The Joe Rogan Experience - December 23, 2025


Joe Rogan Experience #2429 - Tom Segura


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 50 minutes

Words per Minute

197.55612

Word Count

33,736

Sentence Count

4,046

Misogynist Sentences

34

Hate Speech Sentences

49


Summary

In this episode of Train My Day, I sit down with Joe Rogan to talk about his weight loss journey, how he got to where he is now, and how he's doing it. Joe has lost over 80 pounds in less than a year and a half, dropping from a weight of 265 pounds to 185 pounds. He talks about how he did it, what he's eating to get there, and why he thinks it's the most important thing he can do.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan experience.
00:00:06.000 Train my day, Joe Rogan.
00:00:07.000 Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:12.000 Is that hat your croissant with croissant company?
00:00:14.000 Bro, those croissants are real fucking pretty.
00:00:16.000 Bro, the shit, aren't they?
00:00:17.000 I was going to eat one bite.
00:00:18.000 This is what's left.
00:00:20.000 I was like, I'll have a bite.
00:00:21.000 They're so good, man.
00:00:22.000 Too buttery.
00:00:23.000 How can a guy lose as much weight as you lost and then open up a fucking baker?
00:00:27.000 Because I started with them when I was so fat.
00:00:29.000 It was perfect.
00:00:31.000 Like, I fell in love with that place when I was close to my fattest.
00:00:34.000 And I was like, this is a match made in heaven.
00:00:36.000 How big were you when you were your fattest?
00:00:37.000 The most I ever weighed was 265.
00:00:40.000 Holy shit.
00:00:41.000 Yeah.
00:00:42.000 And what do you know?
00:00:42.000 187.
00:00:43.000 That's insane.
00:00:44.000 Yeah, so that's like, what, 80 pounds?
00:00:46.000 What does that feel like on your joints?
00:00:47.000 Feels great.
00:00:48.000 I feel so much better.
00:00:49.000 I feel so much better.
00:00:50.000 Of course.
00:00:51.000 I'm lifting four days a week.
00:00:52.000 Wow.
00:00:53.000 Yeah, I just lifted this morning.
00:00:55.000 Do you have a trainer?
00:00:55.000 Do you keep going solo?
00:00:56.000 No?
00:00:57.000 Yeah.
00:00:57.000 Meets me there every day or every day that I'm there.
00:00:59.000 Do you do that for accountability?
00:01:01.000 You know, I just realized that I mean, I've trained enough now where I can do a good workout on my own, but I always feel like it's never as good as when he's there.
00:01:13.000 It's all, you know what I mean?
00:01:14.000 Like, it's always a little bit harder, and I always feel like it's a better workout when he's there.
00:01:20.000 Yeah.
00:01:20.000 He pushes me, Sean.
00:01:20.000 Yeah.
00:01:22.000 So you've been with him for a while?
00:01:24.000 I've been with him for, yeah, for years.
00:01:26.000 The other difference, the big difference is that I've been, I dialed in not with croissants, but I've dialed in my nutrition a lot more.
00:01:33.000 Like I eat four times a day now, and I'm on top of my macros.
00:01:36.000 You know what I mean?
00:01:37.000 Things I've never done before.
00:01:38.000 Why do you ever four times a day?
00:01:39.000 This nutritionist just gave me this plan and I've been just doing it.
00:01:43.000 So I eat 50 grams of protein at every, at each of those four, you know, four different meals.
00:01:43.000 Interesting.
00:01:43.000 Yeah.
00:01:50.000 Okay.
00:01:50.000 So I end up getting 200 grams.
00:01:52.000 So you do smaller meals that are lower in calories but high in protein?
00:01:58.000 Yeah.
00:01:59.000 And then I also carb cycle.
00:01:59.000 Yep.
00:02:03.000 So like I know on a and like if like today was legs, I know that it's a more intense workout.
00:02:10.000 I'll do the full portions of these carbs, right?
00:02:13.000 Which sometimes is sweet potatoes or white rice.
00:02:16.000 But on a day, if I'm like, if it's a rest day or I'm doing like less intense workout, I'll dial back how much of those carbs I eat.
00:02:24.000 Hmm.
00:02:25.000 Do you take a pre-workout?
00:02:27.000 I have a pre-workout meal every time.
00:02:30.000 So like in the morning, I've been getting up at 5.30.
00:02:33.000 So I get it.
00:02:34.000 Yeah.
00:02:34.000 What?
00:02:35.000 What the fuck are you doing, man?
00:02:36.000 I mean, because I've been in the writer's room on season two of Bad Thoughts.
00:02:40.000 So I've been getting up at 5.30.
00:02:43.000 And my pre-workout meal are these like, I guess it's like musili kind of like grains, you know, with some honey, a little bit of almond butter, and then I have Greek yogurt with a scoop of whey protein.
00:02:59.000 So that's my pre-workout.
00:03:01.000 And after that, I go to the gym.
00:03:03.000 And then during the workout, I sometimes have an intra-workout shake.
00:03:07.000 Sometimes I just.
00:03:08.000 Yeah.
00:03:09.000 Wow.
00:03:09.000 Yeah.
00:03:10.000 But I mean, I feel much better doing it that way.
00:03:13.000 I do.
00:03:14.000 And then, and then I eat again about an hour after that workout.
00:03:18.000 So that's my second meal.
00:03:20.000 Then a few hours later is three.
00:03:21.000 And then my fourth one is like around six.
00:03:23.000 So you have your second meal by the time it's like 8 a.m.
00:03:26.000 Maybe like 9.30.
00:03:28.000 Yeah.
00:03:29.000 That's so crazy.
00:03:30.000 Yeah.
00:03:30.000 What time are you going to bed at night?
00:03:32.000 Well, that's the key to this whole fucking thing.
00:03:35.000 That's the key to the whole thing is that you go, to do this, I got to do this.
00:03:39.000 And to do that, I got to do that.
00:03:41.000 And to do that, I got to get up early.
00:03:43.000 And the only way I can get up early is by staying on top of when I go to bed.
00:03:47.000 You know, when we met, I was going to bed at 3 o'clock in the morning.
00:03:50.000 Normal stuff.
00:03:51.000 And I would get up at like 11.
00:03:51.000 Yeah.
00:03:53.000 Yeah.
00:03:53.000 Like a normal person.
00:03:54.000 Like a normal person.
00:03:55.000 And then I would say in the last decade, a lot of my bedtime kind of shifted to like around midnight.
00:04:01.000 And then it shifted to like a little bit like closer to 11.
00:04:05.000 In the last few months, like sticking to this plan, I've started to go to bed sometimes at like 10, 10.30, which for me is like very early.
00:04:17.000 It's very hard.
00:04:18.000 It's the biggest challenge for me has been to get to bed.
00:04:22.000 That's hard for me.
00:04:23.000 That's hard.
00:04:24.000 That would be hard.
00:04:25.000 But I also, I don't think I'm going to be getting up at 5.30 forever.
00:04:28.000 This is just writer's room stuff.
00:04:29.000 This is just writer's room stuff.
00:04:30.000 Normally you get up when, 8?
00:04:32.000 7.
00:04:33.000 Yeah, between 7 and 8.
00:04:34.000 That's reasonable.
00:04:35.000 That's reasonable.
00:04:35.000 And I don't have to go to bed at 10 to do that.
00:04:38.000 When my kids are in school, I get up at 7-ish.
00:04:38.000 Yeah.
00:04:42.000 And then, yeah, usually between 7 and 7.15, depending on when they have to leave.
00:04:49.000 And then when they're not in school, like right now, today I got up at 8, which is pretty normal.
00:04:53.000 8 feels good.
00:04:54.000 It's pretty normal for me.
00:04:55.000 I got up around 7.30 today.
00:04:57.000 If I don't work out first thing in the morning, though, it used to be I used to like working out at night because in jiu-jitsu I'd always like doing it at night.
00:05:05.000 Morning classes were tough.
00:05:06.000 Tough to get in there early and train.
00:05:08.000 And also you don't feel warmed up and you fucking feel like everything's going to get hurt.
00:05:12.000 Yeah.
00:05:13.000 But nighttime, I can't work out anymore.
00:05:17.000 I can't do that.
00:05:18.000 I've completely changed in this regard.
00:05:19.000 I'm too busy.
00:05:20.000 I used to say, well, I will say that like, I feel like my strongest between like 11 and 1, like the middle of the day, is when if you were like, draw up an ideal strength time, that's when I feel like I'm like, oh, that's when I'm at my best.
00:05:33.000 Why do you think that is?
00:05:34.000 I think you're fired up.
00:05:37.000 You're warmed up.
00:05:38.000 And I feel good.
00:05:38.000 And you're ready to go.
00:05:39.000 You've got a little food.
00:05:40.000 I feel good.
00:05:41.000 But I've pivoted to now really enjoying these first thing in the morning workouts where I feel like my whole day is set when I have those workouts.
00:05:50.000 And I also realize that if I don't, I feel so much different throughout that day.
00:05:55.000 Right.
00:05:56.000 That's a good factor.
00:05:58.000 One, you get that first big win in the morning.
00:06:00.000 Yeah.
00:06:00.000 You got it done.
00:06:02.000 You got good momentum going.
00:06:03.000 But also you're more calm.
00:06:05.000 Yeah.
00:06:05.000 That's the big one.
00:06:06.000 That's the big one.
00:06:07.000 And focused, right?
00:06:08.000 When we did that sober October thing, we were all doing crazy cardio.
00:06:12.000 One thing you said to me that really rang true is like, it totally silences all that internal chatter.
00:06:19.000 Yeah, it does.
00:06:20.000 Yeah.
00:06:20.000 Yeah.
00:06:20.000 And I think one thing about the writer's room is that, you know, you have to be alert.
00:06:27.000 You have to be focused.
00:06:28.000 You can't have all this shit, like the noise going on.
00:06:28.000 Right.
00:06:31.000 So it was a great way to show up to the room is like you have that win, you've done something hard and now I'm ready to work.
00:06:40.000 Yeah.
00:06:40.000 For me, it's not just a hard workout, but generally has to have some cardio in it.
00:06:46.000 Really?
00:06:46.000 Yeah.
00:06:47.000 Cardio is what really shuts off all the chatter.
00:06:50.000 It is different than the weightlifting.
00:06:52.000 Yeah, weightlifting is great.
00:06:53.000 Weightlifting makes you feel better.
00:06:55.000 Like you feel like energized.
00:06:57.000 You feel like, oh, I feel good.
00:06:58.000 But cardio is like, I don't give a fuck.
00:07:01.000 Like when I have a really hard cardio session, it's like, I don't give a fuck.
00:07:01.000 Yeah.
00:07:05.000 I don't give a fuck what's going on.
00:07:06.000 Everything's fine.
00:07:07.000 I noticed the difference between, because I was doing 45-minute cardio sessions and when I upped it to an hour, the 15-minute difference for me felt like another hour.
00:07:18.000 Like pushing it 15 more minutes was really, really hard.
00:07:22.000 Well, that's when it's hardest, when you're tired already.
00:07:24.000 Yeah.
00:07:24.000 You know, when you're extending your cardio capability.
00:07:27.000 That's fucking hard, man.
00:07:29.000 That was hard.
00:07:30.000 It's so important.
00:07:31.000 It's so important to do.
00:07:32.000 Oh, yeah.
00:07:33.000 You want to wonder why so many people are out of their fucking minds.
00:07:33.000 It's everything.
00:07:36.000 That's a big part of it.
00:07:37.000 They don't work hard.
00:07:38.000 I got so obsessed with some of these data and metrics about this.
00:07:42.000 Oh.
00:07:42.000 Yeah.
00:07:43.000 That becomes a problem.
00:07:44.000 Yeah, well, I don't mean like that like I have to do, but like just the data that people are talking about as people age of like if you're not lifting and your bone density goes down or like your VO2 Mac, like learning about that stuff and going like, if you don't start thinking about that at a certain age, one day it will be like so out of your grasp.
00:08:08.000 I was just having this conversation with Shane Gillis.
00:08:10.000 I was like, you have to realize like 20 years goes by so fast because I'm 20 years older than him.
00:08:15.000 And I'm like, 20 years ago, I, like, that happened.
00:08:19.000 It was yesterday.
00:08:20.000 Yeah.
00:08:20.000 And all of a sudden I'm 58.
00:08:22.000 And 20 years from now, I'm 78.
00:08:24.000 That's dead.
00:08:24.000 Yeah.
00:08:25.000 Like, that's almost dead.
00:08:26.000 Yeah.
00:08:26.000 Like, and you can either be almost dead and look like RFK Jr., or you could be almost dead and look like Trump.
00:08:33.000 Yeah.
00:08:34.000 It's kind of the same thing.
00:08:35.000 Yeah.
00:08:36.000 They're in the same neighborhood.
00:08:37.000 And you have a choice.
00:08:38.000 Trump's only seven or eight years older than RFK Jr.
00:08:41.000 He doesn't look like it.
00:08:42.000 No.
00:08:43.000 Yeah.
00:08:44.000 And that guy did heroin for 14 fucking years.
00:08:47.000 Who did?
00:08:47.000 RFK Jr.
00:08:48.000 He did heroin?
00:08:49.000 Oh, yeah.
00:08:50.000 After his dad was assassinated.
00:08:51.000 He was a heroin addict?
00:08:52.000 Yeah.
00:08:53.000 No, shit.
00:08:54.000 Yeah.
00:08:54.000 When he was young.
00:08:56.000 People give him a hard time about it.
00:08:57.000 Like, hey, yo, his fucking dad got shot in front of him.
00:09:01.000 Yeah.
00:09:01.000 His dad, who was running for president, got assassinated.
00:09:04.000 Yeah, that's when he was a little kid.
00:09:07.000 Come on.
00:09:08.000 You wouldn't do heroin?
00:09:10.000 You have no idea what you would do.
00:09:11.000 And his uncle got shot in the head in front of the whole world.
00:09:14.000 Yeah, I mean.
00:09:15.000 Well, not in front of the whole world.
00:09:16.000 It wasn't in front of the whole world until several years later, but.
00:09:19.000 He looks incredible.
00:09:20.000 He looks great.
00:09:20.000 Yeah.
00:09:21.000 He did 20 chin-ups in a row.
00:09:23.000 I saw that.
00:09:24.000 At 70, whatever the fuck he is.
00:09:25.000 That's very impressive.
00:09:26.000 That's insane.
00:09:27.000 Yeah.
00:09:27.000 Yeah.
00:09:28.000 Modern science for the win.
00:09:30.000 Now, yeah.
00:09:30.000 Yeah.
00:09:31.000 I mean, yeah.
00:09:32.000 I think about it all the time.
00:09:33.000 Because I think the same way.
00:09:34.000 20 years goes by real fast.
00:09:36.000 It's so fast, dude.
00:09:36.000 Like that.
00:09:38.000 Before you know it.
00:09:39.000 It's like there's guys that like never got going with their life or they got distracted with stupid shit and they never really like focused on whatever it is they do with their careers.
00:09:51.000 And then you see them 20 years later, they're in their late 40s and they're fucking scrambling and depressed.
00:09:56.000 I'm friends with so many of them, dude.
00:09:58.000 Oh, it's a problem.
00:09:59.000 I'm friends with so many of them.
00:10:00.000 Like I'm in that age pocket where it's like a lot of my friends are in that like.
00:10:05.000 They never did anything.
00:10:06.000 Yeah, and they're really, they're really scrambling.
00:10:08.000 Yeah, and they're really desperate.
00:10:09.000 And then they want help, which is like, hey, I can't fucking hold your hand.
00:10:14.000 Exactly.
00:10:14.000 You did this to yourself.
00:10:16.000 Like, you should have paid attention to what we were all doing all those years ago.
00:10:20.000 It's unnerving, too, when some of them, like, I have friends who are like, you're like, dude, like, we're in our 40s.
00:10:27.000 Yeah.
00:10:28.000 And you're, you're, and the thing is, the worst part about it is you realize how much of it is dictated by fear.
00:10:34.000 Like, they're just scared to do things.
00:10:36.000 It's like someone who's scared to step in the gym or something, right?
00:10:39.000 You're like, you're just scared to get your, to take that step to do something.
00:10:43.000 Scared to be uncomfortable is what it is.
00:10:45.000 Yeah, that's the thing.
00:10:45.000 Yeah.
00:10:46.000 It's like most people are scared to be uncomfortable.
00:10:48.000 So they're scared to sit down in front of their computer and write.
00:10:50.000 They don't write because they're scared to be, I don't, the writing thing is the weirdest one.
00:10:55.000 Fear of the unknown.
00:10:56.000 Because I don't understand why that's even uncomfortable.
00:10:59.000 But it is.
00:11:00.000 It is.
00:11:00.000 I get it.
00:11:01.000 I avoid it sometimes.
00:11:02.000 I come home and I'm like, I really should write, but I could watch YouTube.
00:11:05.000 Yeah.
00:11:06.000 And then I'll fucking sit in front of the TV.
00:11:07.000 I'm like, I earned this.
00:11:08.000 Yeah.
00:11:09.000 And then I'll watch YouTube.
00:11:10.000 Anything to not do it.
00:11:12.000 You look for distractions.
00:11:13.000 The nights that I come home and I write, though, I always feel way better.
00:11:16.000 I feel better going to bed and I feel better at getting up.
00:11:19.000 I'm like, I did what I was supposed to do.
00:11:21.000 Yay.
00:11:21.000 Yay.
00:11:22.000 Everything's going good.
00:11:23.000 Yeah, you're right.
00:11:24.000 When I just watch some fucking random YouTube video on ancient history, it's like, okay, why am I falling asleep at two in the morning and forcing myself to finish this fucking hour and 50-minute documentary on Syria?
00:11:24.000 Yeah.
00:11:37.000 I do it fucking all the time.
00:11:38.000 I'm like, here's another murder doc.
00:11:40.000 I'll just watch this.
00:11:41.000 Oh my God, it's all I watch.
00:11:43.000 You know what I found out too?
00:11:45.000 I was, I found out in the writer's room, and I didn't realize this until I talked it out.
00:11:49.000 We were talking about, you know, like, because sometimes you're like, what about this idea?
00:11:54.000 Right.
00:11:55.000 And someone will be like, well, you know, on that episode of like 30 Rock or something, and I'll be like, oh, I never saw that.
00:11:55.000 Right.
00:12:01.000 And they go, you never saw 30 Rock?
00:12:03.000 And I'm like, no.
00:12:04.000 And then they go, oh, well, you know, like on The Office.
00:12:06.000 I go, I never watched The Office.
00:12:07.000 I'm like, you didn't watch The Office.
00:12:08.000 And then I started talking.
00:12:09.000 I was like, oh, I've never watched any of these shows.
00:12:12.000 And they're like, what?
00:12:13.000 And I go, yeah, I guess I just don't like comedy.
00:12:18.000 And they're like, what are you talking about?
00:12:19.000 I was like, dude, I've never seen The Office, 30 Rock, Sunny, all like the huge comedies of the last 20 years.
00:12:27.000 I've never seen them.
00:12:28.000 I haven't seen them either.
00:12:29.000 And I'm like, well, I go, my ration, my thinking is not that I don't like comedy.
00:12:33.000 It's that it's like, you know, you, I'm on stage all the time.
00:12:37.000 I'm doing comedy.
00:12:38.000 My friends are comedians.
00:12:39.000 We're talking comedy.
00:12:40.000 When I get home and I want to watch something, I don't want to watch that.
00:12:43.000 I want to watch something else.
00:12:44.000 Exactly.
00:12:45.000 That's exactly how I think of it.
00:12:46.000 I want to watch dramas, thrillers.
00:12:48.000 Something's interesting.
00:12:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:12:50.000 Stranger things.
00:12:51.000 Yeah, so I just end up never.
00:12:52.000 They're like, this is pretty crazy, though.
00:12:54.000 You're in a room of comedy writers and you've never watched an episode of comedy.
00:12:58.000 I'm like, yeah, I guess that is kind of weird.
00:13:01.000 I watched them when I was on one.
00:13:03.000 You know, I watched other sitcoms to see what they were doing differently.
00:13:06.000 Because it was kind of a new thing for me.
00:13:06.000 Yeah.
00:13:08.000 Yeah, that makes sense.
00:13:09.000 But after I was off news radio, I swore off sitcoms too.
00:13:12.000 And but then I did start watching some of them with my family.
00:13:16.000 One of them I watched that I really used to shit on and I was wrong is the Big Bang Theory.
00:13:21.000 Really?
00:13:22.000 Fucking good show, man.
00:13:23.000 I mean, it was a massive hit.
00:13:25.000 I was like, how is this stupid show a massive hit?
00:13:27.000 But it was because I had seen clips online that were like retakes that they did without the laugh track.
00:13:33.000 But if you know, if you ever worked on a sitcom, you know what retakes are.
00:13:36.000 Retakes are brutal.
00:13:38.000 Like you didn't get it right or the writers decided to change something or there's whatever, for whatever reason, you do a bunch of them after the audience leaves.
00:13:46.000 So I saw those without the laugh track and I was like, what is this?
00:13:50.000 Yeah.
00:13:50.000 This is not funny.
00:13:51.000 This is terrible.
00:13:52.000 I'm like, what does this like mundane, boring, fucking drone you to sleep?
00:13:56.000 Then I watched the show, the actual show itself.
00:13:58.000 I was like, oh, this is a really well-written sitcom.
00:14:01.000 Yeah.
00:14:02.000 And it's interesting because the main guy's autistic and he's like totally socially retarded.
00:14:06.000 Yeah.
00:14:07.000 And it's funny, though.
00:14:08.000 But it's all about nerds.
00:14:10.000 It's like, it's a good show.
00:14:12.000 I mean, something that has that, something that gets that popular.
00:14:16.000 Like, this has to have something.
00:14:16.000 Yeah.
00:14:18.000 But that's like stuff that I watch with my family.
00:14:19.000 Like, there's certain shows that I only watch with my family.
00:14:22.000 Really?
00:14:23.000 You know what just happened with our kids?
00:14:23.000 Yeah, that's one of them.
00:14:25.000 Is they started, you know, they had their movies that they always watched.
00:14:31.000 And little kids have just a capacity to re-watch this shit all the time.
00:14:34.000 So you're like, Jesus Christ.
00:14:35.000 I watched Frozen like 80 times.
00:14:37.000 Oh, my God.
00:14:38.000 So many fucking times we watched that.
00:14:40.000 We watched Home Alone a fucking 145 times, right?
00:14:43.000 Which is, I think a lot of people do.
00:14:44.000 But then all of a sudden, we were like, oh, here's The Simpsons.
00:14:48.000 And what we did was we started with episode one of The Simpsons.
00:14:53.000 And what I was so surprised by, I was, because I was taken by just how good the old one, like, we're watching like season one, season two, like the really old ones, where everything, where it took 18 months to produce an episode.
00:14:53.000 Oh, wow.
00:15:06.000 You know, they had to hand draw everything.
00:15:08.000 The writing and the jokes in them are so good and so funny.
00:15:13.000 And you're watching these little dudes like get the jokes and they're, and it's really funny.
00:15:17.000 I mean, it's really good.
00:15:18.000 But we started from the beginning.
00:15:20.000 How many episodes is The Simpsons still on the air, right?
00:15:22.000 I think so.
00:15:23.000 It's like season fucking 42 or some shit.
00:15:26.000 That is so wild.
00:15:27.000 And no one gets old.
00:15:28.000 No.
00:15:29.000 These characters are just cartoons.
00:15:31.000 And now they can do them timely because of technology.
00:15:34.000 So now they can like produce it in a week or something.
00:15:36.000 Oh, that's crazy.
00:15:38.000 Yeah.
00:15:38.000 That's crazy.
00:15:40.000 Because they don't have to hand draw it.
00:15:41.000 Didn't they like farm it all out to fucking South America or something?
00:15:46.000 I'm sure.
00:15:46.000 Yeah, I think they did.
00:15:47.000 Just some Indian people.
00:15:48.000 I think they taught some Asian people how to draw.
00:15:51.000 How to do it.
00:15:52.000 I mean, there's something also that you appreciate about the old animation that's cool.
00:15:56.000 Crunk clunky.
00:15:58.000 Yeah.
00:15:58.000 It doesn't exist in the, but it's still, it's so funny.
00:16:01.000 Like the first South Park.
00:16:02.000 The first South Park was super clunky.
00:16:04.000 Yeah.
00:16:04.000 What would Barry and Boitano do?
00:16:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:08.000 And then they also embraced. that it's supposed to look this certain way, right?
00:16:12.000 Like they, that whole thing was like, it's, it was, they embraced that like the look is not like slick.
00:16:19.000 Yeah.
00:16:19.000 Right.
00:16:20.000 I mean, it's also you can get away with so much more when it's not even remotely realistic.
00:16:24.000 Yeah.
00:16:24.000 Like the time that gay teacher stuffed Paris Hilton up his ass.
00:16:28.000 Like, how could you do that on any other show?
00:16:31.000 Imagine if you said, we're going to do South Park, but with CGI and Real People.
00:16:36.000 They're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:16:37.000 What are you talking about?
00:16:38.000 Kenny's going to die in every episode violently and everyone's going to laugh.
00:16:41.000 No.
00:16:41.000 What?
00:16:42.000 What?
00:16:42.000 Yeah.
00:16:42.000 His brain splattered all over the concrete.
00:16:44.000 Oh my God, you killed Kenny.
00:16:46.000 What?
00:16:47.000 Yeah.
00:16:47.000 It has to be.
00:16:48.000 No, it has to be fake.
00:16:49.000 Fake, yeah.
00:16:50.000 And it has to be fake kids.
00:16:50.000 Yeah.
00:16:52.000 Totally.
00:16:53.000 Because kids are kind of, they bounce off stuff and they get hurt.
00:16:56.000 It's kind of funny.
00:16:57.000 Yeah.
00:16:57.000 They do.
00:16:58.000 Yeah.
00:16:58.000 They just fucking, they don't get hurt as easy.
00:16:59.000 When they get hurt, it's like not that big a deal.
00:17:01.000 They bang into things.
00:17:02.000 Whereas an old person falls in the bathtub, they break a hip and they're dead in a year.
00:17:06.000 My youngest, like, slow falls all the time.
00:17:09.000 And we're like, what the fuck is going on?
00:17:11.000 And he's never hurt.
00:17:12.000 He's practicing.
00:17:13.000 Yeah.
00:17:13.000 He's just like, and he tumbles.
00:17:16.000 Yeah, well, they're fucking made out of, like, they're flexible.
00:17:20.000 All pliable and shit.
00:17:20.000 Yeah.
00:17:21.000 Yeah, the way they, even like the way a kid can sit.
00:17:23.000 And you're like, how are your legs doing that?
00:17:26.000 After a while, shit gets stiff.
00:17:27.000 It gets real stiff.
00:17:28.000 Do you ever do any yoga?
00:17:29.000 I did.
00:17:30.000 Well, remember when we did it?
00:17:30.000 I haven't in a while.
00:17:31.000 I did.
00:17:32.000 It was our first challenge, right?
00:17:33.000 I do.
00:17:34.000 And that was awesome.
00:17:35.000 And then a few, like a year or two ago, I started doing some yoga here.
00:17:40.000 And it was so challenging.
00:17:41.000 I was like, fuck, this is really hard.
00:17:43.000 Was it the same kind or different?
00:17:46.000 Just like, no.
00:17:47.000 It wasn't a hot yoga.
00:17:48.000 It was just like, you know, you're going through all the positions.
00:17:51.000 I don't know how to even describe it.
00:17:53.000 Poses.
00:17:53.000 Yeah, all the poses.
00:17:55.000 And I was like, man, I was, you know, shaking in certain poses.
00:17:58.000 And it was really challenging.
00:18:00.000 And I have not done it in a while.
00:18:01.000 I probably should do it again.
00:18:02.000 Was it the same kind of yoga, though?
00:18:04.000 Or were the poses different?
00:18:05.000 No, the same kind of poses.
00:18:06.000 The same kind of.
00:18:07.000 Yeah, just not hot.
00:18:08.000 Hot's the way to go, though.
00:18:09.000 Hot's rad.
00:18:10.000 Yeah.
00:18:11.000 It's harder.
00:18:12.000 It is.
00:18:13.000 I remember, I did do a hot yoga here in Austin like in July.
00:18:17.000 I was like, this isn't much different than outside right now.
00:18:20.000 And I remember feeling so relieved when I saw somebody tap out of the room before me.
00:18:27.000 I was like, I can't tap out first.
00:18:30.000 Just watching people.
00:18:31.000 Some guy was like, I got to get it.
00:18:32.000 I was like, all right, I'm going to get out of here in a minute.
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00:20:02.000 I remember the first time I did it, I was like, I can't believe how hard this is.
00:20:05.000 I can't believe all these little old ladies are walking into this thing with this rolled-up foam mat.
00:20:10.000 And I'm like, you guys think you're working out?
00:20:12.000 Yeah.
00:20:12.000 Meanwhile, they're working out way harder than me.
00:20:15.000 I was literally getting strangled.
00:20:17.000 And it was easier.
00:20:18.000 I was going to jiu-jitsu and I was getting fucking arm barred.
00:20:22.000 And that was easier than going and fucking stretching my feet out with these little old ladies.
00:20:27.000 And seeing how these mother, like, you'll see somebody who's like physicality is not like that note.
00:20:33.000 Like they look fit, let's say, but you're not like, holy shit, look at this person.
00:20:37.000 And the way that they're holding themselves up on their hands and their whole body's sitting on, you know what I mean?
00:20:43.000 Like their knees are on their elbows.
00:20:44.000 You're like, how the fuck are you holding yourself like this?
00:20:46.000 Yeah, and very impressive.
00:20:48.000 It's a weird, it's an impressive thing that you only know, it's impressive when you try to do it.
00:20:53.000 This is why I have this theory that everybody should try things like that jujitsu, a boxing class, even if you go one time, just once.
00:21:04.000 To have, just so you have an idea of what you don't know.
00:21:04.000 Right.
00:21:08.000 You know what I mean?
00:21:08.000 Right.
00:21:09.000 Because like every dude thinks he can fight.
00:21:11.000 You know, and I'm like, I know my limits so much in that regard because I've been in classes.
00:21:11.000 Right.
00:21:19.000 I've done classes.
00:21:20.000 So I know so much.
00:21:22.000 I'm not an expert, but I know how much I don't know.
00:21:25.000 You know what I mean?
00:21:25.000 Like, I've rolled on, I've done jiu-jitsu classes.
00:21:28.000 I've done boxing classes.
00:21:29.000 And I'm like, oh, these guys can fucking kill me.
00:21:33.000 But you don't know that before you do it.
00:21:35.000 Right.
00:21:36.000 You don't know how hard that shit is.
00:21:37.000 Yeah.
00:21:38.000 You don't know.
00:21:38.000 I mean, like, boxing is a funny one because people think they're like, I could throw a punch.
00:21:43.000 You're like, you don't even have the fundamentals of how to throw a punch.
00:21:46.000 You don't even know how to throw a punch technically.
00:21:48.000 Not only that, how many can you throw before you're totally exhausted?
00:21:51.000 Oh, the exhaustion is real crazy.
00:21:54.000 How many you got in your tank?
00:21:55.000 You got 10?
00:21:56.000 A lot of punches a lot.
00:21:57.000 People like throw, they throw haymakers and they think they're throwing it.
00:22:00.000 You're like, that's not even a punch.
00:22:01.000 Well, it is if it lands.
00:22:03.000 I guess, but it's not like, it's definitely not a punch that would really have that much of an effect on somebody who knows what they're doing.
00:22:11.000 I mean, you could probably land that on someone who also doesn't fight.
00:22:15.000 You can land a lot of things on people if they don't know you're going to punch them.
00:22:17.000 Yeah.
00:22:18.000 That's why sucker punches work.
00:22:19.000 Yeah.
00:22:20.000 When I used to teach martial arts, one of the first things I would tell people is you have to realize that action is so much faster than reaction.
00:22:27.000 So the reason why a sucker punch works is because you have no idea that this person is going to do it.
00:22:32.000 And then by the time they're doing it, it's too late.
00:22:34.000 It's too late for you.
00:22:35.000 You don't react in time.
00:22:36.000 That's why people get punched like that.
00:22:38.000 I'm like, you can't ever let anybody get close enough.
00:22:41.000 You can't ever let anybody that's threatening you get in a position where they think like you think that they could hit you and you don't know what's coming.
00:22:48.000 Right.
00:22:48.000 Because it can happen too fast.
00:22:49.000 So that's why you have to have your awareness to that somebody approaching you is already a threat or can't be.
00:22:55.000 100%.
00:22:56.000 Like remember the time I got in that stupid thing on Fear Factor?
00:22:56.000 Yeah.
00:22:59.000 With that guy?
00:22:59.000 Yes.
00:23:00.000 That was 100% my thought process.
00:23:02.000 Like this guy could punch me in any second.
00:23:04.000 Yeah.
00:23:04.000 So you have to act.
00:23:05.000 Yeah.
00:23:06.000 I had to grab him.
00:23:06.000 But it was one of those moments where I was like, all right, this is a very angry person that's already irrational.
00:23:14.000 What's most irrational?
00:23:15.000 Sucker punching the host.
00:23:17.000 Yeah.
00:23:17.000 And also, this is like, you got to think of reality TV.
00:23:20.000 What is everyone trying to do?
00:23:21.000 Everyone's trying to go viral.
00:23:22.000 They're all trying to have a clip that gets played over and over again.
00:23:26.000 They're all trying to get everybody to watch the show.
00:23:28.000 So they're all acting in the most outrageous way possible.
00:23:32.000 I think it's like between that and social media, it's been like poison in our civility, in our culture.
00:23:39.000 The way people communicate, the way people view like famous people is totally different now.
00:23:45.000 Because you used to be famous because you were Amy Winehouse.
00:23:48.000 Like, oh, I love your music.
00:23:49.000 Now you're just famous for whatever the fuck reason.
00:23:52.000 You can be famous for just acting a fool, like just being a complete dipshit.
00:23:55.000 Yeah, being some guy who's famous for stealing people's hats.
00:23:58.000 Yeah.
00:23:58.000 Just run up and grab people's hats everywhere.
00:24:00.000 That's that's your TikTok.
00:24:02.000 Or yeah, you go up to people and like you whisper in their ear when they're at like a Home Depot.
00:24:08.000 And people are gonna head.
00:24:08.000 Speaking of which, did you see what Andrey Arlofsky got into it with these fucking influencers?
00:24:14.000 I bet they didn't know who he is.
00:24:16.000 Yes, I did see a clip of that.
00:24:17.000 Yeah, I bet they didn't know who he is.
00:24:18.000 They started fucking with former UFC heavyweight champion Andre Arlofsky.
00:24:22.000 Not a good move.
00:24:23.000 He's all first of all, he's fucking gigantic.
00:24:25.000 Yeah.
00:24:26.000 And he's one of the baddest motherfuckers ever.
00:24:28.000 That guy just recently retired from the UFC or was released, I should say.
00:24:33.000 He's not even done fighting.
00:24:34.000 He started fighting.
00:24:36.000 He won the UFC title, I think, in 2005.
00:24:40.000 Yeah.
00:24:41.000 That's 20 fucking years ago.
00:24:44.000 And the guy was still beating people that are like elite fighters just a few years ago.
00:24:50.000 And that's who you go pick on?
00:24:52.000 You should go pick on that guy.
00:24:53.000 Good luck.
00:24:54.000 I think he beat Travis Brown in like 2016 or 17.
00:24:58.000 Travis Brown was super legit, real dangerous.
00:25:01.000 Yeah.
00:25:02.000 Orlofsky was a bad motherfucker, dude.
00:25:04.000 I went to a Travis Brown fight once with you.
00:25:07.000 Travis Brown was a bad motherfucker.
00:25:08.000 Travis Brown completely changed the way people look at the clinch because he elbowed so many people into oblivion.
00:25:16.000 If you got a hold of a single on that guy and your head was right there or a double, anything where you're trying to take him down against the cage and your head is right there.
00:25:24.000 That fucking dude, boom.
00:25:27.000 We literally called him Travis Brown elbows.
00:25:29.000 Dude.
00:25:30.000 Because everybody does it, but Travis Brown did it better than anybody.
00:25:33.000 That and those forearm shots that people take, you're like, oh.
00:25:38.000 Yeah, it's brutal.
00:25:39.000 It's such a brutal sport.
00:25:41.000 It's so crazy.
00:25:42.000 That is so fucking crazy.
00:25:44.000 Yeah, I would not fuck with somebody.
00:25:45.000 I mean, I don't fuck with anybody, but like, if I saw that guy, I'd be the last guy.
00:25:48.000 I'd be like, oh.
00:25:49.000 So many people out there in the world now know how to fight.
00:25:52.000 When I was a kid, almost no one knew how to fight.
00:25:55.000 There was like wrestlers, never fuck with wrestlers.
00:25:58.000 And there was like, oh, the guy, he's Golden Gloves boxer.
00:26:00.000 Oh, don't fuck with him.
00:26:01.000 Yeah.
00:26:01.000 Like, everybody knew who you could and couldn't fuck with.
00:26:04.000 Now everybody knows something.
00:26:06.000 And kids, they learn just by what they'll watch a Charles Olivera fight and they'll practice in their fucking living room.
00:26:11.000 And next thing you know, they know how to do a real triangle.
00:26:14.000 Yeah.
00:26:14.000 Like you can watch a lot of shit on YouTube videos and learn without even taking classes.
00:26:19.000 And kids are like learning.
00:26:20.000 Yeah.
00:26:20.000 Some athletic kids, like a kid that maybe is really good at baseball, really good at soccer or something like that.
00:26:25.000 You teach him some moves pretty quick and he's going to know how to deliver it.
00:26:29.000 My oldest does it twice a week.
00:26:31.000 And he's an athletic kid.
00:26:34.000 He's got some proficiency and he keeps moving up, you know.
00:26:36.000 He's going to kill you.
00:26:37.000 Well, you're going to have to start with the same thing.
00:26:38.000 We also start, we'd fuck around because he's two little boys.
00:26:42.000 This dude will immediately go just put me in an arm bar.
00:26:49.000 And the only thing that like saves me is that I'm still so much bigger and stronger.
00:26:56.000 You might have to start taking fights or he's not going to listen.
00:26:59.000 The clock is ticking.
00:27:00.000 When he's like 16 or 17.
00:27:01.000 Oh, no, no, no.
00:27:02.000 Yeah.
00:27:02.000 That would be a problem, a real problem.
00:27:04.000 Well, that's also a weird problem, too, because all of a sudden you can do things to men.
00:27:09.000 Like, I remember thinking that when I was like 16, 16, 17, when I was competing, all of a sudden I could beat men up.
00:27:16.000 I was like, this is crazy.
00:27:18.000 Yeah, this is weird.
00:27:18.000 Crazy.
00:27:20.000 Because all my life, men were terrifying.
00:27:22.000 Like, men get angry, men will hit you.
00:27:25.000 You run, run from the men.
00:27:26.000 And now I'm like, oh, fuck this grown-ass man up.
00:27:29.000 It was a crazy transition.
00:27:29.000 It was crazy.
00:27:31.000 I can see his wheels turning, dude.
00:27:33.000 So he's going to know he can do it now.
00:27:33.000 Right.
00:27:35.000 So he's going to want to do it.
00:27:36.000 Yeah.
00:27:36.000 Come on, dad.
00:27:37.000 Come on, dad.
00:27:38.000 What are you going to do, dad?
00:27:38.000 Come on, dad.
00:27:39.000 Like, you're fucking grounded.
00:27:39.000 Yeah.
00:27:40.000 Fuck you.
00:27:41.000 I'm not grounded.
00:27:41.000 I'll choke you out.
00:27:42.000 Like, what?
00:27:43.000 And you're in the fucking hallway.
00:27:45.000 You can't even get away.
00:27:46.000 And he's 17 now.
00:27:46.000 Yeah.
00:27:48.000 He probably weighs a buck 80.
00:27:50.000 And they kind of ripped.
00:27:51.000 He's got abs.
00:27:52.000 They get embarrassed.
00:27:53.000 Oh, yeah.
00:27:53.000 They call us and they're like, hey, he's really good.
00:27:55.000 They're like, he's really got a skill at this.
00:27:59.000 Well, jiu-jitsu is athleticism is massive, but also intelligence.
00:28:04.000 It's hard to be dumb and get really good at jiu-jitsu.
00:28:08.000 The other thing that's very different, and I think you see this when you have more than one kid, you have two kids or more.
00:28:08.000 He's a smart kid.
00:28:15.000 You start to see that like, oh, some qualities in people's personalities are innate qualities, right?
00:28:21.000 Like you just, especially because you have your one, you're like, oh, this is what every, this is what a kid's like.
00:28:21.000 Yes.
00:28:26.000 And then you're like, oh, the other kid's not like this.
00:28:27.000 They have these other qualities.
00:28:28.000 Right.
00:28:29.000 And one thing about him that you just pick up on by being his parent is he's like, he's very competitive.
00:28:36.000 Very, very competitive.
00:28:38.000 And so he's intelligent, he's competitive, and he's athletic.
00:28:42.000 And so you go like, oh, yeah, he's just very driven, you know?
00:28:46.000 Well, he should probably compete.
00:28:47.000 Because when you're young, if you learn how to compete when you're young, oh my God, it has so many benefits for the rest of your life because it's so scary.
00:28:54.000 And then you overcome it.
00:28:55.000 And if you could become successful at it, you kind of feel like you could be successful at anything.
00:28:59.000 Because you've been successful at something that's scary.
00:28:59.000 Yeah.
00:29:02.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:29:03.000 Get him in tournaments, man.
00:29:04.000 He got into running.
00:29:06.000 Oh, boy.
00:29:07.000 So like a couple years ago, I was getting ready.
00:29:10.000 We were going to do a 5K.
00:29:12.000 And I was way out of shape.
00:29:13.000 I was like, I got to start running.
00:29:14.000 So the first thing I did is I ran a mile.
00:29:17.000 And he tried to run with, I mean, he was like, you know, let's say like seven years old or something.
00:29:22.000 And I ran the mile in like, I don't know, 9.30.
00:29:27.000 I mean, I was dying, right?
00:29:29.000 I was like, fuck it.
00:29:29.000 Oh, my God.
00:29:30.000 He couldn't quite keep up with me in this one mile run.
00:29:34.000 He's a seven-year-old kid.
00:29:36.000 This year, he ran two miles in 1238.
00:29:40.000 Whoa.
00:29:41.000 So he ran six.
00:29:43.000 Because he didn't like the fact that he wasn't good at running.
00:29:45.000 He just fucking, he would get up and be like, I'm going to go train.
00:29:48.000 I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ, you got a psycho.
00:29:50.000 Yeah, he's a psycho.
00:29:52.000 He's a psycho.
00:29:52.000 He's running up hills and shit.
00:29:54.000 And he's like, come with me.
00:29:55.000 And so like, I have an adult with me.
00:29:57.000 He's just running up and down this hill over and over and over.
00:30:00.000 He's like very sad.
00:30:00.000 Yeah.
00:30:01.000 But it's self.
00:30:02.000 It's not me going, you got to go run.
00:30:04.000 Right.
00:30:04.000 It's inside his head.
00:30:05.000 It's in his head.
00:30:06.000 Wow.
00:30:07.000 If I was a coach, I'd be like, get that kid young.
00:30:10.000 Yeah.
00:30:10.000 Grab him.
00:30:11.000 That's what we want.
00:30:11.000 Grab him.
00:30:12.000 What you want is an intelligent psycho.
00:30:12.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:30:15.000 You know, intelligent, driven, hyper-competitive psycho.
00:30:18.000 Hyper-competitive.
00:30:19.000 The other kid, my youngest, will walk up a flight of stairs.
00:30:21.000 He goes, my legs hurt.
00:30:24.000 I'm like, what?
00:30:25.000 He goes, I want to go rest.
00:30:26.000 I'm like, he just walked up a fucking flight of stairs.
00:30:28.000 He's like, I know, but my legs are killing me.
00:30:31.000 Completely different.
00:30:32.000 It's so funny that that is such the case.
00:30:35.000 It's such the case.
00:30:36.000 It's interesting because there is this thought of what a personality is.
00:30:40.000 Where does it all come from?
00:30:42.000 It's like a combination of so many different things.
00:30:44.000 It's a combination of nature, nurture, genetics.
00:30:47.000 It's everything.
00:30:48.000 You're right.
00:30:48.000 My youngest kid.
00:30:49.000 He's also being exposed to things that bring that out of you.
00:30:52.000 You know what I mean?
00:30:52.000 Yes.
00:30:53.000 Just imagine if he had never been exposed to the running, never done jiu-jitsu, never done anything.
00:30:57.000 Then what happens to that?
00:30:58.000 Yeah.
00:30:59.000 The other kid, he's like, you could tell he has, he has, he has like a comedian's mindset.
00:31:08.000 Because he's a complainer.
00:31:10.000 You know, like every funny person complains.
00:31:13.000 Oh, yeah.
00:31:13.000 Like the other day, I was in the writer's room.
00:31:17.000 I ate something that I was like in the writer's room, but my stomach was like fucking me up all day.
00:31:21.000 I was on the toilet.
00:31:22.000 I was like, it was like brutal to get through the day.
00:31:27.000 Get home and I he's in my room watching TV.
00:31:31.000 And I lay down.
00:31:32.000 I go, Hey, can you turn that off?
00:31:34.000 Because I want to rest.
00:31:36.000 Like, my stomach is bothering me.
00:31:38.000 And he goes, Oh, you want to snooze?
00:31:42.000 How old is he?
00:31:43.000 Seven.
00:31:45.000 He goes, You want to snooze?
00:31:47.000 He goes, I almost fucking threw up today.
00:31:50.000 What?
00:31:51.000 He goes, Yeah, my stomach's.
00:31:52.000 I go, dude, I've been on the toilet for like three hours.
00:31:55.000 And he goes, All right, why don't you have your little snooze?
00:31:55.000 Please.
00:31:57.000 I'll go out here.
00:31:58.000 He's like very animated, you know.
00:32:01.000 Hilarious.
00:32:01.000 And then he saw me wear a suit.
00:32:03.000 This is insane.
00:32:04.000 He saw me wear a suit.
00:32:06.000 And I'm like walking out of the house.
00:32:08.000 And he goes, Hey, I go, he goes, Where's my suit?
00:32:11.000 And I go, What?
00:32:14.000 And then I'm not kidding you.
00:32:16.000 He goes, I look like a fucking asshole.
00:32:19.000 I go, What are you talking about?
00:32:21.000 He goes, You're in a suit.
00:32:22.000 I look like an asshole.
00:32:24.000 He goes, Get me a suit.
00:32:25.000 And I go, Oh my God.
00:32:27.000 And he goes, Yes, I do.
00:32:27.000 You don't need a suit.
00:32:28.000 Why do you get to look like that?
00:32:30.000 I look like a fucking asshole.
00:32:32.000 And I was like, All right, bro.
00:32:34.000 He's always like complaining.
00:32:38.000 That's a little bit of complaints.
00:32:39.000 And it's just funny because we have to do it.
00:32:40.000 That would be an amazing sitcom scene.
00:32:43.000 If you had a kid like that, I look like a fucking asshole.
00:32:43.000 I know.
00:32:47.000 That would be an amazing scene.
00:32:49.000 We call him Joe Pesci because he's always talking like that.
00:32:53.000 He's always bothered.
00:32:54.000 You know, he's always hot.
00:32:56.000 And you're like, this is not a big deal, man.
00:32:58.000 He's like, yes, it is.
00:33:00.000 That's hilarious.
00:33:01.000 Yeah, he's just fired up about shit.
00:33:03.000 That's hilarious.
00:33:04.000 That's hilarious.
00:33:04.000 But that's also in him.
00:33:06.000 You know what I mean?
00:33:07.000 It's part of his personality.
00:33:08.000 Yeah.
00:33:09.000 It's weird.
00:33:10.000 It's like kids get something from you, right?
00:33:13.000 They get some genetics.
00:33:15.000 And then they kind of get whatever that gift the universe gives.
00:33:18.000 Where I was like, that kid's not like either one of us.
00:33:18.000 Totally.
00:33:20.000 Like, where'd you come from?
00:33:21.000 Christina thinks that he, she's like, every time he's like fired up about something, I'm like, look at this kid.
00:33:26.000 She goes, that is you.
00:33:30.000 I'm like, no.
00:33:31.000 And she goes, yes.
00:33:32.000 Well, you have a little of that in you.
00:33:34.000 You definitely do.
00:33:34.000 Yeah.
00:33:35.000 I remember one of the things, one of the most impressive things about our Sober October thing was you got the flu.
00:33:41.000 And so you were out of it for like a couple of days.
00:33:44.000 And so the moment you got back where you felt good, you ran like 15 miles.
00:33:48.000 In a day, yeah, yeah.
00:33:49.000 Yeah.
00:33:51.000 Bro, we were all going nuts.
00:33:53.000 Yeah, I was because I was like, I can't be like dead, dead last.
00:33:57.000 You know what I mean?
00:33:58.000 Like, I was like, I just can't.
00:33:59.000 I was in the gym at the old studio with Ari and Ari.
00:34:03.000 He's like, can I use your gym?
00:34:04.000 I'm like, of course.
00:34:05.000 He's like, after the podcast, I'm going to work out.
00:34:07.000 I got to get my numbers in.
00:34:08.000 And so I was hanging out with him while he was rowing.
00:34:11.000 And he's got a fucking six-pack.
00:34:13.000 Yeah.
00:34:13.000 I was like, this is crazy.
00:34:14.000 I go, Ari, you have a six-pack now.
00:34:16.000 I go, you're ripped.
00:34:17.000 I go, you look great.
00:34:18.000 He's like, oh, thanks.
00:34:20.000 And he was just fucking rowing.
00:34:21.000 He rode for a full hour, man.
00:34:23.000 With a chest trap on, like racking up his numbers.
00:34:26.000 It was the same voice in his head going, don't be dead last.
00:34:29.000 Because we all knew your crazy ass was going to be going like totally psycho.
00:34:34.000 So we were just like, we can't be dead last of the rest of us.
00:34:37.000 Ari was trying to beat me.
00:34:38.000 100%.
00:34:38.000 Yeah.
00:34:39.000 I know he was.
00:34:40.000 Yeah, but you were like pissing blood.
00:34:42.000 We were like, this guy's a little too crazy.
00:34:45.000 Well, I decided one day to just like take it to like the, I wanted to see like, what can I do?
00:34:52.000 That was the day I did seven hours of cardio.
00:34:54.000 I think I'd set off my alarm in my gym for my sweat.
00:34:59.000 I set off the fire alarm.
00:34:59.000 Jesus.
00:35:00.000 From just being so hard.
00:35:01.000 Yeah, this video of it.
00:35:02.000 It's a video on Instagram of the puddles on the ground are the most preposterous thing.
00:35:07.000 I sweat puddles.
00:35:08.000 I think your wife, too, right?
00:35:09.000 Because my spending any time with your family.
00:35:14.000 You're just like so obsessed with this thing.
00:35:16.000 It's like I re-met an old friend.
00:35:20.000 Yeah.
00:35:21.000 That's what it was like for me.
00:35:23.000 It was like, oh, I forgot that guy's in there.
00:35:25.000 I don't necessarily like that guy.
00:35:25.000 Yeah.
00:35:27.000 He scares me.
00:35:27.000 Yeah.
00:35:29.000 It's like, I don't like something.
00:35:31.000 It scares me not being dramatic.
00:35:33.000 This is what it is.
00:35:34.000 That could derail your life.
00:35:38.000 So you could, that obsession could take over again with something, with anything.
00:35:43.000 And then I won't be doing anything but that thing.
00:35:45.000 Like, it's one of the reasons why I like to do a lot of stuff.
00:35:48.000 It's because I don't want one obsession.
00:35:51.000 Yeah, I don't want that one, that brain to focus on.
00:35:55.000 It's not good for mental health.
00:35:56.000 It's really good for success.
00:35:58.000 Like, if you're really going to get really good at one thing, that's the thing.
00:36:02.000 But for overall happiness, I don't find that to be appealing.
00:36:05.000 I don't like that feeling.
00:36:07.000 Like, that sober October feeling was kind of crazy.
00:36:10.000 This is kind of why, like, I feel like I'm trying to embrace a lifestyle that's not, that's accessible, but not dramatic.
00:36:18.000 Like, I could go and go, I'm going to do, you know, two and a half hours at the gym every day.
00:36:24.000 Right.
00:36:24.000 And I'm sure my results would, would show.
00:36:27.000 Right.
00:36:27.000 I want to look like Iron Man or whoever.
00:36:29.000 But my problem is like is like, it's like not, that doesn't feel like I'm going to run out at some point and be like, this is unsustainable.
00:36:37.000 So I'd rather.
00:36:38.000 It's going to take from your other things.
00:36:39.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:36:40.000 I got to do it where like I'll do an hour and change of training and then try to dial in eating.
00:36:46.000 And like that's, that's, you can keep that.
00:36:49.000 Yes.
00:36:49.000 That's that's sustainable.
00:36:50.000 Right.
00:36:51.000 Exactly.
00:36:52.000 Yeah.
00:36:53.000 But it's like, what are you trying?
00:36:55.000 It depends on what you're trying to do.
00:36:56.000 So like we both have families.
00:36:58.000 We both have a lot.
00:36:59.000 You know, there's a lot of people in our lives.
00:37:00.000 You can't just be a maniac and focus on one thing.
00:37:03.000 You can't.
00:37:04.000 Like Gordon Ryan, that's his Abu Dhabi belt up there.
00:37:08.000 That guy trains 365 days a year.
00:37:08.000 Oh, yeah.
00:37:12.000 He doesn't take, fuck you for Christmas.
00:37:12.000 Yeah.
00:37:15.000 Fuck you for your birthday.
00:37:16.000 Oh, it's Easter.
00:37:18.000 Yeah.
00:37:18.000 Fuck you.
00:37:19.000 Well, that's how he became the best of all time.
00:37:21.000 Like if you really want to do something, but he doesn't have kids.
00:37:25.000 He's not married.
00:37:26.000 He's only, you know, now he's 30.
00:37:28.000 But he did all this when he was in his mid-20s.
00:37:31.000 That's also the age to be that obsessed with something.
00:37:33.000 Exactly.
00:37:34.000 Especially if you want to do this one thing that everybody else is working really hard to.
00:37:38.000 You got to figure out how to separate yourself.
00:37:40.000 And it's like if you're running an ultra marathon and you have 200 miles to run and you take time and you're running and you're running at a really good pace, maybe even a faster pace than other people, but then you take naps.
00:37:54.000 You take a nap for an hour or two hours or three hours.
00:37:56.000 And then you say, look, it'll be better this way.
00:37:58.000 And then I'll be revived.
00:37:59.000 I'm still really ahead.
00:38:00.000 That guy who's not going to take any naps is going to beat you.
00:38:03.000 Yeah.
00:38:03.000 Because he's just going to keep running.
00:38:05.000 He's going to keep running.
00:38:06.000 And before you know it, a lot of these ultras, like the guy who wins, they win by like 10 hours.
00:38:11.000 They win by nutty time.
00:38:12.000 Courtney Dilwalter, the lady who was on our podcast once, she ran the Bigfoot 240, I think.
00:38:19.000 And I think she was like eight hours ahead of the second place person.
00:38:23.000 I kind of don't understand the mentality that the ultra people have.
00:38:28.000 Oh, it's dark.
00:38:29.000 Yeah, I'm like, I don't get it.
00:38:30.000 It's dark.
00:38:31.000 How do you actually get there?
00:38:33.000 Well, you have to be a complete nut and then you have to want to test yourself to the point of almost death because that's what these people are doing.
00:38:40.000 They're running like Goggins, he ran one of these fucking things, got rhabdo.
00:38:46.000 So rhabdomyelosis was when you worked out too hard, your body can't recover, and you start pissing brown real bad.
00:38:52.000 Your kidneys are breaking down.
00:38:53.000 He had to go to the hospital, went to the hospital, got out of the hospital, completed the race.
00:38:59.000 And then he did like 100 push-ups.
00:39:02.000 And he's fucking like there's, he's like, he's getting to the door of death.
00:39:08.000 Yeah.
00:39:09.000 Just the door.
00:39:10.000 And that's how he feels.
00:39:11.000 He's normal.
00:39:12.000 Yeah.
00:39:12.000 He feels alive by like getting his body to, and he's 50, by the way.
00:39:17.000 Fucking crazy.
00:39:18.000 He's a maniac.
00:39:19.000 Did you watch, by the way, did you watch the Anthony Joshua Jake Paul?
00:39:23.000 I did.
00:39:24.000 Yeah.
00:39:24.000 Of course I did.
00:39:25.000 I would have guessed.
00:39:26.000 Yeah, I had to watch it.
00:39:27.000 It's a spectacle.
00:39:28.000 Yeah.
00:39:30.000 Look, that guy did great for someone who's been boxing for like less than a decade.
00:39:38.000 He has had no real professional opponents other than Tommy Fury that were legitimate world-class boxers.
00:39:46.000 I don't even remember what happened in the time he got.
00:39:48.000 He lost a close decision, but it was a good fight.
00:39:50.000 It was a good fight, though.
00:39:52.000 He's a good boxer.
00:39:53.000 If he wasn't a YouTuber, people would be way more impressed with him.
00:39:57.000 The problem is he was like a famous kid, and then no one took him seriously.
00:40:01.000 Yeah.
00:40:02.000 Oh, and then he started, too, with like more spectacle-ish fights.
00:40:06.000 People were like, oh, this is your, he fought, you know, Nate Robinson, like a basketball player.
00:40:10.000 But the thing is, he knocked Nate Robinson.
00:40:11.000 He knocked him the fuck out.
00:40:12.000 And it's the way he did it that I was trying to tell people.
00:40:15.000 I'm like, no, no, no.
00:40:16.000 That was skillful.
00:40:17.000 So there's like boxing matches where you see two guys just slugging it out.
00:40:22.000 One guy lands a punch and yeah, he landed a good punch.
00:40:25.000 What Jake did is he slid back and landed a punch.
00:40:29.000 It's like the athleticism along with the intelligence, the technique.
00:40:32.000 I'm like, he's not even doing it that long.
00:40:35.000 And he's also hyper-competitive, even though he's wealthy.
00:40:38.000 You know, like you would assume that wealth would take away your drive for composition.
00:40:42.000 He's also nuts, right?
00:40:44.000 Just the fact that he's willing to fight the two-time heavyweight champion, former Olympic gold medalist.
00:40:50.000 A guy who's gigantic in his prime.
00:40:53.000 Built like a Greek god.
00:40:54.000 Yeah.
00:40:55.000 And you're going to stand, and he's a one-punch killer.
00:40:58.000 And you're going to stand in front of that guy.
00:40:59.000 And he avoided shots till the sixth round.
00:41:01.000 He just started getting tired.
00:41:02.000 His movement in that fight was crazy.
00:41:04.000 It was very good.
00:41:05.000 It was very good.
00:41:06.000 He was really keeping them moving around the whole ring.
00:41:10.000 You can't afford to get tired.
00:41:12.000 That's the thing is like he gets tired in a lot of his fights in the later rounds.
00:41:15.000 You should really sort that out.
00:41:16.000 Because if he had a much bigger gas tank, like if he was training with some of these elite world-class strength and conditioning coaches and just worked on his cardio, he'd be beating way more guys.
00:41:30.000 You think so?
00:41:31.000 Yeah.
00:41:31.000 100%.
00:41:32.000 But it's like what he's doing is learning how to box and he's boxing.
00:41:36.000 He's training hard for sure.
00:41:38.000 But to get that world-class gas tank, you need like a Sam Calavita.
00:41:44.000 You need like a Nick Curson.
00:41:45.000 You need like these plyometrics experts that got heart rate monitors on you and they're checking when your recovery is ready and go.
00:41:56.000 You need guys monitoring your recovery, monitoring your heart rate variability, your VO2 max.
00:42:01.000 I couldn't believe science.
00:42:02.000 I don't know.
00:42:02.000 And maybe he is.
00:42:03.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
00:42:04.000 Maybe he is doing that.
00:42:05.000 But whatever it is, it's not enough.
00:42:07.000 It's not enough.
00:42:08.000 Because in so many of his fights, like the Nate Diaz fight, he gets tired in the later rounds.
00:42:12.000 In the beginning, look, if that guy is only fighting three rounds, he's a fucking handful.
00:42:17.000 He's really good.
00:42:18.000 He clocked Anthony Joshua.
00:42:20.000 He did hit him with a big right hand.
00:42:21.000 He did.
00:42:22.000 Didn't have any effect.
00:42:23.000 Yeah.
00:42:23.000 Because he's, you know, really, he weighed 216, but he doesn't even have abs right at 216.
00:42:29.000 He could easily weigh 190.
00:42:31.000 I'm sure he could make 190.
00:42:32.000 Anthony Joshua's gigantic.
00:42:34.000 So big.
00:42:35.000 He's so big.
00:42:36.000 He's so much bigger.
00:42:36.000 So, of course, like his punch that he knocks Tyron Woodley out cold with, Joshua just eats it.
00:42:42.000 Yeah.
00:42:42.000 Because he's a giant.
00:42:44.000 He's a fucking giant man.
00:42:45.000 He's so big, dude.
00:42:46.000 He's so big.
00:42:49.000 I give Jake so much credit for stepping into that ring.
00:42:53.000 Bro, he got hit with a bomb, a right-hand bomb.
00:42:57.000 When he got hit with that, too, I don't know if enough has been made of the fact that, I mean, it was absolutely devastating.
00:43:04.000 But the fact that he had awareness immediately to go like, like he looked at him, oh, shit.
00:43:10.000 Like, wow.
00:43:12.000 It wasn't cracked.
00:43:13.000 I think he went into that fight knowing that was probably going to happen.
00:43:17.000 And ultimately, the big win for him would be that he was even willing to do it and that he could do well for a little bit.
00:43:25.000 For a little bit, yeah.
00:43:26.000 Yeah.
00:43:26.000 And then eventually just deal with the fact that Anthony Joshua is going to kidnako a bomb and breaks his jaw in two places.
00:43:33.000 He's fucked.
00:43:33.000 Yeah.
00:43:34.000 His jaw's wired shut now.
00:43:35.000 He lost teeth.
00:43:37.000 See, I mean, he made it to the sixth round.
00:43:39.000 Yeah.
00:43:39.000 Pretty wild.
00:43:40.000 Do they put your teeth back in when they pop out like that?
00:43:42.000 Or are they gone forever?
00:43:43.000 I don't know.
00:43:44.000 I don't know.
00:43:45.000 But it's just wired shut for like six weeks now.
00:43:47.000 You got to eat nothing but protein shakes.
00:43:47.000 Yeah.
00:43:50.000 Oof.
00:43:50.000 Bro.
00:43:52.000 I mean, look, it's a crazy world.
00:43:53.000 The thing is that I would hope that he recognizes is right now he's doing great and he's only, whatever he is, 28, I think.
00:44:01.000 Is he 28?
00:44:02.000 I think he is.
00:44:03.000 How old is Jake Paul?
00:44:05.000 He's young.
00:44:06.000 God damn.
00:44:06.000 And he's probably made 300 million plus in his boxing career.
00:44:11.000 How old is Jake Paul?
00:44:12.000 He'll be 29.
00:44:14.000 So he's 28 years old, 29 next month.
00:44:14.000 Look at that.
00:44:18.000 Don't do this very long because there's a price that you pay that is not worth it.
00:44:25.000 It's not worth it.
00:44:26.000 And that price is depression, deep depression, a severe brain imbalance that's going to lead you to addiction.
00:44:34.000 It leads so many people to impulsive behavior.
00:44:37.000 So many people become gambling addicts, drug addicts, alcoholics after their fighting career.
00:44:44.000 You could only take so much.
00:44:45.000 And at a certain, like that one that he got from Joshua, ooh.
00:44:49.000 You know, say if you have like a punch card, you have so many punches that you can get in your life, which I believe you do.
00:44:54.000 I believe there's a certain number.
00:44:56.000 That one was like 10 bunches.
00:44:58.000 That was like, there was a lot of concussions in that one punch.
00:45:01.000 That was real damage.
00:45:01.000 Sure.
00:45:03.000 Like if someone's breaking your jaw in two places, the inside of your fucking head is, there's a lot of damage going on in there, too.
00:45:10.000 Fuck yeah.
00:45:11.000 Just don't do it.
00:45:12.000 I know too many guys that like they wanted to be cool guys and they kept sparring like deep into their 30s and 40s.
00:45:18.000 They would go to the gym and do hard spar, not jiu-jitsu, boxing, boxing sparring.
00:45:23.000 So they're just standing in front of each other, slugging it out.
00:45:25.000 They get bloody noses.
00:45:26.000 They laugh about it and think it was cool.
00:45:28.000 And then they go about their day and I'm like, man, that's going to get you.
00:45:32.000 Because at a certain point in time, that fucking depression is unavoidable.
00:45:36.000 It just creeps it.
00:45:37.000 You just, every, you just, oh, you don't feel good.
00:45:40.000 You just don't feel good.
00:45:42.000 Like, you're just like, oh, all the time.
00:45:44.000 Just, oh, their whole day is like that.
00:45:47.000 Oh, you know, that feeling when you're hungover?
00:45:50.000 That's their life.
00:45:52.000 There's no way to live.
00:45:52.000 That's, no.
00:45:53.000 And it varies.
00:45:54.000 Some guys don't get that.
00:45:55.000 And he definitely doesn't have to do that.
00:45:57.000 No, not anymore.
00:45:58.000 No.
00:45:58.000 If he could do anything, that guy can do anything.
00:46:00.000 If he could do what he did in boxing, he could do anything.
00:46:03.000 Just don't do it forever.
00:46:04.000 It's just one of them things where it's like the price you pay is eventually not worth it.
00:46:09.000 Yeah.
00:46:10.000 Awesome that he did.
00:46:11.000 I mean, awesome that he made, he probably made $100 million Saturday night.
00:46:17.000 Jesus Christ, that's so much.
00:46:19.000 I don't know what he got paid, but also it's probably worth another $100 million in publicity.
00:46:24.000 Easily.
00:46:25.000 Because people loved watching him get knocked out.
00:46:27.000 They did.
00:46:27.000 They also had to say that guy has fucking balls.
00:46:29.000 And he does.
00:46:30.000 He earned it.
00:46:31.000 He earned it.
00:46:33.000 If he doesn't have your respect after that fight, because a lot of people are like, oh, you're going to fight Javante Davis.
00:46:37.000 He's only 135 pounds.
00:46:39.000 He's like, okay, I'll fight a guy 110 pounds bigger.
00:46:45.000 Now you couldn't pay me.
00:46:46.000 You could not pay me enough to do that.
00:46:47.000 Guy's got balls.
00:46:48.000 He's got nothing but respect for me.
00:46:50.000 Yeah.
00:46:51.000 Nothing but respect.
00:46:52.000 Just don't do it forever.
00:46:53.000 There comes a time where the cost is not worth it because some people never return.
00:46:59.000 That's what you have to understand.
00:47:01.000 There's people that get out.
00:47:02.000 Like if you listen to Randy Couture talk now, he talks fine.
00:47:05.000 He's great.
00:47:06.000 He was knocked out a bunch of times.
00:47:07.000 Chuck Liddell knocked him out.
00:47:09.000 They knew when to dip out.
00:47:10.000 Knew when to dip out.
00:47:11.000 And, you know, Randy also like really didn't even begin his UFC career until his late 30s, if I'm correct.
00:47:18.000 He was either 35, it might have been 34 or 35 when he had his first UFC fight.
00:47:24.000 I was there.
00:47:25.000 That was in like fucking the middle of nowhere in the stars.
00:47:27.000 He's pretty old, right?
00:47:29.000 Well, he was an elite wrestler.
00:47:31.000 He was an elite Greco-Roman wrestler, and then he got into MMA late in life back in the time, the days when you'd be able to wear shoes.
00:47:37.000 They used to wear wrestling shoes when they fought.
00:47:39.000 Yeah.
00:47:39.000 Really?
00:47:40.000 Oh, wow.
00:47:41.000 Used to be able to wear shoes.
00:47:41.000 The early days.
00:47:44.000 But like, he's fine.
00:47:45.000 There's a bunch of guys that are still fine, but there's a bunch of guys that are really struggling, really struggling.
00:47:51.000 Don't get there.
00:47:52.000 Don't get there.
00:47:53.000 Scary.
00:47:54.000 Dip out before that happens.
00:47:55.000 It's really.
00:47:56.000 Know when to dip out and have friends that tell you when to dip out.
00:48:00.000 You have a coach, a coach that doesn't say, well, let's give it one more shot.
00:48:04.000 Like, don't, that's not.
00:48:04.000 Yeah.
00:48:06.000 You only want to be doing that if you're trying to be the best in the world.
00:48:09.000 That's my opinion.
00:48:11.000 I mean, there's a lot of guys who are never going to be the best in the world and they still love competing.
00:48:16.000 And that's great too.
00:48:17.000 And there's a lot of guys that make a living doing it and they make good money and they feed their families.
00:48:22.000 And I'm not saying, but if you have an option, I don't think you should do it unless you're a fucking complete maniac, absolutely obsessed.
00:48:31.000 You want to do it more than you want to do anything else in life.
00:48:34.000 Because if you don't feel like that, there's a guy out there that does.
00:48:38.000 And that guy's going to fuck you up.
00:48:40.000 That guy's going to come and take your soul away from you.
00:48:43.000 I always think of Mike Tyson when he was 20.
00:48:46.000 I was like, if you're not that dedicated, you shouldn't be fighting because Mike Tyson is not one person.
00:48:51.000 There's a bunch of those guys out there.
00:48:53.000 There's Alex Pereira.
00:48:55.000 There's all these guys out there in the world that are that obsessed.
00:48:58.000 There's all these Islam Makachevs and Ilya Taporias.
00:49:02.000 There's these guys out there in the world that are just driven.
00:49:06.000 And if you want to fight, if you really want to fight, if you run into one of those guys and you're not doing what they're doing, you're going to get tuned up.
00:49:06.000 To do it.
00:49:15.000 Alex, I didn't realize how big he is.
00:49:17.000 I did not realize that until the photo of him next to somebody I know, like a friend of mine.
00:49:17.000 Giant.
00:49:22.000 I was like, there's a lot of chatter about him fighting in the heavyweight division now.
00:49:26.000 There's a lot of chatter about it.
00:49:26.000 Really?
00:49:27.000 There's a lot of chatter about him perhaps even fighting Cyril Gone.
00:49:31.000 I don't know how much of this is true.
00:49:32.000 I haven't talked to Dana about it, but it's not an illogical move.
00:49:35.000 He's 240 pounds right now.
00:49:37.000 240 plus.
00:49:38.000 And he's like, what, 6'4, 6'4?
00:49:40.000 6'5 ⁇ , 6'4, 6'5 ⁇ .
00:49:42.000 And don't make no mistake about it, that guy can knock out heavyweights.
00:49:46.000 No doubt about it.
00:49:48.000 He hits harder than anyone they've ever recorded ever on that fucking stupid punch machine.
00:49:54.000 Yeah.
00:49:54.000 Yeah.
00:49:54.000 You know that thing?
00:49:55.000 Francis Singano got like a 129 on it, which is crazy.
00:49:59.000 Crazy.
00:49:59.000 He got a 190.
00:50:01.000 190?
00:50:02.000 190.
00:50:03.000 When you watch him hit it, you're like, what the fuck?
00:50:06.000 You want to see it?
00:50:07.000 You should just see it just to feel what it would feel like to get hit in the head by that.
00:50:11.000 Oh, my God.
00:50:12.000 Like, that guy is out there in the world.
00:50:15.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:50:16.000 Like, if you think you're going to be a journeyman and you're going to all of a sudden, you know, be looking across the octagon and that guy's standing there, trauma.
00:50:24.000 Like, he's going to hunt you.
00:50:25.000 He's going to hunt you.
00:50:26.000 And you're not in that space that he's in.
00:50:30.000 He's in a killer-be-killed space.
00:50:33.000 And you're in a, this is fun to compete.
00:50:35.000 Yeah, it's not the same thing.
00:50:36.000 Not the same thing.
00:50:37.000 Watch this video because it's fucking bananas.
00:50:40.000 Holy fuck.
00:50:41.000 When he hits it, you just go, everybody around him goes, oh, like, what the fuck?
00:50:47.000 Oh, my God.
00:50:48.000 Watch this.
00:50:52.000 Oh, my God.
00:50:56.000 See that?
00:50:57.000 One more time.
00:50:58.000 One more time.
00:50:59.000 Well, you do it from the beginning.
00:51:02.000 If you don't, that sound is so crazy.
00:51:05.000 Yeah, that's your face.
00:51:07.000 You know what, Mark Goddard?
00:51:08.000 Mark Goddard was the referee in his fight with Khalil Roundtree, and he came up to me right after the fight.
00:51:14.000 Like, I got into the Otgon.
00:51:15.000 They were going to announce Alex Pereira, winner by knockout.
00:51:18.000 Goddard walks up to me, goes, the sound that guy makes.
00:51:22.000 He goes, I've been doing this for 20 years.
00:51:25.000 He goes, the sound is ungodly.
00:51:27.000 Really?
00:51:28.000 It's ungodly.
00:51:29.000 It's different.
00:51:31.000 And you can see when you're hearing doing commentary, you see the look on the guys' faces.
00:51:35.000 When they get hit, they're like, oh, this is real.
00:51:37.000 This is different.
00:51:38.000 Yeah.
00:51:39.000 There's some different dudes out there.
00:51:41.000 There's some different dudes out there.
00:51:42.000 And that's a different, not just of dedication and drive and focus, because he definitely has all that, but it's genetics.
00:51:48.000 That dude is a legitimate Amazon warrior.
00:51:52.000 Like he comes from a tribe in the Amazon.
00:51:55.000 And he goes back to that tribe and he puts on the traditional outfits that they wear and the face paint and hangs out with them.
00:52:02.000 And it's like, yo.
00:52:04.000 He would have been the fucking tribal warlord.
00:52:07.000 He would have been the king back then.
00:52:08.000 Yeah.
00:52:08.000 I mean, that's his ancestry.
00:52:10.000 Fuck me.
00:52:11.000 Yeah, he speaks their language.
00:52:12.000 Oh, he does like the dialect?
00:52:14.000 I think.
00:52:15.000 I don't want to misspeak, but I'm pretty sure he understands what they're saying because he's talking to them.
00:52:19.000 Not just Portuguese, like Brazil.
00:52:21.000 That whole Amazon area is so fascinating, man.
00:52:24.000 Have you been to the Amazon?
00:52:25.000 No.
00:52:26.000 I went once.
00:52:27.000 Really?
00:52:27.000 Yeah.
00:52:28.000 What'd you do?
00:52:29.000 My uncle was working for an oil company in Peru.
00:52:34.000 And there's a part of Peru called Iquitos in the north, which is the jungle.
00:52:38.000 And I went with him, and we went out on the Amazon, and then we pulled up to some place, and he's like, we're going to eat here, right?
00:52:48.000 And it's not like fucking Terry Black's.
00:52:51.000 It's just like some fucking shack.
00:52:53.000 And the guy just kept brain.
00:52:55.000 I was like, what am I eating?
00:52:56.000 And he was like, I'll tell you later.
00:52:58.000 Piranha.
00:52:59.000 It was all kinds of weird shit.
00:53:00.000 What were we eating?
00:53:01.000 I mean, snakes and rabbits and, you know, like Amazonian shit that I've never even heard of.
00:53:08.000 And I would take bites and be like, what is this?
00:53:09.000 Later.
00:53:10.000 I'll tell you later.
00:53:11.000 Okay.
00:53:12.000 They made me eat all this stuff.
00:53:13.000 And I was like, this is fucking crazy.
00:53:15.000 But when you're out there, yeah, you are kind of wowed.
00:53:19.000 You know, you're just in awe of everything around you.
00:53:23.000 And like just the fact that this is on the planet with us.
00:53:27.000 And you can make a trek to a place like this where there's species of not just animals, flowers and trees and things that don't exist anywhere else.
00:53:36.000 And it's so rich with everything that's there.
00:53:38.000 It's an awe-inspiring kind of thing.
00:53:40.000 It hasn't even been documented.
00:53:41.000 I mean, there's so many pharmaceutical drugs that come from plants they find in the Amazon.
00:53:46.000 It's wild.
00:53:47.000 It's such a crazy place.
00:53:49.000 You know the craziest part about it?
00:53:50.000 The density of the Amazon rainforest is essentially man-made.
00:53:54.000 Man-made?
00:53:55.000 Man-made.
00:53:56.000 Yeah, they didn't know that until fairly recently.
00:53:56.000 Really?
00:53:59.000 Those are agriculture plants that grew out of control, got out of control.
00:54:03.000 And they constantly find, but they'll find, you know, they'll find like a species of a bird, and they'll be like, this is the only place we've ever seen this bird.
00:54:10.000 It doesn't exist anywhere else on the planet.
00:54:12.000 It all used to be populated, too.
00:54:13.000 That's what's really crazy.
00:54:15.000 Have you seen that LIDAR stuff they do?
00:54:17.000 And they find all these ancient structures.
00:54:17.000 Yes.
00:54:19.000 Yes.
00:54:20.000 The white man came and brought the cooties and there's still like these tribes that live there and literally have blow darts that hunt.
00:54:30.000 That's how they kill their meals.
00:54:33.000 My friend Paul Rosalie lives there.
00:54:35.000 Lives there?
00:54:36.000 He lives in the Amazon.
00:54:38.000 He's got this organization that's working to try to preserve the rainforest.
00:54:42.000 One of the things that they do is they find these loggers.
00:54:45.000 And these loggers generally, they're poor guys that just get forced to do these jobs.
00:54:49.000 And he pays them more than they get paid as loggers to protect the rainforest.
00:54:55.000 So instead of cutting it down, now you have a job where you get paid more, but now your job is to protect the forest.
00:55:01.000 So they plant more and everything?
00:55:02.000 Yeah, they plant more.
00:55:03.000 They stop people from, I don't know if they plant, honestly.
00:55:06.000 They stop people from cutting things down.
00:55:08.000 The problem with planting, and this is where the Amazon gets really weird, the Amazon soil natively is not conducive for growing a lot of stuff.
00:55:18.000 So there's a type of soil that's man-made that they do not know how they did it.
00:55:25.000 They do not know when they started doing it.
00:55:27.000 But it's called terraprada.
00:55:29.000 Is that what it's called?
00:55:30.000 And it's a thick, dark, man-made soil.
00:55:33.000 So it's essentially compost and all these different process and carbon and a bunch of things that they get into this man-made layer that's all over the Amazon.
00:55:43.000 Wow.
00:55:44.000 That whole area, we thought it like, so there, you know, this Lost City of Z story.
00:55:50.000 So the Lost City of Z was that movie.
00:55:52.000 Did you ever see it?
00:55:53.000 Was it Percy Richards?
00:55:55.000 What was his name?
00:55:56.000 Percy Fawcett?
00:55:57.000 Percy Fawcett.
00:55:59.000 So this guy goes down to the Amazon a long time ago and he comes back with this story.
00:56:03.000 You know, European traveler comes back with this story of golden cities and it's amazing.
00:56:09.000 So he comes back, he reports his findings, and then 100 years later, like a new search party goes down there to look for this place.
00:56:16.000 They don't find nothing.
00:56:17.000 Like, oh, that guy was full of shit.
00:56:19.000 But he wasn't full of shit.
00:56:21.000 It was all real.
00:56:22.000 It's just that he brought the cooties.
00:56:24.000 So they brought disease and literally wiped out millions of people, millions of people.
00:56:30.000 And the jungle just consumed whatever structures were there in 100 years, which is like, look at Detroit.
00:56:37.000 Detroit is freezing cold.
00:56:38.000 It's nowhere near as tropical as the Amazon.
00:56:42.000 But Detroit, houses are just trees are growing straight through them.
00:56:45.000 And it's only been like 50 years.
00:56:47.000 So in 100 years in the Amazon, everything was gone.
00:56:50.000 All the people were dead.
00:56:52.000 All the structures, which were wood, were all just like consumed by the rainforest.
00:56:56.000 Whoa.
00:56:57.000 Yeah.
00:56:57.000 And they didn't even know this until they started doing this LIDAR stuff.
00:57:01.000 And so this LIDAR stuff, when they're flying over with this, it's a type of laser.
00:57:07.000 And essentially, it looks into the ground and finds structures right through the trees.
00:57:11.000 They can like scan things.
00:57:13.000 And they're finding aqueducts and roads and complex irrigation systems, big giant symmetrical structures like this.
00:57:24.000 This is all covered by jungle.
00:57:26.000 Like these are all buildings and streets.
00:57:29.000 Like they had millions of people living in the Amazon.
00:57:32.000 Millions.
00:57:33.000 This is like the same, you know, the theory that, you know, how like UAPs have become more, like there's congressional testimonies about it, and everybody's always talking about where are these visitors coming from?
00:57:47.000 Right.
00:57:48.000 But like one of the theories is that they're not visitors from somewhere else.
00:57:51.000 Yeah.
00:57:52.000 They're visitors from our own planet.
00:57:55.000 That is an interesting thing.
00:57:56.000 I thought it was interesting, especially just because we know how much of our planet is actually unexplored.
00:58:04.000 Like we always think of it as like, oh, we know the planet.
00:58:06.000 Right.
00:58:07.000 But like most of the ocean is unexplored.
00:58:09.000 Like a huge number of the planets.
00:58:11.000 And then obviously things like the jungle, where you're just discovering like, oh, look, there's a whole civilization in there.
00:58:16.000 Well, there was a civilization.
00:58:18.000 Was.
00:58:19.000 I think the Amazon rainforest people that they encounter now, the uncontacted people, are probably the survivors.
00:58:26.000 Yeah.
00:58:26.000 Because the thing is, during the ice age, the equator was lush.
00:58:31.000 So these areas probably had like perfect.
00:58:35.000 Yeah, huge populations, perfect climate.
00:58:37.000 I mean, think about all the incredible structures that you find in those areas.
00:58:42.000 Like the Incan structures and the Mayan structures.
00:58:45.000 Like, they were obviously like a very advanced civilization back then.
00:58:50.000 Nothing makes sense when you're there.
00:58:51.000 Like, I've been three times to Machu Picchu.
00:58:54.000 And you're always there.
00:58:55.000 Oh, you went to Machu Picchu?
00:58:56.000 Yeah, I went three times.
00:58:57.000 And every time, because you see photos and stuff, when you're actually there, you're like, Your brain just goes, it doesn't, because it's all theories.
00:59:07.000 Everyone, like, you'll have a guide who's like, this is how, and you're like, yeah, but this is your guess, motherfucker.
00:59:13.000 You don't know that, you know?
00:59:15.000 Because it just doesn't add up in your head how this could be built up in the Andes.
00:59:22.000 Well, the predominant theory by the alternative historians is that water was that high back then in that area.
00:59:29.000 Yeah.
00:59:30.000 And that there have been some enormous seismic changes, you know, earthquakes and the like, which is one of the reasons why they made those stones the way they did in the first place.
00:59:39.000 Like, if you see the stones, they're cut like jigsaw puzzle pieces and slipped into place.
00:59:44.000 Yeah.
00:59:44.000 The reason why they did that is because that would better redistribute any energy that would come from an earthquake.
00:59:52.000 So instead of like bricks stacked on top of bricks, they're all like interlocking with each other with a bunch of different angles and they're immense.
00:59:58.000 These pieces are so immense.
01:00:00.000 And it's laying perfectly flush against the next piece.
01:00:04.000 Like it's not like kind of sloppily thrown together.
01:00:08.000 It looks like an architecture firm designed it and hired, you know, like that there were cranes putting.
01:00:14.000 You're like, how the fuck would this be put together in 1500?
01:00:18.000 Yeah.
01:00:19.000 It's really, really difficult to figure out.
01:00:21.000 Yeah.
01:00:22.000 And they don't even know the date.
01:00:22.000 They don't know.
01:00:24.000 The date is silly because they're not, what they're basing the date off of, there's a bunch of different structures.
01:00:30.000 There's the base structure, which is way more complex and way bigger.
01:00:33.000 Like, especially Saxe Huamon and a bunch of these other places that they have layers of civilization.
01:00:39.000 It's really clear.
01:00:40.000 Like the layers above it are like less sophisticated than the giant megalithic stuff that's below it.
01:00:45.000 And yet they all try to attribute it to the same time.
01:00:48.000 The problem is they get married to a timeline.
01:00:50.000 And once they get married to that timeline, then they go, oh, well, that's just what it is.
01:00:55.000 But they don't know what it is.
01:00:58.000 They've discovered this new stone structure that is in Oregon.
01:01:07.000 And it's 18,000 years old.
01:01:09.000 They didn't even think up until fairly recently, they didn't think that people were here 18,000 years ago.
01:01:15.000 There's a structure in Oregon that's 18,000.
01:01:16.000 Yeah, let me see if I can find it.
01:01:18.000 I think, yeah, here it is.
01:01:20.000 found it i always feel like when when those the experts give you the final chain yeah Yeah.
01:01:25.000 Testing yields new evidence of human occupation 18,000 years ago in Oregon.
01:01:31.000 So they just keep the, so this is a stone wall.
01:01:34.000 It's pretty cool.
01:01:37.000 So they found camel teeth fragments under a layer of volcanic ash from an eruption of Mount St. Helens that was dated over 15,000 years ago.
01:01:45.000 Team also uncovered two finely crafted orange, I don't know what that word is.
01:01:49.000 A gate scrapers.
01:01:50.000 A gate scrapers.
01:01:51.000 I guess it's a type of stone.
01:01:52.000 One in 2012 preserved bison blood residue and another in 2015 buried deeper in the ash.
01:01:58.000 So they did the radiocarbon dating on this stuff and they came up with a date of 18,250 years before present time.
01:02:08.000 Fuck.
01:02:08.000 That's so goddamn long ago.
01:02:11.000 The date in association with stone tools suggests that the Rim Rock Draw Rock Shelter is one of the oldest human occupation sites in North America.
01:02:19.000 See if you can find what that looks like.
01:02:21.000 So there's a few places in America where people are like, okay, what the fuck is this?
01:02:28.000 And one of them that's really interesting, what does perplexity have to say about this?
01:02:33.000 The site is a shallow rock shelter about three meters deep, 20 meters long on a basalt rim near the town of Riley in Harnage County, Oregon, at the northern edge of the Great Basin.
01:02:47.000 Interesting.
01:02:51.000 This stuff is so interesting to me.
01:02:54.000 Yeah.
01:02:54.000 Because there's a weird one in Montana.
01:02:57.000 Have you seen the sage wall in Montana?
01:03:00.000 This one's really weird.
01:03:01.000 So this one is actually debatable, apparently.
01:03:05.000 So there are some people that are geologists that look at this and say, this has, it could be a natural formation.
01:03:14.000 And other people look at it and go, yeah, but it has like legit tooling on it.
01:03:18.000 So this is a wall that's on a piece of private property in Montana.
01:03:23.000 Like just looking at that image, boy, that looks a lot like people made it.
01:03:28.000 That looks a lot like people made it.
01:03:28.000 Yeah.
01:03:30.000 So there's an argument, though, that there are similar, but not as uniquely man-made looking structures that are not, that are definitely not man-made.
01:03:40.000 Wait, so this is a the debate is that this might not be man-made?
01:03:43.000 Like this might be naturally occurring?
01:03:45.000 Exactly.
01:03:46.000 Like, look at that.
01:03:48.000 What are the odds that that is?
01:03:50.000 What is that?
01:03:51.000 Like, what is that?
01:03:52.000 Is that evidence of an ancient civilization or is that just a geological formation?
01:03:58.000 Well, the funny thing is in that image, I lean more towards, I could see how you could make a case of a natural formation.
01:04:06.000 Perhaps.
01:04:07.000 But on the other ones where things look more stacked, it feels like that, like that second image below.
01:04:13.000 That's not it.
01:04:14.000 No, I think that's AI.
01:04:16.000 That's why I was trying to be careful which ones I'm sure.
01:04:16.000 Oh, okay.
01:04:18.000 Yeah.
01:04:19.000 But when you look at it from the top, that's kind of crazy.
01:04:22.000 Yeah, that is kind of crazy.
01:04:23.000 There's parts of it, though, that look like, well, there's stuff around that that just doesn't look as uniquely man-made.
01:04:33.000 But it is without a doubt weird.
01:04:37.000 Because if it turns out that people did make this thing, and apparently it goes deep into the ground, like there's some cuts that looks like, and then there's also some evidence that looks like somebody might have been working on the stone, like drill holes or something.
01:04:53.000 I forget what it was.
01:04:54.000 But look at these.
01:04:56.000 Yeah, that looks like.
01:04:57.000 Oh, yes, this is not that.
01:04:58.000 Yeah, it's comparing.
01:04:59.000 That's.
01:04:59.000 That's comparing it to the stuff that's in Peru, which has some of the craziest stuff.
01:05:03.000 Peru has some of the craziest stuff in the world.
01:05:06.000 Like, look at that.
01:05:07.000 Like, look at that angle.
01:05:09.000 Go back to that one right there.
01:05:11.000 Like, what the fuck is that?
01:05:13.000 That's crazy.
01:05:14.000 Are there nubs on any of these rocks?
01:05:16.000 That's a good question.
01:05:17.000 But some of them, like, boy, that looks really fucking suspicious.
01:05:22.000 You've looked up, I don't know if we talked about the lines of Nazca before.
01:05:25.000 Oh, yeah.
01:05:25.000 That's so.
01:05:26.000 Well, do you know about the mummies, the tridactyl mummies that they found in that area?
01:05:29.000 Uh-uh.
01:05:30.000 Oh, boy.
01:05:31.000 No.
01:05:32.000 Oh, boy.
01:05:33.000 So they've always had artwork that depicted these three-fingered, three-toed beings with big eyes.
01:05:33.000 Okay.
01:05:40.000 It's a part of like ancient Peruvian artwork.
01:05:42.000 Like they're dated back to like a thousand years.
01:05:45.000 Well, they've found these mummified remains of the weirdest looking fucking creatures you've ever seen in your life.
01:05:53.000 They're three feet tall.
01:05:54.000 They have big heads, three fingers and three toes, and they're dead.
01:05:59.000 And then they do CT scans on them.
01:06:01.000 They have all the ligaments and structure of a living being, but with a different scapula than us.
01:06:09.000 And I think, oh, they don't have a sternum, but they have the ribs that we have.
01:06:14.000 I think the same amount of ribs, but their structure is different, but it's a real structure.
01:06:18.000 Like when you see the structure with the CT scan, you see flesh and tissue, these things.
01:06:24.000 Whoa.
01:06:25.000 Bro, this is all in Peru.
01:06:27.000 So there's all these little metallic implants on this thing, too.
01:06:31.000 But this is the structure of its body.
01:06:33.000 And as it goes further, it shows the tissue and everything because it's mummified.
01:06:37.000 So you could see like ligaments and tissue.
01:06:41.000 So there's a bunch of different scans that they did.
01:06:44.000 And one of them, the being was pregnant.
01:06:46.000 But look, it has a spinal column.
01:06:49.000 It has all the joints are in order, but they're different than ours.
01:06:52.000 It's in that area?
01:06:53.000 This is all in Peru.
01:06:53.000 Yes.
01:06:55.000 And it's all in the same.
01:06:56.000 It has a fucking metallic golden implant in its forehead.
01:06:56.000 Look, look at it.
01:07:00.000 And look at the size of its head.
01:07:02.000 Like, it looks like a gray, right?
01:07:04.000 Yeah.
01:07:04.000 See if you can get some of those images that show the CT scans of the tissue.
01:07:10.000 Because the CT scans of the tissue are the weird.
01:07:13.000 There it is.
01:07:14.000 So it also has fingerprints, which are weird.
01:07:17.000 Like, look at that.
01:07:18.000 It has fucking fingerprints, but they're different hours and three digits.
01:07:23.000 Unique fingerprints.
01:07:24.000 They don't know what this is, but my friend Jesse Michaels went down there and saw them in person.
01:07:28.000 He said it was unreal.
01:07:30.000 He said it's really fucking bizarre.
01:07:32.000 Did I tell you when I went to the Liñas, the Nazca?
01:07:34.000 So I went there.
01:07:34.000 No.
01:07:36.000 I was in the middle of the day.
01:07:37.000 So we get a picture of the whole skeleton.
01:07:39.000 And my uncle set me up to go see them with my dad.
01:07:44.000 And so we got into what was a cartel plane that was confiscated by the government.
01:07:49.000 It was now like a Peruvian government plane, like a military plane.
01:07:55.000 But it was really like four seats in the back, two pilots in the front, I think two propellers, right?
01:08:03.000 One of those types of planes.
01:08:05.000 The best way to see the lines is in a chopper so you can hover.
01:08:08.000 But we went on a plane and we're like, I mean, it's, you can't believe what you're seeing, right?
01:08:13.000 Like you're flying over and they're taking us.
01:08:16.000 And then in the middle of it, my dad's like, I need to pee.
01:08:22.000 And I'm like, what?
01:08:23.000 He's like, tell the pilot I need to pee.
01:08:25.000 I'm like, we're going to keep doing this.
01:08:28.000 He's like, I have to pee now.
01:08:30.000 Oh, boy.
01:08:31.000 So I go to the pilot.
01:08:32.000 I was like, hey, my dad's got to pee.
01:08:33.000 He's like, what?
01:08:35.000 Yeah.
01:08:37.000 He's like 65.
01:08:38.000 I'm like, he's got to pee.
01:08:40.000 And the guy's like, all right.
01:08:42.000 So we just find some random airstrip, I think in Pisco or something, and then...
01:08:48.000 How long does it take to do that?
01:08:50.000 I forget.
01:08:50.000 I mean, we had to go out of our way.
01:08:53.000 And then, you know, he pees.
01:08:55.000 How long did it take?
01:08:57.000 I mean, for us to get to the airstrip, probably like, it was out of the way.
01:09:00.000 So maybe like another 20 minutes or something.
01:09:02.000 Oh, boy.
01:09:03.000 And I was like, dude.
01:09:05.000 He's like, what am I supposed to do?
01:09:06.000 I was like, I don't know.
01:09:07.000 Didn't you fucking pee before we got in this thing?
01:09:08.000 He's like, yeah, but I got to pee again.
01:09:10.000 All right.
01:09:11.000 And then they just like walk around and they find an oil canteen that was like discarded on the runway.
01:09:16.000 And they're like, this is for your dad so that if he has to pee again, we don't have to land in the fucking plane.
01:09:23.000 And I was like, here you go, dad.
01:09:26.000 If it strikes you again, please piss in this.
01:09:28.000 Did he do it?
01:09:29.000 He pissed it.
01:09:29.000 He did?
01:09:29.000 Yeah, he did it.
01:09:30.000 He pissed again.
01:09:31.000 Oh, my God.
01:09:31.000 He pissed in the oil can.
01:09:33.000 Yeah.
01:09:33.000 So you're flying around where your dad's pissed off.
01:09:35.000 My dad's pissed.
01:09:36.000 And then where he's like, that's pretty neat.
01:09:38.000 Looking at the lines of NASCAR.
01:09:40.000 Like, yeah, pretty neat, man.
01:09:42.000 Really bizarre.
01:09:43.000 It's kind of funny, too, to think about.
01:09:45.000 Show me the images of the red ones where it shows the tissues and the ligaments.
01:09:50.000 The fact that some people aren't wowed by things like this.
01:09:53.000 Do you know what I mean?
01:09:54.000 Jay Anderson had a good one.
01:09:55.000 He had a bunch of good because he did a piece on it, too.
01:09:58.000 Yeah, well, you have to be out of your fucking mind to not be wowed by this.
01:10:01.000 Yeah.
01:10:02.000 I know, but don't you feel like half the population is like, oh, that's cool.
01:10:05.000 Half the population is asleep.
01:10:07.000 Yeah.
01:10:07.000 They're all on TikTok.
01:10:08.000 It's all rot in their brain.
01:10:10.000 They're all just social media is like transformed their attention.
01:10:16.000 They're locked in on nonsense, on things that don't have any bearing on their life whatsoever.
01:10:21.000 And that's what they're focusing on six hours a day.
01:10:24.000 That's a lot of people.
01:10:25.000 And then you show them something like this, and they're like, this is completely bananas.
01:10:30.000 Yeah, that's a human being.
01:10:32.000 It's not a alien.
01:10:33.000 It's a fucking alien.
01:10:34.000 Or it might have been a kind of human being, right?
01:10:39.000 So you know about there's a bunch of different ones, right?
01:10:42.000 Everybody knows about Neanderthals, but there's also the Hobbit people in the island of Flores.
01:10:46.000 There's three foot tall human beings that looked probably like a Hobbit, like little chimpanzee.
01:10:52.000 Look at that fucking thing.
01:10:53.000 Fucking A. Like, what is that?
01:10:56.000 And the thing is, it's like if you just saw the outside, you'd go, oh, that's a cool structure or a cool sculpture, rather.
01:11:02.000 But then when you see the actual ligaments and tendons and all the stuff inside of it, you go, oh, no, this is a living being, whatever the hell it is.
01:11:10.000 And they all have three toes and three fingers.
01:11:15.000 It just strikes me, too, that this isn't the primary conversation we're having, though.
01:11:20.000 I mean, look at that.
01:11:21.000 I know.
01:11:22.000 How insane is that?
01:11:23.000 It's an alien, man.
01:11:25.000 They're very different.
01:11:26.000 They also, they have different shaped heads.
01:11:29.000 Like, there's a difference between, you know, how many did they find?
01:11:33.000 Oh, there's quite a few of them.
01:11:34.000 There's quite a few of them.
01:11:35.000 What is the Montserrat?
01:11:36.000 That's the bigger one.
01:11:37.000 That's the biggest one that they find.
01:11:38.000 That's the name they gave it?
01:11:39.000 Yeah, they gave it a name.
01:11:40.000 So this is the largest one and the most impressive.
01:11:43.000 And she has these metallic implants.
01:11:45.000 She's got the one on her forehead, and she's got several of them on her body.
01:11:50.000 It's a very weird thing because it seems like it's a living creature, but it's not like a human being.
01:11:56.000 Like, even the way it's skull, those lines in the skull, like we all have those, whatever those lines are, the plates, their lines are different than ours.
01:12:05.000 Everything's different.
01:12:08.000 Yeah, and the way they found these things, grave robbers find them.
01:12:08.000 Jesus.
01:12:12.000 So they don't really tell you where they found them.
01:12:13.000 They lie about them.
01:12:14.000 They find them in Peru.
01:12:15.000 But I mean, like, how long ago did this happen?
01:12:18.000 All this is fairly recent.
01:12:20.000 Okay.
01:12:20.000 All this is in the last decade or so.
01:12:22.000 But the focus on it has been over the last year or so where a lot of these scientists have gone down there to take a look at it.
01:12:28.000 And guys like Jesse Michaels and some other people.
01:12:30.000 The problem is the country doesn't want them removed for testing, right?
01:12:35.000 Right.
01:12:35.000 But you're going to have to bring equipment down there because testing has to be done.
01:12:40.000 Like we have to figure out what these things are because it seems like it's a life form that is a bipedal hominid that's different than us that probably lived alongside.
01:12:49.000 By the way, that thing's also 1,200 years old.
01:12:52.000 Yeah.
01:12:52.000 That's old.
01:12:53.000 It's 1,200 years old.
01:12:54.000 So it's not a fake.
01:12:55.000 I wonder if that's the civilization that did those lines, you know?
01:12:59.000 Very well could be.
01:13:00.000 They could be the same civilization that also did all those structures up there.
01:13:04.000 There might have been living amongst us.
01:13:06.000 There might have been multiple different civilizations in the past that just don't exist anymore.
01:13:11.000 If these things turn out to be real and they do have this enormous head and these weird spindly bodies and three fingers and three toes and they start finding more and more artifacts that point to that, I mean, that changes our understanding of what has existed here before.
01:13:25.000 Because whatever that thing is, it's at the very least, it's advanced enough to give itself metal implants.
01:13:32.000 Like, what's going on there?
01:13:34.000 Where it has a gold circle in its forehead?
01:13:36.000 Implanted.
01:13:37.000 Implanted into its skull.
01:13:38.000 Like, what's the point of that?
01:13:41.000 I mean, because gold does have a place in electronics.
01:13:44.000 You know, they use gold in certain electronics.
01:13:46.000 It's got great kind of conductivity.
01:13:48.000 Yeah.
01:13:49.000 So why does it have, what is that thing?
01:13:52.000 If it's a real thing, everybody should be, like, it should be front page.
01:13:55.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:13:56.000 Yeah.
01:13:57.000 Look at that.
01:13:57.000 Look at that implant.
01:13:59.000 That's Jay Anderson.
01:14:00.000 He was actually just on.
01:14:02.000 What could this mean?
01:14:03.000 Yeah.
01:14:04.000 Bro, it's bananas.
01:14:05.000 And look at those eye, like the slots for the eyes.
01:14:07.000 Yeah.
01:14:08.000 Like a gray alien.
01:14:10.000 Tridactyl, but yeah.
01:14:11.000 Like a gray alien.
01:14:12.000 And by the way, like people have described when they've had encounters, they've described things that look exactly like that.
01:14:18.000 Three fingers, three toes, spindly, big head, large eyes.
01:14:23.000 And he went down there and he went down.
01:14:25.000 My friend Jesse Michaels went down there and actually touched them.
01:14:29.000 That was the first video.
01:14:30.000 He was in the room while they were doing the scans.
01:14:32.000 He said it's so strange.
01:14:34.000 He said it feels so surreal because it's so obvious that it was a real living thing.
01:14:38.000 I don't understand how that's not like the lead story in the news.
01:14:42.000 Yeah.
01:14:42.000 Everywhere.
01:14:43.000 Meanwhile, they're arguing over everything.
01:14:47.000 Everything else.
01:14:48.000 Everything, whatever the fuck it is.
01:14:49.000 Can you believe what's going on with Turning Point USA?
01:14:52.000 They found aliens.
01:14:54.000 I know.
01:14:54.000 They found alien bodies.
01:14:56.000 Like, if you ever wanted alien bodies, well, show me a body.
01:15:00.000 That's an alien body.
01:15:01.000 Yeah.
01:15:02.000 At the very least, it's not us.
01:15:04.000 So maybe it's from here and went extinct, or maybe it's in the ocean.
01:15:08.000 Or the congressional testimony of like high-level whistleblowers being like, we have these whatever, this ship, whatever you want to call it, that we've, and then it's like in a congressional testimony, and everyone's like, that's cool.
01:15:23.000 Nobody cares.
01:15:24.000 Yeah, everybody's like tick-tocking.
01:15:24.000 Nobody cares.
01:15:26.000 But it was funny that Nikki Milnaj is on stage at the TPUSR.
01:15:31.000 It's crazy.
01:15:32.000 It's really crazy to me.
01:15:33.000 Yeah.
01:15:33.000 That's like, that's not captivating people more.
01:15:37.000 Well, I think, you know, people are in a trance.
01:15:40.000 There's a giant percentage of our population that's in a trance.
01:15:43.000 That should be the main news other than the wars.
01:15:46.000 That should be the main news today.
01:15:48.000 Well, hopefully they're in a trance to watch my new special teacher on Netflix.
01:15:52.000 I like how you did that.
01:15:54.000 Go ahead and zone out and watch that with your family.
01:15:57.000 Yeah.
01:15:58.000 Wow, comedy's fucking super important when the world's going crazy.
01:16:01.000 It sure is.
01:16:02.000 When the world is going crazy right now.
01:16:04.000 Yeah.
01:16:04.000 We were talking about the Epstein releases before we got started.
01:16:08.000 Like, first of all, it's like the photo dump and the emails.
01:16:12.000 It's fucking nuts.
01:16:13.000 But it's also they're doing it so slowly.
01:16:16.000 Like you guys have had this stuff for a year.
01:16:19.000 And we were promised multiple times.
01:16:21.000 It's coming.
01:16:21.000 It's coming.
01:16:22.000 Doesn't it seem like you could just throw all that into AI at this stage of the game?
01:16:26.000 Yes.
01:16:27.000 And just redact the names of the victims and let's go.
01:16:30.000 Yeah, of course.
01:16:31.000 It seems like that would take five minutes.
01:16:33.000 I mean, it feels like, I mean, you can't help but feel like the administration is just like watching their back, and that's why it's happening.
01:16:41.000 Watching someone's back.
01:16:42.000 I mean, it's all speculative why they haven't released it, but it's not good.
01:16:47.000 It's not good for everybody's confidence.
01:16:49.000 And also, it's not good that this thing was going on, that they had this bizarre blackmail operation running.
01:16:57.000 That's very weird.
01:16:58.000 Very strange.
01:16:59.000 Very weird.
01:17:00.000 But it kind of makes sense.
01:17:01.000 Because if you're a 60-year-old billionaire and you're a freak and you like to get your freak on, but unfortunately, you're a gigantic software developer and everybody knows who you are.
01:17:10.000 It's hard to get your freak on.
01:17:11.000 Well, that's the thing is, it makes sense when you go like, oh, some of these dudes really liked visiting that place.
01:17:17.000 It's like, that's the only place they can go.
01:17:19.000 You can't go anywhere else.
01:17:19.000 Right.
01:17:21.000 And that's why they set it up for them.
01:17:21.000 Right.
01:17:23.000 Yeah.
01:17:23.000 Eric Weinstein said that to me once.
01:17:25.000 He like, I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense.
01:17:28.000 If you're the former president of the United States, you can't go to a nightclub.
01:17:31.000 Yeah, he said, I think there are people out there that provide experiences for certain people that have a hunger for them.
01:17:37.000 I was like, of course.
01:17:38.000 Of course.
01:17:39.000 Of course.
01:17:39.000 And that's also how they compromise people, too, right?
01:17:43.000 Oh, yeah.
01:17:43.000 That's how they get you to vote the way they want you to vote and play ball.
01:17:47.000 Bobby, we got video.
01:17:48.000 You sucking a dick.
01:17:49.000 Yeah.
01:17:49.000 Yeah.
01:17:50.000 What do you want to do?
01:17:51.000 What do you want to do?
01:17:52.000 Yeah.
01:17:52.000 Because I bet all those people have something on them.
01:17:56.000 That's how they stay in the game.
01:17:58.000 They have to.
01:17:59.000 You have skull and bones.
01:18:00.000 You got to suck the dick.
01:18:02.000 Otherwise, we can't trust you.
01:18:03.000 For the Epstein shit, look at the level of people that we're visiting.
01:18:07.000 I mean, it's all at the highest level of influence, power, and fame.
01:18:12.000 Yeah.
01:18:13.000 And so you go, yeah, this dude wants to do some wild shit.
01:18:15.000 He can't go to fucking, he can't go to cheetahs and get it done.
01:18:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:18:20.000 He can't do it.
01:18:21.000 He's got to go somewhere.
01:18:22.000 Yeah.
01:18:23.000 What sounds good?
01:18:24.000 A private island.
01:18:25.000 Yeah, he can't just order up a call girl.
01:18:27.000 Uh-uh.
01:18:29.000 It's too risky.
01:18:30.000 I'm going to Captain Billionaire's house to suck his dick.
01:18:30.000 Where are you going?
01:18:33.000 I do it every Tuesday.
01:18:34.000 Plus, I'm on meth, and I'm really good at keeping secrets.
01:18:37.000 Yeah.
01:18:38.000 These guys, the fucking, it's dark.
01:18:41.000 It's fucking dark.
01:18:42.000 So some guy comes along and says, I can take care of your problem.
01:18:46.000 And then.
01:18:47.000 And everybody says, oh, trust me, he's a great guy.
01:18:47.000 Yeah.
01:18:50.000 He's really cool.
01:18:51.000 And he also does this thing.
01:18:54.000 Great sense of humor.
01:18:54.000 Yeah.
01:18:55.000 His staff love him.
01:18:57.000 They also do this thing where, you know, it's like you're going to hang out with other famous people, so it must be safe.
01:19:04.000 Hey, Bill Clinton's here.
01:19:06.000 This is no problem.
01:19:08.000 This is a statement released by the spokesperson or spokesman for Bill Clinton.
01:19:13.000 Oh, let's read that.
01:19:14.000 There's a person who signed it.
01:19:14.000 Wait a minute.
01:19:17.000 My name is Angel Urina, spokesman for the former President Bill Clinton.
01:19:23.000 Isn't that weird?
01:19:24.000 He's a deputy chief of staff for Bill Clinton.
01:19:27.000 Okay.
01:19:29.000 He's still got a chief of staff.
01:19:30.000 What does he do these days?
01:19:32.000 Epstein Files Transparency Act imposes a clear legal duty on the U.S. Department of Justice to produce the full and complete record of the public demands and deserves that the public demands and deserves.
01:19:42.000 However, what the Department of Justice has released so far and the manner in which it did so makes one thing clear.
01:19:48.000 Someone or something is being protected.
01:19:50.000 We do not know whom, what, or why.
01:19:53.000 This is like the killer pretending to be the detective.
01:19:56.000 Yeah.
01:19:57.000 We've got to solve this crime.
01:19:59.000 We do not know whom.
01:20:01.000 This is the killer joining the search party.
01:20:02.000 We do not know whom, what, or why.
01:20:05.000 We have photos of you in a fucking hot tub, buddy.
01:20:08.000 But we do know this.
01:20:09.000 We need no such protection.
01:20:11.000 Accordingly, we call on President Trump to direct Attorney General Bondi to immediately release any remaining materials referring to, mentioning, or containing a photograph of Bill Clinton.
01:20:22.000 This includes, without limitation, any records that may exist and are subject to disclosure under the Act Public Law 119-38, enacted on November 19th, 2025, including grand jury transcripts, interview notes, photographs, and findings.
01:20:37.000 This means a deal was made.
01:20:38.000 So if you release, you have a press release like that, that means the call went well.
01:20:42.000 Yeah.
01:20:42.000 You got a deal in.
01:20:44.000 Whew, we're good.
01:20:45.000 We are good.
01:20:46.000 All we have to do is let him run for a third term.
01:20:48.000 And look.
01:20:48.000 And we're fine.
01:20:50.000 He's.
01:20:55.000 Dude, Clinton chilling in that hot tub, too.
01:20:58.000 Hey, I would chill in a hot tub, too.
01:21:00.000 It feels nice.
01:21:00.000 Yeah, it feels nice, but it's just like what's the big deal.
01:21:03.000 You're chilling in a hot tub.
01:21:04.000 If I went to your house and you had a hot tub, like, let's all get in the hot tub.
01:21:07.000 I get in there.
01:21:07.000 Come on, picture me.
01:21:08.000 I'm like, fuck, dude.
01:21:09.000 I don't even know her.
01:21:10.000 Yeah.
01:21:11.000 Why'd you do that?
01:21:12.000 I don't know.
01:21:12.000 I didn't know how old she was.
01:21:14.000 And you got cameras up all over your house.
01:21:16.000 Yeah.
01:21:18.000 He knew what he was doing.
01:21:18.000 Oh, yeah.
01:21:19.000 Probably watching people do Coke in the bathroom.
01:21:21.000 You got cameras of that.
01:21:22.000 They were probably doing all kinds of shit.
01:21:24.000 He was compromising a lot of people.
01:21:26.000 And made a shit ton of money doing it.
01:21:29.000 God damn, he sure did.
01:21:30.000 Boy, that's what's really weird.
01:21:32.000 Like, he got gifted a giant mansion in Manhattan by that dude from Victoria.
01:21:37.000 Victoria's Secret, yeah.
01:21:38.000 And that guy was like, yeah, he was just running my finances, but then I didn't realize what kind of guy he was.
01:21:45.000 But I gave him billions of dollars to manage.
01:21:47.000 And you're like, what?
01:21:48.000 Yeah.
01:21:49.000 I didn't know what kind of a guy he was after he got arrested for having sex with underage girls.
01:21:49.000 That's what you do.
01:21:54.000 And so then I stopped working with him.
01:21:56.000 Okay.
01:21:57.000 My favorite one was when they were questioning Bill Gates about it.
01:22:02.000 And he goes, well, he's dead now, so you got to be careful.
01:22:06.000 No.
01:22:06.000 Do you ever see that?
01:22:07.000 Oh, it's crazy.
01:22:08.000 That's it.
01:22:08.000 That's his story.
01:22:09.000 She asked him why he had these interactions with Jeffrey Epstein.
01:22:09.000 That's crazy.
01:22:16.000 And he's essentially saying it was a mistake.
01:22:18.000 I was hoping that he was going to do a lot of work with philanthropy.
01:22:22.000 He's going to help me out with philanthropy.
01:22:25.000 Right.
01:22:26.000 That's why I meet with him so many times.
01:22:28.000 But the end result, the final statement that was chilling, is like, he's dead now.
01:22:34.000 So you have to be careful.
01:22:35.000 Like, what?
01:22:37.000 What does that mean?
01:22:38.000 What does that mean?
01:22:39.000 What do you mean?
01:22:39.000 Be careful to not hang yourself in jail, which is what the official story is, right?
01:22:43.000 Is that what you mean?
01:22:44.000 Be careful or you'll hang yourself in jail?
01:22:46.000 Is that what you're saying?
01:22:47.000 No, it's not what you're saying.
01:22:48.000 You're saying, be careful because someone killed him, right?
01:22:51.000 Which is what we all think, which is why there's no fucking, the cameras were down, which is why the guards were asleep, which is why his fucking, his gigantic roommate who was a murderer and a drug-dealing cop who assassinated people, who's built like a fucking gorilla.
01:23:08.000 You ever see his roommate?
01:23:09.000 No.
01:23:09.000 You never saw Jeffrey Epstein's roommate?
01:23:10.000 Uh-uh.
01:23:11.000 Oh, boy.
01:23:12.000 He had a cellmate when he was there.
01:23:14.000 Bro, not only did he have a cellmate, he had a cellmate that murdered several people in drug deals who was a cop.
01:23:21.000 He was a gigantic roided-up psychopath.
01:23:24.000 This is the roommate.
01:23:25.000 I remember.
01:23:26.000 He could get that guy to kill him for extra cigarettes, is what my point is.
01:23:29.000 He's in jail for life.
01:23:30.000 I remember that guy?
01:23:32.000 That guy.
01:23:33.000 That was his fucking roommate.
01:23:35.000 Just imagine what kind of a plan you would have for the biggest defendant in any sort of high-level espionage, possibly involving foreign governments.
01:23:52.000 And you'd put him in a prison cell, a cage, with a guy who's committed four different murders.
01:24:02.000 That guy was a cop?
01:24:03.000 Yes.
01:24:04.000 Look at the build on this motherfucker.
01:24:06.000 Look at the size of this guy.
01:24:07.000 Yeah.
01:24:08.000 This is the guy.
01:24:10.000 He put a murderer.
01:24:11.000 Yeah, he's a sweet guy.
01:24:11.000 That's nice.
01:24:12.000 You put a murderer.
01:24:14.000 Well, he ought to have a bunch of things barking in case anyone came near his property to get back at him.
01:24:19.000 Do you remember that famous forensic Michael Badden?
01:24:24.000 Michael Badden.
01:24:25.000 Yeah.
01:24:25.000 He testified that the hyoid, I think it's called the hyoid bone that was snapped on Epstein was far more consistent with, as he says, a homicide.
01:24:39.000 Yeah.
01:24:40.000 Then it bothers me so much that he says it like that.
01:24:43.000 Homicide.
01:24:44.000 Yeah.
01:24:45.000 I think he said it was broken in two places.
01:24:47.000 He's like, that's much more consistent with homicide than suicide.
01:24:50.000 Yeah, it was someone strangled him.
01:24:52.000 Someone strangled him from behind.
01:24:53.000 It was also the position.
01:24:54.000 Here it is.
01:24:55.000 Play this.
01:24:58.000 I saw Brett doing that.
01:25:00.000 He had relationships with people he said would give to global health, which is an interest I have.
01:25:08.000 Not nearly enough philanthropy goes in that direction.
01:25:12.000 Those meetings were a mistake.
01:25:15.000 They didn't result in what he purported, and I cut them off.
01:25:20.000 That goes back a long time ago now.
01:25:24.000 So there's nothing new on that.
01:25:26.000 It was reported that you continue to meet with him over several years and that, in other words, a number of meetings.
01:25:35.000 What did you do when you found out about his background?
01:25:40.000 Well, I said I regretted having those dinners.
01:25:46.000 And there's nothing, absolutely nothing new on that.
01:25:49.000 Is there a lesson for you, for anyone else looking at this?
01:25:55.000 Well, he's dead.
01:25:56.000 So, you know, in general, you always have to be careful.
01:26:02.000 And, you know, I'm very proud of what we've done in philanthropy, very proud of the work of the foundation.
01:26:12.000 You know, that's what I get up every day and focus on.
01:26:16.000 Me too.
01:26:17.000 I'm a good guy.
01:26:21.000 Jesus Christ.
01:26:22.000 Imagine if he was reading for a film.
01:26:24.000 You'd be like, I don't believe a word you just said.
01:26:26.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:26:27.000 I don't believe a word you said.
01:26:28.000 Take two.
01:26:28.000 Let's do this.
01:26:29.000 Okay, who wrote this?
01:26:30.000 Like, he's going to just transition from hanging out with this guy.
01:26:33.000 He's dead now to I'm really proud of the work we've done with philanthropy.
01:26:38.000 Let's shift this conversation in a much more positive place.
01:26:41.000 That's a PR spin.
01:26:42.000 I'm super proud of the work we've done with philanthropy.
01:26:45.000 He got into all that stuff in the first place after the Microsoft stuff.
01:26:49.000 Because Microsoft at one point in time had all this anti-competitive accusations.
01:26:55.000 Yeah.
01:26:55.000 Right.
01:26:56.000 And so he was thought as being this guy that was drowning out competition, was monopolizing.
01:27:04.000 Yeah.
01:27:04.000 So then he pivoted, became a philanthropist.
01:27:07.000 It's a good move.
01:27:08.000 It is a good move.
01:27:09.000 You know who else did that?
01:27:11.000 The guy who invented the Nobel Prize.
01:27:13.000 Really?
01:27:14.000 Peter Berg told me the story.
01:27:14.000 Yeah.
01:27:16.000 It's a cool story.
01:27:17.000 So he dies.
01:27:18.000 The guy, I forget what his first name is.
01:27:20.000 His last name is Nobel.
01:27:22.000 He died, and everybody called him the merchant of death because he made dynamite.
01:27:26.000 Oh.
01:27:27.000 So he didn't really die, though.
01:27:29.000 It was a fake story.
01:27:31.000 So he saw the stories.
01:27:32.000 He's like, hey, I'm not dead.
01:27:34.000 But oh my God, this is how people think about me?
01:27:36.000 This is how they're going to write about me after I'm dead.
01:27:38.000 I got to do something to clean my image up.
01:27:40.000 So to clean his image up, he invents the Nobel Prize.
01:27:44.000 He starts giving out these prizes for peace and for physics and Nobel Prize.
01:27:48.000 Literature.
01:27:49.000 Yeah.
01:27:49.000 And so then the Nobel Prize becomes synonymous with excellence.
01:27:53.000 The name Nobel is now connected to that instead of connected to killing a bunch of motherfuckers with dynamite.
01:28:00.000 That's a great marketing move on his part.
01:28:02.000 What was his real name?
01:28:02.000 Yeah.
01:28:05.000 Alfred Nobel.
01:28:06.000 Alfred Nobel.
01:28:07.000 Made dynamite, right?
01:28:08.000 That was the thing?
01:28:09.000 Yeah, but I'm looking at the Nobel Prize.
01:28:13.000 It says there's a well-known story about the origin of the Nobel Prize, although historians have been unable to verify it and some dismiss it as a myth.
01:28:19.000 Well, let's find out if the story of him being called the merchant of death are true and the fake death when people thought he died.
01:28:27.000 Is that true?
01:28:28.000 I mean, I have to.
01:28:30.000 Just check that out real quick.
01:28:31.000 Look that out.
01:28:32.000 I bet it's true.
01:28:33.000 That's a good marketing move.
01:28:34.000 It's a move.
01:28:35.000 It's a move that people do, you know?
01:28:37.000 Well, that was also what, you know, some really evil people have done also, you know, like if you want to, like, serial killers, you know, like John Wayne Gacy was like, I do clown parties for kids.
01:28:51.000 Like, it's like, look over here.
01:28:53.000 I'm a fun guy.
01:28:54.000 You know, Cosby was always like, you know, telling people how to live their life.
01:28:59.000 Yeah.
01:28:59.000 Like, people are going to be able to do it.
01:29:00.000 Don't tell dirty jokes.
01:29:01.000 Yeah.
01:29:01.000 Don't curse.
01:29:02.000 Don't swear.
01:29:03.000 He would call people up and tell them not to swear anymore.
01:29:03.000 Yeah.
01:29:06.000 Yeah.
01:29:07.000 Oh, yeah, famously.
01:29:07.000 Matty Murphy.
01:29:09.000 Yeah.
01:29:10.000 With Florn Philf.
01:29:11.000 Yeah.
01:29:12.000 Yeah.
01:29:12.000 Yeah, he did do that.
01:29:14.000 He did do that.
01:29:15.000 I remember one time Wanda Sykes interviewed him at like some award thing.
01:29:19.000 He was in the crowd and she came up to him to interview him.
01:29:22.000 And he was like so rude to her.
01:29:24.000 He had so much disdain.
01:29:26.000 I remember that too.
01:29:26.000 Remember that?
01:29:27.000 It was weird.
01:29:28.000 Okay, Nobel grew extremely wealthy from inventions like dynamite and blasting gelatin, which are widely used in warfare and earned him the nickname the merchant of death in the press.
01:29:37.000 1888 French newspaper mistakenly published his obituary after his brother's death, condemning him as a man who became rich by finding ways to kill more people faster.
01:29:45.000 This stock, this shock, is widely seen as prompting him to rethink how he'd be remembered.
01:29:51.000 So it is true.
01:29:52.000 There should be no dispute of this.
01:29:54.000 In his will of 1895, he left most of his fortune to fund prizes for those who shall be conferred the greatest benefit on mankind.
01:30:03.000 Of course, you're dead.
01:30:04.000 You don't need your money.
01:30:05.000 Nobel never publicly explained his motives.
01:30:08.000 Fucking duh.
01:30:09.000 So historians emphasize that any account of his reason is an informed reconstruction, not a direct statement from him.
01:30:16.000 Okay, I get that because they're historians.
01:30:18.000 Did you see?
01:30:19.000 Did you see how I think it was these days?
01:30:23.000 You don't know what has to be confirmed or not, but it looked like on the Kennedy Center, they started putting the name Trump on it.
01:30:29.000 Yeah, he added his name to it.
01:30:30.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
01:30:33.000 And he took out the Kennedy Rose Garden.
01:30:35.000 You're like, what?
01:30:37.000 Just take it away.
01:30:38.000 Now it's like a cement fucking thing.
01:30:40.000 There's nothing nuttier than the plaques underneath the president's family.
01:30:44.000 That's insane.
01:30:44.000 That's insane.
01:30:45.000 Shane and I were just reading them the other day.
01:30:47.000 It's insane.
01:30:47.000 How is this real?
01:30:48.000 It doesn't feel real.
01:30:50.000 And you're just like, how are you allowed to do that?
01:30:51.000 That's the thing.
01:30:52.000 How is he allowed to write that?
01:30:54.000 In the White House, you can just probably, as president, do what you want in the White House.
01:30:58.000 Turns out you obviously can.
01:30:59.000 Yeah.
01:31:00.000 Because, but nobody ever did it before.
01:31:01.000 Those are going to get taken down.
01:31:03.000 No, they'll be up forever.
01:31:04.000 I don't think so.
01:31:05.000 They're going to leave it like that forever.
01:31:06.000 No fucking way.
01:31:07.000 Yeah, like a museum piece.
01:31:08.000 It's so crazy.
01:31:09.000 They should have like the Trump wing.
01:31:11.000 This is what happened when he was a president.
01:31:12.000 Look at this fucking lunatic.
01:31:14.000 The auto-pen photo of Joe Biden.
01:31:16.000 And the actual train of written crazy.
01:31:20.000 This is widely considered the worst president of all.
01:31:23.000 Like, what are you talking about?
01:31:24.000 It should be like a museum.
01:31:26.000 It should be the facts of his presidency, what happened during his term.
01:31:26.000 Yeah.
01:31:30.000 You know, the Iraq war started and da-da-da.
01:31:33.000 It should be that.
01:31:34.000 That's it.
01:31:34.000 Of course.
01:31:35.000 If that, you know.
01:31:37.000 And under Reagan, it's like Reagan liked Trump and Trump liked him too.
01:31:40.000 Trump was a fan of Reagan.
01:31:42.000 Why is that radical?
01:31:42.000 What?
01:31:43.000 Reagan was a fan of Trump.
01:31:44.000 What?
01:31:45.000 It's yeah.
01:31:46.000 Guys, nuts.
01:31:47.000 It's crazy.
01:31:48.000 But you can't just let someone just fucking fully swim in it like that.
01:31:53.000 So he needs like a right-hand man.
01:31:53.000 I know.
01:31:55.000 He goes, sir.
01:31:56.000 I think they just.
01:31:57.000 Let me just, I understand the motive.
01:31:59.000 Well, he's also losing it too.
01:32:01.000 You can tell.
01:32:01.000 Well, I think everybody does when you get to a certain age, right?
01:32:04.000 Yeah, of course.
01:32:04.000 I mean, the guy's about to be 80, right?
01:32:06.000 Right.
01:32:06.000 So there's no.
01:32:07.000 And also, the stress of going through what that guy went through where they were trying to jail him when they were going after him with the Russia thing, the Russia hoax, and all that shit.
01:32:17.000 Like, they were trying everything they could to destroy him.
01:32:20.000 Just that alone's got to break your brain.
01:32:22.000 It radicalizes you.
01:32:23.000 It makes sense.
01:32:24.000 And then they took a shot at him.
01:32:25.000 Somebody shot him.
01:32:25.000 Yeah.
01:32:26.000 Then that guy dies.
01:32:27.000 And then when the guy dies, they find out that his apartment's been professionally scrubbed.
01:32:32.000 They find out he was in a BlackRock commercial like two years before that.
01:32:36.000 He was?
01:32:37.000 Oh, yeah.
01:32:38.000 The shooter?
01:32:38.000 The shooter.
01:32:39.000 Oh, yeah.
01:32:40.000 Was he an actor?
01:32:41.000 In the film.
01:32:42.000 But obviously he was connected to some people that knew some people.
01:32:42.000 Yeah.
01:32:46.000 What does that mean?
01:32:47.000 It might mean nothing.
01:32:48.000 Yeah.
01:32:49.000 But there's also a lot of weirdness to his past.
01:32:53.000 It does.
01:32:53.000 He doesn't have a social media profile.
01:32:55.000 It was like he seems like an MK Ultra plant.
01:32:59.000 This presidency, though, does feel like a parody of a real thing.
01:33:03.000 Like, it doesn't even feel real.
01:33:05.000 There's a lot of stuff that doesn't feel real.
01:33:08.000 For sure, the Rob Reiner thing didn't feel real.
01:33:10.000 Oh, my God.
01:33:11.000 That seems so insane.
01:33:12.000 You know, I didn't realize because I obviously knew him.
01:33:16.000 I knew Rob Reiner as the actor from All in the Family, which he was great in that role.
01:33:21.000 And then I have memories of like, I always think of when Harry met Sally, the Princess Bride.
01:33:28.000 Yep.
01:33:29.000 And I was like, oh, yeah, you know, spy stand by me.
01:33:32.000 So I'm like, oh, you know, great storyteller, comedy.
01:33:35.000 I didn't realize until he died that he did misery.
01:33:37.000 I had no idea that was him.
01:33:39.000 Yeah, he did misery too.
01:33:40.000 Yeah.
01:33:40.000 He did so many great films.
01:33:41.000 He really did.
01:33:42.000 He really understood like human emotion and storytelling across the board.
01:33:48.000 Because it's one thing to be proficient in comedy.
01:33:51.000 And you see this sometimes with comedy really high-level like Adam McKay did so much high-level comedy with Saturday Night Live and then Talladega Nights and those big Will Farrell movies.
01:34:04.000 And then his pivot into drama is like exceptional.
01:34:07.000 He's really, really good at it.
01:34:09.000 And it's like really remarkable when they can make that jump.
01:34:12.000 Yeah.
01:34:13.000 He's really, really good.
01:34:14.000 Well, Jordan Peele, he's fantastic.
01:34:14.000 Yeah.
01:34:17.000 Another one.
01:34:17.000 Yeah.
01:34:18.000 Yeah.
01:34:19.000 He's made some giant horror movies that are just like.
01:34:24.000 And he was so funny in comedy.
01:34:26.000 It's weird how good they are.
01:34:26.000 I know.
01:34:28.000 It's weird how different they are, too.
01:34:31.000 How they go like, I'm comedy, I'm comedy.
01:34:31.000 Yeah.
01:34:32.000 And then like this hard pivot into a totally different lane and be not just, let me try it, but be like excellent at it.
01:34:38.000 Yeah.
01:34:39.000 But I kind of get it, right?
01:34:40.000 It's like if you can get really good at comedy, like which is a complicated thing to do, you for sure have other creative thoughts.
01:34:48.000 Yeah, you're not access to other things.
01:34:50.000 And you're not really probably using those.
01:34:54.000 Yeah, and I think also they get, I think a lot of those guys get bored.
01:34:57.000 Especially running a sketch show, right?
01:34:58.000 Yeah.
01:34:59.000 Like after a while, you just beat all the topics to death.
01:35:02.000 You know, I mean, how many topics on, especially like a mid-sketch show, are so derivative.
01:35:07.000 Yeah, of course.
01:35:08.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that.
01:35:09.000 And they just go, I did it.
01:35:11.000 There's nothing else to jump into.
01:35:12.000 Well, you might have like nine episodes you have to bang out.
01:35:15.000 Well, I don't have to tell you.
01:35:15.000 You're actually in the middle of it.
01:35:16.000 I'm in the middle of it.
01:35:17.000 Yeah.
01:35:17.000 We just finished writing season two.
01:35:19.000 But you have your show is a giant advantage.
01:35:23.000 You could just, you could go so far and be so ridiculous.
01:35:26.000 They kind of just let us do what we want, which is really crazy.
01:35:30.000 I got the same notes I got the first season.
01:35:32.000 Don't say the N-word.
01:35:33.000 That was basically it.
01:35:35.000 That's like, that's my everything else.
01:35:38.000 They're like, yeah, you can do that.
01:35:39.000 It's such a crazy show, dude.
01:35:41.000 Crazy.
01:35:41.000 It's really fun, though.
01:35:42.000 It's so much fun.
01:35:43.000 I had so much fun doing it.
01:35:45.000 I can't believe I get to do it again.
01:35:47.000 And it's just, it is such a blast.
01:35:48.000 We get to make these like sketches and like little short films that are like whatever we can think of, whatever the craziest thing we can think of.
01:35:55.000 And they're just like, yeah, do that.
01:35:58.000 And they gave us a mandate.
01:36:00.000 They're like, we'd rather tell you that's too far than you should have gone further.
01:36:07.000 So they're just like, you can make it as crazy as you want.
01:36:07.000 Right.
01:36:10.000 That's nuts.
01:36:11.000 Yeah.
01:36:11.000 But that's the beautiful thing about Netflix: the variety of what's on there.
01:36:15.000 It's just so bananas.
01:36:17.000 It's so wide-ranging.
01:36:19.000 There's so much shit on there.
01:36:20.000 I just watched The Beast in Me.
01:36:23.000 I'm on episode three right now.
01:36:23.000 Oh, yeah.
01:36:25.000 Don't tell me anything.
01:36:26.000 It gets so much better.
01:36:27.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:36:28.000 I'm sure it does.
01:36:30.000 How good is Claire Dane?
01:36:31.000 Claire Dane's amazing.
01:36:32.000 Matthew Rees plays.
01:36:34.000 He's a psycho.
01:36:35.000 Yeah.
01:36:36.000 He's phenomenal.
01:36:36.000 That guy's great.
01:36:37.000 And he plays that part so exceptionally well.
01:36:41.000 I mean, it's just so good.
01:36:43.000 Yeah, you can know people like him.
01:36:44.000 You know people like him, and you know, you're like, this is a fucking psycho, dude.
01:36:47.000 Oh, yeah.
01:36:48.000 He's great at it.
01:36:48.000 Yeah.
01:36:48.000 Yeah.
01:36:49.000 And it's like in the eyes.
01:36:50.000 It's always in the eyes.
01:36:51.000 You know, you see it in the eyes.
01:36:53.000 It's like.
01:36:53.000 Yeah, he's really, he's got a darkness in him.
01:36:56.000 He really does.
01:36:56.000 He ain't faking it.
01:36:57.000 He ain't faking it.
01:36:59.000 You know what else I just saw?
01:37:00.000 I saw it on Peacock, and I was like, I was like, I don't, like, I don't have Peacock.
01:37:05.000 I'm like, I don't fuck.
01:37:06.000 This is like, you know, fucking Kevin Hart in a bathtub interview.
01:37:06.000 What are they?
01:37:10.000 Like, I don't know what's on Peacock.
01:37:12.000 I love Kevin, by the way.
01:37:13.000 But like, it's like, you know what I mean?
01:37:14.000 Like these fun, still, that's what I thought Peacock was or old.
01:37:17.000 NBC.
01:37:17.000 Yeah, reruns of like their old friends.
01:37:19.000 Yeah.
01:37:20.000 I'm like, I don't want to fuck it.
01:37:21.000 And I got recommended to watch The Day of the Jackal.
01:37:25.000 What's that?
01:37:25.000 Fucking fantastic.
01:37:27.000 Really?
01:37:28.000 Yeah.
01:37:29.000 It's a thriller that is super high production and very cinematic, but the writing and the acting unbelievable.
01:37:39.000 Who's in it?
01:37:40.000 Eddie Redmain.
01:37:41.000 I think it's his name.
01:37:42.000 Eddie Redmain is the lead in it.
01:37:44.000 And I don't know that many of the names of the other actors, but it's incredibly produced.
01:37:51.000 Is it a series?
01:37:51.000 Yeah.
01:37:52.000 How many episodes?
01:37:53.000 So they're making season two now.
01:37:55.000 I think season one was 10 episodes.
01:37:57.000 $120 million budget for the season.
01:37:57.000 Wow.
01:38:00.000 Whoa, I'm writing this down.
01:38:01.000 Day of the Jackal.
01:38:02.000 Day of the Jackal was excellent.
01:38:04.000 Yeah.
01:38:05.000 Okay.
01:38:06.000 This is it.
01:38:06.000 Let's skim through the trailer.
01:38:07.000 We're going to watch it.
01:38:08.000 No, let's watch this fucking trail.
01:38:10.000 It's fucking, that's, that's Eddie.
01:38:12.000 It's really good, dude.
01:38:15.000 I couldn't believe how captivated I was by it.
01:38:18.000 Really, really well done.
01:38:20.000 It's a like an espionage type of thriller.
01:38:23.000 Those are my favorite.
01:38:24.000 Mine too.
01:38:26.000 But this is what I watch instead of, you know, we were talking about comedy.
01:38:30.000 I watch this shit.
01:38:31.000 Oh, yeah.
01:38:31.000 Yeah, me too.
01:38:32.000 Yeah.
01:38:33.000 He's really good in it, but so is everybody else.
01:38:35.000 They're really, really good.
01:38:37.000 Okay.
01:38:38.000 I'm going to see him.
01:38:38.000 I can't recommend it enough.
01:38:39.000 Okay.
01:38:40.000 I'm on it.
01:38:41.000 Really good.
01:38:42.000 Yeah, there's enough shit to watch these days.
01:38:44.000 I'll tell you that.
01:38:45.000 Do you watch Dave?
01:38:46.000 Do you watch Dave's special?
01:38:46.000 You're sick.
01:38:46.000 What?
01:38:48.000 Dave's Chappelle?
01:38:49.000 No, I didn't see it yet.
01:38:50.000 It's great.
01:38:51.000 Yeah.
01:38:52.000 I saw some clips.
01:38:53.000 It's great.
01:38:53.000 I mean, it's vintage.
01:38:55.000 It's Dave.
01:38:58.000 He does what he does so well.
01:39:01.000 There's silliness, seriousness.
01:39:04.000 Seriousness.
01:39:05.000 Some philosophy.
01:39:05.000 Yeah.
01:39:06.000 Lots of social commentary, provocative things, hilarious.
01:39:12.000 It's good.
01:39:13.000 I'll check it out.
01:39:13.000 It's really good.
01:39:14.000 I'm sure it's going to be awesome.
01:39:15.000 He's always awesome.
01:39:16.000 He never misses.
01:39:17.000 He doesn't.
01:39:18.000 I mean, he pissed a lot of people off, which is always fun.
01:39:21.000 Yeah.
01:39:21.000 I saw he went after Bill Maher.
01:39:23.000 Yeah, he's a fucked dude.
01:39:25.000 It's very funny.
01:39:26.000 I never said this publicly about fuck that dude.
01:39:28.000 It's very funny.
01:39:30.000 It's a good special, man.
01:39:31.000 It's really good.
01:39:32.000 It's funny.
01:39:32.000 Dave's in top four.
01:39:33.000 I love that for me, by the way, because my special comes out Christmas Eve, right?
01:39:40.000 And then six days later, Ricky Gervais comes out.
01:39:44.000 Wow.
01:39:45.000 And that was supposed to be, that was the release timeline, right?
01:39:48.000 They're like, there's one earlier in the month, and they're like, you'll be Christmas Eve.
01:39:53.000 A week later, Ricky Gervais.
01:39:55.000 I was like, cool.
01:39:57.000 And then like three days prior, I get a call before it's announced.
01:40:01.000 And they're like, hey, we got to tell you, we're dropping a special, unannounced Chappelle special tonight.
01:40:06.000 And I go, great.
01:40:08.000 And they're like, I know, you know, it's going to take up a lot of oxygen in the room, obviously, because it's Dave, right?
01:40:15.000 I go, yeah, I mean, I understand.
01:40:17.000 I go, you realize this is like being a musical artist, and I've been working on my album, and you guys are like, we're so excited.
01:40:23.000 And then you call me, you're like, just so you know, tomorrow we're releasing Radiohead's new album.
01:40:27.000 And you're like, thanks.
01:40:30.000 I mean, there's like, there's nothing you can do.
01:40:31.000 It's like the biggest guy is coming out with it, you know?
01:40:34.000 But it's hilarious.
01:40:35.000 He's great.
01:40:36.000 But people will watch it.
01:40:37.000 It's only an hour and then they're going to want to watch more.
01:40:40.000 That's the, well, it's good.
01:40:41.000 That's one of the thoughts is they go, like, it just makes stand-up more popular.
01:40:45.000 Yeah.
01:40:45.000 I think so.
01:40:45.000 100%.
01:40:46.000 Stand-up is very popular right now.
01:40:46.000 Yeah.
01:40:48.000 It's incredibly popular.
01:40:49.000 Yeah.
01:40:50.000 I mean, there's more arena acts.
01:40:51.000 I just saw Nate Bergasi added a 3 p.m. show out here.
01:40:55.000 Nate is on.
01:40:57.000 But Nate's thing makes sense when you think about it.
01:40:59.000 When you start doing stand-up, there's this thing that happens.
01:41:02.000 When you're early on, young doing stand-up, and you start to do spots, a lot of people will be like, hey, if you can, curse less, be clean.
01:41:12.000 And you're like, that's not who I am.
01:41:14.000 And they're like, all right, well, and they always say this thing, like, you'll get more opportunities.
01:41:18.000 Different opportunities will come to you if you're like that.
01:41:20.000 Right.
01:41:21.000 You're like, whatever.
01:41:21.000 It's just, I don't do that.
01:41:24.000 When you're really funny, like Nate is, and you get really good, what you see on the business side of it is that when he announces a show, like when I announce a show, a couple might go, let's go see him, right?
01:41:38.000 Like, they'll buy two tickets.
01:41:40.000 But when Nate announces a show, that couple will bring their children, their parents, their in-laws, their neighbors.
01:41:48.000 So, two tickets you can sell.
01:41:50.000 He could sell 12.
01:41:51.000 And everybody's going to enjoy it.
01:41:53.000 And they're all going to enjoy it.
01:41:53.000 Yeah, because even if, even though it's just clean, it's always clean.
01:41:57.000 It's hilarious.
01:41:58.000 It's hilarious.
01:41:59.000 He's really funny.
01:41:59.000 But he's really funny again.
01:42:01.000 Gaffigan has that thing too.
01:42:02.000 Definitely.
01:42:03.000 The whole family can go.
01:42:04.000 Sebastian has that thing too.
01:42:05.000 Like, you can bring anybody to see Sebastian.
01:42:07.000 And they'll all have a good time.
01:42:08.000 Yeah.
01:42:09.000 But yeah, he can do three fucking arena shows in a city.
01:42:12.000 It's crazy.
01:42:13.000 Yeah, it is nuts.
01:42:14.000 But there's more people doing that now.
01:42:16.000 Like I mentioned, Sebastian, you, Bert, Tony.
01:42:20.000 I mean, there's Shane.
01:42:21.000 Shane's doing a football arena.
01:42:24.000 That's crazy.
01:42:25.000 A stadium.
01:42:25.000 Yeah, he's doing it.
01:42:26.000 He's doing like 90,000 people.
01:42:27.000 Yeah, Lincoln Financial, I think it is.
01:42:29.000 There's people doing that now where there's so many of them where when we were coming up, the only people that had done it were Dane and Dice Club.
01:42:39.000 It was dice playing Dane Cook.
01:42:39.000 Dice, yeah.
01:42:41.000 And for that, you have to just go like, that is the internet, man.
01:42:44.000 The internet made stand-up global.
01:42:46.000 Well, the internet made Dane, right?
01:42:47.000 Right, right.
01:42:48.000 That's how it was.
01:42:49.000 Like, he got huge from MySpace.
01:42:51.000 He was the first guy.
01:42:52.000 The fact that so many of us can move those kinds of tickets.
01:42:54.000 Oh, yeah.
01:42:55.000 It's a it's because it's global.
01:42:56.000 100%.
01:42:57.000 When it was just like, hey, catch my special at Comedy Central at nine o'clock on Friday, right?
01:43:02.000 It's not going to have the same reach.
01:43:04.000 Right, right.
01:43:05.000 And it's just clips, too.
01:43:07.000 Clips get shared, and then there's so much word of mouth.
01:43:10.000 It's like that's the one good thing about social media: if something comes out and people like it, whether it's a new special that dropped or a new song or anything, it just gets shared.
01:43:20.000 It just gets shared.
01:43:21.000 So crazy.
01:43:22.000 And things just take off.
01:43:22.000 Yeah.
01:43:24.000 I know.
01:43:25.000 It's wild.
01:43:26.000 I never, I mean, I did 40 arenas this year.
01:43:29.000 Like, I was never thinking that would be a thing.
01:43:34.000 You know, I remember when I met you.
01:43:36.000 I met you in 2007.
01:43:36.000 Yeah.
01:43:38.000 We did that Real Men of Comedy tour together.
01:43:42.000 Yeah.
01:43:42.000 I met you in Phoenix.
01:43:44.000 We did that little Hollywood theater, which I love.
01:43:46.000 That's celebrity theater.
01:43:48.000 That's right.
01:43:48.000 That place is awesome.
01:43:50.000 That's one of my favorites.
01:43:51.000 In the round and it spins.
01:43:53.000 It's awesome.
01:43:54.000 That place rules.
01:43:55.000 And I always love Phoenix, period.
01:43:56.000 They're fun.
01:43:57.000 That's a fun place.
01:43:58.000 Yeah, that's a really good place.
01:44:00.000 Yeah, I went back there on this tour too.
01:44:02.000 I went to the, I did the big arena there this time.
01:44:05.000 It was fucking amazing.
01:44:07.000 It was one of my favorite shows of this tour.
01:44:08.000 Yeah, it's Phoenix rules.
01:44:11.000 Yeah, I've done the arena in Phoenix too.
01:44:12.000 It's fucking fun, man.
01:44:14.000 It's a fun city.
01:44:14.000 They're fun.
01:44:15.000 Yeah, because they don't have much culture, but they do a lot of blow.
01:44:18.000 They do have a lot of people.
01:44:19.000 They like to party.
01:44:20.000 They party hard.
01:44:21.000 Phoenix, Arizona just parties hard.
01:44:23.000 They party hard.
01:44:24.000 Well, it's like, think about the people that had to settle that place first.
01:44:29.000 And you get cowboys and Mexicans, just fucking wild people.
01:44:32.000 It is, dude.
01:44:33.000 And then you got Scottsdale, which is all rich people.
01:44:35.000 I remember we went to dinner, like that, I think, the night before, just like a steakhouse.
01:44:41.000 And we were just like, we were like observing that when you go to dinner at a steakhouse in Phoenix, it feels like an after-party, but it's just dinner.
01:44:50.000 Do you know what I mean?
01:44:50.000 Like the vibe in there is that people are having a fucking good time.
01:44:54.000 They're partying.
01:44:55.000 Yeah.
01:44:55.000 That's what Phoenix feels like.
01:44:57.000 Yeah.
01:44:58.000 I always liked it because it was not Hollywood, you know?
01:45:01.000 Yeah.
01:45:02.000 In every way.
01:45:03.000 It was just not Hollywood.
01:45:04.000 Yeah.
01:45:04.000 Those people had no preconceived ideas of their own celebrity.
01:45:09.000 They didn't want to become famous.
01:45:11.000 Like the problem with LA is the entire culture is wrapped around the possibility that you might become famous.
01:45:17.000 And that everybody really secretly wants to become famous.
01:45:17.000 Yeah.
01:45:20.000 And some people might make it and some people won't.
01:45:22.000 But the reason that they came there in the first place is because they wanted to be famous.
01:45:26.000 Phoenix, they just want Coke.
01:45:29.000 Get some Coke.
01:45:30.000 I fucking party.
01:45:31.000 I'm playing golf in the day.
01:45:32.000 Yeah.
01:45:33.000 And I'm doing coke.
01:45:34.000 I'm having a good fucking time.
01:45:35.000 They're wild people.
01:45:36.000 That theater thing, too.
01:45:37.000 There's a.
01:45:38.000 I don't know if I'm right about this, but I've been told that there's only two, maybe three theaters left in the round in the country.
01:45:47.000 That's the only one that I know of.
01:45:48.000 Well, there's the one in Long Island that I also did that was, it's so fucking which one's that?
01:45:52.000 Westbury Music Hall, I think it's called.
01:45:54.000 Okay.
01:45:54.000 Is that what it's called?
01:45:55.000 I've heard of that place.
01:45:55.000 I didn't know that was in the round.
01:45:57.000 It is so fucking fun.
01:45:57.000 That's in the round.
01:45:59.000 The round rules.
01:46:00.000 I just did it.
01:46:01.000 I did it a couple months ago.
01:46:02.000 It was one of the most fun shows of the entire tour.
01:46:04.000 I try to explain to people who had never done it, like, oh, arena.
01:46:07.000 I'm like, I'm telling you, it's oddly intimate because everybody's facing everybody else.
01:46:12.000 We're all in this together.
01:46:13.000 It's not just a mass of people staring at a stage.
01:46:16.000 Right.
01:46:17.000 We're all wrapped up together.
01:46:18.000 Yes.
01:46:18.000 It's cooler.
01:46:19.000 It's cool.
01:46:20.000 It's a better vibe.
01:46:20.000 Yeah.
01:46:22.000 It feels better.
01:46:23.000 You would love this theater.
01:46:24.000 Yeah.
01:46:24.000 I'm sure.
01:46:25.000 It's a fucking rat.
01:46:26.000 I love that Phoenix one.
01:46:27.000 That one rules.
01:46:28.000 But do any show that you could do in the round?
01:46:31.000 It's like the first time I did it, I remember, I don't understand.
01:46:33.000 Where do I move?
01:46:34.000 I think the first one I did was when we met.
01:46:35.000 Because I was also.
01:46:35.000 Yeah.
01:46:36.000 It might have been my first one, too.
01:46:37.000 I was kind of like intimidated.
01:46:39.000 I was like, what the fuck?
01:46:41.000 And then somebody told me once, it might have been Louie told me that I think it was him that told me when I was doing the like going into arenas, he's like, your instinct will be to stay in the middle, but you should go further out to the edges.
01:46:56.000 Because when you're further out to the outside of the stage that's in the round, you're actually open to more people.
01:47:03.000 Does that make sense?
01:47:04.000 Yes.
01:47:04.000 Because if you're on this edge of the round stage, more people can see you over here.
01:47:10.000 Right.
01:47:10.000 And you're closer to them.
01:47:11.000 You're closer to them, too.
01:47:12.000 Yeah, it's more intimate.
01:47:13.000 If you're in the middle, it's like you're all standoffish.
01:47:15.000 You have so much, you can come closer to me.
01:47:16.000 Yeah.
01:47:17.000 Why are you all the way over there?
01:47:18.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:47:18.000 Yeah.
01:47:19.000 Walking around too is fun.
01:47:19.000 Yeah.
01:47:21.000 That to me is, I told somebody, is what I think makes my performance better, is that I'm a naturally kind of standstill guy.
01:47:29.000 Yeah.
01:47:30.000 But the round makes me move.
01:47:32.000 Even though it's subtle movement, that keeps you more engaged because there's a constant movement to it.
01:47:38.000 Even if it's slow.
01:47:39.000 It's fun.
01:47:40.000 It is a fun thing.
01:47:41.000 Yeah, it's fun.
01:47:42.000 And it is weird that so many of us get to do that now.
01:47:46.000 It's so bizarre.
01:47:47.000 It wasn't the case at all.
01:47:49.000 It's so bizarre.
01:47:50.000 I did some nutty ones with Dave.
01:47:52.000 We did the Tacoma Dome.
01:47:54.000 That was 25,000 people.
01:47:55.000 That was so funny.
01:47:57.000 So nuts.
01:47:58.000 It was so nuts.
01:47:59.000 It was so many people.
01:48:00.000 It's so many.
01:48:02.000 That's so many.
01:48:02.000 It's very strange.
01:48:03.000 I did a couple with you guys.
01:48:07.000 I did New Orleans with you guys.
01:48:08.000 Oh, that's right.
01:48:09.000 Yeah, that was fun.
01:48:10.000 And I think we did Nashville or something or Memphis together too.
01:48:13.000 Yeah, I think it was Nashville.
01:48:14.000 The most fun one, though, ever, I think this will always be in my memory, is when we did the like Vegas is back in the round.
01:48:26.000 At the MGM Arena.
01:48:26.000 Oh, yeah, that was fun.
01:48:28.000 Yeah, that was fun.
01:48:28.000 And I was unannounced.
01:48:30.000 Yeah.
01:48:31.000 And a couple other people were too.
01:48:32.000 I forget who was on that, but I remember the absolute like pandemonium of that place where I was like shaking because it was like things had been shut down and they're like, this show is back.
01:48:46.000 The shows are back.
01:48:47.000 And this is the show to open Vegas again.
01:48:50.000 I don't think we'll ever feel that again.
01:48:51.000 Not like that.
01:48:52.000 Hopefully not.
01:48:53.000 Because that means that the world went crazy again.
01:48:55.000 That's exactly right.
01:48:55.000 And it was like, you can't duplicate that.
01:48:58.000 You can't duplicate it.
01:48:59.000 It's almost like when you have an improv off-the-cuff line of something that just happened.
01:49:04.000 Like you can't manufacture that.
01:49:06.000 You said the thing because this happened.
01:49:08.000 Right.
01:49:09.000 And like the world had shut down.
01:49:10.000 Yeah.
01:49:11.000 And they're like, here's a stand-up show in the round, in the arena, Joe, Dave, and the crowd was just like, I mean, it was like a fever pitch.
01:49:19.000 There were so many people hanging out backstage.
01:49:19.000 It was so fun.
01:49:21.000 Remember that?
01:49:22.000 It was so many people.
01:49:22.000 Oh, my God.
01:49:24.000 I was like, I've never seen this many celebrities in our shows.
01:49:26.000 There was a room.
01:49:28.000 They were like, this is the red room.
01:49:30.000 And this was backstage.
01:49:32.000 And there was like 200 people in there.
01:49:33.000 Oh, so packed.
01:49:34.000 And I brought you in there because you didn't know about it either.
01:49:36.000 I was like, have you been in here?
01:49:37.000 And you're like, what the fuck is all this?
01:49:39.000 Because it's just a whole extra room.
01:49:40.000 A whole extra room of like just people hanging out.
01:49:43.000 Yeah.
01:49:43.000 A whole extra room of comics that I hadn't seen in years because everybody was kind of celebrating the fact that we could do shows again.
01:49:49.000 It was the best.
01:49:50.000 They all came out.
01:49:51.000 That was such a special show.
01:49:53.000 I mean, there was boxers there and rappers.
01:49:53.000 Yeah.
01:49:56.000 It was like people were out.
01:49:58.000 It's like there's something to do again.
01:50:00.000 It was like there was a feeling in the air.
01:50:03.000 It was so, and people, some people were still scared.
01:50:05.000 There's still people wearing masks.
01:50:07.000 Yeah.
01:50:08.000 It was July.
01:50:08.000 I remember that.
01:50:09.000 It was July.
01:50:10.000 Some people just didn't want to let it go.
01:50:12.000 They were still connected to this idea that we could all die at any moment.
01:50:15.000 Yeah.
01:50:16.000 That's true.
01:50:19.000 I still see those people.
01:50:20.000 Yeah, they're still in some places.
01:50:21.000 I had some people that got broken.
01:50:24.000 They got broken.
01:50:26.000 They got broken.
01:50:27.000 The stress of that whole thing.
01:50:28.000 It also kind of depends on who you're around too, right?
01:50:31.000 Oh, yeah.
01:50:31.000 Because, I mean, I think you could put me with certain people, and then I would have been even more apprehensive.
01:50:38.000 Well, that was the thing that I felt about coming here, like really quickly, that people here were not nearly as scared as people are in California.
01:50:45.000 The whole attitude of the government here was very different.
01:50:48.000 They were like, things should stay open.
01:50:49.000 I remember I went and met with the governor and had dinner with him.
01:50:53.000 And he was like, you know, we got to let people live their lives.
01:50:56.000 They need freedom.
01:50:57.000 Yeah.
01:50:58.000 Like, you should be able to make your own decisions doing this.
01:51:00.000 I was like, yeah, I agree.
01:51:01.000 And this is like before the vaccine.
01:51:03.000 Really?
01:51:04.000 And people had already started doing shows out here.
01:51:04.000 Yeah.
01:51:07.000 We started doing shows out here early.
01:51:09.000 We tested everybody.
01:51:10.000 Remember, we did those stub shows?
01:51:11.000 Oh, that's right.
01:51:12.000 Yeah.
01:51:14.000 Dave and I did these shows at Stubbs.
01:51:16.000 We did a whole series of shows.
01:51:17.000 Which is an outdoor venue.
01:51:18.000 Yeah.
01:51:18.000 And we tested the whole crowd.
01:51:20.000 So we tested these people for like an hour before the show.
01:51:25.000 Everybody queued up.
01:51:26.000 Everybody got tested.
01:51:27.000 And we only wound up removing like two different people that were positive.
01:51:31.000 Yeah.
01:51:31.000 That's it?
01:51:32.000 Yeah.
01:51:33.000 Most people knew that they weren't sick, you know?
01:51:36.000 And we weren't doing PCR, right?
01:51:38.000 Which is the one that really gets a lot of false positives.
01:51:41.000 They found out recently there was an estimate that PCR testing, the false positives, might have been as high as 86%.
01:51:49.000 86?
01:51:50.000 Yeah.
01:51:51.000 The guy who invented the PCR testing, Kerry Mullis, said it should never be used to detect diseases.
01:51:57.000 It's like, it's not what it's for.
01:51:59.000 And he said, if you ramp the cycles up high enough, you could find almost anything in people.
01:52:04.000 I did something once that's shameful.
01:52:07.000 I had to test for like a trip somewhere, and then I had to do it on a Zoom with somebody.
01:52:14.000 And it came out positive.
01:52:15.000 So I threw it out the window.
01:52:17.000 And then they were like, where is it?
01:52:18.000 I go, my kid just threw it out the window.
01:52:23.000 And they're like, what was it?
01:52:24.000 I was like, I don't remember.
01:52:25.000 I'll do it again.
01:52:26.000 And then I just waited a week.
01:52:32.000 I remember the second time I tested positive.
01:52:35.000 So I tested positive once.
01:52:36.000 That was the whole horse dewormer CNN thing.
01:52:39.000 And then the second time I tested positive, I didn't even know I had it.
01:52:42.000 I couldn't believe it was real.
01:52:44.000 I came in here sniffly.
01:52:46.000 I came in here straight from the gym.
01:52:48.000 And I said, I got the sniffles.
01:52:50.000 I said to Mercy, the nurse, I said, I go, must be COVID.
01:52:54.000 Just joking around.
01:52:55.000 And she goes, actually, you're positive.
01:52:57.000 I'm like, no fucking way.
01:52:59.000 Like, no way.
01:53:00.000 Because you felt fine.
01:53:02.000 So I got IV vitamin drip, NAD, the whole deal.
01:53:05.000 24 hours later, I was negative.
01:53:07.000 That NAD shit's amazing.
01:53:09.000 Amazing.
01:53:10.000 And I also, I'll say this, and this is, I'm telling you, I have, knock on wood, I have not gotten sick in a while.
01:53:17.000 Oh, yeah, you're healthy now.
01:53:18.000 I'm healthy.
01:53:19.000 That's how it works.
01:53:19.000 That's how it works.
01:53:21.000 But during the movie I did over the summer and during production on series first season one of my show, there were days.
01:53:31.000 Like, I remember the first day we were shooting Bad Thoughts Season 1, I was getting a cold.
01:53:37.000 And I did NAD, like 500 milligrams or whatever, like the high dose, three days in a row.
01:53:45.000 And I was no longer, and I had never experienced anything like that.
01:53:47.000 Because I was the type of person where like, I get a cold and I am fucked for like weeks.
01:53:53.000 And then the next time that I felt this, like, I'm like, you know, you feel, you know, you're like, oh, I'm getting sick.
01:54:00.000 It would, I did, I was like, I'm doing the NAD thing again.
01:54:02.000 Three days in a row, just jamming that shit into me, like high dosage, completely went away.
01:54:08.000 That's crazy.
01:54:09.000 It didn't dip into like, now you're really sick.
01:54:11.000 It just was like, I'm getting sick.
01:54:12.000 I'm not sick anymore.
01:54:13.000 Yeah.
01:54:14.000 That was part of my COVID routine.
01:54:16.000 The first time I had COVID, I did NAD along with IV vitamins.
01:54:20.000 I don't even think I mentioned NAD when I did that little video that went viral.
01:54:25.000 But that was, I recommend that to anybody whenever they get sick.
01:54:30.000 It's unbelievable.
01:54:30.000 High dose of vitamin C is amazing, too.
01:54:33.000 Amazing.
01:54:34.000 Can't believe it.
01:54:35.000 Yeah, high-dose vitamins intravenously when you're not feeling well is phenomenal because it gives your body all the weapons that it needs to fight off whatever the fuck it's dealing with.
01:54:44.000 I feel like doing it tomorrow.
01:54:45.000 You should do it tomorrow.
01:54:46.000 Yeah.
01:54:47.000 You should do it all the time.
01:54:47.000 You know what else you should start doing?
01:54:48.000 Like I told you, red light bed.
01:54:50.000 You've been on that for a minute.
01:54:50.000 I know.
01:54:51.000 Yeah, it's amazing.
01:54:53.000 It's incredible.
01:54:54.000 You said it helps your vision?
01:54:55.000 It helped my vision.
01:54:56.000 100%.
01:54:57.000 I don't even understand that.
01:54:58.000 Well, it's a lot of skin stuff.
01:55:00.000 Red light helps, it gets collagen or something.
01:55:03.000 Let's put that into our sponsor.
01:55:05.000 Perplexity.
01:55:06.000 What is the benefits that red light has on your vision?
01:55:10.000 Why does it work?
01:55:11.000 But it works 100%.
01:55:13.000 I can tell you for a fact.
01:55:14.000 There's two things that I've done.
01:55:16.000 One thing, I've taken a lot of supplements for eyesight.
01:55:20.000 I always talk about this company, Pure Encapsulations.
01:55:22.000 I have no affiliation with them.
01:55:24.000 I just buy their stuff.
01:55:25.000 They have a thing called macular support.
01:55:28.000 Yeah, I take that stuff.
01:55:29.000 So I take that stuff, and I've been very consistent with that.
01:55:32.000 It has a bunch of new.
01:55:33.000 I showed it to Huberman, and he went over the list and he was like, oh, this is all great stuff.
01:55:37.000 I take that, and I do red light multiple days a week.
01:55:41.000 And it took a while.
01:55:43.000 In the beginning, I thought it was actually making my eyesight worse.
01:55:47.000 Because your eyes are covered during it.
01:55:48.000 No, I keep them open.
01:55:49.000 Keep your eyes open.
01:55:50.000 Yeah, red light therapy using deep red wavelengths around 60, 670 NM.
01:55:50.000 Red light.
01:55:56.000 I don't know what they mean nanometers.
01:55:58.000 Shows promise in improving declining vision by boosting mitochondrial function in the retinal cells.
01:56:03.000 Studies indicate benefits, particularly for age-related vision loss.
01:56:06.000 That's me.
01:56:07.000 Macular degeneration and other eye conditions.
01:56:10.000 Morning exposure appears most effective with effects lasting up to a week.
01:56:15.000 So I do it, I try to do it three times a week.
01:56:17.000 How long do you do it for?
01:56:18.000 I do it 20 minutes.
01:56:19.000 It says short sessions, like three minutes weekly, can enhance color contrast vision by 17 to 20% adults over 34 with greater gains in older participants.
01:56:28.000 That's me.
01:56:28.000 I'm getting it.
01:56:29.000 It makes a big difference.
01:56:30.000 Therapy supports retinal health by reducing inflammation, improving visual acuity, and slowing proto-photoreceptor decline.
01:56:40.000 Emerging evidence also suggests help for dry eyes, myopia progression in children, and diabetic retinopathy.
01:56:48.000 It works.
01:56:48.000 It works.
01:56:49.000 I'm telling you, it works 100% with me.
01:56:51.000 I used to struggle reading the screen sometimes.
01:56:53.000 It would be kind of blurry.
01:56:54.000 I'd have to like, Jamie, make it bigger.
01:56:55.000 Now I can see things way better than I used to be.
01:56:58.000 When I said Jamie, make it bigger.
01:57:00.000 I used to say I used to.
01:57:01.000 I wear glasses all the time now.
01:57:03.000 I don't need them when I look at text messages anymore.
01:57:05.000 I don't need them when I read emails anymore.
01:57:07.000 And I don't need them on my computer anymore, which is a big one.
01:57:10.000 Because I always used it when I wrote.
01:57:10.000 That's a big one.
01:57:13.000 And then I realized the other day, like, oh my God, I'm writing and I don't have my glasses on.
01:57:16.000 Joey Diaz will be so happy if I do those fucking glasses.
01:57:21.000 You're wearing your glasses with me.
01:57:22.000 I called him up today.
01:57:23.000 I go, I'm doing a podcast with Security.
01:57:25.000 He goes, ah, he met Pepe LePupe over there in France, and now he's making croissants.
01:57:30.000 Who's this fucking guy with his glasses?
01:57:32.000 He's always on me for that.
01:57:32.000 Glasses.
01:57:34.000 Claiming.
01:57:34.000 I mean, as Joey Diaz.
01:57:36.000 It's not Pepe Le Pew.
01:57:38.000 His name is Gianbasta.
01:57:40.000 And it's Italian.
01:57:41.000 It's an Italian bakery.
01:57:42.000 Yes.
01:57:43.000 Well, it's a problem.
01:57:44.000 That chocolate croissant you gave me is a real problem.
01:57:44.000 It is a problem.
01:57:46.000 Tell you.
01:57:47.000 Buttery and flaky and perfect.
01:57:49.000 It's perfect, dude.
01:57:50.000 It's why I fell in love with you.
01:57:51.000 I love a little more chocolate in there.
01:57:53.000 I can tell them.
01:57:53.000 I can tell.
01:57:54.000 A little more chocolate.
01:57:55.000 Just a little.
01:57:56.000 Don't be stingy with the chocolate.
01:57:57.000 I fell in love with that chocolate croissant when I lived in L.A.
01:58:01.000 And you know, that guy was in my neighborhood.
01:58:03.000 Oh, that's how this all started.
01:58:04.000 That's a problem.
01:58:05.000 And I would walk down there, and sometimes I would buy like two dozen.
01:58:10.000 And then I would walk back to my house, and I would give away croissants to people walking down the street.
01:58:15.000 I'd be like, you got to try these.
01:58:16.000 Just regular people?
01:58:17.000 Regular people.
01:58:18.000 I go, I just got these croissants.
01:58:18.000 I didn't even know them.
01:58:20.000 What if they thought you were psycho?
01:58:21.000 I mean, I guess they didn't, but they would take them.
01:58:24.000 And I would, I mean, I didn't give them all away.
01:58:26.000 I would eat a lot of them too.
01:58:28.000 I stayed in touch with this guy, and I would, every once in a while, would go there and I would get some of their pastries and I would do like an Instagram video.
01:58:37.000 Like, hey, I'm at this place, and I would just say it.
01:58:41.000 And then I became friends with them.
01:58:42.000 And they go, Hey, you know, when you do that, they're like 100 people came today.
01:58:45.000 I was like, oh, that's cool.
01:58:46.000 It was just like a friend.
01:58:47.000 There was no business relationship.
01:58:48.000 I was doing it because I liked it.
01:58:50.000 We always stayed in touch.
01:58:51.000 And I moved here.
01:58:52.000 And I go, oh, when I'm in LA, I'm going to try to stop by and see you guys.
01:58:56.000 That kind of thing.
01:58:57.000 And I always be like, it would be awesome if you opened one in Austin.
01:58:57.000 And we stayed in touch.
01:59:01.000 That conversation continued.
01:59:03.000 And then eventually we talked, like, hey, what if we really did this?
01:59:07.000 And that conversation started like over a year ago.
01:59:09.000 And then our fixed location will open in March, but we have a pop-up right now.
01:59:14.000 I just don't know how you have the time for all this.
01:59:16.000 Well, I'm not, here's the thing.
01:59:18.000 I'm not the one, like, I don't bake.
01:59:21.000 Right.
01:59:21.000 You know, I'm a business partner in this, and I market it in that I promote it.
01:59:27.000 But the easiest thing is to market something that's fantastic.
01:59:32.000 And I actually thought about the fact that I was like, for me, this is like, like, people trust your opinion on one of the reasons I think that Onit was successful with you is that they're like, this guy knows workouts.
01:59:32.000 Right.
01:59:47.000 He knows vitamins.
01:59:48.000 He knows like they, you have credibility in that.
01:59:51.000 You know what I mean?
01:59:52.000 Like having credibility in something is really important.
01:59:55.000 For me, it's like, if there's one thing I completely trust myself on, is if I'm like, this tastes good, I don't doubt it.
02:00:02.000 I'm like, this is good.
02:00:03.000 I know what it's good.
02:00:04.000 I've eaten at the best restaurants all over the world.
02:00:08.000 And this is like my favorite, one of my favorite things has always been croissants and things like this.
02:00:13.000 So when I had his and I knew they were amazing, it was like, there's no like, I'm selling it.
02:00:18.000 I'm not like being like, oh, you should, you know, I'm not, I'm making up, this shit's amazing.
02:00:22.000 So all I do is go, like, it's open.
02:00:24.000 It's fucking amazing.
02:00:26.000 And we're selling, we've sold out every day.
02:00:28.000 That's incredible.
02:00:28.000 We've never not sold out.
02:00:30.000 Well, once you eat one of them, I get it.
02:00:31.000 Yeah, it's fucking amazing.
02:00:32.000 And he's always coming up with, like, at first, I was like, oh, we're opening a croissant place.
02:00:37.000 But he's doing like, you know, like the homemade focaccia bread, Italian sandwiches.
02:00:43.000 He does homemade pizza.
02:00:44.000 It's all every day.
02:00:46.000 And he's whatever like inspires him, he makes that.
02:00:49.000 It's all, he's amazing.
02:00:50.000 So it's like the easiest thing to be like, yeah, this is my bakery.
02:00:54.000 Food.
02:00:54.000 Yeah, I fucking love it.
02:00:56.000 Such a drug.
02:00:57.000 I've thought about doing that with an Italian deli.
02:00:59.000 Yeah.
02:01:00.000 I've talked to Giovanni very briefly.
02:01:02.000 The guy in the USA deli, yeah.
02:01:04.000 That place?
02:01:05.000 Opening up one of those out here.
02:01:06.000 How incredible would that be?
02:01:08.000 Incredible.
02:01:08.000 Those sandwiches, me and Joe DeRosa, we send each other sandwiches.
02:01:11.000 Yeah.
02:01:12.000 Joe has his sandwich place.
02:01:13.000 His sandwich place is great.
02:01:14.000 Joey Rose's is fucking great.
02:01:14.000 Yeah.
02:01:16.000 I sent him this place in Toronto.
02:01:20.000 God, what is it called?
02:01:21.000 Something crudeau?
02:01:22.000 Hold on a second.
02:01:23.000 I'll find it.
02:01:25.000 Oh, what happened to?
02:01:26.000 Oh, the iPhone made everything different.
02:01:30.000 Where'd you put it on there?
02:01:30.000 There you go.
02:01:31.000 Is that it?
02:01:32.000 Search in the bottom.
02:01:32.000 Crude pizza.
02:01:33.000 That's it.
02:01:34.000 Crude.
02:01:35.000 It's in Toronto.
02:01:36.000 The sandwiches.
02:01:37.000 Go to their Instagram.
02:01:38.000 If you can go, where's his crudo pizza up there?
02:01:41.000 That's their Instagram.
02:01:42.000 Go down to their Instagram and find some of their fucking sandwiches, bro.
02:01:46.000 Look at these fucking sandwiches.
02:01:48.000 Oh, yeah.
02:01:49.000 Bro.
02:01:49.000 Look at these sandwiches, bro.
02:01:51.000 With their homemade bread.
02:01:52.000 Look at these are insane.
02:01:54.000 And the bread's got a nice little char on it.
02:01:56.000 And the bread comes out piping hot from the oven and they make the sandwich on this piping hot bread.
02:02:02.000 Yeah.
02:02:02.000 Show me one of them videos where they're pulling the sandwiches out and making them because there's a few where you get to see how hot the bread is.
02:02:11.000 Scroll down a little bit.
02:02:13.000 Oh, no, stop, stop, stop, stop.
02:02:14.000 Go up.
02:02:14.000 No, no, no.
02:02:16.000 Oh, look at that, Tommy.
02:02:18.000 Look at it.
02:02:18.000 No, no, no, you missed it.
02:02:20.000 Watch this when he cuts it open.
02:02:21.000 Oh, and this, yeah.
02:02:22.000 Oh, look at that.
02:02:24.000 Tamortadella.
02:02:26.000 Look at this.
02:02:27.000 Jesus.
02:02:28.000 Oh, my God.
02:02:29.000 Look how insane that is.
02:02:31.000 This is my drug.
02:02:32.000 Like, this is, if I have a problem with food, it's this.
02:02:35.000 Yeah.
02:02:35.000 It's Italian cold-cut sandwiches and pasta.
02:02:38.000 Yeah.
02:02:39.000 Those are the problems.
02:02:40.000 I have a real problem with not eating that.
02:02:42.000 There's olive oil on it.
02:02:43.000 Look how he seals it up.
02:02:45.000 Look at this.
02:02:46.000 Oh, look how it comes out of the oven, bro.
02:02:48.000 Are you kidding me?
02:02:48.000 You know what my guy started making now?
02:02:50.000 What?
02:02:50.000 Like, he's just on a whim.
02:02:51.000 He's like, I made lasagna today.
02:02:52.000 Oh, no.
02:02:53.000 So he's doing, and then he's doing like different versions of it.
02:02:56.000 Did one with like brisket in it, like just crazy things.
02:02:59.000 And it just goes.
02:03:01.000 Yeah, it's called, by the way, it's called Chicho Bomba, which is what you call it.
02:03:01.000 Of course.
02:03:04.000 That's the name of it?
02:03:05.000 Yeah, it's the name of the bakery.
02:03:06.000 It's called Chicho Bomba, which is what you call a little fat ass kid in Italy.
02:03:11.000 Because bombas like explode.
02:03:13.000 So like when it gets a little fat ass.
02:03:14.000 That's funny.
02:03:15.000 It's called a fat ass.
02:03:16.000 Yeah, it's called a little fat ass.
02:03:17.000 Little fat ass kid.
02:03:18.000 Yeah.
02:03:19.000 That's hilarious.
02:03:20.000 Great idea, dude.
02:03:21.000 Yeah, he's awesome.
02:03:22.000 Him and Marlow.
02:03:24.000 It's hard staying thin, isn't it?
02:03:26.000 Especially now you're in the 180s.
02:03:29.000 He could let it go.
02:03:30.000 I could let it go.
02:03:30.000 He could let it go.
02:03:31.000 Oh, yeah, look at you.
02:03:32.000 They got excited about letting it go.
02:03:32.000 Look at you.
02:03:34.000 Yeah, let it go.
02:03:35.000 I own a bakery.
02:03:36.000 Yeah, just fucking not text your trainer back.
02:03:38.000 Fuck you.
02:03:39.000 Fuck you.
02:03:40.000 And when I stop by there, too, you know, it's like I have access to all of this.
02:03:44.000 Yeah, you could eat free.
02:03:45.000 Oh, yeah.
02:03:46.000 You can do whatever you want.
02:03:47.000 You can have them make you things.
02:03:48.000 I give most.
02:03:49.000 I take a bite of things and I'm like, that's delicious.
02:03:52.000 And then I stop myself.
02:03:53.000 I'll let myself have a full thing, but not every day, dude.
02:03:57.000 Not even every few days, like once a week, maybe.
02:04:00.000 When I used to come home from the store, two things were a problem.
02:04:03.000 One of them was Jerry's Famous Deli.
02:04:05.000 I would go to, remember Jerry's Famous Deli?
02:04:07.000 They're gone now.
02:04:08.000 Isn't that amazing?
02:04:10.000 Jerry's deli's gone?
02:04:11.000 Jerry's deli's gone.
02:04:12.000 There was one in Woodland Hills, that's gone.
02:04:14.000 That was the one I used to go to all the time.
02:04:16.000 I think they're all gone now.
02:04:18.000 I don't know if any of them still exist.
02:04:20.000 Hopefully one still exists.
02:04:22.000 Jerry's Famous Deli was fucking great.
02:04:23.000 They had the best chicken noodle soup, man.
02:04:25.000 It ruled.
02:04:26.000 And they had pastrami Rubens.
02:04:27.000 Oh, pastrami Rubens with steak fries.
02:04:30.000 They were so good.
02:04:31.000 And if I was hungry coming home from the store, that would be the spot.
02:04:33.000 The other spot that was a real problem was Krispy Kreme motherfucking donuts.
02:04:39.000 I would drive by and I'd see that hot sign on.
02:04:42.000 Cheeseburgers, too, are a problem.
02:04:44.000 In-and-outs problem.
02:04:46.000 That's a problem.
02:04:46.000 That's a problem.
02:04:47.000 There was that one in West Hollywood that I used to love.
02:04:49.000 I forget the name of that place.
02:04:51.000 It was right near where I was working in post-production.
02:04:54.000 The burgers were fucking unbelievable.
02:04:56.000 Another problem was canters.
02:04:58.000 Canters.
02:04:59.000 I think that place is still open.
02:04:59.000 Yeah, Canter's deli.
02:05:00.000 That was a good one.
02:05:01.000 24 hours a day.
02:05:02.000 That was post-show fun.
02:05:04.000 Always.
02:05:04.000 Yeah.
02:05:04.000 Great post-show fun.
02:05:05.000 I told you this before, because you know the power of delusion is strong.
02:05:09.000 Is that when I would tour with you, this is like, I would say like 2009, 10, Delta Terminal used to be Terminal 5 at LAX.
02:05:20.000 Sometimes we would get back and we would land, because it would land in the morning, right?
02:05:25.000 We did the show the night before.
02:05:27.000 They had like a little deli bakery coffee place that had really good chocolate croissants.
02:05:34.000 Oh, I remember that place.
02:05:35.000 Yeah.
02:05:35.000 Yeah.
02:05:35.000 And sometimes we'd be walking by and you'd get one.
02:05:38.000 I was like, well, Joe got one.
02:05:39.000 I should get one.
02:05:40.000 Like, he's in shape.
02:05:41.000 I'm in shape.
02:05:42.000 This isn't bad.
02:05:43.000 Like, I just tell myself, like, you can eat this.
02:05:46.000 Because you'd love those.
02:05:47.000 I remember those.
02:05:48.000 Chocolate croissants rule.
02:05:49.000 That's why when you brought this one, I was like, oh, that's a problem.
02:05:51.000 It's a problem.
02:05:53.000 But they weren't as good as that.
02:05:54.000 No, fuck no.
02:05:55.000 The ones at LAX were pretty good.
02:05:56.000 You're okay.
02:05:57.000 This is like a, it's not, no shit.
02:05:59.000 It's like a three-day process.
02:06:00.000 That's how long it takes for them to make a bachelor's.
02:06:03.000 Yeah.
02:06:04.000 Yeah.
02:06:04.000 Like proofing the bread and it stays in this cabinet and they pull.
02:06:07.000 I mean, it's a whole process.
02:06:09.000 And it's, he has a, he makes like sfogliatella, which is like, it's.
02:06:12.000 Oh, okay, he said it that way.
02:06:13.000 Oh, and bombologone.
02:06:15.000 You know, like, just like incredible pastries, man.
02:06:18.000 That, like, when you see them, you're just like, don't get fat.
02:06:22.000 Bro, it's so easy to get fat.
02:06:24.000 Getting fat's a giant problem.
02:06:25.000 Older you get, you're just like, this could be real easy.
02:06:28.000 Especially if you got obligations, you got things to do, and you're tired, you're working.
02:06:34.000 I need structure, dude.
02:06:35.000 That's what I've learned.
02:06:36.000 I get it.
02:06:36.000 I need structure.
02:06:37.000 I need peace and quiet.
02:06:39.000 So I like to work out by myself.
02:06:41.000 Yeah.
02:06:41.000 Yeah.
02:06:42.000 I don't, I mean, I like working out with comics sometimes.
02:06:44.000 We do those comic workouts here.
02:06:46.000 Those are really fun.
02:06:47.000 But for me, like my time working out when I'm like suffering by myself, I need that.
02:06:54.000 Yeah.
02:06:54.000 I need by myself.
02:06:55.000 I don't want anybody talking to me about what they saw in the news and just asking me questions.
02:06:59.000 Zone out.
02:07:00.000 You know, what's JD Vance like?
02:07:02.000 No, Yeah.
02:07:05.000 I'm here to fucking get after it.
02:07:08.000 I just, my problem is that I have demons.
02:07:08.000 Yeah.
02:07:11.000 One of my problems is when I get, and I know this from Pat, you just realize you have patterns.
02:07:18.000 Is that when I get to like a good place and relax?
02:07:24.000 Yeah.
02:07:24.000 And I do it when people are like, you look good.
02:07:27.000 And then I go, oh, I'm done.
02:07:27.000 Yeah.
02:07:30.000 You know, that's that's been my pattern.
02:07:32.000 Yeah.
02:07:33.000 So this time I've just been like, do not accept that thought.
02:07:37.000 Yeah.
02:07:38.000 You know?
02:07:39.000 Yeah, you can't.
02:07:41.000 There's no end.
02:07:42.000 There's no end.
02:07:43.000 Finish line.
02:07:43.000 Yeah.
02:07:44.000 Doesn't exist.
02:07:46.000 Every day is a new, unique little battle with your inner bitch.
02:07:50.000 It's really the truth.
02:07:51.000 It is the truth.
02:07:52.000 That's what it is.
02:07:53.000 Every day, you wake up, you go to war with your inner bitch.
02:07:56.000 That's why it's good to beat it early.
02:07:58.000 Beat that fucker down early.
02:07:59.000 Get in the cold water.
02:08:00.000 Freeze your fucking dick off.
02:08:02.000 Get that fucking workout here.
02:08:04.000 Getting this on afterwards.
02:08:06.000 And then you get like, oh, I'm good today.
02:08:09.000 Today.
02:08:10.000 Today.
02:08:10.000 But the food is the bigger challenge for me.
02:08:12.000 Like, I won't say that workouts aren't hard.
02:08:15.000 They're hard.
02:08:16.000 And I like it.
02:08:17.000 I like the challenge.
02:08:19.000 Staying on top of how to eat is the bigger challenge.
02:08:22.000 Well, there's a problem too with all these new medical advancements.
02:08:26.000 And one of them is there's a new peptide that they're showing is essentially like exercise in an injection.
02:08:35.000 Is that sloop?
02:08:36.000 I don't know what it is.
02:08:37.000 I read some article about it like quite a while ago.
02:08:40.000 And I sent it to Brigham.
02:08:42.000 I go, what is this?
02:08:42.000 And he's like, dude, there's so much stuff on the horizon, so much groundbreaking stuff.
02:08:46.000 But you're basically going to be able to get the benefits of exercise in a peptide.
02:08:50.000 So it'll trick your body to think you exercise.
02:08:52.000 I mean, sloop does that.
02:08:53.000 Is that what it is?
02:08:54.000 That's one of the ones that does it.
02:08:55.000 It's in a pill form, right?
02:08:56.000 It's called sloop.
02:08:56.000 I haven't heard of that.
02:08:57.000 Yeah.
02:08:58.000 Yeah.
02:08:58.000 Do you taken that?
02:08:59.000 I have taken it.
02:09:00.000 Yeah.
02:09:00.000 I don't have anything to do for you.
02:09:01.000 You got some on you?
02:09:03.000 Listen, I'm like a crack addict.
02:09:05.000 If you tell me something will be good, I'll be like, cool.
02:09:07.000 I'll inject like 40 things into myself.
02:09:09.000 Yeah.
02:09:10.000 What does this sloop do?
02:09:11.000 Well, they tested it on mice and found that by giving it to mice, they decreased their body fat and increased muscle, lean mass.
02:09:22.000 Doing nothing.
02:09:22.000 Doing nothing.
02:09:23.000 Wow.
02:09:24.000 And so then they have started to, that's it right there.
02:09:27.000 Sloop 332.
02:09:28.000 Yeah.
02:09:28.000 Okay.
02:09:29.000 In obese mouse models, sloop 332 reduced fat gain by up to tenfold and compared to controls, promoted 12% body weight loss and enhanced metabolic function without altering appetite or activity levels.
02:09:42.000 Yeah.
02:09:42.000 Yeah.
02:09:43.000 It's exercise.
02:09:44.000 It's exercise, dude.
02:09:45.000 Exercise in a peptide.
02:09:46.000 And you took it in a pill?
02:09:47.000 Yeah.
02:09:48.000 And so what did it feel like when you took it?
02:09:49.000 Nothing.
02:09:50.000 Nothing.
02:09:50.000 I felt nothing.
02:09:51.000 I'm getting that shit tomorrow.
02:09:52.000 Yeah.
02:09:53.000 I'm on it.
02:09:54.000 Let's go.
02:09:55.000 Let's go.
02:09:55.000 What happened to your pecker?
02:09:56.000 Did it get excited?
02:09:57.000 Yeah.
02:09:57.000 Hell yeah.
02:09:58.000 24-7.
02:09:59.000 That's what these goddamn things do.
02:10:01.000 And you can just buy that stuff?
02:10:04.000 Or is that a prescription thing?
02:10:05.000 I don't think it's a prescription.
02:10:06.000 No, you can just buy it.
02:10:07.000 But I think you just have to like go to a compound pharmacy or something.
02:10:10.000 That kind of place.
02:10:11.000 Yeah, they're trying to shut those places down.
02:10:13.000 Are they?
02:10:13.000 FDA?
02:10:14.000 They want to own all that stuff.
02:10:15.000 There you go.
02:10:15.000 There it is.
02:10:16.000 Bam.
02:10:16.000 Amazon.
02:10:17.000 It's all over Amazon.
02:10:18.000 All over Amazon.
02:10:19.000 I don't know.
02:10:19.000 Good or not?
02:10:20.000 Just check your own sources.
02:10:22.000 One of the things that I've read about Amazon is that there's a lot of fake supplements on Amazon.
02:10:28.000 Yeah.
02:10:28.000 Are there?
02:10:29.000 Because how does that work?
02:10:30.000 How are they even getting up on Amazon?
02:10:32.000 I think they're, well, that's a whole different thing, but they're just copying the labels and stuff, making it look like it.
02:10:38.000 I've heard that's the problem with pure encapsulations.
02:10:40.000 I started buying their stuff from their website because I read that.
02:10:44.000 Because I read that a high percentage was fraud.
02:10:48.000 I don't know if you've ever researched this, but apparently when I was in Abu Dhabi, they were like, they have what's considered some of like the cleanest vitamins on, like, people go there just to get vitamins in the UAE.
02:11:02.000 Really?
02:11:03.000 Yeah, like the really high-level vitamins for some reason.
02:11:06.000 And I don't know what the thought is on that, but like a lot of people that travel in that region go to UAE to get their vitamins.
02:11:12.000 That's interesting.
02:11:13.000 I don't know if their standard is just higher.
02:11:16.000 Well, they have so much money.
02:11:18.000 And they also, you know, Sheikh Tok Noon is a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt.
02:11:22.000 Like a legit one.
02:11:23.000 Bad motherfucker.
02:11:24.000 Yeah.
02:11:24.000 Henzo Gracie black belt.
02:11:26.000 And he's the one that created this Abu Dhabi Combat Club, the championship.
02:11:31.000 He's also incredibly fit.
02:11:33.000 Like his cardio is out.
02:11:34.000 I was talking to someone.
02:11:35.000 No, he's a legit black belt.
02:11:37.000 He's a Henzo Gracie black belt.
02:11:38.000 It's like, you know, there's levels of black belts out there where you heard about a guy got a black belt from this guy.
02:11:44.000 I never heard of that guy.
02:11:45.000 I don't know who that guy is, but I'm sure it was good.
02:11:47.000 And then you hear about someone got a black belt from Henzo.
02:11:50.000 Like Guy Richie is a Henzo Gracie black belt.
02:11:50.000 You're like, oh.
02:11:53.000 Really?
02:11:53.000 Yeah.
02:11:53.000 Guy Richie is super legit, man.
02:11:55.000 I know guys have rolled with him.
02:11:56.000 They're like, dude, he's legit.
02:11:58.000 Yeah.
02:11:58.000 Which is, it's like a Jake Paul thing.
02:12:00.000 Like, you don't think, ah, fucking Jake Paul.
02:12:02.000 You can't fight.
02:12:03.000 What's his name?
02:12:03.000 Isn't the guy from Married with Children?
02:12:06.000 Ed O'Neal.
02:12:07.000 Legit Gracie Black Belt.
02:12:08.000 Yeah.
02:12:09.000 He got his black belt from Hori, I think Horian or at least that school.
02:12:15.000 He got it from Gracie Torrance.
02:12:17.000 That was a surprise one to me.
02:12:18.000 I was like, really?
02:12:19.000 Oh, he's legit too.
02:12:20.000 Yeah.
02:12:20.000 I sat next to him once on a plane randomly, and we spent the entire flight just talking about jiu-jitsu.
02:12:26.000 He was so excited.
02:12:27.000 Oh, that's cool.
02:12:28.000 There he is.
02:12:29.000 Yes.
02:12:30.000 2007.
02:12:31.000 Yeah, Hori and Gracie.
02:12:32.000 I was right.
02:12:33.000 Two decades of training under Hori and Gracie.
02:12:35.000 Started out as another.
02:12:36.000 42.
02:12:36.000 Wow.
02:12:37.000 That's another very legit black belt.
02:12:39.000 You get a black belt from Horian, like you have a real black belt.
02:12:42.000 But he's a big guy, man.
02:12:43.000 He was a football player back in the day.
02:12:45.000 Wow.
02:12:46.000 Yeah.
02:12:47.000 That's awesome, man.
02:12:48.000 Yeah, he's legit.
02:12:49.000 So we were just, like I said, we were just randomly on a plane.
02:12:52.000 And we just started talking about jiu-jitsu.
02:12:54.000 We were both like little kids.
02:12:56.000 Really?
02:12:56.000 Yeah.
02:12:56.000 That's cool.
02:12:57.000 And I ran into him another time randomly in Hawaii in the ocean.
02:13:01.000 I was in the ocean.
02:13:02.000 I ran into him.
02:13:03.000 That's cool.
02:13:04.000 I was like, hey, what are you doing, man?
02:13:06.000 He's great.
02:13:07.000 I think he's a very nice guy.
02:13:09.000 Very nice guy, too.
02:13:10.000 Easy guy to talk to.
02:13:11.000 Like a regular person.
02:13:13.000 You know, there's certain actors, I feel like we have to get through this little wall of, are you cool?
02:13:19.000 Yes.
02:13:20.000 Is this okay to talk to you?
02:13:21.000 Are you going to be mean to me?
02:13:23.000 Like, is this?
02:13:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:13:25.000 It's like a thing.
02:13:26.000 And they think they get weird around comics, too, because they want to wind up in your act.
02:13:29.000 I got so lucky doing that movie over the summer in that I had like the best actors, like as far as like just fun, awesome people.
02:13:39.000 You know what I mean?
02:13:39.000 Oh, that's nice.
02:13:40.000 Did you know they were fun before you worked with them?
02:13:42.000 No.
02:13:42.000 And you know what was funny is that they're regular act, like they go from like set to set to set.
02:13:46.000 Right.
02:13:47.000 And they kept telling me, they were like, you know, this is like really special what's happening here.
02:13:51.000 They're like, this is awesome.
02:13:51.000 And I'd be like, what do you mean?
02:13:52.000 Everyone's having the best time every day.
02:13:54.000 Everyone's hanging out.
02:13:55.000 We're all going to dinner together.
02:13:56.000 We're hanging out on weekends.
02:13:58.000 Everyone likes each other.
02:13:59.000 It was like the best experience.
02:14:00.000 I think actors sometimes are so competitive with each other.
02:14:03.000 Yeah.
02:14:03.000 We didn't, none of that.
02:14:05.000 People were just, and when you do have a cool vibe, like we had, everyone's just trying to make every scene better.
02:14:12.000 Right.
02:14:13.000 You know, and like, you want the guy to be, like, I want him to be super funny in this because it's going to be funny in the movie.
02:14:18.000 Well, it's like stereotypes get created because of the worst people in whatever category you're talking about.
02:14:25.000 And if you're talking about actors, it's not all of them.
02:14:27.000 Some of them are really cool.
02:14:28.000 Yeah, of course.
02:14:29.000 Like Chris Pratt, I've hung out with that guy a bunch of times.
02:14:32.000 He's really cool.
02:14:33.000 Easy to hang out with.
02:14:33.000 Yeah.
02:14:35.000 Giant movie star.
02:14:36.000 But like so normal.
02:14:37.000 Right.
02:14:38.000 I went elk hunting with that guy.
02:14:39.000 Really?
02:14:40.000 Yes.
02:14:41.000 Super cool guy to everybody.
02:14:43.000 Like easy to talk to.
02:14:44.000 We're eating dinner together, all hanging out with guys.
02:14:46.000 Fucking so normal.
02:14:48.000 It's rare.
02:14:48.000 Just happens to be a famous actor.
02:14:50.000 Yeah.
02:14:51.000 So normal.
02:14:52.000 But there's guys like that that you meet him and you go, oh, okay.
02:14:55.000 Like Woody Harrelson, the fucking nicest guy man.
02:14:58.000 So easy to hang.
02:14:58.000 Woody seems awesome.
02:14:59.000 You can't get a hold of him.
02:15:00.000 He's got no phone.
02:15:02.000 He's got no email.
02:15:03.000 You had, I'm just a huge fan, but I saw a clip of you had Billy Bob Thornton on.
02:15:07.000 Oh, he's the best.
02:15:08.000 Dude, I can watch that guy do fucking anything.
02:15:11.000 The best to talk to, too.
02:15:12.000 Like, so easy to talk to.
02:15:14.000 And the other one, I think you had him on, too, but I always see this guy in interviews.
02:15:19.000 And it's always like, I end up sharing it with everybody, is Ethan Hawk.
02:15:22.000 Ethan Hawk's great.
02:15:24.000 I mean, his wisdom and like his philosophy on art and on life.
02:15:30.000 I'm like, this guy's like a messiah.
02:15:32.000 He's just like so fascinating to listen to.
02:15:35.000 Well, he's a real artist.
02:15:36.000 Yeah.
02:15:37.000 Really loves.
02:15:38.000 Like, I asked him this question because I've always wanted to know, like, is this the same thing as being in the zone and other things?
02:15:45.000 Like, what happens when you're doing a scene?
02:15:48.000 Why is it so believable?
02:15:50.000 I know you're Ethan Hawk.
02:15:52.000 I know that's Denzel Washington.
02:15:53.000 I know that you guys are acting, but yet I'm in.
02:15:56.000 I'm in.
02:15:56.000 Yeah.
02:15:57.000 Like, what is that?
02:15:58.000 Yeah.
02:15:59.000 And he talked about that.
02:16:01.000 It is like what it is with stand-up.
02:16:03.000 It's like a hypnosis.
02:16:04.000 It's like they're hypnotizing.
02:16:06.000 They're so locked in and they believe so much what they're saying that you believe it too.
02:16:10.000 Right.
02:16:11.000 It's truth.
02:16:12.000 It's that the scene reads as true.
02:16:16.000 You're not making, you know, there's times when you're watching something and you're like, I don't buy that.
02:16:21.000 And that's why you step out.
02:16:22.000 Right.
02:16:23.000 You step out because you're like, that's not.
02:16:24.000 It's performative.
02:16:25.000 Yeah.
02:16:25.000 Yeah.
02:16:26.000 You realize that someone is performing rather than being like really locked into it, whatever it is.
02:16:30.000 Somebody said one time, and I totally agree.
02:16:32.000 It's like one of the reasons why we revere Denzel so much is like every time he's on screen, you believe every choice that he makes.
02:16:41.000 Yes.
02:16:42.000 You know, you're just like, I believe this.
02:16:44.000 Yeah, there's only a few people like that.
02:16:46.000 You know, Claire Daines is definitely one of them.
02:16:48.000 She's fantastic.
02:16:49.000 So good, dude.
02:16:50.000 I mean, I don't want to give away any parts of it, but there's this one part where she finds something out and her fucking whole face starts shaking.
02:16:55.000 Yeah.
02:16:56.000 I was like, how are you even doing that?
02:16:57.000 Yeah.
02:16:58.000 She starts breathing heavy.
02:17:00.000 Nothing freaks me out more than someone that finds out something crazy and doesn't have like a physical reaction to it.
02:17:06.000 Because anybody that's ever had anything crazy happen to them, your heart starts racing.
02:17:11.000 You can't breathe.
02:17:12.000 And some people just don't nail that.
02:17:15.000 But she nailed it so hard.
02:17:17.000 I felt like she really believed it.
02:17:19.000 Yeah.
02:17:19.000 You know, and I believe, I'm like, oh my God.
02:17:21.000 Yeah, you start freaking out too.
02:17:23.000 That scene was so good that as I was watching, I was like, damn, she's good.
02:17:27.000 That's why I was thinking during the scene, I was like, damn, she's good.
02:17:29.000 You have to call me when you finish this.
02:17:31.000 I will.
02:17:33.000 It's so good.
02:17:34.000 She ruled in Homeland, too.
02:17:35.000 She was great in that, too.
02:17:37.000 Yeah.
02:17:37.000 She's really a tremendous actress.
02:17:39.000 Do you ever see the conversation she had?
02:17:43.000 She had a conversation with fucking, what's his name?
02:17:46.000 The vaccine dancer guy, Colbert.
02:17:48.000 And like, she was talking about the CIA being involved in all sorts of different things.
02:17:54.000 And see if you can find it because he like changes the subject immediately.
02:17:58.000 Really?
02:18:00.000 Yeah, because she's like saying wild shit about the CIA.
02:18:03.000 Well, the CIA being involved in, I forget exactly the context of what she was saying.
02:18:09.000 Something, here it is.
02:18:10.000 Spike camp for us producers and writers.
02:18:14.000 Really?
02:18:15.000 Yeah.
02:18:15.000 Is it like, yeah, so we park ourselves in a club in Georgetown and talk to like real spooks and you know people in the intelligence community and the State Department and journalists and people who really what do they tell you?
02:18:30.000 That like what's the most surprising thing that they've told you about their jobs or something you wouldn't need to know for?
02:18:34.000 Well, every year it's different.
02:18:36.000 Right, we've been at it for a while and and the climate has been has changed, but this year it was all about, you know, the distrust between the administration and and the intelligence world and um, and the intelligence community was suddenly kind of allying itself with journalists, which usually they're live shooting.
02:18:53.000 This episode, how long you start doing this show like the intelligence community aligns itself with journalists to try to get rid of the president.
02:19:03.000 I had one time this is not the same thing, but I had a I know somebody who was very high up, i'll just say, in the intelligence community and is older now and I have a relationship with them and I was talking.
02:19:18.000 Sometimes we would talk through it was through you know, my parents that that knew these people and I was.
02:19:24.000 I would love to talk to this person because they were so not just well-informed intelligent, like fun to have a conversation with.
02:19:30.000 And I was on the phone with them and as I asked the question they go not on the phone.
02:19:36.000 And I and I I kind of was like repeating myself, I go, they go not on the phone.
02:19:40.000 I was like oh, like it's just.
02:19:42.000 It was one of those moments where I felt I was like oh okay, I was like yeah, i'll see you later.
02:19:46.000 Sorry, I got so scared like I felt like I violated.
02:19:50.000 I'm sure every phone call they make is being recorded.
02:19:53.000 Yeah yeah, especially if you have inside information about something very important.
02:19:57.000 You're supposed to stay secret about it.
02:19:59.000 Yeah, and you start blabbing.
02:20:00.000 That's hanging out in Scottsdale doing blow.
02:20:03.000 Yeah, talking about what's, new in Syria oh yeah yeah, you wind up getting whacked by some crazy person that kills himself, car accident or something.
02:20:11.000 Yeah, something happens.
02:20:12.000 Yeah, you know about this Mit fusion guy that got assassinated.
02:20:16.000 Supposedly the same guy who assassinated the Mit fusion guy also went to Brown University and shot people at Brown and then killed himself.
02:20:26.000 Really yeah, and a lot of people are like what?
02:20:29.000 This guy was working on?
02:20:30.000 Groundbreaking energy.
02:20:32.000 He was working on fusion at MIT and he was also talking about the poles, the earth's poles shifting, and that this is a natural process that happens, that we have to do to keep our magnetosphere that protects us from the fucking rays of space.
02:20:49.000 What is our world, dude?
02:20:50.000 What is happening?
02:20:51.000 There's a lot of people that get killed because they are inventing things that are going to disrupt industries.
02:20:56.000 That's what I believe and this is why we scroll tick six hours on tick tock, just like I don't want to.
02:21:01.000 Yeah, you don't want to know, you don't want certain things you don't want to know.
02:21:04.000 And Kurt Metzger texts me all of them, really texts me, all of them, everything that I don't want to know, that it shows up.
02:21:11.000 I'm like fuck, or Dylan Tim Dylan texts me all and I text it to them too if I find something out, because there's just so much nutty in the world where you're like what is going on, like people getting whacked and oh Yeah, it can overwhelm you.
02:21:30.000 It can overwhelm you.
02:21:31.000 And I know so many people that are like legitimately mentally ill because they dwell on that stuff all day long.
02:21:31.000 Yeah.
02:21:37.000 Which is why we need the escape.
02:21:38.000 Yeah.
02:21:39.000 Yeah.
02:21:39.000 You need something.
02:21:40.000 And you also should limit your amount of time that you're exposed to all that psychotic behavior because it starts shaping the way you view people.
02:21:50.000 If you interact with people more on social media than you do in real life, it can really fuck your head up.
02:21:55.000 So many people do that.
02:21:56.000 A lot of people.
02:21:57.000 A lot of people do that.
02:21:58.000 Yeah.
02:21:59.000 Especially, and that was one of the real problems during COVID, too.
02:22:01.000 So people were isolated.
02:22:03.000 And that was the only way they were interacting with each other.
02:22:05.000 The fucked up thing is you realize how much those people end up losing that connection with other, like, real people.
02:22:14.000 They think that this is real life.
02:22:16.000 This is the real world.
02:22:18.000 Yeah.
02:22:18.000 Yeah.
02:22:19.000 They live in the comment section.
02:22:21.000 It's crazy.
02:22:22.000 It's just such a like, it's like eating food that has no nutrients in it and your body's just freaking out.
02:22:29.000 Like, where the fuck are the vitamins?
02:22:31.000 Yeah.
02:22:31.000 There's no vitamins in it.
02:22:32.000 It's just nonsense.
02:22:34.000 And it's also, I was like, what percentage of it is even real people?
02:22:38.000 It's not 100.
02:22:39.000 There's a bunch of it.
02:22:40.000 It's just like bad actors from other countries and people with fucking flags in their bios and who knows what is going on.
02:22:48.000 And it's all just to try to shape narratives.
02:22:50.000 We're involved in it.
02:22:51.000 Russia's involved.
02:22:52.000 China's involved.
02:22:53.000 Corporations are involved.
02:22:55.000 There's like entire companies that are based around crowd campaigns about organizing attacks on individuals, organizing narrative control or organizing, pushing a certain narrative.
02:23:08.000 Entire businesses are built on that, where they try to shape things and make things go viral.
02:23:15.000 Yeah, it's nuts.
02:23:16.000 There's, oh my God, there's so much complete new part of our society that didn't exist before.
02:23:21.000 And it shapes the way we view the world and it's being purposely manipulated by people.
02:23:26.000 And it's legal because safeguards haven't put into place.
02:23:28.000 And also the amount of times that people are talking to bots and like losing themselves.
02:23:35.000 I don't mean like a scam.
02:23:36.000 I mean like fucking interacting just like with you're interacting with a computer right now.
02:23:41.000 Yeah.
02:23:41.000 Uh-huh.
02:23:42.000 All the time.
02:23:43.000 I started getting these weird WhatsApp group texts of investors, people investing in things and how much money they're making.
02:23:50.000 This is incredible.
02:23:50.000 Sign me up.
02:23:51.000 And like all these random fake people will be in the little group chat talking about how, oh, I can't wait to get involved in this.
02:23:59.000 You know, I'm going to go all in on this.
02:24:02.000 And then trying to get you to go, oh, I should go all in.
02:24:05.000 I want to go all in too.
02:24:07.000 I should give you my bank account.
02:24:10.000 Can I wire some money to you?
02:24:12.000 Fuck, man.
02:24:13.000 And so many dumbasses get sucked into things like that.
02:24:16.000 The best, though, is when it happens to like somebody will be like, I sent 80 grand of Brad Pitt.
02:24:23.000 And you're like, what?
02:24:25.000 They're like, Brad Pitt was like messaging me, and it's just like some 60-year-old lady.
02:24:30.000 And she was like, it was, you know, it just felt so real.
02:24:33.000 And it's like, it's, it's like a deep fake.
02:24:36.000 He's like, hi, Amanda.
02:24:38.000 How is how are you today, my love?
02:24:40.000 If you could just send me $30,000 to get out of this.
02:24:43.000 And then she's like, and I did it.
02:24:44.000 I feel like an idiot.
02:24:45.000 And you're like, yeah.
02:24:47.000 You fucking thought Brad Pitt needed 30 grand?
02:24:50.000 Well, here's the thing.
02:24:51.000 If you've got a scam, like there's certain scams we allow, right?
02:24:54.000 Like, here's one: Televangelists.
02:24:54.000 Yeah.
02:24:56.000 We allow that scam.
02:24:57.000 Because if you're so dumb that you think Robert Tilden has got a red line direct line to Jesus, you know, you all ride a chick to me.
02:24:57.000 Yeah.
02:25:06.000 Yeah.
02:25:07.000 He's going to win.
02:25:08.000 He bought like a G4.
02:25:10.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:25:10.000 They all do.
02:25:11.000 They all do.
02:25:12.000 This is the one crazy guy that was pointing at the reporter with the devil.
02:25:15.000 That's the one.
02:25:15.000 No, that's not Robert Tilden.
02:25:16.000 No, but that's the guy who bought that guy.
02:25:18.000 Because she was asking him about that.
02:25:19.000 Tyler Perry gave me such a deal.
02:25:22.000 Yeah.
02:25:22.000 Well, he's just like, I had to take this plane.
02:25:24.000 Oh, my God.
02:25:25.000 That guy looks correct.
02:25:26.000 That guy's crazy.
02:25:28.000 Yeah, he looks scary.
02:25:29.000 But that scam we allow.
02:25:31.000 You know, we allow certain scams.
02:25:32.000 Yeah, we let that work.
02:25:33.000 Like, if you're so dumb that you buy into that, like, that's not even illegal.
02:25:37.000 I do feel so, so bad, though, when it happens to the elderly.
02:25:40.000 I feel so terrible for them.
02:25:42.000 It's terrible.
02:25:43.000 This guy.
02:25:43.000 That guy.
02:25:44.000 Kenneth Copeland.
02:25:46.000 Yeah.
02:25:46.000 This guy's spectacular.
02:25:48.000 Dirty fingers.
02:25:49.000 Imagine that dirty finger in your asshole.
02:25:50.000 Here's my plane, y'all.
02:25:52.000 Dirty plane.
02:25:53.000 Wealthy televangelist defends using private aircraft in viral exchange.
02:25:57.000 Yeah.
02:25:58.000 Medea gave him a bad thing.
02:25:58.000 Yeah.
02:25:59.000 He's got to do all of his work.
02:26:01.000 He's got to do all that work.
02:26:03.000 Preacher who wants $54 million jet will donate old jet.
02:26:07.000 What a good guy.
02:26:08.000 What a sweet guy.
02:26:09.000 What's that guy?
02:26:10.000 Jesse DuPlantis.
02:26:12.000 See, like those guys, we allow that.
02:26:15.000 We allow that kind of thing.
02:26:17.000 Which is crazy.
02:26:17.000 They should be in prison.
02:26:19.000 They're fucking scumbags.
02:26:21.000 Yeah, but they're getting people to voluntarily get money, which is weird.
02:26:25.000 Then there was the guy.
02:26:27.000 He asked his congregation for $65 million to buy a jet.
02:26:31.000 Do you remember the one that was like locked the doors?
02:26:33.000 And that was a whole scandal?
02:26:35.000 He's like, shut the doors.
02:26:37.000 Lock the doors.
02:26:39.000 For donations.
02:26:39.000 Oh, for what?
02:26:41.000 He's like, we are not.
02:26:42.000 Oh, that's right.
02:26:43.000 That's right.
02:26:44.000 We're not leaving.
02:26:44.000 Until you shut the doors.
02:26:46.000 Yeah, who was that guy?
02:26:47.000 Pastor Locke's church door demands $40,000.
02:26:50.000 Yeah.
02:26:52.000 Ushers, close the doors.
02:26:53.000 There's a hundred.
02:26:54.000 There's a thousand of you.
02:26:55.000 Close them doors.
02:26:56.000 Ushers, close the doors.
02:26:57.000 That is so crazy.
02:26:58.000 That's insane.
02:26:59.000 That's so crazy.
02:27:01.000 You just lock the doors.
02:27:03.000 People fucking do that.
02:27:08.000 Well, there was a thing during the, what is it, Katrina or what was it down in Houston?
02:27:13.000 So one of the floods with that dude, the famous one.
02:27:18.000 Oh, yeah.
02:27:19.000 The guy that has the big arena.
02:27:21.000 Yeah.
02:27:21.000 What's his name?
02:27:24.000 Fuck, what is his name?
02:27:25.000 Fuck's name, Jamie.
02:27:26.000 You know what I'm talking about.
02:27:27.000 He's like ass in the wrong game.
02:27:28.000 Big shit-eating grin.
02:27:29.000 Yeah.
02:27:30.000 Black hair.
02:27:31.000 Joel Osteen.
02:27:32.000 Osteen.
02:27:32.000 That guy.
02:27:33.000 Yeah.
02:27:33.000 Yeah.
02:27:34.000 He wouldn't let the homeless go in there.
02:27:35.000 Yeah.
02:27:36.000 Yeah, he can't go.
02:27:36.000 No, no, no.
02:27:37.000 Like, we need places to put people.
02:27:39.000 Not in here.
02:27:40.000 It's going to be gross.
02:27:40.000 Yeah.
02:27:41.000 People have lost their homes.
02:27:42.000 No, no, no, no.
02:27:43.000 You can't shit on my floor.
02:27:44.000 Get out of here.
02:27:44.000 No.
02:27:46.000 The power of Christ.
02:27:48.000 I think he did eventually let everybody in under pressure.
02:27:50.000 Wow.
02:27:51.000 I think eventually.
02:27:52.000 They shamed him into it.
02:27:53.000 He realized, like, oh, yeah, I got to.
02:27:53.000 Yeah.
02:27:55.000 What would Jesus do?
02:27:56.000 Yeah.
02:27:57.000 Jesus would just hire more people to clean up.
02:27:59.000 Jesus would get the all-new Global 7500.
02:28:02.000 Jesus would get our new Rolls-Royce.
02:28:02.000 Yeah.
02:28:04.000 Unreal.
02:28:05.000 Yeah.
02:28:06.000 They all do it, though.
02:28:07.000 That's funny.
02:28:08.000 They all have super expensive suits.
02:28:09.000 And tax-free, right?
02:28:11.000 This is religion.
02:28:12.000 That's the nuttiest part.
02:28:13.000 That's the weird part about the scam is that you're allowed to be tax-free.
02:28:17.000 Fucking A.
02:28:18.000 That is weird.
02:28:19.000 It is weird.
02:28:20.000 It's also weird when you think about what happens on the corporate level that there's these corporations that make like hundreds of billions of dollars.
02:28:29.000 And they're like, yeah, they didn't pay tax on this because they're this corporation.
02:28:33.000 Right.
02:28:33.000 Those are tax loopholes, though.
02:28:34.000 Yeah, well, they'll funnel it to Ireland and then not pay tax on it.
02:28:39.000 Well, supposedly that's what Jeffrey Epstein did for people.
02:28:42.000 Found those tax loops.
02:28:43.000 He helped people with tax loopholes and he helped rich people figure out how to save money.
02:28:49.000 I mean much money.
02:28:50.000 It exists for a reason, right?
02:28:52.000 Well, scumbags.
02:28:53.000 Yeah.
02:28:54.000 They've all put it in place.
02:28:56.000 Power's the bigo.
02:28:57.000 I got you.
02:28:57.000 They just want to make sure that they keep the most amount of money possible.
02:29:01.000 Yeah.
02:29:02.000 And then there's that thing where like no one should be a billionaire.
02:29:04.000 Well, okay.
02:29:04.000 Hang on.
02:29:05.000 Do you like having a fucking iPhone?
02:29:07.000 Yeah.
02:29:07.000 Somebody had to make that.
02:29:09.000 They're working 16 hours a day.
02:29:11.000 You don't want to be Tim Cook.
02:29:12.000 I'm not saying you know what I'm saying?
02:29:14.000 You don't want to be Steve Jobs.
02:29:16.000 Guy died young because of it.
02:29:17.000 But I guess the argument that some people make against that is not that that guy shouldn't be wealthy.
02:29:22.000 It's that when they have this overabundance of wealth and that the people that also work there don't have like certain health coverage or something.
02:29:30.000 You're like, really?
02:29:31.000 Like these Amazon warehouse guys are like fucking dying in the warehouse?
02:29:35.000 Are they?
02:29:36.000 Well, I mean, they talk about these work conditions that are sometimes deplorable, right?
02:29:41.000 And then you have the people at the top with like hundreds of billions of dollars.
02:29:45.000 Like you can't trickle any of that down to like some of your workers.
02:29:49.000 That always seems like a legit complaint from people to me.
02:29:52.000 Oh, for sure.
02:29:53.000 I mean, listen, if they didn't work, you would have nothing.
02:29:53.000 Yeah.
02:29:56.000 Exactly.
02:29:57.000 That's what's weird.
02:29:58.000 This guy's doing like, he's making like $15 an hour.
02:30:00.000 But if he didn't start the company, they wouldn't have a job.
02:30:03.000 True.
02:30:04.000 But, you know, at a certain point in time, it sounds like spread it around.
02:30:07.000 Spread it around a little bit.
02:30:08.000 Yeah.
02:30:08.000 Spread it around.
02:30:10.000 It's probably better for everybody.
02:30:10.000 Seems like.
02:30:11.000 If you spread it around, maybe people wouldn't hate you as much.
02:30:14.000 There's always going to be people that are like, you should donate it all.
02:30:16.000 I mean, that's like the beautiful utopian.
02:30:20.000 There is that one that did it, too.
02:30:21.000 Was it the Patagonia guy?
02:30:23.000 Did he?
02:30:24.000 I think it's the Patagonia guy that became a legit billionaire and donated almost every fucking penny of it.
02:30:32.000 I think it's him.
02:30:34.000 You know that song, I love to change the world.
02:30:36.000 I'd love to change the world, but I don't know what to do.
02:30:40.000 Is that right, Jamie?
02:30:41.000 Was it him?
02:30:43.000 I mean, I got typed in Patagonia.
02:30:45.000 I was first just typed in billionaire that gave donated everything, and another guy popped up.
02:30:50.000 There's probably a bunch of people.
02:30:51.000 It's one of the outdoor apparel people.
02:30:55.000 It's an outdoor apparel billionaire who literally, I think, gave away like 98% of his.
02:31:01.000 Yeah.
02:31:02.000 The dude kept like.
02:31:03.000 Where did he give it to?
02:31:04.000 Because somebody probably took his money.
02:31:05.000 They're probably living on a yacht somewhere.
02:31:08.000 That's the problem.
02:31:09.000 I think he gave it to a lot of land preservation type of things.
02:31:13.000 Good stuff.
02:31:14.000 Things that make sense.
02:31:14.000 Yeah.
02:31:15.000 Okay.
02:31:16.000 Well, that's smart if you're an outdoor company.
02:31:18.000 And that's what you love.
02:31:18.000 Yeah.
02:31:19.000 But it is like that almost unbelievable, you know what I mean, level of generosity that a guy won in capitalism to that degree and was like, he probably did mushrooms one day.
02:31:32.000 What am I doing?
02:31:33.000 I'm living in this is a prison.
02:31:33.000 What am I doing?
02:31:35.000 Yeah.
02:31:35.000 I'm imprisoned by all this money.
02:31:37.000 Yeah, maybe.
02:31:38.000 Sam Walton was apparently like pretty down to earth too.
02:31:42.000 You know, the Walmart guy.
02:31:44.000 Got started.
02:31:44.000 Yeah.
02:31:45.000 Yeah, I mean, he drove his old pickup truck even when shit was like really popping.
02:31:49.000 I mean, he died a long time ago.
02:31:51.000 His kids don't live like that.
02:31:52.000 I would have yelled at him if he had an old pickup truck.
02:31:54.000 If I was Joey Diaz, what the fuck are you doing with this old pickup truck?
02:31:58.000 You're bawling now, cocksucker.
02:32:00.000 Get a fucking Cadillac at least.
02:32:00.000 Yeah.
02:32:02.000 Yeah, his children and grandchildren live a very different life.
02:32:09.000 Of course.
02:32:10.000 Yeah.
02:32:10.000 Yeah, they're Nepo babies.
02:32:11.000 Yeah.
02:32:12.000 That's not good.
02:32:12.000 Yeah.
02:32:13.000 That's a tough way to live.
02:32:15.000 When Forbes named Sam Walton, America's richest man, October 28th, 1985, people were shocked to discover he lived a humble life in Bentonville, Arkansas, with a muddy bird dog running around the yard.
02:32:15.000 It is.
02:32:27.000 He was America's richest man in 1985.
02:32:30.000 They're also surprised choice of vehicles, 1979 Ford F-150.
02:32:33.000 But as Sam said, why do I drive a pickup truck?
02:32:36.000 What am I supposed to do?
02:32:37.000 Haul my dogs around in a Rolls-Royce?
02:32:39.000 Just what he was.
02:32:42.000 Also, it's different, I think, when he made it to that level as like a regular guy.
02:32:50.000 And he was already like in his 40s or something, 50s.
02:32:52.000 It was just different for him.
02:32:54.000 He wasn't handed anything.
02:32:55.000 Don't forget who you are.
02:32:56.000 Don't forget who you are, cocksucker.
02:32:58.000 Yeah, he didn't.
02:32:59.000 Well, some people do.
02:33:01.000 That is weird, too, right?
02:33:02.000 It's weird when people change radically.
02:33:05.000 So radically, yeah.
02:33:06.000 Yeah.
02:33:07.000 But also that level of wealth is like not something that most people can even comprehend.
02:33:13.000 No, you can't comprehend billions.
02:33:14.000 He was the richest man in the world.
02:33:16.000 Yeah.
02:33:17.000 He drove a pickup truck with a bunch of dogs.
02:33:19.000 Like, what are you doing with your money?
02:33:20.000 I was watching that documentary about the murder in Monaco.
02:33:24.000 Did you watch that one?
02:33:25.000 No, what's that one?
02:33:26.000 That one was about a guy who was one of the 200 wealthiest people in the world.
02:33:31.000 Safran, I think's his last name.
02:33:33.000 He was a banker.
02:33:35.000 And he lived an ostentatious life.
02:33:37.000 I mean, like out of control, humongous villas.
02:33:42.000 He had 25 security guards around him at all times.
02:33:45.000 That was a good thing.
02:33:45.000 And was like a target.
02:33:47.000 And he was murdered in his penthouse in Monaco.
02:33:51.000 What was he doing that everybody wanted him dead?
02:33:53.000 He just had a lot of in well, one of the things is that he invested or was like one of the people that got this Russian, I don't know if it was like Russian crypto, some type of currency or stock market in Russia that collapsed when Russia devalued their currency by like 75% all of a sudden one year.
02:34:14.000 So billions of dollars disappeared from people.
02:34:17.000 And so he became like a target of the Russians, but he also had connections to a lot of governments.
02:34:23.000 When you're a high-level banker with banks everywhere, you're deeply connected to some like not-so-great people.
02:34:31.000 And so there was always like who did it.
02:34:33.000 And then his wife, who it was, I think she was, he was her fourth husband, also had two other husbands die.
02:34:46.000 One of them was like the richest guy in Brazil.
02:34:49.000 He died.
02:34:50.000 Oh boy.
02:34:51.000 Oh, boy.
02:34:52.000 And then people suspected that this guy, Safran's nurse, may have killed him.
02:34:58.000 And that's what the documentary was about.
02:35:00.000 And they interviewed him.
02:35:03.000 And like the documentary is supposed to, like, when the documentary.
02:35:05.000 Male nurse?
02:35:06.000 Male nurse.
02:35:08.000 And he was convicted.
02:35:09.000 He was convicted.
02:35:11.000 And he served like 10 years.
02:35:13.000 And then he's in the documentary during the interview, right?
02:35:16.000 Like they keep interviewing him and other people.
02:35:19.000 And then it's like the documentary ends.
02:35:21.000 And then the documentary filmmaker is like, this is where the documentary was supposed to end.
02:35:28.000 But this guy who we just did this documentary about, this male nurse, as we were in post-production on this, got arrested for, he did like some forged checks shit, I think maybe in Arizona, and got locked up.
02:35:45.000 And his cellmate was like, yeah, he tried to hire me to kill his ex-wife.
02:35:49.000 So then he got put on trial for soliciting to murder his ex-wife.
02:35:54.000 And then they go and interview him again.
02:35:56.000 He's like, nah, it's all bullshit, man.
02:35:57.000 I'm telling you, it's fucking like, he's like, it's very strange.
02:36:01.000 And it's like, it's one of those things where you're like, you don't think it's the guy, and then you do think it's the guy.
02:36:07.000 What's it called?
02:36:08.000 I think it's called Murder in Monaco.
02:36:11.000 Monaco's a crazy place.
02:36:12.000 Have you been there?
02:36:13.000 I've never been to Monaco.
02:36:14.000 Never been.
02:36:15.000 It's really wild, though.
02:36:16.000 It's weird.
02:36:17.000 There's so much money there.
02:36:18.000 Everywhere you look is a Rolls-Royce or a Ferrari.
02:36:21.000 What is going on here?
02:36:22.000 Highest amount of millionaires and billionaires in the geographic square mile or whatever.
02:36:30.000 Because it's so small, actually.
02:36:32.000 Right.
02:36:32.000 And if you have residency there, I believe there's crazy taxes.
02:36:36.000 You don't pay taxes.
02:36:37.000 You don't pay taxes.
02:36:38.000 And guess what?
02:36:39.000 When the husband died, the wife got her Monaco citizenship that week and then inherited the money, didn't pay any tax.
02:36:49.000 Wow.
02:36:51.000 Yeah.
02:36:52.000 How hard is it to get a Monaco citizenship?
02:36:54.000 I bet it's somewhat challenging.
02:36:56.000 Really?
02:36:57.000 I think so.
02:36:57.000 I don't know.
02:36:58.000 Got to meet the right people.
02:37:00.000 I would assume.
02:37:00.000 I mean, I know, like, for instance, you know, where it's like impossible and there's great benefits to it is UAE.
02:37:06.000 They don't give that shit to anybody.
02:37:07.000 Oh, really?
02:37:08.000 Yeah, you got to be from there.
02:37:09.000 And that's the same kind of benefits, right?
02:37:11.000 Yes, massive, massive benefits of being a – there's even a thing if you're a UAE citizen.
02:37:17.000 Like if we have the same job and you're a non-citizen and I am a citizen, I get double your salary.
02:37:25.000 Wow.
02:37:25.000 Just from being from UAE.
02:37:27.000 Things like that.
02:37:28.000 Yeah.
02:37:28.000 Government will also pay for your housing, give you a car, pay for your education.
02:37:33.000 Yeah.
02:37:34.000 But they have a small, one of the reasons they have extreme wealth, but they also don't have a high population of native citizens.
02:37:41.000 So they're able to do things like that also.
02:37:41.000 Right.
02:37:44.000 And they have insane oil money.
02:37:45.000 Insane.
02:37:47.000 Especially in Abu Dhabi.
02:37:48.000 Well, that's when people talk about like the richest man in the world.
02:37:50.000 Yeah.
02:37:51.000 They're like, okay, publicly.
02:37:53.000 But those guys don't have to tell you how much money they have.
02:37:53.000 Yeah.
02:37:55.000 There's also a big difference between being extremely wealthy holding stock and extremely wealthy holding cash.
02:38:03.000 That's a real big difference.
02:38:05.000 Yeah.
02:38:05.000 Yeah.
02:38:05.000 Well, that's why it's wild what these guys are doing with like the Saudi Arabians are doing with boxing.
02:38:10.000 Because they're just going, what fight, what do you guys want to see?
02:38:12.000 Yeah.
02:38:13.000 Okay.
02:38:13.000 Let me call that guy.
02:38:14.000 Yeah.
02:38:15.000 We'll give you $100 million.
02:38:16.000 Like, what?
02:38:16.000 Yeah.
02:38:17.000 And then they're like, that ain't shit.
02:38:18.000 That's fine.
02:38:19.000 Yeah.
02:38:19.000 Yeah.
02:38:20.000 That Saudi entertainment fund is the government's fund.
02:38:24.000 What was it like doing that Riyadh Festival?
02:38:25.000 Fantastic.
02:38:26.000 It was fantastic.
02:38:26.000 Yeah.
02:38:28.000 I mean, the people there were amazing.
02:38:31.000 Like, you know, there's always like you look at things on the news and you have your preconceived notion of like what things are.
02:38:38.000 But when you're on the ground somewhere and you're with people, you know, I was just meeting wonderful people.
02:38:38.000 Right.
02:38:44.000 We went to the, they had the comedy club there.
02:38:46.000 We went to the club.
02:38:47.000 Like not what we were brought there to do.
02:38:49.000 Like they have like comedy pod, I think it's called.
02:38:52.000 And it was just like, I mean, it was just Saudi, like local people.
02:38:56.000 And the crowd was just citizens.
02:38:59.000 And they were all just so warm and welcoming.
02:39:01.000 And they were such huge admirers of ours of like American comedy and American podcasts.
02:39:08.000 And they were just super sweet.
02:39:09.000 Like they were so genuine.
02:39:11.000 And what is the restrictions in terms of like language and subject matter?
02:39:16.000 So everybody was highly, highly, highly well versed in not just English, but like American pop culture.
02:39:24.000 So everything we talked about, they got everything.
02:39:26.000 You know, they got everything.
02:39:28.000 I mean, I went one the night before I went to see Jimmy Carr and Louie perform.
02:39:33.000 And like I was, I was like, holy shit, they get like even like the little throwaway lines, you know, like the things that aren't even like the bit, like the little jokes.
02:39:42.000 The only restriction that we were, that we had was about Islam and the royals.
02:39:47.000 That was it.
02:39:48.000 Which wasn't really a hard thing for most people to adhere to because like, you know, like me and those guys, like we didn't have Islam or royal jokes.
02:39:57.000 We weren't cutting anything from our acts.
02:39:59.000 Right.
02:40:00.000 By the way, when we did UAE, you know, like Dubai and Abu Dhabi, they were like, do not talk about same, same thing.
02:40:00.000 So I was like, yeah.
02:40:09.000 Don't talk about our royals.
02:40:11.000 Don't talk about Islam.
02:40:13.000 Don't be like super graphic about.
02:40:16.000 But then we did do graphic stuff and they're like, yeah, that's fine.
02:40:18.000 They're like, just take it easy on the royals and on Islam.
02:40:22.000 So I was like, yeah, that's not a challenge for me.
02:40:26.000 But the country, like as far as the people that we met, they were all fantastic.
02:40:31.000 They were really sweet people.
02:40:33.000 It's just, people have a weirdness of like you're going over there because it's the Saudi royal family has the money.
02:40:41.000 The Saudi family is the family that funds the entertainment fund.
02:40:46.000 And then people were like, they would accuse me of whataboutism for saying that that's the same fund that paid for Ed Sheeran to come and Beyonce to come to do their shows.
02:40:56.000 I'm like, but how that's just facts.
02:40:58.000 Like, it's not whataboutism.
02:40:59.000 It's like, that's the money that funds entertainment.
02:41:04.000 And then some people will go, well, you should do it if the money came from like, let's say, a promoter.
02:41:04.000 Right.
02:41:10.000 But you're like, yeah, but that doesn't exist yet.
02:41:12.000 Do you know what I mean?
02:41:14.000 Like, this is the system that's in place.
02:41:16.000 Now, maybe in like- So who accused you of whataboutism?
02:41:19.000 Just- Just people were so vocally upset that we went.
02:41:23.000 Yeah.
02:41:24.000 And I was like, I mean, first of all, the way that I went was that I was doing Dubai.
02:41:31.000 I was booked to do Dubai, which is in UAE.
02:41:34.000 It was already announced.
02:41:35.000 And then three months later, I got a call and they're like, hey, do you want to do Riyadh?
02:41:40.000 It's like a 90-minute flight.
02:41:42.000 I'm like, I'm in the fucking Middle East.
02:41:43.000 Yeah, I'll add a show.
02:41:45.000 I'm there.
02:41:46.000 It's like routing.
02:41:47.000 Did you know it was a festival?
02:41:48.000 And then they told me the lineup.
02:41:48.000 I knew it was a festival.
02:41:49.000 And the lineup was bananas.
02:41:51.000 It was like Kevin Hart, Bill Burr, Dave Chappelle.
02:41:54.000 I was like, oh.
02:41:55.000 I was like, that sounds like a great lineup.
02:41:56.000 I didn't think really like that I was doing something that would upset.
02:42:01.000 I had no idea.
02:42:02.000 I had no idea.
02:42:03.000 You didn't think it would be something that people would get offended by.
02:42:06.000 I mean, the people that were most offended were the comics that weren't invited.
02:42:10.000 Yeah.
02:42:11.000 There's a lot of them that was.
02:42:11.000 I know.
02:42:12.000 There was a lot of them.
02:42:12.000 A lot of them were super vocal.
02:42:13.000 And I'm like, you can't sell a ticket in Houston.
02:42:15.000 I don't know why you're upset about Riyadh.
02:42:17.000 No one's going to see you anyway.
02:42:19.000 It was a bunch of 50-year-old feature acts that were upset.
02:42:23.000 And then we went over there, had a great time.
02:42:27.000 And I actually think that one of the things that was overlooked is the fact that we were all saying they're like, oh, you had to adhere to all.
02:42:34.000 I was like, dude, I told you the two restrictions, which we had didn't affect my act.
02:42:40.000 And I do think it's a sign of their progress that they put on this festival and that we were saying all kinds of wild shit, like the shit that we say on stage, without talk.
02:42:50.000 We didn't talk about Islam.
02:42:53.000 I mean, that wasn't a crazy thing to me.
02:42:55.000 Like, I think that that's showing, because what's happening actually there is that right now the entertainment hub of the Middle East is Dubai.
02:43:04.000 That is the entertainment hub of the Middle East.
02:43:07.000 That's where people go.
02:43:08.000 That's their Vegas.
02:43:10.000 Big shows, spectacles, all types of shit.
02:43:14.000 Saudi Arabia is like, no, we want to be the hub.
02:43:19.000 And they have super deep pockets.
02:43:22.000 And so they're trying to be the, to compete with Dubai in entertainment.
02:43:27.000 That's what the fuel of this is.
02:43:29.000 And putting on this festival, to me, felt like that's a path towards their goal of like entertainment can be here.
02:43:39.000 And they put on a great festival, treated us fantastic.
02:43:44.000 You know, people get, I don't mind if people are like, you can be mad.
02:43:46.000 Be mad about whatever you want.
02:43:47.000 I don't care.
02:43:48.000 But as an experience, it was an amazing experience.
02:43:51.000 And I do think that they'll continue to put on these festivals.
02:43:54.000 It'll be very interesting to watch as this festival continues who goes, who gets invited and goes, who was against it at the beginning.
02:44:03.000 Because you know it's going to be a few people.
02:44:04.000 And I have some screenshots that I've seen.
02:44:06.000 So we'll see who goes.
02:44:08.000 Maybe, perhaps.
02:44:09.000 It's interesting.
02:44:11.000 It's interesting that comics are held to a higher standard than singers or other people that perform over there.
02:44:16.000 Yeah, I mean.
02:44:16.000 It is weird, though, you know, because it's like comedy uniquely challenges the idea of free speech.
02:44:22.000 Yeah.
02:44:23.000 Sure.
02:44:24.000 Yeah, that makes sense.
02:44:25.000 Yeah.
02:44:25.000 Yeah.
02:44:26.000 But I mean.
02:44:27.000 Because it's not like if someone says don't sing any songs about Islam, you're like, well, I don't have any songs.
02:44:30.000 But I have to say that also, like, some of these comics who are saying this, like, oh, you know, you don't have free speech and you adhered to these restrictions.
02:44:37.000 It's like, have you ever done a private?
02:44:39.000 Have you ever done a university?
02:44:40.000 I have.
02:44:41.000 Yeah.
02:44:41.000 They had restrictions.
02:44:42.000 Yeah.
02:44:42.000 You know, they were like, don't talk about our mascot.
02:44:44.000 Don't talk about this.
02:44:45.000 Don't talk about that.
02:44:46.000 Yeah.
02:44:47.000 And specifically, if you don't have that in your act already, then the question is, should you be working for those people because of what happened with Jamal Khashoggi?
02:44:54.000 That's everyone's big argument.
02:44:56.000 I think Dave had the best line about that.
02:44:58.000 It's like Israel killed 240 journalists last month.
02:44:58.000 Yeah.
02:45:02.000 Yeah.
02:45:02.000 You know, like, what are you talking about?
02:45:04.000 I mean, the last three months.
02:45:05.000 It's a fair point.
02:45:06.000 It is a fair point.
02:45:08.000 Yeah.
02:45:09.000 It's just different, right?
02:45:10.000 Like one guy was sought up in an embassy.
02:45:14.000 Yeah, in a way in suitcases.
02:45:15.000 Not good.
02:45:16.000 It's awful.
02:45:16.000 It's horrific what happened.
02:45:18.000 But also, I mean, if you want to go down that line of that article.
02:45:23.000 Then you shouldn't be working in America either.
02:45:25.000 I mean, that's like, are we saying that only their awful thing is worth their funding it, right?
02:45:33.000 As opposed to, like, if you work in America, it's not, the CIA doesn't fund a comedy show.
02:45:38.000 Sure, sure.
02:45:38.000 You know what I mean?
02:45:39.000 Okay, well, I mean, there's a lot of ways to look at it.
02:45:43.000 And if it really upsets you, my position is good.
02:45:47.000 Well, the other thing.
02:45:48.000 Let it upset you.
02:45:49.000 Yeah, let it upset you.
02:45:50.000 The other thing that, like, culturally, it is a good thing to bring great comics over to Saudi Arabia.
02:45:56.000 I think so.
02:45:56.000 It's good for people to hear what Jimmy Carr and you and Louie and Bill and all these comics have to say and Dave.
02:46:04.000 It's a good thing for the culture.
02:46:06.000 Like, it's a good thing for humans.
02:46:07.000 It's a good thing to open up society.
02:46:09.000 And it seems like outside of this whole Jamal Khashoggi thing, which again is indefensible, right?
02:46:18.000 Yeah.
02:46:18.000 Outside of that, this is a more progressive organization.
02:46:21.000 Like, they are letting women drive now.
02:46:24.000 They're like, slowly, this is coming into a more modern story.
02:46:28.000 It is progress.
02:46:29.000 It is a sign of progress.
02:46:30.000 Whether people accept that or not, it is a sign of progress there.
02:46:34.000 Yeah, it doesn't help the people there if you never interact with them ever again because of something their government did.
02:46:42.000 Exactly.
02:46:43.000 And I have to tell you, if you saw the faces of these people that we were performing for, and the, I mean, when you could, because sometimes they're like this.
02:46:51.000 But how genuinely thankful and excited they were to be at these shows.
02:46:57.000 It was awesome.
02:46:58.000 If you live in Saudi Arabia, you never would imagine you'd see a lineup like that.
02:47:01.000 I mean, some of the guys, they were telling us.
02:47:01.000 Oh, my God.
02:47:03.000 They were like, dude, like 10 years ago, they're like, nothing like this could have ever, ever happened here.
02:47:07.000 So I don't know how you don't see that as some type of progress.
02:47:09.000 What's up, Jamie?
02:47:10.000 I've just stumbled across something insane.
02:47:12.000 What?
02:47:14.000 This is on the justice websites.
02:47:16.000 Justice.com.
02:47:17.000 Justice.
02:47:18.000 Jamie's scrolling through the film.
02:47:19.000 I don't know how it's going to be.
02:47:20.000 No, I just saw a tweet and clicked the link.
02:47:23.000 What is this?
02:47:25.000 Corner of the screen says Jay Epstein.
02:47:27.000 Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?
02:47:28.000 What?
02:47:30.000 That's the date?
02:47:32.000 So what is he doing here?
02:47:34.000 It's a 12-second video that someone found on their website.
02:47:34.000 I don't know.
02:47:37.000 You see that again?
02:47:38.000 Put that up?
02:47:39.000 Can you pause it and make it larger?
02:47:43.000 So is he hanging himself there?
02:47:45.000 Is that what this is?
02:47:46.000 It looks like he's leaning on it.
02:47:47.000 Not showing it on the screen because I don't even remember this.
02:47:50.000 But I don't even know if that's like what is.
02:47:51.000 It looks like plain white hair.
02:47:53.000 I don't know if it was, you know.
02:47:54.000 Well, he definitely had white hair.
02:47:56.000 But like, what's the date?
02:47:58.000 Is that him with a thing wrapped around his neck and he's trying to kill himself?
02:48:02.000 That's, I'm always supposed to.
02:48:02.000 I don't.
02:48:04.000 So one thing that's important was he had a previous suicide attempt, supposedly.
02:48:11.000 When he was locked up.
02:48:12.000 Yeah.
02:48:13.000 I mean, that was one of the reasons why he was under like 24-hour supervision.
02:48:17.000 That's the case, right?
02:48:18.000 Didn't he have a previous suicide attempt?
02:48:20.000 I don't even know how someone found this.
02:48:22.000 That's crazy.
02:48:24.000 That's on the government website?
02:48:25.000 But you imagine that they've had this footage the whole time.
02:48:29.000 Is that real?
02:48:30.000 I'm sure you all found it.
02:48:32.000 Yeah, but you know what I'm saying?
02:48:33.000 It's like, who knows what's real?
02:48:34.000 I watched a cruise ship hit a bridge and the bridge fell apart and everybody died.
02:48:39.000 It's fake.
02:48:40.000 It's fake?
02:48:41.000 Oh, yeah.
02:48:42.000 For like a half of a second, though, I was like, oh, like, oh, my God, I thought it happened today.
02:48:46.000 Like, yeah.
02:48:47.000 And then I'm like, wait, how much better are they going to get at that?
02:48:47.000 New tragedy.
02:48:50.000 Oh, it's going to be impossible to tell.
02:48:52.000 It's so much better than it was just a couple of years ago.
02:48:55.000 Someone guessed the URL of the files that were uploaded to DOJ's website that were not announced yet and found the video.
02:49:01.000 Holy fuck.
02:49:03.000 Okay.
02:49:03.000 And then they corrected it and said it's 100% fake.
02:49:05.000 Oh, but it's on that website still, which is on the Justice Department.
02:49:08.000 I guess it means there's fake shit on the website.
02:49:10.000 Oh boy, this video is 100% fake with the Visual Deed released by the DOJ.
02:49:14.000 It seems it's a collection of files collected by investigators, and this fake video originated on 4chan.
02:49:22.000 4chan strikes again.
02:49:22.000 So, even there, guys.
02:49:24.000 Wow.
02:49:24.000 Yeah, man.
02:49:26.000 It's going to be impossible to know in the future.
02:49:28.000 There's no way to tell.
02:49:29.000 There's no way.
02:49:31.000 There's no way.
02:49:32.000 Real fucking weird.
02:49:33.000 Because already with the voice stuff, it's crazy.
02:49:35.000 Like, I can listen to something your voice, and I'll be like, and then find out that it's fake.
02:49:41.000 They can alter it to make you excited, make you a little sad here.
02:49:46.000 And in your case, in my case, there's just thousands of hours of us speaking.
02:49:50.000 So it's even easier.
02:49:52.000 Oh, yeah.
02:49:52.000 And that won't even matter in the future.
02:49:54.000 It's like with the newer technology, they'll be able to manipulate it.
02:49:57.000 And it's going to get way better.
02:49:59.000 Yeah.
02:49:59.000 That's what's, I mean, what does that even mean?
02:50:02.000 What does it mean?
02:50:03.000 Tom Segura, tell everybody once again, guys, pause some comedy special.
02:50:08.000 It's called Teacher.
02:50:09.000 It's on Netflix.
02:50:10.000 When does this come out?
02:50:12.000 If you're in the hypnot.
02:50:13.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to play a soundboard.
02:50:14.000 This will be out tomorrow.
02:50:15.000 Oh, great.
02:50:16.000 Yeah.
02:50:16.000 So it's just Christmas tomorrow.
02:50:18.000 It comes out Christmas Eve.
02:50:19.000 Christmas Eve on Netflix.
02:50:21.000 It's called Teacher.
02:50:22.000 I'm very excited about it.
02:50:24.000 I thank you so much for watching it over this holiday break.
02:50:28.000 I toured time to release.
02:50:30.000 I toured for two years to get ready for this one.
02:50:32.000 I'm very happy with it.
02:50:33.000 So I hope you enjoy it.
02:50:35.000 Well, if it's any of the stuff that I've been watching, it's going to be awesome.
02:50:37.000 Thanks, brother.
02:50:38.000 I'm killing it.
02:50:39.000 Thanks for having me.
02:50:39.000 Thank you so much.
02:50:40.000 Beautiful to see.
02:50:40.000 I'm excited.
02:50:41.000 I'm happy.
02:50:43.000 All right.
02:50:43.000 That's it.
02:50:44.000 Merry Christmas.
02:50:44.000 Bye, everybody.
02:50:45.000 Merry Christmas.