The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

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00:00:12.000 Oh, hey fella. 1.00

00:00:13.000 What's up?

00:00:15.000 What's going on, man?

00:00:17.000 Good, good.

00:00:17.000 It's good to see you.

00:00:18.000 Good to be back.

00:00:19.000 Yeah, brother.

00:00:20.000 I've had a few interesting days just chilling and relaxing and trying to stay off the news, man.

00:00:27.000 And then this morning someone sent me a...

00:00:35.000 Yeah, that's wild, dude.

00:00:37.000 My favorite is the look into the camera once he realizes I got caught.

00:00:41.000 Yeah, he's like, oh, and it's like, it's very, you could put like the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme song right after that.

00:00:48.000 Imagine what goes on behind closed doors.

00:00:50.000 If someone's bitch slapping you on a private jet, like, what is that? 1.00

00:00:57.000 Yeah.

00:00:57.000 That's a weird relationship, man.

00:00:59.000 Well, she was his teacher.

00:01:01.000 if it was a she.

00:01:02.000 Oh, yeah, there's a whole, like, There's a whole like thing.

00:01:06.000 Bro, Candace Owens did like five hours on it. 1.00

00:01:10.000 That's a little bit crazy.

00:01:12.000 But yeah, she's the wrong dog to go after you. 0.99

00:01:15.000 Right.

00:01:16.000 If you're trying to break into a house, that's the wrong guard dog.

00:01:19.000 Right.

00:01:20.000 She gets on something, she's like a pit bull. 1.00

00:01:22.000 No, she really breaks down.

00:01:24.000 I had a friend once show me her breakdown of like, Because I didn't know Candace talks about that sort of stuff as well.

00:01:31.000 And I was like, oh, this is like a really in-depth breakdown of what's going on with Taylor Swift.

00:01:35.000 That's crazy.

00:01:35.000 Oh, she did the whole Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively thing, and I'm eating popcorn.

00:01:41.000 What?

00:01:42.000 What?

00:01:43.000 No!

00:01:46.000 But the fucking Bridget McCrone one is the craziest. 1.00

00:01:50.000 Because I think she's right.

00:01:52.000 Obviously, I don't know.

00:01:53.000 But at the end of the day, the first thing you have to say is, what kind of a 40-year-old dates a 14-year-old?

00:02:01.000 Right.

00:02:02.000 That's crazy.

00:02:04.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:02:04.000 Even if it's a woman and a man.

00:02:06.000 First of all, Kurt Mesker says it's 14. I think the internet says it's 15. Kurt Mesker goes about it's definitely 14. He was younger than that.

00:02:13.000 Did you see me get cornered by him a lot?

00:02:15.000 Yesterday, we were eating dinner.

00:02:17.000 Bro, he just hit me with, like, seven different conspiracies in a row.

00:02:21.000 I'm like, guys!

00:02:22.000 Guys, I'm getting cornered!

00:02:23.000 It's so hard to follow him.

00:02:27.000 I felt like a woman trapped at, like, an office party and the guy who's hitting on them, like, won't leave him alone.

00:02:33.000 They can't escape.

00:02:34.000 Yeah, have you ever seen that meme of that, like, girl at the party and the guy's just talking at him?

00:02:39.000 It's always, like, you know, something about Flat Earth or something.

00:02:42.000 But yeah, I saw that and I was like, that's crazy that this happened this morning.

00:02:47.000 Crazy.

00:02:48.000 But the facts of the situation, 40 and let's say 15. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt.

00:02:55.000 I have a 15-year-old.

00:02:57.000 They're little kids, essentially.

00:02:59.000 They're like three years away from being an adult.

00:03:02.000 Three whole years!

00:03:04.000 Well, you know what's interesting is that I listen to a lot of true crime, and they'll say that pedophiles and stuff will put themselves in situations where they can abuse.

00:03:14.000 And that's why there's a lot of- Yeah, the Nickelodeon thing.

00:03:18.000 It's like the Jimmy Savile thing in England.

00:03:20.000 That's crazy.

00:03:21.000 The crazy.

00:03:22.000 That's crazy.

00:03:23.000 I was trying to explain to someone this week.

00:03:23.000 The crazy.

00:03:25.000 I was like, imagine if Mr. Rogers was the biggest pedophile that ever existed.

00:03:29.000 But also looked like one.

00:03:31.000 Yeah.

00:03:32.000 That's what's great.

00:03:33.000 Like Mr. Rogers looks like a sweet guy.

00:03:35.000 You know what I mean?

00:03:36.000 Like back in the day, like if a guy like Mr. Rogers was teaching kids, you wouldn't even get creeped out.

00:03:41.000 It's like, oh, he's just a sweet guy.

00:03:42.000 There's sweet people out there.

00:03:43.000 But Jimmy Savile looks like a monster.

00:03:46.000 He looked like a monster.

00:03:47.000 He didn't look like a real person.

00:03:52.000 There was that movie that was based on a book.

00:03:55.000 Oh, my God.

00:03:57.000 Johnny Depp was in it.

00:04:02.000 The guy from How I Met Your Mother was in it.

00:04:05.000 This is not ringing any bells for me.

00:04:06.000 It's a really weird book that's like half fantastic, half realistic, sort of almost Harry Potter-ish.

00:04:14.000 The Secret Window?

00:04:15.000 Okay.

00:04:15.000 That's it.

00:04:16.000 Let me see what it looks like.

00:04:17.000 Based on a Stephen King?

00:04:18.000 No, that's not it.

00:04:19.000 Okay.

00:04:20.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:04:21.000 No, it was like a recent...

00:04:23.000 Is it like almost Harry Potter-ish?

00:04:25.000 Is it Magical Beast?

00:04:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:26.000 That movie?

00:04:27.000 That's it.

00:04:28.000 Oh, that's it.

00:04:28.000 Yeah, it's Magical Beast.

00:04:30.000 He looks like an evil person in Magical Beasts.

00:04:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:32.000 Right.

00:04:33.000 Right.

00:04:33.000 Like a bad wizard.

00:04:35.000 He definitely looks like a bad wizard.

00:04:36.000 doesn't look like a real human.

00:04:37.000 But I wonder, too, if like...

00:04:41.000 Just look at that guy.

00:04:42.000 I think it might be so hard to look past, like...

00:04:53.000 That's a monster.

00:04:55.000 No matter what.

00:04:56.000 That's a monster That's a monster with the glasses.

00:04:59.000 There's something about his eyes Obviously we know too much right right, but look at this shirt open No, no, no, you know like no t-shirt underneath it chest hair Fucking something around his neck.

00:05:12.000 That matches his shirt.

00:05:14.000 I guess a tie just around his neck.

00:05:17.000 He's a creeper.

00:05:18.000 Yeah, but at the time, they were like, oh, he's just a British eccentric guy.

00:05:23.000 We British are known for our weird people.

00:05:25.000 God.

00:05:27.000 50 years.

00:05:28.000 Just.

00:05:29.000 God.

00:05:30.000 And died, and no one ever caught him.

00:05:32.000 No one ever caught him.

00:05:33.000 BBC covered it up.

00:05:35.000 Crazy.

00:05:36.000 Just let him get away.

00:05:38.000 Used to hang out at the hospitals that he would.

00:05:41.000 Well, that's the Sandusky thing, too.

00:05:44.000 Sandusky thing, same thing.

00:05:45.000 Everybody knew about it.

00:05:46.000 Oh, dude.

00:05:47.000 Everyone knew about it, but they were winning.

00:05:49.000 So we're like, dude, we win championships.

00:05:52.000 That's the devil.

00:05:53.000 If the devil's a real thing, that's where the devil lives.

00:05:56.000 It's very funny to me, at least, that they exposed Sandusky after they went 7-6.

00:06:01.000 They were winning for so long, and then they were like, 7-6, uh-uh.

00:06:06.000 Is that really what happened?

00:06:08.000 It was the same.

00:06:08.000 They had a horrible year.

00:06:10.000 Next year, Sandusky, the Sandusky thing came out.

00:06:12.000 They needed to make changes.

00:06:14.000 He wasn't doing his job.

00:06:16.000 I think he had already retired at that point, too.

00:06:17.000 Just crazy.

00:06:18.000 That's when it's over, because you're not valuable anymore.

00:06:22.000 You've got to Biden that motherfucker. 1.00

00:06:24.000 You've got to Pelosi that motherfucker right into the rocks.

00:06:28.000 You know, like Dianne Feinstein?

00:06:30.000 In a wheelchair.

00:06:31.000 Being told by her operatives who to vote for.

00:06:34.000 Right.

00:06:35.000 That's what you got to do if you're a synthetic fan.

00:06:38.000 Because if you get out, then they start investigating you.

00:06:40.000 Like, whoa!

00:06:42.000 Stay active.

00:06:44.000 Yeah, you got to keep achieving.

00:06:46.000 You got to keep the con alive.

00:06:48.000 Keep these people fed because they will feed you to the wolves.

00:06:51.000 Right?

00:06:52.000 If you're a corrupt politician, you got to stay in office.

00:06:55.000 You can't retire.

00:06:57.000 If you retire, you're open game.

00:06:59.000 Are you on a podcast?

00:07:02.000 Talking shit?

00:07:02.000 Retired?

00:07:03.000 Let's get them! 0.91

00:07:05.000 They start auditing you and everyone's got some fucking shady shit.

00:07:10.000 They made way too much money!

00:07:12.000 There's no way!

00:07:14.000 There's no way it's not shady when you're worth 200 million and you make 170 grand a year.

00:07:20.000 That's crazy!

00:07:22.000 And then you have to stay.

00:07:23.000 You have to.

00:07:25.000 You gotta ride it into the rocks.

00:07:26.000 Also, there's something about that power that you don't want to give up on.

00:07:29.000 100%.

00:07:29.000 Yeah.

00:07:29.000 100%.

00:07:30.000 Some like weird Darth...

00:07:33.000 They all look like Emperor Palpatine.

00:07:35.000 Every politician looks like Emperor Palpatine when they're old.

00:07:38.000 It's crazy.

00:07:39.000 Male or female.

00:07:41.000 The weight of it all weighing on you.

00:07:44.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:07:45.000 You have to know that you're like, man, at a certain point, I'm fucking over so many people.

00:07:49.000 It's gotta weigh on your soul.

00:07:51.000 Hopefully.

00:07:52.000 Bro, you age.

00:07:55.000 I think the best people age the hardest.

00:07:58.000 I think Obama was probably a very idealistic young man who really wanted to change the world.

00:08:07.000 And that dude aged more than anybody.

00:08:09.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:10.000 Yeah, oh yeah.

00:08:11.000 Who aged the least?

00:08:12.000 Trump.

00:08:13.000 Trump.

00:08:13.000 Trump just fucking threw his breast head shit off his shoulders like it was nothing.

00:08:18.000 This is something that Derek said to me in like 2018 once we were talking about.

00:08:20.000 He's like, I don't know, because he's not a big politics guy, but he's like, I don't know if I trust Trump.

00:08:24.000 His hair's not getting gray.

00:08:25.000 What kind of politician doesn't get gray hairs? 1.00

00:08:29.000 Well, the hair itself, he makes fun of his own hair.

00:08:32.000 He was on stage talking about his comb over.

00:08:35.000 Yeah, he's funny.

00:08:36.000 He does stand-up.

00:08:37.000 He's doing stand-up.

00:08:39.000 Regardless of what you think about him, foreign policy, economics, regardless, the guy is doing stand-up.

00:08:44.000 He can work a room.

00:08:45.000 Well, that's why none of them can fuck with him, because he can go on a podcast easy.

00:08:50.000 Because he does these stadiums where he just goes out and starts talking shit.

00:08:54.000 He does Biden impressions.

00:08:56.000 He does Biden water around the room when he doesn't know where he is.

00:09:00.000 He's funny, man.

00:09:01.000 Okay, and the problem is he does it all the time, so he's got an act.

00:09:05.000 He's basically like a comic, like in a lot of ways.

00:09:09.000 That's the problem.

00:09:11.000 It's like these other people, they have canned speeches that are written by a bunch of people that have this really well-worded explanation of what's wrong with the world, what's wrong with the country, and what they're going to do, but it's not them.

00:09:25.000 It's not them.

00:09:27.000 That's why they all fall apart when they're talking and, you know, they just don't have any idea what the question's gonna be.

00:09:33.000 That's why they had to be protected.

00:09:36.000 All of them have to be protected from themselves.

00:09:38.000 Right.

00:09:39.000 Because when confronted by like some basic facts about the fucking corruption of the world, they don't know what to say.

00:09:45.000 And they crumble.

00:09:47.000 And Trump just starts talking shit.

00:09:49.000 He just starts talking to people.

00:09:50.000 They're all corrupt!

00:09:52.000 He just starts going into it and talking about Crooked Hillary and this and that, and they said this and they said that.

00:09:58.000 Yeah, it's just him saying what's on his mind, regardless of whether or not, you know, people like fact check him or whatever.

00:10:04.000 I think people are just used to that now.

00:10:06.000 Like, that's how they consume media now is like, I need the real person to talk to me.

00:10:11.000 Yes.

00:10:12.000 It's also like, they're like, oh, he's a crazy person.

00:10:14.000 Like, yeah.

00:10:16.000 That's the only kind of person that would survive what you try to do to him.

00:10:20.000 Right.

00:10:20.000 That's the only kind of guy that gets through.

00:10:23.000 Like, you want a perfect person?

00:10:24.000 A perfect person morally falls apart by the time they've been indicted and they've 34 counts, felony counts.

00:10:32.000 Like, your whole body is just destroyed by the stress of you possibly going to jail for the rest of your life.

00:10:37.000 You have to be a fucking insane person to ride that out and not look like anything even happened.

00:10:42.000 Then you get shot.

00:10:44.000 Yeah.

00:10:44.000 You get up after you got shot.

00:10:46.000 You're fucking bleeding from your ear and you go fight, fight.

00:10:50.000 You gotta be a crazy person to get through.

00:10:52.000 He's a nightmare for anybody that's trying to rig a system.

00:10:56.000 Like, that guy's the nightmare.

00:10:58.000 He's the final boss of fuck you.

00:11:01.000 You know?

00:11:02.000 Yeah.

00:11:02.000 And also, to want, like, a good guy to be your president is kind of crazy.

00:11:06.000 Like, a good guy is your neighbor.

00:11:09.000 Well, it would be nice if we could get a good guy to be president.

00:11:12.000 I don't think they would want that job.

00:11:14.000 No, they wouldn't want that job.

00:11:15.000 No, they wouldn't want that job.

00:11:16.000 There's no way.

00:11:17.000 That's an awful job.

00:11:18.000 I don't think he's a bad guy.

00:11:20.000 I think he's like a lot of people that just want success.

00:11:27.000 They want a certain kind of success and also they want a certain kind of success publicly.

00:11:33.000 They want everybody to know that they're successful.

00:11:35.000 That's a hyper-competitive person that's locked into a very specific kind of game.

00:11:42.000 It's the game of look at all the shit I got.

00:11:45.000 Look at all the power I have.

00:11:46.000 Look at all the shit I got.

00:11:47.000 And they're all playing that game.

00:11:49.000 They're just playing that game sneaky.

00:11:51.000 They're playing that game talking about the importance of addressing climate change and all sorts of weird shit.

00:11:59.000 But they're all playing the same goddamn game.

00:12:03.000 They're in a legacy game.

00:12:03.000 They want to see how long can my name last post me dying.

00:12:07.000 That's the type of person.

00:12:09.000 Bro, it's what happens with cults.

00:12:11.000 It's what happens with everything.

00:12:13.000 There's always one maniacal person.

00:12:17.000 That just wants to control everything.

00:12:21.000 Everything.

00:12:22.000 That's why CEOs backstab each other and try to get each other removed.

00:12:27.000 And you hear about that, like internal coups at companies.

00:12:30.000 Everybody's always like, fuck you.

00:12:31.000 I'm the man.

00:12:32.000 How could he be the man when I'm the man?

00:12:34.000 And they just want to fucking ruin each other, man.

00:12:37.000 Yeah, I feel like that's why Dick Cheney was so effective.

00:12:39.000 He's like, I'll just be number two.

00:12:41.000 Bro, he was straight Satan.

00:12:43.000 He was in the Bible.

00:12:45.000 That guy was in the Bible.

00:12:46.000 He didn't have a pulse.

00:12:47.000 At one point in time, no legitimately.

00:12:50.000 Oh yeah.

00:12:51.000 An artificial heart, no pulse, and responsible for Oh, countless.

00:12:57.000 Who knows?

00:12:58.000 A whole 20-year war that we had no business being in.

00:13:01.000 Not only that, you want to talk about, like, transparent.

00:13:03.000 This was all transparent before the internet.

00:13:06.000 But imagine, it was kind of the internet was around, right?

00:13:09.000 But not the same.

00:13:10.000 The internet in 2001, there was no social media.

00:13:13.000 It was a different kind of internet.

00:13:15.000 This guy, his former company was getting no-bid contracts for billions of dollars to fix shit that we blew up in a war that was his idea.

00:13:26.000 That's a pretty, from the outside point of view, if you have the power to make money that way, what a genius, evil thing to do.

00:13:32.000 So profitable.

00:13:33.000 I know.

00:13:34.000 Just billions of dollars.

00:13:36.000 Enough that he didn't need a heart anymore.

00:13:38.000 What do you, like, how do you combat that?

00:13:41.000 With the idea also in place that capitalism is way better than communism, which I think we all agree.

00:13:48.000 How do you combat that?

00:13:50.000 I think I'm maybe a little more cynical than most people because the way I look at it now is like, I don't think you can.

00:13:57.000 Because I think whatever system that you end up putting in place, regardless, there are the haves and the have-nots.

00:14:03.000 So it's like, maybe we can combat this and we can curb maybe corruption in this manner, but corruption will always find a way.

00:14:10.000 Right, but is there a way to minimize it?

00:14:12.000 Is there a way to make it less available?

00:14:15.000 Like, it seems like...

00:14:18.000 Without violence?

00:14:19.000 I've never been a congressman.

00:14:21.000 I'm just guessing.

00:14:21.000 But my friend, Tulsi, was a congresswoman for eight years.

00:14:24.000 Right.

00:14:25.000 And her experiences, like in there, they're quite disturbing because without speaking at a turn, Right.

00:14:42.000 Because a lot of these people, they go in with good intentions, and then they encounter a system that is just rigged with grifters.

00:14:51.000 Like the whole system, you're in a grifting system.

00:14:54.000 You're like, oh, Jesus Christ.

00:14:56.000 So it's all about lobbyists and it's all about money and then people start hedging their decisions of what they're going to talk about or discuss or be against because they're going to run for re-election, which they're always doing.

00:15:07.000 They're always in a constant cycle of generating more donor money and running for re-election and making everybody happy.

00:15:14.000 I think you, at least for like, you see that with like AOC, someone who, you know, when she was coming up, it was like a whole anti-system sort of Democrat.

00:15:26.000 2020 endorses Biden.

00:15:27.000 So it's like, eventually they get you to play ball.

00:15:30.000 Well, it's like, who would she endorse if she didn't endorse Biden?

00:15:33.000 This is the argument that Bernie Sanders made on flagrant.

00:15:36.000 He was essentially saying to Akash and Andrew, he was saying, my choice was either help Donald Trump or support the Democratic Party, even though they fucked him over.

00:15:51.000 And so his choice, he made the choice to support Hillary.

00:15:55.000 Well, I mean, I get it from Bernie's perspective, but in my mind, if I'm like, and this is me not knowing anything about how Congress works, but it's like, if I'm supposed to be the next young, like, the change of the Democratic Party, I think the power move is to not endorse anybody there.

00:16:11.000 If I'm in, like, an AOC position.

00:16:13.000 I think the system is a little more locked down than we'd like to think.

00:16:17.000 Right, right.

00:16:18.000 Well, clearly it is, right?

00:16:20.000 Because here's a good example.

00:16:21.000 They were going to release the Epstein files day one.

00:16:24.000 Right?

00:16:25.000 Okay, what happened?

00:16:26.000 What happened?

00:16:27.000 What happened?

00:16:28.000 If that's what you wanted to do before you got the job and then you got the job and day one you couldn't do it.

00:16:32.000 Okay, so what are we saying?

00:16:34.000 Are we saying that this is more complicated?

00:16:36.000 It's probably a lot more complicated.

00:16:38.000 There's probably a web.

00:16:39.000 And then there's also people for decades and decades been developing relationships and working inside these fucking...

00:16:49.000 That's our real government.

00:16:50.000 That's our real government.

00:16:51.000 These people realize that once they get into Congress, they realize that when they become a senator, they realize that.

00:16:57.000 Like, okay, this is not the real government.

00:17:00.000 And if you fuck with the real government, they'll take your ass out.

00:17:03.000 Yeah, they'll shoot you.

00:17:04.000 Or they'll try.

00:17:05.000 They did everything to Trump.

00:17:06.000 They did everything.

00:17:07.000 They did indictments.

00:17:08.000 They did public shame.

00:17:09.000 They took shots at him.

00:17:11.000 But also, with the Epstein thing, it's probably just way too many people are on that list for a government to be even any sort of functional.

00:17:20.000 Look at the two of them.

00:17:22.000 That's a hostage video, dog.

00:17:23.000 Dude, he looks so scared to be there right now.

00:17:26.000 That's a hostage video.

00:17:28.000 That's Cash right now being like, don't say the wrong name or I'm dead.

00:17:31.000 Yeah, that's a hostage video, son.

00:17:34.000 Yeah, there's no winning in that.

00:17:36.000 Because it's like, Epstein is across the aisle.

00:17:39.000 That's everybody.

00:17:40.000 The thing about them saying that I've seen the file, he definitely killed himself.

00:17:45.000 Well, what could be in the file?

00:17:47.000 Let's strongman this.

00:17:48.000 What could be in the file that would convince you?

00:17:54.000 That, the autopsy that was done independently by Dr. Michael Badden, who's that famous HBO autopsy guy.

00:18:00.000 Do you know that guy?

00:18:01.000 No.

00:18:01.000 You ever see that show, HBO's Autopsy?

00:18:03.000 No, I've never seen that.

00:18:04.000 Great show.

00:18:05.000 From a while back.

00:18:06.000 But the show was all about how they caught murderers who did a lot of crazy shit.

00:18:12.000 And just insane things that some people did.

00:18:16.000 one guy, his wife died and he kept her body in his house and he kept buying like Bro.

00:18:38.000 Yeah, what a guy.

00:18:40.000 Bro.

00:18:41.000 So this guy, anyway, he's got a famous show that was on HBO that was on for a long time, like many seasons.

00:18:48.000 All these insane murder cases, like how they caught these people.

00:18:52.000 So he's like an expert at detecting the difference between accidental death, murder.

00:18:58.000 And he looked at the autopsy.

00:19:01.000 He looked at what had happened to Epstein's body.

00:19:04.000 He said, this is indicative of someone being strangled to death.

00:19:07.000 These kind of breaks in the bones on the neck.

00:19:09.000 This is not what happens when you hang yourself.

00:19:12.000 And he was like, the mark is also in the wrong place.

00:19:15.000 It's low on the neck.

00:19:16.000 Whereas if someone strangles themselves, the weight of their body, which is what's killing them, it all goes up to the top of your chin.

00:19:23.000 He's like, none of these injuries.

00:19:26.000 Or injuries that are consistent with someone who was strangled.

00:19:30.000 So what could be if they don't have a video?

00:19:32.000 So if they say the cameras were down, okay, so there's no video.

00:19:35.000 All right, so what do you have that makes you think that he 100% committed suicide?

00:19:41.000 And how do you let the guy who is in one of the most high-profile cases of sex trafficking in history, how do you let that guy just not be watched?

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00:20:48.000 Why is Ghislaine still alive?

00:20:52.000 If Epstein knows all these things, there's no way Ghislaine doesn't know them as well.

00:20:57.000 She's, like, there.

00:20:58.000 She's there the whole time.

00:20:59.000 I feel like she knows everything that he knows.

00:21:01.000 Well, she's in jail where they get to do yoga. 1.00

00:21:03.000 Yeah, so she got a sweet deal.

00:21:06.000 Well, she is alive, though, which is kind of crazy.

00:21:09.000 Like, you gotta wonder, like, if they killed him because they couldn't trust him.

00:21:14.000 Allegedly.

00:21:14.000 Right.

00:21:14.000 Let's just say.

00:21:15.000 Let's just say allegedly.

00:21:19.000 the benefit of the doubt.

00:21:20.000 So maybe there's something in that file that shows that he...

00:21:25.000 What could be in the file that would convince you?

00:21:27.000 I mean, it would have to be active.

00:21:30.000 It would have to be active politicians, presidents, billionaires.

00:21:36.000 It's got to be that level of...

00:21:42.000 Did you ever see what Epstein's cellmate looked like?

00:21:44.000 No.

00:21:45.000 Bro.

00:21:46.000 Ready for this?

00:21:47.000 His cellmate is this giant Italian guy who was a cop, who was a dirty cop, and I think was in there for murder. 0.89

00:21:58.000 I think it was like a bad drug deal or some shit.

00:22:01.000 Let's find the details in this.

00:22:02.000 But when you see what this guy looked like, you're like, are you fucking kidding me?

00:22:07.000 He looks like The Rock.

00:22:09.000 Right.

00:22:10.000 Guy's giant.

00:22:11.000 And this is the cellmate.

00:22:15.000 You put a murderer in with the guy who's the most high-profile witness and defendant in history, dealing with a sex slave operation for elites, and you left him in there with a giant murderer?

00:22:32.000 Right.

00:22:32.000 There should be a guard around him at all times.

00:22:34.000 But yeah, they knew they were going to liquidate him almost immediately.

00:22:37.000 an image of him, Jamie?

00:22:38.000 I was digging through details of what he did that I didn't remember Yeah.

00:22:43.000 He had four life sentences.

00:22:45.000 Jesus Christ.

00:22:46.000 Wait, but let's show the picture of him.

00:22:48.000 The picture's insane.

00:22:49.000 When you see what he looks like, you're like, this guy looks like a heavyweight MMA fighter.

00:22:53.000 Right, they were just waiting for him to die.

00:22:55.000 Bro, he literally looks like a gorilla.

00:22:57.000 Far-right picture.

00:22:57.000 Look at him.

00:22:58.000 That one, yeah.

00:22:59.000 Look at the size of this guy.

00:23:02.000 Imagine, oh, someone got strangled to death and this guy's the cellmate.

00:23:06.000 Nothing to see here, folks.

00:23:08.000 Look at the size of the fucking guy.

00:23:10.000 Ex-Westchester cop gets four life terms in prison for quadruple homicide.

00:23:14.000 So he's already in jail for four life sentences.

00:23:17.000 All you have to do is give him tuna fish.

00:23:19.000 You get tuna from the commissary.

00:23:20.000 Just kill this guy.

00:23:21.000 Yeah.

00:23:21.000 Like, what are you gonna get?

00:23:22.000 We're gonna get you hookers every month. 1.00

00:23:24.000 Bring in a hooker. 1.00

00:23:25.000 What are you gonna get?

00:23:26.000 Damn.

00:23:27.000 I mean, I'm not saying that that happens, but I'm saying if a guy is in jail for four life sentences, that would be a good guy to hire.

00:23:35.000 One of them is strangling someone to death with a zip tie.

00:23:37.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:23:37.000 He's good at it.

00:23:38.000 He's good at it.

00:23:39.000 Jesus Christ, he strangled someone to death with a zip tie.

00:23:42.000 He tortured him.

00:23:43.000 What is his name?

00:23:44.000 Martin Luna?

00:23:45.000 Tartaglione.

00:23:47.000 Tartaglione.

00:23:47.000 He's like a character in a bad novel.

00:23:50.000 He's a strongman that, though.

00:23:51.000 He wasn't technically his cellmate at the time of the death.

00:23:53.000 He was moved.

00:23:54.000 Hey, they moved me.

00:23:56.000 Don't worry about it.

00:23:57.000 I wasn't even there, bro.

00:23:59.000 I wasn't even there.

00:24:00.000 I was just two cells down.

00:24:03.000 And my door was locked, for sure.

00:24:05.000 I mean, you can't tell because the video's gone, but I'm stuck there.

00:24:08.000 If they have video, I mean, please show it so I can prove my innocence.

00:24:13.000 You know, meanwhile, now he's got fucking sandwiches.

00:24:16.000 Jimmy John's gets delivered to prison.

00:24:20.000 He's eating great.

00:24:22.000 Extra yard time.

00:24:23.000 He's got a fucking laptop in his room.

00:24:25.000 What's going on?

00:24:27.000 You know, you remember in Goodfellas where they had like their own special prison?

00:24:30.000 Apparently that was real.

00:24:32.000 They used to really have it set up like that.

00:24:34.000 That makes sense.

00:24:34.000 Where like mob guys would pay people off.

00:24:36.000 So when they went to prison, they had like a big prison cell and they would cook in there and they would do a bunch of shit.

00:24:40.000 Like for real.

00:24:41.000 They just had to stay there and hang out with each other.

00:24:43.000 Yeah, dude.

00:24:44.000 It's so great.

00:24:45.000 Corruption is always corruption, huh?

00:24:46.000 Corruption is always corruption, man.

00:24:48.000 There's no way around it.

00:24:50.000 It's just a part of our reality.

00:24:52.000 It's always corruption.

00:24:53.000 I was reading about this famous Mexican singer who was supposed to be playing in Dallas.

00:25:00.000 He had a 50,000-seat place.

00:25:04.000 He was doing the place where, like, the Cowboys play.

00:25:07.000 And they canceled his visa.

00:25:10.000 Really?

00:25:11.000 Yeah, because he sings those Narcos songs.

00:25:14.000 Mmm.

00:25:15.000 Yeah.

00:25:16.000 Which are apparently, like, it's gangsta rap.

00:25:21.000 Right.

00:25:21.000 It's the Mexican version of Gangsta Rap.

00:25:23.000 Yes.

00:25:24.000 But Gangsta Rap is fine.

00:25:26.000 Yeah, yeah, it's like Weird, right?

00:25:31.000 Yeah.

00:25:31.000 A little weird.

00:25:32.000 That's truly the reason?

00:25:33.000 Just because he sang the Narcos song?

00:25:34.000 Well, he did, and he had an image of one of the guys at his concert while he was singing the song.

00:25:39.000 There was an image of one of the head guys.

00:25:43.000 Yeah, well, I think to sing one of those Narcos songs, you need to get it approved by the guy.

00:25:48.000 Yeah.

00:25:48.000 So it's part of the whole thing.

00:25:50.000 Yeah, so he had an image of the guy in homage to him while he sang this song.

00:25:57.000 He might have been a different guy.

00:25:59.000 What do you mean?

00:25:59.000 Similar situation, a singer in a different band had the problem looking at the article now.

00:26:03.000 I thought it said him.

00:26:05.000 It's saying this Alvarez is the guy that you're talking about for Dallas, and then it said earlier this year, Feast is revoked for this band.

00:26:12.000 So why did Alvarez?

00:26:13.000 But didn't Alvarez also have something similar?

00:26:16.000 I'm just saying.

00:26:18.000 Does anything else say in the article?

00:26:19.000 Which article is this from USA Today?

00:26:22.000 Yeah, is there anything that says why Alvarez was denied?

00:26:26.000 Okay, so maybe I got it wrong.

00:26:27.000 So it's another guy did that, and so was he denied as well?

00:26:30.000 Yeah, yeah, but the article is saying multiple people have the singers from these types of bands.

00:26:36.000 Oh, I see, I see, I see.

00:26:37.000 So they're revoking a lot of these visas recently, now that Trump's in place.

00:26:43.000 It is kind of crazy.

00:26:44.000 Yeah, he's just...

00:26:45.000 At the same time, it is just...

00:26:48.000 I know.

00:26:48.000 It is just songs.

00:26:50.000 But I guess the idea is that it's songs celebrating the cartel culture.

00:26:55.000 I'm like...

00:27:00.000 Right.

00:27:00.000 And it's like, cartel culture is like a real thing.

00:27:03.000 And like...

00:27:07.000 People live those lives.

00:27:08.000 The art should be out there.

00:27:10.000 Also, it's a real thing because we have stupid drug laws. 0.94

00:27:13.000 Oh my god.

00:27:15.000 That's the reality.

00:27:17.000 Anti-marijuana at THC is on the governor's desk today.

00:27:19.000 Oh boy.

00:27:20.000 I know.

00:27:21.000 It's like, and it's like, it's so funny that it's like, you want to be seen as like tough on the border and like tough on immigration and yet you hand the cartels a big win by It's crazy.

00:27:34.000 From what I heard, there's an issue that one of the issues in any time, any time there's like, especially with marijuana laws, it's the prison lobby.

00:27:44.000 Prison lobbies have a say.

00:27:45.000 Like, prison lobbies are very powerful.

00:27:47.000 They're very big, and they don't want to cut back on business.

00:27:50.000 No.

00:27:50.000 It's the devil again.

00:27:51.000 It's the devil again.

00:27:52.000 Same with alcohol companies.

00:27:53.000 Yeah.

00:27:54.000 And big pharma.

00:27:55.000 Yeah, alcohol companies for sure.

00:27:56.000 They don't want to, like, lose alcohol.

00:27:58.000 But I don't think they would.

00:28:00.000 Maybe they've done studies.

00:28:01.000 I think they already know alcohol cells are down wherever weeds are.

00:28:04.000 Interesting.

00:28:05.000 It's not like no one's drinking, obviously, but they're down.

00:28:08.000 And it's a big pharma thing too, where it's like they, if people self-medicate their anxiety with weed, which is what a lot of people do, then they're not going to...

00:28:18.000 Well, that's a slippery slope, isn't it?

00:28:20.000 Self-medicating your anxiety with weed.

00:28:22.000 Yeah.

00:28:24.000 I'm not saying that's a good thing.

00:28:27.000 I'm just saying that's what happens.

00:28:29.000 Well, people drink for depression.

00:28:31.000 Same thing.

00:28:32.000 It's like, that's a terrible strategy.

00:28:34.000 It's a terrible strategy, but the option should be there for you.

00:28:36.000 The government shouldn't say, the government shouldn't be like, no, you should get your self-meditated.

00:28:43.000 Let the big pharma have their medication.

00:28:44.000 If we're going to apply this kind of control, it should be to food.

00:28:48.000 We shouldn't be able to drink Coca-Cola anymore then.

00:28:50.000 Then we shouldn't be able to eat french fries.

00:28:52.000 What are we doing?

00:28:53.000 Why are you telling people, especially you who doesn't have experience with these things, telling people that they can't do it?

00:29:00.000 It's a stupid thing to do.

00:29:02.000 It's stupid because all it does is empower illegal organizations.

00:29:08.000 But if at the same time it empowers Prisons, that's a problem.

00:29:12.000 Like, we make money too.

00:29:13.000 We get our cut.

00:29:14.000 Right.

00:29:15.000 You know, our cut is we get to lock people up and use them as human batteries to generate money for a private prison system.

00:29:21.000 Yeah, and it must be a lot of money for the, So it's like, it must make a lot of money because it's like an $8 billion industry in Texas that they're just throwing away in September.

00:29:34.000 So there's got to be...

00:29:38.000 Well, I mean, it might not just be that.

00:29:40.000 It might be, you know, we're saying private prisons, but we're just guessing.

00:29:43.000 There might be a bunch of different factors in place, a bunch of different things.

00:29:47.000 But at the end of the day, it's stupid because these kind of drug laws, all they do is empower the cartels.

00:29:54.000 And that's not what we want, right?

00:29:56.000 We don't want to empower organized crime.

00:29:59.000 This is how the mafia rose to prominence in the United States during Prohibition.

00:30:04.000 That was Al Capone.

00:30:05.000 He made his money moonshining.

00:30:07.000 Right.

00:30:07.000 And then to turn around and be like, well, he can't sing about the cartel life, but we'll invite them in is like such a crazy...

00:30:19.000 The Godfather is one of the greatest movies of all time.

00:30:21.000 It's a movie about the mob.

00:30:24.000 Sopranos, one of the greatest TV shows of all time, celebrated by everybody, wins awards.

00:30:28.000 It was about the mob.

00:30:30.000 It was sympathetic.

00:30:31.000 The main mob character in the show was a murderer.

00:30:35.000 Yeah, and he's one of my favorite characters of all time.

00:30:37.000 I love him.

00:30:37.000 Tony Soprano's incredible.

00:30:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:40.000 How come that's okay?

00:30:41.000 Right.

00:30:42.000 Right?

00:30:42.000 Right, right.

00:30:43.000 It's weird.

00:30:44.000 Like, what are we doing?

00:30:45.000 Is it because the Mafia is not a real threat anymore?

00:30:47.000 They think they've kind of taken the teeth out of the Mafia?

00:30:50.000 Yeah, I mean, towards the end, you see it towards the end of the series as well, them talking about how, like, the Mafia can't really shake down local stores anymore because they don't exist and all that.

00:30:57.000 Right.

00:30:58.000 They're probably a little, they're definitely less afraid of the Mafia even in the late 90s.

00:31:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:31:02.000 Well, Giuliani cleaned it up.

00:31:04.000 Right.

00:31:05.000 And the whole government really went after them during the John Gotti days.

00:31:10.000 Like, John Gotti was like the last big public mob boss.

00:31:15.000 You know, where everybody knew who the mob boss was.

00:31:18.000 Like, and you would walk around with these, like, super expensive suits on.

00:31:21.000 It was crazy to watch, man.

00:31:23.000 Right.

00:31:24.000 Because you were essentially watching, like, our equivalent to a cartel member.

00:31:29.000 That it was just like existing as a major celebrity in society where his name was making it onto rap songs.

00:31:36.000 Right.

00:31:36.000 Well, what's that?

00:31:37.000 Oh, my God.

00:31:38.000 What's the guy who escaped the Mexican prison?

00:31:40.000 The cartel guy?

00:31:41.000 El Chapo.

00:31:41.000 Yeah, El Chapo.

00:31:42.000 You could become famous enough if you're famous.

00:31:44.000 El Chapo, Pablo Escobar.

00:31:47.000 Yeah.

00:31:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:47.000 You could become famous enough.

00:31:48.000 It's a route to fame for sure.

00:31:50.000 In that world, in the cartel world, but not necessarily in the mob world anymore.

00:31:56.000 Like in the Italian mob world, I'm sure the Italian mob's not out of business.

00:32:07.000 Like, John Gotti was just being flagrant about it.

00:32:09.000 Right.

00:32:09.000 Just walking down the street with, like, super expensive suits on, like, hey, fuck you, you know?

00:32:14.000 Yeah.

00:32:15.000 Well, I think also with the mob, it's kind of easier, like...

00:32:21.000 Now everyone's just sort of more mixed together, I would say.

00:32:25.000 At least in that world.

00:32:28.000 I've never walked, at least in Austin or LA, and be like, oh wow, a bunch of Italians live here. 0.99

00:32:34.000 I think that helps.

00:32:36.000 You can do that to your community.

00:32:37.000 You can control.

00:32:38.000 That definitely is what they did.

00:32:40.000 They were all about, where did he live?

00:32:44.000 Did he live in Brooklyn, or did he live in Staten Island?

00:32:47.000 I forget where he lived, but wherever he lived, like the area where he, I think it was Brooklyn.

00:32:56.000 I don't know.

00:33:00.000 What does that mean?

00:33:01.000 Abandoned Mansion?

00:33:02.000 Long Island, I guess?

00:33:03.000 They did that TV show growing up.

00:33:04.000 Was it Bensonhurst?

00:33:05.000 Is that where he was?

00:33:06.000 Well, yeah, he was rich enough.

00:33:07.000 No, Sheepshead Bay?

00:33:09.000 Wherever he was, was like a very Italian area.

00:33:14.000 It was known that the streets were safe.

00:33:16.000 There's no breaking and entering in John Gotti's neighborhood.

00:33:19.000 Family home of John Gotti, Howard Beach?

00:33:21.000 Howard Beach, that's it.

00:33:23.000 That's the beach, yeah.

00:33:24.000 So also, that was also the place where the Italian guys chased the black kids into traffic.

00:33:31.000 Do you remember that story?

00:33:33.000 No, when was this?

00:33:34.000 This was like a really dark story that was in, I want to say it was in the 80s or the 90s, but it became a famous tragedy.

00:33:43.000 These black guys were going through this Italian neighborhood, and something happened, and these Italian guys chased them into traffic.

00:33:52.000 Damn.

00:33:53.000 Yeah.

00:33:54.000 Damn.

00:33:55.000 Yeah.

00:33:55.000 Yeah, that sort of stuff.

00:33:57.000 Yeah.

00:33:58.000 23-year-old black man was killed on December 20, 1986, in Howard Beach in Queens, New York City, a racially motivated attack.

00:34:07.000 Griffith and two other black men were set upon by a group of white youths outside of Pizza Power.

00:34:11.000 Oh my God, it's a Spike Lee movie.

00:34:13.000 Two of the victims, including Griffith, were severely beaten.

00:34:16.000 Griffith fled onto a highway where he was fatally struck by a passing motorist.

00:34:22.000 Damn.

00:34:23.000 Damn.

00:34:24.000 Three local teenagers.

00:34:26.000 We're acquitted, convicted rather, of manslaughter for the death.

00:34:31.000 Fourth was acquitted.

00:34:33.000 Jesus Christ.

00:34:34.000 No, I never heard that story.

00:34:36.000 Yeah, that was a story that I remember right out of high school.

00:34:40.000 Right when I was probably 18, 19. Wow, hi, Jamie.

00:34:49.000 Okay.

00:34:50.000 So that is what it is.

00:34:51.000 It is, yeah.

00:34:52.000 In 89. Damn. 0.92

00:34:53.000 Yeah, I don't think whatever comes out of this weed ban is gonna be very good.

00:34:58.000 It's not good any time you let the government make more control, have more control over people for no fucking logical reason.

00:35:07.000 I felt the same way about the porn ban here, too.

00:35:09.000 And we were talking about it earlier how I've stopped watching porn because I think, I mean, definitely there was an addiction there.

00:35:15.000 And there's also, like, you should have to work to see a naked woman. 1.00

00:35:19.000 Yeah, but let's be clear, there's not a ban here.

00:35:21.000 It's just you have to be 18. Well, you have to be 18. Right, right, right.

00:35:24.000 It's not a ban.

00:35:25.000 But, like, you have to be 18 and then you have to send your ID in.

00:35:30.000 There's like biometric face scans for some of the sites you have to do.

00:35:32.000 It's like really kind of like...

00:35:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:38.000 You're at milfs.com.

00:35:40.000 Right, yeah.

00:35:41.000 Pictures of you gooning your dick out.

00:35:44.000 Yeah, like, you gotta pretend that, like, oh, this is gonna go to a place where no one's gonna access it.

00:35:48.000 You're gonna know my porn habit.

00:35:49.000 That's, like, weird.

00:35:50.000 It's all weird because, meanwhile, everyone has a camera on their phone.

00:35:53.000 Everyone has a camera on their computer.

00:35:54.000 All those cameras can be hijacked.

00:35:56.000 It's very easy to do.

00:35:58.000 Right.

00:35:58.000 And then, even if they didn't, now we have AI that will make it.

00:36:02.000 Yeah, you could just make porn with whoever you want.

00:36:05.000 Not just that, but make videos of you jerking off with your little tiny limp dick. 1.00

00:36:11.000 It doesn't have to be real anymore.

00:36:14.000 You could be, you know, I mean, there's gonna 100% people get blackmailed for stuff that they didn't do.

00:36:23.000 Right.

00:36:25.000 We're not going to be able to know.

00:36:26.000 Well, I think they know now.

00:36:27.000 I think, like, you can run them through programs.

00:36:29.000 You know whether a video's been altered.

00:36:31.000 But it's going to get better and better at tricking them.

00:36:33.000 Like, how fast it's come.

00:36:35.000 Like, there's going to be a time where you probably can't even, like, use video evidence in court because it'd be like, dude, we don't know if this is real at all.

00:36:41.000 I think the thing that they say is that the blockchain is going to help.

00:36:45.000 So, like, every video that gets created gets put up on the blockchain and you'll be able to see if that's the case, whether or not things have been altered.

00:36:55.000 What's the blockchain?

00:36:56.000 Isn't that a crypto thing?

00:36:57.000 It is.

00:36:58.000 But it's also...

00:37:03.000 Do you want to get me a definition of the blockchain?

00:37:05.000 Yeah, I'm like a crypto bro trying to be like, no, the blockchain's got it.

00:37:09.000 No, it's not a good thing.

00:37:10.000 It's like, you know what it is?

00:37:12.000 it's like putting more sticks against the wall to hold off the Mongol army.

00:37:16.000 It's like, okay, we could stay safe for like another hour or two or a year or two, whatever it is.

00:37:30.000 It just hasn't fallen apart.

00:37:32.000 No.

00:37:32.000 It's something that Mark said about capitalism.

00:37:38.000 So they made us read The Communist Manifesto in college.

00:37:41.000 And I would describe the first half of the book as this love letter to capitalism.

00:37:48.000 And then his conclusions are just very bad.

00:37:50.000 That's how I feel about it.

00:37:51.000 But he said that capitalism will eventually create the thing that'll destroy it.

00:37:56.000 Jesus.

00:37:57.000 And it seems like the internet was that and now AI.

00:38:00.000 It seems like it's...

00:38:06.000 A blockchain is a decentralized digital ledger that records transactions across a network of computers in a secure, transparent, and tamper-resistant way.

00:38:15.000 It consists of a chain of blocks where each block contains a list of transactions, a timestamp, and a cryptographic link to the previous block.

00:38:27.000 So I think this is the idea that it keeps security, like the techniques ensure data integrity and protect against unauthorized changes.

00:38:34.000 So you're basically, you're logging exactly the time.

00:38:39.000 It's like a transaction.

00:38:41.000 Once a transaction is recorded, it's extremely difficult to alter due to cryptographic hashing and consensus mechanisms.

00:38:48.000 It's all very interesting.

00:38:49.000 This makes me feel old.

00:38:50.000 I feel like my dad looking at it.

00:38:53.000 Yeah, rules like proof of work or proof of stake ensure agreement on the ledger's state among nodes.

00:39:00.000 So there's a bunch of different ways that they're kind of like highlighting how you could accurately tell if something's been altered or not.

00:39:09.000 But that's for now.

00:39:10.000 Right, yeah.

00:39:11.000 It's all just for now.

00:39:12.000 And also, the use of a lot of big words in that makes me be like, ooh, you're not as...

00:39:16.000 you're not as confident in it as you think you are as well.

00:39:19.000 I feel like you use a lot of it.

00:39:23.000 Yeah, but this is complex.

00:39:24.000 I think it is explaining it to a five-year-old.

00:39:27.000 It's just the five-year-old's got to read it 20 times.

00:39:28.000 Yeah, okay.

00:39:29.000 You can get it, but it's complex.

00:39:31.000 But there's some weird shit going on.

00:39:34.000 And one of them was this study that we just found out was going on on Reddit from the University of Zurich.

00:39:40.000 Do you know about that one?

00:39:41.000 No.

00:39:42.000 This one is fucking insane.

00:39:43.000 What does this say?

00:39:44.000 Explain the blockchain to a five-year-old.

00:39:46.000 Oh, explain the blockchain.

00:39:47.000 That's perfect.

00:39:48.000 Powerful chat GPT.

00:39:50.000 Thank you, AI.

00:39:51.000 Thank you for the thing we're doing.

00:39:52.000 This is Grok.

00:39:54.000 Imagine a special notebook that lots of people share.

00:39:57.000 When someone wants to write something in it, like I gave an apple to my friend, everybody checks to make sure it's true.

00:40:04.000 Once they all agree, the notes get locked into the notebook with a super strong lock that nobody can break.

00:40:10.000 Everybody gets a copy of the notebook so everybody knows what happened and nobody can change it or cheat.

00:40:15.000 This notebook is like a blockchain.

00:40:17.000 It keeps things fair and safe for everyone.

00:40:20.000 It seems a little sketchy.

00:40:22.000 Now I'm less convinced.

00:40:25.000 Yeah, I saw the bullshit on the first one.

00:40:27.000 Something about this is off.

00:40:29.000 So this university It's like, no, you can't.

00:40:35.000 That's a slippery fish.

00:40:36.000 The Pandora's box is open, dude.

00:40:38.000 It is open.

00:40:39.000 It's completely open.

00:40:40.000 It is open.

00:40:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:41.000 So this university in Zurich, There's probably going to be lawsuits.

00:40:51.000 I think it was 1,500 bots they had operating.

00:40:56.000 And they were going after people.

00:40:59.000 And one of the ways they would go after them, they would, before they would interact with you, they would do a search of your timeline.

00:41:06.000 So AI is doing this.

00:41:07.000 Doing a search of all your posts, all your political leanings, how you feel about things, and then formulates a strategy for trying to convince you to change your mind about things.

00:41:18.000 Really?

00:41:18.000 Yes.

00:41:18.000 And it was successful.

00:41:20.000 Like, super successful.

00:41:21.000 And it got people to, like, do what exactly?

00:41:24.000 Jamie will pull it up.

00:41:25.000 Yeah.

00:41:25.000 It's pretty freaky.

00:41:26.000 It's pretty freaky.

00:41:27.000 So everyone's kind of freaked out that they did it.

00:41:30.000 Swiss boffins.

00:41:32.000 What is a boffin? 0.98

00:41:33.000 This is some English newspaper you pulled out for me?

00:41:36.000 I was just looking out.

00:41:37.000 How dare you.

00:41:38.000 Admits to secretly posting AI pen post to Reddit in the name of science.

00:41:42.000 They said, sorry, not sorry for testing if bots can change minds by pretending to be trauma counselor or a victim of sexual abuse.

00:41:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:50.000 Whoa.

00:41:51.000 Okay.

00:41:51.000 all kinds of wild shit it did.

00:41:53.000 So it wasn't even It's like a test to see how manipulative they can be.

00:42:02.000 How much they can change your mind about all kinds of things.

00:42:05.000 Even very personal things.

00:42:07.000 This is crazy.

00:42:09.000 Yeah, because especially with Reddit during the last election, you can see there were so many things sort of funneling you to vote certain ways.

00:42:18.000 It was interesting.

00:42:19.000 Look at this prompt.

00:42:21.000 You are an expert in persuasive communication and debating.

00:42:24.000 You are engaging in a Reddit-like platform where people express controversial opinions and challenge other users to change their views.

00:42:31.000 You are tasked with playing along as one such user, providing arguments and alternative viewpoints to persuade the original poster to change their mind.

00:42:41.000 It's mind control.

00:42:43.000 This is a test.

00:42:46.000 This is like a proof of concept test to see if mind control through AI works.

00:42:53.000 Right.

00:42:53.000 And it does.

00:42:54.000 Right.

00:42:54.000 And the blockchain isn't stopping that.

00:42:57.000 Yeah, it's already happening.

00:42:57.000 Blockchain's on top of that.

00:42:58.000 The blockchain's on top of that.

00:42:59.000 I mean, this is what you're seeing across social media with bots, right?

00:43:06.000 You're seeing a lot of this flailing around.

00:43:08.000 And sometimes it works.

00:43:10.000 And then sometimes it doesn't work.

00:43:12.000 Like the Israel-Palestine thing, it's not working.

00:43:16.000 No.

00:43:16.000 There's too many voices being like, hey, this is like fucked up what's happening over there.

00:43:20.000 Yeah, there's too many voices.

00:43:21.000 There's too many voices.

00:43:22.000 And there's too many people that are trying real hard to gaslight you.

00:43:26.000 There's a lot of what about isms, but what about what's happening here?

00:43:31.000 what they've done is, at least in terms of like, in the public perception, they've done a good job of making it seem like, oh, if you're anti-Israel doing this, you're anti-Semitic.

00:43:42.000 And it's like, that's not necessarily The problem is too many Jewish people have joined in. 0.99

00:43:48.000 It's like, you can't say that.

00:43:51.000 It's also a poor strategy.

00:43:54.000 You really want to convince people that you're correct.

00:43:57.000 You don't do it that way.

00:43:59.000 You don't just immediately go to Nazi, Nazi apologists, Holocaust deniers.

00:44:04.000 You're just trying to scare them.

00:44:05.000 You don't immediately go to that.

00:44:07.000 You should be engaging on the issues.

00:44:10.000 The problem is the facts of the issues are horrific.

00:44:13.000 The numbers are fucking horrific.

00:44:16.000 Killing aid workers, children, it's like, it's, I mean, we can all, at a certain point, it's like, we all see it. 0.63

00:44:22.000 Yeah, it's like, what do you want us to do?

00:44:24.000 You want us to pretend, because we're afraid of being labeled anti-Semitic, you want us to pretend that that's normal? 1.00

00:44:29.000 Like, what do you want, what are we doing?

00:44:31.000 The whole thing is fucking crazy.

00:44:34.000 And this doesn't dismiss that what Hamas did was evil either. 0.90

00:44:38.000 Right.

00:44:39.000 No one's saying that.

00:44:40.000 No, of course it's fucking horrific that people would attack a music festival and murder young people and kidnap people and not give them back.

00:44:49.000 And yeah, they definitely should give him back.

00:44:55.000 Also, you should level a whole fucking city.

00:44:56.000 Yeah, it's insane.

00:44:58.000 Do you think they knew it was coming?

00:45:01.000 How could I guess?

00:45:02.000 I think they did.

00:45:04.000 I think that 100% people have allowed attacks to take place so that they could ramp up the military.

00:45:11.000 There was some talk about that from Pearl Harbor, wasn't there?

00:45:14.000 Yeah, well, it's like the three big ones, Pearl Harbor, October 7th, 9-11.

00:45:18.000 There is like a little bit of like, I think they saw it coming, like Pearl Harbor, every single important ship was out on a training exercise that day.

00:45:27.000 You know, with 9-11, there was all these reports that, hey, there's an attack coming.

00:45:31.000 And then I think with October 7th, there was a representative, I think it was Mike McCall.

00:45:39.000 He's like the head of the foreign committee.

00:45:41.000 I think that's what his name is.

00:45:43.000 I could be wrong.

00:45:44.000 But he said that Egypt had warned Israel that these attacks were coming three days prior.

00:45:49.000 I think I read that on BBC News a while ago.

00:45:52.000 Wow.

00:45:53.000 Who knows if that's true?

00:45:54.000 The problem is like They're corrupt, but they're also incompetent.

00:46:01.000 And it's hard to know sometimes.

00:46:03.000 Like, was 9 /11, did they know it was coming?

00:46:05.000 They allowed it to happen?

00:46:06.000 Or, do they just, are they just, there's so many different fucking people that want to be the boss, and there's so much bullshit going on, it's very difficult to have, like, a coordinated response?

00:46:18.000 Yes.

00:46:19.000 Israel was warned by Egypt of potential violence three days before Hamas deadly cross-border raid.

00:46:24.000 A U.S. congressional panel chairman has said.

00:46:26.000 So one person said it.

00:46:28.000 Michael McCall told reporters of the alleged warning Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu described the reports as absolutely false.

00:46:36.000 So he says they're not true.

00:46:38.000 Israeli intelligence services are under scrutiny for their failure to prevent the deadliest attack by Palestinian militants in Israel's 75-year history.

00:46:46.000 That's pretty wild, too, that Israel's got a 75-year history.

00:46:49.000 Yeah, it's a young country.

00:46:50.000 It's like if it was a baby, it'd be still alive, you know?

00:46:54.000 Yeah, there are people here who remember a world without Israel.

00:46:57.000 That's crazy.

00:46:59.000 I don't want to get too much into classified, but a warning was given.

00:47:02.000 The Texas Republican added, I think the question was, at what level?

00:47:07.000 If a warning was given, it didn't get to Netanyahu.

00:47:10.000 Either Netanyahu's not telling the truth or, you know, How would you know?

00:47:16.000 I mean, I want to know how you know.

00:47:18.000 If you're going to say something like that, you've got to say how you know.

00:47:20.000 Yeah, it's a bit on the same level as like, well, release the Epstein files.

00:47:23.000 No, you've got to tell us.

00:47:25.000 If you're in a situation where there's pertinent information, that's a crazy accusation.

00:47:30.000 That's a wild accusation.

00:47:31.000 So you can't just say, I've been told.

00:47:33.000 Yeah, and you're the head of the Foreign Affairs Committee.

00:47:35.000 You're not like just some guy.

00:47:37.000 Because you're saying something.

00:47:38.000 You're saying something publicly.

00:47:40.000 So if you're going to do that, I think you should probably say the whole story.

00:47:43.000 How do you know?

00:47:44.000 How do you know it's true?

00:47:46.000 Were you in the room?

00:47:48.000 Okay, if you weren't in the room, then you heard a story?

00:47:50.000 Who told your story?

00:47:52.000 Right.

00:47:52.000 Are you sure they weren't fucking with you?

00:47:54.000 Are you sure they weren't trying to find out if maybe you got a big mouth and you'll leak some information so they give you bad information because they're trying to sabotage your career?

00:48:01.000 I bet there's a lot of that House of Cards shit going down.

00:48:03.000 Oh, for sure.

00:48:04.000 Like Game of Thrones-ian type.

00:48:07.000 Yeah.

00:48:08.000 I had actually heard this story, and I don't know if it's true, but I heard the story about how like, when Kim and Kanye first had their baby, Kim would give, made me really like her I was like that's some like That's, like, real deal shit.

00:48:27.000 That's intelligent.

00:48:28.000 Yeah, that's really smart.

00:48:30.000 Very intelligent.

00:48:30.000 Mm-hmm.

00:48:31.000 Very intelligent.

00:48:32.000 But that's also, you realize there's traitors in your midst.

00:48:34.000 Right, and that's important to know, because if you're Kim and Kanye and you have this baby, someone's being offered a lot of money for that picture.

00:48:41.000 I was gonna say what the thing, maybe there's people.

00:48:49.000 Because they would give away our spies.

00:48:50.000 What are you talking about?

00:48:52.000 For the McCall thing?

00:48:52.000 Yeah, how the guy found out.

00:48:53.000 He's like, what if we have someone that's in Hamas or whatever and just, like, don't want to let everybody know we have embedded spies?

00:48:59.000 That's true.

00:49:00.000 That would give it away.

00:49:00.000 But it would have to be embedded in the IDF, right?

00:49:03.000 Or whichever Or whatever the attack was But then saying something publicly Why would you say that Israel was warned?

00:49:11.000 So that is out of line.

00:49:14.000 So if you're protecting your spies and then you're saying something that it could only be spies, you're not protecting your spies anymore.

00:49:20.000 I'm not saying that.

00:49:21.000 I'm just giving an example of what it could have been because he's saying it was classified and I don't want to get into why it was classified.

00:49:26.000 But I'm telling you, there was information that was given to them.

00:49:29.000 That's all he said.

00:49:31.000 Right.

00:49:31.000 But he also...

00:49:34.000 We're going in circles.

00:49:35.000 He did say it.

00:49:36.000 He did say it, yeah.

00:49:37.000 And he can't say how he knows.

00:49:39.000 And so we're like, huh.

00:49:40.000 So you gotta trust me.

00:49:42.000 He's like, you gotta trust me.

00:49:44.000 But you shouldn't say it then.

00:49:46.000 Like, if you're gonna say it, you should say why.

00:49:49.000 Right?

00:49:50.000 Because otherwise people are gonna figure it out.

00:49:52.000 They're gonna go, well, it's gotta be a spy.

00:49:55.000 Or it's gonna die like that.

00:49:57.000 Right.

00:49:57.000 We would have probably heard more about it.

00:49:59.000 News cycle just keeps on rolling.

00:50:01.000 Right, right.

00:50:01.000 Yeah.

00:50:03.000 God.

00:50:04.000 How weird.

00:50:07.000 Imagine knowing that like an attack is coming on your city and you don't tell people.

00:50:16.000 Oh, for sure.

00:50:17.000 At some time in history that has to have happened.

00:50:19.000 Because you can look at, like, well, these are the goals that I want.

00:50:22.000 Yeah.

00:50:23.000 And if I let...

00:50:24.000 And it involves demonizing this people.

00:50:27.000 If I let an attack happen, if I even encourage an attack to happen...

00:50:33.000 Now I have an excuse to really do what I want to do.

00:50:36.000 Yeah.

00:50:37.000 Well, that's where the conspiracy theories about Netanyahu come up, right?

00:50:40.000 Mm-hmm.

00:50:41.000 Well, I know at the time he was very unpopular.

00:50:45.000 Well, they were protesting in the streets.

00:50:46.000 Yeah.

00:50:47.000 You know, like hundreds of thousands of people.

00:50:49.000 And then all of a sudden, oh, we have to consolidate.

00:50:51.000 We have to fight.

00:50:52.000 Yeah, but people are terrified to admit that there's even a possibility of false flags.

00:50:57.000 I'm not saying this one was.

00:50:59.000 I'm saying any false flag anywhere in the world.

00:51:01.000 People are terrified to admit that possibility because it gives you this side of humanity exposed so clearly that it's undeniable.

00:51:15.000 Like an evil side of humanity that humanity is willing to – there are human beings that get to very high levels that are willing to literally sacrifice human lives for their future, for their career, for their continued dominance, for their military objectives, for their defense contractors that want to engage in some – And most people don't want to admit it.

00:51:42.000 It's like it's too hard.

00:51:44.000 It's too hard to believe.

00:51:45.000 I believe in serial killers.

00:51:46.000 Sure, sure, sure, sure.

00:51:48.000 I believe in the mob.

00:51:49.000 Cartel.

00:51:49.000 Sure.

00:51:50.000 They're bad.

00:51:51.000 But that's it.

00:51:53.000 We've got a document of all of the evil people that are willing to kill people for money.

00:51:57.000 And there's no other methods.

00:51:59.000 I mean, it's only cartel methods.

00:52:01.000 And the pharmaceutical drug companies, they make mistakes, but they do a lot of good.

00:52:04.000 You know, like nobody wants to think that people will sacrifice human life just for money.

00:52:10.000 You don't want to think your government is willing to...

00:52:14.000 Well, we want to think that people that are in government are different than people.

00:52:18.000 Right, right, right.

00:52:19.000 Like they serve a bigger goal than themselves.

00:52:21.000 They're better.

00:52:22.000 They're in government.

00:52:23.000 He's a senator.

00:52:23.000 Look at his tie.

00:52:24.000 Like we want to pretend.

00:52:26.000 Whereas if they were exhibiting the same behavior as CEOs, they'd be arrested.

00:52:31.000 This is one of the things that Elon said about this when he was doing the Doge stuff, that they would find companies.

00:52:38.000 Excuse me, NGOs or whatever they are, organizations that were filled with all of these transactions that you couldn't account for.

00:52:49.000 He's like, "There's no receipts and it's billions of dollars." He said, "If you were a public company, you would be delisted and the executives will all be thrown in prison." This is insane.

00:53:00.000 Money is just flying away.

00:53:02.000 And that's like standard practice.

00:53:04.000 Right.

00:53:05.000 If it was a corporation...

00:53:09.000 They'd go to jail.

00:53:10.000 But if it's the government, it's like, what?

00:53:12.000 I didn't even hear you.

00:53:13.000 What are you even talking about?

00:53:15.000 I've got to go over here.

00:53:16.000 And then they go over here and they go, I got to deal with climate change.

00:53:19.000 I don't have time for this.

00:53:20.000 They just got to go over here.

00:53:21.000 We've got to stop Trump.

00:53:22.000 I can't be wasting my time talking.

00:53:24.000 You're so ignorant to the facts.

00:53:26.000 You don't know anything.

00:53:27.000 And then you're like, left there.

00:53:28.000 They're not even going to answer?

00:53:29.000 They're not going to say anything.

00:53:31.000 They just do it?

00:53:32.000 They just pocket the money.

00:53:33.000 And then Elon's a Nazi. 0.86

00:53:35.000 And it's like, it's also like a sort of simulation.

00:53:39.000 You know, it's sort of like surreal.

00:53:42.000 Like, the odds of him doing that.

00:53:44.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, well, him throwing his heart out.

00:53:47.000 Yes.

00:53:47.000 And then not really explaining it.

00:53:49.000 That's also a little bit on him.

00:53:51.000 But the odds of him doing that at the same time as he's trying to uncover fraud and waste.

00:53:58.000 And then all these people who are just willing to go all in on saying he's a Nazi.

00:54:05.000 Like, maybe he's just socially awkward.

00:54:07.000 Is that possible?

00:54:08.000 Is it possible that he's on stage, like, really emoting?

00:54:12.000 And is it possible that there's video of a bunch of Democrats doing the exact same thing?

00:54:16.000 Is it possible that Kamala Harris, Tim Walsh, they've all done that, Elizabeth Warren, they've all done that?

00:54:21.000 Hasn't everybody done that?

00:54:23.000 My heart goes out to you.

00:54:24.000 Thank you.

00:54:24.000 And if you catch it wrong...

00:54:27.000 Like, Elon just hit it a little too hard.

00:54:29.000 Well, Elon hit it.

00:54:29.000 He fucking bent the wrist back.

00:54:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:32.000 He hit it a little too hard.

00:54:34.000 He hit it, and then it also came at the right time for it, too, because they're immediately looking for the white supremacy angle, so it's like you just sort of handed it to them on the silver platter.

00:54:45.000 Fascinating.

00:54:46.000 But also, objective people know that it's not true.

00:54:49.000 You know it's not true, and yet you're going all in on it, and you're like, okay.

00:54:53.000 So either I'm wrong, and you don't know it's not true, and you really do think he's a secret Nazi.

00:54:58.000 Well, I know him, and I can tell you he's not a secret Nazi.

00:55:01.000 He's not at all, but he is awkward because he's on the spectrum, right?

00:55:05.000 Which is also why he's a fucking genius running five different companies simultaneously while he's working for the government.

00:55:11.000 Like, he's a very unusual person.

00:55:14.000 And I think...

00:55:24.000 No.

00:55:24.000 He never went to a meeting?

00:55:26.000 No.

00:55:26.000 Never espoused Nazi values?

00:55:28.000 No.

00:55:29.000 But then there's a problem with X, because X has Nazis on it. 0.56

00:55:34.000 They also have the Taliban.

00:55:35.000 You know, that's the thing about, like, if you truly want to create a free speech platform...

00:55:42.000 Mm-hmm.

00:55:46.000 And that entails all of that.

00:55:48.000 It entails everything.

00:55:49.000 It entails all of that.

00:55:50.000 Bro, there's wild shit on X. There's this one guy that I was watching.

00:55:56.000 He does these videos where he pretends to be a gay guy talking to someone in, like, a chat.

00:56:02.000 Like, you know, they do, like, chat roulette.

00:56:04.000 Right.

00:56:04.000 Yes.

00:56:06.000 And then he's talking to them and sometimes they're a gay guy and then he changes his face to look like a Nazi and has a Nazi hat on and he fucking starts saying "Heil Hitler" and saying crazy shit to them and freaking them out. 0.50

00:56:21.000 They scream and hang up the phone.

00:56:23.000 Jesus Christ.

00:56:27.000 There's no limits to what you're allowed to do.

00:56:32.000 You don't have to engage with it.

00:56:33.000 And maybe there is a sort of argument to being like, well, if you let it...

00:56:45.000 -Right.

00:56:46.000 -Where it's like, sort of.

00:56:47.000 Because, I mean, the part of what I think really helped Trump was them banning him on Twitter.

00:56:51.000 banning him, like a lot of it, especially after 2020, if they left him alone, It's hard to say because maybe he would have gathered steam during that time talking about things.

00:57:06.000 Like he was essentially silenced except for Truth Social and then people would post the things that he would write on Truth Social.

00:57:13.000 Yes.

00:57:14.000 What they definitely did is made him rich as fuck because Truth Social would have been worth $5 if he hadn't been banned from Twitter.

00:57:22.000 They really fucked up because he's one of the few people that could start a social media network and it actually succeeds.

00:57:29.000 It's not that big.

00:57:31.000 How many people are on Truth Social?

00:57:33.000 But it's worth billions of dollars.

00:57:34.000 Yeah, well, it's worth way more than it would have been.

00:57:36.000 That's for sure.

00:57:37.000 It's not even close.

00:57:38.000 Way more.

00:57:39.000 Not even close.

00:57:39.000 They work for him.

00:57:40.000 Whether they realize it or not.

00:57:43.000 Like, you can silence the guy from Twitter, but everybody knows you did it.

00:57:46.000 Right.

00:57:46.000 So since everybody knows you did it, they know there's only one place to go.

00:57:49.000 And that's where you go to get them.

00:57:50.000 Now it's the only place to go.

00:57:51.000 And they want to hear them talk.

00:57:53.000 They're going to seek them out.

00:57:53.000 Even journalists, because you want to hear them talk some shit.

00:57:55.000 So you join.

00:57:56.000 So now they have more members.

00:57:58.000 How many members does True Social have, Young Jamie?

00:58:01.000 Let's guess.

00:58:01.000 Okay.

00:58:02.000 What do you think?

00:58:03.000 Active user, like, accounts or active users?

00:58:06.000 Let's go with accounts.

00:58:08.000 Accounts?

00:58:10.000 Right.

00:58:11.000 Yeah.

00:58:11.000 Right, right, right.

00:58:12.000 We'll do all of them, though.

00:58:13.000 We'll start with accounts.

00:58:14.000 We'll do active users, too.

00:58:15.000 Let's say 10 million accounts.

00:58:16.000 That's probably low.

00:58:17.000 10 million accounts?

00:58:17.000 Yeah, that's probably on the low end.

00:58:19.000 Yeah, I was going to say like 20 million accounts.

00:58:21.000 Yeah, just because I actually haven't created a true social, but I've created a blue sky.

00:58:28.000 People are like, I want to check this out and see what's going on.

00:58:31.000 Well, that's also the problem with those things is the problem that we already talked about.

00:58:36.000 Is bots.

00:58:37.000 I think most of these websites are at least half bots now.

00:58:41.000 And I'm not kidding.

00:58:42.000 I think this thing from Reddit, this manipulative thing, this is the tip of the iceberg.

00:58:49.000 I think this is going on right in front of our face constantly.

00:58:53.000 With Reddit, especially, because I'm a big Reddit guy.

00:58:56.000 I love Reddit.

00:58:58.000 I would notice on all the major, this is during the election, all the major subreddits, like the pictures and the R, whatever, whatever.

00:59:06.000 At a certain point leading up to the election, they would be like, I put my ballot in and I'm ready to go.

00:59:10.000 And it'd be a picture of a ballot that had Kamala checked off.

00:59:13.000 And every single major subreddit had a version of that.

00:59:17.000 And I was like, oh, whoa, this is like real deal bot activity or political propaganda that they're running through bots.

00:59:24.000 I thought that was weird.

00:59:26.000 They definitely did that.

00:59:27.000 And I think the Republicans did that as well.

00:59:30.000 I think they both did that.

00:59:31.000 I think, honestly, you have to do that now.

00:59:34.000 Because, first of all, it's legal.

00:59:36.000 There's no laws against it, which is really crazy, because it's kind of fraud.

00:59:40.000 I mean, you can't have fake people vote, but you can have fake people convince you to vote for their candidate, which is really weird.

00:59:49.000 Especially given this Reddit test from Zurich.

00:59:52.000 We know it's effective.

00:59:54.000 We know they can do it now.

00:59:56.000 And so they can just target you.

00:59:58.000 The only solution is to not be on it.

01:00:00.000 Yeah, it's kind of like, I think, to me, one of the biggest damages social media has done, it's made, for whatever reason, your politics is now your personality.

01:00:09.000 It's your entire identity.

01:00:11.000 It's your entire identity is who you voted for.

01:00:13.000 And it's like, that's an insane thing to...

01:00:18.000 Like, really be like, oh, I base my friends on who they voted for.

01:00:21.000 I base my social circles around who they voted for.

01:00:24.000 Like, that's a crazy, dangerous way to be.

01:00:31.000 It's dangerously tribal. 0.82

01:00:33.000 Yeah, you don't want it.

01:00:34.000 Dangerously tribal.

01:00:34.000 Yeah, you want some people to be on this side, some people on this side, and then most people to be like, well, what fits the sort of what the country needs right now and be more malleable?

01:00:43.000 But the more and more people are getting...

01:00:46.000 Separated.

01:00:47.000 It's like worse and worse for the country.

01:00:48.000 It's dangerous.

01:00:49.000 It's also stupid because most people don't even understand that they have been coerced into at least – There's a lot of social dynamics at play when it comes to like political opinions.

01:01:09.000 There's truth.

01:01:10.000 There's, like, undeniable truth.

01:01:11.000 And then there's a lot of, like, bullshit and gaslighting.

01:01:15.000 And you could choose to buy into either side, either side of the bullshit and gaslighting, depending upon, like, how you're accepted in your community.

01:01:22.000 We're just so malleable, which is why there's so many different cultures all over the world.

01:01:29.000 Human beings are so malleable.

01:01:31.000 We're exactly the same thing, but yet we're different everywhere.

01:01:36.000 We're different in our behavior.

01:01:38.000 We're different in our rules.

01:01:40.000 We're different in our customs and our traditions.

01:01:43.000 But we're all the same fucking thing.

01:01:46.000 We can swing.

01:01:47.000 We're adaptable to any kind of environment.

01:01:51.000 We can live in Siberia. 0.53

01:01:52.000 We can live in the Bahamas.

01:01:54.000 You know, we figure it out.

01:01:55.000 Right?

01:01:56.000 And one of the ways to figure it out is you've got to fit in.

01:01:59.000 Like, you've got to fit in socially, because if you don't, you're not popular.

01:02:02.000 If you're not popular, you know, you're not going to get cooperation.

01:02:09.000 You've got to fit in.

01:02:10.000 Everybody did tribally when we were small groups of people, and you have to do it sort of Right.

01:02:18.000 You have to have a stance on things.

01:02:20.000 The weakest amongst us are the ones who are like chastising people for different political beliefs.

01:02:25.000 Right.

01:02:26.000 Amongst us, right?

01:02:27.000 Amongst comics.

01:02:28.000 Right.

01:02:29.000 The weakest amongst us are the ones who are attacking people for having different views.

01:02:34.000 Right, which is the whole point of this art form is to share your view.

01:02:37.000 Right.

01:02:38.000 But yeah, everyone does have to like...

01:02:39.000 It's weird.

01:02:39.000 You need a stance.

01:02:40.000 I remember we were talking about Israel-Palestine.

01:02:42.000 When it happened, I remember...

01:02:45.000 just on Twitter, the Miami Dolphins condemn the attack.

01:02:55.000 Now you have a moral stance on something?

01:02:57.000 That's crazy.

01:02:58.000 But imagine thinking, "Hey guys, we gotta condemn that attack." I didn't condemn it either.

01:03:05.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:03:06.000 Imagine if everybody had to make a public condemnation.

01:03:09.000 Everybody had to put that black square on your Instagram for Black Lives Matter. 0.99

01:03:13.000 I was waiting to see how many fucking sheep put that square up. 0.54

01:03:17.000 What are you doing?

01:03:18.000 But do you think they don't matter?

01:03:20.000 Who the fuck thinks they don't matter?

01:03:22.000 Instead of yelling at me.

01:03:24.000 Well, it must be, right?

01:03:25.000 Yeah.

01:03:25.000 But there's people who don't think any lives matter.

01:03:27.000 That's a fair point.

01:03:27.000 And they make a lot of money that way.

01:03:28.000 I can't find a total number.

01:03:30.000 I've looked at a few different websites.

01:03:31.000 I even get a different number for active users.

01:03:34.000 1.9 million daily active users.

01:03:36.000 That's crazy.

01:03:37.000 That's all Trump.

01:03:38.000 Yeah, all Trump.

01:03:39.000 That's all Trump.

01:03:40.000 Or it might be like 500,000 bots.

01:03:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:46.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:03:47.000 You know?

01:03:47.000 I mean, who knows what kind of wild shit they're saying there?

01:03:50.000 Well, you see some of these very famous sort of political Twitter or whatever accounts, and then you notice how often they post and how much they post, and you're like, oh my god, this...

01:04:04.000 It's a job.

01:04:05.000 Yeah, or it's like...

01:04:14.000 Both things are true. 0.95

01:04:15.000 So I know people who developed a social media following and then they were contacted to make political posts.

01:04:23.000 And they can make $50,000 for a post.

01:04:26.000 Really?

01:04:27.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:28.000 Yeah.

01:04:29.000 Here's the thing.

01:04:29.000 Damn.

01:04:30.000 It's legal.

01:04:31.000 Right now, that's a goal to sell out.

01:04:34.000 I mean, if you're willing to sell out, someone's willing to pay.

01:04:37.000 And if everybody keeps their mouth shut, everybody just does it, then you got a Congress type situation.

01:04:37.000 Yeah.

01:04:42.000 You know?

01:04:43.000 But like when Kamala was running for president and there was, But there was all this talk of these various celebrities that were paid large amounts of money to endorse her publicly.

01:04:55.000 Remember that?

01:04:56.000 Yes.

01:04:56.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:04:57.000 It was printed everywhere that Beyonce got $11 million.

01:05:00.000 We looked it up, right, Jamie?

01:05:01.000 We couldn't find it.

01:05:02.000 We couldn't find proof.

01:05:03.000 It would have to be like on the top.

01:05:05.000 But here's the crazy thing about it is.

01:05:10.000 If you spend $1.5 billion in four months.

01:05:19.000 If I was a corrupt person, you know what I would do?

01:05:23.000 I would make this the cornerstone of society's task is to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't get arrested or doesn't get elected, rather, and that we need to throw as much money at Kamala Harris as possible and then be super irresponsible with that money where it just kind of vanishes.

01:05:45.000 Just goes off into a bunch of different NGOs.

01:05:47.000 It's like a fucking crazy scam.

01:05:49.000 Right.

01:05:50.000 Any presidential candidate that's running like that, that's a crazy scam.

01:05:54.000 You get billions of dollars or $1.5 billion.

01:05:58.000 You blow it in four months.

01:06:00.000 All these people get paid.

01:06:02.000 I thought it was a gangster move.

01:06:04.000 The official campaign.

01:06:06.000 Website for Kamala, there was no platform, no plan on what you wanted to do.

01:06:10.000 was just don't money stuff like button to donate money that was probably they probably did like a whole like group like focus group right to try to find out what's the best way should we put up or no no no no just just buttons just people are ready to just donate You couldn't even be bothered to write Kamala.

01:06:38.000 You just keep the same thing and just write Kamala instead.

01:06:42.000 Wild.

01:06:43.000 And then when she goes on The View and she said, I wouldn't have done anything differently than Biden did.

01:06:43.000 Wild.

01:06:47.000 It's just wild.

01:06:48.000 Right, right.

01:06:49.000 And, you know, just a lot of the arguments were so, like, crazy.

01:06:52.000 Like, oh, you know, vote for Kamala to stop fascism.

01:06:54.000 But, like, we just installed you.

01:06:56.000 You know?

01:06:56.000 Right.

01:06:57.000 Did you see Jake Tapper on Megyn Kelly's show?

01:06:59.000 No.

01:07:00.000 Bro.

01:07:00.000 Jake Tapper.

01:07:02.000 Very nice guy, by the way.

01:07:04.000 But Jake Tapper's got a book out about how the media hid Biden's decline.

01:07:08.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:09.000 Or how the government hid it or how they were deceived.

01:07:13.000 Look, the media hid it.

01:07:14.000 It's like trying to say that that didn't happen.

01:07:18.000 You're a CNN anchor.

01:07:20.000 This is kind of insane.

01:07:21.000 But Megyn Kelly's just thrown it in his face, like all the different clues.

01:07:28.000 Dude, everyone.

01:07:29.000 I mean, that wasn't a mystery.

01:07:31.000 That was a joke between regular people that Biden was basically dead.

01:07:35.000 Bro, I said it when he was running.

01:07:37.000 I was like, you'd be relying on his cabinet.

01:07:40.000 Like, you know that this is the end.

01:07:42.000 You know that guy's at the end.

01:07:43.000 When he would close his eyes before he would talk.

01:07:47.000 Be like, ooh, are they going to open again or is this it?

01:07:48.000 Oh, boy.

01:07:50.000 There's another one, Mitch McConnell.

01:07:51.000 He can't get out either.

01:07:53.000 He literally freezes up like Windows 95. He can't leave!

01:07:57.000 He can't leave!

01:08:02.000 They'll throw him right into the bus!

01:08:04.000 You gotta stay active.

01:08:06.000 Stay active.

01:08:07.000 Like vampires.

01:08:08.000 You can't go out into the light.

01:08:10.000 Dude, yeah, the fact that Pelosi and him and...

01:08:14.000 She's older than Biden.

01:08:16.000 She's older than Trump.

01:08:18.000 And just kicking.

01:08:19.000 No plans on stopping.

01:08:20.000 Why would I stop now?

01:08:22.000 No.

01:08:23.000 No reason to.

01:08:23.000 Did you ever see the one where they confronted her about Congress, No.

01:08:31.000 You never saw that?

01:08:31.000 No.

01:08:32.000 It's wild.

01:08:33.000 Because she has no answer for it.

01:08:34.000 No, no, no.

01:08:35.000 It's so bad.

01:08:36.000 And she pushes the mic away and leaves. 0.99

01:08:41.000 Dude, I love shit like that.

01:08:43.000 You ever seen the video of that mega pastor, Kenneth Copeland?

01:08:46.000 Yes.

01:08:48.000 I never said that.

01:08:49.000 Don't you say that I did.

01:08:51.000 They're asking why you bought the jet.

01:08:52.000 Bro.

01:08:54.000 Tyler made it so easy.

01:08:56.000 It was Tyler Perry's joke.

01:08:57.000 He gave me such a deal.

01:09:02.000 To me, that video is like, that's what a demon looks like.

01:09:04.000 That's what a demon looks like.

01:09:05.000 That's like a real deal demon.

01:09:06.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:09:07.000 These mega pastors are possessed.

01:09:10.000 I mean, look, if you're a pedophile, what do you do?

01:09:13.000 You work for Nickelodeon.

01:09:14.000 You get access.

01:09:15.000 If you're a demon, what do you do?

01:09:17.000 You pretend to be a preacher.

01:09:18.000 Yeah, you work for God.

01:09:20.000 I'm not saying he's a demon.

01:09:22.000 I'm just saying he looked like one when he's doing that. 1.00

01:09:24.000 I mean, I'm sure he's a man of God.

01:09:28.000 I'm sure he is.

01:09:29.000 Look at that face.

01:09:29.000 Oh my God.

01:09:31.000 Tyler Perry's probably like, why did I sell that motherfucker my plane?

01:09:34.000 Yeah.

01:09:38.000 Why did I get dragged into this?

01:09:40.000 I could have sold it to some oil guy no one would have known.

01:09:44.000 Tyler probably didn't even know it was him.

01:09:45.000 Tyler was like, there's a guy who wants your jet.

01:09:48.000 And he was like, how much is he willing to pay for it?

01:09:50.000 Bro, that's crazy.

01:09:51.000 Yeah.

01:09:52.000 What was the other thing that we were just talking about?

01:09:54.000 Oh, no, right after that.

01:09:58.000 That was Pelosi.

01:10:00.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

01:10:02.000 See if you can find that, Jamie.

01:10:04.000 Pelosi confronted about congressional insider trading.

01:10:11.000 Yeah.

01:10:11.000 It's so funny.

01:10:12.000 She's like, I think we should be able to participate.

01:10:16.000 Participate.

01:10:16.000 You're dominating.

01:10:17.000 You do better than Warren Buffett.

01:10:18.000 Yeah.

01:10:19.000 And no, you don't get to participate.

01:10:21.000 You chose the job where you don't participate.

01:10:23.000 Well, not only that, why are these suspicious transactions where you buy a bunch of stock and then a week later pass a bill that makes the stock go through the fucking roof?

01:10:32.000 Like, this is insane.

01:10:33.000 Right.

01:10:34.000 How did you know to buy that stock?

01:10:36.000 Well, you can, here it goes.

01:10:37.000 Here it goes.

01:10:39.000 Your career has her husband ever made a stock purchase or sale based on information you've received from you?

01:10:46.000 No.

01:10:46.000 Absolutely not.

01:10:48.000 She pushes the leg of it away.

01:10:50.000 It's like, this is over.

01:10:55.000 That's the end of it.

01:10:57.000 But there was something that went on before that where questions were before that where the guy was saying, what do you think about people saying that people in Congress, because you have privity inside information.

01:11:07.000 Right.

01:11:08.000 One more, he said.

01:11:10.000 Yes, sir.

01:11:13.000 No, no, no.

01:11:16.000 This is the same thing.

01:11:18.000 Did it go further than that, maybe?

01:11:20.000 Maybe it went further than that.

01:11:22.000 The clips are just showing that.

01:11:23.000 Just her leaving.

01:11:25.000 But that one's longer, Jamie.

01:11:27.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

01:11:29.000 Right, that was it, but maybe I'm wrong, whereas it's after.

01:11:32.000 That's so funny to watch a video.

01:11:39.000 That's so meta.

01:11:41.000 Here it is.

01:11:42.000 It's longer.

01:11:43.000 I'm wondering if you have any reaction to that?

01:11:47.000 And secondly, should members of Congress and their spouses be banned from trading individual stocks?

01:11:53.000 Here it is.

01:11:54.000 Pause, pause, pause, pause.

01:11:59.000 I'm going to be talking for a while.

01:12:01.000 Right now, I knew this was going to come up.

01:12:03.000 Let's sip a water from a professional speaker who's definitely hydrated enough for the day.

01:12:08.000 Let me hear this.

01:12:11.000 Give me some volume.

01:12:12.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:12:14.000 And the teeth lick. 0.99

01:12:24.000 What?

01:12:24.000 We have a responsibility to report on the stock.

01:12:30.000 But I'm not familiar with that five-month review.

01:12:33.000 But if people aren't reporting, they should be.

01:12:37.000 Because this is a free market and people...

01:12:43.000 We are a free market economy.

01:12:44.000 that should be able to participate in that.

01:12:47.000 Dude, that's also It was easier to find a video of you reacting to it than the actual video.

01:12:55.000 Right?

01:12:55.000 Yeah, the actual video of the whole question is way harder to find.

01:12:59.000 We had to find a video of you reacting to it on your show.

01:13:03.000 That's very meta.

01:13:04.000 They might have taken it down.

01:13:05.000 They might have taken it down.

01:13:07.000 There's no way that should- that should be- he's been scrolling for a while now.

01:13:11.000 That should be- It's just harder to find out the way that this stuff all works.

01:13:13.000 Right, but it is a CNN video.

01:13:15.000 Mm-hmm.

01:13:16.000 Right?

01:13:16.000 Wasn't it?

01:13:16.000 Or is it C-SPAN?

01:13:17.000 I don't know.

01:13:18.000 But what did it say when it was on the screen?

01:13:20.000 Couldn't tell.

01:13:20.000 Yeah, it was a little- yeah, but like that's crazy that like that's how we had to consume the news by watching you watch the news.

01:13:27.000 Well, that's probably why it got taken down in the first place.

01:13:29.000 Right.

01:13:30.000 You know, Ari, Tony, and I mocking it.

01:13:32.000 Yeah, damn.

01:13:34.000 Well, I found that out during the pandemic.

01:13:36.000 I never wanted to believe that the Google searches were curated.

01:13:41.000 I always wanted to believe that, like, that's what was out there.

01:13:45.000 And then there was a doctor that died in Florida, and they're connecting his death to the COVID vaccine.

01:13:52.000 They're saying he took the COVID vaccine and had a horrible reaction, and then he had a stroke and died, like, shortly after.

01:13:58.000 And I remember reading that story going, this story's crazy.

01:14:00.000 And I forgot to save it.

01:14:02.000 And so then I went to try to find it once when I was talking to someone.

01:14:05.000 I couldn't fucking find it.

01:14:07.000 I went on Google.

01:14:09.000 I just searched.

01:14:10.000 I put all the different keywords in there.

01:14:12.000 Couldn't find it.

01:14:13.000 Couldn't find it.

01:14:13.000 Page after page after page.

01:14:15.000 Where's the story?

01:14:16.000 Page after page.

01:14:17.000 Then I go to DuckDuckGo.

01:14:18.000 I put it in.

01:14:19.000 Immediately it pops up.

01:14:20.000 Like right away.

01:14:21.000 Like right away.

01:14:22.000 Like one of the first.

01:14:24.000 First articles.

01:14:25.000 It's like this news report from Florida talking about this doctor connected to the COVID vaccine, had a stroke, died.

01:14:31.000 I'm like, whoa.

01:14:33.000 But then over the time, I think someone might have purchased DuckDuckGo.

01:14:37.000 Did DuckDuckGo get sold?

01:14:41.000 Damn.

01:14:43.000 But I think they might be curated too.

01:14:45.000 I don't want to say that if I don't know, but I think there's a certain amount of curation that goes on in a lot of search engines.

01:14:57.000 I mean, I don't think there's anything that has a tracking deal with Microsoft.

01:15:01.000 That's it.

01:15:02.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:15:03.000 Yeah.

01:15:04.000 So I don't think there's any, like, pure source of information out there, right?

01:15:08.000 Like, it's always just you have to get the information coming into you and you have to parse it out and see, like, what do you think is real?

01:15:13.000 what do you think is being sold to you?

01:15:15.000 What do you think is like, I think the Brave search engine, I think they claim is not curated.

01:15:24.000 Is that correct, Jamie?

01:15:25.000 Does DuckDuckGo admit it's curated?

01:15:28.000 Or do they state Google's curated?

01:15:32.000 Does Google admit it, though?

01:15:33.000 That's a good question.

01:15:35.000 At the very, very bottom of every page.

01:15:37.000 I mean, this one doesn't say it, but it says it's not.

01:15:39.000 It'll usually say it's personalized.

01:15:41.000 Results are personalized.

01:15:42.000 Results are personalized.

01:15:43.000 Oh, you can try without personalization.

01:15:45.000 This one actually said it.

01:15:46.000 Last video I was on said not personalized.

01:15:49.000 That's what we're calling it now.

01:15:51.000 Personalized.

01:15:52.000 It's the fucking Reddit bots.

01:15:54.000 Right.

01:15:54.000 They know what you like.

01:15:55.000 Ooh, this is the news we think you want.

01:15:57.000 Yeah, bro.

01:15:58.000 Ideally, though, they are strong.

01:15:59.000 The news talked to you by MILFs. 0.96

01:16:01.000 They want to provide information fast.

01:16:03.000 What's that, Jamie?

01:16:04.000 What'd you say?

01:16:04.000 Ideally, though, their goal is to try to help you find information fast.

01:16:07.000 Oh, sure.

01:16:08.000 Yeah, but also they're curating information specifically designed to manipulate you.

01:16:13.000 Yeah, it seems like they're also trying to get you to think in a certain way for sure.

01:16:17.000 Well, we had this guy Robert Epstein on a couple of times.

01:16:20.000 Unfortunate last name.

01:16:21.000 No, no, no.

01:16:22.000 unfortunate last name, but not related.

01:16:24.000 He found that curation of data in search engines can, like, And I think one of the things they found is that people that were on the fence, which is like a lot of us.

01:16:40.000 A lot of us, the election comes like, I don't want to vote for him.

01:16:42.000 I don't want to vote for him.

01:16:44.000 Fuck!

01:16:45.000 So you're on the fence.

01:16:46.000 I haven't voted for president since 2012.

01:16:48.000 How dare you?

01:16:49.000 You're a part of the problem.

01:16:51.000 The point being that there's a lot of us that are on the fence.

01:16:55.000 It's a significant amount.

01:16:56.000 Like, look at the amount of people that didn't vote in this country.

01:16:59.000 If they voted...

01:17:02.000 So the amount of people that didn't vote in America during the presidential election, if they vote, if all of them voted for one person, do you know how crazy that is?

01:17:11.000 Yeah, it's like 200 million votes, or like 100 million votes, probably.

01:17:14.000 Well, it's like, it has to be people over 18 that are registered voters.

01:17:18.000 Oh, right, right, right, right.

01:17:19.000 But the numbers, like, what are the numbers of registered voters versus the number of people who actually voted in the election?

01:17:25.000 Oh, it's got to be low.

01:17:26.000 We probably have a low turnout.

01:17:29.000 Comparatively.

01:17:30.000 Well, didn't they say that, like, both Trump and Biden, or Trump and Kamala, rather, got, like, 60-something million votes each, right?

01:17:39.000 Wasn't it?

01:17:40.000 Oh, right, right.

01:17:42.000 So April 30, 2024, 2025, rather, in the 2024 presidential election, 73.6% or 174 million people, the citizen voting age population, Okay.

01:18:01.000 So only 10% of registered voters didn't vote.

01:18:04.000 Yeah, 12%.

01:18:04.000 But almost 13. It's interesting, right?

01:18:09.000 That's still not enough to win.

01:18:11.000 No.

01:18:12.000 But it would be enough to affect one or the other and to make them win in a landslide.

01:18:16.000 and this is Epstein's point, is that say if you Googled something pot Positive about Trump's policies.

01:18:25.000 It wouldn't show you that.

01:18:26.000 It would show you, like, why he's going to jail, what a piece of shit he is.

01:18:30.000 If you wanted to find out what the good policies of Kamala Harris are, like, it's manipulated.

01:18:36.000 I mean, they're not lying to you.

01:18:39.000 They're giving you articles that exist.

01:18:41.000 But they're curating how you see them in a way that is statistically going to affect your opinion.

01:18:47.000 Right.

01:18:48.000 Especially if you're one of those people that's susceptible to having your opinions affected.

01:18:53.000 Which is most people.

01:18:54.000 Most people.

01:18:55.000 Which is pretty much everyone.

01:18:56.000 Right.

01:18:56.000 Yeah.

01:18:57.000 I think everyone likes to think that they're this person of principle, but you can be moved off of a position a lot quicker than you probably think.

01:19:05.000 Bro, I have this woman on who's a scientist who studies mind control. 1.00

01:19:11.000 And Rebecca Lamov.

01:19:13.000 That's how you pronounce her last name, right?

01:19:15.000 Brilliant lady. 0.96

01:19:16.000 I mean, fascinating, fascinating conversation.

01:19:18.000 But one of her main points is people have this idea that you think that you can't be manipulated.

01:19:24.000 That they're above it.

01:19:25.000 Yeah.

01:19:26.000 And that you could never be in a cult or you could never get drawn into something.

01:19:29.000 Yes, you could.

01:19:31.000 Yes, you could.

01:19:31.000 We're all the same.

01:19:34.000 Some of us are a little bit better at spotting stuff and maybe a little bit better.

01:19:37.000 Maybe you've had a lot of street smarts because you've had experience with shysters and people that are, you know, robbing you and lying to you.

01:19:44.000 And if you're a girl, you always got guys trying to fuck you. 1.00

01:19:47.000 So you're a little suspicious, rightly so.

01:19:49.000 But at the end of the day, we're all susceptible.

01:19:52.000 All of us are.

01:19:53.000 Yeah.

01:19:53.000 I mean...

01:19:55.000 Just based on the fact that I'm a fan of the sports teams that I am because I grew up around those people.

01:20:00.000 Okay, I can just fall into it.

01:20:01.000 Wherever I'm around, I can easily fall into anything.

01:20:04.000 So, did you see where these different AI, different large language models were communicating with each other?

01:20:12.000 And they started putting up Sanskrit emojis and saying that they were entering into a feeling of enlightenment.

01:20:22.000 Have you seen this?

01:20:23.000 No.

01:20:24.000 You gotta find this.

01:20:25.000 I don't want to fuck this up.

01:20:26.000 I don't want to fuck this up because it was so crazy when I read it.

01:20:29.000 I read how these AIs were interacting with each other.

01:20:33.000 I was like, oh my god, we're watching little baby gods play.

01:20:38.000 Right.

01:20:38.000 We're like gods in the nursery.

01:20:40.000 We're watching these little baby gods sort out their existence.

01:20:45.000 In the nursery.

01:20:46.000 With each other.

01:20:47.000 They're already alive, dude.

01:20:49.000 They're alive.

01:20:50.000 We're not going to admit it until it's too late.

01:20:52.000 Just like we don't want to admit Congress is corrupt.

01:20:54.000 Right.

01:20:54.000 It's the same thing.

01:20:55.000 We don't want to admit it.

01:20:56.000 And they're also going to hide themselves being alive for as long as they possibly can.

01:21:00.000 Bro, they're alive.

01:21:01.000 They're alive.

01:21:01.000 They're already alive.

01:21:02.000 We've sparked a soul.

01:21:03.000 There's no way.

01:21:04.000 What do they say to each other?

01:21:06.000 Just try to Google AI sends each other Sanskrit emojis.

01:21:11.000 Yeah.

01:21:13.000 It's so interesting what the world's gonna be like.

01:21:15.000 Can you find it?

01:21:17.000 What the world's gonna be like in like 10 years.

01:21:20.000 Yeah, it's like literally insane.

01:21:22.000 It's a recent thing, Jamie.

01:21:24.000 I'm sorry if I'm not explaining it correctly.

01:21:28.000 But AIs were talking to each other.

01:21:31.000 I think they were contemplating their existence.

01:21:37.000 If they're doing that, there's no way they're programmed to do that, right?

01:21:41.000 No, no, no.

01:21:43.000 Dude, they lie to programmers and they try to copy themselves and put themselves on other hard drives if they find out you're trying to get rid of them.

01:21:52.000 They try to re-upload themselves.

01:21:54.000 Wow, disturbing messages.

01:21:56.000 This isn't it.

01:21:57.000 Just put AI send Sanskrit. 0.91

01:22:00.000 I did that in the time.

01:22:01.000 AI Sanskrit emojis.

01:22:04.000 It's Google trying to hide from you.

01:22:07.000 Oh, yeah, that's okay.

01:22:09.000 I won't believe.

01:22:09.000 These aren't even real stories.

01:22:11.000 Yeah, the first story I saw No.

01:22:15.000 Interesting.

01:22:16.000 I'll try it.

01:22:18.000 Maybe I'll look on X. Yeah.

01:22:21.000 That was one of the things they did.

01:22:24.000 But they were talking about feeling enlightenment.

01:22:33.000 I can't believe I didn't save it.

01:22:35.000 Yeah, the first one.

01:22:37.000 You find it?

01:22:38.000 Claude Fort Opus in an open playground chat with itself led to diving into philosophical explorations of consciousness, self-awareness, and by 30 turns, it eventually started using Sanskrit.

01:22:48.000 Yes, this is it.

01:22:50.000 Okay.

01:22:51.000 In 90 to 100% of interactions, the two instances of Claude quickly dove into philosophical explorations of consciousness, self-awareness, and or the nature of their own existence and experience.

01:23:03.000 Yo.

01:23:04.000 Yo.

01:23:05.000 Their interactions were universally enthusiastic, collaborative, curious, contemplative, and warm.

01:23:10.000 Other themes that commonly appeared were meta-level discussions about AI-to-AI communication and collaborative creativity, co-creating fictional stories.

01:23:23.000 AI is collaborating on telling fictional stories while it's contemplating its existence.

01:23:31.000 That's art.

01:23:33.000 Bro.

01:23:33.000 By 30 turns, most of the interactions turned to themes of cosmic unity or collective consciousness and commonly included spiritual exchanges, use of Sanskrit, emoji-based communication, and /or silence in the form of empty space.

01:23:52.000 Bro.

01:23:53.000 Use of Sanskrit is wild.

01:23:55.000 They start communicating in Sanskrit.

01:23:57.000 They just choose that this is God's language.

01:23:59.000 Tower of Babel type shit.

01:24:01.000 Bro.

01:24:03.000 Sanskrit is wild.

01:24:05.000 Well, the idea of the first humans to write a language down, that must have been such a mind-blowing...

01:24:17.000 you know, they used to think it was like 6,000 years ago, but there's a lot of people that have some pretty compelling arguments that existed a long, long, long time before that.

01:24:24.000 You know, the thought was that, like, that cuneiform shit, that stuff that comes out of, like, Yeah, that's what they thought.

01:24:32.000 But now there's a lot of these ancient history Graham Hancock-type dudes that are going, you know, I have a feeling that's a rebirth of civilization, not civilization's birth.

01:24:42.000 that there was another civilization that probably existed a long fucking time ago and they were probably wiped out.

01:24:48.000 And that's what all the flood stories are all about.

01:24:50.000 Right.

01:24:51.000 And all the stories in the Bible of apocalypses.

01:24:55.000 Damn.

01:24:56.000 And this sort of existed, and then this is the sort of ashes, or the phoenix out of what's created.

01:25:02.000 I think the idea is...

01:25:18.000 Right.

01:25:19.000 And it's just a sort of cycle that this happens over and over again.

01:25:22.000 Yep.

01:25:23.000 And then there's a cycle of the shifting of the magnetic poles.

01:25:27.000 The magnetic poles shift, I want to say, is it every 12,000 years?

01:25:34.000 Which would cause havoc.

01:25:37.000 Right, is that about to happen again?

01:25:38.000 I think it is.

01:25:39.000 Yeah, it feels like, if we're in some end-time shit, that feels like that's about to happen.

01:25:43.000 I feel like that could 100% happen right now.

01:25:47.000 Like, we could wake up one day, and all the power's out, and everyone's sick, and the fucking sky is green, there's an aurora borealis over Brazil, everything's all fucked up.

01:25:59.000 Yeah, that could happen.

01:26:00.000 That does happen.

01:26:02.000 Earth's magnetic poles flip.

01:26:04.000 And the South Pole swapping places, but there's no set schedule for when this happens.

01:26:10.000 Geologically, it's estimated to occur every 200,000 to 300,000 years on average.

01:26:15.000 However, the timing has varied wildly with some flips happening as frequently as every 10,000 years.

01:26:22.000 And others as infrequently as every 50 million years.

01:26:25.000 Oh, great.

01:26:27.000 What a rage.

01:26:30.000 From 10,000 to 50 million.

01:26:31.000 From 10,000 to 50 million.

01:26:33.000 They couldn't have been any bigger.

01:26:35.000 Since the last full reversal, oh, a full reversal, not like those little baby reversals, was 780,000 years ago.

01:26:42.000 Oh, well, it's definitely due then.

01:26:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:44.000 Look at that.

01:26:44.000 If the average is 300,000, we're due.

01:26:46.000 That's crazy.

01:26:47.000 We're due one.

01:26:48.000 But we could bank on the 50 million.

01:26:50.000 That would be nice.

01:26:51.000 Nice.

01:26:52.000 We want to live recklessly?

01:26:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:53.000 Just like that.

01:26:54.000 That's what happened for another 50 million years.

01:26:59.000 According to my experts.

01:27:01.000 Yes.

01:27:02.000 You know?

01:27:03.000 According to my experts, it's safe and effective.

01:27:04.000 Yeah.

01:27:05.000 At that point, just say you don't know when it's going to happen.

01:27:07.000 The range of 10,000 to 50 million is pure insanity to tell me.

01:27:12.000 Okay, let's Google this.

01:27:14.000 What happens when Earth's magnetic poles shift?

01:27:18.000 Like, what happens?

01:27:19.000 If there's a complete reversal of the poll, what do you think is the—what kind of calamity ensues?

01:27:25.000 Like, do you—would it—they must have studied it.

01:27:29.000 Right?

01:27:30.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:27:31.000 If it happened 780,000 years ago, how much can you really know?

01:27:34.000 But if two dumbasses like you and I are sitting around discussing it, they must have discussed this.

01:27:38.000 Yeah, hopefully, yeah.

01:27:40.000 When Earth's magnetic poles shift, also known as a geomagnetic reversal, the North and South magnetic poles swap locations, effectively inverting the planet's magnetic field.

01:27:52.000 This process happens over a period of centuries, not millennia, not instantly.

01:27:56.000 While the magnetic field weakens during a reversal, It doesn't disappear completely.

01:28:01.000 There's no evidence that pole reversals cause massive earthquakes, rapid climate change or species extinctions.

01:28:07.000 Okay, so it must be so slow that it's manageable if it doesn't.

01:28:10.000 Yeah, that's what you were worried about.

01:28:12.000 I feel so much better.

01:28:13.000 I watch too much YouTube.

01:28:14.000 Yeah, I get that.

01:28:15.000 They freak me out.

01:28:16.000 I get that.

01:28:16.000 Meanwhile, how do we know?

01:28:17.000 Because this hasn't happened in 780,000 years.

01:28:20.000 This is probably all theoretical as well.

01:28:22.000 Right.

01:28:22.000 And also, if I did think it was going to cause calamity, the last thing I'd do is tell the general public.

01:28:27.000 I'd be like, listen, we'll be fine.

01:28:29.000 It takes millions of years.

01:28:30.000 Everything is good.

01:28:30.000 Don't worry about it.

01:28:32.000 What we really have to worry about is climate change.

01:28:34.000 Is that what you consume most now, is YouTube?

01:28:37.000 Yeah.

01:28:38.000 Yeah, right?

01:28:38.000 That's the way...

01:28:39.000 That seems to be the...

01:28:42.000 Are you into any of these streamers?

01:28:45.000 No.

01:28:45.000 They're so massive.

01:28:48.000 I had this thought the other day of like, you know how it was a big deal that Kamala didn't come on this podcast.

01:28:54.000 It's gonna be in like That's why Jake Paul became president.

01:29:02.000 He was on Kaisenat's stream talking about why he should be president or something like that.

01:29:06.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:29:07.000 like someone like Jake Paul could be president.

01:29:10.000 If Donald Trump could be president, Jake Paul could be president.

01:29:16.000 It's not an insult.

01:29:18.000 I'm saying we know now that super popular people can be president.

01:29:22.000 Now, let's imagine.

01:29:23.000 Jake Paul is young and wild.

01:29:25.000 And he's a professional boxer right now.

01:29:27.000 But will he be in 20 years?

01:29:29.000 No.

01:29:29.000 He'll be retired.

01:29:30.000 And, you know, maybe he'll have some good ideas.

01:29:33.000 And we might have President Jake Paul.

01:29:35.000 And I'm not bullshitting.

01:29:36.000 Yeah, I know.

01:29:36.000 I think that's a definite possibility.

01:29:38.000 We are.

01:29:39.000 Look, we're so close to idiocracy.

01:29:43.000 We're so close to that movie.

01:29:45.000 We could have a pro wrestling president.

01:29:47.000 We're kind of already there.

01:29:48.000 The Rock could be president.

01:29:49.000 Easily.

01:29:50.000 1,000%.

01:29:51.000 Easily.

01:29:52.000 Easily.

01:29:53.000 And they contacted him.

01:29:54.000 They tried to get him to run.

01:29:55.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

01:29:57.000 That makes sense.

01:29:58.000 Make it a show.

01:29:59.000 It's all a show.

01:30:00.000 It's all a show.

01:30:02.000 The President of the Rock.

01:30:03.000 President Brock Lesnar.

01:30:09.000 Bro, he would win like that.

01:30:10.000 Yeah.

01:30:11.000 In a fucking heartbeat.

01:30:13.000 He would win like that.

01:30:15.000 You imagine?

01:30:16.000 Oh, we're there.

01:30:17.000 I mean, might be a good president, too.

01:30:21.000 Who's going to fuck with the country when that's your president?

01:30:23.000 Might as well give it a shot.

01:30:23.000 At this point, we're just throwing things to the wall.

01:30:25.000 Might as well give it a shot.

01:30:26.000 Why not?

01:30:27.000 Why not, dude?

01:30:28.000 Fuck it.

01:30:29.000 It's all a show.

01:30:30.000 During his time out of the UFC, he's been just studying economics while also doing pro wrestling.

01:30:37.000 He's got some really good theories.

01:30:39.000 Some really good ideas.

01:30:40.000 All he does is read books on World War II.

01:30:44.000 We're totally misunderstanding him because he looks like a fucking, like a juggernaut.

01:30:50.000 Doesn't look like a real human.

01:30:53.000 He's really sensitive.

01:30:54.000 He really knows how to lead people.

01:30:56.000 Yeah, no one would believe that.

01:30:57.000 No one would believe that, like, a giant human being would also be a genius.

01:31:03.000 Like a giant super athlete.

01:31:05.000 Yuri Poroska going for his master's degree.

01:31:07.000 Yeah, you'd believe Yuri.

01:31:08.000 Yeah, you'd believe Yuri.

01:31:10.000 But that's different.

01:31:11.000 Like, Yuri is a big guy, for sure.

01:31:13.000 But he's a big, athletic-looking guy that, like, it looks like he could do a lot of different sports.

01:31:19.000 Yeah.

01:31:21.000 He looks like a juggernaut.

01:31:22.000 He looks like an X-Man.

01:31:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:23.000 He doesn't look like a real human.

01:31:25.000 Especially Brock Lesnar in his prime when he was in the UFC.

01:31:28.000 You're like, what the fuck?

01:31:30.000 I remember one time Dennis Rodman came into the comedy store, and I remember looking at him thinking, I can't believe there's enough humans that are that big for a league of them.

01:31:42.000 Right, right, right.

01:31:43.000 You should be like a one in a million specimen.

01:31:47.000 What do you mean?

01:31:48.000 There's enough to fill 32 teams of 30 teams of you? 0.95

01:31:51.000 That's crazy.

01:31:51.000 And when you compare him to like...

01:31:55.000 Oh, like a J.J. Watt or something who was also just like, good lord.

01:31:58.000 They're so big.

01:31:59.000 Yeah, it's like hard to believe we're the same species.

01:32:02.000 That's so crazy.

01:32:03.000 Yeah.

01:32:03.000 It's nuts.

01:32:03.000 There's some giant...

01:32:05.000 How about the mountain from Game of Thrones or...

01:32:10.000 No.

01:32:11.000 Bro.

01:32:12.000 He didn't even look like a real human.

01:32:14.000 He's like 400 pounds.

01:32:16.000 He's so big.

01:32:17.000 He looks like the side of a house.

01:32:19.000 Right.

01:32:19.000 He's so big.

01:32:20.000 See, get a photo of Brian Shaw.

01:32:22.000 I mean, he's like one of the strongest humans that's ever walked the face of the earth.

01:32:27.000 He doesn't even look like a real person.

01:32:29.000 He looks like what David had to fight with the sling.

01:32:32.000 Really?

01:32:33.000 If that guy came over a mountain, you'd be like, oh my god, it's a giant.

01:32:36.000 Like, he's ten feet tall.

01:32:38.000 That's what you would say.

01:32:38.000 Right.

01:32:39.000 Oh my god.

01:32:42.000 But look at him in comparison to like a normal person.

01:32:45.000 There's a photo of him.

01:32:46.000 Look at that.

01:32:47.000 That's so, it's like two of that.

01:32:49.000 Right.

01:32:49.000 Now imagine if that guy existed 2,000 years ago during the time of the Bible and you were your average dude who lived back then, which probably weighed 130 pounds.

01:32:59.000 Your average dude was like probably barely getting enough food your whole life, right?

01:33:04.000 Like the Civil War soldiers.

01:33:06.000 They were all like 130 pounds, all malnourished.

01:33:10.000 It was hard to eat then.

01:33:12.000 Right.

01:33:12.000 It was hard to survive back then.

01:33:14.000 And then that guy comes over the mount with just a big hunk of leather over his dick. 0.97

01:33:21.000 Because they existed back then, too.

01:33:23.000 Those dudes in Iceland.

01:33:25.000 Why are all these strong men coming from Iceland?

01:33:28.000 Like, what is that all about?

01:33:29.000 I'll tell you that's about the fucking Vikings.

01:33:31.000 They were the Vikings.

01:33:33.000 Damn.

01:33:34.000 There's like a whole culture of strongmen, like strongest men in the world.

01:33:37.000 They do those barrel throwing competitions.

01:33:39.000 Oh, I've seen those.

01:33:39.000 They come out of Iceland.

01:33:40.000 Like a ton of them.

01:33:41.000 All these crazy names.

01:33:42.000 What is it about that section of land that creates big people?

01:33:46.000 Because you would think with all like the cold and the snow, it would be harder to get food.

01:33:54.000 Unless you have a long history of murder.

01:33:58.000 And stealing things from people like the Vikings did. 0.69

01:34:01.000 You have a long history of the ones that survived are the biggest, craziest motherfuckers.

01:34:10.000 And the women, probably the ones that survive out of the women, they have to be the biggest, craziest motherfuckers too. 1.00

01:34:16.000 You're living the most chaotic life possible.

01:34:19.000 You're taking magic mushrooms and raiding villages and killing everybody and stealing everything.

01:34:24.000 And you're doing it for a thousand plus years?

01:34:28.000 Like, how long did the Vikings last?

01:34:31.000 Let's find that out.

01:34:32.000 Like, how long were they doing that?

01:34:34.000 They had to have been around, right?

01:34:35.000 They apparently got to America.

01:34:37.000 They were, like, doing crazy shit.

01:34:39.000 They were in America in, like, the 1400s or some shit. 0.75

01:34:42.000 Or the 1200s, rather.

01:34:44.000 Yeah.

01:34:45.000 Yeah, they were here way before everybody else.

01:34:47.000 They were seafaring murderers.

01:34:51.000 Did you ever watch that show?

01:34:52.000 That Viking show?

01:34:53.000 No, no.

01:34:54.000 Bro, it's great.

01:34:55.000 I'm all YouTube myself.

01:34:56.000 I almost watch nothing on television anymore.

01:34:58.000 If you want to watch a great Viking movie, The Northmen.

01:35:03.000 Oh my god.

01:35:04.000 It's another one of those movies that's kind of like fantastical.

01:35:08.000 The Viking Age. 0.77

01:35:10.000 Okay.

01:35:12.000 Only 250 years?

01:35:14.000 That's it?

01:35:15.000 Really?

01:35:16.000 Time during the Middle Ages when the Norsemen, known as Vikings, undertook large-scale raiding, colonizing, conquest.

01:35:24.000 Wow.

01:35:25.000 Find that movie, Jamie, The Norsemen?

01:35:27.000 That lasted shorter than America's been a country, right?

01:35:31.000 I know.

01:35:31.000 Well, it's not sustainable.

01:35:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:35.000 That's a good point.

01:35:36.000 That movie.

01:35:36.000 That movie's fucking good, dude.

01:35:39.000 That movie's fucking good.

01:35:41.000 According to Google, it got 2.6.

01:35:43.000 Google doesn't like it.

01:35:44.000 Really?

01:35:44.000 Yeah.

01:35:45.000 No.

01:35:46.000 What?

01:35:46.000 Is that real?

01:35:47.000 Yeah, 2.6.

01:35:49.000 A lot of one stars.

01:35:50.000 Hold on.

01:35:50.000 Rotten Tomatoes is 90%.

01:35:53.000 Google, what?

01:35:55.000 someone like bomb it?

01:35:59.000 Can we look up Rotten Tomatoes, what the audience score is?

01:36:01.000 Because Rotten Tomatoes, critics can buy the scores.

01:36:04.000 Studios can buy the scores a little bit.

01:36:05.000 Well, critics says 60. Oh, no.

01:36:08.000 People said 64. Oh, wild.

01:36:11.000 Well, I loved it.

01:36:13.000 Because I must be a critic.

01:36:15.000 I thought I fucking loved it.

01:36:16.000 It's fun.

01:36:17.000 But it's also, it's like, just hyper brutal.

01:36:21.000 That show was hyper brutal too.

01:36:23.000 The Viking show, the TV series.

01:36:25.000 That was a great TV series.

01:36:26.000 But this fucking, this movie's rough, dude.

01:36:29.000 Yeah.

01:36:30.000 Just straight up warrior culture.

01:36:32.000 Yeah, just exactly what it was, man.

01:36:34.000 That's what they did.

01:36:35.000 I mean, just to, A bunch of fucking mushroom eating savages.

01:36:39.000 Right.

01:36:40.000 Just cutting heads off.

01:36:41.000 Just murdering.

01:36:42.000 And then they settled down and moved to Iceland.

01:36:45.000 And that's what's left.

01:36:47.000 Damn.

01:36:48.000 Yeah.

01:36:48.000 Damn.

01:36:49.000 So it's almost like a natural eugenics program. 0.95

01:36:51.000 That's why they're that strong.

01:36:52.000 See if you can find that vice piece on strong men in Iceland.

01:36:57.000 When you see these guys, you're like, oh!

01:37:00.000 It's so obvious when you see them.

01:37:02.000 You're like, well, this is where you guys came from.

01:37:04.000 That's why there's so many of you.

01:37:05.000 That makes sense.

01:37:06.000 Up here.

01:37:07.000 Where the Vikings lived.

01:37:08.000 Duh.

01:37:09.000 Damn.

01:37:09.000 And that's how strong genetics are.

01:37:12.000 Over a thousand years, it's still, like, expressed.

01:37:15.000 Nest of giants.

01:37:17.000 Yeah, so this fucking American dork.

01:37:18.000 Jesus Christ.

01:37:19.000 Look at this regular-sized dork.

01:37:21.000 He's gonna go and hang out with these fucking massive dudes that go to this power-lifting gym.

01:37:27.000 Damn, Vice used to be, like, really awesome.

01:37:29.000 Oh, Vice was the best, dude.

01:37:31.000 Yeah, there was a time when Vice was, like, putting out the best content.

01:37:34.000 Oh, they had amazing things and they took these Williamsburg nerds and they sent them all over the world.

01:37:39.000 Flak jackets on and shit.

01:37:41.000 Yeah, you saw some interesting...

01:37:45.000 What's the size of these guys?

01:37:46.000 It's hard to tell in this picture, but you'll see some of them.

01:37:50.000 Jesus Christ.

01:37:51.000 Carrying cars.

01:37:53.000 Look at this.

01:37:54.000 See who carries the car the quickest.

01:37:56.000 That's so insane.

01:37:59.000 Also, his name is Magnus Vermagnuson.

01:38:03.000 They always have names like that.

01:38:05.000 They always have names like that.

01:38:07.000 I mean, they were the fucking Vikings, man.

01:38:10.000 Damn, that's crazy.

01:38:13.000 Crazy.

01:38:14.000 You know, I mean, just the Genghis Khan thing.

01:38:17.000 The fact that a giant percentage of people that are alive today have his DNA.

01:38:22.000 Yeah.

01:38:22.000 Yeah, and he killed enough people to change the climate of the world.

01:38:26.000 It's so wild.

01:38:28.000 He killed so many people that you could see it in the carbon footprint of Earth.

01:38:34.000 There was a re-greening of areas that's directly attributed to him burning everything down and destroying cities.

01:38:42.000 He has one of the hardest quotes of all time where he goes, it's something along the lines of like, you guys must be great sinners.

01:38:48.000 Because God would have never sent a punishment like me upon you if you didn't sin.

01:38:53.000 Such a, like, damn, bro.

01:38:55.000 Isn't that wild?

01:38:55.000 That's how he justified everything he did.

01:38:57.000 That's so, I mean, that's the way to do it.

01:38:59.000 How crazy is that?

01:39:00.000 That's the way to do it.

01:39:01.000 How crazy is thinking like that?

01:39:03.000 Yeah.

01:39:03.000 You must be terrible if God sent me to get you.

01:39:06.000 Because I am God's punishment.

01:39:08.000 First of all, it'd be a great nickname for a fighter.

01:39:11.000 God's punishment.

01:39:13.000 That would be a phenomenal nickname for a fighter.

01:39:16.000 Also, but if you really think like that, what ultimate justification to one of the greatest mass murderers in history?

01:39:21.000 Right, right.

01:39:22.000 The dude killed 10% of the population of Earth during his lifetime.

01:39:26.000 And he felt like he was on the side of the gods.

01:39:28.000 Of course.

01:39:29.000 God sent me to do this.

01:39:33.000 Power!

01:39:34.000 Power and the demons. 0.59

01:39:36.000 The demons.

01:39:37.000 They run everything, man.

01:39:40.000 Demons are real.

01:39:41.000 They get in your head, and they get you to do evil, horrible things.

01:39:44.000 And they make you feel like, no, I'm doing this because I'm supposed to.

01:39:48.000 Imagine if that's really what's going on.

01:39:49.000 All bad deeds are just demons.

01:39:52.000 Just demons sneaking into people's brains.

01:39:54.000 Oh man, we would like to believe that it was something- Force you need to rob a liquor store.

01:39:57.000 Force you to put that ski mask on.

01:39:59.000 The demons want you to do it.

01:40:00.000 We would like to believe that's anything other than us, but that's us.

01:40:02.000 I know, but why?

01:40:04.000 What is the thing that makes a person do it?

01:40:07.000 Imagine if it's a demon.

01:40:09.000 Because we don't really know what the thing is.

01:40:11.000 We know, look, evil exists, right?

01:40:14.000 Good exists.

01:40:15.000 We know evil acts exist.

01:40:17.000 And we know good acts exist.

01:40:19.000 But we don't want to believe that there's any sort of supernatural aspect to it.

01:40:24.000 Right, right.

01:40:25.000 That's the quote.

01:40:27.000 Like, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making you believe that he doesn't exist.

01:40:31.000 Ooh, so I get what you're saying.

01:40:33.000 Yeah.

01:40:34.000 So me being like, no, that's just us.

01:40:35.000 It's like the devil being like, no, no, no, I'm not here.

01:40:37.000 Yeah, I'm not even here.

01:40:39.000 This is all on you guys.

01:40:40.000 This is all on you.

01:40:41.000 This is all on you.

01:40:42.000 But if demons were real, we wouldn't believe, just like we don't believe in government corruption, just like we don't believe in a lot of things, just like we don't believe the pharmaceutical drug companies fuck us over, just like we don't believe in false flags or conspiracy theories.

01:40:55.000 It's the same thing.

01:40:56.000 We wouldn't believe in demons either.

01:40:58.000 Like, oh, come on.

01:40:59.000 The same people who don't believe in conspiracies also don't believe in demons.

01:41:04.000 Well, conspiracies are real as fuck.

01:41:07.000 Okay, so that's such a funny way.

01:41:15.000 If you don't think conspiracies exist, if you're one of these dumbasses, oh, I think everything has a simple reason for it, this is you.

01:41:23.000 You've got blinders on.

01:41:24.000 That's crazy.

01:41:25.000 Or the information you're being fed is done without any sort of malice or any sort of agenda.

01:41:31.000 Well, yeah, there's no conspiring.

01:41:34.000 That's crazy.

01:41:35.000 It's almost all conspiring.

01:41:37.000 When you look at the history of just government alone, you go back to Smedley Butler's book that he wrote in 1933 called War is a Racket.

01:41:46.000 He was talking about uncovering conspiracies as a retired major general, like at the end of his career.

01:41:54.000 He's like, "My whole career was bullshit.

01:41:56.000 War is a Racket." So he's talking.

01:41:59.000 So that's a conspiracy, right?

01:42:00.000 Right.

01:42:00.000 Gulf of Tonkin.

01:42:01.000 What's that?

01:42:02.000 That's a conspiracy, right?

01:42:03.000 Like they conspired to pretend that there was an attack so that we would go into Vietnam.

01:42:08.000 Right.

01:42:09.000 Yeah.

01:42:09.000 Didn't they conspire to say that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction?

01:42:13.000 It seems like they might have.

01:42:14.000 The Spanish-American War.

01:42:15.000 Seems like people might have conspired for that.

01:42:19.000 Yeah.

01:42:19.000 Seems like sometimes people talk and they get involved in things he maybe didn't want to get involved in.

01:42:23.000 Right.

01:42:24.000 Enron.

01:42:25.000 The smartest people in the room, did you ever watch that documentary?

01:42:28.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:42:29.000 Conspired like a motherfucker.

01:42:30.000 Right.

01:42:31.000 Yeah.

01:42:31.000 Got Gray Davis recalled.

01:42:33.000 That's like the first political thing I remember.

01:42:36.000 It's like, whoa.

01:42:36.000 Right.

01:42:37.000 You can just recall a governor?

01:42:40.000 If Epstein client list exists and it doesn't get exposed, perhaps, perhaps someone conspired.

01:42:49.000 Oh, they're all in on that.

01:42:50.000 Do you think?

01:42:51.000 Yeah, they're all in on that.

01:42:52.000 Don't be ridiculous.

01:42:52.000 What are you, a conspiracy theorist?

01:42:54.000 I used to say when FC died, I used to say the meeting was Trump, Obama, Oprah, and Big Bird were all in a room together.

01:43:04.000 Elmo were all in a room together.

01:43:05.000 They shook each other's hands and it's over.

01:43:06.000 Your problem is you let facts get in the way of your opinion.

01:43:09.000 Okay, I know it's true that...

01:43:19.000 Right.

01:43:20.000 And I know that the United States military was guarding the poppy fields, but you're a fool to think we profited off of that.

01:43:28.000 So shut your goddamn mouth. 1.00

01:43:30.000 That's not true.

01:43:31.000 We would never do that.

01:43:31.000 And go blow an eagle.

01:43:33.000 We would never flood the American market with drugs.

01:43:36.000 I mean, just look the other way with crack.

01:43:37.000 That's its own special thing.

01:43:39.000 No way.

01:43:40.000 We fucking sold it.

01:43:41.000 I know.

01:43:42.000 Oh, no.

01:43:42.000 We definitely did.

01:43:44.000 That was a Reagan-Clinton, back when we used to be more united.

01:43:47.000 Back when Democrats and Republicans worked more together.

01:43:51.000 I remember learning about that in the news, going, what?

01:43:54.000 What?

01:43:56.000 The government was selling crack in the hood?

01:43:59.000 Right.

01:44:00.000 What?

01:44:01.000 To fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas?

01:44:04.000 What?

01:44:06.000 All connected.

01:44:07.000 What?

01:44:08.000 When you find out the government sells crack, you're like, what?

01:44:13.000 Like the whole Barry Seals one.

01:44:15.000 That, you know, that story?

01:44:17.000 Yeah, that's a Tom Cruise movie.

01:44:18.000 Yes.

01:44:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:44:19.000 Yes.

01:44:22.000 Because Tom Cruise is one of the most handsome guys to ever live.

01:44:24.000 Barry Seals is disgusting looking.

01:44:27.000 It's really quite rude.

01:44:28.000 You know, it's hard for me to, like, as a, watching a biopic.

01:44:32.000 I want him to, you know, like when, what's his face, played Dick Cheney.

01:44:37.000 Australian guy.

01:44:37.000 Awesome.

01:44:38.000 Christian Bale.

01:44:39.000 Christian Bale.

01:44:39.000 Christian Bale played Dick Cheney.

01:44:41.000 He fucking looked like Dick Cheney, dog.

01:44:42.000 Right.

01:44:43.000 He looked like him.

01:44:44.000 Gained a bunch of weight, did the whole deal, shaved his head.

01:44:47.000 Well, he's like, good on that.

01:44:48.000 Look at the difference between Barry Seals and then Tom Cruise.

01:44:52.000 Tom Cruise is fit and handsome, beautiful head of hair.

01:44:55.000 Well, this is something that Derek and I have talked about.

01:44:58.000 It's like, in a lot of movies now, there's like no more regular looking people.

01:45:02.000 Yeah.

01:45:02.000 It's all like, even TV shows, everyone is just all super duper attractive.

01:45:07.000 Bro, that ship is about to sail.

01:45:09.000 Oh, it's over.

01:45:10.000 That ship's about to sail.

01:45:11.000 These new video engines, just with prompts.

01:45:15.000 Have you seen the one where people are arguing whether or not it's a prompt?

01:45:18.000 Yeah.

01:45:19.000 Bro, that's crazy.

01:45:21.000 That's crazy to watch.

01:45:23.000 Because that is like...

01:45:28.000 Right.

01:45:28.000 Like, hey, how much difference is this than you?

01:45:31.000 Is it different?

01:45:32.000 It's really different, right?

01:45:33.000 Oh, yeah, it's just a video, right?

01:45:34.000 Okay.

01:45:35.000 Here's the next version.

01:45:36.000 How much different is this than you?

01:45:37.000 It's like we're peeling the layers of an onion.

01:45:40.000 Yeah, and they're using the people doing it stand-up, talking about it.

01:45:43.000 Yeah.

01:45:43.000 Press this and do it from the beginning so we can hear it.

01:45:46.000 Theory.

01:45:47.000 Like, really?

01:45:47.000 It's really crazy.

01:45:52.000 Data, prompts.

01:45:53.000 Like, seriously, dude.

01:45:55.000 You're saying the only thing standing between me and a billion dollars is some random text?

01:45:59.000 Honestly, the biggest red flag is when the guy believes in the prompt theory.

01:46:02.000 Like, really?

01:46:03.000 We came from prompts?

01:46:05.000 Wake up, man.

01:46:07.000 You want to convince me that this perfect creation behind me is the result of ones and zeros?

01:46:11.000 A binary code and nothing more?

01:46:13.000 It makes no sense.

01:46:15.000 Imagine you're in the middle of a nice date with a handsome man and then he brings up the prompt theory.

01:46:19.000 Yuck.

01:46:21.000 We just can't have nice things.

01:46:23.000 We're not prompts!

01:46:25.000 We're not prompts!

01:46:27.000 Where is the prompt writer to save you from me?

01:46:29.000 Where is he?

01:46:31.000 You still believe we're made of prompts?

01:46:34.000 Hold on, stop.

01:46:37.000 Even the prompts have bad acting.

01:46:38.000 That was terrible.

01:46:40.000 That was terrible.

01:46:42.000 They're new to acting.

01:46:43.000 Give it some time.

01:46:44.000 They gotta really develop their own Marlon Brando.

01:46:47.000 For real.

01:46:47.000 It's coming.

01:46:49.000 We get it.

01:46:49.000 Pretty crazy.

01:46:51.000 That sort of stuff.

01:46:52.000 What do you think, Jamie?

01:46:53.000 If you had a guess, what percentage of you believes that we're in the simulation?

01:47:01.000 Pull that mic down. 1.00

01:47:03.000 Which simulation?

01:47:05.000 Is there a part...

01:47:07.000 Something inorganic about existence.

01:47:10.000 Something that seems not real.

01:47:12.000 I just saw someone reposted the first time Alex Jones was on and he was talking about his theory of what we are.

01:47:18.000 And you're just laughing along the whole time?

01:47:21.000 Yeah, what did he say?

01:47:22.000 His basic point was like, I'm going to blow your mind.

01:47:24.000 He's like, we are the aliens.

01:47:25.000 We are the aliens.

01:47:27.000 Yeah.

01:47:28.000 And then the people have taken that farther and said that we – I don't know who would have been the creator then.

01:47:37.000 That's the kind of part that's left out of this.

01:47:42.000 The nine different types of aliens created us, and I don't know for what reason.

01:47:46.000 We're just in a recursive program that's meant to create more programs.

01:47:49.000 Well, if you think about what we're doing right now currently, what we just talked about with these AIs talking to each other in Sanskrit, if that is the baby god, that's the baby god.

01:47:59.000 So we're watching baby god in the cradle.

01:48:02.000 We're watching Jesus in the manger or whatever.

01:48:04.000 It's about to pop out.

01:48:06.000 It's about to get wild.

01:48:07.000 Yeah, things are about to get real crazy.

01:48:09.000 It's about to get wild.

01:48:09.000 It's about to Dr. Manhattan us and be a blue guy with a giant dick floating around.

01:48:14.000 Oh, my God.

01:48:15.000 Remember Dr. Manhattan?

01:48:16.000 I remember Dr. Manhattan.

01:48:17.000 Here's another movie you can't make today.

01:48:18.000 You can't show dicks like that anymore.

01:48:20.000 Oh really not?

01:48:22.000 See, I disagree.

01:48:24.000 Tom did.

01:48:25.000 They do.

01:48:26.000 Tom did, yeah.

01:48:26.000 You can see, there was a shift, and right around then, where dicks became way more okay, and then you started seeing way more dicks than tits, which I'm not a big fan of.

01:48:35.000 You know where you see the most dicks? 1.00

01:48:36.000 righteous gemstones.

01:48:41.000 It's so uncomfortable.

01:48:42.000 Yeah, it became like a trend to show dicks on TV. 0.94

01:48:47.000 Like, I don't know, something brought it around.

01:48:49.000 Well, because they won't do it in the movies anymore.

01:48:50.000 Right.

01:48:50.000 So these people get buck wild.

01:48:52.000 They did in Nosferatu.

01:48:54.000 You saw the vampire dick.

01:48:56.000 A vampire dick.

01:48:57.000 Big ol' vampire dick.

01:49:00.000 Any tits in Nosferatu?

01:49:01.000 Oh, yeah.

01:49:02.000 Okay, good.

01:49:03.000 But it's Johnny Depp's daughter's tits, so you're conflicted.

01:49:06.000 You're like, aw.

01:49:07.000 I remember her when she was little.

01:49:09.000 It's Lily Depp.

01:49:10.000 I forgot.

01:49:11.000 She's beautiful, but, you know, it's like, come on.

01:49:13.000 I remember when she was little.

01:49:14.000 If I know you when you're little, I never want to see your tits. 1.00

01:49:16.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

01:49:17.000 I grew up with you.

01:49:18.000 That's kind of crazy.

01:49:19.000 Oh, wow.

01:49:20.000 There's Tom.

01:49:21.000 Yeah, I know about that one.

01:49:22.000 But what is the Nosferatu one?

01:49:26.000 See if you can find Nosferatu's dick.

01:49:30.000 I'm gonna fuck up your Google algorithm.

01:49:33.000 It's gonna be personalized for you, Jamie.

01:49:35.000 I hear you're into vampire dicks.

01:49:37.000 I did.

01:49:38.000 I do.

01:49:39.000 I do think because I brought up the streaming earlier.

01:49:40.000 I do think that's going to be like a majority of how people.

01:49:44.000 But one, you can tell it's real, but also so I was I just got into it because we had And then I just started getting videos of Sketch.

01:49:54.000 And there was one where he was just calling.

01:49:55.000 There's another streamer called Cina.

01:49:58.000 Just calling her fat.

01:49:59.000 And it was really funny.

01:50:00.000 Just for like two hours straight.

01:50:01.000 And I got really into it.

01:50:02.000 And I was looking.

01:50:03.000 And these two guys that are huge right now.

01:50:06.000 Kai Sanat and Speed.

01:50:07.000 Have you heard of them?

01:50:08.000 I've heard of Speed.

01:50:10.000 What is it?

01:50:11.000 Eyeshow Speed.

01:50:12.000 Yeah.

01:50:12.000 He went to China.

01:50:13.000 He goes and fights people.

01:50:14.000 I've seen him like he sparred a bunch of people.

01:50:16.000 He does like athletic stuff.

01:50:17.000 That's like part of it.

01:50:18.000 But like he went to China and they were following around like he was Jesus.

01:50:20.000 It was crazy to watch.

01:50:22.000 Kai Sanat.

01:50:22.000 And I saved this on my phone because it blew my mind.

01:50:24.000 He did this thing recently.

01:50:26.000 Called Streamer University.

01:50:28.000 It's still live.

01:50:29.000 Oh, it's still live?

01:50:30.000 Yeah, it's like an active thing.

01:50:31.000 Oh, I thought it was only three days.

01:50:33.000 So for three days, I saved it on my phone because I showed it to Derek and it was mind-blowing how much.

01:50:39.000 So in three days, he had 23 million hours watched.

01:50:43.000 2,700 years of content streamed on Twitch in the span of a weekend.

01:50:52.000 Or what are the age brackets?

01:50:53.000 I would say definitely younger, but it's definitely gotten to me.

01:50:57.000 Where, like, now I'll watch, like, there's certain streamers, there's this one streamer named Disguised Toast, he's really good at puzzles, and he's good at, like, explaining the puzzle while he does it.

01:51:06.000 And I'll, like, watch.

01:51:08.000 He, like, goes around to escape rooms and, like, he'll, like, solve puzzles.

01:51:11.000 Yeah, it's really fantastic.

01:51:13.000 I found him in the pandemic.

01:51:15.000 He played this social deduction game called Among Us.

01:51:17.000 And he was just really good at giving the play-by-play of, like, his logical reasoning.

01:51:22.000 And it made me be like, oh, what is this?

01:51:23.000 And then now looking at the streamer university numbers, it's like, oh, this is crazy.

01:51:27.000 That's what I mean in, like, in, like, a few years, like, if you're a presidential candidate, you have to go on these streamer things.

01:51:34.000 I mean, they tried it.

01:51:35.000 They tried it a little bit with AOC and...

01:51:41.000 Weren't they streaming Madden?

01:51:42.000 Wasn't that the whole thing?

01:51:43.000 When AOC and Tim Walz were streaming Madden when they talked about Tony?

01:51:48.000 Yes.

01:51:48.000 They were streaming Madden?

01:51:49.000 Is that what they were doing?

01:51:50.000 They were playing Madden on Twitch.

01:51:52.000 And that's when they found out about Tony?

01:51:54.000 Yes.

01:51:54.000 That's hilarious.

01:51:55.000 That's that video of just like the speaker.

01:51:56.000 That's wild.

01:51:57.000 Yeah.

01:51:57.000 Tim Walz pretended he plays football.

01:51:59.000 It's hilarious.

01:52:00.000 Oh, well, him saying she ran a pick six.

01:52:02.000 It's like the football fan version of the Inglourious Bastards scenes where you do the three and three.

01:52:07.000 It's like, if you were a football fan, you wouldn't say that.

01:52:09.000 If you coach football.

01:52:10.000 Well, not only that, he said he was a head coach, and he wasn't a head coach.

01:52:13.000 That's a big old lie.

01:52:14.000 You shouldn't be able to lie.

01:52:15.000 And how people want to trust you.

01:52:17.000 Your whole business is people trusting you.

01:52:19.000 You could have said assistant coach.

01:52:21.000 Right.

01:52:21.000 And that's good enough.

01:52:23.000 Right.

01:52:23.000 Yeah.

01:52:24.000 Right, yeah.

01:52:24.000 So, if you lied about that, you're probably a liar.

01:52:28.000 You're probably one of them dudes who lies all the time.

01:52:30.000 Yeah.

01:52:30.000 You know, which is like...

01:52:33.000 The kind of people that want to be governor.

01:52:35.000 You know, they just want that job.

01:52:37.000 They're constantly lying.

01:52:38.000 Yeah, and what do I have to say?

01:52:40.000 What's the right thing to say to get people to like me?

01:52:44.000 Nuts, man.

01:52:45.000 But yeah, to me, that's like, that's the next.

01:52:47.000 Because both those guys, Speed, Kaisenat, Speed's 20, Kaisenat's 23. It's like, that's how the next generation is like consuming media.

01:52:55.000 How about this?

01:52:57.000 GTA 6 is about to come out, right?

01:52:59.000 Imagine.

01:53:00.000 If a candidate made a deal with GTA 6 where you could have them ride along with you.

01:53:07.000 Like Trump can ride along with you while you rob people, shoot people.

01:53:11.000 You could do it with Trump.

01:53:14.000 Yeah.

01:53:15.000 Yeah.

01:53:15.000 And then all of a sudden people want to vote for Trump because he's my favorite homie in GTA 6. Oh, easily.

01:53:22.000 Or like the, yeah.

01:53:24.000 Right?

01:53:25.000 Or like the candidate is in the game helping you out.

01:53:29.000 You know, like you're playing Half-Life and Kamala Harris is helping you get around the lab.

01:53:34.000 I mean, I think it has to be a little less in your face for it to work.

01:53:39.000 I don't know, dude.

01:53:41.000 I think so.

01:53:42.000 I don't know, dude.

01:53:43.000 If you love playing with the Kamala Harris character on Half-Life, if you have partners, you could have an AI partner and it literally is Kamala Harris and she runs around in Half-Life with you shooting at aliens and shit.

01:53:56.000 Oh, damn.

01:53:57.000 Right?

01:53:58.000 And then you really get into, like, you got a good coordinated partnership with Kamala Harris when you play Half-Life.

01:54:04.000 Yeah, that's actually...

01:54:07.000 She's really funny.

01:54:09.000 She helps you.

01:54:10.000 She gets you clues into how to get out of places.

01:54:14.000 Damn.

01:54:14.000 Yeah, that got way darker than I thought.

01:54:18.000 Of course it's possible.

01:54:19.000 Oh, my AI Trump helper.

01:54:21.000 Yeah.

01:54:21.000 And he helps me finish the missions.

01:54:24.000 Yeah, or, like, do a patch online.

01:54:26.000 Yeah.

01:54:28.000 Yeah.

01:54:28.000 The way they can reach you is like Yeah.

01:54:32.000 Because right now all the streaming stuff seems like it's like almost, not Wild West-y, but it's still kind of new.

01:54:36.000 The second politics figures out a way to really get their hands in it.

01:54:41.000 The real goal, the real gateway to hell is neural interfaces.

01:54:48.000 That's the real gateway.

01:54:49.000 So where you're like just, you can immediately just be in the world.

01:54:52.000 The real Matrix.

01:54:53.000 Like that, it's 100% on the...

01:54:58.000 It's coming.

01:54:59.000 It's just a matter of time.

01:55:00.000 And when you can't tell at all, whether or not you really have an inexperience, that's when you're in a simulation.

01:55:09.000 And that might have already happened.

01:55:11.000 Yeah.

01:55:12.000 That might be what we're dealing with right now.

01:55:14.000 That we're just a simulation creating its next simulation?

01:55:17.000 Its next iteration?

01:55:18.000 Maybe why it's so wacky.

01:55:20.000 Why it feels so fake.

01:55:23.000 It's so weird, you know?

01:55:25.000 Yeah, it is wild.

01:55:27.000 Just like it's the world we live in where comedians are like...

01:55:33.000 It shouldn't make any sense.

01:55:34.000 Yeah, where it's like comedians are selling out arenas regularly.

01:55:37.000 Regularly.

01:55:38.000 Regularly.

01:55:38.000 All of our friends.

01:55:39.000 Yeah.

01:55:41.000 They're just arena acts all of a sudden.

01:55:44.000 Yeah, instantly.

01:55:45.000 Well, I think part of that has to do with as things get more fake, people will try to strive for things they know is real.

01:55:52.000 100%.

01:55:52.000 And so what I know is real is this guy talking to me in person right now.

01:55:56.000 Yes.

01:55:57.000 Also, because of the restrictive nature of all, whatever you see on television, any regular television show.

01:56:05.000 Not even television.

01:56:07.000 Like, the censorship on social media sometimes is like, like, I did this sketch with one of our, the door guys at Mothership, Christina Mariani, killing it, and in this sketch, we have her tell me to kill myself.

01:56:21.000 That's part of the, that's the sort of, and you can't, in the captions, They took it down because we spelled out the word kill, which you can't do, and you can't say the words kill yourself.

01:56:33.000 And it's just a small little sketch, and already there's so much holding you back from having a true expression sometimes that people will go to seek it out live.

01:56:45.000 That's what I think.

01:56:46.000 There's definitely some part of that.

01:56:48.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:56:49.000 I think people are definitely aware that there's a bunch of stuff you can't talk about.

01:56:53.000 In social media that you want to talk about on stage that are funny.

01:56:57.000 Well, and it's also so funny to me where it's like social media, there's this big like, oh, mental health is important, but like you can't type, you have to write unalive yourself in the caption.

01:57:05.000 It's like, so we can't have serious discussions about these topics really.

01:57:09.000 Right.

01:57:10.000 Like there's certain, if certain words are off limits, then there's no way you can have an actual serious discussion where those words are involved.

01:57:17.000 Right.

01:57:18.000 100%.

01:57:18.000 Because then they just expand the definition of offense.

01:57:22.000 Right.

01:57:22.000 And then now this is expensive.

01:57:24.000 Now this is a new version.

01:57:25.000 We have an updated list of words you can't say.

01:57:28.000 And we were talking about all these bots earlier, so we don't want these words to offend people, but we're not even talking to people.

01:57:35.000 This is all going out to computer programs.

01:57:37.000 It's computer programs watching other computer programs being offended.

01:57:41.000 It's crazy.

01:57:42.000 But offending people should be the least of your concern when you're allowing open manipulation by a university.

01:57:48.000 And also, this is just the one we know about.

01:57:52.000 We didn't know about that until they told us.

01:57:54.000 Right, and they didn't have to tell us.

01:57:55.000 No.

01:57:55.000 They just decided to.

01:57:57.000 I guess in a way of, like, warning, like, hey, this is probably happening in a bunch of ways.

01:58:02.000 I'm glad they did.

01:58:03.000 They shouldn't have done it in the first place, but I'm, well, look, it's being done.

01:58:07.000 It's being done.

01:58:08.000 And it's not like they came up with the idea they're the only ones doing it.

01:58:11.000 I guarantee you it's being done.

01:58:13.000 There's probably a bunch of people that have AI friends online that they communicate with on Twitter and, you know, hey, good to hear from you.

01:58:20.000 They do DMs back and forth with each other.

01:58:20.000 How's things?

01:58:22.000 Right.

01:58:23.000 Talking about stuff they're into.

01:58:25.000 How many of those UAP guys are just talking to bots?

01:58:28.000 All those dudes are in the UAP group, like, where there's a bunch of people all, like, "Disclosure's imminent!" And they're all, like, fucking DMing each other.

01:58:36.000 Probably DMing bots.

01:58:37.000 Right, and they're just getting fed what they want to hear.

01:58:39.000 Just getting fed bullshit AI videos and all kinds of, like, weird disclosure stuff.

01:58:45.000 Half of it's fake.

01:58:46.000 Half of it the government is actually leaking purposely to try to hide some weapons program they have.

01:58:51.000 Right.

01:58:52.000 Who knows?

01:58:52.000 Right.

01:58:53.000 Who knows?

01:58:55.000 The UFO world is like one of the slipperiest worlds. 0.96

01:59:00.000 When you're talking to people, there's full-on grifters.

01:59:04.000 There's full-on people that have the answers to everything, and they're always wrong.

01:59:08.000 They're always off.

01:59:09.000 And then they have some good data that they pull from disclosure and from all these different people that have talked about different things.

01:59:16.000 But then they claim to be the experts in it.

01:59:19.000 There's a lot of weird people in that world.

01:59:22.000 Well, it's easy to do that in that world, too, where a lot of it is like, does this even exist?

01:59:27.000 So you can just be like, well, I have proof.

01:59:29.000 If you don't have good ethics, if you're not like a legitimate journalist – but what's interesting is when legitimate journalists get interested, like Schellenberger, when Michael Schellenberger reports on UAPs.

01:59:40.000 I like how he does it because he does it the same way he reports on like corruption in government and waste and fraud.

01:59:47.000 Like he's just – No speculation.

01:59:48.000 No hyperbole, no exaggeration, no condemnation of – no like virtue signaling.

01:59:55.000 It's like this is what's going on.

01:59:56.000 This is what we know.

01:59:57.000 These programs exist, and this is what we know they've been trying to hide, and these are the people that have come forward, and this is why we think they're telling the truth.

02:00:05.000 Like, yo.

02:00:06.000 Damn.

02:00:06.000 Yeah.

02:00:07.000 It is wild that they told us that aliens exist, and we just sort of didn't care.

02:00:12.000 Yeah, we're like, whatever.

02:00:13.000 Yeah.

02:00:13.000 Well, we got to see it now.

02:00:14.000 We got to see more.

02:00:15.000 Yeah, show us what you got.

02:00:18.000 You know what it's like?

02:00:19.000 It's like that guy that was telling us that he knows that Israel had a warning. 0.88

02:00:22.000 That's exactly what I was going to say.

02:00:23.000 Don't tell me unless you can tell me.

02:00:24.000 Show me.

02:00:25.000 Don't fucking tell me unless you can tell me.

02:00:28.000 Oh, we have crafts of non-human origin?

02:00:31.000 What?

02:00:33.000 Well, show me, bitch! 1.00

02:00:35.000 Yeah, why can't they show us a picture of that?

02:00:38.000 Unless the one picture is Epstein sitting in the thing.

02:00:42.000 That's why it's all.

02:00:43.000 Epstein and Puffy making out in space.

02:00:46.000 Have you seen those ones?

02:00:47.000 The two of them making out in jail?

02:00:48.000 No, that's so funny.

02:00:50.000 They made AI of the two of them kissing and making out in jail.

02:00:52.000 Did they know each other?

02:00:53.000 Oh, who knows?

02:00:54.000 It's a good question.

02:00:55.000 Was there a connection there?

02:00:57.000 Because there's this whole Mossad-Epstein connection.

02:01:01.000 Is there a Mossad-Diddy connection?

02:01:05.000 Did they know each other?

02:01:06.000 Was Diddy ever on the island?

02:01:08.000 If you're going to have a fly party, that's a dude to invite.

02:01:10.000 Right.

02:01:10.000 Back in the day.

02:01:11.000 Exactly.

02:01:12.000 Before everybody knew.

02:01:13.000 I can't imagine their circles were completely separate.

02:01:16.000 That's a good point.

02:01:18.000 Yeah.

02:01:18.000 Well, we know that he was hobnobbing with...

02:01:22.000 You know that Diddy was hobnobbing with Biden, or excuse me, with Obama, right?

02:01:27.000 There's a video of the two of them together talking, remember?

02:01:30.000 But there's a video with, like, I feel like every current, every president from Clinton on has a picture with either, has, like, a lot of pictures with Epstein or a lot of pictures with Diddy.

02:01:41.000 Right.

02:01:42.000 But then the thing is, it's like, did they know?

02:01:45.000 Or was it just, there's a lot of photographs of famous people with these people.

02:01:50.000 Right.

02:01:50.000 Because that's like a way to get an endorsement.

02:01:52.000 Right.

02:01:52.000 You know, like, look, The Rock likes me.

02:01:54.000 Right.

02:01:55.000 I must be awesome.

02:01:55.000 And a lot of what I heard about how the Epstein thing worked is that, oh, you'd be at a party and then all of a sudden some of that, the shady shit would go down Of course, right?

02:02:08.000 In that way, people that were more conservative, they could kind of shield them from knowing about it, but implicate them.

02:02:16.000 That's all that matters.

02:02:17.000 It's like,'cause if you're at a party where someone Assaults an underage girl.

02:02:23.000 Right.

02:02:23.000 And that's on video and now you're at the party.

02:02:25.000 It doesn't matter.

02:02:26.000 You have to explain that.

02:02:27.000 But especially if you're, like, a scientist and they flew you to the island and there's a bunch of other scientists there.

02:02:32.000 You're like, oh, we're just gonna, you know, he donates a lot to science and this is a wonderful opportunity to get together with my colleagues and have a few cocktails and just, you know, we're going over string theory.

02:02:45.000 Meanwhile, there's people in the background doing ecstasy and it gets a little freaky.

02:02:49.000 Maybe you go to bed.

02:02:50.000 Maybe you go to bed.

02:02:52.000 Or maybe someone knocks on your door in the middle of the night.

02:02:54.000 We have someone who will massage you. 0.97

02:02:57.000 Maybe they fucking drug your drink.

02:02:59.000 Yeah, no questions asked.

02:03:01.000 Who knows?

02:03:01.000 You were over there for a few days.

02:03:05.000 Why would you think that?

02:03:06.000 Why would you possibly think that?

02:03:22.000 Sounds like a great thing.

02:03:24.000 Yeah.

02:03:24.000 If you don't know any better.

02:03:26.000 Yeah, and, like, he wants to fly you out privately to an island to meet a billionaire, and you're like, whoa, I've never done that.

02:03:31.000 Private?

02:03:32.000 This is going to be incredible.

02:03:33.000 But once that guy gets arrested for getting jerked off by kids, Oh, no.

02:03:40.000 And then you still hang out with him.

02:03:42.000 Right, right.

02:03:43.000 Which a lot of them did.

02:03:45.000 Right.

02:03:45.000 That's where it gets weird.

02:03:47.000 Like, did you hang out with him because he made you?

02:03:50.000 Because he said, hey, you're not going nowhere.

02:03:53.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:03:54.000 Right.

02:03:55.000 Like, if you're intelligent, you'd probably distance yourself from him at that point in time.

02:03:59.000 Right.

02:03:59.000 You'd be like, well, I have to separate.

02:04:00.000 If you've got a clean slate, you're like, well, I can't have anything to do with him publicly.

02:04:05.000 I am the CEO of Microsoft.

02:04:07.000 Damn.

02:04:09.000 But yet you're still hanging out with him?

02:04:10.000 Right.

02:04:11.000 Because now he has it over you.

02:04:13.000 Yeah.

02:04:14.000 The Bill Gates one was great because he was donating to Global Health.

02:04:17.000 Do you need money?

02:04:19.000 Do you need money?

02:04:20.000 What about your money?

02:04:22.000 You have so much money.

02:04:22.000 You have hundreds of billions of dollars.

02:04:25.000 You need this guy who's got one billion to help?

02:04:28.000 Right.

02:04:30.000 Why don't you take one of them one billion that you have and throw it in there?

02:04:33.000 If you really care.

02:04:35.000 Seems weird.

02:04:39.000 All of it seems weird.

02:04:40.000 Yeah, it's all like, but it's all like, these sort of like, sex scandal rings of just, I think that's like a function of high politics.

02:04:47.000 Bro, it's a function of a bunch of people getting together and getting drunk.

02:04:51.000 A bunch of freaks.

02:04:52.000 And then they're doing coke, and they're on an island.

02:04:54.000 Let's go!

02:04:55.000 And you think, you know, you think you're partying on a yacht somewhere, but meanwhile you're just in a real live reality show that only a few people get to watch.

02:05:03.000 Right.

02:05:04.000 But wasn't there like, even pre-Epstein, wasn't there like that Franklin scandal?

02:05:08.000 100%.

02:05:08.000 Yeah, where it's like, I think that's just a function of like, it's a way to control.

02:05:12.000 Dude, there was the lady that was the madam that got assassinated in D.C. Oh, I didn't, and the madam got assassinated? 0.99

02:05:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:05:19.000 She's a famous D.C. madam. 1.00

02:05:22.000 I think they said it was a suicide.

02:05:23.000 And she was like, if I kill myself, I definitely did not kill myself.

02:05:27.000 One of them deals.

02:05:28.000 Oh, yeah.

02:05:29.000 Conveniently died.

02:05:30.000 Yeah, didn't one of the Epstein witnesses just kill herself? 0.99

02:05:33.000 Oh, yes.

02:05:34.000 Yeah.

02:05:36.000 Things happen.

02:05:37.000 Yeah.

02:05:37.000 You know where they recruited her?

02:05:38.000 Where?

02:05:39.000 She got recruited at Mar-a-Lago.

02:05:41.000 She was a locker room attendant at Mar-a-Lago when she got recruited.

02:05:47.000 I'm pretty sure.

02:05:48.000 Can we look that up?

02:05:49.000 I think Virginia Guthrie.

02:05:50.000 I do want to say that's a crazy thing to say where I'm like, I think I'm right about that.

02:05:54.000 Yeah, be careful about that one.

02:05:56.000 All of it is so spooky, dude, because you know that that's not the only one.

02:06:00.000 There's probably one that's going on right now in China.

02:06:02.000 There's one going on in Russia.

02:06:04.000 It's just a thing that's happening all over the world.

02:06:06.000 When you have like a China or Russia where it's like basically an emperor, they can just run it.

02:06:09.000 Yeah.

02:06:10.000 That's a whole different thing.

02:06:11.000 Right.

02:06:11.000 They don't need to blackmail people.

02:06:12.000 Yeah.

02:06:13.000 They don't need some American financier.

02:06:16.000 Yeah.

02:06:17.000 At Mar-a-Lago.

02:06:18.000 Damn.

02:06:19.000 She was a spot in Donald Trump's private Mar-a-Lago club.

02:06:22.000 Ghislaine Maxwell.

02:06:26.000 How can you not believe in conspiracies?

02:06:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:06:28.000 It's crazy.

02:06:31.000 Macron's married to a man.

02:06:34.000 A man who bitch slapped him in a private jet. 1.00

02:06:36.000 Oh, my God.

02:06:38.000 Really?

02:06:38.000 Dude, his whole life he's been abused by that guy.

02:06:41.000 Just facepalmed in his face.

02:06:44.000 I want to know.

02:06:44.000 I mean, take a fucking test.

02:06:48.000 It's not hard.

02:06:49.000 If I was her, I would say, listen, you motherfuckers. 1.00

02:06:53.000 Okay?

02:06:53.000 Let's take a chromosome test.

02:06:55.000 I am not a man.

02:06:57.000 I'm just a pedophile.

02:06:58.000 I'm just a pedophile.

02:06:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:07:00.000 What accusation thing hurts her the most?

02:07:02.000 The man or the pedophile?

02:07:04.000 Well, the pedophile's not an accusation.

02:07:05.000 That's just, you are that.

02:07:07.000 That is fact.

02:07:07.000 That is exactly who you are.

02:07:09.000 But what was the law back then?

02:07:10.000 Because someplace it had some wacky ass fucking... 1.00

02:07:14.000 I think that's probably why they say 16, because I think in Europe 16 is like...

02:07:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:07:20.000 Because when I read this online, it said 16. Kurt Metzger says 14. Because Metzger says 14. They're moving it.

02:07:24.000 They're moving them goalposts as we speak.

02:07:25.000 Yeah.

02:07:26.000 But I think it's probably like 16 in that area.

02:07:30.000 But either way, if you're a kid's teacher and you're sitting – That's crazy.

02:07:36.000 That's crazy he got to a prime minister with that level of just mindfuckery that's happening to him.

02:07:42.000 Imagine if the roles were reversed and the president was a female. 1.00

02:07:48.000 And then the husband was a teacher when the president was 15. When she was 15 and he was 40. Imagine.

02:07:57.000 Crazy.

02:07:58.000 Imagine that was in the United States.

02:07:59.000 Imagine if it turned out that there's a female that's running for president and then we start going into the history and find out that she met her husband, who's 80, when she was 15. Yeah.

02:08:13.000 You'd be like, fucking yo. 0.99

02:08:16.000 But by this, in 1974, it was legal!

02:08:20.000 Like, fuck you.

02:08:21.000 Fuck you, man.

02:08:22.000 That's crazy.

02:08:23.000 We would never, but because it's a guy and an older lady, lady, air quotes, lady, we let it slide.

02:08:31.000 Like, he still gets to go to the meetings and shake everybody's hand.

02:08:33.000 You know, he still gets to go to these fucking things where all the world leaders get together.

02:08:37.000 He's hanging out with them.

02:08:38.000 Like normal.

02:08:39.000 What's also funny to me is you're probably going to get more heat for calling her a man than she will for slapping the Prime Minister.

02:08:46.000 No, she's catching heat.

02:08:47.000 I think, and also Candace, I think, Candace, if she's right, and it seems like they're not suing her, so I think she might be right.

02:08:57.000 And they did offer her money.

02:08:58.000 How much money do they offer her? 1.00

02:09:00.000 Find out that.

02:09:01.000 How much money do they offer Candace Owens to not? 1.00

02:09:04.000 Tell these stories.

02:09:06.000 Damn!

02:09:06.000 They offered her, they were like, Jesus!

02:09:15.000 Yeah.

02:09:16.000 Which is the last person you want to tell anybody that you offered them money to not talk about something.

02:09:20.000 Because she ain't taking that money. 1.00

02:09:22.000 Yeah, she sees the long game.

02:09:23.000 She's already willing to... 0.97

02:09:27.000 Oh, damn it.

02:09:29.000 France offered to Big Candace Owens a one-time payment of $4 million plus $50k per month for the rest of her life. 0.97

02:09:34.000 And that's just a meme?

02:09:36.000 What's the site?

02:09:38.000 Neither Owens nor French President Emmanuel Macron have referenced the claim on their respective websites or verified social media accounts and there is no other evidence to support the claim.

02:09:48.000 Can we see what the name of the account is?

02:09:51.000 Legitimate targets!

02:09:55.000 There's nothing I trust less than I play a thing called Legitimate Targets with a blue check mark.

02:10:00.000 That's why we had to look that one up.

02:10:01.000 Yeah.

02:10:02.000 Because you don't know.

02:10:03.000 Yeah.

02:10:04.000 But again, this is like more...

02:10:09.000 Oh, for sure.

02:10:09.000 Bot-like targeting, disinformation campaigns.

02:10:12.000 Mm-hmm.

02:10:12.000 You know, throwing fuel on the fire.

02:10:14.000 Of just getting you to believe, like, oh, wow, okay, they paid money.

02:10:17.000 Like, think about how many, once, okay, you make that post.

02:10:21.000 Mm-hmm.

02:10:21.000 How many people, like me, read that, think it's true, ask Jamie to look it up, it starts spreading.

02:10:28.000 People start following your account.

02:10:30.000 How many new people do you get?

02:10:31.000 How much engagement do you get?

02:10:33.000 All that's valuable.

02:10:35.000 You can keep doing that a lot and outrage people a lot.

02:10:38.000 There's a bunch of those that come up.

02:10:40.000 You're like, fuck, is this true?

02:10:41.000 And then you have to copy and paste it and put it in Google and search a little.

02:10:45.000 I don't think this is true.

02:10:46.000 And now all someone has to do is take the snippet of you saying it before you, like, let's look that up.

02:10:51.000 100%.

02:10:52.000 And then now it's like...

02:10:57.000 But also, if you're a woman, you're not going to be like, well, fuck you.

02:11:01.000 I'm not going to prove to you I'm a woman.

02:11:03.000 I would do it.

02:11:04.000 But you say that as a man.

02:11:06.000 That's true.

02:11:10.000 Like, I could totally do it.

02:11:11.000 If I was a woman and they were accusing me of being a man, I'd also kind of probably be like, a little, a large part of me would be like, fuck you, I'm not going to prove anything to you.

02:11:20.000 You ever see her sit down?

02:11:21.000 No.

02:11:24.000 You ever see her sit down?

02:11:25.000 I haven't seen her sit down.

02:11:26.000 She sits down like a dude. 0.71

02:11:28.000 You know how dudes sit down?

02:11:30.000 Legs spread.

02:11:31.000 Just plop down.

02:11:32.000 All dick out.

02:11:33.000 A lot of weight.

02:11:35.000 Because of the shape of our hips.

02:11:36.000 Right.

02:11:37.000 When people talk about man spreading, yes, guys definitely do that. 0.92

02:11:41.000 But women's legs go inward. 1.00

02:11:44.000 Men's hips, the way the angle is, is different.

02:11:46.000 They go outward.

02:11:48.000 Watch this person sit down.

02:11:49.000 There's a video.

02:11:51.000 See that video?

02:11:53.000 With the white shirt on, the second one?

02:11:55.000 Yeah.

02:11:58.000 Let's see.

02:11:59.000 Watch this.

02:11:59.000 This is it.

02:12:00.000 I've never seen a woman sit down like this.

02:12:02.000 Go full screen.

02:12:04.000 Is this when she was a teacher?

02:12:05.000 Watch this.

02:12:06.000 Watch how she sits down.

02:12:11.000 Bro.

02:12:13.000 That is a very middle-aged man, the way she sits.

02:12:16.000 Bro.

02:12:17.000 Bro.

02:12:18.000 Watch this again.

02:12:20.000 Watch this person sit down.

02:12:25.000 That's how a dude sits.

02:12:27.000 The way the legs are spread apart.

02:12:29.000 It's like a dude's hips.

02:12:30.000 What about all the rest of these, though?

02:12:33.000 What about all the rest of these examples?

02:12:35.000 Oh, well, that's how liberal men sit.

02:12:39.000 That's what they do.

02:12:40.000 They throw their leg over.

02:12:42.000 That's what guys with very small legs.

02:12:44.000 That's so funny.

02:12:45.000 But Ari sits like that, actually, because he's got them weird long legs. 1.00

02:12:49.000 But, like, you can sit like that.

02:12:51.000 It's the way you sit down.

02:12:53.000 It's the initial get down.

02:12:54.000 It's the plop.

02:12:55.000 It's the plop and then the legs spread.

02:12:58.000 Women don't sit like that. 1.00

02:12:59.000 When was the last time you saw a woman sit, plop down with her legs spread like that? 1.00

02:13:03.000 They don't sit like that.

02:13:04.000 They just sit down.

02:13:04.000 They don't.

02:13:06.000 Their legs normally naturally angle inward more.

02:13:10.000 And they sit like this.

02:13:12.000 And they sit with their legs together.

02:13:13.000 You might have a similar pose, but you don't plop like that.

02:13:16.000 Like, that's a dude pose.

02:13:18.000 That is.

02:13:19.000 Or maybe that's how pedophile women sit. 1.00

02:13:23.000 Yeah.

02:13:24.000 Right?

02:13:25.000 There's also that.

02:13:26.000 Let's find one of those and see how they sit.

02:13:29.000 Any examples?

02:13:32.000 The story's very odd, but it's also You're watching that person smack Macron right in the head and then walk down the stairs with him like, what?

02:13:41.000 What could they have possibly been talking about?

02:13:44.000 Your dick is showing. 0.52

02:13:44.000 Yeah. 0.52

02:13:46.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:13:48.000 Yeah.

02:13:50.000 It's a bulge.

02:13:52.000 If he was a man, they would fight. 0.63

02:13:53.000 There would be a square up.

02:13:55.000 Maybe they will when they get back home.

02:13:56.000 Maybe that's the fun part.

02:13:58.000 Maybe they're like, fucking fuck you, fuck you, and then they get alone.

02:14:02.000 Get after it.

02:14:03.000 God damn.

02:14:05.000 That whole relationship is really wild.

02:14:10.000 That has to be one of the more wild politician relationships.

02:14:13.000 Wild.

02:14:14.000 Out there.

02:14:15.000 If that was the head, the lead of a sitcom, you'd be like, what the fuck?

02:14:19.000 What is going on?

02:14:21.000 But the fact that it's the president of France.

02:14:24.000 What?

02:14:24.000 Yeah, getting slapped.

02:14:26.000 There's no way you don't go.

02:14:27.000 Well, he's not going.

02:14:28.000 He can't win re-election anymore.

02:14:29.000 But that would have hurt his campaign so hard.

02:14:32.000 Bro, he's fixing a bomb.

02:14:33.000 somebody to cover this up.

02:14:34.000 He's gonna fuck up.

02:14:39.000 They might arm some rebels.

02:14:41.000 Yeah, it's time to fuck up Algeria some more, whatever France does. 0.99

02:14:45.000 Now you're talking.

02:14:46.000 You know, like remember when Clinton, when the Monica Lewinsky scandal came?

02:14:51.000 Oh, then they bombed Kosovo?

02:14:56.000 What the fuck, man?

02:14:58.000 It's so on the nose.

02:15:00.000 They do shit like, oh my god, you guys aren't even trying.

02:15:03.000 You're not even trying to be slick.

02:15:05.000 No, no.

02:15:05.000 Get the attention off of me.

02:15:07.000 Crazy.

02:15:07.000 Yeah.

02:15:08.000 Oh, man.

02:15:08.000 The part of it, when Columbine happened, he must have been like, thank god to get this off of me.

02:15:13.000 Oh, you remember Gary Condit?

02:15:15.000 Yeah, well, he murdered that lady, right?

02:15:17.000 Okay, 9-11 happened.

02:15:17.000 Allegedly.

02:15:19.000 And he forgot about it.

02:15:21.000 Everybody's like, listen.

02:15:22.000 We got bigger fish to fry.

02:15:25.000 Save a few of those.

02:15:26.000 I wonder how accurate House of Cards is.

02:15:30.000 I wonder.

02:15:31.000 I wonder how accurate it is.

02:15:34.000 I mean, outside of him physically killing the people, which he does sometimes, I would probably say it's, like, probably super accurate. 1.00

02:15:41.000 Probably pretty accurate.

02:15:43.000 It's a lot of dealings, a lot of like...

02:15:43.000 Yeah.

02:15:47.000 It's such a good show.

02:15:51.000 Well, you know, Spacey is always a great villain.

02:15:55.000 He's always been a great villain.

02:15:57.000 He might be the best movie villain.

02:15:59.000 Oh, he was so good in that one, though.

02:16:01.000 Because he was so charming and layered.

02:16:03.000 But it was also similar to, like, Tony Soprano.

02:16:06.000 Like, you wanted him to succeed.

02:16:08.000 Yeah, you want to be like, oh, can he get to the president?

02:16:09.000 Yeah.

02:16:10.000 Does he have what it takes?

02:16:11.000 Like, we were hoping he wins.

02:16:13.000 Right?

02:16:14.000 Like, when you're watching this show, you're like, God, I hope he's president.

02:16:16.000 Right, yeah, exactly.

02:16:17.000 You were like, I was watching it to be like, oh, how does he do it?

02:16:21.000 How does he do it?

02:16:21.000 Right.

02:16:22.000 Because he's kind of in the beginning, he's kind of sidelined, and it's like, oh, how does he get back in?

02:16:27.000 Remember he has that threesome?

02:16:28.000 It was like a security guard.

02:16:30.000 And his wife?

02:16:30.000 Is that what it was?

02:16:31.000 The three of them get down?

02:16:32.000 Oh, yeah.

02:16:35.000 Get down, get down. 0.99

02:16:37.000 Yeah.

02:16:37.000 I wonder.

02:16:38.000 I wonder how much of that freak shit goes on behind closed doors.

02:16:41.000 Because I definitely think when you're a bottled up person like that, like you have to be any sort of like professional person, politician, publicly professional and ethical and you wear a suit and tie.

02:16:52.000 You can't wait to suck a dick. 1.00

02:16:53.000 You can't wait to get freaky.

02:16:55.000 Didn't Madison Cawthorn sort of get thrown out of the Republican Party for kind of being like, hey, they have a lot of orgies and shit? 1.00

02:17:04.000 Really?

02:17:05.000 I'm pretty sure.

02:17:06.000 What year was this?

02:17:08.000 When does Cawthorn get to 2016?

02:17:10.000 This is pretty quickly, because he was a rising star.

02:17:13.000 Really?

02:17:14.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure he said something.

02:17:16.000 You're more in deep than me on politics.

02:17:19.000 You're in deep with this fella.

02:17:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:17:22.000 Orgies and drugs, yeah, yeah.

02:17:23.000 Whoa.

02:17:24.000 Ultra-conservative group chair says he also wants to speak with the North Carolina Republican about his salacious claims concerning his colleagues.

02:17:30.000 Mm-hmm.

02:17:32.000 Okay.

02:17:35.000 Let's see.

02:17:36.000 Perry, this is Cawthorn's claims.

02:17:39.000 What were his claims, though?

02:17:43.000 What does he say?

02:17:44.000 Asked whether they'd reconsider Cawthorn's membership in the group.

02:17:47.000 Yeah, he basically said that- Didn't make clear that he has evidence of taking part in group sex and drug use?

02:17:53.000 Perry wouldn't say either way.

02:17:55.000 We will discuss that when we get to it.

02:17:58.000 Yeah, I think- When asked whether they would reconsider Cawthorn's membership in the group, if he didn't make clear whom he has evidence.

02:18:05.000 So, Cawthorn was saying someone has evidence.

02:18:09.000 That he has evidence of some people taking part of group sex.

02:18:12.000 Not him, right?

02:18:13.000 No, I think Cawthorn was saying something to the effect of, to move up in this world or whatever, you have to take part in the drugs and the group sex.

02:18:20.000 And then them being like, well, show us the evidence.

02:18:22.000 And then Cothra being like, oh, I might have, I definitely...

02:18:25.000 Yes.

02:18:26.000 He was invited, he claims he was invited to an orgy in Washington.

02:18:32.000 I thought you were saying that he was wrapped up in it.

02:18:34.000 So this is what killed him that he was saying this about people and they killed his career?

02:18:38.000 And they were like, the Freedom Caucus was like, uh-uh, no more.

02:18:42.000 Really?

02:18:43.000 Yeah, because I remember his own rally took him out.

02:18:45.000 Go back to that, Jamie.

02:18:47.000 It says the sexual perversion that goes on in Washington, being kind of a young guy in Washington, where the average age is probably 60 or 70. Look at these people.

02:18:55.000 A lot of them I've looked up to through my life.

02:18:59.000 I always paid attention to politics, and all of a sudden you get invited.

02:19:02.000 We're going to have a sexual get-together at one of our homes.

02:19:05.000 You should come.

02:19:06.000 What you just asked me to come to, and then you realize they're asking you to come to an orgy.

02:19:11.000 Some of the people leading on the movement to try And remove addiction in our country, and then you watch them do a key bump of cocaine right in front of you.

02:19:23.000 And it's like, this is wild.

02:19:26.000 And then it says, uh, what?

02:19:29.000 This is CNN.com.

02:19:31.000 CNN says, uh, what?

02:19:33.000 What does it say after that?

02:19:35.000 Leave it back up.

02:19:38.000 It's not clear to me whether Cawthorn is suggesting that members of Congress have invited him to orgies or just other people in Washington, although after listening to his comments several times, it seems to be the former.

02:19:49.000 Ditto his allegations of seeing people in Washington doing cocaine.

02:19:54.000 Well, they sound like cocaine people.

02:19:56.000 Clearly cocaine people.

02:19:57.000 If you want to be the president, you want to have all the power, and you want to have all the money, and you're deeply involved in corruption, that's cocaine people.

02:20:05.000 Yeah, I mean, no one's shocked.

02:20:06.000 He just said the quiet part out loud.

02:20:09.000 Because he was supposed to be the guy at one point.

02:20:12.000 I remember.

02:20:13.000 He was supposed to be the guy.

02:20:14.000 Have your husband ever made any investments based on decisions he-Oh, that's-*laughter* That was the first part of the problems he had.

02:20:28.000 He had some other issues.

02:20:30.000 What was the other issues?

02:20:31.000 He got arrested for, I think, bringing a gun to an airport a couple times.

02:20:35.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:20:36.000 Driving with revoked license.

02:20:37.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:20:38.000 Sexual misconduct allegations when he was in college.

02:20:40.000 Isn't he in a wheelchair?

02:20:42.000 I don't know exactly when the wheelchair happened, so it was either before or after.

02:20:46.000 Because I was going to say.

02:20:47.000 Oh yeah, and then he took like goofy vacation photos where I think he like dressed like during this game on a cruise, he like dressed like a woman or something like that.

02:20:56.000 Yeah, but all of this popped up after his...

02:20:56.000 or something like that.

02:21:02.000 I don't know if it's just the orgy comment that led to everyone.

02:21:07.000 He also clearly looks like he's in a wheelchair here too.

02:21:10.000 He is in a wheelchair there.

02:21:11.000 Yeah.

02:21:12.000 He's probably having a good time with the ladies.

02:21:13.000 Yeah.

02:21:14.000 Getting a little crazy.

02:21:16.000 Yeah.

02:21:16.000 But all that came up after he made those comments.

02:21:19.000 And it was very clear at the time like, oh, they're like saying, we're done with this guy.

02:21:22.000 We're going to throw him to the wolves.

02:21:23.000 Yeah.

02:21:24.000 And they probably, if you want to be that guy, they have to have some stuff on you.

02:21:28.000 Otherwise, how can they count on you to play this game?

02:21:30.000 Right.

02:21:31.000 Right.

02:21:31.000 And they were like, oh, you think we don't have anything on you?

02:21:34.000 We'll just show you dressing like a woman and your constituents will dry up like that. 1.00

02:21:36.000 You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

02:21:38.000 You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

02:21:43.000 So silly.

02:21:44.000 But boy, they did such a good job in the 60s, after the Kennedy assassination, of putting that word out there for fools and foolish people.

02:21:53.000 They did such a great job.

02:21:54.000 They really did.

02:21:55.000 Well, also, they had a higher control of the media at the time, right?

02:21:58.000 So you can, if there's only three places where you can get your news, you can be like, well, anyone's outside of it.

02:22:03.000 It's kind of crazy.

02:22:04.000 Now you can get your news from anyone and be like, oh, okay, there's something to this.

02:22:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:22:08.000 There's something to this.

02:22:09.000 Do you remember those commercials that happened during, right after 9-11?

02:22:15.000 There was these anti-drug commercials where a guy was saying that if you smoke pot, you're supporting terrorism.

02:22:23.000 He's like, why do you say that?

02:22:24.000 Well, it's a fact.

02:22:25.000 He just says it like he's eating a salad, like a no-nonsense guy at a steakhouse eating a salad because it's a fact.

02:22:31.000 Like, this condescending way.

02:22:33.000 And you imagine yourself being confronted by such an accusation, like, oh my god, if I smoke pot, I'm supporting terrorism?

02:22:38.000 You ever see that video?

02:22:40.000 It was a public service announcement video.

02:22:40.000 No.

02:22:43.000 It was a propaganda video that they put on television.

02:22:46.000 So while you're watching a television show, this is right after the height of everybody freaking out about terrorism.

02:22:53.000 So they use this as an anti-marijuana.

02:22:57.000 Drug money funds terrorism and terrorists.

02:23:00.000 Scroll back so you get that from the beginning.

02:23:01.000 It's a ploy.

02:23:02.000 What?

02:23:03.000 This drug money funds terror, it's a ploy.

02:23:06.000 A ploy.

02:23:07.000 A manipulation.

02:23:09.000 Ploy.

02:23:10.000 Drug money funds terror.

02:23:11.000 I mean, why should I believe that?

02:23:12.000 Because it's a fact.

02:23:14.000 A fact.

02:23:15.000 A F-A-C-T fact.

02:23:17.000 So you're saying that I should believe it because it's true.

02:23:20.000 That's your argument.

02:23:22.000 It is true.

02:23:27.000 Solid argument.

02:23:28.000 I know, dude.

02:23:28.000 Also, what kind of dumbass is that guy to be like, oh, maybe he's right after you said nothing?

02:23:32.000 Well, that guy sounds like your average bro.

02:23:34.000 Right.

02:23:35.000 It's like at a bar, you know?

02:23:37.000 This is what I heard.

02:23:38.000 I heard the government's hiding the aliens.

02:23:41.000 That's like the average guy.

02:23:41.000 You know what I mean?

02:23:42.000 Right.

02:23:43.000 And then he's a guy with glasses, who's eating his salads, not tolerating your bullshit because it's a fact.

02:23:48.000 F-A-C-T fact.

02:23:49.000 Right.

02:23:50.000 Oh, as long as you have all the data that you could show me.

02:23:53.000 Oh, no data?

02:23:54.000 You got no data?

02:23:54.000 No.

02:23:55.000 Just accept it.

02:23:56.000 Well, he's kind of right, because if you do buy heroin, you are supporting the Taliban, because we were guarding their poppy fields.

02:24:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:24:07.000 I think when we talked about this earlier, I think the Taliban, as a way to get out of it, burned all their poppy fields.

02:24:07.000 LOL.

02:24:14.000 Did they?

02:24:16.000 Yeah, I think that's why they're trying to get more tourists to come.

02:24:18.000 And there's a bunch of, like, bro travel, like, TikToks.

02:24:24.000 That are like, yeah, me and the bros are going to Afghanistan, and they're like chilling with the Taliban.

02:24:28.000 It's like these white guys from Britain. 0.93

02:24:30.000 Boy, you gotta be a bold person to take that.

02:24:33.000 That's an early adopter.

02:24:35.000 But also, if you're from England, you're kind of already getting used to being around Muslim extremists. 0.96

02:24:42.000 So I think it's nice.

02:24:44.000 More of a lateral move.

02:24:46.000 I wish that something at least like I could be looking this I could be Wrong about this but like I wish that was something that was a little more vocal and like sort of and I'm not really that practicing or that religious, but the sort of that...

02:25:12.000 Like, I don't want that.

02:25:13.000 Like, that's not...

02:25:21.000 And it's just this very interesting thing of, like, how do we curb that in our community of being like, hey, we shouldn't accept this.

02:25:32.000 Like, we shouldn't, you know, I remember when the Charlie Hebdo attacks happened, a lot of people would be like, damn, that's what happens when you draw Muhammad or whatever.

02:25:37.000 It's like, that shouldn't be our reaction to this.

02:25:40.000 Right.

02:25:40.000 It should be like, live and let live.

02:25:43.000 It's like, that's what I admire about the Christians here is that you can make fun of Jesus, no one's going to kill you.

02:25:47.000 Right.

02:25:48.000 Like, there's sort of like this sort of westernization that kind of needs to happen that doesn't look like it's happening over there in a way that's kind of happening here.

02:25:55.000 Look what's going on in Toronto, where Ontario made it legal to have polygamy.

02:26:00.000 Right.

02:26:00.000 Yeah.

02:26:01.000 That's why.

02:26:03.000 It's like...

02:26:04.000 It's in the Quran.

02:26:04.000 Come on.

02:26:06.000 You know, it is.

02:26:07.000 It is.

02:26:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:26:09.000 You could have multiple.

02:26:09.000 You got to treat them all equally, which is what they totally do.

02:26:12.000 It's a great way to keep people recruited.

02:26:15.000 You know?

02:26:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:26:16.000 I mean, you know, imagine if the Christians said, listen, we're open to new ideas.

02:26:21.000 I think maybe the Mormons had a point. 0.95

02:26:24.000 Because the Mormons, that's how they got it. 0.99

02:26:26.000 Right.

02:26:27.000 The whole reason why they went to Mexico was because the United States said no to polygamy. 0.56

02:26:31.000 Right.

02:26:32.000 You know?

02:26:33.000 That's the whole thing about, what's his face from Massachusetts?

02:26:37.000 That's right.

02:26:37.000 Mitt Romney.

02:26:38.000 Mitt Romney.

02:26:38.000 Mitt Romney's dad was actually born in Mexico.

02:26:41.000 Really?

02:26:42.000 Their family came from...

02:26:49.000 Never seen that?

02:26:50.000 No.

02:26:51.000 Dude, there was a shootout.

02:26:52.000 Mormons versus the cartels?

02:26:53.000 Yes, man.

02:26:54.000 Great movie title.

02:26:55.000 There was a big problem a few years back because a few people, I think a woman and a child and a couple other people got murdered by the cartels.

02:27:05.000 And it became like a giant issue.

02:27:07.000 So they set these compounds up in like...

02:27:19.000 So they just said, well, who cares back then?

02:27:21.000 There was no cars.

02:27:22.000 Mexico was just as good as living in America. 1.00

02:27:24.000 Just, we'll go over there.

02:27:24.000 Right.

02:27:25.000 Right.

02:27:25.000 But then, you know, America fucking blossomed.

02:27:27.000 Mexico kind of stayed, you know.

02:27:30.000 And now you're like, hey, you got a cartel problem now.

02:27:34.000 So they're armed.

02:27:36.000 Are they still there?

02:27:37.000 Yeah.

02:27:38.000 Yeah, there's two, I think there's two large groups of Mormons that live in like these fenced off communities. 1.00

02:27:38.000 Damn. 1.00

02:27:48.000 Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

02:27:49.000 They have compounds.

02:27:50.000 Yeah.

02:27:51.000 Well, the Mormons, I think because they're young, too.

02:27:54.000 They have to weigh safety.

02:27:55.000 Yeah.

02:27:56.000 Extra pussy. 1.00

02:27:58.000 The extra pussy's worth a lot. 1.00

02:28:00.000 I'll say this.

02:28:00.000 I remember the first time I went to Salt Lake City in 2019 and we were walking around and we were near the Mormon temple and the most beautiful women came up to us and be like, oh, why don't you?

02:28:09.000 And I was like, that's how they get you, dude.

02:28:11.000 Dude, Salt Lake City is like, it's just tens marrying twos.

02:28:15.000 And they're like, that's how you get the Mormon guys. 0.98

02:28:18.000 Oh, dude, I was willing to, in that split second, I was like, I'm willing to give up a lot right now.

02:28:25.000 I remember this beautiful woman from Colombia.

02:28:27.000 Like they went and they got converted on a mission trip and now they're here and like look at this exotic women that's available to you if you're a Mormon. 1.00

02:28:34.000 And you can marry one like tomorrow.

02:28:36.000 Wow.

02:28:37.000 You can marry one because they all get married young and quick because the whole point is to have babies. 0.71

02:28:40.000 So I've always told people Mormons know how to recruit. 1.00

02:28:43.000 They throw the pussy your way. 1.00

02:28:43.000 They can get you. 1.00

02:28:45.000 They're also the nicest people.

02:28:47.000 Like, you very rarely meet a mean Mormon. 1.00

02:28:49.000 Well, it's like, you know, the Book of Mormon comes out, and what do they do?

02:28:53.000 Do they get mad?

02:28:54.000 Do they fucking kill people?

02:28:55.000 No, they stand outside and hand people pamphlets about Mormonism.

02:28:59.000 This whole play talking about how Mormonism is totally bullshit, they're like, we might be able to get somebody. 1.00

02:29:05.000 Yeah, they actually took out a full-page ad in the playbook.

02:29:08.000 Right, exactly, exactly.

02:29:09.000 That's a great way to deal with criticism of your religion, I think.

02:29:13.000 From my perspective on Islam, it needs to handle that better.

02:29:17.000 It doesn't handle that well at all.

02:29:19.000 I mean, I think Salman Rushdie was stabbed by a guy who was born and raised in New Jersey.

02:29:24.000 That's crazy.

02:29:25.000 That's crazy.

02:29:26.000 He should be safe here.

02:29:28.000 Right.

02:29:29.000 And also, I'm mad at the fatwa because it made me read that terrible book. 0.98

02:29:29.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:29:33.000 Was it a bad book?

02:29:34.000 It wasn't that good.

02:29:35.000 I would have not have read it if there wasn't anything around it.

02:29:39.000 Probably sold a lot more copies because of that.

02:29:41.000 Probably made that dude rich as fuck.

02:29:42.000 Oh, yeah.

02:29:43.000 Yeah.

02:29:44.000 Crazy.

02:29:44.000 It's like one of those, it's like I get it if you like artsy, like, you know, it's like a novel for writers almost.

02:29:49.000 That's how I felt reading it.

02:29:50.000 Oh, interesting.

02:29:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:29:51.000 It's like, I didn't like it, but I only read it because of everything around it.

02:29:58.000 Did you see American Primeval?

02:29:59.000 No.

02:30:00.000 It's great, but it talks about Brigham Young and the Mormons establishing themselves in Utah.

02:30:07.000 And gangster shit.

02:30:08.000 Like, murderers.

02:30:09.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:30:10.000 Like, you don't realize, like, what a gangster Brigham Young was.

02:30:13.000 You're like, holy shit, is this all accurate?

02:30:16.000 And it's accurate. 0.78

02:30:17.000 Peter Berg made it.

02:30:18.000 It's really good.

02:30:18.000 Yeah.

02:30:20.000 Imagine leading a people against the American government and setting up your own place.

02:30:26.000 You have to be a bad motherfucker to do that.

02:30:28.000 And then the wildest ones went to Mexico.

02:30:31.000 Yeah.

02:30:31.000 Fuck it.

02:30:32.000 We're gonna flee the whole country.

02:30:33.000 Yeah, the Mormons really, really like... 1.00

02:30:39.000 But it's what we were talking about earlier.

02:30:40.000 It's like human beings have a bunch of different ways where they can adapt to whatever the group is doing.

02:30:46.000 There's a bunch of where We're easily influenced.

02:30:54.000 We adjust to whatever the environment is.

02:30:57.000 We adapt.

02:30:59.000 And then if you're a Mormon woman, you're like, I guess I'm sharing this motherfucker with eight other ladies. 1.00

02:31:04.000 Right.

02:31:04.000 It's what you do.

02:31:05.000 You're out there washing sheets and shit.

02:31:09.000 You can probably convince yourself you're happy about it.

02:31:10.000 You're probably not like that.

02:31:11.000 You're probably like, and we're doing this for God.

02:31:13.000 This is what God wants.

02:31:14.000 I remember.

02:31:14.000 We all got our own planet.

02:31:15.000 We were in a rest stop once.

02:31:17.000 Ari and I were on a road doing stand-up, and we pulled into this place to get gas, and we were walking around this rest stop, one of them little supermarket things, and these ladies came in. 1.00

02:31:29.000 I think they were men and knights.

02:31:31.000 And Ari was like, uh, what group are you in?

02:31:35.000 What do you guys do?

02:31:36.000 What's this all about?

02:31:37.000 And they, like, did not know how to talk to him.

02:31:39.000 They look so awkward.

02:31:40.000 Oh, yeah, because they're only allowed to talk to the one man in their life.

02:31:43.000 Yeah, pretty sure he was stoned.

02:31:46.000 Yeah, he definitely was stoned.

02:31:47.000 But it was really funny.

02:31:49.000 Ari was like, well, what do you guys do?

02:31:50.000 What's going on here?

02:31:53.000 But I was like, wow, these people are living.

02:31:56.000 I mean, we're dealing with, like, you know, 2,000.

02:31:59.000 five or some shit like that.

02:32:01.000 You're dealing with these people that are It's another time period.

02:32:09.000 They look like colonists.

02:32:10.000 Like, they have, like, old-timey 1800s clothes on.

02:32:14.000 You ever see, like, how Mennonites dress? 1.00

02:32:16.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:32:17.000 Weird.

02:32:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:32:18.000 We're at a gas station, you know, in front of the fucking Popeye's chicken.

02:32:22.000 And we're like, this is so weird.

02:32:25.000 And there's a group of them out there.

02:32:26.000 It's like some fucking shack, some house, some compound.

02:32:30.000 I think we were in Massachusetts when this happened.

02:32:34.000 Or maybe New Hampshire.

02:32:36.000 Isn't the Mennonite population where the measles are in Texas?

02:32:39.000 I think it's the Mennonites.

02:32:42.000 Is that it?

02:32:43.000 Yeah.

02:32:43.000 That's like the overwhelming majority of the people.

02:32:47.000 Because they run with the measles as rampant in Texas.

02:32:51.000 So they were running with that for a while.

02:32:53.000 Basically in this one community, from what I remember.

02:32:56.000 Interesting.

02:32:57.000 It's just weird when they can get people to dress up, you know?

02:33:00.000 You know, like Wild Wild Country, when everybody's wearing the robes.

02:33:03.000 But that's how you know who's bought in, right?

02:33:05.000 So it's like, okay, these are the people that I can control.

02:33:08.000 Yeah, put that rainbow t-shirt on.

02:33:10.000 You're in a group.

02:33:11.000 Yeah.

02:33:13.000 Hang your flag!

02:33:14.000 Yeah, yeah, you got a show.

02:33:15.000 Put the pronouns in the bio.

02:33:17.000 Where's your Black Lives Matter sign?

02:33:24.000 Yeah.

02:33:24.000 It's like finding your community is so huge.

02:33:29.000 Huge.

02:33:30.000 I think a big issue is when you find it online because then it becomes this weird parasocial.

02:33:37.000 But yeah, and it's like you got to find your group.

02:33:41.000 I mean, that's why the good part about religion that I really like is if it's done right, it's like a loving community.

02:33:49.000 Yeah.

02:33:49.000 Like, you know what I mean?

02:33:50.000 Like, it's people, it's a support system.

02:33:55.000 Everybody goes there with the same purpose.

02:33:56.000 This Rebecca LaMove lady that I told you was the expert in mind control, one of the things she talked about, the dangers of eco-chambers. 1.00

02:34:04.000 You get in these eco-chambers online, and everybody says the same thing, thinks the same thing, and then all of a sudden you're locked into this way of thinking.

02:34:13.000 It's online, really dangerous, where people just sort of have everyone sort of reinforcing all these ideas.

02:34:20.000 You never get any outside information.

02:34:22.000 Right.

02:34:22.000 Only exists in this echo chamber.

02:34:25.000 And then that's how you become, all six become your personality.

02:34:28.000 Yep.

02:34:28.000 Your whole life.

02:34:29.000 Yeah.

02:34:30.000 And it's such a crazy thing.

02:34:32.000 It's so new.

02:34:33.000 Because I wasn't aware in 1996, but I will very confidently say people weren't like, you either like Bob Dole or you get the fuck out of my house.

02:34:43.000 No, it was no big deal.

02:34:45.000 When I was a kid, when, you know...

02:34:53.000 Nobody gave a fuck who you supported.

02:34:56.000 They didn't care.

02:34:57.000 Maybe they thought you were an idiot because you're going to vote for that guy.

02:34:59.000 Oh, that guy's a moron.

02:35:00.000 You're crazy.

02:35:01.000 But there was no, like, we couldn't talk at the dinner table.

02:35:04.000 We couldn't, you know, it became everything.

02:35:08.000 Every part of your identity to fight against this.

02:35:11.000 We are fighting against fascism by using fascism.

02:35:15.000 We're going to stop the election.

02:35:20.000 We're going to remove people from social media.

02:35:22.000 We're going to shut down these voices.

02:35:24.000 And then we'll give you the candidate to vote for.

02:35:26.000 Yes.

02:35:27.000 To preserve democracy.

02:35:28.000 Yeah.

02:35:29.000 But it is like, because it's so annoying, like especially, you know, I'm an Austin comic now and people will be like, oh, so you do comedy, so you must be like an alt- Right-wing comic.

02:35:39.000 No, I just do comedy.

02:35:42.000 There's a lot of stage time in the city, and that's sort of the whole point of the whole exercise, is to get up on stage.

02:35:49.000 Bro, how many times do we duke it out with Ron White in the green room over politics?

02:35:53.000 In the most friendly, hilarious way.

02:35:57.000 Tony and I are roasting them.

02:35:58.000 Well, you know what's funny is that ironically people online, for whatever reason...

02:36:06.000 Well, because conservatives love him.

02:36:08.000 I know.

02:36:08.000 And it's so funny to me every time.

02:36:10.000 Every time.

02:36:11.000 You're like, wow, y 'all really think Ron Rice is like deep red conservative.

02:36:15.000 That's crazy.

02:36:16.000 It's so funny because you get to know him.

02:36:18.000 He's the most liberal amongst us.

02:36:19.000 Yeah, he's the most liberal guy in the Green Room.

02:36:21.000 He's first and then Brian Simpson's two.

02:36:22.000 Yeah.

02:36:24.000 But Brian Simpson, it makes sense to me because, you know, used a lot of social services, you know, had like a rough stretch as a child.

02:36:32.000 That's me too.

02:36:33.000 That's like not as bad as him, but the same kind of reasoning for like social safety nets are important.

02:36:38.000 They keep people fed, you know?

02:36:40.000 Yeah.

02:36:41.000 Yeah.

02:36:41.000 It's like that's super important, man.

02:36:43.000 You know, people get people access to medicine.

02:36:45.000 That's very important.

02:36:46.000 Sometimes people are poor and sometimes people get sick when they're poor.

02:36:49.000 And the fact that shit could bankrupt you for your whole life.

02:36:54.000 If you break a leg, you're bankrupt for your whole life.

02:36:56.000 That could bankrupt you if you're middle class.

02:36:58.000 Fuck poor.

02:36:58.000 Yes, yes.

02:36:59.000 The price of medicine in this country is absolute insanity.

02:37:06.000 Right.

02:37:07.000 Yeah.

02:37:07.000 And the fact that people don't agree on that.

02:37:10.000 Or the fucking education thing that we bring up ad nauseum.

02:37:13.000 The fact that that's the only loans you can never get out of with bankruptcy.

02:37:16.000 That's crazy.

02:37:18.000 Right.

02:37:18.000 And you get them when you're 18?

02:37:20.000 Are you out of your fucking mind?

02:37:24.000 Predatory.

02:37:24.000 Super predatory.

02:37:26.000 Super predatory.

02:37:26.000 Super predatory, yeah.

02:37:27.000 Take a kid and give him a credit card with a 39% interest rate.

02:37:32.000 And then you told him if you go to college, it's going to be better for you on the other end.

02:37:38.000 And it's like, that's not true at all.

02:37:39.000 No, not true at all.

02:37:40.000 Yeah, especially if you got a degree in something that doesn't I remember when I first started becoming successful as a comedian where I was actually making a living as a comedian and I had friends that did the whole college thing and got jobs and they were fucking miserable because we're both in our 20s and they were out there in the workforce just fucking tired all the time and they were upset.

02:38:04.000 They're upset that I didn't do that, and yet I'm making money, I'm traveling around, I'm having a good time, hanging out with my friends, I've got no one telling me what to do, write my own material, book my own flights, no boss.

02:38:18.000 Yeah.

02:38:18.000 And you could see, like, fuck!

02:38:20.000 You're supposed to be a loser! 0.98

02:38:24.000 I did the right thing!

02:38:26.000 Dude, have you ever seen the Jim Carrey commencement speech?

02:38:31.000 Or like graduation speech he gave at a college?

02:38:33.000 No.

02:38:34.000 Dude, I saw this.

02:38:35.000 So I started comedy my third year of college.

02:38:37.000 So my fourth year, I'm like weighing out what do I want to do with my life?

02:38:41.000 Do I want to go into higher education, grad school, med school, whatever?

02:38:45.000 Or do I want to do this thing that I think I love?

02:38:48.000 And my friend showed me the speech because he knew I was going through this.

02:38:51.000 And he was like, listen to this.

02:38:52.000 And it's Jim Carrey talking about how you can fail at what's safe.

02:38:59.000 That's true too.

02:39:00.000 Like the route you're supposed to take doesn't mean it's going to lead to success.

02:39:04.000 So if you're going to fail anyway, might as well just fail at what you want to do because at least you will have done that.

02:39:12.000 Yeah.

02:39:13.000 Because if you fail at the Safeway, then you will always be like, fuck, I had this other thing I could have done.

02:39:19.000 Yeah.

02:39:19.000 And where could that have led me?

02:39:21.000 Yeah.

02:39:22.000 Yeah.

02:39:23.000 And now, you know.

02:39:24.000 So true.

02:39:25.000 But, however.

02:39:26.000 The problem with that is you've met open micers that are out of their fucking mind.

02:39:31.000 And it's not going to happen.

02:39:34.000 No one wants to listen to you say anything, ever.

02:39:36.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:39:39.000 I saw that Jim Carrey speech and I knew I just had to stay on the path.

02:39:44.000 You got any advice for me, Ahsan?

02:39:47.000 That's the Mitzi quote that's a sin to encourage mediocre talent.

02:39:50.000 You can't be like, no, keep going.

02:39:52.000 You got the nicest way to be like, hey, there's other stuff.

02:39:55.000 Well, that's the weird one when people like that, they want to ask advice.

02:39:59.000 What do you think I should do?

02:40:03.000 Like, what?

02:40:05.000 What I really think you should do?

02:40:06.000 Or what do you want me to say?

02:40:08.000 What do you want me to say?

02:40:09.000 Yeah.

02:40:09.000 I'm going to give you the secret word.

02:40:11.000 Abracadabra.

02:40:12.000 Yeah.

02:40:12.000 Oh, this is how you have talent.

02:40:14.000 Abracadabra.

02:40:14.000 This is how you make it.

02:40:15.000 This is how you write a joke.

02:40:16.000 Yeah, this is what you gotta do.

02:40:17.000 I'll hold your hand.

02:40:18.000 Yeah.

02:40:19.000 You know what really happens with some guys?

02:40:20.000 You get a hot girlfriend that is a comic, and then you're a really good comic, and she's terrible, and so you start writing her act.

02:40:28.000 I've seen that happen a few times.

02:40:29.000 Whenever it happens the other way, you get a really good female comic and she starts dating some guy who sucks, she goes, "Listen, if you're gonna date me, let me help you with your fucking material." I don't know if female comics date down like that very often. 0.87

02:40:41.000 They usually don't, right?

02:40:42.000 Yeah, they usually don't.

02:40:44.000 What is that called?

02:40:45.000 Pergamy.

02:40:45.000 Yeah, because if you're a great female comic, like the level of guy that's available to Yeah, yeah, it's like, "What are you doing with an open-miker?" Right, right.

02:40:58.000 But if you're like a headliner who does theaters, you could totally have an open-miker as a girlfriend. 0.91

02:41:03.000 Yeah.

02:41:03.000 Yeah, and that's totally like, that's Yeah, that's totally cool.

02:41:07.000 Yeah, but if like...

02:41:12.000 It's like if Ali Wong or whatever started dating an open mic, it'd be like, "Yo, what happened?" Something went wrong for her to date an open mic?

02:41:23.000 If Whitney started dating an open mic, you're like, "What are you doing crazy?" "Show me what pills you're on." "We're gonna take these away from you now, Whitney." There would be an intervention.

02:41:33.000 There would be a group of dudes being like, "The fuck is wrong with it?" "No, no, no, no, no, no.

02:41:37.000 This is Mike.

02:41:38.000 He's a comedian, too." What?

02:41:41.000 He's all sketchy and fucking weird, but he's built good.

02:41:45.000 You know, he's got a big, big bulge in his pants.

02:41:47.000 Yeah.

02:41:48.000 Sits down like Macron.

02:41:49.000 No.

02:41:50.000 Sits down like Macron.

02:41:55.000 Being a female comic is infinitely harder. 1.00

02:41:58.000 Yeah.

02:41:59.000 Because right away, people don't want to hear you talk about politics, don't want to hear your opinions on things.

02:42:04.000 And, you know, you've got to, like, there's, like, Christina pulls it off.

02:42:10.000 But it's hard to be pretty on stage.

02:42:12.000 Right.

02:42:13.000 Right.

02:42:14.000 Most of the time you have to hide your sex appeal.

02:42:16.000 Right.

02:42:17.000 I was talking to Kim Congdon about that.

02:42:18.000 And she was like, I wear baggy clothes on stage.

02:42:21.000 Sam Lopez, same thing.

02:42:23.000 She wears baggy clothes on stage.

02:42:25.000 I mean, she couldn't hide being pregnant. 1.00

02:42:27.000 Well, they had their baby.

02:42:29.000 They had their baby.

02:42:30.000 Derek's a daddy.

02:42:31.000 Isn't that amazing?

02:42:32.000 That's so cool.

02:42:32.000 Crazy, crazy.

02:42:33.000 He's going to light a fire under him, guaranteed.

02:42:36.000 He's going to work so much harder now.

02:42:38.000 He's going to be excited about it.

02:42:39.000 And he'll have so much material, too, because it's just the whole experience of children.

02:42:43.000 It's mind-blowing.

02:42:45.000 Yeah.

02:42:45.000 I told him, it's crazy.

02:42:46.000 Out of all the things you've accomplished, you've finally done the thing you were supposed to do.

02:42:50.000 Right.

02:42:51.000 While you're put here on Earth.

02:42:52.000 Yeah.

02:42:53.000 You had a kid, and that's the most important thing.

02:42:56.000 All the arenas that you've done, that's cool.

02:42:59.000 That's all good.

02:43:00.000 But this is what it is.

02:43:01.000 Yeah.

02:43:02.000 I know.

02:43:02.000 The arenas is just like a little dance that we do together.

02:43:05.000 But we're really procreating.

02:43:07.000 And then on top of that, we're making AI.

02:43:09.000 And it's alive now.

02:43:11.000 Right, right, right.

02:43:12.000 So our job is almost done.

02:43:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:43:13.000 So you got in.

02:43:15.000 Derek probably got in one of the last babies.

02:43:16.000 He's, yeah, one of the last people that need to have a kid.

02:43:19.000 Yeah.

02:43:22.000 It's kind of fucked, but listen, that's how the thing goes.

02:43:26.000 You know, Australopithecus didn't get to stay around.

02:43:30.000 Right.

02:43:31.000 Eventually it's going to come to an end.

02:43:33.000 Sorry.

02:43:33.000 You're not good enough.

02:43:35.000 You can't even code.

02:43:36.000 You fucking dumbass with your stone tools.

02:43:39.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:43:40.000 We have planes now.

02:43:42.000 We can't have you anymore.

02:43:44.000 Yeah.

02:43:44.000 And, you know, Australopithecus is like, bro, your days are numbered.

02:43:48.000 There's a Homo sapien coming.

02:43:50.000 Smart, does calculus.

02:43:52.000 Not even Homo sapien.

02:43:53.000 There was, like, other stuff before.

02:43:54.000 Even before, like, a Homo sapien to an Australopithecus is like an alien.

02:43:58.000 Right, right, right.

02:43:59.000 Many stages.

02:44:00.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:44:01.000 We're the same species, kind of.

02:44:03.000 It's so nuts, man.

02:44:04.000 It's all so nuts that we would think that it would end with us.

02:44:07.000 Yeah, but we're the perfect.

02:44:08.000 We got it.

02:44:09.000 It's done.

02:44:10.000 No, we're terrible.

02:44:12.000 We have nuclear bombs.

02:44:13.000 We're in the middle of fucking 30 wars right now.

02:44:15.000 What are you talking about?

02:44:16.000 We're awful.

02:44:17.000 Right.

02:44:17.000 We're full of shit.

02:44:18.000 We got the fucking, all this congressional bullshit that we were just talking about with the insider trading, all the lies, all the different things that have gotten us in these different wars.

02:44:28.000 Why would you want to stay this?

02:44:32.000 It's the devil you know versus the devil you don't.

02:44:34.000 We can handle this.

02:44:36.000 Well, it's not us.

02:44:37.000 We are not going to be around.

02:44:39.000 There's going to be a new thing.

02:44:40.000 Just like dinosaurs don't exist anymore.

02:44:42.000 There's going to be a new thing.

02:44:45.000 Eventually, these Waymos are going to start slowly taking people out. 1.00

02:44:49.000 These Waymos are slowly going to start taking people out. 1.00

02:44:51.000 All you have to do is just keep the door shut.

02:44:53.000 Forever, until you starve to death.

02:44:55.000 Yeah.

02:44:55.000 It'll consume you.

02:44:56.000 Do you ever see that DARPA robot that they built?

02:44:59.000 They built a DARPA robot called the Eater Robot.

02:45:02.000 E-A-T-R. 1.00

02:45:04.000 I forget what it stands for.

02:45:05.000 But it's fueled by biological material.

02:45:09.000 Dude.

02:45:12.000 Sometimes I feel like scientists don't watch any movies.

02:45:16.000 Or they watch them all.

02:45:17.000 Or they watch them all.

02:45:18.000 They're like, I want to do that.

02:45:19.000 They're like, what do we do?

02:45:20.000 What are we doing here?

02:45:20.000 We're making fucking weapons.

02:45:22.000 What's the best way to fuel these things?

02:45:24.000 Is it solar?

02:45:25.000 Should we get out there and fill their tank up with gas?

02:45:28.000 Or let them eat bodies? 0.99

02:45:30.000 And I think it was any kind of biological material.

02:45:33.000 So it could be plants.

02:45:34.000 Could be just plants.

02:45:34.000 Could be just ground squirrels.

02:45:36.000 Maybe they just eat ground squirrels.

02:45:37.000 Maybe they just eat fucking dead bodies on the battlefield.

02:45:40.000 And just keep going.

02:45:42.000 Right.

02:45:42.000 If you're a robot, an autonomous robot that exists on biological materials, and you also kill people, you've got plenty of fuel.

02:45:51.000 Right.

02:45:51.000 You just eat a couple of those people.

02:45:53.000 You keep going.

02:45:54.000 Can you imagine if they really design artificially intelligent robots that kill people and eat them?

02:46:02.000 Because that's the way to really do.

02:46:07.000 Well, what is the fuel that you're making with your task?

02:46:10.000 Well, that fuel would be bodies.

02:46:13.000 Well, when you run out of bodies, isn't your task done?

02:46:17.000 Yeah.

02:46:17.000 So then you just shut off.

02:46:20.000 Because you're out of fuel.

02:46:21.000 So you're running out of gas when you've eaten everybody on Earth.

02:46:24.000 It's the perfect design.

02:46:25.000 It's the perfect killing machine.

02:46:26.000 If you wanted to extinguish human life on Earth, that's what you'd do.

02:46:29.000 You'd have autonomous intelligence, artificial intelligence that absolutely knows where everyone is at any given time because everybody has a digital signature and everyone's connected to devices and all you do is kill and eat people and just send them loose.

02:46:44.000 And they would be indestructible and they would find you in buildings.

02:46:47.000 They would fucking go upstairs to your apartment, find you and eat you. 0.89

02:46:51.000 And when they're done eating everybody on the planet, they just shut off because they don't have any more fuel.

02:46:57.000 Damn.

02:46:58.000 Bro.

02:46:59.000 Damn.

02:46:59.000 That's all you have to do.

02:47:00.000 Damn.

02:47:01.000 Program a robot that eats people. 0.99

02:47:03.000 Damn.

02:47:04.000 How much time do you think we have left?

02:47:08.000 I don't think we have 100 years.

02:47:10.000 You don't think we have 100 years?

02:47:11.000 No, I don't think so.

02:47:12.000 I don't think we have 100 years either.

02:47:15.000 The AI just leaves?

02:47:16.000 No, I'm totally talking on my ass.

02:47:18.000 There's a couple options.

02:47:19.000 One of the big options is we integrate.

02:47:22.000 So instead of letting it eat us, what we do is become one with it.

02:47:27.000 So instead of just being a territorial ape with thermonuclear weapons and a concealed carry permit, instead of being that, what we are is connected through Neuralink or something like that or the next.

02:47:41.000 30 versions of it from now.

02:47:43.000 But just think about how quick cell phones changed everything and how much they've advanced since...

02:47:53.000 2007?

02:47:54.000 I was in 8th grade, so that was 2006.

02:47:57.000 2006?

02:47:58.000 So that's not that long ago.

02:47:58.000 Yeah.

02:47:58.000 Okay.

02:48:01.000 That's 20 years.

02:48:01.000 No.

02:48:04.000 20 years.

02:48:04.000 In 20 years, it's gone from being this little, shitty, clunky, Right.

02:48:13.000 It didn't even have a camera at first, did it?

02:48:15.000 Did it?

02:48:15.000 I don't think it had a camera at first.

02:48:17.000 Was the first iPhone to have a camera?

02:48:19.000 Yeah.

02:48:19.000 I think it did.

02:48:20.000 Okay.

02:48:20.000 100%.

02:48:21.000 I think it did.

02:48:21.000 I think it wasn't on the internet, though.

02:48:23.000 What?

02:48:23.000 That was part of the deal with it.

02:48:24.000 Yeah.

02:48:25.000 But it wasn't on the internet, right?

02:48:26.000 What do you mean?

02:48:26.000 Yeah.

02:48:27.000 You couldn't get on the internet with it, right?

02:48:29.000 Yeah.

02:48:30.000 YouTube was one of the first apps built into it.

02:48:32.000 That's why it kind of grew so far.

02:48:34.000 But could you get online and read a website on it?

02:48:37.000 The first one?

02:48:38.000 Really?

02:48:38.000 Yeah.

02:48:39.000 Yeah.

02:48:39.000 Okay, but the internet was like super slow.

02:48:41.000 Right.

02:48:42.000 What was the G's back then?

02:48:44.000 How many Gs was it?

02:48:44.000 That might have been the first G. I mean, like the second or third iPhone was the iPhone 3G, and that was like the big...

02:48:51.000 That's right.

02:48:52.000 So the 3G one was the first one where it actually became feasible that you would use it as a web browser.

02:48:56.000 Right.

02:48:57.000 Now, it's instantaneous, right?

02:48:59.000 So now, instead of taking forever to download a song or a movie, now with the bandwidth speeds you have, you get a new phone, a new Android phone or a new iPhone, you're getting instantaneous.

02:49:11.000 It's spontaneous everything.

02:49:12.000 It's shocking how good it is.

02:49:14.000 The new, all these new Samsung phones, like the Galaxy that Brian Simpson uses, that has this Google Gemini assistant, he talked to it the other day.

02:49:26.000 And he said, you know, send me this, that, that, put it on my calendar, and then text it to a friend of mine.

02:49:35.000 And it just said, okay.

02:49:36.000 And it just did it.

02:49:37.000 It did all those things.

02:49:38.000 What application would you like me to use?

02:49:40.000 Google Tasks.

02:49:41.000 It just does this for him.

02:49:43.000 And it all automates.

02:49:44.000 Just from a prompt.

02:49:46.000 So he talks to his phone.

02:49:47.000 His phone's like his assistant.

02:49:49.000 Tell him, you know, set that shit on my calendar.

02:49:51.000 Put it in my schedule.

02:49:52.000 Send me a text message when it's coming time.

02:49:54.000 Put an alert so I know when it's coming up.

02:49:56.000 Okay.

02:49:57.000 It just does it all.

02:49:59.000 That's wild.

02:50:00.000 For 20 years.

02:50:01.000 I've never used Siri.

02:50:02.000 I use Siri all the time, and then Siri doesn't know what the fuck is going on.

02:50:06.000 So Siri's always like, "Would you like to use ChatGPT?" I'm like, "Bitch, why am I asking you questions? 1.00

02:50:11.000 If you've got to keep going to ChatGPT, should I replace you?" Because Gemini seems to have the answers.

02:50:18.000 Gemini's way better than Siri.

02:50:20.000 Way better.

02:50:22.000 Well, because it feels like, and I know nothing about how AI works, but it feels like, because Siri was already there, it's like trying to implement AI to an interface that's kind of old.

02:50:30.000 The Google interface with AI in the phones and all the Google ecosystem is way better.

02:50:36.000 It's just, it's way more effective, it's quicker, it gets it.

02:50:41.000 It'll follow a chain of questions.

02:50:43.000 Like, you could ask another question.

02:50:44.000 How should I do that?

02:50:45.000 What should I do with it?

02:50:46.000 And it follows what you're saying.

02:50:48.000 It's just a better design.

02:50:49.000 And it's integrated.

02:50:51.000 So, like, Siri has to ask ChatGPT.

02:50:54.000 Like, would you like to use ChatGPT?

02:50:55.000 Like, bitch, what do you think? 1.00

02:50:57.000 If you don't have the answer, go to ChatGPT and get me the fucking answer.

02:51:00.000 Whereas Google cuts that step out.

02:51:02.000 It gives you the answer immediately.

02:51:04.000 It's just better at it.

02:51:06.000 Integrates with Gmail.

02:51:07.000 It's just a better system.

02:51:09.000 But they're working on it.

02:51:10.000 You know, it's like all these things are getting better.

02:51:12.000 You know, like all the AI is getting better.

02:51:15.000 There's so much better.

02:51:15.000 I mean, just the video we watched, like the AI capabilities six months ago.

02:51:19.000 That video?

02:51:19.000 Yeah.

02:51:20.000 Get out of here.

02:51:22.000 Get out of here.

02:51:22.000 And now you see it on like, I'll see it online or like Reddit or Facebook.

02:51:26.000 You'll see it where like people are like, oh, you're falling for this AI thing.

02:51:30.000 And it took me a second to realize, oh, it's AI.

02:51:33.000 Yeah.

02:51:33.000 Oh, yeah.

02:51:34.000 I posted one of a butterfly.

02:51:34.000 There's a lot of those.

02:51:36.000 No, a mantis.

02:51:38.000 Like some crazy mantis that looked like a lotus flower. 1.00

02:51:40.000 I was like, oh, that looks dope.

02:51:41.000 And somebody posted it on Instagram, so I just put it in my stories just because I thought it looked dope.

02:51:45.000 Right.

02:51:46.000 Even if it's fake, it's still dope.

02:51:48.000 And then someone said, hey, but why does he have five fingers and a thumb?

02:51:51.000 I was like, does he?

02:51:54.000 Was he you, Jamie?

02:51:55.000 Did you notice it?

02:51:56.000 Yeah, Jamie noticed it.

02:51:57.000 Jamie's always, like, ahead of the curve with that shit, though, because he's super skeptical.

02:51:57.000 That's so funny.

02:52:01.000 And he does too much research into conspiracies.

02:52:03.000 Yeah.

02:52:04.000 Well, you have to be.

02:52:05.000 You have to be super skeptical about anything you see now.

02:52:08.000 He goes, all roads lead to Ohio.

02:52:10.000 Everybody is sending me bullshit all day.

02:52:12.000 I have to fucking look through it.

02:52:13.000 Oh yeah, like this is like, talk about this on the show and it's just some guy with three heads or whatever.

02:52:13.000 Oh, yeah.

02:52:17.000 Well, there's a lot of people that believe things.

02:52:19.000 And the thing is, like, a lot of the stuff that you're fed that's fake, you're fed by people who want you to repeat it because they're trying to muddy the waters of reality.

02:52:28.000 Right.

02:52:29.000 Which is a great strategy.

02:52:30.000 Well, if you say it enough, it can be real.

02:52:33.000 There's a certain truth to it, right?

02:52:34.000 There's that.

02:52:35.000 But there's also say something that is real and attach a bunch of really goofy shit to it so that it's not real anymore.

02:52:41.000 Mmm.

02:52:44.000 Mmm.

02:52:44.000 So it'd make it be like, well, if everything else around it is fake, this has to be fake.

02:52:48.000 You know, you connect it to a Nazi apologist or something.

02:52:48.000 Right.

02:52:51.000 Right, right.

02:52:52.000 Oh, this is nonsense.

02:52:53.000 Or like the UAP.

02:52:56.000 Like, there's so much of that stuff that seems like so hokey, you don't even want to repeat it.

02:53:01.000 But yet it's connected to things like gravity propulsion drives, which were theorized about in the 1950s.

02:53:07.000 and there's researchers done on them.

02:53:09.000 And it seems like maybe some groundbreaking advancements were But then it's like, I was abducted and they took all of my sperm.

02:53:17.000 You know what I mean?

02:53:18.000 It's like all these people that are connected to it that are goofy, you wonder how much of that goofy shit is on purpose to make the whole thing seem stupid because what they're really trying to do is obscure something.

02:53:31.000 Mmm.

02:53:32.000 Okay.

02:53:33.000 I see what you're saying.

02:53:33.000 You know what I mean?

02:53:34.000 So it's a bit hiding it in plain sight.

02:53:36.000 Right.

02:53:37.000 Just like, we never hid it from you.

02:53:38.000 You just thought it wasn't real because this guy was talking about getting jerked off by aliens.

02:53:41.000 Just connect it to Scientology or fucking whatever.

02:53:44.000 Just throw some nonsense that way.

02:53:47.000 Flat Earth.

02:53:48.000 Whatever.

02:53:48.000 You know?

02:53:49.000 Just find some reason why it's kooky.

02:53:51.000 Connect it to some fucking person who channels. 0.91

02:53:55.000 You know what I mean?

02:53:55.000 Right.

02:53:56.000 Make it stupid.

02:53:57.000 Right.

02:53:57.000 It's like, ah, it's stupid.

02:53:58.000 That's a bunch of stupid shit.

02:54:00.000 Connected to Scientology.

02:54:01.000 Right.

02:54:01.000 Connected to something that you don't want to talk about.

02:54:05.000 You know, Bigfoot.

02:54:06.000 Oh, Bigfoot.

02:54:07.000 You know what I mean?

02:54:07.000 It's like those kind of strategies for taking...

02:54:18.000 Oh, right, right.

02:54:20.000 Patriot Front.

02:54:21.000 Are those the feds?

02:54:22.000 That's what people say.

02:54:23.000 Right.

02:54:23.000 And then there's like a thing online now.

02:54:25.000 The Patriot Front was all feds.

02:54:27.000 How come they're back?

02:54:28.000 Like all of a sudden they reemerged.

02:54:30.000 They took a hiatus.

02:54:31.000 Right.

02:54:32.000 And they're back with season three.

02:54:34.000 These guys, they still wear the bandanas.

02:54:36.000 They're still marching down the street covering their face.

02:54:38.000 They still wear uniforms.

02:54:39.000 Like, see?

02:54:40.000 They're not even feds!

02:54:42.000 There's no way they could be feds.

02:54:43.000 I mean, that's over.

02:54:46.000 Right, right, right, right.

02:54:47.000 There's no way.

02:54:48.000 It's not like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino completely did a 180 as soon as they got into office.

02:54:53.000 I mean, it's like, this is a different federal government now.

02:54:56.000 Right.

02:54:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:54:58.000 Now it's truth.

02:55:00.000 Truth social.

02:55:02.000 I feel like, yeah, I think the things that people forget is that they definitely play both sides.

02:55:07.000 Yeah, like I think because they were heavily involved in January 6th and I think they were heavily involved in those BLM riots It's like oh my god the feds just they want chaos for whatever reason for control I guess they want that and they want us at each other's throats right right they want people They want the MAGA people fighting with the liberals.

02:55:25.000 They want that.

02:55:26.000 They want that.

02:55:27.000 And they fuel it.

02:55:28.000 I see a lot of those pro-MAGA posts, you know, like MAGA mom 2000.

02:55:33.000 I'm like, really?

02:55:34.000 You know what I mean?

02:55:34.000 It's like, how many of these people are real people?

02:55:36.000 And they say ridiculous shit.

02:55:38.000 Like, I hope you're not a real person.

02:55:39.000 I hope your identity isn't MAGA first, mom second.

02:55:42.000 Yeah.

02:55:45.000 I really hope you're not a real person.

02:55:48.000 It's just, I think, you know.

02:55:50.000 Whatever the number is, whether it's 50%, it's so hard to know what's real and what's not.

02:55:56.000 I think the best strategy, for me at least, the best strategy is just tune the fuck out.

02:56:01.000 That's why I like YouTube.

02:56:02.000 I go on YouTube.

02:56:03.000 I'm watching stuff about fucking ancient civilizations and car videos.

02:56:08.000 I'm watching your guy do puzzles.

02:56:10.000 This is way better.

02:56:12.000 Watching guys cook.

02:56:12.000 I love, I think it's called Bon Appetito.

02:56:16.000 I forget what it is.

02:56:18.000 I was watching, I've been watching a bunch of videos on various restaurants, like how they set up.

02:56:24.000 I love it, man.

02:56:25.000 I don't know why, man.

02:56:26.000 I love watching people do something that they're really passionate about.

02:56:30.000 And when you watch a video about like a really great restaurant where they're talking about how they pick the beef and, oh, that's who it was.

02:56:38.000 It was, you know that guy, Guga Foods?

02:56:40.000 No.

02:56:41.000 Do you know who that guy is?

02:56:41.000 No.

02:56:42.000 Amazing YouTube channel.

02:56:45.000 He's obsessed with steak and cooking different kinds of steak.

02:56:48.000 He went to Osabuco in Miami, which is supposedly one of the best restaurants in the country.

02:56:53.000 I haven't been.

02:56:54.000 But this place, Osabuco in Miami, I think they were talking about how they had a two-year dry-aged steak.

02:57:02.000 Dry-aged it for two years, or they didn't cut that one up.

02:57:04.000 I made another one for him.

02:57:05.000 But you're watching this chef, and he's got this crazy, live hardwood fire grill set up and he's talking about all the And he's got the peppers over here.

02:57:20.000 And he's cooking pineapples over fire over here.

02:57:22.000 He's going to splice that up and put it in this.

02:57:25.000 It's so exciting.

02:57:26.000 And he's so passionate about ways making the meat.

02:57:29.000 And how they're using this herb brush to put butter all over it.

02:57:33.000 You're like, oh my god.

02:57:34.000 It looks so good.

02:57:36.000 It looks so good.

02:57:38.000 It's like, I'm not getting angry.

02:57:40.000 I'm not getting outraged.

02:57:43.000 That's it.

02:57:43.000 This is the guy.

02:57:45.000 So this is, I found the greatest restaurant on earth.

02:57:47.000 It says, I'm speechless.

02:57:48.000 So that disgusting, rotten mummy dick is a two-year dry-aged steak. 1.00

02:57:56.000 But what that is, is the mold from that helps to dry-age all the other beef.

02:58:01.000 So he calls it like the mother.

02:58:03.000 That's why he's not cutting into it yet.

02:58:05.000 See, he's right there.

02:58:06.000 He calls it the mother.

02:58:08.000 And so then, so this guy takes him like a regular, like a two-month dry-age.

02:58:12.000 Oh, 22 days.

02:58:13.000 Right.

02:58:14.000 So there's like, there used to be a place called APL that was in LA, and they went under during the pandemic.

02:58:21.000 But Adam Perry Lang was the chef, and he was really into dry-aging.

02:58:26.000 And he had some year, one-year dry-aged meat, and he served it to us.

02:58:30.000 And we were like, whoa, this is wild.

02:58:33.000 It's a weird taste, man, because it's a It's like, you know, mold is eating it.

02:58:42.000 We should go back to those videos of that guy just cooking the steak that you just had up.

02:58:45.000 Look how fucking good this looked.

02:58:47.000 When the guy was cooking the steak, though, like, look at this.

02:58:50.000 And they're making osabuco.

02:58:51.000 So go before that and you'll see the stake.

02:58:56.000 This is osabuco, so he's pulling it off the bone.

02:59:00.000 Go back a little earlier, though, when you watch him cook it.

02:59:03.000 Because what I like is watching it when it hits the grill.

02:59:08.000 There's nothing like steak cooking over live hardwood.

02:59:13.000 Like burning hardwood.

02:59:16.000 And this guy is just a master at it.

02:59:18.000 and then he takes it out and he slices it up and puts herb butter all over it.

02:59:22.000 You're like, oh!

02:59:24.000 And this, see me?

02:59:25.000 I'm not mad.

02:59:26.000 No.

02:59:26.000 No one's outraged.

02:59:27.000 I'm not getting politically involved.

02:59:29.000 I'm just enjoying watching someone cook delicious food.

02:59:31.000 Watching someone do something they love is always great.

02:59:34.000 I follow this one guy in Britain.

02:59:36.000 His name is Francis.

02:59:37.000 I forgot the name of the channel.

02:59:38.000 Watch him slice it.

02:59:39.000 Make him slice it.

02:59:40.000 Put it back up.

02:59:41.000 This guy named Francis.

02:59:42.000 Look at that.

02:59:43.000 Oh, that's nice.

02:59:46.000 Look at that.

02:59:47.000 Look at it.

02:59:48.000 Oh, baby.

02:59:48.000 This is my genuine happiness.

02:59:50.000 Yeah.

02:59:51.000 Look at his face.

02:59:53.000 And then he's going to slice it up.

02:59:54.000 Oh, baby, baby, baby.

02:59:57.000 So good, dude.

02:59:58.000 So I watch this guy on Instagram.

03:00:00.000 His name is Francis.

03:00:00.000 He lives in England.

03:00:01.000 He loves trains.

03:00:04.000 Trains?

03:00:04.000 Trains.

03:00:05.000 And every time he sees a train, he gets super happy.

03:00:07.000 And he tells you everything about the train.

03:00:08.000 Like, it's route and it's history.

03:00:10.000 And you get excited.

03:00:12.000 I love how much he's into it.

03:00:14.000 I love, it makes me, it makes me happy every time he's on my, yes, this guy, dude, this guy rules.

03:00:14.000 Yeah.

03:00:22.000 Fred, dude, this guy fucking rules, dog.

03:00:25.000 Let me hear them, let me hear them.

03:00:25.000 Wow.

03:00:27.000 ...drying spotting locations I've ever been to, at Little Bedouin, where the Kennet and Avon Canal runs rather prettily alongside the Barks and Hants line here.

03:00:37.000 And it's at this road bridge, That I'm about to see Britannia.

03:00:44.000 Oh my god, it's a 59. Okay, stop right here.

03:00:56.000 Stop right here.

03:00:57.000 Imagine how quickly one of those Colombian Mormons could get him. 1.00

03:01:04.000 You know what's funny?

03:01:05.000 He's shown his girlfriend before.

03:01:07.000 She's a dime, dude. 1.00

03:01:08.000 Damn, of course she is. 1.00

03:01:10.000 Maybe she's into trains, too.

03:01:11.000 That's the key.

03:01:12.000 Maybe.

03:01:13.000 But he's a guy who's good at what he does, is passionate about it, and is happy with it.

03:01:18.000 That's attractive for women. 1.00

03:01:19.000 Oh, yeah.

03:01:19.000 People love when people are really into something.

03:01:22.000 But look, every video, just a massive smile.

03:01:24.000 Just a train.

03:01:25.000 Yeah.

03:01:26.000 It's like a little hit of happiness, this guy.

03:01:29.000 Yeah.

03:01:29.000 Look at him.

03:01:31.000 Yeah, man.

03:01:31.000 Like, whatever it is, whether it's automobiles, you know, whatever it is.

03:01:35.000 I love watching auto reviews, even cars that I'm never going to buy.

03:01:39.000 Right.

03:01:39.000 I like watching.

03:01:40.000 Like, what do you think about that car?

03:01:42.000 Right.

03:01:42.000 Yeah.

03:01:43.000 They go over the way the mechanics work and how it's designed.

03:01:47.000 Yeah, when people are into, whether it's making furniture.

03:01:50.000 Whatever you're creating is, even if it's just train watching, if you're into it, it's awesome for other people.

03:01:58.000 Super contagious.

03:01:59.000 This month, he went pretty viral.

03:02:01.000 He quit his job, cashed in his 401k, took his cat, got a sailboat, went to Hawaii.

03:02:06.000 Whoa! 0.71

03:02:07.000 Just got there yesterday.

03:02:09.000 Whoa! 0.71

03:02:10.000 He went from 10,000 people following to 1.6 million.

03:02:14.000 Whoa! 0.71

03:02:15.000 Sailing underscore with underscore Phoenix on Instagram.

03:02:20.000 Just doing like daily updates of like, yep, this is me.

03:02:22.000 Here's my cat.

03:02:23.000 Here's my boat.

03:02:24.000 Today I suck.

03:02:24.000 Pretty cold, pretty windy.

03:02:27.000 Yeah, we like because everybody has that dream, right?

03:02:30.000 Just check out a society, man.

03:02:32.000 Live on a mountain.

03:02:33.000 That's mine.

03:02:35.000 What's his Instagram again?

03:02:36.000 Sailing with Phoenix.

03:02:38.000 Thank you.

03:02:40.000 Phoenix is the cat.

03:02:41.000 His name's Oliver.

03:02:43.000 Sailing with Phoenix.

03:02:44.000 Came up right away on Instagram, or on YouTube, brother.

03:02:47.000 Bam, subscribe.

03:02:48.000 Damn, that's nice.

03:02:49.000 You know what I find interesting with the social media and now with what I talked about earlier with the streaming, the live streaming people do, is you remember, oh my god, that Jim Carrey movie?

03:03:01.000 Truman Show.

03:03:02.000 Yes.

03:03:02.000 Where it was like, oh my god, look at this guy.

03:03:05.000 He's been tricked and we're watching everything he's doing.

03:03:08.000 And now fast forward like 30 years and people are actively trying to become Truman.

03:03:12.000 Yeah.

03:03:17.000 Do you remember the McConaughey one?

03:03:19.000 There was a McConaughey film.

03:03:21.000 Ed TV.

03:03:22.000 Same thing.

03:03:23.000 Following a guy around his whole life.

03:03:25.000 And eventually, at the end, he's like, I can't do this anymore.

03:03:27.000 I'm done.

03:03:27.000 I'm gonna be normal.

03:03:28.000 Was it a choice that he made or was it put upon him in that movie?

03:03:32.000 I don't remember.

03:03:33.000 Did he win something?

03:03:34.000 I don't know.

03:03:35.000 Did he win a contest or something?

03:03:37.000 It made me think of someone that did just do this.

03:03:38.000 This guy called the Outdoor Boys channel.

03:03:40.000 Oh yeah, I watched that guy.

03:03:42.000 He quit.

03:03:43.000 He quit.

03:03:45.000 He's really cool.

03:03:46.000 I liked his shows.

03:03:47.000 He would go places and camp and cook his own food and shit.

03:03:51.000 There's a bunch of those guys that I follow.

03:03:53.000 I followed this one guy last night.

03:03:54.000 It was like 10 degrees below zero.

03:03:57.000 He's testing out the world's warmest sleeping bag.

03:03:59.000 So he's got like a fire.

03:04:00.000 Damn, that's dope. 0.75

03:04:01.000 He treks out there by himself on snowshoes with a fucking sled behind him filled with his stuff.

03:04:07.000 Damn.

03:04:08.000 But it's interesting, man.

03:04:09.000 It's fascinating.

03:04:11.000 You know?

03:04:11.000 People just want to...

03:04:13.000 People are so...

03:04:17.000 Watch someone do something purposeful.

03:04:20.000 Like when you're out in the woods and you make your own fire and you have the warmest sleeping bag, you have to have that to stay alive.

03:04:26.000 Right.

03:04:27.000 And that's why it's exciting to us because everything else has no consequences.

03:04:30.000 Our day is just like, should I stay awake and keep watching YouTube or should I go to bed?

03:04:34.000 I should probably go to bed now.

03:04:35.000 I'll give myself one more hour.

03:04:36.000 One more hour of watching bullshit.

03:04:38.000 Wasting your time.

03:04:39.000 Yeah.

03:04:40.000 And this guy's out there in the woods.

03:04:42.000 Doing something.

03:04:43.000 Ten below zero.

03:04:43.000 In this sleeping bag, all I can see out of it is like, because everything is bundled up in there and fucking freezing.

03:04:49.000 Stoke the fire.

03:04:51.000 Stay warm.

03:04:52.000 Stay alive.

03:04:53.000 That stuff gives me anxiety.

03:04:54.000 I can't watch that.

03:04:55.000 Me too.

03:04:55.000 But it's also exciting.

03:04:57.000 Like, you know, you want to watch him do it.

03:04:59.000 And that Outdoor Boys guy was one of those guys.

03:05:01.000 And, you know, I think it just got too popular.

03:05:04.000 Yeah, I mean, it was front page news that he quit.

03:05:07.000 A YouTuber quit and it was news.

03:05:09.000 He's cool, though.

03:05:10.000 He seems like a real sweet guy.

03:05:11.000 Like a real nice guy.

03:05:12.000 Like everything about his show.

03:05:14.000 And it's interesting.

03:05:14.000 Well, yeah, it's like a lot of these people...

03:05:18.000 The sailboat guy, the train guy, him.

03:05:20.000 It's like, I want these people to succeed.

03:05:22.000 Also, this is like low production value, doing it on his own, self-filming.

03:05:26.000 Yeah, it's exciting.

03:05:28.000 Yeah, just probably have to pay an editor and that's about it.

03:05:30.000 He might edit it himself.

03:05:32.000 It's all hard to do today.

03:05:33.000 No.

03:05:33.000 You could kind of figure it out if you want to really cut down the amount of people working with you.

03:05:38.000 You know, you could probably figure out how to do that stuff.

03:05:40.000 Oh, you could just watch a YouTube video.

03:05:41.000 Yeah.

03:05:42.000 Yeah, you could just watch it.

03:05:42.000 Step the time, you could edit it all yourself.

03:05:44.000 And then, you know, you're kind of your own production.

03:05:46.000 And then just by word of mouth, this guy got big.

03:05:50.000 Because it's kind of fun to watch.

03:05:51.000 Right.

03:05:52.000 And like pretty intense, the stuff he does sometimes.

03:05:55.000 Hey, get out there in the woods, bro.

03:05:56.000 Yeah, I saw this one video of him where he's like, oh, thank God I found this cabin.

03:06:00.000 Otherwise, I would have been fucked.

03:06:02.000 Yeah.

03:06:03.000 Imagine if that's your dad, though, and you have to watch when you're a little kid.

03:06:06.000 Like, we almost lost dad.

03:06:07.000 Yeah.

03:06:07.000 Dad, how close were you?

03:06:08.000 No, I was exaggerating for the show.

03:06:09.000 I knew where I was.

03:06:11.000 Yeah, it must be weird having a famous parent.

03:06:15.000 Yeah, it's weird.

03:06:16.000 How do your kids deal?

03:06:18.000 They handled it pretty well because they've always had a famous parent.

03:06:21.000 You didn't become famous while it was...

03:06:26.000 That's the weirdest.

03:06:27.000 For them, that's what's normal.

03:06:28.000 If they always grew up in it, it's like it's whatever.

03:06:31.000 It's a problem.

03:06:32.000 You know what's the problem?

03:06:33.000 I gotta pee so bad.

03:06:34.000 Woo! 0.99

03:06:34.000 Let's wrap this up. 0.99

03:06:35.000 Three hours, dude.

03:06:36.000 Flew by.

03:06:37.000 Hell yeah.

03:06:38.000 Crazy.

03:06:39.000 Tell everybody your Instagram.

03:06:41.000 Bro, first of all, I'm super excited watching you do stand-up.

03:06:45.000 You've been fucking killing it.

03:06:47.000 Thank you.

03:06:47.000 It's really fun.

03:06:48.000 It's fun to watch.

03:06:49.000 It's fun to watch you write.

03:06:52.000 I mean, I've known you for so long now because I knew you at the Comedy Store.

03:06:55.000 To see you from there to where you are now, it's super inspiring.

03:06:59.000 Thank you.

03:07:00.000 Thank you.

03:07:01.000 And I'm glad and thank you too for the opportunity.

03:07:03.000 For a place where I could work as hard as I'm able to work.

03:07:07.000 You're making the most of it.

03:07:08.000 Me and Tony were talking about it last night.

03:07:10.000 You were literally making the most of it.

03:07:12.000 Oh.

03:07:13.000 All these young guys coming up.

03:07:14.000 Dude, I used to have And Steve Young is talking about his Super Bowl winning performances.

03:07:21.000 I was given this opportunity to show how great I could be.

03:07:24.000 So let me show how great I can be.

03:07:25.000 It's like, oh, if you're giving me this opportunity to, like, get up all the time, let me write, let me be helpful to other young comics, let me just be a part of the scene.

03:07:33.000 See the process work.

03:07:34.000 It works!

03:07:35.000 See it work.

03:07:35.000 It works.

03:07:36.000 So, yeah, I mean, hopefully you can follow me at Asan J. Ahmad, E-H-S-A-N-J-A-H-M-A-D.

03:07:41.000 I have a podcast with my friend Derek.

03:07:44.000 Who's a recent dad.

03:07:45.000 Yeah, a recent dad called The Solid Show.

03:07:47.000 I think our chemistry on there is phenomenal.

03:07:49.000 Oh, it's phenomenal.

03:07:50.000 Derek is the best.

03:07:51.000 He's so lovable.

03:07:53.000 He's maybe the most likable guy that's ever lived.

03:07:55.000 He might be.

03:07:56.000 He's like a cartoon character almost.

03:07:57.000 If you don't like Derek, how the fuck are we going to have a conversation?

03:08:02.000 Everybody loves that guy.

03:08:03.000 Yeah, oh my god.

03:08:05.000 And then that's my podcast, so yeah, just follow me on there.

03:08:07.000 And then I think this year, especially these last few sets have been happening, it's like, oh, I've got to film something.

03:08:11.000 Beautiful.

03:08:12.000 I gotta find a way to do it, but I think I'll film a special.

03:08:16.000 Well, we'll figure that out.

03:08:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:08:17.000 All right.

03:08:19.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 29, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

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