In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe and Andrew sit down with the band Red Clay Strays. They talk about their origin story, what it's like to be in a rock band on the road, and how they got their name.
00:00:12.000Well, I mean, we haven't done many podcasts, but uh we were on Theo's last year, and uh it you know, Theo's gets a lot of engagement, a lot of views, ours didn't do too well.
00:02:20.000This year we started touring in July, which was good because we usually start um we would usually start in uh April or when did you when did you end?
00:03:10.000And how did you guys all get together?
00:03:13.000Uh I met Drew Um through the a mutual friend.
00:03:17.000Uh we were working out in the gym together.
00:03:19.000I was in high school, and Drew, um this guy was like, hey man, I'm I got a buddy, he's kind of he's kinda down on his luck, he's like squatting in my dorm, and uh I want to give him something to do.
00:03:57.000Never had That's just where I was gonna land.
00:04:04.000Never done anything in the business though, and he just like I'm what did you say?
00:04:08.000He's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna do everything I can to help you make it.
00:04:11.000And uh I was like eighteen, and he was like twenty-two, twenty-three, and he had us play in and every single bar on the Gulf Coast, and uh we didn't know anything about the business either, so the the manager booking agent fee is you know fifteen percent.
00:04:25.000We didn't know about that, so we cut him in evenly.
00:04:27.000Yeah, and uh so he'd show up and drink beer at our shows and he'd uh he'd always be at our practices and he was fully committed, and so he got it even cut, and he he ended up turning his life around and he was able to scoot around and buy burgers and not be down on your luck anymore.
00:04:45.000Never done anything like that, and you stepped up and became a legitimate booking agent and a legitimate manager.
00:04:50.000Yeah, I mean I just saw something I knew that was incredible and I was like Alright, well, what do I need to do to get this guy in front of people?
00:05:01.000And I just I would sit in like I worked for the equipment staff at South Alabama and I would sit in the equipment room between washing jock straps and like you know, setting up cones drills or whatever and just like put post it notes up on the wall and just write numbers down and just call all these people until like somebody picked up or like hey, like what's the email for booking or whatever and I just book as much as I could.
00:05:28.000So it was basically just learning on the job, trying to figure it out as you go.
00:06:13.000The best stories are not started in some fucking boardroom somewhere where a bunch of guys sit down with headshots and demos and try to put people together.
00:06:23.000The best stories happened just kind of like, what?
00:06:43.000So we'd show up to these bars and most of the time run people out and clear the room out 'cause we were didn't know how to play music that well either.
00:06:52.000Guitar amps turned up and we would show up and just ruin people's evening and clear out a bar.
00:06:57.000They're trying to watch a football game, and we show up playing Almond Brothers and just the our guitar players just always crank their amps.
00:07:06.000We did have uh an old man drummer though, that was the only thing about that band before Red Clay Strays.
00:07:11.000Um so that was you didn't have to worry about the drums being too loud, I guess, 'cause he was just doing his thing.
00:07:17.000He ended up quitting um when we started traveling more and uh that's when we started holding auditions and we were gonna audition this one guy and he flaked uh he couldn't make the audition.
00:07:32.000We rescheduled him and he couldn't make the audition again, and then we were like, How did we get in touch with John?
00:07:46.000Uh I reached out to him and I was like, Man, I I know you play drums.
00:07:49.000That was the best band in town at the time.
00:07:51.000I was like, I know you play drums, you probably know a good bit of drummers, like you know anybody who could use some work, and uh he uh John was playing at a band called Ryan Dyer Band back home and he said, uh John just they just separated from that band, so uh John's available, you should get him for a tryout and I was like, Hey dude, you want to come play with us or whatever?
00:08:18.000And he showed up, Blair and Skinner and uh with him and his brother and like an SUV or something.
00:08:27.000We had the auditions in uh Sitchinel, Alabama, which is like up in the sticks, and he didn't have a phone.
00:08:34.000Um so he was like, uh meet me at the Hardee's at like, you know, six thirty or whatever time it was, because he did we couldn't call him once he left his house.
00:08:51.000He showed up was his with his brother who uh played piano and um his brother wasn't trying to join the band, but his brother just played with us and uh just the first song we played, we we tried them out with uh an original that we were working on, which was a terrible song also, but um Yeah.
00:09:11.000Andrew and John locked in immediately and just they hit the all the pauses together and I just remember still being blown away by that and just how quickly y'all locked in and um and it still shows today on stage their their chemistry.
00:09:25.000They're just they've got some kind of telekinetic thing going on, I think.
00:09:30.000The big thing was coming from that old man drummer and then that's the first time I've ever played with like a a real drummer besides my own dad.
00:09:40.000And me and John, I mean we can we s it's really weird how when we first started, like we can we know a lot when we played in those bars, it was improvised.
00:09:49.000You know, we're playing covers, we're not even playing them the right way, and we can hit those pauses without even looking at each other.
00:09:54.000Like we just know what each other's gonna do.
00:09:56.000So as a bass player, your drummer is your best friend.
00:09:59.000Even though we're me and John probably butt heads more than anybody in the band, but that's the relationship.
00:10:04.000That is a big part of the problem with a band is that you guys just get on each other's nerves, right?
00:10:09.000Uh I mean, just like any other I mean we're just like brothers.
00:10:12.000It's a well it's a group of guys and you're traveling all year round.
00:10:16.000You'll get pissed off at each other for sure.
00:10:17.000If if a band says they're not they don't get pissed off, they're lying.
00:10:20.000Or they just don't like each other for real.
00:10:22.000But you just we just something we actually learned as men were was how to talk about your feelings with each other too.
00:10:29.000Because in the early stages it was you know, I had anger issues, I'd just get pissed off real quick.
00:14:10.000It just seems like it's very difficult.
00:14:12.000It's very difficult to manage all these different personalities and to to keep everything rolling and keep all the the people happy and make sure that everybody feels appreciated and everybody feels like they're doing their part.
00:14:32.000If you are just chasing worldly things, I guess, and worried about me and how I'm getting done wrong or how you know he's getting on my nerves, and that's what dictates your decisions.
00:14:43.000I can see, you know, you're gonna walk away from that because people suck and people are always gonna fail you at the end of the day.
00:14:49.000But when you turn it into a I'm not doing this for me, I'm doing this to fulfill my calling that God's giving me.
00:14:56.000Um and then it becomes a selfless thing.
00:15:00.000You know, he who is greatest among you, let him be your servant is what I'll it's just always pops in my head.
00:15:05.000So it's like if I want to make this thing work, how can I serve these guys?
00:15:10.000How you know, when we'd have to share a hotel room, we would all all five of us be like, I'll sleep on the floor, no, no, you're good.
00:15:15.000You take the bed, I'll sleep on the floor.
00:15:16.000We'd have to fight over who gets the floor.
00:15:19.000And then once it becomes a selfless thing instead of a selfish thing, you're not I don't know, and when everybody shares that mindset, we're all worried about one another.
00:15:29.000I don't I don't really see how you could break up.
00:15:33.000And that sounds fantastic, because that's kind of the opposite of most rock and roll bands.
00:15:37.000Like most rock and roll bands, it is all about, you know, the lead singer or the lead guitarist and who's the most famous, who gets the most chicks and who gets the most attention.
00:16:40.000And so that really getting into, well, a creator created you, he created all of this and he put you here for a reason.
00:16:47.000Well, if that's the case, what's the reason?
00:16:49.000Okay, if this is the reason, then um I'm here I go, God, I'm gonna do it.
00:16:54.000I'm gonna I'm gonna make the leap and I don't know what how it's gonna work out, but I'm gonna just gonna trust you, work hard and trust you, and uh and that's really all we've done.
00:17:05.000We get asked quite often how do you make it.
00:17:08.000And um I don't just work hard and trust God.
00:17:11.000That's that's all that's the only thing that I can ever think to answer with because the shows we've played and the doors we've walked through led to new opportunities, you know, many days, many months, many years down the road that we could have never planned if we've just been just and then you can look back and acknowledge the the stone the stepping stones that he was placing the whole time.
00:17:35.000And uh even if it doesn't make sense in the moment, you know, just being able to go back and look at like wow, uh I see I see why that happened now.
00:19:01.000Yeah, he was a little legit at he was a leg legit Aikido practitioner.
00:19:05.000Now, the benefits and the practicality of Aikido are hotly debated.
00:19:10.000It's not really a great martial art as a standalone martial art.
00:19:14.000It's really for samurais to fight against someone who has a sword.
00:19:18.000So if you lose your sword in combat, you have to understand how to transfer the momentum of energy that someone's attacking you with a sword, you have to be an expert at manipulating their attack and using it against them.
00:19:30.000But as a standalone martial arts, not very effective.
00:19:33.000See, I thought he had some of those videos where he was like, he just touched somebody and they would fly across the room.
00:19:53.000The th the thing about it is it's just no one back then really knew what the best martial art was, so you chose one and you got really good at it.
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00:21:12.000And now the Dagastanis are taking over.
00:21:14.000Yeah, well, that's grappling, it's been around forever.
00:21:54.000But by the way, back then nobody knew what was legit and what was not legit, like these thrusts, like this they're pretending they could hit him and he doesn't feel it.
00:22:50.000And then you got a an evil manager that's feeding you pills and you're all fucked up and you're stuck in Vegas and he's gambling everything away.
00:23:43.000You believe in something that's bigger and greater than all of us.
00:23:45.000If you be believe in that, you you will not get caught in this bizarre mindset that befalls many, many stars where they think they're superior to everyone else.
00:23:59.000Everywhere they go, people are cheering when they see them, people want them to sign things and take selfies with them.
00:24:05.000Everybody wants a hug and everybody wants to be your best friend, and you really start to believe because of the the information that you're getting.
00:24:12.000The information you're getting is I'm better than everybody else, right?
00:24:14.000And if you don't have a lot of personal insight, and if you're not very objective and introspective, you will buy into that and you'll start behaving and believing like that, and then comes the pills.
00:24:37.000So somebody acting out, you know, we might let you go for a couple days, but then you're gonna wake up and we have a come to Jesus meeting.
00:24:58.000So like the the feeding into the I'm better than everybody, oh I'm famous.
00:25:03.000It's like, well, it's just it's probably downhill from here, you know.
00:25:06.000People there's they find new hobbies and new things to like, especially now faster than ever, people's attention spans are so short nowadays, it's like we're on top right now, yeah.
00:25:25.000Like I don't never want to be content with anything I'm doing.
00:25:28.000Like I I always will have notes for myself.
00:25:31.000Like even after we have like a solid show or something, and like, well, I just missed like ten notes, and it felt like guitar hero in my head, you know, when you're and they start booing you.
00:28:23.000We um and sometimes they email email our agents and stuff.
00:28:27.000We had one lady who sent us an email saying uh she decided to off herself, take a lot of pills and she wanted to go to sleep listening to music while um as she was laying there waiting to take the big nap.
00:28:44.000Um our song I'm still fine came on and it kind of you know snapped her out of it a little bit and she started crying and immediately regretted it and got up and called her sister and told her sister what she had just did and they rushed her to the hospital and did whatever at the hospital for someone who takes a lot of pills at once and saved her life pretty much and uh she's yeah, it's so moving.
00:29:10.000And um that's what really makes it worth it for us because touring is a lot, touring sucks a lot of the times.
00:29:17.000And if we were just doing it to be popular or to be famous or to be relevant, make money.
00:29:23.000I I don't think it that's enough to keep me going because being on the road is very hard.
00:29:29.000What what keeps us going is those stories and seeing how our music at our at the concert seeing how our music affects people uh and helps them in a positive way.
00:29:39.000And so I don't know, that's that's just where we get our fulfillment from.
00:29:42.000What do you think is about your music that appeals to people that aren't feeling good?
00:29:48.000A lot of it came from us not feeling good.
00:29:51.000Uh Drew and my brother Matthew are the main writers for the band.
00:29:55.000And um uh, you know, they just our song Drowning, Drew wrote that during COVID when we were driving for Uber, trying to keep the bills paid.
00:30:06.000We were my goal was to make a hundred bucks a day for Uber and uh driving for Uber Mobile Alabama sucks.
00:30:13.000Uh I'd have to do like twelve, fourteen hours a day to get that in the middle.
00:30:17.000Yeah, and then most of the time spend So that was just five years ago.
00:30:36.000I picked up like and I I was driving a Hyundai Sonata and I had to I picked up like five black dudes, they wanted to get in the Hyundai Sonata to go to the stripper club.
00:30:46.000And I was like, you can't like all five of y'all can't fit in here.
00:30:49.000I can only take like four at the most.
00:32:50.000I used to this is how naive I was I was like well doctors they go to universities they do it so that they can become the best doctor they can and then they work for these hospitals that are set up so that all the people in the city have medical care and this is like part of the city services.
00:33:08.000I I really believe that I really thought that and then I have some friends that are doctors and they would tell me no no no not only that you're incentivized you're incentivized to push certain medications you're incentivized to do surgeries that maybe people don't need and you have to challenge your own ethics because you you'll be talked into doing surgeries that this guy you could kinda could justify it but really he shouldn't get it.
00:33:32.000I'm like oh fuck man really and then you know I've had friends that left and started their own practices because of this because they tell you like you just at the end of the day like why did I go to school?
00:33:44.000Like I thought I was going to school because I wanted to learn medicine because I thought that would be really fascinating way to make a living and very rewarding you're helping people that are injured that are sick and then he got just enlightened to like what the business really is it's just about numbers.
00:34:05.000Instagram reels will scare you too with all that stuff.
00:34:08.000Oh dude I went down a rabbit hole last night just sitting in my bed I shouldn't have done this.
00:34:14.000It was like nine o'clock there's no reason for me to look at dick lengthening videos what it just popped up on Instagram you know in like the for you section.
00:34:26.000Yeah dude stay away from that for you I didn't ask for it I don't know what happened how many readers did you watch at the end oh I watched a lot of them I watched hours worth of it's fucking horrific man.
00:34:37.000It's not just that man it's like they're these guys are getting these things put in their dick so that the dicks are thicker oh my God see the thing about YouTube is YouTube you want to see some videos?
00:34:53.000So I mean I'll pull up my history YouTube can actually so the thing is this guy was like go to my YouTube video and you can see the actual surgeries I'm like no fucking way.
00:35:06.000And yeah fucking way YouTube will actually show you the surgery.
00:35:13.000We can't show any of this on camera right Jamie I'm not going to like it's educational purpose but these dudes are just digging they're just digging in dicks and and it was just horrific all right you know once you get on that dark side of uh of Instagram usually it's when Brandon sends me reels Brandon always be finding himself on that bad part and then he sends it to me and then I'm 30 minutes deep into feeling uncomfortable with my life.
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00:39:05.000How do you deal with that on a daily basis?
00:39:08.000Well, this fellow seems like he was getting a lot of play.
00:40:15.000Well, you're your mechanics are all off.
00:40:17.000So if you were an athlete and you're used to having a legs of a six foot man, and now your legs have grown six inches, like you're your arms aren't gonna be proportionate either.
00:41:17.000Look, they're gonna get to the point where with CRISPR, they're just gonna edit your genes and there's gonna be no normal looking people anymore.
00:41:23.000Like all the interesting personality quirks that you have to develop because you got a weird chin, like all that shit's gonna go away.
00:41:57.000They're gonna be able to do a lot of things.
00:41:59.000Then we're gonna be birthing super babies once they like it all uh the things usually always seem like they start good and then they go really bad.
00:42:06.000And then we're creating superhumans in the womb.
00:42:09.000We're at the cusp of some really really wild shit with AI and with genetic engineering and uh China they're I'll heard I've read something where they can like they're trying to grow babies in an artificial womb now.
00:42:20.000See, that's where that's where ethics gets a little weird, because then you're playing you're playing God then.
00:42:25.000Well, there's something that happens, it's communication between the mother and the child through the entire time.
00:42:28.000So are you giving birth to a fucking sociopath?
00:42:46.000There's there's a lot going there's communication.
00:42:49.000This is why like the mother has to like be up on her nutrients because the baby's like taking nutrients from the mother, and if the the mother doesn't have enough, the baby is taking it from the mother, so it's like an artificial womb is like you're you're opening the door for Satan.
00:43:04.000Like if you believe in in that, like if you want a soulless, bizarrely unempathetic person, what better way that's no connection.
00:43:15.000You know, that was what ha one of the things that happened to the unibomber.
00:43:18.000The unibomber, I watched the Netflix documentary on him, and one of the things that happened to him when he was young, he had some sort of a disease where he had to be separated from his mom, and they put him in a hospital with no contact.
00:43:31.000He had no for a prolonged period of time as a baby.
00:43:35.000No one picked him up, no one held him, no nothing for a long, long time.
00:43:40.000And then that wasn't fucked up enough.
00:43:43.000They entered in him into the Harvard L SD studies.
00:43:47.000And then so he was in the Harvard L SD studies and he was they were this is during the MK Ultra period.
00:43:55.000So the MK Ultra period, they were doing all sorts of experiments with people through the CIA.
00:44:00.000One of the things they were doing was a thing called Operation Midnight Climax, where they were they opened up brothels in San Francisco, and they would uh put two-way mirrors in and they would dose these Johns up with LSD.
00:44:13.000So the ladies of the night were actually working for the CIA and they would go in here, have a drink, and the guy would have a drink, and then next thing you know, he's like, whoa.
00:44:22.000And they were just trying to experiment and see.
00:44:24.000It was also a part of what the Charles Manson family was about, and they were doing all kinds of shit with people where they're trying to figure out what can we do to humans if we can manipulate them with L S D, and they did it to Kaczynski.
00:44:54.000Well, it's just goes back to what we were talking about with medicine.
00:44:57.000That there are people that are willing To do things to people that are just entirely evil for profit, for whatever justification they can come up with.
00:45:10.000And I think one of the problems with doctors, and uh my friend who's a doctor t told me this is like you just get numb when you see too many people die.
00:45:18.000He's like it's a very it's a very dangerous state of mind because you just see someone, you're like, well, he's gonna die, and then you go have a sandwich.
00:45:27.000We're getting numb as a society of seeing people die.
00:45:30.000Well, the Charlie Kirk thing fucking opened up my eyes.
00:45:33.000I I never expected so many people would celebrate that man's murder.
00:46:03.000And he you know would go around to college campuses and have arguments with people or have discussions with people, have debates with people.
00:46:11.000But it infuriated p people because they felt like this guy is going against the progress that was being made in society.
00:46:20.000But what he did not feel like was progress.
00:46:23.000Like it was a progressive agenda that was being pushed in most college campuses.
00:46:28.000It's a leftist Marxist sort of agenda.
00:46:31.000He didn't feel like that was the correct way to live, and he felt like he had arguments against it and he won and it was you know, it's a business too, right?
00:46:40.000Like he developed this big social media platform because of it.
00:46:44.000And I you know, I don't like I said, I don't agree.
00:46:47.000I don't think he some of the things he said he should have said.
00:46:49.000But the fact that people were cheering when he died, normal people, housewives, moms, like fucking people working at banks, people working at various industries, celebrating a man getting shot in front of his kids.
00:47:42.000I think I think social media has people completely twisted, and I think a lot of what has people completely twisted is not even organic.
00:47:49.000I think it's all on purpose that you're being manipulated by foreign governments, by bot farms, and by various elements, either in our government or other governments, and they do it for their own agenda for their own ends, and it's dark.
00:48:06.000There's a proverbs verse that um it's I can't remember where it's at, but it's like he who doesn't find me harms himself, and uh he who loves death hates me.
00:48:17.000And that, you know, this if you love God and you you you can't love death.
00:48:22.000You can't love somebody getting killed.
00:49:09.000And uh so I'd never want to use my platform to do that.
00:49:13.000But we're just uh uh we got so sick of seeing people put politics above humanity.
00:49:19.000We actually we had wrote a song about it um in April in the studio uh called People Hatin.
00:49:25.000And that's we wouldn't gonna put it out as a single at first we were gonna do another s another song, but after the the Charlie Kirk thing, it's just like, hey yeah, we got together and we were like I think we need to put people hating out instead for the first single because it's just we we've gotta start we've gotta stop killing each other over beliefs and stop hating each other over beliefs, you know.
00:50:01.000And most of us know that that's wrong.
00:50:03.000And that's why like when this Charlie Kirk thing happens, there's a giant blowback, and most people recognize like, hey, the as a collectively, as as a society, this is not right.
00:50:14.000Regardless of whoever that person is, whether that person's on the left or the right, they just got shot in front of the whole world.
00:50:20.000This is it's not a thing to celebrate ever.
00:50:23.000And especially when you're seeing people on the left that are supposed to be progressives.
00:50:27.000These are supposed to be the kind, compassionate, inclusive people that are celebrating gun violence.
00:50:47.000But that's that hypocrisy is just a symptom of where we find ourselves where we're all just so many of us are confused because of the rhetoric online.
00:50:59.000And again, a lot of that's not normal.
00:51:02.000It's not organic, it's not real, it's not real people, and it's not what you would ever get in real social circles of healthy people.
00:51:09.000You're only getting it through this very bizarre filter of just text on social media and videos where someone's just talking to the camera celebrating on social media.
00:51:22.000Most of the time you walk around because we travel all over the place, and most of the time when you walk around, stop watching the news, get off your phone and just walk around in society.
00:52:33.000My dad got me the I mean my my parents got me the uh you know the little sidekick and stuff.
00:52:38.000So I've always been on the Android side and then when I started working as a teenager, I I saved up and I bought my own like smartphone from one of those uh cell phone shops on like a in the strip mall.
00:53:02.000But it it is a w it's a weird thing in our society where if a kid has uh an Android phone, they're looked down on and it's like something like eighty plus percent of kids have iPhones.
00:53:14.000Man, I was it was after a show one time.
00:53:17.000It was after show one time, a long time ago.
00:53:19.000And I was talking to this girl, this is like way back in the day, and uh she's like, Yeah, well maybe we get your number.
00:53:26.000And then I pulled out my phone, she's like, Oh, you have an Android?
00:55:14.000Well, if they made an American I always said that if they made an American phone that had like a little American flag on the back, but it cost two hundred dollars more, I would buy it.
00:55:33.000Like Samsung tried to put in a they were putting uh a microchip plant in Texas and they had giant issues because they weren't getting enough.
00:55:43.000Like so the all of them don't meet their standards, you know, and a certain percentage of them weren't, and it was a much lower standard than they needed.
00:56:09.000Well, Huawei, because they were banned here, so Google and uh Apple wouldn't let them use their operating systems because it's basically a spy device.
00:57:08.000So if you're not using encrypted apps, all they need is your phone number.
00:57:11.000And even if you are using encrypted apps, the government can get into those.
00:57:15.000You know, when Tucker Carlson was trying to interview Putin, the government contacted him and said, We know you're trying to interview Putin.
00:57:21.000We were looking into your signal app, and he's like, What?
00:57:41.000I think they would can make it illegal and we still wouldn't know.
00:57:44.000Well, it probably would be illegal, but it wouldn't matter.
00:57:47.000They would find some sort of a fucking loophole.
00:57:50.000And or they'd pass some bill, they'd stick it in some farm bill, something.
00:57:54.000We think like, oh, this is good, we're gonna help the farmers.
00:57:57.000And you look in there like, hey, what's this doing in there?
00:58:00.000Yeah, I see there's some stuff in the in the big beautiful bill where it's like they were trying to sell some national parkland or something.
00:59:42.000And you know, it's the best way to control people, you know, and keep them at each other's throats.
00:59:48.000Like bring in a bunch of people that the people that live there don't want there and let them duke it out and then start instituting tighter and tighter restrictions and control.
01:00:15.000Yeah, you know that you're they're gonna try and they're gonna keep keep trying.
01:00:18.000They're gonna continue to try and they're gonna try to sneak it in, and if it's not for independent journalists that call that shit out, we would be in real trouble.
01:00:28.000They would have put it they were trying to institute a vaccine passport, and the vaccine passport would be attached to a digital ID so that you would know.
01:00:35.000But that digital ID would then be transferred to a social credit score.
01:00:39.000And and then they wanted to do a carbon tax.
01:00:41.000So they want to do uh a thing that tracks your carbon.
01:00:44.000So it tracks how many miles you drive, tracks your purchases, so it tracks how much carbon you're com you're com commit can com you're contributing to the environment.
01:01:47.000This one farmer posted a video like all of his cattle were just dead in the field.
01:01:51.000In the field, and they they said it was because of the heat or something, but this farmer had just tons of dead cows just all of a sudden.
01:01:59.000It was going on the same time as the the chicken houses burning down, so it could have just been, you know, news adding on to news kind of thing.
01:02:11.000Well, the alien thing is just another interesting topic.
01:02:15.000Like you see, you I'll get random there's random times where people are seeing all these crazy things in the sky, and uh it's like a big deal for a few days, and then you don't really talk about it anymore.
01:02:25.000Did you see the that one thing that lady was filming, she was like, Hi, do you know Jesus?
01:02:38.000Yeah, see and it the interesting thing about that though, it is it somebody in the Bible described seeing something uh one of the angels or something.
01:04:45.000Uh but he people like celebrities go out to his land, and he's like, I can call these things on command, they'll show up, and people go out to see it.
01:05:17.000I can't remember that guy's name's driving me crazy, but yeah, he uh he wrote a book called UFOs of God.
01:05:23.000And uh I started listening to it, and I'm just terrible about reading books and stuff, so I I got like the first three chapters in, but it was really interesting.
01:05:31.000Um he's worked with he's NASA showed up at his house.
01:07:05.000That's the problem is that like if you're zooming in on this thing, the stuff that flies in between that looks like it's moving really fast and flying across incredible space.
01:08:12.000I was wanting to talk about that later.
01:08:13.000So Replima came in here and she was explaining to me the book of Enoch, and I never really got into it.
01:08:19.000She's like, you know, it could have been included in the Bible, and it was a part of the the Dead Sea Scrolls, but the first half was, right?
01:08:26.000Well, the Book of Enoch is in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
01:08:31.000It's the problem with the book of the Dead Sea Scrolls, rather, it's a lot of it is deteriorated and missing chunks and stuff.
01:08:37.000But the book of Isaiah is in the Dead Sea Scrolls and it is identical word for word.
01:08:42.000Wes Huff was explaining that to a version of it that was a thousand years older, which was the most recent version before they found the Dead Sea Scrolls in the 1940s.
01:08:53.000That is why that's the book that God predicts his own coming to earth and his own death and all that.
01:08:59.000Well, the book of Enoch is the one that predicts that this is what talks about the watchers in the sky and that these gods made with humans and created the Nephilim.
01:09:12.000I've listened listened to it twice now, and I keep going back over it and just rewinding and going, what are they saying?
01:09:19.000Like what were they trying to describe?
01:09:22.000Because this sounds completely insane.
01:09:25.000When you get into like the 'cause isn't there like Egyptian stuff where the there's like men coming down from space and like Stargates, there's all sorts of weird shit.
01:09:36.000That to me is just like fallen angels.
01:09:39.000You know, it's all kind of lining up in some kind of way or another.
01:09:43.000These whatever rebelled against God and came down here, men from the sky came down here and were pretty much posing as gods and demanding people worship them.
01:09:54.000And uh isn't Enoch where they teach them about money and teach them about Sorcery.
01:09:58.000Sorcery and sorcery and agriculture and metallurgy.
01:10:03.000There's all sorts of like weird if they talk about incantations.
01:10:10.000If one gets put on you, it's like And you gotta think this is pre-Jesus and so God is separated from man.
01:10:16.000So we're just walking around as people like not knowing what's going on.
01:10:19.000Um and these things come down and they're boring giants and stuff.
01:10:23.000It's like you know, I'd probably think it's a god too, for God's sakes, you know, because there wasn't what was the Jews even a thing when the book of Enoch was wrote written.
01:10:46.000Is there any explanation of why it would be left out?
01:10:48.000Well, they felt like it didn't didn't jive with the Torah.
01:10:52.000I think that's the reason why it was left out.
01:10:55.000Well, and I mean when I say that, like the at one point the Jews were God's chosen people is f like they knew the God, the the one the I am, the one true God, and but the rest of the world didn't really know what was going on.
01:11:10.000And so they were worshiping other gods and so like aside from the Jews, the rest of humanity seeing these things walking around, it's like I'm sure they would think that's a god, you know, I'm sure they would worship that.
01:11:24.000Well what else do they have to believe?
01:11:26.000Well, if something did come and visit ancient humans.
01:11:29.000I'm I'm in the middle of this Richard Dolan book, and it's it's a very interesting book on UFOs.
01:11:34.000And Richard Dolan, who's uh very like uh objective scientifically minded author.
01:11:42.000Wa one of the things he's talking about is his gene expression.
01:11:45.000It's uh a dealele that started uh this gene uh start it was introduced through breeding.
01:11:53.000So one of the things that we know is that that it came into the human population somewhere around 40,000 years ago.
01:11:59.000And that this all geneticists agree that this was introduced through crossbreeding.
01:12:06.000So the idea was was it introduced by Neanderthals?
01:12:10.000Would it was it introduced by Denisovans, like what what type of human?
01:12:14.000Well, the problem is they don't find that gene expression in any other ancient human.
01:12:20.000Like they don't find it in Neanderthals, they don't find it, but they do find it in Asia, uh like in Mongolia, most people have it.
01:12:28.000The rest of the world, it's like seventy percent of the people have it, and they think it's responsible for creativity.
01:12:33.000They think it's responsible for this giant change in the artwork that people start producing around 40,000 years ago.
01:12:41.000And his assertion or his question, the hypothesis is that it was introduced by some other species.
01:12:48.000And this is also part of what is talked about not just in the book of Enoch, but also in the Sumerian text.
01:12:55.000They they talk about what happened that created human beings.
01:13:01.000And so what he's talking about is this one woman of h that was an academic, I forget her name, but she wrote these books about it where she believes that human beings are some sort of a hybrid species and that we were genetically manipulated to be what we are now.
01:13:17.000And I think going back to the flood, because apparent like every other religion has some type of evidence of a great flood, correct?
01:13:32.000Um that was pretty much the great reset of um I've got a he had to get rid of all that that he didn't create.
01:13:40.000And uh I forgot where I was going with that, but yeah.
01:13:44.000Well, they do all have a a flood myth.
01:13:47.000And now because of the younger dryest impact theory, we know that there most likely was massive floods all over the earth somewhere around eleven thousand, eight hundred years ago.
01:14:00.000And uh I I just think about stuff like that when they find this skull that they can't link anything to, or find stuff that doesn't they can't link anything to.
01:14:08.000It's like we don't really know what happened a long time ago.
01:14:11.000We can pretend that we did, but I personally believe there was a an advanced civilization way back in the day before all that.
01:14:18.000And there's a lot of evidence that points to that.
01:15:59.000Like some sort of an event must have happened where they were wiped out, or the the ones that were in this area were wiped out instantaneously, and he thinks it's probably some sort of a collision.
01:16:09.000Like a m well, it's a mass casualty of some soil.
01:16:13.000Well, not only that, sixty-five percent, something like that of all North American megafauna died off at the exact same time.
01:16:20.000All of it around that that same younger dryest impact theory time between eleven thousand eight hundred years ago and ten thousand years ago.
01:16:28.000Woolly mammoth, uh uh African lion, African cheetah, there was all sorts of giant sloths, all sorts of weird animals that all died off in America around the exact same time that they think this flood happened.
01:16:42.000And it used to be just complete speculation, but now they find core samples where they're they're they're finding iridium that just indicates iridium is very common in space and very rare on Earth.
01:16:53.000So when they find a layer of iridium, it indicates there's some sort of an impact.
01:16:58.000That's wild shit, man, because it could happen to us at any moment.
01:17:02.000You know, there's this guy Avi Loeb, who's a professor out of Harvard who is saying that some of these objects that we're seeing in space, they're m they're moving in very bizarre ways.
01:17:13.000They they they have much more mass and much more speed, they're inst interstellar objects, and he's speculating whether or not they're they're alien.
01:17:24.000I've been following that one a lot of the things.
01:17:25.000Yeah, this is one of the ones he's talking about.
01:17:30.000For it to come outside of our solar system on this path is just very bizarre.
01:17:36.000Very bizarre, but other astronomers say, yeah, but it just might be unique.
01:17:40.000Like there's there's a lot of stuff in space they're finding through the James Webb telescope that they didn't understand that so they had this uh idea of the universe being thirteen point seven or whatever it is, billion years old.
01:17:53.000But now they're finding these galaxies that were formed far too quickly, far like after the big bang.
01:18:00.000And so now they're starting to say, well, this might be an indication that it's quite a bit older, and that maybe it's not thirteen maybe the big bang is not thirteen point seven billion years, but that's just as far back as we can look.
01:18:13.000And as they get better and better equipment and better and better ways of looking, they'll be able to find more evidence and more information that gives them more questions and m less answers.
01:18:24.000It's like there's a quote by uh Dennis McKenna, and he said that once the bonfire of knowledge expands, the surface layer of ignorance is exposed.
01:19:16.000Well, there's also a speculation that there's something big that's outside of the Kuiper belt.
01:19:20.000There's like some other planet that it might even be a dwarf star or uh what is it called?
01:19:26.000I forget what they're called, a brown dwarf.
01:19:28.000But that we might have a binary star system, and that this the star might have died off, and it's like in a far outside of uh our own sun outside of that orbit.
01:19:40.000So there's something there's this thing called the Kuiper belt that's outside of Pluto, and it's a a belt of objects, and that's one of the reasons why Pluto got declassified as a planet because it is a little too small to be a planet, and it seems like there's a lot of these objects out there, and then they found a couple more, and they're saying, okay, it's not a planet, but there seems to be a drop-off after that which indicates something that is of a large mass exists.
01:20:13.000What was that one paper that we looked at once that they they had they had documented a planet out there that they were calling planet X. But it's like the Earth like was it like an Earth-like.
01:20:26.000I mean, this is all this is the fucking Sumerian tech stuff too, because they talk about this planet called Nibiru that comes within an elliptical orbit every three thousand six hundred years and fucks things up, and that's where the Anunnaki live.
01:20:57.000Well, the Sumerians had a detailed map of the solar system six thousand years ago.
01:21:03.000Bizarrely, with the sun in the center and all the planets that we know of in the relative size and the relative order, like the ones that are the s the right not exactly the right size because they're so fucking huge.
01:21:16.000But the bigger ones are in the bigger place.
01:21:18.000And it's it shows this map of the solar system on this clay tablet from nine thousand or six thousand years ago.
01:21:31.000I just really think there was do you think?
01:21:33.000I think it was a different type of advance, like not power lines and stuff like that.
01:21:37.000I think they honed into like natural energy from the earth.
01:21:41.000Like I heard something about the pyramids may have been like some type of a power plant because they just found where those pillars go down in the ground, so on.
01:21:50.000I th this dude Ben Van Kirkwick, um, and they've used that same uh technology to find this enormous labyrinth that existed, but that was also documented historically.
01:22:01.000Herodotus talked about it and different historians have talked about it.
01:22:04.000This labyrinth that's even more impressive than the pyramids underground.
01:22:10.000And inside they've so using this technology, they've found this forty meter, it's forty meter, this metallic.
01:22:18.000They don't know what kind of metal it is, but there's a metallic tic-tac shaped object that's forty meters long at the center of this labyrinth.
01:22:28.000So they built a dam in the nineteen sixties to uh help the farmers out, and the dam unfortunately fucked up the water table, so this labyrinth is now flooded.
01:22:37.000So you can't get in it unless they do something to change the water and you know, change how the water is channeled or build a tunnel inside of it, but the water table has made it impossible to get into it without doing that.
01:22:49.000But this thing, because of this tomography, this uh ground penetrating radar, they know that there's an enormous metallic object from thousands and thousands of years ago that's forty meters long.
01:23:02.000Are they actively trying to figure it out, like get in there?
01:23:06.000There are researchers that are, but the problem is there's a lot of resistance from the Egyptian government.
01:23:17.000I've I've seen uh one article they just discovered some ancient city and it was like a they discovered something.
01:23:25.000It was related to Christianity, like they discovered something, Christ is king, and but long story short, the whole entire project just got shut down and they passed the law you can't dig there for like twenty years.
01:23:36.000I think you're talking about go Bekli Tepe.
01:23:46.000A farmer was uh I think it was a sheep herder, actually.
01:23:50.000He found some stone that was in the ground, he's like kicked at it and like cleaned it off a little bit, and then realized it had a right angle to it, and it's like, what the hell is this?
01:23:58.000And he dug a little deeper, and then they called in the archaeologists and they said, Hey, uh we got something here.
01:24:04.000And then they discovered that there's these concentric circles and these huge stone columns and 3D animals, and they've only uncovered five percent of it so far.
01:24:14.000And uh they kind of stopped digging because they get enormous amount of tourist revenue where people are gonna want to come to the site and they didn't want to fuck that up, and you know, there's a lot a lot of a lot of weirdness when you let these governments decide what can and can't be explored.
01:24:31.000Because through ground penetrating radar, they realize that this this site, even though they've only uh excavated five percent of it, is one of many, many sites that are in that area.
01:24:42.000And the age of it is really fascinating because this was intentionally covered somewhere around eleven thousand years ago.
01:24:50.000So that means that someone decided to cover this all up with dirt eleven thousand years ago, which means they don't even know how old it is.
01:24:58.000It could be two thousand, three thousand years older than that.
01:25:18.000Like I think because olive trees are protected, so if they covered it with olive trees, you couldn't dig into the ground, you couldn't remove the olive trees.
01:25:26.000It was like a way to stop people from looking around.
01:25:50.000The giant stuff is weird because there's a lot of documentation of people finding giants like enormous giant bones, ten, fifteen foot tall humans.
01:25:58.000And then there's also the Nephilim in the Bible that are giants that are that consumed everything.
01:26:04.000You know, that were I mean, David and Goliath, there's giants in the Bible.
01:26:08.000And it makes you think like, okay, is it a giant like the mountain from the Game of Thrones?
01:26:12.000You know, like just people were shorter and relatively back then.
01:26:18.000Right, but but probably some people weren't.
01:26:31.000The giants in the Bible and the giants in historical accounts, it seems different.
01:26:35.000It seems like it was a totally different species of human.
01:26:38.000And again, if we just found this guy recently that's a million years old, and now we know.
01:26:45.000So forever they were saying that human beings I mean the the timeline used to be Homo sapiens emerged 50,000 years ago, and then they moved it to 150, then they moved it to 250, 300.
01:27:18.000Not until they did their own, you know, figured it out for themselves or tested on what they want to do.
01:27:22.000Well, if they would want people to know, but I don't know why they wouldn't want people to know.
01:27:26.000Like, why do I why am I convinced that they would hide that?
01:27:30.000Well, if there is uh antichrist on his way, and he his goal he already knows he lost.
01:27:36.000So his goal at this point is just to destroy as much as possible, you know, get as many souls as possible.
01:27:41.000And finding stuff like that that would prove the Bible more true would turn more people to Christianity or tur to God, the one true God, than I could see where if there is like some type of spiritual force that is in somewhat control, then I could see that's the only way I can make sense of it is like why cover up progress?
01:28:04.000And that might be also related to good and evil in a lot of ways.
01:28:08.000Loving yourself and not you're supposed to love God over yourself.
01:28:11.000And being the person that has the knowledge and the person that distributes that knowledge and is the gatekeeper of it is a very intoxicating thing for a lot of these academics.
01:28:21.000And if all of a sudden something comes along that and this is the speculation about what happened with the Smithsonian, that they took that stuff and just fucking tucked it away.
01:28:32.000They would want to have you know, secretly do their own tests without anybody knowing about it.
01:29:28.000There's a lot of people that go out of their way to try to disprove it.
01:29:30.000But when you you get into the dating of the cloth, so it used to be they were saying that it was only a few hundred years old.
01:29:37.000But now they're saying that the the the way the cloth is made, the it is the cloth is made that's exactly consistent with the time that Jesus was alive, and that more tests need to be done to find out the exact age of it.
01:29:51.000Because the problem is like you don't know like what piece they studied, and you know you're not studying the entire thing.
01:29:57.000And also the image of it is bizarre because the image of it, you really only see Jesus when it's a negative of it.
01:30:06.000And they don't know how that image was put on there.
01:30:10.000It wasn't stained, it wasn't burned on there.
01:31:57.000Well, it's six hundred and fifty years if they've been debunking it for six hundred and fifty years, you gotta assume it's at least six hundred and fifty years old.
01:32:03.000So the the thing is like, see, between it's been dated between thirteen fifty-five and thirteen eighty-two.
01:32:19.000Medieval document is revealed the authenticity of the shroud that many believe wrapped in crucified uh was being called into question perhaps as early as thirteen fifty five.
01:32:28.000Okay, well that means that it existed thirteen fifty-five.
01:32:39.000Deceptions by clergymen, his writings now considered the oldest written rejection of the relic, predate the previous earliest documented criticism by the bishop of Troy S Pierre D Arcis in 1389.
01:32:52.000So either way, we know it's at least six hundred plus years old, and we we know that the way that it was put on there was not stained, it was not painted.
01:33:03.000And if you look at it like that, they didn't even know that until they came up with photography, until they could take an an image of it and make it a negative.
01:33:12.000They didn't see the face of Jesus and all the the depictions.
01:34:20.000They don't know how to I mean, they're saying they could reproduce it today, but I don't think anybody has.
01:34:26.000And also, how are you gonna reproduce it to such an extent with So much detail that is m that matches the biblical depiction of the crucifixion.
01:35:38.000I don't know about that because the Ark of the Covenant was when God the Father's presence was here on earth, not through Jesus old Testament, the I am was down here and that's what he resided in.
01:35:49.000And you had to do all these things to be in his presence, or you would literally just die because you know he's holy and to me it's like lightness and dark cannot list exist in the same place, so you whatever.
01:36:02.000But the God's God the Father's presence isn't there anymore, so I don't understand why it would still be messing people up.
01:36:10.000Well, we don't know what they were writing down.
01:36:13.000The problem with all of ancient all ancient religious texts, let's assuming there was real events.
01:36:20.000The problem is a lot of these things were told as an oral tradition for a hundred, five hundred a thousand years before they're ever even written down.
01:36:30.000They write 'em down in Aramaic, they write 'em down in Hebrew, they write 'em and then they have to translate it and they translate it to Greek and Latin and then eventually English.
01:36:41.000When I read these things, when I read the Bible or if I read the book of Enoch or any of these ancient texts, or I'm I'm always trying to say, okay, what what would what were they trying to document?
01:36:58.000And forget the problem is people are really bad at telling the truth.
01:37:05.000Like human beings, when they see something fantastic, they always add their own little flavor to it.
01:37:10.000People add their own little thing to it.
01:37:12.000If they are of a certain belief, they're gonna attach that belief to whatever this thing was.
01:37:17.000So it's uh it's no question that these people held whatever that was in such high regard and it meant so much to them that they like like the book of Isaiah, where it's verbatim that they wrote it verbatim for a thousand years.
01:37:33.000Back when they started out, they were writing things down on animal skins.
01:37:37.000That's one of the things about the the Dead Sea Scrolls that's so fascinating, is they had to do genetic testing.
01:37:43.000So they're writing these things down on these animal skins, and they had to make sure that the skin of this one is the same cow as the skin of this one.
01:37:53.000So if they do like genetic testing to make sure it's the same cow skin.
01:37:57.000So, okay, we got all the skin from this cow and it's in this group of of text, so start to start decoding it.
01:38:04.000That's an interesting way of doing it.
01:38:37.000Well, some tribe stole the Ark, and uh like the next day they the next morning, like everybody was dead from stealing the Ark, and they pretty much said, Hey, come get this thing, take it back.
01:38:52.000Well, that's what people believe is in this church in Ethiopia.
01:38:55.000You know, because there's these Ethiopian Jews who also, their Bible is the book of Enoch.
01:40:13.000Or is this something that people realize that there is a developing aspect of human consciousness or an aspect of human consciousness that used to exist that we forgot that we don't know how to do anymore.
01:40:28.000It is because the remote viewer thing, they spent a fuckload of money on that and they they kept that program going on for a long, long time.
01:40:35.000And you know, I don't know what they discovered or what they didn't.
01:40:38.000You know, it's you unless you're in the room with the people that have the top, top, top secret information.
01:43:55.000The only people that would really need to know are the people who made the footage, the people that are involved in the filming and the actual astronauts themselves.
01:44:32.000And if you wanted to gain techno technological and you know ethical and moral superiority over the evil communists, you could see why you would make some sort of a rationalization why you should fake that we have the ability to go to the moon.
01:44:49.000Because the ability to go to the moon is not just scientific, it's military.
01:45:29.000They're they all throughout history, all throughout the United States history in the 1960s, during the same time where they were supposedly going to the moon, they lied constantly at every fucking turn.
01:46:32.000But supposedly what they're doing is giving they want to get all the generals together and give them some sort of a a moral and ethical mandate.
01:46:43.000Like preparedness, this is what we want the military to be.
01:48:02.000It is wild, but it's like it's always been wild.
01:48:04.000And this is one of the good things about uh Trump being elected and Trump in office is that kind of threw a muz they didn't want M to be the president and threw a monkey wrench into all these things that they were doing, and you get to see a lot of these people scramble and you get to see like oh this is this is there's so much like all the doge stuff where they did uncovered all these NGOs.
01:48:53.000He said what you would do is you would make this non profit and you would call this not you'd put a bunch of money into it.
01:48:59.000So you like you put like 10 million dollars, relatively small to them.
01:49:03.000Ten million dollars this thing and call it like um agency for peace, center for peace, whatever it is.
01:49:10.000And then that becomes a non-government organization, and then you get politicians to dump tons of money into this NGO, and then through this NGO, you profit.
01:49:23.000And there's so many of them, they couldn't even keep track of them.
01:49:26.000And the more they dug into it, the more they started calling Elon a Nazi, and it just got wild.
01:49:30.000Well, they don't like when the elites don't like when the curtain's pulled back.
01:49:33.000Well, that was the curtain being pulled back.
01:49:35.000That was the curtain being pulled back in a way that most people were not aware.
01:49:37.000And when I brought Mike Benz in and Mike Benz laid it all out and he was explaining that what the what USAID was for was the things that were too dirty for the CIA to get involved in.
01:49:47.000So a lot of it was like regime change operations.
01:49:51.000He was like outlining all these different regime change operations that were all being paid for, and then your tax dollars being dumped into these NGOs, and then people are pulling money out of it.
01:51:03.000Yeah, someone just took a still image, you know?
01:51:05.000The guy literally has a chain around his neck that was given to him by one of the mothers of one of the hostages in Israel that says bring them all home.
01:51:33.000It started off being pretty strong and having a lot of weight, but now that you know, it's just like you've got that they use it all the time in a Nazi, and then the if you're not, you're communist.
01:52:05.000It's squirrely as fuck, and the government just is too big.
01:52:08.000It's too big, there's too much going on, and you can only do so much to make it effective.
01:52:13.000And so this administration has four years, and who knows what they're gonna be able to get done or not get done, and there's a lot of things they're doing that make people very upset, like the all the ice stuff and the raids and you see iceberg cubes, tour bus.
01:53:23.000And then the mayor came out and said, We're making the declaration, no one can sleep on the street, you can no longer loiter, you can only do the and then go look at San Francisco right now.
01:53:58.000What if I wanted to ruin society and get it to a point where everybody you needed to control things because it got so chaotic that you could institute some sort of a digital ID and institute social credit score.
01:54:11.000You would you would I mean I'm not saying that that's what they're doing, but that's how I would do it.
01:54:15.000What I would do is I would just let people out of jail the moment they do anything, let them camp on the streets, give them money for drugs, just let 'em just let it go crazy, and then have everybody like scrambling, please take away our freedom to give us safety.
01:54:31.000Well, you can't blame people for asking these kinds of questions when you go to other countries and it's safe to walk around at night and it's a pretty clean city.
01:54:39.000It's like why don't why don't we have this?
01:54:41.000You know, you can't blame a society for asking those kinds of questions from their leaders.
01:54:46.000Why are you alive and why don't you just clean up for a foreign government to come visit?
01:54:51.000What's this cool or whatever, but you proved that you could.
01:54:53.000And then like, why why don't we just have that all the time?
01:54:57.000I think there needs to be more stuff directed towards mental health.
01:55:01.000A lot of those homeless people and people on drugs is there some of them are like mentally ill and 100%.
01:55:08.000Can't but we don't have any we don't have any treatment for people like that hardly.
01:55:11.000Well, it all skyrocketed during the Reagan administration because they changed the like the laws in terms of like where what what you're supposed to do when someone's mentally ill.
01:56:12.000I mean, the best stories ever are people that had they're they were in the gutter, like living on the streets, and now all of a sudden they're helping people.
01:56:19.000They run some sort of a non profit food kitchen and they're helping people get clean and they found life's purpose and you know, running, you know, whether it is some sort of a uh r religious class or something that gives people hope and gives people something that you know then they can tell you like, hey, I used to be where you are and now I'm not, and now I'm helping people.
01:58:31.000And we need to find common ground and instead of like fighting and instead of polarizing people.
01:58:37.000And this is one of the problems that I have with this administration is that they're really good at like pointing fingers at the other side and polarizing and really bad at uniting us all.
02:02:23.000That's that's weird about social media too, is the algorithm like some like someone left-leaning will have a completely different comment section than someone right-leaning.
02:11:12.000Everybody's always it's just so blows my mind, even growing up as a kid, all these fat burning pills and all these shortcuts to lose weight and the Ozempic thing.
02:11:21.000It's like not you will there's no shortcut.
02:11:38.000It's just like getting momentum going.
02:11:40.000Where you're doing something positive every day.
02:11:42.000And then you know, next thing you know, it's five days in a row, next thing you know, it's a month in a row, you're like, I'm feeling fucking good.
02:11:48.000I got I really have a good program going on now.
02:12:35.000Well, I think like with our grandparents, they didn't the importance wasn't known yet of how important moving like if you don't use your joints, you're gonna lose them when you're old.
02:12:43.000And that's why we have, you know, old people are all slumped over and old.
02:12:46.000I hope when our generation gets there, we know how important exercise is and when we're eighty years old, we can still run a mile, you know.
02:12:53.000Or you just go to the doctor and they give you a new body.
02:16:13.000They're busting their ass all the time, they don't have time to make kids.
02:16:16.000I mean, if you're like super dedicated to it to work and super disciplined, and Korea, uh South Korea in particular, is very very disciplined culture, very hard working culture.
02:16:26.000So if they're career oriented and disciplined, those are the type of people that have less kids.
02:16:30.000I'd like to see where they're the highest and where they're the lowest and see you know, is it like Europe?
02:16:36.000Is it Northern Europe producing more children?
02:16:38.000I've seen a map of it, I can't remember what's what, but poor countries.
02:17:26.000So our first time 2024 was a wild year for us.
02:17:29.000Like we got into Kill Tony and we were loving it and watching it, and then a couple months later it's like, you guys want to go see Shane Gillis?
02:17:43.000You know, and so we were starstruck immediately.
02:17:48.000And then met Shane and we kind of felt like Shane didn't know who we were, so we think he slipped off to the green room to look us up and come up.
02:17:56.000It's like you guys just had a number one hit, congratulations.
02:18:13.000And they were like, hey, somebody was like, uh Rogan wasn't gonna come out or not, but he wants to meet you guys, so you know, he's gonna come out a midsies and talk to you guys.
02:18:52.000And so we I was sitting there waiting on my time to strike, and I turned around to talk to somebody, and I turned back around where you were and you were gone.
02:18:59.000So I was like, I felt like just the the biggest hammer drop of all time.
02:19:04.000I felt extra bad because I was told that you wouldn't want to come out, but you were coming out to meet us, and I felt like we just sat there and ignored you.
02:20:39.000If somebody show sends me a video and I watch some guy get slap KO'd, I will watch it because I watched two hours or an hour of fucking dick operations last night.
02:20:47.000How do you feel about like bare knuckle?
02:20:50.000I mean uh it's dangerous, it is skillful.
02:20:54.000It's like there's guys that are really good at it and guys that avoid being hit and guys that are just really durable and they make their mark and that.
02:21:01.000Like look, if you could punch someone with regular gloves, why can't you punch someone bare knuckled?
02:21:06.000It's probably better for your brain because you can't hit get hit as hard slightly not standing there just waiting for it.
02:21:11.000You get a lot of that connection though, when they hit and you don't have a glove one, you see you see them.
02:21:17.000Yeah, but you see the the shock it puts through you.
02:21:20.000The noise power slap makes in real life is uncanny.
02:22:03.000And then say, oh, this will be my chance.
02:22:05.000And you would we I after where we left our seats and then we were going out, and then you immediately stood up and walked right in front of where I was sitting.