In this episode of The Geek Buddies, host Alex Blumberg sits down with YouTuber, podcaster, writer, and all-around goofball, Reggie Watts, to talk about his love of The X-Files, aliens, secret bases, and conspiracy theories.
00:01:54.000We're hosting a lot of shows, guys you knew, like when COVID hit, Kill Tony came and worked out of our studio, Jeremiah, Metzger, all the guys.
00:02:03.000Didn't make any money, but it was a cool setup.
00:02:05.000But then they locked down the city, impossibly, and didn't really know what to do.
00:02:11.000Then they set fire to the city, somehow.
00:02:13.000And the wife and I are racing down Hollywood Boulevard being chased by people with bats and boxes of Adidas.
00:02:27.000So I've been working in showbiz, not super successfully like on the cusp, but I've been a professional host, editor, producer, writer for TV.
00:03:04.000let me just talk about the shit I want to talk about.
00:03:06.000So I think I, You know, Admiral Byrd goes down to Antarctica with an armed fleet, supposedly looking for Nazi UFOs, and it's a six-month mission, and in, like, a few days they have to turn back, and it's crazy stuff.
00:03:23.000So I did that story, and I think I got 50,000 views.
00:08:17.000The Antarctica situation is very strange because I don't know if you ever saw the Sean Ryan show where he talked to this guy that worked with a neutrino detector down there.
00:09:18.000So I did an episode on Project Bluebeam, which is a conspiracy about how the United Nations or the shadow government will create these holograms in the sky.
00:09:30.000And that will force one world government.
00:14:27.000Well, I don't know about the exact same thing, but...
00:14:30.000Proposed studies of the implications of peaceful space activities for human affairs commissioned by NASA and created by the Brookings Institute.
00:16:18.000So essentially what he was kind of alluding to is that there's basically like a kind of Manhattan project to try to back engineer these things.
00:16:25.000And whoever figures it out first is going to have a massive advantage.
00:18:19.000Like, I don't read anything about myself, but I'm always, but more so I'm always looking at, But more so, now than ever, my screen time on my phone is dedicated to YouTube.
00:18:32.000It's like, when I come home, especially at the end of the night, come back from the club, I'm tired, I want nonsense.
00:19:24.000I think under heightened states of anxiety and fear, when you're alone in the woods, maybe it's possible that the barrier between dimensions is slippery.
00:19:38.000And you can see things that you would ordinarily never see.
00:19:41.000Like, it might not even be as simple as this is a biological creature that lives here on Earth with us, but no one's ever found a body.
00:19:51.000It might be these are some sort of hominid from somewhere else that can appear.
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00:21:47.000The Grand Canyon, there's been these crazy stories of people finding these like Egyptian – these caverns with like Egyptian artwork and hieroglyphics and these stories of artifacts that have been removed from there.
00:22:21.000So he finds these steps that are clearly man-made.
00:22:24.000He follows the steps up and there's a cave and he goes in there and he describes Hieroglyphics He finds a statue that he describes as like Buddha-like, not Egyptian, not human, but sort of like Buddha, and all these weapons, shields, gold, all sorts of stuff.
00:25:10.000Oh, so it might be just a story that someone printed?
00:25:13.000When I was looking into one of these things before, I found something explaining that back in the early 1900s when newspapers were a really popular thing to read, I don't know if it was a game or if there was actual prizes people would play amongst themselves to try to get fake stories printed.
00:25:29.000If you could get the craziest story printed, you'd win $500.
00:25:33.000I might be wrong, but I think Jordan was connected to the Smithsonian.
00:25:56.000Well, like, there's a law passed not too long ago that if you have Native American artifacts that are important to that culture, especially burial artifacts, they must be returned.
00:30:16.000It's a weird one because when I first saw them, I'm like, what is that?
00:30:21.000And then I saw that these guys were doing them with boards and string.
00:30:24.000I was like, oh, it's just people being silly.
00:30:27.000And then I watched a whole documentary about how the energy that bent these things over caused these nodes to explode as if they had been cooked in a microwave.
00:31:05.000Like people have flown over an area and then flown back an hour or two later, and there's immense football field size Perfect geometry that no one can explain how it was created.
00:32:07.000And you cannot bend the nodes of reeds and weave them together in a perfect...
00:32:13.000So that was, as I'm doing the research, I'm like, alright, 99% of them are fake, but there's this 1% that I cannot explain.
00:32:21.000The famous video where you see the orbs circling around the field in England and then the crop circle slowly starts to emerge, has that been debunked?
00:32:30.000Semi, it's controversial because the guy released that video, I don't know his name offhand, allegedly went to a...
00:33:32.000That while they're like waiting for the circles to happen, just a few miles away, there's a top secret military operation doing whatever they're doing.
00:33:40.000And then he gets a knock on the door from someone, you know, men in black, whoever it is, that first offers him money to stop his work, then threatens him with whatever, threatens his family.
00:35:08.000I think that one is really weird because I think it coincides with the fractal creation of the Mandelbrot set by these people that are into this kind of geometry and fractals.
00:35:30.000And this is before Lorenz and the Lorenza Tractor.
00:37:52.000First of all, if you're on the ground, just the measurements alone to make each one the equal distance between circles in the whatever six different blades that you have that stem from the center.
00:39:00.000And, you know, it always gets connected, like, believing in aliens and everything else.
00:39:04.000But it's not—no one's even saying aliens.
00:39:07.000Like, it could be some sort of energy from something that we possess, something that humans possess, that they somehow or another— Aim at these areas.
00:41:38.000So the artist's angle is a conspiracy angle.
00:41:40.000There's a man named John Lundberg who was part of a group called circlemakers.org, which is an art project and also...
00:41:50.000He would make fake crop circles to see how people would react.
00:41:52.000Years later, Lundberg and some associates created a documentary called Mirage Men, which is an excellent documentary.
00:41:58.000It's mostly about Richard Doty and his disinformation campaign on behalf of the Air Force to discredit the UFO community, drove Paul Benowitz nuts.
00:42:08.000Bill Moore, who's the guy who essentially brought Roswell out to the public.
00:42:14.000Bill Moore was taking payments and being fed information from Doty to muddy the waters in the UFL community.
00:42:19.000He finally came clean in 89, was booed off the stage at MUFON, and everything just unraveled.
00:45:35.000Someone's like, you know, they think it's a landing site.
00:45:38.000Well, it's one of those subjects that if you even entertain it, you're almost immediately a fool, which I'm super comfortable with being a fool.
00:46:02.000And it just doesn't, and when you factor in the nodes, you factor in the weaving, and then these incredible geometric shapes, like, how are you even mapping that?
00:52:05.000But it's hard for me to think that that's solvable.
00:52:09.000But what is interesting is maybe another species evolved alongside of us a long time ago and has been here a long time and said, you know what, let's go.
00:52:17.000This is where we go to avoid cataclysms and geological instability.
00:52:23.000That's a weird one, though, because, like, what kind of technology are you utilizing?
00:52:27.000How did you achieve that level of technological superiority and not completely control man?
00:52:35.000Because if I was an intelligent species that was capable of developing bases under the water, I'd be super concerned at all the different things that human beings are doing to ruin things.
00:52:45.000Like if we had chimps that all of a sudden had flamethrowers and they were lighting the jungle on fire, we'd probably take their flamethrowers.
00:52:51.000So like we would turn off a nuclear reactor.
00:54:20.000It's a fun theory also that if you were creating bases here, like say if they're coming from somewhere else and they want to visit us, it would be far more...
00:54:49.000But when they're here on Earth, they would be undetected.
00:55:15.000And if you have something that's a transmedium vehicle, so it doesn't displace the water, it works on some sort of a warp drive or something.
00:55:25.000I think you have to get into interdimensionality then and all.
00:55:30.000But if you're not displacing air or water, that means you're phasing through matter.
00:57:34.000You have four people that are eyewitness to this thing, and then that there was something actually under the surface of the water, like an aircraft carrier, an enormous thing, that this tic-tac...
00:57:49.000The tic-tac turns towards them, is jamming their signal, is hovering in space, and then shoots off at such an insane rate of speed that most of the things that we have on Earth would just disintegrate and fall apart just from the sheer pressure.
01:00:16.000And then they want to pretend that any archaeologist that presents any kind of information that fucks up the narrative isn't immediately attacked.
01:00:27.000Whether you go back to Clovis first or any of these different archaeologists that have proposed alternative theories of the human timeline.
01:00:35.000All of the conventional archaeologists, all the mainstream people, attacked them.
01:00:41.000Randall Carlson, Robert Schock, John F. West.
01:00:46.000If I were advising Graham, I would have said, don't do that debate.
01:02:57.000See, pull up the Baalbek stones in Lebanon because there's stuff that's above it that is like of a more recent time period, but it seems to have been...
01:03:15.000Like, that's just one of them that was quarried but not moved.
01:03:19.000But the ones that are in place, go to the ones that, like, see, like these ones.
01:03:50.000And then there's like Malta, like that stuff that they think Malta was constructed when the sea levels were much lower, so there was a way to make a path to there.
01:04:02.000From Italy and from these other places because they found Neanderthal bones there.
01:04:37.000The theory of the great flood and then the Younger Dryas impact theory destroyed the atmosphere where there was just like above the earth, which is like chaotic, and they sought refuge underground.
01:04:47.000I lean more toward that the ice sheets melted from a solar event than an impact, but it certainly could be either.
01:04:55.000Well, it could be a combination of things.
01:04:57.000Because it's also, they think there was more than one.
01:08:09.000It's just like when you look at the moon and you see the craters all over it and realize, okay, this is what happens when you don't have an atmosphere and you also don't have water and you can see everything that hits.
01:08:48.000And then by the end of my research, I was convinced that clearly the moon is a hollow spaceship that was brought here from another part of the galaxy.
01:08:56.000And it's here and the lizard people are absorbing our soul energy.
01:11:36.000Don't you think they would be fascinated with us as an emerging civilization?
01:11:40.000And, like, I always say that if we found a planet that had cave people on it, like just starting to learn stone tools and stuff like that, we would for sure be interested in them.
01:13:02.000You know, you and I might want to see those people and help them along, but there's a lot of people that would not want a competitor in the neighborhood.
01:13:17.000Like if they're millions of years advanced?
01:13:20.000Like this is the thing that Diana Pasolka and Gary Nolan and a lot of these people that study crashed retrievals, there's a term that they use that these are donations.
01:13:34.000These vehicles are donations and the idea is we're supposed to look at this and formulate new ideas through reverse engineering.
01:13:41.000And, you know, there's circumstantial evidence that that's true.
01:13:46.000If you look at Bell Labs and all the crazy discoveries after Roswell, like we're using cathode ray tubes and suddenly transistors are made and silicon semiconductors and wireless transmission and Bell Labs is...
01:14:18.000You know, but it, you know, it's, You know, we've got World War II, we go into Korea in 1950, and at the time, Russia had the MiG-15, was basically on par with us.
01:14:34.000I think we had the F-86 at the time, and the MiG might have even been better.
01:14:39.000So that would have been a great time for some advanced tech.
01:14:42.000But America did catch up and exceed the Soviets about 51, 52, you know, during Korea, and then has been superior ever since.
01:14:50.000But you would think that after'47, with the Soviets there, let's get some of this anti-gravitic stuff going.
01:14:58.000Yeah, maybe the problem is that you're working in So because of that, there's no collaboration, which is necessary for real innovation.
01:15:11.000You have to have experts from a bunch of different fields analyzing all the different aspects of it.
01:15:16.000This is what Lazar pointed to the problems that they were having at S4 when they were trying to back-engineer this stuff.
01:15:23.000He's like, you can't do science like this because everything is so top-secret and so compartmentalized.
01:15:27.000The metallurgists were not allowed to talk to the propulsion people.
01:17:01.000And spinning Mercury would cause some type of field, what that would be.
01:17:06.000I'm not a scientist or physicist, I'm not sure, but it would certainly throw off a bunch of ions that could maybe be harnessed or used for something.
01:17:13.000Well, it's like we're trying to explain things to us based on our current understanding of technology.
01:17:21.000Like, glass was invented a long time ago.
01:17:24.000But imagine showing up with a brand new Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra with Gorilla Glass, you know, in a thin frame and looking at it.
01:17:38.000There'd be statues of you for a thousand years.
01:17:40.000Well, you know what glass is and you know what metal is, right?
01:18:57.000Well, if you look at what Doty did in the 70s and 80s with Paul Benowitz, when Benowitz discovered this advanced technology on Kirtland Air Force Base, he called the base and said, hey, I think there's UFOs.
01:19:19.000And Paul gets a little bit wacky, and he starts intercepting signals from outer space, and they're sending him messages, but it turned out it's really the NSA rented a house across the street.
01:20:02.000Just to keep – Guys like you and me, fascinated and trying to figure stuff out while they can just operate their advanced technology in peace.
01:20:10.000Like, let them think it's aliens and UFOs.
01:21:46.000Well, don't you think it's because for the most part it's dismissed and if you engage in it, it's like if you're a normal person, not like you or I, but if you're a person that has like a job in an accounting firm, you're like a very respected, legitimate person.
01:22:01.000Especially like pre-2017, pre the New York Times article.
01:22:05.000And you want to start talking about like gravity propulsion systems that the government's been hiding.
01:22:10.000And there's back engineering programs.
01:22:47.000I can't believe the things you say are news.
01:22:50.000Yeah, well, it's because news is really dead.
01:22:53.000Yes, they're angry about independent media.
01:22:57.000Well, they are, but it's also the news is not...
01:23:03.000And what better way to get clicks than I said something crazy.
01:23:07.000And then it also kind of supports the idea that we need to be gatekeept and someone needs to be able to stop us from spreading misinformation.
01:23:43.000They're saying, we can handle this, but...
01:23:53.000We will have this information and we will know what we're doing and you won't be able to have access to it because you're not ready for it because you're too stupid.
01:24:28.000This is like the ones that they always see, like the Phoenix lights and that one.
01:24:33.000So it says a spacecraft having a triangular hull with vertical electrostatic line charges on each corner that produce a horizontal electric field parallel to the sides of the hull.
01:24:44.000This field interacting with a plane wave emitted by antennas on the side of the hull generates a force per volume combining both lift and propulsion.
01:26:03.000There are lots of claims over the Internet about TR-3B's anti-gravity drive, most of which include using nuclear power to locate highly pressurized mercury to produce plasma and in turn a gravitational field.
01:27:12.000You know, I have a friend that thinks like a lot of the world events that you're seeing, one of the reasons why people support it is because of Epstein, because of the list, because people are compromised, because no one can talk about things, you know, which is like really wild.
01:27:25.000So the government can keep some secrets.
01:27:44.000The idea that there's no way that we could have some sort of advanced propulsion system and that modern physicists would be aware of the state of the art and they would tell you, yeah, no, this is not possible.
01:32:28.000And remember, I know nothing, but that is my opinion, is that it was a PSYOP, and that most of this is.
01:32:34.000If there are visitors, and there are from somewhere else, wouldn't the best way to prepare us is to start flying a bunch of really wacky shit that we have in the air and not explain it?
01:32:47.000That would be a good way to prepare us.
01:32:50.000Comfortable with seeing things hovering over New Jersey that defy what our understanding of drone capabilities are in terms of the time that they can stay in the air.
01:33:01.000Some of them were in the air like for five hours.
01:33:03.000But if that was the reason to get us ready, it backfired because it freaked people out.
01:34:16.000Well, you know, the theories are, you know, we never see alien shit or whatever.
01:34:20.000But there's always a rebuttal is that, you know, they have a metabolism that absorbs nutrients and their waste is recycled and all of that stuff.
01:34:27.000Photosynthesis or something like that.
01:34:36.000I always say that the archetype, like the greys, like Close Encounter greys, if you go back to, like, Neanderthals and then you go back to, like, Australopithecus covered in hair, heavily muscled, and then you go to, like, the average dude who plays Call of Duty.
01:35:53.000Yeah, like they have like an eyelid, a clear eyelid that covers over their eyes so they can like go through sandstorms and not get blinded.
01:36:01.000You know, it's an interesting point that you brought up about Neanderthals is – and a lot of people don't know that just about 50,000 years ago, Neanderthals – For hundreds of thousands of years.
01:37:30.000And when you're dealing with something that's a far superior physical specimen, much denser bones, much stronger than us.
01:37:38.000And we know that we have some of their DNA in us, and when you hear, oh, we interbred with them, that's not precisely how it went down, most likely.
01:37:49.000It's most likely the women were carried away.
01:37:52.000That's how the interbreeding happened.
01:42:08.000Like there was an article that was made in December of 2024 about this other new branch of the human species that had much larger heads than ours.
01:42:17.000And they think it was like this really thick.
01:44:19.000The problem with that was that, and this is Jimmy Corsetti had talked about this long ago, that the issue with them doing this is the roots are going to destroy the artifacts below.
01:44:29.000And they're like, no, no, no, no, it won't.
01:48:29.000But it's also gross that they would prescribe it for children because it was totally unnecessary.
01:48:33.000So the only reason why they would prescribe it for children or mandate it for children to get into schools is because they wanted to make as much money as possible.
01:48:40.000And they made an insane amount of money.
01:49:23.000Yeah, and it's weird that long COVID is something that mostly affects people that have gotten vaccinated, but they want to call it long COVID.
01:49:30.000They don't want to call it vaccine injury.
01:49:32.000The whole thing is like very creepy because it just shows you if something is like very clear and obvious and it's a real disease and we know the origin of it now and we know that all this stuff has been done to obscure it.
01:49:46.000How many other elements of society, how many other stories that are in the news have also been distorted and twisted around in order to promote a very specific narrative?
01:49:56.000And how effective have they been at doing this?
01:49:58.000It's not like this is the only time they've ever done this.
01:50:01.000So COVID was kind of a window into disinformation and about how the government can use these Ploys and manipulation and using these tactics of humiliation, humiliating these established scientists, ruining their careers, attacking their credentials.
01:50:20.000And what other things have they used these on?
01:50:24.000What other geopolitical aspirations have they masked in all this bullshit?
01:50:30.000The whole thing is just – it's very disconcerting to find out that the people – Here's the good news, is the irony of COVID, is the forces that were forcing us to be locked down and stay home gave rise to independent creators and journalists and independent thinkers and folks like you.
01:50:54.000And because of their forcing the lockdowns, they destroyed their own industry.
01:52:22.000That's required medication for foreign service.
01:52:24.000Yeah, so it's one of those things where you wonder after something like that has been happening, well, this seems like a playbook they're really comfortable with using.
01:52:31.000How many other things do they use this on?
01:52:33.000Like, what other aspects of society are just complete horseshit?
01:53:10.000And nobody That's the J.P. Morgans and that whole set.
01:53:15.000So this kind of thinking has been going on forever.
01:53:18.000And then there's also kind of gatekeeping of information, like hiding the truth from people in order to preserve narratives, in order to preserve power and authority.
01:53:52.000Morgan pulls his funding, tells everyone in the investment class, this guy's a kook, and if you invest with him, you don't do business with me.
01:53:59.000A few years later, Wardenclyffe Tower gets torn down.
01:58:25.000And there was a video that George Knapp had from back in the 80s where Lazar was demonstrating how this stuff bends light and what it does.
01:58:45.000Well, synthesized by a particle collider.
01:58:48.000And so when they got it is a very temporary, quickly dissolving form, but they proved its existence.
01:58:58.000And supposedly what Lazar is saying, wherever these beings are from, they obviously have a completely different environment and they have a stable version of this element.
02:00:43.000We do know that there have been some studies done where they were trying to devise diseases that they could aerial spray, whether it's through bugs or something, onto a population, overwhelm their medical system so they'd be easier to defeat.
02:03:24.000What year was A Funny Thing Happen on the Way to the Moon released?
02:03:27.000So it was like shortly thereafter, somehow, I do not even remember how I got connected with him, but we had dinner in Los Angeles at this Italian restaurant.
02:05:22.000It would be with 1969 technology, communicating.
02:05:26.000Like, one of the reasons why Gus Grisham, you know, the big theory is that Gus Grisham was murdered because he wasn't willing to go along with it.
02:06:45.000Like the dog did not survive when they threw Like up there.
02:06:48.000Well, how about Operation Starfish Prime, where they shot a nuke into there to try to blow a hole through it, and it wound up making it more radioactive?
02:09:05.000But it's also, the thing is, like, every other technology from 1969 is cheaper, easier, and faster to reproduce today, except the moon landing.
02:09:25.000You know, if we could 3D print anything, Every time, because you're going to do 10,000 of them.
02:09:40.000Just bring some wire, bring some wire, bring some aluminum, and we can just build this stuff in orbit.
02:09:44.000We don't have to worry about escaping gravity.
02:09:47.000Just build stuff up, 3D print stuff in orbit.
02:09:51.000It sounds a little more complicated than you're making it out to be, but I see what you're saying.
02:09:56.000The film footage, the lost footage that Sabrell had is also very compelling, where it looks like they're filming the moon from, you know, 30,000 miles out.
02:10:07.000But then when they pull the covers off the windows, it shows you they're actually in near-Earth orbit.
02:14:28.000And Stargate, again, Ingo Swann, saw all kinds of stuff on the far side of the moon, which I don't see, I don't hear covered a lot with Ingo, but he remote viewed the moon because he always wanted to do more stuff.
02:14:42.000He's like, I don't want to look at a bridge.
02:18:09.000And that's the only way you're going to survive because eventually your planet is going to move over millions of years further and further away from the sun.
02:18:47.000Not always called the Anunnaki, but the Anunnaki, and then they have their servile species that could be the Nephilim, could be the giants, and then they take these primitive humans, give them just enough intelligence to mine, you know, to mine the gold.
02:19:27.000Like, they weren't the exact right size, but, like, the bigger ones were in the place where the bigger ones would be, the smaller ones in the place where the smaller ones would be.
02:19:49.000Something I don't think doesn't get enough attention is when these ancient cultures are obsessed with equinoxes.
02:19:55.000A lot of people think equinox is when day and night are the same, but that's not what that is.
02:20:00.000When day and night are the same, it's called Equilux, and it's different for everybody on Earth, depending on where you are.
02:20:05.000And equinox is when the sun is over the center of the Earth's equator.
02:20:10.000Well, how did you know there was an equator?
02:20:14.000So Stonehenge is aligned to the equinoxes.
02:20:17.000How did you know there was an equator?
02:20:20.000And how is the pyramid, the sizes are directly divisible to a number like 43200 that could be factored in to calculate the circumference of the earth?
02:20:57.000Well, that would get you to the ancient civilization theory.
02:21:01.000But when you're looking at an ancient civilization that is as complex as Egypt, and then you factor in the Anunnaki story and all these other things, you've got to think, why were the Egyptians so advanced?
02:21:21.000You know, it's one of my favorite episodes because I, you know, you can either watch My Stupid Thing with the Fish or the better thing is to just buy Chris's books and read the science.
02:21:50.000You have a talking fish who talks shit to you the entire time.
02:21:53.000What I'm trying to do is take weird topics, complex topics, break them down, make them accessible to everybody, have a good time, get you thinking on your own.
02:22:50.000And because they released more of it, and the conversation that Graham Hancock and Brian Mirorescu had with them, they were initially skeptical as well.
02:23:51.000Where the Great Pyramid is precise and there's no reasons for these different chambers and the chemical residue, why?
02:24:00.000And why are there copper rods going down into the aquifer, which is exactly the technology Tesla was using at Wardenclyffe Tower, the same exact technology.
02:24:12.000And we've got the zinc sulfide, and it creates hydrogen atoms that go up the gallery.
02:24:17.000And then there's an opening that's exactly the right wavelength for hydrogen to flow through.
02:24:21.000And it resonates at 440 hertz, and it makes an F-sharp chord.
02:24:25.000And you've got the—it's tuned inside the king's chamber to exactly that chord.
02:24:30.000Or, you know, maybe it's just a place for a dead guy.
02:24:34.000You know, why use rose quartz, which is so highly, you know, rose granite is so dense with quartz.
02:24:41.000It's very rare, but it creates a lot of piezoelectricity when you apply pressure to it.
02:24:45.000And hydrogen could do that if you pumped it through the king's chamber.
02:24:49.000It's so fascinating to me that the gatekeepers are so, they're so reluctant to even consider any possibility that it might have been something other than what they've initially asserted.
02:25:03.000It ruins their career and their reputation.
02:25:05.000It's like everything you said was wrong.
02:25:07.000Over time, I have a buddy who just went to Egypt, and he hired these two archaeologists to take them on a tour, and both of them were saying, there is no way the actual mainstream story is accurate.
02:26:23.000But if the pyramid power plant theory is true, then you use limestone as an insulator.
02:26:28.000Inside you've got the granite, which creates this piece of electricity.
02:26:31.000And then you've got this other limestone in between that kind of keeps everything modular So if it was a power plant, what was it powering and how was it doing that?
02:26:46.000So if Tesla wanted to project this energy into the ionosphere, and then everyone could tap into it with some type of receiver, like a radio.
02:26:54.000But there's no evidence I can find of them powering anything.
02:26:58.000So we can make the argument that maybe if the capstone were gold, this energy could resonate through the center of the pyramid, come up through the golden capstone, and then go straight into the ionosphere.
02:27:09.000And we know that the pyramid will resonate at certain frequencies and amplify it.
02:27:12.000That's been tested at about 200 meters is the ideal wavelength.
02:27:16.000But the only other theory is the obelisks at some point were these receivers.
02:27:21.000But there's no evidence that they powered anything.
02:27:24.000But maybe they used the energy for something different.
02:27:28.000If we're looking at the wrong timeline, if we're not really looking at 2,500 BC, if we're looking at 30,000 BC or something even before that, which is also a weird thing that Zahid dismissed.
02:27:39.000He dismissed this idea of the king's list that goes back 30,000 years.
02:28:12.000It's so weird because it's so vast and so spectacular that no matter what you think, no matter what theories you have, you still have to look and go, how the fuck?
02:28:23.000Like, it's so nutty that you can't even imagine people making it.
02:28:28.000Not people as, like, we consider people today.
02:28:30.000Like, if a civilization today, if we, let's say, for some reason, no one had ever visited a part of the Earth, and then they went to a part of the Earth, and they saw people with these structures today, we'd be like, what happened?
02:29:14.000How were people that advanced that long ago?
02:29:17.000You know, I like the acoustic levitation theory is an interesting one where they use sound vibration to lift heavy objects.
02:29:25.000You know, we see that occurring throughout history as part of lore.
02:29:29.000But even in the 1930s, a British, maybe he was an archaeologist, naturalist,
02:29:35.000went to see Buddhist monks and using instruments he watched them levitate heavy objects and there's film of it this is all the legend and when he went back to the UK they see the film but they were using instruments and chanting to levitate these rocks up a cliff face to build whatever they were building well how about that wacky dude in Florida that made the Coral Castle oh yeah that's Edward Lee Scanlon I found it's hard to find but I found him
02:32:16.000And the moon had volcanoes on it at some point.
02:32:19.000Passive seismic experiment size monitors were placed during the Apollo 12 mission, remained active until 1977, recording both natural and human-made moonquake.
02:32:34.000Why are you trying to make moonquakes?
02:32:35.000In fact, moonquakes happen fairly regularly as space debris like asteroids hit the moon more frequently than Earth because the moon's atmosphere is much less dense.
02:32:43.000Right above it, it described that the Apollo 12 mission was the first human-made moonquake.
02:32:47.000They detonated or they crashed the module back on the surface.
02:33:20.000So if the collision theory is true, which is the mainstream theory, then the moon was made mostly out of Earth's mantle, which will be less dense is what.
02:34:13.000And as I'm learning about it, it's like, oh, these guys did some bad, bad stuff.
02:34:17.000And then when you get to Vietnam and, you know, you got the chemical company, Dow Chemical and DuPont and all this creating ancient blue, ancient purple, ancient orange.
02:34:30.000And more American soldiers got sick than actually got killed in the conflict.
02:34:34.000I dedicated the episode to my father-in-law, who had all kinds of injuries from Agent Orange.
02:34:39.000The government denied any responsibility for years.
02:34:42.000They finally agreed to a settlement in 1981.
02:34:45.000He applied for his benefits, and the government made do.
02:37:02.000Also, you don't want to die, you know.
02:37:06.000It's just like they get rid of people.
02:37:08.000If you're in the business of killing people, which is what military contractors are, they are in the business of killing you if you get in the business of killing people.
02:37:17.000They're like, oh, we just have to kill one more person and then we can kill a whole bunch of other people and make a lot of money?
02:37:34.000Frank Olson was part of MKUltra and was starting to have second doubts about it.
02:37:39.000So they sent him to a psychiatrist who he didn't know was actually – worked for Sidney Gottlieb and was into programming and he was freaking out.
02:37:48.000And he's up in a hotel room with someone else from MK.
02:37:52.000He falls out the window, but if you look at the window where he fell, it's like, you know, two feet by two feet.
02:38:27.000So, I mean, it's all real and it's a...
02:38:38.000What is really going on behind the scenes?
02:38:40.000You know, the NBA Ultra, the testimonies from the women is really heartbreaking to watch them.
02:38:46.000You know, the sexual abuse that he endured for years at that, you know, the whatever that was, that lodge on the water near D.C. and just tortured and crazy stuff.
02:38:59.000Operation Midnight Caller, you know that one?
02:40:39.000And there's also justifications that can be made for doing terrible things because there's terrible people out there and you have to stay ahead.
02:44:39.000It seems like they were historical accounts.
02:44:41.000And the thing about Plato's writings about Atlantis, he talks about it having existed 900 years prior, which lines up perfectly with the younger So the story goes back beyond Plato, if you believe Plato, which you can.
02:46:36.000So, you know, when people argue for Bimini, Bimini being Atlantis, it's like, they didn't know what any of that was, but they knew what North Africa was.
02:47:21.000And I was reading Stephen Novella's breakdown of Jimmy's video.
02:47:24.000He says he's leaving out some known facts, like there was a canal that connected each of those circles that isn't apparent in the reshot structure.
02:47:34.000But those are the things I was just getting at right now.
02:48:31.000Combustion engines, all the different things that we've done, electronics.
02:48:35.000We're just assuming that technology always goes in the exact same path.
02:48:40.000Whatever the fuck they were doing, whatever we know they were doing in Egypt was extraordinary in terms of their ability to core the drills.
02:48:48.000When they have these cores, high-speed drills that seem to be, if not diamond-tipped, something of a similar vein that allowed them to dig into that fucking granite like that.
02:49:21.000You know, just the structures that he's uncovering, when you're looking at Gunan Padang, when you're looking at all these different places, when you look at, you know, just Machu Picchu, all these different places.
02:49:43.000Remember when his ancient apocalypse season one came out, there was a British newspaper that said Graham Hancock is the most dangerous man in the world.
02:49:55.000Well, they always want to connect it to white supremacy, which is so crazy because Graham Hancock is the furthest from a white supremacist, you know?
02:51:10.000Who was that British archaeologist that we brought up the other day, Jamie?
02:51:16.000Where he has this, like, really good point that human beings have been in essentially the same form for the last 300,000 years.
02:51:23.000Like, it's not outside the realm of possibility that we have achieved very high levels of sophistication multiple times and have been knocked back down to the Stone Age again.