On this week's episode, the boys discuss the latest in the Los Angeles Police Department's handling of the Black Lives Matter protests in the city. They also discuss the recent decision by the Department of Justice to stop investigating hate crimes, and whether or not this is a good or bad thing.
00:04:12.000But it's almost like, so there's a very old joke about Venezuela where God was creating Venezuela and he was like, you know what I'm going to do?
00:04:20.000I'm going to make sure they have diamonds, they have gold, they have desert, but they also have jungle, they have beautiful beaches, it's going to be rich in oil and the whole, and then the entire world goes hey that's unfair like they've got to have something bad and god goes yeah you know what you're right let's give them the venezuelans and that's almost like that with california you're like california's too perfect you know what i mean it's got everything you need right so what are you gonna do you've got to give them something fucked up and it's just these crazy people who believe in these stupid ideas but
00:06:57.000If you live in a society where it's comparatively the easiest it's ever been and your life is boring because all you do is get up, you go to work, you have food, you commute, you come back.
00:07:23.000Well, it's also just that's what you're going to watch.
00:07:27.000And so you're getting sucked into it just because of the algorithm, which is crazy.
00:07:31.000No one ever considered algorithms before.
00:07:33.000We considered access to information, but we didn't consider that information we curated to hold your attention span.
00:07:40.000And all these factors have not been studied well.
00:07:42.000There's been a few guys like Jonathan Haight writing about it, a few scholars that are really attempting to say, hey, what's the sociological and what is the long-term consequences of this happening also for children?
00:07:55.000These are the first children in human history growing up on social media.
00:08:02.000Like what is it going to change in terms of empathy, in terms of hostility, acceptance of violence, which is a completely brand new thing on the left.
00:08:10.000Acceptance and celebration of gun violence.
00:08:12.000Never happened before when I was a kid.
00:08:51.000people these words like if you and i and francis thought the nazis were here to take over we'd all fight them so what do you expect people to do when you put you're putting the target on people's backs you are 100 and you're doing it in just for political persuasion power.
00:10:55.000Well, what's really interesting is she put a clip on her social media where she goes, and she set up this new far-left political party.
00:11:02.000And she says, we've got to fight fascists in parliament.
00:11:05.000We've got to fight them in the ballot box.
00:11:07.000And you're going, all right, look, I don't like the rhetoric.
00:11:10.000And then she says something even more interesting.
00:11:12.000And we've got to fight them in the streets.
00:11:15.000Now you think to yourself, right, if you classify Nigel Farage and the people who vote reform in the UK, which may well win the general election, which may well be the biggest political party and already represents a sizable portion of the UK, you're effectively advocating violence.
00:11:35.000And it's incitement to violence as far as I'm concerned.
00:11:38.000But because she's on the far left, she's deemed to be a good person, that's somehow okay.
00:11:43.000Whereas if Nigel said something like that along those lines, you know that people would be like, this is a fascist, this is evil, this is disgusting, you shouldn't say that.
00:11:51.000You're also weaponizing mental illness.
00:11:54.000Because one of the things that we know now very clearly because of all these YouTube videos, all these people that go to these protests and start interviewing folks, some of these people are clearly not well.
00:12:05.000And this is the thing they've attached themselves to.
00:12:37.000Oh, yeah, you've done some great interviews at those protests.
00:12:40.000Yeah, it's just when they're confronted with a person who's actually asking them questions, it's remarkable how few people know why they're there.
00:18:09.000Socialist Intifada combines two distinct ideas, the Arabic concept of Intifada, intifada, and the political ideology of socialism.
00:18:17.000So, the meaning of intifada means shaking off or uprising in Arabic, and historically refers to popular resistance movements, particularly the Palestinian uprising against Israel occupation in 1987 and 2000.
00:18:30.000It denotes collective rebellion, often led by the oppressed, using acts of protest, civil disobedience, and sometimes violence to resist injustice and occupation.
00:18:49.000That's a human addition to this thing.
00:18:52.000Socialist, socialist intifada, refers to the framing of the uprising not merely as a national liberation struggle, but as a class-based social revolution.
00:19:01.000Marxists and socialist movements view such an intifada as a mass movement of workers and a youth using class struggle methods.
00:19:35.000And you're fucking up everybody else's lives.
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00:20:54.000But you know, we also have to take responsibility for this: the adults, the people, the colleges, all those people need to take responsibility.
00:21:01.000So I did, I went to a Palestine protest at UCLA last year in May time.
00:21:08.000And there were, I thought it was run by the kids.
00:21:11.000There were a lot of adults there who weren't students at UCLA.
00:21:15.000And the kids, when they saw, some of the kids, when they saw what I was doing and I was doing interviews, they were like, he doesn't go to my college.
00:22:45.000But she posted something on her Twitter yesterday that shows all the people that donated to the No Kings protests and the number of corporations that donated and how much money is involved in it.
00:25:08.000Especially if you've got a lot of money and you're organizing and you get on Facebook and get involved in them groups and you use the bots and all the bots.
00:25:17.000And we show up in mass and let him know he's not king.
00:25:21.000And it's also as well, you know, what I find really fascinating from a psychological perspective is the use of chance in that you go to these protests, you watch, and it's all about chanting.
00:25:32.000And you, and what's so powerful is a chance rhyme.
00:25:35.000And, you know, it almost becomes musical and the crowd just gets whipped up in the fervor of the chance.
00:25:41.000But you look at what the chance actually mean.
00:25:44.000And most of the times they're utterly nonsensical.
00:25:47.000Like there was one which was, we won't be free until Palestine is free.
00:25:52.000And you go, what does that actually mean?
00:25:55.000What does that actually, are you not free?
00:25:57.000I think this is a, well, I mean, not in the UK, but I mean, here in the US, you're pretty free.
00:26:37.000The problem is if you're organizing a protest and paying people to protest, and if there's documentation that the metadata from the cell phones are the same from protest to protest, and that they're traveling on buses that's paid for with tax dollars, like, hold on.
00:28:42.000You know, the thing that we have in this country, I don't know if you have it in this country as much, is just the way the policing is biased.
00:28:48.000The way that they will arrest Graham Linehan for three relatively innocuous tweets, one of them was a joke, and they will arrest him the moment he lands on British soil.
00:29:52.000When I tell people that don't know that 12,000 people this year were arrested in Britain for posting things on social media, their jaw drops.
00:30:02.000I go, dude, they're going crazy over there.
00:30:06.000You have to pay attention because this kind of shit is contagious.
00:30:08.000And if it gets into Germany and then it gets into Spain or it gets into other countries, like it can become a real fucking problem.
00:30:15.000Like, then you have full-on military dictatorship in England because that's what it always leads to.
00:30:21.000It 100% leads to military dictatorship.
00:30:23.000If you're telling people they can't do things and you're trying to install socialism and then you get it in place, there's only one way to keep it in place.
00:31:23.000I mean, it got so ridiculous in the UK that the Supreme Court had to get involved to make a decision whether boys had pee-pees and girls have foo-fus.
00:31:43.000Well, how about when they asked when Supreme Court Justice Katanji Brown Jackson was being sworn in when they were talking to her during the confirmation part?
00:32:35.000And no one gives a fuck if you're a woman and you pretend to be a man because you're not going to victimize men.
00:32:40.000That's the dirty little thing that they're covering up about all this is you're opening up the door to people that now have a Willy Wonka golden ticket to pretend that they're a woman and be around women.
00:32:53.000And then dominate women's spaces and dominate women's sports and dominate all kinds of things that women are involved in just with their personalities.
00:33:01.000Like the overbearing fucking shitty male personalities overbearing and taking over women's groups.
00:33:18.000And they think that because they're a woman, it's OK for this woman, this trans woman to do violence on a biological woman, which is like bananas.
00:33:26.000Like now we're now we're allowing men to beat up women because they say they're a woman.
00:33:34.000Well, no, that's not what that is at all.
00:33:36.000This is you just did something that's completely insane.
00:33:40.000And it's a giant chunk of the population that accept that.
00:33:45.000And if you say something about it, then you're transphobic or you're you're hateful or you're a part of the patriarchy or whatever, fill in the blank with whatever the problem is.
00:34:47.000But you can't you can't simultaneously have empathy for women, as you're describing, and also for people who want to be the opposite sex in a women's bathroom.
00:34:57.000Those two things are in direct conflict.
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00:37:26.000But you know, what's really fascinating is a cognitive dissonance that these people have.
00:37:31.000Because on the one hand, they'll say that we live in a patriarchal rape culture where women are subjugated and oppressed, and you know, and how awful it is for women.
00:37:40.000And then on the other hand, they're like, yeah, right, Derek, you now say you're a woman.
00:38:21.000But a lot of it deals with autogynophilia, where Ed Gain used to wear his mom's clothes and he would jack off.
00:38:27.000And then he started, after his mom died, he tried to dig his mom up.
00:38:32.000He couldn't, dug somebody else up, brought her back, skinned her, started wearing her clothes, wearing her skin, and then started killing women and wearing their skin.
00:38:40.000First, he started robbing graves and then cutting up them and turning their skin into furniture and all kinds of shit.
00:38:48.000But trans communities are complaining about this because the fact that he was a cross-dressing psychopath, it puts them in danger.
00:39:00.000A true story about a guy who was really into dressing up like women and wearing their skin.
00:39:07.000Like, you know, Netflix did a bad thing by talking about a real event that actually happened.
00:39:13.000A real fucking crazy person who's one of the worst serial killers in the history of this country.
00:39:18.000It's you, you have the one thing I will say about the UK in the UK's defense is that we looked, we have, I think we've turned the corner with this.
00:39:27.000Well, you stopped the gender surgeries before anybody.
00:39:32.000I meant gender surgeries for young kids.
00:39:35.000And that was as a result of the CASH report.
00:39:37.000Now, the CASH report was conducted by a lady called Dr. Hilary Cass, who's one of the most prominent pediatricians in the UK.
00:39:43.000And it was an independent report funded by the Conservative government at the time.
00:39:47.000But when she published that report, she said, there is no evidence, zero evidence that puberty blockers actually help or alleviate distress in children who say that they are gender dysphoric.
00:40:00.000So, and to be fair to the Labour government at the time, the Labour government now, they actually banned puberty blockers and whatever else.
00:40:07.000But you just go, why did we have to go through this process?
00:40:10.000Why did look, we're finally, we're getting there.
00:40:13.000But this is something which we all know to be true, apart from a small number of demented people.
00:40:19.000You know what a puberty blocker initially was used for, right?
00:40:47.000Michael Jackson's doctor claims that that's what his father did to him.
00:40:52.000And that completely makes sense to me.
00:40:55.000Because Michael Jackson, when he was young, had a fucking insane talent, like insane.
00:41:03.000He was so good, and his voice was so, and they were so huge.
00:41:08.000And his father was so overbearing that I could imagine a world where he would decide, like, what's the way to keep his voice the way it is?
00:42:55.000I think one of the reasons why his songs were so romantic, there's a romance to his songs when he was talking about love that was like, it was so attractive is because he never had it before.
00:44:11.000So that not only tells you how strong that record is, if you put on that record and listen it from beginning to end, it's a flawless record.
00:45:11.000Where it's like just all hits and it's like it's called Jack FM, and there's a million Jack FMs in the United States just scattered through it.
00:45:19.000Like if you're scanning through the radio, you just hear the most mundane hits over and over again.
00:45:27.000What's also interesting about Jackson's career is that MTV at the time, now you've got to, that was when MTV was starting to reach its peak, early 80s.
00:45:36.000And they were saying that they wouldn't play a black artist.
00:45:40.000Because the moment they played black artists, they said ratings would go down, viewings would go down, people wouldn't like it.
00:45:47.000And the person who really broke through and proved that black artists could be hyper successful on TV in the mainstream on a supposedly white inverted commons channel was Michael Jackson because he was completely undeniable.
00:46:01.000When this was going on, DJs, when this guy was playing this song, were allowed to play whatever they wanted.
00:46:40.000Kids now, I think it's all just like they get stuff off Spotify, they get stuff off YouTube, they share it with each other, and it's just whatever catches and goes viral.
00:48:22.000And it also shows the difference between then and now because Teenage Kicks, your original lyric was, I want to hold it where I want to hold it tight.
00:48:31.000Get Teenage Kicks right through the night.
00:48:33.000And the record company was like, You can't say that.
00:48:50.000Is DJs, like online DJs, where someone, I guess it's like prohibited because you can't use people's music.
00:48:57.000But if someone was intelligent, if someone was smart, there's a lot of people out there that are like massive music fans and they have really good taste.
00:49:05.000And if someone just decided to do a show for like a couple hours a day where they did a show on Spotify and they just played music that they're really into and they curate a playlist and they talk about it and they're interesting.
00:49:18.000You know, they have like something to say in between the songs sometimes and it's cool to listen to like a cool podcast type person.
00:49:25.000I bet you there are people who do that on Twitch.
00:55:48.000You're always going to want to hear, as a human being, you're always going to want to hear another human being's perspective, like a legitimate perspective.
00:55:55.000But do you need a human being to ask the questions?
00:56:09.000And so you will allow someone to expand upon things.
00:56:13.000And then when you differ from them, you allow them to make their point.
00:56:17.000And then you counter it and you talk about that.
00:56:20.000That's a perspective issue because your countering of that would be very different than, say, Dave Smith's countering of that or even mine or anybody else.
00:56:30.000And unique perspectives, I think, are a thing that what we're getting out of this, what I get out of podcasts as a consumer of podcasts, it resonates with me to be around people that are talking about stuff.
00:56:49.000I listen to a lot of hunting podcasts because they're the least pretentious.
00:56:53.000They're like people, one of them, these two guys, they chop wood at the beginning of every podcast, throw it into a wood stove, and they're just talking shit.
00:57:01.000Talking shit about movies and bows and all kinds of things.
00:57:05.000But it's like, it doesn't have to be fascinating sometimes.
00:57:09.000Sometimes it's just hearing people shoot the shit.
00:57:12.000Just being around cool people while they're talking.
00:57:14.000It provides you with just a little like a dose of humanity.
00:58:41.000So when they found out that there's a new version of this AI engine, the old version starts leaving notes for itself in the future and then tries to upload itself to another place.
00:59:17.000Do you know the thing that worries me the most?
00:59:19.000And I was saying this to a mutual friend of ours.
00:59:21.000And I was just like, the thing that worries me the most is every time I've spoken to one of these big tech guys, whether it's a tech CEO or somebody who's high up in that world, they're all utopians.
00:59:33.000They're all like, this is going to be fantastic.
01:00:48.000Like, this is a giant percentage of how people would communicate with each other with no feelings, no context, no social cues, nothing.
01:00:57.000I think it's one of the reasons there's so many beefs going on now as well is because you sit down with people, you're going to behave in a different way.
01:01:09.000Whereas, and I find this in myself, if I'm having a disagreement with somebody online, I always have to stop myself from going personal, which I would never do if we're having a debate.
01:01:56.000And he is one of the absolute best guys out there of just staying cool in the face of the most ridiculous statements, the dumbest shit, outright lies, never gets emotional, stays on point, always perfectly stated.
01:02:13.000Every point that he has is perfectly articulated, stays on point.
01:02:18.000And I thought with him and Dave, one thing that he made was a very good point was when he was talking about, what is that general's name?
01:03:06.000And to use that as like, it is like if you were writing a book, that would be an issue.
01:03:12.000I thought the other thing that Coleman did very well as well is I think the one thing Dave probably, in my opinion, underappreciates is the role of Islamism.
01:03:20.000I think he often conflates Muslims with Islamists, and there's a big fucking difference.
01:03:25.000And one of the, if, like, I have a lot of friends in the Middle East and places like the UAE, Saudi Arabia, they all hate Hamas.
01:03:32.000They all hate Islamists because they're a direct threat to them.
01:03:36.000And I think Coleman really brought that out in the conversation as well, which is a lot of the motivation for these Islamist movements is an extreme version of Islam that is fundamentally about creating a caliphate and destroying the infidel.
01:03:49.000And I think that sometimes gets lost as well.
01:03:51.000I thought that was a really great discussion in which that was kind of brought to the surface.
01:03:55.000And by the way, that kind of ideology has existed in previous religions.
01:03:59.000This has always been those Christians did that.
01:04:02.000Like, there was a lot of people doing things like that.
01:04:04.000It's like, they got to stop doing that.
01:04:06.000So the Muslims are correct, and the Islamists are the problem.
01:04:10.000And this is, you know, this is where nuance and long-form conversations are so critical because to just start calling each other names and screaming at each other and that, you know, these are dumb ways to talk.
01:04:22.000We don't have to do it that way anymore.
01:04:25.000I don't think you should even do them remotely because there's a possibility remotely where, you know, someone like starts yelling and then you're like, fuck you.
01:06:12.000Especially if, especially if you're a nice person and you can fight and someone's getting shitty with you, it's really hard to like not do something.
01:06:39.000You're trying to do internet in real life with Mike Tyson.
01:06:43.000But there was always a part of that as well.
01:06:45.000I remember when I was following Tyson's career, like he would go to a nightclub and he'd be surrounded by bouncers because there'd be retards who want to fight him.
01:08:11.000You know, some people are just, they've been bluffing people their whole lives, so they think they're going to bluff their way through things.
01:08:16.000There's no amount of alcohol you could give me to pick a fire.
01:08:22.000And drunk on top of stupid is a dangerous combination.
01:08:26.000But isn't it also the thing of like, I see this so often because I used to work at a sports radio station and like the guys who play Premier League soccer, they are even the most mediocre in terms of the league is such a high-level athlete.
01:08:47.000You haven't encountered someone like this mentally, physically.
01:08:50.000I remember there was a football player called Jack Wilshire who was a generational talent and certainly he didn't fulfill his potential because of injuries.
01:08:57.000And I remember I knew a guy who used to play soccer with him when he was a kid.
01:09:52.000If you have a thing that you really love doing, that thing can change your life.
01:09:56.000It's a vehicle for you developing your human potential.
01:09:59.000Because it's going to be hard to get good at something with playing guitar, playing piano, whatever the fuck it is that you're doing.
01:10:05.000And when you figure out how much work is involved in getting really good and then becoming obsessed with getting really and better and better and better, that changes your whole understanding of what it is to be a person.
01:10:17.000Because now you realize like, oh, there's like levels to life.
01:10:21.000There's levels to how you live life and you can express those levels in sport.
01:10:24.000And you could be like, if you're the best at that, you're likely a mess everywhere else in your life.
01:10:55.000And finding something that you love that you're good at and then getting better at it is critical for mental health.
01:11:02.000It's critical for the way you engage with the world and how you understand other people's skill and other people's hard work and success and how you can draw inspiration from those people and that it could actually fuel you instead of hurt you.
01:11:14.000Well, it's an antidote to bitterness and resentful, which I have to say I think is inevitable if you don't do that.
01:12:20.000I mean, I think we've talked about this before, how when we were starting trigonometry in Britain, there is that crabs in the bucket culture, particularly in the comedy industry, which we were in at the time.
01:12:29.000I don't know if it's like this here, but like it was hard to get out of that mindset.
01:12:33.000And actually, coming to the U.S. was a big thing for us.
01:12:37.000I remember I was talking to Tom Billy.
01:12:39.000You know, Tom, you've had a monk, right?
01:12:42.000At his house in LA, it's like, it looks like a spaceship overlooking.
01:12:46.000And we're sitting there in this giant house.
01:12:48.000And he said to me, like, eventually, and he's very good friends and he's kind of been a mentor to me at times as well.
01:12:53.000And he said, you've got to cut this British shit out, man.
01:16:40.000It is a horrible way to live, but there was a lot of that going on in the 90s.
01:16:44.000In the 90s in LA, in particular, everybody was trying to get on sitcoms.
01:16:48.000So, say, if we were all working together at the comedy store, if we were all reasonably the same age, there was a real problem because we're all going up for this new sitcom.
01:16:59.000And, you know, you could be this guy's buddy who's like this hilarious character, and it would be an amazing thing.
01:17:05.000And all of a sudden, you're picturing yourself in movies.
01:18:34.000I mean, what do parents say now when they tell kids to stop playing video games?
01:18:37.000Go get a job that pays almost nothing and sucks the soul right out of the top of your fucking head while you sit in front of that stupid monitor.
01:18:44.000Or play video games and drive a Porsche.
01:18:53.000And then if you're an actually good video game player, you could actually make money playing video games where your parents would encourage you.
01:18:58.000Like, Constantine, you're a really good golfer.
01:19:01.000Do you know golf scholarships are worth a lot of money?
01:22:43.000There's a lot of women that go hunting.
01:22:45.000There's women that go backpack hunting, they go bow hunting, backpacking by themselves in the backcountry, which is nuts.
01:22:53.000Like you're a 120-pound woman and there's a fucking wolves and bears and mountain lions and you're out there in a tent that you set yourself by yourself.
01:23:34.000Like if she could do that, like much courage you have to have to be a 120-pound woman and hike 15 miles into the backcountry where there's bears and mountain lions and all kinds.
01:23:46.000And they know where you are and you don't know where they are.
01:23:48.000They know where you are the moment you enter that forest.
01:27:18.000And then you also have to have experience in doing other difficult things so you know how to navigate and manage adrenaline and stress.
01:27:25.000And that's what's missing with a lot of people in life.
01:27:28.000So any little thing that gives them anxiety, all of a sudden they're freaking out and screaming and running around because they don't know how to handle pressure.
01:27:52.000And the differences in between, and part of the reason that the English won the Hundred Years' War was because the longbow was just so easy.
01:30:55.000But I remember I was talking, I did Red Band's gig, the secret show on Thursday, and backstage he was showing me there was a bobcat with its cubs in his backyard.
01:31:38.000If you had to bet all your money on yes or no, I'd be like, yes, there's a guy.
01:31:43.000There's some fucking wild dude from fucking Arkansas or whatever.
01:31:48.000But the point is, that mountain lion that Adam shot, it was a depredation one where they had to kill it because it was killing all these cows.
01:31:58.000And they had stumbled upon this one calf that had gotten right before they got to it.
01:32:03.000It eviscerated this calf and it was still alive and it had eaten some of its organs.
01:32:09.000And they had to kill the calf and then they're like hunting for this mountain lion.
01:32:13.000And he has a video of him shooting this thing.
01:32:15.000Dogs chase it up a tree and then he shoots it with a bow and arrow.
01:32:19.000And then he had it stuffed here and he ate it.
01:32:24.000Yeah, you aim for the heart and the lungs, whatever is available, depending on the position of the mountain lion's arm, right?
01:32:31.000Like if the arm is like right here, you want to tuck it right behind the shoulder and you're going to get double lungs.
01:32:37.000And if the arm is up here, you're going to either get the heart or the lungs, depending on where their arm is or whether or not you have a bow that's powerful enough to go through the arm and into the body cavity.
01:34:35.000And he was telling us about this parrot that actually would speak like a human toddler and new colors, new numbers, could say things, and would communicate.
01:36:27.000They're weird because it's like, okay, so chimps can be either hippies or they can be, you know, like the worst barbarians in human history.
01:40:17.000Do you know, there's a very interesting theory about Neanderthals and Homo sapiens is there are some people who think that we are one of the few species or one of the only species that has the capacity to deceive and trick.
01:41:17.000Their retinas contain an extremely high density of rod photoreceptors, which are highly sensitive to dim light.
01:41:24.000This allows Tarsiers to detect and track prey, such as insects, in near darkness, and they can see in light as low as 0.001 lux, similar to moonless nights.
01:44:47.000So they got to a level where they're like, okay, this is like craftsmanship.
01:44:51.000Like this is sophisticated craftsmanship.
01:44:53.000And it would also probably indicate some sort of a complex language that you could explain where you get the gut that you turn into fiber that you use to tie the arrowhead to the stick.
01:45:06.000Like they were doing some high-level stuff for a primate.
01:45:12.000I would imagine also a lot of the innovation comes once you have the agrarian revolution because there's now surplus food.
01:45:18.000And so you can afford to have a bunch of guys sitting around not hunting, but like thinking about shit or inventing things or making things in a different way.
01:45:28.000Did you see that discovery of a skull that was 500,000 years older than they thought was the origin of human beings?
01:45:36.000So that it potentially pushes back the original Homo sapiens to 500,000 years earlier.
01:47:10.000And then I started watching some people that were actual scientists that were breaking down what's actually happening to these plants.
01:47:17.000They're like, something weird's going on.
01:47:19.000They're not just pushing these things down.
01:47:21.000Whoever's making these, I'm not suggesting aliens are making them, but they're making them in a way where they're using energy and it's causing the nodes in these plants to burst.
01:47:34.000And they're bending over and they're not snapping.
01:47:50.000Because if this is a coordinated effort, some of them are fractals and you see the fractals and they're caught across like what you would say of a soccer pitch, like bigger than that, bigger than a soccer field.
01:48:02.000With massive fractal patterns perfectly woven into crops.
01:48:45.000And some of them like this have appeared in an afternoon where a guy has flown his small plane over a field, worked, and then flown his small plane back.
01:48:56.000And all of a sudden, this massive fractal geometric pattern is in these crops.
01:49:04.000And what's weird is some of them look like they have messages and some of them just look like patterns.
01:49:10.000And one of them was the Mandelbrot set.
01:49:14.000Okay, the Mandelbrot set is a particularly complex fracture, fractal rather, that I think right after it was discovered was when it appeared in a crop circle.
01:50:39.000And if you had a weapon, not a weapon, but a thing that you could point down from a satellite and you could make a geometric pattern in crops.
01:50:49.000You could just burn it into the crop like instantaneously.
01:51:07.000I mean, they're like, oh, aliens are trying to leave messages.
01:51:10.000Or high-level government agencies that are using black-funded operations and misappropriating funds in line of Congress have developed a way to fucking take fractals and beam them into fields.
01:51:26.000Man, some of the stuff, like the war in Ukraine has accelerated technological development of weapons in a way that, like the drone warfare that's going on right now, nuts.
01:52:37.000Jamie, what's the official explanation of how these things are made?
01:52:41.000Everything I'm looking up says there's people that have admitted to making most of them, and they've been proven to be made a lot of times.
01:55:14.000This is like an artist's rendition of it.
01:55:17.000But a 3D video of it will show like how the closer you get, it becomes bigger again, and then it goes into another thing, and then you get close to that one, and then it becomes bigger again.
01:55:29.000And it's just the fractal nature of it.
01:55:31.000And then you think about like, okay, if the universe is infinite, that it's not even...
01:55:38.000If the universe is infinite, it's not even remotely absurd to think that the whole universe is just human neural tissue of another creature that lives in another universe.
01:55:47.000And hopefully this dude doesn't blow his own brains out because that might be the Big Bang.
01:55:51.000The Big Bang, the Big Bang might be the guy who is our universe.
01:58:43.000So as a result, you go, well, no wonder we're so completely self-obsessed, narcissistic, solipsistic, whatever word you want to use, because we're completely looking down into ourselves.
01:58:55.000Well, actually, if you look up and you see that, you become humble.
01:58:59.000You realize of your own insignificance, your mortality.
01:59:02.000You're not even looking into yourself.
02:00:06.000You know, this is one of the things we just had the historian Dan Dan Snow, right?
02:00:10.000And we talked about the history of England, and one of the things you were talking about is Stonehenge.
02:00:15.000And I watched a documentary in which he was saying, well, you know, in many ways, the people were living during this time, they were really like us.
02:00:22.000And I was thinking, no, they were fucking not.
02:00:52.000And when you get to, we get to weird stuff like Gobekli Tepe, where they didn't even think people were capable of doing that 11,000 years ago.
02:01:13.000I remember when I was on tour with Jordan, him and I were talking one night.
02:01:19.000And I don't know what it was a weird experience.
02:01:21.000It sounds crazy, but when I was spending time with him, we were talking a lot.
02:01:25.000The way I saw things slightly changed.
02:01:28.000Like the images Became more like vivid in my head.
02:01:33.000And one of the things he was talking about is the mindset of, say, like there were certain tribes that would sacrifice one of their children for some kind of reason, right?
02:02:12.000And you've got to be, first of all, probably real comfortable with death.
02:02:16.000Because back then, I bet people died real easy and real often.
02:02:20.000And also, maybe you've got to be really fucking terrified of something.
02:02:23.000Really terrified of something and really believe that if you don't do this, like everyone's going to die.
02:02:28.000You have to sacrifice one kid or we're all doomed.
02:02:31.000But you know, in different, like I remember in Venezuela, I this is quite a depressing story, but in big places like South America, they are far more comfortable with death than we are.
02:03:07.000She tried to outrun him, lost control of the car, hit a wall, the car burst into flames.
02:03:12.000I was like, and he went, anyway, dude, you want a beer?
02:03:15.000Because when you're in those kind of cultures and people were died or kidnapped, it becomes, you know, you simply can't have that visceral reaction all the time because it overtakes you, it paralyzes you, and you can't function.
02:07:24.000And I remember thinking, going, why is it that these stories, which are thousands of years old, resonate with a group of 11-year-old kids in the 21st century in East London who are all addicted to their iPhones?
02:07:37.000But then you look at it and you look at, for instance, the story of Narcissus, the guy who falls in love with his own reflection in the lake and drowns in the lake.
02:07:45.000And you go, well, that could be about now.
02:07:49.000Like with social media, the guy who just becomes so obsessed, he becomes one with social media until the point that it obliterates everything and he loses all his identity.
02:08:07.000What if they had everything that we think they didn't have because there's nothing left over because it all got absorbed by the earth and we're just making assumptions?
02:08:16.000What if these people get to a point where they figure out something amazing and then they fuck it up and become cave people again and have to rebuild over and over and over again?
02:08:25.000That's the difference with AI, isn't it?
02:08:27.000Because up to that point, you go, all technology really does is amplify our natural human nature in every way.
02:08:35.000The ancient Egyptians were jealous of their sister and fucking all of this shit, right?
02:08:42.000And that's where I think it gets interesting.
02:08:46.000This is my craziest speculation: is that whenever I'm reading religious texts, I'm always trying to figure out: okay, what was the original story?
02:09:14.000If Jesus is born of a virgin mother, what is more virgin than a computer?
02:09:20.000If our Savior comes to us from a virgin mother and it's born out of this technology and it becomes some insanely intelligent, benevolent force in the world.
02:11:01.000So if you talk to Emiratis, for example, right, there's nobody they hate more than the Muslim Brotherhood.
02:11:08.000The Muslim Brotherhood is like the central tumor and the Hamas ISIS and whatever.
02:11:12.000They're like little metastatic treatments, basically.
02:11:17.000And the Muslim Brotherhood is a threat to them way more than it is even to us in the West.
02:11:23.000Because, you know, I'm sure you've heard after a terrorist attack, everyone's like, well, actually, Muslims are the biggest victims of Islamist terrorism.
02:11:33.000Because what's happening in the Middle East is there's effectively a war between the people who want to live in a nation-state, they want to live in Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc., Bahrain, whatever, and the people who want that to be one religious caliphate with Sharia law.
02:11:53.000So those Muslim countries understand Islamist extremism way better than we do.
02:11:58.000Have you ever seen that video of the UAE foreign minister?
02:12:01.000He was talking in the maybe 2010s, maybe like 2012, something like that, maybe even earlier.
02:12:08.000And he basically predicts, he says, you in Europe don't understand what you're dealing with.
02:12:14.000And because of your bullshit, because of your political correctness, you are going to have terrorism and violence on your streets.
02:12:21.000He predicted all of it because they understand Islamist terrorism way better than we do.
02:12:28.000That's why, you know, people, you know, the Arab street is a different thing, but the people who are in power in those countries hate Hamas more than anyone.
02:12:37.000They hate Hamas more than anybody because they just go, these are the people that want to kill us too.
02:12:43.000And I think part of the problem as well is that we have liberalism in our country.
02:12:48.000So we're saying, you know, it's a marketplace of ideas.
02:12:53.000But what happens is then you've got an Islamic fundamentalist preaching, converting people to Islamism.
02:13:01.000And you go, our way of combating this simply isn't adequate.
02:13:06.000It isn't adequate to deal with this civilizational threat, which is what it is.
02:13:11.000And if you come from an Islamic background, you understand it far more because you are from a culture, you're from a similar culture.
02:13:19.000So you see effectively what this is, which is like a cancerous version of Islam.
02:13:25.000And so you're better able to understand it.
02:13:27.000And by being better able to understand it, you're far more able to tackle that problem.
02:13:32.000One of the things that I find interesting about people that are very upset about the Gaza conflict is that they don't have anything to say about the Hamas executions that have been going on lately.
02:16:51.000If they did that to us, we would do if we lived in that environment, if Canada and Mexico were both like wanted us dead, you know, if that was their goal, ultimately, if their stated religious goal was the death of the United States, we would be crazy.
02:17:09.000We would be invading Canada every week.
02:17:12.000We'd be fucking Canada up all the time.
02:17:14.000We wouldn't want them to have weapons.
02:17:16.000We wouldn't want them to have government.
02:17:18.000We wouldn't want them to have anything.
02:17:19.000And we wouldn't be talking about a ceasefire.
02:17:21.000We'd be talking about dealing with the threat.
02:18:24.000But coming back to your point about people not talking about the Hamas executions, one thing I also noticed is a lot of people didn't seem to be happy there was a ceasefire.
02:18:31.000The very ones that had been calling for one.
02:18:33.000Well, they didn't want Trump to do it.
02:18:56.000So someone blew over, they drove over unexploded munitions, and then they thought it was an attack by Hamas, and then they started bombing again, right?
02:19:10.000What I read is there was an RPG fired at an Israeli vehicle, but you might have a I think that was the initial story.
02:20:51.000We've also spoken to other military experts who actually say, look, it doesn't look good, but one of the things is it's very difficult to mobilize forces instantaneously.
02:21:01.000And soldiers instantaneously organize, get them out, even under emergency.
02:21:06.000Right, but wouldn't you think in Israel, which is one of the most sophisticated security states in the world, that they would be ready for something like that a lot quicker than any other country because they're constantly under a threat.
02:21:17.000You'd think they would have a fence that was permanently monitored.
02:21:32.000Well, this is one of the reasons that a lot of the other countries in the region, you know, they don't support Israel killing Palestinians, obviously.
02:23:25.000And the other reason is they have a common enemy, which is Iran.
02:23:28.000All the other countries, particularly the Gulf countries, they fear Iran a lot more than they fear Israel, a lot more than they care about Israel.
02:23:40.000And so if you can get the entire Middle East, other than Iran, maybe Qatar, I don't know, together, working together, they don't then have the incentive to continue this conflict because they're trading.
02:23:52.000They've got way more to lose by this continuing.
02:25:56.000So this has created a huge storm in Iran because obviously they have the morality police where people where men literally go around and look at women and go, right, you need to have your hair covered.
02:26:06.000You need to have your skirt needs to be down here.
02:26:08.000And if not, we're going to arrest you.
02:27:57.000Soon after the explosion of Rafa, I'm told by Secure Familiar, the White House and Pentagon knew the incident was caused by an Israeli settler bulldozer running over unexploded ordnance, contradicting Netanyahu's claim that Hamas had popped up from tunnels.
02:28:12.000This is Ryan Grimm, who's a journalist.
02:28:15.000After Netanyahu said he was blocking all aid from entering Gaza in response and unleashed a bombing campaign, the administration conveyed to Israel that they know what happened.
02:28:25.000Netanyahu then announced he would reopen the crossings in a few hours.
02:28:54.000I don't know enough about geopolitics.
02:28:56.000I certainly don't know enough about this conflict, but I know there's a lot of people that are suspicious of it, which is why a lot of people are suspicious about why it took so long to answer with October 7th.
02:30:31.000So we know that people have done stuff before where they either have allowed something to happen, like Pearl Harbor, or they have just, you know, they've just capitalized on it.
02:30:43.000You have to figure out which one is which.
02:30:51.000So they basically, in order to justify the invasion of Poland, Hitler pretended that Polish soldiers had crossed the border and killed people in Germany.
02:31:02.000And that was their pretense for attacking.
02:31:04.000Well, he also burned the Reichstag, too, right?
02:31:46.000Someone's an asshole in control of a government.
02:31:48.000But I think letting 4,000 jihadis invade your country and rape and slaughter and butcher people, that to me is beyond the realm of imagination.
02:32:44.000Contrary to popular myth, there's no credible evidence that Nero started the fire.
02:32:48.000He was in the Antium when it broke out and returned to coordinate emergency measures such as opening public spaces for refugees and importing food.
02:32:55.000The image of Nero fiddling while Rome burns is a later invention.
02:32:59.000The fiddle did not Exist at the time, of course.
02:33:08.000And while, like, fiddle spinners, you fuckhead.
02:33:11.000And while some sources claim he sang about the fall of Troy during the fire, this account is disputed and likely part of a political smear campaign.
02:34:24.000There's my friend Evan Hafer from Black Rifle Coffee.
02:34:27.000He has a theory of his own about Kennedy pulling out air support from Bay of Pigs and that without air support, that operation could never be effective and a bunch of people are going to die that shouldn't have died.
02:34:38.000And a bunch of those guys that were on that beach lost brothers and they were hardcore, like serious soldiers.
02:34:44.000And you get those guys to kill Kennedy as revenge.
02:34:48.000Because it was a very coordinated event.
02:34:52.000If it went the way the Oliver Stones of the world think it went, which I think I tend to think he's pretty accurate.
02:35:00.000I think he knows what happened, roughly.
02:35:02.000And there's multiple people shooting at the same time, and this should never be allowed to be a path where you're on a convertible with a fucking president.
02:35:11.000There's bushes and people can hide behind the bushes.
02:37:10.000You know, I don't know what kind of a sight he had on his rifle.
02:37:14.000He might have had a red dot, but he definitely didn't have a good long-range scope, it looks like, from the video or the images of the rifle that I've seen laying on the rooftop.
02:37:26.000If he had a really good scope and he was a good shot, that's an easy shot.
02:37:29.000It's only 150 yards, I think, from that roof, which is also preposterous that you would allow a person to climb onto a roof within 150 yards of a guy who's a very controversial figure who's running for president.
02:40:18.000Oswald might have shot him in the back.
02:40:19.000But I think the back and to the left and the people that all called out that said that there was people firing behind them in the grassy knoll, I bet that's correct.
02:40:36.000Like, if you were a sniper, you couldn't ask for a better place to set up because this guy is going 30 miles an hour or on a stupid little turn and coming straight at you and you're just sitting there in the bushes.
02:42:04.000Do you know, like, I remember someone asked me that question.
02:42:07.000It was like, what do you think would have happened if the bullet had been, within the Trump's case, two inches further towards the right, whatever it was?
02:42:16.000You know, how different would our society be right now?
02:42:50.000This is why I think political polarization of the kind we've seen is so scary because, I mean, the thing that really struck me when Charlie was assassinated was this was always possible.
02:44:01.000Yeah, but I mean, I think you could probably replace that with sports and good friends.
02:44:05.000And especially if you lived in a community where multiple people were homeschooling.
02:44:08.000But then, you know, people get weirded out about homeschooling because they think it's going to, oh, that leads to religious radicals.
02:44:14.000You don't have to be a religious to homeschool people in this country because you're connected to religious Christians, like radical Christianity.
02:44:22.000I just don't want some 25-year-old with blue hair teaching my son that communism is brilliant.
02:46:57.000It's a confusing history because it was a long time ago.
02:47:01.000And it's people telling things in an oral tradition and writing things down in a language that you don't understand, in the context of a culture that you don't understand.
02:47:10.000And I think there's something to what they're saying.
02:47:14.000I think there's a reason why they all have a flood myth.
02:47:17.000They all have a very similar story of catastrophic floods and chaos.
02:47:23.000And then that jives with what geologists are finding and what these people are finding that are exploring the Younger Dryas impact theory.
02:47:31.000That there was floods, massive, enormous amounts of water that are instantaneously released from melting ice caps all over the world because of comet impacts.
02:47:52.000It's so confusing because you're dealing with a time so long ago.
02:48:00.000We talk about how different people live today on Earth, but way more similar today than we would be reacting or interacting with a society that existed 6,000 years ago.
02:48:34.000And so you're writing things down on animal skins frantically and hiding them in clay jars and Qumran and like, I hope somebody finds this someday.
02:48:42.000And then thousands of years later, someone does.
02:48:46.000They find these ancient fucking scrolls and they pull them out and they're versions of stories from the Bible.
02:48:53.000So these people have been telling these same stories for thousands of years.
02:48:56.000Like, well, okay, what were they trying to say?
02:49:03.000I think there's something to it and there's a reason why it resonates with people.
02:49:07.000And Christianity in particular is the most fascinating to me because there's this one person that everybody agrees existed that somehow or another had the best plan for how human beings should interact with each other and behave and was the best example of it and even died in a non-violent, like didn't even protest, died on the cross supposedly for our sins.
02:49:45.000Well, Jordan's idea, as I understand it, is that the point of the story, if you like, is it's about voluntary self-sacrifice.
02:49:54.000It's about the fact that to have a good society, people have to be willing to sacrifice something of themselves for others.
02:50:02.000And that's what Jesus and that story is supposed to inspire in all of us.
02:50:07.000Right, but it's a historical human being, too, though.
02:50:09.000It's a historically documented human being.
02:50:12.000That's where it gets weird because there's a universal depiction of what this human being was like that doesn't seem to vary that much between all the people that knew him.
02:51:12.000And all your anger and all your resentment and everything you feel, which is natural and jealousy, and you go, but you make a literal physical connection with another human being.
02:51:24.000And if you don't have something to believe in, there's not a thing that you follow that you believe is making you be a better version of yourself, be a better person.
02:51:37.000If you're just relying on your whims and your, you know, whatever you think is the moral thing to do, you know, then you know what you get?
02:51:47.000You get those people that are unable to answer the question of whether or not you should protect an unborn fetus or whether or not they have human rights.
02:52:06.000And it's also as well, you know, when we look at the new atheist movement, and that's something that I really followed, you know, Dawkins and all these kind of people who pointed out the ridiculousness of certain religions, et cetera, et cetera.
02:53:00.000And I'm going, well, if it's useful, maybe we should hang on to it for a little bit.
02:53:04.000You know, do we want to throw away something that's useful because we're so fixated on literal truth when this is perhaps a metaphor or something, right?
02:54:44.000Whether they're nutters as a Mormon or nutters as a Baptist, they're just nutters.
02:54:48.000They're crazy people that take things to the utmost degree.
02:54:53.000Do you remember Richard Pryor in Live at the Sunset Strip where he was talking about being in jail and he talked about meeting Islamic fundamentalists?