The Joe Rogan Experience - January 23, 2026


Joe Rogan Experience #2443 - Filippo Biondi


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In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe interviews the man at the head of the research group that is looking at the structures that are underneath the top of the pyramid. Dr. Corrado Malanga, who is a professor of chemistry at the University of Pisa, joins us to talk about his research and how it has changed the way we see the world.

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00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan.
00:00:05.000 Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan.
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00:00:09.000 All day!
00:00:12.000 All right, sir.
00:00:13.000 Fine, thank you.
00:00:14.000 Thank you very much for being here.
00:00:15.000 I'm really excited to talk to you.
00:00:17.000 Obviously, there's been an amazing amount of interest and controversy because of your work.
00:00:23.000 We should explain to everybody right off the bat what this is about.
00:00:27.000 You are the man that was at the head of this research that is looking at structures that are underneath the bottom of the pyramid.
00:00:39.000 And incredibly controversial, very fascinating.
00:00:43.000 And if it's accurate, it essentially rewrites all of human history.
00:00:46.000 Yes.
00:00:47.000 Thank you for this invitation.
00:00:49.000 And yes, the group is composed by Corrado Malanga, which is the head of the group and the dean, a professor of chemistry at the University of Pisa.
00:01:02.000 Can you explain your background, please, so people would understand?
00:01:05.000 Yes, my background is this.
00:01:07.000 I am a telecommunication engineering.
00:01:09.000 I graduate at the university.
00:01:11.000 What is that word again?
00:01:12.000 Say it again?
00:01:12.000 Telecommunication engineer.
00:01:13.000 Telecommunications engineer.
00:01:15.000 Okay.
00:01:16.000 Your English is excellent, but the Italian accent, although fabulous, sometimes it's difficult to translate.
00:01:22.000 Thank you very much, Joe.
00:01:24.000 I'm sorry, yes, that I'm not the mother tongue of English.
00:01:27.000 It's still much better than my Italian. 0.84
00:01:29.000 Okay, thank you.
00:01:33.000 Yes, I graduated myself at the University of Lecce, south of Italy.
00:01:38.000 Very nice university.
00:01:40.000 And it has the name of a famous Mathematic Italian, which is Eggno de Giorgi.
00:01:53.000 Englo de Giorgi was living in the era than John Nash was living also.
00:02:03.000 And they were one against the other, and they were both studying the 19 Hilbert problem.
00:02:14.000 And Egno de Giorgi solved this problem one week before John Nash.
00:02:21.000 Ah, interesting.
00:02:22.000 John Nash, who from the famous movie A Brilliant Mind with Russell Crowe.
00:02:26.000 Yes.
00:02:27.000 So then I performed my PhD at La Sapienza in Rome and now I'm here.
00:02:35.000 And how did you get involved in this discovery?
00:02:39.000 Yes.
00:02:41.000 I worked on radar and synthetic radar for a lot of time.
00:02:48.000 For the Italian military.
00:02:50.000 Some work.
00:02:51.000 Yes, which you can't really talk about.
00:02:53.000 No.
00:02:54.000 Right.
00:02:56.000 And I was involved in some research where together with the Italian Research Council of Bari, always south of Italy, we were testing some special processing that were able to perform something special.
00:03:20.000 And so this is.
00:03:22.000 So this top secret research that you work on for the Italian government led you to try this stuff out, try this technology out.
00:03:32.000 And this is satellite-based technology, correct?
00:03:34.000 And it's radio tomography?
00:03:34.000 Yes.
00:03:37.000 Yes, it is something, in my personal opinion, very simple.
00:03:42.000 The radar is installed on board on the satellite.
00:03:45.000 The satellite flies in the space at a distance of 600 kilometers at seven kilometers per second in velocity.
00:03:57.000 So while it flies along the orbit, it is able to catch snapshots of the Earth.
00:04:06.000 The snapshots have to be focused.
00:04:09.000 And this focusing procedure, let's say it in the Azimuth, I take it easy, in the Azimuth direction, is done by sound, by the processing of sound, because it is involved at the so-called Doppler frequency.
00:04:24.000 You know, Joe, when you hear noises that are approaching to you, this noise will rise the frequency because the target has a velocity, a positive velocity, with respect to you.
00:04:38.000 And so the frequency is rised up.
00:04:41.000 And this procedure allows us to estimate or to grab, let's say, the vibration information that is always present at the surface of the Earth in terms of a vanishing waves that are present on the surface of the earth.
00:04:59.000 So this vibration, which is mechanical vibration, carries inside of this the information that is located underground.
00:05:12.000 And so we did this.
00:05:14.000 And was it a specific idea, was it the idea specifically to look under the pyramids or was it something that was discovered accidentally?
00:05:23.000 Okay, yes.
00:05:25.000 Once we discovered this method, it was a coincidence that I knew Corrado Malanga.
00:05:34.000 And at that time, we are in 2018.
00:05:40.000 He was studying the pyramids.
00:05:42.000 And so we were talking about something that if there were some methods able to scan inside the pyramids because he needed some information to conclude the research that he was doing.
00:06:00.000 And so I proposed him to use my technique and we started to work together.
00:06:07.000 And so we focused in that time on the pyramids.
00:06:11.000 And when was this, when was the first scans?
00:06:17.000 Yes, in 2019.
00:06:19.000 In 2019.
00:06:20.000 And when you got the data back, did you immediately get the data that you're showing today, where you see the columns with the coils around it?
00:06:28.000 Okay.
00:06:30.000 Let's say that this research can be divided by two.
00:06:34.000 The first one, 1.0, we were concentrating research on the Khnum Kufu pyramid, the Chaops pyramid, to watch inside the pyramid.
00:06:45.000 And so we have detailed, tailored our processing to watch only inside the pyramids, because that pyramid, only one pyramid, because we were doing that kind of research.
00:07:00.000 Then once we discovered things in 2020, we published the peer-review paper and we gave public the results that we found inside the Khnum Kufu pyramid, we decided to expand our research in all the GISA plateau.
00:07:22.000 Can I summarize when you looked inside?
00:07:25.000 So we know quite a bit about the Khufu pyramid and what the chambers are inside of it.
00:07:29.000 Did this technology accurately describe the pyramid itself and the insides of it, the chambers that we know exist?
00:07:36.000 Absolutely, yes.
00:07:38.000 Because we have detected this multi-layer structure that is inside the Khnum Kufu pyramid, the so-called Z. 0.57
00:07:45.000 We have discovered it very well from the space and it is located inside the pyramid.
00:07:53.000 And also we discovered a new, no, we discovered it, we gave an image also of the other known structures like the Grand Gallery, the Grand Gallery, and then also the Queen's chamber and the King's chamber also.
00:08:16.000 And accurate in terms of size and dimension.
00:08:20.000 And also position and location.
00:08:22.000 Okay.
00:08:23.000 So when did you decide to focus below the pyramid?
00:08:27.000 Yes.
00:08:28.000 We decided to focus below the pyramid because our intention was to expand our research.
00:08:39.000 And then also thanks to the third component of the research group, which is Armando May, he suggests us to expand our research and scan all the GISO plateau.
00:08:52.000 And so what date was it that you discovered these immense columns with the coils around it and all those structures that are underneath the pyramid?
00:09:01.000 Yes.
00:09:02.000 In the second part of our research, we started focusing our scans on the Kerfer pyramid and like Kunum Kufu.
00:09:13.000 And then we adjust our algorithms to go deeper.
00:09:18.000 And so when we did this, very nice things began to appear on our results.
00:09:30.000 What did you feel when you first saw those images that do appear to be immense columns?
00:09:38.000 I believe the diameter is 20 meters.
00:09:42.000 20 meters.
00:09:43.000 So they're huge, enormous columns.
00:09:45.000 Yes.
00:09:46.000 What went through your mind?
00:09:48.000 Skepticism.
00:09:50.000 Skepticism.
00:09:51.000 I told also Corrado was with me because we had those results in our desk without disclosure or anything for six months.
00:10:08.000 Because my opinion was that was not real.
00:10:16.000 I was thinking that maybe it was noise or some artifacts due by our processing procedures.
00:10:27.000 Did give you pause at all that they were so uniform, that these columns were in very specific places and that they lined up, there was a uniform gap in between them?
00:10:39.000 And why we disclosure this?
00:10:39.000 Yes.
00:10:42.000 Because we started to use also other satellites.
00:10:46.000 And once we at the beginning we were using only the Italian satellite system that it is Cosmos Cimed and Cosmos Cymed second generation.
00:10:57.000 It's very good, very precise.
00:10:59.000 But we wanted to shift our research using also other satellites.
00:11:06.000 Because, Joe, in research, when we have diversity, diversity is a good thing, because it confirms other things that we were searching.
00:11:18.000 We were searching confirmation.
00:11:21.000 So once we had the same results, while we were using American satellites called the Capella Space and also other satellites, having always the same results, we decided to disclose.
00:11:36.000 How many different scans have been done on this area?
00:11:40.000 Two or three hundred to more than two hundred.
00:11:43.000 More than two hundred.
00:11:44.000 And all with uniform results?
00:11:46.000 Yes.
00:11:47.000 Wow.
00:11:48.000 Yes.
00:11:49.000 There's a lot of resistance to this, and it's from the usual characters, and it's from people that I would characterize as gatekeepers of archaeological information.
00:12:02.000 And unfortunately, they are not willing to approach this with an open mind.
00:12:09.000 And you see this skepticism that just seems to me to be confirmation bias.
00:12:14.000 They want this to not be true, regardless of the sheer number of scans and the uniformity of the results of these scans.
00:12:23.000 And also the fact that this stuff has been proven to work on other things.
00:12:28.000 Like, didn't you guys use this exact technology to get the exact dimensions of a particle collider that you have?
00:12:36.000 Yes, you have a particle collider where I have born in L'Aquila, which is located in the center of Italy, at the center of Italy.
00:12:36.000 Yes.
00:12:46.000 There is a huge mountain called Gran Sasso, the Gran Sasso d'Italia, which has a maximum altitude of about 3,000 meters for being precise to 993 meters.
00:13:04.000 And so there is a tunnel, very, very long tunnel, about 11, 12 kilometers.
00:13:14.000 And in the core of this mountain, there is a particle collider.
00:13:17.000 There is a laboratory, let's say, like that.
00:13:20.000 And this technology got the exact dimensions of this particle collider that's deep in this mountain.
00:13:27.000 Yes.
00:13:28.000 At 1.4 kilometers with respect to the top.
00:13:33.000 Wow.
00:13:34.000 So we know it's accurate.
00:13:34.000 Okay.
00:13:36.000 We know it works.
00:13:37.000 What do you think it is?
00:13:38.000 I mean, other than what I said, that it's gatekeepers of archaeological information.
00:13:43.000 It's people that don't want to admit that there's perhaps quite a bit bigger mystery than just the pyramids themselves.
00:13:52.000 What do you think it is that is causing this resistance?
00:13:56.000 Personally, it's true.
00:13:58.000 We found a lot of resistance.
00:13:59.000 Yes, it's true.
00:14:00.000 But personally, I don't know why.
00:14:03.000 I can say something regarding my personal opinion.
00:14:11.000 Joe, it is something that maybe is too big, too huge to be disclosured like that today.
00:14:19.000 I don't know why.
00:14:20.000 It's confusing to people because it's essentially paradigm shattering.
00:14:26.000 Because the pyramids themselves are absolutely spectacular.
00:14:29.000 The Great Pyramid is 2,300,000 stones.
00:14:33.000 The alignment is to perfect true north, south, east, and west.
00:14:38.000 It's a really incredible accomplishment, whoever built it and when they built it.
00:14:42.000 It's just undeniably fascinating that this was done at the very least 2,500 BC, probably even older than that.
00:14:53.000 We really don't know.
00:14:55.000 But that alone is spectacular.
00:14:58.000 But then when you add the findings that you have, it just makes everybody go, we don't know anything.
00:15:04.000 We really don't.
00:15:06.000 We know that these things exist, but their purpose has always been speculative.
00:15:11.000 The speculation was that it is some sort of a tomb.
00:15:15.000 But that doesn't make any sense because there's no hieroglyphs inside of it.
00:15:19.000 It doesn't seem like a tomb.
00:15:20.000 It doesn't look like a tomb.
00:15:21.000 And I'm sure you're aware of Christopher Dunn's work.
00:15:24.000 Yes.
00:15:24.000 Yes.
00:15:25.000 Which, you know, he's an engineer, and he said it appears that this thing is some sort of a mechanical thing and that it's probably designed to generate some kind of power.
00:15:34.000 Yeah.
00:15:35.000 Yes, in this context, I have spoke a lot with Christopher Dunn.
00:15:41.000 And I like a lot his theory.
00:15:47.000 And it it makes sense.
00:15:50.000 And so this discoveries matches a lot with his and also to other scientists that make recast the effective purpose of the pyramid not to be tombs.
00:16:08.000 Today we are sure.
00:16:09.000 We are sure of one thing, that the pyramids are not tombs.
00:16:13.000 They're not tombs.
00:16:14.000 And what is truly spectacular is that if this data is accurate, those immense structures that have baffled mankind forever are just the tip of the iceberg.
00:16:25.000 Yes.
00:16:26.000 That's just the top.
00:16:27.000 And underneath it, you have these immense structures that we have not yet fully explored, but you have data that shows that let's look at the images.
00:16:27.000 Yes.
00:16:38.000 Let's pull up some of the images so people can see what we're talking about.
00:16:42.000 Because once you see it, your mind just goes, okay, what are we even talking about?
00:16:46.000 Like, what was this civilization?
00:16:50.000 When did it exist?
00:16:52.000 And what kind of technology would allow them to not just construct the pyramids, which is absolutely baffling.
00:16:59.000 But if this structure that is underneath the pyramids is accurately described by your work, we're looking at something that is going to have to change our entire perspective on the history of humanity.
00:17:11.000 Yes, I agree with you, Joe, because what we found, it is something that has been confirmed by our measurements.
00:17:20.000 And at the moment, I suppose that our measurements are the only data that we have, because there aren't other data.
00:17:30.000 So what we are observing, we are observing principally vertical structure.
00:17:38.000 This vertical structure has a pattern, a regular pattern, and this regular pattern is constituted by a so-called spiral nature.
00:17:51.000 I found this.
00:17:52.000 Okay, so what are we looking at here?
00:17:55.000 These are the CAFRA pyramid.
00:18:01.000 And you see, Joe, at the top of the tomography, the tomography is on the X, so the horizontal dimension, we have the space.
00:18:11.000 Okay?
00:18:11.000 Space, just the range.
00:18:14.000 And on the vertical, we have the depth.
00:18:18.000 On the top, we have the pyramid, you see.
00:18:24.000 You see the pyramid on the top.
00:18:26.000 And while you go down, you are observing the structures that are going down.
00:18:32.000 And look, you have the spiral nature of the structures.
00:18:38.000 Okay, this is not the clearest image that I've seen.
00:18:41.000 So what are let me see some other images?
00:18:46.000 Because this is just one, right?
00:18:48.000 I know that's what this is from his presentation, and I didn't know where to get the best image from it.
00:18:53.000 Packed up one.
00:18:55.000 Go again.
00:18:58.000 We have a lot of images here that is recasting all the research that we have done together.
00:19:07.000 So the images that are going around online that people have seen are these 3D replicates.
00:19:14.000 Pull up some more of those.
00:19:15.000 I wasn't getting them off the web off the street.
00:19:16.000 Okay.
00:19:17.000 Some of the images online are recreations of what is observed and what you believe this could look like underneath, correct?
00:19:28.000 We have performed measurements and they are sound measurements that are that has been picked up from the surface of the earth by satellites.
00:19:39.000 So they are very precise and they are coherent.
00:19:42.000 Coherent it means that contains a lot of information.
00:19:46.000 So it is characterized to have high entropy.
00:19:51.000 And so when we perform the so-called tomographic inversion, we can see what there is underneath.
00:19:59.000 Okay.
00:20:00.000 So this is a recreation of what you believe it looks like.
00:20:06.000 And how are you getting that from the image that's below that?
00:20:06.000 Yes.
00:20:10.000 Okay.
00:20:11.000 So the image is just one aspect of the data, correct?
00:20:14.000 Yes.
00:20:16.000 The imaging?
00:20:17.000 This, this faulty colored image.
00:20:20.000 Okay, here we are observing inside the CAFRA pyramid, and inside the CAFRI pyramid, we are observing those structures there.
00:20:31.000 Those are inside the CAFRA pyramid.
00:20:36.000 And the image above is an artist's recreation of what you think it looks like.
00:20:42.000 Now, how did you make that determination that that's what it looks like?
00:20:45.000 Okay.
00:20:49.000 The 3D model has been retrieved, not observing just only one result, but observing a lot of results.
00:21:01.000 So putting on a table all the results that we have, we were able to retrive, so to facilitate people to read our measurements.
00:21:12.000 So observing the results, we were able to determine the spirals and the structures that are located, starting from the base of the CAFRA pyramid going down.
00:21:26.000 I've seen other images of the scans that are more convincing than the one that's below.
00:21:30.000 So let's see if we can find some of those.
00:21:34.000 What else do you have here?
00:21:36.000 Yes, these are all images that are related to the first.
00:21:41.000 So this is just an article that's in the news.
00:21:43.000 Okay.
00:21:44.000 I mean, I even went here.
00:21:50.000 What is, like, where's a good place to get the best versions of these images?
00:21:55.000 Like that right there.
00:21:56.000 Okay.
00:21:57.000 It's just kind of.
00:21:58.000 Okay, what is this?
00:21:59.000 Okay.
00:22:00.000 Here we are watching a wide area of our tomographies.
00:22:05.000 Look, and we see the structures that are going down.
00:22:07.000 Yes, this is much clearer.
00:22:09.000 Yes.
00:22:10.000 Okay.
00:22:11.000 And below the structure, at the end of the structures, there are huge chambers, but they are really huge, approximately having a width and a length and a height of 80 meters.
00:22:28.000 So 80-meter structures that are below all this.
00:22:32.000 So almost the size of a football field below all this, that is some sort of a chamber.
00:22:32.000 Yes.
00:22:38.000 Yeah.
00:22:39.000 And see if you can find some other images, Jamie.
00:22:43.000 So the coils, how did you determine that there were coils?
00:22:50.000 Is it just because of the gaps that you see in the imagery?
00:22:53.000 Whether they come in this uniform pattern that it's I have two or three slides on my presentation where we find the coils.
00:23:04.000 Okay, let's see if we can find those slides.
00:23:07.000 Do you know which slide, maybe?
00:23:08.000 If you go down, please.
00:23:10.000 Yeah, wait a minute.
00:23:13.000 Okay.
00:23:14.000 Okay, here.
00:23:15.000 Okay, here we can observe a regular pattern, so not coils.
00:23:22.000 And we go down, please.
00:23:25.000 Okay, regular pattern, and the coils are beginning to be seen there on the third image.
00:23:33.000 Here, regular pattern, go down, please.
00:23:37.000 And here, this is, in my personal opinion, the fourth image from the left to the right, the fifth image, one, two, three, four, the fourth image, I'm sorry, where you have a core at the center of the coil, at the center of the structure,
00:24:03.000 and then we have something that spirals down.
00:24:09.000 So, has anybody speculated about what this could possibly be, like what these coils are?
00:24:15.000 Yes, I spoke with two independent, with let's say with some independent researchers, and especially with Christopher Nann.
00:24:29.000 And also, I spoke also with Jeffrey that is considering also the GISA power plan like chemical reactors or something like that.
00:24:45.000 So, we have on one side scientists that say, okay, can be something related to electricity, or we have something related to chemicals or other things.
00:25:01.000 In my personal opinion, me, I can see anything, I can say anything, because I just measured what there is there.
00:25:11.000 So, it is not my, how you say, my job to do this.
00:25:15.000 My job is, okay, here we have the measurements, and now we have to see what there is inside.
00:25:22.000 In my personal opinion, this is the right time to say, okay, let's go there and see what there is.
00:25:33.000 Let's start digging.
00:25:34.000 Yes.
00:25:35.000 Yeah, pull up some more images, please, Jamie.
00:25:38.000 Yes, this is very important.
00:25:40.000 If you want, I can tell you about this.
00:25:43.000 Okay, because it is a very important project, research project that I am working now, and it is something that if it could be possible, we can go there and without digging anything, we can go below.
00:26:03.000 Why?
00:26:04.000 Because belonging between the Sphinx and the CAFRA pyramid, there are some shafts.
00:26:12.000 And there are the photos of the shafts where we can go in situ and we can physically go there and see and watch those shafts.
00:26:25.000 Currently, the shafts are blocked by debris.
00:26:31.000 And there is also rubbish inside.
00:26:33.000 So I performed a lot of scans at those shafts.
00:26:41.000 And you see, Joe, the shafts go down, down, down, down, and they reach chambers that are below.
00:26:50.000 And that is the Doppler tomography readings.
00:26:53.000 Yes.
00:26:53.000 So these shafts go down.
00:26:55.000 How far do they go down?
00:26:56.000 Yes, they go down approximately 600 meters.
00:27:00.000 600 meters.
00:27:02.000 Wow.
00:27:02.000 Yes.
00:27:03.000 So 600 meters down, and then they reach a chamber.
00:27:06.000 Yes.
00:27:07.000 What is the conventional explanation for these shafts?
00:27:10.000 Is there one?
00:27:12.000 Like, what is current archaeologists, what is academia, what do they think these things are?
00:27:17.000 Leave that right there for a second.
00:27:18.000 Yes, this is the complete 3D model that me and Corrado did.
00:27:23.000 And so to observe all the structures that we have found, that we found, Evaluating the tomographies that we have done on the GISA Plateau.
00:27:40.000 So it's not just under the Great Pyramid, it's under all three pyramids.
00:27:44.000 And also the Sphinx.
00:27:45.000 And also the Sphinx.
00:27:46.000 Yes.
00:27:47.000 And they all seem to go.
00:27:49.000 Do they go down to a uniform depth?
00:27:52.000 We found at the moment the same depth.
00:27:56.000 Yes.
00:27:57.000 And they all have chambers at the bottom.
00:28:00.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:28:01.000 Yes.
00:28:02.000 And that's in my personal opinion, the next thing that we are dealing with.
00:28:08.000 At the end of the structures of these tubes that are going down, there are huge chambers.
00:28:18.000 How huge?
00:28:19.000 As I told you before, 80 meters times 80 meters and times 80 meters of height.
00:28:26.000 And that's uniform underneath all of the pyramids, the same dimensions?
00:28:29.000 Yes.
00:28:30.000 Wow.
00:28:31.000 When you look at it like this, when you see your 3D recreation of the site, it's stunning.
00:28:38.000 Because it just makes you think, what is this?
00:28:44.000 I mean, I can understand the skepticism and I can understand the resistance to this that modern academics have.
00:28:51.000 Because this throws a giant monkey wrench into everything.
00:28:56.000 This makes everything we know about that area thrown into question.
00:29:03.000 Because if this is true, like I said, this rewrites history.
00:29:08.000 Because you're dealing with an advanced civilization that is demonstrably more advanced than us.
00:29:16.000 Yes, because they were able to build very precise things, but not at the surface of the earth below.
00:29:28.000 Well, they even built a lot of precise things that confuse us.
00:29:32.000 Like, one of the things that Christopher Dunn gave me is this.
00:29:35.000 It's the recreation of the vase of one of the many vases that they have that is accurate in its way it was made down to God, what was the number?
00:29:50.000 A thousandth of a human hair or something crazy like that?
00:29:53.000 Like much less than a human hair in the diameter, in the uniformity of it, in the fact that it was carved out of this incredibly hard stone at a time where there was no metal alloys.
00:30:06.000 They supposedly had copper tools.
00:30:08.000 No one understands it.
00:30:10.000 No one knows how they did it.
00:30:11.000 And it has handles on it, so it couldn't have even been turned on a lathe.
00:30:15.000 Yes, and also if we go inside the pyramids, inside and also outside the pyramids, we can observe that the measurements are very precise.
00:30:27.000 The chambers are constituted by flat walls.
00:30:32.000 We don't have inscriptions.
00:30:35.000 And the dimensions are all related to the constants, to the major constants of the universe.
00:30:42.000 They're all aligned to the constellations.
00:30:42.000 Right.
00:30:44.000 There's a lot of very strange calculations that they were able to make, like pathways where the sun during the solar equinox passes right through.
00:30:55.000 It's a fascinating place.
00:30:57.000 Yes.
00:30:58.000 When you started acquiring this data and you started accumulating it and then started going over it with experts, what did that feel like to you when you're realizing, oh, this is real?
00:31:13.000 Yes.
00:31:15.000 It was something that was very nice for me because when we dis the thing was, I Was saying always to Gorrado Gorado, shall we disclose this or not?
00:31:36.000 I think for now not.
00:31:38.000 For now not, but then the results were always the same.
00:31:42.000 So we decided to disclose this discussion.
00:31:45.000 How long did you sit on it before you decided to disclose it?
00:31:48.000 One year.
00:31:49.000 So for that one year, how conflicted were you?
00:31:49.000 One year.
00:31:51.000 You must have been walking around like, I have the biggest secret on earth.
00:31:54.000 Yes.
00:31:56.000 How weird was that?
00:32:00.000 Only two person knew this.
00:32:02.000 That's crazy.
00:32:04.000 That's crazy.
00:32:05.000 Two people having one of the biggest secrets on earth.
00:32:10.000 That's backed by data.
00:32:11.000 I mean, it's not even like, you know, someone told you something.
00:32:15.000 Like, you have extraordinary data due to fascinating modern technology that indicates that there's these paradigm-shifting structures.
00:32:25.000 Yeah.
00:32:26.000 And I tell you, Joe, I would like to go there and see what there is in person.
00:32:36.000 Yes.
00:32:36.000 Because it's now time, I think.
00:32:39.000 Is there resistance from Egypt and the people that are in control of that area, or are they fascinated by it?
00:32:46.000 I tell you, Joe, I didn't find a lot of resistance.
00:32:51.000 I found a lot of resistance in the internet.
00:32:54.000 Yes.
00:32:55.000 A lot of the banking, a lot of people that know it's not true, it's not true.
00:33:00.000 A lot of people that were continuing to say, no, radar can penetrate the earth for one kilometer.
00:33:09.000 And they didn't know, or they purposely not saying this, that we are not penetrating anything, because we are just grabbing the entropy that is on the surface of the earth.
00:33:22.000 And with that information, we are retrieving tomographies.
00:33:26.000 It's something new that I invented, but it works because we have benchmarks that demonstrate the effectiveness of the method.
00:33:34.000 And this is 100%.
00:33:37.000 And there's also been some criticism that the patents have expired, but that's because you have new patents on better stuff.
00:33:44.000 Now, Joe, I am under NDA.
00:33:44.000 Yes.
00:33:47.000 So we just might think I can say something about the second patent because just yesterday we filed the patent in USA.
00:33:56.000 Nice.
00:33:56.000 Yes.
00:33:57.000 Wow.
00:33:59.000 Have any academics reached out to you in support that are interested in this and would like to explore this further?
00:34:06.000 Yes.
00:34:06.000 Yes.
00:34:09.000 I tell you this.
00:34:10.000 There are companies related to mining and crude oil extraction and then also water.
00:34:21.000 Joe, today we are leaving a particular time because water is very important.
00:34:28.000 We are in a so-called water emergency in all the world.
00:34:32.000 So for me, the first thing that we have to do is to scan the earth and to fetch, to find, to try and find other, let's say, opportunity to extract not salty water, because it's very important.
00:34:51.000 So you'll be using this technology for that as well.
00:34:53.000 For now, not, but I'm thinking to do it.
00:34:56.000 Well, it makes sense.
00:34:56.000 I mean, if it can detect this, it should be able to detect that as well.
00:35:00.000 And that would be, and also if it's accurate, that will also help garner support for this exploration of whatever is under there.
00:35:09.000 Yeah.
00:35:10.000 And so we are receiving a lot of calls from companies that want to work with me.
00:35:20.000 And so let's see what we can do.
00:35:22.000 And so this is all companies that have reached out after you release the results underneath the pyramids?
00:35:29.000 Most of them are calling me recently.
00:35:32.000 Right.
00:35:32.000 So they've heard about it.
00:35:34.000 Relatively recently, yes.
00:35:35.000 Well, that's capitalism, right?
00:35:36.000 They say, oh, we can make money off of this.
00:35:38.000 Yeah, yes.
00:35:39.000 Yeah.
00:35:40.000 That's good.
00:35:40.000 That gets people interested.
00:35:42.000 It gets people involved in this.
00:35:43.000 And so we have also a philanthropic project.
00:35:47.000 We are opening a foundation in Malta.
00:35:53.000 We are realizing it in two weeks.
00:35:57.000 And we will have a foundation in Malta.
00:36:00.000 And with that foundation, we can operate also philanthropically for the JISA Plateau and other ancient megalithics that are located in all the world.
00:36:12.000 We have a plan to scan everything.
00:36:14.000 What is next?
00:36:14.000 Really?
00:36:17.000 Maybe we can see Pumapunku or other sites.
00:36:22.000 Yeah.
00:36:24.000 GoBekli-Tepe.
00:36:24.000 Yeah.
00:36:25.000 GoBekli-Tepe, yes.
00:36:27.000 Yeah.
00:36:27.000 Have you looked at the labyrinths underneath the ones that were described by Herodotus that Ben Van Kirkwick has been talking about and his Uncharted X channel, where there is a huge atrium with a 40-meter metallic object that's a shape of a tic-tac and a map?
00:36:45.000 Yes, they asked me to do it, and we will do it.
00:36:49.000 Yeah, you have to do that.
00:36:51.000 I tell you, Joe, the processing is very nice, but requests a lot of calculations.
00:36:57.000 So it is time-consuming.
00:36:59.000 So at the moment, we have some computers that are dedicated on JITSA and other projects that we are doing.
00:37:09.000 And in the future, maybe we will have other machines that can work to do other things.
00:37:18.000 But we will do it.
00:37:19.000 We need time, but we will do it.
00:37:22.000 Now, are you absolutely convinced that this data is accurate, or have any of the criticisms of any of the people that are trying to debunk it, has any of that resonated with you and rang true?
00:37:34.000 Is there any validity to any of the criticisms?
00:37:38.000 Radar is only precise.
00:37:41.000 The nice thing that has radar is the precision.
00:37:46.000 And especially from space.
00:37:47.000 Because space is a very silent environment.
00:37:51.000 You don't have noise, something.
00:37:53.000 The platform is very stable.
00:37:56.000 So when you transmit electromagnetic waves, they return back with absolute precision.
00:38:03.000 And it's recreated over and over again in these 200-plus scans that you've done with various different satellites, correct?
00:38:10.000 Not just one, so that one could have errors.
00:38:13.000 So you're convinced.
00:38:14.000 I'm convinced.
00:38:15.000 100%, Lios.
00:38:16.000 Wow.
00:38:18.000 I invented the method.
00:38:20.000 Yes, I know.
00:38:21.000 But I tell you that I am happy if somebody can replicate things.
00:38:27.000 So if other research groups can replicate the things that I'm showing, I am happy.
00:38:34.000 Well, you got there first.
00:38:36.000 So no matter what.
00:38:39.000 I mean, if this is correct, you will go down in history as one of the most important figures in archaeology.
00:38:46.000 Because if you are— Thank you, Joe.
00:38:49.000 You're welcome, but it's just fact.
00:38:51.000 If what you're saying is true, we're just recently discovering this in the 21st century.
00:38:56.000 I mean, that's absolutely mind-bending.
00:39:00.000 Thank you for this.
00:39:02.000 Yes, I am happy for being in this.
00:39:08.000 But not only me, other people helping me to do my work.
00:39:13.000 Yes.
00:39:14.000 Oh, sure.
00:39:15.000 Of course.
00:39:15.000 A lot of people.
00:39:16.000 And in principle, my family.
00:39:17.000 Yeah.
00:39:19.000 These structures and this whole area, if this turns out to be something that you don't find just at the Giza Plateau, but around other parts of Egypt, I mean, there's always been a lot of speculation as to whether or not a civilization existed in sub-Saharan Africa, an advanced civilization that are now sand.
00:39:41.000 You could probably do that same sort of research there as well.
00:39:44.000 Yes, I agree with this, and we will do it.
00:39:47.000 Yes.
00:39:48.000 Wow.
00:39:50.000 What is life like for you now having this exposed and now having this on the internet and all the speculation and all this excitement?
00:39:59.000 What has that been like for you?
00:40:00.000 Yes, I am not very used on all this exposure on the internet.
00:40:10.000 It is something that I have to get used to this.
00:40:13.000 Yes.
00:40:17.000 My life is simple, Joe.
00:40:20.000 I live in Italy.
00:40:22.000 But now I repeat this.
00:40:29.000 It is time to go ahead and go on the Giza Plateau and in person I wish to see the effective structure, how they are and the purpose of all the plateau, what it is.
00:40:48.000 And is there plans to do that in person, to do some sort of an excavation?
00:40:54.000 Yes.
00:40:55.000 I wrote a project proposal, which is research and also not research, a proposal.
00:41:03.000 And is now our intention is to submit this proposal at the Egyptian authorities.
00:41:17.000 If you want, I can explain you this proposal.
00:41:20.000 Please.
00:41:22.000 We are involving the University of Ferrara, principal scientist, Professor Risa Vaccaro, Italian professor, she is a geologist, and other and other governmental, Italian governmental institutions that are very clever to do scans, in situ scans.
00:41:49.000 So we are not using my technique.
00:41:52.000 We use the state-of-the-art technique that it is recognized by science today.
00:42:00.000 And our intention is to concentrate the efforts on those shafts that I showed you, that we have seen, because we are not 99% convinced that, or sure, that those are natural entrances into the structures that are below, that are located below.
00:42:29.000 Because we have the vertical structures and you saw on the tomographies, you have also horizontal connections.
00:42:38.000 So there's corridors.
00:42:39.000 Yes, you have.
00:42:40.000 And how large are these corridors?
00:42:44.000 About they are tall, about three meters tall.
00:42:48.000 Okay.
00:42:48.000 So about nine feet tall.
00:42:50.000 Yes, yes.
00:42:52.000 That will, using these corridors, you will arrive directly inside the coils that we are visualizing, that we visualize before.
00:43:09.000 So there's passages and shafts and these enormous ways that they can go back and forth in between these various structures.
00:43:19.000 The thing that we have to do now is to clean those shafts.
00:43:22.000 We have to do cleaning because they are sand, debris.
00:43:30.000 Yeah.
00:43:31.000 And is there a timeline on when you would like to start cleaning these shafts and start doing this kind of stuff?
00:43:39.000 It depends when we submitted the project.
00:43:41.000 The project is ready.
00:43:43.000 I know people that are living in Egypt that when we are ready, we can submit the project proposal.
00:43:53.000 Then we are at when the government, if approved the project, we can start.
00:44:00.000 Now I would imagine that something like this, something at this scale, would require enormous funding.
00:44:06.000 And how do you hope to acquire that?
00:44:12.000 We can say people that this work is not for me, but is for humans.
00:44:21.000 And so people we ask people to help us in getting money to perform the work.
00:44:31.000 We have to ask people.
00:44:33.000 Have you reached out to any like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk type people that have tons of money that might be interested in doing something like this?
00:44:40.000 I don't know them, Joe.
00:44:41.000 You don't know them?
00:44:42.000 But maybe it's a big ask Yes.
00:44:46.000 It's a big asking a few billion dollars to go dig around under the pyramids.
00:44:52.000 I mean, how much money do you think it costs to do this?
00:44:57.000 We did an estimation of an estimation about, I don't know, maybe belonging for 20 million or more.
00:45:09.000 $20 million.
00:45:10.000 Yes.
00:45:10.000 $20 million.
00:45:11.000 And this is just to clean the shaft and go underneath the surface.
00:45:14.000 And because why so much money?
00:45:17.000 Because our intention is to work safety.
00:45:21.000 I don't want that people has to go down the shaft and work.
00:45:26.000 We want to use drone as robots to make something automatically and so go down by using machines, not humans.
00:45:35.000 Yeah, that makes sense.
00:45:36.000 Yeah, and that way you can get accurate real-time video and with cameras and it will be something, I am thinking about this.
00:45:48.000 Maybe it's one of the most ancient megalitic structures that we are dealing now can be recovered by the most modern technology that we have now today.
00:46:00.000 And so we can recover it, modern and ancient together.
00:46:04.000 So you have been giving this presentation now and even going around.
00:46:08.000 What has that been like?
00:46:09.000 What has the reception of it been like?
00:46:12.000 Yes, a moderate positive reception.
00:46:16.000 Moderate positive.
00:46:18.000 So people that are like, if this is true, it's amazing, but you have to show me more.
00:46:23.000 Yes.
00:46:25.000 I tell you, in this project proposal, I am out.
00:46:29.000 You're out?
00:46:29.000 Yes.
00:46:30.000 It is better than that University of Ferrara, that is one of the most important universities in Italy, can stay there and manage all the work.
00:46:41.000 It's better.
00:46:43.000 And I'm out.
00:46:43.000 Right.
00:46:44.000 Right.
00:46:45.000 You showed them what's there, showed them the technology.
00:46:48.000 Now, good luck.
00:46:50.000 Thank you.
00:46:51.000 Thank you, and good luck.
00:46:51.000 Thank you.
00:46:53.000 So tell me about this presentation.
00:46:54.000 So how do you set this up?
00:46:56.000 I know you brought some of the slides of this presentation.
00:46:59.000 Tell me how you set this up.
00:47:01.000 How you?
00:47:02.000 How you set it up.
00:47:03.000 So how you explain it to these when you have these semi-sceptical scientists that are sitting down there and you're going to tell them, I'm about to rewrite human history.
00:47:11.000 How do you set this up?
00:47:14.000 Oh, they were they were listening me very well and they asking me uh things uh uh about uh how the uh everyone um the first thing that they ask me is how it works and that's good.
00:47:27.000 And so I slowly explain ex explain them how it works and how I arrived to to to make this presentation so to have our results and uh and so and so on.
00:47:41.000 And they they they someone of them is skeptical, someone a bit less skeptical.
00:47:49.000 Which is what you want.
00:47:50.000 Yes.
00:47:50.000 Yes, you want healthy debate about this kind of thing.
00:47:52.000 A healthy debate, yes.
00:47:53.000 That's the only way you find out what the truth is.
00:47:56.000 Yes, only only having you a healthy debate, we can find what is the truth.
00:48:03.000 I don't want to polarize people for me, you know, it's not my it's not my job and all.
00:48:10.000 Well, not only that, it's not you're just discovering something.
00:48:13.000 This is something that's there and for people to just put on a skeptical lens and just not look at it at all is crazy.
00:48:13.000 Yes.
00:48:22.000 Like if you're skeptical, we should probably explore it.
00:48:22.000 Yes.
00:48:25.000 And if you're wrong, okay, now we know it's not true.
00:48:28.000 But if it is true, it's a crime to not investigate.
00:48:32.000 Do not investigate.
00:48:33.000 It's a crime to not investigate, yes.
00:48:35.000 And I tell you, the solution to we don't we don't have to dig holes, ruin what is now preserved.
00:48:48.000 No, we we have to only clean enough.
00:48:50.000 We have to only clean.
00:48:52.000 And we have to use what there is made.
00:48:56.000 It's for us because those shafts, they are for us.
00:49:00.000 They are calling us.
00:49:04.000 Our rights are to clean them and see what there is and go down and explore them personally.
00:49:13.000 Well, it just seems like if these shafts exist alone and they are at that depth that you describe and they are the dimensions you describe, it really does lend credence to what you're saying.
00:49:24.000 Because it seems like there's a purpose for those things.
00:49:27.000 And if they do go down to the area where all these structures are, it seems like there's something there.
00:49:33.000 In my personal opinion, they were built purposely.
00:49:36.000 And if you see the access points.
00:49:41.000 They were made probably to you know, Joe, when you go deep below the earth, the temperature rises a lot.
00:49:51.000 So there is a certain ratio of where the temperature rises proportional to the depth that you are going.
00:50:03.000 So the shafts are made purposely to take the function is to transport air, light, and so cool what there is inside.
00:50:17.000 Well that makes sense.
00:50:18.000 Yeah.
00:50:18.000 And also access.
00:50:21.000 Show me some other slides and other things that are in your presentation so you can get a more comprehensive understanding of what we're looking at.
00:50:30.000 Where should I go?
00:50:32.000 Okay.
00:50:33.000 Yes.
00:50:34.000 This is the Z.
00:50:37.000 This is ah, Mario Pinkerle.
00:50:39.000 Mario Pinkerle was a researcher that he died on 2011, 12.
00:50:49.000 And he was studying the Z, which is the multi-layer monument.
00:50:55.000 Let's call it the monument, but it's not a monument because it it has a certain and very precise function that is inside the pyramid.
00:51:04.000 This is the constant.
00:51:05.000 And this is the outlined image in the lower left-hand corner.
00:51:10.000 Yeah, that's the tomography that we have retrieved.
00:51:12.000 Look, it's very precise.
00:51:14.000 Right.
00:51:14.000 It looks exactly like what it looks like in the actual image.
00:51:17.000 What is that thing?
00:51:18.000 What is the what do you think the function of that thing is?
00:51:20.000 Yes.
00:51:21.000 The function is this.
00:51:27.000 It is.
00:51:28.000 You see on the top of the structure there is something like a cap.
00:51:32.000 Yes, like a cap.
00:51:35.000 That cap has a precise function to attract the vibration.
00:51:46.000 Okay?
00:51:47.000 It's an antenna in the vibration domain.
00:51:54.000 Antenna in the vibration domain.
00:51:54.000 Okay?
00:51:56.000 Yes.
00:51:57.000 Attract the energy in terms of mechanical vibration and propagates them below.
00:51:57.000 Okay.
00:52:08.000 There are other slides, please.
00:52:11.000 Here I did a simulation.
00:52:11.000 Okay.
00:52:13.000 Now I'm sorry because I don't have the video because this is a PDF, but I reproduce the function of the Z on the computer.
00:52:26.000 Okay?
00:52:27.000 Okay.
00:52:28.000 And look, on the right side, we have all the vibrations that interact one to each other to each layer.
00:52:37.000 Look.
00:52:38.000 And you can see that each layer, look how strange it is.
00:52:42.000 Each layer on the top of each layer is scattered.
00:52:48.000 Look.
00:52:49.000 On the top of each layer.
00:52:51.000 And the bottom is very flat.
00:52:53.000 It's flat.
00:52:54.000 So what is that?
00:52:56.000 It is something related to filter.
00:52:58.000 It is a low-pass filter made by stones.
00:53:04.000 Very crazy.
00:53:05.000 That's a low-pass filter.
00:53:07.000 A low-pass filter.
00:53:08.000 What exactly is a low-pass filter?
00:53:10.000 Yes, a low-pass filter is a filter that allows us, that allows the transmission only of certain frequencies and reject other frequencies.
00:53:21.000 So it is a stabilizer, frequency stabilizer, and a low-pass or a certain low-value frequency.
00:53:31.000 Right.
00:53:31.000 Okay?
00:53:33.000 And so this aligns with Christopher Dunn's theory.
00:53:36.000 Yeah.
00:53:36.000 That there was something underneath the pyramid, that there was a chamber that they were using to generate vibration.
00:53:46.000 And that that vibration would go through the entire structure.
00:53:49.000 Yes, and look, Joe, the last layer transmits directly inside the so-called sarcophagus.
00:54:01.000 That's not a sarcophagus.
00:54:04.000 There.
00:54:05.000 And so what do you think that what they call a sarcophagus, this immense granite box?
00:54:10.000 Yes, let's call it the granite box, yes.
00:54:14.000 And then inside the granite box was done to contain a man, a body.
00:54:21.000 And that vibration, look, collapses at the center of the granite box where the man was lying down.
00:54:29.000 So do you think there was actually a man inside that?
00:54:31.000 So a person would lay in that box.
00:54:33.000 Yes.
00:54:34.000 And what would happen to them?
00:54:36.000 I don't know.
00:54:37.000 Whoa.
00:54:39.000 So.
00:54:40.000 I don't know.
00:54:41.000 That's a simulation that I did, but it's precise.
00:54:44.000 So you don't think it's for a dead body.
00:54:46.000 You think it's for a live body.
00:54:48.000 Yes.
00:54:48.000 And so a person would lay there and have some probably incredibly profound experience with whatever.
00:54:56.000 Probably, yes.
00:54:58.000 What do you think it was?
00:55:01.000 If you just wanted to get crazy and put on the tinfoil hat and speculate, what do you think it was?
00:55:07.000 I mean, what would happen to a person if they encountered this kind of vibration, these kind of frequencies in this resonating granite box?
00:55:18.000 I can say something that is not scientific recognizable.
00:55:22.000 Yeah, that's what I want.
00:55:28.000 Maybe.
00:55:29.000 Keep it up there, Jim.
00:55:32.000 What do you think?
00:55:33.000 Maybe that person was ready to have an out-of-the-body experience in you, like a gateway.
00:55:41.000 A gateway to the spirit world.
00:55:46.000 Look, on the top, you have the antenna.
00:55:50.000 The antenna is recepting all the vibrations that transmits all the signal below directly inside the granite box.
00:56:01.000 It's very exciting.
00:56:03.000 And what do you think was generating these vibrations?
00:56:06.000 Ah, yes.
00:56:08.000 The wind, the natural vibration of the earth, and also some, let's say, the flowing of water, also the flowing of water.
00:56:21.000 So generated by flowing water.
00:56:23.000 And there was also shafts that were, this is part of Christopher Dunn's theory.
00:56:28.000 These shafts that reached the outside of space that he thinks were attracting space radiation.
00:56:34.000 Can be.
00:56:35.000 Yeah, that's another possibility.
00:56:36.000 Yes, another possibility.
00:56:37.000 He also had a theory that perhaps the lower chamber that's below the pyramid itself, that there was some mechanical device inside of there that was generating vibration.
00:56:49.000 For this, it can be, yes, can be.
00:56:52.000 So we don't through the entire structure, and this is creating this vibration.
00:56:58.000 That's the antenna.
00:57:00.000 You've got this filter through it, and then someone is laying in this sarcophagus, tripping balls.
00:57:04.000 Yes.
00:57:05.000 Whoa.
00:57:07.000 That's crazy.
00:57:09.000 That's crazy.
00:57:12.000 Do you imagine if this entire structure was just built so that someone could have some sort of a bizarre out-of-body experience or psychedelic gateway experience?
00:57:24.000 I think it's psychedelic Disney World.
00:57:24.000 I think that's true.
00:57:27.000 I seriously.
00:57:27.000 I do.
00:57:28.000 I had that epiphany like two months ago.
00:57:30.000 Really?
00:57:31.000 I don't want to explain it, but please do.
00:57:33.000 I was looking at a picture of me when I was a kid at Cedar Point, which is like roller coaster place.
00:57:39.000 I was just thinking of how much effort we put in to making kids or young adults have a wild experience that is only in reference to.
00:57:50.000 You only understand it if you live there.
00:57:51.000 If you found Disney World now in a thousand years, you'd be like, what the fuck?
00:57:55.000 They worship mice?
00:57:57.000 The fuck are you talking about?
00:57:58.000 This is insane.
00:57:59.000 Look at all the pictures of mice everywhere.
00:58:01.000 That's a dream.
00:58:01.000 But you'd see that giant castle and there's rides everywhere and you would have no idea what the experience of that ride would have been like.
00:58:07.000 Or the teacups.
00:58:08.000 Right.
00:58:08.000 It's nonsense.
00:58:09.000 It's fun for kids, but also would make them feel amazing, but also adding what this vibration stuff does and sound and music and all these other things.
00:58:19.000 You could put them all together and be like, you could feel like a god.
00:58:22.000 Yeah.
00:58:23.000 If lightning hit the thing, you'd be like, what the.
00:58:26.000 I just had that wild idea one day.
00:58:26.000 I don't know.
00:58:28.000 It's an interesting idea because you think people have always been fascinated by achieving novel experiences.
00:58:35.000 And what more novel experience than a 2,300,000 stone structure that's perfectly aligned to true north, south, east, and west, aligns to the stars of Orion's belt.
00:58:47.000 You lie inside a stone box and the vibrations hit you and you're in that box, boom, Naturally, you go out of the body.
00:58:58.000 Who knows what it does to the body and the mind, because we know that the mind is capable of producing endogenous psychedelic chemicals.
00:59:05.000 We also know that people have a very profound reaction to frequencies.
00:59:09.000 That's why sound hits us so hard and we love music and just vibration itself.
00:59:14.000 And this sound weapon that they just recently used in Venezuela, supposedly to knock out all Maduro's troops.
00:59:22.000 What could this thing have been?
00:59:26.000 Yes.
00:59:29.000 I am relatively sure that the principal actor of everything can be water vibrations, so sound, sound.
00:59:46.000 But we are dealing now to the third thing.
00:59:51.000 So the purpose, the exact purpose of this.
00:59:55.000 Maybe it can be also one more than one purpose, more than one scopus of the pyramids.
01:00:06.000 The pyramids intended to be, now I am 100% convinced that the pyramids can be considered the tip of the iceberg of something very huge that is composed by things that are below the earth and the pyramids that are up at the surface of the earth.
01:00:31.000 So what do you think the reason for the design of the pyramid in that specific geometric shape?
01:00:39.000 Yes, probably because they have to resonate with the universe.
01:00:44.000 In some, they have to resonate with the universe.
01:00:55.000 You know, the universe...
01:00:58.000 The universe jaw, it is not complicated.
01:01:04.000 It's simple.
01:01:06.000 Because the universe is constituted by things, the matter, the particles, the light, yes, but everything is regulated by some constants.
01:01:19.000 There are the constants.
01:01:21.000 So the velocity, the speed of the light, C three times ten to the eight kilometers per second.
01:01:31.000 Then you have, so the velocity of the light, so you have the electric constants, the magnetic constants that are that arranges very well the law of the universe.
01:01:43.000 So it is important that something that has to be well related to the place that we live, to the universe, has to contain very precisely the dimensions of recasting the constants of the universe.
01:02:05.000 And that's what you think the pyramids did?
01:02:08.000 Personally, yes.
01:02:09.000 Personally, yes.
01:02:11.000 How old do you think they are?
01:02:13.000 Yes, on the...
01:02:16.000 Sorry, the Italian starts.
01:02:19.000 I start speaking Italian.
01:02:28.000 The thing that we can say for certainly is that the pyramids are older than the dates that are written on the typical history books.
01:02:43.000 So to see something that to say something very precisely, we have to go back in time into the Zeptepe. 0.96
01:02:53.000 So more than 36,000 years ago, something happened to the earth.
01:03:01.000 So the Zeptepe began, and in a time belonging, the Zeptepi and the Great Flood were built the pyramid. 0.96
01:03:13.000 The pyramids.
01:03:16.000 So like what I'm sending you something, Jamie, that's very interesting.
01:03:19.000 Yes.
01:03:20.000 So do you have an idea?
01:03:23.000 Do you have an estimation?
01:03:24.000 Like, what is your personal belief?
01:03:26.000 Yes.
01:03:28.000 We can't say exactly the year.
01:03:31.000 So Zeptepe, let's explain to people what that is.
01:03:34.000 Since I sometimes forget.
01:03:37.000 Zeptepe is the thing that I described to Zahi Huas, and he dismissed it.
01:03:42.000 But I've never heard of this.
01:03:45.000 It's an ancient king's list.
01:03:47.000 And it's a list of pharaohs that goes back past 30,000 years.
01:03:51.000 And it's very inconvenient for modern academics.
01:03:56.000 And so they like to portray it as myth.
01:03:59.000 And then when it gets to the age of historically accurate pharaohs that we know of, Khufu and Khafre, then they allow those hieroglyphs.
01:04:11.000 But when you get all the way back to the 30,000 years ago, they like to say that that's just mythology.
01:04:16.000 Yes, it's true.
01:04:17.000 But it is a matter of fact, the Zeptepi, we have also other ancient megalitics that are very old, recognized, very old.
01:04:29.000 So we have to deal with that.
01:04:32.000 Well, Gobekli Tepe was a problem.
01:04:33.000 Go back is a big problem, more than 11,000 years old, for sure.
01:04:37.000 And as we saw...
01:04:40.000 Here it is.
01:04:41.000 This is something that I actually just talked to Graham Hancock about.
01:04:45.000 This is Stella, is a limestone inscription discovered in 1858 near the Great Pyramid complex at Giza.
01:04:50.000 And the text describes a pharaoh Khufu who ruled from 2589 to 2566 BC visiting the site and ordering restorations to existing structures, including a temple associated with the goddess Isis.
01:05:06.000 The stela refers to Isis as the mistress of the pyramid, a title that has raised questions about whether parts of the Giza Plateau were already considered sacred before Khufu's reign.
01:05:17.000 And although most Egyptologists date the stela itself to the 26th dynasty, more than 2,000 years after Khufu, its wording continues to draw attention because it portrays the pharaoh as a restorer rather than the original builder.
01:05:32.000 Whether the inscription provides older tradition or reflects later religious interpretation remains debated.
01:05:37.000 But if this is accurate, this describes Khufu as restoring the pyramids.
01:05:44.000 Now, this exists throughout history.
01:05:49.000 The temple of Tenochetlan, where the Aztecs had, when they described it, they described it as the place where the gods were born.
01:05:59.000 And they found it.
01:06:00.000 Like, people think the Aztecs made the pyramids.
01:06:02.000 They did not.
01:06:04.000 There was some sort of a previous civilization that lived in Mexico prior to the people that called themselves the Aztecs or what we call the Aztecs.
01:06:12.000 And they built.
01:06:13.000 So there's a long-standing history of people repurposing existing structures and claiming them as their own.
01:06:21.000 And if this stela is accurate, and this was also in Fingerprints of the Gods, Graham Hancock's book.
01:06:27.000 So I sent this to Graham, and his reaction was pretty interesting.
01:06:31.000 What he said to me was that There's a strong suggestion that the Khufu Pyramid might have been one of the three subsidiary structures alongside the Great Pyramid's eastern flank, and all that looked like damaging evidence against the orthodox chronology of ancient Egypt.
01:06:49.000 It also challenged the consensus view that the Giza pyramids had been built as tombs and only as tombs.
01:06:56.000 However, rather than investigating the statements from the Stella, the Egypt childifs, they chose to devalue them in his quotes.
01:07:08.000 They chose to say, ah, that's just inconvenient.
01:07:11.000 But if they are describing it that way, it seems like this is a long-standing tradition of people finding things that exist.
01:07:22.000 There's clearly ancient Egypt itself, dynastic Egypt, is a very complex society, very complex and very advanced society, even if they didn't build that stuff.
01:07:33.000 But it seems like they're saying the restorer.
01:07:36.000 Yes.
01:07:36.000 Yes.
01:07:38.000 I agree with you, Joe.
01:07:41.000 I tell you, there are some facts that we have to observe, because I am used to observing.
01:07:50.000 Before I say something, I have to observe.
01:07:55.000 So I'm not, I say, an expert of pyramids, because I am an engineer, I work on satellites, I am a space engineer, I'm not an Egyptologist like that.
01:08:11.000 But I can observe.
01:08:16.000 Inside the pyramids, they found a lot of salt that were attached on the walls.
01:08:29.000 So they find the salt.
01:08:32.000 Why there was salt there?
01:08:34.000 First.
01:08:35.000 Second, the shafts that we are dealing with now, if we want to clean the shafts, why there is debris, why they are tapped.
01:08:50.000 So if the Great Flood is an historical parameter recognized, so let's say 11,000, 12,000 years ago, let's say, something like that.
01:09:05.000 I don't remember precisely.
01:09:06.000 The Zeptepe, which is not recognized, is 36,000 in the past.
01:09:13.000 So between the Zeptepe and the Great Flood, we can locate the pyramids and the Sphinx.
01:09:22.000 Wow.
01:09:23.000 So the Great Flood, we're looking at 11,000 plus years ago.
01:09:27.000 Zeptepe, you're looking at 30,000 plus years ago.
01:09:31.000 We can say, I'm an engineer.
01:09:31.000 Yes.
01:09:35.000 I put myself in the center between 36,000 and 11,000.
01:09:41.000 See if you can find some images of salt in the Great Pyramids, because it is quite fascinating.
01:09:48.000 And if there was some sort of a massive rise of sea and massive flooding, which is depicted in every single ancient religion, from Epic of Gilgamesh to the Hopi talk about it.
01:10:03.000 I mean, it's like almost all cultures have a story.
01:10:06.000 Obviously, Noah and the Ark and the flood in the Bible, but this salt.
01:10:12.000 Joe, two months ago I went for the first time to visit the pyramids and I found salt on the wall.
01:10:19.000 There is still salt.
01:10:22.000 And you think that salt is probably because I taste it of water, of the sea.
01:10:27.000 Wow.
01:10:28.000 Yes.
01:10:29.000 I forgot to bring it to you.
01:10:32.000 Not just that, but there's so much salt that there's still salt there 11,000 years later, which is really extraordinary.
01:10:41.000 And so you think that that salt is because the entire area was flooded?
01:10:45.000 Yes.
01:10:45.000 And that's the reason why the shafts were flooded and filled with debris.
01:10:48.000 Yes.
01:10:48.000 Right.
01:10:50.000 Topped off with debris, because everything just flooded into there.
01:10:53.000 And then when the sea receded, so many years later, you're left with salt everywhere.
01:10:58.000 Yeah.
01:10:59.000 And that's why the reason that I don't want that people goes to work inside the shaft because they're dangerous, can collapse the debris, can collapse, because you can have a bubble of air, and so it's dangerous.
01:11:16.000 Robots has to go.
01:11:16.000 Right, right.
01:11:18.000 Well, it makes more sense.
01:11:18.000 Right.
01:11:19.000 Robots are safer.
01:11:22.000 So everything is connected.
01:11:23.000 The great flood, the Zeptepe, and the pyramids.
01:11:26.000 Wow.
01:11:27.000 Eventually.
01:11:28.000 And I'm convinced with that.
01:11:29.000 Yeah.
01:11:30.000 I am convinced.
01:11:32.000 That maybe 18, I go in the center, 18,000 or something like that, between 18,000 and 20,000.
01:11:41.000 Well, what's crazy is, I mean, that pushes back that ancient civilization by 14,000 years.
01:11:46.000 Yeah.
01:11:47.000 Which is at least 14,000 years.
01:11:49.000 I mean, John Anthony West thought maybe 30,000 plus years did the construction of the Sphinx.
01:11:54.000 That's what he thought.
01:11:55.000 And when Robert Schock from Boston University, the geologist that started doing work on the pyramid and then, excuse me, the Temple of the Sphinx.
01:12:05.000 The Sphinx, yes.
01:12:06.000 Yeah, and the water erosion, he's like, this is vertical.
01:12:09.000 Yes, it's vertical fissures that come from thousands of years of rainfall.
01:12:13.000 And the last time there was like significant rainfall in the Nile Valley, like that was 9,000 years ago.
01:12:18.000 So you're dealing with thousands of years before that of rain to achieve that kind of erosion.
01:12:24.000 Yes.
01:12:25.000 It is necessary now.
01:12:28.000 That's why this research and this activity that hope we will do, it is very important.
01:12:34.000 Yeah.
01:12:35.000 Because this, it is able to rewrite everything.
01:12:39.000 I mean, really rewrite everything.
01:12:41.000 Imagine if you could get something from down in those shafts and those corridors, something that you could date.
01:12:49.000 Yeah.
01:12:50.000 And you get a date back of 26,000 BC.
01:12:53.000 You go, what?
01:12:55.000 You know, I mean, this is, it's not outside of the realm of possibility.
01:12:59.000 That's what's so crazy about this.
01:13:01.000 It just really does seem like we are getting more and more evidence that things are far older than conventional wisdom, than conventional, the conventional narrative that's taught in schools.
01:13:15.000 Yes, I agree.
01:13:17.000 I agree because as I told you before, this is time.
01:13:21.000 This is the time to see effective what we which is the exact date of construction, who made them and how they made them.
01:13:33.000 But how could we figure out how they made it?
01:13:35.000 That's the crazy thing, right?
01:13:37.000 Because we don't even understand the technology they used to cut them.
01:13:40.000 Yeah.
01:13:41.000 We don't know what they had.
01:13:42.000 And that's the other thing.
01:13:44.000 If you're dealing with something that's 20,000 plus years old, 15,000 years old, what's going to be left?
01:13:50.000 All the metal's gone.
01:13:51.000 Everything is eroded.
01:13:52.000 The earth is reclaimed.
01:13:54.000 Most things.
01:13:55.000 Really, the thing that you have left is stone, which is pretty crazy.
01:14:00.000 Yeah.
01:14:01.000 And if we see the rooms, all the structures that are currently inside, let's say the Chaos Pyramid, which I like it a lot, the Grand Gallery is very nice, fascinating.
01:14:14.000 They have a precision, incredible precision.
01:14:17.000 All those big, huge stones that is composing the Grand Gallery is very exciting.
01:14:25.000 I like it a lot.
01:14:27.000 Did you have uh any sort of fascination about the pyramids before this?
01:14:33.000 Or Joe, I remember when I was young, very young, I used to uh I had a it uh how you say I had a sm a personal computer, very old one, and I was always playing all always on a on something that uh and there was the pyramids, they were all the pyramids.
01:15:01.000 And there in that meantime, I I realized that uh I liked the pyramids.
01:15:08.000 And so I was very young.
01:15:10.000 So the personal computer you were just researching the pyramids, is that what it was?
01:15:13.000 Yeah, what do you say?
01:15:14.000 Just looking at pictures and images and on the pyramids.
01:15:18.000 So you always were fascinated by it.
01:15:19.000 But did you have an understanding or even any questions about the timeline of civilization before this?
01:15:25.000 No, never.
01:15:26.000 So it only happened within the last few years.
01:15:28.000 Yes.
01:15:32.000 I began working, so being interested on pyramids starting from 2018.
01:15:40.000 So it was right after you started doing this research.
01:15:44.000 And you started saying, okay, what is this?
01:15:44.000 Yes.
01:15:46.000 Yeah.
01:15:47.000 And so when you start to research on something that is our history, our past, our origins, because our origins are there.
01:16:01.000 So we have to fetch, we have to find what there is there because it is important to research our origin because in this meantime, humanity does not know, we don't know who we are.
01:16:20.000 We don't know our origins.
01:16:22.000 We don't know anything of who we are.
01:16:26.000 And most of the answers can be found in studying the pyramids.
01:16:33.000 Well, it certainly seems to be the greatest accomplishment that ancient humans had ever created. 0.91
01:16:38.000 Yes.
01:16:39.000 And if these humans were far more ancient than we currently believe, that is really, really interesting.
01:16:47.000 And it is for me, it is something that I have always in my mind, only to know how they did, how they cut the stones, how they have transported the stones, and how, I don't know, how, how, how, everything.
01:17:04.000 It's all how, how, how.
01:17:05.000 Like, what gave them the idea?
01:17:07.000 Like, were there any previous pyramids?
01:17:09.000 Because it's weird because the older you go, the more complex the structures are.
01:17:14.000 And the newer ones are kind of shitty.
01:17:17.000 Yeah.
01:17:19.000 So, okay, so we went from that, we showed this antenna and it goes into the supposed sarcophagus and these vibrations.
01:17:26.000 What other things do you show in your presentation that are interesting?
01:17:32.000 I showed principally all the structures that are under the Kaffrey pyramid and also under each pyramid.
01:17:41.000 And also I described the method on how going below without drilling anything.
01:17:53.000 And so I showed them, I showed them that there are the entrances are there on our eyes.
01:18:01.000 Everyone can see those shafts.
01:18:05.000 And so why we are not exploring them?
01:18:08.000 Why they are so dirty?
01:18:10.000 Why they are so without any kind of work of renewables.
01:18:17.000 I don't know why.
01:18:19.000 Well, it seems like there's limited resources, first of all.
01:18:24.000 And also it seems like Egypt, an entire economy is based on tourism, an immense amount of tourism, because it's so fantastic.
01:18:34.000 People from all over the world make a pilgrimage.
01:18:37.000 I also find a method to combine, so not stopping the tourism.
01:18:46.000 So it is possible to combine the work and also the tourism.
01:18:49.000 So we can delimitate the area inside the area we work, and outside the area, safety.
01:18:56.000 All the people can visit the pyramid, the GISA plateau.
01:18:58.000 And not only that, I think it will enhance tourism.
01:19:01.000 Because if this speculation proves to be fruitful and you start looking under there and you find that there is evidence to all this, it's just going to make more people want to go there.
01:19:10.000 Oh, yes, I agree with you.
01:19:12.000 But you imagine, Joe, we will find the structures that are underneath.
01:19:20.000 And maybe we can try to build a huge lift that carry people downstairs in safety always.
01:19:28.000 Or maybe not below for a lot, but at a certain depth, so they can also travel along the horizontal corridors that are present.
01:19:39.000 And so they go up from the shafts and they go up to the Kafre pyramid and they go away from the entrance here and they go intercepting the pyramids.
01:19:56.000 That would be amazing.
01:19:58.000 I mean, it would just be much more tourism.
01:20:00.000 Yeah.
01:20:00.000 Yes.
01:20:01.000 And also, all eyes would be on Egypt.
01:20:04.000 I mean, it would probably be a huge boost to their economy.
01:20:07.000 It would probably be a huge boost to archaeology because more young people would get fascinated by it and want to study it.
01:20:15.000 And imagine also this.
01:20:17.000 What can we find below down there?
01:20:22.000 What can we find?
01:20:24.000 This is a question that I am asking.
01:20:26.000 Because if we watch the slide concerning the shaft that I want to clean, there are things inside.
01:20:37.000 I am showing there are things located inside the chamber.
01:20:44.000 Look, there is something.
01:20:46.000 What is that?
01:20:47.000 What are you seeing?
01:20:48.000 We're talking about the shaft where it goes all the way down to the bottom and there's a chamber.
01:20:51.000 Is that what you mean?
01:20:53.000 That one, yes.
01:20:55.000 Right there.
01:20:56.000 So that structure that is at the bottom.
01:20:58.000 What's that?
01:20:59.000 I don't know, what's that?
01:21:01.000 Right.
01:21:02.000 It's very huge.
01:21:04.000 Very huge, and it's at the bottom of the shaft.
01:21:08.000 Look, the horizontal corridors.
01:21:12.000 And so there's more horizontal corridors during the, when you traverse down into the shaft, then you intercept other corridors.
01:21:23.000 And how large are those corridors?
01:21:25.000 By about three meters tall.
01:21:29.000 So there's these three meter tall shafts that go to the side, these corridors that go to the side.
01:21:35.000 Yes.
01:21:36.000 Along the way, and then also down at the very bottom.
01:21:39.000 Yes.
01:21:41.000 And you're convinced of this.
01:21:42.000 This is also good data.
01:21:44.000 Right.
01:21:47.000 And no one has ever sent a camera down there or anything.
01:21:50.000 Those are human, man-made structures, like a ring on another ring.
01:21:57.000 Look, it is very clear.
01:21:59.000 Right.
01:22:00.000 If you observe the structure.
01:22:01.000 Those are man-made.
01:22:02.000 And they go deep, very deep.
01:22:02.000 Right.
01:22:04.000 And you can see the rubbish that is on the bottom.
01:22:07.000 All the debris.
01:22:08.000 And that debris, you think, was a lot of it because of the flood.
01:22:12.000 I am 100% sure of this.
01:22:15.000 Yeah.
01:22:16.000 So the pyramids or the GISA Plateau, it seems to stop the functionality, the working.
01:22:26.000 We don't know which kind of work were used to do, but stopped because of the Great Flood.
01:22:34.000 So we can go back in time in 12,000 years ago.
01:22:40.000 And when the people that don't know, if you're hearing this, like what great flood?
01:22:44.000 That's just not, that's just myth.
01:22:45.000 There's a thing called the Younger Dryas Impact Theory, and the Younger Dryas Impact Theory group that's been studying this, they now know that there was impacts to the Earth that are around the 11,800-year mark, and then I believe again in the 10,000-year range.
01:23:03.000 Randall Carlson is probably the best guy to talk to about that, but that they find high levels of iridium, which is very common in space and very rare on Earth, but there's a layer of it.
01:23:15.000 They also find these nano-diamonds that they also discovered during the first Trinity explosion when they detonated the atomic bomb.
01:23:23.000 They find these microscopic glass particles that are created by the intense explosion interacting with the sand.
01:23:30.000 So what is it called?
01:23:31.000 Trinitite triton.
01:23:34.000 What are those nuclear glass?
01:23:37.000 What is that called?
01:23:37.000 Tritonite?
01:23:38.000 Is that what it's called?
01:23:40.000 Something related to vitrification.
01:23:43.000 Okay.
01:23:43.000 Yes.
01:23:44.000 So this exists all over the world.
01:23:47.000 And it exists all over the world when they do a core sample at the same depth.
01:23:51.000 And so this is a very strong scientific indicator of evidence that we've been hit.
01:23:57.000 But another scientific indicator is the debris.
01:23:59.000 Why there is that debris there?
01:24:01.000 Right.
01:24:01.000 Why so much?
01:24:02.000 So much.
01:24:02.000 Right.
01:24:03.000 Why so much.
01:24:04.000 If we do carotage drilling of that debris inside the shaft, I don't know how deep we can go.
01:24:11.000 So why there is all that debris there?
01:24:14.000 We don't know.
01:24:15.000 Right.
01:24:15.000 But which makes sense if there is a great flood that fills the pyramid with salt water, that it probably washed all that sand into that gigantic vertical shaft.
01:24:25.000 Yeah.
01:24:26.000 Completely makes sense.
01:24:27.000 And I tell you, Joe, if we do the chemical exploration of death debris, we can find also a certain density of salt because where mixed in the past by salty water and debris and soils.
01:24:46.000 Also, you could get dirt from the very bottom and get some sort of organic material and carbon date that.
01:24:53.000 And maybe you can get an understanding of maybe when stuff was washed down to the bottom of that shaft.
01:24:59.000 Very interesting.
01:25:00.000 Yes, it's possible.
01:25:01.000 It can be possible.
01:25:02.000 It's crazy if they did that and it lines up directly with the Younger Dryas Impact Theory.
01:25:07.000 I mean, that would be incredible evidence.
01:25:10.000 Either way, just what it is that we know that there's immense shafts.
01:25:15.000 We know that they go many, many meters deep into the earth.
01:25:19.000 And we know that there's these horizontal shafts along the way, these corridors along the way.
01:25:24.000 All of it is just nuts.
01:25:30.000 I was looking at the Osiris shaft here, the shaft.
01:25:35.000 Okay.
01:25:35.000 Which is near these other ones.
01:25:37.000 When they found it, there was water down there they had to get out.
01:25:41.000 And the water is not only cold, ice cold, it says, it's clean enough to be drinking water.
01:25:47.000 And I don't know that it doesn't, it sounded like it refills itself.
01:25:51.000 Oh, so there's a spring down there.
01:25:53.000 Well, that is also the problem with the labyrinth.
01:25:56.000 So the labyrinth that they have where there's this enormous atrium and this 40-meter-long metallic object that apparently is underneath there, and this is through ground-penetrating radar they discover this.
01:26:07.000 I don't think they know what that metal is either.
01:26:10.000 I think it's an unknown metal.
01:26:12.000 But they built a dam there, I believe in the 1960s, and to help the farmers.
01:26:18.000 And unfortunately, that flooded that whole area.
01:26:21.000 So because they changed the direction of the water and built this dam, the water table rose.
01:26:25.000 Yes.
01:26:26.000 And that entire labyrinth is now filled with water.
01:26:30.000 But through ground-penetrating radar, they've been able to get this accurate assessment of the dimensions of it.
01:26:35.000 And then they go back to the descriptions of Herodotus, who described it.
01:26:39.000 See if you can pull that up.
01:26:41.000 Herodotus described it as greater than the Giza Plateau itself.
01:26:45.000 So these labyrinths, these corridors, these atriums, these huge passageways underneath the Great Pyramid area, more complex and more spectacular than the pyramids themselves.
01:26:58.000 Yes.
01:26:59.000 My God.
01:27:00.000 My God.
01:27:01.000 Like, what was this civilization?
01:27:03.000 These people living in Africa, however long ago, were so much more advanced than perhaps anybody that's ever existed, including us, just in a different way.
01:27:14.000 Including us.
01:27:15.000 Just in a different way.
01:27:16.000 Just to remark the fact, Joe, that there is a difference between the water table, which of course is composed by drinkable water and the water that they found compounding the Osiris shaft, and the water that transported all the debris, but that water was salty water because of the Great Flood.
01:27:42.000 So it was water of the sea, composing the sea.
01:27:47.000 Which makes sense when you see the salt that's all over the pyramids.
01:27:50.000 This is Herodotus' quote.
01:27:51.000 I've seen it myself, and indeed words cannot describe it.
01:27:54.000 Though the pyramids beggar description, and each one of them is a match for many great monuments built by Greeks, this maze surpasses even the pyramids.
01:28:05.000 That is crazy.
01:28:07.000 That's crazy that he said that.
01:28:09.000 And have you ever seen any of the artistic renditions of what it looks like?
01:28:14.000 See if you can find some of that.
01:28:14.000 No.
01:28:16.000 Because we did it.
01:28:16.000 If anybody's interested in this, I can't recommend enough Uncharted X.
01:28:21.000 It's Ben Van Kirkwitz.
01:28:23.000 This is what apparently is underneath this area, which is just fucking staggering.
01:28:30.000 Wow, how nice.
01:28:31.000 This is all underground.
01:28:32.000 And so I think the next site that we can study can be this.
01:28:40.000 Yeah.
01:28:41.000 Yeah.
01:28:42.000 Awara.
01:28:42.000 And if you could find out what that 40-meter-long metallic object is, that's when things get weird.
01:28:49.000 That's when things get real weird.
01:28:50.000 Because you find a spaceship down there.
01:28:56.000 Then things get really fun.
01:28:58.000 I mean, we're Egyptian space travelers.
01:29:01.000 Why not?
01:29:02.000 I mean, if they could build that, why not space?
01:29:04.000 Who knows what they could do?
01:29:06.000 They're lying in a gigantic stone box tripping balls.
01:29:10.000 They have this huge pyramid.
01:29:13.000 The structures go how long?
01:29:15.000 A kilometer, the entire thing, into the earth?
01:29:17.000 1.2.
01:29:19.000 1.2 kilometers into the earth.
01:29:21.000 From the base of the pyramid down, 1.2 kilometers.
01:29:25.000 Wow.
01:29:27.000 Does this change?
01:29:28.000 I mean, from 2018 to now, from you researching this, does this change your entire perspective of human history and just human beings in general?
01:29:41.000 In my personal opinion, yes.
01:29:43.000 Because before this was a problem accepting how the pyramids were made, all those stones.
01:29:52.000 But if we are adding also the structures that are underneath, I don't know what happens.
01:29:59.000 Right.
01:30:00.000 More impossible than before.
01:30:02.000 Right.
01:30:04.000 More impossible than, I mean, if you'd imagine with modern technology trying to recreate something like that, you're talking about an immense project that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, if not more.
01:30:17.000 And the engineering involved in it.
01:30:19.000 I mean, you're an engineer.
01:30:20.000 The engineering involved in doing something like that.
01:30:23.000 Like, how?
01:30:25.000 How they can cut the granite so precisely is impossible.
01:30:29.000 It's impossible.
01:30:30.000 Also, today is impossible.
01:30:32.000 So they had some sort of a technology that is far more advanced than we have.
01:30:36.000 They just went in a different direction.
01:30:39.000 We went in the direction of internal combustion engines and electronics, and they probably went in some completely different direction.
01:30:46.000 Yeah.
01:30:46.000 Yes, because the modern science started from a point, and then, as you are saying right, we followed a direction, which is the direction of light.
01:31:01.000 Because most of our inventions are, yes, internal combustion engines and other stuff, but principally we use light because we can see it.
01:31:16.000 We can see it.
01:31:17.000 We can see light.
01:31:18.000 Okay, we use light.
01:31:20.000 But other existence, other people that was living in the past, maybe use other things that we don't know.
01:31:32.000 Maybe sound.
01:31:33.000 Maybe sound.
01:31:34.000 Well, it seems like if this is generating sound and vibration, if your speculation is correct.
01:31:39.000 Yes.
01:31:40.000 That they were obsessed with vibration and sound.
01:31:43.000 Yes.
01:31:44.000 They were obsessed in vibrations and sound.
01:31:48.000 Because all the structures that I watched inside the pyramids, they are like something that generates sound or they maintain clean the sound.
01:32:04.000 It resonates.
01:32:05.000 It echoes.
01:32:05.000 It resonates.
01:32:06.000 It has a very specific echo to it.
01:32:08.000 That Z, like that, is magnificent. 0.96
01:32:12.000 The Z is perfect. 0.83
01:32:14.000 It's a perfect device made by stones.
01:32:19.000 It's very nice.
01:32:21.000 And just how, how and where did they get the understanding to construct something like this?
01:32:28.000 And this is what screws up our idea of a linear timeline of human progression and civilization to go from caveman to modern 2026 human being.
01:32:41.000 We like to think that it was just, oh, we figured this out, then we figured the wheel out, and then it was agriculture.
01:32:46.000 Now here we are today with cars.
01:32:48.000 But more likely, there were some peaks and valleys.
01:32:52.000 We rose up to a very high level, probably during Egypt, and it was shattered down, and it took probably a long time before civilization rebuilt itself again.
01:33:00.000 Yes.
01:33:01.000 Joe, then we are speaking about modern living, but modern living has to be sustainable.
01:33:09.000 Right.
01:33:10.000 I don't think that our modern living is so sustainable.
01:33:13.000 No.
01:33:13.000 No.
01:33:15.000 I mean, even our population isn't sustainable.
01:33:18.000 We're in population collapse in many countries in the world, South Korea, Japan.
01:33:23.000 Even there's arguments about America itself that we're in population collapse.
01:33:28.000 And we're also chaotic.
01:33:32.000 We also have a very bizarre distribution of information that's filled with nonsense and lies and propaganda.
01:33:38.000 Yes, lies and propaganda.
01:33:39.000 We have the government that's constantly trying to censor people and control speech and limit your ability to express yourself and complain about things so they can continue to dominate resources.
01:33:49.000 We have a weird society today.
01:33:52.000 But it's also a society because of this access to information where you can discuss and explore things in a way that has never happened before.
01:34:01.000 And that is that's the most exciting thing about our time.
01:34:05.000 There's so much room for discussion.
01:34:08.000 I want to, if I can, to explain you something that is maybe related to philosophy or to other things.
01:34:21.000 We have an example of how modern humans are a bit strange because we are not made, it is like that we are not made to research or to find the harmonics in our living.
01:34:46.000 And so I just want to make an example.
01:34:52.000 Do you remember in the 80s when the cold fusion rises?
01:34:57.000 So maybe we are speaking about Fleshman and Pons that made for the first time they had a glass of water and inside they made a mini nuclear reactor inside.
01:35:12.000 They had some results that were very, very poor results, I know, but was a base to build something stronger.
01:35:21.000 They put away that experiment, so no, they debunked that experiment.
01:35:27.000 It was not good, it is not good because it is not possible.
01:35:32.000 And the example of the cold fusion is how we are, because cold fusion was devoted to find the energy using resonance.
01:35:46.000 Resonance.
01:35:47.000 Why?
01:35:49.000 How it works, cold fusion.
01:35:51.000 have two atoms of hydrogen, we start putting together these two atoms, but while we put together these two atoms, there are the atomic forces that tends to, no, I don't want to stay with the other atom.
01:36:14.000 But then there is a limit that the atoms fuse together and it transforms, they are transformed in helium plus energy because the mass difference.
01:36:27.000 And so you can do energy by fusion.
01:36:30.000 This is fusion, not cold fusion.
01:36:32.000 So you can have a fusion by forcing together the atoms that they don't want to stay together.
01:36:41.000 So the force, force together.
01:36:45.000 And that is hot.
01:36:46.000 Yes, that is hot fusion.
01:36:49.000 Cold fusion, you convince the two atoms to stay together naturally.
01:36:56.000 Okay?
01:36:58.000 So today.
01:37:00.000 What method do they use to convince these atoms to stay together naturally?
01:37:03.000 Yes.
01:37:04.000 You have to find a third material that convinces the two atoms to stay together.
01:37:12.000 Like you say, I have a couple.
01:37:14.000 You have a couple, a girl and a man.
01:37:16.000 They don't want to talk one to each other.
01:37:20.000 If you put a third person between them, at the center of them, and she and maybe a third person convince the man and the girl to speak together and they will speak together.
01:37:35.000 Okay?
01:37:36.000 So the third material, which is palladium, they use that palladium.
01:37:40.000 Palladium has the physical property to make speak together the two atoms and without force them, they naturally transform into helium and they generate energy because the helium has a mass lower than the two atoms.
01:38:01.000 With mass difference, you will generate energy.
01:38:06.000 And doing this at scale is really the holy grail of modern science.
01:38:10.000 This has always been the quest.
01:38:11.000 Yes.
01:38:12.000 So we have two paradigma: convincing something or obtaining the results using the force.
01:38:20.000 And so the street that you were speaking before, science had this street.
01:38:30.000 We want to have things by using force, not convincing.
01:38:36.000 Right, and that's where we are.
01:38:37.000 Yes.
01:38:37.000 That's nuclear power.
01:38:39.000 Nuclear energy.
01:38:39.000 Yes.
01:38:42.000 Because I tell you, today also hot nuclear fusion does not exist.
01:38:42.000 Yes.
01:38:54.000 Because it is very difficult to make a huge reactor that uses the tokamaks or something related to laser that uses, that forces together the atoms to is something not natural.
01:39:10.000 Cold fusion was natural.
01:39:12.000 And so the pyramids are something related to vibrations, to harmonic resonance, to something like that.
01:39:20.000 It is the right creation.
01:39:23.000 That was the past.
01:39:24.000 They were the right creation.
01:39:27.000 They were doing it the correct way.
01:39:28.000 Yes.
01:39:28.000 Instead of doing it against nature, they were doing it in harmony with nature.
01:39:31.000 In harmony with nature.
01:39:33.000 And in the universe.
01:39:34.000 And that's why all the dimensions are related to the constants of the universe.
01:39:39.000 The universe is like a book that is open.
01:39:42.000 We have to just observe it.
01:39:44.000 And it's not difficult.
01:39:45.000 It's very simple to read the universe.
01:39:48.000 Okay, show me more.
01:39:49.000 Show me more of this presentation.
01:39:52.000 What else do you have in here when you go from the cap with the sound resonating into the supposed sarcophagus?
01:40:01.000 What else?
01:40:01.000 Yes.
01:40:02.000 Yes, we can go to that slide.
01:40:09.000 This stuff is awesome.
01:40:10.000 This is my favorite subject by far.
01:40:12.000 Of all subjects, ancient history, in particularly ancient Egypt, is my favorite subject.
01:40:17.000 Okay, we stop to pink.
01:40:20.000 So undeniably interesting.
01:40:22.000 If we can go a slide up, here, look, here we are dealing with something that happened in 2022.
01:40:35.000 After our paper was published, because these results are on our first paper.
01:40:41.000 Look, Joe, that slide there, that picture you depict chambers that were previously not known.
01:40:52.000 Yeah.
01:40:53.000 That's the big void.
01:40:54.000 Right, the big void.
01:40:55.000 That's the big void.
01:40:56.000 And then there is the chevron connecting with the corridor, the base of the Grand Gallery.
01:41:07.000 That corridor was discovered six months later by Zagia Wass.
01:41:12.000 Wow.
01:41:14.000 They made the paper, but I depicted six months before.
01:41:22.000 So you let them know it was there.
01:41:23.000 And then you found it.
01:41:28.000 That's the corridor.
01:41:29.000 Yeah.
01:41:29.000 I don't want to say that I found it, but you found it.
01:41:33.000 I'll say it.
01:41:34.000 You found it.
01:41:35.000 So your technology showed something that turned out to be true and is now established.
01:41:42.000 Yes.
01:41:43.000 And again, how crazy is it they're just finding new chambers in the pyramids in the 21st century?
01:41:51.000 Pretty spectacular that they're just finding this now.
01:41:55.000 And just yesterday, I was to examine it again.
01:42:00.000 I don't have slides here, I am sorry.
01:42:03.000 But there are the results of the Scan Pyramid project.
01:42:07.000 The Scampyram Visual is very good.
01:42:11.000 It is a very nice project group.
01:42:17.000 And they discovered the so-called big void.
01:42:23.000 But there is a problem because they say the big void can be something parallel to the Grand Gallery.
01:42:32.000 Not steady, but inclined, like inclined.
01:42:35.000 In the next line, right.
01:42:37.000 Examinating the results, I was observing something.
01:42:44.000 Maybe, I say maybe, I can say that I am right of this.
01:42:50.000 Maybe they are confusing an inclined new chamber by the top of the.
01:43:00.000 They are distinguishing the top of the Grand Gallery and the bottom of the Grand Gallery, like that.
01:43:08.000 I observed the results, but in my personal opinion, the big void is not inclined, but it is located where there is that red blob there.
01:43:21.000 That's the Grand Gallery.
01:43:23.000 Yes, there and also up.
01:43:25.000 Yes, that's the Grand Gallery.
01:43:27.000 It is not inclined.
01:43:29.000 It's flat, like that, is how you say, is steady, not inclined.
01:43:34.000 Right.
01:43:36.000 That's the Grand Gallery.
01:43:37.000 Why do they think it's at an incline?
01:43:39.000 Because we are not seeing, we are not, my technique does not detect, is not detecting an inclined chamber on the top of the Grand Gallery.
01:43:51.000 Why do they think there's an incline?
01:43:53.000 Yes, because they found two targets parallel.
01:43:57.000 But I am feeling to tell them to be careful, because maybe they are confusing the roof of the Grand Gallery and the lower part of the Grand Gallery.
01:44:10.000 I see.
01:44:11.000 Okay.
01:44:12.000 They have to be careful.
01:44:14.000 Interesting.
01:44:15.000 But it's just also more evidence that your techniques are very effective and accurate.
01:44:22.000 Because you did describe this.
01:44:24.000 Yes.
01:44:25.000 We can see the results that I obtained on the Gran Sasso.
01:44:34.000 We can see the Grand Sasso and the laboratory of Granzaso.
01:44:37.000 That is a perfect benchmark that describes the effectiveness of my technique.
01:44:47.000 All right, show me some more.
01:44:48.000 What else you got here?
01:44:51.000 Show me another slide.
01:44:56.000 Below, I think.
01:44:57.000 Ah, okay, okay.
01:44:58.000 We go to Gubbio.
01:44:59.000 This is a town where I live.
01:45:03.000 I am.
01:45:04.000 This is Saxehuaman.
01:45:06.000 Sacohaman, yes.
01:45:07.000 This is Sacsohaman.
01:45:09.000 And here I am showing you the next work that we can do once the JISA scanning activity are finished.
01:45:20.000 So this is in Peru, correct?
01:45:23.000 Yes.
01:45:23.000 And so you want to scan this as well, because we've had quite a few people on describe this.
01:45:30.000 Look, Joe, the stones are like marshmallows.
01:45:33.000 Yes.
01:45:34.000 They are like marshmallows.
01:45:35.000 How they did those things there.
01:45:40.000 Enormous.
01:45:41.000 Some of them a hundred tons carved from stones that who knows how they put them into position, but they carved them in this very strange way to absorb the impact of earthquakes, right?
01:45:53.000 Yes.
01:45:54.000 The idea of this technology is that the reason why they're like a puzzle piece is because it would be much less likely to move in an intense earthquake.
01:46:04.000 Okay.
01:46:06.000 Go back Litepe. 0.99
01:46:07.000 E Gubbio, just a few words on this city that is a small town that is located in Perugia, where I live.
01:46:18.000 Look, the Italian, the authority of the city, of the town, asked me to perform a scanning around that Colosseum, that mini Colosseum that is located in Gubbio, because probably there is a huge Roman city, not so old, but it is a Roman city, that compounds that arena that is there.
01:46:46.000 So a lost Roman city that's around that area.
01:46:49.000 Yes, yes.
01:46:51.000 And I say hello to the people of Gubbio.
01:46:55.000 So is this the next thing that you're going to do?
01:46:58.000 One of the next things.
01:46:59.000 But Saxe Huaman. 0.87
01:46:59.000 One of the next. 0.87
01:47:00.000 Yeah, Saxa Huaman, yes.
01:47:02.000 Ah, and there is also Caracora, also.
01:47:06.000 Very interesting.
01:47:08.000 The slide 51, please.
01:47:12.000 Yes, yes.
01:47:14.000 Caracora, yes.
01:47:16.000 This is located in Russia, and there are huge structures inside there.
01:47:27.000 And this is in Russia.
01:47:29.000 Yes, yes.
01:47:30.000 And nobody knows the purpose of those things there.
01:47:33.000 Nobody.
01:47:34.000 It's crazy.
01:47:35.000 More than crazy.
01:47:38.000 And how big are these things?
01:47:39.000 Can you keep that up there?
01:47:42.000 Just keep this up just for a couple seconds.
01:47:44.000 I just like, how big are we?
01:47:46.000 What are we looking at here?
01:47:47.000 Yes, we have 9 plus 16 plus 7 plus 10 plus 36, and they go below, so maybe 2 or 300 meters below.
01:47:57.000 2 or 300 meters, and there's this immense rectangle at the bottom of these corridors.
01:48:03.000 And it goes more, more deeply.
01:48:06.000 And so nobody knows what there is.
01:48:09.000 And if you look at that image, it's clearly a man-made structure.
01:48:13.000 It's man-made, absolutely, yes.
01:48:14.000 I mean, look, they're stones, they're placed.
01:48:16.000 Yeah.
01:48:18.000 That is nuts.
01:48:19.000 That's crazy.
01:48:20.000 And there's no historical timeline, no understanding of who did it?
01:48:25.000 No.
01:48:26.000 Wow.
01:48:28.000 So it's likely that there's structures like this that exist that are undiscovered probably all over the world.
01:48:34.000 Yeah.
01:48:36.000 Yes.
01:48:37.000 The nice thing of this is this.
01:48:41.000 Satellites are global, globally.
01:48:45.000 So one satellite flies from, let's say, South Pole, North Pole, South Pole, like that.
01:48:54.000 Because of the angular momentum conservation, the let's say the wheel of the orbit remains steady.
01:49:05.000 And the Earth rotates inside this circle.
01:49:09.000 The circle remains steady like that.
01:49:12.000 So at least once a day, one satellite can observe potentially any part of the globe in one day.
01:49:22.000 So you can program snapshots where you want in all the Earth in one day.
01:49:29.000 And how many satellites are up there?
01:49:31.000 Ah, there are the satellites that contains on board of them a payload composed by a Syntega Veschur rather.
01:49:43.000 There are a lot.
01:49:44.000 There are different satellites, companies that provide these services.
01:49:51.000 So today it is possible to decide to observe something.
01:49:56.000 Okay.
01:49:57.000 I call the company and they purcase for me an image.
01:50:01.000 And this structure in Russia, how was this initially discovered?
01:50:05.000 Was it discovered by explorers?
01:50:07.000 Manually, by explorers.
01:50:08.000 Manually.
01:50:08.000 Yes.
01:50:09.000 And how did they get the dimensions of it?
01:50:10.000 Are people able to go all the way down into it?
01:50:13.000 That man, because there is only a man that went down because it's very narrow, but once you go down, everything becomes very huge and large.
01:50:25.000 Measure it manually, all those depths.
01:50:28.000 But more than then, you can't go because maybe it's too narrow.
01:50:33.000 I don't know.
01:50:35.000 Okay.
01:50:35.000 Did you find any images of that, Jamie, online?
01:50:37.000 I'm looking into something.
01:50:40.000 I'm stuck in a hole.
01:50:42.000 Hold on.
01:50:43.000 Someone was sort of saying that's in a different spot, and now I just try to track it down.
01:50:46.000 These are also weirdly only getting talked about over the last month, so I am digging down a different path.
01:50:53.000 When did they discover this?
01:50:55.000 I don't remember, Joe.
01:50:56.000 2011.
01:50:56.000 2011.
01:50:58.000 That's crazy.
01:50:59.000 The fact that they don't know who made it or why, but it is clearly man-made.
01:51:04.000 You're seeing these stones perfectly cut, stacked on top of each other.
01:51:08.000 Yes, and you have the same.
01:51:12.000 Oh, okay.
01:51:12.000 It says it's currently known from fringe social media and YouTube style sources rather than former archaeological publications because it hasn't been explored, correct?
01:51:21.000 Yeah, it's 15 years ago, though.
01:51:22.000 Yeah, pretty nuts.
01:51:24.000 But I mean, who's doing that kind of work in Russia, especially now?
01:51:27.000 Deep underground shaft lined with large parallel megalithic stone blocks with walls described as straight and polished suggest artificial construction rather than a natural cave or fissure.
01:51:39.000 And this is all from our sponsor, Perplexity, that we run all our questions through.
01:51:45.000 And it's always been very accurate.
01:51:47.000 Said to lie somewhere between in the Russian caucus, often simply described simply as North Caucasus or Caucas Mountains, with videos and posts presenting it as evidence of unknown or very ancient civilization with advanced stone working techniques.
01:52:03.000 Crazy that they don't know who made this.
01:52:06.000 There's no accessible peer-reviewed archaeological articles, official Russian heritage records, or academic monographs to describe a site formerly named the Karahora shaft.
01:52:17.000 Am I saying that right?
01:52:18.000 Karahora? 0.81
01:52:19.000 Karahora shaft.
01:52:20.000 Karahora shaft, which strongly suggests a claim has not been vetted by mainstream archaeology, but look, it exists.
01:52:27.000 Whether it's vetted or not, it doesn't matter.
01:52:29.000 Who made it?
01:52:30.000 What is it?
01:52:32.000 Nuts.
01:52:34.000 That's really crazy.
01:52:35.000 I had no idea that that existed.
01:52:38.000 And it's just, it makes you think, like, if they just found that in 2011.
01:52:43.000 Manually.
01:52:43.000 Right.
01:52:44.000 And maybe doing a wide research by satellites, maybe starting from there or other sites between that Karahora, maybe we will find other things.
01:52:57.000 Right.
01:52:57.000 It could be a part of an enormous complex.
01:53:00.000 I mean, who knows?
01:53:01.000 But just the fact that that exists and that a human made that or humans made that, that's crazy.
01:53:08.000 The whole thing is crazy.
01:53:09.000 Because it really does, like, anybody that, boy, modern archaeologists and people that are the gatekeepers of archaeological information are fighting an uphill battle.
01:53:17.000 Because like you can't, at a certain point in time, you have to give up and go, I don't know.
01:53:22.000 And that's an I don't know moment.
01:53:24.000 Yes, this is an I don't know.
01:53:26.000 What the hell is that?
01:53:27.000 What is that?
01:53:28.000 Show me some more images, Jamie, because it's really kooky.
01:53:31.000 The shaft?
01:53:32.000 Yeah, just what that looks like.
01:53:33.000 trying to it's I'm digging down a hole in it there's a post here on yes there are not so many like they're misinterpreting something This is Jay Anderson, who's been on the podcast recently.
01:53:45.000 This is the tweet I found.
01:53:46.000 How about some fast chain?
01:53:47.000 Karahora in the Cabardino, Balkria, Republic, North Caucasus, the Russian Federation is a different place from Karakoto.
01:53:59.000 So Kara Hora and Karakoto, so there's more than one place.
01:54:04.000 I'm just Googling stuff.
01:54:06.000 It all comes from this one video, it seems like, because everyone's pointing to this video, and this video is compiled of all sorts of stuff.
01:54:13.000 It's got 3 million views from 2024, so I can see how it went viral, you know?
01:54:19.000 But it starts off with just showing that, and I don't, you know.
01:54:23.000 So this is probably the entry to this area.
01:54:25.000 Maybe, but again, no one knows.
01:54:27.000 They can't tell you where that is on a map.
01:54:30.000 Right.
01:54:30.000 Got it.
01:54:31.000 Look how precise they are.
01:54:33.000 So this might be.
01:54:36.000 It could be real, could be non-sensitive.
01:54:36.000 Yeah.
01:54:36.000 Who knows?
01:54:38.000 Well, the images of that guy standing there looking outside of that opening that you showed earlier in your presentation is just bananas.
01:54:46.000 But whatever this is, is precisely.
01:54:48.000 But that's where I don't know where it's from.
01:54:49.000 You know, it could be.
01:54:50.000 Right.
01:54:51.000 Do they have any video of once they got all the way down through?
01:54:54.000 So here.
01:54:55.000 Okay, let's keep going.
01:54:56.000 See what it looks like.
01:54:59.000 And I don't even know.
01:55:02.000 Yeah, so someone else has done narration on it.
01:55:06.000 It's coming from a different channel.
01:55:08.000 I can see a tag on there.
01:55:09.000 It's coming from a different show.
01:55:10.000 God, look at the right angles, though.
01:55:12.000 This is nuts.
01:55:13.000 Yes.
01:55:14.000 I mean, it clearly looks like something man-made.
01:55:18.000 Look how precise it is.
01:55:19.000 Yeah.
01:55:20.000 It's crazy.
01:55:21.000 That's man-made.
01:55:21.000 It's absolutely man-made.
01:55:25.000 There are also a comparison with the dimensions of the dimensions.
01:55:30.000 Wow.
01:55:31.000 What the hell is that?
01:55:36.000 What the hell is that?
01:55:37.000 It's crazy.
01:55:37.000 And they found it in 2011.
01:55:39.000 I mean, imagine how much more of this stuff.
01:55:39.000 Yeah.
01:55:42.000 I mean, that's one of the things about Gobekli Tepe.
01:55:44.000 They've only observed 5% of it.
01:55:47.000 I mean, 5% of it they've uncovered.
01:55:50.000 And through ground-penetrating radar, they know of multiple sites nearby.
01:55:53.000 Yes, but ground-penetrated radar has a problem.
01:55:56.000 What is the problem?
01:55:57.000 The problem of ground-penetrating radar is the penetration depth is a few meters enough.
01:56:05.000 So there is a problem of penetration depth, but in that depth, you are very precise.
01:56:12.000 So you have to take into account that more than 15, 20 meters below, you can't go.
01:56:19.000 Right.
01:56:20.000 But using that method, they have found all these structures that exist.
01:56:25.000 It's a good method for in situ exploration, yes.
01:56:30.000 And so you can find nice things with using ground-penetrating radar.
01:56:34.000 If you want to perform a wide area, rough, let's say, rough scanning, you can use my method.
01:56:46.000 So you can find huge things on wide area.
01:56:51.000 For the details, it's okay, ground-penetrating radar.
01:56:55.000 Is there anything else you want to show us that's in your presentation that you think?
01:56:58.000 Okay.
01:56:59.000 Show me some more stuff.
01:57:00.000 Yes.
01:57:00.000 It's a pleasure.
01:57:01.000 Yeah, please.
01:57:02.000 It's a pleasure for me, too.
01:57:03.000 Thank you.
01:57:03.000 Thank you for being here.
01:57:05.000 Okay.
01:57:06.000 Thank you for inviting me.
01:57:07.000 Karahora.
01:57:08.000 Is that how you say it?
01:57:09.000 Karakora Kora.
01:57:11.000 Karakora.
01:57:11.000 Karakora.
01:57:13.000 So this is Karakora.
01:57:14.000 So that image, go back one more time to Karakora.
01:57:17.000 So that's a legitimate image.
01:57:18.000 That's not AI generated.
01:57:20.000 Oh, this is these guys standing in clearly what looks like megalithic stones stacked on top of each other.
01:57:28.000 Clearly man-made.
01:57:30.000 Yes, clearly, because look, you see the blocks.
01:57:33.000 Yeah, you see the blocks.
01:57:34.000 It's fucking nuts.
01:57:36.000 No, but okay, we can understand that it's possible, maybe it's possible to build something like that.
01:57:42.000 Sure, it's possible.
01:57:43.000 It's the purpose.
01:57:44.000 Right.
01:57:45.000 The purpose and when and who and what civilization.
01:57:48.000 Like, who did that?
01:57:48.000 Right.
01:57:49.000 That's that is insane.
01:57:52.000 What even is that?
01:57:53.000 What even is that?
01:57:54.000 Yeah.
01:57:56.000 I mean, there's ropes that go across, and that's what you're seeing.
01:57:59.000 And you're seeing this.
01:58:00.000 Where's his arm and where does the rope go to?
01:58:02.000 Well, he's got his arm posted on the side of that wall, and that rope goes across, and you're just not seeing it because of the darkness.
01:58:08.000 Is that like he's leaning against something there, too?
01:58:11.000 It looks like he's got his hand on that wall, that opening.
01:58:14.000 There's an opening in that shaft.
01:58:16.000 So what else is next in this, in this presentation?
01:58:20.000 Okay.
01:58:21.000 Which way should I go?
01:58:23.000 Okay, we go upstairs.
01:58:24.000 Let's see.
01:58:26.000 Go back it up.
01:58:27.000 Then we have Gubbio.
01:58:29.000 And here we have the Osiris shafts.
01:58:31.000 We use this shaft, the OSIRIS shaft, like a benchmark because we are able to understand the effectiveness of our technique that is able to retrive the shape of the OSIRIS shaft.
01:58:44.000 Why the Osiris shaft?
01:58:45.000 Because it's a benchmark that we know exactly how it is established and so it accurately depicts the Osiris shaft.
01:58:54.000 Yes, yes.
01:58:57.000 What else?
01:58:58.000 Okay, let's go there.
01:59:00.000 Okay.
01:59:03.000 43.
01:59:04.000 43.
01:59:05.000 Yes.
01:59:06.000 This is the Sangotar tunnel.
01:59:10.000 And here I made an exploration using my technique in order to retrive the shape of the railway tunnel.
01:59:20.000 That it is approximately two kilometers below the mountain.
01:59:27.000 And the slide 44, we can understand that in this case the Alps, the mountain, resonates like a crystal.
01:59:38.000 So you are seeing, you are watching the mountain in the vibrational domain.
01:59:43.000 So it's like a photograph, a photo picked up or synthesized by sound.
01:59:54.000 And in that case, we can see the slide 45 and 46.
02:00:00.000 We are detecting the tunnel.
02:00:03.000 The tunnel, yes, that's the railway tunnel that is located below the earth.
02:00:08.000 Wow.
02:00:11.000 So this is just more proof of the accuracy of the technique.
02:00:15.000 Yes.
02:00:15.000 Yes.
02:00:18.000 This is some really stunning stuff.
02:00:20.000 Yes, I can explain you other experiments.
02:00:23.000 We can go starting from slide 36.
02:00:29.000 Okay, slide 36.
02:00:30.000 This is a dam, and it is a very important dam.
02:00:35.000 It is the Mosul dam that is located in Iraq.
02:00:42.000 It's very huge, it's 300 meters tall, has a height of 300 meters and 3 kilometers from one part to the other part of the dam.
02:00:53.000 So it contains a huge amount of water from the upper side, there is the water, that contains, and below there there is the river that the water comes out of from the reservoir that is on top.
02:01:12.000 Why the Musul Dam?
02:01:13.000 The Musul Dam has a problem.
02:01:16.000 It has been built on a a bed of Jeep gesso, how you say Jepsum, Jepsum.
02:01:24.000 Yes.
02:01:25.000 And the Jeepsum is While it is in contact with water, it melts.
02:01:33.000 So the muscle dam is dangerous because it has a serious problem of stabilization.
02:01:41.000 In this case, there are a lot of satellites methods and synthetic virtual rather methods that are devoted to perform the so-called infrastructure monitoring.
02:01:55.000 And in this case, the muscle dam is crucial to be observed by radar.
02:02:01.000 In this case, I wanted to see this slide 37, please.
02:02:08.000 Here, inside the dam, look, there is a tunnel, the red line, the tunnel.
02:02:17.000 And here we have people that are working inside the tunnel.
02:02:26.000 And the task was, my technique is with my technique, it's possible to detect the tunnel.
02:02:33.000 We go in slide 38, okay, and we see on the right top there is the tunnel.
02:02:42.000 Just to explain you, where you see red, the vibration energy is high, so is red.
02:02:48.000 When you see blue, the vibration energy is low, it's low.
02:02:54.000 And inside the tunnel, because you have the air, you don't have vibration, so it's low.
02:03:01.000 And so you see the tunnel.
02:03:05.000 And so we were also able to detect slide 39, also the principal facility that are located inside the dam, which are the turbines, the turbines, the turbines, and other stuff, and all the mechanical machines.
02:03:27.000 This is all the mechanical machines that are located inside.
02:03:31.000 Alright, so it's showing the accurate shape of the turbines as well.
02:03:34.000 So this is just more proof that this technique works.
02:03:36.000 Yes.
02:03:37.000 And so we go slide 31.
02:03:41.000 On slide 31.
02:03:42.000 Okay, this is the Gran Sasso.
02:03:45.000 How nice is this?
02:03:46.000 It's for me very nice because I born here.
02:03:49.000 This is the particle collider.
02:03:51.000 Yeah.
02:03:51.000 Inside the mountain, in the core of the mountain, there is the laboratory here.
02:03:58.000 And the task was: can I detect the facility that is inside the mountain?
02:04:08.000 And so we are now in the slide 32 and 33.
02:04:16.000 Okay.
02:04:17.000 And we can see the facility that is ENFN is the Istituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare.
02:04:27.000 You see the shape of it in there?
02:04:28.000 Yeah, National Institute of Nuclear Physics, the Italian National Institute of Nuclear Physics.
02:04:36.000 And that's more than a kilometer deep into the mountain.
02:04:38.000 1.4.
02:04:39.000 And yes, and slide 35, we can see the laboratory.
02:04:48.000 Yeah, this is the laboratory.
02:04:48.000 Wow.
02:04:50.000 That's crazy.
02:04:52.000 That's crazy.
02:04:54.000 So using your techniques, you get an accurate depiction of the dimensions of this laboratory.
02:05:01.000 Yeah.
02:05:01.000 Wow.
02:05:02.000 And that triangle is called the interferometer.
02:05:07.000 So when you have two lasers that go together and you can study the pattern, the interference pattern that coherent signals are generating, you can use an interferometer.
02:05:23.000 And that's the interferometer.
02:05:25.000 Wow.
02:05:28.000 This is all amazing stuff.
02:05:30.000 It's amazing.
02:05:31.000 And I feel like we're at the beginning of a very fascinating journey.
02:05:35.000 You know, and I think that your work and this research and all the controversy is good.
02:05:35.000 Yeah.
02:05:41.000 All the controversy around it is just going to make more people talk about it, more people discuss it, and more people understand.
02:05:47.000 And it just seems to me that the more they research it, the more the mystery opens up.
02:05:51.000 And that it is, without a doubt, one of the most astounding discoveries in human history.
02:05:56.000 Yes.
02:05:57.000 So take your job.
02:05:59.000 Congratulations on discovering it.
02:06:01.000 And thank you so much for all your hard work because, I mean, like I said, it's to me one of the most fascinating subjects.
02:06:08.000 And, you know, what Graham always speaks of is that we are a species with amnesia.
02:06:13.000 Yes.
02:06:13.000 And I agree with this.
02:06:16.000 And, you know, it's one of the reasons why so many people are mad at him because he was right.
02:06:20.000 He was right in the 1990s.
02:06:23.000 And as time goes on, he is being proven more and more to be correct.
02:06:28.000 And things just seem to keep getting older.
02:06:30.000 Yes.
02:06:31.000 It's amazing.
02:06:32.000 Thank you so much for being here.
02:06:33.000 I really appreciate your time and I appreciate your work.
02:06:36.000 Thank you for inviting me.
02:06:38.000 Let's do it again when more stuff comes out.
02:06:38.000 My pleasure.
02:06:40.000 All right.
02:06:40.000 Okay.
02:06:41.000 I'm here.
02:06:42.000 If anybody wants to find more about this, where would you send them to?
02:06:46.000 Is there a website that would give them more information if they want to do a deep dive?
02:06:50.000 Yes.
02:06:52.000 I have a personal website, which is harmonicsar.com, and I publish synthetic aperture radar is SAR.
02:07:03.000 So harmonicsar.com.
02:07:05.000 Yes.
02:07:06.000 Filippo Biondi.
02:07:07.000 I'm in.
02:07:08.000 You're the man.
02:07:09.000 Thank you.
02:07:09.000 Thank you, sir.
02:07:10.000 I really appreciate you.
02:07:11.000 All right.
02:07:11.000 Thank you.