 Always.

02:06:52.000 Yeah, and then it melts because you left it in there too long? 1.00

02:06:54.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:06:54.000 Oh, well, it's okay. 1.00

02:06:55.000 Oh, I've eaten food that tasted like burnt plastic.

02:06:58.000 It sounds like, oh, I don't think this macaroni and cheese is supposed to taste like this, but...

02:07:02.000 There was some sort of article that was saying that many human beings have as much as a plastic, like, coffee spoon worth of plastic in their head.

02:07:12.000 In their head?

02:07:14.000 Yeah, in their head.

02:07:15.000 How does it get up there?

02:07:16.000 Blood-brain barrier.

02:07:17.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:07:18.000 Microplastics.

02:07:20.000 That microplastics get in your bloodstream.

02:07:22.000 It could be like, the sky is falling!

02:07:25.000 You're all gonna die from plastic!

02:07:27.000 It could be.

02:07:28.000 It's hard to know, because it's not like...

02:07:30.000 How many brains have you looked at?

02:07:31.000 Well, yeah, and then also, like, it's not like there is an actual spoon shoved in your head.

02:07:36.000 I mean, it's all spread out.

02:07:37.000 It's all spread out.

02:07:37.000 But also, like, do you have room for a spoonful of plastic in your head?

02:07:41.000 Because I don't have any room up there. 0.54

02:07:42.000 I think you do in your brain. 0.85

02:07:43.000 Your brain's mostly water.

02:07:44.000 I mean, not just you. 0.98

02:07:45.000 I'm not insulting you.

02:07:46.000 What your brain filter looks like if there's plastic everywhere?

02:07:50.000 Concentrations we saw in the brain tissue of normal individuals had an average age of around 45-50 years old were 4,800 micrograms per gram, or 0.48% by weight.

02:08:02.000 It's the equivalent to an entire standard plastic spoon. 1.00

02:08:06.000 In your fucking head. 1.00

02:08:07.000 Compared to autopsy brain samples from 2016, that's about 50% higher, he said. 1.00

02:08:12.000 That would mean that our brains today are 99.5% brain and the rest is plastic.

02:08:19.000 That's not bad.

02:08:20.000 That's a good percentage.

02:08:21.000 0.5% is not bad.

02:08:24.000 However, the current methods of measuring plastics may have over or underestimated their levels in the body, Campin said.

02:08:31.000 We're working hard to get a very precise estimate, which I think we will have within the next year.

02:08:35.000 So it may be zero and it may be 10%.

02:08:38.000 There's no plastic at all in there. 1.00

02:08:40.000 It's all in your balls. 1.00

02:08:41.000 Plastic in your balls. 1.00

02:08:42.000 Oh, I need some of that. 1.00

02:08:43.000 They found that. 1.00

02:08:44.000 There's plastic in your balls. 0.99

02:08:45.000 It plumps them up a little bit, like fake lips. 1.00

02:08:47.000 Which I need.

02:08:48.000 Yeah, I need that desperately.

02:08:50.000 You know, like when chicks get fillers to hide their wrinkles. 1.00

02:08:53.000 Exactly. 0.99

02:08:53.000 Plumps your balls up a little bit. 0.99

02:08:54.000 I'm cool with it. 0.98

02:08:55.000 Microwave dinner plastic.

02:08:58.000 Yeah, I'm fine with that.

02:08:59.000 It's like, we were going over this.

02:09:02.000 What was it?

02:09:02.000 Every month it was a credit card or a week?

02:09:06.000 I've seen this.

02:09:07.000 It's a month, I think.

02:09:08.000 A credit card amount of plastic is consumed.

02:09:11.000 I don't remember if it's a week or a month, but it's something crazy.

02:09:14.000 We're like, where's it all going?

02:09:15.000 Because I've been eating for a long time.

02:09:17.000 Where are these credit cards? 0.99

02:09:18.000 Do you not just shit out the plastic credit card? 0.99

02:09:21.000 I would hope so. 1.00

02:09:23.000 I would hope so.

02:09:24.000 Remember how this was studied, though?

02:09:25.000 I had to dig into it, and they had studied an animal or something and found it in the animals. 1.00

02:09:31.000 Rabbit animals are dumb as shit, right? 1.00

02:09:33.000 They eat bottle caps. 1.00

02:09:35.000 My dog eats everything.

02:09:36.000 Every week is what it says.

02:09:37.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:09:38.000 My dog eats everything on the ground.

02:09:40.000 I don't trust animal studies.

02:09:41.000 The only way you really know is if you try it on people.

02:09:44.000 Right.

02:09:44.000 That's why we've got to put them prisoners back in Alcatraz.

02:09:47.000 Well, do what you've got to do.

02:09:49.000 Hear that?

02:09:50.000 Trump is opening up Alcatraz again.

02:09:52.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

02:09:53.000 That's amazing.

02:09:55.000 I mean, a grand opening.

02:09:58.000 The world's crazy.

02:09:59.000 I like fun.

02:10:01.000 Trump saying he's going to reopen up Alcatraz is fun to me because I know that it's going to be like, what's he doing?

02:10:10.000 Trump says he'll reopen, enlarge, and rebuild Alcatraz.

02:10:13.000 It's going to be the best Alcatraz.

02:10:15.000 It's not just going to be Alcatraz.

02:10:16.000 Alcatraz, we use a federal penitentiary since 1963 at a capacity of roughly 300 people.

02:10:21.000 I went there as a kid.

02:10:23.000 Oh, really?

02:10:24.000 Yeah, when I was in...

02:10:25.000 What grade was I?

02:10:28.000 I was in San Francisco from age 7 to 11. I think I was 8 years old.

02:10:32.000 I went over there.

02:10:33.000 We have a little school trip.

02:10:34.000 We went on a ferry. 0.99

02:10:35.000 You go to Alcatraz, and you think about how the fuck someone could swim. 0.90

02:10:40.000 There's a dude, Nick Diaz, a UFC fighter. 0.94

02:10:43.000 He's done it five times.

02:10:44.000 Swim from Alcatraz? 0.83

02:10:45.000 Yeah, five times.

02:10:47.000 I wouldn't do that.

02:10:48.000 In shark-infested water, by the way.

02:10:51.000 Pay me to do that. 1.00

02:10:52.000 Fuck all that. 1.00

02:10:54.000 I mean, I can swim like a motherfucker. 1.00

02:10:55.000 But do you know the kind of balls you have to have to know that, you know, you don't have a life vest. 1.00

02:11:00.000 You're just swimming. 0.98

02:11:01.000 You have to be able to swim all the way to shore with sharks underneath you everywhere.

02:11:08.000 And you know if they bite you, you're dead.

02:11:11.000 And you know they bite people.

02:11:13.000 I'd rather just be in prison, really.

02:11:16.000 Yeah, but he's doing it for funsies.

02:11:17.000 Oh, you're doing it for Diaz.

02:11:18.000 Nick Diaz does it in between.

02:11:21.000 MMA fights, he was doing this. 0.95

02:11:22.000 Well, the Diaz brothers, that's a set of balls unlike no other.

02:11:27.000 Those guys are legends. 0.92

02:11:30.000 For sure.

02:11:30.000 In every sense of the word.

02:11:32.000 That doesn't surprise me at all, actually, that they swim in from Alcatraz.

02:11:36.000 Makes sense.

02:11:36.000 Well, people missed Nick's prime.

02:11:38.000 Because Nick's prime, a lot of it happened in Strikeforce.

02:11:41.000 People missed that.

02:11:43.000 That's when he was just so dominant.

02:11:46.000 So he came into the UFC kind of later into his...

02:11:48.000 Well, he started the UFC very early.

02:11:50.000 So he knocks out Robbie Lawler early in his career, has some great fights early in his career.

02:11:55.000 So he was in the UFC early on, but then left the UFC and went over to Strikeforce, where I think he reached his prime.

02:12:02.000 Like when he beat Frank Shamrock and Cyborg. 0.96

02:12:06.000 He was in his fucking prime over there, like a world championship caliber prime. 0.97

02:12:10.000 But that guy would swim from Alcatraz in between his... 0.99

02:12:16.000 He's training for fights, and in between training for fights, he's running triathlons and hitting the bong while he's doing it.

02:12:23.000 Like, it's hilarious. 0.99

02:12:25.000 He's high as fuck running triathlons. 0.99

02:12:27.000 You ever just see someone and you're like, you're so different than me? 0.99

02:12:30.000 So different.

02:12:31.000 Like, our lives couldn't be more different.

02:12:33.000 My friend Cam Haynes right now is running a 250-mile race with a broken foot.

02:12:42.000 What?

02:12:43.000 Bro, if my foot was broken, I would get it fixed, and I definitely wouldn't run.

02:12:47.000 I might not ever run again.

02:12:48.000 He's doing half of the Daytona 500 on a broken foot.

02:12:52.000 On a broken foot.

02:12:53.000 In the mountains.

02:12:54.000 Going through the mountains.

02:12:55.000 No, thank you.

02:12:56.000 Yeah, no, pass, please.

02:12:57.000 I mean, I wouldn't even go do that fat boy 5K.

02:13:01.000 You think I'm going to be doing that?

02:13:04.000 Courtney Dowalter's currently in second place.

02:13:06.000 She's already around 48 miles today.

02:13:09.000 That's so nuts.

02:13:10.000 When did it start?

02:13:10.000 Courtney Dillwalter.

02:13:12.000 We've had her on the podcast before. 0.59

02:13:13.000 She's an animal.

02:13:15.000 A pure animal.

02:13:16.000 So it started this morning?

02:13:17.000 Is that what you said?

02:13:17.000 Yeah.

02:13:19.000 48 miles.

02:13:20.000 She's behind by three miles right now.

02:13:22.000 Who's ahead of her? 0.99

02:13:23.000 A guy named Harold Subertas.

02:13:27.000 Does he win these things?

02:13:28.000 There's only a few people.

02:13:30.000 She's one of them.

02:13:30.000 Courtney's one of them.

02:13:31.000 There's only a few people that win these things.

02:13:33.000 A lot of people start off real fast, but you can't keep it up for three days.

02:13:36.000 Could you imagine running 48 miles in a day and you're in second place?

02:13:41.000 Not even in a day.

02:13:43.000 In like five hours.

02:13:44.000 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:13:45.000 Can you imagine you run 48 miles and you're like, well, you lost.

02:13:48.000 Yeah, bro, you're three miles behind.

02:13:51.000 Like, what?

02:13:53.000 Yeah, it's nuts. 0.98

02:13:54.000 Yeah, I'd put a shotgun in my mouth so quick before I did any of that.

02:13:57.000 But we need people like you, and we need people like them. 0.98

02:14:01.000 That's the beautiful thing about the human race, is that we're all so fucking different. 0.51

02:14:06.000 Yeah.

02:14:06.000 There's so many versions of humans out there, and we should, really, we should celebrate that.

02:14:13.000 I love it.

02:14:14.000 That's a good thing.

02:14:15.000 I love how different, like, whenever I go back and look at, like, people from history or whatever, that's like one of the...

02:14:21.000 The things I like the most about it is how I'm like, God, that person's night and day different from me.

02:14:26.000 But that's so cool that they did what they did or whatever.

02:14:30.000 Like a Teddy Roosevelt.

02:14:31.000 There's nothing about me that is like Teddy Roosevelt.

02:14:34.000 How about that dude that ate that guy's heart that had been pickled?

02:14:37.000 Oh, yeah, William Buckland.

02:14:38.000 Yeah, he ate King Louis XIV's heart. 1.00

02:14:41.000 Tell that fucking story. 1.00

02:14:43.000 Yeah, well, King Louis XIV just in general, an absolute nut job. 1.00

02:14:47.000 Birthing fetish, like to watch women give birth. 1.00

02:14:50.000 Don't we all? 0.98

02:14:52.000 But yeah, so he dies.

02:14:56.000 130 years later, you know, his heart has been preserved in what I guess would be formaldehyde.

02:15:02.000 And it's sitting in this guy's office, basically.

02:15:06.000 And a fellow, I think he was like the Archbishop of Canterbury, I don't know, some lord, whatever their little fruity little names they give each other.

02:15:14.000 But then this fellow named William Buckland comes in and who had kind of like a notorious... 0.98

02:15:20.000 Big stomach, ate a lot of weird shit, and he saw the heart and was like, holy hell, that's the heart of King Louis XIV. 0.98

02:15:26.000 I've never eaten the heart of a king before, so how about I just give it a try? 1.00

02:15:31.000 And then they come back in, and he's eaten the damn heart. 0.99

02:15:35.000 Raw? 1.00

02:15:36.000 Well, preserved.

02:15:38.000 I mean, it's about as preserved as it gets.

02:15:39.000 It's been preserved for 130 years.

02:15:40.000 But he's not even cooking it.

02:15:41.000 That's my point.

02:15:42.000 No, no, no, no.

02:15:43.000 He didn't have like a hot plate in there.

02:15:44.000 Just pulling it out.

02:15:45.000 Yeah, it wasn't in the microwave.

02:15:47.000 Imagine being in the room with that guy when he takes those bites.

02:15:50.000 You'd be like...

02:15:51.000 Oh, God.

02:15:52.000 You'd be retching.

02:15:53.000 Like, what are you doing, man?

02:15:55.000 The smell of formaldehyde.

02:15:55.000 Have you ever dissected like an animal or something in high school?

02:15:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:15:59.000 That smell is like a smell that...

02:16:00.000 I can smell it right now thinking about it, you know?

02:16:03.000 Like, it's one of those things that never leaves you.

02:16:05.000 It's like a dead body smell.

02:16:07.000 Biting into a raw heart with that smell.

02:16:10.000 It's probably pretty tender.

02:16:11.000 He tried to eat everything.

02:16:12.000 He doffs his cab to Victorian feud hero, a gentleman whose ambition was to eat an example of every animal in existence.

02:16:20.000 Again, this is Courtney, Del Walter, and Cam Haynes who are running 250 miles right now, and this is this dude who's like, I want to eat one of everything. 0.99

02:16:28.000 I want to eat a fucking rat. 0.99

02:16:30.000 I mean, what a... 1.00

02:16:31.000 This guy ate rats.

02:16:32.000 He probably had rabies.

02:16:34.000 He kept a pet jackal in his house.

02:16:36.000 This guy had a jackal in his house.

02:16:38.000 He built the country's first mosque, had a jackal in his house. 0.97

02:16:42.000 He lived in a hut made from driftwood, dressed as a mermaid, and excommunicated his cat.

02:16:47.000 There's somebody else, though.

02:16:49.000 I really should have done a guy named Robert.

02:16:51.000 Hawker.

02:16:52.000 Oh.

02:16:53.000 To the West, famed Cornish poet Robert Stephen Hawker lived in a...

02:16:56.000 So this is not him?

02:16:57.000 These are just a bunch of weird guys that were living in that time, I think.

02:16:59.000 Oh! 0.60

02:17:00.000 Oh, so it's a different cat.

02:17:01.000 Then it goes into that.

02:17:02.000 Oh, this is a different cat.

02:17:03.000 Oh, yeah.

02:17:03.000 Not any of these were...

02:17:04.000 Oh, I thought it was the same guy.

02:17:05.000 Okay, this is just a bunch of weirdos all throughout history.

02:17:09.000 So, Major General Charles George Gordon.

02:17:12.000 So, it's the third paragraph that starts with William Buckland, I think.

02:17:14.000 These are all eccentric guys from...

02:17:16.000 Oh, different people.

02:17:17.000 So, then right here, Buckland was born.

02:17:18.000 I think that's all going to be about him.

02:17:21.000 This is also pretty good, though.

02:17:22.000 Don't leave this out.

02:17:23.000 Right.

02:17:23.000 So, this guy, Major General Charles George Gordon, a British Army officer whose day job saw him fight a series of bloody campaigns across the Middle East and Africa, yet was almost as notorious for believing the Earth was encased in a hollow sphere.

02:17:37.000 And that the Garden of Eden was located in the sea somewhere off the coast of Seychelles.

02:17:43.000 Seychelles.

02:17:43.000 People believe that now.

02:17:45.000 I don't think you might not be wrong.

02:17:52.000 William Buckland, so the man who ate everything, born in 1784, a year in which famine in Japan claimed 300,000 lives and a massive locust swarm hit South Africa.

02:18:04.000 Coincidence, of course, but it fits in the theme of this blog.

02:18:07.000 Nicely, so I'm leaving it in.

02:18:08.000 So this guy ate everything he could.

02:18:13.000 He had his hand in a huge hyena skull.

02:18:16.000 He suddenly dashed on the steps, rushed skull in hand, the first undergraduate on the front bench, and shouted, What rules the world?

02:18:22.000 The youth, terrified, answered not a word.

02:18:25.000 He rushed then onto me, pointing the hyena full in my face. 0.98

02:18:28.000 What rules the world?

02:18:30.000 Having an idea, I said.

02:18:32.000 The stomach, sir, he cried, rules the world. 0.87

02:18:34.000 The great ones eat the less, the less, the lesser still.

02:18:38.000 So he just thought he was going to be great by eating everything?

02:18:41.000 Here's some of the stuff he was eating.

02:18:43.000 So his lifelong personal ambition, which is to eat an example of every animal in existence, like some kind of crazed, bloodthirsty Noah.

02:18:54.000 Oh, my God.

02:18:54.000 He ate a porpoise, a puppy, and a panther.

02:18:57.000 Aw, alliteration.

02:18:58.000 And that's just the piece.

02:18:59.000 Mice on toast were a regular feature of his no-doubt popular soirees.

02:19:03.000 Oh, my God.

02:19:04.000 He ate a porpoise and a puppy.

02:19:07.000 Jesus Christ.

02:19:08.000 I mean, the porpoise probably wouldn't be so bad.

02:19:10.000 I'd eat the puppy.

02:19:11.000 It's like dog veal.

02:19:13.000 Yeah, I guess.

02:19:15.000 I mean, I wouldn't necessarily eat.

02:19:17.000 Like flagstones to this proof of myth.

02:19:18.000 Myth identifying the flavor as...

02:19:21.000 Bat urine. 0.96

02:19:25.000 How would you know that so quick?

02:19:27.000 Well, I think you had a real good reason.

02:19:32.000 But eating the heart, I bet all those years of formaldehyde is probably quite tender.

02:19:35.000 Right?

02:19:36.000 Yeah.

02:19:37.000 Oh, it probably melts your mouth with butter.

02:19:38.000 What if it just tasted amazing for some reason?

02:19:41.000 Right.

02:19:41.000 What if it got you high?

02:19:42.000 Oh, my God.

02:19:43.000 Because that's how you find God.

02:19:44.000 Some guy had it.

02:19:45.000 A guy had it.

02:19:45.000 Yeah, Lord Harcourt.

02:19:46.000 That's who I was talking about.

02:19:49.000 Esoterica.

02:19:50.000 Imagine how mad he'd be if some guy ate your heart that you've been saving.

02:19:54.000 I'd be pissed.

02:19:56.000 The worst thing Buckland ever ate?

02:19:59.000 Blue bottles.

02:20:00.000 What does that blue bottles mean?

02:20:02.000 It's a diet.

02:20:03.000 I had a fish starter at Maslow's.

02:20:06.000 I think this is...

02:20:07.000 Might be some sort of...

02:20:09.000 Is it just a joke?

02:20:10.000 Blue bottles.

02:20:11.000 What could that be?

02:20:13.000 Unless he's actually eating...

02:20:15.000 Glass?

02:20:16.000 I don't think that's what it is.

02:20:17.000 Oh! 0.60

02:20:18.000 Portuguese Manowar.

02:20:20.000 It's a pretty cool looking thing.

02:20:21.000 Wow, that looks like a mermaid. 1.00

02:20:23.000 Yeah.

02:20:23.000 Click on that one in the upper...

02:20:24.000 Yeah, right there.

02:20:25.000 No, the one to the right of that?

02:20:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:20:27.000 Look at that fucking thing. 1.00

02:20:29.000 Yeah, you know, I kind of do want to eat that. 1.00

02:20:32.000 I'm sort of with him on this.

02:20:34.000 So is that like a jellyfish?

02:20:36.000 Yeah, Manowar's a jellyfish.

02:20:38.000 So that must be insanely toxic.

02:20:40.000 But I think Manowar, aren't they like, yeah, like super venomous?

02:20:44.000 He ate that?

02:20:45.000 Of course it's the worst thing.

02:20:46.000 Maybe they're not.

02:20:47.000 It literally could kill you.

02:20:49.000 That doesn't seem like it'd be the worst thing, though.

02:20:51.000 Well, he didn't need everything, I guess.

02:20:53.000 He probably died along the way. 1.00

02:20:54.000 You can only do that for so long before your body says, fuck you. 1.00

02:20:57.000 Yeah, I wonder how long you lived. 1.00

02:20:59.000 Yeah, how long did that guy live?

02:21:00.000 Find out how long that guy lived.

02:21:02.000 Have you ever heard of him?

02:21:03.000 How old was that guy when he died?

02:21:07.000 1856?

02:21:08.000 Oh, he lived for a pretty good amount of time.

02:21:10.000 Pretty decent amount of time.

02:21:11.000 84 to 72. Pretty decent amount of time eating everything he could.

02:21:15.000 That's a ripe age for him. 0.99

02:21:16.000 Back then, too, when there's no fucking doctors, the doctors are all guessing. 0.98

02:21:21.000 Yeah, and just coming to your house one after another. 0.99

02:21:24.000 You break your leg, they bust out a meat saw.

02:21:27.000 Yeah, like, wash my hands. 0.99

02:21:28.000 They tie that fucking leg down and saw it off at the hip, and you're screaming. 1.00

02:21:33.000 They tell you to bite a piece of leather. 1.00

02:21:34.000 That was a doctor back then.

02:21:35.000 They thought germs didn't exist.

02:21:37.000 Yeah, they were dirty fingers, pulling babies out, everybody's dying of sepsis. 0.96

02:21:42.000 Nuts. 0.86

02:21:43.000 Have you ever heard of a tarare?

02:21:45.000 Tarare was a guy, a T-A-R-R-A-R-E, I think. 1.00

02:21:48.000 What's this, Jamie?

02:21:50.000 He kind of discovered dinosaurs.

02:21:53.000 What?

02:21:54.000 Same guy?

02:21:55.000 Yeah.

02:21:56.000 That ate everything?

02:21:56.000 Yeah.

02:21:57.000 Whoa.

02:22:01.000 That's another fun one.

02:22:02.000 The dinosaurs aren't real?

02:22:03.000 That's a fun one.

02:22:04.000 I can buy it to an extent because there are so many fakes.

02:22:10.000 The reality.

02:22:11.000 In the early days of dinosaur research, there was two guys that were competing with each other and they were faking fossils.

02:22:18.000 That's true.

02:22:18.000 But also dinosaurs are real.

02:22:20.000 But also, like, that alligator gar, that's a fucking living dinosaur. 0.99

02:22:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

02:22:25.000 They used to exist, for sure. 0.98

02:22:28.000 Well, some of the, like, real big ones, you're like, they've never found one of those.

02:22:33.000 They just find like a...

02:22:35.000 Some stuff, right?

02:22:35.000 They find some stuff and then they go, well, we think it probably looked like this based on its vertebrae looking like this.

02:22:41.000 And when you go see the skeleton at the Perot Museum or wherever, that's all fake.

02:22:47.000 There's maybe one piece in there that's real.

02:22:50.000 Right.

02:22:50.000 There are some of those.

02:22:52.000 I can get the skepticism behind that a little bit.

02:22:55.000 But to say like, oh, the whole thing's... 0.99

02:22:58.000 Like that there is no such thing as a dinosaur, that's bullshit. 0.99

02:23:01.000 It seems silly that people would just lie openly about that. 0.92

02:23:03.000 But there are some that are intact.

02:23:05.000 Like they found some raptors that are intact.

02:23:07.000 They found some stuff that's intact. 0.99

02:23:09.000 I have a friend and his buddy found a fucking T-Rex in Montana. 0.98

02:23:14.000 I don't know how much of it they found. 0.99

02:23:16.000 They found quite a bit of it, though. 0.99

02:23:18.000 To the point where they brought in a professional excavation and they pulled out this big-ass fucking T-Rex in Montana. 0.99

02:23:25.000 Could you imagine? 0.99

02:23:26.000 Montana used to be a part of the Great Inland Sea.

02:23:28.000 There was a sea.

02:23:31.000 There's like seashells up there, which is nuts.

02:23:34.000 That's probably what the Badlands were.

02:23:36.000 I mean, what was it called?

02:23:38.000 There was, like, a particular name for, like, the great...

02:23:40.000 There was a North American, like, inland ocean.

02:23:43.000 Yeah.

02:23:44.000 Bananas, man.

02:23:45.000 Ocean of America.

02:23:46.000 Yeah, that's a...

02:23:47.000 And there's T-Rexes around it.

02:23:50.000 Like...

02:23:50.000 That's...

02:23:51.000 God.

02:23:52.000 Imagine if there was, like, one point in the history.

02:23:55.000 Western Interior Seaway?

02:23:56.000 The Western Interior Seaway.

02:23:58.000 Oh, so that's what it looked like.

02:23:59.000 A large inland sea that existed roughly over present-day Great Plains of North America.

02:24:05.000 Wow.

02:24:07.000 If there was a time that you could just...

02:24:09.000 Look at that.

02:24:10.000 Look at what it used to look like.

02:24:11.000 That's so nuts.

02:24:14.000 And look at the Appalachians.

02:24:16.000 That's what America looked like. 0.98

02:24:17.000 Florida was completely underwater.

02:24:19.000 That's nuts.

02:24:20.000 Most of Texas. 1.00

02:24:22.000 Where we are is above water, but fuck, man. 0.99

02:24:25.000 That's crazy how much water there was. 0.99

02:24:28.000 Isn't that nuts?

02:24:29.000 Yeah, it's the whole Texas.

02:24:33.000 Oh my god.

02:24:34.000 Yeah.

02:24:35.000 Like Nevada's not.

02:24:36.000 And Tulsa's alright.

02:24:37.000 They made it out.

02:24:39.000 Massachusetts is okay.

02:24:41.000 That is crazy to see how big that was.

02:24:44.000 Yeah, that's... 0.99

02:24:44.000 And there's all kinds of nutty shit that was living in that water too, man. 0.99

02:24:48.000 Jesus, yeah. 0.99

02:24:50.000 I mean, because agar is like the least of... 0.99

02:24:52.000 That's like a minnow compared to some of the shit that was probably around there. 0.99

02:24:55.000 It's a chicken compared to like a great eagle. 0.99

02:24:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:24:59.000 Yeah.

02:25:00.000 Like a host eagle.

02:25:01.000 The eagles that hunted people in New Zealand.

02:25:03.000 Yeah.

02:25:04.000 That's so crazy.

02:25:07.000 Eagles jack people. 1.00

02:25:09.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

02:25:11.000 They think that's why they went extinct. 1.00

02:25:13.000 I hope they bring dinosaurs back.

02:25:15.000 They probably are going to.

02:25:16.000 Yeah.

02:25:17.000 I mean, part of me is kind of against it, but then part of me is because Josh Park's my favorite movie.

02:25:22.000 They got Leather.

02:25:23.000 Did you see that someone's against?

02:25:25.000 T-Rex.

02:25:25.000 T-Rex purse.

02:25:26.000 Yeah, they're going to make T-Rex purses. 0.94

02:25:28.000 I'm going to get a T-Rex fanny pack.

02:25:30.000 Jesus.

02:25:30.000 For sure.

02:25:31.000 I mean. 1.00

02:25:32.000 I'm going to rock that shit. 1.00

02:25:33.000 What more badass of a thing could there possibly be than a T-Rex fanny pack? 1.00

02:25:37.000 I know, right?

02:25:38.000 I'm with you.

02:25:38.000 Yeah, T-Rex Crocs.

02:25:40.000 The company claims leather made from 66 million-year-old dinosaur DNA is coming.

02:25:45.000 I think some people are very skeptical about this.

02:25:48.000 We should probably say this.

02:25:50.000 One of the things that the guys from Colossal were telling me, the guys who resurrected the dire wolf, they were telling me, Ben Lamb was telling me, that when it comes to DNA of dinosaurs, they don't really have DNA of dinosaurs.

02:26:05.000 It's too old.

02:26:06.000 They don't have full DNA.

02:26:08.000 Profiles, or whatever you would call it.

02:26:10.000 But what they will be able to do is sort of engineer a dinosaur, which is even crazier. 0.99

02:26:15.000 Take the surviving creatures, like chickens, shit like that, that have dinosaur DNA, because chickens are full-on dinosaurs. 0.98

02:26:24.000 Take their DNA and engineer a T-Rex out of that. 0.99

02:26:30.000 Or a raptor.

02:26:31.000 A raptor, like, way smarter than a crow.

02:26:34.000 How about that?

02:26:35.000 Like, hunting people through the woods. 0.99

02:26:37.000 A little five-foot fucking creepy super lizard that can run 50 miles an hour. 1.00

02:26:41.000 Clever girl. 1.00

02:26:43.000 Yeah, that would be...

02:26:44.000 God, dude.

02:26:46.000 I'd love it.

02:26:47.000 I hope they do.

02:26:47.000 They could do that.

02:26:48.000 They're really... 0.99

02:26:49.000 Look, if they can take human beings and integrate them with tardigrade DNA and have them become fucking superheroes, they can make a dinosaur. 1.00

02:27:00.000 Man. 0.99

02:27:00.000 They made dire wolves. 0.99

02:27:01.000 They made three of them.

02:27:02.000 Which is insane.

02:27:03.000 It's so crazy, too.

02:27:04.000 It's nuts.

02:27:05.000 Like, they exist.

02:27:06.000 I think they're like 11 months old now or something like that.

02:27:09.000 Oh, it's that?

02:27:10.000 Jesus.

02:27:12.000 Yeah.

02:27:13.000 Yeah, they don't...

02:27:14.000 Ben Lamb told me he doesn't go around them anymore.

02:27:17.000 Like, he bottle-fed them when they were puppies.

02:27:19.000 But then when they got to a certain age, he's like, uh, I think we're done.

02:27:22.000 Like, after like four or five months.

02:27:24.000 Like, I think we're done.

02:27:25.000 What was that, Jamie?

02:27:26.000 The T-Rex DNA is 66 million years old.

02:27:29.000 It dies.

02:27:30.000 The DNA starts to go away as soon as they die.

02:27:33.000 And the oldest preserved DNA on record currently is only 2 million years old.

02:27:37.000 So it wouldn't be a T-Rex.

02:27:39.000 So it wouldn't be a T-Rex.

02:27:39.000 But they might be able to make exactly what we think a T-Rex was.

02:27:43.000 But we would be really off.

02:27:45.000 Because we don't know what their tissue looked like.

02:27:47.000 That's where it gets really strange.

02:27:49.000 Like all the stuff that rots away.

02:27:51.000 Have you ever seen, like, an artist's depiction of what, if they take a hippo skull, like, what an artist's depiction of what the animal could look like?

02:27:59.000 No.

02:27:59.000 It looks like a monster.

02:28:00.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, I would imagine.

02:28:02.000 And then you see the reality, and it's like, oh, hungry, hungry hippo, big old sweetie.

02:28:06.000 Right.

02:28:07.000 Hippo looks like a sweetie with cute little ears.

02:28:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:28:10.000 You know?

02:28:10.000 Yeah.

02:28:11.000 But then artists have depicted it, like, if we didn't know what it looked like, maybe it looked like this.

02:28:16.000 Right.

02:28:17.000 You know?

02:28:17.000 Yeah.

02:28:19.000 That's crazy.

02:28:19.000 The meme says how aliens would reconstruct it.

02:28:23.000 Oh, that's interesting.

02:28:26.000 Oh, okay.

02:28:27.000 The one in the middle.

02:28:29.000 But you could.

02:28:30.000 If you came from another planet and you saw this, like, oh my god, this thing must have been a terrific looking beast.

02:28:36.000 Yeah.

02:28:37.000 Oh, wow.

02:28:38.000 The skull.

02:28:39.000 How aliens would reconstruct the animal and it's an elephant.

02:28:41.000 Wow.

02:28:42.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:28:43.000 Yeah.

02:28:44.000 I bet that's where the Cyclops myth comes from.

02:28:47.000 Seen elephant skulls?

02:28:48.000 Yeah.

02:28:48.000 That actually makes perfect...

02:28:49.000 I've never seen an elephant skull, so I had no clue there was...

02:28:53.000 Which makes sense, because it's the trunk.

02:28:55.000 I don't even know if it's...

02:28:56.000 Where the trunk is, yeah.

02:28:56.000 I don't know if it's the elephant skull.

02:28:58.000 I think it is, Jamie.

02:29:00.000 That's got to be...

02:29:01.000 I mean, it makes sense, because the trunk just goes right to the mouth.

02:29:04.000 Look at that.

02:29:05.000 Bro, that has to be where the Cyclops comes from.

02:29:07.000 Has to be, right?

02:29:08.000 Has to, yeah.

02:29:09.000 Especially if you found a female one that didn't have tusks. 0.99

02:29:11.000 I think it's listening to you, but...

02:29:13.000 Bro.

02:29:14.000 What'd you say, Jamie?

02:29:16.000 I didn't even type in Cyclops, and it was the first thing that was on top.

02:29:20.000 Maybe it's because that's a theory that's been around for a long time.

02:29:24.000 I've been noticing this happen.

02:29:25.000 Yeah, look, it says that right there.

02:29:26.000 Right there, Reddit.

02:29:28.000 Cyclops is likely inspired by Elphinsville.

02:29:29.000 I've been noticing this happen a lot.

02:29:31.000 You'll be saying something.

02:29:32.000 You think the government's listening?

02:29:33.000 Well, they're helping us.

02:29:34.000 It's auto-completing what you just said.

02:29:35.000 They're fans of the show, Jamie.

02:29:36.000 They're trying to help out.

02:29:40.000 But it makes sense.

02:29:41.000 I mean, if you found stuff from a long...

02:29:43.000 What do you think of...

02:29:44.000 Here's one that always gets me.

02:29:47.000 Stories of giants.

02:29:49.000 I want that to be real so bad.

02:29:51.000 I want all of this to be real.

02:29:53.000 That the Smithsonian's been hiding the information.

02:29:55.000 Those are the big conspiracies.

02:29:56.000 Could be.

02:29:57.000 Down in their basement, they've got like a 10-foot-tall human being.

02:30:00.000 A race of giants that existed.

02:30:02.000 Rome, the earth.

02:30:03.000 Yeah.

02:30:04.000 David and Goliath's a real story.

02:30:07.000 It just seems like they wouldn't be gone.

02:30:10.000 They wouldn't be the ones that would have been killed off.

02:30:13.000 Unless, in the cataclysm, like the Younger Dryas Impact Theory, there wasn't enough food.

02:30:18.000 Oh, brother.

02:30:19.000 And they died off, you know?

02:30:20.000 Because if you're that big, you need to eat a lot.

02:30:23.000 So you think they were around, like, way long ago?

02:30:26.000 They died off way long ago.

02:30:28.000 Yeah.

02:30:28.000 Yeah, I don't think like recently, but I think like it is.

02:30:32.000 There's so many stories and so many cultures have these stories, even in the Bible, of a race of giants.

02:30:38.000 Like it seems like it couldn't just be big people.

02:30:42.000 Right.

02:30:43.000 It seems like what they're talking about is something crazy.

02:30:46.000 I guess it could be.

02:30:47.000 It could be.

02:30:48.000 Because if you're just mythologizing, that's a word.

02:30:52.000 But if you're just turning something that is real, this is the same with a dragon.

02:30:56.000 People obviously just get inspired by things that are around them.

02:30:59.000 They start to morph into things.

02:31:01.000 I mean, there was no fire-breathing animal flying around. 0.85

02:31:04.000 Probably crocodiles and shit like that. 0.99

02:31:05.000 Yeah, crocodiles. 0.99

02:31:06.000 And then there are cobras that spit venom, which obviously gets in your eyes. 1.00

02:31:10.000 Probably going to burn like a son of a bitch. 0.99

02:31:12.000 So there's the fire myth. 1.00

02:31:14.000 And people exaggerate. 0.98

02:31:15.000 Yeah, so people will take somebody who is a big son of a bitch and they go, oh, well, let's exaggerate and say that the guy he fought was nine feet tall instead of six foot five. 0.99

02:31:26.000 Exactly. 0.99

02:31:27.000 Which he probably was.

02:31:28.000 Yeah.

02:31:28.000 But also, when you talk about races of these giants, you could also be talking about people from Iceland.

02:31:34.000 Yeah, who were naturally big as hell.

02:31:37.000 Enormous Viking dudes.

02:31:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:31:39.000 Who always win those fucking strongmen competitions. 0.99

02:31:42.000 You know, those guys are... 1.00

02:31:42.000 There's giants up there. 1.00

02:31:44.000 Oh, yeah.

02:31:44.000 Like the Mountain from Game of Thrones.

02:31:46.000 Like that kind of person.

02:31:48.000 So you think about that.

02:31:50.000 That size human.

02:31:51.000 Right.

02:31:52.000 There could have been a bunch of those around, and maybe that's what they were talking about, giants.

02:31:57.000 Or...

02:31:57.000 There could have been, like, a specific race of humans.

02:32:00.000 Like, they keep finding these additional types of humans.

02:32:04.000 Like, they found Denisovans fairly recently.

02:32:07.000 And then that other one that we brought up the other day, the big-headed people, that's fairly recently.

02:32:12.000 They've discovered that this is a completely different branch.

02:32:15.000 But here's the thing.

02:32:18.000 If they did find those, would they tell us?

02:32:20.000 Like, if archaeologists...

02:32:22.000 Like, who would put the cap on that?

02:32:24.000 If they found, like, a...

02:32:25.000 10-foot human.

02:32:27.000 Just gigantic dead human with a huge sword underground.

02:32:32.000 Would they just say, we're wrong.

02:32:34.000 Giants existed.

02:32:36.000 Or would they go, people can't handle this?

02:32:38.000 That's the question for so many things.

02:32:43.000 They might say people can't handle it.

02:32:45.000 It's not outside the realm of possibility.

02:32:48.000 I would say, yeah, they'd probably say...

02:32:51.000 Isn't that infuriating?

02:32:52.000 Yeah.

02:32:53.000 Can you imagine if it was you?

02:32:54.000 Now imagine you're out in West Texas, wherever you are, hanging out with your friends and somebody notices something in the ground and you start digging. 0.98

02:33:04.000 And you pull out a fucking thigh bone that's this big, and you plop it down. 0.99

02:33:09.000 You go, what the fuck is that? 0.99

02:33:11.000 And then you got a buddy who works at the university nearby, and he starts digging. 1.00

02:33:14.000 He's like, hey, dude, this is a fucking human foot. 0.98

02:33:17.000 And he pulls out a human foot that's size 38. And you're like, what is going on, man? 0.99

02:33:22.000 And so then you bring in some experts, and they're like, holy shit, dude, this is a giant. 0.92

02:33:25.000 And then they do DNA tests. 0.88

02:33:27.000 They find out it's a real, actual creature.

02:33:30.000 Yeah.

02:33:31.000 I'm telling everyone.

02:33:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:33:35.000 They're going to kill you. 1.00

02:33:36.000 The scientists will kill you. 1.00

02:33:37.000 They're going to run you off the road. 1.00

02:33:39.000 Look at this.

02:33:41.000 Longest, or I guess it would be the tallest.

02:33:43.000 That people have ever found?

02:33:44.000 That they've ever found.

02:33:45.000 It was found in China.

02:33:46.000 It's supposedly about 4,400 years old.

02:33:49.000 Would have been about 16, 18 years old.

02:33:51.000 The weird thing here is, though, that it says there was three drill holes found in the skull, and they don't know why.

02:34:00.000 Whoa.

02:34:01.000 Drill holes.

02:34:02.000 How big was it?

02:34:04.000 6-4.

02:34:05.000 Oh. 0.98

02:34:06.000 Well, back then, that was probably fucking huge. 0.98

02:34:08.000 Well, you said they found it in China? 0.98

02:34:10.000 Yeah.

02:34:11.000 That's a giant.

02:34:11.000 And they're calling it, yeah, they call it a giant.

02:34:13.000 It might be Mongolian, you know? 0.99

02:34:14.000 Well, compared to the Chinese that are found, they're probably like, holy shit. 1.00

02:34:19.000 Goliath is anywhere from modern day, maybe they say up to 6-6, but taking the word for word from the Bible, it would have been about 9-9. 0.89

02:34:27.000 Yeah, that's what I always thought.

02:34:30.000 Right.

02:34:31.000 Well, back then, nobody had any food, and the average man was probably like 5 '4".

02:34:35.000 So if you encounter some dude who's 6 '6", some big jack guy, that is a giant.

02:34:41.000 That's a giant.

02:34:42.000 And also, you've got to think, human beings, if they exist today and they're 6 '6", they had a potential to be that big back then.

02:34:47.000 They just didn't get the food.

02:34:49.000 But if you are in some very nutrient-rich environment...

02:34:54.000 Both those guys play pro basketball.

02:34:57.000 Muggsy Bogues, yeah.

02:34:59.000 But there's smaller people that exist that can function and do stuff.

02:35:03.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

02:35:04.000 But what's crazy is that the potential for that guy, the Yao guy, who's... 0.65

02:35:08.000 How tall is he?

02:35:11.000 That exists in the human genome, right?

02:35:13.000 That's not like we engineered them like we did dogs.

02:35:15.000 Like, that exists.

02:35:16.000 So maybe back then, if you had a ton of food and you didn't have to worry about war, like, and people just kept breeding and growing and getting nutrient-rich. 0.98

02:35:25.000 Because the thing about people in the past was they didn't get any fucking food, man. 0.98

02:35:29.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:35:30.000 Like, the average size of a guy who fought in the Civil War was, I think, 125 pounds or something.

02:35:35.000 Five foot four and 120, I think.

02:35:37.000 Nuts.

02:35:37.000 Yeah.

02:35:38.000 Starving to death.

02:35:39.000 Starving to death. 0.99

02:35:40.000 They're shooting people with muskets. 0.99

02:35:41.000 It's like a 14-year-old girl.

02:35:42.000 I mean, that's like, yeah.

02:35:44.000 Right?

02:35:45.000 And all they needed was food.

02:35:46.000 You know, you give them protein and then they grow normal-sized, which is really wild.

02:35:51.000 Yeah.

02:35:51.000 Because there's tons of people that are well over seven feet.

02:35:54.000 It's not like it's, I mean, it is an anomaly compared to everyone.

02:35:57.000 Speaking of, there's one guy in the Civil War, 7 '6".

02:36:00.000 7 '6".

02:36:01.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:36:02.000 Everybody else was 5 '8".

02:36:03.000 Average 5 '8".

02:36:04.000 He was 7 '6 in the Civil War. 1.00

02:36:06.000 Holy shit. 0.98

02:36:08.000 Oh, that's not a picture of him, I guess. 0.98

02:36:10.000 But the thing about the stories in the Bible, though, it's like these are like mystical giants.

02:36:15.000 The Nephilim, you know? 0.87

02:36:18.000 Look at this guy.

02:36:20.000 There you go.

02:36:22.000 Bro, you do not want to box that guy.

02:36:24.000 7 '6".

02:36:25.000 7 '6".

02:36:26.000 Well, she must be pretty tall. 0.98

02:36:27.000 Yeah.

02:36:28.000 I mean...

02:36:29.000 She probably needed to do that big, take care of her. 1.00

02:36:30.000 Yeah, probably.

02:36:31.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:36:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:36:32.000 She can't be in this 5 '8 guy. 1.00

02:36:34.000 Yeah, she can't be fucking with me. 1.00

02:36:36.000 She'll hold me down. 1.00

02:36:37.000 I'll have to fight that lady to the death. 1.00

02:36:40.000 No chance.

02:36:41.000 She needs a big man. 0.90

02:36:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:36:43.000 She's a big giant man to fuck her correctly. 1.00

02:36:44.000 Yes. 1.00

02:36:45.000 But the stories from the Bible and the stories from different...

02:36:50.000 Even the ancient Sumerian culture, they had the depictions of the Anunnaki and these big giant people. 0.98

02:36:56.000 What was that?

02:36:57.000 What is that all about?

02:36:58.000 Like, is that a story about a thing that used to be real? 0.99

02:37:01.000 Or is it bullshit? 0.97

02:37:02.000 Because it seems like the more we uncover with ancient history, just like Troy and probably Atlantis, the more you realize, like, none of it was bullshit. 0.99

02:37:11.000 It was just their version of trying to tell you the story. 0.88

02:37:15.000 Yeah, right.

02:37:16.000 All this stuff about the Nephilim, the Anunnaki, there's probably some sort of a story.

02:37:24.000 It's just parsing out what it really was after a thousand years of people just telling it before somebody writes it down.

02:37:31.000 Yeah, I think it's more just, yeah, you know, you're getting word of mouth over such a long time.

02:37:38.000 And it's probably exaggerated from the jump because you're just trying to tell.

02:37:43.000 Trying to tell a story.

02:37:44.000 Creativity isn't a new thing.

02:37:45.000 People were always creative.

02:37:47.000 And always lying.

02:37:48.000 And always trying to use their imagination.

02:37:52.000 And ultimately to create some sort of allegory.

02:37:56.000 I don't think any of it was true.

02:37:59.000 I think it was all just...

02:38:00.000 I think it makes sense how it all got created and how every culture has their own version.

02:38:07.000 To me, it's like an echo of the truth.

02:38:10.000 It's like there's an echo there, like, God, what was the original thing?

02:38:14.000 What was it all about?

02:38:15.000 Because, like, there's an echo to a lot of it, a lot of ancient stories and a lot of religious stories, too.

02:38:22.000 They're just like, man, I think something was going on.

02:38:25.000 And I think this is the echo of, like, this historical depiction of probably something real that went down, like the Noah and the Ark story.

02:38:36.000 I think that's a historical...

02:38:38.000 That's a depiction of that flood that we saw that wiped out Atlantis.

02:38:43.000 Without a doubt.

02:38:44.000 I mean, that's part of the epic of Gilgamesh.

02:38:47.000 There's a giant flood.

02:38:48.000 I mean, that's the oldest story ever written that we know of.

02:38:51.000 And it's not the only one that depicts a massive flood.

02:38:55.000 Pretty much every religion that's that old has some story involving a flood.

02:39:01.000 I think when you apply that...

02:39:03.000 To all the other stories, too.

02:39:05.000 You should probably assume that it wasn't fiction.

02:39:08.000 It might not be accurate because of all the factors that we already laid out.

02:39:12.000 Right.

02:39:12.000 Because of people.

02:39:13.000 But it's probably the echoes of a real story.

02:39:16.000 Well, The Flood is...

02:39:17.000 Yeah, so I do think that...

02:39:19.000 Because that's part of allegory is taking something that is real and then you just make almost a fairy tale out of it.

02:39:27.000 Right.

02:39:27.000 But you still have the...

02:39:29.000 Because you're telling...

02:39:30.000 In that sense, you're like...

02:39:32.000 Saving history, like you're preserving history, but you're not doing it in the sense that we would, as we would do it now, where we would like...

02:39:38.000 Dictate time and date and names.

02:39:40.000 You're just saying, oh, there was this great event that happened in our ancestors' time.

02:39:45.000 And if they figured this out, imagine if they figured out all these things thousands and thousands of years ago.

02:39:50.000 Then you have the flood, the impacts, society has to rebuild.

02:39:54.000 Then you're telling these stories over and over and over after all this time.

02:39:57.000 That would kind of account for a lot of things.

02:40:00.000 For sure.

02:40:00.000 And one of them would be that God created the universe in six days.

02:40:05.000 Yeah.

02:40:05.000 Because, like, what is the Big Bang?

02:40:08.000 Right.

02:40:08.000 What is six days?

02:40:09.000 Like, what are you saying?

02:40:10.000 Like, what does that mean?

02:40:11.000 Is it just a short amount of time?

02:40:13.000 Is that what you're trying to say?

02:40:13.000 Is that like 72 virgins?

02:40:15.000 You know, when they say 72 virgins in heaven, they don't really mean 72 virgins. 0.99

02:40:18.000 It's like a fuckload. 0.99

02:40:19.000 It's like the way of saying a fuckload. 0.98

02:40:21.000 Like, when you say God created the universe in six days, like, maybe that means, maybe that's the Big Bang.

02:40:27.000 Like, maybe you're literally talking about the birth of the universe.

02:40:30.000 Yeah.

02:40:31.000 In a very short period of time.

02:40:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:40:34.000 Just shut up. 1.00

02:40:35.000 Boom! 0.99

02:40:35.000 If the universe is infinite, it's been around forever, what is, like, that quick burst? 0.99

02:40:39.000 What is that?

02:40:42.000 Yeah.

02:40:42.000 I mean, that's, yeah, that's, I mean, that's how...

02:40:44.000 If you were trying to recall that story...

02:40:46.000 Right.

02:40:46.000 You would say, yeah, on this day this happened, this day that happened, but ultimately it's just day after day after day, and then seven days you rest, and otherwise, yeah, you're done.

02:40:54.000 Yeah, if you were trying to explain the birth of the universe that happened, that, like...

02:40:59.000 People were talking about it for thousands of years and then someone wrote it down on clay tablets thousands of years later.

02:41:06.000 These are just the memories of some ancient knowledge where people really had reached a level of sophistication that we could only imagine.

02:41:14.000 Yeah.

02:41:14.000 And they were just flat-lined right back to cave people again.

02:41:18.000 Yeah.

02:41:18.000 I mean, that's what happened.

02:41:19.000 Yeah, because like Greek mythology, all those mythology, it's like...

02:41:23.000 An actual birth.

02:41:24.000 It all starts with like there's darkness and then there's light.

02:41:28.000 And that's like a common theme with pretty much every religion, every mythology is there was a sea of darkness, then there was light.

02:41:35.000 Yeah, what if that's their version of the description of the Big Bang?

02:41:39.000 Yeah, it's just turning on a light.

02:41:41.000 That's how you describe the Big Bang to someone who has no concept of science.

02:41:44.000 Like, no idea.

02:41:45.000 Like, what are you talking about?

02:41:46.000 Atoms?

02:41:47.000 What?

02:41:47.000 Right.

02:41:48.000 What, molecules?

02:41:48.000 Subatomic particles?

02:41:49.000 What the fuck are you even saying? 0.99

02:41:51.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

02:41:51.000 You'd be like, yeah, imagine walking into a darkroom and flicking a light switch, and suddenly everything's here. 0.99

02:41:56.000 There was light.

02:41:57.000 Yeah.

02:41:57.000 I mean, that's the common theme throughout any of those religions.

02:42:01.000 Yeah.

02:42:01.000 Well, I think the appeal of, like, a page like yours and the kind of...

02:42:06.000 That kind of thing. 0.97

02:42:07.000 It's like people always love to learn cool shit and interesting shit. 0.99

02:42:11.000 Yeah, I think so. 0.99

02:42:12.000 Whether it's interesting shit about the universe or UFOs or crazy people throughout history. 1.00

02:42:19.000 Guy wrote Outlaw Josie Wells being a piece of shit. 1.00

02:42:23.000 I mean, the KKK is just not good. 1.00

02:42:26.000 They aren't big enough assholes. 0.99

02:42:28.000 Meanwhile, it's such a good movie. 1.00

02:42:29.000 It sucks. 0.99

02:42:30.000 Yeah, it is. 1.00

02:42:30.000 I mean, it's not like you can't watch the damn movie, but... 1.00

02:42:33.000 You gotta separate the man from the art. 0.98

02:42:35.000 Always.

02:42:36.000 And then also there's a bunch of other influences, I'm sure, where they wrote the script and changed a bunch of things.

02:42:39.000 Yeah.

02:42:40.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:42:41.000 No, people love learning shit. 0.99

02:42:43.000 You just gotta make it interesting. 0.99

02:42:44.000 Yeah.

02:42:45.000 School, I hated school.

02:42:47.000 But I had a couple teachers that made it interesting.

02:42:49.000 And I loved every day going to those classes. 0.98

02:42:51.000 Every other class could get fucked. 0.98

02:42:53.000 I was trying to skip. 0.99

02:42:54.000 I was trying to do whatever I could to get out of there.

02:42:57.000 Yeah, it's unfortunate, right?

02:42:58.000 It's like enthusiasm of the teacher is so important.

02:43:01.000 And the competency of the teacher is so important.

02:43:03.000 It makes...

02:43:05.000 Like I had a teacher, Mr. Simmons.

02:43:07.000 It was a high school history teacher.

02:43:09.000 And every day would tell like a story kind of similar to that.

02:43:11.000 Or not every day, but every day before like a big test.

02:43:14.000 That's how he started off.

02:43:16.000 Clear your minds.

02:43:17.000 Like, don't worry about this test.

02:43:18.000 Like, I'm going to tell you something.

02:43:19.000 And he had, like, this real deep, like, booming voice. 0.99

02:43:21.000 It was, like, the most fascinating shit ever. 0.98

02:43:23.000 And he would just tell this story that had nothing to do with the test. 0.99

02:43:27.000 It doesn't matter.

02:43:27.000 Like, he's like, this is just interesting.

02:43:29.000 Like, y 'all would like this.

02:43:30.000 It's fun.

02:43:31.000 Those people are so important.

02:43:33.000 I mean, that's, yeah, that guy, like, probably inspired me to do all kinds, like, more, probably, yeah.

02:43:38.000 It didn't, it took until I was long out of school before I really started getting interested in learning things.

02:43:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:43:44.000 I mean. 0.99

02:43:45.000 I didn't start really just diving into shit until after school. 0.99

02:43:50.000 I felt like all the way through school, through college, got my degree and all that. 0.99

02:43:55.000 I don't think I learned a damn thing.

02:43:57.000 I learned that college was a waste of time. 0.51

02:43:59.000 You learned how to get some student debt.

02:44:02.000 Yeah, dude.

02:44:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:44:04.000 That's all. 0.97

02:44:04.000 I mean, I didn't learn a fucking thing from any of that. 0.97

02:44:07.000 But they'll tell you that that's the only way to go. 0.98

02:44:09.000 No.

02:44:09.000 Which is just like, how do you know we're in space?

02:44:12.000 Yeah.

02:44:12.000 But this is crazy.

02:44:14.000 The people in the 1900s figured it out forever.

02:44:17.000 It can't be improved upon. 0.99

02:44:18.000 Are you fucking sure? 0.99

02:44:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:44:20.000 It's crazy, man. 0.99

02:44:22.000 Well, listen, brother.

02:44:22.000 Really fun talking to you.

02:44:24.000 Thanks, man.

02:44:24.000 I really appreciate it.

02:44:25.000 I really appreciate your channel.

02:44:26.000 It's very fun.

02:44:27.000 And now you know.

02:44:30.000 Mind-blowing stories from history and pop culture.

02:44:33.000 Cody Tucker out now.

02:44:35.000 Really fun talking to you, brother.

02:44:37.000 Let's do it again sometime.

02:44:38.000 Absolutely.

02:44:38.000 All right.

02:44:38.000 Thanks, sir.

02:44:39.000 Thank you.

02:44:39.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 07, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2317 - Cody Tucker

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