In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe and his guest, Father Trussel, talk about the anti-Trump protests in Portland, Oregon, and what it means to be a leftist in the 21st century.
00:02:12.000Now it's I I watch these streams, and I've been watching a self-professed fascist named Carlin, who drinks and and basically roasts these live streams.
00:02:30.000But weirdly, she like well, she she has apparently embedded herself with Antifa before.
00:02:37.000And so it's such a funny stream because like So they tolerate her?
00:02:52.000So she's a proudly uh proclaiming she's a fascist.
00:02:55.000I don't know how much of that is trolling, how much of it is real, but conservatives who are drawn to her stream will say things like these people are funded by George Soros.
00:03:03.000And it's the funniest thing because she gets so mad and she's like, get off fucking Fox News, stop watching that shit.
00:03:16.000It's it's so but and I guess her bigger point is by saying these are funded agitators and not saying what they actually are, which is anti-capitalist revolutionaries, you dilute what's really happening because what's really happening, according to her, and I think a a fair amount of people, is that the economy's so fucked.
00:03:42.000The middle class is diminishing so much.
00:03:44.000The cost of living is so high that this is the tilled, the perfect soil you need if you wanted communism to grow anywhere.
00:03:53.000Because you're some kid, you've been like glued to Reddit or TikTok, you've been getting your fucking amygdala jerked off on by the devil.
00:04:03.000You're you're just filled with like unease.
00:04:06.000You've watched assassinations, attempted assassinations, the banking crisis, all of it, and it's like then you like some Marxist theorist starts telling you a little bit about like dismantling capitalism.
00:04:26.000Back when I was in liberal arts school, if shit was the way it was, and some, especially if it was a like some hot goth girl started talking to me a little bit about dismantling capitalism, I think I would be like, Yeah, let's dismantle.
00:04:40.000But that so that's what you're seeing there, uh the the breakdown of it is that Democrats and Republicans, what they have in common is they believe in private property and they they believe the power of the state should be used to protect private property, and so anti-capitalists is communists think that that's just fucked up.
00:05:09.000Essentially the the breakdown of it, as far as I could tell, sorry all the communists out there, I'm gonna ruin Marxism.
00:05:16.000I just I'm saying I don't it's very complex, you know.
00:05:18.000But from what I understand, the idea is this.
00:05:21.000You have a bunch of money, you buy a factory, you hire someone to run the factory, you get a bunch of workers to go into the factory.
00:05:29.000The workers are the ones who are making money for you.
00:06:06.000Just because you had some money, and then when you look at the way money flows uphill, you see this creates a perfect situation for uh uh a world of renters, a world of workers, a world of people getting paid minimum wage, while the the person who owns the means of production gets the most money.
00:06:27.000And so this is a growing sentiment in the world right now.
00:06:32.000And and honestly, it's like you're working two fucking jobs, you're getting paid minimum wage, you know what how much the CEOs are making.
00:06:41.000Or how about the people that came into this country because they were told that the borders were open, they established a life here for four years.
00:07:08.000You're you're watching this shit, you know, and and and you're you're high as a kite, you're watching this stuff.
00:07:16.000In let's just say that you this appeals to a lot of different people, by the way.
00:07:19.000Let's just say you're the Garden for Heidi InfoWars person, you've been listening to Alex Jones or you've read Behold a Pale Horse, or you have any kind of connection to conspiracy prognost prognostications, which all say at some point the the there's gonna be martial law, troops in the streets, right, and you're seeing this play out.
00:07:42.000And so, my God, and and even worse, imagine you're in the fucking military, and you actually join the military, you're one of those people, September 11th happens, you're like, I'm gonna defend this country.
00:07:54.000And suddenly you're in a bus going to Portland.
00:08:00.000Like, I don't think they want to be there.
00:08:02.000If I had a guess, it's gotta be a weird feeling to be in your own country with like military grade weaponry, looking at people in duck costumes.
00:08:17.000Yeah, it's a very blunt instrument to deal with a very complex problem.
00:08:29.000It looks it when you're uh just arresting people in front of their kids and just normal regular people that have been here for 20 years, that everybody who has a heart can't get along with that.
00:09:16.000Find a way where you can do this thing that you want to do, which is keep terrorists and cartel members from getting across the border with drugs that kill a hundred thousand people a year.
00:10:33.000I figured they would be all up his ass.
00:10:36.000So his defense of the Machiavellian tactics that are being employed right now is that he apparently has worked as some kind of border agent for 20 years.
00:10:47.000He says, you could hear it in his voice, man.
00:10:57.000With children there who died, no oxygen.
00:10:59.000I've I've been in I've seen these these horrors that have come from the uh open border, and and how awful it is.
00:11:07.000If we give any semblance of compassion or mercy for the people who've been here for 20 years, for the people with kids, the kids who get any any loophole that we convey is going to produce more people trying to come over the border,
00:11:27.000and many of those people are gonna get killed, they're gonna, you know, the drown, they're there there will be many deaths because of this, not to mention the drug smuggling and all that stuff.
00:11:39.000And so every time the NPR reporter would push back with the human rights compassion angle, his take is yeah, but which which do we pick?
00:11:50.000Which do we choose creating some way for people to stay in the United States who came here as kids and do the nuanced compassionate thing, but it gives the impression to the rest of the world that we're doing that, and that gets X amount of people killed, that that many people die.
00:12:09.000That was his take on it, which is why they're doing this.
00:12:13.000You're still gonna have human trafficking, and if you've got a very closed border and you give amnesty, they're gonna let they're gonna figure out a way to get people in.
00:12:23.000That's his argument, and and you know that what you when he was talking about like all the awful shit he's seen, and you hear it in his voice.
00:12:30.000Yeah, you're like, okay, maybe I don't completely agree with your point of view, but I can understand where you're coming from there.
00:12:40.000And yet, when you see this in practice, you know, when you when you when it's not an NPR interview and you see the videos you've been seeing and everyone else has been seeing, then you realize like there's okay, sure, but there must be a a way to do this that doesn't involve ripping parents out of their communities,
00:13:02.000away from their children, that doesn't involve like actually removing people who've been contributing to society to American society from American society, sending people to other countries when they can't even speak the language.
00:13:28.000I thought I really thought they were just gonna go after the criminals.
00:13:31.000I really thought there was enough gang members and enough people, MS-13 members and whatever they were looking for that that they're wanted, they would go after those guys.
00:13:41.000Dude, I I you know That's what I thought, right?
00:13:44.000But how many gang members have they actually arrested?
00:13:48.000But you you see how you know, and I hate using this word because the word is getting thrown around so much and it's a stupid well, you didn't say that word, I'll say authoritarianism.
00:13:58.000You see how how authoritarianism when it begins to emerge, um it's not like it's like non consensual.
00:14:08.000You see how it slowly, slowly creeps in, and how there's a great many people directly impacted by um people who have uh you know cross the border without using the right protocol, and in a horrific way.
00:14:28.000And and there are gangs that have been in apartment complexes there.
00:14:33.000So there's people who've seen those videos too.
00:14:38.000Yeah, fu and also a lot of people who got citizenship the regular way and went through fucking hell to get citizenship here, they're also like, fuck them.
00:14:48.000They're cutting in line, these motherfuckers.
00:15:03.000So there is a contingent of people uh who maybe feel the same thing all of us are feeling better.
00:15:10.000Also are like, but you know, what's worse?
00:15:15.000You know, I I like I'm you know This is how I think the the only way to do it would be where you could get all everyone on your side.
00:15:24.000Borders are closed, and we're gonna find out who's committed felonies, who out of the people that are illegal that have committed felonies.
00:15:33.000And if you've committed X amount of felonies, you have you have to leave the country.
00:15:47.000But if you've been here for 25 years, you have a family, your kids go to school here, you speak the language, you're just illegal.
00:15:56.000But you're a contributing member to the community that up until now has been protected.
00:16:01.000This is crazy to ask lower income and and middle income people who are, you know, kind of getting by, and then all of a sudden you're about to ship them to a country where they've never been.
00:16:12.000They haven't been since they were four.
00:16:42.000And you know, I think one thing both of us have in common is really good at like thinking from the other perspective.
00:16:49.000Like I can put myself fully into the mind of like a super paranoid person who lives in a city that's all fucked up, and who's like, yeah.
00:17:00.000It's like remember that awesome show where it's like one of those vengeance shows where that this dad, his family gets fucked up by gang members, and then he just goes and starts shooting people.
00:17:17.000So there's a lot of people who are in death wish mode right now, and they're just like, fuck yeah, get the troops in the fucking streets, these motherfuckers, I get my car broken into every fucking night, nothing's happening.
00:17:42.000But it's like how bad does the police have to get at doing their job, or is it the upper management that institutes policies, or is it that the people vote these policies in?
00:17:56.000But whatever it is that allows the kind of fucking chaos that you can fight in Portland, like whatever this is, you guys aren't doing it right.
00:18:05.000If this was a house and I came over your house and these are your kids, I would call protective services.
00:18:10.000I'd be like, this fucking psychopath must be smoking meth with his kids because everybody's just running around camped out on the fucking sidewalk.
00:19:19.000And it's that that's the place where it gets weird.
00:19:24.000This is the problem is it's like this is what uh Choggyum Trump or MJ called idiot compassion.
00:19:32.000There's compassion, then there's idiot compassion.
00:19:35.000Now, idiot compassion is thinking that leaving a a bunch of people out in the streets who have varying degrees of psychosis and drug addiction and long-term brain injury.
00:19:49.000And then thinking it's let's just let them do their thing.
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00:22:52.000Yeah, and you know, and you can see how somebody how watching this, you you you might ask yourself, is there something wrong with the system that this is one of the things that can happen in the United States if you fail hard enough.
00:23:08.000You know, and and 'cause like talk about like the the heart the the idea of a heart.
00:24:48.000Really what you're looking at there is like he it doesn't take showers.
00:24:52.000That's a really dirty person right now.
00:24:54.000He doesn't have access to showers, and they look when you see them, they can seem really intimidating.
00:25:00.000And so we go up there, and somebody told me whenever you give shit to these people, ask them their name because they're dehumanized, like people, they're invisible.
00:25:13.000So I go up there and I can't like please, please don't let this be some kind of fucking psycho crackhead who starts screaming out demonic babble and like and r ruins any altruism my boy's gonna have for the rest of his life.
00:26:08.000Um and this Richard Dolan book is all about these different hybrids of aliens and humans that have been encountered in uh various people's abduction experiences.
00:26:36.000Well, they think that what's going on is the best guess is they're doing some sort of genetic engineering either on humans or have done it on humans, or are using human DNA for maybe another project they're doing.
00:26:55.000But there's it has something to do with breeding and there's something to do with genetic engineering, but like some of them say that they're forced to have sex with female aliens, like a female sex sexy alien comes in and this it's but it sounds real.
00:27:11.000It doesn't sound like it really happened, but it sounds like if I was an alien and you know, I was running science experiments.
00:27:21.000What one best way to make it like the least traumatic to get the jizz out of your body is to devise a really hot like female alien that's mostly like a woman, like almost entirely like a human woman.
00:27:38.000They do you think they tried other ones before they got to like a hot woman every now and then they need some pure human DNA, and that's when they get a dude to fuck her.
00:32:19.000But when you hear mutual aid, that uh that's that point that's I'm not gonna say it's a dog whistle, but that's essentially like one of the one of the concepts that they work with, which I I actually I I kind of like that uh concept of mutual aid.
00:32:38.000I mean it's also come under scrutiny for channeling substantial campaign funds to the democratic socialists of America, raising alarm among opponents who see this as evidence of radical influence.
00:32:49.000As soon as you get outside of a meritocracy, everything falls apart.
00:32:52.000And if you don't realize that by now, folks, there's nothing I can tell you that's gonna change your mind.
00:32:58.000And it always leads to one thing, which is you have to enforce these very rigid laws that nobody wants to adhere to.
00:33:04.000And the way you do that is with the military.
00:33:06.000Shazam, you got a military dictatorship.
00:33:19.000And and the people at the top live like kings.
00:33:22.000Here's how I think if I was gonna make the argument, which I agree with you on meritocracy in the sense that uh, you know, that's the it's the ecosystem we live in as comedians.
00:33:33.000It's it's it's the I think you could say if we disrupted the meritocracy in nature, then it would God, it would fuck up almost every biome.
00:33:45.000And the the So, but I would say, what about like a merit your body has a meritocracy?
00:33:54.000The white blood cells in your body, when they're functioning, they get rid of parts of your body that are fucked up little genetic patterns.
00:34:19.000I don't think our bodies are a meritocracy, actually.
00:34:21.000I think they're more of a symphony than a meritocracy.
00:34:24.000But then if you want to go to a good sif symphony, you want everyone playing in the symphony to be the best.
00:34:30.000But what let's let's just talk about what we were talking about earlier when it's like a company, and so the workers who make your product make very little money and you make all the money.
00:34:39.000Wouldn't there be a way to do capitalism with a heart?
00:34:47.000Like capitalism where where you're make a reasonable amount of money that's large.
00:35:46.000Isn't that that'd you be able to get better people?
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00:37:36.000And I'm not saying I don't own stocks.
00:37:38.000But what I'm saying is it's a crazy idea to have little pieces of companies that you can buy and then use that money to get the company going and you go public and you take in some fucking money and then you're on the boat and then you got the board meeting.
00:37:55.000It's like and you're constantly rising and falling with the Dow.
00:38:40.000I this is what to me, this is way outside of my pay grade because I have, you know, you know, I did make some money on it was AMC or GameStop thanks to thanks to Wall Street bets.
00:39:24.000There's some actual thing that just shuts it down because it's gone too high or gone too low.
00:39:30.000And they've got to, I guess, look at it and like make sure that that's not a malfunction.
00:39:34.000And then that leads to recessions or depressions and and all of it is like a very complex game of DD.
00:39:43.000Like it's just fucking numbers in a computer somewhere.
00:39:46.000And everyone's on the street, everybody's the same.
00:39:50.000Everyone is still capable of delivering mutual aid to each other, but because we've become so attached to this very complex, very serious game, like at a casino, we don't know how to disengage from it and get back to reality reality, which is help your neighbors, get to know your neighbors.
00:40:30.000Ah, he's so but he, you know, he was talking about like how the way that we even currently use currency is totally different from the way it used to, it used to be.
00:40:42.000And that his whole point is like the that level of reality I don't think he's discounting it, but that isn't reality reality.
00:40:53.000Reality reality is boots on the ground where the rubber hits the road.
00:40:58.000Do you are you like do you know your neighbors or have you just retracted into your fucking weird little conch shell and you're just staring into rectangles completely alienated from the rest of your community?
00:41:14.000Especially if you're in a high rise doing that.
00:41:52.000The good old days when they put cocaine in in Coca-Cola.
00:41:55.000There's a this there's a precedent for speed in our country.
00:42:00.000This isn't the first time there's been a speed craze in our country.
00:42:02.000Like Freud was like shooting up cocaine.
00:42:07.000Like this was people thought that it was a cure for a malaise that was afflicting people, and they said that malaise was a result of things getting too fast in society because of trains and stuff.
00:42:22.000Now this is back before computers, and they were already like shit's moving too fast.
00:44:23.000She went to the jungle to where they make the cocaine, and she was with them while they were making the cocaine and then went through the jungle with them when they bring it on their back.
00:45:29.000But she's the one that documented it all and it's showing how if you follow this road up, you just get addiction and addiction in the Kentucky, and it's all coming right out of Florida.
00:46:18.000They're gonna give you a nice bottle of fucking I think it's like opium or heroin, liquid hair, you just go back to your That's all those wild west movies, people got hooked on that.
00:46:29.000A lot of you know, it was like a lot of like the the wives, like one of the wives get hooked on it.
00:46:37.000You would give this so this is America it keeps having these recurrences of hair some kind of opiate emerging into the mainstream and fucking up America or cocaine, or in the new drug, these m the algorithm high that we're all getting high on.
00:46:58.000This is the new cocaine that we have yet to uh give it the right name.
00:47:05.000Right now we call them phones, which is so funny you call these things phones.
00:47:09.000I know, because how often do you use it as a phone?
00:48:05.000And then the thought of having ads in my kitchen filled me with joy, and I knew that's what was you know everybody has their own personal Jesus.
00:48:21.000I it is that to me, like, and I'm generally like I really like government regulation freaks me out most of the time, but fuck man, we gotta do something about this algorithm because it's driving people crazy.
00:48:35.000We've got people out of their fucking mind.
00:48:37.000There needs to at least be education in schools to explain to you that because you are getting a certain type of content, that does not mean that's what everybody's looking at.
00:49:16.000And I don't think people understand that when you're getting like political shit served up to you, that is not what everybody's getting.
00:49:26.000No, it doesn't mean there's a can you have a there's a consensus here.
00:49:29.000Well, that's also why people get so confused when the cultural divide is so so strict, it's such a wall.
00:49:37.000The difference between what people accept as being reality versus what people are willing to challenge versus you know, it's just the differences on both sides of their so it because they're they have these echo chambers and they really do believe that everybody around them agrees with them, and then if you're in like normal jobs, normal castrated jobs, you know, normal job we have to go in there and pretend to be somebody else all day long, and you're so bored, yeah, and you can't wait to get the fuck out of there.
00:50:18.000But you know, the Well, this is what it is.
00:50:20.000I what I was saying, though, like when you're on the ground, like anytime there's a protest, a protest is too much like war.
00:50:29.000Cause you're marching together, and uh there's a lot of energy and there's a cause, and people are yelling, and it ignites the feeling of war.
00:50:39.000The same way when you go fishing, you don't know why, but it even you take a little kid fishing.
00:50:44.000The moment they catch that fish moments on the hook, they're like, oh, yeah, they get so excited because you're genetically rewarded, like your hormones fire up, your endorphins fire up historically throughout human history.
00:50:59.000That was the way you're gonna be able to feed yourself.
00:51:09.000You're you're a mob and you're about to go to war.
00:51:12.000And anybody that gets in front of you, fuck you, you're fucking car.
00:51:15.000Yeah, people get completely unreasonable, and it's totally tolerated, not just tolerated, but it's supported by a bunch of other people who just start kicking the car.
00:51:25.000Yeah, people that would never kick a car in polite society.
00:52:12.000They're eating arrows all on the way, but they're gonna kill most of the guards, and they're gonna get inside and they're gonna behead the king and they're gonna hold it over the balcony, and everyone's gonna cheer, and that guy's the new king.
00:53:03.000People are going legitimately like talk about like heartlessness, like, you know, part of war, of course, is dehumanization.
00:53:10.000Like, there's no way you can like be a successful soldier and humanize the people that you're attacking.
00:53:16.000Like when, you know, if you're a drone operator, you don't want to like think about like, wow, this I bet this guy's kids are gonna be pretty upset when they find out their dad died.
00:53:27.000And and so this is what's the the other thing that we're being invited to do via this algorithmic induced psychosis is to dehumanize huge swaths of people that we probably don't know anything about, you know, except from what our algorithm is introducing to us, which is an anomalous point one point five, even if it's one percent of a population, the algorithm isn't does has no nuance.
00:53:57.000The algorithm is like, let me show you the craziest motherfucker you've ever seen.
00:54:01.000And that's when you're gonna see some like I don't know, a clown with breast implants with like windmilling his dick in front of it in front of a fucking elementary school, and you're like, fuck, what is happening?
00:55:00.000Like if someone said, uh, we're gonna get the National Guard, we're gonna go through Scottsdale, Arizona, they'd be like, What the fuck are you talking about?
00:55:08.000There's like nothing happening here at all.
00:55:10.000Well, that would be that would be nuts.
00:55:12.000So then it it has to get so bad that people are like, you know what, let's bring in the military, and then a bunch of people are like, fuck yeah.
00:55:23.000If like if I was a evil wizard running the world, yeah.
00:55:26.000Yeah, if I was a puppeteer, I would get super incompetent people and place them throughout the Pacific Northwest and uh have these people just be the most inept politicians of all time, right?
00:55:37.000The dumbest policies that keep ruining cities everywhere they go, but yet everybody still supports it because they're on a cult.
00:55:56.000And basically, like maybe they robbed because they needed food, okay?
00:56:00.000Maybe they just wanted bread for their family, right?
00:56:03.000And then just let it deteriorate to the point where you can bring in the military.
00:56:09.000And then and then you lock it down, and then you fund the resistance so that they attack the military so you can spend more money on the military fighting the resistance.
00:56:18.000And you you know, you kind of spar sort of like Jake Paul and Mike Tyson.
00:56:22.000You don't really go at it a hundred percent.
00:56:24.000And then you just keep this fucking party rolling, and you have ultimate control over the entire civilization under th their own decisions.
00:56:33.000Like they decided to have it this way.
00:57:17.000And I think if that's your game, okay, I I like to play pool.
00:57:21.000But if you're into global world dominance, if that's your game and you think you might actually be able to pull it off and be mentioned in the annals of history along with Rockefeller and other great titans of business.
00:57:34.000Yes, uh, you're probably gonna do that because that's your game.
00:57:54.000You're thinking, oh dear God, this technology that I worked on is about to wake up.
00:58:00.000We already have iterations of it that are infinitely smarter than anyone I've ever met.
00:58:04.000I don't know if if it's been manipulating me or not, because it seems to have a Hannibal lectors ability to control my psyche, even when I don't want it to.
00:58:11.000We've done the study, seven people in my company have committed suicide because of contact with this fucking thing.
00:58:31.000I d well, I mean, we do have people committing suicide, but only because like they they like the they they updated, they patched the AI girlfriend or whatever, and it's like basically someone you are in love with died.
00:59:09.000It is he's like, it's I it sounds like you're accusing me of of killing him.
00:59:12.000First of all, we worked together and I cared about him very much, and it's like I had nothing to do with it.
00:59:17.000The police said that it was a suicide.
00:59:20.000And then Tucker was talking about how the guy had just ordered food and about um there were signs of struggle, and he was just saying a bunch of different things together and and Sam Altman's like, it sounds like you're accusing me of killing him.
00:59:36.000I you know like very very it's kind of a crazy conversation to see happen between a guy who is in charge of making a digital god and a guy who's accusing him of possibly being or not even accusing him.
00:59:51.000He's just bringing up the fact that he doesn't believe not accusing him at all, actually, just but bringing up the fact that he doesn't believe that that guy committed suicide and that his parents don't believe that he committed suicide.
01:00:04.000There was no indications that he was suicidal.
01:00:07.000It was how I wonder what Tucker Carlson's security detail looks like.
01:00:28.000Like that I w yeah, I worry about him of all the people, it's like holy shit, that guy is not afraid to poke every goddamn wasp nest there is.
01:00:36.000And he's it's like that's a lot of pressure.
01:01:04.000Yeah, then they they fucking booted him off Fox, and then he became like this renegade free agent journalist just out there kicking up dust.
01:01:13.000Did they ever give a direct reason for why they kicked him off Fox?
01:01:18.000Was there ever Wasn't he Well, I think I the sense I got was that they weren't letting him talk about certain things and he was gonna keep talking about it, is the sense I got, and I can't remember what exactly he was doing, but I think well he seems to be very much against war.
01:01:39.000And so I think he might have been saying something I can't remember, but something enough to do with the Dominion Voting Machine lawsuit, because didn't Fox have a giant lawsuit with the Remember that?
01:01:58.000Private messages surfaced during litigation, concealed Carlson's extreme off air views, including racist and offensive comments, which alarmed Fox executives and confirmed that his on-air rhetoric reflected his genuine beliefs.
01:02:11.000See the problem with that is like what did he say?
01:02:14.000Like you're you're just like labeling it racist and offensive comments.
01:02:18.000Like can I just s hear what he said in the comments?
01:02:36.000The firing came shortly after Fox News settled a seven hundred and eighty seven point five million dollar defamation lawsuit with Dominion voting systems over false election fraud rumors promoted on the network in which Carlson was implicated.
01:02:53.000So it could have been a part of that for sure.
01:02:56.000Carlson's behavior described it as erratic and damaging, along with private communications expressing see uh this thing like expressing racist and vulgar language, like what did he say?
01:06:57.000There is a medusa quality to the thing he has gotten sucked into, which is the longer you look at it, the more you get crystallized, petrified into some weird political form.
01:07:10.000And that that that's what I think Ram Doss would always talk about that I loved is like there's all these channels, right?
01:07:18.000And and one channel that you most people default to you're a you and I'm a me, and you're you're my enemy, you're my friend, or my lover, or my fan, or Whatever, and I'm this thing, and that's one channel.
01:07:32.000And politics lives in that channel of reality.
01:08:01.000And that leads to other channels, which is sort of a pure unified consciousness.
01:08:08.000And if you get locked into the into that, and I that political channel is many of us have been locked, like Tucker Carlson.
01:08:17.000You can feel it pulling you in like quicksand.
01:08:20.000You can feel how it takes up all of your thought processes.
01:08:23.000How if you're not careful, in the middle of the day, you'll just be ruminating over whether what ICE is doing is correct in Portland, a city far away from you, not noticing anything around you, not thinking about anything other than whatever the algorithm has been injecting into your mind.
01:08:41.000And this is a form of idolatry, father, if you ask me, which is we you begin worshiping the state, and you begin worshiping the story in the news or whatever you're encountering, which is default reality.
01:08:56.000So you start bowing down to this idol with your attention.
01:09:01.000And you know, like in I'm sorry, that'll shut up in a second.
01:09:04.000The the stories of Krishna, which is uh people who are into bhakti yoga, they that's one of the deities that they worship.
01:09:13.000And so in Bhakti Yoga, God doesn't care if you are connected to God via love or even hate.
01:09:21.000Because the connection itself is all that matters, and the more like there's stories of demons that wanted to kill Krishna and were so focused on hating them, him that they became his like greatest devotees because just via the attention, they transformed.
01:09:37.000Similarly, whether you hate the state, love the state, hate the dims, love the dims, hate the republicans, love the republicans.
01:09:47.000All of your attention is fixated on this fucking thing.
01:09:51.000Neurons that fire together, wire together, your brain changes.
01:09:55.000It literally will change the neurological makeup of your brain.
01:09:58.000You've become a political animal, fixated, trapped, petrified in this, and you've completely are missing out on all the other things that are happening around it.
01:10:08.000And that's what gives it that malevolent glow of some dark deity.
01:10:15.000Because via your fixation and focus, the rest of reality dims.
01:10:21.000Everything else dims until all you're doing is saying some mantra against the state or for the state, you know.
01:11:17.000And if you if you think of the human race on earth, if you thought you've thought of if you thought of us as like one giant super organism, you would think, oh, they figured out electricity, and now they're starting to grow together.
01:11:40.000Now they develop these construction methods where they can get a hundred floors straight up in the air, and they're smashing all together, and they're kind of dehumanizing each other and they're piling on top of each other in this totally new way of existing together.
01:11:55.000Like they've never had people in history stacked on top of each other for a hundred Floors.
01:13:27.000It's like the whatever it is, though, I do think it's a natural thing in the sense that what you're saying, if if you look at the trajectory that everything it does seem to be.
01:13:38.000I don't necessarily think it's God either.
01:14:52.000So another thirteen like if we got hit by an asteroid and it wiped out the human race and rats had a start from scratch and become us again, which is the theory.
01:15:01.000The theory is that there was a a tiny little mole.
01:15:05.000Yeah, like a little marsupial type creature.
01:16:15.000There is beautiful cave art by these people.
01:16:18.000Well, this is there's this theory that this gene emerged somewhere around 40,000 years ago, and they thought that maybe the gene came from the so this gene okay, I'm getting it now.
01:16:31.000The gene is only transferred through um genetics.
01:16:36.000It's only it's only transferred through um through mating and it has to be from another species of human.
01:16:44.000And so they look for it in Neanderthal and it doesn't exist in Neanderthal.
01:16:48.000Every Neanderthal that they've tested, they did the gene sequencing, it doesn't have this.
01:16:53.000And then they tried some other hominids.
01:17:00.000No, because it's the way it I'm gonna butcher it, but it's the way somehow or another the genes are fused together, that it looks like it was manipulated, and that it could be bullshit.
01:17:24.000He claims that um microcephalin DLL L D. I was gonna say that.
01:17:30.000I was thinking it's I think it's D allele is a genetic variant that appeared around 40,000 years ago and is associated with the maturation and expansion of brain tissue.
01:17:39.000He suggests that the origin of this allele could be from interbreeding with an extraterrestrial species, hot aliens, rather than from Neanderthals or Denisovans.
01:17:50.000Dolan highlights that this allele is not found the genetic makeup of these ancient human relatives, which leads him to speculate that it might be might have been introduced into the human genome pool by alien beings with either similar biological characteristics or advanced genetic engineering capabilities.
01:18:08.000This is this claim is a part of Dolan's broader hypothesis that alien intervention could explain sudden advanced cognitive abilities in early humans.
01:18:18.000So imagine if we were like this just crazy ant farm to make AI, and that uh you just have to figure out how to incentivize them enough to keep making computers, and you hide in the ocean while this is happening.
01:18:29.000You got this fucking fat base at the bottom of the ocean because you're from you know a million years more advanced civilization.
01:18:56.000He's hilarious talking about saying there might be, but it it did it felt like disclosure.
01:19:03.000And it felt like the perfect way to do disclosure, which is not nice and casual with a southern accent where there's about five bases that we've located at the bottom of the ocean, and they seem to be responsible for most of these UAPs.
01:19:41.000I mean, like we say we know more about the types of the moon than we do what's what's going on there.
01:19:46.000Now we have a higher propensity of sightings around these five or six, I believe, deep area, deep water areas.
01:19:56.000And so to me it just um it creates a um a question there.
01:20:01.000And then when we have naval personality.
01:20:05.000They all telling me that we have these sidings, and that these there's these underwater craft they're chasing that are doing hundreds of miles an hour, and the best we've got is something that does maybe just a little under forty miles an hour.
01:20:19.000So I I got a lot of questions about that stuff, and I I mean Hey Jamie, um, can you look up how fast is five hundred knots?
01:20:59.000I think it was one of the might have been one of his.
01:21:02.000Either way, uh who whatever the sighting was, they saw something moving through the ocean that was bigger than a football field and it was going 500 knots.
01:21:38.000If we do that kind of disclosure, whatever the fuck is revealed, which is ba somewhat like what you're saying, like it's an existential challenge to humanity.
01:21:49.000If, as it turns out, we're just some kind of 3D meat meaty 3D printer designed to produce a superintelligence that then is its final instruction to us tells us how to open a wormhole through which we become connected to the Galactic Federation.
01:22:09.000You know, you just get a get some fucking monkeys, throw a couple of like the right bits of DNA in their dumb ass, and you know, a few million years a border will open for the Emperor to come through.
01:22:20.000And that's what that's probably a little challenging to a lot of people who don't want to imagine that we are just uh uh cattle that we're created by a superintelligence to build a spaceport.
01:22:34.000Also, if you really want to push the idea of engineering people down to genderless, sexless beings that don't talk and just have big heads and communicate telepathically, the first thing you gotta do is get rid of testosterone.
01:23:08.000You definitely should, but the point is like there's a trend that's happening where it's d feminizing men, and it's uh there's terms like toxic masculinity, which you really needed toxically masculine people to defend your borders for the longest time.
01:23:22.000There was Vikings were coming, you needed animals on your side.
01:23:26.000Uh and then it's going to, and then there's like a lot of like gender confusion and the gender's a spectrum, and it's like it's all moving into this like sexless direction.
01:23:36.000And as soon as they can replace because if you think about like what you're getting out of sex, you're getting affection and love and the feelings, and and but you're also like you're fulfilling this genetic thing, this genetic thing that wants you to breed.
01:23:54.000They're gonna do that in your head, and it's gonna be so much better than anything you're ever gonna get from a person because you're a gelatinous slob that drinks Mountain Dew all day and you eat Cheetos and just stay at home.
01:24:06.000But you don't have to go anywhere because there's universal basic income now that AI took over.
01:24:10.000And you just plug that motherfucker into your brain and then it's like you and Sharon Stone when she was twenty five, and you're walking hand in hand on the beach and she's stroking your hair, and it feels so real, and you're never gonna unplug.
01:24:44.000Uh I want to become the top podcaster on planet Earth via talking about mushrooms and aliens, and also I want to be able to interview the most powerful people on planet Earth and and make a gobs of dough that way.
01:25:05.000That sounds like I would pick that if I was choosing experiences, you know.
01:25:11.000I mean, when you look at your experience, both of our experiences are incredibly anomalous.
01:25:18.000Very and surely, from time to time, especially when you're eating mushrooms or something, you must kind of like think, come on.
01:25:31.000I think um this the game of being a human being is a game you really you don't really start even figuring out that it's a game until you're like deep into your thirties.
01:25:44.000and you're like oh I think I understand what's happening here and along the way of this game there's multiple different layers there's the people excuse me there's a people that are just starting to enter the game you know you're getting out of high school you're going into college you're starting to work on the side you're just starting to enter this game and then there's these Elon Musk characters that have gone so far down the game that you don't recognize them as one of us anymore.
01:26:25.000Because you're playing in a different universe with different sets of experiences, different d completely different circumstances and safety.
01:26:33.000Completely different amount of love and satisfaction with life.
01:27:01.000Well, I mean, you though the the reality of it is if you based on what you just said, you could create, you could uh make maps of these alternate realities simultaneously existing.
01:27:13.000And for sure, if you uh are in the top echelon of like earners in the world, you are seeing things most people will never see.
01:27:23.000You're encountering things no one will encounter, you're getting information no one has access to, not to mention the hedonic levels of it and all that stuff.
01:27:31.000And also, because of your encounter with reality from the perspective of someone who doesn't have to struggle with the same things most people do, you are going to develop a completely different world view.
01:27:45.000And your inner breeding, that's I I read this whole story about how wealth is like the Galapagos Islands.
01:27:51.000Rich people, they're only encountering other rich people, then and their their children are fucking, you know, not children, but you know, when they grow up, they're fucking and then well, I mean, I guess if we talk about Epstein, some of their children are fucking.
01:28:05.000Why don't they release that fucking list, huh?
01:28:07.000I don't mean to divert this to the Epstein list.
01:28:09.000I just meant to ask you, isn't it weird?
01:28:21.000Like the the list is it's probably they don't probably don't have like a list in terms of like you have to sign up when you go to the island.
01:28:36.000All I know isn't it always been public knowledge in terms of like when people want to investigate things?
01:28:41.000Like if you go on a plane, say if you fly on a private plane, which most of these guys do, they you you tell everyone knows who's on the plane.
01:29:04.000And like that the fact that and no one's saying that just because you went there, you didn't do you didn't do a uh it doesn't mean you necessarily did a heinous crime.
01:29:15.000Because I think you can't just have it chaos over there.
01:29:19.000I bet it was a real good honeypot where there's a lot of sophisticated intellectual discourse, you got a lot of brilliant people there, you've got great music, you know.
01:29:30.000You got like famous people are hanging around too.
01:30:42.000Okay, the Senate voted fifty-one to forty-nine to defeat an amendment that would have forced the Department of Justice to release all files related to Jeffrey Epstein.
01:30:52.000The vote was largely along party lines.
01:30:55.000With two Republicans joining all Democrats and supporting the amendment.
01:31:47.000Well so then they've been uh not only is the government shut down right now, I think that might affect it.
01:31:51.000Some but they're in recess Congresses.
01:31:54.000And so this is Eric Swalwell said this stuff today.
01:31:57.000Uh I again it might not be true, but it's coming to an end, guys.
01:32:01.000I've spoken to a lot of House Republicans this week and they can find it that Trump's movement support is fading, as one told me this Epstein bomb is about to drop, and no one wants to defend a pedo protector.
01:32:11.000It's just a matter of time, Swal Swallow said in a thread.
01:32:14.000One Republican just texts me that there's a discharge vote on Epstein, they expect a jailbreak of over a hundred members.
01:32:21.000So they said this further goes on to say that if they get back that they're this is the first thing on the docket, and that's sort of what's holding them back in recess right here.
01:33:07.000He said he had a girl on his lap while they talked.
01:33:11.000The girl was like twenty-one years old.
01:33:13.000And uh he I think I think he said she was Asian, I don't remember.
01:33:17.000But you said she was really beautiful.
01:33:18.000And uh she was sitting on his lap and he was bouncing her up and down while they were talking.
01:33:24.000So talking about finance and and her her boobs are juggling.
01:33:29.000So she's she he goes, she wasn't underage or anything.
01:33:32.000She was a woman, but she was sitting on his lap and he was bouncing her around and her boobs were bouncing in his face while they were like while they're trying to concentrate on whatever the fuck they're talking about some David Lynch shit right there, man.
01:34:37.000I think the problem is a lot of those guys wanted him to be real because what fun.
01:34:42.000What fun you get to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein everybody thinks it was kids, and it probably there probably was a lot of that because I don't know what the actual accusations have been because the wildest thing about the Gallane trial is like she went to jail for trafficking to who knows who.
01:34:59.000The fact that you could just put her in jail and you like who'd you traffic to?
01:35:04.000Like none of that gets out in the trial at all.
01:35:12.000So you don't know it what the we hear it was underage girls.
01:35:15.000We know that there was some of them were underage for sure.
01:35:18.000And then we also know that some of them were not underage.
01:35:20.000They were they were young women, and you you know, they all have like one of them wound up dying recently.
01:35:28.000One of them that's been a whistleblower died.
01:35:30.000Like that's you imagine you're a young girl and you're fucking broke, and then you you meet that guy, and he invites you to go on a fucking island somewhere or party somewhere, and you're hanging out with all these fucking creeps, and then years later, when all it starts coming out, what happened?
01:35:49.000You go public and you don't have any money.
01:36:02.000That's fuck that's gotta be terrifying.
01:36:04.000Lawmaker claimed the files included one Hollywood producer worth a few hundred million dollars, one Royal Prince, one high profile individual in the music industry, one very prominent banker, one high profile government official, one high profile former politician, one owner of a car company in Italy, one rock star, one magician, at least six billionaires, including a billionaire from Canada.
01:36:25.000We know these people exist in the FBI files, the files that you control.
01:36:32.000See this this right here, this is scary shit.
01:36:37.000Because this is how communism gets started.
01:36:38.000This is when they they attack though, they realize like this is like indefensible, and it gets to the point where people are like, maybe mom Donnie's right.
01:37:08.000And so th if as it turns out, and dude, you guys, if you want to have a dark few days, listen to Martyrmaid's episode on the Epstein Files.
01:37:18.000It's not what you hecause he goes, he has he just points to other times the state has protected organized sex trafficking rings.
01:37:29.000Like this isn't the first time this shit has happened.
01:37:56.000The DC Madam story was this lady got busted and she had a book filled with high profile individuals from Washington that uh she and her ladies were uh servicing.
01:39:33.000You give enough money to this politician or that politician, and it's not like you own them, but they know you gave them all this money and they know they want to run again.
01:39:42.000They also know that you've got your own constituents and you have a lot of control network of bots that you could easily unleash on the internet.
01:39:51.000And and so yeah, I think it's a safe bet that more it's highly likely that it's donors who are on that list and who are compromised for real, who are exerting massive amounts of pressure on the federal government to not release those fucking files.
01:40:13.000But and and it and it could be that it's an existential threat.
01:40:16.000It could be that it would cause so much tumult that it could lead to an actual uprising.
01:40:22.000It could lead to like a bunch of us with torches standing around the fucking castle ready to burn the vampire out.
01:40:30.000And I think that that that must be it, because if I'm a career politician, dude, I don't want to vote against releasing something that is going we if there are monsters among us, we need to know.
01:40:42.000Dude, in my neighborhood, we got a scary ass fucking letter.
01:40:46.000If you're you if you're just a uh a basic bitch sex offender, and you move anywhere in Texas, m mass mail goes out with your picture on it and your fucking address.
01:40:59.000So why is it that there are these very same people who are working right now, who are out there, nobody knows, who are actual predatory pedophiles, and our government is protecting them.
01:41:12.000That's the other terrifying thing about the open border in the name of compassion and you know, not stopping people from coming into the country.
01:41:20.000One thing that they think was a lot of it was sex trafficking kids, kids.
01:41:26.000That there's there's truly evil people in the world, truly evil people in the world that want a child to do terrible things and they'll pay a lot of money to get one.
01:41:37.000Dude, this is why I go to Catholic mass now.
01:41:40.000I need like I It's like if you've never encountered real evil, you wouldn't believe that that would be possible.
01:41:47.000But then when you find out the numbers of kids that went missing, dude that came across the border, the number of kids where they have no trace of them, they have no idea where they went.
01:41:57.000We're talking thousands and thousands of kids.
01:41:59.000Now I'm not saying they all got sex trafficked, but I bet some of them did.
01:42:07.000And if it if it's a person where there's no record of them, no one's gonna know they're missing.
01:42:13.000You just you could probably there's probably some fucking dark twisted motherfuckers that would give you a lot of bitcoin for something like that.
01:42:57.000There is an omnipresent force in the world.
01:43:01.000And this is what I love in the Bible when they say it's powers and principalities.
01:43:05.000There is a I don't know what you want to call it, an egg regore, I guess you could say, a kind of connective embodiment of what it means to be off the path, what it means to be selfish, what it means to be self-concerned, what it means to rationalize hurting other people.
01:43:22.000And that that thing has a uh a personality.
01:43:28.000And and and it gets it, you know, I like you know, uh y whenever you find yourself talking shit about yourself, whenever you find yourself really down on yourself, or whenever you find yourself really like, you know, like thinking the things that would lead you to killing yourself, that is contact with what I think is a uh for lack of a better word, a demonic entity.
01:43:56.000It it beckons everyone towards self-destruction, it beckons you towards self-destruction.
01:44:39.000What's beautiful is individual there's I don't remember whose the quote was, but there's this one one of those cool looking Indian guru dudes, and he said, uh, enlightenment is possible in this lifetime.
01:44:50.000Yeah, well that's that's an actual that's tantric Buddhism.
01:44:55.000That's a good thing to think of that you can get to a place where you and I don't mean enlightened like better than everybody else, but you're free of all the bullshit.
01:45:05.000You're free of all this self-induced hypnotic gaze on TikTok and Instagram reels and arguments on X and threads and fucking blue sky if you're really gone.
01:45:21.000And you can just be a person and just exist and be in tune with life and with nature and with the people around you, and maybe get out of the city.
01:46:24.000But I do think there's good choices and bad choices for how to run a government based on what I've seen for the bad choices, you know, the results like Portland, where you're like, this is a bad choice.
01:46:36.000Like what you guys are doing is a bad choice, you know, and maybe when you get to a certain number of people and a certain number of mental health issues, you know, like if you try to take over LA right now, you know.
01:46:48.000Imagine if you had to be the mayor of LA today.
01:47:09.000You got a fuckload of insane homeless people on your street, and you gotta figure out how to clean it up, and you've already spent twenty-three billion on it, and no one could figure out where that money went.
01:48:13.000And it's in and all of these things invite you to tend either to the entirety of the garden or a part of the garden that you will never go to.
01:48:21.000And it also requires you to have an opinion publicly on a lot of things.
01:48:27.000If you get involved in a community of people who have opinions publicly on things, you are required to chime in, Duncan.
01:50:21.000My my uh I just had this guy Ragu Marcus on and he was talking about someone on his podcast told him why don't why is it the Ten Commandments and not the Sermon on the Mount?
01:50:32.000If we're gonna put something there, like I think it's Danny Goldman said that if we're gonna put something there, why not put blessed are the meek, blessed are the peacemakers.
01:50:43.000You know, why are we put like if we're good if we're doing Bible shit, let's do sermon on the on the thing.
01:51:04.000It it it definitely is like if you like only because if we're if we're going to sort of look at like the like Christianity as the sort of like uh the the flower growing from that entire um lineage.
01:51:21.000It it does seem like there's just that the idea was that Jesus comes around as a kind of like evolution of these principles, like also as a kind of like god like God is like recognizing like that that the whole flood thing wasn't maybe the best move,
01:51:42.000and there's a you know and it was also a kind of like it it it it it lays out uh a a really revolutionary, I think a really revolutionary way to live in the world, which is meeting violence with nonviolence.
01:52:44.000They want to fight back against the fucking Romans.
01:52:47.000Here's this very charismatic person who can reach into a tomb and pull out dead people and curing people's blindness by spitting in his hand, rubbing mud in his hands and putting it on their fucking eyes, curing lepers.
01:53:19.000You get murdered and murdered in front of everybody.
01:53:22.000It's a beautiful, beautiful thing, and it and it really to me, it's like, God, this is just the medicine for the times, man.
01:53:30.000It's just the medicine for the times because holy shit.
01:53:34.000Like the last is our default mode, Duncan.
01:53:38.000Uh you mean the bangs and the and I think the there's two things that really accentuated it.
01:53:44.000The algorithm for sure, but also the lockdowns.
01:53:47.000I think the lockdown shifted a lot of people.
01:53:50.000I think it broke it broke, I genuinely think they broke a lot of people psychologically.
01:53:55.000And um it made people just a little less uh kind, you know.
01:54:00.000Did you get they got real used to being hostile?
01:54:03.000And that was the other tribal thing, like the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
01:54:06.000And unfortunately, most people were required to get vaccinated because they have jobs and they have to travel or whatever it is, you know, a lot of people reluctantly.
01:54:15.000But you know, it made made us like more tense and more shitty.
01:55:06.000And the division is just like never been wider.
01:55:10.000The division between the right and the left in this country, the division in a lot of ways between black people and white people, and the narratives that you get in the news are just feeding into that over and over and over again.
01:55:23.000And the way people react to things in the news, like the way that lady who got stabbed in Charlotte on the on the train, you know, that lady.
01:55:34.000She escapes the war and just gets randomly stabbed by some guy who had gotten out multiple times, and he had been treated in a rehab center that one of the so find the this the story behind that.
01:55:49.000Because I I want to know, like, there there's some accusations that I don't know if they're necessarily true.
01:55:53.000I don't want to say it, but the the whole thing is this guy had been doing horrible shit and getting out of jail over and over and over again and then he stabbed this lady on the the train.
01:56:04.000And he's one of like countless examples of that happening.
01:56:09.000People who you easily could have rehabilitated or at least kept out of the public zone, keep getting released and doing these fucking things.
01:56:19.000And it's almost like again, if you wanted to destroy society, you would make people terrified.
01:56:26.000You would uh cause massive amounts of crime, and then you would offer a military solution to stabilize it all.
01:56:32.000The two I just had Bishop Ra Robert Barron on my podcast, the Catholic ship on?
01:56:37.000Oh, dude, I had a bishop on, and he's awesome.
01:56:40.000And let me tell you, after I had the bishop on, in my whole career of podcasting, people have never come at me.
01:56:48.000I've had Satanists on, I've had all kinds of just uh Riley Reed.
01:56:54.000You know, I've had all kinds of people on my podcast.
01:58:10.000If so, it's satanic in the sense that it's turning neighbor upon neighbor, brother upon brother, uh son upon father, and it's ga it's scattering all of us, you know.
01:58:24.000It's like what what could be a cohesive human family is being just scattered to the fucking winds.
02:01:32.000There's been significant destruction of mosques in Nigeria, particularly due to Boko Haram insurgency and other violent conflicts.
02:01:39.000Boko Haram actively uh in actively primarily oh, active, excuse me, primarily in northeastern Nigeria has deliberately targeted both mosques and churches during attacks, killing worshippers and destroying places of worship.
02:01:55.000But what does it say about how many mosques the worst competition of all time?
02:02:00.000It says religious buildings destroyed hundreds of religious buildings, including mosques.
02:02:06.000Specific numbers indicate while 17,000 churches were destroyed since 2009.
02:02:11.000The destruction of mosques was also significant with dozens of mosque attacks reported in various incidents by Boko Haram and related groups.
02:02:34.000But it is uh much more pointed in the direction of the Christians.
02:02:38.000Dude, I mean, this g has to give you pause.
02:02:42.000Because like I, you know, any secularist out there, any anti-Christian person out there, and they're there's a surprising amount, a surprising amount, horrified that I talked to this bishop.
02:02:53.000Do you think of it as the in the worst aspects of Christianity that you see, right?
02:02:57.000Just like you think of Antifa as the worst aspects of being a progressive or a liberal.
02:03:03.000When you look at what Christianity is in America, it's a lot of things that are awesome, but it's also televangelists.
02:03:10.000It's these motherfuckers on TV talking to poor dumb people and conning them into sending twenty dollars so that their bills are gonna be paid.
02:03:38.000Give me ten thousand, I will bring you a hundred thousand.
02:03:42.000But you the the problem, and listen, I get it, man.
02:03:44.000People are dumb and they fall for it, and then they think that this fucking guy who has this giant megachurch, these people that have they've got stadiums filled with their worshippers, they're flying around in private jets driving in Rolls Royce.
02:03:56.000They think of that as Christianity too.
02:03:57.000And then they think of the nutty people that believe in demons.
02:04:08.000But that to this is there's a there's a a scientific approach here that you could take, which is go go to I can't believe I'm about to say this, go to a Catholic mass, and and the last what's interesting is all the masses are the same around the planet.
02:04:26.000The last one I went to, you know what they were saying?
02:04:47.000Some like, you know, some uh a choir singing, like none of that was happening, and really when you think about the fact that how many Catholic churches there are that day on planet Earth all the people representing all levels of economic status were being told you can do more to help poor people than you're doing right now.
02:06:38.000Because like you're only inviting people to be a priest that are willing to go through that.
02:06:43.000Whereas you meet preachers, and you know, you go to a good church and there's a guy who's a preacher and he's a really charismatic person, he really believes in the Lord and he's good, he's really entertaining, got a wife and a family, tell stories about his family.
02:06:57.000Like that's a lot more normal and engaging and it makes more sense.
02:07:03.000The this this whole celibacy thing is crazy.
02:07:06.000And it didn't it was a rule that somebody instituted because the priests were banging all the ladies.
02:07:14.000They don't look at it as a rule, it's they call it a discipline.
02:07:16.000Uh that's how they officially have to be disciplined.
02:07:19.000Well, I mean, and and that doesn't nuts because for sure that discipline's being taken out on some people that didn't want it, and that's part of the problem.
02:07:26.000But then there's all this messed up, secret babies that nuns have with the city.
02:07:50.000And it's like any time there's hierarchy, anytime there's bureaucracy, anytime there's organization, especially anytime there's uh mysticism, it's gonna be infiltrated.
02:08:12.000Yeah, it would be a good movie if they changed it and like priests is like always wanted to find a wife and have a family before it's too late.
02:08:58.000Like, I don't that part of it to me is always seemed like, you know, how can you this is the other thing, man, with the declining birth rates and people not being able to have kids or not wanting to have kids because it's too fucking expensive.
02:09:54.000You don't want to be around that, and all the other things that go around along with being married and having kids and all the heights and lows and all the shit you learn about yourself.
02:10:03.000You d I do feel like you're by not letting them have families, you're kind of keeping them out of this part of the like human experience that that is really good for people.
02:11:42.000Is that we allow those places to exist while we think about things that are just bananas.
02:11:49.000Think about like wealth extraction and pulling stuff out of the ocean and figuring out how to do this and that and spending all this money on this and that and defense and this and that and then completely ignoring the people on your timeline that are in life or death struggle through no fault of their own.
02:12:09.000They were just born into the wrong family in the wrong neighborhood in the wrong timeline.
02:12:26.000And if we allow that to continue to happen, you're always gonna have the same kind of problems over and over and over again.
02:12:35.000There's gotta be a way to at least tilt that in a positive direction and build on it and actually have businesses that are financially incentivized for success.
02:13:06.000There's gotta be a way people exit like that place that I was telling you about in Oakland, that video, where they're driving through the shanty towns, and then immediately they get to this totally clean environment that's you know run by different politicians.
02:13:18.000That this it's there's gotta be a way to do that.
02:13:21.000There's gotta be a way to engineer our society in a more positive direction.
02:14:47.000It's the federal government's got us all hypnotized into thinking we need them to do these things.
02:14:54.000And I would, by the way, that'd be great.
02:14:56.000I think people living next to an open-air drug Market slash mental asylum would be quite pleased if the taxes that they were paying went towards getting these people medical care somewhere far away from their apartment.
02:15:35.000This is nobody, this is like you'll never this guy's not filming themselves, taking fucking selfies telling the stupid story at the time he gave up sandwiches someone with his kid like I did in the beginning.
02:15:45.000This is just people out there, they interview this guy.
02:15:47.000Why what are you why are you doing this?
02:15:49.000And he's like, I mean, it just seems like that's what you're supposed to do.
02:16:02.000If you got more of that in your your algorithm, you'd realize, like, oh, there's good people out there still.
02:16:07.000And I'm one of them, and you can help.
02:16:09.000Like, and you don't have to film it, you don't have to do it for any reason.
02:16:12.000And dude, the moment we don't even know what would happen.
02:16:17.000If under the yoke of whatever the regime happens to be, it's instead of flapping our fucking like uh fireworks in front of ice, you know.
02:16:31.000If like all of us were just going out there and like, I don't know, I don't know.
02:16:35.000I can bear I I suck at all most things, dudes, but it's like it's not that hard to like give water to people out there, and and yeah, some of them are fucking terrifying.
02:16:44.000They seem like they're possessed by demons.
02:16:46.000I'm surprised you don't believe in demons.
02:16:48.000But but uh but you know what's not that I don't.
02:16:55.000Uh I'm agnostic on the possibility of demons.
02:16:58.000I definitely believe in good and evil though.
02:17:00.000I believe there's uh I believe evil thoughts can get into people's minds, and then if you follow that down a long life, you can get to a pretty evil place.
02:17:16.000And I think, especially if you're involved in evil acts.
02:17:19.000So say imagine you start off in some sort of military, and uh you're in a foreign country and you're killing a bunch of people, and then you take over a town, and then you know, things escalate, and you continue your career doing horrible things for decade after decade, and then you start to get into power, and then you get into political power, and then you start running the country, and then you overthrow the government.
02:17:41.000Yeah, and then you become a dictator, and then you do horrible shit.
02:18:16.000He's uh and he's a super fucking cool guy.
02:18:19.000Anyway, he said, you know, he went to those palaces because he was a seal and he was in the war, and he went to those palaces and says, You can feel the evil.
02:19:51.000I mean, they would they would light people on fire and use them as catapults to light houses on fire.
02:19:58.000So they'd put them in catapults and launched corpses, flaming corpses, and they would land on these thatched roofs and start the houses on fire.
02:20:09.000They would take people and they would kidnap them, right?
02:20:13.000So they would sack a town and they'd take all the people, and everybody that gave in and surrendered, they would put them at the front of the line, and then they would start attacking the city, and all the people would just get crushed by the enemy.
02:20:24.000So by the time they just pushed them forward.
02:20:27.000So they would get thousands of people in front of them and push them into a city.
02:20:30.000And those people are just getting hacked apart.
02:20:33.000Because there's there's people that are trying to stop the siege, and those are the people that are getting killed.
02:21:14.000It's but it's from like the the Do you know that the what they know about the Mongols came from like one diary that they found in like the eighteen hundreds?
02:21:24.000Like there was so little known about Genghis Khan.
02:21:30.000They kill he they killed the people that took him to there so that they couldn't tell, and then more people came and killed the people that killed the people.
02:22:54.000Imagine if that's how you justify just wholesale slaughter of everybody in a city and stacking the bones up.
02:23:02.000Stacking the bones up so high that the Shah of Charisma sent uh an envoy to go and talk to uh whoever was running Jin China and along the way they thought they saw uh a a fr like a snow capped mountain and as they got closer they realized it was a stack of bones.
02:24:02.000And that what's you know what's interesting is people I think like aro around the world, regardless of the culture that you're raised in, we all have a similar sense of evil versus good.
02:25:20.000Like they they did a lot of sneaky shit.
02:25:22.000Like they led people, they had like small packs that would lead people into the mountains, and then they would have a giant pack of people waiting for 'em, and then just fucking come down off the hills and engulf them.
02:25:59.000And it would be really problematic because it involves a lot of rape.
02:26:03.000There's a lot of rape and a lot of horrible, horrible murders.
02:26:07.000And one of the one of the things they did was they're they had some rule where like with kings and emperors, they weren't allowed to let like chop them up, so they would kill them in different ways instead of like attacking them with swords or whatever they would do.
02:26:20.000They would do that, or sometimes they would just stack their bodies and then build uh like a a floor above them and eat on top of them until they crushed them to death.
02:26:32.000So they would build a platform over their bodies, just crushed them with the weight of these timbers.
02:26:37.000These people would be moaning while they were eating.
02:27:23.000And the story of Genghis Khan, his name was Temu Jin.
02:27:26.000He started off as a young boy and he had a brother that was a cocksucker, and his brother was like stealing his fish and beating his ass, and one day he killed his brother.
02:27:34.000And his mother freaked out and said, You motherfucker, you devil, you know.
02:28:40.000Um but anyway, this dude was seeing like whether or not they could sack gin.
02:28:44.000You know, they were going to visit to see like, let's take a look and see what their defenses are like, and we'll bring some fucking carpets and some nice stuff and give them a little gift and then come back and fuck them up.
02:29:35.000So from 1077 to 1231, first is vassals of the S how do you say that word?
02:29:40.000Seljuk Empire and the Quara Kei Western Lal Dynasty from circa eleven ninety as independent rulers up until the Mongolian conquest in twelve nineteen to twelve twenty-one.
02:30:27.000They were talking, having conversations, sipping tea, having fun with their boys.
02:30:33.000Never thinking like, you know, at some point people are gonna be staring at the ruins of our temples, scratching their chins, wondering what this means.
02:30:42.000Dude, that to me is another unifying thought planetary unification.
02:30:50.000It's like, man, you guys, nobody to this day knows who built those fucking pyramids.
02:31:24.000You should also I didn't want to do it that way.
02:31:26.000Uh if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it for a quite a few days, and I'm gonna do it with like an expert, like a Ben of you know, from Uncharted X. Right.
02:31:36.000Like one of those dudes, or Graham, if Graham has the time.
02:31:39.000I know he's very busy, but he goes there all the time.
02:32:04.000He said they're greater than the pyramids, the structure underneath some of the pyramids.
02:32:10.000Greater than the pyramids, and through this ground penetrating radar, they've found a 40 meter long metallic tic-tac-shaped object that is in this great hall that's under the ground.
02:32:25.000So all this stuff exists, but they they made a dam on the Nile River in the 1960s to help agriculture, and it changed the water table and it flooded all these underground labyrinths.
02:32:41.000So they would have it's like a massive undertaking to try to excavate and figure out what's in there.
02:32:46.000But couldn't you put a drone like a water?
02:32:49.000You have to actually go through the water and then below that to where the labyrinth's dig through the mud.
02:32:54.000They might actually be able to channel underneath it, they think and go below the water table and then go to it because it's appears like the water is not in the labyrinth itself.
02:33:55.000But the same technology they've the of they've observed all of the different like where they know where there's special chambers that are sealed off.
02:35:38.000First of all, it's important to note that one thing that titillates my dumbass is it just so happens the government shutdown coincides with when we could use the satellites on Mars to get pictures of that fucking thing.
02:36:38.000Because that wow signal, what it was like seventy seconds long?
02:36:41.000Some very strange coded signal that was 70 seconds long.
02:36:45.000You know what else is weird is Jeremy Corbell said a bunch of people are gonna start saying there's a mothership coming to Earth and don't believe them.
02:37:04.000How do you know that it's not really a mothership?
02:37:06.000How do you know they're gonna say it's a mothership?
02:37:07.000Well, Corbell, he's gotta do this tightrope walk because somehow he does have inside contacts, but he if he says too much, he he puts his whole life in danger.
02:37:43.000Do you know what Do you know that story about how when he was uh George Bush, the original Herbert Walker, he wanted to disclose.
02:37:52.000And what they were going to say was we have recovered crashed UFOs that we have back engineered and we have biological entities.
02:37:59.000There are things that are not of this world.
02:38:02.000And they're far more intelligent than us.
02:38:07.000And I wanted you, I want you to write down on the positives and the negatives of society, like the societal impact of disclosure, and give a numerical value to what is going to do the financial world, what is going to do the religious world, what's going to do to government.
02:38:21.000And at the end, they all had the same conclusion.
02:38:24.000The cons far outweighed the pros in terms of disruption of society.
02:40:06.000And it's funny because we became friends really uh talking on the phone when you were the guy taking the phone calls for availability at the comedy store.