The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2323 - Guy Fieri

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00:00:13.000 Um, Knuckle Sandwich is a sandwich shop in Austin.

00:00:16.000 I heard about it today.

00:00:17.000 It's legit.

00:00:18.000 My pilot calls me and says, you know, someone's got your brand out there.

00:00:22.000 I'm like, what's it called?

00:00:23.000 He goes, Knuckle Sandwich.

00:00:24.000 I'm like, go figure.

00:00:25.000 Well...

00:00:26.000 But I hear it's good stuff.

00:00:27.000 Yeah, it's real good.

00:00:28.000 Can we smoke it here?

00:00:30.000 What's that?

00:00:30.000 Can we smoke it here?

00:00:31.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:32.000 Everything goes in here?

00:00:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:34.000 Whatever you want to do.

00:00:35.000 So that...

00:00:36.000 Don't shoot heroin on camera.

00:00:39.000 I think we're going to be able to pass that.

00:00:42.000 So what's happening, man?

00:00:43.000 How are you?

00:00:45.000 Well...

00:00:45.000 There we go.

00:00:52.000 I got one, thanks.

00:00:54.000 I, uh...

00:00:55.000 Really appreciate the invite.

00:00:56.000 My pleasure.

00:00:57.000 This is a long time coming.

00:01:01.000 I've been waiting for this.

00:01:02.000 Yeah?

00:01:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:03.000 I mean, especially all the influence you've had and things you've done.

00:01:07.000 And I know the funny side of you.

00:01:08.000 I know the UFC side of you.

00:01:10.000 But watching the podcast and seeing all the characters, and I was just watching the Bill Murray interview the other day, and I just look at it and I go, man, to hear those stories talking about Hunter and just all that and all the nostalgia.

00:01:24.000 I mean, it's just, it's pretty, you've got to have your mind blown by now.

00:01:29.000 Yeah, my mind's been blown out.

00:01:31.000 It's kind of overblown at this point.

00:01:34.000 It's huge.

00:01:35.000 Yeah.

00:01:35.000 I mean, I think about what you did with Trump and all that influence that you made.

00:01:38.000 And you call it straight up the line.

00:01:40.000 You want to come on the show?

00:01:41.000 You want to do this?

00:01:42.000 Let's do it.

00:01:43.000 And took the time to do it.

00:01:45.000 I think it was a huge impact.

00:01:46.000 I think that we look at all the people that you've given a chance.

00:01:49.000 You've given them a platform.

00:01:50.000 And I think that's really – it's fair of you.

00:01:53.000 And the way you interview, the way I see it from doing a few interviews, you let people talk.

00:01:58.000 You let them speak their piece.

00:02:00.000 You continue to – Help them through not getting stuck on one thing.

00:02:05.000 You navigate them pretty well.

00:02:07.000 And it's really, I mean, it's from a guy that's, you know, in the business, not to this level, but guys in the business, it's respectful, man.

00:02:15.000 Thank you.

00:02:16.000 Thank you very much.

00:02:16.000 What is knuckle sandwich based on?

00:02:18.000 You even have a, your chain is a knuckle sandwich.

00:02:21.000 It's all, it's all has history.

00:02:23.000 Just kind of like as I toured the museum today.

00:02:24.000 Chef's hat with a skull.

00:02:26.000 Started with that tattoo.

00:02:28.000 One of the first tattoos I ever had.

00:02:29.000 Culinary gangster. 0.99

00:02:31.000 So my buddy Joe Leonard, monkey wrench tattoo, great friend of mine, did my first tattoo.

00:02:37.000 And he made that.

00:02:39.000 He says, I have this drawing for you.

00:02:40.000 I want to show this to you.

00:02:42.000 And it's pretty, you know, skull, chef.

00:02:46.000 Let me check it out.

00:02:47.000 So I don't put a tattoo on until he draws it on first.

00:02:50.000 I have to have it on for a while.

00:02:52.000 Like, I have to look at it for a couple days.

00:02:53.000 Like, does this resonate with me?

00:02:55.000 So that's how it started.

00:02:56.000 This was way before TV, way before any of this.

00:03:00.000 When I got on TV, when I got on Food Network, they were going to send me my first paycheck.

00:03:04.000 You wouldn't believe how much I made that first episode.

00:03:07.000 I mean, just huge money.

00:03:09.000 $1,250 an episode, you know, when you get started.

00:03:12.000 And I wasn't playing on TV.

00:03:14.000 But anyhow, I came back and I had all my buddies around my table.

00:03:16.000 My house was kind of like a soup kitchen.

00:03:17.000 All my buddies, you know, come by and someone will bring, you know, crabs, someone will bring some stuff, you know, whatever.

00:03:22.000 And so I'm sitting there with all my buddies.

00:03:24.000 I said, hey, I got to think of a name for my...

00:03:27.000 TV, like my other business, because my restaurant business had a business partner, and I didn't want the checks to come to the business.

00:03:32.000 So I said, what do you think?

00:03:34.000 My one buddy, Dirty, says, my nickname's Guido.

00:03:38.000 He says, how about you make us something to eat?

00:03:40.000 And that'll give us some food for knowledge.

00:03:45.000 And I'm serious.

00:03:46.000 I want to come up with a name for the company.

00:03:48.000 I've got to get my $1,200 check sent to me.

00:03:51.000 And I go, hey, Dirty, how about I give you a knuckle sandwich? 0.99

00:03:53.000 And he goes, that'd be a good name.

00:03:56.000 That's it?

00:03:57.000 That was it.

00:03:58.000 And it was originally that.

00:04:00.000 It was originally a sandwich with a ring on it and a sandwich made out of money, and that was Knuckle Sandwich.

00:04:06.000 And then it just kind of all evolved from there.

00:04:08.000 So all my companies go into the brand of Knuckle Sandwich, but I never put a product of wine or tequila or anything I ever did.

00:04:16.000 And when we started making these cigars, and this guy that I'm partners with is such a guru, a guy named Eric Espinoza.

00:04:25.000 We sat there and talked about it, and I have another brand called Flavortown.

00:04:29.000 Flavortown's too whimsical and too, you know, it's got to be something.

00:04:33.000 I didn't want to call Guy Fieri.

00:04:34.000 I didn't want to have my name on it.

00:04:35.000 I don't want to do stuff that, like, buy this because it's my name.

00:04:39.000 I just wanted to do something, you know, and we all thought about it.

00:04:42.000 We said, cigars are that good, and he's such a badass.

00:04:46.000 It's called Knuckle Sandwich.

00:04:47.000 Did you have any idea in the beginning of your career of being a TV guy?

00:04:52.000 Like, how did all that stuff start?

00:04:54.000 Because it's a weird world, you know?

00:04:57.000 I had a conversation with Jose Andres about this.

00:04:59.000 I watched it!

00:05:00.000 The emergence of the celebrity chef is like...

00:05:04.000 I mean, it used to be like Julia Child, like way, way back in the day.

00:05:09.000 And then...

00:05:10.000 This one?

00:05:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:11.000 And then I guess there was a few other people, but they never were like cultural figures.

00:05:17.000 I guess Julia Child was.

00:05:19.000 She was probably the only one.

00:05:21.000 I don't know.

00:05:23.000 She was really it, right?

00:05:24.000 Yeah, and that was PBS.

00:05:25.000 You know, that was PBS.

00:05:26.000 That wasn't people really blowing it up.

00:05:29.000 I mean, I watched it because I loved that I was in love with food at a young age.

00:05:32.000 I mean, I just was, one, because I didn't really experience and like exactly what my parents were feeding me.

00:05:37.000 My parents were really good cooks.

00:05:39.000 They weren't in the cooking business.

00:05:42.000 But yeah, this whole food thing, before I got on Food Network, I had never watched the Food Network.

00:05:46.000 And not because I don't believe in it.

00:05:48.000 I mean, food's my epicenter of what I do.

00:05:50.000 But the last thing I was going to do, working seven days a week, 12, 13, 15 hours a day in the restaurant...

00:05:56.000 Come home and watch more food.

00:05:57.000 It's going to watch somebody make me, you know, a pot pie.

00:05:59.000 I'm like, I got enough.

00:06:01.000 Plus, I also didn't really have a true understanding of what was going on.

00:06:04.000 Knew who Emeril was.

00:06:05.000 I mean, you couldn't...

00:06:06.000 He's another one.

00:06:07.000 Remember when he had that sitcom?

00:06:10.000 His tagline, bam!

00:06:12.000 Like, they decided to try to put that into a sitcom.

00:06:16.000 We just had that conversation the other day.

00:06:18.000 Yeah, we just had that conversation.

00:06:19.000 But Emeril's the OG.

00:06:20.000 I give such appreciation and accolades to everybody that did it before me.

00:06:25.000 There were so many people that helped pave the way in one style or another.

00:06:30.000 And some in TV, some literary, some...

00:06:34.000 You know, just living the, you know, keeping the energy of the industry alive.

00:06:38.000 Because if you're not from the industry, you don't quite exactly get what it is.

00:06:42.000 But it's a pretty, it's like understanding UFC.

00:06:45.000 You know, the bigger fan you become of something, the more you start looking at it and just going, it is so much more than what you're watching in the ring for the, you know, next 20 minutes.

00:06:55.000 It's really deep and there's so much more and there's so much, it's not just lifestyle, it's attitude, it's energy, it's...

00:07:02.000 It's connectivity.

00:07:03.000 It's family.

00:07:04.000 It's community.

00:07:05.000 It's all that kind of stuff.

00:07:07.000 So did you, like, how does one go from being a chef to being a TV chef?

00:07:13.000 Like, what was it?

00:07:14.000 Did you just get an audition?

00:07:16.000 Like, did they contact a bunch of chefs?

00:07:18.000 Like, who's got the wackiest hair?

00:07:20.000 And who looks like they would be good on TV?

00:07:22.000 Like, how do they figure something like that out?

00:07:25.000 This is about the most whacked story in the world.

00:07:28.000 So, alright, so, never graduated high school.

00:07:31.000 Dropped out of high school when I was 16. Went to France.

00:07:34.000 I was an exchange student.

00:07:35.000 I'm going to give you a little bit more of the backstory than you probably want, but I'll kind of give you the quick version.

00:07:41.000 So when I came back from France, I was supposed to go to my senior year in high school, and I wasn't really super interested in going back to high school.

00:07:47.000 I just lived in France in a boarding house and went to high school, and I didn't even speak French.

00:07:51.000 But my parents were really open-minded, and I'd save my money, and they said, if you can pass a year of French at the junior college at 16, and you can pass the class, and you can figure it out, I guess.

00:08:01.000 So I went and lived in a boarding house and went to high school.

00:08:03.000 Came back my senior year, I just was not interested in going back to high school.

00:08:06.000 So I went to junior college, finished junior college, went to UNLV, got my degree, graduated a little bit early and went and ran restaurants for other people.

00:08:14.000 And then, and I was 26, moved back to the wine country up to Northern California where I'm from, opened my first restaurant.

00:08:21.000 Had a bunch of restaurants with a buddy.

00:08:23.000 Things were great.

00:08:24.000 Did exactly what I wanted to do.

00:08:25.000 Wanted to be, you know, have a great wife.

00:08:27.000 Wanted to be a great dad.

00:08:28.000 Wanted to have my own restaurant.

00:08:29.000 That's all I wanted.

00:08:30.000 Not that I was short-sighted and stuff, like being a big community person, wanted to do a lot of, you know, community service and so forth.

00:08:36.000 My parents were that way.

00:08:38.000 So that was it, man.

00:08:40.000 I had like three restaurants, owned a couple hot rods, bought my own house.

00:08:45.000 I was living it, you know.

00:08:48.000 And a bunch of friends came up to me, actually a kid across the street came to me and said, you watch Food Network?

00:08:53.000 I said, no.

00:08:54.000 He said, we have a show on there called the Food Network Star.

00:08:57.000 You should go on that show.

00:08:59.000 I hadn't even seen Food Network.

00:09:00.000 I saw Rachel Ray one time.

00:09:01.000 I was at a bar.

00:09:02.000 I saw Rachel Ray on screen, and I'm like, that girl's got energy. 0.99

00:09:05.000 I mean, listen to her.

00:09:05.000 And she could talk food.

00:09:06.000 She doesn't know her shit. 1.00

00:09:08.000 So that was whatever. 1.00

00:09:11.000 About six, eight months later, my wife's driving home from the city.

00:09:14.000 She says, hey, I was just listening to the radio station.

00:09:17.000 They had that Food Network star show going on.

00:09:19.000 She goes, you'd be great in that.

00:09:20.000 I go, how do you know?

00:09:21.000 You haven't seen the show.

00:09:22.000 She goes, no, they're just talking about it, like, you know, the culinary challenges and all the things.

00:09:25.000 And then if you do it, you win a show.

00:09:27.000 What do I want a show for?

00:09:30.000 Doing what?

00:09:31.000 I've not been on TV.

00:09:32.000 I made my own TV commercials for my restaurant.

00:09:34.000 That was the only thing I ever did that was TV.

00:09:36.000 So none of it was appealing when they contacted you and they asked you?

00:09:40.000 I wouldn't say it wasn't appealing.

00:09:42.000 It just wasn't in my scope.

00:09:44.000 Right.

00:09:44.000 It wasn't in your plans.

00:09:46.000 It wasn't like something I was seeking.

00:09:48.000 We had talked about it.

00:09:49.000 There had been many people that had come to me before and said, like my buddy that was the marketing manager for...

00:09:57.000 Flowmaster.

00:09:58.000 Remember Flowmasters?

00:09:59.000 The mufflers?

00:10:00.000 Oh, yeah, okay.

00:10:00.000 Hot rod mufflers?

00:10:01.000 Yeah, sure.

00:10:01.000 So he came to me and said, you should do a hot rod show.

00:10:04.000 You love hot rods, let's do a hot rod show.

00:10:07.000 I mean, I know enough to be dangerous, you know, about hot rods.

00:10:09.000 I mean, I know just enough to get into the conversation where I bury myself.

00:10:13.000 And so that was that.

00:10:16.000 So anyhow, the show, they say make a three-minute pitch.

00:10:20.000 So all my buddies are like, you know, got to make the pitch.

00:10:23.000 Got to do the thing.

00:10:25.000 And I avoided it any way I could.

00:10:28.000 And to the point where it had expired, like the entry time had expired.

00:10:33.000 So my buddy named Mustard, we were on a barbecue team together. 0.98

00:10:38.000 We did competition barbecue and all kinds of crazy shit. 0.76

00:10:41.000 And he says, did you ever send that demo tape into the Food Network? 0.98

00:10:44.000 And I said, no.

00:10:45.000 I just missed that window.

00:10:47.000 And he goes, good, I thought you were going to say that.

00:10:49.000 He says, because they opened it back up.

00:10:50.000 There's another week.

00:10:51.000 He says, let's go make that.

00:10:53.000 I'm like, I don't want to do this.

00:10:55.000 And he's like, don't be, you know, you always push every, you know, this is the truth.

00:10:58.000 Because I push all my friends and like, open your own business.

00:11:00.000 Go on that vacation.

00:11:01.000 Have kids.

00:11:02.000 You know, I'm always the one that's kind of, you know, go live your best life.

00:11:06.000 And so I kind of walked my talk.

00:11:08.000 Last thing I wanted to do, Joe, honestly, is go on TV.

00:11:12.000 And because I never went to culinary school.

00:11:14.000 You know, I've just been cooking through my, you know, that was my career, and it's what I did as a passion and living in France.

00:11:21.000 You opened up a restaurant without ever going to culinary school?

00:11:23.000 No.

00:11:24.000 Is that unusual?

00:11:26.000 I think it's probably 60-40.

00:11:28.000 Oh, really?

00:11:29.000 Yeah.

00:11:29.000 60-40 that go to school?

00:11:31.000 60 go to school.

00:11:33.000 That's a lot that don't, though.

00:11:34.000 I could really be off on that.

00:11:36.000 When I do diners, drive-ins, and dives, 70, 60% don't go.

00:11:44.000 A lot of the mom and pops.

00:11:46.000 And that doesn't mean that they don't learn.

00:11:48.000 I mean, some of the best chefs I know haven't been to culinary school and just are super smart at learning and dig in.

00:11:54.000 A lot of education, a lot of research, a lot of trial and error, a lot of putting yourself out there.

00:11:59.000 You've got to be willing to fail.

00:12:00.000 I don't really think you'd be a good cook if you're not willing to fail.

00:12:02.000 I mean, if you stay in your lane so much, I just think that you get better chances to, well, let's think about fighting.

00:12:09.000 Think about things you've learned.

00:12:11.000 All the education in martial arts and boxing and all these different perspectives that people take to be in it.

00:12:17.000 It's usually the one that has a pretty good, you know, narrow focus on something I really, really love, but then having that outside perspective.

00:12:25.000 So for me as a chef, having the ability to understand Indian food, you know, there's such a depth there that I'll never hit the bottom.

00:12:33.000 You'll never touch all the opportunities that there are.

00:12:36.000 But anyhow, so back to that, I made the demo tape.

00:12:40.000 And I made it so ridiculous that there's no way.

00:12:44.000 There's just no way they were going to pick me.

00:12:47.000 What'd you do in the demo tape?

00:12:48.000 Do you have it?

00:12:49.000 I think you can find it online.

00:12:51.000 I can't believe I just told you.

00:12:53.000 Oh, you guys already have them? 1.00

00:12:55.000 God damn it, you set me up. 0.99

00:12:56.000 I didn't set you up. 1.00

00:12:57.000 Did you really get it that fast?

00:12:59.000 Jamie just pulled it up.

00:12:59.000 Jamie, did you pull it up that fast?

00:13:00.000 Listen, Jamie, welcome to Sonoma County, California, home of true wine country cuisine.

00:13:05.000 Today I'm going to prepare a dish for you, not in fusion, but in confusion.

00:13:09.000 I'm going to do a gorgonzola tofu sausage terrine that we served over a mildly poached ostrich egg.

00:13:16.000 Now, since we're in the wine country, I'll be serving that on grape nuts and done with a delicious pickled herring mousse right on top.

00:13:23.000 Oh, I know, delicious.

00:13:24.000 It sends shivers up my spine.

00:13:29.000 No, seriously, folks.

00:13:31.000 Real food for real people.

00:13:32.000 That's the idea.

00:13:33.000 See, it's all getting messed up.

00:13:34.000 People are trying to take everything off the shelf and jam it onto a plate, and that's not what it has to be.

00:13:39.000 I learned how to cook out of survival.

00:13:40.000 My parents are going through this macrobiotic cooking in the late 70s and I had enough bulger and steamed fish to kill a kid.

00:13:46.000 So the idea in our family was whoever made the dinner got to decide what it was going to be.

00:13:51.000 And being of Italian descent, pasta was always one of the keys.

00:13:54.000 I went and studied in France and then came back and got my degree at University of Nevada, Las Vegas in Restaurant Administration.

00:14:00.000 I've been a district manager in Los Angeles and moved up here to Northern California to open up three different concept restaurants.

00:14:06.000 What I'd like to talk to you about and what I think I could do as a Food Network host is teach people about real food, real people.

00:14:12.000 Get it to the basics.

00:14:14.000 Great product.

00:14:15.000 Great equipment, great ideas.

00:14:16.000 See, anybody can read a cookbook.

00:14:18.000 Anybody can come up with a simple idea.

00:14:20.000 But the idea is bringing it to the table.

00:14:22.000 I take people's imaginations and put them on the plate.

00:14:25.000 Let me show you one of my favorites.

00:14:26.000 I was on my way back from Houston where I was down there learning about Southern Style Barbecue.

00:14:30.000 And I came up with this idea.

00:14:32.000 I've got to take Southern Style Barbecue and mix it into Japanese cooking.

00:14:35.000 See, in Japanese, sushi does not mean raw fish.

00:14:39.000 And that's what people think it does.

00:14:40.000 It means seasoned rice.

00:14:41.000 So I take a little bit of seasoned rice.

00:14:43.000 A little bit of smoked pork butt, and we put this together here in a dish with a little of our American favorite, french fries, and mix this together with a little bit of the California favorite, some avocado.

00:14:56.000 And I came up with this idea, and as I was doing this, a buddy came around the corner and he says, Guido, what are you doing?

00:15:01.000 He says, you can't put that into rice.

00:15:03.000 You can't make sushi out of barbecue. 0.99

00:15:05.000 What are you doing, you jackass? 0.99

00:15:07.000 And that's what this dish is called. 0.99

00:15:08.000 It's actually called the jackass roll.

00:15:10.000 So we mix it up, we serve it over.

00:15:12.000 The idea about cooking is not just about great food.

00:15:15.000 It's about putting all the pieces.

00:15:17.000 Do you have a sharp knife?

00:15:18.000 Do you understand sanitation?

00:15:20.000 Do you know where to get it from?

00:15:21.000 And do you know how to tie all the components together?

00:15:24.000 You see, my idea about it is, is there's so much more to teach.

00:15:27.000 As a restaurateur, people ask me all the time, how do you do it?

00:15:30.000 I can take the restaurant and bring it to the home, and I think that would be something that would be sellable.

00:15:35.000 My name's Guy Fieri.

00:15:36.000 My friends call me Guido.

00:15:38.000 You can now consider me your friend. 0.96

00:15:40.000 Why did you think that would be ridiculous? 0.87

00:15:42.000 That seems pretty straightforward. 0.75

00:15:45.000 What's the matter, Jamie? 0.98

00:15:46.000 Oh, your switch is fucking up again? 0.98

00:15:51.000 You gotta reboot again? 0.99

00:15:52.000 Go ahead, reboot.

00:15:54.000 No worries.

00:15:55.000 Okay, okay, okay.

00:15:59.000 That seems pretty straightforward.

00:16:00.000 I don't know why you would think that that would somehow or another, like, there's no way they're going to pick you.

00:16:05.000 I was taking it seriously.

00:16:06.000 I wasn't taking it seriously.

00:16:07.000 The whole beginning line was such cool.

00:16:09.000 That's that TV personality.

00:16:10.000 That's like...

00:16:11.000 Yeah.

00:16:11.000 Listen, I didn't one take.

00:16:13.000 That was it.

00:16:15.000 Here we go.

00:16:16.000 You guys happy? 1.00

00:16:17.000 Shit's done. 1.00

00:16:17.000 I don't know why you would think that that would be something they would never pick you from. 1.00

00:16:22.000 Well, I didn't know back then what I know about TV now.

00:16:26.000 Oh, you thought you had to be, like, super professional?

00:16:29.000 Right. 0.98

00:16:30.000 I thought if I talk some shit and I kind of made it a joke and I told them what are they doing, you know, I thought, like, hey, I'll be so, you know. 0.99

00:16:37.000 I mean, that is pretty true to who I am anyway. 0.99

00:16:40.000 What year was that?

00:16:44.000 2005?

00:16:45.000 Yeah, 2005.

00:16:48.000 First show didn't air to 2006.

00:16:50.000 But, yeah, so I sent it to them.

00:16:55.000 And I sent it on a DVD.

00:16:58.000 Because my buddy that filmed it worked at the TV station.

00:17:01.000 And he burned it from the camera and put it on DVD.

00:17:04.000 Back in the old days.

00:17:05.000 So I sent it in.

00:17:07.000 That's it.

00:17:07.000 I did my deal.

00:17:08.000 I said I would do it.

00:17:09.000 I did it.

00:17:10.000 So it gets in.

00:17:12.000 What, three days later?

00:17:15.000 Late at night.

00:17:15.000 10 o 'clock at night.

00:17:16.000 Lori and I are sitting.

00:17:17.000 My wife and I are sitting on the couch watching TV.

00:17:19.000 Home phone rings.

00:17:21.000 She goes, no.

00:17:22.000 She's from Rhode Island.

00:17:23.000 She's from North Providence.

00:17:24.000 So she's a little bit tough on the phone at 10 p.m. 0.89

00:17:27.000 You know, like, who's calling at 10 p.m.?

00:17:28.000 No, I don't know where he is.

00:17:30.000 No, he's not here.

00:17:31.000 I'll take a message.

00:17:33.000 No.

00:17:33.000 Yes.

00:17:34.000 No.

00:17:34.000 She finally covers the phone.

00:17:35.000 She goes, it's the Food Network. 1.00

00:17:38.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:17:39.000 Food Network. 1.00

00:17:40.000 It's one of my buddies being a jerk-off. 0.98

00:17:42.000 So I pick up the phone. 0.98

00:17:42.000 I go, hello, Food Network. 0.98

00:17:44.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:17:45.000 And they said, is this...

00:17:46.000 Guy Ferrari.

00:17:49.000 And I'm like, okay, I know it's not because it was one of my buddies.

00:17:51.000 They would have said, you know, Fieri.

00:17:53.000 So she goes, yeah, we got your DVD and we'd like to talk to you about it.

00:17:58.000 We want you to be on the show.

00:17:59.000 I said, okay, what does that entail?

00:18:01.000 Well, there's a contract that will be on your door tomorrow morning.

00:18:03.000 We FedEx it to you.

00:18:04.000 So I get to FedEx and I look at it and I give it to one of my attorney buddies. 1.00

00:18:09.000 Like, man, they own your ass. 0.99

00:18:11.000 If you sign this, I can own you. 0.99

00:18:13.000 So he redlined a bunch and I sent it back to him.

00:18:15.000 They called me back and they said, "You can't redline the contract that we're sending you.

00:18:19.000 This is like, you want on the show or you don't want on the show." When you say they own you, like, what do you mean?

00:18:24.000 Oh, you know how a contract goes when you get into TV.

00:18:27.000 I mean, there's like, you know, we've got you for 36 months, you can't do any other production, you know, whatever.

00:18:32.000 36 months?

00:18:33.000 I don't know.

00:18:34.000 Don't quote me on any of it.

00:18:35.000 All I know is I had never signed an entertainment contract at that point.

00:18:39.000 Yeah.

00:18:40.000 A lot of them are pretty predatory.

00:18:42.000 They take advantage of the person that doesn't have any exposure.

00:18:45.000 If you're going to become a star, they want to profit massively off it.

00:18:49.000 So that's where my guy said to me, he goes, you have your own restaurant, you're doing your own thing.

00:18:53.000 What are you doing?

00:18:53.000 What are you getting on TV for?

00:18:55.000 Right.

00:18:55.000 And so long story short, I went.

00:18:58.000 Lori and I were pregnant eight and a half months.

00:19:01.000 You were pregnant too? 0.99

00:19:02.000 Yeah, well, that's what I call it.

00:19:03.000 I held the baby weight.

00:19:06.000 But we were pregnant.

00:19:07.000 We got the kid coming.

00:19:08.000 Hunter was four.

00:19:10.000 No, Hunter was...

00:19:10.000 Did you name him after Hunter Thompson?

00:19:12.000 Yes, I did.

00:19:14.000 Did you know that, or are you just saying that?

00:19:15.000 No, I didn't know that.

00:19:16.000 Oh, that's 100%.

00:19:17.000 Because I saw the Hunter Thompson in the hallway, and I saw the Bill Murray interview.

00:19:22.000 I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

00:19:25.000 I don't read a lot, but I read that book probably five times.

00:19:29.000 That's a great book.

00:19:31.000 Such a great book.

00:19:32.000 When I got out of college, I lived in a town I didn't know anybody.

00:19:34.000 I lived in Long Beach.

00:19:35.000 I didn't know anybody.

00:19:36.000 I just worked at this restaurant.

00:19:40.000 I'm not a big TV person, so I just read the book.

00:19:42.000 I read it in college, and I read it again, and I read it again.

00:19:45.000 And it's funny, when you read something again, I got that from the Dale Carnegie book.

00:19:49.000 I read Dale Carnegie, and you have to read it a hundred times, or how many times.

00:19:54.000 I'm just like, man, this guy owns it.

00:19:57.000 This guy lives it.

00:19:58.000 This guy just, you know, what a character.

00:20:00.000 And then the more I read about him, and the more you kind of learn about him.

00:20:03.000 So I told my wife, so we have Hunter and Ryder.

00:20:06.000 Ryder's freshman in...

00:20:08.000 San Diego State.

00:20:09.000 Hunter just graduated with his MBA at University of Miami.

00:20:12.000 That's awesome.

00:20:13.000 Yeah, so that's where Hunter came from.

00:20:14.000 That's great.

00:20:15.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:20:15.000 And my nephew Jules, who's in the middle of the two.

00:20:17.000 We raised Jules.

00:20:18.000 My sister died when Jules was really young.

00:20:20.000 And so Jules just is graduating this Sunday with his degree from Loyola in law.

00:20:26.000 He's in EDM music.

00:20:29.000 He's an agent.

00:20:30.000 Oh, cool.

00:20:31.000 So anyhow, I got on the show.

00:20:33.000 I got there.

00:20:35.000 Everybody's standing there buttoned up in their chef coats.

00:20:37.000 I walk in and I'm in New York.

00:20:39.000 I've never been to New York.

00:20:40.000 I'm in flip-flops and shorts and a yellow leather jacket.

00:20:44.000 And I walk in and everybody's like, you know, all puckered.

00:20:48.000 And I'm like, oh, this is not going to go well. 0.99

00:20:51.000 This is going to be a shit show. 0.99

00:20:53.000 And I just said, you know what? 1.00

00:20:54.000 You got to give it a shot.

00:20:55.000 So I just went in.

00:20:56.000 I was just me.

00:20:57.000 Did what I do.

00:21:00.000 I won.

00:21:00.000 So I won the show.

00:21:01.000 And what this show, What You Win, is a six-episode cooking show, which they ran at 7 a.m. on Saturdays.

00:21:08.000 I mean, it was the worst time slot in the world.

00:21:10.000 But they gave me the show, and I did good.

00:21:13.000 And they gave me another show, and I did the show, and I hated it.

00:21:18.000 I did the pilot, and I hated it.

00:21:20.000 And I'm like, I can't do this.

00:21:22.000 What was that show?

00:21:22.000 It's called Gotta Get It.

00:21:24.000 I don't think you're going to find Jamie.

00:21:26.000 You're not going to find this thing.

00:21:27.000 He'll find it.

00:21:27.000 No, Jesus, please.

00:21:28.000 It was never aired.

00:21:29.000 So what it was, it was a show about kitchen gadgets.

00:21:37.000 And I'm not a kitchen gadget chef.

00:21:40.000 Oh, so it's like you've got to get one of these Cuisinarts.

00:21:45.000 It wasn't even that good.

00:21:46.000 I mean, it was like avocado slicer.

00:21:48.000 If you can't slice an avocado, don't eat it.

00:21:50.000 You've got a problem.

00:21:51.000 But there was a cool one.

00:21:53.000 Oven that talked Bluetooth to your phone.

00:21:55.000 And that was way before Bluetooth stuff was really going on.

00:21:59.000 There was a two-stroke weed eater mower with a blender on it.

00:22:04.000 And that was the coolest one.

00:22:06.000 I made margaritas in that.

00:22:08.000 But the one they gave me that sucked the worst, or the one that I wasn't excited, was they gave me a ball, like a hamster ball.

00:22:15.000 Remember the hamster ball as you put the hamster and run around the house?

00:22:18.000 But you'd pour cream and vanilla and sugar and all this in a ball and then throw ice cubes in it and then you would roll the ball around, kick it around, and it would roll and it would make ice cream.

00:22:28.000 Okay.

00:22:29.000 Yeah.

00:22:29.000 Kind of fun.

00:22:30.000 Yeah.

00:22:31.000 So, not for a guy that has a sushi barbecue restaurant and, you know...

00:22:35.000 Yeah, how long does it take to make ice cream by kicking a ball around?

00:22:38.000 Too long.

00:22:39.000 I was thinking, that's fun, but then I thought, no.

00:22:43.000 How much time?

00:22:44.000 Go kick it when you're in flip-flops.

00:22:45.000 So I did the whole thing, and they called me a couple weeks later, and they said, hey, congratulations.

00:22:50.000 The show got picked up for 13 episodes, primetime.

00:22:53.000 I'm like, oh, I gotta be honest with you.

00:22:57.000 I'm not gonna be able to do that show.

00:22:58.000 Like, what?

00:23:00.000 Like, no, I just, it's not.

00:23:02.000 It went through a series of people, like executive, executive from the production company, the owner of the production company, yelling at me, telling me he wasted time and his money.

00:23:11.000 I said, hey, nobody told me that if this got picked up, I had to go do the show.

00:23:16.000 I thought it was a discovery for you, a discovery for me. 0.93

00:23:18.000 I don't know shit from Steak Sauce about how this all works, which I quickly turned that. 0.91

00:23:23.000 I was not going to be inside of the TV business and not be really aware of what goes on. 0.95

00:23:30.000 Finally, the president of the network called me and she said, you're burning a huge opportunity.

00:23:33.000 Brooke Johnson, you're burning a huge opportunity.

00:23:35.000 I said, Brooke, it's all about, to me, about authenticity.

00:23:40.000 I said, I don't need the paycheck and I don't need, I said, I'm happy with my life.

00:23:44.000 I love what I do.

00:23:45.000 I like my cooking show called Guy's Big Bite.

00:23:48.000 You know, I cook food the way I want.

00:23:49.000 Call it what I want to call it.

00:23:50.000 Make it the way I want to make it.

00:23:52.000 And I said, I just don't, me and gadgets for cooking is just not a thing.

00:23:55.000 She goes, well, you might not ever get a shot like this again. 0.87

00:23:57.000 I said, I really appreciate the opportunity, and I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I just don't want to do it. 0.97

00:24:03.000 And she said, okay. 0.84

00:24:05.000 And that was it.

00:24:07.000 But fortunately, six months later, they called me back and said, we're going to give you one more shot.

00:24:12.000 You're going to be a food critic.

00:24:13.000 I said, nope, thank you.

00:24:15.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:24:16.000 Why not?

00:24:18.000 I said, I'm not a food critic.

00:24:19.000 I'm a cook.

00:24:21.000 The last thing I'm going to do is go in and tell people they're doing it right or wrong.

00:24:24.000 That's like someone going and telling somebody they don't like their art's wrong. 1.00

00:24:28.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:24:28.000 That's not my style. 1.00

00:24:29.000 So they said, well, okay, it's not that.

00:24:31.000 It's not that.

00:24:32.000 You go around.

00:24:33.000 This was the key word.

00:24:35.000 You go around to mom and pop joints and you just eat the food and talk to the people.

00:24:42.000 My God, I can do.

00:24:43.000 That's my style.

00:24:44.000 I said, what's it called?

00:24:46.000 Diners, drivers, divins, and dines.

00:24:49.000 I said, what?

00:24:50.000 They couldn't get the name right.

00:24:51.000 No one ever gets diners, drivers, and dines right.

00:24:53.000 That's why we call it triple D all the time.

00:24:55.000 I said, I could do that.

00:24:56.000 I could do that.

00:24:57.000 That sounds like dives.

00:24:58.000 I love dives.

00:24:59.000 I don't know a lot about diners because we don't have many of them on the West Coast.

00:25:03.000 And drive-ins I love.

00:25:04.000 That was always special to me to go to the A&W drive-in when I was a kid.

00:25:07.000 We didn't eat fast food when I was a kid.

00:25:09.000 So when you went there, that was like big, big deal.

00:25:13.000 And that's how I got going.

00:25:15.000 Wow.

00:25:16.000 Interesting.

00:25:17.000 Yeah, it seems like it's hard to find because once they started making personalities out of chefs, Then you have to find authentic personalities who are good on TV that are actually cooks.

00:25:30.000 So it's kind of a little bit of a dilemma because chefs aren't necessarily the kind of people that you want to have in front of the camera for the most part.

00:25:39.000 I deal with a lot of them.

00:25:40.000 Yeah.

00:25:41.000 But you know what?

00:25:42.000 I think that everybody, when you get people comfortable as, you know, you get people comfortable, you get them talking about themselves, you get them in a zone where they...

00:25:52.000 Feel good and they relax.

00:25:55.000 It's very – it's what you do here.

00:25:57.000 I mean I watch.

00:25:57.000 It's – people have a gift of storytelling or have history and what can people talk best about themselves or their history or their passion and that's what I did with Triple D is I just went in.

00:26:10.000 I remember the first one we ever shot.

00:26:12.000 I'm standing there talking to the guy about the thing, and I'm pouring coffee behind my back.

00:26:15.000 People are bitching at the counter because we're right in the middle of an active service in the diner.

00:26:19.000 I'm pouring coffee, and pancake's burning, and I flip the guy's pancake.

00:26:22.000 And I'm like, so how long have you been making the, you know, yeah, hang on a second.

00:26:26.000 He needs an order back, you know.

00:26:28.000 And I asked all my questions I was supposed to ask.

00:26:31.000 And the producer at the end goes, cut, cut, cut, cut.

00:26:35.000 I said, come here.

00:26:36.000 I said, what the hell was that?

00:26:38.000 I said, slow your roll, bro.

00:26:42.000 I said, I asked every question you asked me to ask.

00:26:44.000 I said, I didn't stand there and do it like PM Magazine. 0.99

00:26:47.000 You know, I was in the mix with the dude, but I asked all the goddamn questions. 0.98

00:26:51.000 And he's like, can you do that again? 0.99

00:26:53.000 I said, I just stand on my head.

00:26:54.000 This is what we do in the restaurant business.

00:26:56.000 I said, we work and we talk and we joke and we laugh and we bust balls and we do, you know, that's what we do.

00:27:01.000 He throws his clipboard on the ground.

00:27:03.000 We've got a hit.

00:27:04.000 And then we went around the country for the next three weeks and shot more locations and put that together into the pitch.

00:27:09.000 So I understand, was he pretending to be upset or was he upset until you explained it to him?

00:27:14.000 He was kind of an upset guy.

00:27:15.000 Oh, fun.

00:27:17.000 But it worked out.

00:27:18.000 That's the problem with TV, dealing with upset people.

00:27:21.000 Well, and the thing is, especially people that don't understand TV.

00:27:24.000 So when I started Triple D, I just treated my fellow chefs, restaurant owners, like we were in the kitchen.

00:27:32.000 Have fun.

00:27:33.000 I tell them all the time, I want you to say whatever you want to say. 1.00

00:27:36.000 If you want to drop 50 F-bombs, if you drop a thing on the floor, if you shit, god damn, if it's not right, don't worry. 1.00

00:27:43.000 We'll stop, we'll fix it, and we'll go forward. 1.00

00:27:46.000 But I'm never going to make you look bad.

00:27:48.000 I promise you that.

00:27:48.000 I'll never make you look bad.

00:27:50.000 You'll look great.

00:27:51.000 Sometimes we stop, I go, hold up, let's hold up, let's hold up.

00:27:54.000 What do you drink?

00:27:56.000 Jack.

00:27:57.000 Can we get him a shot of Jack, please? 0.99

00:27:59.000 You know, they'll sit there and shoot the shit about his favorite team or talk about it. 0.99

00:28:02.000 I always start talking about people's family right off the bat. 0.99

00:28:04.000 Talk about family kind of puts people on the same playing field.

00:28:10.000 Hmm.

00:28:11.000 Not a game.

00:28:12.000 Just a reality.

00:28:13.000 No, I understand.

00:28:14.000 I get it.

00:28:16.000 Well, that sounds like a fun thing to just drive around and go to people's restaurants.

00:28:21.000 See how they do things and see the history behind it and what was their dream?

00:28:26.000 How satisfying is it to have this place and meet all these people?

00:28:31.000 You meet the people that are just, I mean, bring tears to your eyes.

00:28:35.000 There's so many stories, so many.

00:28:37.000 We've done, like, almost 1,600 locations.

00:28:41.000 And it's just mind-blowing to be in the restaurant business and to watch these people.

00:28:49.000 What they've put into it and how many sacrifices they've made and then how many success stories we hear.

00:28:57.000 And it's just, it is probably one of the most fulfilling things I've ever done in my life.

00:29:01.000 You know, it's really, I would have been done by now.

00:29:03.000 I mean, as a matter of fact, when we first started the show, I thought, oh, this would be fun to do for a couple of years.

00:29:07.000 I'll probably run out of places.

00:29:10.000 This show could live on forever.

00:29:12.000 How many years have you been doing it now?

00:29:14.000 16. 16 years.

00:29:16.000 That's crazy.

00:29:21.000 That's crazy.

00:29:22.000 But it does some great things for them.

00:29:24.000 I'm sure it's great for their businesses, right?

00:29:26.000 It must be a huge boom.

00:29:28.000 We're shooting right now.

00:29:29.000 We're shooting in town right now.

00:29:30.000 In Austin?

00:29:31.000 Yeah, we just shot this morning.

00:29:32.000 Where'd you shoot?

00:29:33.000 Shot a place called the Bolden Creek Cafe.

00:29:37.000 Vegan joint.

00:29:39.000 And I shouldn't even say it like that.

00:29:40.000 I should just say Bolden Creek Cafe, an awesome restaurant.

00:29:43.000 No, you should say vegan.

00:29:45.000 You should let everybody know.

00:29:46.000 But here's the thing.

00:29:47.000 I think when I say vegan, people are like, Oh, so you kind of got to give them their shot.

00:29:53.000 No?

00:29:54.000 I wasn't thinking that.

00:29:55.000 I was just thinking, you know, I have some vegan friends.

00:29:58.000 If they only wanted to eat at a vegan restaurant, I would take them there.

00:30:01.000 It's so good, I'd just go eat there as it is.

00:30:04.000 And that's what I, when I interview people at vegan restaurants or vegetarian restaurants, I'll say, do your non-vegan vegetarian friends come here?

00:30:10.000 Or I'll ask people.

00:30:11.000 Usually 50% of them that I'm talking to aren't vegan.

00:30:14.000 They just go there because the food's great.

00:30:16.000 There's a vegetarian place that I used to love to go to in Woodland Hills that was an Indian joint, like super authentic Indian.

00:30:25.000 It was in this little strip mall, and I would go in there, and all the menu was in Hindi.

00:30:32.000 Everybody was speaking.

00:30:34.000 It was...

00:30:36.000 You kind of look at the photos that they had of the dishes and just like, that one, give me that one.

00:30:42.000 Spicy, not spicy.

00:30:44.000 All vegetarian, but like super authentic.

00:30:48.000 And, you know, that's not even necessarily what I'm interested in, but I would go there all the time.

00:30:53.000 I want to eat great food.

00:30:54.000 I want to eat food that's prepared correctly.

00:30:56.000 Yeah.

00:30:57.000 So it's kind of like saying, I didn't mean to throw the vegan thing on it because really what it is, it's about great restaurants.

00:31:06.000 With really great people that own it or people that have a good story and then people that want to talk about what the food, they talk about what they do.

00:31:12.000 Did you ask them why they decided to make a vegan restaurant?

00:31:16.000 She's vegan.

00:31:17.000 And she had a coffee shop, started with a coffee shop and then was doing a little bit of food on the side and then just continued to grow and make it bigger and bigger. 0.93

00:31:27.000 It's so funny.

00:31:27.000 I drive up and they got a big neon that says caffeine dealer.

00:31:32.000 And I'm like, that's my kind of energy.

00:31:35.000 That's my kind of smartass.

00:31:36.000 You've got to have fun with yourself. 1.00

00:31:37.000 You've got to laugh about this shit. 1.00

00:31:39.000 And just great character. 1.00

00:31:41.000 I'm actually probably getting my ass kicked from the network right now going through telling about this ahead of time. 0.95

00:31:45.000 But no, there's great... 0.96

00:31:47.000 I haven't been to Austin a few years shooting Triple D, but I'll come back to a city and new places have popped up.

00:31:53.000 Or we start to find out more about them.

00:31:55.000 Have you been to Travis Barker's place?

00:31:57.000 No.

00:31:58.000 I've heard that place is phenomenal.

00:31:59.000 And that's a fully vegan place in LA.

00:32:03.000 Was it called Crossroads Cafe?

00:32:05.000 Yeah, I've heard from many of my friends.

00:32:08.000 Like Dana White went there. 1.00

00:32:09.000 He's like, dude, it's phenomenal.

00:32:10.000 You can't believe it's vegan.

00:32:12.000 That's the thing about it is people have this stereotype about vegan food.

00:32:17.000 For a good reason.

00:32:19.000 You and I like, listen, you and I like wild game.

00:32:21.000 You and I like meat and so forth.

00:32:23.000 But if you really look about it, you're...

00:32:24.000 Well, there's just enough vegan people that are really annoying.

00:32:28.000 That I won't disagree.

00:32:30.000 There's enough that are wonderful people.

00:32:31.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:32:32.000 But there's a percentage of vegan people that are, like, hugely annoying.

00:32:37.000 Well, and especially when they start...

00:32:38.000 Here's the thing.

00:32:39.000 Proselytizing.

00:32:40.000 Yeah.

00:32:41.000 Don't push yourself into somebody else's lane.

00:32:44.000 Do what you want to do and do what you love.

00:32:45.000 But don't go and...

00:32:46.000 I'm not into preaching.

00:32:48.000 I'm not into trying to change...

00:32:50.000 Have your opinion.

00:32:51.000 Have your attitude.

00:32:51.000 Yeah, that's the problem with the whole vegan thing, is that the people, they...

00:32:55.000 Represent themselves as morally superior.

00:32:58.000 And it's not all of them.

00:32:59.000 Some of them do it just because they're kind people and that's how they want to eat.

00:33:02.000 And that's wonderful.

00:33:03.000 I think that happens in a lot of different sections.

00:33:07.000 I mean, there's people about heavy metal.

00:33:09.000 You don't like heavy metal. 1.00

00:33:10.000 You're an idiot. 1.00

00:33:11.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:33:12.000 There's people like that with yoga.

00:33:14.000 They just start doing yoga.

00:33:15.000 They want everybody to do yoga.

00:33:16.000 Yeah, I get it.

00:33:17.000 Well, I'll tell you a funny story.

00:33:20.000 I was running restaurants down in Long Beach.

00:33:23.000 And then I was in Redondo Beach.

00:33:25.000 And I'm running a little restaurant down there called Luis's.

00:33:28.000 Tiny little pasta joint.

00:33:29.000 Pizza and pasta.

00:33:31.000 And there was a bunch of them in LA at the time.

00:33:33.000 And then I eventually became the district manager for them.

00:33:36.000 And I was young.

00:33:37.000 I was very young in my career.

00:33:39.000 But Hoyce Gracie used to come in. 1.00

00:33:41.000 The Gracie family was right down the street in Redondo Beach.

00:33:45.000 And I remember somehow through a manager, through one of the guys, we got a UFC videotape.

00:33:55.000 VHS.

00:33:56.000 Someone had...

00:33:57.000 I don't know what it was.

00:33:58.000 I'd never seen it.

00:33:59.000 I hadn't even heard of it.

00:34:01.000 And that was the first time that we ever came aware to, you know, this...

00:34:07.000 And then, who was it?

00:34:08.000 Tank Abbott was down in Huntington Beach.

00:34:10.000 And we used to go down...

00:34:11.000 And I used to live by Huntington.

00:34:12.000 So we used to go down there and the Tank Abbott thing and the T-door thing, you know, this whole thing.

00:34:16.000 But, you know, I mean, you're so ingrained in it.

00:34:18.000 You're such a massive part of it that, you know, if anybody wants to start getting on a high horse about stuff, I'm like...

00:34:23.000 As soon as you know enough about it, and as soon as you have a platform that you really can say something, then speak your piece.

00:34:29.000 But don't shove it down people's throat.

00:34:31.000 I mean, I'm just not...

00:34:32.000 You can do about anything.

00:34:33.000 Yeah.

00:34:33.000 You know.

00:34:34.000 No, that's a big one when people start doing jujitsu and they only want to...

00:34:38.000 Tell everybody about jujitsu.

00:34:39.000 The vegan thing, though, is like I really do get it from their perspective, like as an ethical perspective.

00:34:46.000 It's just one of those things where if there's a thing that you're trying to do, where you're trying to be kind, you're going to get a certain percentage of people that start doing that that get annoying.

00:34:58.000 Yeah.

00:34:58.000 I just choose not to listen to annoying people.

00:35:01.000 I just tune it out. 0.98

00:35:02.000 I don't have fucking time for it. 0.99

00:35:03.000 I really don't have time for it. 0.98

00:35:05.000 I mean, there's so much else going on in my life and so much else going on in this world. 0.95

00:35:09.000 I think, why don't we start focusing all the good shit we can do? 0.99

00:35:12.000 We can do so much great shit. 0.99

00:35:14.000 If everybody would pivot themselves 10% and just go and look and say, take everything you love and then go do that more. 0.99

00:35:22.000 And be worried less about what somebody's saying about you or what's going on on social media or whatever this other shit may be. 0.81

00:35:27.000 Just go do something positive. 0.98

00:35:29.000 It's a social media contagion.

00:35:31.000 It's a problem.

00:35:32.000 It's a real problem.

00:35:33.000 When will it break is the question. 1.00

00:35:35.000 Like when will it stop being the center of shit? 1.00

00:35:38.000 When people just start looking at it and go, okay, we're done. 1.00

00:35:41.000 We've had enough of it.

00:35:42.000 It's run its course.

00:35:43.000 It's been poisonous enough.

00:35:45.000 I mean, there's positive things to it.

00:35:46.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:35:47.000 I think there's some really good information that you can get from it.

00:35:52.000 You know, I always say to these young chefs that are on my shows, like, oh, somebody wrote about me.

00:35:58.000 And I'm like, A, quit reading about yourself.

00:36:01.000 B, look at the source.

00:36:03.000 Now, if I come up to you and I tell you that your food sucks, or I tell you that you're doing something that's wrong, you know, we're friends.

00:36:08.000 You can maybe take my opinion with some credit. 1.00

00:36:11.000 But the jerk-off that's writing about you in his mom's basement eating Cheetos in his underwear, you know, clucking away, telling you how much you suck. 1.00

00:36:20.000 I said, do you really care what that guy thinks? 1.00

00:36:22.000 The problem is that people see it written down, and they think it's almost like a valid source, and then they have to combat it.

00:36:29.000 But you're going to combat...

00:36:31.000 35 million people, or however many million people are tweeting about things.

00:36:36.000 And how many extra accounts they have.

00:36:38.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that.

00:36:39.000 And there's a lot of people that aren't even real.

00:36:40.000 But it's also just the nature of it highlights negativity.

00:36:47.000 Because the nature of this platform, what gets traction is things that make people upset.

00:36:54.000 Well, it's what media used, I mean, it still is.

00:36:56.000 You don't hear the front page of the paper talking about...

00:37:00.000 All the good that somebody does and all the money they've raised or all the benefit they've given or all the experiences they've offered.

00:37:06.000 What you hear about is the negative, the death.

00:37:10.000 Yeah, it's a problem because it's monetized, right?

00:37:13.000 It's a problem because that's how people make money and they don't think of it in terms of the impact that it's having on the culture.

00:37:22.000 Yeah, I mean, that's how they're making money.

00:37:25.000 They make money by getting people, or it used to be, by getting people to buy newspapers and tune into the news.

00:37:31.000 And because of that, what's going to get people's eyes glued?

00:37:34.000 Not positive stories and inspirational stories, but rather whatever the chaos is anywhere in the world. 0.96

00:37:40.000 And exaggerate it to make it the most salacious and the most ridiculous.

00:37:44.000 How much can we spend, regardless if it's true or not?

00:37:47.000 I mean, that's what's been killing me, is all of the truth, non-truth.

00:37:51.000 Where's the medium?

00:37:52.000 Who's the governing body?

00:37:54.000 Is anybody going to hold anybody's feet to the fire on this?

00:37:57.000 No.

00:37:58.000 I wish there could be a punishment.

00:37:59.000 You lied.

00:38:00.000 Yeah, but it's up to us.

00:38:02.000 It's up to us to ignore them. 1.00

00:38:03.000 Once you know that they're full of shit, and once you know that they lie, take away their power. 1.00

00:38:07.000 The way you take away their power is just not pay attention to them. 1.00

00:38:11.000 And they do it to themselves.

00:38:13.000 I mean, in general, mainstream media has kind of, over the last...

00:38:18.000 You know, eight, nine years has exposed themselves as being wholly corrupt, very corrupt and full of lies and propaganda and ignoring positive aspects of people because they don't fit with your political agenda.

00:38:33.000 It's just – and it has a negative effect downstream of the entire civilization because it's just like everybody's at everybody's throats and they're being – Fed all this negativity.

00:38:46.000 First through mainstream media, and then it's all accentuated by Twitter and Facebook and Instagram.

00:38:53.000 No, it's poisonous.

00:38:55.000 And it poisons the culture.

00:38:56.000 And fortunately, we're moving away from it, but there still is.

00:39:00.000 Are we?

00:39:00.000 Well, I think there's a mass group that is still, you know...

00:39:04.000 Buying into it and being the sheep and going along with it. 0.77

00:39:07.000 You're not following it.

00:39:08.000 I'm not following it.

00:39:10.000 Yeah, but we're public people.

00:39:11.000 It's like it's wise for your health to not follow it, you know?

00:39:14.000 True, but I hope.

00:39:16.000 And again, I don't have any prescription to it.

00:39:18.000 I follow the same mantra you're saying.

00:39:20.000 Quit tuning in.

00:39:22.000 Quit paying attention.

00:39:23.000 Quit passing it along. 1.00

00:39:25.000 Quit reading the bullshit. 1.00

00:39:26.000 You don't know if it's true or not. 1.00

00:39:27.000 Just talk about what you know.

00:39:31.000 And talk about what you believe and be who you are.

00:39:34.000 And quit trying to... 1.00

00:39:36.000 Just quit negative shit. 1.00

00:39:39.000 Keep it out of your mouth. 1.00

00:39:41.000 Yeah.

00:39:41.000 It's a problem because it's so addictive.

00:39:45.000 People are constantly checking it.

00:39:47.000 And when you're bored, you immediately grab your phone.

00:39:50.000 And then what do you do?

00:39:51.000 You open up social media.

00:39:52.000 What's everybody yelling at?

00:39:53.000 What are they upset about?

00:39:55.000 What's your social media that you go to?

00:39:57.000 Mostly Twitter.

00:39:58.000 Because it's the only one that's free.

00:40:00.000 In terms of, like, free speech, like, legitimate free speech.

00:40:04.000 Call it X, whatever.

00:40:05.000 I'm still going to call it Twitter.

00:40:07.000 I hate when they say Twitter, X, fully known as Twitter.

00:40:11.000 Yeah.

00:40:11.000 Okay, it's been two years, three years.

00:40:13.000 I know, but nobody calls it X. Everybody calls it Twitter.

00:40:16.000 Very few people call it X. Everybody calls it Twitter.

00:40:17.000 Why did he change it, anyway? 0.99

00:40:18.000 Because he's crazy. 0.77

00:40:19.000 Same reason why he bought it.

00:40:21.000 I saw the picture of you shooting the bow at the Tesla.

00:40:24.000 That's crazy.

00:40:25.000 Yeah.

00:40:26.000 I heard the tip came right off and came right back at you.

00:40:28.000 Yeah, it blew apart.

00:40:30.000 Yeah, it's thick steel.

00:40:31.000 Do you think it was going to go through?

00:40:32.000 I think if I had a reinforced arrow, so like, you know, there's companies that may look super durable, like much heavier grain arrows, and maybe an iron will broadhead, but like a single bevel, two blade.

00:40:49.000 I had a three-blade, too much of a big cutting surface.

00:40:52.000 I need a smaller surface.

00:40:54.000 I thought about it for a lot afterwards.

00:40:56.000 And I may try it again with goggles on and behind it.

00:41:00.000 No, I wasn't worried about it hitting me.

00:41:02.000 But it's pretty impressive. 0.59

00:41:05.000 I mean, you could actually shoot a...

00:41:06.000 I think you could shoot a 40... 0.98

00:41:09.000 What round will that... 0.97

00:41:14.000 I don't want to lie.

00:41:15.000 I know a 9mm will bounce right off of it, but what round is that capable of?

00:41:18.000 Will a 9mm bounce off of it?

00:41:20.000 Bounce right off of it.

00:41:21.000 No.

00:41:21.000 Yep.

00:41:22.000 But not the windows.

00:41:24.000 No, not the windows.

00:41:25.000 No.

00:41:25.000 What do it cost to get the windows done?

00:41:27.000 You can get the windows done.

00:41:28.000 Easy.

00:41:28.000 Have you driven one?

00:41:30.000 Yeah.

00:41:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:31.000 I heard they're amazing.

00:41:32.000 My buddy has one.

00:41:33.000 I drove my Tesla here today.

00:41:34.000 Oh, you have one?

00:41:35.000 I don't have a Cybertruck.

00:41:36.000 I have a Model S. He says you push the button and the car will come get you.

00:41:39.000 Oh, yeah, it'll do that.

00:41:40.000 Okay.

00:41:42.000 The body was saying 9mm handgun, 22 caliber rifle, has not bulletproof against all calibers.

00:41:48.000 So when you get higher, like an AR-15, well, 50 caliber, of course, is going to penetrate everything.

00:41:55.000 Trucks metal, also crack of shots are fired close together.

00:42:02.000 But either way.

00:42:03.000 Why would you do that? 1.00

00:42:05.000 Why are you making a car like that, you fucking psycho? 1.00

00:42:07.000 It's really kind of crazy. 0.99

00:42:09.000 And I think you can't sell them in some countries because they're so durable that it's like a danger to other cars on the road.

00:42:19.000 Because you would hope that if a...

00:42:24.000 Celica hits a Prius.

00:42:26.000 They're both going to kind of crush equally.

00:42:28.000 What did you pick up Celica?

00:42:30.000 That dates us.

00:42:31.000 People still have those.

00:42:32.000 Celicas were awesome.

00:42:33.000 I heard they were remaking that.

00:42:35.000 That's why.

00:42:36.000 I heard that they're going to bring back a Celica.

00:42:39.000 Celicas are awesome.

00:42:40.000 Oh, yeah, man.

00:42:41.000 What was your favorite of all time American muscle car?

00:42:44.000 Oh, that's hard.

00:42:46.000 That's hard.

00:42:47.000 I love them.

00:42:48.000 I got a lot of them.

00:42:49.000 I love...

00:42:50.000 Are they bringing back Celicas?

00:42:54.000 Might be an AI thing.

00:42:56.000 I heard something about it.

00:42:57.000 I don't have a favorite, but it's all...

00:43:00.000 I like between early...

00:43:02.000 You can get as low as 65 for a couple of them.

00:43:06.000 Like, I have a 65 Corvette that I love.

00:43:08.000 And then I think you get as old as 71 if you get into, like, the Barracudas and the Challengers, some of the Mopars.

00:43:15.000 But by 71, most of the Fords and the Chevys had fallen apart.

00:43:21.000 For whatever reason.

00:43:22.000 I think because they stopped doing drugs.

00:43:24.000 That's what I think.

00:43:25.000 I have a theory.

00:43:26.000 I have my psychedelic theory.

00:43:30.000 I've heard a lot of reasons they've stopped.

00:43:32.000 More EPA issues.

00:43:34.000 Well, EPA issues as well, but why make them ugly?

00:43:36.000 You can make them feel efficient without making them so ugly.

00:43:40.000 Something happened.

00:43:41.000 They lost their design language and everything started being flat and boring.

00:43:46.000 Except Corvette.

00:43:47.000 Corvette is another one.

00:43:49.000 They made good-looking Corvettes deep into the 70s because they still have that curvy body. 0.98

00:43:55.000 But if I had...

00:43:57.000 I don't know.

00:43:58.000 Well, Bowtie Mopar or Ford.

00:44:01.000 I love them all.

00:44:03.000 I'm not picking one.

00:44:05.000 I love them all.

00:44:06.000 I mean, I have a 70 Cuda.

00:44:07.000 I love that.

00:44:08.000 I have a 68 Mustang.

00:44:09.000 I love that.

00:44:10.000 I just...

00:44:12.000 Love that era of automobile.

00:44:15.000 And it's just like, it's also that era of culture.

00:44:19.000 I love the music and the fact that life was chaotic and, you know, there were so many changes in the culture.

00:44:28.000 There were so many changes in society.

00:44:30.000 Things were just, each year made up.

00:44:32.000 Yeah, I mean, they went from Buddy Holly to Jimi Hendrix in a decade.

00:44:35.000 And everything was like, what is...

00:44:39.000 What's the baseline now?

00:44:41.000 My favorite movie is that Buddy Holly movie.

00:44:43.000 Oh, yeah?

00:44:44.000 With Gary Busey.

00:44:44.000 Remember that?

00:44:45.000 Buddy Holly and the Crickets and Gary Busey.

00:44:47.000 Oh, it was great.

00:44:47.000 That was a great flick.

00:44:49.000 No, I brought the Triple D Camaro.

00:44:53.000 That's...

00:44:53.000 I brought it...

00:44:53.000 I drove it over.

00:44:54.000 What is the Triple D Camaro?

00:44:55.000 68 Camaro.

00:44:56.000 Oh, nice.

00:44:56.000 It's a 68 Camaro on an LT4.

00:44:58.000 It's basically a 2022 Corvette with a 68 body on it.

00:45:04.000 Oh, okay.

00:45:05.000 I made two of them.

00:45:05.000 I've had...

00:45:06.000 A few different cars inside of the show.

00:45:08.000 Did you take the new Camaro and cut the body panels off and put the new ones on?

00:45:12.000 No, it took an old 68. There it is.

00:45:14.000 Oh, nice.

00:45:15.000 That's me driving it out, too.

00:45:17.000 So we just made that car.

00:45:18.000 I made two of them.

00:45:20.000 No, that's not the picture of that.

00:45:22.000 But it is that car.

00:45:23.000 So we made two of them.

00:45:25.000 I had that one for the longest time.

00:45:27.000 So you put a different chassis in it and everything?

00:45:29.000 Yeah.

00:45:29.000 Detroit Racing's chassis.

00:45:30.000 Oh, okay.

00:45:31.000 Great.

00:45:31.000 But it's...

00:45:33.000 I mean, it's just a monster.

00:45:34.000 LT4, Tremac 5-speed.

00:45:36.000 It's just...

00:45:36.000 But my boys were sitting there...

00:45:37.000 That's what I like.

00:45:38.000 Resto mods.

00:45:39.000 I don't want to drive something with drum brakes.

00:45:42.000 It doesn't stop. 1.00

00:45:43.000 Those are stupid. 1.00

00:45:44.000 Well, it's so funny to think... 1.00

00:45:45.000 I have a Trans Am and a bandit car.

00:45:49.000 And it's great, and I love it, and it's a great car.

00:45:51.000 And you drive it, and it's so nostalgic to drive, and it feels so good, and it doesn't rattle and all that.

00:45:58.000 But boy, you know...

00:45:59.000 My assistant's Camry can probably take it from the line.

00:46:05.000 Oh yeah, a Model 3 will leave you in the dust.

00:46:06.000 The Tesla? 1.00

00:46:08.000 Those Teslas are fast as shit. 0.99

00:46:11.000 Yeah, that's, I mean, as far as pure performance, there's nothing like those things. 1.00

00:46:16.000 Everything else is stupid. 1.00

00:46:18.000 Oh, is this what it is? 1.00

00:46:19.000 Is this real?

00:46:20.000 Nothing official has been announced about this Celica. 0.98

00:46:22.000 Damn, that looks good. 0.94

00:46:25.000 6-speed manual transmission. 0.99

00:46:29.000 Oh, that's Forbes, dude.

00:46:31.000 Click on Forbes.

00:46:31.000 It's not showing up.

00:46:32.000 I've tried to click on it a million times.

00:46:34.000 I'm only getting...

00:46:35.000 I have to get the ads out of it, and then there's no pictures that show up.

00:46:38.000 Well, the one below it looks like...

00:46:39.000 That one that says 2025, that looks like a Dark Horse Mustang.

00:46:43.000 That doesn't even look like a Toyota.

00:46:45.000 Most of these are all, I think, AI-generated pictures.

00:46:48.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that.

00:46:50.000 Isn't that weirdo?

00:46:51.000 Yeah.

00:46:51.000 You can go on, and you can...

00:46:52.000 I fell for the Scarface 2 movie.

00:46:55.000 Oh, did you?

00:46:56.000 Yeah, there was something going on.

00:46:57.000 Maybe I had a couple of shots of Santa.

00:46:59.000 I was drinking a little bit.

00:47:00.000 But I was like, Scarface 2!

00:47:02.000 And they did this whole AI thing, and I'm like...

00:47:05.000 What I've been loving is little Theo Vaughn as a baby.

00:47:10.000 What's that?

00:47:11.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:12.000 Theo Vaughn as a baby is my absolute favorite.

00:47:15.000 The AI babies that take podcast clips and have babies.

00:47:21.000 We were just having a security discussion the other day about...

00:47:25.000 You know, having so many words of mine on the internet or on TV or whatever, and then someone could put together a whole sentence.

00:47:31.000 And, you know, the security person said, you know, what would you do if they sent a message to your wife and made it sound like you?

00:47:38.000 I travel a lot.

00:47:39.000 I'm, you know, so-and-so.

00:47:40.000 And, you know, I need such...

00:47:41.000 I'm in Mexico and I need a hundred thousand bucks.

00:47:44.000 I'm, you know, locked up.

00:47:46.000 What would you guys do?

00:47:48.000 You know, and I'm like, that's a real thing?

00:47:50.000 Like, no, that is a real thing.

00:47:52.000 They're starting to extort money from people.

00:47:53.000 And, you know, granted, they're usually doing it to older people and so forth, but it's a real—this AI threat's a real thing.

00:47:59.000 Yeah, that's one of the real things.

00:48:01.000 Yeah.

00:48:01.000 We're going to encounter a lot of unprecedented challenges to reality over the next few years.

00:48:08.000 And there's nothing you can do about it.

00:48:10.000 I mean, they're going to try.

00:48:12.000 To figure out ways to stop it while it's happening.

00:48:15.000 I think they're farther ahead of us.

00:48:18.000 Yeah, the technology is just...

00:48:20.000 It's reality-bending technology.

00:48:23.000 You could essentially, right now, just from the podcast that you and I have had so far, us talking, you could have us say anything forever. 0.87

00:48:32.000 They could do podcasts where you and I discuss fucking computer chips, the construction of them, Conversations about nuanced details of the technology that we don't understand. 0.85

00:48:47.000 It could be anything, a big foreign policy. 0.98

00:48:49.000 You could talk about anything, and it would all be AI-generated and no one would be able to tell.

00:48:56.000 There's a whole podcast out there of me talking to Steve Jobs.

00:49:00.000 I never met Steve Jobs. 1.00

00:49:02.000 No shit? 0.99

00:49:02.000 No. 0.99

00:49:03.000 Not no shit, you didn't meet Steve Jobs. 1.00

00:49:05.000 No shit on both of them. 1.00

00:49:07.000 I think it's like a 45-minute podcast of me and Steve Jobs having a conversation. 0.99

00:49:11.000 I never met him.

00:49:12.000 That's crazy.

00:49:12.000 They could do anything with your voice, man.

00:49:14.000 And it's like a little weird, like you can kind of tell it's fake.

00:49:18.000 But this is like, imagine if you go back just a few years ago, the AI-generated deep fakes of celebrities were super obvious.

00:49:27.000 And now they're not obvious at all.

00:49:29.000 Remember the Tom Cruise one?

00:49:30.000 That was the first one I ever saw.

00:49:34.000 And we're just on the cusp of it.

00:49:36.000 I think it's even deeper and more convoluted, more screwed up than we know.

00:49:40.000 But it's going to become something we're going to have to face because they're just so far ahead of our legislation that's even interested in trying to control it.

00:49:49.000 I don't even think they know what to control. 1.00

00:49:51.000 It's scary shit. 0.99

00:49:52.000 It is, but it's also like what is reality going to be? 0.99

00:49:56.000 Because what you're seeing right now is just a visual representation of what AI can do.

00:50:01.000 But what about once it starts being able to recreate experiences?

00:50:05.000 Because that's coming.

00:50:07.000 I mean, whether it's 20 years or 50 years, there's going to come a time, if you stay alive long enough, where you're not going to have to experience things.

00:50:15.000 You're going to be able to sit down and...

00:50:17.000 You know, just like the Matrix, it's just going to plug you in and you're going to experience something.

00:50:22.000 Okay.

00:50:23.000 Okay.

00:50:24.000 We're a little bit of the same age.

00:50:26.000 Do you not trip out that Dick Tracy had a square watch that looked like an Apple Watch?

00:50:31.000 It's kind of crazy.

00:50:32.000 Yeah.

00:50:33.000 They would talk to it and everybody's like, that's nuts.

00:50:35.000 He's talking to his watch.

00:50:36.000 Okay, so did we...

00:50:37.000 This is like we should be drinking or something should be going on.

00:50:41.000 What happened?

00:50:42.000 Did Apple just, did we influence enough Apple people that they just decided to make it a square watch and make it look like Dick Tracy's watch? 0.99

00:50:48.000 Or did the Dick Tracy thing, did we already make the watch and did somebody go back and, I mean, do you ever sit there and trip on shit like that? 0.99

00:50:54.000 I definitely don't. 0.99

00:50:54.000 You don't. 0.99

00:50:55.000 No, not about that.

00:50:56.000 I think Square is just a normal shape for a frame.

00:51:01.000 Not a watch you talk into, though.

00:51:04.000 Yeah, but it's just a screen.

00:51:05.000 Star Trek?

00:51:06.000 It's just a tiny screen. 0.99

00:51:07.000 Yeah, but the Star Trek thing was a fucking walkie-talkie. 0.96

00:51:10.000 Kirk out, and they'd hang up. 0.96

00:51:11.000 But then we made the Star Trek.

00:51:13.000 Yeah.

00:51:14.000 But that was also, you know, life-imitating art.

00:51:19.000 It's not art.

00:51:20.000 Okay, we'll go back to Matrix then.

00:51:23.000 Because I think of the Matrix things all the time.

00:51:25.000 Like, how real, how possible is that?

00:51:30.000 We used to watch that cartoon.

00:51:31.000 There was a movie my kid watched when he was little about the people that all went and lived.

00:51:35.000 It wasn't too long.

00:51:36.000 It was maybe 10, 15 years ago.

00:51:37.000 About the people all lived in a spaceship and the little robot and the plant grew and everybody was heavyset.

00:51:43.000 Nobody walked.

00:51:44.000 They were all in space.

00:51:46.000 What is it called?

00:51:48.000 Was it WALL-E?

00:51:49.000 At the little robot thing?

00:51:50.000 Oh, the movie, yeah.

00:51:51.000 Yeah, the movie thing?

00:51:52.000 The Pixar movie.

00:51:53.000 Yeah.

00:51:53.000 And you sit there and look at that stuff and you're like, wow.

00:51:55.000 Yeah, that's what's really happening.

00:52:00.000 Okay, so you didn't buy my Dick Tracy idea, but I think that the other stuff is, I don't know.

00:52:05.000 Well, when you think about where this is all headed, there's only a few different directions that one could go to, and simulated reality is a big one.

00:52:14.000 I think that's inevitable.

00:52:16.000 Because I think you're going to get more sedentary people, more people that are very uncomfortable with their own lives and want to live a different life, and then you're going to be able to have experiences.

00:52:26.000 Just like when kids play Call of Duty all day long.

00:52:30.000 Like, what are they doing?

00:52:31.000 They're playing war with zero consequences, where they're able to kill people with zero consequences, get killed, respawn.

00:52:40.000 And they're doing it all day long just for the experience.

00:52:43.000 Well, what happens when that experience is far more vivid?

00:52:48.000 You're feeling things.

00:52:49.000 You feel gravity.

00:52:51.000 Your feet feel the concrete underneath you and the gravel you're stepping on.

00:52:55.000 They're going to be able to recreate all that stuff.

00:52:58.000 Whether they do it with an implant or whether they do it with a helmet that you wear that sort of interacts with your brain, sends signals into your visual cortex and recreates experiences.

00:53:08.000 It's coming.

00:53:09.000 You're taking this way past my Dick Tracy watch thing.

00:53:11.000 Yeah, look at this robot.

00:53:13.000 Oh, I saw this yesterday.

00:53:14.000 Yeah, look at this dancing robot. 0.72

00:53:16.000 That looks so weird.

00:53:18.000 It's so weird because they're moving like a human moves. 0.98

00:53:22.000 And then eventually they're going to realize this human design kind of sucks. 0.86

00:53:26.000 Let's make something that's better than a human. 0.79

00:53:28.000 Did you see the one where the robot whacked out?

00:53:30.000 The AI robot went crazy and they were trying to stop it.

00:53:33.000 Oh, yeah, in China.

00:53:33.000 It started flailing on everybody.

00:53:38.000 Well, it's going to be powered by AI and AI is not going to probably have the best opinion of us because a lot of us are annoying. 0.99

00:53:47.000 Deep shit. 0.99

00:53:48.000 Yeah, it's weird. 1.00

00:53:49.000 We're talking about food and cars and...

00:53:53.000 Yeah.

00:53:53.000 That's deep.

00:53:54.000 It's a weird time.

00:53:55.000 It's a weird time for change because we're like riding this technological wave and we don't know when it's going to break and where it's going to break.

00:54:03.000 What's going to happen?

00:54:03.000 Are we cart and horse?

00:54:05.000 Are we horse and buggy and automobile?

00:54:07.000 I mean, is that the energy?

00:54:09.000 Is that the space that we're in?

00:54:10.000 Think about all those people that were in that era. 1.00

00:54:12.000 Yeah, but those buggies are shit. 1.00

00:54:14.000 They went 45 miles an hour, top speed. 1.00

00:54:16.000 They were pretty amazing for somebody that didn't.

00:54:18.000 There's no horse at the end of it and it's driving you down the road.

00:54:21.000 What's that noise?

00:54:22.000 What I'm getting at is I think that the change is going to be way more radical than just going from a horse to a Model T. I think it's going to be...

00:54:31.000 There's a lot of people that believe we're already in a simulation.

00:54:36.000 And not a lot of people like kooks and people with schizophrenia, but like actual real scientists, including Elon, he said that the odds of us not being in a simulation are in the billions.

00:54:50.000 Because the idea is that...

00:54:52.000 If technology increases, one day there will be a simulation that will be so good you will not be able to distinguish whether or not it's real.

00:55:01.000 And so then the question is when will you know whether that's taken place and has that already taken place?

00:55:11.000 The Matrix.

00:55:12.000 Yeah.

00:55:13.000 Essentially what The Matrix was.

00:55:14.000 Similar.

00:55:14.000 But that's that same thing I was saying about Dick Tracy Watch.

00:55:19.000 Where did that come from?

00:55:20.000 The Disney watch seems kind of obvious.

00:55:22.000 It's a square.

00:55:24.000 Yeah, but I'm just still saying that...

00:55:25.000 Like a TV.

00:55:25.000 Your TV's a square.

00:55:27.000 Most watches were round, then all of a sudden it became a square.

00:55:29.000 I don't know.

00:55:30.000 Anyhow.

00:55:30.000 Not to get stuck on that.

00:55:31.000 Well, it's because it's crazy.

00:55:32.000 He's sci-fi.

00:55:33.000 Look, it's a square.

00:55:34.000 Like, look at the Jetsons.

00:55:35.000 But I go back to the thing with the...

00:55:38.000 Somebody...

00:55:39.000 I mean, you were talking about people doing drugs and designing cars.

00:55:42.000 Who sat around and said, okay, let's make up this movie where you take the pill and you're in the system, you're out of the system.

00:55:48.000 We're plugging in the back of the head.

00:55:49.000 You grow energy.

00:55:50.000 You are the energy source now.

00:55:52.000 Like, we use cows for, you know, grinding grain.

00:55:55.000 Are we going to become that?

00:55:57.000 And so forth.

00:55:57.000 You think about it.

00:55:58.000 What was that?

00:55:59.000 Matrix 20 years ago?

00:56:00.000 At least.

00:56:02.000 That's pretty advanced.

00:56:03.000 The Matrix was in the 90s, right?

00:56:05.000 What year was that, Jamie?

00:56:07.000 95?

00:56:08.000 No, no, it was 99. 99?

00:56:11.000 But still.

00:56:12.000 Yeah.

00:56:13.000 What we know about AI, we can look at it and go make sense.

00:56:15.000 March 31st, 99. I'm sure they wrote it even earlier than that.

00:56:19.000 So, yeah, and back then, no one had any.

00:56:21.000 So if you're dealing with 99, that's the infancy of the internet itself.

00:56:26.000 Pretty big thinking.

00:56:28.000 I stumbled across this when we were talking about something the other day.

00:56:31.000 This guy wrote a book in 1960 called The Man-Computer Symbiosis, which...

00:56:39.000 A concept of a human-computer collaboration, and this is 1960, where computers would augment human capabilities in decision-making and complex tasks.

00:56:49.000 This vision involved computers facilitating both the solution of formulated problems and the formulation of problems themselves, essentially creating a partnership where humans and computers could work together more efficiently.

00:57:04.000 Or more effectively than either could alone.

00:57:06.000 Well, that's happening right now.

00:57:09.000 That's already happening.

00:57:10.000 1960.

00:57:11.000 Yeah, that's real.

00:57:12.000 What was the guy's name?

00:57:13.000 Lick.

00:57:14.000 Licklider.

00:57:14.000 J.C.R.

00:57:15.000 Licklider.

00:57:17.000 Strange name, Mr. Licklider.

00:57:20.000 Yeah, man-computer symbiosis.

00:57:22.000 Look at that guy.

00:57:23.000 Look at him. 1.00

00:57:23.000 He looks like the type of guy would think up shit like that. 1.00

00:57:28.000 Licklider. 1.00

00:57:29.000 Looks like he'd be trolling for prostitutes, too. 1.00

00:57:33.000 Just saying. 0.99

00:57:34.000 I mean, maybe he did.

00:57:35.000 Of course he didn't.

00:57:36.000 I'm sure he didn't.

00:57:39.000 It looks like one of those guys.

00:57:42.000 It's just a...

00:57:43.000 It's a very tumultuous time because the change is coming so fast and no one knows what to do with it.

00:57:49.000 You know, and they...

00:57:51.000 There's...

00:57:52.000 Not enough laws to really stop it.

00:57:54.000 And even if you did have the laws, China's not going to stop. 0.83

00:57:57.000 Russia's not going to stop.

00:57:58.000 And who do you go to for an answer?

00:58:00.000 I mean, it's like there's so many people that are so susceptible to it.

00:58:04.000 And it's just free will.

00:58:06.000 I mean, it's just it's out there and people don't even know how to harness it or even understand what they're getting duped into or whatever the case may be.

00:58:15.000 It's like the things that people are putting on the Internet and it lives in perpetuity.

00:58:18.000 I mean, it's not going anywhere.

00:58:19.000 Well, this is all surface-level stuff.

00:58:21.000 The really crazy stuff is control of the power grid, alternative technology, alternative power sources.

00:58:28.000 It's going to get very, very, very strange inside of our lifetime.

00:58:34.000 But people are always going to need food, bro.

00:58:38.000 You know, AI is not going to make you a yummy sandwich.

00:58:41.000 Give them time.

00:58:42.000 You think?

00:58:43.000 Nah, I don't know.

00:58:44.000 There's something about handmade things that people are always going to enjoy.

00:58:49.000 Human beings know that someone...

00:58:52.000 It's like when you go to a nice restaurant and you have a nice meal, one of the things you know is that a person did this.

00:58:57.000 It's part of it. 0.99

00:58:58.000 Like, damn, they nailed it. 0.99

00:59:00.000 You know, when you're eating a perfectly cooked steak, oh, this guy nailed this. 0.99

00:59:03.000 Well, it's listening to...

00:59:05.000 It depends on your kind of music, but listening to music when somebody's up there riffing a guitar versus somebody making a guitar sound.

00:59:11.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:59:12.000 Yeah, you're experiencing the person performing.

00:59:15.000 Like you're watching someone up there jamming.

00:59:18.000 I think the big thing in food, like one of my positions on it, and I always tell people, you know, like, oh, you're the guy that does that show about deep fried cheeseburgers and pizza.

00:59:27.000 I'm like, no, no, you don't watch the show enough if that's what you think, because I'm super opinionated about, not opinionated, but I have a real responsibility, I think, to show the profile of food in the world or, you know, in the United States. 0.82

00:59:40.000 We've got to get our shit straight about what we're eating. 0.95

00:59:43.000 We're just, we can't eat this processed food. 0.98

00:59:46.000 I mean, processed food is, you're not eating it.

00:59:48.000 I mean, we got to eat the basics and eat great food and eat great food made correctly.

00:59:54.000 But something that was made a long time ago, don't get me wrong, there's a place for everything.

00:59:58.000 There's a place for fast food.

00:59:59.000 There's a place for, you know, things that are pre-made and so forth.

01:00:02.000 But it can't be all of one thing.

01:00:03.000 But people need to eat better.

01:00:06.000 And, you know, you being a hunter and myself, I talk to people all about it all the time.

01:00:10.000 You know, this is a reality that if you eat things that are modified, I'm not saying genetically modified doesn't have a place, but it can't be all the same stuff. 0.98

01:00:20.000 And if we don't watch it, we're going to get ourselves in some deep shit. 0.99

01:00:22.000 And we're already in deep shit. 1.00

01:00:23.000 Cancer's, you know, where's the heart attack? 0.99

01:00:26.000 Where's the stuff that was plaguing us for so many generations?

01:00:29.000 And now this cancer thing, I lost my sister to cancer, I lost my dad to cancer.

01:00:33.000 I run into more people on a daily basis that are, you know, stricken with cancer.

01:00:38.000 And I think food has a, you know, The type of food and what's put on the food.

01:00:42.000 That's a big play.

01:00:43.000 It's definitely a factor.

01:00:45.000 There's a lot of factors.

01:00:46.000 There's environmental factors.

01:00:48.000 There's toxins, herbicides, pesticides.

01:00:51.000 There's a lot of different factors.

01:00:52.000 I was just reading this thing about golf courses.

01:00:55.000 Or watching a video, rather, on golf courses.

01:00:57.000 That if you live within a certain radius of a golf course, you have a much higher possibility of getting Parkinson's disease. 1.00

01:01:07.000 No shit. 1.00

01:01:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:01:09.000 Oh, here it is.

01:01:10.000 Parkinson's risk higher for those living close to a golf course.

01:01:14.000 What does it say?

01:01:15.000 126%?

01:01:16.000 Yeah.

01:01:17.000 Wow.

01:01:18.000 So, I found people living within one mile of a golf course have 126% higher risk of developing...

01:01:25.000 What happened?

01:01:30.000 126% higher risk of developing Parkinson's disease compared to living more than six miles away, said co-author Dr. Ray Dorsey, a neurologist and the director of the Center for the Brain and the Environment at Atria Health and Research Institute in New York.

01:01:46.000 This isn't the first study that links Parkinson's disease with pesticides.

01:01:49.000 This just adds additional evidence that this isn't just happening among farmers.

01:01:54.000 This is happening to people living in suburban areas that have an increased risk of I met a guy once that...

01:02:16.000 He had bone cancer, and he had one of his bones in his legs replaced with a rod.

01:02:21.000 And he said that there's an enormous percentage of people in his neighborhood that had bone cancer and all kinds of different cancers, and it was all linked to this golf course.

01:02:32.000 The runoff from the golf course had gotten into the water table and the water supply of all these people. 0.97

01:02:38.000 Yeah, it's dangerous, and that shit's not even legal in a lot of countries. 0.98

01:02:43.000 That's what's crazy. 0.99

01:02:43.000 That's glyphosate. 0.99

01:02:46.000 I think they're linking this golf course thing to glyphosate as well, aren't they?

01:02:51.000 It's just pesticides in general.

01:02:53.000 I'm even looking at it now.

01:02:55.000 This is a contentious new study, which obviously it would be, but I'm trying to see what the contention is or why.

01:03:00.000 You know what's spooky, man?

01:03:01.000 There's a lot of rich folks who live on golf courses, and they think, like, hey, what a great life. 0.99

01:03:06.000 I wonder how many more of those fuckers are getting Parkinson's disease because of that. 1.00

01:03:13.000 Scary shit, man. 1.00

01:03:15.000 You think about the other countries. 1.00

01:03:16.000 We don't talk about a lot in our country, but what they ban in other countries of our products.

01:03:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:03:22.000 And just how they're holding the line.

01:03:24.000 I remember when I lived in France.

01:03:25.000 I lived right outside of Paris in a town called Chantilly.

01:03:29.000 We'd call it Chantilly, where it's the term Chantilly Lay, Chantilly Cream that comes from.

01:03:33.000 But I remember I was there.

01:03:34.000 I was 16. And I wrote my parents, and I'm like, food just tastes different here.

01:03:41.000 I mean, I don't care if it's a steak and a potato.

01:03:43.000 It just tastes different.

01:03:45.000 Because it's grass-fed steak.

01:03:47.000 They don't have grain-fed steak over there.

01:03:50.000 I noticed that the first time I went to Australia.

01:03:52.000 I had a steak.

01:03:53.000 I'm like, this tastes like game.

01:03:55.000 Everything tastes good.

01:03:57.000 It's funny because we go to school.

01:03:58.000 The lunch that we had at school was because I lived in this boarding house.

01:04:03.000 I rented a room from this family and they were terrible cooks.

01:04:06.000 I didn't think you'd go to France.

01:04:08.000 Everybody cooked good.

01:04:09.000 But anyhow, I went to high school.

01:04:10.000 I looked forward to lunch at school.

01:04:12.000 It was the best school lunch in the world.

01:04:14.000 You'd sit at a table like this.

01:04:15.000 There were eight kids and they would come by with a cart and they'd put down a hotel pan full of, you know, whatever vegetable, whatever starch, whatever meat.

01:04:22.000 We'd sit there and we had all the French bread we could eat.

01:04:24.000 And it was just like, I looked forward to it so much.

01:04:27.000 It was such great food.

01:04:30.000 I just never got it.

01:04:31.000 Well, and then I got older and started cooking, and I kind of went, oh, really?

01:04:35.000 So the funny thing was I went back to France 25, 30 years later, took my oldest son, Hunter, with me.

01:04:41.000 We did a whole tour through Europe when he graduated high school.

01:04:44.000 I took him to seven countries and 14 cities in 30 days.

01:04:49.000 And we did this whole tour of where food came from.

01:04:52.000 But I took him back to Chantilly, and I went to the grocery store.

01:04:55.000 Because my best friend from school still lived there.

01:04:57.000 And I walked into the grocery store.

01:04:58.000 And what had been a grocery store full of huge aisles of fresh produce and breads and everything you could imagine was now just freezer, freezer, freezer, freezer, freezer, freezer.

01:05:11.000 Really?

01:05:12.000 And I said to Vince, I go, his name is Vincent.

01:05:15.000 I said, Vincent, what?

01:05:17.000 And he's like...

01:05:19.000 Going to be more like Americans. 0.99

01:05:21.000 That was his, you know, kind of joking.

01:05:22.000 But it had changed so dramatically.

01:05:24.000 I was like, this is like, it was shattering.

01:05:27.000 Yeah, I think fresh food is really the only thing that people are supposed to be actually eating all the time.

01:05:34.000 Real food.

01:05:35.000 I mean, the more that you can get to a farmer's market, the more that you can have relationships with ranchers and people that actually provide you food, the healthier you're going to be.

01:05:44.000 And the further you get away from the source, the more you're going to have preservatives, the more you're going to have processed food.

01:05:51.000 Stay away from the inside of the supermarket.

01:05:53.000 All that stuff on the inside. 1.00

01:05:55.000 I mean, there's condiments and stuff, but most of it's bullshit. 0.99

01:05:58.000 The outside. 0.97

01:06:00.000 Vegetables, meats, eggs, all that stuff that's on the outside, all that refrigerated area on the outside, that's all you're supposed to be actually eating.

01:06:09.000 All that stuff that's in the middle is just fucking your life up for the most part.

01:06:13.000 Obviously, it's a generalization.

01:06:15.000 Plenty of good stuff in the middle.

01:06:16.000 Yeah, and I think that there is circumstances.

01:06:19.000 Not everybody has the same budget and so forth, but I do believe that...

01:06:24.000 The reality of it is education is a big thing.

01:06:27.000 Education for people about what to do with real food and how to handle it and so forth.

01:06:32.000 I remember home ec was a great class when I was a sophomore in high school.

01:06:36.000 Home ec, I took home ec.

01:06:38.000 It was almost all girls. 0.94

01:06:39.000 But I was in it because I wanted to see what the...

01:06:42.000 I didn't want to sew.

01:06:43.000 But I did want to learn, you know, how to make a blackberry pie.

01:06:47.000 And I just think those simple fundamentals should still be something that are taught in schools, like just how to make a roasted chicken.

01:06:55.000 Like, give them six months of roasting chicken.

01:06:57.000 You know, how do you cook a potato?

01:06:59.000 You know, just the basics.

01:07:00.000 Because there's a lot of people that, you know, my son included, my son Ryder, you know, we did a crash course.

01:07:07.000 I always made him cook with me in the kitchen, but it was usually begrudgingly, you know, he'd make things that he'd like to make pizza.

01:07:12.000 Let's make pizza.

01:07:13.000 You know, tacos.

01:07:14.000 But even that little thing like how to sear a steak, you know, what's done, what's not done, what's overseen, you know, those things.

01:07:21.000 We're missing that, you know.

01:07:22.000 So you said go to AI Food. 1.00

01:07:24.000 I mean, scary shit. 1.00

01:07:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:29.000 We've been bamboozled, you know, and corporations, you know, the same corporations that used to, well, still do, own tobacco companies, bought out all these big processed food corporations.

01:07:41.000 I mean, this is something that RFK Jr. has talked in depth about.

01:07:45.000 And then they started using the same tactics to get people hooked on these processed foods.

01:07:50.000 And these processed foods are essentially designed to make them incredibly addictive.

01:07:54.000 And they're cheap.

01:07:56.000 And people just consume them en masse.

01:07:58.000 And it becomes a large percentage of the calories you take in.

01:08:01.000 It's going to take a long time for people to adjust and switch away from that.

01:08:06.000 Because it's easy to destroy something.

01:08:09.000 It's very hard to rebuild.

01:08:10.000 And they've kind of destroyed our health.

01:08:13.000 But it goes hand in hand because when you start thinking about this cancer thing and how devastating it is, I'm like, we can't really solve this?

01:08:22.000 And then you listen to some other sides that will say, big business.

01:08:27.000 You don't make money securing people.

01:08:30.000 It's one and done.

01:08:31.000 It's over.

01:08:32.000 I don't know.

01:08:33.000 It weirds me out.

01:08:36.000 We have, you know, you've got such a massive platform and I talk, you heard my little pitch there at the beginning of Food Network, real food for real people.

01:08:45.000 I'm not saying these restaurants I shoot on Triple D, you should go eat every single day because not every one of them is, you know, always the healthiest situation.

01:08:53.000 I think you need to have a good balance between things.

01:08:56.000 But it's okay to have indulgence.

01:08:59.000 It's okay to have your pizza experience.

01:09:02.000 But we just need to get back to some...

01:09:06.000 Balance of it.

01:09:07.000 Because we're imbalanced, is my feeling.

01:09:09.000 But then again, you're always going to have bad examples that are good for people to realize, I don't want to live like that guy's living.

01:09:16.000 You want to see someone who's morbidly obese, terrible diet, no enthusiasm for life, because they're poisoned.

01:09:26.000 And then you see a guy who's super healthy and exercising all the time, he's got tons of energy.

01:09:32.000 That's what I like.

01:09:33.000 You need to see bad examples, too.

01:09:35.000 It's part of the human experience.

01:09:36.000 Moderation is my favorite thing that I talk about.

01:09:39.000 I got into, I don't know, about three or four years ago, I got into Cold Plunge.

01:09:44.000 Thank you, by the way.

01:09:45.000 You're a great advocate and you were a great inspiration on it.

01:09:49.000 I started doing it and then everybody would tell me that you're doing it.

01:09:52.000 So I listened to some of the things you do.

01:09:53.000 I do it in the morning.

01:09:55.000 It's great.

01:09:56.000 It's a life changer. 0.94

01:09:58.000 Some mornings it sucks. 0.82

01:10:00.000 I mean, I really have to force myself. 0.99

01:10:01.000 It sucks every day. 0.80

01:10:02.000 I'm going into this. 1.00

01:10:03.000 This is bullshit. 0.99

01:10:04.000 Okay, I'll just get through five minutes and I'm good. 1.00

01:10:07.000 I'll just listen to Paul Harvey.

01:10:08.000 I listen to Paul Harvey in the morning.

01:10:10.000 That's my favorite.

01:10:10.000 Really?

01:10:11.000 Paul Harvey?

01:10:11.000 Why Paul Harvey?

01:10:12.000 The rest of the story.

01:10:14.000 Why Paul Harvey?

01:10:16.000 Because I love history.

01:10:19.000 And I love to learn the little nuances of how things came about.

01:10:23.000 And it was something that reminds me of my childhood.

01:10:26.000 You know, we'd listen to it in shop class when I was in high school.

01:10:30.000 And it was always that quick little in-between break.

01:10:34.000 You know, they were syndicated.

01:10:36.000 Pretty, I don't know, interesting guy.

01:10:38.000 There's a whole bunch out there.

01:10:39.000 Oh, he was great.

01:10:40.000 I listen to music, too.

01:10:41.000 I have my set of music that I listen to that I know this is.

01:10:43.000 I'm going to do a 10-minute plunge or 12-minute plunge, depending on the song, and if I can keep myself out of it.

01:10:49.000 Because as soon as I start worrying about it, thinking I'm cold.

01:10:52.000 But I don't do it at your temperature.

01:10:54.000 You do it at crazy temperature.

01:10:54.000 I do like 38, 39. I heard you're like in the...

01:10:58.000 I do whatever.

01:10:59.000 No, I heard you're in the 33s.

01:11:01.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:11:01.000 It's fucking nuts. 0.99

01:11:03.000 It's no different. 1.00

01:11:04.000 It's just cold.

01:11:05.000 It's just cold.

01:11:06.000 It's no different.

01:11:07.000 I was telling your buddies earlier.

01:11:08.000 So I have friends that will come and do it.

01:11:09.000 I started with my cold punch.

01:11:11.000 I started with a watering trough and put ice in it.

01:11:14.000 So that was the way I started.

01:11:15.000 You know that you get that little thermal barrier around you.

01:11:17.000 It's awesome.

01:11:18.000 Yeah.

01:11:18.000 Okay?

01:11:19.000 And then you have to, you know, you got to move or something.

01:11:20.000 Okay, you move.

01:11:21.000 Now you're cold.

01:11:22.000 Then I went to a freezer and built one out of a freezer.

01:11:25.000 Oh, like one of them big game freezers?

01:11:28.000 Yeah.

01:11:28.000 Big Westing house or whatever it was.

01:11:30.000 Freezer.

01:11:30.000 A little filter in it.

01:11:32.000 It had a little...

01:11:33.000 You'd plug the freezer into the thermostat and then the thermostat into the wall and then you'd put a little temperature in there and it would regulate itself so it didn't turn into a block of ice.

01:11:42.000 But every time I got in, I had to unplug it because they're not UL-rated for humans to be in them.

01:11:47.000 Right, right.

01:11:49.000 So then a buddy of mine, this guy Jamie Weeks, sent me one from Sweathouse, his company.

01:11:56.000 And then I got in real cold plunge.

01:11:57.000 Well, that water circulates.

01:12:00.000 What difference?

01:12:01.000 Is like a blue cube.

01:12:03.000 Like blue cube is one we have out here.

01:12:05.000 That one you can turn into a raging river.

01:12:08.000 It's got different selections.

01:12:11.000 So you can have like a little...

01:12:12.000 If you get in it normal, it's just a slow, steady circulation.

01:12:18.000 Nothing crazy. 0.99

01:12:20.000 But you can click that bitch one or two. 1.00

01:12:22.000 And at two, that motherfucker's a raging river. 1.00

01:12:25.000 It's just rolling on you? 1.00

01:12:26.000 And it's hard to do a minute in that bitch. 1.00

01:12:28.000 It's hard to do a minute. 0.99

01:12:29.000 Because you do get that little thermal barrier.

01:12:31.000 Yeah, there's no barrier in the blue cube.

01:12:33.000 No, this one is called Plunge.

01:12:34.000 They're out of Sacramento.

01:12:35.000 These guys, great tub. 0.98

01:12:37.000 The thing about it is, like, I don't know what the benefit is other than it sucking more.

01:12:42.000 I think your body temperature stays the same because it's like, just by, I guess... 0.99

01:12:49.000 You don't feel as bad because your body, like in a regular cold plunge because your body develops that thermal barrier, but you're still cold as shit. 0.98

01:12:57.000 And you get all the benefits. 0.97

01:12:59.000 I don't think you have to suffer through that raging river thing.

01:13:02.000 But if you want the mental benefits, the benefits of overcoming adversity and the ability to just force yourself to do something that's intolerable, then I would recommend doing that.

01:13:12.000 If you're one of those people that really enjoys torturing themselves.

01:13:16.000 Get a blue cube.

01:13:17.000 I push people on this, and so they'll get, I was telling you guys, so a buddy come over, and I'm not doing it, I'm doing it.

01:13:23.000 Just do one minute.

01:13:25.000 If you do one minute, I'll get off it. 0.99

01:13:26.000 I'll quit busting your balls about it, about you being, you know. 0.98

01:13:29.000 Okay, get in there. 0.98

01:13:30.000 So then I'll start talking to my, okay, I got a timer going. 0.83

01:13:33.000 And they'll go, okay, talk about this, and I'll freeze my ass off.

01:13:36.000 Okay, give me your favorite song.

01:13:37.000 Which favorite song?

01:13:37.000 Then I'll look the song up, take my time.

01:13:40.000 Hank Williams, Country Boy Can't Survive.

01:13:41.000 Okay, okay, ready?

01:13:42.000 I'm going to play it for you.

01:13:43.000 You're doing good.

01:13:44.000 You've got 30 more seconds.

01:13:46.000 It's already been two minutes.

01:13:48.000 Play Country Boy Can't Survive.

01:13:49.000 How many of the words do you know to this song?

01:13:53.000 Besides the hook, what do you know of the song?

01:13:55.000 I'll sit there and just mess with them.

01:13:57.000 They'll go four minutes.

01:13:59.000 And I'll say, okay, and stop.

01:14:02.000 They go, that was a minute? 1.00

01:14:03.000 Bullshit, that song's over. 0.99

01:14:05.000 And I'm like, that was like five and a half minutes, you see? 1.00

01:14:09.000 It's mental.

01:14:10.000 It is mental.

01:14:11.000 Yeah, it's mental.

01:14:12.000 If you can distract yourself, it's...

01:14:14.000 That's why I follow Harvey.

01:14:15.000 Yeah, well, that's why watching a movie while you're on a treadmill is a total cheat code.

01:14:20.000 Because if you can get, like, an iPad and put earplugs on and watch a movie, you'll get absorbed in the movie.

01:14:27.000 You won't even think about the fact that you're running.

01:14:29.000 You know what I watch?

01:14:30.000 What? 0.99

01:14:31.000 Ridiculousness. 0.94

01:14:33.000 Oh, that's a good thing to watch. 1.00

01:14:34.000 I fucking love it. 0.99

01:14:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:14:35.000 I love ridiculousness. 0.99

01:14:37.000 I went on there. 0.83

01:14:38.000 To me...

01:14:40.000 Dyrdek's comments are the funniest.

01:14:41.000 All those guys, they've cracked me up.

01:14:44.000 Except for having to fight through a commercial here and there, because that'll remind you that you're still on the elliptical.

01:14:49.000 Are you a treadmill guy or an elliptical guy?

01:14:50.000 I don't do either of those, generally.

01:14:53.000 I mean, sometimes I'll do a treadmill with a weighted pack on.

01:14:58.000 Who do you use for a weighted pack?

01:15:00.000 What I use?

01:15:02.000 Outdoorsman's.

01:15:03.000 It's a pack that has a post on the back of it, so I can actually put...

01:15:08.000 Big plates on it.

01:15:11.000 Yeah.

01:15:12.000 That's fun.

01:15:13.000 Yeah.

01:15:14.000 What kind of weight are you talking?

01:15:15.000 Mostly when I go for long walks, I just put 45 on.

01:15:19.000 So the pack is probably 5 pounds and then the 45 pound plate and then I take the dog out.

01:15:25.000 But if I'm doing hardcore workouts, I put 90 on it.

01:15:28.000 So I'll put two plates.

01:15:30.000 And then there's a great machine called...

01:15:33.000 See if you can find it, Jamie.

01:15:35.000 I think it's called the Hit Sled.

01:15:37.000 And it's like you do a farmer's carry.

01:15:40.000 So it has plate posts on either side, and you lift it up, and it's at an angle.

01:15:46.000 So as you're walking, you're carrying...

01:15:48.000 Is the one you step inside of?

01:15:50.000 No.

01:15:51.000 No, no, no.

01:15:52.000 It's just a treadmill.

01:15:53.000 It's like a treadmill that's at an angle.

01:15:55.000 That's it.

01:15:56.000 What's it called, Jamie?

01:15:57.000 Yeah, the Hit-Mail X. Oh, that!

01:16:00.000 It's a whole unit itself. 1.00

01:16:01.000 That motherfucker's the shit. 1.00

01:16:04.000 That thing is the shit. 1.00

01:16:05.000 And is that the tensioner in the front? 0.99

01:16:07.000 Well, so you've got the ability to adjust incline, I think.

01:16:12.000 Is that a just incline?

01:16:13.000 Or is it static?

01:16:15.000 Either way.

01:16:16.000 Whatever that incline is.

01:16:17.000 And then you have those weight posts on the side.

01:16:20.000 So you're lifting weight up and you're carrying weight.

01:16:23.000 So that guy's got 45 on each side.

01:16:25.000 So he's carrying 90 pounds while you're walking uphill.

01:16:29.000 And woo! 1.00

01:16:30.000 That'll get you in some shape.

01:16:32.000 Woo! 0.99

01:16:32.000 Baby! 0.99

01:16:34.000 That'll get you in some shape. 0.99

01:16:36.000 Ass kicker. 0.99

01:16:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:38.000 What do you cook?

01:16:39.000 Mostly meat.

01:16:41.000 Mostly what I eat is meat.

01:16:43.000 That's like 90% of my diet.

01:16:45.000 Meat and eggs.

01:16:46.000 What's your cheat?

01:16:48.000 What's your indulgent...

01:16:50.000 My daughter is a really good chef. 0.63

01:16:53.000 Not a good chef, a good baker.

01:16:54.000 She's great at cookies. 1.00

01:16:57.000 Every time she's cooking, I'm like, God damn it. 0.99

01:17:00.000 She's making me some cookies. 0.99

01:17:02.000 She's really good, though.

01:17:04.000 They're really legit.

01:17:05.000 She made these cookies, these peanut butter chocolate chip cookies with Nutella.

01:17:09.000 Woo! 0.99

01:17:11.000 They're good.

01:17:12.000 Can you do just one or two or do you house the plate?

01:17:15.000 Well, I work out a lot, so I allow myself to eat like a pig every now and then.

01:17:21.000 But for me, cheat food is always either Italian or Mexican.

01:17:27.000 I love good Mexican food.

01:17:30.000 I love good Italian food.

01:17:32.000 If I'm going to pig out and I'm going to eat something that I know is just for mouth pleasure, it's probably going to be Mexican or Italian.

01:17:39.000 Carbs.

01:17:39.000 Oh, yeah.

01:17:40.000 Oh, so addictive.

01:17:42.000 I find the more I stay away from them, the less addicted I am to them.

01:17:47.000 Oh, for sure.

01:17:47.000 And then as soon as I have them, I find myself gravitating back into, you know.

01:17:54.000 I look forward to going to New York just for Italian food.

01:17:57.000 Because, like, Austin is great for barbecue and steaks and Tex-Mex.

01:18:02.000 Mexican food's great here.

01:18:03.000 There's a lot of great food in Austin, but there's not a lot of...

01:18:07.000 Legitimate Italian spots, like there was in LA.

01:18:10.000 LA had some legit Italian spots.

01:18:12.000 Chicago.

01:18:13.000 Chicago's got great Italian food.

01:18:15.000 New York, though.

01:18:16.000 One of my favorite food cities is Chicago.

01:18:18.000 East Coast Italian food, to me, there's nothing like it.

01:18:21.000 It's like, that's it.

01:18:22.000 That's the epicenter for me.

01:18:24.000 Like, old school East Coast Italian sandwiches and pasta and pizza.

01:18:32.000 And there's something about walking into a deli.

01:18:35.000 In Rhode Island, in New York, whatever.

01:18:38.000 It just smells different.

01:18:40.000 The floor creaks.

01:18:41.000 They're fresh-cutting the slices.

01:18:44.000 People are fired up. 1.00

01:18:45.000 They're so excited to get that fucking sandwich. 1.00

01:18:47.000 The meatballs taste different. 1.00

01:18:50.000 So Federal Hill in Rhode Island is a real famous Italian.

01:18:55.000 It shows up there a couple times, but it's not too far from where my wife's family lived.

01:19:00.000 I just remember going up there and going to the delis and getting those cherry pepper stuff with prosciutto and provolone and just, you know, I'll take six of them and then I'll take 18 to go.

01:19:09.000 I would always, you know, bring them all back to California.

01:19:12.000 Just can't find anything like it.

01:19:13.000 You know what else I miss on the East Coast that you don't really get out here is a legit Jewish deli.

01:19:19.000 Like a cat's deli.

01:19:21.000 Like someone needs to figure out a way to do something like that here where you can get like a legit...

01:19:28.000 Pastrami Rubin, like a real one, you know?

01:19:32.000 But the question I have about that, that's what people ask me all the time.

01:19:34.000 When I first started Triple D, you could only get true Tex-Mex or great Mexican food really in this Texas, Arizona, Nevada, California, down in this pocket.

01:19:47.000 But I will say that now I'm starting to find...

01:19:50.000 Because typically it's the people migrating to these different areas.

01:19:53.000 I went to a Mexican joint on Triple D in Minneapolis.

01:19:57.000 And it's a Mexican market.

01:19:59.000 It's the whole thing.

01:20:00.000 And it was better than 85% of the joints that I've tried in these regions I was just talking about.

01:20:06.000 So I'm starting to find this...

01:20:08.000 Better cross-pollination of foods in different regions.

01:20:11.000 When people move.

01:20:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:20:13.000 But you've got to have the market.

01:20:15.000 See, the market is the key because who are they going to sell it to if people don't get it?

01:20:19.000 Because a fatty brisket from Cat's Deli is just a different...

01:20:25.000 You've got to have the mindset.

01:20:26.000 I've taken people there so many times and like...

01:20:28.000 It's this much meat, and there's little pieces of bread, and I'm eating meat the whole time.

01:20:32.000 I'm like, yeah, it's part of the idea. 1.00

01:20:34.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:20:35.000 I got a good one for you, too. 1.00

01:20:37.000 You ruined it for me.

01:20:37.000 First time I went to Canceli.

01:20:39.000 So I'm in there filming Food Network Star.

01:20:41.000 I had a day off.

01:20:42.000 My buddy lived in New York.

01:20:43.000 A guy that was on the show with me.

01:20:44.000 He said, I'm going to take you to Cat's Deli.

01:20:46.000 I love Cat's Instagram so I can see some visuals while this is going on.

01:20:49.000 I'm addicted to their Instagram page. 0.99

01:20:50.000 Do you have any fucking sandwiches? 1.00

01:20:52.000 No, I wish you did. 1.00

01:20:52.000 So I thought I was going to bring you food today when I went and did the thing. 1.00

01:20:56.000 And I'm like, nah, I'm not taking Joe, the vegan food.

01:20:58.000 I'm not going to take this.

01:20:59.000 Yeah, please don't do that.

01:21:00.000 I'm not going to take the beating.

01:21:01.000 Don't give me that.

01:21:01.000 I had elk sausage for breakfast.

01:21:04.000 Oh, I love elk.

01:21:05.000 Look at this.

01:21:06.000 Oh, come on, baby. 1.00

01:21:07.000 Look at Katz's Deli.

01:21:09.000 Look at that.

01:21:09.000 Look at that pastrami.

01:21:11.000 It says keto.

01:21:12.000 Keto pastrami.

01:21:13.000 Oh, my God, I'm eating healthy.

01:21:15.000 How is it keto?

01:21:17.000 Oh, no bread.

01:21:18.000 Oh, they're just giving you the...

01:21:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:21:21.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:21:23.000 Look at that.

01:21:26.000 Is this supposed to be torture right now?

01:21:29.000 Look how good that looks.

01:21:31.000 Oh my god!

01:21:33.000 I love Katz's Deli.

01:21:35.000 I do too.

01:21:36.000 I try to go every time I'm in New York. 0.99

01:21:38.000 Those guys, I see the same fucking dudes that I've been going. 0.98

01:21:41.000 Since I was going there in like the early 2000s, I've run into the same guys working there. 0.99

01:21:47.000 These guys that have been there for 25, 30 years.

01:21:49.000 And they're such good dudes.

01:21:51.000 Great guys.

01:21:51.000 And I'll eat more snacks over the counter.

01:21:54.000 Yeah, they give you a little piece.

01:21:55.000 They always do that at Cats. 0.62

01:21:57.000 They give you a little piece and they have a tip jar.

01:21:59.000 So if people haven't been to Cats, when you go into Cats, you know, but I'm telling them. 1.00

01:22:03.000 Look at that fucking sandwich, man. 0.99

01:22:05.000 When you go to Cats, they give you a chit. 1.00

01:22:06.000 They give you a ticket.

01:22:07.000 Yeah, you got to pay in cash.

01:22:09.000 Okay, so they don't take credit cards.

01:22:10.000 You better have cash.

01:22:11.000 So you pass a ticket over the counter.

01:22:13.000 They mark off what they gave you.

01:22:14.000 So then you take a ticket and you sit down and you eat your food.

01:22:17.000 And then when you leave, you go out and you check out with your ticket.

01:22:20.000 So my buddy and I go.

01:22:24.000 And I order up.

01:22:25.000 We order up all the stuff.

01:22:26.000 I'm paying.

01:22:27.000 So we put it all on my ticket.

01:22:29.000 So we had a bunch of sandwiches, a bunch of beers.

01:22:32.000 So we're leaving and I turn my ticket in and I pay my bill.

01:22:37.000 And they look at my buddy and they say, where's your ticket?

01:22:39.000 And he goes, I didn't get anything.

01:22:40.000 I put it on his ticket.

01:22:41.000 I said, no, no, no.

01:22:42.000 You got to turn your ticket in.

01:22:43.000 And it says right there, lost ticket, you know, 300 bucks or whatever the ticket would be worth if it was all checked off.

01:22:48.000 Right.

01:22:49.000 And I'm like...

01:22:50.000 But he didn't have anything.

01:22:51.000 It's all...

01:22:52.000 You can see it.

01:22:52.000 And they're like, you gotta have your ticket or you pay the...

01:22:55.000 And I'm like, what the...

01:22:56.000 I mean, I've never been to a place like this.

01:22:57.000 So we go back over to the table where he'd been sitting.

01:23:00.000 Well, they'd already turned the table and it's all gone and done.

01:23:03.000 And now there's four big construction dudes sitting there.

01:23:06.000 Huge.

01:23:07.000 In the yellow vest, hard hats on, total New Yorkers.

01:23:11.000 My buddy wasn't from New York.

01:23:12.000 And he goes...

01:23:14.000 And we're like, excuse me, fine sirs.

01:23:17.000 You know, and I don't have, you know, again, still in the same yellow jacket, bleached hair.

01:23:22.000 And my buddy's standing there, and he's from, like, Iowa.

01:23:25.000 Like, you guys see a ticket?

01:23:27.000 And, like, what the you want?

01:23:30.000 Like, get out of here! 0.64

01:23:31.000 You're interrupting their meal.

01:23:33.000 Yeah, exactly what we're doing there on a lunch break.

01:23:35.000 We're looking for a ticket, and my buddy happens to see the ticket on the floor underneath the biggest guy's boot, like halfway.

01:23:45.000 He's like, ticket's right there.

01:23:46.000 I'm like, I'm not getting the ticket. 1.00

01:23:48.000 You're the dumbass who lost the ticket. 1.00

01:23:49.000 Get the ticket. 1.00

01:23:50.000 So I think we had to buy the guy's, like, you know, we had to buy him something or pay the tip or whatever for the guy to move his boot, and we got the ticket.

01:23:57.000 It was a tumultuous experience.

01:23:59.000 I go with people now, and I'm like...

01:24:01.000 Take the ticket.

01:24:01.000 Put it in your wallet right now.

01:24:02.000 I'll pay the meal, but just don't lose the ticket.

01:24:04.000 Yeah, you have to be prepared for the experience because it's not like anything else.

01:24:08.000 But it's the bomb.

01:24:09.000 But it's worth it.

01:24:10.000 It's worth it. 0.99

01:24:11.000 You get the best fucking corned beef. 0.99

01:24:13.000 The nicest people. 1.00

01:24:14.000 The nicest people.

01:24:15.000 Characters in that place, man. 1.00

01:24:16.000 The pastrami's off the fucking chain. 1.00

01:24:19.000 That pastrami's insane. 0.99

01:24:21.000 I get the same thing every time just because it's so good I don't want to switch up.

01:24:25.000 I got a pastrami Reuben.

01:24:26.000 In the exact same way.

01:24:27.000 Incredible pickles.

01:24:28.000 Their pickles are amazing.

01:24:30.000 The slaw.

01:24:31.000 So I love the thing they have on there.

01:24:33.000 You see that one back wall, send a salami to a sailor. 0.94

01:24:38.000 That whole campaign that was going on still is something that needs to be done.

01:24:44.000 Well, they've been around since the 1800s.

01:24:46.000 Such the joint.

01:24:47.000 Same spot.

01:24:49.000 But there's a thing about places like that where there's this deep history.

01:24:53.000 You feel it when you're in there.

01:24:55.000 You get a smile on your face when you walk in the door because it's just this incredible history.

01:24:59.000 You feel like, wow, this place is still around.

01:25:01.000 It's still the same.

01:25:02.000 Let's get him to the counter. 0.99

01:25:03.000 Oh, he's chopping it up.

01:25:05.000 Look at that.

01:25:06.000 My mouth.

01:25:06.000 This is like torture.

01:25:08.000 My mouth.

01:25:08.000 I know.

01:25:09.000 That's what I love about going to New York and eating there.

01:25:12.000 I like walking into a pizzeria and smelling everything.

01:25:15.000 And seeing the guy pulling the pies out of the oven, like, oh!

01:25:20.000 I love it.

01:25:21.000 And they're not always the cleanest.

01:25:22.000 And the counters are worn out.

01:25:24.000 Who cares?

01:25:25.000 Exactly.

01:25:25.000 It's part of the charm.

01:25:26.000 If they redid it, it would fuck it up.

01:25:29.000 Yeah, you go and remodel and it's not going to happen. 1.00

01:25:31.000 Oh my god, if you redid Cats' deli, I'd fucking slap you. 1.00

01:25:34.000 How dare you? 1.00

01:25:35.000 How dare you take all the pictures of dead celebrities off the wall?

01:25:39.000 Like, you know, that's part of it. 1.00

01:25:41.000 The fucking... 0.99

01:25:42.000 You ever been to DeFaro's over in Brooklyn? 1.00

01:25:44.000 No.

01:25:44.000 Pizza?

01:25:45.000 No.

01:25:45.000 Old guy there cuts the basil with scissors.

01:25:48.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:48.000 I remember standing there and just looking at the pizza come out.

01:25:51.000 And it doesn't look like, I mean, it's just next level pizza.

01:25:55.000 You've been to Reos?

01:25:57.000 No, where's that?

01:25:58.000 Rios is in Harlem.

01:25:59.000 It's an Italian joint.

01:26:01.000 We'll call my Uncle Bo.

01:26:02.000 R-A-O-S. 1.00

01:26:04.000 Okay.

01:26:05.000 And it is the old school.

01:26:06.000 I mean, this is an Italian joint that you can only get in if you know somebody, you're with somebody.

01:26:10.000 Tiny little place, maybe 15 tables.

01:26:13.000 There it is.

01:26:13.000 Since 1896.

01:26:16.000 Wow.

01:26:17.000 And I tell you.

01:26:18.000 So you tell me when you're in New York next and I'll call my Uncle Bo.

01:26:21.000 What street is it on?

01:26:23.000 Click on New York.

01:26:24.000 What does it say with the address is?

01:26:27.000 Yeah.

01:26:28.000 East 114th Street.

01:26:29.000 Wow.

01:26:30.000 The original.

01:26:31.000 The floor is all slanted.

01:26:33.000 Like if you're sitting at the wrong part of the table, you're sitting having dinner kind of cockeyed like this.

01:26:38.000 Everybody's on top of each other.

01:26:39.000 It's all family.

01:26:40.000 It's an experience.

01:26:43.000 But that's what you talk about.

01:26:44.000 Because then I went to Rayo's in Vegas when they put one in Caesars.

01:26:50.000 Same pictures on the wall, same all that stuff, but it just didn't have...

01:26:54.000 It was good, but it just wasn't that real.

01:26:56.000 Look at that.

01:26:57.000 That looks amazing.

01:26:58.000 That's the table I sit at right back there. 0.97

01:27:00.000 Another place I fucking love is Peter Luger's. 0.98

01:27:03.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:27:04.000 Peter Luger's in Brooklyn.

01:27:07.000 You being a meat guy?

01:27:08.000 Oh, my God.

01:27:08.000 And they bring that steak to your plate, and it's covered in butter, and it's crackling.

01:27:13.000 I don't even eat the sides.

01:27:15.000 Look at that.

01:27:17.000 They just have it down, too.

01:27:19.000 It's so consistent.

01:27:20.000 Every time you go, the steak is exactly perfectly cooked.

01:27:23.000 You've been to Jeff Ruby's?

01:27:25.000 Where's that?

01:27:26.000 He's got Nashville, Louisville, Cincinnati.

01:27:28.000 Jeff Ruby's a character amongst characters.

01:27:30.000 If you ever get a chance to go to one of his steakhouses, this guy...

01:27:33.000 They crush steak.

01:27:34.000 I mean, some of my favorite steak in the country. 0.99

01:27:37.000 I was just at the Derby, and I was at his place, and I ate steak, and I took Taylor Sheridan there, and they were pretty shit. 0.98

01:27:43.000 They were like, Taylor, you know, meat guy, meat guy. 0.98

01:27:45.000 Oh, you're friends with Taylor?

01:27:46.000 Yeah.

01:27:47.000 I was just with him Saturday night.

01:27:49.000 He did the commencement speech at UT.

01:27:52.000 Great guy.

01:27:52.000 I mean, you know.

01:27:53.000 Incredible speech, man. 0.99

01:27:54.000 His speech, he fucking killed it. 0.99

01:27:56.000 He is. 1.00

01:27:57.000 He walks the talk. 0.76

01:27:57.000 There's no bullshit about that. 0.76

01:27:59.000 Yeah, I love that too. 0.55

01:28:00.000 He helped me with the fundraiser.

01:28:01.000 We do.

01:28:01.000 So I do a lot of philanthropy.

01:28:02.000 That's my, you know, being a dad was my biggest job, my biggest responsibility.

01:28:06.000 Husband, restaurateur, chef, all that.

01:28:09.000 But my end game is my philanthropy.

01:28:13.000 Philanthropy to me, I mean, I have so much opportunity and there's so many good things coming my way.

01:28:17.000 I try to divert as much of that towards doing it.

01:28:20.000 So my philanthropy is about first responders.

01:28:22.000 First responders, active military and veterans.

01:28:25.000 But now that I have this program going where we can do things to raise money, and it's not just raise money, it's raise the money and then do things with it.

01:28:33.000 Like when the fires happened in LA, we went down with our team, we have a big rescue trailer that's 50 feet long.

01:28:39.000 We can feed about 5,000 a day out of it.

01:28:41.000 And I have a bunch of chef buddies, and so they all come and help, and we just pump out food for first responders.

01:28:48.000 But I was doing, we had the fires in Maui.

01:28:52.000 And devastation.

01:28:53.000 And I know the fire feeling because I was up there in Northern California in Sonoma County when we had our bad fires.

01:29:00.000 And so we raised money.

01:29:01.000 So I got 40 chefs together.

01:29:04.000 We were all in town doing, I do a show called Tournament of Champions.

01:29:07.000 They were in town for the tournament.

01:29:09.000 And we put on a dinner for 150 people.

01:29:12.000 So I called Taylor and said, hey, I'm doing this event.

01:29:14.000 You want to come up?

01:29:14.000 And he says, only if I get to cook.

01:29:16.000 You know, we're going to cook together.

01:29:17.000 So we brought up all these, you know, four sixes, these tomahawk chops the size of, you know, a manhole cover.

01:29:23.000 And we cooked.

01:29:24.000 And so we sat there and we raised money and we did all these different things like, you know, go to Four Sixes Ranch.

01:29:28.000 You can go be here.

01:29:29.000 You can go, you know, have a culinary experience with Guy, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:29:32.000 And in one night, we raised $1.7 million with 150 people in the room.

01:29:39.000 That's incredible.

01:29:40.000 And a big part of that was Taylor.

01:29:41.000 I think three of the biggest packages sold were for over $100,000 to go down to his ranch.

01:29:47.000 No, actually, it was to go up to Montana to Yellowstone to see the filming.

01:29:53.000 Oh, wow.

01:29:53.000 He's just that kind of dude, man.

01:29:55.000 That dude, everybody, he gives everybody the time.

01:29:59.000 I mean, we were just at the Derby walking around together.

01:30:01.000 Just a class act.

01:30:02.000 We just love that guy.

01:30:04.000 Yeah, he's legit.

01:30:05.000 And the what?

01:30:05.000 The shows he's making?

01:30:08.000 I know.

01:30:08.000 I don't know how he can do it.

01:30:10.000 Landman?

01:30:10.000 Well, I don't know how he does so many shows.

01:30:13.000 I keep finding shows.

01:30:14.000 I'm like, this show looks interesting.

01:30:15.000 Taylor Sheridan show.

01:30:16.000 Like, what?

01:30:17.000 Lioness?

01:30:18.000 Yeah, he's got like 10 shows.

01:30:20.000 Have you watched Landman?

01:30:21.000 Yeah, I love it.

01:30:22.000 I'm a huge Billy Bob fan.

01:30:24.000 Oh, and he's the coolest.

01:30:25.000 He's the best.

01:30:26.000 I said to him, I go, did you write that for him? 0.98

01:30:31.000 I mean, it couldn't be Billy Bob any goddamn better. 0.97

01:30:35.000 The one-liners are the best goddamn thing. 0.99

01:30:37.000 I can't get enough of it. 0.98

01:30:39.000 But I love Mayor of Kingstown.

01:30:43.000 That was great.

01:30:44.000 That was another one.

01:30:45.000 Remember the starting, the first episode? 1.00

01:30:47.000 You didn't see that shit coming. 0.99

01:30:49.000 Right. 0.99

01:30:49.000 Right at the beginning, the guy that you thought was going to be the lead, you didn't think it was going to be Jerry? 0.99

01:30:52.000 Spoiler alert.

01:30:55.000 If you haven't watched it by now, you're missing it. 0.99

01:30:57.000 Tough shit. 0.99

01:30:58.000 Sorry I blew it for you. 1.00

01:30:58.000 It's another Taylor show. 1.00

01:31:00.000 He's got so many shows.

01:31:01.000 I just don't understand how he can put together so 1923, 1883, Yellowstone. 0.99

01:31:07.000 God damn. 0.98

01:31:08.000 I think they're doing another one. 1.00

01:31:10.000 I think they're doing like a 1943.

01:31:12.000 I just watched the end of 1923 and cried like a baby.

01:31:17.000 I was bummed that Yellowstone ended the way it did, though.

01:31:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:31:20.000 Circumstances were fucked up. 0.99

01:31:21.000 Outside of the show circumstances. 0.98

01:31:25.000 Yeah, I don't know what happened.

01:31:26.000 Why would Kevin Costner want to leave that show?

01:31:28.000 I just don't understand what happened.

01:31:31.000 What I read or what I thought I learned was that he had his own project.

01:31:34.000 I'm sure he did.

01:31:36.000 I mean, Kevin Costner's been around for so long.

01:31:38.000 It's probably hard for him to do somebody else's thing for so long, too.

01:31:41.000 He was so good.

01:31:42.000 Yeah, I know.

01:31:43.000 He was perfect in that role, too.

01:31:45.000 So iconic.

01:31:46.000 I know.

01:31:47.000 The ending, I mean, even if you're gonna leave, my bummer about it was, even if you're gonna leave, just, I mean...

01:31:55.000 Well, I would go out better than the situation was.

01:31:57.000 I mean, they did it the way they did it.

01:31:58.000 I'm not discrediting the show by any means.

01:32:01.000 But I'm just saying, I just wanted it to be, like, the way it was from the beginning.

01:32:06.000 It was kind of sad how they did it. 0.99

01:32:07.000 But it was almost kind of like a fuck you, it seemed like to me. 0.99

01:32:10.000 From which side, exactly. 0.99

01:32:12.000 I'm not coming back?

01:32:13.000 We'll wait until you see how you go.

01:32:15.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:32:17.000 And Taylor is a little bit, I mean, I wouldn't cross him.

01:32:19.000 Yeah, he's got a little bit of that in him.

01:32:22.000 It's funny.

01:32:22.000 I was telling him about this ranch that I hunt out in California, and he's like, oh, he's a cowboy at that place.

01:32:27.000 Like, he's a legit guy.

01:32:29.000 He's a badass, too.

01:32:31.000 Yeah, he's a good dude, too.

01:32:32.000 Solid human being, you know?

01:32:35.000 You're talking to him.

01:32:36.000 He's right there.

01:32:38.000 He told me, he says, listen, I know what you're doing up there in Northern California.

01:32:41.000 You've done your fundraiser there a bunch of years.

01:32:43.000 He says, come down and do it in my ranch.

01:32:44.000 He says, I will bring you the people with the money that believe in what you're doing with these first responders.

01:32:49.000 Because when we don't have disasters, we just go do positive energy thank yous to different municipalities.

01:32:57.000 We just did one in Florida, South Florida.

01:33:00.000 We just bring the trailer in, bring a bunch of chefs in. 0.98

01:33:03.000 Call up the local sheriff.

01:33:05.000 Call up the troopers.

01:33:05.000 Call up everybody.

01:33:06.000 You know, bring your families if you want.

01:33:08.000 It's free lunch.

01:33:09.000 Time for you to celebrate and be recognized.

01:33:11.000 You know, we got people walking around the streets that don't understand why our country's free.

01:33:16.000 They don't have any idea what it takes to be a free country.

01:33:19.000 And they don't understand the sacrifice, not just the sacrifices that the actual individual makes.

01:33:24.000 But the sacrifice the family makes.

01:33:26.000 I'm not even talking about the loss of somebody.

01:33:28.000 We're talking about just being deployed for seven months and not seeing dad for seven months or seeing your husband or your wife or whatever.

01:33:35.000 And I remember I was on the USS Enterprise and I was doing a philanthropy event years ago.

01:33:42.000 I was cooking for the sailors and a bunch of Marines on there.

01:33:46.000 It was like 5,200 people.

01:33:49.000 And I'm on the line serving this young...

01:33:52.000 I'm a sailor, and she came through, and we were kind of talking for a second.

01:33:56.000 She says, "I have four kids." I said, "How?" She wasn't very old.

01:34:01.000 I said, "How many?" She goes, "Well, I have an eight-month-old baby." "Babies on the ship?" She goes, "No babies, no." I said, "How could you be away from your child at this age?" And she's like, "No, I'm deployed." I'm like, "What a commitment." You know, what a commitment to do.

01:34:20.000 And the kids without.

01:34:21.000 So I think, I mean, my mantra is we talk about people pushing things on other people about their beliefs or their opinions or their attitudes.

01:34:29.000 And I said, you know, I kind of divert from all of it.

01:34:31.000 And, you know, if you don't want to like something, don't like it.

01:34:33.000 That's your thing.

01:34:33.000 But I am hell bent on.

01:34:37.000 What goes on in this country about how we recognize our veterans and our first responders and our active military.

01:34:42.000 We're missing some pieces.

01:34:45.000 Yeah.

01:34:45.000 We got some people that have made the ultimate commitment, the ultimate sacrifice.

01:34:49.000 It's like the stolen valor shit. 0.99

01:34:51.000 Oh, I'll lose my mind on that because... 1.00

01:34:54.000 That's just crazy people.

01:34:55.000 The commitment that it takes.

01:34:57.000 Of course.

01:34:57.000 And so we put so much into putting the soldiers and the sailors and all these military folks into these programs and then...

01:35:05.000 When they come back, I don't think that we put the same amount of commitment.

01:35:10.000 And I think that we've got a lot of people that need a lot of help.

01:35:13.000 There's a lot of PTSD. 1.00

01:35:14.000 There's a lot of shit going on. 0.99

01:35:15.000 So my interest is, I'm not going to solve that situation. 0.99

01:35:18.000 I'm not the one that's going to be able to...

01:35:19.000 But at least you could recognize and give them some love.

01:35:22.000 Recognize, talk about it.

01:35:23.000 We carry challenge coins.

01:35:24.000 I ran into one of your guys as a first responder.

01:35:25.000 Also didn't know that he served our country in the military.

01:35:28.000 Please, when you see somebody in uniform, if you see somebody with a Vietnam vet hat, you see somebody that's in, you know, take a moment, just say thank you.

01:35:37.000 Thank you goes so far.

01:35:39.000 And people think, oh, there's nothing I can do.

01:35:40.000 No, it means a shit ton to people.

01:35:42.000 Yeah.

01:35:43.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to get on my rant, but that's one of my hardcore issues.

01:35:47.000 That's good.

01:35:48.000 That's a beautiful perspective because it's, especially with first responders and law enforcement in this country, they just don't get any love.

01:35:56.000 It's kind of crazy.

01:35:57.000 The cops are the bad guys in this country. 0.99

01:35:59.000 That's why the defund the police movement was driving me fucking crazy. 1.00

01:36:05.000 You guys are out of your mind. 1.00

01:36:07.000 But we're going to have a march and we'd like you to be there to keep people from throwing shit at us. 1.00

01:36:10.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:36:12.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:36:13.000 This is a defund the police march, but we need the police.

01:36:15.000 We need you so the people that are...

01:36:17.000 So when we had the fires in Northern California, I was watching a lot of...

01:36:21.000 We're there feeding them.

01:36:23.000 Actually, we're up in paradise.

01:36:24.000 It was a devastating fire.

01:36:26.000 That was a crazy fire.

01:36:28.000 Joe, I drove through it.

01:36:29.000 I don't know what the surface of the moon looks like, but I can tell you it was as close to it because there was nothing standing.

01:36:37.000 There was nothing there.

01:36:38.000 The only thing that didn't burn down was a fire station.

01:36:40.000 I mean, and not because they defended it.

01:36:43.000 How are those people that got stuck on the road?

01:36:44.000 Stuck.

01:36:45.000 Cars gone.

01:36:45.000 Everything gone.

01:36:46.000 Bombs went.

01:36:46.000 I mean, it was...

01:36:47.000 I don't know the term.

01:36:49.000 But...

01:36:50.000 So I'm standing there and I'm feeding people.

01:36:52.000 And I know for a fact because I've just been inside.

01:36:55.000 I just went to the fire.

01:36:56.000 I went and fed people at the fire station that was the only building standing.

01:37:00.000 And I said, why?

01:37:01.000 Why aren't you guys over here eating?

01:37:03.000 We're serving a bunch of food.

01:37:04.000 Nah.

01:37:05.000 We'll just stay over here.

01:37:07.000 I said, you guys are fire victims.

01:37:08.000 Your house is burnt down.

01:37:10.000 Yeah, but you know.

01:37:11.000 And you had all kinds of restaurants feeding people and all this stuff.

01:37:13.000 And I'm watching these guys eat granola bars and eat MREs.

01:37:17.000 And I said.

01:37:18.000 Come over and get some food.

01:37:19.000 No, no, no.

01:37:20.000 I said, okay.

01:37:21.000 That's it.

01:37:22.000 Next day, picked up my trailer.

01:37:24.000 We moved.

01:37:25.000 I said, we only feed first responders.

01:37:27.000 Not that I'm not about the fire victims.

01:37:28.000 I think the fire victims is terrible.

01:37:29.000 But the reality of this, we have a lot of people that were focusing on the victims and giving them, which they need.

01:37:35.000 But these guys were doing...

01:37:37.000 These men and women weren't going to bed.

01:37:39.000 They were doing 72-hour shifts, sleeping in the back of their patrol car.

01:37:43.000 They drove their patrol car up from Riverside and they're up in Northern California now.

01:37:47.000 And so that's what I changed.

01:37:49.000 I pivoted my whole foundation was when the disasters go down, we're going to get there and we're going to focus on the first responders.

01:37:57.000 We were down in L.A. for 10 days.

01:37:59.000 We fed 25,000 meals.

01:38:01.000 Now, it's not going to feed everybody, and it's not going to take care of everything, but there is a point of them being recognized or knowing that we recognize them.

01:38:10.000 And I had so many chefs in L.A. that showed up and jumped on the trailer and were cooking food, and we were almost cooking 24 hours.

01:38:17.000 It was just rolling over, and people were so thankful.

01:38:20.000 That's awesome.

01:38:21.000 Yeah.

01:38:21.000 But we all can do these things.

01:38:23.000 You know, we can do these things.

01:38:24.000 We can make, donate.

01:38:25.000 Okay, maybe you don't have the money, donate the time.

01:38:27.000 Maybe you don't have the time, do the positive reinforcement on social media.

01:38:31.000 You know, if you don't have the time, you don't have social media, you don't have the money, you don't have time, just pat somebody on the back and say thanks.

01:38:37.000 I mean, we really can do way more.

01:38:40.000 And we can make a bigger impact.

01:38:41.000 Well, just as a society, we need to recognize the importance of these people and appreciate them for what they do.

01:38:49.000 And I don't think that that's been accentuated.

01:38:51.000 That's not been...

01:38:52.000 People haven't focused on that.

01:38:55.000 And that's a top-down thing that comes from the president, that comes from the cabinet, that comes from the way the country perceives these people and the way they award these people and, you know, the way that our...

01:39:07.000 Media treats them.

01:39:09.000 You know, the media had a field day after George Floyd with this defund the police stuff.

01:39:14.000 It's just that kind of devastation that does for morale and for recruiting and, you know, just...

01:39:23.000 The overall feeling that these people have, like, why am I doing this job where not only am I not being thanked for it, but I am being thought of as the enemy?

01:39:32.000 And then if I do something, if I do something, I'm not going to get supported, you know, because I'm going to get persecuted.

01:39:40.000 Right.

01:39:41.000 And every day you show up, you pull people over, you're worried you're going to get shot. 1.00

01:39:44.000 Every fucking day. 1.00

01:39:45.000 They all have PTSD. 1.00

01:39:47.000 Every one of them.

01:39:48.000 You go pull a buddy of mine's a fireman.

01:39:51.000 And I didn't really understand.

01:39:52.000 I didn't think about it until he brought it up to me one day.

01:39:54.000 And he said, his name's Jay LeVar.

01:39:57.000 And Jay said, you know, you go pull kids out of a car.

01:40:02.000 You go to UFA side and then you go home to your kids.

01:40:04.000 Right.

01:40:06.000 It's horrible.

01:40:07.000 That'll just wreck you. 0.91

01:40:08.000 But, you know, like I said, I'm so interested in what we can do.

01:40:14.000 And we have so much.

01:40:16.000 We're the greatest country in the world.

01:40:18.000 We're finally riding the ship.

01:40:19.000 We're getting into a better space.

01:40:21.000 But gosh, let's start focusing on it.

01:40:23.000 Let's start focusing on the fundamentals that made us the ass-kicking, name-taking center that made us the best.

01:40:30.000 And we have to start teaching that.

01:40:32.000 I was just talking about...

01:40:33.000 I just did a podcast for the Dale Carnegie Institute.

01:40:37.000 And that was a book that changed my life when I was young, when I was opening my own research.

01:40:42.000 No, what is it?

01:40:43.000 How to Win Friends and Influence People.

01:40:45.000 And it talks really about just human nature, about how you treat people and treat people the way you want to be treated and think before you act and think before you speak or before you light somebody up on a text.

01:40:54.000 And I was going through this and I said, you know, this is like a course that should be taught at freshman high school.

01:41:04.000 Absolutely.

01:41:05.000 And we should teach.

01:41:06.000 We should teach civility and we should teach respect and responsibility.

01:41:10.000 We should take – back your mouth up. 1.00

01:41:13.000 Don't go popping off.

01:41:15.000 And do these things the way we grew up.

01:41:17.000 I mean I'm not saying that violence is the answer but you definitely didn't have people running their mouth like they do now because there was hell to pay at 3 o 'clock.

01:41:27.000 That kind of stuff.

01:41:28.000 So I think that we need to get involved in teaching our young America that … They have a voice.

01:41:36.000 They have an opinion.

01:41:36.000 They're very worthwhile.

01:41:39.000 And let's just do it the right way.

01:41:41.000 But I think that Dale Carnegie Institute, that How to Win Funds, I didn't know how many things.

01:41:46.000 They do it worldwide.

01:41:47.000 And I just think, I was just telling my sons about it.

01:41:50.000 I said, you can all expect that you're going to be going to one of these programs or doing one of these courses.

01:41:55.000 I made them all read the book.

01:41:56.000 That's great.

01:41:57.000 I mean, people in school get taught how to, I mean, you get taught a lot of information.

01:42:02.000 But I think one of the things that's missing is getting taught how to behave and think and how to critically think and how to view the world.

01:42:11.000 The number...

01:42:13.000 Critical thinking to me is...

01:42:16.000 I mean, even say the term to somebody, critical thinking, and they'll look at you and go...

01:42:20.000 But they don't know what it means.

01:42:23.000 Critical thinking is...

01:42:25.000 Solving situations is evaluating the environment and coming up with calculating.

01:42:31.000 It's not taking a risk.

01:42:33.000 It's taking a calculated risk.

01:42:34.000 There's just so many of those types of things.

01:42:36.000 My dad was a huge critical thing.

01:42:40.000 So we had a rule when I was a kid.

01:42:41.000 Joe would be driving down the road and my dad would say, what are you thinking?

01:42:46.000 You're quiet over there.

01:42:47.000 What are you thinking?

01:42:48.000 One thing I was not allowed to say was nothing. 1.00

01:42:52.000 He'd say, God, full of shit. 1.00

01:42:55.000 What are you thinking? 1.00

01:42:57.000 I'm saying, well, it's all grass, but under the telephone pole, there's no grass. 0.96

01:43:08.000 And then we would spend the next goddamn hour talking about why there's no grass under the telephone pole. 0.93

01:43:17.000 Why is there no grass under the telephone pole? 0.98

01:43:19.000 Fire.

01:43:20.000 You know, the ability to get to the poles.

01:43:22.000 They have to be able to drive to them.

01:43:23.000 So you look at it because like you go into the wine country, you know, you look at all these mountains that have all these telephone poles going.

01:43:31.000 If you find roads on top of mountains and so forth, it's usually fire break or access to the telephone poles.

01:43:39.000 But we would do this critical thinking thing.

01:43:42.000 And it was so funny.

01:43:43.000 My nephew, my sister was dying of cancer.

01:43:47.000 Took him away for the day, and we're driving around in Corvette, and we're at the stoplight, manual Corvette, and I'm sitting there talking to Jules.

01:43:55.000 Jules is about nine, and he says, you know, I really like talking to you.

01:44:00.000 He says, you're fun to talk to.

01:44:01.000 He says, it's a little bit different than talking to Jamps.

01:44:04.000 Jamps was my dad.

01:44:05.000 He says, I said, what do you mean, Jules?

01:44:06.000 And he says, well, you know, sometimes when I ask Jamps, you know, like, what time is it?

01:44:14.000 I just want to know what time it is.

01:44:15.000 I don't want to know how the clock is made.

01:44:18.000 I slipped the clutch, man.

01:44:20.000 The car burned out.

01:44:21.000 I'm like, Jesus Christ!

01:44:22.000 I don't want to know how the clock is made.

01:44:24.000 Because that was my dad, man.

01:44:25.000 You'd ask him a question.

01:44:26.000 I'd go, what time is it?

01:44:27.000 Well, do you understand the difference between the analog?

01:44:29.000 You got a digital...

01:44:30.000 He and my dad would go into this.

01:44:32.000 He was a submariner during Vietnam.

01:44:34.000 He was a piece of work.

01:44:35.000 Oh, really?

01:44:36.000 Yeah.

01:44:36.000 I lost him.

01:44:38.000 Right around my birthday a year and a half ago of pancreatic cancer, but he lived for six years with it.

01:44:43.000 God, you had a lot of cancer in your family. 0.99

01:44:45.000 It sucks, man. 0.97

01:44:46.000 And I think that, like, I didn't, until you're in that club, the club sucks, but when you meet somebody that is in the fight, the fight for their life, give them a hug, give them a smile, give them encouragement, and if they have battled and they have won, Recognize them as a warrior, as a survivor, especially breast cancer and all these horrible cancers that people are stricken with. 0.98

01:45:14.000 We need to have more apathy, more understanding.

01:45:17.000 And I'll tell you, one of the greatest groups of people in the whole world, hospice.

01:45:23.000 I don't know how much you know about them and what it is, but if you don't understand what hospice does, they're earth angels.

01:45:32.000 There are people that come in when you're battling this.

01:45:35.000 You're watching a loved one die.

01:45:36.000 And they come in and they're the people that help you with the meds and help you with the caregiving and help you.

01:45:41.000 And you don't even know them.

01:45:44.000 And they come into your life and they leave your life once the cancer is.

01:45:47.000 But they stay.

01:45:48.000 You'll meet them on the street again or you'll see something.

01:45:51.000 But hospice is one of the greatest programs we have in this country.

01:45:54.000 I don't know if it's worldwide, but it is.

01:45:57.000 Hopefully you don't ever need to know it.

01:45:59.000 It's just shocking how many people have cancer. 0.99

01:46:01.000 Fucked up. 0.99

01:46:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:46:04.000 I've never been on a podcast where you can cuss. 0.99

01:46:07.000 Really?

01:46:07.000 I haven't been on many podcasts.

01:46:09.000 How many podcasts have you been on?

01:46:10.000 I don't know.

01:46:11.000 Which ones can't you cuss on? 1.00

01:46:12.000 I don't know.

01:46:13.000 Listen, I come from the Food Network.

01:46:14.000 We don't do a lot of cussing on the Food Network.

01:46:17.000 But you get me all fired. 1.00

01:46:18.000 I got fired up on my own about this shit. 1.00

01:46:20.000 But don't you cuss in normal life? 1.00

01:46:22.000 Oh, I got sailor.

01:46:23.000 Right, right.

01:46:24.000 Most people do.

01:46:25.000 So why would they stop people from cussing?

01:46:27.000 I don't understand that.

01:46:28.000 I've asked them forever, could we please bleep just the show once in a while?

01:46:30.000 They say no?

01:46:31.000 Because sometimes I'll eat a dish.

01:46:33.000 People say, I watch the show.

01:46:34.000 They say no?

01:46:35.000 You can't?

01:46:36.000 Yeah, it's not really...

01:46:37.000 It doesn't really get...

01:46:38.000 It hasn't made it too many.

01:46:40.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:46:41.000 It does.

01:46:42.000 It does matter because it's authenticity.

01:46:45.000 It is authenticity, and it is the spike.

01:46:47.000 It is the hammer. 0.98

01:46:47.000 It is the, this dish is so fucking good. 0.98

01:46:50.000 Sometimes you've got to say, this is fucking great. 0.98

01:46:51.000 That's real. 0.99

01:46:53.000 Like Cat's Deli.

01:46:54.000 Maybe you're going to inspire me to push this button.

01:46:56.000 I just don't understand why they would not.

01:46:58.000 I mean, if you want to beep it out, that's fine.

01:47:00.000 No, it has to be.

01:47:00.000 It would have to be bleeped out.

01:47:02.000 Why even do that, though?

01:47:03.000 Yeah, I got a lot of kids.

01:47:05.000 Oh, kids, the last thing we want to know.

01:47:07.000 Because they don't watch, because they can't get, remember when we had a Playboy hidden, you know, kids now?

01:47:14.000 Yeah, they got hardcore porn on their phone.

01:47:15.000 They can bring it up in the middle of school.

01:47:17.000 In high school, yeah.

01:47:18.000 High school!

01:47:18.000 Kind of nuts.

01:47:19.000 Yeah.

01:47:20.000 It's kind of nuts.

01:47:21.000 It's not healthy.

01:47:23.000 I'm sure.

01:47:24.000 They're being subjected to some stuff that, I mean, just the amount of murder they see.

01:47:29.000 You know, kids are seeing car accidents and assassinations.

01:47:33.000 On?

01:47:33.000 On their phone.

01:47:34.000 Twitter.

01:47:35.000 Every day.

01:47:35.000 And things that were very difficult to find when I was a kid.

01:47:38.000 You had to find, like, faces of death.

01:47:40.000 Remember that?

01:47:41.000 Yeah.

01:47:41.000 The monkey in the table.

01:47:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:47:43.000 Apparently a lot of that stuff was fake.

01:47:46.000 No, really?

01:47:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:48.000 A lot of the faces of death stuff was fake.

01:47:50.000 But some of it was real, like the one where they took the guy and they tied him between two trucks and they separated his body.

01:47:57.000 Yeah.

01:47:58.000 Good family fun.

01:47:59.000 Come on over for Friday pizza night.

01:48:01.000 Yeah.

01:48:01.000 Remember when you were a kid, though, getting the VHS, you'd go, you know, ours would have to go get it at the liquor store, little town, you know, or you'd go all the way across the bridge and go get it and you'd put your, you know.

01:48:12.000 name down for the reservation to get it and you'll get faces of death and your friends would all come over and yeah yeah pizza night you'd have to hide those things from your parents Yeah, exactly.

01:48:24.000 Yeah, now kids just have access to all the horrors of the world on their phone.

01:48:29.000 And then they have to deal with, you know, people DMing them and contacting them. 0.99

01:48:34.000 Like who are these fucking predators? 0.99

01:48:37.000 That are reaching out to kids on a daily basis. 1.00

01:48:39.000 They keep arresting people for that.

01:48:41.000 You keep wanting to think that that's not a thing.

01:48:43.000 And then you keep finding out more and more of it. 0.98

01:48:45.000 It's like, fucking A. Tim Tebow was just on my friend Sean Ryan's show. 0.99

01:48:49.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:48:50.000 What was it, 110,000?

01:48:53.000 But see, we don't do...

01:48:55.000 We don't do anything about it.

01:48:57.000 Again, I don't want to get into...

01:48:58.000 Well, you know the thing to do about it.

01:49:00.000 Oh, hey.

01:49:01.000 Unfortunately, you don't want to encourage vigilantism, but that's...

01:49:04.000 Public square?

01:49:05.000 You mean maybe?

01:49:06.000 Not even...

01:49:06.000 Just, you know, it's...

01:49:09.000 The problem is you can't do that because some people are going to be unjustly accused.

01:49:15.000 It's unfairly targeted.

01:49:18.000 You know, there's people that...

01:49:20.000 You can't just...

01:49:21.000 You have to have due process.

01:49:22.000 Well, Chris Hansen, you ever seen his Catch a Predator?

01:49:24.000 Yes.

01:49:25.000 So, I love when they give the recap.

01:49:28.000 You know, I guess that show's stopped and now he's doing it on his own or whatever the case is and they give the recap.

01:49:34.000 And thank God he was doing that stuff.

01:49:36.000 I know.

01:49:37.000 He opened a lot of people's eyes because most of us...

01:49:40.000 You know, if you live in a normal neighborhood with normal friends, you don't have, you know, you might have heard a story here and there. 1.00

01:49:49.000 This is real shit. 1.00

01:49:50.000 They were bringing their kids to it. 1.00

01:49:51.000 Yeah.

01:49:52.000 You don't see it.

01:49:53.000 Every day.

01:49:54.000 Coaches.

01:49:56.000 Politicians.

01:49:57.000 Attorneys.

01:49:57.000 I know.

01:49:58.000 There's some sick people out there, man, and they live amongst us. 1.00

01:50:01.000 That's what's fucked up. 1.00

01:50:03.000 And then the Nickelodeon thing. 0.87

01:50:04.000 When you find out that people that were actually working for Nickelodeon...

01:50:08.000 Pressuring those kids.

01:50:10.000 Oh, God, man.

01:50:11.000 But if you thought about it, like if you were really cynical and you thought about it through an evil mind, if you wanted to abuse kids, what would you do?

01:50:19.000 You would work with kids.

01:50:20.000 Work at Nickelodeon.

01:50:21.000 Jimmy Savile.

01:50:22.000 You know about that guy, right?

01:50:25.000 You don't know about that guy?

01:50:26.000 No. 0.90

01:50:26.000 Oh my god, he's the worst one. 0.90

01:50:29.000 First of all, this guy looked like a guy who would molest kids. 1.00

01:50:32.000 He looked like a fucking monster. 1.00

01:50:35.000 And he had this show, I think it was called Jimmy'll Fix It. 1.00

01:50:40.000 Is that what it was called?

01:50:42.000 Jim'll Fix It.

01:50:44.000 He worked with all these really sick kids, and everybody was like, oh, what a saint.

01:50:50.000 That guy. 0.94

01:50:51.000 And that guy was molesting children.

01:50:53.000 Who knows how many of them?

01:50:56.000 Oh, so there's a Netflix thing on it?

01:50:58.000 Jimmy Savile, a British horror story, Netflix official site, it says.

01:51:02.000 How about getting called to play that guy in a movie?

01:51:05.000 That would suck, because it's that guy right there who must be playing the guy in the movie.

01:51:08.000 Oh, must be. 0.63

01:51:09.000 Jimmy Coogan.

01:51:11.000 I feel bad for Jimmy, because he looks like... 0.99

01:51:13.000 Steve Coogan, yeah.

01:51:15.000 Oh, my God.

01:51:16.000 Yeah, you don't even want to watch that.

01:51:18.000 I don't even want to know.

01:51:19.000 But they hid the fact that people knew that this guy was doing these things.

01:51:24.000 Well, you look at what happened to the poor Boy Scouts.

01:51:26.000 Look at what happened to the poor Boy Scouts.

01:51:28.000 I mean, I didn't make it to Eagle Scout and that stuff, but it was a Boy Scout.

01:51:32.000 Learned some great stuff.

01:51:34.000 Not any idea that stuff was going on.

01:51:37.000 I don't think anything happened in my troupe.

01:51:38.000 I never heard about it.

01:51:41.000 But that's exactly what you're saying.

01:51:42.000 These guys would just go find their avenue, what's going to get close to them, and then we're going to start doing it.

01:51:48.000 So where is the...

01:51:50.000 Remember, who was the guy that shot the predator, the karate coach that took his kid and he waited at the airport?

01:51:56.000 Yeah.

01:51:57.000 Yeah, that famous video?

01:51:59.000 Yeah.

01:51:59.000 That guy.

01:52:01.000 I mean...

01:52:02.000 Yeah, he's a hero.

01:52:04.000 That's how to handle it.

01:52:05.000 Yeah, I agree 100%.

01:52:07.000 I mean, it's just...

01:52:10.000 It's sick, but It's like if you were a sick person, that's what you would do.

01:52:16.000 If you wanted to be around kids, you would pretend that you're really interested in helping kids.

01:52:21.000 Yeah, I was in the Boy Scouts, too.

01:52:22.000 Nothing happened to me.

01:52:23.000 I was in a good troop.

01:52:25.000 But I was in the Boy Scouts with a bunch of crazy inner-city kids.

01:52:28.000 I was living in Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts, which is kind of sketchy outside of Boston.

01:52:34.000 And they brought us to New Hampshire. 0.99

01:52:37.000 We were all in the woods, and they were fucking... 0.98

01:52:40.000 Tying kids up to their cots and dragging them out in the woods in the middle of the night and leaving them there like other kids were doing that and putting toothpaste on all your clothes because you couldn't wash it off. 1.00

01:52:50.000 They were just psycho kids. 0.64

01:52:51.000 And they gave us 22s. 0.97

01:52:53.000 That was the other part of the problem.

01:52:54.000 I remember I was hanging out with my friends and I heard...

01:52:56.000 I was like, what is that?

01:52:59.000 And someone goes, that's a ricochet. 1.00

01:53:00.000 I was like, fuck this. 0.99

01:53:02.000 So the entire time I was in camp, all I did was go fishing every day. 1.00

01:53:06.000 They had all these activities.

01:53:07.000 I'm like, you guys can... 1.00

01:53:08.000 Kiss my ass. 1.00

01:53:09.000 I'd grab a fishing rod and go down to the lake. 1.00

01:53:12.000 I'm like, I'm just going to go fishing the entire two weeks I'm here. 1.00

01:53:15.000 Fuck this. 1.00

01:53:17.000 It was just too many. 1.00

01:53:18.000 But no one was getting fucked, at least. 0.98

01:53:20.000 It was just mostly kids being just unregulated. 0.99

01:53:24.000 What a great way to fuck up a great program. 0.70

01:53:27.000 You know, you get these people that get in there and do that stuff. 0.98

01:53:30.000 And kids are so...

01:53:31.000 I mean, you have kids.

01:53:33.000 There's always going to be people that are evil.

01:53:36.000 And a lot of those people, unfortunately, have had evil imposed on them too when they were young.

01:53:42.000 And that's the really sad part about it.

01:53:44.000 It's almost like getting bit by a vampire and then you wind up doing it too.

01:53:49.000 Zombie.

01:53:50.000 Yeah.

01:53:52.000 It's very evil.

01:53:53.000 And they exist.

01:53:54.000 And then there's also, like, people that are elites.

01:53:58.000 And that's their thing.

01:54:00.000 Like, their thing is to do something that is horrible.

01:54:03.000 And, you know, it's not available to other people.

01:54:08.000 So it's like...

01:54:09.000 I think there's like a sickness that people have when they have power, like extreme power.

01:54:15.000 And then they go, what else can I do?

01:54:17.000 What else can I do?

01:54:18.000 What else is taboo?

01:54:21.000 What else is forbidden? 1.00

01:54:22.000 Like all this ditty shit that's coming out. 0.99

01:54:24.000 I was just going to say, doesn't that sound topical? 0.99

01:54:26.000 Jesus Christ.

01:54:28.000 The first day of the trial, did you pay attention to any of that stuff?

01:54:31.000 I looked at it for like 10 minutes this morning and I was like, I got to stop.

01:54:34.000 I can't look at this.

01:54:36.000 Well, what freaks me out is The people sitting in the courtroom listening to it.

01:54:42.000 Right.

01:54:43.000 And there's a wide spectrum of people that are getting subjected to it, and you just sit there and go...

01:54:49.000 Yeah, well, not only that, how about the fact that this guy was running this for decades?

01:54:54.000 He was doing this for decades. 0.99

01:54:56.000 Who knows how many fucking people, and everybody was scared to talk about it because he'd have them killed. 1.00

01:55:02.000 Yeah, it's really wild, man. 1.00

01:55:05.000 Evil is a real thing, you know? 0.88

01:55:09.000 Nobody wants to believe, because if you believe in the devil, right, if you believe in Satan, you believe in something that's silly.

01:55:20.000 Like, most people believe, a lot of people believe in God.

01:55:23.000 If you ask people, do you believe in God?

01:55:24.000 Yeah, well, I'm not religious, but I believe in God.

01:55:27.000 Okay, well, do you believe in the devil?

01:55:29.000 Most people say no.

01:55:31.000 But do you believe in evil acts?

01:55:33.000 Well, yeah, well, people certainly do evil things.

01:55:35.000 Well, where do you think that comes from?

01:55:37.000 If evil is real, what is it about us that makes us want to deny the possibility that there's some nefarious force that is in human beings, that influences human beings?

01:55:52.000 It's not as simple as, like, some people are bad, some people are good.

01:55:56.000 Maybe evil is a real element that you have to fight in life.

01:56:01.000 And that maybe this is just something that's been documented all throughout history, but our arrogance and our secular society wants to keep us from recognizing that as an actual factor.

01:56:12.000 And that's why it gets through.

01:56:15.000 That's a really great way to say it because if you denounce...

01:56:21.000 Okay, so you say there's no devil.

01:56:23.000 Right.

01:56:24.000 So then you're somewhat saying that there's no evil, but you're not branding evil with some type of identifying factor.

01:56:33.000 Then you kind of glaze over it a little bit.

01:56:36.000 I think that's what I'm hearing you're saying.

01:56:37.000 And I agree with it because it gets a little too – I think people want tangibility.

01:56:44.000 I think people like to be able to understand.

01:56:47.000 Things and see it for real and so forth.

01:56:49.000 But when you start just talking about root evil, when you start looking at things, like I went to the Oklahoma bombing memorial. 0.99

01:56:57.000 When you look at shit like that, you think about the hate on this country and the 9-11. 0.99

01:57:05.000 Or you just take it down to the Boy Scout troop leader. 1.00

01:57:09.000 Or you take it to the...

01:57:11.000 You take it to whatever.

01:57:13.000 There is a common denominator there, and that is just what you call it, evil.

01:57:18.000 So call it devil, don't call it devil, but call it evil.

01:57:21.000 The evilness is just, and not being aware of it or not allowing ourself to believe it, I think is part of the...

01:57:31.000 Well, it's the old quote, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled is making people believe he doesn't exist.

01:57:38.000 Well said.

01:57:39.000 But if you're...

01:57:40.000 If you want to be thought of as a serious person, you never consider the devil.

01:57:45.000 Like, oh, come on.

01:57:46.000 There's no Satan.

01:57:48.000 Down there, burning.

01:57:50.000 Outrageous.

01:57:50.000 Get away.

01:57:51.000 You know?

01:57:52.000 Yeah, so how do you...

01:57:52.000 So where do you...

01:57:53.000 So how do you... 0.99

01:57:54.000 Boy, this goes in a lot of goddamn... 0.99

01:57:56.000 This goes down some rabbit holes. 0.99

01:57:57.000 Yeah, there's rabbit holes in life, you know?

01:58:00.000 Life is a lot of rabbit holes.

01:58:02.000 But see, to me, this is when we talk about critical thinking.

01:58:05.000 This is the stuff that when you really sit down and you have some conversations besides arguing whose team is better, you know, this is the type of stuff that you really have to get into some perspective.

01:58:16.000 You can learn a lot.

01:58:18.000 If you're willing to talk about things and you're willing to open up and you're willing to be wrong.

01:58:22.000 It's one of the things I'm always into is don't go into something with a predisposed opinion about it and be so hell-bent on it's your way because you might really get your mind changed or you might really learn something about it.

01:58:33.000 But as soon as you lock down on it's this way, you know, and that's...

01:58:38.000 There's no devil.

01:58:39.000 Yeah.

01:58:39.000 God's not real.

01:58:41.000 I deal with it. 0.74

01:58:42.000 When you die, you just die. 1.00

01:58:43.000 How the fuck do you know, bitch? 1.00

01:58:45.000 Have you been dead? 1.00

01:58:46.000 Like, what are you talking about?

01:58:47.000 Do you believe...

01:58:48.000 Have you ever been to a medium?

01:58:49.000 A medium?

01:58:50.000 Like a psychic medium?

01:58:51.000 No.

01:58:51.000 Not a real one.

01:58:53.000 I mean, I don't think that...

01:58:55.000 I'm not like one of those people that says they don't exist.

01:58:58.000 I think it's possible.

01:58:59.000 I was very anti.

01:59:01.000 Not anti-preaching, but anti-demon.

01:59:04.000 So my mom believes in it.

01:59:05.000 My mom did.

01:59:06.000 My wife does.

01:59:08.000 Wasn't my cup of tea.

01:59:09.000 Not saying bad.

01:59:10.000 Just wasn't my cup of tea.

01:59:13.000 My sister died real close with my sister.

01:59:17.000 And...

01:59:17.000 I kept getting this weird feeling.

01:59:22.000 I mean, my wife's not telling me to go.

01:59:23.000 My mom's not telling me to go.

01:59:25.000 No one's saying a thing to me.

01:59:30.000 Then this hawk is a representation of my sister.

01:59:33.000 I'm driving my big RV cross-country with my family.

01:59:37.000 Every year we do a big, huge road trip with the family.

01:59:40.000 This hawk flies outside of my window.

01:59:43.000 Five minutes. 0.99

01:59:44.000 No shit. 1.00

01:59:44.000 It was a real five minutes. 1.00

01:59:46.000 Flew along the freeway with me.

01:59:47.000 As fast as I was gone.

01:59:49.000 Dirt road.

01:59:51.000 So I asked my mom who was the lady to call. 1.00

01:59:55.000 So I went and had this thing.

01:59:57.000 Didn't know me very well.

01:59:59.000 Didn't know much about me.

02:00:00.000 I had the most mind-blowing experience.

02:00:03.000 Like, mind-blowing.

02:00:06.000 And I had to really sit there.

02:00:08.000 I had to go back to my wife and my mom and say, Okay.

02:00:13.000 There's something out there that's going on that's...

02:00:16.000 I'm going that's bigger than us, than I can comprehend.

02:00:20.000 And the way I kind of, to make sense of it for myself, because I have to make sense of it, is if you're a baby laying in a bassinet and you can smell and you can breathe and you can poop and you can eat and you can sleep and giggle, but I can talk to you, I can talk to you, but the baby can't understand me.

02:00:36.000 But there's some transmission of connection, you know, make it giggle.

02:00:42.000 At this stage, am I the baby in the bassinet?

02:00:45.000 And my sister's trying to talk to me, and I'm just kind of getting it, but is that possible?

02:00:53.000 The older I get, the more I start to buy into, there's got to be something else.

02:00:57.000 There's no way it can be all this and not be something more.

02:01:04.000 It just didn't vaporize, go away.

02:01:07.000 So, the other day, maybe six months ago, I sat in a hot tub.

02:01:14.000 I've got my routine of hot sauna, cold plunge, hot tub, infrared.

02:01:18.000 I do all that.

02:01:19.000 But I'm sitting there, and I keep getting this thing.

02:01:22.000 I've got to call this medium lady. 0.89

02:01:25.000 And I text her, and I said, hey, can I come see you?

02:01:31.000 And she goes, yeah.

02:01:34.000 She goes, your dad's been hitting me up quite a bit.

02:01:40.000 Your dad wants to talk to you.

02:01:43.000 Your dead dad.

02:01:45.000 My dead dad. 0.83

02:01:47.000 Has been hitting her up.

02:01:49.000 To get in touch with me, to make...

02:01:51.000 Does she know that your father's dead?

02:01:53.000 She knows my dad.

02:01:54.000 Yeah, she knew my dad's dead.

02:01:55.000 But the point was, and there was more intricacies about it, but she said, yeah, he's been talking about it.

02:02:04.000 She goes, were you just in Mexico?

02:02:07.000 I said, yeah.

02:02:08.000 Did you do something about him in Mexico?

02:02:10.000 Something about an owl?

02:02:12.000 There's no way in a million years she would know this.

02:02:16.000 An owl?

02:02:17.000 Yeah, my dad comes back as an owl.

02:02:20.000 So he said he was going to be as an owl.

02:02:25.000 This is what he was saying to her?

02:02:26.000 To me.

02:02:27.000 To you?

02:02:28.000 Yeah, this is before he died.

02:02:29.000 Before he died, he said, I'm going to come back as an owl?

02:02:31.000 Owl was the thing.

02:02:33.000 Wise guy.

02:02:34.000 Okay. 1.00

02:02:36.000 Owls are dumb as shit. 1.00

02:02:38.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:02:39.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:02:40.000 I don't know.

02:02:40.000 I've never seen it.

02:02:42.000 They're smarter than me. 0.97

02:02:42.000 They scared the shit out of me. 0.97

02:02:44.000 No, they're really dumb birds. 1.00

02:02:45.000 That's great. 1.00

02:02:45.000 That's what my dad would talk about. 1.00

02:02:46.000 Thanks a lot, Jimmy. 0.97

02:02:47.000 No, I'm not saying your dad's dumb.

02:02:49.000 I'm just saying it's weird that we all have this idea of owls being wise. 0.98

02:02:52.000 I talked to this lady who trains birds. 1.00

02:02:54.000 She says they're the dumb ones? 1.00

02:02:55.000 They're some of the dumbest birds. 1.00

02:02:56.000 It's like the only thing dumber than them is emus. 1.00

02:02:59.000 It's like emus are dumb as shit. 1.00

02:03:00.000 I just saw emus on a ranch yesterday. 1.00

02:03:02.000 She's like, we have this idea that owls are really smart.

02:03:05.000 Well, whatever the case is.

02:03:07.000 I hung up a stained glass owl where my dad used to sit in our house in Mexico.

02:03:16.000 No way you know that.

02:03:17.000 There's no way.

02:03:19.000 So, I don't know.

02:03:21.000 I'm not cheating or preaching.

02:03:22.000 There's something bigger going on there.

02:03:24.000 Have you ever heard of the telepathy tapes? 0.99

02:03:25.000 I know people are looking at me going, guys, guys, fucking crazy. 0.96

02:03:27.000 But it really is my... 0.99

02:03:29.000 There's got to be something else.

02:03:30.000 Have you ever heard of the telepathy tapes?

02:03:32.000 No.

02:03:32.000 The telepathy tapes are...

02:03:35.000 This podcast, this woman put together from her work with nonverbal autistic kids and their families.

02:03:41.000 Nonverbal autistic kids and their mothers in particular have an incredible measurable psychic bond where the mother can be in another room.

02:03:51.000 The mother...

02:03:53.000 You can look at images.

02:03:54.000 The kid will be able to write down what the mother sees.

02:03:57.000 The mother could be reading things, and the child will write down what she's reading.

02:04:02.000 And it turns out these kids have abilities that are unexplainable.

02:04:09.000 She documented a nonverbal autistic kid who had the ability to read hieroglyphs.

02:04:16.000 They have the ability to read languages that they've never studied.

02:04:20.000 It's very strange.

02:04:23.000 And that they all meet up on some place called The Hill.

02:04:26.000 Psychically, they meet up together and they all describe it.

02:04:30.000 So some place psychically where all these nonverbal autistic kids get together. 0.98

02:04:38.000 Yeah.

02:04:39.000 So this documentary, The Telepathy Tapes, is like...

02:04:42.000 Very well researched.

02:04:45.000 Like what they're doing, they made sure they covered up any reflective surfaces.

02:04:50.000 They checked everybody for wires.

02:04:52.000 They scanned the room for any device that could possibly transmit information.

02:04:57.000 There was nothing.

02:04:57.000 And these children were able to do this like...

02:05:01.000 100% of the time.

02:05:03.000 It's a real documented phenomenon that a lot of people were reluctant to believe in.

02:05:09.000 You know, because it's one of those things.

02:05:10.000 You believe in it all. 1.00

02:05:11.000 You believe in fucking fairy tales, superstition shit. 1.00

02:05:14.000 You're a sucker. 1.00

02:05:16.000 But no, it's real. 1.00

02:05:17.000 There's some sort of a bond that exists.

02:05:20.000 And the more people that I've talked to about this...

02:05:24.000 Think that this is—it's not that this is an emerging phenomenon in human beings, but it's a neglected aspect of our senses.

02:05:33.000 Of awareness.

02:05:34.000 Because of language and because of media, we're being exposed to things all the time.

02:05:39.000 So we've— Kind of let that part of our brain atrophy.

02:05:42.000 But that's intuition.

02:05:44.000 That's when you know things about someone. 1.00

02:05:45.000 You meet someone you know they're full of shit. 1.00

02:05:47.000 You know, some people, you meet them and, like, right away, like, get me the fuck away from this guy. 1.00

02:05:51.000 You know what I mean? 0.96

02:05:52.000 I got you.

02:05:53.000 You feel their spirit.

02:05:55.000 They feel their energy, right?

02:05:57.000 Yeah, but there's something real to that.

02:05:59.000 And if you're in tune to it, you'll live a better life because you'll make better decisions.

02:06:04.000 Because you'll feel that energy and you'll go, I see where this is going.

02:06:07.000 I've had this.

02:06:08.000 Yeah, this thing is.

02:06:09.000 So it was funny because when I said to the medium, I said, "I'm here.

02:06:17.000 Where's my sister?" She said, "Oh, she doesn't need to talk to you." I said, "What the f...?" I said, "I just made this whole thing to come here." She said, "She talks to you every day. 1.00

02:06:29.000 She talks to you all the time." Because I was raising her kid.

02:06:32.000 My parents, he lived with my mom and dad, lived right next door to us.

02:06:35.000 Lori and I have the two boys, Hunter and Ryder, but we're all big family and within the same acre.

02:06:41.000 And I'm like, wow, it is happening.

02:06:46.000 I do.

02:06:46.000 I get all these things because I'm thinking about things I'm talking to Jules about and things I'm working with Jules about as a young boy and just all these things.

02:06:53.000 And a lot of it coming from things I think of my sister.

02:06:56.000 And I don't know.

02:06:59.000 This is way outside of the spectrum of anything I ever talk about.

02:07:02.000 I mean, I tell my close friends about it, and probably people watching this now saying, isn't that guy that does the show about the pizza?

02:07:08.000 Where's he coming off on this talking to his dad, the owl, the non-smart bird?

02:07:14.000 But I believe...

02:07:16.000 Well, we've seen the stories about somebody that's...

02:07:18.000 Autistic, and then they could just hear a song and play the piano.

02:07:20.000 Yes.

02:07:21.000 I mean, that's not Hocus Pocus.

02:07:22.000 No.

02:07:22.000 That's not fake stuff.

02:07:24.000 This is really, our brains are so much more powerful than, you know, than we, it's like talking to people from, I have a buddy of mine that's from Germany.

02:07:33.000 He speaks four languages.

02:07:36.000 He's a pretty smart guy, but he speaks four languages.

02:07:38.000 They all get taught English in school.

02:07:41.000 While they get taught German.

02:07:43.000 Right.

02:07:43.000 From a young age, from like first grade.

02:07:45.000 Yeah.

02:07:45.000 So they all, you know, most of them all know how to speak a second language.

02:07:49.000 But once you can learn a language and learn the, you know, how to adapt to languages, you have the opportunity to, you know, be more, you know, available to learn other languages.

02:07:58.000 I just, you sit there and look at it and go, man, do we not utilize, how much of it do we use?

02:08:02.000 Yeah, we distract ourselves with a lot of nonsense.

02:08:04.000 But that's also the difference between an athlete and a sedentary person.

02:08:08.000 Obviously, your body can do a lot more than you're asking of it.

02:08:11.000 But there's something about autistic kids.

02:08:13.000 They tap into some aspect of the brain that's just unavailable to you and I. There's this one kid who flew over Manhattan in a helicopter and then did an absolutely picture-perfect, detailed drawing of the skyline.

02:08:31.000 Just from memory.

02:08:32.000 Photo, yeah.

02:08:33.000 And you watch him draw it.

02:08:35.000 You're like, this is insane.

02:08:36.000 And then you see the actual photo of the skyline.

02:08:39.000 You're like, how?

02:08:40.000 How?

02:08:41.000 Here it is.

02:08:42.000 This kid.

02:08:46.000 I mean, this is incredible, man.

02:08:48.000 So this kid's...

02:08:49.000 Look at that.

02:08:50.000 How insane is that?

02:08:51.000 From flying over one time? 1.00

02:08:53.000 From fucking memory. 1.00

02:08:54.000 Just from memory. 1.00

02:08:58.000 I mean...

02:09:00.000 This is incredible, man.

02:09:02.000 Look at this.

02:09:04.000 It's so nuts, man.

02:09:06.000 Like, he remembers everything he saw.

02:09:10.000 And then he's drawing it.

02:09:12.000 Joe, he's not drawing a picture.

02:09:15.000 He's drawing a...

02:09:16.000 He's doing a billboard.

02:09:18.000 Yeah, he's not...

02:09:19.000 It's a huge thing. 0.99

02:09:21.000 And he's doing every fucking window, man. 0.99

02:09:24.000 This kid remembers everything. 1.00

02:09:26.000 It's nuts.

02:09:28.000 I work with a program called Best Buddies.

02:09:32.000 I've never heard of it.

02:09:33.000 Working with intellectually disabled adults and kids.

02:09:36.000 Had a cousin with intellectual disabilities.

02:09:38.000 I just thought everybody had a cousin that was, you know, a little different, a little unique.

02:09:42.000 And super major part of our family, Doug.

02:09:45.000 And so I heard about, I learned about this program, Best Buddies, and it was started by Anthony Shriver, who's Eunice Shriver's son.

02:09:54.000 Eunice Shriver started the Special Olympics.

02:09:57.000 And Sergeant Shriver was the star of the SEC.

02:10:00.000 You know, the Shriver, the Kennedys, that whole group.

02:10:02.000 Do you know what I'm speaking of?

02:10:03.000 So anyhow, I work with this program.

02:10:05.000 And I work with these intellectually disabled adults and kids called Best Buddies.

02:10:10.000 And when I got involved, it was Tom Brady hosting a celebrity football game at Harvard.

02:10:16.000 And everybody would come and get involved and the buddies that were athletic would participate.

02:10:19.000 And I was just there because I was invited to go.

02:10:22.000 So I had to do something.

02:10:23.000 So I cooked.

02:10:24.000 I made appetizers for the event.

02:10:26.000 And it was so funny how these buddies would gravitate towards me.

02:10:30.000 And they wanted to cook.

02:10:32.000 You know, food's that common denominator of all people.

02:10:34.000 And so we really have developed the program into this Best Buddies program where we got all the buddies partnering with chefs.

02:10:42.000 And the buddies love to do the repetitive, love to, things that are laid out, organized, and put them together and so forth.

02:10:49.000 But just an amazing group of people.

02:10:52.000 And huge hearts and huge energy and huge, never a bad day.

02:10:59.000 Always a smile.

02:11:00.000 Always happy.

02:11:01.000 Always want to give you a hug.

02:11:02.000 You know, there's just so many.

02:11:05.000 But again, when we were talking about things that get glazed over, things that get, you know, you had school, you had the special ed group, and they went off to their space.

02:11:12.000 And we never really, I think, educated people how to work inside or work with or understand or have the compassion to understand, you know.

02:11:20.000 People with disabilities.

02:11:22.000 And fortunately, I think we're getting better at it.

02:11:24.000 I think our country is – our world is starting to – but when we can look at that and take that appreciation and see that and not see that as weird but take that and appreciate it and think it and say, wow, here's somebody that's taking a difficulty or a major difficulty and doing something with it.

02:11:38.000 And I think that's – we need to be more – we need to open our minds up more.

02:11:43.000 To that stuff.

02:11:44.000 Well, we don't really understand all that the mind is capable of.

02:11:48.000 When you see someone do something like that, you're like, why is that available to an autistic kid and not available to everyone else?

02:11:55.000 Like, what is it about that?

02:11:57.000 Like, what is it about whatever he's missing in his ability to communicate?

02:12:03.000 I don't know if he's nonverbal.

02:12:05.000 I don't know what that young man's issues are in particular.

02:12:09.000 But clearly...

02:12:11.000 There's something that doesn't work well, so something else works in an extraordinary way.

02:12:18.000 And this is a thing with some of them that are just geniuses when it comes to music or mathematics or whatever it is.

02:12:25.000 It's like the brain has this insane potential in all sorts of weird ways.

02:12:31.000 Which brings us back to how much of the problem is what we're distracting our brains with every day.

02:12:39.000 And what kind of fuel are you feeding your brain? 1.00

02:12:43.000 You're feeding your brain a bunch of bullshit and nonsense and gossip and negativity. 1.00

02:12:47.000 And how much are we not paying attention to? 1.00

02:12:49.000 Yeah.

02:12:50.000 How much are we not paying attention to?

02:12:51.000 Like I was just saying, when that now becomes, because we can chronicle it and we can see the video of it and it gets on social media, we can be aware of it, there's the positive side of social media.

02:13:01.000 But there's so many of these buddies, like this young lady got up and sang the other day at this event.

02:13:08.000 And, you know, very non-communicative when you just see her on the stage.

02:13:12.000 But once she got on stage, she just blossomed into this other person.

02:13:16.000 So I think that we're hopefully starting to take some recognition to the fact that there's more potential and it should be recognized.

02:13:26.000 Yeah.

02:13:27.000 It's trippy.

02:13:27.000 It is trippy.

02:13:29.000 It's trippy when you see these savants and you wonder, like, what is it about them that makes them so extraordinary?

02:13:38.000 Is this going to be more people like that in the future?

02:13:42.000 Obviously cavemen couldn't do that, but these people could do that.

02:13:45.000 Is there going to be more people like that in the future?

02:13:48.000 Will there be more savants?

02:13:51.000 Where is the human species headed?

02:13:55.000 But then do we have some of these people that we don't call them savants? 0.99

02:13:58.000 But there's some people that have invented some shit and created some stuff and took some recognition, some awareness to... 0.97

02:14:07.000 Bacteria's becoming, you know, Louis Pasteur. 0.98

02:14:09.000 I mean, there's some people that have some higher thinking power that you've taken us down some paths that, you know, it's like the computer and all of that.

02:14:18.000 I mean, I can lose, you can lose yourself in it that somebody was able to, I do it with architecture.

02:14:24.000 When I look at a building and you look at these gigantic skyscrapers.

02:14:29.000 And I'm happy when I can build a woodshed that's square, you know, that everything lines up correctly.

02:14:35.000 But somebody's going to do this out of steel and cement and glass and all this thing.

02:14:40.000 And they just build that and it's perfect.

02:14:42.000 And you just look at that and go, wow, what goes on in their mind?

02:14:46.000 Because I'll make you a really good pasta dish right now.

02:14:49.000 Well, there's a place for everybody in this world.

02:14:51.000 That's the thing.

02:14:52.000 It's like whatever their personality is, the way their mind works.

02:14:55.000 It's suited to architecture.

02:14:56.000 Yours is suited to food.

02:14:57.000 Some suited to music.

02:14:59.000 There's some people that are, you know, comedic geniuses.

02:15:02.000 There's some people that are artistic geniuses.

02:15:04.000 It's like, that's the beautiful thing about life.

02:15:06.000 It's the most difficult thing for young people is to find the correct path.

02:15:11.000 And the worst thing is when you're on the wrong path and you just live a life of suffering and you wish you were doing something else.

02:15:17.000 That's the saddest thing to me is someone who really wants to do something else.

02:15:22.000 I mean, that's the classic song, right?

02:15:24.000 Let's sing us a song, You're the Piano Man.

02:15:27.000 It's fostering.

02:15:28.000 So what I try to do when I speak to young kids or classrooms or schools or whatever I do, I say, quit chasing the dollar.

02:15:37.000 Quit looking at it thinking, I want to make the money.

02:15:40.000 Right.

02:15:41.000 I just say, the first thing I say to them, what makes you happy?

02:15:44.000 Right.

02:15:44.000 What do you enjoy?

02:15:45.000 Because if you enjoy it...

02:15:47.000 It's not a job.

02:15:48.000 If you enjoy it, you'll be able to put so much more time and energy into it without being tired.

02:15:53.000 You know, go be your best self and go find what you love in life.

02:15:58.000 And if you do that, it's going to come.

02:16:01.000 See, the ability to survive, the ability to live and have a house, it will come to you.

02:16:06.000 Now, that's not to say just because you love art means that you're going to be Picasso tomorrow and you're going to do it.

02:16:12.000 You might have to actually go put in some hard work and take an art class.

02:16:16.000 You're going to have to put in some hard work. 1.00

02:16:16.000 You're going to have to do some shit. 1.00

02:16:17.000 But you've got to. 1.00

02:16:18.000 And that's the other thing we're missing.

02:16:19.000 Hard work?

02:16:20.000 Yeah.

02:16:21.000 Let's remember that.

02:16:22.000 Yeah.

02:16:23.000 Anybody who says that there's no such thing as a 9-to-5 job, I work every single day.

02:16:26.000 All the time.

02:16:27.000 I mean, if I'm having fun, if I'm ripping it up, I'm at stage, I'm having fun.

02:16:32.000 But it's always going to be where it's always coming back to taking care of business.

02:16:37.000 But I just think that when people start getting lost with that, one of the things I hope that the nucleus around these kids is that we foster imagination, foster critical thinking, back to what we're saying, and foster them into achieving.

02:16:53.000 Help them write goals.

02:16:55.000 Help them have belief.

02:16:56.000 You know, we can't just set them away.

02:16:59.000 They're getting lost in their phone and believing that they're going to be a TikTok star.

02:17:04.000 Yeah, that's a problem.

02:17:05.000 That's a problem.

02:17:06.000 When you ask kids, like, what do they want to do?

02:17:09.000 A large percentage of them just want to be famous.

02:17:12.000 Because they see these famous people and they see, like, oh, look at that guy's got a Ferrari.

02:17:16.000 Look at that guy's got a big house.

02:17:17.000 Isn't that mind-blowing, though?

02:17:18.000 It's mind-blowing.

02:17:20.000 And it's such a false...

02:17:22.000 Reality.

02:17:23.000 Yeah, but it's also a reality for some people.

02:17:26.000 So it's like what they're looking for.

02:17:27.000 And it's also the thing that they're getting on their phone all day long.

02:17:31.000 They're getting people who are doing it.

02:17:33.000 And you can do it.

02:17:35.000 You know what's a really crazy statistic?

02:17:38.000 10% of girls that are between 18 and I think like 25 are on OnlyFans.

02:17:48.000 What?

02:17:49.000 Yeah, 1 out of 10. Girls are posing on OnlyFans. 1.00

02:17:54.000 And here it gets even crazier.

02:17:58.000 I think it's something like the number of, like, what's the percentage of men that are subscribing to OnlyFans?

02:18:09.000 I think it's 80 million.

02:18:11.000 Watch this.

02:18:12.000 He's going to pull it up in 10 seconds.

02:18:15.000 Can I call him for research, by the way?

02:18:17.000 Sure.

02:18:17.000 I think there's like 160 million men in this country and 80 million of them are on OnlyFans or subscribing to OnlyFans.

02:18:29.000 Yeah.

02:18:30.000 I've seen some of the stats.

02:18:32.000 I think it's literally like 50% of the men of a certain age are subscribing to OnlyFans and 10% of the girls are involved in being models.

02:18:42.000 Let me see what I see.

02:18:43.000 So the number you said about 10% checks out, but it's using stats.

02:18:48.000 It says there's 1.2 million women aged 18 to 24 on OnlyFans and there are approximately 10 million women that age in America.

02:18:58.000 Yeah.

02:19:00.000 10%.

02:19:00.000 10% of the girls are showing their body and doing things on OnlyFans for money.

02:19:06.000 I got 82 million men are reported to subscribe to OnlyFans.

02:19:11.000 It might be overstated.

02:19:14.000 But this also weirdly says that the platform had 1.2 million American women, so that's almost all of them are 18 to 24. And this also says there's 3 million registered creators, so I don't know who the other one point.

02:19:27.000 Probably over 24. Or dudes.

02:19:30.000 Or fakes.

02:19:31.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:19:32.000 There's dudes that do it, too.

02:19:33.000 Yeah.

02:19:34.000 There wouldn't be more dudes than women on there. 1.00

02:19:36.000 Kind of crazy. 0.98

02:19:37.000 Can I take a piss?

02:19:38.000 Yeah, well, let's just wrap this up.

02:19:40.000 No, I don't want to wrap this up.

02:19:42.000 We've got to wrap it up soon.

02:19:43.000 We're doing it two hours and 40 minutes. 0.98

02:19:45.000 I don't fucking want to go anywhere. 0.98

02:19:46.000 This is fucking awesome. 0.96

02:19:47.000 If you would, by the way, I have to. 0.98

02:19:49.000 Congratulations on not drinking.

02:19:51.000 Thank you.

02:19:52.000 I've listened and I applaud you.

02:19:54.000 I think that you read yourself, read your body, read your mind, tell you, you know, I heard you talking about it.

02:19:58.000 I think that, you know, people need to listen to themselves and, you know, see how it makes them feel.

02:20:03.000 I talk about people, what they eat and how it makes them feel.

02:20:06.000 But, no, that's a big...

02:20:09.000 No, I think this is weird.

02:20:11.000 It's like, there's so many other things.

02:20:13.000 I was just going to pick your brain about the dark web because that's another thing that I just sit there and go...

02:20:18.000 What is back...

02:20:19.000 I don't even want to know what's behind that door.

02:20:21.000 You don't want to know.

02:20:21.000 And I don't want to know what's behind that door, and it scares you because I started talking to that tech security people.

02:20:28.000 But it's like this OnlyFans stuff.

02:20:30.000 I mean, I don't even want to know about it.

02:20:31.000 I don't even want to...

02:20:32.000 The darkness of the human soul, it exists always.

02:20:36.000 And for a lot of these girls, it's like they just don't want to have a regular job, and then they get caught up in this OnlyFans thing, and then you make a lot of money. 0.97

02:20:43.000 We talked about living in perpetuity.

02:20:44.000 Yeah, I know.

02:20:46.000 You want to talk about letting that one?

02:20:47.000 Let that one ride for you because people are screen grabbing that stuff and people are recording that stuff.

02:20:52.000 Good luck on that one.

02:20:54.000 I know.

02:20:55.000 And it's just like nobody's telling them that when they're young, they're not getting raised properly, unfortunately.

02:20:59.000 For the little bit of scratch you're getting now and then how that affects you in your life.

02:21:04.000 I don't have the answer for it, but I really think that I was talking about making a contribution to your community.

02:21:14.000 I remember how many parents used to come to the classroom and help in the classroom when I was a kid.

02:21:20.000 I don't know if that still happens.

02:21:21.000 I don't know what goes on.

02:21:22.000 But this mentorship program, I ran into a guy the other day that was a big brother, big brother, big sister program.

02:21:28.000 And it was great to meet him.

02:21:31.000 I'm like, tell me about it, man.

02:21:33.000 You're doing that.

02:21:33.000 I didn't even know the program exists anymore.

02:21:35.000 That's awesome.

02:21:36.000 So there's things like that that I just hope we still remember that we had some really core...

02:21:42.000 Fundamentals doesn't mean our era was right or that we didn't do it without failure.

02:21:46.000 We didn't do it without our issues as we were speaking.

02:21:49.000 But I really hope that we continue to believe in ourselves because we can right the ship, man.

02:21:55.000 Yeah, there's always going to be good in this world and there's always going to be evil.

02:21:58.000 And you've got to kind of like battle it out.

02:22:02.000 That's part of what life is about.

02:22:04.000 And the unfortunate thing is that a lot of that evil is why you appreciate the good.

02:22:10.000 You know, and the good is there to show people that there's another path.

02:22:15.000 Yeah.

02:22:16.000 Well, back to the beginning of, you know, you're not political.

02:22:20.000 I mean, you've got your – but the positivity in the conversation that goes on, John Krasinski during COVID, I did his show.

02:22:30.000 He had this really cool podcast or I don't know what exactly you call the show.

02:22:33.000 Did you see it?

02:22:34.000 It was all the right – it was about – it was a whole pause.

02:22:36.000 Oh, it was a great – it was a great – I can't think of the name of it.

02:22:40.000 It was an acronym.

02:22:41.000 It was like All Positive Stuff or something along those lines.

02:22:44.000 It helped me raise some money.

02:22:45.000 I was raising money for restaurant workers.

02:22:47.000 And we just need more positive noise.

02:22:49.000 We need more positive message.

02:22:51.000 Yeah, and people need to make a decision in their own mind that they want to accentuate the positive aspects of their own life and stop dwelling on the negative and move forward and try to be a positive influence in as many ways as they can.

02:23:05.000 You're doing it, man.

02:23:06.000 You're here.

02:23:07.000 You too, brother.

02:23:08.000 You set an example.

02:23:08.000 Thank you for having me.

02:23:10.000 My pleasure.

02:23:10.000 I've looked forward to this for a really long time.

02:23:12.000 I think that my three boys are getting more of a kick out of this than anybody.

02:23:17.000 Well, hi to them.

02:23:18.000 Yeah.

02:23:19.000 Thanks to you.

02:23:20.000 Appreciate you.

02:23:21.000 Thanks for being here.

02:23:22.000 And thank you for the cigars.

02:23:23.000 It's very nice.

02:23:24.000 Keep it up.

02:23:25.000 Thank you.

02:23:26.000 Tell me whenever I can help.

02:23:28.000 Yes, sir.

02:23:28.000 All right.

02:23:29.000 Thank you.

02:23:29.000 All right.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 16, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2323 - Guy Fieri

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