The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2410 - Jeff Dye

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00:00:12.000 I'm trying to get to that.

00:00:13.000 Yeah, that's the key.

00:00:15.000 But they tricking me, Joe.

00:00:16.000 They're painting me in with the algorithm.

00:00:18.000 These motherfuckers, they get me too. 0.99

00:00:20.000 They get me in the morning.

00:00:21.000 I was just talking about it with Jamie.

00:00:24.000 Are we rolling?

00:00:25.000 Yeah.

00:00:25.000 I was just talking about with him is like I'm so good at like not caring what people think, sort of.

00:00:34.000 And then I find, no, I really care a lot.

00:00:36.000 Like I'm like in a constant tug of war of that.

00:00:39.000 Because I used to have Google alerts on.

00:00:41.000 Oh, no, for your name?

00:00:42.000 Yeah.

00:00:43.000 Yeah.

00:00:43.000 And then I had to get rid of that.

00:00:45.000 Oh, how dare you?

00:00:46.000 Then I was like, I'm going to check the YouTube comments.

00:00:48.000 So that was a ring that I had to close.

00:00:51.000 I'm slowly closing the rings.

00:00:52.000 The ring I'm stuck in right now is checking what like my comedy peers are up to.

00:00:57.000 You know, that kind of stuff.

00:00:58.000 The one that they make videos.

00:01:01.000 The videos they make of like, oh, so-and-so is, you know, having a breakdown or Mark Maron said this, or those kind of like those rings, you know?

00:01:11.000 Oh, no, no.

00:01:11.000 But I need to close that.

00:01:12.000 I want to get, I want to have no, none of it.

00:01:14.000 I don't want to check any comments or anything.

00:01:17.000 I'm much better at this stuff than I ever have been in the past of avoiding most things that are annoying.

00:01:24.000 But every now and then one will sneak in.

00:01:26.000 And then I'm like, why did I let that sneak in?

00:01:28.000 I texted that bother me.

00:01:29.000 Yeah, I texted you.

00:01:30.000 Yeah, I was going, hey, check this out.

00:01:31.000 He goes, don't send me shit like this.

00:01:33.000 The Ronda Rousey one didn't really bother me.

00:01:35.000 Okay, good.

00:01:36.000 I mean, I know what that is.

00:01:39.000 You know, like, she's a fucking pit bull, man. 0.98

00:01:42.000 That's the type of human.

00:01:44.000 Thanks, brother.

00:01:44.000 You're welcome.

00:01:45.000 Do you mind if I tell you my opinion of Ronda Rousey and you tell me if I'm right or not?

00:01:48.000 You're good.

00:01:49.000 Because you know what you're talking about.

00:01:50.000 And I am not a UFC.

00:01:52.000 Like, I like UFC, but I don't, you know, you know these things.

00:01:56.000 So I've always said, like, Ronda Rousey was a badass and was awesome at fighting when there was like 30 girls doing it professionally at her level. 1.00

00:02:08.000 Right?

00:02:09.000 That's why I said I might be wrong.

00:02:10.000 But then there was probably all these girls who could really fight all over the world, like in Japan and other countries, and even maybe even in America that just weren't in UFC. 1.00

00:02:18.000 They're like, I could probably beat this chick. 1.00

00:02:20.000 And now that there's so many women competing on this level, like Ronda Rousey probably isn't in her prime as badass as like the field. 1.00

00:02:29.000 Well, it's very difficult to, when someone's a pioneer, she's a legitimate pioneer.

00:02:36.000 It's very difficult to compare them to the people that have had a chance to study the pioneers and then advance the sport.

00:02:43.000 Right.

00:02:44.000 So what she was is, here you go.

00:02:47.000 She's a legend.

00:02:48.000 I mean, I got nothing but love and respect for that lady. 1.00

00:02:51.000 What she did was so impressive.

00:02:54.000 She was the first legitimate female superstar. 1.00

00:02:59.000 She made the UFC female division possible. 1.00

00:03:03.000 If it wasn't for her, Dana was very open about never having female UFC fighters. 0.99

00:03:09.000 It took someone that was that dynamic, that was that special, to open his eyes and go, you know what?

00:03:15.000 I think this lady's a star. 1.00

00:03:17.000 And to be the type, like, when she said, like, I wasn't an expert, everyone's entitled to their opinion, you know, but you got to understand why she thinks like that.

00:03:25.000 Because she's a fucking, she has a champion mentality. 1.00

00:03:28.000 You never fought, you ain't shit.

00:03:29.000 You know, it's like, it's real simple.

00:03:31.000 The football game.

00:03:31.000 You don't do that.

00:03:32.000 You didn't play?

00:03:33.000 You're like, yeah, but I studied the sport.

00:03:34.000 Doesn't matter.

00:03:35.000 You ain't shit.

00:03:36.000 I get it.

00:03:37.000 It's totally fine.

00:03:39.000 You can't judge her, like, compare her to like Zhang Wei-Li.

00:03:44.000 Because like Zhang Wei Li, who was the 115-pound champion, she had a chance to watch all these other people learn what they're doing right, what they're doing wrong, what's effective, what's not effective.

00:03:55.000 What Rhonda had is world-class judo, world-class, bronze medalist in the Olympics, one of the best arm bars, period, in the sport, in the history of the sport.

00:04:05.000 Her fucking arm bar, the technique was flawless. 1.00

00:04:09.000 There's a fight with her and Katzangano.

00:04:11.000 Katzangano launches at her, just fucking charged.

00:04:14.000 Katzangano was an animal, charges at her.

00:04:17.000 Ronda catches her in an arm bar in like 13 seconds. 1.00

00:04:20.000 I don't remember the exact time.

00:04:22.000 It was nuts, but it was perfect, perfect technique.

00:04:25.000 You know, you couldn't fuck with that.

00:04:27.000 But then she fought Holly home. 0.95

00:04:29.000 And when she fought Holly home, she was dealing with an elite boxer, an elite kickboxer, and a very physically strong woman who had an awesome game plan and who had a chance to study Ronda. 1.00

00:04:40.000 And maybe more importantly, came from a great camp.

00:04:43.000 And that camp, Jackson Wigglejohn camp, one of the best camps in the world.

00:04:47.000 John Jones came out of that camp.

00:04:49.000 Holly, Donald Cerroni originally came out of that camp.

00:04:53.000 A lot of great fighters came out of there.

00:04:54.000 So they were really good at game planning.

00:04:57.000 So they knew how Ronda likes to clinch. 1.00

00:05:00.000 They knew how Ronda likes to set up her takedowns and they knew what to avoid.

00:05:04.000 And then on top of that, Holly is just an elite striker. 0.80

00:05:07.000 So every time Rhonda tried to close the distance, the striking that she was very effective with against guys like Bech Kohea, these fighters that were a lower tier, it's not going to be as effective with someone like Holly.

00:05:22.000 And Holly started catching her on the feet and had her rocked and then landed that famous high kick and put her out. 1.00

00:05:28.000 Well, I thought they were like the same age and same era.

00:05:32.000 Like Holly's after.

00:05:34.000 She was able to learn from.

00:05:36.000 I wouldn't say they are the same era.

00:05:38.000 But Holly, you know, she had wins and losses. 0.59

00:05:42.000 She lost to Valentina Shevchenko.

00:05:44.000 She lost to some other fighters. 1.00

00:05:47.000 But it was stylistically, it was a great matchup for her because she's an elite striker. 0.61

00:05:53.000 She's really good at counter-striking, striking. 1.00

00:05:56.000 She's really good at movement.

00:05:57.000 And when Rhonda has to close that distance, every fight starts in the feet. 1.00

00:06:01.000 And when you're with a very physically strong woman, it's got good takedown defense and is good at like catching you as you're charging in. 0.99

00:06:08.000 That was the problem in that fight.

00:06:10.000 Also, the problem in that fight, I think, for Rhonda is when you start becoming really famous, then the hyenas show up. 0.99

00:06:21.000 And they start offering you this and offering you that and distracting you with this and distracting you with that.

00:06:27.000 And now you're going to meetings and you're talking to agents and you're setting up movies and you're doing this and you're doing that.

00:06:33.000 And all those things take away from the most important thing, which is your fighting.

00:06:39.000 Even if they don't take away from the amount of training you do, they take away from your focus.

00:06:44.000 They just, they rob you of the bandwidth.

00:06:47.000 You know, I always tell comics this when it comes to like dealing with haters and things online that you shouldn't read.

00:06:54.000 You only have, like, think of your mind as having a number of units of attention.

00:07:00.000 Think you have 100 units of focus.

00:07:04.000 Anything that eats into those units, anything that bothers you, that annoys you, that's useless, that doesn't help you, that's stealing from your 100.

00:07:13.000 You know, so now you only have 80 units or 70 units of focus because 30 of it is concentrated on bullshit.

00:07:19.000 It'll rob you of what makes you great.

00:07:23.000 So there was two factors.

00:07:24.000 There was the skill of Holly, the fact that she had all this opportunity to study Rhonda and with a great team and devise a game plan.

00:07:31.000 And then there's also the stealing of focus.

00:07:34.000 You know, Rhonda, I was one of the biggest champions of her as a fighter, as a like a legitimate pioneer and a star. 1.00

00:07:42.000 It was first, it was Gina Carano and Chris Cyborg to a certain extent, but Cyborg had an asterisk everybody knew she was Reuted up.

00:07:50.000 And then it was Ronda.

00:07:52.000 But Rhonda eclipsed all of them. 1.00

00:07:53.000 She's bigger than all of them. 0.74

00:07:55.000 I was a huge supporter and still am.

00:07:58.000 But when you watch a fight and you're watching you get your ass kicked and the other person is talking about how great the other person is doing and how bad you're doing, that doesn't sit well with a lot of people, especially like someone who's got that kind of champion mentality, that fucking pit bull mentality.

00:08:16.000 Like, I thought you were with me.

00:08:17.000 Fuck you.

00:08:19.000 And then it was after the fight.

00:08:21.000 I was very public about saying, I don't think she should fight for a long time.

00:08:27.000 They were talking about doing an immediate rematch.

00:08:29.000 And I was like, that's crazy.

00:08:30.000 Like, they were talking about doing a rematch in four months or something like that.

00:08:33.000 I was like, when you get headkicked into the shadow realm, you're supposed to take a long time off.

00:08:39.000 When Manny Pacquiao got knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez, it was a fucking picture-perfect right-hand who knocked it that knocked Manny Pacquiao out.

00:08:50.000 His coach, Freddie Roach, said, You can't fight for a year.

00:08:53.000 I don't want you doing anything for a year, for one year, because you got to heal up from something like that.

00:08:58.000 When you get knocked unconscious, it's not just that you'll be a touch gun shy, which is possible, but also that you're more vulnerable to getting hit.

00:08:58.000 It's bad.

00:09:08.000 And then you could ruin your chin forever.

00:09:10.000 Like if you get knocked out, there's certain fighters that used to have iron chins, like Chuck Liddell is one of the greatest examples of that.

00:09:16.000 He had an iron chin.

00:09:17.000 You could hit that dude with a fucking sledgehammer and he would just keep swinging at you.

00:09:21.000 And then eventually it got to the point where he would get clipped and he would just go out.

00:09:25.000 And it wasn't him.

00:09:27.000 It was his brain was broken.

00:09:30.000 It was too many times, too many shots, too many knockouts, too many impacts.

00:09:35.000 You got to preserve that.

00:09:37.000 You got to be very careful with that.

00:09:38.000 You got to take a long time off.

00:09:41.000 And then there was the Amanda Nunes fight.

00:09:43.000 So the Amanda Nunes fight, I was also very vocal that everybody was putting all of the attention in the promotion on Ronda making this huge comeback.

00:09:53.000 And if you watch the promos for that fight, I thought they were crazy disrespectful because the promos, and obviously, look, Ronda was a fucking huge star, a much bigger star than Amanda Nunes. 0.99

00:10:05.000 And that loss was a shocking upset to a lot of people that didn't understand martial arts and didn't think that Holly had a chance.

00:10:11.000 Didn't think anybody had a chance.

00:10:12.000 She's going to beat everybody forever. 1.00

00:10:14.000 But all of the promo was Ronda coming back. 0.98

00:10:18.000 All of it was like, she's coming back to take what's hers. 0.97

00:10:20.000 It was Ronda in a mansion looking out.

00:10:22.000 It was like the worst promo set.

00:10:25.000 Like Rhonda in a mansion, looking out the window, saying, I'm going to go get my title.

00:10:30.000 I don't know who made that.

00:10:31.000 I don't know what it was, but I remember being backstage the day of the fight.

00:10:36.000 And there was all these agents mulling around, all these Hollywood twats.

00:10:40.000 And this guy was like, I forget his exact words.

00:10:44.000 They were talking.

00:10:45.000 He didn't know who Ronda was fighting.

00:10:48.000 And he said, I don't know what her name is, but whoever it is, it's her funeral.

00:10:53.000 That's what he said.

00:10:54.000 And I was like, oh my God.

00:10:55.000 Like, these are the people.

00:10:56.000 Meanwhile, Amanda Nunes was the scariest person at 135. 0.99

00:11:01.000 And that's what I had said before she fought Holly Holm.

00:11:04.000 I mean, like Dana and I talked about, I said, I think Amanda's the scariest title challenger because she can flatline chicks with one punch. 1.00

00:11:11.000 She's very different than all the other ones.

00:11:13.000 She wound up flatlining Chris Cyborg.

00:11:14.000 It was a crazy fight.

00:11:15.000 She beats the fuck out of everybody. 1.00

00:11:17.000 She hits so hard, like way harder than most women. 1.00

00:11:21.000 And I was like, that's a dangerous fucking opponent.

00:11:24.000 And they're making it seem like this is all about the Ronda comeback when Amanda was the champion.

00:11:29.000 So Holly had beaten Ronda. 0.64

00:11:32.000 Misha Tate had beaten Holly.

00:11:34.000 And then Amanda had beaten Misha Tate. 1.00

00:11:35.000 So Amanda was the fucking champion. 1.00

00:11:39.000 But all the promotion was all about Ronda.

00:11:41.000 And then they were trying to do, like, pro wrestling.

00:11:44.000 I don't know what they were doing.

00:11:44.000 Like...

00:11:45.000 She'll come back.

00:11:46.000 I think, you know, they were just selling the fight.

00:11:48.000 They were selling it.

00:11:49.000 And the best way to sell it is, I guess, that way.

00:11:51.000 Who's more famous?

00:11:52.000 It's disrespectful to the champion, especially a fucking dangerous champion.

00:11:57.000 And if the champion wins, which I thought she was going to win, it sets up, it's not good to set her up.

00:12:05.000 Like, you should set her up.

00:12:06.000 Like, how fucking dangerous she is. 1.00

00:12:08.000 Now you got a bigger star.

00:12:09.000 Obviously, she wound up being a bigger star. 0.98

00:12:12.000 And Amanda's the greatest of all time, like widely considered to be the greatest mixed martial arts female fighter in history because she fucks everybody up. 1.00

00:12:19.000 She's just so dangerous. 0.82

00:12:22.000 So, and then that fight happens, and then that lady takes Rhonda out in the first round, just beats the piss out of her, just stops her standing. 1.00

00:12:31.000 It was brutal.

00:12:32.000 You know, I never had a bad thing to say about Rhonda.

00:12:35.000 I still don't.

00:12:36.000 I understand her mentality.

00:12:38.000 I mean, she's a champion-minded person.

00:12:41.000 Like, she's like, you're fucking with me or against me.

00:12:43.000 It's me against the world.

00:12:45.000 You know, she doesn't have a chip on her shoulder. 1.00

00:12:46.000 She's got a forest. 0.98

00:12:47.000 She's got a whole forest on her shoulder. 1.00

00:12:49.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:50.000 But that's why she was so good.

00:12:52.000 And we're lucky she's a woman. 0.58

00:12:53.000 If that lady was a man, she'd be Genghis Khan. 1.00

00:12:56.000 Okay.

00:12:56.000 She'd fucking take over the world.

00:12:58.000 She's an animal.

00:12:59.000 That's scary.

00:13:00.000 So that's why she has that opinion.

00:13:02.000 That's just how she thinks about things.

00:13:04.000 I was mad at her just as an everyday man because my nieces love any woman that's famous for any reason, you know? 0.93

00:13:12.000 And my nieces also aren't experts about UFC. 0.64

00:13:14.000 They're little girls.

00:13:16.000 And they just think it's cool that a woman's a badass. 1.00

00:13:19.000 They like that kind of stuff.

00:13:20.000 And so then when she lost to like, you know, be on TikTok, I mean, actually, people made TikToks of it.

00:13:26.000 It's not like Ronda Rousey was on TikTok, but like she was like on L and being like, I just wanted to quit.

00:13:31.000 And I saw my man and I just realized I want to have babies.

00:13:34.000 And I was like, this is not really the message.

00:13:36.000 You know, if you lose to just go be a pro wrestler or have babies.

00:13:42.000 Like, that's not like, I don't know.

00:13:43.000 I felt like it was a strange way for a champion to talk.

00:13:46.000 Yeah, but that's her legitimately as a human being. 1.00

00:13:49.000 That's what she wanted.

00:13:50.000 And there comes a time.

00:13:51.000 That's good.

00:13:52.000 No, that would be a fine way to frame it.

00:13:54.000 Well, she was being honest.

00:13:55.000 She wanted to have babies. 0.51

00:13:56.000 She didn't want to do it anymore.

00:13:57.000 And there comes a time where, look, every fighter can only redline for so long.

00:14:02.000 And the reality of fighting is you're redlining.

00:14:05.000 Lord Dravidian.

00:14:06.000 You know what a redline when the engine, you know, when your tachometer reaches like 8,000 RPMs, like, bam!

00:14:12.000 Right.

00:14:13.000 You can only do that for so long or your engine blows.

00:14:17.000 But to be in peak physical condition, to be able to fight in a championship fight, you essentially have to redline your body through camp.

00:14:24.000 You have to get your body to a place where it's at a rate.

00:14:27.000 You can't maintain fight shape.

00:14:30.000 It's not possible.

00:14:31.000 You get to a certain part, you peak, and then the last week you kind of drop off so that you can recover.

00:14:38.000 And so that Saturday night, when Saturday night rolls up and the lights go on in Madison Square Garden, you are as fucking ready as a human being can get.

00:14:46.000 But you can't maintain that and you can't do that forever.

00:14:50.000 And they think that there's a theory amongst mixed martial arts commentators and experts and what have you that it's about nine years.

00:14:58.000 Nine years is all it's possible to compete at a peak level.

00:15:02.000 And then you get a drop off.

00:15:04.000 Some people have more longevity than others.

00:15:06.000 It varies.

00:15:07.000 Some people, it's a much shorter reign.

00:15:09.000 And you got to kind of look at who they were when they were at the top.

00:15:13.000 You can only look at them when they're at that peak.

00:15:16.000 Like guys like Anderson Silva, he gets kind of dismissed because later in his life, the performances weren't the same.

00:15:25.000 They weren't elite performances.

00:15:27.000 But I say that's just human.

00:15:30.000 You got to look at him when he was the champion.

00:15:32.000 He was one of the most elite guys that's ever competed in a sport, period.

00:15:35.000 He's one of the greatest of all time.

00:15:36.000 But you can only, you got to look at when he was in his prime.

00:15:39.000 Sure.

00:15:40.000 You know, and there's only a certain amount of time you can do that.

00:15:43.000 And then when a fighter doesn't want to do that and only that anymore, you got to get out.

00:15:49.000 You got to get out because there's some fucking 20-year-old Mike Tyson out there.

00:15:53.000 There's some animal.

00:15:54.000 There's some dude that lives, breathes, sleeps fighting.

00:15:58.000 And all they want to do is land shots and take you out.

00:16:02.000 They just, that's their whole focus in life.

00:16:04.000 They don't give a fuck about relationships.

00:16:06.000 They don't give a fuck about where they live.

00:16:08.000 They don't give a fuck about anything, just winning.

00:16:10.000 And that's how you become a world champion.

00:16:13.000 That's how you become elite.

00:16:14.000 But you can only maintain it for so long.

00:16:16.000 It's not a normal way for a human being to exist.

00:16:19.000 It's a very strange way to live.

00:16:22.000 And for her, it's natural.

00:16:23.000 Like, she's a woman.

00:16:24.000 She's like, I don't have babies. 0.82

00:16:25.000 I have this great man.

00:16:27.000 And she's married to Travis Brown, who's also a beast, who is an elite UFC heavyweight, top 10 heavyweight.

00:16:33.000 You know, she's like, I'm done.

00:16:34.000 I'm going to make some warrior kids.

00:16:36.000 I get it.

00:16:37.000 I saw it.

00:16:38.000 I was like, what the hell does that mean?

00:16:41.000 She just didn't beat up equipment. 1.00

00:16:42.000 No, no, no.

00:16:43.000 Now my niece is rooting for Holly Holm. 1.00

00:16:45.000 Good lady. 0.91

00:16:46.000 Holly Holmes' nice.

00:16:47.000 She is nice.

00:16:48.000 Yeah.

00:16:48.000 That's what we like.

00:16:50.000 We like the winners who are nice.

00:16:53.000 Yeah, I get it.

00:16:54.000 But there's something about Rhonda being Rhonda that made the sport what it is.

00:16:59.000 But I roots for Luke Skywalker, not Darth Vader.

00:17:02.000 She's not Darth Vader.

00:17:03.000 Sure, Darth Vader's cooler, and he's probably more strong.

00:17:06.000 He's got the thing, you know.

00:17:07.000 But, you know, Luke's the good guy, and I like the good guy.

00:17:11.000 I root for the good guy.

00:17:12.000 She's not a bad guy.

00:17:13.000 She's, you know, like, look, her mother was a badass. 1.00

00:17:16.000 Her mother was an elite judo competitor.

00:17:20.000 Actually, I hate disagreeing with you, Joe.

00:17:23.000 But she went to wrestling, Rhonda. 0.99

00:17:26.000 And then she said all these terrible things about the wrestlers.

00:17:29.000 She said terrible things about you, she didn't say anything terrible about me.

00:17:33.000 She said you're not an expert.

00:17:35.000 That's all she said.

00:17:36.000 That's not terrible.

00:17:37.000 That's just an opinion.

00:17:38.000 It seems mean to me.

00:17:38.000 No, no, no.

00:17:39.000 That's all.

00:17:40.000 Look, if I was a pussy, it would be mean. 0.77

00:17:42.000 I defend it.

00:17:42.000 Well, I'm a pussy.

00:17:43.000 That's what I'm doing.

00:17:44.000 If I was we do, dude.

00:17:46.000 That's my whole idea.

00:17:48.000 I, uh, you know, she's kind of a grumpy, gnarly warrior, and warriors can be a little prickly. 0.53

00:17:55.000 She's definitely prickly. 1.00

00:17:56.000 Yeah, that's all.

00:17:57.000 But that's why she was awesome. 0.99

00:17:58.000 You know, that's what made her great.

00:18:00.000 That's what made her great.

00:18:00.000 It was great.

00:18:02.000 She broke that door wide open, and all the women that came afterwards follow. 1.00

00:18:07.000 And it's hard for women to become famous in MMA because it's hard for them to have the kind of spectacular results that men have. 1.00

00:18:15.000 They generally don't have as much power.

00:18:17.000 And unless they're like elite a judo or something like that, like she was, where they get arm bars and finish people quickly. 0.99

00:18:23.000 But that's what everybody likes.

00:18:24.000 Everybody likes dominance.

00:18:26.000 And I want them to be hot.

00:18:27.000 That helps.

00:18:28.000 That's a good one.

00:18:29.000 But it's hard to mix those worlds.

00:18:30.000 Yeah, you get Nisha, Warrior.

00:18:32.000 Her, Holly.

00:18:33.000 There's only a few of them that were really hot and elite.

00:18:36.000 In the old days, they weren't looking at the battle lines and they're going, oh, I wish these Warriors had more tits. 1.00

00:18:42.000 Like, that's what I'm like a very conflicted person.

00:18:44.000 I want him to be badass, but also hot.

00:18:46.000 Yeah.

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00:19:59.000 They're also going to be super crazy.

00:20:01.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:20:02.000 Especially while they're fighting.

00:20:03.000 You know, it's like, you don't really want that in your life.

00:20:06.000 It's like, no way.

00:20:07.000 You know what it's like?

00:20:08.000 It's like a muscle car.

00:20:09.000 Like, muscle cars are great to drive, but you don't want to take them on a road trip.

00:20:13.000 Dude, Shabby took me to.

00:20:15.000 So I have a great Lakers hookup, right?

00:20:17.000 I go to all the Lakers games.

00:20:19.000 And I invited Brandon Schaub when we first became friends.

00:20:22.000 I said, you want to come to the Lakers game with me?

00:20:24.000 We sit.

00:20:24.000 You like it.

00:20:25.000 We have great seats.

00:20:27.000 You will meet the owner.

00:20:27.000 It'll be great.

00:20:28.000 So that's my only kind of flex, you know, that can bring people to these kind of things.

00:20:31.000 I don't have a lot to offer, but I can offer that.

00:20:34.000 So he's like, yeah, I'll pick you up.

00:20:35.000 And he comes to my house.

00:20:36.000 Brandon Schaub comes to my house like in a race car.

00:20:39.000 I mean, this thing is, it's got the big spoiler on the back.

00:20:41.000 Also, we're both big guys.

00:20:43.000 I'm 6'4.

00:20:44.000 He's, I don't know how tall he is, but he's taller than me.

00:20:47.000 And we're in this tiny thing in traffic on the 101 going to a Lakers game.

00:20:52.000 And we can barely talk.

00:20:54.000 We're both talkers, you know?

00:20:55.000 And it's like, the whole time.

00:20:59.000 And I was just sitting, like, I went halfway through the drive.

00:21:02.000 Even though we were like new friends at the time, I'm like, what made you pick this car?

00:21:05.000 You have other cars.

00:21:07.000 And he goes, well, you're like a little kid, and my son loves this car.

00:21:10.000 So I decided I picked it because of you.

00:21:12.000 You're like a little kid.

00:21:14.000 And he was right.

00:21:14.000 That's hilarious.

00:21:15.000 Because when he pulled up, I was like, oh, this is awesome.

00:21:17.000 But then I got in and I was like, bro, we're not built for this thing.

00:21:20.000 It's dying.

00:21:21.000 But that's not like your analogy.

00:21:22.000 Like, that's not a day-to-day.

00:21:24.000 No, that's not a road trip car.

00:21:26.000 You want to be in a Cadillac.

00:21:28.000 You know, it'd be something that's quiet and real smooth and handles bumps well.

00:21:33.000 Exactly.

00:21:34.000 Like a person.

00:21:34.000 Right.

00:21:35.000 Someone.

00:21:35.000 Yeah.

00:21:37.000 You want a one-night stand?

00:21:38.000 You want a muscle car.

00:21:40.000 You want a long-term relationship?

00:21:41.000 Get a Lexus.

00:21:42.000 And if you go to Lakers game, bring a goddamn SUV or something.

00:21:45.000 Bring something to him.

00:21:46.000 It's not real.

00:21:46.000 We're in the traffic.

00:21:47.000 Bring something quiet with good air conditioning.

00:21:50.000 His heart was in the right place.

00:21:51.000 And he was completely right.

00:21:53.000 What car was it?

00:21:54.000 It was like, I wouldn't even be able to guess.

00:21:54.000 I don't know what it is.

00:21:57.000 You know, you're not into cars?

00:21:58.000 I love cars, but I like the cars I like.

00:22:00.000 I've always loved big, stupid things.

00:22:02.000 Like big military vehicles.

00:22:05.000 Have you seen his Hummer?

00:22:06.000 Yeah, I love all that stuff.

00:22:07.000 Yeah, he's got a real Hummer with a crazy diesel turbocharged engine.

00:22:12.000 Last time I was here and I did his podcast, he had this huge Bronco that he was like doing something where he's selling it, like enough people buy tickets for it or something like that.

00:22:20.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:21.000 And that truck was a beautiful truck.

00:22:23.000 And I like, like, that's what I like, is like big, stupid tires.

00:22:26.000 Anything in Mad Max, I loved.

00:22:28.000 Anything the military drives.

00:22:29.000 I was like, can I buy that?

00:22:30.000 They're like, no, this is not built for that.

00:22:33.000 You can buy a lot of things.

00:22:34.000 Yeah, but you got to go to those auctions and shit.

00:22:37.000 Yeah, you just got to know people.

00:22:39.000 You get a lot of things these days.

00:22:40.000 I would love that.

00:22:42.000 I've never owned anything that fits in my garage.

00:22:45.000 I have to park on the street all the time.

00:22:45.000 No.

00:22:45.000 No?

00:22:47.000 I had to get rid of my last Jeep because I put like 46-inch tires on it and I lifted it up.

00:22:52.000 And like, it has no doors and no top.

00:22:55.000 And so it's just parked in Sherman Oaks on the street.

00:22:58.000 And I'm on the road so much.

00:23:00.000 And it's just sitting there.

00:23:01.000 Just sitting there.

00:23:01.000 So I come back.

00:23:02.000 There'd be, you know, just like someone would walk by with like a soda and just throw it in there.

00:23:06.000 You know, because, you know, they don't care.

00:23:09.000 And they get mad at you.

00:23:10.000 Right.

00:23:10.000 What do you have to do?

00:23:11.000 Yeah.

00:23:11.000 And where I am, it's not popular to have cool big shit like that.

00:23:11.000 What a douche.

00:23:15.000 Sherman Oaks, it's popular to have a Prius with a coexist bumper sticker.

00:23:15.000 Right.

00:23:18.000 It's so annoying.

00:23:20.000 I have a cyber truck, and you can't really lift it, but since it has an air suspension, you can buy pins that make the air suspension one inch larger than whatever it's adjusting to.

00:23:33.000 Because if you put a lift on it, it's going to screw it all up.

00:23:37.000 So anyways, long story short, I have a lifted cyber truck with big, stupid tires on it.

00:23:42.000 And I drive into the comedy store parking lot and I'm like, this really isn't helping my reputation.

00:23:48.000 Every time I roll in, everyone's like, what is that?

00:23:51.000 It used to be that if you had a Tesla, you were signaling that you were a left-wing person.

00:23:56.000 100%.

00:23:56.000 You know, you're environmentally conscious, worried about carban.

00:24:00.000 Yeah.

00:24:02.000 That was one of the more crazy shifts.

00:24:04.000 And we could come up with a thousand of these, but like EVs used to be considered like this great thing you're doing.

00:24:10.000 Well, they still are.

00:24:11.000 Unless it's a cyber truck.

00:24:12.000 Unless it's a Tesla.

00:24:13.000 I get every day.

00:24:15.000 Really?

00:24:16.000 In my cybertruck.

00:24:17.000 Yeah, every day.

00:24:18.000 There's a video of this lady in New Jersey.

00:24:19.000 She gets out of a cybertruck, just gets out.

00:24:22.000 She was a passenger.

00:24:23.000 And this lady who's walking her dog goes, how's it feel to be racist? 0.75

00:24:27.000 And she's like, she's like, what are you talking about?

00:24:29.000 She got a ride.

00:24:30.000 She wasn't even driving.

00:24:30.000 Someone dropped her off.

00:24:32.000 She's like, what are you talking about?

00:24:33.000 Yeah, you're racist.

00:24:34.000 You're in a cybertruck.

00:24:35.000 You're racist.

00:24:36.000 And she's like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

00:24:38.000 You're crazy.

00:24:40.000 It blows my mind.

00:24:41.000 Well, people are always looking for every possible opportunity to be a shithead.

00:24:46.000 And if they can be a shithead, if they're justified in being a shithead because they disagree with you, they would be the meanest motherfuckers just to be a shithead.

00:24:56.000 And that activity happens primarily on the left.

00:25:01.000 Primarily.

00:25:03.000 Like, you don't see that from the right.

00:25:05.000 Like, if someone pulls up in a Prius with a coexist bumper sticker, you don't see a bunch of guys going, hey, you fucking pussy.

00:25:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:14.000 What are you, you supporting fucking Iraq? 0.51

00:25:16.000 What are you fucking?

00:25:16.000 Get out of our town.

00:25:17.000 You're supporting ISIS with your fucking bullshit fucking bumper sticker on your shit.

00:25:21.000 Your back-to-back car.

00:25:23.000 How's it feel to be an ISIS supporter?

00:25:25.000 You don't get that.

00:25:26.000 Ever.

00:25:26.000 But you get that from the left.

00:25:28.000 And I don't, I think it's the Trump thing.

00:25:30.000 I think Trump was such a figure, is such a figure of like an attack vector that they look at him like, eh.

00:25:38.000 It's fun for them.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, it's fun.

00:25:40.000 They have an energy.

00:25:40.000 It occupies their brain at all times.

00:25:43.000 Yeah.

00:25:43.000 They have an enemy.

00:25:44.000 Yeah, like Jimmy Kimmel's wife was doing some podcast recently, Jimmy and the wife.

00:25:48.000 And the wife was saying that she has a hard time talking to her relatives because they voted for Trump.

00:25:53.000 She says, like, if you vote for Trump, you're voting against my voice to them.

00:25:56.000 Yeah, you're voting against my husband and my family.

00:25:58.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:26:00.000 Well, I think that that's the big psyop.

00:26:02.000 They've made everything racial. 0.82

00:26:05.000 Everything is racial. 0.87

00:26:06.000 And so the last thing you want to be called is a racist, right?

00:26:10.000 So when you make it as simple as race, like just racial, like just that blanketly simple, then anything another color does, you'd be considered.

00:26:20.000 So you go, oh, I don't really believe, or I think Muslims are blank, whatever that sentence is.

00:26:26.000 And you go, racist.

00:26:27.000 And you go, well, well, there's surely some things we could criticize about maybe North Korea.

00:26:32.000 They go, oh, you're racist.

00:26:33.000 So it's like, it's because it's so simple and it's so vague.

00:26:36.000 And people love to keep vague things because then they can make their, I saw a comedian.

00:26:40.000 I won't say her name because I can't pronounce it.

00:26:42.000 But it's, that's why I won't say it.

00:26:44.000 Not because I'm holding back names.

00:26:45.000 Mary Lynn Reischkeb or Reiskib or whatever her name is.

00:26:48.000 Oh, I know Mary Lynn. 0.98

00:26:49.000 Yeah, she used to be really nice to me. 0.99

00:26:51.000 She used to be?

00:26:52.000 Yeah, she got caught talking shit about me and I DM'd her immediately.

00:26:57.000 And then she's like, and, you know, I think she's a nice person.

00:27:01.000 She's a very nice person.

00:27:02.000 Yeah, she's nice. 0.99

00:27:04.000 And people get caught up in that shit.

00:27:06.000 I saw her do a bit the other night in the lab where she was like, I'm texting with this guy and he said, she said, how are you?

00:27:15.000 And he said, oh, I'm just really sad today about Charlie, about Charlie Kirk.

00:27:20.000 And then she goes, and my hand was like, my phone was on fire.

00:27:23.000 I was like, oh, like, what?

00:27:26.000 And then the crowd laughed to her defense.

00:27:29.000 Like the lab at the improv thought this was a hilarious premise.

00:27:33.000 And then she said, she was like, what part of his ideas did you find so gripping?

00:27:40.000 Was it his racist?

00:27:42.000 She just started launching into like about how like the fact that a guy she liked would be sad about Charlie Kirk's assassination was the biggest turn off to her that she wrote like a whole bit about it.

00:27:55.000 And I was just in my mind, I was like, I can't believe that this is her take.

00:28:00.000 I can't believe it's a take that the crowd is on board with.

00:28:03.000 And I can't believe I'm in this town anymore.

00:28:09.000 Like it was like a moment for me where I was like, what?

00:28:14.000 Am I insane?

00:28:16.000 No.

00:28:16.000 Like that's what makes me, those are the moments where you go, I think I'm the crazy person.

00:28:20.000 There's a room full of people here who agree that Charlie Kirk must have been this terrible thing and hence deserves being publicly assassinated.

00:28:30.000 And if you feel sad about it, you're gross to her.

00:28:33.000 And she wants to throw her phone away.

00:28:34.000 And she wants to go, and that's hilarious to everyone.

00:28:37.000 Wow.

00:28:38.000 Because the simple vagueness of race.

00:28:42.000 You know, it's like this constant obsession with, you know, you have to agree with a socialist mayor in New York or you must be a racist or Islam. 0.89

00:28:53.000 They've just made it so vague that it's very easy to always label or put things in a thing.

00:28:59.000 Well, there's certainly cult-like thinking involved in both the right and the left.

00:29:07.000 It's a real problem with people that identify with any political ideology, whether they identify as being a conservative or identify as being a liberal.

00:29:17.000 It's a real problem because then you lose all your objective thinking and you have to agree with everything that this side supports.

00:29:24.000 And generally, that's never a good thing to just agree with like a swath of predetermined ideas.

00:29:32.000 Yeah.

00:29:33.000 And one is that public assassinations are okay and that they're not sad.

00:29:39.000 They're sad no matter who it is.

00:29:41.000 And I would say, even if Charlie Kirk was a terrible person, even if he was, which he was not, I knew him.

00:29:47.000 And he was not.

00:29:49.000 But even if he was, let's say they're right about all those things.

00:29:53.000 You're happy that he got shot?

00:29:55.000 No, the correct way to handle someone who has bad ideas is to confront them with better ideas.

00:30:01.000 It's not a 30-odd six round to the neck publicly where people are cheering.

00:30:07.000 That's crazy.

00:30:08.000 And they kept it vague.

00:30:10.000 They keep it vague.

00:30:11.000 That's how it always works.

00:30:12.000 It's like, well, I go, well, why are you posting on social media that you're happy about it or that you're not sad about it?

00:30:21.000 Just tell me simply why you think that.

00:30:24.000 And they go, well, because his ideas were dangerous.

00:30:26.000 Super vague.

00:30:27.000 Didn't say the ideas.

00:30:29.000 Didn't say how they're dangerous or why they're dangerous.

00:30:31.000 It's always vague.

00:30:33.000 Well, there's also a problem with clips.

00:30:35.000 When you take sound bites, like very short clips out of context of what someone's saying, and then you highlight that one particular sentence and the way they said that sentence, you could frame someone in a very different way than who they really are.

00:30:48.000 And I think there was some problems with some of the things that Charlie said, the way he said them, and in the fact that you could take it as a clip.

00:30:55.000 And one of them was the idea of DEI pilots.

00:30:59.000 Like the idea of any lowering of standards of anyone in a really important job, like a pilot, because a person is blank, fill in the blank, because they're a lesbian or because they're gay or because they're white or because they're Chinese or because they're black or whatever it is.

00:31:18.000 If you're lowering standards because you want more people of one thing, well, you've just made the skies a little more dangerous.

00:31:24.000 You made a very dangerous thing, which is flying, a little more dangerous.

00:31:28.000 So his statement was because they're doing this and they're trying to get, they're using DEI to hire people.

00:31:34.000 And when I get on a plane and I see a black pilot, I hope that they're qualified.

00:31:39.000 Or he wonders.

00:31:40.000 Yeah.

00:31:40.000 He said, I don't want, I hate that when I see a black pilot, my mind thinks, I wonder if they were part of a DEI hiring.

00:31:48.000 Correct.

00:31:49.000 Right.

00:31:49.000 That's, it's a problem in the way he said it.

00:31:52.000 Right.

00:31:53.000 Instead of saying that that way, because one of the things that I pointed out is that what DEI, especially in regards to education, the people that discriminate the most against, like people say it's a white supremacist idea to be against DEI.

00:32:11.000 The people that DEI discriminates the most against in education is Asians because Asians fucking kill it in universities.

00:32:20.000 They kill it.

00:32:21.000 So much so that there was a giant lawsuit at Harvard because they were making their admission standards more difficult for Asian people than they were for white people, for black people, for everybody else.

00:32:32.000 They made Asians more difficult because if they didn't, half of their fucking population in their classes would be Asian because they work harder. 0.89

00:32:40.000 It's a cultural thing.

00:32:42.000 You know, I grew up in Taekwondo and I grew up around a lot of Koreans.

00:32:46.000 And man, you haven't seen work ethic until you've seen first-generation Koreans who come over to America and, you know, they have those tiger moms and tiger dads. 1.00

00:32:58.000 That's a real thing.

00:32:59.000 That's good.

00:33:00.000 That is a fucking, I guess.

00:33:01.000 Well, I mean, for these sort of subjects.

00:33:03.000 It's good for getting trauma.

00:33:06.000 It's not great for their heads.

00:33:08.000 But if we're talking about the workforce or symphony, if it's just a meritocracy, if it's just a meritocracy, it's like who is the best student?

00:33:15.000 Who is the best this?

00:33:17.000 Who's the best that?

00:33:18.000 Yeah, it's good for that.

00:33:19.000 You know, but it's like, it's the same thing.

00:33:21.000 It was like trying to be a champion.

00:33:23.000 Like, you can only redline for so long before you go fucking crazy. 0.68

00:33:26.000 And the lack of balance between pleasure and struggle and discipline and fun.

00:33:33.000 You have to balance.

00:33:34.000 If you want to have a good life, and ultimately, you're supposed to be enjoying your life.

00:33:39.000 I don't think you could truly enjoy your life without some measure of discipline.

00:33:43.000 I think discipline is important.

00:33:45.000 It's the reason why you can enjoy the relaxing moments because you earn them.

00:33:49.000 You have to earn them.

00:33:50.000 But I do think you should have them too.

00:33:53.000 And when I was around a lot of Korean guys, like my friend Junksik, I've talked about him before, but he was a national champion.

00:34:00.000 When we were kids, he was not as talented as other people.

00:34:04.000 He wasn't as fast.

00:34:06.000 He didn't have any unusual genetic gifts that some people had.

00:34:10.000 But that motherfucker worked so hard. 0.63

00:34:13.000 He was in residency.

00:34:16.000 Okay.

00:34:16.000 So he was in medical school while he was on the national team.

00:34:20.000 So he would go to school all day.

00:34:22.000 And for workouts, sometimes he would take all his books, put them in his backpack, and run upstairs at the school.

00:34:29.000 Just run upstairs at the university.

00:34:31.000 That's how he'd get some of his cardio in.

00:34:33.000 And then he would come to the gym and he would be, you know, he'd come to the gym for nighttime training.

00:34:38.000 We train at like six o'clock at night, seven o'clock at night, and he would be just drained.

00:34:42.000 But he would fucking just dig in and get to it, man.

00:34:46.000 And it was just, it's that mentality is why Asians do so well in school. 0.97

00:34:52.000 It's like this pushing from their parents, the high pressure.

00:34:52.000 Right.

00:34:55.000 And again, I don't think it's so good for you psychologically.

00:34:58.000 I don't do that with my kids.

00:34:59.000 My kids do very well in school, but they do very well in school because of the example that I and my wife said of be a nice person, work really hard, have discipline, do the stuff you're supposed to do.

00:35:10.000 Don't fuck off.

00:35:11.000 You know, get the things done that you're supposed to do.

00:35:15.000 But would they be able to compete with some kid who just came over here from China? 0.97

00:35:19.000 Which is why other countries like America so much is because they realize, oh, if I work as hard as I can, maybe in wherever they live, India or some of these other places, it's not a promise that they'll succeed.

00:35:19.000 I don't know.

00:35:30.000 But they love a capitalistic America where, like, yeah, if I put in the work and my kids put in the work and I force my kids to put in the work, it'll work.

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00:36:57.000 This is where you see the hypocrisy of the education system, though, because they claim to be all about diversity.

00:37:05.000 Asians are part of diversity.

00:37:07.000 They're a small percentage of the population in America, but they're fucking killing it.

00:37:10.000 So, they tried to hold them back.

00:37:12.000 Right.

00:37:12.000 Because it's bullshit.

00:37:13.000 That's a problem.

00:37:14.000 Because in their mind, Asians don't complain as much.

00:37:17.000 They get to work more.

00:37:18.000 They're not the ones that are out there organizing and making signs.

00:37:22.000 They're not doing that.

00:37:23.000 They're fucking working.

00:37:24.000 They don't have time to be going to these rallies and cheering and chanting.

00:37:28.000 They fucking get to work.

00:37:29.000 So because of that, they're not as represented when it comes to grievances.

00:37:33.000 So you can get away with being racist against them.

00:37:37.000 And you can get away with discriminating against them in higher education universities like Harvard, which is just crazy because it shows you're lying.

00:37:47.000 You're not really caring about minorities.

00:37:49.000 You're caring about very specific minorities because they give you social clout to represent and to fight for them.

00:37:56.000 Like if you're fighting for black people, if you're fighting for trans people, those are the people that are really noisy and really loud. 1.00

00:38:03.000 And if you're on their side.

00:38:03.000 And you look good if you defend them.

00:38:04.000 You're virtuous.

00:38:05.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:38:06.000 That's what it is.

00:38:07.000 It's performative.

00:38:08.000 I think about it every week almost.

00:38:10.000 It sounds strange, but like these kind of things consume me.

00:38:13.000 I don't have a wife and kids, you know?

00:38:14.000 Like I think about these things all day.

00:38:16.000 But like I think about it with like in our in our business, you know, like there are so many women who complain like, oh, no girls on the lineup or only two girls on the line. 0.99

00:38:26.000 And I'm like, there's less of you.

00:38:28.000 That's all it is.

00:38:30.000 In fact, the fact that there's less of you in our industry is why you're able to stand out and succeed so much quicker than your male counterparts.

00:38:38.000 So yes, it can feel like a boys club because it is.

00:38:41.000 There's plenty of disadvantages to being a female comedian like putting up with these comedy club owners or working the road or like it is there's fans being creepy with creepy fans. 0.90

00:38:51.000 They're different.

00:38:52.000 100%.

00:38:53.000 And I'm sympathetic to the things female comics have to go through. 0.95

00:38:57.000 But if they just don't understand the numbers, like there's, there's girls in Los Angeles who are regulars at the improv and the laugh factory and the comedy store who have been doing it a few years.

00:39:08.000 And then there's guys that I know that have been doing it 15 years who us, you know, subjectively are very, very funny and fun, subjectively funnier than them, but at least inarguably funny.

00:39:20.000 And they can't get any spots at these places because we need more women comics. 1.00

00:39:26.000 I mean, we need more diverse lineups.

00:39:29.000 We have too many white male comics.

00:39:29.000 They've literally said that.

00:39:31.000 I've heard it my whole career.

00:39:32.000 It's crazy.

00:39:33.000 It's crazy to say.

00:39:35.000 I was in Boston, and there was this long line for this festival and all this thing.

00:39:41.000 It was to submit, like to do audition.

00:39:44.000 It was during last comic standing times.

00:39:45.000 So they were doing these things where they liked filming the line and going, look how many people are here to try out for our festival or whatever.

00:39:51.000 And someone came out and goes, listen, if you're a straight white guy, you better be real different.

00:39:58.000 And all of us just cut, because Boston, we're all straight white guys.

00:40:01.000 And I just remember being like, well, that kind of hurt my feelings a little bit.

00:40:04.000 Like, what does that imply?

00:40:06.000 I only know about my circumstances.

00:40:06.000 I don't know.

00:40:08.000 I can't have, I can't.

00:40:09.000 One time my agent said to Miss Timmy, he was talking, bragging about one of his clients.

00:40:13.000 And he was like, Jeff, listen, man.

00:40:15.000 I got this one client.

00:40:16.000 He's handsome.

00:40:18.000 His parents are deaf.

00:40:21.000 You know, he's black.

00:40:23.000 He's got all these great things that make him very interesting for the industry.

00:40:27.000 I think you're going to have to reinvent yourself or something.

00:40:29.000 I was like, I can't make things up.

00:40:32.000 Like, I don't know what to tell you.

00:40:33.000 That's just Hollywood.

00:40:35.000 Yeah.

00:40:36.000 And Hollywood's influence with the long tentacles of the octopus.

00:40:40.000 But we don't do that in Texas.

00:40:42.000 Like in the mothership, it's a meritocracy.

00:40:45.000 And because it's a meritocracy, it's very diverse.

00:40:48.000 Yeah.

00:40:48.000 You got a lot of women on the lineup.

00:40:49.000 You got a lot of all kinds of people, a lot of gay people.

00:40:52.000 And the one thing that people keep saying about the comedy mothership is, oh, it's a right-wing comedy club.

00:40:57.000 The vast majority of comics at my club are left-wing.

00:41:02.000 The vast majority.

00:41:03.000 Yeah, no, I can personally vouch for that.

00:41:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:06.000 There are reasonable lefties.

00:41:08.000 Yeah, they're kind of people.

00:41:09.000 Who can sit in a room with a comic who doesn't agree with their politics and still just be human?

00:41:15.000 Like, that's a great.

00:41:17.000 We should all aspire to that.

00:41:18.000 And that's what we aspire to at that club.

00:41:20.000 Like, we don't tolerate any bullshit, ideologically, one side or the other.

00:41:25.000 It's not supposed to be about that.

00:41:26.000 It's supposed to be about the art form.

00:41:28.000 And, you know, there's shit.

00:41:30.000 A lot of my fucking friends are like far left.

00:41:32.000 I don't care.

00:41:33.000 Are you nice?

00:41:34.000 Are you cool?

00:41:35.000 Do you have interesting thoughts?

00:41:36.000 Can we have conversations?

00:41:37.000 I'm down with that.

00:41:38.000 But there's this propensity, this thing that people do where they just decide you have a different ideology than me, so you're the enemy.

00:41:47.000 And I think that is one of the stupidest things you could do as a human being.

00:41:50.000 It's weak.

00:41:51.000 It's simple.

00:41:53.000 You're doing something that's just too convenient.

00:41:56.000 And you're doing it because you know it'll be supported by a bunch of other fucking morons because we're in a TikTok generation where most people don't have nuanced perspectives on things.

00:42:06.000 Yeah.

00:42:06.000 Like I am a Christian, right?

00:42:08.000 I've been a Christian since I was in my young 20s.

00:42:12.000 I talk about it in my act.

00:42:14.000 I talk about it in my life.

00:42:15.000 And guess what?

00:42:16.000 I have never once crashed out because of my Seattle comedian friends going on stage and calling Christians idiots or racists or fools or dummies.

00:42:28.000 I've never once gone, I can't share a green room with someone who would espouse that type of hatred towards my faith, right?

00:42:35.000 Never once.

00:42:35.000 I've heard every joke about straight white males.

00:42:38.000 I've heard every, and I'm nice and I can get laughs and I'm pleasant to be around in these comedy clubs.

00:42:44.000 But that's why you're doing well.

00:42:46.000 And I'm now.

00:42:46.000 Right.

00:42:47.000 And I am.

00:42:48.000 But you're doing well because you became undeniable.

00:42:50.000 And that's the real meritocracy aspect of comedy is that if you kill, if the audience laughs and people keep coming to see you, you have an audience.

00:42:50.000 Yeah.

00:42:58.000 Right.

00:42:59.000 And the one thing that drives a lot of people crazy is they've, I've done all the right things and no one comes to see me because you forgot the one thing.

00:43:07.000 You might have been doing this.

00:43:08.000 You forgot the one thing.

00:43:09.000 Be funny.

00:43:10.000 You fell into all the easy stuff.

00:43:10.000 That's it.

00:43:12.000 All the easy stuff is align yourself with the group, all the group think, all the fucking chant all the right stuff.

00:43:19.000 Say all the right things.

00:43:20.000 Say things that don't even make sense.

00:43:22.000 Right.

00:43:22.000 So that you appear to Mark Marines.

00:43:26.000 The second I got passed at the comedy store.

00:43:29.000 Multiple comics went to the booker and was like, he shouldn't be here.

00:43:34.000 He does jokes about gay people.

00:43:36.000 And he does jokes about, he says, yeah, yeah, I do.

00:43:38.000 Guess what?

00:43:39.000 And they kill.

00:43:40.000 And I get laughs.

00:43:42.000 But again, you can still come up to me and talk to me.

00:43:45.000 And like, I'm not, I like everybody.

00:43:48.000 I like trans people.

00:43:49.000 I have plenty of gay friends.

00:43:50.000 I, I, I, you know.

00:43:53.000 You have jokes about straight people too, and you are one of them.

00:43:56.000 It's also fun to be naughty, isn't it?

00:43:56.000 That's the thing.

00:43:58.000 Yeah, I love women, but I trash them pretty hard in my act. 1.00

00:44:02.000 You know, and so the only reason I was bringing all that up is that, like, I feel like I've never once gone, I can't talk to someone because of their stand-up comedy.

00:44:12.000 I'm not going to go to the improv and go, Mary Lynn Reiskib shouldn't be allowed here because what she said about Charlie Kirk, and I was offended.

00:44:19.000 I bet if you had a conversation with her about it, an actual conversation, it would be very reasonable.

00:44:24.000 Yeah, because people are people, and we should be able to share these spaces with these people no matter what we think.

00:44:28.000 I'm not so far right or so far Christian that I go, I can't be in the same room. 1.00

00:44:34.000 That's what cult people think.

00:44:35.000 Also, if you had a conversation with her and confronted her with the reality of what that guy had said, some of the conversations that he had with both trans people, people of color, all kinds.

00:44:46.000 He was a very kind person.

00:44:47.000 100%.

00:44:48.000 The problem is you don't look kind when there's clips and the clips show you saying something.

00:44:53.000 Aren't you afraid of that?

00:44:54.000 Yeah.

00:44:54.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:56.000 Listen, I'm kind of a little bit inoculated against that because I have so many hours of me talking.

00:45:04.000 So did he.

00:45:06.000 Yeah, but in a different way.

00:45:07.000 Where people are listening to me having these three-hour conversations.

00:45:11.000 It's like, it's kind of hard to label me to anybody who's paying attention.

00:45:16.000 And it's just the, it's also the benefit of having the biggest platform in the world.

00:45:20.000 Right.

00:45:20.000 Like, it's like, there's enough people that have seen so many shows that are like, I know who that guy is.

00:45:26.000 That's not who that guy is.

00:45:28.000 I think you're giving them a lot of grace.

00:45:32.000 You have to.

00:45:33.000 Because people always go, aren't you afraid of AI?

00:45:35.000 No, I'm not afraid of AI.

00:45:36.000 What I'm afraid of is clips, short context things.

00:45:40.000 Even recently, I did Howie Mandel's podcast and I got asked for the millionth time about the Mark Maron thing.

00:45:46.000 And I was like, dude, the good part of that Mark Maron story is that we buried it.

00:45:52.000 I think.

00:45:52.000 Who knows?

00:45:53.000 It'll rear its head again, I'm sure.

00:45:54.000 I'm not with that guy.

00:45:55.000 There's no burying anything.

00:45:56.000 I know.

00:45:56.000 But I was like, how about that story?

00:45:58.000 Tell that story, Howie, that we shook hands at the comedy store and were able to share a stage and not stage, but share a room full of stages.

00:46:06.000 And it just, Howie Mandel's team just posted the thing.

00:46:12.000 So, you know, all the comments are like, Jeff Dog, I can't stop talking about Mark Maron again.

00:46:16.000 What I'm saying is that Charlie Kirk's guilty of, or not guilty of it, but a victim of it.

00:46:22.000 This short, real thing that is out of context.

00:46:26.000 It's not a three-hour conversation.

00:46:28.000 No one's listening to Trump in long form.

00:46:30.000 No one listened to Charlie Kirk in long form.

00:46:32.000 The people that were informed did.

00:46:34.000 But I'm saying the everyday person is kind of just kind of collecting these excerpts and then forming a groupthink about those excerpts.

00:46:44.000 And the groupthink becomes their reality.

00:46:47.000 That's very true.

00:46:48.000 And I'm afraid of that for you.

00:46:49.000 Yeah, that's true in some ways, but it also benefits you in some ways too.

00:46:55.000 It's like there's good and bad.

00:46:57.000 Like there's little things that you'll say that are funny that make it into clips.

00:47:01.000 And that's good too.

00:47:02.000 It's like the thing, like I was talking to Tony about this because we were talking about people that complain about his show and talk shit about a show.

00:47:10.000 I go, dude, they work for you.

00:47:12.000 They don't realize it, but they work for you.

00:47:14.000 They're the publicity arm, the negative publicity arm for the Kill Tony show.

00:47:18.000 You don't worry about it and don't care.

00:47:20.000 You can't, you know, write a book on that.

00:47:23.000 It's teaching me how to not care.

00:47:25.000 You just got to get to a point where you don't have to care anymore.

00:47:28.000 Like, it's not going to affect you.

00:47:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:47:32.000 But if you're in that position where I'm in that kind of sort of, you're not totally ever in that position, but you're much more in that position than the average person.

00:47:41.000 It's your duty to not care.

00:47:43.000 It's your duty to set an example and to say, look, you're supposed to be, when you get to the top, you're not supposed to be mean and like defend it and push everybody down.

00:47:52.000 You're supposed to lift everybody up and be what you would hope the guy at the top would be.

00:47:57.000 Be supportive, try to help other people's careers, try to promote them, tell everybody how cool they are, tell everybody how funny they are, tell everybody good things that you know.

00:48:05.000 Instead of complaining all the time about everything, find cool shit and inform people about it.

00:48:11.000 Tell people cool shit that you've seen, cool restaurants you've been to, cool music you've listened to, cool people you met.

00:48:17.000 Do that.

00:48:18.000 That's what I try to do.

00:48:20.000 And that's my, that is my obligation, I think, in having the top podcast.

00:48:27.000 You have to set an example that's beneficial for not just me, but for everybody.

00:48:33.000 Sure.

00:48:33.000 Yeah.

00:48:34.000 And don't care as much.

00:48:36.000 Don't care as much about haters.

00:48:38.000 You're going to have haters.

00:48:39.000 The idea that you're not going to have people that hate you is crazy.

00:48:42.000 Fucking, you could get like the one of the things that I know from MMA, the greatest fighters, the best guys in their prime.

00:48:51.000 There's going to be guys coming up that say he ain't shit.

00:48:53.000 I'll fuck him up.

00:48:54.000 I'll take him out in one round. 0.67

00:48:55.000 There's always that.

00:48:57.000 He's got no defense.

00:48:58.000 He's got no chin.

00:48:59.000 He's got no heart.

00:48:59.000 He's only good when he's winning.

00:49:01.000 As soon as it gets turned on him, he's going to fold.

00:49:03.000 There's always someone talking.

00:49:06.000 And if you live your life constantly responding to those people, it's a waste of that 100.

00:49:13.000 That 100 units of attention and focus that you have.

00:49:17.000 You got to protect that.

00:49:19.000 You got to guard that 100 units, man.

00:49:21.000 Don't let anybody steal your units with a comment on YouTube.

00:49:25.000 And it's never in real life for me.

00:49:27.000 Right.

00:49:28.000 It's never in real life.

00:49:29.000 Well, that's the problem.

00:49:30.000 I have to open this shit before I spiral out.

00:49:34.000 Even in my town of Los Angeles, you know, people go, why yeah, this fucking dump.

00:49:39.000 And then I and then I'm walking around in Sherman Oaks.

00:49:42.000 I've got my coffee.

00:49:43.000 I'm seeing dogs.

00:49:44.000 I'm seeing hot chicks. 1.00

00:49:45.000 I'm like Brees is like, man, what's up, Jeff?

00:49:47.000 Like, I have friends, beautiful weather.

00:49:49.000 Yeah, wherever I go, like, because I go to the same spots and I talk to everyone.

00:49:52.000 So, like, I've accumulated all these people who go, oh, you know, that community is the best or whatever.

00:49:57.000 Like, in my little community.

00:49:58.000 But then I turn on my phone.

00:50:00.000 You see this Obambabadomi guy? 1.00

00:50:02.000 He's a Muslim.

00:50:03.000 He's going to ruin New York.

00:50:05.000 And then I start going, yeah, yeah, what the hell's going on with this?

00:50:08.000 I think New York is due for a little socialist wake-up call.

00:50:12.000 Oh, yeah, they'll wake up.

00:50:13.000 These things are.

00:50:15.000 They're going to have 5,000 police officers have threatened to resign.

00:50:19.000 Don't you think New York deserves that?

00:50:20.000 Is that true?

00:50:21.000 Find out if that number is true.

00:50:21.000 Is that true?

00:50:22.000 Because here's the problem with those kind of things.

00:50:24.000 It's like right-wing people post stuff like that.

00:50:26.000 And you're like, is that real?

00:50:29.000 You know, are they really going to defund the police?

00:50:31.000 Are they really going to have to be able to get out of here?

00:50:33.000 I am buying a house.

00:50:35.000 Are you?

00:50:35.000 In Texas?

00:50:36.000 Yeehaw.

00:50:36.000 Yep.

00:50:37.000 Yeah.

00:50:37.000 Like about 30, 40 minutes from here.

00:50:40.000 Nice.

00:50:40.000 You're already locked on it?

00:50:41.000 No, but I'm shopping for houses on Wednesday.

00:50:44.000 Wednesday.

00:50:44.000 Oh, tomorrow.

00:50:45.000 Oh, tomorrow.

00:50:45.000 I got a good lady if you need one.

00:50:48.000 She's the best.

00:50:48.000 I have a chick who's pretty good.

00:50:50.000 She's like the number one in Arizona.

00:50:52.000 Arizona's not Texas.

00:50:53.000 I know, but she has all these contacts. 0.94

00:50:56.000 Okay.

00:50:56.000 Also, I just know her.

00:50:57.000 So that helps.

00:50:57.000 Okay.

00:50:57.000 I'm trying to.

00:50:58.000 It's good to be loyal.

00:50:59.000 Yeah.

00:50:59.000 And she found a bunch of good stuff about 40 minutes from here.

00:51:04.000 Well, that's good, too.

00:51:05.000 40 minutes from here, out in like Tripping Springs area.

00:51:07.000 It's quiet.

00:51:08.000 That's what I want.

00:51:09.000 It's quiet at night.

00:51:09.000 I want to.

00:51:10.000 You hear.

00:51:12.000 I want to go to a lake.

00:51:13.000 Oh, oh, oh.

00:51:14.000 Be able to like, I'm kind of in this kind of LA thing.

00:51:14.000 You know?

00:51:18.000 And I could be guilty of being a victim of like what I'm absorbing in my algorithm.

00:51:26.000 But like, Gavin Newsom scares the shit out of me.

00:51:29.000 And I don't want to be a part of it.

00:51:33.000 Yeah.

00:51:34.000 He wants to run the whole country, too.

00:51:36.000 It's wild.

00:51:37.000 Pretty wild.

00:51:38.000 And those.

00:51:38.000 Those fires were quite a wake-up call for even if whatever you believe about the fires, the way it was dealt with was pretty scary.

00:51:45.000 It was not competent.

00:51:46.000 That's for sure.

00:51:48.000 Even the aftermath.

00:51:48.000 Yeah.

00:51:49.000 It was not competent.

00:51:51.000 The conversations about talking to different developers about doing stuff with the land and destination.

00:51:58.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:51:59.000 It's like, what do you mean?

00:52:00.000 Oh, we'll make a smart town.

00:52:01.000 You're like, that's kind of what the conspiracy people were saying before this stuff happened.

00:52:04.000 Did you see when he's doing a little dance in front of burnt houses?

00:52:07.000 I know.

00:52:07.000 Are you a sociopath?

00:52:10.000 Yeah.

00:52:10.000 Because that's how sociopaths behave.

00:52:11.000 They're not totally broken up by the fact that a giant chunk of your city burnt to the ground.

00:52:17.000 Did 5,000 people resign?

00:52:19.000 I don't think they say they threatened to resign.

00:52:22.000 There's no credible evidence of 5,000 peace officers resigned.

00:52:25.000 Okay, why don't you say, did they threaten to resign?

00:52:28.000 I did when I typed it in Google and I got the same answers.

00:52:30.000 Oh, okay.

00:52:32.000 In perplexity, it says, did 5,000 people resign?

00:52:35.000 No.

00:52:36.000 What actually happened, official data and statements from NYPD representatives confirmed there has been no mass walkout, while police union leaders and some critics have warned of potential wave of resignations or feared attrition.

00:52:48.000 See, that was the thing.

00:52:49.000 Social media posts alleging 5,000 officers, I didn't see any that said resign.

00:52:54.000 I saw something that said are threatening to resign.

00:52:57.000 Go back to where I was reading.

00:52:59.000 Once have been debunked as rumors or satire.

00:53:04.000 NYPD has about 33,745 uniformed officers as of late 2025 with staffing down only slightly from the previous year.

00:53:14.000 So it's like maybe it's one of those things where someone talked to some people and they said, I know a lot of guys.

00:53:22.000 A lot of guys are threatening to resign.

00:53:23.000 Well, I mean, that's a serious thing to talk about anyways, whether it's true or not on the numbers.

00:53:28.000 Like, it's not a fun time to be a police officer.

00:53:30.000 For the last, like, pre-Black Lives Matter, I know a lot of cops just in my life.

00:53:37.000 I used to perform once a year for their Christmas thing at the LAPD.

00:53:41.000 Great audience members.

00:53:42.000 You want to talk about good audience members?

00:53:44.000 Police, military, nurses, anyone who deals with real life, very good audience members.

00:53:49.000 They can take a joke.

00:53:50.000 Yeah, oh, great at taking jokes.

00:53:51.000 And they need to see the humor in life, you know?

00:53:53.000 Like, they're looking for a clown to laugh at because they deal with real shit.

00:53:58.000 But that aside, in the last eight years, when cops tell me they're cops at shows, it's like, hey, you know, I'm a police.

00:54:08.000 And I'm like, what's with this embarrassment?

00:54:10.000 Like, why do you feel like you need to be like an undercover police officer when you're like, whisper it?

00:54:16.000 Yeah, why?

00:54:18.000 I like cops.

00:54:19.000 I think that they're great.

00:54:20.000 They have to go into someone's worst day of their life every day.

00:54:23.000 Anytime you've ever had to call a cop, it's not a great day.

00:54:25.000 It's not a great thing that's happening.

00:54:27.000 And they have to enter someone's worst day every 15 minutes or every hour.

00:54:31.000 And I have a tremendous amount of respect for people that do that.

00:54:35.000 And they feel ashamed to be a cop because they've been vaguely blanketed as like oppressors or racist or some sort of power-hungry bad guys.

00:54:47.000 And that's probably a little worse in NYPD right now as far as being in the city with what's going on.

00:54:54.000 So I imagine there's a lot of people who are threatening the same way whenever someone's president isn't the president they want.

00:55:00.000 They go, I'm going to move.

00:55:01.000 They make those kind of threats.

00:55:02.000 Some people do move.

00:55:03.000 Yeah.

00:55:03.000 Some people do.

00:55:04.000 On Rich Guys are really getting out of it.

00:55:04.000 Rosie.

00:55:06.000 I respect Rosie Nellen for that.

00:55:07.000 Don't you respect that?

00:55:09.000 Every celebrity says they're going to leave.

00:55:11.000 Well, it's dumb that they left because now they just can't vote.

00:55:14.000 After the end of that, you're living in Ireland.

00:55:16.000 But at least they said what they were going to do.

00:55:17.000 You're living in England and then your neighbors in England don't like you either.

00:55:20.000 Yeah, because they're like, yeah, exactly.

00:55:22.000 But that's true.

00:55:23.000 But at least they left.

00:55:24.000 They've got to move to a new place in England.

00:55:26.000 Hundreds of celebrities said they would leave and didn't.

00:55:28.000 That's true.

00:55:29.000 Yeah, there's always a lot of that.

00:55:30.000 A lot of people said they were going to move to Canada.

00:55:32.000 Great.

00:55:32.000 Good luck with that.

00:55:33.000 But now you're just America light?

00:55:35.000 Well, you're America communist.

00:55:37.000 Canada's nuts.

00:55:37.000 Now.

00:55:39.000 But now you're still reliant on America.

00:55:42.000 I know Sat that I wanted to look up that I just read.

00:55:45.000 I put this in the perplexity.

00:55:48.000 One out of 20 deaths last year, I read this article that was saying was assisted suicide.

00:55:55.000 That can't be true.

00:55:56.000 That can't be true.

00:55:58.000 Where'd you see it?

00:55:59.000 Because Aquino Canada has an assisted suicide program, a national assisted suicide program.

00:56:04.000 Yeah.

00:56:05.000 Can you imagine if there's some corruption in that?

00:56:07.000 Holy crap.

00:56:08.000 There's corruption in everything, Jeff.

00:56:11.000 Everything.

00:56:12.000 Everything.

00:56:12.000 That's a bad thing.

00:56:13.000 There's corruption in religion.

00:56:16.000 There's corruption in science.

00:56:16.000 Right?

00:56:18.000 There's corruption in medicine.

00:56:20.000 Which becomes a great excuse to not be a part of those things.

00:56:24.000 Oh, I won't even question if I have a creator because there's fouled people in the church. 0.73

00:56:29.000 You're like, that's so stupid.

00:56:31.000 Well, yeah.

00:56:32.000 It's accurate for Canada. 0.91

00:56:34.000 Wow.

00:56:35.000 No, of course not America.

00:56:37.000 Yeah, just yeah.

00:56:38.000 Canada.

00:56:39.000 There's still not in it.

00:56:39.000 Let me see this.

00:56:41.000 So the perplexity.

00:56:42.000 Look at this.

00:56:42.000 This is crazy.

00:56:45.000 Medical assistance in dying, known as MAID, also known as assisted suicide or euthanasia, accounted for approximately 4.7% of all deaths in Canada.

00:56:57.000 That's wild.

00:56:58.000 That is so crazy.

00:57:00.000 How do we get more specific?

00:57:01.000 Like, what would be an example of like?

00:57:03.000 We'll read into it.

00:57:04.000 This proportion is equivalent to about 1 in 20 deaths across the country.

00:57:07.000 That is so fucking insane.

00:57:11.000 One out of 20 people who die in Canada are getting assisted suicide.

00:57:15.000 How many of those fucking people you could have given mushrooms to?

00:57:19.000 They could have had an Ibergain journey.

00:57:22.000 Maybe they could have fucking done something differently with their life to get them out of depression.

00:57:29.000 How many of them could have gotten alternative medical treatments that have dealt with their condition?

00:57:35.000 So what are the conditions?

00:57:37.000 Did you put that in there, Jamie?

00:57:38.000 The average age of them is 70.

00:57:42.000 So they're actually old.

00:57:43.000 Yeah, that is old.

00:57:44.000 But however, my mom's 80.

00:57:46.000 She's great.

00:57:48.000 Like, what's going on?

00:57:50.000 Yeah, this isn't one of.

00:57:52.000 But what is it?

00:57:52.000 Are you not in the middle?

00:57:53.000 Just because you're 77, are you not enjoying life?

00:57:56.000 Or is it one out of 20 people are dying of a terminal illness?

00:58:02.000 And I am being short-sighted because I'm not thinking, they're like going to die soon anyway.

00:58:07.000 They choose to die on their own.

00:58:09.000 Is that the case?

00:58:09.000 Track one is natural death is reasonably foreseeable, and track two is not reasonably foreseeable for natural death.

00:58:16.000 Right.

00:58:17.000 So track two recipients, this is where it gets weird because some of them were chronically obese.

00:58:23.000 Some of them were chronically depressed.

00:58:26.000 They were doing it for people that don't really have a disease.

00:58:30.000 So what are the parameters?

00:58:33.000 Let's put this, ask a follow-up.

00:58:36.000 What do you have to have wrong with you to qualify for MAID in Canada? 1.00

00:58:41.000 Let's just ask that.

00:58:42.000 How do you qualify for MAID? 1.00

00:58:43.000 Because if it's just you're depressed.

00:58:45.000 That's scary.

00:58:46.000 That's crazy.

00:58:47.000 And very irresponsible.

00:58:47.000 Right.

00:58:50.000 If you have cancer and they're trying to just like, I'm done with my fight.

00:58:53.000 Please help me.

00:58:54.000 Right.

00:58:55.000 Is what track one is.

00:58:56.000 We're talking about track two.

00:58:58.000 Be at least 18 years old and capable of making health care decisions.

00:59:02.000 Be eligible for publicly funded health services.

00:59:05.000 Okay, that's normal.

00:59:06.000 Voluntary request, informed consent, have a serious and incurable illness, disease, or disability causing enduring and intolerable suffering that cannot be alleviated under conditions acceptable to the person.

00:59:19.000 But that's the key word, the key phrase there, acceptable to the person is interesting.

00:59:24.000 Be in an advanced state of irreversible decline in capability.

00:59:28.000 Okay, are people with depression, just write severe, are people with severe depression eligible for MAID?

00:59:36.000 Write that.

00:59:40.000 Severe depression.

00:59:41.000 Because a lot of people would say that is an incurable disease.

00:59:50.000 Where would we be without the Red Squiggly line? 0.98

00:59:52.000 I don't know how to spell anything else.

00:59:53.000 I can't spell anything ever.

00:59:54.000 I never have been.

00:59:55.000 Jimmy, you're rolling the dice with eligible?

00:59:58.000 You're an animal.

01:00:01.000 In Canada, people whose sole underlying medical condition is severe depression or any other mental illness are currently not eligible for medical assistance in dying.

01:00:09.000 This temporary exclusion includes psychiatric conditions like depression and personality disorders.

01:00:15.000 The law excludes eligibility for MAID on the basis of mental illness alone in March 17, 2027.

01:00:24.000 However, people with mental illnesses may be eligible if they have a grievous, grievous, grievous, or irremediable.

01:00:33.000 Boy, that's a word.

01:00:34.000 Have you ever said that word?

01:00:35.000 Irremediable?

01:00:36.000 Irremediable.

01:00:37.000 I've never said that word.

01:00:39.000 But I've never even seen that.

01:00:40.000 Irremediable?

01:00:42.000 Physical health condition that meets MAIDS criteria.

01:00:45.000 The government has delayed eligibility expansion for mental illness due to concerns around safety and appropriate safeguards.

01:00:52.000 When MAID for mental illness becomes legal, they say it like it was.

01:00:57.000 Oh, okay.

01:00:58.000 That's what I'd read.

01:00:59.000 Okay, this was the issue.

01:01:00.000 So they were going to.

01:01:02.000 Okay.

01:01:02.000 The law excludes eligibility for MAID on the basis of mental illness alone until March 17, 2027.

01:01:09.000 So there's a year and a few months.

01:01:11.000 And then these people are eligible for this.

01:01:14.000 As of 2025, severe depression alone is not qualified.

01:01:17.000 So what it seems like is a lot of people that are just not doing well.

01:01:21.000 It's the end of their life.

01:01:23.000 And they're like, I'd like to go out on my own terms.

01:01:26.000 I don't want to just walk into a library with a 44 and make people clean up. 1.00

01:01:31.000 Or they go, I'm a financial burden on my family.

01:01:33.000 Right.

01:01:34.000 Or those kind of things.

01:01:35.000 Yeah.

01:01:35.000 When you're an old person, you feel a little guilt that, like, ah, my kids.

01:01:39.000 And also, sometimes people, like one of their loved ones dies and they don't want to be alone.

01:01:39.000 That's true.

01:01:43.000 They just can't.

01:01:44.000 They've been with this person for 45 years.

01:01:46.000 My dad just died, and my mom is not doing great.

01:01:49.000 She's been with him since she was 17.

01:01:51.000 It's very hard.

01:01:52.000 My grandfather died one year after my grandmother died, and he was fine up until then.

01:01:58.000 And it was just like the grief was just intolerable.

01:02:02.000 Yeah, and she's feeling a lot of guilt because he was kind of cognitively, I don't know, I don't know how to say it politely.

01:02:11.000 He was just kind of not himself for the last year.

01:02:14.000 And so when he passed, my mom did feel a little relief.

01:02:20.000 Like, you know, oh, yeah, I'm kind of his caretaker.

01:02:22.000 Right, right.

01:02:23.000 And so then feel guilt about the relief.

01:02:26.000 You know, you know, I don't want to feel relieved that someone that I'm that I've known my whole life is gone.

01:02:31.000 And then now trying to mourn that.

01:02:33.000 You know, it's very, very complicated.

01:02:36.000 It's real hard when someone has dementia or Alzheimer's or anything along those lines.

01:02:41.000 The patience that these people have to work with dementia and those kind of even an eating disorder is you know, you can't really communicate it to the person when they have this body dysmorphia or anything.

01:02:52.000 Like it's something as simple as that.

01:02:54.000 Those people are saints that can work with anybody cognitively or like any kind of like dysphoria.

01:03:01.000 Like that's that's I mean, I those are heroes to me because I don't have the patience for it.

01:03:05.000 I'm very like direct.

01:03:06.000 I'm very like want to have a good time.

01:03:08.000 Like I'm not good at being like, how don't you see this?

01:03:10.000 Apparently there's some really promising treatments for dementia and Alzheimer's.

01:03:17.000 One of them, I wonder if it was dementia or Alzheimer's, was the supplement of supplementation with selenium.

01:03:25.000 See if they can find what that is.

01:03:26.000 That's one of those things that I glanced at quickly, and I was like, I better remember.

01:03:29.000 I'm probably going to say this on here, but there's a beautiful great woman named Lydia who I've been hanging out with, and her mom had some sort of dementia or something like this.

01:03:41.000 And their family had a real long debate about what the doctor recommended.

01:03:47.000 It was shock therapy.

01:03:49.000 And it worked.

01:03:51.000 Really?

01:03:52.000 It works for now, I guess.

01:03:53.000 Like, at least, like, they're all going, wait, now she's saying, didn't you just come over last week and we talked about that?

01:04:00.000 Like, she's having things.

01:04:01.000 Like, that's why I'm saying, I don't know if I should say it on here because there was a positive outcome of the shock therapy.

01:04:08.000 Yeah, it's funny because someone just sent me a link to a documentary on shock therapy that it was a negative thing.

01:04:15.000 Can you believe they're still doing shock therapy?

01:04:17.000 Right.

01:04:17.000 And I said, I don't know much about that.

01:04:20.000 Yeah.

01:04:20.000 You know, the only shock therapy I've ever heard was like you hear about the horror stories.

01:04:24.000 I don't know.

01:04:24.000 Right.

01:04:25.000 One flew over the cuckoo snow.

01:04:26.000 Those are lombotomies, though, right?

01:04:28.000 I think that was a shock therapy thing.

01:04:29.000 Oh, I thought those were lumbotomies.

01:04:31.000 Well, might be.

01:04:32.000 It might be.

01:04:33.000 We've all agreed.

01:04:34.000 Although, dude, they were doing them long after they were out.

01:04:36.000 They did them forever.

01:04:37.000 Yeah.

01:04:38.000 Because those guys wanted money.

01:04:40.000 I think it was like the year I was born or the year before I was born.

01:04:44.000 They stopped doing them.

01:04:45.000 I heard all these stories about there would be like people who would still, you know, on the fringes of it because they didn't want to shut down their practice.

01:04:54.000 So they'd be like, hey, you know, we'll still give it to you.

01:04:56.000 This is an abortion. 1.00

01:04:58.000 Yeah.

01:04:59.000 And they would be like, this authoritarian government's not even letting people have lumbotomies, but we'll still do it.

01:05:03.000 I'm the doctor that'll still do it.

01:05:05.000 It's lobotomy.

01:05:06.000 Is it?

01:05:06.000 Am I saying it?

01:05:07.000 I think it was shit.

01:05:09.000 Dude, you know what, Joe?

01:05:10.000 For a big part of my life, I thought it was Sarah Bell's palsy.

01:05:14.000 Hold up.

01:05:14.000 What did you just say?

01:05:15.000 The movie was shock therapy.

01:05:16.000 Yeah, it was.

01:05:16.000 Oh, it was.

01:05:18.000 And the... Sarah Bell's palsy? 1.00

01:05:20.000 Yes, we're watching this game or something, and the guy looked crazy.

01:05:23.000 And I go, looks like he's got Sarah Bell's palsy.

01:05:26.000 My friend, no one laughed.

01:05:28.000 No one laughed.

01:05:29.000 Which is a good comedy note: is that if you say a thing wrong or it's a false premise or something, no one's on board with it.

01:05:34.000 But if you see it around comedians.

01:05:36.000 Well, I said around a bunch of people watching football.

01:05:37.000 I go, it looks like he's got Sarah Bell's palsy.

01:05:39.000 And everyone just looked at me.

01:05:40.000 And then my friend Katie's like, did you say Sarah Bell's?

01:05:43.000 And I was like, wasn't that what it is?

01:05:44.000 She's like, cerebral palsy. 0.97

01:05:46.000 And I was like, I don't know.

01:05:47.000 I've never seen the movie, so I don't know how it ended it.

01:05:50.000 Because they discovered at the end he had been lobotomized.

01:05:52.000 The big chief guy was lobotomized.

01:05:55.000 That's the plot of the movie.

01:05:56.000 The big boy, yeah.

01:05:57.000 Oh, so he was lobotomized, but was Jack Nicholson supposedly lobotomized as well?

01:06:02.000 They were just in a cuckoo house.

01:06:03.000 But at the end, shock therapy here.

01:06:06.000 They did shock therapy, but remember at the end, he was like totally docile.

01:06:06.000 Right.

01:06:10.000 Maybe they were letting you know he got lobotomized too.

01:06:13.000 Probably.

01:06:14.000 They did that forever.

01:06:15.000 When did they stop doing lobotomies?

01:06:17.000 Wasn't it like 67?

01:06:18.000 Please.

01:06:19.000 Lumbotomy.

01:06:20.000 Lumbotomies.

01:06:20.000 Well, they stopped doing lobotomies.

01:06:24.000 This is a thing I have.

01:06:26.000 What year was it?

01:06:28.000 I love to talk about plenty of things I know and don't know about.

01:06:31.000 It's fun.

01:06:32.000 The one doctor did almost all of them.

01:06:35.000 He did one-third of them.

01:06:35.000 Wow.

01:06:36.000 That's a lot.

01:06:38.000 How many did he do?

01:06:39.000 How rich was he?

01:06:41.000 What was his net worth?

01:06:41.000 I bet he had a nice breast.

01:06:43.000 I bet he had a huge break.

01:06:44.000 Yeah, one-third of his 3,500 lobotomies performed.

01:06:47.000 He was successful, and 490 resulted in fatalities.

01:06:51.000 He killed 40 people in their brain.

01:06:51.000 Wait, hold on.

01:06:54.000 Which ones were successful?

01:06:56.000 They're perfect.

01:06:57.000 Perfect at me.

01:06:58.000 Billy just drools.

01:06:59.000 Now he doesn't fuck the dog.

01:07:00.000 He's not annoying us with his undiagnosed autism.

01:07:06.000 Now he just sits there.

01:07:08.000 It's not successful.

01:07:09.000 Hey, he doesn't fuck the dog anymore.

01:07:11.000 It's a success.

01:07:12.000 That's the guy?

01:07:13.000 Oh, that fucking creepy looking psycho.

01:07:15.000 Oh, my God.

01:07:16.000 Jesus Christ, that's how they did it.

01:07:17.000 They went right through the fucking eyeball.

01:07:19.000 I thought they went through the nose.

01:07:20.000 No, they go through the nether one.

01:07:21.000 They could do both, probably.

01:07:23.000 I thought they always.

01:07:24.000 Oh, there's the nose.

01:07:25.000 That's the one I knew.

01:07:26.000 They do both ways through the nose, through the fucking eyeball, fucking god damn it. 0.55

01:07:31.000 And in the end, look, he's happy.

01:07:33.000 Oh, I thought he was going to be a little bit more.

01:07:33.000 Give me a thumbs up.

01:07:34.000 He was a mess.

01:07:35.000 I thought he was going, hell yeah.

01:07:36.000 I feel great.

01:07:37.000 Imagine if they just scrambled it a little.

01:07:40.000 So it's like you're just on ecstasy all day.

01:07:43.000 I love everybody.

01:07:43.000 Wee.

01:07:44.000 I will say the first time I did mushrooms, I was like, because my buddy's like, the cool thing about mushrooms is that you don't want, it's not like cocaine or E or anything.

01:07:53.000 You're not going to become like addicted to mushrooms.

01:07:55.000 You're going to want to do mushrooms every day.

01:07:57.000 And then the second I did mushrooms, I was sitting in the chair and I was like, you guys were wrong.

01:08:01.000 And they're like, what?

01:08:01.000 I go, I just want to feel like this all the time.

01:08:03.000 Like, you lost your mind.

01:08:04.000 Like, this is the right state of being for me.

01:08:07.000 Like, it's the best.

01:08:09.000 It should be legal.

01:08:10.000 It's the best drug.

01:08:11.000 It's better at making people better people than anything.

01:08:14.000 Yes.

01:08:15.000 All I wanted to do, and still since then, is like, let's just talk and connect and let's find a way.

01:08:22.000 Let's be nice.

01:08:22.000 Yeah, let's be good.

01:08:23.000 Let's be nice to each other.

01:08:24.000 Nobel Prize for the...

01:08:26.000 Oh, wow!

01:08:27.000 Not the same doctor, but a different doctor.

01:08:29.000 Oh, okay.

01:08:30.000 Wait, Nobel Prize.

01:08:31.000 That'd make people go ahead and get it, right?

01:08:33.000 So they started getting him in 35, and then in 49, Dr. Moniz won the Nobel Prize for it.

01:08:39.000 And so Dr. Freeman was the guy who did one-third of them.

01:08:42.000 Yeah, he made it a 10-minute procedure.

01:08:43.000 Nice.

01:08:44.000 In and out.

01:08:44.000 Nice.

01:08:45.000 That's cool.

01:08:46.000 You got an appointment at noon.

01:08:46.000 Come in.

01:08:48.000 Come in at 11.

01:08:49.000 I'll be drooling in the parking lot at 11.35.

01:08:53.000 It's like a chiropractor.

01:08:54.000 We'll get the fast dude. 0.98

01:08:54.000 Just come in. 0.98

01:08:56.000 You'll be at Chipotle in no time.

01:08:58.000 I keep reading stories about people that get paralyzed forever because of chiropractors.

01:09:02.000 Oh, really?

01:09:02.000 There's been a ton of those stories.

01:09:03.000 Do you ever go to them?

01:09:04.000 Are you a body guy?

01:09:04.000 You're a fire.

01:09:06.000 No, I don't go to them anymore.

01:09:07.000 I went to them back in the day before I read up on how chiropractors learn.

01:09:11.000 You know, when they say, I'm a doctor, they don't go to medical school for three seconds.

01:09:16.000 That's why I hate all those arguments of authority.

01:09:18.000 You're not a scientist.

01:09:19.000 You're not a...

01:09:20.000 It's like, well, neither are they, kind of.

01:09:21.000 Well, it's...

01:09:22.000 But like, something was invented by a magnetic healer who was a kook, who learned about it in a seance. 0.96

01:09:29.000 He was a complete kook.

01:09:30.000 And then he was killed by his son, who was a con man.

01:09:33.000 His son ran him over with a car, and then his son took over the business.

01:09:39.000 And then it got grandfathered in.

01:09:40.000 And he wanted no BLPs.

01:09:42.000 But it got grandfathered in.

01:09:44.000 But here's the thing.

01:09:45.000 Manipulating the body in a positive way, like adjusting you, has some benefits.

01:09:51.000 Deep tissue massage has a lot of benefits, like manipulating tissue.

01:09:55.000 I get a trigger point massage.

01:09:57.000 It's really painful, but it's very effective.

01:10:00.000 There's real benefits to it.

01:10:01.000 So there's things that chiropractors do that do have like a real beneficial effect on your body being able to recover.

01:10:08.000 But the claims, at least in the beginning, are nuts.

01:10:12.000 The initial claims, it's going to cure leukemia or thyroid cancer.

01:10:17.000 I'm just going to adjust your back.

01:10:18.000 It's a C4, C5, disconnection.

01:10:20.000 I'll pop.

01:10:21.000 And then they grab you and yank your neck.

01:10:23.000 And sometimes people have fucking hemorrhages from these things because they violently yank your neck and a blood vessel pops and you have a fucking stroke.

01:10:23.000 That's so scary.

01:10:30.000 And that's not happened just once.

01:10:33.000 It's happened a bunch of times.

01:10:34.000 I grew up playing video games too and watching all these action movies, you know, and I thought that just twisting a guy's head.

01:10:40.000 Like, you know, like you kill him.

01:10:41.000 You think that's all it took, you know?

01:10:43.000 Like, I snuck up behind that guy in the video game and just that's all I did.

01:10:46.000 Meanwhile, a chiropractor is just a bad thing.

01:10:47.000 You do it all day.

01:10:49.000 You ever seen him do it to babies?

01:10:51.000 Oh, my God.

01:10:51.000 No.

01:10:52.000 It's so crazy.

01:10:53.000 People that are like full-on nuts have their babies brought to a chiropractor and the chiropractor is adjusting the baby's skull and moving the baby.

01:11:01.000 Yo! 1.00

01:11:02.000 Your parental ideas of like, they're all scrapped.

01:11:06.000 Like you're supposed to keep it safe.

01:11:07.000 The idea of handing into a chiropractor.

01:11:09.000 They believe it.

01:11:10.000 They believe it.

01:11:11.000 And so they think they're doing a good thing.

01:11:13.000 Jamie, am I allowed to ask Jamie to bring things up?

01:11:15.000 Yeah, fuck you.

01:11:16.000 Jamie, can you bring up some dog chiropractors?

01:11:20.000 I've seen it.

01:11:20.000 Yeah.

01:11:20.000 Oh, I've seen this.

01:11:21.000 And the dogs look at the chiropractor like, what'd you just do?

01:11:23.000 But also, I do feel a little bit better.

01:11:25.000 The dog's so sweet about it.

01:11:27.000 Like, I think I'm good, actually.

01:11:29.000 You got to get the right dog.

01:11:30.000 A lot of pit bulls because they're all strong and shit.

01:11:32.000 And so, like, they'll just adjust it.

01:11:33.000 Yeah.

01:11:34.000 I've seen like montages of it, and it's pretty adorable.

01:11:38.000 What is he going to do to this dog's neck?

01:11:39.000 Please don't.

01:11:40.000 I already did it.

01:11:41.000 I'll start it over.

01:11:42.000 Oh, no, no.

01:11:43.000 And look at the dog looking up at him.

01:11:44.000 I don't think you need to do that to that dog.

01:11:46.000 I don't think that's necessary.

01:11:48.000 Look at the way he looks at him.

01:11:48.000 Watch this.

01:11:50.000 Like, what studies are they showing where this is all good?

01:11:50.000 But here's the thing.

01:11:54.000 That's a Belgian Malamoir, bro.

01:11:55.000 I can't hear it, but it goes face.

01:11:57.000 I don't want to hear it.

01:12:00.000 I don't know if that does anything.

01:12:03.000 I don't know if that's good.

01:12:04.000 I think if you got your dog a massage, it would be really good for them.

01:12:07.000 But I think all that snapping of the popping, like, are you loosening it up and making it more mobile?

01:12:12.000 Well, if that's the case, you can do that with spinal decompression and massage.

01:12:17.000 I have this thing.

01:12:18.000 I've been doing this with my friends' dogs, and they've been loving it.

01:12:20.000 I put this thing on my neck.

01:12:21.000 I'm like, don't do that.

01:12:22.000 You're going to get bitches. 1.00

01:12:23.000 I put this thing on my head.

01:12:25.000 It goes underneath my chin.

01:12:26.000 It's got a rope.

01:12:27.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:28.000 A hoop that hangs on my chin-up bar.

01:12:30.000 And I just.

01:12:31.000 I've seen them advertise it because you use it.

01:12:33.000 Oh, there you go.

01:12:35.000 Look at this.

01:12:36.000 He's giving his dog a back crack.

01:12:39.000 Oh, bro.

01:12:40.000 That's the camel's clutch, dude.

01:12:41.000 Look at that.

01:12:42.000 That dog is sweet.

01:12:43.000 He's letting you do your nonsense.

01:12:44.000 Dude, this guy.

01:12:45.000 Dogs just love getting rubbed. 0.99

01:12:47.000 Yeah, they love it.

01:12:47.000 That's all it is, yeah.

01:12:48.000 That's all petting is kind of a massage, you know?

01:12:50.000 That's what they love.

01:12:51.000 They love massages.

01:12:52.000 They don't have to pretend they don't.

01:12:53.000 You love massages, too.

01:12:54.000 Everybody does.

01:12:55.000 We don't have to ask them about that.

01:12:56.000 They like it.

01:12:56.000 If we were like dogs, everybody would just lie down on the floor and let people rub them.

01:12:59.000 Yeah, it'd be fine.

01:13:00.000 You come over to my house, dude.

01:13:01.000 Marshall will lie down immediately and let you rub him.

01:13:03.000 That's my favorite thing about dogs.

01:13:05.000 He assumes you want to rub his belly.

01:13:06.000 Yeah, dogs don't go, this guy's probably a...

01:13:08.000 Who do you vote for?

01:13:10.000 No, dog...

01:13:11.000 Dogs aren't ever worried.

01:13:12.000 My dog would go up to like a homeless.

01:13:14.000 They don't care.

01:13:15.000 What's up, homeless guy?

01:13:16.000 Yeah, he loves them.

01:13:17.000 Yeah, they're the best.

01:13:19.000 We don't deserve them.

01:13:20.000 But I don't think they should go to a chiropractor.

01:13:23.000 But people that think that you should bring your dog, it's because they believe in the chiropractors.

01:13:27.000 There's a great article called Chiropractors are bullshit.

01:13:31.000 Pull that article up.

01:13:33.000 The lady who wrote it was on the podcast, and I read the article, and then I had her explain it to me.

01:13:37.000 Yeah.

01:13:38.000 It was back in L.A.

01:13:39.000 And I was like, oh, this is a nutty thing.

01:13:41.000 I thought they were doctors.

01:13:43.000 I thought they were actual doctors.

01:13:44.000 I went to one of those ones.

01:13:45.000 It's called The Joint.

01:13:46.000 And, you know, you can just like, you can just walk in and they'll do it.

01:13:49.000 And this is.

01:13:50.000 I think a lot of it for me was placebo.

01:13:52.000 Like, I just thought, like, oh, they told me this is good for me, so I'm doing it.

01:13:55.000 You know, I wasn't having pain or anything.

01:13:57.000 Eve Detremont is the lady who was on the podcast that wrote this article.

01:14:01.000 But it's crazy.

01:14:03.000 I like the title.

01:14:04.000 It's a crazy.

01:14:04.000 It's very direct.

01:14:05.000 When you read the story of how it was invented, you're like, this is nuts.

01:14:09.000 Because it's one of those things that's just grandfathered in.

01:14:12.000 And if you're allowed to be doctor, like, we should be doctors of comedy.

01:14:15.000 Wouldn't you like to be Dr. Jeff?

01:14:16.000 Jeff MD, dude.

01:14:17.000 Yeah, I'm.

01:14:18.000 What would it be?

01:14:18.000 Oh, wait, not MD.

01:14:19.000 But you're giving people laughter, which is the best medicine.

01:14:22.000 Sure.

01:14:23.000 So I think we should get doctors of comedy.

01:14:25.000 Maybe we should do that at the mothership.

01:14:27.000 Just start handing out doctorates of comedy.

01:14:29.000 That's how you get past, kind of.

01:14:31.000 You headline, you do your first theater tour.

01:14:33.000 I'll give you a doctorate.

01:14:34.000 I worked under Ron White, and then I got my.

01:14:36.000 I mentored under Ron White.

01:14:39.000 Exactly.

01:14:40.000 Ron White was patient zero here because Ron moved out here before the pandemic.

01:14:44.000 Really?

01:14:45.000 Yeah, he's the reason why I decided to move out here.

01:14:47.000 Because, you know, Ron and I have been real close forever.

01:14:51.000 And knowing him from the comedy store, he was always one of the coolest guys to hang out with.

01:14:54.000 He's the best dude.

01:14:55.000 And so we were hanging out in the back bar and he was telling me he's moving to Texas.

01:14:55.000 He's the best.

01:14:59.000 I go, what?

01:15:00.000 What are you doing?

01:15:01.000 You're here.

01:15:02.000 Don't go.

01:15:03.000 This is nuts.

01:15:04.000 He's like, oh, it's the best.

01:15:05.000 He goes, I don't keep my house out here in Beverly Hills, but this fucking place is the food's the best.

01:15:10.000 The people are nice.

01:15:12.000 If I want to fly, I'm in the middle.

01:15:14.000 It's three hours here, three hours.

01:15:16.000 And I was like, damn, he's got a good point.

01:15:17.000 So when the shit started getting weird in LA and they were burning cop cars on the freeway, that's when daddy was like, I got to get out of here.

01:15:25.000 Yeah, you know, because my kids are little, you know, 10 and 12 at the time, the little ones.

01:15:31.000 And I was like, this is dangerous.

01:15:33.000 And we all agreed, like, it just doesn't feel right.

01:15:35.000 I don't feel like they're going to open this up.

01:15:37.000 I think this is bullshit.

01:15:38.000 Let's get the fuck out of here. 0.85

01:15:39.000 It's not like you're an actor.

01:15:41.000 Exactly.

01:15:41.000 Right.

01:15:41.000 Exactly.

01:15:42.000 I was like, you acted, but you weren't an actor.

01:15:44.000 I wasn't interested in doing it anymore.

01:15:46.000 And we were flying a lot of the guests out anyway.

01:15:50.000 And I was like, I'll figure it out.

01:15:52.000 I'll do Zoom calls.

01:15:53.000 I don't want to do this anymore.

01:15:54.000 I don't want to live here.

01:15:54.000 I want to live my life.

01:15:56.000 I'd be happy making less money and doing it somewhere else.

01:16:00.000 And maybe it's not as good.

01:16:01.000 Have you thought about making other motherships?

01:16:04.000 We did.

01:16:04.000 We have.

01:16:05.000 We've talked about it.

01:16:06.000 Where?

01:16:06.000 We talked about New York.

01:16:07.000 We've talked about Vegas.

01:16:09.000 What about Florida?

01:16:10.000 We've talked.

01:16:11.000 Here's the thing.

01:16:13.000 To do it.

01:16:14.000 I mean, this is just like based on what we've done in Austin, right?

01:16:17.000 What we did in Austin is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity where we hit every green light.

01:16:22.000 Every green light along the way, we got in the right spot.

01:16:26.000 So like the only way this club happens, first of all, is I'm friends with Adam Egot, and I've been friends with Adam Egot from back when he was running the improv in Tempe.

01:16:39.000 So that's when I knew him.

01:16:40.000 I knew him from back then.

01:16:41.000 And then he came to California and he started working at the comedy store when I had already been banned.

01:16:47.000 So I had been banned and I had gone on my seven-year exodus.

01:16:50.000 And he came to meet me at the improv.

01:16:52.000 They showed you, by the way.

01:16:54.000 What?

01:16:54.000 Comedy stored show.

01:16:55.000 They really showed you.

01:16:57.000 So he came to meet me at the improv.

01:16:58.000 He's like, dude, come back.

01:17:01.000 I'm there now.

01:17:02.000 I'm the talent coordinator.

01:17:03.000 And I thought about it.

01:17:04.000 And then I wound up coming back because of Ari.

01:17:07.000 Because, you know, Ari Shafir is one of my closest friends.

01:17:10.000 And he was filming his special there.

01:17:12.000 And I had known Ari since he was a doorman.

01:17:15.000 I knew him when he was a doorman there.

01:17:17.000 And now he's filming a special.

01:17:19.000 I'm like, I don't give a fuck.

01:17:20.000 I have to be there.

01:17:21.000 I have to be there for him.

01:17:23.000 And I went there a day before just so I could relax because it was weird because I hadn't been there in seven years.

01:17:29.000 And, you know, it was super friendly, hugged everybody.

01:17:32.000 It was great.

01:17:34.000 And then I saw Ari and Ari killed.

01:17:37.000 And the special was awesome.

01:17:39.000 And it was just such a, it was such a happy moment to see him like accomplish this thing, going from being a doorman to having your own Comedy Central special while he's also doing a show on Comedy Central.

01:17:52.000 This is what he's doing.

01:17:53.000 This is not happening.

01:17:54.000 Yeah, I was on that.

01:17:55.000 So it was like, I had to come back.

01:17:57.000 So that was 2014.

01:18:01.000 And becoming really good friends with Adam and knowing him from the improv, like knowing him from back in the day and then becoming friends with him when he was the Cal Coordinator.

01:18:08.000 We had talked about like what are the problems with running a club?

01:18:12.000 Like what is the problems with like people telling you, oh, you have to have more of this on your show or more that on your show or you're problematic and people getting mad about this, mad about that.

01:18:21.000 I'm like, it's got to be a meritocracy.

01:18:23.000 As much as that bothers some people, the people that bothers, they're never good.

01:18:28.000 David Tell's never complaining about diversity.

01:18:30.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:18:31.000 It's like the people that are complaining, generally they're mediocre at best.

01:18:36.000 And he was like, you're right.

01:18:37.000 I go, but you can't give into them because there's a lot of them.

01:18:40.000 And they yell and they make it seem like it's a big deal.

01:18:43.000 But the big deals laughs, doing good comedy, having an original idea, being funny.

01:18:50.000 Here's the world through my eyes.

01:18:51.000 This is how I've crafted it for you.

01:18:53.000 That's all it is.

01:18:55.000 Everything else is a fucking distraction.

01:18:57.000 And we both agreed on that.

01:18:58.000 And so when the comedy store shut down and then I moved out here, there was a long time where I was like, I don't know what to do.

01:19:06.000 Like, do I stop doing comedy now and just do this podcast?

01:19:10.000 Like, no one's doing comedy.

01:19:11.000 It was months and months of no comedy.

01:19:13.000 And then Dave and I started doing shows at Stubbs.

01:19:16.000 So Dave was like, I want to do a show at Stubbs.

01:19:19.000 Let's do like a residency there. 0.82

01:19:21.000 I'm like, fuck yeah, let's do it.

01:19:22.000 So he and I did like a, we had done a ton of shows, a bunch of arena shows before the pandemic together.

01:19:27.000 And so the Stubbs thing came along and I was like, okay, yeah, let's just do this.

01:19:31.000 All right, we're doing this now.

01:19:32.000 And I guess we're doing comedy again.

01:19:34.000 And then we started doing comedy at the Vulcan.

01:19:37.000 And the Vulcan is indoor and it's loud and it's rowdy and it was naughty.

01:19:42.000 Like it was crazy.

01:19:44.000 You're doing a November 2020 indoor show.

01:19:47.000 Punk rock.

01:19:48.000 And so when that was happening, then everybody started moving here.

01:19:52.000 Then everything got weird.

01:19:53.000 And I was like, whoa, we got like Tom Segura moved here.

01:19:56.000 Duncan Trussell moved here.

01:19:57.000 Tony Hinchcliffe moved here.

01:19:59.000 Brian Simpson moved here.

01:20:00.000 I was like, whoa, we got a crew here.

01:20:02.000 Derek Poston moved here.

01:20:04.000 Asana Maud moved here.

01:20:05.000 I'm like, we got a real crew here.

01:20:08.000 And then it just kept escalating.

01:20:09.000 Tim Dylan came.

01:20:10.000 It was like over and over again.

01:20:11.000 Joe DeRosa came.

01:20:12.000 Shane Gillis came.

01:20:14.000 And so while all this was happening, where all these guys were at least talking about moving there, they're like, it feels better here.

01:20:21.000 Like the scene feels more alive because LA was still shut down.

01:20:26.000 And so then Ron White basically like grabbed me by the shoulders one night after he hadn't done stand-up in like six months.

01:20:33.000 And he grabs me and goes, whatever the fuck we have to do, we're going to keep doing this.

01:20:37.000 You got to open up a club.

01:20:38.000 I'm like, we're going to open up a club.

01:20:39.000 Let's go.

01:20:40.000 We'll get a club. 0.84

01:20:41.000 And then that's how it all started.

01:20:43.000 But we had to hit every light.

01:20:45.000 Like Adam had to be out of a job.

01:20:46.000 All the people that we got from the comedy store that were great, we brought over a bunch of people.

01:20:50.000 They all had to be out of a job.

01:20:52.000 So the comedy store had to be closed.

01:20:53.000 Otherwise, why would you leave the comedy store?

01:20:54.000 It's the greatest place on earth.

01:20:56.000 So then it was like everything else had to be closed down.

01:20:59.000 So the comics knew that they could do stand-up in Texas.

01:21:01.000 And so like, well, let's just go to Texas.

01:21:03.000 And it just, people decided, I like doing stand-up more than I like living in LA.

01:21:09.000 And then once they came out here, they realized, I think I like it out here better.

01:21:09.000 Yeah.

01:21:12.000 It is.

01:21:13.000 It's amazing what we've got.

01:21:14.000 Also, my favorite thing about the scene here is the mothership helps everything around as well.

01:21:22.000 So I can't get over every time that I've been here how inviting, how cool all the young comics are.

01:21:31.000 All these guys who would chew off their arm to get a spot at your club are here for it.

01:21:38.000 And they're here at these other places.

01:21:40.000 They're doing all these other things because they believe in what the mothership's doing.

01:21:44.000 And there's all this other stuff.

01:21:45.000 So it has the most buzz as far, not buzz, that's a stupid word.

01:21:50.000 It has a feeling.

01:21:51.000 It has like this vibe.

01:21:52.000 It has this aura.

01:21:53.000 Whereas like that used to be in New York and that used to be in LA and I don't feel it in those places anymore.

01:21:58.000 I'm actually lucky that I can go do the cellar and I can go do this dand and I can do those things.

01:22:02.000 I can go to the comedy store.

01:22:03.000 I go to the improv.

01:22:04.000 I'm at a place where they'll have me.

01:22:06.000 But there's not like a bunch of young guys doing small shows and excited at the idea of even going over to the store after their spots.

01:22:13.000 Your club has that.

01:22:14.000 Well, there's a couple things it has an advantage of, right?

01:22:17.000 One is Kill Tony.

01:22:18.000 That's the big advantage.

01:22:19.000 The big advantage of there's a show that's Monday night that is the biggest live comedy show on planet Earth and you might be able to get on it.

01:22:27.000 And if you've got a tight minute and you could fucking kill, they're going to ask you back.

01:22:31.000 And if you've got another tight minute, oh my God, you might have a fucking career.

01:22:35.000 Exactly.

01:22:35.000 You might have a fucking career.

01:22:37.000 And that's happened time and time again.

01:22:40.000 Like Cam Patterson is on SNL right now.

01:22:42.000 Yes, sir.

01:22:42.000 And that came straight out of Kill Tony.

01:22:44.000 100%.

01:22:45.000 And, you know, and Cam is super fucking talented, but so is Hans Kim.

01:22:49.000 So is a lot of William Montgomery.

01:22:51.000 There's a lot of people coming out of there that do great and they have a real career now.

01:22:55.000 Ari Maddie has a real career now. 1.00

01:22:58.000 It's amazing.

01:22:59.000 Casey Rocket, it's an amazing resource.

01:23:02.000 100%.

01:23:02.000 So that's the big one, is that there's a real pathway.

01:23:05.000 And then there's also two nights of open mic night, two nights.

01:23:08.000 So we make sure we have plenty of open mic night time.

01:23:11.000 You get to do an open mic night at the best club in the world.

01:23:14.000 And then on top of that, it's like the club is the only club that I know of that was designed not to make money.

01:23:22.000 All I wanted to do is break even.

01:23:24.000 I'm like, I just don't want to lose any money.

01:23:26.000 You know, because it's so much money to make a club and build it in the first place.

01:23:30.000 You have to buy a building.

01:23:31.000 You have to hire all these people to fix it.

01:23:33.000 And turn, it's a lot of money invested.

01:23:35.000 I'm like, I just want to lose a lot of money.

01:23:36.000 Which is why a lot of owners have terrible reputations because they do all these corner cutting or they do like the fuck you all.

01:23:43.000 Yeah, but they're also desperate in a way.

01:23:45.000 Like these guys, they'll, you know, I like club owners, but there's a lot of crazy club owners.

01:23:51.000 And they feel that pressure of like, I got to keep this alive.

01:23:54.000 I don't want to keep losing money.

01:23:55.000 I used to tell comics, be nice to club owners because you don't want to be one.

01:23:59.000 You do not want to be a good one.

01:23:59.000 It's a great one.

01:24:00.000 And then I went and became one.

01:24:02.000 But you're doing it honorably.

01:24:04.000 I'm lucky that I have other ways of making a living, right?

01:24:08.000 Most club owners, they're a club owner by definition.

01:24:12.000 That's what they do for a job.

01:24:13.000 This is not what I do for a job.

01:24:14.000 This is just, I do this for literally to make a comedy environment.

01:24:18.000 So the club is set up so the comedians get most of the money because that's how it should be.

01:24:23.000 That's great.

01:24:24.000 People aren't coming to see drinks.

01:24:26.000 Right.

01:24:28.000 They're coming to see a guy do his art, a woman do her art on stage.

01:24:32.000 So that person should get most of the money.

01:24:35.000 And that's how it should be.

01:24:36.000 And it should be that way because it's the right way to do it and because it builds the art form.

01:24:42.000 You have more people making money so they don't have to leave as much.

01:24:45.000 They don't have to go out of town as much.

01:24:47.000 They can stay in town and develop and work on new stuff.

01:24:50.000 And there's all these satellite rooms.

01:24:52.000 There's the Sunset Strip that's right down the street from us.

01:24:55.000 You could walk there in three minutes.

01:24:56.000 That's Red Band's Club.

01:24:58.000 It's killing.

01:24:59.000 Creaking the Keg is an awesome spot.

01:25:00.000 That's where Gillis filmed his first YouTube special.

01:25:03.000 He filmed it.

01:25:04.000 I like it too.

01:25:05.000 It's amazing.

01:25:05.000 It's a great club.

01:25:06.000 That's another club we did a lot during the pandemic.

01:25:09.000 And then you've got all these other clubs.

01:25:11.000 Cap City's a great fucking club.

01:25:13.000 That's just 20 minutes away.

01:25:15.000 There's a bunch of these satellite rooms all around this place that are killing it right now.

01:25:20.000 Because comedy is a fun thing to do.

01:25:23.000 People love it.

01:25:24.000 You know, and we can do it in a way where it's not connected to fucking Hollywood.

01:25:29.000 It's not connected to movies.

01:25:31.000 It's not connected to TV.

01:25:33.000 It's an art form in and of itself that had been prostituted out for so long that people thought like the golden goose was be a late night talk show host.

01:25:43.000 That was the golden goose, a job that I wouldn't.

01:25:45.000 There's no fucking way.

01:25:47.000 If they doubled my money, I'd be like, I'm not doing that.

01:25:49.000 I can't do it.

01:25:50.000 It's not me.

01:25:51.000 Right.

01:25:51.000 And it's also not really stand-up.

01:25:54.000 So many times, like, people are like, so do you want to like, is it, are you doing this because of like, you want to be a movie star?

01:25:59.000 I was like, no, I'm doing it because I love stand-up comedy.

01:26:02.000 Yeah.

01:26:02.000 I just watched the starting five of it's called starting five on Netflix, but they follow NBA players.

01:26:08.000 And the annoying part is like their wives and girlfriends. 0.72

01:26:10.000 I think that's the annoying part.

01:26:11.000 Like I want to hear them talk about basketball, like the thing they love.

01:26:15.000 Right, right.

01:26:15.000 That inspires me because I look at the way I pursue comedy, the way they pursue their basketball, you know, like their career.

01:26:22.000 So anyways, but what I was inspired by was like Kevin Durant, who I thought I hated my whole life, was awesome.

01:26:28.000 He just wants to play basketball.

01:26:29.000 Like that's all it is for him.

01:26:31.000 He's like, yeah, I just want to go out there and hoop.

01:26:33.000 And he keeps going to that thing of like, man, I don't want to have these arguments in barbershops about the greatest ever or any of those things.

01:26:40.000 He makes money, but it's not about the money for him.

01:26:42.000 And it's not about the chicks.

01:26:44.000 Those are all symptoms of what he pursues.

01:26:47.000 And I love that because I'm like, yeah, I just love the joke part.

01:26:50.000 I love that I can write a bit and then that night try it and people love it or they go, what an interesting idea, or that's funny, or that's naughty.

01:27:00.000 I've never thought of it like that.

01:27:02.000 You know, when you're campaigning on a political trail or whatever, like when you go to like the Trump rally or one of, I don't know what Kamala Harris called her thing, but those aren't undecided voters.

01:27:14.000 Those are people who are there because they're already in.

01:27:16.000 You're not even talking to anyone who's considering voting for anyone else when you go to a thing like that.

01:27:21.000 But with stand-up comedy, when they're in that audience, they're just looking at you and going, Hey, bro, bring me some jokes.

01:27:27.000 Yeah.

01:27:28.000 And so I can now do jokes about what I think and what I believe.

01:27:32.000 And the crowd will listen to me and decide if I'm not funny or funny.

01:27:37.000 But you're getting into their ear.

01:27:39.000 You're getting into them going, I've never thought of it like that.

01:27:42.000 That guy was making some pretty good jokes up there about a subject that I thought I wouldn't hear.

01:27:48.000 You know, like, it's just like, I think comedy is such a gift that way.

01:27:50.000 But I was like, I was like, I think I'm like Kevin Durant.

01:27:53.000 I like the girls and I like the money and I like all I love all that stuff.

01:27:56.000 But for me, I did a spot here.

01:27:59.000 I can't remember what it was.

01:28:00.000 And they were like, dude, we can't thank you enough for coming.

01:28:02.000 And I was like, what are you talking about?

01:28:04.000 Like, I get up on any fucking stage.

01:28:06.000 And you try to slide me money.

01:28:07.000 I go, give it to the other guys.

01:28:08.000 Like, I came to do this because I was happy you have me on.

01:28:11.000 Like, I just couldn't.

01:28:12.000 That's a great attitude.

01:28:13.000 Yeah, it's so much better to do it.

01:28:14.000 It's so much better to tell jokes.

01:28:16.000 I don't need to be famous.

01:28:19.000 That would be a good symptom.

01:28:20.000 That'd be a great symptom of it.

01:28:22.000 It also comes with its own problems.

01:28:24.000 You know, all those other stuff.

01:28:25.000 Yeah, sure.

01:28:26.000 All the other stuff.

01:28:27.000 But that's the best attitude: just love what you do.

01:28:30.000 Love what you do.

01:28:31.000 And all the success comes because of it.

01:28:34.000 But the moment you start thinking about the success only and then making decisions based only on getting and attaining more success instead of thinking about the thing.

01:28:42.000 Yeah.

01:28:43.000 And that's what they do.

01:28:43.000 They seduce you.

01:28:44.000 They go, want to be in this movie.

01:28:46.000 Wanna be the hyenas.

01:28:47.000 Like you were saying.

01:28:49.000 But I don't want to be an actor.

01:28:51.000 And thank you for the opportunity.

01:28:53.000 And I love that you believe you can make some money off me by putting me in that.

01:28:56.000 But for me, walking my ass into a place that has a stage and a microphone and being able to be naughty and say anything I'd like and make jokes is so exciting to me.

01:29:07.000 If they put a billion dollars in my bank account tomorrow, I'll still go do my spot tonight at the mothership in Fat Man.

01:29:12.000 And if tomorrow they said, Jeff, you make zero dollars doing this, you might want to find a day job.

01:29:16.000 I'll go, okay, but I'm still doing my spot, right?

01:29:18.000 Like, I'm still going to do it.

01:29:19.000 No matter what.

01:29:21.000 Yeah, I just love it.

01:29:22.000 Yeah, I would do it forever.

01:29:23.000 It's the most fun art form.

01:29:25.000 Yeah.

01:29:25.000 You know, and the fact that we're fortunate enough to be able to do it and make money doing it is incredible.

01:29:30.000 You should be happy.

01:29:31.000 Yeah.

01:29:32.000 If you're fucking complaining, you're missing out.

01:29:34.000 Oh, dude.

01:29:35.000 I won't say this comic's name because, you know, I just don't want any trouble with this guy.

01:29:40.000 But I remember I was at a festival and I'm more criticizing his attitude on that night.

01:29:47.000 We're in the green room and they were like, so excited to have him because he's a very funny guy and very talented.

01:29:52.000 And they said, they go, so how much time do you want to do?

01:29:55.000 He was like, how much time am I contracted to do?

01:29:59.000 And they were like, oh, well, you know, your book's for 45 minutes, but I was just letting you know you're at the end of the show and everyone's here to see you.

01:30:05.000 So just do whatever you want.

01:30:06.000 He goes, then I'm doing the 45 minutes.

01:30:09.000 And I remember thinking, the fuck is wrong with you?

01:30:13.000 Like, they're happy you're here.

01:30:16.000 Everyone is excited.

01:30:17.000 Yeah, just if you tell me that, bro, I'm on stage for two hours.

01:30:22.000 45 minutes good, but I'm going to stay up there, you know, because I like fucking up there.

01:30:26.000 You have fun.

01:30:27.000 Boo.

01:30:28.000 It's not, you're not pouring concrete, dude.

01:30:31.000 Like, you get to go tell jokes to these people.

01:30:33.000 Like, what an exciting job you have.

01:30:35.000 That's exciting.

01:30:36.000 I think where that comes from is like in the beginning, it's like really hard.

01:30:41.000 It's hard to do.

01:30:42.000 It's hard to get paid.

01:30:44.000 It's hard.

01:30:45.000 And then you build up a resentment to the point where even after you make it, you take it for granted.

01:30:51.000 And now you think, what do I have to do?

01:30:54.000 45 minutes, and that's what I'm doing.

01:30:55.000 Crazy there.

01:30:56.000 Yeah, you're like, instead of like, wow, I made it.

01:30:58.000 I could actually, I could actually get paid to go do comedy now.

01:31:02.000 I'll get 45 minutes, not important.

01:31:04.000 Okay, I'll go fuck around, have some fun.

01:31:06.000 That's exactly like that's so.

01:31:08.000 I've worked at Hollywood Video.

01:31:10.000 I've worked at any coffee shop that was, like, I've had over like 40 different coffee jobs because I just couldn't keep a job.

01:31:16.000 Like, I was always living somewhere different or like pursuing comedy so aggressively that like I just needed a job.

01:31:21.000 So I was good at getting the job and then I would fuck off or do something stupid and I'd get like let go or I'd move and just ghost that job.

01:31:28.000 You know, I've had all these jobs.

01:31:30.000 But whether it was Hollywood Video or Rock Bottom Brewery or whether it was any of these million coffee shops I worked at, I was always the fun guy at the job that made friends with everyone and goofed off because it's more fun to have a good attitude at work and like the job than it is to hate the job.

01:31:47.000 Right.

01:31:48.000 Because not because the job was great, but because it's going to be a better experience here if I like it, if I at least trick myself into liking it.

01:31:56.000 There's nothing, it wasn't my dream to put movies in alphabetical order with dyslexia in Hollywood video, but I want to enjoy my job.

01:32:05.000 Like that was more fun to like be happy to be there.

01:32:08.000 So now we get to do comedy, which is the dream, and you have that attitude.

01:32:13.000 Like I just can't get my mind around that.

01:32:15.000 Well, there's some people that think they have to be miserable to be good.

01:32:18.000 There's a weird thing that I think some artists feel like they have to kind of suffer in order to be funny.

01:32:26.000 Like they have to be upset.

01:32:28.000 They have to be angry.

01:32:29.000 I used to think that when I was really young and dumb, I was thinking that maybe like I should stop meditating because if I meditate and achieve any kind of enlightenment, I won't think things are so annoying anymore that I could shit on them on stage, which is like a big part of my act.

01:32:48.000 Yeah, you didn't want to be happy because you would find.

01:32:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:52.000 But that was me at 21 or whatever.

01:32:54.000 Yes.

01:32:54.000 Well, Jerry Seinfeld, who's one of my favorites ever, despite any of his political beliefs or any of those things, like I really, really respect every time Jerry Seinfeld talks on podcasts or interviews or whatever, because he's like Buddha of comedy, like the way he talks about work ethic and the way he talks about joke writing, the way he's very disciplined.

01:33:12.000 He's very good.

01:33:12.000 So I always hang on everything Jerry says in those things.

01:33:15.000 I think he's the best.

01:33:16.000 Look up anytime he's been interviewed.

01:33:18.000 But Jerry, although he's clean, right?

01:33:21.000 He's a clean comic.

01:33:22.000 And although he's a husband and a dad, and no matter what he's labeled as, he seems to be very at peace in his life and very successful and rich.

01:33:30.000 He does have this edge to him.

01:33:32.000 There still is like an irritability.

01:33:34.000 And I think that's probably what you were thinking at 21 of like, I need that.

01:33:38.000 I need to be.

01:33:40.000 But you could say.

01:33:40.000 Well, he's also smart and he's talking to morons all the time.

01:33:44.000 And that's how you get an edge like that.

01:33:46.000 Probably doesn't have like a tight crew of cool people that he could just chill with.

01:33:49.000 I agree.

01:33:50.000 You get alienated.

01:33:52.000 Smarter than kids.

01:33:53.000 Right.

01:33:54.000 But you also, you made a billion dollars from a sitcom you did in the 90s.

01:33:57.000 You never have to work again for a day in your fucking life.

01:33:59.000 You have a hundred Porsches.

01:34:01.000 You're just collecting Porsches.

01:34:02.000 You're bored as fuck.

01:34:03.000 And then morons want to say, you know what my favorite episode was?

01:34:06.000 Like, I don't fucking care.

01:34:08.000 I don't want to hear this anymore.

01:34:09.000 I'm sure you get that on the time.

01:34:11.000 Someone wants to tell you a story about a thing and you go, I don't know.

01:34:14.000 Well, I think I'm a little more tolerant than him.

01:34:16.000 Yeah.

01:34:17.000 But he's, I get it.

01:34:18.000 I get why he would be a little prickly.

01:34:20.000 Like, some of the questions are really fucking stupid.

01:34:22.000 Oh, for sure.

01:34:23.000 There was a big racism controversy about his show.

01:34:26.000 Comedians in cars drinking coffee.

01:34:28.000 Which is the way.

01:34:29.000 I'm surprised he wasn't.

01:34:30.000 He's not more vocal about that, but he did a great thing.

01:34:33.000 He was like, I don't care.

01:34:34.000 Speak the language of funny.

01:34:35.000 If you're funny, I don't care what you are, which is the right answer.

01:34:37.000 And a lot of people are like, oh, that sounds racist.

01:34:39.000 That's a great answer.

01:34:40.000 If that's racist, you're expecting something that you're not going to get, which you're expecting people to abandon meritocracy in the most meritocracy-based art form.

01:34:52.000 You have to have a specific response from people.

01:34:54.000 You have to get a laugh.

01:34:55.000 Yeah.

01:34:56.000 And you're creating it all yourself.

01:34:58.000 There's no talking.

01:34:59.000 It's just you.

01:35:00.000 That's it.

01:35:00.000 Yeah.

01:35:01.000 And so if it's comedians that you think are funny and they happen to be whatever, it's just who's funny.

01:35:08.000 Everything else is bullshit.

01:35:09.000 This idea of there's not enough women, there's not enough black people, there's not enough.

01:35:13.000 It's insane.

01:35:14.000 Stop.

01:35:14.000 Right.

01:35:15.000 Stop.

01:35:15.000 Yeah.

01:35:16.000 They'll do whatever there's a lot of people.

01:35:17.000 There's an interview that goes.

01:35:18.000 What do you say to the people who criticize that you don't have enough people of color or blah, blah, blah.

01:35:24.000 And he goes, I don't know.

01:35:26.000 I'm looking at your audience.

01:35:27.000 A lot of whiteies in here. 0.96

01:35:28.000 That's what he said.

01:35:29.000 Oh, it's the best because it's like, it's so true.

01:35:32.000 So true.

01:35:32.000 Look at your friend groups.

01:35:34.000 Look at your life.

01:35:35.000 Yeah, fuck off.

01:35:36.000 When you start running it through everyone's genitals and skin color, you could call every culture racist.

01:35:42.000 I went to my buddy's family barbecue, who's Polynesian, you know, he's a Pacific Islander guy.

01:35:48.000 One real diverse family reunion, right?

01:35:51.000 Because that's the beauty of a culture is that you kind of have the whole point of having a culture is to have some advantages.

01:35:57.000 I can't just wander into your family's thing and go, how come there's no more, there's not any Filipinos here?

01:36:04.000 That's not how it works.

01:36:05.000 I always say that.

01:36:06.000 I think I've said it a couple times on stage, but like, I wonder if liberals go to like Japan and they're like, this is disgusting. 0.96

01:36:13.000 You know, it's all Japanese people here.

01:36:15.000 It's not very diverse.

01:36:17.000 I wonder.

01:36:17.000 Do they go to Russia?

01:36:19.000 Oh my gosh.

01:36:20.000 Where's the diversity here?

01:36:21.000 Like, that's not how things work.

01:36:24.000 No, there's a lot of countries that aren't diverse at all.

01:36:26.000 And it's fine as long as they're black. 1.00

01:36:29.000 You know what I mean?

01:36:30.000 It's like all black, it's totally fine. 1.00

01:36:32.000 But all like Poland's a problem. 1.00

01:36:34.000 That's a real problem.

01:36:35.000 Yeah, it's insane to me.

01:36:36.000 Well, it's people are just weird, you know?

01:36:38.000 And look, racism is bad.

01:36:40.000 So because actual racism is bad, people look for racism all sorts of places and then they start deciding that things are racist.

01:36:48.000 Or, you know, they can do with a lot of stuff.

01:36:50.000 Like, you know, we were talking about this the other day.

01:36:52.000 This idea of silence is violence.

01:36:54.000 That's crazy.

01:36:54.000 Like, shut the fuck up.

01:36:55.000 Nobody ever punched you then.

01:36:57.000 I'll show you some violence. 1.00

01:36:58.000 And then you'll go, hey, can we go back to the silence?

01:37:00.000 Come to the UFC with me.

01:37:01.000 I'll show you what, like, this is what.

01:37:03.000 See, that's what violence is. 0.92

01:37:04.000 This is a sport of it.

01:37:04.000 Yes.

01:37:06.000 These are nice people.

01:37:07.000 Like, that's actual violence.

01:37:09.000 Not fucking words.

01:37:10.000 It's definitely not silence.

01:37:12.000 Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.

01:37:15.000 And then they start using sticks and stones.

01:37:16.000 You go, let's go back to names.

01:37:18.000 I'm happy with names.

01:37:20.000 There was less blood when you were calling me names.

01:37:23.000 Yeah, you're being silly.

01:37:25.000 Silence is not violence, you fucking idiot.

01:37:27.000 That's so dumb.

01:37:28.000 Silence is just silence.

01:37:29.000 You can't fucking deny it.

01:37:31.000 But it shows what you want, is what you want to force people to comply.

01:37:34.000 You want to force people to say what you want them to say.

01:37:37.000 Put that black square on your leverage power.

01:37:40.000 Yeah.

01:37:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:37:40.000 Exactly.

01:37:41.000 And it's a bunch of losers.

01:37:42.000 It's usually a bunch of losers at the wheel of that bus. 0.99

01:37:45.000 Yeah.

01:37:45.000 They're going right off the cliff and they want to bring you with them.

01:37:47.000 Like, what are you doing?

01:37:48.000 Not a fun place.

01:37:49.000 Not fun.

01:37:50.000 Yeah.

01:37:50.000 Don't like it.

01:37:51.000 That's not the world we live in.

01:37:52.000 Yeah.

01:37:53.000 Or it's not the universe that comics like to live in at all.

01:37:56.000 That's the other thing about all these people pushing all these different things to call everybody an issue or whatever the fuck you are.

01:38:04.000 You have a phobia, whatever it is.

01:38:06.000 All these people seem to be miserable.

01:38:09.000 Yeah.

01:38:10.000 Yeah, they don't seem very happy.

01:38:11.000 And they're proud of their anger.

01:38:11.000 And the same thing.

01:38:13.000 Which is odd.

01:38:14.000 It's like, find some things to love.

01:38:14.000 Yeah.

01:38:16.000 Okay.

01:38:17.000 There's a lot to love in this world.

01:38:18.000 Comic went on and kill Tony last night.

01:38:20.000 He was so great.

01:38:21.000 And I am remiss that I don't remember his name.

01:38:24.000 And he was able to rattle off, which I'm sure he's done before.

01:38:26.000 It's probably in his act, but he was able to rattle off all his interests.

01:38:30.000 He's like, oh, I'm in, you know, Universal Studios, let's go.

01:38:33.000 Monster Truck Rally.

01:38:34.000 And I was like, I immediately wanted to be friends with this guy because I'm like, that's how I want to live.

01:38:34.000 Let's do it.

01:38:39.000 I live, or I mean, I do live like that.

01:38:40.000 And I was like, dude, I can identify with this so much.

01:38:43.000 The little kid in me is like, yeah, whatever it is, let's go.

01:38:46.000 I go to the gay pride parade.

01:38:48.000 I've got a lot of gay friends.

01:38:49.000 Let's fucking do it.

01:38:50.000 Like, like, whatever it is.

01:38:51.000 That's so much better of an attitude.

01:38:51.000 Right.

01:38:53.000 It's just like, let's, let's do it all.

01:38:55.000 Let's, let's, let's jump in these things.

01:38:56.000 Like, that's so much more fun than going, we're not going there because of this, or we're not doing that because of this.

01:39:01.000 And this is probably, it's like, it's too exhausting.

01:39:04.000 Well, a lot of people like being exhausted because it keeps them active.

01:39:08.000 They've got something to think about.

01:39:09.000 It's their sports.

01:39:10.000 Yeah, it is.

01:39:11.000 You know, politics for a lot of people is their sport.

01:39:14.000 And it's not just their sports.

01:39:15.000 It's like they're fanatical Red Sox fans.

01:39:17.000 It's the religion.

01:39:18.000 It's Red Sox to the death.

01:39:18.000 Yeah.

01:39:20.000 And that's what it is.

01:39:21.000 Like, fuck the Yankees.

01:39:22.000 That's all it is, man.

01:39:23.000 But it's the same thing.

01:39:24.000 So the sports one is where I think it's a little different because the Yankees fan doesn't want to murder the Red Sox fan.

01:39:31.000 Unless you're in the family.

01:39:32.000 They still like baseball.

01:39:32.000 They break people's legs.

01:39:34.000 Yeah, sometimes.

01:39:35.000 But I'm saying they still like baseball.

01:39:38.000 They can still agree, oh, we're at the ballpark.

01:39:38.000 Yes.

01:39:40.000 You know, we're having a hot dog.

01:39:42.000 And it's like, fuck you. 0.87

01:39:42.000 And you're like, fuck you. 0.87

01:39:43.000 And it's fun.

01:39:44.000 But like, the people that claim they hate religion the most are acting their politics out like religious zealots.

01:39:44.000 You know, it's fun.

01:39:51.000 Right.

01:39:51.000 They're going, well, this is, I wouldn't even talk.

01:39:53.000 Jimmy Kimmel's wife.

01:39:54.000 I can't even talk to them anymore.

01:39:56.000 I, I, I don't think she's having a hard time talking to them.

01:40:01.000 I might be, I've watched it a bunch, but so what happened was she said that she was always struggling with it since Trump's been in office.

01:40:08.000 But now she doesn't even want to be with these people because it's personal to her.

01:40:14.000 That like that now she's made the decision to not, and it's like that's that's where it's a problem.

01:40:22.000 Struggling with it's fine.

01:40:23.000 Family reins want to have a talk with your aunt who voted for Trump or something.

01:40:26.000 I think that's healthy.

01:40:27.000 You know, like, let's talk about it.

01:40:28.000 Because if you're doing any of these things and you can't defend it, you're probably pretty stupid.

01:40:31.000 But when you start going, I won't even be associated with that person because of whatever it is.

01:40:37.000 That's a problem.

01:40:38.000 Well, it doesn't seem smart.

01:40:40.000 Yeah.

01:40:40.000 It doesn't seem healthy.

01:40:42.000 You know, if you don't have any room for disagreement.

01:40:45.000 But it's also like the thing between Kimmel and Trump, it's so dumb.

01:40:48.000 It's very dumb.

01:40:49.000 It's so dumb.

01:40:50.000 I can't believe.

01:40:52.000 Like, and then he went after what's he went after Jimmy Fallon and Seth Myers as well, right?

01:40:59.000 Called them losers.

01:41:00.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:41:00.000 That's crazy.

01:41:01.000 I know.

01:41:02.000 That's so dumb.

01:41:04.000 I don't understand.

01:41:06.000 I guess no one is around to tell him that.

01:41:09.000 He must be in a bubble.

01:41:10.000 He's 100% in a bubble, but that's also the way he's behaved his whole life.

01:41:14.000 Like, that's how he would attack you if he was on The Apprentice.

01:41:16.000 You know, I was supposed to do the Celebrity Apprentice.

01:41:18.000 I was supposed to do it too, but way after it was good.

01:41:22.000 I was supposed to do it with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

01:41:23.000 Well, I was supposed to do it with him.

01:41:24.000 With Trump.

01:41:25.000 Yes.

01:41:25.000 Okay.

01:41:26.000 It was when Fear Factor was returning to NBC.

01:41:29.000 They asked me to do Celebrity Apprentice, and I thought about it.

01:41:31.000 But my kids were really young at the time.

01:41:33.000 I didn't want to live in New York.

01:41:34.000 And I was like, how long does it take?

01:41:36.000 It takes forever.

01:41:37.000 And then also like, that guy's going to be mean to me.

01:41:38.000 And I'm going to be like, fuck it.

01:41:39.000 It's not fun.

01:41:40.000 Like, that's not going to be fun.

01:41:41.000 Like, I'm not good with that.

01:41:42.000 You know, I'll get real.

01:41:44.000 I wonder what your political opinion would be of Trump if you had done Celebrity Apprentice.

01:41:49.000 Interesting.

01:41:50.000 I think he always had an understanding of how the whole political process worked.

01:41:58.000 Like, there's an interesting interview of him way back in the day.

01:42:02.000 I think he was talking to Barbara Walters, maybe.

01:42:06.000 It was a really old interview where he was talking about maybe one day running for president.

01:42:12.000 And this is back when he was a Democrat.

01:42:14.000 Yeah.

01:42:14.000 You know, he was a Democrat for a long time.

01:42:15.000 He's from Queensland.

01:42:16.000 He's a New York guy.

01:42:17.000 He's a young portion of his life.

01:42:20.000 And, you know, I think Elon said it best.

01:42:22.000 He's a product of his time.

01:42:25.000 You know, and that's the thing.

01:42:26.000 This is an almost 80-year-old man who's a real estate guy who likes to see his name in big gold letters.

01:42:33.000 Loves America.

01:42:33.000 Because that's what he always liked.

01:42:35.000 Like, I like my name, big gold letters.

01:42:37.000 Like, everything's big and gold.

01:42:39.000 That's what he genuinely wrote.

01:42:40.000 And if people knew that about him, they would give him a little more grace when he says crazy things.

01:42:44.000 Because if you read his book, there was a part where he was like, he's like.

01:42:48.000 Okay, do you think he really wrote the book?

01:42:50.000 No, but I don't think anyone does.

01:42:52.000 Dennis Rodman didn't write his book.

01:42:54.000 He had a guy follow him.

01:42:55.000 Some people write their own book for sure.

01:42:57.000 But not the majority.

01:42:58.000 Or actually, that's not true.

01:42:59.000 The majority of people write their own books.

01:43:01.000 The majority of celebrities have someone follow them and talk to them in coffee shops.

01:43:05.000 Dev goes right up.

01:43:08.000 But he was like talking about, he's like, this building's the biggest in New York.

01:43:11.000 And they're like, it's not even the biggest building in this.

01:43:11.000 It's the best.

01:43:14.000 And he goes, you know what I mean?

01:43:15.000 Like, it's kind of like.

01:43:16.000 And if you know that, then you kind of like give him a little more grace when he's just saying, it's just kind of how he is.

01:43:21.000 He's this.

01:43:22.000 I'm the best.

01:43:23.000 It doesn't mean he's really the best.

01:43:24.000 It means he's got an attitude of the best.

01:43:26.000 You saw the BBC thing, right?

01:43:28.000 What thing?

01:43:29.000 He didn't say this thing where BBC got in trouble for editing his speech.

01:43:33.000 We talked about it yesterday.

01:43:35.000 I'll just tell you real briefly.

01:43:37.000 So they took a segment of him saying something and then spliced in a segment of him saying something else from 53 minutes later.

01:43:45.000 Right, the Storming the Capitol.

01:43:47.000 Right, from the January 6th.

01:43:47.000 Yes.

01:43:49.000 Crazy.

01:43:49.000 Yeah, which is not journalism.

01:43:52.000 Like that is not journalism, but like full-on lying and propaganda.

01:43:57.000 And it's kind of fucking dangerous.

01:43:58.000 And those are the things people watch.

01:44:01.000 That's what I say in that shortened bullshit.

01:44:03.000 Yes, but these people lost their jobs because of it.

01:44:06.000 It's a big deal.

01:44:07.000 And not only that, but like they're getting hounded by reporters.

01:44:07.000 Yeah.

01:44:10.000 They're asking them the answers that they have for why they did what they did.

01:44:13.000 It's like crazy.

01:44:15.000 They felt, it seems like these people, this is just my opinion.

01:44:19.000 It seems like these people felt justified for completely lying because it would lead to an ultimate good.

01:44:27.000 So they lost all journalistic integrity.

01:44:30.000 And it is the BBC, which is like the height of journalistic integrity.

01:44:34.000 If that doesn't show the rot of mainstream corporate-controlled media, then nothing does.

01:44:40.000 Right.

01:44:41.000 Because that's pure rot.

01:44:42.000 If at the top of the heap, you got like, in my mind, if like if somebody said something to me and they quoted a source and it was the BBC, I was like, okay, that's like Washington Post.

01:44:54.000 That's like New York Times.

01:44:55.000 It's a very official source.

01:44:57.000 So I'm thinking, this must be real.

01:44:59.000 And they turned it into activism and they turned it into lying.

01:45:04.000 And they did it in front of everybody where you could clearly just listen to the whole thing and know he didn't say that.

01:45:11.000 But that's not how he said it at all.

01:45:12.000 It's like, well, and I think I'm sorry that I keep harping on this, but like that's what AOC or kind of the left I see most guilty of doing is in their brain they go, I know that this is a little like whatever, but it's for our greater good.

01:45:12.000 Yeah.

01:45:29.000 Right.

01:45:29.000 So they're doing that with their own thing.

01:45:32.000 Listen, I don't, I'm smart enough to know that Charlie Kirk was trying to make a point about blank.

01:45:38.000 But if I twist this a little, it's for the greater good of what I'm trying to do here.

01:45:43.000 And so they justify it to themselves.

01:45:45.000 They say, oh, well, now I know that I might have been a little political politician-y here, but it's for a greater good.

01:45:52.000 And it's vague.

01:45:52.000 For a greater good.

01:45:53.000 And it's like, listen, look, he hates black people.

01:45:56.000 That's why Obama disappointed me so much during the Kamala Harris campaign.

01:46:01.000 Because he did that thing where he said, you know, that he said that white nationalists are very fine people.

01:46:07.000 Yeah.

01:46:08.000 He said, we have very fine people on both sides.

01:46:10.000 And when you hear the actual quote and the difference between what they're saying, he said, and what he said was the exact opposite.

01:46:17.000 He said, and I'm not talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists.

01:46:22.000 He's like, I forget the exact wordage he used.

01:46:25.000 They should be condemned.

01:46:27.000 Whatever he said, along those lines.

01:46:29.000 He specifically said, not those people.

01:46:32.000 I'm talking about people that just didn't want these statues torn down.

01:46:35.000 Yes.

01:46:35.000 That there's very fine people on both sides.

01:46:37.000 Some people just go, yeah, Robert E. Lee's a really bad guy.

01:46:41.000 But it's like, this is a part of history.

01:46:43.000 It is.

01:46:43.000 Yeah.

01:46:44.000 This is like, this is just reality.

01:46:46.000 Yeah.

01:46:47.000 But that using that during Kamala Harris's campaign, I was like, that's crazy.

01:46:52.000 You know what he said.

01:46:55.000 They cut it out.

01:46:55.000 You must know.

01:46:57.000 But why would you sacrifice what's so valuable is like your stature and your integrity?

01:47:04.000 Why would you sacrifice that for someone who just probably wasn't going to win anyway?

01:47:08.000 Right.

01:47:08.000 I mean, I don't know if it's money or if it's some sort of oath or if it's intentional, whatever, but like that stuff's so dangerous.

01:47:15.000 I really like that shortening of like what someone said, taking it out of context.

01:47:20.000 I think there's also the consequences of people going to trial for that RussiaGate stuff.

01:47:26.000 Because I think that RussiaGate collusion hoax that they perpetrated on mainstream media for years.

01:47:33.000 And a lot of people are really uncomfortable with even saying it was a hoax.

01:47:37.000 No, it was a hoax, ladies and gentlemen.

01:47:39.000 It was a hoax, and a lot of people coordinated that hoax.

01:47:43.000 And there was a lot of people involved.

01:47:44.000 And I think they're super sketched out about Trump being president again and possibly digging into that stuff.

01:47:51.000 And he's doing that now.

01:47:53.000 And you're finding real evidence that the people that you would think the intelligence agencies, you think, what are they here for?

01:47:59.000 They're here to make America safe and protect us from problems.

01:48:02.000 But it seems like they also meddle.

01:48:06.000 And not just meddle, but like completely try to sabotage someone and paint them out in a way that's completely inaccurate, knowingly, willingly, with taxpayer dollars, funding it all.

01:48:19.000 For the greater good.

01:48:20.000 For their greater good.

01:48:21.000 Bro, I might say very fine people too, if I was doing that.

01:48:25.000 Whatever he's a fucking Nazi. 0.58

01:48:27.000 Let's not.

01:48:28.000 He's Hitler. 0.95

01:48:29.000 Let's say whatever the fuck keep him out of office.

01:48:32.000 I think that's what happened with the, in a way, that's kind of what happened with like the Epstein list thing.

01:48:37.000 I think like the reason you're never going to see that is because there's just too many powerful people that are in that that are on both sides.

01:48:45.000 It would kind of be a, not a collapse, but like a social kind of like collapse of like both sides.

01:48:51.000 I mean, I don't think there's like that.

01:48:52.000 You're not going to find all liberals went to this island.

01:48:54.000 You're not going to find all conservatives went to this island.

01:48:57.000 You're going to see a list of some of very powerful creeps on everything.

01:49:02.000 So it's like both this like stalemate of the right and the left going, maybe we just won't do this.

01:49:07.000 But it's not just that.

01:49:08.000 It's this ball of yarn of what did they do with the information?

01:49:13.000 What did they, if they did compromise you and they did fly you out to an island, you did have sex with underage girls. 0.99

01:49:20.000 What did you do then when you were confronted by the fact that they know this?

01:49:24.000 Right.

01:49:25.000 What did you do?

01:49:25.000 Like what decisions were made?

01:49:27.000 What foreign policy decisions were made?

01:49:30.000 What financial decisions were made?

01:49:32.000 What money got donated?

01:49:33.000 How much money transferred back and forth to different accounts because of things that happened there?

01:49:39.000 How many huge international decisions were made by people in powerful positions because someone has a video of them doing something very compromising on an island.

01:49:51.000 That's why I'm glad that I, I mean, I might not be very rich or anything, but like if something, you know, if they try to figure out something on me, this would be their research.

01:50:01.000 They'd be like, all right, we found Jeff Dead.

01:50:03.000 He likes a sprite, you know?

01:50:08.000 He also watches pro-rel, like, they'd have nothing. 0.66

01:50:11.000 They would just be searching.

01:50:12.000 You're not a guy who's trying to run the world.

01:50:14.000 Yeah.

01:50:14.000 The thing is, everybody who wants to run the world, everybody wants to be the president.

01:50:18.000 They're all fucking.

01:50:19.000 They've all done weird shit.

01:50:21.000 They're fucking crazy.

01:50:22.000 And then they get into a position where they have like ultimate power and they're putting fucking masks on and fucking each other.

01:50:27.000 And that's skull and bones.

01:50:29.000 It's crazy stuff to me.

01:50:31.000 Yeah.

01:50:31.000 There's always been these weird secret societies of people that get really wealthy and they do kooky things and they wife swap.

01:50:38.000 Yeah.

01:50:39.000 It's very strange.

01:50:41.000 People lose their fucking minds with any kind of power.

01:50:44.000 And you got the kind of power where you're literally like running the government.

01:50:48.000 You're literally running the whole government.

01:50:50.000 I don't want to do bad stuff.

01:50:51.000 Like it's crazy.

01:50:52.000 It's like, I guess my brain's just.

01:50:53.000 You don't want to run the government.

01:50:54.000 I know.

01:50:55.000 But if I just, I think to myself, I'm like, it's crazy that there's this much shit on all these powerful people.

01:51:01.000 Like it's crazy.

01:51:02.000 It's not crazy though, because you think, like, what is their pursuit?

01:51:05.000 It's just like very bizarre pursuit because either they really are for the people and they really want to make the world a better place.

01:51:11.000 Well, then you're not going to get anything on them because then they're Bernie Sanders.

01:51:13.000 Right.

01:51:14.000 You got nothing.

01:51:14.000 Yeah, they just.

01:51:15.000 You got nothing.

01:51:16.000 You know, he might not be effective, but you don't have anything on him.

01:51:19.000 That's it.

01:51:20.000 He's not going to compromise.

01:51:20.000 He doesn't have to.

01:51:21.000 He got nothing on him.

01:51:23.000 Or you got someone who wants to be a leader for some strange reason, and they're really not that extraordinary, but they're in a really shallow pool of talent.

01:51:31.000 Because that's the real truth about running for president or running for governor or running for mayor, is it's a fucking shallow pool of talent.

01:51:40.000 Because most people that have any kind of fucking talent talking don't want that job.

01:51:44.000 Why would I want that job?

01:51:44.000 Right.

01:51:45.000 Why would I want people to fucking shoot at me?

01:51:47.000 Why would I want half the country to fucking hate me no matter what I do?

01:51:51.000 Why would I want to get in and find out that this intertwined web of fucking money and power and influence?

01:51:58.000 There's no way to fix it.

01:51:59.000 And I'm just going to sit here for four years being a bad guy in a stupid White House.

01:52:03.000 Fuck that.

01:52:04.000 Because you took a photo with something on it.

01:52:05.000 So the people that want that are all out of their fucking minds.

01:52:08.000 And they're all kooks.

01:52:09.000 They're all Gavin Newsoms.

01:52:10.000 They're all Kamala Harris's and Donald Trumps.

01:52:13.000 And they're all kooky people.

01:52:15.000 And some of these kooky people will do a better job than other kooky people, but only kooky people want the job. 0.76

01:52:21.000 And until that changes, and until not just kooky people want the job, not non-kooky people want the job of being president, but non-kooky people involved in Congress and the Senate and everything.

01:52:33.000 Regular, rational people that can have real conversations and not try to diminish whoever you're talking to in every most reductionist way possible.

01:52:44.000 Make them out to be a moron because they're on the other side.

01:52:47.000 Actual solving of problems without you doing it at the behest of these massive corporations that have been donating to you.

01:52:55.000 So you have to bullshit your way and gaslight people and you can't be honest about your real opinions.

01:53:00.000 That's the real fucking problem with that whole system.

01:53:03.000 It is absolutely contaminated by both money and the promise of money in the future if you play ball.

01:53:10.000 That's where it gets real weird.

01:53:12.000 They leave government jobs and start working for pharmaceutical drug companies that they were regulating just 16 months ago.

01:53:21.000 It's like crazy.

01:53:22.000 It's like X or like Twitter.

01:53:24.000 It's like nobody's on there to go.

01:53:27.000 Oh, I'm going to try and find some people's ideas.

01:53:29.000 It's all like debate culture.

01:53:31.000 You could put the most simple thing and you have 700 people who just want to go, but the goal is to debate and argue and get into win and dunk on your opponent and make someone say there's not like nobody, like you said in the beginning, is like nobody's trying to just go, I think I really want to make it fair.

01:53:51.000 No one's saying that.

01:53:52.000 No, what's even more fun is Blue Sky.

01:53:55.000 You ever go to Blue Sky?

01:53:57.000 If you make an account, even in your name, you say, Jeff Dye, I bet you'll be banned.

01:54:00.000 I would bet you'll be banned within 20 minutes.

01:54:03.000 Yeah, you're problematic.

01:54:03.000 Yes.

01:54:04.000 You're a toxic person.

01:54:05.000 What is it?

01:54:06.000 You're heterosexual.

01:54:07.000 You're a cisgendered male.

01:54:10.000 Which is what?

01:54:12.000 We already had male.

01:54:13.000 We don't need to add that.

01:54:15.000 I thought I got to choose my pronouns.

01:54:15.000 I'm not doing it.

01:54:17.000 Why do they get to put cyst on me?

01:54:18.000 Cis on me.

01:54:20.000 But if you go there, I saw this one conversation where someone said they were talking about something saying, I'm trying to be Zen about it.

01:54:27.000 And then the next person said, try not to be racist against Asian people from Zen.

01:54:34.000 That's insane.

01:54:35.000 I mean, that's crazy.

01:54:37.000 It's whack-a-mole.

01:54:39.000 They just sit there ready to whack.

01:54:40.000 They're just ready for someone to pop up with any micro aggressions, any diversions from the narrative.

01:54:47.000 It's so exhausting.

01:54:50.000 It's like a liberal kind of like Facebook or something.

01:54:50.000 I've never heard of this.

01:54:53.000 Most people bailed on it.

01:54:54.000 So a lot of people like Stephen King said, I'm going over a post guy.

01:54:57.000 They all decided to go over to Blue Sky because Trump let them say whatever they want on Twitter and they just didn't like the reality of the world.

01:55:04.000 Right.

01:55:05.000 And so they're like, this is bullshit.

01:55:06.000 I'm leaving.

01:55:07.000 And they all come back.

01:55:08.000 They all come back to Twitter because X is more fun.

01:55:11.000 It's nuts, but it's way more fun than everybody just calling you racist for everything.

01:55:11.000 Exactly.

01:55:16.000 I do think that's the current problem with the world.

01:55:19.000 I know that's very vague, but like people just want to win the talk.

01:55:23.000 Nobody wants to have the talk.

01:55:25.000 Right.

01:55:25.000 So it's more about like, well, here's what you haven't thought about this.

01:55:29.000 Like it's, it's like, it's like, why are you talking at anyone like that?

01:55:32.000 Right.

01:55:32.000 Like, hear them out.

01:55:34.000 And then they also have the give them the luxury of being wrong.

01:55:38.000 It's okay to be wrong.

01:55:40.000 I'm wrong all the time.

01:55:41.000 But like, like, the only way I can be right is if I say the wrong thing and I learn.

01:55:45.000 All right.

01:55:46.000 You know, that's, that's, we should be having conversations, not arguments.

01:55:49.000 But the thing is, now you attach that to politics and you literally have to win the arguments because that's what the whole game is.

01:55:56.000 The whole game is like get up in front of all those people and state your claim and diminish the claim of your opponent.

01:56:03.000 And that's it.

01:56:04.000 It's stupid.

01:56:05.000 But they have to do it because they have to get elected because if they don't get elected, then they don't have power.

01:56:05.000 Yeah.

01:56:09.000 And if they don't have, once they get into power, then they have to use that power for their constituents and for the people that help them get into power.

01:56:16.000 So there's a bunch of fucking needs of these.

01:56:18.000 And there's a bill you want to put this in the bill because it's going to help the oil sector or this in the bill is going to help chips.

01:56:25.000 Woo! 0.99

01:56:26.000 And so, of course, you're going to put a mask on and go fuck a guy.

01:56:30.000 You're crazy.

01:56:32.000 You're doing a crazy job.

01:56:34.000 You're doing ecstasy.

01:56:35.000 You're hanging out with all these people that are running the world.

01:56:37.000 Of course, you're sucking dick with a VHS camera somewhere.

01:56:41.000 That's why I'm walking around town with a leather mask being walked by my boyfriend.

01:56:45.000 They can't take it anymore.

01:56:46.000 They're living an insane life where they're producing no value.

01:56:50.000 So there's nothing they're doing where, unless they're real.

01:56:53.000 Like that's one of the things about Bernie Sanders.

01:56:55.000 Love him or hate him.

01:56:56.000 That's a real guy, and he has real beliefs, and he's been steadfast about these real beliefs from the beginning of his career.

01:57:04.000 There's a photo of him that we showed on the podcast of him getting arrested at a civil rights protest in the 1960s, I think it was.

01:57:13.000 He's always been that guy.

01:57:15.000 Which is great.

01:57:15.000 That's who he is.

01:57:17.000 If you're not that, then what are you doing?

01:57:21.000 You're trying to just get ahead.

01:57:23.000 You're trying to win.

01:57:24.000 You're trying to gaslight the best.

01:57:26.000 You're trying to make your way through this weird game where you could be a senator or you could be a governor.

01:57:31.000 And then maybe you could be the president.

01:57:33.000 You have eyes on the throne.

01:57:35.000 First thing I'm going to do is take that tacky fucking gold leaf off the wall.

01:57:39.000 Trump put gold leaf everywhere.

01:57:42.000 He likes gold.

01:57:43.000 What's wrong with gold?

01:57:44.000 It looks kind of about his home decor.

01:57:46.000 It's the White House.

01:57:47.000 There was people complaining he made the White House look tacky.

01:57:50.000 It looks beautiful.

01:57:51.000 Well, who cares?

01:57:51.000 Yeah.

01:57:52.000 You don't live there.

01:57:53.000 I don't give a shit.

01:57:54.000 Well, they just don't want him doing that.

01:57:56.000 They don't want him, like...

01:57:56.000 Didn't he do it with his own money and stuff?

01:57:58.000 I mean, they've always done that.

01:58:00.000 And Taft put a fucking, he invented the hot tub on accident because he was like, that tub won't fit me.

01:58:04.000 I'm too fat.

01:58:05.000 Oh, really?

01:58:06.000 And then forever, like, people will go, oh, yeah, didn't Taft, even that big fat guy got stuck in a tub?

01:58:06.000 Yeah.

01:58:11.000 And it's not true.

01:58:12.000 He was just a big guy, made a funny joke.

01:58:14.000 And for now, like now all these young people are like, oh, yeah, Taft, the big fat guy, they got stuck in a tub.

01:58:19.000 It's not true.

01:58:20.000 He accidentally made a he just made a modification to the White House and it basically invented a hot tub.

01:58:27.000 Well, people are also upset that he's making a ballroom.

01:58:29.000 You see, he's making this giant ballroom.

01:58:32.000 It's all.

01:58:32.000 It doesn't bother me.

01:58:33.000 And he found out you're allowed to.

01:58:35.000 And then he goes, what's the deal with permits?

01:58:40.000 They're like, you don't have to get any permits.

01:58:41.000 You're the president.

01:58:42.000 You can just build it.

01:58:43.000 He's like, he's like, amazing.

01:58:44.000 As a real estate guy, he's like, that's fucking great.

01:58:46.000 Right.

01:58:47.000 For a guy like that, it's like, you just gave him the coolest fucking present ever.

01:58:50.000 He can make a beautiful, beautiful ballroom.

01:58:53.000 And people are so mad.

01:58:54.000 And they were saying that it was a waste of taxpayer money, but it turns out it's not.

01:58:57.000 It's all donations.

01:58:59.000 I think you can look this up, but I think Obama spent like $350 million of taxpayer money making modifications to the White House.

01:59:05.000 I think that's true, too.

01:59:06.000 And like, did you?

01:59:08.000 And I don't care about that either.

01:59:08.000 No one cared.

01:59:09.000 I'm not using that as a what about.

01:59:11.000 I'm saying I also don't care that Obama did it.

01:59:14.000 I don't give a shit.

01:59:15.000 Can I get a receipt?

01:59:16.000 Right.

01:59:17.000 $350 million?

01:59:18.000 What did you do?

01:59:19.000 Like, what costs $350 million to a house that's already standing?

01:59:24.000 Could you imagine it if you're a construction guy gave you a bill like that?

01:59:28.000 Like, I just want to fix it up nice.

01:59:30.000 Let's do all this.

01:59:31.000 And then send me a bill.

01:59:32.000 And you get a bill, it's $350 million.

01:59:34.000 You're like, hey, I need to talk to the foreman here.

01:59:37.000 Here's the thing about the White House.

01:59:39.000 It's not that big.

01:59:40.000 Right.

01:59:41.000 It's not that big, dude.

01:59:42.000 There's some pretty beautiful houses for $1.5 million.

01:59:45.000 That's a whole house.

01:59:46.000 A whole house.

01:59:48.000 $350 million is so much money.

01:59:50.000 Did you make another house underneath the house?

01:59:52.000 What happened?

01:59:53.000 Yeah, how did that happen?

01:59:54.000 A tunnel to a giant arena that's under the ground?

01:59:57.000 Maybe the guy gets $500,000 an hour to do the construction or something because I don't understand.

02:00:01.000 He's doing it at the White House.

02:00:03.000 He needs to get paid more.

02:00:03.000 It's like weddings.

02:00:05.000 They're like, I'd like to buy a cake.

02:00:07.000 And they go, sure, $40.

02:00:09.000 And he goes, for my wedding, $5,000.

02:00:13.000 They just changed the price.

02:00:14.000 You what?

02:00:15.000 I needed a bunch of flowers.

02:00:16.000 You gave me a great rate.

02:00:17.000 But then the second it's for a wedding, those flowers are now like this crazy.

02:00:21.000 Maybe that's what White House prices.

02:00:23.000 Because they know it's taxpayer money.

02:00:23.000 Yeah.

02:00:24.000 But $350 million seems like real excessive.

02:00:27.000 I'd like to know what they did.

02:00:28.000 Didn't one of the, was it Nixon or somebody make a bowling alley in there?

02:00:32.000 Nice.

02:00:33.000 That's a cool thing to be.

02:00:33.000 Yeah.

02:00:34.000 I'm a president too.

02:00:35.000 Is that what they do?

02:00:36.000 Like, you're allowed to just, you're going to be there for four years.

02:00:39.000 Just put a bowling alley in.

02:00:39.000 I think you get to, I don't know if that's true, but somebody put a bowling alley in over a pool or something I read.

02:00:45.000 But also, I didn't care.

02:00:46.000 I just go, sure.

02:00:47.000 If I was president, I'd probably make some adjustments.

02:00:50.000 You see, he took Biden's photo down and put a picture of the autopen up.

02:00:53.000 Oh, I did see that.

02:00:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:00:55.000 I didn't know if it was real.

02:00:56.000 I have a real struggle with what I see is real or not.

02:00:59.000 Let's find out if it is real.

02:00:59.000 It might not be real.

02:01:01.000 I think it is real, though.

02:01:02.000 I think that's what I heard.

02:01:04.000 Obama's era project covered renovations.

02:01:06.000 Trump knocked down a whole bunch of $376.

02:01:10.000 Okay.

02:01:11.000 $376 million cost to improve the East and West Wings infrastructure.

02:01:18.000 Peck described the project as largely underground utility work.

02:01:22.000 Doesn't do a whole lot of good to have a building that's sort of an image of the free world standing up there and not functioning well.

02:01:27.000 Peck told CNN when questioned about the cost.

02:01:30.000 Bloomberg News reported in 2010 the Obama renovation was the biggest White House upgrade since President Harry Truman was in office 48 to 52.

02:01:38.000 Truman oversaw the White House historic gutting, renovation, and expansion in response to significant structural issues that at one point resulted in the leg of his daughter piano breaking through the floor.

02:01:50.000 Trump's project would be the first major exterior change of the White House in 83 years.

02:01:55.000 Historic preservationists say.

02:01:57.000 You know, I read that and I just said, oh my God, because the leg of his daughter, and then it's the leg of his daughter's piano.

02:02:03.000 I read it too.

02:02:04.000 I was like, oh, no.

02:02:05.000 Just the piano broke.

02:02:06.000 Yeah, that was very deceptive the way they typed that.

02:02:08.000 Just the piano leg.

02:02:09.000 Yeah.

02:02:10.000 His daughter's leg.

02:02:12.000 Piano went through the floor.

02:02:13.000 One of the piano legs went through the floor.

02:02:14.000 Not the daughter.

02:02:16.000 His daughter's legs.

02:02:16.000 Why did you bring her up?

02:02:17.000 You're freaking me out.

02:02:19.000 She's not in this store.

02:02:20.000 I thought a kid broke her leg.

02:02:21.000 I was panicking.

02:02:22.000 It's just a fucking stupid piano.

02:02:25.000 But that building's not that big.

02:02:27.000 So I guess that makes more sense, though.

02:02:29.000 They had to do like crazy underground infrastructure shit that probably wasn't heating, cooling, and fire alarm systems that hadn't been updated since 1902 or 1934.

02:02:41.000 Still, I'd like to see a receipt.

02:02:42.000 Also, feeling ripped off.

02:02:44.000 I used to always say, I don't think that any president ever is at the White House.

02:02:49.000 Or they go to the White House, but they don't live there.

02:02:52.000 Yeah, they do.

02:02:53.000 You think that they live there?

02:02:54.000 Do they have a residency?

02:02:56.000 Well, I think there's like a tunnel to a different place that's another building, but they live in that building.

02:03:01.000 Because why would you want to put the most powerful person in America in the most famous address in America?

02:03:07.000 Well, it's the secret service.

02:03:07.000 People ideas.

02:03:09.000 You know, we keep them secret.

02:03:11.000 Don't give them ideas.

02:03:12.000 It is weird because you know where he sleeps all the time.

02:03:15.000 Right, that's crazy.

02:03:17.000 You have more security and anonymity than knowing where someone powerful is.

02:03:23.000 Like, that's crazy.

02:03:24.000 Even no matter how much security you have, the secret is the best part of it.

02:03:27.000 That's why secret service is good.

02:03:29.000 You want a secret address.

02:03:30.000 You want a secret home.

02:03:31.000 You want to move them around.

02:03:33.000 Yeah.

02:03:33.000 Don't have them in the same spot every night.

02:03:35.000 I think the White House has called it the famous, the most famous address in America.

02:03:38.000 Like, they say it's the most famous address.

02:03:40.000 It is the most famous.

02:03:41.000 So why would you put someone so powerful in the most famous?

02:03:45.000 Like, I just think that, like, even when I was in high school, I was like, I bet that they.

02:03:49.000 I'd like to think that we're not keeping the president in a place that everyone knows about.

02:03:55.000 Yeah.

02:03:56.000 But they do.

02:03:59.000 Hopefully no one's listening to this and you gave him an idea.

02:04:02.000 I hope not either.

02:04:03.000 Violence is bad.

02:04:05.000 That's the point.

02:04:05.000 Do you remember back in the Obama administration when that crazy person broke into the White House?

02:04:10.000 Got pretty far.

02:04:10.000 Yeah.

02:04:12.000 Didn't you have a bit about it?

02:04:12.000 Yeah.

02:04:13.000 Yeah, he had a bit of a situation.

02:04:13.000 Yeah.

02:04:14.000 There was a lady guarding the door without a gun. 1.00

02:04:17.000 What are we doing?

02:04:18.000 That is crazy.

02:04:19.000 That's so crazy.

02:04:20.000 It might have given someone some ideas.

02:04:22.000 Like, I could get pretty far.

02:04:23.000 Bro, that guy got all the way in.

02:04:25.000 If it wasn't for a off-duty Secret Service guy who saw that guy running through the fucking White House and he tackled him, he just happened to be there.

02:04:32.000 He wasn't even on duty.

02:04:33.000 What did they think?

02:04:34.000 Just like, well, no one's breaking.

02:04:36.000 Yeah, like, well, who would do that?

02:04:38.000 Like, that's crazy.

02:04:39.000 We're fine.

02:04:40.000 Yeah, it's so crazy.

02:04:43.000 People that have never been around crazy people, they don't know why lobotomies were done in the first place.

02:04:47.000 That's true.

02:04:48.000 Back then, people were like, enough of Mike.

02:04:51.000 We got to slow Mike down.

02:04:51.000 Right.

02:04:53.000 Let's crack.

02:04:54.000 Or you see, like, you work at like a homeless place and you go, oh, I kind of get it.

02:04:59.000 You go, yeah, you could kind of go, oh, these people, I don't know.

02:04:59.000 Yeah.

02:04:59.000 Right.

02:05:02.000 I don't know.

02:05:03.000 You know, they've done so much stuff and drugs and traumas and all that.

02:05:08.000 And you just kind of go, I could see how in the olden times they would go, these people are broken.

02:05:14.000 Let's, you know.

02:05:15.000 Especially if they're not medicated.

02:05:17.000 Like, there's out and out, like hardcore mental illness involved in most of the homelessness.

02:05:22.000 A large percentage of it, at least.

02:05:24.000 Yeah, which is a controversial statement, but it's 100% true.

02:05:27.000 Well, the mental illness leads to drug addiction, drug addiction, self-medicating, you know, a lot of trauma, a lot of things, a lot of factors.

02:05:35.000 But the answer to that isn't just let them camp.

02:05:39.000 Let them be in front of your house whacking off, shouting bomb threats.

02:05:39.000 Right.

02:05:43.000 Like, that's not ignoring it isn't the solution.

02:05:46.000 Yeah.

02:05:47.000 Not talking about it is not the solution.

02:05:49.000 I don't think lobotomy is the way to go, but I don't, I don't know.

02:05:49.000 Yeah.

02:05:52.000 I just meant like in the 30s, they would see that and go, you know, let's put this guy in a room.

02:05:56.000 Well, in the 30s, I bet people in the there was a bunch of people that were in shanty towns in New York City back during the Depression.

02:06:02.000 Oh, yeah.

02:06:03.000 The Depression was so bad that New York City had like, you know, like these little handmade houses like that people had built.

02:06:11.000 You ever see any of that stuff?

02:06:13.000 See if you can find shanty towns from New York City from the Great Depression.

02:06:17.000 Yeah, man, it must have been so dangerous.

02:06:20.000 I mean, it's basically homeless encampments in the middle of Central Park, and there's no jobs, man.

02:06:26.000 There's no jobs and there's no fucking.

02:06:28.000 In the Depression.

02:06:29.000 No.

02:06:31.000 Isn't that crazy, man?

02:06:32.000 Imagine living out there, how dangerous that would be.

02:06:34.000 That's downtown Denver, right there.

02:06:36.000 And that's all because of the motherfucking bankers.

02:06:40.000 That's all because of the bankers.

02:06:41.000 They crashed the stock market.

02:06:44.000 That's crazy.

02:06:45.000 Was just hearing something really crazy where someone was making a connection between Rockefeller and alcohol being during Prohibition that one of the competing fuel sources back then was ethanol.

02:07:05.000 I don't even know if this is true, but that Rockefeller had control of oil and they were using oil to make pharmaceutical drugs.

02:07:14.000 So like most of the drugs that people buy, the reason why they started doing it that way is because Rockefeller, because he had control of the oil.

02:07:23.000 And this was saying that he wanted to stop them, people from using ethanol.

02:07:27.000 So he wanted, he thought the best way to do that was to make it so that no one could have the ability to produce alcohol.

02:07:35.000 And the best way to do that is to make a prohibition about alcohol.

02:07:39.000 But it sounds crazy.

02:07:42.000 It says it's a myth.

02:07:44.000 Let's see why they say it's a myth.

02:07:45.000 John D. Rockefeller is often blamed for using prohibition to eliminate ethanol as a competing fuel source to gasoline from his standard oil business.

02:07:53.000 But this is a myth.

02:07:54.000 Rockefeller supported the temperance movement primarily for religious and social reasons.

02:08:00.000 Okay, that's the excuse that's publicly stated that he supported alcohol prohibition for religious and social reasons, believing alcohol consumption was harmful and aiming for a more productive workforce.

02:08:13.000 So this is the problem with it.

02:08:14.000 These are not quotes.

02:08:15.000 This is like someone saying why this guy supported banning alcohol and not, yes, he did work to ban alcohol and yes, he did benefit from it because ethanol was taken out.

02:08:27.000 That is true.

02:08:28.000 So ethanol as a fuel was not banned, it's saying, explicitly allowing, even promoted the use of high-proof alcohol for scientific research, fuel, or other lawful industries during prohibition.

02:08:40.000 Ethanol as a fuel was not banned.

02:08:43.000 In fact, some industrialists, including Rockefeller, dabbled in ethanol fuel production.

02:08:48.000 Henry Ford also pursued ethanol fuel development during this time.

02:08:52.000 Okay, so I take back what I said.

02:08:54.000 So it's not that it was banned.

02:08:56.000 So that doesn't make any sense then.

02:08:59.000 It would make sense if somehow or another, but could you, if you were using ethanol, though, the thing is, like if you stop people from making their own alcohol, if you make it illegal to make your own alcohol, you definitely can't make your own fuel.

02:09:17.000 And then you can't use ethanol because you can actually make ethanol with corn.

02:09:21.000 That's how they make it.

02:09:23.000 So I could see how you would say if you wanted to sell more gasoline, you would make it so people can't make their own fermentation and you can't make your own alcohol.

02:09:33.000 And one of the best ways to stop people from making their own alcohol would be the prohibition of alcohol.

02:09:38.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:09:39.000 Yeah.

02:09:40.000 Like it doesn't seem that clean to me.

02:09:42.000 That looks like a little squirrely.

02:09:43.000 Like he supported a prohibition of alcohol because of morals, but yet he was like really involved in a lot of shady shit that seemed like he was very controlled.

02:09:52.000 Those religious beliefs were sidelined.

02:09:55.000 Yeah, man.

02:09:56.000 Also, he had a part in the structuring of the education system to make people good little factory workers.

02:10:02.000 Get them up early, get them to school quickly before the parents can give them any sense of how the world really works.

02:10:02.000 Yeah.

02:10:10.000 And then brainwash them.

02:10:11.000 Get them in there and make good workers out of them.

02:10:11.000 Bring them in.

02:10:13.000 He was a big part of that as well.

02:10:15.000 That guy had a lot of power.

02:10:17.000 Yeah, that's he'd have been an interesting guy in politics.

02:10:21.000 So it's not true that he, that ethanol, that they prohibited it, but it is true that they kind of eliminated people making their own alcohol.

02:10:29.000 And if you're not, if people aren't like making engines from ethanol, because most people are using gasoline at the time, it seems like they don't have the materials.

02:10:39.000 Yeah.

02:10:40.000 It would be a good way to stop people from making their own gas, and then you'll sell more gas.

02:10:45.000 I tried to buy something recently because I had like a chest cough.

02:10:49.000 And they're like, you should get this shit.

02:10:50.000 And then I went to the Riot Aid or whatever it was.

02:10:52.000 And they're like, oh, that's behind the counter.

02:10:53.000 So I go up and ask her for it.

02:10:55.000 She needs my ID. 0.98

02:10:55.000 She beeps my ID. 0.98

02:10:56.000 And I go, Why?

02:10:57.000 She goes, Oh, because enough of this, you can make meth. 1.00

02:11:00.000 And I go, Really?

02:11:01.000 She goes, Yeah.

02:11:02.000 So we have to make sure that the person, like, that it's kind of documented who bought it and how much.

02:11:05.000 Like Sudafed, right?

02:11:06.000 Yeah, I think that is something like that.

02:11:08.000 And then I was like, oh, shit.

02:11:10.000 And I need 700 of these.

02:11:13.000 But like, I didn't even know that's how guys were making meth.

02:11:16.000 You got to regulate all that kind of stuff.

02:11:18.000 You imagine how bad that meth was.

02:11:20.000 You got some assholes that go to the grocery store and just clean up the pharmaceutical aisle. 1.00

02:11:26.000 That's the sad part about addiction, man.

02:11:27.000 You'll see like these homeless guys drinking mouthwash.

02:11:30.000 You're like, how bad has it got?

02:11:32.000 That you're just like chugging Listerine in an alley to get drunk.

02:11:37.000 Like that's, I mean, that's a, that's.

02:11:38.000 What is a really good buzz?

02:11:40.000 I mean, I guarantee it's a good buzz.

02:11:44.000 Like, and your breath's great.

02:11:45.000 Can you imagine a Listerine buzz?

02:11:47.000 Ugh.

02:11:48.000 Imagine a Listerine buzz.

02:11:50.000 I mean, sometimes I have tequila.

02:11:52.000 I don't drink anymore, but sometimes I would have tequila, and that felt like mouthwash.

02:11:56.000 You know, you have like a shitty, cheap tequila, and you go, oh, I just don't know.

02:11:59.000 Do you know a large percentage of tequila apparently is fake?

02:12:03.000 It's not made with agave.

02:12:05.000 Really?

02:12:05.000 Yeah, there was a big scandal.

02:12:07.000 See if you can find anything on that.

02:12:08.000 But it still got people drunk.

02:12:09.000 Oh, yeah.

02:12:10.000 But I think the scandal was that people were saying that it was like real tequila, like legit tequila made from agave.

02:12:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:12:17.000 Yeah.

02:12:17.000 But it wasn't.

02:12:18.000 Yeah.

02:12:18.000 It's just like fucking some shitty alcohol.

02:12:20.000 Yeah.

02:12:21.000 Some nonsense.

02:12:22.000 That counts.

02:12:22.000 It's tequila.

02:12:23.000 I know, but I mean, I guess scammers probably thought, like, if they were scammers.

02:12:28.000 So who knows who's doing it along the way?

02:12:30.000 Maybe it's the manufacturer.

02:12:31.000 Maybe it's the original person.

02:12:32.000 Who knows?

02:12:33.000 But they didn't think someone was going to check.

02:12:35.000 Yeah, it's kind of strange.

02:12:37.000 I think about all those kind of things.

02:12:38.000 Like, I remember they were doing this big campaign.

02:12:40.000 They're like, McDonald's uses real beef now.

02:12:42.000 I'm like, what were they using?

02:12:44.000 Like, what do you mean?

02:12:45.000 Like, if the tequila company would now market, like, no, this is now real tequila.

02:12:49.000 You'd be like, what were we drinking?

02:12:50.000 This is a proposed class action lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York.

02:12:56.000 Goes on to allege that both brands fail to meet the regulatory requirements to label themselves as 100% agave in Mexico and the United States, even though they carry that distinction on their labels.

02:13:07.000 So what are these brands?

02:13:09.000 Click on that link where it says those brands.

02:13:12.000 Oh, Casamigos and Don Julio machine.

02:13:15.000 Significant amounts of non-agave alcohol despite being labeled as 100% agave.

02:13:22.000 Customers named the suit claimed that they purchased the products under the assumption that the tequilas were made exclusively from Blue Weber agave and paid prices reflective of that premium designation.

02:13:35.000 Somebody's cutting the product, son.

02:13:37.000 Yeah.

02:13:38.000 That's how it goes.

02:13:39.000 No one's paying history repeating itself over and over and over.

02:13:42.000 And those are big ones.

02:13:43.000 Those are like, I didn't expect it to be something I've heard of.

02:13:46.000 But here's the question: who did it?

02:13:48.000 Right?

02:13:49.000 You got to follow that web to go, okay, where did that money come from?

02:13:53.000 Is it that guy?

02:13:54.000 Is it like a manufacturer?

02:13:56.000 Is it someone who's in the plant?

02:13:59.000 Are they skimping?

02:13:59.000 Is it someone?

02:14:01.000 Are they ripping them off?

02:14:02.000 Like, who did it?

02:14:03.000 Yeah.

02:14:03.000 Who did it?

02:14:04.000 You know, I mean, if you're an asshole and you're running the distillery and you're like, fuck those Don Julio people.

02:14:10.000 And we have to.

02:14:11.000 And you're like, I know how to make it better.

02:14:13.000 I can make more money.

02:14:14.000 And then he skims.

02:14:15.000 We're going to need 100 grand.

02:14:17.000 It only costs 40.

02:14:18.000 Greedy, greedy.

02:14:20.000 Yep.

02:14:20.000 Yeah.

02:14:21.000 Who knows?

02:14:22.000 It's probably a tangled web of scumbags that were using the company to make money.

02:14:22.000 Who knows?

02:14:27.000 When I first worked at Giggles Comedy Club, the owner, like we didn't really have a green room.

02:14:32.000 We're just kind of in the back world, like the soda tubes are going from the boxes of syrup and all the bottles of alcor back there.

02:14:39.000 And he had one bottle of every kind of like top shelf liquor, but he would just pour shitty liquor in there, like with funnels, like totally against the law.

02:14:49.000 Just like funneling like the cheapest tequila he could get in like the finest tequila bottle.

02:14:54.000 And then when people would, people would constantly bring it back, like, this tastes wrong.

02:14:58.000 He goes, you saw me pour it from the bottle.

02:14:59.000 And they're like, yeah, I guess.

02:15:01.000 I don't know.

02:15:02.000 But I watched him do that so many times.

02:15:05.000 That's hilarious.

02:15:06.000 Yeah, because he could charge like this, you know.

02:15:08.000 Crazy amount and then you just get the shittiest, cheapest tequila from like Costco or wherever the heck.

02:15:13.000 I know that's so gross.

02:15:13.000 That's so gross.

02:15:14.000 I watch how many people do that all over the world.

02:15:17.000 There's a lot of that going on.

02:15:18.000 There was there was a great documentary about that.

02:15:21.000 It's called uh, sour grapes and it's all about these wine guys that got duped.

02:15:25.000 They were buying this wine that was like Thomas Jefferson's wine.

02:15:29.000 Some dude was making it.

02:15:30.000 Some dude in Century City was like making the the, the labels, putting over the bottle, putting dirt on yeah, he was totally doing that and he was mixing a bunch of cheap wine to try to come up with this flavor.

02:15:43.000 So weird, like it's always this was it a big wine guy like oh yeah, oh really oh dude he he, this is how he up.

02:15:50.000 He ripped off the COKE Brothers to a big like yeah, and they had.

02:15:54.000 They bought some old ass like Thomas Jefferson wine and it wasn't real.

02:15:59.000 And then they they also had some magnums from a company that never made magnums during that year they're during that era and this actual wine guy saw their seller and started putting what is this right?

02:16:10.000 And he says that's this and that he goes, no no no they, they don't do that.

02:16:14.000 This is not from that.

02:16:15.000 This is fake.

02:16:16.000 And he was like what?

02:16:17.000 And so then they have a lot of resources obviously, so they're like release the house and then they you know, they caught him.

02:16:25.000 They get enough evidence that they can raid this guy's house, and so when they raid this guy's house, they find like a whole manufacturing thing.

02:16:31.000 He's got dirt and water.

02:16:32.000 He's rubbing it on the labels.

02:16:33.000 He's like making the labels old and that's hilarious.

02:16:36.000 He's reusing old labels from wine that he had bought somewhere else and re-corking it and sealing it.

02:16:42.000 Oh, total scumbag.

02:16:45.000 And he sold millions of dollars worth of like figures wine to all these dorks that are like these dorks.

02:16:52.000 Yeah, and they're all, oh, I spent this much on this.

02:16:56.000 Yeah, it has um, an essence of tannin.

02:16:59.000 There's a, a woody, a woody aftertaste, almost chocolate.

02:17:02.000 Oh, I tasted chocolate.

02:17:04.000 I wish who caught him was a Somme, like someone who was actually like, no, this tastes like shit and like i'd be like, oh, it's real, like there is one Somonye in that documentary that these other guys were like sniffing it, going. 0.95

02:17:15.000 This is this, is the real stuff, is it?

02:17:16.000 The other guy gets it, he goes, no, this is crap.

02:17:18.000 What is this shit?

02:17:19.000 And the, which is like a huge insult to the other fellows, like oh, I don't, and they don't want to say they got duped.

02:17:19.000 I love that.

02:17:26.000 No no no, this is the best, the best grapes during the best year.

02:17:31.000 I have it.

02:17:32.000 I have the grapes.

02:17:33.000 Can't you taste the hint of Costco?

02:17:36.000 You don't taste the box on this wine taste trade-o-joke.

02:17:40.000 That's hilarious.

02:17:42.000 What a weird thing.

02:17:43.000 It's a weird thing man, but it's a fascinating documentary because it shows you what that thing really is.

02:17:48.000 It's like this weird club that they all belong to where they get real nerdy Nerdy about a flavor that's not that good.

02:17:55.000 Good.

02:17:56.000 But you want the finest, so you believe.

02:17:56.000 It's not that bad.

02:17:58.000 The best wine is not nearly as good as Kool-Aid.

02:18:02.000 That's far superior to the best wine ever.

02:18:07.000 Yeah, but it's not exclusive.

02:18:08.000 You know, it's Kool-Aid.

02:18:09.000 But it's like such a weird thing that some of it is so expensive and so revered that they have auctions for it.

02:18:16.000 The autograph world is full of a bunch of bullcrap like that.

02:18:19.000 Like, if you collect athletes' autographs and stuff, I'm friends with the guys at Icon Autograph in San Diego or whatever.

02:18:26.000 And they're great guys, but like, I'll send them a photo of a thing and be like, this is selling at this like, you know, hotel lobby.

02:18:32.000 So they have those, you know, when you walk in, it'll be like a photo of Taylor Swift framed, and it's just like cut her autograph on it.

02:18:38.000 It's selling for like $5,000 or whatever.

02:18:41.000 And I sent him a thing because the item was so unique that I was like, this is pretty special.

02:18:46.000 It was a baseball autographed by Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe.

02:18:51.000 To have both those names like on the baseball, I was like, there's no way this is at a silent auction right now for like a thousand bucks.

02:18:58.000 I sent it to my autograph guy and he goes, dude, there's like one of those in the world and it sold at auction for like millions or whatever.

02:19:05.000 So this guy, just somebody, like the guy you're describing putting dirt on the thought he could pull one over and probably did.

02:19:12.000 I mean, I didn't go whistleblow or anything, but like he definitely does.

02:19:16.000 Someone just wrote Joe DiMaggio on a baseball in Marilyn Monroe and put it in a fancy case.

02:19:22.000 And, you know, some schmuck has that right now in his living room telling everybody about those ball he bought.

02:19:27.000 I committed suicide a week after the story went viral over the summer.

02:19:30.000 Oh my God.

02:19:30.000 He admitted to counterfeiting over $350 million in gear after police raid warehouses and then he killed himself.

02:19:37.000 The dealer says the scheme grew to be an addiction.

02:19:39.000 Wow.

02:19:40.000 What did he?

02:19:42.000 All sorts of fake autographs.

02:19:43.000 Oh my gosh.

02:19:43.000 Oh yeah.

02:19:46.000 All sorts of bullshit.

02:19:47.000 So of course there's a lot of that.

02:19:49.000 Oh, dude, tons of it.

02:19:50.000 Yeah.

02:19:51.000 People repacking things.

02:19:53.000 You're always going to have that.

02:19:53.000 Of course.

02:19:54.000 That's wild.

02:19:55.000 Yeah.

02:19:56.000 It's just what?

02:19:57.000 I guess people's risk reward is fascinating to me too.

02:20:00.000 Like, you know about the Chauncey Phillips thing?

02:20:02.000 What's that?

02:20:03.000 He was the head coach.

02:20:05.000 He's a Hall of Fame.

02:20:06.000 Oh, this is the NBA thing.

02:20:07.000 Yes.

02:20:08.000 Hall of Famer.

02:20:09.000 The money scam.

02:20:10.000 And then he's the coach of the Portland Trailblazers.

02:20:12.000 So you have money coming in.

02:20:14.000 You're not desperate.

02:20:16.000 And then you're going to risk your entire reputation.

02:20:19.000 You're going to risk your entire bank account by doing gambling and doing all this dumb shit.

02:20:27.000 I'm like, why would like at that point you think no more risks?

02:20:30.000 Like you're pretty good.

02:20:32.000 Why do corruption?

02:20:33.000 Why have all this gambling nonsense?

02:20:36.000 It makes no sense to me.

02:20:38.000 I get it if my friend does it who's broke and is like, dude, I had to pull some bullshit.

02:20:42.000 You know, times are tough.

02:20:43.000 This guy's the head coach for the Portland Trailblazers.

02:20:46.000 I think people get addicted to just pulling things off.

02:20:46.000 What are you doing?

02:20:49.000 That's what that one was saying: is that this guy said he was like, wow.

02:20:53.000 Well, people are nuts, man.

02:20:54.000 Like, gambling addiction is a weird one, man.

02:20:57.000 And I think some of those guys, maybe they get a bunch of losses and then they want to get it back by rigging a game.

02:21:03.000 You know what I mean?

02:21:04.000 But they want to make it like so they definitely are going to win and they feel funny.

02:21:08.000 It's like fun to get over.

02:21:09.000 Like you rigged a game.

02:21:11.000 Yeah.

02:21:11.000 Tricked them.

02:21:12.000 Yeah.

02:21:12.000 There's two baseball players for the Cleveland Indians right now.

02:21:15.000 They bring that video where he accidentally struck people out and he's pissed.

02:21:18.000 He used to go strike out.

02:21:18.000 Yeah.

02:21:19.000 He's like, fuck these two players.

02:21:21.000 They'll never be.

02:21:21.000 He's supposed to throw balls.

02:21:23.000 Yeah, for $5,000 a pitch, which is, you know, kind of chump change to guys who make $30 million a year.

02:21:29.000 You know, like, that's not like, that's good money for me, but that's not good money for these guys.

02:21:34.000 And they're like supposed to throw a ball at a certain time or walk a player.

02:21:37.000 Like, they were doing these different things.

02:21:39.000 And they caught him.

02:21:40.000 You know, these guys.

02:21:42.000 So the prop bets thing is the weird one, right?

02:21:44.000 Yeah.

02:21:44.000 And that's what makes it weird that like draft kings and all these things are such a big part of sports now.

02:21:49.000 Right, because you're just going to have organized criminals that get involved in that and exploit it.

02:21:53.000 There's a UFC problem right now.

02:21:55.000 Oh, really?

02:21:55.000 Yeah, a UFC fight.

02:21:58.000 So this was a story.

02:21:59.000 A lot of the UFC has an organization.

02:22:01.000 I don't know what organization they use.

02:22:03.000 Maybe you could find out, Jamie.

02:22:05.000 That monitors unusual betting activity in any fight.

02:22:10.000 So the moment there's any unusual betting activity, they contact the UFC.

02:22:14.000 The UFC contacts this fighter.

02:22:16.000 It says, hey.

02:22:17.000 You're the favorite to win this fight.

02:22:18.000 There's a lot of unusual betting activity on you to lose.

02:22:22.000 Like, are you okay?

02:22:23.000 Is everything fine?

02:22:23.000 Are you injured?

02:22:24.000 No.

02:22:25.000 I'm going to kill this fucking guy.

02:22:25.000 No, I'm fine.

02:22:27.000 Has anybody contacted you about this fight?

02:22:27.000 Okay.

02:22:30.000 No.

02:22:31.000 So he goes out, loses in the first round, gets submitted, rear-naked choke, doesn't look good.

02:22:37.000 Immediately, the UFC says we called the FBI.

02:22:40.000 So now, apparently, there's an investigation of many fights.

02:22:44.000 Right.

02:22:45.000 And there's a web, it seems like, of people that have contacted fighters and said, I will give you X amount of dollars if you lose this fight.

02:22:55.000 Yeah.

02:22:56.000 And a bunch of people have said no to it and publicly talked about how they said no to it.

02:23:00.000 You know, really good fighters and even went on to lose the fight, you know, unfortunately, and didn't get the money, but were open about it.

02:23:11.000 Yeah.

02:23:12.000 So it's one, like Patchy Mix, who was Bellator champion, came over to the UFC, and he said that someone, I think he said somebody offered him $70,000 or something like that to lose a fight.

02:23:24.000 Something crazy.

02:23:25.000 I might be wrong if it was him that said that number.

02:23:28.000 It might have been someone else.

02:23:29.000 But so they're offering dudes like a big pile of cash to lose to a fighter that they might have losed might lose to him anyway.

02:23:36.000 Right.

02:23:36.000 You know, like it's probably a tight matchup anyway.

02:23:39.000 But if you definitely lose, so what do you do?

02:23:41.000 You don't fight as hard.

02:23:42.000 You make mistakes.

02:23:43.000 You do something stupid.

02:23:45.000 You know, you let them take you back.

02:23:47.000 You get choked out.

02:23:48.000 And if you're good at defense, you might be able to, as long as you're getting submitted, you're probably not going to get hurt that bad.

02:23:54.000 And you'll be able to make an extra 70 grand.

02:23:56.000 When you might be getting 10,000 to fight, right?

02:23:59.000 So now all of a sudden you got 80 grand.

02:24:02.000 I don't agree with it, obviously.

02:24:04.000 I think it's fucking terrible.

02:24:07.000 Are you allowed to bet on yourself to win?

02:24:09.000 Is that a thing?

02:24:11.000 Well, I know fighters have in the past.

02:24:13.000 Because I think UFC fighters right now are not capable of betting on the UFC.

02:24:20.000 I think it's not just the fighters, but the commentators, the coaches, referees, everybody.

02:24:27.000 No one's supposed to be betting on the UFC because there was another betting scandal.

02:24:32.000 And so the other betting scandal was there's this guy who is a active MMA fighter and a really good coach.

02:24:39.000 And he got accused of using this Discord server.

02:24:42.000 And they were running like a gambling Discord server.

02:24:45.000 And a bunch of money came in on this dude to lose in the first round.

02:24:49.000 And he went out there and he lost in the first round.

02:24:51.000 And the word was that he was hurt and that it had been expressed to these people, bet against him because he's going to lose in the first round.

02:24:58.000 And a lot of people made money.

02:25:00.000 So this guy gets investigated.

02:25:02.000 The UFC bans him.

02:25:04.000 I don't know what the status of his case is, but they also banned the fighters that were training out of that gym.

02:25:13.000 I think I don't know if this guy, see if this guy who just got in trouble, if he was connected to that gym, the gym is James Krause's gym.

02:25:25.000 Yeah, because I was fine with it.

02:25:27.000 If they want to bet to win, you're like, I love that.

02:25:29.000 Right.

02:25:29.000 I love that, too.

02:25:30.000 The thing is...

02:25:32.000 Easy to trace.

02:25:33.000 When you were talking about prop bets and stuff like that, lose in the first round.

02:25:37.000 You could just definitely lose in the first round and everybody makes $100,000.

02:25:41.000 You know what I mean?

02:25:42.000 Some people are going to take that.

02:25:43.000 Right.

02:25:44.000 Especially if a guy is like pretty good, but realistically is not going to be a world champion.

02:25:50.000 You know, maybe you're 32, maybe you've got a lot of fucking...

02:25:53.000 Maybe you're Mike Tyson fighting Jake Paul.

02:25:55.000 You might have alimony you have to pay off.

02:25:57.000 You might have child support you have to pay off.

02:25:59.000 You're in debt, and that's why you're fighting in the first place.

02:26:01.000 And someone comes along and you're out of the hole now.

02:26:04.000 You're going to get $100,000 to throw, and they're just going to bet a ton of loot on you.

02:26:09.000 Right.

02:26:10.000 And they're going to hope nobody notices.

02:26:12.000 But I guess now people are noticing it.

02:26:14.000 And you can kind of see if someone's not fighting back.

02:26:17.000 And that was the thing about this fight.

02:26:19.000 I got to see it, obviously, when I knew the controversy.

02:26:23.000 I didn't see it live.

02:26:26.000 So I didn't have fresh eyes.

02:26:27.000 I didn't see it live and go, God, why is that guy fighting off the choke so badly?

02:26:31.000 There's a bunch of NBA guys.

02:26:33.000 Some Instagram account is really good.

02:26:35.000 He found it.

02:26:36.000 Excuse me.

02:26:36.000 Just dry throat.

02:26:37.000 How do you sip of water?

02:26:38.000 I got nothing.

02:26:39.000 Why do you sip of water?

02:26:40.000 He was pretty cool.

02:26:40.000 Yes.

02:26:41.000 We have previously coached by James Cross.

02:26:43.000 Come on, Waterloo.

02:26:45.000 He was previously coached by James Cross.

02:26:45.000 Say that again, Jim?

02:26:47.000 Okay.

02:26:48.000 So this guy who allegedly threw this fight was also coached by this guy who was involved in the betting scandal.

02:26:57.000 That's why computers are good.

02:26:59.000 It's those kind of little things where you can find that like, oh, this is on you.

02:27:02.000 Like computers help in that way for sure.

02:27:04.000 That's a tangled web if you're involved with people that are making money gambling and not on the square.

02:27:10.000 So the thing is, if you're just gambling on the square, if you just watch a fight like Pereira versus Ankhalaev 2 and you say, I like Pereira to get that title back.

02:27:19.000 I'm going to fucking, I'm going to put my money where my mouth is.

02:27:21.000 I'm putting too large, too large on Pohoton.

02:27:24.000 Let's go.

02:27:25.000 That's totally fine.

02:27:27.000 And fun.

02:27:28.000 But when it gets to you have a prelim fighter and he's only making 10 grand and someone offers him, you're going to get choked in the first round.

02:27:28.000 Yeah.

02:27:37.000 And he's like, okay, I got it.

02:27:38.000 I got it.

02:27:39.000 I got it.

02:27:40.000 And the opponent probably doesn't even know.

02:27:42.000 So this guy has to figure out a way to give this guy back.

02:27:45.000 Oh, that's kind of funny.

02:27:45.000 Right.

02:27:46.000 He's like leading him.

02:27:48.000 Yeah, you have to give it to him.

02:27:49.000 You have to give it to him.

02:27:51.000 There's been fights like that.

02:27:53.000 There's been fixed fights for sure.

02:27:55.000 Has to be.

02:27:55.000 Oh, for sure.

02:27:56.000 Especially in boxing.

02:27:58.000 Oh, it's weird.

02:27:59.000 Because those boxers are, their lives are so tough. 0.98

02:28:02.000 Well, they've always done that throughout history.

02:28:05.000 Guys have taken dives.

02:28:07.000 You know, especially if you weren't connected enough.

02:28:09.000 You know, if you were a guy that wasn't with a big-time manager who had a big-time lawyer and probably mob ties.

02:28:15.000 Mob ties, yeah.

02:28:16.000 They all had mob ties.

02:28:17.000 You had to have mob ties.

02:28:18.000 I'm going to lose a fight if the whole mob's going to kill my wife or something. 1.00

02:28:21.000 Bro, you don't think Rocky Marciano had mob ties?

02:28:24.000 For sure.

02:28:24.000 If you're the heavyweight champion of the world and you're Italian, all the mobsters want to be your friend.

02:28:28.000 And you're a boxer?

02:28:29.000 They love that.

02:28:30.000 Flatlining everybody.

02:28:32.000 It's funny to find out how many of these old guys didn't even like the sports.

02:28:35.000 They just liked all the money part of it.

02:28:37.000 Well, Marciano talked about it like that.

02:28:38.000 Like it's just my job.

02:28:40.000 But that guy was the freakiest training person I've ever heard of in boxing.

02:28:46.000 Like the freakiest training regiment.

02:28:48.000 It was crazy.

02:28:50.000 Like part of what made Marciano so good was that he never got tired because he had this insane work ethic.

02:28:58.000 And he lost one fight when he was younger, I think in the amateurs, because he got tired.

02:29:02.000 And he decided after that fight, he was never going to lose a fight ever because he got tired.

02:29:06.000 So he just put himself through this fucking insane routine where he would get up in the morning before any training.

02:29:12.000 He would run 10 miles.

02:29:13.000 He would do his training.

02:29:14.000 He would hit the heavy bag for hours.

02:29:16.000 Then he would swim miles in the lake after training.

02:29:19.000 He would spar 100 rounds a week.

02:29:22.000 He would just get to the point where, you know, we're talking about redlining?

02:29:24.000 Yeah.

02:29:25.000 And he did the same thing.

02:29:25.000 He redlined to the point where he couldn't do it anymore, and then he retired undefeated.

02:29:29.000 But does that red line, that kind of thing that he was doing, you can't do forever.

02:29:34.000 And I watched this video about it the other day.

02:29:35.000 I'm like, this is bananas.

02:29:37.000 Just to watch that guy's work ethic.

02:29:39.000 And back when nobody had anything.

02:29:42.000 You have no creatine.

02:29:43.000 There's no vitamins.

02:29:45.000 You know what I think about when you say the redlining thing? 0.75

02:29:48.000 And maybe it's just because I'm influenced by his, like, the videos he posts and the things he does.

02:29:53.000 But every time I know Michael Chandler, and like every time I see this guy, like he's like, oh, you're in Arizona?

02:29:59.000 Like, swing by the gym.

02:30:00.000 And he's like, throwing the thing again.

02:30:02.000 Like, he's just always in this.

02:30:04.000 I'm going to shoot a TV show tomorrow, but I got to work out it.

02:30:07.000 Like, he's always so tremendous disciplined.

02:30:11.000 Full on.

02:30:12.000 Yeah.

02:30:12.000 Like, I've never seen him going, oh, I'm taking a month off, or we're going to the pool.

02:30:16.000 That's why he's still elite at 38.

02:30:19.000 I believe he's 38 now, right?

02:30:21.000 How old is Michael Chandler?

02:30:22.000 I believe he's 38.

02:30:24.000 But that's why he's so elite.

02:30:25.000 He's never gotten out of shape.

02:30:26.000 39.

02:30:27.000 Wow.

02:30:28.000 Because that guy, people don't even know about the wars that he got in with Eddie Alvarez when they were at Bellator.

02:30:28.000 39.

02:30:35.000 Bellator.

02:30:36.000 That's what I met him as Bellator.

02:30:37.000 One of the greatest fights in MMA history went unseen by a giant chunk of MMA fans because they didn't pay attention to Bellator.

02:30:47.000 But this, the Eddie Alvarez, Michael Chandler fights in Bellator were nuts.

02:30:52.000 Really?

02:30:52.000 I mean, nuts.

02:30:54.000 Play a clip of it.

02:30:55.000 I mean, nuts.

02:30:56.000 Like from the opening bell, two mad fucking roosters just attacking each other.

02:31:04.000 It is, it's so wild.

02:31:05.000 Were those Bellator guys redlining because they just wanted to get to UFC?

02:31:08.000 Like they're still climbing the ladder.

02:31:10.000 They're still in the hunt.

02:31:11.000 Well, they were just, these guys just redlined their entire career.

02:31:13.000 Eddie Alvarez went on to become a UFC lightweight champion when he beat Jafael Dosanjos.

02:31:20.000 Huge upset.

02:31:20.000 Eddie Alvarez is a fucking beast.

02:31:23.000 But these two guys from the opening of the first fucking seconds of the fight, look, this is the beginning of the fight.

02:31:30.000 Chandler's just throwing himself at him, just sprinting at him.

02:31:34.000 Drops him.

02:31:35.000 Bro, drops him again.

02:31:37.000 Look at this.

02:31:37.000 It's crazy.

02:31:38.000 Alvarez survived somehow.

02:31:40.000 And he fires back.

02:31:41.000 Bro, these fights are nuts.

02:31:43.000 The fights, I think they had, I know they definitely had two.

02:31:47.000 I don't think they had three.

02:31:48.000 But the two fights that they had together were fucking insane.

02:31:52.000 I mean, the entire pace of the fight was fought like this.

02:31:56.000 He's awesome, dude.

02:31:57.000 And they're really evenly matched.

02:31:59.000 It was a really good match.

02:32:01.000 Alvarez looks a little bigger than him.

02:32:03.000 But Chandler's a fucking tank, dude.

02:32:04.000 Dude, Chandler's the best.

02:32:05.000 And he's got crazy wrestler power from the legs, you know.

02:32:08.000 So when he leaps at you, like when he knocked out Dan Hooker, he lunges at you like he's shooting a double and throws a left hook at the same time.

02:32:17.000 When he knocked out Dan Hooker in his UFC debut, who is a really respectable MMA fighter, a very good fighter, but he just got caught.

02:32:26.000 Find that one, Jamie.

02:32:27.000 Find Michael Chandler KO's Dan Hooker because this was his UFC debut.

02:32:33.000 And again, Dan Hooker is like an elite fighter, which is one of the reasons why it was so impressive.

02:32:39.000 And the fight starts out, and Chandler does the same fucking, this is his first fight in the UFC, the same shit he did in Bellator.

02:32:45.000 He just charges forward.

02:32:47.000 I love it.

02:32:48.000 I mean, this is how he always fights.

02:32:50.000 It's do or die.

02:32:51.000 That's why this guy's lost a ton of times, but he's still a huge fan favorite.

02:32:55.000 It's because you know you're going to see this.

02:32:58.000 I mean, he's just throwing bombs.

02:33:01.000 Oh, big kick.

02:33:04.000 He's just so dangerous, man.

02:33:06.000 Because everything is 100%.

02:33:15.000 That was just one, two.

02:33:18.000 Here comes.

02:33:20.000 And look at the immediate.

02:33:21.000 Oh! 0.60

02:33:22.000 Big knockdown for Michael Chandler!

02:33:24.000 Big right hand.

02:33:25.000 Dan's hurt.

02:33:26.000 Dan, bro.

02:33:27.000 Oh my God.

02:33:28.000 It's over.

02:33:29.000 Bro.

02:33:30.000 That's a wrap, bro.

02:33:32.000 And then he does a backflip off the top of the cage.

02:33:32.000 He's in the deep hit.

02:33:36.000 Bro, that's a freak.

02:33:37.000 Dude.

02:33:38.000 Freak athlete.

02:33:39.000 Met him, so I was doing a prank show for MTV called Money from Strangers, which was kind of like Impractical Jokers, but way darker.

02:33:46.000 Like, we were like a lot edgier before money or before Impractical Jokers.

02:33:51.000 And so, they'd always send me to like MTV movie awards or any kind of those things.

02:33:55.000 And I was like, I don't know, I live in New York.

02:33:57.000 They're going to send a car.

02:33:58.000 I get to go on a red carpet, whatever.

02:34:00.000 I'll drink.

02:34:01.000 I'll make it fun.

02:34:02.000 And they happened to be behind me.

02:34:03.000 The Bellator guys happened to be the next guys in the red carpet line.

02:34:07.000 And the way the red carpet works is no one cares about us at all.

02:34:10.000 They're just waiting to get like Miley Cyrus or Beyonce or whoever the hell it is.

02:34:14.000 So, like, we're basically the photos they're taking are just something we're going to save off the internet because no one gives a shit. 0.57

02:34:20.000 They were like all Bellador guys.

02:34:22.000 So, people at this movie awards don't necessarily care.

02:34:26.000 These guys are behind me, and they're like, This guy's fun because I'm making all these jokes and like goofing around.

02:34:31.000 And I was already kind of like buzzed up.

02:34:32.000 And so, then that Michael Chandler and these two other like Bellator guys, uh, Brog the Predator, you know, he is no, he was a Bellator guy too, a Cleveland guy.

02:34:41.000 Okay, big guy, he's awesome too.

02:34:42.000 But, anyways, these three guys, and they were like, This is kind of dumb.

02:34:45.000 And I was like, Yeah, this shit's kind of gay. 0.98

02:34:47.000 I don't want to be here, you know.

02:34:48.000 And then they were like, Let's just go drink.

02:34:50.000 And so, we just drank and met people and hung out.

02:34:53.000 And they're like, Want to get subway?

02:34:54.000 And we got in a car and got and got subway and just hung out with these dudes all night.

02:34:57.000 And I've been pals with them ever since.

02:34:59.000 Yeah, but it's like I didn't really know what they did.

02:34:59.000 Oh, that's awesome.

02:35:02.000 I just kind of knew that they were like fighter guys.

02:35:05.000 And so, like, I thought they were in UFC at that time, and they weren't.

02:35:08.000 They were in whatever was on that network.

02:35:10.000 I was paying really well.

02:35:11.000 And Bellator had a pretty good following for a while.

02:35:15.000 I mean, he was doing really well.

02:35:16.000 There were some real elite fighters out of Bellator, and a lot of guys, like, they came over to the UFC because they became famous in Bellator.

02:35:24.000 Like, Ben Askren, he came over from Bellator.

02:35:27.000 He actually did a stint at one FC before he came to UFC eventually.

02:35:31.000 But there's a lot of guys that never came over, you know?

02:35:34.000 Yes, unfortunately.

02:35:35.000 Like Douglas Lima.

02:35:36.000 Douglas Lima at one point in time was one of the best welterweights alive.

02:35:40.000 And, you know, he was the Bellator champion.

02:35:42.000 He's like the only guy that's ever knocked out Michael Venom Page.

02:35:46.000 Do they have like an MMA Hall of Fame?

02:35:49.000 Yes, there's a UFC Hall of Fame.

02:35:51.000 And I think there's an MMA one too, maybe.

02:35:53.000 The MMA Awards.

02:35:54.000 I don't know.

02:35:55.000 I don't know.

02:35:56.000 There's a UFC Hall of Fame, though.

02:35:57.000 But that's UFC guys.

02:35:57.000 Yeah.

02:35:58.000 I know.

02:35:59.000 Yeah, it sucks.

02:36:00.000 I know.

02:36:01.000 Some guys, they wait too long in these other organizations, unfortunately.

02:36:06.000 And the reality of the sport is, you know, there's a bunch of different organizations you can compete for.

02:36:12.000 And I think if the PFL is paying you more money, go to the PFL.

02:36:15.000 Do whatever you want to do.

02:36:17.000 But if you really want to be the world champion, you have to be the UFC champion.

02:36:22.000 That's just how it is right now.

02:36:23.000 It's like major league business.

02:36:25.000 It's like in boxing.

02:36:26.000 If you're the undisputed champion, you have all belts, then you're Terence Crawford.

02:36:30.000 But if you're like a WBA champion and there's also a WBC champion and an IBF champion, that shit's too confusing to the average person.

02:36:38.000 And for most people, the UFC is for good or for bad.

02:36:43.000 I'm just saying, that's just how most people think of it.

02:36:46.000 That's how I probably annoyed them that night because I was like, oh, you guys are UFC guys?

02:36:49.000 And they're like, we're Bellator.

02:36:51.000 Yeah.

02:36:51.000 You don't go looking for cotton swabs.

02:36:53.000 You go buy Q-tips.

02:36:54.000 You look for Q-tips.

02:36:55.000 That's what it is.

02:36:56.000 You know, just watching pro football.

02:36:58.000 You're watching the fucking NFL.

02:36:59.000 Absolutely.

02:37:00.000 And if you're so bored, you're watching the XFL.

02:37:02.000 You start Canadian football league.

02:37:04.000 You start going, I got to go to the gun range or something.

02:37:06.000 I got to clear my head.

02:37:07.000 Yeah, what happened?

02:37:09.000 I got to do something different.

02:37:11.000 But I feel like that's just for better or for worse.

02:37:14.000 It's just how it is.

02:37:15.000 That's how it is in America.

02:37:16.000 We don't have a lot of attention span.

02:37:18.000 And if it's going to be elite fighting, it's got to be there's like one organization that we follow.

02:37:22.000 Sorry.

02:37:23.000 And I follow them all.

02:37:23.000 Yeah.

02:37:25.000 I follow everything.

02:37:26.000 I try to pay as much attention to Muay Thai as I do to boxing as I do to wrestling and jiu-jitsu tournaments.

02:37:32.000 I try to pay attention to everything.

02:37:33.000 Just because I want to know who's coming up, who's good, what's new, what different things are people trying that they've never done before.

02:37:40.000 Did you see Holly Holm did wrestling? 0.55

02:37:42.000 Bro, she's not fucking athletic. 1.00

02:37:44.000 Dude, she's the best.

02:37:45.000 LA's an athlete. 0.83

02:37:46.000 After her fights, Mike Winklejohn used to stand on his hands and do a backflip after all of her fights.

02:37:53.000 It's amazing.

02:37:54.000 See if you can find that.

02:37:54.000 It's crazy.

02:37:55.000 She would win, and then he was backflip.

02:37:57.000 She was just at a place to watch wrestling. 0.99

02:37:59.000 And then there was something she could sign up for.

02:38:01.000 And she's like, fuck it.

02:38:02.000 I'll do it.

02:38:03.000 Bro, LA's face.

02:38:04.000 And they just draw.

02:38:05.000 Because she's famous.

02:38:05.000 And they were like, really?

02:38:06.000 So they were like, we'll let you be part of it.

02:38:08.000 She goes, sure.

02:38:09.000 And she did.

02:38:09.000 And she was just like, the second he said her name, everyone cheered.

02:38:12.000 It was not like a huge, grandiose plan thing.

02:38:14.000 There was no contract.

02:38:15.000 There was no anything.

02:38:16.000 She just did it.

02:38:17.000 It was like this year.

02:38:18.000 She was texting me about it.

02:38:19.000 I go, what?

02:38:20.000 Like, did they go crazy?

02:38:21.000 And she's like, no.

02:38:22.000 I mean, like, it was just fun.

02:38:23.000 It was a fun thing.

02:38:24.000 I thought, why not?

02:38:25.000 We'll show that again.

02:38:25.000 That's the thing.

02:38:26.000 Watch that.

02:38:26.000 She's the best.

02:38:27.000 Watch how they did this.

02:38:29.000 Yeah.

02:38:31.000 So cool.

02:38:32.000 That was the thing they would do after all her fights.

02:38:34.000 She got a fucking back muscle, son. 0.62

02:38:38.000 That's crazy.

02:38:39.000 Yeah, what'd she say?

02:38:39.000 Oh, she said the guy, like her manager, whoever she asked about it briefly was like, he was like, well, what if you get hurt?

02:38:45.000 And her, it's great.

02:38:48.000 She goes, yeah, but what if I win?

02:38:50.000 And I was like, what a great response.

02:38:52.000 And he was like, fuck it, let her do it. 0.95

02:38:53.000 And I was like, that is the coolest thing.

02:38:53.000 And so she did it.

02:38:55.000 That's why she's multi-sport martial arts champion. 1.00

02:39:00.000 She was a champion in kickboxing.

02:39:00.000 She's the best.

02:39:02.000 You know, she had a champion in boxing, women's boxing, MMA. 1.00

02:39:07.000 She did the full trifecta.

02:39:09.000 She's the best.

02:39:09.000 Yeah.

02:39:10.000 She's kind of crazy. 0.90

02:39:11.000 And she's a really nice lady, too. 0.54

02:39:12.000 That's what I like about her.

02:39:13.000 Yeah, she's cool.

02:39:14.000 She's a sweetheart.

02:39:14.000 I don't know a lot of fighters.

02:39:16.000 I named all the fighters I know.

02:39:17.000 Michael Chandler and Holly Holmes.

02:39:18.000 That Holly Holm fight with Ronda Rousey was nuts.

02:39:21.000 That was in Australia.

02:39:22.000 It was a huge crowd.

02:39:23.000 It's like a massive arena, man.

02:39:26.000 And when she landed that head kick, and you realize that Rhonda was out, and then she's hammer-fisting everyone. 0.95

02:39:32.000 Yeah.

02:39:32.000 It just didn't even.

02:39:33.000 It was like when Mike Tyson got beat.

02:39:35.000 Remember when Mike Tyson?

02:39:36.000 You were too young.

02:39:37.000 But when I was a kid.

02:39:38.000 Buster Douglas.

02:39:38.000 When Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson.

02:39:41.000 I saw it.

02:39:42.000 I heard about it.

02:39:43.000 I didn't watch it.

02:39:44.000 I saw a tape of it.

02:39:45.000 And I still thought he was going to get up.

02:39:48.000 He knew the outcome.

02:39:49.000 I was like, he gets up.

02:39:50.000 He doesn't lose.

02:39:50.000 There's no way.

02:39:51.000 There's no way.

02:39:52.000 No, I remember that for sure because Mike Tyson was larger than life.

02:39:57.000 And he was so one of those celebrities that you knew everything he was doing.

02:40:01.000 Stars shined really brightly back then.

02:40:03.000 There was like Michael Jackson.

02:40:04.000 You knew Michael Jordan.

02:40:05.000 You knew Michael Jackson.

02:40:06.000 You knew they would go out.

02:40:08.000 Yeah.

02:40:09.000 They would go to places and people.

02:40:11.000 Big deal.

02:40:12.000 Yeah.

02:40:12.000 Mike Tyson.

02:40:13.000 I remember being in the kingdom watching a baseball game.

02:40:15.000 It was the same night.

02:40:16.000 I was a little boy.

02:40:17.000 And they put on the screen that Mike Tyson was disqualified for biting Evander Holyfield's ear.

02:40:22.000 And the whole stadium reacted.

02:40:24.000 Like, I mean, like, they didn't interrupt a baseball game, but they put it up there because the news was so large.

02:40:29.000 Like, it was a very big deal.

02:40:31.000 Bro, he bit him twice.

02:40:32.000 That was crazy.

02:40:34.000 I watched the first fight today.

02:40:36.000 I watched the first Evander Holyfield.

02:40:39.000 Why'd you watch it today?

02:40:40.000 I just felt like watching it.

02:40:41.000 I love that.

02:40:42.000 I do that.

02:40:42.000 Like, when I'm in the gym, I'll pick an old fight and I'll put it on.

02:40:46.000 And I put on that fight.

02:40:47.000 I was like, wow, that was a crazy fight.

02:40:49.000 I can't work out unless David Goggins is calling me a pussy in my headset.

02:40:53.000 That's all I listen to.

02:40:54.000 You don't know me, son?

02:40:55.000 Dude, it's the best.

02:40:56.000 Every time I'm working, I was at Equinox this morning.

02:40:58.000 I had David Goggins in my thing, just going, you're a piece of shit.

02:41:02.000 You can do better, Jeff.

02:41:03.000 You can be bigger.

02:41:05.000 Goggins is the best.

02:41:07.000 That's what I listened to.

02:41:08.000 Or those kind of like YouTube things where they compile.

02:41:11.000 You know, it's like just all motivation stuff with music over.

02:41:14.000 You don't seem like a guy who needs motivation.

02:41:16.000 Just do it for fun.

02:41:17.000 I like it.

02:41:17.000 Yeah, and it keeps me in the mindset.

02:41:19.000 I always channel all of it back to like stand-up comedy, you know, because I'm working towards something.

02:41:24.000 I'm in the hunt.

02:41:25.000 I'm climbing.

02:41:26.000 And so, like, they could be talking about a battle and war.

02:41:29.000 And I'm still like, yep, that's what I'm, what's next?

02:41:32.000 I'm gonna, yeah, I'm climbing, you know, I'm still hungry.

02:41:35.000 Yeah, that's a fun time.

02:41:36.000 It's a fun thing to do.

02:41:37.000 Yeah.

02:41:38.000 You know, the fact that you get to do it.

02:41:40.000 Well, and also, like, otherwise I just sleep till noon or sleep till one, you know?

02:41:44.000 But, like, if I have that, I'm like, no, I got to get up and write, or I got to get up and, you know.

02:41:48.000 Here's the question.

02:41:49.000 You, you're doing this, obviously, and you're doing this for the love of the thing.

02:41:53.000 And you said that if you didn't need money and you didn't even get paid money, you would still do it.

02:41:57.000 And I think the same way.

02:41:58.000 I would do it too.

02:42:00.000 But what do you think about the idea of universal basic income?

02:42:04.000 Because this is something that is being discussed with automation and with AI.

02:42:08.000 And we were having a conversation about the other day with Elon, and he was saying that he thinks that AI can generate so much productivity that you could have universal high income.

02:42:20.000 And then I went, wait, okay.

02:42:23.000 Am I, are we married to this idea that everything that you do in life, you have to be doing just for money?

02:42:31.000 Because that's what it is now.

02:42:32.000 If you're a professional, you're doing it for money.

02:42:34.000 If you're a professional podcaster, if you're a race car driver, you're doing it for money, right?

02:42:39.000 Why are we married to that? 0.98

02:42:41.000 And if you didn't need money and no one needed money, would you just find a thing you love to do?

02:42:47.000 And would we be able to rewire our brains and still have some feeling of value and of identity and without being attached to an occupation?

02:43:00.000 Like, isn't it possible that we've just tricked ourselves into thinking that the only way to live is to live in a way where everything you're doing, you're doing is for money.

02:43:12.000 And then if it's just everybody does their best at things and enough money is generated so that basically everybody has, like what he was saying, a universal high income.

02:43:23.000 What does that mean?

02:43:24.000 Like, is that a feasible thing?

02:43:26.000 Like, what is AI going to do with production?

02:43:28.000 What is AI going to do with automation, resource extraction?

02:43:31.000 How much money is going to be generated that you're going to be able to literally have the entire population of the country under universal high income?

02:43:39.000 Is that even possible?

02:43:40.000 And if it is, what happens to people's desire?

02:43:44.000 What happens to their dreams?

02:43:46.000 Do they just find a thing like you and I have and do that and not care about money and really be into the thing?

02:43:53.000 Can't that be taught if it's taught to you?

02:43:55.000 If you figured it out and I figured it out, if people have figured it out, they figured out like find a thing you love and you're never going to work again because you're going to love doing it, whether it's building cars or painting or carpentry.

02:44:06.000 If you really fucking love doing it, you do it because you love it.

02:44:09.000 Wouldn't that be a better way to live?

02:44:12.000 I know, I know.

02:44:13.000 You can't do it.

02:44:14.000 I know.

02:44:15.000 I know, no, no, no, no.

02:44:16.000 I know, no, no.

02:44:17.000 It wouldn't work.

02:44:17.000 There's too much money in the stock market.

02:44:19.000 I get it.

02:44:20.000 I get it.

02:44:20.000 It wouldn't work.

02:44:21.000 But as a thought experiment, wouldn't that be a way that's possible for people to live if it's possible for you to live that way?

02:44:29.000 If it's possible for me to live that way, if it's possible to find enough people that are willing to do and love to do all the things that we need to keep a society running.

02:44:40.000 I think the point of life, in my opinion, is meaning.

02:44:45.000 So you associate whatever that means to you, right?

02:44:50.000 So like a lot of people find meaning in being a mom or a dad.

02:44:53.000 That gives them enough.

02:44:55.000 They have that meaning.

02:44:57.000 Or they have a hammer to hold on to.

02:45:01.000 They need that meaning.

02:45:03.000 I need comedy.

02:45:04.000 That's why when my brain broke during COVID is because I didn't have comedy.

02:45:08.000 I didn't have an outlet.

02:45:09.000 How far did you go without doing any comedy?

02:45:11.000 I mean, realistically, I only went a few days because I was doing like Zooms and I was doing like underground things for rich guys.

02:45:18.000 I was the first comic.

02:45:19.000 Me and Brad Williams were the first comics to go work in a comedy club with the new COVID restrictions.

02:45:24.000 Because they knew if they called me or Brad, we'd say yes.

02:45:28.000 Like Keith Stubbs called me from Salt Lake and goes, we're thinking about doing a show with all the restrictions and just see if the government shuts us down.

02:45:36.000 Would you be willing to come?

02:45:37.000 And I was like, yes.

02:45:38.000 I didn't even talk about price.

02:45:39.000 I just go, yes.

02:45:40.000 Like, I, because I need it.

02:45:42.000 Now, why do I need it?

02:45:44.000 Because that's where I personally find my meaning.

02:45:47.000 Now, if I maybe was at home and going, man, I'm getting a lot more time with my kids and I'm getting a lot more time with my wife and like things are pretty productive around here.

02:45:57.000 That's where I would have put my meaning.

02:45:58.000 You know, I think like, and it's just where we put it.

02:46:01.000 It's where we kind of put it.

02:46:02.000 And I think, so a lot of people find a lot of value in their jobs that make them the money, but that's, that gives them something to do.

02:46:11.000 Don't you think?

02:46:12.000 Yes, I do think that.

02:46:14.000 But what you're saying about finding meaning, what you're saying about finding meaning and having a family or finding me, yes, for sure.

02:46:24.000 But also, I think the human mind needs activities.

02:46:28.000 Right.

02:46:28.000 I don't think it's just raising children only.

02:46:33.000 I think you should probably have things that you love to do as well just for your own sanity.

02:46:39.000 But if you didn't have to worry about money, you'd still be involved in this pursuit of stand-up comedy because you love it.

02:46:46.000 All the stuff that people do just for money, like the guy who does the fucking septic tanks, that guy's not having a good time.

02:46:51.000 He's smelling other people's shit all day.

02:46:53.000 He's pumping out other people's shit all day.

02:46:55.000 That can't be fun, right?

02:46:56.000 But we need him.

02:46:57.000 Right.

02:46:57.000 We need him until the robots come.

02:46:59.000 And then you don't need him anymore.

02:47:00.000 So this is the point.

02:47:01.000 Like, what does that guy do to find some sort of meaning?

02:47:04.000 He's probably not finding meaning in pulling shit out of people's ground.

02:47:09.000 He's probably would like to do something different.

02:47:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:47:13.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:47:14.000 I mean, I'm so naive that I'm like, no, that guy should be proud of himself.

02:47:17.000 Like, I'm really, I look at plumbers like heroes.

02:47:20.000 Like, I'm like, dude, the guy that like fixed the electrical in my house, I'm like, I love you, dude.

02:47:24.000 Like, whatever I can pay you.

02:47:25.000 Bro, I had a septic problem at my house once.

02:47:28.000 One of my houses in California when I first moved there, and it was so nasty.

02:47:32.000 When I would flush the toilet, the bathtub would fill up, and I was like, what is this?

02:47:37.000 Those are linked?

02:47:38.000 Well, what it was was the septic system.

02:47:38.000 Yeah.

02:47:41.000 There was a pump.

02:47:42.000 I was living on a hill, and the pump would pump it up the hill, the poop water, and then the pump broke.

02:47:49.000 And so they ought to get in there and get the pump out in the poop water and put a new and start.

02:47:55.000 And that guy's my hero.

02:47:57.000 Like that guy.

02:47:58.000 We need that guy.

02:47:59.000 That's a Bud Light commercial.

02:48:00.000 Heal the man.

02:48:01.000 I love you.

02:48:02.000 Twilight cops.

02:48:03.000 Like what you were saying earlier, but the military, the nurses, like they're going to send a robot to fix your poop water.

02:48:07.000 The pump.

02:48:08.000 The robots.

02:48:09.000 People.

02:48:10.000 A robot's going to do it, and it's going to do it perfectly with AI.

02:48:12.000 And you're not going to need a person to get covered in shit water.

02:48:15.000 Okay.

02:48:15.000 And that guy's going to get a lot of money just to sit at home.

02:48:18.000 But then what does he do?

02:48:19.000 Right.

02:48:19.000 That's the thing.

02:48:20.000 Yeah.

02:48:21.000 Because I think a lot of it's going to happen really quickly.

02:48:24.000 This is something that Andrew Yang was talking about years ago.

02:48:29.000 And it was sort of, I agree with him, but it was a little abstract then.

02:48:33.000 And now this was way back, was that 2020 when Andrew Yang was running for president?

02:48:38.000 I've never heard of Andrew Yang.

02:48:40.000 You don't know.

02:48:41.000 What's that?

02:48:42.000 Was it 2016?

02:48:44.000 It might have been 2016.

02:48:44.000 I think so.

02:48:46.000 You never heard of Andrew Yang?

02:48:48.000 Brilliant guy.

02:48:49.000 And had a very good point.

02:48:51.000 Sorry, 2020.

02:48:54.000 Yeah, I didn't think it was that long ago.

02:48:57.000 A great point about automation and that one day automation is going to remove a lot of jobs, including drivers, right?

02:49:06.000 Like you're seeing it with these Wevos. 1.00

02:49:09.000 So there's that is like, that's the first, that's the first sounds.

02:49:13.000 That's the first shot fired across the bow of a crazy war where the robots are going to take all our jobs.

02:49:19.000 Because that is now, you have these Tesla trucks that are automated, and they can, you know, like my car, my Tesla, I just press a button.

02:49:29.000 It does all the driving.

02:49:30.000 It does everything.

02:49:31.000 I don't have to do shit.

02:49:32.000 I can literally just sit there with my hands on the wheel and barely pay attention if I wanted to.

02:49:36.000 I don't do it.

02:49:37.000 I have it, and I don't do it.

02:49:37.000 I never do it either.

02:49:39.000 Yeah, it's nuts.

02:49:41.000 So that's going to be the future.

02:49:42.000 And there's going to be no driving jobs.

02:49:45.000 And okay.

02:49:46.000 And then what about everything else?

02:49:47.000 Well, everything else, manufacturing, it's out the window.

02:49:50.000 Robots are going to do it 24 hours a day.

02:49:51.000 It's going to be more efficient.

02:49:53.000 No unions, no health care, no need for nothing.

02:49:55.000 They're never going to fuck up.

02:49:57.000 Everything's going to be categorized.

02:49:58.000 They have sets, these mining operations in China where everything's automated.

02:50:04.000 There's no people working at all.

02:50:05.000 The trucks are driving.

02:50:07.000 They're getting recharged.

02:50:08.000 They're fucking picking up the coal.

02:50:10.000 They're moving the coal.

02:50:11.000 They're bringing it somewhere else.

02:50:12.000 It's all automated.

02:50:13.000 It's bananas, man.

02:50:14.000 So that's just a massive eration or erasing of jobs.

02:50:19.000 They're just going to go away.

02:50:20.000 Well, the dot-com did that. 0.82

02:50:22.000 Yeah, but I think this is way bigger, dude.

02:50:24.000 I think this is way bigger.

02:50:26.000 I think this happens.

02:50:27.000 And first, everybody's like, oh, this sucks.

02:50:29.000 And then it's like, oh my God, it's not stopping.

02:50:32.000 It's not stopping.

02:50:33.000 It's taking over everything.

02:50:34.000 It's going to be all jobs.

02:50:37.000 There's going to be no more need for lawyers, no more accountants, no more coders. 0.98

02:50:43.000 Like all that stuff's going to be done with AI.

02:50:45.000 It's going to get so weird if you're going to college right now because you could be going to college for something that's absolutely obsolete in three years.

02:50:52.000 Sure.

02:50:53.000 Yeah, well, but so I get that problem.

02:50:58.000 But someone's introducing an idea that they just give money to people for free so they don't because of this?

02:51:04.000 Well, here's the thing.

02:51:04.000 If that becomes something that controls everything, which is really ultimately what it's probably going to do, controls all of our power grid, all of our waste management resources, everything.

02:51:18.000 It's going to control everything.

02:51:19.000 It's going to generate insane amounts of wealth. 0.60

02:51:23.000 But the question is, like, how does it even get distributed?

02:51:25.000 How does that part of it?

02:51:27.000 How does that work?

02:51:28.000 Who's got the money?

02:51:30.000 If you're just giving people money and then they what they're doing.

02:51:32.000 Now, everyone's a trust fund kid in a way.

02:51:35.000 You know, they don't do anything.

02:51:36.000 They just sit around and eat.

02:51:38.000 And what do you get people involved with to occupy their time?

02:51:42.000 You know, do you encourage them to join religious groups?

02:51:45.000 Do you get them to be involved in games?

02:51:48.000 Do we try to give people meaning?

02:51:50.000 Are we all just going to sit around and wait for the robots to just take over and we're going to be the last civilization of real people?

02:51:57.000 100 years from now, they're going to be like, I think I want to do what the robots do.

02:52:02.000 People are like, what?

02:52:03.000 You know, in the old times, you know, people would actually have to do it.

02:52:06.000 And then maybe there'd be like a movement of that, you know?

02:52:09.000 Dude, the Terminator was accurate.

02:52:11.000 Yeah.

02:52:11.000 Oddly accurate.

02:52:14.000 Remember, you remember the first time you saw that movie?

02:52:17.000 Like, this will never happen.

02:52:18.000 I'll tell you a funny story about that Terminator.

02:52:22.000 I was on Mushrooms with my buddy Randy, and he forgot that he was at a long-distance girlfriend.

02:52:27.000 He forgot that he was going to call her.

02:52:29.000 So we just ate, you know, four grams of mushrooms.

02:52:33.000 Like it big, like we just crushed them, right?

02:52:35.000 It was COVID, you know.

02:52:37.000 And we had nowhere to be is the point.

02:52:39.000 So we just went, we're going full journey, you know, we're going to do a bunch.

02:52:42.000 And we eat them.

02:52:43.000 We're sitting there.

02:52:44.000 And then he, he goes, all right, I forgot I was going to call Rachel.

02:52:47.000 And I'm like, all right.

02:52:48.000 But it starts to kick in a little bit.

02:52:50.000 He left Terminator on, and then his gay roommate is like on a first date in the kitchen. 0.99

02:52:55.000 So there's two like cute guys like flirting with each other.

02:52:58.000 And one of them barely knows me and the other one doesn't know anybody in the apartment.

02:53:02.000 And I'm just sitting there watching Terminator.

02:53:04.000 And like, he can't be killed.

02:53:06.000 You know, Terminator.

02:53:07.000 He's like, the bullets are just going through him and then the metal just kind of starts forming again.

02:53:11.000 And I'm just sitting.

02:53:12.000 And I don't know if I was there for 20 minutes.

02:53:14.000 I don't know if I was there for seven hours.

02:53:16.000 And I'm just freaking the fuck out going, God damn, he can't kill these Terminators.

02:53:20.000 And these gay guys keep looking at me.

02:53:22.000 And I don't know what Randy's doing.

02:53:23.000 I thought he just abandoned me forever.

02:53:25.000 I had like, I can't even watch Terminator the same anymore.

02:53:29.000 Luckily, he came down.

02:53:30.000 He goes, all right, let's go to the roof.

02:53:31.000 And I was like, thank God you're here.

02:53:32.000 I went up there and talked about it all, but like, I was freaking the fuck up.

02:53:35.000 How long was he on the phone for?

02:53:37.000 I'm going to guess 15, 20 minutes.

02:53:37.000 Don't know.

02:53:39.000 But it seemed forever.

02:53:40.000 Oh, it seems so long.

02:53:42.000 And I'm just sitting there overthinking everything.

02:53:44.000 And then also the Terminator movie, like, just seemed like so pointless.

02:53:48.000 You can't kill it.

02:53:48.000 I'm like, why?

02:53:49.000 Just surrender.

02:53:50.000 You know, you can't shoot through this thing.

02:53:52.000 Well, didn't it come back eventually and become a good guy in the later movies?

02:53:56.000 I don't know which version of the Terminator I was watching.

02:53:58.000 Like it was T2 or T3 or whatever, but it was.

02:54:01.000 How many have there been?

02:54:02.000 I don't know.

02:54:03.000 How many?

02:54:04.000 It wasn't Fast for Furious or Terminators.

02:54:08.000 Fast and the Furious didn't also become a TV show, I don't think, yet.

02:54:08.000 Fast and the Furious.

02:54:11.000 I just saw the new Predator and it fucking rules.

02:54:13.000 Terminator became a TV show?

02:54:15.000 When?

02:54:15.000 Yeah.

02:54:18.000 No.

02:54:20.000 Really?

02:54:21.000 Did you see the new Predator?

02:54:22.000 It's like Sarah Connor Chronicles.

02:54:24.000 No, I haven't seen the new Predator.

02:54:25.000 Dude, it rules.

02:54:26.000 2008.

02:54:26.000 Who was this?

02:54:27.000 2008?

02:54:29.000 Huh?

02:54:30.000 I didn't watch it.

02:54:31.000 That looks ridiculous.

02:54:32.000 That was a thing.

02:54:34.000 They went down the rabbit hole at Terminator, but there's a bunch of stuff.

02:54:36.000 There's probably like six movies now.

02:54:37.000 I think I was watching like T2 or T3.

02:54:39.000 Terminator, Terminator 2, Terminator 3, Terminator Salvation.

02:54:44.000 There were six of them.

02:54:45.000 You know, the last ones that just try to wring that towel out and get a couple more drops of blood. 0.93

02:54:51.000 You ever seen the Leprechaun movies?

02:54:53.000 Yes.

02:54:53.000 Dude, after a while, they're just like, Leprechaun goes to space?

02:54:57.000 Leprechaun in the hood?

02:54:58.000 Like, it was just literally put the leprechaun in some setting.

02:55:02.000 It's funny that that one caught.

02:55:04.000 You know, like some things catch and they become like cult classics.

02:55:07.000 The leprechaun movies were cult classics.

02:55:09.000 Very good.

02:55:10.000 Yeah.

02:55:10.000 And the troll movie?

02:55:11.000 You ever see the troll movie?

02:55:12.000 I saw Troll 2, which is like the worst film that's ever been made.

02:55:15.000 Have you seen that?

02:55:16.000 Which one's that?

02:55:16.000 There was no Troll 1.

02:55:17.000 They just made Troll 2.

02:55:19.000 It's so bad, it's phenomenal.

02:55:21.000 Like, it's absolutely the best watch.

02:55:24.000 If you watch Troll 2, you'll watch the first scene or whatever, and you'll go, oh, he's the worst actor I've ever seen in my life.

02:55:30.000 And then the next person will come in the scene.

02:55:32.000 You go, oh, no, she's the worst actor. 1.00

02:55:34.000 And it just keeps going.

02:55:35.000 Everyone is worse than the next person.

02:55:38.000 Oh, God.

02:55:38.000 So bad.

02:55:39.000 I think they remade Troll 2 and it's coming out on Netflix.

02:55:42.000 You're kidding.

02:55:43.000 I just Googled Troll 2 and there's a trailer for a movie coming out this year.

02:55:47.000 They made a documentary about it called Best Worst Movie.

02:55:49.000 Oh, no.

02:55:50.000 Oh, you're kidding.

02:55:51.000 No, this is different.

02:55:52.000 Yeah, I know.

02:55:53.000 This is a pretty awesome movie.

02:55:54.000 This kind of cult Troll 2.

02:55:55.000 I don't know what the fuck it came from.

02:55:56.000 Doesn't Troll have a big dick in her? 1.00

02:55:58.000 That's his tail or something?

02:55:59.000 Yeah.

02:56:00.000 It's got a tail.

02:56:01.000 It is weird that he doesn't have a dick, though.

02:56:02.000 Well, it's like, why does he conveniently have animal skins over his dick?

02:56:07.000 1990 was another one came out.

02:56:08.000 Yeah, that's gross.

02:56:10.000 I would imagine he would be totally comfortable being naked.

02:56:12.000 Just who cares?

02:56:13.000 Yeah, you're not modest.

02:56:15.000 Why are you going to cover your giant dick?

02:56:17.000 Yeah.

02:56:17.000 Your giant bullet push.

02:56:18.000 Show it off while you kill people.

02:56:19.000 Swinging.

02:56:20.000 Why are you stomping on people?

02:56:21.000 The last thing they do is see that helmet dropping down.

02:56:23.000 That's why you lost your house.

02:56:24.000 Look at the size of my cock. 0.99

02:56:26.000 Yeah, this is ridiculous.

02:56:27.000 Why would he be vain?

02:56:28.000 Or why would he be modest?

02:56:31.000 You know what's supposed to be really good?

02:56:32.000 Looks really good?

02:56:33.000 Is that new Frankenstein on this?

02:56:36.000 Oh, yeah, the Guillermo Dotoro.

02:56:38.000 I haven't seen that.

02:56:39.000 But you don't like the Predator movies?

02:56:41.000 They're good.

02:56:42.000 I liked the Prey one. 0.94

02:56:44.000 Pretty good.

02:56:45.000 That was a good one.

02:56:45.000 Yeah.

02:56:46.000 Fun.

02:56:46.000 You know, the Commander.

02:56:47.000 A lot of Indians dying in that, you know?

02:56:49.000 Yeah, it was kind of crazy.

02:56:50.000 That one felt weird.

02:56:51.000 This one, I don't want to spoil anything, but they definitely stray from the rules of being a predator.

02:56:58.000 But it's so good.

02:57:00.000 Very is really good?

02:57:01.000 It's really good.

02:57:02.000 Yeah, I loved it.

02:57:03.000 Oh, it's the one where the, is she a robot? 1.00

02:57:05.000 She's a robot, which also makes it more realistic that she's so, like, able to do everything. 0.81

02:57:11.000 Anytime I would start to feel sexist, like, oh my gosh, they did this like girl power thing. 0.99

02:57:16.000 You're like, no, she's just a robot they made look like a woman. 1.00

02:57:19.000 So it's not like you have to feel like it's not, you know, whatever.

02:57:23.000 So this is predators getting fucked up here?

02:57:27.000 So it's based off this one runt predator who's on. 0.99

02:57:30.000 That's why he looks kind of weird and shit.

02:57:32.000 Don't spoil alert.

02:57:33.000 No, that's the predator.

02:57:34.000 Is that what it is?

02:57:34.000 Yeah, I didn't spoil anything.

02:57:35.000 But he's like a little runt.

02:57:37.000 And so that's why he's out to prove himself.

02:57:37.000 Oh.

02:57:40.000 Because he's smaller than all of them.

02:57:41.000 He's missing a fang.

02:57:43.000 He looks a little weird.

02:57:44.000 But that's because he's supposed to look weird.

02:57:46.000 Because a lot of people are like, this predator looks stupid.

02:57:49.000 Damn, 85% on tomorrow.

02:57:51.000 That's interesting.

02:57:52.000 93% like this movie.

02:57:54.000 No shit.

02:57:55.000 I loved it, dude.

02:57:55.000 I like when they can do that with a movie.

02:57:57.000 You know, you think, like, oh, what is this going to be?

02:57:59.000 Right.

02:58:00.000 Flip it on its head.

02:58:00.000 That's how I felt.

02:58:01.000 Oh.

02:58:03.000 And every time there would be a thing where I'd start to criticize it, like, I'd be like, this feels like Mortal Kombat.

02:58:07.000 And then in my mind, I'd go, Jeff, you love Mortal Kombat.

02:58:09.000 And I was like, all right.

02:58:10.000 And then the next part would be like, this is kind of Star Wars.

02:58:12.000 I'm like, but I love Star Wars.

02:58:13.000 So I kept coaching Russell.

02:58:15.000 And then after a while, I was like, this movie's really good.

02:58:16.000 Yeah.

02:58:17.000 You got to just enjoy things.

02:58:18.000 That's what I tell people when I play AI music for them.

02:58:18.000 Yeah.

02:58:21.000 Like, just enjoy it.

02:58:22.000 Forget about the fact the robots are taking over.

02:58:24.000 This is great music.

02:58:25.000 This is a pattern of every famous person I know.

02:58:28.000 What did you say, Jamie?

02:58:29.000 Great is tough.

02:58:31.000 Which one's tough?

02:58:31.000 Great.

02:58:32.000 Great is a weird word.

02:58:34.000 Amazing.

02:58:34.000 How about that?

02:58:35.000 That's very good.

02:58:35.000 That what up gangsta is amazing.

02:58:37.000 You know it is.

02:58:39.000 I've gone to rabbit holes too watching cover songs, though.

02:58:42.000 Like my favorite cover song and finding different bands doing good versions of it.

02:58:46.000 They're real.

02:58:47.000 Listen, the real bands are better, for sure, because it's a real band.

02:58:51.000 So it's a real person.

02:58:53.000 But I love listening to AI music.

02:58:55.000 I know there's one going violent.

02:58:56.000 I've never even heard of this.

02:58:58.000 It's not officially number one.

02:59:00.000 It's like a weird designation, but there's a song that's number one on the country digital sales chart by a completely AI band.

02:59:08.000 Well, DJs, DJs kind of did that.

02:59:11.000 DJs were kind of like the first version of that.

02:59:13.000 Like they're putting in their robot and then like making the songs and sampling and stuff.

02:59:17.000 So this is just, I mean, it's not that far deviating.

02:59:20.000 This is way deviating.

02:59:21.000 This is, you could change the kind of song.

02:59:25.000 Like you could have like a little Charlie Crockett, a little Elvis Presley.

02:59:28.000 You could mix it.

02:59:29.000 They're like, they're essentially drawing from all the songs that have ever been made.

02:59:34.000 So all the best sounds that anybody's ever sung.

02:59:37.000 It has to be good.

02:59:38.000 It's amazing.

02:59:39.000 It's so good.

02:59:40.000 It has to be.

02:59:41.000 The way you just described it.

02:59:42.000 It has all the music.

02:59:44.000 We'll wrap this up, Jeff, and we'll wrap this up and I'll play you a little what up gangster.

02:59:49.000 We don't need the audience at home to hear this, but you need to hear this.

02:59:52.000 Everyone have to edit out anyway.

02:59:54.000 So many successful people I know are really like big music heads.

02:59:58.000 Oh, music is a drug, man.

02:59:59.000 Yeah.

03:00:00.000 It's a marvelous drug that inspires you, makes you feel better, makes you move around.

03:00:05.000 That mothership, you guys are always playing good music up in that green room.

03:00:08.000 And I'm always like, what is this?

03:00:09.000 Like, every single time I think I'm in that green room, I'm always going, what's this one?

03:00:12.000 Tony's got a bunch.

03:00:13.000 Well, everybody contributes.

03:00:14.000 Everybody, when they find a cool song, will bring it into the green room.

03:00:17.000 And then we'll add it to the – the playlist on Spotify is like 34 hours or something now.

03:00:22.000 Yeah.

03:00:23.000 Yeah, it's crazy because you just keep adding cool songs.

03:00:25.000 That's perfect.

03:00:26.000 Jeff Dye, anything, website, Instagram, Twitter.

03:00:30.000 I just launched a podcast.

03:00:31.000 Oh.

03:00:32.000 It's called Die Hard.

03:00:34.000 I like it.

03:00:35.000 Pretty good, yeah.

03:00:36.000 D-Y-E-Hard. 0.65

03:00:37.000 D-Y-E Hard. 0.77

03:00:38.000 Okay.

03:00:38.000 Once a week, comes out every week.

03:00:40.000 You can watch it on YouTube or wherever you listen to podcasts.

03:00:43.000 I like the name.

03:00:43.000 It's on everything.

03:00:44.000 Yeah.

03:00:44.000 And then.

03:00:45.000 At first, I didn't.

03:00:46.000 Because of you, I made it for everyone.

03:00:50.000 I had it behind a thing on a Patreon and nah, don't do that.

03:00:54.000 I'm growing.

03:00:54.000 Yeah, it just, it won't grow.

03:00:56.000 That's the problem.

03:00:57.000 Like, you get some money for a complete lack of.

03:01:00.000 Yeah.

03:01:00.000 I'd rather everyone hear it.

03:01:02.000 And then also, we'll start doing a thing where it's like once a week we'll do the Face to face where I have like an interview with somebody that I like and sit down and do like a proper podcast.

03:01:14.000 Beautiful.

03:01:14.000 But yeah, and then JeffDie.com to find all my tour dates.

03:01:17.000 And I'll see you tonight.

03:01:18.000 Yes, sir.

03:01:19.000 Yes, sir.

03:01:19.000 All right.

03:01:20.000 Thanks for having me, brother.

03:01:21.000 All right.

The Joe Rogan Experience - November 12, 2025

Joe Rogan Experience #2410 - Jeff Dye

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