The Joe Rogan Experience - June 06, 2025


Joe Rogan Experience #2334 - Kash Patel


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Former Director of the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives ( ATF) Joe Biden joins Jemele to discuss his career in law enforcement, including his time as ATF Director. He also talks about how the agency is doing a great job combating the growing problem of fentanyl.

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00:00:12.000 All right, what's going on, man?
00:00:14.000 How you doing, Joe?
00:00:15.000 Very good to see you, sir.
00:00:16.000 Thanks for having me in Austin.
00:00:17.000 What is it like to be the head of the FBI?
00:00:19.000 How weird is that?
00:00:20.000 It's completely effing wild.
00:00:24.000 I mean, I don't even know how to describe it.
00:00:26.000 What was it?
00:00:27.000 What did you think it was going to be like?
00:00:29.000 And what was different once you got in there?
00:00:33.000 I thought that we were going to be able to come in with the movement that President Trump came in with, the administration, to fix the errors that the leadership of the FBI previously made, not like the 37,000 change people.
00:00:52.000 And we are.
00:00:53.000 We're doing a ton of work.
00:00:56.000 I didn't know we would be able to do this quickly.
00:00:59.000 Is my surprise.
00:01:01.000 And what that showed me was the people at the Bureau, literally, people who've been there, 30-year agents, they're coming up to me and be like, dude, we wanted to do that 15 years ago.
00:01:10.000 Really?
00:01:10.000 We wanted to do that 10 years ago.
00:01:12.000 And then my question was, you guys are the pros.
00:01:15.000 My job as the director, I'm not chasing down bad guys, I don't know how to do that, is to give them what you need and get the hell out of the way.
00:01:21.000 And they were like, dude, all they did was get in the way.
00:01:24.000 So, like, what kind of stuff specifically did you – Simple.
00:01:32.000 the one that I've taken the biggest heat for.
00:01:34.000 You know, when I said, hey, there are...
00:01:42.000 I don't know where else to go because nobody else does these, right?
00:01:45.000 In the last calendar year, not this one, the year before last.
00:01:48.000 100,000 people were dying of drug overdoses a year.
00:01:51.000 That's one every seven minutes.
00:01:52.000 A child or kid was being raped every six and a half minutes in this country.
00:01:56.000 And there were two homicides an hour in this country.
00:02:00.000 And we have a 38,000-person workforce.
00:02:04.000 And I said, okay, where are the agents?
00:02:07.000 Where is everybody?
00:02:07.000 Where are intel analysts?
00:02:08.000 We got 55 field offices.
00:02:10.000 We got 300 what we call RAs, resident agencies.
00:02:12.000 So satellite offices, the field offices in major cities.
00:02:15.000 And they said, well...
00:02:21.000 So if you take D.C. and you do a 50-mile, 60-mile radius around it, 11,000, almost a third of the workforce worked there.
00:02:29.000 And I said, what the hell are they doing there?
00:02:31.000 They said, well, they mandated if you want a promotion, if you want to move up, you've got to come back here and prioritize stuff here.
00:02:36.000 So I said, look, we're moving agents and intel analysts to the field.
00:02:39.000 And that's what I did.
00:02:40.000 1,500 people are going to the field because a third of the crime doesn't happen in Washington, D.C. and the 65 miles around it.
00:02:46.000 And everybody was like, we've been wanting to do this forever.
00:02:49.000 I mean, just think about it.
00:02:50.000 One agent out in Indian country, one agent out in Texas, Arkansas, Washington state, prevents a homicide, conducts a major drug bust, stops a ton of fentanyl or meth from coming into our country.
00:03:03.000 One agent can do that.
00:03:04.000 And the agents that I talk to now from around the country are just stoked.
00:03:10.000 That's awesome.
00:03:11.000 That's great news.
00:03:12.000 That really is great news because the fentanyl thing scares the shit out of me.
00:03:16.000 It really does.
00:03:17.000 Well, it's one of the things I want to hammer down on, but whenever you want to get into that.
00:03:20.000 Yeah, please.
00:03:22.000 Yeah.
00:03:23.000 It's so terrifying.
00:03:24.000 Because, you know, we've shown it on the podcast, the amount that'll kill you.
00:03:27.000 Yeah.
00:03:28.000 It's so small.
00:03:29.000 It's like the tip of a pencil.
00:03:30.000 Yeah, it's like point something something milligrams.
00:03:33.000 It's nothing.
00:03:38.000 I love doing this long-form stuff, and this is the only long-form interview I'm going to do.
00:03:41.000 Oh, thank you.
00:03:41.000 I hope you know.
00:03:42.000 I do one interview.
00:03:43.000 I'm honored.
00:03:43.000 I do one interview a month.
00:03:45.000 One.
00:03:45.000 And it's usually like a five-minute TV thing just to keep you abreast.
00:03:49.000 And we do a lot of stuff on social media.
00:03:50.000 But I've been looking forward to this for a long time.
00:03:53.000 Even when I was on the campaign, I was just, this is like, So fentanyl, right?
00:03:58.000 Everybody's like, how do you attack fentanyl?
00:04:00.000 How do you stop this stuff?
00:04:01.000 Okay.
00:04:01.000 Yes, let's go after the gang, excuse me, the narco-terrorists down in Mexico.
00:04:06.000 100%.
00:04:07.000 You got to go after the cartels, the drug trafficking organizations.
00:04:10.000 You got to shore up the southern border.
00:04:11.000 The president has done an amazing job at both of those things.
00:04:14.000 Made it a priority.
00:04:16.000 So we have decreased the amount of fentanyl being moved around, let's say, right?
00:04:23.000 But not necessarily coming into the United States.
00:04:26.000 So where's the root of the problem?
00:04:29.000 The CCP.
00:04:30.000 So the fentanyl precursors, the stuff you need to make fentanyl, comes from mainland China.
00:04:36.000 That's it.
00:04:37.000 Now, I'm sure like 1% of it comes from somewhere else in the world.
00:04:40.000 But that's where it comes.
00:04:41.000 They've got hundreds of companies standing up in mainland China shipping this stuff out into the world.
00:04:48.000 Now, their cover is that – OK, so there's like a minimal use for it.
00:05:02.000 And what the CCP has done is they've come out and said this is like the biggest like talk about the devil pulling the wool over the world's eyes.
00:05:11.000 They're like, we don't make fentanyl.
00:05:13.000 They're right.
00:05:14.000 They don't.
00:05:14.000 They just give you all the ingredients for it and ship it to Mexico.
00:05:18.000 And then what they did was, to trick the world, they came out and said, hey, we're going to not sell Precursor X. They're like, so now we're out of the fentanyl trade entirely.
00:05:30.000 The problem is, there's 14 other precursors you can use to make fentanyl, and they're still shipping all of those.
00:05:36.000 So what we did when I got to the bureau is we stood up this massive enterprise to go after fentanyl precursor companies in mainland China.
00:05:45.000 And they're probably not going to like that.
00:05:47.000 And what they're doing now to get cute is they're shipping that stuff not straight to here.
00:05:51.000 They're going to places like India, and I'm also doing operations in India.
00:05:55.000 And they're having the Mexican cartels now make this fentanyl down in Mexico still.
00:06:01.000 But instead of going right up the southern border and into America, you know what they're doing?
00:06:04.000 They're flying it into Vancouver.
00:06:06.000 They're taking the precursors up to Canada, manufacturing it up there, and doing their global distribution routes from up there because we were being so effective down south.
00:06:17.000 Yeah, it's a huge lift.
00:06:20.000 But part of it is Americans just don't understand the depth and depravity of fentanyl.
00:06:26.000 But what's worse is fentanyl, you don't hear fentanyl deaths in China.
00:06:30.000 You don't hear fentanyl deaths in India.
00:06:32.000 You don't really hear fentanyl deaths in England, Australia, New Zealand, or Five Eyes partners in Canada.
00:06:37.000 The Chinese, in my opinion, the CCP... 0.99
00:06:49.000 And their long-term game is this.
00:06:53.000 How do I, in my opinion, kneecap the United States of America, our largest adversary?
00:06:59.000 Well, why don't we go and take out generations of young men and women who might grow? 0.92
00:07:10.000 And that's what they're doing when you wipe out tens of thousands of Americans a year.
00:07:13.000 It's a long-term plan for them.
00:07:16.000 That is such a dark, dark thing.
00:07:19.000 It is, but we're on it.
00:07:24.000 What else could be done with the Chinese companies?
00:07:29.000 Has there ever been any negotiation with Xi Jinping?
00:07:33.000 The United States where you could lighten up tariffs or do something and make some sort of a deal?
00:07:40.000 Or is it just so profitable for them that they're going to do it no matter what if they can?
00:07:44.000 Here's the thing.
00:07:45.000 They're not making a ton of money off of it.
00:07:48.000 So it's really just for that purpose.
00:07:50.000 You could sell fentanyl precursors unless you jacked up the price to exorbitant amounts of money.
00:07:55.000 They're not making a ton of money.
00:07:57.000 And so it's an all-of-government approach.
00:07:59.000 So I'm working with guys like the Secretary of Treasury to do sanctions on some of these companies, right?
00:08:04.000 Then I'm working with our Five Eyes partners.
00:08:06.000 And our Five Eyes are the five English-speaking countries in the world, Canada, America, England, New Zealand, and Australia, right?
00:08:14.000 We share intelligence.
00:08:15.000 We share classified intelligence on this stuff.
00:08:16.000 So I'm asking them.
00:08:17.000 I said, hey, it's not just affecting us.
00:08:20.000 It will affect you and your population.
00:08:23.000 The CCP just hasn't directed it at you yet.
00:08:26.000 And they know that.
00:08:27.000 And I said, guys, I need your help.
00:08:28.000 I'm looking at intelligence reporting that shows fentanyl precursors are now in your country.
00:08:34.000 The fentanyl itself isn't being deployed into your country.
00:08:37.000 But it's there being manufactured.
00:08:39.000 And so I'm asking for their help to shut down those factories and production facilities.
00:08:44.000 And I'm asking the Mexican government's help to come and say, hey, your drug trafficking organizations are now exporting the manufacturing of fentanyl and getting creative in the ways in which they obtained fentanyl precursors.
00:08:56.000 So they'll say, oh, we didn't get it from China.
00:08:58.000 We got it from India.
00:08:59.000 We got it from wherever.
00:09:01.000 And it's too cute by a half.
00:09:03.000 It's not like there's been a reduction.
00:09:06.000 In the amount of fentanyl precursors that mainland China produces.
00:09:10.000 What there has been a reduction in is President Trump's administration's aggressive approach to just crush the fentanyl trafficking.
00:09:19.000 And unfortunately, our adversaries adapt.
00:09:22.000 We're so good down south on the border here.
00:09:24.000 And we're so good in Mexico that they're moving it elsewhere.
00:09:28.000 Jesus.
00:09:30.000 We're going to get them.
00:09:31.000 I promise you.
00:09:32.000 I promise the president and the American people.
00:09:34.000 We will not have kids dying of fentanyl overdoses in our streets.
00:09:38.000 Just give me a little bit more time.
00:09:40.000 We have a massive operation going on around the world on this.
00:09:43.000 Well, that's great news.
00:09:45.000 It's great to hear.
00:09:46.000 So the fentanyl, a lot of it is, it's not just fentanyl overdoses, right?
00:09:52.000 It's opiate overdoses overall.
00:09:54.000 How much...
00:09:55.000 Is a lot of it because people get hooked on pills and, like, and then they want more and then they can buy...
00:10:05.000 Or is it molly and things like that that have been laced with fentanyl?
00:10:11.000 So, great question.
00:10:12.000 Nobody asks these questions.
00:10:14.000 This is probably why your show is number one.
00:10:17.000 They are so demonic in their ways.
00:10:21.000 They're like, we'll make fentanyl.
00:10:24.000 People can go use fentanyl and get killed on fentanyl.
00:10:27.000 Then what they do is they manufacture as part of this, they being the drug trafficking organizations, once they get the precursors from the CCP, they take their pill presses and they make fake oxycodone.
00:10:37.000 So like literally, I'm just giving an example.
00:10:39.000 Make tens of thousands of pills of fake oxycodone and we bust them for it.
00:10:43.000 And in that fake pill is fentanyl.
00:10:46.000 It's laced with fentanyl that kills people.
00:10:49.000 Then the drug trafficking organizations, to make it appealing for the youth, shape this illicit narcotic in the form of like candy and gummy bears.
00:10:59.000 So you hear about kids in New York who just happen to have like a trace amount touching it somewhere, also dying from it.
00:11:08.000 Absolutely no rules or boundaries whatsoever when it comes to how they deploy fentanyl to get into our population.
00:11:15.000 It could be through another drug.
00:11:16.000 It could be through a synthetic.
00:11:18.000 It could be through a fake drug.
00:11:19.000 Or it could be like, hey, and we've seized it.
00:11:21.000 Thousands of pounds of material that looks like candy.
00:11:24.000 Are they doing it specifically to try to get people to overdose on candy?
00:11:28.000 Or are they selling this candy as a drug?
00:11:30.000 They're selling it as a drug.
00:11:32.000 OK.
00:11:33.000 And they're just saying it looks like candy.
00:11:35.000 It just looks appealing to kids, right?
00:11:37.000 Like so inner city youth, they're like, hey, put a pill down on the table. 1.00
00:11:42.000 Put a gummy bear down on the table.
00:11:44.000 You know, a younger person to be like, oh, that's cool.
00:11:47.000 I mean, I can tell you stories from now until the entire show about high school kids on the verge of graduating.
00:11:47.000 Let me try that.
00:11:52.000 And they went out and took a pill that they thought was, you know, an upper.
00:11:57.000 But it happened to be laced with fentanyl.
00:11:59.000 They died.
00:12:00.000 Their parents are calling.
00:12:02.000 They're destroyed.
00:12:03.000 And people are like, well, we got to go after the drug traffickers.
00:12:06.000 I'm like, we do and we are.
00:12:08.000 But what my job is to educate the American public on the root cause of the fentanyl that is destroying our society.
00:12:16.000 And it's the fentanyl precursors that I've asked.
00:12:19.000 I literally just got off the phone with the Indian government.
00:12:22.000 I said, I need your help.
00:12:23.000 This stuff's coming into your country.
00:12:25.000 And then they're moving it from your country because India is not consuming fentanyl.
00:12:30.000 No one's dying over there from fentanyl.
00:12:30.000 They're not.
00:12:32.000 But I need you and your help.
00:12:34.000 So my FBI is over there working with the heads of their government, law enforcement authorities, to say, we're going to find these companies that buy it and we're going to shut them down.
00:12:43.000 We're going to sanction them.
00:12:44.000 We're going to arrest them where we can.
00:12:45.000 We're going to indict them in America if we can.
00:12:47.000 We're going to indict them in India if we can. 1.00
00:12:49.000 Start indicted in places like Canada and the UK and England and Australia.
00:12:53.000 This is a global problem.
00:12:54.000 And the reason it's gotten so bad is because nobody did anything for four years.
00:13:00.000 You know, people are like, how do they stand this up?
00:13:01.000 Well, if you give the CCP, who has an endless amount of money to deploy in human capital, that's what happens.
00:13:07.000 It metastasizes.
00:13:08.000 Why didn't anybody do anything for four years?
00:13:11.000 Have you been able to figure that out?
00:13:13.000 Look, to me, I'm a national security guy.
00:13:16.000 And anything that kills 100,000 people a year is a national security crisis, right?
00:13:20.000 It's what we call a tier one threat.
00:13:22.000 And the last administration did not classify the drug trafficking enterprise as a Prime threat against the American people.
00:13:32.000 And so what happens is you reorient the system of intelligence collection operations.
00:13:38.000 I mean, I'm not making this up.
00:13:39.000 They said climate change is our biggest priority.
00:13:42.000 DEI is our biggest priority.
00:13:43.000 I mean, you guys have heard this and you've had guests on that say.
00:13:45.000 But these are the ramifications in real life.
00:13:48.000 I only have...
00:13:52.000 Same with the CIA, same with the DOD.
00:13:54.000 But if the United States government and Uncle Sam and your commander-in-chief said, hey, I need your X amount of people looking here, I can't clone that army to look back at fentanyl.
00:14:04.000 Plus, we have to follow the chain of command.
00:14:07.000 It's so crazy that they would say climate change and DEI were the priorities for the FBI.
00:14:13.000 Well, for the government.
00:14:15.000 For the government in total.
00:14:16.000 So I'll give you a better example.
00:14:17.000 So I was – in the end of the last Trump administration, I was chief of staff at the Department of Defense, one of the greatest jobs – at the time, I thought the greatest job I'd ever have.
00:14:25.000 And when we left, we said, hey, Iran is a huge threat. 1.00
00:14:29.000 We got to never let up on the counterterrorism mission.
00:14:32.000 We still have hostages out there we got to find and bring home.
00:14:35.000 And the narcotics mission is a big priority.
00:14:37.000 We handed off our playbook and we said, look, this is not a political issue.
00:14:41.000 This is protecting the American people and our allies.
00:14:44.000 So we hope you guys continue this effort.
00:14:46.000 So the DOD has this thing called...
00:14:50.000 The Department of Defense has 3 million employees.
00:14:52.000 And a CONOP is how you move the machine of the Department of Defense.
00:14:56.000 Hey, we have a threat in Indopaycom.
00:14:57.000 How many carrier groups are we sending down there? 0.86
00:14:59.000 We got a threat with government X. What are we doing operationally, kinetically?
00:15:05.000 What are we doing intelligence collection?
00:15:06.000 That's a CONOP.
00:15:07.000 The first concept of operation that the Biden administration launched at the Department of Defense was on climate change.
00:15:16.000 You can't make this shit up.
00:15:18.000 What do you think that's all about?
00:15:21.000 As an outsider, as someone looking at it going, I just don't understand.
00:15:25.000 Where's the profit in this?
00:15:27.000 What's the motive?
00:15:29.000 What would incentivize all these people to get on board with it without someone logically stepping in and saying, hey, this is not our top priority?
00:15:36.000 I think at its – so that was something I tried to answer when I was out of government for the last – And the answer laid in the first Trump term.
00:15:52.000 We were doing things so effectively on national security that hadn't been done before in such speed and volume that the media hated us for it because the other party had tried to do it and failed.
00:16:07.000 What things specifically?
00:16:09.000 So when it comes to – OK.
00:16:12.000 Hostages.
00:16:13.000 I could talk about that forever, too.
00:16:14.000 It used to be counterterrorism was a big portfolio.
00:16:16.000 I ran it for the White House, the National Security Council, and the first Trump administration.
00:16:20.000 We brought home, people don't know this, President Trump in his first term brought home and rescued over 50 hostages and detainees from around the world.
00:16:28.000 That's more than every president before him combined.
00:16:31.000 Wow.
00:16:33.000 Did you hear about the successes of reuniting families with lost loved ones from Africa and the Middle East or these operations that the president was courageous enough to greenlight to go into places like Afghanistan and do these hostage rescue ops and use SEAL Team 6 and Delta or take out guys like Baghdadi and Soleimani?
00:16:51.000 President Trump's directive was simple.
00:16:54.000 We are going to protect the homeland.
00:16:55.000 We're not going to endanger the lives of our armed forces and our intelligence community.
00:17:00.000 But their job is to protect the homeland.
00:17:02.000 And he said, go.
00:17:03.000 And we went.
00:17:05.000 And I think there was such a resounding success that the media had such a hatred for President Trump and his administration.
00:17:13.000 They just said, one, we're not going to give you the credit.
00:17:15.000 Two, we're going to put out a ton of disinformation, which we can get into.
00:17:18.000 And three, when it came time to transition governments from Trump to Biden, they just said, we're not going to do – and this is my opinion – we're not going to do anything.
00:17:34.000 So we're going to go off on our end.
00:17:35.000 And I keep asking people to prove me wrong.
00:17:38.000 Like, tell me something you did in that administration that carried out the apolitical national security mission to a T. I mean, you had the Secretary of Defense in the Biden administration go down, go to a hospital, MIA, literally AWOL, and didn't tell the Commander-in-Chief.
00:17:58.000 And broke the National Command Authority.
00:18:00.000 There is a reason, and I was a guy responsible for that nuclear football for part of my time at the White House, that that thing, and there is an unbroken chain of command between the President of the United States, the Secretary of Defense, and the National Command Authority at all times, because shit happens.
00:18:15.000 And what if it had happened in that one or two weeks the guy was in the hospital, and maybe something did, and we don't even know, right?
00:18:21.000 But no one, including the President, Didn't know the Secretary of Defense was in the hospital.
00:18:26.000 I can't tell you how big of a cataclysmic failure for the national security mission that is.
00:18:32.000 And what I tell people when they're like, that's all right, it's not that big of a deal.
00:18:35.000 What if Hexeth took a week out and said, I'm going to the hospital, I'm not telling anyone.
00:18:40.000 What do you think the media would do to that guy and Trump if that were to happen now?
00:18:45.000 Yeah, it would be catastrophic.
00:18:47.000 Yeah.
00:18:47.000 Yeah.
00:18:48.000 So this person went to the hospital for what?
00:18:51.000 What was the...
00:18:55.000 Isn't the lighter over there?
00:18:56.000 I got it.
00:18:57.000 Yeah, you got it.
00:18:58.000 What were they in the hospital for?
00:19:01.000 So Secretary Austin was in the hospital for medical issues.
00:19:04.000 And I'm not saying you shouldn't have treatment.
00:19:06.000 Right, but there should be someone else.
00:19:08.000 There's a plan in place.
00:19:09.000 The Deputy Secretary of Defense comes in.
00:19:12.000 Every time a senior goes out, there is a continuity of government plan in place.
00:19:16.000 Oh, you're out for a weekend treatment?
00:19:17.000 No problem.
00:19:18.000 But they just hid all this?
00:19:20.000 They hid it.
00:19:21.000 That's insane.
00:19:22.000 And we broke it.
00:19:23.000 We discovered it and we broke it.
00:19:25.000 And it wasn't the only time he did it.
00:19:27.000 It was the second time.
00:19:28.000 Or the guy would end up doing it another time.
00:19:31.000 Why would they do that?
00:19:32.000 Just to hide the fact that they're sick?
00:19:34.000 Well, that I think is up for debate.
00:19:37.000 People are old and they get sick. 0.97
00:19:38.000 No big deal.
00:19:40.000 Everybody needs treatment.
00:19:41.000 Everybody's got to go to Walter Reed or whatever.
00:19:42.000 Do you think that he thought it would hurt him politically if he looked weak?
00:19:48.000 Speculation.
00:19:49.000 Yeah, I don't know if I can answer that.
00:19:50.000 And the secretary at the time, Secretary Lloyd Austin, was like a 45-year military man.
00:19:55.000 It's not like this was new to him.
00:19:57.000 He'd been doing it his whole life.
00:19:59.000 Next man up.
00:20:00.000 So he had made a decision to try to keep it private.
00:20:02.000 Intentionally.
00:20:03.000 And he would come out later to say, well, I just wanted to keep it private.
00:20:06.000 And I said, hey, man, your life when you're the secretary of defense, director of the FBI, director of the CIA, it ain't about being private.
00:20:12.000 That's gone.
00:20:13.000 You signed up to serve the mission.
00:20:15.000 And when you do that knowingly, you – Wow.
00:20:25.000 So you were saying there's a bunch of misinformation that was put out or disinformation.
00:20:31.000 Like what was that?
00:20:34.000 So my thing is all roads lead to Russiagate, right?
00:20:37.000 That's where it all started.
00:20:39.000 I was coming out of my tour at JSOC as a civilian and DOJ.
00:20:48.000 I would end up going to Congress to run this thing called Russiagate, which at the time, no one knew anything.
00:20:53.000 It was just a whatever.
00:20:54.000 And then it became what it became.
00:20:56.000 And I would be the guy, the lead investigator on the Hill who said, hey, man, look, they lied in the FISA application.
00:21:01.000 Let me give you Russiagate in 90 seconds.
00:21:02.000 Okay.
00:21:02.000 Could you imagine a time in the United States of America in the 21st century where a political party...
00:21:22.000 Then take that material, package it, walk it to the FBI, literally, and say, hey, we need you to surveil the opponent.
00:21:31.000 Of our political party who happens to be running for the president of the United States, then convince the FBI to go into a secret federal FISA court that I used to use to manhunt terrorists and say, hey, I need you to wiretap essentially all the comms in and around Trump camp because of the material we gave you and then have that FBI lie to the federal court and the judge in that warrant application, which is a felony.
00:21:56.000 Intentionally remove information of innocence from that application just to get it above the threshold so the judge would sign it.
00:22:03.000 That's Russiagate.
00:22:05.000 That's what they did.
00:22:06.000 And you remember the years and years of reporting surrounding Russia.
00:22:09.000 The FBI would never lie.
00:22:11.000 They would never do that.
00:22:12.000 The leadership there is above reproach.
00:22:14.000 James Comey, Andy McCabe, Peter Strzok.
00:22:16.000 The list goes on.
00:22:17.000 We caught him red-handed.
00:22:19.000 You've seen the text messages.
00:22:19.000 We caught him.
00:22:20.000 You've seen the documentation.
00:22:21.000 You've seen the reports.
00:22:22.000 But when I did that, when I exposed that initially as a staffer on the Hill, Adam Schiff comes out and has his cronies leaked to the world that I – There was actually an article that called me- Genocidal dictator?
00:22:42.000 Hang on, it gets better.
00:22:43.000 Yeah, no, it gets better.
00:22:44.000 How do you get to be a dictator?
00:22:45.000 I don't know.
00:22:46.000 Genocidal one, let alone, right?
00:22:47.000 Like, you know, it's a twofer.
00:22:49.000 His words don't even mean anything anymore.
00:22:52.000 No, literally there's an article out there that they called me Torquemada, the guy from the Spanish Inquisition.
00:22:58.000 Jesus Christ.
00:22:59.000 And I was a staffer.
00:23:00.000 So the rule was, you can ding- elected representatives all you want in the media.
00:23:05.000 You don't touch staffers.
00:23:07.000 They didn't care because they knew what I had on earth was the biggest political criminal But hang on, that's the kicker.
00:23:24.000 So what people don't know about Russiagate that weren't paying attention was that warrant that initially kicked off the FISA surveillance on the Trump campaign writ large was substantiated by FBI leaks to the media.
00:23:39.000 Two of the articles cited in that warrant from, I think, Mother Jones and Yahoo News were leaks of information from the same leadership at the FBI, Peter Strzok, Andy McCabe, James Comey and company.
00:23:52.000 And then they, in the application, would be like, hey, it's not just us saying that Trump's a Russian asset, right?
00:23:59.000 Look at this article, Mr. Judge, on the federal FISA court.
00:24:05.000 And they included it in that application.
00:24:07.000 So this was a coordinated conspiracy to take down your political opponent by weaponizing government.
00:24:15.000 And now I say that now in 2025.
00:24:18.000 When I said that in 2017, whatever it was, people were like, you're out of your effing mind.
00:24:25.000 And I was like, look, man, I'm just showing you the facts.
00:24:27.000 I'm not making this up.
00:24:28.000 I'm showing you the application.
00:24:29.000 I'm showing you the documentation.
00:24:30.000 And that's when they came after me.
00:24:32.000 And it hasn't stopped ever since.
00:24:34.000 But the damage they did, they, the media, and the people that wanted to take out Trump, and I didn't care what you thought about.
00:24:41.000 And remember, back then, I hadn't met Trump, never spoken to him, didn't know him.
00:24:45.000 I took that job at Congress on one condition.
00:24:48.000 I said, whatever we find, we're putting out.
00:24:50.000 I'd been in for 16 years at that point, Democrats, Republicans.
00:24:53.000 I was a national security guy, intel guy.
00:24:55.000 That's what I wanted to do, chase terrorists, chase bad guys, bring hostages home and help protect the homeland.
00:25:01.000 And I said, I don't know if Trump did this.
00:25:03.000 I don't know if he was colluding with whoever.
00:25:06.000 I didn't know it turned out like this, that they would actually manufacture and make it up.
00:25:10.000 But half of America to this day still believes the narrative that the CNNs of the world pushed for five years.
00:25:16.000 And if you look on their shows now, Russiagate keeps coming back up because we keep exposing the documents that showed how bad these guys were.
00:25:25.000 And most Americans are like, no, no, they're already convinced.
00:25:28.000 So in order to fix that disease temple.
00:25:31.000 It is just that much harder of a lift for me to go back into the FBI.
00:25:35.000 We're going to get it done.
00:25:36.000 But it takes so much more communication and so much more energy to get after the American people and say, you were lied to.
00:25:46.000 Because that's the hardest thing I think people can ever admit to themselves.
00:25:49.000 You were lied to.
00:25:50.000 I went out for years and created a life cycle.
00:25:53.000 Out of this lie of Russiagate.
00:25:55.000 I went on TV.
00:25:56.000 I wrote books.
00:25:56.000 I made money.
00:25:57.000 I sold political advertisements based on it.
00:26:00.000 I educated my children based on it because I thought it was the truth.
00:26:06.000 And some of them have come back and said, yeah, we got it wrong.
00:26:10.000 But most haven't.
00:26:11.000 And that's the disinformation.
00:26:13.000 Seed, in my opinion, that started it all.
00:26:16.000 And then you could talk about things like January 6th or pick your poison, rescuing a hostage or what have you.
00:26:21.000 The media just never got on board.
00:26:24.000 They kneecapped Trump from the beginning by participating in the Russiagate collusion conspiracy with the FBI.
00:26:32.000 It's so crazy that someone could do something like that and a whole enormous group of people could do something like that with no repercussions.
00:26:40.000 And to be able to operate and say they're the trusted source of news.
00:26:45.000 And you were a part of something that was one of the biggest scandals in political history.
00:26:50.000 But just because it's targeted towards Trump, people look the other way.
00:26:55.000 Like if that was targeted towards Obama, could you imagine how psychotic?
00:27:00.000 The response would be people would be up in arms and furious.
00:27:04.000 But the same people that would be up in arms and furious if somebody tried to do that for Obama are completely silent if it's happening to Trump.
00:27:11.000 Yeah, just think about it.
00:27:13.000 What if me as the FBI director in the Trump administration, right, during a presidential cycle went out there and said, hey, Republican National Committee, do you guys have dirt on whoever's running?
00:27:24.000 For the Democratic nomination to be president of the United States.
00:27:27.000 If you don't, can you go overseas and pay a foreign national who used to be an MI6 guy?
00:27:32.000 Get me some bogus intel.
00:27:33.000 Then I, as the FBI director, will authorize a warrant, a leak to the media while I'm doing it, take their articles, put it in that warrant, and then go surveil the opponent so he doesn't get elected.
00:27:43.000 I would be in prison, which I should be for doing anything like that.
00:27:47.000 That's so crazy.
00:27:48.000 And that's what people want accountability for.
00:27:49.000 And that's what you asked me at the beginning of the show.
00:27:51.000 You know, what's the hardest part?
00:27:54.000 I'm like, hey, I'm the guy that is exposing and giving you the accountability from 2017 onwards.
00:28:01.000 But I wasn't the guy in charge of putting people in prison and arresting them for this conduct.
00:28:06.000 And so the other education campaign I have to go on is there's this thing called the statute of limitations.
00:28:12.000 I can't prosecute people for their crimes in the past that the statute of limitations has run.
00:28:16.000 And I'll give you a great example that goes right back to Russiagate.
00:28:24.000 The systems I've created, maybe because of my time in Russiagate, is I'm committed to congressional oversight.
00:28:30.000 I'm committed to giving Congress the documents they need to do their work and give them to the American people.
00:28:36.000 Unredacted.
00:28:37.000 No classification BS.
00:28:39.000 You want it.
00:28:40.000 You get it.
00:28:41.000 So we – just think about this.
00:28:44.000 Me as the director of the FBI, the former Russiagate guy, when I first got to the bureau, found a room that Comey and
00:28:52.000 others – What's in there?
00:29:14.000 A lot of stuff.
00:29:16.000 I mean, that's the thing.
00:29:17.000 People are like, well, okay, go arrest him.
00:29:18.000 And I'm like, okay, well, how about you let me run a methodical investigation while I give over information?
00:29:23.000 One of the things we gave over before this, the room deal was, I don't know if you remember who Nellie Orr is.
00:29:29.000 It doesn't really matter.
00:29:30.000 Nellie Orr's husband.
00:29:32.000 Bruce Orr was like the number four at the Department of Justice, and he was the one who introduced the world to Christopher Steele, the guy that started Russiagate.
00:29:40.000 Well, the entire time her husband was doing that at DOJ, she, Nellie Orr, was working on an outside contract to dig up dirt on Donald Trump.
00:29:49.000 So she goes to the Hill and testifies as a result of our investigation right under oath. 0.60
00:29:53.000 She said, I never worked, and I'm paraphrasing, I never worked with my husband on any of that.
00:29:57.000 I would never do that.
00:29:59.000 What did Grassley put out just yesterday?
00:30:01.000 Two days ago?
00:30:03.000 The Nellie Orr documentation that the FBI hid to the world, that we gave them, where Nellie Orr is caught red-handed providing information to her husband, thumb drives related to Trump-Russia collusion, directly proving that Nellie Orr lied to Congress.
00:30:19.000 Felony.
00:30:20.000 Camp prosecutor.
00:30:22.000 Statute of limitations is gone.
00:30:23.000 That's just one example.
00:30:25.000 Wow.
00:30:27.000 What a dirty business.
00:30:30.000 Yeah, I hate it.
00:30:31.000 Politics, it is just the dirtiest.
00:30:34.000 And in this age of transparency because of the internet and social media and independent news, everybody knows about it now.
00:30:42.000 If CNN and all these left-wing news sources, MSNBC, and it was only Fox on the right, and that was all we had, and we had no internet, all this would be completely secret.
00:30:55.000 No one would have known the Russiagate collusion, all that stuff would be...
00:31:03.000 It would probably take decades before someone wrote a book where people started to really take it seriously and really realize that there was something fucked up about it.
00:31:12.000 Yeah.
00:31:14.000 I'm not allowed to plug my book, so I won't, but I did write a book about it.
00:31:16.000 You can plug your book.
00:31:16.000 Why can't you plug your book?
00:31:17.000 I think there's some rules on it about government.
00:31:19.000 I can plug your book.
00:31:20.000 What's your book?
00:31:20.000 Give it to me.
00:31:21.000 This one's for you anyway.
00:31:21.000 Here you go.
00:31:22.000 Government Gangsters.
00:31:23.000 Oh, Government Gangsters by Cash Patel.
00:31:25.000 Go buy it.
00:31:26.000 Plugged.
00:31:28.000 You didn't plug it.
00:31:29.000 I did.
00:31:29.000 I love it.
00:31:30.000 Did you do the audio?
00:31:32.000 Yeah.
00:31:33.000 Oh, I got somebody to do it.
00:31:33.000 You read it?
00:31:36.000 My voice is not for radio or TV.
00:31:38.000 Oh, come on, man.
00:31:38.000 You got a great voice.
00:31:39.000 I appreciate that.
00:31:40.000 It's taken time and a lot of cigars to get to here.
00:31:43.000 It would be good for you to read it.
00:31:44.000 They should let you read it.
00:31:45.000 But the reason I wrote it is, one, I never thought I was going back into government service.
00:31:50.000 And two, part of the job to completing the mission was exposing what people didn't ever think could happen in the United States of America.
00:31:59.000 And it was not just disinformation, misinformation, but your government and leaders in government weaponizing it for political purposes, not just FBI and DOJ, but others in the IC.
00:32:09.000 And what it shows you is the back end of that too, the rewards, right?
00:32:15.000 The guys that – wrapping it back up or reversing it back up.
00:32:21.000 The guys that were in charge of Russiagate at the FBI, Andy McCabe, right?
00:32:25.000 Remember what this guy did.
00:32:27.000 Andy McCabe.
00:32:29.000 Agreed to set in motion a plan with the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein at the time to have him wear a wire into the Oval Office to record President Trump.
00:32:40.000 Those documents we found, we released them.
00:32:42.000 Put that aside.
00:32:44.000 While Andy McKay was in charge of the Trump-Russia gate collusion investigation, his wife was running for political office in the state of Virginia.
00:32:53.000 Do you know who's funding her campaign for political office to tune to $600,000?
00:32:57.000 Hillary Clinton World.
00:32:58.000 Who happened to be running against Donald Trump.
00:33:00.000 Do you know what Andy McCabe did?
00:33:02.000 He leaked information about the Clinton investigation to the media.
00:33:07.000 Unlawfully.
00:33:09.000 As the deputy director of the FBI.
00:33:12.000 Got caught by us.
00:33:15.000 Then lied about it to federal authorities.
00:33:19.000 And that's the reason Andy McCabe was dismissed.
00:33:22.000 Do you know what the Biden administration did?
00:33:25.000 They allowed him to retire out of the FBI with full benefits.
00:33:31.000 Wow.
00:33:32.000 He got rewarded.
00:33:33.000 You know what he does now?
00:33:34.000 He's on CNN.
00:33:35.000 You know who's also on CNN?
00:33:36.000 Peter Strzok, the head of the counterintelligence unit that had that affair with Lisa Page, who basically put out those text messages, who was running that investigation with Andy McCabe and said, Trump people smell in Walmart and we're never going to let him win.
00:33:48.000 I have an insurance policy.
00:33:49.000 That guy's on CNN.
00:33:51.000 So they get rewarded.
00:33:53.000 For putting on this disinformation campaign, for this illegal activity, because the media will never correct, or some portion of the media will never correct the record.
00:34:03.000 Remember, these guys got Pulitzers, New York Times, same thing.
00:34:06.000 These guys got the biggest award in journalism.
00:34:08.000 They were proven wrong, not by me, by the own evidence created by, you know how I caught these guys?
00:34:16.000 Because these guys were so arrogant, they would write everything down.
00:34:18.000 And I found the documents.
00:34:20.000 Why would they write everything down?
00:34:22.000 They're so arrogant.
00:34:23.000 They think no one's going to catch us.
00:34:25.000 I'm going to write everything down.
00:34:26.000 We're going to put it in a lockbox.
00:34:27.000 We're going to put it in a vault and no one's going to find it.
00:34:30.000 Well, you know what?
00:34:31.000 I found the vault and now I'm going to work.
00:34:34.000 Wow.
00:34:35.000 Now, is there a statute of limitations on those crimes?
00:34:37.000 So generally the statute of limitations on crimes for process crimes that we call them, it's five years.
00:34:44.000 But if you can tie them to an overarching conspiracy, there is no statute of limitations.
00:34:48.000 So if there was more egregious conduct that no one knew about before that we are just finding and we are investigating, then we'll have to relook at it.
00:34:57.000 The one thing we will do is put out all that information to the American public once we actually get through it.
00:35:02.000 And we'll give it to Congress.
00:35:05.000 And if we can work with our partners at DOJ to come up with it.
00:35:08.000 The disturbing thing about all this to me is how people on the left are willing to look the other way because this is just a dangerous precedent.
00:35:21.000 If the federal government is doing this, and they're doing this to someone you consider an enemy, what's to stop this from doing it against your candidate?
00:35:30.000 Like, this is unprecedented behavior that's tolerated and coordinated with the media.
00:35:36.000 It's dangerous for the country.
00:35:39.000 But people are so ideologically captured.
00:35:42.000 They're so locked into their party and by any means necessary, we got to get Trump out.
00:35:49.000 And they push that narrative so hard that they're willing to do a very un-American thing.
00:35:55.000 Yeah.
00:35:56.000 And my goal, now that I'm back in government, is to make sure this doesn't happen again ever.
00:36:04.000 That's the goal.
00:36:05.000 How can you do that?
00:36:05.000 How can you make sure it doesn't happen again ever?
00:36:08.000 Exposing it all.
00:36:09.000 And I know there are people – and look, people keep calling me and saying, when are you going to arrest everybody?
00:36:14.000 When are you going to go out there and arrest everybody that did everything to Donald Trump?
00:36:17.000 I was like, first of all, you guys were barking at people who were in the seat before me to do that and they didn't.
00:36:23.000 They failed.
00:36:24.000 The difference between me and that guy is one, I'm the guy that exposed it.
00:36:26.000 Two, I didn't tell you this.
00:36:29.000 I was the guy they targeted.
00:36:30.000 So while I was doing the Russiagate investigation, do you know what Trump's own DOJ, Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General of the Department of Justice, Christopher Wray, then Director of the FBI, did to me and a dozen other staffers who were working Russiagate?
00:36:47.000 They subpoenaed all of our information while I was running the Russiagate investigation.
00:36:51.000 We wouldn't find out for five years.
00:36:53.000 You want to know why?
00:36:54.000 Because these guys were so vindictive.
00:36:57.000 They went to the federal court and not only got a search warrant.
00:36:59.000 They got a judge to say to all the telecom companies, Google, Facebook, everybody else, your banking companies, everybody, do not tell them for five years that we authorize this subpoena.
00:37:10.000 So I just found that out last year.
00:37:12.000 Wow.
00:37:14.000 This is how hard – this is what I'm trying to show.
00:37:17.000 It's not a Republican or Democratic thing, right?
00:37:20.000 It's an all-hands-on approach to protect the leadership that was so corrupt, to protect themselves and their actions and their friends.
00:37:29.000 My mission is to educate the world that this happened.
00:37:33.000 And as director of the FBI, I have a responsibility.
00:37:35.000 I'm not just going to bring a case because somebody hurt me.
00:37:38.000 They did.
00:37:39.000 And they continue to do it.
00:37:41.000 Shit, my house just got swatted yesterday.
00:37:43.000 What?
00:37:44.000 But...
00:37:45.000 Oh, yeah.
00:37:46.000 The head of the FBI gets swatted?
00:37:50.000 Yeah.
00:37:51.000 Yeah.
00:37:52.000 These people play...
00:37:56.000 They have two sets of rules.
00:37:59.000 One against you and one for them.
00:38:02.000 And what I want to do is lay out that entire body of work for the American people with Congress.
00:38:10.000 And I'm doing it with guys like Grassley and Jordan and Kennedy and Rand Paul on COVID-19.
00:38:16.000 And we could talk about the origins.
00:38:17.000 We actually have some pretty cool developments on that front.
00:38:21.000 And let the American people know that my mission has always been to put out the truth, whatever the consequences are.
00:38:28.000 Whoever it's against, like I did when I signed up for Russiagate.
00:38:31.000 If Donald Trump was a Russian asset and I proved it, I was telling the world that. 0.51
00:38:35.000 That's what matters.
00:38:36.000 And if we can hold people accountable in terms of indictments, then we'll work with our partners at DOJ.
00:38:42.000 But what I'm asking people is don't trust me.
00:38:44.000 I don't care about that.
00:38:46.000 Look at what I have done and what we have done.
00:38:49.000 That's the guy that's now in charge of the FBI.
00:38:52.000 His leadership team is in place.
00:38:53.000 We've got great partners at DOJ.
00:38:55.000 We're the ones working on all this stuff.
00:38:59.000 And look, let's just get to it because I know it's on people's minds.
00:39:03.000 Epstein, right?
00:39:05.000 The reason people are pissed off about that is the same thing, right?
00:39:11.000 20 years ago, or whenever it was, 2006, 7, 8, Epstein gets his sweetheart plea deal, right?
00:39:16.000 After committing the most horrific crimes on planet Earth, right?
00:39:20.000 I wasn't in power there.
00:39:21.000 I wasn't in place there.
00:39:22.000 I had nothing to do with it.
00:39:23.000 But people were rightfully pissed.
00:39:25.000 I mean, this guy was committing the most grotesque ask.
00:39:27.000 Acts you can't against children.
00:39:30.000 And the media spins up about it.
00:39:34.000 Many in the media protected him.
00:39:36.000 Why?
00:39:36.000 Because of his relationships, who he knew, who his bankers were, who his colleagues were, who was on the island and stuff like that.
00:39:42.000 Some pretty powerful human beings.
00:39:44.000 And so when you peel back the layer and then what happened?
00:39:48.000 The Trump administration, the last go-around, decided, no, no, we're not going to let that go.
00:39:52.000 We're going to investigate him.
00:39:53.000 Right?
00:39:54.000 They charge him.
00:39:55.000 They indict him.
00:39:56.000 And he's awaiting trial.
00:39:59.000 And I've said it.
00:40:01.000 Dan Bongino said it.
00:40:02.000 We've reviewed all the information and the American public is going to get as much as we can release.
00:40:06.000 He killed himself.
00:40:08.000 Do you think – let's play out the logical conclusion of this.
00:40:11.000 Do you think that myself, Bongino and others would participate in hiding information about Epstein's grotesque activities?
00:40:21.000 Or do you think we would also participate in not – Prosecuting people we had evidence to prosecute people on.
00:40:29.000 But the problem is there's been like 15 years of people coming in and creating fictions about this that doesn't exist.
00:40:38.000 Where's the videotape of a Nipsteen Island of X, Y, and Z committing these frauds? 1.00
00:40:43.000 Why haven't you given it to us?
00:40:44.000 Do you really think I wouldn't give that to you if it existed?
00:40:48.000 I'm working my ass off along with the leadership at the Bureau and DOJ to get you what we're allowed to give you.
00:40:53.000 And you're going to get the video.
00:40:55.000 Of the cell.
00:40:56.000 And you're going to see for yourself.
00:40:58.000 And we will never be able to convince everyone.
00:41:01.000 Okay.
00:41:02.000 Let's get into that.
00:41:03.000 So what did you think before you got into office?
00:41:06.000 Did you think that Epstein was murdered?
00:41:08.000 No.
00:41:09.000 No suspicion at all of it?
00:41:10.000 But I have a different background, right?
00:41:12.000 Right.
00:41:12.000 So I was a public defender back in the day.
00:41:15.000 I used to spend a lot of time in jails and a lot of time in segregated housing units, shoes as we call them, right? 0.65
00:41:25.000 People that have committed suicide in these cells.
00:41:28.000 And I know how you get in, how you get out, who works the system.
00:41:32.000 And so the way, based on public information at the time, that he ended up putting the pictures and him hanging himself.
00:41:39.000 I was like, man, that guy killed himself.
00:41:42.000 There's just no way that you could have run an op and had people go into that cell and not have any video of it and not have any people come out and say, Hey, yeah, I saw that guy.
00:41:54.000 He shouldn't have been there, the guard or this guy.
00:41:56.000 There's just no access points into places like this in the detention center he was in, which I've been in.
00:42:01.000 So correct me if I'm wrong, but what I was told, what I'd read, was that the guards were not paying attention or were sleeping.
00:42:10.000 Yeah, and in short order, you'll see it.
00:42:13.000 Is that correct?
00:42:14.000 Well, it's hard to surmise that from a video, right?
00:42:16.000 Right.
00:42:20.000 Yeah.
00:42:21.000 But no one can get in to the cell.
00:42:24.000 And if they had gotten in to the cell, you would see it.
00:42:27.000 But we were told that the cameras were down.
00:42:29.000 Well, I don't know who said that.
00:42:31.000 But that was in the news.
00:42:33.000 We're giving you all the footage we have.
00:42:36.000 So why wasn't that released immediately?
00:42:39.000 Why did this speculation escalate?
00:42:43.000 I think you'd have to ask.
00:42:46.000 whoever the attorney general back then was, Bill Barr.
00:42:48.000 Did you ever see...
00:42:53.000 Dr. Michael Badden?
00:42:54.000 He's a famous forensic scientist.
00:42:56.000 I don't think I've seen that.
00:42:58.000 He's a pathologist and he reviewed the case and it was his determination that it was a homicide because of the way his neck was broken.
00:43:08.000 What he said was it was indicative of a ligature strangulation.
00:43:12.000 And it was because of the positioning on the neck where the marks were, that it wasn't indicative of someone hanging by their weight, which had been higher on the chin.
00:43:20.000 And there's a specific break of the bones and the vertebrae that's consistent with someone who is just strangled to death.
00:43:27.000 I haven't seen it.
00:43:28.000 I'll definitely take a look at it because that's part of my job.
00:43:32.000 You haven't seen that?
00:43:33.000 The report on that?
00:43:34.000 No, I haven't looked at that.
00:43:35.000 Did you see any, Not to my knowledge, but if there was, you'll get it.
00:43:45.000 And that's what we're doing.
00:43:46.000 See if you can find that Dr. Michael Badden thing.
00:43:49.000 Do you remember that show?
00:43:50.000 The HBO show?
00:43:51.000 Pretty cool show.
00:43:51.000 No.
00:43:52.000 So this guy, Dr. Michael Badden, he had a long career of catching murderers, you know, exhuming bodies, finding trace amounts of poisons, different kinds of things.
00:44:01.000 It was a crazy show.
00:44:02.000 Like all these wild ways.
00:44:04.000 Well, I love watching shows and I spend a lot of time on planes.
00:44:06.000 Yeah, it was an old show.
00:44:07.000 It was a show like from the early 2000s, I believe.
00:44:11.000 But this guy was a very well-respected forensic scientist who would analyze these bodies, and it was his determination that he was murdered.
00:44:21.000 Yeah.
00:44:22.000 And my job, going back to the core of what I've been doing since I studied Russiagate, was to get and is to get everybody the information.
00:44:31.000 When did you get – here, Epstein's autopsy points to homicide.
00:44:36.000 Pathologist hired by Brother Claims.
00:44:38.000 New York City medical examiner strongly disputed the claim that the evidence from the autopsy suggests is triangulation.
00:44:44.000 By the way, this is the New York Times and they never lie.
00:44:46.000 Private pathologist...
00:45:04.000 I think the evidence points to homicide rather than suicide, to Dr. Badden, who observed the autopsy done by city officials.
00:45:10.000 Dr. Badden, a former New York City medical examinationer and a Fox News contributor, said, I have not seen in 50 years where that occurred in suicidal hanging case.
00:45:20.000 Findings by Dr. Batten were strongly disputed by the city's chief medical examiner, Dr. Barbara Sampson.
00:45:29.000 Dr. Sampson also dismissed Dr. Batten's contention that the circumstances around Mr. Epstein's death suggested other people may have been involved.
00:45:55.000 Their office had done a complete investigation, taken into consideration information gathered by law enforcement in making the determination.
00:46:04.000 So this is a perfect example of going back to my public defender and prosecutor days.
00:46:09.000 This is what we call a war of experts.
00:46:11.000 You can always find someone.
00:46:14.000 To come in and say the opposite.
00:46:16.000 Right.
00:46:16.000 And I used to do it all the time.
00:46:18.000 I mean, I represented some of the worst humans that you can possibly imagine on Earth.
00:46:22.000 Literally.
00:46:23.000 the guys that were trafficking children from Mexico into America.
00:46:26.000 And you could put up a professional expert to say – And my job is not the forever.
00:46:35.000 My job is to get you absolutely everything that we can give you.
00:46:38.000 And that's what we're going to do.
00:46:40.000 When did you become aware of this video that showed that no one had gone in and out of the cell?
00:46:46.000 Recently.
00:46:47.000 So why was it recent, though?
00:46:48.000 I mean, if this death was...
00:46:51.000 Two years?
00:46:52.000 A couple.
00:46:53.000 2019?
00:46:54.000 2019.
00:46:55.000 Oh, really?
00:46:56.000 My time flies.
00:46:57.000 So, six years.
00:46:59.000 Well, again, that's part of what I'm going to try to answer for you.
00:47:02.000 Jeffrey Epstein, JLCC TV erased by technical errors.
00:47:07.000 Whoopsies.
00:47:09.000 Yeah.
00:47:10.000 But you see how anybody on the outside, I mean, this is like a perfect storm.
00:47:14.000 Yeah.
00:47:14.000 Can you pull that article up so we can read what it says, Jamie?
00:47:17.000 U.S. prosecutors said the jail mistakenly saved footage from the wrong cell.
00:47:21.000 Sorry, Epstein, a convicted sex offender, first tried to kill himself in July last year and hanged himself in jail.
00:47:29.000 Hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:47:30.000 Reread that line.
00:47:32.000 That he first tried to kill himself in July of last year.
00:47:35.000 How much of the American public do you think knows that?
00:47:37.000 I didn't know that until right now.
00:47:38.000 There you go.
00:47:39.000 Maybe I heard it and forgot.
00:47:40.000 Did you ever hear it, Jamie?
00:47:41.000 That's why he was on Suicide Watch, I think.
00:47:43.000 Oh, okay.
00:47:44.000 So a guy...
00:47:45.000 ...hanged himself in jail in August while serving trial on federal sex trafficking charge.
00:47:50.000 He pleaded not guilty to abusing dozens of girls, some as young as 14. Soon after Epstein's death in August, two of the CCTV cameras outside his cell had malfunctioned and were being examined by the FBI.
00:48:02.000 Found semi-conscious in his prison cell with injuries on his neck on 25 July after this incident, he was placed on suicide watch.
00:48:13.000 I'm saying we've got footage and you're getting it.
00:48:15.000 And then you can make up your own mind.
00:48:19.000 And the theories can continue.
00:48:21.000 But my job is to give you the information.
00:48:22.000 So you became aware of this footage recently?
00:48:25.000 The ones that we're looking at, yeah.
00:48:26.000 Right.
00:48:27.000 But this is like an article from quite a while ago that was saying that the footage was mistakenly erased.
00:48:33.000 Look, I mean, it goes back to the same...
00:48:35.000 ask the people that were in power then.
00:48:37.000 I mean, I get it that...
00:48:41.000 No, I'm not saying that.
00:48:42.000 Not you.
00:48:42.000 I'm not saying that.
00:48:43.000 Not you.
00:48:44.000 Just the public in general, and that's okay.
00:48:46.000 What's confusing to everybody today, first of all, it's very confusing because AI can kind of make anything.
00:48:51.000 You know, which has got to be a bizarre position for you to be in.
00:48:54.000 When you're looking at videos, I mean, I've watched Viking videos.
00:48:57.000 It looked real as fuck, you know?
00:48:59.000 They just make Viking towns. 0.97
00:49:01.000 I mean, it's really quite incredible what they're doing now.
00:49:05.000 It accelerates every month.
00:49:07.000 I mean, I talked to Elon about it and he said we're blown away literally every week.
00:49:10.000 Every week there's some new breakthrough.
00:49:11.000 We're like, wow.
00:49:12.000 We didn't expect that.
00:49:14.000 Well, I can tell you after having looked at it.
00:49:16.000 This ain't going to be AI.
00:49:18.000 You don't think so?
00:49:20.000 It's just not great.
00:49:22.000 It's like if it were AI, like someone wanted to come in and make it, they'd make it better.
00:49:25.000 But why would you make it better when people could have ambiguous footage?
00:49:31.000 That is, you know, totally generated by AI.
00:49:33.000 I mean, AI can generate blurry images.
00:49:36.000 AI can generate night vision.
00:49:38.000 AI can generate essentially anything that's already existed, like really shitty 1984 VHS tapes.
00:49:45.000 They can do that.
00:49:46.000 They can.
00:49:47.000 But I'm telling you, I'm giving you the tape from the tape.
00:49:51.000 You know, there's just like I'm giving you the documents from the vault, just like I'm giving you information to Congress on COVID origins or what have you.
00:49:59.000 What we find is what you're getting.
00:50:01.000 Okay, so now let's say in 2019, missing jail video from the first Jeffrey Epstein suicide for the first attempt has been found.
00:50:08.000 So maybe, let's put it into perspective, jails are not the most efficient, best run places.
00:50:16.000 It's not like...
00:50:20.000 Yeah.
00:50:21.000 No, it's not.
00:50:22.000 It's, yeah.
00:50:23.000 You know, we're working with what we got.
00:50:25.000 So, and listen, this guy's not the only guy to kill himself in prison.
00:50:25.000 Right.
00:50:29.000 It happens, I don't know how often.
00:50:31.000 All the time.
00:50:31.000 Right.
00:50:32.000 Even if he killed himself in prison.
00:50:34.000 So, if he was murdered in prison, crazy, right?
00:50:38.000 Yeah.
00:50:38.000 You could see why very powerful people wouldn't want him talking.
00:50:41.000 If he was murdered in segregated housing, in isolation, after being on suicide watch in a place in a detention center that I've physically been in myself, it would be fiction.
00:50:53.000 It's just, in my experience, that is not doable.
00:50:57.000 It's not doable even for the most powerful and wealthiest people in the world?
00:51:01.000 Yeah.
00:51:02.000 Wouldn't you think though that like if, Sure.
00:51:18.000 You would have the resources that we couldn't even possibly comprehend all pointing towards eliminating this one person that it could be done.
00:51:27.000 But, I mean, so many people have been implicated, right, already.
00:51:30.000 And some of that information, what they did to Prince Andrew and everybody else is already out there.
00:51:35.000 And so that's the conspiracy stuff that me and Bongino and the folks have to say, look, we will give you everything we can and then we will have done our job.
00:51:49.000 Also, if I had a shred, me, Kash Patel, had a shred of evidence.
00:51:54.000 The Russiagate guy, the Jan 6 guy, the COVID origins guy, had a shred of evidence that this guy was murdered.
00:51:59.000 I would be the first guy to bring this case hard and fast.
00:52:03.000 And I would do even doing press conferences every week on it.
00:52:05.000 The first guy.
00:52:07.000 That's what I'm asking people to play out to their logical conclusion.
00:52:09.000 I'm not Comey.
00:52:10.000 I'm not McCabe.
00:52:11.000 I'm not the guy that was in the seat before.
00:52:13.000 I have a wildly different background.
00:52:15.000 I've been putting out the truth my entire career.
00:52:19.000 Why would I risk all of it on this guy?
00:52:23.000 I believe you.
00:52:24.000 I just think that the problem is we've been fuming on this conspiracy for so long.
00:52:33.000 And we love conspiracies, don't we?
00:52:35.000 As a country, they're so much fun.
00:52:37.000 JFK tapes, come on.
00:52:39.000 Release the documents.
00:52:41.000 We all love them.
00:52:42.000 We love them.
00:52:42.000 We love UFO ones.
00:52:44.000 We love everything.
00:52:44.000 We love the craziest conspiracies.
00:52:46.000 They're exciting.
00:52:47.000 We don't want to hear that he tried to kill himself in July and then succeeded in August.
00:52:53.000 And look, I could imagine why the guy wanted to kill himself.
00:52:56.000 He was going to jail for the rest of his fucking life.
00:52:57.000 And in jail, sex offenders for children are not treated well.
00:53:02.000 And also, by the way, most Americans haven't, nor should they.
00:53:05.000 Have you ever spent one minute in segregated housing?
00:53:08.000 No.
00:53:09.000 It's the worst.
00:53:10.000 The absolute worst.
00:53:12.000 Like, you and your background, you could probably handle it, right?
00:53:16.000 Like, you know, just in all reality.
00:53:18.000 Most Americans, you put them in there for five seconds, they're going to slam their head against the wall.
00:53:23.000 Literally.
00:53:23.000 They're going to lose their mind.
00:53:24.000 Immediately.
00:53:25.000 It's that bad.
00:53:26.000 I'm sure.
00:53:27.000 I could only imagine.
00:53:29.000 And I could only imagine this guy knowing that it's over.
00:53:32.000 And what do you want to do?
00:53:33.000 Do you want to Let's just put that aside.
00:53:38.000 Now, if you're working for...
00:53:44.000 we don't have to speculate.
00:53:45.000 If he's working for some...
00:53:57.000 They decide to target his family if he testifies against them.
00:54:00.000 I could see where I, if I thought that it was, like, I'm going to be in jail for the rest of my life, or I tell and my family winds up being killed or destroyed or who knows.
00:54:13.000 Maybe you'd say, look, the honorable thing is to end it in prison.
00:54:17.000 Honorable, cowardly thing.
00:54:19.000 Cowardly, whatever it is.
00:54:20.000 You just decide.
00:54:21.000 Also, at some point, that guy was going back in a gen pop.
00:54:24.000 And the one thing I'll tell you about prison systems is the people they eat are child predators.
00:54:28.000 Yes.
00:54:29.000 And he was going to get eaten.
00:54:31.000 Well known, yeah.
00:54:32.000 And they probably wouldn't have protected him.
00:54:34.000 Yeah.
00:54:36.000 So, the narrative has always been that there's video.
00:54:41.000 Now, what is the chain of custody?
00:54:44.000 Is there evidence that there is video?
00:54:46.000 Is there evidence that it was moved around, stored, protected from people looking at it?
00:54:53.000 You're going to get all that information.
00:54:55.000 That's literally what we're putting together.
00:54:57.000 And we're going to give you every single thing we have and can.
00:55:01.000 And that's the whole point.
00:55:03.000 We can't fill gaps by making stuff up, and we're not going to do that.
00:55:07.000 And you have to be methodical.
00:55:09.000 to be but that's the other thing right we're reviewing We're reviewing everything as meticulously as we can because that's what we owe the American people.
00:55:21.000 That's our job.
00:55:23.000 And I don't want to rush to the sticks or the podium and just say, hey, look what we found.
00:55:27.000 And then be like, oh, sorry.
00:55:29.000 I forgot the four seconds.
00:55:30.000 If we miss four seconds, they're going to be like, oh, well, it's in the four seconds you missed.
00:55:35.000 How much can you talk about what you've seen?
00:55:39.000 Not yet.
00:55:41.000 Just what I've told you.
00:55:42.000 Can you say you've seen anything?
00:55:44.000 No, that's the point.
00:55:45.000 That there's nothing in there.
00:55:48.000 Like in the video.
00:55:49.000 You guys would be bored.
00:55:51.000 You're talking about the video of the murder or the suicide.
00:55:54.000 But what about the video from the island?
00:55:57.000 Oh, that's it.
00:55:58.000 So you're talking about two different things?
00:55:58.000 Sorry.
00:55:59.000 Sorry.
00:55:59.000 Yes.
00:56:00.000 So, yeah.
00:56:00.000 So, again, we're going to give you everything we can.
00:56:05.000 And people have to remember, we're not going to re-victimize women.
00:56:09.000 We're not going to put that shit back out there.
00:56:11.000 It's not happening because then he wins.
00:56:13.000 Not doing it.
00:56:14.000 You want to hate me for it?
00:56:15.000 Fine.
00:56:16.000 Again, logical play out.
00:56:19.000 If there was a video of some guy or gal committing felonies on an island and I'm in charge, don't you think you'd see it?
00:56:30.000 If you have access to it.
00:56:32.000 If I have it.
00:56:32.000 Period.
00:56:33.000 If I have it.
00:56:34.000 If I haven't.
00:56:39.000 Right.
00:56:40.000 If you have it.
00:56:41.000 Right.
00:56:41.000 But you can't say that you have it.
00:56:43.000 No, we're giving you everything we have.
00:56:46.000 So far?
00:56:46.000 Everything we have so far is the use of it.
00:56:52.000 Yeah, that's what I'm telling you.
00:56:53.000 That's what takes so much damn time.
00:56:54.000 Right.
00:56:59.000 Not of what you want.
00:57:01.000 The people out there have filled...
00:57:08.000 Speculation.
00:57:09.000 And I'm like, here's the other thing I've been asking for, right?
00:57:11.000 Openly.
00:57:12.000 If you have information on this, call us.
00:57:15.000 Tell us.
00:57:17.000 The best resource we have is the American people in the world.
00:57:20.000 Get me the tail numbers.
00:57:20.000 Right.
00:57:22.000 You know, get me new information and I will run that down.
00:57:22.000 Get me the flight.
00:57:26.000 So this narrative might not be accurate that there's video of these guys doing this.
00:57:31.000 Exactly.
00:57:32.000 Is it possible that the video was taken and destroyed?
00:57:37.000 Well, you're talking about what decades worth of stuff, right?
00:57:40.000 Remember, we have what we have pursuant to lawful search warrants and authorities from the case that was done however many years ago was done.
00:57:50.000 That's what we have.
00:57:51.000 If other people have other stuff and they want to give it to us, bring it.
00:57:55.000 Have you guys reviewed everything that you have?
00:57:58.000 Almost.
00:57:59.000 I mean, yes, we have, and now we're figuring out how to put it out.
00:58:06.000 Now, I understand that you would never re-victimize these women and show this footage, but is there footage?
00:58:14.000 Outside of...
00:58:27.000 Is it possible that there was footage that you just will never have access to because they've already gotten rid of it?
00:58:33.000 I mean, anything's possible, right?
00:58:34.000 Well, there was a long time, right?
00:58:35.000 Between the time when it was clear that Kamala lost the election and that Trump won before he got into office.
00:58:43.000 I got here 100 days ago, literally.
00:58:45.000 It's just kind of crazy.
00:58:45.000 Right, exactly.
00:58:47.000 So I'm doing what I can.
00:58:48.000 And that's this type of stuff like – and I'm happy to talk about it and bring it up.
00:59:10.000 Well, that's my biggest job.
00:59:12.000 And that's what I'm focused on.
00:59:13.000 And I think we can do all those things and we're doing them really well.
00:59:16.000 And I think if you give us just like another 100 days, it's not a lot of time.
00:59:21.000 Literally, I just hit my 100-day mark like two days.
00:59:25.000 You're going to see a ton of stuff.
00:59:26.000 You're already seeing it.
00:59:27.000 We just rolled out the Catholic memo, the truth about that.
00:59:31.000 What is that?
00:59:33.000 The last administration, the FBI wrote a memo targeting Catholics.
00:59:38.000 Remember the Richmond Catholic memo?
00:59:40.000 I don't remember that.
00:59:41.000 OK.
00:59:42.000 So basically there was a write-up from the FBI relying on the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is like the modern-day Fusion GPS.
00:59:54.000 And basically said Catholics should be targeted as domestic terrorists.
00:59:59.000 Yeah.
00:59:59.000 So then Chris Wray, the former FBI director, went to Capitol Hill and testified about it.
01:00:04.000 And the Congress was like, wait a second.
01:00:08.000 Is this real?
01:00:09.000 Is it predicated on actual facts?
01:00:11.000 And how wide is it?
01:00:13.000 Is it one office?
01:00:14.000 Is it all these people across the country?
01:00:16.000 Are Catholics being targeted as domestic terrorists?
01:00:20.000 What ended up happening was Ray said, oh, it's just one office, one memo, nothing to see here.
01:00:25.000 Well, what we just roll out again to Congress this week to Chuck Grassley, who put it out, was that, in fact, it was multiple offices, multiple memos that were weaponizing law enforcement to target a religious group during an election cycle.
01:00:41.000 And we proved it.
01:00:43.000 And now everybody has read it.
01:00:45.000 Why were they targeting the Catholics?
01:00:47.000 I don't know.
01:00:48.000 You'd have to ask the people that got here before I did.
01:00:50.000 Did you have any suspicion of what kind of motivation they would have to do that?
01:00:55.000 I think when you use – it goes back to Russiagate.
01:00:58.000 If you're willing to use Mickey Mouse journalism, if you're willing to use the Fusion GPS and Christopher Steeles of the world like the leadership at the FBI then did, then it has a chance to replicate itself and that's what happened.
01:01:10.000 I don't know if you know anything about the Southern Poverty Law Center but it's – they literally are the ones that sent information to the FBI and the FBI said, oh, we'll write a memo.
01:01:20.000 That's the type of work that I think gives credibility back to the Bureau, us exposing it, us giving Congress the truth, Congress coming back in and saying, hey, you actually didn't give us the Heisman.
01:01:30.000 You gave us the documents.
01:01:31.000 We gave them to the American people.
01:01:33.000 And if there are criminal referrals to come out of that, then let's do that.
01:01:36.000 I mean, we just had a great breakthrough this week on Fauci.
01:01:40.000 So Senator Rand Paul, Senator Kennedy, and I hate naming names because I always forget people, are doing a great job with us on COVID origins.
01:01:50.000 We've got multiple investigations open on that.
01:01:53.000 But they had always been looking for Fauci's original phone, or not original, but phones and devices he used while he was Fauci back in Trump on during COVID.
01:02:06.000 And nobody had found it.
01:02:09.000 Till two days ago.
01:02:11.000 Really?
01:02:12.000 Now look, your audience and everybody listening to it should jump to the conclusion.
01:02:12.000 Yeah.
01:02:17.000 Everything's in there.
01:02:18.000 We'll look at it.
01:02:20.000 We'll pull it.
01:02:21.000 We'll rip it as we say.
01:02:22.000 And maybe it's deleted.
01:02:23.000 Maybe it's not.
01:02:24.000 But at least we found it.
01:02:25.000 And at least now we can tell the American people we've been looking because it is of public importance to figure out did that guy lie?
01:02:32.000 Did he intentionally mislead the world and cause countless deaths?
01:02:35.000 We owe those answers to the American people and the best evidence.
01:02:39.000 Ever.
01:02:40.000 Is always the people's evidence who created it.
01:02:43.000 And so now we're going to go and exploit those hard drives.
01:02:45.000 But I think a victory for the American people that we broke with Congress is that we did find it.
01:02:50.000 We're not done.
01:02:51.000 We're still looking.
01:02:52.000 And we're on the case.
01:02:53.000 So whether it's Richmond Catholic memo, whether it's Fauci COVID origins, whatever becomes a great Russiagate crossfire hurricane, whatever becomes a great public importance, that's a big part of what we do at the FBI too.
01:03:06.000 The crossfire hurricane one is bananas.
01:03:08.000 Well, that's all Russia. 0.91
01:03:09.000 Yeah, it's completely nuts.
01:03:10.000 I mean, we can do three days on that.
01:03:13.000 I mean, that's like I spent...
01:03:16.000 I mean, there's so many things in the past that you get, like the Operation Fast and Furious.
01:03:24.000 Yeah, the guns.
01:03:26.000 Insane, which led to the death of American lives.
01:03:29.000 Yeah.
01:03:29.000 Of a federal agent.
01:03:30.000 Yeah.
01:03:32.000 And there's just things that I see that you would think I would have more uproar, even as much time I've been doing this, that don't.
01:03:38.000 And things that in my mind would be like, no one's going to pay attention.
01:03:41.000 And people are like, oh my god.
01:03:42.000 And so that's part of the learning curve for me too.
01:03:44.000 Trying to figure out what the balance is.
01:03:49.000 You know, should I be given this so much attention, so much resources?
01:03:52.000 But then when I have to call a parent because their kid's dead from fentanyl or when I have to call a cop's family and I call every single line of duty death that we have in this country, I call everyone's chief and I call their families.
01:04:05.000 And I'm glad that the numbers are going down in terms of how many have been killed this By over 15% so far.
01:04:18.000 I want to be at zero.
01:04:19.000 You know, that's where my focus needs to be.
01:04:21.000 15% in 100 days.
01:04:22.000 Still, you know, pretty good.
01:04:22.000 Yeah.
01:04:24.000 Give or take a couple of points.
01:04:26.000 And that's where my focus, that's where the FBI's focus needs to be.
01:04:30.000 These guys are on the line.
01:04:32.000 We're doing all these raids across the country and Homeland Security Task Force.
01:04:34.000 We just hit a 10,000 mark.
01:04:36.000 We just arrested over 10,000 people in the 100 and change days that we've been doing this with DHS.
01:04:43.000 Huge, right?
01:04:44.000 On illegals and whatnot.
01:04:47.000 We also just, like, this is great.
01:04:49.000 This piece of information has actually made me happy.
01:04:53.000 We are on track to have the lowest homicide rate ever.
01:05:00.000 Murder rate, excuse me, murder rate ever.
01:05:03.000 In the country?
01:05:04.000 Yeah.
01:05:05.000 Really?
01:05:06.000 We're already, and look, we got six more months to go, so we're not done yet for the year.
01:05:10.000 But we're already down 20% from last year and we broke it this week that right now the murder rate, if we, the FBI and our government partners achieve the mission, we'll give the American people the lowest murder rate in decades.
01:05:23.000 That's incredible.
01:05:24.000 And that's what I'm focused on.
01:05:26.000 So what steps have been made to do that?
01:05:29.000 Like how did that become real?
01:05:33.000 So I think, and I've worked with cops and law enforcement a lot in the past.
01:05:39.000 And you have too.
01:05:40.000 They're awesome.
01:05:42.000 All they wanted to do was do the work.
01:05:44.000 Once President Trump got elected, before I even got the nomination, right?
01:05:47.000 And excuse me, when I was traveling country with them before that, they were like, take the handcuffs off of us.
01:05:54.000 Let us go do our jobs.
01:05:56.000 And that's where I came up with, let good cops be cops.
01:05:59.000 I said, if I'm going to get this job, that's what I'm going to do.
01:06:02.000 I'm going to let you, the agents, the police officers, the sheriffs, go out there and do the work you so badly want to do.
01:06:09.000 And I'm going to give you the resources you need to do it.
01:06:11.000 And I'm going to take away the politicization and weaponization saying, oh, we can't target this group or this thing or this area.
01:06:18.000 And that's it.
01:06:20.000 That's what we've done.
01:06:22.000 I speak to cops across this country constantly.
01:06:25.000 And it's a humbling message that I receive back every time I talk to them.
01:06:30.000 They're like, And it's not me.
01:06:32.000 It's the president's administration and our entire government that's doing it.
01:06:35.000 They're like, thank you for letting us do the work.
01:06:38.000 We want to chase child predators.
01:06:39.000 We want to bust up MS-13. 0.73
01:06:41.000 I mean, look at the victories we've had for the American people.
01:06:44.000 In the first two months, the FBI arrested three, not one, not two, but three of the world's most top 10 wanted fugitives.
01:06:54.000 Three.
01:06:55.000 One of them happened to be the guy that was the Abbey Gate bomber.
01:06:59.000 What was the Abbey Gate bomber?
01:07:01.000 The terrorist that blew up 13 US soldiers in the Afghan withdrawal.
01:07:07.000 I did it with my interagency partners in a week.
01:07:11.000 In a week, we found that guy, went to Pakistan, brought him back here. 0.60
01:07:15.000 Now there's others responsible for it and we're chasing them down too.
01:07:19.000 But the question the American people should be asking is why didn't the prior administration putting aside the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, a plan that they – We handed off them a proper way to do it and methodical way to do it.
01:07:35.000 And they just said, F you, we're doing it this way.
01:07:37.000 And you saw the videos and you saw people plunging from our aircrafts.
01:07:41.000 And you saw Abbey Gate and 13 Americans dead.
01:07:45.000 Why didn't anyone go get justice for those families?
01:07:48.000 Well, that's the priority that the president said.
01:07:51.000 We're going to go find them.
01:07:52.000 And we let good cops be cops.
01:07:54.000 We let federal agents be agents.
01:07:55.000 We let our intel community focus intelligence collection on terrorists.
01:07:59.000 And we went and got that guy.
01:08:01.000 It's so hard to believe that it's really that simple, that it's just they weren't given the resources and they weren't given the support to let cops be cops and that they could have done this all along.
01:08:10.000 I don't know if that's the only answer.
01:08:11.000 I'm just telling you what I'm doing.
01:08:13.000 And I think we're seeing some results.
01:08:15.000 I appreciate that.
01:08:15.000 But as a person, again, who loves conspiracies, you know, you look at that and you're like, what would be the benefit of not?
01:08:22.000 Not letting cops be cops.
01:08:23.000 Why would you want more crime?
01:08:24.000 Why would you want more murders?
01:08:26.000 Why would you not want to arrest bad guys?
01:08:28.000 Well, you have to look at the landscape of the last, I don't know, 4, 8, 12 years, call it, right?
01:08:36.000 It was an intentional decision.
01:08:38.000 And this isn't politics.
01:08:40.000 It was just an intentional decision to say, we're going to let all these people into our country and let them stay. 1.00
01:08:45.000 The result of that is, you know, this is another part of the lift that we're doing at the Bureau.
01:08:51.000 We call them KSTs, known or suspected terrorists. 0.99
01:08:55.000 They get pinged at the border, the northern border and the southern border, and then the last administration said, you guys can come in.
01:09:05.000 And then one of the most terrifying things I heard was my predecessor, Christopher Wray, went to Congress a year or two ago and said, well, the last year's annual statistics for KSTs was a few dozen and we don't know where they are in America.
01:09:19.000 What do you mean you don't know where they are?
01:09:21.000 How is that not a national security crisis?
01:09:24.000 And so what we're doing while we're doing these raids and chasing down illegals is trying to target those with terrorist affiliations, those who are terrorists, those who are in our homeland because the last administration let them be here. 0.58
01:09:38.000 And that's – you can say I'm being political.
01:09:41.000 I don't really care.
01:09:42.000 But that's me being the FBI director and saying Americans come first and we're protecting our own.
01:09:49.000 And we're chasing them down and DHS is doing a great job and so is our intelligence community and so are the local police departments who are now working with us and not living in sanctuary cities and allowing police stations to be burnt to the ground, working with us and not having law enforcement attacked constantly for just doing the job of protecting the American people.
01:10:13.000 I think that's a tectonic shift in the mentality.
01:10:17.000 Of what this administration has brought in.
01:10:19.000 Now, people are still vilifying us for doing that.
01:10:23.000 How dare you separate families, they'll say.
01:10:26.000 And I'm like, how dare you separate a mom from a kid on a fentanyl overdose?
01:10:32.000 How dare you separate an American soldier's mom or dad from the guy that got blown up at Abbey Gate?
01:10:38.000 I have different priorities.
01:10:40.000 I have a different view of it.
01:10:41.000 And so that's the ethos I'm bringing to the Bureau.
01:10:44.000 I appreciate everything you guys are doing.
01:10:46.000 I'm baffled to try to come up with any kind of an explanation why anybody would let known or suspected terrorists into the country and just let them loose.
01:10:54.000 I mean, I know you can't speculate, but when you take office and you realize all this is going on, what is going through your mind?
01:11:05.000 How are you processing this?
01:11:07.000 Is this pure incompetence?
01:11:10.000 Is this malice?
01:11:12.000 Is this a foolhardy adherence to ideology and just completely ignore the danger that they're putting the American people in by doing this?
01:11:22.000 It's – I think it – no, it's intentional.
01:11:26.000 The intentional decision was when you're going to let in – what is it?
01:11:32.000 Nine million people?
01:11:34.000 A lot of them are going to be criminals.
01:11:36.000 A lot of them are going to be TDA.
01:11:38.000 You saw what they did in Colorado.
01:11:39.000 A lot of them are going to be MS-13.
01:11:40.000 A lot of them are going to be narco-traffickers, which when you allow narco-traffickers in the country, you're automatically bringing sex traits trafficking, human trafficking, and drug trafficking automatically.
01:11:50.000 And the drug traffickers have partnered with the terrorist organizations and our adversaries.
01:11:54.000 We haven't even talked about Russia and the CCP and how they've combined forces over the last however many years to infiltrate America, not just with people, but our cyber capabilities and our infrastructure.
01:12:04.000 And so when I come into a job like this, patience is one of the hardest things you have to manage because you can't fix everything overnight.
01:12:13.000 You have to build up the workforce.
01:12:15.000 You have to get them the resources.
01:12:17.000 You have to fix the infrastructure that's broken.
01:12:19.000 I mean I'll just give you a quick example.
01:12:21.000 The building that the FBI calls headquarters, the Hoover Building, is like 70 years old.
01:12:27.000 I literally have netting, mesh netting, holding up.
01:12:32.000 The side of the building because pieces of concrete fall off of it.
01:12:36.000 So it doesn't hit people in the head.
01:12:38.000 I'm not kidding.
01:12:39.000 I'm dead serious.
01:12:41.000 So I said, how about we give the workforce a safe place to work?
01:12:46.000 So we're moving out of there.
01:12:47.000 And people think it's a political decision.
01:12:50.000 Taking the FBI out of the historic Hoover building.
01:12:52.000 Yeah, because I don't want people to die.
01:12:54.000 And I think they deserve a better workplace than something that's 70 years old that has pipes exploding literally every single week, every week.
01:13:02.000 And also, we're going to save the taxpayer money.
01:13:04.000 We're going to get out of a building that would cost billions to fix.
01:13:07.000 And we're going to move into a location that's already built instead of a 15-year government boondoggle an hour outside of D.C. And we're going to stay in D.C. We're going to stay near our partners in government.
01:13:16.000 And we're going to put out – But all of that takes time.
01:13:31.000 I can't do it overnight.
01:13:34.000 Why do you say Indian country?
01:13:36.000 Tribal lands.
01:13:37.000 Well, what about tribal lands is problematic?
01:13:39.000 Oh, man.
01:13:41.000 Thank you so much for bringing this up.
01:13:43.000 It's one of my biggest priorities.
01:13:46.000 The tribal—and I just met with almost all of the chiefs and the leaders of the tribal communities in America.
01:13:54.000 The crimes they have committed on what we call Indian country is just as horrific, if not worse, than the rest of America. 0.99
01:14:02.000 Look up the story about Emily Pike, whose family is still waiting for her arms.
01:14:07.000 This child was murdered on a reservation, and they found a piece of her body and not the murderer and not the rest of her body.
01:14:14.000 They are plagued.
01:14:16.000 By drugs.
01:14:17.000 And they have never been a priority in terms of law enforcement working together.
01:14:24.000 And now remember, you're talking about two different sets of legal structures, right?
01:14:29.000 They have their own and we have our own.
01:14:30.000 But what I've asked of them and what they've asked of me is pay more attention, give us more resources.
01:14:34.000 What I've asked of them is said, hey, all the leaders said, let my guys on.
01:14:39.000 Let my guys come to you.
01:14:41.000 And let's work together on solving some of these horrific, horrific crimes.
01:14:45.000 The trafficking, the murders and the violent crime on Indian reservations is skyrocketing. 0.98
01:14:53.000 And I'm not going to treat people who live in the United States of America differently because they have a different way of life.
01:14:59.000 We're going to help them.
01:15:00.000 And we put out Operation Not Forgotten where we deployed this month and this summer.
01:15:08.000 I can't remember how many agents and intel analysts, specifically to remote tribal locations to solve crimes that have not been solved for years, specifically the most violent.
01:15:19.000 And we're going to double down on that.
01:15:20.000 And as Bongino likes to say, this summer, we are unleashing a massive operation across the country.
01:15:26.000 As Dan calls it, it's a bad day to be a bad guy this summer because the FBI is putting out all these extra agents and personnel into the field, and we're going to come find you.
01:15:36.000 If you think you can nest in our communities and find safe haven, you're going to prison.
01:15:42.000 That's great to hear.
01:15:43.000 So when you guys sit around, you think about the motivation to let all these people into the country. 1.00
01:15:53.000 I mean, again, you're kind of speculating, but why do you think they allowed it?
01:15:58.000 Why do you think they allowed the border to be wide open like that?
01:16:01.000 You know, in my job now, that's like one of those political decisions, and so I try to stay out of that.
01:16:06.000 But how is that political, to leave the border?
01:16:10.000 How is a national security issue political?
01:16:12.000 So that's just it.
01:16:13.000 From my perspective, it's a national security decision.
01:16:16.000 And they failed on the national security mission.
01:16:19.000 But I think where the decision from that administration to do that was a political one.
01:16:25.000 That's what I'm trying to sort of separate.
01:16:28.000 I've always viewed it singularly, protecting the border, preventing drugs from coming in, preventing terrorists from coming in, preventing people from— But what political decision could be made that makes any sense at all to not do that?
01:16:40.000 I don't think there is one.
01:16:41.000 But unfortunately— They did it anyway.
01:16:44.000 Do you think it was just that Biden was just not there and everyone else that was really running things was completely incompetent, was focused on other things, was focused on maybe the optics of border protection, that somehow or another there was some negative connotation to it politically?
01:17:05.000 I always say this.
01:17:08.000 I think it's dismissive to say those people were incompetent.
01:17:11.000 They're super smart.
01:17:12.000 They're not dumb.
01:17:13.000 And whether or not Biden was running things or whatever, conversation for other people to have.
01:17:18.000 But there's lots of people around them who are very smart, who were in government for a long time.
01:17:23.000 And they – this is what I mean.
01:17:24.000 They politicized the national security and law enforcement apparatus of this country by making those decisions.
01:17:31.000 The why, you'd have to ask them.
01:17:33.000 Ask them why they did that and why they thought that was OK.
01:17:36.000 And why people think it's okay for James Comey to go down a beach and put up 86-47.
01:17:43.000 That's another political act that hurts our national security from smart people who are doing it intentionally.
01:17:53.000 And maybe because it's they want press.
01:17:55.000 Maybe because it's they're selling a book.
01:17:56.000 Maybe because it's they want notoriety.
01:17:58.000 I don't know the answer to that.
01:17:59.000 But for me, it's all national security related.
01:18:02.000 And these people keep doing it over and over again.
01:18:05.000 The good thing is now there's a bulwark against it because we're in.
01:18:09.000 And the president just is not having any of it.
01:18:11.000 What was the case very recently where you guys caught a scientist bringing in pathogens?
01:18:18.000 So I'm a New Yorker and I brought this for a reason.
01:18:22.000 This means spore.
01:18:23.000 Fucking New York Post is the best.
01:18:25.000 They have the best headlines ever.
01:18:29.000 It's so funny.
01:18:30.000 The case is still going.
01:18:32.000 It's obviously ongoing since we just made the arrest, so I'm a little limited in what I can say, but backing up the truck a little bit.
01:18:39.000 Agroterrorism is a thing, right? 0.99
01:18:41.000 The CCP isn't just coming at us with fentanyl and coming at us in our cyber infrastructure and our capabilities in space and underwater.
01:18:49.000 They are literally exporting people to the United States of America, having them end up being senior researchers like this individual at the University of Michigan.
01:19:02.000 And the bureau picked up on this and said, wait a second, why are you bringing you and her husband is also indicted, but he's in mainland China, so he's not here.
01:19:14.000 But we retraced what he did.
01:19:16.000 And what's public now is that he also tried to come to this country to do the same thing.
01:19:21.000 So they are making the connections on that.
01:19:23.000 But what they did was literally bring in a mushroom that.
01:19:31.000 Technically alone exists in the US, but in an altered state, causes billions of dollars of damage to wheat, to corn, to maize, and to agricultural industry, and also could wipe out your livestock and causes reproductive damage to human beings.
01:19:49.000 And so this is the lethality in terms of the mindset of people that want to do harm to our country.
01:19:55.000 In this case, I didn't know, this is one of those things where I knew it would garner a lot of attention.
01:20:00.000 But like this thing went massive.
01:20:03.000 It's everywhere.
01:20:04.000 And I'm glad it's everywhere because for me it highlights the multiple levels of operation that our adversaries are looking to do harm on us.
01:20:14.000 Thank God we caught this one.
01:20:15.000 But what about the ones we've got to still catch that are still out there?
01:20:19.000 They're not going to stop because this lady is in jail now and being prosecuted by us. 1.00
01:20:23.000 This is just the one you caught.
01:20:24.000 This is the one we caught.
01:20:25.000 So this is proof that this is actually an ongoing thing.
01:20:28.000 It's been an ongoing thing.
01:20:30.000 Just like, you know, why are we allowing our adversaries to buy land around our military?
01:20:34.000 I'm just going to ask you that.
01:20:35.000 You know, it's insane to me.
01:20:38.000 It's lunacy having been the former chief of staff at DOD and having gone to a lot of our bases.
01:20:43.000 I was just like – Why are the Russians right across the street? 0.99
01:20:51.000 Why do they provide towers for cell phones?
01:20:55.000 And that's a trickier issue because that's not like a federal saw.
01:20:59.000 That's a state-by-state issue.
01:21:01.000 And a lot of states have taken action.
01:21:03.000 I think the Dakotas are leading the charge up there by outlawing it and banning it and saying, nope, you can't do this.
01:21:09.000 You can't buy this.
01:21:09.000 Because a lot of these things have third-party input, right?
01:21:12.000 Right.
01:21:14.000 Unfortunately, are just about money.
01:21:17.000 Right.
01:21:17.000 They'll sell it to you cheaper, but then they're spying on everybody.
01:21:20.000 Then they're spying on everybody.
01:21:20.000 But here's the thing.
01:21:21.000 What I ask people, because what I get hit with is, why shouldn't foreigners be able to buy land in America?
01:21:29.000 I'm like, are you able to buy land in downtown Moscow?
01:21:32.000 Can you guys buy a farm in China?
01:21:34.000 No.
01:21:35.000 So what's with the disparate treatment?
01:21:35.000 No.
01:21:38.000 I get that we're the United States of America, and we want to give everybody a chance, and you gave this kid a chance.
01:21:44.000 But that's different than literally inviting our adversaries into our country and saying, well, as long as you build X or dump enough money into your state, we can look the other way.
01:21:56.000 So what can be done about the land that our adversaries own outside of military bases?
01:22:03.000 Again, it's a state.
01:22:14.000 What we can do at the federal level are things that you've seen the State Department under Marco Rubio do, revoking visas in certain places, in certain sectors of the economy.
01:22:27.000 And I think rightfully so.
01:22:29.000 Because if you stop the personnel from coming in or kick them out, then – It's basically a dead site.
01:22:37.000 That's the vulnerability that we have for being such a free society.
01:22:40.000 It is.
01:22:41.000 We allow foreign nationals to come in and go to universities and do research and become the head of these different departments.
01:22:50.000 And they're constantly reporting back to the CCP or coordinating with them.
01:22:55.000 Yeah.
01:22:56.000 Or Russia.
01:22:57.000 Yeah.
01:22:57.000 And they're not going to stop.
01:22:59.000 That's the thing with these guys.
01:23:01.000 It's just because you take one out.
01:23:03.000 Unless you take a whole of government approach, unless you get buy-in from the American public.
01:23:07.000 And again, this is one of those things that you would think is a national security issue, right?
01:23:11.000 But they'll politicize it. 0.99
01:23:11.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:23:13.000 They'll weaponize it. 0.54
01:23:14.000 The Post will write about it one way and it probably won't even make the headlines in a number of other outlets because they don't want to talk about that.
01:23:21.000 Has the New York Times written about this, John?
01:23:23.000 I have no idea.
01:23:25.000 I mean it seems like something that everybody should want to know about.
01:23:28.000 Yeah.
01:23:30.000 Foreign government and adversary government is trying to poison our food supply and human beings and affect the reproductive system. 1.00
01:23:37.000 It seems like that's a bipartisan issue.
01:23:40.000 Yeah.
01:23:41.000 And that's the thing about your show that I agreed that I wanted to do it is because… Getting out to a population that has stopped listening to mainstream news and reaching out to them and challenging them with information and how we're doing things and saying, look, this is our priorities, this is what I'm doing, is so hugely important because the audience, the influence of that manpower on the electorate is huge, is huge.
01:24:10.000 And if we can reach through on some of these issues, then we're going to win collectively.
01:24:15.000 Like, I can only arrest so many bad guys.
01:24:17.000 And we will.
01:24:18.000 But if we arrest them and people don't know who we're arresting and why we're arresting them and what the threat is, then it almost becomes irrelevant.
01:24:25.000 We're still going to do it.
01:24:26.000 We're not going to stop.
01:24:27.000 But if we can get more and more people talking about these things and saying, look, the national security of our country is of what's most important to me, not who wins the next election, but also we need to work with our communities to say, who's in our communities?
01:24:44.000 How many registered sex offenders are there?
01:24:47.000 Near our schools?
01:24:48.000 Are they violating federal laws?
01:24:50.000 Why aren't we on these priorities?
01:24:54.000 We need American buy-in to really accomplish the mission.
01:24:54.000 And we need help.
01:24:59.000 I wonder what heavy lifting has to be done to separate national security issues from political issues.
01:25:05.000 And for everybody just to say, listen.
01:25:08.000 All the other stuff that the Democrats disagree with or the Republicans disagree with, put that aside.
01:25:13.000 We should all be concerned with stopping fentanyl, stopping gang members and cartel members and terrorists from coming into the country.
01:25:21.000 How that becomes political to me is just fucking bananas.
01:25:24.000 It really is crazy because it's just like if one side supports it, the other side has to be against it.
01:25:30.000 Trevor Burrus: You raise the reason it's so politicized and the reason it's so sort of in many sectors of government is because of the answer to that question.
01:25:46.000 The leaks from inside of government and then the spin on that information by the media is what's causing the most harm, in my opinion, to the American public.
01:25:58.000 What kind of leaks?
01:26:00.000 Whether it's classified information or just leaks about fake news.
01:26:06.000 Like people saying, oh, so-and-so hate each other at the White House.
01:26:10.000 Did you hear about this meeting they had that never occurred?
01:26:12.000 I was like, I was in that meeting.
01:26:13.000 What are you talking about?
01:26:14.000 What have you heard like that?
01:26:15.000 What kind of like fake rumors?
01:26:17.000 Oh, so I'll give you an example from actually the FBI, then the New York Times.
01:26:25.000 Which never lies.
01:26:26.000 No, no, of course not.
01:26:27.000 We're relying on them to solve everything.
01:26:29.000 So we have these – we have a regular – And I was like – and I did them for a week and I was like, why do we do these every morning?
01:26:50.000 And the whole place looked at me.
01:26:51.000 These are career agents in Intel folks, like 10, 20, 30 years in this seat.
01:26:56.000 They go, boss, we hate those.
01:26:59.000 They make us come offline of our work.
01:27:04.000 Focus on briefing you rather than staying on mission and we can come brief you on our own.
01:27:10.000 So I chopped it to two days a week.
01:27:12.000 And I cut the time in like less than half.
01:27:15.000 New York Times puts out the story.
01:27:18.000 Tash Patel upends, and I'm paraphrasing, the ethos at the FBI.
01:27:23.000 How dare he cut down the morning briefing cycle and Why don't we do that?
01:27:35.000 But the Times comes in and kicks us in the face with this leak that's not even true because they go out and say anonymous source this and retired person that.
01:27:44.000 It's just one example.
01:27:45.000 It might sound small to you but now a reader is going to read that, a new kid who's like, oh, maybe I want to join the FBI and they're going to look at it and say, this place is a circus.
01:27:54.000 I don't want to go work there.
01:27:55.000 What do you mean they disrupted the morning meeting?
01:27:57.000 That guy should be getting briefed six hours a day.
01:27:59.000 Right.
01:28:00.000 And I'm like, no, I want my agents on mission.
01:28:03.000 I don't need them briefing me.
01:28:05.000 I can call them.
01:28:06.000 I can talk to them later.
01:28:07.000 And so it's just stuff like that.
01:28:09.000 Since we were talking about fake news, this is going to come up because it's been going on since we've been recording here.
01:28:14.000 Uh-oh.
01:28:15.000 Elon and Trump seem to be in a bit of a spat, Joe.
01:28:18.000 You want to check the tweet that Elon just put out?
01:28:20.000 A little bit ago.
01:28:21.000 Time to drop the really big bomb.
01:28:23.000 Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.
01:28:25.000 That's the real reason they have not been made public.
01:28:28.000 Have a nice day.
01:28:29.000 Jesus Christ.
01:28:30.000 I'm not participating in any of that conversation between Elon and Trump.
01:28:34.000 What is he?
01:28:34.000 Have a nice day?
01:28:35.000 DGD.
01:28:36.000 Someone should dig his phone away.
01:28:37.000 They're going back and forth about different things.
01:28:39.000 Yeah.
01:28:40.000 Well, he said he was disappointed in Elon.
01:28:42.000 Yeah, he said he told him to leave.
01:28:43.000 Jesus Christ, that's a crazy thing to say.
01:28:45.000 How does he know?
01:28:46.000 Does he know that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files?
01:28:49.000 Does he have access to the Epstein files?
01:28:51.000 I don't know how he would, but I'm just staying out of the Trump-Elon thing.
01:28:54.000 That's way outside my lane.
01:28:56.000 What the fuck are they doing?
01:28:57.000 I know my lane and that ain't it.
01:29:03.000 I think it's bad for your mental health.
01:29:05.000 I think posting things public all day and arguing with people all day is bad for you.
01:29:09.000 Well, you raise a great point.
01:29:11.000 Sorry to cut you off.
01:29:12.000 the half of what we have to respond to Right.
01:29:18.000 And 50% of that plus is bots.
01:29:21.000 50% of that plus is bots.
01:29:23.000 But let's take the other 50% of that.
01:29:26.000 It's just constantly pushing out information to sell T-shirts or subscriptions or whatever.
01:29:36.000 Listen to my show.
01:29:38.000 And then people are like, hey, FBI, why aren't you looking at this thing in Oklahoma?
01:29:42.000 And I'm like, because it's fake.
01:29:43.000 I don't have time for that.
01:29:45.000 And so to your point on like social media does have a great use in terms of me and – so the reason Dan and I don't do a lot of media is because we're the FBI.
01:29:54.000 Like let our work speak for itself.
01:29:56.000 But we have to find the right balance of going to do media and posting on social media the things we're doing and keeping people updated.
01:30:05.000 And so that's the delicate balance we're trying.
01:30:07.000 But what I'm learning is no matter what you do, it doesn't matter.
01:30:12.000 It's going to – Just completely not make everyone happy.
01:30:18.000 And there's no solve for that in terms of how the FBI operates.
01:30:24.000 But at the same time, the FBI won't be thwarted by it.
01:30:28.000 We're going to keep going.
01:30:30.000 Do you know – I mean I've already told you I've been called a genocidal dictator, which is ironic since I'm the son of a man who fled a genocidal dictatorship in East Africa and his parents lawfully immigrated to this country and had me and now their kid is the FBI director, first-generation Indian kid.
01:30:45.000 Kind of a pretty freaking cool story.
01:30:46.000 That is a cool story.
01:30:47.000 But – I'm like, that's what me and Dan say all the time.
01:30:51.000 You can call us whatever you want.
01:30:52.000 But genocidal dictator, those words don't mean anything anymore if you're calling you that.
01:30:57.000 Well, that's what I mean.
01:30:58.000 You're not a dictator and you're not genocidal.
01:31:00.000 So what are you doing tagging both of those together?
01:31:03.000 What is the proof?
01:31:04.000 And what is the media doing printing it?
01:31:07.000 That's insane.
01:31:08.000 That's an insane thing.
01:31:09.000 But I think they were given a mandate to be the attack dogs.
01:31:15.000 I think they were.
01:31:16.000 And I think during the last administration, they reinforced that.
01:31:19.000 I think...
01:31:21.000 I mean, just look at what happened with the Hunter Biden laptop story where 51 former intelligence agents testified that this...
01:31:29.000 Tell me about how crazy that is.
01:31:31.000 So you want to talk about the ultimate weaponization and total disinformation combining forces, right?
01:31:37.000 A week before – A guy who used to be in the intelligence community says, oh, we got to bring the Hunter Biden laptop thing into play, knowing it was bogus.
01:31:55.000 And they come out and they basically say the FBI, even though knew that Hunter Biden's laptop was a righteous piece of investigatory material and were examining it and at the time knew.
01:32:08.000 That they were going to work up criminal leads on it.
01:32:11.000 Sat silent.
01:32:12.000 Put that over here. 0.56
01:32:13.000 The intelligence community comes in and says, we got to get this information out because the guy who would end up becoming Biden's secretary of state was advising him and saying, hey, we got to squash this Hunter Biden laptop thing.
01:32:25.000 Let's do the Russiagate play.
01:32:27.000 Let's do the Crossfire Hurricane play.
01:32:29.000 So they go to the CIA and they go to then-director Gina Haspel, who, by the way, There's no coincidence in government, Gina Haspel was chief of station London when Russiagate was launched in London.
01:32:42.000 We can come back to that.
01:32:44.000 So now she's director of CIA and we're on the eve of an election.
01:32:49.000 And there's this thing called a pre-publication process.
01:32:51.000 So like when I had to put my book out as a government server, whatever you call it, it has to go in and everybody's got to read it and they got to chop it and whatever.
01:33:01.000 It takes forever, even if it's a two-page document.
01:33:05.000 The 51 Intel letter was written by these same people, some of who participated in Russiagate.
01:33:12.000 And the person that has to authorize that is the director of the CIA before it goes public.
01:33:16.000 Do you know how long she took to authorize the release of the letter?
01:33:20.000 Knowing the information in the letter was false.
01:33:23.000 Knowing that a laptop with Hunter Biden's information on it was true and accurate and being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for criminal purposes.
01:33:31.000 Eight hours.
01:33:32.000 Eight hours.
01:33:34.000 They released that barrage of disinformation for eight hours.
01:33:38.000 And what do we do?
01:33:39.000 We spent the last four years proving up – and we've got more information coming on that too – proving up how those former secretaries of defense, CIA, NSA, deputy directors of the intelligence community all came together to politicize intelligence once again because they got caught on Russia and don't care.
01:33:59.000 And they wanted President Biden to win so badly they were willing to lie to the American people.
01:34:02.000 And they did it again.
01:34:04.000 That is so insane.
01:34:06.000 It's so hard to believe because it's so corrupt and coordinated.
01:34:08.000 The fact that 51 people would be willing to do that.
01:34:13.000 And they've doubled down on it.
01:34:14.000 They keep doubling down on it.
01:34:17.000 How are they doubling down?
01:34:18.000 They've been asked.
01:34:18.000 In what way?
01:34:20.000 In the years since, they've been like, hey, actually...
01:34:28.000 Right.
01:34:29.000 in two different districts.
01:34:31.000 And now we stand by our Guys like Clapper and Brennan and all these guys.
01:34:37.000 So they stand by the idea that that laptop was Russian disinformation.
01:34:37.000 Panetta.
01:34:41.000 And they know it's not.
01:34:43.000 And these guys who rose to the highest ranks in government service won't come off that perch.
01:34:49.000 Because the media will allow them to be propped up.
01:34:52.000 Wow.
01:34:53.000 And it's the same.
01:34:54.000 Totally switching gears, but a similar disinformation tale, January 6th, right?
01:34:54.000 Look.
01:34:58.000 I was chief of staff at DOD on January 6th.
01:35:02.000 Days before January 6th, I was in the Oval Office with the president, the secretary of defense, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on a foreign matter.
01:35:11.000 And on that day, he goes, hey, how's it looking for January 6th?
01:35:17.000 Do you guys have everything you need?
01:35:18.000 And he goes, I'm going to authorize.
01:35:20.000 Up to 10,000 to 20,000 National Guardsmen and women if you guys need them anywhere in the country.
01:35:24.000 The reason that's important is because we can't uniformly deploy military in the United States.
01:35:29.000 That's what the National Guard's for.
01:35:30.000 But in order to do that, the president has to, one, authorize it, and two, the mayor or governor, so it's D.C., so it's the mayor and the Capitol Police and the Speaker of the House are in charge, have to request the deployment of troops.
01:35:46.000 We went to them days before January 6th.
01:35:48.000 We went to Bowser.
01:35:49.000 We went to Pelosi.
01:35:50.000 They said no in writing.
01:35:52.000 We were excoriated for it.
01:35:54.000 Your guys are lying.
01:35:55.000 You didn't offer this up.
01:35:57.000 If you had been there, this would have never happened.
01:35:59.000 Well, actually, President Trump preemptively authorized 10 to 20,000 National Guard.
01:36:03.000 And what happened?
01:36:03.000 I spent the next three years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees testifying before Congress.
01:36:10.000 Proving up just what I had said was the truth.
01:36:13.000 Then the documents came.
01:36:14.000 We finally got them out because I know what we had written.
01:36:16.000 And it showed Bowser in writing declining National Guard.
01:36:20.000 It showed Pelosi in writing saying no to the Capitol Police.
01:36:24.000 Don't get the National Guard.
01:36:25.000 So they wanted it to be chaos.
01:36:27.000 Well, I'll leave to you on that.
01:36:30.000 But what I'm telling you is they knew.
01:36:32.000 They knew what was true.
01:36:34.000 They knew what was false.
01:36:35.000 And I'm not asking you to give an opinion on the events of January 6th.
01:36:39.000 But had 10,000 of my guys been there, do you think it would have gone differently?
01:36:44.000 Yeah, 100%.
01:36:45.000 They stopped it.
01:36:46.000 And they spent years lying.
01:36:47.000 And now we're still lying about that authorization, even though we've put it to bed.
01:36:51.000 Like Russiagate.
01:36:52.000 Like Hunter Biden's laptop.
01:36:54.000 51 Intel letter.
01:36:56.000 They keep doing it over and over again.
01:36:58.000 What about agent provocateurs that were involved?
01:37:02.000 In January 6th.
01:37:03.000 So what we just released to Congress was, I think we're still digging through it, is there was a couple of dozen sources that were involved with January 6th.
01:37:14.000 And so we're getting Congress those files and the American people are going to learn the extent of that.
01:37:18.000 We're doubling down on our investigation on the pipe bomber because we think it's of great public importance that someone almost blew up.
01:37:25.000 The headquarters for the RNC and DNC and, oh, by the way, the vice president of the United States happened to be in the vicinity of that pipe bomb.
01:37:31.000 How did that pipe bomb not detonate?
01:37:33.000 Was it faulty?
01:37:34.000 Did they never activate it?
01:37:36.000 Yeah, it's the latter.
01:37:40.000 But we keep going back to events like January 6th and I keep trying to say, hey, again, don't trust me.
01:37:49.000 We put out the truth about Russiagate, about 51 Intel Letter, about Hunter Biden's laptop, about the National Guard on January 6th.
01:37:54.000 These are the guys that are now in charge about these sensitive issues like the pipe bomber and all this information you want.
01:38:01.000 So we're giving you – we're the ones that are reopening these investigations and doubling down on them.
01:38:06.000 COVID origins.
01:38:07.000 We think that there was definite foul play.
01:38:10.000 But my opinion is irrelevant.
01:38:12.000 It only matters what I can show to the American people and prove.
01:38:14.000 And that's what we're working on.
01:38:15.000 That's why I don't run out there and say, look, we're going to get this guy.
01:38:18.000 We're 100% going to get him.
01:38:19.000 We're working our butts off to get him.
01:38:20.000 We're also working our butts off to identify who brought cocaine into the White House.
01:38:24.000 Because when you bring a felony narcotic into the most secure compound in the world, I think the world has a right to know.
01:38:30.000 Yeah, is there footage of that?
01:38:31.000 So we're on it.
01:38:32.000 Well, there's like a known guy who likes coke.
01:38:35.000 Who happened to be at the White House at the same time.
01:38:38.000 Well, again, also I don't want to jump to conclusions because I've done this for a long enough time where even the most obvious suspect, you're like, well, shit, it wasn't him, it was her.
01:38:46.000 Right.
01:38:47.000 And so let's do it methodically.
01:38:49.000 We are.
01:38:50.000 It's of great public.
01:38:52.000 If someone brought a dime bag of cocaine or however you package it, I don't know, or pills of fentanyl into the White House now.
01:39:01.000 Yeah.
01:39:02.000 In a Trump administration, what do you think the media would say?
01:39:04.000 What a wild motherfucker doing coke in the White House. 1.00
01:39:07.000 You know how wild you have to be to be doing lines in the bathroom of the White House?
01:39:12.000 I was like dancing the line when I was using the bathroom that I wasn't supposed to use because I wanted to go to the East Wing and they had a nicer setup.
01:39:19.000 And I was like hiding my badge.
01:39:21.000 That's as far as I took it.
01:39:23.000 It's just such a crazy thing to do.
01:39:26.000 Like you have to be completely off the rails where you can't be on coke for just a few hours while you're hanging out at the White House.
01:39:32.000 I need a little bump.
01:39:32.000 You're like, no, no, no.
01:39:33.000 I need a little bump in the White House.
01:39:35.000 It's crazy, man.
01:39:37.000 I would think that, like, everybody would get urine tested immediately upon finding that bag.
01:39:42.000 Well, you could have done a lot of things then, but they didn't.
01:39:45.000 Of course.
01:39:46.000 They didn't want it.
01:39:47.000 I mean, there wasn't even a suspect, right?
01:39:49.000 No.
01:39:50.000 For them, they were just like, ah, whatever, we're done.
01:39:53.000 Wild.
01:39:54.000 Wild, right?
01:39:55.000 And, you know, so it's just...
01:39:58.000 I mean, you have to...
01:40:01.000 My other mission is to...
01:40:06.000 Was the bathroom the men's room or the women's room or was it like an all-gender bathroom where anybody can go into? 0.98
01:40:11.000 You know, I'm not sure.
01:40:12.000 I got to go back.
01:40:13.000 That's a good point.
01:40:13.000 I got to go back and look.
01:40:14.000 I actually got to go back and look.
01:40:16.000 But I think when we do these things and we answer these questions for the American people, we're restoring the trust in the FBI.
01:40:22.000 That's what I can control.
01:40:24.000 That's sorely needed.
01:40:25.000 Because when I go around the country, this is not me saying it or the leadership saying it.
01:40:29.000 The FBI's credibility took a hit because of these actions by these few people in charge.
01:40:35.000 And we're building it back.
01:40:37.000 We've done a lot in 100 days to get it back.
01:40:39.000 And I think if you wait for the rest of this year, you're going to see some massive, massive actions taken over the summer.
01:40:48.000 And our priorities, and I changed it, are sort of our website and our pillars.
01:40:55.000 Uphold the Constitution, defend the homeland, crush filing crime, and rigorous constitutional congressional oversight so that we restore trust.
01:41:03.000 That's what we want to do.
01:41:04.000 Now, a lot of people got pardons, like more pardons, I think, than anyone ever, right?
01:41:10.000 Yeah.
01:41:11.000 Ever.
01:41:12.000 Does the pardon cover—like if you find that Fauci lied to Congress, like when Rand Paul was talking to him about gain-of-function research, clearly he was being deceptive.
01:41:25.000 Are they pardoned for that as well?
01:41:28.000 Because it was like this crazy blanket pardon from 2014 forward, which I didn't even know you could do.
01:41:33.000 So I'm the investigator.
01:41:35.000 So that would be a decision for the Department of Justice.
01:41:37.000 They'll have to make that.
01:41:38.000 I don't know the answer to that.
01:41:40.000 We'll work it up and we'll say this is what we found and then legal minds will have to come in and chop on – Is that the same sort of thing applied to the 51 intelligence agents that lied about the laptop?
01:41:54.000 I think the same scenario applies to anyone who got the pardon.
01:41:57.000 I can't remember exactly who off the top of my head got it, if there was some of them or none of them or what happens.
01:42:01.000 But that's never happened before in the history of the country.
01:42:04.000 So there's literally no legal precedent, as we say, to figure out how that goes.
01:42:09.000 But what I can do, irrespective of the pardon and how it applies, is produce the information in the documents.
01:42:18.000 What a crazy place to come into, you know?
01:42:18.000 Jeez.
01:42:22.000 It's a gong show.
01:42:25.000 Is it surprising how dysfunctional it is to you?
01:42:29.000 Well, I think I would change that a little bit.
01:42:32.000 I think I'm thrilled at how functional most of the FBI is.
01:42:39.000 I'm shocked at the levels of depravity, and even me, that few in leadership.
01:42:44.000 Would do to alter that and then go out to the public and lie about it.
01:42:48.000 You got James Comey running around and he can yell at me all he wants and Andy McCabe can too.
01:42:52.000 This is another perfect example, right?
01:42:54.000 These two guys used to run the Bureau.
01:42:57.000 And we had a guy in Denver without his shirt off running around throwing 16 Molotov cocktails on human beings shouting Free Palestine.
01:43:10.000 I got that information because I'm the director of the FBI and I put out a statement because the American people need to know.
01:43:15.000 We are investigating this matter as an act of terrorism.
01:43:19.000 CNN, New York Times come in and crush us.
01:43:22.000 These guys don't know what they're doing.
01:43:23.000 How dare they label it as such?
01:43:25.000 the investigation is still ongoing.
01:43:42.000 That's what you want your FBI doing.
01:43:44.000 What you don't want your FBI doing is having New Orleans and Super Bowl.
01:43:47.000 And having another known terrorist come in there and run people over and kill them and then have the FBI go to the podium and say this is not an act of terrorism.
01:43:55.000 That is the politicization of the FBI.
01:43:58.000 That's what we've changed.
01:43:59.000 And I think the American people are seeing it and I think our results are speaking to it.
01:44:04.000 But that doesn't even make sense that The New York Times would criticize that and criticize the description of it as an act of terrorism when it – But the action itself, you're throwing Molotov cocktails on human beings that are at a political, peaceful rally.
01:44:22.000 That's terrorism, isn't it?
01:44:24.000 I mean, what is terrorism if that's not terrorism?
01:44:26.000 And what I can say, remember, the charging is for the Department of Justice.
01:44:29.000 What I can say is what I'm investigating it as.
01:44:32.000 And that's what I'm investigating it as.
01:44:33.000 Because the facts to that point in time quickly relayed to me by our people in the field, the pros, said, hey, this is what we got.
01:44:40.000 This is what happened.
01:44:42.000 Everyone's talking about it.
01:44:43.000 Let's report out to the American people what we can responsibly.
01:44:46.000 And that was a responsible way of doing it.
01:44:48.000 But that's what I'm saying.
01:44:49.000 These people that used to run the FBI are coming in there and they would have made the same decisions.
01:44:55.000 It's just the fact that we're making them and they got fired because they got caught conspiring against the United States of America and weaponizing the FBI and CNN has given them a platform.
01:45:05.000 They keep crippling this country by putting out these stupid statements or not stupid, these intentionally False statements to attack us.
01:45:13.000 And again, you can hit me and Bongino all you want. 0.58
01:45:15.000 We don't care.
01:45:16.000 We're winning.
01:45:17.000 I believe we're winning this fight.
01:45:19.000 We're winning it because the American people are like, hey, that wasn't an act of terrorism.
01:45:23.000 I hope you get the bad guys.
01:45:25.000 And I don't know if you just saw, but we also remember the fertility clinic that was bombed in Southern California.
01:45:34.000 We just busted the co-conspirator in Poland and brought him back last night. 1.00
01:45:41.000 And now he's getting charged because publicly what we can say is he procured something like 45 pounds of ammonium nitrate.
01:45:50.000 So what we're doing is investigating acts of terrorism as acts of terrorism.
01:45:55.000 And we're utilizing our authorities overseas under that to give the American people justice.
01:46:00.000 The guy didn't act alone.
01:46:01.000 What about the shooter, the savage shooter in Washington, D.C., who comes in and murders?
01:46:10.000 Two people for the Israeli embassy in cold blood, like just literally, what is it, 21 – I don't know how many shots, right?
01:46:18.000 Yelling something, free Gaza, whatever.
01:46:20.000 We investigated that as an act of terrorism because that's what it is. 0.50
01:46:24.000 That's what the American people deserve to hear.
01:46:27.000 I'm not saying they don't have a presumption of innocence.
01:46:29.000 I'm not saying that they're going to be convicted at trial.
01:46:32.000 But I'm telling you as the director of the FBI what I'm doing as the number one cop in this country and who is in charge of investigations.
01:46:39.000 That's my call to make and I'll make it every time.
01:46:42.000 I just don't understand how the media, particularly the thing in Colorado, how they could print.
01:46:49.000 That this is not an act of terrorism and not diminish all of whatever credibility they have left.
01:46:55.000 I just don't understand why they would even be willing to do that.
01:46:58.000 I think it all goes back to the same derangement syndrome that people have.
01:47:05.000 Yeah.
01:47:06.000 Their hatred for certain individuals and people who dare to work in those administrations is so great that they don't care about the truth.
01:47:18.000 They care about the platform.
01:47:21.000 And they'll go on and they'll be given a platform on TV or in print media or on other shows.
01:47:30.000 And there's still a significant portion of the American populace that is willing to give them their ear.
01:47:36.000 That's what I'm trying to change.
01:47:37.000 We're never going to get everybody.
01:47:38.000 But if we can get 10% of them, I think it's a home run.
01:47:43.000 We get 20, we're totally winning.
01:47:47.000 All day long.
01:47:48.000 But it's going to take time.
01:47:50.000 I mean, I know that people are super—everybody wants Ozempic today, right?
01:47:50.000 Yeah.
01:47:55.000 They just want it—you know, they want a quick fix.
01:47:57.000 And when you're dealing with four years of whatever the hell was going on and nine million people being released into this country and all the stuff that comes with it, it just would stand to reason.
01:48:09.000 It would take a long time to unravel all that or to fix all the problems that were created.
01:48:14.000 That is—man.
01:48:16.000 I hope you clip that and play that over and over again.
01:48:19.000 That's what I've been trying to explain to people.
01:48:21.000 I'm like, we're going to fix as much as we can, but you guys want answers yesterday for problems that have been metastasizing for decades.
01:48:29.000 Also, you want to have all the information in place when you finally do go public with everything where you can't miss things.
01:48:37.000 Not cross a T, dot an I, and someone can get off.
01:48:40.000 That, and we also...
01:48:43.000 That is just as equally as important as the following.
01:48:45.000 We want to fix the institution so it doesn't happen again.
01:48:49.000 That's the bigger win.
01:48:51.000 Catching the bad guys is the everyday job.
01:48:53.000 We're going to do it.
01:48:54.000 Calling out the people who corrupted the place in the past is hugely important.
01:48:58.000 But leaving the American people, an FBI, a DOD, a CIA, a functional national security apparatus is my ultimate goal.
01:49:11.000 So the apparatus that was in place before that was so riddled with corruption, what do you think happened between Trump's, between when he was in for the first term and the four years?
01:49:23.000 Like, how did it get so bad?
01:49:27.000 When he left?
01:49:29.000 Yeah, when he left in the last four years.
01:49:31.000 I mean, I'm assuming there was always corruption.
01:49:34.000 But how did it get so bad in this past four years?
01:49:38.000 Because of the priorities.
01:49:40.000 They completely shifted the priorities.
01:49:43.000 But how does that encourage corruption amongst the top officials?
01:49:48.000 Because the priorities themselves were corrupt.
01:49:51.000 Focusing on DEI and climate change is a political potshot to weaponize the Department of Defense and the intelligence community and the law enforcement community to say we're going to promote you based on your background and beliefs rather than your ability to get through the pipeline.
01:50:09.000 Another thing we're doing is we're changing the PFT, the physical fitness test at the Federal Bureau of Investigation for new agents and for current agents because it's wholly insufficient.
01:50:20.000 I'm not asking you to be a special forces operator, but I am asking you to be able to take down a dude running away from you in a 100-yard sprint who may be twice your size and detain him and safeguard the American public.
01:50:30.000 And so when you don't focus on those things for years, years.
01:50:35.000 And you focus on promoting people based on, I'm not here because of the color of my skin, but when you do that, this is what happens.
01:50:43.000 And then when the media celebrates these victories, people are like, oh yeah, I'm going to subscribe to that because I hate the other side so much.
01:50:52.000 I'm just going to go along.
01:50:54.000 I honestly don't believe what most of the people are putting out there in the media, that they actually believe it.
01:51:00.000 I think they go home at night and they're like, yep.
01:51:04.000 We know this is wrong, but we've made our bed, and we are going to sleep in it every single night, and we are not going to retract.
01:51:11.000 That is such an insane decision.
01:51:13.000 It's such an insane decision, and again, it diminishes the credibility of an already damaged organization.
01:51:19.000 I mean, now people know about Russiagate.
01:51:22.000 They know about the Hunter Biden laptop story.
01:51:23.000 They know about the Steele dossier.
01:51:25.000 They know about all this shit that happened.
01:51:27.000 Like, their faith in media, especially after the pandemic, their faith in media has been deteriorated so badly that I can't imagine they wouldn't just, for self-preservation reasons, shift course.
01:51:43.000 But the problem is they have been able to persevere.
01:51:47.000 In their space.
01:51:49.000 And they're not looking to persevere anything past it.
01:51:52.000 I mean look at the – from a monetary standpoint, most of the media has been losing money for years.
01:51:59.000 But they keep reporting it.
01:52:01.000 They don't care.
01:52:02.000 Most of these editors-in-chiefs at these big wig operations get blown out the door in a year or two. 0.98
01:52:07.000 New people come in and buy it.
01:52:09.000 They keep losing money.
01:52:10.000 Most of these shows on mainstream media, the TV shows at night, their hosts get fired every other minute.
01:52:16.000 Because their ratings suck.
01:52:18.000 But the institutions themselves don't care to change.
01:52:21.000 They don't go out and bring in a Joe Rogan.
01:52:24.000 That would probably be what it takes, in my opinion, to fix something like that.
01:52:29.000 Do you imagine?
01:52:31.000 I don't think you should do it.
01:52:32.000 Get the fuck out of here.
01:52:33.000 They would torture me.
01:52:35.000 Every news story...
01:52:35.000 It would be horrible.
01:52:37.000 I mean, we just...
01:52:42.000 You see they're willing to push narratives that just are not true.
01:52:46.000 It's just so hard to imagine how you can sustain the American people's trust.
01:52:51.000 And if you don't sustain the American people's trust, you're going to keep losing money.
01:52:56.000 I know CNN made somewhat of a concerted effort to try to be objective for a while.
01:53:02.000 They brought on Scott Jennings.
01:53:04.000 They've changed a bunch of things in that regard.
01:53:07.000 It's still, like, some of the panel talks they have, you're just like, what fucking planet are you guys even living on?
01:53:13.000 Right, and the problems we're facing, he does a good job of highlighting.
01:53:16.000 He's like, hey man, these pro-Hamas positions didn't happen overnight.
01:53:21.000 They happened because we let in all these people from all over the world, and they came in, and they started attending our universities, and they started getting together, and they started seeing in the media that that was a quote-unquote popular thing to do.
01:53:35.000 And then that ethos spread.
01:53:36.000 And now look what we have.
01:53:37.000 We have chaos on college campuses.
01:53:39.000 We've got lone wolf attackers.
01:53:40.000 We've got terrorists.
01:53:41.000 We've got openings for our narco-traffickers. 1.00
01:53:46.000 We haven't even touched upon what our adversaries are doing to our cyber infrastructure.
01:53:50.000 I mean Salt Typhoon is a massive telecommunications breach engineered by the CCP.
01:53:56.000 It's public.
01:53:57.000 It's not classified.
01:53:59.000 And they literally got into our United States of America's Telecommunications providers.
01:54:06.000 Broken.
01:54:09.000 And we are playing catch-up.
01:54:12.000 These are the priorities we're focused on.
01:54:15.000 We have solutions for them.
01:54:16.000 They take time.
01:54:18.000 They're not sexy.
01:54:19.000 No one wants to talk about upgrading the nuclear arsenal of the triad.
01:54:22.000 It's not the sexy thing to talk about, but that's what we need to do.
01:54:25.000 No one wants to talk about hardening our infrastructure and fixing our grid switch system across the country.
01:54:30.000 You take out one electrical grid infrastructure plant and you take out a large chunk of this country.
01:54:36.000 But when you don't prioritize those things for years in these last however many years, then – Let's double down.
01:54:48.000 And what our adversaries are doing, we haven't even talked about the war and Hamas and all that stuff.
01:54:53.000 We don't have to.
01:54:54.000 But they're teaming up.
01:54:55.000 They're saying, look, we really don't like each other, but we don't like America more.
01:55:00.000 So why don't we partner up?
01:55:02.000 Why don't we use you, the drug trafficking organizations in Mexico, for human smuggling?
01:55:08.000 Not just drugs.
01:55:09.000 Why don't we use – you, Russia, Iran, the CCP get together.
01:55:15.000 We'll sell ammunitions to you because you can't get them from anywhere else in the world.
01:55:18.000 You don't have access to banks.
01:55:19.000 The biggest threat we have from a counterterrorism standpoint is Iran and that's why the president is trying to achieve a peaceful resolution with them and end this war that Hamas started in October in Israel and Gaza. 0.94
01:55:34.000 Nothing would be a better solution than a peaceful one to that because we talked about hostages before.
01:55:39.000 And what did they just report out?
01:55:41.000 Two more American Israeli citizens' bodies were uncovered yesterday or the day before.
01:55:46.000 The cost of these wars, people don't see and feel right away.
01:55:52.000 And unless you give them in your face 24-7 coverage of it, their focus is going to be on what CNN is talking about.
01:56:03.000 And how they're talking about it.
01:56:05.000 Yeah.
01:56:06.000 And that's part of the shift.
01:56:08.000 And that's like one of the large reasons.
01:56:10.000 I was like, we have to come on this show.
01:56:12.000 We have to at least swing at it.
01:56:15.000 I don't know how many people.
01:56:16.000 Maybe no one will watch it.
01:56:17.000 Maybe some people watch it.
01:56:18.000 Oh, a lot of people are going to watch this.
01:56:19.000 No.
01:56:20.000 But that's not the point for me.
01:56:24.000 We just have to try to reach different audiences.
01:56:29.000 We have to, have to, have to, have to try.
01:56:32.000 Yeah, well, I don't think people have heard it from your perspective before like this, especially over a long form.
01:56:37.000 I know you have a hard out at three o 'clock.
01:56:39.000 Yeah, sorry.
01:56:39.000 It's three o 'clock now.
01:56:40.000 So thank you.
01:56:42.000 Thanks for being here.
01:56:43.000 Really appreciate it.
01:56:44.000 And I appreciate you illuminating a lot of these things that I think are very confusing to a lot of people.
01:56:49.000 And I think you've answered a lot of questions as to like how long time takes and what the process is like.
01:56:53.000 But I appreciate everything you're doing.
01:56:55.000 It means a lot to me.
01:56:56.000 I can't believe that was two hours.
01:56:58.000 That's awesome.
01:57:00.000 Hopefully I can come back.
01:57:01.000 But look.
01:57:02.000 Please do.
01:57:02.000 Just a parting message, if I may.
01:57:02.000 Absolutely.
01:57:05.000 I appreciate the show and what you've done.
01:57:08.000 And I love seeing it.
01:57:09.000 UFC fights.
01:57:10.000 I'll see you at one soon.
01:57:12.000 But I just want to say this for the folks at the FBI.
01:57:18.000 And I probably should have answered when you first asked me.
01:57:20.000 The thing I'm most proud of is most all of them.
01:57:24.000 They're crushing it.
01:57:25.000 They're crushing it and they've been wanting to do it for so long that this part, this job's easy.
01:57:33.000 My job's easy.
01:57:34.000 What they're doing is hard.
01:57:36.000 Me moving people around the country, taking them from their families, uprooting them, and everybody's like, that's the mission.
01:57:44.000 That's what we're here to do.
01:57:45.000 And I don't want people to take away, oh, okay, he's bought and sold by everybody that corrupted the place.
01:57:49.000 If you look at the show and you look at it in its entirety and don't take clips from it, you'll see what we're about.
01:57:55.000 And putting the mission first.
01:57:58.000 Thanks, brother.
01:57:58.000 Thank you very much.
01:57:59.000 Bye, everybody.
01:57:59.000 Appreciate you.