In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the comedian and podcaster talks about his thoughts on Ronda Rousey vs. Amanda Poirier, his love/hate relationship with social media, and much, much more!
00:01:01.000The videos they make of like, oh, so-and-so is, you know, having a breakdown or Mark Maron said this, or those kind of like those rings, you know?
00:01:52.000Like, I like UFC, but I don't, you know, you know these things.
00:01:56.000So I've always said, like, Ronda Rousey was a badass and was awesome at fighting when there was like 30 girls doing it professionally at her level.
00:02:10.000But then there was probably all these girls who could really fight all over the world, like in Japan and other countries, and even maybe even in America that just weren't in UFC.
00:02:18.000They're like, I could probably beat this chick.
00:02:20.000And now that there's so many women competing on this level, like Ronda Rousey probably isn't in her prime as badass as like the field.
00:02:29.000Well, it's very difficult to, when someone's a pioneer, she's a legitimate pioneer.
00:02:36.000It's very difficult to compare them to the people that have had a chance to study the pioneers and then advance the sport.
00:03:17.000And to be the type, like, when she said, like, I wasn't an expert, everyone's entitled to their opinion, you know, but you got to understand why she thinks like that.
00:03:25.000Because she's a fucking, she has a champion mentality.
00:03:39.000You can't judge her, like, compare her to like Zhang Wei-Li.
00:03:44.000Because like Zhang Wei Li, who was the 115-pound champion, she had a chance to watch all these other people learn what they're doing right, what they're doing wrong, what's effective, what's not effective.
00:03:55.000What Rhonda had is world-class judo, world-class, bronze medalist in the Olympics, one of the best arm bars, period, in the sport, in the history of the sport.
00:04:05.000Her fucking arm bar, the technique was flawless.
00:04:09.000There's a fight with her and Katzangano.
00:04:11.000Katzangano launches at her, just fucking charged.
00:04:14.000Katzangano was an animal, charges at her.
00:04:17.000Ronda catches her in an arm bar in like 13 seconds.
00:04:29.000And when she fought Holly home, she was dealing with an elite boxer, an elite kickboxer, and a very physically strong woman who had an awesome game plan and who had a chance to study Ronda.
00:04:40.000And maybe more importantly, came from a great camp.
00:04:43.000And that camp, Jackson Wigglejohn camp, one of the best camps in the world.
00:04:49.000Holly, Donald Cerroni originally came out of that camp.
00:04:53.000A lot of great fighters came out of there.
00:04:54.000So they were really good at game planning.
00:04:57.000So they knew how Ronda likes to clinch.
00:05:00.000They knew how Ronda likes to set up her takedowns and they knew what to avoid.
00:05:04.000And then on top of that, Holly is just an elite striker.
00:05:07.000So every time Rhonda tried to close the distance, the striking that she was very effective with against guys like Bech Kohea, these fighters that were a lower tier, it's not going to be as effective with someone like Holly.
00:05:22.000And Holly started catching her on the feet and had her rocked and then landed that famous high kick and put her out.
00:05:28.000Well, I thought they were like the same age and same era.
00:05:57.000And when Rhonda has to close that distance, every fight starts in the feet.
00:06:01.000And when you're with a very physically strong woman, it's got good takedown defense and is good at like catching you as you're charging in.
00:07:04.000Anything that eats into those units, anything that bothers you, that annoys you, that's useless, that doesn't help you, that's stealing from your 100.
00:07:13.000You know, so now you only have 80 units or 70 units of focus because 30 of it is concentrated on bullshit.
00:07:19.000It'll rob you of what makes you great.
00:07:58.000But when you watch a fight and you're watching you get your ass kicked and the other person is talking about how great the other person is doing and how bad you're doing, that doesn't sit well with a lot of people, especially like someone who's got that kind of champion mentality, that fucking pit bull mentality.
00:08:30.000Like, they were talking about doing a rematch in four months or something like that.
00:08:33.000I was like, when you get headkicked into the shadow realm, you're supposed to take a long time off.
00:08:39.000When Manny Pacquiao got knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez, it was a fucking picture-perfect right-hand who knocked it that knocked Manny Pacquiao out.
00:08:50.000His coach, Freddie Roach, said, You can't fight for a year.
00:08:53.000I don't want you doing anything for a year, for one year, because you got to heal up from something like that.
00:08:58.000When you get knocked unconscious, it's not just that you'll be a touch gun shy, which is possible, but also that you're more vulnerable to getting hit.
00:09:08.000And then you could ruin your chin forever.
00:09:10.000Like if you get knocked out, there's certain fighters that used to have iron chins, like Chuck Liddell is one of the greatest examples of that.
00:09:41.000And then there was the Amanda Nunes fight.
00:09:43.000So the Amanda Nunes fight, I was also very vocal that everybody was putting all of the attention in the promotion on Ronda making this huge comeback.
00:09:53.000And if you watch the promos for that fight, I thought they were crazy disrespectful because the promos, and obviously, look, Ronda was a fucking huge star, a much bigger star than Amanda Nunes.
00:10:05.000And that loss was a shocking upset to a lot of people that didn't understand martial arts and didn't think that Holly had a chance.
00:10:56.000Meanwhile, Amanda Nunes was the scariest person at 135.
00:11:01.000And that's what I had said before she fought Holly Holm.
00:11:04.000I mean, like Dana and I talked about, I said, I think Amanda's the scariest title challenger because she can flatline chicks with one punch.
00:11:11.000She's very different than all the other ones.
00:12:09.000Obviously, she wound up being a bigger star.
00:12:12.000And Amanda's the greatest of all time, like widely considered to be the greatest mixed martial arts female fighter in history because she fucks everybody up.
00:12:22.000So, and then that fight happens, and then that lady takes Rhonda out in the first round, just beats the piss out of her, just stops her standing.
00:14:31.000You get to a certain part, you peak, and then the last week you kind of drop off so that you can recover.
00:14:38.000And so that Saturday night, when Saturday night rolls up and the lights go on in Madison Square Garden, you are as fucking ready as a human being can get.
00:14:46.000But you can't maintain that and you can't do that forever.
00:14:50.000And they think that there's a theory amongst mixed martial arts commentators and experts and what have you that it's about nine years.
00:14:58.000Nine years is all it's possible to compete at a peak level.
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00:22:07.000Yeah, he's got a real Hummer with a crazy diesel turbocharged engine.
00:22:12.000Last time I was here and I did his podcast, he had this huge Bronco that he was like doing something where he's selling it, like enough people buy tickets for it or something like that.
00:23:20.000I have a cyber truck, and you can't really lift it, but since it has an air suspension, you can buy pins that make the air suspension one inch larger than whatever it's adjusting to.
00:23:33.000Because if you put a lift on it, it's going to screw it all up.
00:23:37.000So anyways, long story short, I have a lifted cyber truck with big, stupid tires on it.
00:23:42.000And I drive into the comedy store parking lot and I'm like, this really isn't helping my reputation.
00:23:48.000Every time I roll in, everyone's like, what is that?
00:23:51.000It used to be that if you had a Tesla, you were signaling that you were a left-wing person.
00:24:41.000Well, people are always looking for every possible opportunity to be a shithead.
00:24:46.000And if they can be a shithead, if they're justified in being a shithead because they disagree with you, they would be the meanest motherfuckers just to be a shithead.
00:24:56.000And that activity happens primarily on the left.
00:26:06.000And so the last thing you want to be called is a racist, right?
00:26:10.000So when you make it as simple as race, like just racial, like just that blanketly simple, then anything another color does, you'd be considered.
00:26:20.000So you go, oh, I don't really believe, or I think Muslims are blank, whatever that sentence is.
00:27:42.000She just started launching into like about how like the fact that a guy she liked would be sad about Charlie Kirk's assassination was the biggest turn off to her that she wrote like a whole bit about it.
00:27:55.000And I was just in my mind, I was like, I can't believe that this is her take.
00:28:00.000I can't believe it's a take that the crowd is on board with.
00:28:03.000And I can't believe I'm in this town anymore.
00:28:09.000Like it was like a moment for me where I was like, what?
00:28:16.000Like that's what makes me, those are the moments where you go, I think I'm the crazy person.
00:28:20.000There's a room full of people here who agree that Charlie Kirk must have been this terrible thing and hence deserves being publicly assassinated.
00:28:30.000And if you feel sad about it, you're gross to her.
00:28:33.000And she wants to throw her phone away.
00:28:34.000And she wants to go, and that's hilarious to everyone.
00:28:42.000You know, it's like this constant obsession with, you know, you have to agree with a socialist mayor in New York or you must be a racist or Islam.
00:28:53.000They've just made it so vague that it's very easy to always label or put things in a thing.
00:28:59.000Well, there's certainly cult-like thinking involved in both the right and the left.
00:29:07.000It's a real problem with people that identify with any political ideology, whether they identify as being a conservative or identify as being a liberal.
00:29:17.000It's a real problem because then you lose all your objective thinking and you have to agree with everything that this side supports.
00:29:24.000And generally, that's never a good thing to just agree with like a swath of predetermined ideas.
00:30:33.000Well, there's also a problem with clips.
00:30:35.000When you take sound bites, like very short clips out of context of what someone's saying, and then you highlight that one particular sentence and the way they said that sentence, you could frame someone in a very different way than who they really are.
00:30:48.000And I think there was some problems with some of the things that Charlie said, the way he said them, and in the fact that you could take it as a clip.
00:30:55.000And one of them was the idea of DEI pilots.
00:30:59.000Like the idea of any lowering of standards of anyone in a really important job, like a pilot, because a person is blank, fill in the blank, because they're a lesbian or because they're gay or because they're white or because they're Chinese or because they're black or whatever it is.
00:31:18.000If you're lowering standards because you want more people of one thing, well, you've just made the skies a little more dangerous.
00:31:24.000You made a very dangerous thing, which is flying, a little more dangerous.
00:31:28.000So his statement was because they're doing this and they're trying to get, they're using DEI to hire people.
00:31:34.000And when I get on a plane and I see a black pilot, I hope that they're qualified.
00:31:53.000Instead of saying that that way, because one of the things that I pointed out is that what DEI, especially in regards to education, the people that discriminate the most against, like people say it's a white supremacist idea to be against DEI.
00:32:11.000The people that DEI discriminates the most against in education is Asians because Asians fucking kill it in universities.
00:32:21.000So much so that there was a giant lawsuit at Harvard because they were making their admission standards more difficult for Asian people than they were for white people, for black people, for everybody else.
00:32:32.000They made Asians more difficult because if they didn't, half of their fucking population in their classes would be Asian because they work harder.
00:32:42.000You know, I grew up in Taekwondo and I grew up around a lot of Koreans.
00:32:46.000And man, you haven't seen work ethic until you've seen first-generation Koreans who come over to America and, you know, they have those tiger moms and tiger dads.
00:33:08.000But if we're talking about the workforce or symphony, if it's just a meritocracy, if it's just a meritocracy, it's like who is the best student?
00:34:59.000My kids do very well in school, but they do very well in school because of the example that I and my wife said of be a nice person, work really hard, have discipline, do the stuff you're supposed to do.
00:35:11.000You know, get the things done that you're supposed to do.
00:35:15.000But would they be able to compete with some kid who just came over here from China?
00:35:19.000Which is why other countries like America so much is because they realize, oh, if I work as hard as I can, maybe in wherever they live, India or some of these other places, it's not a promise that they'll succeed.
00:35:30.000But they love a capitalistic America where, like, yeah, if I put in the work and my kids put in the work and I force my kids to put in the work, it'll work.
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00:36:57.000This is where you see the hypocrisy of the education system, though, because they claim to be all about diversity.
00:37:29.000So because of that, they're not as represented when it comes to grievances.
00:37:33.000So you can get away with being racist against them.
00:37:37.000And you can get away with discriminating against them in higher education universities like Harvard, which is just crazy because it shows you're lying.
00:37:47.000You're not really caring about minorities.
00:37:49.000You're caring about very specific minorities because they give you social clout to represent and to fight for them.
00:37:56.000Like if you're fighting for black people, if you're fighting for trans people, those are the people that are really noisy and really loud.
00:38:10.000It sounds strange, but like these kind of things consume me.
00:38:13.000I don't have a wife and kids, you know?
00:38:14.000Like I think about these things all day.
00:38:16.000But like I think about it with like in our in our business, you know, like there are so many women who complain like, oh, no girls on the lineup or only two girls on the line.
00:38:30.000In fact, the fact that there's less of you in our industry is why you're able to stand out and succeed so much quicker than your male counterparts.
00:38:38.000So yes, it can feel like a boys club because it is.
00:38:41.000There's plenty of disadvantages to being a female comedian like putting up with these comedy club owners or working the road or like it is there's fans being creepy with creepy fans.
00:38:53.000And I'm sympathetic to the things female comics have to go through.
00:38:57.000But if they just don't understand the numbers, like there's, there's girls in Los Angeles who are regulars at the improv and the laugh factory and the comedy store who have been doing it a few years.
00:39:08.000And then there's guys that I know that have been doing it 15 years who us, you know, subjectively are very, very funny and fun, subjectively funnier than them, but at least inarguably funny.
00:39:20.000And they can't get any spots at these places because we need more women comics.
00:39:35.000I was in Boston, and there was this long line for this festival and all this thing.
00:39:41.000It was to submit, like to do audition.
00:39:44.000It was during last comic standing times.
00:39:45.000So they were doing these things where they liked filming the line and going, look how many people are here to try out for our festival or whatever.
00:39:51.000And someone came out and goes, listen, if you're a straight white guy, you better be real different.
00:39:58.000And all of us just cut, because Boston, we're all straight white guys.
00:40:01.000And I just remember being like, well, that kind of hurt my feelings a little bit.
00:41:53.000You're doing something that's just too convenient.
00:41:56.000And you're doing it because you know it'll be supported by a bunch of other fucking morons because we're in a TikTok generation where most people don't have nuanced perspectives on things.
00:42:16.000I have never once crashed out because of my Seattle comedian friends going on stage and calling Christians idiots or racists or fools or dummies.
00:42:28.000I've never once gone, I can't share a green room with someone who would espouse that type of hatred towards my faith, right?
00:42:48.000But you're doing well because you became undeniable.
00:42:50.000And that's the real meritocracy aspect of comedy is that if you kill, if the audience laughs and people keep coming to see you, you have an audience.
00:42:59.000And the one thing that drives a lot of people crazy is they've, I've done all the right things and no one comes to see me because you forgot the one thing.
00:43:58.000Yeah, I love women, but I trash them pretty hard in my act.
00:44:02.000You know, and so the only reason I was bringing all that up is that, like, I feel like I've never once gone, I can't talk to someone because of their stand-up comedy.
00:44:12.000I'm not going to go to the improv and go, Mary Lynn Reiskib shouldn't be allowed here because what she said about Charlie Kirk, and I was offended.
00:44:19.000I bet if you had a conversation with her about it, an actual conversation, it would be very reasonable.
00:44:24.000Yeah, because people are people, and we should be able to share these spaces with these people no matter what we think.
00:44:28.000I'm not so far right or so far Christian that I go, I can't be in the same room.
00:44:35.000Also, if you had a conversation with her and confronted her with the reality of what that guy had said, some of the conversations that he had with both trans people, people of color, all kinds.
00:45:58.000Tell that story, Howie, that we shook hands at the comedy store and were able to share a stage and not stage, but share a room full of stages.
00:46:06.000And it just, Howie Mandel's team just posted the thing.
00:46:12.000So, you know, all the comments are like, Jeff Dog, I can't stop talking about Mark Maron again.
00:46:16.000What I'm saying is that Charlie Kirk's guilty of, or not guilty of it, but a victim of it.
00:46:22.000This short, real thing that is out of context.
00:47:02.000It's like the thing, like I was talking to Tony about this because we were talking about people that complain about his show and talk shit about a show.
00:47:32.000But if you're in that position where I'm in that kind of sort of, you're not totally ever in that position, but you're much more in that position than the average person.
00:47:43.000It's your duty to set an example and to say, look, you're supposed to be, when you get to the top, you're not supposed to be mean and like defend it and push everybody down.
00:47:52.000You're supposed to lift everybody up and be what you would hope the guy at the top would be.
00:47:57.000Be supportive, try to help other people's careers, try to promote them, tell everybody how cool they are, tell everybody how funny they are, tell everybody good things that you know.
00:48:05.000Instead of complaining all the time about everything, find cool shit and inform people about it.
00:48:11.000Tell people cool shit that you've seen, cool restaurants you've been to, cool music you've listened to, cool people you met.
00:52:36.000What actually happened, official data and statements from NYPD representatives confirmed there has been no mass walkout, while police union leaders and some critics have warned of potential wave of resignations or feared attrition.
00:54:20.000They have to go into someone's worst day of their life every day.
00:54:23.000Anytime you've ever had to call a cop, it's not a great day.
00:54:25.000It's not a great thing that's happening.
00:54:27.000And they have to enter someone's worst day every 15 minutes or every hour.
00:54:31.000And I have a tremendous amount of respect for people that do that.
00:54:35.000And they feel ashamed to be a cop because they've been vaguely blanketed as like oppressors or racist or some sort of power-hungry bad guys.
00:54:47.000And that's probably a little worse in NYPD right now as far as being in the city with what's going on.
00:54:54.000So I imagine there's a lot of people who are threatening the same way whenever someone's president isn't the president they want.
00:56:45.000Medical assistance in dying, known as MAID, also known as assisted suicide or euthanasia, accounted for approximately 4.7% of all deaths in Canada.
00:59:06.000Voluntary request, informed consent, have a serious and incurable illness, disease, or disability causing enduring and intolerable suffering that cannot be alleviated under conditions acceptable to the person.
00:59:19.000But that's the key word, the key phrase there, acceptable to the person is interesting.
00:59:24.000Be in an advanced state of irreversible decline in capability.
00:59:28.000Okay, are people with depression, just write severe, are people with severe depression eligible for MAID?
01:00:01.000In Canada, people whose sole underlying medical condition is severe depression or any other mental illness are currently not eligible for medical assistance in dying.
01:00:09.000This temporary exclusion includes psychiatric conditions like depression and personality disorders.
01:00:15.000The law excludes eligibility for MAID on the basis of mental illness alone in March 17, 2027.
01:00:24.000However, people with mental illnesses may be eligible if they have a grievous, grievous, grievous, or irremediable.
01:02:33.000You know, it's very, very complicated.
01:02:36.000It's real hard when someone has dementia or Alzheimer's or anything along those lines.
01:02:41.000The patience that these people have to work with dementia and those kind of even an eating disorder is you know, you can't really communicate it to the person when they have this body dysmorphia or anything.
01:02:52.000Like it's something as simple as that.
01:02:54.000Those people are saints that can work with anybody cognitively or like any kind of like dysphoria.
01:03:01.000Like that's that's I mean, I those are heroes to me because I don't have the patience for it.
01:03:26.000That's one of those things that I glanced at quickly, and I was like, I better remember.
01:03:29.000I'm probably going to say this on here, but there's a beautiful great woman named Lydia who I've been hanging out with, and her mom had some sort of dementia or something like this.
01:03:41.000And their family had a real long debate about what the doctor recommended.
01:04:45.000I heard all these stories about there would be like people who would still, you know, on the fringes of it because they didn't want to shut down their practice.
01:04:54.000So they'd be like, hey, you know, we'll still give it to you.
01:07:44.000I will say the first time I did mushrooms, I was like, because my buddy's like, the cool thing about mushrooms is that you don't want, it's not like cocaine or E or anything.
01:07:53.000You're not going to become like addicted to mushrooms.
01:07:55.000You're going to want to do mushrooms every day.
01:07:57.000And then the second I did mushrooms, I was sitting in the chair and I was like, you guys were wrong.
01:10:21.000And then they grab you and yank your neck.
01:10:23.000And sometimes people have fucking hemorrhages from these things because they violently yank your neck and a blood vessel pops and you have a fucking stroke.
01:10:53.000People that are like full-on nuts have their babies brought to a chiropractor and the chiropractor is adjusting the baby's skull and moving the baby.
01:15:16.000And I was like, damn, he's got a good point.
01:15:17.000So when the shit started getting weird in LA and they were burning cop cars on the freeway, that's when daddy was like, I got to get out of here.
01:15:25.000Yeah, you know, because my kids are little, you know, 10 and 12 at the time, the little ones.
01:16:14.000I mean, this is just like based on what we've done in Austin, right?
01:16:17.000What we did in Austin is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity where we hit every green light.
01:16:22.000Every green light along the way, we got in the right spot.
01:16:26.000So like the only way this club happens, first of all, is I'm friends with Adam Egot, and I've been friends with Adam Egot from back when he was running the improv in Tempe.
01:17:39.000And it was just such a, it was such a happy moment to see him like accomplish this thing, going from being a doorman to having your own Comedy Central special while he's also doing a show on Comedy Central.
01:18:01.000And becoming really good friends with Adam and knowing him from the improv, like knowing him from back in the day and then becoming friends with him when he was the Cal Coordinator.
01:18:08.000We had talked about like what are the problems with running a club?
01:18:12.000Like what is the problems with like people telling you, oh, you have to have more of this on your show or more that on your show or you're problematic and people getting mad about this, mad about that.
01:18:21.000I'm like, it's got to be a meritocracy.
01:18:23.000As much as that bothers some people, the people that bothers, they're never good.
01:18:28.000David Tell's never complaining about diversity.
01:22:19.000The big advantage of there's a show that's Monday night that is the biggest live comedy show on planet Earth and you might be able to get on it.
01:22:27.000And if you've got a tight minute and you could fucking kill, they're going to ask you back.
01:22:31.000And if you've got another tight minute, oh my God, you might have a fucking career.
01:25:33.000It's an art form in and of itself that had been prostituted out for so long that people thought like the golden goose was be a late night talk show host.
01:25:43.000That was the golden goose, a job that I wouldn't.
01:26:31.000He's like, yeah, I just want to go out there and hoop.
01:26:33.000And he keeps going to that thing of like, man, I don't want to have these arguments in barbershops about the greatest ever or any of those things.
01:26:40.000He makes money, but it's not about the money for him.
01:26:44.000Those are all symptoms of what he pursues.
01:26:47.000And I love that because I'm like, yeah, I just love the joke part.
01:26:50.000I love that I can write a bit and then that night try it and people love it or they go, what an interesting idea, or that's funny, or that's naughty.
01:27:02.000You know, when you're campaigning on a political trail or whatever, like when you go to like the Trump rally or one of, I don't know what Kamala Harris called her thing, but those aren't undecided voters.
01:27:14.000Those are people who are there because they're already in.
01:27:16.000You're not even talking to anyone who's considering voting for anyone else when you go to a thing like that.
01:27:21.000But with stand-up comedy, when they're in that audience, they're just looking at you and going, Hey, bro, bring me some jokes.
01:28:31.000And all the success comes because of it.
01:28:34.000But the moment you start thinking about the success only and then making decisions based only on getting and attaining more success instead of thinking about the thing.
01:28:53.000And I love that you believe you can make some money off me by putting me in that.
01:28:56.000But for me, walking my ass into a place that has a stage and a microphone and being able to be naughty and say anything I'd like and make jokes is so exciting to me.
01:29:07.000If they put a billion dollars in my bank account tomorrow, I'll still go do my spot tonight at the mothership in Fat Man.
01:29:12.000And if tomorrow they said, Jeff, you make zero dollars doing this, you might want to find a day job.
01:29:16.000I'll go, okay, but I'm still doing my spot, right?
01:29:35.000I won't say this comic's name because, you know, I just don't want any trouble with this guy.
01:29:40.000But I remember I was at a festival and I'm more criticizing his attitude on that night.
01:29:47.000We're in the green room and they were like, so excited to have him because he's a very funny guy and very talented.
01:29:52.000And they said, they go, so how much time do you want to do?
01:29:55.000He was like, how much time am I contracted to do?
01:29:59.000And they were like, oh, well, you know, your book's for 45 minutes, but I was just letting you know you're at the end of the show and everyone's here to see you.
01:31:10.000I've worked at any coffee shop that was, like, I've had over like 40 different coffee jobs because I just couldn't keep a job.
01:31:16.000Like, I was always living somewhere different or like pursuing comedy so aggressively that like I just needed a job.
01:31:21.000So I was good at getting the job and then I would fuck off or do something stupid and I'd get like let go or I'd move and just ghost that job.
01:31:30.000But whether it was Hollywood Video or Rock Bottom Brewery or whether it was any of these million coffee shops I worked at, I was always the fun guy at the job that made friends with everyone and goofed off because it's more fun to have a good attitude at work and like the job than it is to hate the job.
01:31:48.000Because not because the job was great, but because it's going to be a better experience here if I like it, if I at least trick myself into liking it.
01:31:56.000There's nothing, it wasn't my dream to put movies in alphabetical order with dyslexia in Hollywood video, but I want to enjoy my job.
01:32:05.000Like that was more fun to like be happy to be there.
01:32:08.000So now we get to do comedy, which is the dream, and you have that attitude.
01:32:13.000Like I just can't get my mind around that.
01:32:15.000Well, there's some people that think they have to be miserable to be good.
01:32:18.000There's a weird thing that I think some artists feel like they have to kind of suffer in order to be funny.
01:32:29.000I used to think that when I was really young and dumb, I was thinking that maybe like I should stop meditating because if I meditate and achieve any kind of enlightenment, I won't think things are so annoying anymore that I could shit on them on stage, which is like a big part of my act.
01:32:48.000Yeah, you didn't want to be happy because you would find.
01:32:54.000Well, Jerry Seinfeld, who's one of my favorites ever, despite any of his political beliefs or any of those things, like I really, really respect every time Jerry Seinfeld talks on podcasts or interviews or whatever, because he's like Buddha of comedy, like the way he talks about work ethic and the way he talks about joke writing, the way he's very disciplined.
01:33:22.000And although he's a husband and a dad, and no matter what he's labeled as, he seems to be very at peace in his life and very successful and rich.
01:34:40.000If that's racist, you're expecting something that you're not going to get, which you're expecting people to abandon meritocracy in the most meritocracy-based art form.
01:34:52.000You have to have a specific response from people.
01:39:56.000I, I, I don't think she's having a hard time talking to them.
01:40:01.000I might be, I've watched it a bunch, but so what happened was she said that she was always struggling with it since Trump's been in office.
01:40:08.000But now she doesn't even want to be with these people because it's personal to her.
01:40:14.000That like that now she's made the decision to not, and it's like that's that's where it's a problem.
01:44:42.000If at the top of the heap, you got like, in my mind, if like if somebody said something to me and they quoted a source and it was the BBC, I was like, okay, that's like Washington Post.
01:45:12.000It's like, well, and I think I'm sorry that I keep harping on this, but like that's what AOC or kind of the left I see most guilty of doing is in their brain they go, I know that this is a little like whatever, but it's for our greater good.
01:48:06.000And not just meddle, but like completely try to sabotage someone and paint them out in a way that's completely inaccurate, knowingly, willingly, with taxpayer dollars, funding it all.
01:48:29.000Let's say whatever the fuck keep him out of office.
01:48:32.000I think that's what happened with the, in a way, that's kind of what happened with like the Epstein list thing.
01:48:37.000I think like the reason you're never going to see that is because there's just too many powerful people that are in that that are on both sides.
01:48:45.000It would kind of be a, not a collapse, but like a social kind of like collapse of like both sides.
01:48:51.000I mean, I don't think there's like that.
01:48:52.000You're not going to find all liberals went to this island.
01:48:54.000You're not going to find all conservatives went to this island.
01:48:57.000You're going to see a list of some of very powerful creeps on everything.
01:49:02.000So it's like both this like stalemate of the right and the left going, maybe we just won't do this.
01:49:33.000How much money transferred back and forth to different accounts because of things that happened there?
01:49:39.000How many huge international decisions were made by people in powerful positions because someone has a video of them doing something very compromising on an island.
01:49:51.000That's why I'm glad that I, I mean, I might not be very rich or anything, but like if something, you know, if they try to figure out something on me, this would be their research.
01:50:01.000They'd be like, all right, we found Jeff Dead.
01:51:23.000Or you got someone who wants to be a leader for some strange reason, and they're really not that extraordinary, but they're in a really shallow pool of talent.
01:51:31.000Because that's the real truth about running for president or running for governor or running for mayor, is it's a fucking shallow pool of talent.
01:51:40.000Because most people that have any kind of fucking talent talking don't want that job.
01:52:15.000And some of these kooky people will do a better job than other kooky people, but only kooky people want the job.
01:52:21.000And until that changes, and until not just kooky people want the job, not non-kooky people want the job of being president, but non-kooky people involved in Congress and the Senate and everything.
01:52:33.000Regular, rational people that can have real conversations and not try to diminish whoever you're talking to in every most reductionist way possible.
01:52:44.000Make them out to be a moron because they're on the other side.
01:52:47.000Actual solving of problems without you doing it at the behest of these massive corporations that have been donating to you.
01:52:55.000So you have to bullshit your way and gaslight people and you can't be honest about your real opinions.
01:53:00.000That's the real fucking problem with that whole system.
01:53:03.000It is absolutely contaminated by both money and the promise of money in the future if you play ball.
01:53:31.000You could put the most simple thing and you have 700 people who just want to go, but the goal is to debate and argue and get into win and dunk on your opponent and make someone say there's not like nobody, like you said in the beginning, is like nobody's trying to just go, I think I really want to make it fair.
01:54:20.000But if you go there, I saw this one conversation where someone said they were talking about something saying, I'm trying to be Zen about it.
01:54:27.000And then the next person said, try not to be racist against Asian people from Zen.
01:54:54.000So a lot of people like Stephen King said, I'm going over a post guy.
01:54:57.000They all decided to go over to Blue Sky because Trump let them say whatever they want on Twitter and they just didn't like the reality of the world.
01:56:09.000And if they don't have, once they get into power, then they have to use that power for their constituents and for the people that help them get into power.
01:56:16.000So there's a bunch of fucking needs of these.
01:56:18.000And there's a bill you want to put this in the bill because it's going to help the oil sector or this in the bill is going to help chips.
02:01:11.000$376 million cost to improve the East and West Wings infrastructure.
02:01:18.000Peck described the project as largely underground utility work.
02:01:22.000Doesn't do a whole lot of good to have a building that's sort of an image of the free world standing up there and not functioning well.
02:01:27.000Peck told CNN when questioned about the cost.
02:01:30.000Bloomberg News reported in 2010 the Obama renovation was the biggest White House upgrade since President Harry Truman was in office 48 to 52.
02:01:38.000Truman oversaw the White House historic gutting, renovation, and expansion in response to significant structural issues that at one point resulted in the leg of his daughter piano breaking through the floor.
02:01:50.000Trump's project would be the first major exterior change of the White House in 83 years.
02:02:27.000So I guess that makes more sense, though.
02:02:29.000They had to do like crazy underground infrastructure shit that probably wasn't heating, cooling, and fire alarm systems that hadn't been updated since 1902 or 1934.
02:04:25.000If it wasn't for a off-duty Secret Service guy who saw that guy running through the fucking White House and he tackled him, he just happened to be there.
02:05:24.000Yeah, which is a controversial statement, but it's 100% true.
02:05:27.000Well, the mental illness leads to drug addiction, drug addiction, self-medicating, you know, a lot of trauma, a lot of things, a lot of factors.
02:05:35.000But the answer to that isn't just let them camp.
02:05:39.000Let them be in front of your house whacking off, shouting bomb threats.
02:06:45.000Was just hearing something really crazy where someone was making a connection between Rockefeller and alcohol being during Prohibition that one of the competing fuel sources back then was ethanol.
02:07:05.000I don't even know if this is true, but that Rockefeller had control of oil and they were using oil to make pharmaceutical drugs.
02:07:14.000So like most of the drugs that people buy, the reason why they started doing it that way is because Rockefeller, because he had control of the oil.
02:07:23.000And this was saying that he wanted to stop them, people from using ethanol.
02:07:27.000So he wanted, he thought the best way to do that was to make it so that no one could have the ability to produce alcohol.
02:07:35.000And the best way to do that is to make a prohibition about alcohol.
02:07:45.000John D. Rockefeller is often blamed for using prohibition to eliminate ethanol as a competing fuel source to gasoline from his standard oil business.
02:07:54.000Rockefeller supported the temperance movement primarily for religious and social reasons.
02:08:00.000Okay, that's the excuse that's publicly stated that he supported alcohol prohibition for religious and social reasons, believing alcohol consumption was harmful and aiming for a more productive workforce.
02:08:15.000This is like someone saying why this guy supported banning alcohol and not, yes, he did work to ban alcohol and yes, he did benefit from it because ethanol was taken out.
02:08:28.000So ethanol as a fuel was not banned, it's saying, explicitly allowing, even promoted the use of high-proof alcohol for scientific research, fuel, or other lawful industries during prohibition.
02:08:59.000It would make sense if somehow or another, but could you, if you were using ethanol, though, the thing is, like if you stop people from making their own alcohol, if you make it illegal to make your own alcohol, you definitely can't make your own fuel.
02:09:17.000And then you can't use ethanol because you can actually make ethanol with corn.
02:09:23.000So I could see how you would say if you wanted to sell more gasoline, you would make it so people can't make their own fermentation and you can't make your own alcohol.
02:09:33.000And one of the best ways to stop people from making their own alcohol would be the prohibition of alcohol.
02:09:43.000Like he supported a prohibition of alcohol because of morals, but yet he was like really involved in a lot of shady shit that seemed like he was very controlled.
02:09:52.000Those religious beliefs were sidelined.
02:10:17.000Yeah, that's he'd have been an interesting guy in politics.
02:10:21.000So it's not true that he, that ethanol, that they prohibited it, but it is true that they kind of eliminated people making their own alcohol.
02:10:29.000And if you're not, if people aren't like making engines from ethanol, because most people are using gasoline at the time, it seems like they don't have the materials.
02:12:50.000This is a proposed class action lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York.
02:12:56.000Goes on to allege that both brands fail to meet the regulatory requirements to label themselves as 100% agave in Mexico and the United States, even though they carry that distinction on their labels.
02:13:15.000Significant amounts of non-agave alcohol despite being labeled as 100% agave.
02:13:22.000Customers named the suit claimed that they purchased the products under the assumption that the tequilas were made exclusively from Blue Weber agave and paid prices reflective of that premium designation.
02:14:27.000When I first worked at Giggles Comedy Club, the owner, like we didn't really have a green room.
02:14:32.000We're just kind of in the back world, like the soda tubes are going from the boxes of syrup and all the bottles of alcor back there.
02:14:39.000And he had one bottle of every kind of like top shelf liquor, but he would just pour shitty liquor in there, like with funnels, like totally against the law.
02:14:49.000Just like funneling like the cheapest tequila he could get in like the finest tequila bottle.
02:14:54.000And then when people would, people would constantly bring it back, like, this tastes wrong.
02:14:58.000He goes, you saw me pour it from the bottle.
02:15:30.000Some dude in Century City was like making the the, the labels, putting over the bottle, putting dirt on yeah, he was totally doing that and he was mixing a bunch of cheap wine to try to come up with this flavor.
02:15:43.000So weird, like it's always this was it a big wine guy like oh yeah, oh really oh dude he he, this is how he up.
02:15:50.000He ripped off the COKE Brothers to a big like yeah, and they had.
02:15:54.000They bought some old ass like Thomas Jefferson wine and it wasn't real.
02:15:59.000And then they they also had some magnums from a company that never made magnums during that year they're during that era and this actual wine guy saw their seller and started putting what is this right?
02:16:10.000And he says that's this and that he goes, no no no they, they don't do that.
02:16:17.000And so then they have a lot of resources obviously, so they're like release the house and then they you know, they caught him.
02:16:25.000They get enough evidence that they can raid this guy's house, and so when they raid this guy's house, they find like a whole manufacturing thing.
02:17:04.000I wish who caught him was a Somme, like someone who was actually like, no, this tastes like shit and like i'd be like, oh, it's real, like there is one Somonye in that documentary that these other guys were like sniffing it, going.
02:17:15.000This is this, is the real stuff, is it?
02:17:16.000The other guy gets it, he goes, no, this is crap.
02:18:09.000But it's like such a weird thing that some of it is so expensive and so revered that they have auctions for it.
02:18:16.000The autograph world is full of a bunch of bullcrap like that.
02:18:19.000Like, if you collect athletes' autographs and stuff, I'm friends with the guys at Icon Autograph in San Diego or whatever.
02:18:26.000And they're great guys, but like, I'll send them a photo of a thing and be like, this is selling at this like, you know, hotel lobby.
02:18:32.000So they have those, you know, when you walk in, it'll be like a photo of Taylor Swift framed, and it's just like cut her autograph on it.
02:18:38.000It's selling for like $5,000 or whatever.
02:18:41.000And I sent him a thing because the item was so unique that I was like, this is pretty special.
02:18:46.000It was a baseball autographed by Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe.
02:18:51.000To have both those names like on the baseball, I was like, there's no way this is at a silent auction right now for like a thousand bucks.
02:18:58.000I sent it to my autograph guy and he goes, dude, there's like one of those in the world and it sold at auction for like millions or whatever.
02:19:05.000So this guy, just somebody, like the guy you're describing putting dirt on the thought he could pull one over and probably did.
02:19:12.000I mean, I didn't go whistleblow or anything, but like he definitely does.
02:19:16.000Someone just wrote Joe DiMaggio on a baseball in Marilyn Monroe and put it in a fancy case.
02:19:22.000And, you know, some schmuck has that right now in his living room telling everybody about those ball he bought.
02:19:27.000I committed suicide a week after the story went viral over the summer.
02:22:45.000And there's a web, it seems like, of people that have contacted fighters and said, I will give you X amount of dollars if you lose this fight.
02:22:56.000And a bunch of people have said no to it and publicly talked about how they said no to it.
02:23:00.000You know, really good fighters and even went on to lose the fight, you know, unfortunately, and didn't get the money, but were open about it.
02:23:12.000So it's one, like Patchy Mix, who was Bellator champion, came over to the UFC, and he said that someone, I think he said somebody offered him $70,000 or something like that to lose a fight.
02:24:11.000Well, I know fighters have in the past.
02:24:13.000Because I think UFC fighters right now are not capable of betting on the UFC.
02:24:20.000I think it's not just the fighters, but the commentators, the coaches, referees, everybody.
02:24:27.000No one's supposed to be betting on the UFC because there was another betting scandal.
02:24:32.000And so the other betting scandal was there's this guy who is a active MMA fighter and a really good coach.
02:24:39.000And he got accused of using this Discord server.
02:24:42.000And they were running like a gambling Discord server.
02:24:45.000And a bunch of money came in on this dude to lose in the first round.
02:24:49.000And he went out there and he lost in the first round.
02:24:51.000And the word was that he was hurt and that it had been expressed to these people, bet against him because he's going to lose in the first round.
02:26:59.000It's those kind of little things where you can find that like, oh, this is on you.
02:27:02.000Like computers help in that way for sure.
02:27:04.000That's a tangled web if you're involved with people that are making money gambling and not on the square.
02:27:10.000So the thing is, if you're just gambling on the square, if you just watch a fight like Pereira versus Ankhalaev 2 and you say, I like Pereira to get that title back.
02:27:19.000I'm going to fucking, I'm going to put my money where my mouth is.
02:27:21.000I'm putting too large, too large on Pohoton.
02:27:28.000But when it gets to you have a prelim fighter and he's only making 10 grand and someone offers him, you're going to get choked in the first round.
02:32:05.000And he's got crazy wrestler power from the legs, you know.
02:32:08.000So when he leaps at you, like when he knocked out Dan Hooker, he lunges at you like he's shooting a double and throws a left hook at the same time.
02:32:17.000When he knocked out Dan Hooker in his UFC debut, who is a really respectable MMA fighter, a very good fighter, but he just got caught.
02:34:22.000So, people at this movie awards don't necessarily care.
02:34:26.000These guys are behind me, and they're like, This guy's fun because I'm making all these jokes and like goofing around.
02:34:31.000And I was already kind of like buzzed up.
02:34:32.000And so, then that Michael Chandler and these two other like Bellator guys, uh, Brog the Predator, you know, he is no, he was a Bellator guy too, a Cleveland guy.
02:35:16.000There were some real elite fighters out of Bellator, and a lot of guys, like, they came over to the UFC because they became famous in Bellator.
02:35:24.000Like, Ben Askren, he came over from Bellator.
02:35:27.000He actually did a stint at one FC before he came to UFC eventually.
02:35:31.000But there's a lot of guys that never came over, you know?
02:37:33.000Just because I want to know who's coming up, who's good, what's new, what different things are people trying that they've never done before.
02:42:00.000But what do you think about the idea of universal basic income?
02:42:04.000Because this is something that is being discussed with automation and with AI.
02:42:08.000And we were having a conversation about the other day with Elon, and he was saying that he thinks that AI can generate so much productivity that you could have universal high income.
02:42:41.000And if you didn't need money and no one needed money, would you just find a thing you love to do?
02:42:47.000And would we be able to rewire our brains and still have some feeling of value and of identity and without being attached to an occupation?
02:43:00.000Like, isn't it possible that we've just tricked ourselves into thinking that the only way to live is to live in a way where everything you're doing, you're doing is for money.
02:43:12.000And then if it's just everybody does their best at things and enough money is generated so that basically everybody has, like what he was saying, a universal high income.
02:43:26.000Like, what is AI going to do with production?
02:43:28.000What is AI going to do with automation, resource extraction?
02:43:31.000How much money is going to be generated that you're going to be able to literally have the entire population of the country under universal high income?
02:43:46.000Do they just find a thing like you and I have and do that and not care about money and really be into the thing?
02:43:53.000Can't that be taught if it's taught to you?
02:43:55.000If you figured it out and I figured it out, if people have figured it out, they figured out like find a thing you love and you're never going to work again because you're going to love doing it, whether it's building cars or painting or carpentry.
02:44:06.000If you really fucking love doing it, you do it because you love it.
02:44:09.000Wouldn't that be a better way to live?
02:44:21.000But as a thought experiment, wouldn't that be a way that's possible for people to live if it's possible for you to live that way?
02:44:29.000If it's possible for me to live that way, if it's possible to find enough people that are willing to do and love to do all the things that we need to keep a society running.
02:44:40.000I think the point of life, in my opinion, is meaning.
02:44:45.000So you associate whatever that means to you, right?
02:44:50.000So like a lot of people find meaning in being a mom or a dad.
02:45:19.000Me and Brad Williams were the first comics to go work in a comedy club with the new COVID restrictions.
02:45:24.000Because they knew if they called me or Brad, we'd say yes.
02:45:28.000Like Keith Stubbs called me from Salt Lake and goes, we're thinking about doing a show with all the restrictions and just see if the government shuts us down.
02:45:44.000Because that's where I personally find my meaning.
02:45:47.000Now, if I maybe was at home and going, man, I'm getting a lot more time with my kids and I'm getting a lot more time with my wife and like things are pretty productive around here.
02:45:57.000That's where I would have put my meaning.
02:45:58.000You know, I think like, and it's just where we put it.
02:50:37.000There's going to be no more need for lawyers, no more accountants, no more coders.
02:50:43.000Like all that stuff's going to be done with AI.
02:50:45.000It's going to get so weird if you're going to college right now because you could be going to college for something that's absolutely obsolete in three years.
02:51:04.000If that becomes something that controls everything, which is really ultimately what it's probably going to do, controls all of our power grid, all of our waste management resources, everything.
03:01:02.000And then also, we'll start doing a thing where it's like once a week we'll do the Face to face where I have like an interview with somebody that I like and sit down and do like a proper podcast.