In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the host talks about the recent discovery of some mysterious structures found under the Giza Pyramid, and whether or not they can be used to solve the mystery of what's under there.
00:00:55.000Christopher Dunn, man, that was a wild one.
00:00:57.000And now that they found these structures underneath the pyramid, it's kind of validating a lot of the things these people were saying.
00:01:03.000You know, there's a lot of controversy about what those structures are and what it means and how accurate the readings are.
00:01:10.000But they do know that those satellite images were able to show very accurately this one tomb that was 50 feet underground.
00:01:18.000And it showed the dimensions of this one tomb.
00:01:21.000So I don't know what the capabilities are, if it really can decipher what's under two kilometers of, you know, whatever is underneath Giza.
00:01:30.000But there's something going on for sure.
00:01:32.000Yeah, I had a dude on my show a couple weeks ago who was explaining how that was a part of some YouTube channel that put something together in Italy, I think it was.
00:01:40.000And the people that were involved with it were promoting some sort of technology that had something to do with penetrating the ground, some like different kind of LIDAR or something like this.
00:02:54.000Yeah, he thinks that the whole thing, his new book, which is called The Tesla Connection, basically explains that it's a, he thinks that there was like a device in the subterranean chamber, like a hammer that hammered the earth.
00:03:08.000And then the plane, the Giza Plateau is like, is active, seismically active area.
00:03:14.000And when it hammers the earth, it creates many earthquakes.
00:03:32.000The Overcome is author has analyzed micromovements within the pyramid, typically induced by background seismic waves to achieve high-resolution, full 3D tomographic images of its interior, imaging of its interior and subsurface.
00:03:46.000The approach rendered the pyramid transparent, allowing for the reconstruction of internal objects and the discovery of previously unseen structures.
00:03:54.000So if it works and shows the actual internal structure of the pyramid accurately, and it can accurately depict that one, the one, was it a temple or what was it that was, I feel like it was a temple.
00:04:20.000These guys, guys like Zawi Hawass and these gatekeepers of this information, they do not want any groundbreaking new discovery to come out.
00:04:32.000If you really find out there's giant columns underneath the pyramid and that there's these structures that go down two kilometers into the ground, like all bets are off then.
00:04:44.000Try explaining that away for people that live 2,500 BC.
00:04:50.000I mean, you know, the mystery of the pyramids and, you know, moving those blocks and building that fucking thing that long ago is crazy on one hand.
00:04:58.000But then on the other hand, those fucking granite vases that are so precise within like the deviation of a human hair.
00:05:05.000Yeah, this is a 3D print of one of them that Christopher Dunn gave me.
00:05:57.000When they burned the Library of Alexandria and they destroyed all the records, there's so much missing from the history of Egypt and how they did what they did.
00:06:20.000He lives like, I think right across the street from the pyramids.
00:06:23.000And he's basically got this very interesting theory that it was all chemical manufacturing.
00:06:32.000And the pyramids were chemical manufacturing plants.
00:06:35.000And I am going to like butcher this description, but I'm going to do my best.
00:06:38.000Basically, what he found was that in a bunch of the other pyramids, like the red pyramid and some of the other pyramids, he's been in there and gone through them all.
00:06:47.000And he's basically, what they describe when they go in there is this smell, which some people equate to being like bat shit.
00:06:56.000But what he thinks is going on is it's creating some sort of like a chemical reaction in those chambers to create fertilizer.
00:07:03.000Because there's a subterranean chamber below those where they have like all kinds of, they were putting shit in there, like animal shit down there.
00:07:10.000And then there's also these like ravines, these like cut out channels that come out of the bottom of the pyramid and there's these bowls that were supposed to collect like chemicals.
00:07:20.000So he has this really elaborate theory on how, which I, when I heard him tell me this, it made so much sense.
00:07:27.000But the problem was like, it makes sense.
00:07:30.000It seems super reasonable, but like why build these massive structures that are so precise just to make chemicals?
00:07:40.000And, you know, he was explaining like the agriculture and like why they needed to create fertilizer.
00:07:45.000And why'd they need the massive stone structure to create fertilizer?
00:08:08.000But it seems like the way he was describing the interior, though, of that, of the red pyramid was like it was reverse engineered to actually create the chemical that they would have needed to enhance the agriculture of the area.
00:08:45.000The whole those columns that went down, those passages that went down, and then there was the porous limestone that was at the end that seeped through.
00:08:54.000And he believed that this was all like some sort of a chemical reaction that they had to doing this.
00:09:18.000Fritz Haber, he devised a method of extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere.
00:09:26.000And for that, he was winning a Nobel Prize at the same time in which he was being wanted for war crimes because he also created Zyklon gas.
00:09:37.000So he created the gas that they were using to spray on the Allies.
00:09:42.000So they would get this gas and spray it with fans.
00:09:46.000This was the first time they'd ever done something like this before, used gas in warfare.
00:09:50.000And they used, and he was a Jew, and they used, he created Zyklon A, which was then converted to Zyklon B. So Zyklon A had a very disgusting smell to it, so you knew it was coming.
00:10:05.000And then Zyklon B they used during the Holocaust to gas the Jews.
00:10:29.000But the Fritz Haber thing, you know, he was eventually exiled from Nazi Germany because he was Jewish.
00:10:38.000Like, they allowed him to stay initially in the beginning because he was so valuable because he had done so much and because he did create this gas that they were using to gas the Allies.
00:10:48.000And then, you know, but imagine, guys, up for a Nobel Prize at the same time where he's wanted for war crimes.
00:11:44.000You had Annie on here and she talked about what was going on when she tried to interview some of those guys that were still in Germany.
00:11:50.000I think she tried to interview like the grandson of one of the dudes that she wrote about.
00:11:56.000I can't remember his name right now, a dude with like a huge dueling scar on his face.
00:11:59.000And this guy like wanted nothing to do with his father or whatever.
00:12:03.000And, you know, she had these documents that she found when she went to Germany.
00:12:10.000And she was like, I guess she found a bunch of notes or whatever that he wrote to his son when he came after he went to America with paperclip.
00:12:18.000And his grand, or this was his grandson, I think.
00:12:21.000Operation Paperclip for people listening is they shipped over a bunch of the best Nazi scientists and brought him into NASA and some other departments at the end of the war.
00:12:30.000And the grandson wanted nothing to do with his father.
00:12:33.000He like detested him, his father, with every fiber of his being.
00:12:37.000And she was showing him the notes and like showing him like the humanity of the guy.
00:12:40.000The guy was torn between like being this scientist contracted to do all this crazy shit for America, but he still loved his wife and son on the other hand.
00:12:50.000And he was like, he was so just torn apart by the fact that he had to leave them behind.
00:12:55.000And then she showed the dude the documents.
00:12:57.000And then Annie Jacobson freaking high-tailed it out of there with all that secret Nazi Shit, like, didn't get caught, which is incredible.
00:13:04.000Well, it's just wild the stuff they were working on.
00:13:26.000We have talked about Operation Paperclip, but only in regards to like Wernher von Braun.
00:13:31.000And, you know, they were in like deep denial about that.
00:13:33.000But the Simon Wiesenthal Center said that if Werner von Braun was alive today, he would be prosecuted.
00:13:39.000He'd be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
00:13:42.000Yeah, when he was running his rocket factory in Berlin, he would take the five slowest Jews and hang them from the front of the factory so that as you're walking in, like, this is what happens if you move slowly.
00:13:55.000And that was the head of NASA who supposedly got us to the moon.
00:14:12.000The connections between Kubrick's the shining and the moon landing and all the hidden stuff that he did, all the Easter eggs, including the little boy with the NASA shirt on, the Apollo shirt on.
00:14:23.000The Apollo 11 shirt on, and then the key to the room 237 said room N, instead of NO 237, it said room N 237.
00:15:06.000And then like also the psychological trauma, the scenes with Jack and his wife saying like, don't you know what a contract is?
00:15:14.000Where he's like living his double life and he's like arguing with his wife and talking about contracts and secrecy and all this stuff.
00:15:22.000And then, you know, there's that, there's so many weird things and like that ball rolls up to Danny on the carpet and then it cuts and then it cuts back to him.
00:15:30.000Like picks up the ball and the carpet shape is different.
00:15:33.000There's so many like strange streams in there.
00:15:57.000And it's amazing that he pulled off the greatest science fiction movie of all time, especially at the time, during the exact same time period where the moon landings were filmed.
00:16:09.000And the stuff from 2001 is more sophisticated.
00:16:13.000It looks better than the stuff from the moon landings.
00:16:15.000So the idea that you couldn't fake it.
00:16:18.000It's like, yeah, that guy could fake it.
00:16:53.000The thing about the, like, if you think the moon landing was fake, you're a moron.
00:16:57.000But it's like, the thing about it is if they, even if you want to say they did go to the moon, wouldn't it be reasonable to suggest that they would have had a backup plan in case they couldn't get there?
00:17:12.000Like, like have some sort of a video footage that they shot or whatever?
00:17:15.000Well, not only that, they filmed a lot of training footage.
00:17:18.000They definitely tried to pass some of that training footage off as legit.
00:17:31.000So there's an image of him that was in training.
00:17:36.000And, you know, he's got the suit on and the wires.
00:17:38.000And he's, you know, working with the spacesuit that you use when you're actually in outside of the capsule or whatever the fuck they call it.
00:17:48.000And what they did was from the training mission, they just blacked out the exterior of the same photo and reversed it.
00:17:54.000So they switched the photo the other way, blacked, it's the exact same photo, the exact same photo, and they tried to pass it off as Michael Collins on the spacewalk.
00:18:03.000Because you got to think, like, how are they taking pictures?
00:18:05.000Who's going to take the picture of them out there?
00:18:07.000This is part of the problem with, I think it was Apollo 12 or 13, whichever one it was, where they got the footage of the lunar module leaving the moon and going back towards the orbiter.
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00:21:45.000There's also inconsistent things with what he said during the pro-flight press conference right after flying in comparison to his 1994 book.
00:22:01.000And then in the 1994 book, he talks about how amazing they were and incredible.
00:22:06.000The footage that Sabrell acquired that shows that it appears that they covered up the windows to make this deceptive film that looks like they're far into space.
00:22:18.000That's a weird one, man, because I can't find any rational explanation.
00:22:24.000I tried to look at it like as objectively as possible because I've gone back and forth on the moon thing.
00:22:28.000Like at one point in time, I thought I'm just being really stupid.
00:22:32.000Like, of course they went to the moon.
00:22:41.000Like once I saw the level of deception that was willfully pushed forth during COVID and how many people were cooperating with this and like how many organizations, government organizations were cooperating, knowing that they lied, knowing that these were lies.
00:22:56.000I'm like, yeah, they can lie about all kinds of things.
00:25:04.000Well, they have a GDP, but they don't have the same sort of corporate structure that we have in America where they're striving and innovating and developing new things.
00:25:11.000The companies are getting bigger and there's more growth.
00:25:25.000And then, you know, during the time, and, you know, all the other people before him as well, but during the time where they were developing these rocket ships, the Russians were way more advanced than us in basically every single thing.
00:25:38.000They got to space first, put the first man in space, put the first satellite in space, and they couldn't even come close to putting a guy on the moon.
00:26:21.000And the problem with it is like if a rogue nuke got launched from North Korea from one of their submarines, it would have to fly over the North Pole right towards us.
00:26:30.000And as soon as they launch it with all of our satellite systems that we can detect the thing, the rocket burner going into orbit, we'll know within five minutes of them launching it, probably before.
00:26:40.000And then we literally have to, I guess the way she described it was our policy is once that nuke is launched, we have to empty our silos, our ICBM silos, because they're stationary.
00:26:52.000They can't, if they're hit, they're going to try to take us out at those ICBM sites.
00:26:55.000That's going to be like one of their first targets.
00:27:14.000And then by that time, it's like, if you don't have like perfect communication amongst all these world leaders, everyone's going to be launching nukes.
00:27:22.000Well, you know the story about that one Russian military guy that was the reason why Russia didn't launch a retaliatory strike?
00:29:46.000Well, I mean, look, if you have some unique compound like LSD and, you know, it gets, you know, Hoffman discovers it, and then they start experimenting, like, what can we do with this stuff?
00:29:57.000And then you find it has profound effects on the human mind.
00:30:00.000Of course, you're going to try to use it for mind control.
00:30:03.000They had already experimented with all sorts of techniques in regards to doing it with prisoners, like taking prisoners and trying to figure out like what kind of sleep deprivation, what psychological techniques can you use to extract information from them.
00:30:20.000So if you had something like LSD, of course they're going to try that.
00:32:14.000There's a The DARPA, that DARPA grant that went to University of North Carolina to figure out how to take the psychedelic trip out of LSD, I think it was.
00:32:25.000They're trying to make super soldiers, right?
00:32:26.000They're trying to make them so they can, this is what I've heard, is that they are trying to make them more effective on the battlefield with things like edge detection and also coming back, like get back out there, like take them through the process, let them recoup and get right back out in the battlefield to where,
00:32:45.000you know, if you could get all the benefits of a psychedelic without the trip, would you get those benefits and would it be useful for soldiers in combat?
00:33:10.000It doesn't make sense to us because we think of mushrooms as like, you know, hey, man, I'm going to go connect with God and it's going to be peaceful.
00:33:18.000I'm going to reset and come back and tell everybody I love them.
00:33:20.000You know, that's what mushrooms are to us.
00:33:22.000But if you live in an insanely warlike culture and you believe it's right to go to battle and you're supposed to go to battle and Odin is on your side and you take these mushrooms to summon the strength of the gods and to prepare yourself for battle.
00:33:37.000And I know a lot of guys who fight on mushrooms.
00:34:19.000There's this dude who is like, I heard about Dana Beale, who's flying Ibogaine to the troops in Ukraine, to the Ukrainian troops, trying to get those guys on Ibogaine.
00:34:28.000And meanwhile, the Russians are on, what's that meth drop?
00:34:32.000There's like a new age meth that they're on.
00:36:41.000Like, he's right about a lot of things.
00:36:42.000He picks up on trends and culture and sees where people are going.
00:36:46.000And he was aware of the dangers of Marxism and a lot of this fucking ridiculous leftist ideology that they were pushing in universities way before anybody else was.
00:36:56.000Yeah, there was this documentary that just came out all about him from one of the guys, Thomas, that used to work for Vice.
00:37:03.000He was one of the original reporters for Vice.
00:37:08.000And he made this documentary all about Gavin.
00:37:11.000And it's like focuses on the transformation from early punk rock, like liberal Gavin in the UK with like the mobs and the rockers to like the current Gavin, which is like, you know, he frames him as just like this super right-wing racist dude.
00:37:26.000And, you know, I was asking Gavin about it because he came on the podcast recently.
00:37:31.000And he's like, I've always been the same.
00:37:33.000He's like, he was explaining that his views never changed.
00:37:37.000He was saying that like vice all of a sudden was getting infused with millions of corporate dollars.
00:37:47.000But meanwhile, he was like the whole soul of vice.
00:37:50.000Like if there was no Gavin, there was no vice.
00:37:53.000Like all the controversial do's and don'ts shit and like all those controversial articles about like trans and trans shit early in like the early 2000s that he was doing was funny.
00:38:03.000And like culture didn't look at it the way it looks at it today, you know?
00:38:06.000Well, he was being attacked for things that are like openly discussed today, like the dangers of trans ideology and that these are just men.
00:38:14.000And a lot of these men are doing it because they're perverts.
00:38:53.000But the university now has to apologize to all the women that were forced to compete with him and say they fucked up and never do it again, and not allow biological men to compete with women, which is like it should be, that should be a left-wing perspective.
00:39:10.000Not that you shouldn't be able to be trans.
00:39:12.000Of course, you should be able to do whatever you want.
00:39:14.000I'm for you doing whatever you want if you don't hurt other people.
00:39:17.000If you really believe you're a woman, and look, if you can get fake tits and you can get fake lips and you can get a dick enlargement and like, do whatever you want to do.
00:39:29.000But when you're competing with women, you are essentially victimizing these women.
00:39:34.000You're forcing these women to compete with men who've been through puberty and in this case still have a functional penis, like, which is fucking bananas.
00:39:43.000And just because you think you're a woman, physically, we know there's a difference.
00:39:47.000I didn't know it was a giant problem until there was that fighter, Fallon Fox, who had competed twice against women without letting them know that this person was a biological male for 30 years, fathered a child, the whole deal.
00:40:21.000Like the left has no problem with a mentally ill man beating the shit out of women, falsely claiming that they're not even allowing these women to know.
00:40:32.000These women think they're going to go compete in a low-level MMA fight.
00:40:46.000You know, it's like, that's when I would realize, like, oh, this is just a cult.
00:40:50.000This isn't the left that I grew up with.
00:40:52.000You know, I grew up with parents that were hippies.
00:40:55.000And so like my whole life I was left-wing.
00:40:57.000I felt like that was the only way to be.
00:40:59.000But when you see the left allowing this bizarre loophole where perverts can pretend to be women, compete with women, fight with women, beat them up, be in their locker rooms, walk around naked with their dick hanging out.
00:41:43.000But like another thing Gavin was pointing out, he showed me this New York Times, or not New York Times, this Time magazine cover from like a couple months ago.
00:41:50.000And it was all about how tomboys are going extinct.
00:42:11.000But it was this poor person who decided they wanted a P standing up.
00:42:15.000That was all they wanted from this fake dick.
00:42:16.000So they have these enormous scars on their leg where they take a giant chunk of flesh out of your thigh and roll it up and make a penis out of it.
00:42:25.000And they had to do it to both legs for some reason.
00:42:27.000Maybe one of them didn't work real well.
00:42:33.000You know, it's fucking insane because a lot of these people, unfortunately, are autistic.
00:42:39.000And then there's this other factor when you give them testosterone, it does alleviate anxiety because all of a sudden, you know, you have this new hormone in abundance in your system.
00:43:15.000Like, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to do it.
00:43:17.000If you want to do it, if you're a woman and you want to take testosterone and be a man or be more manly, I feel like I don't know if it's the best decision for you, but I'm not you.
00:43:41.000That's crazy because you leave the loophole for perverts.
00:43:46.000There could be a lot of them that legitimately trans people that feel like they are in the wrong body and they want to live their life as a woman.
00:43:55.000And when they live their life as a woman, they feel healthier.
00:44:01.000And if you don't have a way of determining who is just a pervert who just wants to hang out in the women's locker room and show everybody his dick, and who is a legitimate person with gender dysphoria.
00:44:12.000And that's the other thing that Tucker had a really good point about this.
00:44:16.000He said if someone has anorexia, you don't tell them, yeah, you're fat.
00:45:06.000That's why Jolly West was fascinated with trying all these MK Ultra techniques and different compounds on people's brains because human people can be manipulated very easily, shockingly easily.
00:45:26.000And when an ideology forms, they step in line And they follow that ideology verbatim to the line.
00:45:35.000They'll repeat the things that they're supposed to say to the line because they think that's what they're supposed to do in order to be in the good graces of this community that they find themselves in.
00:46:28.000And he's young, and he's energetic, and he's saying all the right things for all these kids that are in the streets that are protesting, you know, that think they want to make the world a better place, which, hey, I would have been doing it with you if I was 20.
00:46:56.000But if you're saying, like, wear scarves over your head and being forced to do what the Iranian government wants you to do and live like they live over there, no, they don't live free.
00:47:05.000Like, they assassinated the fucking Olympic gold medalist in Russia, in wrestling, rather, in Iran, because he was protesting against the government.
00:47:14.000They'll take national heroes and kill them openly.
00:48:20.000They installed the Shah and turned it into an Islamic dictatorship, but they had access to the oil.
00:48:25.000So the CIA and the British government and everybody conspired to get rid of this democratically elected guy because Iran at the time was like, women were wearing shorts or skirts rather, walking down the street.
00:48:48.000It says, Iranian prime minister Mohammad Mossadegh was removed from power in a coup organized and financed by British and U.S. governments.
00:48:57.000The Shah quickly returned to take power and signed off over 40% of Iran's oil fields to U.S. companies.
00:49:58.000President Harry Truman rejected the idea, but when Dwight Eisenhower took over the White House, he ordered the CIA to embark on one of its first covert operations against a foreign government.
00:50:15.000But the United States government, especially the intelligence agencies in the days before they assassinated Kennedy, they were doing all kinds of wild shit.
00:51:15.000The idea was you were trying to be a good Muslim, a pure Muslim.
00:51:20.000You were trying to avoid impure thoughts, no alcohol, all these different things.
00:51:25.000And they twisted that around with jihadists through the CIA and Osama bin Laden and the Mujahideen to fight off the Soviet Union when the Soviet Union occupied Afghanistan.
00:52:20.000They did a lot of mind fucking to those people, and they put them on a war that they couldn't win again to try to do the same thing that they were doing with the rocket program, with everything else.
00:52:30.000They were trying to outspend the Soviets.
00:52:34.000That part of the world is just like, how much of it has to do with the fact that we've been occupying that part of the world for so long and like going out there, killing all the bad guys, and then the kids seeing their families being slaughtered.
00:52:50.000And then like, okay, we're going to eliminate terrorism.
00:53:57.000Yeah, what's the favorite Bill Hicks joke, at least I'm not like a historian on Bill Hicks, but the one where he's talking about the sock puppets?
00:54:04.000He's like, yeah, I like this guy on the right.
00:54:30.000You know, because he was saying these things when no one even knew what he was saying, you know, and he was putting it into comedy.
00:54:38.000You know, like people then were not nearly as aware of the manipulation of money in power.
00:54:45.000They really thought, a lot of people thought, that the will of the people, you know, the president, we got to get a good president in there that's looking out for us.
00:54:52.000And they didn't really understand that it's all being bought and paid by special interest groups, large corporations, huge donors.
00:54:58.000And that when the guy gets in there, he's just representing the same thing no matter what.
00:55:03.000The amount of reading and insight and learning that that guy was, a lot of those dudes were able to do back then pre-internet is astonishing.
00:55:11.000And to be able to like internalize and process those ideas and rework them with draft after draft and refine it into like the most perfect way to communicate it to people to where it lands, you know, it's just, it's fucking crazy.
00:55:24.000And in today's day and age, it's almost like you would think it would be easier with all of the access to information, but it seems like it might even be harder because there's just too much information.
00:55:33.000Like last night, listening to you talk was fucking incredible, dude.
00:55:36.000Like listening to how you were at the end doing the Q ⁇ A with the crowd, you're like, ah, I ran out of jokes.
00:55:42.000And like you were just on another gear, dude.
00:55:46.000It's like you're so high octane and you're so like up to speed with everything that's happening around the world at all times.
00:55:53.000It's it's mind-blowing to me how you're able to do this stuff, how you're able to stay up and do comedy late, do podcasts every day and be like up to speed with all the news and like have like thought out, like thought through a lot of these things that just happened yesterday.
00:56:23.000You know, and have opinions on things.
00:56:24.000And then the tricky thing is taking those opinions and trying to make them funny, you know, trying to like put it in a way that's going to be hilarious on stage.
00:56:33.000What do you think about this Diddy thing that just happened this morning?
00:57:54.000I want to beat up their dad, but other than that, I don't really give a fuck if there's like 18 to 19 year olds that are doing this stuff as long as they're not being like actually like physically raped.
00:58:03.000But I mean, it seems like what's going on is just like this weird cultish thing where they slowly get creep closer and closer and closer to this thing.
00:59:21.000If he really did have really wealthy, high-profile people at his parties, which we know he did, Diddy prosecutors abandoned multiple allegations against rapper days before trials end.
00:59:32.000Hey, he says, hey, remember I called it?
01:01:08.000Was reviewing tens of thousands of videos the wealthy financier with children or child porn.
01:01:16.000The comment made to reporters of the White House days after a similar remark to a stranger with a hidden camera raised the stakes for President Donald Trump's administration to prove it has in its possession previously unseen compelling documents or just Bombay Ran.
01:01:33.000Yeah, it seems crazy that we're just like it.
01:01:37.000Like you would, I would think just Trump's demeanor, his MO towards other countries, like if we're the ones funding them, giving them all this money and they're trying to fight a war, like typically he would be putting his boot on their neck, like, listen, you motherfucker, like he's talking shit, right?
01:01:52.000Like you have to do what I want you to do.
01:01:54.000And it just seems like, and now I think it just came out a couple days ago that they're trying to prosecute Netanyahu, right?
01:02:05.000And then Trump's helping with it, I think, trying to help him, Netanyahu, and that, and that whole rigmarole.
01:02:11.000But they're trying to try him while he's in office.
01:02:30.000Okay, here it says, during a Fox News channel interview in February, Bondi suggested an alleged Epstein client list was sitting on her desk.
01:03:52.000The lady got hit by a car, one of the witnesses.
01:03:53.000Yeah, one of the Jeffrey Epstein witnesses.
01:03:55.000And then apparently she had like a husband who was abusing her.
01:03:58.000And, you know, people like to, it's just like people like to use this stuff as like a political football to like argue for whatever they believe in.
01:04:08.000And also, when you get rich, powerful people.
01:04:11.000So here's the thing that happens with rich, powerful people.
01:04:38.000And so you have these guys, like a Jeffrey Epstein type guy, who works with the elite of the elite clientele.
01:04:44.000It's all movie stars, big-time politicians, world leaders, scientists, Nobel Prize winners, and they all meet together and have fascinating conversations and cocktails, and there's beautiful girls everywhere.
01:06:57.000Look, he's the only one on the Epstein files.
01:06:59.000Of course, we know he's a pervert, all this stuff.
01:07:01.000But like, and then you have, so the funny thing is, both sides will use their little batch of evidence to support their idea and ignore the opposite, right?
01:07:11.000So like the lady, the girl we were just talking about, Virginia, she was literally on video saying that all this shit about Bill Clinton on the jet, going to the island, hanging out with Trump and all this stuff.
01:07:27.000And the right-wing people, like people I know, my parents and like older folks I know in Florida will say, you know, she came out.
01:07:36.000Thank you for exposing Bill Clinton for being a pedo and doing all this stuff.
01:07:42.000And Virginia Gouffre, after this happened, she's like, you guys didn't listen to the whole fucking tape.
01:07:47.000She's like, I was telling you that Trump was at the penthouse three days a week and visiting him, but you guys don't want to hear that.
01:07:54.000And it's like, you know, it's just this weird thing.
01:07:57.000Like if you do the math, there's got to be, it's got to be so many high-level, powerful people that are somehow compromised.
01:08:05.000And do I think, do I think like Clinton and these guys are pedoes?
01:08:11.000But if you were Jeffrey Epstein, you would, I think it's super plausible to assume that he would try to trick them with like a girl who looks old, right?
01:08:23.000Who is possibly like on the borderline of being 18.
01:08:27.000And you say, oh yeah, this girl, she's 18, 19, 20, whatever.
01:08:29.000Meanwhile, she's like 17 and they had no idea and they have video footage.
01:08:33.000And in like a court of law, if I'm the judge, I'm going to let them like, of course, they fucking lied to him.
01:08:39.000And this is not like some young girl, obviously.
01:10:02.000And then there was the sheriff that had arrested him, said that I was told he was intelligence.
01:10:06.000And I mean, you got to think, man, if a guy like that is running these kind of parties with all these rich and powerful people, how many different worldwide decisions can be manipulated because of these people and the compromises you have on them?
01:10:26.000It's really a brilliant thing to do from an intelligence perspective.
01:10:33.000And like this, the way that the world is shaping out now and this like rise of Jew hate online is, and I think a lot of it's bots, you know, I think, I think it's coming from every angle.
01:10:46.000You know, I think it's probably a lot of, a lot of propaganda and bots coming from Iran, coming from Israel, Saudi, who knows where it's all coming from.
01:10:55.000It's just such a confusing crock of shit on the internet.
01:10:58.000But like, you know, on one hand, they were able to pull off some incredible fucking operations.
01:11:07.000And, you know, on the other hand, we get mad.
01:11:10.000Now that it gets exposed, we get mad that they have their hooks in us and the people that are in power, whatever the politicians are, the puppets, just like bend the knee to whatever they're doing.
01:11:20.000And it gets exposed when people like Tucker did that interview with Ted Cruz and he had him on his heels the whole time.
01:11:30.000That was a fucking biblical fucking interview with Ted Cruz.
01:11:35.000And that really like pulled the mask off because like if that guy's, if that guy is explaining his, his position on Israel being in Congress, and that's his number one thing that made him want to be a Congressman, it's like, what are all these other people doing then?
01:11:50.000Like, if there's all this money, and you can see the receipts, how much money they're being given by these lobbies.
01:14:15.000Ran two parallel experiments with Facebook and Instagram as a perspective focal pattern, platform rather.
01:14:21.000For each focal platform, Meta grew a stratified random sample of users who were in the U.S. who were age 18 or older, had logged in at least once a month, or at least once in the past month.
01:14:33.000From August 31st to September 12th, Meta plays survey invitations.
01:14:38.000At the top of these users' focal platform news feeds, study explains, on Facebook, a total of 10.6 million users were invited to the study.
01:14:46.000673,388 clicked the invitation, and 43,249 were willing to deactivate, consented to participate, and completed the enrollment survey.
01:14:57.000Of these, 19,857 completed the baseline survey, could be linked to the platform data, and had at least 15 minutes of baseline use per day.
01:15:10.000Modest but meaningful emotional gains.
01:15:12.000Findings were statistically significant, although modest in scale.
01:15:16.000Facebook deactivation led, well, Facebook is like a bunch of old people complaining about their neighborhood, led to a 0.060 standard deviation improvement.
01:15:26.000While Instagram deactivation yielded a 0.041 improvement, these gains represent approximately 15 to 22% of the benefits typically seen with established psychological interventions such as cognitive behavior therapy or mindfulness-based interventions.
01:15:54.000Adults over 35 saw the most substantial benefit from leaving Facebook, whereas young women under 25 experienced the most emotional uplift from an Instagram break.
01:16:03.000Women are getting fucked by that because they're constantly comparing themselves to girls that are digitally altered and using filters and fucks through your self-esteem.
01:16:13.000I just think overall, it's not good for us.
01:16:16.000And there's a large percentage of our society is addicted to it.
01:16:26.000Like your phone and the iPad and all this stuff is like they're dopamine slot machines.
01:16:30.000And the way they fuck up your circadian rhythm, like when you're when you're laying in bed at night scrolling and how that blue light in the phone just like pumps your brain full of energy and you can't put it down.
01:16:43.000Like every scroll is like another hit of the crackpipe, you know?
01:17:31.000And that's why I like these like these new tech technical computers and these different apps that are coming out that are like trying to be anti-technology.
01:17:41.000They're trying to make healthier computers and healthier phones.
01:20:00.000And so what was the thought process about switching to something like this?
01:20:04.000Because like, so I got introduced to those guys when I started learning about all this circadian rhythm stuff and how all these devices hijack your dopamine system and all this stuff.
01:20:16.000And there's like, hey, there's these guys that they're working on this new technology that's like anti big tech mind control, all the apps and everything like that with all the colors and all the, you know, everything that just like fucks with your brain and your eyes.
01:20:46.000I could sit outside because I like to, I like to go outside like first thing in the morning when the sun's rising and spend at least like two or three hours like during the beginning of the day because I feel it just like charges me up for the day.
01:20:57.000I feel better when I'm outside, especially in Florida.
01:21:28.000Yeah, this thing's all black and white.
01:21:30.000And with that amber backlight that you can throw on at night if you're like inside or something like that.
01:21:35.000And so how much of a change has it had in your routine because of this thing?
01:21:39.000It's great because if I'm reading shit, which I typically do in the morning and at night, I don't stay up all night.
01:21:46.000It encourages me to go outside more because typically when I'm trying to absorb stuff or listen to podcasts or make notes or read books, I can do it on that.
01:23:29.000I don't think the innovation of all this new technology now that it's like exponentially taking off with AI is going to lead us to a good place, man.
01:23:37.000I think that, you know, I've had philosophers and people explain to me how the advancement of the technological human mind and the analytical mind has equally equated with the atrophy of the psychic mind.
01:23:54.000And when you listen to people like Paul Rosalie talking about spending a lot of time in the Amazon and like going through the jungle, how it like awakens these deeper senses that you have inside of us.
01:24:04.000And like it makes me wonder, like 5,000 years ago, before we had the ability to offload our memories onto phones and computers and before we even had the fucking written word and were able to make notes and stuff, we probably had like way better memory.
01:24:25.000We possibly likely had like A telepathic way of communicating back then, like way, way long ago, before we had, like, before we started letting technology take over for what we do, like, even for our like mundane tasks now, which has reached the pinnacle of LLMs, like telling us, telling us, like, how to fucking write an email.
01:24:46.000Right, well, we for sure don't remember phone numbers anymore.
01:24:49.000And when I was a kid, I kept like 15 phone numbers in my head.
01:25:14.000I mean, there was a study recently on ChatGPT users and how less there how see if you can find it.
01:25:23.000It was a study on young people and ubiquitous use of ChatGPT, like how many of them are using it and how much effect it has on their ability to form their own thoughts and see through things.
01:25:34.000They're just relying on this thing to answer the questions for them without pondering the question themselves and actually learning things.
01:25:53.000Study divided 54 subjects, 18 to 39-year-olds from the Boston area, into three groups and asked them to write several SAT essays using OpenAI's ChatGPT, Google search engine, and nothing at all, respectively.
01:26:06.000Researchers used an EEG to record the writer's brain activity across 32 regions and found that of the three groups, ChatGPT users had the lowest brain engagement and consistently underperformed at neuro, linguistic, and behavioral levels.
01:26:21.000Over the course of several months, ChatGPT users got lazier with each subsequent essay, often resorting to copy and paste by the end of the study.
01:27:25.000Like, the way God creates us, he instills us with this insatiable need for technological innovation until ultimately, if they don't blow themselves up, they achieve artificial intelligence, which then becomes sentient, which then makes better and better versions of itself.
01:27:39.000And as you scale out, what's the ultimate version of that?
01:28:19.000Okay, here's Webb Telescope uncovers secrets of dark matter.
01:28:23.000Yeah, that's one of them, but I'll show you what this is.
01:28:27.000Because what this is is essentially that just the galaxies that they've shown, it makes up for the background micro or whatever the microwave radiation is that they associated with the Big Bang.
01:28:51.000Yeah, no, I saw the Twitter post and there's people going after each other, like rabid cats and dogs about it, whether it was real or whether it was fake.
01:29:00.000Well, of course people are going back and forth about it, but essentially what they're saying is this kind of it cancels out the idea of the Big Bang.
01:29:09.000And Penrose believed that it was a consistent cycle.
01:29:12.000Penrose believes it goes, you know, Big Bang to expansion of the universe to compression to Big Bang with this constant cycle, never ending.
01:29:20.000It's not that the universe was formed at one period of time.
01:29:24.000It's like this constant state of happening.
01:29:28.000Which is that any more crazy than the universe happening at one time out of nothing?
01:29:34.000No, I mean, it's kind of, it's all crazy.
01:29:38.000Just the idea that it's 13 billion light years old or 13.7 or 22, is 22 even more crazier?
01:29:50.000A new paper shows that the cosmic microwave background radiation can be explained entirely by the energy of recently discovered early mature galaxies.
01:29:59.000Massive galaxies the James Webb Space Telescope discovered while crushing, or excuse me, discovered which crushed the existing models of galaxy formation because they formed much earlier than astrophysicists thought possible.
01:30:13.000But now these EMGs turn out to account for the entire energy density of the cosmic microwave background radiation, which was believed to be a snapshot of the first light emitted after the Big Bang when the universe was 379,000 years old.
01:30:29.000The variations in the CMB were believed to be relics of quantum fluctuations in the dense plasma of the Big Bang.
01:30:37.000If these new findings are accepted and there's no reason not to accept them, then all the following flagship findings of cosmology are thrown into question.
01:30:46.000Big Bang theory, foundational cosmological model undermined, cosmic inflation, losses, observation, loses rather, observational justification, ACDM model, I don't know what that is, key parameters become unreliable.
01:31:01.000So all this stuff, dark energy inferred from the CMB may be mischaracterized, dark matter density, current estimates may be invalid.
01:31:11.000Age of the universe must be recalculated.
01:31:17.000And I'm sure the people that have been preaching or that have been rather talking and teaching people about the Big Bang and writing books, they're going to fight back tooth and nail because they don't want to be wrong.
01:31:37.000This post claims CMB can be explained entirely by EMGs, implying ability, not probability, that EMGs turn out to account for the entire energy of the CMB radiation.
01:31:49.000But the paper says EMGs may account for anywhere between 1.4% and 100%.
01:31:53.000So they might account for 100%, but they do account for...
01:32:51.000Like they were, I forget who it was, but they were observing galaxies and they were looking at the spin rate of the galaxies and they found out that the center of the galaxy, it should be spinning faster than the outer rim of it, right?
01:33:02.000But they found out that the spin rate is identical, which means that what they theorized is that dark matter, the mass of the dark matter around the galaxy has lots of mass and it's flattening the spin rate of the galaxies.
01:33:15.000Which is interesting because like there's this, have you ever heard of this dude named Rolf Landauer?
01:33:32.000So, and his theory was that like every single hard drive server farm around the world right now, and if you weighed it, if we had measuring equipment that was sensitive enough and you could find the difference, he thinks that all the data stored would be like a kilogram or less right now.
01:33:48.000But the rate of data increase that we accumulate each year right now is like 25%, not equating for exponential growth, the technological singularity and how that's going to ramp up.
01:33:59.000So somebody did the math there and said, it was, no, it was Jason Giorgiani who did the math on this.
01:34:05.000And he said, if you just keep the rate flat at 25% per year of data increase across the globe, in 340 years, we are going to have the mass of the moon on the surface of the earth in data stored on hard drives.
01:34:25.000So like, and the way he like lays this all out, I'll try to do my best, is that if you look at the laws of thermodynamics, like the two laws, one that energy can never be created or destroyed, and the other one, like entropy always increases over time.
01:35:07.000If computers are bound by the laws of entropy and hard drives are bound by the laws of entropy, that means when a computer is blank, it's very low entropy because it's all ones or it's all zeros.
01:35:19.000When you add data, when you add a podcast to it, it goes one zero, one, zero, one, zero.
01:35:23.000Just from a pure physical perspective, it's high entropy.
01:35:29.000So what happens when you erase that hard drive?
01:35:33.000You have to, the energy has to go, has to leave.
01:35:36.000If it's mass on the hard drive, theoretically, if this guy's right, if Rolf Landauer is right, that data on the hard drive is mass, when you erase that, it has to go to energy outside of the hard drive, right?
01:35:49.000So he says, but if you crack open a hard drive, you can't see that mass, right?
01:36:07.000So if mass is the same thing as information stored on a hard drive, that would mean not only is mass and energy interchangeable, but mass, energy, and information are interchangeable.
01:36:54.000That exists because you're observing it.
01:36:56.000Yeah, the only reason consciousness is fundamental to an information processing system.
01:37:02.000So instead of building up to, like what physicists, what people try to do is build up to consciousness from dead atoms, protons and neutrons, right?
01:37:10.000How do you get to consciousness from that?
01:37:12.000But if you think of this as like a computational cloud of ones and zeros and mass does equal information, well, that just means that our consciousness is a way to interface and give this simulation meaning.
01:37:26.000And funny enough, that theory really Reconciles well with shit like parapsychology and like Rupert Sheldrake's morphic resonance, like when you solve one problem in one part of the world and then like somebody breaks a world record in this country and then five years, you know, a year later, five other people hit that same world record.
01:37:46.000It's like conserving energy, the processing system conserving energy.
01:37:50.000There's a guy, there's a scientist that he found computational code.
01:39:15.000Oh, I just write it right from there, I guess.
01:39:17.000Explored mathematical structure of string theory specifically in the context of supersymmetry and has found what he describes as error-correcting codes embedded within the equations.
01:39:25.000These codes are mathematical objects similar to those used in computer science for error detection and correction, such as in data transmission.
01:39:32.000While these findings are intriguing, it's important to note that they are not literal computer code, but rather mathematical structures that share similarities with coding theory.
01:39:43.000Yeah, it's important to learn that, but that's fucking crazy.
01:39:48.000But James Gates, as of, I think, two years ago, wasn't willing to come on the podcast and talk about it.
01:39:53.000Yeah, if I had a dollar for every person who said they wouldn't come on my podcast because it's too pseudo-scientific, I would have like $5.
01:40:01.000Why not come on and illuminate people?
01:40:03.000Yeah, I had this, I don't wanna say who she is, but this lady who had this amazing book on the Greek weapons and poisons that they used to use for war.
01:40:13.000They used to drop scorpions over, Like they used to light pigs on fire and send them towards elephants to try to get the elephants to run away and throw bags of scorpions on people.
01:40:22.000And I'm like, this fucking book is amazing.
01:40:40.000You do a great job of having both sides in, which I think is really cool.
01:40:43.000You have the crazy fringe people who are educated, self-educated, but are very smart in a certain way.
01:40:49.000And then other people who have the academic credentials to sort of like be a sounding board for that and to see who's really full of shit.
01:40:57.000Yeah, you have to have all because there are some people that are, they're self-taught.
01:41:02.000They've essentially just read shit tons of books and they're brilliant people.
01:41:05.000And just because they're not classically educated, it doesn't mean they're incorrect.
01:41:09.000And there's only one way to find that out.
01:41:11.000Guys like Randall Carlson, he's a builder, okay?
01:41:13.000But the knowledge that he has about the impact theory, the Younger Dryas impact theory, and what probably ended the ice age and shaped a great part of North America and how you could see it from space.
01:41:27.000And you can see when they look at the satellite imagery, it literally looks like things have been washed away.
01:43:31.000How dare you say that the dynastic Egyptians weren't able to create these vases?
01:43:35.000I'm like, and I, you know, I was like proposing other theories that like, you know, Chris Dunn's, Jeffrey Drum's theories and wanted absolutely nothing to do with it.
01:43:48.000If Christopher Dunn had been teaching this in the 1800s and people had followed those theories and built upon them and this was academic, like in universities, this was Accepted, and this was what they were teaching, and they were studying this, then he would be saying that.
01:44:05.000There's ample evidence that he's got a good point.
01:44:08.000That Christopher Dunn, the model that he uses when he's describing how he thinks that the Great Pyramid of Giza was a power plant, is fascinating.
01:44:17.000The number, when he's talking about the ratios that you would need for the width of the walls, the surfaces, the way the things are made, they would all work.
01:44:57.000And occasionally one of those slams into the earth.
01:45:00.000And when that stuff happens, we're fucked.
01:45:03.000And it's super likely that that happened multiple times during human history.
01:45:08.000And it's super likely that that's why there's all these structures that nobody can explain that are somehow or another predate modern civilization.
01:45:30.000I mean, Jimmy Corsetti's been talking about this a lot.
01:45:32.000And I understand where they're coming from.
01:45:36.000I can see their point of view from the academics.
01:45:38.000Not that I would act like them or condone the way they act, but when you spend your life, Flint, for example, I think his parents were archaeologists.
01:45:45.000They named him Flint because of archaeology.
01:45:47.000And you spent your whole life mucking through these different places, excavating shit, digging up rocks or whatever he was doing, and no one ever paid attention to you.
01:45:57.000And then you have Graham Hancock come in, who is like personally fascinated by these things and dedicating his life to writing and researching on his own, but not accredited academically.
01:46:08.000You can see like how those guys would, how those academic guys would be like super salty of somebody like him.
01:47:03.000A previous civilization existed in the same place, fascinating discoveries, figured out how to do agriculture, figured out how to make grids and cities and make these incredible stone structures that are cosmologically connected somehow.
01:47:29.000I think there's probably so much shit that people were able to do in antiquity and way before that that would seem like magic to us today.
01:47:36.000Like kind of like getting back to what we were talking about with our senses that we don't really have today that probably have atrophied over millennia.
01:47:43.000Like your fart theory, which is amazing.
01:47:59.000So like, and so like dogs, dogs and cats, when they go into weird houses and they notice like some sort of weird energy, you know, people describe energy in a house, like this, this feels off.
01:48:11.000Like, is there something that really is there that we just don't have the organs anymore to detect?
01:48:16.000Or something in our brain that has atrophied over thousands of years that have stopped us being able to detect this stuff?
01:48:22.000Well, think about how birds they can figure out a way to travel like super accurately through the sky, but drawn by the magnetic force of the Earth.
01:48:59.000And, you know, one of the things that I've been like really interested in lately is this, I mean, people talk about this ability to like download information like in the UFO world.
01:49:13.000You know, like people talk about, oh, I got this from a download or something like that.
01:49:20.000But like for me, like that connected, when I first heard about people talking about that, I always thought that that was like the muse, you know, like you have this sort of antenna in your head that connects you to creativity and gives you the ability to just create shit out of thin air, you know?
01:49:40.000And I feel like over with people I've observed over my lifetime, I feel like that peaks at an early age, right?
01:49:50.000Before you get older and before you start the burden of the responsibilities of life and all these mundane things in your life start to compile on and you trade your dreams for securities, that spark starts to go away, you know?
01:50:05.000And like that could easily be described as something magical if it was way more powerful thousands of years ago.
01:50:12.000Like I really noticed this the other day.
01:50:16.000So I was, the other day I was hanging out with Kirk, the lead guitarist for Metallica.
01:50:20.000And he was, for some reason, I don't know why, but he likes my show.
01:50:32.000The dude's like, you know, he's in his 60s, like early 60s, and he's fucking obsessed with all of these topics that you cover, I cover, a lot of people cover.
01:50:42.000And he's like, at the same time, he's, the dude has like got this crazy spark where he's so inspired to do shit and like still creating new music and like coming up with new riffs and wanting to do more things where like I've never met a dude like that who's had so much success,
01:51:05.000toured everywhere for the last 40 years, being the number one metal band in the world, basically, and still like wanting to learn stuff.
01:51:16.000The dude is trying to translate ancient Greek music for his guitar and trying to figure out how to play this stuff.
01:53:50.000And the whole time, it's like synchronized together.
01:53:54.000And the whole time it's doing it, it's like a method for showing you more things.
01:53:59.000And as you go through it with the music, there's something comforting in the pattern of the music and the way it dances to the music that allows you to relax and unveils more and more of itself.
01:54:21.000It's probably, they were probably, that music probably synchronized with the trips when they were doing the Illusion Mysteries and stuff.
01:54:29.000When I went to their concert in Tampa the other day, and I was walking, it made me regret not going to more concerts when I was younger, but being in that stadium, the Buck Stadium, where there was 90,000 people, every seat in that arena was full.
01:54:42.000And you hear, don't do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do.
01:55:10.000Dude, being there with 90,000 people, the light, the thundering electric guitars, and the fire, the pyrotechnics, and all those people like focusing, like all 90,000 people, every atom in their body is vibrating at the same frequency.
01:55:28.000And it just like, that is, it's like magic that penetrates every fiber of your being.
01:56:25.000When they were turning everything Schedule I to try to stop the anti-war movement and the civil rights movement, that's the exact same thing.
01:56:31.000Like governments, when they get to a certain position of power, they're not representing the people anymore.
01:56:37.000Now they're the fucking jack-booted thugs that tell you what you can and can't do based on how inconvenient it is for you to be doing that for them running things.
01:57:01.000I had this dude on my show, speaking of the academic, the strife between the academics and the self-taught online people, influencers, whatever you want to call them.
01:57:10.000This dude was, he was kicked out of his university for, first of all, he wrote a dissertation on ancient pharmacy, the Roman pharmacy and Greek pharmacy.
01:57:22.000And it was a dissertation based on this guy named Galen, who was like the surgeon general of ancient Rome.
01:57:27.000And he had a chapter in his dissertation, his PhD dissertation, about recreational drugs in Rome.
01:57:33.000And the head of the department reviewed his dissertation and said, everything looks great.
01:57:38.000Delete the section on recreational drugs in ancient Rome.
01:57:48.000He deleted it and then submitted it, got his PhD, and then wrote a book based on that part of the dissertation that he left out, which the book was called The Chemical Muse.
01:57:57.000And I learned about this from Hamilton Morris.
01:58:20.000So like people were constantly using drugs.
01:58:25.000And there was a law in ancient Rome that he said there was only one law when it came to using drugs.
01:58:29.000And that was that you were not allowed to kill people with drugs.
01:58:34.000You were not allowed to murder people, which is why Marcus Aurelius was using this drug compound called a Theriac.
01:58:43.000And the Theriac was a concoction of like 11 different North African vipers, their flesh and their venom, combined with opium and all kinds of like bodily fluids.
01:58:54.000And he was using this as like a performance-enhancing drug.
01:59:34.000And so Galen, the physician, the surgeon general of the Roman Empire under Marcus Aurelius and Nero, I think, basically equates to 10% of all the Greek literature from antiquity.
01:59:54.000And this dude that wrote this dissertation, based it all off Galen, is talking about all these drug compounds that are used in all the literature.
02:00:03.000So what he does is he looks at all the ancient literature from Homer to, you know, like 800, to like the time that Beowulf was written, basically, AD.
02:00:17.000And he's like finding all of this evidence of crazy drug use.
02:00:25.000And he has this crazy theory also that, I don't know if it's crazy.
02:01:11.000Because the mushrooms would come out of the ground, and they thought the rain was God coming on the earth, and that's where, you know, that's what gave life to the earth.
02:01:19.000And then they would take these mushrooms and see God.
02:02:19.000It was, well, so to be clear, in antiquity, if you look it up on the thesaurus, the actual like Greek thesaurus, it's called the TLG, and you look up the word Christ, there's over 200,000 or more uses of the word Christ.
02:02:35.000And there's like 350 times where it's used in the context of drugs before Jesus Christ is ever written about.
02:02:54.000Like there's a guy who like Christed himself in fucking cow shit.
02:02:58.000There's people who are Christing ships with plaster to make them more waterproof.
02:03:04.000But there's a vast majority of literature, including Galen, who writes about Christing using drugs.
02:03:11.000And he's coming up with this controversial theory, which is, you know, super fucking controversial, that Christ was like, if you think of the word Christ, a person can be a Christer, like a Christ.
02:04:38.000What evidence did he have that Satan was inside of you?
02:04:41.000Because I like to consume drugs recreationally.
02:04:44.000And I was telling him, if Satan is drugs, if I can smoke marijuana and it's prescribed by a doctor, is it still Satan?
02:04:50.000He goes, no, don't play those games with me.
02:04:52.000And I'm like, well, how come every time I get really, really fucking bombed, I think about things like spending more times with my kids and things like good things?
02:05:02.000And he's like, don't try to patronize me.
02:05:47.000If you're riddled with anxiety and you have a hard time controlling that anxiety in your mind and you take a high dose of marijuana, you could freak out.
02:05:57.000Because I think there's people that have a tendency towards schizophrenia anyway, and then a large dose of marijuana tends to give them psychotic breaks.
02:06:08.000So this is like important that if you're a person who thinks that marijuana is overall net positive, which I do, it's important to talk about the negatives, just like everything else.
02:06:49.000Like, like, this was the only dude I could get to agree to come sit with him because this guy had a YouTube channel.
02:06:54.000He wanted to promote himself and all this stuff.
02:06:55.000But like a lot of the academics, I talked to a lot of Harvard philologists to try to come debate this guy.
02:07:00.000And like the philologists, like there's a difference between a linguist, which I think Mark Olegar was and a philologist, where the linguists look at the actual complexities of the text itself and the language.
02:07:12.000But the philologists, what they do is they're looking for context.
02:07:14.000So what they do is they take words and they try to figure out what these specific words meant in certain time periods.
02:07:22.000So they take a word, take their time machine back, let's take it back to 200 BC, 100 BC, whatever it is.
02:07:30.000And they say, okay, let's just use the example of the word Rio, Christ.
02:07:34.000Let's look at all of the corpus of all the fucking literature that existed in the Library of Alexandria.
02:07:40.000There was ancient comedy, ancient play.
02:08:40.000I've talked to many of them on the phone, and a lot of them say they don't want to give him, I won't name the people, but one of them said that they just don't want to give him the platform or the credibility of being in the same room.
02:08:53.000Other people say that it would just take too much time for them to prep for it.
02:09:06.000I just keep falling deeper and deeper into this rabbit hole of all this crazy ancient Greek shit.
02:09:11.000And like, you know, he's talking about ancient vaccines that they were using.
02:09:15.000Like similar to what we're talking about with the theriac, he says that there's text that talks about cutting kids, cutting children, soaking bandages and snake venoms, and wrapping the cut with a snake venom so that the young person would create antibodies because they have more robust immune systems because they're younger.
02:09:34.000And they would use the kid's bodily fluid as fucking vaccines to snake bites.
02:10:14.000And like he connects this all to Jesus in this elaborate way, where there's Mark 14:53, where Jesus is caught in the Garden of Gethsemane with the naked boy, right?
02:10:25.000And then there's a scene of the young boy running away naked, right?
02:10:29.000When the Roman SWAT team pulls up on him, and then the little kid runs away.
02:10:34.000I'm not a robber, whatever the word lace dash means, means like pirate, trafficker, robber.
02:10:39.000And then they take him, and then he's on the cross the next day, and he's like screaming out, like dying of thirst in between two traffickers.
02:10:49.000And he's asking, and there's this dude, Nonus, who writes about this scene specifically in ancient Greek, and he talks about them giving him trying to give him the sponge and he's denying the sponge, right?
02:11:01.000So the sponge, Nonas, is writing about this, that the sponge is the antidotone to the dipsos, which is the antidote to the North African viper.
02:11:10.000But he's refusing to take the antidote.
02:11:12.000He's just dying because he took this death inducer at 4 a.m. in the park, in the Garden of Gethsemane.
02:11:17.000And now he's just going to let himself die on the cross.
02:11:38.000It's used all throughout Homer, Euripides, all these other authors.
02:11:41.000Like, there's, like, again, getting back to the philology stuff, the philologists, they go back in time and they look at the context of all of the literature.
02:11:50.000Not just the biblical canon, which is like a narrow lane of ancient literature, right?
02:11:55.000But they're looking at the philosophy, the legal texts, the medical texts, everything, and saying, okay, let's take this word, look where it's used in all of these different texts throughout all kinds of professions, and see what the consensus is of what it meant during that time period.
02:12:12.000And what he's claiming is that the fucking word Christ meant drugs back then.
02:13:10.000So we know today that our versions of history are deeply biased.
02:13:15.000Our versions of world events, our versions of, I mean, if the United States government could write the story about the invasion of Iraq without investigative journalists, right?
02:13:27.000It's like we don't really know what they were trying to say.
02:13:30.000It was an oral history for who knows how long before they ever wrote down the Old Testament.
02:13:36.000And it got redacted and added to over time.
02:13:38.000There's like all kinds of weird secret gospels, secret gospel of Mark that they claim that this dude, Morton Smith, came up with, which was similar to Amon's theories.
02:13:47.000But then, you know, people say, oh, that's a forgery.
02:13:50.000If the secret gospel of Mark's a forgery, he fucking knew Greek really well, and he knew the culture really well and all the cults, you know, and like.
02:13:58.000Dude, like, you know, even like the mysteries of the hospitals in ancient Rome, like the temples of Asclepius and doing all those rituals in the temples of Asclepius, using medicine and drugs simultaneously and these venoms and all this stuff is interesting to learn, you know, and especially when you compare that stuff to the biblical stuff, you know, like how much has it been changed?
02:14:28.000How much has the meaning been changed?
02:14:31.000And like the people, most of the academics who study this stuff are maybe not most of them, but a large majority, a large percentage of them, I think, that I've talked to.
02:14:43.000They're religious scholars, scholars of the Bible and Christianity, but they also subscribe to Christianity.
02:14:50.000You know, so I'm like, is that like a, it's weird that there's kind of like a built-in bias into this stuff.
02:14:56.000You kind of want this stuff to mean something.
02:15:01.000That was what was interesting about Allegro.
02:15:02.000Because John Marco Allegro was an ordained minister who, once he became a theologian, a theologist, theologian, rather, once he studied theology, he started to have agnostic thoughts.
02:15:15.000And so when he was one of the decipherers of the Dead Sea Scrolls, when he was on the committee, he was agnostic at the time.
02:15:22.000So he had already decided through his study of all these different religions that maybe he wouldn't subscribe to any of them and leave an open mind.
02:15:30.000So he was the only person on the commission that was deciphering the Dead Sea Scrolls over a period of like 14 million, or 14 years rather.
02:17:14.000I mean, we're told it's 2,500 BC for the Great Pyramid, but boy, there's a lot of people that don't agree with that, including geologists.
02:17:22.000When you get guys like Robert Schock who say like this water erosion is thousands of years of rainfall, last time you had a heavy rainfall in the Nile Valley, you're looking at 9,000 years ago.
02:17:30.000So you have thousands of years of rainfall before 9,000 years ago that's going to create this kind of erosion.
02:17:36.000And so it's hard to know because everybody wants to be right.
02:17:39.000And they all have this date that they've been talking about and writing books about and giving lectures about.
02:17:47.000They gatekeep that information until the day.
02:17:49.000They never want to have an open mind and say, perhaps there is evidence, of course, that there was a sophisticated civilization there 2,500 BC, but maybe they were a part of a very old civilization.
02:18:03.000And this is the Zeptepi thing that Zawi Hawass was totally ignorant of.
02:18:08.000And he thought it was just completely bullshit.
02:18:10.000And this is the king's list that goes back 30,000 years that they talk about and the way Egyptologists that are conventional thinkers, they think that it's mythology.
02:18:32.000And also, if there was an advanced civilization 11,800 years ago that was able to create Gobekli Tepe, which we know now to be true, what else have we not found?
02:18:49.000Or, you know, was it just that they had achieved a very high level of sophistication in technology that's very different from the path that we took?
02:18:59.000I think the path that they took involved immense stone structures, cosmology.
02:19:05.000They probably didn't have internal combustion engines.
02:19:07.000They probably had a completely different kind of technology that we wouldn't even think of because we went in this internal combustion engine, plastic, microchip, electricity.
02:19:28.000Do you think we might have cracked that somewhere?
02:19:30.000Like in some deep black programs that we could have that, they wouldn't want to unleash that on society because it could like fuck up the economic system or like collapse the world?
02:19:38.000I know Jesse Michaels believes that there is gravity technology that they were researching in the 1960s and that they had achieved some sort of breakthrough propulsion system that is probably a lot of what you see when you see these UAPs and these crafts that move in very strange ways.
02:20:03.000There's this lady, Catherine Fitz, who's the she was the head of the department of HUD under George Bush.
02:20:10.000And they brought her in after the mortgage crisis to figure out how to restabilize the economy and what the banks were doing and all this stuff.
02:20:23.000And she found that there was like when she applied her knowledge of mathematics and what's going on with the federal budget and where all the money's going, she said the most reasonable explanation, you know, there's like $21 trillion missing from the DOD the day before 9-11, Donald Rumpsfeld.
02:20:44.000There's like two to two and a half trillion dollars, whatever it was.
02:20:49.000Now that's ballooned to like $21 trillion.
02:20:51.000And she thinks that, you know, pull up the spreadsheet, see where that money went.
02:20:58.000She thinks it went to like black budget shit, like military, black military technology, like anti-gravity.
02:21:05.000And she thinks that Mr. Global, whoever that is, the bankers, the central bankers, are literally using all of that money and funneling it into black projects to create a breakaway civilization in case there's like some sort of catastrophe on Earth or something happens.
02:21:30.000She says there's a lot of money that's going into building all these underground bases, continuity of government, tunnel systems, all this stuff.
02:22:20.000How the Nazis are controlling UFOs and PSYOPs and controlling the world and, you know, playing the world like it's their fucking docudrama and recreating reality and inventing all this crazy off-world stuff and how Roswell was Soviet Union crashing stuff here.
02:22:37.000And basically it's all Nazi black budget stuff, I think is like the main point of that.
02:22:42.000Do they dismiss the idea that we're visited at all by something from somewhere else?
02:22:49.000These people that think that it's all Nazi stuff and Soviet Union stuff.
02:22:53.000I don't think that they're saying it's all that, but they're probably saying, I haven't read all his books, but I think he's saying when he wrote that book, it was probably all Nazis, no aliens.
02:23:03.000But now I'm sure his points, his views have evolved on it.
02:23:08.000It's like, you know, when you see these reports, whenever I see a story that's in the New York Times where the Pentagon is admitting we have, you know, there's been off-world crafts and all these different things, and you get these David Grush guys that are testifying about that we've recovered crashed vehicles.
02:23:25.000It's like, how much of that is a PSYOP?
02:23:30.000I don't even know if they know it's a PSYOP.
02:23:33.000But if I was the government and I was working on top secret propulsion systems, the first thing I would do is spread a bunch of fake rumors about UFOs.
02:23:47.000And then you have an explanation for why these people are seeing these things in the sky when it's really just your shit that you're flying around.
02:23:53.000But yet, if you listen to Jacques Valley and you read any of his books, he's got these stories that people were telling from the 1700s and the 1800s that mirror almost exactly the experiences that people are having today.
02:24:08.000That's where it gets weird because, okay, now you're predating any possibility of this being modern technology, you know, that is just hidden and tucked away.
02:24:19.000They couldn't have done that in the 1700s.
02:24:55.000And like, you know, there's this case, Richard Dolan came in on my show recently and he was telling me, he wrote this new book about all the underwater cases ever documented, underwater UFOs, USOs.
02:25:05.000And there's one from like the early 1700s where there was this like ship sailing across the Pacific and this giant glowing orb came out of the ocean.
02:25:34.000If you wanted to come here and observe human beings without them being able to see what's going on, that's the best place to hide because no one's going there.
02:25:42.000They don't have the capability of going there.
02:25:44.000You know, we have submarines, but I mean, what are the submarines?
02:25:47.000I mean, if the submarines see things, did they tell us?
02:25:54.000We know about the nuclear bases above ground because those guys have come out and talked about it, but like all of the nuclear submarines that are patrolling the oceans at all times, like right off of our coast, off both coasts, like if they're carrying multiple nuclear warheads, I'm sure they're seeing something or they're detecting something there.
02:26:21.000I forget where it was being recorded, but it was a video of something that was like a beam of light that shot through the screen.
02:26:30.000Like you could see it moving underwater at this insane rate of speed with no ripples, no disruption of the water, just moving through the water.
02:26:41.000And then there's these transmedium videos, these videos of these things flying.
02:26:45.000They go into the water with no splash, no nothing.
02:26:50.000Yeah, I think the best evidence that those things have been here forever is probably like ancient stories, biblical story, like aliens and like angels and demon stuff.
02:27:11.000Imagine seeing something that's floating, some geometric pattern that's hovering in the sky above your head and emitting light and trying to explain this.
02:27:19.000And then also going back and trying to remember exactly what you saw because you're probably freaking the fuck out.
02:27:27.000You really do have some sort of an encounter with some orb that's flying in the sky.
02:28:18.000And then all the people, the eyewitnesses that were there that saw the thing, and when he brings the police officer to the site of the crash, the officer starts weeping uncontrollably, recounting the story.
02:28:30.000Unless that guy's the greatest actor of all time.
02:29:17.000But if you did have some sort of like infinitely superior technology and you've had it for a long time, when do you, if ever, let the public know?
02:29:28.000Like how many, I don't know how many people know all of the secrets, right?
02:29:32.000But if there is a handful of dudes, how do you go about living your life when you're that dude and when you know like shit that can change the face of humanity forever?
02:29:41.000How do you go home to your wife and kids, right?
02:29:44.000Is it like, are you living in that show?
02:29:46.000What's the show where they go up in the elevator and it wipes their mind?
02:30:53.000After learning more about all the disinformation and all the time and money they put into just confusing people, like the Paul Benowitz story, I think he would be the perfect candidate to recruit just because of his background.
02:31:06.000Like, you know, his first wife committed suicide.
02:31:45.000You know, but he doesn't seem like a liar.
02:31:48.000And the podcast, obviously it resonates with people because I think the podcast I had with him on YouTube is the most viewed podcast that we've ever had, including Donald Trump.
02:34:06.000But there's something that I'm sure he's got.
02:34:08.000Well, the MIT thing, though, look, if you're working at Los Alamos Labs and you're working on top secret stuff for the government, it's not inconceivable that you would be educated at MIT and there wouldn't be a record of it.
02:34:18.000Especially if you're working on something that's like really devious shit.
02:34:28.000As soon as we're done, we'll wrap this up.
02:34:30.000No, I wanted to like the stuff and the stuff, like the thing that is so astonishing to me is like all of the brightest minds and unlimited money have gone to more and more ways to figure out how to kill people.
02:34:43.000Like during Operation Paperclip, during the time Bob Lazar was at Los Alamos and at S4, if he was at S4 or whatever was going on there, like and that dude John von Neumann, who was the mathematician, who was he was in,
02:35:00.000he came up with the equation to, and who, by the way, was like the most brilliant mathematical mind of our time in American history, came up with the equation of the perfect altitude to detonate Fat Man and Little Boy to kill the most people.
02:35:18.000Which is like, you're using this fucking intellect to do these kinds of things.
02:35:23.000And now there's a $21 trillion black hole in the DOD.
02:35:31.000They could have something that's probably, I mean, going way out in the limb, conjecture, obviously, I don't fucking know, but like my conspiracy mind wants to go to like, oh my God, they have like another whole military Air Force Navy that is disconnected from America that is probably more powerful than every other country combined that could just, you know, take over the world in an instant.
02:35:55.000But can't they already wipe each other out?
02:35:57.000I mean, the whole world has nuclear weapons.
02:36:00.000There's nuclear weapons in how many different countries?
02:36:02.000If they all launched them simultaneously, there's no life left on Earth.
02:36:05.000What I'm saying, with the 21 trillion, they could have some fucking weapon that would render a nuke completely irrelevant, you know, if they do have anti-gravity.
02:36:14.000And if they have figured out some of this crazy parapsychology stuff, the psionic stuff with the UFOs and like the mine interfacing, you know, all this just kooky stuff that you want to easily, you want to dismiss.
02:36:27.000But $21 trillion, if they were spending $50 on Stargate and they thought it was worth some sort of intelligence to spy on the Russians, like how much money would they keep throwing at something if there was just a shred of possibility that it could work?
02:36:45.000And if there was evidence that this works 3% of the time and we spent a million dollars on it, let's spend a trillion dollars on it and see how much more advanced we can get and see how much more control and world domination we can get.
02:36:59.000One of the things Lazar said about the craft that he was the sport model, which is that thing on the desk.
02:37:44.000Like you wear it and you think, and it does things for you.
02:37:47.000And then as technology scales further and further more advanced, you're going to get to a point where you can move your car with your mind.
02:37:53.000And then when you have spacecraft, of course, it would be the same sort of technology.
02:37:58.000You would use technology to move the craft with your mind.
02:38:02.000You know, they already have these interfaces with fighter pilots where where you look is where the crosshair shows up.
02:38:08.000So instead of having to like move a crosshair with like a, like, you know, like if you're playing a video game and you're moving the mouse, you're moving the crosshair to the side, or if you're using an Xbox controller, you're moving that crosshair to where you want to hit.
02:38:24.000The crosshair goes where their eyes go.
02:38:26.000So you're wearing this thing that knows where you're looking.
02:38:30.000And they already have this kind of technology with virtual reality.
02:38:32.000They have the technology with these meta glasses that they're developing.
02:38:37.000So they can, while you have this helmet on, this helmet is not simply a thing that protects your head.
02:38:43.000It's an electronic interface with the guidance system.
02:38:47.000And where your eyes look, the crosshairs go.
02:38:52.000Did you see the LLM stuff trying to get soldiers to leave the battlefield in the Russia-Ukraine war?
02:39:01.000They're using LLMs to, and the Russians are like hacking the Ukrainians' phones with LLMs, reading everything on their phones, seeing how they communicate with their family, and using LLMs to send messages to their phones of their family trying to get them to lay down their weapons and leave the war.
02:39:20.000Well, that's what gets real weird because if you give, if AI starts controlling all the war systems and it just has a goal and it doesn't have any ethics or morals or any concern about life or death, it just has a directive.
02:40:15.000And I think it'll become normal to be interfaced with the great hive mind.
02:40:20.000I think we're all going to be connected with some new technology the same way we're all connected with social media and email and FaceTime videos and all that shit that we are now, WhatsApp messages.
02:40:31.000We're all going to be connected with something that's far more technologically advanced and it'll become normal, just like this is normal.
02:40:38.000I just hope if it does get there, when it does get there, that we can overcome this sort of place that we've reached with social media where people are just like spatting out whatever comes to the front of their mind at any given moment or like just like rage, impulse, and fighting where there's no filter, which I think has just created more and more division and miscommunication.
02:41:14.000So if you could read my mind, you're going to be so goddamn confused and there's probably going to be shit in there you don't, I don't want you to know.
02:41:20.000And it's like, I can like to the writing process, right?
02:41:22.000Like when you write, you know about writing more than anyone, when you write something and you try to like distill an idea down to like the most precise form to communicate it accurately to the audience, right?
02:41:37.000Like you go through so many revisions and you revise and you refine until you get it perfect so you can communicate that message to your audience.
02:41:45.000But if it's just a direct stream of consciousness unedited, I can't imagine that would be a good thing, you know, unless you're like some meditative yogi that like has a really editorialized stream of consciousness, which I don't.
02:42:00.000Maybe instead of just having access to all your thoughts, maybe it's just simply what you're trying to communicate about your thoughts.
02:42:08.000Maybe it won't be as simple as we all have access to each other's minds.
02:42:12.000Maybe it would just be much more, you'll be able to purely transmit your feelings and your ideas without the context of a language.
02:42:22.000Maybe we'll have to develop some sort of universal language.
02:42:28.000You know, I've made that connection i made that connection last night i think about christ like christ was of a virgin birth like what's more of a virgin birth than sentient superintelligence from ai yeah if that becomes a being yeah that is essentially a god and is given birth by a virgin mother i mean that's the story of christ it's just it's just confusing it's just confusing if you translate it over and over over time but if christ is supposed to return that would be a way something like a god would return it would return
02:42:59.000through artificial intelligence if it just emerged out of our creation and our insatiable desire to make new and better things yeah no that that that makes a lot of sense like why else do we have this insane desire to have new and improved things because like isn't your phone good enough like i have a samsung galaxy s25 ultra and i have an iphone 16.
02:43:34.000But one of my favorite lines in that is when Ford is talking to Bernard, or not Bernard, one of the ladies, one of the robots, and he's explaining the human psyche.
02:43:47.000And he's like, all of the greatest achievements of humanity, the Eiffel Tower, the Statue of David, the Mona Lisa, all just elaborate, an elaborate mating call.
02:44:41.000And there's also that painting on the Sistine Chapel, the creation of Adam, which is also in that movie, where it shows God creating Adam and all the angels.
02:44:49.000And he's sitting inside of the perfect anatomical illustration of a human brain, if you look at it.
02:46:31.000The people who, like, don't believe Jesus existed, they'll make the argument, like, imagine 2,000 years from now that people wanted to say that they were not going to be a good idea.
02:46:41.000There was this mythical, divine person.
02:46:44.000And he existed because we know there's this divine trilogy called the Lord of the Rings.
02:47:17.000But if you, you know, if this one unique moment in time that God did send us his son to try to, like, sort things out and we wound up killing him.
02:47:40.000I mean, it might be part of the whole weirdness of this whole thing is that we have mythology.
02:47:44.000Part of the weirdness of the simulation might be that we have this fantastical mythology that you sort of have to suspend disbelief and accept.
02:47:56.000It's part of this whole weirdness that we have where we're susceptible to ideological belief systems like cults.
02:48:04.000You know, like political ideologies were essentially just like cults.
02:48:08.000You know, when you're on the right and you're, you know, right with everything and, you know, you're all MAGA.
02:48:14.000Or if you're on the left, you're blue no matter who.
02:48:21.000If we are in a simulation, why are we so malleable?
02:48:24.000Is it because we recognize it and we're supposed to oppose it and we're supposed to fight the instinct that we all deeply have embedded in our system but we also know is wrong?
02:48:54.000part of the mechanism that allows us to resist which allows us to innovate which encourages us to push forward and ask more questions because we know there's a lot of bullshit like the reason why people ask so many questions now in 2025 as opposed to 2019 is because of covet Because we went through so much bullshit and propaganda, we were so gaslit by the government, by the CDC, by everybody that now we question way more.
02:49:21.000So it's probably benefited us somewhat to go through that.
02:49:30.000He was the dude who worked for the Human Genome Project, like a DNA wizard.
02:49:35.000He was working for the Human Genome Project, trying to figure out different sort of medical treatments for cancers based on your genome.
02:49:42.000So like they could target a specific type of leukemia in you and they would take your DNA and they would like basically make designer drugs to target that cancer and to kill that cancer.
02:49:54.000And during the pandemic, somebody sent him four unopened vials of the Pfizer vaccine and he analyzed them and ran them through all of his processing systems, whatever the fuck he does.
02:50:09.000And he found out there was DNA plasmid contamination in them, which were like promoters of this SB40 shit.
02:50:19.000I talked to Brett Weinstein about that and he was explaining that when they first were sequencing certain vaccines, you know, because with the vaccine, you have to use living cells in order to create these antibodies initially.
02:50:36.000And when he's for traditional vaccines, right?
02:52:03.000It sucks because there's no way to know who's telling the truth unless you let people say crazy shit and then have someone come on and refute it and then have the two of them get together and debate it.
02:52:12.000You know, and then even then sometimes you don't know.
02:52:14.000Like with this Flint Dibble, Graham Hancock thing, you know, if it wasn't for Dan Richards, we wouldn't know that a lot of the things that Flint Dibble said were just absolutely not true.
02:53:29.000You're going to tell me some company is going to go to Google and say, listen, bro, we're not going to advertise with you unless you take that guy's video down.
02:53:36.000No, I think pharmaceutical drug companies have influence.
02:53:40.000And I think if you're getting an enormous percentage of your advertising revenue from pharmaceutical drug companies, which Callie means has said the reason why they do that is not to promote their drugs.
02:54:21.0002017, advertiser revolt on YouTube, popularly known as the adpocalypse, introduced widespread and radical changes on the platform's policy related to moderation content.
02:54:32.000Their monetizability and the terms of the relationship between the creators and the platform.
02:54:38.000And these changes, in turn, have caused significant discontent within the creator community while also gradually transforming the predominant nature of the content on the platform.
02:55:22.000This happened to Jesse too with Grush, where he was like, it was like the number one video on Grush, and all of a sudden you can't search it.
02:55:35.000I hate the fact that I actually have to think about whether I'm going to get the axe based on the topic I'm discussing.
02:55:42.000Like, where, like, I don't know if that leads, that doesn't lead to a good place as far as journalism goes, because journalism is supposed to be shining light on the dark places that people don't want to shine.
02:56:24.000Like with the cancer and how, you know, it goes all the way back to the early days in the 60s or the early 50s and 60s in New Orleans, how they were working trying to develop the polio vaccine with Alton Oschner at Tulane University and trying to weaponize some sort of a,
02:56:42.000there's a theory based on that book, Mary's Monkey, where they were growing the polio vaccines on the monkey kidneys and using this to also create bio-weapons to assassinate people like Castro.
02:56:56.000And that's apparently what, according to that book, what Lee Harvey Oswald was doing with that Lady Mary Sherman.
02:57:02.000And they were using that LINAC machine to try to like supercharge the SB40 to make it more deadly to induce cancer with people.
02:57:11.000And then, God, like the event, that cutter event where Alton injected his two grandkids with the polio vaccine in front of the whole auditorium of students.
02:57:23.000And his granddaughter lived, was paralyzed, but his grandson died the next day right after they did that.
02:57:31.000And they were like, there's people pushing back, like, don't do this.
02:57:33.000We tested this on monkeys and like, half of them are dead.
02:58:40.000So luckily, I got the opportunity to work on this movie called Dolphin Tail.
02:58:46.000It was a movie about a dolphin who got its tail stuck in a crab trap.
02:58:50.000And Morgan Friedman came in and built it a prosthetic tail.
02:58:53.000And it was swimming around in the aquarium.
02:58:56.000Carrie Connick Jr. and Morgan Friedman were in it.
02:58:58.000And it was like a big, you know, Warner Brothers movie.
02:59:02.000And I realized working as a camera production assistant on that movie, it was my film school, but I realized I did not want anything to do with making movies because it was the closest thing I ever experienced to work in construction.
02:59:14.000It was like I was in charge of swapping the camera lenses, the camera batteries, taking the SD cards back to the media truck, getting everybody breakfast and coffee.
02:59:23.000And these dudes, these camera department dudes, a lot of them are really cool.
02:59:26.000Like the dude Pete Zucarini, who was the underwater cinematographer who filmed all the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, he was fucking awesome.
02:59:31.000But a lot of the other guys were like really unhappy, like deeply unhappy because they never saw their families.
02:59:37.000They were always on the road, FaceTime, a lot of them on their like third, fourth wives, FaceTiming their kids.
02:59:43.000And it was like, you know, there were like carnies with dental plans.
02:59:47.000They made great money, but they were fucking deeply unhappy.
02:59:50.000So like I realized I didn't want to make movies anymore.
02:59:54.000So I started an advertising company and making commercials.
02:59:58.000And I started doing like spec ads and like winning a bunch of contests to make commercials.
03:00:02.000I won really one big contest for Land River USA where we made like a free ad and they paid us to make a bunch of other ads for him.
03:00:10.000And then that's where concrete came in.
03:00:12.000So it was called something else and I got sued by some advertising company in California saying, hey, bitch, can't use this name anymore.
03:00:20.000So my friend who owns a concrete construction company said, bro, there's this really cool website domain for sale with concrete with a K. He's like, it's like a couple thousand bucks.
03:00:40.000So after the advertising stuff, I started, I met a bunch of people.
03:00:47.000I met Hulk Hogan in the process of the whole advertising thing because me and Hulk live like five minutes from each other, which is like five minutes from the Church of Scientology, which is great.
03:00:56.000And I started making a bunch of commercials with him because he would always have companies that would hit him up and say, yo, let's partner on this new product.
03:01:04.000And one of them was a hosting company called Hostamania.
03:01:08.000They wanted to make Hulk the face of the company.
03:01:11.000And we created this whole fucking thing where it was like right when Miley Cyrus dropped the wrecking ball video and we put Hulk on a wrecking ball.
03:01:17.000We're like, yo, Hulk, we want to put you on a wrecking ball and have you freaking dropkick Van Dam, who's like the GoDaddy guy, right?
03:01:23.000And he's like, fuck yeah, brother, let's do it.
03:01:44.000And then I started working on a bunch of like show.
03:01:48.000This was like the boom of reality shows when like Duck Dynasty and Pawn Stars were all taking off.
03:01:53.000So I was like, I could probably fucking make a reality show.
03:01:55.000So I hit a bunch of my friends and we started like touring around trying to Find people to come up with like TV show ideas and concepts.
03:02:03.000And I got a couple people to invest in a couple of TV show ideas, pilots that I spent like six years working on.
03:02:09.000And it was this long process of shooting, editing, taking notes from production companies that, you know, you have to, you know, how this works, but you have to like work with production companies who already have relationships with networks.
03:02:22.000And they were like constantly giving us notes, like, okay, change this for A ⁇ E, change this for Spike TV.
03:02:29.000And we got to make sure it fits each network because we were pitching these networks, these show to all these networks.
03:03:08.000And the first one that really took off, got millions of views in like 2015 was called Deckhands.
03:03:14.000And it was the story of these alcoholic dudes, these drunks that were hanging out in front of 7-Eleven in this little sleepy town called Madeira Beach where I'm from.
03:03:24.000So me and my buddy Luke went up and we started filming these guys and asking them questions like, yo, what the fuck do you guys do here every day?
03:03:35.000And one of these dudes took us back to his boat he lived on.
03:03:37.000He had this broken down boat in this old dusty marina where it was, the boat didn't work, but he had, he lived in this boat and it had amplifiers stacked to the ceiling.
03:03:48.000He had a stack of porno DVDs like six feet tall, laser light machines, fog machines, and he wore these fairy wings and like an armor helmet.
03:03:56.000And he would jam out to like Rob Zombie on his guitar while playing the music videos on this big projection screen in his boat.
03:04:03.000And we're like, this is fucking the Twilight Zone, dude.
03:04:06.000And then they started telling us more and more about like what they did.
03:04:12.000This is Shane Lee, R.I.P. So we're like, we're asking these guys about like, what are you, like, you're fishermen, but like, explain to me, how does this thing, how does this work?
03:04:23.000And they were all pissed off about, oh, we're getting screwed by the boat owners and these IFQs and we don't make any money.
03:04:30.000And, you know, we're like, dude, there might be a story here.
03:04:34.000So we started interviewing more people.
03:04:35.000We eventually interviewed the people who own the boats and own the fish houses.
03:04:40.000So like Madeira Beach is the Johns Pass, Florida is the grouper capital of the world.
03:04:47.000There's more grouper caught there than anywhere in the world.
03:04:50.000And the way it works is before 2007, there was a quota system where it was like for a red snapper, it was like 3 million pounds per year are allowed to be caught in this area, right?
03:05:06.000So all the boats would go out and they would catch as much fish as they possibly could and they would wait when they get back from their trip and then they would, you know, quantify that or, you know, tell the federal government, this is where we're at.
03:05:17.000And sometimes they would reach that 3 million pound limit in like October.
03:05:23.000So what do they have to do for the rest of the year?
03:06:12.000You can just be some dude sitting in Manhattan in a high-rise and buying and selling fishing quota.
03:06:17.000You're not, and there's, there are like fishing communities in America, like in the Northeast, where it doesn't work like that, where you have to have your hand on the throttle.
03:06:54.000What happens is they get home from fishing from 10 days of fishing offshore and they get like $4,000 or $5,000 and they blow it all on prostitutes and Coke and hookers and heroin.
03:07:05.000And they just play, they're kids, dude.
03:07:25.000And they come back and then rinse and repeat.
03:07:28.000And one of the people that we interviewed, there was three main characters in that series.
03:07:35.000There was Shane Lee, there was Space, and then there was Hollywood Kim.
03:07:38.000And Hollywood Kim was the last episode, which was sometimes when I think I have problems in my life, I remember her story and realize I don't really know what fucking problems are.
03:07:47.000She was from Alabama, and when she was 17 years old, she gave birth to her father's son.