In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, I get to catch up with my good friend and long time co-worker, Joe Rocha. We talk about his life growing up in the late 80s and early 90s in the San Francisco area, how he dealt with a near-death experience, and why it s important to live life to the fullest.
00:02:28.000You know, it's like that thing where people have a near-death experience and then they swear they're going to change their ways and they're going to appreciate everything and they're going to do all that.
00:02:58.000Do you think about the way you think and the way you live and do you analyze it and decide whether or not this is a good way to proceed or whether or not you need to make adjustments?
00:05:29.000And it never felt like criticism to me.
00:05:32.000Well, even if it is criticism, it doesn't matter.
00:05:34.000It's like if coaching is good, like if you can be coachable, that's like one of the best indicators that you're going to do well in life if you could take direction and instruction from someone who knows what they're talking about.
00:06:34.000And this thing you're doing is something you don't know how to do as well as this person who's teaching you.
00:06:38.000And if you can do that, then you can get better.
00:06:41.000And then getting better at anything that you are trying to do that's difficult, any discipline, that discipline becomes a vehicle for developing your human potential.
00:06:50.000If you can figure out how to get good at that by listening to this person and then proceeding and seeing the steps of improvement, you can apply that to everything in life.
00:06:58.000But if you never learn how to do that, you're going to get stuck.
00:07:01.000You know what I've been thinking about?
00:07:03.000I've been thinking about how insecure a lot of people are and how they really react when you tell them something, criticism or coach them.
00:07:13.000But I think it's their insecurity that's reacting.
00:07:16.000And then I sort of realize like you have a skill set.
00:07:51.000I feel like there's stuff I know and then there's other things I do know, but I don't walk around with that insecurity that I realize like a lot of people, they don't have a trade.
00:08:21.000Like there's fields of expertise, speaking another language, mastering an instrument, things like that.
00:08:28.000And I realize so many people just are, there's just nothing.
00:08:32.000They never found a thing that they don't find a thing and they're so insecure and they walk around in this heightened state of insecurity and then somebody runs into them somewhere at an airport or a Starbucks or something and they start ripping off, you know, throwing furniture.
00:08:50.000And it's like, why are you in this state all the time?
00:09:16.000Most people just get jobs and they never really find a thing where they can throw themselves into it and watch the improvement and understand that, oh, I know that I started this out as a beginner and now I'm really good because I put in so much time and so much effort.
00:10:37.000Well, they've probably never been introduced to something like that.
00:10:40.000The problem with video games is it'll steal your thing.
00:10:43.000Like if video games, if there was a thing, maybe that you, maybe you were into golf or maybe you're into something, video games will steal your time.
00:10:51.000They'll steal your desire because they're so fun.
00:12:25.000I bought a video game once, and it was a World War II one, and I thought I was going to go to the deck of the ship and shoot at some zeros who are dive bombing our ship.
00:12:37.000But the video game started below in the barracks.
00:12:40.000We're in our bunks, and a torpedo hit, and I could never get to the deck.
00:14:23.000So by nature, comedic nature is to sit in the back of the class and pop off and try to entertain an audience, which is sort of built in, which is the classroom.
00:14:33.000But it is interesting that they then offer an award called class clown.
00:14:39.000Did they offer an award for class clown?
00:14:45.000So I got the class clown designation, but all through high school, I was told to shut up by every teacher, which is a weird, it's a backhanded compliment, but it's a weird message to send to the clown, which is shut up, shut up, shut up.
00:15:01.000Here's your award at the end for talking.
00:15:25.000They're just like, I want consistency.
00:15:28.000I don't care if I'm underpaid as long as I never stop getting paid and I can retire early and I have a place to go.
00:15:35.000And it's a kind of a version of life where you're not telling people to chase their dreams and explore the possibilities because you're in this place right now where you didn't chase your dreams.
00:16:14.000I wanted to go back because I wanted to play football.
00:16:17.000Like I didn't want to go to, I didn't want to go to class, but I would have dreams about going back to play like one more year of football.
00:18:54.000But later on, when I was driving a truck, you know, to the construction side every day, I would listen to morning radio in LA and I'd listen to these morning teams and I'd go, oh, shit, I can do that.
00:19:10.000Like I was inspired by their inability to be consistently funny.
00:19:17.000And it is a weird thing where people do that.
00:19:20.000They always think the best is going to bring it out in you, but it's intimidating.
00:19:25.000Sometimes you have to see people that are mediocre at their job for you to think, oh, hell, I can do that.
00:19:30.000Certainly at the beginning, you know, like if you walked right into a gym and as you were like Terrence Crawford t-shirt I'm wearing and Terrence Crawford's working out.
00:19:38.000It was the first time you ever worked out.
00:19:40.000And someone says, do you want to spar with Terrence Crawford?
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00:22:53.000But so Weaver and then his half-triplet brothers, the fighting triplets, Troy, Floyd, and Lloyd, by the way, they're all fighters, right?
00:23:05.000And I realized they were good fighters, but they didn't know how to teach fighting because they couldn't verbalize it and they couldn't intellectualize it.
00:25:33.000Which it's interesting because in MMA, that stuff is like that's shunned.
00:25:39.000Like you, you, like, because you get in trouble if you grease yourself up because there's guys that grease.
00:25:45.000And what they do to cheat is they'll put baby oil on the night before, and they'll like literally soak in baby oil, and then they'll take a shower.
00:25:54.000And so when they show up to fight, their skin is dry, and so they don't have any baby oil.
00:25:59.000But as soon as they start sweating, that baby oil comes out of their pores and they are slick like a fucking trout.
00:27:20.000But if you're attracted to a job that makes you a trainer in UFC or running an F1 team, you'll probably be a person who's attracted to competition, thus attracted to winning.
00:27:32.000And then at some point, your livelihood will depend on it.
00:27:36.000And you'll try to do everything you can do.
00:27:52.000Like, when we found out those guys were juicing, and we kind of all knew they were juicing.
00:27:55.000But once we found out they were juicing, everybody was so mad at them because you had defamed our great American national pastime, which is baseball.
00:28:10.000I love it when, I don't know, Bob Costas gets all and Billy Crystal get all upset about the majesty of baseball and how you've ruined the sanctity of it and stuff like that.
00:28:23.000Baseball was always kind of a pussy sport for me.
00:28:26.000Like, I thought if you're a real dude, you play football and then maybe box or wrestle or something like that.
00:28:44.000You didn't have a game, but you'd be out in the field hitting the cutoff or up at bat patting practice where you literally played baseball.
00:28:52.000In football, I never touched a football.
00:28:55.000You're just pushing a sled and getting in some tackling drill, running laps.
00:29:58.000Wrestling practice and football practice are not dissimilar.
00:30:02.000It's just torture young people, essentially, and kind of try to break them a little bit.
00:30:09.000And wrestling is probably more torturous than football, but football is hot because it's the San Fernando Valley or wherever Florida, and you're outside and you're in a uniform and you're just baking in the sun and they didn't want to give you water because they thought it was bad for you.
00:31:43.000I mean, it didn't stop me from having sex with my girlfriend, but it did make me feel like that was a weakness.
00:31:49.000But don't you feel, I feel like I fall back on my misery and those two-a-day practices and the San Fernando Valley and getting yelled at by coaches and being on a construction site and sort of getting yelled at by a foreman and like just doing sort of miserable donkey work all day.
00:32:09.000As I get older, I realize, oh, everything seems pretty simple and pretty easy compared to that.
00:32:15.000And I realize I talked to a lot of people that never went through that.
00:32:20.000And so they don't really have, they're not calibrated.
00:32:24.000Like, like sometimes, like ever since I got out of construction and into comedy, I've never looked at comedy as work, you know?
00:32:31.000And then sometimes they'll go, oh, they want to add a second show or whatever.
00:32:51.000It's not work compared to the work I knew from back in the day.
00:32:56.000But then I realized I do deal with a lot of people that never had that baseline.
00:33:02.000And so they never had that misery and they never had that experience.
00:33:07.000And so for them, their baseline is sort of air conditioning and a 401k and a coffee maker.
00:33:14.000And it's not, you know, using a port-a-potty and eating lunch on a pile of plywood and eating off a lunch truck and all that kind of stuff.
00:33:22.000So drinking off a hose, no air conditioning, like that world.
00:33:29.000And so for them, a second show is a lot of work or working on a weekend or doing whatever.
00:33:35.000It's that old expression: the worst thing that's ever happened to you is the worst thing that's ever happened to you, no matter what it is.
00:33:41.000So if you've lived an incredibly sheltered life and the worst thing that ever happens is you get in a mild fender bender and you can't believe it and your world has ended and you're just sobbing and weeping.
00:33:51.000Or if you're a guy who's lived a fucking difficult, hard life and then you get an offender bender, you're like, oh, they'll fix that.
00:34:05.000Yeah, I've always thought that, you know, when it came to boxing or a sport like that, that, you know, people go, oh, you know how to box so you could use your hands and then you have an advantage.
00:34:19.000You know, if some drunk guy comes at you or something, like you can use your hands.
00:37:06.000You know, one of the things I like about you is, and always stuck with me.
00:37:10.000Years ago, when I interviewed you, I said, your biological dad, do you ever have a desire to get back in touch with him or reconnect or whatever that was?
00:37:39.000I'm like, if you don't know him, you don't know him.
00:37:42.000Like, I always, I don't know, it stuck with me.
00:37:46.000Well, I think family's nice if they're nice.
00:37:50.000You know, if they're great people and you want to be in touch with them, but I don't think you should spend any time with people that you don't like.
00:39:31.000I've been paying attention to a lot of your stuff covering the Palisades fire and all that stuff.
00:39:37.000And I think I'm really glad that there's someone like you out there that gets to shine light on these things and show people how fucked up this whole thing was.
00:39:45.000You know, we talked about it on the podcast that you immediately, once the fire happened, you were like, no one's rebuilding.
00:39:52.000Like, you don't understand the Coastal Commission.
00:39:55.000You don't understand the permitting process.
00:39:56.000This is going to be like this forever.
00:41:31.000I don't know if your doctor would recommend it, but it's livable.
00:41:35.000But the thing that I've always known is I've always known how burdensome regulation is in Los Angeles, and it's invisible.
00:41:44.000And that's why we don't have housing, and that's why houses are too expensive.
00:41:48.000And that's why there's no homeless shelters and housing and all that stuff is because it's so burdensome to build.
00:41:55.000They make it so difficult to build that people don't build.
00:42:00.000And I knew this is what was coming, but other people didn't really know it because they've not dealt with the city, plan check, regulations, plan approval, engineering.
00:42:12.000Like this is stuff I've been doing my whole life.
00:42:15.000So I knew early on that this wasn't going to happen.
00:42:19.000And I think people who live in Los Angeles are sort of naive.
00:42:23.000Like they just think that Coastal Commission and the City Council and Plan Check and Building and Safety, like they're there just to facilitate this stuff.
00:42:33.000They're not there to facilitate any of it.
00:42:37.000Like they want you to go away, is basically what it is.
00:42:41.000So I knew none of this was going to happen.
00:42:45.000But also there's a thing that I don't think anyone really is aware of, which is they are so over-regulated that they make it so difficult to build that people can't afford it.
00:43:01.000And they're then stymied by it and they tend to just get discouraged and they go away.
00:43:08.000So what they do is like I was friends with Suzanne Summers and Alan Hamill and they lived in Malibu and they loved Malibu and then their home burnt down years ago.
00:43:21.000This was another fire and then they wanted to rebuild the home.
00:43:25.000But the Coastal Commission made it so difficult that after five years of trying, they just went fuck it and they moved to Palm Springs.
00:43:33.000But they wanted to live in Malibu, but they couldn't.
00:43:37.000And it is so regulated and so difficult.
00:43:43.000And the hoops they make you go through and the engineering is insane.
00:43:48.000There is one place that they're building on on Pacific Coast Highway.
00:43:53.000And I've been down to the construction site and I've looked at it.
00:43:56.000They're sinking six-foot, six-story caissons, so 60-foot caisson cages.
00:44:05.000So a caisson, you just drill into the earth and you use a huge auger bit, and the hole's like 30 inches around, and you go down six stories, and then you drop a rebar cage into it, and then you pump concrete into it, and that's your caisson.
00:44:23.000There's a house, and it's a small lot.
00:44:26.000They're going to have 60 of these things into the ground before they can start building.
00:44:32.000Is this because of the instability of the ground, like landslides and stuff like that?
00:44:35.000Well, you get a lot of that in Malibu right now.
00:44:39.000They go, we're an earthquake country or whatever they do.
00:44:42.000But I've lived in houses in California that were built in 1923 and 1929 when they had none of this stuff and they had none of the technology and they saw their way through many earthquakes and they're just there.
00:44:57.000So they blame stuff like earthquake or coastal or whatever it is.
00:45:01.000And then they make you go 2,000 times further than you needed to go.
00:45:20.000Well, what they do is they just add new ones every year.
00:45:24.000So it just keeps getting more and more and more.
00:45:27.000And then eventually that house becomes, it becomes impractical to build there because it costs too much money and then you don't have houses.
00:45:37.000So that's what we do with all housing in Los Angeles.
00:45:41.000And that's why the city council's like, we need more housing.
00:45:45.000And it's like, well, you're not going to get more housing, bitch, because you're over-regulated and no one can reach that standard and it's too expensive.
00:45:52.000Well, and it's also, then it's not consistent with the houses that are already okay.
00:45:57.000Like, how about those houses that are like on the side of a hill with like poles?
00:46:47.000So it's like the walls are like modular and it's filled with like foam and like sort of a wire cage.
00:46:56.000And then the outside they spray on gunite, which is like lightweight cement and just like trowel it on.
00:47:01.000So the inside and the outside is essentially cement.
00:47:04.000But, you know, a stucco house is basically cement too.
00:47:08.000Like really what they're doing now is they're saying, we're going to frame the houses the way we always frame the houses with wood.
00:47:16.000Because I think a lot of people go, well, why aren't they using steel or metal studs or concrete?
00:47:20.000Why are they using, why aren't they using non-combustible materials?
00:47:26.000And what they're doing essentially, because I just walked one of these houses in the Palisades, they're building it in a traditional way using wood, but they're making the outside fireproof.
00:47:38.000They're not going to have the eaves, the rafter tails hanging out, the wooden rafter tails hang out.
00:47:44.000They're not going to have the vents to vent the attic where the embers can get into the attic and then get to the wood and cost.
00:47:51.000Because most of it was just stuff blowing into the attic.
00:47:54.000And then the house ignited sort of from the inside out.
00:47:57.000So if you do a flat roof, a metal roof, and you do a stucco, glass, aluminum, and you don't do the rafter tails or the eaves and you don't have any way, then essentially you have this combustible house with a hard candy shell around it with nothing combustible on that.
00:48:19.000And so the fire can't get started, essentially.
00:51:08.000And remember, but to speak of me being able to watch a doc on the Holocaust and then go out and do comedy, I was sitting outside.
00:51:15.000I was with somebody and all it was was the foundation, the whole place.
00:51:19.000I said, man, I remember being here, like shaping the oak and making the railings and turning the oak and getting my router out and putting the finish on and everything.
00:52:52.000Was had to flee that night, had to go stay at a hotel in Burbank or something, and then basically just watched the news.
00:53:02.000And I could see once in a while in the news, they'd cut to a spot where you'd go, oh, that's the restaurant in front of it, and it was ablaze.
00:53:10.000Like everything, every time they cut to something around my house, it was all on fire.
00:53:16.000So I was like in Burbank and I was sitting in a hotel room and I was like, well, it's gone.
00:53:26.000And that's when the following day, I did my podcast from the Burbank hotel room because the winds were so strong that the power was out to my studio, but the power was on at this hotel I was in.
00:53:43.000So I just sort of set up in the living room of the hotel.
00:53:47.000And that's when I delivered my none of this shit's going to work speech, which is like, you know, the difference.
00:53:53.000It was like the opposite of whatever Winston Churchill would have done.
00:55:27.000I just brought my laptop and maybe some important photos or something like that.
00:55:34.000Like we didn't bring much and then just went to a hotel in Beverly Hills and just the sky was filled with fucking smoke everywhere you looked.
00:55:41.000You know, that was again, folks, this is the 2018 fire.
00:56:08.000See, LA sort of has process people, but they don't have get shit done people.
00:56:13.000They just have people that talk about stuff and then have a committee and we got to talk about the homeless and everyone needs a seat at the table and no one's illegal and all this kind of stuff.
00:56:22.000And then they go, all right, let's eat.
01:00:05.000Once you keep going, that's where it gets real burdensome and real expensive.
01:00:11.000Like, you know, your car should have a crumple zone and an airbag, but it doesn't need a full roll cage and a fuel cell, and you don't need to wear a helmet when you're driving.
01:00:23.000It would be safer, but it would cost so much more to manufacture that car that most people couldn't afford the car.
01:00:32.000So you can make cars with a fire suppression system.
01:00:36.000And like my race cars have systems for fire suppression, but it would add 15 grand to the price of every car.
01:00:43.000And it's not, so you have to kind of pick your battles.
01:01:08.000It is not, because LA's had the same climate forever.
01:01:11.000There's been fires that happen through LA where LA burns half to the ground.
01:01:15.000I mean, while I was doing Fear Factor, there was a crazy fire that as I was driving home, that was the time where a guy died on the highway.
01:02:49.000And to show it's a weird thing because people in California talk about climate change, but the lots that are on the ocean side of PCH are 10 million bucks more than the ones that are up the hill that would be safe from the ocean that was rising.
01:03:24.000It's from Reuters, and it's about Iceland.
01:03:27.000Iceland has declared a threat to the Atlantic Ocean current, a national security risk, potential collapse of which could trigger a modern-day ice age with winter temperatures across northern Europe plummeting to new cold extremes.
01:03:39.000This is Reuters, and this is a new thing.
01:03:42.000Like I have brought in climate change people, a lot of them who are scientists and skeptics.
01:05:47.000There's also a thing that you come to realize as you're an adult.
01:05:51.000If there is ever a public narrative where they're protecting you and protecting the future and trying to help and save people, that's a lie.
01:06:07.000It's almost always about somebody profiting from some green energy initiative or some other bullshit they're trying to push through, some vegan meat, whatever the fuck it is.
01:07:26.000Like we have deputized all you dumb, scared people to be released onto society as ambassadors of bullshit who are going to scare everybody.
01:07:35.000Because COVID wouldn't have worked if we didn't have a bunch of dumb, scared people running around.
01:07:41.000Like Gavin Newsom can shut the beaches all he wants, but if everyone just declared a beach day, then we'd be fine.
01:07:52.000They are sort of limited in terms of what they can do in terms of policing it, but they deputize all these dumb ambassadors to go out and enforce it for them.
01:09:01.000But also, but no anger towards the people that created the disease.
01:09:05.000I mean, it's a literally once, once the information came out, and literally Newsweek was, I think, the first place that broke on the front cover the lab leak hypothesis.
01:09:17.000And they were saying it seems like that is actually the case.
01:09:22.000You were angry at people that didn't want to get vaccinated, and you didn't get angry at the person who used science to create a horrible disease that was completely avoidable and that killed who knows how many people.
01:09:35.000Well, I think what was going on, because you and I, and I've talked to a lot of people about this, like, where's the anger over finding out that it was made in China at a lab and so on and so forth?
01:09:49.000And then where's the anger over being forced to be vaxed or all this misinformation being used and blah, blah, blah.
01:09:55.000And I realize they don't want to say anything because they're ashamed because they were the ones who bought it and enforced it and got really militant about it and started screaming at anyone who suggested it came from a lab or suggested the shot wasn't good or going to work or spread or natural immunity.
01:10:15.000They went after everyone so hard that now it's a lesson in embarrassment and humiliation for them to go, oh meacobola.
01:11:53.000Maybe then the next time something comes along, you'll say, okay, wait a minute.
01:11:57.000What is the public narrative that's being forced down my throat that I'm a bad person if I don't believe?
01:12:01.000And let me analyze this and let me see: are there any dissenting opinions that are like from Stanford and MIT, which there certainly was during COVID, and those all got silenced?
01:12:12.000Is there anybody else out there that makes a very good point that maybe this is bullshit?
01:12:16.000And is there a financial incentive as to why they're pushing this narrative?
01:12:20.000So if you go through something where you are totally wrong and you're adamant about enforcing this wrong opinion, and then you have to realize it.
01:12:29.000And if you can come to grips with the idea that your ideas are not you, you are just a person and your ideas are just some things that you have that you carry with you, but they are not you.
01:12:40.000And they will become you if you get married to them and defend them, even if you know that they're wrong.
01:12:45.000Then they'll be like a child and you're hiding a body for them.
01:12:49.000And instead, you can say, oh, this is why that idea worked on me.
01:12:55.000Now I recognize, you know, it's like if someone cheats on you or if someone like, if you have a business manager that steals money, next guy, you're going to check the fucking books.
01:13:04.000If you're working with a guy and you think he might be showing up at the job drunk, the next person you hire, you're going to go, you have a drinking problem.
01:13:11.000You're going to be a little bit more ready for it.
01:13:14.000That's a thing that could be happening here as well.
01:13:16.000Like if you just admitted that you were wrong and then just came clean with it, you'd feel better about yourself.
01:13:22.000People would feel better about your opinions because they know they can trust you to say when you were wrong.
01:13:28.000And you'll probably be way better equipped to analyze the next narrative that's being shoved down your throat and go, hold on, before we jump right in this and blow up all the gas-powered cars, let's look at, before we kill all the cows, let's look at this.
01:13:44.000You are right, but we're sort of getting back to a sort of insecurity thing.
01:13:48.000Like, you are good at enough stuff and successful enough that you can handle somebody going, yeah, you're wrong about this thing.
01:14:09.000Like, I don't know, and I don't think you know any guys that really are good at stuff, really mastered something, could be an instrument, could be mixed martial arts, could be Master Carpenter.
01:14:22.000They don't walk around with that so insecure, so they don't fight so hard.
01:14:29.000Like, I remember when I was a kid, I would argue real hard because I guess I was insecure.
01:15:14.000But if it's not your building and you're just sort of temporary and you don't own anything and you don't master anything and nothing has your name on it, well, then you're fighting for that.
01:15:27.000You're fighting for your very identity.
01:15:29.000Yeah, that becomes part of your identity.
01:15:31.000Whereas like COVID, being right or being wrong, wasn't really, I wasn't that wrapped up in it.
01:15:40.000So I think we're dealing with a deficit of expertise and these people are fighting hard.
01:15:47.000Like for me, a lot of it toggling in between the blue collar world and the sort of ideas world of air conditioning and cubicles and thoughts and ideas and stuff.
01:16:01.000And then being on a job site, the job site guys are the most even guys I've ever hung out with.
01:16:08.000By the way, COVID, neither here nor there to the workers, to the dudes putting on the tool bags and swinging the hammer.
01:16:16.000I've spent a lot of time with these guys.
01:16:18.000I would go from the job site, blue-collar, regular dudes, and then I'd go into the white-collar world and it's triple mask and everyone's distancing and dumping Perl on their head.
01:16:30.000And I was like, what is so different about these two?
01:16:33.000And the ones they're up in their head, they intellectualize everything.
01:16:38.000And the other guys are tactile and they have a relationship with danger.
01:16:43.000Everything on that job site could cut your hand off.
01:16:47.000There's belt sanders and bandsaws and like routers are really dangerous.
01:16:53.000They have, you know, carbide bits on them that'll gouge you and fuck you up badly.
01:16:58.000And you got to know what you're doing.
01:17:00.000Like, and a router is not the same as a high point saw, and that's not the same as a framing gun.
01:17:04.000Like you have to sort of know, and there is no such thing as, well, that's dangerous.
01:17:56.000And so like COVID felt like something to them, but they calibrated the danger and realized, yes, it's a thing, but I also have to go to work and schools need to be open and it doesn't really affect kids.
01:18:52.000You're constantly sort of calibrating for danger.
01:18:56.000And then you move everyone out of the farm and off the factory and out of the construction site and you put them in an air-conditioned cubicle and you slather them up with Purel and they lose all their calibration.
01:19:09.000So when something like COVID comes along, they go, oh, shit, close everything, get a distance, put a mask on.
01:19:18.000Even if you're going to swim practice, you've got to wear the mask in the pool.
01:19:23.000It's 100% safety Uber Alice because no one was calibrated.
01:19:28.000And it was all of the administrators and the teachers and all the academics and all the people that ran college.
01:19:36.000They were making all, they were the ones that were doing all the process for this.
01:21:13.000But yet they allowed those motherfuckers to keep them out of school for a year and a half.
01:21:18.000They told them to wear masks when it didn't make any sense and when there was no studies whatsoever that masks did any good.
01:21:24.000In fact, not only that, but there's some real indicators that masks, like carrying on a dirty fucking mask and breathing into it all day, probably increases the amount of bacteria you're taking in.
01:21:36.000Well, first off, I want you to know, I told my son, who was in high school at the time, if you come back from school and tell me that no one told you to put a mask up at least 15 times, I will disown you.
01:21:47.000I want that fucking mask around your nutsack like the entire time.
01:21:50.000I want it to be a constant correction where you put the mask.
01:21:54.000When they're done telling you to put the mask up and they walk away, put it back down again.
01:21:58.000I will be so proud of you if you get suspended for this.
01:24:21.000I was like, they're living in a totally different reality.
01:24:24.000Well, not only, but the thing that's crazy is the first time we heard the phrase mask up in between bites, like on an airplane where they'd yell at you to wear the mask the whole time, right?
01:24:36.000And then at some point, they'd hand you the hummus box and they'd go, in between bites.
01:24:41.000I was like, we all should have gone, okay, this doesn't exist.
01:25:00.000And I said, if I ran a highway safety campaign that said belt up in between lights, it would make more sense than mask up in between bites.
01:26:11.000And half the time, the flight attendant had their mask with the elastic strap twisted 180, which made it create a huge gap on the side.
01:26:22.000Like I can see three quarters of an inch of daylight coming in the side of your mask, bitch, and you're giving me a lecture about wearing a mask.
01:26:41.000I was on to them early because I realized, well, somebody pointed out to me later why I was skeptical early, which is there was a pattern that had broken, which is every time they give you a death, like when you're driving and listening to the radio and they go, an 89-year-old man was struck and killed by a cyclist on, you know, and then they'd go, a 61-year-old mother from Laverne, you know,
01:27:41.000I think these are really old people, but they're not telling us they're really old people because it wouldn't scare us as much.
01:27:48.000Because if a 91-year-old dies of anything, you just kind of go, all right, had a good run.
01:27:53.000But if you hear about an 11-year-old dying, it's a big deal.
01:27:57.000And so I stopped hearing ages and I was like, they're trying to fuck with us now because they don't want to tell us these are elderly people who are dying of COVID.
01:28:06.000And so I kind of caught on that kids weren't being effective or being affected, I should say, early with COVID.
01:28:15.000And then they focused all on the kids, but the kids were there to scare us.
01:28:20.000Because when elderly people die, it's just not a tragedy compared to young people dying.
01:29:28.000This thing is like, I wonder how many people, if something very similar happened tomorrow, if a new COVID that's just as bad as the last COVID, meaning that it's not really that bad.
01:29:42.000It's something that's going to really mostly be a major problem for old people and for people that are already immune compromised or have many comorbidities, like most of the people that died.
01:31:18.000Everyone on CNN was an expert, and they all knew that it didn't work.
01:31:23.000And I'm like, how do you guys all know this all at the same time?
01:31:28.000How does Rolling Stone magazine, how do you losers all know this thing that you'd never heard of before that you couldn't pronounce the day before yesterday?
01:31:38.000You now all know it doesn't work based on nothing.
01:32:58.000The ivermectin thing was fascinating because when CNN was saying that I was taking a horse dewormer, which is they chose to refer to it as that.
01:33:54.000When they found a healthy person who takes care of himself, got over it really quickly with these medications, they had to figure out, they turned my face yellow.
01:34:19.000In terms of, you know, my house could have burned down in Malibu, but I can get a new house, you know, and my Paul Newman race car, I could crash in total, but I can get a new one.
01:34:31.000But when your reputation goes, that's it.
01:35:56.000I mean, he really should have used that moment to clarify a little bit, but he just sort of passively went along with Don Lemon.
01:36:05.000He was more of just not being a very brave person and being confronted and not being very easy.
01:36:12.000Also, it was like, I think one of the first times he'd ever been attacked, he got attacked publicly after, and he got attacked publicly even more after that.
01:36:21.000And I actually like made a post about it.
01:37:17.000You're doing very complicated surgeries.
01:37:19.000I don't think you have the time to go look on Reddit and find out conspiracy theories about SB40 and the fucking vaccine, the simian virus 40.
01:37:52.000He's not the guy that's going to do a bunch of research and go find.
01:37:55.000So when he's saying that, when he's trying to tell people to get vaccinated, it's not because he's a propagandist.
01:38:00.000It's because he believes the business that he works for because he's not that guy.
01:38:05.000He's not like Peter McCullough, who goes digging into all the studies and says, no, none of this is accurate.
01:38:10.000Or Robert Malone, who did the same thing.
01:38:12.000He was literally owns patents, nine patents on the creation of mRNA vaccine technology, got vaccinated, and then was telling people, don't do it.
01:39:43.000Like, you can't stop me from telling the truth.
01:39:46.000Mortgaging your integrity is the perfect way to describe it.
01:39:49.000Cause like, what a stupid thing to do for the whole network.
01:39:53.000I wouldn't care if it's the pharmaceutical drug companies or whoever.
01:39:56.000If I was the head of that network and someone said, we're going to just lie about someone and we're going to call a universally accepted effective medicine.
01:40:06.000We're going to call it horse dewormer.
01:40:07.000Something that's in the World Health Organization's list of essential medicines.
01:40:47.000They got used to it and they got kind of complacent.
01:40:52.000And I don't think they anticipated what you're talking about, the sort of alternative media and podcasters and just voices coming from other places.
01:41:25.000And, but it's always, it's what happens to all sort of old guard companies or many.
01:41:33.000I mean, it can be media, but it could also just be automotive manufacturers.
01:41:38.000Like the big three were so big and so dominant for so long in this country that when Toyota and Dotson started showing up in 1969, they're like, get out of here.
01:41:52.000I'm just going to try that little pop gun.
01:42:34.000They're basically going through what the big three auto manufacturers went through in the early 80s.
01:42:40.000Like we need to make a more reliable, smaller car that's more fuel efficient.
01:42:44.000Yeah, they were Toyota, Nissan, you know, Dotson, whatever, they were way down the road on that, making those cars before Ford and Chrysler and GM and whatever started to begin to think about that.
01:42:58.000You know, so it's like a, it's like an aircraft carrier.
01:43:27.000Barry Weiss is now doing the news division at CBS.
01:43:33.000So CBS, who's like lying all through 60 minutes and editing and cooking and all that kind of stuff, they found somebody from our sort of media sphere to come in and sort of be a little more middle of the road.
01:43:48.000And it's going to be tough because you got a bunch of old guard there who doesn't want to do it.
01:43:53.000I mean, it's sort of like the first Trump administration.
01:43:56.000Like he goes, I'm going to come in and I'm going to do a whole bunch of shit that I want to do.
01:44:00.000And it's like, not with all these old guard people hanging around going, all right, oh, we'll call you president, but behind your back, we're not going to let you do any of this shit.
01:44:11.000Well, it's going to take these progressive media companies a little while to flush out all of these college grads that have been there for 10 years that have just been used to having their way.
01:46:08.000And that's a giant chunk of that business.
01:46:10.000A giant chunk of that business is purposely misrepresenting people because that's going to make for a more salacious story or that's going to push the narrative that you're trying to push.
01:46:21.000And this BBC thing that they did with Trump, I'm sure you watched that.
01:46:27.000They felt justified in editing something to make it look like he had a completely different sentence.
01:46:33.000Well, the funny thing about it is whenever they confront the outgoing head who's on the way out, they always go, yeah, we did this, but we're not biased at all.
01:46:45.000And it's like, well, it's first off, it's one or the other, bitch.
01:47:09.000So you're biased and you're cooking it.
01:47:12.000And that means we don't need to listen to the BBC anymore, which is the part about mortgaging your reputation, which people, I think I've come to sort of learn that it's not always about accuracy.
01:47:30.000I think it's about authenticity, which is to say people may disagree with something that Joe Rogan or Adam Carolla has to say.
01:47:41.000And that's fine because it's going to happen.
01:49:57.000The problem is I used to subscribe to Rolling Stone when I was younger and I liked Rolling Stone and I would read their articles and I would believe Rolling Stone and now I don't believe them anymore.
01:50:25.000Well, if I am wrong about something and I find out I'm wrong about something, I'll tell you I was wrong about something and I'll tell you why I thought differently and what I learned.
01:50:35.000I don't think you should be married to ideas.
01:50:38.000I think they should bounce around inside your head and you should cling on to them if they're rational and they make sense and if they've been challenged.
01:50:46.000But if you don't want your ideas ever challenged, then they're not ideas.
01:50:51.000You know, there's also, as we go down and talk about this, this sort of posture that you have, that I have in terms of your ideas, where I realize that having like a building background, my process is constantly saying to people, here's my idea.
01:51:15.000Here's what I want to do with this deck.
01:51:18.000Now tell me why I'm wrong or tell me how to make it better or give me a better idea.
01:51:24.000And oftentimes people go, yeah, why don't you just do it this way instead of that one?
01:51:28.000And I'll go, oh, that's a good, okay, I'll do it.
01:51:31.000And you know, from training and training with people and being in that world, it's constantly going, is there a better way to do this?
01:51:40.000And someone goes, you're doing this, but you should be doing that.
01:52:09.000Even in comedy, sometimes people go, you know, you could do it this way, or you could kind of flip it and start it with this premise and then make this the button.
01:52:23.000So you're in a dry sponge kind of receptive mode all the time.
01:52:30.000But if all you had was your ideas and you had no other expertise or anything you could call your own, then those ideas you would be very protective of.
01:52:43.000And they're constantly like circling the wagons, protecting their ideas.
01:52:49.000Whereas you're saying, give me a better idea and tell me why I'm wrong so I can flourish.
01:52:57.000Well, this is also the jiu-jitsu philosophy.
01:53:01.000When you learn jiu-jitsu, one thing that you learn is if you are doing something incorrect that leaves you vulnerable, you're going to get caught because other people are going to know that.
01:53:09.000And so someone has to show you, hey, when you're doing that, you're reaching with this arm.
01:53:14.000When you reach with this arm, the guy's going to get head and arm on you.
01:53:16.000And you're like, okay, how should I do this?
01:53:18.000Keep your arm tucked to your chest and use the proper technique.
01:53:21.000If you don't, if you don't listen, if you say, this is the way I do it, I'm going to try to do it.
01:53:25.000You're just going to keep getting caught over and over again and you're not going to advance.
01:53:28.000So everybody understands that there's a reality to positions and technique.
01:53:50.000And then we all like try different things.
01:53:53.000And so that thing of not being married to any ideas is a giant part of the philosophy of jiu-jitsu because all of a sudden there's heel hooks.
01:57:32.000And you are, you know, they do those studies where like Amish kids don't have hay fever and they don't have peanut allergies because they're outside.
01:57:43.000But people who have dogs that are outside dogs who come in are exposed to more stuff and they get sick much less than just indoor dog people.
01:57:54.000And so their immune system is not working out.
01:57:57.000Like your immune system needs to work out like you need to work out.
01:58:35.000And if you're so vulnerable all the time, like literally your gut and your biome and your bacteria need a workout, but your brain needs a little workout, like a little controversy, a little pushback, a little somebody disagreeing with you.
01:58:53.000And if it's all bubble wrap and Purel and microaggressions, you have no system.
01:59:01.000That's a really good point about the diseases, about getting sick, about just your health in general.
01:59:07.000Like being sterile and living on a street all the time, like stepping on concrete, never being exposed to nature at all.
01:59:13.000If you're a total city person, you're probably lacking in a very crucial vitamin to being a human being, which is our exposure to some kind of nature.
01:59:23.000Well, and it's always Madison Avenue who's trying to sell it to the housewives, right?
01:59:29.000Because they show them wiping everything down, right?
01:59:34.000She would take Lysol, spray it all over the place, and it's always them wiping it down.
01:59:40.000And then disease is some kind of weird green animation that's evil, you know, and then the good mom wipes it down and cleans.
01:59:48.000And she's always slathering the kid with something.
01:59:51.000And it's all the like shampoo and all the soaps and all the antibacterial.
01:59:55.000It's like this huge business of trying to scare the moms into buying all this shit to prove they love their children and they love themselves.
02:02:23.000So, one of the dumbest things that I know grapplers have done, they get some sort of an infection, and then what they do is they wash themselves with antibiotic soap.
02:02:32.000Well, you are just torching all of the healthy bacteria around your skin, and you're just putting poison all over your skin, which is an organ.
02:02:50.000Well, I mean, if you think about how many people have peanut allergies now versus what we grew up with, because I've never heard of anyone being allergic to peanut butter when I was a kid.
02:04:09.000Remember, they used to hand out peanuts in airplanes and they stopped doing it because people got so bad with peanut allergies that the peanut dust was dangerous.
02:04:18.000And so what is going on in the last 20 minutes?
02:07:02.000And they just go, there's nothing better.
02:07:04.000Like it's not that we don't know there's credit cards and big homes and nice cars.
02:07:11.000Like I knew about all of it, but it wasn't for me or it wasn't for my family and it wasn't for my friends.
02:07:18.000And you just buy into a system where you go, well, this is it.
02:07:22.000And you do it early and it's stifling, I think.
02:07:27.000And it's very difficult to break out unless you find a thing that you do, maybe a sport where you travel and go to different places and meet different people, something.
02:07:37.000You get involved in something where you tap into a community of people that think differently.
02:07:42.000You start a band, you know, whatever it is.
02:07:45.000If you find a thing where there's a bunch of sort of forward-minded people that are, you know, optimistic and have a good work ethic that's contagious.
02:07:54.000But if you're just stuck in your neighborhood with the same people and the same family members that have, that are real negative, it's a giant problem because they program you, whether you realize it or not.
02:08:04.000As much as you want to pretend you're wholly and entirely independent, no one is.
02:08:09.000Everyone is at least partially dependent upon the people they surround themselves with and the energy of the people they surround themselves with.
02:11:31.000Like I wanted a cool car, but I had to drive a truck with a lumber rack and a bed box on it because I'm a carpenter and I can't have a sports car because you can't put plywood in a sports cart, you know?
02:11:43.000So I would talk to these young guys and I'd go, you a car guy?
02:11:46.000And they go, nah, I don't really like, I go, what do you like?
02:12:19.000Don't you think that some people are just internally motivated anyway because they become curious about something and they really want to get good at it?
02:12:26.000Like that's an inherent part of being a person?
02:12:29.000One of the most interesting things, and I don't know why, it just stuck with me from years ago, but I was watching one of those like 2020 shows or 48 hours or something like that.
02:12:40.000And they were showing guys who trained dogs, like dogs who sniffed out gunpowder at the airport or contraband or whatever, you know?
02:12:53.000And I was looking at this thing and I was thinking to myself, I was like, every time there's a dog that does something, sniffs out drugs or explosives or whatever, they're all different breeds of dogs.
02:13:06.000And I was like, why are they all different breeds of dogs?
02:13:09.000Like, why isn't there like one dog that does all super good at gunpowder and cocaine and whatever?
02:13:16.000And in the show, they go, well, we just go down to the pound.
02:13:19.000We get any dog and then we can train them.
02:13:22.000And the guy goes, well, how do you know what dog to get?
02:14:53.000If I have a day where I do not work out my brain, I don't think as quickly, it doesn't work as well, i'm more irritable.
02:15:01.000Um uh, maybe I don't react the same way that I would if I was more calm and relaxed after a workout.
02:15:07.000There's a lot of things going on where it balances out your mind and your ability to think.
02:15:13.000It alleviates anxiety, lets you think more clearly, and one of the things that writers like to say.
02:15:18.000It's one of the and I was actually just talking to someone about this yesterday.
02:15:22.000A comic does this, after you write, to go for a walk.
02:15:27.000Go for a walk and get your blood pumping.
02:15:29.000And when you go for a walk, sometimes when you're thinking about those ideas, new ideas will just pop into your head, because it's like the seeds are already planted.
02:15:36.000Now go for a walk, you're watering them, like it's.
02:15:38.000The whole system works together and if you want to have energy, if you want to have a motor well, the the best way to have a motor is to have a physical body that works well.
02:15:46.000If your physical body doesn't work well, you're gonna.
02:15:49.000You're tired all the time and you could say it's, oh, i'm getting older, i'm getting this like a lot of it is just ignoring your physical body for too long and it atrophies, just like your body.
02:16:04.000You need to pick things up and move them around, because if you don't, you can't pick things up and move them around because your body thinks you never have to do that.
02:16:11.000I agree, and I also would add, you need curiosity.
02:16:17.000Yes, you're a curious person and all the curious people I know are doing just fine, and then there's people I know they're just not curious and that's a weird gift, I guess it's.
02:16:31.000I I don't know how to make someone curious I, I think as a comedian, you're it's, you're sort of curious, you know, and I could remember, even when I was young, i'd go, what's the difference between?
02:16:48.000You know why they call it a sofa or a couch?
02:16:50.000What's the difference between a sofa and a couch?
02:18:14.000Like they just sort of were who they are.
02:18:18.000And I think you can take something like a motor that's like a little too much and guide it and sort of nurture it and figure out an outlet for it, you know, like a sport or something.
02:18:33.000And there's things you can do, but like my sister is totally different than I am.
02:18:40.000And I didn't get this way or that way.
02:18:42.000My parents didn't instill anything in me.
02:19:25.000Like where we had to create it to go, well, grandpa's in a better place now and he's been reunited with his old golden retriever who died eight years earlier.
02:19:35.000And we're just kind of constructing a thing because we need some control.
02:19:39.000Like we need to feel like not having control is really threatening to a lot of people.
02:19:53.000I don't, I realized, I realize when I'm racing a car and the car goes out of control, which has happened a few times, I sort of just relax.
02:20:05.000I don't try to grab and overcorrect and because you'll get in more trouble.
02:20:10.000Like there's a version of this for sports.
02:20:16.000There's a version for driving race cars.
02:20:19.000But to sort of relax, like if you can, you can see film of me spinning a 935 backwards in a race in the middle of the race and you can see me.
02:20:36.000I mean, sort of religious control or like, here's the way I control my kid.
02:20:41.000I get him violin lessons and then I take him to the French tutor and then I take him to this camp and space camp and that camp, you know, and they're trying to do something.
02:20:52.000You have to just kind of admit they kind of are who they are.
02:21:01.000You can molest them and get them, you know, hooked on Vicoden or something when they're 14.
02:21:07.000Basically, you're there to be there and not fuck them up and to offer things and try to go.
02:21:16.000You know, if you see your kid banging on pots and pans all day, you go, somebody needs a drum kit because I think this is what I think this is what your thing is.
02:21:26.000And somebody probably should have got a hold of me and went, seems like comedy may be something you'd like, not swinging a hammer.
02:21:35.000But I figured it out because it was there.
02:21:38.000Well, nobody could ever really give you that advice, honestly, because the problem is most people that aren't involved in it don't even know where to start, how you would do it, how difficult it would be, how long the process is, what is it like to actually put together an activity?
02:21:51.000No, I don't, I don't, I don't think your mom or your dad can craft a good tight 20-minute set for you.
02:21:59.000No, but I'm saying they never encourage you to do it.
02:22:02.000Very few parents would encourage their kid to take such a risky approach to life.
02:22:24.000Maybe the mom is, you know, who knows?
02:22:26.000But maybe they're just not into risk at all and they just want you to go to school and get a degree and you're just annoying and then they go, maybe we should take him to a doctor.
02:22:52.000They'll like sports or whatever it is.
02:22:55.000And then your job is to sort of go that way and help facilitate that.
02:23:02.000And conversely, like I grew up, I started playing Pop Warner football when I was seven.
02:23:09.000Like I played tackle football when I was seven and I played my whole life or my whole, you know, until I was 19 or something.
02:23:16.000And I always was like, every good lesson I ever got was on that football field, man.
02:23:21.000Like everything I learned, all my, whatever success I have, I owe it to that because I got intestinal fortitude.
02:23:29.000I learned a lot of tough lessons and now I use that.
02:23:32.000And so like I, I was like, if my son is going to play football because he's going to learn all those valuable lessons I've learned.
02:23:39.000My son didn't play any football, didn't really like it, and it wasn't his thing.
02:23:44.000And I didn't force him into it at all.
02:23:46.000I was just like, all the stuff that I was into, football, cars, wrenching on cars, race cars, you know, that kind of stuff, swinging a hammer, building architecture.
02:25:09.000Well, you know, the thing that's kind of cool about where you landed is it's organic in the sense that like I ran into someone who I went to high school with and I like asked him what he's doing.
02:25:52.000Or is it just because your dad did it and it's lucrative and whatever?
02:25:57.000And the thing that I'm happy about, at least as it pertains to stand-up or comedy or whatever, cars or whatever I'm into, it's all organic.
02:26:10.000There's no dad was a comedian or dad raced cars or dad had.
02:26:15.000You're just into cars because you're into cars.
02:26:17.000You're into doing a podcast because you enjoy it.
02:26:20.000So you know you're where you should be because you didn't get sort of artificially coaxed or pushed into something where it's just kind of like, yeah, I'm a doctor because my dad is a doctor or a lawyer, like whatever that thing is.
02:27:50.000But it's sort of like if you worked at a big company and the president was vegan and you started showing up with a ham sandwich for lunch and someone's like, I don't think you should eat that in front of Gary.
02:28:41.000And so it's not like anyone, it's not like the boss showed up and went, you can't eat chicken anymore.
02:28:46.000It's understood what's going on around there.
02:28:51.000And if you're working for CNN and you just walk in and you go, hey, listen, I don't agree with Trump about everything, but I think he's right about this Ivermectin thing.
02:29:00.000People start looking at you sideways and you'd get the idea that maybe you weren't long for that job.
02:29:06.000And that's what you got to deal with in any environment, you know?
02:29:11.000And the thing that's nice about creating your own environment is back to being organic.
02:29:39.000I think we're so obsessed with not being cast out.
02:29:46.000You know, being cast out is like a major human thing, you know, and I've realized like I remember, I always bring it up on my podcast, but I don't know why, but I was in Maui and with the Brady family.
02:30:04.000I was in Maui, you know, it was 10 years ago.
02:30:07.000And I was sitting at a table having brunch with like a bunch of nice people we traveled to Maui with, you know, the couples and the kids and go to the resort and it's the dads and the moms and there's like 10 adults and everyone brings their kids and all that.
02:30:22.000And we're sitting having brunch and we're like enjoying ourselves.
02:30:25.000And somehow someone fired up a leaf blower in the back, you know, some gardener off to the side.
02:32:20.000I'm just telling you leaf blowers are illegal, but they're used all day, every day, because the city won't enforce the law because they don't like the optics of it.
02:32:31.000And everyone's like having problems with me.
02:32:52.000They didn't know anything about leaf blowers or laws or city council.
02:32:55.000They just realized that I was the one being thrown out of the tribe and they wanted to stay in the tribe.
02:33:03.000So everyone took a subject they didn't know shit about and turned on the guy who knew something about it and said he was bad and should go out to the cornfield because they were all, and this is socially, it's like no one was going to lose their job.
02:33:17.000They were just eating brunch, but it all kicked in.
02:33:21.000And I could see like the wives who had no thoughts about leaf blowers, like going, yeah, man, I don't agree.
02:33:26.000And the chairs are like scooching away from me and stuff.
02:33:29.000And I thought, oh, I'm being thrown out of the tribe.
02:33:32.000And that's when I realized that was just about leafblowers.
02:33:37.000Now we go to COVID and it's a real deal now, that feeling of not wanting to be excommunicated from the tribe.
02:33:46.000And it's so easy to get everyone to go along with everything because we have that innate baked in human quality of not wanting to be ostracized and pushed out of the tribe.
02:34:00.000And I also started to realize that you're good at what you do.
02:34:09.000And so you can say and do what you want.
02:34:14.000Most people are mediocre at what they do and they can't afford to be unpopular.
02:34:22.000And this is something I sort of, I was talking to Greg Gutfeld about it some years ago.
02:34:28.000I was just doing a podcast with him and I was interviewing him and it started to kind of dawn on me that like when you're really good and you could be a really good carpenter.
02:34:39.000Like if you're a really master carpenter, you're never out of work.
02:34:43.000No one cares a shit what your thoughts are about politics or COVID.
02:36:05.000I'm going to open a restaurant, but you're not that good, you'll get into trouble.
02:36:09.000And most people are sort of living in the middle and kind of fearful.
02:36:15.000But if you're good and you kind of own it and you're calibrated and you know you're good, then you can kind of say what you want and you can kind of do what you want, but you have to be good.
02:36:28.000And like all the people that were sort of in mainstream media that like broke out and started doing their own thing were good.
02:36:37.000I mean, they thought they were good and they thought they were good enough.
02:36:40.000When you're in the middle, it's vulnerable.
02:36:44.000You got to kind of watch yourself and mind your P's and Q's.
02:36:49.000It's also that thing that you were talking about, the dinner table, where all those other people who didn't know anything about it were signaling to the tribe that they were, you know, that they didn't want to get cast out.
02:37:23.000And it's also people, people in dignity, like dignity and character, like character used to be something we talked about.
02:37:31.000We don't really talk about character anymore.
02:37:35.000And it's also people like their resting state of a lot of people is weak and kind of like a little disappointing.
02:37:45.000And it's, it's, it's like, I think guys that are have like high character people and also stoic type people are kind of really always disappointed by people.
02:38:01.000Like you're probably a pretty stoic guy and you see how people act and you go, oh, like, like it's sad.
02:38:12.000And it's sort of, I don't know why, but it reminded me, but when I lived in Santa Monica million years ago, somebody got their purse stolen out on the street at night.
02:38:25.000I was this poor guy living in a rent control apartment, swinging a hammer, you know, driving a Zuzu trooper.
02:41:43.000And most people don't really have any moments like that in their life where they can go, oh, remember that time that guy had the purse and he ran down the street and we tackled him?
02:42:24.000Well, it definitely is, but it's also a symptom of a lack of being tested.
02:42:28.000You know, the people, all the people that I know that, like, I always say this about MMA fighters, they're like the nicest people you're ever going to run into because they don't have to test themselves with you.
02:42:40.000No, there's something about the boxer and the fighter and those guys that are like so secure in their version or vision of themselves that they're never overcompensating with a bunch of other horse shit.
02:42:59.000And I sort of always like those guys and I've always found it to be that way, like being in boxing gyms and stuff.
02:43:08.000Like the movie version of the boxing gym is, hey, tough guy, you know, whatever.
02:43:13.000The rallies is people are like, I could remember like back in the day, like the bell, you know, because you're on a bell.
02:43:21.000You know, the whole gym was on a bell, right?
02:43:22.000Like three minutes and then one minute off or whatever.
02:43:25.000Like sometimes you'd go walking up to a heavy bag because you didn't think the guy was on it.
02:43:30.000And then some huge dude would come up and go, oh, I'm sorry, I was working on that bag.
02:44:08.000And I was going to tell you that, you know, when people like, there's so many weird, soft sort of dudes like transitioning and all that shit.
02:44:18.000And then there's these sort of carnivore meat lovers, MMA guys going on.
02:45:43.000It's a great way to look at the world right now.
02:45:46.000And it's certainly a symptom of going one way or the other.
02:45:53.000But I always wonder, is it the nature of the nurture thing?
02:45:55.000Like, is there something wrong with not just society, but also the environment that we are creating more biological organisms that are susceptible to weakness?
02:46:06.000You know, like not just physical weakness, but emotional and psychological weakness.
02:46:10.000Like there's a thing that's going on that's on top of what's going on as far as culture and society.
02:46:16.000And that's like microplastics in people's diets.
02:46:19.000They're just destroying their endocrine systems.
02:47:01.000Like, hey, man, if you're a coal miner or you work on a farm and there's bales of hay and you got to check, you can't have a wimpy guy throwing bales of hay up under the loft, you know, but everything is computerized and air conditioned and you're in your cubicle.
02:49:19.000Why do you need big biceps to move a joystick or push a button?
02:49:23.000And the only reason why it's attractive, if you don't need it, is like a biological reproduction attractiveness, right?
02:49:31.000The hips of a girl, the waist, the beautiful symmetry of the face, all that stuff is just biological reinforced to get you to breed with good genetic people.
02:49:41.000But if all that's out the window and all breeding is done through some sort of a computer or something along those lines.
02:49:48.000But also, why do you need any of it if it's antiquated?
02:50:22.000And I think doing things that are hard to do are good.
02:50:26.000And I think doing things that scare you are good.
02:50:29.000And I've had a bunch of situations in my life where people, like people would say to me all the time, they'd go, what made you decide to do dancing with the stars?
02:52:34.000Like my whole time I was a carpenter, I remember guys pulling up in new trucks and I'm driving a piece of shit beater and they're like, Adam, why don't you go down to Galpin Ford and get yourself a new truck?
02:52:44.000And I'm like, because then I'd have payments and then I'd have insurance and then I couldn't go to the groundlings at night and I'd have to take care of that and I couldn't work on this.
02:52:55.000And I felt the same way with kids and the same way with everything.
02:52:59.000Like I got to get this going before I get weighed down with monthly payments and mortgages and mouths to feed.