The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2351

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00:00:12.000 John, McCabe.

00:00:14.000 Hey, thank you for having me here.

00:00:15.000 My pleasure.

00:00:16.000 It's a joy.

00:00:17.000 It's a joy to have you, sir.

00:00:19.000 I've been having a good time hanging out with you at the club, so.

00:00:21.000 It's been great.

00:00:22.000 I felt like we got to do that.

00:00:23.000 This is very...

00:00:27.000 I have watched this on a phone before.

00:00:29.000 This is great.

00:00:30.000 Well, it's weird for me that it's weird for people because to me, it's still the same thing.

00:00:35.000 It's just sitting down and talking to people.

00:00:36.000 I've gotten so used to it, even when it's like Trump or Elon or some fucking huge cultural figure.

00:00:44.000 It's still at least one time.

00:00:46.000 I spun out a bunch of times in the early days.

00:00:49.000 I still spin out every now and then, like, you know, like Mel Gibson's on the podcast.

00:00:55.000 Oh, that's really Mel Gibson.

00:00:55.000 Yeah.

00:00:57.000 Mike Tyson, that's another one.

00:00:59.000 Yeah, he was, was this where he said he became erect when he wanted to beat people up?

00:01:04.000 That was in California.

00:01:06.000 Yeah.

00:01:06.000 Okay.

00:01:07.000 That was a classic, it's a classic, all-time great moment.

00:01:13.000 He was scaring the shit out of me.

00:01:15.000 Man, I spent out.

00:01:17.000 When I first got to the club, I was going, it was every week I would.

00:01:20.000 It's weird, right?

00:01:21.000 But when I first met Adam Egert, I went, I didn't know what to do.

00:01:25.000 Oh, Mr. Egert.

00:01:26.000 I've seen you.

00:01:27.000 You deny the Holocaust.

00:01:31.000 Not really, we should be real clear.

00:01:33.000 No, he was just under a bridge.

00:01:35.000 He was a Norm McDonald bit.

00:01:37.000 He features in that book a lot.

00:01:39.000 Well, Adam's an amazing guy.

00:01:41.000 He's the reason, he's one of the reasons why I went back to the store.

00:01:44.000 When I was banned from the store for seven years, Adam came to business.

00:01:49.000 Yeah.

00:01:50.000 Well, I banned myself for seven years.

00:01:51.000 They banned me.

00:01:52.000 They were going to ban me for like a few weeks.

00:01:53.000 I'm like, fuck you.

00:01:55.000 Like, nay.

00:01:57.000 What did you do?

00:01:57.000 There's the whole Carlos Mancia thing.

00:01:59.000 They banned you for that?

00:02:00.000 Yes.

00:02:01.000 You won the court of public opinion on that.

00:02:03.000 Well, not only did I not really get banned, the guy who banned me was eventually fired.

00:02:08.000 He was the manager there.

00:02:09.000 But Mitzi gave me a spot that night.

00:02:12.000 It's like before they called me to tell me I was banned.

00:02:15.000 Mitzi was going through a lot of health problems, right?

00:02:18.000 And, you know, Mitzi was, I was very close with her.

00:02:21.000 So I called her when the whole Mencia thing happened and I said, listen, this guy's been a problem.

00:02:26.000 It's a real issue.

00:02:27.000 People are worried about doing materially in front of him.

00:02:31.000 This is a giant problem.

00:02:33.000 And, you know, I told her the whole thing with the video.

00:02:36.000 She's like, all right, well, just keep away from him.

00:02:39.000 What time do you want to go up tonight?

00:02:41.000 And I said, when do you want me to go up?

00:02:42.000 And she said, how about 1030 or whatever it was?

00:02:45.000 And I said, thank you.

00:02:46.000 Okay, I love you.

00:02:47.000 Bye.

00:02:48.000 We said, bye.

00:02:49.000 And then like fucking an hour, two hours later, I get a call from this manager telling me that I'm banned from the store for two weeks.

00:02:59.000 And I was like, what?

00:03:01.000 I go, for two weeks.

00:03:03.000 I go, listen to me right now.

00:03:04.000 I'm not coming back.

00:03:05.000 I go, I'm not coming back.

00:03:07.000 And you're making a decision that's going to fuck this club up because you're choosing to take the side of plagiarism over someone who's exposing it.

00:03:17.000 Like the agents won't expose it.

00:03:18.000 They're making a shit ton of money.

00:03:21.000 And if the comedy store is not going to side with the artists, I'm like, listen, this is the same conversation I had with my agent.

00:03:28.000 I lost my agent too for that.

00:03:30.000 I feel like those are both important moments in it.

00:03:36.000 Everybody seems to have a problem with their agent violence.

00:03:38.000 But also the number of people who've been banned from comedy clubs.

00:03:41.000 Brian Simpson has told me about how he got banned for ages when he was homeless.

00:03:48.000 He was all doing banned from comedy clubs too.

00:03:52.000 He had some sort of an issue with someone there.

00:03:56.000 And this was like when Brian wasn't Brian Simpson from Netflix.

00:04:00.000 It was like Brian Simpson, up-and-coming door guy that people go, oh, that guy's funny.

00:04:04.000 But if you run afoul with certain people.

00:04:08.000 This is what I'm trying to avoid.

00:04:09.000 I did this in Australia a lot.

00:04:10.000 You ran afoul?

00:04:12.000 I was a problem.

00:04:13.000 And I couldn't work in certain cities for some time just because I was, I think, unpleasant.

00:04:20.000 What were you doing wrong?

00:04:21.000 You know, I started comedy.

00:04:22.000 I would go around telling people that they sucked and they should quit.

00:04:25.000 And I went to like the head of the Melbourne Comedy Festival.

00:04:28.000 I was in the comedy competition.

00:04:29.000 It was like my fourth gig.

00:04:31.000 And I was like, you're picking all the wrong people to win these.

00:04:33.000 these guys are better.

00:04:34.000 And it just...

00:04:36.000 Anyway, we grow older.

00:04:37.000 I was also 18.

00:04:38.000 And I was.

00:04:39.000 Yeah.

00:04:40.000 Oh, I get it.

00:04:41.000 Very.

00:04:43.000 A lot of telling people that they sucked.

00:04:44.000 Well, when you enter into comedy, you know, a lot of times people treat it weirdly like sports.

00:04:50.000 You know, like they talk shit playing basketball, so they try to talk shit doing comedy.

00:04:55.000 It's like it's weird.

00:04:57.000 I've gotten better at it.

00:04:58.000 I think I've purged it, but sometimes.

00:05:01.000 Well, it depends on the environment you're in.

00:05:02.000 If you're in an environment where a lot of people are doing that, it's not fun.

00:05:06.000 But this is, I find it easy here because people are, I don't want to say that everyone in Australia is bad at comedy.

00:05:11.000 There are many great comics, but I could not, for the life of me.

00:05:15.000 Like, there were times where it's like, oh, this could be helpful for your career to get in with someone and have them guide you.

00:05:20.000 And it's like, I just hated everybody's comedy that I met and hung out with.

00:05:26.000 And people who were great would often leave or not be around.

00:05:30.000 Australia's kind of a different.

00:05:31.000 You've got great people out there.

00:05:32.000 Lo, listen, you got Jim Jeffries.

00:05:35.000 I think you're the funniest guy that's ever come out of Australia.

00:05:37.000 Well, I believe that.

00:05:38.000 No, we have Barry Humphreys.

00:05:39.000 I'll never be better.

00:05:40.000 You know Barry Humphries?

00:05:41.000 No.

00:05:42.000 The first drag act.

00:05:45.000 I think we watched a clip once in the green room, but the problem is the green room is so loud.

00:05:51.000 Yeah, I'll watch.

00:05:52.000 I watched him.

00:05:53.000 He would dress up like a Dame Edna.

00:05:54.000 This is in the 70s.

00:05:55.000 He's a conservative man.

00:05:56.000 He would dress up like a housewife, like a very dowdy drag act.

00:05:59.000 And it was super funny.

00:06:00.000 He really broke through in the UK.

00:06:02.000 And then the festival turned their back on him.

00:06:04.000 He started the Melbourne Comedy Festival, and then he made some trans remark.

00:06:08.000 And Hannah Gadsby, I think, was like, I'm not taking this award in his name.

00:06:13.000 Okay, you changed the award.

00:06:14.000 You're the funniest Australian.

00:06:16.000 I reach out to Hannah as well.

00:06:17.000 You forget about Hannah.

00:06:18.000 Hannah was a great club act.

00:06:19.000 I tell this to people all the time.

00:06:22.000 No one wants to believe it.

00:06:23.000 Well, listen, man, it's just she did a different thing.

00:06:26.000 A lot of people got mad at that, but I don't get mad at things that are not for me.

00:06:31.000 it's pointless.

00:06:32.000 I think it took me a while.

00:06:33.000 It was like a revolutionary act for Americans because you don't have comedy festivals in the same way here.

00:06:37.000 But like everyone in Australia was doing the I Got Raped show or the I Wanted to Commit Suicide show.

00:06:43.000 Oh, really?

00:06:44.000 Yeah, everyone does an hour.

00:06:45.000 That's the only way you can.

00:06:46.000 There's only five cities.

00:06:47.000 So the comedy festivals are the only way you can really break through and make money.

00:06:50.000 There's five clubs, and once you've done two of them, you've got nothing.

00:06:53.000 So you have to have a new hour every year.

00:06:56.000 There was the, oh man, there have been some great I Was Molested shows.

00:07:00.000 Shout out Corey White for one of the greatest I Was Molested shows ever.

00:07:04.000 Dave Quirk had the I Had an Affair show.

00:07:06.000 That was great.

00:07:08.000 Dad's Got Cancer.

00:07:09.000 Big show.

00:07:10.000 Big show.

00:07:10.000 Oh, no.

00:07:11.000 Mum died when I was young.

00:07:12.000 Saw that Eve.

00:07:13.000 Sort of like more like a spoken word thing than you would say stand-up comedy.

00:07:20.000 People do all the jokes they wrote that year, which gets you to like 35 minutes.

00:07:24.000 Then you tell a 10-minute, very sad story.

00:07:27.000 And then.

00:07:28.000 And then I finished my chicken curry and I thought I'm ready to die.

00:07:33.000 And then you bring it back with a gag at the end.

00:07:36.000 And that was like standard?

00:07:38.000 Yeah.

00:07:39.000 It's still going on to this day.

00:07:40.000 There's a lot of yeah.

00:07:44.000 I couldn't imagine you doing that.

00:07:46.000 You're so like funny heavy.

00:07:49.000 Like your comedy's very funny heavy.

00:07:52.000 It feels important for comedy.

00:07:54.000 It's the fucking most important thing.

00:07:56.000 It's fun to get interesting ideas out there.

00:07:58.000 It really is.

00:07:59.000 It's fun to talk about interesting subjects, but it's got to be funny.

00:08:05.000 I mean, when people have a theme, Colin Quinn does this all the time, and it's great.

00:08:09.000 He does like that.

00:08:10.000 Don't you therapy show, Red State, Blue State thing.

00:08:10.000 Oh, yeah.

00:08:13.000 History of America in New York is great.

00:08:15.000 He's a genius at it.

00:08:16.000 He's probably the best at it about telling interesting subject matter, using interesting subject matter, telling you things you didn't know with comedy.

00:08:26.000 And highlighting the ridiculousness of it all.

00:08:26.000 Yeah.

00:08:28.000 He was at the club and that was crazy.

00:08:31.000 He's great.

00:08:32.000 He's such a great.

00:08:33.000 Usually time is dragging on when people are on stage and you check how long it's gone, even if it's great and you go, I thought we were at the 20-minute mark.

00:08:40.000 It's been six minutes or something.

00:08:41.000 Dude, time just disappears for him.

00:08:42.000 Really blew me away is Jimmy Carr.

00:08:45.000 Oh my God.

00:08:45.000 Yeah.

00:08:46.000 He was so on when he was here.

00:08:49.000 He was doing new stuff.

00:08:50.000 I saw him running the new with the pages.

00:08:52.000 Yeah, with the pages.

00:08:53.000 But the polish, like while he's doing the new stuff, he's so good off the cuff that even if the new stuff was going sideways, people love him.

00:09:03.000 He figured out a way to turn it around and would address it.

00:09:06.000 Oh, he was so good.

00:09:08.000 He just sits and writes, apparently.

00:09:09.000 He's an animal.

00:09:10.000 He teaches it, too.

00:09:12.000 He has a program that they actually ran at the mothership for up-and-coming comedy.

00:09:12.000 He teaches it.

00:09:16.000 Did you teach it?

00:09:17.000 I'm always wary of that.

00:09:19.000 I don't think you could teach comedy necessarily, but I think you could teach, you could learn how he does it, and you can learn how certain people do it.

00:09:27.000 And I think some of that you can apply.

00:09:30.000 And the Mitchellberg School of Comedy, you've got to take a lot of heroin.

00:09:33.000 Yeah.

00:09:33.000 And put your hair right over your face.

00:09:35.000 I think what you can do, though, is teach work ethic.

00:09:39.000 Yeah.

00:09:39.000 And I think that's half the battle.

00:09:41.000 Half the battle is just sitting down and actually writing.

00:09:45.000 And everyone comes up with an excuse.

00:09:47.000 It's like a cold plunge.

00:09:49.000 Everybody comes up with an excuse why they don't want a cold plunge.

00:09:52.000 And everybody comes up with an excuse why they don't write in front of a computer or on a piece of paper.

00:09:57.000 They always write only on stage.

00:09:59.000 I mean, doing the same thing over and over again was I, for, I don't know, seven, eight years at the start, I struggled to do it.

00:10:05.000 I had no, I had like five bad hours of comedy.

00:10:09.000 And it wasn't until I probably impregnated my wife that was like, I should make sure there's a good five.

00:10:16.000 I should really boil this down to a good five minutes or I'm in real trouble.

00:10:20.000 Well, sometimes it's something like that has to happen in your life where you really take it seriously.

00:10:25.000 Because we all know comics that like we started with, we're like, oh my God, this guy's going to be huge.

00:10:30.000 And for whatever reason, they didn't put in the work.

00:10:30.000 Yeah.

00:10:34.000 They fucked off.

00:10:35.000 They self-sabotaged.

00:10:36.000 Every town you go to, there's the guy who's going to be big.

00:10:40.000 I think if we can encourage more people, we can make less of that.

00:10:44.000 And I think we can give more people a chance.

00:10:46.000 Because I think we all could have been that person who quit.

00:10:51.000 And I know in the beginning, I thought about quit a bunch of times.

00:10:54.000 One of the things that helped me not quit is I tore my ACL.

00:10:58.000 Okay.

00:10:59.000 So I couldn't train or compete anymore.

00:11:02.000 Because I was still kind of on the fence of whether I'd go back to fighting.

00:11:07.000 Because I was terrible at comedy.

00:11:09.000 I was like good every now and again.

00:11:11.000 The ACL took that away from you.

00:11:12.000 You had one option now.

00:11:13.000 I was like, okay, I can't fight anymore.

00:11:15.000 I need to get surgery.

00:11:17.000 I got to take this seriously.

00:11:18.000 And I got to really pick one thing.

00:11:21.000 And I completely stopped competing.

00:11:23.000 So I was like a year into comedy.

00:11:26.000 So that was an important thing.

00:11:28.000 Like I needed a thing where I was like, okay, I've got no options now.

00:11:32.000 Like I can't just enter into a kickboxing tournament and say, fuck comedy.

00:11:35.000 This is too hard.

00:11:36.000 And it was just, it was a weird thing.

00:11:39.000 It was like I had to make a complete mind shift from someone who didn't care at all about other people's opinions, someone who was like, I will show you.

00:11:48.000 I will show you.

00:11:49.000 Like, I don't give a fuck what you think.

00:11:51.000 I will show you.

00:11:52.000 Yeah.

00:11:52.000 To, I have to get you to like me.

00:11:55.000 Yeah.

00:11:55.000 I have to be fun, not just funny with my friends, but I have to figure out how to make these people my friends where I was always very standoffish with new people.

00:12:02.000 It was a weird thing to try to adjust a comedy.

00:12:05.000 Well, also, if you can't make it work, you have to stop at some point.

00:12:08.000 Oh, you have to.

00:12:09.000 If you can't make it work, but I did make it work sometimes.

00:12:13.000 I just had to figure out what was consistent when I was making it work.

00:12:16.000 That's a bitch.

00:12:17.000 That's a real...

00:12:22.000 I know, it's hard.

00:12:24.000 Because you have to come back and do it a couple times and miss a bit.

00:12:27.000 But I see people have a great, like a one-off, great one, and then you go, where did that go?

00:12:31.000 Oh, dude, there's a girl that I saw once in 1990.

00:12:36.000 No, 1995 or 6.

00:12:39.000 That's what it was.

00:12:40.000 1995 or 6.

00:12:41.000 She did a set in the belly room.

00:12:44.000 And it was one of the funniest sets I've ever seen in my life.

00:12:47.000 It was like I was watching a female Sam Kennison.

00:12:51.000 I was like, this girl is on fire.

00:12:53.000 Like, this is insane.

00:12:55.000 And then it never happened.

00:12:57.000 I don't know what happened.

00:12:59.000 You know, I don't know.

00:13:01.000 People just never really get it together.

00:13:04.000 Whatever the fuck they pulled off that time, they can't do again.

00:13:08.000 Lightning in a bottle.

00:13:10.000 But it was in there.

00:13:11.000 Like, it's in there.

00:13:12.000 That comedy was in there.

00:13:13.000 I was like, if this person with the right encouragement could have been fucking huge, man.

00:13:18.000 I remember I saw my friend Amos on a day.

00:13:18.000 Yeah.

00:13:21.000 His girlfriend broke up with him and he went and did.

00:13:24.000 He did like 25.

00:13:27.000 And he was just heartbroken.

00:13:28.000 He was just complaining about being devastated.

00:13:30.000 And it was all the things that were wrong with his comedy beforehand were like gone.

00:13:34.000 He was used to be like unpleasant and in people's face and then he was like free and likable and good.

00:13:39.000 It's like, oh, you can't engineer to be broken up with every show.

00:13:45.000 You can't engineer that.

00:13:46.000 Right.

00:13:47.000 You shouldn't.

00:13:47.000 Well, that was Kinnison in the early days, right?

00:13:51.000 Kinnison in the early days was all about meeting the devil and the devil's like, oh, you've been married?

00:13:56.000 Yeah.

00:13:56.000 This is all fucking nudie.

00:13:58.000 You know, it's all old hat to you.

00:13:59.000 Oh, this is where we're tortured the souls.

00:14:02.000 I never had it.

00:14:03.000 Oh, you were married twice?

00:14:04.000 Like, remember that bit?

00:14:06.000 Kinnison, the first time I realized that he was a big thing was when that poster went up backstage at the mothership.

00:14:11.000 Oh, really?

00:14:12.000 Yeah, we didn't get him.

00:14:13.000 Wow.

00:14:14.000 We didn't get him, we didn't get...

00:14:17.000 We got Ron White because he was on Comedy Central.

00:14:19.000 So I had seen his special a bunch of times.

00:14:22.000 But that's crazy.

00:14:23.000 But in terms of American comics, I didn't get Kinison.

00:14:25.000 I didn't get...

00:14:26.000 Who else?

00:14:29.000 He must have got Hicks.

00:14:31.000 People around me had Hicks, but I was late to Hicks because the men who loved Hicks were nuts.

00:14:38.000 Right.

00:14:39.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:39.000 Like, you go, there's something good here, but I'm going to have to come back to it.

00:14:42.000 Well, he was so good and so unique in the kind of comedy that he did and so smart that it made a bunch of guys try to be like him.

00:14:51.000 Yes.

00:14:52.000 Yeah.

00:14:53.000 There's many such cases.

00:14:54.000 There's guys who are great, but they destroy.

00:14:57.000 Dude.

00:14:57.000 There's a lot of little Casey Rockets running around who think they don't have to write anything.

00:15:02.000 One of the all-time great...

00:15:03.000 I mean, if you...

00:15:08.000 I mean, he's an all-time great.

00:15:09.000 And when I saw him in like the 1980s, he did a club, I guess it was probably 90, 91 maybe, Eastside Comedy Club.

00:15:20.000 He did four different hours.

00:15:22.000 And the MC wanted to quit comedy after he MC'd for him the weekend.

00:15:26.000 He said, he did four different hours, a different hour on Friday night, first show, different hour, second show, different hour, first show, Saturday night, different hour.

00:15:35.000 All of them murdered.

00:15:37.000 And he said, it was insane.

00:15:38.000 And he goes, I wanted to quit comedy.

00:15:40.000 He saw Hicks and he said to me, like, we were hanging out together.

00:15:44.000 He was like, God, I wish I makes me want to do more of that.

00:15:48.000 You know, I feel like sometimes I'm not doing enough of that.

00:15:50.000 Like, wow, that's crazy.

00:15:52.000 Do you know Ken Dodd?

00:15:54.000 Do you know that he was a Liverpudlian comedian, I think.

00:15:57.000 But he would come out and he would do his new hour and people would like clap and say thank you.

00:16:01.000 And then he would say, right, I'm going to do the hour I did last time I was in town.

00:16:04.000 You can leave if you want, but I'll do.

00:16:06.000 And the second hour is the hour he did the year before.

00:16:09.000 And then he'd do the hour that he did the year before that.

00:16:11.000 And he'd just do hour after hour until the whole, until like if people had enough, they could get up and walk away.

00:16:15.000 Wow.

00:16:16.000 But he'd be there for like seven hours.

00:16:18.000 Jesus Christ.

00:16:19.000 You know, he used to do that.

00:16:19.000 People hated it.

00:16:20.000 Chappelle used to do that.

00:16:22.000 He used to pull up to the Laugh Factory and do like a nine-hour set.

00:16:26.000 Yeah.

00:16:26.000 He's still doing it.

00:16:28.000 think him and Dane Cook had like a battle to see like who could do the longest set.

00:16:33.000 I mean, I saw I got to go to Shane took me to the YS Firehouse, the club that Dave has set up in Yellow Springs.

00:16:45.000 Yeah, it was on his birthday, and he did three hours, and he bombed at his own birthday.

00:16:50.000 And he kept saying, I can't believe I'm bombing at my own club on my birthday.

00:16:55.000 But then in the middle, there was a guy with a coat, and he just did maybe 45 minutes about this guy's coat of crowd work on his, just a, it was magical.

00:17:03.000 The whole thing flew.

00:17:04.000 He could release an hour on this guy's coat.

00:17:06.000 I think he's recording everything there.

00:17:08.000 He's building a vault, I think.

00:17:10.000 I think he's got a Prince vault.

00:17:12.000 a prince vault yeah like how prince i think every second album prince would just put it away Yeah, he's got a whole system for how he creates comedy.

00:17:23.000 It's very unique.

00:17:24.000 He goes on stage and he has some subjects and he just fucks around and he gets a little drunk.

00:17:29.000 Yeah.

00:17:30.000 Gets a little high and he's so funny that some of those things will wind up being bits.

00:17:35.000 Yes.

00:17:36.000 And then he takes those bits and then he has all of them recorded.

00:17:40.000 So he's just constantly stocking.

00:17:42.000 And he goes on stage almost every night.

00:17:44.000 There's nothing in my vault.

00:17:46.000 Everything I've gotten, I've got like...

00:17:51.000 Isn't that a great example?

00:17:52.000 Like, not everybody has the option to just go on stage and rant for three hours.

00:17:57.000 But isn't it educational to any young comics that says, okay, who do people consider to be the greatest comic alive?

00:18:05.000 Most people would say Dave Chappelle.

00:18:06.000 And Dave Chappelle is working harder than anybody.

00:18:09.000 Yes.

00:18:09.000 It's not a coincidence.

00:18:11.000 Like, he's effortlessly funny.

00:18:13.000 Yes, for sure.

00:18:14.000 Yes, for sure.

00:18:14.000 Brilliant.

00:18:15.000 But also works every night.

00:18:18.000 Like, there's something to that.

00:18:19.000 And works every night and does long sets.

00:18:21.000 Yeah.

00:18:22.000 Like every night.

00:18:22.000 Like, he's always there.

00:18:25.000 He's always getting better.

00:18:26.000 He's always covering new stuff.

00:18:27.000 to do it before I came to America.

00:18:29.000 I would do like...

00:18:33.000 And I thought this was enough to get me where I needed to go.

00:18:37.000 No, going every night is it's also hard to go every night.

00:18:40.000 Like you don't, you have a good time once you're out.

00:18:42.000 But then you got to avoid the comedy.

00:18:46.000 You got to avoid that feeling.

00:18:47.000 Right.

00:18:48.000 So it's a mental collapse.

00:18:51.000 It's, you know, familiarity breeds contempt.

00:18:54.000 It's not just in relationships.

00:18:56.000 It's in anything you do.

00:18:57.000 Yeah.

00:18:57.000 And that's where you have to reset your mind.

00:19:00.000 Right.

00:19:01.000 So like when you start to feel that coming on, like, I can't believe I have to do another set.

00:19:05.000 Fuck, I don't want to do a second show.

00:19:07.000 You have to remember what it was like when you had nothing.

00:19:11.000 And you have to remember what it was like when you would go to open mic night and just you weren't on the list.

00:19:17.000 You didn't make the list.

00:19:18.000 But you just wanted to go on stage so bad.

00:19:20.000 You wanted to go on stage so bad.

00:19:22.000 And you wanted to, you're like, I got to figure this thing out.

00:19:25.000 You got to have your Johnny Cash moments in backstage at the Folsom Prison.

00:19:28.000 Yeah.

00:19:28.000 And if you are about to go do a second sold-out show?

00:19:33.000 No, it's silly.

00:19:34.000 You should be so pumped.

00:19:35.000 It's just a familiarity thing, it's just a mind fuck.

00:19:38.000 But you can get over mind fucks, man.

00:19:41.000 You can get over them if you understand what they are and just recalibrate the way you engage with it.

00:19:47.000 Figuring out a way to recalibrate that doesn't kill you in the long run is a good...

00:19:51.000 Like I know some people...

00:19:54.000 Cocaine.

00:19:55.000 People get like fucked up or just play a video game all week and then they can get back and do it.

00:19:59.000 You don't have to, though.

00:20:00.000 You don't have to do those things.

00:20:01.000 I think you've got to do something.

00:20:02.000 You've got to go for a nice walk.

00:20:04.000 I started swimming.

00:20:04.000 Yeah.

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00:21:14.000 That's drinkag1.com slash Joe Rogan.

00:21:18.000 That's telling me that.

00:21:21.000 Yeah.

00:21:22.000 I'm all about, I've got nothing.

00:21:23.000 I go on stage and I try and talk about how much I love the pool.

00:21:25.000 I got nothing.

00:21:26.000 You're going to make three sets where I stand there and go, isn't swimming beautiful?

00:21:26.000 You might have to do it.

00:21:29.000 You'll fear it.

00:21:30.000 Then I say nothing and I wait for something to happen after that.

00:21:33.000 And I go and talk about the next thing.

00:21:36.000 Well, it's, you know, one of those exercises that because you're moving against the resistance of the water, it doesn't damage your joints.

00:21:43.000 Yeah.

00:21:44.000 And it's like, it feels like therapeutic, even though it feels like exercise.

00:21:49.000 You can get yourself tired if you want.

00:21:50.000 You can slow it down.

00:21:51.000 Oh, yeah.

00:21:52.000 You can.

00:21:52.000 Yeah, and it's fun.

00:21:53.000 I swim with my dog.

00:21:56.000 In a lake?

00:21:57.000 No, in a pool.

00:21:58.000 Me and the dog swim in the pool.

00:22:01.000 He's the funniest.

00:22:02.000 He's such a great dog.

00:22:03.000 I did find your dog Instagram account.

00:22:05.000 Are you running the dog Instagram account?

00:22:07.000 My wife runs.

00:22:07.000 Okay.

00:22:08.000 But he's so great that he won't swim unless you're swimming.

00:22:14.000 He knows he's not supposed to just randomly jump in the pool because then he comes in the house, fucks everything up.

00:22:19.000 So he only is allowed to swim when we tell him to swim.

00:22:22.000 And so he sits there like, are we fucking swimming today?

00:22:24.000 Yeah.

00:22:24.000 And then when he finds out we're swimming, we're like, oh, shit, we're swimming.

00:22:28.000 And he just jumps off the fucking side of the pool.

00:22:31.000 Chlorinated pool.

00:22:32.000 A salt pool?

00:22:33.000 I think it's salt pool.

00:22:33.000 Salt pool.

00:22:33.000 Yeah.

00:22:34.000 If it's not, it's supposed to be.

00:22:36.000 I can float in that.

00:22:37.000 I cannot float in the chlorine pool, and that brings me great.

00:22:40.000 Why not?

00:22:41.000 My legs sink down.

00:22:43.000 I have no bum.

00:22:43.000 Oh.

00:22:44.000 Have you ever done a float tank?

00:22:46.000 Never.

00:22:46.000 Oh, my God.

00:22:47.000 I'm afraid of what would be in my brain.

00:22:49.000 You need to find out.

00:22:50.000 Go dig around.

00:22:50.000 No.

00:22:52.000 Go dig around there.

00:22:54.000 Repression is so beautiful.

00:22:55.000 Just dig around, dog.

00:22:57.000 I've been there for five minutes.

00:22:58.000 I'll be back in the camera.

00:23:01.000 Just push it down and get back to work at the factory.

00:23:04.000 It really does.

00:23:05.000 I'm a big believer in push it down and keep moving.

00:23:08.000 Hey, there's something to be said about it.

00:23:09.000 I mean, you explode at some point.

00:23:10.000 Well, the opposite is not good, right?

00:23:13.000 If you're constantly dwelling on your problems all the time.

00:23:16.000 That's worse.

00:23:17.000 I was – someone was – I got – Jesus Christ.

00:23:24.000 Lord's name.

00:23:24.000 But it was a beautiful experience.

00:23:25.000 I enjoyed it.

00:23:26.000 I had a nice time.

00:23:27.000 Did you get a rabbi to suck your dick?

00:23:29.000 I thought about it.

00:23:30.000 I thought I could leave that in as an option.

00:23:32.000 But also, it's fine.

00:23:34.000 By the way, for people.

00:23:35.000 making a joke.

00:23:35.000 You know different.

00:23:36.000 They do suck the...

00:23:39.000 Sometimes they have a special tube.

00:23:40.000 Yeah, and sometimes they don't.

00:23:41.000 No, sometimes they just get the Holy Ghost.

00:23:43.000 Giving kids herpes and baby.

00:23:45.000 Children do diet.

00:23:45.000 They died from it.

00:23:47.000 Yeah, it's grim.

00:23:48.000 But circumcision in general, I'm in favor.

00:23:50.000 Why?

00:23:51.000 Because I know what it was like before.

00:23:52.000 I know what it was like after.

00:23:53.000 It's not a big deal.

00:23:55.000 But there are people, what I'm saying, people make it their whole.

00:23:57.000 One of one.

00:23:58.000 Yeah, I've experienced both as an adult.

00:24:00.000 I think most people would not want their dick to be cut for no real reason other than aesthetics.

00:24:05.000 And people are like, oh, it prevents AIDS.

00:24:07.000 Like, shut the fuck up.

00:24:09.000 I got to go to the AIDS Memorial Garden in San Francisco.

00:24:12.000 Yeah, did you show them your new dick?

00:24:14.000 Well, people definitely would.

00:24:15.000 It's a lot of nooks and crannies in the AIDS Memorial Garden.

00:24:17.000 Like, they built the perfect place to have sex with a man in the AIDS Market.

00:24:21.000 It's perfect.

00:24:22.000 Someone's definitely gotten AIDS at the AIDS Memorial Garden.

00:24:24.000 You think so?

00:24:25.000 And they're fucking away and they're gone.

00:24:26.000 I knew there was something I was supposed to remember.

00:24:29.000 Now I have AIDS.

00:24:30.000 It was very good.

00:24:31.000 It was a beautiful park.

00:24:32.000 San Francisco was lovely.

00:24:34.000 Have you ever listened to people like, what is that guy's name?

00:24:40.000 The guy that we had on the podcast a long time ago, Peter Duisberg.

00:24:43.000 No.

00:24:44.000 If you want to go down the ultimate rabbit hole.

00:24:46.000 Oh, what's he doing?

00:24:47.000 Is he in a park?

00:24:48.000 No.

00:24:48.000 Peter Duisberg doesn't believe that HIV causes AIDS.

00:24:52.000 I've heard about this.

00:24:53.000 It's the treatment.

00:24:54.000 Peter Duisberg is, he's a professor of biology, University of California, Berkeley, tenured.

00:25:03.000 And he's done groundbreaking work on cancer.

00:25:06.000 He's considered to be a brilliant guy.

00:25:09.000 Considered to be a brilliant guy.

00:25:10.000 So in the 80s, when all this was going on with AIDS, his assertion was that there was a thing that people were not factoring in, is that almost all of the people who developed AIDS were hardcore partiers, hardcore drug users in the gay community.

00:25:28.000 And no one wanted to address that.

00:25:29.000 And he was saying, no, this is destroying their immune system.

00:25:33.000 And then HIV shows up.

00:25:35.000 He goes, HIV is a weak virus.

00:25:37.000 He goes, in most people, and what I read, what he said, and I don't know if this is true, maybe we could find out, that babies, if they're born, they test positive for HIV without any treatment at all, are HIV negative within a certain amount of time.

00:25:51.000 Okay.

00:25:51.000 And so it all sounds nuts, right?

00:25:55.000 Because there's no way.

00:25:56.000 There's no martial evidence for that.

00:25:57.000 Because like African countries, you would go, healthcare Would be bad, malnutrition would be.

00:26:01.000 Well, this is the thing.

00:26:02.000 Are they really testing for HIV when they say these people have AIDS?

00:26:05.000 And is there other possible factors that could cause this immune thing?

00:26:10.000 And if you're dealing with, like, it's all coming out of this gay community where there are a lot of partying, there's a lot of drug use and a lot of wild fucking.

00:26:17.000 And these guys are burning it at both ends.

00:26:20.000 And when you do that, sometimes you fucking die.

00:26:23.000 Sometimes your immune system gets crashed.

00:26:25.000 Now, clearly, I'm not fucking smart enough to know if he's right or if everyone else in the world is right because it's literally that, right?

00:26:34.000 It's like he's not.

00:26:34.000 I don't want that guy to be right, though.

00:26:36.000 Well, there's a bunch of people that agree with him and silently agree with him.

00:26:40.000 There's a bunch of people.

00:26:41.000 It's actually covered in RFK Jr.'s book on Fauci because it has to do with Fauci.

00:26:47.000 But Fauci was in charge then.

00:26:49.000 Yes.

00:26:50.000 Yes, he was the one that was giving people AZT, right?

00:26:52.000 So AZT was a cancer medication that was killing people quicker than cancer was.

00:26:57.000 It was a chemotherapy.

00:26:59.000 And not only is it a chemotherapy, this is the only time during the AIDS crisis where a chemotherapy was prescribed permanently.

00:27:06.000 Because chemotherapy, the agreement is like, I'm going to take this poison that's going to destroy my body, but it's going to kill the cancer.

00:27:16.000 And then when the cancer is dead, I'm going to get healthy again.

00:27:19.000 Right?

00:27:19.000 Yeah, no one gets focused on chemotherapy.

00:27:21.000 You don't stay on it.

00:27:22.000 No one's getting an extra prescription.

00:27:23.000 And it's a super strong one.

00:27:25.000 And, you know, there was a lot of people that took AZT when they were asymptomatic.

00:27:30.000 Like, they didn't even have any of the symptoms.

00:27:32.000 They just tested positive for HIV.

00:27:34.000 And this is back when Kerry Mullis, the guy who invented the PCR test, he's like famously on record saying like this is no way to test for diseases and Fauci doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

00:27:46.000 And it's the same guy that was in charge during the whole COVID thing.

00:27:49.000 And you're like, that is the craziest conspiracy that HIV doesn't cause AIDS.

00:27:54.000 But what he's saying is HIV is present in people with already compromised immune systems and that this unique factor that they're all hardcore drug users was never taken into consideration.

00:28:08.000 Well, I mean, certainly with COVID, they didn't take it into account.

00:28:11.000 Well, they fed people and weak people.

00:28:12.000 The thing is, you've got to look at it from a profitability standpoint.

00:28:16.000 And I know this is super cynical and sounds disgusting.

00:28:18.000 But if you have an actual disease that you can prescribe medication for, that's valuable.

00:28:26.000 If you have a bunch of people that are doing something that's super healthy that's killing them and you don't have a solution, that's not valuable.

00:28:33.000 Well, they figured it out with fat people.

00:28:35.000 They've got the Ozempic.

00:28:36.000 I mean, people are just on the Ozempic forever.

00:28:38.000 Bro, do you know Ozempic is like the number one most profitable medication in the country?

00:28:42.000 I mean, I believe it, but.

00:28:43.000 Is that true?

00:28:44.000 Did I make that up?

00:28:45.000 I think that's true.

00:28:46.000 Sometimes I see things on TikTok and I was like, is this China folks?

00:28:46.000 They're all doing it.

00:28:49.000 Also, some of them look great.

00:28:50.000 I know people on Ozempic who are They're not doing it.

00:28:55.000 No.

00:28:56.000 Thinking about it?

00:28:56.000 Never.

00:28:57.000 Nope.

00:28:57.000 Not.

00:28:58.000 I'm a comfortable level of fat.

00:28:58.000 No way.

00:29:01.000 In America, no one has ever called me fat.

00:29:03.000 No.

00:29:03.000 In Australia at this body, all the time.

00:29:06.000 They're all fucking healthy over there.

00:29:06.000 Really?

00:29:06.000 Yeah.

00:29:08.000 You guys got to hike everywhere.

00:29:09.000 I think the food is better.

00:29:11.000 For sure.

00:29:13.000 I became lactose intolerant when I came to America because I had raw milk and then I vomited green bile for a couple of days.

00:29:21.000 You ate raw milk here?

00:29:22.000 I had like a gallon of raw milk in a day.

00:29:25.000 So raw milk, not pasteurized, not hot.

00:29:28.000 I got it from the farmer's market.

00:29:29.000 The guy looked really strong and healthy.

00:29:31.000 I was like, I want that cool right-wing milk.

00:29:33.000 It gave you lactose intolerance?

00:29:34.000 I don't know.

00:29:35.000 I like the milk so much I like to believe it wasn't that.

00:29:37.000 But it was dressed too much of it.

00:29:40.000 I think I got some sort of weird bacteria, but I was, yeah.

00:29:42.000 Oh, green bile, both ends.

00:29:44.000 Really?

00:29:45.000 Yes.

00:29:46.000 Lost away.

00:29:47.000 Right now you're destroying the raw milk industry.

00:29:49.000 I'm still handed it.

00:29:50.000 It also, it was the most beautiful milk I've ever had.

00:29:54.000 I don't want to be negative about raw milk.

00:29:56.000 If you can have it and it doesn't do that to you, you had the raw milk?

00:30:00.000 I have.

00:30:00.000 It's like drinking a secret.

00:30:02.000 I think raw milk should be like raw meat.

00:30:03.000 Leave me alone.

00:30:05.000 Leave me alone.

00:30:05.000 I know how to cook a steak, right?

00:30:07.000 You don't tell me how to cook a steak.

00:30:09.000 You let me buy raw milk.

00:30:10.000 Let me buy it.

00:30:11.000 Yeah.

00:30:12.000 If you let me buy raw meat, let me buy raw milk.

00:30:14.000 Shut the fuck up.

00:30:15.000 Now, are you saying that it's killing people?

00:30:18.000 Okay, where's your evidence?

00:30:19.000 And is pasteurization and homogenization, which does make it more shelf-stable and make it so that you could, you know, you can keep it in the refrigerator for a long time and it's still fine.

00:30:30.000 And it has an expired buy date.

00:30:32.000 Yes.

00:30:33.000 Raw milk goes bad quick.

00:30:34.000 So should you drink the bad raw milk?

00:30:36.000 No, definitely not.

00:30:37.000 But is there anything super beneficial about drinking the raw milk?

00:30:42.000 Well, there seems to be a lot of evidence as long as it doesn't have bacteria in it.

00:30:48.000 Okay, well, how do you prevent that?

00:30:49.000 Well, I feel like we can do that.

00:30:51.000 See, I don't think this a little bit more.

00:30:52.000 This doesn't feel especially well regulated at the moment.

00:30:54.000 That's the problem.

00:30:54.000 I bought it from a guy's muddy van.

00:30:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:57.000 And then as I was vomiting and shitting, I was like, this doesn't feel natural.

00:30:59.000 You've got to get it from a reputable farmer.

00:31:01.000 But you get it from a reputable farmer.

00:31:03.000 They exist.

00:31:04.000 There's like a whole website where you can find raw milk because people are raw milk nuts, which is also what turns me off to raw milk.

00:31:11.000 The raw milk.

00:31:12.000 Oh, my God.

00:31:13.000 For about six hours, I thought I had the greatest insight anybody had ever had.

00:31:18.000 This is the special milk we should all be having.

00:31:20.000 Until it started blowing out your body.

00:31:22.000 Maybe you just drank too much.

00:31:24.000 Everyone else in the family was fine.

00:31:25.000 My wife, my kids, they had a little bit.

00:31:28.000 Yeah, you probably drank too much.

00:31:29.000 I mean, if you drink too much of anything, you'll get diarrhea.

00:31:31.000 And think about how much you're dealing with how much milk fat and how much liquid.

00:31:39.000 You can get diarrhea just from that.

00:31:40.000 Overdosed on the milk.

00:31:42.000 Yeah.

00:31:43.000 I've never had a milk problem before then, on the pasteurized milk.

00:31:45.000 So now you have a milk problem?

00:31:47.000 How so?

00:31:47.000 I shit every time.

00:31:50.000 Oh, a big, heavy, weird.

00:31:51.000 So it gave you lactose intolerance?

00:31:54.000 I like the milk so much, I don't want to blame the milk, but I will say it happened at the same time.

00:31:58.000 Okay, so is it from then on, are you getting lactose intolerant every time you drink raw milk or regular milk?

00:32:06.000 Regular milk.

00:32:08.000 Maybe my body got used to the beautiful raw milk and it would only have to be.

00:32:11.000 I'm going to have a hard time selling that to the wife.

00:32:13.000 We're getting the raw milk back in the house.

00:32:15.000 Yeah, that might be it, dude.

00:32:16.000 I know that sounds crazy, but that might be it.

00:32:19.000 like your body might prefer real milk and now that it knows what real milk yeah it's like fuck you with this boiled bread but i think this happened It's like your hands feel swollen.

00:32:34.000 I don't personally have any problem with homogenized and pasteurized milk.

00:32:38.000 Like when I drink it, it doesn't make me feel bad.

00:32:39.000 I don't feel great, but I will do it if I have cookies and milk.

00:32:44.000 Oh, cookies and milk.

00:32:45.000 Yeah, but I don't think that you should be able to tell people that they can't sell raw milk.

00:32:50.000 I think you should tell people if you're going to sell raw milk, it has to meet some certain standards.

00:32:55.000 Sure.

00:32:56.000 You have to have certain standards of how you cool it, what you're doing, making sure everything's clean, everything has to be inspected.

00:33:02.000 But they do that with other stuff.

00:33:03.000 That's what USDA inspection meat is.

00:33:05.000 It's definitely put together by big business to crush small people.

00:33:08.000 But they do it that way anyway with meat.

00:33:11.000 This is my point.

00:33:13.000 There's USDA inspections.

00:33:14.000 They have to make sure that the processing place is clean.

00:33:16.000 Everything's supposed to be underneath.

00:33:18.000 And then even then they still do the like, you know, for a, like a burger used to be one cow and they'd grind that bit up and now it's like a thousand cows coming together.

00:33:25.000 I don't think there's laws against that.

00:33:25.000 Right.

00:33:27.000 Right.

00:33:28.000 I don't, I think that if you, the cow thing is a weird thing, like when, and you're getting burgers that have like a thousand cows DNA in it.

00:33:36.000 It is a weird thing.

00:33:37.000 But I mean, it is just meeked, right?

00:33:40.000 But I think those standards are put there by the big corporate.

00:33:42.000 Like I was thinking about like housing zones and districting.

00:33:46.000 Like in Australia, the median house price is a million dollars.

00:33:51.000 You can't buy.

00:33:52.000 No one in my generation is buying a home.

00:33:54.000 It's a weird.

00:33:55.000 There's so much land.

00:33:56.000 There's a lot of stuff.

00:33:57.000 You should just be able to like whip up a slum with your bros.

00:34:01.000 You go to a valley where no one is and you all live in a, that would be better to some extent rather than like renting in a horrible thing forever.

00:34:08.000 You used to be able to just like build a horrible thing.

00:34:12.000 You know, there was no building regulations.

00:34:14.000 Sometimes the ceiling would collapse and people would die.

00:34:16.000 So you think that's better to have no regulations?

00:34:19.000 Yeah.

00:34:20.000 Really?

00:34:21.000 Yes.

00:34:21.000 But that's how like stadiums collapse on people in third world countries.

00:34:25.000 No doubt bad things will also happen.

00:34:27.000 No, that's a dumb idea.

00:34:28.000 I'm not saying no regulation.

00:34:29.000 All right.

00:34:30.000 I'm going to walk back no regulation.

00:34:31.000 But it would be nice if the regulation was somehow written just with the safety in mind and not so that I mean there are insane like there are buildings up now that are perfectly safe that wouldn't pass code if they were built today.

00:34:31.000 Okay.

00:34:42.000 You couldn't build them again now.

00:34:44.000 Why wouldn't they pass code?

00:34:45.000 Because they do things like the door has to be this far away from the stairs.

00:34:49.000 The ceiling has to be this height.

00:34:51.000 It needs eight fire beeping detectors.

00:34:56.000 Yeah.

00:34:56.000 And the same way that, you know, like you can't cut hair without getting a degree.

00:35:00.000 You need like a certificate to be a hairdresser.

00:35:03.000 And they go, this is to make hair cutting safer.

00:35:06.000 But like people were cutting hair without.

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00:36:40.000 Okay, cutting hair is not as big an issue.

00:36:42.000 I think we should go back to the houses.

00:36:43.000 All right, go ahead.

00:36:44.000 Like, if you want to save lives, you want houses that you can escape in the case of a fire.

00:36:52.000 And if you don't hold the builder accountable, the person who's making that house, even if they're making it for themselves, they will then sell that house to someone else most likely.

00:37:02.000 And that person will not be in a house that's necessarily the safest it could be.

00:37:08.000 It just makes sense.

00:37:10.000 It would result in big problems.

00:37:11.000 It makes sense.

00:37:12.000 But it makes sense.

00:37:13.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:37:14.000 It makes sense.

00:37:15.000 Listen, when I was a kid, I grew up in construction sites.

00:37:18.000 My father was an architect.

00:37:20.000 My stepdad was an architect.

00:37:21.000 When I was real young, I got to see real shitty construction, how dangerous it is when people fuck around, don't follow code.

00:37:31.000 How many shady guys do a bad job?

00:37:34.000 How many people try to use lesser materials than they're supposed to be used?

00:37:38.000 It's constant.

00:37:39.000 And if you don't have regulation, you put people's lives at stake.

00:37:44.000 I don't think America has the same problem with regulation here because you guys seem to be able to build houses.

00:37:50.000 Well, we have a lot of regulations, though.

00:37:53.000 It's a giant point of contention with people.

00:37:56.000 There's a way to do it in a way that is just to help industry make house prices stay high.

00:38:00.000 Well, that's true, too.

00:38:02.000 Both things can be true.

00:38:04.000 I think there's definitely people that take advantage of regulation, and there's definitely people that most likely stifle other businesses' growth through promotion of regulation.

00:38:15.000 That's probably true, too.

00:38:17.000 But also, like, for some stuff, like for safety stuff in homes, you fucking need regulation because if you sell it to my mom and she doesn't know how anything works, and then the house catches on fire, this would also be bad.

00:38:28.000 Yeah, it's just do it the right way.

00:38:30.000 They know how to do it the right way.

00:38:32.000 People have established a system.

00:38:33.000 Now, there's a bunch of shit that's arbitrary, that gets aesthetic, and I'm not in favor of that.

00:38:38.000 When people get to decide what the front of your house should look like or what color you paint it.

00:38:44.000 You can make something safer forever, though, and there's no limit.

00:38:46.000 There's no like there's no zero that you can reach of safety.

00:38:50.000 Yeah, but there comes a point where the effort goes up to the extent where it's not.

00:38:54.000 No, but you hit a reasonable level, and then you stop, and that's what the regulations say.

00:38:57.000 We never stop.

00:38:58.000 I mean, I think with driver's licenses, you should have some test for competency to drive a car.

00:39:04.000 100%.

00:39:05.000 It should be something.

00:39:06.000 I mean, in Australia, when I was trying to get, I didn't get my license until I was like 27 because it took forever.

00:39:10.000 Like, you've got to get 100 hours registered.

00:39:12.000 You've got to do a weird test.

00:39:13.000 I got a driver's license in Ohio where I don't think road fatalities are that much higher than the rest of the world.

00:39:19.000 And you get in the car, you drive around the block, the guy goes, you know how to operate this vehicle.

00:39:24.000 We're going to say it's not going to cost $1,000.

00:39:28.000 It's more straightforward.

00:39:30.000 There's a balance to be gotten right.

00:39:33.000 100%.

00:39:34.000 I think you're 100% right.

00:39:35.000 I relish in America that you're closer to the freedom side of things.

00:39:39.000 100%.

00:39:40.000 Definitely much more than Australia is.

00:39:42.000 And you got to see that during the pandemic, too.

00:39:44.000 But the thing is, there's a difference between over-regulation and Wild West, right?

00:39:52.000 There's like a fine line.

00:39:53.000 There's a comfortable middle.

00:39:55.000 And I think that middle has to be fought for because I think it really is important to have people that are actually experts, that their job is to make sure that someone builds a house correctly.

00:40:06.000 Go and look and make sure you do.

00:40:07.000 But then again, you open the door, the possibility that that inspector guy is a douchebag, and then he's got a chip on his shoulder, and he's got a big fucking ego, and people bribe him.

00:40:17.000 And, you know, there's always a possibility of that kind of stuff happening too, where people love to have control over people.

00:40:24.000 They love to tell you you can't build.

00:40:26.000 They love to tell you you got to repaint your house because the color doesn't match our community.

00:40:31.000 How do you check that?

00:40:33.000 Other than everyone having a gun and getting ready to a simmering level of violence and revolution.

00:40:38.000 You got to fight back before they ever get to that point.

00:40:41.000 It's real hard to regain ground once someone takes ground with like ridiculous legislation.

00:40:46.000 Like look, they've been trying to legalize weed in this country for fucking 50 years and they barely put a dent in it.

00:40:51.000 I don't know.

00:40:54.000 They've only done it on a state level.

00:40:55.000 But the point is, it's like once you lose rights.

00:40:59.000 You know, like if they tried to, if marijuana was legal just like alcohol and all of a sudden they tried to make it illegal, people would riot in the streets.

00:41:06.000 Like, what are you doing?

00:41:08.000 You can't do that because it wouldn't make sense.

00:41:10.000 People would be furious.

00:41:11.000 But once it's done, even if it's the same exact situation, the same exact data, the same exact safety profile, the same exact number of people using it in the country, it's just, it's been fucked because it got put into this weird position.

00:41:27.000 But you guys, you got prohibition somehow.

00:41:30.000 You got alcohol taken off the streets for bad, and it lasted a long time, and it led directly into marijuana prohibition.

00:41:39.000 Yeah.

00:41:40.000 Same exact people.

00:41:41.000 But you just need to find something to have prohibition against.

00:41:43.000 How about cartel prohibition?

00:41:44.000 How about that?

00:41:45.000 You know, how about fentanyl?

00:41:47.000 Stop thinking about things.

00:41:49.000 But then you find out, like, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, a minute.

00:41:52.000 There's a lot tied to this.

00:41:53.000 It's like the alcohol lobby doesn't want marijuana to be legalized.

00:41:57.000 So they fight against it, and they get politicians that are on their side.

00:42:00.000 Hey, Ralph, you're going to vote for this issue on our side.

00:42:03.000 That's the way Ralph came over.

00:42:05.000 Ralph Nader?

00:42:05.000 Ralph?

00:42:06.000 No, no, no, not that guy.

00:42:08.000 He doesn't do that.

00:42:09.000 But, you know, that's part of the problem, too, man.

00:42:11.000 It's like there's a lot of money involved in keeping it illegal.

00:42:14.000 And you're like, Jesus Christ But at least you can have I think America's one of the only countries that primaries You don't have to do it.

00:42:26.000 They wouldn't even allow it for the Democrats.

00:42:28.000 To primary?

00:42:29.000 For the last election.

00:42:30.000 At the presidential level, they're more uptight.

00:42:30.000 There was not even.

00:42:33.000 What does that mean?

00:42:34.000 They got the super delegates and they got secret emails and it's not good.

00:42:38.000 But the fact that you could even have a system to fuck up is, I think, unique to America.

00:42:43.000 Like in Britain.

00:42:44.000 You can stick with the system.

00:42:45.000 The party picks who the person is.

00:42:47.000 And if you're in the party, you get a huge benefit.

00:42:50.000 Oh, yeah.

00:42:50.000 That you can't have like a grassroots.

00:42:51.000 You can't have like the branch of the party go, we're putting forward a guy who's, we're going to primary somebody.

00:42:56.000 You really can primary people in America.

00:42:58.000 Yes.

00:42:58.000 You can, sort of, but not for president.

00:43:01.000 Not last time.

00:43:03.000 And they don't let certain people in the primaries.

00:43:05.000 Like they're keeping RFK Jr. out of the primaries.

00:43:08.000 Yes.

00:43:08.000 And then running as an independent is very bad.

00:43:11.000 But that's not good.

00:43:12.000 I'm not saying you're living up to it.

00:43:13.000 I'm not saying you're living up to the standards you said, but you're also the only ones who there's even like people go, we should be able to do it.

00:43:19.000 People wanted Trump to lose so badly they were willing to throw democracy out the window.

00:43:25.000 That's kind of what it is.

00:43:26.000 I mean, kind of what it is.

00:43:29.000 If that was coming from the Republican side, people would have been outraged.

00:43:32.000 To do it in the name of democracy was very weird.

00:43:35.000 It's so wild.

00:43:38.000 It's like my first week here, there was a Biden speech where he was talking about how violence has no, he was like harping on about January 6th and stuff.

00:43:44.000 And he was saying violence has no place in the American system.

00:43:47.000 But then the example he gave was the American Revolution.

00:43:50.000 Like, I think that gets, you're meant to have, I think Benjamin Franklin wanted everyone having an armed uprising every like 12 years or something to wipe the slate clean.

00:43:59.000 Yeah.

00:44:00.000 You're meant to, that's part of democracy.

00:44:02.000 Oh, do you know about Castro?

00:44:04.000 What about him?

00:44:06.000 I'm in a big Wikipedia wormhole about Castro.

00:44:08.000 I didn't know that he hid that he was a communist until he took he wasn't a communist or he kept that quiet.

00:44:14.000 He was like a middle-class revolutionary and then his brother was a commie, but he was like, he didn't come out and say he was a communist until later.

00:44:22.000 And the CIA helped him.

00:44:23.000 I've been reading Castro's.

00:44:24.000 The CIA helped him take over.

00:44:26.000 It looks like the CIA might have been.

00:44:27.000 And then towards the end, they said, we've got to get out of this.

00:44:29.000 This is no good.

00:44:31.000 They really, they changed horses.

00:44:33.000 Jesus Christ.

00:44:34.000 They were really involved on both sides, but they were.

00:44:36.000 Do we do that everywhere?

00:44:40.000 There's one Aussie that you might have done.

00:44:42.000 Gough Whitlam might have been taken out by the CIA.

00:44:46.000 No, he was also a problem, and people were quite happy to have him go.

00:44:50.000 But the Governor General, man, bro.

00:44:53.000 I don't have to go into too much detail.

00:44:55.000 Look it up, Pine Gap.

00:44:56.000 You have a military base in Australia, and he wanted to, like, get rid of it or get off American energy subsidies or something.

00:45:02.000 And then all of a sudden he was removed.

00:45:05.000 Oh, boy.

00:45:06.000 And we haven't rocked that boat again.

00:45:08.000 We are so good at that.

00:45:10.000 Yeah.

00:45:10.000 Between us and the Israelis, the Israelis do the wildest assassinations.

00:45:14.000 Like, did you see one of them that they did with the Iranian generals?

00:45:18.000 Let's make sure that this is true, Jamie.

00:45:20.000 I can get my visa removed for criticizing Israel.

00:45:22.000 No, no, no.

00:45:24.000 I'm impressed by their beautiful assassination.

00:45:26.000 This is not a criticism.

00:45:28.000 This is saying, like, this is one of the most gangster things I've ever seen in my life.

00:45:31.000 They made a fake phone call to all these military leaders and said, everybody's got to meet at the bunker.

00:45:37.000 And then they blew the bunker up.

00:45:39.000 That's very God, Father.

00:45:42.000 It's gangster as fuck.

00:45:43.000 And then you add that to the pagers.

00:45:45.000 They sent pagers out.

00:45:47.000 Didn't they send them out a long time in advance?

00:45:49.000 Yeah.

00:45:51.000 I think so.

00:45:51.000 And they got in on the supply side of it.

00:45:54.000 But they made the pagers and managed to.

00:45:57.000 I mean, you think about how incompetent some forms of our government are.

00:46:02.000 And then how good they are at killing people that they want dead.

00:46:02.000 Yeah.

00:46:06.000 They could do that pretty much in the Midwest.

00:46:08.000 That would be great.

00:46:08.000 I know.

00:46:09.000 If you could move people out of the CIA.

00:46:10.000 That same level of intensity.

00:46:11.000 Well, that's not CIA.

00:46:12.000 That's the Mossad.

00:46:13.000 But that's the same level of intent or the idea for whoever does it over in Israel.

00:46:17.000 But the same level of intensity with other things.

00:46:20.000 You could dominate the world.

00:46:22.000 I mean, we could get a train going.

00:46:24.000 We could fix it.

00:46:25.000 An actual high-speed rail in Texas.

00:46:28.000 I believe in it.

00:46:29.000 Imagine if they took that same kind of ingenuity and tried to fix poverty in America.

00:46:33.000 Brian Simpson said a good, he was on stage for Bottom of the Barrel and he knocked, like someone knocked the barrel over and they all had to pick it up.

00:46:39.000 And he goes, that's the one thing that could go wrong.

00:46:42.000 We should really fix that.

00:46:43.000 We're never going to.

00:46:44.000 It's like America.

00:46:45.000 We have the resources to make sure that never happens and we won't.

00:46:49.000 Yeah.

00:46:50.000 No, we won't.

00:46:51.000 But we put all of our effort into making shit that kills people quicker.

00:46:55.000 That's like the most amount of money, the most amount of effort, other than like consumer goods.

00:47:01.000 I would say also sport.

00:47:02.000 Is it at some weird, very high level here?

00:47:04.000 Because that's war.

00:47:07.000 It is a very militarized society.

00:47:08.000 Everyone's getting ready to.

00:47:11.000 Yeah.

00:47:12.000 Yeah.

00:47:13.000 I mean, football is just military strategy.

00:47:15.000 Have you ever seen Serbians play basketball?

00:47:18.000 Yes.

00:47:19.000 Yeah, I've seen clips of that.

00:47:20.000 I've seen clips of Serbian crowds play basketball.

00:47:25.000 that shit doesn't feel like war, the way the crowd is responding, the cheering, the fucking enthusiasm.

00:47:25.000 They're big.

00:47:30.000 Like, dude, I watch it all the time just for inspiration.

00:47:33.000 They're also the only guys other than black guys who can compete in...

00:47:41.000 Yeah, the giant whites from a warlike culture.

00:47:44.000 No one else.

00:47:44.000 Yeah.

00:47:45.000 Sometimes an Aussie gets through.

00:47:46.000 We've had like two Aussies breakthroughs.

00:47:47.000 Bro, Serbian fighters are terrifying.

00:47:50.000 The dudes from like the Caucas region, like all the guys from Dagas, Georgia, animals.

00:47:57.000 They couldn't get it to work.

00:47:58.000 Dude, someone just printed something or posted something about the UFC's top pound-for-pound list, and six of them are from the Caucas region.

00:48:08.000 Six of them.

00:48:09.000 That seems high.

00:48:11.000 But there's also, sometimes that's like a genetic.

00:48:14.000 Like marathon runners tend to be from one mountain.

00:48:17.000 In Kenya?

00:48:19.000 There's the elite of the elite?

00:48:21.000 Yeah, like people go, black people are good at marathon running.

00:48:22.000 But then when you boil it down, it's like, okay, but 90% of them are from Kenya.

00:48:26.000 And then 90% of those people are from one mountain in Kenya, where the air is very thin.

00:48:32.000 Oh, so they've adapted.

00:48:33.000 There's a book called Taboo, which is about race difference in all sports.

00:48:40.000 And they're like, you're this likely to, you know, you can't be a white corner.

00:48:45.000 Now there is one, I think, but like...

00:48:47.000 But there are, it's very rare and it's very strange.

00:48:48.000 And some of it's social stuff.

00:48:50.000 But a lot of it is.

00:48:53.000 I was reading a thing about Mexicans can't get knocked out.

00:48:57.000 That's not true.

00:48:58.000 No, there must be some, but there's like some gene that is very common in the Mexican population that makes it less likely that you'll be knocked out.

00:49:05.000 What?

00:49:06.000 I think that's why they have lots of boxes.

00:49:06.000 Really?

00:49:10.000 I'm half remembering something I read on Wikipedia late at night.

00:49:13.000 Wouldn't that be crazy if they have such a history of boxing that boxing has somehow or another gotten into their genes to have strong chins?

00:49:19.000 What came first?

00:49:20.000 Yeah, right?

00:49:21.000 The chicken of the egg.

00:49:22.000 Am I right?

00:49:23.000 Any connection between Mexican men and the specific gene ACTN3?

00:49:27.000 Saw a video on how Mexicans are so good at boxing.

00:49:30.000 Mexico has produced 209 champions.

00:49:32.000 That's pretty incredible.

00:49:34.000 Video explains how Mexicans supposedly have a gene that has the ACTN3, which determines endurance and or strength, one or the other.

00:49:41.000 I was wondering, is there any truth to this?

00:49:43.000 What's the answer?

00:49:44.000 This is about what I need to believe something, is a Reddit post from four years ago.

00:49:49.000 No, if you look down there, is this just one person's post?

00:49:52.000 Did someone answer them?

00:49:53.000 Well, I didn't want to get into the answers because you never know.

00:49:55.000 That's where, like his point, you never know where this goes.

00:49:57.000 Right.

00:49:58.000 I was just going to start there and then start.

00:50:01.000 Let's find out if there's anything to that.

00:50:03.000 It's fascinating.

00:50:04.000 But I would wonder, because if you think about a history of boxing, boy, Mexico has such a history of boxing.

00:50:11.000 And also, there's a high-level poverty.

00:50:15.000 So whenever there's a high-level poverty, there's a lot of sports where you don't need a lot of money to play them.

00:50:19.000 Soccer's one.

00:50:21.000 Boxing's another one.

00:50:22.000 You just need gloves and you could just fuck around and guys be good.

00:50:27.000 So I was doing a bit about this and I could never get it to really fly.

00:50:30.000 But like Kyrgyzstan, they have a wife wrestling.

00:50:33.000 You wrestle a woman into a van if you want to marry a woman in Kyrgyzstan.

00:50:38.000 Today?

00:50:38.000 Yeah, they call it Alakachu.

00:50:40.000 Alakachu.

00:50:41.000 And there's a big Wikipedia page on that.

00:50:42.000 You've got to get this lady in the van against her will.

00:50:45.000 And then once she gets in the van, she's so ashamed that she marries you.

00:50:48.000 But like the one sport they're good at at the Olympics is women's freestyle wrestling.

00:50:52.000 They're great at that.

00:50:54.000 So what came first?

00:50:55.000 The medals or the van?

00:50:56.000 Did they have to get good at wrestling because men kept putting them in vans?

00:50:59.000 Or were they so good at wrestling that men were like, let's let them show off their beautiful skills?

00:51:03.000 That's a really good question.

00:51:04.000 I would imagine they were fending off men for a long time.

00:51:09.000 They had a developed technique.

00:51:11.000 I assume it was a horse before it was a van.

00:51:14.000 You can wrestle because they only got the van quite late.

00:51:14.000 Jesus.

00:51:17.000 There's no way.

00:51:18.000 Anyway, one day I'm going to make that fly.

00:51:20.000 That's going to be it.

00:51:21.000 If it's a part of your culture, I would, you know, Jesus.

00:51:25.000 Bride kidnapping.

00:51:25.000 Yes.

00:51:27.000 Jesus Christ.

00:51:29.000 Yeah, there's a lot of vice.

00:51:30.000 We are breaking the law, says Mediev.

00:51:33.000 But everyone understands the tradition and you can't change it.

00:51:36.000 Wow.

00:51:36.000 Member of a local government, a small village outside of Kyrg's capital.

00:51:40.000 How do you say that?

00:51:41.000 Bishkek?

00:51:42.000 Bishkek, you think?

00:51:43.000 I guess it's as good as mine.

00:51:44.000 But everyone here understands is a tradition and you can't change it.

00:51:47.000 Oh, okay.

00:51:48.000 Mediv kidnapped his wife, Elmira, more than 10 years ago.

00:51:52.000 He's one of many Kyrgyz men who have gotten married through the Central Asian practice of bride kidnapping.

00:51:59.000 And they go like 80% of the time it's consensual.

00:52:03.000 But then 20% of the time you're just wrestling a woman into a van against her will.

00:52:07.000 So there are consensual kidnappings where two people know each other and it's kind of role-playing.

00:52:12.000 Then there's full-on off-the-street abductions.

00:52:15.000 Unfortunately, they both look the same.

00:52:17.000 You really want a safe word for that.

00:52:18.000 Whoa.

00:52:19.000 It could be hard to tell if the girl you see crying for her mom and clawing at the faces of her abductors is merely acting out her part for her boyfriend and his family's sake or is actually on her way to being married against her will.

00:52:31.000 Like, what the fuck?

00:52:33.000 Very important to be able to tell the difference, I would say.

00:52:36.000 I don't want to pass judgment on the people of Kyrgyzstan.

00:52:39.000 This is the thing about the world.

00:52:41.000 If you go back like 6,000, 7,000 years ago, it was all like that.

00:52:47.000 You can go back to 100 years ago and everyone, they were footbinding in China.

00:52:50.000 They were having people doing it.

00:52:52.000 Oh, they can't still be binding the face.

00:52:54.000 There are still photos of it.

00:52:55.000 They still footbinding in China?

00:52:57.000 I mean, I don't know how widely practiced it is.

00:52:59.000 They're older ladies.

00:53:00.000 I know when they stopped, but I don't think it was that long ago.

00:53:00.000 Yeah.

00:53:03.000 Like, there's people that are alive right now that have those football.

00:53:06.000 You don't want some filthy peasant foot on your wife.

00:53:06.000 Well, I'm for it.

00:53:09.000 You want a humble, graceful.

00:53:11.000 Bro, you better keep those socks on.

00:53:13.000 They do.

00:53:13.000 I was reading the best.

00:53:14.000 Those feet are weird.

00:53:16.000 They look like they're folded in on themselves.

00:53:18.000 They're so painful to walk on.

00:53:20.000 Right when it must have choked.

00:53:21.000 I think it's Cameroon.

00:53:22.000 They do chest bind.

00:53:23.000 Like, they flatten a woman's...

00:53:25.000 When she starts getting breasts, they like...

00:53:28.000 But what's weird is that it's the Christian progressive people who are doing it.

00:53:32.000 Because the culture is once a woman has breasts, she has to get married and she has to come out of school.

00:53:36.000 So because you love your daughter, you iron the boobs down so that she doesn't have to get married for a couple of years.

00:53:42.000 Isn't that funny?

00:53:45.000 Jesus Christ.

00:53:46.000 They should put an end to it.

00:53:48.000 Oh.

00:53:49.000 Last shoe factory making lotus shoes closed in 1990.

00:53:53.000 Wow.

00:53:54.000 It could be some Michael Jordan lotus shoes out there.

00:53:58.000 Lotus shoes.

00:53:59.000 Oh, my God.

00:54:02.000 So when did this start?

00:54:04.000 1200s or something.

00:54:04.000 That's it.

00:54:06.000 Wow.

00:54:07.000 The 1200s.

00:54:10.000 Look at that lady's foot.

00:54:11.000 Look at that.

00:54:12.000 That is so crazy.

00:54:13.000 I just see beauty.

00:54:15.000 I just see.

00:54:16.000 I see painful pinky toes.

00:54:18.000 How is that lady ever going to take like an aerobics class?

00:54:21.000 Look how it's become the part of the bottom of her foot.

00:54:24.000 That's so crazy.

00:54:26.000 How badly does that fuck with your back?

00:54:28.000 It's so big on that screen.

00:54:30.000 I'd never seen them that big before.

00:54:32.000 Bro, those feet are busted up.

00:54:34.000 But the commies stamped it out mostly.

00:54:37.000 The commies mostly.

00:54:38.000 The commiseration can't work.

00:54:40.000 No, you got to be, yeah.

00:54:41.000 You can't partake in the great glorious revolution.

00:54:44.000 Or the lotus shoe?

00:54:45.000 They are beautiful shoes.

00:54:47.000 Ugh.

00:54:48.000 That's so crazy.

00:54:49.000 You can't buy them.

00:54:50.000 Why not?

00:54:51.000 Went straight to shopping.

00:54:52.000 Is that the same thing?

00:54:52.000 You never know.

00:54:53.000 No, that's a brand name.

00:54:55.000 That's a brand name.

00:54:56.000 You walk into your house, it's all O.J. Simpson merchandise and foot-bound lotus shoes.

00:55:00.000 Actually, the driver is pretty good.

00:55:03.000 That's hilarious.

00:55:05.000 What a fucked-up practice.

00:55:07.000 Yeah, there's a lot of them.

00:55:08.000 Yeah, what about the one where women put plates in their lips?

00:55:11.000 Oh, plates in the lip?

00:55:12.000 The neck extension?

00:55:14.000 I love the ring neck extensions.

00:55:15.000 The ring neck extensions don't even make sense.

00:55:17.000 Like, how does that work?

00:55:20.000 Like, if you take it off, will your head fall off?

00:55:23.000 Like, do you have any muscles left?

00:55:26.000 Do you have any muscles left to support your head?

00:55:28.000 I would doubt it.

00:55:29.000 Like, do you have to keep that on for the rest of the day?

00:55:30.000 I don't think they're meant to be that long.

00:55:32.000 No.

00:55:32.000 I think they're all.

00:55:33.000 Bro, that's fucking insane.

00:55:35.000 That's insane.

00:55:36.000 Just one guy saw a giraffe and he was like, can we do that?

00:55:41.000 Is that a Photoshop?

00:55:42.000 Is that a Photoshop?

00:55:42.000 That's the same person in multiple.

00:55:44.000 That's really legit.

00:55:45.000 But there's a young lady doing it.

00:55:47.000 That can't be Photoshop.

00:55:48.000 That can't be real.

00:55:49.000 That can't be real.

00:55:50.000 That lady's head is 15 feet.

00:55:52.000 That last one's like AI.0 for neck guys.

00:55:54.000 Bro, that's so dark.

00:55:56.000 That's so weird.

00:55:58.000 Like, I don't like that at all.

00:55:59.000 Yeah.

00:56:01.000 Oh, don't show me.

00:56:04.000 Oh, they just keep piling those things on and fitting them.

00:56:10.000 What a weird thing to do to your neck, man.

00:56:12.000 That's got to be a good thing.

00:56:13.000 So we do weird stuff.

00:56:14.000 We inject lips.

00:56:15.000 But, bro, that's crazy.

00:56:16.000 She's got a towel under her chest.

00:56:18.000 But they could be watching it being like, you know, in America, they chop off a little boy's penis and they turn it into a pretend vagina.

00:56:24.000 Isn't that sick and wrong?

00:56:25.000 Well, they probably do that there, too.

00:56:27.000 And I would agree with them.

00:56:28.000 That's a very important part of our culture.

00:56:29.000 I wonder if they do do it.

00:56:32.000 You know, someone in the green room was saying the other day the reason why there's so many ladyboys in Thailand was because being homosexual was illegal.

00:56:43.000 Wasn't it illegal everywhere?

00:56:43.000 Is that true?

00:56:45.000 This person that said it is just, they said it in passing.

00:56:48.000 I don't know if it was true.

00:56:49.000 And I meant to Google it and I totally forgot it until now.

00:56:51.000 I mean, it could be.

00:56:53.000 I'm pretty sure it was illegal all over the place and no one else was doing that.

00:56:58.000 No one else said that there was a particular reaction.

00:57:00.000 Well, you know, that's the thing about what is that fucker?

00:57:05.000 Turing.

00:57:06.000 Alan Turing.

00:57:06.000 Yeah.

00:57:07.000 Alan Turing was the guy who invented the Turing test.

00:57:10.000 And he was gay and they- They gave him hormone blockers.

00:57:15.000 Was it just because he was gay?

00:57:16.000 Yeah.

00:57:17.000 There were so many gay British guys, though.

00:57:19.000 Yeah, but he was like...

00:57:20.000 They had like a long history of...

00:57:26.000 Oh.

00:57:27.000 Yeah, I think he went after a guy's young son.

00:57:29.000 Well, they could always target you for it, though.

00:57:31.000 If they want to get you for something else, they will use that.

00:57:34.000 But I think Byron was off.

00:57:36.000 But he was like hospitalized.

00:57:39.000 Legality of same-sex activity.

00:57:41.000 Private adult, consensual, and non-commercial sodomy was decriminalized in Thailand in 1956.

00:57:48.000 However, same-sex attraction and transgender identities were still seen as socially unacceptable in many cases.

00:57:54.000 Those that gender expression or behavior falls out of social norms are less likely to be tolerated or accepted.

00:58:01.000 So what happened?

00:58:03.000 Just this year, they've allowed same-sex marriage.

00:58:08.000 They've allowed adoption from this year.

00:58:11.000 That's very late to it because I think a lot of gay couples have been going there to get children for a long time.

00:58:16.000 And now they're saying you can have them here.

00:58:17.000 Like, that's a big...

00:58:25.000 It's kind of bizarre.

00:58:26.000 I'm against it.

00:58:27.000 It's very strange.

00:58:28.000 The idea of a surrogate is very odd.

00:58:30.000 Like you're having a baby, but it's not really you having the baby.

00:58:33.000 Like, okay, I get it.

00:58:34.000 If someone can have a baby, the couple wants to have a baby, they hire a surrogate.

00:58:37.000 I get it, it's your genes, it's your baby, but it's still but also there's-I mean, I know Elon has like a lot of kids with different ladies, but then I mean, that's the public one.

00:58:47.000 He's like one of the only public-facing billionaires.

00:58:50.000 There's got to be guys out there who are like, I'm getting 10,000 kids.

00:58:55.000 I'm like, take my cum and move it out across.

00:58:59.000 I'm going to be Genghis Khan with science.

00:59:01.000 Well, guys have done that that are doctors.

00:59:03.000 They just put their own cum?

00:59:04.000 Oh, yeah.

00:59:05.000 There's a breakout case in Adelaide at all.

00:59:07.000 There's a guy who's, there's maybe a thousand siblings in Adelaide.

00:59:10.000 My husband.

00:59:10.000 Oh, man.

00:59:11.000 Every time guys get a chance, they do it.

00:59:13.000 Surrogacy has a long history dating back to ancient times with the real examples found in Babylon and the Bible.

00:59:18.000 While it traditionally involved natural conception, modern surrogacy, including artificial insemination and in vitro fertilization, has been developed through scientific and legal advancements.

00:59:28.000 Okay, but the thing is, it's like they're just playing with words.

00:59:32.000 Let's go back.

00:59:32.000 Hold on.

00:59:34.000 Because they're saying surrogacy for someone having sex with someone and getting them pregnant and having a baby.

00:59:39.000 That's not surrogacy.

00:59:40.000 You got a pregnant with...

00:59:43.000 Yeah, you got another lady pregnant.

00:59:45.000 That's all that is.

00:59:46.000 So what we think of as surrogacy is you taking an embryo and inserting it into another woman's womb, right?

00:59:54.000 That's a completely new thing.

00:59:56.000 And I think it's weird.

00:59:58.000 It's common in like wives of soldiers.

01:00:00.000 The other one's like an agreement.

01:00:02.000 Like if the wife can't get pregnant, but she wants to have a baby and she says, listen, if you fuck my best friend, she'll have the baby and then we'll take care of the baby.

01:00:10.000 And I know that I can't have babies, but you, you know, if that's, if you guys are that kind of swingers and you're down with that, that's up to you.

01:00:20.000 That feels different from science.

01:00:22.000 It's not surrogacy.

01:00:23.000 You just had a baby with a different human.

01:00:24.000 No, surrogacy seems bad and wrong.

01:00:28.000 I'm digging in.

01:00:29.000 But bro, it's going to go to artificial wombs.

01:00:32.000 All right.

01:00:32.000 That's going to be the new one.

01:00:34.000 And whether that's 20 years from now or 50 years from now, you're going to be able to make a baby outside of a human body.

01:00:40.000 It's going to get real freakies.

01:00:42.000 We've got to draw a hot line.

01:00:43.000 I pulled this up.

01:00:44.000 The IVF thing gave me a weird thought.

01:00:46.000 I'm a little stunned thought.

01:00:48.000 It's not possible how Jesus was born.

01:00:50.000 Was it they didn't have any sort of way that we were organization back in the IVF days?

01:00:55.000 Like forgot about it.

01:00:56.000 Could be.

01:00:56.000 Could be that they had that technique.

01:00:58.000 Jamie was the Holy Spirit.

01:01:00.000 I know what they say.

01:01:01.000 I'm just, but like, yeah.

01:01:03.000 Dolphins advocate, obviously.

01:01:05.000 Well, for sure, they could have inserted sperm into her.

01:01:09.000 Without her ever having sex, they could have impregnated.

01:01:12.000 I think there's like dolphins that can do it.

01:01:14.000 If dolphins are on their own for a long time, then an egg can fertilize another egg.

01:01:19.000 What?

01:01:19.000 It doesn't happen often, but there are examples of it.

01:01:21.000 Really?

01:01:22.000 Yes.

01:01:23.000 That's nuts.

01:01:25.000 I think I believe that I've read that.

01:01:27.000 You sure?

01:01:28.000 I've said that loudly and confidently at a party before.

01:01:31.000 It might have been.

01:01:31.000 Mammal?

01:01:32.000 That's homeschool crazy that a mammal could do that.

01:01:35.000 Dolphins don't lay eggs.

01:01:36.000 Oh, inside, I guess.

01:01:37.000 Yeah.

01:01:37.000 Inside of them?

01:01:38.000 I'm so happy for that.

01:01:38.000 They can't do it.

01:01:39.000 I think it's like a couple examples of auto-insemination.

01:01:43.000 So it's like one of the eggs has so much jizz in it that it leaks out and you get a very butch egg.

01:01:48.000 Yeah, you can get it.

01:01:48.000 You get a trans egg.

01:01:49.000 You get maybe one of the eggs is male and it just jizzes on the other egg.

01:01:53.000 You know, it's an early developer.

01:01:55.000 Yeah.

01:01:56.000 Just like comes out of, maybe jizz is like in some of them, out of the box.

01:02:01.000 I think there's virgin birth in nature.

01:02:02.000 It's not common.

01:02:04.000 Well, there's a lot, but it's a lot of fun.

01:02:04.000 There's definitely animals switch genders.

01:02:07.000 The animals, especially like primitive reptilian-type fucking weird animals, there's certain animals that can switch their genders.

01:02:17.000 I think seahorse ladies have a penis.

01:02:20.000 I think so.

01:02:20.000 Am I getting that?

01:02:21.000 You know, hyenas have a penis.

01:02:23.000 Females.

01:02:23.000 No, I didn't know that.

01:02:24.000 Bigger than the males.

01:02:26.000 Just for show?

01:02:27.000 No, they dominate the males.

01:02:28.000 They're bigger than.

01:02:29.000 They peg the males with their female hyenas.

01:02:33.000 They're one of the rare matriarchal mammals.

01:02:35.000 So the females are bigger than the males.

01:02:38.000 They have more testosterone than the males, and they have bigger dicks.

01:02:43.000 And they hold the males down.

01:02:45.000 You want some of this pussy?

01:02:46.000 And then the male has to take his little dick and stick it inside of her big dick.

01:02:50.000 What with the big lady dick just slapping against his belly?

01:02:53.000 Yeah, you want to hear even worse?

01:02:54.000 60% of all hyenas that are born suffocate to death during childbirth.

01:03:00.000 Coming out of that dick.

01:03:01.000 Because they're coming out of the dynamic.

01:03:02.000 They come out of the dick?

01:03:04.000 The vagina's on the tip of the dick.

01:03:06.000 No, it's really a vagina.

01:03:08.000 Come on, hold on.

01:03:08.000 It's a vagina, but it's like a little bit of a dude.

01:03:10.000 Can we see the hyena?

01:03:11.000 Oh, it's bananas.

01:03:13.000 It's bananas.

01:03:14.000 I want to.

01:03:15.000 They call it like a faux penis.

01:03:17.000 Man, I think last time Shane came on here, I think you guys were talking about the trans penises, and then he just kept texting me the trans penis.

01:03:23.000 Oh, he's horrible at that.

01:03:25.000 Just wake up in the middle of the night and show these skin graft scars.

01:03:25.000 He's horrible.

01:03:29.000 You're like, what am I looking at?

01:03:30.000 Why is it so much bigger than mine?

01:03:32.000 Why can't you have a humble penis?

01:03:34.000 I've got to see.

01:03:35.000 Wow.

01:03:36.000 Yeah.

01:03:36.000 All right.

01:03:37.000 So female hyenas have this giant fake dick.

01:03:41.000 Yeah.

01:03:41.000 Ah!

01:03:42.000 They have to put their penis.

01:03:42.000 It's huge.

01:03:44.000 The boys have to put their dicks in.

01:03:46.000 And that's how the babies come out of that.

01:03:46.000 Exactly.

01:03:48.000 A lot of the babies die on the way out.

01:03:50.000 We've got to destroy all the hyenas.

01:03:52.000 60%, I think.

01:03:53.000 I think that's the number.

01:03:55.000 Let's make sure that that's the correct number.

01:03:57.000 I'm pretty sure it is.

01:03:58.000 The hyena people will be furious if they're not.

01:03:59.000 60% suffocate during childbirth.

01:04:03.000 And then on top of that, then they fight over who gets the nipple.

01:04:07.000 And some of them get killed.

01:04:09.000 Well, that's why they're so unhappy all the time.

01:04:11.000 Of the Lion King.

01:04:12.000 They're just in the most ruthless environment, and they're not the biggest animals.

01:04:18.000 18% mortality.

01:04:19.000 First-time mother, that's the mother die.

01:04:22.000 Oh, 9% to 18%, the mother dies.

01:04:25.000 Jesus Christ.

01:04:27.000 That's crazy.

01:04:29.000 Got eyes out.

01:04:30.000 Could you imagine 80% of the women dying because they're giving birth?

01:04:34.000 Yeah, 60% of all spotted hyena cubs die in the early stages of life, especially from the first litter.

01:04:41.000 Some scientific observations place the survival rate of firstborn cubs at around 40% or less.

01:04:47.000 Wow.

01:04:48.000 So sibilicide is huge.

01:04:50.000 Siblicide is very huge.

01:04:51.000 They fight to the death over little nipples.

01:04:56.000 And like stepdads are not common in the animal kingdom.

01:04:59.000 Well, that's also why female hyenas, I think, are bigger.

01:05:03.000 They're going to protect.

01:05:04.000 Yeah, I think they're there to because the men hyenas are bitches, and the men probably eat the babies because that happens in other communities, like that happens in bears.

01:05:13.000 In the bear world, female tigers, or female bears, rather, the reason why when you stumble upon a female bear, she's ready to fuck you up.

01:05:22.000 Like, that's the worst thing that can happen in the woods.

01:05:24.000 You stumble upon a female bear with her cubs, you're in real trouble.

01:05:28.000 If you stumble upon a male and he might, he might not have any interest in you at all.

01:05:33.000 But if you stumble, if you're too close to the cubs, if like she is in front and the cubs are behind and you're behind them, you just run away.

01:05:42.000 Bro, you might not have the time.

01:05:45.000 She might just come for you and you can't do a goddamn thing about it because she's dealing with male grizzlies eating her cubs all the time.

01:05:53.000 So she's always on 10.

01:05:56.000 I mean, if we go to Yosemite, should we bring a gun?

01:05:59.000 You shouldn't go off trail for sure.

01:06:02.000 You shouldn't go off trail.

01:06:03.000 You should definitely bring bear spray if you're anybody.

01:06:05.000 But Yosemite is in California, right?

01:06:08.000 I've fucked this up before.

01:06:09.000 Yellowstone has the grizzlies.

01:06:11.000 It's Wyoming.

01:06:11.000 Yosemite has the black bears.

01:06:14.000 Black bears generally aren't as dangerous as grizzly bears.

01:06:18.000 Are there grizzly bears in California?

01:06:20.000 Even though it's the flag, the state flag.

01:06:20.000 No, there's not.

01:06:23.000 It's the bear on the flag.

01:06:24.000 The flag misled me.

01:06:25.000 Well, they killed too many people and they killed them all.

01:06:29.000 But they've got coyotes still running around.

01:06:31.000 Coyotes don't really kill people, though.

01:06:32.000 They kill your cats and dogs.

01:06:34.000 Mountain lions occasionally kill people, but grizzlies were killing a lot.

01:06:37.000 I feel like you guys have way more animals that kill people than we do.

01:06:40.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

01:06:41.000 People talk about our animals all the time.

01:06:42.000 We've got a snake and we've got a spider.

01:06:44.000 No.

01:06:44.000 You want to watch out for.

01:06:45.000 You got saltwater crocodiles, motherfucker.

01:06:47.000 Yeah, but if you stay away from the crocs- You just keep away from far north Queensland.

01:06:58.000 We were happy to give that one up to the Japanese.

01:07:00.000 We made a deal that if the Japanese invaded, we'd let them have the saltwater crocodile part of the country.

01:07:04.000 Have you seen Bob Cadder?

01:07:06.000 This is like our best clip from a politician.

01:07:09.000 He's talking about gay marriage and he turns it into talking about crocodiles.

01:07:12.000 No.

01:07:13.000 Oh, Bob Cadder, crocodile, is my favourite.

01:07:17.000 He wins his Far North Queensland seat every year.

01:07:19.000 He's not in any party.

01:07:20.000 But he's like, let a thousand blossoms bloom.

01:07:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:25.000 Let me hear it.

01:07:28.000 I mean, you know, people are entitled to their sexual proclivities.

01:07:34.000 I mean, let there be a thousand blossoms bloom as far as I'm concerned.

01:07:40.000 But I ain't spending any time on it because in the meantime, every three months, a person is torn to pieces by a crocodile in North Queensland.

01:07:50.000 He's the man.

01:07:52.000 He needs more power in our government.

01:07:53.000 Every three months.

01:07:55.000 That's a person that's torn apart by a crocodile in North Queensland.

01:07:58.000 Yeah, true.

01:07:59.000 I believe it.

01:08:00.000 Jesus Christ.

01:08:01.000 Well, there's a lot of people.

01:08:03.000 There's a lot of...

01:08:07.000 They swim out of the waters.

01:08:08.000 Yeah.

01:08:08.000 I want you to imagine this.

01:08:09.000 What if every three months someone got killed by a werewolf?

01:08:12.000 Would you still go out at night?

01:08:14.000 Yeah.

01:08:17.000 Every three months someone gets killed by a werewolf in your town.

01:08:21.000 I mean, but how many people are dying on the roads every day?

01:08:24.000 I understand.

01:08:25.000 But there's something uniquely terrified about getting eaten.

01:08:28.000 The Crocs never got Steve Irwin.

01:08:31.000 That was the Rays.

01:08:32.000 I'm more upset by the Rays.

01:08:34.000 Well, he knew how to handle the Crocs.

01:08:35.000 What's that?

01:08:36.000 Four deaths since 2020 and nine non-fatal attacks.

01:08:38.000 See, that's bullshit.

01:08:41.000 You just didn't die.

01:08:42.000 You got ripped apart, though.

01:08:43.000 Nine.

01:08:44.000 Yeah, but that's not three.

01:08:46.000 That's not like what he was saying.

01:08:48.000 It's come down.

01:08:48.000 He was saying that.

01:08:49.000 What was his number that he was saying?

01:08:51.000 He said three a month.

01:08:52.000 What did he say?

01:08:53.000 It was also seven years.

01:08:53.000 Three a month?

01:08:54.000 Every three months.

01:08:55.000 Oh, every three months?

01:08:56.000 We might have clamped down on it.

01:08:57.000 That's only four a year.

01:08:58.000 Yeah.

01:09:00.000 But also, there's, you know, you're not walking through the city and going, the crocs are going to come and get you.

01:09:06.000 Yeah, but if you go anywhere near a lake and you make the wrong kind of vibrations.

01:09:10.000 Yeah, they were very scared.

01:09:11.000 I went to Cairns once and they were all very scared.

01:09:13.000 They come out so quick.

01:09:15.000 They come out so quick, dude.

01:09:16.000 But also, what a beautiful way to die.

01:09:18.000 Not beautiful at all.

01:09:18.000 If you have to die.

01:09:19.000 Nope, nope.

01:09:20.000 He was eaten by a crocodile.

01:09:21.000 Reptilian evil.

01:09:23.000 The last moments of your life will be horrible energy that you will pass on to the cosmos.

01:09:28.000 You will die in the most horrific way possible.

01:09:31.000 It's not that many.

01:09:31.000 They all fit on two pieces of paper.

01:09:33.000 Yeah, where he's overplaying.

01:09:34.000 He's over 185.

01:09:35.000 These are all the people that have been killed.

01:09:36.000 But again, Cairns, Cairns.

01:09:39.000 Cape York, Cape York.

01:09:40.000 That's up north.

01:09:41.000 So there's a lot of non-fatals in there.

01:09:43.000 Or dude, very few people here.

01:09:45.000 No one, you know.

01:09:46.000 We've got Cairns.

01:09:47.000 That would be the biggest city up north.

01:09:49.000 Are those as large as the Nile crocodiles, the saltwater crocodiles?

01:09:54.000 I don't know how big a Nile crocodile is.

01:09:57.000 I only just saw an alligator for the first time.

01:09:59.000 They're not as scary.

01:10:00.000 Well, you've got to see a big one, dude.

01:10:02.000 Lady just got killed in Orlando by one last week.

01:10:04.000 Saltwater, larger, more vicious.

01:10:06.000 Saltwaters are larger than the Niles.

01:10:08.000 More aggressive.

01:10:09.000 Bro, you have the most aggressive crocodiles in the world.

01:10:11.000 We got them and we got Kangaroos are so friends.

01:10:15.000 You have the most aggressive dinosaur in the world in your country.

01:10:21.000 That's why to get torn apart by one would be an honor.

01:10:24.000 Yeah.

01:10:26.000 You know what I would like to do?

01:10:27.000 I'd like to get together with some special forces dudes and kill those motherfuckers from the air.

01:10:32.000 Okay, everybody thinks you have to keep them around.

01:10:35.000 You got to keep them around.

01:10:36.000 Yeah, I think maybe we keep three in a zoo and everybody else is dead.

01:10:39.000 They're beautiful, Christian.

01:10:40.000 Turn them into shoes.

01:10:41.000 You know about the cage of death?

01:10:43.000 What's that?

01:10:43.000 You can get into a cage of death.

01:10:45.000 Yeah, isn't that good?

01:10:46.000 Don't you show me that?

01:10:47.000 That's a good cage.

01:10:48.000 That's a strong cave.

01:10:49.000 You'd be fine.

01:10:50.000 No, no, no, people.

01:10:51.000 Why do you want to do that?

01:10:53.000 Don't want to do.

01:10:54.000 Jesus, that is such a monster.

01:10:56.000 Such a fucking heartless monster.

01:10:57.000 If that thing opened up somehow accidentally, it would love to eat you.

01:11:03.000 What is wrong with people?

01:11:05.000 He's got scratches on them, too.

01:11:06.000 God.

01:11:06.000 He's trying to get in there.

01:11:08.000 Look at that thing.

01:11:09.000 It's so big.

01:11:11.000 They're so terrifying, dude.

01:11:12.000 I mean, it is a fucking monster.

01:11:15.000 And that's not even a big one, man.

01:11:17.000 I have a friend.

01:11:19.000 His name is Jim Shockey, and he's a professional hunter.

01:11:21.000 He lives in Canada.

01:11:23.000 And they sent him to Africa to shoot crocodiles because they were killing so many people in this one village.

01:11:30.000 And he said when he got there, there was this one particular big croc that was there that was just killing everybody.

01:11:36.000 Everybody was like missing a foot.

01:11:38.000 Everybody had one arm.

01:11:40.000 It was Like the jaws, but for crocodile?

01:11:41.000 Yeah, he said it was crazy.

01:11:42.000 It's like so many people in this town had been bitten by crocodiles.

01:11:47.000 So they had developed this system where they put posts in the ground in the water so that they knew the crocodiles couldn't get into that, right?

01:11:55.000 So what the crocodiles did was go around it and sneak into the water when the people weren't around.

01:12:00.000 They're impressive, beautiful.

01:12:01.000 Have you seen in India when they get like a puma in the village and everyone's standing on the roof and the puma's like running around the streets and the guys are trying to throw a net on it?

01:12:08.000 Yeah, nuts.

01:12:10.000 Is that it?

01:12:11.000 Is that a big crack?

01:12:13.000 Oh my God.

01:12:14.000 It's over 20 feet.

01:12:15.000 Is that a saltwater one?

01:12:16.000 It looks bigger because they're very small people.

01:12:18.000 That's so big, dude.

01:12:20.000 That's so big.

01:12:21.000 That's such a dinosaur.

01:12:24.000 And then we turn it into handbags and shoes.

01:12:26.000 Thank God.

01:12:27.000 I went down a rabbit hole the other day.

01:12:29.000 It's so funny that people want to keep them around.

01:12:31.000 I know.

01:12:32.000 I want to be real clear.

01:12:33.000 I don't want them to go extinct for sure.

01:12:36.000 Mostly just fucking around here.

01:12:37.000 They shouldn't be in residential.

01:12:39.000 It is weird that we tolerate a certain amount of monsters.

01:12:43.000 It's weird.

01:12:45.000 To reintroduce them seems nutty.

01:12:47.000 Oh.

01:12:47.000 When people are bringing the wolves back.

01:12:49.000 Bro, the thing they're doing in Colorado is so stupid because this is what they did.

01:12:53.000 Colorado took these wolves from Oregon that had been preying on cattle and then they moved them into Colorado where they preyed on cattle.

01:13:02.000 Yeah.

01:13:03.000 And then the people whose cattle they were preying on got pissed off.

01:13:07.000 So they took a bunch of them and removed them and put them in Pitkin County over by Aspen where they prey on cattle.

01:13:15.000 It's the dumbest thing.

01:13:16.000 Everyone's like, oh, it's going to be a good idea.

01:13:17.000 But people won the kill industry?

01:13:19.000 No, they're dumb.

01:13:20.000 They don't know what they're doing.

01:13:21.000 It's wildlife.

01:13:22.000 It's ballot box.

01:13:25.000 No, it's the governor.

01:13:26.000 The governor and his husband wanted to do it this way.

01:13:29.000 They wanted to reintroduce wolves.

01:13:30.000 But wolves were already on their way to being reintroduced to Colorado.

01:13:34.000 They were doing it naturally.

01:13:35.000 There's wolves.

01:13:36.000 There's a pack of wolves that was established that had already made their way to Colorado.

01:13:39.000 Colorado borders Wyoming.

01:13:41.000 Wyoming has wolves.

01:13:42.000 So they were getting wolves.

01:13:44.000 Is this a tourism thing?

01:13:45.000 Are they just like a bad thing?

01:13:46.000 They just know.

01:13:48.000 Look, there's some real thought that could be put into whether or not an ecosystem should be balanced with the proper amount of predators.

01:13:58.000 And if you, the human race, were responsible for killing off this one major predator that was in this ecosystem, that seems irresponsible.

01:14:08.000 And maybe we can bring that animal back and it would balance out the system.

01:14:13.000 This is the thought process.

01:14:14.000 The problem with that is these animals have become accustomed to just killing cattle.

01:14:19.000 They did it in Oregon, then they did it in Colorado, and then they're doing it where they are now.

01:14:23.000 And everybody wants to pretend it's not happening.

01:14:25.000 They want to pretend they didn't do a giant fuck up.

01:14:28.000 These are not wild wolves that are going to go out and hunt down elk and make the population smaller.

01:14:35.000 No, they're used to preying on cattle.

01:14:38.000 So they're killing cows all the time.

01:14:40.000 But there's a lot of people who want to hunt, right?

01:14:43.000 There are people who want to take out the animals that the wolves would have taken out.

01:14:46.000 Well, yeah, but you should have a balance.

01:14:49.000 You should have mountain lions.

01:14:51.000 The wild can't, you can't sterilize certain aspects of the ecosystem because they're dangerous to you.

01:14:58.000 But what you shouldn't do is take these animals and then move them into an area where nothing is prepared.

01:15:05.000 The ranchers aren't prepared.

01:15:06.000 No one warned them.

01:15:08.000 They moved them to that area without letting anybody know.

01:15:11.000 One of my friends has a ranch there.

01:15:13.000 They released some of the wolves on his property.

01:15:16.000 And these wolves, now all of a sudden, wolves that are used to killing cattle are killing cattle down there.

01:15:22.000 Yeah, because it would be way easier.

01:15:23.000 They're easier.

01:15:24.000 They're all together.

01:15:25.000 They don't run away.

01:15:27.000 They stand still, but then you kill the cows.

01:15:30.000 Like in Britain, they got rid of all the wolves.

01:15:32.000 They got rid of all the wolves everywhere, dude.

01:15:35.000 There's a reason why they did it.

01:15:36.000 It was because wolves are like the most intelligent.

01:15:39.000 They're like psychic super predators.

01:15:41.000 They're the most intelligent of all predators.

01:15:43.000 They're the only predator that we have in North America that hunts in a pack.

01:15:48.000 And they're big.

01:15:49.000 You're dealing with a 100-pound plus animal that hunts in a pack.

01:15:53.000 They're bringing back the dire wolf as well?

01:15:56.000 Well, so that's different.

01:15:57.000 Okay.

01:15:58.000 This is not a woman.

01:16:01.000 They're not going to put it in the wild.

01:16:03.000 They brought it back to show that this gene editing that they do for animals is legitimate.

01:16:10.000 So to do that, they've reproduced an animal from the genes of one of them.

01:16:15.000 What was it?

01:16:16.000 What were the numbers, Jamie?

01:16:16.000 One was like 50,000 years old and one was like 70,000 years old when Beth Shapiro was in here.

01:16:22.000 The lady who's like the head geneticist and brilliant woman, she was explaining it all to us.

01:16:27.000 And it's just, the whole thing is bananas.

01:16:30.000 So they essentially didn't even know what they were going to look like until they came out.

01:16:33.000 Is the hope that we get the dinosaurs?

01:16:35.000 Are they trying to build Jurassic Park?

01:16:37.000 100% that's going to come if they have DNA from a dinosaur.

01:16:41.000 I don't think they do.

01:16:42.000 I don't think it's possible.

01:16:44.000 I think it's too degraded when it's that old that you don't find like, but maybe they'll find something.

01:16:48.000 But the Tasmanian Devils, definitely.

01:16:50.000 They're always trying to bring that back.

01:16:52.000 No, the Tasmanian tiger.

01:16:53.000 Sorry, the Tiger.

01:16:53.000 Tasmanian Devils.

01:16:54.000 Tasman Devils is, they're around.

01:16:56.000 That's a weird one because they get cancer from biting each other.

01:16:59.000 they get face cancer.

01:17:04.000 Do they really?

01:17:05.000 Yeah, some of them are.

01:17:05.000 Probably from Silas.

01:17:07.000 Oh, they're very cute.

01:17:08.000 They're very...

01:17:09.000 It's the...

01:17:14.000 Those Tasmanian devils, they bite each other in the face and they get these horrible face deformities.

01:17:19.000 It's like communicable cancer.

01:17:22.000 It's like cancer that they transfer to each other.

01:17:24.000 It's really weird.

01:17:26.000 Did they have that before we got there?

01:17:28.000 I don't think it has anything to do with us.

01:17:31.000 I think it has something to do with whatever the fuck is in their mouth.

01:17:35.000 You know, it could be just all the horrible shit that they eat.

01:17:39.000 Yeah.

01:17:39.000 And then they bite each other and their teeth are probably rotten and disgusting.

01:17:44.000 I don't know.

01:17:45.000 Why do Tasmanian tiger, or devils, rather, give each other cancer?

01:17:50.000 But were they...

01:17:50.000 Let's find out.

01:17:54.000 What are we going to brush their teeth?

01:17:56.000 Can't do anything.

01:17:57.000 Unless you can come up with a medication that stops It from happening like an antibiotic or something.

01:18:02.000 I just don't understand how cancer can be communicable like that.

01:18:06.000 Like, you can just transfer it by biting.

01:18:09.000 Seems crazy.

01:18:11.000 Yeah, if you got covered in a tumor, you wouldn't get cancer, would you?

01:18:14.000 Okay.

01:18:15.000 Devil facial tumor disease.

01:18:17.000 It's a contagious fatal cancer that primarily affects the face and the mouth area of Tasmanian devils.

01:18:24.000 Diseases significantly impacted the wild population, posing a serious threat to their survival.

01:18:30.000 What is it?

01:18:31.000 DFTD is a transmissible cancer, meaning it spreads through the transfer of living cancer cells, primarily via biting.

01:18:38.000 They didn't notice till the 90s.

01:18:40.000 Wow.

01:18:40.000 The tumors usually start as lesions or patches on the mouth and on the face and grow into large, disfiguring masses.

01:18:46.000 The disease is almost universally fatal.

01:18:48.000 Whoa.

01:18:49.000 So we must have done this.

01:18:50.000 We must know something.

01:18:51.000 But if it started in the 90s and now they're going extinct because of it.

01:18:55.000 But that does happen with animals sometimes.

01:18:57.000 But that feels like weird timing that they could be.

01:18:59.000 They were getting by for 100,000 years and then 200 years after Whitey gets there.

01:19:04.000 But it's possible, right?

01:19:06.000 Yeah, that's possible.

01:19:08.000 It's good to be cynical.

01:19:09.000 We're about to name a football team after them.

01:19:12.000 They're a crazy animal.

01:19:13.000 You ever hear the sounds they make?

01:19:14.000 No.

01:19:15.000 Let's play that.

01:19:16.000 Play the sounds of Tasmanian Devil.

01:19:19.000 They sound so cool.

01:19:20.000 Like, he was my favorite character for sure in the Warner Brothers cartoons, The Tasmanian Devil.

01:19:25.000 He'd spin around.

01:19:26.000 He's your favorite.

01:19:27.000 He was fun.

01:19:28.000 Bugs Bunny.

01:19:29.000 When I found out at university, people kept going like, he's black.

01:19:32.000 Do you know he's black?

01:19:33.000 Bugs Bunny's black.

01:19:34.000 That's like a big thing that he was a black-coated character.

01:19:36.000 He's always like relaxed.

01:19:38.000 Oh.

01:19:38.000 And he's got a cool plan that he's working on.

01:19:40.000 He's like a Zootsuit guy from the 20s.

01:19:43.000 Yeah.

01:19:44.000 let me hear some of this Yeah, look, Devil was an easy name to pick.

01:20:08.000 No points for the guy who came up with that.

01:20:11.000 I mean, if you called it anything else, I would be disappointed.

01:20:14.000 I miss our beautiful Australian animals.

01:20:18.000 I miss the trees.

01:20:19.000 I got to go through California and see all the gum trees again.

01:20:23.000 I didn't see gum trees in forever.

01:20:24.000 Look at that.

01:20:25.000 That's so nice.

01:20:27.000 What a ferocious little fucker.

01:20:28.000 Something gets in the blood where it's like, that's what I think an animal should look like.

01:20:31.000 You know what I saw?

01:20:32.000 What do you think foliage should look like?

01:20:33.000 Close recently for a wolverine.

01:20:37.000 Are they real?

01:20:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:20:39.000 No, the real animal.

01:20:40.000 Yeah, it was at a badger.

01:20:42.000 No, it's a badger.

01:20:44.000 It's in the badger family, I think.

01:20:46.000 But I saw one at like this nature preserve when I was on the road.

01:20:49.000 It was pretty interesting, man.

01:20:50.000 You see those little fuckers, like, they're unbelievably ferocious.

01:20:55.000 They scare bears off of carcasses, and they weigh like 50 pounds.

01:20:59.000 This is the year that I've seen the most animals, because I've got kids and we travel around.

01:21:03.000 And I've been to like eight zoos this year.

01:21:05.000 Oh, cool.

01:21:06.000 There's a lot of zoos, but they're...

01:21:09.000 Did you know in New York they had a guy at the zoo?

01:21:11.000 They had a human zoo.

01:21:13.000 What is he fighting here, Jamie?

01:21:14.000 Yes.

01:21:15.000 Wait, that's the Wolverine?

01:21:16.000 Yeah.

01:21:16.000 If we get into animal fight videos, I...

01:21:20.000 I think he pissed himself while that was happening.

01:21:22.000 Of course.

01:21:22.000 He probably pisses himself all over the place.

01:21:24.000 Just probably make himself more ferocious.

01:21:28.000 Like, the wolf gets a hold of him.

01:21:30.000 I've seen mountain lions get a hold of them, and they don't kill them.

01:21:33.000 They're like unbelievably durable.

01:21:35.000 You ever watch the bird and the fish that goes on for like...

01:21:39.000 It's like a heron trying to get a small fish, and they play it in slow motion.

01:21:43.000 and they put classical music behind it.

01:21:45.000 No, I haven't seen that.

01:21:45.000 Animals trying to get away from that.

01:21:47.000 I've watched a lot of those.

01:21:48.000 Animals trying to get away from animals.

01:21:51.000 Running fast across the wilderness.

01:21:52.000 You want them to get away?

01:21:53.000 So your animals, you have a lot of weirdness going on over there, right?

01:21:58.000 Because you have kangaroos, sometimes they get like an infestation, right?

01:22:02.000 Yeah, then they go up in a helicopter and they gun down the kangaroos.

01:22:06.000 What used to kill the kangaroos back in the day?

01:22:09.000 I don't think anything was killing them.

01:22:13.000 So how did they get to the city?

01:22:14.000 I think that might have just been less arable land.

01:22:16.000 Maybe they had like less to eat.

01:22:18.000 Oh.

01:22:19.000 I assume they would starve.

01:22:20.000 But like, I don't think anything kills the emus.

01:22:23.000 We lost all our big predators.

01:22:26.000 The predators aren't dingoes.

01:22:28.000 But dingoes came later.

01:22:29.000 Dingoes, I think, came from India.

01:22:31.000 Yeah, but here's the thing, man.

01:22:33.000 Some kangaroos are like six feet tall.

01:22:35.000 They're fucking huge.

01:22:36.000 But they'll only bother you.

01:22:37.000 There's that one video, the guy with the dog.

01:22:39.000 Right, but what I'm saying is good luck to the dingo.

01:22:42.000 Yeah.

01:22:43.000 These fuckers get big.

01:22:45.000 Well, they're in packs, though.

01:22:46.000 The dingoes are.

01:22:47.000 Oh, so they'll.

01:22:47.000 Yeah.

01:22:48.000 I think they're in packs.

01:22:49.000 Well, they probably don't hunt the big males either, right?

01:22:52.000 Bro, look at all.

01:22:53.000 Fuck, I miss Australia.

01:22:54.000 Do you?

01:22:55.000 Yeah.

01:22:56.000 What do you miss the most?

01:22:58.000 I miss the football.

01:22:59.000 I miss the accent.

01:23:02.000 Look at all these fucking I don't remember that.

01:23:04.000 That doesn't usually happen.

01:23:05.000 We don't usually get together in a demon called It was during COVID when everyone was inside.

01:23:11.000 There was like kangaroos came back into the town.

01:23:13.000 They were jumping about.

01:23:14.000 So this is a mob of kangaroos?

01:23:16.000 That does look like a mob.

01:23:18.000 You'll see them.

01:23:18.000 You'll go on like a nature walk and you'll just see a kangaroo in the distance just looking at you.

01:23:22.000 Jeez.

01:23:22.000 But they're like, you know, they seem friendly and mysterious and then they jump away.

01:23:26.000 So was there like more dingoes all over Australia at one point in time?

01:23:30.000 I think we clamped down on it at some point.

01:23:34.000 Well, there was that lady who lost a baby and she said a dingo got it and no one believed her.

01:23:34.000 Clamped down on the dingo.

01:23:39.000 And now they think the dingo maybe got their baby.

01:23:41.000 But also the dingoes are all in the...

01:23:44.000 Imagine your dingo eating your baby and nobody believes you.

01:23:48.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:23:48.000 Yeah.

01:23:50.000 Not only is it horrible that a dingo ate your baby, but then also you killed your baby.

01:23:54.000 All right, my favourite one is the poet Ted Hughes.

01:23:57.000 He's married to Sylvia Plath.

01:23:58.000 He comes home, she's killed herself in the oven.

01:24:00.000 Oh, it's very sad.

01:24:02.000 She's killed herself in the oven?

01:24:03.000 I don't think he came home.

01:24:04.000 He'd left her by that point for another woman.

01:24:06.000 She gassed herself in the oven.

01:24:07.000 Oh, okay.

01:24:07.000 Then he, I think it's the woman that he runs away with, a couple years later, she also kills herself in the family oven.

01:24:15.000 Oh, okay.

01:24:15.000 His second wife.

01:24:16.000 So like, from the outside, people in the British literary establishment start going, I think he's killing his wives in the oven.

01:24:23.000 You can't have a second oven suicide.

01:24:27.000 That's a form of once type situation.

01:24:29.000 Well, you could if the second wife obsessed about the death of the first wife to the point where.

01:24:35.000 Boy, you'd be careful with wife number three.

01:24:38.000 You'd say we're going electric oven.

01:24:41.000 Well, these are ex-wives, right?

01:24:43.000 Yeah, once they're.

01:24:44.000 I think he was still married to the second one.

01:24:46.000 Oh, okay.

01:24:47.000 He didn't have to leave her, but he.

01:24:48.000 So while they were married, she exed herself like that.

01:24:51.000 Yeah.

01:24:52.000 Yeah.

01:24:52.000 Well, that guy's probably got shitty choice in ladies.

01:24:55.000 I believe it.

01:24:58.000 But he's so good at having the second one in the same way.

01:25:02.000 Yeah, that's an issue.

01:25:03.000 You'd be like, this keeps coming up.

01:25:05.000 Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

01:25:07.000 Yeah.

01:25:08.000 That's the thing about the Clinton body count.

01:25:10.000 People go, if 51 of your friends commit suicide.

01:25:13.000 Very sad.

01:25:14.000 Like, something's going on.

01:25:16.000 That's a giant number.

01:25:17.000 Most people don't have 51 close associates, wax themselves in strange ways.

01:25:22.000 Some people are unlucky.

01:25:25.000 One of the guys hung himself from a tree by extension cord and then shot himself in the chest with a shotgun.

01:25:33.000 Yeah, because he's a hard worker.

01:25:34.000 He was probably a good part of the DNC operation.

01:25:38.000 You didn't want to leave it to chance.

01:25:40.000 Yeah, the mysterious suicide.

01:25:42.000 It's hard not to get into the conspiracy.

01:25:44.000 I try not to have a conspiratorial mindset because I get unhappy.

01:25:47.000 Well, we already talked about what Israel did.

01:25:49.000 They made the fake phone call, told them.

01:25:51.000 But that was only because it was impressive.

01:25:53.000 And I thought it was cool.

01:25:53.000 That's a conspiracy.

01:25:54.000 Right, it is cool.

01:25:55.000 But the beepers, they came out and they said we did it.

01:25:57.000 Both of them are cool, but it's a conspiracy.

01:25:59.000 They conspired to whack somebody.

01:26:01.000 They did conspire.

01:26:02.000 Yeah.

01:26:02.000 And they did it, and they pulled it off.

01:26:04.000 Well, they also, they were getting like the last Nazis for a while.

01:26:09.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:10.000 Over the letter hunting.

01:26:11.000 Hunt them down.

01:26:12.000 50 years later, 60 years later.

01:26:14.000 Hunt them down.

01:26:16.000 You think they'd manage to clear up Hamas quicker?

01:26:19.000 It's one of the weirder things.

01:26:20.000 You ever see that show, Hunting Hitler or Finding Hitler?

01:26:24.000 I've seen shows like that on the History Channel a lot.

01:26:24.000 Nah.

01:26:24.000 Okay.

01:26:26.000 I don't know if I've seen that one.

01:26:27.000 Tim Kennedy was on it.

01:26:29.000 And they all went down to Argentina.

01:26:31.000 And one of the things you find in Argentina is like entire towns where people speak German.

01:26:37.000 Yeah.

01:26:37.000 And so what Well, yeah, right?

01:26:40.000 Miss Looney's guys.

01:26:42.000 And so they found all these photographs of like SS soldiers on the walls in people's houses.

01:26:46.000 Like there was a television show about it.

01:26:49.000 We have a German town in Australia where they say there's a pub with like Nazi stuff on the walls.

01:26:54.000 I've never seen it, but the Germans.

01:26:57.000 There's a Bavarian town where everyone's nice and relaxed and then there's like a Prussian town where people...

01:27:03.000 Also, sometimes you will go around to a German guy's house.

01:27:06.000 They've got an old German family.

01:27:07.000 And then you look over on the mantelpiece and there's a knife there.

01:27:10.000 It's a very special knife.

01:27:11.000 It's like, we can't get rid of it.

01:27:13.000 That's grandpa's knife.

01:27:14.000 The weird thing is like they have full towns down in Argentina that practice Oktoberfest.

01:27:20.000 Yeah.

01:27:21.000 They put on the Lederhosen, the whole deal.

01:27:23.000 Like it's a German town.

01:27:24.000 I think there's something about the black population disappeared.

01:27:29.000 I don't know if this is, I think it might be Argentina.

01:27:32.000 They had like a big black population and then over 100 years, people go, I don't know where they are anymore, but they're not here now.

01:27:39.000 And I think it coincides with, maybe it was before the Nazis got there.

01:27:43.000 But that's a weird, that's a weird rabbit hole.

01:27:45.000 There's not a lot about it.

01:27:46.000 There's so many rabbit holes.

01:27:48.000 Some people say like they just integrated and.

01:27:50.000 And what?

01:27:51.000 Whitened up?

01:27:52.000 Like it's kids after kids and you can't see it.

01:27:54.000 But like they had a big black population.

01:27:57.000 Am I right?

01:27:58.000 I need that one.

01:27:59.000 I don't want to just say that and have it swift.

01:28:01.000 I don't have to look that one up.

01:28:02.000 But like it disappeared.

01:28:04.000 And this is Argentina?

01:28:06.000 It could be Europe.

01:28:07.000 Black Genocide, the true history of the whitening of Argentina.

01:28:11.000 Thank you, Travel Noir.

01:28:13.000 I've never heard of that website, but I assume it's a.

01:28:16.000 Whoa.

01:28:19.000 Today, many Argentini hold the erroneous belief that Argentina neither participated in the slave trade nor witnessed the presence of Afro-Argentinians as if they had left the country naturally.

01:28:32.000 Such misconceptions persist despite historical evidence.

01:28:35.000 Former Argentine President Carlos Menem once shockingly declared in Argentina, blacks do not exist.

01:28:43.000 That is a Brazilian problem.

01:28:47.000 No one's bringing that up.

01:28:49.000 Less than two centuries ago, black individuals compromised over a third of Argentina's population in 1800.

01:28:49.000 Whoa.

01:28:58.000 That seems like a question.

01:29:00.000 That seems like someone should find out what happened there.

01:29:03.000 Holy shit.

01:29:05.000 Holy shit, man.

01:29:10.000 The factors behind the disappearance.

01:29:13.000 Sudden and profound disappearance of black Africans from Argentina is attributed to a confluence of factors.

01:29:21.000 The 1870s, though.

01:29:22.000 First is the war against Paraguay, spanning from 1865 to 1870.

01:29:26.000 Thousands of black individuals fought in the military during these conflicts and other wars, resulting in significant losses.

01:29:33.000 The fatalities led to a considerable gender gap within the African population, prompting unions between black women and white men, which effectively diluted the black populace.

01:29:44.000 In addition, many Afro-Argentines sought refuge in more welcoming political climates in neighboring Brazil and Uruguay.

01:29:52.000 You don't lose a third of the population by accident by a bad one.

01:29:56.000 They're saying all of them.

01:29:58.000 There's no way these factors would make all of them go away.

01:30:01.000 Another devastating factor was the outbreak of yellow fever in Buenos Aires in 1871, which claimed the lives of numerous locals.

01:30:07.000 But still, wouldn't it be like proportion?

01:30:09.000 Here it is.

01:30:10.000 But many sources point to a far darker and more sinister force at work, a covert genocide orchestrated by Domingo Faustino Sarimento, who served as Argentina's president from 1868 to 1874 and played a pivotal role in decimating the Afro-Argentine population.

01:30:29.000 Okay, so it is a genocide.

01:30:31.000 Yeah.

01:30:32.000 But this was about 100 years before I thought.

01:30:35.000 Wow.

01:30:37.000 But then no one's going after Argentina for this.

01:30:39.000 Well, I didn't even know about it until America.

01:30:41.000 Everyone goes about America's a racist country, their racist history.

01:30:45.000 Holy shit.

01:30:45.000 Why is no one talking about Brazil's slavery?

01:30:48.000 Brazil had way more.

01:30:50.000 Brazil was like, I think they kept doing it for 20 years as well.

01:30:54.000 They were, it was huge.

01:30:57.000 And then everyone just acts like Brazil is a cool place to go by the beach and relax.

01:31:02.000 Have you ever seen The City of God?

01:31:02.000 Maybe it is.

01:31:04.000 No.

01:31:05.000 City of God is about the favelas in Brazil, in Rio.

01:31:09.000 And it is, it makes, Eddie Bravo said this, that it makes Boys in the Hood looks like Sesame Street.

01:31:15.000 It really does.

01:31:16.000 Like, if you watch that movie, it's so violent and so crazy.

01:31:20.000 And apparently, when you talk to people from Brazil, particularly from the favelas, it's actually accurate.

01:31:25.000 Like, there were gangs of kids like this.

01:31:28.000 There were like young 10, 11-year-old kids committing murder every day.

01:31:32.000 They had guns, they were moving drugs and getting money and like young people.

01:31:37.000 What changed it around?

01:31:38.000 They still have it.

01:31:40.000 Still an issue.

01:31:40.000 I mean, they've done their best to try to like, you know, the soldiers will do raids into the favelas at times, especially when someone does something crazy.

01:31:50.000 I know I was saying positive things about slums before.

01:31:53.000 There's negative things to having slums as well.

01:31:55.000 I would just like there to be more housing.

01:31:58.000 Yeah, housing would be good, but good housing would be better.

01:32:02.000 And there's enough money.

01:32:04.000 There's enough money to do that.

01:32:05.000 It's like you just have to, we have to prioritize what are we spending money on?

01:32:09.000 I mean, we shut Australia down for like two years.

01:32:12.000 No one was doing anything.

01:32:14.000 Yeah, you guys went nuts.

01:32:15.000 If you ever lead the world in something bad, that's, I think, a bad sign.

01:32:20.000 Once you have the longest lockdown.

01:32:22.000 What is it about Australians as a culture that allowed them to be kind of ordered around like?

01:32:30.000 We'd love rules.

01:32:31.000 Is that what it is?

01:32:32.000 I think about this a lot.

01:32:34.000 I mean, like driving in America feels wild and free.

01:32:38.000 Like no one's doing the speed limit.

01:32:39.000 If you do the speed limit on the freeway, it feels way more dangerous than going five over.

01:32:44.000 We have cameras everywhere.

01:32:46.000 If you go one, two miles over the speed limit in Australia, you get a fine.

01:32:49.000 They've recorded you.

01:32:50.000 And we don't push back.

01:32:52.000 I have no idea why other than because people don't like it.

01:32:55.000 Overall, people don't want to go through the bureaucracy.

01:32:58.000 But maybe there's no, we have no like animating sense of freedom that people should be free.

01:33:03.000 It's like, I think if the motto here is, don't tread on me, we've got pull your fucking head in.

01:33:08.000 You hear that quite a lot.

01:33:09.000 Pull your head in.

01:33:10.000 Pull your head in.

01:33:11.000 What's that mean?

01:33:12.000 What are you fucking doing?

01:33:13.000 Pull your fucking head in.

01:33:14.000 Like, get in line.

01:33:16.000 Go with the flow.

01:33:17.000 Do what you're meant to do.

01:33:18.000 And for a while, I guess we were also prosperous for a long time.

01:33:22.000 And that worked.

01:33:23.000 If you just laid low and you did what you know, you went to school, you went to uni, the government's going to pay for you, uni.

01:33:29.000 You get a nice job.

01:33:30.000 You'll get a big, beautiful suburban family home.

01:33:32.000 Don't buck the system.

01:33:34.000 You don't have to do anything crazy.

01:33:35.000 And as that falls apart now, which is falling apart quickly.

01:33:40.000 Rent's out of control.

01:33:41.000 The inflation's so much worse.

01:33:44.000 The immigration is like, it's silly.

01:33:48.000 Like, we're not building houses in line with that.

01:33:52.000 And so it's like, a lot of comics are moving overseas.

01:33:57.000 Like in a way that no one moved overseas.

01:34:00.000 For the first 10 years I was doing comedy, I think a couple guys went to the UK and that was it.

01:34:04.000 And now Aaron Chen's here, Blake Freeman's here, Amos Gill's here.

01:34:08.000 What do you think is the big motivator to what was the biggest thing that was a problem over there?

01:34:14.000 Post-COVID, I mean, COVID was, COVID radicalized a lot of people.

01:34:17.000 Is that what it was?

01:34:18.000 Just the kind of control they put down on you guys?

01:34:20.000 It was, and then the, I mean, there's so much opportunity here.

01:34:25.000 People keep saying the cost of living is going up in America, and it is, but it's like still, it's wacky that eggs are only 370 or something.

01:34:34.000 That's so cheap for eggs for us.

01:34:36.000 Really?

01:34:37.000 How much are eggs over there?

01:34:37.000 Yeah.

01:34:39.000 More.

01:34:40.000 Substantial.

01:34:41.000 Yeah?

01:34:41.000 Yeah.

01:34:42.000 Give me.

01:34:42.000 Like, how much?

01:34:43.000 I don't know.

01:34:44.000 I'm buying free-range eggs because my wife insists on it.

01:34:47.000 But still, I think if you did like a milk-to-milk, egg-to-egg, you'd dominate.

01:34:52.000 Interesting.

01:34:53.000 America has so far to go before it gets to be a revolutionary.

01:34:57.000 14 a dozen.

01:34:58.000 Whoa.

01:35:01.000 14 bucks a dozen you guys pay for eggs?

01:35:03.000 That's crazy.

01:35:04.000 Oh, man.

01:35:05.000 If you've got coals and wool, I mean, the dollar's a bit different.

01:35:08.000 So there's less opportunity.

01:35:10.000 Things are more expensive.

01:35:11.000 And also, there's, I mean...

01:35:15.000 You got locked in your house for, I mean, it was literally in Melbourne.

01:35:18.000 We were in Melbourne when it kicked off.

01:35:19.000 My wife and I, and we had a newborn child, and she was pregnant with the next one.

01:35:23.000 And they said, we're locking everyone down for six weeks.

01:35:26.000 You can't leave your house.

01:35:28.000 And it was, we had better, not better, we had like stronger state-by-state regulation.

01:35:32.000 So if you moved back, we were from Adelaide in South Australia.

01:35:36.000 They said it was two weeks if you came from interstate.

01:35:38.000 So we just drove all night and got out, but then watched his people.

01:35:40.000 It's like a 300-day lockdown.

01:35:43.000 Jesus Christ.

01:35:44.000 You couldn't do, it was one of the only places you could do shows was in Adelaide.

01:35:47.000 We did have a lot of people.

01:35:48.000 I like Josh Zepps.

01:35:49.000 He seems great.

01:35:50.000 I saw him on here about the, I think you confronted him about the concentration camps.

01:35:54.000 And it's like, yeah, we had camps where we concentrated people.

01:35:57.000 I don't know what else you meant to call that.

01:35:59.000 Yeah.

01:36:00.000 Yeah, we had a disagreement, too, about myocarditis.

01:36:03.000 It's like you would get all these different, now it's like firmly established as a higher risk of myocarditis for young people that took it.

01:36:03.000 And it was interesting.

01:36:10.000 But back then, it was really confusing.

01:36:12.000 And I was like, why did I read articles that said it was a higher risk?

01:36:15.000 And then he brought one up that said there was more of a risk of getting myocarditis from COVID itself, which really didn't make any sense even in the argument because back then we didn't know that it not only doesn't protect you from getting the virus, it doesn't even protect you from spreading the virus.

01:36:30.000 So you still get it.

01:36:31.000 So you still have a chance if that's true.

01:36:33.000 But it turns out when I talked to Dr. Massim Asim Mahatra, who is a part of this whole Maha thing too, and he was another doctor that was initially pro-vaccine and eventually just realized there was a bunch of horseshit going on with all of it.

01:36:49.000 He said that's not what they measured.

01:36:51.000 They were measuring troponin levels.

01:36:53.000 They were measuring like what happens when you get sick and that those levels are higher in a viral infection.

01:37:01.000 And he was saying that that's not indicative of what true myocarditis is, which is an enlarging of the heart and a scarring of the heart tissue.

01:37:09.000 It's like it's a different thing they're looking for.

01:37:10.000 They're elevating the number of people that are getting it from COVID by doing it this way.

01:37:15.000 Oh, I can see why you, like, it's hard to lose trust in the establishment.

01:37:15.000 He was saying.

01:37:22.000 Like, you want to believe that the people running the medical side of things and who are setting all the rules have your interests at heart and you should listen to them.

01:37:28.000 Especially if you're in certain social circles, right?

01:37:32.000 So, if you're in certain social circles where people are very pro-science and very logical and rational, and they are all in agreement of one thing, you don't want to be cast out of that social circle.

01:37:42.000 You don't want to be thought of as being a fool.

01:37:45.000 And so, you don't want to have any opinion that's opposing what is this consensus narrative amongst these people.

01:37:51.000 It's also, I mean, it's nice to be in that group because you get to live in a world where the government cares about you and they know what they're doing, and this politician in a suit.

01:37:59.000 Like, there was a new one.

01:38:01.000 The realm for personal expression of politicians was tiny for a long time because it was, you know, that's what you want.

01:38:06.000 Trump's blown this up, but I remember like Howard Dean did a weird scream, and his career was over.

01:38:11.000 That's what it took back in the day to ruin your candidacy.

01:38:15.000 Yeah, well, how about they had to keep that illusion going that, like, these are very competent people who will not make a weird noise at the wrong time.

01:38:21.000 Oh, for sure.

01:38:22.000 That was all they would need to latch onto, and then they would like throw it in everybody's face.

01:38:25.000 It would be all over the news, and it would be over.

01:38:27.000 Yeah.

01:38:28.000 There was no internet.

01:38:28.000 I mean, isn't that a nice world to...

01:38:32.000 Like that 50s world of like, ah, you can, we've got a man in a white coat, and he knows what's up.

01:38:38.000 You don't have to do all the, it's taxing to try and figure out how disease works.

01:38:43.000 Oh, it's, yeah, it's not fun.

01:38:45.000 It's not fun to not trust anyone and always want to read like hundreds of different articles on any complex subject to try to get an understanding of who's telling the truth and who's not.

01:38:57.000 It's a pain in the ass.

01:38:58.000 And the cost for getting it wrong is in all.

01:38:59.000 Like if you get 19 things right and one thing wrong, they just go, you're a fucking idiot.

01:39:03.000 Oh, 100%.

01:39:04.000 Yeah.

01:39:04.000 But I think the key is like you have to say why you got it wrong and then express yourself.

01:39:11.000 Like I get things wrong, but I'll tell you why I got it wrong and then I won't lie and I'll tell you what I know now.

01:39:17.000 So if I know now that something's different than what I thought, I definitely always say it.

01:39:21.000 And I always say, I was wrong about this and this is why.

01:39:24.000 I like to get it out.

01:39:25.000 You got to get it out because it's important.

01:39:27.000 Like the whole thing is we're trying to figure out what the fuck is actually going on.

01:39:31.000 And when you're looking if you're looking at really complex – like, you get into something like the Kennedy assassination, which is one of the big ones in this country, because a lot of people are like, "Oh, let it go.

01:39:41.000 Let it go." And then there's a lot of other people go, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And they've evolved.

01:39:50.000 And anything that's alive, that's still a part of the systems are all still there.

01:39:55.000 Yeah.

01:39:55.000 For sure, they're just way better at doing that.

01:39:58.000 And they've learned how to not use a magic bullet and, you know, not fucking, you know, the grassy knoll and not kill all the witnesses.

01:40:05.000 You know, they learned how to do stuff.

01:40:07.000 Some of them get a lot better.

01:40:08.000 So it's like, so Jack Ruby kills, I'm going to get a lot of this wrong.

01:40:13.000 Lee Harvey Oswald.

01:40:14.000 Jack Kennedy kills him.

01:40:16.000 We have a photo of it right out there right the moment he's shooting.

01:40:18.000 But then when he's under arrest, there are like two journalists who come and interview him.

01:40:22.000 And I think one of them kills him.

01:40:24.000 I'm like Jolly West.

01:40:26.000 Jolly West, the head of the FK Ultra program.

01:40:28.000 Yeah.

01:40:29.000 Yeah.

01:40:29.000 Jolly West visits him and he goes insane.

01:40:31.000 He'd never had any history of mental illness.

01:40:33.000 Jolly West sees him.

01:40:34.000 He sees Jews burning in hell and he's going crazy.

01:40:38.000 He's hype because he was a Jewish man.

01:40:39.000 So he thought they were coming for him.

01:40:41.000 He's hiding underneath the fucking bench.

01:40:43.000 He's screaming.

01:40:44.000 He went completely.

01:40:46.000 They dosed him with acid, man.

01:40:47.000 This is the MK Ultra people did this.

01:40:50.000 I think a journalist who talked to him before he died got killed by some sort of gay karate chop.

01:40:57.000 A gay karate chop.

01:40:58.000 It was like a gay journalist, and then he took a man in the ass.

01:41:01.000 You chop him in the ass.

01:41:02.000 I think he took a man home for a sexual encounter, and then he was karate chopped to death.

01:41:06.000 I think that's the official explanation.

01:41:07.000 It's a very rare thing to karate chop a man to death.

01:41:10.000 That's a weird choice.

01:41:11.000 It was cool when it was karate chop somebody.

01:41:11.000 It was the 60s.

01:41:13.000 Why did they know it was a karate chop unless they have a video?

01:41:15.000 I think that's the medical examiner said.

01:41:17.000 Oh.

01:41:18.000 Karate chop.

01:41:18.000 Okay, that medical examiner doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about.

01:41:21.000 He probably just stomped him.

01:41:22.000 Well, do you think...

01:41:25.000 The Manson.

01:41:26.000 Yes.

01:41:26.000 He was dosed with some sort of.

01:41:28.000 Oh, 100%.

01:41:29.000 And I'm sorry if you've heard this before, ladies and gentlemen, but the book Chaos by Tom O'Neill is amazing.

01:41:36.000 Amazing.

01:41:37.000 He's Greg Fitzsimmons' old neighbor.

01:41:40.000 So Greg, who's at the mothership this weekend, who's awesome, one of my best friends.

01:41:43.000 And I've been friends with, I started doing comedy with him one week apart when we did Open Mike Knight.

01:41:48.000 Is he a Boston guy's will?

01:41:49.000 Yes.

01:41:49.000 Known him forever.

01:41:50.000 He's awesome.

01:41:51.000 So he, and hilarious comic, too, but I think it's all sold out.

01:41:54.000 But he was next door to this guy.

01:41:57.000 And this guy was a journalist, super nice guy.

01:42:00.000 They became friends.

01:42:01.000 And he's saying, I'm writing this thing about Manson.

01:42:03.000 It was supposed to be for a magazine.

01:42:05.000 It was supposed to be like 25th anniversary of the Manson family killings.

01:42:09.000 But he starts finding all these inconsistencies, and he keeps going further and further down the rabbit trap.

01:42:14.000 And he thinks the prosecutor's full of shit, and there's some sort of a connection to the government.

01:42:17.000 He's like, what the fuck is going on here?

01:42:19.000 So he doesn't meet the deadline.

01:42:21.000 So he keeps going.

01:42:22.000 And so then he gets a book deal.

01:42:23.000 And it's going on and on and on and on and on.

01:42:26.000 For 20 fucking years.

01:42:28.000 For 20 years, this guy studies nothing but the Manson case.

01:42:31.000 He's got stacks and boxes.

01:42:34.000 He's been interviewing people.

01:42:35.000 And then he puts together this book with help.

01:42:38.000 He had to get someone to help him organize it because he was so deep in the weeds.

01:42:41.000 He's got enough for another book.

01:42:42.000 I mean, a pure obsessive, but a brilliant guy.

01:42:45.000 And this book, Chaos, it outlines all of the MKUltra involvement in the Manson family and all the different things that they were doing at the time with the CIA mind control experiments.

01:42:56.000 So they were running brothels.

01:42:58.000 Which they did definitely seem to have.

01:43:00.000 Yeah.

01:43:00.000 100%.

01:43:01.000 All 100% real.

01:43:02.000 What do you know about this lady?

01:43:03.000 Dorothy Kilgallen, reporter cloaked in controversy.

01:43:07.000 I'd say read this.

01:43:08.000 Okay, Dorothy Kilgallen is best known for her column, The Voice of Broadway, in the New York Evening Journal, which was published in over 140 papers, and for her role as the game show panelist of the 1950s television program, What's My Line?

01:43:22.000 She was hailed by the post as being the most powerful female voice in America.

01:43:26.000 Kilgallen spent a vast majority of her career cloaked in controversy, most notably surrounding her investigative work into the John F. Kennedy assassination.

01:43:35.000 As a longtime skeptic of the Warren Commission, a study conducted by the United States government into who killed JFK, as well as who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, well, we know who killed Lee Harvey Oswald.

01:43:45.000 JFK's supposed assassin, Kilgallen, dove deep into the controversy.

01:43:49.000 Some may even argue too deep.

01:43:50.000 Kilgallen was under suspicion that Oswald did not commit his crimes alone and published several articles reflecting this belief.

01:43:58.000 Jack Ruby, who allegedly killed Lee Harvey Oswald on November 24, 1963, was only interviewed by one reporter throughout the trial, Dorothy Kilgallen.

01:44:07.000 Since her interview with Ruby, many noted that Kilgallen carried a file with her at all times.

01:44:13.000 It remained under lock and key when not physically in her hands, according to those close to her.

01:44:19.000 Kilgallen's file continued to grow throughout the investigation.

01:44:23.000 In a conversation with her lawyer, Jim Garrison, prior to, that's the guy who prosecuted, that was in the movie, Kevin Costner played him in the JFK movie.

01:44:38.000 Prior to a trip to New Orleans with Dorothy later inexplicably canceled, he remembers her saying, I'm going to break the real story and have the biggest scoop of the century.

01:44:48.000 Kill Gallen's first trip to New Orleans was planned two weeks prior to her death when her husband, Richard Colmar, found her with files missing by her hairdresser in a bedroom she never slept in, dressed in clothes she would never wear to bed, reading a book she had finished and disliked, wearing glasses she didn't need for reading.

01:45:07.000 Initial autopsy report, a Brooklyn medical office as opposed to the office in Manhattan where she lived, found her cause of death to be a lethal combination of alcohol and barbituits.

01:45:17.000 The report later amended to note that the barbituate originally found seccanol, a sleeping pill for which she had been prescribed, was in fact a combination of tuinol and nembutol, which she did not have access to.

01:45:33.000 Although her death was eventually ruled a suicide, Kilgallen's husband noted that when she returned from a taping of What's My Line earlier that evening, she appeared chipper.

01:45:43.000 Well, a lot of people do seem chipper before they go to the station.

01:45:45.000 They decided.

01:45:47.000 Yeah, a researcher by the name of Mark Shaw, who investigated Kilgallen's death, found that she was under surveillance by the FBI through the Freedom of Information Act.

01:45:55.000 Friends of Kilgallen recall her expressing fear for her life leading up to her death, and she supposedly even purchased a gun, a rather uncharacteristic thing for her.

01:46:05.000 Yeah, they whacked her.

01:46:06.000 Yeah, they whacked her.

01:46:07.000 Yeah, they've got a finished release.

01:46:09.000 In a recent release of the JFK files on October 26, 2017, a file entitled Dorothy Kilgallen by Richard Nixon was released, but its contents remain sealed due to reasons of national security.

01:46:25.000 They whacked her.

01:46:27.000 Yeah, was there a gay karate chop or did I make that up?

01:46:30.000 I didn't see that.

01:46:33.000 They whacked her.

01:46:34.000 They whacked her.

01:46:34.000 It seems likely.

01:46:35.000 Yeah, she was digging into the investigation.

01:46:38.000 Look, you know, when you talk to, like, I talked to Oliver Stone about it multiple times, and Oliver Stone, despite his advanced age, is still brilliant.

01:46:49.000 And his recall is incredible.

01:46:51.000 His recall and the assassination.

01:46:53.000 He's obsessed with that assassination.

01:46:55.000 So he can tell you who was involved and who did this and Alan Dulles and this and that.

01:46:59.000 And the Warren Commission report.

01:47:01.000 And then it goes back.

01:47:02.000 The rabbit hole just goes so deep.

01:47:04.000 It goes all the way.

01:47:06.000 It goes all the way to Richard Nixon because it goes all the way to Gerald Ford, who was on the Warren Commission's report.

01:47:12.000 And when they kicked Spiro Agnew out, they got Spiro Agnew on corruption.

01:47:17.000 They kicked him out.

01:47:18.000 They put in Gerald Ford.

01:47:21.000 Then they kicked Richard Nixon out with the Watergate thing, which I always thought was Richard Nixon got caught being a crook.

01:47:30.000 He was not a crook.

01:47:30.000 It was an intelligence agency plot.

01:47:33.000 The whole thing was Tucker Carlson lays it out.

01:47:36.000 Yeah.

01:47:37.000 The Nixon reputation is starting to come back.

01:47:40.000 Well, you know.

01:47:41.000 People are starting to love Nixon again.

01:47:42.000 There's a lot of stuff that he did that's not good.

01:47:46.000 Jim Coathy decided to write a book about the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

01:47:50.000 However, he died on the 21st of September 1964.

01:47:53.000 Oh, there you go.

01:47:53.000 And see that a man broke into his Dallas apartment and killed him by a karate chop to the throat.

01:47:59.000 That could happen to anybody.

01:48:00.000 That's a real thing that happens all the time.

01:48:02.000 This is the thing.

01:48:03.000 How do they know they didn't just strangle him to the throat?

01:48:06.000 Like, if you have damage to your throat, if you don't see the guy karate chopping him.

01:48:10.000 Well, it does seem like a weird flourish for the secret police to put out there.

01:48:13.000 But that's like one of those things that you would say.

01:48:15.000 Kothy just, oh, it seemed like a man broke in his apartment.

01:48:20.000 Tom Howard died of a heart attack, age 48 in 1965.

01:48:23.000 Who's Tom Howard?

01:48:25.000 Oh.

01:48:25.000 Attorney.

01:48:26.000 Oh, his attorney.

01:48:29.000 Okay.

01:48:30.000 They're both visiting Jack Ruby in jail.

01:48:32.000 Okay.

01:48:32.000 And they both died.

01:48:34.000 They definitely could give you a heart attack.

01:48:36.000 They definitely could give you a heart attack.

01:48:38.000 And they also searched his apartment.

01:48:39.000 The karate chop doesn't.

01:48:40.000 Karate Chop doesn't.

01:48:41.000 I really always held on to karate chop.

01:48:42.000 That's the one detail that really stayed with me through the day.

01:48:45.000 Oh, sure.

01:48:46.000 You can't tell.

01:48:47.000 I've seen so many guys get beat up, and you can never tell what hit them.

01:48:50.000 It could have been a very long bruise across the throat, a big forearm.

01:48:54.000 Shin to the neck.

01:48:54.000 Shin.

01:48:56.000 Easy.

01:48:58.000 People didn't have that sort of kicking at Billy.

01:49:00.000 Sure, in the West at that time.

01:49:01.000 Sure, some people did.

01:49:02.000 Yeah, there was people that trained, like an assassin.

01:49:05.000 If you were going to be an assassin, you would learn Muay Thai.

01:49:07.000 There was like legit Muay Thai group.

01:49:09.000 You could also have a knife.

01:49:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:49:10.000 But if you wanted to make it look like it was like a...

01:49:14.000 That was a bachelor flat.

01:49:15.000 Is that why I thought it was some sort of...

01:49:22.000 Apparently the result of a karate chop.

01:49:25.000 You know, I'm suspicious.

01:49:27.000 I think they probably thought of it as a karate chop because this is how people thought back then.

01:49:31.000 But I would imagine that was like a baton on the neck where you choke a guy to death.

01:49:34.000 There was a time, I know in Austin Powers, karate chop is like a cool thing.

01:49:37.000 Early 60s, people just fan ahead about karate.

01:49:39.000 The other guy was accidentally shot by the police a few hours before we got to the bottom.

01:49:43.000 That can happen.

01:49:44.000 That can happen.

01:49:45.000 Jesus Christ, man.

01:49:46.000 When you read stories like this, like if you're not a conspiracy theorist, Karate chop's the only thing that drew me in.

01:49:59.000 I was happily signing up with the rest of the official narrative.

01:50:01.000 Dude, I've seen a lot of guys get karate chopped in the neck.

01:50:04.000 They're all fine?

01:50:05.000 None of them died.

01:50:06.000 My dad is like a big...

01:50:09.000 My dad really, like, he really believes the JFK assassination happened the way they said it did.

01:50:14.000 And he made a whole trip of it to Dallas and he went up to the building.

01:50:17.000 He was like, he could have done it.

01:50:19.000 He could have done it from here.

01:50:19.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:50:20.000 So I've never really dug into it.

01:50:22.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:50:23.000 He could have shot JFK in the head from the book depository.

01:50:28.000 Anybody who says any different has never Shot a rifle, it wasn't that far.

01:50:32.000 It was, I think, it was 140 yards.

01:50:34.000 If you have a scope and you have an accurate rifle, 140 yards is not a long shot.

01:50:39.000 And if you have practiced and you know how it's going to go down and you're prepared, you're going to know exactly where he's going to be.

01:50:47.000 You're going to have the crosshair on him.

01:50:48.000 You pull the trigger, you hit him in the head.

01:50:50.000 And you might be able to get off a couple of shots.

01:50:52.000 And some people have been able to recreate the three shots.

01:50:56.000 And they think that he got off three shots.

01:50:58.000 And that's impossible.

01:50:59.000 They recreate it?

01:51:00.000 Yeah, people have done it.

01:51:01.000 They like closed down Central Dallas and Dr. Dr. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:51:04.000 They shot off three rounds from a Carkano rifle in that same period of time.

01:51:09.000 They didn't do it there.

01:51:11.000 But they did it.

01:51:11.000 It showed, look, you can shoot three times in the amount of time that it took you to drive.

01:51:15.000 But this is the problem with any conspiracy theories that like...

01:51:19.000 There are a bunch of things that don't.

01:51:21.000 There are like a thousand conspiracy theories about JFK.

01:51:26.000 Some of them are nuts, but then some of them hold up.

01:51:28.000 It was my point, though, is that that is undeniable.

01:51:31.000 But it's also undeniable there was a lot of people that reported that they heard gunshots from the grassy knoll.

01:51:36.000 There's also the whole magic bullet theory, which is total horseshit.

01:51:40.000 That's the most horseshit theory that's ever been promoted.

01:51:43.000 That there was like an ice bullet that dissolved inside of...

01:51:47.000 One bullet caused a whole ton of injuries.

01:51:50.000 What a zipped around.

01:51:51.000 No, this is what they had to do.

01:51:53.000 There was a guy that got shot in the underpass.

01:51:53.000 Okay.

01:51:55.000 Yes.

01:51:56.000 So there was an underpass and a ricochet hit the granite, the curbstone, and he got hit in the head.

01:52:02.000 So he got fucked up and he had to go to the hospital.

01:52:05.000 And then they found the impact and they found the bullet.

01:52:07.000 So they knew that this accounted for one of the shots that it missed.

01:52:11.000 So then they had to account for two different entry holes on Kennedy and entry hole in Connolly.

01:52:22.000 So Connolly was shot in the wrist and in the thigh as well.

01:52:25.000 So you had to say that one bullet did all this damage in both people and then there was the headshot.

01:52:32.000 Yeah.

01:52:32.000 Because you have the third bullet.

01:52:34.000 So they came up with one wacky theory and they found this bullet in pristine condition on the gurney when they went to visit in the hospital.

01:52:45.000 So when they had JFK's gurney in the hospital, they magically found this pristine bullet.

01:52:52.000 This is like when the passports fall out of the plane on 9-11.

01:52:55.000 Yeah.

01:52:56.000 Almost as ridiculous.

01:52:57.000 But this one is so ridiculous because you have the physical evidence of the bullet, which is impossible.

01:53:02.000 It's impossible for a bullet to shatter bone, go through two different people, leave more residue, like more bullet fragments were in Connolly's wrist than were missing from the bullet.

01:53:14.000 That bullet.

01:53:15.000 That bullet supposedly went through two different people, shattered bone on both of them.

01:53:21.000 That's a special bullet.

01:53:22.000 As a person who's shot guns before, that's horseshit.

01:53:27.000 That's not what happens when a bullet hits bone.

01:53:30.000 So it's supposed to have gone through his back.

01:53:33.000 It sits out his tie hole.

01:53:33.000 This is the official bullet.

01:53:35.000 Yeah, like right where his tie knot is, goes into Connolly's wrist and then goes into his thigh, shatters his wrist, leaves fragments in his wrist, the wound left in the thigh, and then they find this magical, perfect bullet, pristine condition on the gurney in the hospital.

01:53:56.000 I mean, it seems weird.

01:53:58.000 Was it Connolly's gurney that they found it on or JFKs?

01:54:02.000 I might have might have got it wrong.

01:54:03.000 It might have been Connolly's Gurney that they found the bullet on.

01:54:06.000 But either way, listen to me.

01:54:08.000 Shut the fuck up.

01:54:09.000 No, look, I usually stop at this point because I don't want it to happen.

01:54:12.000 Anybody who says that's what happened, shut the fuck up.

01:54:15.000 Then there's also the problem of the bullet hole in his neck.

01:54:19.000 Now, they're trying to attribute that as an exit wound.

01:54:22.000 But the thing is, there's two different autopsies.

01:54:27.000 The autopsy from Dallas, and then there was the autopsy from Bethesda, Maryland.

01:54:33.000 And the discrepancy was the one at Bethesda, Maryland, I believe, called it a tracheotomy scar or tracheotomy cut.

01:54:40.000 So like they opened him up to put a trach in.

01:54:42.000 The only reason why they would do that is they don't want to attribute that to a bullet that hit him in the front of the neck.

01:54:46.000 I think there was a bunch of different people that were trying to figure out how do we make it so that it was only this one guy.

01:54:54.000 And Lee Harvey Oswald might have pulled the trigger.

01:54:56.000 He might have been part of it.

01:54:58.000 He does kill the policeman later, right?

01:55:00.000 I believe so.

01:55:00.000 I believe most people believe he did that.

01:55:03.000 Yeah.

01:55:04.000 And well, he already knew that he was on the run at that point in time, right?

01:55:07.000 And then when he gets arrested, he says, I'm a Patsy.

01:55:10.000 I'm a Patsy.

01:55:11.000 Okay.

01:55:12.000 Maybe.

01:55:13.000 Maybe he was involved.

01:55:14.000 Maybe he didn't pull the trigger.

01:55:15.000 Maybe somebody else who was a real expert marksman.

01:55:18.000 Because he wasn't that good.

01:55:20.000 People say he wasn't a good marksman, but let me tell you something.

01:55:23.000 If he had been, he was like downgraded to mass.

01:55:26.000 But here's the thing about shooting rifles.

01:55:29.000 When you're talking about like 500 yards, you're talking about really long shots where you're required to be prone and lay perfectly still.

01:55:37.000 Yes.

01:55:37.000 I would say you really want to be an elite marksman to do that.

01:55:41.000 And there's a lot of technique involved in training.

01:55:43.000 And they're very meticulous about their preparation, their breath work.

01:55:46.000 And it's like a very intense thing because you can't move at all.

01:55:49.000 You have to be like so precise.

01:55:51.000 But 140 yards is not far.

01:55:53.000 It's not that far.

01:55:54.000 That's like with the Trump thing, they said a child could have done it.

01:55:58.000 If he had a scope.

01:55:58.000 That kid didn't have a scope.

01:56:00.000 See, the Trump thing was fucked because that guy was using iron sights.

01:56:03.000 So iron sights are, it's like standard.

01:56:07.000 You can adjust them slightly, but like towards your side, closer to the shooter, there are two posts, and at the end, there's one post.

01:56:14.000 And the scoop from the upper post, it lines in.

01:56:21.000 He did have a scope.

01:56:23.000 Oh, so why did they say that he didn't forever?

01:56:26.000 I mean, it was down here.

01:56:26.000 I don't know.

01:56:28.000 But there was a photograph of it.

01:56:29.000 So this photo down the corner with my cursor doesn't have a scope?

01:56:32.000 Right.

01:56:33.000 This is from the FBI.

01:56:34.000 Okay.

01:56:35.000 But here's the thing.

01:56:36.000 I'm pretty sure there was a photograph of it laying on the roof and it didn't have a scope.

01:56:42.000 And this is why, and this is not my theory.

01:56:45.000 This is all the people that I know that are in the tactical world that have talked to me about this.

01:56:49.000 They were saying that he had iron sights.

01:56:50.000 See if you can find it if they show a photo of the actual rifle.

01:56:57.000 And then there's just nothing about this that's come out since then.

01:57:00.000 So if he had a scope that's even crazier that he missed, because that's a chip shot.

01:57:06.000 It's not a hard shot.

01:57:07.000 You're 140 yards.

01:57:09.000 You have an accurate rifle.

01:57:12.000 So let's see.

01:57:14.000 Scoom bit on that?

01:57:15.000 It kind of does look like he has a scope.

01:57:20.000 Go back to that again?

01:57:21.000 A lot of these pictures from the just talking of it, though, are using a picture of a gun without a scope to confuse people.

01:57:27.000 It's hard to tell.

01:57:28.000 Interesting.

01:57:29.000 Okay, so it's hard to tell, but go to the top one again and make that larger.

01:57:33.000 It's like this one?

01:57:34.000 No, the one that's on the right-hand side?

01:57:36.000 That makes it larger.

01:57:37.000 Okay.

01:57:38.000 Okay, that looks a little bit like a scope to me.

01:57:40.000 There's something above the barrel at the middle point of the gun.

01:57:44.000 It doesn't look flat.

01:57:45.000 It looks like there might be a scope.

01:57:47.000 Okay, which is even crazier that he missed then because this guy is shooting from a very close distance, but he probably fucking panicked.

01:57:54.000 He's a 20-year-old.

01:57:55.000 But he turns his head just at the right.

01:57:57.000 It's the miraculous.

01:57:58.000 Yeah.

01:57:59.000 But the thing is, that's not an expert marksman.

01:58:01.000 He did train a lot, though.

01:58:02.000 That was the other thing.

01:58:03.000 Like, there's a lot of people that trained in firearms with that kid.

01:58:07.000 So they knew that someone either told him to do that or he was preparing by himself to do that.

01:58:12.000 Why does nothing come out about it?

01:58:14.000 Bro.

01:58:15.000 You would think.

01:58:16.000 Because I think that MK Ultra shit keeps going.

01:58:18.000 I think it's like that Aerosmith song.

01:58:20.000 Train kept a rolling all night long.

01:58:23.000 I think it just keeps going.

01:58:24.000 I don't think they stopped.

01:58:26.000 I think someone, whether it's our government or another government or some giant business interest, someone probably talked that kid into doing that, gave him the resources.

01:58:38.000 He had five different phones.

01:58:40.000 Oh man, his entire, There was no silverware in his home when they searched his home.

01:58:47.000 I mean, it's weird that there wasn't more.

01:58:49.000 I know there was like a guy at the golf course and there was like a third guy maybe.

01:58:53.000 But the temperature in the country at that time was no one was like actively coming out and begging.

01:59:00.000 The Dems weren't coming out and saying, someone's got to kill this guy.

01:59:03.000 But they were going, this is insane.

01:59:05.000 Yeah, but it might not just be the Dems.

01:59:07.000 This is what you have to understand.

01:59:08.000 It's probably business interests.

01:59:11.000 If you're in another country, okay, and this guy's actively campaigning, saying that he's going to raise tariffs and he's going to call, we're going to make China pay, we're going to make Russia pay, everyone's going to pay.

01:59:25.000 If you're in some military-controlled country that's going to lose trillions of dollars because this guy's going to make everybody pay, you might hire someone to do something.

01:59:36.000 Well, this is why he goes Vance immediately out.

01:59:38.000 This is the theory.

01:59:40.000 What I put together is the theory.

01:59:41.000 Someone else must have done it, but you pick someone who seems scarier than you, right?

01:59:46.000 You go, well, if you kill me, you get him.

01:59:48.000 You think Vance is scary?

01:59:49.000 I think at the time, he seemed like the furthest right protectionist candidate that Trump could have picked from on the VP list.

01:59:58.000 I don't think he really is, though.

02:00:00.000 I don't know what he is.

02:00:01.000 He's pretty reasonable when you have a real conversation with him.

02:00:03.000 He's definitely conservative.

02:00:05.000 He's pretty reasonable, but he's also like a no-nonsense, no-bullshit guy who is not, he doesn't lack in compassion.

02:00:13.000 But he was the, like, he was not the easiest.

02:00:16.000 He's young.

02:00:17.000 Electorally, there were other people he could have gone with who would have been.

02:00:20.000 He's young.

02:00:20.000 He's very religious.

02:00:22.000 You know, there's a lot of aspects of that that make people uncomfortable.

02:00:24.000 The young one is pretty big.

02:00:26.000 People don't want some young guy being the fucking president of the world.

02:00:30.000 When was the last time it was like Kennedy Roosevelt?

02:00:33.000 Kennedy was what?

02:00:34.000 He was like late 40s?

02:00:37.000 But he'd also been around.

02:00:38.000 He was a known commodity.

02:00:39.000 He was handsome.

02:00:39.000 He'd been in it for a long time.

02:00:40.000 He was handsome.

02:00:41.000 He's pretty young.

02:00:43.000 He didn't look like an old leader.

02:00:45.000 He didn't look like Eisenhower.

02:00:46.000 You know what I mean?

02:00:47.000 He didn't look like Ronald Reagan.

02:00:47.000 Yeah.

02:00:49.000 But he'd been to the war.

02:00:51.000 And that added.

02:00:53.000 Have you been to the Fredericksburg Pacific War Museum?

02:00:55.000 No.

02:00:56.000 It's a two-hour drive.

02:00:56.000 It's great.

02:00:58.000 It's tremendous.

02:00:59.000 But like they have a they have a mural out back for all the presidents since that war.

02:00:59.000 Yeah.

02:01:04.000 And everyone's in World War II.

02:01:06.000 Like that's the, it's not that America's looking for an old guy.

02:01:08.000 It's like who it's everyone is somehow until like Clinton, everyone is a World War II van.

02:01:16.000 Well, you can think back then, everybody signed up for the war.

02:01:20.000 Yeah.

02:01:21.000 But generationally, America didn't want to move on from the World War II guys.

02:01:25.000 That was like a comforting.

02:01:26.000 Right.

02:01:27.000 But it was also World War II was the last just war in their eyes.

02:01:32.000 Like we had to defeat the Nazis.

02:01:33.000 Yeah.

02:01:33.000 You know, we had to stop the takeover of evil in the world.

02:01:37.000 And then you got to the Vietnam War and it's like, wait, what's going on here?

02:01:41.000 This is not.

02:01:42.000 Korea seems more clean cut.

02:01:49.000 But Korea is also, North Korea is fighting South Korea.

02:01:53.000 North Korea is communist.

02:01:54.000 But it doesn't have the same light.

02:01:55.000 Korea doesn't occupy the same.

02:01:56.000 No, it doesn't have the same spot in people's heads.

02:01:59.000 And then really, it's not one war that everyone's getting behind after that.

02:02:03.000 No.

02:02:04.000 No, there's not one.

02:02:06.000 And, you know, most people are real down on a war right now for good reasons.

02:02:11.000 You know, it's like, are we fucking for real still doing this?

02:02:16.000 You know, and this was one of the things that Trump campaigned on, is no more wars.

02:02:21.000 And that scares the shit out of people.

02:02:21.000 Yeah.

02:02:23.000 You know, because then right away we're involved in this Iran thing.

02:02:26.000 Like, okay.

02:02:28.000 But, you know.

02:02:30.000 I'm so easily taken in.

02:02:32.000 Like, I was terrified.

02:02:34.000 I was like, oh, I don't want to be a war.

02:02:35.000 This is terrible.

02:02:36.000 And then as soon as the bombs are dropped and Trump comes out and goes, we're very strong.

02:02:40.000 I'm like, oh.

02:02:42.000 It's so easy to get whipped up into a fervor.

02:02:45.000 There's some truth to that, right?

02:02:46.000 And there's some truth to maybe it wouldn't be the best thing in the world if they developed a nuclear program and had nuclear weapons and used them on Israel.

02:02:53.000 But then, you know, you say, well, were they really close to doing that?

02:02:57.000 Well, then you find out that Netanyahu has been saying they've been close to doing that.

02:03:01.000 For like 15 years, and Tulsi's saying they have no information on it.

02:03:05.000 But the thing is, like, what do we know?

02:03:05.000 Yeah.

02:03:07.000 You know, if they don't let inspectors in, what do we know?

02:03:10.000 You know, I think it's good for America to have to pull together over something.

02:03:10.000 Yeah.

02:03:15.000 Someone sent me the, like that Reagan, towards the end of his term, just kept giving speeches about how he wanted there to be an alien invasion.

02:03:23.000 Yes.

02:03:24.000 And he said, if only there was some alien force that we could all get together against the aliens.

02:03:28.000 Yeah.

02:03:29.000 But it is, that Seems like America's ready for that.

02:03:32.000 Some coming together.

02:03:34.000 I can see that if you were in charge and you wanted to have civil unity, you would want there to be something like a war to pull people back together.

02:03:41.000 I think there's a lot of value in having no civil unity.

02:03:45.000 I think there's a lot of value in keeping us at each other's throats.

02:03:48.000 This is what I always try to tell people.

02:03:50.000 Most of us are in the middle.

02:03:51.000 Most of us, especially after you get to a certain age, you realize a lot of fucking things that people do, it's because, you know, they're allowed to do it and it's stupid and it fucks their life up and maybe you should get your shit together.

02:04:06.000 Also, there's a lot of poor people that need help.

02:04:08.000 And the idea that you're going to cut that off from them is kind of fucked up and uncharitable and un-American.

02:04:14.000 But also, there's people that take advantage of those programs and they stay in them forever and it kind of fucks up the whole community.

02:04:20.000 And that's true too.

02:04:21.000 Okay, so how do you set the standards?

02:04:23.000 And what do you do?

02:04:25.000 But most people, socially, are very much in the middle.

02:04:30.000 Like, most people want gay rights and civil rights and women's rights and trans rights.

02:04:36.000 We want rights.

02:04:36.000 We want everybody to be free.

02:04:38.000 We want everybody to have rights here.

02:04:39.000 But rights are.

02:04:40.000 That's how you get something because you just chuck the word rights on something.

02:04:43.000 Rights are important.

02:04:44.000 Like people say abortion rights and then people say gun rights.

02:04:47.000 Yeah.

02:04:48.000 That's how you know if the media is in favor of that thing or not.

02:04:51.000 When I was coming up, if they say rights, then they go, this should be.

02:04:54.000 Like abortion rights were confected in Roe v.

02:04:56.000 Wade.

02:04:57.000 They just, it didn't exist beforehand.

02:04:59.000 They said there was a, I mean, maybe people can pass that.

02:05:02.000 People can legislatively have abortion on the books, but that's not what happened.

02:05:06.000 The Supreme Court just said, we infer that there's a right to privacy somewhere in the Constitution.

02:05:12.000 We're not going to be clear about where that is.

02:05:14.000 And so the judiciary can just make it happen.

02:05:17.000 Well, that's how it got overturned, right?

02:05:19.000 Yeah, because what can be done by the judiciary can be overturned by the judiciary.

02:05:22.000 But there's heaps of stuff in America that just like the Supreme Court decided it was going to happen.

02:05:26.000 No one came in it.

02:05:27.000 Like gay marriage was just a Supreme Court thing.

02:05:31.000 I think that's kind of also the will of the people.

02:05:33.000 Like most people are like, let them be married.

02:05:36.000 Like, what's the problem?

02:05:37.000 Like, how does that fuck with your life?

02:05:38.000 But like, California votes it in and then votes it out again, right?

02:05:42.000 Well, here's what's hilarious.

02:05:43.000 Up until 2013, Hillary Clinton was openly stating.

02:05:47.000 I don't think Barack Obama.

02:05:49.000 I think he said he was against it for the first time.

02:05:51.000 I think it was 2013 where Hillary finally said she was in favor of gay marriage.

02:05:51.000 Yeah.

02:05:57.000 But they used to always, like, have you ever seen those videos of Hillary being more MAGA than Trump about the border?

02:06:03.000 I believe it.

02:06:04.000 Oh, my God.

02:06:05.000 She would be queen MAGA.

02:06:07.000 She would have a diamond-encrusted Make America Great Again hat.

02:06:11.000 She would be the president if she was running today.

02:06:13.000 And I'm not bullshitting.

02:06:14.000 I am not.

02:06:15.000 I'm 100% not bullshitting.

02:06:15.000 I think there was.

02:06:17.000 I think it's a Sam Talent bit where I don't know if he's still doing it, but he was going like, if Kamala had come out and said the word retarded, she would have won.

02:06:23.000 That's all she had to do.

02:06:24.000 Sam Talent's funny.

02:06:26.000 But he...

02:06:27.000 Yeah, there was...

02:06:32.000 Like, the progressive wing takes over.

02:06:33.000 The work thing happens at some point.

02:06:35.000 But like Biden was at saying, super predators?

02:06:38.000 Bro, the Democrats were the ones who wanted to keep slavery.

02:06:42.000 Some of them.

02:06:44.000 The Southern Democrats.

02:06:45.000 But understand.

02:06:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:06:47.000 That the Republicans are the ones that were trying to free the slaves.

02:06:50.000 It's like things just get weird and get reversed.

02:06:52.000 So now the Democrats are anti-free speech if it's hate speech and disinformation and misinformation and malinformation.

02:07:01.000 All right.

02:07:01.000 This is the Castro speech that we're going to be talking about.

02:07:02.000 That makes me feel good.

02:07:04.000 This is Castro.

02:07:05.000 So they ban it.

02:07:05.000 The revolution takes over in Cuba.

02:07:07.000 They ban a film.

02:07:09.000 They haven't had to ban a film up to that point, but they banned the first film.

02:07:11.000 And Castro comes and gives like a two-hour speech to the intellectuals explaining why they're going to start banning movies.

02:07:17.000 What was the film?

02:07:18.000 It was called PM.

02:07:20.000 It was just a film about poor black people having a good time.

02:07:24.000 It doesn't seem like there's a lot of political content in the movie.

02:07:28.000 But he gives this like, it's this long, beautiful, like two, 3,000 words up the top going, I'm listening to you and you're listening to me.

02:07:35.000 And isn't that great that we have a conversation?

02:07:37.000 And then just out of nowhere, he goes, the revolution's in control and your freedoms are not.

02:07:43.000 You don't have a right to make whatever film you want.

02:07:45.000 We're going to decide.

02:07:46.000 And people are clapping and going for it.

02:07:47.000 But if you like, if you take revolution and sub that out for progress or safety or anti-racism, people would totally get behind that.

02:07:54.000 Yes.

02:07:54.000 And this is what everyone who's been sounding the horn, you know, including guys like Konstantin Kisson from Trigonometry and Jordan Peterson and people that understand the history of Marxism.

02:08:06.000 They're like, this is how it always comes.

02:08:08.000 It comes in the guise of doing the greater good for the people and letting the state control things.

02:08:12.000 This is what happened in North Korea.

02:08:14.000 That's how they all lost their farms.

02:08:15.000 Yeah.

02:08:16.000 They come in and then they centralize power and then everybody has to shut the fuck up because that's how people operate.

02:08:16.000 Yeah.

02:08:21.000 I think from a, like if you have a materialist worldview of the universe, that makes sense.

02:08:26.000 I can see how you would get there.

02:08:28.000 Like it's a weird thing to say God has given you a right to express yourself and to hang out with who you want.

02:08:35.000 This is why it has to be in the declaration.

02:08:37.000 It's either in the declaration or the constitution, but like these are God-given rights and they're self-evident.

02:08:42.000 Because if you were designing a utopia, which is what every revolutionary wants to do, you're saying we're fixing society, we're fixing human nature.

02:08:50.000 There's nothing that would intrinsically make you say people have a right to say whatever they want.

02:08:56.000 Like that has to come from somewhere.

02:08:57.000 That's like a, It used to come from suppression.

02:09:06.000 But then as soon as they have a revolution, they take that away.

02:09:09.000 You use the weapon of your master.

02:09:10.000 The revolutionaries, having been under Batista and oppressed and not allowed to say what they want, they come to power and they go, yeah, we're going to be doing that now.

02:09:17.000 That's what the guy in power gets to do.

02:09:18.000 But to say the state is ceding that, this is like a beautiful, strange mystical outside world.

02:09:25.000 Yes, this is.

02:09:25.000 But isn't there a difference between taking over an existing country like Cuba that had been around for a long time?

02:09:30.000 Yeah.

02:09:31.000 A communist regime taking over versus the establishment of a place like the United States, which is an exercise, like an experiment, really, in self-government that never been achieved before.

02:09:43.000 And it's not a coincidence that it's the newest country in terms of like superpowers, and yet it's the one that's achieved the most in terms of cultural impact, artistic impact, intellectual impact.

02:09:55.000 It's a hard argument that the United States hasn't achieved more than anybody.

02:09:58.000 I mean, the fucking nuclear bomb was created here.

02:10:00.000 You know, shut your mouth, right?

02:10:02.000 So allegedly we went to the moon.

02:10:03.000 I don't think we did.

02:10:04.000 But allegedly we went to the moon.

02:10:05.000 Are you back on the moon?

02:10:06.000 Yeah, I don't think we did.

02:10:08.000 but you know, also a lot of assassinations, a lot of like overturning governments in other countries, a lot of shit.

02:10:15.000 Yeah.

02:10:15.000 It's not good.

02:10:16.000 But the point is, like, this is the most free place and the most shit gets done.

02:10:22.000 I mean, I don't disagree with that at all.

02:10:24.000 And I think this is the progress that the human civilization goes through.

02:10:29.000 It realizes that suppression ultimately is bad for everybody.

02:10:32.000 It's bad for GDP, bad for like, it's bad for patriotism.

02:10:36.000 It's bad for everything.

02:10:38.000 It's bad for people's appreciation of each other.

02:10:40.000 It's hard to govern when people are fucking angry.

02:10:44.000 And then the breakoff civilizations always seek more freedom.

02:10:48.000 Yeah.

02:10:49.000 You know, I think we've got to try one more time with Greenland.

02:10:52.000 Give it a go.

02:10:53.000 I think if Trump takes Greenland and global warming is real, that's the spot.

02:10:59.000 Well, Canada might have to become a state, and then there's a lot of good land up there.

02:11:02.000 I have a friend who went up to Greenland and went stag hunting or caribou hunting.

02:11:07.000 They hunt caribou in Greenland.

02:11:09.000 It was beautiful, man.

02:11:10.000 The area they were at was fucking gorgeous.

02:11:12.000 It was incredible.

02:11:14.000 There's like these insane hills and these herd of caribou come through.

02:11:19.000 And there's just so many caribou.

02:11:21.000 It's so beautiful.

02:11:22.000 It's so clean.

02:11:22.000 Yeah.

02:11:23.000 They're camping.

02:11:24.000 They're sleeping in a bunch of people.

02:11:25.000 They're like a Chick-fil-A up there.

02:11:26.000 No, fuck it.

02:11:27.000 Get a freeway in a Chick-fil-A?

02:11:28.000 You ever have caribou?

02:11:29.000 No, I can't compete with Chick-fil-A.

02:11:32.000 I don't know.

02:11:33.000 I've never had caribou.

02:11:34.000 Hold on, I want to go back.

02:11:34.000 This thing of like, yeah, America's done a great deal.

02:11:37.000 It's very free.

02:11:38.000 But the rate of change in the culture is also unparalleled.

02:11:41.000 Like, you look at the Egyptians and they're doing the same pictures for thousands of years.

02:11:46.000 The feet all point in the same way and we don't mess with the artistic style.

02:11:50.000 Like the medieval era, there's a homogeneity through time and a culture that gets passed on.

02:11:55.000 If you look at America over the last 70 years, it's wacky.

02:12:00.000 Like, a couple nights ago, I was watching the number one song in America consecutively on YouTube.

02:12:07.000 So they play 20 seconds from that number one song and then the next number one song.

02:12:11.000 And early on, it's all like guys in suits going, my baby, she's so beautiful.

02:12:15.000 I'm going to take her to a dance.

02:12:15.000 I love her.

02:12:17.000 And then by the end, it's like, you know, I'm going to fist your ass and kill someone with my rifle.

02:12:23.000 Like it's, there's a huge shift.

02:12:26.000 Like all the institutions are ostensibly the same.

02:12:28.000 The way people vote, the way people go to school, the actual culture that's inhabiting all those things is like radically changing all the time.

02:12:36.000 Yeah.

02:12:36.000 All the time.

02:12:37.000 And there's a bunch of different factors, right?

02:12:38.000 So you have the 1950s factor, you know, which was like Elvis on television and Buddy Holly and all these people.

02:12:46.000 And then the drugs come in.

02:12:47.000 And then the drugs come in.

02:12:48.000 And so they were probably doing drugs back then too, but just probably not the good ones.

02:12:52.000 And then the 1960s, psychedelics.

02:12:55.000 So the 1960s, you get Hendrix.

02:12:57.000 You know, you get the Doors.

02:12:59.000 You get when the Beatles and the Doors and the Stones come through.

02:13:02.000 It's like, here are the first cool people ever.

02:13:04.000 First cool people ever.

02:13:05.000 And so then that all dries up when they pass the laws in the 1970s through the Nixon administration to kill the civil rights movement and to kill the anti-war movement, to make everything illegal.

02:13:16.000 Then you get the cocaine era.

02:13:17.000 So cocaine ruins music.

02:13:19.000 The 1980s was like, there's some great music in the 80s, but there's a lot of horseshit in the 80s, too.

02:13:25.000 There's still brilliant artists.

02:13:27.000 There's always going to be brilliant artists, but there's a lack of that psychedelic progression that Hendrix definitely shifts into a weird thing gets weird.

02:13:37.000 By the 80s, late 80s, they figured it out.

02:13:39.000 They figured out how to appropriate the counterculture thing and put a corporate look on it.

02:13:44.000 Well, it was cocaine.

02:13:46.000 They killed the psychedelics and it entered into an area of cocaine.

02:13:52.000 Like you see movies get real weird.

02:13:54.000 A lot of movies are like real stupid.

02:13:57.000 They don't make any sense.

02:13:58.000 They're dumb as shit.

02:13:59.000 And then you go back to 1963 and you see The Hustler.

02:14:02.000 You say, well, okay, why were they so good back then?

02:14:05.000 Why were so many of these movies so shitty?

02:14:07.000 It's late 20s.

02:14:08.000 Early Frank Capra just watches a normal modern film.

02:14:11.000 Yeah, there's some great movies, man.

02:14:13.000 But when you started comedy, this is the early 90s?

02:14:16.000 88.

02:14:17.000 88.

02:14:17.000 So there would have been a period, like, it seems like cocaine was big in American comedy circles for a time.

02:14:23.000 Oh, it was big there.

02:14:24.000 Retreated.

02:14:24.000 But it disappeared at a certain...

02:14:28.000 There's some places that still, they love the Coke.

02:14:30.000 I don't run into active drug addicts very often.

02:14:33.000 Well, people do cocaine.

02:14:35.000 They don't last.

02:14:37.000 The weed comics last.

02:14:39.000 The fucking Coke comics don't last.

02:14:41.000 Heroin people keep going.

02:14:42.000 Well, until they don't.

02:14:43.000 Yeah, but the red hot chili peppers look great.

02:14:46.000 They've been preserved.

02:14:47.000 I think they're clean for a long time.

02:14:47.000 I think they're clean.

02:14:49.000 I think they did back in from time to time.

02:14:50.000 You think so?

02:14:51.000 No, no, no, I think after "By the Way,"Yeah.

02:14:55.000 Iggy Pop, I don't know if he's still on heroin, but he's looking...

02:14:59.000 Poor Iggy.

02:15:00.000 He looks so good.

02:15:01.000 But he looked that way 30 years ago.

02:15:02.000 He's like Alice Cooper.

02:15:03.000 He looked like a world old man.

02:15:05.000 But he looked old 30 years ago, but he had like, he was lean.

02:15:08.000 He moved around on stage with his shirt off, but now he looks like he can barely walk.

02:15:12.000 Yeah, he's like something's wrong with his.

02:15:13.000 Did you see the ACDC one?

02:15:16.000 That was like last week?

02:15:17.000 You got to see Iggy Pop first.

02:15:18.000 How bad?

02:15:19.000 I saw Iggy Pop like 10 years ago and he was great.

02:15:21.000 He's great.

02:15:22.000 No, dude, I had to kick a woman in a mush pit.

02:15:25.000 He was dragging.

02:15:26.000 He was saying, come on stage, everybody.

02:15:28.000 One of my favorite green room songs is Passenger.

02:15:31.000 Yeah.

02:15:31.000 Fucking great song, man.

02:15:32.000 After the show?

02:15:34.000 I couldn't listen to Passenger before a show.

02:15:35.000 It'd be too sad.

02:15:36.000 Really?

02:15:37.000 All right.

02:15:37.000 Yeah.

02:15:39.000 I'm a passenger.

02:15:41.000 What's he look like now?

02:15:43.000 Is this 2023?

02:15:44.000 Yeah.

02:15:44.000 Is he still good in the face?

02:15:46.000 No, no, like he's still killing it.

02:15:48.000 It's just he has a hard time getting around.

02:15:50.000 It looks like there's something wrong with his.

02:15:52.000 It does look like he's got spine bifid in there.

02:15:54.000 I think he's got something wrong with his hip or something, which is super common, especially for performers who dance around on stage a lot and go crazy.

02:16:02.000 Yeah.

02:16:03.000 Oh.

02:16:03.000 Yeah.

02:16:05.000 So he's having a hard time moving.

02:16:06.000 Still killing it.

02:16:08.000 But let me hear some of that.

02:16:10.000 Check out.

02:16:11.000 After that, bring up the ACDC at the moment.

02:16:13.000 It's very...

02:16:14.000 Okay.

02:16:20.000 Okay, he's very old.

02:16:31.000 He's got it.

02:16:32.000 He's still Iggy Pop, but his body's struggling.

02:16:35.000 And like, I know a lot of guys, like, Ted Nugent had to get both his knees replaced because he was jumping off amplifiers.

02:16:40.000 Yeah.

02:16:41.000 Maynard from Tool, he had to get his hip replaced.

02:16:44.000 His hip was fucked up.

02:16:45.000 That's why Neil Diamond had the right plan.

02:16:47.000 Just stand there.

02:16:48.000 Just stand there.

02:16:49.000 Just sing you beautiful songs.

02:16:50.000 You can do that forever.

02:16:51.000 Yeah, that's a good move.

02:16:52.000 No, they all get.

02:16:54.000 It's hard, man.

02:16:55.000 You're bouncing around on a stage all the time and stomping the ground.

02:16:58.000 Like Anthony Keatis, his knee's all fucked up, man.

02:17:01.000 I went to see this.

02:17:03.000 He killed it.

02:17:03.000 He's great.

02:17:04.000 We went to see the chili peppers when they were in town.

02:17:06.000 And then afterwards, he's got an ice knee.

02:17:07.000 I feel bad.

02:17:09.000 You know, he's still on stage, though.

02:17:11.000 We don't notice it.

02:17:12.000 Every time someone says they don't like the chili peppers, I distrust them immediately.

02:17:15.000 They're great.

02:17:16.000 Suck My Kiss is a fucking great.

02:17:17.000 That whole album is start to finish from ACDC this year.

02:17:21.000 I think that one video we saw was just kind of a weird thing.

02:17:26.000 He looks okay in this one.

02:17:28.000 It's 2025.

02:17:30.000 Yeah.

02:17:30.000 There was a viral video going around where they looked a little slow.

02:17:35.000 No, he's still got it.

02:17:36.000 I take it back.

02:17:39.000 But this is, I mean, if you were a classical composer, you just get to be old and wear your big powdered wig and keep writing until you're 80.

02:17:45.000 As a rock star, a big part of it is that you're physically threatening and that women want to have sex with you, right?

02:17:51.000 Like this is.

02:17:52.000 Have you seen Mick Tiger's girlfriend?

02:17:56.000 She's a beautiful...

02:17:56.000 Yes.

02:17:59.000 She's so hot.

02:18:00.000 She's so hot.

02:18:01.000 She's so hot that she's like 30 or something like that.

02:18:03.000 And he's 1,000?

02:18:06.000 I got to meet Al Pacino's baby mama.

02:18:08.000 But you got to see the pictures of Mick with the girl.

02:18:11.000 Look at this.

02:18:11.000 With the lady?

02:18:12.000 Yeah, this is the one.

02:18:13.000 What's that?

02:18:14.000 This is the one that went viral.

02:18:17.000 But he's just stomping on stage.

02:18:19.000 No, it's the way he sang oi.

02:18:21.000 Let me hear it.

02:18:22.000 I have to get started.

02:18:24.000 *music* Thank you.

02:18:29.000 ACDC urge to retire after recent concert footage goes viral.

02:18:32.000 Assholes.

02:18:33.000 Let me hear this.

02:18:41.000 He does seem tired.

02:18:41.000 I don't think he should have to retire, but...

02:18:46.000 He probably is still doing all right.

02:18:47.000 That's our greatest export.

02:18:50.000 That's for sure.

02:18:51.000 We've never done anything that great before since.

02:18:54.000 Listen, guys get old.

02:18:55.000 It's hard to come up with the full power always when you hit that age.

02:19:00.000 But what was the point?

02:19:01.000 Oh, Mick Jagger and his new girl.

02:19:02.000 He's fly honey.

02:19:03.000 Oh, she's so hot.

02:19:05.000 And he's at least a million years old.

02:19:07.000 He.

02:19:08.000 How old is he?

02:19:09.000 Yeah, I got to see him like 10 years ago, and he seemed old then, but he was still grooving.

02:19:12.000 Oh, dude, I saw him in town as well.

02:19:14.000 I saw him at the Circuit of the Americas.

02:19:16.000 They did this gigantic outdoor concert.

02:19:18.000 It was fucking incredible.

02:19:19.000 Look at her.

02:19:20.000 Ba-ba-ba-bam, son.

02:19:22.000 What's up now?

02:19:25.000 Dude, she's so hot.

02:19:27.000 And she's like, I can't believe I'm with Mick Jagger.

02:19:30.000 That's what talent does.

02:19:31.000 He seems happy as well.

02:19:32.000 He seems thrilled.

02:19:33.000 I would imagine that would make you happy.

02:19:36.000 I mean, yeah, but then she's talking about a young woman things, and you just want to read the Financial Times in peace.

02:19:42.000 I don't know, man.

02:19:43.000 Maybe that's why he's so good still.

02:19:45.000 Maybe he stays young.

02:19:46.000 He's still hippie.

02:19:47.000 They fucking killed it, man.

02:19:48.000 They killed it at Coda.

02:19:49.000 Al Pacino.

02:19:51.000 She was backstage, and I. I got another kid.

02:19:52.000 I got another one?

02:19:53.000 Yeah.

02:19:54.000 Another one?

02:19:55.000 I got dragged away when I met her because people thought I was going to ask weird stuff.

02:19:58.000 So this is a new gal?

02:19:59.000 Yeah.

02:20:00.000 Oh, boy.

02:20:01.000 He's 85.

02:20:02.000 Holy shit.

02:20:04.000 He still looks good.

02:20:07.000 What do you want me to do?

02:20:08.000 She's got a great ass.

02:20:10.000 I mean, wow, she's hot.

02:20:12.000 It does start to look like you're.

02:20:14.000 Oh, they split.

02:20:14.000 I think that's the one I met.

02:20:16.000 That was the one that he split with, but he's got another one.

02:20:19.000 Wow.

02:20:21.000 Good for him.

02:20:22.000 He loves breeding.

02:20:23.000 He's still out there doing it.

02:20:24.000 Listen, don't give Elon shit.

02:20:26.000 Don't give him shit.

02:20:28.000 I just like it done the old-fashioned way.

02:20:29.000 I like the Genghis Khan rooting his way across the steppe.

02:20:34.000 I fear.

02:20:35.000 Also, like, Elon's in public.

02:20:36.000 He's one of the only billionaires who allows himself to be seen and judged and thought about.

02:20:40.000 But if we had a list of the top 100 richest people in the world, we would know eight of them.

02:20:47.000 Like, the hidden figures who are doing that.

02:20:49.000 Well, the real richest people in the world are probably the oil builders.

02:20:52.000 The souths.

02:20:53.000 Yeah, because they don't even have to tell you how much money they have.

02:20:57.000 Yeah.

02:20:58.000 Once they're building an ice tobogganing room in the desert.

02:21:07.000 Bro, they're building the line.

02:21:10.000 Have you seen that?

02:21:11.000 Yeah, I don't believe that's going to be nice.

02:21:13.000 Maybe it will be.

02:21:14.000 They have so much money they can make it nice.

02:21:16.000 Yeah.

02:21:16.000 Look at what they did to Dubai.

02:21:17.000 You ever see those time-lapse photos of Dubai?

02:21:19.000 But they didn't even put...

02:21:25.000 What do you mean?

02:21:30.000 So they have like trucks come along and pick up the poo from downstairs every day and have to drive it out.

02:21:36.000 It seems like a fake.

02:21:37.000 Oh, that's an error.

02:21:38.000 Someone needs to be fired.

02:21:39.000 Somebody's probably killed.

02:21:40.000 Someone has been quietly chopped into pieces.

02:21:42.000 Oh, 100%, right?

02:21:46.000 The Birch Khalif is like, how many stories?

02:21:48.000 It's too big.

02:21:50.000 And it's all buckets of shit being carried on.

02:21:52.000 I could be getting that wrong, but someone told me that they have semi-trailers that come by in the morning.

02:21:56.000 That's an old hoax.

02:21:57.000 Is it a hoax?

02:21:58.000 I got one wrong.

02:21:58.000 I take it back.

02:21:59.000 I was right about the foot binding.

02:22:00.000 I was right about...

02:22:04.000 No, it's right.

02:22:05.000 No, I love the kingdom of sound.

02:22:09.000 I'm a big fan.

02:22:11.000 I could be got on Compromat so easily.

02:22:13.000 Send me a new car.

02:22:15.000 I'll say great things about the regime.

02:22:18.000 No one has come to me.

02:22:19.000 Not even someone selling dick pills or nothing.

02:22:20.000 I want to get to that later.

02:22:22.000 It's coming.

02:22:24.000 I don't see.

02:22:25.000 Come on, bro.

02:22:26.000 More appearances like this and it'll all happen.

02:22:29.000 I'll be doing gamble.

02:22:30.000 I'll be doing DraftKings.

02:22:31.000 Yeah, there you go.

02:22:33.000 I don't think I could.

02:22:34.000 I'm trying to figure out what companies I would have on my podcast and wouldn't.

02:22:38.000 Do you gamble at all?

02:22:40.000 Yeah, but I don't like the companies.

02:22:42.000 I like, you know.

02:22:44.000 Regular gambling.

02:22:45.000 Regular.

02:22:45.000 I'll bet you money for this.

02:22:47.000 It's ruined footy in Australia.

02:22:48.000 Oh, has it?

02:22:52.000 Australia's the highest per capita gambling losses in the world.

02:22:54.000 Wow.

02:22:55.000 And we beat Singapore.

02:22:57.000 We shouldn't be beating the Asian countries.

02:22:58.000 Asians should have gambling down pat.

02:23:00.000 Is that because you don't have to raise in any other place?

02:23:03.000 I think so.

02:23:04.000 I think everything is so safe that it's like, I've got to lose everything on this.

02:23:07.000 You go crazy on that one thing.

02:23:08.000 The gambling thing.

02:23:09.000 Yeah.

02:23:10.000 Because booze is expensive.

02:23:10.000 Oh, no.

02:23:12.000 But then the way that they advertise on, you always have to see the line.

02:23:16.000 You can't watch a game of football with someone because they go, they don't just want their team to win anymore.

02:23:20.000 They want this guy to get 27 disposals and the second goal of the game.

02:23:24.000 It's like, just, I want to watch footy.

02:23:27.000 But gambling is very exciting.

02:23:28.000 Yeah, there's a thing like that in MMA, too.

02:23:32.000 It's a big factor in MMA.

02:23:33.000 I think if your guy gets, you know, he wins, but by submission, then you're upset because he didn't knock the other guy out and you lost money.

02:23:39.000 There's like the Drake thing, too, because Drake spent, he bets like the big money on the UFC.

02:23:46.000 And did he bet on Charles Oliveira or Ilya Patulpuria?

02:23:50.000 That was nutty.

02:23:52.000 Oh, my God.

02:23:53.000 Also, that was the first one of those updates since I met you.

02:23:56.000 He bet $200,000 on Charles.

02:23:58.000 Yeah, see?

02:23:59.000 They call it the Drake curse.

02:24:00.000 Yeah, there's a website that Charles.

02:24:01.000 Whoever he bets on Goes Damn.

02:24:03.000 Yeah, Drake's.

02:24:04.000 That's his UFC betting history.

02:24:06.000 Returned $0.

02:24:08.000 Who is he?

02:24:09.000 He's not cursed when it comes to UFC overall, though.

02:24:11.000 He's up a million bucks.

02:24:12.000 Oh, all time from his public UFC bets.

02:24:15.000 From his public ones.

02:24:16.000 Over 25 bets, he's wagered $13.45 million, returning $14.48.

02:24:22.000 Yeah, but everyone knows that.

02:24:23.000 He's won 10 out of those 25 bets, losing 15 times.

02:24:27.000 You go public when you win.

02:24:28.000 Interesting.

02:24:29.000 It's a guy who comes back to the office on Monday and goes.

02:24:31.000 But look at that.

02:24:32.000 He's only won 40% of the time.

02:24:34.000 His average UFC bet size is 538K.

02:24:39.000 That's interesting, though, because he's only won 40% of the time.

02:24:42.000 He just bets big when he's sure.

02:24:45.000 And so he's ahead.

02:24:46.000 His biggest single loss was Adesanya to beat Alex Pereira in 22, the one that Pereira won, the first one.

02:24:58.000 Single bet victory was John Jones over Cyril Gawn.

02:25:02.000 Successfully predicting John Jones to win by submission.

02:25:06.000 Interesting.

02:25:07.000 Hold on, but this is a whole website dedicated to it.

02:25:09.000 He could have sent this out.

02:25:11.000 No, it's commonly known.

02:25:11.000 No.

02:25:13.000 He's betting on cricket.

02:25:14.000 Yeah.

02:25:15.000 Why is he betting on cricket?

02:25:16.000 He likes to bet, dude.

02:25:17.000 He's rich as fuck.

02:25:18.000 He's betting on the.

02:25:19.000 He gets his jollies off throwing large numbers at stuff.

02:25:22.000 Three bets on cricket, returning 2.65 mil.

02:25:24.000 So he's ahead.

02:25:25.000 He's three for three.

02:25:27.000 So he knows what he's doing.

02:25:28.000 There you go.

02:25:29.000 He's making money.

02:25:30.000 Yeah, but you always bet on the royals and the cricket.

02:25:32.000 Well, if you're going to bet, though, betting on sports where you actually know the game, that's a smart thing to bet on.

02:25:39.000 I bet if I bet on fighting, I bet I'd be right 60% of the time.

02:25:46.000 You have a deal where they'd say, don't you, dear?

02:25:48.000 Oh, no, you can't.

02:25:49.000 The UFC won't let you.

02:25:50.000 But that was only recent, man.

02:25:52.000 That was recent because there was an accusation that one of the trainers had been posting on some website and that they knew that this guy was injured.

02:26:02.000 Yeah.

02:26:03.000 And the guy lost in the first round.

02:26:04.000 And there's a bunch of money on him losing in the first round because he had a blown-out knee.

02:26:08.000 I think there was a footy player in Australia who was betting on himself to kick goals, which was like, he was backing himself, and it was like $15 or something.

02:26:16.000 It was very small.

02:26:18.000 He got in trouble for that?

02:26:19.000 He got in trouble for that.

02:26:20.000 He was betting on himself.

02:26:21.000 He's bet on himself to do well.

02:26:22.000 I think if you bet on yourself to win, that should be legal.

02:26:25.000 I bet on the Eurovision Song Contest.

02:26:27.000 That's my go-to.

02:26:29.000 Fighters have made personal bets with each other.

02:26:31.000 Like, I'll bet you the first one.

02:26:32.000 I think that's the first.

02:26:33.000 Yeah, it makes it more exciting.

02:26:35.000 but there's definitely room for...

02:26:40.000 That is an issue.

02:26:40.000 It's an issue with fighters.

02:26:41.000 Eurovision is a good bet.

02:26:43.000 If you found out that a fighter bet against himself, like, oh, God.

02:26:46.000 Or the trainer bet against the fighter, which has happened before.

02:26:49.000 That has happened before.

02:26:51.000 It was like anonymous back in the day, like in the old boxing days.

02:26:55.000 Like, people could throw fights and that shit happened all the time.

02:26:59.000 Was it on the waterfront?

02:27:01.000 Yep.

02:27:01.000 That's why.

02:27:02.000 Yep.

02:27:02.000 Milo Himbrando.

02:27:04.000 That also, that has 100% happened in MMA, especially in Japan.

02:27:09.000 In Japan, in the early days, there was a lot of fixed fights.

02:27:12.000 And you could kind of tell some of them.

02:27:14.000 You're like, oh, my God, it's fixed.

02:27:14.000 You watch them.

02:27:16.000 But it was because a lot of the Japanese stars originally in Pride came from the world of pro wrestling.

02:27:22.000 Yes.

02:27:23.000 Where they had determined outcomes.

02:27:25.000 And so some of these guys were stars.

02:27:27.000 And there's a few fights that they had as stars where it was a fixed fight.

02:27:30.000 But like that Logan Paul Mike Tyson fight.

02:27:34.000 He could have knocked him out earlier and clearly was choosing not to.

02:27:34.000 Yeah.

02:27:38.000 I mean, he bows to him at the end.

02:27:40.000 It seemed to me like sparring when I watched it, which, you know, look, I paid for it.

02:27:47.000 They got me.

02:27:47.000 I thought it was going to be a real fight, but I'm not mad because I'm just happy that Mike Tyson made a ton of money.

02:27:52.000 And I'm happy for Jake Paul that he made it.

02:27:54.000 And look, if he decided not to try to hurt Mike Tyson at 58 years old.

02:27:59.000 But there's some guy out there who had a million dollars on the bottom.

02:27:59.000 Sure.

02:28:02.000 That's the problem.

02:28:03.000 That's why, look, maybe it was a real fight.

02:28:05.000 Maybe that's just the level that they both fight at.

02:28:08.000 But it seemed a little sus.

02:28:14.000 I mean, we watched that in the green room, I think, and we couldn't get it going.

02:28:18.000 Yeah.

02:28:18.000 But I think that, you know, at the end of the day, it's okay.

02:28:22.000 It doesn't bother me.

02:28:23.000 It's a different, that's a different situation than someone like Terrence Crawford fighting Canelo Alvarez, and I don't think that that fight's legit.

02:28:31.000 If I saw that and I didn't think it was legit, I'd be furious.

02:28:34.000 Like, you guys are in your prime.

02:28:35.000 These are the best fighters on planet Earth.

02:28:37.000 We're finally going to get to see you guys box and you threw a fight, but that's not what's going on, you know?

02:28:42.000 Mike Tyson, Jake Paul was the most heavily wagered fight in years.

02:28:45.000 Okay, that's a problem.

02:28:47.000 That makes it a problem.

02:28:49.000 My opinion is, I just want to say, in case someone calls me into court, I'm a fucking idiot and I don't know nothing.

02:28:57.000 And don't take my advice.

02:28:58.000 I love the Saudi government.

02:28:59.000 Don't take my opinion.

02:29:00.000 I love the Israeli government.

02:29:01.000 I love Israel.

02:29:01.000 That had nothing to do with them.

02:29:02.000 That was Jake Paul promoting it.

02:29:06.000 It doesn't bother me.

02:29:07.000 It's compromising the sport, and that's bad.

02:29:09.000 It's just like watching it with people who are so in on it.

02:29:15.000 And then also, like, man, the sports betting apps, they introduced chat apps in them in Australia.

02:29:22.000 So it's like they're trying to take the place of social media companies where you go together and you meet your friends.

02:29:26.000 Like betting should be exciting enough without having a weird thing.

02:29:30.000 They're just trying to make money, right?

02:29:31.000 So they're trying to draw you in any way they can.

02:29:33.000 Yeah.

02:29:34.000 Yeah.

02:29:35.000 When I was first starting to work for the UFC, I bet.

02:29:38.000 I bet a bunch of times.

02:29:41.000 and then I thought, like, I probably shouldn't do this.

02:29:43.000 But I couldn't.

02:29:44.000 I was thinking, I was justifying in my head.

02:29:46.000 I was like, I can't affect the outcome.

02:29:47.000 And there was no rule.

02:29:47.000 Yeah.

02:29:49.000 It doesn't matter how you're calling it.

02:29:50.000 It's not going to.

02:29:51.000 I'm not going to change.

02:29:52.000 And also, like, I like the fights, and I'm not going to bet that much anyway.

02:29:56.000 But then my business partner, Annette, and I, Aubrey, he would bet on things I would tell him to bet on.

02:30:02.000 He was up like 80% at one time.

02:30:04.000 Yeah.

02:30:05.000 Because in the early days, like in the early 2000s-ish, when they were bringing in guys from like Japan and Russia, there was a lot of dudes that I knew about that the bookmakers didn't know about.

02:30:17.000 Yeah.

02:30:18.000 You know, like where like, like when Anderson Silva came over to America, I was like, bet the house.

02:30:24.000 Bet everything on Anderson.

02:30:26.000 I mean, bet everything.

02:30:28.000 Because Chris Lieban, who's a great fighter, is tailor-made for that style.

02:30:31.000 And Anderson is one of the nastiest strikers that's ever competed in the sport.

02:30:35.000 He's so good and so accurate.

02:30:37.000 And he just ran through Chris Lieban in the first round.

02:30:40.000 I was like, called it.

02:30:42.000 Because there's certain fights where you go like, this guy's special.

02:30:44.000 Like Ilya Toporia.

02:30:46.000 Like if Ilya Taporia is fighting a regular guy, like bet the house on the Spaniard.

02:30:51.000 Bet the house.

02:30:53.000 Like that guy's special.

02:30:54.000 There's like when Alex Pereira first came to the UFC, I was telling everybody, bet the house on the Brazilian.

02:31:00.000 I'm like, if he touches you, you go into orbit.

02:31:03.000 Like he's just different.

02:31:04.000 This is a different guy.

02:31:05.000 And you just have to know about that before the bookies.

02:31:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:31:08.000 Yeah, but people knew about Pereira sort of, but they didn't have a lot of evidence of him being that good in MMA.

02:31:14.000 They had one fight in the LFA.

02:31:16.000 There was another fight before that where he lost by submission.

02:31:18.000 I think maybe he had one other win, but it was the kickboxing.

02:31:23.000 So I'm a big kickboxing fan.

02:31:24.000 And in kickboxing, he was a two-division world champion in glory, which is like the elite kickboxing league.

02:31:30.000 But the thing wasn't that he was winning.

02:31:33.000 It was how he was winning.

02:31:35.000 He was flatlining people.

02:31:37.000 But you have to have actually watched the fight to get that.

02:31:40.000 You have to also be able to critically analyze his movements.

02:31:44.000 They're just different.

02:31:46.000 He's just doing something.

02:31:47.000 He moves different than people.

02:31:49.000 And when he hits guys, it's like, holy shit, man.

02:31:53.000 They can all knock each other out.

02:31:54.000 They're all elite fighters.

02:31:56.000 I watched that Oliveira fight, and we were with Nate's team in San Jose.

02:32:04.000 Someone says, this man's, the man who knocked him out.

02:32:07.000 He's like, this punch is incredible.

02:32:08.000 No one knows this.

02:32:11.000 They were all saying, like, this is an easy anti-Oliveira's going to lose because of this man's.

02:32:15.000 And then when he hits him in the head, you go, because he knocks him out on the first punch and then catches him on the second and hits him twice after that.

02:32:21.000 But it's like, if you just, I don't know about fighting.

02:32:24.000 And then watching that, I couldn't believe he was knocked out from, it didn't look like it should have had that impact.

02:32:29.000 Oh, it should, for sure.

02:32:30.000 Yeah.

02:32:30.000 When you watch the punch being delivered in slow motion, it looks everything like a knockout punch.

02:32:35.000 He throws his punches with so much conviction.

02:32:39.000 There's so much torque and they're so perfect.

02:32:41.000 Like his whole body is coming in.

02:32:43.000 It's the coordination of the mechanics of his movements.

02:32:48.000 It's like that's a big part of.

02:32:50.000 He also has very big fists, but that's a big part, especially for 145 and even in 155.

02:32:56.000 Like he's undersized compared to like guys like Rufi, who's like 6'2 ⁇ .

02:33:00.000 There's like some elite guys that are big in that weight class.

02:33:03.000 But the way he delivers his punches, it's like you just can't get hit by him, man.

02:33:09.000 He's got so much commitment and so the timing is so perfect.

02:33:13.000 When he went blam with that right hand, that had everything on it.

02:33:17.000 No one's eaten that shot.

02:33:19.000 No one.

02:33:20.000 He's got what Ferrosa Hobby likes to call the touch of death.

02:33:24.000 It's a perfect name for it.

02:33:26.000 It's because he hits guys.

02:33:27.000 They're just done, man.

02:33:28.000 They're done.

02:33:29.000 That seems like a lot of times.

02:33:30.000 He's the greatest three-fight win streak in the history of the sport.

02:33:34.000 He knocks out Alexander Volkanovsky, Max Holloway, and then Charles Oliveira.

02:33:41.000 It's the greatest three-fight win streak in the history of the sport.

02:33:44.000 And Volkanovsky is currently the champ.

02:33:46.000 He is now.

02:33:46.000 He is now doing it.

02:33:47.000 He came back.

02:33:48.000 But that's at 45, though.

02:33:50.000 So he went up to 55.

02:33:51.000 So Volkhanovsky's the champ because he abandoned the belt at 45 because he wanted to pursue the belt at 55.

02:33:56.000 He didn't want to make weight at Ilya.

02:33:58.000 Didn't want to make 145 anymore.

02:34:00.000 So it felt like it's too draining for his body, and he'd be even better at 55.

02:34:04.000 Turns out he was right.

02:34:05.000 He's even better at 55.

02:34:07.000 Charles Oliveira is really good, man.

02:34:10.000 Really good.

02:34:11.000 To starch him like that with essentially one punch is extraordinary.

02:34:17.000 But he called it, which is even crazier.

02:34:19.000 He said, I'm going to knock him out with him.

02:34:21.000 He's going to knock him out in the first round.

02:34:22.000 And he also, he had a celebration for his victory the night before the fight.

02:34:27.000 So they went to a restaurant.

02:34:28.000 He's standing on a bench.

02:34:29.000 They're cheering.

02:34:30.000 That is cool.

02:34:31.000 It worked.

02:34:32.000 I mean, listen, if you're that good.

02:34:34.000 And he's going to fight the Scouser?

02:34:37.000 The Scouser kept saying, Scassa kept going, I want him.

02:34:40.000 And then Nights Time are going like, he thinks he wants him.

02:34:42.000 He doesn't want him.

02:34:42.000 It'll probably happen eventually because they hate each other and it'll be very marketable.

02:34:46.000 I don't know if it's going to happen next.

02:34:48.000 This is my first year following it.

02:34:50.000 My brother watches it a lot.

02:34:50.000 I'm starting that.

02:34:52.000 There's a lot of really good guys at 155, though.

02:34:55.000 If you wanted to do it according to who deserves the shot, it would be, in my mind, it would be either Justin Gaetchy, who is a very compelling argument for deserving the shot.

02:35:07.000 He was the interim champion.

02:35:10.000 He essentially changed the progression of Tony Ferguson's career.

02:35:16.000 Just by knocking him out?

02:35:17.000 Just beat him down, man.

02:35:19.000 It was a brutal, brutal fight.

02:35:21.000 And then, you know, I mean, he's got so many victories.

02:35:24.000 He just beat Fazeev again after getting knocked out by Holloway.

02:35:27.000 He's one of the best of the best.

02:35:29.000 And, you know, he's fought for the title before.

02:35:33.000 He fought Khabib.

02:35:36.000 He's fucking really good, man.

02:35:37.000 But what would stop him?

02:35:38.000 And he's a big star, and he also deserves it.

02:35:41.000 The other guy would be Armand Sarukian.

02:35:43.000 Armand Sarukian was supposed to fight Islam for the title, but got a back injury supposedly because of the weight cut.

02:35:50.000 He had a particularly brutal weight cut and his back locked up to the point where he couldn't even fucking move.

02:35:54.000 And so they had to call the fight.

02:35:56.000 And so then they brought in Hanato Moikano, and he fought for the title, like last-minute replacement.

02:36:00.000 So Sarukian is elite.

02:36:03.000 He's as good as he gets, and he could be a world champion.

02:36:06.000 And so if I wanted to do it according to not marketability, but rather like who deserves it, it would be either Geiji or Sarukian.

02:36:16.000 How often does that come into it as opposed to the marketability?

02:36:19.000 I don't do that, man.

02:36:20.000 That's the thing.

02:36:20.000 It's like I'm not involved.

02:36:22.000 I would not be the right guy for the business.

02:36:25.000 Yeah.

02:36:25.000 Because I'm kind of a purist.

02:36:28.000 I feel like if you're the number one contender, you get the shot.

02:36:31.000 That's how I feel.

02:36:32.000 But I also don't know if I agree who the number one contender is all the time.

02:36:37.000 I think that should be up for debate.

02:36:40.000 It's very subjective.

02:36:41.000 Who decides what victories count for more or who would be more compelling to fight for the title?

02:36:47.000 Who deserves it?

02:36:48.000 Some guys have to fight a ton of guys.

02:36:50.000 And then other guys, like Pereira, he got a shot at Arisanya just a few fights in.

02:36:54.000 Yeah.

02:36:54.000 But this is what then kills.

02:36:56.000 This hurts boxing is when you have a champ who just repeatedly takes on people that they can walk over to extend the victory.

02:37:04.000 But because the UFC is all one thing.

02:37:07.000 The UFC makes you fight the big fights.

02:37:10.000 And if you don't want to fight the big fights, like John Jones didn't want to fight Tom Aspinall, then they didn't strip him?

02:37:16.000 Well, he didn't strip him.

02:37:17.000 John just retired.

02:37:18.000 But I think John just decided to retire legitimately.

02:37:21.000 I think he's, you know, he's partying a lot.

02:37:24.000 He had a long career and he's the greatest of all time.

02:37:26.000 Like at a certain point in time, you have to say enough.

02:37:28.000 And at 37, as the heavyweight champion retiring undefeated, that's probably a good move.

02:37:34.000 You know, he's got one loss, but it's a bullshit.

02:37:36.000 Have you seen those late Muhammad Ali interviews where he's going back?

02:37:40.000 He's going back again and people are begging him, you don't have to do this.

02:37:43.000 It's over.

02:37:43.000 It's fine that it's over.

02:37:44.000 You're the greatest.

02:37:45.000 That's fine.

02:37:46.000 He's not getting any money, man.

02:37:47.000 How did he not have any money?

02:37:49.000 Because he got ripped off.

02:37:51.000 He got ripped off, man.

02:37:52.000 He got ripped off.

02:37:53.000 And a lot of these wild, impulsive dudes, they spend all their money.

02:37:56.000 Like Tyson spent hundreds of millions.

02:37:59.000 He bought tigers and shit.

02:38:00.000 He was joking around about it.

02:38:01.000 He had Lamborghinis and Tigers and mansions.

02:38:04.000 He had a mansion in Ohio that he just abandoned.

02:38:08.000 And there was an online tour of this mansion.

02:38:11.000 And you can go online.

02:38:14.000 Someone broke into the mansion, took photos of it and everything.

02:38:16.000 There's a guy who did that with Kanye's Mansion in LA recently.

02:38:20.000 There's an Aussie.

02:38:21.000 He's written a book about John Safran, who's one of our best.

02:38:23.000 Really?

02:38:26.000 He wrote a book about squatting in Kanye's mansion.

02:38:29.000 He's like, you could just come in through the shrubs out the back, and I finished the book, sitting in Kanye's house.

02:38:34.000 He was always doing wild stuff.

02:38:36.000 He was a filmmaker.

02:38:37.000 He ran naked through the streets of Jerusalem, I think.

02:38:40.000 Jesus Christ.

02:38:41.000 What else did he got crucified in the Philippines?

02:38:43.000 Crucified?

02:38:44.000 Like on a cross?

02:38:45.000 Yeah, like at Easter they ritualized, Yeah.

02:38:50.000 He did that?

02:38:51.000 He did that.

02:38:52.000 He went and got for the season finale of one of his shows, he got crucified in the Philippines.

02:38:56.000 Oh, my God.

02:38:56.000 What a fucking nut.

02:38:57.000 He's wild.

02:38:58.000 He's a very exciting.

02:38:59.000 What's his name?

02:39:00.000 Jon Safran.

02:39:01.000 Yeah, he is the man.

02:39:02.000 He's a good podcast guy.

02:39:04.000 He stole a lot of Eurasian women's underpants to see if he liked the smell of them better.

02:39:08.000 Oh, fuck this guy.

02:39:09.000 Why?

02:39:10.000 He was stealing chicks'underwear and sniffing them.

02:39:11.000 No, and then he took other underpants that were not Eurasian to see if he was attracted to eat.

02:39:18.000 Jewish Australian comedian journalist.

02:39:21.000 Yeah.

02:39:21.000 That's a lot.

02:39:22.000 Spent a week living in one of West's homes in Los Angeles.

02:39:26.000 As if Kanye didn't hate Jews enough.

02:39:29.000 I've never heard him speak on this.

02:39:31.000 I've never heard him speak on John Zephyr.

02:39:32.000 Isn't it kind of funny, though, that a Jewish guy is the guy who squatted in his house?

02:39:36.000 I think that's why he did it.

02:39:39.000 No, he's wild.

02:39:40.000 He's hilarious.

02:39:42.000 He was crazy.

02:39:42.000 Yeah, he was.

02:39:44.000 Now he's writing books, but his documentary series were great.

02:39:47.000 He was in a show called Race Around the World, and everyone else would take it very seriously.

02:39:50.000 They had six aspiring filmmakers.

02:39:52.000 You know what the nuttiest spending of money was?

02:39:54.000 Was Evander.

02:39:56.000 Evander Holyfield, who was the heavyweight champion of the world.

02:39:59.000 He made the biggest fucking house.

02:40:02.000 It was an insanely huge house.

02:40:05.000 And then I think he sold it to Rick Ross, the rapper.

02:40:09.000 But the house is insane.

02:40:11.000 I don't know how much it costs.

02:40:13.000 I mean, I don't know how much it cost.

02:40:16.000 I don't even want to guess, but it's the craziest house I've ever seen in my life.

02:40:19.000 It's like a house that you would say, if I'm the baddest motherfucker on earth, I want the baddest fucking house on earth.

02:40:24.000 Is he a gypsy?

02:40:25.000 He's a Vander Holyfield.

02:40:27.000 You don't know who Vander Holyfield is?

02:40:27.000 I don't know.

02:40:29.000 Oh, my God.

02:40:29.000 One of the greatest heavyweights of all time.

02:40:30.000 Have you seen the Gypsy house?

02:40:31.000 He beat Mike Tyson.

02:40:33.000 Vander Holyfield beat Mike Tyson when he was very little about.

02:40:37.000 He knocked him out.

02:40:38.000 He stopped him.

02:40:42.000 Oh, he was the earbiting guy.

02:40:43.000 The earbuding guy.

02:40:44.000 I didn't know about the earbud.

02:40:44.000 That was the second fight.

02:40:45.000 That was after Tyson beat him up in the first fight.

02:40:47.000 In the second fight, he bit his ear.

02:40:48.000 Was he losing the second fight?

02:40:50.000 Tyson was losing.

02:40:51.000 Okay, that's why he did that.

02:40:52.000 But show Vander Holyfeld's house.

02:40:55.000 Look at this place.

02:40:56.000 Bro.

02:40:57.000 44,234 square feet and has 109 rooms.

02:41:03.000 Actually, very Tyson.

02:41:04.000 Including 135-seat theater, a bowling alley, and a dining room that accommodates 100 people.

02:41:13.000 Where is it?

02:41:14.000 So large, they named the highway on which it sits Evander Holyfield Highway.

02:41:20.000 That's crazy.

02:41:21.000 I thought it would be bad.

02:41:23.000 No, no, no, no.

02:41:24.000 No, it's gorgeous.

02:41:25.000 It cost an estimated worth of $230 million in 94.

02:41:32.000 What is that?

02:41:33.000 The wood paneling?

02:41:34.000 In 94, around that time, he had an estimate.

02:41:37.000 Oh, excuse me.

02:41:38.000 Around that time, he had an estimated worth of $230 million.

02:41:42.000 It's an amazing house.

02:41:44.000 I mean, it's fucking spectacular.

02:41:46.000 And now Rick Ross, the rapper, lives there, which is like the perfect rapper house.

02:41:49.000 You've got to spend it on.

02:41:50.000 But see if you can get photos of it.

02:41:52.000 Oh, it's gorgeous.

02:41:53.000 And it's a giant piece of land, too.

02:41:55.000 I think it's 105 acres.

02:41:59.000 See if you can set an image of it from the outside.

02:42:00.000 Yeah, that one where you see it.

02:42:02.000 Like, look at that.

02:42:03.000 It does look like the Georgia house.

02:42:05.000 If you're a Vander Holyfield, that's the kind of house you want to live in when you're the baddest motherfucker alive.

02:42:09.000 Look at that place.

02:42:10.000 So beautiful.

02:42:11.000 I get hung up on the field.

02:42:12.000 It's Holyfield.

02:42:13.000 Yeah.

02:42:14.000 The yachts, I like looking at the super yachts.

02:42:17.000 I look looking at the Jeff Bezos super yachts.

02:42:19.000 Oh, they're nuts.

02:42:20.000 But this house is fucking incredible.

02:42:22.000 You'd feel so lonely.

02:42:23.000 Rick Ross bought buffaloes and shit to publish.

02:42:24.000 You have your friends living there.

02:42:26.000 He's got buffaloes?

02:42:27.000 You've seen them every third day.

02:42:29.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:42:30.000 He's got his own buffaloes.

02:42:31.000 That's dope as fuck.

02:42:33.000 That's such a rapper move.

02:42:34.000 Have your own buffaloes on your property?

02:42:37.000 I love it.

02:42:38.000 Rick Ross thanks his neighbors for helping him return his buffaloes.

02:42:42.000 What is Rick Ross?

02:42:43.000 His buffaloes just hanging out.

02:42:45.000 They wandered over.

02:42:47.000 Helping him return his wander buffaloes.

02:42:49.000 He had to hire some cowboys to bring his fucking animals back home.

02:42:53.000 Yeah, no one needs to.

02:42:55.000 Why not?

02:42:56.000 Maybe I do need to.

02:42:57.000 Maybe if you become fucking huge and you start doing arenas in America and you develop an insane amount of money and all of a sudden you got giraffes at your house and I go, hey, very hard to say no, what the fuck?

02:42:57.000 Maybe you do.

02:43:06.000 I thought you weren't going to go full Rick Ross.

02:43:08.000 No, I mean, I would go.

02:43:11.000 I feel very lucky that I got to open for Shane and he lives very humbly.

02:43:15.000 Yeah.

02:43:17.000 And like Matt still drives his old car.

02:43:18.000 Oh, I'll be getting a big, fancy car.

02:43:20.000 You're going to go crazy.

02:43:20.000 I would like a roll through it.

02:43:21.000 Shane lives humbly, but he's also got a Mercedes-S class.

02:43:25.000 This is Mike Tyson's house that got abandoned.

02:43:27.000 Giant TV.

02:43:29.000 It looks like somebody broke it.

02:43:29.000 Oh, yeah.

02:43:30.000 I mean, it was abandoned for a long time, so they broke all the shit.

02:43:33.000 That people just would break into his house when he wasn't there.

02:43:33.000 That's crazy.

02:43:36.000 So did he just leave it there?

02:43:38.000 Or did he just...

02:43:45.000 I think Michael Jordan's house, he sold at a loss because of everything he'd done to it.

02:43:49.000 Some guy just actually bought it and recently made it an Airbnb.

02:43:51.000 He tried to take the shoe gate off.

02:43:53.000 The gate was a pair of Jordans or something.

02:43:55.000 That house was only worth $1.1 million.

02:43:57.000 That's how crazy.

02:43:58.000 After it's half forever.

02:43:59.000 That's a steal.

02:44:00.000 Oh, after it's half forever.

02:44:01.000 How much work you have to do to fix it back for that?

02:44:03.000 Bro, if I lived in that town and I found out Mike Tyson's house was for sale, I'd be like, let's go.

02:44:08.000 There's been a lot of fentalyze.

02:44:09.000 Let's go.

02:44:10.000 You think so?

02:44:10.000 In Ohio?

02:44:11.000 In the abandoned mansion.

02:44:12.000 In the abandoned mansion.

02:44:13.000 Yeah, but I'll just use some sage.

02:44:15.000 I'll clear that out of there.

02:44:16.000 Someone did sage last night backstage.

02:44:19.000 He left in 90s.

02:44:20.000 There was an odor backstage last night, and I came off stage.

02:44:22.000 Someone else burned sage?

02:44:24.000 Yeah, the guy working security said we burned sage.

02:44:26.000 I didn't know there was a big sage.

02:44:28.000 There was someone evil in the room?

02:44:29.000 I think someone might have just, I won't name who it was, but someone might have left a terrible smell.

02:44:29.000 They're trying to get out of here.

02:44:34.000 Oh.

02:44:36.000 I think someone was.

02:44:38.000 That definitely happens in that room.

02:44:39.000 There's a lot of people eating weird food that gets delivered to that room.

02:44:43.000 Yeah, I mean, I, oh man, Cam Patterson, I don't want to.

02:44:48.000 I should have said just a guy.

02:44:49.000 I shouldn't have added it as Cam Patterson.

02:44:52.000 No, when he headlined, he bought like enough fried chicken for 50 people.

02:44:57.000 And it was just me and his whole, it was like one of the first times I was hanging out with all black people in America.

02:45:03.000 I just quietly from Gus's.

02:45:04.000 Did they get it from Gus's?

02:45:06.000 It was like, no, I don't know where it was from.

02:45:08.000 It was huge and it was beautiful.

02:45:10.000 And I thought, I didn't know we had to do that.

02:45:12.000 And headlining, do we have to get food for everybody?

02:45:14.000 No, we don't have to.

02:45:16.000 You can definitely order food.

02:45:17.000 If you ever want to headline there, we'll order you food.

02:45:20.000 Well, I, man, I have had good meals in their green room.

02:45:23.000 We get Terry Black's delivered to it.

02:45:23.000 Yeah, we too.

02:45:25.000 Terry Black's great there.

02:45:26.000 We'd have Not a Damn Chance, Not a Damn Chance burgers.

02:45:29.000 Brian Simpson ordered ramen and didn't want to eat the eggs.

02:45:32.000 Everyone looked at me funny for eating it.

02:45:34.000 He said, I don't want these.

02:45:35.000 And I said, I'll eat them.

02:45:36.000 I'm hungry.

02:45:37.000 Why not, man?

02:45:38.000 There's also, it's kind of a food.

02:45:39.000 There's a pizza place next door, and there's a Chick-fil-A way down the road.

02:45:42.000 There's a really good taco truck up the street, too.

02:45:44.000 And the Diddy Dog is good.

02:45:45.000 There's a lot of things in vans.

02:45:47.000 But I am more suspicious of eating out of trucks and vans now than I used to be.

02:45:52.000 What I like is the Mexicans doing the weird hot dogs with like whatever.

02:45:56.000 They've got huge onions and capsicum.

02:45:59.000 Oh, yeah.

02:45:59.000 I love Kapski or hot sauce guy.

02:46:02.000 I love, I just like those men with like a thousand things and a little hot plate.

02:46:07.000 There's less of them now there than there used to be.

02:46:09.000 Who can say why?

02:46:10.000 I hope they're going to come back.

02:46:12.000 We'll see.

02:46:16.000 That was what I'd always, like, there was always a contingent of the American, like people chatting on cable news who would say that illegal immigration wasn't a huge thing and that people were inflating the numbers.

02:46:27.000 And then when I got here and I, no one warned me, but I was like setting up a house.

02:46:31.000 And I went to a Home Depot in the morning and it was like, I don't know, it was like 150 guys just out there.

02:46:38.000 I mean, this is old hat and Americans don't talk about it anymore because you've just all known for decades that this is what happens out front of a Home Depot.

02:46:45.000 Well, especially L.A. If you go to L.A., it was way higher numbers than L.A., I think.

02:46:50.000 Texas actually has some pretty high numbers too, though.

02:46:53.000 They have to figure out a pathway to citizenship for these folks and amnesty for people that have been here and established.

02:46:59.000 Sitting in the front door is a bitch.

02:47:01.000 Yeah.

02:47:02.000 And also, a lot of those people are good people.

02:47:04.000 Good people, hard workers.

02:47:06.000 What I liked is that the humbres out front of the Home Depot, a lot of them wearing like pro-American gear, like big American hats and bald eagle shirts and things.

02:47:14.000 So it's like, I'm going to be the most pro-American.

02:47:16.000 Yeah.

02:47:16.000 Well, they just need a pathway.

02:47:18.000 Let's make sure that they're not cartel members and criminals and murderers.

02:47:21.000 That seems easy.

02:47:22.000 Yeah.

02:47:22.000 It seems like it's doable, and it's also they're valuable.

02:47:26.000 Like these are people that come over here with ambition.

02:47:29.000 That's what this country wants.

02:47:30.000 But people want better lives.

02:47:32.000 I think if you polled Americans, like huge numbers of people would support that.

02:47:37.000 I agree.

02:47:38.000 So why doesn't anybody...

02:47:40.000 Why can't anybody get it together?

02:47:41.000 Well, the thing is, I think it's an over-correction because it was so bad for the last four years where they had an open border.

02:47:48.000 And they were encouraging people to come in.

02:47:50.000 They were encouraging people.

02:47:51.000 They were helping people.

02:47:52.000 or moving people to swing states.

02:47:54.000 The problem is when you have...

02:47:57.000 I watched the Federman one where he was going, yeah, I mean, what you got to do?

02:47:57.000 They were admitting it.

02:48:01.000 Yeah.

02:48:01.000 Admitting it.

02:48:02.000 This is crazy.

02:48:02.000 It's crazy.

02:48:03.000 Because the thing is, it affects elections in more ways than one.

02:48:07.000 Even if they can't vote, it affects the amount of congressional seats dependent upon the population, regardless of whether that population is legal or illegal.

02:48:14.000 So if you have 20 million people living in a place, you get a certain amount of congressional seats.

02:48:18.000 Regardless of if they're registered.

02:48:20.000 That's where things get weird.

02:48:21.000 That's the reality of politics in America.

02:48:24.000 And they wanted to stop that, and the Democrats did not.

02:48:27.000 The Democrats wanted that to keep going.

02:48:29.000 That was one of the things that Trump ran on.

02:48:32.000 But then also he gets in and he's like, can we get the white South Africans out of here immediately?

02:48:36.000 Can we move a million white South Africans to bring them in, but you're not bringing the persecuted Mexicans in?

02:48:44.000 It seems like a pathway would be the things I had to do that.

02:48:48.000 The Africa thing is nuts, man.

02:48:50.000 The South African thing, like the killing of the farmers.

02:48:53.000 People want to deny that that exists.

02:48:54.000 I have seen the rally.

02:48:57.000 The kill the boar, kill the farmer.

02:48:59.000 Oh, he's really, he's doing it.

02:49:00.000 And then he gets on trial and he goes singing.

02:49:00.000 I've seen it.

02:49:02.000 He killed the boom, boom.

02:49:02.000 I was saying.

02:49:03.000 And he goes, I was saying kiss.

02:49:04.000 I said, kiss the boar.

02:49:06.000 Right.

02:49:06.000 With his cold, dead eyes.

02:49:06.000 Yeah.

02:49:08.000 He's a spooky cat.

02:49:09.000 I forget his name.

02:49:09.000 Yeah.

02:49:10.000 He's a.

02:49:11.000 Yeah.

02:49:12.000 Yeah, they got some things to sort out.

02:49:14.000 Indeed.

02:49:15.000 But listen, the can.

02:49:16.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to.

02:49:18.000 That's a terrible note to go out on.

02:49:20.000 Johnny Meat, Johnny Bones said, I just re-entered the testing pool.

02:49:23.000 That lasted about two weeks.

02:49:25.000 Figured we keep everyone's options open.

02:49:27.000 A lot of the fighters are tweeting right now.

02:49:28.000 They're very excited about fighting on the White House lawn.

02:49:30.000 Oh, that's right.

02:49:31.000 They're going to fight on the White House lawn?

02:49:33.000 July 4th, 2026, White House lawn.

02:49:35.000 I knew about it.

02:49:36.000 I kept it under my hat for months.

02:49:39.000 Sorry, people.

02:49:40.000 They're going to fight in the Rose Garden?

02:49:42.000 They're going to fight on the White House lawn.

02:49:43.000 20,000 people.

02:49:44.000 25,000.

02:49:46.000 Connor's in.

02:49:48.000 He says he's going to be the president of Ireland by the next year.

02:49:53.000 He's chosen a weird time to run.

02:49:55.000 But the world's weird.

02:49:57.000 McKenna, I love you to death, brother.

02:49:58.000 Thank you for being here.

02:49:59.000 Thank you, sir.

02:49:59.000 Thank you very much.

02:50:00.000 I appreciate it.

02:50:00.000 It's been awesome having you around.

02:50:01.000 Hi, for a great time.

02:50:02.000 You're a fucking great guy.

02:50:03.000 If I said anything crazy, I didn't mean it.

02:50:05.000 You're very, very funny, too.

02:50:06.000 And if anyone hasn't seen you, just stand up, go see them.

02:50:09.000 I can't recommend you enough.

02:50:10.000 You've changed my life.

02:50:10.000 You're awesome.

02:50:11.000 Can I say something touching at the end?

02:50:13.000 Okay.

02:50:14.000 All right.

02:50:14.000 I mean, I was poor.

02:50:16.000 I have no opportunities.

02:50:19.000 I got pasted that club and it's revolutionized.

02:50:21.000 I get to pay my rent on time.

02:50:23.000 I get to do comedy often and people are nice about it.

02:50:27.000 This is, it's been very, very strange.

02:50:30.000 And I couldn't have done it if you hadn't set that club up.

02:50:32.000 I appreciate that very much.

02:50:33.000 And that's the whole reason why we set it up the way we set it up in the first place.

02:50:36.000 We wanted to make it a place where that can happen.

02:50:38.000 And like I said, about like open micers that are good, they just never saw a path and couldn't figure it out.

02:50:44.000 I think we can save some of those people in the future.

02:50:47.000 I think we can lessen the attrition rate and we can make better comics and make it a real supportive community, which is what we're really doing.

02:50:56.000 And that was the whole goal of the place is to make the best club possible.

02:51:01.000 And the best club possible has to have development.

02:51:04.000 You have to have people coming up that are really good.

02:51:06.000 It's like that's the key that a lot of these like improvs and stuff, they miss.

02:51:11.000 They don't have like a night where you can just, a bunch of people are doing 15 minutes.

02:51:15.000 They don't develop a local community.

02:51:17.000 And so they only rely on the headliners who come in on the weekend.

02:51:19.000 And the rest of the shows, you have various headliners who do one night or two nights or something like that, which is fine occasionally.

02:51:25.000 But the reality is you want a vibrant development community.

02:51:30.000 And if you don't have that, you're not going to get new talent.

02:51:32.000 You're only going to have to import talent every week.

02:51:34.000 There's three cities in all of America where you can reliably do it.

02:51:37.000 It used to just be two.

02:51:40.000 This has changed.

02:51:41.000 And Shane brought me over here.

02:51:44.000 I want to shout him out.

02:51:45.000 He's the best.

02:51:46.000 I was in Ohio.

02:51:47.000 I was having a good time, but I had no...

02:51:53.000 And then the fact that there is a place that you can come and if you're going to work hard and do it.

02:51:57.000 Well, I mean, that's insane.

02:51:58.000 It's awesome.

02:51:59.000 Ah, look, I don't want to go on about it.

02:52:01.000 We're happy to have you, brother.

02:52:02.000 I'm very touched.

02:52:02.000 Thank you.

02:52:03.000 God bless you.

02:52:03.000 Tell everybody your Instagram so they can follow you at JDF McCann, the James Donald Fools McCann Catamaran Plan.

02:52:11.000 That's a great podcast that everybody should check out.

02:52:14.000 I think they've got books of poems.

02:52:16.000 That's it.

02:52:16.000 Okay, wonderful.

02:52:17.000 Hey, thank you so much.

02:52:18.000 Thank you, brother.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 17, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2351 - James McCann

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