The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2396 - Andrew Schulz

00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan experience.

00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night.

00:00:09.000 All day.

00:00:15.000 You be getting into AI music at all?

00:00:17.000 Uh music.

00:00:18.000 A little.

00:00:19.000 A little.

00:00:20.000 Listen to this.

00:00:21.000 Yeah.

00:00:22.000 They're taking 50 cent songs.

00:00:24.000 I knew you were gonna bring that.

00:00:25.000 You've heard many men, right?

00:00:26.000 Yes, have you heard What Up Gangsta?

00:00:28.000 Nah, nah, let me know.

00:00:29.000 No, you haven't.

00:00:29.000 The Many Men one is fantastic.

00:00:31.000 The Many Men's amazing.

00:00:32.000 Yeah.

00:00:32.000 Hold up, hold up.

00:00:33.000 Before you hold up, he's not on.

00:00:35.000 Oh, my bad, my bad.

00:00:36.000 Listen to this.

00:00:37.000 You gotta hear this.

00:00:38.000 You gotta do this.

00:00:39.000 What up, blood?

00:00:44.000 What?

00:00:45.000 What up, cousin?

00:00:47.000 What?

00:00:48.000 What up, blood?

00:00:51.000 Wait till you hear this flow.

00:00:52.000 Gangster.

00:00:54.000 What up, blood?

00:00:57.000 What up, cuz?

00:01:03.000 Here we go.

00:01:10.000 I try not to speak much.

00:01:12.000 Guys love to play part, but I hunt a duck nickel down, treated like sport front or me out, but it's throwing you up.

00:01:19.000 You stacking paper, I can't get none with your fucking.

00:01:22.000 I'm not the type that getting pop for a D Welly. 1.00

00:01:24.000 I'm the type of stuff that connect when the Coke price times.

00:01:31.000 I grew up around Nick because I wanted really home and smaller Dustin.

00:01:35.000 The Maca blasted these come through.

00:01:37.000 We dump Diesel in the battery casket.

00:01:39.000 This flows home.

00:01:40.000 The eyes up I ass across me.

00:01:42.000 I have your mama picking out the casket bastard. 1.00

00:01:45.000 I'm on a next peer button, but get Basil Bins pedal to the male steam model then a tea kettle.

00:01:52.000 What up?

00:01:54.000 Go! 0.95

00:01:57.000 Go! 0.95

00:01:58.000 What up, gangster?

00:02:00.000 This is fantastic.

00:02:02.000 So how much of this is like one prompt, or is there like a guy working with uh Jamie's the answer to that?

00:02:09.000 Because Jamie's done a bunch of them.

00:02:11.000 Yeah.

00:02:11.000 Yeah, like how much of this is like actually editing and somebody who understands producing music, like constantly prompting.

00:02:18.000 No.

00:02:20.000 Uh prompt for five words.

00:02:22.000 Holy shit.

00:02:23.000 Say 1950 soul music.

00:02:25.000 It's so easy.

00:02:26.000 And then put in the cigar.

00:02:29.000 Let's burn a cigar.

00:02:30.000 Let's burn one down, man.

00:02:33.000 Let's go.

00:02:34.000 Oh man.

00:02:35.000 50.

00:02:37.000 50's the man.

00:02:38.000 Let's be toxic rich dudes.

00:02:40.000 Yes, let's do it.

00:02:43.000 When are we starting?

00:02:44.000 Have we started?

00:02:45.000 Yeah, we're rolling.

00:02:45.000 We're rolling.

00:02:46.000 We're rolling.

00:02:47.000 Are these your yours personal ones?

00:02:49.000 No, these are um from foundation cigars.

00:02:52.000 These are uh I don't know what they're called, but these are fucking legit.

00:02:58.000 My man.

00:02:59.000 What happened to yours?

00:03:00.000 I still have those.

00:03:01.000 Those are nice.

00:03:02.000 Oh, those are great.

00:03:03.000 Yeah, we got a nice little box right here.

00:03:04.000 I just opened this box.

00:03:05.000 Good day.

00:03:07.000 Nice.

00:03:08.000 Foundation.

00:03:11.000 Where are these from?

00:03:12.000 Uh probably Nicaragua.

00:03:14.000 I think that's where he's got his thing.

00:03:15.000 Hey, hello.

00:03:17.000 I got you.

00:03:19.000 What's the rules on that?

00:03:21.000 About Nicaragua?

00:03:24.000 Oh, okay.

00:03:25.000 Yeah.

00:03:28.000 It's like a man taking you shopping.

00:03:33.000 You're 50 saying that about two.

00:03:37.000 Why are you gonna take me shopping for?

00:03:38.000 Yeah, you know.

00:03:38.000 And then he looked at Meek Mills post and they were wearing the same shirt, and with Diddy and Meek were wearing the same shirt.

00:03:43.000 He's like, see, that's why I don't let him take me shopping.

00:03:48.000 50's so funny.

00:03:49.000 But you realize how good his lyrics are when you hear him run through AI.

00:03:52.000 Yeah, he's like you revisit the lyrics.

00:03:54.000 Like the many men lyrics are fantastic.

00:03:57.000 Yeah, the many men song it almost works better.

00:04:00.000 Right?

00:04:00.000 It's like uh what is that like 50s?

00:04:02.000 Soul.

00:04:03.000 Soul, yeah.

00:04:04.000 Yeah.

00:04:04.000 Well, if that dude was a real dude, he would be the biggest fucking artist on earth right now.

00:04:09.000 If that was his song, if it wasn't written by 50, it was his song, and he put it out right now.

00:04:16.000 Everybody be like, oh my god.

00:04:20.000 You just picture him looking like just perfect like Cat Williams type suit on stage, you know, just going off, sweating, wiping his head with a towel, full blast.

00:04:32.000 Yeah, just like Southern Deacon.

00:04:34.000 Fucking 9,000 RPMs.

00:04:36.000 Bam! 0.98

00:04:37.000 What up blood?

00:04:41.000 I just love the idea of like you working out to 50 soul, 50 cent.

00:04:46.000 Oh, I do.

00:04:47.000 Yeah.

00:04:47.000 I do all the time.

00:04:48.000 Yeah.

00:04:49.000 Yeah, working in there with Wu Tang.

00:04:50.000 Wu Tang.

00:04:51.000 Wu Tang's my favorite workout music.

00:04:53.000 Yeah, Big Daddy Kane.

00:04:54.000 Yeah.

00:04:54.000 You like all that?

00:04:55.000 Being Rock Him.

00:04:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:56.000 Yeah, Cool G Rap.

00:04:57.000 Have you ever talked to uh do you ever listen to uh EPMD?

00:05:01.000 Oh fuck yeah.

00:05:02.000 You ever talked to like Eric Sermon?

00:05:03.000 No, never have.

00:05:04.000 No, never have.

00:05:05.000 Yeah.

00:05:05.000 I love those guys.

00:05:06.000 I can't believe you and 50 have never connected.

00:05:08.000 Like I know everyone.

00:05:09.000 I met him once.

00:05:10.000 I interviewed him for UFC.

00:05:12.000 Long time ago.

00:05:13.000 Where?

00:05:13.000 Um I don't remember.

00:05:15.000 Might have been Vegas.

00:05:16.000 It was a UFC event in Vegas, and he was there.

00:05:18.000 I don't know if he was releasing something or whatever it was.

00:05:21.000 I sat next to him and That shit is harsh.

00:05:23.000 It's good, right?

00:05:24.000 That's a good one, but that's a strong one.

00:05:25.000 That's a Maduro.

00:05:27.000 Yeah.

00:05:27.000 I like them robust.

00:05:29.000 I bet.

00:05:30.000 Yeah.

00:05:31.000 I'm glad I lit my own.

00:05:34.000 Okay, wait, so wait, you met him, you were at the UFC fight and you spoke to him.

00:05:37.000 It was a UFC event.

00:05:39.000 This is how long ago?

00:05:40.000 Oh, a long time ago, man.

00:05:41.000 I had hair.

00:05:42.000 So it's gotta be pretty.

00:05:43.000 There it is right there.

00:05:45.000 Oh, so this is like when he's in the middle of his stuff with John.

00:05:51.000 I mean, I gotta say this is probably 2007 or something like that.

00:05:56.000 But he was always involved with something.

00:05:57.000 He was always beefing with somebody.

00:05:59.000 Yeah, that was a funny thing.

00:06:00.000 Because when I when we were in uh He's in the Street Fighter movie, so we were in Australia filming, like I saw the guys with him, and like I recognized like a couple, like if it's a security, but they didn't look like one guy looked like actual professional security, and I was like, I was like, oh that's that's that guy looks like that's his real job being security.

00:06:17.000 Not what I'm used to seeing 50 with. 0.95

00:06:19.000 And uh he goes, yeah, man.

00:06:19.000 Right.

00:06:21.000 Can't get in the country with felonies, bro.

00:06:23.000 I had to bring the clean ones.

00:06:26.000 So like the real people that he has around.

00:06:30.000 Wow.

00:06:30.000 He gotta bring clean security.

00:06:32.000 Clean security, professionals.

00:06:35.000 There's different levels of professionals.

00:06:37.000 Yeah, well, there's people that know things.

00:06:40.000 Yeah.

00:06:41.000 Sometimes you go to like a city or state and you need to know those things.

00:06:44.000 I need to know things.

00:06:45.000 Some people need to know things.

00:06:45.000 Yeah.

00:06:46.000 Sometimes you gotta check in with folks.

00:06:48.000 So that's the thing.

00:06:50.000 Your guys are the best of it.

00:06:51.000 Your guys hit me up, it's just they were like, yeah, there's some crazy chick online.

00:06:54.000 She says she wants to kill you, so just don't go to New Mexico.

00:06:57.000 And I was like, alright, bet.

00:06:59.000 I won't do that.

00:07:00.000 They're like they're like, she said she wanted to kill somebody else.

00:07:03.000 I don't even say their names.

00:07:04.000 I don't want to get him in a heap, but like, yeah, as long as you don't go to New Mexico, you should be good.

00:07:07.000 I'm like, all right, no plans.

00:07:08.000 Allegedly.

00:07:09.000 Yeah.

00:07:10.000 Yeah, it's wild times.

00:07:12.000 Wild times.

00:07:15.000 Wild times where people celebrate people getting killed now.

00:07:18.000 Like that never happened before.

00:07:20.000 Like even when someone bad got killed before, you're like, oh wow, that's kind of crazy.

00:07:24.000 I've been thinking a lot about this.

00:07:26.000 Yeah.

00:07:26.000 And I think that like I don't think we all exist in the same reality anymore.

00:07:31.000 Not on some multiverse shit, but like just like how we see the world.

00:07:35.000 And it's like, especially with Charlie's death, because I was in Australia when it happened, so like I had time.

00:07:35.000 Yes.

00:07:41.000 Like I wasn't doing pods, I wouldn't do a stand-up, I'm just like sitting around in a trailer, I'll do this movie.

00:07:45.000 So I like started watching like a bunch of his stuff.

00:07:48.000 Also, I want to say he did something really cool.

00:07:50.000 Like I didn't really know him, but like you DMed a couple times, but he saw a headline about me once and he DM'd me.

00:07:56.000 And like I don't even have a relationship with this guy.

00:07:57.000 He goes, This headline looks real little weird.

00:07:59.000 Like I know we don't really know each other, but like, is this what you meant?

00:08:04.000 And like there are people who I know I've considered colleagues that haven't even afforded that to me.

00:08:09.000 Yeah.

00:08:10.000 He just ran with a headline and like made a video, got clicks, views, or whatever like that.

00:08:14.000 Right.

00:08:14.000 This guy I don't even know, hits me up and goes, is this what you meant?

00:08:18.000 Yeah.

00:08:18.000 Very cool.

00:08:19.000 I met him once at a gun range.

00:08:21.000 Oh, really?

00:08:21.000 Yeah, I met him at Terran Tactical.

00:08:24.000 So I was down there training.

00:08:26.000 You know, do you know what Terrence is?

00:08:27.000 This is the one where you see like a lot of like celebs.

00:08:30.000 The one where you see celebs.

00:08:32.000 He trained Keanu Reeves for John Wick.

00:08:35.000 He's the man.

00:08:36.000 Like Terren Butler is like a multiple time world champion shooter of those, you know, the events that they have where it's timed or a shoot already.

00:08:45.000 Um, so I met him there.

00:08:45.000 Yeah.

00:08:47.000 Seemed like a real nice guy.

00:08:49.000 You know, I didn't know anything about him back then.

00:08:52.000 I didn't know much about his beliefs and views that were controversial until after he got killed.

00:08:58.000 And then people started sending me stuff, and I was like, okay.

00:09:01.000 What's the context of this?

00:09:03.000 That's uh he shouldn't have said it that way.

00:09:05.000 There was there was some ones that we've talked about before.

00:09:08.000 Um one specifically.

00:09:10.000 You know, But it looked the fucking guy, first of all, was 31 years old.

00:09:14.000 All right.

00:09:14.000 Yeah.

00:09:15.000 When I was 31, thank God there wasn't like Twitter.

00:09:19.000 Or especially when I was 21.

00:09:22.000 Oh my god, thank God.

00:09:23.000 Yeah.

00:09:24.000 Thank God.

00:09:25.000 You know, judging like that that's like that Nick Fuentes kid.

00:09:28.000 He's like 26.

00:09:29.000 Like, thank God.

00:09:31.000 It didn't exist when I was fucking 21.

00:09:31.000 Yeah.

00:09:34.000 I was a fucking moron.

00:09:37.000 I was a complete moron.

00:09:38.000 Like most people, especially if you grow up around morons.

00:09:42.000 But um, I think he he said a few things that if I was his friend, I would say, don't say it like that.

00:09:42.000 Yeah.

00:09:48.000 I know what you're trying to say.

00:09:49.000 Yeah.

00:09:49.000 But don't ever say when I go into a cockpit, I hope that the pilot, if he's black, is qualified.

00:09:56.000 I know what you're trying to say.

00:09:57.000 You shouldn't hire underqualified pilots.

00:09:59.000 Yeah.

00:10:00.000 But saying it like that just because of the color of their skin.

00:10:02.000 He's probably not hanging out with black people, not knowing how offensive that's gonna be to them.

00:10:06.000 How you gotta go.

00:10:07.000 That's not what I meant.

00:10:08.000 Like you gotta you gotta that's not what I meant before you say it.

00:10:11.000 Yeah.

00:10:12.000 You gotta run it through the filter, like what am I trying to say?

00:10:15.000 Yeah.

00:10:15.000 We all don't want unqualified people to do dangerous fucking jobs, period.

00:10:20.000 It doesn't matter what race they are. 0.93

00:10:21.000 If all of a sudden white people became a minority and they had to start hiring dopey whites, we'd be upset. 0.88

00:10:27.000 He makes that argument a lot.

00:10:28.000 Like he makes it with sports.

00:10:29.000 You know, he's like, all right, if the NFL is gonna be 50% black, and you know, like so but again, like the contest because it's taken out. 0.64

00:10:36.000 Yes.

00:10:37.000 And I think that's what happened.

00:10:38.000 Like the the algorithm flattens all of us into a two-dimensional person.

00:10:42.000 And like only the views that tap into you know, your biggest insecurities or your biggest fears, not the views, only like the the the lines we say or the videos, whatever that tap into those things.

00:10:52.000 Or with terrible things you want confirmed.

00:10:54.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:10:55.000 Things you won't confirm.

00:10:55.000 Like that's what the algorithm does.

00:10:57.000 And like I realized it when I was doing like a promo tour for for life, my last special, right?

00:11:03.000 I would go on a couple pods that like and like maybe like 10, 15, 20 minutes into the conversation, they I would realize like, oh wow, they have a very different view of me than me.

00:11:18.000 The New York Times won.

00:11:19.000 No, well, the New York Times one, I was like expecting it for sure.

00:11:22.000 But even when I went on Dax's podcast, Dax knew me, but his uh his co-host, I was like, oh, she has an idea of me that's like cultivated by the internet and heads on shit.

00:11:33.000 And it's just a flattened version, right?

00:11:33.000 Exactly.

00:11:35.000 It's like there's really no humanity in it.

00:11:38.000 It's just these are the things that people are saying that I'm saying with no context.

00:11:42.000 And then you just create an archetype.

00:11:42.000 Right.

00:11:44.000 And like I think in a lot of ways, that's the Charlie thing to the f furthest extreme, right?

00:11:49.000 It's just like if you're on the right, there's one version of Charlie.

00:11:52.000 If you're on the left, there's another version of Charlie.

00:11:54.000 Right.

00:11:55.000 And when he died, this person that you saw is like a good God-fearing man, you're like heartbroken by it.

00:12:03.000 And then on the left, this person you saw that was like bigoted or hateful, you're like, okay, I'm not really heartbreaking by it.

00:12:09.000 Some people are even crazy enough to be like, he deserved it, or this is what you get, right?

00:12:13.000 But they can only have that feeling if he's completely dehumanized the version of him that they see all the time.

00:12:19.000 That happens to you, it happens to me, it happens to like anybody who's on the internet talking, you know, for a few hours a week.

00:12:25.000 And when I saw that shit, and I especially I saw like that this visceral reaction to Charlie, that's what's so sneak so's the insanity in the country because the people on the left are seeing the people on the right be heartbroken, but they're like, Why are you heartbroken over this guy who's a bigot?

00:12:40.000 And the people on the right are seeing the people on the left celebrate and they're like, Why are you celebrating the death of this God fearing family man?

00:12:46.000 And both sides just think each other is absolutely insane.

00:12:49.000 Yeah.

00:12:50.000 When in reality, he's neither of those cartoons.

00:12:53.000 Right.

00:12:54.000 Yeah.

00:12:54.000 Right?

00:12:55.000 So Yeah, it was just the life thing when I was talking to those people, I was like, you know, 20 or 30 minutes in the conversation, big, oh wow, like, yeah, you're not kind of who I thought you were.

00:13:04.000 Right.

00:13:05.000 And I'm like, yeah, because you let people you let people tell you who I was in 30 second clips.

00:13:11.000 You know, it's not like I have four hours of podcasting every single week that you can indulge in to figure it out.

00:13:16.000 What do they try to label you as?

00:13:18.000 Like, what is the what's the angle they take on you?

00:13:21.000 Is it your part of the manosphere?

00:13:23.000 Oh, you're heterosexual.

00:13:24.000 And I hate it.

00:13:24.000 That's a good one.

00:13:25.000 Heterosexual is a real problem in this day and age.

00:13:28.000 Yeah, no, no, it's uh yeah, I think that like manosphere, I think there's like Rogan verse, like manosphere, like and I think that this is kind of a new iteration post election.

00:13:38.000 So I think what a lot of people are are struggling with the fact is they're trying to like find a way that the Democrats lost the election without taking any accountability for like what they were doing.

00:13:50.000 So it's like, oh, because he went on Rogan and Schultz and Theo's podcast.

00:13:50.000 Right.

00:13:54.000 That's the reason why he won.

00:13:55.000 It's like, no, they they kind of ran a dead guy that was very unpopular, and then they ran a woman that can't really talk that well in front of the camera. 0.74

00:14:02.000 An open border for four years that freaked everybody out.

00:14:05.000 Sure, sure, but like how like in New York, people aren't really worried about the open border.

00:14:08.000 Oh, they were.

00:14:09.000 You don't think they were?

00:14:10.000 I talked to a lot of people in New York that were upset about the migrants that had been shipped there that they were putting it up in the Roosevelt Hotel set was.

00:14:18.000 The mining crisis for sure, like New York, I think like affected people.

00:14:20.000 I'm not saying it didn't.

00:14:22.000 But like I don't think that they attach it to the border.

00:14:25.000 I think they're more just like, well, just don't send them here.

00:14:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:30.000 Like, you know, just keep them down there or whatever.

00:14:33.000 Like you guys chose to live near the border.

00:14:36.000 Oh, yeah.

00:14:37.000 They sent it to Martha's Vineyards.

00:14:39.000 Like, get the fuck out of here.

00:14:41.000 They moved about so quick.

00:14:43.000 Martha's Vineyard is all liberals, bro.

00:14:47.000 It's all super rich.

00:14:49.000 It's Mercedes driving limo.

00:14:51.000 It's the NIMBY is a what is it called?

00:14:53.000 Not in my backyard.

00:14:54.000 Exactly.

00:14:55.000 That's like the and there's a, you know, Ezra Klein, do you know, Ezra?

00:14:55.000 Right?

00:14:57.000 Yeah, and like Ezra did a great piece, and it's so funny because like he's trying to be reasonable right now.

00:15:02.000 He's like trying to have No and they're calling him a right winger. 0.58

00:15:04.000 And I keep and I keep hitting him up and I'm like, bro, you're doing the right thing when there are groups that like hate you because you're actually trying to like win an election, you're trying to be reasonable.

00:15:14.000 He had this whole thing about like, hey, the reason why they can build a lot of buildings in Texas and why we can't in Los Angeles is because there are restrictive laws, and people are like, this guy's an animal.

00:15:25.000 And I'm just like, all right, buddy.

00:15:27.000 I don't know what to do.

00:15:28.000 So I understand that frustration.

00:15:31.000 Shit, I've felt it a million different times.

00:15:33.000 Like you try to be nuanced and reasonable.

00:15:35.000 There's really no place on the internet for it because why would the algorithm reward anything nuanced and reasonable?

00:15:43.000 That's not entertaining.

00:15:44.000 I want to see Nick Fuentes talk shit.

00:15:46.000 Right.

00:15:47.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:15:48.000 I don't want to see like a thoughtful take from some like TV host.

00:15:51.000 You want Sam Hyde.

00:15:52.000 I'm getting wild, Sam.

00:15:54.000 Like I it now, does it mean that I agree with these things?

00:15:54.000 You know what I mean?

00:15:58.000 No.

00:15:58.000 No, but the algorithm doesn't know what you agree with or not.

00:16:01.000 They just know what you click on, share.

00:16:03.000 It's part of the fun of the internet in general, is that it's not regulated.

00:16:08.000 So when wild people break through and everybody goes, ah Bro, what did the what was the first thing we did with Sora?

00:16:15.000 You got MLK giving a speech and a down syndrome kid walks up and goes peanut butter.

00:16:19.000 Right, right.

00:16:20.000 Well, how about those videos where they had like Trump playing in a band and like there was a like Clinton was on the saxophone?

00:16:26.000 Did you ever see those?

00:16:27.000 Oh my god.

00:16:27.000 No.

00:16:28.000 But like we're gonna make it.

00:16:30.000 They're playing Credence Clear Rotter Revival together.

00:16:32.000 I mean I still when the down syndrome kid comes up and just says Peter Player.

00:16:37.000 It's guilt free because he's not a real person.

00:16:38.000 Right.

00:16:39.000 He's made up, right?

00:16:41.000 You can laugh at him.

00:16:42.000 We can laugh because it's not a real person.

00:16:43.000 Right.

00:16:44.000 But uh that brings the like what about AI down syndrome porn.

00:16:49.000 The sounds would be crazy.

00:16:51.000 I mean, we gotta see it just for the sounds, right?

00:16:54.000 It's just just Did they just announce that was is open AI doing an erotica version?

00:17:00.000 Bean butter.

00:17:03.000 No, yeah, they they said they wouldn't censor it.

00:17:05.000 They're like, it's not our job to be the moral police.

00:17:07.000 Oh, well then it's over.

00:17:08.000 Then it's Andrew Schultz porn all day long.

00:17:10.000 Yo, so that's so that's a crazy thing.

00:17:12.000 Can they do listen?

00:17:13.000 Hey, bro.

00:17:14.000 You handsome devil.

00:17:15.000 Hey, the mustache.

00:17:17.000 Is it it it's isn't moral police of the world after erotica chat GPT post blows up?

00:17:22.000 So that's the thing.

00:17:23.000 Can you do it?

00:17:24.000 Can you make porn with us?

00:17:26.000 Or can you just make it with like random?

00:17:27.000 100% can with you.

00:17:29.000 With what about you?

00:17:29.000 We can't make porn with you.

00:17:31.000 Me too.

00:17:32.000 I just want you to feel it.

00:17:35.000 You hit me with the Spider-Man me.

00:17:38.000 We made porn with you.

00:17:39.000 Do it.

00:17:40.000 Get 'em.

00:17:41.000 Well, it's gonna be a real problem with female celebrities. 1.00

00:17:43.000 And it already has been a problem.

00:17:44.000 They face swapped Natalie Portman onto porn stars bodies. 1.00

00:17:48.000 Remember, they were doing when we were kids with Photoshop.

00:17:50.000 The second Photoshop came out.

00:17:51.000 Yep, yep, yeah.

00:17:52.000 There was like tons of porn.

00:17:53.000 Who's the lady that ran for president from Alaska? 1.00

00:17:55.000 Oh, Sarah Pale.

00:17:56.000 Sarah Palin was like every single porn video. 1.00

00:17:59.000 So yeah, why would they not do it?

00:17:59.000 Yeah.

00:18:01.000 They're doing it.

00:18:02.000 So the thing is a real thing We won't be upset as long as like we're we're throwing it down.

00:18:02.000 100%.

00:18:08.000 Like we'll be upset if like our wives are in it. 0.99

00:18:10.000 Right, that'll be an issue.

00:18:11.000 But if somebody makes a porn where I got like a huge cock and I'm just fucking shit up.

00:18:15.000 But the problem is it's gonna be your wife getting teamed on. 1.00

00:18:18.000 It won't even be like why are we putting these things out there in the world?

00:18:23.000 Why do you keep giving them ideas?

00:18:25.000 The internet is a dangerous place.

00:18:27.000 And it always ends up with me getting fucked. 0.86

00:18:29.000 Uh yeah, the world's dark right now with this because there's no rules and people are just it's sort of like if you gave the world matches for the first time.

00:18:38.000 And they're like, I could just start a fire.

00:18:41.000 Do you think they did that initially when they created fire?

00:18:43.000 They're like, we need some rules for this shit.

00:18:46.000 For sure should.

00:18:47.000 I mean, I thought about it.

00:18:49.000 Was that like the original?

00:18:51.000 Is it that I don't even have to have a license to have one of the most powerful forces in the world at the palm of my hand and I could be six.

00:18:57.000 Okay.

00:18:58.000 Imagine after the Chicago fire, right?

00:19:00.000 Like eighty percent of the city is decimated.

00:19:03.000 I don't even know what year that is.

00:19:04.000 Probably eighteen hundreds or something like that.

00:19:05.000 Did they say, hmm, maybe we gotta take matches away from these motherfuckers. 1.00

00:19:09.000 Or like fireplaces or something.

00:19:10.000 Like I bet they didn't let you build a house out of wood anymore.

00:19:15.000 Houses are made out of wood.

00:19:16.000 Yeah, but we need concrete or something.

00:19:18.000 Like we need another.

00:19:20.000 Why'd they do it?

00:19:21.000 Probably for structural rigidity and um like from the cold, it's better l if you have like I wouldn't I would imagine there's a bunch of reasons to make something out of brick.

00:19:33.000 It's more it's hard to get into.

00:19:35.000 Oh, I imagine you may have light on fire.

00:19:37.000 Concrete is I mean, they're making by the way, they they probably should do this a long time ago, but they're they're making fireproof houses now and like Malibu and place like that, rich people.

00:19:47.000 Yeah, I you would imagine like if you're living in a place that like once the fire hits, no one's stopping shit.

00:19:54.000 So Yeah, they just busted somebody for that.

00:19:57.000 I know I saw that.

00:19:58.000 Like the person who started the fire.

00:19:59.000 Yeah.

00:20:00.000 It wasn't in Palisades, it was like the one that connected to it or something like that.

00:20:03.000 Something like that.

00:20:04.000 But this dude was like really into fires.

00:20:06.000 Like he had a bunch of chat GPT prompts about fires and that's an interesting autism right there.

00:20:12.000 It's a weird one, man.

00:20:13.000 You could have had trains or dinosaurs, but you got fired.

00:20:16.000 You got fires, bro.

00:20:18.000 There was one guy where they arrested he had a fake fire truck and he was at the palate's fire.

00:20:24.000 He was a convicted arsonist.

00:20:26.000 How much Tylenol your mom take a fireworker in a f a fake fire truck. 1.00

00:20:30.000 He bought a fire.

00:20:31.000 Oh, so a real fire truck.

00:20:32.000 Yeah, he bought a fire truck.

00:20:33.000 Yeah, painted the logo on it or whatever, and then drove it to the palaces where the fires were over there.

00:20:39.000 Oh, and they started the fires, but nobody suspected it.

00:20:42.000 They don't know if he started fires.

00:20:43.000 They don't know.

00:20:44.000 Yeah.

00:20:45.000 But they do know that this arsonist was at the fires with a fire truck.

00:20:50.000 And they're like, You're not a fireman, dude.

00:20:52.000 In fact, you're the opposite of a fire.

00:20:54.000 I just think that's why it's kind of it's it's like a brilliant disguise.

00:20:58.000 Yeah.

00:20:58.000 Well, in the middle of the chaos, you know, Huberman filmed a bunch of guys lighting fires.

00:21:03.000 He said it was nuts.

00:21:05.000 He said there was like t teams of people running around starting fires while the fires are going on.

00:21:11.000 Yeah.

00:21:11.000 He said he watched people do it.

00:21:13.000 People were screaming at him and honking their horn.

00:21:15.000 They arrested people that were doing it.

00:21:17.000 So once chaos break it's like they did a study a while back where they parked a car on the campus of Stanford and they parked a car.

00:21:28.000 I think it was in the Bronx.

00:21:30.000 The car in the Bronx got stripped immediately.

00:21:34.000 They they had families coming in, taking the battery and like openly.

00:21:40.000 The the car in Stanford didn't get fucked with at all.

00:21:40.000 Yeah.

00:21:43.000 They left it alone until someone broke they said, let's just mix this up and break one of the windows.

00:21:49.000 So they smashed the window.

00:21:51.000 And then within a day, it was like stripped apart.

00:21:51.000 Yeah.

00:21:54.000 Yeah.

00:21:55.000 The guy that was going in the uh they caught him at a checkpoint, but I think they're uh alluding that he was probably gonna go try to rob the houses.

00:22:03.000 It's a bunch of tools that they say were used in burglaries.

00:22:06.000 Interesting.

00:22:06.000 Well, he's probably trying to do that too.

00:22:08.000 I mean, he's a piece of shit.

00:22:10.000 But wasn't he already um an arsonist before this?

00:22:13.000 Yes, yes.

00:22:14.000 Yeah.

00:22:15.000 He's just an all around piece of shit.

00:22:16.000 It's not like, hey, I'm an arsonist, but I'm not a fucking thief.

00:22:20.000 Yeah, there's a lot of things.

00:22:20.000 I would steal jewelry.

00:22:22.000 Yeah.

00:22:22.000 Come on.

00:22:23.000 I saw people just running out of people's houses with TVs, like people were filming it from the street.

00:22:23.000 Yeah.

00:22:29.000 Just breaking in, kicking the door in, just running in teams of people with masks on.

00:22:29.000 Yeah.

00:22:34.000 Yeah.

00:22:35.000 Yeah, robbing somebody's personal home feels different.

00:22:38.000 I mean, it's fucked up to just break into a Kmart or any of those things.

00:22:41.000 Like, but you see how like you could get caught up in like um I don't know, I don't want to call it the excitement, but like, you know, you're a little fucking kid and something's going down, you're like, all right, let's get after it.

00:22:51.000 Yeah.

00:22:51.000 But like bringing it to somebody's home is a little it's horrible.

00:22:54.000 Yeah.

00:22:55.000 It's evil.

00:22:55.000 Yeah, because there's like a person behind it.

00:22:57.000 Whereas like Kmart is like his corporation.

00:22:59.000 Also, they're always gonna know you were in their home.

00:23:02.000 Like for the rest of their life.

00:23:03.000 Like they live with that.

00:23:04.000 Well, as long as they're back in that house, they're gonna know that when the fires broke out, you kicked in their front door and ransacked their house, and now they're sitting in it.

00:23:12.000 If the house didn't burn down, now they're sitting in the house.

00:23:15.000 The house probably burnt down.

00:23:16.000 Yeah.

00:23:16.000 Which is, I guess, their logic is like get in there now, otherwise there's gonna be a puddle of shit on the ground instead of a Rolex.

00:23:24.000 Let's go get it.

00:23:24.000 Yeah.

00:23:25.000 You know?

00:23:25.000 Yeah.

00:23:26.000 It's crazy how like the fires weren't even that long ago.

00:23:30.000 I know.

00:23:31.000 It wasn't that long ago, and they but they haven't even touched a house.

00:23:33.000 Adam Carolla just did a video about it.

00:23:35.000 What do you say?

00:23:36.000 He first of all, he called it.

00:23:37.000 Corolla called it a long time ago, because Corrol has been involved in construction his whole life.

00:23:41.000 Right.

00:23:41.000 So he knows how hard it is to get permits to build in the palace.

00:23:45.000 It's like no one is going to rebuild.

00:23:48.000 This is But they haven't even touched it.

00:23:50.000 Yeah, but I think they just said that they're gonna start like stripping back some of that legislation.

00:23:54.000 Exactly.

00:23:55.000 They're gonna start putting low income housing up there.

00:23:57.000 This is what happened with uh I think it was in like I think it was in Philadelphia, right?

00:24:01.000 I think it was uh there was like a bridge that collapsed.

00:24:04.000 You remember this?

00:24:05.000 Was this in Philly, Pennsylvania?

00:24:06.000 And I think the governor was like, okay, we have to rebuild this because obviously there's gonna be like huge traffic situations, like we just we need this thing.

00:24:14.000 This is just how humans are gonna kind of get around.

00:24:17.000 And uh so they stripped all legislation and they were able to put it up in a matter of weeks, if I'm not mistaken.

00:24:23.000 Jamie, you know what I'm talking about?

00:24:24.000 Yeah.

00:24:25.000 I know what you're talking about.

00:24:26.000 I remember that story.

00:24:27.000 I remember something.

00:24:28.000 How long would this take if we didn't strip all the legislation?

00:24:30.000 They're like uh 16 to 18 months.

00:24:33.000 So you did it in three weeks compared to 16, 18 months.

00:24:37.000 I think this is where people get like frustrated with all the the the bureaucracy and the red tape.

00:24:42.000 Now, I also believe in some red tape.

00:24:45.000 Like I live in New York City.

00:24:47.000 There's somebody renovating above us right now.

00:24:49.000 I got a kid.

00:24:51.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:51.000 So it's like I would like a little red tape to make sure they're just not hammering 24 hours a day.

00:24:56.000 Right.

00:24:56.000 We live on top of each other.

00:24:57.000 You live in Texas, there's probably you don't even see your neighbor.

00:25:01.000 You could have a little less red tape.

00:25:03.000 Right.

00:25:04.000 But then we get to a point in New York where it's like, okay, is it impossible to renovate ever?

00:25:08.000 Maybe that's too much.

00:25:09.000 But there needs to be some in different situations.

00:25:11.000 100%.

00:25:12.000 I completely agree.

00:25:13.000 I got in a conversation about that a long time ago with Dave Rubin, where we were talking about uh regulations for construction sites that you don't you don't need inspectors.

00:25:22.000 And I was like, oh my god.

00:25:24.000 Yeah, that's the Bro, they'll put they'll put the cancer in the kids' cereal.

00:25:28.000 Yeah, they don't give a fuck.

00:25:29.000 Like if you don't regulate the food, they'll put anything in it.

00:25:33.000 Well, that's so you need to have somebody looking after it.

00:25:36.000 It's in it right now.

00:25:36.000 This is this RFK Junior shit where they're they're turning him into a quack.

00:25:40.000 This is and these companies are gonna go under if they have to follow these regulations.

00:25:43.000 They're following them already in Canada.

00:25:45.000 Exactly.

00:25:45.000 It's like same factory.

00:25:48.000 Same fruit loops.

00:25:49.000 And now we gotta feel bad for Kellogg's.

00:25:51.000 Right?

00:25:51.000 We're like, oh my god, they're not gonna make it, poor Kellogg's.

00:25:54.000 Didn't um Newsom just veto a bill that would stop forever chemicals.

00:26:00.000 There was a bill that was stop forever chemicals being used on I think cook cooking utensils.

00:26:05.000 Like there's certain like nonstick cookware that has forever chemicals on it.

00:26:09.000 If you're scraping it with like a metal spatula, it'll probably get in your diet.

00:26:12.000 Yeah.

00:26:13.000 Not good.

00:26:14.000 Yeah.

00:26:14.000 I think he they were banning it.

00:26:15.000 So I think he vetoed it.

00:26:17.000 He vetoed a California bill banning cookware with PFAS's forever chemicals.

00:26:17.000 Yeah.

00:26:23.000 Says the bill would cause sudden product shift, sparking debate among chefs, lawmakers, and environmentalists.

00:26:29.000 No, no, the bill stops poison, bro.

00:26:32.000 The bill stops poison for going into human bodies.

00:26:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:36.000 You profit monster.

00:26:37.000 Yeah, did you you fucking profit monster?

00:26:40.000 Did you did you see uh there's a there's a guy named Van Van Leighton was asking him about APAC.

00:26:46.000 Did you see this?

00:26:47.000 He just says something interesting.

00:26:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:49.000 It's just interesting.

00:26:51.000 Well, I mean, it's not something I I don't think about it.

00:26:54.000 I don't it's uh interesting.

00:26:57.000 Like I'm interested in interested.

00:26:57.000 It's interesting.

00:27:02.000 Now I'm interested.

00:27:04.000 Yeah, what is he coming on?

00:27:04.000 Yeah.

00:27:06.000 He's talking some shit on Twitter.

00:27:08.000 It's a lot like you think that's gonna work.

00:27:08.000 I know.

00:27:10.000 Like that's so stupid.

00:27:12.000 Like this is such a bad look.

00:27:14.000 It's such a bad choice.

00:27:16.000 There's a little desperation in it.

00:27:17.000 But it's just stupid.

00:27:18.000 It's like this is a bad strategy.

00:27:20.000 Like I probably would have had him on.

00:27:22.000 But now I'm like, nah, what are you doing?

00:27:22.000 Yeah.

00:27:24.000 There is a fun version where you just do it and cook 'em.

00:27:27.000 You know?

00:27:28.000 He'll cook himself.

00:27:29.000 I mean, that seems to be all right.

00:27:31.000 All you have to do is just ask him questions.

00:27:33.000 Yeah, it's like, why are people leaving?

00:27:34.000 Well, why do you say this thing all the time where you rattle off all the good things about California?

00:27:39.000 When anybody says something bad about California, it's like number one at Fortune 500 companies, number one in higher education.

00:27:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:46.000 It was all that shit before you were there.

00:27:48.000 It was all that shit forever.

00:27:50.000 It's because the weather's perfect, man.

00:27:51.000 It has nothing to do with it.

00:27:52.000 California's an unbelievable state.

00:27:54.000 This is just what we have to call it's like the mountains in the oceans two hours apart.

00:27:58.000 It's unbelievable.

00:27:59.000 Yeah.

00:28:01.000 It's it's probably in terms of like one place, if you had to live in one state for the rest of your life, one state for the rest of your life.

00:28:09.000 You could never move.

00:28:10.000 And that was the only place you could live.

00:28:12.000 It's cal it's California.

00:28:13.000 It's like not even a question.

00:28:14.000 It's perfect.

00:28:15.000 If you want snow, you can have snow.

00:28:17.000 Yeah.

00:28:17.000 If you want to be in San Diego and the beach all day, you have the San Diego and the beach.

00:28:20.000 You can surf, you could snow, but you could do whatever the fuck you want.

00:28:22.000 You want to be a farmer, go find out parts of San Francisco, all kinds of parts of Oakland, all kinds of parts of you know the San Fernando Valley.

00:28:30.000 It's so different.

00:28:31.000 It's like there's so many different ways you can live in California.

00:28:35.000 But they're fucking problems and people are leaving.

00:28:37.000 Like if people are leaving the place you're in charge of, don't be upset if people are critical of how you've been managing it.

00:28:44.000 Yeah.

00:28:45.000 Like Hollywood, I I've been talking to like people who are making films, like the producers of films.

00:28:50.000 Not like the actors, right?

00:28:52.000 Like the actual people who are putting the money up to make films, right?

00:28:54.000 Because they'll give you the real.

00:28:56.000 Like we're filming in Australia.

00:28:56.000 Right.

00:28:57.000 I'm like, guys, why the fuck are we filming Australia?

00:28:59.000 Like Australia's nice, but why the fuck are we here?

00:29:02.000 And they're like, you can't make a movie in Hollywood.

00:29:04.000 I go, what do you mean you can't make it they go, you can't I go, where was Hollywood on the list of places we could film?

00:29:11.000 I go, give me the number.

00:29:12.000 And he they're like, not even top ten.

00:29:15.000 Not even top ten.

00:29:17.000 Wow.

00:29:18.000 It's it was Australia, you get sixty percent off in taxes or something like that.

00:29:22.000 Sixty.

00:29:24.000 We're talking about if you're making like a ten million dollar rom com, that's one thing.

00:29:27.000 If you're making a hundred million dollar, two hundred million dollar film, sixty percent off in taxes?

00:29:33.000 So something's happening in LA and it's fucked up because I look at LA kind of like a college football town, but college football is the film industry.

00:29:33.000 Yeah.

00:29:42.000 And it's like if you don't nurture that, I'm not worried about the actors.

00:29:47.000 It's like there's a guys who do the lighting.

00:29:49.000 They do transpo.

00:29:51.000 These are guys who are like they're like working class guys, they make good money, don't get me wrong.

00:29:54.000 But like that goes away.

00:29:56.000 The crew that came out to film, like a lot of the crew that came out to film in Australia was from LA.

00:30:00.000 And a lot of them have moved to LA, they've moved to like San Diego, like my boy Nick was AD, he's like, yeah, there's just no work in LA right now, so we'll travel for the job, and then I just live the rest of my time in San Diego.

00:30:10.000 That's a problem.

00:30:12.000 Netflix just built this like billion dollar fucking studio in Jersey.

00:30:15.000 Did you see this?

00:30:16.000 No.

00:30:16.000 So like they're gonna start taking production over there.

00:30:19.000 I'm just saying, like, you have the industry that everybody knows Los Angeles for.

00:30:24.000 What other thing do we know LA for?

00:30:26.000 That's it.

00:30:27.000 It's being famous.

00:30:28.000 Music, movies.

00:30:30.000 Yeah.

00:30:31.000 It's all LA.

00:30:32.000 That's all LA is.

00:30:33.000 I don't even know what music is coming out of there anymore.

00:30:35.000 Like when we were kids, you think about like what those those iconic like rock and roll venues.

00:30:40.000 Right.

00:30:40.000 Well, it's also a town of lost children, right?

00:30:44.000 Like the one of the problems with LA is like if you wanted to talk about a town that doesn't have like an emotional base that's healthy.

00:30:53.000 Like the the main motivation of uh a good percentage of the people that came out there is to just to get attention to make up for a shitty childhood.

00:31:02.000 Like that's the main the main population.

00:31:07.000 LA is is attention to make up for a shitty childhood.

00:31:10.000 New York is money to make up for a shitty childhood.

00:31:13.000 Yes!

00:31:14.000 That's really what it is.

00:31:15.000 Yes!

00:31:16.000 It's like New York is the hedge funds of the banks because it's like, okay, my dad wasn't around, my mom hated me, but I'm gonna make a billion dollars, and that's it.

00:31:24.000 My mom was on pills and barely there, and you know, developed enough sociopathy like I can be this fucking hedge fund guy that's gonna take over the world.

00:31:33.000 That's what they believe.

00:31:34.000 And then LA is the same thing, but it's just pats on the back.

00:31:37.000 I want people to love me.

00:31:38.000 Yeah, it's both two different versions of American Psycho.

00:31:41.000 Yeah.

00:31:42.000 I'm trying to wonder like which one is worse.

00:31:44.000 Like New York is uh better because at least they have more information.

00:31:49.000 They have more things they can talk to you about.

00:31:51.000 What I say, yeah.

00:31:52.000 What I always say about New York is like uh we still we still appreciate greatness even if you're not even if you're not wealthy.

00:31:59.000 So like the best skateboarder is really cool in New York.

00:32:03.000 The best street artist is really cool.

00:32:03.000 Yeah.

00:32:05.000 Like, right, right.

00:32:06.000 Whereas I think LA, because it's built around the entertainment industry, it's like whatever's hot.

00:32:11.000 You could have a dog shit movie, but if it's the biggest movie, you're the guy.

00:32:15.000 Yeah.

00:32:16.000 And because there is that dependence on like star power over there.

00:32:19.000 Where I think is New York is like the kind of dependence is the banks.

00:32:19.000 Uh-huh.

00:32:22.000 Like the industry doesn't rely.

00:32:24.000 So like we get to masquerade as like really enjoying artists.

00:32:28.000 Right.

00:32:28.000 Like, you could be a bad motherfucker and be playing in like subway tunnels.

00:32:32.000 And people like, oh, this guy's the List.

00:32:34.000 And some guys do like make it out of there like that.

00:32:38.000 Like Charlie Crockett.

00:32:39.000 Busking, I believe it's called.

00:32:40.000 Well, yeah, Charlie Crockett used to just pull up and start playing.

00:32:43.000 You don't know who Charlie Crockett is?

00:32:45.000 Did they do a 50s version of version of his music?

00:32:47.000 No, no, no.

00:32:48.000 That's the only way I know.

00:32:49.000 No, he's he does like a 50s version of his music.

00:32:52.000 Oh.

00:32:52.000 He's like a country guy who was a street kid.

00:32:55.000 Oh.

00:32:56.000 Yeah, man.

00:32:57.000 My dad, Charlie.

00:32:58.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

00:32:59.000 He had really good now.

00:33:02.000 He's got a voice where you're like, oh, this guy's seen some shit.

00:33:06.000 Oh, really?

00:33:06.000 Yeah.

00:33:07.000 Okay, I gotta check that.

00:33:08.000 His so he used to.

00:33:10.000 He would sing on fucking subway cars.

00:33:10.000 This is fire.

00:33:14.000 He would sing, you know, in the tunnels.

00:33:16.000 Yeah.

00:33:16.000 He would do his shit on street corners.

00:33:19.000 He was like homeless for a long time.

00:33:20.000 Yeah.

00:33:21.000 And now he's killing it.

00:33:22.000 Yeah.

00:33:23.000 Very, very interesting guy.

00:33:25.000 But that's New York, right?

00:33:26.000 He was in New York doing country music outside.

00:33:29.000 Yeah.

00:33:29.000 You can do stuff like that in New York, and people are like, look at this bad motherfucker.

00:33:33.000 That's the thing.

00:33:34.000 They do it in LA, they're like, you fucking loser.

00:33:36.000 You're never gonna be Bruce Springsteen.

00:33:38.000 They don't care about the best pool player in LA.

00:33:38.000 Whatever it is.

00:33:42.000 But New York, there's like a little bubble that you could exist in where you're like the king of the fucking castle.

00:33:42.000 No.

00:33:48.000 True.

00:33:49.000 LA has no pool halls.

00:33:50.000 And it's just like another version.

00:33:52.000 It's like everything is geared around entertainment.

00:33:54.000 And I get it.

00:33:55.000 It's like if you're the coach of the football team in Ohio State, like you're the guy.

00:33:55.000 That's it.

00:33:59.000 Yeah.

00:34:00.000 But I think it's kind of cool in New York that you have these little bubbles where you know people really value this niche thing that you do.

00:34:07.000 Well, New York has strong communities of bubbles, right?

00:34:11.000 Like the pool thing is a good example because LA at one time had Hollywood billiards, which was a 24-hour pool hall that was filled with hustlers.

00:34:19.000 It was like a notorious place.

00:34:21.000 Like if you were a New York pool player and you were coming to LA, you went to Hollywood and you you went downstairs, and there's all these like you could get a game.

00:34:33.000 It's underground.

00:34:35.000 A lot of them.

00:34:35.000 It's like at least back where I'm like, that was Chelsea.

00:34:37.000 Chelsea Village was underground too.

00:34:39.000 Like some of the big that was a good one.

00:34:40.000 And then the one up on 86 was at uh I think at one point it was Amsterdam, but it was upstairs.

00:34:45.000 It was upstairs, and then there was another one on 86th Street on the east side that was downstairs.

00:34:48.000 Oh yeah, the downstairs one's probably shiftier.

00:34:51.000 That was the one that uh Nicky Shulman, the guy I was telling you about that I went to middle school with in elementary school.

00:34:56.000 Oh, he would go to that one?

00:34:57.000 That's what we would just go during lunch, and I was like, why is this guy like this place?

00:35:00.000 There was hundreds of pool halls in the the 90s when I lived in New York.

00:35:04.000 Hundreds.

00:35:05.000 You'd go to these like 24 hour Chinese joints.

00:35:08.000 You go in Chinatown and there's killer players and they could barely speak English.

00:35:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:13.000 You it but but the my point is LA only had one.

00:35:17.000 My boy, my boy, the Chinese kid, we called him cowboy. 0.98

00:35:20.000 We went to uh he was he was in our school.

00:35:22.000 I mean, like the kid had the strongest Chinese accent.

00:35:24.000 I think he was born in America, it was crazy. 1.00

00:35:26.000 It was like it's like as I didn't even understand.

00:35:28.000 I was like, this guy's gotta be putting it on.

00:35:30.000 He lived in like the Chinese version of like the projects in Chinatown, right?

00:35:35.000 And he had a pool table in his apartment.

00:35:39.000 Whoa.

00:35:40.000 There's no room in the apartment.

00:35:42.000 It's the projects, right?

00:35:43.000 Like I'm watching his mom like skirt around the pool table.

00:35:46.000 Half the shot you can't even do it, but like the obsession was unreal.

00:35:49.000 And Cowboy was was legit.

00:35:51.000 Yeah.

00:35:52.000 Oh, you need a place to practice in the dark when no one's looking.

00:35:55.000 That's the thing about pool players. 0.95

00:35:55.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:35:56.000 Wait, wait.

00:35:57.000 You want to get good when no one's watching.

00:35:59.000 So you could sneak up on people.

00:36:00.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:36:01.000 So they they have this idea how good you play, but you play a lot better than that.

00:36:04.000 You gotta be able to practice in silence.

00:36:06.000 Yeah.

00:36:07.000 But now with the internet, you can't hustle anymore.

00:36:09.000 I feel like No, there's no hustling anymore.

00:36:11.000 So maybe a few guys that could pull it off on idiots. 0.99

00:36:14.000 But amongst high level guys, you can't ever you're all the action is knocked.

00:36:19.000 My point was there's only one place in all of LA.

00:36:22.000 LA had 20 million people.

00:36:22.000 Right.

00:36:24.000 There was one place that was pretty good.

00:36:26.000 Yeah.

00:36:26.000 There was uh there was a place in um the valley, there was a couple places in like when you start going out towards Santa Barbara, well tout that there was a few places, but as far as like the volume of New York City, it was not even close.

00:36:43.000 It was New York, Connecticut, New Jersey.

00:36:45.000 They were all filled with legendary pool hall.

00:36:48.000 We used to play at West End Billiards in uh New Jersey.

00:36:51.000 They had a weekly tournament with like pros.

00:36:53.000 It was in Elizabeth, New Jersey.

00:36:55.000 Super sketchy area.

00:36:55.000 Yeah.

00:36:58.000 Super sketchy.

00:36:59.000 But you would go there and you'd see Steve Mizerak playing Rodney Morris, two world class world championship level pool pool players in this shitty ass fucking weird spot with a diner counter there.

00:37:13.000 It was it was they were everywhere.

00:37:16.000 It's a cool world, the pool world.

00:37:18.000 Oh, it's it's a great world.

00:37:19.000 I remember I was here, forget what it was, but like there you had a guy down here, I don't know if he just did the pod, but he was like an OG, and I think he like commentates maybe now, but Jeremy Jones my boy, yeah.

00:37:31.000 And uh he could hold court, like he was always storyteller.

00:37:35.000 Yeah, he's a funny dude.

00:37:36.000 He's got he was on the podcast too.

00:37:37.000 He's got some great fucking stories.

00:37:39.000 Yeah, that was cool.

00:37:40.000 It's all that dude won the US Open.

00:37:43.000 The US opens the pool tournament.

00:37:45.000 Where it's the US Open, but people come from everywhere.

00:37:48.000 Yeah.

00:37:49.000 Like people come from all around the world.

00:37:51.000 Taiwan, Germany, uh all over the place to play in that tournament.

00:37:55.000 Jeremy won that shit.

00:37:55.000 That's the big one.

00:37:57.000 That's how good he plays.

00:37:57.000 He won that shit.

00:38:00.000 Like being like essentially like a traveling pool hustler, and like popping into a town where you heard there was some game and you travel with like a couple other people, one guy would like uh sense it out.

00:38:10.000 He would go play a couple games, see who's there, and then Jeremy would just come in and just clean up for two weeks straight, and then you're out of there.

00:38:17.000 Yep.

00:38:18.000 It is and you play like you suck at first.

00:38:21.000 At first, right?

00:38:21.000 That's right.

00:38:22.000 Yeah, the first week you just let people beat up on you a little bit, and then the second week you eat their lunch.

00:38:27.000 Depends on how thick your bankroll is.

00:38:29.000 You know, like if you could start off like just you you only got like 150 to lose, you know, like you have your gambling money, like what can we fuck with before we start getting into real money?

00:38:39.000 Yeah.

00:38:39.000 Because if you want to get somebody on the hook, you don't want to get them on the hook for a hundred dollars.

00:38:42.000 You want to get them on the hook for five thousand.

00:38:44.000 Hook means you want them to have the confidence that they'll beat you.

00:38:47.000 Ye well, when they're on the hook is when they're fucked.

00:38:50.000 Right.

00:38:51.000 So you let them win a few games and then you say, Let's bet some fucking real money.

00:38:56.000 Yeah.

00:38:56.000 And you know, you look nervous and shit, and then you you get a game for five thousand dollars.

00:39:01.000 You're like, Okay, here we go.

00:39:03.000 And then you loosen up, then all of a sudden the stroke is smooth, and he's like, What the fuck happens like midway through that game when someone realizes they're being hustled?

00:39:12.000 Oh, they get mad.

00:39:13.000 I've been there.

00:39:14.000 Not with me.

00:39:15.000 I was never good enough to hustle people, but my friend Johnny was a professional pool hustler.

00:39:19.000 My friend Johnny was a homeless guy.

00:39:21.000 Not the guy that from Connecticut.

00:39:22.000 No, that's Tommy.

00:39:23.000 Tommy.

00:39:24.000 That's Tommy.

00:39:25.000 Tommy was different.

00:39:26.000 Tommy wasn't as crazy as Johnny.

00:39:28.000 Like Tommy's clean and sober.

00:39:30.000 He has been like he smokes a little weed, but like his whole life, he never drank, never did drugs.

00:39:36.000 And he was an elite pool player.

00:39:36.000 Right.

00:39:38.000 But Johnny was the Johnny actually used to play at the subways too.

00:39:41.000 He used to go downstairs.

00:39:42.000 He was a musician, so he would he would had a little keyboard and shit.

00:39:45.000 That was one of the ways that he made money.

00:39:47.000 But he would hustle people.

00:39:49.000 He tried to hustle me.

00:39:49.000 That's how I met him.

00:39:51.000 Yeah, he just comes over and he starts, you know, talking like, dude, you play pretty good.

00:39:55.000 You want to play some?

00:39:56.000 And I was like, What?

00:39:57.000 We talking about man.

00:39:58.000 Did you have the defenses up?

00:39:59.000 Like you're right away.

00:40:00.000 I knew I could smell a predator.

00:40:02.000 I was like, get the fuck out of here.

00:40:03.000 So we became friends.

00:40:07.000 So he so he sees it.

00:40:09.000 Do you respect the hustle?

00:40:10.000 A hundred percent.

00:40:11.000 Okay, so within pool, someone trying to hustle you, it's not seen as it's not seen as like um an act of aggression at all.

00:40:17.000 It's just like this is part of the game.

00:40:19.000 Part of the part of the fun.

00:40:20.000 Yeah.

00:40:21.000 It's part of the fun.

00:40:22.000 Oh, so you almost appreciate when someone 100%, because you you don't know.

00:40:25.000 Like, is this guy fucking with me?

00:40:27.000 You play good.

00:40:28.000 Do you play good?

00:40:29.000 And you don't know.

00:40:30.000 Did you ever see the movie The Color of Money?

00:40:32.000 This is the one.

00:40:32.000 No.

00:40:33.000 there's a scene where was it uh Paul Newman and Forrest Whitaker.

00:40:36.000 Forrest Whitaker hustles Paul Newman.

00:40:38.000 Yeah.

00:40:39.000 And uh and he at one point in time, Paul Newman goes, Are you a hustler?

00:40:44.000 Are you a hustler?

00:40:45.000 Because Paul Newman in the movie The Hustler was the guy who did that to other people.

00:40:49.000 He pretended he sucked.

00:40:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:51.000 And then he would eventually get all their money.

00:40:53.000 Yeah.

00:40:53.000 And he goes, uh, and Forrest Whitaker looks at him and goes, What, you want to quit?

00:40:57.000 Hey.

00:40:58.000 He goes, You can quit.

00:41:01.000 And he's like, fuck you.

00:41:02.000 He's like, all right, let's go.

00:41:03.000 And then these he's got him on the hook because he's better than him.

00:41:06.000 And Paul Newman has to realize, oh my God, this young guy is better than me.

00:41:10.000 And he's stealing my money.

00:41:11.000 And at the end he asks him a question.

00:41:12.000 He goes, Can I ask you a question?

00:41:14.000 Do you think that needs to lose some weight?

00:41:17.000 And he just smiles at him and he just walks off.

00:41:19.000 Because you know, Forrest Whitaker is fat.

00:41:21.000 Yeah.

00:41:22.000 You know, he just smiled at him and he just peels the hundreds off the table and leaves.

00:41:27.000 That's part of the fun.

00:41:29.000 Part of the fun is like maybe you're gonna get got.

00:41:32.000 But it can only happen in two ways.

00:41:34.000 But if you are naive or if you suck.

00:41:37.000 Because if you're the best, you can't get hustled.

00:41:39.000 Yeah, I guess what I'm trying to say is like uh in in just regular life, if somebody was trying to hustle me, I'd be like, fuck you, you're an asshole.

00:41:46.000 Right.

00:41:47.000 But there's a different, it's almost like prison rules.

00:41:49.000 Like there's a different set of rules.

00:41:51.000 Like being racist is wrong in regular life.

00:41:53.000 And then everybody goes into prison, it's like, all right, we're gonna divide this thing up a little bit, you know?

00:42:00.000 Throw it back to the 1800s, you know, yeah, we're going, right?

00:42:03.000 Like, and it's just like I don't even know if they look at it as hateful.

00:42:06.000 I think they're like, this is just what we gotta do to make it through.

00:42:09.000 I assume that's kind of more or less what I'm sure there's hateful guys within it, yes.

00:42:12.000 Yeah.

00:42:13.000 But like so, so I just I just find it interesting when people have different rule sets that they operate within society.

00:42:21.000 Yes.

00:42:22.000 And I feel like this is one of them where a guy's coming over to essentially steal your money, but you understand that the game is that, so you're like, okay, I'm gonna let you like riz me up a little bit.

00:42:33.000 Like I'm gonna let you fake charm me, and I might actually get you over. 0.75

00:42:37.000 And there's no animosity between the sharks.

00:42:39.000 Have you ever seen two elite pool players talk about the game about like setting up a game?

00:42:44.000 They're like, I don't know, I haven't been playing.

00:42:46.000 Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:47.000 I haven't been hitting balls, you know, I'm not really I don't I I can't give you any weight, man.

00:42:51.000 I'm just not playing that good.

00:42:52.000 Weight is like weight is like a spot.

00:42:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:55.000 So like if nine ball, so like if you and I are playing nine ball and you were kinda good, I was like, oh look, I'll give you the eight ball, which means you could win by pocketing the eight ball or the nine ball.

00:43:05.000 It way increases your uh ability to win the game.

00:43:09.000 Because you can make combinations, you could luck in the eight ball, luck in the nine, and I would say it's call or wild.

00:43:15.000 Resent.

00:43:16.000 It's wild, it means you could knock into some balls and accidentally knock in the eight ball and you'd win the game.

00:43:20.000 Yeah.

00:43:20.000 I would say, I'll give you the call shot eight, and you're like, no, I need it wild, and we'd have this conversation.

00:43:25.000 I need it wild, and I need the brakes, like, oh, I don't know about the brakes.

00:43:28.000 And you'd have to like work out a game, a spot.

00:43:31.000 So like that's where the hustling comes in, because someone pretends they need weight that can beat you.

00:43:39.000 They could beat you already.

00:43:40.000 And then they get you to give them weight.

00:43:42.000 So now yeah, now you got a lot of confidence going in.

00:43:44.000 You're like, this guy sucks to the point where I gotta give him a.

00:43:47.000 Do you know open micers that are way too confident for their actual ability?

00:43:51.000 You know open micers that think they're doing well, or guys in the beginning.

00:43:54.000 I mean, I don't know any open micers anymore.

00:43:58.000 Yes, but you remember, yes, yes.

00:44:00.000 That's the same way with pool players.

00:44:02.000 There's pool players that are kinda okay, but think they're a lot better than they are.

00:44:06.000 And if if they're a moron and you could dance with their ego a little bit, like, dude, I saw you play uh Mikey, you're fucking amazing, man.

00:44:14.000 When you get loose, you're way better than me.

00:44:17.000 And the guy's like, I'll give you a spot.

00:44:19.000 And then he's giving you the eight ball, and he can't beat you even.

00:44:23.000 It's half of the fun.

00:44:25.000 Jeremy Jones told me a story about uh how he hustled Marcus Shimont.

00:44:29.000 Marcus Shimon's like a world-class pool player, like a top flight pool player, and he hustled him by getting him to give him weight.

00:44:37.000 And Jeremy could beat him even.

00:44:39.000 And why would Marcus do it?

00:44:41.000 Like he must have been around.

00:44:41.000 Because he didn't know any better.

00:44:42.000 He didn't know he wasn't aware.

00:44:44.000 Jeremy came up with a fake name.

00:44:45.000 Uh, okay, okay.

00:44:47.000 That's crazy.

00:44:48.000 That's well, they all had fake names.

00:44:50.000 Yeah.

00:44:51.000 They all had fake names.

00:44:52.000 Yeah, he told me that when he was coming down to Texas to get those games.

00:44:55.000 Like, yeah, you you come up with a fake name and like somebody else talks about you.

00:44:59.000 Yes.

00:45:00.000 Like your buddy who goes in to kind of like scope it out, talks about you.

00:45:03.000 He gambles high.

00:45:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:04.000 He's he's a wild boy.

00:45:06.000 He loses a lot, but he's not he's not scared of gamble.

00:45:08.000 And everybody loves to hear that kind of stupid talk.

00:45:10.000 Yeah.

00:45:11.000 Do you know who Efren Reyes is?

00:45:12.000 Yo, you told me about this guy, and then I started looking him up.

00:45:15.000 Bro.

00:45:15.000 But what was his other name?

00:45:16.000 Caesar Morales.

00:45:17.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:45:18.000 He came here from the Philippines.

00:45:20.000 This is how strong he was from another country, he had to change his name. 0.92

00:45:25.000 It's before Google, before Wikipedia.

00:45:29.000 Black and white photo.

00:45:31.000 There's a black and white photo that I have a t-shirt of was like Morales stuns the field at reds.

00:45:38.000 He came over from the Philippines and robbed everybody. 1.00

00:45:41.000 Rob the best blue players in America.

00:45:43.000 But he had a fake his name.

00:45:45.000 Because if he said Efren Reyes, you'd see the look on the Filipinos' face. 0.93

00:45:45.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:45:48.000 They're like, Ephraim, Everyone's here.

00:45:50.000 Yeah.

00:45:51.000 Yeah.

00:45:52.000 They called him Bata.

00:45:52.000 Bata.

00:45:54.000 The kid.

00:45:55.000 Was this I wonder if this is like early bad.

00:45:59.000 Oh, that's a good one.

00:45:59.000 That's it.

00:45:59.000 Look at that.

00:46:00.000 Look at that photo, bro.

00:46:01.000 Black and white photo.

00:46:06.000 Yeah.

00:46:06.000 It didn't have to be black and white in 85.

00:46:09.000 But that dude rolled over here and started fucking people up.

00:46:15.000 Oh, signs' name Efren Reyes.

00:46:18.000 Well, you know what it is?

00:46:19.000 Because when he played in the tournament, he went under the name of Cesar Morales, then he had a collect his money.

00:46:25.000 He needed like a real name where he had ID to cash the checks.

00:46:29.000 Bob says there's another guy that was using an alias too.

00:46:31.000 Well, Wade Crane.

00:46:32.000 Wade Crane would go around as Billy Johnson.

00:46:35.000 That was his name deplore when he was hustling.

00:46:37.000 Yeah.

00:46:37.000 Billy Johnson.

00:46:38.000 But he was Wade Crane.

00:46:39.000 He was this big fucking like linebacker looking dude who had a cannon for a break, just boom.

00:46:47.000 Yeah.

00:46:47.000 And then it would just run out on people all over the country.

00:46:50.000 And but the thing is you if you rob lemons, that's when you're getting in fights.

00:46:55.000 So if you rob regular people, that's a regular guy who who doesn't really play pool and you hustle him, that's when you get in fights.

00:47:05.000 Because they don't know how the this whole thing works.

00:47:08.000 Yeah, because they lied to me and stole my lemon.

00:47:11.000 Yeah.

00:47:11.000 They they think it's a crime.

00:47:13.000 You know, they play it better than you really amongst the sharks.

00:47:17.000 Yeah.

00:47:18.000 You have to be like really desperate to play lemons.

00:47:21.000 If you find some idiots just knocking some eight balls around and you could tell they can't play at all.

00:47:27.000 Yeah.

00:47:28.000 And you start talking shit to get in their ego, and you you convince one of these dummies to play you for money.

00:47:33.000 You're stealing money.

00:47:34.000 Yeah.

00:47:34.000 And they might kill you.

00:47:35.000 Yeah.

00:47:36.000 But if you do it to a guy who's involved in a gambling match for pool.

00:47:40.000 Yeah, that's different.

00:47:40.000 Him and his buddies are playing and they're professional fighters fighting each other.

00:47:44.000 Yeah.

00:47:45.000 Exactly.

00:47:46.000 It's the rules of engagement.

00:47:47.000 And amongst pool players, it's part of the fun.

00:47:50.000 Like they'll go for an hour and a half without making a game.

00:47:53.000 Just talking shit about different spots.

00:47:55.000 I'm gonna need this.

00:47:56.000 I'm gonna need that.

00:48:00.000 Oh yeah.

00:48:01.000 Like sometimes Foreplay.

00:48:03.000 Yeah.

00:48:04.000 Yeah.

00:48:04.000 Yeah, you don't want to go right in there.

00:48:06.000 Yeah.

00:48:06.000 Suck on it a little.

00:48:07.000 Yeah.

00:48:08.000 Get the juices flowing.

00:48:10.000 Come on.

00:48:11.000 It's fun to enjoy something.

00:48:17.000 Especially.

00:48:18.000 When you sit down at a restaurant, you don't immediately get food stuffed right in your face.

00:48:18.000 Yeah.

00:48:22.000 Yeah.

00:48:23.000 You sit down, you have a glass of wine, you start talking.

00:48:26.000 Let me tell you what this guy told me.

00:48:28.000 And then you're like, But are you doing that when you're when you're playing?

00:48:31.000 Like you said you're playing how many hours a week now?

00:48:34.000 It depends.

00:48:35.000 Sometimes I'll play like two hours in a day every day.

00:48:39.000 Okay, so let's say you're playing bare minimum, let's say ten hours a week.

00:48:42.000 Right.

00:48:44.000 That's not good enough.

00:48:45.000 Yeah, I know I know.

00:48:46.000 I mean, I remember when we were talking last time, you said that like pros play eight hours a day.

00:48:50.000 Yeah, but you said some crazy shit.

00:48:52.000 You said uh You're like, I don't start playing well until like hour six or something like that.

00:48:59.000 Hour two.

00:49:00.000 You said some shit about like I need to be a little drunk, I need to be like a little loose, like no, not drunk.

00:49:05.000 A little high helps.

00:49:06.000 It was one you started like everything that goes against what should work for like your physical ability.

00:49:12.000 Right.

00:49:12.000 I don't know.

00:49:13.000 So you see you mentioned something about like flow or something.

00:49:15.000 I think this is with Jones, too.

00:49:16.000 Like Jones was like, yeah, I like getting into it.

00:49:18.000 Like he'll he was like I'll I'll play for like six hours, and then I'm starting to really kind of warm up.

00:49:21.000 I'm locking in, I'm dialing in.

00:49:23.000 Yeah.

00:49:24.000 And that's why it's like first to a hundred.

00:49:27.000 Like that's another thing I didn't realize.

00:49:28.000 I didn't realize guys are playing A hundred games over like two days.

00:49:32.000 Three days.

00:49:33.000 120 is a big one.

00:49:35.000 I thought it's like, yo, we play a couple, it's like best out of five.

00:49:38.000 And he's like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:49:40.000 Like you're up, and sometimes part of it is being able to outlast them.

00:49:44.000 Mm-hmm.

00:49:45.000 Like the exhaustion takes over.

00:49:47.000 And sometimes people tap out.

00:49:48.000 Well, it's concentration goes away.

00:49:51.000 The like the the concentration of focusing on an edge of a ball at distance and then also not moving your arm off this line.

00:50:00.000 Yeah.

00:50:00.000 So there's a line that I'm when I'm stroking a ball, there's a meaning out of this.

00:50:04.000 Make it like Sora, Sora, do your thing.

00:50:07.000 Here we are.

00:50:08.000 I help you out.

00:50:09.000 Have the kids.

00:50:10.000 There's a man.

00:50:10.000 Peanut butter.

00:50:11.000 The, from the...

00:50:12.000 laughter From the elbow to the cradle, right?

00:50:19.000 I'm holding on to that cue like a baby bird.

00:50:22.000 Oh, really?

00:50:22.000 It's a soft uh Oh, it's very soft.

00:50:24.000 I hold on to like a like a little baby bird.

00:50:27.000 Yeah.

00:50:27.000 I never like death grip.

00:50:28.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 It's very light, very wood death grip it?

00:50:31.000 Who?

00:50:32.000 Being a but no. 0.97

00:50:37.000 See what Sora's doing to us?

00:50:39.000 Yeah, but it's a light grip, and then on the final stroke, you have to.

00:50:44.000 The thing is it's like even then, it's like mostly the weight of the Q. It's like a little bit of like wrist action, and I'm trying to like have as little I let the cue slip a little in my grip as it makes contact.

00:50:57.000 It's really like the weight of the cue.

00:50:59.000 Why would you want to reduce force?

00:51:00.000 It's not reducing force.

00:51:02.000 It's actually the opposite.

00:51:03.000 I actually get more force.

00:51:04.000 Oh, you let it slip forward into it.

00:51:07.000 Yeah, I thought on impact it slides back in your hands.

00:51:10.000 No, it goes through my hand.

00:51:11.000 I have to catch it before it goes away.

00:51:13.000 Got it, got it.

00:51:14.000 Jeremy calls it throwing the cue, and he showed me the technique.

00:51:18.000 And um it's also the the old school guys used to call it a slip stroke where the cue like slips in your hand a little bit.

00:51:25.000 And it's a sign that you're like barely like Ephren was the best at it.

00:51:29.000 Efren cradled the cue, like his hands were delicate.

00:51:33.000 He's barely holding it, and his wrist was loose, and it makes the cue ball dance.

00:51:38.000 Like there's no sliding.

00:51:40.000 If you hit it too hard, the cue ball slides.

00:51:43.000 It's like it gets pushed.

00:51:45.000 It's crude.

00:51:46.000 But if you hit it gently, you stroke the ball, it just rolls forward perfectly and collides with the other ball, gets perfect position.

00:51:55.000 It's a work of art.

00:51:56.000 But it's a work of art that only someone who practices it can understand.

00:52:00.000 People like I was telling you about playing paddle and how like obsessed I am, and you're you immediately were like, I'm playing pool 14 hours a week.

00:52:09.000 I don't I don't think people realize like how important it is to just have some shit that you enjoy.

00:52:14.000 So important.

00:52:15.000 You're not making money at or anything like that.

00:52:18.000 How nice is it?

00:52:18.000 It's just it's like a removal from all like this stupid stress, chaos, all people talking shit, what the internet is fabricated, like it's great to have a couple hours.

00:52:27.000 Maybe that's what it is.

00:52:28.000 Like I'm not sure.

00:52:29.000 Oh, it centers you for sure.

00:52:30.000 It there's some the like archery does that for me too.

00:52:34.000 Um you need something that you're focusing on getting really good at that's fucking hard who that doesn't give a shit who you are.

00:52:42.000 Yeah, doesn't give a shit what your name is, doesn't give a shit if you sold out Madison Square Garden.

00:52:46.000 Yeah.

00:52:46.000 Just you better put that fucking arrow on that target or you're a loser.

00:52:51.000 Yeah.

00:52:51.000 You're a loser.

00:52:53.000 Like put it in there.

00:52:55.000 And that's there's absolute truth in pool.

00:52:59.000 There's absolute truth in archery's absolute truth.

00:53:03.000 The arrow either hits the target or it does not.

00:53:06.000 There is no room for charisma, there's no room for bullshit.

00:53:11.000 It either gets in there or it does not.

00:53:13.000 And I think things like that, whether it's golf or paddle for you or whatever it is, jujitsu for some people.

00:53:21.000 You either tap someone or you do not.

00:53:23.000 You either get tapped or you tap them.

00:53:25.000 Yeah.

00:53:26.000 You know, and there's absolute truth in that.

00:53:29.000 And stuff like that is like really good for artists because art is so subjective.

00:53:35.000 Also, successful people.

00:53:37.000 Like it's nice to have something that humbles you.

00:53:40.000 Yes.

00:53:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:41.000 Like people are meeting you all day, they're probably so excited and like they're they're being versions of themselves around you.

00:53:48.000 You know?

00:53:48.000 Like, do you ever even feel like that?

00:53:50.000 Like how many people are you having like a normal conversation where you're like talking shit and they're not going, oh my god, I'm talking to Joe Rogan right now.

00:53:57.000 Like, is that why like is that why Being around comedians that you've known for so long is valuable to you.

00:54:03.000 Is that why like being around these pool guys that yes, they know you're Joe, but like once you start playing, like you either suck at pool, yeah, or you can play.

00:54:13.000 Like i is there like a uh does it like bring you back to humanity in some ways?

00:54:19.000 Oh, for sure it helps.

00:54:20.000 It keeps you humble.

00:54:20.000 Yeah.

00:54:21.000 Yeah.

00:54:22.000 Jiu Jitsu's the best at that.

00:54:23.000 Because not only are they beating you, they're literally killing you.

00:54:26.000 And you're saying, You just killed me.

00:54:28.000 Yeah.

00:54:28.000 Thanks, d don't rip my knee apart.

00:54:30.000 Thanks, don't don't break my arm.

00:54:31.000 Thank you.

00:54:32.000 It's like you get a guy get to an R bar, man.

00:54:37.000 It is so humiliating.

00:54:38.000 It's so funny that like this is like this is such a delicate thing before you die.

00:54:42.000 Yeah.

00:54:43.000 Well, often you even say it too.

00:54:45.000 Like sometimes you just say tap tap tap tap tap.

00:54:48.000 Yeah.

00:54:48.000 You know, like that uh that happened in one of the last UFCs.

00:54:51.000 Um a dude was saying, Tap tap tap uh Josh Emmett, uh when he got caught, he he got caught in an R bar and had a verbally tap.

00:54:59.000 It's uh you you get humbled.

00:55:02.000 You it's it's real.

00:55:02.000 Yeah.

00:55:04.000 It is what it is.

00:55:04.000 And if you don't have anything like that in life, you can like really have this aversion to losing.

00:55:09.000 Yeah.

00:55:09.000 And an aversion to losing is very fucking dangerous.

00:55:12.000 It's very fucking dangerous.

00:55:14.000 Yeah, you just get comfy.

00:55:15.000 Yep.

00:55:16.000 Yeah, you need to have something that you need to have something that scares you.

00:55:19.000 Being scared is good.

00:55:21.000 Well, it gives you some resilience.

00:55:22.000 It's like if you're a person who sleeps all day and now you have to run a marathon.

00:55:26.000 Well, you're not going to be able to.

00:55:27.000 Yeah.

00:55:28.000 Because you never ran.

00:55:29.000 But if you run all the time, you can run a fucking marathon and it's real relaxing.

00:55:29.000 Yeah.

00:55:29.000 Right.

00:55:33.000 You know?

00:55:34.000 It's really just how much you put into it.

00:55:36.000 And if you're not a person who's used to losing at anything ever, and then you lose, it's devastating for your whole life.

00:55:43.000 Yeah, this is like the um you know, if you're like a like a a prince or something like that.

00:55:49.000 Uh-huh.

00:55:50.000 Exactly.

00:55:50.000 You're Joffrey.

00:55:51.000 Yeah.

00:55:52.000 And that can happen, and you don't build up that resilience.

00:55:55.000 I almost feel like it's you almost have some empathy for it, you know, because like they never had 20 years, 30 years toiling in obscurity before they got success.

00:56:04.000 So they we uh you know, like we at least have something to like look back on and realize how fucking humbling it is and how shitty people can be, etc.

00:56:11.000 But like they never experienced it.

00:56:12.000 Childhood stars.

00:56:14.000 Childhood stars are all fucked up.

00:56:15.000 There's not I never met one of them that's got their you know, some of them are really interesting still, like Miley, Miley Sire, she's really interesting.

00:56:23.000 Yeah, she's very smart, and she's really good. 0.91

00:56:26.000 Like her music is like she's not trying to be like pop hit girl.

00:56:30.000 Yeah, she's just trying to express herself.

00:56:32.000 It's like real legit art, but they know you get that famous that young, your fucking Hannah Montana when you're a teenager and the whole world is cheering for you, and you don't get a little crazy because of that.

00:56:43.000 Yeah.

00:56:44.000 I never met one of them that's got their shit together.

00:56:46.000 Is that the Britney thing? 1.00

00:56:48.000 Yeah, a hundred percent, man.

00:56:50.000 But that's Michael Jackson, he's the best example of it of all time.

00:56:54.000 I wonder just what responsibility I wonder what responsibility like the people around them have.

00:56:59.000 A lot.

00:57:00.000 You know, a lot.

00:57:01.000 They might not know it while it's happening though.

00:57:03.000 Yeah, because they're getting paid off it.

00:57:08.000 It's still a thing in Hollywood.

00:57:10.000 What do you mean?

00:57:11.000 I mean, in Hollywood, when when you have children and your children want to act, people encourage it.

00:57:17.000 Yeah.

00:57:17.000 They like bring their kids to auditions.

00:57:19.000 They they call 'em, you know, what is audition moms or you know uh what's the term? 0.86

00:57:25.000 Stage moms.

00:57:26.000 Stage moms.

00:57:26.000 Yeah.

00:57:26.000 That's it.

00:57:27.000 Stage moms.

00:57:28.000 Like, dude, those are real, man.

00:57:29.000 I've worked with kids before on a TV show.

00:57:32.000 And like I had one of the moms of the kids was like, How does how does she get more work? 1.00

00:57:37.000 What does she need to do? 1.00

00:57:39.000 And I was like, I don't know.

00:57:40.000 I'm like, I don't come from this world.

00:57:42.000 I'm a comedian.

00:57:43.000 I come from a totally different world.

00:57:44.000 I don't I don't know how you go about doing it.

00:57:46.000 But the mom was like super desperate to get her kid more work. 1.00

00:57:50.000 And I was like, ooh.

00:57:51.000 And that's the tricky thing, because it's not like merit-based like sports in a lot of ways.

00:57:55.000 Like there are people that are good at shit, they're good at acting, etc.

00:57:58.000 But like a lot of it is maybe who you know, what they're willing to do, how uncomfortable a position they're willing to be in.

00:58:06.000 Most of that, I think.

00:58:07.000 Because most people at that level, especially like little kid acting, yeah, most people are pretty similar.

00:58:13.000 There's no like one little kid, like, oh my god, he's a Marlin Brando of little kids.

00:58:16.000 Yeah.

00:58:17.000 Like maybe there's Ricky Schroeder from The Champ.

00:58:19.000 Do you ever see that movie The Champ with John Voigt?

00:58:22.000 Oh my god, dude.

00:58:23.000 Oh my god, I saw I was a little kid, I cried my eyes out.

00:58:26.000 It's uh it's a rough movie.

00:58:28.000 It's about uh this boxer who who dies, John Voigt dies, and his kid is trying to get him to wake up.

00:58:35.000 He's like, Wake up, champ.

00:58:36.000 He died in the ring.

00:58:39.000 But but it's like crazy.

00:58:41.000 He's crying.

00:58:42.000 You're like, oh my God.

00:58:44.000 It seems so real.

00:58:46.000 How old is the kid?

00:58:48.000 I don't know how old Ricky Schroeder was.

00:58:51.000 But he's a kid.

00:58:52.000 Like nine or something like that.

00:58:54.000 So imagine being nine, like knowing how to cry on cue.

00:58:56.000 Crazy.

00:58:58.000 Right?

00:58:58.000 Like, where are you?

00:58:59.000 Yeah.

00:58:59.000 I know.

00:59:00.000 Accessing that emotional depth.

00:59:02.000 He did that, and then he did silver spoons.

00:59:04.000 He had this TV show.

00:59:06.000 He did like and you know seven.

00:59:08.000 He was seven.

00:59:08.000 Yeah.

00:59:09.000 God damn.

00:59:10.000 Seven.

00:59:11.000 Yeah, it's a it's a fine line because you see some of these parents, not like a stage parent, like Yeah, there he is right there.

00:59:17.000 Even like uh It's so sad.

00:59:20.000 You know, the uh you know the guy who drives for for a Red Bull, Max Verstappen.

00:59:25.000 Yeah, he read his name, yeah.

00:59:26.000 Widely while he's like considered the best driver right now.

00:59:30.000 Like despite maybe the car not being elite, he's so elite that he can compete with maybe better cars on the track.

00:59:35.000 And he's already won a bunch of championships, etc.

00:59:37.000 But like I think his dad was also a driver, and apparently, like his dad cultivated a next champion.

00:59:44.000 And like that was the goal.

00:59:45.000 Tiger Woodsdom.

00:59:46.000 And but the the thing right there is like your kid is gonna be born with certain things, and you can if they have that like ambition, that hunger, and that resilience, you can give them some tough love and maybe make a champion out of them.

01:00:01.000 But some of them don't.

01:00:03.000 And I think that you could break a kid like that too.

01:00:06.000 That's the tricky thing I always think with with you know, my daughter is like, and any future kids is I don't I don't know if I I don't I don't have that at this point in my life, I don't have that.

01:00:16.000 I need to make you into something.

01:00:18.000 You shouldn't.

01:00:18.000 I I just you gotta let them be themselves.

01:00:21.000 Because they all are gonna have the the worst thing is like say if you have a kid and you love baseball and you force your fucking kid to play baseball.

01:00:21.000 Yeah.

01:00:28.000 You gotta go to baseball practice, and you force your kid to play professionally.

01:00:32.000 Yep.

01:00:33.000 You know, I was lucky I was ambitious, and I had parents that just supported the things that I was ambitious about.

01:00:38.000 So if I wanted to hoop, they were like, all right, let's go play bad.

01:00:41.000 And my dad was like, let's go every single day, whatever you want to do.

01:00:43.000 Like, let's go.

01:00:44.000 But I never felt this like this stage mom or dad presence where they were they were going, Hey, you missed four shots today.

01:00:51.000 Let's review those shots that you missed, and let's figure out ways that you can't do it.

01:00:54.000 Right.

01:00:54.000 Like kind of let me have that on my own.

01:00:56.000 Yeah.

01:00:56.000 I don't need you to insert your ambition into me.

01:00:59.000 I feel like that's kind of selfish in a lot of ways.

01:01:01.000 It is, and it's also it's like you gotta know when the line is like maybe they do want advice.

01:01:07.000 Like maybe they are trying to get better at this thing.

01:01:09.000 But you have to have the kind of communication with your kid like, do you do you want some help?

01:01:13.000 Let me help you?

01:01:14.000 Yeah.

01:01:15.000 You know, like like I can I can give you some information.

01:01:18.000 Like say if your kid wanted to do like if your kid wanted to do stand-up, yeah.

01:01:21.000 And your kids start doing stand-up, and you know, they're bombing, and you're like, um, do you want me to talk to you?

01:01:28.000 Do you want to talk to you?

01:01:28.000 Yeah.

01:01:29.000 You want to just work this out on your own?

01:01:30.000 Like, you have to have that kind of open level of communication with your kids where they can tell you, like, hey, just leave me the fuck alone right now.

01:01:37.000 Yeah.

01:01:37.000 Okay.

01:01:39.000 I know you bombed, you know, it sucks.

01:01:41.000 I can tell you about my bombs.

01:01:41.000 Yeah.

01:01:42.000 I bombed a lot.

01:01:43.000 I'll tell you what what I learned.

01:01:43.000 Yeah.

01:01:45.000 I got better after the bombing.

01:01:46.000 Like it's like a it sucks, but it's actually good for you.

01:01:49.000 So you're delicate with your kids.

01:01:50.000 Yeah, you have to be.

01:01:51.000 I have daughters.

01:01:52.000 You know, if I had a son, I'd beat the shit out of him.

01:01:52.000 Yeah.

01:01:56.000 Take him in Jiu Jitsu.

01:01:57.000 Make sure that he knows I can kill him with my berries.

01:02:00.000 God, you got a daughters, bro.

01:02:02.000 Maybe we needed Rogan to have that.

01:02:04.000 Maybe that's your destiny, man.

01:02:05.000 Maybe that's softened you up a little bit.

01:02:07.000 It definitely does.

01:02:08.000 Um, it just lets you understand that they're so different.

01:02:11.000 The the way they are, they're so different.

01:02:13.000 Like my friends that have sons, they come home, the people are lighting things on fire, they're picking the cat up by its tail.

01:02:19.000 Like there's there's all these people who don't have kids that have all these opinions about gender and like what you're born as and all this other stuff.

01:02:24.000 And I don't need to get into the whole gender discussion, but like I see the way that slightly older girls play with my daughter. 1.00

01:02:30.000 So like my daughter's you know, a little over you're 20 months, right?

01:02:34.000 So the three-year-olds and four-year-olds that play with her, they're already kind of like mothering.

01:02:40.000 Right.

01:02:40.000 They're like patient with her, they're delicate, they'll want to give her a toy if she wants to give it back, they're fine.

01:02:46.000 It's just like this amazing thing.

01:02:47.000 That like, I don't know how maybe they're watching their mom do it to them, etc., but the boys don't give a fuck.

01:02:54.000 And older boys will convince younger boys to jump off the top bunk.

01:02:54.000 Right.

01:02:57.000 In a second.

01:02:58.000 Yeah.

01:02:58.000 In a second.

01:02:59.000 My boy Jason got uh two kids, both boys, and like you could tell if we weren't there, the older kid is gonna throw the the younger kid wherever the hell he wants to throw.

01:02:59.000 Yeah.

01:03:07.000 Yeah.

01:03:08.000 Like we gotta constantly monitor.

01:03:09.000 Yeah.

01:03:10.000 You know?

01:03:11.000 And that's something baked in.

01:03:12.000 Yeah.

01:03:13.000 Baked in.

01:03:14.000 Yeah, they're like dogs.

01:03:14.000 Yeah.

01:03:15.000 Yeah.

01:03:16.000 Hey, hey, hey.

01:03:17.000 That might be generous.

01:03:18.000 Yeah.

01:03:19.000 Even dogs would be nice with babies.

01:03:21.000 Well, they're probably okay with babies, but as soon as you can start walking, you're on your own.

01:03:21.000 Yeah, they're not.

01:03:25.000 Yeah, and if they trip you.

01:03:27.000 It's if if it's a five-year-old to a two-year-old, uh, maybe, but once you get to be three and four, fuck you.

01:03:33.000 And you know, it's also this understanding that you keep getting bigger, and like as like as time goes on, like the younger ones, like if someone's picking on you, you can pick on someone younger than you, and like there's a especially if you're like four brothers, like the toughest brother's always the youngest brother.

01:03:49.000 Like if there's a bunch of fighters, yeah.

01:03:51.000 If there's a bunch of fighters and he has three older brothers, did John have three older brothers?

01:03:56.000 No.

01:03:58.000 I think is the middle.

01:04:00.000 I think Arthur is the oldest.

01:04:04.000 Rest in peace.

01:04:04.000 Yeah.

01:04:05.000 And then John, and then Chandler's younger, right?

01:04:08.000 Is that correct?

01:04:10.000 No.

01:04:10.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:04:10.000 Chandler's younger.

01:04:11.000 Chandler's the youngest.

01:04:12.000 But big boys.

01:04:14.000 Here's the thing.

01:04:15.000 John's the only one who became a legit fighter, but Chandler was always like, I'll fuck John up.

01:04:21.000 Like he said it publicly.

01:04:22.000 Like, that's how they grow up.

01:04:24.000 Like you grow up in a household with two super athletes as brothers.

01:04:29.000 I I just I d I have empathy for their dad.

01:04:31.000 Like, imagine trying to discipline those three guys when they're like 16.

01:04:36.000 Right.

01:04:36.000 Good luck.

01:04:37.000 Good luck.

01:04:38.000 I sat next to them when we were at the uh six five two sixty.

01:04:41.000 No, no, no.

01:04:44.000 It's different.

01:04:45.000 And their mo their grandmother is John told me is where the genetics come from.

01:04:49.000 Oh, really?

01:04:50.000 He goes, This is my grandma.

01:04:51.000 And he introduced his grandma.

01:04:52.000 I'm like, yo, his grandmother's big.

01:04:55.000 She's big, man.

01:04:57.000 Big lady. 1.00

01:04:59.000 Yeah, we sat next to them at the uh at the sphere fight.

01:05:02.000 Ah.

01:05:03.000 And they're all having the best time.

01:05:04.000 They're just like, Yeah, John's always having a good time.

01:05:06.000 Like he's wearing cowboy hats now.

01:05:08.000 He's leaning on going, dude.

01:05:09.000 Dude, he's so funny.

01:05:10.000 He's the sheriff.

01:05:12.000 It's funny how he like he's like, you know, they were trying to pressure him to fight Tom Aspetall.

01:05:16.000 Is he gonna fight?

01:05:17.000 Like, what's the deal?

01:05:18.000 Who knows?

01:05:19.000 That's part of the fun.

01:05:20.000 I feel like you know.

01:05:20.000 He's d he's doing what a pool hustler is.

01:05:22.000 That's what I'm about to say.

01:05:23.000 Oh, that's doing it.

01:05:24.000 Like I guarantee you, if John really thinks that he's fighting in June, he's already in camp.

01:05:29.000 Oh, so he's making it seem like he's not potentially.

01:05:32.000 I would imagine that John is preparing.

01:05:34.000 Because so like John has different places to train.

01:05:37.000 You know, he doesn't just train at one place.

01:05:38.000 Yeah.

01:05:38.000 But I could imagine he does a lot of weightlifting too.

01:05:41.000 He got a lot of put on a lot of like real muscle mass when he went up to heavyweight.

01:05:46.000 If John really thinks he's gonna fight uh Alex Pereira, he's getting ready.

01:05:50.000 He's at least getting ready in his mind.

01:05:50.000 Yeah.

01:05:52.000 Would it be Alex or do you think it would be Alex?

01:05:54.000 Really?

01:05:55.000 So not so the Tom ship has sailed.

01:05:57.000 The big no, it hasn't sailed, but the big money fight is Alex and John Jones at the White House.

01:06:04.000 Are you fucking kidding me?

01:06:06.000 Catch weight.

01:06:06.000 Yeah.

01:06:07.000 Make it 225.

01:06:09.000 You know, Alex still is the light heavyweight champion.

01:06:11.000 Make it a catch weight fight.

01:06:12.000 You don't have to be for a title.

01:06:14.000 Make it the bad motherfucker upper edition.

01:06:17.000 You know, you have the BMF belt for 155ers.

01:06:21.000 Who's the real BMF?

01:06:22.000 You know, do you think he's one of those guys could beat Alex Pereira?

01:06:22.000 Yeah.

01:06:25.000 You think he'd get 155 pounder in there against Alex Pereira?

01:06:29.000 Does Max Holloway survive against Alex Pereira?

01:06:31.000 Max's the bad motherfucker.

01:06:31.000 No, shut the fuck up.

01:06:34.000 That's the only heavyweight.

01:06:36.000 We need we need to do a f like he see it drop you on your fucking head, man.

01:06:40.000 You don't want to wrestle that dude.

01:06:41.000 Never but like it's funny about that.

01:06:44.000 He's like the kindest, sweetest guy.

01:06:47.000 And he's an animal, a full animal when he fights.

01:06:50.000 That'd be a wild thing, man.

01:06:51.000 That'd be a wild thing.

01:06:53.000 The John Jones Alex Pereira fight would probably be the biggest fight in human history.

01:06:57.000 I mean, that's the White House.

01:07:00.000 In M M M, but in as a matchup, you got the greatest of all time in John Jones.

01:07:05.000 Yeah.

01:07:05.000 And arguably the most destructive striker that's ever competed.

01:07:10.000 No one's like that guy.

01:07:10.000 Yeah.

01:07:11.000 That Pulitzon? 1.00

01:07:12.000 That Ankalaya fight. 0.96

01:07:14.000 He was like, fuck you.

01:07:15.000 Dude, I I it it was such a and again, I don't know what's going through Uncle Ives' head at this moment, right?

01:07:20.000 But I know what I'm thinking.

01:07:22.000 I'm like, if I'm Uncle If it's like I outstruck this guy in the first time that they fought.

01:07:27.000 He's gonna be cautious.

01:07:29.000 Yeah.

01:07:29.000 And I'm gonna be able to walk him down.

01:07:30.000 And I remember the second the bell rings, he runs right at him, and he throws like maybe like a one-two one, and I think the the right is to the body.

01:07:38.000 And you could see Uncle Ive go, Whoa, I did not expect the first five seconds of this fight to go this way.

01:07:42.000 He came out hot and close distance real quick.

01:07:44.000 Immediately.

01:07:45.000 And it was a great, like, it's it's a testament to like um somebody had said this before, especially in MMA.

01:07:50.000 It's like when somebody gets not nervous or but or like when you shake somebody out of their like natural instinct, they revert back to what they're most comfortable doing.

01:07:59.000 So it's like if you're like a wrestling guy your whole life and then you learn how to strike, the second something goes a little bit, you know, out of whack, you're gonna revert back to your wrestling.

01:08:07.000 I think it might have been DC this time.

01:08:08.000 I forget exactly who was they saying, but like you revert back to what you're most comfortable with.

01:08:11.000 DC said it, right?

01:08:12.000 Yeah.

01:08:13.000 Okay.

01:08:13.000 And um but I thought the most interesting thing about that fight is the punch that Pereira lands that stuns him is this looping right.

01:08:22.000 Nobody's training for Perez right.

01:08:24.000 Right.

01:08:25.000 Well, that's what he threw right away.

01:08:26.000 That was the first punch.

01:08:27.000 It was a straight ride.

01:08:28.000 But he went to the body.

01:08:29.000 Yeah, it was long.

01:08:30.000 This is long straight right he started off the fight with.

01:08:34.000 But when he lands this like looping right there.

01:08:37.000 It's not that one, it's a little bit after that.

01:08:39.000 So what he did is he set him up and then got his foot in proper position where he could step inside of him, and Ancalayev was ready for one thing, and Pereira, watch this.

01:08:51.000 If you see where he sets it up, a guy did a really good breakdown of it.

01:08:55.000 I'll watch it again.

01:08:56.000 He broke his foot there, right there.

01:08:58.000 Yeah.

01:08:59.000 That kick, he hit the shin and he broke his toe.

01:09:04.000 Yeah, I think he gets Uncle Ab to switch stances for the five.

01:09:08.000 Well, he's just putting mad pressure on him.

01:09:09.000 He's putting mad pressure on him.

01:09:11.000 So you don't see from the switch too often.

01:09:11.000 Yeah.

01:09:13.000 Yeah.

01:09:15.000 And it's time.

01:09:17.000 And he just dips in and drops a fucking hammer on him.

01:09:23.000 Here it is.

01:09:25.000 Boom.

01:09:26.000 So he left.

01:09:28.000 Ankalaev started moving to the right to uh Pereira's right when he put pressure on him.

01:09:34.000 And that's why in because everybody's scared of the left.

01:09:37.000 The movement with Pereira is don't ever walk to your right, because that's walking into his left hook.

01:09:43.000 Circle away.

01:09:43.000 So circle away.

01:09:44.000 So their idea was we're gonna circle away, and Pereira's like, I bet you're gonna circle away.

01:09:48.000 Yeah.

01:09:48.000 And he just stomped him.

01:09:50.000 And this You could tell he enjoyed it.

01:09:53.000 Because he was sick.

01:09:53.000 Yeah.

01:09:55.000 The first fight, he was sick.

01:09:57.000 He was 100% sick.

01:09:59.000 He was sick as a dog the entire camp.

01:10:01.000 Huh.

01:10:02.000 I didn't know that.

01:10:03.000 But I also told told me after the fight.

01:10:05.000 Really?

01:10:06.000 Like after he just knocked out Uncle Ivy goes, let me tell you something.

01:10:08.000 First camp, he was so sick, bro.

01:10:10.000 He was so sick, like he he he could barely eat.

01:10:13.000 He I think it's like a lot of things.

01:10:13.000 Really?

01:10:13.000 Yeah.

01:10:16.000 But I think it's norovirus.

01:10:17.000 I think that's a good thing.

01:10:18.000 Yeah, that was going around.

01:10:19.000 And he also fucked up his hand.

01:10:20.000 He had a really badly hurt left hand.

01:10:22.000 And that's the that's the moneymaker.

01:10:24.000 And then when you see this, you're like, that's what you get when you get a fully in shape and healthy Alex.

01:10:29.000 You get stomped.

01:10:30.000 Yeah.

01:10:30.000 But these guys are never fully healthy.

01:10:32.000 Like any time I was just talking to uh I believe his name is Paul Hughes.

01:10:36.000 Do you know him?

01:10:36.000 He just fought uh it's PFL.

01:10:39.000 He fought a guy.

01:10:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:41.000 I think he fought uh Usman.

01:10:44.000 Usman uh and uh for the second time.

01:10:48.000 The first fight was like contested, it was a close fight in the second.

01:10:51.000 Yeah, if you're a ner m Nermadoff, if you're like you know, you're in the Khib camp. 1.00

01:10:56.000 Yeah, I mean, come on, some yeah.

01:10:57.000 Yeah, it's real it's real shit.

01:10:59.000 But the first carry that last name around, it's there's a lot of responsibility.

01:11:02.000 Kabib Nummer Gomedoff might be like the greatest name in the history of like grappling MMA fighting.

01:11:09.000 Yeah, like you you've got Kabib's last name.

01:11:12.000 Yeah.

01:11:13.000 Yeah, if you saw that on a lineup in a jiu-jitsu tournament or something, you'd be like, Nermagomedoff. 0.62

01:11:21.000 You like you would just have a thousand yard stale, like fuck. 0.89

01:11:24.000 Anyway, like you fought him again, and like you know, he was like, Yeah, I was dealing with a bunch of you know, some I was dealing with some stuff in campus, but I don't want to make excuses because we're always dealing with some stuff.

01:11:32.000 He was like he was like, he's probably dealing with stuff, like that guy.

01:11:36.000 I mean, it was it was a close fight, but I thought that uh he came out to the show in Dubai and I was like, and he was like uh and he was like he's like, Yeah, he's just like really good.

01:11:45.000 He's just like a really good guy, and I thought that I could get him.

01:11:47.000 I think I still can, maybe it happens one day in the future.

01:11:50.000 But I was this honest approach where where he was basically saying, We're always a little injured.

01:11:54.000 We're fighters, like naturally in training camp, you're gonna hurt something, you're gonna tweak something.

01:11:59.000 Now, granted, you got fucking neurovirus, this is a little bit different than like your you know shoulder sore.

01:12:03.000 Right.

01:12:04.000 But like everybody's dealing with a little shit.

01:12:06.000 100%.

01:12:06.000 Look at Connor.

01:12:07.000 He came into that fight with Dustin Porya with a broken shin already.

01:12:11.000 Didn't give a fuck.

01:12:12.000 Well, he just thought it's not that broken.

01:12:14.000 Yeah.

01:12:15.000 He's like, dude, Connor is like reaching final form, like as a promoter.

01:12:19.000 It's like he's already so prolific, obviously as a fighter, etc.

01:12:23.000 But like watching him do the BKFC.

01:12:25.000 I kind of just want to go to see him hype up fights.

01:12:28.000 Like I want to go to the press conference where he's just like, what was he saying?

01:12:31.000 He's like, and if you don't win, we're firing you on the spot to Mike Perry.

01:12:35.000 And Mike's like, what did I what why why what I do?

01:12:37.000 I'm just gonna punch in the face.

01:12:39.000 He's like chest bumping the guys who were fighting.

01:12:43.000 He's not even fighting.

01:12:45.000 It's like Dana calling out the guy.

01:12:47.000 Yeah, what is he doing?

01:12:49.000 What are you doing?

01:12:49.000 But is that a table?

01:12:50.000 I want to watch one of them BKFC.

01:12:52.000 And I want to know if it's real or if he's really on the most potent Bolivian marching powder.

01:12:57.000 Oh, like the purest of the pure.

01:13:00.000 Whatever he's on, I need to try it.

01:13:02.000 Or is it an act?

01:13:03.000 I mean, maybe he's just duping us all.

01:13:05.000 What is he saying here?

01:13:10.000 Some of the baddest men and women to ever grace, planet Earth. 1.00

01:13:15.000 This is what we're about here at Brand Local Fighting Championship.

01:13:18.000 The alien of combat sport.

01:13:21.000 And then we rise above the night sky and rain down blows viciously on all our deniers.

01:13:29.000 And announcing it today that brand Nokan FC has no love for the big glove.

01:13:35.000 So let's go for them.

01:13:38.000 And that's announced.

01:13:41.000 Let me have a chance.

01:13:41.000 Hold on.

01:13:42.000 No love for the things.

01:13:44.000 We gotta give you the greatest promoter of all.

01:13:46.000 Like, we gotta I know a lot of people do coke, and they're not that entertaining.

01:13:46.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:13:50.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:13:51.000 That's that's charisma.

01:13:52.000 You gotta have something in you for the coke to bring it out.

01:13:54.000 That's why they won't let him run for president in Ireland.

01:13:56.000 Because it'd be a big thing.

01:13:57.000 That motherfucker will win. 0.99

01:13:58.000 Imagine that.

01:13:59.000 That kind of speech in Ireland.

01:14:02.000 Bro, he could be the he could be the president of Ireland tomorrow.

01:14:05.000 Bro, if he wanted to be the president of Ireland, if they let him, you could let him go on the campaign tour.

01:14:10.000 Let him talk like that in front of packed arenas.

01:14:10.000 Yeah.

01:14:13.000 Yeah.

01:14:14.000 It's all for come on our podcast, Connor.

01:14:16.000 We'll make it happen.

01:14:17.000 Bro, who else?

01:14:18.000 We control the election, just the three of us.

01:14:18.000 Yeah.

01:14:20.000 We're the king, man.

01:14:21.000 That's it, dog.

01:14:22.000 We need to charge more for ads.

01:14:23.000 We need to charge more for ads since we could decide the fate of the free world.

01:14:27.000 Only us, nothing else happening.

01:14:30.000 He's like, anything bad happens, it's our fault.

01:14:30.000 You know what's funny?

01:14:32.000 And then like Trump will like stop a war in the Middle East, and nobody's going.

01:14:36.000 Thank you, Schultz.

01:14:36.000 Thank you, Joe.

01:14:37.000 Thank you, Theo.

01:14:39.000 Do you think he's stopped?

01:14:41.000 I think that's a fighter stoppage.

01:14:43.000 I think that uh I think that he stopped.

01:14:48.000 I think he stopped what Israel is doing to Gaza for the time being.

01:14:51.000 And he got hostages back.

01:14:53.000 He got hostages back.

01:14:54.000 So it's like but the way I look at it is like I think that you need to give him credit.

01:15:00.000 And I I like calling balls and strikes, bro.

01:15:02.000 If he does something I don't like, I'm gonna call it out, and then people get upset at that shit for some reason.

01:15:06.000 They're like, oh well, but how did you not know this was gonna happen?

01:15:08.000 It's like, oh my god.

01:15:09.000 Do we not do we not understand that when you vote for somebody they're gonna do some things that you don't like and they're gonna do some things that you do?

01:15:15.000 Like again, there's no nuance on the internet, but like I don't think that this is what BB Netanyahu wanted.

01:15:23.000 I don't think that and I think it's what Trump wanted.

01:15:26.000 I think Trump went, I want to stop it.

01:15:28.000 And you could make arguments for that, like, oh, he wants to get the Noble Peace Prize or whatever the fuck you want to say, but like he wanted it.

01:15:35.000 And he created a situation where BB was dependent on him.

01:15:39.000 Trump's more popular in Israel than BB.

01:15:41.000 And if BB wants re-election, he's gotta play nice with Trump.

01:15:44.000 100%.

01:15:44.000 Really?

01:15:45.000 Trump is more popular in Israel than Netanyahu?

01:15:48.000 100%.

01:15:49.000 There was an article in the New Yorker that just said about this.

01:15:49.000 Whoa.

01:15:51.000 It's like BB.

01:15:52.000 I know, I know.

01:15:53.000 But like, but like BB's political future is dependent on Trump.

01:15:56.000 Wow.

01:15:57.000 100%.

01:15:58.000 So it's like that's crazy.

01:15:59.000 They created a situation, and then he just went around everybody.

01:16:02.000 Like, it's almost like he's better at government over there where you're dealing with dictators.

01:16:07.000 Uh because he could just say, What do you want?

01:16:09.000 And then they go, uh, like uh some some planes.

01:16:13.000 He goes, All right, we got planes, I'll give you some planes.

01:16:14.000 All right, you do this for me.

01:16:16.000 It's that transactional, and it works on the global stage in that regard.

01:16:20.000 They gotta stop.

01:16:20.000 Now, granted, it's a deal between Trump, BB, and Hamas.

01:16:24.000 It could go wrong.

01:16:25.000 Right.

01:16:26.000 But it seems to me the only person that got what they wanted out of it.

01:16:30.000 It's not what Hamas wanted.

01:16:32.000 It's not what Bibi wanted, and BB's folks in government. 1.00

01:16:35.000 It's what Trump wanted.

01:16:37.000 So I'm like, you gotta give credit to where you know credit is due, in my personal opinion.

01:16:40.000 It's like he doesn't he wasn't want any more bloodshed.

01:16:43.000 He wants to say that he stopped this thing.

01:16:45.000 Let him rally off some dubs.

01:16:46.000 You see Israel bombed Lebanon today.

01:16:49.000 Well, you gotta stop that one.

01:16:51.000 Yeah.

01:16:52.000 They did where they bombed uh weapons depot.

01:16:55.000 Crazy fireball.

01:16:57.000 Oh my goodness.

01:16:58.000 Alright, well, we gotta put a stop to all that shit.

01:17:01.000 Um this was uh what is what a what did they say anything about the target, Jamie?

01:17:06.000 You just see it.

01:17:07.000 You should see the video, it's nuts because it's the munitions place.

01:17:10.000 Oh, so you get the X rays.

01:17:12.000 Bro, look at that.

01:17:13.000 Yeah, that's Michael Bay.

01:17:18.000 Yeah, and there's a bunch of secondary um explosions on the ground, right?

01:17:23.000 So those secondary explosions or all the munitions going off.

01:17:27.000 Hezbollah.

01:17:28.000 Yeah.

01:17:29.000 Um incident marked the latest strikes and almost unbroken pattern of daily Israel attacks on Lebanese territories since the ceasefire deal was struck in November of 2024.

01:17:39.000 After more than a year, fierce hostilities accumulated in two months of open war.

01:17:43.000 Yeah.

01:17:44.000 Oh yeah, man.

01:17:47.000 Bro, anyway.

01:17:49.000 It's like your little brother that keeps dragging you into fights.

01:17:51.000 It's like, bro, come on.

01:17:53.000 Right?

01:17:54.000 Like, who we beefing with?

01:17:55.000 What are we doing?

01:17:56.000 Yeah.

01:17:57.000 But also, as well.

01:17:58.000 You really don't want them having all those weapons either.

01:18:00.000 I don't really know, to be honest with you.

01:18:02.000 But like I do think that we're allowed to have an opinion on it.

01:18:05.000 There's this idea like we're not allowed to have any.

01:18:06.000 It's like we're funding shit, we get an opinion on it.

01:18:08.000 Feeling the simple idea that we shouldn't have an opinion is ridiculous.

01:18:10.000 You should always have opinions.

01:18:11.000 Your opinions could be uninformed, they're still your opinions.

01:18:14.000 Like, you're allowed to have opinions.

01:18:16.000 You're allowed to have the dumbest fucking opinion in the world.

01:18:18.000 And other people go, That's a really dumb opinion.

01:18:20.000 Yeah.

01:18:20.000 Yeah, you're allowed to have opinions.

01:18:21.000 Yeah.

01:18:22.000 This idea that you shouldn't talk about opinions, like, shut the fuck up.

01:18:25.000 Yeah, this is the whole point.

01:18:26.000 This is why we get to say whatever the fuck we want.

01:18:27.000 Well, it's like us and Saudi Arabia.

01:18:31.000 Yeah.

01:18:32.000 It's just it's just us in Saudi Arabia, by the way.

01:18:36.000 We're the uh we're the best ones, by the way.

01:18:38.000 Yeah.

01:18:38.000 Yes.

01:18:39.000 What was that experience like going over there?

01:18:41.000 Man, it was so it's like I've performed in the Middle East before.

01:18:43.000 So like you've done a bunch of shows out there.

01:18:45.000 Yeah, like it's just not everybody make this big thing, like, oh my god, it's gonna be so crazy, blah, blah.

01:18:49.000 I posted my soldier, I like I posted my set.

01:18:51.000 Because people were saying all this shit, like, oh, I didn't change anything, and all these comics were doing it.

01:18:55.000 I'm like, all right, well, I'll show you.

01:18:56.000 This is what I did.

01:18:58.000 You tell me if I took it easy on him.

01:18:59.000 You tell me if I cared.

01:19:00.000 And Peel made all this fucking big deal about like, oh, they made you sign a list of things you can't say, and it's just like, do you really think the fucking king cares about the clowns coming to the festival?

01:19:10.000 Like, you think he really gives a fuck about that shit?

01:19:13.000 No.

01:19:14.000 Well, he would care if it was humiliating.

01:19:16.000 It's some middle guy who's like, I don't want to get in trouble. 1.00

01:19:18.000 So I'm gonna say they do that shit anywhere you go.

01:19:20.000 They did that shit when I was in UAE.

01:19:22.000 I didn't fucking look at it.

01:19:23.000 I'll never look at a list once in my life.

01:19:25.000 I'll perform wherever my fans are.

01:19:26.000 I don't give a fuck.

01:19:26.000 Like, that's my take on it.

01:19:28.000 It's like I'm gonna perform wherever my fans are.

01:19:30.000 I don't give a fuck what their government's do.

01:19:31.000 I'm gonna perform for my fans.

01:19:32.000 Simple as that.

01:19:33.000 I just happen to have fans over there.

01:19:33.000 That's what it is.

01:19:35.000 There are a lot of guys who like can't perform outside of Brooklyn who are like, I would never go.

01:19:38.000 It's like, well, no one was asking you.

01:19:39.000 Right.

01:19:40.000 No one's inviting you.

01:19:41.000 Yeah.

01:19:42.000 You also don't have to.

01:19:44.000 Right.

01:19:44.000 But it might be different if you got like tons of DMs of people going, please come out here.

01:19:48.000 We've been watching your special, we've been doing all these things.

01:19:50.000 You're like, oh, that'd be really awesome to come perform for you guys.

01:19:53.000 Yeah, but the idea is you're being paid by a dictator.

01:19:55.000 It's good.

01:19:56.000 My fans get a discount.

01:19:58.000 It's not like they didn't, it's not like they didn't have to pay for the tickets.

01:20:02.000 Like there's just a little added on top from the family.

01:20:02.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:20:05.000 Yeah.

01:20:06.000 Yeah.

01:20:06.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:07.000 So it is what it is.

01:20:08.000 Bro, this comic out there said the funniest shit it's fucked up.

01:20:10.000 He said the funniest shit.

01:20:11.000 It's like, yeah, so what do you think about them, you know, you know, chopping up that journalist?

01:20:14.000 He goes, they chopped up one journalist so women can drive. 1.00

01:20:21.000 Oh no.

01:20:22.000 I was dying, bro.

01:20:24.000 How is that?

01:20:25.000 Bro, when we're out there, it was so funny.

01:20:27.000 That is true.

01:20:27.000 Like MBS, that's not true.

01:20:30.000 What you said, but yeah, it is true that MBS is the reason why.

01:20:34.000 The other guy, the MBM was the guy who was gonna be more conservative.

01:20:38.000 But yeah, so it's like it's uh it was so funny because like when we were out there, like that there are chicks driving now, obviously.

01:20:45.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:45.000 How were they doing?

01:20:46.000 Well, we got in one accident, two female drivers. 0.99

01:20:52.000 They're new at it.

01:20:53.000 Bro, that so it's like we got out the car and you could see the look on their faces, the parts of their faces you could see.

01:20:58.000 And uh and you get they're just like, damn, man, everybody's gonna know.

01:21:03.000 And it was uh, but it's funny they said um they get the girls all like Chinese cars, and I was like, why do you why do they drive the Chinese cars? 0.55

01:21:10.000 And they're like, it's the cheapest cars, they're just figuring the shit out.

01:21:15.000 Like imagine you're 50 and you just start driving tomorrow.

01:21:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:21:19.000 Like that's crazy.

01:21:20.000 No, they figure that shit out.

01:21:21.000 But yeah, it was fun, man.

01:21:22.000 I don't know, like, I don't even know if people care because like you see this shit online and like everybody feels like they need an opinion on it.

01:21:29.000 I even see comics going like a lot of people have been asking my opinion on it.

01:21:32.000 So like I need to give your fucking opinion.

01:21:34.000 Have they really been asking?

01:21:35.000 Like, what do you talk about?

01:21:36.000 Nobody's asking a fucking opinion.

01:21:37.000 It's almost to the point where and then I ask like any regular people, they're like, they don't really care because they're watching like the six best tennis guys perform in Saudi this weekend.

01:21:47.000 And golfers and racing.

01:21:49.000 And UFC and boxing and everything.

01:21:53.000 So it's just like, how much do you and they just put a billion dollars into uh like a Hollywood movie studio?

01:21:57.000 Uh oh.

01:21:58.000 So I'm I'm like, I'm screenshotting.

01:22:01.000 Everybody who talks, I'm screenshot because I'm waiting for you to do a movie with it.

01:22:05.000 I'm waiting.

01:22:06.000 I'm petty.

01:22:07.000 You forgive.

01:22:07.000 I don't forget.

01:22:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:09.000 You have somebody on your pod who had someone on their pod talking shit.

01:22:12.000 You're better than me.

01:22:14.000 Yeah.

01:22:14.000 You're better than me.

01:22:15.000 You gotta be able to just let things go.

01:22:17.000 I can't wait for Gavin Newsom to go on Bad Friends.

01:22:22.000 I can't I I I want to see the I'm distancing myself from the Rogan Sphere tour.

01:22:27.000 Uh, that's the first one.

01:22:27.000 First stop.

01:22:28.000 Bad friends.

01:22:29.000 That's hilarious.

01:22:30.000 I thought that was corny.

01:22:33.000 I thought it was corny.

01:22:33.000 Yeah.

01:22:35.000 Yeah, we talked about that.

01:22:37.000 Um I don't know.

01:22:38.000 It is what it is.

01:22:40.000 You were you're more forgiving.

01:22:41.000 There's no time that you should in my mind, no time that you should be spending on these kind of conflicts.

01:22:48.000 It's like pointless.

01:22:49.000 It's wasted energy.

01:22:50.000 Yeah, but it's fun to talk some shit.

01:22:52.000 Well, you know, when when I decided um to talk shit about Marin was after the Theo thing.

01:22:57.000 After Theo kind of went off the rails.

01:22:59.000 Yeah.

01:23:00.000 And Theo went off the rails right after Marin put him in his special.

01:23:04.000 Yeah.

01:23:05.000 You know.

01:23:05.000 You know my issue with that joke in the special?

01:23:07.000 It was just like what Twitter says.

01:23:10.000 Uh-huh.

01:23:10.000 It wasn't even like a creative angle.

01:23:13.000 It was just like literally what every tweet would say.

01:23:16.000 Meanwhile, it's one of the funniest jokes he's ever made because it's oppression of a really funny guy.

01:23:21.000 Exactly.

01:23:21.000 Yeah, you gotta rely on Theo's impression.

01:23:24.000 Yeah.

01:23:25.000 Yeah.

01:23:26.000 But yeah, I just I don't know.

01:23:27.000 Like my whole thing with Marin is like, I think that like people outside of comedy have this idea of him.

01:23:31.000 But like everybody inside comedy knows he's a piece of shit, and they've known it for years.

01:23:34.000 And like, this is not just like us.

01:23:37.000 No.

01:23:37.000 You know, like there's the I mean, there's that great like John Stewart story about their thing, which is like I don't even know what people know, but like John took that MTV show and Marin like ripped him for it.

01:23:47.000 Oh, you sell out you pieces, how dare you do it?

01:23:49.000 And then when John leaves to go do another show, guess who takes over that same show?

01:23:53.000 Marin.

01:23:55.000 That's who we're dealing with.

01:23:56.000 So it's like it's one of these things where like inside the game, we all know who the pieces of shit are, and we just go, ugh, we roll our eyes at that.

01:24:02.000 This is how Mark Marin works.

01:24:04.000 He sees you get successful, he feels bad, so he comes up with a reason why you're bad.

01:24:10.000 Exactly.

01:24:11.000 And he'll find some like intellectualization of it to justify his bitterness.

01:24:14.000 You want to know what he hit me with with Fear Factor?

01:24:17.000 What do you say?

01:24:17.000 You're taking jobs away from comedians who would be writing on sitcoms.

01:24:24.000 How how what?

01:24:24.000 How is I'm doing a lot of college show.

01:24:28.000 So the reality show, which is number one show in the country.

01:24:31.000 Yeah.

01:24:31.000 Would have would have if it didn't exist.

01:24:33.000 That was a Trump moment right there.

01:24:35.000 Number one!

01:24:36.000 It was the best.

01:24:39.000 But when the idea was that somehow or another this is stealing, it's a the dumbest justification.

01:24:46.000 He just answered the stuff.

01:24:47.000 You didn't look at it at all.

01:24:48.000 You didn't you didn't have any insight.

01:24:51.000 You didn't like step back and go, okay, let me reflect on this.

01:24:54.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:24:55.000 Because it doesn't make any sense because those people are doing a job outside of comedy.

01:24:59.000 Exactly.

01:24:59.000 Just like me.

01:24:59.000 I'm doing a job outside of comedy too.

01:25:01.000 But you can't even give it any credence.

01:25:03.000 It's like the guy every criticism he has, he's guilty of.

01:25:06.000 Like he's like, how dare you have presidents on the pod and have fun with them?

01:25:09.000 And it's like you had Obama before anybody.

01:25:11.000 You started this.

01:25:12.000 You didn't ask Obama anything about fucking drone strikes or whatever.

01:25:15.000 And frankly, and I love Obama.

01:25:17.000 I just want to point that out.

01:25:17.000 Like, I I actually really do.

01:25:18.000 And I know there's probably fucked up shit that anybody in power gotta do, but like I genuinely I liked him.

01:25:23.000 I love him as a statesman.

01:25:24.000 I think he was the best statesman we've ever had.

01:25:26.000 You just felt good.

01:25:27.000 Yes.

01:25:27.000 You just felt good.

01:25:28.000 We felt like he's a great representative of America.

01:25:30.000 100%.

01:25:31.000 As intelligent and measured as anybody who's ever held the office better than any like Clinton when he was young was really good.

01:25:39.000 I think Obama was another level.

01:25:40.000 Yes, so I think Obama was another level.

01:25:42.000 Anyway, so but it's like, yeah, you did it.

01:25:44.000 You did the thing.

01:25:44.000 You did the exact same thing.

01:25:46.000 Talk all this shit about like, oh, yeah.

01:25:48.000 We just had him on recently.

01:25:49.000 He didn't ask him anything.

01:25:50.000 Of course he did.

01:25:51.000 Anything like would would you have repealed the Smith Munt Act.

01:25:56.000 But is it the consequences of it?

01:25:58.000 No, nothing.

01:25:59.000 Because we know, because we're inside.

01:25:59.000 Of course not.

01:26:01.000 Well, this is the thing.

01:26:02.000 He like positions himself as this intellectual, but he doesn't say anything interesting.

01:26:06.000 Yeah.

01:26:07.000 There's nothing that guy ever says where I'm like, wow, that's a unique insight.

01:26:11.000 That's a thing.

01:26:12.000 Fucking never.

01:26:12.000 It's childish with a good vocabulary.

01:26:15.000 No, I think he's a thing he's a smart guy.

01:26:17.000 I think he's probably smarter than he is funny.

01:26:19.000 I think that drives him crazy.

01:26:20.000 Yeah, but he's also too obsessed with himself to be reflective enough to understand like why other people don't like him.

01:26:27.000 Wait, you're saying the guy who talks by himself for five minutes before the president comes on?

01:26:32.000 15 minutes.

01:26:33.000 If there wasn't for Fast Forward, there would be no Marin podcast.

01:26:36.000 Yeah.

01:26:36.000 And that was a good one.

01:26:38.000 Exactly.

01:26:39.000 Just the rant.

01:26:40.000 Imagine But anyway, so it's just like The Rant is what killed the show, by the way.

01:26:44.000 If he didn't have the rant, he probably wouldn't be like bottom two hundred.

01:26:48.000 I think I think better shows came out.

01:26:50.000 And it's just like that's just the nature of the thing.

01:26:56.000 So I don't know.

01:26:57.000 My my whole feeling about it is just like we know, like we know who the pieces of shit are in our industry.

01:27:01.000 Right.

01:27:02.000 And like we're aware of it because we've seen them from the jump.

01:27:05.000 Like if if I'm sitting down with a comedian, right?

01:27:06.000 And like this is why I don't fuck with a lot of them.

01:27:08.000 Is like if you immediately start talking shit about your co-host to me when I'm sitting down with you, like I I gotta start questioning your integrity a little bit.

01:27:17.000 It's like that's your boy.

01:27:18.000 Like why are you shit talking your boy to me?

01:27:21.000 So it's yeah, but you saw this.

01:27:21.000 Right.

01:27:23.000 A lot of these guys, man, you saw it.

01:27:25.000 You saw a lot of these guys.

01:27:26.000 You saw and they and it's and it's like I think a lot of this is just salvation, to be honest with you.

01:27:32.000 It's like they see an internet trend, and I think that like right now there's this internet trend, oh, the fucking manosphere, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:27:32.000 Yeah.

01:27:39.000 And I think I see guys who you were very generous to, like you lent your platform, your millions of followers, the biggest show on the planet, help them make tons of money, help them really have success, build their own platforms.

01:27:52.000 And now they see like an internet trend about like the manosphere or whatever.

01:27:56.000 And I see guys like trying to create a little separation.

01:27:59.000 I see all of a sudden it's like, yeah, you you you use this guy to make millions of dollars and get all these fans, and now you see online outrage and you're like, oh no, that's them, that's not me.

01:28:07.000 It's like you had no problem being part of the Avengers.

01:28:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:28:11.000 You had no problem being in the photos, you had no problem before, and now you see a little shit going on, you separate.

01:28:17.000 I feel like that's the moment you double down for your boy.

01:28:20.000 That's the moment you go, I know that person.

01:28:22.000 What people are saying about him isn't real, and you refute that.

01:28:26.000 That's what I would do.

01:28:27.000 I mean, whatever.

01:28:28.000 There's a lot of cowards out there in the world.

01:28:30.000 And it's just they're scared.

01:28:32.000 They're scared, and this is like a time of real attacks.

01:28:37.000 Like in the past, like, say in the nineties or something like that, if you supported Andrew Dice Clay or something like that, like you didn't really get any heat.

01:28:44.000 Nobody cared.

01:28:45.000 You could do an interview and you're like, I think Dice is hilarious.

01:28:48.000 You wouldn't like lose sponsors, you wouldn't nothing would happen.

01:28:52.000 But now there'll be like an organized campaign to try to take you out.

01:28:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:28:55.000 With bots.

01:28:56.000 Like people don't even think the bots thing are.

01:28:56.000 Yeah.

01:28:58.000 Well, you pay for it.

01:28:59.000 You can hire them.

01:29:00.000 And why and there's other countries that are involved in that shit too.

01:29:03.000 Not to be like it's not even conspiratorial, but like I think a little bit that's what the comedy festival, the Riyadh thing was a little bit.

01:29:08.000 Probably.

01:29:09.000 Because it was so peculiar.

01:29:10.000 It's like they're so they're already so entrenched into like our entertainment, and then all of a sudden we went out.

01:29:15.000 And I think sometimes something gets a little bit of buzz, and then people, you know, send the bots to create a little friction or separation.

01:29:22.000 And then people hop on board.

01:29:23.000 Exactly.

01:29:25.000 They have to because they see their views there.

01:29:26.000 I had Palmer Lucky on the podcast yesterday.

01:29:29.000 And he was discussing that.

01:29:30.000 He was just discussing these like organized campaigns affecting people's minds.

01:29:34.000 Well, it's just that this is part of like what China does to keep us at each other's throats. 0.98

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:40.000 It's it's literally a strategy.

01:29:41.000 And people are so stupid that they're gonna let a 30-second TikTok dictate their opinions about the world.

01:29:47.000 Like they're not fact checking, they're not doing anything about it.

01:29:50.000 Like and these there are people that like consider themselves journalists that will do it.

01:29:54.000 100%.

01:29:55.000 Like there's this this little Nepo baby, uh, he's like uh Kennedy's grandkid or some shit like that. 0.99

01:30:00.000 That was like talking all the shit about it.

01:30:01.000 One thing he said is that like because I called him a Neppo baby because he never had a job.

01:30:05.000 I don't care if your dad is, but if you never had a real job, like you know, like what the f why are you telling people who have real jobs what to do and how they should vote and what they should do with their lives.

01:30:13.000 Like you don't know how much the electrical child.

01:30:16.000 And then he goes, Oh, Schultz is uh uh you know married into the Turner dynasty.

01:30:22.000 Like my my wife's made a name is Turner He thinks that my wife's family is like Turner, Ted Turner.

01:30:29.000 Like this is a guy who his job is journalist.

01:30:35.000 He calls himself a journal and he couldn't even do the bare minimum rig.

01:30:39.000 He saw another TikTok that says something that's completely untrue.

01:30:42.000 The Turner Dynasty, and it'll be nice.

01:30:46.000 Fuck let's go, Ted, cough it up if you've been hiding.

01:30:49.000 But like this is the level, this is the level of difficult discourse, and then that shit hits TikTok, and then people start repeating things.

01:30:55.000 Like, there's just so much fake stuff.

01:30:56.000 Well, the dumb thing is you were already rich when you got married.

01:31:00.000 Like how much the dumb thing is not her family.

01:31:03.000 It's not her family, but even if it was, if you married the child of a rich family, you were already rich.

01:31:09.000 Like it was stupid.

01:31:10.000 Yeah.

01:31:11.000 Like this is why I made it.

01:31:11.000 It's stupid.

01:31:12.000 No, no, no, bitch. 1.00

01:31:14.000 He was already famous.

01:31:16.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:31:16.000 It just it just doesn't make any sense. 1.00

01:31:18.000 And you see these narratives, they take hold and then they just become reality.

01:31:22.000 Uh-huh.

01:31:23.000 And and it's one of those things like you can't fight the internet.

01:31:26.000 You know, it's just like people say things and then they just become they like just become reality.

01:31:26.000 No.

01:31:33.000 It's like fascinating.

01:31:34.000 And like I've seen it happen with you.

01:31:35.000 And then I think that there's like there's obviously these different levels in comedy, so you don't imagine it happening to yourself, and then you're in it.

01:31:42.000 Uh-huh.

01:31:43.000 And yeah, it's just wild, man.

01:31:46.000 This is wild.

01:31:46.000 Like, I'm the like there's a there's this, there's these people who say that like uh I remember when I bought back the special and then I then I sold it.

01:31:53.000 Yes.

01:31:54.000 And then they're like, he sold and then he put it out on YouTube.

01:31:56.000 It's like there's literally a video of me going, if you can't afford it, steal it, and if you can't figure out how to steal it, I'll put it up on YouTube.

01:32:07.000 It's like I can't be more clear.

01:32:08.000 Right.

01:32:09.000 But it's a way funnier narrative to be like, oh, this is what happened, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:32:13.000 It's just like, guys, like he got your money, and then he put it up for free on YouTube.

01:32:16.000 And then he's got more money.

01:32:17.000 I'm saying steal it if you can't afford it, and then I'm gonna put it up on YouTube in the future.

01:32:22.000 And it's like, what do I do in that situation?

01:32:24.000 Listen, man.

01:32:25.000 I went to see SpaceX launch uh on Monday.

01:32:28.000 Jamie and I went down there.

01:32:29.000 We went down to South Texas, watched a rocket launch.

01:32:33.000 It's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my life.

01:32:39.000 I got a tour of the SpaceX facility, one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my life.

01:32:46.000 I sat with Elon in the command studio where they're going over the rocket as it's flying to Australia.

01:32:53.000 We watched it live using Starlink satellites, 60 different fucking cameras of everything monitoring every single aspect of the internal pressure of the chambers and all these different things.

01:33:06.000 And then I was watching a video of someone calling him a fuckwit.

01:33:09.000 I think he's a fuck quit.

01:33:10.000 This guy was like, I think he's a fuckwit.

01:33:12.000 His rockets keep blowing up.

01:33:14.000 Like the rockets are literally blowing up on purpose because they're testing the parameters.

01:33:19.000 They're testing what are the tolerances of these structures.

01:33:22.000 Oh, so they're pushing the limit to see what you're doing.

01:33:24.000 One hundred percent.

01:33:25.000 He's like, We know we're gonna blow some up.

01:33:27.000 But they they can produce rockets so much faster than NASA and you think he's a fuckwit, but it doesn't matter.

01:33:35.000 It's not real.

01:33:36.000 Like I I saw comedians say that he was a Nazi.

01:33:40.000 He's a Nazi, because he said, My heart goes out to you.

01:33:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:33:44.000 Because he did the thing that they all do.

01:33:46.000 Right, right, right.

01:33:47.000 And look, it looked crazy.

01:33:48.000 Look crazy.

01:33:49.000 It looked crazy, but doing the thing doesn't make you a Nazi.

01:33:52.000 No.

01:33:53.000 Believing what Nazis believe makes you a Nazi.

01:33:55.000 Yeah.

01:33:55.000 And I think that's the separation.

01:33:57.000 I think that like once you have an idea of somebody, you can't wait to confirm it.

01:34:02.000 Right.

01:34:02.000 And the internet is full of 30-second clips that will confirm whatever you believe.

01:34:07.000 100%.

01:34:08.000 And they will be sent right to your phone.

01:34:10.000 Like this is what I've been thinking about recently.

01:34:12.000 It's like, remember when um like cigarettes came out or even like fast food.

01:34:15.000 When we were growing up, was fast food unhealthy?

01:34:17.000 It was just food.

01:34:18.000 It was just food.

01:34:19.000 We just ate it as food.

01:34:20.000 This generation knows that it's unhealthy.

01:34:22.000 They don't stop eating it, but at least they're aware, right?

01:34:24.000 They know the nutrition facts.

01:34:26.000 We're about to go through what I think is like that With internet content.

01:34:31.000 Yes.

01:34:32.000 If a video gets sent to your phone from an account you don't follow, the immediate reaction should be like, this is a Big Mac.

01:34:39.000 I'll indulge in it, but it's not nutritious.

01:34:42.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:34:42.000 Right.

01:34:43.000 Like there's a reason why it's being sent, right?

01:34:45.000 It's gonna confirm whatever biases I have.

01:34:47.000 It's either gonna scare me or it's gonna make me really happy.

01:34:49.000 There's gonna be this dopamine release.

01:34:51.000 And I think that we need to start realizing that.

01:34:53.000 Like the second I see any video on the internet now, outside of peanut butter, peanut butter I love.

01:34:59.000 Love my man peanut butter.

01:35:01.000 But like I'm I'm immediately skeptical.

01:35:03.000 I'm like, what exactly is happening here?

01:35:05.000 Why is this being sent to me?

01:35:07.000 What is this confirming?

01:35:09.000 Like that's my immediate reaction.

01:35:11.000 I think that the next generation, at least kids, will definitely look at things like that.

01:35:14.000 I hope.

01:35:15.000 I think a big factor is podcasts.

01:35:18.000 Because we talk about this stuff, and they might not be talking about it with their friends, their friends might not know.

01:35:24.000 And so when we're talking like, don't trust everything.

01:35:27.000 You need to understand a lot of this is outrage farming.

01:35:30.000 They're doing it on purpose, and they're doing it specifically to try to get us at each other's throats.

01:35:36.000 Don't fall into it.

01:35:37.000 Don't be a sucker.

01:35:38.000 Don't be a sucker.

01:35:39.000 You know?

01:35:40.000 Or there's people that are like, they're just doing it because they need views and clicks.

01:35:45.000 You know, like this is and that's something that I realize is like there's this like there's this like beautiful little time in comedy where like you're everybody's hero, right?

01:35:54.000 Because you're the unsung hero.

01:35:56.000 Like everybody feels like they they're the only ones that know about you.

01:36:00.000 And they are the only ones that know what you're doing, and like everybody's riding.

01:36:03.000 And then you do eventually, some people, if you're lucky enough or fortunate enough to transcend it, where like your name can be part of pop culture.

01:36:10.000 And the benefit of that is like you get to provide for your family, you get to live your dreams, you get to do fucking arenas, it's amazing.

01:36:16.000 There's a negative that we have to put up with.

01:36:18.000 I'm not fucking complaining, it's awesome.

01:36:20.000 But like the negative is your name can be attached to any story, your pictures attached to any story.

01:36:25.000 Like, bro, I saw there was a video on the internet where it was like Joe Rogan uh ripping on his guests, and it's a picture of me and you, and I'm like, Who the fuck did this happen?

01:36:35.000 Like I watched the video, we ain't even in it together.

01:36:39.000 Yeah, all the time.

01:36:40.000 It's you see that.

01:36:41.000 It's you and like uh what the guy who was who didn't understand, like if if you're born a man or a woman, I forget what it was that's right.

01:36:48.000 It's an but it's like that guy's face isn't gonna get clicks.

01:36:51.000 Right.

01:36:51.000 Me and you, homies going at it, is gonna get right.

01:36:55.000 So it's like that is the internet in a microcosm.

01:36:59.000 And I'm not saying that like you need to I'm I I believe maybe more personal accountability.

01:37:04.000 Like, I'm not saying we should make the internet change what it is.

01:37:06.000 The internet's gonna be what it is.

01:37:08.000 We just gotta be aware of what we're consuming.

01:37:09.000 Don't ban fast food, just be aware that when you eat a Big Mac, you might not feel as good as when you eat a fucking chicken salad.

01:37:16.000 It's not healthy, but have fun.

01:37:17.000 You want to watch like Colombian assassinations and grainy security video cameras.

01:37:22.000 Have at it.

01:37:23.000 I like it too.

01:37:24.000 I like to watch I I mean, I look at my phone, it's mostly like assassinations and tits.

01:37:28.000 Bro, it the the amazing thing about it is like nobody thinks they have radical thoughts because they're so normalized by every video confirming your thought.

01:37:41.000 Right.

01:37:41.000 So it's like I used to think like and feet was unique.

01:37:46.000 You know what I mean?

01:37:47.000 Right?

01:37:48.000 I scroll on Instagram for a little bit, and I'm like, we're all into this.

01:37:52.000 There's refined cultural people out there.

01:37:54.000 Yeah.

01:37:55.000 And I think that's it with every political idea, that's it with every cultural idea.

01:37:59.000 We are a hundred percent rewarded in what we think, and then people say shit out loud, and then it becomes like a crazy story.

01:38:07.000 Yes.

01:38:09.000 Yeah.

01:38:09.000 I honestly I think that's what happened to a lot of folks with with Riot, is that like there was a lot of comics that were in that like stage before pop culture, and they got their first experience of like internet backlash because they like Jessica Curzon.

01:38:24.000 Jessica, who's fucking hilarious, I'm sure you've known like literally hilarious.

01:38:28.000 I've had her on a bunch of times, a lover. 0.98

01:38:30.000 Lesbian.

01:38:30.000 Very funny.

01:38:31.000 Jewish, super nice person.

01:38:33.000 Apparently crushed out there.

01:38:34.000 Yeah, I heard you got a standing ovation.

01:38:36.000 Crushed.

01:38:36.000 Yeah.

01:38:37.000 Okay.

01:38:37.000 Um, to me, I'm like, I'm I've maybe made a different view of these things.

01:38:42.000 It's like I think that like Western culture is so addictive, like, once you get a taste of this shit, like this is what you want.

01:38:47.000 And I think there's a version of looking at this thing where like in ten years later, they go, Yeah, we need to we need to have more of this, and we need to have more people making fun of us, and we have more people making fun of themselves, and this is beautiful like cultural exchange.

01:38:58.000 That maybe that's like looking through rose colored glasses, but that's how I look at these things.

01:39:01.000 Yeah.

01:39:02.000 Um I'm going.

01:39:04.000 And then she's like, she's experiencing that backlash because she never has.

01:39:07.000 And I think she goes, I toiled in obscurity for decades being hilarious, but not having a fan base.

01:39:12.000 I finally got one.

01:39:13.000 And then you feel that internet backlash, you think that's real, and you're like, oh my God, I'm gonna lose everything that I've always dreamed.

01:39:18.000 I need to address this.

01:39:19.000 Uh-huh.

01:39:20.000 When in reality, if you put your head down for two weeks, goes away.

01:39:24.000 Nobody will care.

01:39:25.000 Yeah.

01:39:25.000 No, there's a tentative.

01:39:26.000 That's Chris Rock's quote.

01:39:27.000 What does he say?

01:39:28.000 I've heard somebody say something similar to that.

01:39:30.000 He says I thought you told me that actually.

01:39:31.000 I thought you said, like, I just don't look at my phone.

01:39:33.000 Well, I don't.

01:39:34.000 I don't.

01:39:35.000 But Chris's take on it was wait two weeks before you respond to anything.

01:39:38.000 Yeah.

01:39:39.000 And most likely to blow away.

01:39:40.000 If it's still around after two weeks, then address it.

01:39:42.000 Make a comedy special about it.

01:39:44.000 He made it a year.

01:39:46.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:39:47.000 He's dude.

01:39:48.000 But like he stewed on that show.

01:39:50.000 He kind of milked it in the best way because if you think about it, he got to tour that thing for a year and everybody was showing up to the shows because they're like, oh, I need to say that.

01:39:59.000 But people were filming it though.

01:40:01.000 That was the problem.

01:40:02.000 Like some people pulled out their fucking phone and ruined the fun.

01:40:05.000 Yeah.

01:40:06.000 But I get why he's like, I might as well tour the shit.

01:40:08.000 I'm not going to just address it right now.

01:40:09.000 Let's go.

01:40:10.000 Also, cook it.

01:40:12.000 Like, make sure that bit is fucking, you got the right seasoning in there.

01:40:16.000 You get that fucking thing over the stove.

01:40:18.000 Make that Sunday sauce, baby.

01:40:20.000 Let's go.

01:40:20.000 Make that ragu.

01:40:22.000 Let's go.

01:40:23.000 Yeah.

01:40:24.000 It's a it's a it's a weird time for comedy, man.

01:40:26.000 It's a fun time for comedy.

01:40:28.000 Ari Shavir said it best.

01:40:30.000 What do you say?

01:40:30.000 He said comedy's dangerous again.

01:40:32.000 This is like Ari loves.

01:40:32.000 Yeah.

01:40:34.000 He loves chaos.

01:40:36.000 That silly motherfucker. 0.62

01:40:38.000 He loves when things go side.

01:40:39.000 I love chaos too, but not that much.

01:40:41.000 He fuck he likes when the city burns down.

01:40:44.000 Because he'll put out a backpack and go to Asia. 0.89

01:40:46.000 Yeah, he gets to just dip.

01:40:47.000 He really does.

01:40:48.000 He dips.

01:40:48.000 He's dipped right now.

01:40:49.000 I don't know where he is.

01:40:50.000 He's hiding somewhere in the world.

01:40:52.000 Yeah.

01:40:52.000 He'll di he'll dip for like three, four months.

01:40:54.000 Throws his phone away.

01:40:55.000 He ruins our text message thread because we gotta protect our parks.

01:40:58.000 And he turned he turned the whole thing green.

01:41:00.000 So I opened up a new text message thread.

01:41:02.000 It's called fuck Ari. 1.00

01:41:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:05.000 So it's just me and Norman and Shane.

01:41:07.000 It's like he's he's a legit wild boy, but he said it right.

01:41:12.000 He said uh comedy's dangerous again.

01:41:14.000 And it is dangerous.

01:41:15.000 But but it's only dangerous if you let it be.

01:41:18.000 Like for the for people like Jessica, I wish she'd talk to me.

01:41:21.000 I would have said, Don't listen to anybody, don't read the comments.

01:41:24.000 Yeah.

01:41:24.000 Fuck those people.

01:41:25.000 You what you're doing is the Lakota people had a term called the Heyoka.

01:41:31.000 And a hioka was a special member of society that made fun of everybody.

01:41:36.000 It was an important part of their culture.

01:41:39.000 He made fun of the chief, he made fun of the chief's wife, he made fun of everyone.

01:41:44.000 Yep.

01:41:44.000 And the idea was if you couldn't mock something that it was bullshit.

01:41:48.000 Yeah.

01:41:48.000 And so he was stress testing all of these different things.

01:41:52.000 So that was a it was called the sacred clown.

01:41:54.000 That was their definition of what a heyoka is.

01:41:56.000 This this is like built into American culture.

01:41:58.000 It's like American culture specifically.

01:42:00.000 It's like why I want Trump to do the uh what's that little like uh news pressure correspondence.

01:42:07.000 It's like why I want him to do it because look, we have a relationship with government in America that from its inception is antagonistic.

01:42:15.000 Yes.

01:42:16.000 Like we fought the war because we're like, you don't get to tell us what to do.

01:42:16.000 Right.

01:42:20.000 And then we set up systems of government that basically stop one person from telling us what to do.

01:42:25.000 And then we had this great thing where once a year the guy who's in charge, the most powerful guy gets humbled in front of all of us.

01:42:32.000 And it's this beautiful thing that is like uniquely American.

01:42:37.000 I know there's somebody right now that's in France, we've been doing this forever.

01:42:39.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:42:40.000 It to me, it's uniquely us, it's our thing.

01:42:43.000 And I love the idea of like humbling our heroes.

01:42:45.000 It's my roasts work.

01:42:46.000 It's by seeing like Tom Brady, whoever it was, like on the roast.

01:42:51.000 It and the more powerful, the more successful, the more that they've got.

01:42:55.000 We like that kind of humbling because we have that antagonistic relationship with you know the people in charge or even our heroes.

01:43:01.000 It's a beautiful fucking thing.

01:43:03.000 And afterwards, we kind of embrace those people even more.

01:43:06.000 We appreciate that you were taken to your knees, if you will, in that moment.

01:43:11.000 Did you ever see when Jeff Ross and on Comedy Central they roasted Trump?

01:43:15.000 Yeah, yeah, I've seen the obvious clips.

01:43:16.000 He had a conversation with Trump.

01:43:18.000 Well he said he said, Hey, when they're going after you, just laugh.

01:43:21.000 You gotta laugh.

01:43:22.000 You gotta smile.

01:43:22.000 If they look over at you and you got a serious look on your face, it's not good.

01:43:25.000 He's like, okay, yeah, you're right.

01:43:27.000 They realized.

01:43:28.000 He's like, yeah, you gotta let it go.

01:43:30.000 You gotta let it go.

01:43:31.000 You gotta let it go.

01:43:32.000 And you know, that's the White House press correspondence in it.

01:43:35.000 You gotta be able to let it go.

01:43:36.000 Let it go.

01:43:37.000 Let it rip.

01:43:37.000 Make fun of them, make fun of everybody.

01:43:39.000 Make fun of the press corps.

01:43:40.000 But it's this beautiful humbling thing.

01:43:42.000 But the thing about Trump is like the White House press correspondence thing is literally why he became president in the first place.

01:43:48.000 Yeah, I remember that.

01:43:49.000 When Obama was like, here's one thing that I am that you'll never be president of the United States.

01:43:58.000 I mean, if that's how it works, Trump will never have free health care.

01:44:03.000 You'll never do that.

01:44:04.000 I promise you.

01:44:05.000 Yeah.

01:44:05.000 You'll never stop every war.

01:44:07.000 That's what you have to do.

01:44:07.000 Right.

01:44:08.000 You have to challenge them.

01:44:08.000 Yeah.

01:44:10.000 But yeah, I just I think I think those things are really important.

01:44:12.000 I just think they're important, like cultural institutions for us specifically.

01:44:15.000 It doesn't work the same in other places that don't have that kind of antagonistic relationship with government.

01:44:21.000 Right.

01:44:22.000 There are places that they just do not have it.

01:44:24.000 Like they actually have like a really grateful and appreciative relationship.

01:44:29.000 Or their government doesn't have any free speech law.

01:44:33.000 Like what what England's going through right now is courageous.

01:44:33.000 Like England.

01:44:37.000 That's the thing I was trying to tell people is like when people keep talking about free speech, it's like stop acting like that's the norm.

01:44:41.000 We're the unique ones.

01:44:42.000 Yes.

01:44:43.000 In Canada, they don't have free speech.

01:44:45.000 They have free freedom of expression or something like that.

01:44:48.000 Yeah, but it's carved out with like certain things like hate crimes or hate speech.

01:44:53.000 I mean c hate speech is weird because it's very subjective.

01:44:56.000 Who defines it was hate.

01:44:57.000 Exactly.

01:44:58.000 Right?

01:44:58.000 So it's like and I remember when them truckers were protesting, they were freezing the accounts, like there's just a uniquely you know American thing, which is amazing, and we need to like protect it at all.

01:45:12.000 100%.

01:45:13.000 And we need to protect it and propagate it through the world.

01:45:17.000 We and that's why we should get upset when England starts cracking down on free speech.

01:45:21.000 Because that's a disease.

01:45:22.000 And if that disease spreads, and if England falls, and all of a sudden England is essentially a totalitarian dictatorship.

01:45:28.000 Yeah.

01:45:28.000 If they're a total totalitarian dictatorship, we're in real fucking trouble, man.

01:45:32.000 I don't think we are.

01:45:33.000 But I get what that I get that logic.

01:45:35.000 Like I get this idea that like things are right now.

01:45:39.000 No, no, I mean like even I hear what you're saying.

01:45:41.000 Like and and and trends do build steam, and then people ask for it and they see other things working.

01:45:45.000 I get that.

01:45:45.000 Like I think that makes sense, like functionally in the world.

01:45:48.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:49.000 But like my shit is like I care about American free speech.

01:45:52.000 That's what I go for.

01:45:53.000 I'm an American.

01:45:54.000 I want us to be all good.

01:45:55.000 If the other countries want to get on board with it, all right, get on board with it.

01:45:57.000 That'd be great.

01:45:58.000 The problem is they bring that shit over here.

01:46:00.000 Just like when people shit over there.

01:46:01.000 Let me tell you, in the night like 2015, 16, when I started talking shit about uh college campuses, and people are like, Why are you worried about these kids on college campuses with these Marxist ideas?

01:46:11.000 I was like, they're gonna graduate.

01:46:14.000 Like I I'm a I'm a person who sees like where things are moving, which is why I got out of California so early.

01:46:20.000 I was like, I see where this is going.

01:46:22.000 You gotta get the fuck out now.

01:46:23.000 This is not good.

01:46:24.000 And I'm like, they're gonna get out of this school and they're gonna start working for corporations and it's gonna flood the country.

01:46:30.000 They're gonna be in government.

01:46:32.000 They're gonna be positions of power 100%.

01:46:34.000 And like these corporations are gonna bend to whatever you know makes them the most money.

01:46:34.000 100%.

01:46:38.000 Right.

01:46:38.000 Which is why it's dangerous if England goes.

01:46:40.000 If England goes, if England like completely falls, like they just passed the digital or they're trying to force the digital ID on people, and they have arrested 12,000 people for social media posts, and some of them are just critical about the amount of immigration that's coming in, and they're putting them in jail for this.

01:46:57.000 Yeah.

01:46:58.000 So if that is a trend and that starts spreading through Europe and they lock those people down, because those people don't have guns, they don't have free speech laws, they don't have any of the things that protect us.

01:47:08.000 Yeah.

01:47:09.000 So you're worried about them in terms of it becoming a trend and then impacting us.

01:47:12.000 Exactly.

01:47:13.000 Because if it becomes a trend for the entire world, and we're the only and they're like the problem, the consequences of free speech is an unsafe society.

01:47:21.000 Yeah.

01:47:22.000 We have to protect the marginalized groups.

01:47:25.000 You know how that ends?

01:47:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:47:26.000 That ends with a military dictatorship, and all those people that help them get into play, all those leftists, they all get killed.

01:47:35.000 Because they're the people that are gonna re resist the government having this kind of tyrannical power that they help them get in the first place.

01:47:43.000 That's what Castro did.

01:47:44.000 That's what they all do.

01:47:45.000 They use the leftists to get into positions of power, and then once they take over.

01:47:51.000 Fuck you.

01:47:52.000 Okay, that's a fair argument that that you're that you're bringing out how it could impact us.

01:47:57.000 It's a wolf with a grandma outfit on.

01:47:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:00.000 That's what it is.

01:48:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:02.000 Yeah.

01:48:02.000 It's Big Mama's house.

01:48:03.000 Yeah, it's Tyler Perry presents Marxism for America.

01:48:11.000 But no, I I hear that because I guess my initial thing on initially was like, yo, if you guys want free speech, fight for it.

01:48:16.000 Like we fought for it.

01:48:18.000 Like people shed blood for it, they constantly are fighting for it nonstop.

01:48:21.000 You guys go vote for it.

01:48:23.000 Vote those people out first.

01:48:25.000 Don't fucking know.

01:48:26.000 No, no, no, I don't I don't mean that's what the problem is.

01:48:28.000 No, if I say that, then I'll think I meant before like America, like as a nation state has has constantly fought to maintain this thing and went through incredibly difficult times to do it because it's like a core tenet to our belief and our identity.

01:48:28.000 Like saying that.

01:48:42.000 And if other countries want that, they have to put in that same effort uh through politics.

01:48:46.000 I'm not saying go be violent or anything like that.

01:48:48.000 Right, right, right.

01:48:48.000 But the way we fought for it, it was like we've all got to be.

01:48:52.000 Banged out.

01:48:53.000 It got rough.

01:48:54.000 But we're wild boys.

01:48:54.000 That's why I'm not worried about like in like we are the collection of the craziest people on the planet.

01:49:00.000 Bro, England used to be the wildest motherfuckers on earth. 0.96

01:49:05.000 One island took over most of the world.

01:49:08.000 And now they're just arguing with wigs on.

01:49:11.000 Like what the fuck happened?

01:49:13.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:49:14.000 Does this happen in every country like that?

01:49:15.000 Did you see the guy with the wig that sentenced the guy to 20 months of custodial service?

01:49:20.000 Because he was complaining about immigrants?

01:49:22.000 Have you ever seen that video?

01:49:24.000 No.

01:49:24.000 But it is the craziest video because it's 2025 or 2024.

01:49:29.000 And it's a guy wearing a wig who's sentencing a guy for tw a 20-month sentence who just made a post criticizing immigrants.

01:49:38.000 Yeah.

01:49:39.000 Well, what was he saying about the immigrants?

01:49:40.000 Well, he was talking about these gangs of guys are coming in from the places they bomb the fuck out of.

01:49:46.000 Oh, because that's the real problem.

01:49:48.000 Why would they be worried about it?

01:49:50.000 Listen, you gotta listen to this guy.

01:49:51.000 See if you can find that video of that guy.

01:49:53.000 Because it's him wearing the wig is so crazy.

01:49:56.000 Yeah.

01:49:56.000 And while he's saying something that's so insane in the age of the internet, and it's on TikTok?

01:50:02.000 Bro, like this is like before they cut stuff out of it.

01:50:05.000 Oh, I don't care what they cut out of it.

01:50:07.000 Like just him saying it.

01:50:09.000 I don't care what context it is.

01:50:11.000 He's reading off the guy's tweets.

01:50:13.000 Yeah.

01:50:13.000 And then saying, Because of what you said, I have no choice but to sentence you to jail.

01:50:21.000 Yeah.

01:50:22.000 People to participate in attacks on a uh hotel housing asylum seekers.

01:50:29.000 Comments that encouraged was overcomments that encouraged every man their dog should be smashing the fuck at a Britannia hotel.

01:50:36.000 Uh the judge quotes one of his parlor posts responding to a user who said, If I'm down if you are a lad, so that he was starting off inciting violence.

01:50:47.000 I mean, don't tell people to go hurt people.

01:50:50.000 Your motivation became clear when you informed the police you're promoted the idea of attacking the Britannia Hotel as a result of anger and frustration and immigration problems in the country.

01:50:57.000 So what was his post though?

01:50:59.000 Oh, this is you want to say that you do not want your money going to immigrants who rape our kids and get priority. 1.00

01:51:04.000 The judge later said the overall effect of your post was to incite violence toward the building and therefore towards those in the hotel.

01:51:11.000 It was not only the refugees and asylum seekers who are likely to be affected by your post, but also the hotel managers, the night porters, and those who worked within the hotel.

01:51:19.000 That's actually reasonable.

01:51:20.000 That in that case, I see what you're saying.

01:51:22.000 Um I don't yeah, see, incitement to violence is illegal even in America, right?

01:51:28.000 Like it's like it's a different thing than just freedom of speech.

01:51:32.000 So that's that is different.

01:51:32.000 Yeah.

01:51:33.000 Yeah, but it's tells people to hurt people.

01:51:35.000 The guy wearing the wig.

01:51:37.000 Yeah, it makes it look insane.

01:51:38.000 It's like what what why like you have to have a special outfit for me to take you seriously?

01:51:43.000 Because if you're just like a regular guy and you're saying uh you were inciting violence, and then the guy goes, Yeah, but do you know what the people in that hotel did?

01:51:50.000 Yeah.

01:51:51.000 But let me tell you what they've done.

01:51:52.000 Let me tell you those those guys, they've raped underage girls, they have grooming gangs, they live there, they're getting priority, they're getting paid our money, they're on the dole.

01:52:00.000 Like you could be, you would have a conversation.

01:52:02.000 This guy's yelling out to the abyss on parlor because he doesn't know where else to go.

01:52:06.000 Yeah.

01:52:06.000 And this guy's going, well, the solution to that is I put you in a cage.

01:52:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:52:10.000 Look at that, it was on his wig.

01:52:12.000 But it put the put the thing on so you can hear this.

01:52:15.000 Of the tax us hard working people earn when it could be put to better use.

01:52:21.000 Come over here with no work visa, no trade to their name, and sit down and DOS. 0.75

01:52:30.000 And then there's more people being put out homeless each year.

01:52:34.000 They get top band priority on housing.

01:52:40.000 You went on to say that you did not want your money going to immigrants who, quote, rape our kids and get priority. 0.99

01:52:49.000 End quote.

01:52:52.000 Although you said that you had no intention of carrying out any act of violence.

01:52:58.000 There can be no doubt that you were inciting others to do so.

01:53:04.000 Otherwise, why post the comment?

01:53:09.000 You expressed remorse, but by that time it was too late.

01:53:15.000 For the offense of publishing written material in order to stir up racial hatred, there are sentencing guidelines which I must and will follow.

01:53:25.000 The maximum sentence is seven years imprisonment.

01:53:31.000 In my judgment, this comes close to harm category one.

01:53:35.000 However, for the purposes of this sentence, I will treat you as falling into category two, since there was no direct encouragement towards activity which threatens or endangers life.

01:53:52.000 However, you fall towards the top of category two.

01:53:58.000 For a category two A offense, the starting point is two years' imprisonment with a range between one and four years custody.

01:54:07.000 In mitigation, I take into account your plea of guilty for which you will receive full credit of one third following your earlier admissions.

01:54:18.000 I take account of the contents of the references from your mother, friend, and employer.

01:54:24.000 These can only be of limited value in the current circumstances, as can the contents of the pre-sentence report.

01:54:34.000 I take account too of your expression of remorse, your lack of convictions which are racially aggravated.

01:54:44.000 As is recognized on your behalf, this offense is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable.

01:54:55.000 The sentence that I pass has been reduced by one third to reflect your guilty plea.

01:55:01.000 The sentence is one of twenty months imprisonment.

01:55:05.000 In response to the we get it.

01:55:07.000 This is tricky because the guy did incite violence, but you shouldn't be doing it.

01:55:15.000 I think a lot of people are very naive of what the impact of a post if they're an anonymous person.

01:55:20.000 Yeah.

01:55:21.000 You know, they're very naive of how that's going to be perceived, and you know, they're just venting like they would be venting at the barbershop.

01:55:27.000 If they're hanging out at the barbershop, like fuck those people, someone should go over there and kick their ass. 1.00

01:55:32.000 Yeah.

01:55:34.000 Yeah.

01:55:35.000 People are looking for people also looking for community, they're looking to be feel like validated in their beliefs.

01:55:44.000 Like it also pretty it is pretty wild that these people are coming over to Europe and even to America as a direct result of military campaigns.

01:55:53.000 So that that's the other thing I found so funny is that like they're not going over there because where they live is awesome.

01:55:58.000 And like there's reasons why it's not awesome.

01:56:02.000 And there needs to be a little accountability for that.

01:56:04.000 Like I heard even like uh British comedians, they were like, you know, shitting on uh you know doing the the sally or even like uh uh shows in the Middle East and they're like they they employ people at sway slave wages, etc.

01:56:17.000 build it, and it's just like guys, I wonder what happened.

01:56:20.000 I wonder what country did something to India back in the day that created a scenario where those people might have to leave their country to get a job to afford to provide food for their whole families back in India.

01:56:34.000 I w I wonder what country might have plundered India and stripped it of all of its wealth for fucking I don't even know how long. 0.98

01:56:41.000 That created this scenario.

01:56:42.000 Like you can't just remove yourself from that.

01:56:45.000 Have you ever read that book about that one corporation?

01:56:47.000 Yeah, what is it, the uh the that basically the that turned India into a country, like a factory. 0.95

01:56:54.000 Well, what was it?

01:56:55.000 Was that not uh God I forget the name of I read the book a while ago.

01:56:58.000 It's not like a YouTube video on this.

01:56:59.000 Well, I should say I listened to it.

01:57:01.000 I listened to the book a while ago.

01:57:03.000 I can't remember the name of the corporate.

01:57:04.000 James, we gotta hold us down.

01:57:06.000 It is a crazy story though.

01:57:10.000 And that's England.

01:57:11.000 So you guys your ancestors did it, you know.

01:57:15.000 It's the chickens have come home to roost.

01:57:18.000 It doesn't mean that you have to be okay with it.

01:57:20.000 No, you have to at least be understanding of like how this scenario was created.

01:57:23.000 Yeah.

01:57:24.000 Yeah.

01:57:25.000 But it's also clearly they're letting them in.

01:57:28.000 And they're letting them in, and the thing is like, oh, we've got to do something to stop this violence.

01:57:32.000 Now we have Rise of East India Company.

01:57:34.000 The anarchy.

01:57:34.000 That's it.

01:57:35.000 The relentless rise of the East India Company.

01:57:38.000 Crazy book.

01:57:39.000 Oh, dude.

01:57:40.000 And it's all it's all real.

01:57:43.000 Like what fucking Leopold did to the Congo?

01:57:45.000 Oh God.

01:57:46.000 It's like 25 million people.

01:57:47.000 Oh God.

01:57:48.000 Yeah.

01:57:48.000 The Congo thing is nuts, man, because a bunch of these settlers thought that they were going to live in the Congo and they set up these beautiful mansions.

01:57:55.000 It just swallowed it up.

01:57:57.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

01:57:58.000 Yeah.

01:57:58.000 It just let them know you're not welcome.

01:58:00.000 One of the truly wild places in the world.

01:58:02.000 There's still images of these places, these like uh Elizabethan, is that the type of architecture?

01:58:08.000 That are just completely swallowed.

01:58:10.000 Swallowed by the jungle.

01:58:11.000 And what's crazy is the wildest part of the world is where we need to go to get the minerals to make the batteries in your cell phone.

01:58:18.000 Maybe that's why it's the wildest.

01:58:19.000 But it no, no, no, it was always wild.

01:58:21.000 It's wild because it's like inhospitable.

01:58:23.000 I mean, they have the largest chimpanzees in the world there.

01:58:26.000 They have those b bondo apes there in the Congo. 1.00

01:58:29.000 This place called Bealy.

01:58:29.000 Yeah.

01:58:30.000 They have this one subset of chimpanzees that's really large.

01:58:30.000 Okay.

01:58:33.000 And they call them lion killers.

01:58:36.000 They have two different types of chimps that the locals describe ch tree beaters and lion killers.

01:58:41.000 Lion killers, they sleep on the ground like gorillas.

01:58:44.000 They don't give a fuck.

01:58:45.000 They don't have to hide in trees.

01:58:46.000 Yeah.

01:58:46.000 They're like, come get me, bitch.

01:58:47.000 Yeah, one.

01:58:48.000 They're like six foot tall, upright chimpanzees.

01:58:51.000 Like you know that Michael Crichton book, Congo.

01:58:53.000 You ever know?

01:58:54.000 He they made a movie.

01:58:56.000 Crichton's Jurassic Park.

01:58:57.000 Yes.

01:58:57.000 Crichton made a movie, it was t kind of a goofy movie about the Congo.

01:59:01.000 And the Congo, in the movie, there's these like gray chimpanzees that are huge.

01:59:06.000 And uh obviously that's not real.

01:59:07.000 But that's what they're basically.

01:59:08.000 But it's based on this one subset of chimpanzees that actually has a crest on its skull like a gorilla.

01:59:15.000 So you know, gorillas have such large mandible because all they eat is vegetables that they have this.

01:59:20.000 This is the Michael Crichton movie.

01:59:22.000 It was kind of goofy.

01:59:23.000 Look at these big silly gorillas. 1.00

01:59:25.000 Oh wow.

01:59:27.000 And they fucked this dude up.

01:59:28.000 They look so bad.

01:59:29.000 Oh wow.

01:59:30.000 But the book is a lot better.

01:59:32.000 But in reality, there's a thing called the Bondo Ape.

01:59:35.000 And there's a s I guess it is a Swedish or Swiss wildlife photographer named Carl Armand, who became obsessed with this animal and started catching it in camera traps, and there was photos of these guys at See if you can find the photo of the guys at the airport where they shot one.

01:59:52.000 So these guys look at this these guys, but the that's not it.

01:59:55.000 No, no, no.

01:59:55.000 The one that one above it.

01:59:57.000 No, no, no, yeah, that it that's it.

01:59:59.000 Look at the size of that fucking thing.

02:00:02.000 Look at the size of that thing.

02:00:03.000 It's like a gorilla-sized chimpanzee.

02:00:07.000 And there's different photos of them on camera traps where they're shit.

02:00:12.000 No, no, that's a that's a orangutan, I think.

02:00:15.000 No.

02:00:16.000 Or a gorilla.

02:00:17.000 Um but they have video these things now.

02:00:20.000 They know that they're a subset of chimpanzees.

02:00:23.000 That's not a really big one.

02:00:24.000 That's uh it looks like it's just a big chimp. 1.00

02:00:27.000 But the idea is that this place is like rugged.

02:00:31.000 I mean, this is a is leopards and like Joe, there's a lot of rugged places.

02:00:36.000 I d I just feel like when there's a place that's resource rich, there's gonna be a lot of conflict around it.

02:00:40.000 Oh, one well, that's the Amazon too.

02:00:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:00:42.000 Same kind of situation, like really wild, pristine jungle, and then people are hacking it down because they're they want to make cattle farms and you know, log.

02:00:51.000 But like, isn't it to the best interests of the parties that are invested in the resources there for there not to be social cohesion?

02:00:59.000 Like it's easier to manage if everybody's fighting, because if there is social cohesion, you have a uh situation like what is it, Rhodesia, which just basically goes, hey, we're gonna be a great country, by the way.

02:01:09.000 And we're gonna, you know, take back our mining rights and uh we're gonna make sure that we own our resources and then we're gonna educate our people, and we're gonna have a high GDP, like there's a pretty amazing story that's tied into it, and like we they're like, okay, well, we can't let that happen in the Congo. 0.94

02:01:22.000 We gotta keep this shit a little bit uh chaotic.

02:01:25.000 Yes.

02:01:25.000 Because uh aren't there like especially with the uh the battery stuff.

02:01:29.000 Aren't there like only Nine different mines for that, and like China owns seven or something.

02:01:34.000 Something like that.

02:01:34.000 I don't know how many mines there are, but China owns a bunch of them.

02:01:37.000 And you know, that's uh Saddharth Kara wrote a book on it, and he came in and he got undercover footage that shows these people with babies on their back, pulling cobalt out of the ground with like a mask over their face, like a bandana to protect themselves from the toxic fumes.

02:01:51.000 I'm performing there next week.

02:01:55.000 I look forward to David Cross's blog about it.

02:02:01.000 My favorite post that people were not invited and don't have to even go.

02:02:05.000 I really wouldn't.

02:02:06.000 It's like I probably wouldn't.

02:02:08.000 David probably wouldn't, you know.

02:02:09.000 Um there's a thing.

02:02:11.000 We'll see.

02:02:12.000 Yeah, I remember when David Cross wrote a letter to uh Larry the Cable Guy.

02:02:17.000 He was shitting on Larry the Cable Guy and like an open letter.

02:02:21.000 And then at the like the bottom of the post, it was like from New York City, he signed it like from New York City.

02:02:29.000 I saw him I saw him getting upset that Norman farted on his podcast.

02:02:33.000 That Mark Norman and like telling him that a fart isn't funny.

02:02:37.000 And I'm just like once I see you do that, I'm just gonna go.

02:02:39.000 Well, first of all, Norman is funny, period.

02:02:41.000 Yeah.

02:02:42.000 So if he's funny and he also farts, okay, who cares?

02:02:45.000 Well, also farts are funny.

02:02:46.000 And Norman said it, he's like, that wasn't a joke.

02:02:48.000 That was not funny.

02:02:48.000 And the Norman says, a sound came out of my butt.

02:02:54.000 That's always funny.

02:02:56.000 It's funny when a baby does it, it's funny when an adult does it.

02:02:59.000 It is the funniest thing that does it.

02:03:00.000 What are we fucking talking about here?

02:03:01.000 Like, obviously.

02:03:02.000 It's funny because you're like, oh no.

02:03:02.000 It's funny.

02:03:04.000 And then he just dropped the N-word on the pod, and uh not Norman Cross, and then Norman's like Norman's like, you're gonna cut that out?

02:03:11.000 He's like, No, you don't have to cut it out.

02:03:12.000 It has the AH.

02:03:13.000 And it's like, oh well, thank you, white guy.

02:03:15.000 You tell us what N-words were allowed to say.

02:03:17.000 Uh you can tell us where the comedians are not allowed to perform, but you tell you tell the black community what N-words you're allowed to say. 0.99

02:03:24.000 It's kind of hilarious.

02:03:24.000 Yeah.

02:03:26.000 You know, there's a hard N-word in Bob Dylan's hurricane.

02:03:32.000 I got a song The Hurricane about Ruben Carter.

02:03:34.000 I got a little hurricane story.

02:03:35.000 You want to hear it?

02:03:36.000 Really?

02:03:36.000 Yeah.

02:03:37.000 You met that guy?

02:03:38.000 No.

02:03:38.000 My uh my dad interviewed his lawyer.

02:03:43.000 Ruben Carter's lawyer?

02:03:44.000 Yeah.

02:03:45.000 And uh his lawyer says uh his lawyer says uh off the record.

02:03:45.000 Really?

02:03:52.000 My dad goes, yeah.

02:03:53.000 He goes.

02:03:54.000 He did that shit.

02:04:01.000 I probably shouldn't even say that I probably shouldn't even say it right now.

02:04:05.000 But the Lord just tells my dad is that it's a good thing.

02:04:07.000 Rob Dylan is made it all racial and he did it.

02:04:11.000 Yeah, that's hilarious.

02:04:12.000 Who knows?

02:04:13.000 Maybe the lawyer's wrong.

02:04:14.000 Or maybe he's right.

02:04:15.000 Maybe he's right.

02:04:18.000 Good song.

02:04:19.000 Didn't they have a movie about it?

02:04:21.000 Yeah.

02:04:22.000 Oh yeah.

02:04:22.000 And in the movie, there's like a really racist cop that's like targeting him through the whole movie, and apparently the guy was a total construct.

02:04:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:04:30.000 Oh, really?

02:04:31.000 There wasn't like one cop who was like really interested, he was chasing him that they used it as a vehicle to push the storyline, which I always think is gross when you're doing something about a historical person.

02:04:43.000 Yeah.

02:04:44.000 I think that's gross.

02:04:46.000 But if you also make an obligation, though.

02:04:46.000 Yeah.

02:04:49.000 If you're making a movie about a historical person, you can't have a character that moves your plot along that didn't exist.

02:04:56.000 I mean Because now you're changing history for a lot of dumbasses who don't read a book. 1.00

02:05:00.000 I mean, that's what the people who the people who fucking you know dictate what history is.

02:05:07.000 You know, I was talking to you.

02:05:09.000 Sort of, but they're just doing it to make the movie better.

02:05:11.000 Yes, exactly.

02:05:12.000 That's their their responsibility is to make money.

02:05:12.000 They're doing it.

02:05:15.000 Yeah.

02:05:15.000 I was talking to Shane about this, and we were just talking about like uh ancient histories.

02:05:19.000 Like, yeah, I don't fuck with the ancient history, and I'm I'm like, why not?

02:05:21.000 And he goes, Nobody really knows what fucking Augustus said to this guy.

02:05:25.000 Like people just making it up and like writing it down afterwards.

02:05:28.000 He's like, you really kind of barely even know what happened 50 years ago or like a hundred years ago.

02:05:34.000 And I think that's one of the reasons why if you get into like antiquity, it's so interesting, because it's just been like mythologized.

02:05:40.000 Yeah.

02:05:41.000 So everything is so much more remarkable and amazing, and the people are so much more resilient because they've been retelling the story for two thousand years.

02:05:48.000 If you want people to listen to a story, you've got to make it interesting.

02:05:51.000 Yeah.

02:05:52.000 No doubt.

02:05:53.000 Yeah, you gotta make it interesting.

02:05:54.000 And the the thing is also you have to remember it and then you have to tell it to people before anybody even figures out how to write things down.

02:06:01.000 Yeah.

02:06:01.000 So they're they're saying it for a thousand years before they even write it down.

02:06:04.000 Yeah.

02:06:05.000 That's my issues with the Bible.

02:06:07.000 I think the Bible is a historical account of something.

02:06:12.000 Yeah.

02:06:12.000 And I think uh one of the real problems with the Bible is as you get older and older with the Bible, things get weirder and weirder.

02:06:21.000 So it's like, what was the original story?

02:06:22.000 Like if you get to the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Dead Sea Scrolls are bananas.

02:06:26.000 And there's stuff in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

02:06:28.000 Like if you get like uh I had Rep Luna, uh, you know, Anna Paulina Luna on the podcast, and she was talking to me about the Book of Enoch.

02:06:34.000 She goes, You ever read that?

02:06:35.000 And that's not included in the canonizer.

02:06:37.000 Here's why, because of rabbis, a f a bunch of rabbis said it didn't align with the Torah.

02:06:41.000 And so they yanked it out.

02:06:42.000 But it's an original biblical text, or at least a part of the religious original religious text that they found in the sea in the um Dead Sea Scrolls in Qumran.

02:06:52.000 When they found those clay tablets, the book of Enoch was in there as along with the book of Isaiah.

02:06:56.000 We need to call West.

02:06:57.000 The book of Enoch is nuts.

02:06:59.000 That's the giant stuff about it.

02:07:00.000 That's the giant's.

02:07:01.000 It's not just the giants, it's aliens.

02:07:02.000 It's about the watchers who came down and mated with human beings.

02:07:06.000 Bro, I'm reading it right now.

02:07:07.000 I know you are.

02:07:09.000 Bananas.

02:07:10.000 It's she told me to read it.

02:07:12.000 And she was like, she's like, you have to read this.

02:07:14.000 It's nuts.

02:07:15.000 And what did Weshoft say?

02:07:16.000 Did he say there's a legitimacy?

02:07:17.000 Yeah, it's it's 100% of legitimate tech.

02:07:20.000 It's legitimate religious text.

02:07:23.000 But they decided not to include it because it's so nuts and because it goes against like what the writings of the Torah.

02:07:28.000 Right, right.

02:07:29.000 So but it was a few rabbis, just a few rabbis decided.

02:07:32.000 Like if the book of Enoch was included in the Bible, it changes the whole story of the human race.

02:07:37.000 Why would the rabbis decide what goes into the Christian?

02:07:39.000 Because back then they had that kind of power.

02:07:40.000 They just decided that it doesn't get included in the canon.

02:07:43.000 This is a long time ago.

02:07:45.000 But yeah, I mean, this is like around well, who decided the canonized Bible, right?

02:07:48.000 This is a like Constantine time, right?

02:07:50.000 Well, that's for the New Testament, right?

02:07:52.000 And so with the Old Testament, you've got a Weshoff would be the guy that took it. 1.00

02:07:55.000 Oh, wait a minute, Enoch was included in the Old Testament.

02:07:57.000 Oh, it's old as fuck.

02:07:58.000 Okay, got it.

02:07:59.000 Not only is it old as fuck, when they found it, they also found a version of the book of Isaiah.

02:08:04.000 This is one of the things that Wes Huff told me that was really fascinating.

02:08:07.000 They found a version of the book of Isaiah that is verbatim, the same as a version of uh the version of Isaiah that was a thousand years later, which they thought was the original.

02:08:18.000 Unbelievable.

02:08:19.000 That's what's crazy.

02:08:20.000 For one thousand years, they maintained the exact same story, verbatim, writing it down and passing it on.

02:08:27.000 And the book of Enoch's in there with that.

02:08:30.000 And the book of Enoch is banana.

02:08:33.000 Yeah, I think we might need to do a little deep dive on the book of Enoch.

02:08:35.000 The book of Enoch, it says that these watchers came down and mated with human beings and created a race of giants called the Nephilim, yeah, who consumed and destroyed everything in front of them.

02:08:49.000 Gee, that sounds like people.

02:08:51.000 Yeah.

02:08:51.000 That sounds a lot like people.

02:08:52.000 Yeah.

02:08:52.000 If you got a bunch of little chimps, and then you got these tall aliens and they make a fucking seven foot man, yeah, you know, a Viking, who's like chopping off heads and lighting villages on fire and has this undesirable uh unstoppable desire for conquest, that's humans.

02:09:08.000 The Nephilim sounds like humans. 0.81

02:09:10.000 Like yeah, exactly.

02:09:11.000 So they're not giants, we are the giants, and then what if they might have been giants?

02:09:15.000 Like it's it's hard to say.

02:09:16.000 But what if the other folks were the Neanderthals?

02:09:18.000 Well Because there was a time where we're living together, right?

02:09:20.000 Right.

02:09:21.000 Well, they were here before us, allegedly.

02:09:23.000 Well, this is the question is like, where did humans come from?

02:09:25.000 Yeah.

02:09:26.000 This is the real question.

02:09:27.000 There's a really interesting show on PBS right now called Human, where this lady goes on this journey of uh it's like she's uh what is her degree in?

02:09:37.000 Is she an anthropologist?

02:09:39.000 I believe she's an anthropologist.

02:09:40.000 But um, or maybe some sort of biologist, but she she goes over the history of the human species.

02:09:46.000 It's very interesting.

02:09:47.000 The migration from across the Bering land bridge into North America, when the oldest people started coming here, where they how they came here, fascinating stuff.

02:09:58.000 But that's one of those things, like if you think ancient history is filled with horseshit, like ancient human history, like of the the human uh that's the woman's name.

02:10:10.000 I don't want to fuck up her name.

02:10:11.000 Ella Al Shamahi.

02:10:14.000 And um it's on BBC and PBS.

02:10:18.000 Really good show.

02:10:18.000 I just started watching it.

02:10:19.000 She's a paleontologist.

02:10:25.000 Um, but they just found recently a human skull that pushes the date of humans back another five hundred thousand years.

02:10:34.000 Yeah.

02:10:34.000 So it's like all they know is what they find in the fossil record, and there's so little fossil record.

02:10:39.000 Yeah.

02:10:39.000 And then they keep finding new things.

02:10:41.000 Yeah.

02:10:41.000 Like they just found Denisovans in like 2010.

02:10:44.000 Like, what's that?

02:10:45.000 What's this?

02:10:46.000 Total new branch of the human tree.

02:10:48.000 It's called Dennis Oven's Dennis Ovens.

02:10:51.000 yeah they found like uh a bunch of teeth I think in Asia and they're like, what the fuck is this?

02:10:54.000 And then so or maybe it was Russia.

02:10:57.000 So there's that is the one that they found in China, the big head people.

02:11:01.000 Yeah, that's the one that's real recent.

02:11:03.000 That's real recent.

02:11:05.000 I forget what that one's called.

02:11:06.000 We've done this a million times but I always forget.

02:11:09.000 But so they're always finding these new versions of humans.

02:11:12.000 So how many of them really were there?

02:11:15.000 But if if there's a bunch of science experiments if aliens are coming down and like let's try them where they're short, really powerful and they only eat meat.

02:11:24.000 And that's Neanderthal's like stop this one's not a good design.

02:11:28.000 This is not a good design.

02:11:29.000 We need them a little more frail so they invent things.

02:11:32.000 Because the the brutes don't invent anything.

02:11:34.000 Yeah more frontal cortex.

02:11:36.000 Yeah the well the Neanderth Daniandals had bigger brains than us. 1.00

02:11:39.000 That's what's interesting.

02:11:40.000 So then what part of our brain was specifically different.

02:11:42.000 Aaron Ross Powell So we have a very um we we our idea of them is that they were dumb and they they couldn't talk and that they were brutes but it doesn't seem like that's true.

02:11:55.000 In fact it seems like they had art they definitely had tools and they had language and they might have been as smart as us.

02:12:01.000 They were just different and maybe us being a little weaker is what made us smarter.

02:12:08.000 Made us work collectively maybe we're a little more alien.

02:12:11.000 Just a touch there's a little too much salt in that stew.

02:12:15.000 Let's add a touch more of us and you know it seems like the hairy you know five foot seven two hundred pound fucking savages with big eyes that might be able to see at night because it looks like they might have had night vision.

02:12:28.000 They have huge eyeballs man.

02:12:30.000 The Neanderthal eye sockets way bigger than ours. 0.78

02:12:33.000 Their skulls thicker their bones are more dense they might have had night vision like a dog.

02:12:39.000 You know how dogs their eyes glow when the headlights hit 'em they might have had that same ability I mean yeah I don't know why that design's too that design's too sketchy it's just not really they can see at night yeah and then they go hunting other people this is too much but then we hunted them maybe we might have just fucked them.

02:12:59.000 I also heard we fucked them you're like I got a little bit of yeah one more time with the monkeys but in terms of like the stories like you know when you know when a comic gets off stage and like they think they killed but they bombed?

02:13:14.000 Right.

02:13:15.000 Like there could be people telling those stories in the books.

02:13:20.000 There could be like meaning what the their rendition of what happens is in the book and and that is what they truly believed happened.

02:13:29.000 They might not even be delusional.

02:13:34.000 And history is always written by the winners.

02:13:35.000 Exactly yeah my version of the the Bible story back in the day I used to have this bit about Noah's Ark.

02:13:41.000 I was like the problem with the Bible is people are full of shit and that story sucks.

02:13:45.000 Like it's that simple it's like people lie all the time.

02:13:45.000 Yeah.

02:13:48.000 I've never met any politician or any person who's in charge of anything that's like really important that I would say never lies.

02:13:57.000 So if you're back then where there's zero accountability, zero video, zero anything they can't even write.

02:14:04.000 Well that's where the cross referencing makes sense, right?

02:14:06.000 It's like that's when you got a bunch of different people saying the same thing or similar things you just have to go, okay, maybe this this did happen.

02:14:13.000 But I don't know there's something there is something about it.

02:14:16.000 You know like every time I go to church and like whatever something about the music I get like emotional and I try I've tried to like reflect on it and understand like what it is I don't know if it's like seeing people submit to this power that's greater than them.

02:14:31.000 I don't there's just like I get there really emotional about it.

02:14:34.000 I don't know what the hell it is well it's a it's a combined shared experience that you're having with all the people that are in that building too.

02:14:41.000 Yeah.

02:14:41.000 There's there's something to that.

02:14:43.000 And I'm just like watching yeah like maybe it's I like maybe I'm a little cynical and skeptical and like I can get caught up in the raw emotion of submitting to something that you cannot control.

02:14:58.000 And maybe there's a part of me that that really kind of like envies that and and wants to in the same way that like a lot of control.

02:15:05.000 I don't know if I have any but like You have a lot of discipline.

02:15:10.000 Yeah, but a person who like yourself does a lot of discipline and a lot of work ethic, that doesn't come without control over yourself.

02:15:15.000 Yes.

02:15:16.000 And you want to submit and give in to something sometimes.

02:15:18.000 And there's something beautiful in that.

02:15:19.000 And like seeing people do it so willingly, like I get fucking emotional.

02:15:22.000 It's yeah, it's and uh Yeah, I I've I've thought about it a lot.

02:15:27.000 I don't know what it is.

02:15:28.000 But it happens almost every time.

02:15:30.000 And it's specifically with the music.

02:15:32.000 Yeah.

02:15:33.000 Well, I think music is a very powerful thing.

02:15:35.000 I mean, that's when we were playing What Up Gangsta.

02:15:37.000 I mean, come on, man.

02:15:38.000 Well, like we're both on a drug.

02:15:40.000 Dude, there's a uh your whole body starts moving, you're like, oh come on.

02:15:43.000 I was talking to this guy, he's a photographer for um F1, he's been doing for like 30 years.

02:15:48.000 And uh he you know, he's been to he literally takes off one race a year to go to like this music festival.

02:15:53.000 He just loves music.

02:15:54.000 And like I asked him if he saw Oasis, because you know, Oasis is is back.

02:15:58.000 And um You're a fan of Oasis, yeah, love them.

02:16:01.000 And what's so interesting is happening like with with Oasis specifically is uh right now we don't live in like the monoculture anymore.

02:16:08.000 You know, like there's a thousand different silos and everybody thinks that like the thing happening in their world is the most important thing.

02:16:14.000 There's no like universal new rock star.

02:16:16.000 Like Justin Bieber might have been like the last person that was like a musician that everybody knows.

02:16:21.000 There's a K-pop band that none of us can name the guys that is the biggest band in the world.

02:16:25.000 Exactly.

02:16:25.000 But like back in the day, especially when we were growing up, there were bands that were just un metallica like performing in Russia.

02:16:33.000 You know, like these things were just kind of there was a monoculture, and then the internet has divided that, and that just is what it is.

02:16:39.000 But what's kind of interesting is I feel like people are the people who did experience monoculture, they're going back to these like nostalgic events.

02:16:47.000 It's like why existing IP movies are the only movies that work, right?

02:16:51.000 It's like they want to feel those moments when we all were experiencing the same thing at the same time.

02:16:56.000 And like I'm seeing these like Oasis clips.

02:16:58.000 Like all my boys, I was on Australia, but all my boys went to go see Oasis.

02:17:01.000 And like there's a really interesting thing.

02:17:04.000 The uh the lead singer, uh I guess is it Noel or Liam is the lead singer.

02:17:08.000 I'm such like a casual.

02:17:10.000 Doesn't matter.

02:17:11.000 Like he's just wearing a track suit.

02:17:12.000 Like he's just wearing like fucking like the month and like to me, I'm like, that's the most rock star shit.

02:17:18.000 Wearing the big flamboyant thing was rock star when everybody was wearing suits.

02:17:23.000 But now that everybody is big flamboy, just showing up in a fucking hoodie to your fucking stadium show, it just lets you know like I'll do whatever I'm gonna be the damn gonna throw it.

02:17:36.000 Waving Yeah, I don't know.

02:17:38.000 I like anybody feels the way I do.

02:17:44.000 Oh my god, what I saw.

02:17:48.000 For real?

02:17:48.000 It's happened before.

02:17:49.000 We're that good.

02:17:50.000 We're that good.

02:17:51.000 So what do we have to do?

02:17:52.000 Cut that part out?

02:17:54.000 Yeah, let's cut that part.

02:17:55.000 We were just singing an Oasis song.

02:17:57.000 Unfortunately, you can't hear it because of tyranny.

02:18:00.000 Tyranny fascism.

02:18:01.000 But it's I don't know, like I love comics throwing out that word too.

02:18:04.000 That's a funny one.

02:18:05.000 Throwing out fascists.

02:18:06.000 Nobody even knows what that fucking word means.

02:18:07.000 That's the most annoying thing.

02:18:09.000 Nobody knows the definition of that shit.

02:18:11.000 There's a few people online that are like political uh debaters that know the definition of that word.

02:18:16.000 But what it is is like you're bad.

02:18:19.000 That's it.

02:18:20.000 You're an asshole.

02:18:20.000 Yeah, you're bad.

02:18:21.000 I'm gonna call you an asshole political.

02:18:26.000 I disagree with the things that you're doing.

02:18:27.000 So I'm gonna use this word that neither of us really know the definition of.

02:18:30.000 Because if you call me a fascist, I can't really say I'm not because I don't know what the fuck that shit is.

02:18:38.000 Well, that's the problem with like seeing things like Antifa.

02:18:41.000 Well, of course you're anti-fascist.

02:18:43.000 Yeah, it's a pretty good thing.

02:18:44.000 Yeah.

02:18:45.000 It's like the Patriot Act.

02:18:46.000 Oh, we all patriot.

02:18:47.000 Take my rights.

02:18:49.000 Of course I'm a patriot.

02:18:50.000 Take away my rights.

02:18:51.000 It's like every type of patriotism.

02:18:53.000 Like pushes a bill that's like the don't hurt women bill.

02:18:56.000 Yes.

02:18:56.000 You know, but all it is is like tax incentives for some group.

02:18:59.000 And how you why Trump is so r ridiculous.

02:19:02.000 The big beautiful bill.

02:19:03.000 It's just like everything is market-like why with you're gonna be too big.

02:19:06.000 It's beautiful.

02:19:07.000 It's big.

02:19:10.000 But that's the that's the political game, man.

02:19:13.000 It's a stupid fucking game.

02:19:15.000 Bro, it is.

02:19:15.000 It is a stupid game to base your entire personality and identity about.

02:19:19.000 That is That's the weird part.

02:19:21.000 And people do.

02:19:21.000 Yeah.

02:19:22.000 Oh, it's everything.

02:19:23.000 People do.

02:19:24.000 And they're they're in a life or death struggle every four years.

02:19:26.000 Like settle down.

02:19:27.000 Because it's a zero-sum game.

02:19:29.000 Power is a zero-sum game.

02:19:30.000 Yeah.

02:19:31.000 Right?

02:19:31.000 It's just like if I think that this person is going to completely change my life and completely strip me of everything I have, anybody that supports that person and that person are completely evil.

02:19:42.000 Right.

02:19:43.000 And then once you think someone's evil, you can do anything to them.

02:19:45.000 Right.

02:19:46.000 Well, the people that have an argument about that are Mexican immigrants.

02:19:50.000 Especially the children of Mexican immigrants who maybe their family, maybe they're illegal because they were born here, but their parents aren't and they're realizing their parents might get kicked out.

02:19:57.000 That's scary.

02:19:59.000 It's fucked up.

02:19:59.000 That's scary.

02:20:00.000 I don't like the IC stuff at all.

02:20:02.000 It's not just bad, it's bad for them.

02:20:04.000 And I don't know how they don't realize that this is the worst look ever.

02:20:08.000 It's it's also a bad look for ICE.

02:20:12.000 Yeah.

02:20:12.000 Like ICE itself is a very important institution.

02:20:15.000 Yeah.

02:20:16.000 Like you want to make sure that you have a government program that can enforce the borders and also like remove people that are here illegally, especially people that are doing criminal activity.

02:20:26.000 Like this is an institution that we shouldn't malign.

02:20:29.000 This is one that we should be proud of.

02:20:30.000 This is a good thing.

02:20:31.000 But then when every video coming out is like seeing these people being like torn, their families and all this kind of stuff.

02:20:36.000 It's like, yeah, you're gonna have a lot of animosity towards these groups.

02:20:39.000 I know we're having this conversation right now, there's already people getting a video going, well, this is what you guys wanted.

02:20:43.000 And this is like one of the things I actually talk to Trump about is like, how can we not do this?

02:20:49.000 How do we have these people who have been living here for fucking ten years and they're paying taxes?

02:20:49.000 Like what can we do?

02:20:53.000 Like, why don't we give them a pathway to citizenship?

02:20:55.000 And I specifically was like, yo, you own hotels.

02:20:58.000 You've employed these people.

02:20:59.000 You know they're good people.

02:20:59.000 Right.

02:21:00.000 Right.

02:21:01.000 Like if you like work entertainers, like we work in fucking restaurants. 0.85

02:21:04.000 You know what I mean?

02:21:05.000 Like we know we work with these people and you see them grinding, like I don't know.

02:21:09.000 Yeah, that's a very frustrating thing.

02:21:12.000 I think their problem with it is multifaceted, but I think one of the issues is the way the census works.

02:21:18.000 Because the way the census works, you get congressional seats based on the amount of people that live in an area, regardless of whether or not those people are citizens.

02:21:26.000 So nuts?

02:21:28.000 So if you have uh import so like you say if you import uh how do you prove that they're there then if they're illegal?

02:21:33.000 Because again, no the census doesn't check to see your legality.

02:21:37.000 It just counts the number of people that live in a residence.

02:21:39.000 But how do you count it?

02:21:40.000 Like they have to fill the census out, right?

02:21:42.000 Why would they fill it out if they're here illegally? 1.00

02:21:43.000 Um that's a good question.

02:21:45.000 But it's they know.

02:21:47.000 They know based on employment, they know it's like there's a bunch of different uh points of uh of data that they get it from.

02:21:54.000 That's a good question.

02:21:56.000 But the point is it doesn't matter if they're illegal.

02:21:58.000 So if you fill out a sentence and you're illegal, it doesn't matter.

02:22:02.000 You it's it just matters how many people are in this area, and that dictates how many congressional seats you get.

02:22:07.000 So if you can abort a bunch of people, also if you encourage these people to fill out the census because it's politically beneficial to your party, right?

02:22:14.000 Especially if you help those people get in.

02:22:16.000 That's it.

02:22:17.000 So if you invited them into this country, actually flew them out to that place, put them up in hotels, that kind of deal, then you can get more congressional seats because you have more human beings.

02:22:25.000 So that's the argument.

02:22:26.000 Like a lot of people chalk it up to uh they're giving these people voting rights, and it's like, no, that's not what's happening.

02:22:32.000 They're actually increasing the amount of representatives you could have in a certain district.

02:22:36.000 They are, but then we went over this yesterday in Tim Wals's state in Minnesota, they actually passed a law where they give them driver's licenses and they could use those driver's licenses to vote.

02:22:48.000 It's not legal, but someone could break the law and do it with those driver's licenses.

02:22:54.000 The problem is they know that some people have.

02:22:56.000 There definitely have been instances where illegal aliens have voted for whatever election.

02:23:03.000 Right.

02:23:03.000 So the question is did they move them there for congressional seats, did they move them there for cheap labor?

02:23:10.000 Did they move them there because if they they pay for these people and give them ABT cards and then eventually they devise a pathway to citizenship if they get like a Democrat in in four years, we have to take care of our community regardless of whether you can if you're a good person, a hardworking person, we want you to join team America.

02:23:30.000 And that's how I feel.

02:23:31.000 That's how I feel.

02:23:32.000 And so then all of a sudden those people who you gay got in, gave EBT cards, put them up in the Roosevelt, now those people are voting. 0.92

02:23:40.000 Right.

02:23:40.000 And obviously they're gonna vote for the people who have protected them and I wouldn't blame them for that at all.

02:23:45.000 Especially now, this is why it's politically dangerous for the Republicans.

02:23:49.000 Because this support of ICE and seeing that that you just lost the whole Latino base, right?

02:23:54.000 Yeah.

02:23:54.000 Except the hardcore Cubans who don't have a fuck.

02:23:56.000 Yeah, that's the fuck out of here.

02:23:58.000 We ain't voting Democrat.

02:23:58.000 Yeah.

02:24:00.000 That was the joke I had, it's like the second they put their foot on dry land, they're like, we gotta stop this immigration. 1.00

02:24:05.000 This is this is too much, guys.

02:24:07.000 This is too much.

02:24:09.000 Especially from communist countries.

02:24:10.000 Get the fuck out of here with those ideas. 0.61

02:24:12.000 They've experienced communism, and that's why they embrace materialism.

02:24:16.000 Cubans love Cuban links, big ass gold chains, so let a motherfucker know I got some cheda. 1.00

02:24:21.000 Yeah.

02:24:22.000 Like because in their country, like you get what they give you, and that's it.

02:24:22.000 Right?

02:24:26.000 I heard uh I heard a good quote.

02:24:28.000 You know, you know uh you know Carlos Slim is.

02:24:31.000 You've heard of Carlos Slim, he's like a telecommunication magnet, he's like wealthiest guy to Mexico, but they're all over the world.

02:24:36.000 He's like you know, super billionaire.

02:24:38.000 And um apparently out of you know, this is a second hand, but like uh he's this guy who I don't know what he looks like, but I'm aware of his name.

02:24:46.000 He's incredibly powerful, incredibly successful.

02:24:50.000 What a great name.

02:24:50.000 Carlos amazing, right?

02:24:52.000 And uh sounds like a pool player, right?

02:24:54.000 It sounds like uh he's related to iceberg.

02:24:56.000 Yeah, the guy who wrote the uh book he wrote a book on Pippin.

02:25:01.000 That book is terrifying.

02:25:03.000 Like I was like, how do I make sure these guys don't meet my wife?

02:25:08.000 Like it's fucking horrifying that book.

02:25:09.000 But um But yeah, he had an interesting thing, but like I'm always impressed by these guys who have all this power, but they don't want any of the limelight.

02:25:17.000 Like I don't know what he looks like, but I know the name and I know he's involved in everything.

02:25:21.000 Yeah.

02:25:22.000 And uh apparently he said something like um even billionaires can be new to money.

02:25:29.000 Implying that like a lot of the guys that we see, we hear, the guys that are all over the place, like they're new to this, and they on some level want it to be known that they got it.

02:25:40.000 And the people who've maybe done it for you know, legacy generations, they're like, you actually get yourself in more trouble the more people know.

02:25:40.000 Right.

02:25:49.000 Oh, for sure.

02:25:50.000 Right?

02:25:51.000 But it's hard to like be broken and get some money and not want to flex it.

02:25:54.000 Well, even if you don't want to flex it, if you just have it, like if you're Jeff Bezos, you're out in the middle of the Caribbean you know, with Lauren Sanchez chilling on a yacht.

02:26:03.000 There's someone with a drone taking photos of it.

02:26:05.000 I mean, you also do your wedding in Venice, like you want to flex it.

02:26:08.000 That was flexing.

02:26:09.000 You want to flex it.

02:26:09.000 That was her, I bet.

02:26:10.000 Yeah.

02:26:11.000 She was like, I want a big thing.

02:26:12.000 Oh, wait, you don't think Jeff wanted to do his second wedding in Venice?

02:26:16.000 With a bunch of celebrities, invite every famous person on earth, the Kardashian show.

02:26:21.000 Yeah, three times.

02:26:22.000 Yeah.

02:26:22.000 You don't think he wanted that?

02:26:24.000 Yeah.

02:26:24.000 Hilarious.

02:26:25.000 But that's what happens, bro.

02:26:26.000 So the wedding is the wife's issue. 0.74

02:26:28.000 Right, and you kind of gotta go too.

02:26:29.000 You're like, damn, we don't have to be a good thing.

02:26:30.000 You kinda gotta do their own.

02:26:31.000 Oh, I thought you were talking about Jeff going to his own wedding.

02:26:32.000 Oh, yeah, that too.

02:26:33.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:26:34.000 Do I have to go?

02:26:35.000 This feels like your thing.

02:26:36.000 Are you sure I have to do it?

02:26:38.000 You in this venture?

02:26:39.000 Yeah.

02:26:40.000 Yeah.

02:26:40.000 You like if you get invited to that and you're like one of their fucking friends, you're like, oh great.

02:26:45.000 Yeah, fly to Venice and be a part of the zoo.

02:26:48.000 See, that's how you that's like that's how like kind of we would feel about it.

02:26:53.000 But there are certain people who are like, I think they almost define themselves by those invitations.

02:26:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:27:01.000 What?

02:27:02.000 I think I define myself being able to miss the wedding.

02:27:06.000 Well, there's also a thing that we actually make stuff ourselves rather than have to uh get hired to go make us stuff.

02:27:16.000 You know, like you'll do a movie occasionally if you want to, but you make your own comedy, you make your own podcast, you make your own stuff.

02:27:24.000 When you're an actor and you don't make your own stuff and you gotta appear in other people's stuff, there's a whole different layer of bullshit that you have to dance with.

02:27:33.000 There's a reliance.

02:27:34.000 Yeah, there's a reliance, and then there's also like a currency of being current, you know, and hot.

02:27:41.000 Yep, yep, yep.

02:27:42.000 You gotta be a part of that.

02:27:43.000 Yeah.

02:27:44.000 And that's when you know, one of the things you see about comics that lash out of people, it's like Marin's a good example of this.

02:27:50.000 Is like once you've got no currency, that's when you start lashing out.

02:27:54.000 Because you gotta get attention some way.

02:27:54.000 Yeah.

02:27:57.000 Yeah.

02:27:57.000 And you're not getting it through your art.

02:27:59.000 So what's the what's the way to get it?

02:28:01.000 You have to figure out some way to be current.

02:28:03.000 So find out what is current and then shit all over it.

02:28:06.000 And get the people who who think Elon's a fuckwit.

02:28:09.000 He's a fuckwit.

02:28:10.000 Yeah, like get those people, and they're like, yeah, fuck Schultz, yeah.

02:28:14.000 Folk broke and fuck everybody, but I mean, that's the that's gotta be the worst thing, is like to be a comic that only gets attention when you talk about comedy.

02:28:26.000 Right.

02:28:26.000 Like you want to get attention from your jokes.

02:28:29.000 You want People to like you for the function.

02:28:31.000 You want to have a really interesting point that nobody else thought of.

02:28:34.000 Yeah.

02:28:34.000 Hilarious or something fucking stupid and silly that's hilarious.

02:28:37.000 Like, that's what we love.

02:28:38.000 Right.

02:28:39.000 And like that's what you actually really want.

02:28:40.000 But like when the only reason anybody's talking about you is because you're shitting on your colleagues.

02:28:45.000 Right.

02:28:46.000 Like that's what's bothering you in the world.

02:28:48.000 But I think I think that's what happened with just the whole like what's happening right now with the comedy economy, it's like I think people are feeling I think I think young comics are probably feeling a little bit like concerned that they don't know the way forward.

02:29:00.000 Right.

02:29:01.000 They also don't know whether or not they're being forced to participate in these pylons or whether they should back off.

02:29:07.000 And then they get pressure and they don't know what to do.

02:29:09.000 Like I cut young guys and young women a lot more slack than I do the OGs, these people that have been around for a long time.

02:29:18.000 And you should know that this is not fair, it's not cool.

02:29:21.000 And it you also should if you have an opinion on what these people are doing with whatever, whether it's Riyadh or whether have some kind of compassion for these people as human beings and as colleagues, and be charitable.

02:29:41.000 Be charitable.

02:29:42.000 This is what I try to do.

02:29:42.000 I try to be very charitable when I talk about anybody that I'm not like in a like a real serious thing, like a Mark Barron type thing with.

02:29:51.000 Yeah.

02:29:51.000 That guy I'm like, fuck you.

02:29:52.000 Yeah.

02:29:53.000 You're you're a problem.

02:29:54.000 Yeah, he made his well, he made his bed, and the Theo thing just really drove me crazy.

02:29:54.000 But he made his bed.

02:29:58.000 Because Theo is the sweetest fucking human being.

02:30:01.000 I I love him to death.

02:30:03.000 You think that man wants to be talking about another comedian?

02:30:07.000 Like, do you think that his own?

02:30:08.000 The thing is that's you remember what comics would all they talk about is like airline seats and travel.

02:30:13.000 It's because that's all they knew.

02:30:14.000 Because they were on the road out of the room.

02:30:15.000 On the road constantly that's because that's all they think about.

02:30:17.000 That's all he thinks about is other people doing better than him.

02:30:20.000 So that's what he wants to be about it.

02:30:22.000 Where's your thoughts on Gaza?

02:30:23.000 Oh, I haven't heard him say anything about that one.

02:30:25.000 Kind of weird.

02:30:26.000 Yeah.

02:30:26.000 There was some crazy estimate.

02:30:29.000 The actual official tallies, like 67,000 people dead.

02:30:36.000 It's gonna be more than that, but Steven Dozinger uh had a thing on his page where there's some human rights group that estimates it to be as high as four hundred thousand.

02:30:45.000 Yeah, because I don't think they count missing as dead yet.

02:30:48.000 I mean there's no way there's no way they know.

02:30:48.000 No.

02:30:50.000 You look at all that rubble, and bro, okay.

02:30:53.000 So there's that, but then there's also what Hamas is doing right now in in Gaza, which is crazy.

02:30:58.000 These executions and tortures of people that they think collaborated with Israel.

02:31:04.000 Horrific.

02:31:05.000 Horrific.

02:31:06.000 Me and Tommy Segura have a uh a text thread that we go back and forth with literally the worst shit we find every day.

02:31:13.000 It's like a trauma thread.

02:31:14.000 Yeah.

02:31:15.000 And uh I sent him one.

02:31:17.000 Someone just needs to feel something, huh?

02:31:21.000 He just needs to feel that's why I said it's these things.

02:31:24.000 You gotta show him the worst shit ever.

02:31:25.000 He's like, Alright, I am human.

02:31:27.000 Yeah, I sent him one.

02:31:28.000 He was like, that one was rough.

02:31:29.000 I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:31:31.000 It's uh they they were breaking this guy's bones with boulders.

02:31:34.000 They had this guy blindfolded and he was sitting down and they took this enormous rock and threw it on his shin and snapped his shin in half.

02:31:42.000 Yeah.

02:31:43.000 And this guy's screaming.

02:31:45.000 And then they take his arm and they stretch his arm out, and this guy hits it with his giant bat and crushes his arm.

02:31:50.000 That's horrific.

02:31:51.000 It is so crazy what they're doing, and they're doing it on you know, Samsung 4K video on a cell phone.

02:31:57.000 And kids can see it.

02:31:58.000 Anybody can see it.

02:31:59.000 My kids saw the Charlie Kirk assassination.

02:32:01.000 Bro, you know, it's like uh I didn't want to see it, and then someone sent it to me.

02:32:06.000 I think Tom sent it to me, actually.

02:32:07.000 Yeah.

02:32:08.000 And I'm like, all right, let me see.

02:32:09.000 And then I watched, I was like, oh God.

02:32:12.000 But that's yeah, that's the that's the tricky thing right now is because I think that like as far as we've been comedians, there's been like a clear path of how to make it.

02:32:20.000 It didn't mean that it was accessible to everybody, but like when you're growing up, I'm sure it's like get an HBO special.

02:32:26.000 When I'm coming up, it was HBO, and then it transitioned to come on the Joe Rogan podcast.

02:32:32.000 And that was the thing.

02:32:33.000 And did it mean every single comedian that came on here became a millionaire?

02:32:37.000 No.

02:32:38.000 But a lot fucking did.

02:32:40.000 You gotta look.

02:32:40.000 You gotta look and you got an audience that was interested and curious and like.

02:32:45.000 If you were legit, if you were Shane Gillis, if you were you, if you were Ari Shafir, whatever it was, you popped off.

02:32:52.000 And we saw it like instantaneously.

02:32:54.000 It was like you come on and then your podcast would go number one afterwards.

02:32:57.000 Like you remember this, right?

02:32:58.000 And it was like, okay, so then comics were like, okay, wow, there's a pathway forward.

02:33:02.000 And then like the clip economy and the YouTube specials and these things start happening, and then people are like, okay, I do that.

02:33:07.000 That's how I go pop in.

02:33:09.000 Then Kill Tony erupts, and it's like, oh shit, if I can get a spot on Kill Tony, then I can make it.

02:33:14.000 And I think that like now people are going, okay.

02:33:18.000 I I might not be the right fit for Kill Tony because the character based things really explode more than like, say a traditional comic.

02:33:25.000 It's like, okay, I don't do that.

02:33:26.000 It's like, I don't know how I can even get on Joe.

02:33:28.000 And if I do get on Joe, can I be on enough for the audience?

02:33:31.000 We'll see it.

02:33:31.000 I put a YouTube special out, but like it seems like there's a hundreds of YouTube specials out, so it's like I don't know if that's gonna be the thing that breaks me.

02:33:38.000 So I think that the younger comics are kind of experiencing this thing where they're like, I don't know the pathway forward.

02:33:44.000 And someone's gonna invent some shit.

02:33:45.000 Someone's gonna do the thing that I did that you did where you just try something new and then it catches on and fucking that dominates what it is. 0.84

02:33:52.000 But like I think they're in this pi this period where like I don't know what to do.

02:33:56.000 And when you don't know what to do and you're not where you want to be, that's where I think the bitterness starts to come out.

02:34:02.000 Well, you also don't know what the path forward is and if it there it's ever gonna arrive for you, or if you're just gonna be like on the outside forever.

02:34:09.000 So you're toiling in obscurity, and then you're just and then you start to feel resentful.

02:34:12.000 And you start to feel angry.

02:34:13.000 Before you might feel resentful and angry, but you're like, you know what, there might be a chance Joe could see me, he'll bring me on his podcast, and then I can have all this fucking success.

02:34:20.000 And it's like so I do empathize with that like anger, but the knee-jerk reaction to just shit on everything and try to shit on the scene and like shit on Austin or like shit on these things.

02:34:33.000 I I don't think they realize that that's not gonna get them any closer.

02:34:37.000 It will get him like immediate attention.

02:34:39.000 A bunch of their comedian friends around them are gonna click and like and do these things, but it's not gonna be that long-term sustained career.

02:34:45.000 You don't build a fan base by going, I don't like that place.

02:34:49.000 You also alienate the newest scene in the world.

02:34:52.000 You alienate people who actually help you.

02:34:53.000 This is the thing.

02:34:58.000 But that I mean, that's the internet, right?

02:34:59.000 It's like that's the crazy thing.

02:35:00.000 It's like you have to say you have to have an N-word joke, you have to ha you know, you have to go on and have a trans joke. 0.96

02:35:06.000 And and this is just the same thing.

02:35:08.000 It's be you know what the problem is, it's a walled garden.

02:35:11.000 Uh, Austin is a walled garden.

02:35:13.000 Like if you're on the outside, you see all these people having so much fun in the garden, you're like, you I can't even I'm not even in there.

02:35:18.000 Fuck those people.

02:35:20.000 It's not.

02:35:20.000 It's not, but it's an appearance of a walled garden.

02:35:22.000 And then I think that there's like people on another level up that we were saying earlier that are like seeing these like people talk shit about it, and they're getting concerned that it could like negatively impact them in a way.

02:35:22.000 Exactly.

02:35:33.000 So they're doing this like it's it's the most pussy shit. 1.00

02:35:36.000 They're like trying to create a little distance.

02:35:38.000 Not too much where they can't call you and say, hey, I gotta I gotta do it.

02:35:41.000 Oh, you mean Andrew Santino?

02:35:42.000 Yeah, like not too much, where it's like, oh, I'd like to come on your pot, but I'll have a guy who's gonna shit on you for the whole fucking episode and not give you pushback. 0.86

02:35:48.000 It's like and it's not just him, like I've seen other people do it, and it's just like, dude, dude, dude, you're gonna go through some cancel shit later, all these guys.

02:35:54.000 They're gonna go through something later.

02:35:56.000 And they had a guy that they could call that would bring them on the biggest platform platform in the world and let them explain themselves, have their back.

02:36:04.000 Like, you will do it.

02:36:05.000 Well, I would still do that with Santina.

02:36:06.000 You of course you would.

02:36:07.000 That's your boy.

02:36:08.000 That's your boy.

02:36:08.000 I love him.

02:36:09.000 He's a fucking amazing hang.

02:36:10.000 That was a bad move.

02:36:11.000 That was a bad move, in my opinion.

02:36:13.000 He felt like, look, Mark is irrelevant and he's yelling these things out, like, let him rant.

02:36:18.000 Everyone's gonna know what he's doing.

02:36:20.000 But I don't think everybody on the outside does.

02:36:23.000 Because they don't know comedy.

02:36:24.000 They don't know the business.

02:36:25.000 And it looks like you're co-signing it all.

02:36:26.000 And it looks like that you're okay with this.

02:36:28.000 And like I'm fine with you having him on.

02:36:30.000 Like, I would have Marin on, but we're gonna go at it.

02:36:32.000 Like Akaj calls him out.

02:36:34.000 Akash calls him out every single episode.

02:36:35.000 He's just like, come on, you pussy, let's talk about it. 1.00

02:36:37.000 Yeah, you ain't shit.

02:36:38.000 Yeah, so it's like it's like but it's like, yeah, but also defend your boy.

02:36:42.000 And that's also important because at at a baseline, people don't want to see people abandon their friends at like a baseline human thing.

02:36:52.000 Right.

02:36:53.000 Even if you got your friend's back when he's going through some shit, even if you disagree with that person did, like baseline human, you go, Yeah.

02:36:59.000 I kind of would want that guy as a friend.

02:37:01.000 There was a video of Trump on Letterman when uh I think it's Letterman, I'm pretty sure it's Letterman.

02:37:07.000 Trump when uh Mike Tyson got convicted.

02:37:11.000 And bro, it's like the most unpopular opinion in the world.

02:37:15.000 He goes, I think is his attorneys were terrible.

02:37:18.000 They had the worst defense I've ever heard in my life.

02:37:20.000 This girl came up to his room at 1 a.m.

02:37:23.000 They said she was dancing a few hours later, she was hanging out with people, having a good time.

02:37:28.000 She came over, took off her panty shield in the in his bathroom. 1.00

02:37:32.000 Like and she'd also accused someone of rape uh that wasn't that was unjustly accused of rape. 0.93

02:37:38.000 So she'd done it before.

02:37:39.000 She had done the same thing before.

02:37:42.000 You know, I don't know what the fuck happened there.

02:37:43.000 Obviously, but that was his boy, and he defended his boys.

02:37:47.000 Look, we don't know.

02:37:48.000 We don't know what happened.

02:37:49.000 And he said it on letterband.

02:37:50.000 I respect that shit.

02:37:51.000 And he was like, whoa, and but a lot of people in the comments did too.

02:37:53.000 Like, wow.

02:37:54.000 And Tyson got his back, you know that.

02:37:55.000 Yeah.

02:37:55.000 Like they've talked to Tyson decades later.

02:37:57.000 Always has.

02:37:58.000 Yeah, it's i yeah, it's a different I don't know.

02:38:01.000 To me, I'm like, I thought this is normal.

02:38:03.000 Like I thought this is because you're a man.

02:38:06.000 That's the thing.

02:38:06.000 I don't know.

02:38:07.000 There's a lot of these people that are like a salamander that's never gone through its final developmental changes, and they're they s they're stuck in like an adolescent stage of evolution forever.

02:38:16.000 There's there's there's men that are like that.

02:38:16.000 Yeah.

02:38:19.000 But that are, you know.

02:38:20.000 I don't know.

02:38:21.000 And maybe it's because I like know guys like you and like Charlemagne who like I see them going through shit, and I see people like will try to like get me to talk to it's like it ain't gonna happen.

02:38:30.000 Yeah.

02:38:31.000 Like I know these people as human beings.

02:38:33.000 You know a 30 second TikTok of them.

02:38:35.000 So if you want to have that conversation, we're gonna have it, but like you're not gonna like the way it goes because these people are my friends, like real friends.

02:38:41.000 Right.

02:38:42.000 Not like colleagues.

02:38:43.000 There are people who we're colleagues with.

02:38:45.000 Right.

02:38:45.000 But like my real friends, you guys are at my wedding.

02:38:48.000 Right.

02:38:48.000 And you've been in my way, like my wedding wasn't like a comedy hangout.

02:38:51.000 Right.

02:38:52.000 It was people who I'm close to, you know what I mean?

02:38:55.000 Like by the way, it's like one of the only weddings I've ever been to.

02:38:57.000 And I respected that.

02:38:58.000 Took a COVID test.

02:39:00.000 Took a COVID test.

02:39:02.000 You were so upset about it too, you're like, here, bitch. 1.00

02:39:06.000 You're like, I'm free of it, bitch. 1.00

02:39:08.000 I was already over.

02:39:09.000 Well, that I don't even know if I had been.

02:39:11.000 I don't think you got the beginning of being canceled for about the COVID stuff.

02:39:15.000 I was like, it was just starting.

02:39:16.000 Can I pee real quick?

02:39:16.000 Yeah.

02:39:18.000 Let's pee.

02:39:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:39:19.000 We're back.

02:39:20.000 Um when Tony got into it when the first one with uh the Asian thing, uh, when he got into that.

02:39:26.000 He was people didn't know the he was totally not always he set up, um, people don't know the full context of it.

02:39:32.000 This guy did this whole set of like it was like real bad comedy, and it was uh why do you hate Asians?

02:39:39.000 Everybody hates Asians, and so Tony gets up and makes fun of him for being Chinese afterwards.

02:39:45.000 They take that, they run with it.

02:39:47.000 Tony fortunately had a video of that guy's set and released it along with his full set.

02:39:53.000 Well, you see, this is just what he does.

02:39:55.000 He's just fucking around and then he kills.

02:39:57.000 He kills for the entire set, and he released that and then the cancellation basically died off.

02:40:02.000 But when he was going through it, man, I I was really worried about him.

02:40:07.000 Like genuinely worried about him.

02:40:08.000 He thought his life was over.

02:40:09.000 He had never experienced anything like that before.

02:40:12.000 And then I took him with me to Salt Lake City.

02:40:12.000 Yeah.

02:40:14.000 And it was only God, I guess a week and a half.

02:40:20.000 He took off one weekend.

02:40:22.000 We did a uh show in Houston, and he's like, I just I don't think I can go on stage.

02:40:26.000 I was like, just take this weekend off.

02:40:27.000 I'm I'm gonna pay you anyway.

02:40:28.000 I'll go, I'll pay you, just relax, and then we'll do Salt Lake City.

02:40:32.000 I just just I know you're going through it.

02:40:32.000 Right.

02:40:34.000 Just get so then he went on stage one night at the Vulcan, he's like, dude, I think I could do it.

02:40:38.000 I'm back, I'm back.

02:40:39.000 And so then people didn't know that he was gonna be with me in Salt Lake City.

02:40:43.000 So we're in the back of the room, and I announce the opening act.

02:40:48.000 And I said, ladies and gentlemen, one of my best friends, Tony Henchcliffe, and they went, Yeah, they stood up, arms raised, like, fuck yeah.

02:40:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:40:58.000 It was part of it was because I was supporting him.

02:41:00.000 He was going through it was public, it was in the middle of everything, and the he went up and destroyed the love that he got from those people, and then he went and just ran with it.

02:41:12.000 And he had material on it, he was already talking about it, and it's just uh it was beautiful, but it was beautiful to watch him realize like, oh, I'm gonna be okay.

02:41:23.000 The internet is not reality.

02:41:25.000 And he had that moment in real time.

02:41:25.000 Right.

02:41:27.000 But he also had you having his back.

02:41:28.000 Like that's the and I think people see that also.

02:41:31.000 Like I think there's people in the crowd that see that, and I think on a primal level, they go, Man, if I got caught up in some fuck shit, I would really like it if my friend had my back.

02:41:40.000 Yeah.

02:41:40.000 If people were saying things about me that my friends know were false, and they use their platforms to talk or you know, put me on or whatever it is.

02:41:49.000 I think deep down viscerally they go, Oh, that's a good guy.

02:41:52.000 You gotta try to like help people you know, I tried to get Steve Renazizi on when that 9 11 stuff happened, yeah, and he decided to go on Stern instead.

02:42:03.000 And I was like, okay, but I'm telling you, I if I have you on, I can navigate it a little more compassionately.

02:42:03.000 Yeah.

02:42:13.000 But I don't think at the time he understood where podcasts were versus where Stern was at the time.

02:42:21.000 Stern was still stern in his eyes, but it wasn't stern in terms of like the reach.

02:42:25.000 Yeah.

02:42:26.000 And even if it was, he's not gonna handle you the same way I'm gonna handle you.

02:42:30.000 Yeah.

02:42:30.000 Like I'm gonna give you all the room in the world.

02:42:36.000 And I'm gonna put myself in a position where I can imagine if I made up a story and then I got stuck with it.

02:42:42.000 Like, oh no.

02:42:44.000 You know, and what is the way forward with that?

02:42:47.000 Well, I guess the way forward, he eventually had to address it and talk about it on stage, and you know, but you you can help people.

02:42:57.000 You could really it really does work.

02:42:59.000 If you have a platform and someone's going through something, like you really can save their their world.

02:43:05.000 You can.

02:43:06.000 You can.

02:43:07.000 Especially if you show that you have support and you love them and you talk about it and talk about what a great person they are.

02:43:11.000 Like Tony's one of my favorite people ever.

02:43:13.000 Yeah, Tony's great, man.

02:43:14.000 And like I he has this massive thing, and naturally we wanna pick at the people that are incredibly successful.

02:43:22.000 It's just like human nature, fucking Taylor Swift gets it.

02:43:24.000 You know what I mean?

02:43:25.000 Like bro, here's the thing.

02:43:26.000 Yeah, Kill Tony wasn't that big back then.

02:43:29.000 That's the problem.

02:43:30.000 No, back then, I'm saying even now.

02:43:32.000 Yeah, but now, well well, the thing is the second cancellation, like after he did the Puerto Rico thing.

02:43:37.000 Yeah, he was already ready.

02:43:37.000 Yeah, the Puerto Rico thing.

02:43:38.000 He's like, I've been through this fucking storm before.

02:43:40.000 I'm just gonna tie down these sails and ride this motherfucker out.

02:43:47.000 But if he hadn't been through that, that would have been even more devastating because then you're getting canceled by CNN and New York Times and you know they had stories pre-written, ready to go, blaming the loss of Trump on Tony Hinchcliffe.

02:44:02.000 And then the Latino went vote went up by 15%.

02:44:05.000 He said Tony said the first night he slept was the night that I endorsed Trump.

02:44:11.000 For real.

02:44:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:44:13.000 And he he literally said, dude, that was the first night.

02:44:15.000 He goes, I think it's gonna be okay now.

02:44:17.000 Wow.

02:44:18.000 Which is crazy.

02:44:19.000 because that's part of the reasons why I did it.

02:44:21.000 We're going to get Tony out of here.

02:44:23.000 Save his life.

02:44:24.000 We're going to protect Tony.

02:44:26.000 Yeah, if you didn't get it, he didn't even need to.

02:44:29.000 The Puerto Ricans were like, we got this. 1.00

02:44:30.000 Yeah, well, Puerto Ricans take a joke better than anybody on the planet. 1.00

02:44:33.000 This is a great shit talking community.

02:44:36.000 It's they talk shit to each other.

02:44:37.000 It's part of the stuff.

02:44:39.000 They're not gonna be sensitive about anything.

02:44:40.000 Now, what I would have told Zoni and like what I said to him is like, I wish you had told me like what the set is, because like New Yorkers have this idea of Puerto Rico as this like beautiful Caribbean island.

02:44:49.000 It's like our first vacation in New York when we go to a fancy place, it's Puerto Rico.

02:44:53.000 So I think when he was connecting it to the the the island of garbage, which I knew where he's going.

02:44:59.000 There was like a island of garbage floating in the Pacific Atlantic or the Pacific, Pacific Garbage Pass.

02:45:06.000 So it was actually he was bringing it to something that was a popular story like a year or two ago.

02:45:11.000 But New Yorkers don't know what the fuck is floating.

02:45:13.000 You know what I mean?

02:45:14.000 Like we're just like, yo, Puerto Rico's So I think that they were just like, oh, that was weird.

02:45:17.000 We don't see Puerto Rico in that way.

02:45:19.000 Well, you know, not necessarily because that joke murders when he did it at Madison Square Garden when he was opening for me.

02:45:26.000 Oh, really?

02:45:27.000 Fucking murdered.

02:45:28.000 Okay, fair enough.

02:45:29.000 Murdered.

02:45:29.000 Because it's just a joke.

02:45:31.000 But the thing is, it's just a joke.

02:45:32.000 But it's also Puerto Rico, if you don't know, has a massive garbage problem.

02:45:37.000 Because they have a landfill issue because they don't have much land.

02:45:37.000 Oh, I didn't know.

02:45:40.000 It's like all these fucking tourists coming over there with their fucking water bottles.

02:45:44.000 I mean, and they got a huge hole in the ground that's overflowing with trash.

02:45:48.000 At the end of the day, it's a fucking joke.

02:45:50.000 It's a joke.

02:45:51.000 It's a joke.

02:45:51.000 It's not a joke he should have done there.

02:45:53.000 That's the thing.

02:45:54.000 If he was running that joke by me, I'd be like, no.

02:45:57.000 It's not the one.

02:45:58.000 Or there's a different place that you could use that might be.

02:45:58.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:46:01.000 I told him not to do it, period.

02:46:03.000 I was like, there's no upside to this.

02:46:03.000 Yeah.

02:46:05.000 This is a it's not gonna be a comedy crowd.

02:46:05.000 Yeah.

02:46:08.000 And meanwhile, he goes on after some guy has got this crazy we're gonna take back America.

02:46:13.000 Even doing comedy in that environment is is like the trickiest thing.

02:46:13.000 That's the thing.

02:46:17.000 And like I do think like in general, like us just having politicians on and like even going to the rally or way, where it's like I think what's happened is that we've politicized ourselves and like we've brought ourselves into the game of politics, Which is the ugliest game.

02:46:32.000 Yeah.

02:46:32.000 Like it is the ugliest game.

02:46:35.000 Because it's that zero sum shit we were saying earlier.

02:46:36.000 It's just like this is people really believe it's life or death.

02:46:39.000 Uh huh.

02:46:40.000 Dude, I was pushing my my daughter in a stroller, right?

02:46:43.000 And uh a lady goes, Hey, this is in New York. 0.69

02:46:45.000 She goes, Hey, didn't you have Trump on your podcast?

02:46:47.000 And I was like, I already know it's gone.

02:46:49.000 I'm like, I'm like, Yeah, yeah.

02:46:50.000 He was yeah, he was on a podcast.

02:46:51.000 And she's like, uh, well, I hope your daughter has a good life.

02:46:55.000 I'm like, bitch, you live in Tribeca. 0.99

02:46:58.000 You know what I mean?

02:46:59.000 Like, like, what do you think is happening over here?

02:47:02.000 Your husband works for fucking Goldman.

02:47:04.000 You know what I mean?

02:47:04.000 Like, what do you think he's voting for?

02:47:06.000 But like that type of vitriolic hate to a stranger on the street.

02:47:11.000 What'd you say to her?

02:47:12.000 I said, uh, I go, uh, I go, Oh, do you have a daughter?

02:47:16.000 Because she just looked lonely, and I really wanted her to be like, no, and then I was just gonna lower the fucking boom.

02:47:23.000 And then she was like, Yeah, I have two.

02:47:24.000 And I was like, okay, well, I hope they have good lives.

02:47:27.000 Sorry.

02:47:34.000 She outcrowd worked me. 1.00

02:47:38.000 Yeah.

02:47:38.000 But I was like, show like I was like in shock.

02:47:40.000 Like, I'm like, with like there's a I'm with a child.

02:47:42.000 Like, why are you talking to me in the street?

02:47:44.000 Like I saw a video of a lady getting out of a cyber truck in New Jersey, and some woman yelled at Are You Fucking Racist, you racist?

02:47:50.000 She's like, What?

02:47:51.000 Yeah.

02:47:51.000 Somebody just gave me a ride.

02:47:55.000 No, it's like she was got a ride from somebody out of cyber truck.

02:47:58.000 And she got out of the car.

02:47:59.000 Oh, yeah.

02:48:00.000 And you know, and some lady started calling her a racist. 1.00

02:48:02.000 Yeah, so out of nowhere.

02:48:03.000 There's insane people.

02:48:05.000 Oh, yeah.

02:48:05.000 There's like, and someone always been here, and they're even more rooted in their insanity because it's rewarded every time they go on their phone.

02:48:14.000 Yes.

02:48:15.000 Like their crazy opinions are just like, yeah, you're right about that opinion.

02:48:18.000 Here's evidence.

02:48:19.000 Yeah.

02:48:19.000 30 seconds at a time.

02:48:20.000 And they're dumb, so they don't realize what it's doing to them.

02:48:22.000 So they're on that fucking shit all day long getting aggravated.

02:48:25.000 And they're desperate for community.

02:48:26.000 Uh-huh.

02:48:27.000 Their whole identity is this community.

02:48:28.000 God forbid they have an a dissenting opinion.

02:48:31.000 All of a sudden that community is going to ostracize them.

02:48:33.000 Yeah.

02:48:33.000 It's literally what happened to like Ezra.

02:48:35.000 Like Ezra's actually trying to have real conversations.

02:48:37.000 Like he believes in what Democrats can do and think that they're the best for government.

02:48:40.000 And he's like, How can we make this happen?

02:48:42.000 And then there are people that would be like his biggest supporters.

02:48:46.000 The second he moves a little bit away, it's I can't believe he's turned into a right wing grifter.

02:48:52.000 They talk calling Ezra Klein a right wing grifter.

02:48:57.000 Or Elon Musk, a fuck with.

02:48:57.000 Yeah.

02:49:00.000 Yeah, it's the same thing.

02:49:01.000 You you're never gonna make everybody happy.

02:49:04.000 And as your profile increases, the number of ignorant people that are paying attention and commenting on you increases.

02:49:11.000 It is and so it's that's a great point.

02:49:11.000 Yes.

02:49:14.000 It's like yeah, it's like the percentage doesn't change, but the amount changes drastically because you have so many more people watching.

02:49:22.000 Well, especially if there's an event.

02:49:23.000 Like if you had Trump on the podcast, that's the event, and then ignorant people just start yapping out their opinion.

02:49:30.000 The funniest thing is, and I want them to have opinions.

02:49:31.000 No, you guys think it's a beautiful thing.

02:49:33.000 I'll never tell anybody not to say anything.

02:49:34.000 But like the funniest thing about the Trump pot is that like initially it was Kamala's campaign and the Democrats like loving the interview.

02:49:43.000 Because Trump said that thing.

02:49:45.000 It was a really fascinating thing to happen because both sides were going, Oh, this is awesome.

02:49:48.000 And I was like, Holy shit.

02:49:49.000 Like, what did he say?

02:49:50.000 He goes, uh he says one of the funniest things ever, you guys uh he goes, I'm basically an honest person.

02:49:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:50:00.000 And then he says it to me and I just laugh because I'm like, that's it.

02:50:04.000 I laugh for a few reasons.

02:50:05.000 Like, one, I laugh because it's a hilarious thing to say.

02:50:07.000 It's very but two, it's like actually the most honest thing to say.

02:50:12.000 Like if I'm deconstructing it, it's like anybody who goes, I've never told a lie, you're like, you're a fucking liar.

02:50:18.000 You just told one.

02:50:18.000 But saying you're basically honest is like, yeah, I pretty much mostly tell the truth.

02:50:23.000 Yeah.

02:50:23.000 You know, sometimes I say Melania looks skinnier than she does.

02:50:26.000 You know, whatever the fuck every husband's but like it's I don't know, it was just the funniest thing.

02:50:32.000 Or the Epstein files is a hoax.

02:50:33.000 Bro, the fucking Epstein thing is just nothing but a hoax.

02:50:37.000 It's just it's just I I don't even understand.

02:50:41.000 I don't get it.

02:50:42.000 I don't get it.

02:50:43.000 It's it is the easiest political victory.

02:50:46.000 Like if you if you just it is what it isn't.

02:50:48.000 Here's the thing.

02:50:49.000 Yeah.

02:50:49.000 Um I'm not supporting anything, just be really clear, ladies and gentlemen.

02:50:54.000 Um but if you are if you have relationships with all these insanely wealthy people that are gonna be hurt by this fairly impacted by this.

02:51:05.000 Like this is the ultimate political football.

02:51:09.000 Because uh I don't know what the numbers are, I don't know who the people are, but I've heard things, and if those things are true, you're dealing with some of the most powerful people in the world, some of the wealthiest people in the world.

02:51:21.000 They gotta go down.

02:51:22.000 Yeah, well, it depends on what they did, right?

02:51:24.000 It's like, did you go over there and have sex with a 24-year-old and do coke?

02:51:27.000 Or did you go totally fine?

02:51:29.000 Or did you go over there?

02:51:29.000 Right.

02:51:30.000 But here Wouldn't you want that out?

02:51:31.000 I would want that out.

02:51:32.000 If like you're gonna be able to do that.

02:51:33.000 Yeah, but they would you wouldn't want that out because like how do you you're connected to pedophilia?

02:51:38.000 What no matter what?

02:51:39.000 Oh, right, because you're like Epstein's Island.

02:51:41.000 She was 24, and then someone's gonna go, Well, did you ideer?

02:51:43.000 And you're like, Well, no, I didn't idea.

02:51:45.000 I did you see underage girls? 0.98

02:51:48.000 Were you there?

02:51:48.000 Are you complicit?

02:51:49.000 So you don't want to even be around it.

02:51:51.000 Right.

02:51:51.000 Well, you can't be around it.

02:51:52.000 I mean, the guy 100% had sexual relationships with under sh underage girls in at least in Florida.

02:51:59.000 Convicted.

02:52:00.000 And convicted.

02:52:01.000 Yeah.

02:52:01.000 And so that and you knew that when you were meeting him.

02:52:05.000 That's the Bill Gates thing that's the craziest.

02:52:07.000 I don't really Stephanopoulos guy.

02:52:09.000 Like a bunch of them went over there.

02:52:11.000 A lot of people went over there.

02:52:12.000 A lot of a lot of scientists went over there.

02:52:14.000 And I think those guys thought they were going over there for this beautiful place where you can go.

02:52:18.000 This guy's donating money to science.

02:52:20.000 You're hanging out with movie stars, this intellectual discourse.

02:52:23.000 So tell me about string theory.

02:52:24.000 Yeah.

02:52:25.000 Well, it's really fascinating.

02:52:26.000 One things we've learned, and you're having cocktails, like this place is great.

02:52:29.000 And then you can get your dick sucked. 0.96

02:52:31.000 It's like a Diddy party for nerds.

02:52:33.000 Exactly.

02:52:34.000 But a lot of people went to those parties.

02:52:34.000 Exactly.

02:52:36.000 I don't want to say uh Asana Mahd's joke, but I don't want to say a joke.

02:52:36.000 Yeah.

02:52:40.000 I don't want to ruin his joke.

02:52:42.000 Assan's great.

02:52:42.000 Shout out to San Man.

02:52:43.000 He's got a great joke that compares it to Diddy.

02:52:46.000 He's filming a special son too.

02:52:48.000 Yes, he is.

02:52:48.000 I'm very excited about it.

02:52:50.000 This weekend.

02:52:50.000 Oh, really?

02:52:51.000 So this coming.

02:52:52.000 This upcoming weekend at the mothership.

02:52:54.000 No, it's at the Black Rabbit.

02:52:54.000 No, no, no.

02:52:56.000 Black Rabbit.

02:52:56.000 So make sure you guys go check that out.

02:52:58.000 He is great.

02:52:59.000 And he that guy works hard.

02:53:00.000 I've known him since he was a door man at the comedy store.

02:53:03.000 Yeah.

02:53:03.000 Yeah, him and Derek do the solid show together.

02:53:05.000 Yep.

02:53:06.000 So I got to know Asan.

02:53:06.000 Yeah.

02:53:08.000 No, Asan's great, man.

02:53:09.000 We have a great pod, man.

02:53:10.000 Super smart dude, too.

02:53:11.000 But yeah, that's a very interesting guy.

02:53:12.000 Great green room hang.

02:53:14.000 That's yeah.

02:53:15.000 That's the other thing.

02:53:16.000 It's like uh just being able to hang.

02:53:20.000 Just being able to fucking hang.

02:53:22.000 Is like people think about like, oh, what are all these competitive advantages?

02:53:25.000 How do you do this, that the other?

02:53:26.000 It's just like, can you fucking hang out?

02:53:28.000 Right.

02:53:28.000 Can you sit down on a couch and can we bust balls?

02:53:31.000 Are we fun?

02:53:32.000 It's that easy.

02:53:33.000 Are you fun?

02:53:33.000 Yeah.

02:53:33.000 Are you easy?

02:53:34.000 Are you a happy person?

02:53:36.000 Are you good to get along with?

02:53:37.000 That makes it so easy.

02:53:37.000 Yeah.

02:53:38.000 Yeah.

02:53:39.000 It's like it's like simple things that you learn in high school.

02:53:45.000 Have you ever had experience where like there's a guy who's a fun hang and you haven't seen him on stage yet?

02:53:48.000 And you're like, I hope he's funny.

02:53:49.000 Yeah.

02:53:52.000 Oh, there's some bad examples of that at the comedy store where I saw someone set.

02:53:55.000 I was like, oh no.

02:53:57.000 I can't be friends with you.

02:53:58.000 Like this is too Fitzsimmons and I were laughing about that once.

02:54:01.000 We saw this person go on stage and then afterwards we went into the back parking lot, and Greg's like, Well, I can't be friends with them anymore.

02:54:10.000 Greg cracks me the fuck up, dude.

02:54:12.000 Is Greg from Boston?

02:54:13.000 He's a bossy guy, right?

02:54:15.000 We started out together like within a week of each other.

02:54:17.000 Yeah.

02:54:18.000 It's all right.

02:54:18.000 I've been friends with that dude for like 35 fucking years.

02:54:21.000 Maybe more.

02:54:22.000 Yeah, Greg is.

02:54:23.000 Greg's still in LA, right?

02:54:25.000 Yes.

02:54:25.000 Unfortunately.

02:54:26.000 Dude, Greg was there when I fucking I did some like I did.

02:54:31.000 It was like a halfway house show or something like that.

02:54:33.000 I don't know.

02:54:33.000 I was just at the store and they and they just asked me, I was like, Do you want to pop on this one?

02:54:37.000 And it was like Greg's Joey, and I was like, Yeah, sure, I'll go do it.

02:54:42.000 And I did it, and I was doing these like um I did some down syndrome, but it was kind of like long, to be honest with you.

02:54:48.000 Oh, that was the down syndrome group.

02:54:51.000 I had no clue because they told me half house.

02:54:53.000 So I was like, oh, it's guys who are like drug ex alcoholics.

02:54:55.000 Yeah.

02:54:55.000 And I did like a long bit about it, and it what didn't go great.

02:54:59.000 Like everything was kind of good up until that moment, and then it kind of went south, and I was like, oh, that was weird.

02:55:04.000 And I guess I was saying Joey's like waiting there, or Greg, I figured which other way they're like, what the hell are you doing?

02:55:09.000 And I was like, I don't know.

02:55:10.000 Like I thought it was going well, and then it just kind of tanked.

02:55:12.000 He's like, Yeah, because it's all of them.

02:55:14.000 They're out there.

02:55:16.000 This is like a charity show or a benefit for it.

02:55:18.000 It's like you gotta let me know that.

02:55:20.000 Yeah, you should let people know that.

02:55:22.000 I I had a very similar thing happen.

02:55:24.000 I had a bit about how like there's certain words that are offensive, but wouldn't it be better if instead of like banning these words, if like the government issued like retard tags, like hunting tags, like you get five a year, you just gotta know when to use them. 0.85

02:55:41.000 You know, and these people were just This is fascism.

02:55:45.000 Government quotas.

02:55:49.000 But I would be like, you do not want to go outside on December 31st with all the retard tags are going because everybody's got three extra retard tags they gotta use. 1.00

02:55:58.000 We gotta use them.

02:55:59.000 Can't let these things go to ways.

02:56:00.000 They don't roll over.

02:56:01.000 But I did it there, and people are like, oh I was like, what?

02:56:04.000 What's wrong?

02:56:04.000 Yeah.

02:56:05.000 And then afterwards they told me, I was like, how about a heads up?

02:56:08.000 Oh wait, you did it also last how many of these benefits?

02:56:12.000 It takes a lot of money to fair enough.

02:56:14.000 You know?

02:56:15.000 Yeah.

02:56:16.000 It's uh an education thing.

02:56:17.000 But uh I fucked up too, same thing.

02:56:20.000 Then I was like, oh, why didn't you tell me?

02:56:22.000 I felt something in the I felt it.

02:56:24.000 Bro, I felt it.

02:56:25.000 It was like it just went south.

02:56:27.000 And the look was like, does he not know?

02:56:30.000 I think they thought that I didn't I don't think they thought I was being edgy.

02:56:33.000 They thought you didn't know.

02:56:34.000 They were like, oh, he doesn't know.

02:56:36.000 Right, right, right.

02:56:37.000 You know?

02:56:37.000 And so they're like, they have a sour, like, oh no, he doesn't know.

02:56:40.000 It's like if somebody was talking to someone in the crowd before and everybody knows about that person, and then you're doing something completely unrelated, and they're like, Oh yeah.

02:56:47.000 He doesn't know that like she just lost her husband.

02:56:50.000 Yeah.

02:56:51.000 I'm just doing my five-minute widow bit.

02:56:53.000 Oh yeah, but that's the fun stuff.

02:56:57.000 Yeah.

02:56:57.000 That's what that's what Charlamagne loves.

02:57:00.000 He's just so he's like at his core, he's like a real like comedian at his core.

02:57:04.000 Like to the point like he he'll love bombing, like box watching people bomb, he like really likes that.

02:57:09.000 He think it's I think it's like a full emotion to him.

02:57:11.000 And uh so at the end of the the show in Read, we brought Alex Media who's on the show, and he had to do one joke in front of everybody, and like the joke is pretty good.

02:57:20.000 Alex is a black dude, and he's like, you know, it's cool to be here, you know.

02:57:23.000 I'll be honest, like I see these outfits, and uh it's the only time I'm surrounded by guys in uh in white sheets that I don't feel like they're gonna kill me, or something like that.

02:57:31.000 Like some little cutesy joke, and then uh Charlamagne goes, Nah, bro, like they're treating you like the autistic kid that gets it going in the fourth quarter.

02:57:41.000 The ball boy for the That joke wasn't it, bro.

02:57:44.000 He's like uh uh uh they think that you have autism and they're giving you a shot at the end of the season.

02:57:50.000 Uh that's funny.

02:57:52.000 That's funny.

02:57:53.000 Yeah, he's a funny dude.

02:57:55.000 There's a lot of funny people that don't get into comedy.

02:57:57.000 I've known quite a few that are like, man, you're really a comedian, and you never really got after it.

02:57:57.000 It's interesting.

02:58:03.000 You know, there's a bunch of people like that.

02:58:04.000 I used to work for a guy who was a private investigator, yeah, was the funniest fucking dude I had ever been around in my life.

02:58:10.000 Yeah, and I was trying to be a comedian at the time.

02:58:12.000 I was an open micer, I was 21.

02:58:14.000 Yeah, and uh his name was Dick Dolan.

02:58:16.000 Dave Dolan, rather.

02:58:18.000 He called he'd call himself Dynamite Dickless Dave Dolan.

02:58:20.000 That was his name.

02:58:21.000 He's a di whenever I have a mess, I have a phone that I kept. 1.00

02:58:25.000 It's uh an iPhone like 10 or some shit like that.

02:58:29.000 And I kept that phone just because I have a voicemail on there from him before he died.

02:58:33.000 He's like, Joe Rogan, it's Dynamite Dickless Dave Dolan.

02:58:33.000 Yeah.

02:58:38.000 How you doing, buddy?

02:58:39.000 And like he was just a funny fucking dude.

02:58:42.000 He was hilarious.

02:58:43.000 And I would uh we would catch mostly people that were uh doing insurance fraud.

02:58:47.000 Oh, as a he was a private investigator, and I I worked for him.

02:58:51.000 And the way I worked as a PI?

02:58:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:58:54.000 Um I was uh looking for a job and uh different things to do to make money while I was doing stand-up.

02:58:59.000 Yeah, and uh he had this ad for it was uh private investigator investigators assistant.

02:59:06.000 I was like, ooh, that sounds exciting.

02:59:08.000 Really, what it was is he lost his license drunk driving, and he needed someone to drive his car around because he still had to work.

02:59:17.000 And so I met him and he was fri or his cousin was Bill Downs, who owned the comedy connection.

02:59:25.000 So he was related, like we didn't Rhode Island?

02:59:28.000 We hit it, no, it was in Boston at the time.

02:59:30.000 Oh and then it eventually went to Fanny Hall, and then now it's the Wilbur Theater.

02:59:34.000 But that was Bill Bloom and Wright eventually bought it from them.

02:59:37.000 But Bill Bill Downs and Paul Barkley were the original owners of the comedy connection.

02:59:43.000 And so I I and I was like, How are you not a comedian?

02:59:47.000 Like you're the funniest fucking guy I know.

02:59:50.000 He was he's not interested.

02:59:52.000 He was just funny.

02:59:53.000 But he would like we would like catch people doing stuff.

02:59:57.000 Most of it is like insurance fraud, but we'd have to like wait for them in front of their house at like four o'clock in the morning for them to get up and have like a fake job.

03:00:04.000 Yeah.

03:00:04.000 Where they were like, pretending to be disabled, uh, I burned my back at work, but really they were roofing somewhere, and we would catch them.

03:00:11.000 Right.

03:00:11.000 And and so we would be just in the car, just me and him, and we would just talk at shit.

03:00:15.000 And he was I would be crying.

03:00:17.000 And I I remember I was dating this girl and I I went over her place afterwards.

03:00:21.000 I was like, this guy is so much funnier than me.

03:00:23.000 And he has no desire to be a comedian.

03:00:25.000 Yeah.

03:00:26.000 It's like it's weird.

03:00:27.000 Like he's a a natural comic.

03:00:30.000 Just funny all the time.

03:00:32.000 Yeah.

03:00:33.000 You know, had this, I don't give a fuck, I'm never getting married.

03:00:36.000 You know, he like always cheated on his girlfriends, didn't care.

03:00:39.000 He let them know.

03:00:42.000 Like, I'm not changing.

03:00:45.000 He acted like a drunk even when he was sober.

03:00:47.000 Even when he was sober, he was like, he kept that whole we're on a bender mentality. 0.92

03:00:47.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.92

03:00:52.000 He just was sober.

03:00:53.000 Yeah.

03:00:54.000 And rode that bitch right into the rocks, rode that fucking boat right into the shore. 1.00

03:00:58.000 God bless him.

03:00:59.000 And then died.

03:01:00.000 Yeah, he he was a fun dude, man.

03:01:00.000 God bless him.

03:01:03.000 Like one of the f most fun people I've ever been friends with in my life.

03:01:06.000 Some of the most naturally funny people, I think, aren't comedians.

03:01:10.000 Yes, a lot.

03:01:11.000 In the hang.

03:01:12.000 And it's a different eye, like when you gotta do it on stage, there's different expectations and it changes thing.

03:01:15.000 But like just in the hang, yeah, they just they're almost like unaware they're funny.

03:01:19.000 They're not even trying to make you laugh.

03:01:19.000 Right.

03:01:21.000 You know, it's just kind of, yeah, it's like an effortless to them.

03:01:21.000 Right.

03:01:24.000 And some of them, you know, that do try to do comedy like that never figure out how to translate it, which is really weird.

03:01:31.000 I think I think it's uh it's almost too easy for them in conversation, so they don't do the work to transition it to stage.

03:01:40.000 Or they have this idea of what they're supposed to be on stage, and it's very different than what they are when they're with their friends.

03:01:46.000 That's the first thing I tell like young comics that ask for advice.

03:01:48.000 I just go, How are you funniest around the people you're most comfortable with?

03:01:51.000 Like, are you telling stories?

03:01:53.000 Are you self-deprecating?

03:01:54.000 Are you kind of roasting?

03:01:55.000 Like the people you're most comfortable with, how are you funny?

03:01:59.000 And that I think is like the easiest way to access like your voice or whatever we call it, and then just add 10 years of trying to figure that out.

03:02:08.000 Yeah.

03:02:09.000 But like you're right.

03:02:09.000 Some people like try to put on a cadence of what they think a stand up will talk about.

03:02:13.000 And it's normal in the beginning, like you're just trying to figure the shit out.

03:02:16.000 You sound like a tell.

03:02:17.000 Like in New York, everybody sound like a tell.

03:02:17.000 Exactly.

03:02:19.000 Yeah.

03:02:19.000 Like when I was coming up, a tell was even the way that they would do act out sounds, it was all versions of a tell.

03:02:24.000 And like naturally, you're gonna gravitate to the best guy in what he's doing.

03:02:28.000 And I'm sure like in LA, everybody was trying to be Dane or something like that.

03:02:31.000 A bunch of guys are trying to be Chappelle, Chappelle, yeah.

03:02:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:02:34.000 And it's like, yeah, that that makes sense.

03:02:36.000 Patrice would say that you're you're his babies.

03:02:39.000 That he's got a I got a bunch of babies out there.

03:02:40.000 Oh, but I mean I was a baby of Patrice for sure.

03:02:43.000 Like I remember seeing him just going like, oh my god, this is this is the highest form.

03:02:47.000 Joey Diaz was the best example of a guy who one day figured it out.

03:02:51.000 Joey Diaz was the funniest guy in the parking lot.

03:02:54.000 Yeah.

03:02:54.000 The funniest.

03:02:55.000 The funniest guy in the hang.

03:02:55.000 Yeah.

03:02:57.000 If you were in the back bar, he was the funniest.

03:02:59.000 He was holding court, everybody was dying, we're falling on the ground laughing.

03:03:03.000 Yeah.

03:03:03.000 When he would get on stage, he would try to be a comedian.

03:03:06.000 Yeah.

03:03:06.000 He would try to like set up punchline, tell a joke, I got a little joke for you.

03:03:10.000 And then one day he gave up.

03:03:13.000 He gave up on being cast in movies.

03:03:16.000 He gave up on the dream of having a sitcom, and he got real fat.

03:03:19.000 Like when I first met Joey, he was built like a linebacker.

03:03:22.000 He was a tank.

03:03:23.000 And he's fresh out of jail.

03:03:24.000 You know, it was a different joke.

03:03:25.000 Jail beef.

03:03:26.000 It was scary Joey.

03:03:27.000 And uh Scary Joey uh gave in to Fat Joey, and then uh Mitzi Shore started calling him Fat Baby, and that's all she would put him on as the on the the lineup.

03:03:27.000 Yeah.

03:03:38.000 It wouldn't be Joey Diaz, it would be Fat Baby.

03:03:40.000 She wanted to call him Fat Baby.

03:03:42.000 Oh, so he would lean into this.

03:03:44.000 She had this idea of changing his name to Fat Baby.

03:03:47.000 You know, she named people.

03:03:47.000 Yeah.

03:03:48.000 Right?

03:03:49.000 No, no.

03:03:49.000 She named Carl Smith.

03:03:51.000 What do you mean?

03:03:52.000 She came up with that name.

03:03:53.000 That's not his real name.

03:03:54.000 His name is Ned.

03:03:54.000 No, it's not his real name.

03:03:55.000 It's like Ned Holeness or something like that.

03:03:58.000 She came up with the idea of him having that name.

03:04:01.000 Yeah.

03:04:01.000 That was part of the whole video of me like exposing him.

03:04:04.000 Yeah.

03:04:05.000 I was like, you're not even Mexican. 1.00

03:04:06.000 And the Mexicans in the crowd were like, what?

03:04:08.000 Yeah.

03:04:09.000 I mean, it's because he's close.

03:04:11.000 Honduran.

03:04:12.000 Half German, half on Duran. 0.95

03:04:12.000 Yeah. 0.95

03:04:13.000 But whatever it is.

03:04:15.000 The thing is, Mitzi named him.

03:04:16.000 Yeah.

03:04:17.000 And so Mitzi would name people.

03:04:18.000 Yeah.

03:04:19.000 And she wanted to name Joey, Fat Baby.

03:04:22.000 And so the old lineups, I got some old lineups from the comedy store, and one of them says Fat Baby.

03:04:27.000 I love it.

03:04:28.000 But when he got fat, dude, he when he started not giving a fuck.

03:04:28.000 I love it.

03:04:33.000 And he would go on stage, all the s I mean, all of a sudden.

03:04:36.000 He went from not having good sets, you know, to kind of maybe it was a pretty good set to destroy.

03:04:43.000 Liberating.

03:04:44.000 Destroy.

03:04:45.000 He was free.

03:04:45.000 Yeah.

03:04:46.000 He got free and he became the guy on stage that he was in the back.

03:04:50.000 It was also around the time where marijuana medical marijuana started like really popping off in LA.

03:04:57.000 So it Joey was on like 500 milligram Shiba Juice.

03:05:02.000 Just obliterate.

03:05:04.000 Obliterated and dosing people on his podcast and ha ha full-on maniac and the absolute best guy to take on the road with you.

03:05:17.000 There was no one better.

03:05:18.000 You take him on the road with you, you guarantee you were having a party everywhere you go.

03:05:23.000 It's a party hanging out at the hotel afterwards.

03:05:26.000 It's a party.

03:05:26.000 Joey Diaz is there.

03:05:27.000 We're having fun.

03:05:29.000 And you know, and they've just figured out how to be that guy on stage, and then he became Joey Diaz.

03:05:34.000 But it was like everybody watched it happen, like, whoa.

03:05:34.000 Yeah.

03:05:37.000 I never seen anybody just figure it out like that.

03:05:39.000 Where like you went from being uh a four or a five to a ten immediately.

03:05:45.000 And to a ten where people are lining up in the back of the room going, What the fuck, man?

03:05:50.000 Holy shit.

03:05:52.000 Did something happen like did something happen culturally where what he was doing was refreshing too?

03:05:58.000 Or do you really think he just changed?

03:06:00.000 He figured it out.

03:06:01.000 He just figured he just didn't, he stopped.

03:06:03.000 I stopped giving a fuck.

03:06:04.000 I stopped giving a fuck of those fucking people.

03:06:04.000 Yeah.

03:06:07.000 Yeah.

03:06:07.000 I was worried about those people.

03:06:08.000 You gotta give me a job.

03:06:09.000 I wanna I want a job.

03:06:10.000 I was a fucking convict.

03:06:11.000 Yeah.

03:06:12.000 I gotta be careful.

03:06:13.000 Yeah.

03:06:13.000 You know, and then all of a sudden he's like, these people ain't giving me shit.

03:06:16.000 Fuck these people.

03:06:17.000 Yeah.

03:06:17.000 You know, and that was like right around the time, ironically, that he did the longest yard.

03:06:21.000 So he got mo started getting movies, started getting all kinds of things.

03:06:25.000 Because he didn't give a fuck anymore.

03:06:26.000 And all of a sudden he was just so funny.

03:06:28.000 That it was undeniable.

03:06:28.000 Yeah.

03:06:29.000 And then when you're undeniable, all those opportunities pop up.

03:06:32.000 That's the other thing.

03:06:33.000 It's like I think there's I sometimes I heard comics talk about like the importance of networking.

03:06:38.000 And I'm like, it's so easy to network when you're funny.

03:06:42.000 Yeah.

03:06:42.000 Like once you're funny, people want to talk to you.

03:06:45.000 Like once they admire what you're doing on that stage, they want to hang out.

03:06:48.000 The people that are not funny, now you gotta fucking hang out every single second and network and shit.

03:06:53.000 But the worst is the networking people that aren't funny that are always trying to get work.

03:06:57.000 And you're like, hey, if I wanted to give you work, I would ask.

03:07:01.000 Yeah.

03:07:02.000 Like you're you're doing the wrong kind of work.

03:07:03.000 You're doing the network work and not doing the why am I not funny enough work.

03:07:07.000 What's missing?

03:07:07.000 Yeah.

03:07:08.000 Why why do I not have an audience?

03:07:09.000 Like why why do people not want to go see me again?

03:07:12.000 Like, what is that?

03:07:13.000 Yeah.

03:07:14.000 I mean, yeah.

03:07:15.000 They will see you again if you give them a good show.

03:07:18.000 If you give them a good show.

03:07:19.000 But if you don't, it's like there's a lot of comedy out there, kids.

03:07:22.000 There is a lot of comedy out there.

03:07:23.000 A lot of comedy out there.

03:07:24.000 Yeah.

03:07:25.000 I don't know.

03:07:25.000 That's why, like I I'm like kind of strict on you just gotta give them something new every time you go in.

03:07:31.000 Like I feel strongly about it because it's like if they see the same thing twice.

03:07:37.000 And I'm talking about when I'm going out on a new yeah, to a new market.

03:07:40.000 Yeah.

03:07:40.000 A market that you've been to.

03:07:41.000 Yeah, it's very important.

03:07:42.000 It's expensive.

03:07:43.000 Yeah.

03:07:43.000 Like, should it it's it's not cheap to go out to a show.

03:07:46.000 Right.

03:07:47.000 Like, so if they're getting a babysitter, they're doing the whole thing, and then they see the thing they saw before, it's like maybe they have a good time, but there's a little part of them they feel maybe taken advantage of in some way.

03:07:54.000 Well, some of them they'll want to see bits again.

03:07:57.000 Like that's like the hot pockets thing with Gaff again.

03:07:59.000 But I feel like they want to see that.

03:08:01.000 And a bunch of other stuff.

03:08:02.000 Yes.

03:08:03.000 Like if you're giving them 45 of just new heat that they haven't heard before, and then at the end You tell the machine story.

03:08:09.000 They love it.

03:08:09.000 And then you get to live in the nostalgia of it.

03:08:09.000 Yeah.

03:08:11.000 You get to take your friend that you told this story to, or this joke, it's so funny.

03:08:15.000 I hope he does it.

03:08:16.000 And then you get to watch them experience it.

03:08:18.000 It's like sharing a clip with them on Instagram and just watching them laugh.

03:08:18.000 Yeah.

03:08:21.000 Right.

03:08:22.000 So you get to experience that.

03:08:23.000 But like the whole hour, nah.

03:08:25.000 You gotta have something new.

03:08:26.000 Like we gotta we gotta get at least for me.

03:08:29.000 I'm like, that is that's why I take time off.

03:08:31.000 Well, that's the difference between comedy and music, right?

03:08:31.000 I'm like, I'm gonna do that.

03:08:34.000 That's why.

03:08:36.000 Music, I don't want your new shit.

03:08:38.000 Stop with the new songs, Rolling Stones.

03:08:38.000 Right.

03:08:40.000 Imagine Oasis is doing a whole new album.

03:08:44.000 You know what I mean?

03:08:45.000 Like you could go, here's a new one, but I need to hear the hits.

03:08:49.000 Right.

03:08:50.000 And that, yeah, music just has so much more like such a great shelf life.

03:08:54.000 Mm-hmm.

03:08:55.000 It's just if a song is high.

03:08:56.000 Yeah, such a self-life, they have cover bands.

03:08:58.000 And we want to watch them?

03:08:59.000 Yeah.

03:09:00.000 Yeah, I remember Anytime I uh in LA there was a cover band for uh what the fuck was it?

03:09:08.000 It was some eighties cover band.

03:09:10.000 They were just playing like all these like fun little eighties hits.

03:09:10.000 I don't know.

03:09:12.000 And it was a thing that it would like sell out.

03:09:14.000 Like people would go to one of these venues and they go and they enjoy and they dress up in stupid eighties shit.

03:09:19.000 It became almost like uh what is that music?

03:09:21.000 Uh what is that um that movie that people would go see in the East Village uh Rocky Horror picture show.

03:09:29.000 Like you're almost like part of the performance in a way.

03:09:29.000 Remember that?

03:09:32.000 Like you're leaning into this this uh this this costumization of what's happening.

03:09:36.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:09:38.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

03:09:40.000 It's a different art form, obviously.

03:09:42.000 But that's the beautiful thing.

03:09:43.000 It's like some something could go down today, you know, and then you can go on stage with it tonight.

03:09:49.000 And everybody's like, oh shit.

03:09:51.000 That's I actually I almost like don't like it when there's nothing to talk about initially.

03:09:56.000 Right.

03:09:57.000 Like I would rather like the thing.

03:09:58.000 A new thing.

03:09:59.000 We talked about it for at least a minute, and then we're on the same page.

03:10:02.000 Because the first minute of comic comedy, like it is an odd thing.

03:10:06.000 I'm on a stage, you're all sitting, yeah.

03:10:10.000 I'm gonna talk as if we're having a conversation, but you're not really allowed to talk.

03:10:15.000 Right.

03:10:16.000 A minute in, we forget that.

03:10:17.000 Right.

03:10:18.000 You know, it's like you're watching Top Gun or something, and you're like, I'm real.

03:10:21.000 This is real, and I'm in the movie.

03:10:22.000 But that first minute, but what's great is when there is some sort of controversy or some big news story, and like everybody's thinking about it, and they're going, is he gonna talk about it?

03:10:31.000 Like, I'm sure anytime you went through something, and the first time you hit the stage, you can feel them.

03:10:36.000 Like waiting for you to address it.

03:10:36.000 Yeah.

03:10:38.000 Yeah.

03:10:38.000 That's to me.

03:10:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:10:40.000 Oh, that's the best.

03:10:41.000 Yeah.

03:10:41.000 That's the best.

03:10:42.000 That's the best.

03:10:43.000 Well, that was Tony after you know his cancellation.

03:10:46.000 Like he he went in hot and he can't his bits tightened up too, because he knew couldn't have any fat in him.

03:10:51.000 Because now people are waiting for you.

03:10:53.000 Yeah, they want you to fall on your face.

03:10:55.000 I think that's a good I think that's good to have.

03:10:55.000 Yeah.

03:10:57.000 Oh, yeah.

03:10:58.000 You shouldn't get comfy.

03:10:59.000 Oh, yeah, it's real good.

03:11:00.000 You need some haters.

03:11:01.000 Yeah, it's motivation.

03:11:02.000 Yeah.

03:11:02.000 I'm gonna make this show so sharp that you gonna have to make you're gonna have to say something else.

03:11:06.000 Or not, or you know, look stupid.

03:11:10.000 Yeah, but they're never gonna not say something, but they'll be like, oh, but it's this, but it's that.

03:11:14.000 But it's like you're not gonna talk about the thing that we all care about.

03:11:17.000 Yeah, exactly.

03:11:17.000 Yeah.

03:11:18.000 There's one thing we all care about, bro.

03:11:20.000 Paddle.

03:11:24.000 You're so addicted.

03:11:26.000 I saw your bag.

03:11:26.000 I was like, what's in the bag?

03:11:28.000 I'm going after I'm gonna play with your boy after this.

03:11:30.000 Who are you playing with?

03:11:31.000 Woody Harrelson is like big into it.

03:11:33.000 Oh yeah, he is.

03:11:35.000 So we're gonna go play.

03:11:36.000 I think he's like, you know, building a club out here.

03:11:38.000 What's he building?

03:11:39.000 A paddle club?

03:11:39.000 Yeah, I think where he's invested in one of the clubs.

03:11:41.000 It's going out here.

03:11:43.000 That's amazing.

03:11:43.000 People get upset.

03:11:44.000 It's like golf in that way.

03:11:45.000 Like people just get obsessed with it.

03:11:47.000 Yeah.

03:11:48.000 You gotta pick the things that you get obsessed with, though.

03:11:50.000 You can't have too many of those things.

03:11:51.000 I know, because our wives won't allow it. 1.00

03:11:53.000 Yeah.

03:11:54.000 Also, life is just you don't have so much time.

03:11:57.000 Unfortunately, my things take a lot of time.

03:11:59.000 Like pool one takes a lot of time.

03:12:01.000 Being in the forest.

03:12:03.000 Yeah, it takes a lot of time.

03:12:04.000 It takes a week.

03:12:05.000 Yeah.

03:12:06.000 I love I love when I text you like out of the blue, and I just get a picture of you in like a foxhole.

03:12:12.000 Just be like this fucking sweaty grainy picture.

03:12:14.000 I say you have picture of me hunting pigs.

03:12:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:12:17.000 I was in a ground blind.

03:12:19.000 I'm in a ground blind right now.

03:12:20.000 Yeah, and you're still talking shit.

03:12:22.000 Yeah, I had cell phone service.

03:12:26.000 Talking shit while I was waiting for pigs to come out.

03:12:28.000 Where was it?

03:12:29.000 That was in Texas.

03:12:30.000 Yeah, that was out here, man.

03:12:30.000 It was in Texas.

03:12:31.000 Yeah.

03:12:32.000 You need to get rid of them, right?

03:12:33.000 Aren't they like uh Oh yeah, they're a real problem.

03:12:35.000 Um I got a lease where me and a bunch of buddies have a a lease on this big piece of uh hunting land.

03:12:41.000 Yeah, and we go out there and you know, it's you literally have to kill pigs, and you turn them into sausage and I give it to my boys.

03:12:49.000 I bring it down to the mothership.

03:12:50.000 I I brought them coolers of elk beat the other night.

03:12:53.000 And everybody's like, grab an elk sausage, bring it home, send it pictures of them cooking it.

03:12:53.000 Yeah.

03:12:57.000 That clip of you and and Burr when you gave Bird the elk meat.

03:13:00.000 I think it was on like a kill Tony at the store or something.

03:13:03.000 Does it make you aggressive?

03:13:04.000 And then Burr was like, no.

03:13:08.000 No, Joe.

03:13:12.000 Fucking maniac.

03:13:13.000 But you were so hyped for him to be like, yes.

03:13:15.000 Yes.

03:13:16.000 Tony said it did.

03:13:17.000 I gave him some elk meat.

03:13:17.000 Yeah.

03:13:18.000 Yeah, and then you went on stage at the fucking Trump rally.

03:13:21.000 No, it was the other night.

03:13:22.000 The other night I gave him some, and he's like, dude, I ate it.

03:13:25.000 I got all this energy.

03:13:26.000 I just felt it.

03:13:27.000 It's like it's like a wild.

03:13:29.000 I go, Yeah, exactly.

03:13:30.000 Like you're eating the essence of a wild forest horse.

03:13:34.000 Yeah.

03:13:34.000 A forest horse that has swords growing out of its head.

03:13:37.000 It's got spears growing out of its fucking head. 1.00

03:13:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:13:42.000 Screaming in the woods.

03:13:43.000 That was the other thing That was the other thing.

03:13:45.000 When you did our pot, there was like a compilation of the animal sounds you make, which is the funniest fucking clip I've ever seen.

03:13:51.000 Like you were getting because we got high.

03:13:55.000 You came in hot.

03:13:56.000 Like you had the mushrooms rolling, we were smoking weed, and then you just start talking about bears, and all of us are just like open mouthed, these fucking claws are calling.

03:14:06.000 The wild world is like you should be in touch with that.

03:14:08.000 Everybody should be in touch with that.

03:14:10.000 People have a ridiculous idea what the wild world is.

03:14:12.000 A buddy of mine sent me a video that his buddy took of he's in Colorado and he's driving down the street.

03:14:19.000 I'll send it to you, Jamie.

03:14:20.000 He's in Colorado driving down the street, and he sees a fucking mountain lion take out a deer right on the side of the fucking highway.

03:14:31.000 I'm gonna send this to you, Jamie, right now.

03:14:31.000 Yeah.

03:14:33.000 This is like I'm domesticated.

03:14:35.000 Any of these people that like mountain lions are important, they're a part of the ecosystem.

03:14:39.000 Like these are wild monsters that live in the Do you see the one that I got in the lobby?

03:14:43.000 Do you see the mountain lion in the lobby?

03:14:45.000 The big stuffed mountain line.

03:14:46.000 But the one you've always had.

03:14:47.000 No, no, no.

03:14:48.000 The mountain lion is new.

03:14:50.000 The actual mountain lion.

03:14:51.000 I didn't see it.

03:14:51.000 My friend Adam Green Tree shot it in Colorado.

03:14:54.000 And it was killing cows, like slaughtering cows on this uh this ranch in in Colorado.

03:14:54.000 Okay.

03:15:01.000 Like this look at this.

03:15:02.000 This is the side of give me some volume on this.

03:15:04.000 Listen to this.

03:15:08.000 Look at this deer.

03:15:09.000 This mountain lion's got it by the neck. 0.99

03:15:13.000 Oh man.

03:15:18.000 Oh man.

03:15:19.000 And he's trying to drag his wave free.

03:15:23.000 Oh he got out.

03:15:26.000 And then this dude helped him with the horn.

03:15:29.000 Every now and then the good guys win.

03:15:32.000 Isn't that crazy?

03:15:33.000 But that's on the side of the road in Colorado.

03:15:35.000 Like that could be a hiker.

03:15:37.000 One hundred percent.

03:15:39.000 One hundred percent that could be a hiker.

03:15:41.000 It's a little lady, some small lady, some hundred pound lady that's walking around, you know. 1.00

03:15:47.000 Are they the good guys though?

03:15:49.000 Uh I've thought about that.

03:15:50.000 The mountain lions?

03:15:51.000 No.

03:15:52.000 The deer.

03:15:53.000 No.

03:15:54.000 Like the prey.

03:15:55.000 Yeah, but but it's like they've evolved to escape these guys, and that's why they're still around.

03:16:01.000 Right.

03:16:01.000 Right?

03:16:01.000 So they have a competitive advantage over the predators, or else they just wouldn't exist.

03:16:06.000 No.

03:16:07.000 But I guess I guess what I'm trying to say is like they don't have an advantage.

03:16:11.000 They're just hard to kill.

03:16:11.000 Okay, they're hard to kill, but they've evolved to be hard to kill.

03:16:13.000 But they get killed every day.

03:16:14.000 Sure, sure, sure, sure.

03:16:15.000 But like a lot of times they're going for the week, or they're going for the wounded or going for the babies, because if you go for like the big dogs, it's gonna be a more difficult, you're gonna expend more energy to kill them.

03:16:23.000 Right.

03:16:24.000 But I look at the predators and I'm like, they can't eat grass.

03:16:28.000 Like they would love to eat grass.

03:16:28.000 Right.

03:16:30.000 Grass is an easier life.

03:16:32.000 It's everywhere.

03:16:33.000 Unfortunately, they have to go attack these animals that have the swords coming out of their head.

03:16:38.000 Right.

03:16:39.000 So there is a version where I look at it, I'm like, who's really burdened here?

03:16:42.000 Yeah, but the deer don't have the swords coming out of their head to fight off mountain lions.

03:16:46.000 It's just uh they don't use them for mountain lions.

03:16:49.000 They use them to fight each other.

03:16:50.000 Just to fuck females, it's just yeah, it's just uh dominance thing so they could show the females that they're the dominant males. 1.00

03:16:56.000 They s they have the biggest racks and they smash racks with other deer.

03:17:00.000 But they don't use it at all as defense against predators?

03:17:02.000 No, not really.

03:17:03.000 I mean, that's stupid.

03:17:04.000 They're not smart.

03:17:05.000 Yeah.

03:17:06.000 They're wary, but they're not intelligent.

03:17:08.000 They're not like clever.

03:17:09.000 Yeah.

03:17:10.000 You know, mountain lions are clever.

03:17:11.000 Wolves are really wolves, man.

03:17:14.000 Wolves are really clever.

03:17:16.000 Yeah.

03:17:16.000 They they sort of have some sort of psychic communication with each other.

03:17:19.000 Oh, you you think that they coordinate and they don't know exactly how they do it, but they figure out traps while like one wolf will come in and they'll have other wolves flank the animals, so the animals start to scatter and the wolves come in from the sides and get them.

03:17:33.000 Coyotes do the same thing.

03:17:34.000 And they'll hunt humans too, right?

03:17:36.000 They used to.

03:17:36.000 They used to a lot.

03:17:37.000 I mean, World War One, they actually had a ceasefire between the Russians and the Germans because the wolves are killing so many people.

03:17:43.000 They decided we have to stop and kill wolves.

03:17:46.000 So they came together, took out the wolves.

03:17:48.000 Yeah.

03:17:49.000 And then they just started killing.

03:17:50.000 Yeah, because you gotta realize they're in trench warfare, right?

03:17:52.000 So people get shot and they're they're bleeding and the wolves smell the blood.

03:17:55.000 So the wolves were they would hear guys getting torn apart in the middle of the night by wolves.

03:17:59.000 The wolves had made it in their way into the foxholes and were just ripping guys apart.

03:18:03.000 Ah imagine you're you're lying in a trench and you hear that like a hundred yards away, a guy getting eaten alive by wolves.

03:18:12.000 How much do you think people knew about war during World War One?

03:18:18.000 Very little.

03:18:19.000 I mean they knew war existed.

03:18:19.000 Right?

03:18:21.000 But they didn't have a few.

03:18:22.000 There's no footage.

03:18:22.000 Yeah.

03:18:23.000 There's no photographs.

03:18:23.000 Right?

03:18:24.000 There's there's just a concept.

03:18:26.000 There's just a lot of things.

03:18:27.000 And they're just being fed like propaganda constantly from you know their own countries.

03:18:32.000 I just I like wonder what happens when all those guys come home and they're clearly traumatized.

03:18:38.000 But everybody else has just been consuming the propaganda about just, oh, look what these doing and they're fighting for us, and everything is amazing, and we're winning the war, and all this positivity that's probably emanating through news.

03:18:48.000 And then these guys come home and they start sharing like the actual stories.

03:18:51.000 Right.

03:18:52.000 Like, ugh.

03:18:53.000 Well, they just come back shell shocked.

03:18:55.000 Like you ever see Peaky Blinders?

03:18:56.000 That show?

03:18:57.000 Yeah, I watched a couple season when I think uh Cormac McCarthy was directing.

03:19:00.000 No, no, am I getting that name right?

03:19:02.000 I might be messing with it.

03:19:04.000 Cormac McCarthy's the author, right?

03:19:05.000 Oh no, so I'm thinking of a different guy.

03:19:07.000 Yeah, did he do Angela's Ashes?

03:19:09.000 Well, Cormac McCarthy, there's a the craziest um Who's the guy who directed the craziest uh headline of all time is connected to Cormac McCarthy?

03:19:18.000 I'm gonna send Jamie this.

03:19:21.000 Look at this headline.

03:19:23.000 This is an article from The Atlantic.

03:19:25.000 This might be literally the craziest headline that anyone has ever put in an article before.

03:19:31.000 You don't have to pull it up.

03:19:32.000 It's just it's just a headline of an article.

03:19:37.000 Cormac McCarthy's ex-wife pulled a gun out of her vagina during an argument about aliens.

03:19:45.000 Little 38.

03:19:48.000 Yeah, we didn't know.

03:19:52.000 I didn't know what he said about aliens.

03:19:55.000 It was probably a little Derringer, one of them little two shot little tiny pistols you could stick in your cooter.

03:20:01.000 To have a gun in your pussy is crazy. 1.00

03:20:03.000 What?

03:20:06.000 They were having an argument about aliens.

03:20:08.000 She's like, I'm not here anymore.

03:20:12.000 Why is it enough, motherfucker?

03:20:15.000 But why was it in there?

03:20:16.000 Because they're drunk as fuck.

03:20:17.000 They're probably having a good time.

03:20:18.000 Most writers, I think, like especially old timey writers.

03:20:22.000 Yeah.

03:20:23.000 Well, Hemingway was a big drunk.

03:20:24.000 I think those people part like Hunter S. Thompson, craziest of all.

03:20:28.000 I think those people party.

03:20:29.000 Stephen King when he was in his prime, cocaine, alcohol, all those people that wrote great shit, they were all out of their fucking head.

03:20:36.000 So crazier than two, though.

03:20:38.000 She went exchange.

03:20:41.000 McCarthy went into her bedroom and emerged wearing lingerie.

03:20:44.000 Her boyfriend probably thought, oh great, reconciliation, sex time.

03:20:48.000 Sorry for being skeptical of your out-of-body experience, hun, until McCarthy pulled a Swithin Wesson out of her vagina and proceeded to have intercourse with the gun. 0.69

03:20:57.000 I don't know why intercourse.

03:20:59.000 Uh asking her boyfriend, who's crazy, you or me.

03:21:03.000 So she's fucking herself with the gun. 0.99

03:21:05.000 Yeah.

03:21:05.000 Okay.

03:21:06.000 Exercise.

03:21:08.000 My kind of gal.

03:21:11.000 Yeah.

03:21:12.000 What?

03:21:13.000 Who's crazy, you or me?

03:21:15.000 Well, you got a gun in your pussy. 1.00

03:21:16.000 Um, so she was she was telling him about having some sort of an alien abduction experience, and he didn't want to believe he thought she was crazy.

03:21:27.000 So she's like, I'll show you.

03:21:31.000 Yeah, you win.

03:21:32.000 I think you win.

03:21:32.000 You win.

03:21:33.000 You got abducted.

03:21:35.000 Yeah.

03:21:35.000 I'm not arguing.

03:21:37.000 Bro, she might have.

03:21:38.000 She might have. 0.60

03:21:38.000 Yeah. 0.60

03:21:40.000 I mean, imagine you get abducted by aliens and you have to tell people, and you're like a person who wants to be taken seriously in all their walks of life, and you have to tell them that they drain your sperm on a spaceship and showed you hybrids. 0.94

03:21:52.000 That's why I I kind of I like believe the Lazar dude, like when we went to dinner, yeah.

03:21:57.000 He was he was like shell shocked a little bit.

03:22:01.000 Like he was like reluctant.

03:22:02.000 Uh-huh.

03:22:03.000 Do you remember that?

03:22:04.000 Oh, yeah.

03:22:05.000 Oh, that's why I brought you.

03:22:06.000 I was like, oh come come sit with me.

03:22:08.000 Because this is the first time I'm hang hanging with this guy.

03:22:10.000 Like, I think you and me together would be a fun combination to sit down and talk to Bob Lazar.

03:22:14.000 And it was just like he it was almost like he didn't want to share it in a lot of ways.

03:22:20.000 Yeah.

03:22:21.000 And imagine people think you're a kook for 40 years.

03:22:25.000 Yeah.

03:22:26.000 For 40 years, people have been thinking you're out of your fucking mind.

03:22:29.000 You're a liar, you make Things up and then over time all of a sudden footage starts emerging in like 2017 of these crafts doing exactly what you described, moving in a way that's exactly like what you were saying.

03:22:42.000 And then there starts getting these whistleblowers, these David Grushes and Lou Elizondo say we have a crash retrieval program.

03:22:48.000 We've had it for a long time.

03:22:50.000 The problem is these defense contractors have access to this stuff, they lied to Congress, there's misappropriation of funds.

03:22:56.000 There's a lot attached to this, and that's why they're not releasing it.

03:23:00.000 Which is n if that's true.

03:23:00.000 Yeah.

03:23:03.000 That's why I always say when people ask me, they're like, I would just be like, I believe he believes it.

03:23:03.000 Yeah.

03:23:08.000 I can't say what it is, obviously.

03:23:08.000 Yeah.

03:23:10.000 I'm not there, I don't know anything.

03:23:12.000 But like I don't think he was uh what are they called?

03:23:15.000 Like a charlatan or whatever that word is.

03:23:17.000 Like I don't think he's making this up for attention.

03:23:19.000 Right.

03:23:21.000 He believes what he saw.

03:23:24.000 Something happened.

03:23:25.000 He saw something.

03:23:26.000 And he was a legitimate propulsions expert, and he he really did work for Los Alamos Labs, which is doing all sorts of wild shit.

03:23:32.000 And then he really did work for Area S4.

03:23:35.000 Like somehow or another, he was shipped over there to Area 51, site four, and he says they have UFOs.

03:23:43.000 He said they have like seven of them.

03:23:45.000 Good.

03:23:46.000 He said one of them is really old.

03:23:49.000 He said they said it was a part of an archaeological dig.

03:23:53.000 Here's what's crazy about that.

03:23:54.000 I have this guy, Ben Van Kirkwick.

03:23:56.000 He um has that YouTube page called uh Uncharted X, and he's um Yeah.

03:24:02.000 Yeah, great guy.

03:24:03.000 Yeah.

03:24:03.000 They have found through the use of uh uh ground penetrating radar, they found these labyrinths in Egypt that are so fucking huge and under underground, like deep underground, but these massive like corridors that lead into these atriums, like m and they found a forty meter long metallic object that's under the ground in Egypt.

03:24:32.000 Forty meters long, metallic, some unknown metal that's under the ground and it doesn't uh whatever it is, they know it's metallic, it doesn't have any sort of signature that is reminiscent of any other metal that we know about.

03:24:46.000 It was a specific it was a specific historical site, I think that was found in each.

03:24:50.000 Herodotus talked about it.

03:24:52.000 What was it called?

03:24:53.000 Um I think it's called the Labyrinths.

03:24:55.000 I think that's how it's referred.

03:24:57.000 But yeah, this is not like uh like a fragment of people's imagination, like this is something historically documented throughout time for thousands of years.

03:25:04.000 And that Herodotus talked about it being greater than the pyramids of Giza underground.

03:25:10.000 And since so in 1960, um Ben was telling us in the sixties they uh built a dam and you know to help the farmers in the the area, and unfortunately it raised the water table.

03:25:21.000 Oh, and that's fucked it up and it flooded these labyrinths because otherwise they would have just been able to dig down into it and enter in and now it's all filled with water.

03:25:30.000 Is it filled with water or sediment because of the expansion of the water?

03:25:33.000 It's both, and uh there's sediment, of course, that comes with the water, but there's water, but then below the water table is where the labyrinth.

03:25:41.000 So he's saying there might be a way that they could tunnel from the side past where the water comes in, but they don't want to admit that it's real.

03:25:47.000 Like all these Egyptologists are kind of like down about it.

03:25:50.000 Ozahi Yeah, I saw that.

03:25:52.000 Yeah, I don't know if that went the way that he thought it was gonna go.

03:25:55.000 It went the way I thought it was gonna go.

03:25:56.000 Yeah, I know.

03:25:57.000 Gavin, pay attention.

03:26:02.000 It's not gonna go as you see it going.

03:26:04.000 I'm really high on California.

03:26:06.000 Yeah.

03:26:07.000 I like how he's like trying to tweet as Trump.

03:26:10.000 Like you don't even have your own style.

03:26:11.000 You're mocking his style to try to tweet.

03:26:15.000 Trump is Trump is kinder than me, bro.

03:26:17.000 He's also making things up like California derangement syndrome.

03:26:21.000 Yeah.

03:26:22.000 No, it's like these are facts.

03:26:24.000 The people are frustrated.

03:26:25.000 People from out there, and they have the right to be frustrated.

03:26:25.000 Yeah.

03:26:27.000 Don't gaslight your own people.

03:26:28.000 I think that's up.

03:26:29.000 I think that's upsetting.

03:26:30.000 Like if I was from there and I was upset with what was going on and I complained about it, and the guy who's in charge says, Oh, you're just deranged.

03:26:37.000 Yeah, listen, you don't see a similar uprising against Florida.

03:26:41.000 You don't.

03:26:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:26:43.000 Florida boomed economically during COVID.

03:26:45.000 Yeah.

03:26:46.000 You know, a lot of people moved there.

03:26:47.000 Why?

03:26:48.000 Because they had completely different regulations and they allowed people to be free.

03:26:51.000 And now DeSantis is even talking about removing property tax.

03:26:54.000 Yeah, I saw that.

03:26:55.000 Which is a game changer.

03:26:57.000 Can they afford it though?

03:26:58.000 I don't know.

03:26:59.000 I don't Understand any of it.

03:27:00.000 Yeah, me neither.

03:27:01.000 I don't fucking know.

03:27:02.000 But like that is tricky though.

03:27:04.000 Mm-hmm.

03:27:05.000 The idea that like you buy a home and then you continually have to pay the government to own your own home.

03:27:09.000 How about even worse?

03:27:10.000 What if you bought a home a long time ago and you paid $20,000 for it in like 1940?

03:27:15.000 Yeah.

03:27:16.000 And now all of a sudden it's worth two million.

03:27:18.000 And you have to pay for the city.

03:27:19.000 So you have taxes on two million.

03:27:20.000 Oh, it's not based on different states have different rules.

03:27:23.000 Okay.

03:27:24.000 But in some states you have to pay tax on the amount of money your house is worth.

03:27:28.000 Is it the justification that like this is what maintains the streets and this is what makes the community?

03:27:32.000 Well, the justification is like, say if you buy a two million dollar home, you should be contributing with your property taxes to schools and all sorts of other things, which totally makes sense.

03:27:41.000 But the problem is, like, if you're eighty years old and you bought this house for $20,000 and you're on social security, and now all of a sudden you owe money on something you already bought to a gruv a government that's a terrible job of using your money.

03:27:55.000 Yeah.

03:27:56.000 Terrible job.

03:27:57.000 Documented, terrible job of spending your money.

03:28:01.000 Yeah.

03:28:02.000 Yeah, I just I don't know why he's poking the I don't know why he's poking, man.

03:28:06.000 I don't know why he's poking.

03:28:08.000 Also, like, didn't Trump's kid pipe his wife or whatever?

03:28:12.000 His ex.

03:28:13.000 Yeah.

03:28:16.000 Well.

03:28:16.000 I would have tweeted that.

03:28:21.000 I'm more petty than these motherfuckers.

03:28:23.000 You're not gonna talk shit about me and my voice and my kid piped your wife. 1.00

03:28:28.000 That's coming out immediately.

03:28:30.000 Why don't you pull my kid's dick out of your wife? 1.00

03:28:33.000 That's my immediate tweet.

03:28:35.000 Yeah.

03:28:36.000 Interesting.

03:28:37.000 It's interesting.

03:28:38.000 I think it's interesting.

03:28:39.000 I think there's a pack.

03:28:40.000 I've never thought about it.

03:28:41.000 It is interesting.

03:28:42.000 Interesting.

03:28:43.000 Uh it's just it's just interesting.

03:28:44.000 It's just yeah, I think.

03:28:46.000 You ran short of words, son, for a guy who's really good at talking.

03:28:50.000 They brought up APAC, you clammed up right there.

03:28:53.000 I just I never thought about it.

03:28:55.000 Never thought about JPEG, but not APA.

03:28:57.000 Like J thought about it.

03:28:58.000 Never thought about it.

03:29:00.000 Interesting.

03:29:00.000 Now you can think.

03:29:01.000 Meanwhile, you just passed some sort of a the anti-Semitism thing.

03:29:05.000 Oh, there's another.

03:29:06.000 Yeah.

03:29:06.000 What was the anti-Semitism thing that they just uh pushed through?

03:29:10.000 No.

03:29:10.000 Wait a minute.

03:29:11.000 Was it the one about the schools that they then rebuked it?

03:29:14.000 Oh, I don't know.

03:29:14.000 It was just something someone was connecting it to.

03:29:16.000 This is why Gav it was a Twitter thing that I was reading.

03:29:18.000 Someone was saying, Oh, this is why Gavin Newsom didn't want to say anything when they were talking about APAC.

03:29:23.000 He wants it bad.

03:29:24.000 Like you can tell he wants it bad.

03:29:25.000 Yeah.

03:29:26.000 But uh it's almost like having less time in government is beneficial to becoming president.

03:29:32.000 100%.

03:29:34.000 That's why I think if the Democrats have somebody that's really got a shot, it's that Taller Rico guy. 0.99

03:29:39.000 James Talarico had him on my podcast.

03:29:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:29:42.000 I think he's legitimate.

03:29:44.000 I think he's a real deal.

03:29:46.000 Like what he what he says he is is what he is.

03:29:48.000 Yeah.

03:29:48.000 Very religious person who has a really good point.

03:29:51.000 When he talks about Texas, like there's these very, very wealthy billionaires that are trying to turn the state into theocracy, and they want to uh that's why they got the Ten Commandments pushed into every school, all the public schools here.

03:30:01.000 He's like, they want to defund public schools and fund religious schools, and he's like, these people are dangerous.

03:30:06.000 This idea is dangerous.

03:30:07.000 And like the far right is just as dangerous as the far left.

03:30:10.000 And if you're on the right and you don't recognize this kind of this kind of shit is and he this is a really religious guy.

03:30:16.000 And that's where you trust it even more.

03:30:17.000 Someone actually really believes in it that's pushing back and goes this is against like the values of our country.

03:30:22.000 Yes.

03:30:22.000 He might agree with all those things that they're pushing, but he's like, I don't think it's to be like governmently enforced in schools.

03:30:28.000 He's very well versed in the Bible and is literally in seminary right now.

03:30:32.000 Like this is a guy that's very religious, like legitimately religious and has been his whole life.

03:30:37.000 But that's the thing, you need to shake shit up, and you especially need to shake shit up with your own party.

03:30:40.000 I mean, that's what Trump did with Republicans.

03:30:42.000 That's what any candidate that ends up winning does is you have to be like the candidate of rebellion to a certain extent.

03:30:48.000 Like you've even seen what's happened in New York right now.

03:30:50.000 Like you could hate every policy that Mom Donnie has, but you can't deny that he's at least saying things that tap into the concerns and frustrations of New Yorkers.

03:31:02.000 You left those people out of the conversation.

03:31:02.000 Right.

03:31:04.000 Exactly.

03:31:04.000 And now the chickens have come home to roost.

03:31:06.000 So it's like I will not at all I'll I won't at all criticize him for trying to fix problems that people have when the other guys there are just saying we're not gonna do anything.

03:31:06.000 There it is.

03:31:17.000 Yeah.

03:31:18.000 I think it was a lot of times the frustrations with the the last election.

03:31:21.000 It's just like people were frustrated with Biden.

03:31:23.000 They just didn't think that he was all there.

03:31:25.000 They didn't know who was running the country, and they didn't like what was happening.

03:31:27.000 And then she came in and she wouldn't separate herself at all.

03:31:29.000 So that's on you.

03:31:30.000 Like you have to give people you have to give people hope, and oftentimes hope is being the candidate of rebellion, and that usually is what ends up winning.

03:31:38.000 Do you see the people ragging on her conversation with Kara Swisher?

03:31:42.000 She was on stage with Karis Wisher, and she even Karis Wish was kind of like ragging on her a little bit.

03:31:46.000 She was like, uh, you know, uh a lot of some people said that I was the most qualified person to ever run for president.

03:31:54.000 Like, who said that?

03:31:55.000 And Kara's like, some people said that, like, who said that?

03:31:58.000 You were literally running against a guy who was already president.

03:32:02.000 So if you're if you're going, if you're going based on your resume, you're not more qualified than Biden.

03:32:08.000 Biden was the vice president of the United States for eight years.

03:32:08.000 Yeah.

03:32:12.000 Best thing for the Republican Party right now is her book tour.

03:32:16.000 Because every time she talks on camera, there's a reminder as to why she lost.

03:32:20.000 When she went away for a while, I think you could be like, you could pretend about what she was and what she stood for.

03:32:27.000 But the second she does an interview and she's like, yeah, I couldn't have uh Pete be my uh vice president.

03:32:27.000 Yeah.

03:32:32.000 He's a gay. 1.00

03:32:34.000 And then Rachel Mallow is like, well, what do you mean?

03:32:36.000 She's like, no, I'm not exactly saying, but he likes guys.

03:32:39.000 You're like, what is going on right now?

03:32:39.000 Yeah.

03:32:41.000 It's too risky.

03:32:41.000 Right.

03:32:42.000 It's too risky.

03:32:43.000 Yeah.

03:32:44.000 How dare you say Merry Christmas?

03:32:46.000 How dare you?

03:32:46.000 Yeah.

03:32:47.000 She's it's like the same thing, man.

03:32:50.000 Do you see your Columbus Day message to America?

03:32:52.000 What was the Columbus?

03:32:53.000 Oh God.

03:32:54.000 It was like, don't forget the horrors that the Europeans did to the Okay. 1.00

03:32:59.000 Jesus.

03:33:00.000 Did he even get here?

03:33:01.000 Scolding.

03:33:02.000 Did he get here or not?

03:33:03.000 Columbus?

03:33:03.000 No.

03:33:04.000 Did not get here.

03:33:04.000 No.

03:33:05.000 No.

03:33:05.000 So take that up with the Dominican Republic or whatever.

03:33:08.000 Wherever he landed.

03:33:09.000 That's what I'm saying.

03:33:10.000 It's like.

03:33:11.000 But it wasn't Columbus necessarily.

03:33:12.000 I mean, the idea is I think it's Indigenous People's Day.

03:33:15.000 I think it stopped being Columbus Day after a while.

03:33:17.000 And they call it Indigenous People's Day.

03:33:17.000 Yeah.

03:33:20.000 Yeah, I mean, like, shout out to them.

03:33:20.000 Which makes sense.

03:33:23.000 I think it's funny when governments do these things with like uh enforced care.

03:33:28.000 Like anytime I'm performing in Canada, like if it's on like an indigenous area, they make me do like uh a land acknowledgement.

03:33:34.000 And I remember the first time they told me that I was like, You want me to do what?

03:33:37.000 And they're like, yeah, we want you to let them know that this used to be native land.

03:33:40.000 And I'm like, I remember telling it to like the chief of the tribe, and I'm like, brother, that kind of seems like I'm bragging.

03:33:48.000 Like I'm going up there and be like, yo, this used to be yours, but the boys came in.

03:33:53.000 Got y'all the fuck out of here. 0.70

03:33:55.000 Like, you really want me to go and remind everybody what happened before the comedy show?

03:33:59.000 You know what my favorite part about that is?

03:34:01.000 It's a land acknowledgement, but also saying we're not giving it back.

03:34:04.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

03:34:05.000 We stole it, but it's ours now.

03:34:07.000 So what do we do?

03:34:08.000 Who are we doing this for?

03:34:09.000 Sorry.

03:34:10.000 We're gonna acknowledge the fact that we're on stolen land.

03:34:13.000 But the thing, the thing is, these people that go along with that are also the same people that want no borders, and uh no one's illegal being anywhere.

03:34:21.000 Like Christopher Columbus is the only immigrant they hate.

03:34:26.000 Yo, that was there was like that's like you know, no one's illegal.

03:34:33.000 Hey, listen, but yeah, these people shouldn't have been here.

03:34:35.000 We let a Spanish-speaking guy into America once.

03:34:37.000 Went great.

03:34:39.000 Can't see any problem with that ever.

03:34:47.000 And did the Mayan Empire?

03:34:49.000 They gave him all fucking diseases.

03:34:51.000 Jesus Christ.

03:34:52.000 No, it's hilarious.

03:34:53.000 So think about what they did, what Cortez did to Mexico.

03:34:56.000 I know.

03:34:57.000 Like, my God.

03:34:59.000 I know, it's nuts.

03:35:01.000 Yeah, fucked up shit.

03:35:02.000 Yeah, it's like, yeah, human beings did that, but also, yeah, bad.

03:35:07.000 The diseases, the slaughter.

03:35:09.000 Also, what they did to each other was horrible.

03:35:11.000 Yeah.

03:35:11.000 I mean, human beings do fucked up shit.

03:35:13.000 Yeah, and always.

03:35:14.000 We're here now.

03:35:15.000 What are we gonna do now?

03:35:16.000 That's my worry.

03:35:17.000 So what are we gonna do now?

03:35:18.000 It's like it's like you go into the doctor, you got lung cancer, and the doctor's like, let's talk about all them cigarettes you were smoking.

03:35:24.000 And it's like, why don't we talk about all that chemo you're gonna give me?

03:35:27.000 Like, tell me what we're gonna do now to get rid of this shit.

03:35:30.000 Right, don't tell me about what I did.

03:35:32.000 I know what I did.

03:35:34.000 Yeah.

03:35:35.000 All right, brother.

03:35:36.000 Go play some fucking paddle. 1.00

03:35:38.000 This is fun.

03:35:39.000 You gotta come.

03:35:39.000 This is actually.

03:35:40.000 I gotta get you on a paddle call.

03:35:41.000 I can't today.

03:35:41.000 I got too much shit to do.

03:35:42.000 One of these days I'm getting it.

03:35:42.000 All right, fine.

03:35:43.000 One of these days.

03:35:44.000 I'll go out there with you.

03:35:45.000 Anyway, I love you, Doug.

03:35:46.000 I love you too, brother.

03:35:47.000 Always good to hang.

03:35:48.000 Always great to hang.

03:35:49.000 Yes, sir.

03:35:50.000 All right, bye everybody.

03:35:50.000 Yes, sir.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 18, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2396 - Andrew Schulz

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