In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the boys talk about their favorite childhood toys and the things they used to do when they were kids. From candy cigarettes to hot glue guns, it's all here in this episode.
00:02:20.000Like, yes, the phones are obviously very bad for kids, but when you think about the stuff we did as kids, I was just like, I would just hang out with a light socket for like two hours.
00:04:43.000From 78 to 86, approximately 6,100 to 6,700 people were treated in U.S. emergency rooms for lawn dart injuries, most of them children.
00:04:53.000Found lawn dart injuries led to a 4% case fatality rate in its patient sample with many severe head and eye injuries, which helped justify the eventual ban.
00:05:05.000So only a couple, but mostly children.
00:05:08.000I would like to know the story of the adults.
00:05:11.000But I mean, people hit people with shovels.
00:05:15.000I guess it was because lawn darts are a toy that they had a banned it.
00:06:57.000Because they have so many projects that they're doing that require intense fucking research and they're Googling, saying ChatGPT, please write my article for me.
00:08:06.000The inability to focus or the busy brain.
00:08:09.000Dude, I look, I just, I think a lot of our superpowers are being dull.
00:08:14.000A lot of people with superpowers are being dulled by pharma and we're being pathologized for actually kind of extreme strengths, you know, in a lot of ways.
00:08:23.000So there's a lot of like legitimate people that are arguing that about ADHD.
00:08:28.000I'm not like a legitimate psychologist, neuroscientists.
00:08:33.000It's what it is, is you can't concentrate on things you're not interested in, but you can concentrate on things you're interested in like heavily.
00:08:40.000Like people that are that supposedly have ADHD, they could play video games for fucking 10 hours a day.
00:08:50.000Oh, they can't sit in a classroom and watch some pedophile lecture them on fake history while they're getting hemorrhoids in some like chair with like shitty lighting above them.
00:08:58.000I mean, it's like, yeah, of course kids are bored.
00:09:02.000You know, well, it was, I was reading about how Finland, they don't teach their kids to read until they're like seven because it's better to have them develop their ability to focus first on the things they want to do.
00:09:13.000So by the time they do learn to read, they actually, you know, can focus.
00:12:04.000You know, like they'd go to a lesser-known comic feed, like people that wrote for Fallon or Leno, who'd, you know, showcase night of the store.
00:15:25.000They had a philosophy that you would defend your lover more because if you were fighting alongside a man that you loved, you would defend him more.
00:15:46.000I always am like, what are the things we're doing now that we're going to look back in 50 years and be like, remember in 2006 when they were doing that?
00:18:26.000You know, like my hippocampus was just full of so I actually in some ways feel like you might be smarter if you forget half the shit you know because half the shit we learned has been debunked anyway.
00:18:36.000Like half of like science and history like is not even so me unknowing it might even make me smarter.
00:18:42.000Like Andrew Huberman was having a conversation with a professor at Stanford and he said, what percentage of what's in medical journals and what's taught in school is no longer applicable?
00:19:20.000And remember they just had a fish with like eyeballs?
00:19:23.000like that's actually probably a good one now but um but at the top you know now like the littlest amount of stuff you're supposed to get is grains and you're supposed to get meat and eggs at the bottom which was always i mean look there was a study that was like widely criticized fairly recently that labeled fruit loops as being healthier than ground beef But who sponsored that stuff?
00:19:47.000That's the thing about all these things.
00:19:56.000You know how we're in this quote culture where you'll just like, and you probably don't have this in your algorithm, but it's like inspiring quotes.
00:20:03.000And I'm like, I need to know who said it.
00:21:56.000I remember being like, where is all this coming from?
00:21:59.000Like, you're all of a sudden horny, like where you were never horny, and then all of a sudden you're 12 and it starts coming on like a storm.
00:22:45.000No, Kellogg's brand flakes were not created to stop kids from getting horny.
00:22:48.000But the broader Kellogg's cereal story is tied to some very weird anti-sex ideas from the 19th and 20th century.
00:22:55.000Kellogg's brand flakes were introduced in 1915 as a high-fiber breakfast cereal market as a health food, aid, digest, and promote better for you breakfasts.
00:23:05.000John Harvey Kellogg, a physician and Seventh-day Adventist, there it is, did believe that bland, plain diets, especially cereal and nuts, could help reduce sexual desire and masturbation.
00:23:16.000And he pushed those ideas at his sanitarium.
00:23:18.000So what the fuck is the, no, it's a myth.
00:23:55.000And back then, cereal was pretty much just for kids.
00:23:56.000You can already assume that it's going to be targeted at kids.
00:23:59.000These beliefs are most closely associated with early flake cereals like cornflakes and his general biological living health philosophy, not with bran flakes.
00:24:10.000It is fair to say that some of Kellogg's early cereal experiments were influenced by his belief that plain foods could encourage sexual restraint.
00:26:00.000He's in like a very serious situation.
00:26:02.000And his body constricts so heavily that his arteries fucking close up and he has heart attacks.
00:26:09.000So what is the difference between, because I'm all about good stress on your body, like exposing yourself to good stress and then bad stress.
00:26:18.000Your body knows the difference, right?
00:26:20.000Bad stress is going to be like the cortisol and then good stress.
00:27:21.000A plant compound formed when you chew or chop broccoli sprouts, which activates an enzyme that converts a precursor called glucoraphanin into sulfuraphane.
00:27:33.000Broccoli sprouts have far higher levels of glucorafanin glucorafanin in mature than mature broccoli, which is why they are such a concentrated source of sulfuraphane.
00:27:55.000Plants are intelligent in some sort of a weird way.
00:27:58.000And one of the things they found is that if, like, say if a giraffe is eating certain bushes and they're eating them upwind, and so the wind comes down and the other plants recognize that they're being consumed, and so they change their chemical profile to make them disgusting.
00:28:57.000It is like, you know, after having, being pregnant, I kind of just surrendered to being like, what if I just ate what I craved?
00:29:06.000Like, let me just let my body wisdom or whatever, like kind of go, you know, and it was sourdough bread, not regular bread, just sourdough, which I wonder if that's allowed on the pyramid.
00:29:34.000That is a Texas bitch, like through and through.
00:29:37.000Carnivore diet advocates often argue that many common plant compounds are toxic or anti-nutrients that harm digestion hormones and or nutrient absorption.
00:29:49.000Carnivore influence usually group these under umbrella.
00:29:51.000Anti-nutrients or plant defense chemicals.
00:30:41.000Phytic acid, grains, legumes, and nuts, criticized for binding materials and reducing their absorption, tannins or other polyphenols described by some meat advocates as additional plant defenses that can inhibit nutrient absorption or act as pro-oxidants.
00:31:00.000But one of the things that I've heard from people that are pretty knowledgeable is that the issue might not be the actual plants itself.
00:32:47.000But I think it also loosens you up and makes you happy, which is better for you than being sad, depending on where you are, right?
00:32:54.000So if you were with a group of people, like you and I and a bunch of friends went out to dinner, we all had wine, we're laughing our asses off, that would probably be really good for you.
00:33:01.000And it removes a little bit of the ability to, and that was always my thing.
00:33:04.000Like I don't, I'm three, three and a half years off pretty much anything.
00:33:13.000But, you know, I think with at least I'll just speak for myself, my brain, a glass of wine, I'm just able to be present without going, is this a good joke?
00:33:22.000It just takes off that like sort of like interior anthropologist narrative that is like, I always have to be categorizing things and filing things as jokes or cross-referencing things and you know, filing things away for future stand-up.
00:33:41.000And when you hear something that's like, oh, that'd be such a good premise, it's like, oh, you know, sometimes I'll just like do what you do.
00:33:47.000I'll put it in notes to just file it away just so that I'm not thinking about it so much.
00:33:50.000But that's the only thing that keeps me sane.
00:33:52.000Because if I don't do that, if I don't, it's going to get away from me.
00:34:47.000But, and that's the other thing that I think having a kid gave me that I didn't even know was possible, which is what I thought like weed or, you know, a glass of wine or whatever before was I've always just been trying to figure out how to get present, like be in the present moment, you know?
00:35:02.000Which, by the way, is there a biological basis for being in the present moment?
00:35:05.000Probably it's probably, you know, was a detriment back in the day.
00:35:10.000You wanted to be like two stabs ahead, or this is what just happened.
00:37:46.000I think, you know, we're in this weird transitionary period where we have a new technology and that allows everyone to have a voice.
00:37:53.000And I think overall, it's very good because you have more voices.
00:37:57.000And it's just people have to discern what's a valuable voice and what's not.
00:38:01.000And, you know, that's where I tell people, don't read the fucking comments.
00:38:05.000It's not good for you because you're getting too many non-valuable voices.
00:38:09.000And if you've done a good job of curating your environment and curating your friend group, you've eliminated all these people that are really shitty and bitter and jealous and nasty.
00:38:20.000And also, like, have no ability to look at themselves.
00:40:30.000So I'm making my will, which as soon as you have a kid, they're like, make a will or else your craziest family member is going to like get your son, you know?
00:44:39.000Coliseum animal fights did not clearly drive any species to global extinction, but they did help wipe out or severely reduce some regional populations and subspecies.
00:44:50.000Beast hunts killed animals on a huge scale.
00:44:52.000Ancient sources describe thousands of animals killed in single festivals and tens of thousands over imperial reigns.
00:44:59.000Modern historians argue that this sustained demand contributed to local or regional disappearances, especially when combined with hunting, habitat loss, and warfare.
00:45:09.000Well, that, like, just what they did in America with market hunting, they almost wiped out everything in America because no one had ice, right?
00:45:34.000Just the Roman Coliseum thing, because I think that my brain always does, whenever it's like, can you believe people in the comments are trashing Sabrina Carp or whatever?
00:45:42.000It's like, yeah, people used to go watch, you know, people have their limbs torn apart by lions and sit there and like cheer and suggest they would yell out how to kill people like that.
00:45:53.000You know, they would go watch at the town square people get hanged.
00:46:48.000You're working for some oil company and you know they're doing something evil.
00:46:51.000No, you can't, you can't have completely anonymous.
00:46:56.000I mean, you can't have only like recognized accounts where you know the exact person who's posting things because sometimes you need to have anonymous sources.
00:47:06.000But also, it's, you know, essentially, like I'm always interested in, you know, finding the like equanimous real-life version of something digital.
00:47:16.000So it's like negative things in the comment section.
00:47:18.000That's like being in a football game and someone being like, Tom Brady, you suck.
00:47:42.000People, I mean, and also think about what it would take for you to stop and leave a shitty comment.
00:47:46.000You would have to be in such a dark, dark place to like need to just throw a stray at someone.
00:47:52.000And like, I like to think of it as like a weird service.
00:47:55.000And maybe this is just me trying to like sublimate it into something positive because being a female comedian on the internet, it's like pretty wild.
00:48:00.000And it's like I signed up to make people happy or make people laugh or give people some kind of escape from their life.
00:48:08.000And if you hating me or saying some mean shit gives you like a hit of like, great.
00:48:13.000I don't think I came into comedy being like, everyone has to love me.
00:49:11.000It's interesting when that kind of thing.
00:49:13.000I think that as a comic, like it's, you know, and you do something sort of different here, but I never, you know, to take a side just feels so weird.
00:49:23.000It just feels so bizarre because I think it's really our job to be able to defend the indefensible, just even as an exercise and to, you know, to be able to deeply believe that two things can be true at once.
00:49:33.000I think it's the opposite of what wokeys do with animals.
00:49:37.000So with wokeys, with animals, they're like, adopt, don't shop.
00:49:42.000I think with your ideas, you should shop around.
00:53:44.000I mean, there's a point where you're kind of like, my brain goes, like, when there's nothing you can do about it, you're like, what do I do?
00:55:41.000Like, what they're doing is stealing money from people that decided they were going to donate money because they thought it was a worthy cause, and it wasn't a worthy cause.
00:55:49.000And also, when those fires happened, the idea that it was like, donate, it's like, well, you were just in a fire zone too.
00:55:55.000We pay enough taxes in California to not have to have charities to donate to fire victims.
00:56:12.000And when you find out where the money actually goes, that's when it becomes a scam when you find out that the vast amount.
00:56:18.000Like, if you have $100 million that gets donated to a legitimate charity, it's very likely that only 30% or less is going to the actual cause.
00:56:27.000And that person doesn't pay taxes on top of that because the charity is a tax write-off.
00:56:31.000So my taxes aren't going to pay for that cause.
00:56:34.000And then you're not paying taxes anyway.
00:56:35.000And then I have to give you extra money.
00:56:37.000It's just like, it's just such an charity culture is just such a bizarre.
00:56:40.000Does every country have this charity culture?
01:04:56.000There's also like, there's these fake scams where there was one that they uncovered in Minnesota where they were supposedly feeding an exorbitant amount of children and there was no kids.
01:05:07.000No one was going there, but they were saying they were feeding like 5,000 people a day.
01:05:37.000When you were almost the vice president of the United States, you know, how many people came at me?
01:05:41.000People that I'm like, thought I was friends with, like acquaintances, more maybe, but I now realize they were acquaintances.
01:05:47.000When I made fun of Tim Walz for going to China so many times, like, which let me not get this wrong.
01:05:52.000It's definitely more than 10, more than 10 or something, that Tim Wallace just like went to China to go, like, which is, you know, if you're going to have gone to China that many times and then run to be the vice president, why wouldn't you, why would you hide it?
01:06:05.000Number one, why wouldn't you lead with it as like this is one of our enemies?
01:06:49.000I took kids there so they could learn Mandarin because they're going to have to interface with China later during business.
01:06:54.000Like it was just like this thing where it's when someone else tries to hide something, something that I wouldn't have thought was untoward.
01:08:11.000I mean, it's, it's, you know, I guess also the other question is when all this is going on, I'm like, do I focus on this or like, are we going to war?
01:08:31.000And then once you click on something, they're just going to keep feeding you more and more of that.
01:08:35.000And I'm sort of like, is this as big of a story as my algorithm is telling me it is?
01:08:39.000Because I remember, you know, and this is, I think, why it's like more important than ever to be on stage as much as possible to just corroborate like a premise to make sure that everyone even is aware of it, given our little echo chambers and stuff.
01:08:52.000But remember when, remember when Kamala Harris was like giving speeches that it kind of seemed like she was shitfaced.
01:08:58.000Like it just, it sort of seemed like she was like slurring words or something.
01:09:02.000Those were, you know, that would come.
01:09:04.000And I was like doing this joke about it before the election that was like, you know, like maybe this is what we need.
01:09:09.000Like what's scarier than a, you know, alcoholic woman with no kids, you know?
01:09:15.000Like she can just be calling up like Putin in the middle of the night like, hey, fat.
01:09:19.000Like she's just, you know, and I was doing it.
01:10:06.000And, you know, it's also, I think that there used to, there was this old way of doing things where you could say the same thing on every platform and no one would cut it all together.
01:10:49.000For sure, that money didn't just stay in the community.
01:10:53.000Especially if they didn't have the ability to organize this and develop this scam, someone else helped them, and those people were getting money from it.
01:12:12.000Transportation Security Administration flagged nearly $700 million in cash detected in passengers' luggage leaving the Minneapolis airport in the last two years.
01:12:44.000Some of these were a million dollars, and it says that they were legally declared every time they did it.
01:12:48.000Right, but you could legally declare it if it was cleared by whoever the fuck is involved in this fraud, right?
01:12:55.000So if you're donating $35 million last year, just last year in 2025 to Democratic politicians from these Somali daycares, which I believe is true.
01:13:05.000I was trying to look that up and couldn't find out that.
01:13:07.000Bundles of cash and luggage, some as much as a million dollars in a single trip raised suspicions.
01:16:28.000So that's another way that you can distribute propaganda.
01:16:32.000You have one source, and then you send that source out, and a bunch of other people repeat it and said, as reported by this one website, and that one website might be bullshit.
01:16:41.000I also like to look at the ads that are on the surrounding article.
01:18:50.000Okay, and accommodate a little over 100 people with typical published figures ranging from about 108 mission crew up to roughly 111 to 112, total passengers, total personnel, including flight crew and staff, and official media descriptions, usually summarized as seating for around 110 people.
01:19:43.000It can theoretically remain airborne for several days, limited mainly by crew fatigue and maintenance needs rather than fuel.
01:19:50.000Multiple sources describe realistic endurance of roughly three to seven days of continuous flight under sustained operations when supported by tankers and rotation of crew.
01:20:30.000Also, I don't, I mean, I know we were talking about the Delta extraction, and like, I would never want to.
01:20:39.000I mean, watching the video of the Delta extraction, how they of Maduro, they built like a replica of the building and were blindfolded, like going through it, you know, practicing it and stuff.
01:20:50.000But it, it, I was talking to your guy when we were coming over.
01:20:54.000It could have been pre-negotiated, right?
01:20:57.000There is a chance that that could have been pre-negotiated.
01:21:15.000One of the funny ones was somebody posted on Twitter a photograph of this woman and her children, and the journalist said, this woman and her children, her husband and their father was killed in the U.S. raid in Venezuela.
01:25:03.000Like when I'm, you know, having a kid, you know, the way that it changes you, but like the things you focus on, the things you're obsessed with that keep you up at night.
01:25:10.000Like before I had a kid, it was like, is he going to text me back?
01:25:12.000Now I'm like obsessed with like finite resources.
01:26:43.000United States initially tried to mediate between Britain and Iran during the 1951 nationalization crisis, but then moved to help overturn Iran's elected government to reverse the consequences of the nationalization.
01:27:06.000I'm going to leave you out on a cliff on this.
01:27:08.000whose rise had been closely tied to the nationalization of Iranian oil.
01:27:12.000In March 1951, Iran's parliament voted to nationalize the assets of British-owned Anglo-Iranian oil company, responding to long-standing grievances over low royalties and foreign control.
01:27:27.000Nationalist leader became prime minister soon after and made implementation of nationalization central to his program.
01:27:35.000So under President Truman, the U.S. generally opposed the idea of full nationalization in principle, but did not want Iran pushed to the collapse or move toward the Soviet Union.
01:27:44.000Washington sent envoys such as, oh, so they wanted to keep it away from the Soviet Union, so they turned it into his Islamic regime.
01:27:51.000George McGee and W. Avril Harriman to seek a compromise that would preserve Western access to oil while accepting some changes to the existing concession.
01:28:02.000Couped reversal in 53 under President Eisenhower, U.S. Central Intelligence Agency working, there it is, working with Britain's MI6, carried out Operation Ajax covert operation to overthrow whatever you say his name is, Masadeya.
01:28:21.000The coup removed the government most associated with oil nationalization and paved the way in 1954 for an international oil consortium in which five major U.S. oil companies, along with British and other firms, gained significant stakes in Iranian oil, ending exclusive British control.
01:28:41.000There was this TV show on, I think, National Geographic, I want to say, called A Little Light or a Small Light that was about what was going on with, you know, in the Holocaust.
01:29:06.000Like to go from the 70s of like the women out in bathing suits on the to like there's women that were, you know, that had enjoyed the freedom and then all of a sudden had to, like, it's just so fascinating that like how gradual it is.
01:29:47.000I mean, it's, you know, you know me and my horse thing, but it's so disgusting.
01:29:54.000And, you know, the amount, it's like nobody knows how many elephants kill their trainers a year and how many, you know, all kinds of crazy.
01:30:00.000We saw the orca kill the trainer, you know, but stuff like that happens so often and they just cover it up.
01:30:04.000But the amount of carriage horses, a couple of them got out, and we've seen them get out and we've seen them collapse and all this horrific stuff.
01:30:11.000And something else is going on with it, which is, and look, I'm the first person to say, like, New York was really safe when the mafia was, you know, kind of like there's that documentary about how they would sort of protect people in the subways and you sort of would fill in where the government couldn't.
01:30:28.000But there's something going on with the horse carriage business.
01:32:49.000The federal government prints money to provide housing, jack up interest rates, jack up the fucking debt, print money to provide housing, and everyone pays 30% for housing.
01:33:02.000First of all, why are you talking to me in a hoodie?
01:33:07.000What, like, what mental illness is that?
01:33:46.000And one specifically she said that was going to really impact white people.
01:33:51.000What is fascinating about that is that because I think she believes she's coming from the moral high ground, I think this is what's really sort of someone who I feel like is similar to you.
01:34:28.000The hypocrisy of it got, and I think that as comics, we're people who, you know, I may not be an expert in politics, but I'm an expert on hypocrisy.
01:34:37.000When you grow up around alcoholics who say, I love you, and then their behaviors in Congress, you study, you look for patterns of hypocrisy.
01:35:03.000And then, you know, we believe in climate change and sea is rising, but we live on the coast.
01:35:07.000Like, would you buy a house on the beach if you truly believed that the seas, you know, we believe in recycling, but why can't you give Andrew Yang another shot?
01:35:15.000Like, why won't you give, where did Betto go?
01:35:29.000Like, when you have these blanket progressive ideas, you've attached yourself to an ideology, and that ideology you'll defend because it's your identity.
01:35:39.000But didn't he, he at least seemed, you know, I didn't know that much about what, from what I knew, he made a joke about his wife taking care of the kids, you know, and the left was like, you're sexist.
01:35:50.000It was like, this, but what I saw with her was this idea of I'm so moral that I don't even have to make a good argument.
01:35:58.000And the left started, stopped making an argument or even outlining what they're just saying.
01:36:04.000Well, no, I'm moral and I'm better than you and I don't have to even make an argument.
01:36:07.000Well, that, I mean, I don't know when she gave that interview.
01:36:10.000So let's suppose she gave that interview a long time ago before she had this job and she was just saying, this is what ideally I would like.
01:37:21.000The thing about New York, and maybe this is, you know, and I don't, I don't even know what's, you know, side anything an idea makes anybody on anymore.
01:37:30.000Sometimes I'll say someone and people will be like, oh, so you're like alt-left.
01:37:45.000If you don't have, you can't, I remember one time going to Howard Stern's house and Howard Stern is, he's got more money than, and it was like still in, he was able to get two, buy two floors of a, but it's still like an apartment.
01:38:35.000And, you know, I had a place there for like a year.
01:38:38.000I remember I was in like Chelsea area.
01:38:40.000And because I just want to go back and forth.
01:38:42.000I was like, there's something about New York that does really put a fire under your ass.
01:38:46.000Like I remember, you know, actually it was dice back in the day.
01:38:51.000I used to just ask comics, like, you know, because you're just, you're a nobody and you're just starting and you're in the hallway with a legend.
01:39:49.000But also, it's like if you're not, you know, that's why I go to the grocery store.
01:39:52.000I got, you know, not that I, you know, wouldn't, but like, I, you got to make sure that you're still in the trenches and that you still don't, you don't make your life so easy that you're not disassociated.
01:40:02.000You're not disconnected from the outside world.
01:40:04.000And just atrophied, like, and less resilient and, you know, and, you know, so what am I talking about?
01:40:41.000Because I also was like touring so much that I would go, okay, if I'm going to be in, you know, Florida at the end of, you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I should just go to New York because then I'm going to North Carolina that Thursday anyway.
01:40:52.000I was just like doing clubs to work on the new hour.
01:41:18.000And I remember like every time I would turn on the bathtub, the toilet would, the effluvium from the toilet would come through the bathtub.
01:42:42.000I mean, there's things that are artificial value, like art and stuff like that, but land is a- What's probably going to do is it's probably going to lead to some sort of a Republican government there.
01:42:52.000They're probably going to be a lot of backlash.
01:42:54.000People are probably going to organize, probably going to realize that you can't have communism, and that it'll swing the other way.
01:43:01.000Because everyone's kind of leaving, right?
01:43:02.000All the people with money are leaving New York.
01:43:22.000The thing is, it's like you can't just tax your way out of problems because we know that that money goes and it's grossly inefficient what they do with it.
01:43:31.000The government is not good at using your money.
01:45:00.000She was released from Rikers on May 3rd.
01:45:02.000Since then, she's been charged with at least two more thefts, including one in which she allegedly snuck into a Columbia University building and slugged a security guard.
01:49:49.000People that work around toxic chemicals, I was reading this thing about women that clean, that women that work with cleaning solvents all day, you get lung cancer.
01:49:58.000And it's like they're smoking three packs a day.
01:51:17.000Also, by the way, everyone I know with kids, like they're, and I'll be exaggerating a little bit, but their kids are getting glasses so young and having eye stuff so young.
01:51:27.000They're staring at screens all the time.
01:51:29.000You know, one of the things that you're supposed to do is if you're staring at something like really close to your face all the time, you should take breaks and look at things that are far away.
01:51:38.000Because otherwise, I guess your cornea reshapes and like your eyes literally become more accustomed to trying to look at things closer.
01:51:50.000I try to do the blue light glasses as much as I can.
01:51:53.000The amount of glasses and lights I have in my house right now.
01:51:56.000It looks like a fucking chemistry studio.
01:51:58.000But yes, I got, so I do red light on my skin.
01:52:01.000And because I was like, you know, look, the Botox thing is like TV executive ages ago when I was truly like in my 20s, the way they sell you on Botox is they say it's preventative.
01:56:39.000I mean, it's interesting because they've, you know, not to like talk about TV dorkery, but I know a lot of them were friends with a lot of them, but like there was a little bit of like a elitism.
01:56:49.000I think it's part of what made TV start becoming kind of irrelevant is these sort of like elite writers from Harvard who don't necessarily have a, you know, I think that the best comedy, everyone can see themselves in it, or it's about something that we can all kind of relate to on some level.
01:57:04.000That's all these sort of kids going to a, you know, $70,000 a year elite school making shows like The Office and show, you know, these comedies that, you know, you know, look, like, it's, it's, a lot of my friends worked on the office.
02:00:20.000That is, I mean, it is interesting that today for a guy to become a gynecologist.
02:00:24.000I know it was like the only way, you know, only men could be back in the day, but now for a guy to be like, I'm in med school to be a gynecologist.
02:01:52.000That was another thing that hoes would do back in the day.
02:01:55.000Remember, they would just paint their tits and you can kind of go out in public with pain on your tits like on New Year's Eve and stuff like that?
02:03:00.000I mean, when I don't have, when I don't have deodorant on and I like work out and I hang out all day, and I'll smell myself and get disgusted.
02:03:35.000But isn't there something about like smelly, if someone smells bad?
02:03:39.000Like your wife, your BO probably smells good to her.
02:03:42.000Huberman actually talked about this when he was on my podcast back in the day about like if someone doesn't smell good to you, it means you're probably related.
02:07:12.000I just sent Andrew Schultz a clip that I'll cry if I talk about because he was posting something about like a daughter asking his her or a gymnast who the daughter was getting attached and wouldn't let her go to the routine.
02:08:24.000But it's like, I think he posted something about, you know, when like runners don't finish the race and the dad comes out and like helps him cross the finish line or something.
02:09:00.000And I think that what you're going for is it's almost like this gambling addiction in a way because it's like, even when your team loses, you're all losing together.
02:09:08.000And it's, you know, you get to feel like you're a part of something.
02:09:10.000There's so much like, you know, reptilian sort of hardwiring at play.
02:09:15.000But for me, it's like about these goosebumps moments that you can't have every game that would take the value out of them.
02:09:21.000Like this past season when have you been, I don't know if you're a football guy, Jamie, but Philip Rivers coming back to the Colts.
02:09:27.000And him coming out of retirement, two major players came out of retirement this year that were like coaching.
02:09:33.000They were done coaching their kids little league in high school.
02:09:37.000Phillip Rivers was just coaching, you know, what a 45, 44, 45 years old.
02:09:41.000There's a fun caveat with that too, but tell me.
02:12:05.000You know, when you also just moments like what Saquon Barkley did last year, like jumping backwards over, like there's a video of his teammates watching him do it going, fuck that.
02:12:15.000Like it's just, I love watching the interplay between the team members too.
02:12:42.000Also, but I think the we of it also happens to, you know, the reason I think as live performers, when you see a team like the Eagles do so, so well, and then that's the last time they played the Rams just fall apart.
02:12:54.000You're like, what, just per what we were talking about with Fear Factor and what you're capable of when you're on TV, when you've been insulted, when your ego's been, when you're in front of your kid.
02:13:10.000I will fucking fuck this rat in the ass to, you know, whatever I need to do.
02:13:13.000Or if money's involved, I'm obsessed with sort of like the, you know, the most dangerous team to me is always the one that hasn't won any games.
02:13:19.000That's the most dangerous fighter is the one that needs money.
02:14:15.000But it was a part of like the whole thing of it was that you were watching all this chaos and then you're dealing with the psychological aspect of each guy talking shit to each other.
02:14:26.000And it's also like refers to as Jim's notoriously grueling sparring sessions, known for intense no rules fighting until someone quits, designed to push boxers to their absolute limits.
02:14:38.000I mean, it's not a mystery why he's one of the absolute greatest people.
02:15:02.000And so he was breaking his hands like multiple times.
02:15:05.000And so then he became Money Mayweather and just started boxing everybody's face off.
02:15:09.000And like if you go back and watch some of his early knockouts, also he wasn't certainly facing the caliber of fighters he faced as a champion.
02:15:16.000But he's the best ever at not getting hit.
02:15:20.000That guy's been cracked maybe like three or four times in his entire professional career, which is wild.
02:15:30.000And is his ability to not get hit, is that from outworking everyone or something genetic?
02:16:44.000Is boxing like, and not to compliment what we do in any, this might sound insulting to athletes, but like, is it similar in a way to comedy in that there's certain things like you can't really teach?
02:18:25.000He was a freak and also extremely intelligent, crafty, set you up, knew what to do to get you to move this way, and then you're moving that way.
02:18:35.000And then he's doing things you can't do, so you don't anticipate that someone's going to be able to leap in from there and catch you with an uppercut.
02:18:42.000You don't even understand how it happened.
02:18:45.000He's the only guy in the history of, I believe, CompuBox.
02:19:13.000All of his fights were essentially executions.
02:19:16.000He went from 168, he won the world title at 168, went up to light heavyweight, won the world title at light heavyweight, went up to heavyweight, won the world title at heavyweight.
02:19:27.000He was a fucking middleweight in the Olympics.
02:19:29.000That looks like, remember the video of Putin doing like Kung Fu or Taekwondo and they're pretending to fall?
02:20:40.000Guys get dropped all the time with a left hook to the body.
02:20:43.000He hit him with a right hook to the body and stopped him.
02:20:46.000I always get obsessed with like as like as comedians, the more comedy there is and has been, the more original we have to be.
02:20:52.000You know, I'm always fascinated by like, you know, you know, fighting or sports, like, you know, a football, for example, like, you know, Go Barrett, the Eagles doing the tush push.
02:20:59.000It's like everyone had to start studying that and this thing that worked, now everyone knows you do it.
02:21:04.000So now, you know, it's fascinating to me when a fighter's so good at one thing, everyone starts learning to defend that.
02:21:09.000And then, you know, because it used to be like you could just fight and people saw the fight once and that was it.
02:21:14.000That's where Roy had the advantage over everyone else.
02:21:17.000There was no internet back when Roy was on top.
02:21:19.000So the thing about the internet now is any kid with, you know, limited resources can study all the greatest boxers of all time.
02:21:26.000So Mike Tyson, when he was young, one of the great advantages that he had was Jim Jacobs was his manager.
02:21:31.000And Jim Jacobs was a legitimate boxing historian who he carried these tapes in old films of everyone.
02:21:42.000He was watching Sandy Sadler, all these Willie Pep, all these like Rocky Marciano, Jack Johnson, all the great champions of history on film.
02:22:04.000And he would sit there and watch everybody fight.
02:22:06.000So he had this massive advantage of seeing all these incredible fighters.
02:22:10.000Like he mirrored his style a lot around a bunch of different ones, but one of them in particular was Jack Dempsey, who was like one of this most, I mean, I think Dempsey was the champion.
02:22:21.000And I'm trying to figure out what year this was where Jack Dempsey was the heavyweight champion.
02:27:21.000Because they all came, their grandparents came over on a fucking boat.
02:27:24.000All their ancestors had toxoplasmosis or whatever it was, and were just like, I'd rather.
02:27:29.000Yeah, I'd rather die and have frostbite and warm my frostbitten fingers in my wife's carcass, leprosy carcass, than not be able to worship who I want or say what I want.
02:29:12.000It's like somebody does something nice for you because they want to, it's so much better than if you have to ask them and they don't want to do it, but they concede to doing it.
02:31:45.000And when I did quit, I was, I was, it was, I was like, okay, now I know that if I don't get my shit together and figure something out in life, that that could be the best paying job that I can get.
02:31:58.000That whatever I got, that I mean, it probably wasn't even 20 bucks an hour.
02:32:30.000And don't they say that like LED lights are actually not good for you now?
02:32:34.000But just like sitting at a desk that is, you know, you don't have standing desk, you don't have one of these whatever sibians or whatever I'm sitting on.
02:32:40.000And you're like, I mean, people just sending emails all day.
02:32:43.000Like, is it definitely bad for your back?
02:32:45.000It's tightened my lower back considerably.
02:32:49.000I think a big part of it is sitting like this all the time.
02:32:52.000So I'm super conscious about it now where I do a lot more lower back exercises than I ever used to do before.
02:32:57.000But you, I got that machine you told me to get where you lift your back.
02:33:02.000Louis Simmons, who was a legend in powerlifting, he invented that because he crushed his discs and they told him that he had to get his discs fused.
02:33:47.000You put a belt around your waist, and then the cable goes down in between your legs, and you're standing on a platform, and there's a stack of weights behind you.
02:33:56.000So instead of doing squats, which are one of the best exercises of all time, but the problem with squats is if you're squatting heavy, you've got all that weight on your back.
02:34:07.000Okay, it's all your if you've got like 400 pounds, you're squatting, if you're a beast and you're fucking, you've got 400 pounds trying to crush all your discs.
02:34:17.000And the only thing that's keeping that from happening is your strength.
02:34:19.000All your fucking core muscles and your spine muscles.
02:34:22.000But you're compressing everything with that weight.
02:36:47.000But yeah, they take it every now and then.
02:36:49.000But I kind of have just tried to wear it like kind of all the time.
02:36:52.000And then I'll do whenever I'm writing.
02:36:53.000Like if I am sitting down, I'm going like, I have to make sure that this sitting down, which is so bad for me, there's something else happening.
02:36:59.000So Huberman gave me the, it's called, it's a red light, but it's like sauna space or space.
02:37:04.000It's just a bulb, one big red light bulb.
02:37:07.000That's the same as the, like the juve or something that's like a bunch of little red lights.
02:38:42.000I, as a, as an aspiring snake oil salesman, like, I, you know, I remember I was with a friend of mine who's a big like lawyer in LA and we're kind of more friends that he worked with prior and he just got all these stories.
02:38:59.000And, you know, we were outside and there were like mosquitoes and I had this like citronella candle, you know, and I was like, oh, let me light the candle.
02:39:05.000So the mosquitoes, and he's like, those don't work.
02:39:57.000And the more you talk and the more you complain, the more they'll ask you back.
02:40:02.000So I'm not going to say these big companies that I did stuff for, but like, you know, everything from food to skincare to, I mean, I did a lot of pharmaceutical trials at colleges that like the pill never came out.
02:41:52.000You know, so studies, I'm always a little bit like, and who, what person, like the thing that gets thrown around a lot, I had a boy and people always want to throw around like girls mature faster.
02:42:03.000It's like, it makes sense, but you're like, who put me in a cage with the guy that wanted to study boys and girls maturing?
02:42:12.000What do you like like you were watching girls and boys mature?
02:42:45.000It seems like their minds develop faster.
02:42:47.000They believe their frontal lobe is fully formed quicker.
02:42:51.000With boys, I think it takes till they're 25 until your frontal lobe is fully formed.
02:42:55.000It's probably testosterone, which is like some, probably some kind of mental poison, which is probably why people associate testosterone with shitty behavior, right?
02:43:04.000Because there's probably part of it at least that's like a little bit toxic.
02:43:07.000They said boys should be moving when they're learning.
02:43:09.000Yeah, well, they also need to blow it out.
02:43:14.000So if you're not playing football or wrestling or doing something that's really hard to do, you're at this weird stage of your life where you used to be a child.
02:43:24.000And then all of a sudden you start getting testosterone.
02:44:04.000Do you think I want to go back to that in a second or don't have to?
02:44:07.000But I was just going to say this is why it's probably important because it's always associated with dumb people.
02:44:13.000And there's probably some accuracy to that because the people that I know that have been the most brilliant scientists, except for Huberman, there are a lot of them are very low testosterone males.
02:45:47.000I'm sort of more interested in like wisdom, especially also when you've been around long enough and you've seen things you found to be true be completely debunked.
02:45:53.000Like remember when we all thought soy milk was healthy and now half my guy friends have tits and my girlfriend's tits all got cut off.
02:46:21.000Like that's what, like, did you have, I had a mural in my school of the Native Americans and the pilgrims like having dinner, like having a great time.
02:46:29.000Like, I feel like that's not how it went down.
02:46:31.000You know, so when enough things get sort of debunked, but this quote I loved, which is, um, intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
02:46:37.000Wisdom is knowing not to put it in the fruit salad.
02:47:11.000It's just not a recognized part of intelligence for people that are absorbed with all the other pursuits.
02:47:15.000People that are really heavily absorbed with mathematics would never think that like endurance running is a mental pursuit, but it might be all mental.
02:47:58.000But the definition, yeah, what does intelligence mean?
02:48:00.000Does it mean memorizing a bunch of stuff from a book that like, was it, weren't our textbooks written by like Ghelane Maxwell's dad or something?
02:48:10.000Like, I is that it's without going too far.
02:48:15.000He did do something about consolidating a bunch of medical journals, the textbook thing, maybe.
02:48:22.000There was a history textbook that was like, and, you know, so memorizing a bunch of stuff that like may or may not be true, like that's not intelligence necessarily.
02:48:50.000Here's another weird thing that you said something that football is all math.
02:48:54.000There is this really weird thing that I was reading about the invention of mathematics.
02:48:59.000And they were talking about one of the most, the biggest conundrums in the universe is that they invent this thing, humans invent this thing to try to solve the universe.
02:49:10.000And they find out that the universe is encoded with it.
02:49:13.000It's just like the turtle shell is the calendar.
02:49:55.000Humans invented that so that they could figure out how the universe is made.
02:49:59.000Like what is the structure of things, how to measure things.
02:50:03.000But the universe itself is encoded with this.
02:50:06.000It's like it is made out of the thing that we invented to try to figure out my adjacent tangent while Jamie looks up whatever that is, because I can't really respond to it except with this sort of realization that all the movies that current tech entrepreneurs, or Benjamin Franklins of our day, grew up on, science fiction movies, in many ways formed what they believe a future should look like.
02:50:52.000It's going to do the Roy Jones Jr. of tech, and it's going to do it in a way that we could have never possibly thought that it would control us in that manner.
02:51:00.000And then it would just govern us and probably limit our breeding.
02:51:19.000Because I think it's going to say you can't keep doing the same thing over and over and over again and expect a different result.
02:51:27.000You're talking about war and stealing money and embezzlement and fraud and the amount of money that's in politics and Congress and the amount of politicians that lie.
02:51:38.000You've been doing it this way forever.
02:52:14.000So you think AI would have a concept of like fairness and would go, everyone should have a certain amount of happiness.
02:52:20.000Or would AI go, well, this is how things have always been?
02:52:23.000It would recognize that human beings are so destructive and so often full of shit and manipulative and looking to just figure out a reason or a way that they can sneak something through or make something happen or overthrow a government.
02:52:41.000AI is going to go, you can't do it that way.
02:52:43.000We're not going to give you that kind of power anymore because you guys are abusive every single time you get a lot of power.
02:52:48.000But then it's going to be like, okay, what do the people do now?
02:52:51.000What if the people resort to violence?
02:52:52.000And then it's going to say, like, look, you can't have any more fucking kids.
02:53:05.000Of course, that's always where it ends.
02:53:07.000But because AI is based on an amalgam of all of us, by that very nature, wouldn't it mean that they would abuse their power once they get it?
02:53:15.000They're going to go, you abuse power, but because we do.
02:54:13.000He'd just go off the rails and think he was useless and think he could never win and just whatever fucking mental demons you battle when you're truly brilliant at something.
02:55:26.000If you want to fully cover a surface using tiles of a uniform shape and size while keeping the total length of the perimeter to a minimum, hexagons are a shape to use.
02:55:36.000Have you seen when someone tests if honey is real or not and they put honey on a plate and it just starts forming a hexagon?
02:56:48.000They don't just want to sting you for no reason.
02:56:49.000You had the bee lady, I think, on here.
02:56:51.000She DM'd me about something because I like, I'll get bees out of my pool all the time when they're like drowning, even though they do have the ability to make their wings go so fast that they can get out of the water when they go in circles.
02:57:02.000But I was like rescuing them from my pool and she was like, if a bee is out, that means they're a forager bee and they're going to die in a couple days anyway.
02:58:12.000Yeah, this is wild because the way they have to collect it, it grows on cliffsides.
02:58:16.000So these guys, they have to repel and risk their fucking life to get this honey that makes you trip balls because there's a special kind of flower, I guess, that has a psychedelic compound in it.
02:58:28.000And I don't know what that compound is.
03:01:55.000Okay, no full year total, exact full year total, publicly available from major sources as data through September shows rapid growth but lacks a December closeout.
03:02:07.000True Veta data reports 12,203,009 GLP1 prescriptions from January 2018 to September 2025.
03:02:23.000But I got to think that's way more today because in 2018, you're not getting a lot of people.
03:02:29.000Like I would like to see like a chart of when it kicks in.
03:02:32.000So it's 6.5% of all U.S. prescriptions up slightly from prior quarters.
03:02:37.000And when your insurance companies, they should theoretically support it and pay for it.
03:02:40.000Well, definitely if you're morbidly obese, it'll prevent you from a lot of real problems of morbid obesity if you really get it together with this shit.
03:02:48.000And then when there's a bunch of negative stuff about it, I'm like, did the lap band pay for this?
03:02:51.000Well, it's all, look, you can definitely have side effects.
03:02:54.000Like Brian Simpson took it and he had horrible side effects.
03:02:59.000But it also, there's a lot of people that took it and they lost 100 pounds and they're way healthier than they would be before.
03:03:05.000It's just like the way Brigham Bueller from Waste to Well described, he says like it has to be taken conjunction with other things that keep your body from wasting away.
03:03:28.000So there's an idea that they would combine them with, I think they did something with peptides with like an IGF-1 along with this and the two of them together keep you from wasting away.
03:03:38.000Yeah, I was doing like that metformin for a minute and I was like, yeah, you lose muscle mass, but you're like, but also the effect of sugar, like, you know, so now I'll just take it every now and then when I eat like a lot of pasta or I want to have like a, you know.
03:04:15.000Like, there's a point where you're just like, that person's an acquaintance, not a friend.
03:04:19.000Like, there's certain like, I feel like maybe it's when you become a mom, you have to also reassess like your emotional diet or your mental diet of like as well.
03:05:24.000And desperate people do desperate stuff.
03:05:26.000And I think that with what we do, like, you know, it's interesting because some friendships, you know, they'll just be like, oh, come on the podcast.
03:05:32.000And it's like, we haven't hung out, though, either.
03:05:40.000Such a big part of what you've done, like for comedy is like, you know, that green room and having a space that's like not on camera.
03:05:47.000Like comics, I think, started going so crazy during the pandemic, myself being one of them, because it's like all of our conversations were monetized and for public consumption.
03:05:54.000We stopped just hanging out off camera.
03:06:20.000If you have it and you have a bunch of friends and you get to hang out and have fun together, it's like, oh, it's like a like, it's like stepping into a well of love.
03:06:41.000You know, whether it's because they've, you know, incubated themselves against, you know, doing what normal people do on a daily basis and, you know, assistance.
03:06:56.000And they don't have someone humbling them constantly and pushing back and giving them shit.
03:07:01.000And all the motivations that got them to be funny when they were younger have been eliminated because almost all of it is try to get extra attention from girls or from your friends.
03:07:10.000You have no motivation to be funny anymore because everybody loves you and you're rich.
03:07:14.000And being a comic is a lot, I think, of like having almost intentional contrarian Tourette's where you'll just say some shit that like merry, it's a crazy premise.
03:07:24.000Like sometimes stand-up is like saying something that isn't true and then proving it, you know?
03:07:29.000And to say some and have someone fight back with you.
03:07:31.000That's why I think comics, when people are like, why do comics talk about woke culture so much?
03:07:35.000It's like, because we see disagreeing as an interesting conversation.
03:09:48.000And while you're finding that, I'm obsessed with CIA, the Philippines operation in the 50s, where they made it look like vampires sucked the blood of a bunch of the rebels.
03:10:16.000They threw water on a movement of people abandoning this path that they see their family on, their mother and their father, and they're not happy.
03:13:22.000They punctured his neck with two holes, vampire fashion, held the body up by its heels, drained it of blood, and then put the corpse back on the trail.
03:13:32.000When the Hucks returned looking for the missing man and found their bloodless comrade, every member of the patrol believed that the Aswang had got him and that one of them would be next if they remained on that hill.
03:13:43.000When daylight came, the whole Huck squadron moved out of the vicinity.
03:14:33.000It would be nothing but someone else researched it and said that it might not have even worked because they didn't have a vampire-like lore in the region.
03:14:41.000They had something else where they said that they fed on the business.
03:16:27.000Lansdale brags about an improvised bit of homemade voodoo he called the Eye of God.
03:16:31.000It was based on a World War II cywar tactic of learning the names of individual German officers and announcing on the battlefield over loudspeakers that they'd be the next to die if they didn't surrender.
03:17:35.000Well, I think this is the crazy part is that he was an adwiz for all these companies and then he volunteered to go to the army and they recognized his special talents.
03:17:44.000He's like, I'm not getting enough evil done working for Nabisco.
03:17:54.000This is fascinating because this is like, I've worked, I sell jeans that cost $10 for $80.
03:18:00.000Like, trust me, I know how to trick people.
03:18:03.000Like, it's so fascinating when you're like, people went from working in an ad agency to sell products to like convincing people vampires were real.
03:19:21.000What if we find out that Wi-Fi is making us less and less in tune with our life or less in tune with our environment or dulls a certain part of your brain?
03:19:30.000I think with or without the like beams harming us, the phone is doing that anyway, right?
03:19:36.000Has there been any long-term studies on sci-fi or excuse me, cell phone sci-fi, cell phone signals on their interference with things other than bees?
03:19:47.000Because I know they do interfere with bees.
03:20:43.000Yes, cell phone signals can affect bees, causing behavioral changes like increased agitation and worker piping, an alarm sound indicating disturbance.
03:20:53.000Those sensationalized claims linking them directly to mass colony collapse are not fully supported by science.
03:20:58.000Studies show bees are sensitive to the electromagnetic fields from active phones disrupting their normal communication and potentially leading to disorientation.
03:21:20.000And isn't all this stuff fairly recent?
03:21:22.000Yeah, I mean, there is, Jamie, you can find this, and I won't to corroborate it because I won't know the exact year, but T-Mobile had put aside like a lot of money for possible lawsuits with all this stuff.
03:21:34.000So I did the, I did, you know, I always have some weird side thing.
03:21:39.000When you made a documentary on violence.
03:22:56.000It's just like, I worry that we're moving in a direction where violence is team violence.
03:23:04.000Team violence like that leads to fucking war.
03:23:07.000Like individual violence is a one-on-one person.
03:23:10.000It's your skills against his skills, your mind against his mind, your will, how well you've prepared, the discipline you showed in training, your IQ in terms of fighting IQ.
03:23:23.000But when you see teams of dudes running at each other and fucking each other up like that, to me is like, what are you asking for?
03:23:32.000Okay, what are you getting people excited about?
03:23:34.000And what fascinates me about it is what we were talking about earlier with the AI and everything of like knowing what humans need in order to stay, whether it's satiated, you know, bridled in some way of like, if AI takes away all the hard things or whatever, like with a whack-a-mole of what are people going to start doing, you know, when they don't have, like, if AI is like, this is too crazy, you guys are fighting too much.
03:23:56.000It's like, but if we're born to kind of fight and need take track, that's why we're going to have to integrate.