The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2320 - Tom Segura

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00:00:13.000 What's wrong with you?

00:00:16.000 How?

00:00:17.000 First of all, how did Netflix let you make this show?

00:00:20.000 Well, they wouldn't have let me make it if I just pitched it to them.

00:00:27.000 What did you do?

00:00:28.000 I made a few and showed it to them.

00:00:31.000 Oh my god.

00:00:32.000 Because I knew.

00:00:33.000 I knew that if we...

00:00:35.000 You can't give anybody the script.

00:00:37.000 No.

00:00:38.000 The script won't work.

00:00:39.000 The script won't work.

00:00:40.000 I mean, that's just...

00:00:42.000 That's the thing.

00:00:44.000 It's very funny.

00:00:46.000 Thanks, man.

00:00:47.000 It's...

00:00:47.000 So ridiculous.

00:00:49.000 It's pretty ridiculous.

00:00:50.000 You know, it was a few years ago that I made the initial one.

00:00:54.000 I was on that crazy tour, that real crazy tour, where it was like, you know, fucking ten shows a week.

00:01:01.000 And I had a break coming up.

00:01:03.000 And so, I've always liked movies, like features, right?

00:01:07.000 But it's a huge undertaking to get a feature made, but I liked short films, because it feels like you're making a movie, you know, like a mini-movie, right?

00:01:16.000 And it feels much more accessible to do.

00:01:19.000 So I had written...

00:01:20.000 All these like short stories, short films.

00:01:23.000 And I called my friend Rami Hashash and I was like, hey, I have a break coming up on tour.

00:01:28.000 Let's shoot a short film because we'd done other things before.

00:01:31.000 And when I sent him, I sent him like 10 different scripts.

00:01:35.000 He was like, what if we did three of these?

00:01:37.000 I was like, how can we do three of them?

00:01:39.000 He's like, we'll shoot like 11 days in a row.

00:01:41.000 We can do three of these stories.

00:01:44.000 And even then I wasn't thinking of like having a television.

00:01:48.000 I was just like, oh, it'll be fun to make these stories, you know?

00:01:53.000 And so after we shot those three, it was clear that we had, like, the bones of a show.

00:02:00.000 Like, what if we did a show that was based on short stories, you know, like short films, basically?

00:02:08.000 And, I don't know, there was another few that were in the original.

00:02:13.000 And when I sent them in to Netflix, they were like, this is fucking insane.

00:02:17.000 But, like, we'll make six episodes of this.

00:02:21.000 And, yeah, they were just like, this is crazy.

00:02:24.000 But it's been the most fun I've ever had, dude.

00:02:27.000 Really?

00:02:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:28.000 Because, you know what, I was thinking about it, like, on my way in here today.

00:02:32.000 I was like, sometimes you have to remind yourself, like, of what your original dream, like, your original dream, you know?

00:02:40.000 And my dream.

00:02:41.000 When I moved to LA, it had nothing to do with stand-up.

00:02:44.000 I never thought of stand-up.

00:02:46.000 Not to say that I don't love doing stand-up today.

00:02:50.000 I'm in love with stand-up.

00:02:52.000 But I moved to LA because I was like, oh, I want to do movies.

00:02:57.000 That was my whole thing.

00:02:58.000 I want to do comedy movies.

00:03:00.000 And I had my own blueprint for how I would do it.

00:03:03.000 I was like, I'll go to the Groundlings.

00:03:06.000 SNL will definitely hire me from there.

00:03:09.000 Like, this is, like, my 21-year-old brain.

00:03:11.000 And then I'll do that for a couple years, and then I'll do movies.

00:03:14.000 Like, I thought that was a logical game plan to end up in movies.

00:03:19.000 And it just, you know, I did do the Groundlings for a while, the school.

00:03:23.000 But when I was supposed to do Writing Lab, which was, like, one of their levels, I had started stand-up, and I was just like, oh, this path is just better for me.

00:03:32.000 Like, I was getting traction.

00:03:34.000 Not, like, my career wasn't moving, but I'm saying, like, I could feel...

00:03:38.000 How much I loved it.

00:03:40.000 And I was starting to get like 50 bucks here and there.

00:03:42.000 And I was like, oh, it's not doing the writing lab thing.

00:03:44.000 It's staying in the stand up path.

00:03:45.000 You know, that's kind of like interesting.

00:03:47.000 But the dream of like of doing something like movies, which is like this feels like to me like they sent me to film school and they were like, make your fucked up movies. 0.62

00:03:57.000 That's what it felt like.

00:03:58.000 That's been like I was you know, I was working like 16 hour days.

00:04:04.000 Doing this thing and I would come home and Christina would be like, I have never seen you so energized after working all goddamn day. 1.00

00:04:11.000 She's like, you come home in the best mood.

00:04:13.000 I was like, yeah, because I'm having fun.

00:04:15.000 Like, I'm having so much fun doing this, you know.

00:04:17.000 Well, that shows you're doing the right thing.

00:04:19.000 I think so.

00:04:20.000 I mean, it was like...

00:04:21.000 That is so uniquely you.

00:04:23.000 It is, right?

00:04:23.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:24.000 That's our fucking text thread.

00:04:26.000 It pretty much is.

00:04:27.000 There are some in here that I can't wait for you to see.

00:04:30.000 Like, there are some in here that I literally cannot wait for you to see.

00:04:34.000 She, this morning, she goes, why is it called Bad Thoughts?

00:04:37.000 It should be called Cock Thoughts.

00:04:40.000 She's like, I swear there's dicks in, like, every other one. 1.00

00:04:43.000 I'm like, yeah.

00:04:44.000 She's like, dicks in violence. 1.00

00:04:45.000 That's your wheelhouse.

00:04:48.000 We need more of this in the world.

00:04:51.000 Yeah.

00:04:51.000 We really do.

00:04:54.000 You know that show, the religious show on Max?

00:05:00.000 Why am I not remembering it?

00:05:02.000 Righteous Gemstones.

00:05:03.000 Oh, yeah.

00:05:04.000 Fucking A. Yeah, man.

00:05:06.000 Dude.

00:05:06.000 Danny McBride.

00:05:07.000 Yeah.

00:05:08.000 He's fucking fantastic.

00:05:09.000 Yeah, he's fantastic.

00:05:10.000 But the whole cast is fantastic.

00:05:11.000 The whole cast is, yeah, yeah.

00:05:12.000 The fucking show is so good.

00:05:14.000 It's so funny.

00:05:15.000 Goggins, Adam Devine, John Goodman.

00:05:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:05:19.000 Everyone's amazing.

00:05:19.000 They're all fantastic.

00:05:20.000 But it's also so ridiculous.

00:05:22.000 Yeah.

00:05:22.000 It's like, thank God.

00:05:24.000 It seems like for a while people were getting scared of making anything offensive.

00:05:29.000 I know.

00:05:30.000 And it also feels like so many studios, networks, platforms, whatever you want to call it.

00:05:36.000 Are, like, so distanced from comedy.

00:05:39.000 Yeah.

00:05:40.000 It's too dangerous.

00:05:42.000 Well, what's weird is you can get away with so much in a drama.

00:05:47.000 In a drama, you could have violence and theft and car accidents.

00:05:52.000 You could fucking kill people and rape people and steal all their money.

00:05:56.000 And that's okay for some reason.

00:05:59.000 But, like, there's something about doing comedy that's offensive or even potentially offensive.

00:06:05.000 Yeah, the other thing is...

00:06:06.000 There's the offensive angle.

00:06:08.000 I also think that they really shit the bed on literally backing truly funny material.

00:06:18.000 Like, so many studio comedies that are released, the critics of people are like, why didn't this work?

00:06:24.000 Because it's not good.

00:06:25.000 It wasn't funny.

00:06:26.000 It's not a funny comedy.

00:06:27.000 But don't you think part of that is because they can't take any real chances?

00:06:30.000 Yeah, I think a studio is always, you know...

00:06:34.000 If you strip everything down, it's somebody that has to have some risk in their job.

00:06:40.000 They're playing with millions of dollars and saying, this will make us money.

00:06:45.000 And so, yeah, they start to get more apprehensive about it.

00:06:49.000 The other thing is that the cost of some of these comedies, when comedies were really...

00:06:56.000 Thriving last, which was, I think, more than 20 years ago.

00:06:59.000 Some of these comedies started to cost like 30 million plus to do a comedy.

00:07:03.000 Yeah, because sometimes you had huge stars and huge set pieces and you'd have these enormous budgets.

00:07:09.000 Now, some of them, like Tropic Thunder, I think did probably pretty well at the box office, right?

00:07:14.000 But a lot of them would not.

00:07:18.000 And so it started to be like, hey, you know what?

00:07:20.000 We can make this.

00:07:21.000 That's why you see the explosion of certain genres, right?

00:07:24.000 Horror really has had a huge uptick the last decade plus.

00:07:29.000 People can produce them for five million, but they don't realize that you can produce great comedies for five million also.

00:07:36.000 You can, but you have to prioritize the material first.

00:07:40.000 It's got to be a great script, and they've got to be willing to back it.

00:07:44.000 I feel like they just haven't taken those shots yet.

00:07:47.000 Well, it's kind of a tremendous opportunity, right?

00:07:51.000 These big studios and these big stars are not doing those kind of films.

00:07:56.000 Exactly.

00:07:57.000 Like the door is wide open.

00:07:58.000 It's open.

00:07:59.000 Because the demand has never gone away.

00:08:01.000 No, people want it.

00:08:02.000 They want to laugh.

00:08:03.000 Always.

00:08:03.000 I'm doing one this summer.

00:08:05.000 Yeah?

00:08:05.000 I'm doing a movie this summer, yeah.

00:08:06.000 What are you doing?

00:08:07.000 It's a crazy fucking comedy.

00:08:09.000 It's insane.

00:08:09.000 It hasn't been announced yet, so you know how they are about that.

00:08:12.000 But it's a wild, R-rated comedy.

00:08:15.000 Well, tell me about it afterwards, then.

00:08:16.000 Okay, yeah.

00:08:17.000 Ha-ha, everybody else.

00:08:18.000 Yeah, no, I would love to talk about it.

00:08:20.000 But I think we're doing kind of like what you're saying, which is we're going to go all in on trying to make this really funny movie.

00:08:29.000 And I mean, I couldn't be more excited about it.

00:08:31.000 And I think it's like, it takes, you realize when you're, you know, you read it and you go, this is it.

00:08:36.000 We kind of do, you know, some punch-ups on the script.

00:08:40.000 And then you just try to surround yourself with amazing comedic talent, you know, like great actors.

00:08:45.000 And just have fun.

00:08:45.000 Yeah.

00:08:46.000 I think that's like...

00:08:47.000 That's awesome.

00:08:48.000 Something that's missing.

00:08:49.000 That's so cool.

00:08:49.000 I didn't even know that that was your original dream.

00:08:52.000 I've fucking known you forever.

00:08:53.000 I know, yeah.

00:08:54.000 I guess I was probably like...

00:08:55.000 I kind of was resigned to that's not going to happen, too.

00:08:59.000 Not like...

00:09:00.000 I mean, the other thing is like, dude, every time I'm out on the road, I get a call.

00:09:05.000 Hey, they want to see you for this part.

00:09:09.000 Or you got an offer to shoot this show or this...

00:09:13.000 Here's the offer.

00:09:14.000 And I'm like, yeah, I'm...

00:09:16.000 I'm on tour.

00:09:17.000 Like, I can't move the fucking United Center, you know?

00:09:21.000 They don't care.

00:09:23.000 They just want that piece.

00:09:24.000 Because they don't get a piece of that United Center.

00:09:26.000 I know.

00:09:27.000 I'm like, I can't move all that shit.

00:09:28.000 But that's also, I realize that after years of that, it's like, well, if I'm always touring, I'm just never going to be able to do something else.

00:09:36.000 Other people's stuff.

00:09:36.000 Yeah.

00:09:38.000 It also kind of, I got excited about, you know, having the summer off and I could do something.

00:09:42.000 And then my tour, the current tour I'm on, will end in December and I'm leaving 26 wide open.

00:09:49.000 Really?

00:09:49.000 Yeah.

00:09:50.000 I mean, film stuff.

00:09:51.000 Yeah, film some stuff and then I'll still do like what I do, which is like go into your club or book some club weekends, which are kind of like...

00:10:01.000 Low, you know, stress kind of things where you go like, hey, I'm just going to go work out.

00:10:05.000 So I'll try to keep the muscle fresh, but I won't book like a tour.

00:10:09.000 Yeah.

00:10:11.000 It's good to take breaks.

00:10:13.000 It is, right?

00:10:13.000 I'll tell you that.

00:10:14.000 I took a big sort of a break.

00:10:16.000 I've just been doing the club.

00:10:17.000 Since I did my live special.

00:10:20.000 Yeah.

00:10:21.000 It's very nice.

00:10:22.000 It's great having no pressure.

00:10:26.000 So, like, I just talk about what I want to talk about, and I write about what I want to write about, instead of going, I gotta put an hour together, because I have a tour in three months.

00:10:34.000 Like, I have to make sure this hour's tight, I have to...

00:10:37.000 You just kind of take your time with it.

00:10:38.000 And I think there's something to be said for taking breaks, with stand-up in particular, because, like, you don't want to just have tools that you use to do a job.

00:10:51.000 Right?

00:10:52.000 You want to actually, like, you have to kind of figure out what am I investing all my time in these subject matters?

00:10:59.000 What's interesting to me?

00:11:02.000 And how much time is that going to take to figure out what the perspective is where I can just say it on stage?

00:11:07.000 Yeah.

00:11:07.000 Because I feel like with a lot of comics, there's a thing happens where you get kind of like locked into a set.

00:11:19.000 And then you abandon that set and there's this mad scramble to come up with a new set.

00:11:23.000 Yes.

00:11:24.000 And a lot of times when you're doing that new set, you're not invested in it.

00:11:29.000 It's just you know you can make it effective.

00:11:31.000 Right.

00:11:31.000 You know what I mean?

00:11:32.000 It kind of feels like filler.

00:11:33.000 Yeah.

00:11:34.000 I know exactly what you mean.

00:11:36.000 And the audience feels that, too.

00:11:37.000 I think they definitely do.

00:11:38.000 Oh, they do.

00:11:39.000 They do.

00:11:39.000 They do, because I feel it as an audience member.

00:11:41.000 I know when someone's doing that, and I go, ugh, this is not, I'm not connecting with this at all.

00:11:46.000 Right.

00:11:46.000 But if it's something that you can tell the person wants to talk about, it resonates.

00:11:51.000 It hits different.

00:11:52.000 Actually interesting.

00:11:53.000 That's the thing.

00:11:54.000 It's like, you know, as I've gotten older, I've thought much more about stand-up.

00:12:01.000 A lot of stand-up is kind of like unspoken.

00:12:05.000 I think a lot of it is hypnosis.

00:12:07.000 Really?

00:12:08.000 Yeah, there's a weird thing going on.

00:12:10.000 And I get it from great comedians.

00:12:14.000 Like, when I was a kid, there was this guy named Frank Santos, the R-rated hypnotist.

00:12:19.000 And he would go on stage and make people do stuff.

00:12:22.000 And like, you're having sex with Madonna.

00:12:24.000 It was really weird.

00:12:25.000 There was a flow to his confidence.

00:12:28.000 There was something about him.

00:12:30.000 And he was also an actual hypnotist, hypnotized people to quit smoking and shit like that.

00:12:35.000 And there was something that he was doing where I was like, what is he doing?

00:12:40.000 What is this connection where it's just so funny?

00:12:43.000 How is he getting into these people's heads?

00:12:46.000 What is hypnosis?

00:12:47.000 And then I see a guy like Attell.

00:12:49.000 On stage when he's killing.

00:12:51.000 And I recognize something.

00:12:53.000 I'm like, he's hypnotizing us.

00:12:55.000 There's something that he's doing, this effortless confidence and connection to what he's talking about, and great material also.

00:13:05.000 So you give him...

00:13:07.000 The reins.

00:13:07.000 You're like, oh, this material's so good.

00:13:09.000 I'll give you the reins.

00:13:09.000 Take my brain.

00:13:11.000 And the rhythm of the cadence, too.

00:13:13.000 Yeah.

00:13:14.000 Because he has a very particular cadence.

00:13:17.000 And, you know, if you hang out with him or work with him, like I did a few times, you start doing the cadence.

00:13:23.000 A lot of people do.

00:13:24.000 Start doing the cadence.

00:13:25.000 And I did that.

00:13:26.000 I did that in, like, 05, 06, when I was, like, he was on his show and his first, like, killer album came out, Skanks for the Memories.

00:13:35.000 Yeah.

00:13:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I feel like I would be talking to you like this, and I'd get on the stage, and I'd be like, how's everybody doing?

00:13:41.000 Like, I would just start doing it, because it's such, like, a hypnotic type of cadence.

00:13:45.000 Yeah, Patrice always says that about, like, having babies. 0.99

00:13:48.000 Like, that's his babies.

00:13:50.000 Yeah.

00:13:50.000 Like, Dave Vitale has a bunch of babies.

00:13:52.000 Yeah.

00:13:52.000 It's like a bunch of people that gave, he gave birth to their...

00:13:55.000 100%, yeah.

00:13:57.000 Yeah, it's super normal.

00:13:59.000 A lot of people have that.

00:14:01.000 But it's interesting how that stuff works, that...

00:14:05.000 There's a thing that's going on, which is why live stand-up is so much better than stand-up on television.

00:14:12.000 Dude, I also had this thing recently, because I'm on tour right now, I realized that, like, man, it's funny how I could be, like, tired.

00:14:23.000 And being tired, I go on stage in a different mindset, and all of a sudden I'm like, wow, that was a way better set.

00:14:32.000 Like, I had the right amount of tired.

00:14:34.000 Not tired where I can't think.

00:14:36.000 But more relaxed.

00:14:37.000 Yeah.

00:14:38.000 And then I get off and my whole tour crew was like, that was fucking an amazing show.

00:14:43.000 And I'm like, yeah, I feel like I was too tired to be self-conscious or something.

00:14:48.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:49.000 Right, right.

00:14:49.000 Some of my self-awareness went away, but the right degree of it went away.

00:14:55.000 Yeah.

00:14:55.000 And then the show just felt better.

00:14:57.000 And then you locked in with them.

00:14:58.000 Yeah.

00:14:59.000 I also like to tell myself sometimes if I remember...

00:15:02.000 That I'm best on stage if I'm going on stage in a silly mindset.

00:15:08.000 If I'm goofing off backstage, fucking around, making fun of somebody that's in my crew or something.

00:15:16.000 I don't know.

00:15:17.000 Dancing in the green room.

00:15:19.000 Just silly.

00:15:21.000 That mindset, walking up on stage, is the best one to go on stage with.

00:15:26.000 That's why you still love working with Joey so much.

00:15:28.000 Yeah.

00:15:30.000 Two things.

00:15:30.000 One, Joey would make me laugh while he was on stage.

00:15:34.000 I'd be waiting to go on stage.

00:15:35.000 Instead of thinking about my material and going over everything with a fine tooth comb, I'd just be laughing.

00:15:40.000 And then I'd go on stage laughing.

00:15:42.000 And that's the thing is that's an unspoken thing that the audience goes like, there's joy coming from this person.

00:15:48.000 Yes.

00:15:49.000 You know, they feel the joy.

00:15:50.000 Yeah, legit.

00:15:50.000 They really do.

00:15:51.000 Because there's nothing grosser than fake laughs.

00:15:54.000 Yeah.

00:15:55.000 When a comedian does the fake laugh thing, it's fucking gross.

00:15:59.000 It's just like when you know they've said that fucking same joke the same way every night with the same laugh.

00:16:05.000 Yeah.

00:16:06.000 Like, blech, you're tricking me. 0.97

00:16:08.000 You're tricking me, yeah.

00:16:08.000 You're tricking me.

00:16:09.000 You're a hooker. 1.00

00:16:10.000 It's so manufactured, you know?

00:16:13.000 It's so calculated.

00:16:15.000 Which is fine.

00:16:16.000 I mean, whatever.

00:16:17.000 Do whatever you want.

00:16:18.000 But it's like there's a thing that comes with that that's like...

00:16:23.000 Okay.

00:16:24.000 I'm never going to be fully locked in, but maybe I can just appreciate this for, you know, like I'm watching a sitcom.

00:16:29.000 Yeah.

00:16:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:30.000 And then there's also nothing as fun as genuine.

00:16:37.000 If something really makes you laugh while you're doing a set, that's the most fun.

00:16:43.000 Oh, for sure.

00:16:43.000 And that becomes contagious.

00:16:45.000 That's why the bits work so good when you first start doing them.

00:16:49.000 And then sometimes they die off because you're getting tired of it and you're not laughing anymore.

00:16:53.000 Yeah.

00:16:54.000 Whereas there's certain things at a subject when you first start talking about it, you're like, what the f- What the fuck is going on?

00:17:01.000 How is this a real thing?

00:17:02.000 It's so funny because we were just talking about how there's certain bits where it kills, like it kills, right?

00:17:12.000 And then over the next few months, it dies.

00:17:16.000 It dies slowly.

00:17:17.000 And you're trying to do the math.

00:17:19.000 You're like, wait, am I saying it different?

00:17:21.000 Did you just go listen?

00:17:23.000 Did I miss a beat or something?

00:17:25.000 Did I miss some connective tissue?

00:17:27.000 What's going on?

00:17:28.000 And by the end you're like, no, it's fully dead.

00:17:30.000 It has died.

00:17:31.000 I don't know what happened.

00:17:32.000 You just gotta be able to accept that they're dead.

00:17:34.000 Yeah.

00:17:34.000 That's such a funny thing, though, that happens.

00:17:37.000 I have a bunch of bits I call orphans.

00:17:39.000 We have a file of orphans.

00:17:41.000 They're all bits that just never made it onto a special.

00:17:43.000 Someone comes up to me, like, every now and then one of my friends would come up to me, like, do you do that fucking, is that on anything? 0.82

00:17:49.000 I was like, that one's just an orphan.

00:17:51.000 It's an orphan.

00:17:51.000 It's just floating around.

00:17:52.000 It doesn't fit with anything.

00:17:53.000 It's all so fucked up.

00:17:55.000 And sometimes you, like, you ever try to bring those back?

00:17:57.000 I brought some back that didn't make it.

00:18:00.000 And sometimes they get new life.

00:18:02.000 Yeah.

00:18:03.000 And then sometimes you're like, oh, there's a reason why I didn't carry this one.

00:18:06.000 You know when they pop up is Bottom of the Barrel.

00:18:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:10.000 It's the best show.

00:18:11.000 The Bottom of the Barrel, every now and then I'll pull something out.

00:18:14.000 Actually, I have a fucking ancient bit on this.

00:18:18.000 Yeah.

00:18:18.000 If I can kind of remember it.

00:18:20.000 That's the other thing is your memory starts to, on the old stuff.

00:18:24.000 My memory's gone on my last special.

00:18:25.000 It's gone.

00:18:26.000 That's the best thing that can happen.

00:18:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:28.000 It's gone.

00:18:29.000 I get called out to, you know, do this bit.

00:18:32.000 And I go, I honestly don't remember how it goes.

00:18:34.000 Like, I'll start it, and then I'll forget.

00:18:36.000 Right.

00:18:36.000 You want to do it?

00:18:37.000 Yeah.

00:18:38.000 And then they'll know it.

00:18:39.000 They'll know it better than you.

00:18:40.000 And you're like, oh, yeah.

00:18:41.000 Yeah, sometimes that's good.

00:18:42.000 That would be funny if they did it.

00:18:43.000 They acted it out.

00:18:44.000 It's pretty fun.

00:18:45.000 Yeah, because there's certain bits.

00:18:47.000 Like, they just leave your mind.

00:18:48.000 It's like, I'm done with this.

00:18:50.000 But did you like...

00:18:52.000 Any of the acting stuff?

00:18:53.000 Because I know you don't have any interest in doing it anymore, but did you enjoy it?

00:18:56.000 Yeah.

00:18:57.000 Yeah, news radio was really fun.

00:18:59.000 That was fun.

00:18:59.000 Yeah, it was fun.

00:19:00.000 I didn't mind doing it.

00:19:02.000 It's just I didn't like it as much, and I didn't like the time commitment that these...

00:19:08.000 I mean, I don't sound like I'm complaining, oh, it's acting so hard, but it's like you're working these long-ass days.

00:19:14.000 Yeah.

00:19:15.000 And as a person who likes to do a lot of different things, that becomes a problem.

00:19:19.000 And you were on a multicam.

00:19:20.000 Exactly.

00:19:21.000 Imagine if you were on a single cam.

00:19:22.000 Way harder.

00:19:23.000 That would have been...

00:19:24.000 Single cams are crazy.

00:19:25.000 I had friends that are on single cams.

00:19:27.000 I was like, oh my God, how are you doing this?

00:19:28.000 They were working six days a week and they would work in like 12, 15 hours a day.

00:19:32.000 Yeah.

00:19:33.000 Like, this is so crazy.

00:19:34.000 Like, I like to do a bunch of stuff, man.

00:19:36.000 I like to do jujitsu.

00:19:38.000 I like to play pool.

00:19:39.000 Are you rolling again?

00:19:40.000 No.

00:19:41.000 No.

00:19:41.000 I'm still injured.

00:19:42.000 Yeah.

00:19:42.000 I'm still dealing with some small...

00:19:45.000 It's a lot better now.

00:19:47.000 Lower back issue.

00:19:48.000 And a little bit of a knee-ish, but that's pretty good, too.

00:19:51.000 Did I tell you how my little guy quit jujitsu?

00:19:53.000 Why?

00:19:54.000 Why'd he quit?

00:19:55.000 It's the funniest thing.

00:19:56.000 They both go.

00:19:57.000 Both my boys go.

00:19:58.000 And we take them in and...

00:20:01.000 My youngest is like, this is my last one.

00:20:02.000 He's six.

00:20:03.000 And I go, is your last one?

00:20:04.000 He goes, dude, my schedule is crazy.

00:20:07.000 I go, what?

00:20:10.000 He's sick of his dad.

00:20:11.000 Yeah, he's talking like me.

00:20:13.000 And he goes, I have a full plate.

00:20:15.000 And I go, you have a full plate.

00:20:17.000 He goes, I go, kindergarten.

00:20:18.000 I got Spanish.

00:20:19.000 I do drums.

00:20:20.000 I don't have time for this.

00:20:21.000 That's hilarious.

00:20:22.000 And then he told the instructor.

00:20:23.000 He told the guy in charge.

00:20:25.000 I was like, tell him.

00:20:26.000 He goes, I won't be coming back.

00:20:28.000 I have a very full schedule.

00:20:29.000 And so that guy kind of like smiled and he goes, well, what do you have?

00:20:34.000 He goes, I told you.

00:20:35.000 Kindergarten, drums, Spanish.

00:20:37.000 I don't have time to do everything.

00:20:39.000 He's six!

00:20:40.000 He's six.

00:20:41.000 And I go, yeah.

00:20:42.000 Is this the one who calls you Tom?

00:20:44.000 Well, they both did for a while.

00:20:46.000 But yeah.

00:20:48.000 So he goes, but the instructor was great.

00:20:52.000 He goes, okay, okay.

00:20:53.000 He goes, well, in life, you have to be strong, right?

00:20:57.000 And my kid goes, yeah.

00:20:58.000 He goes, it's not an option.

00:21:00.000 And he goes, yeah.

00:21:01.000 He goes, so if you have to be strong, then you have to do this.

00:21:07.000 And my kid's like, yeah.

00:21:08.000 He goes, the instructor goes, so I'll see you Thursday.

00:21:11.000 And he sticks out his fist.

00:21:12.000 And my kid goes, I told you, I'm too busy.

00:21:18.000 And so he hasn't gone.

00:21:21.000 But this is the thing about kids is like he hasn't gone now in like a month.

00:21:25.000 And then now he's like, hey, I want to go back to jiu-jitsu.

00:21:27.000 I'm like, of course.

00:21:29.000 Of course.

00:21:30.000 And also his older brother is doing very well.

00:21:34.000 Ah, that's a problem.

00:21:35.000 He's like this motherfucker.

00:21:36.000 He got a new belt, you know, and my older brother's like fucking him up and talking mad shit all day.

00:21:44.000 Takes his shirt off every day and he goes, I'm going to be so fucking jacked.

00:21:50.000 So he's like, shit, I got to get back in there.

00:21:53.000 That's hilarious.

00:21:54.000 Yeah.

00:21:55.000 Yeah, you gotta hedge your time.

00:21:57.000 Like, you have to figure out, like, what do you want to do?

00:22:00.000 You are the most insane in my book for a person who does the most different things.

00:22:06.000 Because you are highly proficient at archery, jiu-jitsu, shoot and pull, fitness, this shit, stand-up.

00:22:16.000 Like, that's a lot of different things to be, like, very good at.

00:22:20.000 Well, I have to pick my spots.

00:22:22.000 Yeah.

00:22:22.000 You know, because I'm an obsessive person.

00:22:25.000 Right.

00:22:25.000 So, like, I have to, like, that's why I don't fuck with golf.

00:22:27.000 That's why I don't fuck with video games.

00:22:29.000 Fucking golf will get you, dude.

00:22:30.000 Video games will get me.

00:22:31.000 I stayed away from video games for 20 years, about.

00:22:35.000 About 20 years.

00:22:36.000 And we got a console.

00:22:37.000 Uh-oh.

00:22:38.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:22:39.000 I actually found that I am busy enough.

00:22:42.000 Where in my brain I can go, yeah, I can't.

00:22:45.000 I can do 20 minutes on certain days and get a little dopamine kick from it and have fun.

00:22:51.000 But most of the time I walk by and I go, I want to play.

00:22:54.000 I got out of time to play.

00:22:55.000 My problem is if I put that 20 minutes in, I'll be up until 5 in the morning.

00:23:00.000 I don't need sleep.

00:23:01.000 I just won't work out tomorrow.

00:23:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:04.000 I'll just show up half in the bag.

00:23:06.000 I'll eat a lot of creatine so my brain works.

00:23:09.000 Do you know how to do that?

00:23:10.000 Yeah, I started doing it every day.

00:23:11.000 But that's a really big one for sleep deprivation.

00:23:14.000 Really?

00:23:15.000 Yeah, there was a sort of study where they showed that it completely diminishes the effects of sleep deprivation.

00:23:21.000 I think it's 20 grams.

00:23:23.000 I think 20 grams of creatine, something crazy like that.

00:23:25.000 I've been doing that.

00:23:26.000 I have a whole new sleep protocol I'm doing.

00:23:28.000 Oh, a sleep protocol.

00:23:30.000 Like, I'm saying a bunch of peptides and shit, yeah.

00:23:32.000 Oh, I just ordered an Oura Ring to track my sleep.

00:23:34.000 That's good.

00:23:35.000 Do you have to try that pineal peptide?

00:23:37.000 No, I haven't.

00:23:38.000 I heard about it.

00:23:39.000 You were telling me it really ramped up your REM sleep.

00:23:41.000 Fucking awesome.

00:23:42.000 Yeah?

00:23:43.000 Yeah.

00:23:43.000 Nice.

00:23:44.000 Yeah.

00:23:44.000 Anything for more sleep I'm into, man.

00:23:46.000 I'll tell you what really affects it.

00:23:47.000 Quality sleep.

00:23:48.000 No drinking.

00:23:49.000 That really affected my sleep a lot.

00:23:50.000 Really?

00:23:51.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:52.000 Were you drinking a lot?

00:23:53.000 Not a lot.

00:23:54.000 Not like Burt levels.

00:23:57.000 But last time I was sober, I was with him.

00:24:01.000 It was a great table.

00:24:03.000 It was Taylor Sheridan and his wife, my wife was there, Bert and his wife, David Goggins and his wife, and then a bunch of my professional pool player friends.

00:24:12.000 That's a fun table.

00:24:13.000 Oh, it was fucking phenomenal.

00:24:15.000 We had so much fun.

00:24:16.000 We all had dinner together after the UFC fight, and Burt is just throwing back martinis.

00:24:23.000 And I was like, oh, I definitely made the right choice.

00:24:26.000 I definitely made the right choice.

00:24:27.000 I'm watching him.

00:24:28.000 He's slowly turning into a human grape in front of my eyes.

00:24:34.000 Fucking red-edged face.

00:24:36.000 He was hilarious.

00:24:37.000 He was.

00:24:37.000 I'll tell you that.

00:24:38.000 At the table, we were having a lot of laughs.

00:24:41.000 Yeah.

00:24:41.000 But I was like...

00:24:42.000 He can knock him down, dude.

00:24:43.000 He can really knock him down.

00:24:44.000 Bro, he found out we were leaving, so he ordered two more to down on the way out the door.

00:24:48.000 He just downed two martinis.

00:24:50.000 I'll have two more! 0.88

00:24:51.000 Like, just downed these martinis on the way out the door.

00:24:54.000 I'm like, this is fucking preposterous.

00:24:56.000 It's preposterous.

00:24:56.000 And then I talked to him, and he goes, I got all my blood work done.

00:24:59.000 Perfect!

00:25:00.000 Everything's perfect.

00:25:01.000 I know.

00:25:02.000 He's like, how's that possible?

00:25:03.000 He always says that.

00:25:04.000 And I saw somebody comment the other day on our podcast.

00:25:07.000 They go, the documentary about Bert's doctor who says blood work is perfect is going to be unbelievable.

00:25:17.000 It's a complete charlotte.

00:25:19.000 It's got to be, dude.

00:25:20.000 It's got to be.

00:25:21.000 Dirty lab coat with a fucking mouse in his pocket.

00:25:24.000 Some crazy guy.

00:25:26.000 It's going to be a complete lunatic who's like, you're great.

00:25:29.000 Oh my god, that's so funny.

00:25:32.000 That's so funny.

00:25:32.000 Yeah, we had dinner and he was like, wine, wine, anybody want wine?

00:25:36.000 And I was like, I'm good.

00:25:37.000 And he's like, we'll do a bottle of wine for the tea.

00:25:39.000 And nobody had wine, so he just dumps the bottle into his glass.

00:25:45.000 And he can drink it in like five minutes.

00:25:47.000 It's crazy.

00:25:48.000 It's bizarre.

00:25:49.000 Well, it's obvious, like, it's gotta be an adaptive thing, right?

00:25:54.000 Like running is.

00:25:55.000 Yeah.

00:25:56.000 If you run never, you can't run a marathon.

00:26:00.000 Right.

00:26:00.000 But if you run a lot, you can run a marathon.

00:26:02.000 Sure.

00:26:03.000 You get used to it.

00:26:04.000 Your body gets accustomed to putting in the miles five before work every day.

00:26:07.000 You know we always talk about that freak show shit he has in him?

00:26:10.000 Like he's freaky.

00:26:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:11.000 He's a freak.

00:26:11.000 We did the 5K in Tampa.

00:26:15.000 We had like 8,000 people come out this year.

00:26:18.000 It's crazy.

00:26:18.000 That's amazing.

00:26:19.000 And so many people that are like, you know, making...

00:26:24.000 Look at that.

00:26:25.000 Yeah, making leaps.

00:26:26.000 By the way, how good does Jelly Roll look?

00:26:28.000 Dude, do you know what he's down?

00:26:29.000 200 pounds.

00:26:30.000 Yeah, and from last year, 130.

00:26:32.000 That's amazing.

00:26:33.000 And he's like, I want to lose another 100.

00:26:34.000 That's insane.

00:26:35.000 So what's he at now?

00:26:36.000 He's at 340.

00:26:38.000 So he wants to get down to 240.

00:26:40.000 Wow.

00:26:40.000 He wants to get to 240.

00:26:41.000 He's a big guy.

00:26:42.000 For him, 240 is probably right.

00:26:44.000 Yeah, it's probably...

00:26:45.000 And by the way, we were talking before he got there.

00:26:48.000 The 5K had, it was in Raymond James Stadium where the Bucks play.

00:26:53.000 So I was like, well, how are we mapping out 3.1?

00:26:56.000 Well, the only way to do that in a venue of this size is you had to, like, use every, you know, square inch of the place.

00:27:04.000 So they had us go up the ramp.

00:27:07.000 Like, if you're going to go up to the top, there's a ramp that goes up.

00:27:11.000 It's nine stories up of all incline.

00:27:15.000 And then you go across, then you go down, then you go up again.

00:27:19.000 Oh, a lot of incline.

00:27:20.000 Like half a mile plus of incline, right?

00:27:22.000 So before Jelly gets here, I'm like, I don't know if he can do this, man.

00:27:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:26.000 Like, he's a big guy still.

00:27:28.000 Knees, cardio, all this shit.

00:27:29.000 Dude, he fucking smashed it.

00:27:31.000 That's incredible.

00:27:32.000 He did great.

00:27:33.000 Did he hire a trainer?

00:27:34.000 What is he doing?

00:27:36.000 He got rid of his phone.

00:27:37.000 I know.

00:27:38.000 He has, like, a flip phone that, like, doesn't even, like, that you can, I don't even know if you can get texts on it, so.

00:27:44.000 Yeah, he just chucked his phone out.

00:27:46.000 Yeah.

00:27:46.000 Apparently, like, all the years of drinking, he just gave his phone number out to so many people.

00:27:51.000 He was like, fuck it.

00:27:51.000 And he decided, instead of getting a new number.

00:27:53.000 Yeah.

00:27:54.000 Which is what you should do.

00:27:55.000 Yeah.

00:27:55.000 He's like, I'm just, no phone, fuck it.

00:27:57.000 That's fucking awesome, by the way.

00:27:58.000 It's crazy.

00:27:59.000 I love, like, I used to panic when I left my phone behind.

00:28:01.000 Now when I forget my phone, I'm like, oh, it's gonna be a great day.

00:28:04.000 Like, I left my phone, I'll get it later.

00:28:06.000 Like, I feel fine.

00:28:08.000 It's a great feeling.

00:28:09.000 Yeah.

00:28:09.000 Yeah, we're all prisoners.

00:28:10.000 We are totally prisoners.

00:28:12.000 We're prisoners and it's going to get worse.

00:28:14.000 Oh, this is the thing I wanted to tell you.

00:28:16.000 So, some of the Bucks players came out.

00:28:19.000 The offensive linemen.

00:28:20.000 These are absolute beasts.

00:28:24.000 6 '5", 6 '6", 330.

00:28:27.000 Like, just fucking giants.

00:28:29.000 They're gorillas. 0.84

00:28:30.000 And we're doing all this silly competition stuff.

00:28:33.000 Like, we hit the golf simulator.

00:28:36.000 Throw a fucking spear into like a bale of hay.

00:28:40.000 And then they're like, oh, we need one more thing.

00:28:42.000 So we have a beer stein holding contest.

00:28:47.000 Oh, Bert won that.

00:28:48.000 Yeah, he beat fucking all pro.

00:28:51.000 That's like...

00:28:53.000 Come on, man.

00:28:53.000 But look at these fucking guys.

00:28:54.000 Doesn't that make sense?

00:28:55.000 It does make sense, but you still go like...

00:28:57.000 Those skinny guys can throw a baseball a lot faster than these dudes.

00:29:00.000 It's just crazy to me, though.

00:29:02.000 Not to me.

00:29:03.000 The upper bodies on these dudes, I'm like, no.

00:29:06.000 These guys...

00:29:07.000 Yeah, he's gonna win.

00:29:08.000 He's used to holding beers.

00:29:09.000 Yeah.

00:29:10.000 He's used to holding drinks.

00:29:11.000 I couldn't do it.

00:29:12.000 I tapped out.

00:29:13.000 Like, my arm just gave out.

00:29:15.000 And then...

00:29:16.000 Look at him.

00:29:16.000 He's still smiling.

00:29:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:18.000 He had nothing wrong.

00:29:19.000 That's insane.

00:29:20.000 Yeah.

00:29:21.000 And then...

00:29:22.000 Yeah, they slowly fell.

00:29:24.000 I bet if he did his left arm, it would fall off.

00:29:27.000 I bet he literally wouldn't be able to...

00:29:28.000 He's been holding up drinks so long.

00:29:30.000 Also, like, toasting crowds for so long.

00:29:33.000 Look at this.

00:29:34.000 He beat everybody.

00:29:35.000 He should hold out and just humiliate them after he's done.

00:29:38.000 Just keep going.

00:29:38.000 Oh, he held it up after he was done.

00:29:40.000 That big guy looks like he's ready to break.

00:29:43.000 He gave up.

00:29:44.000 Look at Bert.

00:29:45.000 Look at this.

00:29:49.000 Just insane.

00:29:52.000 He's got incredible genetics.

00:29:54.000 If he wanted to be an athlete, he'd be an incredible athlete.

00:29:57.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:29:57.000 If he was super dedicated to it, yeah.

00:29:59.000 Yeah, he's just trapped in booze.

00:30:02.000 But it's also made him very rich, so I don't know what to say.

00:30:07.000 Working out.

00:30:08.000 I love him.

00:30:09.000 I don't want him to change, but I do.

00:30:10.000 I mean, I want him to be healthy.

00:30:12.000 But when we first started doing Sober October, it was essentially just because we were worried Bert was going to die.

00:30:17.000 Yeah.

00:30:17.000 You know?

00:30:18.000 Yeah.

00:30:19.000 Well, he's still here.

00:30:20.000 I mean, the first one was the weight loss thing.

00:30:22.000 Blood works perfect. 0.99

00:30:23.000 Yeah.

00:30:23.000 Yeah, it's nuts.

00:30:24.000 What type of resistance is that?

00:30:26.000 I don't know.

00:30:27.000 I think it's like 100 and something.

00:30:28.000 100 and something?

00:30:29.000 Yeah.

00:30:30.000 Ooh.

00:30:31.000 Yeah.

00:30:32.000 Yeah.

00:30:33.000 Yeah, I'm obsessed with, you know, that squeeze machine?

00:30:35.000 Yeah.

00:30:36.000 You know that thing?

00:30:36.000 Oh, yeah, that measures your grip?

00:30:38.000 I got 161, and I want to get 190.

00:30:41.000 Oh, so you're training for it.

00:30:42.000 Yeah.

00:30:43.000 You have one here?

00:30:44.000 No.

00:30:45.000 I think we do.

00:30:45.000 Yeah, we do out there.

00:30:46.000 Yeah, out in the hallway.

00:30:47.000 But we do at the club.

00:30:49.000 And so when the club, when I first did it, I think I got 147.

00:30:53.000 I was like, well, this is bullshit.

00:30:55.000 And then I got up to 161 without these things.

00:31:00.000 Just from working out a lot.

00:31:02.000 I bet David has a crazy grip strength.

00:31:06.000 Which David?

00:31:07.000 Lucas.

00:31:07.000 Oh yeah, he's a big guy.

00:31:08.000 Big hands.

00:31:09.000 Big hands.

00:31:10.000 Jamar has one.

00:31:11.000 Jamar Neighbors, I think he got 167.

00:31:14.000 Damn.

00:31:15.000 Jamar's strong.

00:31:16.000 That's crazy.

00:31:17.000 You've seen him with his shirt off, right?

00:31:19.000 Yeah, he's jacked.

00:31:19.000 Jacked.

00:31:20.000 But, you know, we've had some big dudes come in there and do it. 0.83

00:31:27.000 I don't know who's got the record on that thing.

00:31:30.000 Records got to be...

00:31:31.000 The UFC had a bunch of guys do it.

00:31:33.000 I forget who had the highest.

00:31:36.000 But I think Alex Pereira was like 180.

00:31:41.000 He was up in the...

00:31:42.000 He's a big fuck.

00:31:43.000 I didn't realize how big he...

00:31:44.000 I didn't realize...

00:31:45.000 Because, you know, TV is so deceptive.

00:31:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:31:47.000 And then I saw somebody I know standing next to him, and I was like, holy shit.

00:31:50.000 Wiz Oliveira, 97?

00:31:52.000 Oh, that's crazy.

00:31:53.000 He didn't even try.

00:31:55.000 Michael Chandler, 113.

00:31:58.000 What?

00:31:59.000 No, he's doing his right hand.

00:32:01.000 Are you doing your opposite hand?

00:32:02.000 Because Paul Craig, I think, is a lefty.

00:32:04.000 126.

00:32:05.000 Bo Nickel.

00:32:06.000 He's a lefty, too.

00:32:07.000 So they're doing their opposite hand?

00:32:08.000 They're doing the opposite hand.

00:32:10.000 What's his?

00:32:12.000 153.

00:32:14.000 Weidman's strong as fuck.

00:32:15.000 Let me see what he's got.

00:32:18.000 153.

00:32:20.000 Stipe's huge.

00:32:21.000 What's he got?

00:32:22.000 He's a left-hander, too, yeah.

00:32:24.000 Fireman strength.

00:32:25.000 He's a big fucking dude, though.

00:32:28.000 131.

00:32:29.000 Wow, that's crazy.

00:32:32.000 Other hand.

00:32:33.000 Other hand.

00:32:35.000 104.

00:32:36.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:32:38.000 Second attempt.

00:32:41.000 155.

00:32:42.000 All right, so, great.

00:32:43.000 I'm stronger than all those bitches. 1.00

00:32:44.000 There you go.

00:32:45.000 Fuck yeah.

00:32:45.000 But I'm trying to get to 190.

00:32:47.000 190's crazy.

00:32:49.000 I think this is like one...

00:32:51.000 15 or something like that some of those Those arm wrestling guys.

00:32:58.000 Oh, yeah, they have freaky forearms.

00:33:01.000 Oh, yeah, I was watching this one guy who's a climber Who's a professional climber?

00:33:06.000 Oh and yeah, he has this basement gym.

00:33:09.000 I might have saved the video But I think if you find it on YouTube, it's like, I've never seen strength like this.

00:33:16.000 This guy has calves growing off of his forearm bone.

00:33:21.000 It's like a calf.

00:33:22.000 And he's doing one-finger chin-ups.

00:33:25.000 I don't understand it.

00:33:26.000 With, like, a centimeter of hold.

00:33:29.000 Like, it's the tiniest little lip that his finger's resting on, and he's pulling his whole body up.

00:33:36.000 I mean, he's doing the same thing.

00:33:38.000 Yeah, but look at that.

00:33:39.000 That's crazy.

00:33:40.000 It's not this guy.

00:33:41.000 The other guy is like super jacked.

00:33:43.000 His forearms are at least.

00:33:45.000 He's not like bodybuilder size, but the musculature is crazy.

00:33:49.000 I saw one of those guys who I guess is in the rock climbing, mountain climbing world.

00:33:55.000 He's considered one of the best.

00:33:57.000 Yeah, that's the guy.

00:33:57.000 That's the guy.

00:33:58.000 So this guy does a bunch of freaky shit.

00:34:01.000 What does this do today?

00:34:03.000 Yeah, look at the fucking...

00:34:05.000 Look at that one-arm thing.

00:34:07.000 See that?

00:34:07.000 The size of the grip?

00:34:09.000 Yeah.

00:34:09.000 Look how fat that grip is.

00:34:11.000 Like, doing a one-arm chin-up is crazy.

00:34:13.000 Look at his back, dude.

00:34:14.000 It's crazy.

00:34:15.000 But doing a one-arm chin-up...

00:34:16.000 Look at the size of his fucking forearms.

00:34:17.000 Yeah.

00:34:18.000 Doing a one-arm chin-up is crazy, but a one-arm chin-up with a fat grip like that is off the charts nuts.

00:34:24.000 Like, his strength must be insane.

00:34:26.000 But you look at him, like, right there, like his neck and everything, he doesn't look like that strong of a guy.

00:34:31.000 Right.

00:34:32.000 It's very deceptive because with climbers, you don't need traps.

00:34:38.000 You can't have excess stuff.

00:34:41.000 Look at his forearms.

00:34:43.000 Look at his grips.

00:34:44.000 The size of his fucking forearms when he's doing that is crazy.

00:34:49.000 See if you can isolate when he was doing that with his forearms.

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00:36:37.000 Is he the one who did a workout with Larry Wheels?

00:36:41.000 Did you ever see that?

00:36:42.000 No, that's a different guy.

00:36:43.000 But yeah, I've seen that too.

00:36:44.000 You've seen that?

00:36:45.000 Yeah, I think I might be that guy.

00:36:47.000 Might be.

00:36:48.000 Yeah, I've seen him on YouTube.

00:36:49.000 Is it?

00:36:49.000 Yeah.

00:36:50.000 And he's blown away.

00:36:53.000 By this guy.

00:36:54.000 This guy.

00:36:55.000 It's like mountain climbing, if you think about it, just the amount of reps that you're picking your body weight up and holding.

00:37:01.000 Like gymnasts.

00:37:02.000 Like, who's more jacked than the guys who do the rings?

00:37:04.000 No.

00:37:05.000 They're super jacked.

00:37:06.000 Look at his forearms.

00:37:07.000 Look at that.

00:37:07.000 Back up a little second and just freeze it.

00:37:10.000 Look at it.

00:37:11.000 Freeze it right there.

00:37:12.000 Look at that left.

00:37:14.000 Fucking forearm.

00:37:14.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:37:15.000 That's nuts, man.

00:37:16.000 There's a split in the muscle.

00:37:18.000 That's a calf.

00:37:19.000 Yeah, it's a calf.

00:37:20.000 That's a calf.

00:37:20.000 That's like a strong calf.

00:37:22.000 And this is like a big endorsement for calisthenics, basically, right?

00:37:26.000 Calisthenics are huge.

00:37:27.000 Yeah.

00:37:28.000 They're huge.

00:37:28.000 It's a big part of my workout.

00:37:30.000 Really?

00:37:30.000 Oh, yeah.

00:37:31.000 I do a lot of calisthenics.

00:37:34.000 I still do the 100 push-ups every day and the 100 bodyweight squats.

00:37:37.000 But I do chin-ups, dips, and L pull-ups.

00:37:42.000 With a close grip, with the legs extended.

00:37:45.000 I do all those.

00:37:46.000 They're huge.

00:37:48.000 You want to be able to...

00:37:49.000 I do hang from a bar like this where I swing my toes up and I touch the bar.

00:37:55.000 So it really works your core, too.

00:37:58.000 Being able to manipulate your own body weight is crucial.

00:38:02.000 Yeah, because those gymnasts are like...

00:38:04.000 Some of them are like, I've never touched weights.

00:38:06.000 I'm just doing this shit all day.

00:38:07.000 Which is nuts.

00:38:09.000 But it's not time efficient.

00:38:11.000 Yeah.

00:38:12.000 Because they're doing that.

00:38:13.000 Their muscles are like that because they're doing eight-hour sessions.

00:38:16.000 But you can get a lot done with your body with just dips and chin-ups.

00:38:21.000 A lot.

00:38:22.000 Dips are incredible.

00:38:23.000 Yeah.

00:38:23.000 So good.

00:38:24.000 I think when Arnold would talk about chest, he was like, that was like the...

00:38:32.000 The cherry on top for the workouts was doing.

00:38:34.000 He's like, we always would do dips.

00:38:36.000 And you can do weighted dips, too.

00:38:39.000 Dips are so easy to do with weight.

00:38:41.000 Throw a chain over your neck or put a weight vest on or something like that.

00:38:45.000 Yeah.

00:38:45.000 That's another thing I found.

00:38:46.000 Like, just a 25-pound weight vest where it doesn't feel like anything when you're wearing it.

00:38:50.000 But when you do stuff with it on, like chin-ups and pull-ups, like, holy fuck.

00:38:54.000 Yeah.

00:38:54.000 It's a giant difference.

00:38:55.000 So different.

00:38:56.000 And then when you take that thing off, you're like, oh, man.

00:38:58.000 Right.

00:38:58.000 So imagine being 25 pounds too heavy.

00:39:01.000 Yeah.

00:39:02.000 And then imagine being Jelly Roll.

00:39:03.000 So Jelly Roll's walking around 200 pounds too heavy before, at least.

00:39:09.000 So it's actually 300 pounds, right?

00:39:10.000 Because he wants to lose another 100.

00:39:12.000 Yeah.

00:39:12.000 So imagine just carrying around everywhere you go.

00:39:15.000 You got a squat rack, like a real...

00:39:19.000 Bar, stuffed with plates, and you're just carrying that through life.

00:39:24.000 That's what they're doing.

00:39:25.000 That's why those guys' fucking lower bodies are always crazy when they lose weight.

00:39:29.000 Oh, Ralphie May used to have the biggest calves in the world. 0.85

00:39:32.000 His legs were like...

00:39:34.000 Tree trunks.

00:39:34.000 Oh my god, yeah.

00:39:36.000 Just carrying around that body all day.

00:39:38.000 That's nuts.

00:39:39.000 If they trim down enough, the quads are still humongous.

00:39:43.000 Yeah, if Burt lost weight, he would get weaker.

00:39:45.000 But you do get weaker when you lose weight.

00:39:48.000 That's a fact.

00:39:49.000 Yeah, that's always a mass moves mass.

00:39:51.000 It's also like to lose weight, to lose body fat, your body has to think something's wrong.

00:39:57.000 It's very difficult to maintain muscle mass while you're losing fat.

00:40:04.000 It's hard.

00:40:05.000 You've got to be real careful with everything.

00:40:07.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:40:08.000 And you've got to try not to lose too much weight too quick.

00:40:11.000 Because a lot of people with losing weight, like, a lot of people become food addicts, and then addicts act like addicts, and you start thinking, I've got to lose it all right now!

00:40:20.000 And so you starve yourself, and you just work out eight hours a day, and, well, you're going to lose all your muscle, too.

00:40:26.000 Everything.

00:40:26.000 You're going to lose everything, and you're probably going to get injured, because your body's going to, like...

00:40:30.000 Hey, fucking idiot.

00:40:32.000 Give you that tendonitis.

00:40:34.000 How about a little back bulge?

00:40:37.000 How about a fucking sore knee?

00:40:39.000 How about plantar fasciitis?

00:40:41.000 Slow the fuck down. 1.00

00:40:42.000 Your body tries to figure out a way to slow you down.

00:40:45.000 Yeah.

00:40:46.000 Slow and steady is the way, for sure.

00:40:49.000 Yeah, it just sucks.

00:40:51.000 You know, you want to get, if you've realized you fucked up, it would be nice if you could just get better quick. 0.81

00:40:56.000 Like, oh, I know.

00:40:57.000 I just, I got a month before summer and I'm 50 pounds overweight.

00:41:00.000 Fuck!

00:41:00.000 Fuck.

00:41:01.000 I want to lose another 10, 15 right now.

00:41:03.000 What do you want to do to do it?

00:41:05.000 Just dial in.

00:41:07.000 You know, it's really about consistency, I feel like, with me, right?

00:41:10.000 Like, my window for when I go, oh shit, is just so much smaller than it used to be.

00:41:15.000 So right now I'm like, oh.

00:41:17.000 I've slid a little bit.

00:41:18.000 I've been on tour.

00:41:19.000 I've been doing all this shit.

00:41:20.000 I just have to...

00:41:21.000 Tour, it's hard, right?

00:41:22.000 It's hard.

00:41:22.000 You feel like I'm working, fuck it.

00:41:24.000 Cheeseburger.

00:41:25.000 Let's eat.

00:41:26.000 Let's eat pizza.

00:41:27.000 Let's go.

00:41:27.000 Sometimes it's that.

00:41:28.000 Sometimes it's also just that, like, you know, I get into this rhythm of...

00:41:32.000 The way I'm eating and training at home, which is pretty good.

00:41:35.000 Yeah.

00:41:36.000 And then you get out there and it's like, fuck, we got on three planes and you're just tired.

00:41:40.000 You just don't do it.

00:41:41.000 Yep.

00:41:41.000 And then, yeah, you just order whatever to eat.

00:41:43.000 So you just feel it slowly come apart.

00:41:45.000 But I feel like I'm also at a place where I know if I dial in my diet and make sure I stay on top of the training, I can shed this 10 pretty...

00:41:58.000 Yeah, you've done it before.

00:41:59.000 Yeah.

00:42:00.000 You did it pretty well, you know?

00:42:02.000 You figured it out.

00:42:03.000 And then you also have muscle memory now.

00:42:06.000 I think it's hard when you're traveling because, you know, you're just...

00:42:10.000 Anytime you're traveling, your energy level goes down.

00:42:14.000 Yeah.

00:42:15.000 It's like you got to figure out things to mitigate that energy level going down.

00:42:18.000 And then counter-intuitively, the best way to do that is to work out.

00:42:21.000 Yeah, I know.

00:42:22.000 Which doesn't seem like it makes any sense because you're tired.

00:42:25.000 I don't want to work out.

00:42:25.000 A lot of times we do the land and lift.

00:42:28.000 Got to do that.

00:42:28.000 Like land and go.

00:42:30.000 Yep, land and go.

00:42:31.000 Land and go.

00:42:31.000 It is crazy how I do a lot of three-day, three-four-day weekends, you know, for tour.

00:42:37.000 Man, a lot of times on that.

00:42:39.000 Third or fourth day, you're in your third or fourth city, and you're like, fuck, I am wrecked today.

00:42:44.000 Just like another plane, another time zone.

00:42:46.000 You taking a lot of vitamins?

00:42:49.000 I take a pretty good amount of vitamins, yeah.

00:42:52.000 Yeah, that's important, too.

00:42:54.000 Take a lot of vitamins.

00:42:55.000 And then it's hard to be strict with your diet when you're on the road, but the big one is alcohol.

00:43:03.000 I'm lucky in that regard, because I'm not a big boozer.

00:43:06.000 I don't know how Bert does it.

00:43:07.000 I started eating these David bars.

00:43:09.000 Oh, those are great.

00:43:10.000 Those are great.

00:43:11.000 Yeah, I think Peter T is involved in that, right?

00:43:12.000 I don't know if he is.

00:43:13.000 Maybe.

00:43:14.000 Yeah, they're delicious.

00:43:15.000 They're great.

00:43:16.000 Boy, they make you fart.

00:43:17.000 I love farting.

00:43:20.000 28 grams of protein, 150 calories, no sugar.

00:43:24.000 They're great.

00:43:25.000 Yeah, there's a bunch of good options now.

00:43:27.000 That you can bring with you on the road if you get hungry.

00:43:30.000 Keep you from eating bullshit.

00:43:31.000 From eating bullshit.

00:43:32.000 That's all I'm trying to do.

00:43:32.000 Sometimes I go like, oh, it was great.

00:43:35.000 Today was a great day.

00:43:36.000 And then it's just dinner.

00:43:38.000 So you're just like, just don't fucking ruin your day.

00:43:40.000 Have you ever had carnivore snacks?

00:43:42.000 Do you know what that is?

00:43:44.000 No.

00:43:45.000 The Carnivore Snacks ribeye is my go-to.

00:43:48.000 I bring that on the UFC broadcast.

00:43:50.000 I give them to Daniel Cormier and me.

00:43:52.000 We eat them.

00:43:53.000 It's like sliced ribeyes that are just dried, but it's got the fat on it.

00:43:58.000 It's good.

00:43:58.000 Yeah, you don't feel guilty at all.

00:44:00.000 If you're hungry and need a snack, open them.

00:44:02.000 It's just meat and salt.

00:44:04.000 Perfect.

00:44:04.000 Perfect snack.

00:44:05.000 And the company's called Carnivore?

00:44:07.000 Yeah, Carnivore Snacks.

00:44:08.000 Snacks with an X. But it's not like...

00:44:12.000 It's not jerky.

00:44:13.000 They describe it as like meat pastry.

00:44:16.000 Yeah.

00:44:17.000 It's good snack food.

00:44:18.000 I like it.

00:44:19.000 Yeah, just to keep from going off the rails.

00:44:21.000 That's all you're trying to do is just mitigate the damage of the day.

00:44:25.000 I have a whole folder on my phone saved up of food that I really can't eat.

00:44:30.000 Really?

00:44:30.000 Just look at restaurants like, oh.

00:44:34.000 What do you miss the most when you...

00:44:35.000 They're trying to eat healthy.

00:44:36.000 Italian food.

00:44:37.000 Italian food.

00:44:38.000 Pasta, right?

00:44:39.000 Yeah, pasta and crazy sandwiches.

00:44:41.000 Oh, my God.

00:44:41.000 We went to Carbone.

00:44:43.000 Oh, in New York?

00:44:44.000 Yeah.

00:44:45.000 They got one in Vegas now, too.

00:44:46.000 I know.

00:44:47.000 I think they've actually had the Vegas one for a while.

00:44:49.000 It's so good, dude.

00:44:51.000 It's so good.

00:44:52.000 That rigatoni with vodka sauce.

00:44:55.000 It has a little kick.

00:44:56.000 They put a little spice in it.

00:44:57.000 It's good.

00:44:58.000 It's so good.

00:45:00.000 It's tough to beat Italian food.

00:45:03.000 It really is.

00:45:04.000 It's tough to beat it just for pure that pleasure of overstuffing yourself.

00:45:11.000 We were there for last summer.

00:45:14.000 It was like every day.

00:45:17.000 And the thing is, I didn't blow up.

00:45:20.000 No?

00:45:21.000 No.

00:45:21.000 I thought I would.

00:45:22.000 I mean, I'm sure I gained a few, but I thought I was like, oh, this is going to be fucking terrible.

00:45:26.000 But it was, I think...

00:45:27.000 A big thing there versus here is portion sizes.

00:45:31.000 You know, like, there's no such thing as, they don't go, here's your pasta, here's a fucking bowl.

00:45:35.000 Like this.

00:45:36.000 Right, right.

00:45:37.000 Well, I think in Italy, the real thing is the food's different.

00:45:41.000 I think our food is poison.

00:45:42.000 It's so bad, right?

00:45:44.000 I mean, I saw, oh my god, I saw this lady on your show, I saw a clip, talking about all these health epidemics. 0.98

00:45:52.000 Like the full run of stats where she was like, one and two for cancer and this and that.

00:45:58.000 Was it Cali Means?

00:46:00.000 She was a... 0.99

00:46:02.000 I think she was a doctor, right?

00:46:04.000 Is she a doctor?

00:46:05.000 Well, I don't think she finished her doctorate or her medical school training because I think...

00:46:11.000 She got to the position where she realized that most metabolic diseases are being caused by food.

00:46:16.000 But that's the thing.

00:46:17.000 That's the big takeaway, I think, from that.

00:46:20.000 You had this conversation with people all the time who travel abroad, and you're just like, everything in Japan was fucking amazing.

00:46:29.000 The food.

00:46:30.000 And then you look at their longevity, which is like...

00:46:33.000 Record-breaking, you know, when you compare it to most of the world.

00:46:37.000 Definitely compared to ours.

00:46:38.000 Definitely compared to ours.

00:46:39.000 Yeah, we have the worst health stats in the Western world.

00:46:42.000 It's our food.

00:46:43.000 Because it's all like...

00:46:45.000 Because corporations.

00:46:46.000 Because corporations profit off keeping you fat and sick.

00:46:50.000 So the best way to make money from food is to get you addicted to food that they can sell you.

00:46:57.000 So they sell you a tremendous amount of cheap, shitty food that has a bunch of preservatives and garbage in it.

00:47:04.000 So it's, you know, potato chips and all sorts of different snacks and all sorts of different things.

00:47:10.000 And then you have your enriched, air quotes, flour that's got a bunch of shit poured into it.

00:47:16.000 And it's a bunch of complex glutens in the grains.

00:47:20.000 Glyphosate, which other countries have banned, but we use everywhere.

00:47:24.000 And 90-plus percent of people have glyphosate in their blood when they test it, which is Roundup, that chemical pesticide.

00:47:31.000 We have herbicides that kill your fucking endocrine system. 1.00

00:47:35.000 We're poisoning ourselves.

00:47:37.000 It's really sad.

00:47:38.000 We're growing stuff at home now.

00:47:39.000 We have a hydroponic garden.

00:47:40.000 Yeah, I talked to Christine about it.

00:47:41.000 It's pretty dope.

00:47:42.000 And that shit's delicious.

00:47:43.000 Yeah, that's the way to go.

00:47:45.000 The lettuce and the tomatoes.

00:47:46.000 It gets all kinds of veggies.

00:47:48.000 Tastes like real food.

00:47:49.000 Yeah.

00:47:49.000 You do taste the difference.

00:47:51.000 100%.

00:47:52.000 Yeah, which reminds me of when you're abroad, right?

00:47:54.000 Because in Italy or in Japan, you have a tomato, you have a strawberry, and you're like, whoa.

00:48:01.000 Yeah.

00:48:01.000 You're like, oh, this is what it's supposed to taste like.

00:48:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:04.000 Yeah, we make stuff that can sit on the shelf forever.

00:48:07.000 That's why our tomatoes look like they're albino tomatoes.

00:48:11.000 And they're hard.

00:48:13.000 Our tomatoes are hard.

00:48:14.000 Like, why is a tomato hard?

00:48:15.000 Like, what is that about?

00:48:16.000 Why does it stay hard for, like, weeks?

00:48:18.000 It just sits there.

00:48:20.000 And then we just keep ingesting that.

00:48:22.000 Yeah, it's terrible.

00:48:22.000 And then you get all this inflammation in your body.

00:48:25.000 And, you know, we've sort of genetically modified a bunch of things so we could feed a bunch of people, so we could have large numbers of people.

00:48:31.000 And there's no benefit to that.

00:48:33.000 How much...

00:48:34.000 Which of this do you think is related to the fact that we have so many more people than some of these places?

00:48:40.000 Oh yeah, that's a fact.

00:48:43.000 It's not just that.

00:48:45.000 So I think there's a bunch of factors and everybody wants to be real binary about it.

00:48:49.000 Sedentary lifestyle is a big one.

00:48:51.000 There's a large percentage of our population that doesn't move enough.

00:48:54.000 They don't exercise.

00:48:56.000 They don't do anything physical.

00:48:58.000 So you got that and then you got years and years and years and years doing that, which...

00:49:03.000 Eventually catches you.

00:49:05.000 Yeah.

00:49:05.000 And so that's the people that start showing up at the hospital.

00:49:08.000 You know, it's metabolic health, right?

00:49:10.000 And then you have lack of understanding of nutrition, which is they think, oh, you're some fuckhead doctor that tells you, just have to eat a balanced diet.

00:49:19.000 You don't need vitamins.

00:49:21.000 Well, that doctor is fat and stupid and probably has a bunch of diseases and he's on pills himself.

00:49:26.000 Like, shut up.

00:49:27.000 Probably never even went to...

00:49:28.000 Through any nutrition training.

00:49:31.000 In medical school, they get about six hours of nutrition training, I think.

00:49:35.000 It's crazy that, especially because we have kids in school, you realize that school still...

00:49:41.000 They don't emphasize nutrition or finance.

00:49:44.000 I feel like that's another crazy thing, is to keep people from understanding how finance works at all.

00:49:49.000 It is crazy, right?

00:49:50.000 You're teaching kids about how to prepare yourself for the world, and you don't teach them about debt and about interest.

00:49:56.000 The first thing that happens when you're a freshman in college is you walk through the student union.

00:50:01.000 And they go, you want a credit card?

00:50:02.000 You're fucking 18. Yeah.

00:50:04.000 And you're like, yeah.

00:50:05.000 It's got 29.9% APR.

00:50:07.000 It's awesome.

00:50:08.000 They're preying upon you.

00:50:09.000 Yeah.

00:50:09.000 They're literally preying upon you.

00:50:10.000 And the school lets it.

00:50:12.000 Yeah.

00:50:12.000 The school's like, yeah, go ahead.

00:50:13.000 Oh, they don't give a fuck about you.

00:50:15.000 That's fucking crazy.

00:50:17.000 You're grist for the mill.

00:50:18.000 Yeah.

00:50:18.000 You just literally, you're paying fucking, you end up paying $300 for a Coke you bought.

00:50:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:50:25.000 Because you just, like, scam.

00:50:26.000 Like, this is insane.

00:50:28.000 Yeah, it's insane.

00:50:29.000 And we don't teach anybody.

00:50:30.000 It's really crazy.

00:50:31.000 Well, also, you get it in their head that they're fucked because the debt that they're getting involved in with student loans is the only debt we have that you can't get rid of.

00:50:42.000 Yeah.

00:50:43.000 The only debt.

00:50:44.000 Yeah, you can't forgive that debt.

00:50:45.000 There are people right now who have Social Security getting docked.

00:50:49.000 Their Social Security is getting docked.

00:50:52.000 For student loans.

00:50:53.000 For their student loan.

00:50:53.000 So they made it to death and they owe money to the government for loans that did them no good at all because they're living off Social Security.

00:51:00.000 So the government gets to steal more money from your Social Security.

00:51:03.000 We don't have to pay you.

00:51:06.000 So nuts.

00:51:07.000 And meanwhile, like today, the reality is you can get that education online.

00:51:13.000 Yeah.

00:51:13.000 Almost all of the books on any sort of subject.

00:51:20.000 Mine is useless, my degree is useless.

00:51:22.000 What's yours in?

00:51:23.000 Communications.

00:51:24.000 Well, you're a communicator.

00:51:25.000 Well, yeah.

00:51:25.000 Worked out.

00:51:25.000 You probably, like, they use you to sell more tickets.

00:51:28.000 They probably do.

00:51:29.000 This guy, look, he went to our university.

00:51:31.000 You should come.

00:51:33.000 Learn like Tom.

00:51:34.000 You know, I didn't learn anything.

00:51:38.000 But how much did you have to pay to go to school?

00:51:40.000 Oh, man.

00:51:41.000 How much were you in debt for?

00:51:43.000 How much was the tuition?

00:51:44.000 I think tuition...

00:51:47.000 When I was there, it was something like $6,000 or $7,000 a semester.

00:51:50.000 So like $12,000, $13,000 a year.

00:51:52.000 Which, you know, now, fucking tuitions now are like...

00:51:56.000 Fuck, $50,000, $80,000 a year?

00:51:59.000 It's great.

00:52:00.000 Because imagine you take on that loan, you start your workforce, you have $300,000 in loans?

00:52:06.000 And God forbid you go to graduate school.

00:52:07.000 Oh, my God.

00:52:09.000 And then you're never getting out of the hole.

00:52:10.000 I mean, I think this is why some doctors and lawyers become sociopaths, because you are dealing with so much debt and you realize no one gives a fuck about you, so you don't give a fuck about anybody else either.

00:52:21.000 Wow.

00:52:22.000 Yeah, it's great for society.

00:52:24.000 Yeah.

00:52:27.000 It's also like, there's two things that can be true, right?

00:52:30.000 I do think that you kind of have to, kids have to like get to work and get something going and get a path in your life.

00:52:38.000 And when you're going to college, it's like you're out of high school.

00:52:41.000 Okay, now you're on your own.

00:52:42.000 You're in college.

00:52:43.000 You got to keep up your GPA.

00:52:44.000 You got to get your degree.

00:52:46.000 Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.

00:52:47.000 So there is value in that.

00:52:49.000 But then also, it's too much money.

00:52:53.000 And you're probably not going to do anything with that.

00:52:56.000 That degree.

00:52:57.000 And if you don't have the degree, people think you're a loser.

00:52:59.000 And it's very strange.

00:53:02.000 It's very strange what's going on.

00:53:03.000 Because you're allowing these corporations to prey upon children.

00:53:09.000 Yeah.

00:53:09.000 Because you're an 18-year-old child.

00:53:11.000 You don't understand anything.

00:53:12.000 You don't understand anything.

00:53:14.000 And then all of a sudden you're in college and you're saddled down with unstoppable debt.

00:53:18.000 And you have this fucking circus of people around you that are also trapped.

00:53:23.000 And you didn't understand what that meant.

00:53:25.000 What you were signing up for.

00:53:26.000 No way!

00:53:27.000 It's the same reason, like, you have a conversation with somebody who's that age, and you're like, oh, you realize that our brains are different, right?

00:53:34.000 Like, you talk to like a...

00:53:35.000 Yeah, they're not developed yet.

00:53:36.000 They're not fully developed yet.

00:53:37.000 They don't understand everything.

00:53:38.000 Especially boys.

00:53:39.000 Way more clearly.

00:53:41.000 Yeah, boys don't get developed until they're like 25. Girls are pretty... 1.00

00:53:45.000 They can figure out the game earlier.

00:53:47.000 They're not as saddled down by testosterone.

00:53:50.000 Yeah, they're...

00:53:51.000 Their frontal lobe develops earlier.

00:53:53.000 Yeah, ours does really take till about 25. Yeah, because you're retarded. 1.00

00:53:56.000 But that's also how you trick them into going to war.

00:53:58.000 Yeah.

00:54:00.000 You know?

00:54:01.000 It's part of it.

00:54:02.000 Like, hey, we need to, you know, the Gulf of Tonkin?

00:54:04.000 Terrible thing those Vietnamese did. 1.00

00:54:06.000 We're going to need to send you overseas.

00:54:08.000 Try that shit on a 40-year-old guy.

00:54:10.000 You're like, what?

00:54:10.000 No fucking way.

00:54:11.000 What happened?

00:54:12.000 Let me Google.

00:54:12.000 Hey, I Googled Gulf of Tonkin.

00:54:14.000 It turns out you guys fucking faked it.

00:54:17.000 What else are you faking to get us to go to war?

00:54:20.000 Oh, my God.

00:54:20.000 You guys fake things to start wars so you can make money?

00:54:23.000 That's crazy.

00:54:24.000 How are you not in jail?

00:54:25.000 How's no one in jail for faking things to start wars?

00:54:29.000 Zero accountability.

00:54:31.000 So then you're like, well, fuck it.

00:54:33.000 They got me with the student loan.

00:54:34.000 They got me with this.

00:54:35.000 They got me with that.

00:54:36.000 And you just get accustomed to life fucking you. 0.96

00:54:39.000 You're just like, oh, society just fucks you over.

00:54:43.000 They just take from you, take from you, and saddle you with debt.

00:54:46.000 I'll tell you this theory, what you're talking about applies to, I think, extends to our appearances.

00:54:54.000 And what I mean is, today a lot of times people talk about how...

00:54:59.000 People wear, like, fucking flip-flops and pajamas.

00:55:02.000 You talking about Bert again?

00:55:03.000 Yeah, well...

00:55:05.000 He's not here to defend himself.

00:55:06.000 I think this is real.

00:55:07.000 But, like, you get on a plane and you see people in pajamas, right?

00:55:11.000 Right.

00:55:12.000 And 50 years ago, they'd be, like, in a suit.

00:55:15.000 And I think part of the reason why people, their appearance is this.

00:55:21.000 I think some of it is tied to a lack of hope.

00:55:25.000 Meaning that...

00:55:27.000 So many years ago, you would embark on your path in life thinking that there's hope.

00:55:34.000 I can have the American dream.

00:55:36.000 I can own the house.

00:55:37.000 I can get the things I want to get.

00:55:40.000 And so many people today are like, there is no hope.

00:55:43.000 So fuck it.

00:55:45.000 I'll go out in my fucking sleepwear.

00:55:49.000 There's a little bit of that.

00:55:50.000 I think there's a connection to that.

00:55:56.000 If the government wants...

00:55:58.000 If they want control and power, which is ultimately what every government wants.

00:56:03.000 It's not a conspiracy theory.

00:56:04.000 Like, every government wants control and power.

00:56:06.000 What's the best way to acquire control and power?

00:56:08.000 Have the people give up.

00:56:09.000 Have them give up.

00:56:10.000 Yeah, it's just fucking...

00:56:11.000 I give up.

00:56:12.000 I give up.

00:56:12.000 Fuck it.

00:56:13.000 I'm wearing flip-flops.

00:56:14.000 Fuck it.

00:56:14.000 I don't care.

00:56:15.000 Because that means I'll do what you say.

00:56:17.000 I'll do what you say when you give up.

00:56:19.000 That's what's really scary to me about AI, automation, and then ultimately universal basic income.

00:56:27.000 You're going to get a lot of giving up.

00:56:30.000 And then the government's going to clamp down on you even more.

00:56:33.000 Yeah.

00:56:34.000 And then it's going to be haves and have-nots on a scale that we've never seen before.

00:56:38.000 When you have companies that are in charge of these automated taxi services, and that's the only way people get around.

00:56:46.000 And the government gives you a certain amount of credits so you don't have to ever worry about traveling.

00:56:50.000 You have credits as long as you're a good boy, Tom.

00:56:52.000 Yeah.

00:56:53.000 As long as you follow the rules.

00:56:54.000 As long as you don't say anything crazy about Israel.

00:56:56.000 As long as you don't do anything nutty, you know, about vaccines.

00:57:00.000 As long as you don't step out of line when it comes to the election.

00:57:03.000 Then you're credits.

00:57:04.000 Don't say anything crazy about this or about that or, I mean, take your vaccines.

00:57:08.000 And if that's a real possibility that they're just going to extract.

00:57:14.000 Extract money out of us.

00:57:16.000 Or attempt to.

00:57:18.000 Attempt to control.

00:57:19.000 This is the grand battle of control.

00:57:23.000 The more they have power over narratives, it's also like...

00:57:28.000 There's things that are going on right now.

00:57:30.000 Like we were just talking about – some friends this weekend were talking about these bot farms.

00:57:36.000 Like there's evidence of bot farms that people have used to go and attack people with certain things.

00:57:43.000 Like a bunch of different countries use bot farms.

00:57:48.000 I'm sure a bunch of different corporations use bot farms too.

00:57:51.000 But no one is getting in trouble for it.

00:57:54.000 Like if you can – Pretend that you're mass groups of people that are getting upset about something.

00:58:02.000 You could just pretend.

00:58:04.000 And there's no...

00:58:05.000 You could pretend.

00:58:07.000 You can hire people to go protest and fly them in on jets.

00:58:12.000 That's happening right now.

00:58:13.000 There was this guy in Maine, and he made this video.

00:58:16.000 Where he was hired to drive these people to the airport.

00:58:20.000 And he's trying to figure out, like, where are all these people going?

00:58:24.000 I'm driving this busload, two busloads full of people at the airport.

00:58:27.000 And they were saying, well, we're going to a protest.

00:58:30.000 And like, what protest?

00:58:32.000 And then he goes and Googles, like, where they're flying to.

00:58:34.000 He's like, oh, this is a paid protest.

00:58:36.000 They're paying people to show up and pretend that it's a protest.

00:58:40.000 So it's like there's puppet masters that are manipulating world events.

00:58:46.000 That's legal.

00:58:47.000 You're allowed to pay people to go protest.

00:58:49.000 Which seems like that should be illegal.

00:58:52.000 You shouldn't be able to pretend that you have an organic uprising against some...

00:58:58.000 Well, it's giving people this illusion.

00:59:00.000 Yes.

00:59:01.000 Which is the entire Kamala Harris campaign.

00:59:03.000 I mean, that's what it was.

00:59:05.000 The whole thing was astroturf.

00:59:07.000 Did you see that last...

00:59:08.000 It was before he left the former FBI director talking about how China...

00:59:17.000 any international rules.

00:59:19.000 Oh, I'm sure.

00:59:20.000 And he's like how they don't respect IP at all.

00:59:23.000 So he's like, they'll just come in and they'll get a, you know, a spy to give them, let's say the IP of some, whatever industry, wind energy, they'll just take it and be like, we have it now.

00:59:37.000 Yep.

00:59:38.000 Start this company and then like, this company goes bankrupt because they were, and they just, Fuck you.

00:59:43.000 Fuck you.

00:59:43.000 Yeah.

00:59:44.000 They made whole Apple stores.

00:59:46.000 Yeah.

00:59:47.000 That are fake Apple stores.

00:59:48.000 So insane.

00:59:49.000 Everything's fake.

00:59:50.000 Fake laptops, fake phones.

00:59:52.000 I saw a guy, too, because, like, the evolution.

00:59:55.000 What happens if you try to get online with one of those?

00:59:57.000 I have no idea.

00:59:58.000 Can you get an Apple ID?

00:59:59.000 Like, does it work?

01:00:00.000 It can't.

01:00:01.000 I'm imagining that it can't.

01:00:03.000 But, like, you know, I always think about the fact with AI, how we're in, like, version one.

01:00:10.000 Right.

01:00:10.000 And we're all blown away by it already, right?

01:00:13.000 Right.

01:00:13.000 And there was a watch guy online who was like, I have two Daytonas.

01:00:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:21.000 And he was like, dude.

01:00:23.000 He goes, this is the best one I've ever seen.

01:00:26.000 Fakes, yeah.

01:00:27.000 The fake, he had to take it apart and to look at parts that were inside.

01:00:32.000 Yeah.

01:00:33.000 Like a spin wheel.

01:00:34.000 He goes, oh, this is missing the logo.

01:00:35.000 So which begs the question, like, what is it?

01:00:38.000 Like, what are you buying?

01:00:39.000 Do you want it from this company only, or do you want a Rolex Daytona?

01:00:44.000 Like, what do you want?

01:00:45.000 Well, I mean, I think if in the case of that, you know that the movements, the actual inner workings of the real one are far superior.

01:00:56.000 Are they, though?

01:00:57.000 I think so, yeah.

01:00:58.000 Why?

01:00:59.000 Yeah.

01:00:59.000 Well, I assume that.

01:01:00.000 What if the other one has a 72-hour battery or a power supply, too?

01:01:06.000 What if you 3D print every single aspect of the watch?

01:01:11.000 I would know.

01:01:11.000 Then it's the same thing.

01:01:12.000 Pretty close, I guess.

01:01:13.000 But it can be the same thing.

01:01:15.000 Like, we're not talking, like, my watch, like, there's a Panera.

01:01:19.000 Yeah.

01:01:20.000 This could be fake.

01:01:21.000 I mean, I bought it from my friend, so I'm sure it's real.

01:01:23.000 Yeah.

01:01:23.000 But, like, it's not a fake Ferrari.

01:01:26.000 Right.

01:01:26.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:01:27.000 Like, if you've got a fake Ferrari, like, oh my god, these tires have no traction.

01:01:31.000 This suspension sucks.

01:01:32.000 I hate the idea of fake watch, though.

01:01:34.000 Right, but why?

01:01:35.000 Because you used to be poor.

01:01:37.000 Maybe because I used to be poor.

01:01:39.000 I also just don't respect the copying of it.

01:01:43.000 Right, it's bullshit.

01:01:44.000 I wouldn't buy one because you're contributing to some.

01:01:49.000 But it's kind of funny.

01:01:50.000 It is kind of funny.

01:01:52.000 You can get one for $40.

01:01:54.000 That's like a $7,000 watch.

01:01:56.000 It's really crazy.

01:01:57.000 It's insane.

01:01:59.000 And it's insane that it's tricking these watch experts, right?

01:02:03.000 But I don't really understand the...

01:02:05.000 Yeah, look at these.

01:02:06.000 So, one of those is fake?

01:02:08.000 Yeah, the right.

01:02:09.000 The one on the right is fake?

01:02:10.000 Yeah.

01:02:10.000 Yeah, I'd buy that.

01:02:11.000 Looks perfect.

01:02:12.000 I'll take it.

01:02:13.000 How much?

01:02:13.000 He's pointing out.

01:02:15.000 Look, can you see the difference?

01:02:17.000 Like, who?

01:02:18.000 Imagine.

01:02:18.000 Who knows this on the spot?

01:02:20.000 Well, also.

01:02:20.000 You wouldn't know this on the spot, right?

01:02:21.000 Yeah.

01:02:22.000 Also, my vision sucks.

01:02:24.000 Mine does, too.

01:02:25.000 So, I'd have to, like, take it out and do this.

01:02:27.000 Like, I don't know.

01:02:28.000 Like, this one, I can't even.

01:02:31.000 I guess I can read the time.

01:02:33.000 Look at these.

01:02:33.000 Or read the date, rather.

01:02:34.000 But I mean, they're...

01:02:35.000 You know, but the tiny-ass windows, that's a struggle.

01:02:38.000 Like, if it's dark in the room, I'm not reading that.

01:02:40.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:40.000 My vision absolutely sucks.

01:02:41.000 That's incredible, though.

01:02:42.000 The replicas are crazy.

01:02:44.000 They're so good.

01:02:45.000 They're so...

01:02:45.000 But again, like, try making a replica 911 Turbo S. Good luck, fuckface.

01:02:50.000 Good luck, yeah, I know.

01:02:51.000 Good luck, fuckface. 1.00

01:02:52.000 But you can make one of those.

01:02:54.000 But wait, how to...

01:02:55.000 Because this, I...

01:02:56.000 Okay, I understand at least...

01:02:58.000 What you're doing in the watch thing, right?

01:03:00.000 Then the person buys the far less expensive one, and they get the feeling, I guess, that people go, oh, you have the real one.

01:03:07.000 Right, right, right.

01:03:08.000 But if you're getting an Apple product, a fake Apple product?

01:03:11.000 You don't know you're getting a fake Apple product if you're in China.

01:03:13.000 So the whole thing's a scam?

01:03:14.000 The whole store's fake.

01:03:15.000 And everyone that's in on it.

01:03:17.000 It's an Apple store.

01:03:18.000 Do you think people that are hired think they're in?

01:03:20.000 It has the fucking logo.

01:03:21.000 That's an Apple fake factory raided in China.

01:03:24.000 This was 10 years ago, though.

01:03:25.000 It did.

01:03:26.000 It goes on to say that it tricked the employees that thought they were working at a real Apple store.

01:03:30.000 That's the craziest part.

01:03:31.000 Yeah, it's like it's layers of severance.

01:03:34.000 It just goes deeper and deeper and deeper.

01:03:36.000 Yeah.

01:03:37.000 That's really crazy.

01:03:38.000 You ever follow the YouTube channel Stance Elements?

01:03:41.000 Uh-uh.

01:03:42.000 It's a guy that just works on cars.

01:03:45.000 Dope shit.

01:03:46.000 And one of the things he's doing, he's building his own Ferrari F40.

01:03:50.000 That's cool.

01:03:51.000 So instead of buying one for like $3 million, which is...

01:03:55.000 Okay.

01:03:56.000 I'm going to say something that's going to piss off these Ferrari people.

01:03:59.000 It ain't worth it.

01:04:01.000 It's not worth $3 million.

01:04:02.000 It's not that good.

01:04:03.000 If it was new today, you'd be like, this should be taken off the market.

01:04:08.000 This thing has zero fucking traction control.

01:04:11.000 But because it's a classic, it's worth a ton of money.

01:04:14.000 So what he's doing is making it better.

01:04:17.000 Stance works.

01:04:18.000 Did I say Stance Elements?

01:04:20.000 That's the B-Boys.

01:04:22.000 That's the breakdancers. 1.00

01:04:23.000 Which, by the way, Stance Elements.

01:04:25.000 How did I fuck that up?

01:04:26.000 Stance Elements, by the way, is also amazing.

01:04:29.000 We could talk about that.

01:04:29.000 But this guy, Stance Works, this is his own...

01:04:33.000 That's not a Ferrari.

01:04:35.000 He's building it from scratch.

01:04:36.000 He bought all the parts online.

01:04:37.000 So he bought all the body panels online.

01:04:39.000 And then he made his own frame.

01:04:41.000 And then he bought a Ferrari engine from, like, a different model of Ferrari.

01:04:46.000 And he's putting that in it.

01:04:48.000 But this is like a multi...

01:04:50.000 Month journey that this dude has been on that I've been watching all the videos.

01:04:55.000 Whenever he has a new video, I watch it.

01:04:56.000 He does a lot of dope shit, but this is a guy that like really loves cars and he's super smart and when he's talking about cars, it's fascinating because like he's also a fan of the original M5, which I've thought about getting one of those.

01:05:11.000 Not very fast, but apparently like super engaging driving experience.

01:05:16.000 The original M5, which I think was like I want to say it was like 280 horsepower.

01:05:24.000 In what year?

01:05:26.000 80-something.

01:05:27.000 80-something?

01:05:28.000 Yeah.

01:05:28.000 Which, by the way, I think it was 88, maybe?

01:05:31.000 Back then, that was a lot.

01:05:33.000 I have an 89 M3 that I bought.

01:05:36.000 Ooh.

01:05:37.000 E30 M3.

01:05:38.000 Ooh, yeah.

01:05:39.000 And I have an S54 engine going into it.

01:05:42.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:05:43.000 So that should be...

01:05:44.000 How much horsepower is in that?

01:05:46.000 I don't know.

01:05:47.000 It's more than it came with.

01:05:48.000 I have an E46 M3.

01:05:50.000 Those are fun.

01:05:51.000 I love it.

01:05:52.000 Yeah.

01:05:52.000 It's so balanced.

01:05:53.000 Yeah.

01:05:53.000 It's like such an engaging driving experience.

01:05:56.000 That's what I'm into.

01:05:57.000 I'm into that.

01:05:58.000 I'm not into chasing the lower zero to 60 times.

01:06:02.000 Yeah, that's nonsense.

01:06:04.000 Like, if you ever use that on a public road, you're an asshole.

01:06:07.000 Pretty much.

01:06:08.000 But engaging cars, you could drive the speed limit and enjoy the shit out of them.

01:06:12.000 True.

01:06:12.000 Just fun just going around a corner and just accelerating to 60. They're fun.

01:06:17.000 That's fun.

01:06:17.000 You feel more.

01:06:18.000 Like an old air-cooled Porsche.

01:06:21.000 Yeah.

01:06:21.000 You feel it.

01:06:22.000 You feel it.

01:06:23.000 Did you get that one for you?

01:06:26.000 You had one being built.

01:06:28.000 Yeah, it's not done yet.

01:06:29.000 It's real close, real close.

01:06:30.000 It's exciting.

01:06:31.000 That's the RSR project.

01:06:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:33.000 That's rad.

01:06:34.000 Ooh, very excited about that.

01:06:36.000 It's like 350 horsepower, 2,000 pounds.

01:06:40.000 Meanwhile, I have some crazy fucking car coming to me, too.

01:06:43.000 What do you got?

01:06:44.000 This Assetto Fiorino 296 GTB Ferrari.

01:06:47.000 It's like 700, 800 horsepower.

01:06:50.000 Christ.

01:06:51.000 I've seen your Blazer, but I watched a video on it.

01:06:55.000 Yeah.

01:06:56.000 Those guys, the Velocity Motorsports guys.

01:06:58.000 Awesome.

01:06:58.000 Oh, my God.

01:06:59.000 They're doing cool shit.

01:07:00.000 Velocity did...

01:07:01.000 They really went out with that one.

01:07:03.000 That one's great.

01:07:05.000 They do Scouts and Broncos, but they also just started doing Mustangs.

01:07:08.000 Oh.

01:07:09.000 Nice.

01:07:10.000 I took one of the Mustangs out.

01:07:12.000 Very fun.

01:07:13.000 I think 67 Mustangs.

01:07:15.000 So you get that beautiful style.

01:07:17.000 Is that the one with the flared fender?

01:07:18.000 Did you send me that?

01:07:20.000 No.

01:07:21.000 Did you send it to me?

01:07:22.000 The green one?

01:07:23.000 No, that was a different one.

01:07:25.000 Oh, okay.

01:07:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:26.000 Every time I see something cool, I'm like, check this shit out.

01:07:30.000 I sent you the other one.

01:07:31.000 What did I send you?

01:07:32.000 I sent you that Giulia, that Italian one. 0.56

01:07:36.000 That the guy came to my place?

01:07:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:39.000 That was fun as shit.

01:07:40.000 The Alfa Romeo.

01:07:42.000 Yes.

01:07:42.000 I've seen that online, getting reviewed.

01:07:45.000 It's a Resto Mod Alfa Romeo.

01:07:49.000 I don't trust my people.

01:07:51.000 No?

01:07:52.000 No.

01:07:53.000 I have one of my people's vehicles.

01:07:56.000 But generally, I don't trust my people.

01:07:59.000 Oh my god, I'm blanking on it.

01:08:01.000 I just think they're...

01:08:01.000 They're eating pasta and staring at ass, and they're not going to do a good job.

01:08:06.000 My car's made by either Germans who do meth, or... 1.00

01:08:10.000 Totem, that's what it was.

01:08:11.000 Oh, wow.

01:08:12.000 Yeah, dude, I took one of these.

01:08:13.000 This guy came...

01:08:14.000 Ooh, baby.

01:08:15.000 Look at that.

01:08:16.000 It's fucking rad.

01:08:18.000 Did you like it?

01:08:18.000 Totem Automobili.

01:08:19.000 I did like it a lot.

01:08:20.000 I didn't order one.

01:08:21.000 I didn't order it.

01:08:22.000 You didn't?

01:08:22.000 I don't know.

01:08:23.000 Well, he's making a prototype for a whole new model.

01:08:27.000 So I was like...

01:08:28.000 I don't know.

01:08:29.000 Why?

01:08:29.000 That's so sick.

01:08:30.000 That looks like a James Bond car.

01:08:31.000 It does.

01:08:32.000 Goddamn.

01:08:34.000 And it's 100% custom, you know?

01:08:36.000 Ooh, I bet that thing flies. 1.00

01:08:39.000 Dude, I was driving down Fairfax in L.A. In the rain, and he turned off the traction control.

01:08:45.000 Oh, no.

01:08:46.000 Yeah.

01:08:46.000 Turned off?

01:08:47.000 He turned it off.

01:08:48.000 Why'd he turn it off?

01:08:49.000 He was like, let it run, explode, emotion.

01:08:52.000 Oh, no.

01:08:53.000 And guess what?

01:08:53.000 The emotion almost ended up wrapped around a fucking light pole.

01:08:56.000 Did you spin?

01:08:56.000 Dude, I was like, I corrected it, but I was like, panic, and I was like, fucking driving this guy's...

01:09:01.000 That's the fear of losing it in a Porsche, that rear engine whip, you know, that understeer that happens?

01:09:08.000 Yeah.

01:09:08.000 Or oversteer?

01:09:09.000 What is it called?

01:09:10.000 Supply, throttle, something throttle, oversteer?

01:09:13.000 When you lift, throttle, lift, throttle, oversteer.

01:09:16.000 Yeah, and then the back end goes on you.

01:09:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:19.000 It's a weird design, like having the engine out back like that.

01:09:22.000 This thing also happens in everybody's mind who hasn't, who is not, it's literally something you have to be trained, which is that when something, when you're in a car and you're at a certain rate of speed and you're Yep.

01:09:46.000 Yep.

01:09:49.000 Are going to be carried through.

01:09:51.000 And actually, the only thing that will keep you from usually losing it is to stay on throughout.

01:09:56.000 Not necessarily give it a ton.

01:09:58.000 Right.

01:09:58.000 But you need that momentum to carry you through it.

01:10:01.000 Right.

01:10:01.000 And so it's just something that...

01:10:02.000 There's countless videos of somebody in their new fucking car just going...

01:10:07.000 And they just go into a tree.

01:10:08.000 I just watched one on a new GT3 RS.

01:10:10.000 I've seen that one.

01:10:11.000 It's brutal.

01:10:12.000 He's like 18. Horrible.

01:10:13.000 And he did exactly that.

01:10:15.000 Yep.

01:10:15.000 He hits the turn, off throttle, tries to correct.

01:10:18.000 Bye.

01:10:19.000 Bye-bye.

01:10:20.000 Fucking painful to watch.

01:10:22.000 Painful.

01:10:22.000 But that is a bad element of that design.

01:10:25.000 The rear weight.

01:10:26.000 Yeah.

01:10:27.000 And also, it's like, is that really the best way to do it?

01:10:29.000 Because, you know, everybody always said that the Cayman is the better car if they just gave it the same sort of love that they give the Porsche.

01:10:36.000 I fucking love that car.

01:10:37.000 The 911.

01:10:37.000 The Cayman?

01:10:38.000 I love it.

01:10:39.000 Yeah.

01:10:39.000 It's like my heart is with that car.

01:10:43.000 If you go, like, what's the one you're in love with the most?

01:10:45.000 It's still that car.

01:10:46.000 But isn't it interesting that, like, that car is not as prestigious?

01:10:50.000 It's not as prestigious, yeah.

01:10:51.000 Like, why is that?

01:10:52.000 That seems stupid.

01:10:53.000 It's a whole thing, too.

01:10:54.000 And if you have, like, you'll see people like, ah, you got the Cayman.

01:10:56.000 You should have gotten the 911.

01:10:57.000 I'm like, you should drive this fucking thing.

01:10:59.000 Yeah, but people that say that are all retarded.

01:11:01.000 They kind of are.

01:11:02.000 Yeah.

01:11:03.000 Anybody that says that is an idiot.

01:11:04.000 You don't know anything about cars.

01:11:06.000 Mid-engine.

01:11:07.000 Because you have a Dinan, right?

01:11:09.000 No, it's not Dinan.

01:11:10.000 What's the company?

01:11:10.000 Dinan did my BMW.

01:11:12.000 Yeah.

01:11:12.000 What's your company?

01:11:14.000 For that one, DeMond.

01:11:16.000 Yeah, Rick DeMond did the upgrade on that.

01:11:19.000 Yeah, so what that is is what it should be from Porsche.

01:11:23.000 Yeah.

01:11:23.000 They should take that big, juicy...

01:11:25.000 GT3 RS engine, or even crazier, take that GT2 RS.

01:11:29.000 Throw it in that bitch. 1.00

01:11:30.000 Throw it in that bitch. 1.00

01:11:30.000 It just upsets 911 owners. 1.00

01:11:32.000 That's it.

01:11:33.000 It just fucks up there.

01:11:34.000 They're a bunch of little fairies. 1.00

01:11:35.000 Yeah, prestige.

01:11:36.000 If that upsets you, then you need to go find something else.

01:11:39.000 You need to go do mushrooms on the mountaintop somewhere.

01:11:42.000 By the way, did you like that?

01:11:43.000 You feel it at all?

01:11:43.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

01:11:46.000 Did you ever drive the GT4 RS they came out with like a year or two ago?

01:11:50.000 No, I didn't.

01:11:51.000 I heard it.

01:11:51.000 I didn't drive it yet.

01:11:52.000 I'm sure it's dope, but it's also an automatic.

01:11:54.000 It's all automatic.

01:11:54.000 Come on, you pussies.

01:11:56.000 Yeah.

01:11:56.000 Like, what are we doing?

01:11:57.000 Why are you buying a street car?

01:12:00.000 Are you a crazy track guy?

01:12:02.000 Because that's a track car.

01:12:03.000 Okay, which is fine.

01:12:04.000 Yeah.

01:12:05.000 Which is fine.

01:12:05.000 Yeah, take it.

01:12:06.000 But for the average person that like enjoy, you like make an enthusiast car that's a goddamn three pedal.

01:12:14.000 Yeah.

01:12:15.000 Make a manual.

01:12:16.000 Well, thank God they still do.

01:12:17.000 Yeah.

01:12:18.000 They make some.

01:12:19.000 I mean, a lot of places just don't.

01:12:21.000 It's them and BMW.

01:12:23.000 Ford still makes them.

01:12:24.000 They still do it with their Mustangs.

01:12:25.000 I can't believe that Ferrari doesn't realize that if they did just a limited run.

01:12:30.000 Oh, my God.

01:12:31.000 It would sell like crazy.

01:12:32.000 It would sell so crazy.

01:12:33.000 Yeah, they gave up.

01:12:34.000 They gave up.

01:12:35.000 Lamborghini gave up.

01:12:36.000 I wish they would.

01:12:37.000 Thank God Porsche didn't.

01:12:38.000 No, I know.

01:12:39.000 But they did with some cars.

01:12:41.000 Like, a lot of their cars, you can't get the GTS now in a 5-speed?

01:12:45.000 You can't.

01:12:46.000 Or, excuse me, a 6-speed or a 7-speed, whatever the fuck they have now.

01:12:49.000 You can't get, I don't think you can get the S. You can't get the turbo.

01:12:53.000 No, you can't get the turbo, yeah.

01:12:54.000 You have to get the T or the regular, maybe you can get the regular 911.

01:12:58.000 I think you can get a regular 911 Carrera.

01:13:01.000 GT3 you can get still, but you can't get the GT3 RS.

01:13:04.000 Like, come on, guys.

01:13:06.000 Shut up. 0.95

01:13:07.000 Just shut up. 1.00

01:13:08.000 I think the audience...

01:13:10.000 Should inform them, right?

01:13:12.000 They should know that their fan base wants all that shit in manuals.

01:13:16.000 It's what pisses me off about Corvette, too.

01:13:20.000 You guys have the most dope shape now.

01:13:22.000 The C8 Corvette is so sick.

01:13:25.000 You're putting out these insane ones, like the Z06 and the ZR1, but it's still...

01:13:31.000 People want to...

01:13:35.000 I don't know.

01:13:36.000 It's got to be...

01:13:37.000 All that has to be cost analysis, right?

01:13:40.000 It's a little bit of that, and what is that, Rogues?

01:13:42.000 Yeah.

01:13:43.000 I kind of quit those, but I'll have one.

01:13:45.000 I fucking love these.

01:13:46.000 I thought I was going to have a hard time.

01:13:48.000 I quit them over the weekend.

01:13:49.000 Really?

01:13:50.000 I did nothing.

01:13:50.000 I was like, this is easy.

01:13:51.000 I think I'm lucky.

01:13:54.000 With your...

01:13:54.000 I think, yeah.

01:13:55.000 I don't think I get physically addicted to stuff that way.

01:13:59.000 Except coffee.

01:14:00.000 Yeah.

01:14:01.000 I've done that one, where I took the whole day off coffee and I was like, why am I fucking yawning?

01:14:05.000 Yeah.

01:14:06.000 Yeah.

01:14:08.000 Fuck!

01:14:09.000 Coffee gets me too.

01:14:11.000 Headaches.

01:14:11.000 But I like coffee so much, and coffee's everywhere.

01:14:13.000 I'm like, I don't think I need to quit that one.

01:14:15.000 No.

01:14:16.000 I didn't get headaches last time I tried to quit coffee.

01:14:18.000 I quit for a couple days, and I was like, this is just rough.

01:14:23.000 But the nicotine pouches were nothing.

01:14:25.000 That's great.

01:14:25.000 It was super easy.

01:14:27.000 I feel like I have some of that where I'm not that physically...

01:14:32.000 But dude, I have friends that have like, anything gets them.

01:14:36.000 Like, I had a guy who came over here to do a podcast and he saw that someone had sent us some Kratom stuff that I wound up throwing out.

01:14:43.000 I was like, I don't want this shit anyway.

01:14:45.000 And he's like, don't take that.

01:14:47.000 I can't get off of it.

01:14:48.000 Get that Kratom away from me. 1.00

01:14:50.000 I've got a real problem with it.

01:14:51.000 I'm like, really?

01:14:52.000 I know someone 18 years on it.

01:14:54.000 What?

01:14:54.000 Yeah.

01:14:56.000 What?

01:14:56.000 Yeah.

01:14:57.000 18 years on a shitty opium?

01:14:59.000 Well, because they were...

01:15:01.000 Using it to get off of opiates.

01:15:03.000 Oh, God.

01:15:04.000 And they can't go without it.

01:15:07.000 Wow!

01:15:09.000 But the high is so, like, whatever.

01:15:11.000 Yeah, it's not.

01:15:12.000 I tried it, and then people were telling me, be careful, be careful.

01:15:16.000 Oh, Duncan loved it.

01:15:17.000 We had some at the club.

01:15:18.000 Yeah.

01:15:19.000 And Duncan's like, hey, man, you got any more of that?

01:15:23.000 Got any more of that liquid heroin, man?

01:15:26.000 I was like, keep it away from Duncan.

01:15:28.000 Yeah.

01:15:29.000 He's so funny, dude.

01:15:30.000 He's the best.

01:15:31.000 He's the best, but we had a whole box of it there that Ron White had left there, and it was gone by Tuesday.

01:15:37.000 I got in there on Tuesday.

01:15:38.000 Oh, everyone went through it.

01:15:39.000 Where did it all go?

01:15:40.000 No, it was all Duncan.

01:15:41.000 It was all Duncan?

01:15:41.000 We drank all of them.

01:15:42.000 I was drinking two and three a day, man!

01:15:44.000 I go, you're not even supposed to drink one a day.

01:15:46.000 It's like a half a dose, which is really weird.

01:15:49.000 Why did they make one of them?

01:15:51.000 Be two doses?

01:15:52.000 Two doses.

01:15:53.000 That's crazy.

01:15:53.000 It's a tiny little shot.

01:15:54.000 That's a good way to get you onto it.

01:15:56.000 Yeah, it's like when you buy a bag of chips and it says how many calories in it per serving.

01:16:01.000 Six chips.

01:16:02.000 Why is this little baggie not even a single serving?

01:16:06.000 You know I'm going to eat more than that one bag.

01:16:07.000 Of course they know.

01:16:08.000 Piece of shit.

01:16:12.000 Garbage tactic to get people into it.

01:16:14.000 It's horrible.

01:16:14.000 It's so predatory.

01:16:15.000 It's just lies.

01:16:16.000 You're lying about the amount of calories.

01:16:19.000 That's so funny, dude.

01:16:21.000 But I think I'm very lucky.

01:16:23.000 Because I know people that get addicted to weed.

01:16:27.000 I have gone a long time without weed and never had any problem.

01:16:33.000 Yeah, people get physically addicted.

01:16:35.000 I didn't really realize that was a thing.

01:16:37.000 I think it's just different genetics.

01:16:40.000 It totally is.

01:16:41.000 Look at Bert.

01:16:42.000 A normal person who drinks as much as him would be dead.

01:16:44.000 Yeah.

01:16:45.000 You'd have, like, real liver problems, and he doesn't have any problems.

01:16:49.000 He's in the gym in the morning.

01:16:50.000 It's crazy.

01:16:51.000 It's nuts.

01:16:51.000 So it's like, you just gotta deal with the cards you dealt.

01:16:55.000 Like, why don't I have four aces?

01:16:57.000 Well, you don't.

01:16:58.000 You don't.

01:16:58.000 So, what are you gonna do?

01:17:00.000 Yeah.

01:17:00.000 Gonna just sit here and fucking complain about everything, or what?

01:17:03.000 You gotta figure it out.

01:17:04.000 Yeah.

01:17:05.000 Figure it out, bitch. 1.00

01:17:06.000 Yeah.

01:17:06.000 Yeah, figure it out.

01:17:07.000 Yeah.

01:17:07.000 You know, everybody needs love, everybody needs support, but everybody also needs figure it out, bitch.

01:17:13.000 Yeah, there's not enough of that.

01:17:16.000 There's really not enough of that.

01:17:17.000 There's not.

01:17:18.000 Because you really, it's like, you don't gain anything by doing the like, how come I don't get this?

01:17:26.000 It's like, how come I'm not 6 '6"?

01:17:27.000 I don't know.

01:17:28.000 I'm not.

01:17:29.000 Just deal with it.

01:17:30.000 Yeah, you gotta just deal with it.

01:17:31.000 I think that's a real problem where people, you know, if you think about like the...

01:17:37.000 You remember that documentary, The Secret, that stupid documentary?

01:17:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:17:42.000 Like, all you have to do is think about things and you can make them happen.

01:17:45.000 Not really.

01:17:46.000 That's bullshit.

01:17:47.000 But it's a part of it.

01:17:49.000 It's a part of making things happen.

01:17:52.000 Like, you can't just say, I'm gonna...

01:17:55.000 Fucking breathe underwater.

01:17:57.000 I'm just going to think about it until I can do it.

01:17:59.000 No, you can't do that.

01:17:59.000 Give it a shot.

01:18:00.000 Yeah, there's physical limitations to the human frame.

01:18:02.000 There's physical limitations for your particular human frame.

01:18:05.000 Yeah.

01:18:06.000 You know, you can't get taller.

01:18:07.000 You can lose weight, but you can't really do much other than that.

01:18:12.000 Yeah.

01:18:13.000 You can kind of get in good shape for what you got, but what you got is what you got.

01:18:17.000 What you got, yeah.

01:18:19.000 But there's a bunch of people that just think about their problems all the time.

01:18:23.000 It's an obsession and what it does is it carries you through time without having to deal with the problem because you just talk about the problem.

01:18:32.000 That's a big one.

01:18:33.000 I know so many people who do that.

01:18:35.000 It becomes your focus is your problems rather than your solutions.

01:18:38.000 Do you know how many people who live in Guatemala in a fucking dirt floor shack would love your problems? 1.00

01:18:45.000 Yeah.

01:18:45.000 Exactly.

01:18:46.000 Your problems are not that big a problem if you're living in America and you have your health.

01:18:50.000 You need that perspective change from people.

01:18:53.000 Exactly.

01:18:54.000 Yeah.

01:18:54.000 There's a big thing of like...

01:18:57.000 If your problems become your identity, it's a fucking... 0.63

01:19:00.000 Because I know people like that, right?

01:19:02.000 Have you ever seen that video?

01:19:04.000 The final boss of Woke?

01:19:07.000 It's like this one trans man who's like, I'm a disabled trans man.

01:19:15.000 I'm also on food stamps.

01:19:19.000 I also have...

01:19:21.000 It's a real person?

01:19:22.000 And it's...

01:19:24.000 Donald Trump is trying to erase me.

01:19:26.000 And it's like this is the identity.

01:19:28.000 This is existential battle.

01:19:30.000 But this final boss has everything wrong with him.

01:19:36.000 You're not him.

01:19:37.000 You're a girl pretending to be a man. 1.00

01:19:39.000 So it's like you've got everything wrong.

01:19:41.000 And it just keeps going on and on.

01:19:43.000 Have you seen this, Jamie?

01:19:44.000 Do you know it is?

01:19:47.000 Sounds like somebody should try to get on stage.

01:19:49.000 No, big fat stupid face.

01:19:51.000 It's not going to work.

01:19:51.000 The whole thing is just like, it's just, it's so crazy that people will just like, there's a value and a currency to being a victim.

01:20:00.000 Yes.

01:20:00.000 And so they'll add stuff.

01:20:03.000 Social media has also helped that a lot.

01:20:06.000 Because there's plenty of people that don't want to deal with their shit that'll go, yes, girl, you go, yeah.

01:20:12.000 Incredible.

01:20:13.000 Society's doing this to you.

01:20:15.000 Yeah.

01:20:16.000 Did you hear about that lady that got fired from Equinox in Manhattan? 1.00

01:20:19.000 She was late 47 times in 10 months, and she sued because of racism.

01:20:26.000 She said she got fired for racism, and she won.

01:20:28.000 She won.

01:20:29.000 Because it's a jury, and she won $11 million? 0.99

01:20:31.000 No.

01:20:32.000 Yes, she did.

01:20:33.000 No.

01:20:33.000 She was late 47 times?

01:20:35.000 Not only that, you were working at Equinox.

01:20:37.000 You could work for all of time, and you'll never make $11 million.

01:20:44.000 Like, you're not gonna make $11 million working in Equinox.

01:20:47.000 But yet you won.

01:20:48.000 And she only worked there for 10 months. 0.98

01:20:50.000 She was late 47 times in 10 months.

01:20:53.000 And that's why they were firing her?

01:20:54.000 Like, they're like, you're just perpetually late.

01:20:56.000 They're like, bitch, you are always late. 1.00

01:20:58.000 Yeah.

01:20:58.000 And then she's like, that's so racist.

01:21:00.000 That's crazy.

01:21:01.000 And she won.

01:21:02.000 And she took it to court and won.

01:21:03.000 They're definitely gonna appeal that shit.

01:21:05.000 Of course they're gonna appeal.

01:21:06.000 But the thing is, when you have a jury, you have a jury of people so fucking stupid, they don't get out of jury duty.

01:21:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:17.000 And they might be like, yeah, fuck Equinox, man.

01:21:21.000 Yeah, fuck the man, man.

01:21:24.000 Because that guy's just too lazy to go to the gym.

01:21:26.000 Of course.

01:21:28.000 Not just that.

01:21:28.000 It's a corporation.

01:21:30.000 You don't think of it as an individual.

01:21:32.000 That's just a company that's going to fuck you over.

01:21:34.000 That's why people don't feel bad stealing from work.

01:21:36.000 Yeah.

01:21:37.000 You don't feel like you're stealing.

01:21:38.000 Like, if someone was working in your house and they were stealing from you, like, they stole your fork?

01:21:43.000 Like, where's my fucking fork?

01:21:44.000 Yeah.

01:21:44.000 Like, this is bullshit.

01:21:45.000 And then you find out a guy who worked for you stole your fork?

01:21:48.000 Like, you're fucking fired.

01:21:49.000 But if an office, if, like, someone, like, takes a fork home, like, if you have a kitchen in your office, we use a bunch of forks for the staff.

01:21:57.000 Yeah.

01:21:58.000 And someone takes that fork.

01:21:59.000 It's no big deal.

01:22:00.000 It's the office's fork.

01:22:00.000 We just need to order more forks, man.

01:22:02.000 These fucking forks keep disappearing.

01:22:04.000 And you go over Tom's house one day and, like, Tom's got four of the office forks.

01:22:07.000 Like, did you steal the office forks?

01:22:09.000 I forgot.

01:22:10.000 I just keep forgetting to bring them back.

01:22:11.000 Because they don't belong to somebody.

01:22:13.000 Right.

01:22:13.000 Exactly.

01:22:13.000 It's not a human.

01:22:14.000 It's a corporation.

01:22:15.000 Which is also why corporations can act like fucking psychopaths.

01:22:19.000 Yeah.

01:22:20.000 Because they're also not a human.

01:22:21.000 So they can just do whatever the fuck they have to do.

01:22:24.000 Which is why our food supply is so bad.

01:22:25.000 Because they're just trying to maximize profit.

01:22:28.000 They literally have a duty to maximize profit.

01:22:30.000 My mom definitely thinks of corporations as they can deal with it. 1.00

01:22:35.000 Of course.

01:22:36.000 And I remember my dad used to tell this story that when they first got married, they were at a Holiday Inn and they were leaving.

01:22:43.000 And then he was like, what is that in the suitcase?

01:22:45.000 And it was their towels.

01:22:47.000 And she was like, the towels. 1.00

01:22:48.000 And he's like, you can't take that.

01:22:50.000 She was like, why?

01:22:51.000 Because it belongs to the Holiday Inn.

01:22:54.000 It's theirs.

01:22:55.000 And she was like, they have like a hundred of them.

01:22:57.000 And he's like, yeah, it's not ours, though.

01:22:59.000 We can't.

01:23:00.000 And she's like, it's fine.

01:23:02.000 And everywhere I've gone with her, she's like, you know, she'd be like, can I take this?

01:23:08.000 That's so funny.

01:23:09.000 We've been places where I've been like, hey.

01:23:12.000 Sorry, my mom wondering if we could take this glass.

01:23:17.000 She makes you ask?

01:23:19.000 Yeah.

01:23:20.000 And then...

01:23:21.000 I saw a video you were showing your mom these clips.

01:23:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:23:24.000 The clips from your new Netflix show.

01:23:26.000 Oh, fucking amazing.

01:23:27.000 It was amazing.

01:23:28.000 I knew it was going to be a killer.

01:23:31.000 I was like, she's going to hate it.

01:23:32.000 And they were like, okay.

01:23:33.000 So we set up a private screening for her.

01:23:35.000 It's also like, why am I watching this?

01:23:37.000 I don't know if you know, but you're my mom.

01:23:39.000 It's so funny.

01:23:41.000 She's like, dude, she fucking, she hated the show so much.

01:23:45.000 Oh, sure.

01:23:46.000 She came over yesterday for Mother's Day.

01:23:49.000 And I was like, she goes, so.

01:23:51.000 Because on the rest of that thing, she made me promise that we're going to cut the first story.

01:23:57.000 Yeah.

01:23:58.000 She's like, you're definitely not going to use that, right?

01:24:00.000 So eventually I was like, yeah, we're cutting it.

01:24:03.000 And so, yesterday she was like, did you cut it?

01:24:05.000 I go, of course not.

01:24:06.000 It's fucking, it's Netflix's.

01:24:08.000 And she was like, you promised, so you lied to me.

01:24:11.000 And I'm like, mom, I can't be like, hey, don't air the first one.

01:24:16.000 She's like, well, that means you lied to me, so I'm never coming to a show again, and I'm never going to do anything related to any of your stuff.

01:24:23.000 And I go, promise?

01:24:24.000 I would love if you never came to a show again.

01:24:28.000 Do you know how much of a fucking burden it is to have to babysit when you're there?

01:24:31.000 I was talking to Shane Gillis about a bit he does where people are getting upset, people he knows getting upset about a bit.

01:24:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:24:37.000 And he's like, yeah, I'll stop doing that.

01:24:39.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:24:40.000 Shut up. 0.95

01:24:41.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:24:42.000 She found out, by the way, I was on Chrissy D. and Giannis' podcast the day the Pope died, or the day after.

01:24:50.000 I was in New York.

01:24:51.000 We're podcasting.

01:24:52.000 I was like, oh, because my mom's like hardcore Catholic. 0.93

01:24:56.000 And I was like, let's call her and just check on her.

01:25:00.000 And I go, we'll just try to see if maybe the Jews did it. 0.99

01:25:05.000 So.

01:25:07.000 I call her, I'm like, did you hear about the Pope?

01:25:09.000 And she's like, I am devastated, Tommy.

01:25:12.000 I go, I don't know what happened, if he was sick, if it was the Jews. 1.00

01:25:15.000 And she's like, what?

01:25:16.000 And like, we had to cover our mouths.

01:25:19.000 We had to cover our mouths and mute the phone.

01:25:23.000 She's like, she goes, this is the craziest call I've ever received.

01:25:27.000 The Pope died.

01:25:28.000 Do you think the Jews did it?

01:25:30.000 I'm like, I had to hang up the phone.

01:25:34.000 And then, like, a week later, she goes, I was on YouTube, and I find that you called me on a show to talk about this.

01:25:43.000 She's fighting!

01:25:44.000 She found it!

01:25:45.000 Found herself on YouTube!

01:25:46.000 She found the clip, yeah.

01:25:47.000 She found the endless well of us fucking with her on YouTube. 1.00

01:25:50.000 Oh my god, that's so funny.

01:25:52.000 Speaking of the Jews, have you seen fucking Kanye's new song? 0.99

01:25:56.000 Bro.

01:25:57.000 What is...

01:25:57.000 What?

01:25:58.000 Here's the thing.

01:25:59.000 What?

01:26:00.000 First of all...

01:26:01.000 Kind of catchy.

01:26:02.000 Well, that's the problem with it.

01:26:03.000 That's the problem.

01:26:04.000 It's like, the guy from production, like, he's never lost a step.

01:26:09.000 He can make a beat.

01:26:10.000 He can, like, he's so talented.

01:26:12.000 He's a genius.

01:26:12.000 He's a talented producer, man.

01:26:14.000 I do think it's like, when, first of all, I think people are kind of done asking him questions, because most of the shit he puts out is, like, self-release kind of commentary or thoughts.

01:26:24.000 Because he's saying just fucking, you know.

01:26:27.000 It's the craziest thing I've ever seen.

01:26:29.000 But there is a thing where that song is like, what are you doing, dude?

01:26:34.000 Like, what are you doing, for real?

01:26:36.000 It's the ultimate pushing back?

01:26:37.000 Yeah, I guess.

01:26:38.000 But there is, like, I think I have a pretty, you know...

01:26:44.000 Let things go kind of vibe to me.

01:26:46.000 Obviously.

01:26:47.000 Your fucking show.

01:26:49.000 Your show's ridiculous.

01:26:50.000 It's a ridiculous show.

01:26:51.000 And I've always been like, yeah, say whatever you're going to say.

01:26:53.000 But I do think making a catchy song about that, I'm like, what are you doing, man?

01:26:58.000 At a minimum, you're just going to get more people that think it's cool to say Heil Hitler.

01:27:04.000 That's at the minimum.

01:27:06.000 Well, I think that's part of the program.

01:27:08.000 Yeah.

01:27:09.000 Part of what he's trying to do.

01:27:10.000 But I mean, is that cool to do?

01:27:12.000 I guess if you're like, well, it's fun to troll the masses and get them to do that.

01:27:16.000 Okay.

01:27:17.000 But what I'm saying is that, like, at a minimum, you're going to get less educated people to go like, this is a fun thing to say.

01:27:24.000 And you're like, I mean, is that good?

01:27:27.000 You really want people just walking around being like, you know, it's tight, man.

01:27:33.000 Fucking insane.

01:27:34.000 It's crazy.

01:27:35.000 It is crazy.

01:27:36.000 But it's also kind of a sign of the times.

01:27:38.000 I guess.

01:27:40.000 This is a chaotic world we're living in.

01:27:43.000 Yeah.

01:27:43.000 And it's like, okay, this kind of highlights the benefits.

01:27:49.000 I mean, I want to say this, like, carefully.

01:27:51.000 Because I don't want to think any...

01:27:52.000 I want to say real clearly.

01:27:54.000 I don't support people saying that.

01:27:56.000 I don't think it's a good thing to say.

01:27:58.000 No.

01:27:58.000 I don't say it.

01:27:59.000 I certainly don't think...

01:28:00.000 I don't think any racism is good.

01:28:05.000 I don't think anti-Semitism is good.

01:28:07.000 I don't think anti-Christianity is good.

01:28:11.000 I don't think Asian hate is good. 0.97

01:28:13.000 I don't think anything is good.

01:28:14.000 But there's a benefit to just letting people talk.

01:28:19.000 Like, let people say whatever the fuck they want to say, even if it sucks.

01:28:22.000 This is the benefit of Twitter.

01:28:25.000 But this is also the bad part.

01:28:27.000 It's like the fucking song has so many millions of hits on Twitter.

01:28:30.000 It's been banned from every platform.

01:28:32.000 But is it good to ban things from platforms, or is it better to let it be out there and let people talk about it?

01:28:40.000 Because if you ban it, then people want to hear it more.

01:28:43.000 That's true.

01:28:43.000 And then it becomes more popular, and then it kind of supports what he says, which is that there's this concerted effort if you talk about...

01:28:51.000 Jewish people, that they're going to remove you from everything, remove you from banking, which is what he's saying. 1.00

01:28:56.000 They run everything.

01:28:57.000 So if they didn't, like if it was just you were talking shit about Puerto Ricans, look what happened to Tony.

01:29:03.000 Nothing.

01:29:03.000 Yeah.

01:29:03.000 He's doing great.

01:29:04.000 Yeah.

01:29:05.000 You know what I mean?

01:29:05.000 Like if there's certain people that you're allowed to pick on and make jokes about or mock or say something and you...

01:29:16.000 You can get away with it.

01:29:17.000 Yeah.

01:29:17.000 Well, I think he's made his point.

01:29:18.000 I think we all get it now.

01:29:20.000 It's never going to end.

01:29:20.000 But how does it end?

01:29:22.000 This is the question.

01:29:22.000 When I was watching that song, first of all, I was by myself when I first saw the song.

01:29:27.000 I was like, what is this?

01:29:29.000 Yeah.

01:29:29.000 Like, no way.

01:29:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:30.000 I was like, no way.

01:29:32.000 No way.

01:29:33.000 And I'm watching it on my phone.

01:29:34.000 I'm like, yo.

01:29:35.000 And then my first thought was, how does this end?

01:29:39.000 Because this ends.

01:29:40.000 This is going to end.

01:29:42.000 There's going to come a time where they're going to realize, like, this is a problem.

01:29:45.000 Yeah.

01:29:46.000 So how does it end?

01:29:46.000 Does it end in assassination?

01:29:48.000 Does it end in...

01:29:49.000 There's definitely people that want to kill him.

01:29:51.000 Financial ruin?

01:29:52.000 Yeah.

01:29:52.000 I don't know what his financial situation is.

01:29:54.000 I know that, like, there's been all these...

01:29:56.000 Over the last five years, there's been times where, like, his, you know...

01:30:01.000 Net worth has been reported at, like, such a crazy amount.

01:30:04.000 And then I remember, like, funds were frozen.

01:30:07.000 And he was like, I don't have anything.

01:30:08.000 And then it was, like, all back.

01:30:09.000 I don't know what his financial situation is.

01:30:11.000 Well, they can't steal your money.

01:30:12.000 Yeah.

01:30:13.000 But they can debank you.

01:30:14.000 Yeah.

01:30:15.000 Where no one will bank with you, basically.

01:30:16.000 Right.

01:30:16.000 So it's like, how does that work?

01:30:18.000 Like, where do you get your ATM card?

01:30:20.000 Yeah.

01:30:21.000 Is it from the Bank of fucking Portugal?

01:30:23.000 Like, what do you have to do?

01:30:24.000 Like, how does that work?

01:30:25.000 You know what I thought about when I was watching that video?

01:30:27.000 I was like, how do you get...

01:30:30.000 I don't know, however many actors.

01:30:32.000 That's easy.

01:30:32.000 That's the easy part.

01:30:33.000 I think it's crazy.

01:30:34.000 I think a lot of people would be like, what?

01:30:36.000 Oh, that's the easy part.

01:30:37.000 You put out a casting call in LA, everyone's soulless.

01:30:39.000 They have no fucking soul.

01:30:41.000 Nuts.

01:30:42.000 They just want to get famous.

01:30:43.000 You're going to do a project with Kanye?

01:30:44.000 Okay, let's go.

01:30:46.000 Let's do it.

01:30:46.000 What do I have to say?

01:30:47.000 Also, I'm just acting.

01:30:48.000 Just like that guy in Inglourious Basterds wasn't really a Nazi.

01:30:51.000 Right.

01:30:52.000 I'm not really a Nazi.

01:30:53.000 Listen, man, I got to do what I got to do.

01:30:55.000 I got kids to feed.

01:30:56.000 Yeah.

01:30:56.000 It's nuts.

01:30:57.000 It's pretty nuts.

01:30:58.000 Look, he's super talented, man.

01:31:00.000 One of my thoughts after hearing that song was like, man, I wish he would release this song with a different hook.

01:31:09.000 Yeah, it's not going to happen.

01:31:11.000 No, I know he's not going to, but that's what I...

01:31:13.000 One of my thoughts was, I was like, man, I wish he would...

01:31:16.000 It's so crazy.

01:31:17.000 It's so crazy because his last album before that was a banger.

01:31:21.000 It's like he came out of the gate...

01:31:24.000 Showing people that he's still got it.

01:31:26.000 Like, yeah, you might have pulled me off all these platforms.

01:31:29.000 You might have debanked me.

01:31:31.000 You might have taken away my Yeezy deal with Adidas, but damn, I still got it.

01:31:35.000 And that one was released everywhere, right?

01:31:38.000 Yeah.

01:31:38.000 Oh, man, that's in the Spotify playlist that we play in the green room all the time.

01:31:43.000 There's some fucking killer songs in that, man.

01:31:46.000 Yeah, he's...

01:31:47.000 Classics.

01:31:48.000 Classics.

01:31:49.000 He's got so many bangers.

01:31:51.000 But...

01:31:51.000 You know, this one, he's just like letting people, I guess in his eye, I mean, I don't know.

01:31:57.000 I haven't talked to him about it, but I guess he's like, I'll do whatever the fuck I want.

01:32:00.000 I'm going to say whatever the fuck I want.

01:32:02.000 Yeah, clearly.

01:32:03.000 So I'm going to do the one thing that you're never, ever, ever supposed to do.

01:32:07.000 I'm going to make a catchy song with Heil Hitler. 0.98

01:32:10.000 Yeah.

01:32:12.000 It's just like, whoa!

01:32:14.000 That is the ultimate, like, I'll do whatever the fuck I want.

01:32:16.000 Yeah, and you had to say, like, in the casting, there's, like, a description of all the stuff if you want to be a part of this production.

01:32:22.000 Like, you have to be comfortable with swastikas. 0.99

01:32:24.000 That was in the...

01:32:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:26.000 He's got a diamond-encrusted swastika. 0.74

01:32:28.000 That's also insane, dude.

01:32:30.000 By the way, you know a Jew sold him that. 0.98

01:32:33.000 Probably.

01:32:35.000 Or at least applied to diamonds.

01:32:37.000 Where'd the diamonds come from?

01:32:38.000 That's insane.

01:32:39.000 The Jewish people have been controlling diamonds for a long time. 0.99

01:32:42.000 It's insane.

01:32:43.000 They're very smart about the diamonds because the diamonds aren't even really valuable.

01:32:46.000 You know what's fucking crazy in jewelry?

01:32:50.000 Because see, this is one thing I don't trust about.

01:32:52.000 There's certain businesses where you're like, I don't know what I'm looking at.

01:32:54.000 Right.

01:32:55.000 So like a car, for instance, you have the reference.

01:33:01.000 To go, like, how much should this cost?

01:33:03.000 Right.

01:33:04.000 Right?

01:33:04.000 Right.

01:33:05.000 So, like, it gives you some personal...

01:33:06.000 Right.

01:33:06.000 You see a Lamborghini, you know, that's like a $300,000 car.

01:33:10.000 And you can, like, check with people.

01:33:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:12.000 But, like, a piece of jewelry?

01:33:14.000 Right.

01:33:14.000 This guy who I bought a watch from was like, this jewelry is like, you know, this ring or whatever.

01:33:23.000 It's like, whatever, $50,000 or something.

01:33:25.000 I was like, oh, wow.

01:33:26.000 He's like, do you want it?

01:33:27.000 I was like, I don't know.

01:33:32.000 And then like a month or two later, he sent me the same thing.

01:33:36.000 He's like, I'm trying to move this now.

01:33:39.000 Do you want it for like $20?

01:33:41.000 What?

01:33:42.000 And I was like, it's $20?

01:33:45.000 He's like, yeah, I'm just trying to move it now.

01:33:47.000 What does that mean?

01:33:48.000 What do you own on it?

01:33:50.000 What's it really cost?

01:33:51.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:33:52.000 And so you kind of go like, wait a minute.

01:33:54.000 So I was going to pay $30,000 more for it?

01:33:59.000 That would just go to you?

01:34:00.000 That's so gross, right?

01:34:01.000 It is gross.

01:34:02.000 I would never trust that guy again.

01:34:03.000 It just really turned me off, man.

01:34:04.000 Well, you know, it's really kooky.

01:34:06.000 Fake diamonds that are real diamonds.

01:34:09.000 Girls don't want them. 1.00

01:34:10.000 Right.

01:34:11.000 I was reading this whole thing about the demand and supply for lab-created diamonds that are absolutely diamonds.

01:34:19.000 They're not fake diamonds.

01:34:20.000 It's a real diamond.

01:34:22.000 But it's not a diamond that's pulled out of the ground by slaves.

01:34:26.000 It's just lab generated.

01:34:27.000 Yeah, it's not like a blood diamond.

01:34:30.000 And girls are like, I don't want that shit. 1.00

01:34:31.000 I don't want that.

01:34:32.000 It's not real.

01:34:33.000 I'll know it's not real.

01:34:35.000 I want someone to suffer first.

01:34:37.000 Well, it's not that.

01:34:38.000 What it is is the same thing as not wanting a fake Rolex, even though it's, like, physically the exact same thing as a Rolex.

01:34:45.000 Yeah.

01:34:45.000 But that's at least a brand...

01:34:48.000 Like, if you're a person who loves engineering and craftsmanship...

01:34:51.000 Yeah.

01:34:51.000 Like, I don't want to, you know...

01:34:54.000 Someone to rip off someone's work.

01:34:56.000 Yeah.

01:34:57.000 Like, that's art.

01:34:58.000 Like, your watch.

01:34:59.000 That's a piece of art.

01:35:01.000 It's a piece of art.

01:35:02.000 Yeah.

01:35:02.000 So it makes sense you wouldn't want a fake piece of art.

01:35:05.000 But a diamond is just...

01:35:07.000 It's just elements compressed over time.

01:35:11.000 Yeah.

01:35:11.000 And they figured out how to do that where they make perfect diamonds.

01:35:15.000 Fraction of the cost, I'm assuming, right?

01:35:17.000 Yeah, but the demand is super low.

01:35:19.000 Yeah.

01:35:19.000 Wow.

01:35:20.000 99% less.

01:35:23.000 99?

01:35:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:35:25.000 Oh, yeah, in some cases.

01:35:27.000 Especially the big ones.

01:35:29.000 Yeah, I was going to say, you get like a three-carat diamond.

01:35:32.000 Yeah, right, right, right.

01:35:33.000 The ladies don't want them. 1.00

01:35:34.000 Yeah.

01:35:35.000 I'm in a real one.

01:35:37.000 It's so crazy.

01:35:38.000 I don't know.

01:35:38.000 I feel cheap.

01:35:40.000 That's one of the things that I feel so...

01:35:42.000 Do you think I'm cheap?

01:35:44.000 They don't want that shit, dude.

01:35:46.000 She finds out that what you got her was like the...

01:35:50.000 The shittier version?

01:35:51.000 The lab-created, but it's not even shittier.

01:35:53.000 That's the thing, it's like lab-created diamonds are Actual diamonds.

01:35:56.000 It's literal alchemy.

01:35:58.000 Remember in the old days, they were trying to figure out a way to use all these chemicals to make gold?

01:36:05.000 That was what alchemists are for.

01:36:06.000 Kings would spend insane amounts of money on these alchemists to try to get these alchemists to figure out how to manufacture.

01:36:12.000 I think I can make gold for you, sire.

01:36:15.000 I need a laboratory.

01:36:17.000 And these dudes are sniffing fucking mercury all day and dying young.

01:36:23.000 It's the craziest thing.

01:36:25.000 To spend on.

01:36:26.000 But imagine if the lady's like, no, you made that gold in a lab. 1.00

01:36:30.000 I don't want it.

01:36:31.000 I don't want it.

01:36:32.000 I want real gold that's from Africa that came out of the ground. 1.00

01:36:37.000 Yeah, we just want the real thing.

01:36:38.000 I want the real stuff that they picked out of the river.

01:36:40.000 I want the real stuff they got from Alaska.

01:36:43.000 I want the real stuff.

01:36:45.000 But it's just gold, baby.

01:36:46.000 It's gold.

01:36:46.000 It's just an element.

01:36:48.000 Who cares where it's from?

01:36:50.000 No.

01:36:51.000 I want stuff that's forged inside of a sun.

01:36:54.000 How many women out there do you think to rock something that they're so proud of that if they go to get it assessed, it has to happen all the time. 1.00

01:37:02.000 It happened to my family.

01:37:03.000 It did?

01:37:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:37:05.000 I don't want to say who.

01:37:05.000 Yeah.

01:37:06.000 But someone relative, not like close, but...

01:37:09.000 Broke up with the guy and found out that it was a cubic zirconium.

01:37:13.000 That's hilarious.

01:37:14.000 LOL.

01:37:15.000 That's very funny.

01:37:16.000 But perfect for that guy.

01:37:17.000 I was like, that guy's such a piece of shit.

01:37:19.000 I knew it.

01:37:20.000 I could have told you it was a fake diamond.

01:37:22.000 That's so funny.

01:37:24.000 I laughed so hard.

01:37:25.000 Yeah.

01:37:25.000 So she took it to the jeweler.

01:37:26.000 Yes.

01:37:27.000 Well, she's like, I gotta break up with this guy.

01:37:29.000 I don't have any money.

01:37:32.000 She's living with this shyster, this fucking guy who's like a just... 0.84

01:37:35.000 Dirtbag, you know, but had some money, but not real money.

01:37:39.000 Just like a bullshit artist.

01:37:40.000 Yeah.

01:37:41.000 Just like, oh, he's a bullshit artist.

01:37:42.000 I gotta leave him.

01:37:43.000 Oh, fuck.

01:37:45.000 Fuck.

01:37:45.000 Like, I'm gonna, you know, I'll have ten grand.

01:37:47.000 Yeah.

01:37:48.000 I'll sell this right.

01:37:48.000 They're like, I'll give you a hundred bucks.

01:37:50.000 It's worth nothing.

01:37:51.000 They didn't want any of it.

01:37:52.000 It's not worth anything.

01:37:53.000 That's amazing.

01:37:55.000 Fake diamonds worth zero money.

01:37:57.000 Zero Alex.

01:37:57.000 Looks exactly like, like if you're in a party.

01:38:00.000 Yeah.

01:38:00.000 If you go to a party, if you're a woman and you have this beautiful, big-ass fucking rock and you walk in and everybody's like, oh, look at her ring.

01:38:07.000 Yeah.

01:38:07.000 Oh my God, it's sparkling.

01:38:08.000 Nobody knows.

01:38:08.000 Nobody has any idea that it's fake.

01:38:10.000 No one knows.

01:38:10.000 I mean, literally, it's, again, it's not a fake Ferrari.

01:38:14.000 Well, that was the thing, Chad Ochocinco, the football player, because like a lot of the athletes, they rock diamond earrings and stuff.

01:38:21.000 He was like, he was like, yeah, I wear fakes.

01:38:25.000 He's like, especially because like if I'm, Whether it was on the field or going out, he was like, I have a real one at home.

01:38:30.000 I was like, I go out, I wear the fake one.

01:38:32.000 Well, he saved a lot of money.

01:38:34.000 A lot of money.

01:38:34.000 He was also always very on top of not overspending.

01:38:38.000 Very smart dude.

01:38:39.000 Very smart dude.

01:38:39.000 For everything except fighting.

01:38:42.000 He has this very bizarre idea.

01:38:45.000 Like him and Shannon Sharp argue all the time.

01:38:47.000 This bizarre idea that he could fight MMA guys and beat them.

01:38:50.000 Oh, that's crazy.

01:38:51.000 That's crazy.

01:38:52.000 Well, it's the reason why he was such a great athlete.

01:38:54.000 Yeah.

01:38:55.000 Confidence.

01:38:56.000 Crazy confidence.

01:38:57.000 It's just unstoppable belief in yourself, which, listen, he's such a great athlete that if he did compete in MMA, he probably would be a world champion.

01:39:05.000 Because he's got that, like if Michael Jordan decided he was going to, if MMA existed when Michael Jordan was alive, he'd probably be the light heavyweight champion of the world.

01:39:14.000 He'd probably figure out a way to fuck everybody else up.

01:39:16.000 And also like this drive, this championship mindset.

01:39:20.000 It's just rare humans that choose to focus on Football, or soccer, or basketball, or whatever it is.

01:39:28.000 The thing they get obsessed with.

01:39:29.000 But if they put the same amount of energy from the same amount, at an early enough age, there's certain barriers that cannot be overcome, and one of them is physical maturity.

01:39:40.000 Once you're 36 years old, if you start boxing at 36 years old, I don't care what, you're not going to be a world champion.

01:39:46.000 It's too hard.

01:39:48.000 Is that what you saw with Francis Ngannou when he fought Anthony Joshua?

01:39:52.000 Yeah.

01:39:53.000 That's the difference.

01:39:54.000 You can't just jump on in and fight like an Olympic gold medalist who's been doing it his whole life.

01:40:00.000 He's gonna do things to you.

01:40:01.000 You're not gonna know what he's doing and he's gonna crack you.

01:40:05.000 But the reason why he thinks that...

01:40:09.000 Ocho Cinco thinks that is because he was a fucking monster athlete.

01:40:13.000 Yeah.

01:40:14.000 He knows how hard he works.

01:40:16.000 He knows how gifted he is.

01:40:17.000 Yeah.

01:40:18.000 But he just thinks, but if, you know, you put him in there with a guy, like a Dreckus Duplessis or something like that, he'd get fucking mauled.

01:40:26.000 No, he's thinking, yeah, because he was a fucking precision route runner.

01:40:30.000 Great.

01:40:30.000 When someone's mounting you, drilling.

01:40:33.000 Elbows in your eye socket.

01:40:34.000 I know.

01:40:34.000 It doesn't matter.

01:40:35.000 It doesn't matter.

01:40:36.000 You don't know how to block them.

01:40:38.000 You don't know how to stop the rear naked choke. 0.99

01:40:40.000 You don't know how to stop the trip.

01:40:42.000 You don't know which way to roll on a heel hook.

01:40:45.000 They're like, I'll figure that shit out.

01:40:47.000 No, you won't.

01:40:48.000 You're going to get your knees ripped apart.

01:40:50.000 You're going to get knocked unconscious.

01:40:52.000 It's like reality.

01:40:54.000 But I love the fact that people think that way.

01:40:57.000 There's a lot that think like that.

01:41:00.000 Outspoken.

01:41:00.000 It's my mentality, bro.

01:41:01.000 My mentality is different.

01:41:04.000 I understand.

01:41:05.000 I have that stupid part of my brain, too, but I'm also smart enough to go, hey, fuckface. 0.99

01:41:09.000 I have two people in my head.

01:41:11.000 I have the general who tells me what to do, and then I have the soldier that's like, wait a minute.

01:41:18.000 This is going to get me killed.

01:41:21.000 I'm not running with a hand grenade and all these bullets flying my way.

01:41:25.000 And you know enough, seen enough fighting to know.

01:41:28.000 What your limits are.

01:41:30.000 Especially with martial arts is the big one.

01:41:33.000 It's like you don't know, man.

01:41:34.000 There's little tiny dudes that can choke you to death and you have no idea.

01:41:39.000 In your mind, you're like, they can't do shit to me.

01:41:41.000 Motherfucker, I could bench 300 pounds.

01:41:43.000 The next thing you know, arm drag.

01:41:44.000 He's got your back.

01:41:45.000 He's got your body triangle on you.

01:41:50.000 You don't want to tap out, but you have to.

01:41:52.000 You have to.

01:41:53.000 You're dead.

01:41:54.000 It's over.

01:41:55.000 That's why it's good.

01:41:55.000 It's good to do, like, to even try.

01:41:59.000 I've done a little bit of boxing, striking, I've done a little bit of jiu-jitsu.

01:42:04.000 It's great to have the awareness.

01:42:07.000 It is.

01:42:08.000 It's a nice wake-up call.

01:42:10.000 Yeah.

01:42:10.000 When I first started doing jujitsu, I was already like a very accomplished striker.

01:42:14.000 I was really good at striking.

01:42:15.000 So I was like, I know how to fight.

01:42:17.000 And then I went to jujitsu class.

01:42:19.000 I got my ass kicked every day.

01:42:21.000 Yeah.

01:42:21.000 I was like, this is crazy.

01:42:23.000 I was so wrong.

01:42:24.000 I have this completely distorted idea of my abilities.

01:42:27.000 Yeah.

01:42:28.000 Yeah, it really humbles you, right?

01:42:30.000 A lot of people walking around out there, especially men, just think they know how to fight.

01:42:34.000 It's a terrible thing to find out on YouTube.

01:42:38.000 To see people find out that you don't really know how to fight, you just think you're going to bluff your way.

01:42:44.000 I think there's the male thing.

01:42:46.000 Men think they know how to fight, that they're funny, that they fuck good, and that they can drive.

01:42:52.000 Those are the four things.

01:42:54.000 I can do all this shit.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, delusions.

01:42:57.000 There's like manly things you don't want someone to be better than you at.

01:43:00.000 Yeah.

01:43:01.000 And you get delusional things.

01:43:03.000 Those four are the ones that like come up the most, I think.

01:43:05.000 Pool's another one.

01:43:07.000 Shoot pool?

01:43:07.000 Yeah, a lot of guys pretend they're good at pool.

01:43:09.000 Yeah.

01:43:09.000 I've had a bunch of dudes say they play good pool.

01:43:12.000 I'm like, really?

01:43:13.000 Let's find out.

01:43:14.000 Let's find out.

01:43:15.000 Do any ever surprise you that they are pretty good?

01:43:17.000 Never.

01:43:18.000 Never?

01:43:18.000 Not one.

01:43:19.000 Not one?

01:43:20.000 Nope.

01:43:21.000 Wow.

01:43:21.000 That's actually...

01:43:22.000 I thought you would find at least a couple.

01:43:24.000 Nope.

01:43:25.000 So they're always like...

01:43:26.000 No, usually people that are really good at pool, they'll tell you.

01:43:29.000 Like, oh yeah, I used to play a lot.

01:43:31.000 I played a lot of tournaments.

01:43:32.000 I did this or that.

01:43:33.000 Like, where'd you play?

01:43:34.000 And they're like, oh, I played at Chelsea Billiards in New York City.

01:43:37.000 Oh, okay, okay, okay.

01:43:39.000 Did you do a lot of tournaments?

01:43:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:43:41.000 I did a lot of gambling.

01:43:42.000 It was fucking me up in high school.

01:43:43.000 Like, okay.

01:43:44.000 I get it.

01:43:45.000 You know what you're talking about.

01:43:47.000 But the guy's like, yeah, man, I'm fucking good at pool.

01:43:49.000 I'm like, are you?

01:43:50.000 Where do you play?

01:43:51.000 It's like going bars, mostly.

01:43:53.000 Right.

01:43:54.000 So it's one of two things happening.

01:43:55.000 Either they're trying to sucker you into a game, and they are really good at pool, or they're delusional.

01:44:01.000 And every time I've ever experienced it, it's delusional.

01:44:04.000 Wow.

01:44:04.000 There's a lot of people, dude.

01:44:06.000 Like, famous people.

01:44:07.000 Really?

01:44:07.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:44:08.000 A bunch.

01:44:09.000 Yeah.

01:44:09.000 They're like, I'm pretty good.

01:44:10.000 Bring them over.

01:44:11.000 I don't want to say names, but bring them over onto the table, and they're like, what the fuck?

01:44:13.000 Oh, you have to tell me these names after.

01:44:15.000 I'll tell you afterwards.

01:44:16.000 Yeah.

01:44:18.000 It's fun.

01:44:20.000 It's fun to see somebody.

01:44:21.000 Yeah, it's fun.

01:44:22.000 But, you know, it's one of those things that people like, like a lot of men want to think they're good at poker.

01:44:28.000 Like, oh, I can read people.

01:44:30.000 Like, sure.

01:44:31.000 Oh, yeah, that's another one.

01:44:31.000 Dudes think they're good at playing cards.

01:44:32.000 Poker's a great one.

01:44:33.000 Ari Shafir, when we were at the store, Ari for years made a living playing poker. 0.98

01:44:40.000 He made a living doing that?

01:44:42.000 100%.

01:44:43.000 He would go and play in the bicycle club and all those.

01:44:46.000 So he was pretty good.

01:44:47.000 Ari was very good at poker. 1.00

01:44:49.000 But he would tell you, like, all these people think they're going to play.

01:44:52.000 They don't know what the fuck they're going to do.

01:44:53.000 Because they play stupid.

01:44:54.000 Like, he's just intelligent and calculated.

01:44:57.000 Yeah.

01:44:57.000 He knows.

01:44:58.000 You know who's really good?

01:44:59.000 Who?

01:45:00.000 Phillip Lee and his wife.

01:45:01.000 Oh, really?

01:45:01.000 They play in tournaments.

01:45:02.000 Oh, wow.

01:45:03.000 Margarita and Phillip, they play in tournaments.

01:45:05.000 So is Bruce Buffer.

01:45:06.000 Bruce Buffer played in the World Series of Poker.

01:45:08.000 I never got into poker.

01:45:10.000 And I remember when I was working in post-production, like in the early 2000s, it was starting to get more and more.

01:45:17.000 Now it's, I think, immensely popular.

01:45:19.000 But there was like an uptick when they started to televise it.

01:45:22.000 You know what it was?

01:45:22.000 You know what made it uptick?

01:45:23.000 No.

01:45:24.000 You could see the cards.

01:45:25.000 Went at home.

01:45:26.000 You know who's got what.

01:45:28.000 You know who's got what.

01:45:29.000 Right.

01:45:29.000 So you're watching it play out.

01:45:31.000 That's a huge element.

01:45:33.000 That's on home, because Anthony Giordano, my friend from the UFC, who does all the UFC direction, he's done my comedy specials too.

01:45:42.000 He explained it to me.

01:45:44.000 He's like, "The moment you could see those cards, it changed the game." Because now it made it exciting for people to watch.

01:45:48.000 Because you're watching people play poker, you don't know what anybody's hand is until the end.

01:45:52.000 This is stupid.

01:45:53.000 But if there's like, you've got a camera...

01:45:55.000 So as they fan open their cards, there's a camera under the table.

01:45:59.000 And it shows you what they got.

01:46:00.000 And it shows you what everybody's got.

01:46:02.000 That's more exciting.

01:46:03.000 That makes a lot of sense.

01:46:04.000 Oh yeah, it's way more fun.

01:46:06.000 Dude, I don't even know how to play poker.

01:46:08.000 And I would accept invites to poker games.

01:46:12.000 And what happens is, you start playing with how you think to play.

01:46:17.000 And people start, when they don't know you, they're like, this guy.

01:46:20.000 He's either fucking really ballsy and good, or he's a retard. 1.00

01:46:26.000 And that's what would happen to me, is a couple games in, people were like, okay, yeah, this guy.

01:46:31.000 And then pretty soon they're like, do you play poker?

01:46:33.000 And I was like, I'm not really sure what we're doing here.

01:46:36.000 They're like, get the fuck out of here, man.

01:46:39.000 Well, they also want to rob you.

01:46:40.000 That's a big thing, too, because you're a big fish.

01:46:43.000 Well, I wasn't at all then.

01:46:45.000 No, no, no.

01:46:46.000 I was just like...

01:46:47.000 Going, like, with people from work, you know?

01:46:50.000 I was just, like, doing it socially.

01:46:51.000 That's got to be a thing where a lot of people, like, that are really wealthy, that get into gambling.

01:46:56.000 Oh.

01:46:57.000 Be a target?

01:46:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:46:58.000 Oh, yeah, I'm sure.

01:46:59.000 Well, that's a big thing with pool players, too, is occasionally poker players.

01:47:05.000 Because poker players, a lot of them, they gamble on a bunch of different stuff.

01:47:09.000 You know, a lot of them are just gambling addicts.

01:47:11.000 Totally.

01:47:12.000 And so there was always a bunch of poker players that would play pool, and they were kind of okay at pool, but they would get insane spots.

01:47:20.000 Like, say, I knew this guy that was playing one pocket for like $100,000 a set.

01:47:27.000 And one pocket is a weird game where a pool table has six pockets.

01:47:32.000 Yeah.

01:47:32.000 And so, like, if we were playing in one pocket, you would have this pocket on the right, I'd have this pocket on the left.

01:47:38.000 And there's 15 balls.

01:47:40.000 And so, all I have to do is make eight balls into my hole, and I win the game.

01:47:47.000 Okay.

01:47:47.000 Normally.

01:47:48.000 But if you don't know how to play, and I'm trying to sucker you into playing, I go, okay, listen.

01:47:55.000 I'll spot you on 15-ball game.

01:47:57.000 I'll spot you 13 balls.

01:48:00.000 Thirteen.

01:48:01.000 Thirteen balls.

01:48:01.000 You just have to get two.

01:48:02.000 We're going to play for big money.

01:48:04.000 We're going to play for...

01:48:07.000 Race to five for $100,000.

01:48:10.000 So that means a game of one pocket takes a long time.

01:48:14.000 It's not like a game of nine ball.

01:48:15.000 A game of nine ball, you could be done two minutes.

01:48:18.000 You just run the rack.

01:48:19.000 Like a good player.

01:48:21.000 Because anywhere you can go.

01:48:22.000 Yeah.

01:48:22.000 But in this case, you have to go to one pocket.

01:48:25.000 Exactly.

01:48:25.000 One pocket.

01:48:26.000 And you can't leave a shot.

01:48:28.000 Because if you're playing a good player, so like if...

01:48:32.000 You were playing...

01:48:34.000 Okay, me.

01:48:35.000 Let's say me, because I'm what's called a B player.

01:48:39.000 I can't beat pros, but compared to regular people, oh my god, how do you play so good?

01:48:45.000 Regular people don't know how to play.

01:48:47.000 That's why it is.

01:48:48.000 But if I played a pro, if I played my friend Fedor Gorst, who's world champion, I would probably need...

01:49:00.000 Out of 15 balls, I'd probably need 11 balls to have a chance.

01:49:04.000 And even then, I'm probably getting robbed.

01:49:06.000 Really?

01:49:07.000 Yeah.

01:49:08.000 Because he's just gonna...

01:49:09.000 He's gonna figure out a way to never leave me a shot, and then...

01:49:12.000 He's going to calculate when he has a shot, can he open up the stack, and then run all the other balls.

01:49:18.000 Because you don't break like you break with eight ball when you break with one pocket.

01:49:21.000 It's a very calculated game.

01:49:22.000 And it's a big gambling game.

01:49:24.000 The most money gets spent on...

01:49:26.000 Like, I was just watching online the other day a game.

01:49:28.000 They were playing for $240,000.

01:49:31.000 Yeah.

01:49:32.000 It was a match for $240,000.

01:49:35.000 I think it was a three-day match.

01:49:36.000 I've got to watch one of these.

01:49:38.000 The pressure's insane.

01:49:40.000 But this guy, Justin Bergman, who's like one of the best players in the world, was playing this guy and he gave him a crazy spot.

01:49:46.000 I think it was...

01:49:47.000 It might have been like...

01:49:51.000 It was something crazy like 10-6 or something like that.

01:49:55.000 Where he had to make 10 balls, the other guy had to make 6 balls.

01:49:59.000 And the guy was a good player too.

01:50:00.000 And so...

01:50:02.000 So this is more like chess almost, it feels like, right?

01:50:05.000 Because you're calculating.

01:50:06.000 You have to risk reward because, say, you might have a long spot in your hole, and if you make it, you have all these balls and you can run out the game.

01:50:17.000 But if you miss, you're selling out, and this guy only has to make six balls, and he might be able to make six balls.

01:50:21.000 And it's any six.

01:50:22.000 Exactly, any six.

01:50:23.000 Wow.

01:50:24.000 It's just, any ball just has to be in your hole in any order.

01:50:28.000 It's not a thing like, it's not like a rotation game, like one through nine or eight ball where you're like, I got stripes, you got solids.

01:50:34.000 It's just, anything goes.

01:50:36.000 Any ball in that hole.

01:50:37.000 And like the really, really good players can spot you that much and you still don't have a chance.

01:50:42.000 You don't have a chance.

01:50:42.000 And there's really good players, like there's a guy named Tony Chohan who's real famous.

01:50:47.000 His nickname's T-Rex.

01:50:48.000 And he's like a big time money gambler.

01:50:52.000 And there's another guy named Scott Frost who's a friend of mine.

01:50:53.000 Yeah.

01:50:54.000 Who's like one of the biggest one pocket players of all time.

01:50:58.000 Guarantee you Scott Frost has gambled over the course of his life.

01:51:02.000 Millions of dollars have changed hands with Scott Frost playing one pocket.

01:51:07.000 Yeah.

01:51:08.000 He's like one of the best one pocket players like literally ever.

01:51:11.000 And these guys are playing, you know, they'll meet up in Kentucky.

01:51:16.000 They'll have steak horses and then people on the rail.

01:51:19.000 So all the people that are watching are gambling as well.

01:51:23.000 So you might have a, you know, there might be a set that's being played for half a million dollars.

01:51:27.000 Fucking A. Yeah.

01:51:28.000 Like this one that I was watching, the Justin Bergman one, was $240,000 they were playing for.

01:51:33.000 Fuck.

01:51:34.000 Yeah.

01:51:35.000 And who knows how many people are gambling on the side.

01:51:36.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:51:37.000 It's generating a lot more.

01:51:39.000 Oh, it's crazy.

01:51:39.000 That's when you think about, like, I think it's easy to forget when you're just into, like, the game.

01:51:44.000 The amount of money that changes hands week to week with the NFL.

01:51:48.000 Oh, God.

01:51:49.000 Oh, my God, dude.

01:51:50.000 Oh, my God.

01:51:51.000 Billions.

01:51:52.000 Billions.

01:51:53.000 Has to be.

01:51:54.000 Has to be.

01:51:54.000 It is such a gambling machine.

01:51:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:51:57.000 And, like, the NFL kind of, like, goes, like, no, it's not.

01:52:03.000 It's about the gridiron.

01:52:05.000 But then they also got to the point where it's, like, you know, they couldn't ignore it.

01:52:10.000 Because then you have sponsorships, right, of, like, There's gambling sites.

01:52:15.000 We're the official gambling site.

01:52:17.000 So it's all intermingled now.

01:52:19.000 Listen, I'm all for you being able to do whatever the fuck you want to do.

01:52:23.000 I like it.

01:52:24.000 I don't like rules that regulate people's stupidity.

01:52:28.000 Be as dumb as you want.

01:52:29.000 If you want to do flips on your dirt bike, you should be able to do that.

01:52:33.000 So you should also be able to gamble your life away.

01:52:35.000 If you want to do that.

01:52:36.000 I don't think you should.

01:52:38.000 But I believe in...

01:52:42.000 I believe in Darwinism.

01:52:44.000 I believe you're supposed to let people, like, lose everything.

01:52:47.000 Yeah.

01:52:48.000 2024, $148.7 billion gambled.

01:52:54.000 That's interesting because that's what Doge found they spent on transgender animal studies, the exact amount.

01:53:00.000 No.

01:53:01.000 Bro, that's so much money.

01:53:04.000 $148 billion.

01:53:05.000 Three a week?

01:53:06.000 Listen, compared to what the United States government chews up every day, that's nothing.

01:53:10.000 No, that's true.

01:53:11.000 This is just the United States, too.

01:53:12.000 This doesn't include any other country.

01:53:13.000 That's so crazy.

01:53:15.000 And that's just football?

01:53:16.000 No, no.

01:53:17.000 It's all sports.

01:53:18.000 Oh, all sports.

01:53:19.000 It's got to be mostly football.

01:53:20.000 Yeah, that's a lot of football, dude.

01:53:21.000 Well, there's been a lot of scandals with the NBA, right?

01:53:24.000 Well, yeah, the...

01:53:26.000 Referees? 0.98

01:53:26.000 Shaving points? 0.98

01:53:27.000 Donahay, I think is his name.

01:53:29.000 That was nuts.

01:53:30.000 There's got to be a lot of those dirtbags out there. 0.99

01:53:32.000 Which totally makes sense.

01:53:34.000 And it's so funny, too, because the NBA, there's probably, like, in football, there's this thing that happens where, like, every single down you could call holding if you wanted to.

01:53:43.000 Holding just happens in every play, right?

01:53:45.000 Right.

01:53:46.000 Every play.

01:53:47.000 But what they...

01:53:48.000 Tend to call are egregious holds, meaning that the guy who's the defender is going past you, and you see the offensive guy's arm extended, pulling the jersey.

01:53:58.000 Like, I would call that.

01:54:00.000 Basketball, it is so ticky-tack what can be called and what can be ignored and what is ignored and what is called, and it's just like ref to ref.

01:54:10.000 Like, there's these clear, palming.

01:54:14.000 Traveling charges like you see it sometimes like what was that like right fingertips like graze the guys aren't and they fucking call the foul and then somebody gets hacked no foul right and it's just you kind of go well it's just like in the moment of the game and like if that guy wants to be dirty like the one was mm-hmm You can make some money.

01:54:35.000 Oh, my God.

01:54:36.000 Yeah, and if you're working for the mob or something like that, this is your job.

01:54:40.000 Your job is to shave points.

01:54:41.000 Your job is to make sure that these guys don't score as much.

01:54:45.000 They just keep calling the fouls on the other guys, sending you to the foul line.

01:54:49.000 God.

01:54:49.000 Keep that spread open.

01:54:51.000 It's really gross, man.

01:54:53.000 Yeah.

01:54:53.000 There's a real problem with it with MMA, too.

01:54:55.000 Is there really?

01:54:56.000 Yeah.

01:54:56.000 Yeah, there's a real problem with MMA.

01:55:00.000 Here's the problem with MMA gambling.

01:55:02.000 Incompetent judging.

01:55:03.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:55:04.000 Is it incompetent or is it...

01:55:06.000 Dirty.

01:55:07.000 Dirty.

01:55:07.000 With boxing, too.

01:55:08.000 Yeah.

01:55:09.000 We've never seen anything...

01:55:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:11.000 Because, like, even the layperson can watch someone beat the shit out of somebody and be like, this guy's fucking whooping this guy's ass.

01:55:19.000 And you see the decision go the other way and you're like, what happened?

01:55:22.000 There's been a few decisions.

01:55:23.000 Like that.

01:55:24.000 There was one lady in Vegas and she got barred from ever judging fights again. 1.00

01:55:29.000 There was a few fights that she was involved with.

01:55:32.000 Everybody was like, what the fuck?

01:55:33.000 And she was the common denominator.

01:55:36.000 I don't know if she's ever been charged.

01:55:37.000 I don't want to mention her name.

01:55:39.000 But I know that there was a real issue.

01:55:42.000 It was a real issue with world title fights.

01:55:44.000 Where people were like, how the fuck is this?

01:55:47.000 Because say if like...

01:55:51.000 Say it's Canelo Alvarez is fighting someone that you know he's gonna win.

01:55:55.000 You know he's gonna be.

01:55:56.000 But you can place a prop bet on it being a split decision.

01:56:02.000 Or a majority decision.

01:56:04.000 All you have to do is get one person to say it's a draw.

01:56:07.000 And that's it.

01:56:08.000 And like, look, he's gonna win.

01:56:09.000 He's gonna win.

01:56:10.000 He's gonna win either way.

01:56:11.000 But if I want to place a shit ton of money on this one thing, some dirty judge, Could score to draw.

01:56:22.000 Yeah.

01:56:22.000 And you just have to convince that dirty judge.

01:56:25.000 Like, just listen, doesn't matter.

01:56:26.000 You're not affecting this guy's career.

01:56:28.000 Yeah.

01:56:28.000 He's going to get the win.

01:56:29.000 No one's going to remember.

01:56:31.000 Just make it a majority decision.

01:56:33.000 Yeah.

01:56:34.000 And you just got to justify why you thought, I'm a big fan of defense.

01:56:38.000 Yeah.

01:56:38.000 I think the other guy just, like, blocked a lot of punches.

01:56:41.000 I thought it was great.

01:56:42.000 It's really, it's...

01:56:43.000 There's so many, I feel like, in combat sports where the judging is...

01:56:48.000 Because it's so subjective.

01:56:49.000 Yeah.

01:56:50.000 But it's just, for a fighter, the crazy thing is you lose half your purse.

01:56:54.000 Yeah.

01:56:55.000 Because you might get $100,000 to fight and then $100,000 to win.

01:57:00.000 And so if they hit you with a bullshit decision, you lost $100,000.

01:57:05.000 That's...

01:57:05.000 Because some hometown decision or some corruption.

01:57:09.000 Yeah.

01:57:10.000 It's really unique that you have a sport, when you think about it, where there's a subjective winner.

01:57:17.000 Right.

01:57:17.000 It's not like football.

01:57:18.000 Right.

01:57:18.000 We're like, this is the score.

01:57:19.000 Every time the score.

01:57:20.000 Yeah.

01:57:21.000 Basketball.

01:57:21.000 Ball goes in the net.

01:57:22.000 Score.

01:57:23.000 You could shave point.

01:57:24.000 You could bullshit.

01:57:25.000 But if you're playing Michael Jordan, he's going to score on you.

01:57:29.000 How are you going to stop him?

01:57:30.000 You're not going to stop him, right?

01:57:32.000 So the numbers he puts up are the numbers he puts up.

01:57:34.000 But in boxing and in MMA, remember when Roy Jones lost in the Olympics?

01:57:39.000 Do you remember that?

01:57:40.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:57:41.000 He lost the Olympics in Korea.

01:57:42.000 And he fucked that dude up.

01:57:44.000 He beat that dude from pillar to post.

01:57:48.000 100%.

01:57:49.000 It was nationalism.

01:57:50.000 It was like, it was in Korea.

01:57:52.000 Like, Koreans are very proud.

01:57:53.000 And they're like, he won.

01:57:54.000 Like, what?

01:57:55.000 Yeah.

01:57:55.000 Roy Jones Jr. in his prime in the Olympics.

01:57:59.000 I mean, not even in his prime yet.

01:58:00.000 Yeah.

01:58:00.000 He fucked that guy up.

01:58:01.000 Fucked that guy up.

01:58:02.000 Yeah.

01:58:03.000 And, you know, there's been a few decisions like that in boxing where you're like, how is this?

01:58:07.000 What was the one, because I watched a video on this, I think recently too, where I was like, oh, what was the explanation where it was Kennedy, Tim, right?

01:58:16.000 Is that his name?

01:58:17.000 The fighter?

01:58:18.000 Tim Kennedy?

01:58:18.000 Right?

01:58:19.000 Is that his name?

01:58:19.000 Sure.

01:58:20.000 Fighting the Cuban guy? 0.81

01:58:22.000 Yolo Romero.

01:58:23.000 Yeah.

01:58:24.000 That was a really...

01:58:25.000 That was a bad one.

01:58:25.000 That was bad.

01:58:26.000 That was a bad one.

01:58:27.000 Yeah, that was a...

01:58:28.000 We're like, you know, I don't know if that's the referee's fault or whatever, but he didn't get off of his stool.

01:58:33.000 So Kennedy, Tim had rocked him real bad at the end of the round, like real bad.

01:58:38.000 And then Yoel went to his corner wobbling fucking out of it.

01:58:43.000 And at the end of the one minute break that you're supposed to have sat on the stool.

01:58:48.000 It should be it's over.

01:58:50.000 It's over.

01:58:50.000 It should be it's over.

01:58:51.000 But he got an additional, I want to say, more than 30 seconds to recover.

01:58:56.000 Before he got and then he wound up beating Tim, but also Psychologically for the guy who was fucking him up for Tim.

01:59:03.000 It's like no this fight is over.

01:59:05.000 You're fucking me.

01:59:06.000 Yeah Fucked here.

01:59:07.000 Yeah, and so then your brain starts and then you get out of your Fight mindset which has to be Zen because he's get you're getting into the injustice mindset Yeah, isn't anybody fucking yes, yes, yes, yes, and there was That was just like an oversight.

01:59:20.000 It was crazy.

01:59:22.000 I don't want to pass blame, but someone fucked up.

01:59:27.000 It should have been, in my mind, one minute, get up.

01:59:31.000 Are you going to get up?

01:59:32.000 Fight's over.

01:59:33.000 This guy won.

01:59:34.000 That's it?

01:59:35.000 He retired on his stool?

01:59:36.000 Fuck you.

01:59:37.000 Fight's over.

01:59:38.000 That's what it should have been, in my mind.

01:59:40.000 Also, when the round does go over one minute and the guy doesn't get up...

01:59:46.000 You put a burden on Kennedy that is just totally unfair.

01:59:51.000 Totally unfair.

01:59:52.000 Especially when he was rocking him at the end of the round.

01:59:56.000 The more time he gets to recover, there's a reason why in boxing you only get 10 seconds.

02:00:01.000 The more time he gets to recover, the more it's possible that he can win.

02:00:05.000 This is not fair.

02:00:06.000 It's supposed to be one minute and that's it.

02:00:09.000 If the fight doesn't restart at one minute and he's not ready, it's over.

02:00:13.000 So that's only happened once.

02:00:15.000 And unfortunately for Tim, it happened to him.

02:00:17.000 Yeah, that does suck.

02:00:18.000 It was a bummer.

02:00:19.000 It was a bummer because Yoel Romero went on to...

02:00:22.000 Yoel was a freak of all freaks.

02:00:24.000 The guy could recover.

02:00:26.000 And he was also just built like a superhero.

02:00:29.000 He looked like a goddamn pit bull.

02:00:32.000 He was part of the Cuban athlete program.

02:00:34.000 Yeah.

02:00:36.000 Traps in the head.

02:00:38.000 Bro, everybody who fought him said that hitting him hurt.

02:00:41.000 Hitting him.

02:00:42.000 So he's like, he's made out of metal.

02:00:44.000 They all said that.

02:00:45.000 Everybody said, like, Robert Whittaker, who beat him twice, who was the middleweight champion, he's like, every time you hit him, it hurt you.

02:00:53.000 Like, he's just different.

02:00:54.000 Yeah.

02:00:55.000 Freaky guy.

02:00:56.000 Yeah, so like if Chad Ochocinco thinks he was gonna beat that guy.

02:01:00.000 No, no.

02:01:01.000 Listen, bro.

02:01:02.000 No.

02:01:03.000 There's people like you out there that also really know how to fight.

02:01:07.000 Yeah.

02:01:08.000 There's people that have that.

02:01:09.000 That's a problem with really tough guys.

02:01:11.000 They think they're the only one like that.

02:01:12.000 Yeah.

02:01:16.000 It's like you don't want to discourage that in a fighter because that's the thing that gets them to a championship level in the first place is this belief that they're just different than everybody.

02:01:26.000 They're the chosen one.

02:01:28.000 They're destined for this.

02:01:29.000 But the wake-up call that those guys get when they get knocked unconscious is the craziest thing.

02:01:35.000 It's like the reality.

02:01:36.000 Like, oh, my God, I am the victim now.

02:01:39.000 I am what I have been doing to other people.

02:01:41.000 Someone just did to me, and now it's over.

02:01:46.000 The deepest.

02:01:48.000 Well, because it's also...

02:01:50.000 It fucks with your identity.

02:01:51.000 Exactly.

02:01:52.000 Like, who you are.

02:01:52.000 Oh, yeah.

02:01:53.000 Your worth.

02:01:54.000 Yeah, your whole self-worth.

02:01:56.000 Your girlfriend's not attracted to you anymore? 1.00

02:01:57.000 Yeah.

02:01:57.000 You just got laid out?

02:01:58.000 Yeah.

02:01:59.000 Like, everybody thinks of you as a loser now?

02:02:02.000 Yeah.

02:02:02.000 Hey, I had a rough one Saturday, huh?

02:02:04.000 What happened?

02:02:05.000 What happened?

02:02:05.000 Hey, what happened?

02:02:06.000 And all your...

02:02:06.000 That fat, stupid fucking neighbor that's happy that you're a loser now?

02:02:10.000 Yeah.

02:02:10.000 Like, yeah.

02:02:11.000 Wasn't your night, huh, pal?

02:02:12.000 Yeah.

02:02:13.000 Happens to all of us.

02:02:14.000 And you're like, hey, man, fuck you.

02:02:15.000 Yeah.

02:02:15.000 Like, listen.

02:02:16.000 You know?

02:02:17.000 Maybe fucking take a job where you're not getting punched in the head, stupid.

02:02:21.000 Don't get mad at me.

02:02:22.000 Exactly.

02:02:23.000 People love it when the dominator fails.

02:02:26.000 Yeah.

02:02:26.000 We like to...

02:02:27.000 You know, it's funny because we like to...

02:02:30.000 Like society, I think.

02:02:31.000 I don't know if it's just all over the world or it feels like it's kind of American.

02:02:35.000 We love to discover someone.

02:02:38.000 Ride with them.

02:02:39.000 Want everyone to know this is who...

02:02:41.000 I've been with this person.

02:02:43.000 From the beginning.

02:02:45.000 See them reach a certain height and then go, oh, fuck them.

02:02:49.000 Fuck that guy.

02:02:50.000 And then bring him down. 0.83

02:02:51.000 You see it all the time.

02:02:52.000 Well, because our society is infested with bitches. 1.00

02:02:55.000 Like an apartment filled with roaches, our society is infested with bitches. 1.00

02:02:59.000 And there's always going to be people that don't do their best, that don't go for things, that don't try real hard, that never put themselves out there.

02:03:07.000 And so when someone does and fails, they're like, ha, ha, ha.

02:03:11.000 And they want to troll them on social media.

02:03:14.000 You're not better than me.

02:03:15.000 I tell so many fighters, you've got to stay offline.

02:03:18.000 Because I've talked to fighters, like, when they're arguing with people online, and I'll meet them, I'll see them, and I'll go, "Hey man, listen to me.

02:03:23.000 I know you think you're doing, like, you're shutting these people up.

02:03:28.000 If you ever see you, I'll fucking smack you." Dude, I'm telling you, right now, you've got to stop doing this.

02:03:33.000 You've got to stop engaging and stop reading these things.

02:03:36.000 This thing is poison. 0.71

02:03:37.000 You're reading poison.

02:03:38.000 And it gets in your head.

02:03:40.000 It gets in your head while you're training.

02:03:42.000 I'm sure.

02:03:43.000 You think about it while you're training.

02:03:44.000 I know it does.

02:03:46.000 A lot of these guys are very fragile.

02:03:47.000 Because a lot of these guys got bullied and picked on, which is why they got into fighting in the first place.

02:03:52.000 To defend themselves.

02:03:54.000 And then you're getting bullied by 100,000 unknown, anonymous 15-year-olds.

02:04:01.000 And your neighbor.

02:04:03.000 Yeah.

02:04:04.000 Your neighbor's hoping for your downfall.

02:04:05.000 Dude, I was reading this story about this lady who... 1.00

02:04:09.000 This girl, this young girl, was getting mercilessly trolled online and she found out it was her mom.

02:04:15.000 Yes, I saw this story.

02:04:17.000 Bro.

02:04:18.000 It's incomprehensible.

02:04:20.000 Incomprehensible.

02:04:21.000 There's monsters out there.

02:04:23.000 That's a monster.

02:04:24.000 To do that to your daughter?

02:04:26.000 She's just jealous of her daughter's looks and popularity? 1.00

02:04:31.000 Fucking crazy.

02:04:32.000 That's a monster.

02:04:33.000 Monsters are real.

02:04:34.000 Yeah.

02:04:35.000 Yeah, you can't, you know, you can't, like, fucking Gandhi everything.

02:04:39.000 No.

02:04:39.000 You can't, you know, Sat Nam the whole world.

02:04:41.000 Ah, Yamaste, Namaste.

02:04:43.000 No, that's not real.

02:04:44.000 No.

02:04:44.000 Like, there's people out there you gotta kill.

02:04:46.000 Yeah.

02:04:47.000 This happened to, like, um...

02:04:48.000 Some soccer player, too.

02:04:50.000 I remember I watched a doc on him.

02:04:52.000 It's kind of vague to me, but he was getting totally mercilessly trolled and attacked by someone, and it turned out to be one of his friends.

02:05:03.000 Oh! 0.60

02:05:04.000 Marvin Gaye got killed by his dad.

02:05:06.000 Yeah, that's...

02:05:07.000 You want to hear something crazy?

02:05:08.000 I was dating this girl, and I was a giant Marvin Gaye fan.

02:05:13.000 I think she didn't like it, that I was a giant...

02:05:16.000 She was kind of a cunt. 1.00

02:05:17.000 She was kind of a cunt. 1.00

02:05:18.000 And one of the things that she said was, like, imagine how bad of a person he was that his own father killed him.

02:05:24.000 And I was like, that's what you got out of this?

02:05:27.000 That's your perspective?

02:05:28.000 That's what you got out of this?

02:05:29.000 She was such a bad person.

02:05:30.000 Like, what could he have done that would have justified his father shooting him and killing him?

02:05:37.000 I'll tell you what he did.

02:05:38.000 He fucking outshone his father.

02:05:41.000 Yeah.

02:05:41.000 That's what he did.

02:05:42.000 He reached levels of love that his father couldn't possibly have achieved in his life.

02:05:48.000 And his father realized, I'll never be as good as my son.

02:05:51.000 Fuck my son.

02:05:52.000 And he hated him because of that.

02:05:53.000 Yeah.

02:05:53.000 I mean, I'm sure there's probably a bunch of other stuff involved, too.

02:05:56.000 But that's dark, man.

02:05:58.000 Dark. 0.73

02:05:59.000 You shot your son.

02:06:00.000 You shot your son.

02:06:01.000 And it's not like your son was trying to kill you.

02:06:03.000 No.

02:06:04.000 And you had to defend yourself and shoot him.

02:06:05.000 No.

02:06:06.000 He's just an amazing singer that the whole world loved.

02:06:10.000 Yeah.

02:06:10.000 And he probably has a bitch-ass friend.

02:06:12.000 Yeah, look at you, man.

02:06:13.000 Yeah.

02:06:14.000 Your son Marvin's killing it, and you're just a fucking loser.

02:06:18.000 Fucking kid.

02:06:19.000 What was the...

02:06:21.000 Because I always knew that the father...

02:06:23.000 Was it like a clear-cut, like, homicide one?

02:06:27.000 Yeah, the father just shot him.

02:06:28.000 It was an interesting thing, because I think what had happened with Marvin Gaye was Marvin had achieved, like...

02:06:37.000 Incredible fame, but he got fucked over in some record deal where he had, like, no money.

02:06:42.000 Yeah.

02:06:43.000 I think he had, like...

02:06:44.000 Like, everybody in that era.

02:06:45.000 Bro.

02:06:46.000 So fucking predatory.

02:06:47.000 Bro.

02:06:48.000 You want to talk about predatory?

02:06:49.000 The worst.

02:06:50.000 The music business is, like, the most disgusting.

02:06:52.000 You ever read the thing that Courtney Lovard wrote about it?

02:06:55.000 About the music business?

02:06:56.000 A lot of people don't even think she wrote it because it's too good.

02:06:59.000 But it was essentially a breakdown of how bad the music business fucks you.

02:07:04.000 And this is at a time where you actually sold records.

02:07:07.000 Tons of them sometimes, yeah.

02:07:08.000 Yeah, because now the music business, it's like the mask is off.

02:07:12.000 It doesn't provide any value.

02:07:14.000 And they still take 50% of your touring, which is crazy.

02:07:16.000 Of your touring?

02:07:18.000 Yeah, 50-50.

02:07:19.000 They do 50-50 deals.

02:07:20.000 Merch, touring.

02:07:21.000 Yeah.

02:07:22.000 And what are they going to do?

02:07:23.000 What do they provide?

02:07:24.000 They can't even get you on the radio because the radio doesn't exist.

02:07:26.000 Yeah.

02:07:26.000 Like, you know, that's why people that break through from that model, like Oliver Anthony or, you know, Tyler, the creator is a great example, like just makes his own stuff, puts it all in.

02:07:36.000 It doesn't have to be.

02:07:37.000 People don't even realize that in that era, too, you would, after your tour, after your tour and your hit album, that you'd be in debt.

02:07:46.000 Oh, yeah.

02:07:46.000 To the record company.

02:07:47.000 So they're like, you got to do another album.

02:07:48.000 Oh, yeah.

02:07:49.000 And the record companies.

02:07:50.000 All rich.

02:07:51.000 Everyone's profiting.

02:07:52.000 And then also, they want you to subsidize the failures.

02:07:56.000 All these boy bands that they pushed that never made it, all the money that they put into that, that's a part of the accounting.

02:08:02.000 So insane.

02:08:03.000 And then Hollywood does the same thing.

02:08:04.000 They would do the same thing with how much money a movie made.

02:08:08.000 There's been tons of lawsuits that are involved, that kind of stuff.

02:08:11.000 Wait, but where were you with...

02:08:14.000 Marvin, you're like, he's broke?

02:08:15.000 Yeah, so he...

02:08:17.000 If I remember this story correctly, it was so depressing, I didn't even want to really get into it.

02:08:23.000 Because I think he had become a huge superstar and then didn't have any money.

02:08:30.000 Which is...

02:08:31.000 It's happened more than once.

02:08:33.000 And I think he might have had to move back in with his parents.

02:08:37.000 No!

02:08:38.000 Really?

02:08:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:08:40.000 I think that's the story.

02:08:41.000 See if you can find that.

02:08:45.000 I mean, it says he bought his dad a Cadillac, but this is years later, though.

02:08:49.000 Right, but the thing is, like, he might have, like, bought him money when the money was flowing in, and then after a while, you know, that's the other thing that happens with artists.

02:08:58.000 Like, artists are impulsive, so they spend all their money, and then they don't really...

02:09:02.000 Like, how many artists get given, like, a Mercedes-Benz by, you know, the head of a label, and they think, like, oh, shit, I'm killing it.

02:09:10.000 Meanwhile, it's a leased car.

02:09:11.000 Yeah.

02:09:12.000 You know, and they're...

02:09:13.000 Just siphoning money out of you.

02:09:15.000 Someone's writing that loss.

02:09:17.000 You're just getting fucked.

02:09:18.000 You're getting fucked left and right and right and left.

02:09:20.000 And all they do is sell art.

02:09:24.000 All they do is sell art.

02:09:26.000 They don't make any of it, and they make more money than anybody.

02:09:29.000 It's so crazy.

02:09:30.000 People didn't know, because now if you...

02:09:32.000 Or into music, whatever, you don't realize how much it was a thing to have music videos, right?

02:09:38.000 That used to be such the biggest thing.

02:09:40.000 And a lot of artists, especially the young artists, didn't even know that they were paying for the music video.

02:09:47.000 So the label would be like, go shoot your video.

02:09:49.000 And they'd be like, cool.

02:09:49.000 It's a million dollars.

02:09:51.000 And they'd be like, great.

02:09:51.000 And then they're like, oh no, you're going to pay for that.

02:09:53.000 But they tell them later, we've got to deduct that million.

02:09:56.000 And they're like, wait, what?

02:09:57.000 They're not sophisticated.

02:09:58.000 No.

02:09:58.000 They're not finance majors.

02:09:59.000 Which is what we were talking about earlier.

02:10:01.000 Yeah.

02:10:01.000 You should learn that in school.

02:10:02.000 You have no idea that you're like, wait, I thought you guys are paying for this.

02:10:06.000 Yeah.

02:10:06.000 No.

02:10:07.000 It's kind of funny that the video, like everything is visual.

02:10:11.000 You know, like everything's visual now.

02:10:13.000 There's so much video that people watch, but yet music videos kind of went away.

02:10:17.000 I know.

02:10:18.000 Except Kanye's.

02:10:21.000 Yeah, that one we definitely all saw.

02:10:23.000 And the new one looks like you made it for $40.

02:10:25.000 Yeah.

02:10:26.000 Like, it doesn't...

02:10:26.000 It's pretty...

02:10:27.000 I mean, it's like you got a drone and a bunch of people, you know, and Heil Hitler. 0.82

02:10:30.000 And he had, like, the black light kind of effect.

02:10:32.000 Yeah.

02:10:32.000 Doesn't seem like that cost a lot of money.

02:10:34.000 No, I don't think that probably costs a lot.

02:10:36.000 You can make things now, too, for so much less.

02:10:38.000 Oh, with AI?

02:10:39.000 It's so accessible, yeah.

02:10:41.000 With AI, you don't even have to have the actual people doing it.

02:10:44.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:10:45.000 Which is really crazy.

02:10:47.000 Like, what you could do now is nuts.

02:10:48.000 My daughter was showing me some stuff that you could do with just photographs.

02:10:51.000 Where she could take photographs, and then she throws them through this filter, and then they're dancing around and moving.

02:10:56.000 You're like, this is nuts.

02:10:57.000 So all you need is a photograph, and especially if you chose to have effects in it, like some sort of psychedelic fucking weird things where things morph and change, it all could be done with AI now.

02:11:12.000 That's incredible.

02:11:13.000 Easily.

02:11:14.000 Well, there's articles out about some studio.

02:11:18.000 Maybe it's here in...

02:11:20.000 In Texas?

02:11:22.000 I got the...

02:11:23.000 Somebody sent me the link to this.

02:11:26.000 That this company wants to...

02:11:29.000 Yeah, they want to start making studio quality movies for 500k AI movies.

02:11:34.000 I bet they can make it for cheaper than that.

02:11:36.000 But that's...

02:11:37.000 Yeah.

02:11:38.000 These are...

02:11:39.000 I mean, that's...

02:11:40.000 They'll probably have AI write the script, man.

02:11:43.000 I mean, if you're thinking about some dumbass fucking cop movie, you know, some silly...

02:11:49.000 Bank heist movie.

02:11:51.000 You got a hero who's going to go in and fucking kill the bad guys.

02:11:55.000 Fraction of the cost.

02:11:55.000 You could write that easy with just take all AI has to do.

02:12:01.000 It's a large language model, right?

02:12:03.000 It all has to search through Steve McQueen movies and Tom Hardy movies.

02:12:09.000 Write me a movie.

02:12:10.000 Guy Ritchie movies.

02:12:11.000 Put it together.

02:12:12.000 Make me a movie.

02:12:12.000 No, it bums me out, though.

02:12:14.000 I don't want to watch that movie.

02:12:15.000 It should.

02:12:15.000 Yeah.

02:12:16.000 What is this?

02:12:17.000 This is the company.

02:12:18.000 This is the first piece they made, and it shows a little bit about how they made it here.

02:12:20.000 The woman with red hair.

02:12:22.000 Yeah.

02:12:22.000 They still are doing it.

02:12:23.000 Oh, so they have actors.

02:12:24.000 They have real actors.

02:12:25.000 But then they're replaced.

02:12:27.000 God damn.

02:12:28.000 Like, look, it looks so good.

02:12:30.000 It looks so good.

02:12:32.000 Like, that's not a real person.

02:12:33.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:12:35.000 It's the uncanny valley.

02:12:36.000 It looks a little weird.

02:12:37.000 Yeah.

02:12:38.000 But getting better all the time, and the only reason why it looks weird is because it's so well lit.

02:12:43.000 Like, if you wanted to do it, like, Sin City style, there's no...

02:12:48.000 Like, Sin City, if Robert Rodriguez wanted to do Sin City today, the whole thing could be AI.

02:12:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:12:53.000 No one would know.

02:12:53.000 No.

02:12:54.000 That's crazy.

02:12:55.000 Yeah.

02:12:55.000 These are all fake people.

02:12:58.000 And, dude, just a few years ago, you couldn't do hair.

02:13:01.000 Hair was weird.

02:13:03.000 Right.

02:13:03.000 You know?

02:13:04.000 And so were, like, extremities, right?

02:13:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:13:06.000 Now, I mean, just in a short amount of time, it's incredible.

02:13:12.000 That's so interesting.

02:13:13.000 Why are fingers...

02:13:15.000 That's a good question.

02:13:17.000 Well, hair seems like it would take a lot of computing power, right?

02:13:22.000 Strands, single strands moving.

02:13:23.000 Her hair's not moving.

02:13:24.000 It's pretty static.

02:13:25.000 Yeah, but it's...

02:13:26.000 No, it isn't.

02:13:27.000 Go back.

02:13:27.000 No, no, I'm saying...

02:13:28.000 But it is all moving.

02:13:29.000 Not the way it would.

02:13:30.000 It would if...

02:13:31.000 Yeah, you're right.

02:13:32.000 You're right.

02:13:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:13:33.000 You're right.

02:13:34.000 Yeah.

02:13:34.000 It's moving almost like a little bit of a helmet.

02:13:37.000 Like, that would be a tell.

02:13:38.000 Like, it's a little bit of movement, but not enough.

02:13:41.000 Right.

02:13:41.000 A little bit of bounce, but not...

02:13:43.000 Like, it's all spray-painted.

02:13:44.000 Like, as if their hair was, like, sprayed with a shit ton of hairspray.

02:13:48.000 Yeah.

02:13:49.000 But it couldn't move at all.

02:13:50.000 Right.

02:13:50.000 That would kind of make sense.

02:13:51.000 But it's not moving.

02:13:52.000 So they all need that scene at the beginning of every of their movies?

02:13:55.000 Like...

02:13:55.000 Like, they always do it.

02:13:58.000 It's very tough to do, too.

02:13:59.000 What is tough?

02:13:59.000 Getting a good font.

02:14:01.000 Oh.

02:14:01.000 You can't read anything.

02:14:03.000 In a movie, you wouldn't need it, but...

02:14:05.000 Interesting.

02:14:05.000 When you're looking for AI stuff.

02:14:07.000 Right.

02:14:08.000 Interesting.

02:14:09.000 Yeah, look at that.

02:14:10.000 Look at that font.

02:14:12.000 It looks like ancient Sumerian text or something.

02:14:15.000 That's interesting.

02:14:15.000 Like some lost language.

02:14:17.000 Yeah.

02:14:18.000 Like that one and the fingers and toes thing is like, I just wonder what the explanation is for that.

02:14:25.000 Because that's a tell in photographs too, right?

02:14:27.000 Yeah.

02:14:27.000 When you see a photo, you could be like, oh, look, that's got like six fingers.

02:14:30.000 Well, remember that lady, the English lady that was missing?

02:14:34.000 Was it Kate?

02:14:35.000 She was missing forever.

02:14:36.000 She supposedly was sick. 0.98

02:14:38.000 Kate Middleton.

02:14:39.000 She was sick, and then there was a photo that was released of her.

02:14:41.000 Look, she's fine.

02:14:42.000 Everybody's like, no, this is fucking AI.

02:14:44.000 In the photo, people had six fingers and shit.

02:14:47.000 Weird stuff.

02:14:48.000 That's weird shit.

02:14:49.000 In the photo, there was weird, clearly edited.

02:14:53.000 Yeah.

02:14:54.000 It's going to get way spookier.

02:14:55.000 Way.

02:14:57.000 Way spookier.

02:14:58.000 We're just touching it right now.

02:15:00.000 It's just started.

02:15:01.000 This is the infancy.

02:15:02.000 Scratching the surface.

02:15:03.000 Yeah.

02:15:04.000 It's going to be real weird.

02:15:05.000 Actors should really save their money.

02:15:08.000 You're going to be useless in a short amount of time.

02:15:11.000 I agree.

02:15:11.000 And also, if you have any type of recognition to you now, you've got to get your image.

02:15:19.000 You know what I mean?

02:15:20.000 Oh, yeah.

02:15:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:15:22.000 But also, how are you going to stop China from just making Mel Gibson movies? 0.63

02:15:26.000 No, you're definitely not.

02:15:27.000 You're not going to.

02:15:27.000 They're just going to be like, I don't care.

02:15:29.000 Yeah, fuck you.

02:15:29.000 Fuck you.

02:15:29.000 We're going to make a Mel Gibson when he's 35 movie.

02:15:32.000 Fuck off.

02:15:33.000 It's going to play it here.

02:15:34.000 We don't care.

02:15:34.000 Fuck off.

02:15:35.000 We're going to put it online.

02:15:36.000 What are you going to do?

02:15:38.000 It's so, so crazy.

02:15:39.000 Run through 30 different shell companies.

02:15:41.000 You're never going to find who made it.

02:15:42.000 Yeah.

02:15:43.000 Yeah.

02:15:43.000 Totally.

02:15:44.000 And it's going to get to a point where it's going to be virtual.

02:15:46.000 So it's like it's going to be inside people's heads.

02:15:49.000 You're going to be able to exist inside the movie.

02:15:53.000 Things are going to get so strange and they're going to be so immersive so quickly.

02:15:59.000 Yeah.

02:15:59.000 The Matrix is a decade away.

02:16:01.000 The real matrix.

02:16:03.000 The real question is...

02:16:04.000 Where you're in the Amazon and you are barefoot and you feel the ground under your feet.

02:16:09.000 Yeah.

02:16:10.000 And you hear the monkeys and the birds and the bugs and the trees.

02:16:14.000 And you hear the sound of a panther nearby.

02:16:17.000 Like, that's going to be real.

02:16:18.000 It's going to be real and you're going to be like, why do I even want to...

02:16:21.000 Go back to real life.

02:16:22.000 Partake in the real world.

02:16:23.000 Like, what's that guy's name?

02:16:25.000 Joey Pants from fucking The Matrix when he's eating a steak.

02:16:29.000 He's like, I want to be important.

02:16:31.000 I want to be an important person.

02:16:32.000 Like, yeah, that's what people want to do.

02:16:34.000 They'd rather be an important person in The Matrix.

02:16:36.000 That's so true, man.

02:16:37.000 And we might be in that right now.

02:16:40.000 That's the real mind fuck.

02:16:41.000 The real mind fuck is if they can eventually create an artificial reality that's indiscernible, how do you know whether or not you're already in it?

02:16:52.000 And you don't.

02:16:52.000 Well, you wouldn't, yeah.

02:16:54.000 But there's a lot of evidence that we are.

02:16:56.000 That we're in it now?

02:16:57.000 Yeah.

02:16:58.000 Yeah, there's a lot of evidence that reality as we know it is not real.

02:17:05.000 That it's too weird.

02:17:08.000 Quantum entanglement, quantum particles being in superposition, the fact that at a subatomic level everything is kind of magic, like nothing makes any sense.

02:17:19.000 Also that...

02:17:20.000 When you observe things, it changes the behavior of subatomic particles.

02:17:25.000 Like, what's that all about?

02:17:27.000 What does that mean?

02:17:28.000 Like, no one really knows.

02:17:30.000 So I'm experiencing this in an altered reality.

02:17:34.000 I think consciousness might be responsible for reality.

02:17:40.000 Instead of consciousness is experiencing reality.

02:17:43.000 I think it might be both things.

02:17:45.000 I think it might be consciousness is experiencing reality as well as consciousness is responsible for reality.

02:17:53.000 How much of a mindfuck would it be if somebody unplugged you right now?

02:17:57.000 You're like, this whole thing you've been doing.

02:17:58.000 Pretty mindfucky.

02:17:59.000 Yeah.

02:18:01.000 I mean, if anybody should believe in it, it's me.

02:18:03.000 How is it possible that my life was like this?

02:18:05.000 Yeah.

02:18:06.000 Right.

02:18:06.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:18:08.000 I'm just, like, killing it in a video game.

02:18:10.000 Yeah.

02:18:11.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:18:12.000 It doesn't make sense.

02:18:12.000 No, but it doesn't make sense.

02:18:14.000 This is why, like, for a fighter, like, the loss must be so fucking unbelievably devastating.

02:18:19.000 Yeah.

02:18:19.000 It's like the equivalent, right?

02:18:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:18:22.000 It's over.

02:18:23.000 Yeah.

02:18:23.000 You know, like, and you see champions that keep coming back and keep getting knocked out, and you're like, no.

02:18:28.000 Don't do it again.

02:18:29.000 Fuck!

02:18:30.000 You know?

02:18:31.000 Yeah.

02:18:31.000 Just like they can't believe it's over.

02:18:33.000 You don't want to see it again.

02:18:33.000 They can't believe it's over.

02:18:35.000 But I was the winner of the game.

02:18:39.000 Yeah.

02:18:39.000 I won the game.

02:18:40.000 I was winning the game.

02:18:41.000 Nope.

02:18:41.000 Not now.

02:18:42.000 Not anymore.

02:18:42.000 Now reality has shifted.

02:18:44.000 And now, on top of it, you've got brain damage.

02:18:48.000 Oh, fuck.

02:18:50.000 Boy.

02:18:51.000 That's worse than the version we get.

02:18:53.000 Oh, it's the worst.

02:18:54.000 Yeah, that's the worst.

02:18:55.000 Brain damage is the worst.

02:18:56.000 Because now the way you interface with reality might be damaged.

02:19:00.000 Sort of like a car with a bad suspension on the highway with the wheels shaking now.

02:19:05.000 Like the way you interface with the universe itself.

02:19:08.000 Changes completely.

02:19:09.000 Yeah.

02:19:10.000 So you're taking a gamble.

02:19:12.000 The highest amount of glory possible.

02:19:15.000 It's like winning fights in front of the whole world.

02:19:18.000 I mean, I would only imagine that, like, becoming a UFC champion and they, you know, put that belt on your waist and the whole crowd's like, yeah!

02:19:25.000 And people at home are like, fuck yeah!

02:19:27.000 Fuck and he did it!

02:19:29.000 Holy shit!

02:19:30.000 Holy, you text your friends, what a fight!

02:19:32.000 Holy shit!

02:19:33.000 The love that person gets, the accomplishment that person gets.

02:19:37.000 But, the price.

02:19:40.000 You're risking the way you interface with reality itself.

02:19:44.000 The brain.

02:19:45.000 You're risking the brain.

02:19:47.000 And you might get out of it like George St. Pierre.

02:19:49.000 You know?

02:19:50.000 George St. Pierre, fine.

02:19:52.000 Handsome.

02:19:53.000 Wealthy.

02:19:53.000 Yeah.

02:19:54.000 Perfect, like, intellectually.

02:19:56.000 And people are like, you're the man still.

02:19:58.000 Bro, still the man.

02:19:59.000 Yeah.

02:19:59.000 Like, you know, whenever I talk to him, it's like, Joe Rogan, how's things?

02:20:02.000 Everything is great, buddy.

02:20:03.000 He's all happy.

02:20:04.000 You're like, boy, you fucking really pulled it off.

02:20:07.000 You pulled it off.

02:20:07.000 You really pulled it off.

02:20:08.000 You became a two-division world champion, one of the greatest fighters of all time, and you're fine.

02:20:14.000 Chalk me in that one, them bad boys.

02:20:15.000 Yeah, man.

02:20:16.000 I forgot about them rogues.

02:20:17.000 I like those.

02:20:17.000 Yeah.

02:20:18.000 Thank you.

02:20:19.000 But for most, it's going to end badly.

02:20:22.000 Yeah, and the crazier part to me is how many of those guys you go, hey, if you could go back, you know, would you just change things?

02:20:30.000 And they're like, no.

02:20:30.000 Some of them go, I love the glory so much.

02:20:34.000 You see it in fighting, you see it in the NFL, but some of them are like, no, I'll accept.

02:20:40.000 The identity.

02:20:41.000 The identity is so huge.

02:20:43.000 The identity, to be a special person.

02:20:46.000 You don't get to be a special person.

02:20:48.000 Most people don't get to be a special person and a special fighter.

02:20:53.000 Is a different kind of special person.

02:20:55.000 Yeah.

02:20:56.000 It's like, that's a guy who took the craziest of risks.

02:20:59.000 Like, we all know, and you know better than anybody, how vulnerable the human body is.

02:21:02.000 Oh, my God.

02:21:02.000 Because of your surgery and your injury.

02:21:05.000 That sucks.

02:21:05.000 Fucking horrible.

02:21:06.000 So, like, imagine if you had a fight, and now, like, you were a big-time fighter, and you hurt yourself playing basketball with Burt Kreischer.

02:21:13.000 Oh, my God.

02:21:14.000 And then you've got to build yourself back up to fight again, but you kind of know that your left arm is kind of still fucked a little bit.

02:21:19.000 Yeah.

02:21:20.000 No, you never, like, no matter how far you get, From it, you still have the voice in there.

02:21:25.000 Oh, yeah.

02:21:26.000 More so now, right?

02:21:27.000 Oh, yeah.

02:21:27.000 Because you're like, I never had that voice before.

02:21:29.000 Oh, yeah.

02:21:29.000 Of like, watch out.

02:21:30.000 Yeah.

02:21:31.000 Be careful.

02:21:32.000 Yeah.

02:21:32.000 Don't do that.

02:21:33.000 And I, you know, I've had three knee surgeries, and I'm having a problem with this left knee that I really hurt.

02:21:41.000 The last time I hurt it pretty bad was skiing.

02:21:44.000 And the last time I skied, because I cracked the bone that's at the top of the tibia.

02:21:51.000 And then I probably messed up the cartilage and shit in there, too.

02:21:55.000 But it's still better than most people's knees.

02:21:57.000 It's better than a regular knee.

02:22:00.000 People are like, how bad is your knee?

02:22:02.000 It's not fucked up compared to your knees, like a regular person's knees. 0.92

02:22:07.000 I need my knee to be able to kick 60 miles an hour and do a bag of sand.

02:22:14.000 I'm requiring different things for my knees than most people.

02:22:18.000 But I know it's not the same.

02:22:21.000 And if you're a fighter and you know you've got a bum knee, nobody can tell while you're moving around.

02:22:26.000 But you know.

02:22:27.000 And you know your hand breaks easier now.

02:22:29.000 And you know your neck hurts.

02:22:31.000 And you know you've got a pinched nerve.

02:22:32.000 And you know your lower back gives out sometimes.

02:22:34.000 And you know.

02:22:36.000 You know your kidneys kind of hurt because you cut weight for too many years.

02:22:39.000 Sounds like you know you shouldn't be fighting.

02:22:41.000 And you know your memory's not so good anymore.

02:22:43.000 And also you know you can't take a punch anymore.

02:22:46.000 Like a lot of guys know that they used to be able to take a great punch, but now you can't get hit.

02:22:50.000 So now you're gun shy.

02:22:51.000 Yeah.

02:22:52.000 Did you see Devin Haney's fight last weekend?

02:22:54.000 No.

02:22:55.000 He fought like, you know, Ryan Garcia fucked him up in the last fight, dropped him a bunch of times, and this fight, like, it looks like he's done.

02:23:03.000 Like, he's moving around, just like, it was just constantly moving.

02:23:07.000 Who did he fight?

02:23:08.000 I forget the gentleman's name, but there were rounds where neither one of them landed a punch.

02:23:15.000 The whole round?

02:23:16.000 The whole round.

02:23:17.000 And Garcia, that's the one where he was...

02:23:19.000 He won the fight, but then there was all this bullshit.

02:23:21.000 He tested positive for some sort of performance-enhancing metabolite at a very low level, by the way.

02:23:28.000 Like, not a level where it would be performance-enhancing.

02:23:31.000 Yeah.

02:23:32.000 So I don't know what happened.

02:23:33.000 He says he didn't take anything.

02:23:35.000 What ended up happening with the decision or the purse or whatever?

02:23:39.000 He became a no contest.

02:23:41.000 Oh, it became a no contest.

02:23:42.000 Yeah, and I think he's also getting sued because, you know, Devin Haney claimed that he won because he was on steroids and that's a bad look.

02:23:49.000 But you could tell that, like, mine fucked Devin Haney.

02:23:52.000 And a lot of people, like, totally are writing off Devin Haney now.

02:23:56.000 Which is crazy.

02:23:57.000 Because I remember when he beat Kambosis, I was like, damn, Devin Haney's slick. 0.97

02:24:01.000 He's so good.

02:24:03.000 And now, like, that guy is just, he was just moving constantly.

02:24:07.000 And still a very skilled boxer.

02:24:10.000 But it just shows you, like, one devastating loss for an undefeated fighter can fuck you up.

02:24:17.000 And some guys, they come back and they're fine.

02:24:19.000 You know, like Garcia, for instance.

02:24:21.000 Like, Gervonta Davis fucked him up.

02:24:24.000 He came back and he was fine.

02:24:25.000 But then that weekend, he fought Roley Romero, and Romero dropped him, and he lost the decision.

02:24:31.000 So they were going to set up a big rematch.

02:24:33.000 Now nobody wants to see the rematch because they both lost.

02:24:35.000 They both lost.

02:24:36.000 Well, actually, Devin didn't lose.

02:24:38.000 He won a decision, but he lost public credibility because it was a very boring fight.

02:24:44.000 Still an incredibly skillful boxer, a world champion boxer.

02:24:48.000 Very good boxer.

02:24:50.000 But even the commentary, like Antonio Tarver, was like, I don't like the way he's moving.

02:24:55.000 His footwork seems erratic.

02:24:57.000 Everything is like he needs to settle down.

02:25:00.000 Jose Ramirez.

02:25:01.000 Yeah.

02:25:02.000 So Haney won this fight.

02:25:04.000 Yeah.

02:25:05.000 He won a decision.

02:25:06.000 Okay.

02:25:06.000 But it was the fans lost.

02:25:08.000 And this was this big event in Times Square.

02:25:11.000 This is also a big event because...

02:25:17.000 Turkey Alashik, the guy from Saudi Arabia, his excellency is the guy who's dumping incredible amounts of money into boxing so that he can get these guys to fight each other.

02:25:25.000 So he's like, what do you need for the fight?

02:25:28.000 How much to make this fight happen?

02:25:29.000 Like, I need 10 million dollars.

02:25:31.000 Like, done.

02:25:32.000 And they're like, what?

02:25:33.000 Like, fuck, I should ask for 20. It's that kind of a situation because the Saudis have so much money. 1.00

02:25:39.000 So Oscar De La Hoya was talking about this, and he was saying, these guys are spoiled.

02:25:45.000 And they're afraid to risk anything.

02:25:47.000 Right.

02:25:48.000 Because the money's so much.

02:25:49.000 Which is so interesting.

02:25:50.000 Like, you need a guy who's willing to risk it all to really fucking go for it.

02:25:56.000 And these guys aren't willing to do that.

02:25:58.000 And I think the Devin Haney thing, it's one of those things where you see a guy who is an unbelievably skilled fighter but loses one fight and they're just not the same again.

02:26:06.000 Not the same.

02:26:07.000 And Gervonta's still...

02:26:08.000 Gervonta's still killing it.

02:26:09.000 Killing it.

02:26:10.000 But he had that fight with Lamont Roach where it was a draw.

02:26:14.000 And there was a legit draw, and you could even make the argument that Roach won that fight, and they're gonna fight again.

02:26:21.000 That should be very interesting.

02:26:23.000 But I think it's also, for boxers, there's a situation where you can only keep up the RPMs for so long.

02:26:29.000 All the greats, there's a certain amount of times that you can keep training, a certain amount of times you can keep competing.

02:26:35.000 And like we were talking about your arm, you know it's kind of fucked up. 0.87

02:26:38.000 That happens with them too.

02:26:39.000 The ankles are bad, something's bad.

02:26:42.000 I can't do the same level of output.

02:26:44.000 It's not the same.

02:26:45.000 They're not who they used to be.

02:26:47.000 They might look the same, but they can't do what they could do five years ago, six years ago.

02:26:51.000 Yeah.

02:26:52.000 It's hard.

02:26:53.000 It's a hard sport, man.

02:26:55.000 But it's also because the glory is so high if you're successful.

02:26:59.000 So great.

02:27:00.000 People are willing to do it.

02:27:01.000 Yeah.

02:27:02.000 Very crazy, though.

02:27:03.000 Yeah.

02:27:03.000 Thank God that's not how we make a living.

02:27:05.000 Thank God.

02:27:06.000 Dude, if the UFC was around when I was competing, I 100% would have done it.

02:27:10.000 And then imagine how dumb I would be now at 57 years old.

02:27:14.000 Oh, I'd be a mess.

02:27:15.000 A lot of staring.

02:27:16.000 Oh, I'd be a lot of drooling.

02:27:17.000 So, hey, you look good.

02:27:20.000 You losing weight?

02:27:21.000 You losing weight?

02:27:22.000 What are you doing?

02:27:25.000 Dieting?

02:27:25.000 You know, my brain would be like a four-cylinder engine, like, all fucked up, misfiring.

02:27:33.000 It's good you didn't get into that, dude.

02:27:35.000 It is, but I think I got the right amount of brain damage.

02:27:37.000 Yeah, you've said that to me before.

02:27:39.000 I think so.

02:27:39.000 I think there's just a certain amount that you get that makes you just a little reckless, just a little crazy.

02:27:44.000 Just a touch.

02:27:44.000 Yeah, just a touch.

02:27:45.000 I just got a touch of brain damage that allows me to be, I like taking, I enjoy risks.

02:27:52.000 Yeah.

02:27:52.000 Like, I like them.

02:27:53.000 They're fun.

02:27:54.000 Me too.

02:27:55.000 Did you fall on your head?

02:27:57.000 Yeah, I had a couple devastating...

02:27:59.000 Yeah.

02:28:00.000 I bet it helped.

02:28:01.000 A couple bad ones.

02:28:02.000 I bet it helped.

02:28:03.000 Like, I think I have some frontal lobe damage.

02:28:05.000 And, yeah.

02:28:06.000 I think it has something to do with it.

02:28:08.000 I do.

02:28:08.000 I like calculated risks.

02:28:10.000 Yes.

02:28:10.000 I mean, I think if you take this career path, you enjoy risk.

02:28:15.000 Clearly.

02:28:15.000 Yeah.

02:28:16.000 But also, you don't have any choices.

02:28:18.000 Yeah.

02:28:18.000 Like, my thought was when I was first started, I was like, I can't work.

02:28:23.000 I can't do it.

02:28:24.000 But I know I can do things.

02:28:26.000 But I can't show up and do a job all day for the rest of my life.

02:28:29.000 I don't have that in me.

02:28:31.000 I'm allergic to it.

02:28:33.000 I didn't like...

02:28:34.000 I was a latchkey kid.

02:28:35.000 So, like, I didn't get a lot of, like, you gotta do this, you gotta do that.

02:28:38.000 So the problem is, like, I developed not having people tell me what to do.

02:28:42.000 So I can't listen.

02:28:43.000 I think every...

02:28:45.000 Comic has that thing too where you're like, I can't have a boss.

02:28:48.000 Also, I was around enough bosses that were just total cunts and douchebags that I just like, in my mind, the boss is an asshole.

02:28:58.000 Always.

02:28:59.000 Every time.

02:28:59.000 He's an unappreciative fucking idiot who you gotta listen to him because he's responsible for your paycheck and he knows it so he gets to act like a douchebag and you can't go, hey man, fuck you.

02:29:09.000 Who are you talking to?

02:29:11.000 Why do you talk to people like that, you fucking idiot?

02:29:13.000 Yeah.

02:29:14.000 You can't, because he's the boss.

02:29:15.000 He's the boss, yeah.

02:29:16.000 No, it sets you up for like, I'll figure out a way.

02:29:19.000 I think if I hadn't done this, I would have, I definitely think I would have started my own business of some kind.

02:29:24.000 You know what I mean?

02:29:25.000 I'd have been an entrepreneur of some kind.

02:29:26.000 Yeah, you would have had to.

02:29:28.000 But that's, you know, how many people don't, or they get roped in, and then they have a bunch of responsibilities, like family.

02:29:35.000 No, it's a fucking, yeah.

02:29:36.000 I mean, now we're at the age, too, where you can look back on 25 years of People you know.

02:29:44.000 Oh, my God.

02:29:45.000 Who are, like, miserable.

02:29:46.000 Oh, my God.

02:29:47.000 People that are in hell.

02:29:48.000 Yeah, in hell.

02:29:49.000 In hell.

02:29:50.000 Meanwhile, we're fucking...

02:29:51.000 Killing it.

02:29:52.000 Yeah, but you're doing fun things.

02:29:54.000 You know what's really crazy?

02:29:55.000 Is when people get out of stand-up, and then they see everybody doing real well, and they want to jump back in.

02:30:02.000 And it's been like...

02:30:03.000 I've gotten some messages from some friends that I know they haven't been on stand-up in a decade.

02:30:07.000 And I'm like...

02:30:08.000 You can't just jump back in.

02:30:10.000 Well, if you do, you've got to start from the beginning.

02:30:15.000 Start doing open mic nights again.

02:30:17.000 You've been in the writer's room just writing for a sitcom for fucking eight years.

02:30:22.000 You lose your footing so much in that time.

02:30:25.000 Sometimes I've had a week off, two weeks off, even a month or something off.

02:30:30.000 Where you're like, oh, you have sea lakes.

02:30:33.000 You're just like, whoa.

02:30:34.000 I can't imagine 10 years.

02:30:36.000 Dude, it happened to a lot of writers when they got in the strike.

02:30:40.000 When the strike was going on, how long did that strike go on for?

02:30:44.000 God, it was months.

02:30:46.000 Long ass time.

02:30:47.000 And these guys have mortgages, and the kids are in private school, and their wife likes to spend money.

02:30:51.000 Yeah.

02:30:52.000 Fuck!

02:30:52.000 Yeah.

02:30:53.000 And they're used to making, you know, half a million a year.

02:30:55.000 Yeah.

02:30:55.000 You know, doing real good.

02:30:56.000 Yeah.

02:30:57.000 And then all of a sudden it all dries up and like, oh, fuck.

02:31:00.000 And then their savings account and the wife's like, what are you going to do? 0.99

02:31:03.000 Like, fuck.

02:31:04.000 I think I'm going to start doing stand-up again.

02:31:06.000 Like, and they start trying to put together an act and they want to show up and then the club doesn't know who they are anymore.

02:31:11.000 Oh, God.

02:31:12.000 Oh.

02:31:13.000 Give me anxiety.

02:31:14.000 Yeah.

02:31:14.000 Oh.

02:31:15.000 Scary.

02:31:16.000 It's a scary feeling.

02:31:17.000 It's the worst.

02:31:18.000 But it's like...

02:31:19.000 The decisions that you make in life, like, what are you going to do?

02:31:23.000 Like, what are you going to do with your life?

02:31:26.000 Those are personal decisions.

02:31:27.000 Which is why this whole free will versus determinism thing drives me crazy.

02:31:34.000 Because these people that want to believe there is no such thing as free will, like, yeah, you can do that cute little thing, but you know that free will's real because you know that you decide to get up in the morning.

02:31:44.000 Like, you're telling me Jelly Roll?

02:31:46.000 Didn't have free will to lose that 200 pounds?

02:31:49.000 No shit.

02:31:50.000 Yeah.

02:31:51.000 Perfect example.

02:31:52.000 Yeah.

02:31:52.000 Like, that's hard to do.

02:31:54.000 Yeah.

02:31:54.000 You're 400 plus pounds, you're fat as fuck, you're drinking and partying every night, and then one day you put your foot down and go, that's it.

02:32:01.000 Not doing this shit, yeah.

02:32:02.000 That's enough.

02:32:03.000 I'm gonna get healthy.

02:32:05.000 That's free will.

02:32:06.000 You're telling me, determinism forced him into a position at 39 years old where he's all of a sudden going to decide to lose all this weight and it has nothing to do with his free will?

02:32:16.000 That's silly.

02:32:17.000 Will's a real thing.

02:32:19.000 Of course.

02:32:19.000 And we all have it.

02:32:21.000 And you can just deny it.

02:32:22.000 But it's why, I don't know, anything that you accomplish that's work is through.

02:32:30.000 It's through making choices, man.

02:32:31.000 But then there is also a certain amount of determinism.

02:32:35.000 If you grow up in a terribly abusive household and you're around drug addicts and violence and then you go and commit that, it's almost like you have no other examples.

02:32:49.000 It's true.

02:32:50.000 I get that.

02:32:51.000 But you still make a choice.

02:32:52.000 You do, but you don't even know what a good choice is because you've never even seen a good choice.

02:32:59.000 Analysis that, like, you had horrible modeling.

02:33:03.000 So you're just following a path you think is the only path, right?

02:33:06.000 And some of those guys get involved in athletics, right?

02:33:09.000 Some of those guys get lucky and they become a fighter.

02:33:11.000 Or maybe they get lucky and they become a musician.

02:33:14.000 Or maybe they get lucky and they become something else.

02:33:16.000 Or a comic.

02:33:16.000 Yeah.

02:33:17.000 Yeah, but it's just the choices that you make in this life are, you don't know if it's the right choice while you're doing it, while you're making that choice.

02:33:27.000 Well, I'm about to find out whether making this TV show was the right choice.

02:33:29.000 Oh, no, that's the right choice.

02:33:30.000 No.

02:33:31.000 I'll find out.

02:33:32.000 Do you have to piss?

02:33:32.000 It seems like you're wiggling.

02:33:33.000 I gotta piss.

02:33:34.000 I knew it.

02:33:35.000 I knew it.

02:33:35.000 Should we wrap it up?

02:33:36.000 Sure.

02:33:36.000 Listen, what you showed me is amazing.

02:33:39.000 Thanks, man.

02:33:39.000 I'm sure it's gonna be fucking bad thoughts.

02:33:41.000 When is it out?

02:33:42.000 It's Tuesday, so tomorrow.

02:33:45.000 Tomorrow.

02:33:45.000 Yeah.

02:33:45.000 Fuck yeah.

02:33:48.000 The stuff that I saw is amazing.

02:33:50.000 It's fucking hilarious.

02:33:51.000 Thanks a lot, bro.

02:33:51.000 I'm glad you're doing stuff, man.

02:33:53.000 I'm just glad you're out there.

02:33:54.000 It's fucking beautiful to see.

02:33:56.000 I'm very excited for it, I'll tell you.

02:33:58.000 I know it's an overused term, but it really was a dream come true to do it.

02:34:01.000 Well, you can tell.

02:34:02.000 You can tell by how well it came out.

02:34:04.000 It's so ridiculous.

02:34:05.000 It's so you.

02:34:06.000 It's such a signature Tom Segura type of humor.

02:34:10.000 Thanks, man.

02:34:11.000 It's awesome.

02:34:11.000 I'm excited for it.

02:34:12.000 Thanks for having me on, man.

02:34:13.000 My pleasure, my brother.

02:34:14.000 Anytime.

02:34:15.000 Always good to see you.

02:34:15.000 Love you to death.

02:34:16.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 13, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2320 - Tom Segura

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