The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2442 - Ehsan Ahmad

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00:00:12.000 Hey, fella. 0.98

00:00:13.000 Hey, what's going on, brother?

00:00:14.000 Good to be back, Joe.

00:00:15.000 Good to see you, as always.

00:00:18.000 This time, I have something to actually promote.

00:00:20.000 Well, you're always promoting.

00:00:22.000 So, I mean, any kind of appearance is sort of a promotion because you're promoting the audience gets to see you.

00:00:29.000 Right.

00:00:30.000 Right?

00:00:30.000 Right.

00:00:31.000 You know, it was so funny because it got me thinking.

00:00:33.000 So I started watching Patrice's Opie and Anthony appearances because there's a list of them on Spotify. 0.99

00:00:39.000 And what was so funny to me was like, you know how they have these like, these group of like mentally disabled people that they kind of fuck with. 0.98

00:00:47.000 Opie and Anthony? 0.99

00:00:48.000 Yeah.

00:00:49.000 Like a carousel.

00:00:49.000 Yeah.

00:00:51.000 It's like kind of mean.

00:00:52.000 It's kind of horrible.

00:00:53.000 It's kind of like, ooh, I'm kind of glad we're past that.

00:00:53.000 Yeah.

00:00:56.000 But what made me laugh is every single one of them at the end of the thing was like, and here's my website.

00:01:02.000 I had a website.

00:01:04.000 And I was like, damn, I've been on the Joe Rogan experience twice and I don't even have a website. 0.93

00:01:08.000 You didn't have a website? 0.96

00:01:09.000 I didn't have a website.

00:01:10.000 This is the first time I had a website.

00:01:12.000 What did you do?

00:01:12.000 Wow.

00:01:13.000 Did you make it yourself?

00:01:14.000 No, I realized like, oh, I got to pay people to do stuff like that.

00:01:18.000 That's out of my wheelhouse of things I can do.

00:01:21.000 Ironically, I'm terrible with technology for a guy who looks like me.

00:01:24.000 There's some things you could do.

00:01:26.000 Like Squarespace has a great setup.

00:01:28.000 It's pretty easy to do.

00:01:30.000 Yeah, but I think that's just pure, it's like pure laziness almost on my end for sure.

00:01:35.000 And a little bit like, I spend so much time on my, like, my brain space in this is dedicated to my jokes.

00:01:40.000 I don't, I kind of shut out everything else.

00:01:43.000 It's a fun time to be alive.

00:01:44.000 One of the things is really, that's really exciting about the mothership is for someone like me who's been doing comedy for so long, it's really exciting to watch people's careers launch.

00:01:55.000 You know, like see guys like Cam Patterson go from getting a spot on Kill Tony to being a regular on Kill Tony to being on fucking Saturday Night Live.

00:02:04.000 Boom. 0.98

00:02:04.000 It's crazy. 0.98

00:02:05.000 Like some of them like Christina Mariani now just like sells out rooms at the comedy store all the time. 1.00

00:02:10.000 She's killing it. 1.00

00:02:11.000 And then you have like Peyton Ruddy and like Dylan Carlino.

00:02:13.000 These are just guys who are just at the club and just made a way like social media wife.

00:02:18.000 And you get to see people get just tighter and better like McCusker's new set like we did last night. 0.98

00:02:25.000 Really fucking good, man. 0.65

00:02:27.000 Super solid, really fun. 0.97

00:02:29.000 It's just like, we got a good thing, man.

00:02:32.000 It's a good thing.

00:02:33.000 Yeah, it's just a fun place to be around.

00:02:35.000 Everyone just working jokes.

00:02:38.000 That's what it is, really.

00:02:39.000 It's so funny.

00:02:40.000 There is such this narrative outside of the ship about what Austin comedy is.

00:02:44.000 And it's just really just a bunch of people just doing jokes.

00:02:47.000 The narrative is only with jealous people.

00:02:49.000 It's not based on any reality.

00:02:51.000 It's not based on people who go there and hang out.

00:02:53.000 Right.

00:02:53.000 Well, it's all with these people who love to talk about Austin, but they don't talk to anyone in Austin.

00:02:58.000 It's like there's a bunch of comics willing to hang out and talk to you.

00:03:00.000 I think I've told you this before, but I have a friend of mine who's somewhat of a philosopher, an online friend.

00:03:05.000 I don't even know what he looks like.

00:03:06.000 We've been going back and forth for years.

00:03:08.000 But he warned me about this a long time ago.

00:03:10.000 He said, you've created a walled garden.

00:03:13.000 And he goes, and you've got all these friends and you're all supporting each other and you're all having fun.

00:03:17.000 But there's a lot of people that feel on the outside and they feel like left out of it. 1.00

00:03:21.000 And so they're like, fuck those people. 1.00

00:03:23.000 That party sucks. 1.00

00:03:24.000 You know, it's kind of along those lines. 0.99

00:03:27.000 And, you know, if you could find some connections to other negative things, you know, like me and Tony, we have this connection to Trump and so does Shane.

00:03:35.000 And, you know, there's all sorts of that. 1.00

00:03:37.000 Oh, fucking, you got to be a right-winger to be. 1.00

00:03:40.000 And then the narrative comes up. 1.00

00:03:41.000 Oh, you got to tell jokes about fucking trans people. 1.00

00:03:44.000 You have to get. 1.00

00:03:45.000 Yeah.

00:03:46.000 You can't be a liberal.

00:03:47.000 You can't be a this.

00:03:48.000 You can't be like.

00:03:50.000 Well, the whole like, you have to be a right-winger.

00:03:52.000 That's like, to me, that's like massive projection.

00:03:54.000 There are these spaces where, like, if you're a right-winger in comedy, like, there's like leftist spaces that you just can't be in.

00:04:01.000 For sure.

00:04:02.000 You'll get pushed out.

00:04:03.000 Right.

00:04:04.000 You'll get treated badly, more importantly. 0.99

00:04:06.000 Whereas at the mothership, like that fucking green room, like 80% of the time, it's mostly like progressive people. 0.99

00:04:14.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:04:14.000 Oh, and left-wing people. 0.98

00:04:16.000 A lot of people, most of the people who work there are mostly left-wing.

00:04:18.000 Yeah, it's a place where it's a place where, but because right-wing people, I guess, are allowed to be here or like also allowed to be here.

00:04:24.000 It's all of a sudden this right-wing Nazi haven.

00:04:28.000 Well, it's also like, what does that even mean?

00:04:30.000 Right.

00:04:30.000 Like, what is right-wing?

00:04:32.000 Like, because you don't think that that candidate and what they were doing by like storming the fucking gates with illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:04:40.000 You don't think that was a good idea? 0.98

00:04:41.000 You don't think like rampant spending completely unchecked with no documentation like what's going on in California?

00:04:47.000 You don't think that's a bad thing?

00:04:50.000 Tim Walt is doing.

00:04:52.000 I mean, it's so, there's so much of it, man. 0.99

00:04:55.000 But then it's also like, yeah, what ICE is doing, like, fucking shooting that lady seems kind of crazy. 0.98

00:05:00.000 You know, like grabbing people that happen to be American citizens and fucking dragging them out onto the snow and asking them for their papers. 0.99

00:05:06.000 That seems kind of fucking crazy, too. 0.99

00:05:08.000 Yeah, that seems insane. 0.99

00:05:09.000 But it's also like they have a crazy job.

00:05:12.000 Like, imagine you're an ICE agent.

00:05:16.000 Just imagine what happened.

00:05:17.000 Okay.

00:05:18.000 So we tried, we used our sponsor Perplexity the other day and tried to figure out through AI what the exact number is.

00:05:27.000 But when you deep dive, you realize they don't know the number.

00:05:30.000 They really have like an estimate of interactions with illegal immigrants. 0.99

00:05:34.000 And it's somewhere around 11 million for four years, which is fucking wild.

00:05:41.000 That's 10 Austins at least of illegal immigrants were allowed to get in this country, aided to get in this country, and then moved to states. 0.92

00:05:53.000 They moved them.

00:05:54.000 They flew them out to certain swing states.

00:05:56.000 Like this is all Mike Benz has documented all this stuff.

00:06:01.000 You can see they gave him EBT cards.

00:06:03.000 So imagine, you can imagine two things.

00:06:06.000 One, imagine you're one of those people.

00:06:07.000 You're like, dude, they're asking me to come.

00:06:09.000 This is awesome.

00:06:10.000 Now I'm in America.

00:06:11.000 I'm going to get a good job.

00:06:12.000 I'm going to be able to support my family. 0.99

00:06:13.000 And then all of a sudden you have these fucking dudes in bulletproof vests looking for you on the streets. 1.00

00:06:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:06:18.000 Yeah.

00:06:19.000 I thought you said it was okay.

00:06:21.000 I thought the Red Cross gave me a map. 0.99

00:06:24.000 I was, you gave me a fucking cell phone and now you're hunting me. 0.99

00:06:27.000 Right. 1.00

00:06:27.000 Now you're just like caught in a crossfire. 1.00

00:06:29.000 But now imagine the ICE agents.

00:06:31.000 Okay.

00:06:32.000 This is your job.

00:06:33.000 Your job is to go out and find these people.

00:06:36.000 And one of the things you don't get about this, it's like, because there was like a recent clip of mine that got like highlighted where I was criticizing ICE.

00:06:44.000 One of the things that you don't think about when you're into this is just like regular police interactions.

00:06:52.000 The ones that you see online are the horrible ones.

00:06:57.000 So you think all cops are horrible.

00:07:00.000 What you miss is the millions of interactions that people have with cops.

00:07:04.000 Like, how you doing today, sir?

00:07:06.000 How you doing?

00:07:06.000 Good, sir.

00:07:07.000 Can I see your paperwork?

00:07:08.000 Here it is.

00:07:08.000 Sure.

00:07:10.000 You in a hurry? 0.99

00:07:11.000 I fucked up. 1.00

00:07:12.000 I'm late for work. 0.99

00:07:13.000 You know, all right, man.

00:07:14.000 Just slow down.

00:07:16.000 Like, all right, thanks, brother.

00:07:16.000 Go.

00:07:18.000 Everything's nice.

00:07:19.000 That happens too.

00:07:20.000 Like, there's nice interactions with cops.

00:07:22.000 There's people that save people from bad guys.

00:07:24.000 It happens all the time. 0.99

00:07:26.000 There's people that are thankful that they called the police and they stopped the burglar who is breaking into their fucking mom's house or whatever it is. 0.99

00:07:33.000 Right. 0.98

00:07:33.000 There's so many more of those, but you're not seeing those videos. 0.98

00:07:36.000 And so with the ICE thing, what you're only seeing and you're only hearing about American citizens that have been arrested, the lady that got shot, you're hearing about all these negative annotations.

00:07:46.000 What you're not hearing about is the number of violent criminals that they've caught.

00:07:51.000 And it's a lot.

00:07:52.000 It's in the thousands.

00:07:55.000 It's not like thousands of American citizens have been shipped out to other countries.

00:08:00.000 No, it's like net positive if you look at it that way.

00:08:06.000 Like, see if you can find out how many, because I know there's probably going to be a bunch of various sources that are not totally accurate.

00:08:13.000 But find out, like, what are the number of violent criminals they've caught since they started doing this?

00:08:20.000 Well, also, also, there is a question on this is how I, because I know this is how they recruit some ICE agents.

00:08:27.000 It's just like their ads on local TV just offering like in the UFC, there's an ICE ad.

00:08:34.000 Yeah, and it's like, these aren't just like also regular people.

00:08:37.000 How much training are they really getting?

00:08:39.000 Because when you watch the shooting video, you're like, why is the guy shooting also recording with his phone?

00:08:39.000 Right.

00:08:44.000 Like, there's no way that's like anything you're trained to do.

00:08:48.000 His own safety, like, just to make sure that you could see this lady's unhinged. 0.99

00:08:53.000 Is he not wearing a body camera?

00:08:54.000 He's not a cop, right?

00:08:55.000 So I bet he's not wearing a body camera.

00:08:57.000 Yeah, I bet that's why.

00:08:59.000 I bet that's why I filmed it.

00:09:00.000 And also, that same guy, turns out, was dragged by a car just recently.

00:09:07.000 So, like, he almost lost his life, or someone did try to run him over.

00:09:10.000 He's hang on to a car for dear life.

00:09:12.000 I think he got dragged.

00:09:13.000 300 feet.

00:09:14.000 He got dragged 300 feet.

00:09:15.000 That's crazy.

00:09:16.000 300 feet is, that's a long way to get dragged.

00:09:18.000 Yeah.

00:09:19.000 You know, you 100%.

00:09:19.000 Right?

00:09:22.000 There's a full possibility that you may die.

00:09:25.000 There's no single public record number of violent criminals captured by ICE raids just over the last few months.

00:09:29.000 And available data suggests those cases are relatively small share of recent ICE arrests and detentions.

00:09:35.000 One analysis, ICE internal data, said that only 5% to 8% of the people booked to ICE detention late 2025 and early fiscal year 2026 had violent or serious property crime convictions.

00:09:45.000 But even if it's 8%, they've gotten rid of a half a million people already.

00:09:50.000 And then 1.6 million voluntarily deported.

00:09:54.000 So in a half a million people, 8% is a lot.

00:09:58.000 That's a lot of violent criminals.

00:10:00.000 So this is weirdly phrased.

00:10:03.000 As of January 2020, I would say 8% is a lot. 1.00

00:10:06.000 Like if you have cancer in 8% of your body, I would say you're fucked. 1.00

00:10:09.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:10:10.000 Like if they're saying, oh, it's only been 8% that are violent criminals.

00:10:14.000 That's a lot of people.

00:10:15.000 But now the question is, are these 8% and then the non-violent people sent to the same place?

00:10:23.000 Ooh, that's a good question.

00:10:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:10:25.000 Because you do want the violent criminals out, but then I don't want the non-violent criminals to be sent or not or non-violent people who are here to be sent to a prison.

00:10:36.000 It says ICE no longer voluntarily publishes detailed case-level arrest breakdowns by offense type and independent projects.

00:10:36.000 Exactly.

00:10:43.000 So imagine if you're a dude from Mexico that just walked up here because you wanted a better job and then they shove you in a prison. 0.99

00:10:50.000 And now, yeah, in some prisoners.

00:10:51.000 And you never did anything bad your whole life.

00:10:54.000 And now you're in some, well, the El Salvador thing, are they still doing that?

00:10:57.000 I don't, that I don't know.

00:10:59.000 That was a bad, that's bad optics.

00:11:01.000 Yeah.

00:11:02.000 I mean, there's a lot of optics is the optics with ICE has been terrible.

00:11:07.000 It says recent enforcement has involved thousands of arrests nationwide, but available analysis consistently indicate that only a small minority of those.

00:11:15.000 Is that in italics?

00:11:17.000 No.

00:11:18.000 Is it?

00:11:19.000 Maybe.

00:11:19.000 Is it?

00:11:20.000 Weird, right?

00:11:21.000 Yeah.

00:11:21.000 It looks a little funky.

00:11:23.000 No.

00:11:23.000 No, it's not.

00:11:25.000 It's just that's perplexity showing its bias.

00:11:29.000 Small minority of those, that's a tone of those in ICE detention arrested by ICE in late 2025 and early 2026 have violent criminal convictions.

00:11:38.000 Most have no convictions.

00:11:40.000 But when they sing small minority, they indicated previously that that's 8%.

00:11:44.000 That still means a lot of human beings.

00:11:47.000 Yeah.

00:11:48.000 That's a lot of violent human beings.

00:11:48.000 Yeah.

00:11:51.000 If you could sign a piece of paper that said that, you know, we're going to allow a bunch of people into this country, most of them have no violent convictions, but about 8% of them are monsters, evil, sociopathic murderers, drug dealers. 1.00

00:12:08.000 8% is a giant-ass fucking number. 1.00

00:12:11.000 Right. 1.00

00:12:12.000 That's a giant ass number. 0.99

00:12:13.000 Right. 0.99

00:12:14.000 The real problem is that they have to do this.

00:12:16.000 This is a real problem.

00:12:18.000 Because the Democrats did what they did.

00:12:20.000 They did a crazy thing.

00:12:22.000 They opened the border up and told people the border was open and then let people.

00:12:27.000 And then when people tried to stop them from doing it, they used court orders.

00:12:31.000 Like, what was that thing they did down in Texas at the border?

00:12:34.000 Oh, yeah, because Abbott tried to put up something, some like wall or something.

00:12:37.000 But they said, you can't stop this.

00:12:40.000 Yeah.

00:12:41.000 Which is, wait a minute, you can't stop people from breaking the law.

00:12:44.000 Like, what are you saying?

00:12:46.000 There's a method to stop this and you don't want it stopped?

00:12:49.000 Right.

00:12:49.000 Because the dirty secret is the census doesn't count citizens.

00:12:54.000 It counts everybody.

00:12:55.000 It even counts illegals.

00:12:57.000 So if you live in a community that's half illegal aliens, you get way more congressional seats from that district than if you are in a community where all those people don't count. 0.91

00:13:08.000 They said that, I think they said that California, if the census did, see if we can find out what the number is.

00:13:14.000 But if the census did not count illegal immigrants in California, I think they would lose a shocking number of seats.

00:13:21.000 Right.

00:13:22.000 Which is kind of crazy here.

00:13:25.000 You're rigging politics by moving humans into place. 0.96

00:13:29.000 Yeah, well, you got to do something.

00:13:32.000 It's a very, something that no one really talks about a lot is like the Democrats, every single minority group shifted right in 2024.

00:13:41.000 Right.

00:13:42.000 Every single one.

00:13:43.000 And no one really is like actually trying to figure out why that's happening.

00:13:47.000 They're like, well, if we just import more people, we can overcome that deficit.

00:13:51.000 But they could.

00:13:52.000 They could.

00:13:53.000 If it was successful, they could overwhelm the political process.

00:13:56.000 They could make it just like it's California forever, where you get half the people are like massively disgruntled and so confused about the politics, but they're stuck there.

00:14:05.000 And that would be the whole country.

00:14:07.000 It would essentially be that kind of a thing.

00:14:08.000 And then they do what they do in England and what they do in Canada was they slowly start clamping down on your rights.

00:14:14.000 Right.

00:14:14.000 And England starts arresting people for social media posts.

00:14:17.000 Well, you know, hopefully that the free speech stuff is so ingrained in who we are as a people.

00:14:24.000 Because England, like at the end of the day, it's not like that country was built on that principle.

00:14:29.000 This says that they would only lose two house seats.

00:14:33.000 It says California would lose, I called it Canada, Freudian, would lose an order of one to two House seats if people in the state without legal status were not counted in the census used for appointment based on recent expert simulations.

00:14:51.000 All right.

00:14:52.000 What's this?

00:14:53.000 Here's the thing.

00:14:54.000 Like, how many illegals are in California?

00:14:58.000 Let's find that out.

00:14:59.000 Like, what is the estimated number?

00:15:00.000 Put that in there, Jamie.

00:15:01.000 What's the estimated number of illegals in California? 1.00

00:15:05.000 I don't know where I'd be without this kind of shit. 1.00

00:15:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:15:07.000 I'm so hooked on using like perplexity for any question I have all throughout the day.

00:15:12.000 It's like my smart friend.

00:15:13.000 It's like better Wikipedia because it can really like you can use it as like way better than Wikipedia.

00:15:18.000 Yeah, because you can ask the entire internet. 0.80

00:15:20.000 And sometimes it does catch some bullshit articles in there and says it might be this. 0.93

00:15:25.000 And you're like, wait a minute, let me go to that article. 1.00

00:15:27.000 That might be bullshit. 0.92

00:15:28.000 Because it's only pulling from the internet, right? 0.96

00:15:30.000 Undocumented 2.8 million in 2007.

00:15:34.000 Yeah, that would be around two seats, right?

00:15:36.000 Because there's like 30 million in California.

00:15:38.000 Something like that.

00:15:39.000 Yeah.

00:15:40.000 That makes a difference.

00:15:41.000 And then you do the same thing in Seattle.

00:15:43.000 Do the same thing in wherever places you have massive numbers of undocumented people.

00:15:49.000 Cow, um, uh, Ohio is a big one.

00:15:52.000 You know, this is one of the reasons why they had this thing where, like, why are there so many Haitians in Ohio? 1.00

00:15:57.000 Well, what do you think?

00:15:59.000 I think they just decided that Ohio's a spot and they all had a group WhatsApp chat.

00:16:03.000 Yeah, and they all went there.

00:16:04.000 No, probably somebody's moving them there.

00:16:06.000 Yeah, this is a swing state.

00:16:07.000 It was funny when the Somalian thing when Walt was like, this is white supremacy. 0.85

00:16:13.000 It was crazy.

00:16:14.000 Everybody's like, hey, but then who's the most supreme white man in the state, governor?

00:16:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:19.000 You bitch. 1.00

00:16:22.000 Like, that's a crazy Freudian slip. 1.00

00:16:24.000 But it's also like, what a crazy attempt at misdirection. 0.99

00:16:27.000 White men commit most of the crimes. 0.99

00:16:29.000 Yeah, that's part.

00:16:30.000 I think I told you that's part of the reason why I think minority groups are shifting away because it's like, one, I don't think that's something the whole victimhood mentality, that's not something that minority groups really experience or like value.

00:16:43.000 Especially not minority groups that are immigrants that are in the middle of the hustle. 1.00

00:16:47.000 Right.

00:16:48.000 Like we got to overcome.

00:16:48.000 We got to go to work.

00:16:49.000 That's the whole point.

00:16:50.000 Regardless of the hand, you're dealt.

00:16:52.000 You got to just play it and overcome.

00:16:53.000 And so that victimhood mentality really kind of pushes people away from the left, I think, in that manner.

00:17:00.000 And then like, you know, when Biden was like, you know, if you don't vote for me, you're not black.

00:17:07.000 It's like, that's kind of how they, that's kind of how they view the minority vote.

00:17:11.000 It's a hostage vote.

00:17:12.000 It's like, vote for us or else.

00:17:13.000 It's like, no one likes that energy coming towards them.

00:17:13.000 Yeah.

00:17:16.000 And they'll lash out and go in a different direction.

00:17:18.000 Such a wild thing to say.

00:17:20.000 I mean, unbelievably funny.

00:17:22.000 Unbelievably funny.

00:17:25.000 Man. 0.99

00:17:26.000 It's just, I can't believe he fucking said it. 1.00

00:17:30.000 He's so crazy. 1.00

00:17:31.000 Said it with that fucking crazy pulled back face. 1.00

00:17:34.000 And it's like, this is madness. 1.00

00:17:37.000 Whatever they did to him to make him try to look younger.

00:17:39.000 Yeah.

00:17:40.000 Doesn't work, kids.

00:17:42.000 Doesn't work.

00:17:43.000 All that.

00:17:43.000 Oh, my God.

00:17:44.000 We know what you used to look like.

00:17:46.000 You're on TV all the time.

00:17:48.000 And all of a sudden, you have a completely different face.

00:17:51.000 Like, your face is different.

00:17:52.000 Like, everything's pulled back and looks.

00:17:55.000 It doesn't look like anybody normal that's 80 years old.

00:17:57.000 No, all plastic surgery ages.

00:18:00.000 Like, you look like an alien when you're old.

00:18:01.000 There's just no way around it.

00:18:03.000 I don't know who lip fillers are for because I don't know any guy who's like, yeah, I like that look like that much, but it's crazy how they age.

00:18:11.000 The facial fillers are crazy too because sometimes those things become a problem and then you got to get them removed.

00:18:17.000 Well, now they're doing that buckle fat thing where they look like ghouls at the time.

00:18:21.000 Why would they do that?

00:18:22.000 Why would they take fat out of their face?

00:18:24.000 Fat in your face is what makes you look youthful.

00:18:27.000 What are those ladies going to look like when they hit their 60s? 1.00

00:18:29.000 They're going to look like ghosts.

00:18:31.000 Maybe.

00:18:32.000 Because their face is going to be all sunken in.

00:18:34.000 By the time they're 60, I think medicine is going to be at a level where they're going to be able to reverse aging.

00:18:40.000 They're pretty close to being able to do that.

00:18:42.000 They've already done some stuff with mice and they've done some stuff where they're understanding what genes are causing you to have these problems, what things could be done to mitigate it.

00:18:54.000 And they're treating aging not like an inevitable aspect of life, but as like a disease that you get over time.

00:19:01.000 Right.

00:19:01.000 Instead of like accepting the fact that your body's going to age at a very specific rate and then when you're 60, it's going to suck.

00:19:07.000 When you're 70, it'll suck worse.

00:19:08.000 Instead, it's like, what's causing that? 0.89

00:19:10.000 Let's reverse what's causing it.

00:19:13.000 And, you know, essentially, if you can do that, and I think they can, if they can't do it now, they're going to be able to do it.

00:19:21.000 Whoa.

00:19:22.000 What happened?

00:19:22.000 Jesus.

00:19:23.000 Okay, but this is like day one.

00:19:25.000 This lady just had surgery. 1.00

00:19:27.000 Popped up on my feet a few times.

00:19:28.000 She's 69, almost 70. 0.99

00:19:31.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:19:33.000 That lady does not look even close to 69 or 70. 0.99

00:19:38.000 Is that true?

00:19:38.000 That's kind of uncanny.

00:19:40.000 Is that true?

00:19:40.000 Is that Dr. Crazy?

00:19:42.000 He's making it up. 1.00

00:19:43.000 She's like, I'm fucking 40, asshole. 1.00

00:19:46.000 It just feels like one of those human dolls. 1.00

00:19:48.000 What did she look like before?

00:19:50.000 There you go.

00:19:50.000 Oh, there's the before.

00:19:51.000 Whoa, that's the same lady? 1.00

00:19:54.000 Bro, that's crazy.

00:19:56.000 You could pick her up at a bar, and then you're like, why do you smell old?

00:19:59.000 God, that's crazy.

00:20:01.000 You know what that old people smell? 1.00

00:20:03.000 Yeah, the mothball smell.

00:20:04.000 Sprayed perfume all over their body.

00:20:07.000 I remember there was this episode of that show Autopsy.

00:20:11.000 Did you ever see that show Autopsy?

00:20:13.000 There's this guy, Michael Badden, and he's a famous forensic scientist that examines cases and says, This is actually a murder.

00:20:21.000 And he catches people.

00:20:22.000 And one of them was this guy who was really crazy.

00:20:26.000 And his wife died. 0.63

00:20:28.000 I wonder if it was his wife or a lady he knew died. 0.91

00:20:32.000 I forget the circumstances, but he kept the corpse in his house and had fashioned some kind of an artificial vagina that he attached to the corpse and then had cases of perfume. 0.99

00:20:48.000 And so apparently the body, he just kept fucking it. 0.98

00:20:51.000 Is this like an older guy, an older story? 0.99

00:20:53.000 Yeah, it's like some Cuban doctor, and it was like some girl he fell in love with and then she died.

00:20:56.000 Yes, right.

00:20:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:58.000 But it wasn't his wife, right? 0.99

00:20:59.000 No, it was like it was like in a plaster case thing and it was a yeah, and fucking crazy. 0.99

00:21:04.000 It had a mask on it. 0.99

00:21:06.000 So it was like a corpse that was like years old with a mask on it and an artificial vagina and cases and cases of perfume. 1.00

00:21:16.000 So this guy's just fucking covering this thing perfuming, getting his fuck on yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:21:21.000 Jamie just said, you gotta find the picture of it. 1.00

00:21:24.000 He even inserted a paper tube into her decrepit corpse to serve as a vagina for making love. 1.00

00:21:29.000 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 1.00

00:21:30.000 That's the fake vagina. 1.00

00:21:32.000 I think it was, yeah, it was like something he made. 0.99

00:21:35.000 Like he made something.

00:21:36.000 Dude, people made it. 1.00

00:21:37.000 He made a thing to fuck. 1.00

00:21:38.000 People go through lengths to get their rocks off. 1.00

00:21:40.000 That's crazy.

00:21:41.000 That's like ingenuity.

00:21:42.000 That's like, man, if you had that energy towards anything positive.

00:21:45.000 You could get to Mars.

00:21:47.000 Yeah, you can finish the phone.

00:21:48.000 Find us a photo of the corpse.

00:21:51.000 There we go.

00:21:52.000 So this.

00:21:52.000 Yeah.

00:21:53.000 Oh, no, that's Carl Tanzler.

00:21:54.000 But it's a different one.

00:21:54.000 That's a different guy.

00:21:55.000 But he did the same thing.

00:21:57.000 Oh, God.

00:21:58.000 Yeah.

00:21:58.000 Key West.

00:22:00.000 Same thing.

00:22:01.000 Secretly took her body or used French plaster to preserve her skin, rigged wires and hangers to support her skeleton, and then pumped a continuous stream of perfume to mass the stench of the scent of decay. 0.95

00:22:15.000 Disturbing arrangement continued for seven years until it's finally discovered by her sister.

00:22:21.000 Oh, God.

00:22:23.000 What a horror story that is.

00:22:25.000 Oh, God.

00:22:25.000 You find your sister's body, and it's just there's a continual stream of perfume to keep people from knowing there's a rotted body up there.

00:22:33.000 Oh, for God.

00:22:34.000 And he did it for years. 1.00

00:22:36.000 God, men are fucked. 1.00

00:22:38.000 Well, you know, and any sort of like weird predator will end up in that situation where they can do their thing, right? 1.00

00:22:38.000 Well, yeah. 1.00

00:22:44.000 So like if you like fuck dead bodies, you're going to be in a corpse. 1.00

00:22:46.000 Like, same thing like there's like a like female pedophiles just become middle school teachers. 1.00

00:22:51.000 Those in the 30s.

00:22:52.000 That's what they do.

00:22:53.000 Jeez.

00:22:54.000 Carl Tanzler.

00:22:56.000 Oh, God.

00:22:57.000 And that's Dr. Michael Badden, the HBO show.

00:22:59.000 That show's awesome, man.

00:23:01.000 Oh, and he did Epstein's autopsy.

00:23:03.000 Yeah.

00:23:04.000 Yeah.

00:23:05.000 He's one of the ones that said that the wounds were consistent with ligature strangulation, not with hanging.

00:23:11.000 Yeah, we talked about this last time.

00:23:13.000 Yeah, you know, so far.

00:23:13.000 Yeah.

00:23:14.000 So I recorded my special on the 25th of October, and I have a bunch of Epstein jokes in there.

00:23:19.000 And in the meantime, they said they released the files, and I was like, oh, no, but they still haven't released them.

00:23:24.000 And I was like, oh, thank God the joke still works.

00:23:27.000 I was like, oh, my God.

00:23:29.000 Thank God.

00:23:30.000 Because I have like at least two separate times where I bring them up because it was even bigger back then.

00:23:35.000 Well, it's going to go on for a long time, I suspect.

00:23:38.000 I mean, they said they released him, but what did they release?

00:23:40.000 No, they're still not all out yet.

00:23:42.000 Yeah, like it's weird.

00:23:42.000 What did they release?

00:23:44.000 The whole thing's weird.

00:23:46.000 It reminds me of that Onion article where they're like, oh, CIA realizes they've been using a black highlighter this entire time.

00:23:54.000 It's like that.

00:23:55.000 It's like, oh, okay, you just blacked out pages. 0.59

00:23:57.000 Redacted the shit out of everything. 0.55

00:24:00.000 It's like, what did they release?

00:24:02.000 Did they release something recently?

00:24:04.000 No, they haven't released anything in a minute.

00:24:05.000 They had that initial release where everything was blacked out, and it was that picture of Winnie the Pooh, which was hilarious.

00:24:09.000 But isn't there talk about some new releases that are happening soon?

00:24:13.000 Have they?

00:24:13.000 It feels like everything's been drowned out by everything else been going on with the Somalians and the ice shooting.

00:24:19.000 It feels like that's completely drowned out.

00:24:21.000 Anything about it?

00:24:22.000 I think some of that's on purpose.

00:24:24.000 Oh, 100%.

00:24:25.000 27 minutes ago, update story.

00:24:28.000 A federal judge blocked the effort to force the release of more files.

00:24:35.000 Get that off there. 0.98

00:24:37.000 Okay.

00:24:38.000 The federal judge, we said it a little bit wrong.

00:24:41.000 It's the federal judge blocked the lawmaker's effort to force the DOJ to release the Epstein file.

00:24:47.000 So they're trying to force the DOJ.

00:24:50.000 They already were forced to.

00:24:52.000 They've missed deadlines.

00:24:53.000 And a federal judge blocked them from forcing them to release it.

00:24:57.000 So a federal judge said, no, you can't force them to release it, even though you campaigned on it.

00:25:02.000 Yeah.

00:25:05.000 Even though you ran on it.

00:25:06.000 Even though you stood outside of that courthouse with a bunch of binders, we've got it.

00:25:10.000 Got him.

00:25:12.000 He ruled that he lacks jurisdiction to release.

00:25:14.000 Oh, I see.

00:25:14.000 I see.

00:25:17.000 Okay, that's a little different.

00:25:18.000 So the federal judge Wednesday ruled that he lacks jurisdiction to appoint an outside expert to ensure the Justice Department complies with a law that makes all files pertaining to the prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein available for public view.

00:25:28.000 Okay, that's different.

00:25:29.000 Yeah, but still, the law chess that they play to make sure it still can't come out is pretty crazy impressive.

00:25:35.000 But the federal jurisdiction are.

00:25:38.000 But if you're a federal judge, you have to do.

00:25:40.000 You can't step outside of your boundaries.

00:25:44.000 Don't they kind of just do that sometimes, though?

00:25:46.000 Yeah, but you're not supposed to.

00:25:48.000 Just because some of them are unethical or some of them.

00:25:50.000 Right, that's fair.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, I don't understand all this, so I'm going to be charitable about it.

00:25:56.000 I'm going to be charitable about it, but I just don't understand how anybody can go to jail for sex trafficking when you don't have anybody they sex traffic to.

00:26:04.000 Right.

00:26:05.000 Like, that don't make any sense.

00:26:06.000 Like, if I was Ghelain's lawyer, I'd be like, to who?

00:26:10.000 Like, how did he not do that?

00:26:10.000 To who?

00:26:12.000 Like, you want to tell me there's some sort of a compromise trial?

00:26:15.000 How do you not have a lawyer that goes, who did she sex traffic to? 1.00

00:26:20.000 Right.

00:26:20.000 That's clearly there's some sort of backdoor deal that was like, hey, spend this time in jail and we won't kill you.

00:26:26.000 Well, of course.

00:26:26.000 Yeah.

00:26:27.000 Or also, she's working with them.

00:26:29.000 Right.

00:26:30.000 How would you?

00:26:31.000 How do you have, I mean, in any way, shape, or form, how do you have a person convicted of a crime when there's like especially that kind of a crime where there's a person that hires you or gives you money or that you use to get influence from and then you sex traffic to them.

00:26:49.000 So there's another person involved and that other person is completely eliminated from the trial because what?

00:26:55.000 Because they're billionaires?

00:26:56.000 Because they're heads of state?

00:26:58.000 Because they're powerful enough?

00:26:59.000 Prominent scientists?

00:27:00.000 What is going?

00:27:01.000 Like, how is that okay?

00:27:02.000 That doesn't even make sense that you could get through a whole trial like that.

00:27:06.000 Yeah, but I think that's just a, I was saying this earlier.

00:27:09.000 I think this is just a function of government. 0.91

00:27:11.000 These like intense like blackmail sex rings that everyone just kind of gets away with it. 0.87

00:27:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:17.000 It seems like it just happens over and over again.

00:27:19.000 But it's like, look at it this way.

00:27:20.000 Imagine if you were selling hash and you had like pounds and pounds of hash at your house and you've been selling hash and you got caught selling hash.

00:27:33.000 They charge you with distribution and you're like, okay, but distributed to who?

00:27:38.000 Because you're only selling to like rich, famous people.

00:27:40.000 You're only selling them to like heads of JP Morgan.

00:27:43.000 You're selling all your hash to those guys.

00:27:45.000 And they're like, well, who did he sell the hash to?

00:27:47.000 Nobody.

00:27:48.000 Somebody bought $100 million worth of hash, and there's nobody.

00:27:53.000 You have no person.

00:27:54.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:27:55.000 There's no crime.

00:27:56.000 So he didn't really sell it.

00:27:58.000 You could say he possesses it, but maybe intend to distribute.

00:28:02.000 But if you want to get them for actual distribution and selling of hash, he's got to sell it to somebody.

00:28:08.000 At least an undercover agent.

00:28:08.000 Man.

00:28:10.000 Right.

00:28:10.000 But like in this situation, it's like, did we ever really think anyone was really going to go to jail for this?

00:28:15.000 I feel like with continual, constant pressure, it has to slowly leak out.

00:28:22.000 Man, I wish I was that optimistic about it.

00:28:28.000 They've done a good job of keeping the names out of the press, even after they said they would leak them.

00:28:33.000 It says here, FBI and DOJ records from 2019 reference about 10 individuals described as an alleged Epstein co-conspirators, including Maxwell and French modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, who died in French custody in 2022.

00:28:48.000 That's a way to get out of it, too.

00:28:49.000 It'd be like, oh, she sold it to a dead guy.

00:28:52.000 Yeah, but it's also, this is not saying that sold it to them.

00:28:56.000 They're co-conspirators.

00:28:58.000 So they were probably involved in facilitating.

00:29:01.000 They were probably involved in acquiring these girls, making connections, because that guy owned a modeling agency.

00:29:07.000 So he's, or he's a modeling agent.

00:29:09.000 So that guy's getting him girls.

00:29:09.000 Right.

00:29:09.000 Right, right.

00:29:11.000 So he's a co-conspirator.

00:29:13.000 It's not saying that he was John.

00:29:15.000 You know, he was a John that was getting the girls.

00:29:17.000 He was a co-conspirator.

00:29:19.000 So there's at least 10 individuals who were also, which makes sense.

00:29:22.000 If you have this giant blackmail ring, it's not going to be like one guy.

00:29:25.000 I also find it funny the whole.

00:29:25.000 Right.

00:29:28.000 We Mark that Mark Epstein guy, his just brother, came out of nowhere for like a little bit, for a little bit yeah, first of all, what do you mean?

00:29:37.000 A brother that just knows everything that happened, because he came out and said that wasn't like the the, the email. 1.00

00:29:43.000 That was like, oh Clinton Trump, sun suck Clinton's dick. 1.00

00:29:46.000 Yeah, he was like no, Bubba wasn't Clinton, but you didn't say he didn't suck someone's dick, it wasn't Clinton. 1.00

00:29:53.000 Trump sucks some guy named Bubba's dick, some truck driver. 1.00

00:29:56.000 What is what you just showed? 1.00

00:29:57.000 Him disappeared that a few of those people were protected by the 2008 non-prosecution agreement.

00:30:06.000 Oh, that little slap on the wrist protected a bunch of people right, and so they continued to be protected.

00:30:11.000 Is that the idea?

00:30:12.000 That's where?

00:30:13.000 No, I don't know if anybody knows nothing's better in law than a technicality.

00:30:17.000 Huh, that's a slippery one.

00:30:20.000 So uh, what did Epstein's brother wind up saying?

00:30:22.000 He said it wasn't Bubba, and then which?

00:30:24.000 Which implied that he knew that. 1.00

00:30:26.000 He knew exactly what was going on in the island the whole time and it's just out and about, but he's still saying that Trump sucks someone's dick. 1.00

00:30:31.000 That's yeah, and then he just straight up disappeared. 1.00

00:30:40.000 We just learned about him.

00:30:41.000 Man, I believe a lot of things. 1.00

00:30:43.000 I do not believe Trump sucks somebody's dick because he doesn't do drugs. 1.00

00:30:46.000 You know what I mean when Charlie Sheen was saying he sucks some guy's dick like okay, Charlie was doing so much crack he was, He was out of his fucking mind. 1.00

00:30:53.000 I feel like that level of power is a drug at that point. 1.00

00:30:57.000 I mean, maybe.

00:30:58.000 I don't think so.

00:31:00.000 I don't know.

00:31:01.000 It's a very good thing. 1.00

00:31:02.000 I'm not sure if I can get Trump to suck a dick. 1.00

00:31:03.000 It just doesn't seem. 1.00

00:31:04.000 That's a guy who's fucked up on drugs. 0.93

00:31:06.000 That's like when Diddy was doing it. 0.98

00:31:08.000 They were all doing drugs.

00:31:10.000 It's a drug thing, right? 1.00

00:31:12.000 Unless you're a gay man, it's a drug thing to go around sucking dicks. 1.00

00:31:16.000 So we're assuming that Trump's been hiding the gay the entire time. 1.00

00:31:19.000 Not a chance in hell. 0.99

00:31:21.000 That'd be the most impressive hide of all time.

00:31:23.000 Also, why would he do that?

00:31:24.000 Yeah, there's no reason. 1.00

00:31:25.000 If you're open and you're gay, side with the fucking Democrats. 1.00

00:31:28.000 Like, that's the move. 1.00

00:31:30.000 You could probably do all the exact same things when you get into office. 0.99

00:31:33.000 It's all horseshit. 0.63

00:31:34.000 I tried a follow-up question that does not know who's in charge of Eddie's estate. 0.99

00:31:39.000 It's thinking.

00:31:40.000 Look at it thinking.

00:31:43.000 Your laptop's about to blow up.

00:31:45.000 I would stop that. 1.00

00:31:46.000 Fucking drone's about to hit the building. 0.99

00:31:49.000 The mothership's going to be on fire tonight when we get there. 1.00

00:31:52.000 So, yeah.

00:31:53.000 Jesus.

00:31:53.000 Jesus Christ, man.

00:31:54.000 It's so funny.

00:31:55.000 It's like, it's an attempted cover-up of corruption that would have been successful in the 70s.

00:32:01.000 Right.

00:32:01.000 Right?

00:32:01.000 If they had pulled this shit off in the 70s and the 80s, gone.

00:32:06.000 Well, the whole Franklin scandal. 1.00

00:32:07.000 Sure.

00:32:08.000 Yeah, they killed that reporter.

00:32:10.000 Yes. 0.67

00:32:11.000 They killed that reporter. 0.95

00:32:12.000 There was definitely some underage sexual thing going on there, and they were like, dead. 0.99

00:32:18.000 You and your son. 1.00

00:32:19.000 That's what you get for fucking around. 1.00

00:32:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:32:21.000 So both of you.

00:32:23.000 Well, you know, Tucker's talked about this, and a few other people have talked about this. 0.97

00:32:26.000 There's a bunch of secretly gay politicians. 0.98

00:32:29.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:32:30.000 And then there's probably a bunch of secret pedophiles as well.

00:32:34.000 Yeah, I mean, definitely. 0.58

00:32:35.000 For sure. 0.87

00:32:36.000 There's definitely, like, I pulled that once on bottom of the barrel, just secretly gay Republicans. 0.98

00:32:41.000 Yeah. 0.87

00:32:41.000 That was my thing. 0.87

00:32:42.000 And then I was like, can you imagine how good that sex feels?

00:32:47.000 Especially after you spent all day being like, it's bad.

00:32:50.000 It's wrong. 0.96

00:32:51.000 And then that sex is extra hot.

00:32:54.000 Yeah, because you're going against God and your party at one time. 0.97

00:32:58.000 Some twink with his converse on.

00:33:00.000 Yeah.

00:33:00.000 Books.

00:33:04.000 And then you go back and be like, family value.

00:33:05.000 Like that level of.

00:33:08.000 I think there's a lot of them that are putting on a show.

00:33:11.000 A lot of them.

00:33:12.000 They're putting on an act, and you're never going to get to know who they really are.

00:33:15.000 And that's why when something comes out, it's like shocking. 1.00

00:33:19.000 They're all fucking weirdos. 1.00

00:33:22.000 They're all weirdos. 1.00

00:33:23.000 You have to be a weirdo to want to run the.

00:33:24.000 Or you have to be like this amazing person.

00:33:26.000 Like, it's two options. 0.70

00:33:28.000 You have to be Gandhi or you have to be a weirdo.

00:33:30.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:33:31.000 And speaker pedophiles. 0.89

00:33:32.000 We had a Speaker of the House that was a pedophile for like eight years. 0.91

00:33:35.000 That's right. 0.53

00:33:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:36.000 A real one.

00:33:37.000 A real deal pedophile. 1.00

00:33:39.000 A real deal convicted pedophile. 1.00

00:33:41.000 What was his name again? 0.91

00:33:42.000 Haster.

00:33:43.000 I think it might have been Haster.

00:33:43.000 Haster.

00:33:44.000 I think so.

00:33:45.000 I feel like we should look that up.

00:33:46.000 I don't look that up.

00:33:47.000 I don't want to be like, oh, Hastert was like a nice guy and we're calling him a pedophile.

00:33:51.000 Speak of the house.

00:33:52.000 He was involved in a very big scandal of it.

00:33:55.000 Yeah, Dennis Hastert.

00:33:56.000 Yeah.

00:33:56.000 Yes.

00:33:58.000 It was like some Sandusky shit. 1.00

00:33:59.000 It was at a school that he was teaching at. 1.00

00:34:01.000 Exactly.

00:34:01.000 Allegations that Senate...

00:34:03.000 Scroll up a little bit.

00:34:04.000 Sorry, Rosa.

00:34:04.000 Senate candidate Roy Moore spent his 30s dating, propositioning, and sexually assaulting high school-aged girls was shocking, but not without precedent.

00:34:13.000 There have been plenty of congressmen who carried on sexual relationships with teenagers from Thomas Jefferson.

00:34:18.000 That was back when people died when they were 18.

00:34:20.000 Strom Thurman, perhaps more dastardly Illinois rep Dennis Haster served as Speaker of the House from 99 to 2007.

00:34:28.000 And a little further down, an additional single agreed that Hastert sodomized a fourth-grade boy in a high school, in a school bathroom, and threatened him if he reported assault.

00:34:35.000 That's like Sandusky stuff.

00:34:37.000 Jesus Christ.

00:34:38.000 Since the statute of limitation had expired on these crimes, Haster was instead convicted of evading bank reporting requirements in order to secretly pay off his victims.

00:34:48.000 That's so funny.

00:34:49.000 He served 15 months in prison.

00:34:51.000 That's it. 1.00

00:34:52.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:34:53.000 That's so crazy to pay off your victims and not do it in cash. 1.00

00:34:57.000 What yeah, that's a lot of money.

00:34:59.000 A lot of money.

00:35:00.000 That's fair.

00:35:01.000 I bet it was quite a bit of money. 0.99

00:35:03.000 Holy shit, dude. 1.00

00:35:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:04.000 And just one kid that got a fourth-grade boy in a school bathroom. 1.00

00:35:11.000 How many more did he do that to?

00:35:13.000 How many just don't want the shame of it coming out publicly?

00:35:16.000 How many guys are struggling with it right now?

00:35:18.000 They're 35 years old. 0.99

00:35:19.000 They don't want to tell that story that ruined their life because the speaker of the house fucked them. 1.00

00:35:25.000 Crazy. 1.00

00:35:27.000 And he, so he's not alone. 0.98

00:35:30.000 No.

00:35:30.000 Right?

00:35:30.000 No.

00:35:31.000 That's the Franklin scandal.

00:35:32.000 And there's no way that wasn't uncovered beforehand by people.

00:35:36.000 Just the way the political machine works.

00:35:37.000 But that's like sort of like, you get me for this, I'll get you for this.

00:35:41.000 So you keep that under wraps.

00:35:42.000 You just have that in your back pocket.

00:35:43.000 I think it's just part of that game that they play.

00:35:46.000 Oh, for sure.

00:35:47.000 It's like Game of Thrones.

00:35:48.000 For sure.

00:35:49.000 It's definitely.

00:35:49.000 It really is.

00:35:50.000 It really is like Game of Thrones. 0.89

00:35:52.000 It's just whorehouses and like House of Cards. 1.00

00:35:57.000 It sucks that Kevin Spacey got busted because that show ruled. 0.98

00:35:57.000 Right? 0.98

00:36:01.000 I know, right?

00:36:02.000 But, you know, it was so funny because thinking back on it, like, if you look throughout movies, my genuine take before he got busted for this is he plays the greatest villains.

00:36:11.000 Yes.

00:36:11.000 He's like the greatest villain actor of all time.

00:36:13.000 He's the greatest creep. 0.89

00:36:15.000 He's like a brilliant creep, like with darkness behind his eyes. 0.97

00:36:19.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:36:20.000 Yeah.

00:36:21.000 And then can turn it on the charm that southern chom for the camera. 1.00

00:36:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:36:25.000 How about when he did that fucking weird video in front of the fireplace? 1.00

00:36:30.000 Like in character kill him with kindness. 1.00

00:36:30.000 Oh, dude. 1.00

00:36:35.000 Right after the witness to his case died?

00:36:37.000 Like another witness to his case died?

00:36:39.000 Yeah.

00:36:39.000 Like people were dropping or like flies around Spacey.

00:36:44.000 Crazy. 1.00

00:36:45.000 Real deal villain shit. 1.00

00:36:47.000 Acting out the literal plot lines as the character, being the character while he's tending the fire. 0.99

00:36:55.000 Goes to show you you can still be a, I mean, he's still a genius artist.

00:36:59.000 Yeah, yeah, just like a whole thing.

00:36:59.000 He's amazing.

00:37:01.000 And in any other time, he would have never gotten caught.

00:37:05.000 That's just how the machine worked.

00:37:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:37:06.000 I mean, he's just one of those guys that got an immense amount of power and he was just a dick grabber. 0.99

00:37:11.000 Like, dick. 0.99

00:37:13.000 And I bet a lot of guys were like, okay. 0.99

00:37:15.000 That's the problem with wild pitches. 0.99

00:37:18.000 You know, you fucking swing at every pitch. 0.99

00:37:20.000 You're going to hit a few. 0.99

00:37:22.000 Right. 1.00

00:37:22.000 You know, but he's probably, you know, for all these guys that he grabbed dicks and said, oh, you know, probably drunk, probably fucked up. 1.00

00:37:29.000 How many guys like let him suck their dick? 1.00

00:37:32.000 A lot, I bet. 1.00

00:37:33.000 I bet it was an effective strategy.

00:37:35.000 Right, especially for famous and holidays. 0.96

00:37:36.000 He did it to gay guys.

00:37:38.000 But he was like the one guy that the story broke was a young teenager, right?

00:37:44.000 When he's like 14 or something like that.

00:37:46.000 Yeah.

00:37:46.000 And they were working together or something like that.

00:37:49.000 It was definitely a minor. 0.96

00:37:51.000 But it's also like, why is that teenager at a minor with a bunch of drunk gay guys? 0.92

00:37:54.000 Like, hey, where's your dad? 1.00

00:37:59.000 The fuck is going on? 1.00

00:38:00.000 What are you doing there? 1.00

00:38:01.000 But it's, you know, it's not excusing him for doing it.

00:38:05.000 The thing about people in the gay community is they look very differently at teenage boy, gay teenage boy men relationships than we do at like teenage girl men relationships. 0.98

00:38:19.000 They look at it very differently.

00:38:21.000 Like Milo got in trouble for that.

00:38:23.000 Is Milo on his on my podcast was talking about this guy that molested him.

00:38:27.000 He's like, trust me, I was the predator.

00:38:30.000 That's what he said.

00:38:30.000 Right.

00:38:32.000 That's a crazy thing to say.

00:38:34.000 But they look at it differently.

00:38:37.000 That's a, I remember someone was, I was living in LA, and we had this gay dude who was sleeping on the, you know, we had a bed in the living room for guests to say over.

00:38:37.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:38:51.000 So he was, he like lived there for like two months.

00:38:53.000 And they were, we were watching Call Me by Your Name.

00:38:56.000 And he, it's like a, it's like a, it's Army Hammer and maybe it's Chalamet.

00:39:00.000 I forgot.

00:39:01.000 My roommates were watching it.

00:39:01.000 I was in and out.

00:39:03.000 But it's like a about a gay story between an older man and a younger boy.

00:39:08.000 And yeah, he he would say he said this red like, he was watching it like, oh, this reads like a fan fiction of an older gay dude being in love with like a younger gay guy.

00:39:19.000 Yeah, it's like a I remember that.

00:39:21.000 I remember him telling us that.

00:39:22.000 I'm like, okay, that's interesting.

00:39:24.000 Well, I mean, it kind of makes sense, right?

00:39:26.000 Because we think very differently of like a high school football player that winds up banging a really hot science teacher.

00:39:33.000 Yeah.

00:39:34.000 You know, you're not mad.

00:39:36.000 You're just like, this is crazy. 0.99

00:39:37.000 That lady's crazy. 1.00

00:39:38.000 She's 35. 1.00

00:39:39.000 She's got two kids. 1.00

00:39:40.000 She fucks a 17-year-old boy in the bathroom. 1.00

00:39:43.000 Yeah, I said that earlier. 1.00

00:39:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:39:44.000 Female pedophiles become teachers. 1.00

00:39:46.000 They find the way. 1.00

00:39:46.000 That is what they do. 1.00

00:39:47.000 It's very, very, very different than the scenario of like the football coach that's banging the cheerleader.

00:39:54.000 That's crazy.

00:39:54.000 Yeah, that's what makes you want to lynch him.

00:39:56.000 Yeah, that's the way it grows.

00:39:58.000 It's weird, right?

00:39:58.000 Yeah.

00:39:59.000 It is weird.

00:39:59.000 Yeah.

00:40:00.000 It's like, yeah, with every, every time there is that, there's a South Park episode about it.

00:40:05.000 Every time you hear that story about, you know, the older teacher fucking the young boy, every guy's kind of like, nice. 0.78

00:40:11.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:40:12.000 Well, you know what?

00:40:12.000 The best joke about it was Zach Alfanakis.

00:40:15.000 He said, do you hear the boy died?

00:40:17.000 Yeah, his friends high-fived him to death.

00:40:25.000 Man, that live at the Purple Onion.

00:40:27.000 Oh, fantastic. 0.99

00:40:29.000 That was a fucking great special. 0.99

00:40:31.000 What is he doing these days? 0.99

00:40:32.000 I have no idea.

00:40:33.000 He was on that show for a while in FX Baskets. 0.90

00:40:36.000 That was really good about the clown.

00:40:37.000 Louie Anderson won the Emmy on it. 0.69

00:40:38.000 He owns a farm somewhere.

00:40:40.000 He has like a farm.

00:40:42.000 I think he's like, he's very smart.

00:40:45.000 Have you ever talked to him?

00:40:46.000 I've never met him.

00:40:47.000 I've never.

00:40:48.000 The only time I saw him, the only time I saw him live was at Brody's Memorial.

00:40:52.000 Yeah, he was real tight with Brody.

00:40:54.000 He is one of the ways that I found out that Brody was off his meds.

00:40:59.000 He contacted me.

00:41:01.000 Do you remember that one time when Brody got real kind of like almost aggressive crazy and was like yelling at people in the audience sometimes?

00:41:08.000 And it got weird.

00:41:09.000 It wasn't like performance arty anymore.

00:41:12.000 It was like, what's happening with Brody?

00:41:14.000 And then he got back and he bounced it out.

00:41:17.000 But Brody had like a legit problem.

00:41:20.000 Whatever it was, whatever his mental health issue was.

00:41:22.000 He needed medication. 0.99

00:41:23.000 Like he was legit crazy.

00:41:26.000 And Zach contacted me and said, it seems like Brody's off his meds, so just don't engage with him. 0.99

00:41:32.000 I was like, damn. 0.99

00:41:32.000 Damn. 0.99

00:41:33.000 Damn. 1.00

00:41:34.000 So it's like, you got to kind of figure out a way to corral him, get him back on his stuff. 0.99

00:41:40.000 But man, when he was in that main room, when he was in that main room, and what was left of the crowd was rocking with him.

00:41:46.000 It was just so much fun just watching him play drums.

00:41:49.000 He came into the improv one night.

00:41:51.000 We were doing a later show, so it was like a 10 o'clock show, and he was on late.

00:41:55.000 And the show was kind of petering out.

00:41:57.000 You know how it does.

00:41:58.000 At the time, it was probably like about half full.

00:42:02.000 And then, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Brody Stevens.

00:42:06.000 Brody takes his shirt off and starts swinging it around in the air like a flag.

00:42:11.000 He goes through the crowd.

00:42:13.000 Let's go.

00:42:14.000 Energy.

00:42:16.000 And then, like, he just gets everybody fired up. 0.96

00:42:19.000 He immediately breaks out the drumsticks, starts fucking drumming on the seat, and then starts telling jokes and just changed the whole tempo of the room. 0.95

00:42:28.000 Like, everything lit up. 0.99

00:42:30.000 It was awesome.

00:42:31.000 It was like, that's what Brody can do.

00:42:33.000 With pure charisma and talent and just personality.

00:42:38.000 And anytime I see him, like, anytime I see a person in the audience like this, all arms crossed, negative.

00:42:42.000 That's all I can think.

00:42:44.000 That's all I can think.

00:42:45.000 It's like, wow, you are giving me negative energy right now for no reason.

00:42:49.000 For no reason.

00:42:50.000 You're at a show.

00:42:51.000 Come and enjoy it.

00:42:52.000 You know, especially when you see it, because I cold open a lot.

00:42:54.000 You see it like, like, you see people be like, why are you?

00:42:58.000 Why'd you come here?

00:42:59.000 Like, impress me.

00:42:59.000 Like, you're already here.

00:43:00.000 Just enjoy.

00:43:01.000 Enjoy the energy.

00:43:02.000 It's a little sometimes for people to loosen up.

00:43:04.000 You have the hardest job when we do those Joe Rogan and Friends shows and you cold open.

00:43:09.000 I've only cold opened a few times over the last few years.

00:43:11.000 Yeah.

00:43:12.000 And over the last 10 years.

00:43:14.000 You got to hypnotize those people.

00:43:14.000 It's hard.

00:43:16.000 You got to slowly work your way into the rhythm of jokes.

00:43:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:43:20.000 You have to sort of like, I like it because it's energy matching.

00:43:22.000 Like, you have to find out where they are, catch onto them, and then bring them to the energy that you want.

00:43:26.000 You know who's really good at it?

00:43:28.000 Yeah.

00:43:28.000 Hans Kim.

00:43:29.000 Really good.

00:43:29.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:43:30.000 It's just straight jokes.

00:43:32.000 It's just straight jokes.

00:43:33.000 And he's funny looking.

00:43:36.000 You know, like he's got a big smile on his face.

00:43:38.000 Like he's having fun.

00:43:39.000 You kind of get into his groove real quick.

00:43:42.000 And, you know, he did so many arenas with me in so many big places.

00:43:45.000 And he was the perfect guy because he would just go, let me tell you something about myself.

00:43:51.000 And then right away, he would take control of the room.

00:43:54.000 It was awesome.

00:43:55.000 Derek's great at bringing him in, too.

00:43:57.000 It's fun watching.

00:43:57.000 It's fun watching the different people, like their different cold open strategies.

00:44:00.000 Derek is just like getting everybody fired up and excitement.

00:44:03.000 And he's so lovable.

00:44:05.000 He's got, again, so much charisma.

00:44:07.000 Right.

00:44:08.000 Yeah.

00:44:08.000 But it's the cold opening for as long as I have done and my career, even pre this club, it's just, it made me, I feel like so much stronger.

00:44:18.000 Because like almost like running with ankle weights on.

00:44:20.000 And then now, like, leading up to me releasing the Too Soon, I was like, oh, I was like, all these spots I was getting at the end of the shows.

00:44:28.000 These were material.

00:44:29.000 This is all material that I tested at the beginning of Rogan and Friends, which, especially at the beginning of the club, a lot of people were like, wait, you're not Rogan talking to a friend.

00:44:40.000 Like, they thought they were coming to a live podcast, but, you know, it took a while before the shows were like, oh, yeah, this is a stand-up show.

00:44:46.000 Really?

00:44:46.000 Yeah.

00:44:47.000 People thought it was going to be a podcast?

00:44:49.000 At the very beginning, there were some episodes where you had to introduce the concept of this is going to be stand-up.

00:44:54.000 Crazy.

00:44:55.000 Yeah, now it's not like that.

00:44:57.000 But at the very beginning, it for sure was.

00:44:59.000 But it was like, I felt my material was battle-tested.

00:45:04.000 Well, it certainly is.

00:45:05.000 That's the running with weights is a great analogy.

00:45:08.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:45:10.000 Yeah, it makes the jokes so much stronger.

00:45:13.000 You know what else is really good for your act?

00:45:14.000 Is hosting.

00:45:15.000 Yeah.

00:45:16.000 Because you go up so often.

00:45:18.000 Like, one of the things that really helped a lot of guys at the store was hosting potluck.

00:45:22.000 Because, you know, you have to, there's all this chaos.

00:45:26.000 Someone just bombed.

00:45:27.000 Something crazy just happened. 0.98

00:45:29.000 Someone just did something completely fucking insane. 0.97

00:45:31.000 You have a chance to make fun of it. 0.95

00:45:33.000 Reset the room.

00:45:34.000 Reset the room.

00:45:35.000 And there's a comfort level that comes because you're essentially doing stand-up from 8 p.m. to 2 a.m.

00:45:41.000 Yes.

00:45:42.000 Yeah, when I first started doing, when I lived in, first was a door guy in Hollywood, Derek was booking the Madhouse, and I would come down and host the weekend shows.

00:45:50.000 So every day I'd host from every weekend or two weekends a month, I would host from 5 to 2 in the morning because you'd host the open mic afterwards.

00:45:57.000 And you just host the entire night.

00:45:59.000 It's a full day's worth of hosting.

00:46:00.000 That's awesome.

00:46:01.000 Yeah.

00:46:02.000 It's like, it's, because the opening spots suck, but like, they make you better. 0.97

00:46:06.000 It's the ones that suck that make you better. 0.95

00:46:08.000 It's definitely, well, you realize like where the sloppy parts of your bits are. 0.98

00:46:12.000 Like you're saying them, you're like, ew.

00:46:14.000 Right.

00:46:15.000 You know, like it gets you.

00:46:16.000 You're like, ooh.

00:46:17.000 Right.

00:46:17.000 Like, whereas when the crowd's popping and they're laughing and everything, they want to laugh.

00:46:21.000 You can get that through and it'll actually get a laugh. 0.93

00:46:23.000 But then when like it's quiet, it's the beginning of the show, you realize, oh, this bit sucks. 0.95

00:46:28.000 Right.

00:46:28.000 Like, oh, I got to bring this bit to the garage.

00:46:31.000 Yeah, I gotta not put it up front.

00:46:34.000 What was I thinking? 0.99

00:46:36.000 I gotta tighten this motherfucker up. 0.98

00:46:38.000 But it's, you know, there's plenty of other spots. 0.99

00:46:41.000 That's the beautiful thing.

00:46:41.000 I mean, we're running four shows a night every night.

00:46:45.000 And there's so much around the scene.

00:46:47.000 There's so much.

00:46:48.000 I was telling someone in LA, it's like, oh, if I chose not to get up 10 spots in front of an audience member in a week at the very least, then I chose that because it's so easy to just go out and get spots.

00:46:59.000 There's so much people and like around in downtown alone, there's like 12 dedicated comedy rooms.

00:47:05.000 It's insane.

00:47:05.000 Did you see, was it Rappaport that got kicked off of a show at Cap City?

00:47:10.000 They canceled his show.

00:47:12.000 They canceled Rappaport.

00:47:13.000 And let me see what the post was because they said something like there's another big club that will have you or something like that.

00:47:19.000 Yeah.

00:47:20.000 Insinuating that we would have him and that he's racist and we would have him.

00:47:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:24.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:24.000 They just assume.

00:47:25.000 They assume the mothership is full of racist people.

00:47:27.000 They don't.

00:47:29.000 But the guy that owns that is the guy that owns Helium.

00:47:31.000 Yeah, but no, not just that.

00:47:33.000 I think that's pervasive around comedy for sure.

00:47:35.000 It's Donson.

00:47:36.000 They're pretending they think that.

00:47:38.000 There's no way they think that.

00:47:39.000 If you just look at the lineup, there's no way they think that.

00:47:41.000 Well, no one's looking at the lineup. 0.92

00:47:42.000 They're really— They're really like, oh, Joe and Tony support Trump, so this must be filled with racist people. 0.85

00:47:46.000 That's what it is.

00:47:47.000 did they say?

00:47:48.000 Can you pull up the...

00:47:50.000 I mean, I think they phrased it in an interesting way.

00:47:55.000 So Austin for Palestine Coalition.

00:47:59.000 That's a rapperport.

00:48:00.000 It's pretty funny.

00:48:00.000 That's a rappaport.

00:48:02.000 He's done canceled.

00:48:04.000 Thank you, Cap City Comedy, and Helium Management for listening to Austin and canceling the racist provocateur Michael Rappaport show at your establishment.

00:48:14.000 Hey, Michael Rappaport, there's a make sure.

00:48:14.000 And so.

00:48:18.000 Yeah, yeah, that's the caption is like, but there's another club that insinuating that we would take.

00:48:23.000 Well, what is this?

00:48:24.000 This is just Austin comedy.

00:48:25.000 That's just someone's account.

00:48:27.000 Yeah, that's what when I first moved here, that was when I, that's how I figured out where all the open mics.

00:48:27.000 It's just someone's account.

00:48:32.000 But they're not even accusing us.

00:48:33.000 It says, pretty sure there's another club or large venue space that will welcome you that aren't run by Helium.

00:48:40.000 So, but there's a lot of places that that's not necessarily, they're saying us.

00:48:46.000 If you still want to make a stop in Austin, just let them know.

00:48:48.000 Most of us here are friendly and won't use politics and hate to cancel silence performers.

00:48:54.000 So that seems like they're kind of saying, like, hey, Michael, come do another spot.

00:49:00.000 Do it somewhere else.

00:49:02.000 I don't think they're accusing him of that.

00:49:05.000 Right.

00:49:05.000 That sounds more supportive of him coming here and saying most of us are friendly and won't use politics and hate to cancel silence performance.

00:49:14.000 So that's not Helium saying that.

00:49:15.000 I guess he's, is he like, I mean, I guess he's outspokenly pro-Israel for this to happen. 0.71

00:49:20.000 Yeah, I'm not paying attention to that dude because I feel like a lot of it is needy.

00:49:25.000 There's a lot of like trying to get attention too hard.

00:49:25.000 You know what I mean?

00:49:28.000 Right.

00:49:29.000 It's like, he's like, I get you.

00:49:32.000 He's not a dumb guy.

00:49:33.000 He's got some really good points.

00:49:35.000 But the problem is if you try too hard and you're doing it all the time, then the good points miss me.

00:49:39.000 Right.

00:49:40.000 They miss me because you're already lost. 1.00

00:49:41.000 You're connected to all that other silly shit. 1.00

00:49:44.000 They're just lost in the sea. 1.00

00:49:45.000 Like, yeah, yeah.

00:49:46.000 Which is good and bad, depending on whether or not you want to be taken seriously.

00:49:50.000 Right.

00:49:50.000 I don't want to be taken seriously.

00:49:51.000 So like if I do UFO shows or Bigfoot shows, like, good.

00:49:55.000 Oh, he believes in dragons.

00:49:57.000 Good.

00:49:58.000 Good.

00:49:58.000 Don't take me seriously.

00:50:00.000 But when you're talking about something like Israel and Palestine, I guess, because it said something citizens for Palestine.

00:50:00.000 Yeah.

00:50:07.000 Yeah, it had to have been.

00:50:08.000 They're not canceling it.

00:50:10.000 The coalition for Palestine is not going out of their way.

00:50:12.000 I had no idea anybody was calling Michael Rappaport racist.

00:50:16.000 Oh, well, yeah.

00:50:17.000 This is the first Michael Rappaport news I've heard in years, if I'm going to be honest.

00:50:20.000 But I had no idea that there was an organized campaign to stop his shows.

00:50:25.000 There must be.

00:50:26.000 If it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, right?

00:50:28.000 Has to be okay.

00:50:32.000 Since early November, our coalition sent several emails.

00:50:35.000 That's all it took.

00:50:37.000 It says they were ignored.

00:50:38.000 While employees had privately shared that they're uncomfortable.

00:50:41.000 Oh, they privately shared that.

00:50:42.000 With anti-Palestinian hate monger Rapaport being hosted, management seems unwilling to listen to their community.

00:50:48.000 That's not necessarily their community.

00:50:50.000 That's just some people in the community.

00:50:53.000 Rappaport isn't just a fanatical Zionist with political views we disagree with. 0.98

00:50:58.000 He's a racist who cruelly mocks dead civilians and children. 0.88

00:51:02.000 He mocks immigrants and supports ICE detentions of people whose viewpoints he dislikes. 0.96

00:51:07.000 Additionally, he has a reputation for being generally disliked by people he's worked with, doxing his political opponents and has been accused of working with Fox News to spread fake propaganda.

00:51:16.000 Okay, this is like a lot.

00:51:18.000 Who wrote this?

00:51:19.000 Austin for Palestine Coalition.

00:51:20.000 So maybe it's just in Austin.

00:51:21.000 Oh, yeah, that's it.

00:51:22.000 Austin for that they got him out of Cap City.

00:51:27.000 Yeah.

00:51:30.000 So what did they go back up at the top of that thing?

00:51:32.000 What is the original?

00:51:34.000 No, The original thing that I read.

00:51:37.000 It said he's mocked. 0.98

00:51:41.000 He's a racist who cruelly mocks dead civilians and children. 0.99

00:51:45.000 Is that true? 0.99

00:51:46.000 I don't think so.

00:51:47.000 We'd have to go through his.

00:51:49.000 It's like when you say something like that.

00:51:49.000 Yeah, that's the thing.

00:51:51.000 Yeah.

00:51:52.000 You just have to take that for face value that he does that if you want to believe that.

00:51:56.000 I've never seen anything like that.

00:51:57.000 I would imagine that if he did something like that, it would go viral.

00:52:01.000 Maybe not.

00:52:01.000 Mocking dead children?

00:52:03.000 Yeah.

00:52:04.000 I mean, maybe not.

00:52:06.000 Probably.

00:52:06.000 In this day and age?

00:52:07.000 Yeah.

00:52:07.000 If he's famous enough for sure.

00:52:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:52:10.000 He's just straight up mocking.

00:52:10.000 Yeah.

00:52:11.000 If you're mocking dead shows.

00:52:12.000 Look, look at the people that mocked Charlie Kirk. 1.00

00:52:15.000 The fucking hate came strong. 1.00

00:52:16.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:52:18.000 They all lost their jobs.

00:52:19.000 They felt the heat.

00:52:20.000 Yeah, immediately.

00:52:21.000 Immediately.

00:52:22.000 Yeah.

00:52:22.000 Yeah, it is fun.

00:52:24.000 Like, the internet makes people very comfortable with putting their initial emotional reaction out for everyone to see.

00:52:30.000 And it's like, Derek talks about, it's like, we got to go back to the times when people were like, oh, you can't post yourself with a red cup because a job might see that and you won't get the job.

00:52:40.000 You just think you're drinking.

00:52:41.000 Yeah, that used to be like, and now people are like just full-on sketches of people dying.

00:52:47.000 And like, you see so many people die just constantly, too.

00:52:50.000 So it's like, everyone's just desensitized to everything.

00:52:52.000 There's a lot of desensitization.

00:52:54.000 There's a lot of people that also live in these echo chambers and they think when they say things.

00:52:59.000 Like, well, who was that one lady that was, she was a CEO somewhere. 1.00

00:53:02.000 She had a very high-level position somewhere.

00:53:04.000 And she posted on her Instagram story, I think, something like that.

00:53:07.000 She posted rest and piss, Charlie Kirk.

00:53:10.000 Like, you're a regular person with a real job.

00:53:10.000 Right.

00:53:14.000 And you're talking about a guy who got murdered and you just wrote rest and piss on the internet because in their bubble, they were saying that kind of stuff.

00:53:21.000 And they thought it was a cool thing to say.

00:53:23.000 Yeah, your algorithm is so designed to just show you what things that agree with you.

00:53:29.000 Right.

00:53:30.000 So everyone gets more and more like, oh, everyone believes this.

00:53:34.000 Everyone, because everyone around me or everyone I perceive to be around me believes that.

00:53:39.000 When really it's just, it's all like half of it's fake.

00:53:42.000 Most of it is just some Pakistani guy.

00:53:44.000 Right.

00:53:45.000 Yeah, somewhere with like a million.

00:53:46.000 And this new AI where you can.

00:53:48.000 Just constant.

00:53:49.000 No, no, no.

00:53:50.000 The new one where you can be any celebrity and it looks exactly like that celebrity.

00:53:55.000 So all your movements, you could be like, you know, Mike from Stranger Things. 0.99

00:54:00.000 Damn. 0.99

00:54:01.000 And it's super accurate. 1.00

00:54:03.000 Damn. 0.97

00:54:04.000 We're getting to the point where like surveillance videos won't be admissible in court. 0.99

00:54:04.000 Like crazy. 0.99

00:54:10.000 Like it's going to be up to there.

00:54:12.000 It'll all have to be on the blockchain.

00:54:15.000 But even that, like, I don't understand the blockchain.

00:54:17.000 Do you?

00:54:18.000 Who knows if something has to be manipulated?

00:54:20.000 See if you can find that video of, because there was one performer who did a series of different people from Stranger Things.

00:54:28.000 He did like Elle from Stranger Things and Mike from Strange Things. 0.98

00:54:31.000 And it's fucking nuts. 0.94

00:54:33.000 The same person, just moving their hands around and talking, and they look exactly like the other person. 0.99

00:54:39.000 Right.

00:54:40.000 So now you're seeing heavily manipulated content.

00:54:42.000 Like, unless you go out of your way to look for another opinion.

00:54:49.000 You're just gonna become entrenched in your own opinion.

00:54:52.000 That's sort of the problem with what's happening right now.

00:54:54.000 Or entrenched in the opinion that they want.

00:54:57.000 Yes, they want to promote. 1.00

00:54:58.000 You're just sort of like, oh, you're just being fed this constant line of like bullshit. 0.98

00:55:02.000 You got to do some like algorithm cleanses. 1.00

00:55:04.000 That's what like fuck like, you know how they could go on juice cleanses. 0.99

00:55:07.000 You got to do that with your algorithm. 0.99

00:55:09.000 I think honestly, what you got to do is stay offline.

00:55:11.000 Yeah.

00:55:12.000 You're going to get got no matter what.

00:55:13.000 Your algorithm is eventually going to catch you again.

00:55:15.000 It's like, I'm going to do a little heroin this time.

00:55:17.000 And then the next thing, you know, you're a full-on heroin junkie.

00:55:20.000 Right, right.

00:55:20.000 For me, it's like, there's so many videos of people getting killed by alligators and lions.

00:55:25.000 They're fake.

00:55:26.000 And they just look a little off.

00:55:29.000 Like the lion jumps in the car and pulls them out.

00:55:31.000 You're like, no.

00:55:32.000 You're like, something's wrong with this.

00:55:34.000 The way people react.

00:55:35.000 Right now, the reactions of people in the background don't match. 0.95

00:55:38.000 That's what's because it used to be you could see the fingers and the fingers would be all fucked up, but they got the fingers pretty down now. 0.82

00:55:38.000 Right. 0.82

00:55:43.000 They're getting better at that.

00:55:44.000 Now it's like you got to look in the, if the people in the background aren't reacting, you're like, okay.

00:55:48.000 Yeah.

00:55:48.000 Like if I was people in the background would react to a guy getting eaten by a lion.

00:55:52.000 I guess they could probably fix that though with a prompt.

00:55:55.000 Well, that would be the next generation.

00:55:57.000 That's going to make it to the next generation.

00:55:58.000 I think it's just, you got to just ask it do a better version.

00:56:02.000 Keep correcting it.

00:56:03.000 Asking it to do better.

00:56:04.000 Kind of fix that.

00:56:05.000 Have you ever done that with a video where you asked it to keep fixing things?

00:56:08.000 It gets overloaded and it just gets worse and worse and worse.

00:56:11.000 If you ask it to fix the, it's not good at making an edit on the video you already have.

00:56:16.000 Oh. 0.87

00:56:17.000 So you can be like, let's say it'll just generate another thing and because it's making a video about a video, everything gets fucked up. 0.96

00:56:22.000 Look at this. 1.00

00:56:24.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:56:26.000 This is crazy, dude. 0.99

00:56:28.000 That one looks kind of AI, but this is like a lot of AI too.

00:56:31.000 That looks a little AI too.

00:56:32.000 It's a little smooth in the face, you know, so it's probably better for, do it again, run it again from the beginning.

00:56:37.000 See, no, the first couple ones might get you.

00:56:40.000 It's when one seems like obviously really fake.

00:56:43.000 You know what the thing is, too?

00:56:44.000 I think it's really good with young people.

00:56:48.000 Like him, it looks fake for some reason.

00:56:49.000 Yeah, when it got there.

00:56:51.000 But then you realize they all look fake after you see one that looks fake.

00:56:54.000 But not that fake.

00:56:55.000 No.

00:56:55.000 It's just if they did the lighting a little better, you know, it looks a little too bright.

00:57:00.000 But yeah, see, I wonder if our perception, because the first three look real.

00:57:03.000 I wonder if our perception would change if they put the one of the guy that looks fake first.

00:57:08.000 You feel what I'm saying?

00:57:09.000 I don't know because this one looks real.

00:57:11.000 Like that looks like her.

00:57:13.000 Like if you just had that one and had her saying a bunch of things, I would think it's her saying a bunch of things. 1.00

00:57:19.000 Well, that's fucking crazy. 1.00

00:57:20.000 We're fucked. 1.00

00:57:21.000 We're fucked. 1.00

00:57:21.000 We're fucked, man. 1.00

00:57:22.000 Anybody who doesn't think we're fucked isn't paying attention. 1.00

00:57:24.000 It's going to get super weird. 0.99

00:57:26.000 Yeah.

00:57:26.000 And how much of that are they going to use on us in the news, you know?

00:57:31.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:34.000 The news is already fucked. 0.99

00:57:36.000 I was thinking about this the other day, how it's crazy that because our algorithms are so different. 0.98

00:57:40.000 I think this is why everyone gets so charged over news things now, is news is the only thing we have in common anymore.

00:57:46.000 Like there's not really a show that like everyone's watching or like a set of shows that everyone's watching.

00:57:51.000 Your algorithm sends you things that you like.

00:57:54.000 So you're completely disconnected entertainment-wise to the people around you.

00:57:58.000 And the only thing you really have in common is what's going on in the world.

00:58:03.000 Because that's the only thing that's consistent.

00:58:03.000 Right.

00:58:05.000 And your opinions on it.

00:58:06.000 What side are you on?

00:58:07.000 Yes.

00:58:08.000 Because everything becomes divided.

00:58:10.000 Yes.

00:58:10.000 And you have to have a take on everything.

00:58:12.000 Yeah.

00:58:12.000 Vaccines, food pyramid, Gaza.

00:58:15.000 Yeah, everything has to have a take.

00:58:16.000 Oh, we were cooked as a, like, companies have to do it.

00:58:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:58:16.000 Yeah.

00:58:19.000 Yeah, I have been saying, like, we've been cooked as a country.

00:58:22.000 I've known we've been cooked as a country ever since Ben and Jerry's had a take on Gaza. 0.52

00:58:25.000 It's like, there's no reason for this.

00:58:26.000 Yeah.

00:58:27.000 There's no reason for this.

00:58:28.000 There's a company trying to sell stuff.

00:58:30.000 There's a lot of incentives for companies to like whatever.

00:58:34.000 What is that ESG score?

00:58:36.000 Is that what it is?

00:58:37.000 What is the score that they give?

00:58:40.000 So companies have DEI scores for favorable loans and for government money.

00:58:46.000 It gets real weird when you start intertwining the it gets real communisty.

00:58:52.000 ESG score evaluates a company's sustainability and ethical impact, measuring its performance in environmental, social, and governance areas, such as carbon footprint, labor practices, and board diversity to help investors and stakeholders access long-term risk and potential.

00:59:09.000 Excuse me, assess long-term risk and potential.

00:59:12.000 Calculated by specialized agencies like MSCI and Sustainalytics.

00:59:19.000 Scores offer them from zero to 100 or letter grades gauge how well a company manages risks in these non-financial areas, influencing reputation, access to capital.

00:59:31.000 This is what's important.

00:59:32.000 And long-term financial performances.

00:59:36.000 So climate change impact, resource use, waste pollution, energy efficiency, employee relations, diversity and inclusion, labor standards.

00:59:45.000 So you're essentially forcing the company to act a certain way.

00:59:50.000 You can't do it completely as a meritocracy.

00:59:53.000 You have to have a representative board of people, which a lot of people agree with.

00:59:57.000 None of those people are exceptional.

00:59:59.000 None of the people are exceptional at their job that agree you should have specific categories of race or gender replace meritocracy.

01:00:06.000 Right.

01:00:07.000 No one really good, male or female, black, white, Asian, whatever.

01:00:11.000 No one really good at their job wants that.

01:00:14.000 No, no, because that just gets in the way.

01:00:16.000 It gets the job.

01:00:17.000 It's like, oh, I have to worry about this social score.

01:00:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:00:21.000 But fuck off. 1.00

01:00:22.000 That's kind of what we're heading towards, right? 1.00

01:00:24.000 Well, it's a less social.

01:00:25.000 With Trump in office, there was a guy who was a CEO of some company that was talking about the gigantic shift in dealing with the government that had occurred right after Trump took office.

01:00:34.000 He was like, it was instantaneous.

01:00:35.000 Like all the restrictions and regulations.

01:00:38.000 And this is one of the problems with California in particular.

01:00:41.000 It's incredibly over-regulated. 0.99

01:00:43.000 So it's really difficult to do anything, which is one of the reasons why so few people have even begun attempting rebuild their fucking house. 0.86

01:00:50.000 There's regulations everywhere for everything. 0.93

01:00:52.000 It's just over-regulated.

01:00:53.000 Wouldn't the government buy a lot of that land or are they trying to buy that land right now in the Palisades?

01:00:58.000 I don't think it's government.

01:00:59.000 I think there was people that were interested in doing like low-income housing.

01:01:06.000 And then there was like whether they were going to carve out things now.

01:01:08.000 They're speculators.

01:01:09.000 And there's that famous video of Newsom standing in front of the rubble of a burning house going, there's been some discussions.

01:01:16.000 He's doing that little dance.

01:01:17.000 Remember that?

01:01:18.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:01:18.000 What a sociopath. 0.99

01:01:20.000 What a freaky dude. 0.99

01:01:21.000 He's running for president.

01:01:22.000 There's no way he's not.

01:01:23.000 Yeah, I mean, absolutely running for president.

01:01:25.000 Good luck, dude. 0.99

01:01:26.000 You think there's a lot of fucking fraud in Minnesota? 0.99

01:01:29.000 Just wait till they start digging deep into the fraud in California. 0.99

01:01:33.000 It's going to take an army of people to do.

01:01:36.000 It's going to take a long time.

01:01:38.000 But look, man, there's so much money missing.

01:01:42.000 They spent $24 billion on the homeless, and they can't account for it.

01:01:49.000 Is it true that Gavin Newsom – let's find out this because I saw this whole article about this that said Gavin Newsom vetoed a bill that would do an audit of where the $24 billion to the homeless went.

01:02:01.000 Well, if their goal was to create more homeless with that money, they did a great job.

01:02:04.000 They did a great job.

01:02:05.000 They did a fantastic job.

01:02:06.000 The crazy thing is they're literally incentivized to have more homeless because the more homeless people they have, the more money goes.

01:02:12.000 Which is what?

01:02:13.000 And then you see the salaries of the people that are working on it.

01:02:18.000 Koleon Noir, my friend, that's a Second Amendment advocate who's a lawyer.

01:02:22.000 He was the first guy to tell me about that because he's a lawyer and he was in San Francisco.

01:02:25.000 And he was like, why is there so many homeless people here?

01:02:27.000 It's like, do they need more money?

01:02:29.000 And his friend, who is a lawyer, goes, No, This whole thing is a racket.

01:02:34.000 The more homeless people you have, the more you have to fund the homeless initiative.

01:02:38.000 And then you have this entire ecosystem that's built around the homeless.

01:02:42.000 Right.

01:02:43.000 And it's just money's going to executives.

01:02:44.000 Millions and millions of dollars.

01:02:45.000 In California, $24 billion.

01:02:48.000 Okay, David Spade was talking about it.

01:02:51.000 This really happened.

01:02:52.000 He blocked bills for an audit multiple times.

01:02:56.000 Bipartisan bill AB 2903 unanimously passed 72 to 0 in the Assembly, 40 to 0 in the Senate, and would have forced annual public reports on where the money went.

01:03:09.000 And Newsom vetoed it.

01:03:10.000 Is there no system in the state?

01:03:12.000 Because it's like if the president vetoes at a federal level, I'm pretty sure if the, I think it goes back, if it goes back to the Senate or the House, they can do a two-thirds vote to pass it anyway.

01:03:23.000 I don't understand.

01:03:24.000 There are legislative ways to override a veto.

01:03:24.000 I don't know.

01:03:26.000 This veto?

01:03:27.000 Federally.

01:03:28.000 I don't know.

01:03:29.000 I don't know about it at a state level.

01:03:30.000 It says Gavin Newsom also vetoed similar bills, AB2570 and AB2093.

01:03:39.000 Wow.

01:03:40.000 Just that is crazy.

01:03:43.000 That money's just gone.

01:03:44.000 $20 billion plus dollars in missing homeless money went.

01:03:49.000 That is really wild, man, that you would veto that, that it passes unanimously.

01:03:55.000 And you're like, nah, playa. 1.00

01:03:57.000 That's fucking gangster, dude. 1.00

01:03:59.000 That's pretty much it. 1.00

01:04:00.000 That's why you become a governor. 0.97

01:04:01.000 It's probably a good move if you're really shitty mayor of a place like San Francisco and you ruin it. 0.96

01:04:06.000 Better be the governor. 0.97

01:04:07.000 Tighten up and stop the investigation. 1.00

01:04:10.000 Stop all the fucking loopholes. 0.99

01:04:11.000 You know, I would call that good gameplay on Newsom's part. 1.00

01:04:15.000 That is what it sends.

01:04:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:18.000 I like looking at politics from an outside perspective.

01:04:19.000 That's some good gameplay right there.

01:04:21.000 It is.

01:04:22.000 If it's a game, that's exactly what you should do.

01:04:23.000 Great move.

01:04:24.000 Yeah, it's a great move.

01:04:25.000 Yeah, and now you sort of can launch yourself as this anti-Trump guy, and you're like, oh, it's trying to get on this pod.

01:04:32.000 The problem is the presidential run is coming.

01:04:35.000 He lies so much, he doesn't remember that he lied.

01:04:38.000 Like, he gets busted. 1.00

01:04:40.000 We've never used the term Latinx because Latinos do not like that Latinx bullshit. 1.00

01:04:47.000 No. 1.00

01:04:47.000 You want to fucking alienate the Mexican-American community? 1.00

01:04:50.000 Start calling them Latinx. 1.00

01:04:52.000 They'll be like, bitch, what the fuck are you saying? 1.00

01:04:55.000 Well, that's fundamentally gendered language. 1.00

01:04:57.000 Yeah, it's fundamentally against their language.

01:04:59.000 That's the whole point.

01:05:00.000 There are female and male things in their language. 0.95

01:05:02.000 It's a gendered language. 0.71

01:05:03.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.96

01:05:04.000 So everyone's crazy.

01:05:06.000 That's crazy.

01:05:08.000 Stop.

01:05:09.000 The really crazy thing is, you know, we were talking last night with Jimmy Carr's friend.

01:05:15.000 What was his name?

01:05:16.000 I forgot his name.

01:05:17.000 Sorry, sir.

01:05:18.000 Fun guy, interesting guy.

01:05:20.000 But we got to talking about the different people that lived in America before Columbus got here, before Cortez got here, before all these Spanish explorers turned the entire country into a Spanish-speaking Catholic country, which is really nuts, man.

01:05:39.000 You know, you want to talk about colonizing.

01:05:41.000 Like, those people in Mexico, oh, we respect their religion, their culture.

01:05:46.000 That's the culture of their oppressors from just a few hundred years ago.

01:05:50.000 Right.

01:05:51.000 They lost 100 different native languages, man.

01:05:54.000 They had so many languages in what is now Mexico, but wasn't even Mexico until 1820. 0.98

01:06:01.000 Like, whatever it was, whatever they called it in the different areas, they had like over 100 different languages just lost in the wind because the fucking conquistadors came through. 0.93

01:06:11.000 Yeah, and outnumbered, they were able to do that. 0.98

01:06:14.000 Bro, this is outnumbered.

01:06:16.000 That's crazy.

01:06:17.000 Bro, they had 13 muskets.

01:06:20.000 That's all they had.

01:06:21.000 600 dudes, 13 muskets. 0.99

01:06:23.000 They burned the boats and took over Mexico. 0.97

01:06:26.000 Crazy.

01:06:27.000 And then to this day, but here's the thing.

01:06:29.000 This is the gift of Gab, too.

01:06:30.000 I was able to convince Montezuma that they were God.

01:06:33.000 Well, they showed up with metal.

01:06:34.000 Yeah, they're wearing armor and they're riding horses.

01:06:37.000 And they're like, this is crazy.

01:06:38.000 These guys are riding horses.

01:06:40.000 And there's like a famous, what was it, La Malinche? was like a female Native American or native to that area who like helped them take them down. 1.00

01:06:48.000 Oh, there's quite a few people that helped him.

01:06:50.000 They were very clever what they did because there wasn't united tribes because the Aztecs were absolutely brutal.

01:06:57.000 One of the Spanish chroniclers, some I forget his name, something Diaz, but one of these Spanish chroniclers before the arrival of Cortez, he was there at the celebration of the completion of one of the temples.

01:07:18.000 I think it was to No Chitlan.

01:07:20.000 And they killed somewhere between 20,000 as the low end and 80,000 as the high end.

01:07:29.000 20,000 to 80,000 people sacrificed in a four-day ceremony.

01:07:35.000 That's pretty gangster.

01:07:36.000 So these are the people that were there.

01:07:38.000 So those are not loved people.

01:07:40.000 Right, right.

01:07:40.000 So it was really easy for them to get the other tribes and go, hey, guys, we got horses.

01:07:45.000 We got 13 muskets.

01:07:46.000 With your help, we can take them down.

01:07:48.000 We can speak Spanish.

01:07:49.000 Yeah.

01:07:52.000 Carnitas.

01:07:53.000 That's wild. 0.99

01:07:55.000 It is a fucking Mexican word, but it's a Spanish word. 0.99

01:07:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:58.000 It's like the language. 1.00

01:08:00.000 They had names like North American, Native American names.

01:08:04.000 Like one guy was a cacao lightning god.

01:08:07.000 That was his name.

01:08:08.000 I did a whole bunch of research on these people because I just got fascinated because one of the things about the Aztecs is a lot of these super complex temples, they didn't build them.

01:08:21.000 They found them.

01:08:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:23.000 We talk about it like they called it the place where the gods were born.

01:08:27.000 Yeah, these sort of like civilizations that clearly probably existed.

01:08:33.000 This is something that I think about is like, okay, so do you know the story of the Achaemenid Persian Empire succession?

01:08:44.000 I don't know it in detail, but I'm aware of a lot of it.

01:08:46.000 Right.

01:08:47.000 So you have Cyrus.

01:08:48.000 He has two kids, Cambyses and Bardia.

01:08:52.000 He splits up the realm between the two. 0.92

01:08:54.000 Cambyses goes off to conquer Egypt, but he's like, well, Bardia is popular, so let me secretly kill him and then go off to Egypt.

01:09:03.000 A Magi priest then impersonates Bardia, takes over the Achaemenid Persian Empire. 0.97

01:09:13.000 He is the ruler now.

01:09:14.000 Cambyses sort of dies on the way back mysteriously.

01:09:18.000 And then an Achaemenid nobleman named Darius is like, hey, this is a Magi imposter, kills Bardia.

01:09:27.000 He's now ruling.

01:09:29.000 Darius leads the Achaemenid Persian Empire to be as big as it can be.

01:09:32.000 And he's the father of Xerxes, the bad guy in 300.

01:09:34.000 So that's – but that is the only official narrative story we have that's from a first – like a primary source.

01:09:44.000 And the only reason we have that is because Darius carved that story in himself into a rock relief.

01:09:49.000 It's called the Vehistun Relief.

01:09:51.000 So that story is basically propaganda.

01:09:54.000 But then 50 years later, it gets picked up by Herodotus, and that becomes the story of the Ascension, right?

01:09:58.000 There's no other primary source on what happened there.

01:10:01.000 You just have to take Darius' word for it.

01:10:03.000 Yeah, and that's in the fifth century.

01:10:03.000 Wow.

01:10:06.000 And the only reason we know that is because someone carved it into a rock.

01:10:10.000 Bro.

01:10:10.000 Right?

01:10:11.000 Like, we're not carving anything in the rocks now.

01:10:14.000 So if, yeah, so if something, let's say something happens to the internet tomorrow and it disappears and then our civilization just vanishes off the earth, a couple people survive and they build a whole new civilization.

01:10:26.000 There's all those lines, is that writing or is that erosion?

01:10:29.000 I believe that's writing.

01:10:30.000 I haven't really.

01:10:31.000 Go back to that primary, the original original internet.

01:10:35.000 I think it's writing.

01:10:37.000 It looks like cuneiform.

01:10:39.000 And it's the way it's, yeah.

01:10:42.000 But that's the only reason we know something that happened from that time is because this exists.

01:10:45.000 And we have no idea if it's true.

01:10:47.000 Yeah, we have no idea if it's true, but no one's even carving anything into stone for us.

01:10:51.000 Right.

01:10:52.000 Yeah, look at it.

01:10:53.000 There's no way.

01:10:53.000 Yeah.

01:10:54.000 How dope is that language?

01:10:56.000 Look how cool that looks.

01:10:58.000 Look how cool that looks.

01:10:59.000 That's how people used to write things down, man.

01:11:02.000 Right.

01:11:03.000 Can AI like find there's got to be some of these.

01:11:07.000 Like I know there's one from Easter Island that they can't decipher.

01:11:10.000 Oh, you've seen that one?

01:11:12.000 No.

01:11:12.000 Graham Hancock explained it.

01:11:15.000 And what he said was essentially the island, it was a very small island.

01:11:18.000 They got raided by slavers, and they took everyone except for like 100 people.

01:11:23.000 And the people that they took and enslaved, they were the ones who knew how to read this language.

01:11:26.000 And then this language was lost forever.

01:11:28.000 Right.

01:11:29.000 There's one piece of like wood where, yeah, that's it.

01:11:32.000 Where it's written on.

01:11:34.000 Look how dope their language looks.

01:11:36.000 Like, zoom in.

01:11:37.000 Like, how crazy is that, man?

01:11:40.000 Like, what are they saying?

01:11:42.000 And we don't know.

01:11:43.000 Like, I wonder if they could throw that through AI and get sort of an understanding of what these symbols were.

01:11:49.000 But you'd have to have a base.

01:11:50.000 Like, that was the thing about the Rosetta Stone.

01:11:52.000 The Rosetta Stone really helped people in Egypt because you're like, oh, this is how it's written in Greek.

01:11:57.000 And this is, okay, now we know what it's said in multiple languages.

01:12:02.000 Now we get an understanding of it.

01:12:04.000 Yeah.

01:12:04.000 But so the overall point being, though, is like in our time, if the internet disappears and we're gone, there's nothing from this time that's really being recorded.

01:12:14.000 It'll just be lost.

01:12:15.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:16.000 All the hard drive stuff gone.

01:12:17.000 Yeah, just be lost.

01:12:18.000 We'll have to relearn things.

01:12:20.000 Yeah, but our time, the Americans, there'll just be some ancient thing that people might not know ever existed.

01:12:25.000 It says about the, it's called the wrongorongo, wrongorongo, a glyph-based script from Easter Island remains undeciphered despite over a century of study.

01:12:38.000 Imagine you're studying it for a century.

01:12:39.000 Yeah, because people's whole lives have been dedicated to this.

01:12:42.000 No one knows exactly what it says, as all attempts to translate it fully have failed, with scholars debating if it's true writing or proto-writing used as a memory aid.

01:12:53.000 A memory aid.

01:12:54.000 Yeah, lines alternate direction, often upside down.

01:12:56.000 Oh, so that's so hard.

01:12:58.000 Even the direction is ever-changing.

01:13:01.000 You're not writing right to left.

01:13:02.000 You're just kind of going wherever you want with it.

01:13:04.000 What is the latest on the Voynich manuscripts?

01:13:07.000 Has anybody thrown that through AI to try to see if it makes any sense?

01:13:11.000 Do you know about that?

01:13:12.000 Yeah, were they found on a guy?

01:13:14.000 Was that one of them?

01:13:15.000 No, it's some weird book.

01:13:17.000 And the question is whether or not this book is just complete gibberish and nonsense or whether it's some lost language.

01:13:24.000 And it's really detailed, too.

01:13:27.000 Where was it found?

01:13:28.000 It's a good question.

01:13:29.000 I don't remember.

01:13:30.000 Published Nabi Cipher.

01:13:34.000 Is that what it's called?

01:13:37.000 Published November 26, 2025 in Cryptologia by science journalist Michael Greshko introduced the Nabi Cipher, which uses 14th century Italian playing cards and dice to encode Latin or Italian text into glyphs mimicking the Voignitz manuscripts Voyniches.

01:13:56.000 This cipher replicates key statistical features like glyph frequencies, word lengths, grammar rules suggesting a similar medieval method could have generated the original 15th century text, although it does not decode it.

01:14:11.000 Wow.

01:14:13.000 Have you seen it?

01:14:14.000 See if you can find images of it.

01:14:15.000 It's freaky.

01:14:16.000 Where was it found?

01:14:17.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:14:17.000 That's a really good question.

01:14:19.000 Let's find that out.

01:14:20.000 Voinich ninja.

01:14:20.000 There's like groups dedicated to this.

01:14:22.000 Oh, people are obsessed with it.

01:14:23.000 I mean, they've been.

01:14:24.000 That's a fun thing.

01:14:24.000 This is a fun thing to be obsessed with.

01:14:26.000 Just do me a favor and just go back to Perplexity and say, how was it discovered?

01:14:32.000 Yeah.

01:14:33.000 I'm curious.

01:14:36.000 Because I feel like someone had it and someone bought it from someone.

01:14:43.000 I could have been wrong.

01:14:44.000 I thought it was found on a body.

01:14:46.000 I could be wrong about that.

01:14:47.000 I might be thinking of another thing.

01:14:48.000 It was rediscovered in 1912 by Polish-American rare books dealer Wilfred Voynich.

01:14:53.000 Okay.

01:14:53.000 He named it himself.

01:14:54.000 What a clever guy.

01:14:55.000 I like that. 1.00

01:14:56.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:14:56.000 Something of my mind. 1.00

01:14:57.000 Mine, bitch. 1.00

01:14:58.000 They say you die. 1.00

01:14:59.000 The second time you die is when someone says your name last, so we're just keeping him alive.

01:15:02.000 He acquired it from the Jesuit college in Frascati, Italy, as a part of a batch of 30 manuscripts discreetly sold amidst the Jesuits' financial difficulties. 0.99

01:15:15.000 How many of these motherfuckers in the Vatican are sitting on some shit that they don't have to sell? 0.99

01:15:20.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:15:21.000 Like, change the world completely.

01:15:23.000 Carbon dating places its creation around 1404 to 1438, likely in northern Italy.

01:15:23.000 Yeah.

01:15:30.000 Emperor Rudolph II bought it in the late 1500s for 600 gold ducats, possibly from John Dee.

01:15:38.000 It later passed to Jacobus.

01:15:40.000 How about this guy's name?

01:15:41.000 Jacobus Horsicki Depenez.

01:15:47.000 Deep Eastern European stuff.

01:15:48.000 That's Depenex.

01:15:50.000 You can't even.

01:15:52.000 There's some names like Johanna Jonječek.

01:15:55.000 If you saw the way it's written, there's no way you would pronounce it.

01:15:58.000 Any of those Eastern European names.

01:15:59.000 It's like, how did you even get that?

01:16:01.000 Stayed in Jesuit hands until 1912.

01:16:04.000 He publicized the undeciphered codex now at Yale's Beineke Library, sparking global interest despite failed decoding attempts.

01:16:14.000 Pull up some images of it so you can see what it looks like.

01:16:18.000 It's real weird, man.

01:16:20.000 It's real weird.

01:16:21.000 It has detailed illustrations.

01:16:23.000 Of like plants and stuff.

01:16:24.000 Oh, here we go.

01:16:25.000 Here's a little video.

01:16:27.000 So you could see how cool it looks when they're opening up the book. 0.85

01:16:31.000 Anything that you're getting that's a book that's from the fucking 1400s, 1200? 0.86

01:16:36.000 When is it from? 0.96

01:16:37.000 1500 or 1500s?

01:16:39.000 15th century, 1400s.

01:16:40.000 So the 1400s. 0.97

01:16:41.000 Any book that you're getting from the 1400s is fucking wild as it is. 1.00

01:16:45.000 Just imagine these fucking people living back then, writing this shit down with a feather. 1.00

01:16:50.000 Just touching it with her bare hands, huh? 1.00

01:16:52.000 Yeah, you have to.

01:16:53.000 It's actually worse to do it with gloves.

01:16:55.000 Really?

01:16:56.000 Yeah, they found out that gloves, the rubber is more abrasive.

01:17:01.000 And your finger.

01:17:01.000 The oils of your fingers are actually more protective or something along those lines.

01:17:05.000 Wow.

01:17:06.000 Look how cool that looks, though.

01:17:07.000 And they don't know if that's a real language.

01:17:10.000 That's what's nuts.

01:17:11.000 You can't decode it.

01:17:14.000 This is a good YouTube rabbit hole.

01:17:15.000 It's a good one.

01:17:16.000 Yeah.

01:17:16.000 It's an interesting one because people say it's a hoax, but the thing about it is if it's a hoax, it's like really well done and very complex and like an incredible amount of time.

01:17:26.000 The fact that it's still tripping up people now, it's like it's an all-time great hoax then.

01:17:31.000 Sort of, but think about how many languages we've lost.

01:17:34.000 Like we just talked about 100 languages were lost somewhere around that in what is now considered Mexico.

01:17:40.000 Now, you know, think about the rest of the world.

01:17:42.000 Like, here's another instance.

01:17:45.000 Mobs of Indigenous people in Australia, the Aborigines. 1.00

01:17:49.000 Right.

01:17:49.000 So they call themselves mobs.

01:17:51.000 And, you know, instead of a tribe.

01:17:53.000 And they have mobs that will live six, ten kilometers away that speak a completely different language.

01:18:00.000 And they're all over the place.

01:18:02.000 And they don't have these things written anywhere.

01:18:06.000 So there's a bunch of their languages that are just spoken orally.

01:18:10.000 And they will disappear.

01:18:11.000 And we don't know how many languages there are.

01:18:13.000 Like my friend Adam Greentry, who used to own a mining company in Australia, and he employed a lot of Aborigines, and he knows a lot about the culture.

01:18:21.000 And he was like, dude, it's the craziest history because a lot of it is not written down, and there's a lot of horrible tragedy and genocide attached to it.

01:18:32.000 There's a cave that you can go to where they gave this mob of Aborigines poisoned food on purpose, like a whole crew of them. 1.00

01:18:39.000 And so there's like just their bones are in this cave still to this day. 0.98

01:18:43.000 He goes, dude, it's the darkest fucking thing you've ever seen in your life. 0.97

01:18:46.000 You think about this family and their children, they're starving. 0.99

01:18:48.000 And these people, these white people in Australia, were essentially prisoners that England shipped over there.

01:18:55.000 Right. 0.78

01:18:55.000 Just gave them poison. 0.78

01:18:56.000 And just damn. 1.00

01:19:00.000 That's yeah. 1.00

01:19:01.000 Damn. 1.00

01:19:02.000 And they got, bro, they got some crazy rock art. 1.00

01:19:06.000 You ever see the glyphs of like alien-looking dudes and shit.

01:19:11.000 And like, yeah, there's like people with like rockets that look like they're in rocket ships and spacesuits. 0.64

01:19:15.000 What?

01:19:15.000 What information, what stories, what is their version of the Bible that we missed?

01:19:20.000 Well, it's probably they never wrote it down.

01:19:22.000 Yeah, there's something to do with a large flood that seems to be consistent.

01:19:25.000 I hope he had that.

01:19:26.000 Yeah, something to do with a large flood and something to do with some sort of either dragon or serpent type bad guy.

01:19:32.000 Right.

01:19:34.000 Those are the two main consistent things across most cultures: some large flood event and some snake.

01:19:41.000 Yeah.

01:19:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:43.000 Yeah, that's all.

01:19:44.000 And I wonder what the snake in the Bible really looked like.

01:19:46.000 Because in the Adam and Eve story, anytime you see a picture point painted of it, it's painted as a snake.

01:19:52.000 But the snake's punishment was it lost its limbs.

01:19:55.000 So this was a dragon.

01:19:59.000 Right, because the snake, the snake's punishment was it has to live on the ground.

01:20:03.000 But is that the snake's punishment forever?

01:20:05.000 Is that like why God did that to the snakes, period?

01:20:08.000 I think so.

01:20:09.000 I think that's the whole that's what that is.

01:20:12.000 Doesn't that just explain what a snake looks like rather than describe a dragon?

01:20:17.000 Like, why doesn't it have limbs?

01:20:18.000 God took away its limbs.

01:20:20.000 That's what you're saying.

01:20:21.000 Maybe it's maybe it's reversed.

01:20:22.000 Maybe it seems like it's reversed.

01:20:24.000 Yeah, maybe I just really wanted to be a dragon.

01:20:25.000 Yeah, it seems like they don't get to have legs.

01:20:27.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:20:28.000 How come you don't get to have wings, bitch? 1.00

01:20:33.000 You know, because if you really think about it, like, there's so many different stories. 0.99

01:20:38.000 This is why, like, you know, the view, like, that's that famous Joy Behart clip.

01:20:42.000 He believes in dragons.

01:20:43.000 That's a great clip.

01:20:44.000 Yeah, it's awesome.

01:20:45.000 It comes out of a conversation that I had with Forrest Gallant, who's a wildlife biologist.

01:20:49.000 He's like, there's a lot of depictions of these flying serpents and large serpents with wings all over the world.

01:20:58.000 It's weird.

01:20:59.000 Right.

01:21:00.000 It is really weird.

01:21:01.000 Yeah, it's like a thing.

01:21:02.000 It's really weird.

01:21:03.000 And we know some dinosaurs flew.

01:21:06.000 So there might have been some.

01:21:07.000 You think there's some sort of cross?

01:21:08.000 Well, here's the thing: the Congo has had a legend of some sort of a large dinosaur-like creature forever, to the point where explorers have made their way into the Congo to try to find this thing.

01:21:22.000 That resembles, I think it resembles a bronosaurus that could fly?

01:21:22.000 Okay.

01:21:27.000 No, no, no.

01:21:28.000 That was in the jungle.

01:21:30.000 So the question is: is it possible that a creature could live for an extended period of time and then, you know, maybe in the 1100s or 1,000 years ago or whatever, 2,000 years ago, they slaughtered them all and killed them off.

01:21:44.000 Like, maybe it, maybe they have a long gestation period, like an elephant.

01:21:48.000 Maybe.

01:21:49.000 Maybe it's possible they realized these things were a threat.

01:21:51.000 They knew where they'd end up.

01:21:52.000 There was a small population anywhere and they killed them off.

01:21:55.000 Maybe.

01:21:56.000 Maybe.

01:21:57.000 It's not likely.

01:21:59.000 There's no bones.

01:22:00.000 There's no nothing.

01:22:01.000 But there's no bones of most things.

01:22:03.000 That's the thing.

01:22:04.000 Most things that die do not leave a fossil.

01:22:07.000 And then they find things that they thought were extinct.

01:22:11.000 Not just extinct, but extinct for millions and millions of years.

01:22:14.000 One of them is the coelacanth.

01:22:16.000 You know about the coelacanth?

01:22:17.000 So the coelacanth is this crazy-looking dinosaur fish that is unchanged from, God, I want to say, tens of millions of years.

01:22:17.000 No.

01:22:28.000 I don't know how old, but when you look at it, you're like, yo, look at that thing.

01:22:32.000 And then they caught one once.

01:22:34.000 They caught it.

01:22:35.000 Like, I don't know, it was a fishing net or a fishing boat, but they caught one.

01:22:39.000 And then they realized, like, oh my God, these things are still alive.

01:22:42.000 Like, we thought this was a part of the fossil record. 0.99

01:22:44.000 Damn. 0.98

01:22:45.000 And then they realized that there's parts of the ocean that we just haven't explored and these things. 0.99

01:22:49.000 And then they've caught a bunch of them since.

01:22:51.000 And then other fishermen have caught them.

01:22:53.000 But it's a very deep, deep sea creature that is really ancient.

01:22:57.000 And they found they.

01:22:58.000 How old is the coelacanth?

01:23:00.000 Like, how long has it been around for?

01:23:04.000 Man, that's so.

01:23:06.000 I hope I'm saying the word right.

01:23:07.000 That's so wild to not find one for years and then all of a sudden you just find a bunch.

01:23:10.000 Well, they found a few.

01:23:12.000 Well, now that they know they exist, they're looking for them.

01:23:14.000 And then they're fishing to that area and they caught them.

01:23:16.000 But can you show me an image of the coelacanth?

01:23:20.000 Oh, I think there's a there's a YouTube channel that I think you'd really like called like I think it's called like it's a it just goes and looks through what the earth looked like in every like in different eras.

01:23:33.000 So that's that freaky fish.

01:23:35.000 Oh yeah, I've seen this.

01:23:36.000 It's got like these crazy scales on it.

01:23:36.000 It's armored.

01:23:38.000 It just looks like a throwback.

01:23:43.000 So three, hold up, go up.

01:23:46.000 Relatives being the first left seas 385.

01:23:49.000 Okay.

01:23:51.000 So they're not our direct ancestors, but they're still relatives of beings that first left the seas.

01:23:57.000 They left the sea 385 million years ago and became four-legged terrestrial animals. 0.96

01:24:02.000 Damn, and this is like, this is like a common link. 0.92

01:24:04.000 So what they're saying is there's creatures that left, so something like that left the sea 385 million years ago and became four-legged terrestrial animals from which we sprung. 0.98

01:24:16.000 And these relatives are still alive today.

01:24:18.000 So how long has the coelacanth been around?

01:24:24.000 So it's 188 pounds.

01:24:25.000 In 1938, floating off the South African coast, the Indian Ocean, fishermen from the urban caught an unknown creature.

01:24:25.000 So they caught it.

01:24:34.000 It weighed 188 pounds, five feet in length, dark blue in color, and unabashedly chomped its jaws. 0.85

01:24:42.000 This was not a fish, not just any fish, that scales, fins, and limbs, or more precisely, rudiments thereof.

01:24:50.000 Moreover, there were seven of them, two in the back, three on the belly, and another pair on the head.

01:24:56.000 They had limbs on their head. 0.99

01:24:58.000 Damn. 1.00

01:24:58.000 Whoa. 1.00

01:24:59.000 Should we know the local population occasionally caught these creatures and even come up with a name for them, Gombesa, which can be translated as bitter fish.

01:25:07.000 I love that.

01:25:07.000 Just eat it first.

01:25:08.000 Find out later.

01:25:09.000 The residents knew that it was nearly inedible.

01:25:12.000 It was consumed due to the belief that its meat helped to cope with malaria symptoms.

01:25:16.000 Yo.

01:25:17.000 Although it was possible to make something like sandpaper from their extremely strong and bristly scales.

01:25:22.000 So when did they think when?

01:25:25.000 Look at what it looked like.

01:25:26.000 That's crazy.

01:25:28.000 That's wild.

01:25:29.000 That thing.

01:25:30.000 Oh, it looks scary.

01:25:31.000 It looks like a monster.

01:25:32.000 With all those weird appendages eventually made its way onto land.

01:25:37.000 Yeah.

01:25:37.000 Nuts, man.

01:25:39.000 How long ago was that?

01:25:41.000 Like, how long did they think that thing had been extinct for?

01:25:46.000 No, you'd have to look that up.

01:25:47.000 That's a different question.

01:25:48.000 Yeah.

01:25:49.000 Just put into perplexity the history of the coelacanth.

01:25:56.000 I was trying to find out how to spell it.

01:25:59.000 Okay, here we go. 1.00

01:26:00.000 How old is this motherfucker? 1.00

01:26:04.000 420 million years. 1.00

01:26:06.000 Wow.

01:26:07.000 Rediscovered. 1.00

01:26:08.000 Damn, bro. 1.00

01:26:09.000 That's wild. 1.00

01:26:10.000 Wow.

01:26:12.000 They thought it had been extinct for 66 million years.

01:26:15.000 And it was just living.

01:26:17.000 Whoa.

01:26:18.000 Dude, to live that long, that's pretty crazy.

01:26:21.000 That's incredible.

01:26:23.000 Yeah, that's...

01:26:24.000 That's incredible.

01:26:25.000 Mm-hmm.

01:26:26.000 So...

01:26:26.000 So this thing that was alive 400 million years ago is still alive today.

01:26:31.000 They thought it was extinct for 68 million years.

01:26:34.000 Is it possible that there's something else like that that's on land?

01:26:39.000 Less likely, I think.

01:26:40.000 I think ocean is more likely.

01:26:42.000 Well, it's more undiscovered, right?

01:26:44.000 Not just that, it's also more protective of environmental change, right? 0.95

01:26:48.000 So it's probably less dependent on all the, like, especially if you're a sea predator, you're probably less dependent on, you know, all the plants growing and nuclear winter that's happening on the fucking surface. 0.96

01:26:59.000 Right. 0.96

01:27:00.000 Where everything dies off and the ice age comes and it's fucking meteor dust everywhere. 0.99

01:27:05.000 You got pelts. 0.99

01:27:05.000 Right. 0.99

01:27:06.000 You can survive a lot of stuff like climate change.

01:27:07.000 You're not worried about that, really.

01:27:09.000 Probably you are, but it's probably something, more things would probably survive in the ocean, I would imagine.

01:27:15.000 Yeah, that makes more sense.

01:27:16.000 Like, how old are alligators and crocodiles?

01:27:19.000 Aren't they like, aren't like, isn't like, aren't like sharks older than trees or something?

01:27:22.000 Older than trees.

01:27:23.000 Yeah, older than trees. 1.00

01:27:26.000 It's such a mind fuck to think about. 0.99

01:27:27.000 Yeah, there's something that can be older than trees. 0.99

01:27:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:30.000 Yeah, and they still are essentially in the same form. 0.99

01:27:33.000 Just fucking swimming, eating machines. 1.00

01:27:36.000 Apex predators forever. 1.00

01:27:37.000 You hear about that lady off Santa Cruz that got got the other day? 1.00

01:27:40.000 No, but have you read that book about the I read that book about the shark attacks in 1916?

01:27:44.000 Oh, yeah, New Jersey. 0.99

01:27:45.000 Yeah, close to the shore where it's like, oh, damn. 0.99

01:27:47.000 It's like a river. 0.99

01:27:48.000 Yeah, it went in a freshwater river.

01:27:50.000 Yeah.

01:27:51.000 But they also didn't think sharks were dangerous at that time.

01:27:53.000 That's so crazy.

01:27:54.000 Like, that was in that time.

01:27:56.000 They were like, there were people like, oh, sharks, they're just like sea puppies.

01:27:59.000 They'll leave you alone.

01:28:00.000 That was the thought.

01:28:01.000 Part of the reason why that stuck out to people were like, oh, sharks are like dangerous creatures.

01:28:07.000 Yeah, especially bull sharks.

01:28:08.000 Because bull sharks are the ones that can swim all the way up to, like, they made their way to Illinois.

01:28:14.000 And they're just as, they're more aggressive than the Great Whites, right? 1.00

01:28:14.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:28:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:28:17.000 They're hyper aggressive.

01:28:18.000 But they make their way all the way up freshwater rivers.

01:28:21.000 All the way up.

01:28:22.000 Into like cold environments. 0.99

01:28:24.000 Fucking Illinois had bull sharks in freshwater. 0.98

01:28:27.000 Just can a freshwater shark is just how bad luck do you, how much of a bad luck do you have to be in a river and get attacked by a shark? 0.99

01:28:35.000 It was your time to go.

01:28:36.000 You got your legs dangling out of an inner tube.

01:28:39.000 Yeah.

01:28:40.000 Just crazy.

01:28:41.000 And all of a sudden you feel this sharp pain and you see red in the water and you realize your leg's gone.

01:28:45.000 Yeah, it takes you a second to realize your leg is gone too because it's so sharp and so slices through and you don't expect it.

01:28:51.000 Jeez, yeah.

01:28:52.000 Well, we were not expecting a shark in the lake.

01:28:54.000 And you look down, you see the white of your kneecap.

01:28:57.000 Everything underneath it is just torn tissue. 1.00

01:28:59.000 And fuck. 1.00

01:29:00.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:29:01.000 Yeah.

01:29:01.000 They didn't think it was dangerous at the time.

01:29:04.000 Like that.

01:29:04.000 That's crazy.

01:29:05.000 It's so wild all the way up until 1916.

01:29:05.000 That's so wild.

01:29:07.000 In fact, some people thought sharks were just something that sailors made up.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, just like, oh, this giant sea creature that'll eat you.

01:29:11.000 Whoa.

01:29:15.000 They don't know what they're talking about.

01:29:16.000 Or like, this is just a sea myth.

01:29:17.000 Well, it's also when you think about it, when people came to America, because there's no sharks in England, there's no sharks in Ireland.

01:29:23.000 They don't have a problem over there.

01:29:23.000 Right.

01:29:25.000 So when they came to America, there was only like we're talking about this shark attack was in the early 1900s, right?

01:29:33.000 Yes, 1916.

01:29:34.000 So think about that.

01:29:35.000 There's only like a couple hundred years of people even being here.

01:29:38.000 Right.

01:29:39.000 And that year was like a perfect storm of like the beach became like an acceptable thing to go lounge at.

01:29:46.000 Before that, it wasn't a thing.

01:29:48.000 Even tried to twist it to say that it was trying to attack a dog, not the person.

01:29:52.000 The person was in the way.

01:29:53.000 It hates dogs.

01:29:53.000 No.

01:29:55.000 What?

01:29:56.000 It does lay out certain things like if you are swimming with a dog, you're more likely to get attacked by a shark.

01:30:03.000 And it's like something like a full moon.

01:30:03.000 Interesting.

01:30:06.000 Like the moon really regulates sharks' emotions.

01:30:08.000 So like more shark attacks happen on full moons and stuff. 1.00

01:30:11.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:30:11.000 There's certain things. 1.00

01:30:12.000 Yeah, apparently having the dog, they never attack the dog.

01:30:15.000 But the dog attracts the, something about how they swim attacks.

01:30:15.000 Really?

01:30:18.000 Dogs don't get killed by sharks.

01:30:20.000 They will attack the person.

01:30:22.000 Really?

01:30:23.000 Mm-hmm.

01:30:24.000 Wow.

01:30:25.000 The book lays it out.

01:30:26.000 There is something, there is like a coordinated, like there are a bunch of different factors that sort of apply to that.

01:30:34.000 Whoa.

01:30:36.000 I don't think there's anything alive right now that is, you know, dinosaur-like.

01:30:42.000 But I wonder how long they stuck around for.

01:30:46.000 How long some of them stayed short of the future?

01:30:47.000 Just the last festivities.

01:30:49.000 If crocodiles and alligators didn't exist, like let's just imagine crocodiles didn't exist.

01:30:54.000 The big ones, the Nile crocodiles.

01:30:56.000 Let's imagine no one thought there was a crocodile.

01:30:58.000 It's nonsense.

01:30:59.000 And then one day someone got a video of one in the Congo.

01:31:03.000 You'd be like, no, dinosaurs are real.

01:31:06.000 Right.

01:31:06.000 That's a dinosaur.

01:31:08.000 That is a straight up dinosaur.

01:31:10.000 Yeah, it's a giant lizard.

01:31:12.000 That is technically what's left.

01:31:12.000 That is.

01:31:14.000 This dude, Josh Bomar, he's a bow hunter and he just killed a world record crocodile.

01:31:19.000 And I think it was in Tanzania.

01:31:21.000 Actually, I think he might have did it like two years ago.

01:31:24.000 This thing is so big.

01:31:27.000 I think it's like 17 feet long and it's probably over 100 years old.

01:31:33.000 He killed it with a bow.

01:31:35.000 Look at the size of that thing. 0.98

01:31:36.000 God.

01:31:37.000 Now, imagine if that thing didn't exist.

01:31:40.000 If no one thought that that thing existed.

01:31:43.000 And then you saw that.

01:31:44.000 You'd be like, yeah, that's a, yeah.

01:31:46.000 You'd be like, that's a monster that I saw.

01:31:47.000 Like, look at the size of that thing, man.

01:31:49.000 Like, if nobody went to Tanzania ever, if it was just a place that no one went to, and then people went there and they saw that, they're like, oh my God, dinosaurs are still alive. 0.99

01:31:59.000 Because that's a fucking dinosaur. 0.99

01:31:59.000 Right. 0.99

01:32:01.000 Yeah, that's a full stop.

01:32:04.000 Yeah, you'd be absolutely afraid.

01:32:05.000 You can call it a crocodile, whatever.

01:32:07.000 It's a species of dinosaurs that made it.

01:32:09.000 It's still here.

01:32:10.000 Like, when did crocodiles first evolve?

01:32:13.000 83 to 95 million years ago, late Cretaceous.

01:32:17.000 Younger than the coelacanth.

01:32:18.000 Crazy.

01:32:18.000 Yeah.

01:32:19.000 Up to 250 million years ago.

01:32:20.000 Still younger than the coelacanth.

01:32:22.000 By 100 million years. 0.99

01:32:23.000 Well, it's probably the ancestor that came to shore and eaten shit. 0.99

01:32:26.000 Right, right. 0.99

01:32:27.000 If everything came out of the ocean, allegedly.

01:32:31.000 Ooh, okay, there is something.

01:32:32.000 So there's something that I do.

01:32:34.000 It's like a gratefulness thing that I do every year because it's like, this is like a big moment for me in my career.

01:32:38.000 I just released the special.

01:32:40.000 I'm walking away from the, I'm like not working social media at the club anymore.

01:32:43.000 I'm like making steps out.

01:32:45.000 So this is a YouTube video that I watch.

01:32:48.000 Every time something like sort of big happens to me or like I'm a crossroads and it's have you ever seen it's Mr. Rogers Emmy acceptance speech.

01:32:55.000 Have you seen this?

01:32:56.000 No.

01:32:57.000 Can we pull that up, Jamie?

01:32:57.000 Okay.

01:32:59.000 And it's like a three-minute video, but like genuinely, because I'm going to do it too, I want you to do what he says.

01:33:06.000 Okay.

01:33:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:33:07.000 It's just a quick little thing.

01:33:08.000 Okay.

01:33:09.000 And I'm.

01:33:09.000 Yeah.

01:33:10.000 All right.

01:33:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:33:11.000 Let's see it.

01:33:12.000 For giving generation upon generation of children confidence in themselves,

01:33:33.000 for being their friend, for telling them again and again and again that they are special and that they have worth.

01:33:44.000 It is my honor on behalf of everyone here and on behalf of the millions of children whose mornings you have brightened with your kindness to present you with this lifetime achievement award.

01:34:10.000 Oh, it's a beautiful night in this neighborhood.

01:34:16.000 So many people have helped me to come to this night.

01:34:20.000 Some of you are here, some are far away, some are even in heaven.

01:34:28.000 All of us have special ones who have loved us into being.

01:34:33.000 Would you just take along with me 10 seconds to think of the people who have helped you become who you are?

01:34:45.000 Those who have cared about you and wanted what was best for you in life.

01:34:52.000 10 seconds of silence.

01:34:54.000 I'll watch the time.

01:35:10.000 Whomever you've been thinking about, how pleased they must be to know the difference you feel they've made.

01:35:19.000 You know, they're the kind of people television does well to offer our world.

01:35:25.000 Special thanks to my family and friends and to my co-workers in public broadcasting, family communications, and this academy for encouraging me, allowing me all these years to be your neighbor.

01:35:46.000 May God be with you.

01:35:48.000 Thank you very much.

01:35:50.000 He seemed like the real deal.

01:35:51.000 Yeah.

01:35:52.000 Yeah.

01:35:54.000 You thought nothing ever came out about him.

01:35:55.000 Yeah, for real, right?

01:35:56.000 He was like a Jimmy Saville.

01:35:57.000 I just, I'm happy he was the real deal.

01:35:59.000 He really does seem like he is.

01:36:01.000 Who'd you think about?

01:36:02.000 Oh, do I want to say it publicly?

01:36:04.000 Oh, yeah, you don't have to.

01:36:06.000 Oh, you know, family.

01:36:08.000 Yeah.

01:36:09.000 Resource people.

01:36:11.000 But, you know, you and I in particular are very fortunate.

01:36:15.000 We have a lot of people that help us be who we are.

01:36:18.000 Yes.

01:36:18.000 You know, and that is like the one thing that I think we really highlight at the club is that we really are all happy.

01:36:26.000 We really are all lucky.

01:36:28.000 And we really enjoy our time together.

01:36:32.000 And we feed off of each other.

01:36:34.000 I'm so happy too.

01:36:35.000 Like the way this, I would say the scene is like incredibly, incredibly supportive of each other in a way that like it's nice, I guess, in this sort of new system that we live in too, where like you can just make it on your own.

01:36:47.000 You don't need, like, I'm not auditioning for a spot that like Fuzzy's auditioning for because we're both brown. 0.98

01:36:53.000 Right.

01:36:54.000 You know what I mean?

01:36:54.000 Like in the old days.

01:36:55.000 Yeah, there's no reason for me to be like, damn, I hope he doesn't get this. 0.94

01:37:00.000 Right. 0.98

01:37:01.000 You know, there's like, it's a system of like, oh, we can all just create and then help each other.

01:37:05.000 Yes.

01:37:06.000 Like piggyback off each other.

01:37:07.000 And like, that's, it's, like, such a refreshing experience to have.

01:37:11.000 It really is the rising tide lifts all boats, and that's how it should be. 0.91

01:37:15.000 And it happens everywhere, too, because, like, you know, obviously you're at the mothership and you see how hard the door guys there crushed. 0.97

01:37:20.000 But like, I'll go to Sunset and Sunset has some fucking killers as door guys now. 0.59

01:37:26.000 Especially because like they came up in this experience where Sunset, you know, famously the ceilings are high and like the room can be cavernous, can feel cavernous when it's like tight. 0.97

01:37:36.000 And so they come up in a harsher, like the mothership, the rooms are set up for comedy.

01:37:41.000 Sunset, it never happened that way.

01:37:44.000 The guy died before he could make it what he wanted to make it.

01:37:47.000 And Redman came in and just sort of saved it so he can open at the very least.

01:37:50.000 So it's like they come up in these harsh situations.

01:37:53.000 And like, there's this one, there's this one kid at Sunset.

01:37:55.000 His name is, well, kid is very funny to say.

01:37:57.000 He's the grown man, but Mumford Davis, he closes every single death squad, which is like 18 hours long.

01:38:08.000 So he closes every single one, goes up in front of a tired, beat audience, and now he's just an absolute monster.

01:38:17.000 Running with ankle weights on.

01:38:18.000 Yeah, I mean, he's running with the biggest ankle weights on.

01:38:20.000 To go at the end of that, in that room, they're tired.

01:38:22.000 They've been there forever.

01:38:23.000 But you think about it, like, that's how Kinnison came up.

01:38:26.000 Kinnison was the they that was the Kinnison spot, was the last spot at the OR.

01:38:31.000 You know, and think about his style, that screaming, yelling in your face.

01:38:36.000 That's designed to shock an audience back to life.

01:38:39.000 Right, just try to keep it.

01:38:40.000 That's Don Barris.

01:38:40.000 That's Brody.

01:38:42.000 That's Brian Holtzman.

01:38:43.000 Like, those guys that developed that act, they could just jolt you out of your complacency.

01:38:50.000 It's kind of by necessity.

01:38:52.000 How to just like keep someone's attention.

01:38:52.000 Right.

01:38:55.000 Yes.

01:38:56.000 Like bringing it back is just so impressive.

01:38:59.000 That's what I miss about the comedy stores.

01:39:01.000 I left before I got past, so I never got those like late night OR spots.

01:39:06.000 Those one in the morning, six people just survived.

01:39:10.000 I mean, some of my best favorite sets I've seen people have are in those spots.

01:39:13.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:39:14.000 Like, damn, you really made this work. 0.99

01:39:16.000 Well, sometimes like reality shines through. 1.00

01:39:20.000 Like they have a real moment on stage where the comedy is just like people like, oh shit. 0.88

01:39:25.000 Like I remember Laura Bites had a set one time and I even posted it. 0.94

01:39:28.000 Me and Burt Kreischer sat in the back of the room and she crushed so hard in front of there was only like 25 people in the room. 0.99

01:39:34.000 Right.

01:39:35.000 And by the time she was off stage, there were 50 people in the room because people were coming in from other places to come and watch her set. 0.60

01:39:40.000 Yeah, when you hear that noise, you're like, okay, what's going on here?

01:39:43.000 She was just on fire.

01:39:43.000 Exactly.

01:39:45.000 She was killing. 0.95

01:39:46.000 Yeah, it's like those spots are nice because it's like, you know, your jokes, and you have to work your jokes to get to a certain point where, like, my jokes are funny enough to showcase and work at the club.

01:39:55.000 And now that I'm at this level, I got the jokes.

01:39:58.000 Now, can I be funny?

01:40:00.000 You know, beyond like what my written, can I be just funny, me as a person?

01:40:00.000 Right.

01:40:05.000 That's you can kind of really hone that in those sort of late night, tough rooms.

01:40:10.000 Yeah, you got to do those.

01:40:12.000 And that's what, you know, the store at the end of the day, even through hard and like good times and tough times at the store, that's the reason why they always create monsters.

01:40:12.000 Yeah.

01:40:19.000 The store creates monsters.

01:40:19.000 Yeah.

01:40:21.000 And Mitzi knew what she was doing.

01:40:23.000 You know, she had a method to her madness and she tweaked it and got it to the perfect form. 1.00

01:40:28.000 We essentially use a similar form here.

01:40:30.000 Yeah, it's kind of like the method to make comedy happen.

01:40:34.000 It's like just people in like these tough spots over and over again.

01:40:40.000 Can you follow monsters?

01:40:42.000 Right.

01:40:42.000 Can you follow monsters?

01:40:44.000 That's the best part about being at the ship is like I've had to follow like Theo and Shane and be like, damn, I just got to do this. 0.97

01:40:52.000 Yeah.

01:40:53.000 And then you, and then, and then you have to follow like the emerging stars too, because then they have a whole separate energy to them.

01:41:00.000 Like I remember following both Cam and James McCain after they both started like popping and being like, whoa, just watching the energy around them shift.

01:41:09.000 Yeah.

01:41:11.000 I know.

01:41:12.000 He's got to be back.

01:41:12.000 He'll be back.

01:41:13.000 He'll be back.

01:41:14.000 I can't believe they had to go back.

01:41:17.000 So funny, though.

01:41:18.000 He's the best.

01:41:20.000 He's one of my favorite guys out there because he's got such a unique, like, it's his perspective.

01:41:25.000 It's like, you don't expect it.

01:41:27.000 It's coming out of him.

01:41:28.000 If you think the way he does, you get it.

01:41:29.000 Yeah.

01:41:30.000 It's really smart.

01:41:32.000 High energy, too.

01:41:32.000 Really funny.

01:41:34.000 It's because usually the hyper intelligent go low energy.

01:41:41.000 It's very rare that a hyper-intelligent person who's intelligent on stage on purpose like that, like he is, goes high energy.

01:41:47.000 Right.

01:41:49.000 That's what makes him unique to me, too.

01:41:53.000 Usually, when comics are being smart on stage, and I'll do this too, they go soft.

01:41:58.000 They go, look at me, think.

01:42:00.000 Yeah.

01:42:01.000 McCann's like, I have the energy of I'm in a bar yelling at you, but it's about Kyrgyzstan. 1.00

01:42:09.000 You know, we're lucky, dude.

01:42:14.000 Yeah, the scene is thriving.

01:42:17.000 Yeah.

01:42:18.000 Yeah, there's so many places to go.

01:42:19.000 That's why I did mine at Black Rabbit.

01:42:21.000 Just a small little black box room that's been like, I've had sets there and it's like 10 people and they're amazing.

01:42:28.000 Wow.

01:42:29.000 Yeah, they're just there for comedy.

01:42:31.000 A lot of them are like, they tend to be like these sort of just out of college kids who can't really afford to go to like any of the clubs.

01:42:38.000 They just have money for the first time.

01:42:39.000 We're like, oh, we can go to this little spot, like $10 tickets, just get introduced to comedy.

01:42:45.000 It's a bit of a younger audience there.

01:42:47.000 Well, there's just, how many spots are just on our street?

01:42:50.000 On our street?

01:42:51.000 I mean, like, there's...

01:42:53.000 Within our street.

01:42:53.000 Like, within close.

01:42:54.000 Like...

01:42:55.000 That you can watch.

01:42:55.000 You can count Cap City because it's like one over.

01:42:59.000 Not Cap City, I'm sorry.

01:43:01.000 No.

01:43:01.000 Vulcan.

01:43:02.000 And Sunset.

01:43:02.000 Creek.

01:43:03.000 Creek in the Cave.

01:43:03.000 Creek and the Cave is one.

01:43:05.000 In that area, you have Vulcan, Sunset, Creek, Velveeta, and then Bulls.

01:43:14.000 These are bars that run comedy at least three to four times a week.

01:43:17.000 It's Bulls. 1.00

01:43:20.000 Oh, fuck. 0.99

01:43:21.000 I'm forgetting one of the places. 0.99

01:43:25.000 I'm blanking on it now.

01:43:26.000 But Bulls, Black Rabbit. 0.92

01:43:29.000 If you want to count Roscoe's in East Austin, they're a little bit down the road, but they're still kind of in the downtown area.

01:43:34.000 So it's a nine right there.

01:43:35.000 NARBAR, that's what I was thinking about.

01:43:36.000 That's 10.

01:43:37.000 Shakespeare's runs it a bunch, and Maggie Mays runs it, I think, three times a week.

01:43:42.000 So there's at least 12 pretty much dedicated comedy rooms, and that's not including mics.

01:43:47.000 That's crazy.

01:43:48.000 That's not including mics, just in the area.

01:43:50.000 When you say mics, for people who don't know, you mean open mics.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, just open mics.

01:43:53.000 You're talking about booked clubs or professional comedians.

01:43:55.000 Yeah, these are shows with people.

01:43:57.000 And some of them are rough bar shows, but they are shows and they're booked.

01:44:00.000 Wow.

01:44:01.000 Yeah, and you can get on, you can, there's so many ways to come up.

01:44:06.000 Oh, you can walk.

01:44:07.000 You can walk. 0.99

01:44:08.000 I've had nights where I've had five sets and none of them were at the mother shit. 0.99

01:44:12.000 Wow. 0.99

01:44:13.000 I'm just, you're just out and about.

01:44:15.000 Yeah, it is, it is so, and it's just different people getting up in different places.

01:44:22.000 Each different place has their own ecosystem of comics.

01:44:25.000 You know, because you go what gives you time.

01:44:29.000 That's where you always, that's the right way to go no matter what.

01:44:32.000 Just whatever is feeding you, go, that's where you go.

01:44:32.000 Yeah.

01:44:35.000 So there's different ecosystems in each places.

01:44:37.000 And it's really, it's really fun.

01:44:40.000 And you just get to see people like, man, just figure it out.

01:44:44.000 And it's fun to watch.

01:44:46.000 And they'll figure it out on the podcast end.

01:44:47.000 They'll figure it out on the comedy end.

01:44:49.000 And then it all sort of works together.

01:44:51.000 It's got to be extra dope for you, too, because you were an early settler.

01:44:56.000 Man, I feel like I got to the gold rush in 48.

01:45:01.000 I feel like, because when I got here, there was only three.

01:45:04.000 It was me, Hans, Kim, and Derek, and Dylan.

01:45:08.000 Dylan was eight years in, but those are the only four of us that were like not famous headliners that weren't new comics, basically.

01:45:16.000 So we got to just do so many shows because there was no middle class.

01:45:16.000 Right.

01:45:22.000 It was all, it was, it was like California.

01:45:24.000 It was all upper class and all lower class.

01:45:27.000 It was very – now it's robust.

01:45:30.000 Now there's just a bunch of killers that are like just moving here all the time.

01:45:34.000 There's this guy, Nick Murphy, moved from Atlanta.

01:45:36.000 What year did you move here?

01:45:38.000 2021.

01:45:40.000 I moved here early.

01:45:41.000 I got on a Zoom, I got on a, with Dylan Sullivan.

01:45:45.000 I used to play this.

01:45:46.000 I used to play, we used to play Game Master in the pandemic online with our friends because we weren't allowed out, right?

01:45:52.000 And so he pulled me aside one day on Discord and was like, you got to move here.

01:45:55.000 And he made the pitch.

01:45:56.000 And then I was like, I was pretty much there.

01:45:58.000 And then Derek moved here and he was like, you got to.

01:46:01.000 And this was just when we were doing shows out of the Vulcan.

01:46:03.000 This is just shows of the Vulcan.

01:46:04.000 This was just, but it was indoor shows, man.

01:46:07.000 And so I moved here and then I was like, because the way I looked at it was like, look, either I'm going to like LA's going to reopen and I'll be working at the comedy store again.

01:46:16.000 And I'll have at least gotten up in that time and gotten paid to go up because they paid for every spot here.

01:46:23.000 Right.

01:46:23.000 If you're booked.

01:46:24.000 So it's like, I at least got paid.

01:46:26.000 And so I was like, and then I'll go back to LA.

01:46:28.000 A little glitch.

01:46:29.000 But so when you came here, it was just like, look, I'll get some spots.

01:46:35.000 I'll get paid.

01:46:35.000 And if the comedy store reopens, I'll go back.

01:46:37.000 Yeah, I'll go back.

01:46:38.000 Or the club was still two years away from opening, but it's like, I'll stick it out to the club and see what happens.

01:46:44.000 I was starting to talk about a club back then.

01:46:47.000 Yeah.

01:46:47.000 Right.

01:46:48.000 You would put it on the universe, and that was enough for me to be like, I think he's going to get that done.

01:46:52.000 And so I took a chance and it ended up working.

01:46:54.000 And then I ended up being one of the first people passed through there, which ended up a huge, huge blessing.

01:47:01.000 Because now there's so many killers that it's like hard to get into the mothership.

01:47:05.000 Yeah.

01:47:06.000 There's so many people who have moved.

01:47:07.000 It's like, I almost tell people it's a major city in that way in the sense of like, if you can get good where you are first and then move to Austin, that might be better now than a blind move to Austin.

01:47:20.000 Right, as an opener.

01:47:22.000 As a beginner.

01:47:23.000 As a beginner.

01:47:24.000 It's hard as a beginner.

01:47:25.000 Yeah.

01:47:25.000 It's like LA was for a while.

01:47:27.000 LA is super tough.

01:47:27.000 Oh, LA.

01:47:28.000 I imagine New York is super tough as well.

01:47:30.000 The store was really tough.

01:47:32.000 If you wanted to go from open mic to actual spots, like, bro, you got to do spots somewhere else.

01:47:36.000 Right.

01:47:37.000 You really should be better.

01:47:38.000 You're better off coming there with potential.

01:47:40.000 Like, you've already gotten a few years under your belt.

01:47:42.000 Than like trying to figure it out in this, because the LA mics are especially brutal.

01:47:46.000 The thing is, man, if you guys didn't come, it wouldn't have worked.

01:47:49.000 Like, that was the thing.

01:47:50.000 It's like the people that really are responsible for the movement, the crazy new scene here, are the ones who came before the club was open.

01:47:59.000 Brian Simpson, Tom Segura.

01:48:01.000 Segura was here early, man.

01:48:04.000 I told him about it. 0.98

01:48:05.000 He's like, I'm fucking moving. 0.98

01:48:06.000 And then, bam, I was like, whoa. 0.98

01:48:08.000 And when Tom moved, I was like, that's a big deal.

01:48:10.000 You know, because Tom was already doing arenas.

01:48:14.000 It required a certain amount of people to buy in.

01:48:16.000 And because of that, I'm very pro-Austin of like, man, if you buy in, look what can happen.

01:48:23.000 Yeah.

01:48:24.000 You shouldn't do that.

01:48:25.000 No one should not be pro-Austin.

01:48:27.000 It's funny because Lewis and Tony were going back and forth and arguing like Lewis shits on the Austin scene. 0.76

01:48:33.000 Right. 1.00

01:48:34.000 This New York versus Austin thing is the stupidest fucking thing about it. 1.00

01:48:38.000 They should both be awesome. 1.00

01:48:39.000 Who cares?

01:48:40.000 Yeah, it's unnecessary.

01:48:41.000 It's unnecessary in fighting.

01:48:42.000 It's like caddy girlfriend. 0.77

01:48:43.000 It's like, we both clearly can exist in a space where we also help each other.

01:48:49.000 The New York guys are always here, and I feel like we're always there.

01:48:52.000 But the point is, Tony and Lewis were going back and forth, and Lewis said, well, LA isn't even in consideration anymore as what's the best place for comedy in the country.

01:49:04.000 And Tony goes, agreed.

01:49:07.000 And why do you think that is?

01:49:08.000 What do you think happened?

01:49:10.000 Where'd those people go? 1.00

01:49:13.000 And Lewis is like, oh, shit. 0.99

01:49:17.000 But, you know, I will say this because I was just in LA. 0.99

01:49:20.000 I like where the LA scene's at.

01:49:21.000 It's rebuilding stronger.

01:49:22.000 Of course it is.

01:49:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:49:24.000 It's the store.

01:49:25.000 It's Hollywood.

01:49:25.000 This hole.

01:49:26.000 It goes through dips.

01:49:27.000 It's done it before.

01:49:28.000 When I got there, it was at a low.

01:49:30.000 When I came in 94, the OR was half empty.

01:49:32.000 Main room was never full.

01:49:34.000 And then there was no big talent there.

01:49:36.000 It's always like that.

01:49:37.000 It comes, it goes, new people come up.

01:49:39.000 It's legendary.

01:49:40.000 It's got a vibe to it.

01:49:42.000 It creates comedy just by existing.

01:49:44.000 Yeah, it's like it's still every time I'm there. 0.99

01:49:46.000 I'm like, man, this is the fucking place. 1.00

01:49:48.000 It's the fucking place, man. 1.00

01:49:49.000 That's been the place since 1970-something. 1.00

01:49:51.000 I mean, it's that place is crazy.

01:49:53.000 Yeah.

01:49:54.000 The building is alive in that place.

01:49:56.000 It's crazy.

01:49:57.000 Yeah, you feel it.

01:49:58.000 It's soaked with the memories of Kinnison and Kicks and Pryor.

01:50:03.000 Here's what's crazy.

01:50:04.000 You know the bucket seats in the back?

01:50:05.000 Yeah.

01:50:06.000 If you go during the day, they might have repainted the wall.

01:50:09.000 So this is when I worked there.

01:50:10.000 But when you go during the day, because I'd get there early and like write or whatever, and you can look where the bucket seats are, the outline of all the heads because of all the oil of the people leaning back was just there.

01:50:22.000 So you were just there, and it's just the energy of all these great comics just in the room with you.

01:50:28.000 Yeah, it was an interesting place to like be during the day because you could sort of feel it.

01:50:34.000 It's a very special place.

01:50:35.000 Very special place.

01:50:36.000 You never get to take away from that.

01:50:37.000 But the thing is, it's like it should be and it will be even better than it used to be, I'm sure. 0.99

01:50:43.000 But the point is, it's like denying that Austin is an amazing scene is just stupid. 0.99

01:50:47.000 Yes. 1.00

01:50:48.000 It's just stupid. 1.00

01:50:49.000 And also, don't you want another great scene? 1.00

01:50:53.000 Do you want a limited amount of options for comedians?

01:50:55.000 Don't you want more comics and more comedy?

01:50:58.000 Right.

01:50:59.000 And more places for you to end up performing.

01:51:01.000 Like, now you can go to Austin and spend a couple weeks there and get a lot of time and learn how to talk to people here. 0.99

01:51:01.000 Shut up. 0.99

01:51:08.000 There's so many bitches in this world. 1.00

01:51:10.000 So many bitches. 1.00

01:51:11.000 And those bitches never get anything done. 1.00

01:51:13.000 They just sit and bitch. 1.00

01:51:18.000 Yeah, nothing ever gets done. 0.99

01:51:20.000 They never progress.

01:51:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:51:22.000 Yeah, man.

01:51:23.000 Just video essays.

01:51:25.000 I watch all the video essays.

01:51:26.000 That's so funny when it's funny.

01:51:27.000 Why don't you watch it?

01:51:28.000 It's just so funny to me.

01:51:29.000 Because they all start.

01:51:32.000 The whole concept that Austin is ruined comedy is very funny to me.

01:51:36.000 Because there's so many comics that are blowing up outside everywhere all the time. 0.84

01:51:40.000 It's just silly.

01:51:42.000 It's like my friend said, it's a walled garden. 0.95

01:51:44.000 That's what it is.

01:51:44.000 It seems like the people are having too much fun.

01:51:47.000 And if you're not there and if you don't have aspirations to be there, you feel bad about it.

01:51:51.000 When I lived in Boston, the store was like Mecca.

01:51:53.000 Like people would talk about it.

01:51:55.000 I was like, you got to make the pilgrimage to the comedy store.

01:51:57.000 It was one of the first things I did when I came to LA.

01:51:59.000 Oh, no, it's a big deal.

01:52:00.000 The first time you go there, I remember looking at it and being just the feeling in my heart.

01:52:04.000 The first time I went there, I hadn't even moved there yet.

01:52:07.000 I went there just to watch.

01:52:08.000 I told them I was a comedian from New York.

01:52:10.000 I'm like, can I go and watch a set?

01:52:11.000 They're like, yeah, sure.

01:52:12.000 And they'll let me come in and I sat in the back and watched.

01:52:15.000 And it was like Bodaks. 0.94

01:52:17.000 It was terrible.

01:52:18.000 It was really bad.

01:52:19.000 A bunch of cruise ship acts, like a bunch of guys who had the same act from the 1970s.

01:52:23.000 They had never, you know, those dudes that like, you'll see them at the store occasionally now that have an act from the 80s.

01:52:28.000 Well, these dudes, it was like a decade earlier.

01:52:30.000 Yeah, when I worked at La Jolla, there was one guy that they booked that they had like some deal with Mitzi that he got to perform once a year at the La Jolla.

01:52:37.000 And man, you could just tell, man, it's been you haven't changed this act since the 70s.

01:52:42.000 Yeah, they just never evolved.

01:52:45.000 And, you know, and they weren't getting spots when Kinnison was around.

01:52:49.000 The place was packed.

01:52:50.000 And then Kinnison left.

01:52:52.000 And then he had a billboard.

01:52:53.000 He put a billboard right in front of the comedy store of his new album that was coming out.

01:52:59.000 Why did he leave the store?

01:53:00.000 Oh, I don't know. 1.00

01:53:01.000 He probably did something stupid. 1.00

01:53:02.000 Okay. 1.00

01:53:02.000 I think he definitely fired off a gun because remember he shot the bullet hole is still there. 1.00

01:53:07.000 Yeah.

01:53:08.000 I heard they fixed the sign, though.

01:53:10.000 No, it's a fixed the plastic.

01:53:12.000 Yeah, they might have.

01:53:13.000 I think that the plastic was falling apart, but they kept the bullet hole because the bullet hole is still there.

01:53:17.000 Yeah, I went and looked.

01:53:17.000 Okay.

01:53:19.000 I made sure.

01:53:19.000 Pretty crazy.

01:53:20.000 The Kinnison bullet hole is like part of the thing there.

01:53:23.000 But the cracked glass was also part of the thing.

01:53:26.000 Yeah, but I think eventually it just fell apart.

01:53:28.000 It's been like 40 years since that happened.

01:53:31.000 I mean, that might have been what got him banned.

01:53:33.000 Not sure.

01:53:34.000 But then he was banned.

01:53:35.000 And then when I came, it was 94, so he was already dead.

01:53:39.000 He was dead, and Hicks was dead.

01:53:41.000 So it was weird.

01:53:42.000 Okay, and so that was the lull was from.

01:53:44.000 That's where the lull was from.

01:53:45.000 They were just kind of missing that top level guy.

01:53:47.000 There was a lull.

01:53:48.000 And guys would occasionally drop in to work out, but they didn't put their name on the marquee.

01:53:52.000 No one ever knew they were going to be there.

01:53:53.000 Like Chris Rock would come in and work out.

01:53:55.000 Damon would come in and work out.

01:53:57.000 But the big comics that were there, like Dom Marrero would stop in.

01:54:00.000 There was guys that would stop in.

01:54:01.000 But then it was mostly us younger guys.

01:54:03.000 Holtzman was a big part back then.

01:54:06.000 I can't imagine Holtzman as a young guy.

01:54:08.000 I mean, me and them.

01:54:09.000 We're only a few ages or a few years different.

01:54:11.000 It feels like he's just looked like that since he did as a kid.

01:54:14.000 He was a throwback.

01:54:15.000 He looked like he was from the 1950s when I met him in 94.

01:54:18.000 Yeah.

01:54:18.000 Like slick back, dark hair.

01:54:21.000 Right.

01:54:21.000 Always the best.

01:54:22.000 Always a nice guy.

01:54:23.000 Oh, my God.

01:54:23.000 Yeah.

01:54:24.000 He's the sweetest guy in the world.

01:54:26.000 There's something about guys who are like that on stage are always super sweet off stage.

01:54:31.000 Because they like truly get all the venom out.

01:54:33.000 It's like William Montgomery. 0.99

01:54:34.000 If you watch William Montgomery on stage, he's a raving lunatic. 0.99

01:54:38.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:54:39.000 That picture.

01:54:39.000 Oh, wow.

01:54:40.000 Look at Holtzman to the right with a suit on.

01:54:42.000 Oh, my God.

01:54:43.000 And then Paulie.

01:54:44.000 Who's next to you?

01:54:45.000 Freddy Soto. 1.00

01:54:46.000 Damn. 1.00

01:54:46.000 That's Freddy Soto. 1.00

01:54:48.000 Boy, that was probably like 96.

01:54:53.000 Crazy.

01:54:55.000 Yeah, Brian does look the exact same. 0.98

01:54:55.000 Crazy. 0.98

01:54:57.000 He looks the exact same. 0.98

01:54:58.000 He had jet black hair, and he would...

01:55:03.000 You know what it kind of looks like?

01:55:04.000 There's...

01:55:05.000 That's his headshot.

01:55:06.000 There's this guy on Instagram where his whole thing is just he pretends to be a greaser.

01:55:11.000 Oh, really?

01:55:12.000 Yeah, but like unironically, that's kind of what he looks like. 0.94

01:55:16.000 But it's really funny because all his comments are just like, yo, show us that hog. 1.00

01:55:21.000 Like, that's become the— He does, like, grease or shit. 0.99

01:55:24.000 And then all the comics are like, but how come where's the hog reveal? 0.99

01:55:29.000 Why is hog?

01:55:30.000 Yeah, it's become like.

01:55:31.000 He's so unironically trying to be a greaser that the comments came up with their own sort of culture around him.

01:55:37.000 So it's coming.

01:55:40.000 Yeah, the kind of mocking.

01:55:41.000 They're all kind of making fun of him.

01:55:42.000 But he's genuinely trying to portray this guy as this greaser guy.

01:55:46.000 It's like Mike the Greaser or something like that.

01:55:48.000 It's so funny.

01:55:49.000 Well, Holtzman was just, I thought he was going to blow up, man.

01:55:52.000 I really did. 0.99

01:55:53.000 I was like, oh, this guy's going to be fucking huge. 0.97

01:55:56.000 This guy's going to be gigantic. 0.96

01:55:58.000 There was a few guys back then that I was like, that guy's going to be big.

01:56:02.000 Did you ever see Mike Ricca?

01:56:04.000 No.

01:56:05.000 The early 90s, Mike Ricca was great, man.

01:56:08.000 I don't know what happened.

01:56:09.000 I don't know what happened with him.

01:56:10.000 It's so.

01:56:11.000 I don't even know if he does comedy anymore.

01:56:12.000 Yeah, it's so easy.

01:56:14.000 People fall off all the time.

01:56:16.000 Because it is brutal.

01:56:17.000 The game is brutal.

01:56:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:56:19.000 It can be.

01:56:20.000 Yeah, but you have to have something brutal outside of the game to keep you centered.

01:56:24.000 You should do something else that's also difficult.

01:56:27.000 For me, it's obviously working out.

01:56:28.000 That's a big part of what keeps me sane.

01:56:30.000 I think it's important for mental health.

01:56:32.000 The people that are the most mentally unhealthy and unstable that I know all have no control of their body.

01:56:40.000 None of them exercise. 0.79

01:56:41.000 They don't eat well.

01:56:42.000 They eat terrible food. 1.00

01:56:43.000 They take medications and they're all fucked up in the head. 1.00

01:56:47.000 And then little things can send them off a deep end. 0.99

01:56:50.000 Once a person makes a mean tweet about them and a couple people pile on and they want to jump off a building.

01:56:54.000 Right.

01:56:55.000 You know, there's a bunch of those people out there.

01:56:57.000 And I think with the pressures of this job, you have to, for your own sanity, you have to find some sort of an outlet.

01:57:04.000 Find some sort of a thing.

01:57:06.000 Or like take a walk.

01:57:07.000 That too.

01:57:08.000 It's so.

01:57:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:09.000 That'll help, but it should be something that's a little bit that you exert yourself.

01:57:13.000 Well, that's like, I was like, that's a good place to start if you're one of these people that like don't do like just a simple walk can really get the ball rolling.

01:57:21.000 Don't jump right into CrossFit.

01:57:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:23.000 From nothing couch to CrossFit.

01:57:26.000 Yeah, just be outside and like smell the air and be or so.

01:57:29.000 Because like, does your phone send you the screen time updates?

01:57:32.000 What do you mean?

01:57:33.000 Like, so my phone will send me like a week lead.

01:57:35.000 Like, this is how much you spend on your phone.

01:57:36.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

01:57:37.000 For me, it's like, damn, this is like a full-time job that I'm spending on my phone. 0.93

01:57:37.000 Yeah. 0.93

01:57:42.000 It's disgusting.

01:57:43.000 And I have to just remind myself, like, oh, the reason I feel bad is because I'm on this.

01:57:47.000 100%.

01:57:48.000 I'm on this, and I'm consuming a fake reality that, like, I think one of the most dangerous things that the phone, like the online existence does is it calls like people like call their fans and stuff a community, and it's not really a community.

01:58:03.000 Your community has to be people you see in person.

01:58:05.000 It can't be this online, possibly fake fan club, basically.

01:58:12.000 Well, it certainly can't be a large percentage of your interactions with people.

01:58:16.000 That's nuts.

01:58:17.000 But I mean, there is some sort of a community that you kind of cultivate by interacting with people on social media.

01:58:23.000 It's just at what price?

01:58:25.000 You know, and at what price?

01:58:25.000 Right.

01:58:26.000 And then how much are you doom scrolling other than interacting with people and having like semi-positive experiences, communicating, like sharing ideas?

01:58:35.000 How much of it is just doom scrolling?

01:58:36.000 Right.

01:58:37.000 For me, it was a lot.

01:58:38.000 And so I backed off it heavy.

01:58:41.000 So I still spend a lot of time on YouTube, though.

01:58:44.000 My distraction time is almost all YouTube.

01:58:46.000 No, I'm a doom scroller.

01:58:49.000 Yeah, because you get caught.

01:58:50.000 You see one thing and you're like, it's so easy to just do that.

01:58:53.000 It is, but I don't want that because it makes me feel weird.

01:58:56.000 But YouTube doesn't make me feel weird.

01:58:58.000 So if I watch some really cool video on ancient history or something, I never feel bad at all.

01:59:05.000 I'm like, oh, that was cool.

01:59:06.000 I don't come out of it with any negative feeling.

01:59:09.000 I just come out of it like, oh, that's interesting.

01:59:11.000 I learned something.

01:59:12.000 YouTube is like the modern television now. 0.99

01:59:14.000 Oh, it's fucking phenomenal. 0.97

01:59:16.000 That's the one. 0.99

01:59:17.000 Phenomenal.

01:59:18.000 You can just find some.

01:59:19.000 There's people making high-quality things.

01:59:21.000 Sometimes I'll get caught up in things that I don't even care about.

01:59:25.000 I'm not a huge horror movie fan.

01:59:27.000 I like movies, but I found this one page called Nightmare Movies, and he just explains his favorite horror movies.

01:59:32.000 And he has a great voice.

01:59:34.000 And I've watched all of his videos.

01:59:36.000 Zero interest in watching any of the movies.

01:59:37.000 I'm interested in watching him react to the movies.

01:59:40.000 Really?

01:59:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:59:41.000 What's really dope on YouTube also is these little short horror movies that people make on their own.

01:59:48.000 Like real, super low budget, but like really interesting ideas.

01:59:51.000 There's a ton of them, man.

01:59:52.000 Right. 0.99

01:59:53.000 Some of them are fucking great. 0.97

01:59:54.000 They're really cool. 0.98

01:59:55.000 They're like eight minutes long.

01:59:56.000 They're two minutes long and they can just get you.

01:59:58.000 Yeah.

01:59:59.000 There's so much entertainment.

02:00:01.000 I like watching people make furniture for some reason.

02:00:04.000 I really do. 0.99

02:00:05.000 I love watching people make like live edge tables and shit. 0.98

02:00:08.000 And I don't know. 0.99

02:00:10.000 Yeah, it's just like, oh, this tickles me.

02:00:12.000 I like watching people cook.

02:00:14.000 I watch a lot of cooking.

02:00:15.000 Well, it's so like you can, everyone's entertainment's so like in their own lane that you can come across a video and be like 8 million views and you've never even seen it.

02:00:24.000 Like true virality is tough.

02:00:27.000 Like in the future, are there going to be even like A-list celebrities like that?

02:00:31.000 You know?

02:00:32.000 Or there's going to be less and less like A, like what would you describe as an A-list celebrity, right?

02:00:38.000 Because everyone has their own sort of lane.

02:00:38.000 Sure, right.

02:00:40.000 Well, there's more celebrities now than there ever have been before.

02:00:43.000 For sure.

02:00:44.000 There's more, let's just say famous people.

02:00:46.000 There's more people that are known than ever before because of social media.

02:00:50.000 Think about all the streamers and YouTubers and podcasts.

02:00:54.000 And that's a huge streaming scene.

02:00:55.000 It's insane.

02:00:55.000 Yeah, it's insane.

02:00:56.000 So there's that.

02:00:57.000 So that muddies the water because you go back to like, let's go back to like 1960 when Paul Newman was a superstar making movies. 0.96

02:01:05.000 How many fucking Paul Newmans were there? 0.97

02:01:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:01:07.000 Right. 0.99

02:01:08.000 Was it 10?

02:01:09.000 Yeah.

02:01:09.000 On Earth?

02:01:10.000 Like, if you wanted to make a big movie, you got Marlon Brando, Paul Newman.

02:01:13.000 You know, you have a few people.

02:01:15.000 Like a star on Sidney Sweeney's level now.

02:01:18.000 Right.

02:01:19.000 Back then, that would be a name to sell movies.

02:01:22.000 Now, like, there's movies that she's in that people don't watch.

02:01:25.000 And that's like what an A-list celebrity is now.

02:01:25.000 Right.

02:01:28.000 It's like there's so much stuff you're competing with.

02:01:31.000 There's so much content.

02:01:32.000 Just period.

02:01:33.000 I'm always watching a new show. 0.99

02:01:36.000 There's always a new show, and they're fucking great. 0.99

02:01:39.000 There's so many great shows. 0.98

02:01:41.000 Yeah, or not even just random Instagram accounts.

02:01:43.000 Dude, I watched this guy's Sandwiches of History.

02:01:46.000 All he does is he finds a sandwich book from them from the early 1900s and just makes a sandwich in them.

02:01:53.000 Is any of them good? 1.00

02:01:54.000 Some of them are amazing, and some of them suck ass. 1.00

02:01:56.000 Some of them are like, some of them are like a depression era. 1.00

02:01:58.000 You know what I mean?

02:01:59.000 It's like bread and sawdust or whatever, you know? 0.98

02:02:02.000 But some of them are like, damn, that's like a good sandwich. 0.98

02:02:05.000 And I just watch this guy eat sandwiches and be like, this is a great use of my time. 0.98

02:02:10.000 Making an orange peel sandwich from 1921 here.

02:02:13.000 1921.

02:02:14.000 So you take orange peels, you mix it up with mayonnaise, and you spread it on bread.

02:02:19.000 Let's see his face.

02:02:22.000 He always goes, I'll give this sandwich a go.

02:02:25.000 He has like a catchphrase.

02:02:27.000 I'm all about it.

02:02:29.000 Hmm.

02:02:30.000 It doesn't look like he likes it.

02:02:30.000 Okay.

02:02:32.000 It's a terrible idea.

02:02:33.000 It's a terrible idea. 0.98

02:02:35.000 Orange peel sandwich the fuck out of here. 0.95

02:02:36.000 Well, that's what people ate.

02:02:37.000 Yeah, starving.

02:02:38.000 Starving, you eat an orange peel sandwich.

02:02:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:02:41.000 The sandwich was made by a guy who was in a hurry, right?

02:02:43.000 Wasn't that the idea? 0.99

02:02:44.000 He just threw some fucking meat and some bread to eat it all together. 0.99

02:02:47.000 Yeah, I think so. 0.99

02:02:48.000 And then the people were like, wow, wasn't his name sandwich?

02:02:51.000 He was like the Earl of Sandwich.

02:02:52.000 I think it was a sandwich.

02:02:53.000 That was a place.

02:02:54.000 Yeah.

02:02:56.000 As I'm saying that, is that real, though?

02:02:58.000 Is that just like Google?

02:02:59.000 We've definitely searched this before.

02:03:01.000 Isn't there an Earl of Sandwich?

02:03:03.000 No, there 100% is, but it's also like a store.

02:03:05.000 And I'm just like, I'm like, is that even maybe just like a little silly myth?

02:03:09.000 I'll tell you what, if the sandwich didn't originate with the Earl of Sandwich, what a mighty coincidence that is.

02:03:16.000 What a real deal.

02:03:17.000 There is an Earl of Sandwich.

02:03:20.000 What is the origins of the term sandwich?

02:03:22.000 I'm stuck looking at the Earl of Sandwich.

02:03:24.000 Okay, so the Earl of Sandwich exists.

02:03:26.000 But just put into perplexity, what are the origins of the sandwich?

02:03:31.000 I'm pretty sure it was like a military guy.

02:03:33.000 Yes. 1.00

02:03:34.000 And he was like, fuck it, just give me the bread and the meat. 1.00

02:03:36.000 I'll put it together. 1.00

02:03:37.000 And he cut the bread open, stuffed it in there.

02:03:39.000 Because I think they used to just eat bread and eat meat.

02:03:42.000 They just ate bread by itself.

02:03:42.000 Eat bread.

02:03:43.000 They were too stupid to define it. 1.00

02:03:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, very autistically. 1.00

02:03:47.000 Keep the food separate.

02:03:48.000 18th century England named after John Montagu.

02:03:51.000 The fourth Earl of Sandwich.

02:03:53.000 John is the Earl of Sandwich.

02:03:53.000 Aha.

02:03:56.000 During a prolonged card game in 19 and 1762.

02:04:00.000 Oh, that's right.

02:04:01.000 He was gambling.

02:04:02.000 That's right.

02:04:03.000 Now I remember.

02:04:04.000 Oh, well, now that gambling's so fucking massive now, what cool food is going to come out of that?

02:04:09.000 It's already here.

02:04:12.000 Fast food Uber Eats will deliver it right to your table.

02:04:15.000 Allowing him to eat without interrupting play.

02:04:16.000 The practice creation popularized the handheld meal among England's elite.

02:04:21.000 There it is.

02:04:22.000 Oh, that's so funny.

02:04:23.000 It used to be an elite food.

02:04:25.000 Oh, so it looks like the Romans had it before.

02:04:29.000 It says similar concepts predated Montagu, such as the Roman Ophela, which involved meat or cheese between bread slices.

02:04:38.000 That's a sandwich.

02:04:39.000 Right.

02:04:39.000 They just didn't call it that.

02:04:42.000 Huh.

02:04:44.000 They finally had a name that stuck.

02:04:47.000 Is there a current Earl of Sandwich?

02:04:49.000 I bet there is.

02:04:51.000 Imagine if he's gluten-sensitive.

02:04:54.000 That's what I was thinking through is this, but I didn't get any good information from it.

02:04:58.000 Well, now we know.

02:05:01.000 You want to talk about places to eat? 0.99

02:05:03.000 Austin has an amazing fucking selection of places to eat. 0.99

02:05:08.000 During the day, the night leaves a little. 0.99

02:05:10.000 Yeah, there needs to be a late-night diner out there. 0.65

02:05:12.000 Well, we were talking about that last night.

02:05:14.000 One of the things I really miss about LA is the Jewish delis.

02:05:17.000 Like Cantors.

02:05:18.000 We used to go there after a club.

02:05:18.000 Yes.

02:05:20.000 We'd leave and we'd go to Cantors and I would get a pastrami Reuben with steak fries.

02:05:25.000 Oh my God.

02:05:26.000 Have you ever had a pastrami Ruben from Cantors?

02:05:28.000 Yeah.

02:05:29.000 Good lord.

02:05:29.000 That's what you get at Cantors.

02:05:31.000 That's good.

02:05:31.000 Good lord.

02:05:32.000 Yeah.

02:05:32.000 I mean, it might be the best pastrami Reuben on earth.

02:05:35.000 It's right up there with Katz Deli in New York City, which is maybe the king.

02:05:39.000 Oh, I've never been there.

02:05:40.000 Oh, Lord. 0.98

02:05:42.000 Katz Deli in New York City is fucking legendary. 0.96

02:05:44.000 First of all, you have to, you get a ticket when you get there. 0.97

02:05:47.000 I don't even know if they accept credit cards.

02:05:49.000 You might have to pay in cash.

02:05:50.000 Oh, I like that.

02:05:51.000 You get a ticket when you get there, and you can't lose your ticket.

02:05:53.000 If you lose your ticket, you got to pay like 50 bucks because you take that ticket, and on that ticket, they write all the things you get.

02:05:59.000 So you go up to the counter and they're like, We're going to get you.

02:06:02.000 And there's guys that have been fucking chopping meat since the 20s, you know, and they'll slice you off a couple of pieces of brisket, slice you off a couple of pieces of pastrami, and you get to eat it while you're there, while you're waiting for your sandwich to be made. 0.98

02:06:14.000 And, you know, you tell him what you want, and he pulls the fucking pastrami out and starts slicing it up in front of you. 0.99

02:06:20.000 Steam's coming off of it. 0.99

02:06:21.000 He's piling it on that rye bread.

02:06:23.000 You're like, oh, you can't wait.

02:06:25.000 And then he gives you a couple pickles in there, and then you're like, what else you want?

02:06:28.000 And then you move down the line.

02:06:29.000 Like, I got to order fries, you get to order fries.

02:06:31.000 I want a root beer, pa, ba, pa.

02:06:33.000 And then you get to the end, and they put it all on your ticket.

02:06:36.000 And then when you leave, after you've eaten, then you bring the ticket up to the counter.

02:06:41.000 Ah, okay.

02:06:43.000 So it's food plus accountability.

02:06:45.000 You have to keep track of stuff.

02:06:48.000 It's a weird old system, so nobody pays attention. 0.98

02:06:50.000 So everyone loses their fucking ticket from out of town. 0.96

02:06:53.000 If you've never been there before, you're like, what? 0.99

02:06:55.000 What?

02:06:55.000 The ticket?

02:06:56.000 How much is it?

02:06:56.000 What happened?

02:06:58.000 It's a way to scam the tourists a little bit.

02:07:00.000 It's like a tourist fee, not a scam.

02:07:02.000 Well, I just think it's how they used to account back then, and they just never changed it.

02:07:05.000 It's kind of the charm of the place.

02:07:07.000 It's got this weird thing.

02:07:08.000 Show me some Cantor sandwiches, son.

02:07:11.000 Show me some of that.

02:07:13.000 When I was a door guy, we were big swingers, guys.

02:07:16.000 That was the show me Cats.

02:07:18.000 Cats' cats.

02:07:20.000 That was the diner we went to.

02:07:22.000 Swingers was great.

02:07:23.000 That was a great diner.

02:07:23.000 Yeah, that was a great diner.

02:07:24.000 Really good food.

02:07:25.000 And that was open pretty late, too.

02:07:27.000 Look at that, son. 0.99

02:07:28.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

02:07:30.000 Look at that pastrami with Swiss cheese. 0.99

02:07:33.000 Oh, Lord.

02:07:35.000 That's so good. 0.99

02:07:36.000 And they pile it up high, and they've been doing it that way since the fucking 1800s. 0.98

02:07:41.000 How old is Cantor's? 0.99

02:07:42.000 1888.

02:07:43.000 1888?

02:07:44.000 Jeez.

02:07:45.000 1888.

02:07:46.000 Look how good that looks.

02:07:47.000 Oh.

02:07:50.000 You can see how she's pulling it like that. 0.68

02:07:51.000 The flavors.

02:07:53.000 Oh.

02:07:53.000 Yeah, see, this is what Austin is definitely missing.

02:07:56.000 Yeah.

02:07:57.000 They need something late at night, something that we can all eat where you can go and hang out.

02:08:01.000 Now, I had heard that someone was opening a Cat's deli in Austin.

02:08:05.000 Yeah.

02:08:06.000 But I don't think it's Katz Cat's Deli from New York City.

02:08:06.000 Right?

02:08:10.000 No, it's just called Cat's Deli.

02:08:11.000 Cats Never Closes.

02:08:13.000 Oh, coming soon.

02:08:15.000 Go back.

02:08:15.000 Hold on.

02:08:17.000 Coming soon on 6th Street.

02:08:19.000 How far is that from us?

02:08:20.000 Well, we're on 6th.

02:08:21.000 It's on West 6.

02:08:22.000 It's on West 6th, so it's like near.

02:08:23.000 It's taking over our current spot.

02:08:25.000 Yeah.

02:08:26.000 It's taking over us.

02:08:26.000 What's that?

02:08:27.000 I think there's like a bar there or something now.

02:08:29.000 Oh, okay.

02:08:29.000 Yeah, it's kind of near where we're at.

02:08:30.000 Holding in the same location as the OG Cats is operated for 32 years.

02:08:34.000 So it's way down by Jay Carver's.

02:08:37.000 Yeah, but that's a five-minute drive.

02:08:40.000 Yeah, you can walk there from there.

02:08:41.000 We do that all the time.

02:08:42.000 Cats never closes.

02:08:43.000 But that was August 18th.

02:08:45.000 Has there been any news since?

02:08:47.000 Is it open?

02:08:47.000 Yeah, no, no, no, it's going to take a year.

02:08:50.000 Oh, it's going to take a year.

02:08:51.000 Oh, they're building it out.

02:08:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:08:53.000 There's a few places like that that are just, they got the name out and it's going to be open in a year and a half.

02:08:53.000 Whoa.

02:08:58.000 So was there an original Katz's Never Closes, or is this a new one?

02:09:01.000 That's the one that's that's where it was.

02:09:02.000 It closed in 2011.

02:09:04.000 So they lied. 0.99

02:09:06.000 Fucking closed. 1.00

02:09:06.000 No, what do you mean? 1.00

02:09:10.000 Yeah, Katz sometimes closes for 15 years.

02:09:12.000 By the way, I would have never allowed them to use a K for closes.

02:09:15.000 Like, guys, we're not kooky.

02:09:18.000 Stop.

02:09:19.000 Yeah, you're not Krispy Kreme.

02:09:20.000 Yeah, why are you doing that?

02:09:21.000 All right.

02:09:22.000 So expected in 2026, maybe 2027.

02:09:27.000 Well, hopefully they.

02:09:28.000 Because that's the big hole right now in the Austin game.

02:09:31.000 This is it.

02:09:31.000 Look at it, though.

02:09:32.000 New York-style deli menu with sandwiches like Rubens, day-long breakfast dishes like waffle egg sandwiches and blintzes, entrees including pork roasts and meatloaf.

02:09:42.000 Oh my god, it sounds amazing.

02:09:43.000 Open 24-7.

02:09:46.000 All right, that'll be it for us.

02:09:47.000 Yes, it'll be it.

02:09:48.000 Finally, finally.

02:09:49.000 Because that was the big hole.

02:09:50.000 Outside of that, Austin has like amazing food.

02:09:53.000 We should help them.

02:09:54.000 But yeah, after 10 p.m., it gets rough pickings. 0.85

02:09:57.000 Yeah, let's blow them up when they open up.

02:09:59.000 A lot of halal carts, which I wouldn't expect in Austin. 0.99

02:10:01.000 That's such a funny thing.

02:10:03.000 Going through there, I wouldn't be like, oh, halal carts would be a good way I get late-night food. 1.00

02:10:06.000 Entrepreneurs recognize the need.

02:10:09.000 Yeah, there's the only things you can get.

02:10:12.000 Oh, there's Golden Tiger.

02:10:14.000 That's great.

02:10:15.000 They're open pretty late, right?

02:10:16.000 They're open till like 1:30.

02:10:18.000 Yeah.

02:10:20.000 That's pretty late.

02:10:20.000 That's pretty good.

02:10:21.000 The comic life, you're like out at two.

02:10:23.000 I know.

02:10:23.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:10:24.000 Looking for food at two.

02:10:25.000 Yeah, at two.

02:10:26.000 And you're like, well, thank God the Mexican hot dog carts people are here. 1.00

02:10:29.000 Right.

02:10:30.000 Yeah, that happened recently.

02:10:31.000 They started showing up.

02:10:32.000 Yeah, there's always smart people to capitalize.

02:10:35.000 Because there's always, I mean, there's just so many people walking around drunk.

02:10:38.000 Right, just looking for stuff.

02:10:39.000 Especially 6th Street.

02:10:41.000 You got a taco truck. 1.00

02:10:41.000 You can kill it. 1.00

02:10:42.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:10:43.000 On 6th Street? 1.00

02:10:44.000 Oh, at 2 in the morning, all the fucking zombies. 0.99

02:10:46.000 And there's that road when you go up to 7th where when you're headed towards Creek, there's a whole parking lot that's got a bunch of food trucks up in there. 0.99

02:10:57.000 My favorite place is called Diddy Dog.

02:10:58.000 They got Bulgogi fries.

02:11:01.000 Bulgogi fries.

02:11:02.000 Bulgogi fries.

02:11:03.000 Isn't there a really good cheeseburger place over there, too?

02:11:06.000 There's the Yala Burgers. 1.00

02:11:06.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:11:08.000 They're pretty good.

02:11:08.000 But for me, downtown, if I'm eating downtown, I'm eating the Bulgogi fries.

02:11:12.000 That's good, huh?

02:11:13.000 Oh, yeah.

02:11:14.000 They're a lot, so I can't get them very often.

02:11:16.000 Now that I'm older, that I'm like, oh, yeah, I have to take care of myself.

02:11:20.000 But when I first moved here, I was on that Bulgogi fry diet, son. 0.60

02:11:24.000 It's kind of insane how many great restaurants there are here, though.

02:11:27.000 It's like, oh, yeah.

02:11:28.000 The numbers, nuts.

02:11:29.000 Yeah, just and good casual eating places, too.

02:11:32.000 It's like you can really.

02:11:33.000 Everyone who moves, I call it when you move to Austin, there's the freshman 15. 0.93

02:11:39.000 Just from eating here.

02:11:40.000 Just from eating here.

02:11:40.000 You just get it.

02:11:41.000 And then after you live here for like five years, you get, I think you just get so tired of brisket that you can't look at it again for a while.

02:11:49.000 I eat so much brisket that I only go now when like out of town people bark.

02:11:54.000 Yeah, I can eat it 24 days out of a month.

02:11:54.000 That's funny.

02:11:57.000 I'll take six off.

02:11:58.000 Oh, no, no.

02:11:59.000 Yeah.

02:11:59.000 I love it.

02:12:01.000 Sometimes the Terry Blacks will come to the green room and I'll be like, I can't look at this right now. 0.99

02:12:05.000 Oh, no.

02:12:05.000 This is like day three in a row of Terry Black's.

02:12:07.000 Not to complain, but it is.

02:12:08.000 Terry Blacks has those beef ribs, dog.

02:12:11.000 That's the best.

02:12:11.000 Beef ribs are insane.

02:12:13.000 I do describe it.

02:12:14.000 You got to take every tourist.

02:12:14.000 I hear that.

02:12:15.000 It's like the Disneyland of Austin.

02:12:16.000 Yeah.

02:12:17.000 It's a line that moves quickly.

02:12:17.000 Yeah.

02:12:18.000 You can see everything's made. 0.99

02:12:20.000 And it's a fucking huge place. 0.97

02:12:22.000 I think they're like the highest volume restaurant in the country. 0.99

02:12:25.000 Really?

02:12:26.000 Yeah, I think in terms of like brisket and barbecue and stuff, I think they were telling me that.

02:12:31.000 I forget what the exact statistic they told me, but it was like the volume of food that they serve there is like as high as anywhere in the country.

02:12:39.000 That makes sense.

02:12:40.000 There's always a line there.

02:12:41.000 Giant line.

02:12:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:12:43.000 And they always move quickly, so they're always getting people in and out.

02:12:45.000 Well, you can only eat so much. 1.00

02:12:47.000 Like when you sit down and eat barbecue, you ain't sitting there for three hours, bitch. 1.00

02:12:51.000 No. 1.00

02:12:52.000 No.

02:12:52.000 And you also always get more than you can eat.

02:12:54.000 Yeah.

02:12:55.000 Yeah.

02:12:55.000 You always like.

02:12:56.000 Yeah, because it looks so good up there.

02:12:57.000 And then like the second you have like their cornbread, you're so full. 0.99

02:13:00.000 What the fuck is that? 0.99

02:13:01.000 You're going to have those beef ribs, man. 1.00

02:13:02.000 They're so rich.

02:13:03.000 You can only eat like so much of it before you're like, oh.

02:13:08.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:13:09.000 Yeah.

02:13:10.000 Not before a show.

02:13:10.000 That's always a mistake that people make.

02:13:12.000 Bro, last time we had a whole group of us, I made a mistake of sitting next to Metzger, and I was in the corner. 0.93

02:13:18.000 I was fucking looming over me with conspiracy theories. 0.78

02:13:21.000 I'm like, Kurt, you got to stop. 0.99

02:13:23.000 Try to enjoy these ribs.

02:13:25.000 You got to stop.

02:13:26.000 I don't know if it's just the Terry Blacks in Austin because I know they have one in Dallas, I think, too. 0.92

02:13:30.000 But it says 18% of America's brisket is served by them.

02:13:35.000 18% of Americans have so much brisket.

02:13:39.000 That's crazy.

02:13:41.000 Metzger's a fun one.

02:13:42.000 In the green room, he says, my favorite is when he'll be like, what?

02:13:45.000 I thought this was common knowledge.

02:13:47.000 Yeah, you don't know.

02:13:47.000 You don't know?

02:13:48.000 There was something you said in the green room the other day about like Morgan Freeman.

02:13:52.000 Some deep conspiracy about Morgan Freeman. 0.99

02:13:55.000 And we're like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

02:13:56.000 It's like, well, I thought this was common knowledge. 0.99

02:13:57.000 It's like, no, no one knows anything about what you're talking about.

02:14:00.000 Is it the Morgan Freeman dated his granddaughter?

02:14:03.000 Yeah, his step-granddaughter.

02:14:04.000 Step-granddaughter.

02:14:05.000 Yeah, dated her, and then the boyfriend went crazy and like killed her.

02:14:12.000 And he was like, I thought that was common knowledge.

02:14:13.000 It's like, what do you mean?

02:14:15.000 The boyfriend went crazy and killed her?

02:14:15.000 Is that true?

02:14:17.000 That's what he said.

02:14:18.000 I looked at it afterwards and I was like, I don't know where Kurt gets his news plugged in straight from the Matrix, I think.

02:14:24.000 I don't even know where he finds his stuff.

02:14:26.000 Well, he's on that Jimmy Doer show.

02:14:29.000 You know, and Jimmy Door show, the entire show is about exposing corruption and conspiracies.

02:14:35.000 And it's a lot.

02:14:37.000 You live in that world all the time.

02:14:37.000 Yeah.

02:14:39.000 And everything becomes a conspiracy and everything.

02:14:40.000 It doesn't leave a lot of room for sunshine.

02:14:42.000 Also, here's the thing.

02:14:43.000 There's enough conspiracy.

02:14:44.000 Like we talked about the Franklin scandal.

02:14:46.000 There's enough conspiracies that are absolutely real and provable that if you go into it, you will kind of go crazy.

02:14:51.000 I mean, this is what kind of happened to Alex Jones.

02:14:51.000 Right.

02:14:54.000 This is what happens to a lot of people that get involved in conspiracies. 1.00

02:14:56.000 It's like you find out how many of them are true and you start losing your fucking mind. 0.99

02:15:01.000 You're like, what is real? 0.99

02:15:03.000 Like, what really controls the world? 0.99

02:15:05.000 Like, what fucking lizard people are really at the center of this whole thing? 0.99

02:15:08.000 Right. 0.99

02:15:09.000 That's kind of better to just stay away at a certain point.

02:15:09.000 Yeah.

02:15:12.000 Just be like, yeah.

02:15:13.000 Well, you should probably pay attention a little bit, but some people must have an obligation to do it because if it doesn't get exposed, then it's going to continue.

02:15:22.000 And the only way that you can kind of put a stop to this stuff is people have to get busted and they have to be held accountable.

02:15:26.000 The public has to get outraged.

02:15:28.000 So someone has to be making these videos.

02:15:30.000 But it doesn't have to be you.

02:15:31.000 Right.

02:15:32.000 Yeah.

02:15:32.000 It doesn't have to be you.

02:15:33.000 Like for your own personal mental health, it's just not good to absorb all of the evil of the world.

02:15:41.000 Yeah, there's no reason to take that on.

02:15:43.000 There's no reason.

02:15:43.000 Just find happiness in your lane.

02:15:46.000 Yeah.

02:15:47.000 I feel like that's pretty easy to do.

02:15:48.000 Yeah, I feel like that's pretty easy to do.

02:15:50.000 Yeah, just a lot of it.

02:15:52.000 Just be happy with where you are and work from there.

02:15:55.000 Yeah, but it's just like some people feel obligated to be a part of something, you know, and then you find the thing about with Metzger is like, he wasn't always like this.

02:16:05.000 I was friends with him long before he started working with Jimmy.

02:16:08.000 And he was, you know, fun and crazy, always like the same kind of guy.

02:16:13.000 But now it's like the obsession is all on deep corruption and conspiracies.

02:16:20.000 It's like, yo.

02:16:21.000 But he's right.

02:16:22.000 He's right about a lot of it.

02:16:24.000 Which is nuts.

02:16:24.000 Right.

02:16:25.000 And he maintains a lot of it in his fucking brain, just bouncing around in there. 1.00

02:16:31.000 But yeah, but I mean, it's, yeah, it just takes over man. 0.99

02:16:34.000 I do think White Precious, his Comedy Central special, that's low-key, one of the most underrated specials of all time.

02:16:42.000 The special is crazy.

02:16:42.000 He's very funny.

02:16:43.000 That special is great.

02:16:44.000 He's very good.

02:16:45.000 His writing's very good.

02:16:46.000 He's just very smart.

02:16:48.000 He's a great podcast guest, too.

02:16:50.000 Basically, just got to kind of corral him a little bit.

02:16:53.000 Because he'll go from one subject to the next subject to the next, all in like one rant.

02:16:57.000 You're like, okay, go back to that first one.

02:17:00.000 Queen Elizabeth did what? 0.84

02:17:02.000 Yeah.

02:17:03.000 Yeah.

02:17:03.000 You know?

02:17:04.000 He's just, well, we have a lot of, I mean, he's another one that lives in Austin now.

02:17:08.000 We have a lot of them.

02:17:09.000 It's pretty cool.

02:17:10.000 Yeah, it's so fun watching all these young kids dude rise up and be like and just like find themselves.

02:17:18.000 It's so like I mentioned Fuzzy earlier, but just watching him on stage, like he does it. 0.98

02:17:24.000 It's great watching him just like figure out to not give a fuck and then see what comes from that. 0.99

02:17:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:17:30.000 Like right now, he's doing these things at the end when he closes out like Fat Man.

02:17:33.000 He'll also do a Q ⁇ A, but he's not famous.

02:17:36.000 So the questions are so much funnier.

02:17:39.000 And like the answers are so much wilder because it's just some guy that they all just met.

02:17:43.000 That's hilarious.

02:17:44.000 Yeah, so it's a very fun dynamic to watch his Q ⁇ As and just being because the whole audience is like, wait, we're doing a Q ⁇ A. Why?

02:17:51.000 We had no questions coming in.

02:17:52.000 That's funny.

02:17:53.000 The first time I ever saw anybody do a Q ⁇ A was Seinfeld.

02:17:53.000 Yeah.

02:17:56.000 Really?

02:17:57.000 Yeah, he did a whole set.

02:17:58.000 He did like 45 minutes.

02:18:00.000 And then it was at the Paradise in Boston.

02:18:02.000 The Paradise was a small club.

02:18:04.000 It was a rock and roll club that was connected to Stitches.

02:18:07.000 And Stitches was the comedy club.

02:18:09.000 So for the comedy club, like if you're a regular comedian, I think Stitches probably seated maybe 150 people.

02:18:16.000 It was like a little bit bigger than Little Boy.

02:18:19.000 And so if you were a regular comic, like a Road headliner, you'd do Stitches.

02:18:25.000 And then if you're a big guy, like Jerry Seinfeld who'd been on television, you'd do the Paradise.

02:18:30.000 So I was with a date.

02:18:31.000 I think I was maybe 20.

02:18:33.000 And I went to see Jerry Seinfeld before I ever did stand up.

02:18:36.000 And he did stand up.

02:18:37.000 And then he came back out and he answered questions.

02:18:40.000 And he would just riff with the audience. 0.98

02:18:41.000 And it was fucking great. 0.98

02:18:43.000 It was really cool. 0.99

02:18:44.000 He just started riffing about stuff.

02:18:46.000 I guess that's like how he was creating material and coming up with new premises.

02:18:50.000 Yeah.

02:18:50.000 Do you get bits when you do that?

02:18:51.000 Sometimes.

02:18:52.000 Yeah.

02:18:53.000 It's, it's not an exact science.

02:18:55.000 Like, we'll have a whole fun Q ⁇ A session for 20 minutes and there's no bits.

02:19:00.000 And I'll do it five times, six times, and then one time, bam, I got one.

02:19:00.000 Right.

02:19:05.000 And then you just got to grab that sucker and reel it into the shore. 0.85

02:19:10.000 Yeah, and just work on it. 0.74

02:19:11.000 Yeah, and then figure it out.

02:19:12.000 But I've bottom of the barrel is the best.

02:19:14.000 Bottom of the barrel is the best premise factory ever.

02:19:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:19:17.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:18.000 I feel like, because there's certain people who do it.

02:19:20.000 Like, I think you're great at it.

02:19:22.000 And I feel like you should, like, if you were thinking about doing a special, would you ever consider doing a bottom of the barrel type special? 0.95

02:19:27.000 No, because I'd say too much wild shit that I wouldn't want to get published. 0.89

02:19:30.000 That's a very fair point. 0.99

02:19:31.000 That's a very, the most insane shit I've ever said has been on bottom of the barrel. 1.00

02:19:35.000 And just like, I'm so glad there's a place where I can get this thought out because they'll look at you like, yo, what the fuck? 0.99

02:19:41.000 And you're like, hey, this isn't my idea. 0.99

02:19:44.000 You fucking wrote this down. 0.99

02:19:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:19:46.000 They get mad at you for that.

02:19:46.000 Yeah.

02:19:49.000 I remember one time I got bestiality and it reminded me of a story.

02:19:54.000 So the way we consumed porn as kids, because you guys had like magazines and you'd find in the woods.

02:19:59.000 You have a bit about that.

02:20:00.000 Yeah.

02:20:00.000 That wasn't us.

02:20:01.000 So there was these, this is like pre-pornhub.

02:20:03.000 So these pre-Youtubes of porn, as I call them, but there were these like dedicated sites.

02:20:07.000 They'd be like, one of them was like Mr. Chu's Asian Beaver. 0.99

02:20:11.000 I think you can tell what that's about.

02:20:13.000 That one was a great thing.

02:20:16.000 Probably run by a Jewish guy. 0.65

02:20:17.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:20:18.000 Definitely not a Mr. Chu.

02:20:19.000 There was at the very end, there was this very racist cartoon Beaver, and he would have like the buck teeth and the rice hat, and then he would rate every girl out of Fortune, like out of five Fortune cookies at the end of each video.

02:20:31.000 That was the whole premise of the site. 0.60

02:20:35.000 That's what we were coming up with in porn. 0.95

02:20:37.000 And then one day, and we'd watch that together in like seventh grade.

02:20:39.000 Like that's the R huddling around the magazine. 0.99

02:20:42.000 And then one day we invited the weird guy and he had found one where people fuck animals. 0.99

02:20:48.000 Yeah, it was like wild. 0.96

02:20:50.000 And there's been very famous videos.

02:20:51.000 I think there's one called like Mr. Hands or something like that.

02:20:54.000 There's very famous, like those originated out of those sites.

02:20:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:20:57.000 And so he was showing us that. 0.99

02:20:59.000 And then what I said on stage is, it gave me the life experience to know that sometimes when you, sometimes when you watch people fuck a dog, sometime the dog enjoys it. 0.97

02:21:10.000 And they all looked at me like I was horrified, which is a kind of horrifying thing to say, but I was also like, well, you brought it up. 0.94

02:21:15.000 I wasn't going to tell the story unless you asked me.

02:21:15.000 Yeah.

02:21:18.000 Some dogs must like it. 1.00

02:21:19.000 There's probably a girl dog out there that likes some dick. 1.00

02:21:22.000 Oh, I mean, there's probably a guy. 1.00

02:21:23.000 There's probably a guy dog out there that's giving some dick right now. 0.99

02:21:26.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:21:26.000 Ladies. 1.00

02:21:26.000 For sure. 1.00

02:21:27.000 To some crazy ladies. 1.00

02:21:29.000 Seen videos when I was a kid, there was like this video that a friend of mine had, and I remember one of us had to watch the door.

02:21:35.000 So it was like a sentry?

02:21:38.000 Yeah, because there's a door down into the basement. 0.97

02:21:40.000 So one of us had to stand up at the door, and the rest of us were huddled in front of this fucking 12-inch television with a VCR attached to it. 0.99

02:21:48.000 Damn. 1.00

02:21:49.000 And you put the VHS tape in there. 1.00

02:21:50.000 We're watching like a copy of a copy of a copy of Barnyard Betty.

02:21:55.000 And Barnyard Betty was this crazy. 1.00

02:21:57.000 They took some crazy crackhead and they gave her money to suck a dog's dick and get fucked by a German Shepherd. 1.00

02:22:04.000 It's weird to watch, man. 1.00

02:22:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:22:07.000 You come across some weird shit out there. 1.00

02:22:09.000 Dog just pumped nut into this fucking poor, drunken, sad, alcoholic, drug addict lady. 1.00

02:22:16.000 Jesus. 1.00

02:22:18.000 Sad.

02:22:18.000 Yeah.

02:22:19.000 Yeah.

02:22:19.000 Sad.

02:22:20.000 That's a. 1.00

02:22:21.000 But that's, yeah, that's, that's how fucked. 1.00

02:22:24.000 Well, porn's fucked. 0.99

02:22:25.000 It's just so, it's so crazy how it's just moved towards. 0.99

02:22:28.000 I guess it's more empowering, I guess, what it's about, individual creators.

02:22:32.000 Right, like OnlyFans?

02:22:33.000 Yeah.

02:22:34.000 Do you know the numbers?

02:22:35.000 You ever seen the numbers?

02:22:36.000 I saw the one lady that makes more than LeBron. 0.84

02:22:39.000 Yeah, that, but I mean, the number of actual girls that are on OnlyFans.

02:22:43.000 Oh, it must be.

02:22:44.000 It must be depressing.

02:22:45.000 Crazy.

02:22:46.000 Yeah, and it must be depressing how many people are selling themselves to like nobody.

02:22:49.000 Exactly.

02:22:50.000 That's the thing.

02:22:51.000 The vast majority aren't making any money.

02:22:53.000 Right. 1.00

02:22:53.000 And then their pussy's out there forever. 1.00

02:22:55.000 Just forever. 1.00

02:22:56.000 Yeah, they're getting fucked by a dildo in front of the whole world. 0.99

02:22:58.000 A guy saves it on his hard drive forever and ever and ever and ever. 0.99

02:23:01.000 Right.

02:23:02.000 And you were 19 and you just didn't want to work.

02:23:05.000 But I think the number between girls of 18 to, I forget what the age is, something in their 20s, it's like 10%.

02:23:12.000 That's crazy.

02:23:13.000 That's wild.

02:23:14.000 But it's content creation.

02:23:15.000 It's like that's a genuine market that people are going for.

02:23:18.000 That's the way to do it.

02:23:19.000 It's also pornography.

02:23:20.000 It is pornography.

02:23:21.000 But I mean, content creation is TikTok, Instagram.

02:23:21.000 Right.

02:23:24.000 Right.

02:23:25.000 Like, that's content creation.

02:23:25.000 You know what I mean?

02:23:27.000 I think they view it in the same vein.

02:23:29.000 Wow.

02:23:31.000 It depends on what you do, right?

02:23:32.000 I know that top lady, and this is something. 1.00

02:23:35.000 Sophie Rain.

02:23:36.000 And this is something that's just interesting across all Gen Z is that her thing is that she's a virgin.

02:23:40.000 Right.

02:23:41.000 And that's how she sells, which is like, yeah, which, you know, take it for what it is, but like her and that the Nick Shirley guy virgin, Nick Fuentes virgin, it's like, that's like a thing that you can sell to Gen Z is virginity. 0.60

02:23:54.000 Yeah, you were talking to me about this in the green room, that like this incel problem is unrecognized.

02:24:00.000 That there's a giant percentage of people that are like voluntarily celibate in this country.

02:24:04.000 Yes, I think so.

02:24:05.000 And it's like a lot of it is maybe this sort of new religious, this sort of religious fervor that's sort of developing with them as well because Gen Z is more religious. 0.87

02:24:13.000 Yeah, but aren't they horny? 0.87

02:24:14.000 I don't get it.

02:24:14.000 They're not me.

02:24:15.000 They're not, there's something like some crazy amount of women under 25 have never been approached by a guy their age like in public.

02:24:22.000 What?

02:24:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:24:24.000 The game is DMs, so it's all online.

02:24:26.000 So it's all feeling that sort of loneliness.

02:24:28.000 Yeah, they don't go out. 0.99

02:24:29.000 They don't go out like alcohol consumption from Gen Z to millennials is like they drink 800% less, some crazy shit like that. 0.91

02:24:37.000 Third spaces, you know the concept of a third space? 0.93

02:24:39.000 No.

02:24:40.000 Okay, so you have work at home.

02:24:42.000 That's space one, space two.

02:24:43.000 And a third space is like, you know, when I was in college, we go to the bowling alley every day for one summer.

02:24:51.000 So a place that you can all go.

02:24:51.000 It was stuff like that.

02:24:52.000 The library, the mall, places to exist outside of the two spaces.

02:24:56.000 Those places are completely disappearing.

02:24:57.000 Whether people are staying inside all the time or they've become too expensive.

02:25:02.000 Like movies now are like very expensive.

02:25:04.000 So it's like kind of priced out of being a third space on top of all the things that are going on with movies.

02:25:09.000 So those are also disappearing.

02:25:11.000 So places where you can meet someone in person are gone.

02:25:16.000 So they're not meeting in person.

02:25:17.000 A lot of it is app-driven and, you know.

02:25:22.000 And then you got to wonder about like sex drive drop-off.

02:25:26.000 You can access porn instantly now.

02:25:31.000 Right. 0.95

02:25:31.000 So you can at least play that part of your brain, give it something. 0.95

02:25:36.000 Right.

02:25:36.000 Give it a rush of some kind that it would kind of maybe get from like a lesser version of sex, but still fill that void.

02:25:43.000 Right.

02:25:43.000 You can, you know, you can't do that.

02:25:44.000 There's also testosterone levels have dropped.

02:25:47.000 Like fertility levels amongst women have dropped.

02:25:50.000 Yeah.

02:25:51.000 Miscarriages have risen.

02:25:53.000 The West, the West, the fertility rates in the West are like massively concerning.

02:25:58.000 Like it's, you know, people like worry about bringing in migrants, but at the same time, they're the only ones having kids at replacement level. 1.00

02:26:06.000 Like the West isn't having that.

02:26:08.000 I had my 15-year high school reunion recently, and I was in town.

02:26:11.000 I was like, I'll go to this. 0.95

02:26:12.000 And I was like, damn, I'll probably be the only one who's not married and doesn't have kids. 0.79

02:26:16.000 And most of the people weren't married or didn't have kids. 0.94

02:26:20.000 How old are you now?

02:26:21.000 33.

02:26:22.000 Wow.

02:26:22.000 Yeah.

02:26:24.000 Most of the people there just, I would say, have, yeah, didn't have kids, which is which is wild.

02:26:29.000 33 at any other generation, this is a late time to not have a kid.

02:26:33.000 This is pretty, for people who grew up middle-class millennial, I would say this is pretty standard to not have a kid.

02:26:33.000 Yeah.

02:26:41.000 And there's certain, I think, driving factors to the fact that a house is unbuyable for a lot of people my age and a younger.

02:26:48.000 That like, because you're sold to dream on a house and two kids.

02:26:52.000 Well, if you can't get the house, like it, it sucks to be renting with kids.

02:26:57.000 You know, the instability.

02:26:57.000 Right.

02:27:00.000 Average home buyer age is increasing by the median age for all U.S. home buyers reaching 59.

02:27:06.000 Yeah.

02:27:06.000 Whoa, that's pretty late.

02:27:07.000 Yeah, record high.

02:27:08.000 Late 2025, 40.

02:27:10.000 Median age for first-time buyers hit a record high of 40.

02:27:13.000 Yeah, so it's like, that's how much, that's how long you have to, like, it's hard to raise a kid without a house, you know?

02:27:19.000 That's crazy.

02:27:20.000 And the American, I think the American community in that way is dying because like, you know, it takes a village to raise a child.

02:27:26.000 So you raise a house, you raise a child in a house you bought.

02:27:29.000 Your neighbors generally say the same.

02:27:30.000 There's a certain level of comfort and like, you know, oh, my mom couldn't do this thing for me.

02:27:34.000 I can go to my neighbor's house.

02:27:35.000 And you know what I mean?

02:27:36.000 There's safety in that.

02:27:37.000 But if everyone around you is a renter, then your community kind of disappears.

02:27:41.000 Yeah.

02:27:42.000 There's no like set community.

02:27:44.000 That's a really good point.

02:27:45.000 And it's like bringing up a kids need consistency.

02:27:50.000 So bringing up in a world that's constantly shifting, it's probably anxiety-inducing to people who can't afford homes.

02:27:58.000 For sure.

02:27:59.000 Definitely on that.

02:28:00.000 And then childcare is expensive.

02:28:01.000 Then if also your friends aren't doing it, you know?

02:28:04.000 And then women are waiting later and later because they want to prolong their careers. 1.00

02:28:08.000 Right.

02:28:09.000 And then it becomes harder.

02:28:10.000 And then you get into in vitro fertilization.

02:28:13.000 Yeah, there's definitely some with this wave of feminism and capitalism. 1.00

02:28:17.000 There's definitely some like insidious ties there of just like you can you can oh like work create capital for us and then make it make it so it's impossible or very hard for a one working house spouse to like just if the man is working to raise a kid do you think it's on purpose I think Maybe it didn't start on purpose, but I think it sort of became intertwined.

02:28:44.000 Well, isn't it just a side effect?

02:28:48.000 If women want to pursue careers, you're going to have less children. 1.00

02:28:51.000 But that is for sure.

02:28:54.000 But there's a thing about it, there's this like almost demonization of the women who choose to stay at home.

02:29:00.000 Like, you know, it's like look down, oh, trad wife, it's looked down on.

02:29:03.000 Right, but isn't that just because of the women that are pursuing careers that give them that look down on? 1.00

02:29:09.000 Yeah, this is true.

02:29:10.000 And it's probably because they secretly feel like maybe they're missing out.

02:29:14.000 Maybe.

02:29:15.000 To me, it's like it's so funny that both can exist.

02:29:18.000 It can be the women that go for their careers and the women that want to stay home. 1.00

02:29:21.000 It's just for one group to demonize the other, I think, is just very interesting.

02:29:24.000 Yeah, it is weird, but it's also like population drop is a real thing.

02:29:29.000 It does look like the humanity.

02:29:30.000 Have you ever seen that population curve of the deer?

02:29:34.000 Yeah, it's like, so I think humanity is kind of at that point where it levels off.

02:29:39.000 Have you seen?

02:29:39.000 Yeah, because I remember my bio classes, which that would be the population, like the exponential growth and then the level off.

02:29:45.000 And we've had the exponential growth, and we're looking like that part of the graph.

02:29:49.000 Well, the thing is, like, there is still exponential growth.

02:29:51.000 It's just not in the West.

02:29:52.000 That's what's kind of weird.

02:29:54.000 Right.

02:29:55.000 Poor people want to have a bunch of kids and they're having them all the time.

02:29:55.000 Poor people.

02:29:58.000 Right.

02:29:59.000 And then they want to come over here.

02:30:00.000 Yeah.

02:30:01.000 Take over Minnesota.

02:30:04.000 And then have their kids in daycare. 0.98

02:30:06.000 That doesn't exist.

02:30:07.000 Right.

02:30:07.000 But yeah, there is something happening in the West.

02:30:10.000 Or like the way that South Korea and Japan. 1.00

02:30:13.000 Oh, they're fucked. 1.00

02:30:14.000 They're like fucked. 1.00

02:30:15.000 They're like actually fucked. 1.00

02:30:16.000 They're like a couple generations away from how you're going to support this whole thing unless you let people in. 0.99

02:30:21.000 Well, or you encourage people to have kids if you turn it around with the youngest people and then you have like a blip for a while, but then it gets back to it.

02:30:30.000 But man, you have to like make a concerted effort.

02:30:32.000 And how do you encourage people to have children?

02:30:34.000 Like, because you're going to have to have women that don't pursue careers. 1.00

02:30:38.000 Right.

02:30:39.000 If you have five kids, like, what are you going to do?

02:30:42.000 You're working all day?

02:30:43.000 Right.

02:30:43.000 That's kind of crazy.

02:30:44.000 And when you have kids, you realize how nuts that is.

02:30:47.000 Because it's like, man, your kids, they want their parents.

02:30:50.000 And that's good for them to have their parents around, especially in this world of predators and creeps and weirdos and things that can happen at daycare.

02:30:59.000 Right.

02:30:59.000 Yeah.

02:31:00.000 Yeah.

02:31:00.000 No, it's, it's, I don't know how they would incentivize that to happen.

02:31:05.000 How do you?

02:31:06.000 Yeah, you can't, you can't really.

02:31:08.000 Yeah, because people are selfish.

02:31:10.000 They want what they want in their life.

02:31:12.000 And, you know, when Elon's like, oh, we're exposing population to collapse.

02:31:15.000 They're like, so not me.

02:31:16.000 Bye.

02:31:17.000 Right.

02:31:17.000 I'm going to the movies with my friends.

02:31:19.000 You know what I mean?

02:31:19.000 Like the idea of changing diapers.

02:31:21.000 Like, I don't want, I don't like her that much to stick around with her for the next 18 years.

02:31:26.000 Yeah, you also, you also, when you have the ability to choose everyone at your fingertips, it's like Netflix.

02:31:32.000 When you can watch everything, you watch nothing.

02:31:34.000 So we can choose everyone.

02:31:36.000 You don't commit to anything.

02:31:37.000 Right.

02:31:37.000 Yeah, it's just because everything's these sort of superfluous, like kind of deep relationships.

02:31:43.000 I know a lot of people that have used the apps and then found someone and got off the apps.

02:31:47.000 So there are people, but generally they're a little older.

02:31:49.000 Right?

02:31:50.000 Yes, they're like, at a certain age, you sort of like look for that.

02:31:54.000 Yeah.

02:31:55.000 But like in your early 20s, when people were like settling down in their 20s beforehand, it made sense.

02:31:59.000 They were the only person around, maybe like, but now you're in a city, you can just, it can be like in a big one in New York where there's like an endless stream of people.

02:32:08.000 There's no reason to make a choice if you don't want to.

02:32:12.000 I saw a video of a lady who created an app where a man is allowed to pay for her preparation for the date. 0.85

02:32:21.000 So the man sends her money so that she can get her nails done, get clothes for the date, all these different things for the date. 0.75

02:32:29.000 And this lady set up this app. 1.00

02:32:31.000 Damn. 0.99

02:32:32.000 I'm like. 0.99

02:32:32.000 It's smart. 0.99

02:32:33.000 It's kind of prostitution. 1.00

02:32:35.000 I mean, it's sure.

02:32:37.000 I mean, it's kind of without the guarantee of sex.

02:32:40.000 I know.

02:32:40.000 It's weird.

02:32:41.000 You're not just showing up.

02:32:42.000 These are my clothes.

02:32:43.000 I drove here in my car.

02:32:44.000 I'm meeting a person.

02:32:46.000 No, it's that person is paying me to prepare for our date.

02:32:49.000 Right.

02:32:50.000 And creating me into a person in his head.

02:32:52.000 It's well, you're going to get a very different kind of person that's going to meet you.

02:32:56.000 You're going to get a kind of person that's willing to give you money immediately before he has any connection with you at all.

02:33:03.000 Right. 0.99

02:33:03.000 Like he might meet you and you're fucking super annoying. 0.99

02:33:06.000 He's like, God damn it, I gave that bitch a hundred bucks. 1.00

02:33:09.000 That's so funny. 1.00

02:33:09.000 That's a Richard. 1.00

02:33:11.000 I think it was Richard Feynman.

02:33:12.000 He was talking about getting girls because he was good at it.

02:33:14.000 And he was like, yeah, I never paid for the drink on the first date.

02:33:18.000 Never.

02:33:18.000 Something like that.

02:33:19.000 That's kind of crazy.

02:33:19.000 Yeah.

02:33:21.000 That's not going to get a lot of quality women. 1.00

02:33:23.000 Maybe it was back then.

02:33:24.000 It was different.

02:33:24.000 Yeah.

02:33:25.000 And you're kind of famous in your world.

02:33:28.000 Yeah.

02:33:28.000 He's a famous, brilliant guy.

02:33:30.000 The scientists back then were all like rock stars.

02:33:33.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:33:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:33:34.000 They're all like just fucking everyone around them. 1.00

02:33:36.000 They're nuts. 1.00

02:33:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:33:37.000 And that was just making the atomic bomb, just fucking losing their minds. 0.97

02:33:41.000 That was the crazy thing about the Oppenheimer thing, right? 0.99

02:33:44.000 Oppenheimer was a freak.

02:33:46.000 Good for him. 1.00

02:33:46.000 He's just out there getting his fuck on. 1.00

02:33:48.000 Yeah, fucking communist chicks. 1.00

02:33:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:33:51.000 They're probably fun.

02:33:52.000 Oh, yeah.

02:33:53.000 That's living, especially back then, that's living dangerously. 0.96

02:33:55.000 That's the same level of, that's the same level of calm as the gay Republican senator. 0.94

02:33:59.000 It's like, this is banned. 0.92

02:34:01.000 Right.

02:34:03.000 Right. 0.98

02:34:04.000 How many gay Republican senators do you think there are? 0.76

02:34:06.000 I mean, not zero. 0.93

02:34:09.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:34:10.000 In the closet, not zero.

02:34:11.000 No, definitely not.

02:34:12.000 It is usually the ones that are like the most pro.

02:34:15.000 Like anyone who's still very pro, anti-gay marriage now, like loudly, it's like, what's going on here?

02:34:19.000 Or really into war? 0.78

02:34:23.000 We got to get those Iraqis out of their homes. 1.00

02:34:27.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:34:28.000 The fucking, just so just war hawks with Iran's going through it right now. 1.00

02:34:33.000 What's going on right now? 1.00

02:34:34.000 Yeah, you don't know what's happening in Iran?

02:34:35.000 I know about the protests and I know about killing the protesters.

02:34:38.000 Yeah, that's what, yeah.

02:34:40.000 It seems like there's some sort of a strike that might be imminent.

02:34:43.000 Isn't it?

02:34:44.000 It feels like it.

02:34:45.000 Like from the United States. 0.98

02:34:47.000 Yeah.

02:34:47.000 I think the U.S. is kind of going to stay back for a little bit.

02:34:50.000 You think so?

02:34:51.000 A week in the ran is that they're weak right now because they're dealing with internal strife.

02:34:55.000 It's kind of crazy to see how many people are on the streets.

02:34:58.000 I mean, the Iranian, the average Iranian civilian has gotten a pretty raw deal since the 50s, since we installed the Shah.

02:35:08.000 Yeah.

02:35:09.000 We installed the Shah, and then Khomeini comes and is like, hey, remember the democracy they stole from you? 0.98

02:35:15.000 Because we had deposed an elected leader.

02:35:18.000 Well, we'll bring it back.

02:35:19.000 And they're like, okay. 1.00

02:35:19.000 And then the clerics just took over and fucked them. 1.00

02:35:22.000 And they've just been a constant stream of like the average Iranian citizen just getting fucked by outside forces for so long. 0.99

02:35:29.000 Well, it's all about the nationalization of their oil. 0.95

02:35:32.000 Yep.

02:35:32.000 They wanted to nationalize their oil.

02:35:34.000 And we were like, no.

02:35:35.000 No, play. 1.00

02:35:36.000 Yeah, fuck that. 1.00

02:35:37.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:35:38.000 You think you're going to have control over your own state? 1.00

02:35:40.000 Get out of here.

02:35:41.000 You heard Metzger's theory about Venezuela last night?

02:35:45.000 No.

02:35:45.000 He's like, he goes, I think, I think Maduro is secretly working for the CIA.

02:35:51.000 He helped them arrest him, and then he is going to testify that the 2020 elections were rigged.

02:35:57.000 Wow.

02:35:58.000 If that comes true, what a Babe Ruth call.

02:36:01.000 What a point to the sky that is.

02:36:03.000 That's crazy.

02:36:04.000 If that comes true, I'm buying you a car.

02:36:07.000 Find a car you're really like.

02:36:08.000 We're going to get you a car.

02:36:09.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

02:36:10.000 You need an American muscle guard.

02:36:12.000 I'll get you a Mustang GT or something.

02:36:13.000 But it wasn't this.

02:36:14.000 When the Iranians protest, it's like admirable because you know they're going to die. 1.00

02:36:18.000 A lot of them have already died.

02:36:19.000 A lot of them.

02:36:20.000 Thousands of them.

02:36:20.000 A lot of them died.

02:36:21.000 And the same with the hijab protests where just women were disappearing for not wearing a hijab. 1.00

02:36:25.000 It's like, damn, bro. 0.99

02:36:26.000 That's a bad guy. 1.00

02:36:28.000 They really like it.

02:36:30.000 They've gotten a raw deal historically for the last half a century and they're still fighting.

02:36:35.000 Yeah, crazy.

02:36:36.000 Yeah, I read when I was a kid, I read this book called Persepolis.

02:36:39.000 It's in my greatest books of all time.

02:36:41.000 But it's I read Persepolis and I was like maybe in high school, early late middle school, and I just realized, like, oh, man.

02:36:49.000 Because you get bombarded, especially at that time, where in fighting in the Middle East, you get bombarded with propaganda of like what these people are like over there.

02:36:55.000 And I'm reading Persepolis.

02:36:56.000 I'm like, oh, right, they're just people. 0.99

02:36:58.000 Like, she has a scene where she's just wanting to listen to music with her friends, but the Islamic police is like, will fucking fuck them up if they get caught. 0.99

02:37:07.000 And they just have these secret parties with just listening to music. 0.99

02:37:10.000 Secret listening to music parties.

02:37:11.000 Just listening to music.

02:37:12.000 They're open jail.

02:37:13.000 Yeah.

02:37:14.000 Just regular things.

02:37:16.000 What is this?

02:37:17.000 Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado insists that Maduro rigged the 2020 U.S. elections against Donald Trump and many other elections in the region.

02:37:27.000 What?

02:37:28.000 Tweets now.

02:37:29.000 I saw that going around too, so I don't know that Kurt's too crazy on that one.

02:37:33.000 Yeah, this isn't even the first one.

02:37:33.000 What?

02:37:35.000 This was just I was showing you the data.

02:37:37.000 How could Maduro rig United States elections?

02:37:41.000 Yeah, where is that power coming from?

02:37:44.000 All of a sudden?

02:37:45.000 Because if the power to rig election, do you think he would be able to stop himself from getting arrested?

02:37:49.000 This is from the gray zone.

02:37:50.000 It says Hugo El Polo Carvajal is likely to serve as the star witness for the U.S. against Maduro.

02:37:59.000 Max Blumenthal reveals Carvajal is a coerced witness who cut a secret plea deal to save himself.

02:38:06.000 He's even indulging Trump's conspiracy theory that Venezuela rigged the 2020 U.S. election.

02:38:13.000 Hmm.

02:38:15.000 What's the gray zone?

02:38:16.000 Is that I think that's Max Blumenthal's show?

02:38:19.000 Okay, so that's like a source?

02:38:21.000 Okay, okay, okay.

02:38:21.000 Yeah.

02:38:22.000 He's legit.

02:38:23.000 Yeah.

02:38:23.000 Okay.

02:38:24.000 Anti-war.

02:38:27.000 So if he's saying that, maybe there's something to it. 0.99

02:38:31.000 Damn. 0.97

02:38:33.000 How would he, and what mechanism would Maduro be able to do an election? 0.99

02:38:37.000 Like, what are, okay, let's find that out.

02:38:39.000 How do they think Maduro had a hand in rigging the 2020 election?

02:38:42.000 What's the conspiracy?

02:38:43.000 Yeah, was it like he did all the, like he helped with the mail-in votes?

02:38:47.000 Right.

02:38:48.000 Because that's the only way you could steal that election, right?

02:38:50.000 Like, Venezuela is pretty far away.

02:38:52.000 Here's a tweet from before the election even happened.

02:38:55.000 Nicholas Maduro's campaign manager, this is from 2024, just went on national TV to declare victory despite exit polls showing a historic loss for their socialist regime.

02:39:06.000 They're setting up to commit a bigger election theft than the 2020 election in the United States.

02:39:12.000 That doesn't add up.

02:39:13.000 No, that's not.

02:39:15.000 That's just someone's opinion.

02:39:16.000 Yeah, how does that add up?

02:39:17.000 That they're stealing the election?

02:39:20.000 But they did steal it in Venezuela.

02:39:22.000 Yeah, that's for sure.

02:39:24.000 What does it say?

02:39:26.000 It says he did clearly stole Venezuela's election, threatened bloodshed if he lost, restricted, what is that, Intel?

02:39:38.000 What is it?

02:39:38.000 International Observers.

02:39:39.000 International Observers.

02:39:41.000 Block transmission of results.

02:39:44.000 Yeah, that definitely happened.

02:39:46.000 I mean, it was very telling how happy the Venezuelans in America were when he was gone.

02:39:51.000 Yeah.

02:39:52.000 That was a genuine thing.

02:39:53.000 They were very, very pleased about that.

02:39:57.000 Yeah.

02:39:57.000 And then you had people, you had like white leftists be like, this is bad.

02:40:02.000 Yeah, you're supporting a dictator.

02:40:04.000 It's like, and the way they did it was so unprecedented. 1.00

02:40:06.000 Going and storm the fucking castle and steal the guy. 1.00

02:40:10.000 What? 1.00

02:40:11.000 Kind of shows the power.

02:40:12.000 Like, it kind of tells also the other countries, like, hey, back off.

02:40:15.000 Well, it's pretty crazy what they did, if it's true, with that whole sonar weapon or sound weapon, whatever it did that, like, literally, like, makes your organs bubble.

02:40:24.000 And everybody, like, falls to the ground.

02:40:25.000 They're in writhing in pain and agony.

02:40:28.000 And then they just stormed in and everybody was incapacitated. 1.00

02:40:31.000 Damn. 1.00

02:40:31.000 Stormed in, fucked everybody up. 1.00

02:40:33.000 And that was a wrap. 0.98

02:40:34.000 Well, if that's what war is becoming, that's kind of better. 0.97

02:40:37.000 It's kind of crazy.

02:40:39.000 That's kind of better than like ground troops and nonstop fighting and 20 years in Afghanistan.

02:40:45.000 Okay, here's lawyer Sidney Powell in 2020 talking about Maduro having access to voting fraud technology. 0.97

02:40:52.000 Maduro is going to sing like a canary and the Democrats are screwed. 0.78

02:40:55.000 No wonder what. 0.99

02:40:56.000 Okay.

02:40:57.000 Is that lady even real? 1.00

02:40:58.000 Who?

02:40:59.000 That looks like a person, the person tweeting this.

02:41:04.000 See, this reeks of botany.

02:41:07.000 Follow me for breaking news.

02:41:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:41:09.000 Yeah.

02:41:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:41:10.000 Yeah.

02:41:11.000 Why do you know?

02:41:13.000 Or just guy account clearly just making stuff up.

02:41:17.000 See if you can find an account of how they did it because there's an account by someone who is a witness that was there at the scene that said how fucking crazy it was that these guys came out of nowhere.

02:41:28.000 The helicopters came out of nowhere.

02:41:29.000 The drones, they shut down all the radar.

02:41:32.000 Everything got shut down.

02:41:33.000 And then all of a sudden there's drones flying everywhere and helicopters. 0.99

02:41:37.000 And these dudes, 20 guys, killed, you know, who knows how many fucking humans. 0.99

02:41:42.000 Right. 0.99

02:41:43.000 No one got killed on the American side.

02:41:45.000 They captured him and his wife, stuffed him back in the helicopter, and they were in and out in 10 minutes.

02:41:50.000 In 10 minutes, yeah.

02:41:52.000 There's a very famous video of a Twitch streamer in Venezuela just out in the streets, and then everything just really?

02:41:59.000 Yeah.

02:42:00.000 Yeah, it just goes dark.

02:42:00.000 Whoa.

02:42:02.000 That's crazy. 1.00

02:42:03.000 Damn. 1.00

02:42:04.000 That's crazy. 1.00

02:42:05.000 And yeah, and you're a human.

02:42:06.000 You can tell, like, oh, something's up.

02:42:08.000 This is not a normal everything, like all the streetlights.

02:42:10.000 It went just dark.

02:42:11.000 What's crazy because we knew they had some really wild technology, but they didn't know.

02:42:15.000 We didn't know what they were capable of until we've seen this.

02:42:18.000 And we're like, oh.

02:42:19.000 What's really interesting is my friend Evan Hafer was talking about that like a year ago on the podcast.

02:42:25.000 He was talking about it maybe less than a year.

02:42:27.000 He was like, if we go to war with the cartels, like they have no idea what kind of ultraviolence they're in for. 0.98

02:42:37.000 He's like, the shit that these guys are going to do when they're going to plan this out, they built a replica of his house and they went through it blindfolded. 0.99

02:42:46.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:42:47.000 So they know exactly where every turn is, where to go.

02:42:51.000 They war planned this for a long time.

02:42:53.000 The camera thing was false.

02:42:55.000 Oh, it was false?

02:42:56.000 Which one?

02:42:57.000 Over the live stream going out.

02:42:59.000 Right, but find the account of the witness.

02:43:02.000 I stumbled across that on the way to it.

02:43:04.000 Okay.

02:43:05.000 The account of the guy who said he was there, if it's accurate, is crazy.

02:43:09.000 Because he basically said they just incapacitated everyone and then just went in and murdered everybody and pulled out Maduro.

02:43:17.000 Like no one could move.

02:43:19.000 You can't do anything.

02:43:20.000 And then these guys land in helicopters and everyone's writhing in agony.

02:43:23.000 Like, just running through. 1.00

02:43:26.000 Damn. 1.00

02:43:27.000 No one got shot back at. 1.00

02:43:27.000 Whacked everybody. 1.00

02:43:29.000 Crazy.

02:43:30.000 Yeah, but I think, yeah, I think that's what warfare, outside of what's happening in Russia, Ukraine, that's kind of what warfare is now, right?

02:43:35.000 Like, oh, is Iran going to Israel going to go to war with Iran?

02:43:39.000 We'll just quickly just take out all their generals real quick. 0.93

02:43:42.000 Well, that's the threat of war is done.

02:43:44.000 You know, you're dealing with Venezuela versus the United States of America.

02:43:49.000 Right.

02:43:49.000 But if it was the United States of America versus Russia or China, it'd be a lot different.

02:43:53.000 It's a lot more fucked up. 0.99

02:43:54.000 You know, Venezuela doesn't have nuclear bombs. 1.00

02:43:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:43:56.000 That's why we get away with shit like this. 1.00

02:43:58.000 Right, right. 1.00

02:43:59.000 Right.

02:44:00.000 Yeah, that's a fair point.

02:44:02.000 That is part of the thing, you know?

02:44:04.000 And then it's like, the whole thing's so transparent.

02:44:07.000 Trump's like, immediately, we're going to take the oil.

02:44:09.000 There's plenty of oil.

02:44:10.000 Oh, yeah.

02:44:11.000 Working on a deal.

02:44:12.000 Yeah, I don't think it was a coincidence that all of a sudden I had gas under $2 last week in the gas station across the street.

02:44:19.000 I was like, huh, I wonder if that's Venezuela related.

02:44:21.000 Not in California.

02:44:23.000 California gas companies are pulling out.

02:44:25.000 Valero pulled out of California.

02:44:28.000 It's going to cost them $1 billion.

02:44:31.000 And they're like, yeah.

02:44:32.000 It's not worth it.

02:44:33.000 I'd rather leave.

02:44:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:44:34.000 Damn. 1.00

02:44:35.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:44:36.000 Well, yeah, the cost of living there is so high, too. 1.00

02:44:38.000 It's like, like when we talk about like young comics, it's like it's what you have in Austin is like at least a way, a much cheaper quality of life.

02:44:48.000 And better.

02:44:49.000 And better, yeah, where you have space and like, you know, things are more expensive than anywhere else in Texas, probably for sure.

02:44:55.000 But like, it's still like gas was under $2.

02:44:57.000 You can get, you can, like, rent is stabilizing.

02:45:00.000 It's going down.

02:45:01.000 It's going to go down.

02:45:02.000 I think a lot of like California and New York developers came in here and they were like, Austin's where people are, so we can just build a lot.

02:45:08.000 But in New York and California, you have a finite amount of space.

02:45:12.000 In Austin, you can just build out.

02:45:14.000 And once you build out, like, the rent at my place went down because people were like, oh, I'll just buy a house out there.

02:45:19.000 And no one's living in the apartment complex.

02:45:19.000 Right.

02:45:21.000 And it drops, like, you know, like.

02:45:22.000 If you live in Dripping Springs, it's way cheaper and it's only 30 minutes away.

02:45:26.000 Everywhere in the country, 30-minute commute is normal.

02:45:28.000 Right.

02:45:29.000 Right.

02:45:29.000 Yeah.

02:45:30.000 Here, here, what's nice about here is you'll see something that's 15 minutes.

02:45:30.000 It's normal.

02:45:34.000 It'll be 15 miles.

02:45:34.000 You'd be like, oh, that's normal.

02:45:36.000 That's normal.

02:45:38.000 LAST.

02:45:39.000 Yeah, it was an hour and a half.

02:45:41.000 No, it was almost two hours. 0.98

02:45:42.000 I went from Redondo Beach to fucking Burbank after a podcast at five. 0.99

02:45:47.000 And I was like, oh, I should have just killed myself. 0.99

02:45:49.000 That would have been a more effective use of my time. 0.85

02:45:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:45:52.000 Locked up.

02:45:53.000 When the 405 or the 5 gets locked up, it's depressing.

02:45:56.000 Oh, it's hell.

02:45:57.000 That trip down to San Diego, if you want to do the La Jolla store.

02:46:00.000 You got to leave early.

02:46:00.000 You got to leave at noon.

02:46:02.000 Leave at noon.

02:46:03.000 Because that means you'll be down in San Diego right around the time rush hour starts.

02:46:07.000 Yeah.

02:46:09.000 Yeah. 0.54

02:46:09.000 Crazy. 0.54

02:46:10.000 It's, it's, but, yeah, it's just a cheaper place to, like, for a young comic who, like, if it's time to move to a place, it's like Austin does offer a cheaper quality for quality stage time as well.

02:46:21.000 It's also just a better vibe.

02:46:23.000 There's less tension.

02:46:24.000 There's less people.

02:46:26.000 Yes.

02:46:27.000 I feel like there are times where I would take a day off in LA and I feel like I'm falling behind because everyone around you is so frantic.

02:46:35.000 And here it's like, oh, I can breathe.

02:46:37.000 I can actually just enjoy this day off.

02:46:39.000 Which is important.

02:46:40.000 You got to have some kind of balance.

02:46:42.000 Yes.

02:46:43.000 You want to be a little bit frantic, but then you got to achieve some balance and let your brain sort of recalibrate, come back on.

02:46:51.000 Just get a new perspective.

02:46:52.000 Yeah, rest is so this grind culture.

02:46:56.000 For a period of same kind of thing.

02:46:58.000 I'll check the account. 0.96

02:47:00.000 Fucked up account.

02:47:02.000 Main proponent for the drive to recall Gavin Newsome. 0.69

02:47:04.000 California needs rebuild a better.

02:47:06.000 So it might be a fake person.

02:47:07.000 And then there's no evidence to like a link or where they got the information from.

02:47:13.000 Which is why I just checked first, but they just have a long story here.

02:47:16.000 It just says interview security guards.

02:47:18.000 So it could be total propaganda, right?

02:47:19.000 Yeah.

02:47:20.000 Yeah.

02:47:20.000 Maybe, you know, you could ask AI to make up a story.

02:47:22.000 What it would be a good story to put on Twitter.

02:47:25.000 Right.

02:47:25.000 And then, yeah, just tried to find it anywhere else.

02:47:28.000 Is it only from this one guy?

02:47:30.000 Yeah, this I was finding.

02:47:31.000 It was Caroline Levitt shared it.

02:47:34.000 This is the main account where she shared it from.

02:47:38.000 What you're doing and read this.

02:47:41.000 I googled that and she said that a ton of times.

02:47:44.000 How long has Carolyn Levitt been the press secretary this whole time? 0.84

02:47:47.000 Aren't they how quickly do they move past those?

02:47:50.000 They usually last about two years except for that last one.

02:47:52.000 Except for the last one, yeah.

02:47:53.000 I wonder if that's set a precedent.

02:47:55.000 She decided to hang in there to the bitter end.

02:47:57.000 They were trying to get rid of her.

02:47:58.000 St. Pierre, right? 1.00

02:47:58.000 She sucked. 1.00

02:47:59.000 Yeah, whatever her name was. 1.00

02:48:00.000 It wasn't St. Pierre.

02:48:01.000 It wasn't St. Pierre.

02:48:02.000 I thought it was something like that.

02:48:03.000 Karine Jean-Pierre.

02:48:05.000 It was something Pierre.

02:48:05.000 Okay.

02:48:06.000 It was something Pierre, yeah, yeah.

02:48:07.000 Bro, she was terrible.

02:48:08.000 She did it forever.

02:48:09.000 And again, the president is committed.

02:48:12.000 The president is like, she would do like the Obama thing with her fingers. 0.99

02:48:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:48:16.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.95

02:48:17.000 They just try. 1.00

02:48:18.000 She had a lie all the time.

02:48:20.000 That's her job. 0.99

02:48:21.000 Dead person. 0.95

02:48:22.000 Yeah.

02:48:23.000 Yeah, that's hard to do.

02:48:24.000 That's pretty like, you know, you have to keep juggling a lot to be like, oh, this dead person's still alive.

02:48:29.000 I thought he was going to die immediately after he left office.

02:48:32.000 I'm like, he's going to die soon. 0.68

02:48:33.000 Like real soon.

02:48:34.000 Yeah, it's kind of wild he's kept going.

02:48:36.000 But every now and then they'll trot him out and he'll start talking.

02:48:39.000 He'll be at an Eagles game.

02:48:40.000 He's like, yeah, you know what's going on.

02:48:42.000 And every now and then he'll talk.

02:48:44.000 They still let him talk.

02:48:46.000 Like, and there's been a few of those where he'll talk like, thank God you didn't win.

02:48:52.000 If you came back, you know, if they never replaced Kamala with you and you won or you and Kamala and you won and you're this guy now?

02:49:01.000 Well, yeah. 0.99

02:49:02.000 Well, he fucked them by not bowing out. 1.00

02:49:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:49:07.000 Yeah.

02:49:07.000 It's like, at least let him have a primary.

02:49:10.000 Because then it just became Kamala versus Trump and the whole like, oh, vote for me to fight fascism.

02:49:14.000 But no one voted for you in the first place.

02:49:16.000 The thing is, if they had a primary, who do you think would have been it?

02:49:19.000 They probably would have made her the Democrats would have decided on her anyway, I think. 0.71

02:49:25.000 Because it would have been too soon for Newsom to run.

02:49:26.000 He still has that stink of COVID on him.

02:49:28.000 So that's why he waited for this to go around.

02:49:30.000 Yeah, it's been enough.

02:49:31.000 People have forgotten COVID enough.

02:49:32.000 It's been more than half.

02:49:33.000 It's been half a decade since. 0.99

02:49:35.000 People's minds, like people's political memories are so short that, yeah, 2028, that's so far away from COVID that he can just be like, ah, I did fine or whatever the fuck. 0.97

02:49:47.000 Do you think so? 0.98

02:49:48.000 I think so.

02:49:50.000 Enough to run, enough to probably get the nomination.

02:49:52.000 Do you think he's going to get the nomination?

02:49:54.000 Who else?

02:49:55.000 Who else?

02:49:56.000 Someone else can rise over the next three years.

02:49:59.000 Someone else would have to.

02:50:00.000 If it had been an Obama thing, it would be like someone who would be rising in this upcoming midterm.

02:50:04.000 So if there's someone like that, maybe. 0.99

02:50:07.000 All it takes is someone who's a compelling speaker, who's not demonstrably full of shit. 0.99

02:50:12.000 Because the thing about him is he's so vulnerable to any kind of a debate. 0.99

02:50:15.000 When someone starts talking about the fraud and waste in California, how about the high-speed rail?

02:50:19.000 They spent billions of dollars. 0.99

02:50:20.000 It's fucking nothing. 0.99

02:50:22.000 Nothing. 0.99

02:50:23.000 Soon.

02:50:23.000 We're going to get it done soon.

02:50:25.000 Just so much fraud.

02:50:26.000 So much waste.

02:50:27.000 Yeah, but I don't think they have anything.

02:50:29.000 Because you can, right now, all you can run, you can just run on like, I'm not Trump.

02:50:34.000 And that'll be enough to get people being like, yeah, he's not Trump.

02:50:37.000 What about that Josh Shapiro guy?

02:50:38.000 The guy who's governor of Pennsylvania.

02:50:41.000 Maybe.

02:50:42.000 I don't know.

02:50:43.000 To me, it's just like a popularity contest, and he's making a lot of noise.

02:50:48.000 A lot of people upset at the Jews right now.

02:50:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:50:51.000 Yeah, that's a fair point.

02:50:52.000 Yeah.

02:50:52.000 That's a fair point.

02:50:53.000 Shapiro?

02:50:54.000 hmm, it just seems like, hmm.

02:50:56.000 Yeah.

02:50:57.000 That's a good point.

02:50:58.000 It just seems like he's the one making the most noise.

02:51:01.000 And we're getting towards crunch time.

02:51:04.000 Not really, but like it's the closer we get to the midterms and there's no other big voice.

02:51:09.000 It makes me feel like it's going to be him.

02:51:12.000 Well, clearly he wants to do it.

02:51:14.000 He definitely wants to do it.

02:51:16.000 And he might just be powerful politically enough to win that nomination. 0.99

02:51:19.000 That guy fucks up San Francisco, fucks up California, and then goes on to fuck up the whole country. 0.99

02:51:25.000 Oh, it's very possible. 0.99

02:51:27.000 Maybe not very possible, but I think it's an outcome.

02:51:32.000 It's an outcome.

02:51:32.000 definitely running it's gonna be it's i don't know what that ticket's gonna be but They're going to make us all trans.

02:51:39.000 Yeah, it's going to be like a Newsome Crockett.

02:51:41.000 That's my early call of what they're going to try to do. 1.00

02:51:43.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:51:45.000 Are you kidding? 1.00

02:51:45.000 Yeah, I think so. 1.00

02:51:47.000 Yeah.

02:51:47.000 I think that's who they are.

02:51:49.000 She's very reasonable.

02:51:50.000 AOC.

02:51:51.000 Maybe AOC.

02:51:52.000 I think AOC is more reasonable.

02:51:54.000 AOC is much more reasonable for sure.

02:51:56.000 You ever see when Crockett and Marjorie Taylor Greene start going back and forth with each other, insulting each other and yelling at each other?

02:52:02.000 No, that's.

02:52:03.000 Oh, yeah, I did.

02:52:04.000 I didn't see that.

02:52:04.000 That's a very fun moment.

02:52:09.000 Nobody wants to be a representative.

02:52:11.000 That's the thing.

02:52:11.000 It's like all these successful people and academics.

02:52:15.000 They don't want to do that.

02:52:16.000 No, it's all like lawyers and like creeps.

02:52:20.000 Yeah, that's the only.

02:52:21.000 Well, it's like, it's one of those things where you're right.

02:52:24.000 The person who wants to do it probably isn't, or person who should do it probably isn't going to want to do it.

02:52:28.000 100%.

02:52:28.000 Because you do have to make decisions that negatively affect millions of people's lives sometimes.

02:52:33.000 And you got to grease the pockets of your donors.

02:52:35.000 Yeah.

02:52:36.000 And to be like a regular guy and want to do that was probably would tear you apart to be like, ah, here's a decision that'll kill people. 0.99

02:52:45.000 You got to be kind of a sociopath. 0.98

02:52:47.000 What's really fucked is how much of an impact people like us have on elections now. 1.00

02:52:51.000 That's what's nuts. 0.96

02:52:52.000 Like podcasters have a big impact on elections now.

02:52:56.000 That's how it's really weird.

02:52:57.000 That's how much the mainstream media has kind of lost its lead.

02:53:00.000 Drop the ball.

02:53:01.000 Dropped the ball hardcore.

02:53:03.000 Well, it's just by being unreliable, like being people that you can't trust.

02:53:07.000 And uncensored conversation is like people are going to trust them more because this is how people talk to their friends more often than not.

02:53:14.000 Than like, oh, I can't say this because this sponsor is going to be mad at me.

02:53:17.000 Right.

02:53:18.000 You know?

02:53:18.000 Like, this is just a much more accessible way of finding out people's real thoughts.

02:53:23.000 And a lot of it is just how we talk.

02:53:25.000 I mean, there's been so many times we've been in the green room that totally could have been a podcast.

02:53:31.000 Right.

02:53:31.000 Just put a camera on it, live in the green room.

02:53:34.000 It would fuck up the vibe.

02:53:35.000 But it'll be a great podcast.

02:53:36.000 Yeah, it would.

02:53:37.000 It would fuck up the vibe.

02:53:38.000 Yeah, it would lose that quality that would make it a good podcast if we were trying to actually podcast.

02:53:43.000 Yeah, definitely.

02:53:44.000 Definitely.

02:53:45.000 All right, brother.

02:53:46.000 Well, I'll see you tonight.

02:53:47.000 I'll see you tonight.

02:53:48.000 And tell everybody your special.

02:53:49.000 It's out.

02:53:49.000 It's on YouTube.

02:53:50.000 It's on YouTube.

02:53:51.000 It's called Too Soon.

02:53:52.000 Check it out.

02:53:53.000 I'm very proud of this material.

02:53:55.000 It's great material, man.

02:53:56.000 And you've been killing it.

02:53:57.000 You've been killing it at the club.

02:53:58.000 And the new stuff's fantastic, too.

02:53:59.000 Thank you.

02:53:59.000 And yeah, go to a song.

02:54:01.000 Look at that hair.

02:54:03.000 Every time I've been on here, I've had different hair.

02:54:05.000 Today I went cornrows.

02:54:08.000 Yeah.

02:54:08.000 You've had the cornrows for a while now, right?

02:54:10.000 Just a week or so.

02:54:11.000 I did it for a sketch, and then I was like, I kind of like this.

02:54:15.000 Yeah, it's crazy for this guy, this hairline to have cornrows.

02:54:18.000 All right, my brother.

02:54:19.000 Appreciate you.

02:54:19.000 See you tonight.

02:54:20.000 See you tonight.

The Joe Rogan Experience - January 22, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2442 - Ehsan Ahmad

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