The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2393 - Bryan Callen

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.

00:00:05.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

00:00:09.000 I'm going to say I was at...

00:00:14.000 I was at Terran Tactical.

00:00:16.000 And I was shooting, and I I and Logan Paul was there, and I just met him.

00:00:21.000 And uh I hit a dove.

00:00:24.000 No.

00:00:24.000 I grazed a dove somehow, right?

00:00:26.000 Oh no.

00:00:27.000 And the dove is dying right.

00:00:29.000 Oh.

00:00:29.000 Yeah.

00:00:29.000 And I so I'm Logan and I come up and I grab the dove and I'm gonna wring its neck so it doesn't suffer.

00:00:35.000 And Logan, Logan goes, wait, hold.

00:00:38.000 Let me just see it.

00:00:40.000 And he takes it in his hands.

00:00:42.000 And and and instead of me wringing its neck because I don't want it to suffer.

00:00:46.000 I swear to God, it was all you know you're the wing is like this.

00:00:49.000 Uh-huh.

00:00:49.000 His his Jesus energy, his what his whatever his energy is, he held it in both hands.

00:00:55.000 I swear to God, the thing kind of just went just kind of put its wing back in and just fucking flew out of his hands.

00:01:03.000 And I was like, all right. 0.99

00:01:04.000 Well, you were gonna kill it. 1.00

00:01:05.000 I was gonna kill it. 1.00

00:01:06.000 I was like, all right. 0.95

00:01:07.000 They are delicious.

00:01:08.000 Maybe that's Logan's celebrity power stuff.

00:01:10.000 You know that it's like the most hunted bird in North America?

00:01:13.000 Listen, pigeons delicious.

00:01:15.000 And I was just hunting them in London, sir.

00:01:18.000 On the outskirts of London, I just got in the city.

00:01:21.000 I don't think you're allowed to do that.

00:01:22.000 Um this is why this is why I can't do anything.

00:01:25.000 But what's my I I don't know how to do this.

00:01:25.000 Look at me.

00:01:27.000 Help me.

00:01:28.000 It's like a door.

00:01:29.000 You open the like that.

00:01:31.000 I know it's weird.

00:01:32.000 Yeah, but you know, I should be all different.

00:01:32.000 All right.

00:01:34.000 I get pissed when I can't figure out little shit like that. 0.99

00:01:36.000 Like a child seat. 0.99

00:01:36.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:01:38.000 And I'll go, I look at my wife, I go, you you do it.

00:01:38.000 I'm like, okay.

00:01:40.000 And I just throw my hands up.

00:01:41.000 What is it about men that we don't read directions?

00:01:44.000 I never read directions. 1.00

00:01:46.000 I open the box, like, look at this fucking bullshit, put that aside. 1.00

00:01:50.000 I don't need to I'll figure this out. 0.99

00:01:53.000 My my wife, remember one time when my kid was really young, I had to put together a child's bed, and I'm like, I can do it, and I go to put the bed together and and uh well I couldn't.

00:02:04.000 I I couldn't because uh there were directions, and I was like, I the screws, you know, they number the screws.

00:02:10.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:02:11.000 And I'm sitting there like this, and then I I'm making noises, I'm going, uh my wife's like, what's wrong with it? 1.00

00:02:16.000 I'm like, stay out of the room!

00:02:18.000 Apparently she gave me the room, get out of the room, I got this.

00:02:21.000 You should do hard cardio before you put together any child's.

00:02:24.000 Dude, no, this is what I did.

00:02:26.000 I called I called my buddy and I go, I'll give you 300 to come over here right now, put this bed together.

00:02:31.000 He he builds houses, he comes over, he goes, It's four slats in a frame. 1.00

00:02:34.000 What kind of a moron? 1.00

00:02:36.000 Yeah, he couldn't believe it. 1.00

00:02:37.000 I was like, shut up. 0.98

00:02:39.000 That's different though. 0.98

00:02:39.000 That's a guy who's used to using his hands. 0.98

00:02:41.000 Not a delicate man like yourself.

00:02:41.000 Yeah.

00:02:43.000 That's correct, sir.

00:02:44.000 I have soft, I have soft hands.

00:02:46.000 I have I'm by the way, fresh.

00:02:48.000 If I have some marks on my face, I'm fresh, fresh from the uh from the mat of doing takedowns at 58.

00:02:55.000 Ah, it's a great one.

00:02:55.000 That's a good job.

00:02:56.000 How's your back?

00:02:57.000 You know what, dude?

00:02:57.000 You alright?

00:02:58.000 My back is actually good because I I've mastered the art of warming up.

00:03:02.000 Oh, that's good.

00:03:03.000 That's smart.

00:03:04.000 I'm pedantic about it. 1.00

00:03:05.000 Like they make fun of me and I'm like, fuck off. 1.00

00:03:07.000 Yeah, you should. 1.00

00:03:08.000 I do my bird dogs, my fire hydrants.

00:03:10.000 You know Muhammad Ali used to work out for uh we used to warm up rather for an hour before he worked out.

00:03:15.000 Mm-hmm.

00:03:16.000 Yeah, I watched Manny Pack.

00:03:17.000 That's how you stay from getting injured.

00:03:19.000 I did this thing with uh Tosh, Daniel Tosh and I um at the at uh wildcard gym where Tosh was getting punched by Manny, and I was like, help it was like some silly sketch we were doing.

00:03:30.000 Yeah.

00:03:30.000 And uh but Manny was there for a real workout day and just kindly uh allowed Tosh like 20 minutes of his time and they did this little thing.

00:03:41.000 Um but I got to see Manny work out.

00:03:43.000 It is very meticulous.

00:03:45.000 It's all like these he's working out with rubber bands where it's like short little movements and and it's all these twisting and turning and he's got guys stretching him, he's like, you know, he's moving around, like everything's very slow.

00:03:59.000 Very slow.

00:04:00.000 The body warmed up first.

00:04:02.000 Yeah.

00:04:02.000 His first couple rounds of even we watched him hit the mitts.

00:04:05.000 His first couple rounds of even hitting the mitts.

00:04:07.000 It's like tap tap tap tap tap just move.

00:04:09.000 Yeah, just get everything get everything flowing.

00:04:12.000 I watched uh Olympic ice skaters.

00:04:14.000 I was so I was doing a gig at Laugh Boston, and they had some huge tournament.

00:04:18.000 And this woman was in there, she was apparently an Olympian.

00:04:21.000 Watching the way she warms up.

00:04:23.000 Like like like her ankles rubbing down, all these little details.

00:04:23.000 Yeah.

00:04:27.000 I was like, that looks boring as shit, but it is You have to do it. 0.99

00:04:30.000 You have to. 0.98

00:04:31.000 Otherwise you wind up all busted up and broken.

00:04:34.000 But that it allows me to actually wrestle. 0.70

00:04:36.000 DG to be fifty-eight and actually shooting single and double legs against the monsters in That's silly.

00:04:42.000 And I'm on with like you know Sean Apperson or Tyson Mendyas, those guys at archetype boxing, they're just all muscle.

00:04:47.000 And you're wrestling with them?

00:04:49.000 Okay.

00:04:49.000 Yes, sir.

00:04:49.000 And then Tim Kennedy, those guys.

00:04:52.000 Trying to get hurt.

00:04:53.000 Well, well, I'm not sure.

00:04:57.000 My advantage is I I just go I make a I make a weird noise and then I fall.

00:05:02.000 I go like this.

00:05:02.000 Yeah.

00:05:04.000 And I tap or I fall down.

00:05:06.000 Did you see that video I sent you of that 80-year-old woman who completed an Iron Man?

00:05:10.000 80 years old, she completed an Iron Man triathlon.

00:05:10.000 Yes.

00:05:13.000 Which is I think it's 120 miles on a bike, and then it's a marathon.

00:05:18.000 And how what is how long is the swim?

00:05:21.000 Did I send it to you, Jimmy?

00:05:22.000 I think it's two miles, two point six miles.

00:05:23.000 That is crazy.

00:05:25.000 So crazy.

00:05:27.000 She's eighty years old.

00:05:30.000 But I think if you keep if you do something every day like that, I I actually think you can it's it's just keep a lot.

00:05:38.000 Like like what people never do is they they don't have sprints.

00:05:41.000 I don't know how to say her last name.

00:05:42.000 Grabow Gribo.

00:05:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:05:45.000 Natalie, you're a monster. 1.00

00:05:45.000 Either way. 1.00

00:05:47.000 Amazing.

00:05:48.000 Eighty years old.

00:05:50.000 She became the oldest woman to finish the Iron Man World Championship.

00:05:50.000 So nuts.

00:05:54.000 God.

00:05:55.000 That is so incredible.

00:05:56.000 2.8 kilometer swim.

00:05:57.000 Wow.

00:05:58.000 So whatever that is in miles.

00:06:03.000 I'm not good.

00:06:04.000 I'm not going to do this.

00:06:06.000 I think what they're doing this kill.

00:06:07.000 I mean, this must be a UK website.

00:06:09.000 It's covering this.

00:06:12.000 Because I think it's all done in miles.

00:06:14.000 I believe.

00:06:15.000 I've had I've never had an interest in endurance stuff.

00:06:17.000 Do you?

00:06:18.000 Um I have an interest in it, but here's the thing.

00:06:22.000 Um it doesn't matter, Jamie.

00:06:24.000 It's a lot.

00:06:26.000 Anyway, this whatever this lady didn't have to do. 1.00

00:06:28.000 It's fucking incredible. 0.91

00:06:29.000 We don't need to break it down exactly to miles, but I'm pretty sure it's like a hundred and twenty-mile bike ride and a full marathon. 0.99

00:06:35.000 I mean, at eighty, all in a day.

00:06:38.000 And uh th two-mile whatever swim. 1.00

00:06:41.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:06:42.000 Hillet is a beast. 1.00

00:06:42.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:06:43.000 Yeah. 0.89

00:06:44.000 You're it's a beast. 0.99

00:06:45.000 That's crazy. 0.99

00:06:45.000 That's just will. 0.99

00:06:46.000 That's just having a fucking iron will. 0.99

00:06:50.000 The problem with that is it will consume your life. 1.00

00:06:53.000 Yep.

00:06:54.000 That would that that obsession with endurance will consume your life.

00:06:58.000 Um you can let it do that if that's what you're into.

00:07:02.000 If like you want to find peace in the punishment that you give yourself, like David Goggins does.

00:07:08.000 When I talk to him, he's he's so crazy because he's doing all this stuff by himself for no reason.

00:07:12.000 Uh he goes, I'm getting lessons.

00:07:12.000 Yeah.

00:07:16.000 He's telling me he's like learning things, and he's not bullshitting.

00:07:19.000 No.

00:07:19.000 Like he's he really it's like he's like a strange type of a monk that we've never had before.

00:07:26.000 So let me ask you, uh the question is is it a is he a monk, which he probably is, or is he an addict?

00:07:31.000 And you maybe you can be both.

00:07:33.000 Yeah, you can be both. 0.88

00:07:34.000 I think monks are addicts too.

00:07:36.000 Because they're addicted to being calm.

00:07:40.000 They don't want any women in their life, they don't want any possessions. 1.00

00:07:43.000 Like, dude, I'm good.

00:07:45.000 Yeah.

00:07:45.000 I'm addicted to just being like this.

00:07:47.000 Yeah, they they were doing this ri this uh neuroplasticity kind of like these scans, and they found that the monks that sit around and meditate on joy.

00:07:56.000 You know, they like think of the joyous things that that part of their brain expands. 0.98

00:08:00.000 I mean They should talk to Charlie Sheen because he was telling me a story about how he got his dick sucked while he was smoking crack for the very first time, and it was the greatest experience of his life. 0.99

00:08:00.000 Okay. 0.99

00:08:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:08:09.000 He said, To this day, nothing's top down.

00:08:11.000 The greatest experience of his life was the first time he smoked crack, a girl was giving him head. 1.00

00:08:16.000 Well, you know So tell that monk to go fuck himself. 1.00

00:08:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:08:20.000 My friend did my friend who did heroin.

00:08:23.000 He he he um well I may as well say it, Artie Lang.

00:08:26.000 Artie said it's he said it on the podcast.

00:08:28.000 He said um he did heroin the first time, and as his head hit the pillow, he went, I'm in trouble.

00:08:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:08:35.000 Like this is just I'm gonna chase this trap.

00:08:37.000 Yeah, Dave Landau said a very similar thing.

00:08:39.000 He did it once.

00:08:41.000 Um I think it was Dave, right?

00:08:43.000 It was, right?

00:08:44.000 Dave. 1.00

00:08:45.000 That shit'll that shit'll for some people that shit'll grab you. 1.00

00:08:48.000 Oh, I think for most people that shit grabs you. 1.00

00:08:50.000 Yeah, I think you have to be like averse to doing things that'll fuck your life up. 0.99

00:08:54.000 Like you have to have like a an automatic like maybe you grew up around alcoholics or something like that, Or you saw I I didn't none of my like I didn't have like uh anyone in my family that ruined their life with alcohol, but I did have friends that had uh close relatives that I saw become addicted to cocaine and I saw this when I was in high school.

00:09:15.000 So I got like really scared of addiction, and I also when I was working construction, there's this fucking dude that I was friends with who was really cool. 0.97

00:09:25.000 He was uh an older guy, I mean older than me, and I was like 16 at the time, 17, and uh he was probably in his early 30s, but he couldn't keep his shit together. 0.92

00:09:36.000 He just couldn't stop drinking, and he would he would be good for a while and then he would start drinking again.

00:09:43.000 And um man, he was so funny, he was so fun, he was like such a cool guy, and he was a drummer in a band, and the band just you know, never kind of his name is Robbie, and the band never kind of fucking got it together, but he was like he could have been my best friend if like we were the same age and we were hanging out together.

00:10:07.000 It's just not sustainable.

00:10:08.000 But I was watching a man who was a carpenter, he was a Finnish carpenter, and uh, you know, very talented carpenter, but he would just ruin his life every time. 0.98

00:10:17.000 With coke or with booze both.

00:10:19.000 Both booze and coke, but booze would start it off.

00:10:19.000 Yeah.

00:10:23.000 It would be, you know, he'd all of a sudden be drinking a Budweiser, and then it was off to the races.

00:10:28.000 I don't that's the thing about uh addiction, you know.

00:10:31.000 I I or just anything in life if you want to be good at something.

00:10:34.000 I actually don't think you can do it necessarily.

00:10:39.000 I mean, some people can maybe, but I don't know how long when you say when you talk about discipline, when you say I'm just not gonna do it, you you that worked for some people, but I don't think it works for people like that.

00:10:50.000 I think what they have to do their brains wired differently.

00:10:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:53.000 They have to figure out a way to make sobriety more pleasurable than the other thing.

00:11:01.000 And that's fucking hard. 0.99

00:11:02.000 Well, Jimmy Norton, you know, his mom famously said when he was like hooked on hookers. 0.99

00:11:08.000 She's like, Jimmy, you gotta take your addictions and channel it into something positive.

00:11:13.000 Like it was really funny. 0.89

00:11:14.000 He'd talk about like how fucking off the rails he was, but how his mom would help him, you know, like with that piece of advice. 0.95

00:11:21.000 But that is true. 0.92

00:11:22.000 Like, so if you can all of sudden become a marathon runner when before you were just looking to score meth every day, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:11:29.000 You definitely that's a better thing to be addicted to because it's not gonna ruin your life. 0.99

00:11:33.000 It might ruin your ankles and your knees and shit. 1.00

00:11:36.000 But you it's not gonna ruin your life where it like takes away all your money and you you wind up sucking dick for rocks, you know, like the hot people do stuff. 0.99

00:11:46.000 Well, do you remember I said to you, uh we were talking, and I said, I think you had gotten some, you know, it was in the press you made some sign some deal or something. 0.99

00:11:46.000 They do. 0.99

00:11:54.000 And I said, you know, I've known you 30 years, and the one thing the the only thing that's changed about you is you've gotten more peace of mind.

00:12:01.000 Like you just haven't changed really.

00:12:03.000 Like you just not you haven't changed.

00:12:05.000 And um I said, what do you think it is?

00:12:07.000 Which I'm always careful about talking about because I don't want anybody, any of my friends to get into their head about it, right? 0.99

00:12:12.000 Just like shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:12:13.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:12:14.000 Like don't start asking too many questions.

00:12:14.000 Yeah.

00:12:16.000 But I was like gently kind of going, I wonder we were kind of exploring what it is that keeps you grounded. 0.99

00:12:22.000 And I you said to me, I like to do something really hard every day, so it reminds me what a bitch I am. 1.00

00:12:28.000 Well that this is the same thing I feel about the I wrestle almost four days a week now, which is ridiculous. 0.96

00:12:33.000 It's actually embarrassing, right?

00:12:35.000 But I do it because it r it it's hard. 0.99

00:12:39.000 And I don't want to, and I have to warm my frame up, and then I have to go wrestle around with these fucking monsters. 0.97

00:12:46.000 But there's something about it getting better at it, kind of slowly the incremental criminal getting better at something, and I do it because it's hard. 0.98

00:12:56.000 That grounds me.

00:12:57.000 No matter what, I know I did that today.

00:12:59.000 And that's a really good starting point.

00:13:01.000 That's something to jump off of.

00:13:03.000 There's something that, you know, and and if someone's listening and they're not into that, you don't definitely don't have to do that.

00:13:08.000 Just try to do yoga every day.

00:13:10.000 Try to go to uh one of those beakroom 90 minute hot yoga classes is some of the hardest shit I've ever done physically in my life. 0.93

00:13:18.000 So you don't have to like go wrestle. 0.98

00:13:20.000 You could do something that more aligns with your political ideology.

00:13:24.000 No, I always say that.

00:13:25.000 If you're especially I can't speak to women, if you're a young man, you want to find yourself, just get really Good at something. 0.99

00:13:30.000 Like just get good at fucking the piano. 0.99

00:13:32.000 I don't care what it is. 0.99

00:13:33.000 I I always use jujitsu or something like that just because it's hard, but it's it's a it's a placeholder for a lot of other things.

00:13:39.000 Well, it also lets you know that there's a process in life that you can apply like universally, and that is like focus and attention and you know, and this objective goal of getting better, and then you see progress.

00:13:55.000 And then you realize, like, oh, this is kind of applicable to just being a human being.

00:14:00.000 Like you can get better at being a human being by by thinking about okay, I fucked that up, I fuck this up, but I did that good.

00:14:08.000 Oh, what did I do differently?

00:14:10.000 Oh, okay, let's do more of that.

00:14:12.000 But then yeah.

00:14:13.000 Over time, you get better at being a human being.

00:14:15.000 Yes.

00:14:16.000 Right. 0.98

00:14:16.000 But if you don't ever try to get good at anything, you're the same douchebag you were when you were in high school. 0.98

00:14:22.000 But now you're 48 instead of 16. 0.97

00:14:22.000 That's true. 0.97

00:14:25.000 Yeah, and you're you have the emotional maturity of a child.

00:14:28.000 Yeah, there's a lot of people out there running around like that that are just grown-up babies.

00:14:33.000 I know.

00:14:34.000 And they mask it with they'll mask it with a good vocabulary.

00:14:39.000 Yeah, or or they'll mask it with uh like um you know, part of like everybody wants to be an individual, right?

00:14:44.000 You want to be a little mysterious, you want to have a little like a skill set.

00:14:47.000 And one of the great things about stand-up is you you know, no matter where I am, I know I got that.

00:14:52.000 Like I'll put me in front of a group, uh a crowd of a hundred, two hundred, three hundred people, doesn't matter.

00:14:56.000 I don't care who they are, I'll make I'm gonna make them laugh.

00:14:58.000 I know how to navigate that space for an hour.

00:15:00.000 That's a nice thing to know.

00:15:01.000 But if you don't have that, you don't have a skill set.

00:15:04.000 If you don't have something, what happens is you then negotiate individuality with um accoutrement, as they say in France, which means your hair blue. 0.97

00:15:14.000 Of course, and and get all kinds of tattoos and then do some crazy shit. 0.97

00:15:18.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.96

00:15:20.000 But you have no face tattoos. 1.00

00:15:22.000 But you're gonna do you're gonna do a lot of shit. 1.00

00:15:22.000 Not yet. 1.00

00:15:24.000 You're gonna do a lot of it.

00:15:25.000 Yes, yes.

00:15:27.000 Yes. 1.00

00:15:28.000 Get your nipples, get two hearts on your nipples. 1.00

00:15:30.000 Or get them pierced. 1.00

00:15:31.000 That's the best.

00:15:32.000 That's hot.

00:15:34.000 You're definitely making good decisions.

00:15:35.000 Fifty eight years old. 1.00

00:15:36.000 Rods through your nipples, and you're a man. 1.00

00:15:38.000 It's a new look. 1.00

00:15:39.000 I'm trying something out.

00:15:40.000 L O L. But you know what I mean?

00:15:43.000 And then you'll attach yourself to some political cause.

00:15:43.000 You'll do that.

00:15:47.000 All those people that are protesting on the streets, 99% of them are losers. 0.99

00:15:47.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:15:51.000 The other ones work for the Fed.

00:15:53.000 I have a whole joke about that. 0.99

00:15:54.000 It's like fucking uh you know, if I'm FBI agents and losers, that's all it is. 1.00

00:15:59.000 The whole fucking every protest is FBI agents and losers. 0.99

00:16:04.000 I talk about this all the time. 0.99

00:16:05.000 I'm like, for me, you want me to join a protest?

00:16:07.000 You want me to get out on the street, first of all, to make a sign? 0.99

00:16:10.000 The fuck out of here. 0.99

00:16:11.000 And then I'm not sure. 0.99

00:16:12.000 You don't have to make the sign.

00:16:13.000 There's there's a guy with a van who's paid by George Soros, and he's got stacks of signs that were made at Kinkos.

00:16:19.000 Okay, they're not homemade at all. 0.98

00:16:21.000 And you just fucking just pass those bad boys out. 0.97

00:16:24.000 I'm never leading your revolution. 0.99

00:16:26.000 My problem is my sign would say, Ugh, or it's complicated.

00:16:30.000 Yeah.

00:16:31.000 Well, if you're really trying to get your life together.

00:16:34.000 But there's some things, you know, that people feel need to be protested, like people in the UK.

00:16:39.000 Like they're a polite group.

00:16:41.000 This is a polite society, England, for the most part, you know.

00:16:44.000 And they've gotten to the point where they're like, okay, this is kind of nuts.

00:16:48.000 Yeah.

00:16:49.000 Like, what are you guys doing?

00:16:50.000 They've arrested twelve thousand people this year for social media posts.

00:16:55.000 Yeah.

00:16:55.000 Isn't that insane?

00:16:56.000 Yeah, and they're arresting people for just saying things in public like I like bacon around uh the Muslims. 1.00

00:16:56.000 And counting. 1.00

00:17:04.000 Yeah.

00:17:05.000 Yes.

00:17:05.000 Is that true?

00:17:07.000 I looked up that that uh it's some kind of a an information act that uh and if you one of the things is if you're if you post annoying, annoying.

00:17:16.000 It's like that's everything I've ever got.

00:17:19.000 That's like I'm annoyed.

00:17:20.000 And the Brits are the Brits are famously sarcastic.

00:17:23.000 Right.

00:17:23.000 And also it depends entirely on who you are, because like what's annoying to me might not be remotely annoying to other people.

00:17:31.000 So I get to decide whether or not you've committed a crime.

00:17:34.000 They would have they would have arrested Trump 50,000 times, you know.

00:17:37.000 At least.

00:17:38.000 But uh that that's that's uh I I always say that the Brits they the Brits I I don't wake them up. 0.99

00:17:44.000 Yeah, because they conquered the live that small island of pale people conquered the fucking world. 1.00

00:17:50.000 Don't don't be like because I think that there's the Irish too. 0.99

00:17:53.000 Like you be careful now.

00:17:55.000 Same thing.

00:17:55.000 Be careful because they're very comfortable in a couple situations.

00:17:58.000 They come alive and when it when it comes to soccer, i.e. 0.99

00:18:01.000 football, and fist fights and fucking war. 0.99

00:18:04.000 Yeah, and fist fights. 0.99

00:18:05.000 Correct, sir.

00:18:06.000 Just a long history of warriors and Ireland and the UK.

00:18:11.000 And great.

00:18:11.000 Yeah.

00:18:11.000 Yes.

00:18:12.000 They make great mob movies. 1.00

00:18:13.000 Boy, Guy Richie's fucking show, Mobland. 1.00

00:18:15.000 Dude. 1.00

00:18:16.000 Have you watched that show on Netflix?

00:18:17.000 I love his movies.

00:18:18.000 Oh my God, it's good.

00:18:19.000 It's so is Mobile on Netflix?

00:18:21.000 No, it's Paramount Plus.

00:18:22.000 That's all the same.

00:18:24.000 One of them streaming service.

00:18:25.000 It's not all the same.

00:18:26.000 I'm sorry. 0.76

00:18:27.000 One of those streaming services has it, but it's fucking great. 0.92

00:18:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:18:31.000 It's fucking great. 0.99

00:18:33.000 No, they don't. 0.99

00:18:34.000 And it just shows you like how crazy like the UK mob scene is.

00:18:38.000 It's like it's probably pretty accurate.

00:18:40.000 Yeah.

00:18:41.000 It's uh they always say the SAS and stuff.

00:18:41.000 Yeah.

00:18:44.000 Is it Jimmy?

00:18:45.000 Paramount.

00:18:46.000 Yeah.

00:18:47.000 It's good though, huh?

00:18:47.000 It's real good.

00:18:48.000 One of the best shows ever.

00:18:49.000 Yeah.

00:18:50.000 Like as far as like, you know, dramas where you follow them along, which really ruined movies.

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00:19:48.000 Dude, they're so sarcastic.

00:19:49.000 I'm sitting there with my friend.

00:19:52.000 We're in a shoot.

00:19:54.000 Which would mean you wear you wear a collar and tie, sir with with n those knickers, those uh are you talking about like a shoot with a gun?

00:20:02.000 I did a pheasant shoot.

00:20:03.000 Oh, you went hunting.

00:20:05.000 Sir, yes.

00:20:06.000 And now at night we shot deer.

00:20:07.000 But in the mor in the morning, you have we they do drives, and please follow along.

00:20:12.000 We we we wake up, we have a wonderful breakfast at the estate, and I'm paying for none of this.

00:20:17.000 And then we uh we go out and we have a loader.

00:20:20.000 I had a loader, because I can't load my own shells.

00:20:23.000 I had a loader who is a British guy, and that's what they do. 1.00

00:20:26.000 And then the villagers beat the bush to get the partridges that have been stocked.

00:20:31.000 I'm sorry, and both.

00:20:32.000 Oh, sorry, both both.

00:20:33.000 Now it's a huge business.

00:20:34.000 It it supports an entire community, so these shoots are you know, they're very expensive.

00:20:39.000 So the person sponsoring it pays essentially all these, everybody's making money.

00:20:42.000 Rich people recreation.

00:20:43.000 It's a huge rich people recreation.

00:20:45.000 And um, but uh there's something there's something I don't know what else.

00:20:50.000 Well, what were we talking about?

00:20:52.000 I lost my train of thought.

00:20:53.000 You're talking about English people.

00:20:55.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:20:56.000 They're so sarcastic.

00:20:57.000 So I've got this loader um who's next to me, and uh, I'm missing the birds. 0.87

00:21:02.000 I'm not good with a shotgun, and I just they're coming right at us, and I'm fucking literally just missing all of them.

00:21:07.000 And at one point he looks at me and goes, Are you a vegan? 1.00

00:21:12.000 I was like, fuck you, dude. 1.00

00:21:14.000 Like he just quietly said that. 1.00

00:21:17.000 That's hilarious.

00:21:18.000 He goes, swing your barrels.

00:21:20.000 Well, you have to learn how to do that.

00:21:22.000 I um actually in the UK learned how to do it.

00:21:25.000 I you learned how to do it in Scotland.

00:21:26.000 Oh, you did that, didn't you?

00:21:28.000 No, I did Clay Pigeons.

00:21:29.000 You know, the those are really fun.

00:21:29.000 Okay.

00:21:31.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:21:32.000 And uh you learn how you have to lead them, and you learn like how to shoot with a uh a shotgun where you're you're kinda like you kinda it's almost like feel like you feel where the pellets are gonna go and you want the discs.

00:21:48.000 Well, you gotta swing your barrel.

00:21:50.000 So so when the bird's coming, you you go belly, you go tail, belly, beak, and you keep you pull the trigger as you lead the bird.

00:21:50.000 Right?

00:22:01.000 So it's like throwing a football.

00:22:01.000 Yeah.

00:22:02.000 Right.

00:22:03.000 And then they run into the pellets and they they perish.

00:22:05.000 So different than any other shooting that I've ever done, because all the shooting that I've ever done, you have to be dead still.

00:22:11.000 Like everything I've shot with a rifle, rather.

00:22:13.000 So rifle shooting, you you don't move at all, and it's just about control and controlling yourself and staying calm and not flinching when you pull the trigger.

00:22:23.000 But this is so different.

00:22:24.000 It's like, you know, they used to say that like the comanche, one of the things that was crazy Was they some of them weren't even really accurate with a bow if you just gave them a bow and told them to shoot at it like a target.

00:22:36.000 Right.

00:22:37.000 They weren't accurate.

00:22:38.000 But on a horse.

00:22:38.000 Really?

00:22:40.000 So on the horse the gallop and they had this fucking zap. 1.00

00:22:43.000 They knew where that arrow was going. 0.99

00:22:45.000 So that they're using the chaos.

00:22:48.000 So what the movement and all the like the darting around, like they just guide the arrow, like in the middle of chaos and war.

00:22:57.000 So you love archery.

00:22:58.000 Do you know what what was a game changer with art with with shooting shooting or uh a bow from a horse, you know you know what invention changed everything?

00:23:07.000 Probably stirrups.

00:23:08.000 Thank you.

00:23:09.000 Yeah, because they can hang over the side.

00:23:10.000 That's right.

00:23:11.000 Well, you can also stand up and break you know, so it's like you can stay steady and then shoot the mongol. 1.00

00:23:16.000 Comanche used to run uh like very similarly, like that guy is a fucking bad thing. 0.99

00:23:20.000 That's a m that's a mongrel, bro. 1.00

00:23:22.000 That guy is so badass.

00:23:23.000 That's where that guy Shovkot comes from, I think. 1.00

00:23:25.000 Look at that.

00:23:26.000 Yeah, but the kind of core strength you have to have to do what that guy was just doing.

00:23:31.000 Go back to that first one.

00:23:33.000 Oh, is it a YouTube or something?

00:23:34.000 You know who can ride horses like that?

00:23:36.000 Who's that who's that good at horses?

00:23:38.000 Sylvester Stallone.

00:23:39.000 He grew up on this.

00:23:40.000 Oh my god.

00:23:41.000 Bro, that kind of strength to be able to hang completely sideways.

00:23:45.000 Like when it starts in the beginning, that's not as impressive as the very first frame.

00:23:48.000 Go to the very first frame.

00:23:50.000 What look look at he's look at his positioning.

00:23:52.000 That's that's his bananas.

00:23:54.000 That's bananas. 0.99

00:23:56.000 Like his spine and his core are so it must be so fucking strong. 0.99

00:24:01.000 Think about fighting him. 1.00

00:24:02.000 If you've got a sword and you have to deal with a group of those dudes injured, there's a lot of bad motherfuckers from that part of the world, bro. 1.00

00:24:09.000 A lot of bad motherfuckers. 1.00

00:24:11.000 Where they hunt with each other. 1.00

00:24:15.000 Kazakhstan.

00:24:18.000 Like, and they hate him. 0.99

00:24:19.000 They're like, if he comes there, they're gonna kill him. 0.99

00:24:21.000 My bet. 1.00

00:24:22.000 Yeah, like they because they made everybody look like a goat fucker and a retard, and meanwhile, they're like some of the fiercest fucking human beings on earth. 1.00

00:24:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:24:30.000 Yeah.

00:24:31.000 You know, like Shovcott unfortunately just injured his knee again.

00:24:35.000 He did.

00:24:36.000 Yeah, man.

00:24:37.000 He had surgery in his knee, was rehabbing his knee and blew it out again.

00:24:42.000 And now he has to have another surgery, and now it's ten months.

00:24:45.000 There's a few guys that I've known who have done that where they got ACL reconstruction.

00:24:49.000 I don't know if Shovkot had ACL.

00:24:52.000 But any kind of reconstruction of the ligaments, you um you feel better before you're better.

00:24:58.000 You gotta be real careful because what happens is when you get a reconstruction of your knee, So, like, say if they use a cadaver, that does not become your new tendon.

00:25:10.000 What that does is becomes a scaffolding for your new tendon.

00:25:14.000 And so your body has to proliferate that scaffolding of the dead guy's tendon with fresh tendon meat.

00:25:22.000 Really?

00:25:22.000 And eventually it becomes your tendon.

00:25:25.000 But it feels good right away, but you've got a rotten old piece of meat in there that your body is taking over with its own tissue.

00:25:33.000 Wow.

00:25:33.000 Yeah, didn't you have that done?

00:25:35.000 I had that done, yeah.

00:25:36.000 And and how long did it take you?

00:25:37.000 Six months.

00:25:38.000 Yeah.

00:25:38.000 Really?

00:25:39.000 Six months I was doing jujitsu again.

00:25:41.000 But you couldn't do anything until then.

00:25:42.000 No, I was bringing really smart.

00:25:43.000 I I was really smart about it because I that was my second knee reconstruction.

00:25:47.000 I had my left knee reconstructed too.

00:25:49.000 That was a patella tendon graft, and that one took a lot longer to heal.

00:25:54.000 Because you you're taking a chip out of your bone, a chip out of your shin, and a slice of your patella tendon, which is a very thick, large tendon, and then they open you up like a fish and screw both of them in place.

00:26:06.000 It's very invasive.

00:26:07.000 Whereas the one on the right knee, um, the ACL reconstruction with a cadaver was a really easy recovery.

00:26:13.000 Like uh, I was I went to a party like six days later with just a brace on, just walking around. 0.98

00:26:18.000 Damn. 0.96

00:26:19.000 Yeah, I was not bad at all. 0.98

00:26:20.000 I mean, I was careful with it, you know, but I was very diligent with the rehab, like every day.

00:26:26.000 I was doing rehab every day.

00:26:28.000 And like really doing it, like not bullshitting around.

00:26:32.000 I was doing like I would go in the steam shower and do deep squats and wow.

00:26:36.000 I was really re rebuilt all the tissue before I ever even thought about doing jujitsu again.

00:26:43.000 But jujitsu six months later, no problem at all.

00:26:46.000 Wow.

00:26:46.000 What protects me is my um moderate temperament.

00:26:50.000 I'm I'm good at like you being like, mm, I can feel a little something, I'll be stopping now.

00:26:55.000 You probably don't have that gene.

00:26:55.000 You know?

00:26:56.000 You just keep it.

00:26:57.000 I'm terrible at that.

00:26:58.000 That's why I get hurt sometimes because I meathead my way through things.

00:27:02.000 I just decide to push through the pain, and next thing you know you've got something legitimately wrong.

00:27:07.000 Like I was doing toes to bar you and and hanging, and I my wrist has never been the same.

00:27:07.000 Well, that's it.

00:27:14.000 Like you hurt your wrist.

00:27:15.000 Yeah, I pulled I broke something or did something where I it's all you know, there's a certain angles.

00:27:19.000 I know.

00:27:20.000 But the pr problem is you're way more fragile than you realize.

00:27:24.000 You are for sure.

00:27:25.000 Well, I unfortunately is tougher.

00:27:25.000 Yeah.

00:27:30.000 Every day I hang for two minutes.

00:27:32.000 Every day.

00:27:33.000 Every day.

00:27:34.000 And it's new.

00:27:34.000 It's really good.

00:27:35.000 It's I've only been doing it like the last time.

00:27:37.000 Well what do you get out of it?

00:27:39.000 I think I feel better, like my spine feels better.

00:27:42.000 I've been doing a bunch of things at the same time, so it's hard to tell what has the most impact.

00:27:47.000 I think they all have a lot of impact.

00:27:49.000 But one of the things I've been doing is like I go to this guy and get trigger point work.

00:27:53.000 Right.

00:27:53.000 Trigger point massage.

00:27:54.000 It's it's so painful. 0.98

00:27:56.000 It's some of the most fucking it's not massage. 0.99

00:27:58.000 You can call it massage. 0.99

00:27:59.000 It's this guy's digging elbows and knuckles into like your IT band and you uh yeah, all different parts you're just that's my calves, I'll fucking cry. 0.87

00:28:08.000 Different parts of your spine, different parts of your calves, your your legs, your your lower back, all that stuff. 0.71

00:28:15.000 But also hanging every day.

00:28:18.000 And the more I hang in the beginning, I was like, I wonder if this is gonna like really help anything.

00:28:22.000 Or if it's just me trying to see how long I can hang.

00:28:24.000 Yeah.

00:28:25.000 Uh and so now I do two minutes.

00:28:27.000 I just hang there.

00:28:28.000 It's so long time by the way.

00:28:30.000 Yeah.

00:28:31.000 Um I can go to two thirty-seven, that's the longest I've gone.

00:28:35.000 At right now I'm like two oh two.

00:28:37.000 But I wonder it pr probably first of all makes your hands really strong.

00:28:40.000 It makes my hands real strong.

00:28:41.000 Yeah.

00:28:42.000 They're very callous now, like maybe more callous than they've ever been.

00:28:44.000 They've always been kind of callous from kettlebells, but now I'm getting different ones, like on the front fingers, the the the pointer fingers.

00:28:53.000 I always get my caluses on the right where the ring finger is for some reason on both hands.

00:28:57.000 That's the biggest cow. 1.00

00:28:58.000 I guess that's where it grip the hardest or where it grinds around the most.

00:29:02.000 But my back feels better.

00:29:04.000 It's just feels like looser.

00:29:05.000 Like it's got it's like it's and I'm like, okay, well, I've only done this for a few weeks every day.

00:29:10.000 Like what if I do this every day for a year?

00:29:12.000 Like what happens?

00:29:13.000 Does it can you actually decompress your spine?

00:29:15.000 Well, it turns out you can't.

00:29:17.000 So I started going on YouTube and following people's uh hanging journeys.

00:29:22.000 Yeah.

00:29:22.000 This is one lady, she I guess you broke the world record.

00:29:26.000 She hung for twenty-three minutes.

00:29:29.000 What?

00:29:30.000 Isn't it funny?

00:29:30.000 What?

00:29:31.000 Well, the human body, if you can you can train yourself to do almost any how you can adapt, but that's nuts.

00:29:36.000 There's people out there that are just different than you.

00:29:38.000 There are people and I know that.

00:29:40.000 They have not just you, like everybody listening, they have a different will.

00:29:44.000 Their will is different. 0.99

00:29:45.000 The wi the kind of will that you have to have to hang from a bar for twenty-three fucking minutes is so crazy. 0.96

00:29:51.000 This guy does it for two hours and twenty-two minutes. 0.99

00:29:54.000 What?

00:29:54.000 Why switching arms, obviously, but yeah, it's the long time.

00:29:57.000 Life is too long.

00:29:57.000 You know what?

00:29:58.000 I think that lady has the ladies' record. 1.00

00:30:01.000 Life is too short to hang from a bar that long.

00:30:03.000 Two hours and twenty-two minutes.

00:30:04.000 That's pretty crazy, man.

00:30:05.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:30:06.000 That guy must be a fucking some kind of crazy rock climber, right? 0.99

00:30:10.000 His body, yeah, his body looks pretty uh pretty normal. 0.99

00:30:13.000 Well, it's all really about your hands and your grip if you are uh a rock climber.

00:30:18.000 I mean, you have to have leg strength and flexibility and a bunch of other things as well for sure.

00:30:22.000 Yeah.

00:30:23.000 But God, your grip is what keeps you alive. 1.00

00:30:25.000 Without your grip, you don't have jack shit. 1.00

00:30:27.000 Right. 0.99

00:30:28.000 But um this lady that was doing it, I was just watching her doing it. 1.00

00:30:31.000 She was doing the same thing. 0.99

00:30:32.000 She was like switching hands and shit. 1.00

00:30:34.000 So you give your left hand a break and then you hold on with your right hand, your right hand a breakphone. 0.98

00:30:39.000 I think your body uh I do it, I I find that the game changer for me was when I stopped stretching and started strengthening.

00:30:46.000 So you can stretch, you should do some stretching, but my routine before I wrestle or something is to strengthen, so I'll warm it up.

00:30:46.000 Right?

00:30:53.000 So I do I do strengthening exercises for my lower back.

00:30:56.000 Oh, okay. 0.99

00:30:58.000 Yeah, or just no, just like bird dogs and fire hydrants and you know, all that shit. 0.99

00:30:58.000 Like planks. 0.99

00:31:03.000 And uh that stuff is that that's been the game changer.

00:31:06.000 Like with my shoulders, I was getting tenninitis, right?

00:31:09.000 And then I just started doing all these different shoulder things with bands.

00:31:12.000 Mm-hmm.

00:31:12.000 Right before I do it, and sure enough, you get stronger.

00:31:15.000 My neck, same thing.

00:31:16.000 My neck people don't work their neck. 0.98

00:31:19.000 Like as they get older at all.

00:31:20.000 I think your neck is really important.

00:31:23.000 What do you do?

00:31:23.000 Oh, for sure.

00:31:24.000 I do that iron, you know that.

00:31:27.000 And then I get a band sometimes and I'll just turn like that, like I'll be on my own.

00:31:30.000 The best thing about the iron neck, in my opinion, is there's other stuff that you could do, like harnesses where you do like chin ups with your neck or like not chin ups like you think of.

00:31:39.000 But like you have this harness around your head, and then there's a chain at the end of the chain is a dumbbell, and then what you're doing is just using your neck to lift the weights.

00:31:47.000 The guy from Iron Neck had a real good point.

00:31:49.000 He's like that that puts like weird stress on your all those different discs.

00:31:56.000 It does?

00:31:56.000 Yeah, so when you're doing it.

00:31:58.000 When you're yeah.

00:31:59.000 Huh.

00:32:00.000 And he's like, you can really get hurt.

00:32:02.000 Whereas what you want to do is strengthen your neck so that it doesn't do that, right?

00:32:06.000 In all sports.

00:32:08.000 In sports, it's very rare that you use your neck like that.

00:32:11.000 Wrestling.

00:32:12.000 I used to use my neck in jujitsu, and I actually started developing a problem.

00:32:16.000 I had a bulging disc for a while. 0.99

00:32:18.000 And that it was one, it was also definitely getting caught and not tapping like a dumb ass. 0.96

00:32:24.000 But two, it was arm triangles. 0.99

00:32:26.000 I was I had a really good arm triangle, head and arm choke.

00:32:29.000 So if I got mount on someone and I was able to isolate that arm, that I am I have a really good head and arm choke.

00:32:36.000 But in that head and arm choke, I'm using my neck.

00:32:39.000 That's part of the reason why it's good, because I have a thick neck.

00:32:42.000 So because if I can get your arm right here, I got another weapon. 0.99

00:32:47.000 Like you're thinking about my arms holding on to you, but I'm holding on to you with this, and this is strong as fuck. 0.99

00:32:47.000 Yes. 0.99

00:32:53.000 If I get you in this position and I'm holding that arm there, but the problem was I was developing like a real pinch nerve, and then it wound up making my fingertips numb.

00:33:02.000 And then that's when I found out the chiropractors are quacks. 1.00

00:33:05.000 I went to a chiropractor for like a year and just gave this guy money to bullshit me. 1.00

00:33:10.000 It's like God damn it. 1.00

00:33:11.000 It made me so mad on your foot. 0.99

00:33:13.000 Press on the top of my head to see if I had a bulging disc.

00:33:16.000 I'm not kidding.

00:33:17.000 I go, uh, do maybe I have a bulging disc.

00:33:19.000 And like I just thought this guy was cool.

00:33:21.000 I thought he was a doctor as well.

00:33:22.000 I did know that chiropractors go to zero days of medical school and they get to call themselves a doctor. 0.92

00:33:27.000 I also didn't know that chiropractic, the whole idea of it was founded by a magnetic healer who uh like it came to him like a seance or some shit. 0.99

00:33:37.000 He was a complete fraud. 0.99

00:33:39.000 And his son, who was a con artist, took over the business. 0.99

00:33:42.000 Son ran over him with a car, by the way. 0.96

00:33:44.000 Killed that guy.

00:33:45.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:33:45.000 Son killed the dad, ran over him with a car. 0.98

00:33:45.000 Really? 0.98

00:33:47.000 Psychopath and then took over his business and then started saying that, you know, the cracking people's backs can fix leukemia and all kinds of shit. 1.00

00:33:55.000 Sure. 0.96

00:33:55.000 You have to you have to align your meridian points. 0.96

00:33:57.000 Oh, yeah, it's all made up stuff.

00:34:00.000 But there is something beneficial about manipulating your spine, though.

00:34:04.000 This is what's interesting, right?

00:34:05.000 There's something beneficial about um massage and a lot of the other things that are doing. 0.91

00:34:10.000 They're they're essentially loosening up like this trigger point shit that I told you I've been doing. 0.69

00:34:15.000 That's the extreme version of it, which I think is way more effective. 0.95

00:34:18.000 But there's something to the manipulation.

00:34:20.000 Well, it releases but there's also a lot of people that have had fucking serious consequences of getting their neck cracked, where they have strokes, correct. 0.95

00:34:28.000 And like things fuck like this uh there's a guy I just saw on um the news the other day that had compartment syndrome where he's like he can't move his body anymore because he went to a chiropractor, and before he's like this like little smiley happy guy, like nightmare. 0.89

00:34:44.000 And again, this is not all chiropractors, a lot of chiropractors, I'm sure, give you benefit because I think there's something too like loosening you up. 0.94

00:34:52.000 Well, no, it's pushing on you, and there's a physical therapy aspect.

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00:36:04.000 Some the chiropractors know what you're talking about, so when they go into it, they study physical therapy. 0.98

00:36:08.000 So I had a chiropractor say to me, your hips are you're you're you're atrophy and your ass is atrophy on the bottom. 0.94

00:36:16.000 So you have to strengthen that part because it'll bring your hips into alignment. 0.97

00:36:20.000 He was dead, he was right on.

00:36:21.000 Yeah, so those guys study that.

00:36:23.000 Yeah.

00:36:23.000 But that's what he really is.

00:36:24.000 He shouldn't be saying he's a doctor.

00:36:26.000 That's what's crazy.

00:36:26.000 Correct.

00:36:27.000 It's not that there's no benefit to it.

00:36:29.000 It's like they all want to call themselves doctor too.

00:36:32.000 You know, I'm Dr. Rogan.

00:36:33.000 Like come on.

00:36:34.000 You know who the um you know Squat University, you ever follow that that account?

00:36:40.000 Oh, dude.

00:36:41.000 That guy, everybody I know who like he trains Olympic weightlifters and real Olympians, and he'll show you what what he's he knows the body so well, and this is the greatest.

00:36:51.000 I I DM him because people I respect were talking about how they they follow him, like a lot I know a lot of trainers who follow them and stuff.

00:36:57.000 And if you if you go to his thing, you'll see he demonstrates how somebody will have an impingement.

00:37:02.000 This is an Olympic weightlifter or something.

00:37:04.000 Pain for two years, and then he'll give them an exercise.

00:37:08.000 Literally an exercise, and it will actually change them almost instantaneously or within a couple of days, right?

00:37:15.000 And because he really understands the body.

00:37:17.000 So I had heel pain, really bad heel pain.

00:37:20.000 I would wake up and I couldn't walk, so it's like plantar fasciitis, what's going on?

00:37:24.000 You had gouts on so I go to a couple of podiatrists and they make me the implants, it's like you just need art support and all that.

00:37:34.000 I DM him, I can't remember his name.

00:37:37.000 And he um he said, you know, I'm gonna send you a video on a guy, your shoes may be too narrow.

00:37:44.000 And what's going on? 1.00

00:37:45.000 You do wear those fucking goosebumps. 1.00

00:37:48.000 Dress shoes. 1.00

00:37:50.000 I got my keys on.

00:37:51.000 But I did.

00:37:51.000 I would wear those kind of, you know, you want to be cool.

00:37:54.000 And what was happening is my big toes being every time I would wear a blazer, every time I blazer, I would sometimes be like, I'm gonna wear a blazer and a collar shirt, and I'd walk in and you'd go, Hey, you're teaching substitute school, you a substitute teacher again? 0.99

00:38:07.000 I'd be like, fuck this man, take it off. 0.99

00:38:09.000 So much for that. 1.00

00:38:10.000 Anytime I wear a collared shirt, you're gonna be a big one.

00:38:12.000 Well, you're wearing slippery shoes.

00:38:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:38:14.000 You're wearing those weird dress shoes that are slipping.

00:38:16.000 I try to I try to I try to change it up.

00:38:18.000 I'm like, I'm gonna dress like an adult.

00:38:19.000 I want to be like Jordan Peterson, but it never lasts.

00:38:22.000 Yeah, you gotta give up on that.

00:38:22.000 Can't do it.

00:38:24.000 But he told me, he goes, he said, I think what's happening is your sh your big toes being pushed in, and sometimes that cuts blood off to your heel.

00:38:34.000 So your heel is actually at is actually getting necrosis, actually dying.

00:38:39.000 You're not getting blood.

00:38:40.000 Wait a minute.

00:38:41.000 The blood has to go through the heel to get to the big thing.

00:38:45.000 It's not like does it go that way?

00:38:46.000 Yep, there's an artery.

00:38:47.000 It goes all the way to the end.

00:38:48.000 When you push here, which is the end of the line, which is your toes.

00:38:51.000 As a doctor, I can tell you, as you push here.

00:38:53.000 And then it turns around and goes through the heel.

00:38:55.000 Whatever this happened when this happens, it blocks blood flow.

00:38:57.000 The it it blocks the the artery that's taking place.

00:39:01.000 I wore wide toe shoes like that, within five days, all my my pain was gone.

00:39:05.000 That's crazy.

00:39:06.000 That makes sense though.

00:39:06.000 Yeah.

00:39:07.000 And no podiatrist knew that.

00:39:08.000 He did.

00:39:09.000 Because he studies the body because he works with the top athletes, and if he doesn't get results, he doesn't get paid.

00:39:14.000 That's that's that's what we have to look at.

00:39:15.000 Do podiatrists ever tell you you should do foot exercises?

00:39:18.000 Well, do you go to a podiatrist and they say what you really need to do is wear barefoot shoes and pull a sled.

00:39:26.000 You know?

00:39:26.000 Like when I do f foot exercises.

00:39:29.000 You're use some of those like bare like vivo barefoot shoes and pull a sled.

00:39:34.000 Yeah.

00:39:34.000 You'll get stronger.

00:39:34.000 Yeah.

00:39:35.000 You'll feel every little part of your foot like pushing.

00:39:40.000 And that's how they're supposed to engage.

00:39:43.000 You know, traditional shoes are essentially like a cast. 0.99

00:39:46.000 There's this hard thing that that that separates you from the ground so your toes don't articulate and push and everything is just like from the leg into this cast and that pushes down because it's like this big spongy hard surface that you put your fucking foot into. 0.79

00:40:03.000 How much do you do how how often, like how many hours you work out like how long a day? 0.94

00:40:08.000 Every day at least an hour.

00:40:10.000 That's a lot.

00:40:11.000 I like to do a couple hours though, because I like to have like especially strength training.

00:40:16.000 I like to have long weights in between um exercises.

00:40:21.000 It allows you to fully recover before you do it again.

00:40:24.000 How heavy do you go?

00:40:25.000 That's uh it's all based on uh Pavel Tatsulin.

00:40:28.000 Um his um it's all from the Russians, like how they would train kettlebells. 1.00

00:40:33.000 He and his philosophy is that strength is a skill, and you should never do a skill when you're tired.

00:40:39.000 So if you're if you're doing like power cleans, like if I'm doing uh cleans and presses, I'm waiting five minutes in between each set.

00:40:47.000 I'm waiting a long time.

00:40:49.000 At least.

00:40:49.000 Really?

00:40:50.000 Sometimes ten.

00:40:51.000 So you're doing Olympics.

00:40:52.000 And I don't care.

00:40:53.000 No, no, it's kettlebell stuff.

00:40:53.000 Olympic weight lifting.

00:40:55.000 So I'm cleaning and pressing, like uh you know mo the heaviest I usually use is like seventy pounds.

00:40:55.000 Okay.

00:41:01.000 Every now and then I'll fuck around. 0.99

00:41:02.000 I have like a I have a big foot one that's like ninety-two. 0.99

00:41:05.000 I'll bust out some reps with the big foot. 1.00

00:41:08.000 But most of the time I'm doing 70 pounds.

00:41:10.000 That's my heavy my heavy.

00:41:12.000 And what is that for you?

00:41:12.000 Like like uh So I do sets three sets of ten cleans and presses.

00:41:17.000 And by the tenth, well, how tired are you?

00:41:18.000 Not tired at all.

00:41:19.000 That's the whole thing.

00:41:20.000 The whole thing is you get all the reps that you would get if you smashed them all together.

00:41:24.000 If you only took like a minute off in between each set and you went through it.

00:41:28.000 So you get all the strength, but what you're not doing is you're not operating under fatigue.

00:41:34.000 So it's not pushing failure?

00:41:36.000 No.

00:41:36.000 And it's not a muscular endurance thing.

00:41:38.000 No, you're not pushing failure at all, which is also I thought was crazy.

00:41:41.000 The philosophy is it's not the failure that gets you strong.

00:41:46.000 It's the amount of repetitions.

00:41:47.000 The whole thing is the amount of repetitions.

00:41:50.000 Now, if you do three sets of ten and you do them back to back, boy, you get to that third set, you might barely be able to get up that tenth rep, right?

00:42:00.000 Because you're exhausted. 0.99

00:42:01.000 Because you've done cleans and presses, you gave yourself like a minute rest in between sets and then you went and did it again, and a minute rest in between the third set, and then you want you're fucking tired as shit. 0.99

00:42:01.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:12.000 Right.

00:42:13.000 But if you're waiting ten minutes in between each r each set, you're doing the same amount of work, but easily.

00:42:20.000 So you you have a less of a chance of getting hurt, and your goal is not muscular endurance.

00:42:27.000 Your goal when you're doing strength training is just strength.

00:42:30.000 That's what you're trying to do.

00:42:32.000 So the whole way to get strong is not going to failure.

00:42:34.000 This is their philosophy.

00:42:36.000 You can argue it if you want, and especially bodybuilders, I'm sure would argue with it, because it's a different thing.

00:42:39.000 We're just trying to get massive.

00:42:41.000 But his thought is if you can do say 20 reps to failure, don't do that.

00:42:49.000 Do ten.

00:42:50.000 And then wait a long time and then do another ten.

00:42:53.000 And it's just as good as doing 20 sets to failure.

00:42:56.000 The whole thing that gets you strong is just work.

00:42:56.000 Yeah.

00:43:00.000 It's just the numbers.

00:43:02.000 And it allows your body to fully recover so that you can you when you lift it up, like if you go to clean the second set, you're you're fully engaged, you feel good, you feel rested, you feel strong, and then you bust out those sets, and then you wait again. 0.94

00:43:19.000 I wait fucking maybe ten minutes.

00:43:22.000 I'm just sitting around, I'm yeah, I watch a YouTube video, maybe I stretch, and then I get out and I do it again. 0.95

00:43:29.000 So that's those are the long days.

00:43:30.000 So when I have a lot of time, uh that's how I like to work out.

00:43:34.000 I like to work out in these long two hour chunks.

00:43:36.000 I got small kids, bro.

00:43:37.000 It's never happening.

00:43:38.000 Yeah, but if you get up in the morning, you can do it.

00:43:40.000 If you get up before everybody else, or if you do it when everybody's asleep, you could do it.

00:43:44.000 But the the point is if you want to like that, that's a way to get strong that I think you lessen your chances of injury.

00:43:52.000 You're always got a chance of injury.

00:43:54.000 You're lifting heavy things.

00:43:55.000 But I don't lift things that are that heavy.

00:43:58.000 And um the heaviest thing I lift really is my body.

00:44:01.000 I do a lot of body weight squats, a lot of bodyweight stuff, pull-ups, dips, chin-ups.

00:44:05.000 Yeah, I do a lot of stuff.

00:44:06.000 L's L chin-ups, you know, where your feet are extended and you're doing chin-ups like this.

00:44:11.000 I do a lot of those.

00:44:12.000 And I do those toe to bars. 0.98

00:44:14.000 Um, I do those like you were talking about those suck.

00:44:17.000 But they're really good for your abs.

00:44:19.000 I do a lot of ab stuff.

00:44:19.000 Yeah.

00:44:20.000 I have like a heavy core ab routine.

00:44:24.000 But I've always kind of done that.

00:44:25.000 It's like really important for kicking.

00:44:27.000 Like kicking, you know, uh, people think it's in the legs, and it certainly is, but a lot of it is in your in the torque that you generate with your core.

00:44:36.000 That's really where the power comes from.

00:44:38.000 It comes from here.

00:44:40.000 A real powerful kick is all from it's all and the leg kind of follows through with it.

00:44:47.000 But when you dig into it, if you have a weak core, you there's no way you're gonna generate enough force to even get that leg moving correctly.

00:44:55.000 I love that we're 58 and talking about the importance of kicking and torque.

00:45:00.000 I could think that way.

00:45:01.000 I could think oh, I'm 58.

00:45:02.000 Why do I think of that?

00:45:03.000 But I just think what I like.

00:45:04.000 I was just working on my double leg.

00:45:05.000 What are you talking about?

00:45:06.000 Who are you talking to?

00:45:07.000 But also more importantly, I do the work to make sure that my body can still do this at fifty-eight.

00:45:11.000 If you're like 58 and you're a mailman and you've been drinking every night and you haven't gone to the gym in six months, you're like, I'm gonna go kick the bag, like slow.

00:45:19.000 Slow down, you're gonna get hurt.

00:45:21.000 Started five minutes.

00:45:22.000 Yeah, you gotta build, like you say, oh Rogan hangs for two minutes.

00:45:25.000 I'm gonna go hang for two minutes.

00:45:27.000 You first of all you're not. 1.00

00:45:28.000 And you're gonna hurt yourself.

00:45:28.000 Yeah.

00:45:29.000 Like, don't. 0.99

00:45:30.000 If you want to start hanging, hang for 15 seconds.

00:45:32.000 Just do that every day for 15 seconds, and then one day you'll be able to do 30 pretty easy.

00:45:37.000 And then next thing you know, you'll be doing a minute.

00:45:39.000 I say don't wait, hey hey, you're gonna get back to working out.

00:45:39.000 I always say that to people.

00:45:42.000 You don't have to do an hour.

00:45:43.000 Actually start with 10 minutes.

00:45:45.000 Start with 10 minutes.

00:45:46.000 Literally 10 minutes.

00:45:46.000 Super light.

00:45:48.000 You don't want to do much.

00:45:49.000 Push-ups, keep it fine, sit-ups, body weight squats, that's it.

00:45:49.000 Yeah.

00:45:53.000 Feel feel the difference.

00:45:54.000 So you feel like stimulated.

00:45:56.000 You have energy.

00:45:57.000 Instead of like uh my my old trainer, I love him, Lou Perata.

00:45:57.000 Right?

00:45:57.000 Mm-hmm.

00:46:01.000 He would say stimulate, don't annihilate.

00:46:03.000 He was the same way.

00:46:04.000 He's 60, he's 70 now.

00:46:06.000 Same thing.

00:46:07.000 Yeah, because that's the thing about being a meathead.

00:46:10.000 It's like your meat headedness can actually get in the way of progress.

00:46:13.000 Yeah.

00:46:14.000 Like you can actually l learn better if you're not exhausted, right? 0.79

00:46:18.000 But there's like a lot of jujitsu schools that have you do shit like when I used to train at Carlson Gracie's, the warm-up was so brutal.

00:46:27.000 By the time you got to actually training, that was like a break. 0.89

00:46:31.000 It was a break. 0.98

00:46:34.000 You know, I don't have to fucking do somersaults over and over again. 0.97

00:46:38.000 You would do all these different body weight things. 0.98

00:46:41.000 They would do like duck walks and bear claw crawls, but the their idea was hey, you should be fit enough that you could do all this shit and it's easy, and then you start training, and then you're fit to train, and it'll help your training.

00:46:55.000 And there's they're right. 0.84

00:46:56.000 They're right.

00:46:57.000 However, if you're trying to teach people something, the worst way to teach them is when they're exhausted.

00:47:04.000 So if you can say like Carl Gotch, famously, the he's a famous catch wrestling guru who was a great wrestler back in like God, I think it was like the 50s and 60s, back when catch wrestling was legit.

00:47:16.000 Like they would they would write.

00:47:17.000 What is catch wrestling?

00:47:19.000 It's an American style submission wrestling that a lot of these submissions actually, you know, when you you think about um, is that Ken Shamrock and stuff?

00:47:29.000 No, Ken Shamrock Ken Shamrock had a little bit of that for sure.

00:47:33.000 You know, Ken Shamrock was m he was a hybrid. 0.66

00:47:36.000 You know, he did a lot of training in Japan and he did he was a leg lock guy before anybody was.

00:47:41.000 Like Ken Shamrock won some of the early UFCs with heel hooks. 0.87

00:47:44.000 Nobody even knew what the fuck was going on. 0.92

00:47:46.000 Um he was also a massive human being, too. 0.99

00:47:49.000 That was part of it. 0.99

00:47:50.000 Like Ken Shamrock was fucking jacked. 0.99

00:47:52.000 He was so strong. 0.99

00:47:53.000 Um but their whole thing was all about conditioning.

00:47:56.000 Like the Lion's Den, they had this famous crucible they would put recruits through.

00:48:01.000 Like if you wanted to train with the lion's den, you had to go straight.

00:48:04.000 You'd have go through hell.

00:48:06.000 They had this crazy like bud style strength and conditioning routine. 0.99

00:48:10.000 Then you had to spar everybody. 0.96

00:48:12.000 You had to spar the whole team and they beat the fuck out of each other.

00:48:15.000 Because back in those days, nobody knew what sp sparring light was all about. 0.62

00:48:19.000 No. 0.91

00:48:20.000 Like everybody like knock each other out and everybody beat the fuck out of each other.

00:48:23.000 So it's like, but that's not you produce animals when you do that, but you're not gonna produce the most technical guys from most of the people.

00:48:34.000 Most of the most technical guys, the what they they think of there's two, you have to compartmentalize two different things.

00:48:40.000 Like toughness, like in training, if you're doing cardio, if you're doing hill sprints, if you're doing you know, live drills, there's toughness, but then there's also you you gotta really know technique.

00:48:54.000 And technique is the king of all when it comes to MMA.

00:48:58.000 Sure.

00:48:58.000 But in jujitsu, it's even more important.

00:49:00.000 In MMA, it's even more important because there's more aspects to the game.

00:49:00.000 Yeah.

00:49:04.000 And if you're like, did you see the UFC this weekend?

00:49:06.000 Did you see Oliveira versus Gamron?

00:49:08.000 No.

00:49:09.000 Bro, it was a tour de force of Jiu Jitsu.

00:49:13.000 Really? 0.93

00:49:13.000 The moment Gamrock, because Gamrod is a sick wrestler. 0.93

00:49:16.000 Metal Scamrod, he's a nasty wrestler. 0.96

00:49:18.000 Where is he from?

00:49:20.000 Like that part of the world that you're terrified of.

00:49:24.000 Um, I don't want to miss be the the the old country, the hills.

00:49:28.000 Poland.

00:49:29.000 Poland. 1.00

00:49:30.000 Hard ass motherfucker. 1.00

00:49:30.000 There you go. 1.00

00:49:32.000 Beast beast of a wrestler. 1.00

00:49:33.000 I mean, just a fucking animal. 1.00

00:49:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:49:35.000 He took Charles Oliveira down right away and was immediately in terrible trouble.

00:49:41.000 Like every step of the way.

00:49:42.000 He's get he was getting Oma Plotted and triangled and this and that and all of Vera just dominated him on the ground.

00:49:51.000 And then when it comes to stand up, well, Alveira is better at stand-up than him. 0.98

00:49:54.000 So they go on the feet and Gamrat's fucked. 0.94

00:49:56.000 He's getting lit up on the feet by Oliveira, and then Oliveira takes him down and strangles him, takes his back and chokes him out because I leveled the first guy to ever finish Gamera. 0.95

00:50:05.000 But it just showed the importance of technique.

00:50:07.000 Yes.

00:50:08.000 Technique, finishing technique, not just holding technique and taking guy down technique, which Gamrod has a fuckload of.

00:50:15.000 But he doesn't have the jiu-jitsu technique that Oliver has.

00:50:19.000 But he could have.

00:50:21.000 He could have had that.

00:50:22.000 As good a wrestler as he is.

00:50:22.000 Right.

00:50:24.000 Yeah.

00:50:24.000 If that guy just dead and Eddie Bravo used to say this years and years and years ago.

00:50:29.000 He was like, if these wrestlers, they all want to study like anti-Jiu-Jitsu.

00:50:33.000 They all want to take everybody down and have you know top avoid the jujitsu, avoid the submissions.

00:50:39.000 That's what they concentrate on the most.

00:50:40.000 He's like, instead of just learning all those submissions and just annihilating people.

00:50:47.000 But they in their mind they were competing against Jiu Jitsu.

00:50:51.000 Oh, that's interesting.

00:50:51.000 So it was like the wrestlers had a show, we're the toughest.

00:50:53.000 Yes.

00:50:54.000 We're gonna get on top and five.

00:50:55.000 My tribe is better than your tribe. 0.60

00:50:56.000 100%.

00:50:57.000 And Eddie was like, if they could just abandon that and fall in love with jujitsu, they'd be the most dangerous people alive.

00:51:03.000 Wow.

00:51:04.000 Because they're already the best.

00:51:06.000 That's so interesting, and that makes total sense.

00:51:08.000 Total learn learning the learning your enemy.

00:51:12.000 Like really learning.

00:51:14.000 Stop being on a team.

00:51:16.000 Yeah.

00:51:17.000 You're you're trying to be a fighter. 1.00

00:51:18.000 If you're an MMA fighter, stop this I represent Taekwondo shit. 0.99

00:51:22.000 Like, no, you don't. 0.99

00:51:23.000 You're just you know, you have to do it.

00:51:25.000 Well, you and I talk about that.

00:51:26.000 Don't let the fact that you have an idea in your head.

00:51:29.000 See, we all have the we've we both formed these ideas.

00:51:32.000 A lot of those ideas are informed by where I am emotionally to begin with.

00:51:36.000 I'm defending something.

00:51:38.000 Typically, I'm gonna be defending uh how I grew up, my parents, uh what's worked for me. 0.99

00:51:44.000 All that shit. 0.99

00:51:44.000 My city. 0.99

00:51:45.000 You know, yeah, my culture.

00:51:47.000 And uh what happens is you get a you you start identifying with your ideas, and it's just an idea.

00:51:53.000 So be open to having your mind changed based on evidence.

00:51:56.000 Well, just don't be married to your ideas, that's for sure.

00:51:58.000 But the most important thing is like think about Bruce Lee, right?

00:52:01.000 What did he figure out?

00:52:02.000 He figured out before anybody, absorb what is useful.

00:52:07.000 Take from all martial arts.

00:52:09.000 Yes.

00:52:09.000 You know, you don't have to call it a new thing anymore because Jeet Kune Do is what we're all doing, really.

00:52:15.000 If you're doing MMA, you're doing Jeet Kune Do.

00:52:18.000 You're doing what he he's he just said, take a little bit of everything that works.

00:52:21.000 Yeah.

00:52:22.000 No matter what it is.

00:52:23.000 But also like technique, like when you watch how they bring boxers up, like Virgil Hunter, you know, in his camp, Andre Berto and Andre Ward.

00:52:32.000 Man, the to watch how they like the the old school boxers, I love watching them. 0.97

00:52:37.000 I love watching how they train.

00:52:39.000 Like they will they do stuff like everything you do, like this guy, Coach Anthony, people like that.

00:52:45.000 If you watch them, everything is considered.

00:52:48.000 And you work on your jab, you work on uh how to set that jab up.

00:52:52.000 Gordon Ryan talks about that too, like with jujitsu.

00:52:54.000 Start on the bottom, start on the bottom.

00:52:56.000 How's your half guard?

00:52:57.000 What's it like?

00:52:58.000 How do you get out of amount?

00:53:00.000 Get start your your your entire uh repertoire, your technique at the worst part and understand that.

00:53:07.000 But with with boxing, when you watch like footwork, it's all footwork, man.

00:53:11.000 It's such a different thing.

00:53:13.000 It's like how you step, where you punch from.

00:53:15.000 I don't know if it's Canelo Alvarez versus Terrence Crawford.

00:53:18.000 Crawford always had his foot on the outside.

00:53:20.000 He was in perfect position, defense was flawless.

00:53:23.000 I love watching that.

00:53:24.000 That is a master class.

00:53:25.000 It was amazing.

00:53:26.000 It was a master class because there was one point in the fight where Terrence was pity patting them.

00:53:31.000 So what he'll do is he'll pity pat you and then load up with big shots.

00:53:35.000 But he was so dominant that he could stand in front of Canelo Alvarez, who's one of the most feared boxers, one of the greats of all time of the sport, no doubt.

00:53:45.000 And Terrence Crawford is sitting in front of him going pap whip.

00:53:50.000 Just it was crazy. 1.00

00:53:50.000 Damn. 1.00

00:53:51.000 I was like, look at it, he's pity patting him, which is almost disrespectful. 0.99

00:53:55.000 Well, do you know what this is?

00:53:56.000 You know what Alvarez Alvarez said, he goes, I couldn't figure him out.

00:53:59.000 How about that?

00:54:00.000 I couldn't figure out that's what I think fighting it's at the highest level.

00:54:03.000 It's it's two people try to solve like what are these patterns you're doing?

00:54:08.000 How can I cut you off at that at before you finish that pattern?

00:54:12.000 Duran used to people would say when they fought Duran, they would say he's he's reading my mind.

00:54:17.000 And they would say he's reading my mind because he knew he could see what you were doing.

00:54:21.000 He's like, I know where you're going with this.

00:54:21.000 He'd been there.

00:54:23.000 He's also so raw, he might have been reading your mind. 1.00

00:54:25.000 Fuck man. 1.00

00:54:26.000 He was such a savage. 1.00

00:54:27.000 In his early days, like people see Duran.

00:54:30.000 You see Duran like when he fought Davy Moore and Iran Barkley and those guys.

00:54:34.000 That's a Duran that's 30 plus pounds over his best fighting weight.

00:54:40.000 His best fighting weight was 135.

00:54:42.000 Dude, he fought and Barkley was a Iran Barkley was I think uh fought at 67, maybe even bigger, and he fought him at that weight.

00:54:51.000 Yeah, he and he knocked him out.

00:54:52.000 Yeah.

00:54:53.000 Go see if you can find Roberto Duran versus Ken Buchanan.

00:54:57.000 This is when he won the lightweight title when he was young and like super skinny before way before he fought Leonard.

00:55:03.000 It's probably a black white fight.

00:55:03.000 It's crazy.

00:55:07.000 He was a fucking badger, dude. 1.00

00:55:09.000 Just a ferocious man with excellent technique. 1.00

00:55:13.000 That's what poverty tearing people apart. 0.98

00:55:15.000 That's what not having enough food, literally in Panama does to you.

00:55:19.000 Yeah, and also a long history of combat sports in Panama as well.

00:55:23.000 This is like it's not like uh a unique thing to be a boxer in Panama.

00:55:27.000 So you're dealing with iron sharp.

00:55:29.000 It's iron, excellent technique.

00:55:31.000 Oh, it is in color.

00:55:32.000 He was so beautiful. 0.96

00:55:33.000 But boy, look how shitty it looks. 0.89

00:55:34.000 What year is this?

00:55:35.000 72?

00:55:35.000 It's upscaled, so it's this is upskilled.

00:55:38.000 This is what every UFO video is.

00:55:40.000 Bro, he was so good.

00:55:42.000 Look how skinny he is.

00:55:43.000 Wow, it's crazy.

00:55:44.000 Yeah, bro.

00:55:45.000 When you when you when you are a real boxer like that, that's what you do.

00:55:48.000 You just you don't look muscle bound.

00:55:50.000 Well, in his defense, I mean, he was a young man and he was but he was a lot thicker when he fought Leonard at 47.

00:55:56.000 He looked a lot better.

00:55:56.000 He's got a Brian Cowan body, that's what I like about it.

00:55:59.000 Uh but he had him low a lot as well.

00:56:03.000 He was very rough.

00:56:04.000 Like in the in-fighting occasionally he would great, great in fighter.

00:56:08.000 Probably knew where the referee was, too.

00:56:12.000 You know, back then there was no instant replay.

00:56:15.000 Ken B. Kennan was very good too.

00:56:17.000 You ever see me getting a boxing lesson from Sugar Ray Leonard in in Sylvester Stallone's house?

00:56:23.000 You ever see that?

00:56:24.000 I haven't put it on Instagram.

00:56:25.000 No, we're watching really good boxing.

00:56:27.000 I don't know why you're even like.

00:56:28.000 Sorry, great.

00:56:29.000 Sorry.

00:56:30.000 Oh, he got caught there.

00:56:32.000 Oh, Ken B. Cannon was legit.

00:56:32.000 Yeah.

00:56:34.000 Damn. 1.00

00:56:35.000 Wow. 1.00

00:56:36.000 I mean, there's a crazy fight, but these are.

00:56:38.000 Was he said 35?

00:56:39.000 Mm-hmm.

00:56:40.000 And this was for the lightweight title.

00:56:42.000 It's it was a crazy scrap of a fight, man.

00:56:44.000 Scoot ahead so you could watch someone like the later action.

00:56:48.000 Buchanan was something else, huh?

00:56:49.000 Oh, yeah, he was world champion.

00:56:50.000 You know, I never heard of him until just now.

00:56:52.000 He was a tough guy.

00:56:53.000 Wow.

00:56:54.000 Is he wearing a I'm pretty sure that's how Duran won the title.

00:56:57.000 I don't think Duran was defending the title.

00:56:59.000 I think Dur Duran Look at that shot.

00:57:01.000 Dude.

00:57:02.000 Bro, when you watch these guys and you think about like how long it takes to get this good at boxing.

00:57:10.000 How much time had no he wasn't that old?

00:57:10.000 Yeah.

00:57:13.000 I'm saying I'm saying But how much time spent like trying to under fire figure out when to connect to someone's face.

00:57:21.000 No, I was saying grip to the body.

00:57:22.000 What's his name?

00:57:23.000 Uh Crawford said, This this has been a 30-year career.

00:57:26.000 He's been fighting for 30 years.

00:57:28.000 Oh yeah.

00:57:28.000 If you think about it.

00:57:29.000 Well, and also Terrence Crawford's been fighting smart for 30 years.

00:57:33.000 He doesn't get hit a lot.

00:57:34.000 That's like um Which is nuts.

00:57:35.000 That's Guy Hopkins.

00:57:36.000 Hopkins never got hurt.

00:57:38.000 I mean, until he saw fought Joe Smith and got knocked out of the ring.

00:57:41.000 He was fell on his head.

00:57:42.000 Fifty with a gray beard. 0.99

00:57:44.000 Crazy. 0.73

00:57:44.000 Fifty by the way, fought from 40 to 50. 0.73

00:57:48.000 What nobody could beat him in a division that required speed.

00:57:52.000 Never got hit.

00:57:53.000 He's a genius.

00:57:54.000 Yeah, he's one of the all right.

00:57:55.000 He's to me, like people talk about what the greatest athletes and stuff.

00:57:58.000 They never talk about what he was able to accomplish at his age in that division.

00:58:02.000 That's that has to be part of the conversation.

00:58:04.000 Well, by the time he fought Felix Trinidad, people thought he was done already.

00:58:08.000 Unbelievable.

00:58:09.000 That was I think he was 36 at the time when he knocked out Trinidad.

00:58:12.000 People thought he was over.

00:58:13.000 And then, you know, he just have you had him on this podcast?

00:58:16.000 Yeah.

00:58:17.000 Yeah, he's awesome.

00:58:18.000 Yeah, man.

00:58:18.000 I'm a huge fan of that guy.

00:58:20.000 God.

00:58:20.000 So smart.

00:58:21.000 And um, you know, his lessons from prison too.

00:58:25.000 He's like, I'm never going back.

00:58:26.000 And they they said to him when he's leaving, we'll see you soon. 0.99

00:58:29.000 He was like, No, no, no, not me, bitch. 1.00

00:58:31.000 And just live. 1.00

00:58:32.000 He used to run with a tennis ball, apparently.

00:58:34.000 Yeah.

00:58:35.000 Yeah.

00:58:35.000 That's obsession.

00:58:36.000 Yeah.

00:58:37.000 Well, that's how you become a Bernard Hopkins.

00:58:39.000 That's how you get out of where you are, too.

00:58:41.000 Right?

00:58:41.000 Exactly.

00:58:42.000 You gotta plan your escape.

00:58:43.000 The thing about Terrence, though, is like Terrence is like an artist.

00:58:46.000 Like what he did in there, it's like, God, I go watch clips from that fight over and over again, probably for decades.

00:58:52.000 He's an artist.

00:58:53.000 Like what he's doing in there, it's like he's like not just beating you.

00:58:53.000 Yeah.

00:58:58.000 He's he's beating Canelo Alvarez and kind of making him look a little silly and doing it with the highest stakes humanly possible with a guy that can break your face with one punch.

00:59:09.000 I mean he's missiles are headed his way.

00:59:12.000 And he's like, Nope.

00:59:13.000 I know.

00:59:14.000 Catch not here, but I'm here.

00:59:17.000 Bam.

00:59:18.000 He hit him so many times where Canelo had whiffed and then he would counter.

00:59:22.000 It's like, God, that's so pretty.

00:59:24.000 That's so pretty because like to be in the in the fire.

00:59:27.000 So like there's guys that could move real good and they were really hard to hit, like Willie Pep.

00:59:32.000 You know, Willie Pep had crazy footwork.

00:59:34.000 Mayweather.

00:59:35.000 Mayweather, but stand right in front of you though.

00:59:37.000 It's a bad example.

00:59:38.000 Because what I'm saying is like these guys that are hard to hit that aren't moving.

00:59:41.000 They're right in front of you, and you can't hit them.

00:59:44.000 That's Mayweather.

00:59:45.000 Like, but there's guys that were they were hard to hit, but they were real mobile.

00:59:49.000 Like Michael Venom Page in MMA is a great example.

00:59:51.000 You can't hit that.

00:59:52.000 So beautiful.

00:59:53.000 She's moving in and out so fast.

00:59:55.000 Like you can't.

00:59:56.000 I heard he was at the mothership.

00:59:58.000 I was there, but I missed him.

00:59:58.000 Yeah, he wasn't.

01:00:00.000 See, look at this.

01:00:00.000 Boom.

01:00:01.000 I mean, look at these there's missiles coming his way.

01:00:06.000 Bro, he's so slick.

01:00:08.000 Like every time Canelo would show up.

01:00:10.000 You see him catch that body shot with his elbow?

01:00:12.000 Yep.

01:00:12.000 You're not touching it.

01:00:13.000 Catch it and then fire right back.

01:00:15.000 And he did get tagged a couple times.

01:00:17.000 But even there, as Canelo rushes in, he gets popped.

01:00:20.000 You make one mistake with Canelo though, you're you're going out.

01:00:22.000 Like that's that marginalized error.

01:00:25.000 And he catches it.

01:00:27.000 That is so pretty.

01:00:28.000 And to do that, two weight classes above his the normal weight.

01:00:28.000 Look at that.

01:00:34.000 That is a one weight class above the previous world championship that he held.

01:00:38.000 Meanwhile, he was 187.

01:00:40.000 Do you know that?

01:00:41.000 Oh no.

01:00:41.000 Yeah.

01:00:41.000 Listen, man, when I talked to him, it was I talked to him on the podcast a couple of years ago before and he wanted this fight really bad.

01:00:49.000 How thick was he?

01:00:50.000 It was normal size, you know, but he did it the right way.

01:00:53.000 He took a long time in between fights.

01:00:55.000 He did a lot of deadlifts and a lot.

01:00:57.000 There's a lot of like strength and conditioning videos of him where you see him like really working hard and really like put on quality mass where he did it slowly over the you know, he didn't get roided up and then just gain a bunch of muscle.

01:01:11.000 It's useless.

01:01:12.000 He did it smoothly and slowly, so he kept all of his skills, but now he had more size and now he had more strength.

01:01:20.000 All skills, all speed, everything was still there.

01:01:22.000 Because that's an illusion, too.

01:01:24.000 People think you're gonna get slower if you get bigger.

01:01:26.000 That's not real.

01:01:27.000 That's it depends on you're not gonna get unless you get really crazy bodybuilder big, like Mr. Olympia big.

01:01:34.000 But Vander Holyfield didn't slow down when he moved up to heavyweight.

01:01:38.000 He actually got more fit and picked up his punching power.

01:01:42.000 You know, it's like you can put on muscle and you can get stronger and still be fast.

01:01:48.000 And Terrence totally showed that in that fight.

01:01:51.000 That fight was just that's that's what boxing is really all about. 0.95

01:01:55.000 Yeah, I love it's like boxing is one of the few, it's such an honest place in this crazy world where I don't know where the fuck the truth is. 0.80

01:02:01.000 Like I don't know. 0.63

01:02:04.000 Yeah, well, that's true.

01:02:05.000 That's a problem.

01:02:06.000 That's a problem with MMA too.

01:02:07.000 It is.

01:02:08.000 But that's that even that is a little bit like I've been pretty good at predicting after the fight, kind of going, I think this guy won.

01:02:16.000 You know, it used to be a few.

01:02:19.000 He was only if he didn't win the last two rounds, he would have lost that fight.

01:02:24.000 Well, Canelo is so loved him, you know.

01:02:26.000 That's not good.

01:02:27.000 No.

01:02:28.000 I mean, in terms of like a judge.

01:02:30.000 You're you you shouldn't be looking at how much someone's loved.

01:02:32.000 You should be looking at of course everybody loves Canelo.

01:02:34.000 I wonder though I love Canelo.

01:02:35.000 But once he gets into the ring, you have to judge him on his performance in the ring, period.

01:02:41.000 That's it.

01:02:42.000 I know, but you know, human beings.

01:02:44.000 You love somebody, you already have a lot of people.

01:02:46.000 I know corruption, Brian.

01:02:47.000 I know Vegas odds.

01:02:47.000 Yeah.

01:02:48.000 That's true.

01:02:49.000 I know gambling.

01:02:50.000 There's a lot.

01:02:51.000 There is a lot you have to take into consideration.

01:02:53.000 A lot of these people live in Vegas. 0.99

01:02:56.000 You don't think they know fucking degenerate Gamblers. 1.00

01:03:00.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:03:01.000 You don't think they owe money.

01:03:02.000 You don't think maybe something's going on.

01:03:04.000 Like a lot of these guys, like and gals, by the way.

01:03:07.000 They were connected to super shady people back in the day. 0.95

01:03:10.000 And decisions were fucked with.

01:03:13.000 Do you remember that site? 0.99

01:03:14.000 Gambling odds.

01:03:15.000 What was that when Bradley remember uh?

01:03:15.000 Yeah.

01:03:18.000 Many Pacquiao, too.

01:03:19.000 Bradley.

01:03:20.000 Wow.

01:03:20.000 Yeah.

01:03:20.000 Yeah, that same lady, she also she she'd scored a few that were like, what?

01:03:27.000 But that was a big one.

01:03:28.000 That was a big one. 0.97

01:03:29.000 But that's also you have to think of that when you see a g a big fucking decision like that where it's funky. 0.98

01:03:35.000 You gotta go. 0.95

01:03:36.000 If I was a gambler, like all you have to do is get one person, say if you're betting on a split decision.

01:03:43.000 You have to just one person in the bag.

01:03:45.000 You just got one person that scores it the other way no matter what, and you give that person 200 grand, and now you're gonna make 20 million.

01:03:53.000 That's real.

01:03:54.000 Like people do stuff like that.

01:03:56.000 At least they have in the past.

01:03:57.000 Of course they have.

01:03:58.000 Well, let me ask you this.

01:04:00.000 As you, you know, as with with AI and as as we get better and better at these videos that you can't tell whether it's real or not.

01:04:09.000 You know, I really wonder It is good.

01:04:11.000 Maybe just stop looking.

01:04:12.000 That's that's what I was thinking.

01:04:13.000 That's what I was thinking. 1.00

01:04:14.000 We're wasting our fucking lives staring at that's right. 0.99

01:04:16.000 That mine that's what my whole special is about. 0.99

01:04:18.000 It's called false gods because that be that has become that is what we're bent over in prayer with. 0.98

01:04:23.000 We're always looking at it all the time.

01:04:25.000 That dopamine scroll, right?

01:04:27.000 We're just a nation of drug addicts. 1.00

01:04:29.000 If there's a drug that made you stare at your hand all day, fucked it. 0.98

01:04:33.000 Literally the theme of what I wrote about 'cause I was like, I I'm I find myself like I I find myself going, I'm not gonna look at my phone, and then I get sucked in, and there's fun, good things to watch, whether it's old interviews, whether it's snippets of this, but it's a highlight reel, man. 0.98

01:04:47.000 It's like mining for gold though in a really shitty spot.

01:04:51.000 Like you're not getting a lot of gold.

01:04:52.000 No, you're not.

01:04:53.000 Every now and then you get a little gold flake, some funny meme.

01:04:56.000 Ah, and then I'll send it to all my friends.

01:04:58.000 But I find out the really funny ones, they make it to me anyway.

01:05:02.000 Like the that's what I really want.

01:05:02.000 Yeah.

01:05:04.000 I really want the funny things.

01:05:05.000 So the funny things like funny memes and shit like that, they'll make it to me, no matter what.

01:05:10.000 You know what I've done?

01:05:11.000 I was I was listening to a political podcast, my buddy walked by, said something so cool, because he's done really well in life, and he goes, He goes, Are you listening to the weather again? 0.99

01:05:20.000 And I was like, Fuck man, I am. 0.93

01:05:23.000 I'm either listening because I want somebody to confirm my bias, or I'm listening because I w maybe want to hear something I kind of already know, or it'll be a different twist that somehow in my mind I can use as an argument against somebody I already disagree with you. 1.00

01:05:37.000 It's all that shit, right? 0.98

01:05:39.000 I listen to I I'm fucking reading novels now. 1.00

01:05:42.000 I'm not doing it anymore. 0.99

01:05:43.000 I'm fucking done. 0.98

01:05:44.000 Well, novels. 0.99

01:05:45.000 Yeah.

01:05:46.000 I'm just I I my problem is I don't think you do this at all, but I do know there are people you can make a lot of money in the podcast space in the influencer space if you draw strong good guy, bad guy narratives.

01:06:00.000 And if you can make those narratives biblical, please.

01:06:03.000 Now you're really in the money.

01:06:05.000 And I I I'm always wary of that.

01:06:06.000 I'm always wary of that reductionist kind of idea that bring I do think there are sometimes there are good guys and bad guys.

01:06:12.000 I think there is good and evil.

01:06:13.000 I think that's worth a worthy conversation to have.

01:06:16.000 But man, you gotta be careful about getting sucked into those narratives because sometimes it's not that simple.

01:06:21.000 Well, it's also what we were talking about earlier, people that aren't good at anything in their life, and their life gets captured by whatever team they're on, whether they're Democrats or Republicans.

01:06:32.000 Correct.

01:06:32.000 And that becomes your whole identity.

01:06:34.000 So how do you avoid it? 0.99

01:06:35.000 Don't be a retard. 1.00

01:06:37.000 Jesus Christ, it's a rigged game. 1.00

01:06:39.000 It's a rigged game, and you're gonna jump in with your dick in your hand. 1.00

01:06:42.000 Like, what are you doing? 1.00

01:06:43.000 It's dumb. 1.00

01:06:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:44.000 Don't be a real thing.

01:06:45.000 People always want me to say I'm a Republican or say I'm a Democrat.

01:06:48.000 Like I am I mostly think in a left way, mostly.

01:06:53.000 But I also am a firm believer in discipline and human nature, personal responsibility, personal responsibility and willpower.

01:07:01.000 I think willpower is a real thing.

01:07:03.000 I've lived my whole life with it.

01:07:04.000 I I know what it is. 1.00

01:07:06.000 And so to pretend that it's not, and some people, you know, they don't just need to get their fucking shit together. 0.98

01:07:12.000 That's not that's not helpful for them. 0.98

01:07:14.000 It's not really kind and compassionate because it's not being honest with them.

01:07:18.000 By telling people they're fine the way they are.

01:07:20.000 No, you're not.

01:07:21.000 You know, you should be on a goal of constant self improvement. 1.00

01:07:24.000 Doesn't mean you have to be an asshole. 1.00

01:07:24.000 Yes. 1.00

01:07:26.000 You know, and that's the other thing. 1.00

01:07:27.000 People that are weak bitches, they always want to Conflate being disciplined and having personal responsibility with being an asshole. 1.00

01:07:35.000 No, you can be a really nice person and still you know you don't you don't have to be a shithead just because you take care of yourself and you're healthy. 1.00

01:07:43.000 It's like this is a scam. 0.99

01:07:45.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:07:45.000 It's uh it's a cover that weak bitches. 1.00

01:07:48.000 I know you're less inslamed than me, but let's calm down, you know. 0.99

01:07:51.000 Yeah. 0.92

01:07:51.000 It's nonsense. 0.92

01:07:52.000 It's like people just get so tribal, and the reason why they do it is because they don't have anything else in their life.

01:07:57.000 They don't have anything that's really important and interesting in their life.

01:08:00.000 And so they get like completely captured by politics.

01:08:03.000 You see this now with like um you gotta give Trump some credit for bringing peace to a part of the world where you know that's been at war since Moses had a parting of the ways with the Pharaoh.

01:08:13.000 Yeah, and it was a lot.

01:08:14.000 They had to give up a lot, right?

01:08:16.000 How many Palestinian prisoners did they have?

01:08:16.000 They had to give up.

01:08:18.000 250?

01:08:20.000 And a lot of them are, you know, those poor Israelis that have been there for two years, and what has happened to those people during that time. 0.74

01:08:26.000 But look, imagine being an Israeli prisoner and you're in Gaza and they're just sh starving and digging your own grave shelling the fuck out of that place for two years and never thinking you're gonna get home to your family again. 1.00

01:08:40.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:08:41.000 So are they released now? 1.00

01:08:42.000 Have they been released?

01:08:43.000 All twenty living hostages have been released.

01:08:46.000 Some of them are in really bad condition, so they don't want to show them to on camera because they've got to be starving to death.

01:08:52.000 Yeah, they're right in the hospital.

01:08:53.000 Well, they're probably never gonna be the same again.

01:08:55.000 You know, that's that's the thing about starving to death.

01:08:55.000 No.

01:08:58.000 It's like your organs have massive damage.

01:09:00.000 Like I I knew this guy.

01:09:03.000 But Hollywood's quiet.

01:09:06.000 His dad had been captured in Vietnam and uh tortured and starved, and he was never the same again physically. 0.99

01:09:14.000 Even after he came back and put the weight back on, like he's his body was fucked up. 0.99

01:09:18.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:09:19.000 From the torture from and from the starvation.

01:09:21.000 And the stress, man.

01:09:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:23.000 Everything.

01:09:24.000 It's just amazing that he survived.

01:09:25.000 No sunlight living in a tunnel for two years.

01:09:28.000 Well, you know.

01:09:29.000 Whatever whatever Trump had to do to do this, what's fascinating is watching people's reaction where they don't want to reluctantly give him credit for it.

01:09:39.000 Yeah.

01:09:39.000 Because it's not just this.

01:09:41.000 He's he's negotiated multiple peace agreements between African countries that have been at war for decades.

01:09:49.000 And this is just one more that he's done on top of that.

01:09:53.000 And it's like people can't get past what they they think of him in terms of the bluster or maybe the Epstein files, or this like look.

01:10:04.000 There's no perfect person that's gonna be president. 0.86

01:10:08.000 And pr to pretend it's Barack Obama is crazy. 0.81

01:10:11.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:10:11.000 If you really look at Barack Obama's what his legacy and what he actually brought to the United States in terms of punishment of whistleblowers, drone deaths, some fucking crazy number, like plus eighty percent of the people who killed by drones were innocent. 0.97

01:10:29.000 Incredible. 0.92

01:10:30.000 There's a lot.

01:10:31.000 But but that doesn't mean he wasn't a great spokesman and a great representative of America, because he certainly was, because he was brilliant and articulate and just seemed calm and measured and all those things are great. 0.99

01:10:45.000 But the reality is this fucking country is bought and paid for by huge financial interests who would like us to go bomb places because they make bombs. 0.99

01:10:57.000 They make weapons, and those weapons cost a fuckload of money, and they come up with all sorts of cute reasons why we should go fuck up Yemen. 1.00

01:11:05.000 And have you had Lindy Lee on your podcast? 0.98

01:11:08.000 No, but I was gonna get to this point. 0.99

01:11:09.000 But also, you have to have weapons because the rest of the world is fucked. 0.93

01:11:13.000 So it's like you have to have this balanced perspective on this stuff. 0.97

01:11:17.000 Like we won't we don't want war.

01:11:19.000 We should never want war.

01:11:21.000 You should celebrate a president that is core idea is no more war.

01:11:26.000 So people like, yeah, but he bombed Iran, right?

01:11:28.000 I think you had to.

01:11:30.000 I think it was like one of those one of these things with Israel with a negotiator.

01:11:33.000 Who's an opportunity?

01:11:34.000 I'll I'll bomb the site, I'll tell them to leave. 0.95

01:11:37.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:11:38.000 Because, you know, Israel's just bombing the shit out of Gaza, and they're like, they don't care about human shields, and they're like, fuck you, you guys you attacked us, it's over, we're gonna wipe you out. 1.00

01:11:48.000 So this guy is what he's done is if it sticks. 1.00

01:11:54.000 So here's the thing.

01:11:55.000 Does it stick?

01:11:56.000 I don't know.

01:11:57.000 I mean, they've always they've come to m multiple peace agreements in the past.

01:12:01.000 Didn't Hamas assass murder literally 32 members of one family because they were collaborating, quote unquote, with Israel in the street. 0.72

01:12:09.000 Do you see that? 0.98

01:12:10.000 I shot him in the head. 0.88

01:12:11.000 They shot a few guys. 0.93

01:12:12.000 I saw a few more.

01:12:13.000 It was more than a few.

01:12:14.000 Well, I only saw one where there was the three guys they shot in front of everybody.

01:12:18.000 And they probably were.

01:12:19.000 That's the thing.

01:12:20.000 The Mossad and the IDF are brilliant.

01:12:22.000 All right. 0.86

01:12:23.000 The reason why they got all those pagers to those guys and then blew their dicks off. 1.00

01:12:26.000 It's because they're fucking geniuses. 1.00

01:12:27.000 Right? 1.00

01:12:28.000 The reason why they invented Pegasus.

01:12:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:29.000 The ability to just listen to your fucking phone, read all your text messages, get all your dick pics. 1.00

01:12:35.000 That's right. 1.00

01:12:35.000 All that stuff. 1.00

01:12:36.000 Because they're brilliant.

01:12:37.000 And the of course they infiltrate every organization.

01:12:41.000 They infl that's how they get all their information.

01:12:43.000 They literally have a soldier that is so dedicated to Israel that they give their life to go pretend to be Hamas and probably even commit terror, just so that they can be legit. 0.72

01:12:54.000 And then that person will feed all the information to Israel.

01:12:57.000 That's right.

01:12:58.000 I mean, you have to have like the people who love Israel, one like I h you know, you could be one of those people like I hate Zionists, I hate Zionism, I hate what they've done. 0.90

01:13:07.000 I get it.

01:13:08.000 But what they are doing is the like most black belt version of tribalism. 0.97

01:13:17.000 The most black belt version.

01:13:18.000 Because they're because they have to.

01:13:20.000 Well, because every threat for Israel is existential.

01:13:23.000 One of the things I think the strength of Israel, the fact fascinating idea because when Trump made a speech at the Knesset, BB Netanyahu was booed by a lot of Israelis, and Trump was hailed.

01:13:36.000 And the point of that is that Israel is a democracy where they're constantly arguing with each other.

01:13:42.000 There's there's there's constant debate.

01:13:44.000 And your your job, if you're prime minister or whatever, is always precarious because there are people who are always going to be critical and they'll be Israelis. 1.00

01:13:52.000 Whereas there isn't this sort of monolithic sort of idea.

01:13:55.000 Like the Knesset has but the one thing that unifies Israelis, no matter what, they'll debate.

01:14:00.000 And you want to talk about the the war in Gaza and how it was per prosecuted.

01:14:09.000 But don't make one mistake. 0.97

01:14:10.000 You fucking when when they're threatened with their existence, you you want to threaten the existence of Israel, they'll unify right quick. 0.99

01:14:17.000 And they'll they'll fucking blow up pagers. 1.00

01:14:19.000 They got a thousand ways to get to you. 0.99

01:14:21.000 Because they have to do that.

01:14:22.000 The point is they they do infiltrate those organizations.

01:14:25.000 And they do do that.

01:14:26.000 However, why were you smiling just now?

01:14:28.000 Because I just sent Jamie a funny meme.

01:14:30.000 Oh.

01:14:32.000 I'll send one.

01:14:33.000 I'll show you one that's more offensive that we can't show on the air, but this one's one of my favorites.

01:14:38.000 Oh, I saw that.

01:14:39.000 I think you sent that to me.

01:14:41.000 I did.

01:14:43.000 It's so funny.

01:14:44.000 I that's see that keep this Israel be like we took out Hamas. 1.00

01:14:52.000 They shouldn't be laughing, but that's fucking ridiculous. 0.99

01:14:54.000 Bro, it's funny. 1.00

01:14:55.000 It is crazy.

01:14:56.000 Listen, this is you want to live, you want to live your life.

01:14:59.000 You can you gotta you can't decide what's funny.

01:15:01.000 You gotta laugh.

01:15:02.000 I'm not mocking anyone's death, and I'm I'm I think it's a terrible thing that it happened at all.

01:15:02.000 There's that's funny.

01:15:09.000 But it's also there's you know, this is the Charlie Cork question when Charlie Kirk was on Patrick Bet David.

01:15:14.000 It's like, why did it take so long for them to respond?

01:15:16.000 Was there a stand down order?

01:15:18.000 Was there like so pe people get all conspiratorial with stuff like that?

01:15:22.000 Then things get real weird because there is this thing that we don't want to believe, but we do know is true that there are certain groups in this world that are very motivated to have a war.

01:15:33.000 And you no one wants to believe that.

01:15:35.000 No one everyone wants to believe the only reason to have a military is because we're the just righteous great country of the United States of America, and we don't do anything unless we're defending ourselves or defending some other democracy that's being destroyed by communism or whatever.

01:15:51.000 Yeah, right.

01:15:51.000 We like to think that.

01:15:52.000 Yeah.

01:15:53.000 That's not totally real.

01:15:55.000 And Smedley Butler figured that out in 1933 when he wrote War as a racket.

01:16:00.000 And that's still today.

01:16:02.000 The idea that in 2025 that that's not the case anymore, that would be very naive.

01:16:07.000 People And it's not just America.

01:16:07.000 Right.

01:16:09.000 They profit from instability.

01:16:09.000 Right.

01:16:11.000 They profit and then they it also Bill Clinton literally said that BB, and this is Bill Clinton's words.

01:16:16.000 BB Netanyahu wants there to be a war, so he stays in power.

01:16:20.000 He said that.

01:16:21.000 Bill Clinton did recently. 1.00

01:16:22.000 He's like, fuck it, I'm old. 1.00

01:16:24.000 I'm gonna start telling the truth. 1.00

01:16:26.000 Tell somebody. 1.00

01:16:27.000 By the way, I love getting my dick sucked. 1.00

01:16:29.000 Can I tell you that's one of the number one reason why I became president? 1.00

01:16:33.000 They all wanted to suck it. 1.00

01:16:35.000 Everybody wanted to suck it once I was in that office. 1.00

01:16:38.000 They did, they did. 1.00

01:16:39.000 So I fucked up and I got one girl with a big mouth. 1.00

01:16:42.000 She was a little young. 1.00

01:16:43.000 I fucked up. 1.00

01:16:44.000 I got crazy. 1.00

01:16:46.000 Left a spot on her dress. 0.98

01:16:47.000 But he's he was saying this, and I guess he was just saying, look, look, the Epstein files are coming out. 0.94

01:16:52.000 Let me just fucking get real. 0.92

01:16:54.000 Let me just get real. 1.00

01:16:55.000 What do you if I gun to your head?

01:16:56.000 What do you think your best assessment of what uh Epstein who who was Epstein was he working for?

01:17:03.000 Well, I don't know, right?

01:17:05.000 So I'm just guessing.

01:17:06.000 Um everybody wants to say he was working for the Mossad, he very well could have been.

01:17:11.000 He could have been worker for the CIA.

01:17:13.000 He could have been a guy who was on his own but also working with them, right?

01:17:22.000 Like a guy that they used but they never fully endorsed.

01:17:25.000 Like an asset.

01:17:26.000 Yeah.

01:17:27.000 And a guy who could move money around.

01:17:29.000 He definitely could at laundering money.

01:17:31.000 The moving money around stuff was very weird because he had money through no way that anybody could ever explain.

01:17:37.000 Yeah.

01:17:38.000 He had an enormous amount of money through no way that nobody could ever explain.

01:17:43.000 Which, you know, if you're a state funded, you're funded by Israel and Israel's funded by America, and you know, there's also NGOs and nonprofits, and there's ways to move money around where you can give this guy money.

01:17:54.000 Yeah.

01:17:55.000 So he was like Weinstein, who is an economist, right?

01:17:58.000 Einstein's a legitimate mathematician.

01:18:00.000 Eric.

01:18:01.000 Yeah. 0.91

01:18:01.000 So when Eric met him, the his first m inclination was he was a fraud. 0.91

01:18:06.000 He's a construct. 0.84

01:18:07.000 Yeah, a construct.

01:18:08.000 And did he tell you the whole story about the girl sitting on his lap?

01:18:10.000 Yep.

01:18:11.000 So the Epstein, while he's meeting with uh Eric Weinstein for the first time, has a beautiful girl sitting on his lap, and he a woman.

01:18:19.000 I shouldn't say girl.

01:18:20.000 She was he said she was like tw in her twenties. 0.99

01:18:22.000 And she's sitting on his lap and he's bouncing around, so her tits are juggling around. 1.00

01:18:26.000 He's asking math questions. 0.99

01:18:28.000 Yeah, talking serious.

01:18:30.000 So he was obviously nerd fishing.

01:18:34.000 He was fishing for nerds, and I think he caught a lot of nerds in that net.

01:18:38.000 There's a lot of those guys that wound up going to that island, they probably thought, This is great, we get to party.

01:18:43.000 Nothing's free.

01:18:44.000 And they probably felt like they were rock stars because they get to hang out with the intellectual elite on an island with a guy who is just a billionaire philanthropist who's eccentric, who just loves women.

01:18:55.000 He's a professed bachelor, and it all seemed too good to be crew.

01:18:59.000 Because it was.

01:19:00.000 So he was, I think he was an asset, whether or not it was for the Mossad strictly or Israel strictly, or the United States strictly, whether it was a CIA thing, whatever.

01:19:11.000 I don't know.

01:19:12.000 But I think it was a probably a part of a black male comp compromise effort.

01:19:18.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:19:18.000 Because those guys, I there's a fucking dirty secret about these people that are in Congress, and they party. 0.98

01:19:25.000 Okay. 0.99

01:19:26.000 They're regular guys.

01:19:27.000 Yeah.

01:19:28.000 And regular women, and they're in their 30s or 40s or whatever they are, and every now and then they do coke and they get drunk and they killed it. 1.00

01:19:36.000 Human beings.

01:19:36.000 Remember that DC madam that had a whole book of people, and then she wound up committing suicide.

01:19:41.000 She said, I'm not suicidal, and yeah.

01:19:45.000 Because there's probably a lot like that.

01:19:47.000 And those kind of honeypot operations, they let these freaks know, like, hey, you're gonna be safe with me.

01:19:53.000 Charlie will take care of everything.

01:19:55.000 Look, Bill Clinton used to come here.

01:19:56.000 Don't worry about it.

01:19:57.000 Yeah, we're gonna go to the Irish. 0.94

01:19:58.000 And that's a big endorsement.

01:19:59.000 It's like presidents were here, so it must be a secure area.

01:20:01.000 Exactly.

01:20:02.000 We are on the island with Bill.

01:20:04.000 This is fine.

01:20:05.000 And all these girls show up, and you're like, well, this is Christmas in July.

01:20:09.000 Bill is really interested in string theory.

01:20:11.000 He'd like to talk to you about string theory. 0.99

01:20:12.000 So you're sitting down there having cocktails while Bill Clinton's getting a massage from some girl who's rubbing her tits against the back of his head while she's massaging you. 0.99

01:20:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:20:20.000 He's like, Yeah, that's really interesting. 0.99

01:20:22.000 Hey, I'm gonna I'm kinda tired.

01:20:24.000 I'm gonna take a nap.

01:20:25.000 Another thing about black holes.

01:20:27.000 Yeah.

01:20:28.000 And I think they all thought that it was this lovely exchange of powerful people and brilliant people, and then they were just getting dirt on all of them. 0.87

01:20:38.000 Guys cheating on their wives, guys, whether knowingly or unknowingly having sex with underage girls. 0.51

01:20:44.000 Everybody was maybe maybe some guys that was their thing.

01:20:47.000 Sure.

01:20:47.000 Because it seemed like with Epstein, that was his thing.

01:20:49.000 Yeah.

01:20:50.000 Yeah.

01:20:51.000 Yeah, that's what I think too.

01:20:53.000 That's I don't think there's any evidence to either.

01:20:55.000 I think it's all been.

01:20:56.000 I don't think there was collected with that plea deal.

01:20:58.000 And I don't think there's any list that's gonna point it.

01:21:00.000 There's no smoking gun.

01:21:01.000 That's all.

01:21:02.000 I don't know about that.

01:21:03.000 I think it's all been, you know, taken care of.

01:21:05.000 I I think that it's I think you can open up every file.

01:21:08.000 But that's the truth.

01:21:09.000 Why did they have all those files?

01:21:10.000 What'd they parade around with these binders? 0.99

01:21:13.000 And say do you remember those photo ops that they said?

01:21:16.000 Like, look, they did like a thing.

01:21:17.000 We have the Epstein files right here and they had binders.

01:21:21.000 Like what what kind of political theater is that?

01:21:23.000 If you don't really have the Epstein files, it's probably theater.

01:21:26.000 And what I mean by that is I think like if they are keeping something quiet, it's because it's it's video of underage girls or it's video of the victims who don't want that to be out there.

01:21:39.000 And that's you can't the Justice Department cannot make that public.

01:21:42.000 They cannot they cannot bring that to Congress.

01:21:44.000 That's all sealed for their privacy, right?

01:21:47.000 Well, that is the argument.

01:21:48.000 But then they're saying now that there are no files.

01:21:51.000 They're saying there's no video.

01:21:54.000 Oh boy, I don't know.

01:21:54.000 I think they have video.

01:21:56.000 I think if you've got an island and you want compromise on people, you can't just have hearsay. 0.99

01:22:00.000 I would say I watched him fuck that girl. 1.00

01:22:03.000 Let's let's let's sue him. 1.00

01:22:04.000 No, that's not how it works.

01:22:06.000 You have to have video, and then you have to show it to the guy.

01:22:09.000 Like uh Mr. Clinton, have a seat.

01:22:11.000 Yeah.

01:22:12.000 But I would agree with that, except for I think if there is video, that's somewhere in the in the archives of an intelligence agency.

01:22:20.000 That's not getting out.

01:22:21.000 And I think uh when he had that plea deal in 2008, uh he got tipped off, remember.

01:22:26.000 And when the feds or whoever when I think it was the Florida police department came to kind of collect all the evidence in Palm Beach, uh those computers weren't there anymore. 0.99

01:22:35.000 So all that shit was scrubbed, all that shit was taken out. 0.98

01:22:38.000 So part of a plea deal is you don't you don't collect evidence. 1.00

01:22:42.000 There is no evidence.

01:22:43.000 You d you d when you have a plea deal, nobody is collecting any evidence.

01:22:47.000 You understand?

01:22:48.000 So it's not like we're gonna collect evidence.

01:22:50.000 No, no, no.

01:22:50.000 The part of the plea deal is we are not this investigation is over.

01:22:55.000 You plead, you do your time uh in this jail where you have to you can go out and play golf during the day, but you have to come back and then you're gonna be able to do it.

01:23:02.000 No, he no, he was under home arrest.

01:23:04.000 He would only have to go there like a couple days a week.

01:23:07.000 He'd be in he'd have to go to the county jail in Palm Beach.

01:23:07.000 Right.

01:23:12.000 During the day, right. 1.00

01:23:14.000 So what that's what I'm saying is I think all that shit's a good thing. 0.99

01:23:18.000 I think he did like weekends in the jail. 0.99

01:23:19.000 I'm not kidding.

01:23:20.000 I think they allowed him to work.

01:23:21.000 Money talks, baby.

01:23:22.000 It's not just money talks, it's influence.

01:23:25.000 And the the guy who is the arresting sheriff was told this guy was intelligent.

01:23:31.000 Yeah, that's what he was told.

01:23:33.000 So I would assume that that guy's telling the truth because he's a sheriff, he's got no reason to lie, or whoever he was.

01:23:38.000 Right.

01:23:40.000 But I think there's a lot of super powerful people that are very, very, very wealthy, and they have the ability to say whether or not things get out.

01:23:51.000 I think I think it's interesting how some ideas take root and and stay strong.

01:23:57.000 Like, you know, sometimes you'll just find that people will just all of a sudden everybody will start agreeing on one thing.

01:24:02.000 Like that whole transgender movement. 1.00

01:24:03.000 Like that just came out of nowhere in a way.

01:24:06.000 I mean, it'd been around, it'd been percolating, but it gets co-opted.

01:24:10.000 And then all of a sudden everybody is just foreign governments for sure involved.

01:24:14.000 I mean, to what extent.

01:24:15.000 You mean like bots and stuff like foreign foreign influence?

01:24:18.000 China.

01:24:18.000 China spent a lot of money pushing transgender ideology on America.

01:24:22.000 Yeah.

01:24:22.000 That makes sense.

01:24:23.000 Yeah.

01:24:24.000 Um and this is not if you're a transgender person hearing this, it's not to deny you.

01:24:29.000 I'm just saying that what what China has done was push people further and further towards not just acceptance, but indoctrination. 0.76

01:24:40.000 And um I I think they also want outrage.

01:24:44.000 They want us fighting with each other about stuff.

01:24:47.000 So like they'll they'll push all kinds of crazy stuff. 0.80

01:24:51.000 Like one of the things that is really nuts that I used to bring up and people would say, This is ridiculous. 0.68

01:24:57.000 Who believes this? 0.92

01:24:58.000 It's that pedophilia is not a crime that is a sexual orientation. 0.99

01:25:05.000 This lady who's running for governor of California, this crazy lady. 1.00

01:25:10.000 Katie Porter that screams at her staff. 1.00

01:25:12.000 Get out of my fucking shot. 1.00

01:25:13.000 She's the worst. 1.00

01:25:14.000 She looks like the way she talks. 0.61

01:25:17.000 Like the way she talks when when the cameras are rolling and she doesn't think anybody's gonna see it? 0.97

01:25:22.000 Like what a monster. 0.83

01:25:24.000 But she did one of those interviews where she was talking about pedophilia and she was talking about minor attracted people.

01:25:32.000 You mean maps?

01:25:32.000 Yeah, see, I used to say that that they're talking about this in certain universities, and people like that is never going to go anywhere.

01:25:39.000 No one's gonna buy into that.

01:25:40.000 This lady's running for the governor of California, and she said that. 1.00

01:25:44.000 What is her exact quote on minor attracted persons or people that are but she was talking about criminalizing that?

01:25:54.000 Well, the idea can I tell you what the philosophy is there?

01:25:57.000 Because I've actually read about it.

01:25:59.000 Here's the idea. 0.97

01:26:00.000 You had you're a pedophile. 0.92

01:26:01.000 Which means, um, by the way, really weird thing. 0.95

01:26:04.000 You can look at this up, Jamie. 0.96

01:26:05.000 Uh, a lot of pedophile pedophiles are left-handed. 0.94

01:26:07.000 Did you know that? 0.99

01:26:08.000 Well, look out, lefties. 0.87

01:26:10.000 Well, the significance there is that it's neurological, right?

01:26:12.000 There's a there's a there's a condition in the brain, right?

01:26:14.000 Okay.

01:26:15.000 So you you're attracted to minors, it just happens to you, it's a curse. 1.00

01:26:19.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:26:20.000 I see a seven-year-old or whatever the fuck it is. 1.00

01:26:22.000 Um the idea is this you have this affliction. 0.99

01:26:27.000 You might be a you might be a person who's otherwise uh pays his taxes, loves his mom, loves his friends.

01:26:33.000 But don't act on this thing.

01:26:35.000 Now watch.

01:26:35.000 Right.

01:26:36.000 Now they have this overwhelming urge, the way somebody would have, say, if they're a gambler or whatever the fuck it is, and they have no one to talk to, because if they go to a therapist, the therapist has to tell the police. 0.85

01:26:46.000 Right.

01:26:47.000 So now you you have no one to talk to.

01:26:47.000 Okay.

01:26:49.000 So the idea just this is the idea is if we destigmatize pedophilia and call it a minor attractive person, and and you're allowed to talk to a therapist without having to be incarcerated, the idea would be maybe they can get help and they won't touch kids because a professional can help them, etc.

01:27:10.000 etc.

01:27:10.000 That's the idea.

01:27:12.000 I understand the I understand the I guess philosophy behind that, but it's it we get into this very dangerous territory where everything becomes medicalized and everything becomes an excuse.

01:27:26.000 So all of a sudden we find out, and we may Sapolsky says this.

01:27:30.000 Maybe in 20 years we find out serial killers just had something wrong with their brain, and if we had the same lesion on our brain, we'd be the same way.

01:27:37.000 I uh you know.

01:27:38.000 But it doesn't mean you don't put those people away because they are a danger to society.

01:27:44.000 There's a guy in Austin who stabbed uh a bunch of people at the university, and I think it was in 2017, and he's getting released.

01:27:51.000 He killed a kid.

01:27:52.000 Yeah, you can't do that.

01:27:53.000 Killed a very promising musician.

01:27:55.000 Um he went to a mental institution.

01:27:59.000 Um so they they I think they said not guilty for reasons of insanity.

01:28:04.000 So this guy's been on his medication and he hasn't hallucinated in a couple of years, and so now they're releasing him from this mental institution to some sort of uh a home where they monitor them closely.

01:28:16.000 No, until you can actually cut out that part of the brain.

01:28:21.000 So what did she say?

01:28:22.000 Actual statement context.

01:28:23.000 So what is her statement?

01:28:25.000 So she she said that she didn't say that minor attractive persons are pedophilia is an identity, nor did she say it's not a crime.

01:28:30.000 She her actual comments have been repeatedly re misrepresented online.

01:28:34.000 Right, but I saw the video.

01:28:36.000 Yeah.

01:28:37.000 Um what did she say in the video?

01:28:39.000 She never said it's not a crime.

01:28:40.000 No, she was saying that her comments were solely focused on condemning baseless and dangerous rhetoric against LBG.

01:28:48.000 Well, why how is that LGBTQ? 1.00

01:28:50.000 She was saying that people were making uh equivalence between LGBTQ community and groomers.

01:28:56.000 But let's listen, let's listen to what she actually said.

01:28:58.000 See if you can find the video for saying it.

01:29:00.000 Because then we'll get more understanding of it.

01:29:03.000 Just use uh the AI and try oh, here's a just see if you can find a video.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, I think that's it.

01:29:12.000 Here it is.

01:29:13.000 I wanted to start with um Miss Robinson, if I could.

01:29:13.000 Yeah.

01:29:16.000 Um your organization recently re uh released a report analyzing the five hundred most viewed, most influential tweets um that identified LGBTQ people as so-called groomers.

01:29:32.000 Um the groomer narrative is an age-old lie to position LGBTQ plus people as a threat to kids, and it what it does is deny them access to public spaces, it stokes fear and can even stoke violence.

01:29:46.000 Mr. Robinson, according to its own hateful content policy, does Twitter allow posts calling LGBTQ people groomers?

01:29:57.000 No.

01:29:57.000 I mean, Twitter along with Facebook and many others Have community guidelines.

01:30:01.000 It's about holding users accountable to those guidelines and acknowledging that when we use phrases and words like rumors and pedophiles to describe people, individuals in our communities that are mothers, that are fathers, that are teachers, that are our doctors, it is dangerous.

01:30:19.000 And it's got one purpose.

01:30:21.000 It is to dehumanize us and make us feel like we are not a part of this American society.

01:30:26.000 And it has real life consequences.

01:30:28.000 So we are calling on social media companies to uphold their community standards.

01:30:32.000 And we're also calling on any American that's seeing this play out to hold ourselves and our community members accountable.

01:30:39.000 We wouldn't accept this in our families.

01:30:40.000 We wouldn't accept this in our schools.

01:30:42.000 There's no reason to accept it online.

01:30:44.000 That's fair.

01:30:45.000 I mean, I think you're absolutely right.

01:30:46.000 And it's not, you know, this allegation of groomer and pedophile.

01:30:50.000 It is alleging that a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts merely because of their identity.

01:30:58.000 Um that's what it is.

01:31:00.000 So it's taken out of context. 0.97

01:31:02.000 So it's connecting it's connecting gay people and trans people to pedophilia by calling them groomers. 0.99

01:31:08.000 That's why I'm important to watch her what she actually said instead of getting your fucking information in snippets from TikTok from other people who have opinions. 1.00

01:31:16.000 You're being game. 0.96

01:31:18.000 Well, this is why a lot of people like hated Charlie Kirk.

01:31:20.000 That's the same thing from those.

01:31:24.000 Well, yes.

01:31:25.000 But also could have been avoided, you know, by not saying it the way he said it.

01:31:25.000 Yes.

01:31:30.000 Like there was some certain things that he said, like one of them when he was talking about um Katanji Brown Jackson, who's a Supreme Court justice who graduated from Harvard, Magda Cum Lottie.

01:31:42.000 Right.

01:31:42.000 So like saying that you got what is the exact words he used.

01:31:49.000 Like you didn't have the intellectual ability to be taken seriously.

01:31:54.000 No, he said that DEI will put people in the world.

01:31:56.000 Right, but he was saying of power.

01:31:59.000 I know what he's saying.

01:32:00.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:32:00.000 But what I'm saying is his his saying what he said that was fucked was you took the spot from a white person. 0.99

01:32:09.000 Like I know what he's doing. 0.99

01:32:11.000 He was trying to make a point.

01:32:12.000 Right.

01:32:13.000 And he was trying to make a point that affirmative action that we should be living in a meritocracy.

01:32:17.000 Right.

01:32:18.000 And that we shouldn't be having lower standards for people, but she didn't. 0.86

01:32:22.000 There's no evidence that she had any lower standards.

01:32:25.000 Part of the problem with Kentanji Brown Jackson is like you might disagree with her.

01:32:29.000 She's qualified.

01:32:30.000 Yeah, and I disagree.

01:32:31.000 When she when they asked her about what is a woman when she was getting confirmed, and she's like, uh, I'm not a biologist.

01:32:38.000 But you're a woman and you have kids.

01:32:38.000 Right?

01:32:40.000 So like cut the shit. 1.00

01:32:42.000 You're giving in to an ideology now. 1.00

01:32:44.000 You know what a woman is. 1.00

01:32:44.000 A woman is a biological female human being. 1.00

01:32:46.000 Yeah.

01:32:47.000 Does that mean that there aren't men who feel like they're a biological female human being and they have gender dysphoria?

01:32:52.000 No, it doesn't mean that.

01:32:53.000 That's true too. 0.99

01:32:54.000 But when you ask me what a woman is, it's a biological female human being that is responsible for every fucking life that's on earth. 1.00

01:33:03.000 It's like it's a very important distinction. 0.99

01:33:05.000 I think every human being on earth came from a woman. 1.00

01:33:09.000 But this goes back to you and I talking about when you're busy and you're trying to you're running a business, you're building a brand, you're trying to write jokes, whatever it might be.

01:33:17.000 I don't have time.

01:33:20.000 It's like the rest of us are trying to I got kids and I got bills and I got a lot of stuff I have to do.

01:33:24.000 It's it's really hard to do everything.

01:33:26.000 So you watch a snippet on TikTok and then you get an opinion of someone.

01:33:29.000 I also don't have time.

01:33:30.000 What do you mean by pronouns?

01:33:32.000 Right now I'm I'm busy over here.

01:33:34.000 Like I Right.

01:33:36.000 But you're also not indoctrinated.

01:33:38.000 You didn't go to school in 2015.

01:33:41.000 You know, you went to school a long time ago.

01:33:43.000 Here's my theory.

01:33:44.000 I want to hear what you think of this.

01:33:45.000 I was thinking about this.

01:33:46.000 I think part of the transgender thing, at least in colleges and among and it's interesting how it took root in places of higher education.

01:33:56.000 I think what happened was there was currency in being a minority.

01:34:00.000 There was currency in being oppressed.

01:34:03.000 There's currency in being somebody who's marginalized and struggling.

01:34:06.000 There's there's there's something when you are not that, when you are not in those positions, there's when you're looking at it, somehow it got a little bit romanticized.

01:34:15.000 Well, sure.

01:34:16.000 Especially if you're an advantaged, advantaged uh white kid, then you can be non-binary.

01:34:23.000 Yeah, no skin in the game.

01:34:24.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:34:26.000 You get to be a minority, and if you're black, brown, indigenous, you had to go through slavery hundreds of years of of brutal colonization.

01:34:34.000 But when you're white, you can be blonde hair, blue eyed, come from a great family, but you can be a minority on the same level as somebody who's black because you feel like it. 0.72

01:34:44.000 Because you, your your feeling, you have your feelings.

01:34:48.000 You feel like a minority.

01:34:49.000 Therefore, I don't have to pay a price for anything.

01:34:51.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:52.000 But I get to be on I get to be on the same level.

01:34:54.000 I can be a bigger minority than Dave Chappelle, who's a black man.

01:34:58.000 Because, you know, he's he's he's attacking me, so now I can attack him because I'm the most vulnerable minority.

01:35:06.000 And I think I hate to be cynical, but that's a big driver for a lot of people.

01:35:11.000 You know, I'm not saying that transgender people don't exist, but you think that's a good idea. 1.00

01:35:14.000 There's certainly that.

01:35:15.000 Yeah.

01:35:15.000 But there's also this cultural narrative that supporting that makes you a good person on the right side of things.

01:35:23.000 Did you see the the debate?

01:35:25.000 They had a debate on Vice.

01:35:26.000 Vice does these weird debates, and the the way they did this one was very strange.

01:35:30.000 Uh it was about uh it was women uh and these feminists and uh and these other women that were talking about um trans people and whether or not trans people are women.

01:35:43.000 And it got super performative.

01:35:46.000 And here I'll said it to you.

01:35:48.000 I want to do this on my podcast.

01:35:50.000 It got super performative and su i it was like well, trans women are women.

01:35:55.000 Like that's not an argument.

01:35:56.000 Like the what you're saying, this lady has a point about sh showers and locker rooms and and competing in sports. 1.00

01:36:03.000 And this is to deny that this is a point here, play this.

01:36:07.000 Trans women be included in feminist conversations.

01:36:11.000 How about in women's spaces? 1.00

01:36:13.000 Yes, they're women. 1.00

01:36:14.000 Oh boy.

01:36:15.000 Yeah, what's the question?

01:36:18.000 Trans women are women. 0.90

01:36:20.000 Um I want to come at this from the uh position. 1.00

01:36:23.000 Or perverts.

01:36:25.000 Um so I play semi-pro basketball, semi-pro volleyball. 0.88

01:36:28.000 So when it comes to like athletic spaces, I don't think that trans women should be allowed into athletic spaces. 1.00

01:36:34.000 Because I don't think it's a fair um I think we as a female athletes, we work so incredibly hard for the little opportunity there is in women's sports. 1.00

01:36:42.000 Would this be a barrier for the bigger?

01:36:43.000 Like this, there's no barrier, there's less opportunity in some industries that's a barrier.

01:36:47.000 There's less it's not no, no, no, it's on the market.

01:36:50.000 Okay, hold on, hold on, guys.

01:36:52.000 So again, we work very hard for the the little opportunity that we're given.

01:36:56.000 And the problem is, like, it we can't compete.

01:37:01.000 We can't.

01:37:02.000 Like I I'm six foot.

01:37:03.000 If I go up against a six-foot guy and I play basketball with him, he's gonna body me.

01:37:06.000 And what have I been against you?

01:37:10.000 Even if even if I have years more of training.

01:37:13.000 And so it's like you're taking away the little opportunity that we're given and we all work so hard for will be the end of women's sports. 0.99

01:37:20.000 Have you tried confidence?

01:37:22.000 You tried confidence.

01:37:23.000 Confidence can't make me bench what a guy benches.

01:37:26.000 I don't understand why you guys are so hostile.

01:37:28.000 She's sharing her experience in a specific field.

01:37:31.000 And I'd have to go.

01:37:32.000 No, she's not.

01:37:33.000 She's she's a woman who's no experience. 1.00

01:37:38.000 The what the woman who I watched that a long time ago. 1.00

01:37:38.000 Kill it. 1.00

01:37:41.000 Dressed like a man with short hair, said she's translated. 1.00

01:37:44.000 That's not a that's a that's a trans man, by the way.

01:37:46.000 Yeah, that's a man who's now a woman.

01:37:46.000 Oh, it's a man?

01:37:48.000 See, that I don't have a problem with.

01:37:48.000 Yes.

01:37:50.000 Try that.

01:37:51.000 You could go ahead and do that.

01:37:52.000 Yeah.

01:37:53.000 That doesn't bother me at all.

01:37:54.000 No. 0.99

01:37:54.000 Like if trans men want to invade men's spaces and pee next to us with a funnel, go for it. 0.99

01:38:00.000 I do not care at all. 1.00

01:38:02.000 Because you can't rape me. 0.92

01:38:02.000 You know why? 0.92

01:38:03.000 No.

01:38:04.000 Right? 0.99

01:38:04.000 That's the real problem with trans men is that men are creeps. 0.99

01:38:08.000 In especially in in female prisons and stuff. 1.00

01:38:10.000 Yes, yes.

01:38:11.000 Female prisons is a huge one. 1.00

01:38:12.000 Huge one.

01:38:13.000 But it's also just female locker rooms. 1.00

01:38:14.000 Like some guy with his dick hanging out is pretending he's a woman. 1.00

01:38:18.000 I thought that's real too. 1.00

01:38:19.000 There's trans women, and then there's perverts who enter into these spaces. 1.00

01:38:24.000 This is you given you've given them a Willy Wonka golden ticket. 0.96

01:38:27.000 It's like it's like pedophiles who found a a safe haven when they could put on a the the garb the robes of a priest.

01:38:33.000 And the crazy thing is like a lot of these things, like that one in LA with that uh the health club that was uh they got protested because they kicked trans woman out of the locker room.

01:38:44.000 Yeah. 0.80

01:38:44.000 Multiple times sex offender. 0.80

01:38:46.000 Yeah.

01:38:47.000 Multiple times sex offender.

01:38:49.000 What?

01:38:49.000 That happens sometimes.

01:38:51.000 So someone who's a fucking freak who decides, oh, I'm a woman now, and I'm just gonna let my dick shine. 1.00

01:38:58.000 Just polish it up in front of these ladies. 1.00

01:39:00.000 Right. 1.00

01:39:00.000 So you could just oil up your dick in front of, you know, some people who are just trying to get to yoga class. 1.00

01:39:05.000 I think that conversation's been won. 1.00

01:39:07.000 Yeah.

01:39:08.000 Hasn't it?

01:39:08.000 Not totally.

01:39:09.000 Look at those ladies. 1.00

01:39:10.000 Trans women. 1.00

01:39:11.000 That's a while ago.

01:39:12.000 That was five years ago.

01:39:13.000 Yeah.

01:39:15.000 Was it five years ago?

01:39:15.000 Yeah.

01:39:16.000 Um I think though here's what I think is important.

01:39:19.000 But the question just that.

01:39:21.000 What are we saying?

01:39:22.000 Yeah.

01:39:22.000 It's Katie Porter energy.

01:39:24.000 That's the same energy.

01:39:24.000 Yeah, like what?

01:39:26.000 They will they stop the conversation, right?

01:39:27.000 You gotta you gotta I don't want I'm not gonna talk to you, I've already made up my mind.

01:39:30.000 Well, that's a religion, though, right?

01:39:31.000 That's a religious person.

01:39:32.000 That's a religion.

01:39:33.000 You're you're going along party lines the same way you would, you know, by not eating things that are haram.

01:39:33.000 Yeah.

01:39:40.000 I try to I try to um I think that if you're gonna be like Haram's bad, right? 0.96

01:39:45.000 Halal. 0.65

01:39:45.000 Haram is a is an Arabic term for essentially against God in a way. 0.65

01:39:51.000 It's forbidden.

01:39:51.000 Haram, I think means forbidden.

01:39:53.000 But um that's how I said haram. 1.00

01:39:56.000 Is sucking dick's haram? 0.99

01:39:57.000 Well, only if you're if you're smiling, I think if you're frowning, you're allowed to. 1.00

01:40:01.000 I'm not sure how I'm saying.

01:40:02.000 You know what's really crazy?

01:40:03.000 The number one place uh in the world for the longest time where people got transgender surgeries was Iran. 0.97

01:40:10.000 And it wasn't because they were supportive of transgender people, it was because they were punishing gay people.

01:40:14.000 So the only Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:40:15.000 So the only way to be a uh a gay man in a gay relationship, one of you motherfuckers is gonna have to lose a dick. 1.00

01:40:22.000 Now I wonder if that's true. 1.00

01:40:24.000 I heard that actually, and I wonder what that is it.

01:40:27.000 Wow.

01:40:27.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:40:28.000 Yeah.

01:40:28.000 Yeah, they they would punish horrifying to punish somebody that way.

01:40:33.000 Yeah.

01:40:34.000 I don't know if it's still number one, but I think that's also the the origin of lady boys in Thailand.

01:40:34.000 Jesus Christ.

01:40:40.000 I think a lot of them yeah.

01:40:42.000 I think it for a long time it was illegal to be gay in Thailand.

01:40:45.000 I saw some very looking at the city.

01:40:47.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:40:48.000 If you're gonna be a g a trans person, being a small Asian really helps. 1.00

01:40:52.000 Not a Samoan. 1.00

01:40:53.000 Bad bone structure.

01:40:53.000 Right.

01:40:55.000 Bad bone structure, sir. 0.89

01:40:57.000 But the mountain is trans, it's a real is not gonna go well if Brian Shaw is not gonna make a pretty woman. 1.00

01:41:03.000 Imagine him being on that volleyball team.

01:41:03.000 Right.

01:41:06.000 We have no high heat.

01:41:07.000 I mean she, she's a woman.

01:41:07.000 He's a woman.

01:41:09.000 Yeah.

01:41:09.000 Trans women are women.

01:41:10.000 What's the question?

01:41:11.000 Yeah, good luck.

01:41:12.000 What's the question?

01:41:13.000 Good luck.

01:41:13.000 What is it?

01:41:14.000 What are you saying?

01:41:15.000 You f you should be studied in a museum.

01:41:18.000 They should they're gonna one day they're gonna look at that lady and that ideology, like, look at this virus that infected these people's brains. 0.99

01:41:23.000 Crazy. 0.97

01:41:24.000 It's bananas.

01:41:25.000 But you know, but the I think like with the Charlie Kirk thing when people were celebrating, right?

01:41:29.000 Horrible.

01:41:30.000 But I I was saying, man, we better hold ourselves to it. 0.99

01:41:32.000 If you want to be somebody who's let's call I call myself a traditionalist or whatever the fuck it is. 0.94

01:41:36.000 Maybe I'm a little right to center, depending on the subject, maybe I'm left in this. 0.98

01:41:40.000 But I thought that was horrific. 0.99

01:41:41.000 But you gotta hold yourself to a high fucking standard. 0.99

01:41:44.000 Meaning, you know, Trayvon Vart Martin's killer, George Zimmerman, he signs autographs at gun shows. 0.99

01:41:50.000 He signs Skittles.

01:41:52.000 You know, I know they had a struggle and stuff, but that was a kid who was doing no crime at all. 0.99

01:41:56.000 Right, he was just being harassed by a guy who's playing a crap. 0.98

01:41:59.000 And and and and that guy's gun sold for something like 250,000. 0.98

01:42:03.000 So how do you think his family feels?

01:42:05.000 How do you think people on on that side? 1.00

01:42:06.000 So don't be a fucking hypocrite. 1.00

01:42:09.000 It's real easy to be a hypocrite. 1.00

01:42:11.000 Right. 0.96

01:42:11.000 And I and what Charlie Kirk was guilty of doing nothing other than taking his ideas and pitting them against all comers. 0.96

01:42:18.000 That's beautiful.

01:42:19.000 Right.

01:42:20.000 And if you disagree with those ideas, the real way to handle it is to address them.

01:42:24.000 Beat it with a better idea.

01:42:25.000 But the problem is most people don't have an opportunity to communicate with him.

01:42:30.000 And so they see these young kids communicating with him on these college campuses and him t trouncing these young kids, and you see things getting, you know, combative or argumentative, and then you see clips.

01:42:41.000 And so the clips, the little tiny ones, like you don't have the intellectual capacity to be taken seriously.

01:42:48.000 And so you you got to take your spot from a white person.

01:42:52.000 Like just that clip is a real problem because he didn't have to say it that way, but I know what he was trying to say.

01:42:58.000 He would what he should have said is a more qualified person because in reality, the people that get the discriminated the most in when it comes to particularly universities, are Asians.

01:42:58.000 Yeah.

01:43:10.000 So if you wanted to like have a a theory of white supremacy, that goes out the window when you look at standards that universities have because the people that they discriminate against the most are Asians.

01:43:24.000 Chinese. 0.98

01:43:28.000 Crush. 0.93

01:43:28.000 They crush Because they have old school immigrant mentality, as Joey Diaz likes to say. 0.93

01:43:34.000 You'll never see by the way, you will never see a Chinese or an Asian but Chinese Korean or Japanese person.

01:43:38.000 You'll never see them complain.

01:43:40.000 You will be able to do that.

01:43:42.000 Bobby's different things.

01:43:44.000 But Bobby's also hilarious.

01:43:45.000 A few made it through the net that will complain about it.

01:43:47.000 Bobby's a comic though.

01:43:48.000 Bobby's like a great comic, so it's different.

01:43:49.000 But it is, but I'm just joking.

01:43:51.000 But for the mo, yeah, for the most discipline is the part.

01:43:53.000 No.

01:43:54.000 But they are hard working.

01:43:56.000 Like as a group, they excel.

01:43:58.000 They're hard working people.

01:44:00.000 And they they rarely complain and they rarely protest.

01:44:03.000 So when they have to sue Harvard, it's probably because of something real.

01:44:08.000 And it turns out it was because of something real.

01:44:10.000 And it's not just Harvard, it's multiple universities have higher standards that they apply to Asian people because the Asian people work harder and because they don't want their school to be overrun by Asians. 1.00

01:44:21.000 But I say tough shit. 1.00

01:44:23.000 If you can't compete, this is a fucking meritocracy. 1.00

01:44:25.000 It's a meritocracy. 1.00

01:44:26.000 If it's a they did the same thing to Jews in in the 50s in Harvard.

01:44:29.000 All these Jews were getting into Harvard, they were like, we have to have a quota, there's going to be overrun with Jews. 1.00

01:44:35.000 But then there's also the reality that people that live in poor communities have way shittier schools and way less funding and way less hope, and that's bad for everybody.

01:44:46.000 Right.

01:44:46.000 So I don't think the the solution is to let unqualified people in.

01:44:52.000 And this is like with affirmative action pissed a lot of people off.

01:44:56.000 I think the solution is find the root of the problem and tump pump a bunch of resources into cleaning up communities and making these schools better and making these communities better and coming up opening community centers and giving people a chance to get the fuck out of whatever give them some trades or skills or teach them sports or music or something that gives them hope that they can do outside of gang banging and selling crack.

01:45:22.000 And the the you know the thing that I always point to is that that could be you.

01:45:28.000 If you were born in that area, that would be you.

01:45:30.000 That's a human being that's trapped in this community.

01:45:34.000 I don't think the solution is take this guy who's got C's and give him a job over a guy who gets straight A's.

01:45:41.000 I think the solution is find out why this guy has C's, where did he come from?

01:45:45.000 Why has this place been ignored?

01:45:46.000 If we're real if if leaders are real leaders, why would you ignore the most disenfranchised people in the world unless you're using them as political pawns?

01:45:56.000 What you should do is try to figure out a way to make it profitable for businesses.

01:46:00.000 The same way Halliburton b pa like when we blew up Iraq, Halburton came in and made a shit ton of money rebuilding things. 0.98

01:46:07.000 Make it profitable to make these fucking communities safe again. 0.99

01:46:10.000 Make it profitable to rebuild. 0.99

01:46:12.000 But you have to start with telling the truth.

01:46:14.000 Okay. 0.99

01:46:15.000 And people don't want to so you we can't even get out of the fucking gates. 0.99

01:46:18.000 So if I say something like the biggest problem in some communities, by the way, certain white communities, definitely in certain black communities, the biggest problem is fatherlessness. 0.99

01:46:29.000 If I say that, there are plenty of people that say that's that's we're we're already I'm already gonna push back because you're already being racist.

01:46:39.000 Right.

01:46:40.000 Right.

01:46:40.000 It is a statistic.

01:46:40.000 Correct.

01:46:41.000 It's like seventy percent.

01:46:42.000 So you know, that's one of many problems.

01:46:46.000 Right.

01:46:46.000 But y I had I never forgot when it comes back to Chinese stuff.

01:46:49.000 I remember when so if you look at what the Chinese did to Manchuria in the in the 30s, Iris Changer wrote a book about it.

01:46:56.000 I thought it was I think it was called The Rape of Nan King.

01:46:58.000 She did all the research.

01:47:00.000 I'm sorry, the Japanese, I'm sorry, the Japanese Chinese. 1.00

01:47:02.000 And and uh Iris Chang ended up killing herself. 1.00

01:47:06.000 And I think her mother or someone said it was because of the just the trauma of doing the research of what they did.

01:47:12.000 Well, they had contests to see who could kill the most people in a short amount of time with their sword.

01:47:17.000 It was the most ferocious killing besides I think Rwanda in the history, but a concentrated number. 0.58

01:47:22.000 And I said to my Taekwondo teacher, I was I was in college, and he was Korean, and I said, Why haven't the Chinese asked for some kind of reparation? 1.00

01:47:31.000 Why haven't they sort of like asked for formal apologies and stuff?

01:47:35.000 And he said, Because in in Asian culture, Chinese, Korean culture, Japanese culture.

01:47:40.000 The idea is this the Chinese said, Oh, well, that happened to us because we allowed it to happen. 0.99

01:47:48.000 We didn't we didn't have our guard up.

01:47:50.000 We weren't strong, and it'll never happen again, because you're never doing that to us again. 0.88

01:47:54.000 And it was really fucking wild. 0.97

01:47:55.000 I was like, damn, man, that's all that's a crazy thing. 0.99

01:47:58.000 But that's that's inherent to that culture, which is radical responsibility. 0.99

01:48:03.000 Like you're responsible, I don't give a fuck. 0.98

01:48:06.000 Chinese people have dealt dealt with a lot of discrimination. 0.99

01:48:09.000 I believe the word chink comes from uh them working on the railroad. 1.00

01:48:13.000 So the sound of the ching ching, you know, like that. 1.00

01:48:16.000 Yeah, I think that's where it look that up, Jamie.

01:48:18.000 That's where that that that but they'd suffered a shitload of discrimination.

01:48:23.000 And they just set up shop anywhere in the worst neighborhoods, whatever it was.

01:48:26.000 They just always Chinese restaurant right now, probably in the Congo.

01:48:29.000 Well, let's find out.

01:48:30.000 Let's use Perplexity, which is one of our sponsors.

01:48:32.000 And see if that's where the origin of the word chink came from.

01:48:32.000 Thank you.

01:48:36.000 Even saying that right there, somebody could just clip that out.

01:48:40.000 They're using slurs.

01:48:41.000 It comes from me, it doesn't matter.

01:48:42.000 They're using slurs.

01:48:44.000 Um but that does make sense because they just they then no excuses, they just excel. 0.98

01:48:49.000 You'll you'll learn how to play a fucking classical instrument fluently and be great in finance. 0.71

01:48:54.000 How did they get people to work on the railroads specifically from China? 0.98

01:48:58.000 Like what was the origin of the colour?

01:48:59.000 I think they came here, I think it was part of the gold rush, and I think uh a number of them came here uh uh on the West Coast, I think, through San Francisco.

01:49:08.000 And how'd he wind up being the predominant workforce of they needed labor?

01:49:14.000 Chink is an English. 1.00

01:49:15.000 So etymology, sorry if I'm wrong about that.

01:49:19.000 Uh iron chink fish butchering machine. 1.00

01:49:24.000 1905, replace many Chinese laborers in fisheries and reinforce the slurs prominence as a racist term during that period.

01:49:32.000 Oh wow, so that's crazy.

01:49:35.000 So instead.

01:49:37.000 So the derogatory application may also stem from a resemblance to chink meaning a narrow opening or a crack, like a chink in the armor.

01:49:45.000 Huh?

01:49:47.000 Well, I guess I was wrong.

01:49:48.000 Well, but the fish butchering machine was about it's an iron, it was doing the work of the Chinese people. 1.00

01:49:55.000 So why that's why they call it an iron chink. 0.99

01:49:57.000 It's like a slur of the machine.

01:49:59.000 It's not like they were named after the machine.

01:50:02.000 Uh initially applied to Chinese immigrants, it's used broadly to target Eastern Asian people in general.

01:50:07.000 So what was the origin?

01:50:08.000 When did it start?

01:50:10.000 Well, some of it So eighteen eighty.

01:50:14.000 I'm coinciding with increased Chinese immigration to North America during the late 19th century when anti-Chinese sentiment was strong.

01:50:22.000 Yeah, it seems like it's just short for China.

01:50:25.000 All right, my bad.

01:50:26.000 No worries.

01:50:27.000 Sounded good.

01:50:27.000 Makes sense though.

01:50:28.000 Sounds like one of those things someone says in a barbershop.

01:50:30.000 But I heard that from a Chinese person, so I was like, oh, that must be right. 1.00

01:50:33.000 Interesting.

01:50:34.000 Well, he probably believes it too.

01:50:35.000 Yeah.

01:50:36.000 He needs to use AI.

01:50:37.000 Gotta use AI.

01:50:42.000 You know, there's there's things that are just not factually correct, or there's a problem where whatever government or agency or whatever you're researching has pushed so much propaganda through that the standard of what you like standard of care or standard of education or standard of whatever is this incorrect stuff.

01:51:04.000 Like one of the weird things that Hubman was saying when um he he was talking to one of his colleagues who is a physician, uh, and he said, what percentage of what is in the medical literature is incorrect?

01:51:20.000 And he said 50%.

01:51:21.000 Yeah, I heard that.

01:51:22.000 It's crazy.

01:51:23.000 50% in medical school is incorrect.

01:51:26.000 So you could l research something like that and you know, and it's in the medical literature, so the AI would assume that it's correct.

01:51:34.000 Uh huh.

01:51:35.000 But it is not correct.

01:51:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:51:37.000 Because people are full of shit. 1.00

01:51:39.000 Right. 1.00

01:51:40.000 And they don't like to be corrected, and they don't like to admit when they're wrong and go back.

01:51:45.000 And they also don't like to rewrite history books and they don't like to rewrite things.

01:51:49.000 They push back real hard against that stuff.

01:51:51.000 Right.

01:51:52.000 You know, like this idea that we're always on this like constant search for truth.

01:51:56.000 So yeah.

01:51:57.000 Some people and some people under constant search to protect their ego and their reputation because they've said one thing in the past, so that's the lie.

01:52:06.000 And they wrote books about it.

01:52:06.000 Yes.

01:52:07.000 Right.

01:52:08.000 And they have to lie and obfuscate because they can't admit that they were wrong.

01:52:12.000 I remember this guy who said uh he came up with the whole theory on echinacea, which is good for colds.

01:52:17.000 And then they did this exhaustive study about echinacea, and they were like, listen, we've done 25 studies. 0.99

01:52:23.000 It doesn't make a fucking dent, which I can attest to because I take a shitload of a fucking stay stay stick a shit. 0.99

01:52:28.000 Yeah, people used to say echination golden seed. 1.00

01:52:30.000 That's right.

01:52:31.000 And I took the those two. 1.00

01:52:32.000 And I used to take the shit out of those probably Hippie chicks. 1.00

01:52:35.000 Ah fuck, man. 1.00

01:52:36.000 That's their idea. 1.00

01:52:37.000 Yeah.

01:52:38.000 You need to take echinacea.

01:52:39.000 Okay.

01:52:40.000 Somebody gave it to me and it was on the tail end of my cold, and I was like, I'm better. 1.00

01:52:43.000 And then I was like, I'm taking this fucking fuck off. 1.00

01:52:45.000 What is the benefit? 1.00

01:52:46.000 Like, what do they say echinacea does?

01:52:48.000 Is it supportive of the colour?

01:52:50.000 It's viral and antiviral.

01:52:52.000 Anyway, the guy who came up with the idea goes, I'm still taking it.

01:52:55.000 That was his response.

01:52:56.000 Well, let's find out what this what does the studies show?

01:52:58.000 Ask Perplexity.

01:52:59.000 What do the studies show about echinacea?

01:53:01.000 I saw that with seed oil.

01:53:03.000 I looked at them too.

01:53:04.000 Ced oil is apparently there's no studies that say it's bad for you.

01:53:06.000 Yeah, but it's bad for you.

01:53:07.000 Is it?

01:53:08.000 Yeah, it's it's industrial lubricant.

01:53:10.000 It's not really even like just if you know all the process that's involved in in in making it, it's also not nearly as healthy as olive oil, and you can get olive oil.

01:53:19.000 Just use olive oil. 0.99

01:53:20.000 Stop fucking around. 1.00

01:53:21.000 Or use beef towel oil. 1.00

01:53:21.000 I do. 1.00

01:53:23.000 It's not human food, man. 1.00

01:53:25.000 It's processed bullshit. 1.00

01:53:27.000 Right. 1.00

01:53:27.000 Like that just that alone. 1.00

01:53:29.000 Right. 0.98

01:53:29.000 Like olive oil is fucking super healthy for you. 0.98

01:53:32.000 Really good for you. 0.98

01:53:34.000 And you can use that.

01:53:34.000 So why do you why are you using that?

01:53:36.000 It's cheaper. 0.54

01:53:38.000 Of course, it's also it's disgusting.

01:53:40.000 Like the way they make it, have you ever seen the way they make seed oils?

01:53:45.000 Um what does it say?

01:53:46.000 Immunity and cold prevention.

01:53:47.000 Many studies suggest echinacea may help support immune function and possibly reduce the number and severity of upper respiratory infections.

01:53:53.000 Some trials some trials found a small reduction in cold risk or illness duration while high quality reviews show little to no statistically significant benefit over placebo.

01:54:04.000 That's all we need to know.

01:54:05.000 We're good.

01:54:08.000 But again, that's part of science, right?

01:54:09.000 Like you you you look at the you do a study, you see what works, right?

01:54:13.000 And if it doesn't, it doesn't.

01:54:14.000 Right.

01:54:14.000 But this stuff is complicated.

01:54:16.000 Sure.

01:54:17.000 You know how you do a study, what you leave out, also who's funding the study.

01:54:21.000 Who's funding the study's huge?

01:54:22.000 Whether or not Fauci.

01:54:24.000 How big was the study?

01:54:25.000 Yeah, all that stuff.

01:54:26.000 And then and then a lot of the stuff is also like you have to have expertise in that field to even understand the research.

01:54:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:54:32.000 Also, studies are much like corrupt boxing judges.

01:54:36.000 It's like, what's the purpose of this?

01:54:39.000 Like what are you trying to do?

01:54:40.000 You're trying to make a lot of money. 0.84

01:54:41.000 If you're trying to make a lot of money, you can make a study where you can take a dosage that's preposterous and give it to a group of people, and this fucks them up.

01:54:50.000 And then you you have a great base of saying this is a dangerous drug.

01:54:54.000 Right.

01:54:54.000 Well, they didn't.

01:54:55.000 I was watching this guy who's on Patrick Bet David's show.

01:54:58.000 There's something that I did not know.

01:54:59.000 Do you know that heroin was created?

01:55:02.000 It was termed as a solution to morphine addiction.

01:55:07.000 Wow.

01:55:08.000 But it is morphine.

01:55:10.000 It's just slightly different.

01:55:11.000 It's just like methanol. 0.99

01:55:13.000 Methadone's fucking terrible for you. 0.99

01:55:15.000 And that's what they use to get people off of heroin. 0.99

01:55:17.000 I remember I knew people who were who would go to the methadone clinic.

01:55:19.000 We'd call them the metadonians.

01:55:21.000 We'd when those playing pool at executive billiards in White Plains, New York, it was right down the street from a methadone clinic.

01:55:27.000 And the Methodonians would get their method.

01:55:34.000 Intended to treat morphine addiction and serve as a cough suppressant.

01:55:38.000 Wow.

01:55:39.000 Now here's what's really crazy.

01:55:40.000 Do you know that when they were inventing this stuff?

01:55:44.000 One of the things that they also came up with was acetaminophin.

01:55:47.000 And acetaminophen they didn't want people to take because in studies they show that it fucks rats up.

01:55:54.000 In their liver. 0.94

01:55:55.000 Like this is like all these crazy liberals who are not they're taking Tyranol because RFK Jr. said don't take it. 1.00

01:56:01.000 So like fuck you, I'm taking Tylenol and I'm pregnant. 1.00

01:56:04.000 Maybe it's okay to take Tylenol if you're pregnant. 1.00

01:56:06.000 I don't know.

01:56:07.000 But what I do know is it's the number one source.

01:56:11.000 Acetamenophane is the number one source of acute liver failure in America.

01:56:15.000 Five hundred people die in America every year from liver failure because of taking acetaminophen.

01:56:22.000 So don't take it.

01:56:24.000 Or it's or it's or it's uh a dose thing, right?

01:56:27.000 So I know it's most certainly a thing.

01:56:28.000 If a woman's pregnant and she her temperature goes way up, it can get it. 0.99

01:56:32.000 Right.

01:56:33.000 So you got you there's a there's a there's a dosage you take that apparently is okay, right?

01:56:37.000 So you can take a perhaps yeah.

01:56:39.000 I don't know how you would find out I don't know anything about having another woman with the exact same body take Tylenol and not have a problem and one to take to nothing and that's the thing I asked you about.

01:56:49.000 Remember the meat thing where I talked to this guy who who said that right.

01:56:53.000 Hold on a second.

01:56:53.000 What is the side, Jamie?

01:56:54.000 Is acetamenophen has no direct chemical or historical connection with the invention or development of heroin.

01:57:00.000 No, no, that's not what we're saying.

01:57:00.000 Yeah.

01:57:02.000 No, they they developed is bare.

01:57:04.000 They developed acetamenophen as well.

01:57:07.000 It wasn't that it had a connection to heroin.

01:57:09.000 It was just another thing that they developed that they didn't want to release because they found that it had problems.

01:57:14.000 Yeah, but this is the guy on Patrick Bett David.

01:57:15.000 Not in he wasn't saying that it was uh developed as a substitute for heroin, as no, it's not nothing like heroin.

01:57:21.000 Did you see what Patrick Bett David said about Porter?

01:57:25.000 See who about Katie Porter or whatever name is? 1.00

01:57:27.000 No, I didn't.

01:57:28.000 It was so funny.

01:57:29.000 He goes, I just want to shout out to Katie Porter.

01:57:31.000 She's fantastic.

01:57:32.000 He's just like, just keep going, man.

01:57:34.000 I just keep talking that way.

01:57:36.000 And he was just but the way he was doing it, it sounded like he was supporting her, but it was just like just keep on going.

01:57:41.000 You're telegenic.

01:57:42.000 This is fantastic.

01:57:43.000 You're great. 0.99

01:57:44.000 He's fucking so funny. 0.94

01:57:46.000 I love that guy. 0.94

01:57:47.000 He's a great guy.

01:57:48.000 I love that dude, man.

01:57:49.000 I get along with Mr. That that is uh uh an unfortunate situation.

01:57:49.000 He's a great guy.

01:57:53.000 And now she's right now drowning in anxiety.

01:57:57.000 The the wave of the people that are attacking her, and even unjustly, because of the clip that we pulled up.

01:58:03.000 Right.

01:58:04.000 Where she was talking about people connecting groomers to just regular LBGT people or LGBT people. 1.00

01:58:10.000 Um the uh just the wave of hate that's coming her way, especially when she yelled at her staff, get out of my fucking shot. 1.00

01:58:18.000 Like we all know that kind of person. 0.99

01:58:20.000 Yeah.

01:58:21.000 We all know that.

01:58:21.000 We know who you are.

01:58:22.000 That's who you really are.

01:58:23.000 That's who you are.

01:58:23.000 That's the real year.

01:58:24.000 We've seen people like that.

01:58:25.000 We know those kind of people.

01:58:26.000 Yeah.

01:58:27.000 Well, you know, I I actually, as I get older, I think um how you think and what you actually hold in your mind and your heart, even if you try to keep it a secret.

01:58:38.000 It comes out it it will always come out.

01:58:40.000 That's why podcasts are so good. 1.00

01:58:41.000 Fuck yeah, man. 1.00

01:58:42.000 It's like, listen, your brain is a garden, you gotta de-weed it. 1.00

01:58:45.000 You gotta keep your brain, you gotta keep your mind on the good things. 1.00

01:58:49.000 People are gonna fuck you over. 0.99

01:58:50.000 You gotta r you gotta you gotta forgive them or you'll turn your own back on your future. 0.99

01:58:54.000 All those little challenges.

01:58:56.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:58:56.000 You're gonna have you're gonna have hard shit that goes on. 0.99

01:58:58.000 You're gonna come home, your wife is gonna need you, you got kids, you can't bring that shit home. 1.00

01:59:02.000 That that is the discipline. 1.00

01:59:03.000 That's being a warrior. 1.00

01:59:04.000 Not all this fucking other stuff. 0.99

01:59:06.000 Like I'm fucking practicing my double and single, like I have no idea why I love my son's taking jujitsu so I like to teach him. 0.98

01:59:11.000 But but at the end of the day, uh the the challenges are keeping your mind and your heart pure. 0.95

01:59:16.000 And I I I never used to speak this way, but as I get older, that's kind of really what I believe. 0.98

01:59:20.000 Because it's gonna fucking you you're not getting away with it. 0.97

01:59:23.000 Well, that's why you should stay off social media because you'll have enemies all day long. 0.99

01:59:26.000 Uh and there's a lot of people that are our age that are complete addicts.

01:59:30.000 They're just especially the left people for whatever reason.

01:59:33.000 But uh, I shouldn't say that.

01:59:34.000 I know a lot of people on the right are addicted to it too.

01:59:36.000 Oh yeah. 1.00

01:59:37.000 But it's just addicted to these arguments that people have constantly every day, calling people assholes and losers, and you're just carrying around all that bullshit with you all day. 0.99

01:59:45.000 That's exhausting. 0.97

01:59:46.000 Which is why I don't do it. 0.86

01:59:47.000 I mean, I could I could go in on fucking every person that ever wronged me or this, that, and said bad things about me. 0.89

01:59:54.000 Like, come on. 0.98

01:59:55.000 I always say, listen, I have friends that I'm getting hate.

01:59:55.000 I always do that.

01:59:58.000 I'm like, listen, dude.

01:59:59.000 If you're getting hate, you're doing something right. 1.00

02:00:02.000 Or you're a cunt. 1.00

02:00:02.000 And maybe you should get your shit together. 1.00

02:00:05.000 Maybe the people are right. 1.00

02:00:06.000 Or you're a cunt. 1.00

02:00:07.000 It's you never know. 1.00

02:00:08.000 Like, you know, there's a certain amount of criticism that you should respect.

02:00:11.000 You should look at it and go, but a lot of it is straw man criticism.

02:00:14.000 And the the reason why people are doing it is not really, they're not really criticizing you or what you stand for.

02:00:19.000 They're making up a thing.

02:00:21.000 I like it.

02:00:23.000 And then they're attacking that.

02:00:24.000 I get I get checked up sometimes.

02:00:26.000 I I'll I I no longer like I'll read a book and I'll become an expert.

02:00:29.000 Like I'll read a book, a half a book on nutrition. 0.99

02:00:32.000 You'll read a fucking headline. 0.99

02:00:34.000 But I'll read a headline, bro. 1.00

02:00:35.000 And I'm and you better sit down at my feet because I got some shit to teach you. 0.99

02:00:38.000 And uh I was. 0.99

02:00:44.000 Really important thing.

02:00:45.000 He said, Stop teaching.

02:00:47.000 Stop trying to teach people.

02:00:48.000 You're not an expert.

02:00:49.000 Wow.

02:00:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:00:50.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:00:51.000 And you know, in his case, it was very personal because Terrence was talking about mathematics and physics and it was really important for him. 1.00

02:00:59.000 Because like you know, we know Eric very well.

02:01:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:01:02.000 And but there's a lot of people who think Eric's an idiot, which is hilarious. 1.00

02:01:05.000 That's hilarious. 1.00

02:01:06.000 It's funny.

02:01:07.000 Good luck with that.

02:01:08.000 And smart people. 1.00

02:01:09.000 There's smart people that decided he's an idiot in a fraud. 0.99

02:01:11.000 And I I've seen videos where smart people are tearing him apart. 0.99

02:01:14.000 And I'm like, that's interesting.

02:01:16.000 Okay, that's so uncharitable and uh not necessary.

02:01:20.000 And even if you have criticisms about the way he communicates, you gotta understand that the way he communicates to him is normal.

02:01:26.000 Right?

02:01:26.000 Yeah.

02:01:27.000 Because he's really fucking smart. 0.82

02:01:28.000 He's an inherently decent, Beautiful person. 0.95

02:01:30.000 He's a great guy.

02:01:31.000 He's a great guy.

02:01:31.000 I love that guy.

02:01:32.000 He's a genuinely great guy.

02:01:34.000 And he's, you know, not the kind of guy that goes out of his way to try to ruin other people.

02:01:37.000 He's not doing that at all.

02:01:37.000 No.

02:01:39.000 And so I get that there's a there's a currency in criticizing people.

02:01:44.000 Like you can get clickbait headlines and clickbait videos, but that all comes at a cost too, because I'm never gonna really respect you.

02:01:52.000 Because I'm gonna think that w what you're doing when you're doing that kind of stuff is and I get it, it's because if it's a business, you're doing it on YouTube, it's the best way to get clicks.

02:02:00.000 But you this this just so gross going out of the way to attack people, it's not smart.

02:02:06.000 No because you're gonna be that guy forever. 1.00

02:02:08.000 And then one day you're like fifty or sixty, and you've built your whole brand on being a cunt. 0.99

02:02:15.000 But also that same critical out that same critic comebacks to you. 0.99

02:02:18.000 It comes it turns around and comes back at you.

02:02:20.000 Oh, it's when you try to do something, because being good at anything is very hard. 0.98

02:02:25.000 Like I got I'm fucking dropping my special and I gotta write a whole new I've been writing all new shit. 0.99

02:02:31.000 That's fucking hard. 0.98

02:02:32.000 Not repeating yourself, trying to like shake up your paradigm, it's really hard. 0.99

02:02:36.000 It and and you go through some days where you're like, I'm I'm never gonna write a joke again.

02:02:40.000 Right. 0.99

02:02:40.000 And if somebody sees you on one of those days where you're eating dick, they're like, Oh my god, he's terrible. 0.99

02:02:45.000 Okay. 0.99

02:02:45.000 Right. 0.99

02:02:46.000 Well, I've seen people say that about Louie. 0.98

02:02:47.000 Like a friend of mine saw Louie in the the cellar, he's like, Oh, he sucked. 0.99

02:02:50.000 I go, No, he doesn't suck, dude. 0.89

02:02:53.000 He's got new bits that are brand new, and if you see an hour from or a year from now, that hour will be a polished masterpiece. 0.98

02:03:00.000 Oh dare you.

02:03:01.000 But it doesn't come out of the box perfect, and the only way to ever develop it is you have to have the courage to trot these ideas out and try to find where the funny is in them.

02:03:10.000 And sometimes the funny isn't there, and you think it is, and you go looking around, you go, All right, folks, and no other way.

02:03:15.000 There's no other way.

02:03:16.000 You've got to be able to do that. 0.94

02:03:20.000 But you know I did an interview on a radio thing, and uh this fucking guy who was hit he had just started doing stand-up was criticizing the ha quote unquote that right wing hack comedian named Jim Brewer. 0.97

02:03:33.000 And I went, I turned that interview, I was like, are you calling Jim Fucking Brewer a hack? 1.00

02:03:40.000 Do you know how funny that motherfucker is? 0.99

02:03:41.000 You know how hard so funny. 0.99

02:03:42.000 Do you know how hard it is to be to do what that dude does? 1.00

02:03:45.000 Like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:03:47.000 You've never done you have ten minutes of material. 1.00

02:03:49.000 Shut up. 1.00

02:03:50.000 That guy's a that guy kills me. 1.00

02:03:53.000 You ever see his routine about the fucking when his cat got in a f got the shit kicked out of him by a raccoon? 1.00

02:04:00.000 Oh dude. 1.00

02:04:02.000 Who's your mother now? 1.00

02:04:03.000 He just got this shit. 1.00

02:04:05.000 He's so physically physically funny. 1.00

02:04:07.000 Oh my god.

02:04:09.000 Yeah, he's never not.

02:04:12.000 Funny then.

02:04:13.000 He was great.

02:04:14.000 Goat boy.

02:04:14.000 He was phenomenal.

02:04:15.000 And he's a great guy, too.

02:04:17.000 He's a great guy.

02:04:18.000 And it's just like people are always trying to build themselves up by taking other people down.

02:04:18.000 Great guy.

02:04:23.000 And it's historic.

02:04:25.000 It's been going on forever.

02:04:26.000 It's always the case.

02:04:27.000 And it's normal. 1.00

02:04:28.000 Like when you're young and you're coming up and you see people that are doing better than you, like, fuck that guy. 1.00

02:04:32.000 It's normal. 0.98

02:04:33.000 But it's not beneficial.

02:04:35.000 It's not good for you.

02:04:36.000 You can use it to inspire you.

02:04:38.000 Yeah.

02:04:38.000 That's what I do.

02:04:39.000 I've done what they do.

02:04:40.000 I've hated on people.

02:04:41.000 I I definitely did when I was younger.

02:04:43.000 It's just not smart.

02:04:44.000 It's not it's not a good strategy for life.

02:04:46.000 Doesn't help you.

02:04:47.000 It's you know, you you your identity gets too wrapped up in conflict, and it's just like super unhealthy. 0.99

02:04:53.000 Well, people our age who are still doing that shit. 0.99

02:04:56.000 Don't comics. 1.00

02:04:56.000 Of course. 1.00

02:04:57.000 Mark Marin, don't say it.

02:05:00.000 I mean, I don't get it.

02:05:01.000 You know, I'm like, I I don't know.

02:05:02.000 I I get it.

02:05:04.000 He's sad.

02:05:05.000 He's sad.

02:05:06.000 He wants other people to hurt.

02:05:07.000 That's uh what it is.

02:05:08.000 It's just not charitable.

02:05:09.000 It's it's well, it's also he's pathologically jealous. 0.99

02:05:13.000 Like he's been pathologic, he's like literally mentally ill. 0.93

02:05:17.000 Like, do you understand?

02:05:18.000 Mark, when he first started when he was just first coming up, was friends at Mitch Hedberg, and then Mitch Hedberg hit, and he couldn't be friends with him anymore.

02:05:24.000 Really?

02:05:25.000 Stop being his friend.

02:05:25.000 Yep.

02:05:26.000 Same thing with Louis CK.

02:05:28.000 Louis CK and him were tight.

02:05:29.000 Louis blew up, Mark didn't. 0.99

02:05:32.000 He he had to fucking hate him. 0.99

02:05:34.000 And it turned on him. 1.00

02:05:35.000 Talk shit about him, talk shit about him openly. 1.00

02:05:38.000 And then he became successful. 1.00

02:05:40.000 And the years where Mark was successful were the best years of Mark.

02:05:44.000 Because Mark was fun.

02:05:46.000 Like I've had ups and downs with Mark.

02:05:47.000 I've gone through this with him like three or four different times.

02:05:50.000 where we, he gets upset at me, and then we talk, and then are we good? 0.99

02:05:57.000 He likes to talk shit about you, and then you confront him and he says, You're right. 0.95

02:06:01.000 And with me, my my relationship with him was really complicated because when I was an open micer, I was twenty one years old, and I was just starting out. 0.99

02:06:09.000 Mark gave me a compliment once that really helped me.

02:06:12.000 He came up to me and he said, Hey man, you're really funny.

02:06:14.000 He's just Keep doing what you're doing.

02:06:15.000 Don't let don't listen to anybody else.

02:06:17.000 Just keep doing what you're doing.

02:06:18.000 I was like, wow, thank you.

02:06:19.000 That's his best side.

02:06:20.000 That's the good side.

02:06:21.000 It is not all bad.

02:06:22.000 And he was a young guy back then, right?

02:06:24.000 So he was just being cool.

02:06:25.000 And then over time, obviously I became more famous than him and more successful than him.

02:06:31.000 And he does not like that. 0.99

02:06:33.000 He fucking hates that. 0.99

02:06:34.000 And the only time we were cool was when Mark was number one. 0.98

02:06:38.000 So Mark, the podcast took off, and you gotta realize it took off when he was deep into his 40s, right?

02:06:43.000 And it was the number one podcast in the country. 0.95

02:06:46.000 And he was on Rolling Stone magazine, and you know, he had his own show on IFC, The Marin Show, and he was fucking great. 0.91

02:06:54.000 He was cool to hang with. 0.60

02:06:55.000 He was fun.

02:06:56.000 Because he didn't have to compare himself to anybody anymore because he's he was a success.

02:07:02.000 Like he could look at his own success.

02:07:03.000 He was doing a television show, he had his podcast, everything was great.

02:07:08.000 And we were cool.

02:07:09.000 Like we were friends.

02:07:10.000 Like I'd see him, I'd give him a hug, I said, What's going on?

02:07:13.000 We were like, we're friendly at the store.

02:07:13.000 We would talk.

02:07:15.000 We never hung out off, you know, off-site.

02:07:18.000 But we were friendly.

02:07:19.000 Like we had pushed all the beef aside, and he even did my podcast.

02:07:22.000 We had a great time.

02:07:24.000 And then um, I started getting more successful, and then my podcast passed his.

02:07:31.000 Then my podcast became number one.

02:07:33.000 And then the Spotify deal. 0.99

02:07:35.000 And that's when he started talking shit about me. 0.99

02:07:37.000 So he started talking shit about me long before all this Trump stuff. 0.99

02:07:41.000 This Trump stuff is just the most recent iteration of this bizarre thing that he does with people. 0.99

02:07:48.000 And the first thing was he had decided that I was an asshole, like just because the podcast took off. 0.99

02:07:56.000 But it was n it was not a big deal. 0.98

02:07:59.000 It was like I'd heard people say that he was saying things.

02:08:01.000 But then after the Spotify deal, the Spotify deal was a real problem.

02:08:07.000 And that's when he started coming after me.

02:08:09.000 And it was about vaccines.

02:08:11.000 Like, so he was talking about me on stage about vaccines.

02:08:15.000 It's like, by the way, everything I said was correct.

02:08:18.000 The people that I had on my podcast were like Robert Malone, who got criticized.

02:08:23.000 He has nine patents in the creation of MRNA technology.

02:08:26.000 He's a vac he's a vaccinologist.

02:08:27.000 He's an he took the vaccine himself and had a horrible adverse event, which is when he started becoming critical of it.

02:08:35.000 And then he started doing the science and looking into the papers and the research, and he was trying to sound the alarm.

02:08:39.000 He was right.

02:08:40.000 He was right.

02:08:41.000 All these people, Dr. Pierre Corey, he was right.

02:08:44.000 Peter McCullough is the most published doctor in human history in his particular field of expertise.

02:08:52.000 Which is immunology.

02:08:54.000 It's kidney disease.

02:08:56.000 I I don't it I don't exactly very well published in a credit scientist.

02:09:03.000 So these are the people that I had on that were talking about this stuff.

02:09:08.000 It had nothing to do with that, with that Marin was upset at.

02:09:14.000 I think though, it's another thing.

02:09:15.000 I think some people have a very traumatic experience when they're younger.

02:09:19.000 It could be high school.

02:09:20.000 And you represent an avatar of that experience.

02:09:25.000 So we just spent the I don't know, the first fucking third of this podcast was about fighting, working out, and all that stuff.

02:09:31.000 There's a physicality there. 0.94

02:09:33.000 You uh you are a physical guy.

02:09:36.000 You're physically imposing. 0.99

02:09:37.000 You you know, you can choke somebody unconscious, punch them in the face, blah, blah, blah. 0.88

02:09:42.000 That that meathead persona, that kind of like uh forward tilt, that yang energy, that very hyper male energy.

02:09:52.000 Some people have a very bad experience with that kind of energy when they're young.

02:09:56.000 I understand, but you have to judge people and straw man people and pretend that they're of course you do.

02:09:56.000 They might be.

02:10:02.000 He likes to pretend that I'm like a mean job.

02:10:04.000 But that's what I'm saying is that you've got to like, as an adult, after a while, you have to come to terms with whatever emotional reaction you have to, whatever this avatar is that you've put all this stuff on, which we all do.

02:10:14.000 I think you've got to take your tele that after a while, you gotta go, hey, this is where I gotta let go of all that stuff, and I gotta take the person at face value.

02:10:21.000 Yeah, but this is a you're talking about introspection.

02:10:24.000 That's not him.

02:10:24.000 He doesn't have that.

02:10:26.000 He he does when confronted, and he'll he'll apologize.

02:10:29.000 Like, that's his whole thing.

02:10:30.000 Are we good?

02:10:30.000 We good, and then you'd hug it out with people.

02:10:32.000 He also lies.

02:10:34.000 Like one of the things he lied about, he's he did a podcast with um uh Howie Mandel, and Howie Mandel asked him uh if he had problems with comedians.

02:10:42.000 Like, no, I don't have any problems with any comedians.

02:10:44.000 I've never had any problems with comedians.

02:10:45.000 Like, what are you talking about?

02:10:46.000 He's had a problem with every single comedian that's more successful than him.

02:10:50.000 Bill Burr, Louis CK, Dave Chappelle, me, Tony Hinchcliffe, everybody that passes him, all of a sudden he and he talks about them on stage, and the Theo thing really drove me nuts because that sent Theo into a real spiral.

02:11:03.000 Did it?

02:11:04.000 Yeah.

02:11:05.000 Well, Theo went into a spiral, and that was a big part of him getting attacked was Maron talking about him on a special, saying that he'd have Hitler on his podcast.

02:11:14.000 Well, why is he saying that?

02:11:15.000 Does he think that's true? 0.98

02:11:16.000 Does he think it's does it think that Theo has anybody on his fucking show, including Bernie Sanders. 0.99

02:11:23.000 He's learning. 0.99

02:11:24.000 He's talking to learn.

02:11:25.000 He'll talk to people, and you know, he will talk to anybody on his podcast.

02:11:29.000 That's not what the thing is.

02:11:31.000 The thing is that Marin's podcast, which was number one, isn't even in the top 100 anymore.

02:11:37.000 I don't even think it's in the top 200.

02:11:40.000 It went away.

02:11:41.000 And it went away, not because he did anything.

02:11:44.000 He didn't get arrested.

02:11:46.000 There was no scandal.

02:11:47.000 People just stopped being interested in it.

02:11:49.000 And I think that hurts the most.

02:11:52.000 Why did they stop being interested in it?

02:11:53.000 It's not good.

02:11:55.000 Here's a part of it.

02:11:56.000 Like the conversations that he has are fine.

02:11:59.000 But the beginning of the podcast is he's like self-indulgent rants about life and him doing things.

02:12:06.000 And there's a thread dedicated on like Reddit where people fast forward to the time, like they give you the time stamp of when he's done ranting, so you can just get to the interview.

02:12:17.000 Because nobody wants to hear it.

02:12:19.000 Like it's like it's an inside joke.

02:12:23.000 But it just that's the reality is it's like Theo passed him, like rocketed past him, and now he has like the number two or number three podcasts in the world.

02:12:34.000 Sometimes there's a there's a thing that people do when you're older where you say that person passed me, and then you criticize the culture that got them past it.

02:12:42.000 Well, this thing is mad, but the thing is that Marin never developed an audience for his comedy, and he always felt like he deserved it.

02:12:48.000 And that's what drove him the most nuts.

02:12:50.000 He always felt like he deserved it.

02:12:53.000 But it's like you deserve what you get.

02:12:54.000 You know what he has a record for?

02:12:57.000 Um one of those ticket things, what it's Ticketmaster, whatever one.

02:13:01.000 Number one for selling single seats.

02:13:05.000 That's interesting.

02:13:07.000 Oh, that's really interesting.

02:13:08.000 So people with no friends.

02:13:09.000 That's interesting.

02:13:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:13:11.000 Fucking things. 1.00

02:13:11.000 Really? 1.00

02:13:12.000 Sad people.

02:13:13.000 Sad people that identify the way he behaves in in their actions.

02:13:16.000 I always look at it this way.

02:13:17.000 Like I, you know, somebody we were doing this thing, and Ryan Reynolds, people talking about how he gets hate or he gets criticized.

02:13:23.000 And I was like, look, man, I don't know about that.

02:13:25.000 I just know that I tried really, really hard to be Ryan Reynolds.

02:13:29.000 I did, I tried my hardest.

02:13:31.000 I was an acting class. 1.00

02:13:33.000 I went on every fucking audition. 0.99

02:13:34.000 I got I did okay. 1.00

02:13:35.000 I was on a couple sitcoms and some movies and stuff.

02:13:38.000 But for whatever reason, I didn't I'm not Ryan Reynolds.

02:13:42.000 You know why?

02:13:43.000 I'm just in probably in some ways, hate to say it.

02:13:46.000 I'm I think I'm really good at comedy, but maybe I'm just not as good.

02:13:49.000 Or maybe just for whatever reason, I didn't do it.

02:13:51.000 Maybe he was smarter in this other area.

02:13:53.000 But either way, he's like, Well, the reality is, man, there can only be like a couple of runs.

02:13:56.000 That's fine, but I'm not gonna hate on the guy because of it.

02:13:58.000 Thousands and thousands and thousands of people that are trying.

02:14:02.000 I tried hard, man.

02:14:02.000 I did.

02:14:04.000 But see, that's the difference between that and comedy.

02:14:06.000 See, comedy is a much more of American talk, much more of American.

02:14:10.000 Very much.

02:14:11.000 If you're funny, you can get an audience.

02:14:13.000 Yeah.

02:14:14.000 And there's there's Jim Brewer's audience, and then there's Nate Bargotzi's audience, and there's Kevin Hart's audience, and there are everyone can you can get an audience.

02:14:23.000 Like, you just have to put your work out there, and people resonate with your work.

02:14:27.000 And you might not like these guys. 0.96

02:14:29.000 You might say this guy sucks, or that guy sucks, and I like this guy. 0.99

02:14:33.000 No, no, no, it's fine. 1.00

02:14:34.000 You're allowed to have personal taste.

02:14:35.000 Just like there's personal taste in music that I don't like.

02:14:39.000 But the proof is proof is in the pudding.

02:14:41.000 Do you people come to see you? 0.97

02:14:43.000 Do you put asses in seats, they enjoy the time, or is it an angry bomb where you're on stage ranting about other comedians? 0.98

02:14:52.000 Well, that's Marin. 0.99

02:14:53.000 And he does that all the time.

02:14:54.000 Tim Dylan was just saying he was doing that in LA the other day.

02:14:58.000 Just ranting about all the comedians that are the at the Riyadh comedy festival.

02:15:02.000 Which is all, you know, like legitimate area of criticism, if you can make it funny. 0.98

02:15:08.000 Like is you know, you're working for the Saudi government and they've definitely done some stuff that's fucking horrible. 0.92

02:15:14.000 But the the this the root of it all is not real. 0.89

02:15:18.000 It's not that he cares so much that he wants everyone to do the right thing.

02:15:23.000 That's not it.

02:15:24.000 It's he's upset that all these people are getting attention.

02:15:26.000 He's upset that all these it's very childish. 0.98

02:15:29.000 And but he'll make it look like you know, he's the righteous side, the left, the progressives, he's the voice now, and he's gonna fucking you know, we got work to do, we gotta get these fascists out. 0.96

02:15:40.000 No, it's it's but it's about him getting more attention. 0.96

02:15:43.000 That's what it ultimately is all about.

02:15:45.000 And that's unfortunate.

02:15:46.000 And um, I'm not mad at him.

02:15:48.000 And if I saw him and I talked to him, we were cool, I'd give him a hug.

02:15:52.000 You're just gonna be able to do that.

02:15:52.000 But he wants to pretend just honest.

02:15:54.000 Right, but he wants to pretend that everybody else is bad and mean, and that this is this is like the reason why they have they're successful.

02:16:01.000 Or that they're hacks.

02:16:03.000 Or that the culture is corrupt. 1.00

02:16:05.000 Well, he also says some dumb shit like, you know, you can stop making fun of trans people. 1.00

02:16:09.000 They can't get health care. 1.00

02:16:10.000 That's one of the things he said.

02:16:11.000 Like, what are you talking about they can't get health care?

02:16:13.000 Healthcare is care that makes you healthy.

02:16:16.000 The law that got passed was stopping chemical castration drugs and surgery for underage children that are confused.

02:16:26.000 And you know how many kids are yeah, don't be able to do that.

02:16:28.000 By the way, these j these things that they call hor like hormone blockers. 1.00

02:16:33.000 You can't puberty blockers.

02:16:34.000 But hold on, hormone blockers, that's not what they originally were used for.

02:16:39.000 We know that like medicine can be used off label, right?

02:16:42.000 And the idea of that initially was there was only like you know, a hundred different kinds of medicine, and you could figure out what would work and you could prescribe it for different things and off-label uses.

02:16:53.000 The stuff that they're using, what they're calling puberty blockers, is the same drugs that they used to give to sex offenders for chemical castration.

02:17:03.000 It's the same drugs. 0.99

02:17:04.000 It's fucking unbelievable. 1.00

02:17:05.000 It's chemical castration drugs, and you're giving it to children. 1.00

02:17:08.000 Yeah.

02:17:09.000 And then there's this narrative that it can be reversible.

02:17:11.000 No, it's not. 1.00

02:17:12.000 No, you go through you're gonna have a micro penis for the rest of your life, you're gonna have fucked up vocal cords, you're getting your your whole body is both. 1.00

02:17:19.000 Bone density sucks, strokes. 1.00

02:17:21.000 There's a lot of like weird fucking horrific side effects. 1.00

02:17:24.000 It's so fucking evil to me. 0.99

02:17:25.000 Right. 1.00

02:17:26.000 So his straw man is transgender people can't get you you should stop talking about him, man. 0.95

02:17:31.000 They can't get medical care, they can't get health care. 0.94

02:17:33.000 Like, yeah.

02:17:33.000 Are you happy?

02:17:34.000 That has never been the case.

02:17:38.000 He's just trying to get you to limit the amount of things that you're talking about that people want to hear.

02:17:42.000 Right.

02:17:43.000 That's really what he's doing. 1.00

02:17:44.000 It's like a really selfish, self-oriented fucking thing. 0.99

02:17:48.000 It's not righteous. 1.00

02:17:49.000 That's what's the crazy thing about it.

02:17:51.000 And people are gonna find that out, man.

02:17:53.000 They're gonna dig into you.

02:17:55.000 They're gonna listen to the things you say and what the way you behave and the things you've talked about. 0.95

02:18:00.000 Saying, you know, like that the whole reason why everybody voted for Trump is because they wanted to say the word retard. 0.91

02:18:06.000 That's a straw man.

02:18:07.000 Like it was a really funny bit, I get it.

02:18:08.000 It's okay.

02:18:09.000 It's not that good a bit.

02:18:10.000 But it's a straw man.

02:18:11.000 That's not true.

02:18:12.000 What everybody wanted was they realized there was a crazy thing happening where the border was wide open.

02:18:17.000 Right.

02:18:18.000 And 20 million people got in in four years that weren't supposed to be here.

02:18:21.000 Right.

02:18:22.000 But does that mean that you support everything that they're doing now?

02:18:25.000 Or are they kicking people out?

02:18:27.000 No.

02:18:32.000 No, no, that's not cool either.

02:18:34.000 The military in the street, I think is a dangerous precedent.

02:18:37.000 But also, why are you allowing people to just riot on the streets and burn down buildings?

02:18:42.000 Yeah, why do you have to lock up toothpaste in Washington, DC?

02:18:45.000 Toothpaste.

02:18:45.000 You gotta lock it up.

02:18:46.000 San Francisco is that good?

02:18:48.000 No, it's look, there's there's there's a balance to be had here, and there's a conversation to be had, but it's not in straw man arguments where you're saying that the only reason why people want is because they wanted to say this these comedians are just voting for fascism.

02:19:02.000 No, I want this is why with my podcast, like I was I got to a point where I was having I was interviewing people, right?

02:19:08.000 It was great.

02:19:09.000 But the problem is I I don't I after a while for me, like there are too many people like you who do it really well.

02:19:15.000 I would love, and I don't know if I'll be able to I think I talked to you about this, just to get people on two different sides to have a discussion.

02:19:23.000 Just to find out, like just to kind of get to a so in other words, can we just try to approach this as solving a problem?

02:19:30.000 We don't like to be the right two people.

02:19:31.000 It's hard to get them though.

02:19:32.000 But I that's what's hard to get him, but it also has to be two people that were actually just trying to state their points.

02:19:38.000 You know, it's a really good example of that recently.

02:19:40.000 Coleman Hughes uh had he's great.

02:19:43.000 Had Dave Smith on his podcast.

02:19:46.000 Very good conversation.

02:19:48.000 Super balanced, intelligent, calm level, especially from Coleman.

02:19:53.000 Coleman's supervisor.

02:19:54.000 Wow. 1.00

02:19:54.000 He's a killer. 1.00

02:19:55.000 He's so good. 0.97

02:19:56.000 And it was, you know, one of the rare times where I think Dave was kind of stomped in certain situations.

02:20:01.000 And it's great.

02:20:02.000 Oh, Dave probably learned a lot.

02:20:04.000 It's great.

02:20:05.000 Yeah.

02:20:05.000 I mean, you had a very interesting point about the Wesley Clark thing.

02:20:08.000 Do you see that?

02:20:09.000 I did.

02:20:09.000 But like he never saw the memo.

02:20:09.000 Yeah.

02:20:11.000 Like he was told what was in the memo.

02:20:13.000 He's like, you understand that if you're writing a history book, that wouldn't even be you couldn't even put that in the book.

02:20:18.000 Which is accurate.

02:20:19.000 It's absolutely accurate.

02:20:21.000 It doesn't mean that they didn't actually do that, though.

02:20:21.000 It's accurate.

02:20:23.000 And it seems like that's a that is exactly what happened, which is like kind of convenient.

02:20:28.000 Well, he addressed that too, but I know what you're saying.

02:20:30.000 It's like again.

02:20:31.000 But it's also like a brilliant debate.

02:20:34.000 Yes.

02:20:34.000 And never never get to the case.

02:20:36.000 And I learned you learned things from that.

02:20:37.000 You're not going to see Mark Marion one of those.

02:20:40.000 And that's the bummer.

02:20:41.000 It's like if you if you have these ideas you're standing on and you're vocal with them, right?

02:20:46.000 Then you should be willing to put them on the table and see how they war against another idea.

02:20:53.000 And you also should entertain the other person's perspective.

02:20:56.000 The problem is like Dave has been saying it one way for the longest time.

02:21:00.000 And when Coleman said that I think the correct response is that is true.

02:21:05.000 Yeah.

02:21:06.000 You got a really good point.

02:21:07.000 However, no, you really win.

02:21:07.000 You won.

02:21:07.000 You're right.

02:21:09.000 Because they did do exactly what was in that memo.

02:21:13.000 I mean, they did overthrow every single country except for Iran. 0.90

02:21:17.000 No, no, no, because he said, in fact, we did it with a number of other regimes, but there were I think three or four countries in that memo that they we haven't done that with.

02:21:24.000 But they've been going after those specifically.

02:21:24.000 Right.

02:21:27.000 And those a lot of them did did get toppled.

02:21:30.000 This was Rumsfeld.

02:21:30.000 But it's also yeah, and it is interesting that that is a strategy that the United States employs and that we do topple regimes and that we you know we do.

02:21:38.000 We have in the past.

02:21:39.000 We have been involved in that.

02:21:41.000 And to deny that I think is kind of crazy.

02:21:42.000 Right.

02:21:43.000 And we also really do a good job of taking advantage of opportunities.

02:21:48.000 And when 9-11 happened, that's when they passed through the Patriot Act.

02:21:51.000 Like that's when they they started taking it.

02:21:53.000 That was the birth of the surveillance state, sir.

02:21:55.000 Exactly.

02:21:55.000 They know they know everything about you.

02:21:57.000 I talk about this in specialists, like they know a woman's pregnant based on her migratory shopping pattern, sir.

02:22:02.000 Interesting.

02:22:02.000 So they can th based on your migratory shopping pattern, they can pick up that you're that you are with child.

02:22:02.000 Okay.

02:22:10.000 And you don't before she knows it, before she knows it.

02:22:13.000 That's crazy.

02:22:14.000 Okay.

02:22:14.000 That's what's crazy.

02:22:16.000 They have cameras with full gate recognition.

02:22:18.000 So the way you're gate changes are how you walk is in the cloud.

02:22:23.000 There you that is a signature for you.

02:22:26.000 Okay.

02:22:26.000 Forget your biometrics.

02:22:27.000 Cover your face all you want.

02:22:29.000 They have cameras that can pick up how you walk.

02:22:32.000 The mathematics of how you walk is just like your fingerprint.

02:22:35.000 They also have a laser that can shoot into your heart into your body and pick up your heart signature, sir.

02:22:41.000 So good luck hiding from the state.

02:22:44.000 It's here and that's it.

02:22:45.000 Your privacy is one of the things that they were saying when it came to the abortion um debate that I thought was very interesting that I hadn't considered, is that they were um they were talking about prosecuting women that left a state where abortion was illegal and went to a state where it was legal and then returned.

02:23:07.000 Yeah.

02:23:07.000 And that they were going to do this based on apps.

02:23:10.000 So women have apps where they track their ovulation, and that they could get the data from these apps. 1.00

02:23:15.000 I think it's it's outrageous.

02:23:17.000 Yeah.

02:23:18.000 And it's also that's where it gets really creepy because it's a lot of Christian fundamentalists. 0.99

02:23:24.000 Well, it actually hinges.

02:23:26.000 It actually hinges on murder.

02:23:28.000 So if you if you if somebody came across state lines and murdered somebody, you could do that. 0.95

02:23:28.000 Right. 0.95

02:23:33.000 That's that's absolutely legitimate.

02:23:34.000 When you define abortion as murder, okay, then that is there is a there are strong legal grounds to establish that precedent. 0.59

02:23:44.000 Sure, but you're also not supposed to be prosecuting, say if you're in Texas, you're not supposed to be prosecuting someone for the actions that they did in Oklahoma.

02:23:52.000 That's a federal crime.

02:23:52.000 Unless it's murder.

02:23:54.000 So they if they approach it that way.

02:23:54.000 Okay.

02:23:56.000 Yeah.

02:23:56.000 Yes.

02:23:57.000 So you you you you certainly were a republic, But and and so there are statutory laws, but they do not supersede in many cases uh federal law if it's something like murder.

02:24:07.000 That's a capital crime.

02:24:08.000 The problem is you're getting giving men the ability to track women's behavior in a way that I think it's hugely problem for that.

02:24:15.000 Also, when there's a significant portion of this country that believes women should have access to abortions. 0.99

02:24:20.000 And for you to say no, and it's their body, that that gets slippery.

02:24:25.000 This is where this is where we get into it gets real slippery, and that gets into the more of a libertarian area, you know, where I think that's probably where I land a lot of the time.

02:24:36.000 Now you're sounding like a leftist slash libertarian.

02:24:39.000 It's so weird, right?

02:24:40.000 It's hard to label anybody.

02:24:42.000 When it comes to live and let live and accepting people for whatever it is, whether they're gay or whether from another country, like I'm open to everybody.

02:24:50.000 I want you to just be cool.

02:24:51.000 Be nice and be cool and try to do a good thing with your life and enjoy yourself and not harm others.

02:24:57.000 When you're running when you're still when you're so when you have policy, the problem is we get into the the weeds, technology creates problems that are major because typically I think with Roe v.

02:25:08.000 Wade, the abortion was legal until the the fetus was viable on its own.

02:25:13.000 Okay.

02:25:13.000 So you what once the fetus was if if it could be the cutoff thing was without the mother, if it needs the mother, then it's still um you can still have a part of the mother.

02:25:23.000 Now if the baby's eight months, no.

02:25:26.000 Um but when what happens when technology can keep a six-week fetus alive and bring it to term.

02:25:36.000 Now you're dealing with now you can't make the argument.

02:25:40.000 But it it will be.

02:25:41.000 Exactly technology is good.

02:25:42.000 So now the now the problem becomes now what do you do?

02:25:46.000 Now we have to redefine.

02:25:47.000 So the the people who believe in abortion or a woman's right to choose have to redefine what it is.

02:25:53.000 And the only way to get around that is to say that that a woman can make that choice until the baby's born. 0.93

02:26:00.000 And that's where you get politicians to say, you believe that babies should be killed up until they're about uh up until the woman's crowning. 0.99

02:26:06.000 And then we get into this whole thing and then you know Yeah.

02:26:09.000 And well, it it also is a uniquely human issue in that it does get blurry.

02:26:15.000 Like as much as I say I'm one hundred percent I think a woman it's her choice, especially at early stages.

02:26:24.000 You know, if someone is pregnant for four weeks, that's your choice. 1.00

02:26:27.000 I don't I don't think anybody should be stepping in.

02:26:30.000 However, everybody with any kind of a heart or a m everybody loves babies.

02:26:36.000 When you get to like eight months or seven months, you're like, Whoa, that is a full-on baby inside of you.

02:26:42.000 Which is cr and then when you see what they do when they do have late-term abortions, you could see the body parts. 0.99

02:26:48.000 Like I don't know if you've ever seen it. 1.00

02:26:50.000 I can't watch that shit. 1.00

02:26:50.000 Unfortunately, I can't. 1.00

02:26:51.000 I I've watched some of those videos and and then you've also seen people who were working for planned parenthood who are c callously talking about sorting through these parts.

02:27:03.000 I guess you have to be that way, don't you?

02:27:05.000 I mean, there's no other way to do it.

02:27:07.000 I guess, but there's some of those Project Veritas type videos where, you know, people are— Behind the scenes men.

02:27:13.000 It's so dark.

02:27:15.000 But they don't think there's anything wrong because they think that abortion should be legal and abortion is a leftist position and a woman should have a right to choose.

02:27:24.000 So in their mind, this is what's happening, and like here's a leg and here's a heart and here's a head.

02:27:29.000 This is where ideology you have to be super inflexible, right?

02:27:32.000 You gotta be like, well, this is what I believe no matter what.

02:27:35.000 Yeah, and I can't live that way, no. 1.00

02:27:37.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:27:37.000 You can't be if you're not grossed out by a little baby hand that just got sucked out of a woman's vagina with a vacuum cleaner, that's kind of crazy. 1.00

02:27:44.000 Bob Geldoff said something that was so interesting. 0.99

02:27:47.000 You know, remember Bob Geldoff showed it.

02:27:49.000 We are the world.

02:27:50.000 And he was talking about Gaza, right?

02:27:52.000 And you can get into a really you can get into a debate about Gaza. 0.99

02:27:54.000 I don't I leave that shit alone because I'm not gonna get into that because you you can talk about Israel turning into the surface of the moon. 0.98

02:28:01.000 There's there's plenty of criticism in that direction. 0.99

02:28:03.000 You can talk about what they did in October 7th and all that stuff.

02:28:06.000 But he said something wild.

02:28:08.000 He said, Look, there are a lot of kids who are starving or at least malnourished or really hungry, whatever it might be.

02:28:15.000 And he said something, he asked a question I thought was great.

02:28:20.000 But hey, who are we as human beings, as people, who are we?

02:28:24.000 Like there's gotta be something we can do.

02:28:26.000 There's gotta be something we can do, whether it's Israel, whether it's Palestinians, whatever, to to at least get that kid fed, at least to stop that kind of stuff. 0.99

02:28:35.000 And that's it that I think sometimes there's a question to ask.

02:28:38.000 You gotta throw all your ideology out the window.

02:28:40.000 You gotta throw all your politics out the window and go, hold on.

02:28:42.000 I'm uh this is called the stop everything button.

02:28:44.000 I'm gonna push it right now.

02:28:45.000 I'm just gonna stop everything, and uh we gotta stop and make sure those kids are fed. 1.00

02:28:49.000 Fuck this. 1.00

02:28:50.000 Unless your ideology has gotten so dark that you think of those kids as an other. 1.00

02:28:55.000 You don't think of those kids as kids.

02:28:58.000 Those kids are orcs.

02:28:59.000 Yeah, that's what the Vedanta always says that the the the seeing nothing, no other is is the way, ultimately realizing that you and that person, back to what you said, you'd be that person too under those circumstances.

02:29:13.000 But then there's a cold hard reality of environment and culture, right?

02:29:17.000 If you if you grow up in this radical genre, there are good ideas and bad ideas.

02:29:22.000 Let's not get it twisted.

02:29:23.000 It doesn't mean you're an intellectual and say everything is everything, okay?

02:29:26.000 We're not being relativists here. 1.00

02:29:28.000 What I'm saying is if you live in a part of the world that's fucked, you're gonna be fucked. 1.00

02:29:31.000 That's right. 1.00

02:29:31.000 You're gonna be fucked. 1.00

02:29:32.000 Which is then we have to go, hold on. 1.00

02:29:34.000 There is a there is a better way, and there is a bat uh there's a worse way. 0.94

02:29:39.000 W th when you lose that side of that, like you there's there is a better way.

02:29:43.000 There's good, there's evil, there's better, there's worse, and that takes some time to understand the meaningful difference.

02:29:50.000 Have you ever talked to Evan Hafer about his time in Afghanistan?

02:29:52.000 Yes.

02:29:53.000 Some of the things that he told me, the things that he saw and the things that he like personally witnessed.

02:29:58.000 He's like, you really get this feeling like you just you can't.

02:29:58.000 Yes.

02:30:02.000 You can't you can't deal with this.

02:30:02.000 Yeah.

02:30:04.000 Like and th this is my thought on that.

02:30:06.000 It's like I wonder if that's what life was like all over the world thousands and thousands of years ago.

02:30:12.000 I wonder if like kind, nice people were like an aberration.

02:30:17.000 And if most of the war like w we're seeing in places like Afghanistan, these warlord driven mountain communities of people that are like I wonder if that's like how most of human history was.

02:30:29.000 I believe it was.

02:30:30.000 I believe it was too.

02:30:31.000 You had that, Daryl Cooper said the greatest thing about the Middle East conflict.

02:30:35.000 He said it's a part of the world where people have to give up who they could be for who they have to be.

02:30:39.000 And that's a beautiful way to put it because that is that is that is what m we are so man, as Americans, especially a certain kind of American, we're so lucky because I get to be who I get to try to be who I wanna be.

02:30:54.000 I don't have to settle for who I have to be. 0.98

02:30:57.000 I don't have to watch my kids go hungry and and do some bad shit because if my kids couldn't get water, I'm gonna be slitting some throats. 1.00

02:31:05.000 But I never had to face that stuff. 0.99

02:31:06.000 I never had to embrace the angels of my darker nature just to survive.

02:31:10.000 Yeah.

02:31:10.000 And it's a luxury, man.

02:31:11.000 And you also never had to like those people never get to stray from that path because they're they're in that path from the time they're a child, and if they make it to be thirty and they're living like that, it's a miracle.

02:31:21.000 If you lose an election in a lot of countries, you die.

02:31:24.000 You don't live to another see another day.

02:31:26.000 How about Mexico?

02:31:27.000 We were talking about the amount of assassinations in Mexico.

02:31:30.000 I had Ed Calderon on and explained.

02:31:33.000 He was like, they're all working for the cartel.

02:31:35.000 It's cartel on cartel violence.

02:31:35.000 That's what it is.

02:31:37.000 That is so crazy.

02:31:38.000 And it's like why is that? 0.99

02:31:40.000 Because drugs are illegal, and so only the uh outlaws sell the drugs, and we are the ones who buy it, and so we prop up this fucking illegal market that's right next door. 0.94

02:31:49.000 We're the biggest market in the world for that stuff. 0.93

02:31:51.000 I know.

02:31:51.000 And it's just it's that's another human problem.

02:31:54.000 Like, so what do you do?

02:31:55.000 Do you make everything legal?

02:31:56.000 You can't do that.

02:31:56.000 And then you're gonna have drug addiction and you're gonna have all sorts of problems and people are gonna overdose, they probably wouldn't, but is that better than like allowing people to overdose accidentally on fentanyl because they just wanted a bump of coke?

02:32:08.000 You can stack bodies, that's one way to do it.

02:32:10.000 You can actually, like he was saying, treat it like an insurgency and stack bodies like we did with ISIS.

02:32:16.000 We solved that ISIS problem. 1.00

02:32:17.000 Nobody who ever talks about that. 0.99

02:32:18.000 We solved that ISIS problem in about six fucking months. 0.99

02:32:21.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:32:22.000 Well that we the Trump said, I'll tell you what, you guys uh let's take the gloves off and just go to work, and we stacked bodies, and that kind of went away in six months.

02:32:32.000 It is if you want to get really ugly, there's one aspect of it, you can do that, and I believe that's possible, and the reason I believe it's possible for some countries like the United States is because we've done it, and that'd be pretty ugly.

02:32:44.000 Or the other thing is to maybe f look into legalizing or taking the profit out of that kind of behavior.

02:32:53.000 That's the second thing.

02:32:54.000 The third thing you could do, you could do, is you could actually go to the cartels, which is Controversial, but I know it was on the table.

02:33:02.000 And cut a deal, which is tell you what, guys, tell us where all the fentanyl is, all the fentanyl factories in this country and in Mexico.

02:33:09.000 No fentanyl, no human trafficking, but you can sell let's say marijuana and cocaine.

02:33:14.000 You have to do it.

02:33:14.000 How's that sound?

02:33:15.000 I'd heard about that too.

02:33:16.000 Yeah.

02:33:17.000 I'd heard that involved like a financial exchange.

02:33:19.000 Sure.

02:33:20.000 And yes, that's right.

02:33:21.000 And also pay us some reparations.

02:33:23.000 So here's here's I don't know, five billion dollars today, we'll give you five billion dollars in about five years.

02:33:28.000 Which is crazy.

02:33:28.000 Listen, listen, it's a deal, right?

02:33:31.000 These are business people.

02:33:31.000 Right.

02:33:33.000 But do you really think that they would honor that deal?

02:33:35.000 But that then m essentially you're opening up the door to well, they're just a pharmacy now.

02:33:40.000 They're a pharmacy for illegal drugs that we can't stop from coming in.

02:33:43.000 So at one point in time, should we just accept the fact that people want to buy drugs and sell drugs?

02:33:49.000 Because look, if cocaine was pure, how many people would be just doing a bump every now and then on a Saturday night?

02:33:55.000 You can't sustain it.

02:33:55.000 If you want to do blow nobody did a bunch of blow, nobody had a lot of price.

02:34:01.000 But the problem the that's a bunch of blow.

02:34:03.000 Some people don't do a bunch of blow, but they'll occasionally do blow.

02:34:07.000 But no, no, no.

02:34:08.000 That's not what I'm saying.

02:34:09.000 I mean, some people can just party on the weekend.

02:34:11.000 Okay.

02:34:12.000 We don't think that's the case because we think everyone's a crackhead.

02:34:12.000 Right.

02:34:15.000 Right.

02:34:15.000 Everyone just loses their whole life.

02:34:16.000 Like we don't even know because it's illegal.

02:34:19.000 Right.

02:34:20.000 Right?

02:34:20.000 We don't know how like that's Dr. Carl Hart's position.

02:34:23.000 You know, Dr. Carl.

02:34:24.000 In other words, people can actually use drugs recreationally and be fine.

02:34:27.000 That's him.

02:34:28.000 It's called individual responsibility, their adultery.

02:34:28.000 And he does.

02:34:31.000 And he's like, the problem is this propaganda about what drugs are.

02:34:35.000 He's the heroin guy?

02:34:36.000 He tries heroin.

02:34:36.000 Yeah.

02:34:37.000 Don't do it that way.

02:34:40.000 Sorry, dude, I'm not cold.

02:34:41.000 He can't say he's the heroine guy.

02:34:44.000 But he's brilliant.

02:34:45.000 And he's a very interesting guy when he talks about it.

02:34:47.000 You're like, you're getting the perspective of a very educated person who was a uh complete clean, sober person until he became a clinical researcher.

02:35:00.000 And then as he's researching these drugs and doing like actual scholarly work, he realizes like, oh, they don't this is not real at all.

02:35:09.000 All this propaganda is nonsense.

02:35:11.000 Like the heroin addiction thing, he's like, it's like the flu. 0.99

02:35:14.000 It's like you just you you feel like shit for a couple days, then you get over it and you're fine.

02:35:18.000 It's like it's not. 0.97

02:35:19.000 Well, he's I mean, you're right that most people use drugs recreationally and it doesn't ruin their life.

02:35:25.000 So again, I I subscribe to that idea.

02:35:30.000 Like let if let people do they're gonna do it anyway for the right. 0.99

02:35:34.000 They're gonna smoke weed, they're gonna do blow, they're gonna do that shit. 0.96

02:35:36.000 But it was would it this is my position. 0.98

02:35:39.000 I think yes, but if they did make it legal where you could go to CVS and buy heroin or go to CVS and buy cocaine, you're gonna get a lot more people that buy it and try it because it's now legal.

02:35:50.000 You know, so you get a lot more drug use initially.

02:35:53.000 Maybe in the short term. 1.00

02:35:54.000 Yeah, because our culture is fucked up. 0.99

02:35:56.000 Our culture is like designed to accept legal things that are very detrimental, like alcohol, which is a hugely detrimental. 0.99

02:36:03.000 One of the worst ones for you.

02:36:05.000 Well, that's all that's one of the things that Hunter Biden said.

02:36:05.000 Yeah.

02:36:07.000 You ever hear hear Hunter Biden talk about crack?

02:36:09.000 Makes you want to try crack.

02:36:09.000 No.

02:36:11.000 It's amazing.

02:36:12.000 He did this interview with what is that guy's name?

02:36:14.000 Andrew Callahan.

02:36:15.000 Andrew Callahan.

02:36:16.000 And um he did this whole thing where he described how amazing crack is.

02:36:21.000 I swear to God, it makes you want to try crack.

02:36:23.000 But you know, he asked him, you think crack is safer than alcohol.

02:36:23.000 Yeah.

02:36:26.000 He's like, Yeah, probably.

02:36:27.000 Yeah, it's probably safer.

02:36:28.000 And it probably is Well, first of all, crack is devastating quickly.

02:36:32.000 Like you'll wake up in three years and have no house and be on the street. 0.99

02:36:34.000 Alcohol, you can be an alcoholic for 40 years before you realize holy fuck, I got nothing going on. 0.99

02:36:39.000 Yeah, that's true, too. 0.99

02:36:40.000 So I I again I mean, I I think that the the idea is you can legalize it.

02:36:40.000 Right.

02:36:45.000 Uh, there's a lot of money in enforcement.

02:36:48.000 And uh you know, or you can stack bodies.

02:36:51.000 Well, in the back of the city.

02:36:53.000 People used to snort cocaine, and if you took to free basing, you had a real problem.

02:36:57.000 Like that was Richard Pryor.

02:36:58.000 Richard Pryor was fine until he started free basically.

02:37:00.000 Sure.

02:37:01.000 But most of us are gonna go But that's crack.

02:37:03.000 Right.

02:37:04.000 But most of us would like most of us are busy, right?

02:37:07.000 Like you're gonna have people that are gonna fuck their lives up, just like they do with alcohol and everything else, and cocaine and crack.

02:37:12.000 But most of us, even if it's exactly but if it's around we'll navigate it exactly how we're gonna navigate social media.

02:37:20.000 Exactly how we navigate alcohol.

02:37:21.000 Right.

02:37:24.000 People are gonna start to realize they're being gamed by bots, by the most extreme examples.

02:37:30.000 Your algorithm is lying to you.

02:37:32.000 So pretty soon what happens? 0.62

02:37:33.000 You say things like, I'm not gonna fucking I'm not I'm gonna get off social media.

02:37:37.000 I think it takes like ten years before they figure that out though, Right. 0.87

02:37:39.000 Okay.

02:37:40.000 But it takes a while.

02:37:41.000 And then we'll have another problem. 0.99

02:37:42.000 But I I just think every time you try to uh fucking nanny state. 0.96

02:37:47.000 Or just make the world yeah, make the world fix the world with with force. 0.97

02:37:52.000 Right.

02:37:54.000 It's kind of like squeezing a balloon.

02:37:56.000 The gas is the the air is just gonna go in another part of the balloon.

02:37:58.000 As I get older, I'm like, I don't know, man. 0.99

02:38:00.000 There might be a much easier way to do this shit. 0.96

02:38:02.000 Well, personal responsibility is huge, but also counseling, like if you're gonna allow drugs, that you there would have to be a whole support system set up to help people with addiction. 0.99

02:38:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:38:12.000 But then also they should bring in Ibogaine.

02:38:14.000 I mean, what they're doing with Ibogaine in Texas with veterans and with people that are drug addicts, they've had tremendous results.

02:38:20.000 It stops your addiction dead in its tracks.

02:38:23.000 Crazy, right?

02:38:23.000 With one session, eighty percent of the people never never return.

02:38:27.000 And with two sessions, ninety plus percent of the people never return.

02:38:31.000 To anything, to heroin, alcohol, cigarettes, gambling, whatever it is.

02:38:31.000 To alcohol.

02:38:36.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:38:36.000 Whatever you're hooked on. 1.00

02:38:37.000 Doesn't Ozempic work for that shit too? 0.99

02:38:39.000 Oh, Zempic seems to have some sort of an effect on that as well. 0.99

02:38:42.000 Yeah.

02:38:43.000 Craving part of your brain. 0.87

02:38:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:38:46.000 Because it's like it stops appetite, so I wonder if it stops like an appetite for like wild shit too. 0.98

02:38:51.000 Like Yeah, come on, seven. 0.99

02:38:53.000 Yeah.

02:38:55.000 Yeah, apparently it it helps. 0.98

02:38:56.000 I think that the peptides and all that shit, technology is gonna make it so that we can figure out a way to control a lot of that shit. 0.98

02:39:03.000 I think so too. 0.99

02:39:04.000 I think they'll but they have very good drugs for alcohol.

02:39:04.000 Yeah.

02:39:07.000 Very good drugs.

02:39:08.000 You can take a drug for alcohol.

02:39:09.000 The problem is it's not the alcohol.

02:39:11.000 The problem is when you take away somebody's addiction, like alcohol then they still have an edge for something.

02:39:15.000 But no, but it's also like your whole all the fun of your life.

02:39:19.000 Do you know that when you get a when people get gastric bypass um and and they they stop eating, uh suicides go up for them? 0.98

02:39:26.000 Because eating was how they fucking dealt with all their problems. 0.99

02:39:30.000 Like so you're taking again now you're you're you're taking away the addiction, but you you're not getting to the source because you gotta be able to replace that shit. 1.00

02:39:39.000 You gotta turn them into triathlete like that old lady. 1.00

02:39:41.000 Which is why you gotta go to church.

02:39:44.000 I'm a man of God.

02:39:46.000 I go to church now.

02:39:47.000 Do you?

02:39:48.000 Yeah, I've done to church many times.

02:39:49.000 I like it.

02:39:50.000 I go to I go to Red Rocks.

02:39:51.000 Don't tell people where you go.

02:39:52.000 Oh, sorry.

02:39:53.000 I gotta come see you.

02:39:54.000 Hang out.

02:39:54.000 Yeah.

02:39:55.000 I'm not that famous.

02:39:56.000 Sit right behind you and stare at your Bible, see if you're on the right page.

02:39:59.000 This is what this is my fame.

02:40:00.000 People go, you know Joe Rogan?

02:40:01.000 Can you get this thing to him?

02:40:03.000 I got a deal.

02:40:04.000 Yeah.

02:40:05.000 I want to sell shoelaces.

02:40:07.000 I don't even do I don't know.

02:40:08.000 I love that.

02:40:09.000 Sometimes people just come up with like today.

02:40:11.000 Great idea.

02:40:12.000 It's like, you know, it's a good thing.

02:40:13.000 And you were like, I'm just not interested.

02:40:16.000 Yeah.

02:40:17.000 I don't want to be in business with anybody.

02:40:19.000 No.

02:40:19.000 It's not fun.

02:40:20.000 I've tried it.

02:40:21.000 Yeah.

02:40:21.000 It's not a good time.

02:40:22.000 I do have I do have a business proposal.

02:40:24.000 Yeah.

02:40:26.000 I have an idea.

02:40:27.000 I'm sure you do.

02:40:28.000 I have one idea.

02:40:29.000 I'm busy.

02:40:30.000 I've brought you with I brought I brought two ideas to you. 0.99

02:40:32.000 Yeah, they all suck. 0.99

02:40:33.000 Well, they're in there. 1.00

02:40:36.000 Tell everybody your special.

02:40:38.000 Brian Callon, it's out there.

02:40:39.000 Oh, my special.

02:40:39.000 There it is.

02:40:40.000 My special event.

02:40:41.000 False gods. 0.96

02:40:42.000 I shot it at the mothership. 0.98

02:40:42.000 False gods. 0.98

02:40:44.000 I'm very proud of it.

02:40:45.000 I think it's going to be great.

02:40:46.000 Who shot it for you?

02:40:48.000 Um Dana, who's Sam Triple's uh lady.

02:40:51.000 Oh, nice.

02:40:52.000 I love Dana so much.

02:40:53.000 And she's that's the second thing she did.

02:40:54.000 She did Man Tears, and this is uh I'm dropping this tomorrow.

02:40:57.000 Beautiful.

02:40:58.000 And this will air tomorrow.

02:40:59.000 It'll air will it's today.

02:41:01.000 So everybody's listening. 0.99

02:41:02.000 Oh shit. 0.99

02:41:03.000 It's today. 1.00

02:41:03.000 All right. 1.00

02:41:04.000 If you're listening, it'll be tomorrow, but it'll October 15th.

02:41:07.000 Yeah.

02:41:07.000 Exclusively on YouTube.

02:41:08.000 That's it.

02:41:10.000 Now I'm back to square one. 1.00

02:41:12.000 I'm gonna shoot my next one at the mothership. 0.58

02:41:13.000 I'll see you tonight, but are you gonna be uh Yeah, I'll be there tonight. 0.92

02:41:16.000 I'll be there too late.

02:41:17.000 My pleasure, my brother.

02:41:17.000 Thank you for the time.

02:41:18.000 It's always good to hang out.

02:41:19.000 Oh hey, uh, and come see every when every other Wednesday at Brian Redman's club uh uh Sunset Strip.

02:41:26.000 We do acting off.

02:41:27.000 Oh no, what's that?

02:41:27.000 Do you know about my show?

02:41:28.000 Oh dude, I take I take all the all the comics in Austin and we see who the best actor is.

02:41:33.000 So you've got to like do things like die in slow motion, who does have the best. 0.97

02:41:36.000 Or do redo the scene from the notebook as Miss Piggy and Donald Trump is fucking hilarious. 1.00

02:41:42.000 Peyton Ruddy is a fucking killer in it. 1.00

02:41:44.000 Damn Martin's. 1.00

02:41:45.000 Dude, that's a great idea. 0.93

02:41:46.000 It's been so amazing, and we haven't promoted it, but I'm starting to promote it now because we're gamifying it.

02:41:50.000 We have teams and see who can do the best, like, you know, interpretation.

02:41:53.000 We have we have up close acting, so we have a camera on your face. 0.98

02:41:56.000 This is another thing that pisses me off about all these comics talking shit about the Austin scene. 0.96

02:42:00.000 There's so many things going on here. 0.98

02:42:01.000 This idea so many clubs.

02:42:03.000 People have like made this again, this straw man like you have to have an N-word joke and you have to have a trans joke. 1.00

02:42:10.000 Like fuck that fucking club is so diverse. 1.00

02:42:14.000 Incredibly diverse. 1.00

02:42:16.000 But naturally.

02:42:17.000 With no effort.

02:42:17.000 Yes.

02:42:18.000 It's all just funny people.

02:42:20.000 Who's the funniest?

02:42:21.000 People are funny in all shapes and sizes from all walks of life.

02:42:26.000 Whatever struggle you've had that manifests itself in humor.

02:42:29.000 That's right.

02:42:29.000 Exists.

02:42:30.000 There's tons of people in that club that are gay. 0.95

02:42:32.000 Most of the comedians. 0.96

02:42:34.000 Most of the comedians, by the way, are liberal.

02:42:36.000 Yes, sir.

02:42:37.000 So that throws that out the window. 0.98

02:42:39.000 This whole idea that it's some fucking right wing comedy club. 0.99

02:42:42.000 Like, stop it. 0.99

02:42:44.000 Most of the people there are liberal.

02:42:46.000 Most of them.

02:42:46.000 Correct.

02:42:47.000 Correct.

02:42:48.000 But it's just this walled garden thing when people are on the outside, and they're like there wasn't there hasn't been a scene here before.

02:42:53.000 Right.

02:42:54.000 And then you have the scrubs that were here.

02:42:55.000 Like they ruined the comedy scene.

02:42:57.000 Like you guys had nothing. 1.00

02:42:59.000 Shut up. 1.00

02:42:59.000 You shut your stupid lazy hole. 1.00

02:43:03.000 You had nothing. 1.00

02:43:04.000 Right.

02:43:04.000 There was there was you didn't even have a comedy club.

02:43:07.000 When I moved here, Cap City was closed.

02:43:09.000 You know how I know?

02:43:10.000 Because I was gonna buy it. 0.98

02:43:11.000 I was looking, I went to look at the fucking place where Cap City used to be, and I was gonna purchase it. 0.98

02:43:11.000 Right. 0.98

02:43:16.000 Yeah.

02:43:17.000 That's how I know it was under.

02:43:18.000 Good club now.

02:43:19.000 It's the new one.

02:43:20.000 That's a different one.

02:43:21.000 The old one was great too, though, which is like an event center now.

02:43:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:43:24.000 Um, but yeah, the new one is great.

02:43:25.000 And but the mothership brought a bunch of comedy here, so there are a lot of other clubs that are gone that are really fun.

02:43:31.000 Quick in a cave.

02:43:32.000 Because we made it so that first of all, you've got a club that has two days of open mic nights, and you've got a real guy in Adam Eagot, who's a real talent coordinator that really helps the development of comedians, and he does it really like consciously takes it very seriously.

02:43:46.000 Takes it very seriously, and he's like, he really loves comedy, and he really wants to help people, and he gives great advice and he's gonna be able to do that.

02:43:53.000 Adam actually watches sets.

02:43:55.000 Like he sits in the audience and watches.

02:43:58.000 Unbelievable.

02:43:58.000 Yeah, I mean, that's why I brought him in.

02:44:00.000 I mean, he and I were the founders of the mothership.

02:44:03.000 I mean, it was like we we did it together.

02:44:05.000 I wouldn't have done it without him.

02:44:05.000 Wow.

02:44:06.000 I wouldn't have done it without him and without Kerry and a lot of the people that came from the the store.

02:44:06.000 Yeah.

02:44:13.000 Yep.

02:44:13.000 And this is a place that we're it's new.

02:44:17.000 And so if you're on the outside and you're not in, you try to find some criticism.

02:44:20.000 That that's like criticism is fine if you're telling the truth.

02:44:23.000 But there's a bunch of people that are making things up because they're trying to attack something that they can't be a part of.

02:44:28.000 That's right. 1.00

02:44:29.000 And most of the reason you can't be a part of is because you're a cunt. 1.00

02:44:32.000 You're a cunt you're a cunky person. 1.00

02:44:35.000 We haven't no cunts allowed, but no, no. 1.00

02:44:37.000 No, we try to try to eliminate, and we have. 0.98

02:44:39.000 You know, we've we've actually banned some cunts. 0.99

02:44:42.000 Yeah, you know, because people were shitty people. 0.98

02:44:44.000 And like we're trying to have a real positive place where you can just get better at this art form. 0.84

02:44:49.000 It's a love fest.

02:44:50.000 Every time we go there, everybody's having a good time.

02:44:52.000 I love it.

02:44:53.000 And you're gonna have people that have better experiences there and worse experiences there.

02:44:57.000 One of the things, like someone was saying that she went to a comedy show and Justin Martindale went on, and then the next guy who came on started saying all these slurs about him.

02:45:06.000 Yeah, you know who the next guy was?

02:45:07.000 Who?

02:45:08.000 Brian Holtzman.

02:45:09.000 Okay. 0.85

02:45:10.000 So if you know Brian Holtzman's act, it's a character he plays that's a complete maniac. 0.58

02:45:16.000 Right.

02:45:16.000 And everyone he goes on, he went after Kim Congden the other night.

02:45:20.000 Right.

02:45:20.000 Kim Congden has this great set.

02:45:22.000 She's in the The Little Boys, great set, very funny.

02:45:25.000 He goes on and he goes, and amazing watching women try to do things men do. 1.00

02:45:30.000 What are you doing?

02:45:30.000 Get in the kitchen!

02:45:32.000 Get in the kitchen! 1.00

02:45:33.000 It's a character he plays.

02:45:34.000 He's the sandwich.

02:45:36.000 He's the sweetest human being on the city.

02:45:37.000 Sweetest human being.

02:45:38.000 So he did this with Justin Rodney.

02:45:39.000 Justin Martin Dale doesn't care. 0.99

02:45:40.000 Justin Martinale give as good as he's like, fucking said he like commented on it when this girl was talking shit about it. 0.99

02:45:46.000 Like, yeah, that happened. 1.00

02:45:47.000 Like, yeah, that happened with Brian Holtzman, you fucking asshole. 1.00

02:45:50.000 You know what he's doing. 1.00

02:45:51.000 He does that with me.

02:45:52.000 He does that with everybody. 0.99

02:45:54.000 Every single person he goes on after, he shits on them to set the tone, and then he shits on everything. 0.99

02:46:00.000 He shits on the tech guys walking around with their south by southwest. 0.99

02:46:04.000 He goes crazy. 1.00

02:46:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:46:05.000 He's funny as shit too. 1.00

02:46:06.000 He's a legend. 0.99

02:46:08.000 Like you know what he's doing.

02:46:09.000 This pr so that maybe this one comic didn't know.

02:46:12.000 Maybe no one told her. 0.99

02:46:13.000 But she's like spreading all this shit that it's like this hateful environment. 1.00

02:46:17.000 Oh no, no, no. 1.00

02:46:18.000 It's it's so silly. 0.99

02:46:20.000 I know you wish it was, because then it w it could suck and you're not a part of it. 0.99

02:46:24.000 Come see how many come see how diverse the faces are in the fucking mothership. 0.99

02:46:28.000 It's the United Nations, dude. 0.99

02:46:30.000 It really is.

02:46:30.000 Yeah.

02:46:30.000 It really is.

02:46:31.000 And and including because of Tony, there are a lot of people who are who are uh disabled who would never have a fucking stage. 0.98

02:46:39.000 But because they did some shit on Kill Tony, Tony, like, you know, facilitated the fact that they have a place to perform every single fucking night and a community. 0.98

02:46:49.000 And then by the way, they've earned it. 1.00

02:46:50.000 I'm not saying they haven't.

02:46:51.000 Yes. 0.95

02:46:51.000 And Kill Tony, they have a very unique pathway where if they can really bang out a solid minute and kill. 0.95

02:46:59.000 They can have a career. 0.86

02:47:00.000 Yeah.

02:47:01.000 You can have a career.

02:47:02.000 And then Timmy no breaks.

02:47:02.000 Yeah.

02:47:04.000 He does acting off, by the way.

02:47:05.000 He's a good thing.

02:47:05.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

02:47:06.000 Dude, that dude is he'll just come up with shit out of him and Peyton Runny will fucking and Danny Martinella, they'll hit you with shit, and we're just like, holy fucking. 1.00

02:47:15.000 And that's Wednesday night at what time? 1.00

02:47:17.000 Wednesday night, we do it at seven.

02:47:18.000 We're doing it on October 22nd.

02:47:21.000 Come see what we do.

02:47:22.000 It's gamified.

02:47:23.000 It's very- Where is uh the best place to find out when you guys are gonna be there?

02:47:26.000 Is it the website?

02:47:29.000 Yeah, we on Sunset Strips website and and my website, but also my my Instagram stuff.

02:47:35.000 I post about it.

02:47:36.000 And Nick Collis and my buddy Nick Simmons, who are my openers, you know, Nick Simmons.

02:47:36.000 Beautiful.

02:47:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:47:40.000 It's funny, very funny. 0.99

02:47:40.000 Funny as shit. 0.99

02:47:41.000 It's fucking great. 0.99

02:47:42.000 We gotta get him in. 0.99

02:47:42.000 We gotta get those. 0.99

02:47:43.000 Those guys are all auditioning too.

02:47:44.000 They're they're going through the whole process, so it's fantastic.

02:47:46.000 Great guys.

02:47:46.000 All right, you're a uh false gods available on YouTube.

02:47:50.000 All right.

02:47:50.000 Come see me.

02:47:50.000 Love you, brother.

02:47:51.000 Peace.

02:47:51.000 Love you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 15, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2393 - Bryan Callen

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