In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the legendary comedian, writer, and podcaster joins us to talk about his early days on the radio airwaves of the late 60s and early 70s. He talks about how he got his start on the airwaves, and how he went on to become one of the most successful comedians of all time.
00:00:51.000And I I couldn't I couldn't match that, you know.
00:00:53.000So I said, I said, Well, you see this?
00:00:56.000I said, These are every one of these, every one of these hairs is a highly advanced, finely tuned antenna to higher dimensional state spaces of information.
00:01:06.000And so that was our joke about hair and and no hair.
00:01:09.000Imagine if like that's what made you enlightened how much hair you had, and when it started to fall out, you got dumber.
00:01:15.000Like I said, they they every decade of my life they're saying if you have it this decade, you can keep it.
00:01:20.000So when I hit my 70s, they said that's interesting.
00:01:22.000You got this this so you can probably keep it.
00:01:25.000If you have minoxidal, like if you got like really good at it today, and there's a bunch of different uh DHT inhibitors that are topical that they can use.
00:01:32.000My friend Derek from Derek More Plates More Dates, it's a website.
00:01:36.000He's got a bunch of like protocols and how to save your hair.
00:01:42.000Um but we were talking about Art Bell when we came in here because there's a photograph of art on the wall that like was one of the most important things for me to put up.
00:01:49.000Like we talked about it, and Jamie and I were like, oh, you gotta get it, we gotta get a metal picture of Art Bell.
00:01:56.000When I was driving home from the comedy store at like one o'clock in the morning, and I was listening to AM radio coast to coast with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nye.
00:02:31.000He had me on this program before I had my first book.
00:02:33.000I self-published my first two books, and I was doing talks uh all over up and down the the West Coast, uh up in the Vancouver, and he had heard somebody in his shop had been the one of those talks, and he invited me on.
00:04:00.000And what they hear on the radio can be interpreted in a million different ways, and it's uh you know, I think there's responsibility that comes with saying things.
00:04:09.000If you're gonna say it, make sure it's accurate.
00:04:12.000Yeah, and uh your intention, like what are you trying to do?
00:04:15.000Like uh I'm never trying to hurt someone's feelings.
00:05:44.000Well, we had Richard Hoagland on night after night after night after night for weeks on end when when that came out.
00:05:49.000And actually that face on Mars had a lot to do with my my career path, actually.
00:05:55.000Well, so what is your take on all this?
00:05:57.000Because one of the things that happened was with the face on Mars is the initial images were very grainy but fascinating.
00:06:05.000Because it did kind of look like a face, but maybe even more remarkable because sometimes there's faces like in the side of a rock, it looks like a face.
00:06:13.000More remarkable was the geometric pattern of the base of it.
00:08:38.000And when they did release them, they ended up pixeling out a whole bunch of stuff, which made it look even more obvious than it was.
00:08:46.000They're just fucking with us at this point.
00:08:47.000Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So you gotta say, what is it on on the the lunar surface that we paid for with our tax dollars that we're not supposed to be seeing?
00:08:54.000And these were these were uh tower structures.
00:09:11.000What I'm saying is what the through freedom information, what have you ever seen the undoctored image?
00:09:16.000No, what they were forced to release, why in the world would they be pixelating the images that are on there that actually make them look even even more obvious than they are?
00:09:26.000So what we're seeing, what Hoaglin was talking about, what you're seeing on Mars is not happening in the vacuum.
00:09:31.000It's happening, we're seeing the same thing on the lunar surface to varying degrees.
00:09:36.000On Mars, there were three-sided, four-sided, five-sided pyramids.
00:09:39.000Well, the one in the upper right-hand corner.
00:09:49.000We're sending the Viking probes, Viking one, Viking II in the 70s, went to Mars.
00:09:55.00019,000 images were captured from the orbiting uh part of the mission.
00:10:01.000The other craft landed on the surface, and I I can just imagine being on the surface seeing this.
00:10:07.000It's it's like this this thing is like a spider comes down the cloud of dust and this little tube pops up and some sticky dental floss stuff shoots out, and then they reel it in to collect dirt and microbes and they reeled into broth because they're looking for evidence of life on Mars and it's happening next to massive monuments and geometric structures that are now dated about 50,000 years BP before present.
00:10:35.000So they're looking for microbes and signs of life next to the most massive signs of life that you could imagine.
00:10:50.000Those were uh when the Sidonia mission, these that's the Sidonia scientists are are estimating 50 50,000 years, and the same with the the lunar.
00:11:10.000You know, they're looking at strata and things like that.
00:11:13.000And from the lunar sites, you know, they brought back samples.
00:11:17.000And I'm hesitating because I don't know how deep you want to go with all this, but these are deep as you want.
00:11:22.000Well, the you know, the samples that came back from the lunar surface had traces of um of metals that do not occur nationally in ma in nature, naturally in nature.
00:11:31.000They are the product of um, you know, advanced uh machinery.
00:12:55.000China was never part of that agreement.
00:12:57.000So China has said when they land, they're going to televise live what they find on the lunar surface to the people of the Earth.
00:13:07.000My sense, Joe, and this is this will lead into a whole conversation we're going to have here.
00:13:12.000I think they'll find uh the archaeological structures that we know are there that we've seen in the photographs.
00:13:19.000The inscriptions on those on those structures, we're going to be able to read.
00:13:24.000Because there's a a thinking that those structures are from E.T.s From another time, but the evidence suggests they're from us, from a time in our past, a cycle of civilization where we did great and beautiful things by working together until we destroyed one another through war and that we're repeating that cycle again.
00:13:46.000So when they send it to that, like drawing a lot of conclusions.
00:13:49.000Isn't there other possibilities for what happened to that?
00:13:51.000Well, here's this is where I'm going with this.
00:13:53.000When they when they see what's on those temple walls, they're they're going to see inscriptions in languages that we already recognize.
00:13:59.000And that will be the smoking gun, like CUNY's.
00:14:06.000Because this is what the the researchers who are working on these projects right now, and they're combining this with so many of what the ancient texts have always told us.
00:14:23.000And this is where it gets into a really kind of a sticky conversation because it depends on how you know people interpret these things.
00:14:44.000What would it mean if we found on the surface, on the lunar surface, evidence of us, humans from another time, uh leaving a message in our own languages, cuneiform, Sanskrit, uh those kinds of things.
00:15:00.000It could be one of the most unifying factors, right when we're on on the precipice of war.
00:15:24.000I think uh you've had guests on that have talked about this in the past, I think.
00:15:27.000When our space program was active, uh there were broadcasts from the lunar surface that were cut off, and astronauts had seen things that they were not allowed to see and not allowed to share.
00:15:46.000Well, and some of them are leaving this world now, and on their you know, on their deathbed, they're they can't believe that this hasn't been made made public already.
00:15:56.000So there have been, you know, recordings and videos and things, and I I think they're authentic.
00:16:42.000Well, you know, yes, and kind of a little bit, a little bit, because we d if there's no evidence at all that it's not even an interview with a guy who talks about when I was on the moon, I saw writing.
00:16:54.000Well, then this is where you start going into the ancient texts and the traditions that are relating our our relationship to intelligences from from beyond this world.
00:17:13.000Well, this is this is what I think is important.
00:17:15.000It is in religions, but I think you can break out their historical text and there's religious text.
00:17:20.000So if you're reading the Bible, there's religion and history in the Bible.
00:17:25.000If you're looking at Sumerian, uh Akkadian, um Babylonian text from the Mesopotamian era, they're telling similar stories, and and you've had guests on talking about this where the stories are similar, but they're the religion uh is not part of that.
00:17:43.000And so uh I think what we're doing, we're kind of beating around the bush uh to a deeper conversation here, and that's why I've hesitated a couple of times, because I I just don't want us to you know to um to get so far down one side that oh don't worry about that.
00:18:48.000They'll develop an arc in a storyline.
00:18:51.000And if you're early on, they're going to ask you questions to support that arc in that storyline.
00:18:57.000Five interviews down, somebody's going to come on and they're going to introduce something and and the producer is going to say, oh, there's a new arc and new storyline, and now everything that you interviewed for may not be relevant in that conversation anymore.
00:19:10.000So I don't think you can control that.
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00:22:58.000We now can do what used to sound like science fiction.
00:23:02.000If you ever saw the the first Jurassic Park where they pulled the DNA out of the fossilized remains of ancient forms of life.
00:23:10.000In the movie they brought them back to life.
00:23:12.000To the best of my knowledge, we haven't done that.
00:23:14.000What we have done is we can extract that DNA from the bone marrow of fossilized remains of beings that we used to believe were our ancestors.
00:23:24.000And what's happening is, and if this is a mind blower, we know that we didn't descend from Neanderthal.
00:23:29.000We shared the earth with them, certainly, and and some people have some Neanderthal DNA because of that, but we did not descend from them, and we didn't descend from many of the other forms that you see on those traditional trees.
00:23:42.000You know, you've got modern humans here and all these all these lines connecting, but if you look close at the lines, most of them are broken lines, Joe, because there's no solid evidence.
00:23:51.000It's called inferred or speculative relationships.
00:23:56.000I've got I've I've got a picture of it here if we want to see that.
00:23:59.000But what they're showing is that we showed up about 200,000 years ago.
00:24:07.000Now there's a little evidence that may have been back as as far as 300,000.
00:24:12.000But the the kicker is that we can now look at the DNA and reverse engineer it and say, what did it take to get where we are?
00:24:20.000And what scientists are now calling the the smoking gun, and there's still a lot of controversy around this, is uh human chromosome number two.
00:24:29.000Human chromosome number two is the second largest chromosome in in every cell of the body.
00:24:34.000It's got about twelve hundred or so genes in that chromosome, and just one of them, uh gene TBR number one, is responsible for most of the brain that we have for our neocortex.
00:24:47.000So our humanness, our empathy, sympathy, compassion, love, our cognitive abilities, uh the mirror neurons, all these kinds of things are because of that one gene.
00:24:58.000Well, where this gets really interesting is where did chromosome two come from?
00:25:03.000And scientists have the answer, but they don't like the answer.
00:25:08.000Because uh chromosome II is the product of of a fusion.
00:25:12.000Uh proceedings from National Academy of Sciences, the volume Genetics says this very clearly.
00:25:18.000We conclude that the origin of human chromosome II uh is the product of an ancestral fusion of telomere-to-telomere fusion of two pre-existing chromosomes.
00:25:37.000You got two fully, two fully form, fully functional chromosomes, and uh on the end are the the telomeres uh that protect those chromosomes when the cells divide.
00:25:53.000It's a trauma in a cell when those when those chromosomes are pulled apart and some of the DNA doesn't make it.
00:26:01.000So nature puts telomeres on the end to take the hit, so the good DNA remains intact, and that's why it's on the ends.
00:26:08.000Human chromosome two, those telomeres are right in the middle of the chromosome where they shouldn't be, because those chromosomes were fused together about uh uh 200,000 years ago when we appeared, and if that was the only one, you could say, well, maybe it's a fluke.
00:26:28.000I'm a musician when I I'm not doing what I'm doing now, long before I was uh a researcher.
00:26:33.000And one of the things I always used to to wonder about, you know, we share 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees, but you don't hear chimpanzees sing.
00:26:43.000You know, you're never gonna hear chimpanzee sing leads up one stairway to heaven.
00:26:49.000I mean, 98% of the DNA is we share with them, but it's because of of chromosome seven.
00:26:56.000And for about 175 million years, this chromosome was stable and all primates, all of them, orangutan, gorilla, chimps, all the primates.
00:27:06.000All of a sudden, there's this little this little switch of a couple of genes that connected our tongue and our brain and our jaw, and we can sing and we can have complex speech like no other form of life.
00:27:22.000What are the odds of that happening when chromosome 2 is fusing?
00:27:27.000So I've worked with scientists uh my whole life, both in academia and in uh in the corporations.
00:27:35.000I was a problem solver for Fortune 500 companies uh through the late 70s, 80s, and 90s.
00:27:43.000And one of the things I've seen about scientists is fascinating, is that there is one way of thinking that says we take all the evidence and we force it into a pre-existing model, like all the new discoveries, trying to force that into Darwin's theory of evolution, or we allow the new evidence to lead to the story that it tells.
00:28:07.000And this is where science is stuck right now, because the old theory, Darwin's theory of evolution is in trouble, and it's the DNA is the reason it's in trouble.
00:28:16.000It's no longer superficial or you know, fossil evidence.
00:28:22.000Uh and the new story suggests at the very least uh the a scientist has to say there's been some kind of intelligent intervention.
00:28:31.000And this is where science gets stuck, because science is it's not equipped to talk about any kind of an intelligent intervention.
00:28:39.000But that ties in to everything that's happening now, you know, if we're going to talk about ancient civilizations or if we're going to talk about we've been here before, are we going to talk about what it is that is the disclosure, all of those kinds of things.
00:28:56.000So science is kind of at the crossroads right now.
00:29:01.000There is something called the standard model, and that applies to evolution, and what the evidence suggests is that we are the product of an intelligent and an intentional act.
00:29:11.000Who or what that is, that's where it gets it it can get sticky.
00:29:19.000We've had physicists on here, and really good physicists, that and some of them are not aware of some of the new information that's come out now.
00:29:27.000But when I was in school back in the 50s, 60s and 70s, I was taught that the universe is dead, inert, just cold, uh, and we happen to be lucky biology.
00:29:39.000You know, that's that's kind of what they used to teach.
00:29:42.000Now, physicists are suggesting the universe is alive, it is intelligent, and it's conscious.
00:29:48.000And one of the reasons for this, and you can go to the NASA website and you can you can look at some of these images, the uh James Webb Space Telescope, they're showing galaxies that are in proximity of something that is dangerous to them, like an exploding, you know, whatever.
00:30:08.000And what they'll do is they'll create jets from the center, uh both directions, these jets that actually move them out of the way.
00:30:16.000And I talk about, I've got a new book, and I talk about that in the new book.
00:30:44.000If if our universe is alive and intelligent and conscious, and we're the product of an intentional act, we solve our problems, Joe, and we build our world based on the way we've been taught to think about ourselves.
00:31:00.000We um we apply our technology based on the way we've been taught to think about ourselves.
00:31:06.000And we have been taught that we are a flawed form of life, that uh we are powerless victims of the world around us, and because of that, this is going to lead into this whole conversation.
00:31:22.000And that savior is being touted as technology.
00:31:26.000So now we are living at this time where we're being Encouraged, indoctrinated, coerced, mandated sometimes to embrace the technology outside of our bodies because we have been conditioned to believe that we are a broken, flawed form of life.
00:31:46.000And you're seeing this play out in the AI conversation.
00:31:49.000You're seeing it play out in um what's called the transhuman movement, the the intentional movement to replace our humanness with computer chips in the brain, chemicals in the blood, RFID chips under the skin.
00:32:04.000And it's all playing out right now, Joe.
00:32:06.000I mean, this this can't go on for you know another twenty years because it's moving too fast.
00:32:15.000And this I'm very passionate about this.
00:32:16.000The experts are saying unless we change our trajectory right now, we very probably are the last generation of pure humans that the world will ever know that by 2032, when you go to the supermarket or go to the airport, the people you talk to will be some hybrid, maybe some more and some less, but will have some kind of technology embedded into their into their bodies.
00:32:43.000I was on a panel recently, and I was with a group of scientists, and they said, well, what's wrong with that?
00:33:24.000All right, you're gonna I'm gonna lose some brain cells.
00:33:26.000Well, what I'm gonna say next is not a reason to drink the beer.
00:33:29.000But what they found, there's a part of the human brain, it's the hippocampus that is producing new brain cells until the last breath we take on this this earth.
00:33:42.000If we do not use those new brain cells in a meaningful way within about seven to ten days, the body says, Oh, you didn't use it, so you must not need it, and those cells will atrophy and die.
00:33:56.000That makes sense because I always feel dumber when I come back from vacation.
00:34:01.000Are you drinking beer on the on vacation?
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00:36:46.000Now because of epigenetics, all of that can be reversed.
00:36:50.000When the kids are put into a healthy environment, go outside and play with your friends, you know, they're young enough that they can reverse that.
00:36:57.000But I spent a lot of time with shamans in um in the Yucatan and in um in Peru, Costa Rica, places like that.
00:37:06.000And they've they found the same thing.
00:37:08.000Uh the shamans that maybe do, you know, 5,000 ayahuasca journeys because they're leading groups, and every time the group does it, they do it.
00:37:20.000Their visual cortexes are enlarged, but their other abilities are diminished.
00:37:26.000Now, if you're a shaman in the jungle, maybe that's no big deal.
00:37:29.000But if you're a software engineer in Silicon Valley writing code for nuclear triggers, and on the weekends, you know, this is what you're doing every weekend chronically, uh, it could be a problem.
00:37:53.000Ayahuasca was one, and and I hesitate because there are different different kinds of ayahuasca, different uh it's called a brew, different kinds of brew.
00:38:02.000So is the idea that people are overdoing it, they're doing it too much.
00:38:15.000I was invited as a guest speaker to go with a cohort uh through seven-day programs.
00:38:22.000And part of that program was ayahuasca, part of it was breath work, part of it was body work, part of it was natural uh raw food, uh, you know, the the whole gamut.
00:38:33.000And there was a woman and her husband who came, and they were both healthy, they couldn't have a baby, they couldn't conceive.
00:38:41.000Her eggs were good, his sperm was good, the doctors couldn't figure it out.
00:38:45.000And they said there's there's something else going on.
00:38:48.000So they came to to this program, and the woman, and one one time, she had uh a plant medicine experience, and in that experience, a being came to her and reached in and pulled her heart out, and it was all black and had stuff all over it, and and the being cleaned it off and put it back in, did the same thing with the womb.
00:39:11.000And she had had she'd been traumatized as a child, had been abused, uh had not resolved that, apparently, uh, you know, on a deep emotional level.
00:39:21.000And so there was a part of her that felt that she wasn't worthy to conceive, and it was being it was shown up that way, and in her plant medicine experience, this is what worked for her, and they were they conceived shortly after I think they conceived that week while they were there when they they did the numbers backwards.
00:39:39.000Now, as a scientist, can you prove that?
00:39:42.000Or you can say there's a high correlation between the time that an individual has an experience like that and when you know when they successfully conceive.
00:40:00.000That's where we get into the Trevor Burrus.
00:40:01.000Well, it seems to me the people that uh I have encountered that use it maybe a little bit too much, uh they seem to have uh a loss of a perception of how other people see them.
00:40:14.000They they they get slippery, like the world gets slippery.
00:40:18.000They they act weird and they don't know they're acting weird, and it seems like there's like a a a piece of the interface has been damaged.
00:40:44.000Because I'll say it right now, there's a part of us that doesn't live inside the body, but that the body tunes to, and I'm using that from an engineering perspective, that the body tunes to through the antenna of neurons and DNA.
00:41:06.000And this is where it's fascinating conversation.
00:41:11.000Scientists now, a segment of scientists are beginning to look at the human body as more than soft, sticky, wet, gooey, mushy, you know, cells and skin.
00:41:21.000Joe, they're actually looking at us from an IT perspective.
00:41:25.000And this sounds crazy, but they're looking at the human body from the perspective of information passing through and communicating with the world around us.
00:41:38.000That we are such an advanced form of life.
00:41:42.000We're not primitive computer chips and wires and chemicals.
00:42:04.000The ability to do that is the core of all the ancient and cherished spiritual traditions in the mystery schools, how we go about regulating this technology.
00:42:18.000So now let me just break that down a little bit.
00:42:21.000I mentioned during the Cold War, it was a very civilized war.
00:43:55.000Our DNA stores information, and the way that it's described is that it is secure, it's transparent, and it's immutable and it's distributed.
00:44:06.000And those are exactly the terms being used for blockchain technology today, because blockchain technology in the world actually mirrors the technology of human DNA.
00:44:19.000We have a record in you and I, every human body, we have a record of every successful genetic transaction for our species.
00:44:40.000The the point is that we are the only form of life that can consciously self-regulate all of this technology and apply it to our healing, to our intuition, to our resilience to change, to any of these kinds of things.
00:44:59.000And the ability to do that is the secret that has been hidden within the mystery schools, within the religions.
00:45:10.000Uh and it is the reason for everything that you're seeing happening in the world today.
00:45:18.000There's a concerted effort, Joe, to deny us our ability to express our humanness.
00:45:25.000And part of that effort is replacing our humanness with technology.
00:45:30.000So that's a big statement, and I know we'll but that's fairly recent, right?
00:45:34.000The the effort to stop people from expressing their human humanness.
00:46:10.000And what she meant was it the world looked scary to her, Joe, and it does a lot of people.
00:46:16.000It looked like things were happening for no reason, for no apparent there was no apparent structure.
00:46:23.000It looked like things are just popping off here and there out of control, it looked crazy, and she's she said, you know, this isn't my world anymore.
00:46:30.000Well, we are in the middle of a process.
00:46:33.000The process has a beginning, it has an end, we're in it.
00:46:36.000The only way out of it is to go through it, and that's why I'm excited to have this conversation with you.
00:46:42.000Two parallel themes that are playing out on our world right now, and we we can explore both of them.
00:46:51.000One, there is a concerted effort for the first time in the history of our world to remake the stated intent to remake our world and to remake our bodies.
00:47:03.000Now we've never had the technology to do that, but we we do now.
00:47:08.000So that the intent to remake the world and remake our bodies, that's one conversation.
00:47:14.000The other conversation, the best science of the modern world, is showing us that we're not what we've been told.
00:47:20.000We're so much more than we've been led to believe, and we're about to give our humanness away to the technology before we even know what it means to be human if we remake our bodies.
00:47:32.000So this is and this is in this generation.
00:47:34.000This this cannot drag on for five years, ten years, because all the tech is being pushed on us so quickly.
00:47:44.000And rather than get into the weeds of the Democrats and the Republicans and liberals and conservatives, and which is all important, and we can have that conversation, but there's something much, much bigger that's playing out here, and it literally we're in a battle for our humanness.
00:48:02.000And if we don't claim our humanness, there are powers and forces that will stop at nothing to deny us our humanness.
00:48:12.000One of the reasons they're denying it is what we just said, because it's through our humanness that we have these extraordinary potentials that empower us as sovereign, critically thinking, self-regulating human beings.
00:48:27.000And it's very difficult to play out the agendas that are proposed for the world upon populations that are sovereign, critically thinking, self-regulating human beings.
00:48:41.000So just like Well, the problem seems to be power and control.
00:48:45.000And the only way to have power and control over people is to limit their ability to express themselves and then keep them at each other's throats.
00:48:53.000Well, that that is those are two things that are happening all the time with with social media.
00:48:59.000The people that manage social media are consistently trying to limit the reach of people that have voices or narratives that don't approve, that they don't approve of.
00:49:09.000And ultimately what you're seeing in other countries is moving to digital IDs.
00:49:16.000This is just implemented in Europe and in the U.K. You're seeing it in a lot of places where you're gonna have to need that to work and vote and travel.
00:49:24.000And it'll be even more of a constriction on your ability to express yourself, particularly when you think about the U.K., which has had more than 12,000 arrests for very mild social media posts.
00:49:39.000I I've been watching this stuff play out.
00:49:41.000Fascinating, and the the fact that the our mainstream media is relatively silent on this is insane.
00:49:48.000You're seeing a complete total attack on one of the most fundamental principles of the Western world, which is your ability to express yourself.
00:50:00.000And your ability to call out that you think that the policies that are being implemented in your country are destructive.
00:50:07.000That that's people have always been able to do that.
00:50:09.000These people are not calling for violence.
00:50:10.000They're not they're being arrested for wild things.
00:50:13.000People are being arrested for liking posts.
00:50:17.000Some people were i investigated for viewing posts.
00:50:22.00012,000 people arrested by the police in the U.K., the same place that just implemented digital ID.
00:50:29.000I mean, this is an Orwell nightmare coming to life right in front of our face and no one's flinching.
00:50:36.000No one in America is freaking out about what's happening in the U.K. at all.
00:50:40.000I mean, you get people online that are kind of freaked out by it, but they're way more freaked out by nonsensical things like whether or not what Jimmy Kimmel said in his monologue was offensive.
00:50:51.000They'll they'll go to the ends of the earth to fight that.
00:51:09.000If you look at what's going on like in the UK, what what they're what they're learning over there is that they are in a tyrannical government.
00:51:17.000And it's slowly but surely it's got it's got its back, it's got the hooks in, it's putting the rear naked choking.
00:51:32.000And a very limited amount of people are controlling a n a huge amount of people, a limited amount of people with fantastic access to resources and the ability for the first time in human history where you have individuals that are in charge of companies that are po they can shift the entire narrative of the world.
00:51:51.000So they're doing it through these tech companies for the first time ever, totally unanticipated, 20 years ago didn't exist.
00:52:26.000You gotta limit the people's ability to r rebel, limit their ability to gather resources, keep them at each other's throats ideologically, keep them fighting over the dumbest shit possible, including the color of their skin.
00:53:13.000You're gonna lose the thing you're not supposed to have.
00:53:16.000An elected official is supposed to be a representative for the people.
00:53:19.000You're supposed to be a person who's a public servant where you go out and you do this incredibly moral and ethical and beautiful thing where you sacrifice your time for the betterment of your community and your society instead of just a means of extracting fantastic wealth that is totally unprecedented and that shouldn't exist in the first place.
00:53:41.000You shouldn't be able to take that fucking job and then immediately go and start working for some Fortune 500 company making billions of dollars.
00:53:49.000Like that's crazy if you're a a government employee in uh involved in any regulatory fashion and then you go and work for the very industry you were regulating.
00:53:58.000Or if you're uh a person who runs for office and you get in office, and then all of a sudden you're worth hundreds of millions of dollars when your salary is 170,000 a year.
00:54:08.000Like it's It's real obvious what's going on.
00:54:41.000I think what you're talking about, power and control, lust and greed, there are individuals that have a propensity for those things that are going to fall into those roles very easily.
00:55:02.000So this will open the door to answering Sedonia and everything else that we've done, so we're not we're not totally beating around the bush, we're going to bring this all together.
00:55:13.000I wasn't sure how deep you want to go with this, Joe.
00:55:15.000And what I'll say is I'm going to acknowledge things we're talking about for a lot of people is a very different way of thinking.
00:55:21.000And it certainly is different from what I was conditioned.
00:55:24.000I was born and raised in northern Missouri, a rural community.
00:55:29.000My first degrees in geology and computer science, this is a very different way of thinking, and it's where the evidence is leading us.
00:55:39.000What the our most ancient and cherished texts, whether you're talking about religion or or not religion.
00:55:48.000They say that we are born into uh an ancient struggle that began long before we ever got here.
00:55:55.000Uh and for lack of a better term, and this is where words words are powerful and they carry a lot of baggage.
00:56:02.000It's it's a struggle between good and evil.
00:56:32.000There is something inside of us that is so rare and so precious and so ancient and sacred and powerful and beautiful that there are forces that have in history and are currently working to deny us access to this force.
00:56:53.000The force is the reason for the ancient texts, the spiritual traditions.
00:57:00.000And there's two ways that we we can have this conversation.
00:57:04.000You can say we can do it from a biblical perspective and talk about angels and demons.
00:57:09.000We could do it from a high-tech perspective and talk about an advanced civilization from another world in another time, and you're talking about the same thing.
00:57:54.000The well, let me say I I was a in the nineties I was uh a member of uh an organization called BAR, Biblical Archaeology Review.
00:58:02.000And the idea is that you you follow the in the instructions in the text and you go someplace and you dig and there is what the text is talking about from 3,000 years ago.
00:58:14.000So they use that to try to validate the events, not not the religiosity, but the events.
00:58:21.000In the Mesopotamian texts, when we talk about the king's list, you've had guests on that talked about the the king's list in Sumeria that talks, it literally says when the kingship descended from the heavens to the earth, and then it gives the list of the kings, uh, and then there was another flood, and they evacuated and they came back, and then they created humans.
00:58:45.000And it actually lines up date-wise with the 200, 250,000 years uh of when we were created, but there's no religion involved.
00:58:56.000Are we talking about an advanced civilization and our relationship to them a long time ago?
00:59:03.000Are we talking about angels and demons from a long time ago?
00:59:05.000Are we talking about uh beings with uh with wings in the religious tradition, or or when you look at the Sumerian traditions, the kings all had wings as well.
00:59:18.000And what the story is that we are an intention we're the product of an intentional act, and we were imbued with a force that was greater even than those who created us.
00:59:30.000And that there has been an effort from that time to deny us that force.
00:59:34.000Well, how do you know that our force is greater than those that created us?
00:59:39.000That is from if you're familiar with the Gnostic texts.
00:59:42.000Uh in the Gnostic texts, the So the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1946-47, the oldest unedited records of the Old Testament, pushed push the date back a thousand years.
00:59:57.000The in 45 and 46, the oldest records of the New Testament and the texts that were excluded were discovered in the little village along the Nile in Egypt called Nag Hamadi.
01:00:11.000Uh it's can I just tell it's a crazy story.
01:00:14.000There's not much firewood uh along the Nile in Egypt, and there was a woman uh who needed kindling to feed her family, to build the fires to feed her family and heat their home.
01:00:27.000And she she told her son, go find some kindling, and he was very resourceful, no trees, so he found an old tomb.
01:00:34.000And in the tomb were clay vases, and he opened those vases, and there were uh documents that were very dry and brittle and made great kindling.
01:01:24.000So there's there's the thirteen uh bound texts.
01:01:28.000So among these were things like the Gospel of Thomas, which is considered the second most heretical book uh in the Nag Hamadi library.
01:01:38.000There's the Gospel of John, also called the Secret Book of John, also called the Apocryphon of John, which is considered the first most heretical book.
01:01:48.000Uh there are books from Gnostic women, Thunder Perfect Mind is a book by a Gnostic woman that's in there.
01:01:57.000So these, and I'll be very clear, uh, if you had Wes Huff here, I know you've had before, and I think he's he's a brilliant scholar, uh, he would say that these are not accepted because of they're not accepted by the church because of dating and because of,
01:02:14.000you know, the there's a lot of reasons, but there's a lot of new research showing that these are worthy of um of exploring with the same validity that we give to the other texts that were.
01:02:33.000The uh they're dated the late first, early second century, somewhere right around there, some of them later.
01:02:39.000Um the uh the book of John, the the secret book of John, what makes it so exceptional is that he believes, he said that it was dictated to him by uh Jesus of Nazareth after his crucifixion.
01:03:02.000But the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Thomas is one of the probably the most controversial.
01:03:05.000It's 11 sayings that were recorded by uh by Thomas, and the book says Didymus Thomas was uh was the name.
01:03:20.000And it's almost like it it's different from all the other books in that it is each saying is is a teaching unto itself.
01:03:29.000And what he is saying are I'm again I'm hesitating because we're just covering so much ground here.
01:03:38.000What Yeshua was his name, what he was teaching was so profound for his time.
01:03:45.000There were outer teachings and inner teachings.
01:03:48.000The outer teachings were for the masses, and it's primarily what you see in the Gospels.
01:03:53.000The inner teachings were for those initiates that could really understand what it was he was saying, and that's what the Gospel of Thomas uh appears to be.
01:04:04.000I don't think it invalidates that uh uh you know what it is that is being said in there.
01:04:10.000What is it being said that's so controversial?
01:04:13.000But the bottom line, and this is one I think that is probably one of the most well-known, where he says what you have, what you bring forth from within you will save you, and what you don't bring forth from within you will destroy you.
01:04:27.000He's saying there's a power inside of us that has to be expressed.
01:04:31.000And these texts are all about how we awaken that that power.
01:04:36.000Okay, so the name, I'm gonna use a word and then I'll define it.
01:04:40.000The name that has given to that power traditionally is called divinity, but it has nothing to do with religion.
01:04:46.000So that association is made because there are schools of divinity that make that, and they're they're great schools, they do great things, but the contemporary definition of divinity, I I love this, the ability to transcend perceived limitations, and that's it.
01:05:01.000So the ability to transcend, to become more than perceived.
01:05:07.000Joe, you and I, our listeners, we are we are living limits that probably aren't even real.
01:05:13.000We're living within limits that we have been indoctrinated to accept about ourselves.
01:05:19.000Divinity is our ability to become the best version of ourselves.
01:05:27.000I mean, no other form of life can do what we do with imagination.
01:05:30.000And we I want to talk about that in just a moment.
01:05:32.000But it's more than just a picture in your mind.
01:05:35.000An image in the mind is setting into motion a cascade of chemical effects in the human body that literally change us.
01:05:43.000We are changed in the presence of the right kind of imagination, and the books tell us how to do that.
01:05:49.000So imagination, creativity, innovation, empathy, sympathy, love, compassion, healing, forgiveness, these are expressions of human divinity.
01:05:59.000It's what sets us apart from all our forms of life, it makes us such powerful beings.
01:06:06.000The purpose of evil, and this might be the most important thing that we say today, because it's a nebulous concept, good and evil, until you until you give it a benchmark.
01:06:19.000The purpose of evil is to deny human divinity.
01:06:23.000The purpose of evil is to deny us our greatest expressions, imagination, creativity, the ability to communicate and share ideas, empathy, sympathy, self-healing, all of those things.
01:06:34.000So in a very real sense, Joe, anything that denies those things is an expression of evil.
01:06:41.000So when we find that algorithms are denying us the ability to communicate our ideas from this perspective, that's an expression of evil.
01:06:50.000We find we put something into our bodies that prevents us from healing our own bodies.
01:06:57.000What the Gnostic texts are saying is that we are in a process that has a beginning and an end.
01:07:04.000And the purpose of the process is to deny humankind.
01:07:09.000Our own humanness, that has been playing out over eons, and now the technology is allowing it to play out to a greater degree because things like AI, things like misused, I'm not anti-AI, it's how it's used.
01:07:26.000Uh things like computer chips in the brain, computer brain interface, all of these things, what they're doing, Joe, is they are denying our humanness, use it or lose it.
01:07:38.000We've if we're using technology in place of our imagination, for example, and the psychology journals are full of articles about this.
01:07:48.000People that chronically use artists, musicians.
01:07:52.000My wife is a voting member of the Grammys, and we just had this conversation.
01:07:58.000You've got musicians who go to Chat GPT and say, hey, write me a song, and now put some music to that song, and now you enter it with the Grammys, and you are competing against a human who has labored 30 or or so years to master their voice and an instrument, and you say, is that fair?
01:08:16.000Well, they're they're struggling with that right now.
01:08:19.000But so these are all expressions of of anything that denies our humanness, uh from that perspective is an expression of evil.
01:09:16.000Well, we can we can talk about it because he it's in code.
01:09:19.000He and he's talking about the the the marriage, the sacred marriage of masculine and feminine.
01:09:24.000Uh and it's when you he said when you make the two one and the inside like the outside, then you will say the mountain move and the mountain will move, and what he's talking about is honoring the masculine and the feminine, and that's more than just a metaphor.
01:09:39.000I mean, there's a whole thing that goes with that.
01:09:42.000Can you bring up uh saying number seventy?
01:10:15.000He's in the the Christian doctrine, we're led to believe that he was a peacemaker.
01:10:20.000And what it says very clearly in the Gospel of Thomas, he he says, and if you go to the early when I was looking it up, this uh the c Catholics say that some of this stuff Jesus did say.
01:10:33.000Some of it he did not say, and some of it's flat out and made up.
01:10:36.000They have a problem with the with the dating, but they also have a problem, it doesn't support the narrative.
01:10:41.000That was this is what the so there were two councils.
01:10:43.000There was a council of Carthage and the Council of Nicaea, uh, and this is where they excluded these documents, but they had been accepted prior to that.
01:10:54.000Uh you've heard people in here talk about the book of Enoch.
01:10:56.000And that was accepted before these as well.
01:10:59.000So these were what these are, they're inner teachings not meant for the masses, um, based upon the the concepts that he's sharing, and this is where he's saying there is something inside of us.
01:11:12.000And the rest of the gospels, this is what uh Philip and Thomas are talking about, is that we are imbued with this force given to no other form of life.
01:11:20.000It's uh a light, uh it is an intelligence.
01:11:25.000And when we are fully empowered in in this intelligence, we are sovereign, critically thinking beings, and we are no longer susceptible to and vulnerable to the agendas and the ideas of others, and and there are multiple agendas that are out there.
01:11:44.000So from this time, and now if if when you go to the the Sumerian text, they say the same thing.
01:11:50.000They're saying when they beheld what it was that they had created, that it had more light, more power than those that created it.
01:11:59.000Then you get Into the whole conversation of Genesis, you know, where it says God created man, but that's a translation error because the original text say Elohim, and Elohim is a plural.
01:12:19.000But it says Elohim said, let us create man in our image.
01:12:25.000So even if Elohim is not plural, us implies more than one God.
01:12:30.000So the point of all of this, and we can drill down into the weeds and all these, but it appears that there was a collective of intelligence that is responsible for for us.
01:12:43.000That's not science, though that's the text.
01:12:46.000Now you look at the science, the DNA is telling us that 200,000 years ago, there were mutations that cannot happen in nature that imbued us with the ability to communicate with one another and all of these things that were that we're talking about.
01:13:05.000And almost from the moment that we were imbued with these things, there was an attempt to deny us our power, and that attempt continues today.
01:13:21.000The wars, uh uh, the economies, all the conversation of climate is all important, and there's a level where it has become a distraction to keep us spun up in fear so that we because we're so close, Joe, we're so close as a species to awakening this fundamental force within us.
01:13:43.000The closer we get to that awakening, the more chaos you see in the world to keep us distracted.
01:15:01.000It it's like a it's like a tennis game on a screen.
01:15:06.000But computers were new, and we'd never seen anything like I would go to work.
01:15:11.000Uh I I was in a secure area at DOD working on the Peacekeeper Missile Project after lunch, guys would come in on their CRT screens, and they'd be mesmerized.
01:16:07.000I used to have it when I was trying to say the thing you were trying to get me to show, which is the next slide, is it's it's got an error in the Trevor Burrus.
01:16:13.000Well, so here so here's what they did.
01:16:15.0002022, scientists took neurons, but there was no human attached.
01:16:21.000And they put them into a petri dish to keep them alive, and they hooked up the neurons to a computer chip.
01:16:29.000So now you've got a uh uh a biology technology interface.
01:16:34.000So the neurons are hooked up to a chip.
01:16:37.000The chip was put into a computer that was loaded with pong.
01:16:42.000The neurons began playing the game of pong, even though there was no human attached to the neurons, and the longer they played, the better they got.
01:16:52.000They were actually learning how to play Pong better.
01:16:57.000And now the scientists are struggling with a question.
01:17:00.000How does a neuron not attached to a human in a petri dish know how to play Pong, where are the instructions?
01:17:09.000Okay, so I remember when I was a kid, uh Einstein had died, and they had his brain thin sectioned in a uh the University of Kansas because they wanted to see what made his brain different from everybody else.
01:17:23.000And it looked pretty much like everybody else's, with one exception.
01:17:26.000He had a whole lot of folds in his brain.
01:17:30.000So when you stretch those folds out, he had more surface area, he had more neurons.
01:17:35.000So they're thinking, but there was Equals M C square wasn't in the brain.
01:18:06.000There was a time when the field was a metaphor.
01:18:10.000You know, uh metaphysical people, spiritual people, you say, oh, yeah, you know, it's it's out in the field.
01:18:16.000July 4th of 2012, the CERN superconducting supercollider made an announcement that they had discovered a field that had been predicted by Peter Higgs, the physicist Peter Higgs.
01:18:32.000Well, they found the Higgs boson, and what that implied was that there was a field supporting the boson, and now it's accepted science.
01:19:01.000Every one of those cells has about a hundred trillion atoms emerging from the field and collapsing into the field.
01:19:08.000Right now, you and I, we're constantly the atoms in our bodies are emerging and collapsing into that field.
01:19:16.000We are the field, and that is what makes us so powerful.
01:19:19.000This is why we can heal our bodies almost instantaneously when we know how to access this part of ourselves because we hold the blueprint that tells those atoms how to express when they come into the body.
01:19:37.000So if you've got something you don't like in your body, what you do is you are using the gift of imagination to create a new blueprint for that atom to come into.
01:19:49.000And there's a lot of science that's struggling with this.
01:19:51.000But when you get into the quantum world, you get into the fact that the Higgs field exists, you get in to the fact that the imagination in the mirror neurons of the human brain.
01:20:03.000Mirror neurons were only discovered in 2004.
01:20:08.000And the thing about mirror neurons is they don't know the difference between watching an experience and having experience.
01:20:17.000So for example, you can be on the couch on a Sunday afternoon watching the Joe Rogan show with an exciting guest.
01:20:24.000You're just laying there, but your heart might be racing and your body's perspiring, your muscle, or maybe you're watching soccer, because your neurons don't know the difference between watching and having the experience.
01:20:37.000This is why porn is so addictive, because the mirror neurons don't know the difference between having and witnessing the experience.
01:20:47.000They're going to kick up the same addictive chemicals, the same dopamine, the same uh levels of adrenaline, watching the image that they are having the image.
01:20:58.000Because the image can be imagined when we are able to hold an image of ourselves fully enabled, fully capacitated, fully healed, fully awakened, hold that image.
01:21:10.000What we're actually doing is we're programming the body.
01:21:13.000And this is something shamans know this.
01:22:21.000And the purpose of evil has always been, whether you're looking at those ancient texts or the Sumerian texts, uh Mesopotamian texts, it's always been to deny to deny us the greatest expressions of our humanness.
01:22:36.000And now we live in a time, this is no ordinary time in history.
01:22:40.000There none of this is happening in a vacuum.
01:22:42.000We're barreling down the road toward this convergence of so many natural cycles and the date 2030 that has been identified by the United Nations, by the WEF, by a number of corporations, by Ray Kurzweil, in terms of AI implementation.
01:23:02.000And what you're seeing are the powers and the forces of the world jockeying to be in the best position when this date is upon us.
01:23:13.000And I'm not saying it's like January 1st, 2030, but the United Nations, for example, they've got, and again, I don't know if I'm being redundant here, but they've got uh the UN SDG 2030, UN United Nations Sustainable Development Goals, they want implemented by the year 2030.
01:23:28.000They're not getting much traction because they're not good ideas.
01:23:32.000Uh the goals, if you read them on the outside, Joe, they're they're deceptively beautiful.
01:24:25.000Or the the Great Reset uh is the term that they coined, or the fourth industrial revolution.
01:24:32.000Um they haven't gotten much traction, but they recognize that their goals were similar to the U.N. So in 2019, these two organizations joined forces.
01:25:19.000Because in one sentence, uh Klaus Schwab states that the goal for the fourth industrial revolution.
01:25:27.000And if he doesn't have I just want you to hear it in his voice, he said the Goal is the merging of the natural world, the digital world, and the biological world, our biological identity.
01:25:40.000He said the goal of this fourth industrial revolution is to merge all of those into this massive database run by AI.
01:26:03.000It's at the end, what what's the force industrial evolution we lead to is a fusion of all physical, our initial, and all biological identities.
01:26:19.000Did you hear how he paused before he said biological?
01:26:49.000And right now, we are not fully implemented in into that system.
01:26:55.000But that statement, and the reason I wanted to share that, that is what's driving everything you're seeing happening in the world.
01:27:01.000What all the the implementation of the technology, with that statement is driving the implementation of that technology.
01:27:09.000The AI, uh, the way that we are being indoctrinated to accept it, first accept it in our lives, and then develop a dependency upon that AI.
01:27:24.000Ultimately there will be some kind of compliance.
01:27:26.000We'll be told we need to use the AI in order to, you know, accomplish certain things, do our banking or you know, whatever it is, it's all being driven by AI.
01:27:35.000That sentence is a very, very powerful sentence.
01:27:39.000It also couldn't have been delivered by someone who looks more like a villain in a movie.
01:28:58.000There is a fundamental, it's a very ancient.
01:29:01.000If you don't know this, the world looks like it's spinning out of control for no reason.
01:29:05.000When you begin, and you don't have to think about it every day, but when you look at the big picture, and you can see there's a fundamental struggle between if you want to use the language good and evil, it it's a charged language, and I know that.
01:29:16.000And that's the language that we're using.
01:29:19.000But the denial of our human potential.
01:29:24.000And so the the best way, what do we do about that is if the purpose of the evil is to deny our humanness and our divinity, we triumph by living the best version of ourselves.
01:29:36.000We triumph by imagining freely and sharing ideas and creating and and don't be afraid to have empathy and sympathy and compassion.
01:29:45.000And and now you have a benchmark because when something comes up on social media or something we're asked to do something, we say, well, I don't know if this is a good thing or not.
01:29:55.000You ask yourself, does it affirm or does it deny my humanist?
01:29:59.000Is it affirm or deny my ability to imagine, to create, to love, to forgive, empathy, sympathy, compassion, to share ideas, deep intuition.
01:30:10.000And then that'll tell you what you need to know.
01:30:12.000What you choose after that is up to the individual, but it won't be a blind choice.
01:30:17.000And I think this is this is up for us right now.
01:30:20.000Okay, so now evil in technology and the algorithms of social media that are designed to break the social bonds that have always held us together as communities.
01:30:32.000And you know, this began right around 2011, I think was the Occupy movement, and it pitted the rich against the poor, 99% against one percent.
01:30:44.000And we Joe, we could have used that and and come to the table and had a conversation and a healing that would bring us closer together as a society.
01:30:55.000But it was weaponized to drive us apart.
01:31:00.000Men against women, blacks against whites, Christians against Muslims, Jews against Muslims.
01:31:07.000Now it's male against female, and the genders are being blurred.
01:31:10.000All of this by design, breaking the social bonds that hold families and communities and societies together because we're more vulnerable when we lose these bonds.
01:31:50.000You're feeding one perspective of what it is that you've just queried.
01:31:56.000Meanwhile, dad's at work, he's doing the same thing, his algorithm is giving him a separate perspective.
01:32:02.000The kids are doing the same thing, and now they meet at the family dinner table, and everybody believes that their story is the real story, it's the right, it's the true story.
01:33:14.000It's more and more addictive every time you pick it up.
01:33:16.000The the newer ones are even better, the screens are even bigger.
01:33:18.000Now you've got a foldable one, opens up to a tablets in your pocket, and people are just full-on addicted to what is a lot of negative information, far more than you would get just living your ordinary life.
01:33:30.000Aaron Powell, you don't see much information you don't see joyous information that brings us together very often, do you do you?
01:34:09.000And you see people arguing in the worst, most evil way possible, for ter uh celebrating people's deaths and hoping more people die, and you're like, oh my God, I gotta get out of here.
01:34:33.000You know what people just post things for for the lulls.
01:34:36.000They're just supposed to get reactions out of people, and there's a lot of that going on.
01:34:39.000There's a lot of people expressing their boredom with negativity, expressing their frustration with their station in life with negativity online, and then feeding into it, arguing with other people instead of addressing their own individual real life problems, they start looking at all these things that they're creating online.
01:34:55.000That's their primary focus, like throughout the day is these stupid ideological battles they're having with people that might not even be real people.
01:36:09.000Some of them know exactly what they're doing.
01:36:11.000There are some that know exactly what they're doing, but most of them are very naive and they want to be relevant.
01:36:16.000And so they will follow the pack is is what they will do.
01:36:21.000And so this is where I I think you can recognize this is where discernment comes in.
01:36:26.000To recognize it without judging it, because this is a spiritual battle.
01:36:34.000And at the end of the day, what matters, Joe, is what do we become in the presence of what the world shows us?
01:36:46.000What do we allow the events of the world to make us into?
01:36:50.000Do we allow an election that didn't turn the way that we had wanted to reduce us to the most primal levels of hate and revenge and anger, something we'd never do in a million years, but we succumb to that.
01:37:06.000Or do we do recognize what it is that has happened?
01:37:13.000And it doesn't mean we have to agree with it.
01:37:16.000But the question is, do we make the decisions from our love of the families behind us and our friends and and our community, or do we make our decisions from the fear of what we perceive as our enemy in front of us?
01:37:32.000And that happens every moment of every day.
01:37:34.000I've been in I have been in a business meeting with uh uh someone who is pure evil.
01:37:55.000Aaron Powell It was it was a business.
01:37:56.000It was in this industry that we're in right now, in the information industry, the publishing industry.
01:38:02.000And I was with an individual uh who I'm hesitating in the the the words that I use here.
01:38:14.000I found myself saying things that I would never say in a million years while that individual was looking at me and smiling because he was somehow inciting me to to say those things.
01:38:30.000Uh it was almost like in some way there was a force that I had not learned to reckon with.
01:39:17.000I could, except that he was looking right at me and he had this this smile, and when I saw him again, he tried to do the same thing again and it didn't work.
01:39:27.000But see, this is my problem with this.
01:39:29.000If you're not taking personal responsibility for the words that are coming out of your mouth.
01:39:34.000But you're saying that this guy forced those words to coming out of you.
01:39:38.000And that that is where it gets a little slippery because of why do you why would you not just assume that it was your own anxiety, your own stress level.
01:39:47.000People behave out of pocket sometimes.
01:39:49.000They think outside of their own character sometimes.
01:39:52.000They talk out of character, and then they go, well, I don't even know why I was saying that.
01:40:43.000Right now, you don't have to look at look at history.
01:40:46.000Those are perfect example to to do what is happening there w when it comes human to human, the only way that the uh a human, one human can perpetrate that onto another is to to sever the relationship to their divinity.
01:41:04.000We can we can deny our divinity, we can have it taken from us by those who have power over us, or we can technology can deny our divinity.
01:41:14.000But someone who uh and that is closely linked to the soul, which is not the spirit.
01:41:20.000So the soul is our localized, you know, lifetime experience.
01:41:25.000When we sever that relationship, uh that is what allows an individual to carry out those kinds of atrocities.
01:41:38.000Because an individual who is connected to their divinity and their soul could never look at another human in the eye and hurt them the way that we know that it has happened in our lives.
01:41:52.000And it has it's happened throughout history.
01:41:54.000So my focus, what I'm I'm really passionate about, and it's not just like any old time in history.
01:42:05.000I mean, the decisions are being made within the next couple of years as to whether or not we will give our humanness away to technology, or if we allow the technology to serve us but not enslave us.
01:42:24.000Uh the brain-computer interfaces that are going on BCI, that's a big conversation going on right now.
01:42:30.000And if if we get lost in the weeds of just AI or just the BCI, it's easy to do that, but I think it's important to keep there's a bigger picture.
01:43:17.000Because the Gnostic text said that we have a hotline to a higher realm, that we don't have to go through uh an intermediary, that we Are imbued with this spark or whatever language you want to use, uh given the northern form of life, and that when we awaken that, that we we become God like, not God, but God like.
01:43:44.000And this was the message of Yeshua in the Gnostic texts.
01:43:48.000And that's the message that was denied and called heretical, because the if we are that then we don't need an intermediary.
01:44:01.000So I think what we're looking at right now is is do we love ourselves enough?
01:44:08.000Do we love ourselves enough to accept the gift of our humanness and what it means to be human and what it means to be divine and not bring religion into the conversation.
01:44:20.000But and maybe just find another word if people aren't comfortable with that word.
01:44:24.000But I I really want people to know, and especially, you know, I do live events with these young kids, Joe, and they've been taught to worship technology.
01:45:37.000Because every time we push a human brain to what we think is the limit that we've been taught to accept, this is the beauty of our divinity.
01:45:47.000What we do is we morph and adapt and open up a whole new vista of potentials.
01:45:55.000The Tibetan monks, a perfect example of this.
01:45:58.000When I was in school, again, back 50s and 60s, we were taught that uh the human brain maxes out about 40 hertz, 40 cycles per second, all the medical books, textbooks, everything.
01:46:11.000And then these Tibetan monks came along and they said, Wow, if we do a certain kind of meditation, you know, we'll exceed that.
01:46:21.000The scientists said, okay, so maybe we got it wrong once, but the human brain can't possibly do any more than that.
01:46:27.000And the the monks said, Well, you know, if we do a different kind of meditation, then you know where this is going.
01:46:32.000And they push it up to 100 hertz, and then they they had to come up with another brain state called gamma, and then they push it to 120 and 130 and 150 and one and they 200 cycles per second.
01:46:50.000We typically think when the human brain shows less than one cycle per second of processing, less than one hertz, that person's not there anymore.
01:47:01.000And the monks were able to consciously drive their brain state to .5 hertz, less than one.
01:47:09.000They're very conscious, they're very awake.
01:47:11.000They're just in a way different state of mind.
01:47:15.000And that opens the door to a lot of questions about, you know, what does it mean when you see low brain activity?
01:47:23.000Is someone actually in a healing state, or are they really not there?
01:47:27.000Or you know what I think it deserves more study.
01:47:30.000But the point of all of this, and there is a point, is that through nothing more than breath and focus.
01:47:39.000So nothing external, no chemicals, no machines, those Tibetan monks demonstrated that we not only meet, but we are exceeding the brain capacity that we thought we had in the past.
01:47:52.000Aaron Ross Powell The fascinating thing about them is you would have to do what they do to be able to understand how their brain functions.
01:47:59.000You would have to Have meditated for 30 plus years in the same exact way to achieve these states that they achieve.
01:48:06.000Otherwise you're just guessing about what that's like.
01:48:08.000I led groups in the Tibet from the from the mid-90s to the early 2000s.
01:48:15.000And we we would go to 12 monasteries and two nunneries over 26 days, and we would sit with these people, and through the translators, they would teach us.
01:48:24.000And you don't you could spend that kind of time, but the beauty is you don't have to.
01:48:47.000You but Eddie Van Halen played guitar for thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of hours with a d incredible focus and became Eddie Van Halen.
01:48:58.000If you're a monk, you know Eddie Van Helen is.
01:49:02.000To be a virtuoso, to be a Steve Ray Vaughn, to be uh Jimmy Hendrix.
01:49:06.000Like it it requires immense amount of time.
01:49:15.000There is a discipline and um But are there levels that get reached like when someone's like a true master, they've been doing it for twenty years, they can do something, they can get to a state that other people can't get to.
01:49:26.000There are, Joe, and what I want to say is there are levels that you and I can do right this minute.
01:49:32.000Uh I think I don't know if you've had any of the folks from the Institute of Heart Math.
01:49:36.000Uh it's a pioneering research organization in Northern California, been around since 1994.
01:49:44.000They explore the power of the human heart beyond being simply uh a pump in the body.
01:49:51.000That's probably the least of what it does.
01:49:53.000And what they have done and made very accessible to the average person is the ability to create coherence between the heart and the brain, and that can happen in a heartbeat.
01:51:20.000Now we've got two neural networks, one in the heart, one in the brain.
01:51:23.000The Institute of HeartMath made available the techniques through Three very simple steps to harmonize two neural networks into a single potent system.
01:51:38.000And we are the only form of life that can do this at will, on demand, we choose.
01:51:44.000We're the only form of life that can sit in a chair and say, in this moment, I choose to create the term is coherence.
01:51:51.000And the coherence, optimum coherence is a low frequency, 0.1 hertz.
01:51:56.000So we're the only form of life that can choose to create 0.1 hertz between the heart and the brain, harmonizing two organs become one potent system in the body.
01:52:08.000And when that happens, man, there's a whole cascade of things.
01:53:31.000And the time from one peak to the next to the next to the next varies.
01:53:36.000When we're young, it varies a lot, and that gives us resilience.
01:53:41.000When we age, it becomes more regular, we lose our resilience, set in our waves.
01:53:47.000Through harmonizing heart and the brain, you can actually uh uh reset that heart rate variability to the point where it was when you were younger.
01:54:02.000Now, active benefits, once you're in that space, and this is where the really juicy stuff happens, deep intuition.
01:54:10.000So this is where you do uh precognition.
01:54:14.000You have the ability to, your heart will sense an event before it actually happens, and there's science showing why that is.
01:54:21.000Like so many people knew 9-11 was going to happen before it happened, and I'm not saying they did this, but they they knew intuitively that this is a way to awaken that kind of intuition on demand.
01:54:48.000One is you shift your focus from your mind into your heart.
01:54:53.000And I've led groups with indigenous people all over the world for 40 years, and the way they all do this is they'll always touch their heart to bring their awareness to their heart center.
01:55:05.000Some people use a finger or two, if you're in the in the Mayan cultures in Mexico, they use a full palm.
01:55:38.000So the first step in heart-brain coherence uh developed by the Institute of Heart Math.
01:55:44.000Uh you shift your awareness from your mind into your heart, first step.
01:55:48.000Second step is to slow your breathing.
01:55:51.000And the the key here, it's not just enough just to slow it, but you exhale for a period of time longer than you inhale, because we all breathe at a different rate.
01:56:02.000So, for example, if we inhale four four counts and release six, okay, that might work for me.
01:56:09.000Somebody at you know, a higher elevation might do it differently.
01:56:13.000But the point is when you release, when you exhale for a period of time longer than you inhale, that triggers the relaxation response, parasympathetic nervous system.
01:56:24.000You're telling your body it's a language.
01:56:26.000And what you're doing is you're telling your body, I am safe.
01:56:29.000Because that's the only time you're right, and hyperventilating is the opposite.
01:56:32.000Yeah, you don't want hyperventilation.
01:56:34.000So second step is you're you're breathing uh slower, longer on the exhale, focusing as if your breath is coming from your heart while your focus is on your heart, two steps.
01:56:46.000The third step is where you create 0.01 hertz.
01:56:50.000You feel a feeling, a positive feeling because you choose to feel the feeling.
01:56:56.000And this is deceptively powerful, Joe, Because most forms of life, including humans, only have a feeling in response to what the world shows to them.
01:57:10.000We have the ability to have a feeling because we choose to have the feeling.
01:57:14.000And what the science is showing is that the feeling of gratitude almost 100% works for everyone.
01:57:25.000I mean, you can think of words like compassion, that means different things, different people, love means different things.
01:57:30.000But we can be grateful for for our children, our families, our lives, something like that.
01:57:37.000And when we feel that feeling, it sends a signal, a very low frequency, point 0.1 hertz from the heart to the brain in the presence of the slower breathing.
01:57:51.000And that harmonization between the heart and the brain is what r gives all the benefits that we just shared.
01:57:58.000Everything, you know, superimmune response, stem cells, uh, longevity enzymes, all of those things.
01:58:05.000And it's also if people do affirmations, this is the place.
01:58:09.000An affirmation is a message to the subconscious.
01:58:14.000And you have to speak in a language that the subconscious recognizes.
01:58:20.000And the coherence between the heart and the brain is like a hotline to the subconscious, but you don't have to be hypnotized.
01:58:28.000So when you're saying affirmations, if you if you do it during that time, they're even even more potent.
01:58:35.000Uh and you know, we could spend a lot of time talking about the role of imagination, mirror neurons, all of that happening within the presence.
01:58:43.000But the point going back to what you were were mentioning about the Tibetan monks.
01:58:49.000Yeah, you can study years learning what they're learning, and there are benefits that we can access pretty quickly.
01:59:12.000If anyone is not familiar with that, I invite people to go to WW HeartMath, H-E-A-R-T, M-A-T-H dot org, and it's all free, you can check it out.
01:59:21.000Aaron Powell So do you believe that the connection between the heart and the mind when you achieve that state that it increases your intuition?
02:00:33.000I was I was the the youngest uh so I was the first tech ops manager at Cisco Systems, 1990, when they uh got the RFP for protocol converter so that all the branches of the armed services could computers could talk to all the others before the the first Gulf War.
02:00:52.000And when I would go into the boardroom with an idea, and I knew that I was going to be criticized.
02:01:10.000I understand what it is, but I've never heard the term.
02:01:12.000And um very uh emotion plays a big role in our it doesn't have to, but you know, it's a it's a stereotype, but it happens to be true for me.
02:01:59.000And it's a really powerful place to Well, it's certainly worse if you're talking to a good faith actor, someone who's really wants to talk about stuff and has a legitimate criticism.
02:02:08.000But most of the time when people are criticizing you, they're trying to hurt your feelings.
02:02:19.000Like you you can learn a lot from intelligent people from their um perspectives of things.
02:02:24.000I've learned a lot from other people's criticism.
02:02:27.000But the difference between that and d dwelling on criticism.
02:02:32.000That's the part where people get wrapped up in their own identity and and also interpersonal conflicts.
02:02:38.000If you if you're a kind of person who like you're naturally argumentative and then someone says something, you're like, that's not fucking true.
02:02:45.000And you want to say something back, but it's just it's a lot of negativity and a lot of wasted time.
02:02:51.000And the way I try to describe it, uh especially to uh emerging famous people.
02:02:56.000And I'm like, you have to think of your life as if like your energy is a number.
02:03:01.000Like you have a hundred energies for the day.
02:03:05.000And if you're spending 30 or 40 of those energies on 30 or 40 of those units on social media and of criticism and of negativity, it's gonna rob the 60 percent that you really enjoy.
02:03:18.000It's gonna rob your time with your friends, your family, your hobbies, your job, your community, whatever the f whatever you really love, hanging out with your dog.
02:03:26.000You know, like this people right now that are going on a walk with their sweet, sweet dog and they're thinking about some mean post that someone made and the mean shit they're gonna say to get back at that person.
02:03:36.000Meanwhile, they're with this beautiful animal and that if you got on your knees, you go, Are you having a good time?
02:03:42.000They give you kisses and they put their paw on.
02:05:52.000But see, but what you're doing through coherence is that you're defusing that the shithead uh criticism from having the impact on you so that you're thinking about it while you're out walking your dog on a beautiful day.
02:06:51.000Well, if you're if you're going to do some I think whatever we do, book or you know, music or whatever it is, uh we do put a million percent into it.
02:07:00.000I I learned this you know, my d my dad left when I was ten, and our family was devastated.
02:07:38.000And I read it to this day, and there are different pieces that mean different things to me throughout my life.
02:07:45.000But there was one piece where he talked about work.
02:07:49.000And in the environment I grew up in, my father hated his job, he hated to work, my friends all hated their work, they just wanted to make money.
02:07:56.000And Khalil Gabr, uh this is on every email that I write right at the bottom.
02:08:00.000Khalil Gabron said, work is love made visible.
02:08:03.000And I like that because it means that when we're going to do something, you do it to the best of your ability and even more, or don't do it at all.
02:08:14.000If you're gonna do it, do it really, really well and find a way to give meaning to what you're doing.
02:08:20.000So, you know, I went to work, I used to work um midnight to six a.m. in a warehouse loading I don't talk about this a lot, but I was I was loading fifty-pound bags of um purena uh cat chow on the boxcars so they could go out in the morning to this distribution.
02:08:37.000And the guys I work with, man, they hated.
02:08:41.000If I do this just right, fifty-pound bags, if I use my my legs, I can get a pretty good leg workout out of this.
02:08:48.000And then when I'm done with that after dinner, I'll come back and I can I can get a good upper body workout and I can use my arms and all of a sudden I was getting paid for a great workout, and they had a boxcar full of Purina cat shall and it was love made visible.
02:09:05.000Well, it has stayed with me, and and I'm saying this because if I write a book or if I do an event, anything I do, uh if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it really to the best of my ability.
02:09:15.000If I can't do it to the best of my ability, I'll just if I don't believe in it, I won't do it.
02:09:19.000It's hard for young people to hear that because you know they're doing a job that sucks, they just want to get out of there and go do what they love.
02:09:25.000And sometimes a job that sucks is really good motivation to get you to work harder to go out and do the thing that you want to do that you love.
02:09:33.000Because I I don't think I would ever appreciate the life that I have now if I didn't have a bunch of really terrible jobs when I was young.
02:09:42.000Well, we we all did, and I think there is there is something to be said.
02:09:46.000If if for a young person, I mean I used to I used to do lawns, I was a cook.
02:09:51.000Uh none of it was my dream, but I said if I'm gonna do it, I want to do it really, I'm gonna do this really well.
02:09:59.000And I think that's a good idea of that was like, oh my God, this drains you of your life force.
02:10:02.000Trevor Burrus, Jr.: But we're better we're better for it if we can approach it in that way.
02:10:06.000And then when you don't do it anymore, you stop doing it.
02:10:08.000Well, yeah, I mean, if you have a negative attitude about something that you're doing versus a positive attitude, you could do the exact same thing with a positive attitude and actually enjoy it.
02:10:42.000Although there was uh a conversation that you had uh recently that I thought was very interesting.
02:10:46.000I don't know if it was recently, but it it made it into my social media feeds recently, uh uh where you were talking to someone about climate change.
02:10:53.000And you were talking about carbon in the environment and its actual effect versus a lot of a lot of the narrative that you hear about this Green New Deal stuff and just the climate the the the freak out, the climate freakout from the Al Gore film, which, by the way, freaked everybody out and was totally inaccurate.
02:11:39.000And this film was all about how we are fucked.
02:11:43.000And by this time, the time we're living in right now, 2025, the Earth is supposed to be unlivable.
02:11:49.000I mean, it's not I'm exaggerating, but like Miami's underwater, the coast.
02:11:53.000Meanwhile, the coasts haven't moved at all.
02:11:55.000And the some of the wealthiest, most influential people in the world buy property on the coastline.
02:12:01.000So like that, by the way, I should tell you, you know, if the billionaires are buying beach houses, I think it's going to be okay in that regard.
02:12:09.000But it's also like he made a lot of money off of it.
02:12:12.000It became really weird because it became he was speaking everywhere and he made hundreds of millions of dollars.
02:12:40.000And there's a lot of weird inconvenient things.
02:12:43.000One of the things that Randall Carlson brings up is one of the things about carbon is there's more green now on the surface of Earth and there has been how many years?
02:15:26.000So what I'm saying is if we were serious about clean green sustainable energy, there are technologies that they would have allowed us to have that we haven't.
02:15:40.000When it comes to this is part of our earlier conversation.
02:15:45.000We are being taught to demonize carbon in general.
02:15:48.000And our young people are frightened of carbon.
02:15:51.000They think carbon is bad, carbon is evil, carbon is what we're made out of.
02:15:55.000And so they have no problem relinquishing their carbon-based, frail, fragile, flawed bodies for the technology because they've already been taught that carbon is bad.
02:16:17.000But that's this narrow view of carbon is so crazy.
02:16:20.000Trevor Burrus, Jr.: First, right now, so CO2 levels right now, about 418, 420 parts per million, which is higher than it's been in 10 years, 20 years, 50 years.
02:16:35.000And as a geologist, here's why I can say that.
02:16:38.000When we go look at the geologic record, there are times we've had CO2 levels have been a thousand parts per million, two thousand parts per million.
02:16:47.000And Earth was lush, earth was green, it was definitely a little warmer.
02:16:51.000The ice melted, the sea levels did rise.
02:17:40.000Okay, I'm gonna back up for people that may not be familiar with this.
02:17:44.000Every year there's a new layer of ice that is laid down in Greenland uh and Antarctica, and in that layer of ice is captured little air bubbles uh of the atmosphere and particles of pollen and particles of volcanic dust.
02:18:02.000And we can tell from that layer what the the the temperatures have been, what the magnetic strength of the earth has been, how strong the sun has been.
02:18:11.000I mean, all this stuff was it is a it's a mind-blower.
02:19:11.000And you can see uh so here's here and this was in the the eighties and nineties they were doing this.
02:19:17.000And the real scientists know what I'm gonna say, the real geologist that are not politicized and are not beholden to academic or corporate interests that are paying their paychecks.
02:19:32.000One of the problems is in those ice cores, the temperature actually rises before the CO2 levels.
02:19:42.000If the CO2 is causing that rise, that's a problem.
02:19:47.000Because you would expect the CO2 to rise first and then the temperature and that's not what the ice cores now I do have a slide of that if he wants to to bring that up.
02:19:57.000So it suggests that something else is happening.
02:20:01.000And when we look at um it's it's this one right um it's on the lower lower left the sec second slide on the from the lower left.
02:20:19.000I can't see this is a lot of slides folks.
02:20:25.000Yeah this is a present presentation that I gave okay right there.
02:20:30.000So what you're seeing is the uh the red is temperature and blue yeah and the you can see that the uh the red if you're coming from the the past to the present the red is rising first and then the blue follows so the temperatures are rising first and then the carbon dioxide is rising.
02:20:51.000Now there's a reason for that and a lot of people don't like this what's driving climate change is under our feet humans are not causing it.
02:21:05.000All right statement and it's different than what a lot of people have heard and I'm going to acknowledge that NASA said I've got a slide showing that NASA is showing 90% of the CO2 in the atmosphere Joe is coming from the outgassing of the oceans.
02:21:21.000All right we know from high school science from high school science that cold water holds more gas the oceans are warming and that's a fact and as they warm they're releasing that CO2 into the atmosphere the kicker is they're warming from underneath not from top.
02:21:42.000So they're not you don't think they're warming from whatever we're doing to the atmosphere.
02:21:48.000We now we are definitely contributing to CO2 in the atmosphere but it's what would be the factor like what would be the cause of the warming from below we're going to go through this I I should probably just go I have another one on there on on um magnetic migrations.
02:22:06.000Okay so here's now you're gonna freak me out Randall Carlson deal no no and I don't see any evidence of all the things to be concerned about.
02:22:16.000Before the poles can shift which they do occasionally three factors have to be in place and they're not there right now.
02:22:32.000And the migration, what happens, I'm not sure how far back to go.
02:22:42.000So what we know is Paul LaViolette in the 1980s, I knew him before he passed.
02:22:49.000He was a brilliant, brilliant physicist, wrote a book called Earth Under Fire that was ridiculed a lot in the 80s.
02:22:56.000And what he said is that every once in a while on a clockwork basis, there is a volley of cosmic rays that comes, cosmic rays that come from the center of our Milky Way.
02:23:12.000cosmic rays like they're passing through you and me right now because we're mostly empty you know our at we're 99.99 percent nothing.
02:23:22.000And when they pass into the crust of the earth nothing happens.
02:23:26.000In the core, the core is so dense, Joe, because of the pressure of the earth it's iron nickel and it's so dense that those they they can't pass through and it actually causes what's called perturbations and it begins to heat the core of the earth and that causes uh it shifts rotation and right now Japanese scientists are saying that the the core is slowed or possibly even stopped.
02:23:52.000I don't know if your guests have talked about that as the core goes through these cycles so you look at the cross section of the earth there's the inner core that's solid the outer core is molten then the mantle is about 1800 miles thick, and it's it's magma, and then the crust is only about 36 miles thick.
02:24:14.000So in the the the textbooks, the inner core always looks like it's floating right in the middle of the earth, but that's not what's happening.
02:24:22.000When it goes when those particles are hitting it and heating it up, it actually bumps up against the outer core, causing ripples, perturbations is what they're called, uh against the mantle, and the mantle begins to seep into the crust, and it's the mantle that is heating the oceans from underneath because of that.
02:24:48.000Happens uh about every well, about every 12,500 years.
02:24:53.000And that number, if you talk to Randall, we just did the conference in Boulder.
02:24:57.000Uh he was in the conference that we did up there, and that uh has to do with the younger dryests.
02:25:03.000You m if um I think you've had guests talking about so the last the younger dryest was the last time that this happened.
02:25:09.000It happened 12,500 years before that, 12,500 years before that.
02:25:16.000I'm looking at that NASA thing, and it said I went to the website, it says that it's rising because the ocean is absorbing the gases, causing the water to rise over time.
02:25:28.000The the ocean is that's the equilibrium.
02:26:01.000When we look into the geologic history, uh we've seen this happen before.
02:26:07.000And it's it's intense, it's brief, and it's what comes after that usually is a problem.
02:26:13.000It's not the warming, it's the change.
02:26:17.000Uh that this was what was interesting.
02:26:19.000Underneath it it said covering more than 70 percent of the Earth's surface, our global global ocean has a very high heat capacity.
02:26:26.000It has uh has absorbed ninety percent of the warming that has occurred in recent decades due to increasing greenhouse gases.
02:26:34.000So this is acknowledging, though, that there has been an increase in the temperature because of our civilization, because of greenhouse gases.
02:29:34.000If we were to meet those goals, they want us to go back to we would meet the goals, it would push it back to about a hundred and or two hundred and thirty-six parts per million is what they're looking at.
02:29:47.000A hundred and eighty parts per million is dangerously low.
02:29:52.000So there, and this isn't something like you can just take a dial and and adjust a little bit here and there.
02:29:59.000They are are pushing, if we were to meet those goals, Earth would have by the way, they're also pushing for global cooling of 10 degrees global average.
02:30:10.000We're at 56 Fahrenheit global average right now.
02:30:57.000And the nations of the earth that have the capability for war are waging that war, and what's happening is we're depleting our resources as nations.
02:31:07.000We are, and I just did a search on this the other night.
02:31:11.000Uh the superpowers are dangerously low on weapons and on the ability humans to fight in those wars.
02:31:19.000If Earth ever needed to fight, we don't have what we need right now.
02:31:45.000Now you look at the transhuman movement to replace us with technology, with machines to debilitate our ability for critical thinking, our ability for imagination for creativity, uh, for all the reasons that we just talked about, use it or lose it.
02:32:06.000When we give our power away to that technology, we're not the best version of ourselves.
02:32:25.000Well, now is where you go back and you look at all those ancient texts.
02:32:29.000You look at the the tr and depending on what language you're using, if you're looking at Sumerian texts, this world um was never ours to begin with, is what those texts say.
02:32:42.000And there is a good argument that can be made that Earth is being modified in ways that are not necessarily good for us.
02:33:23.000Well, we want to have control over things all the time.
02:33:26.000And when you see certain areas that become too hot for a certain kind of agriculture or things change or certain lakes dry up.
02:33:34.000There's things like that that happened that people freak out about because we want control.
02:33:38.000That's why we want to bring animals back from extinction.
02:33:41.000Like we we won't we want control over everything around us because it makes us feel better.
02:33:45.000But the problem with this one is you're getting people that are saying we're gonna lower the earth temperature.
02:33:50.000Like you didn't we didn't vote on that.
02:33:52.000Like just because it's your idea and you people are moving in this direction, you have so much money, you're making a decision for literally eight people.
02:34:00.000These are unelected, unelected officials.
02:34:03.000It's nuts that they think they could spray things in the sky to reflect particles, reflective particles to to dull out the sun and lower the temperature of the earth.
02:34:24.000I think what we do is we recognize, Joe, that all of these applications of technology are a reflection of the way we've been conditioned to think about ourselves.
02:34:35.000When we wake up to become the best version of ourselves, then we recognize it makes sense to go clean and green.
02:34:43.000It makes sense to to grow our food differently.
02:34:45.000It makes sense to have different kinds of energy because we recognize our relationship to ourselves and the world around us.
02:35:24.000Like but then you look at places like is it Singapore, Jamie, that we watched that video where it was fascinating there I believe it's Singapore.
02:35:34.000Um where they have like the most sophisticated recycling program.
02:35:55.000So everything we're talking about is a consequence of what happens when we give our humanness away and we believe that we are a flawed species and that we need something outside of ourselves to be the best version of ourselves, or that we believe we're powerless, so we say to someone else, fix it and make it better.
02:36:14.000We're now, right now, and the AI is driving this conversation.
02:36:18.000We are at the point where we are being asked by the conditions of the world to accept the deep truth of what it means to be human.
02:36:30.000And in that humanness, when we accept our ability that there's a part of us that doesn't live in here, what that means is the more that we can honor the antenna, the gift of the body to access that.
02:36:45.000We become healthier, we become the best version of ourselves.
02:37:12.000Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Trevor Burrus, but no matter what you're trying to do with life.
02:37:14.000Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Well, this is but the AI right now is is the tip of the spear.
02:37:18.000This is what they're using, they again the powers that be because we're so close, Joe, for the first time in A very long time on a mass level to awakening to what it means to be human.
02:37:35.000There are pockets that are coming together, and we're saying no.
02:38:07.000Not the way we're seeing it, not the way we're seeing it right now.
02:38:09.000Not the way this ties in to the disclosure conversation.
02:38:14.000Because when you talk to the people behind the scenes in disclosure, we obviously I don't think anybody would have a problem with a flying saucer in an air Air Force hangar somewhere.
02:38:27.000We've we've seen it in movies where you know I don't think anybody's surprised, but I don't think anybody's got a problem with with a gray alien, you know, in in an Air Force conference room somewhere.
02:38:39.000But the implications, if we've had this relationship for so long, we know they didn't get here on a Chevy V8 engine.
02:38:48.000I mean, they've got some pretty high tech.
02:38:51.000Uh and what the part of the implications are that we are being asked to step up to become a different species to meet the intelligence that is being offered to us.
02:39:10.000And there are different forms of that intelligence.
02:39:14.000Some of that intelligence is prone to war.
02:39:17.000And that's not the ones that we we want to necessarily um.
02:39:23.000That's so hard to believe that they get so far they could travel from other places in the universe, yet they still have war.
02:39:29.000That's the disappointing thing for me.
02:39:31.000And so this is where we go back the ancient texts.
02:39:34.000They begin with a war in the heavens, or what the Bible calls, you know, the the fall.
02:39:40.000And the war is what destroyed a planet in our solar system.
02:39:44.000I think Randall's probably talked about that.
02:39:49.000Well, Mars used to have an atmosphere, it doesn't anymore, and they believe that there is a compelling argument that could be made for war destroying.
02:40:02.000I think when we get there and we see the archaeological remnants that are there, uh I think we'll have the answer to that.
02:40:10.000You have to be so advanced and still have the still allow differences to be so great that the only way to solve them is is to hurt one another and destroy one another.
02:40:32.000Well, maybe this is where we break that cycle.
02:40:34.000Well, maybe maybe we wake up our humanness and we accept the power of human divinity and we accept what it means, uh and we imbue our children with a deep sense of of and a healthy sense that there's something very special about them worth preserving so that they care about themselves, and then that begins to inform the way we live in the world.
02:40:58.000We would be living in a very, very different world.
02:41:00.000I think you're right, and I think you saying that is very important because it gets that word out there and people start to consider it and think about it.
02:41:08.000And I think that's the only way people find these things is for people like you come out and have these conversations and spark thoughts in people's heads, like maybe I'm thinking and behaving and living the wrong way.
02:41:19.000And maybe maybe we could just become more united and more positive and recognize this incredible gift that we have of this life.
02:41:28.000See, the science, the science is so compartmentalized.
02:41:32.000And I saw this when I was working in even in the industry.
02:41:35.000So a discovery is made in genetics and it stays in that genetic box and it gets published in some obscure the new way of thinking is looking at humans from an IT perspective.
02:41:50.000So there are journals like the Journal of Soft Computing.
02:42:17.000Who has a beautiful hardbound copy of the Journal of Soft Computing next to their bed like I do?
02:42:23.000laughter Well, the fact that you know it, you just told people, now people know.
02:42:30.000But if we can begin seeing ourselves and really I think the greatest task that we're cherish, that we're that we're tasked with right now is to cherish an honor and care for the gift of the human body.
02:42:45.000Because I believe it is a gift because there was an intervention that created the mutations that give us what we have today.
02:42:54.000We don't know who or what, but we're not the product of natural evolution.
02:42:59.000And until we understand fully what that is, Joe, why would we want to give that away to technology before we even know what it means to be human?
02:43:07.000And once we give it away, we can never go back.