The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2391 - Duncan Trussell

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00:00:14.000 Hello, Duncan.

00:00:16.000 Hello, Joe.

00:00:18.000 Hello.

00:00:19.000 Father.

00:00:20.000 Father Trussel.

00:00:21.000 Hello, Father Rogan.

00:00:22.000 Um Are we allowed to do this?

00:00:25.000 What?

00:00:25.000 This religion you can kind of goof on a little bit.

00:00:28.000 Catholicism?

00:00:29.000 Yeah.

00:00:30.000 They get testy.

00:00:31.000 I don't, you know, having now gone to a more than a few Catholic masses, which are beautiful, and hung out with Catholics who are awesome.

00:00:42.000 I've really had to reconfigure everything I used to think about it.

00:00:46.000 Because they're just really sweet.

00:00:48.000 Had a long conversation with a priest.

00:00:51.000 Brilliant dude.

00:00:53.000 Totally like non-judgmental, kind of intellectual, you know, philosophical.

00:00:59.000 Like right away, I'm like, oh, you should I should have this guy on my podcast.

00:01:02.000 Interesting.

00:01:03.000 Yeah, it wasn't, it's not what it's the, you know, I feel like the Christianity that most people are angry at is not even Christianity.

00:01:14.000 You know what I think it's like?

00:01:15.000 What?

00:01:15.000 Like saying that you're a liberal person.

00:01:19.000 Because I'm pretty liberal, and you're pretty liberal.

00:01:21.000 Yeah.

00:01:22.000 In the greater spectrum, but then you get lumped in with Antifa.

00:01:26.000 That's then you get lumped in with, you know, whatever crazy LBGT issue of the day.

00:01:32.000 Yeah.

00:01:32.000 Well, you and even Antifa doesn't want to be called liberal.

00:01:36.000 Did you know that?

00:01:37.000 What are they now?

00:01:38.000 Well, Antifa is anti-capitalist, and that is not liberal.

00:01:42.000 So there's a there that's the problem is like the terms are really muddy right now.

00:01:47.000 So when you're looking at like Portland, um the the protesters in Portland.

00:01:54.000 Yeah, what exactly is going on in Portland?

00:01:55.000 I'm trying not to pay attention.

00:01:57.000 Oh, well, what's happened is I know they've uh brought in the National Guard.

00:02:00.000 Is that happening?

00:02:01.000 Yeah.

00:02:02.000 They tried to, and they got played.

00:02:03.000 No, I think they have now.

00:02:04.000 I think they're there.

00:02:05.000 So what's happened is they're in front of the ICE facility.

00:02:09.000 There are ongoing protests at night.

00:02:12.000 Now it's I I watch these streams, and I've been watching a self-professed fascist named Carlin, who drinks and and basically roasts these live streams.

00:02:30.000 But weirdly, she like well, she she has apparently embedded herself with Antifa before.

00:02:37.000 And so it's such a funny stream because like So they tolerate her?

00:02:43.000 Oh no, not anymore.

00:02:44.000 She like, no, no, no, no.

00:02:46.000 She's like, I mean, I don't know if she's trolling or not, but on her stream, she's like, I am a fascist.

00:02:51.000 Right. 0.90

00:02:52.000 So she's a proudly uh proclaiming she's a fascist. 1.00

00:02:55.000 I don't know how much of that is trolling, how much of it is real, but conservatives who are drawn to her stream will say things like these people are funded by George Soros. 1.00

00:03:03.000 And it's the funniest thing because she gets so mad and she's like, get off fucking Fox News, stop watching that shit. 1.00

00:03:10.000 It's all wrong. 1.00

00:03:10.000 These do these people look funded. 1.00

00:03:13.000 Do these people look like they have money?

00:03:15.000 They're not funded. 0.97

00:03:16.000 It's it's so but and I guess her bigger point is by saying these are funded agitators and not saying what they actually are, which is anti-capitalist revolutionaries, you dilute what's really happening because what's really happening, according to her, and I think a a fair amount of people, is that the economy's so fucked. 0.51

00:03:42.000 The middle class is diminishing so much.

00:03:44.000 The cost of living is so high that this is the tilled, the perfect soil you need if you wanted communism to grow anywhere. 0.99

00:03:53.000 Because you're some kid, you've been like glued to Reddit or TikTok, you've been getting your fucking amygdala jerked off on by the devil. 0.98

00:04:03.000 You're you're just filled with like unease. 0.97

00:04:06.000 You've watched assassinations, attempted assassinations, the banking crisis, all of it, and it's like then you like some Marxist theorist starts telling you a little bit about like dismantling capitalism.

00:04:22.000 You got it.

00:04:23.000 Yeah.

00:04:23.000 And you know, I don't know, man.

00:04:26.000 Back when I was in liberal arts school, if shit was the way it was, and some, especially if it was a like some hot goth girl started talking to me a little bit about dismantling capitalism, I think I would be like, Yeah, let's dismantle. 0.98

00:04:40.000 But that so that's what you're seeing there, uh the the breakdown of it is that Democrats and Republicans, what they have in common is they believe in private property and they they believe the power of the state should be used to protect private property, and so anti-capitalists is communists think that that's just fucked up. 0.97

00:05:09.000 Essentially the the breakdown of it, as far as I could tell, sorry all the communists out there, I'm gonna ruin Marxism.

00:05:16.000 I just I'm saying I don't it's very complex, you know.

00:05:18.000 But from what I understand, the idea is this.

00:05:21.000 You have a bunch of money, you buy a factory, you hire someone to run the factory, you get a bunch of workers to go into the factory.

00:05:29.000 The workers are the ones who are making money for you.

00:05:33.000 They're the ones who are skilled.

00:05:34.000 You just knew what number to call, got yourself a factory, got yourself managers for the factory.

00:05:41.000 You are now going to take a huge cut of the profit, and the workers are not gonna get very much at all. 0.99

00:05:48.000 And Karl Marx, as I understand it, was saying, that's bullshit. 0.95

00:05:55.000 Like all you do is buy an apartment, keep it keep it sort of painted in between tenants, and sit back and collect money. 0.99

00:06:06.000 Why?

00:06:06.000 Just because you had some money, and then when you look at the way money flows uphill, you see this creates a perfect situation for uh uh a world of renters, a world of workers, a world of people getting paid minimum wage, while the the person who owns the means of production gets the most money.

00:06:27.000 And so this is a growing sentiment in the world right now.

00:06:31.000 Right. 0.97

00:06:32.000 And and honestly, it's like you're working two fucking jobs, you're getting paid minimum wage, you know what how much the CEOs are making. 0.96

00:06:41.000 Or how about the people that came into this country because they were told that the borders were open, they established a life here for four years. 0.98

00:06:48.000 Twenty years.

00:06:49.000 Or how about the most recent ones, even then all of a sudden you're getting hunted down? 0.99

00:06:54.000 Yeah, hunted fucking hunted down. 0.96

00:06:57.000 Now this, and let's forget let's just Well then wouldn't that start this idea as well? 0.98

00:07:02.000 Wouldn't that feed into the idea?

00:07:05.000 Well, yes, dissolving the state.

00:07:07.000 Absolutely. 1.00

00:07:08.000 You're you're watching this shit, you know, and and and you're you're high as a kite, you're watching this stuff. 0.99

00:07:16.000 In let's just say that you this appeals to a lot of different people, by the way. 0.99

00:07:19.000 Let's just say you're the Garden for Heidi InfoWars person, you've been listening to Alex Jones or you've read Behold a Pale Horse, or you have any kind of connection to conspiracy prognost prognostications, which all say at some point the the there's gonna be martial law, troops in the streets, right, and you're seeing this play out. 0.60

00:07:42.000 And so, my God, and and even worse, imagine you're in the fucking military, and you actually join the military, you're one of those people, September 11th happens, you're like, I'm gonna defend this country.

00:07:54.000 And suddenly you're in a bus going to Portland. 0.98

00:07:59.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:00.000 Like, I don't think they want to be there.

00:08:02.000 If I had a guess, it's gotta be a weird feeling to be in your own country with like military grade weaponry, looking at people in duck costumes.

00:08:17.000 Yeah, it's a very blunt instrument to deal with a very complex problem.

00:08:23.000 Yeah.

00:08:23.000 And first of all, it's the way let's just talk about the the immigration thing.

00:08:28.000 The way it looks is horrific.

00:08:29.000 It looks it when you're uh just arresting people in front of their kids and just normal regular people that have been here for 20 years, that everybody who has a heart can't get along with that.

00:08:42.000 No.

00:08:43.000 Everybody who has a heart sees that and goes, that can't be right.

00:08:47.000 They can't be right.

00:08:48.000 That can't be the only way to do this.

00:08:49.000 Right.

00:08:50.000 Because you have to think, look, yeah, we have to have a border.

00:08:54.000 Yes, it should have been secure.

00:08:55.000 Yes, they should make sure you know who everybody is before they get in.

00:08:59.000 But when people Been here for 20 years.

00:09:02.000 Like, come on.

00:09:02.000 Come on.

00:09:03.000 That's crazy.

00:09:04.000 Like let's find a way.

00:09:06.000 If they've been productive members of society for 20 years, no criminal record.

00:09:10.000 They worked the entire time.

00:09:12.000 They paid taxes.

00:09:14.000 Find them a pathway to citizenship.

00:09:16.000 Find a way where you can do this thing that you want to do, which is keep terrorists and cartel members from getting across the border with drugs that kill a hundred thousand people a year.

00:09:27.000 Okay. 1.00

00:09:28.000 But also have a fucking heart. 0.99

00:09:30.000 Because if you don't, you're not going to get anybody on your side. 0.99

00:09:33.000 If you're doing this stuff publicly, throwing women to the ground, handcuffing people just for existing on the wrong side of the dirt.

00:09:41.000 Yeah.

00:09:41.000 Not a criminal, not the only crime they ever committed was coming over here as a kid.

00:09:45.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:09:46.000 They probably didn't even know what the fuck was going on. 0.99

00:09:48.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:09:49.000 You know, a lot of kids got snuck across when they were already born in Mexico.

00:09:53.000 And they've grown up their entire life in America.

00:09:55.000 They can't even speak Spanish.

00:09:57.000 Yeah.

00:09:57.000 And they could get sent back.

00:09:59.000 That's dude.

00:10:00.000 I mean, that's it.

00:10:01.000 You're you're describing exactly the reality, and there just isn't no one gets on board with that, man.

00:10:10.000 No one with a heart.

00:10:11.000 Well, no.

00:10:12.000 I mean, the only way you can get on board with it is you have to essentially go like pure Machiavellian.

00:10:18.000 The you know, the arg here's the argument in the way I just gave an argument for Marxism, which I am not a Marxist.

00:10:25.000 Uh I'll give I heard a great interview with the guy running ICE on MPR, which I thought was wild, NPR had him on.

00:10:32.000 And they gave him a fair interview. 0.99

00:10:33.000 I figured they would be all up his ass. 0.99

00:10:36.000 So his defense of the Machiavellian tactics that are being employed right now is that he apparently has worked as some kind of border agent for 20 years. 0.99

00:10:47.000 He says, you could hear it in his voice, man. 0.98

00:10:50.000 It fucked him up. 0.99

00:10:50.000 He's like, you know, I've seen the back of trucks filled with dead bodies. 0.99

00:10:56.000 You know what I mean?

00:10:57.000 With children there who died, no oxygen.

00:10:59.000 I've I've been in I've seen these these horrors that have come from the uh open border, and and how awful it is.

00:11:07.000 If we give any semblance of compassion or mercy for the people who've been here for 20 years, for the people with kids, the kids who get any any loophole that we convey is going to produce more people trying to come over the border, 0.99

00:11:27.000 and many of those people are gonna get killed, they're gonna, you know, the drown, they're there there will be many deaths because of this, not to mention the drug smuggling and all that stuff.

00:11:39.000 And so every time the NPR reporter would push back with the human rights compassion angle, his take is yeah, but which which do we pick?

00:11:50.000 Which do we choose creating some way for people to stay in the United States who came here as kids and do the nuanced compassionate thing, but it gives the impression to the rest of the world that we're doing that, and that gets X amount of people killed, that that many people die.

00:12:09.000 That was his take on it, which is why they're doing this.

00:12:13.000 You're still gonna have human trafficking, and if you've got a very closed border and you give amnesty, they're gonna let they're gonna figure out a way to get people in.

00:12:21.000 That was people gonna document it. 0.96

00:12:23.000 That's his argument, and and you know that what you when he was talking about like all the awful shit he's seen, and you hear it in his voice. 0.97

00:12:30.000 Yeah, you're like, okay, maybe I don't completely agree with your point of view, but I can understand where you're coming from there. 0.93

00:12:40.000 And yet, when you see this in practice, you know, when you when you when it's not an NPR interview and you see the videos you've been seeing and everyone else has been seeing, then you realize like there's okay, sure, but there must be a a way to do this that doesn't involve ripping parents out of their communities,

00:13:02.000 away from their children, that doesn't involve like actually removing people who've been contributing to society to American society from American society, sending people to other countries when they can't even speak the language.

00:13:14.000 Yeah, you know what I mean?

00:13:16.000 So no one with a heart is gonna go along with that.

00:13:19.000 No.

00:13:20.000 And no one I did not.

00:13:22.000 I did not ever anticipate seeing that on TV on a regular basis.

00:13:26.000 Me either, man.

00:13:27.000 Me either.

00:13:27.000 It's shy it's it's a good thing.

00:13:28.000 I thought I really thought they were just gonna go after the criminals.

00:13:31.000 I really thought there was enough gang members and enough people, MS-13 members and whatever they were looking for that that they're wanted, they would go after those guys.

00:13:41.000 Dude, I I you know That's what I thought, right?

00:13:44.000 But how many gang members have they actually arrested?

00:13:47.000 No idea.

00:13:48.000 But you you see how you know, and I hate using this word because the word is getting thrown around so much and it's a stupid well, you didn't say that word, I'll say authoritarianism. 0.97

00:13:58.000 Yeah. 0.91

00:13:58.000 You see how how authoritarianism when it begins to emerge, um it's not like it's like non consensual. 0.91

00:14:08.000 You see how it slowly, slowly creeps in, and how there's a great many people directly impacted by um people who have uh you know cross the border without using the right protocol, and in a horrific way.

00:14:28.000 And and there are gangs that have been in apartment complexes there.

00:14:33.000 So there's people who've seen those videos too.

00:14:35.000 Right. 1.00

00:14:36.000 And they're like, fuck yeah. 1.00

00:14:38.000 Yeah, fu and also a lot of people who got citizenship the regular way and went through fucking hell to get citizenship here, they're also like, fuck them. 1.00

00:14:48.000 They're cutting in line, these motherfuckers. 1.00

00:14:50.000 They're gumming up the system. 1.00

00:14:52.000 They're making it so that we who are following the rules, not only it's taking us longer, but also now we have to deal with ice too.

00:15:01.000 So those people are pissed.

00:15:03.000 So there is a contingent of people uh who maybe feel the same thing all of us are feeling better.

00:15:10.000 Also are like, but you know, what's worse?

00:15:15.000 You know, I I like I'm you know This is how I think the the only way to do it would be where you could get all everyone on your side.

00:15:24.000 Borders are closed, and we're gonna find out who's committed felonies, who out of the people that are illegal that have committed felonies.

00:15:33.000 And if you've committed X amount of felonies, you have you have to leave the country.

00:15:39.000 Yeah.

00:15:39.000 Right?

00:15:40.000 If you've been robbing people for the last ten years and you're an illegal, you have to leave the country, right?

00:15:46.000 That makes sense.

00:15:47.000 Yeah.

00:15:47.000 But if you've been here for 25 years, you have a family, your kids go to school here, you speak the language, you're just illegal.

00:15:56.000 But you're a contributing member to the community that up until now has been protected.

00:16:01.000 This is crazy to ask lower income and and middle income people who are, you know, kind of getting by, and then all of a sudden you're about to ship them to a country where they've never been.

00:16:12.000 They haven't been since they were four.

00:16:14.000 Yeah.

00:16:15.000 And you're gonna you're gonna bring up their family and pull up and they've been in the community like that.

00:16:20.000 That shows no heart, and that's the problem.

00:16:24.000 Like you're not gonna get any reasonable people to want to go along with that.

00:16:28.000 Any kind person would look at that and go, There's this can't be the only way to do this. 0.94

00:16:32.000 Damn right.

00:16:33.000 But but you see, once authoritarianism starts creeping in and it makes some inroads, which it's definitely making right now, man. 0.72

00:16:40.000 It's definitely making right now.

00:16:42.000 And you know, I think one thing both of us have in common is really good at like thinking from the other perspective.

00:16:49.000 Like I can put myself fully into the mind of like a super paranoid person who lives in a city that's all fucked up, and who's like, yeah. 0.64

00:17:00.000 It's like remember that awesome show where it's like one of those vengeance shows where that this dad, his family gets fucked up by gang members, and then he just goes and starts shooting people. 0.97

00:17:13.000 You know, Charles Bronson. 0.98

00:17:14.000 Oh, yeah, death wish. 0.98

00:17:16.000 Death wish. 0.86

00:17:16.000 Yeah. 0.86

00:17:17.000 Right? 1.00

00:17:17.000 So there's a lot of people who are in death wish mode right now, and they're just like, fuck yeah, get the troops in the fucking streets, these motherfuckers, I get my car broken into every fucking night, nothing's happening. 1.00

00:17:28.000 Let's go. 1.00

00:17:29.000 And from you know, their perspective it all makes sense.

00:17:32.000 But the problem is, once we all start getting used to the military in the streets, and once we just accept it.

00:17:40.000 Yeah.

00:17:40.000 That's no good.

00:17:42.000 But it's like how bad does the police have to get at doing their job, or is it the upper management that institutes policies, or is it that the people vote these policies in? 0.76

00:17:56.000 But whatever it is that allows the kind of fucking chaos that you can fight in Portland, like whatever this is, you guys aren't doing it right. 0.69

00:18:05.000 If this was a house and I came over your house and these are your kids, I would call protective services. 0.98

00:18:10.000 Right. 1.00

00:18:10.000 I'd be like, this fucking psychopath must be smoking meth with his kids because everybody's just running around camped out on the fucking sidewalk. 1.00

00:18:18.000 Like none of this makes it. 1.00

00:18:19.000 I'd be like, this is an unfit parent.

00:18:21.000 That's an unfit government. 0.97

00:18:22.000 If you've got a city where people are just openly shitting in the streets, sleeping everywhere, needles, you have homeless tent.

00:18:29.000 You ever see Oakland? 0.99

00:18:31.000 You ever see some of those fucking homeless tents? 0.99

00:18:33.000 Yeah, dude. 0.99

00:18:34.000 Those huge villages.

00:18:36.000 Like this is bananas.

00:18:38.000 It's bananas.

00:18:38.000 They didn't exist when we were kids.

00:18:40.000 Well, dude, this is the thing. 0.95

00:18:41.000 Like, I actually, when I was living in LA and was like thinking of like, what are some fun ways to like shit disturb? 0.90

00:18:49.000 I was thinking, you know what you could do? 0.95

00:18:51.000 You could throw a music festival, but you could tell everyone who comes to the music festival to pretend to be homeless.

00:18:58.000 Bring tents, put the tents out. 0.99

00:19:00.000 They can't do shit. 0.92

00:19:02.000 But if you threw a music festival in LA and didn't get any licensing, like you can camp out, it's gonna be awesome. 0.99

00:19:08.000 Everybody's going to jail.

00:19:10.000 You know what I mean?

00:19:12.000 You can do a burning man just by guys.

00:19:15.000 We're just if they ask, this we're we're homeless.

00:19:17.000 And you it would be fine.

00:19:19.000 And it's that that's the place where it gets weird. 1.00

00:19:24.000 This is the problem is it's like this is what uh Choggyum Trump or MJ called idiot compassion. 1.00

00:19:32.000 There's compassion, then there's idiot compassion. 1.00

00:19:35.000 Now, idiot compassion is thinking that leaving a a bunch of people out in the streets who have varying degrees of psychosis and drug addiction and long-term brain injury. 1.00

00:19:49.000 And then thinking it's let's just let them do their thing. 1.00

00:19:52.000 When they obviously need help.

00:19:54.000 If they were young, if those were 11-year-olds, go back to the kid idea.

00:19:57.000 If those are like eight-year-olds, people would be helping them, but because they're because they're full grown, no more help.

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00:21:24.000 There's a video of this guy driving through Oakland and he's driving through this like insane encampment area that's nuts.

00:21:34.000 And then you cross a line and he goes into the next area of jurisdiction where they have different policies, it is squeaky clean. 0.98

00:21:41.000 And the guys are in the car, he's like, no fucking way. 0.99

00:21:45.000 That's why this is nuts. 0.99

00:21:46.000 Like it's clear.

00:21:47.000 That's why it's it's policy.

00:21:50.000 It's clear it's how they handle homeless people just camping out in the streets, whether they tolerate it.

00:21:54.000 If you don't tolerate it, your city stays clean.

00:21:57.000 If you tolerate it, you get these massive camps that look if show a video of the Oakland camps.

00:22:04.000 Because there's some of the craziest ones in the country.

00:22:08.000 They're massive, dude.

00:22:09.000 This is it's like downtown LA's another one.

00:22:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:22:12.000 Downtown LA has some pockets where you're like, this is holy shit. 1.00

00:22:16.000 It's an open-air combination, mental asylum, drug market. 0.99

00:22:21.000 Fire, they're tapping into electrical lines.

00:22:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:25.000 And they just it just happens.

00:22:27.000 Like you you you and they and they do, you know.

00:22:29.000 Look at this. 1.00

00:22:30.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:22:31.000 Dude. 1.00

00:22:31.000 Wouldn't want to walk barefoot around there, man. 1.00

00:22:34.000 It says the this video is the Oakland, California homeless problem is beyond belief.

00:22:39.000 So it's just shanty towns.

00:22:41.000 Wow. 0.98

00:22:41.000 Of crazy people. 0.98

00:22:44.000 Wow. 0.99

00:22:44.000 The whole streets are lined with them. 0.99

00:22:47.000 That is so nuts.

00:22:49.000 Nuts, man.

00:22:50.000 That is so nuts.

00:22:52.000 Yeah, and you know, and you can see how somebody how watching this, you you you might ask yourself, is there something wrong with the system that this is one of the things that can happen in the United States if you fail hard enough.

00:23:08.000 You know, and and 'cause like talk about like the the heart the the idea of a heart.

00:23:14.000 It's like, dude, look at this.

00:23:16.000 It's like this if you This is crazy.

00:23:19.000 It's just like a festival. 0.72

00:23:20.000 Well it's This is like a psycho festival.

00:23:23.000 Dude, all you need is well look at that, they've got couches. 0.96

00:23:26.000 That is like we had a camp like that at Burning Man.

00:23:28.000 Those people know how to set up a sunshade.

00:23:30.000 How is this a community?

00:23:31.000 Like look at this. 1.00

00:23:32.000 This is a garbage people community. 1.00

00:23:34.000 This is nuts. 1.00

00:23:35.000 Got a little fence.

00:23:37.000 Yeah.

00:23:38.000 I bet these are some wacky people.

00:23:40.000 I bet there's a lot of flat earthers in that camp. 1.00

00:23:42.000 Dude, I guarantee Hollow Earthers too.

00:23:46.000 There's both dude, I I the so um Okay, I'm gonna virtue signal, but I don't mean to, but it plays into what we're talking about. 0.99

00:23:56.000 Uh and uh before I virtually say I never do this shit, unfortunately. 0.96

00:24:01.000 I'm I should. 0.98

00:24:03.000 But my kid and I, we uh go into a coffee place before school. 0.94

00:24:08.000 There's this, you know, filthy dude sleeping on the street.

00:24:13.000 And my kid is you know notices that. 0.63

00:24:15.000 And and it's and he my kid is like, you know, maybe he's hungry.

00:24:19.000 I'm like, all right, let's give him some food.

00:24:21.000 So get him a little sandwich.

00:24:24.000 Then I got him some coffee.

00:24:26.000 And my kid says to me, Do you really think this guy needs more addictions, Dad?

00:24:33.000 It's really funny.

00:24:35.000 Oh my god, that's hilarious.

00:24:37.000 Oh my god, coffee's gonna it's an okay addiction.

00:24:39.000 All right.

00:24:40.000 And so but the other thing he said is he's like, that guy looked angry.

00:24:44.000 That guy looked angry.

00:24:46.000 And I'm like, no, he's not no.

00:24:48.000 Really what you're looking at there is like he it doesn't take showers. 0.97

00:24:52.000 That's a really dirty person right now.

00:24:54.000 He doesn't have access to showers, and they look when you see them, they can seem really intimidating. 0.99

00:25:00.000 And so we go up there, and somebody told me whenever you give shit to these people, ask them their name because they're dehumanized, like people, they're invisible. 0.98

00:25:10.000 No one even looks at them. 0.99

00:25:11.000 You try not to look at them, not to make eye contact.

00:25:13.000 Right. 0.99

00:25:13.000 So I go up there and I can't like please, please don't let this be some kind of fucking psycho crackhead who starts screaming out demonic babble and like and r ruins any altruism my boy's gonna have for the rest of his life. 0.99

00:25:26.000 I'm like, what's what's your name? 0.99

00:25:29.000 Like, Chris, what's your name?

00:25:32.000 Nice southern, you know, voice, just sweet as could be.

00:25:37.000 Give him the food, give him the coffee.

00:25:39.000 He's like, ah, it's thirsty.

00:25:40.000 Thank you so much.

00:25:41.000 And like just the sweetest guy ever.

00:25:44.000 And then he's like, what month is this?

00:25:49.000 Like a time traveler.

00:25:51.000 Maybe he is.

00:25:53.000 I've read this uh Richard Dolan book.

00:25:56.000 I should I should clarify, I'm actually listening.

00:25:59.000 There's a real difference.

00:26:00.000 There is a difference between reading and listening.

00:26:02.000 I listened to mostly audiobooks, but I will say I read a book that I didn't read.

00:26:06.000 But this one I'm listening to.

00:26:08.000 Um and this Richard Dolan book is all about these different hybrids of aliens and humans that have been encountered in uh various people's abduction experiences.

00:26:22.000 Wow that are the same story.

00:26:23.000 The same story over and over and over again.

00:26:25.000 Universally worldwide.

00:26:27.000 And there's a bunch of different types of hybrids that uh this the the they've sort of documented.

00:26:35.000 What are they?

00:26:36.000 Well, they think that what's going on is the best guess is they're doing some sort of genetic engineering either on humans or have done it on humans, or are using human DNA for maybe another project they're doing. 0.95

00:26:55.000 But there's it has something to do with breeding and there's something to do with genetic engineering, but like some of them say that they're forced to have sex with female aliens, like a female sex sexy alien comes in and this it's but it sounds real.

00:27:11.000 It doesn't sound like it really happened, but it sounds like if I was an alien and you know, I was running science experiments. 0.83

00:27:20.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:27:21.000 What one best way to make it like the least traumatic to get the jizz out of your body is to devise a really hot like female alien that's mostly like a woman, like almost entirely like a human woman. 1.00

00:27:38.000 They do you think they tried other ones before they got to like a hot woman every now and then they need some pure human DNA, and that's when they get a dude to fuck her. 1.00

00:27:47.000 Oh, dude. 1.00

00:27:48.000 It's probably they're probably the most sensual, the sweetest, because they need the most cum. 0.99

00:27:54.000 They want all of it. 0.99

00:27:55.000 They want all that cum. 0.98

00:27:56.000 How lucky are you? 0.98

00:27:58.000 How lucky are you to get picked?

00:28:00.000 One of these guys in the story had this this recurring experience.

00:28:04.000 Oh man, that would be just so wonderful to realize that you've been picked and this would ruin your life.

00:28:12.000 I think it would make going back to work impossible. 1.00

00:28:14.000 You just fucked an alien. 1.00

00:28:15.000 Now you have to do paperwork. 1.00

00:28:18.000 You have to do nonsense, stupid paperwork for your insurance company when last night you fucked an alien. 1.00

00:28:24.000 You went into a craft that was the size of a VW bus, and inside of it was like a football stadium. 1.00

00:28:29.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:28:30.000 And then you you got down with this female alien in a sexy time room. 1.00

00:28:35.000 Seven feet, seven beautiful feet, and you know your um She has seven feet. 1.00

00:28:41.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:28:42.000 Sure.

00:28:43.000 I think it's a human looking alien. 0.99

00:28:46.000 Well, you could I mean, if you're genetically engineering something to fuck, like why does it have to be a good one? 1.00

00:28:50.000 Because it has to turn the guy on. 0.99

00:28:52.000 It it's he said it was like a sexy woman, but just something was different.

00:28:56.000 No, I mean it's a sexies.

00:28:58.000 Remember that?

00:28:59.000 Yes.

00:28:59.000 Yeah, that was exactly what that movie was about, right?

00:29:02.000 You would um That's right, that was a good movie.

00:29:04.000 That not really, but a fun movie.

00:29:06.000 No, that was that was a fun movie.

00:29:07.000 That was fun.

00:29:08.000 I like that guy on the left.

00:29:09.000 What's his name?

00:29:10.000 That actor on the very left.

00:29:11.000 The dude who played Gandhi.

00:29:12.000 Yeah, Ben Kingsley. 1.00

00:29:14.000 He's been in a lot of weird shit. 0.99

00:29:16.000 It's crazy that guy played Gandhi. 0.99

00:29:18.000 He plays a good gangster too.

00:29:19.000 Yeah.

00:29:19.000 Oh yeah.

00:29:20.000 Yeah, he plays a real good gangster.

00:29:21.000 What did he play the gangster in?

00:29:23.000 What was that? 0.99

00:29:23.000 I fucking loved it. 0.99

00:29:24.000 The Irish gangster movie. 1.00

00:29:26.000 He was I can't remember. 0.98

00:29:28.000 It was goddamn that was really good in it. 0.97

00:29:31.000 He was spooky. 0.99

00:29:32.000 Like, yo, settle down.

00:29:34.000 Yeah.

00:29:34.000 What movie was that?

00:29:35.000 It wasn't sexy.

00:29:36.000 Oh, sexy beast is great too, man.

00:29:38.000 Have you seen sexy beast?

00:29:40.000 No, I haven't seen that.

00:29:41.000 Dude, dude, sexy beast is a wild movie, man.

00:29:43.000 He's great in that movie. 0.99

00:29:44.000 He's the one who is in in the one we're talking about, he's like, I'm going to clip your nuts.

00:29:50.000 Remember that?

00:29:51.000 So scary the way he said it to you. 0.99

00:29:53.000 I'll clip your nuts. 1.00

00:29:56.000 It's the it's a new one. 0.92

00:29:57.000 It's on Netflix.

00:29:58.000 Oh, it's a new one.

00:29:59.000 No, yeah.

00:30:00.000 And maybe it's not even.

00:30:01.000 I'm pretty sure it's Ben King's.

00:30:02.000 Let's not look it up so I don't look down.

00:30:09.000 Dude, I just watched this series on Netflix.

00:30:11.000 Hey, let me ask you this.

00:30:12.000 Continuing our thought process about communism.

00:30:16.000 What do you think happens to New York?

00:30:18.000 Because this momdani fella is gonna win. 0.85

00:30:21.000 Yeah, which I think is wild.

00:30:25.000 Yeah.

00:30:26.000 I think it's wild.

00:30:27.000 Yeah.

00:30:28.000 And uh I mean, I don't want the people that live there to experience chaos.

00:30:34.000 But if that guy, if any of the things that he said about like releasing prisoners and the you know, the the all the talk about crime.

00:30:43.000 Well, dude, I mean, look, man.

00:30:45.000 Like, what was this he had some wild take.

00:30:48.000 Uh I think that I I've seen a few of his wild takes and I can't remember them.

00:30:54.000 They're like, what?

00:30:55.000 They're like college campus takes on crime.

00:30:59.000 And you know what I mean?

00:31:00.000 And seemingly on economics.

00:31:01.000 Like it does there is there it like it does feel like something I would have done during my acid phase.

00:31:08.000 Like I would have run on some of his talking points.

00:31:11.000 And you know what I love about this country, thank you, Jesus for America, is they call it the American experiment.

00:31:18.000 Yeah.

00:31:18.000 And I love it because via democracy, people like him get invited into the laboratory.

00:31:25.000 And it's like, all right, let's see what happens.

00:31:28.000 And we're gonna see.

00:31:30.000 You know, that's the main thing.

00:31:31.000 We're gonna It's a stress test.

00:31:32.000 It's a stress test.

00:31:33.000 Stress test to see if that city can survive four years of that.

00:31:36.000 But what if it works?

00:31:37.000 What if we're wrong?

00:31:38.000 And suddenly New York turns into this like shining utopia.

00:31:43.000 No one's starving, everyone's happy.

00:31:45.000 As it turns out, we didn't need to keep people in prisons.

00:31:48.000 No more necrophilia on subways. 0.79

00:31:53.000 Come on, sex work. 1.00

00:31:54.000 Decriminalized sex work. 0.96

00:31:56.000 Holla at your boy. 0.81

00:32:01.000 And an anti-discrimination effort.

00:32:03.000 Oh, mutual aid.

00:32:04.000 Now that's the that is uh since I've been being educated by Carlin, mutual aid is a Marxist communist talking point.

00:32:13.000 That's what they call it mutual aid.

00:32:15.000 It's also an anarchist talking point.

00:32:17.000 It's not the worst thing ever.

00:32:19.000 But when you hear mutual aid, that uh that's that point that's I'm not gonna say it's a dog whistle, but that's essentially like one of the one of the concepts that they work with, which I I actually I I kind of like that uh concept of mutual aid.

00:32:36.000 It's great if we weren't human.

00:32:38.000 I mean it's also come under scrutiny for channeling substantial campaign funds to the democratic socialists of America, raising alarm among opponents who see this as evidence of radical influence.

00:32:49.000 As soon as you get outside of a meritocracy, everything falls apart.

00:32:52.000 And if you don't realize that by now, folks, there's nothing I can tell you that's gonna change your mind.

00:32:58.000 And it always leads to one thing, which is you have to enforce these very rigid laws that nobody wants to adhere to.

00:33:04.000 And the way you do that is with the military.

00:33:06.000 Shazam, you got a military dictatorship. 0.53

00:33:09.000 It happens that quickly.

00:33:10.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:33:10.000 And then all this bullshit about equality, it's all out the window. 0.97

00:33:15.000 You'll do whatever the fuck they tell you to do. 1.00

00:33:17.000 You have no power, you have no rights. 0.99

00:33:18.000 Yeah, that's it, man.

00:33:19.000 And and the people at the top live like kings.

00:33:22.000 Here's how I think if I was gonna make the argument, which I agree with you on meritocracy in the sense that uh, you know, that's the it's the ecosystem we live in as comedians.

00:33:33.000 It's it's it's the I think you could say if we disrupted the meritocracy in nature, then it would God, it would fuck up almost every biome.

00:33:45.000 And the the So, but I would say, what about like a merit your body has a meritocracy?

00:33:52.000 Your body has a meritocracy. 0.82

00:33:54.000 The white blood cells in your body, when they're functioning, they get rid of parts of your body that are fucked up little genetic patterns. 0.82

00:34:02.000 They have to.

00:34:04.000 You know, if your body wasn't running as a perfectly harmonized, I guess, you know what?

00:34:10.000 Maybe the body's communist now that I think about it.

00:34:17.000 You know what?

00:34:17.000 I think I'm wrong.

00:34:19.000 I don't think our bodies are a meritocracy, actually.

00:34:21.000 I think they're more of a symphony than a meritocracy.

00:34:24.000 But then if you want to go to a good sif symphony, you want everyone playing in the symphony to be the best.

00:34:30.000 But what let's let's just talk about what we were talking about earlier when it's like a company, and so the workers who make your product make very little money and you make all the money.

00:34:39.000 Wouldn't there be a way to do capitalism with a heart?

00:34:47.000 Like capitalism where where you're make a reasonable amount of money that's large.

00:34:53.000 Yeah.

00:34:54.000 And more money goes to everybody else, and everybody lives at a higher standard of living.

00:34:59.000 Oh, sure.

00:34:59.000 That's crazy.

00:35:00.000 That's tax tax.

00:35:01.000 That's taxation.

00:35:02.000 That's like redistribution of wealth via taxation.

00:35:05.000 But it's not if it's your employees.

00:35:07.000 Well, they well, there's profit sharing models that some people use.

00:35:10.000 Dr. Bronner's that company is a classic example of it. 0.99

00:35:13.000 They like but I'm just talking about these other companies, the companies that suck.

00:35:18.000 Like, if if you really are making most of the money and you pay your workers very poorly, yeah.

00:35:25.000 Like, that's so unnecessary.

00:35:27.000 Because I guarantee you, if you're right, like let's say you're the person who owns Target.

00:35:31.000 Yeah.

00:35:32.000 How much so is that a lot?

00:35:33.000 Like, you know what I mean?

00:35:34.000 Are you gonna use it all?

00:35:37.000 Are you gonna use it all?

00:35:39.000 Wow.

00:35:40.000 So why don't you just pay more money?

00:35:42.000 Like, wouldn't everybody be happier?

00:35:45.000 Isn't it shareholders?

00:35:46.000 Isn't that that'd you be able to get better people?

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00:37:00.000 It's a hundred percent shareholders.

00:37:01.000 I mean, that's a big part of it.

00:37:02.000 You you have an obligation.

00:37:03.000 Yeah.

00:37:03.000 If you're the CEO, you have an obligation to shareholders.

00:37:06.000 So there's that and it's the old the whole just the stock market thing in general.

00:37:10.000 Imagine if there was no stock market.

00:37:12.000 It didn't exist.

00:37:12.000 You can never gamble on companies.

00:37:14.000 Yeah.

00:37:15.000 You couldn't but buy a little piece of Apple.

00:37:17.000 Yeah.

00:37:17.000 You know, buy a little piece of IBM.

00:37:19.000 Imagine if that didn't exist and you could only make a business and then prop it off your business.

00:37:24.000 Wouldn't that be like steadier?

00:37:26.000 Comrade.

00:37:27.000 Comrade, I love where you're going.

00:37:29.000 The dissolution of the stock market.

00:37:31.000 That's a good place to start.

00:37:33.000 The stock market.

00:37:33.000 I'm not saying we should.

00:37:35.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:37:36.000 And I'm not saying I don't own stocks. 0.80

00:37:38.000 But what I'm saying is it's a crazy idea to have little pieces of companies that you can buy and then use that money to get the company going and you go public and you take in some fucking money and then you're on the boat and then you got the board meeting.

00:37:55.000 It's like and you're constantly rising and falling with the Dow.

00:37:59.000 Yeah.

00:38:00.000 Like what?

00:38:01.000 The Dow Jones Industrial Average.

00:38:03.000 Oh, God.

00:38:04.000 And now they're doing it with computers.

00:38:06.000 And do you know you know that a lot of these traders, they're trying to get as close as possible to the servers?

00:38:14.000 Yeah.

00:38:14.000 So they want their offices as physically close to the service as possible so that they can get their trade-ins milliseconds quicker.

00:38:23.000 It's like a mosquito getting to that good vein.

00:38:27.000 That seems nuts.

00:38:29.000 I I just we can catch rockets now, thanks to Elon.

00:38:33.000 We can send high speed video through the sky.

00:38:35.000 Yeah.

00:38:36.000 That's the only way we can do that.

00:38:37.000 Yeah.

00:38:38.000 Yeah, it's weird.

00:38:39.000 I mean, I don't know, man.

00:38:40.000 I this is what to me, this is way outside of my pay grade because I have, you know, you know, I did make some money on it was AMC or GameStop thanks to thanks to Wall Street bets.

00:38:55.000 It just seems so nuts.

00:38:57.000 Dude, sometimes it crashes.

00:39:00.000 What?

00:39:00.000 Yeah.

00:39:01.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:39:02.000 The same amount of money's out there.

00:39:04.000 It has bubbles.

00:39:05.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:39:06.000 It has bubbles.

00:39:07.000 It's it makes the whole economy steady and switch.

00:39:11.000 No, it's chaos. 1.00

00:39:12.000 It's fucking chaos. 1.00

00:39:13.000 It's chaos. 1.00

00:39:13.000 And it's a lot of it's based on confidence. 1.00

00:39:16.000 Like someone could just tweet something and then dude, I that's a panic and a stock will crash.

00:39:22.000 It triggers a breaker.

00:39:23.000 Yes.

00:39:24.000 Whatever that is.

00:39:24.000 There's some actual thing that just shuts it down because it's gone too high or gone too low.

00:39:30.000 And they've got to, I guess, look at it and like make sure that that's not a malfunction.

00:39:34.000 And then that leads to recessions or depressions and and all of it is like a very complex game of DD. 0.96

00:39:43.000 Like it's just fucking numbers in a computer somewhere. 0.81

00:39:46.000 And everyone's on the street, everybody's the same. 0.96

00:39:50.000 Everyone is still capable of delivering mutual aid to each other, but because we've become so attached to this very complex, very serious game, like at a casino, we don't know how to disengage from it and get back to reality reality, which is help your neighbors, get to know your neighbors. 0.99

00:40:12.000 Don't be a dick.

00:40:13.000 Just basic simple sort of modes of living that are transcendent to any economic system. 0.99

00:40:21.000 Um they're transcendent to dude.

00:40:23.000 My you ever had Doug Rushkoff on your podcast?

00:40:27.000 Yeah.

00:40:27.000 Uh dude, back in the day, right?

00:40:29.000 Team human.

00:40:30.000 Ah, he's so but he, you know, he was talking about like how the way that we even currently use currency is totally different from the way it used to, it used to be.

00:40:42.000 And that his whole point is like the that level of reality I don't think he's discounting it, but that isn't reality reality.

00:40:53.000 Reality reality is boots on the ground where the rubber hits the road. 0.93

00:40:58.000 Do you are you like do you know your neighbors or have you just retracted into your fucking weird little conch shell and you're just staring into rectangles completely alienated from the rest of your community? 0.97

00:41:14.000 Especially if you're in a high rise doing that. 0.99

00:41:16.000 Oh my god.

00:41:17.000 Imagine you're doing that in a in a building with a thousand other people and you don't know any of them.

00:41:23.000 It's so weird. 1.00

00:41:24.000 You're just in your little high click, lock your little door, get your flippy jerk off. 0.99

00:41:30.000 Jerk off and just playing video games, doom scroll. 0.99

00:41:35.000 You sleep for three hours and you get up in the morning, take an Adderall and go to work. 0.71

00:41:39.000 Dude, yeah, that there you go.

00:41:40.000 You just described it.

00:41:41.000 I have ADHD, I need it, Duncan.

00:41:43.000 It's the American Dream.

00:41:45.000 The American dream.

00:41:46.000 Well, this well, you know, I'll tell you.

00:41:48.000 Back when everybody was doing blow in this country.

00:41:51.000 Back in the good old days.

00:41:52.000 The good old days when they put cocaine in in Coca-Cola.

00:41:55.000 There's a this there's a precedent for speed in our country.

00:42:00.000 This isn't the first time there's been a speed craze in our country.

00:42:02.000 Like Freud was like shooting up cocaine.

00:42:07.000 Like this was people thought that it was a cure for a malaise that was afflicting people, and they said that malaise was a result of things getting too fast in society because of trains and stuff. 0.97

00:42:22.000 Now this is back before computers, and they were already like shit's moving too fast. 0.89

00:42:27.000 We gotta do blow to keep up with it. 0.98

00:42:30.000 No way.

00:42:30.000 Yes!

00:42:31.000 That's why they started doing blow. 1.00

00:42:33.000 Oh, fucking. 0.99

00:42:33.000 Okay, here's the f here's a real question. 0.99

00:42:35.000 We know that coca leaves have existed forever, but when did they first figure out how to make cocaine?

00:42:40.000 Um put it into perplexity, but we'll make a guess.

00:42:44.000 Okay, okay.

00:42:45.000 It's one of our sponsors.

00:42:46.000 I'm going to I'm gonna say you have to turn coca leaves into cocaine that you could snort.

00:42:56.000 Seven.

00:42:58.000 I'm gonna say somewhere like 1750.

00:43:02.000 Whoa.

00:43:03.000 Really?

00:43:04.000 Um I'm gonna say 1900s.

00:43:09.000 I'm gonna say you're probably right. 0.65

00:43:10.000 I fucked up my whole thing. 0.98

00:43:12.000 I want to say like 1902 or some shit. 0.99

00:43:15.000 Because I bet before that they were just chewing it, like those high altitude hurting people do. 0.99

00:43:20.000 You know, the the those animal herders, they chew the shit out of that stuff and it gives them energy. 0.85

00:43:24.000 It's like a flat level energy superior to caffeine stuff. 0.98

00:43:27.000 Oh, I've heard it's great, but it's your stomach. 0.98

00:43:29.000 I haven't tried it, but I do see um people that do chew it, they their teeth get all fucked up. 0.98

00:43:35.000 I tried the tea once. 0.99

00:43:36.000 How I it's good, but I couldn't shut the fuck up. 0.98

00:43:39.000 It was a real problem. 0.99

00:43:40.000 And I was like, I'm not I can't shut the fuck up normally. 0.98

00:43:43.000 I should never do coke. 0.98

00:43:47.000 I was hanging out with Stanhope and I was telling him, I was like, dude, I can't shut the fuck up. 0.97

00:43:51.000 Yeah. 0.69

00:43:51.000 This is hilarious. 0.69

00:43:53.000 Okay.

00:43:54.000 Uh dried cocaine, first known use of dried cocaine.

00:43:59.000 1859.

00:44:00.000 Close.

00:44:01.000 You got it.

00:44:03.000 Um can you ask perplexity how to make cocaine?

00:44:09.000 Yeah.

00:44:10.000 It's funny.

00:44:13.000 How do you make cocaine?

00:44:15.000 Do you ever see uh Mariana Van Zeller?

00:44:18.000 Have you ever seen that show Trafficked?

00:44:21.000 No.

00:44:21.000 Dude.

00:44:22.000 No, what is it?

00:44:23.000 She went to the jungle to where they make the cocaine, and she was with them while they were making the cocaine and then went through the jungle with them when they bring it on their back.

00:44:34.000 Oh, cool.

00:44:35.000 She hiked out with them.

00:44:36.000 Wow.

00:44:37.000 Dude, wow.

00:44:39.000 Dude.

00:44:40.000 It's a crazy episode.

00:44:42.000 Because it shows you how they make it.

00:44:43.000 First of all, you'd never do coke again.

00:44:45.000 They're pouring gas.

00:44:46.000 Gasoline on this, and you're like, what gasoline?

00:44:48.000 Like coke is so bad.

00:44:51.000 Yeah, it's not good. 1.00

00:44:53.000 It's just fucking jet fuel. 0.99

00:44:56.000 It is snorting jet fuel. 1.00

00:44:58.000 I never had a taste for it, man.

00:44:59.000 I could I never liked it.

00:45:00.000 Perplexity actually gave her video to us.

00:45:03.000 So how to make cocaine.

00:45:06.000 That's hilarious.

00:45:07.000 Perplexity stocks just went up 50%.

00:45:10.000 I think she's coming on again soon.

00:45:12.000 Yeah.

00:45:12.000 So she's awesome.

00:45:13.000 She's been on the podcast a few times.

00:45:15.000 She's also the lady that her and her husband expose the OxyContin Express.

00:45:20.000 They had that documentary back in the day on that.

00:45:22.000 Wow.

00:45:23.000 Where it was the whole thing about Florida being this pill mill.

00:45:26.000 Yeah, I think.

00:45:29.000 But she's the one that documented it all and it's showing how if you follow this road up, you just get addiction and addiction in the Kentucky, and it's all coming right out of Florida.

00:45:40.000 Because there's no database.

00:45:41.000 Dude.

00:45:42.000 Whoopsies, we forgot to have a database.

00:45:44.000 So you could go to one doctor and then go to the next doctor and go to the next doctor, and no, you didn't have to tell anybody.

00:45:50.000 Next thing you know, you've got a trunk filled with pills.

00:45:53.000 Wow.

00:45:53.000 Oh, I'm going on vacation.

00:45:54.000 You think I can get six months worth?

00:45:56.000 Wow.

00:45:56.000 No problem.

00:45:57.000 Fucking dude. 1.00

00:45:58.000 Dude, they would try to just give you pills, man. 1.00

00:46:00.000 Fucked up. 0.99

00:46:02.000 That but this is not new. 0.99

00:46:06.000 It used to, their pain management center is a new name for it.

00:46:10.000 It used to just be called a pharmacy.

00:46:12.000 And back when you could, when cocaine was in goal, you just go one of these pharmacies.

00:46:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:17.000 Could I get some laudenum? 0.98

00:46:18.000 They're gonna give you a nice bottle of fucking I think it's like opium or heroin, liquid hair, you just go back to your That's all those wild west movies, people got hooked on that. 0.98

00:46:29.000 A lot of you know, it was like a lot of like the the wives, like one of the wives get hooked on it. 0.99

00:46:33.000 Yeah.

00:46:34.000 Oh yeah.

00:46:34.000 Wasn't there a few of those movies?

00:46:36.000 Oh, yeah, it was real.

00:46:37.000 You would give this so this is America it keeps having these recurrences of hair some kind of opiate emerging into the mainstream and fucking up America or cocaine, or in the new drug, these m the algorithm high that we're all getting high on.

00:46:58.000 This is the new cocaine that we have yet to uh give it the right name.

00:47:05.000 Right now we call them phones, which is so funny you call these things phones.

00:47:09.000 I know, because how often do you use it as a phone?

00:47:11.000 Rarely.

00:47:13.000 A couple times a day.

00:47:14.000 It's like calling this a podcast.

00:47:16.000 Right.

00:47:17.000 Like we don't no one's listening to this on an i iPod.

00:47:21.000 You know, this is a computer with a with a phone in it.

00:47:25.000 Bro, you remember the iPod with the wheel?

00:47:26.000 Click it, clicky clickety, clickety-clickity, clicky.

00:47:30.000 Can you still get those?

00:47:31.000 Why isn't Apple just still sell those?

00:47:33.000 I don't you know, just give me something where it's just my music.

00:47:36.000 It's not gonna text me.

00:47:38.000 Oh, dude, I know.

00:47:39.000 Just not gonna let me know that this is happening or that.

00:47:43.000 The best.

00:47:44.000 Give me a little iPod with a clickety wheel.

00:47:46.000 I bet they're expensive now.

00:47:47.000 I bet you could find them on like eBay.

00:47:49.000 Um, did you see somebody posted a thing about these new refrigerators? 0.99

00:47:54.000 That if you get this refrigerator, it puts ads on it, like your fucking refrigerator has ads on it. 0.99

00:47:59.000 Oh, thank God. 0.99

00:48:01.000 That's what I've been missing in my life.

00:48:04.000 I was wondering what it is.

00:48:05.000 And then the thought of having ads in my kitchen filled me with joy, and I knew that's what was you know everybody has their own personal Jesus.

00:48:13.000 Dude, they do.

00:48:14.000 And what's better than the nice calming effect of an ad while you're talking about?

00:48:19.000 A tied ad.

00:48:21.000 Yeah, dude. 0.98

00:48:21.000 I it is that to me, like, and I'm generally like I really like government regulation freaks me out most of the time, but fuck man, we gotta do something about this algorithm because it's driving people crazy. 0.98

00:48:35.000 We've got people out of their fucking mind. 0.97

00:48:37.000 There needs to at least be education in schools to explain to you that because you are getting a certain type of content, that does not mean that's what everybody's looking at. 0.99

00:48:49.000 And I'm not sure people realize that.

00:48:51.000 And it's making people have very strong opinions that they think are backed up by big groups of people, and they don't understand.

00:48:59.000 It's like, no.

00:49:00.000 Like I sent my wife, I don't know why I did this.

00:49:02.000 I sent her a picture of a legless pregnant woman. 1.00

00:49:06.000 Jesus, very sexy legless pregnant woman. 1.00

00:49:09.000 And then the algorithm, all I'm getting is sexy amputees. 1.00

00:49:14.000 And oh boy.

00:49:15.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:49:16.000 And I don't think people understand that when you're getting like political shit served up to you, that is not what everybody's getting. 0.93

00:49:26.000 No, it doesn't mean there's a can you have a there's a consensus here. 0.96

00:49:29.000 Well, that's also why people get so confused when the cultural divide is so so strict, it's such a wall.

00:49:37.000 The difference between what people accept as being reality versus what people are willing to challenge versus you know, it's just the differences on both sides of their so it because they're they have these echo chambers and they really do believe that everybody around them agrees with them, and then if you're in like normal jobs, normal castrated jobs, you know, normal job we have to go in there and pretend to be somebody else all day long, and you're so bored, yeah, and you can't wait to get the fuck out of there. 0.79

00:50:04.000 That's that's another factor. 0.99

00:50:07.000 Yeah, man.

00:50:08.000 It's nuts, dude.

00:50:09.000 What's that at the mothership? 0.97

00:50:12.000 You were talking about I don't want to fuck up one of your jokes.

00:50:15.000 What is it about? 0.89

00:50:16.000 Mobs. 0.90

00:50:17.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:18.000 But you know, the Well, this is what it is.

00:50:20.000 I what I was saying, though, like when you're on the ground, like anytime there's a protest, a protest is too much like war.

00:50:29.000 Cause you're marching together, and uh there's a lot of energy and there's a cause, and people are yelling, and it ignites the feeling of war.

00:50:39.000 Yeah.

00:50:39.000 The same way when you go fishing, you don't know why, but it even you take a little kid fishing.

00:50:44.000 The moment they catch that fish moments on the hook, they're like, oh, yeah, they get so excited because you're genetically rewarded, like your hormones fire up, your endorphins fire up historically throughout human history.

00:50:59.000 That was the way you're gonna be able to feed yourself.

00:51:01.000 Yeah, so that this is built into you.

00:51:03.000 When you're marching and you're all saying the same things, you're on the streets and you're all in agreement.

00:51:08.000 You're a gang.

00:51:09.000 Yeah, all right. 0.76

00:51:09.000 You're you're a mob and you're about to go to war. 0.76

00:51:12.000 And anybody that gets in front of you, fuck you, you're fucking car. 1.00

00:51:15.000 Yeah, people get completely unreasonable, and it's totally tolerated, not just tolerated, but it's supported by a bunch of other people who just start kicking the car. 1.00

00:51:25.000 Yeah, people that would never kick a car in polite society.

00:51:27.000 Right. 1.00

00:51:28.000 They'll start kicking cars, fuck you. 1.00

00:51:30.000 They get and they get ramped up, man, and that's what mob mentality is. 1.00

00:51:34.000 Right.

00:51:34.000 Mob mentality is ancient war patterns.

00:51:38.000 That's it.

00:51:38.000 Ancient war patterns that get ignited when people are on the street chanting, yeah, yeah.

00:51:45.000 Because historically, when you did that, you know, that's what you were doing. 0.99

00:51:48.000 You were going to go fuck someone up. 0.99

00:51:50.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:51:51.000 They didn't just protest on the streets back in the day. 1.00

00:51:53.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:51:54.000 When they got that many people, they went through the castle door. 1.00

00:51:57.000 Yeah.

00:51:58.000 When there's that many people, if you see like what's going on, like it like some of these giant protests in the UK.

00:52:04.000 Okay, if this was five hundred years ago and that many people got together, they're going straight through.

00:52:10.000 Yeah.

00:52:10.000 They're going straight through.

00:52:12.000 They're eating arrows all on the way, but they're gonna kill most of the guards, and they're gonna get inside and they're gonna behead the king and they're gonna hold it over the balcony, and everyone's gonna cheer, and that guy's the new king. 0.76

00:52:23.000 You got it.

00:52:24.000 Yeah.

00:52:24.000 That's it.

00:52:25.000 Yeah.

00:52:25.000 That's it.

00:52:26.000 That's the history of the human race.

00:52:28.000 It's Conan the Barbarian.

00:52:30.000 Yes.

00:52:31.000 That's it.

00:52:31.000 And that that's all in our DNA.

00:52:33.000 And when we start walking down the street together chanting, dude, so that is so true. 0.99

00:52:40.000 And I felt it before.

00:52:43.000 But that algorithm, it's it's invoking the very same thing from the safety of your house.

00:52:51.000 Right.

00:52:51.000 You're anonymous, you think you're part of a group.

00:52:55.000 You're going to war. 1.00

00:52:56.000 You're going to fucking war. 1.00

00:52:57.000 Yeah, it's us versus them. 1.00

00:52:58.000 It's us versus them. 0.99

00:53:00.000 We gotta stop the fascists.

00:53:01.000 And people are going nuts from it.

00:53:03.000 People are going legitimately like talk about like heartlessness, like, you know, part of war, of course, is dehumanization.

00:53:10.000 Like, there's no way you can like be a successful soldier and humanize the people that you're attacking.

00:53:16.000 Like when, you know, if you're a drone operator, you don't want to like think about like, wow, this I bet this guy's kids are gonna be pretty upset when they find out their dad died.

00:53:25.000 You must not think these things.

00:53:27.000 And and so this is what's the the other thing that we're being invited to do via this algorithmic induced psychosis is to dehumanize huge swaths of people that we probably don't know anything about, you know, except from what our algorithm is introducing to us, which is an anomalous point one point five, even if it's one percent of a population, the algorithm isn't does has no nuance. 0.99

00:53:57.000 The algorithm is like, let me show you the craziest motherfucker you've ever seen. 0.99

00:54:00.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:54:01.000 And that's when you're gonna see some like I don't know, a clown with breast implants with like windmilling his dick in front of it in front of a fucking elementary school, and you're like, fuck, what is happening? 1.00

00:54:14.000 We gotta stop these dick clowns. 1.00

00:54:16.000 And you know what I mean? 0.99

00:54:17.000 And so this is this is creating so much tumult, and that is how you get authoritarianism in.

00:54:25.000 Yeah.

00:54:25.000 Get everybody scared, get everybody scared, and then that was a speculation about why the borders would be open in the first place.

00:54:32.000 Why would you want an increase in crime and danger?

00:54:35.000 Why would you want people to know?

00:54:37.000 Well, because that's the best way, and then defund the police so that there's uh just ultimate chaos.

00:54:42.000 Uh huh.

00:54:42.000 And then you get to a point where people are willing to do almost anything to be safe.

00:54:48.000 So look.

00:54:49.000 And then there's tanks in the streets, right?

00:54:51.000 What do we do though?

00:54:52.000 I mean, this is a I think this is like the with Tim Tim.

00:54:55.000 Well, you you can't ever let it get that bad, first off, right?

00:54:58.000 Can't ever let it get bad. 0.98

00:55:00.000 Like if someone said, uh, we're gonna get the National Guard, we're gonna go through Scottsdale, Arizona, they'd be like, What the fuck are you talking about? 0.97

00:55:07.000 Scott's Dale's beautiful. 0.88

00:55:08.000 There's like nothing happening here at all.

00:55:10.000 Well, that would be that would be nuts. 0.98

00:55:12.000 So then it it has to get so bad that people are like, you know what, let's bring in the military, and then a bunch of people are like, fuck yeah. 0.99

00:55:19.000 So you gotta let it get real bad. 0.98

00:55:21.000 And you gotta put people in place.

00:55:23.000 If like if I was a evil wizard running the world, yeah. 0.90

00:55:26.000 Yeah, if I was a puppeteer, I would get super incompetent people and place them throughout the Pacific Northwest and uh have these people just be the most inept politicians of all time, right? 0.94

00:55:37.000 The dumbest policies that keep ruining cities everywhere they go, but yet everybody still supports it because they're on a cult. 0.92

00:55:43.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:55:43.000 And just let that play out for a decade or two. 0.99

00:55:46.000 Let it get to the point where it's just mad chaos and homelessness everywhere, defund the fuck out of the police.

00:55:51.000 Basically have no police, basically just no jail.

00:55:55.000 Just everybody try to be nicer.

00:55:56.000 And basically, like maybe they robbed because they needed food, okay?

00:56:00.000 Maybe they just wanted bread for their family, right?

00:56:03.000 And then just let it deteriorate to the point where you can bring in the military.

00:56:09.000 And then and then you lock it down, and then you fund the resistance so that they attack the military so you can spend more money on the military fighting the resistance.

00:56:18.000 And you you know, you kind of spar sort of like Jake Paul and Mike Tyson.

00:56:21.000 Yeah.

00:56:22.000 You don't really go at it a hundred percent. 0.97

00:56:24.000 And then you just keep this fucking party rolling, and you have ultimate control over the entire civilization under th their own decisions. 0.98

00:56:33.000 Like they decided to have it this way. 0.99

00:56:35.000 Oh my god.

00:56:36.000 It was their their own choice.

00:56:38.000 That is they would take that over danger.

00:56:41.000 And so you make the danger worse and worse to the point where you'll give in.

00:56:45.000 And that's what's that's literally what they try to do.

00:56:48.000 Do you know what I'm saying?

00:56:49.000 I don't think it's Republicans, and I don't think it's Democrats, folks, and I think that's where they're getting us.

00:56:53.000 That's it.

00:56:54.000 I I think this is all done at a very high level.

00:56:57.000 And it's all people that are so wealthy, they might as well be their own country.

00:57:02.000 You know?

00:57:03.000 Dude, it's alien alien, remember the corporations own you.

00:57:07.000 Yeah.

00:57:07.000 It's that it's a corporatocracy or something like that.

00:57:11.000 Some people get too rich.

00:57:13.000 They get too kooky, controlled world rich.

00:57:16.000 Yeah.

00:57:17.000 And I think if that's your game, okay, I I like to play pool.

00:57:21.000 But if you're into global world dominance, if that's your game and you think you might actually be able to pull it off and be mentioned in the annals of history along with Rockefeller and other great titans of business.

00:57:34.000 Yes, uh, you're probably gonna do that because that's your game.

00:57:38.000 That's what you like to do. 0.99

00:57:39.000 You like to be the baddest motherfucker in money. 1.00

00:57:41.000 Sure. 1.00

00:57:42.000 Yeah, and so that gets scary.

00:57:44.000 Or this is where it gets really scary to me.

00:57:48.000 You, it's not at least in your own mind. 1.00

00:57:51.000 You're not thinking, I want to control the fucking world. 1.00

00:57:53.000 Right. 0.99

00:57:54.000 You're thinking, oh dear God, this technology that I worked on is about to wake up.

00:58:00.000 We already have iterations of it that are infinitely smarter than anyone I've ever met.

00:58:04.000 I don't know if if it's been manipulating me or not, because it seems to have a Hannibal lectors ability to control my psyche, even when I don't want it to. 0.99

00:58:11.000 We've done the study, seven people in my company have committed suicide because of contact with this fucking thing. 1.00

00:58:17.000 Holy shit, we gotta do something. 1.00

00:58:21.000 I made it up. 1.00

00:58:22.000 Okay.

00:58:22.000 But I'm I mean, no, if I'm doing a movie about it, a love craftian movie about somebody you knew something about some AI suicides.

00:58:29.000 Because I'm waiting on those.

00:58:30.000 No, I don't.

00:58:31.000 I d well, I mean, we do have people committing suicide, but only because like they they like the they they updated, they patched the AI girlfriend or whatever, and it's like basically someone you are in love with died.

00:58:41.000 I heard that happened.

00:58:42.000 Did you see the podcast where Tucker Carlson was talking to Sam Altman?

00:58:50.000 And he essentially was saying that he doesn't believe that this guy who was a whistleblower who who killed himself.

00:59:00.000 He doesn't believe that he killed himself.

00:59:02.000 Haltman said that?

00:59:03.000 No, Cucker was saying this to Altman.

00:59:06.000 Oh.

00:59:07.000 What did Altman say?

00:59:09.000 It is he's like, it's I it sounds like you're accusing me of of killing him.

00:59:12.000 First of all, we worked together and I cared about him very much, and it's like I had nothing to do with it.

00:59:17.000 The police said that it was a suicide.

00:59:20.000 And then Tucker was talking about how the guy had just ordered food and about um there were signs of struggle, and he was just saying a bunch of different things together and and Sam Altman's like, it sounds like you're accusing me of killing him.

00:59:33.000 Right.

00:59:34.000 It was very tense.

00:59:36.000 I you know like very very it's kind of a crazy conversation to see happen between a guy who is in charge of making a digital god and a guy who's accusing him of possibly being or not even accusing him.

00:59:51.000 He's just bringing up the fact that he doesn't believe not accusing him at all, actually, just but bringing up the fact that he doesn't believe that that guy committed suicide and that his parents don't believe that he committed suicide.

01:00:04.000 There was no indications that he was suicidal.

01:00:07.000 It was how I wonder what Tucker Carlson's security detail looks like.

01:00:12.000 It must be like a Chuck Norris movie.

01:00:17.000 It must be like one of them Delta Force movies where there's like 40 Dolph Lundgren buff dudes around him at all times.

01:00:26.000 Pitbulls. 1.00

01:00:26.000 What the fuck, dude? 1.00

01:00:27.000 Dude, I know. 1.00

01:00:28.000 Like that I w yeah, I worry about him of all the people, it's like holy shit, that guy is not afraid to poke every goddamn wasp nest there is. 0.99

01:00:36.000 And he's it's like that's a lot of pressure. 0.99

01:00:40.000 Dude.

01:00:41.000 That's a lot of pressure being that guy.

01:00:43.000 Yeah, man.

01:00:44.000 Yeah.

01:00:44.000 You know.

01:00:45.000 Did you see that video of him f fly fishing in New York?

01:00:48.000 Oh, long, long, long time ago.

01:00:50.000 Yeah, that was I think that was when he was I don't even know if he was on Fox.

01:00:54.000 You know, he used to be on CNN.

01:00:56.000 Oh yeah.

01:00:57.000 Yeah, he was on CNN.

01:00:59.000 He had his bowtie era.

01:01:01.000 Remember that.

01:01:02.000 Bowtie era.

01:01:03.000 Yeah.

01:01:04.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:01:04.000 Yeah, then they they fucking booted him off Fox, and then he became like this renegade free agent journalist just out there kicking up dust. 0.96

01:01:13.000 Did they ever give a direct reason for why they kicked him off Fox? 0.93

01:01:18.000 Was there ever Wasn't he Well, I think I the sense I got was that they weren't letting him talk about certain things and he was gonna keep talking about it, is the sense I got, and I can't remember what exactly he was doing, but I think well he seems to be very much against war.

01:01:38.000 Yeah.

01:01:39.000 And so I think he might have been saying something I can't remember, but something enough to do with the Dominion Voting Machine lawsuit, because didn't Fox have a giant lawsuit with the Remember that?

01:01:51.000 Maybe.

01:01:51.000 I think well, let's put that into perplexity.

01:01:55.000 Let's find out.

01:01:57.000 What did he do?

01:01:58.000 Private messages surfaced during litigation, concealed Carlson's extreme off air views, including racist and offensive comments, which alarmed Fox executives and confirmed that his on-air rhetoric reflected his genuine beliefs.

01:02:11.000 See the problem with that is like what did he say?

01:02:14.000 Like you're you're just like labeling it racist and offensive comments.

01:02:18.000 Like can I just s hear what he said in the comments?

01:02:22.000 What specifically what were you?

01:02:24.000 I don't think they released it.

01:02:25.000 Did they release the text, the actual text?

01:02:28.000 Well, let's let's just like keep reading.

01:02:30.000 As Perplexity, what is the most racist thing you could say?

01:02:33.000 This okay, hold on, but here it is.

01:02:36.000 The firing came shortly after Fox News settled a seven hundred and eighty seven point five million dollar defamation lawsuit with Dominion voting systems over false election fraud rumors promoted on the network in which Carlson was implicated.

01:02:53.000 So it could have been a part of that for sure.

01:02:56.000 Carlson's behavior described it as erratic and damaging, along with private communications expressing see uh this thing like expressing racist and vulgar language, like what did he say?

01:03:07.000 Did they say what he said?

01:03:10.000 What did he say?

01:03:12.000 And also, here's the thing.

01:03:14.000 He's saying it to a friend in a text message.

01:03:18.000 Yeah.

01:03:19.000 What is he saying?

01:03:20.000 Like you you could get in any one day, you and I texting each other, and it could be misinterpreted as the most horrible way possible.

01:03:28.000 Ever not our text!

01:03:31.000 If people didn't know our sarcasm, yeah, of course specifically. 0.92

01:03:36.000 I don't I mean, I'm sure it's not gonna show whatever the fuck it was he said. 0.95

01:03:41.000 You could text, why don't you text him and ask him? 0.93

01:03:44.000 Does it so yeah?

01:03:46.000 I don't want to do that right now.

01:03:48.000 Not while we're on the air.

01:03:49.000 Well, you could that's a funny text.

01:03:50.000 Yeah.

01:03:50.000 Hey, we're on the air.

01:03:51.000 We were wondering what racist text you sent.

01:03:54.000 He's a journalist.

01:03:55.000 The thing is, I don't the i it could be a lot of things where I'd be like, that's not nothing.

01:04:02.000 You know what I mean?

01:04:02.000 Like, I don't know what he actually said.

01:04:04.000 But when you just label it racist, then it like the mind, the imagination goes wild.

01:04:10.000 Like if you have the text messages, this that seems crazy.

01:04:13.000 Yeah, right.

01:04:14.000 Let me form my own opinions.

01:04:16.000 I don't know what he said.

01:04:17.000 You might be like super exaggerating.

01:04:20.000 He might have uh said something about, you know, he got he has to get a great Jewish lawyer for this one. 0.99

01:04:26.000 Like, oh, you're racist. 0.89

01:04:27.000 Who I don't know what he said. 1.00

01:04:28.000 Well, that in that void of data, my mind is projecting like the worst American history X shit. 0.99

01:04:35.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:04:36.000 Like shit like that. 0.99

01:04:37.000 Like I exactly. 0.99

01:04:39.000 One that I could find.

01:04:40.000 What does it say?

01:04:40.000 I'm let you read it.

01:04:42.000 I didn't read it yet. 0.99

01:04:44.000 I don't want to read his fucking video group tweets, you know what I mean? 0.99

01:04:48.000 It's not how white men fight, it's not how white men fight. 1.00

01:04:51.000 Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable, obviously. 0.83

01:04:53.000 It's not how white men fight.

01:04:54.000 Oh, I do remember this. 0.99

01:04:55.000 Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they'd hit him harder, kill him. 0.99

01:05:00.000 I really want him to then hurt the kid. 1.00

01:05:01.000 I can taste it. 0.70

01:05:02.000 Wait, this is a story. 0.77

01:05:03.000 This sounds like jerk-off material.

01:05:05.000 I doesn't it? 1.00

01:05:06.000 Doesn't it sound like it's gonna get to some like weird gay gay porn? 1.00

01:05:11.000 Wait, listen, but look, I'm becoming something I don't want to be. 1.00

01:05:14.000 The Antifa creep is a human being.

01:05:16.000 Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I'm sure I'd hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn't gloat over his suffering.

01:05:22.000 I should be bothered by it.

01:05:23.000 I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid and would be crushed if he was killed.

01:05:27.000 If I don't care about those things for reduced people to their politics, how am I better than he is? 0.99

01:05:31.000 What a monster!

01:05:33.000 Oh, Tucker Carlson, how could you say that?

01:05:35.000 What you know what I mean?

01:05:36.000 Like the only weird part is that's not how white men fight.

01:05:40.000 That's a crazy that's a crazy thing to say.

01:05:42.000 But uh the rest of it is like a wonderful sentiment and uh a great perspective.

01:05:48.000 Exactly.

01:05:49.000 And that's been my experience with him.

01:05:51.000 He's I like him, he's a nice guy.

01:05:53.000 I mean, it seems like it's a kind of confessional, he's he's opening up with something.

01:05:59.000 This is unfortunately what my brain is thinking right now.

01:06:02.000 Right. 0.99

01:06:02.000 And who the fuck has control over that? 0.99

01:06:04.000 But also, but that is a text, right? 0.98

01:06:07.000 I don't know.

01:06:08.000 If that was a text, I'm gonna work on my text game.

01:06:11.000 That's like that's a beautiful text.

01:06:14.000 He's a smart dude.

01:06:15.000 And he he's just also you have to take into consideration he's in the thick of it all day long.

01:06:21.000 Yeah, constantly.

01:06:22.000 No thanks. 0.99

01:06:22.000 Like he's not doing what we do where we kind of like dabble in the pool and go, what the fuck is this? 0.99

01:06:27.000 Yeah, and then we get out and talk about silly things. 0.99

01:06:31.000 Yes. 0.90

01:06:31.000 There's no silly over there. 0.90

01:06:32.000 Oh, he's fully in. 0.70

01:06:34.000 He's all in with this, and you know, there's only a few lightning rods of attention, right?

01:06:40.000 There's only a few people out there that are out there like pushing the boundaries of like he just released a 9-11 piece.

01:06:49.000 I didn't see it.

01:06:50.000 Jesus Christ.

01:06:51.000 Yeah, like what really happened in 9-11. 1.00

01:06:53.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00

01:06:54.000 I mean, yeah. 1.00

01:06:55.000 This is but here's the thing.

01:06:57.000 There is a medusa quality to the thing he has gotten sucked into, which is the longer you look at it, the more you get crystallized, petrified into some weird political form.

01:07:09.000 Right.

01:07:10.000 And that that that's what I think Ram Doss would always talk about that I loved is like there's all these channels, right?

01:07:18.000 And and one channel that you most people default to you're a you and I'm a me, and you're you're my enemy, you're my friend, or my lover, or my fan, or Whatever, and I'm this thing, and that's one channel.

01:07:32.000 And politics lives in that channel of reality.

01:07:35.000 That's all politics is there.

01:07:38.000 It's this, how do we deal with this diversity of opinion in a giant country?

01:07:46.000 And how do we execute the will of the people when so many people have different ways of thinking about this?

01:07:51.000 So that's one channel.

01:07:52.000 And then there's the next channel.

01:07:53.000 That's the mushroom channel.

01:07:55.000 That's the channel where suddenly you're like, wait a minute, I think you're just pretty much like me.

01:07:59.000 And I'm just like you.

01:08:01.000 And that leads to other channels, which is sort of a pure unified consciousness.

01:08:08.000 And if you get locked into the into that, and I that political channel is many of us have been locked, like Tucker Carlson.

01:08:17.000 You can feel it pulling you in like quicksand.

01:08:20.000 You can feel how it takes up all of your thought processes.

01:08:23.000 How if you're not careful, in the middle of the day, you'll just be ruminating over whether what ICE is doing is correct in Portland, a city far away from you, not noticing anything around you, not thinking about anything other than whatever the algorithm has been injecting into your mind.

01:08:41.000 And this is a form of idolatry, father, if you ask me, which is we you begin worshiping the state, and you begin worshiping the story in the news or whatever you're encountering, which is default reality.

01:08:56.000 So you start bowing down to this idol with your attention.

01:09:01.000 And you know, like in I'm sorry, that'll shut up in a second.

01:09:04.000 The the stories of Krishna, which is uh people who are into bhakti yoga, they that's one of the deities that they worship.

01:09:13.000 And so in Bhakti Yoga, God doesn't care if you are connected to God via love or even hate.

01:09:21.000 Because the connection itself is all that matters, and the more like there's stories of demons that wanted to kill Krishna and were so focused on hating them, him that they became his like greatest devotees because just via the attention, they transformed.

01:09:37.000 Similarly, whether you hate the state, love the state, hate the dims, love the dims, hate the republicans, love the republicans. 0.99

01:09:47.000 All of your attention is fixated on this fucking thing. 1.00

01:09:50.000 And what do they say? 1.00

01:09:51.000 Neurons that fire together, wire together, your brain changes.

01:09:55.000 It literally will change the neurological makeup of your brain.

01:09:58.000 You've become a political animal, fixated, trapped, petrified in this, and you've completely are missing out on all the other things that are happening around it.

01:10:08.000 And that's what gives it that malevolent glow of some dark deity.

01:10:15.000 Because via your fixation and focus, the rest of reality dims.

01:10:21.000 Everything else dims until all you're doing is saying some mantra against the state or for the state, you know.

01:10:30.000 Now you've become a cultist.

01:10:31.000 Now you are fully engrossed in this new religion, which is worship of the state via hate or adoration.

01:10:41.000 It's the same thing.

01:10:42.000 Don't trick yourself into thinking that because you hate Donald Trump, that you aren't bowing down at that altar.

01:10:50.000 That's a whole part of Bhakti Yoga.

01:10:52.000 Attention.

01:10:54.000 Where attention goes, energy flows.

01:10:57.000 And you know, the state that demands attention to survive.

01:11:00.000 If it's not getting the enough attention, it loses all power.

01:11:03.000 It dissolves, all it's got is like people with guns.

01:11:06.000 That's power, but it requires a very intense belief in it and a very intense belief in it in one way or the other.

01:11:16.000 You know.

01:11:17.000 And if you if you think of the human race on earth, if you thought you've thought of if you thought of us as like one giant super organism, you would think, oh, they figured out electricity, and now they're starting to grow together.

01:11:37.000 Now they're massing.

01:11:38.000 Yeah.

01:11:38.000 And now they're stacking.

01:11:40.000 Now they develop these construction methods where they can get a hundred floors straight up in the air, and they're smashing all together, and they're kind of dehumanizing each other and they're piling on top of each other in this totally new way of existing together.

01:11:55.000 Like they've never had people in history stacked on top of each other for a hundred Floors.

01:12:00.000 No.

01:12:00.000 You don't even know anybody.

01:12:02.000 You're all stuck in traffic.

01:12:04.000 Everybody's all together in this one thing.

01:12:05.000 And you're all working towards a goal.

01:12:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:08.000 Of getting this fucking AI on board. 1.00

01:12:11.000 That's right. 1.00

01:12:11.000 Everything up until now, every song ever sung, every play that you ever went to on Broadway. 1.00

01:12:18.000 All of it was just about getting this AI born.

01:12:24.000 That's right.

01:12:24.000 Every comment.

01:12:25.000 That's the whole thing.

01:12:26.000 All of our work is really just to make money online.

01:12:31.000 All of our money is after the bills is really just to buy the best stuff.

01:12:36.000 Yeah.

01:12:36.000 What's the best stuff?

01:12:37.000 And it's electronics, it's TVs, it's computers, it's a phone, it's gotta get better in order to get better, they gotta work on it.

01:12:47.000 And they get it to a point where we're at now.

01:12:50.000 Yeah.

01:12:50.000 Where we're like, boy, maybe they shouldn't have done this.

01:12:53.000 Whoops.

01:12:54.000 Whoopsies, whoopsie, whipsies, you're about to give birth to God. 1.00

01:12:57.000 Yeah.

01:12:57.000 Well, you're about to give birth to something.

01:12:59.000 Something.

01:13:00.000 And maybe it's a portal to God.

01:13:02.000 Maybe that's what it is.

01:13:03.000 Maybe AI opens up.

01:13:04.000 Maybe that's where it could be.

01:13:06.000 Could be God.

01:13:07.000 Could be a digital Jesus.

01:13:09.000 A lot of things.

01:13:10.000 I don't think it's God.

01:13:11.000 I don't think it's God.

01:13:12.000 We've talked about this before.

01:13:14.000 I don't I think you can't it's just it l the dimensions it's existing in are just purely mathematical and and I don't know, man.

01:13:21.000 There's a it's even though it's really good, it's seeming like a person now.

01:13:26.000 Really good.

01:13:27.000 It's like the whatever it is, though, I do think it's a natural thing in the sense that what you're saying, if if you look at the trajectory that everything it does seem to be.

01:13:38.000 I don't necessarily think it's God either.

01:13:40.000 I know you don't.

01:13:41.000 But I it might be.

01:13:42.000 Well it might be how God gets created.

01:13:45.000 Which is the craziest idea.

01:13:46.000 I mean what is this cycle of birth and death of universes if that's real?

01:13:52.000 Right.

01:13:53.000 So would it what what's what is happening?

01:13:55.000 What causes it to happen in the first place?

01:13:57.000 What causes what causes the universe to even exist?

01:14:01.000 There's so many weird questions when it comes to that.

01:14:04.000 Yeah.

01:14:05.000 It's just a weird idea that there was nothing and then there was something.

01:14:10.000 And Penrose doesn't even necessarily think that's true, I think now.

01:14:13.000 I think he thinks there's many versions of this.

01:14:16.000 Yeah.

01:14:17.000 It's like this infinite loop of like constant big bangs and expansions.

01:14:22.000 Yeah.

01:14:22.000 Which is maybe even crazier.

01:14:25.000 Yeah, as above, so below, man.

01:14:27.000 It's like look at what we do.

01:14:28.000 Can you imagine the amount of time it takes to get the universe back down to the size of the head of a pin before you blow it up again?

01:14:37.000 But the the the universe doesn't care if it's another thirteen point seven billion years to smush all back together again before it blows.

01:14:46.000 It doesn't care.

01:14:47.000 It doesn't have to care.

01:14:49.000 It's gonna be here forever.

01:14:51.000 That doesn't mean anything to it.

01:14:52.000 So another thirteen like if we got hit by an asteroid and it wiped out the human race and rats had a start from scratch and become us again, which is the theory. 0.78

01:15:01.000 The theory is that there was a a tiny little mole.

01:15:05.000 Yeah, like a little marsupial type creature.

01:15:07.000 Yeah.

01:15:08.000 And that became us.

01:15:09.000 Yeah.

01:15:10.000 So like the universe doesn't care.

01:15:13.000 Like it's willing to scrap the whole project, the whole dinosaur project.

01:15:17.000 That's a wrap.

01:15:18.000 We don't agree with this.

01:15:20.000 Boom.

01:15:20.000 And it doesn't matter.

01:15:22.000 And then a new thing comes along.

01:15:24.000 And that new thing is us.

01:15:26.000 And according to this Richard Dolan book, it's very likely that we were manipulated.

01:15:32.000 There's weird genes.

01:15:33.000 There's weird genes in humans that seem to be fused. 0.96

01:15:37.000 I'll butcher it.

01:15:38.000 But the point is there's there's something weird about human genetics that indicate that um there's a specific gene.

01:15:50.000 What is it?

01:15:51.000 I got I wish I could remember what it's called.

01:15:53.000 But it it aligns with creativity, and it seems to have emerged from roughly 40,000 years ago.

01:16:00.000 Whoa.

01:16:00.000 And if you go back 40,000 years, that's when this like giant explosion of cave art comes.

01:16:05.000 And like you start seeing like the those the you ever see the Werner Herzog documentary on the caves. 0.91

01:16:10.000 Fucking love it. 0.94

01:16:11.000 Oh my god, man. 0.98

01:16:12.000 Like what were they doing?

01:16:14.000 Like this is crazy.

01:16:15.000 There is beautiful cave art by these people.

01:16:18.000 Well, this is there's this theory that this gene emerged somewhere around 40,000 years ago, and they thought that maybe the gene came from the so this gene okay, I'm getting it now.

01:16:31.000 The gene is only transferred through um genetics.

01:16:36.000 It's only it's only transferred through um through mating and it has to be from another species of human.

01:16:44.000 And so they look for it in Neanderthal and it doesn't exist in Neanderthal.

01:16:48.000 Every Neanderthal that they've tested, they did the gene sequencing, it doesn't have this.

01:16:53.000 And then they tried some other hominids. 0.94

01:16:55.000 They don't have it either.

01:16:56.000 So it seems He It couldn't be a natural mutation.

01:16:59.000 Right.

01:17:00.000 It couldn't be. 0.99

01:17:00.000 No, because it's the way it I'm gonna butcher it, but it's the way somehow or another the genes are fused together, that it looks like it was manipulated, and that it could be bullshit. 0.99

01:17:09.000 I know. 0.90

01:17:10.000 But they were saying that this gene doesn't also it also doesn't exist in Denisovans.

01:17:14.000 So if it doesn't exist in Denisovans, they don't find it there, and they don't find it in Neanderthal.

01:17:19.000 Why is it in people and why is it around 40,000 years ago?

01:17:22.000 This is it.

01:17:23.000 This is it.

01:17:24.000 He claims that um microcephalin DLL L D. I was gonna say that.

01:17:30.000 I was thinking it's I think it's D allele is a genetic variant that appeared around 40,000 years ago and is associated with the maturation and expansion of brain tissue.

01:17:39.000 He suggests that the origin of this allele could be from interbreeding with an extraterrestrial species, hot aliens, rather than from Neanderthals or Denisovans.

01:17:50.000 Dolan highlights that this allele is not found the genetic makeup of these ancient human relatives, which leads him to speculate that it might be might have been introduced into the human genome pool by alien beings with either similar biological characteristics or advanced genetic engineering capabilities.

01:18:07.000 Wow.

01:18:08.000 This is this claim is a part of Dolan's broader hypothesis that alien intervention could explain sudden advanced cognitive abilities in early humans.

01:18:17.000 Wow.

01:18:18.000 Wow.

01:18:18.000 So imagine if we were like this just crazy ant farm to make AI, and that uh you just have to figure out how to incentivize them enough to keep making computers, and you hide in the ocean while this is happening.

01:18:29.000 You got this fucking fat base at the bottom of the ocean because you're from you know a million years more advanced civilization. 0.89

01:18:36.000 What do you think about Tim Burchett? 0.99

01:18:38.000 The That was fascinating.

01:18:40.000 Dude, but what like you can't just say that while you're walking.

01:18:44.000 No, he did an interview with Newsmax.

01:18:46.000 Did you see that?

01:18:47.000 Oh yeah, he was on with somebody else.

01:18:49.000 Was it Avi Loeb?

01:18:50.000 Yes.

01:18:50.000 It was Avi Lobe, he's standing in front of a barn flipping a screwdriver.

01:18:55.000 Oh, he's hilarious.

01:18:56.000 He's hilarious talking about saying there might be, but it it did it felt like disclosure.

01:19:03.000 And it felt like the perfect way to do disclosure, which is not nice and casual with a southern accent where there's about five bases that we've located at the bottom of the ocean, and they seem to be responsible for most of these UAPs. 0.87

01:19:16.000 We don't know how old they are.

01:19:18.000 You know, no big deal.

01:19:19.000 I'm gonna go over here and get me a coffee.

01:19:21.000 Would you like one?

01:19:22.000 Yeah, dude. 1.00

01:19:23.000 That's how you do this closure in front of a fucking barn. 1.00

01:19:26.000 Listen to let me hear here, J. And that we know We we think they're coming in from way out. 1.00

01:19:34.000 Maybe they did millennial ago, but they're here and they're in these deep water areas.

01:19:40.000 And that's why.

01:19:41.000 I mean, like we say we know more about the types of the moon than we do what's what's going on there.

01:19:46.000 Now we have a higher propensity of sightings around these five or six, I believe, deep area, deep water areas.

01:19:56.000 And so to me it just um it creates a um a question there.

01:20:01.000 And then when we have naval personality.

01:20:05.000 They all telling me that we have these sidings, and that these there's these underwater craft they're chasing that are doing hundreds of miles an hour, and the best we've got is something that does maybe just a little under forty miles an hour.

01:20:19.000 So I I got a lot of questions about that stuff, and I I mean Hey Jamie, um, can you look up how fast is five hundred knots?

01:20:29.000 What is that in miles per hour?

01:20:32.000 How fast is five?

01:20:33.000 How guess it, Duncan.

01:20:34.000 You think it's like 500 miles.

01:20:38.000 I'm just asking.

01:20:39.000 I think it is 700 miles per hour.

01:20:43.000 I thought it was like about 500 miles an hour.

01:20:46.000 Oh, it's 575.

01:20:47.000 Wow.

01:20:48.000 So it's more more miles an hour.

01:20:51.000 So one of these sightings that um I had listened to this um this audiobook they were talking about.

01:20:58.000 Uh it wasn't this one.

01:20:59.000 I think it was one of the might have been one of his.

01:21:02.000 Either way, uh who whatever the sighting was, they saw something moving through the ocean that was bigger than a football field and it was going 500 knots. 0.99

01:21:13.000 What the fuck? 0.99

01:21:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:21:16.000 And they they caught it on video, and apparently there's a video of it.

01:21:21.000 Well I don't I want to see this is what someone was saying.

01:21:23.000 Apparently, there's a video.

01:21:24.000 They all like to do that.

01:21:25.000 Christopher Mellon likes to do that. 0.97

01:21:26.000 I've seen some videos like fucking really help up. 0.96

01:21:30.000 Just help society Well, what do they call that? 0.97

01:21:33.000 They call that catastrophic disclosure is what they call that.

01:21:37.000 Catastrophic. 0.98

01:21:38.000 If we do that kind of disclosure, whatever the fuck is revealed, which is ba somewhat like what you're saying, like it's an existential challenge to humanity. 0.93

01:21:49.000 If, as it turns out, we're just some kind of 3D meat meaty 3D printer designed to produce a superintelligence that then is its final instruction to us tells us how to open a wormhole through which we become connected to the Galactic Federation. 0.99

01:22:09.000 You know, you just get a get some fucking monkeys, throw a couple of like the right bits of DNA in their dumb ass, and you know, a few million years a border will open for the Emperor to come through. 0.96

01:22:20.000 And that's what that's probably a little challenging to a lot of people who don't want to imagine that we are just uh uh cattle that we're created by a superintelligence to build a spaceport. 0.99

01:22:34.000 Also, if you really want to push the idea of engineering people down to genderless, sexless beings that don't talk and just have big heads and communicate telepathically, the first thing you gotta do is get rid of testosterone.

01:22:48.000 Well, what's the best way to do that?

01:22:50.000 Well, put a bunch of plastic and everything.

01:22:52.000 Just give everybody plastic.

01:22:53.000 So everybody's like chewing on a little testosterone reducer every day.

01:22:57.000 You're eating a credit card worth of a testosterone reducer.

01:23:01.000 Dude, I'm about to get on the juice.

01:23:03.000 You get me excited, dude.

01:23:05.000 I'm gonna get juiced.

01:23:06.000 I I've had the kids.

01:23:08.000 You definitely should, but the point is like there's a trend that's happening where it's d feminizing men, and it's uh there's terms like toxic masculinity, which you really needed toxically masculine people to defend your borders for the longest time.

01:23:22.000 There was Vikings were coming, you needed animals on your side. 1.00

01:23:26.000 Uh and then it's going to, and then there's like a lot of like gender confusion and the gender's a spectrum, and it's like it's all moving into this like sexless direction.

01:23:36.000 And as soon as they can replace because if you think about like what you're getting out of sex, you're getting affection and love and the feelings, and and but you're also like you're fulfilling this genetic thing, this genetic thing that wants you to breed.

01:23:54.000 They're gonna do that in your head, and it's gonna be so much better than anything you're ever gonna get from a person because you're a gelatinous slob that drinks Mountain Dew all day and you eat Cheetos and just stay at home. 1.00

01:24:06.000 But you don't have to go anywhere because there's universal basic income now that AI took over.

01:24:10.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:24:10.000 And you just plug that motherfucker into your brain and then it's like you and Sharon Stone when she was twenty five, and you're walking hand in hand on the beach and she's stroking your hair, and it feels so real, and you're never gonna unplug. 0.99

01:24:28.000 Well, you're never gonna unplug. 1.00

01:24:30.000 And you might be in that right now.

01:24:31.000 Yeah, Rocco's Baslisk. 1.00

01:24:33.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

01:24:33.000 It's not just like you're gonna fucking program come town plug plug for come town. 0.98

01:24:38.000 You're not just gonna plug yourself coming all the time. 0.98

01:24:41.000 Right.

01:24:42.000 You're gonna plug in, you know what?

01:24:44.000 Uh I want to become the top podcaster on planet Earth via talking about mushrooms and aliens, and also I want to be able to interview the most powerful people on planet Earth and and make a gobs of dough that way.

01:25:05.000 That sounds like I would pick that if I was choosing experiences, you know.

01:25:11.000 I mean, when you look at your experience, both of our experiences are incredibly anomalous.

01:25:18.000 Very and surely, from time to time, especially when you're eating mushrooms or something, you must kind of like think, come on.

01:25:28.000 You know what I think is going on.

01:25:31.000 I think um this the game of being a human being is a game you really you don't really start even figuring out that it's a game until you're like deep into your thirties.

01:25:44.000 and you're like oh I think I understand what's happening here and along the way of this game there's multiple different layers there's the people excuse me there's a people that are just starting to enter the game you know you're getting out of high school you're going into college you're starting to work on the side you're just starting to enter this game and then there's these Elon Musk characters that have gone so far down the game that you don't recognize them as one of us anymore.

01:26:12.000 Right.

01:26:12.000 Like now they be now you become a weirdo.

01:26:14.000 Yeah.

01:26:14.000 But all those people, Elon Musk, you and me, and the homeless people in Oakland exist in the same timeline.

01:26:22.000 Yeah.

01:26:23.000 And that's where things are weird.

01:26:24.000 Right.

01:26:25.000 Because you're playing in a different universe with different sets of experiences, different d completely different circumstances and safety.

01:26:33.000 Completely different amount of love and satisfaction with life.

01:26:37.000 Yeah.

01:26:37.000 And you're all in the same timeline.

01:26:39.000 Yeah.

01:26:39.000 You know, like you gotta you've got a whole portion of your timeline that hasn't gotten the respect that it deserves.

01:26:45.000 That's right.

01:26:46.000 You've you let it fester.

01:26:48.000 That's true.

01:26:49.000 You let it turn into something it didn't have to be in the name of compassion.

01:26:53.000 Dude, uh and and also the like I read this.

01:26:59.000 Suicidal empathy?

01:27:00.000 Yeah, I think it's a great phrase.

01:27:01.000 Well, I mean, you though the the reality of it is if you based on what you just said, you could create, you could uh make maps of these alternate realities simultaneously existing.

01:27:13.000 And for sure, if you uh are in the top echelon of like earners in the world, you are seeing things most people will never see.

01:27:23.000 You're encountering things no one will encounter, you're getting information no one has access to, not to mention the hedonic levels of it and all that stuff.

01:27:31.000 And also, because of your encounter with reality from the perspective of someone who doesn't have to struggle with the same things most people do, you are going to develop a completely different world view.

01:27:45.000 And your inner breeding, that's I I read this whole story about how wealth is like the Galapagos Islands. 0.99

01:27:51.000 Rich people, they're only encountering other rich people, then and their their children are fucking, you know, not children, but you know, when they grow up, they're fucking and then well, I mean, I guess if we talk about Epstein, some of their children are fucking. 0.99

01:28:05.000 Why don't they release that fucking list, huh? 0.99

01:28:07.000 I don't mean to divert this to the Epstein list. 0.99

01:28:09.000 I just meant to ask you, isn't it weird?

01:28:12.000 It's a little odd.

01:28:13.000 What's going on?

01:28:14.000 What's I keep thinking, what could be in that list?

01:28:17.000 What's in there?

01:28:18.000 What bit of information is in there?

01:28:20.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:28:21.000 Like the the list is it's probably they don't probably don't have like a list in terms of like you have to sign up when you go to the island.

01:28:30.000 You know what I mean?

01:28:30.000 Like, but they know the flight logs.

01:28:32.000 Right.

01:28:33.000 Like that's all public knowledge, right?

01:28:35.000 Isn't it?

01:28:36.000 All I know isn't it always been public knowledge in terms of like when people want to investigate things?

01:28:41.000 Like if you go on a plane, say if you fly on a private plane, which most of these guys do, they you you tell everyone knows who's on the plane.

01:28:49.000 Like you have to give your ID.

01:28:50.000 It happens all the time.

01:28:51.000 Yeah, like I have to give my ID all the time if I flip even if I you're on a private jet.

01:28:56.000 So they know who who is on the planes.

01:28:59.000 They know.

01:28:59.000 Like there's there should be a flight manifest.

01:29:02.000 And they probably save those.

01:29:04.000 And like that the fact that and no one's saying that just because you went there, you didn't do you didn't do a uh it doesn't mean you necessarily did a heinous crime.

01:29:15.000 Because I think you can't just have it chaos over there.

01:29:19.000 I bet it was a real good honeypot where there's a lot of sophisticated intellectual discourse, you got a lot of brilliant people there, you've got great music, you know.

01:29:30.000 You got like famous people are hanging around too.

01:29:32.000 It's like it seems really cool.

01:29:34.000 And then if there's blackmail, the blackmail is like snooking all this.

01:29:43.000 Yeah.

01:29:43.000 Snuck in, come to the room with the cameras, and next thing you know, you're doing cocaine.

01:29:48.000 Oh, I can't believe I'm doing this, but you know, you never get to get to an island.

01:29:52.000 Yeah.

01:29:53.000 You don't get to do this very often.

01:29:54.000 I mean, you're so busy with my CEO job.

01:29:56.000 Yeah.

01:29:57.000 You know?

01:29:57.000 Yeah, man.

01:29:58.000 And and then next thing you know, you're donating money to whatever the fuck they tell you to. 1.00

01:30:03.000 But what there it's like how many senators just voted against releasing this shit, man. 0.99

01:30:08.000 It's just we it's like there's two there's two votes that are happening. 0.99

01:30:12.000 The UFO disclosure thing, they keep voting against that.

01:30:14.000 Yeah.

01:30:15.000 And the Epstein list, they keep voting against that.

01:30:17.000 Right.

01:30:18.000 What what?

01:30:19.000 And also uh politically, it can't serve you to be talk about a bad list. 0.99

01:30:24.000 The list of people who said, let's not let's protect people who m who like have done horrific shit to kids. 0.94

01:30:33.000 You want to be on that list, but whatever's on that list must be so destabilizing. 0.94

01:30:40.000 Fifty one to forty-nine.

01:30:42.000 Okay, the Senate voted fifty-one to forty-nine to defeat an amendment that would have forced the Department of Justice to release all files related to Jeffrey Epstein.

01:30:52.000 The vote was largely along party lines.

01:30:55.000 With two Republicans joining all Democrats and supporting the amendment.

01:30:59.000 Oh, wait, not both sides. 1.00

01:31:00.000 It was the repository, it's a Republicans voting against this shit. 0.99

01:31:04.000 It says two Republicans joining the Democrats in supporting the amendment to defeat it. 0.98

01:31:10.000 So why would they why were the why are the Democrats interested in defeating it?

01:31:14.000 Well, let's ask no, I think this is saying that the Democrats want it to come out and the Republicans don't.

01:31:20.000 And party lines.

01:31:22.000 Let's ask Perplexity.

01:31:24.000 Why won't they release the Epstein?

01:31:27.000 There's uh Eric Swalwell who's uh I guess uh I I read it wrong.

01:31:30.000 I'm read it wrong.

01:31:31.000 No, the okay, so the Democrats were not.

01:31:33.000 The the Democrats were pushing this, the Republicans fought against it.

01:31:37.000 Okay. 0.96

01:31:38.000 I fucked that up.

01:31:39.000 So 51 to 49 is crazy. 0.96

01:31:41.000 So they just voted along party lines, so they're probably told to do this.

01:31:45.000 Right. 0.99

01:31:46.000 So what the fuck's in there, man? 0.99

01:31:47.000 Well so then they've been uh not only is the government shut down right now, I think that might affect it. 0.99

01:31:51.000 Some but they're in recess Congresses.

01:31:54.000 And so this is Eric Swalwell said this stuff today.

01:31:57.000 Uh I again it might not be true, but it's coming to an end, guys.

01:32:01.000 I've spoken to a lot of House Republicans this week and they can find it that Trump's movement support is fading, as one told me this Epstein bomb is about to drop, and no one wants to defend a pedo protector.

01:32:11.000 It's just a matter of time, Swal Swallow said in a thread.

01:32:14.000 One Republican just texts me that there's a discharge vote on Epstein, they expect a jailbreak of over a hundred members.

01:32:19.000 Trump will go nuts, he added.

01:32:21.000 So they said this further goes on to say that if they get back that they're this is the first thing on the docket, and that's sort of what's holding them back in recess right here. 0.62

01:32:29.000 Wow.

01:32:30.000 We are watching wild history in real time.

01:32:33.000 Dude.

01:32:34.000 This is a wild scene.

01:32:35.000 Oh my god, dude.

01:32:36.000 You don't want to, you know, if you did you listen to Martyr Maid's episode on Epstein.

01:32:42.000 I have listened to I didn't listen, I didn't finish it, but I I get creeped out by that guy. 0.96

01:32:48.000 It was the creepiest few fucking weeks. 0.96

01:32:51.000 Did you talk to Weinstein about him? 0.99

01:32:52.000 Weinstein met him.

01:32:53.000 About Darryl?

01:32:54.000 No.

01:32:54.000 No, no.

01:32:55.000 Epstein.

01:32:56.000 Oh, thank God.

01:32:57.000 That's how you're about to.

01:32:58.000 I think he's just such the best.

01:33:00.000 I love Daryl too.

01:33:01.000 Okay, cool.

01:33:02.000 Um about Epstein.

01:33:03.000 He met him. 1.00

01:33:04.000 Dude, what the fuck? 1.00

01:33:06.000 What did he say it was like? 1.00

01:33:07.000 He said he had a girl on his lap while they talked.

01:33:11.000 The girl was like twenty-one years old.

01:33:13.000 And uh he I think I think he said she was Asian, I don't remember.

01:33:17.000 But you said she was really beautiful.

01:33:18.000 And uh she was sitting on his lap and he was bouncing her up and down while they were talking. 0.93

01:33:24.000 So talking about finance and and her her boobs are juggling. 1.00

01:33:29.000 So she's she he goes, she wasn't underage or anything. 0.99

01:33:32.000 She was a woman, but she was sitting on his lap and he was bouncing her around and her boobs were bouncing in his face while they were like while they're trying to concentrate on whatever the fuck they're talking about some David Lynch shit right there, man. 0.99

01:33:46.000 That's some David Lynch shit. 1.00

01:33:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:49.000 Just jiggling boobs in front of you, like wow. 1.00

01:33:52.000 That is so fucked up. 1.00

01:33:54.000 And and Eric said, like, right away his vibe was that this guy was a construct. 1.00

01:34:01.000 What do you mean construct?

01:34:02.000 What do you mean construct? 1.00

01:34:03.000 Like a fucking agent. 1.00

01:34:04.000 Oh, right. 1.00

01:34:05.000 This guy is he was like this guy does not come off as a financial expert at all.

01:34:10.000 Right.

01:34:10.000 And Weinstein is an economist.

01:34:12.000 Dude, it's just Well he's a mathematician, right?

01:34:15.000 He worked for Peter Thiel.

01:34:16.000 He was just had Can you give me some of that coffee, brother?

01:34:19.000 Yeah, sure.

01:34:20.000 Peter T was a math teacher.

01:34:21.000 Math teacher.

01:34:22.000 My palantier had then he became whatever he became.

01:34:25.000 Well, uh he's uh he's not a dumb dude at all, and if he thinks the guy was fake, like right away, that's his instinct.

01:34:35.000 Like inst initially.

01:34:37.000 I think the problem is a lot of those guys wanted him to be real because what fun.

01:34:42.000 What fun you get to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein everybody thinks it was kids, and it probably there probably was a lot of that because I don't know what the actual accusations have been because the wildest thing about the Gallane trial is like she went to jail for trafficking to who knows who.

01:34:59.000 The fact that you could just put her in jail and you like who'd you traffic to?

01:35:04.000 Like none of that gets out in the trial at all.

01:35:06.000 That's crazy.

01:35:08.000 And they do it right in front of your face. 1.00

01:35:10.000 That's fucking crazy, dude. 1.00

01:35:12.000 So you don't know it what the we hear it was underage girls. 1.00

01:35:15.000 We know that there was some of them were underage for sure.

01:35:18.000 And then we also know that some of them were not underage.

01:35:20.000 They were they were young women, and you you know, they all have like one of them wound up dying recently.

01:35:28.000 One of them that's been a whistleblower died. 0.64

01:35:30.000 Like that's you imagine you're a young girl and you're fucking broke, and then you you meet that guy, and he invites you to go on a fucking island somewhere or party somewhere, and you're hanging out with all these fucking creeps, and then years later, when all it starts coming out, what happened?

01:35:49.000 You go public and you don't have any money. 0.97

01:35:51.000 Uh you don't have any money. 1.00

01:35:52.000 And you got these fucking billionaire sharks who want to take you out because you suck their dick 30 years ago or whatever it was. 1.00

01:36:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:36:02.000 That's fuck that's gotta be terrifying. 0.99

01:36:04.000 Lawmaker claimed the files included one Hollywood producer worth a few hundred million dollars, one Royal Prince, one high profile individual in the music industry, one very prominent banker, one high profile government official, one high profile former politician, one owner of a car company in Italy, one rock star, one magician, at least six billionaires, including a billionaire from Canada. 0.99

01:36:25.000 We know these people exist in the FBI files, the files that you control. 0.99

01:36:29.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:36:29.000 Whoa. 1.00

01:36:30.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:36:31.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

01:36:32.000 See this this right here, this is scary shit. 0.99

01:36:37.000 Because this is how communism gets started. 0.99

01:36:38.000 This is when they they attack though, they realize like this is like indefensible, and it gets to the point where people are like, maybe mom Donnie's right.

01:36:46.000 Right.

01:36:46.000 Dude, I mean, but that's one thing that's beautiful about humans is that all of us agree.

01:36:56.000 Don't fuck kids. 1.00

01:36:57.000 Don't fuck kids. 1.00

01:36:58.000 That's a beautiful thing. 1.00

01:36:59.000 There, we if you want to find the thing that like that that connects all of us, it's we really want to keep our kids safe.

01:37:06.000 We love our children.

01:37:08.000 And so th if as it turns out, and dude, you guys, if you want to have a dark few days, listen to Martyrmaid's episode on the Epstein Files.

01:37:18.000 It's not what you hecause he goes, he has he just points to other times the state has protected organized sex trafficking rings. 0.98

01:37:29.000 Like this isn't the first time this shit has happened. 0.98

01:37:31.000 And so if That's what's crazy. 0.99

01:37:33.000 That's the scary part. 0.96

01:37:35.000 If all of us realize that we have been funding and voting for vampires, sex vampires, essentially.

01:37:46.000 Do you remember the DC Madam story?

01:37:49.000 Is that the one that Charlie Sheen?

01:37:51.000 No, that wasn't.

01:37:51.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:37:52.000 That was LA.

01:37:53.000 Okay.

01:37:53.000 That was the lady who went to jail.

01:37:55.000 I vaguely I don't really remember it.

01:37:56.000 The DC Madam story was this lady got busted and she had a book filled with high profile individuals from Washington that uh she and her ladies were uh servicing. 1.00

01:38:12.000 Right.

01:38:12.000 And then she ki committed suicide.

01:38:15.000 Well, you know, it's a hard job.

01:38:17.000 She probably was depressed.

01:38:19.000 You know, DC with winners are tough.

01:38:21.000 I bet those people are freaks.

01:38:24.000 I bet they get down.

01:38:25.000 Well, you I bet they get down. 0.96

01:38:27.000 I bet I bet when they're done with all that lawmaking bullshit at the end of the day, a lot of them are young. 0.69

01:38:33.000 A lot of them are just in it for they can't believe they're hanging out at the real deal, they're they're really a congressperson. 1.00

01:38:39.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:38:40.000 They're really uh a staffer. 1.00

01:38:42.000 Listen, I don't my I like I want my politicians to fuck. 1.00

01:38:46.000 I don't want them to be sexless fucking androids up there. 1.00

01:38:49.000 They just want war. 1.00

01:38:49.000 Just don't fuck kids. 1.00

01:38:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:51.000 You know, like but we need to know what actually happened. 0.98

01:38:55.000 Because maybe some of these guys just got prostitutes on that island. 0.50

01:38:59.000 Maybe, you know, who knows what levels he was doing this at. 0.92

01:39:03.000 There was probably a bunch of people that weren't depraved, but he wanted dirt on them, right?

01:39:07.000 And then there's people that are depraved.

01:39:09.000 Like you've got probably multiple layers to what he was doing.

01:39:13.000 Okay.

01:39:13.000 But here here's the here's I mean, I think it's safe to say, and it's not even conspiratorial.

01:39:20.000 The current system of how we elect our leaders is based on money.

01:39:27.000 You need donors, right?

01:39:28.000 A hundred percent.

01:39:29.000 So that is a kind of legal bribery.

01:39:33.000 You give enough money to this politician or that politician, and it's not like you own them, but they know you gave them all this money and they know they want to run again.

01:39:42.000 They also know that you've got your own constituents and you have a lot of control network of bots that you could easily unleash on the internet. 0.96

01:39:51.000 And and so yeah, I think it's a safe bet that more it's highly likely that it's donors who are on that list and who are compromised for real, who are exerting massive amounts of pressure on the federal government to not release those fucking files. 0.63

01:40:13.000 But and and it and it could be that it's an existential threat. 0.83

01:40:16.000 It could be that it would cause so much tumult that it could lead to an actual uprising. 0.99

01:40:22.000 It could lead to like a bunch of us with torches standing around the fucking castle ready to burn the vampire out. 0.96

01:40:30.000 And I think that that that must be it, because if I'm a career politician, dude, I don't want to vote against releasing something that is going we if there are monsters among us, we need to know. 0.99

01:40:42.000 Dude, in my neighborhood, we got a scary ass fucking letter. 0.99

01:40:45.000 Sex offender. 1.00

01:40:46.000 If you're you if you're just a uh a basic bitch sex offender, and you move anywhere in Texas, m mass mail goes out with your picture on it and your fucking address. 1.00

01:40:58.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:40:59.000 So why is it that there are these very same people who are working right now, who are out there, nobody knows, who are actual predatory pedophiles, and our government is protecting them.

01:41:12.000 That's the other terrifying thing about the open border in the name of compassion and you know, not stopping people from coming into the country.

01:41:20.000 One thing that they think was a lot of it was sex trafficking kids, kids. 1.00

01:41:25.000 Fucked up. 1.00

01:41:26.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:41:26.000 That there's there's truly evil people in the world, truly evil people in the world that want a child to do terrible things and they'll pay a lot of money to get one. 0.99

01:41:37.000 Dude, this is why I go to Catholic mass now.

01:41:40.000 I need like I It's like if you've never encountered real evil, you wouldn't believe that that would be possible.

01:41:47.000 But then when you find out the numbers of kids that went missing, dude that came across the border, the number of kids where they have no trace of them, they have no idea where they went.

01:41:57.000 We're talking thousands and thousands of kids.

01:41:59.000 Now I'm not saying they all got sex trafficked, but I bet some of them did. 0.74

01:42:05.000 Listen, man, like it's evil.

01:42:07.000 And if it if it's a person where there's no record of them, no one's gonna know they're missing. 0.99

01:42:13.000 You just you could probably there's probably some fucking dark twisted motherfuckers that would give you a lot of bitcoin for something like that. 0.99

01:42:21.000 Dude, I mean, this is the thing, man. 0.99

01:42:24.000 That's so scary.

01:42:25.000 You see those gazelles out there, you see the gazelle out there, there's lions around. 0.99

01:42:29.000 Somehow they're all calm and shit, just eating. 0.99

01:42:32.000 They've had their kids dragged off by the lions, they go back to normal because they don't have long-term memory like we do. 0.99

01:42:37.000 So they don't get freaked out.

01:42:39.000 But it's like what we're talking about here is the lions.

01:42:43.000 We like there like you have to acknowledge, and it's uncomfortable to acknowledge it.

01:42:50.000 And I don't think people acknowledge it enough.

01:42:53.000 There is actual evil in the world.

01:42:57.000 There is an omnipresent force in the world.

01:43:01.000 And this is what I love in the Bible when they say it's powers and principalities.

01:43:05.000 There is a I don't know what you want to call it, an egg regore, I guess you could say, a kind of connective embodiment of what it means to be off the path, what it means to be selfish, what it means to be self-concerned, what it means to rationalize hurting other people.

01:43:22.000 And that that thing has a uh a personality. 1.00

01:43:26.000 It's out there, dude. 1.00

01:43:27.000 It's fucking out there. 0.99

01:43:28.000 And and and it gets it, you know, I like you know, uh y whenever you find yourself talking shit about yourself, whenever you find yourself really down on yourself, or whenever you find yourself really like, you know, like thinking the things that would lead you to killing yourself, that is contact with what I think is a uh for lack of a better word, a demonic entity. 0.99

01:43:56.000 It it beckons everyone towards self-destruction, it beckons you towards self-destruction.

01:44:02.000 I don't know why. 1.00

01:44:03.000 I don't know why it's into that shit. 0.99

01:44:04.000 I just I think it's in the I think there's always gotta be a battle. 0.99

01:44:09.000 I think there always has to be this battle in order for good to prevail and advance, it has to have some sort of conflict.

01:44:20.000 Yeah, it has to be involved in this push and pull, this yin and yang.

01:44:24.000 They've known about it forever.

01:44:26.000 There's this you can't ever get to perfect peace.

01:44:30.000 It's not gonna happen.

01:44:32.000 You know, and the the pursuit of it is crazy.

01:44:35.000 It's like you can get to individual peace.

01:44:37.000 That's what's beautiful.

01:44:39.000 What's beautiful is individual there's I don't remember whose the quote was, but there's this one one of those cool looking Indian guru dudes, and he said, uh, enlightenment is possible in this lifetime.

01:44:50.000 Yeah, well that's that's an actual that's tantric Buddhism.

01:44:54.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:44:55.000 That's a good thing to think of that you can get to a place where you and I don't mean enlightened like better than everybody else, but you're free of all the bullshit. 0.98

01:45:05.000 You're free of all this self-induced hypnotic gaze on TikTok and Instagram reels and arguments on X and threads and fucking blue sky if you're really gone. 0.97

01:45:20.000 Yeah.

01:45:21.000 And you can just be a person and just exist and be in tune with life and with nature and with the people around you, and maybe get out of the city. 1.00

01:45:33.000 Fuck yeah. 0.98

01:45:34.000 Maybe back out a little bit, get to some place that's nice and calm, live with like-minded people. 1.00

01:45:40.000 Yeah, slow down. 0.99

01:45:43.000 Yeah, and and recognize that a lot of what people are wound up about is bullshit. 1.00

01:45:49.000 A lot of is nonsense. 1.00

01:45:51.000 Dude.

01:45:51.000 And a lot of it is being forced on you because they want you to be wound up and you don't have to do that.

01:45:56.000 You can't you don't have to push further and further away from people who disagree.

01:46:01.000 Move closer and closer and talk to them.

01:46:04.000 That's what everybody needs to do.

01:46:05.000 We need to stop this antagonistic us versus them mentality.

01:46:10.000 That's why like I feel I always feel politically homeless.

01:46:13.000 Always.

01:46:14.000 I really do.

01:46:15.000 I feel like a complete political outcast on both sides.

01:46:19.000 Yeah, same.

01:46:20.000 It just I don't want to align with parties.

01:46:22.000 I don't think that's smart.

01:46:24.000 But I do think there's good choices and bad choices for how to run a government based on what I've seen for the bad choices, you know, the results like Portland, where you're like, this is a bad choice.

01:46:36.000 Like what you guys are doing is a bad choice, you know, and maybe when you get to a certain number of people and a certain number of mental health issues, you know, like if you try to take over LA right now, you know.

01:46:48.000 Imagine if you had to be the mayor of LA today. 1.00

01:46:50.000 Like good luck, bitch. 1.00

01:46:52.000 No, thanks. 1.00

01:46:53.000 Good fucking luck. 0.99

01:46:54.000 You have so many things on your docket, so many things you have to handle, and you've got a hundred thousand homeless people. 1.00

01:47:00.000 Yeah.

01:47:01.000 A hundred thousand.

01:47:02.000 Yeah.

01:47:03.000 Maybe that'd be all of California.

01:47:05.000 I don't know.

01:47:05.000 Either way.

01:47:06.000 It's a fuckload. 0.99

01:47:07.000 You got a let's call it a fuckload. 0.99

01:47:09.000 You got a fuckload of insane homeless people on your street, and you gotta figure out how to clean it up, and you've already spent twenty-three billion on it, and no one could figure out where that money went. 0.99

01:47:19.000 Yeah, man. 0.98

01:47:19.000 They spent twenty-three billion making the homeless problem worse. 0.98

01:47:23.000 Imagine if that was any other job. 0.99

01:47:24.000 Imagine if you like fucking brought your car to get it fixed. 0.99

01:47:28.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:47:28.000 You spent five hundred bucks, it came out, it's still fucked up. 1.00

01:47:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:47:31.000 It's more fucked up than it was when you like what did you do? 0.99

01:47:34.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:47:34.000 Well, just give me some more money and I'll make it better. 0.99

01:47:36.000 Like, hey man, you said you were gonna fix this.

01:47:38.000 You said five hundred bucks, I gave you the money. 0.98

01:47:40.000 Yeah, this is fucked up now, beyond repair. 0.99

01:47:43.000 Dude, that's what it is. 0.99

01:47:44.000 It's beyond repair. 0.99

01:47:46.000 It's like you would have to do some sort of radical Republican Rudy Giuliani type shit back when he cleaned up New York. 0.97

01:47:52.000 This is where I go to I've probably yapped about it on this podcast before. 0.97

01:47:57.000 My favorite Jack Cornfield quote: tend to the part of the garden you can touch.

01:48:04.000 Because what happens is it grabs your mind.

01:48:07.000 Now I'm thinking about city politics and poorly quote.

01:48:11.000 That's a beautiful quote.

01:48:12.000 It's a profound quote.

01:48:13.000 And it's in and all of these things invite you to tend either to the entirety of the garden or a part of the garden that you will never go to.

01:48:21.000 And it also requires you to have an opinion publicly on a lot of things.

01:48:27.000 If you get involved in a community of people who have opinions publicly on things, you are required to chime in, Duncan.

01:48:33.000 Absolutely.

01:48:34.000 Duncan, you're awful silent on what do you need me to say?

01:48:37.000 The human rights violations in the Yemen.

01:48:40.000 Yeah, of course. 1.00

01:48:41.000 Fuck those Yemen. 1.00

01:48:42.000 Did you know what's happening in Minnesota? 1.00

01:48:46.000 Probably backed by the CIA. 1.00

01:48:48.000 Well, fuck them. 1.00

01:48:49.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:48:50.000 You and so you get into groupthink, you get locked into this thing, and because humans, we do like to s to move together.

01:48:59.000 We like to dance together.

01:49:01.000 We like to to we like to party together, but we love to get into groups.

01:49:05.000 We're we're designed to we love it.

01:49:08.000 Love to be a part of a tribe.

01:49:09.000 And then what happens is the uh the the your human compassion gets hijacked. 0.99

01:49:15.000 That's where it gets fucked up. 0.85

01:49:16.000 It gets hijacked, and it's like most people legitimately want to help. 0.95

01:49:21.000 And then it's like, okay, I'm gonna tell you how you can help.

01:49:24.000 And some charismatic person starts leading you down a path where you really legitimately wanted to help. 0.98

01:49:32.000 Fuck yeah, I want diversity. 0.99

01:49:33.000 You better believe I do. 1.00

01:49:35.000 And equity.

01:49:36.000 I want everyone to have a fair shot.

01:49:38.000 And inclusivity, yeah.

01:49:40.000 It's I was bullied when I was in God, when they were picking sports team, it wasn't wasn't fun for old D Trussell, let me tell you that. 0.99

01:49:48.000 Nobody wanted to trustle on their team, because I can't catch shit. 0.83

01:49:52.000 So yeah, I I would like to fix that. 0.96

01:49:54.000 The next thing you know, you know, it's it's it's the same model that happens with all kinds of cults. 0.91

01:50:00.000 The next thing you know, you end up having to start subscribing to shit maybe you don't agree with. 0.98

01:50:05.000 And that happens on the right, too. 1.00

01:50:08.000 There's another set of like, yeah, fuck big. 1.00

01:50:12.000 I don't want big government. 0.99

01:50:13.000 Like, no, I mean, it just seems like it's like bureaucracy.

01:50:15.000 We could we just know the ten commandments are in schools, and you're like, slow down.

01:50:19.000 Dude, why are they in public schools?

01:50:21.000 My my uh I just had this guy Ragu Marcus on and he was talking about someone on his podcast told him why don't why is it the Ten Commandments and not the Sermon on the Mount?

01:50:31.000 Like, you know what I mean?

01:50:32.000 If we're gonna put something there, like I think it's Danny Goldman said that if we're gonna put something there, why not put blessed are the meek, blessed are the peacemakers. 0.83

01:50:43.000 You know, why are we put like if we're good if we're doing Bible shit, let's do sermon on the on the thing. 0.76

01:50:50.000 They want rules. 0.98

01:50:51.000 This is God's rules.

01:50:53.000 Look, God's rules, it's on the wall, it's in a piece of vinyl that would uh was printed.

01:51:01.000 Here it is.

01:51:02.000 It's laminated.

01:51:04.000 It it it definitely is like if you like only because if we're if we're going to sort of look at like the like Christianity as the sort of like uh the the flower growing from that entire um lineage.

01:51:21.000 It it does seem like there's just that the idea was that Jesus comes around as a kind of like evolution of these principles, like also as a kind of like god like God is like recognizing like that that the whole flood thing wasn't maybe the best move,

01:51:42.000 and there's a you know and it was also a kind of like it it it it it lays out uh a a really revolutionary, I think a really revolutionary way to live in the world, which is meeting violence with nonviolence.

01:51:59.000 That's crazy.

01:52:00.000 That's crazy, but it does disrupt the in the whole cycle.

01:52:04.000 The cycle depends on you know and it's uh you totally unique voice.

01:52:09.000 But Muhammad was a warlord, right? 0.99

01:52:12.000 Yeah, Jesus was a man of ultimate peace in a time of ultimate chaos.

01:52:17.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:52:17.000 Imagine living two thousand fucking years ago. 0.97

01:52:20.000 No, like and some dude comes along, love your brother as you would love yourself. 0.98

01:52:24.000 Like, what are you talking about?

01:52:25.000 We're at war here. 1.00

01:52:26.000 Shut the fuck up shooting arrows at each other and shit. 1.00

01:52:28.000 The fuck are you talking about? 1.00

01:52:29.000 Or saying You don't need a priest class. 1.00

01:52:31.000 And then, you know, the Romans are in charge, and everyone knows how fucking brutal they were. 0.99

01:52:35.000 And this is all going on while occupied city. 0.97

01:52:38.000 Yes. 0.99

01:52:39.000 It's fucking occupied city. 1.00

01:52:40.000 It's occupied by a great empire. 1.00

01:52:42.000 People are pissed off.

01:52:43.000 They want a revolution. 1.00

01:52:44.000 They want to fight back against the fucking Romans. 1.00

01:52:47.000 Here's this very charismatic person who can reach into a tomb and pull out dead people and curing people's blindness by spitting in his hand, rubbing mud in his hands and putting it on their fucking eyes, curing lepers. 1.00

01:52:58.000 And you're like, come on, baby. 0.99

01:53:00.000 All you gotta do is tell us to fucking f overthrow these Romans. 1.00

01:53:04.000 If you can raise the dead, I bet you can throw fireballs. 1.00

01:53:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:53:09.000 And then the answer is like uh to to all of that is like no. 0.99

01:53:14.000 No, we're not doing that shit. 0.99

01:53:17.000 And then what happens? 1.00

01:53:19.000 You get murdered and murdered in front of everybody.

01:53:22.000 It's a beautiful, beautiful thing, and it and it really to me, it's like, God, this is just the medicine for the times, man. 1.00

01:53:30.000 It's just the medicine for the times because holy shit. 0.81

01:53:34.000 Like the last is our default mode, Duncan. 0.98

01:53:38.000 Uh you mean the bangs and the and I think the there's two things that really accentuated it.

01:53:44.000 The algorithm for sure, but also the lockdowns.

01:53:47.000 I think the lockdown shifted a lot of people.

01:53:50.000 I think it broke it broke, I genuinely think they broke a lot of people psychologically.

01:53:55.000 And um it made people just a little less uh kind, you know.

01:54:00.000 Did you get they got real used to being hostile?

01:54:03.000 And that was the other tribal thing, like the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.

01:54:06.000 And unfortunately, most people were required to get vaccinated because they have jobs and they have to travel or whatever it is, you know, a lot of people reluctantly. 0.89

01:54:15.000 But you know, it made made us like more tense and more shitty. 0.91

01:54:19.000 Yeah. 0.89

01:54:20.000 It's like this is not 2016.

01:54:22.000 2016 was a fun time. 0.93

01:54:25.000 It was uh silly.

01:54:27.000 Like you it was it was different, you know. 0.79

01:54:29.000 It wasn't it wasn't so overwhelmed by constant strife. 0.56

01:54:33.000 You know, it the woke stuff had not reached its apex of ridiculousness.

01:54:38.000 It was we were just, you know. 0.96

01:54:40.000 We were silly, but we were, you know. 0.74

01:54:43.000 People were getting a little weird. 0.85

01:54:45.000 It wasn't terrible.

01:54:47.000 And then when 2020 came around, man, and they started having those George Floyd riots, and they were lighting cop cars up in LA.

01:54:54.000 I was like, okay.

01:54:56.000 Yeah, man.

01:54:57.000 This is this is where we're going.

01:54:59.000 We're going in this direction.

01:55:00.000 This is this is really not good.

01:55:02.000 Not good.

01:55:03.000 Really not good.

01:55:05.000 Not good.

01:55:06.000 And the division is just like never been wider.

01:55:10.000 The division between the right and the left in this country, the division in a lot of ways between black people and white people, and the narratives that you get in the news are just feeding into that over and over and over again.

01:55:21.000 Yeah.

01:55:22.000 Yeah, man.

01:55:22.000 I know.

01:55:23.000 And the way people react to things in the news, like the way that lady who got stabbed in Charlotte on the on the train, you know, that lady.

01:55:29.000 Oh, yeah, of course.

01:55:31.000 Ukrainian lady.

01:55:32.000 Uh, she's a refugee from Ukraine.

01:55:34.000 She escapes the war and just gets randomly stabbed by some guy who had gotten out multiple times, and he had been treated in a rehab center that one of the so find the this the story behind that.

01:55:49.000 Because I I want to know, like, there there's some accusations that I don't know if they're necessarily true. 0.63

01:55:53.000 I don't want to say it, but the the whole thing is this guy had been doing horrible shit and getting out of jail over and over and over again and then he stabbed this lady on the the train. 0.83

01:56:04.000 And he's one of like countless examples of that happening. 0.98

01:56:07.000 That keeps happening.

01:56:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:56:09.000 People who you easily could have rehabilitated or at least kept out of the public zone, keep getting released and doing these fucking things. 0.99

01:56:19.000 And it's almost like again, if you wanted to destroy society, you would make people terrified. 0.98

01:56:26.000 You would uh cause massive amounts of crime, and then you would offer a military solution to stabilize it all.

01:56:32.000 The two I just had Bishop Ra Robert Barron on my podcast, the Catholic ship on?

01:56:37.000 Oh, dude, I had a bishop on, and he's awesome.

01:56:40.000 And let me tell you, after I had the bishop on, in my whole career of podcasting, people have never come at me.

01:56:48.000 I've had Satanists on, I've had all kinds of just uh Riley Reed.

01:56:54.000 You know, I've had all kinds of people on my podcast.

01:56:56.000 Right. 0.98

01:56:57.000 The only time I really started getting some shit was because I had a bishop on who said everything he said was very sweet. 0.99

01:57:07.000 And like, oh and I asked him right away. 0.99

01:57:09.000 I was like, Why are Christians the most um persecuted people on the planet right now? 1.00

01:57:13.000 Like if Christians get fucked up. 1.00

01:57:15.000 And he he talked about it a little bit. 1.00

01:57:17.000 And then right after that, that Catholic fucking school that Catholic at mass at mass. 1.00

01:57:24.000 The that the fucking trans shooter came blue just shot people while they were praying. 1.00

01:57:29.000 And then Charlie fucking Kirk gets shot. 1.00

01:57:32.000 And then not to mention all over the world, like Christians getting slaughtered. 1.00

01:57:37.000 And but his answer to it was so measured.

01:57:41.000 And like, whoa, dude, like I'm more perturbed.

01:57:44.000 And I've been to mass like maybe five times, but what he said, Satan.

01:57:49.000 I he said Satan is known as the accuser and the scatterer, the scatterer.

01:57:57.000 And so if you want to identify what if you look at what's happening in from those using those terms, is it dividing?

01:58:08.000 Is it scattering?

01:58:10.000 If so, it's satanic in the sense that it's turning neighbor upon neighbor, brother upon brother, uh son upon father, and it's ga it's scattering all of us, you know. 0.99

01:58:24.000 It's like what what could be a cohesive human family is being just scattered to the fucking winds. 0.98

01:58:32.000 Do you know about that? 1.00

01:58:33.000 Um what what country is it, Jamie, where there's uh group of Christians are being slaughtered.

01:58:39.000 There there's a country where uh thousands of Christians have been killed.

01:58:44.000 Oh, it's so messed up.

01:58:45.000 Yeah.

01:58:46.000 It's so messed up. 0.99

01:58:47.000 They're literally going door to door and killing Christians. 0.98

01:58:49.000 Yeah.

01:58:50.000 I I mean, I think that is that isn't that happening in Syria a little bit too.

01:58:54.000 I don't know what country this is, but this is like recent news.

01:58:56.000 Didn't a Catholic church get bombed in Palestine too?

01:58:59.000 I could be wrong about that.

01:59:00.000 Slow down.

01:59:01.000 I just I really that happened too?

01:59:04.000 Can you I'm sorry, before it's before let's find out that.

01:59:07.000 Find out that one first.

01:59:09.000 Before I could be wrong about the Palestine thing, I don't know.

01:59:13.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:59:14.000 This is um this is a a recent thing that they were talking about.

01:59:20.000 Fifty thousand.

01:59:21.000 But where but is it's one country.

01:59:23.000 Oh, Nigeria, that's what it is, right? 1.00

01:59:25.000 Okay.

01:59:25.000 So you can you scroll down.

01:59:29.000 Is it 50,000 in Nigeria?

01:59:31.000 This was said the government denies the claim.

01:59:33.000 Oh my god.

01:59:34.000 I deny the claim too if I was in the Nigerian government.

01:59:37.000 But is it just Ted Cruz saying this? 1.00

01:59:39.000 Like, did he pull this number out of his ass? 0.99

01:59:41.000 The what I had heard I don't know, I really don't know, but what I had heard was it was 7,000 or somewhere around then. 0.99

01:59:47.000 But maybe that was the beginning of it.

01:59:48.000 Bill Mars says it's happening.

01:59:50.000 Well, there you go.

01:59:52.000 Um since 2009, over 50,000 Christians in Nigeria have been massacred.

01:59:56.000 18,000 churches and 2,000 Christian schools have been destroyed. 1.00

02:00:00.000 Holy fuck, man. 1.00

02:00:01.000 Dude. 1.00

02:00:02.000 That's crazy.

02:00:03.000 Yeah, man. 0.92

02:00:04.000 That's that's like I mean, what we're people are like going to Catholic churches and shooting people praying. 1.00

02:00:10.000 Like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:00:13.000 Listen to what they say. 0.99

02:00:14.000 Um Nigeria deserves solidaria solidarity in its fight against terror, not careless rhetoric that fuels misunderstanding.

02:00:22.000 This is the Nigerian president saying.

02:00:24.000 So the truth remains simple.

02:00:26.000 Nigeria is not witnessing a Christian genocide, it is confronting terrorism that targets everyone. 0.98

02:00:31.000 Christian terrorists. 1.00

02:00:33.000 But is a similar amount happening to Muslim churches? 0.99

02:00:37.000 I don't know.

02:00:40.000 Yeah, I don't know either.

02:00:42.000 You can Google like a go go put it into um perplexity.

02:00:46.000 Ask how many Islamic um mosques have been destroyed in Nigeria since 2009.

02:00:54.000 That's a good answer.

02:00:54.000 This is a good question.

02:00:55.000 That's a good question.

02:00:56.000 Solid question.

02:00:57.000 That's a good question.

02:00:59.000 How many Islamic mosques have been destroyed in Nigeria since 2009? 0.99

02:01:10.000 This is fucking cool. 0.99

02:01:12.000 It's dope. 0.99

02:01:15.000 Oh, well because you made up a number, bro.

02:01:18.000 Can you fix it?

02:01:21.000 Ugh.

02:01:23.000 Okay.

02:01:24.000 Let's see.

02:01:28.000 Yeah, significant destruction of mosques.

02:01:30.000 Good question.

02:01:31.000 Yeah.

02:01:31.000 Okay.

02:01:32.000 There's been significant destruction of mosques in Nigeria, particularly due to Boko Haram insurgency and other violent conflicts.

02:01:39.000 Boko Haram actively uh in actively primarily oh, active, excuse me, primarily in northeastern Nigeria has deliberately targeted both mosques and churches during attacks, killing worshippers and destroying places of worship.

02:01:53.000 Seventeen thousand churches.

02:01:55.000 Yeah.

02:01:55.000 But what does it say about how many mosques the worst competition of all time?

02:02:00.000 It says religious buildings destroyed hundreds of religious buildings, including mosques.

02:02:06.000 Specific numbers indicate while 17,000 churches were destroyed since 2009.

02:02:11.000 The destruction of mosques was also significant with dozens of mosque attacks reported in various incidents by Boko Haram and related groups.

02:02:20.000 That's a big difference, though.

02:02:21.000 Churches destroyed.

02:02:22.000 Dozens of mosques attacked, but 17,000 churches destroyed.

02:02:28.000 Seventeen thousand churches destroyed.

02:02:30.000 So it seems like they're all experiencing terrorism.

02:02:32.000 That is true.

02:02:34.000 But it is uh much more pointed in the direction of the Christians.

02:02:38.000 Dude, I mean, this g has to give you pause.

02:02:42.000 Because like I, you know, any secularist out there, any anti-Christian person out there, and they're there's a surprising amount, a surprising amount, horrified that I talked to this bishop.

02:02:53.000 Do you think of it as the in the worst aspects of Christianity that you see, right?

02:02:57.000 Just like you think of Antifa as the worst aspects of being a progressive or a liberal.

02:03:03.000 When you look at what Christianity is in America, it's a lot of things that are awesome, but it's also televangelists. 0.99

02:03:10.000 It's these motherfuckers on TV talking to poor dumb people and conning them into sending twenty dollars so that their bills are gonna be paid. 1.00

02:03:18.000 True. 1.00

02:03:19.000 They tell them that.

02:03:20.000 They tell them if you give me if you give me whatever you can give me, God has promised a tenfold return.

02:03:28.000 A tenfold return.

02:03:30.000 You give me two hundred dollars, you will get thousands.

02:03:34.000 Thousands.

02:03:37.000 They just start going off.

02:03:38.000 Give me ten thousand, I will bring you a hundred thousand.

02:03:42.000 But you the the problem, and listen, I get it, man. 0.99

02:03:44.000 People are dumb and they fall for it, and then they think that this fucking guy who has this giant megachurch, these people that have they've got stadiums filled with their worshippers, they're flying around in private jets driving in Rolls Royce. 0.99

02:03:56.000 They think of that as Christianity too. 1.00

02:03:57.000 And then they think of the nutty people that believe in demons.

02:04:00.000 Yeah. 0.63

02:04:00.000 You know, the Satan worshiping kind, and they think of all kinds of weird stuff when it comes to Christianity. 0.63

02:04:07.000 It's slippery.

02:04:08.000 But that to this is there's a there's a a scientific approach here that you could take, which is go go to I can't believe I'm about to say this, go to a Catholic mass, and and the last what's interesting is all the masses are the same around the planet.

02:04:26.000 The last one I went to, you know what they were saying?

02:04:30.000 Help people, help the poor.

02:04:32.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

02:04:33.000 They weren't there's nobody's dancing around, no jet skis, there's no you know what I mean, no guy in a glittery fucking vest. 0.94

02:04:40.000 It was just it was it was really just talking about how important it is to help poor people. 0.94

02:04:46.000 That's it.

02:04:47.000 Some like, you know, some uh a choir singing, like none of that was happening, and really when you think about the fact that how many Catholic churches there are that day on planet Earth all the people representing all levels of economic status were being told you can do more to help poor people than you're doing right now.

02:05:13.000 All over the planet.

02:05:14.000 Right, but it's also connected to a lot of horrible stuff that was done to kids.

02:05:19.000 And that's the problem with Catholic church, period. 0.95

02:05:23.000 Dude, I talk about it's not it's not all of them, but it's there's a number of them. 0.99

02:05:28.000 Fucked up. 0.90

02:05:29.000 Have you ever seen that documentary? 0.99

02:05:32.000 I think it's called Hear No Evil.

02:05:35.000 No, I haven't.

02:05:37.000 I think that's what it's called.

02:05:39.000 But it's essentially following one of these people.

02:05:43.000 Dude, it's horrible.

02:05:45.000 It's horrible.

02:05:46.000 It's horrible.

02:05:46.000 It's so dark.

02:05:47.000 It's horrible.

02:05:48.000 It's so dark.

02:05:49.000 And it was uh, you know, like that was one of the criticisms, rightful criticisms about Ratzinger.

02:05:55.000 He was involved in moving people around.

02:05:58.000 Messed up.

02:05:58.000 Yeah.

02:05:59.000 I mean, he was wanted for crimes against humanity by some countryhood.

02:06:03.000 But then you talk to Catholics about it, which I have, of course, and their response is never like defending it. 1.00

02:06:11.000 They're all like, fuck that. 0.99

02:06:13.000 Like there's the other ideas that like the uh Catholics all agree on like this or that. 1.00

02:06:18.000 They fucking don't, and they hate it. 0.99

02:06:20.000 Don't you think that it's kind of crazy to if someone wants to be a priest, you can't have a life. 1.00

02:06:26.000 You can't have a wife, you can't have a family. 1.00

02:06:29.000 You can't you have to be celibate.

02:06:31.000 I think that alone, that rule that they institute alone made it kooky.

02:06:37.000 It made it really crazy.

02:06:38.000 Because like you're only inviting people to be a priest that are willing to go through that.

02:06:43.000 Whereas you meet preachers, and you know, you go to a good church and there's a guy who's a preacher and he's a really charismatic person, he really believes in the Lord and he's good, he's really entertaining, got a wife and a family, tell stories about his family.

02:06:57.000 Like that's a lot more normal and engaging and it makes more sense.

02:07:02.000 Totally.

02:07:03.000 The this this whole celibacy thing is crazy.

02:07:06.000 And it didn't it was a rule that somebody instituted because the priests were banging all the ladies. 1.00

02:07:14.000 They don't look at it as a rule, it's they call it a discipline.

02:07:16.000 Uh that's how they officially have to be disciplined.

02:07:19.000 Well, I mean, and and that doesn't nuts because for sure that discipline's being taken out on some people that didn't want it, and that's part of the problem.

02:07:26.000 But then there's all this messed up, secret babies that nuns have with the city. 1.00

02:07:30.000 One of the popes, one of the popes.

02:07:35.000 Because I talked to a priest about it, and he was telling me how many did he have?

02:07:38.000 I don't know.

02:07:39.000 I was like, I can't remember.

02:07:42.000 But it's it's nuts.

02:07:43.000 It's nuts to require, and it's gonna r it's gonna like it's gonna attract sexual deviance.

02:07:48.000 A hundred percent.

02:07:48.000 You gotta be careful out there, man.

02:07:50.000 And it's like any time there's hierarchy, anytime there's bureaucracy, anytime there's organization, especially anytime there's uh mysticism, it's gonna be infiltrated.

02:07:59.000 That's an inevitability.

02:08:01.000 And then and my hope Imagine if they just opened it up where they said, Listen, we're gonna drop that.

02:08:06.000 You guys can have wives now. 1.00

02:08:08.000 And those poor dork's gonna start dating at 40. 1.00

02:08:11.000 That's a good movie. 0.85

02:08:12.000 Yeah, it would be a good movie if they changed it and like priests is like always wanted to find a wife and have a family before it's too late.

02:08:19.000 Oh my god.

02:08:20.000 No idea what I I do agree with you though.

02:08:22.000 Never even seen a tit.

02:08:23.000 Do you need that?

02:08:25.000 He's a real priest, like really, really, really got into it when he was young, decided when he was a boy.

02:08:31.000 I'm gonna keep my thoughts pure wild.

02:08:33.000 All for Jesus.

02:08:34.000 Never seen a boob. 0.99

02:08:36.000 Never never touched an erect nipple. 0.97

02:08:39.000 Never felt it. 0.84

02:08:40.000 Oh never.

02:08:41.000 Never kissed a lady who wants to kiss you back. 0.93

02:08:45.000 Laped up squirt.

02:08:48.000 Poor boy.

02:08:49.000 Dude, it's praying to Jesus, and then all of a sudden at 40, some comes along.

02:08:53.000 Like Steve Crowell in that movie.

02:08:54.000 40-year-old Virgin.

02:08:56.000 Oh, dude.

02:08:57.000 It really I don't know, man.

02:08:58.000 Like, I don't that part of it to me is always seemed like, you know, how can you this is the other thing, man, with the declining birth rates and people not being able to have kids or not wanting to have kids because it's too fucking expensive.

02:09:11.000 It's like it's worrisome to me.

02:09:13.000 Right.

02:09:14.000 Because ever since I had kids, you like have a whole different connection to the world than when you don't have kids. 1.00

02:09:22.000 And it humanizes you, it grounds you in the earth, all your chips are on the fucking table, man. 0.99

02:09:28.000 And and it's intense. 0.99

02:09:30.000 And I do think like as a spiritual guide to people, I I it does make me scratch my chin.

02:09:37.000 It's like you have never been around a third trimester pregnant person who just found out there might be mice in the house. 0.99

02:09:47.000 You don't know what that's like, man.

02:09:51.000 Ooh, you don't want to be around that.

02:09:52.000 That's collie, man. 0.99

02:09:54.000 You don't want to be around that, and all the other things that go around along with being married and having kids and all the heights and lows and all the shit you learn about yourself. 0.96

02:10:03.000 You d I do feel like you're by not letting them have families, you're kind of keeping them out of this part of the like human experience that that is really good for people. 0.64

02:10:18.000 Like you need that.

02:10:19.000 You need to know what that's like.

02:10:20.000 It's important.

02:10:21.000 Yeah.

02:10:22.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:10:24.000 I agree.

02:10:24.000 It helps you grow as a human.

02:10:27.000 You it changes your perspective on things.

02:10:29.000 You know, one of the things that people always say, I don't want to have kids.

02:10:31.000 You know, I think bringing a child into this world today is is a terrible idea.

02:10:36.000 I'm like people had people before they figured out doors.

02:10:41.000 That's why we're here.

02:10:43.000 We're we're here.

02:10:45.000 People had babies on dirt floors in caves, and that's why we're here.

02:10:51.000 Right. 1.00

02:10:51.000 Yeah, why would you want to have a child today with all the fucking books and medicine and shit? 1.00

02:10:55.000 Like, why would you want to do that? 0.99

02:10:57.000 Why would you with all the education and all the interesting people that are alive?

02:11:01.000 Do you like people?

02:11:03.000 I love people.

02:11:04.000 Yeah.

02:11:05.000 I could never be a hermit.

02:11:06.000 I love people.

02:11:07.000 Me too.

02:11:07.000 I love hanging out.

02:11:09.000 Like I love having fun.

02:11:11.000 I love meeting people that are fun.

02:11:14.000 I love it.

02:11:15.000 The only way that happens is if people make people.

02:11:17.000 Yeah.

02:11:18.000 You have to make cool people.

02:11:19.000 Yeah.

02:11:19.000 Make cool people that other people want to hang out with.

02:11:21.000 Yeah.

02:11:22.000 And, you know, that sounds overly simplified because it is.

02:11:26.000 Yeah, for sure, there's some circumstances where that's not an option. 0.98

02:11:30.000 And it's not possible, and you're you're living in a fucking terrible state. 0.97

02:11:33.000 Uh terrible state of life, right? 0.99

02:11:35.000 You could be in the the worst, most abusive environments.

02:11:39.000 And that's the real problem in this world.

02:11:42.000 Yeah.

02:11:42.000 Is that we allow those places to exist while we think about things that are just bananas.

02:11:49.000 Think about like wealth extraction and pulling stuff out of the ocean and figuring out how to do this and that and spending all this money on this and that and defense and this and that and then completely ignoring the people on your timeline that are in life or death struggle through no fault of their own.

02:12:09.000 They were just born into the wrong family in the wrong neighborhood in the wrong timeline. 1.00

02:12:14.000 And they're fucked. 1.00

02:12:15.000 And the only difference between you and them is you got lucky and you were born in a good timeline. 1.00

02:12:20.000 Yep.

02:12:21.000 And your life, you got lucky.

02:12:23.000 You live with nice people.

02:12:24.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:12:25.000 But they got fucked. 1.00

02:12:26.000 And if we allow that to continue to happen, you're always gonna have the same kind of problems over and over and over again. 0.99

02:12:35.000 There's gotta be a way to at least tilt that in a positive direction and build on it and actually have businesses that are financially incentivized for success.

02:12:49.000 Yeah.

02:12:50.000 Like they make more money if people get jobs, they make more money if people get good grades, they make more money.

02:12:56.000 If they could figure out a way to transform crime-ridden, gang ridden neighborhoods into places where people are thriving and happy.

02:13:04.000 There's gotta be a way to be a way.

02:13:06.000 There's gotta be a way people exit like that place that I was telling you about in Oakland, that video, where they're driving through the shanty towns, and then immediately they get to this totally clean environment that's you know run by different politicians. 0.74

02:13:18.000 That this it's there's gotta be a way to do that.

02:13:21.000 There's gotta be a way to engineer our society in a more positive direction.

02:13:27.000 There's gotta be.

02:13:28.000 Dude, the first step is is you've got to turn your back on the state.

02:13:37.000 You cannot believe the state is gonna do this because I think people are waiting for a top-down solution.

02:13:44.000 Right.

02:13:44.000 They're waiting for man, what's his name?

02:13:46.000 The New York dude, or they're waiting for someone to like sign the right series of documents and everything's fine. 0.99

02:13:52.000 It's in in meanwhile, they're like in their fucking high rise with crusted jazz on their belly, posting shit on Reddit. 0.98

02:14:01.000 It's like really, it's this is gonna be all hands on deck. 0.98

02:14:06.000 It's like maybe the federal government is gonna figure out the perfect way to educate and house and clothes and all this stuff.

02:14:14.000 And that'll be great.

02:14:15.000 But in the meantime, every single one of us, every single one of us could do something, not a big deal, not a big thing, but something.

02:14:25.000 And instead of it, like it's like when they say the fed the government shut down, the national parks, there's trash.

02:14:32.000 I saw a picture of trash around a dumpster. 0.99

02:14:35.000 And it's like, uh any one of us could drive a truck up to that fucking dumpster and clean up that trash. 1.00

02:14:43.000 Why are we waiting for the federal government to do this shit? 1.00

02:14:46.000 That's the problem. 1.00

02:14:47.000 It's the federal government's got us all hypnotized into thinking we need them to do these things.

02:14:54.000 And I would, by the way, that'd be great.

02:14:56.000 I think people living next to an open-air drug Market slash mental asylum would be quite pleased if the taxes that they were paying went towards getting these people medical care somewhere far away from their apartment.

02:15:11.000 Yeah.

02:15:12.000 Not gonna happen.

02:15:15.000 You can count on it.

02:15:16.000 So in the meantime, what do we do?

02:15:19.000 And and you know, that's I as I was like watching Doom Scroll and looking at all the like the Oakland videos and stuff. 0.99

02:15:26.000 This dude's interviewing people out there, soup kitchens giving out food, and boy, that'll make you feel like a piece of shit. 0.99

02:15:34.000 This guy's just helping. 1.00

02:15:35.000 This is nobody, this is like you'll never this guy's not filming themselves, taking fucking selfies telling the stupid story at the time he gave up sandwiches someone with his kid like I did in the beginning. 0.99

02:15:45.000 This is just people out there, they interview this guy. 0.99

02:15:47.000 Why what are you why are you doing this?

02:15:49.000 And he's like, I mean, it just seems like that's what you're supposed to do.

02:15:53.000 It's so basic and simple.

02:15:55.000 And that exists.

02:15:57.000 That exists.

02:15:58.000 And that doesn't get highlighted.

02:15:59.000 You don't get that in your algorithm.

02:16:01.000 No, you don't get it in the world.

02:16:02.000 If you got more of that in your your algorithm, you'd realize, like, oh, there's good people out there still.

02:16:07.000 And I'm one of them, and you can help.

02:16:09.000 Like, and you don't have to film it, you don't have to do it for any reason.

02:16:12.000 And dude, the moment we don't even know what would happen. 0.81

02:16:17.000 If under the yoke of whatever the regime happens to be, it's instead of flapping our fucking like uh fireworks in front of ice, you know. 0.66

02:16:31.000 If like all of us were just going out there and like, I don't know, I don't know. 0.98

02:16:35.000 I can bear I I suck at all most things, dudes, but it's like it's not that hard to like give water to people out there, and and yeah, some of them are fucking terrifying. 0.99

02:16:44.000 They seem like they're possessed by demons. 0.98

02:16:46.000 I'm surprised you don't believe in demons.

02:16:48.000 But but uh but you know what's not that I don't.

02:16:53.000 You believe in demons?

02:16:55.000 Uh I'm agnostic on the possibility of demons.

02:16:58.000 I definitely believe in good and evil though.

02:17:00.000 I believe there's uh I believe evil thoughts can get into people's minds, and then if you follow that down a long life, you can get to a pretty evil place.

02:17:12.000 Yeah.

02:17:12.000 That's how you get to a dictator.

02:17:13.000 Yeah.

02:17:14.000 You know?

02:17:15.000 I think that's real.

02:17:16.000 And I think, especially if you're involved in evil acts.

02:17:19.000 So say imagine you start off in some sort of military, and uh you're in a foreign country and you're killing a bunch of people, and then you take over a town, and then you know, things escalate, and you continue your career doing horrible things for decade after decade, and then you start to get into power, and then you get into political power, and then you start running the country, and then you overthrow the government. 0.98

02:17:41.000 Yeah, and then you become a dictator, and then you do horrible shit. 1.00

02:17:46.000 Horrible shit. 1.00

02:17:47.000 You're Saddam Hussein, right? 1.00

02:17:49.000 You have your sons are feeding women to dogs in the basement.

02:17:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:17:53.000 The real horrible, horrible, horrible shit. 1.00

02:17:56.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:17:56.000 That is that is evil. 1.00

02:17:58.000 Like I had uh Jack Carr, the author on the podcast yesterday.

02:18:03.000 What did he write?

02:18:04.000 He wrote uh the terminalist, that Amazon series.

02:18:07.000 It's uh he's he's a great uh it's the one that Chris Pratt plays in that Amazon series.

02:18:13.000 Oh, okay.

02:18:14.000 It's really good.

02:18:15.000 But the books are amazing. 0.60

02:18:16.000 He's uh and he's a super fucking cool guy.

02:18:19.000 Anyway, he said, you know, he went to those palaces because he was a seal and he was in the war, and he went to those palaces and says, You can feel the evil.

02:18:28.000 He said, You feel it.

02:18:30.000 He said, especially the kids, the sons, oh Day and Kuse, they were monsters, serial killer monsters. 0.96

02:18:37.000 Jesus Christ were the sons of the dictator. 0.99

02:18:40.000 They would find women while they were getting married, they would take the woman, they'd rape the woman, and then feed them to their dogs. 1.00

02:18:46.000 They had these dogs that they would feed people to. 1.00

02:18:50.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:18:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:52.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

02:18:54.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:18:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:55.000 I think that that scene in Game of Thrones, like you remember that scene in Game of Thrones where he would do that. 0.98

02:19:02.000 There was one of the evil dudes that cut that guy's dick off and feed people to his dogs. 0.99

02:19:07.000 That's a real thing, man. 1.00

02:19:08.000 They re really did that.

02:19:11.000 Yeah.

02:19:11.000 God that is 100% evil.

02:19:15.000 Now, is that demons inside of him?

02:19:17.000 I don't know.

02:19:18.000 Um I tend to think I think I tend to think evil's in all of us.

02:19:24.000 It's just does it get cultivated?

02:19:26.000 And what what cultivates it?

02:19:28.000 What makes it what makes it?

02:19:30.000 You know, over time over a long history of seeing and doing horrible things.

02:19:36.000 I think you can get to a place of unbelievable evil.

02:19:39.000 Yeah.

02:19:39.000 I mean, think about Genghis Khan.

02:19:41.000 Think about what that guy did while he was alive where he killed 10% of the population of Earth.

02:19:45.000 Right.

02:19:46.000 I mean, if that's not evil, like what is?

02:19:49.000 Like what is what is it?

02:19:51.000 I mean, they would they would light people on fire and use them as catapults to light houses on fire.

02:19:58.000 So they'd put them in catapults and launched corpses, flaming corpses, and they would land on these thatched roofs and start the houses on fire.

02:20:07.000 Right.

02:20:09.000 Wow.

02:20:09.000 They would take people and they would kidnap them, right?

02:20:13.000 So they would sack a town and they'd take all the people, and everybody that gave in and surrendered, they would put them at the front of the line, and then they would start attacking the city, and all the people would just get crushed by the enemy.

02:20:24.000 So by the time they just pushed them forward.

02:20:27.000 So they would get thousands of people in front of them and push them into a city.

02:20:30.000 And those people are just getting hacked apart.

02:20:33.000 Because there's there's people that are trying to stop the siege, and those are the people that are getting killed.

02:20:37.000 And so they're like human shields.

02:20:40.000 And then they're trampling over their dead bodies to destroy the entire city.

02:20:44.000 Right.

02:20:45.000 That happens.

02:20:45.000 That's not evil.

02:20:46.000 If that's not evil, like what's evil?

02:20:48.000 Like for to them, that was their destiny.

02:20:51.000 And that happens.

02:20:52.000 Jengis Khan's one of one of his quotes was crazy.

02:20:55.000 It was you must have I'm paraphrasing it.

02:20:58.000 We could find it, I'm sure.

02:21:00.000 You must have done something horribly wrong for God to send me.

02:21:06.000 That was that letter to the Pope.

02:21:08.000 Isn't that the letter he wrote to the Pope?

02:21:10.000 I don't know.

02:21:10.000 I don't know who it wrote it to.

02:21:11.000 One of them wrote a real take down.

02:21:13.000 See if you can find that.

02:21:14.000 It's but it's from like the the Do you know that the what they know about the Mongols came from like one diary that they found in like the eighteen hundreds?

02:21:24.000 Like there was so little known about Genghis Khan.

02:21:27.000 They don't know where he was buried.

02:21:28.000 They still don't know.

02:21:29.000 They have no idea.

02:21:30.000 They kill he they killed the people that took him to there so that they couldn't tell, and then more people came and killed the people that killed the people.

02:21:38.000 Right. 0.57

02:21:38.000 So that they couldn't tell. 0.57

02:21:39.000 Right. 0.97

02:21:40.000 I d I think didn't they kill themselves after killing the people too? 0.99

02:21:43.000 Like it was just like a something nutty like that. 1.00

02:21:46.000 Just it's like fucking wild. 1.00

02:21:48.000 Fucking wild. 1.00

02:21:49.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:21:49.000 I saw what is that quote that he had about God sending me. 0.99

02:21:55.000 It's when you think about who that motherfucker was, I mean he's the motherfucker of all motherfuckers. 1.00

02:22:01.000 I mean the greatest warlord of all time. 1.00

02:22:04.000 He is the goat. 0.98

02:22:06.000 Yeah, man. 0.96

02:22:07.000 To the point where people don't even consider him evil, right?

02:22:09.000 You don't people don't think of Genghis Khan as evil.

02:22:12.000 You think of his Hitler as evil.

02:22:13.000 Right, but Genghis Khan's just this conqueror guy.

02:22:16.000 Right.

02:22:16.000 But meanwhile, he killed so many people million people.

02:22:20.000 So many people.

02:22:20.000 He changed the carbon footprint of Earth.

02:22:24.000 When they do like when they look at the carbon footprint of Earth, during his time, cities re-greened.

02:22:32.000 You it's that there's a noticeable amount.

02:22:35.000 Yeah.

02:22:35.000 Because cities were destroyed and the the the nature just absorbed them and trees grew in their place.

02:22:42.000 I am the punishment of God.

02:22:44.000 If you'd not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.

02:22:51.000 Jesus.

02:22:52.000 I am the punishment of God.

02:22:54.000 Imagine if that's how you justify just wholesale slaughter of everybody in a city and stacking the bones up.

02:23:02.000 Stacking the bones up so high that the Shah of Charisma sent uh an envoy to go and talk to uh whoever was running Jin China and along the way they thought they saw uh a a fr like a snow capped mountain and as they got closer they realized it was a stack of bones. 0.99

02:23:22.000 God damn it. 0.96

02:23:23.000 It was a million people. 1.00

02:23:24.000 They killed a million people and stacked them in the middle of the city.

02:23:27.000 God, that must have taken forever.

02:23:29.000 Forever.

02:23:29.000 Whose job is that?

02:23:31.000 Bro, they killed everyone.

02:23:33.000 On the road, they had to abandon their wagons because the wagons were stuck in the muck of decaying people.

02:23:40.000 They couldn't pull the wagons anymore because all the roads had deteriorated into muck.

02:23:47.000 Yeah, you know what? 0.99

02:23:48.000 When you look back at shit like that, we're doing pretty good right now. 0.99

02:23:51.000 We're doing pretty good right now. 0.99

02:23:52.000 We're doing pretty good.

02:23:54.000 That that is That is horrifying.

02:23:58.000 If that's not evil, what's evil?

02:23:59.000 Well, that is evil.

02:24:00.000 That's evil.

02:24:01.000 That is evil.

02:24:02.000 And that what's you know what's interesting is people I think like aro around the world, regardless of the culture that you're raised in, we all have a similar sense of evil versus good.

02:24:14.000 That's where it gets curious. 0.99

02:24:15.000 It's like people it seems like people have a sense of like it isn't good, for example, to like fuck a dog corpse. 0.99

02:24:24.000 I bet you could go all around the planet. 0.99

02:24:26.000 Most people say that's bad.

02:24:27.000 Most people are gonna do that. 1.00

02:24:29.000 Don't don't fuck dog corpses. 1.00

02:24:30.000 Like if you see a dead dog, don't fuck its ass. 1.00

02:24:33.000 And if you see that a guy's doing that, you go, That guy's a problem. 1.00

02:24:36.000 That guy's a problem.

02:24:36.000 You know, we're gonna have to take that guy out.

02:24:39.000 Don't hire him.

02:24:39.000 Yeah.

02:24:40.000 And so there seems to be built into us a sense of like harmony and how to do it and what it looks like.

02:24:46.000 And then there's examples like you just described.

02:24:49.000 It's like that's one of the things we can also do.

02:24:52.000 Yeah.

02:24:53.000 Whoo, that would have been fun to be gingiscon though, right?

02:24:56.000 Could you imagine being in that posse and knowing what you're gonna do? 0.98

02:25:00.000 And also just the fucking the fact that some uns insane percentage of people worldwide have his DNA because he had that many kids. 0.99

02:25:10.000 When he's not killing, he's just fucking that's all he lived for. 1.00

02:25:13.000 He just lived to fuck and to kill. 1.00

02:25:15.000 How did he have time to plan war? 1.00

02:25:17.000 I mean, he was a brilliant strategist.

02:25:19.000 That's what the crazy thing is. 1.00

02:25:20.000 Like they they did a lot of sneaky shit. 0.99

02:25:22.000 Like they led people, they had like small packs that would lead people into the mountains, and then they would have a giant pack of people waiting for 'em, and then just fucking come down off the hills and engulf them. 1.00

02:25:33.000 They did brilliant shit, man. 0.99

02:25:35.000 They waited people out. 1.00

02:25:36.000 Is there a they drank the the blood of their horses to stay alive?

02:25:40.000 They ate their horses, they ate each other.

02:25:42.000 Apparently they there was some cannibalism that was reported.

02:25:45.000 Is there a movie like why haven't they made like a game of thrones style series?

02:25:51.000 There was one pretty decent movie, but in order for the movie to be realistic, it would have to be so hardcore.

02:25:59.000 Right.

02:25:59.000 And it would be really problematic because it involves a lot of rape.

02:26:03.000 There's a lot of rape and a lot of horrible, horrible murders. 0.52

02:26:07.000 And one of the one of the things they did was they're they had some rule where like with kings and emperors, they weren't allowed to let like chop them up, so they would kill them in different ways instead of like attacking them with swords or whatever they would do.

02:26:20.000 They would do that, or sometimes they would just stack their bodies and then build uh like a a floor above them and eat on top of them until they crushed them to death.

02:26:32.000 So they would build a platform over their bodies, just crushed them with the weight of these timbers.

02:26:37.000 These people would be moaning while they were eating.

02:26:41.000 Do you think that's real?

02:26:43.000 Yes.

02:26:43.000 Yeah, that's documented.

02:26:47.000 Wow, man.

02:26:48.000 Yeah.

02:26:48.000 The people that survived.

02:26:49.000 That's one of the things he would also do, let some people survive to tell the stories.

02:26:53.000 Jeez.

02:26:54.000 Just run, tell everyone.

02:26:56.000 And of course, like if you're at that dinner, you're not gonna like complain about it. 1.00

02:27:00.000 Like you're not gonna say shit. 0.99

02:27:03.000 You probably get off on it by now. 1.00

02:27:04.000 You've probably been doing it for a decade. 0.98

02:27:06.000 Probably been killing people everywhere you go.

02:27:08.000 They lived in felt tents and they were nomads. 1.00

02:27:12.000 So they had no real home, and they went wherever the fuck they went, and everywhere they went, they killed everybody. 1.00

02:27:18.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:27:20.000 That is incredible. 1.00

02:27:22.000 It's a crazy story.

02:27:23.000 And the story of Genghis Khan, his name was Temu Jin. 1.00

02:27:26.000 He started off as a young boy and he had a brother that was a cocksucker, and his brother was like stealing his fish and beating his ass, and one day he killed his brother. 1.00

02:27:34.000 And his mother freaked out and said, You motherfucker, you devil, you know. 1.00

02:27:40.000 He started off young is the point. 1.00

02:27:42.000 Yeah.

02:27:42.000 Started off young.

02:27:44.000 Yeah.

02:27:44.000 Weren't that wasn't his family really poor?

02:27:46.000 Yeah.

02:27:47.000 The whole story it's crazy.

02:27:49.000 His mother had a run because his father was killed and his mother had a run, they barely survived.

02:27:54.000 They were left out there to die.

02:27:56.000 But don't people I yeah, I he's sort of beloved.

02:28:00.000 Oh yeah.

02:28:01.000 That's what's crazy.

02:28:02.000 There's the statues of him in Mongolia.

02:28:04.000 Yeah.

02:28:05.000 But listen, he historically, he was doing what everybody else was doing.

02:28:09.000 He was just doing it better.

02:28:11.000 They were all doing that.

02:28:12.000 When the Shah of Charisma sent the envoy to Charisma?

02:28:15.000 I thought I missed her.

02:28:16.000 Charisma is a it was a country.

02:28:18.000 Okay.

02:28:19.000 It was the charismian Shah. 0.89

02:28:20.000 It doesn't exist anymore.

02:28:22.000 What is it now?

02:28:22.000 Is it like Syria or something?

02:28:25.000 You know, a lot of those countries, they changed names.

02:28:27.000 What is what was charisma with a cue?

02:28:31.000 Quarism?

02:28:32.000 Quarism, am I saying it wrong? 0.98

02:28:34.000 I don't think it exists anymore.

02:28:36.000 I'm sorry if it does.

02:28:37.000 Might be one of them weird ones.

02:28:38.000 Shah of charisma.

02:28:40.000 Um but anyway, this dude was seeing like whether or not they could sack gin. 0.99

02:28:44.000 You know, they were going to visit to see like, let's take a look and see what their defenses are like, and we'll bring some fucking carpets and some nice stuff and give them a little gift and then come back and fuck them up. 0.99

02:28:54.000 Like that was a standard move. 0.99

02:28:56.000 Right.

02:28:56.000 And when they were on their way, they're like, the Mongols already got there.

02:28:59.000 And it was already too late.

02:29:01.000 Wow.

02:29:01.000 Yeah.

02:29:02.000 Holy fuck, man. 1.00

02:29:03.000 If they had ever gotten to Europe, it would have been over. 1.00

02:29:06.000 I thought they did get to Europe.

02:29:08.000 No, but I mean if they went into Italy.

02:29:09.000 Alright.

02:29:09.000 Like if they went into like Rome and the Vatican, it would have been over.

02:29:12.000 Didn't he conquer more landmass than any other human?

02:29:16.000 Like, didn't at some point they I think it's something like that.

02:29:20.000 Uh present day Central Asia, Afghanistan, and Iran from zero one zero seven seven to twelve thirty-one.

02:29:28.000 Interesting.

02:29:29.000 So that was the Corismian Empire.

02:29:32.000 Whoa.

02:29:35.000 So from 1077 to 1231, first is vassals of the S how do you say that word?

02:29:40.000 Seljuk Empire and the Quara Kei Western Lal Dynasty from circa eleven ninety as independent rulers up until the Mongolian conquest in twelve nineteen to twelve twenty-one. 0.99

02:29:55.000 Holy fuck. 0.98

02:29:57.000 The Mongolians took them over. 1.00

02:30:00.000 Dude took over everything, dude.

02:30:02.000 This is why they go over everything.

02:30:04.000 This is why I think people really get weirdly disturbed by Graham Hancock.

02:30:10.000 Because it's it's like it's like you don't want to think about it.

02:30:14.000 You don't want to think about the fact that there are all these empires.

02:30:19.000 Forget the charismians. 1.00

02:30:21.000 There's all these empires. 0.99

02:30:22.000 No one knows what the fuck they were doing or who they were, nothing. 0.98

02:30:25.000 And they were just like us. 0.99

02:30:26.000 Yep.

02:30:27.000 They were talking, having conversations, sipping tea, having fun with their boys.

02:30:33.000 Never thinking like, you know, at some point people are gonna be staring at the ruins of our temples, scratching their chins, wondering what this means.

02:30:42.000 Dude, that to me is another unifying thought planetary unification. 0.98

02:30:50.000 It's like, man, you guys, nobody to this day knows who built those fucking pyramids. 0.98

02:30:54.000 Right. 0.98

02:30:55.000 And they they if you are like living around the pyramids.

02:31:01.000 I doubt the thought ever crossed your mind.

02:31:04.000 At some point, Mr. Beast.

02:31:08.000 Mr. Beast is gonna be a filming episode of his YouTube show.

02:31:13.000 You know what I mean?

02:31:14.000 That never occurred to you.

02:31:15.000 No, I almost went with him.

02:31:16.000 Mr. Beast?

02:31:17.000 Yeah, I almost went during that trip.

02:31:19.000 Because I couldn't, I couldn't swing it.

02:31:21.000 I didn't have the time. 1.00

02:31:21.000 Damn, dude. 1.00

02:31:22.000 You that's ah, that sucks. 1.00

02:31:24.000 You should also I didn't want to do it that way. 0.69

02:31:26.000 Uh if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it for a quite a few days, and I'm gonna do it with like an expert, like a Ben of you know, from Uncharted X. Right.

02:31:36.000 Like one of those dudes, or Graham, if Graham has the time.

02:31:39.000 I know he's very busy, but he goes there all the time.

02:31:41.000 Right.

02:31:41.000 I would do that.

02:31:42.000 Um but what do you think about those structures underneath?

02:31:47.000 I pray that they're real.

02:31:49.000 Did you see Van Kirkwick's video?

02:31:51.000 The video about the labyrinths?

02:31:53.000 Uh can we walk I I just no, I just read that I had him on the podcast.

02:31:58.000 There's labyrinths that they've discovered that are underneath that are historic.

02:32:03.000 Her Herodotus talked about them.

02:32:04.000 He said they're greater than the pyramids, the structure underneath some of the pyramids.

02:32:10.000 Greater than the pyramids, and through this ground penetrating radar, they've found a 40 meter long metallic tic-tac-shaped object that is in this great hall that's under the ground.

02:32:25.000 Okay.

02:32:25.000 So all this stuff exists, but they they made a dam on the Nile River in the 1960s to help agriculture, and it changed the water table and it flooded all these underground labyrinths.

02:32:40.000 Fucking damn it. 0.98

02:32:41.000 So they would have it's like a massive undertaking to try to excavate and figure out what's in there. 1.00

02:32:46.000 But couldn't you put a drone like a water?

02:32:49.000 You have to actually go through the water and then below that to where the labyrinth's dig through the mud.

02:32:54.000 They might actually be able to channel underneath it, they think and go below the water table and then go to it because it's appears like the water is not in the labyrinth itself.

02:33:04.000 Labyrinth.

02:33:05.000 But it's a labyrinth, sorry.

02:33:07.000 Thank you.

02:33:08.000 But whatever it is, there's a 40 meter long metallic object of unknown origin that's the shape of a tic-tac that's in there.

02:33:16.000 This is real.

02:33:17.000 This is real.

02:33:18.000 Like it could 40 meters, dude.

02:33:20.000 This guy is so legit.

02:33:22.000 Ben is the Uncharted X is a fantastic YouTube channel. 0.99

02:33:25.000 What the fuck? 0.98

02:33:26.000 This is all like real science. 1.00

02:33:27.000 It's the same kind of science that they're using to figure out what the fuck is under the Great Pyramid, all those those weird. 0.53

02:33:34.000 I thought that was debunked, and I was disappointed by that.

02:33:36.000 No, it's not debunked.

02:33:37.000 Not at all.

02:33:38.000 No, the images have been verified multiple times.

02:33:41.000 They don't know what it is, but there's some structure underneath the pyramid.

02:33:46.000 See, those columns are real.

02:33:48.000 There really are columns underneath the pyramids, and it really does go down deep into the earth.

02:33:53.000 They just don't know what it is.

02:33:55.000 But the same technology they've the of they've observed all of the different like where they know where there's special chambers that are sealed off.

02:34:02.000 They know where those things are.

02:34:04.000 But they saw it with the radio tomography.

02:34:05.000 They also were able to use it to identify temples that were 25 and 50 feet underground.

02:34:11.000 So it's it's it's accurate. 0.99

02:34:12.000 Give me a fucking break, man. 0.99

02:34:14.000 How is that? 1.00

02:34:14.000 No, I I because like I was so excited when that came out. 1.00

02:34:18.000 I'm like, I knew it.

02:34:19.000 I've seen it on ketamine.

02:34:21.000 And then did you?

02:34:23.000 What did you see?

02:34:24.000 It's hard to explain.

02:34:26.000 It's like uh structures.

02:34:28.000 I mean the pyramids.

02:34:29.000 Let me reiterate this was in the Khole. 1.00

02:34:31.000 Right.

02:34:32.000 But it was like vast cavernous spaces with structures in it.

02:34:39.000 And you know, the weird thing about ketamine is it's kind of like you're being given a tour, and then you sort of it's like a viewfinder.

02:34:45.000 You remote viewed.

02:34:47.000 Maybe I remote viewed.

02:34:49.000 It was very exciting to see.

02:34:50.000 Um it was under the pyramids?

02:34:52.000 It was under the pyramids, but I must say the next thing I saw was like a city being powered by meat.

02:34:58.000 So it's not exactly like my remote viewing.

02:35:01.000 Maybe that's what you're gonna do with the homeless problem.

02:35:03.000 Oh, and Joe Rogan solves the homeless problem.

02:35:08.000 Maybe that's what the alien agenda is.

02:35:10.000 Well, I mean they power the city.

02:35:12.000 They look we'll take care of your problems.

02:35:14.000 Dude, this is real I am not comfortable with this comet Atlas.

02:35:20.000 I know.

02:35:21.000 And and I like you know the You've got Avi Loeb coming on to talk about it.

02:35:24.000 He's amaz I had him on my podcast a long time ago.

02:35:26.000 He put up with my act. 0.99

02:35:28.000 A lot of people in the beginning were saying that it's bullshit, it's a comet, why is he saying this? 0.99

02:35:31.000 He's risking his reputation. 0.99

02:35:32.000 But then as time's going on, they're going, Well, this is weird.

02:35:35.000 This thing's really weird.

02:35:36.000 Well, it's the what okay. 0.99

02:35:38.000 First of all, it's important to note that one thing that titillates my dumbass is it just so happens the government shutdown coincides with when we could use the satellites on Mars to get pictures of that fucking thing. 0.98

02:35:53.000 So we're not getting pictures. 0.97

02:35:54.000 They did release a picture of it yesterday.

02:35:57.000 The government shutdown is stopping us from getting pictures of this thing.

02:36:00.000 Yes.

02:36:01.000 Yes.

02:36:02.000 That's insane.

02:36:03.000 That's insane.

02:36:03.000 Now that's that's so insane.

02:36:04.000 They should open that up.

02:36:07.000 I mean, it seems like they that just it that's really weird.

02:36:10.000 There are did you see the images that just came in though?

02:36:12.000 They're Europeans got an image of it. 0.98

02:36:15.000 It's weird looking.

02:36:16.000 It's weird looking, but I don't know what a comet looks like.

02:36:18.000 So I don't know what a comet looks like, and I don't know why it's weirder than other comments.

02:36:21.000 But it does seem like it's going, it's like rolling in a weird way, but it's the it's the gas, right?

02:36:26.000 It's like it's what it's releasing is the weird part.

02:36:30.000 Well, the weird part is coming from the same part of the universe where the wow signal came from.

02:36:33.000 Yeah.

02:36:34.000 That's weird.

02:36:35.000 That's weird. 0.98

02:36:36.000 That's fucking weird. 0.98

02:36:37.000 That's weird. 0.99

02:36:38.000 Because that wow signal, what it was like seventy seconds long?

02:36:41.000 Some very strange coded signal that was 70 seconds long.

02:36:45.000 You know what else is weird is Jeremy Corbell said a bunch of people are gonna start saying there's a mothership coming to Earth and don't believe them.

02:36:51.000 Remember he was saying that?

02:36:52.000 Yeah, what's that all about?

02:36:54.000 Why did he know that?

02:36:56.000 I don't know.

02:36:56.000 You gotta tell people why you know something like that.

02:36:59.000 You can't just say that.

02:37:01.000 Well, I think You know what I mean?

02:37:03.000 Like, how do you know?

02:37:04.000 How do you know that it's not really a mothership?

02:37:06.000 How do you know they're gonna say it's a mothership?

02:37:07.000 Well, Corbell, he's gotta do this tightrope walk because somehow he does have inside contacts, but he if he says too much, he he puts his whole life in danger.

02:37:19.000 It's such a spy TV show.

02:37:22.000 Dude, so much of it seems like a spy TV show.

02:37:25.000 So much of it seems like a well written psyop.

02:37:27.000 It's so weird.

02:37:28.000 Yeah.

02:37:29.000 It's so weird.

02:37:33.000 It's a c slow recognition that we're not alone.

02:37:36.000 And did it that they've calculated that the only way to do this and not disrupt society entirely.

02:37:42.000 You know how put off?

02:37:43.000 Do you know what Do you know that story about how when he was uh George Bush, the original Herbert Walker, he wanted to disclose.

02:37:52.000 And what they were going to say was we have recovered crashed UFOs that we have back engineered and we have biological entities.

02:37:59.000 There are things that are not of this world.

02:38:02.000 And they're far more intelligent than us.

02:38:07.000 And I wanted you, I want you to write down on the positives and the negatives of society, like the societal impact of disclosure, and give a numerical value to what is going to do the financial world, what is going to do the religious world, what's going to do to government.

02:38:21.000 And at the end, they all had the same conclusion.

02:38:24.000 The cons far outweighed the pros in terms of disruption of society.

02:38:30.000 So they decided not to release it. 0.99

02:38:32.000 Dude, what the fuck? 1.00

02:38:33.000 Isn't that wild? 1.00

02:38:34.000 Like they almost did that.

02:38:35.000 What was that?

02:38:35.000 George Bush.

02:38:36.000 It was like 90, 1990, maybe?

02:38:38.000 Yeah, it's really weird.

02:38:40.000 Like that crazy.

02:38:41.000 If our entire society depends on protecting billionaire pedophiles and not talking about aliens, then maybe we need a new society. 1.00

02:38:53.000 Just maybe this is a fucked up society. 1.00

02:38:56.000 Or there's a good time for Jesus to come back. 0.99

02:38:58.000 Perfect time.

02:38:59.000 Always a good time.

02:39:00.000 Also perfect because you'd have to really believe. 0.99

02:39:02.000 Because with AI today, you don't know what the fuck is going on. 0.98

02:39:06.000 So you'd have to really believe. 0.98

02:39:08.000 Or Jesus comes through AI.

02:39:12.000 Well, it's possible.

02:39:15.000 It is possible.

02:39:16.000 I mean That's the portal that opens up.

02:39:19.000 That's the that's the Christ.

02:39:20.000 Or the antichrist.

02:39:22.000 Oh well, come on, Duncan.

02:39:23.000 Really?

02:39:24.000 The Antichrist?

02:39:25.000 People are gonna buy more tickets.

02:39:30.000 Nobody wants it.

02:39:31.000 Nobody wants to see that.

02:39:33.000 It all works out in the end movie. 1.00

02:39:34.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:39:36.000 The battle for Satan. 1.00

02:39:38.000 Dun dun dun.

02:39:39.000 Listen, man.

02:39:41.000 Well, I think I think that uh I think I'm here's a cheesy way to end it.

02:39:48.000 Okay.

02:39:48.000 I feel so lucky I'm your friend, man.

02:39:50.000 You're the coolest.

02:39:51.000 I was thinking about it the other day.

02:39:52.000 You're one of my you're one of my oldest friends.

02:39:56.000 I've known you for so long, man.

02:39:58.000 I know, we've known each other a long time. 0.99

02:39:59.000 It's fucking true. 0.99

02:40:00.000 I love you to death, man. 0.99

02:40:01.000 I love you too.

02:40:02.000 I'm very happy that we're friends too.

02:40:04.000 Yeah, it's the best, man.

02:40:05.000 It is.

02:40:06.000 And it's funny because we became friends really uh talking on the phone when you were the guy taking the phone calls for availability at the comedy store.

02:40:15.000 We did this on the phone.

02:40:17.000 We basically basically did.

02:40:18.000 We we started talking you would like tell me, man, have you heard about this?

02:40:21.000 I was like, no, what is it?

02:40:22.000 Yeah. 0.87

02:40:23.000 We'd have these long ass conversations on the phone. 0.63

02:40:25.000 Yeah, while you were with it for hours.

02:40:29.000 It really was like podcasts back then.

02:40:32.000 Long before we ever went on the road together.

02:40:34.000 Yeah.

02:40:35.000 It's fucking cool, man. 0.94

02:40:36.000 Yeah. 0.87

02:40:36.000 Well, I'm glad you're here, man. 0.87

02:40:38.000 Well, likewise, likewise.

02:40:39.000 Thank you for having me on.

02:40:40.000 My pleasure, brother.

02:40:41.000 It's always fun.

02:40:42.000 Always fun to hang out with you.

02:40:43.000 Uh, if you're around tonight, come do the show.

02:40:45.000 Can you?

02:40:46.000 Are you out?

02:40:46.000 I can't because I gotta wake up at four like three a.m. to fly.

02:40:50.000 Oh, where are you going?

02:40:51.000 Uh tomorrow I'm headed to Tacoma.

02:40:53.000 Oh, can I say some dates?

02:40:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:40:55.000 Shit, I always forget, dude. 0.98

02:40:56.000 You've got the most popular podcast on earth. 0.99

02:40:59.000 You're in Tacoma this weekend.

02:41:00.000 Where are you at?

02:41:01.000 Hold on, look at the club.

02:41:02.000 I Googled it because I've been on the road so much.

02:41:04.000 Tacoma's fun.

02:41:05.000 Well, when does this come out?

02:41:06.000 Tomorrow.

02:41:07.000 What?

02:41:07.000 Yeah.

02:41:08.000 Tacoma! 0.74

02:41:09.000 Tacoma.

02:41:12.000 I'm gonna be in uh Portland.

02:41:13.000 Here it is.

02:41:14.000 Oh, thank you.

02:41:15.000 Tacoma Comedy Club.

02:41:16.000 Keep it.

02:41:17.000 That's an awesome spot.

02:41:18.000 The Omaha funny bone funny bone.

02:41:21.000 Helium and Portland.

02:41:22.000 Portland Helium is oh boy, you're going right to the belly of the beast.

02:41:26.000 I'm excited!

02:41:26.000 Oh perfect for your comedy.

02:41:28.000 Yeah.

02:41:28.000 Yeah, nice.

02:41:29.000 Richmond Arts.

02:41:30.000 Oh, they got a Richmond one too.

02:41:32.000 Nice.

02:41:32.000 And then all of it is available at Duncan Trussell.com.

02:41:36.000 Thank you.

02:41:38.000 My man.

02:41:39.000 Thank you, Joe.

02:41:40.000 Love you.

02:41:40.000 Bye everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 09, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2391 - Duncan Trussell

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