00:01:53.000I would have some kind of weapon against Gene LaBelle.
00:01:56.000Well, most people that have never grappled a guy like that, you don't have any idea how helpless you actually are until you think, I'll be able to push him away from me.
00:02:05.000I'll be able to push him away and get some punches off.
00:02:07.000You really don't know until that guy grabs you, and it's like being grabbed by an orangutan.
00:02:11.000Yeah, because his mom ran the Grand Olympic Auditorium, right?
00:02:15.000And he grew up training with all the disciplines of fighters that came through there.
00:02:21.000Well, he definitely knew pretty much everything.
00:02:23.000He knew a lot, but, you know, obviously he's a judo specialist.
00:02:26.000But he's the guy who taught Bruce Lee about the importance of grappling.
00:02:29.000Yeah, because he worked with him on the Green Hornet.
00:02:32.000Yeah, I think he worked with him on that.
00:02:35.000But when he locked up with Bruce Lee, like Bruce Lee was like, oh, okay, I'm helpless.
00:02:40.000Like, apparently the story was that Gene picked him up and carried him around over his shoulder.
00:02:45.000And then Bruce Lee was like, okay, fuck this.
00:02:48.000Because Gene was a light, I think he was a light, heavyweight judo champion.
00:02:53.000So, I mean, he's probably at least 190 pounds.
00:02:56.000And, you know, Bruce Lee was a pretty small guy.
00:05:29.000So I was living next door to Antoine Fouqua in this duplex, the director.
00:05:35.000And he set me up with a casting director who got me a commercial agent.
00:05:39.000My friend John Lenson set me up writing articles for this magazine because he knew I wanted to write.
00:05:49.000And one of the articles turned into me testing self-defense equipment on myself.
00:05:55.000And a lot of different magazines wanted the article, but they didn't want anything to do with it because I was going to shoot myself in the chest with a bulletproof vest as the last thing.
00:06:06.000It's like stun gun, taser gun, pepper spray.
00:06:09.000And Jeff Tremaine, who now directs Jackass, he was the editor of Big Brother magazine, a skateboarding magazine owned by Larry Flint.
00:06:17.000And he goes, you can write it for us and I'll help you buy a couple of the things and the stun gun and the taser gun.
00:06:24.000And I took the money my mom gave me for Christmas and bought the cheapest bulletproof vest they had for the last thing.
00:06:30.000You don't want to skimp on a bulletproof vest.
00:06:59.000You become like a totally different person.
00:07:01.000It was like, I deal with a certain amount of overcoming fear or whatever when doing the stunts, but there was never any fear like you have a daughter on the way and you have to figure out how to support her.
00:09:10.000Because my friends are, the photographer on it saw his buddy die because he jumped off a hotel trying to hit a swimming pool and didn't hit that swimming pool.
00:11:02.000And they want to make you stop moving forever.
00:11:08.000But I've had, you know, I mean, like in the Jackass No. 2 when the rocket exploded, those were foot-long metal rods, and there was 12 of them.
00:11:17.000One blew out right next to my ribs, which would have been pitcher wrap on me.
00:11:24.000And one flew back 300 yards and split two of our art guys right between them.
00:16:11.000And then it was also about, I was going to do the ski jump, you know, the Olympic ski jump.
00:16:18.000And it was, they're like, you, we have too much footage.
00:16:26.000You can't, let's just not, you've already put yourself on the line so much you can't.
00:16:33.000And then it became like, well, I'm not, I didn't, I've decided not to because I felt like this big intervention, they had, it was like doomed.
00:16:45.000The stunt was doomed in my mind then that something negative was going to happen.
00:16:51.000So I ended up not doing the ski jump, but I did negotiate two more weeks of shooting out of them.
00:18:34.000At the end of Jackass Forever, I dressed up as a magician and I got obsessed with the idea of pranking an animal.
00:18:45.000I just wanted the thought of seeing the animal's reaction after the prank.
00:18:53.000And that kind of morphed into me dressing as a magician in a bull ring, doing the pouring the milk in the hat trick to get the bull's reaction.
00:19:06.000And apparently, the bull didn't think much of my trick because it, well, first of all, usually when you're working with a bull in a ring, there's a lot of soft dirt around, you know.
00:19:22.000And I got there that morning and it was just dirt, but no salt.
00:19:40.000So anyway, long story short, the ball, the bull hits me, and I, you usually, when a bull hits you, well, always they drop their head, right?
00:19:48.000So I always try to jump a split second before it hits me so I get above the bull as opposed to below the bull, which is never any fun.
00:20:02.000I jumped too early, so I jumped and then I start coming back down.
00:20:07.000Then the bull hits me and it flips me like I do like a one and a half flip, and the only thing that stops me is the back of the head, my back of my head hitting the concrete ground.
00:20:21.000And I got a concussion with the brain hemorrhage, a broken rib, and a broken wrist out of the deal.
00:21:38.000Do you ever feel any responsibility for how many people you inspire to do similar things?
00:21:45.000Well, I hope to just entertain them and not inspire them, but I can't, I don't have any control over that except for when I do things like this.
00:23:08.000So I just had an intracept procedure on my back about in early December.
00:23:15.000They go, the nerve and the vertebra, they go in and somehow use radio frequency heat to basically burn the nerve so it can't send the signal to your brain that it's hurt.
00:23:32.000Oh, so you just walk around hurt, but you don't feel like it.
00:23:58.000Like, there's a bunch of different, is it a herniated disc?
00:24:01.000Is it a yeah, but the lower two discs are herniated.
00:24:05.000And I had shots in the facet joints of my lower back is like they put some kind of steroid in there and it didn't give the result that I wanted.
00:24:20.000Have you ever heard of a machine called a reverse hyper?
00:24:23.000There's a machine that a guy named Louis Simmons, he was this legendary powerlifter guy.
00:24:29.000He developed because he had fucked his discs up powerlifting and the doctors told him that he needed to fuse his disc because they were compressed and he's like, well, can't we decompress him?
00:25:45.000They developed one called the Dex where you hinge from your waist.
00:25:50.000So you like get in this thing, you strap your legs in and you lean forward and it's like you're hanging from like that.
00:25:57.000So you're hanging from your hips, like all your weight is being like set on your thighs and your back carries all the weight and it just slowly like pop, pop, pop, it decompresses.
00:26:14.000I always tell everybody, if you have a back injury, you have back problems, that thing will help you a lot.
00:26:19.000Just do that for a few minutes every day and eventually, you know, slowly over time, it creates space and it alleviates some of the pinching and problems that people have, depending, of course, on the severity of your injury.
00:27:01.000And I sat down with her and I liked her so much because she seems like, how did a woman like you that is like awesome get a job as the head of you know?
00:27:26.000One of the problems that we had with Fear Factors, we did 148 episodes initially, and then we came back for a brief amount of time, but they wanted to really ramp it up.
00:27:38.000Like it was like these stunts are going to be bigger and crazier than ever.
00:27:41.000And I was relieved when it got canceled because I was like, we're going to fuck somebody up.
00:27:47.000Yeah, you felt what kind of, well, you have a couple of examples or.
00:27:52.000Well, there was a bunch in the early days.
00:27:54.000Like, first of all, the first one that we ever did where I was like, don't do this, was bull riding.
00:28:54.000It was like one of the only things where I was, I was like, I wouldn't do it.
00:28:57.000I'm telling you right now, I would never do this.
00:28:59.000Were the bulls, were they the bulls that were because certain bulls, they get upset if you ride them, but after you fall off, they don't try to hook you.
00:29:08.000Did these bulls try to hook them after they got they get.
00:29:10.000They had handlers that steered the bull away from the people and they did a good job with that.
00:29:15.000But I mean, who fucking knows, they don't want you on them.
00:29:19.000They weigh 2,000 pounds, they're all muscle.
00:29:22.000Like the thing was so powerful, like you could feel it when it was in the cage where it was just fucking moving around like don't do this.
00:29:31.000And they're smart, like bulls are very smart.
00:29:34.000That's why unfortunately uh, you know, in Spanish bullfighting they kill the bull, which i'm i'm i'm not on board with, but because they learn your movements.
00:29:48.000You can't make the same movement right twice in a row with a bull because they're gonna go, oh okay, i'm gonna be, you're gonna do that and i'm gonna be right here waiting on you.
00:29:58.000It's unfair and you can't have anyone move behind the fence when it's on, because bulls can easily jump over the fence that a lot of them just don't know they can.
00:30:10.000So if you frighten them or provoke them, they're just gonna jump over the fence and then they have like 35 people they can smoke.
00:30:20.000Yeah it's it's, it's when we work with bulls, it the, the set is different.
00:30:25.000The set is different, the, the guy, Gary Lefew, who supplies our bulls.
00:30:31.000He was world champion in 1970 and when we first started working with him and it stuck with us the whole time.
00:30:39.000He's like, when we have bulls on the set I don't want anyone any kind of negativity going around the set.
00:30:47.000It's already hard enough with the bull.
00:30:49.000If there's anyone Negative or any negativity, that person's off the set.
00:30:56.000Just if there's any like saying negative things or they've had a fight with someone right before, any kind of negative vibes, no negative vibes.
00:31:08.000Just, well, the whole, the whole everyone on the set senses negative vibes, and everyone has to be completely present and positive for this.
00:31:20.000Is this voodoo or is this like real science?
00:31:23.000No, I think it makes total sense, especially when you're doing stunts.
00:31:30.000When you're doing a stunt that can forever alter you, I don't like any negativity either.
00:31:38.000And also, if you're doing something that can forever alter you, you have to want to be there and want to be doing it.
00:31:46.000You can't halfway go into it because then you're really going to get fucked up.
00:32:28.000It doesn't, it's not a guarantee, Joe, but it does, I think it does help.
00:32:34.000We did a bunch of other stuff that was not bulls, like with cars and trucks and stuff where I was like, ooh.
00:32:42.000Like we had a close call once with this lady who was strapped to the front of a truck and she was supposed to go through some sort of an obstacle course, but like they blew through some boxes and the box got on the windshield of the other car and the other car almost slammed into her legs.
00:33:13.000You know, we had people like getting, they were attached to a tree and they had to figure out which key to unlock them while a bungee cord was attached to them and a helicopter.
00:33:23.000And so once they got the thing unlocked, they would fucking rock it off of this tree.
00:35:41.000Just the just that bleachy smell that the ladies, like between the two of them, were fighting over who drank the piss.
00:35:50.000They wanted to drink, they didn't want to drink the piss.
00:35:53.000They were happy to drink the cum, which I guess tracks.
00:35:59.000You know, like, been there, done that, not in that kind of volume, but what's the worst that could happen?
00:36:05.000Whereas the guys were like really trying not to drink the cum, you know?
00:36:09.000I don't know what they did to decide because they had to decide like one of them was going to drink cum, one of them's going to drink piss.
00:36:14.000So that was one of two times, two times where I was hosting this show where I said to the producers, don't do this.
00:37:17.000Which is where Fear Factor actually came from.
00:37:20.000Fear Factor was actually a show in the Netherlands called Now or Neverland.
00:37:25.000And then they brought it over to America when End of All purchased it and then they changed it to, I think they came up with the name Fear Factor after that.
00:37:35.000That was like why not was already on board.
00:39:13.000And some of the times when I did it to just try to help people, I'm like, look, I'm going to show you.
00:39:18.000I'm going to do it and then you're going to do it.
00:39:19.000And then we didn't even air me doing it because I was like, because they didn't want to make it seem like it was, because I could do it easily.
00:39:39.000I, when I took the job, I'm like, I, this, I'm just going to like give people hell, you know, the whole time, you know, and make their fears worse.
00:39:49.000But then I get to set and I, there's a human in front of you.
00:43:13.000It was fascinating because, like, you know, I had a background in martial arts and teaching.
00:43:20.000And one of the things that I did when I was younger was I took a lot of people to tournaments.
00:43:25.000And I coached a lot of people in Taekwondo No tournaments and they'd be fucking terrified.
00:43:30.000And I would learned how to lock in with them and how to get them into a certain mindset, you know, as a coach.
00:43:37.000And I'd be like, look, you're going to get past this, and this is going to be like one of the highlights of your life because you're absolutely terrified.
00:43:43.000And this fear on the other side will be a completely different feeling.
00:43:49.000You'll have a feeling of accomplishment.
00:43:50.000You'll have a feeling of an understanding, of knowing that you can overcome very terrifying situations and you can triumph and you can do this.
00:44:06.000I carried that over to Fear Factor sometimes because there were people that just needed help.
00:44:11.000Like they didn't, they had never experienced anything that really freaked them out before.
00:44:15.000They'd never experienced the kind of pressure of not just a competition, but a competition where they're doing something kind of dangerous.
00:44:22.000Something that really fucking freaked them out.
00:44:24.000They have to hold their breath underwater for like two minutes while they swim through a fucking thing.
00:44:28.000And we have rescue divers under there to rescue them and there's panic.
00:44:32.000And it was like, that was one thing that was really satisfying was being able to like take a person who was ready to fucking quit and then they went on and won the whole thing.
00:45:47.000They built this huge sled out in the desert, and he would strap himself in because the thinking at the time was if you're going to do something, a very dangerous experiment, a lot of times people back then would put themselves at the center because they didn't want to.
00:46:05.000Of course, they had other people doing it, and he did it most, though.
00:46:09.000So they would go hundreds of miles per hour, yes.
00:46:37.000And he knew that was going to happen because he'd had that happen before in these experiments.
00:46:43.000And the night before, the one where he got 49 G's, experienced 49 Gs, he went around his house with his eyes closed and just trying to do things like cook.
00:46:55.000And if he did go blind forever, he's one of the most, he would, he, at one time, he was known as the fastest man alive on that sled.
00:47:05.000He went faster than anyone at the time.
00:47:08.000He and he's the reason we have seat belts in cars.
00:47:11.000He's one of the most brilliant men of the 20th century.
00:48:17.000Well, you go to, when we went to the base, before you, you know, do the whole safety thing, they explain everything, what you're going to have to do.
00:48:25.000You see that these guys are all fucking jacked.
00:48:36.000They're all like fucking jacked dudes.
00:48:37.000And they were like, well, first of all, you don't want to be tall because it's all about how much time it takes for the blood to get from your heart to your brain.
00:48:47.000And the shorter distance it has to travel, the better off you are.
00:48:51.000And you have to be physically strong because you do it.
00:50:37.000It's not like you have to, like, you're not in a spaceship, right?
00:50:40.000So the whole thing is just about being able to stay conscious.
00:50:44.000And the thing about the gravity suit is, I guess, somehow or another, it aids your ability to absorb all those G's.
00:50:51.000I'm not really educated about it, but I just do know that he said there's ways that you wear suits that make this easier, but they don't wear the suits.
00:51:00.000Yeah, I think if you go up to a certain altitude, you have to have the dude.
00:55:10.000Like, for example, in Russia, because growing up, like you would do those disaster drills in school in case Russia dropped the bomb and run out behind your locker and put your head between your legs.
00:55:24.000Like that would help if a bomb was dropped.
00:56:05.000We'd done a few things over in Russia, and we were doing something with the Russian Special Forces where we were on through this, what do you call it?
00:56:18.000When there's dogs and obstacle course?
00:56:25.000I'm like, all right, well, I was like, Jeff, why don't you have their attack dog attack me and then shoot me with the rubber bullets and then have the guy kick me in the face when I get to the end.
00:56:42.000And we shot that and the dog attacked me and the Russian guy, the special forces guy said, I'm not going to kick you in the face.
00:56:53.000But he did deliver a nice blow to my solar plexus.
00:56:59.000I had to beg him to do it three times to like, no, you got to do it as hard as you can.
00:57:05.000But Jeff pulled me aside and goes, look, this was just for a while, the TV show Wild Boys.
01:00:48.000Well, while I was doing, I have to, I know, I have a therapist, and I'm like, okay, we can talk about everything in my life, but not the part of me that does stunts.
01:02:55.000Yeah, I kind of created the environment that I grew up in with my father.
01:03:07.000He owned a tire company, and he had all these crazy characters working for him, like people like Big George, Ass Kicking Robert, this guy SDs named Super Dick.
01:03:22.000One guy named W.W. Woodrow Wilson Boxcar Johnson Jr.
01:03:26.000He was the tire groover who was always getting arrested for one thing or another.
01:03:33.000And he was always pranking these people at work, his people that work for him.
01:03:39.000He would stage gunfights at Christmas parties.
01:03:46.000One year at the Christmas party, he gave a couple of the guys, his employees, guns and said, okay, I want you guys to get an argument, and I want to culminate with you pulling out a gun and firing, and you pulling out your gun.
01:04:52.000And, but they, you know, I just doing what I saw growing up, he would send letters to his friends from the VD clinic, rubber stamped on the envelope, saying you have to list your last 10 partners because you've contracted a venereal disease, signed Dr. Harlan C. Titmore.
01:05:11.000But people would get these letters, or worse, the guy's wife would get the letter.
01:05:17.000And the thing about something like that, people become angry and emotional, and then they believe everything.
01:08:56.000Like, here's an example of the backup plans we have.
01:09:00.000Steve-O's filming a bit with an alligator on Jackass, and our safety guy, Manny Puig, who dives in swamps at night with the miners light to pull alligators up to the surface in crocodiles.
01:11:40.000And for sure, you entertain the fuck out of millions and millions of people who laughed their asses off and had a great fucking time watching.
01:11:49.000I get, I don't know why, but I get anxiety.
01:11:51.000I have a really hard time watching those things.
01:12:39.000At a certain age, like, I didn't let my oldest daughter, she could watch things with We Man or this or that, and but I didn't let her come to a movie until she was 14.
01:13:10.000So I guess my younger kids, I think, you know, they saw it a little earlier.
01:13:15.000I get with, I only showed my son like a year ago in my daughter's six months ago.
01:13:21.000It's a good reaction that he was on board.
01:13:28.000My youngest daughter, she thought a lot of things were funny, but I don't know.
01:13:31.000I guess I don't know how she felt because they only, my youngest only saw the first jackass movie, which is pretty tame compared to the others.
01:13:43.000Looking back, it's pretty innocent, even though Ryan Dunn shoved a car up his ass to get an x-ray little toy car.
01:14:26.000I didn't see a lot of options for myself.
01:14:29.000It's weird that you said that, like, your daughters are bright, because girls are definitely more risk-averse and like ridiculous situations like that.
01:15:03.000We're doing a just an it was a pretty tame stunt compared to the ones we do.
01:15:08.000She was going down like a, it was grass, but it was like a big hill on a, like a some kind of rubber raft.
01:15:17.000And she had her lav mic at the lower, on her lower back.
01:15:21.000And she came off, and that was the impact area.
01:15:25.000And for the longest, and it really was a bummer for everybody, you know, and I'm like, I don't, I didn't have, we didn't have a female cast member for a long time.
01:15:53.000Because it was our 25th anniversary last year, and I'm like, let's have an art show and have, we have some cast members and crew members who are good artists.
01:16:01.000And I'm like, let's reach out to some big artists to see if they'll do it.
01:19:49.000And they were in New Orleans about to go out and put a hook through Steve-O's jaw, chum up the waters, and cast him out to the water with sharks.
01:21:47.000Yeah, I mean, if you've seen, he was doing some trick on a skateboard, and he was a rather Rubin-esque young fellow, and he just compound fractured his ankle.
01:21:58.000I don't think he would like that one at all.
01:22:00.000He didn't pop through the skin the whole deal.
01:22:02.000I'm not sure it popped through the skin, but it was doing things that ankles shouldn't do.
01:23:10.000Like, it's only happened four times in the history of MMA or in the history of the UFC, and two of them involve Chris Weideman.
01:23:18.000One, Chris Wideman, did it to Anderson Silva, where Anderson Silva broke his leg, and then Chris Wideman broke his leg in the exact same way against Uriah Hall.
01:23:28.000Oh, I don't know if I saw the one against Uriah Hall.
01:23:32.000So loud because what he did was, it was the first kick he threw.
01:25:04.000I mean, I think Chris had to go through some insane amount of surgeries, multiple surgeries, to try to correct it and to fix it because it didn't take right the first time.
01:25:15.000You're hoping the bones grow back together.
01:25:18.000You got a rod and then screws, and then you're hoping the bone fuses all around it.
01:25:23.000And in some circumstances, they have to make a decision whether or not they go back in another time and take all the supporting stuff out and just have your bone exist normally.
01:25:33.000And you don't want, and then it's like the risk of infection.
01:26:11.000And there's this lady, Irene Aldana, who's a beast.
01:26:15.000And she got a cut in her forehead that I can't believe the referee didn't stop the fight because it looked like someone hit her in the face with an axe.
01:26:25.000Like her entire forehead was split wide open.
01:26:35.000And she's marching forward, throwing bombs where blood is like splattering, like blood splattering with every punch that lands on her face.
01:27:08.000Like, when I was interviewing her, when I was talking to her after the fight, you could see her whole skull was like exposed.
01:27:14.000Yeah, I, you know, when we're talking about the last doing jackass forever, we're talking about getting new cast members and talking about bringing on some females.
01:29:22.000You know, it's an unusual woman that is not just willing to do that and get her face cut open like that, but also like march forward in a mask of blood, like a fucking horror movie, throwing bombs.
01:32:52.000He was one of my favorite fighters of all time.
01:32:54.000He's the great, the great tragedy is Fedor never fought in the UFC against Cain Velasquez because they were both in their prime at the exact same time.
01:35:01.000Well, he was the most complete out of all those guys because he was a guy that could fight you standing up at an elite level, but also in any kind of wild scramble.
01:35:12.000He would catch an arm bar off of his back.
01:35:58.000But there's a time where a fighter can operate under that peak form, and it's a short window.
01:36:07.000And I always say when you're looking at the greatest of all time, you have to look at them in that peak window.
01:36:12.000You can't look at them when they're fighting in their late 30s and they probably shouldn't be fighting anymore.
01:36:17.000You got to judge them based on who they were in their prime because every combat sport athlete has a limited amount of time where they can operate in their prime.
01:36:28.000And Fedor in his prime was about as good as anybody who ever lived.
01:36:36.000But it's like when we had Kane in the UFC, Kane Velasquez, who was another superhuman freak, also super stoic, would just go and had cardio like no heavyweight ever.
01:38:34.000That's what you get for talking shit to Brock Lesnar.
01:38:38.000It doesn't really compute in his head, I don't think.
01:38:41.000Brock is a guy that, like, you know, he was NCAA Division I national champion, like elite wrestler.
01:38:49.000I always wondered what would happen with him if he didn't go into pro wrestling for so long, if he just went into MMA right out of his college career.
01:38:57.000I think he could have been one of the all-time great players.
01:38:59.000What are you going to do with that guy if he's been training for that long?
01:39:03.000Well, he didn't train much in striking at all.
01:39:05.000Like, you could tell in the early days, his striking was, you know, he was learning it.
01:39:09.000Obviously, an elite athlete, a freak of nature physically, but he was still learning striking.
01:39:15.000And striking is something takes a long time to really get a mastery of.
01:40:41.000I sent Dana White a text message because he had an MMA fight and hit this dude with a left hook.
01:40:47.000And then as the dude's going out, he fucking slams him to the ground.
01:40:51.000He landed the punch and he had enough speed to close the distance and fucking slam him to the ground while he's unconscious from the punch.
01:41:12.000Gable's the first guy that I've ever had in the studio that isn't even in the UFC yet and that only has had like a couple fights where I was like, I want to have this guy on right away.
01:43:03.000The problem is, so, like in boxing, okay, this is a good so boxing has always traditionally done a way better job of preparing fighters for world-class fighters.
01:43:15.000So, even Mike Tyson, who was a phenom, in his prime, he fought a bunch of journeymen in the beginning.
01:43:53.000But you go to the early days of Mike Tyson where he's fighting guys that have fucking zero business being in there with you.
01:44:00.000And these guys just took the payday and just got knocked into orbit.
01:44:04.000And those fights are some of the most fun fights to watch because you realize you're dealing with a guy who's going to be one of the all-time greats.
01:44:11.000And you're getting to see him when he's 19 and no one had any idea what was coming.
01:44:18.000You know, like some of his first fights, people had heard rumblings.
01:44:21.000There's this kid out of the Catskills.
01:45:06.000And so Mike would just sit and watch all these great fighters, all the old school guys, all the old Joe Lewis fights on film, you know, all the Sugar Ray Robinson fights.
01:46:22.000So that's the thing about a guy fighting Gabelson, Gable Stevenson.
01:46:26.000It's not that Gable's going to beat you and getting knocked out's not that bad.
01:46:30.000It's that your confidence is going to be destroyed and you will get knocked out easier next time, which is the problem with getting knocked out.
01:47:48.000But do you have any lingering issues like memory issues, impulse control?
01:47:54.000The I can, well, I don't know whether it's I'm getting older or I can remember a lot of like things from four years, like from my childhood and that kind of thing.
01:48:06.000I have complete recall, but what I did a week ago, you know, it's up in the air.
01:48:15.000And do you think that's connected to the head injuries?
01:49:44.000But after a couple of months on, actually about four to six weeks on the medication, The colors came back and I started feeling like myself again.
01:50:15.000Like, I know there's some different therapies they do for people that have.
01:50:19.000I did a thing, a transcranial magnetic stimulus.
01:50:22.000Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you about.
01:50:23.000And I started that, and it was kind of, I was in the middle of my episode, and I started that.
01:50:35.000You do it over like six to eight weeks, I can't remember.
01:50:39.000And I remember at the first I would start it and I'd talk to the guy running it, but by the end, the end of the eight weeks, I was just kind of, I wouldn't look at him, I wouldn't talk to him.
01:50:50.000And yeah, I was just completely in my head all the time.
01:51:57.000But it's like you, how do you it's tough to figure out how to uh, he has a certain spirit in about him and how do you outrun him, which made him a champion?
01:52:17.000And that's, that's the that's the problem.
01:52:19.000I think you have to plant that seed in a fighter's head when they're young.
01:52:24.000Yeah, I don't think you could tell them that this is going to be a ride that lasts forever.
01:52:29.000I think you have to tell them there's going to be a time when we realize we have to stop this, we have to stop doing this.
01:52:36.000And you're going to have to trust me yeah, because i'm on the outside and i'm i'm going to watch you very carefully and we're going to make sure that you you never get to a point where you're like I, like a fighter that retires and they can talk and they're fine and they're good like I.
01:52:54.000I like when a guy gets out like Andre Ward is one of my favorite fighters, because not just was he a two-division world champion, not only was, like he, an elite boxer, but he retired Undefeated and never came back, and now he's fine.
01:54:45.000Like when they cut the weight, they can't take a punch.
01:54:48.000It's just different because your brain doesn't rehydrate in time.
01:54:51.000So if you're dehydrating to make, let's say, 170, if you're dehydrating to make 170, but you really weigh 200, you can get down to 170 for the weight.
01:55:02.000But once you rehydrate and you're 200 again for the fight, you don't have water in your brain yet.
01:55:18.000It's like you're talking about all the problems that you have, but yet you're sitting here, you're not slurring your words, you're laughing, you're coherent, we're having a good time.
01:55:26.000And now think about these guys that you see that start mumbling and their words all kind of slur together.
01:55:49.000Dude, Vandeley Silva just had a boxing match in Brazil that turned into a brawl.
01:55:56.000So he was boxing this guy, and the bunch of people jumped into the ring and started brawling.
01:56:05.000And one of the guys that jumped into the ring KO'd him, hit him with a bare knuckle punch and knocked him out cold where he falls back and bounces and they have to drag him out of the ring.
01:57:30.000The stare down between Vanderlay Silva and Mirko Krokop, in my opinion, is the greatest stare down in the history of combat sports because you've got a guy who in Vandeley Silva is one of the most intimidating, terrifying MMA fighters that ever hit.
01:57:46.000But then in Mirko Krokop, you got a guy who's ahead of an anti-terrorist squadron who's fucking probably murdered people.
01:59:36.000You don't know because he didn't look like he was on steroids, right?
01:59:39.000Because he had like dad bod, but jacked, you know, but he carried a lot on some extra body fat because he didn't have to worry about losing weight.
01:59:46.000But he came from the Russian sports program, you know, and they cheated with everything.
01:59:53.000The reality of, have you ever seen that movie Icarus?
02:00:24.000That's the guy who was the head of the Russian anti-doping, and I'm making air quotes, anti-doping program.
02:00:33.000And so during, yeah, Rodchenkov, Gregory Rychenkov.
02:00:38.000So during the filming of it, it turns out that the Russians get busted because during the Sochi Olympics, the entire roster of Russian athletes was on Roy's.
02:00:53.000So what they did was they cut a hole in the wall and they would take the piss that the Russians had given after the competition.
02:01:01.000They'd sneak it through the hole and sneak in some new piss and put it in its place.
02:01:06.000But what they had found was that there was microabrasions in the jars.
02:01:12.000They supposedly had these unopenable jars.
02:01:14.000And the Russians had figured out a way to snake some sort of a utensil or some sort of a device and open up these jars, swap out the piss and put in some fresh clean piss in the same jar.
02:02:17.000Because this guy gave up the entire secrets of the Russian doping program, which led to in the Brazil Olympics, Russia was banned from the Brazil Olympics.
02:03:36.000I don't know why I thought gay porn star.
02:03:38.000I thought, like, if you're giving steroids to a gay guy, what would be the last guy that you would want to do it to to see if you could turn him not gay would be a gay porn star, right?
02:03:49.000Like, give him steroids, and also he's like, why am I fucking all these guys?
02:04:48.000And they, I mean, that's a terrible tragic story.
02:04:52.000The man Really had an enormous impact on World War II, but still he had to be closeted, and then the and then they chemically castrated him in England in the 1950s.
02:05:08.000And he's the guy who came up with the Turing test, which is a way to determine whether or not artificial intelligence had achieved sentience.
02:05:16.000Could you tell if you're having, and most people believe that at this point in time, you can't tell.
02:05:22.000Like, the Turing test has already been achieved.
02:05:38.000And it can answer questions about anything.
02:05:39.000It's just basically like a super genius human being that I ask questions to all the time on my phone.
02:05:46.000And I don't, I don't ever feel like this is a computer.
02:05:50.000It feels like a fucking person that's just like you have a wizard that you can ask any question of, and it can give you the answer.
02:05:57.000So that's Alan Turing's invention was this test to determine whether or not you could determine whether artificial intelligence had achieved sentience.
02:07:21.000We stopped this takeover of the world by the most evil group that we've ever seen assembled in modern history.
02:07:28.000And America came back, and there's that photograph, that famous photograph, I guess it's in Times Square, where the soldiers kissing that woman.
02:08:47.000They dosed people up according to where you were.
02:08:51.000But they realized that had diminishing returns because they're just jacked up all the time and they're not sleeping and then it starts falling off.
02:10:31.000So what it was was they found blood from the couch where supposedly Hitler committed suicide.
02:10:38.000They took that blood and matched the DNA to Hitler's bloodline.
02:10:42.000So they knew it was a male and they knew the blood came from someone in Hitler's family.
02:10:48.000So they're reasonably assured that this is Hitler.
02:10:51.000And then they found that they had Kalman syndrome.
02:10:55.000So researchers analyzing blood-stained cloth from the sofa where Hitler died found genetic marker linked to Kalman syndrome.
02:11:01.000Disorder is a form of hypogonadotropic hypogonadism, which resulted in insufficient production of sex hormones and can prevent or delay puberty.
02:13:12.000And so we got some money together and sent him to talk to Jessica and his family.
02:13:19.000And now because of just generational neglect and all the young kids coming up, he's like, he was like, you know, the wildest one in the family, but now he's like the eighth wildest.
02:13:36.000All the younger ones are much, you know, more intense.
02:13:41.000And we came back with three days of footage and we're like, holy shit.
02:13:45.000And we cut something together and took it to my friends at MTV.
02:13:51.000And they're like, yeah, okay, we'll give you some money.
02:15:40.000Yeah, but it's both funny and entertaining, but also deeply disturbing at the same time because you realize, especially towards the end of the film, where they want to get out of this life.
02:15:49.000Like they're trying to clean up, you know, and she's trying to get off pills.
02:16:39.000Yeah, it's like, I think There's just forgotten sections of our country when it comes to just extreme despair and poverty and just overall, like you said, fucked over by the coal companies, fucked over by pills.
02:17:28.000So what came back was it was very impactful and you couldn't turn away.
02:17:42.000It just, yeah, there's a lot of shit that really pulls on your heartstrings, but they're so charismatic and they have such a way about them.
02:25:39.000Like, he felt like he had to pull over and talk to the dummy.
02:25:44.000And he'd get out by the side of the road, pop open the trunk, and hear him back there, like just fucking around with the dummy, like looking at it, talking to it.
02:25:52.000Then he'd put it back in and drive off.
02:25:54.000Like, he would get in his head that the dummy needed to be checked on.
02:25:59.000How does a guy like that operate in life?
02:27:50.000Yeah, but like a lot of people that are brilliant, he was out of his fucking mind and never really got traction in terms of like a real national career.
02:27:58.000But he was very funny and a really good joke writer.