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00:04:20.000You just picture him looking like just perfect like Cat Williams type suit on stage, you know, just going off, sweating, wiping his head with a towel, full blast.
00:06:00.000Because when I when we were in uh He's in the Street Fighter movie, so we were in Australia filming, like I saw the guys with him, and like I recognized like a couple, like if it's a security, but they didn't look like one guy looked like actual professional security, and I was like, I was like, oh that's that's that guy looks like that's his real job being security.
00:08:36.000Like Terren Butler is like a multiple time world champion shooter of those, you know, the events that they have where it's timed or a shoot already.
00:10:29.000You know, he's like, all right, if the NFL is gonna be 50% black, and you know, like so but again, like the contest because it's taken out.
00:10:38.000Like the the algorithm flattens all of us into a two-dimensional person.
00:10:42.000And like only the views that tap into you know, your biggest insecurities or your biggest fears, not the views, only like the the the lines we say or the videos, whatever that tap into those things.
00:10:52.000Or with terrible things you want confirmed.
00:10:57.000And like I realized it when I was doing like a promo tour for for life, my last special, right?
00:11:03.000I would go on a couple pods that like and like maybe like 10, 15, 20 minutes into the conversation, they I would realize like, oh wow, they have a very different view of me than me.
00:11:19.000No, well, the New York Times one, I was like expecting it for sure.
00:11:22.000But even when I went on Dax's podcast, Dax knew me, but his uh his co-host, I was like, oh, she has an idea of me that's like cultivated by the internet and heads on shit.
00:11:33.000And it's just a flattened version, right?
00:11:55.000And when he died, this person that you saw is like a good God-fearing man, you're like heartbroken by it.
00:12:03.000And then on the left, this person you saw that was like bigoted or hateful, you're like, okay, I'm not really heartbreaking by it.
00:12:09.000Some people are even crazy enough to be like, he deserved it, or this is what you get, right?
00:12:13.000But they can only have that feeling if he's completely dehumanized the version of him that they see all the time.
00:12:19.000That happens to you, it happens to me, it happens to like anybody who's on the internet talking, you know, for a few hours a week.
00:12:25.000And when I saw that shit, and I especially I saw like that this visceral reaction to Charlie, that's what's so sneak so's the insanity in the country because the people on the left are seeing the people on the right be heartbroken, but they're like, Why are you heartbroken over this guy who's a bigot?
00:12:40.000And the people on the right are seeing the people on the left celebrate and they're like, Why are you celebrating the death of this God fearing family man?
00:12:46.000And both sides just think each other is absolutely insane.
00:12:55.000So Yeah, it was just the life thing when I was talking to those people, I was like, you know, 20 or 30 minutes in the conversation, big, oh wow, like, yeah, you're not kind of who I thought you were.
00:13:25.000Heterosexual is a real problem in this day and age.
00:13:28.000Yeah, no, no, it's uh yeah, I think that like manosphere, I think there's like Rogan verse, like manosphere, like and I think that this is kind of a new iteration post election.
00:13:38.000So I think what a lot of people are are struggling with the fact is they're trying to like find a way that the Democrats lost the election without taking any accountability for like what they were doing.
00:13:50.000So it's like, oh, because he went on Rogan and Schultz and Theo's podcast.
00:13:55.000It's like, no, they they kind of ran a dead guy that was very unpopular, and then they ran a woman that can't really talk that well in front of the camera.
00:14:02.000An open border for four years that freaked everybody out.
00:14:05.000Sure, sure, but like how like in New York, people aren't really worried about the open border.
00:14:10.000I talked to a lot of people in New York that were upset about the migrants that had been shipped there that they were putting it up in the Roosevelt Hotel set was.
00:14:18.000The mining crisis for sure, like New York, I think like affected people.
00:14:57.000Yeah, and like Ezra did a great piece, and it's so funny because like he's trying to be reasonable right now.
00:15:02.000He's like trying to have No and they're calling him a right winger.
00:15:04.000And I keep and I keep hitting him up and I'm like, bro, you're doing the right thing when there are groups that like hate you because you're actually trying to like win an election, you're trying to be reasonable.
00:15:14.000He had this whole thing about like, hey, the reason why they can build a lot of buildings in Texas and why we can't in Los Angeles is because there are restrictive laws, and people are like, this guy's an animal.
00:18:27.000And it always ends up with me getting fucked.
00:18:29.000Uh yeah, the world's dark right now with this because there's no rules and people are just it's sort of like if you gave the world matches for the first time.
00:18:38.000And they're like, I could just start a fire.
00:18:41.000Do you think they did that initially when they created fire?
00:18:43.000They're like, we need some rules for this shit.
00:18:51.000Is it that I don't even have to have a license to have one of the most powerful forces in the world at the palm of my hand and I could be six.
00:19:21.000Probably for structural rigidity and um like from the cold, it's better l if you have like I wouldn't I would imagine there's a bunch of reasons to make something out of brick.
00:19:35.000Oh, I imagine you may have light on fire.
00:19:37.000Concrete is I mean, they're making by the way, they they probably should do this a long time ago, but they're they're making fireproof houses now and like Malibu and place like that, rich people.
00:19:47.000Yeah, I you would imagine like if you're living in a place that like once the fire hits, no one's stopping shit.
00:19:54.000So Yeah, they just busted somebody for that.
00:21:55.000The guy that was going in the uh they caught him at a checkpoint, but I think they're uh alluding that he was probably gonna go try to rob the houses.
00:22:03.000It's a bunch of tools that they say were used in burglaries.
00:22:35.000Yeah, robbing somebody's personal home feels different.
00:22:38.000I mean, it's fucked up to just break into a Kmart or any of those things.
00:22:41.000Like, but you see how like you could get caught up in like um I don't know, I don't want to call it the excitement, but like, you know, you're a little fucking kid and something's going down, you're like, all right, let's get after it.
00:23:04.000Well, as long as they're back in that house, they're gonna know that when the fires broke out, you kicked in their front door and ransacked their house, and now they're sitting in it.
00:23:12.000If the house didn't burn down, now they're sitting in the house.
00:24:06.000And I think the governor was like, okay, we have to rebuild this because obviously there's gonna be like huge traffic situations, like we just we need this thing.
00:24:14.000This is just how humans are gonna kind of get around.
00:24:17.000And uh so they stripped all legislation and they were able to put it up in a matter of weeks, if I'm not mistaken.
00:24:23.000Jamie, you know what I'm talking about?
00:25:13.000I got in a conversation about that a long time ago with Dave Rubin, where we were talking about uh regulations for construction sites that you don't you don't need inspectors.
00:28:01.000It's it's probably in terms of like one place, if you had to live in one state for the rest of your life, one state for the rest of your life.
00:28:17.000If you want to be in San Diego and the beach all day, you have the San Diego and the beach.
00:28:20.000You can surf, you could snow, but you could do whatever the fuck you want.
00:28:22.000You want to be a farmer, go find out parts of San Francisco, all kinds of parts of Oakland, all kinds of parts of you know the San Fernando Valley.
00:29:24.000We're talking about if you're making like a ten million dollar rom com, that's one thing.
00:29:27.000If you're making a hundred million dollar, two hundred million dollar film, sixty percent off in taxes?
00:29:33.000So something's happening in LA and it's fucked up because I look at LA kind of like a college football town, but college football is the film industry.
00:29:56.000The crew that came out to film, like a lot of the crew that came out to film in Australia was from LA.
00:30:00.000And a lot of them have moved to LA, they've moved to like San Diego, like my boy Nick was AD, he's like, yeah, there's just no work in LA right now, so we'll travel for the job, and then I just live the rest of my time in San Diego.
00:30:40.000Well, it's also a town of lost children, right?
00:30:44.000Like the one of the problems with LA is like if you wanted to talk about a town that doesn't have like an emotional base that's healthy.
00:30:53.000Like the the main motivation of uh a good percentage of the people that came out there is to just to get attention to make up for a shitty childhood.
00:31:02.000Like that's the main the main population.
00:31:07.000LA is is attention to make up for a shitty childhood.
00:31:10.000New York is money to make up for a shitty childhood.
00:31:16.000It's like New York is the hedge funds of the banks because it's like, okay, my dad wasn't around, my mom hated me, but I'm gonna make a billion dollars, and that's it.
00:31:24.000My mom was on pills and barely there, and you know, developed enough sociopathy like I can be this fucking hedge fund guy that's gonna take over the world.
00:34:00.000But I think it's kind of cool in New York that you have these little bubbles where you know people really value this niche thing that you do.
00:34:07.000Well, New York has strong communities of bubbles, right?
00:34:11.000Like the pool thing is a good example because LA at one time had Hollywood billiards, which was a 24-hour pool hall that was filled with hustlers.
00:34:21.000Like if you were a New York pool player and you were coming to LA, you went to Hollywood and you you went downstairs, and there's all these like you could get a game.
00:36:26.000There was uh there was a place in um the valley, there was a couple places in like when you start going out towards Santa Barbara, well tout that there was a few places, but as far as like the volume of New York City, it was not even close.
00:36:43.000It was New York, Connecticut, New Jersey.
00:36:45.000They were all filled with legendary pool hall.
00:36:48.000We used to play at West End Billiards in uh New Jersey.
00:36:51.000They had a weekly tournament with like pros.
00:36:59.000But you would go there and you'd see Steve Mizerak playing Rodney Morris, two world class world championship level pool pool players in this shitty ass fucking weird spot with a diner counter there.
00:37:19.000I remember I was here, forget what it was, but like there you had a guy down here, I don't know if he just did the pod, but he was like an OG, and I think he like commentates maybe now, but Jeremy Jones my boy, yeah.
00:37:31.000And uh he could hold court, like he was always storyteller.
00:38:00.000Like being like essentially like a traveling pool hustler, and like popping into a town where you heard there was some game and you travel with like a couple other people, one guy would like uh sense it out.
00:38:10.000He would go play a couple games, see who's there, and then Jeremy would just come in and just clean up for two weeks straight, and then you're out of there.
00:38:22.000Yeah, the first week you just let people beat up on you a little bit, and then the second week you eat their lunch.
00:38:27.000Depends on how thick your bankroll is.
00:38:29.000You know, like if you could start off like just you you only got like 150 to lose, you know, like you have your gambling money, like what can we fuck with before we start getting into real money?
00:39:03.000And then you loosen up, then all of a sudden the stroke is smooth, and he's like, What the fuck happens like midway through that game when someone realizes they're being hustled?
00:41:37.000Because if you're the best, you can't get hustled.
00:41:39.000Yeah, I guess what I'm trying to say is like uh in in just regular life, if somebody was trying to hustle me, I'd be like, fuck you, you're an asshole.
00:42:22.000And I feel like this is one of them where a guy's coming over to essentially steal your money, but you understand that the game is that, so you're like, okay, I'm gonna let you like riz me up a little bit.
00:42:33.000Like I'm gonna let you fake charm me, and I might actually get you over.
00:42:37.000And there's no animosity between the sharks.
00:42:39.000Have you ever seen two elite pool players talk about the game about like setting up a game?
00:42:44.000They're like, I don't know, I haven't been playing.
00:42:55.000So like if nine ball, so like if you and I are playing nine ball and you were kinda good, I was like, oh look, I'll give you the eight ball, which means you could win by pocketing the eight ball or the nine ball.
00:43:05.000It way increases your uh ability to win the game.
00:43:09.000Because you can make combinations, you could luck in the eight ball, luck in the nine, and I would say it's call or wild.
00:44:00.000That's the same way with pool players.
00:44:02.000There's pool players that are kinda okay, but think they're a lot better than they are.
00:44:06.000And if if they're a moron and you could dance with their ego a little bit, like, dude, I saw you play uh Mikey, you're fucking amazing, man.
00:44:14.000When you get loose, you're way better than me.
00:44:17.000And the guy's like, I'll give you a spot.
00:44:19.000And then he's giving you the eight ball, and he can't beat you even.
00:50:39.000Yeah, but it's a light grip, and then on the final stroke, you have to.
00:50:44.000The thing is it's like even then, it's like mostly the weight of the Q. It's like a little bit of like wrist action, and I'm trying to like have as little I let the cue slip a little in my grip as it makes contact.
00:50:57.000It's really like the weight of the cue.
00:51:56.000But it's a work of art that only someone who practices it can understand.
00:52:00.000People like I was telling you about playing paddle and how like obsessed I am, and you're you immediately were like, I'm playing pool 14 hours a week.
00:52:09.000I don't I don't think people realize like how important it is to just have some shit that you enjoy.
00:52:18.000It's just it's like a removal from all like this stupid stress, chaos, all people talking shit, what the internet is fabricated, like it's great to have a couple hours.
00:53:48.000Like, do you ever even feel like that?
00:53:50.000Like how many people are you having like a normal conversation where you're like talking shit and they're not going, oh my god, I'm talking to Joe Rogan right now.
00:53:57.000Like, is that why like is that why Being around comedians that you've known for so long is valuable to you.
00:54:03.000Is that why like being around these pool guys that yes, they know you're Joe, but like once you start playing, like you either suck at pool, yeah, or you can play.
00:54:13.000Like i is there like a uh does it like bring you back to humanity in some ways?
00:55:52.000And that can happen, and you don't build up that resilience.
00:55:55.000I almost feel like it's you almost have some empathy for it, you know, because like they never had 20 years, 30 years toiling in obscurity before they got success.
00:56:04.000So they we uh you know, like we at least have something to like look back on and realize how fucking humbling it is and how shitty people can be, etc.
00:56:15.000There's not I never met one of them that's got their you know, some of them are really interesting still, like Miley, Miley Sire, she's really interesting.
00:56:23.000Yeah, she's very smart, and she's really good.
00:56:26.000Like her music is like she's not trying to be like pop hit girl.
00:56:30.000Yeah, she's just trying to express herself.
00:56:32.000It's like real legit art, but they know you get that famous that young, your fucking Hannah Montana when you're a teenager and the whole world is cheering for you, and you don't get a little crazy because of that.
00:59:46.000And but the the thing right there is like your kid is gonna be born with certain things, and you can if they have that like ambition, that hunger, and that resilience, you can give them some tough love and maybe make a champion out of them.
01:00:03.000And I think that you could break a kid like that too.
01:00:06.000That's the tricky thing I always think with with you know, my daughter is like, and any future kids is I don't I don't know if I I don't I don't have that at this point in my life, I don't have that.
01:00:18.000I I just you gotta let them be themselves.
01:00:21.000Because they all are gonna have the the worst thing is like say if you have a kid and you love baseball and you force your fucking kid to play baseball.
01:01:29.000You want to just work this out on your own?
01:01:30.000Like, you have to have that kind of open level of communication with your kids where they can tell you, like, hey, just leave me the fuck alone right now.
01:02:08.000Um, it just lets you understand that they're so different.
01:02:11.000The the way they are, they're so different.
01:02:13.000Like my friends that have sons, they come home, the people are lighting things on fire, they're picking the cat up by its tail.
01:02:19.000Like there's there's all these people who don't have kids that have all these opinions about gender and like what you're born as and all this other stuff.
01:02:24.000And I don't need to get into the whole gender discussion, but like I see the way that slightly older girls play with my daughter.
01:02:30.000So like my daughter's you know, a little over you're 20 months, right?
01:02:34.000So the three-year-olds and four-year-olds that play with her, they're already kind of like mothering.
01:02:59.000My boy Jason got uh two kids, both boys, and like you could tell if we weren't there, the older kid is gonna throw the the younger kid wherever the hell he wants to throw.
01:03:27.000It's if if it's a five-year-old to a two-year-old, uh, maybe, but once you get to be three and four, fuck you.
01:03:33.000And you know, it's also this understanding that you keep getting bigger, and like as like as time goes on, like the younger ones, like if someone's picking on you, you can pick on someone younger than you, and like there's a especially if you're like four brothers, like the toughest brother's always the youngest brother.
01:03:49.000Like if there's a bunch of fighters, yeah.
01:03:51.000If there's a bunch of fighters and he has three older brothers, did John have three older brothers?
01:07:29.000And I'm gonna be able to walk him down.
01:07:30.000And I remember the second the bell rings, he runs right at him, and he throws like maybe like a one-two one, and I think the the right is to the body.
01:07:38.000And you could see Uncle Ive go, Whoa, I did not expect the first five seconds of this fight to go this way.
01:07:42.000He came out hot and close distance real quick.
01:07:45.000And it was a great, like, it's it's a testament to like um somebody had said this before, especially in MMA.
01:07:50.000It's like when somebody gets not nervous or but or like when you shake somebody out of their like natural instinct, they revert back to what they're most comfortable doing.
01:07:59.000So it's like if you're like a wrestling guy your whole life and then you learn how to strike, the second something goes a little bit, you know, out of whack, you're gonna revert back to your wrestling.
01:08:07.000I think it might have been DC this time.
01:08:08.000I forget exactly who was they saying, but like you revert back to what you're most comfortable with.
01:08:30.000This is long straight right he started off the fight with.
01:08:34.000But when he lands this like looping right there.
01:08:37.000It's not that one, it's a little bit after that.
01:08:39.000So what he did is he set him up and then got his foot in proper position where he could step inside of him, and Ancalayev was ready for one thing, and Pereira, watch this.
01:08:51.000If you see where he sets it up, a guy did a really good breakdown of it.
01:11:13.000Yeah, if you saw that on a lineup in a jiu-jitsu tournament or something, you'd be like, Nermagomedoff.
01:11:21.000You like you would just have a thousand yard stale, like fuck.
01:11:24.000Anyway, like you fought him again, and like you know, he was like, Yeah, I was dealing with a bunch of you know, some I was dealing with some stuff in campus, but I don't want to make excuses because we're always dealing with some stuff.
01:11:32.000He was like he was like, he's probably dealing with stuff, like that guy.
01:11:36.000I mean, it was it was a close fight, but I thought that uh he came out to the show in Dubai and I was like, and he was like uh and he was like he's like, Yeah, he's just like really good.
01:11:45.000He's just like a really good guy, and I thought that I could get him.
01:11:47.000I think I still can, maybe it happens one day in the future.
01:11:50.000But I was this honest approach where where he was basically saying, We're always a little injured.
01:11:54.000We're fighters, like naturally in training camp, you're gonna hurt something, you're gonna tweak something.
01:11:59.000Now, granted, you got fucking neurovirus, this is a little bit different than like your you know shoulder sore.
01:15:09.000Do we not do we not understand that when you vote for somebody they're gonna do some things that you don't like and they're gonna do some things that you do?
01:15:15.000Like again, there's no nuance on the internet, but like I don't think that this is what BB Netanyahu wanted.
01:15:23.000I don't think that and I think it's what Trump wanted.
01:15:26.000I think Trump went, I want to stop it.
01:15:28.000And you could make arguments for that, like, oh, he wants to get the Noble Peace Prize or whatever the fuck you want to say, but like he wanted it.
01:15:35.000And he created a situation where BB was dependent on him.
01:15:39.000Trump's more popular in Israel than BB.
01:15:41.000And if BB wants re-election, he's gotta play nice with Trump.
01:17:29.000Um incident marked the latest strikes and almost unbroken pattern of daily Israel attacks on Lebanese territories since the ceasefire deal was struck in November of 2024.
01:17:39.000After more than a year, fierce hostilities accumulated in two months of open war.
01:19:00.000And Peel made all this fucking big deal about like, oh, they made you sign a list of things you can't say, and it's just like, do you really think the fucking king cares about the clowns coming to the festival?
01:19:10.000Like, you think he really gives a fuck about that shit?
01:20:53.000Bro, that so it's like we got out the car and you could see the look on their faces, the parts of their faces you could see.
01:20:58.000And uh and you get they're just like, damn, man, everybody's gonna know.
01:21:03.000And it was uh, but it's funny they said um they get the girls all like Chinese cars, and I was like, why do you why do they drive the Chinese cars?
01:21:10.000And they're like, it's the cheapest cars, they're just figuring the shit out.
01:21:15.000Like imagine you're 50 and you just start driving tomorrow.
01:21:22.000I don't know, like, I don't even know if people care because like you see this shit online and like everybody feels like they need an opinion on it.
01:21:29.000I even see comics going like a lot of people have been asking my opinion on it.
01:21:32.000So like I need to give your fucking opinion.
01:21:37.000It's almost to the point where and then I ask like any regular people, they're like, they don't really care because they're watching like the six best tennis guys perform in Saudi this weekend.
01:23:37.000You know, like there's the I mean, there's that great like John Stewart story about their thing, which is like I don't even know what people know, but like John took that MTV show and Marin like ripped him for it.
01:23:47.000Oh, you sell out you pieces, how dare you do it?
01:23:49.000And then when John leaves to go do another show, guess who takes over that same show?
01:23:56.000So it's like it's one of these things where like inside the game, we all know who the pieces of shit are, and we just go, ugh, we roll our eyes at that.
01:27:02.000And like we're aware of it because we've seen them from the jump.
01:27:05.000Like if if I'm sitting down with a comedian, right?
01:27:06.000And like this is why I don't fuck with a lot of them.
01:27:08.000Is like if you immediately start talking shit about your co-host to me when I'm sitting down with you, like I I gotta start questioning your integrity a little bit.
01:27:26.000You saw and they and it's and it's like I think a lot of this is just salvation, to be honest with you.
01:27:32.000It's like they see an internet trend, and I think that like right now there's this internet trend, oh, the fucking manosphere, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:27:39.000And I think I see guys who you were very generous to, like you lent your platform, your millions of followers, the biggest show on the planet, help them make tons of money, help them really have success, build their own platforms.
01:27:52.000And now they see like an internet trend about like the manosphere or whatever.
01:27:56.000And I see guys like trying to create a little separation.
01:27:59.000I see all of a sudden it's like, yeah, you you you use this guy to make millions of dollars and get all these fans, and now you see online outrage and you're like, oh no, that's them, that's not me.
01:28:07.000It's like you had no problem being part of the Avengers.
01:28:32.000They're scared, and this is like a time of real attacks.
01:28:37.000Like in the past, like, say in the nineties or something like that, if you supported Andrew Dice Clay or something like that, like you didn't really get any heat.
01:29:00.000And why and there's other countries that are involved in that shit too.
01:29:03.000Not to be like it's not even conspiratorial, but like I think a little bit that's what the comedy festival, the Riyadh thing was a little bit.
01:29:10.000It's like they're so they're already so entrenched into like our entertainment, and then all of a sudden we went out.
01:29:15.000And I think sometimes something gets a little bit of buzz, and then people, you know, send the bots to create a little friction or separation.
01:29:55.000Like there's this this little Nepo baby, uh, he's like uh Kennedy's grandkid or some shit like that.
01:30:00.000That was like talking all the shit about it.
01:30:01.000One thing he said is that like because I called him a Neppo baby because he never had a job.
01:30:05.000I don't care if your dad is, but if you never had a real job, like you know, like what the f why are you telling people who have real jobs what to do and how they should vote and what they should do with their lives.
01:30:13.000Like you don't know how much the electrical child.
01:30:16.000And then he goes, Oh, Schultz is uh uh you know married into the Turner dynasty.
01:30:22.000Like my my wife's made a name is Turner He thinks that my wife's family is like Turner, Ted Turner.
01:30:29.000Like this is a guy who his job is journalist.
01:30:35.000He calls himself a journal and he couldn't even do the bare minimum rig.
01:30:39.000He saw another TikTok that says something that's completely untrue.
01:30:42.000The Turner Dynasty, and it'll be nice.
01:30:46.000Fuck let's go, Ted, cough it up if you've been hiding.
01:30:49.000But like this is the level, this is the level of difficult discourse, and then that shit hits TikTok, and then people start repeating things.
01:30:55.000Like, there's just so much fake stuff.
01:30:56.000Well, the dumb thing is you were already rich when you got married.
01:31:00.000Like how much the dumb thing is not her family.
01:31:03.000It's not her family, but even if it was, if you married the child of a rich family, you were already rich.
01:31:34.000And like I've seen it happen with you.
01:31:35.000And then I think that there's like there's obviously these different levels in comedy, so you don't imagine it happening to yourself, and then you're in it.
01:31:46.000Like, I'm the like there's a there's this, there's these people who say that like uh I remember when I bought back the special and then I then I sold it.
01:31:54.000And then they're like, he sold and then he put it out on YouTube.
01:31:56.000It's like there's literally a video of me going, if you can't afford it, steal it, and if you can't figure out how to steal it, I'll put it up on YouTube.
01:32:29.000We went down to South Texas, watched a rocket launch.
01:32:33.000It's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my life.
01:32:39.000I got a tour of the SpaceX facility, one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my life.
01:32:46.000I sat with Elon in the command studio where they're going over the rocket as it's flying to Australia.
01:32:53.000We watched it live using Starlink satellites, 60 different fucking cameras of everything monitoring every single aspect of the internal pressure of the chambers and all these different things.
01:33:06.000And then I was watching a video of someone calling him a fuckwit.
01:35:40.000Or there's people that are like, they're just doing it because they need views and clicks.
01:35:45.000You know, like this is and that's something that I realize is like there's this like there's this like beautiful little time in comedy where like you're everybody's hero, right?
01:35:56.000Like everybody feels like they they're the only ones that know about you.
01:36:00.000And they are the only ones that know what you're doing, and like everybody's riding.
01:36:03.000And then you do eventually, some people, if you're lucky enough or fortunate enough to transcend it, where like your name can be part of pop culture.
01:36:10.000And the benefit of that is like you get to provide for your family, you get to live your dreams, you get to do fucking arenas, it's amazing.
01:36:16.000There's a negative that we have to put up with.
01:36:18.000I'm not fucking complaining, it's awesome.
01:36:20.000But like the negative is your name can be attached to any story, your pictures attached to any story.
01:36:25.000Like, bro, I saw there was a video on the internet where it was like Joe Rogan uh ripping on his guests, and it's a picture of me and you, and I'm like, Who the fuck did this happen?
01:36:35.000Like I watched the video, we ain't even in it together.
01:36:41.000It's you and like uh what the guy who was who didn't understand, like if if you're born a man or a woman, I forget what it was that's right.
01:36:48.000It's an but it's like that guy's face isn't gonna get clicks.
01:37:24.000I like to watch I I mean, I look at my phone, it's mostly like assassinations and tits.
01:37:28.000Bro, it the the amazing thing about it is like nobody thinks they have radical thoughts because they're so normalized by every video confirming your thought.
01:38:09.000I honestly I think that's what happened to a lot of folks with with Riot, is that like there was a lot of comics that were in that like stage before pop culture, and they got their first experience of like internet backlash because they like Jessica Curzon.
01:38:24.000Jessica, who's fucking hilarious, I'm sure you've known like literally hilarious.
01:38:28.000I've had her on a bunch of times, a lover.
01:38:37.000Um, to me, I'm like, I'm I've maybe made a different view of these things.
01:38:42.000It's like I think that like Western culture is so addictive, like, once you get a taste of this shit, like this is what you want.
01:38:47.000And I think there's a version of looking at this thing where like in ten years later, they go, Yeah, we need to we need to have more of this, and we need to have more people making fun of us, and we have more people making fun of themselves, and this is beautiful like cultural exchange.
01:38:58.000That maybe that's like looking through rose colored glasses, but that's how I look at these things.
01:39:13.000And then you feel that internet backlash, you think that's real, and you're like, oh my God, I'm gonna lose everything that I've always dreamed.
01:39:50.000He kind of milked it in the best way because if you think about it, he got to tour that thing for a year and everybody was showing up to the shows because they're like, oh, I need to say that.
01:44:37.000That's the thing I was trying to tell people is like when people keep talking about free speech, it's like stop acting like that's the norm.
01:44:58.000So it's like and I remember when them truckers were protesting, they were freezing the accounts, like there's just a uniquely you know American thing, which is amazing, and we need to like protect it at all.
01:45:58.000The problem is they bring that shit over here.
01:46:00.000Just like when people shit over there.
01:46:01.000Let me tell you, in the night like 2015, 16, when I started talking shit about uh college campuses, and people are like, Why are you worried about these kids on college campuses with these Marxist ideas?
01:46:38.000Which is why it's dangerous if England goes.
01:46:40.000If England goes, if England like completely falls, like they just passed the digital or they're trying to force the digital ID on people, and they have arrested 12,000 people for social media posts, and some of them are just critical about the amount of immigration that's coming in, and they're putting them in jail for this.
01:46:58.000So if that is a trend and that starts spreading through Europe and they lock those people down, because those people don't have guns, they don't have free speech laws, they don't have any of the things that protect us.
01:47:13.000Because if it becomes a trend for the entire world, and we're the only and they're like the problem, the consequences of free speech is an unsafe society.
01:47:26.000That ends with a military dictatorship, and all those people that help them get into play, all those leftists, they all get killed.
01:47:35.000Because they're the people that are gonna re resist the government having this kind of tyrannical power that they help them get in the first place.
01:48:26.000No, no, no, I don't I don't mean that's what the problem is.
01:48:28.000No, if I say that, then I'll think I meant before like America, like as a nation state has has constantly fought to maintain this thing and went through incredibly difficult times to do it because it's like a core tenet to our belief and our identity.
01:50:22.000People to participate in attacks on a uh hotel housing asylum seekers.
01:50:29.000Comments that encouraged was overcomments that encouraged every man their dog should be smashing the fuck at a Britannia hotel.
01:50:36.000Uh the judge quotes one of his parlor posts responding to a user who said, If I'm down if you are a lad, so that he was starting off inciting violence.
01:50:47.000I mean, don't tell people to go hurt people.
01:50:50.000Your motivation became clear when you informed the police you're promoted the idea of attacking the Britannia Hotel as a result of anger and frustration and immigration problems in the country.
01:50:59.000Oh, this is you want to say that you do not want your money going to immigrants who rape our kids and get priority.
01:51:04.000The judge later said the overall effect of your post was to incite violence toward the building and therefore towards those in the hotel.
01:51:11.000It was not only the refugees and asylum seekers who are likely to be affected by your post, but also the hotel managers, the night porters, and those who worked within the hotel.
01:51:38.000It's like what what why like you have to have a special outfit for me to take you seriously?
01:51:43.000Because if you're just like a regular guy and you're saying uh you were inciting violence, and then the guy goes, Yeah, but do you know what the people in that hotel did?
01:51:51.000But let me tell you what they've done.
01:51:52.000Let me tell you those those guys, they've raped underage girls, they have grooming gangs, they live there, they're getting priority, they're getting paid our money, they're on the dole.
01:52:00.000Like you could be, you would have a conversation.
01:52:02.000This guy's yelling out to the abyss on parlor because he doesn't know where else to go.
01:53:09.000You expressed remorse, but by that time it was too late.
01:53:15.000For the offense of publishing written material in order to stir up racial hatred, there are sentencing guidelines which I must and will follow.
01:53:25.000The maximum sentence is seven years imprisonment.
01:53:31.000In my judgment, this comes close to harm category one.
01:53:35.000However, for the purposes of this sentence, I will treat you as falling into category two, since there was no direct encouragement towards activity which threatens or endangers life.
01:53:52.000However, you fall towards the top of category two.
01:53:58.000For a category two A offense, the starting point is two years' imprisonment with a range between one and four years custody.
01:54:07.000In mitigation, I take into account your plea of guilty for which you will receive full credit of one third following your earlier admissions.
01:54:18.000I take account of the contents of the references from your mother, friend, and employer.
01:54:24.000These can only be of limited value in the current circumstances, as can the contents of the pre-sentence report.
01:54:34.000I take account too of your expression of remorse, your lack of convictions which are racially aggravated.
01:54:44.000As is recognized on your behalf, this offense is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable.
01:54:55.000The sentence that I pass has been reduced by one third to reflect your guilty plea.
01:55:01.000The sentence is one of twenty months imprisonment.
01:55:21.000You know, they're very naive of how that's going to be perceived, and you know, they're just venting like they would be venting at the barbershop.
01:55:27.000If they're hanging out at the barbershop, like fuck those people, someone should go over there and kick their ass.
01:55:35.000People are looking for people also looking for community, they're looking to be feel like validated in their beliefs.
01:55:44.000Like it also pretty it is pretty wild that these people are coming over to Europe and even to America as a direct result of military campaigns.
01:55:53.000So that that's the other thing I found so funny is that like they're not going over there because where they live is awesome.
01:55:58.000And like there's reasons why it's not awesome.
01:56:02.000And there needs to be a little accountability for that.
01:56:04.000Like I heard even like uh British comedians, they were like, you know, shitting on uh you know doing the the sally or even like uh uh shows in the Middle East and they're like they they employ people at sway slave wages, etc.
01:56:17.000build it, and it's just like guys, I wonder what happened.
01:56:20.000I wonder what country did something to India back in the day that created a scenario where those people might have to leave their country to get a job to afford to provide food for their whole families back in India.
01:56:34.000I w I wonder what country might have plundered India and stripped it of all of its wealth for fucking I don't even know how long.
01:57:48.000The Congo thing is nuts, man, because a bunch of these settlers thought that they were going to live in the Congo and they set up these beautiful mansions.
01:59:32.000But in reality, there's a thing called the Bondo Ape.
01:59:35.000And there's a s I guess it is a Swedish or Swiss wildlife photographer named Carl Armand, who became obsessed with this animal and started catching it in camera traps, and there was photos of these guys at See if you can find the photo of the guys at the airport where they shot one.
01:59:52.000So these guys look at this these guys, but the that's not it.
02:00:42.000Same kind of situation, like really wild, pristine jungle, and then people are hacking it down because they're they want to make cattle farms and you know, log.
02:00:51.000But like, isn't it to the best interests of the parties that are invested in the resources there for there not to be social cohesion?
02:00:59.000Like it's easier to manage if everybody's fighting, because if there is social cohesion, you have a uh situation like what is it, Rhodesia, which just basically goes, hey, we're gonna be a great country, by the way.
02:01:09.000And we're gonna, you know, take back our mining rights and uh we're gonna make sure that we own our resources and then we're gonna educate our people, and we're gonna have a high GDP, like there's a pretty amazing story that's tied into it, and like we they're like, okay, well, we can't let that happen in the Congo.
02:01:22.000We gotta keep this shit a little bit uh chaotic.
02:01:34.000I don't know how many mines there are, but China owns a bunch of them.
02:01:37.000And you know, that's uh Saddharth Kara wrote a book on it, and he came in and he got undercover footage that shows these people with babies on their back, pulling cobalt out of the ground with like a mask over their face, like a bandana to protect themselves from the toxic fumes.
02:03:13.000And it's like, oh well, thank you, white guy.
02:03:15.000You tell us what N-words were allowed to say.
02:03:17.000Uh you can tell us where the comedians are not allowed to perform, but you tell you tell the black community what N-words you're allowed to say.
02:04:22.000And in the movie, there's like a really racist cop that's like targeting him through the whole movie, and apparently the guy was a total construct.
02:04:31.000There wasn't like one cop who was like really interested, he was chasing him that they used it as a vehicle to push the storyline, which I always think is gross when you're doing something about a historical person.
02:05:41.000So everything is so much more remarkable and amazing, and the people are so much more resilient because they've been retelling the story for two thousand years.
02:05:48.000If you want people to listen to a story, you've got to make it interesting.
02:05:54.000And the the thing is also you have to remember it and then you have to tell it to people before anybody even figures out how to write things down.
02:06:42.000But it's an original biblical text, or at least a part of the religious original religious text that they found in the sea in the um Dead Sea Scrolls in Qumran.
02:06:52.000When they found those clay tablets, the book of Enoch was in there as along with the book of Isaiah.
02:07:59.000Not only is it old as fuck, when they found it, they also found a version of the book of Isaiah.
02:08:04.000This is one of the things that Wes Huff told me that was really fascinating.
02:08:07.000They found a version of the book of Isaiah that is verbatim, the same as a version of uh the version of Isaiah that was a thousand years later, which they thought was the original.
02:08:33.000Yeah, I think we might need to do a little deep dive on the book of Enoch.
02:08:35.000The book of Enoch, it says that these watchers came down and mated with human beings and created a race of giants called the Nephilim, yeah, who consumed and destroyed everything in front of them.
02:08:52.000If you got a bunch of little chimps, and then you got these tall aliens and they make a fucking seven foot man, yeah, you know, a Viking, who's like chopping off heads and lighting villages on fire and has this undesirable uh unstoppable desire for conquest, that's humans.
02:09:27.000There's a really interesting show on PBS right now called Human, where this lady goes on this journey of uh it's like she's uh what is her degree in?
02:09:47.000The migration from across the Bering land bridge into North America, when the oldest people started coming here, where they how they came here, fascinating stuff.
02:09:58.000But that's one of those things, like if you think ancient history is filled with horseshit, like ancient human history, like of the the human uh that's the woman's name.
02:11:06.000We've done this a million times but I always forget.
02:11:09.000But so they're always finding these new versions of humans.
02:11:12.000So how many of them really were there?
02:11:15.000But if if there's a bunch of science experiments if aliens are coming down and like let's try them where they're short, really powerful and they only eat meat.
02:11:24.000And that's Neanderthal's like stop this one's not a good design.
02:11:40.000So then what part of our brain was specifically different.
02:11:42.000Aaron Ross Powell So we have a very um we we our idea of them is that they were dumb and they they couldn't talk and that they were brutes but it doesn't seem like that's true.
02:11:55.000In fact it seems like they had art they definitely had tools and they had language and they might have been as smart as us.
02:12:01.000They were just different and maybe us being a little weaker is what made us smarter.
02:12:08.000Made us work collectively maybe we're a little more alien.
02:12:11.000Just a touch there's a little too much salt in that stew.
02:12:15.000Let's add a touch more of us and you know it seems like the hairy you know five foot seven two hundred pound fucking savages with big eyes that might be able to see at night because it looks like they might have had night vision.
02:12:30.000The Neanderthal eye sockets way bigger than ours.
02:12:33.000Their skulls thicker their bones are more dense they might have had night vision like a dog.
02:12:39.000You know how dogs their eyes glow when the headlights hit 'em they might have had that same ability I mean yeah I don't know why that design's too that design's too sketchy it's just not really they can see at night yeah and then they go hunting other people this is too much but then we hunted them maybe we might have just fucked them.
02:12:59.000I also heard we fucked them you're like I got a little bit of yeah one more time with the monkeys but in terms of like the stories like you know when you know when a comic gets off stage and like they think they killed but they bombed?
02:13:48.000I've never met any politician or any person who's in charge of anything that's like really important that I would say never lies.
02:13:57.000So if you're back then where there's zero accountability, zero video, zero anything they can't even write.
02:14:04.000Well that's where the cross referencing makes sense, right?
02:14:06.000It's like that's when you got a bunch of different people saying the same thing or similar things you just have to go, okay, maybe this this did happen.
02:14:13.000But I don't know there's something there is something about it.
02:14:16.000You know like every time I go to church and like whatever something about the music I get like emotional and I try I've tried to like reflect on it and understand like what it is I don't know if it's like seeing people submit to this power that's greater than them.
02:14:31.000I don't there's just like I get there really emotional about it.
02:14:34.000I don't know what the hell it is well it's a it's a combined shared experience that you're having with all the people that are in that building too.
02:14:43.000And I'm just like watching yeah like maybe it's I like maybe I'm a little cynical and skeptical and like I can get caught up in the raw emotion of submitting to something that you cannot control.
02:14:58.000And maybe there's a part of me that that really kind of like envies that and and wants to in the same way that like a lot of control.
02:15:05.000I don't know if I have any but like You have a lot of discipline.
02:15:10.000Yeah, but a person who like yourself does a lot of discipline and a lot of work ethic, that doesn't come without control over yourself.
02:15:54.000And like I asked him if he saw Oasis, because you know, Oasis is is back.
02:15:58.000And um You're a fan of Oasis, yeah, love them.
02:16:01.000And what's so interesting is happening like with with Oasis specifically is uh right now we don't live in like the monoculture anymore.
02:16:08.000You know, like there's a thousand different silos and everybody thinks that like the thing happening in their world is the most important thing.
02:16:14.000There's no like universal new rock star.
02:16:16.000Like Justin Bieber might have been like the last person that was like a musician that everybody knows.
02:16:21.000There's a K-pop band that none of us can name the guys that is the biggest band in the world.
02:16:25.000But like back in the day, especially when we were growing up, there were bands that were just un metallica like performing in Russia.
02:16:33.000You know, like these things were just kind of there was a monoculture, and then the internet has divided that, and that just is what it is.
02:16:39.000But what's kind of interesting is I feel like people are the people who did experience monoculture, they're going back to these like nostalgic events.
02:16:47.000It's like why existing IP movies are the only movies that work, right?
02:16:51.000It's like they want to feel those moments when we all were experiencing the same thing at the same time.
02:16:56.000And like I'm seeing these like Oasis clips.
02:16:58.000Like all my boys, I was on Australia, but all my boys went to go see Oasis.
02:17:01.000And like there's a really interesting thing.
02:17:04.000The uh the lead singer, uh I guess is it Noel or Liam is the lead singer.
02:17:12.000Like he's just wearing like fucking like the month and like to me, I'm like, that's the most rock star shit.
02:17:18.000Wearing the big flamboyant thing was rock star when everybody was wearing suits.
02:17:23.000But now that everybody is big flamboy, just showing up in a fucking hoodie to your fucking stadium show, it just lets you know like I'll do whatever I'm gonna be the damn gonna throw it.
02:19:31.000It's just like if I think that this person is going to completely change my life and completely strip me of everything I have, anybody that supports that person and that person are completely evil.
02:19:46.000Well, the people that have an argument about that are Mexican immigrants.
02:19:50.000Especially the children of Mexican immigrants who maybe their family, maybe they're illegal because they were born here, but their parents aren't and they're realizing their parents might get kicked out.
02:20:16.000Like you want to make sure that you have a government program that can enforce the borders and also like remove people that are here illegally, especially people that are doing criminal activity.
02:20:26.000Like this is an institution that we shouldn't malign.
02:20:29.000This is one that we should be proud of.
02:21:05.000Like we know we work with these people and you see them grinding, like I don't know.
02:21:09.000Yeah, that's a very frustrating thing.
02:21:12.000I think their problem with it is multifaceted, but I think one of the issues is the way the census works.
02:21:18.000Because the way the census works, you get congressional seats based on the amount of people that live in an area, regardless of whether or not those people are citizens.
02:21:56.000But the point is it doesn't matter if they're illegal.
02:21:58.000So if you fill out a sentence and you're illegal, it doesn't matter.
02:22:02.000You it's it just matters how many people are in this area, and that dictates how many congressional seats you get.
02:22:07.000So if you can abort a bunch of people, also if you encourage these people to fill out the census because it's politically beneficial to your party, right?
02:22:14.000Especially if you help those people get in.
02:22:17.000So if you invited them into this country, actually flew them out to that place, put them up in hotels, that kind of deal, then you can get more congressional seats because you have more human beings.
02:22:26.000Like a lot of people chalk it up to uh they're giving these people voting rights, and it's like, no, that's not what's happening.
02:22:32.000They're actually increasing the amount of representatives you could have in a certain district.
02:22:36.000They are, but then we went over this yesterday in Tim Wals's state in Minnesota, they actually passed a law where they give them driver's licenses and they could use those driver's licenses to vote.
02:22:48.000It's not legal, but someone could break the law and do it with those driver's licenses.
02:22:54.000The problem is they know that some people have.
02:22:56.000There definitely have been instances where illegal aliens have voted for whatever election.
02:23:03.000So the question is did they move them there for congressional seats, did they move them there for cheap labor?
02:23:10.000Did they move them there because if they they pay for these people and give them ABT cards and then eventually they devise a pathway to citizenship if they get like a Democrat in in four years, we have to take care of our community regardless of whether you can if you're a good person, a hardworking person, we want you to join team America.
02:24:28.000You know, you know uh you know Carlos Slim is.
02:24:31.000You've heard of Carlos Slim, he's like a telecommunication magnet, he's like wealthiest guy to Mexico, but they're all over the world.
02:24:36.000He's like you know, super billionaire.
02:24:38.000And um apparently out of you know, this is a second hand, but like uh he's this guy who I don't know what he looks like, but I'm aware of his name.
02:25:03.000Like I was like, how do I make sure these guys don't meet my wife?
02:25:08.000Like it's fucking horrifying that book.
02:25:09.000But um But yeah, he had an interesting thing, but like I'm always impressed by these guys who have all this power, but they don't want any of the limelight.
02:25:17.000Like I don't know what he looks like, but I know the name and I know he's involved in everything.
02:25:22.000And uh apparently he said something like um even billionaires can be new to money.
02:25:29.000Implying that like a lot of the guys that we see, we hear, the guys that are all over the place, like they're new to this, and they on some level want it to be known that they got it.
02:25:40.000And the people who've maybe done it for you know, legacy generations, they're like, you actually get yourself in more trouble the more people know.
02:25:51.000But it's hard to like be broken and get some money and not want to flex it.
02:25:54.000Well, even if you don't want to flex it, if you just have it, like if you're Jeff Bezos, you're out in the middle of the Caribbean you know, with Lauren Sanchez chilling on a yacht.
02:26:03.000There's someone with a drone taking photos of it.
02:26:05.000I mean, you also do your wedding in Venice, like you want to flex it.
02:27:02.000I think I define myself being able to miss the wedding.
02:27:06.000Well, there's also a thing that we actually make stuff ourselves rather than have to uh get hired to go make us stuff.
02:27:16.000You know, like you'll do a movie occasionally if you want to, but you make your own comedy, you make your own podcast, you make your own stuff.
02:27:24.000When you're an actor and you don't make your own stuff and you gotta appear in other people's stuff, there's a whole different layer of bullshit that you have to dance with.
02:28:10.000Yeah, like get those people, and they're like, yeah, fuck Schultz, yeah.
02:28:14.000Folk broke and fuck everybody, but I mean, that's the that's gotta be the worst thing, is like to be a comic that only gets attention when you talk about comedy.
02:28:46.000Like that's what's bothering you in the world.
02:28:48.000But I think I think that's what happened with just the whole like what's happening right now with the comedy economy, it's like I think people are feeling I think I think young comics are probably feeling a little bit like concerned that they don't know the way forward.
02:29:01.000They also don't know whether or not they're being forced to participate in these pylons or whether they should back off.
02:29:07.000And then they get pressure and they don't know what to do.
02:29:09.000Like I cut young guys and young women a lot more slack than I do the OGs, these people that have been around for a long time.
02:29:18.000And you should know that this is not fair, it's not cool.
02:29:21.000And it you also should if you have an opinion on what these people are doing with whatever, whether it's Riyadh or whether have some kind of compassion for these people as human beings and as colleagues, and be charitable.
02:29:42.000I try to be very charitable when I talk about anybody that I'm not like in a like a real serious thing, like a Mark Barron type thing with.
02:30:29.000The actual official tallies, like 67,000 people dead.
02:30:36.000It's gonna be more than that, but Steven Dozinger uh had a thing on his page where there's some human rights group that estimates it to be as high as four hundred thousand.
02:30:45.000Yeah, because I don't think they count missing as dead yet.
02:30:48.000I mean there's no way there's no way they know.
02:31:31.000It's uh they they were breaking this guy's bones with boulders.
02:31:34.000They had this guy blindfolded and he was sitting down and they took this enormous rock and threw it on his shin and snapped his shin in half.
02:32:09.000And then I watched, I was like, oh God.
02:32:12.000But that's yeah, that's the that's the tricky thing right now is because I think that like as far as we've been comedians, there's been like a clear path of how to make it.
02:32:20.000It didn't mean that it was accessible to everybody, but like when you're growing up, I'm sure it's like get an HBO special.
02:32:26.000When I'm coming up, it was HBO, and then it transitioned to come on the Joe Rogan podcast.
02:33:31.000I put a YouTube special out, but like it seems like there's a hundreds of YouTube specials out, so it's like I don't know if that's gonna be the thing that breaks me.
02:33:38.000So I think that the younger comics are kind of experiencing this thing where they're like, I don't know the pathway forward.
02:33:45.000Someone's gonna do the thing that I did that you did where you just try something new and then it catches on and fucking that dominates what it is.
02:33:52.000But like I think they're in this pi this period where like I don't know what to do.
02:33:56.000And when you don't know what to do and you're not where you want to be, that's where I think the bitterness starts to come out.
02:34:02.000Well, you also don't know what the path forward is and if it there it's ever gonna arrive for you, or if you're just gonna be like on the outside forever.
02:34:09.000So you're toiling in obscurity, and then you're just and then you start to feel resentful.
02:34:13.000Before you might feel resentful and angry, but you're like, you know what, there might be a chance Joe could see me, he'll bring me on his podcast, and then I can have all this fucking success.
02:34:20.000And it's like so I do empathize with that like anger, but the knee-jerk reaction to just shit on everything and try to shit on the scene and like shit on Austin or like shit on these things.
02:34:33.000I I don't think they realize that that's not gonna get them any closer.
02:34:37.000It will get him like immediate attention.
02:34:39.000A bunch of their comedian friends around them are gonna click and like and do these things, but it's not gonna be that long-term sustained career.
02:34:45.000You don't build a fan base by going, I don't like that place.
02:34:49.000You also alienate the newest scene in the world.
02:34:52.000You alienate people who actually help you.
02:35:13.000Like if you're on the outside, you see all these people having so much fun in the garden, you're like, you I can't even I'm not even in there.
02:35:20.000It's not, but it's an appearance of a walled garden.
02:35:22.000And then I think that there's like people on another level up that we were saying earlier that are like seeing these like people talk shit about it, and they're getting concerned that it could like negatively impact them in a way.
02:35:42.000Yeah, like not too much, where it's like, oh, I'd like to come on your pot, but I'll have a guy who's gonna shit on you for the whole fucking episode and not give you pushback.
02:35:48.000It's like and it's not just him, like I've seen other people do it, and it's just like, dude, dude, dude, you're gonna go through some cancel shit later, all these guys.
02:35:54.000They're gonna go through something later.
02:35:56.000And they had a guy that they could call that would bring them on the biggest platform platform in the world and let them explain themselves, have their back.
02:36:53.000Even if you got your friend's back when he's going through some shit, even if you disagree with that person did, like baseline human, you go, Yeah.
02:36:59.000I kind of would want that guy as a friend.
02:37:01.000There was a video of Trump on Letterman when uh I think it's Letterman, I'm pretty sure it's Letterman.
02:37:07.000Trump when uh Mike Tyson got convicted.
02:37:11.000And bro, it's like the most unpopular opinion in the world.
02:37:15.000He goes, I think is his attorneys were terrible.
02:37:18.000They had the worst defense I've ever heard in my life.
02:37:20.000This girl came up to his room at 1 a.m.
02:37:23.000They said she was dancing a few hours later, she was hanging out with people, having a good time.
02:37:28.000She came over, took off her panty shield in the in his bathroom.
02:37:32.000Like and she'd also accused someone of rape uh that wasn't that was unjustly accused of rape.
02:38:07.000There's a lot of these people that are like a salamander that's never gone through its final developmental changes, and they're they s they're stuck in like an adolescent stage of evolution forever.
02:38:16.000There's there's there's men that are like that.
02:38:21.000And maybe it's because I like know guys like you and like Charlemagne who like I see them going through shit, and I see people like will try to like get me to talk to it's like it ain't gonna happen.
02:38:35.000So if you want to have that conversation, we're gonna have it, but like you're not gonna like the way it goes because these people are my friends, like real friends.
02:40:39.000And so then people didn't know that he was gonna be with me in Salt Lake City.
02:40:43.000So we're in the back of the room, and I announce the opening act.
02:40:48.000And I said, ladies and gentlemen, one of my best friends, Tony Henchcliffe, and they went, Yeah, they stood up, arms raised, like, fuck yeah.
02:40:58.000It was part of it was because I was supporting him.
02:41:00.000He was going through it was public, it was in the middle of everything, and the he went up and destroyed the love that he got from those people, and then he went and just ran with it.
02:41:12.000And he had material on it, he was already talking about it, and it's just uh it was beautiful, but it was beautiful to watch him realize like, oh, I'm gonna be okay.
02:41:28.000Like that's the and I think people see that also.
02:41:31.000Like I think there's people in the crowd that see that, and I think on a primal level, they go, Man, if I got caught up in some fuck shit, I would really like it if my friend had my back.
02:41:40.000If people were saying things about me that my friends know were false, and they use their platforms to talk or you know, put me on or whatever it is.
02:41:49.000I think deep down viscerally they go, Oh, that's a good guy.
02:41:52.000You gotta try to like help people you know, I tried to get Steve Renazizi on when that 9 11 stuff happened, yeah, and he decided to go on Stern instead.
02:42:03.000And I was like, okay, but I'm telling you, I if I have you on, I can navigate it a little more compassionately.
02:43:38.000He's like, I've been through this fucking storm before.
02:43:40.000I'm just gonna tie down these sails and ride this motherfucker out.
02:43:47.000But if he hadn't been through that, that would have been even more devastating because then you're getting canceled by CNN and New York Times and you know they had stories pre-written, ready to go, blaming the loss of Trump on Tony Hinchcliffe.
02:44:02.000And then the Latino went vote went up by 15%.
02:44:05.000He said Tony said the first night he slept was the night that I endorsed Trump.
02:44:39.000They're not gonna be sensitive about anything.
02:44:40.000Now, what I would have told Zoni and like what I said to him is like, I wish you had told me like what the set is, because like New Yorkers have this idea of Puerto Rico as this like beautiful Caribbean island.
02:44:49.000It's like our first vacation in New York when we go to a fancy place, it's Puerto Rico.
02:44:53.000So I think when he was connecting it to the the the island of garbage, which I knew where he's going.
02:44:59.000There was like a island of garbage floating in the Pacific Atlantic or the Pacific, Pacific Garbage Pass.
02:45:06.000So it was actually he was bringing it to something that was a popular story like a year or two ago.
02:45:11.000But New Yorkers don't know what the fuck is floating.
02:46:17.000And like I do think like in general, like us just having politicians on and like even going to the rally or way, where it's like I think what's happened is that we've politicized ourselves and like we've brought ourselves into the game of politics, Which is the ugliest game.
02:48:05.000There's like, and someone always been here, and they're even more rooted in their insanity because it's rewarded every time they go on their phone.
02:49:23.000Like if you had Trump on the podcast, that's the event, and then ignorant people just start yapping out their opinion.
02:49:30.000The funniest thing is, and I want them to have opinions.
02:49:31.000No, you guys think it's a beautiful thing.
02:49:33.000I'll never tell anybody not to say anything.
02:49:34.000But like the funniest thing about the Trump pot is that like initially it was Kamala's campaign and the Democrats like loving the interview.
02:50:49.000Um I'm not supporting anything, just be really clear, ladies and gentlemen.
02:50:54.000Um but if you are if you have relationships with all these insanely wealthy people that are gonna be hurt by this fairly impacted by this.
02:51:05.000Like this is the ultimate political football.
02:51:09.000Because uh I don't know what the numbers are, I don't know who the people are, but I've heard things, and if those things are true, you're dealing with some of the most powerful people in the world, some of the wealthiest people in the world.
02:53:58.000Like this is too Fitzsimmons and I were laughing about that once.
02:54:01.000We saw this person go on stage and then afterwards we went into the back parking lot, and Greg's like, Well, I can't be friends with them anymore.
02:55:24.000I had a bit about how like there's certain words that are offensive, but wouldn't it be better if instead of like banning these words, if like the government issued like retard tags, like hunting tags, like you get five a year, you just gotta know when to use them.
02:55:41.000You know, and these people were just This is fascism.
02:55:49.000But I would be like, you do not want to go outside on December 31st with all the retard tags are going because everybody's got three extra retard tags they gotta use.
02:56:37.000And so they're like, they have a sour, like, oh no, he doesn't know.
02:56:40.000It's like if somebody was talking to someone in the crowd before and everybody knows about that person, and then you're doing something completely unrelated, and they're like, Oh yeah.
02:56:47.000He doesn't know that like she just lost her husband.
02:56:57.000That's what that's what Charlamagne loves.
02:57:00.000He's just so he's like at his core, he's like a real like comedian at his core.
02:57:04.000Like to the point like he he'll love bombing, like box watching people bomb, he like really likes that.
02:57:09.000He think it's I think it's like a full emotion to him.
02:57:11.000And uh so at the end of the the show in Read, we brought Alex Media who's on the show, and he had to do one joke in front of everybody, and like the joke is pretty good.
02:57:20.000Alex is a black dude, and he's like, you know, it's cool to be here, you know.
02:57:23.000I'll be honest, like I see these outfits, and uh it's the only time I'm surrounded by guys in uh in white sheets that I don't feel like they're gonna kill me, or something like that.
02:57:31.000Like some little cutesy joke, and then uh Charlamagne goes, Nah, bro, like they're treating you like the autistic kid that gets it going in the fourth quarter.
02:57:41.000The ball boy for the That joke wasn't it, bro.
02:57:44.000He's like uh uh uh they think that you have autism and they're giving you a shot at the end of the season.
02:59:53.000But he would like we would like catch people doing stuff.
02:59:57.000Most of it is like insurance fraud, but we'd have to like wait for them in front of their house at like four o'clock in the morning for them to get up and have like a fake job.
03:00:04.000Where they were like, pretending to be disabled, uh, I burned my back at work, but really they were roofing somewhere, and we would catch them.
03:01:24.000And some of them, you know, that do try to do comedy like that never figure out how to translate it, which is really weird.
03:01:31.000I think I think it's uh it's almost too easy for them in conversation, so they don't do the work to transition it to stage.
03:01:40.000Or they have this idea of what they're supposed to be on stage, and it's very different than what they are when they're with their friends.
03:01:46.000That's the first thing I tell like young comics that ask for advice.
03:01:48.000I just go, How are you funniest around the people you're most comfortable with?
03:01:55.000Like the people you're most comfortable with, how are you funny?
03:01:59.000And that I think is like the easiest way to access like your voice or whatever we call it, and then just add 10 years of trying to figure that out.
03:03:27.000And uh Scary Joey uh gave in to Fat Joey, and then uh Mitzi Shore started calling him Fat Baby, and that's all she would put him on as the on the the lineup.
03:07:47.000Like, so if they're getting a babysitter, they're doing the whole thing, and then they see the thing they saw before, it's like maybe they have a good time, but there's a little part of them they feel maybe taken advantage of in some way.
03:07:54.000Well, some of them they'll want to see bits again.
03:07:57.000Like that's like the hot pockets thing with Gaff again.
03:07:59.000But I feel like they want to see that.
03:10:22.000But that first minute, but what's great is when there is some sort of controversy or some big news story, and like everybody's thinking about it, and they're going, is he gonna talk about it?
03:10:31.000Like, I'm sure anytime you went through something, and the first time you hit the stage, you can feel them.
03:13:56.000Like you had the mushrooms rolling, we were smoking weed, and then you just start talking about bears, and all of us are just like open mouthed, these fucking claws are calling.
03:14:06.000The wild world is like you should be in touch with that.
03:14:08.000Everybody should be in touch with that.
03:14:10.000People have a ridiculous idea what the wild world is.
03:14:12.000A buddy of mine sent me a video that his buddy took of he's in Colorado and he's driving down the street.
03:16:15.000But like a lot of times they're going for the week, or they're going for the wounded or going for the babies, because if you go for like the big dogs, it's gonna be a more difficult, you're gonna expend more energy to kill them.
03:17:16.000They they sort of have some sort of psychic communication with each other.
03:17:19.000Oh, you you think that they coordinate and they don't know exactly how they do it, but they figure out traps while like one wolf will come in and they'll have other wolves flank the animals, so the animals start to scatter and the wolves come in from the sides and get them.
03:18:27.000And they're just being fed like propaganda constantly from you know their own countries.
03:18:32.000I just I like wonder what happens when all those guys come home and they're clearly traumatized.
03:18:38.000But everybody else has just been consuming the propaganda about just, oh, look what these doing and they're fighting for us, and everything is amazing, and we're winning the war, and all this positivity that's probably emanating through news.
03:18:48.000And then these guys come home and they start sharing like the actual stories.
03:19:09.000Well, Cormac McCarthy, there's a the craziest um Who's the guy who directed the craziest uh headline of all time is connected to Cormac McCarthy?
03:20:41.000McCarthy went into her bedroom and emerged wearing lingerie.
03:20:44.000Her boyfriend probably thought, oh great, reconciliation, sex time.
03:20:48.000Sorry for being skeptical of your out-of-body experience, hun, until McCarthy pulled a Swithin Wesson out of her vagina and proceeded to have intercourse with the gun.
03:21:16.000Um, so she was she was telling him about having some sort of an alien abduction experience, and he didn't want to believe he thought she was crazy.
03:21:40.000I mean, imagine you get abducted by aliens and you have to tell people, and you're like a person who wants to be taken seriously in all their walks of life, and you have to tell them that they drain your sperm on a spaceship and showed you hybrids.
03:21:52.000That's why I I kind of I like believe the Lazar dude, like when we went to dinner, yeah.
03:21:57.000He was he was like shell shocked a little bit.
03:22:26.000For 40 years, people have been thinking you're out of your fucking mind.
03:22:29.000You're a liar, you make Things up and then over time all of a sudden footage starts emerging in like 2017 of these crafts doing exactly what you described, moving in a way that's exactly like what you were saying.
03:22:42.000And then there starts getting these whistleblowers, these David Grushes and Lou Elizondo say we have a crash retrieval program.
03:24:03.000They have found through the use of uh uh ground penetrating radar, they found these labyrinths in Egypt that are so fucking huge and under underground, like deep underground, but these massive like corridors that lead into these atriums, like m and they found a forty meter long metallic object that's under the ground in Egypt.
03:24:32.000Forty meters long, metallic, some unknown metal that's under the ground and it doesn't uh whatever it is, they know it's metallic, it doesn't have any sort of signature that is reminiscent of any other metal that we know about.
03:24:46.000It was a specific it was a specific historical site, I think that was found in each.
03:24:57.000But yeah, this is not like uh like a fragment of people's imagination, like this is something historically documented throughout time for thousands of years.
03:25:04.000And that Herodotus talked about it being greater than the pyramids of Giza underground.
03:25:10.000And since so in 1960, um Ben was telling us in the sixties they uh built a dam and you know to help the farmers in the the area, and unfortunately it raised the water table.
03:25:21.000Oh, and that's fucked it up and it flooded these labyrinths because otherwise they would have just been able to dig down into it and enter in and now it's all filled with water.
03:25:30.000Is it filled with water or sediment because of the expansion of the water?
03:25:33.000It's both, and uh there's sediment, of course, that comes with the water, but there's water, but then below the water table is where the labyrinth.
03:25:41.000So he's saying there might be a way that they could tunnel from the side past where the water comes in, but they don't want to admit that it's real.
03:25:47.000Like all these Egyptologists are kind of like down about it.
03:26:30.000Like if I was from there and I was upset with what was going on and I complained about it, and the guy who's in charge says, Oh, you're just deranged.
03:26:37.000Yeah, listen, you don't see a similar uprising against Florida.
03:27:24.000But in some states you have to pay tax on the amount of money your house is worth.
03:27:28.000Is it the justification that like this is what maintains the streets and this is what makes the community?
03:27:32.000Well, the justification is like, say if you buy a two million dollar home, you should be contributing with your property taxes to schools and all sorts of other things, which totally makes sense.
03:27:41.000But the problem is, like, if you're eighty years old and you bought this house for $20,000 and you're on social security, and now all of a sudden you owe money on something you already bought to a gruv a government that's a terrible job of using your money.
03:29:48.000Very religious person who has a really good point.
03:29:51.000When he talks about Texas, like there's these very, very wealthy billionaires that are trying to turn the state into theocracy, and they want to uh that's why they got the Ten Commandments pushed into every school, all the public schools here.
03:30:01.000He's like, they want to defund public schools and fund religious schools, and he's like, these people are dangerous.
03:30:22.000He might agree with all those things that they're pushing, but he's like, I don't think it's to be like governmently enforced in schools.
03:30:28.000He's very well versed in the Bible and is literally in seminary right now.
03:30:32.000Like this is a guy that's very religious, like legitimately religious and has been his whole life.
03:30:37.000But that's the thing, you need to shake shit up, and you especially need to shake shit up with your own party.
03:30:40.000I mean, that's what Trump did with Republicans.
03:30:42.000That's what any candidate that ends up winning does is you have to be like the candidate of rebellion to a certain extent.
03:30:48.000Like you've even seen what's happened in New York right now.
03:30:50.000Like you could hate every policy that Mom Donnie has, but you can't deny that he's at least saying things that tap into the concerns and frustrations of New Yorkers.
03:31:02.000You left those people out of the conversation.
03:31:04.000And now the chickens have come home to roost.
03:31:06.000So it's like I will not at all I'll I won't at all criticize him for trying to fix problems that people have when the other guys there are just saying we're not gonna do anything.
03:31:30.000Like you have to give people you have to give people hope, and oftentimes hope is being the candidate of rebellion, and that usually is what ends up winning.
03:31:38.000Do you see the people ragging on her conversation with Kara Swisher?
03:31:42.000She was on stage with Karis Wisher, and she even Karis Wish was kind of like ragging on her a little bit.
03:31:46.000She was like, uh, you know, uh a lot of some people said that I was the most qualified person to ever run for president.
03:34:10.000We're gonna acknowledge the fact that we're on stolen land.
03:34:13.000But the thing, the thing is, these people that go along with that are also the same people that want no borders, and uh no one's illegal being anywhere.
03:34:21.000Like Christopher Columbus is the only immigrant they hate.
03:34:26.000Yo, that was there was like that's like you know, no one's illegal.
03:34:33.000Hey, listen, but yeah, these people shouldn't have been here.
03:34:35.000We let a Spanish-speaking guy into America once.
03:35:18.000It's like it's like you go into the doctor, you got lung cancer, and the doctor's like, let's talk about all them cigarettes you were smoking.
03:35:24.000And it's like, why don't we talk about all that chemo you're gonna give me?
03:35:27.000Like, tell me what we're gonna do now to get rid of this shit.
03:35:30.000Right, don't tell me about what I did.