In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe interviews the man at the head of the research group that is looking at the structures that are underneath the top of the pyramid. Dr. Corrado Malanga, who is a professor of chemistry at the University of Pisa, joins us to talk about his research and how it has changed the way we see the world.
00:00:49.000And yes, the group is composed by Corrado Malanga, which is the head of the group and the dean, a professor of chemistry at the University of Pisa.
00:01:02.000Can you explain your background, please, so people would understand?
00:02:56.000And I was involved in some research where together with the Italian Research Council of Bari, always south of Italy, we were testing some special processing that were able to perform something special.
00:04:09.000And this focusing procedure, let's say it in the Azimuth, I take it easy, in the Azimuth direction, is done by sound, by the processing of sound, because it is involved at the so-called Doppler frequency.
00:04:24.000You know, Joe, when you hear noises that are approaching to you, this noise will rise the frequency because the target has a velocity, a positive velocity, with respect to you.
00:04:41.000And this procedure allows us to estimate or to grab, let's say, the vibration information that is always present at the surface of the Earth in terms of a vanishing waves that are present on the surface of the earth.
00:04:59.000So this vibration, which is mechanical vibration, carries inside of this the information that is located underground.
00:05:42.000And so we were talking about something that if there were some methods able to scan inside the pyramids because he needed some information to conclude the research that he was doing.
00:06:00.000And so I proposed him to use my technique and we started to work together.
00:06:07.000And so we focused in that time on the pyramids.
00:06:11.000And when was this, when was the first scans?
00:06:20.000And when you got the data back, did you immediately get the data that you're showing today, where you see the columns with the coils around it?
00:06:30.000Let's say that this research can be divided by two.
00:06:34.000The first one, 1.0, we were concentrating research on the Khnum Kufu pyramid, the Chaops pyramid, to watch inside the pyramid.
00:06:45.000And so we have detailed, tailored our processing to watch only inside the pyramids, because that pyramid, only one pyramid, because we were doing that kind of research.
00:07:00.000Then once we discovered things in 2020, we published the peer-review paper and we gave public the results that we found inside the Khnum Kufu pyramid, we decided to expand our research in all the GISA plateau.
00:07:22.000Can I summarize when you looked inside?
00:07:25.000So we know quite a bit about the Khufu pyramid and what the chambers are inside of it.
00:07:29.000Did this technology accurately describe the pyramid itself and the insides of it, the chambers that we know exist?
00:07:38.000Because we have detected this multi-layer structure that is inside the Khnum Kufu pyramid, the so-called Z.
00:07:45.000We have discovered it very well from the space and it is located inside the pyramid.
00:07:53.000And also we discovered a new, no, we discovered it, we gave an image also of the other known structures like the Grand Gallery, the Grand Gallery, and then also the Queen's chamber and the King's chamber also.
00:08:16.000And accurate in terms of size and dimension.
00:08:28.000We decided to focus below the pyramid because our intention was to expand our research.
00:08:39.000And then also thanks to the third component of the research group, which is Armando May, he suggests us to expand our research and scan all the GISO plateau.
00:08:52.000And so what date was it that you discovered these immense columns with the coils around it and all those structures that are underneath the pyramid?
00:09:51.000I told also Corrado was with me because we had those results in our desk without disclosure or anything for six months.
00:10:08.000Because my opinion was that was not real.
00:10:16.000I was thinking that maybe it was noise or some artifacts due by our processing procedures.
00:10:27.000Did give you pause at all that they were so uniform, that these columns were in very specific places and that they lined up, there was a uniform gap in between them?
00:11:21.000So once we had the same results, while we were using American satellites called the Capella Space and also other satellites, having always the same results, we decided to disclose.
00:11:36.000How many different scans have been done on this area?
00:11:40.000Two or three hundred to more than two hundred.
00:11:49.000There's a lot of resistance to this, and it's from the usual characters, and it's from people that I would characterize as gatekeepers of archaeological information.
00:12:02.000And unfortunately, they are not willing to approach this with an open mind.
00:12:09.000And you see this skepticism that just seems to me to be confirmation bias.
00:12:14.000They want this to not be true, regardless of the sheer number of scans and the uniformity of the results of these scans.
00:12:23.000And also the fact that this stuff has been proven to work on other things.
00:12:28.000Like, didn't you guys use this exact technology to get the exact dimensions of a particle collider that you have?
00:12:36.000Yes, you have a particle collider where I have born in L'Aquila, which is located in the center of Italy, at the center of Italy.
00:12:46.000There is a huge mountain called Gran Sasso, the Gran Sasso d'Italia, which has a maximum altitude of about 3,000 meters for being precise to 993 meters.
00:13:04.000And so there is a tunnel, very, very long tunnel, about 11, 12 kilometers.
00:13:14.000And in the core of this mountain, there is a particle collider.
00:13:17.000There is a laboratory, let's say, like that.
00:13:20.000And this technology got the exact dimensions of this particle collider that's deep in this mountain.
00:15:25.000Which, you know, he's an engineer, and he said it appears that this thing is some sort of a mechanical thing and that it's probably designed to generate some kind of power.
00:15:50.000And so this discoveries matches a lot with his and also to other scientists that make recast the effective purpose of the pyramid not to be tombs.
00:16:14.000And what is truly spectacular is that if this data is accurate, those immense structures that have baffled mankind forever are just the tip of the iceberg.
00:16:27.000And underneath it, you have these immense structures that we have not yet fully explored, but you have data that shows that let's look at the images.
00:16:52.000And what kind of technology would allow them to not just construct the pyramids, which is absolutely baffling.
00:16:59.000But if this structure that is underneath the pyramids is accurately described by your work, we're looking at something that is going to have to change our entire perspective on the history of humanity.
00:17:11.000Yes, I agree with you, Joe, because what we found, it is something that has been confirmed by our measurements.
00:17:20.000And at the moment, I suppose that our measurements are the only data that we have, because there aren't other data.
00:17:30.000So what we are observing, we are observing principally vertical structure.
00:17:38.000This vertical structure has a pattern, a regular pattern, and this regular pattern is constituted by a so-called spiral nature.
00:19:17.000Some of the images online are recreations of what is observed and what you believe this could look like underneath, correct?
00:19:28.000We have performed measurements and they are sound measurements that are that has been picked up from the surface of the earth by satellites.
00:19:39.000So they are very precise and they are coherent.
00:19:42.000Coherent it means that contains a lot of information.
00:19:46.000So it is characterized to have high entropy.
00:19:51.000And so when we perform the so-called tomographic inversion, we can see what there is underneath.
00:20:49.000The 3D model has been retrieved, not observing just only one result, but observing a lot of results.
00:21:01.000So putting on a table all the results that we have, we were able to retrive, so to facilitate people to read our measurements.
00:21:12.000So observing the results, we were able to determine the spirals and the structures that are located, starting from the base of the CAFRA pyramid going down.
00:21:26.000I've seen other images of the scans that are more convincing than the one that's below.
00:21:30.000So let's see if we can find some of those.
00:22:11.000And below the structure, at the end of the structures, there are huge chambers, but they are really huge, approximately having a width and a length and a height of 80 meters.
00:22:28.000So 80-meter structures that are below all this.
00:22:32.000So almost the size of a football field below all this, that is some sort of a chamber.
00:23:25.000Okay, regular pattern, and the coils are beginning to be seen there on the third image.
00:23:33.000Here, regular pattern, go down, please.
00:23:37.000And here, this is, in my personal opinion, the fourth image from the left to the right, the fifth image, one, two, three, four, the fourth image, I'm sorry, where you have a core at the center of the coil, at the center of the structure,
00:24:03.000and then we have something that spirals down.
00:24:09.000So, has anybody speculated about what this could possibly be, like what these coils are?
00:24:15.000Yes, I spoke with two independent, with let's say with some independent researchers, and especially with Christopher Nann.
00:24:29.000And also, I spoke also with Jeffrey that is considering also the GISA power plan like chemical reactors or something like that.
00:24:45.000So, we have on one side scientists that say, okay, can be something related to electricity, or we have something related to chemicals or other things.
00:25:01.000In my personal opinion, me, I can see anything, I can say anything, because I just measured what there is there.
00:25:11.000So, it is not my, how you say, my job to do this.
00:25:15.000My job is, okay, here we have the measurements, and now we have to see what there is inside.
00:25:22.000In my personal opinion, this is the right time to say, okay, let's go there and see what there is.
00:25:40.000If you want, I can tell you about this.
00:25:43.000Okay, because it is a very important project, research project that I am working now, and it is something that if it could be possible, we can go there and without digging anything, we can go below.
00:28:31.000When you look at it like this, when you see your 3D recreation of the site, it's stunning.
00:28:38.000Because it just makes you think, what is this?
00:28:44.000I mean, I can understand the skepticism and I can understand the resistance to this that modern academics have.
00:28:51.000Because this throws a giant monkey wrench into everything.
00:28:56.000This makes everything we know about that area thrown into question.
00:29:03.000Because if this is true, like I said, this rewrites history.
00:29:08.000Because you're dealing with an advanced civilization that is demonstrably more advanced than us.
00:29:16.000Yes, because they were able to build very precise things, but not at the surface of the earth below.
00:29:28.000Well, they even built a lot of precise things that confuse us.
00:29:32.000Like, one of the things that Christopher Dunn gave me is this.
00:29:35.000It's the recreation of the vase of one of the many vases that they have that is accurate in its way it was made down to God, what was the number?
00:29:50.000A thousandth of a human hair or something crazy like that?
00:29:53.000Like much less than a human hair in the diameter, in the uniformity of it, in the fact that it was carved out of this incredibly hard stone at a time where there was no metal alloys.
00:30:44.000There's a lot of very strange calculations that they were able to make, like pathways where the sun during the solar equinox passes right through.
00:30:58.000When you started acquiring this data and you started accumulating it and then started going over it with experts, what did that feel like to you when you're realizing, oh, this is real?
00:31:15.000It was something that was very nice for me because when we dis the thing was, I Was saying always to Gorrado Gorado, shall we disclose this or not?
00:32:55.000A lot of the banking, a lot of people that know it's not true, it's not true.
00:33:00.000A lot of people that were continuing to say, no, radar can penetrate the earth for one kilometer.
00:33:09.000And they didn't know, or they purposely not saying this, that we are not penetrating anything, because we are just grabbing the entropy that is on the surface of the earth.
00:33:22.000And with that information, we are retrieving tomographies.
00:33:26.000It's something new that I invented, but it works because we have benchmarks that demonstrate the effectiveness of the method.
00:34:10.000There are companies related to mining and crude oil extraction and then also water.
00:34:21.000Joe, today we are leaving a particular time because water is very important.
00:34:28.000We are in a so-called water emergency in all the world.
00:34:32.000So for me, the first thing that we have to do is to scan the earth and to fetch, to find, to try and find other, let's say, opportunity to extract not salty water, because it's very important.
00:34:51.000So you'll be using this technology for that as well.
00:34:53.000For now, not, but I'm thinking to do it.
00:35:57.000And we will have a foundation in Malta.
00:36:00.000And with that foundation, we can operate also philanthropically for the JISA Plateau and other ancient megalithics that are located in all the world.
00:36:27.000Have you looked at the labyrinths underneath the ones that were described by Herodotus that Ben Van Kirkwick has been talking about and his Uncharted X channel, where there is a huge atrium with a 40-meter metallic object that's a shape of a tic-tac and a map?
00:36:45.000Yes, they asked me to do it, and we will do it.
00:37:22.000Now, are you absolutely convinced that this data is accurate, or have any of the criticisms of any of the people that are trying to debunk it, has any of that resonated with you and rang true?
00:37:34.000Is there any validity to any of the criticisms?
00:39:19.000These structures and this whole area, if this turns out to be something that you don't find just at the Giza Plateau, but around other parts of Egypt, I mean, there's always been a lot of speculation as to whether or not a civilization existed in sub-Saharan Africa, an advanced civilization that are now sand.
00:39:41.000You could probably do that same sort of research there as well.
00:39:44.000Yes, I agree with this, and we will do it.
00:40:29.000It is time to go ahead and go on the Giza Plateau and in person I wish to see the effective structure, how they are and the purpose of all the plateau, what it is.
00:40:48.000And is there plans to do that in person, to do some sort of an excavation?
00:41:22.000We are involving the University of Ferrara, principal scientist, Professor Risa Vaccaro, Italian professor, she is a geologist, and other and other governmental, Italian governmental institutions that are very clever to do scans, in situ scans.
00:41:52.000We use the state-of-the-art technique that it is recognized by science today.
00:42:00.000And our intention is to concentrate the efforts on those shafts that I showed you, that we have seen, because we are not 99% convinced that, or sure, that those are natural entrances into the structures that are below, that are located below.
00:42:29.000Because we have the vertical structures and you saw on the tomographies, you have also horizontal connections.
00:44:33.000Have you reached out to any like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk type people that have tons of money that might be interested in doing something like this?
00:45:36.000Yeah, and that way you can get accurate real-time video and with cameras and it will be something, I am thinking about this.
00:45:48.000Maybe it's one of the most ancient megalitic structures that we are dealing now can be recovered by the most modern technology that we have now today.
00:46:00.000And so we can recover it, modern and ancient together.
00:46:04.000So you have been giving this presentation now and even going around.
00:46:30.000It is better than that University of Ferrara, that is one of the most important universities in Italy, can stay there and manage all the work.
00:47:03.000So how you explain it to these when you have these semi-sceptical scientists that are sitting down there and you're going to tell them, I'm about to rewrite human history.
00:47:14.000Oh, they were they were listening me very well and they asking me uh things uh uh about uh how the uh everyone um the first thing that they ask me is how it works and that's good.
00:47:27.000And so I slowly explain ex explain them how it works and how I arrived to to to make this presentation so to have our results and uh and so and so on.
00:47:41.000And they they they someone of them is skeptical, someone a bit less skeptical.
00:49:04.000Our rights are to clean them and see what there is and go down and explore them personally.
00:49:13.000Well, it just seems like if these shafts exist alone and they are at that depth that you describe and they are the dimensions you describe, it really does lend credence to what you're saying.
00:49:24.000Because it seems like there's a purpose for those things.
00:49:27.000And if they do go down to the area where all these structures are, it seems like there's something there.
00:49:33.000In my personal opinion, they were built purposely.
00:50:21.000Show me some other slides and other things that are in your presentation so you can get a more comprehensive understanding of what we're looking at.
00:55:01.000If you just wanted to get crazy and put on the tinfoil hat and speculate, what do you think it was?
00:55:07.000I mean, what would happen to a person if they encountered this kind of vibration, these kind of frequencies in this resonating granite box?
00:55:18.000I can say something that is not scientific recognizable.
00:56:37.000He also had a theory that perhaps the lower chamber that's below the pyramid itself, that there was some mechanical device inside of there that was generating vibration.
00:57:12.000Do you imagine if this entire structure was just built so that someone could have some sort of a bizarre out-of-body experience or psychedelic gateway experience?
00:57:24.000I think it's psychedelic Disney World.
00:58:01.000But you'd see that giant castle and there's rides everywhere and you would have no idea what the experience of that ride would have been like.
00:58:09.000It's fun for kids, but also would make them feel amazing, but also adding what this vibration stuff does and sound and music and all these other things.
00:58:19.000You could put them all together and be like, you could feel like a god.
00:58:28.000It's an interesting idea because you think people have always been fascinated by achieving novel experiences.
00:58:35.000And what more novel experience than a 2,300,000 stone structure that's perfectly aligned to true north, south, east, and west, aligns to the stars of Orion's belt.
00:58:47.000You lie inside a stone box and the vibrations hit you and you're in that box, boom, Naturally, you go out of the body.
00:58:58.000Who knows what it does to the body and the mind, because we know that the mind is capable of producing endogenous psychedelic chemicals.
00:59:05.000We also know that people have a very profound reaction to frequencies.
00:59:09.000That's why sound hits us so hard and we love music and just vibration itself.
00:59:14.000And this sound weapon that they just recently used in Venezuela, supposedly to knock out all Maduro's troops.
00:59:29.000I am relatively sure that the principal actor of everything can be water vibrations, so sound, sound.
00:59:46.000But we are dealing now to the third thing.
00:59:51.000So the purpose, the exact purpose of this.
00:59:55.000Maybe it can be also one more than one purpose, more than one scopus of the pyramids.
01:00:06.000The pyramids intended to be, now I am 100% convinced that the pyramids can be considered the tip of the iceberg of something very huge that is composed by things that are below the earth and the pyramids that are up at the surface of the earth.
01:00:31.000So what do you think the reason for the design of the pyramid in that specific geometric shape?
01:00:39.000Yes, probably because they have to resonate with the universe.
01:00:44.000In some, they have to resonate with the universe.
01:01:21.000So the velocity, the speed of the light, C three times ten to the eight kilometers per second.
01:01:31.000Then you have, so the velocity of the light, so you have the electric constants, the magnetic constants that are that arranges very well the law of the universe.
01:01:43.000So it is important that something that has to be well related to the place that we live, to the universe, has to contain very precisely the dimensions of recasting the constants of the universe.
01:02:05.000And that's what you think the pyramids did?
01:04:41.000This is something that I actually just talked to Graham Hancock about.
01:04:45.000This is Stella, is a limestone inscription discovered in 1858 near the Great Pyramid complex at Giza.
01:04:50.000And the text describes a pharaoh Khufu who ruled from 2589 to 2566 BC visiting the site and ordering restorations to existing structures, including a temple associated with the goddess Isis.
01:05:06.000The stela refers to Isis as the mistress of the pyramid, a title that has raised questions about whether parts of the Giza Plateau were already considered sacred before Khufu's reign.
01:05:17.000And although most Egyptologists date the stela itself to the 26th dynasty, more than 2,000 years after Khufu, its wording continues to draw attention because it portrays the pharaoh as a restorer rather than the original builder.
01:05:32.000Whether the inscription provides older tradition or reflects later religious interpretation remains debated.
01:05:37.000But if this is accurate, this describes Khufu as restoring the pyramids.
01:06:04.000There was some sort of a previous civilization that lived in Mexico prior to the people that called themselves the Aztecs or what we call the Aztecs.
01:06:13.000So there's a long-standing history of people repurposing existing structures and claiming them as their own.
01:06:21.000And if this stela is accurate, and this was also in Fingerprints of the Gods, Graham Hancock's book.
01:06:27.000So I sent this to Graham, and his reaction was pretty interesting.
01:06:31.000What he said to me was that There's a strong suggestion that the Khufu Pyramid might have been one of the three subsidiary structures alongside the Great Pyramid's eastern flank, and all that looked like damaging evidence against the orthodox chronology of ancient Egypt.
01:06:49.000It also challenged the consensus view that the Giza pyramids had been built as tombs and only as tombs.
01:06:56.000However, rather than investigating the statements from the Stella, the Egypt childifs, they chose to devalue them in his quotes.
01:07:08.000They chose to say, ah, that's just inconvenient.
01:07:11.000But if they are describing it that way, it seems like this is a long-standing tradition of people finding things that exist.
01:07:22.000There's clearly ancient Egypt itself, dynastic Egypt, is a very complex society, very complex and very advanced society, even if they didn't build that stuff.
01:07:33.000But it seems like they're saying the restorer.
01:07:41.000I tell you, there are some facts that we have to observe, because I am used to observing.
01:07:50.000Before I say something, I have to observe.
01:07:55.000So I'm not, I say, an expert of pyramids, because I am an engineer, I work on satellites, I am a space engineer, I'm not an Egyptologist like that.
01:09:35.000I put myself in the center between 36,000 and 11,000.
01:09:41.000See if you can find some images of salt in the Great Pyramids, because it is quite fascinating.
01:09:48.000And if there was some sort of a massive rise of sea and massive flooding, which is depicted in every single ancient religion, from Epic of Gilgamesh to the Hopi talk about it.
01:10:03.000I mean, it's like almost all cultures have a story.
01:10:06.000Obviously, Noah and the Ark and the flood in the Bible, but this salt.
01:10:12.000Joe, two months ago I went for the first time to visit the pyramids and I found salt on the wall.
01:10:59.000And that's why the reason that I don't want that people goes to work inside the shaft because they're dangerous, can collapse the debris, can collapse, because you can have a bubble of air, and so it's dangerous.
01:11:55.000And when Robert Schock from Boston University, the geologist that started doing work on the pyramid and then, excuse me, the Temple of the Sphinx.
01:13:01.000It just really does seem like we are getting more and more evidence that things are far older than conventional wisdom, than conventional, the conventional narrative that's taught in schools.
01:14:01.000And if we see the rooms, all the structures that are currently inside, let's say the Chaos Pyramid, which I like it a lot, the Grand Gallery is very nice, fascinating.
01:14:14.000They have a precision, incredible precision.
01:14:17.000All those big, huge stones that is composing the Grand Gallery is very exciting.
01:14:27.000Did you have uh any sort of fascination about the pyramids before this?
01:14:33.000Or Joe, I remember when I was young, very young, I used to uh I had a it uh how you say I had a sm a personal computer, very old one, and I was always playing all always on a on something that uh and there was the pyramids, they were all the pyramids.
01:15:01.000And there in that meantime, I I realized that uh I liked the pyramids.
01:15:47.000And so when you start to research on something that is our history, our past, our origins, because our origins are there.
01:16:01.000So we have to fetch, we have to find what there is there because it is important to research our origin because in this meantime, humanity does not know, we don't know who we are.
01:16:39.000And if these humans were far more ancient than we currently believe, that is really, really interesting.
01:16:47.000And it is for me, it is something that I have always in my mind, only to know how they did, how they cut the stones, how they have transported the stones, and how, I don't know, how, how, how, everything.
01:18:19.000Well, it seems like there's limited resources, first of all.
01:18:24.000And also it seems like Egypt, an entire economy is based on tourism, an immense amount of tourism, because it's so fantastic.
01:18:34.000People from all over the world make a pilgrimage.
01:18:37.000I also find a method to combine, so not stopping the tourism.
01:18:46.000So it is possible to combine the work and also the tourism.
01:18:49.000So we can delimitate the area inside the area we work, and outside the area, safety.
01:18:56.000All the people can visit the pyramid, the GISA plateau.
01:18:58.000And not only that, I think it will enhance tourism.
01:19:01.000Because if this speculation proves to be fruitful and you start looking under there and you find that there is evidence to all this, it's just going to make more people want to go there.
01:19:12.000But you imagine, Joe, we will find the structures that are underneath.
01:19:20.000And maybe we can try to build a huge lift that carry people downstairs in safety always.
01:19:28.000Or maybe not below for a lot, but at a certain depth, so they can also travel along the horizontal corridors that are present.
01:19:39.000And so they go up from the shafts and they go up to the Kafre pyramid and they go away from the entrance here and they go intercepting the pyramids.
01:22:45.000There's a thing called the Younger Dryas Impact Theory, and the Younger Dryas Impact Theory group that's been studying this, they now know that there was impacts to the Earth that are around the 11,800-year mark, and then I believe again in the 10,000-year range.
01:23:03.000Randall Carlson is probably the best guy to talk to about that, but that they find high levels of iridium, which is very common in space and very rare on Earth, but there's a layer of it.
01:23:15.000They also find these nano-diamonds that they also discovered during the first Trinity explosion when they detonated the atomic bomb.
01:23:23.000They find these microscopic glass particles that are created by the intense explosion interacting with the sand.
01:24:15.000But which makes sense if there is a great flood that fills the pyramid with salt water, that it probably washed all that sand into that gigantic vertical shaft.
01:24:27.000And I tell you, Joe, if we do the chemical exploration of death debris, we can find also a certain density of salt because where mixed in the past by salty water and debris and soils.
01:24:46.000Also, you could get dirt from the very bottom and get some sort of organic material and carbon date that.
01:24:53.000And maybe you can get an understanding of maybe when stuff was washed down to the bottom of that shaft.
01:25:53.000Well, that is also the problem with the labyrinth.
01:25:56.000So the labyrinth that they have where there's this enormous atrium and this 40-meter-long metallic object that apparently is underneath there, and this is through ground-penetrating radar they discover this.
01:26:07.000I don't think they know what that metal is either.
01:26:41.000Herodotus described it as greater than the Giza Plateau itself.
01:26:45.000So these labyrinths, these corridors, these atriums, these huge passageways underneath the Great Pyramid area, more complex and more spectacular than the pyramids themselves.
01:27:03.000These people living in Africa, however long ago, were so much more advanced than perhaps anybody that's ever existed, including us, just in a different way.
01:27:16.000Just to remark the fact, Joe, that there is a difference between the water table, which of course is composed by drinkable water and the water that they found compounding the Osiris shaft, and the water that transported all the debris, but that water was salty water because of the Great Flood.
01:27:42.000So it was water of the sea, composing the sea.
01:27:47.000Which makes sense when you see the salt that's all over the pyramids.
01:27:51.000I've seen it myself, and indeed words cannot describe it.
01:27:54.000Though the pyramids beggar description, and each one of them is a match for many great monuments built by Greeks, this maze surpasses even the pyramids.
01:29:28.000I mean, from 2018 to now, from you researching this, does this change your entire perspective of human history and just human beings in general?
01:30:04.000More impossible than, I mean, if you'd imagine with modern technology trying to recreate something like that, you're talking about an immense project that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, if not more.
01:30:46.000Yes, because the modern science started from a point, and then, as you are saying right, we followed a direction, which is the direction of light.
01:31:01.000Because most of our inventions are, yes, internal combustion engines and other stuff, but principally we use light because we can see it.
01:31:44.000They were obsessed in vibrations and sound.
01:31:48.000Because all the structures that I watched inside the pyramids, they are like something that generates sound or they maintain clean the sound.
01:32:21.000And just how, how and where did they get the understanding to construct something like this?
01:32:28.000And this is what screws up our idea of a linear timeline of human progression and civilization to go from caveman to modern 2026 human being.
01:32:41.000We like to think that it was just, oh, we figured this out, then we figured the wheel out, and then it was agriculture.
01:32:48.000But more likely, there were some peaks and valleys.
01:32:52.000We rose up to a very high level, probably during Egypt, and it was shattered down, and it took probably a long time before civilization rebuilt itself again.
01:33:39.000We have the government that's constantly trying to censor people and control speech and limit your ability to express yourself and complain about things so they can continue to dominate resources.
01:33:52.000But it's also a society because of this access to information where you can discuss and explore things in a way that has never happened before.
01:34:01.000And that is that's the most exciting thing about our time.
01:34:08.000I want to, if I can, to explain you something that is maybe related to philosophy or to other things.
01:34:21.000We have an example of how modern humans are a bit strange because we are not made, it is like that we are not made to research or to find the harmonics in our living.
01:34:46.000And so I just want to make an example.
01:34:52.000Do you remember in the 80s when the cold fusion rises?
01:34:57.000So maybe we are speaking about Fleshman and Pons that made for the first time they had a glass of water and inside they made a mini nuclear reactor inside.
01:35:12.000They had some results that were very, very poor results, I know, but was a base to build something stronger.
01:35:21.000They put away that experiment, so no, they debunked that experiment.
01:35:27.000It was not good, it is not good because it is not possible.
01:35:32.000And the example of the cold fusion is how we are, because cold fusion was devoted to find the energy using resonance.
01:35:51.000have two atoms of hydrogen, we start putting together these two atoms, but while we put together these two atoms, there are the atomic forces that tends to, no, I don't want to stay with the other atom.
01:36:14.000But then there is a limit that the atoms fuse together and it transforms, they are transformed in helium plus energy because the mass difference.
01:37:16.000They don't want to talk one to each other.
01:37:20.000If you put a third person between them, at the center of them, and she and maybe a third person convince the man and the girl to speak together and they will speak together.
01:37:36.000So the third material, which is palladium, they use that palladium.
01:37:40.000Palladium has the physical property to make speak together the two atoms and without force them, they naturally transform into helium and they generate energy because the helium has a mass lower than the two atoms.
01:38:01.000With mass difference, you will generate energy.
01:38:06.000And doing this at scale is really the holy grail of modern science.
01:38:54.000Because it is very difficult to make a huge reactor that uses the tokamaks or something related to laser that uses, that forces together the atoms to is something not natural.
01:43:53.000Yes, because they found two targets parallel.
01:43:57.000But I am feeling to tell them to be careful, because maybe they are confusing the roof of the Grand Gallery and the lower part of the Grand Gallery.
01:45:41.000Some of them a hundred tons carved from stones that who knows how they put them into position, but they carved them in this very strange way to absorb the impact of earthquakes, right?
01:45:54.000The idea of this technology is that the reason why they're like a puzzle piece is because it would be much less likely to move in an intense earthquake.
01:46:07.000E Gubbio, just a few words on this city that is a small town that is located in Perugia, where I live.
01:46:18.000Look, the Italian, the authority of the city, of the town, asked me to perform a scanning around that Colosseum, that mini Colosseum that is located in Gubbio, because probably there is a huge Roman city, not so old, but it is a Roman city, that compounds that arena that is there.
01:46:46.000So a lost Roman city that's around that area.
01:50:09.000And how did they get the dimensions of it?
01:50:10.000Are people able to go all the way down into it?
01:50:13.000That man, because there is only a man that went down because it's very narrow, but once you go down, everything becomes very huge and large.
01:50:25.000Measure it manually, all those depths.
01:50:28.000But more than then, you can't go because maybe it's too narrow.
01:51:12.000It says it's currently known from fringe social media and YouTube style sources rather than former archaeological publications because it hasn't been explored, correct?
01:51:24.000But I mean, who's doing that kind of work in Russia, especially now?
01:51:27.000Deep underground shaft lined with large parallel megalithic stone blocks with walls described as straight and polished suggest artificial construction rather than a natural cave or fissure.
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01:51:47.000Said to lie somewhere between in the Russian caucus, often simply described simply as North Caucasus or Caucas Mountains, with videos and posts presenting it as evidence of unknown or very ancient civilization with advanced stone working techniques.
01:52:03.000Crazy that they don't know who made this.
01:52:06.000There's no accessible peer-reviewed archaeological articles, official Russian heritage records, or academic monographs to describe a site formerly named the Karahora shaft.
01:52:44.000And maybe doing a wide research by satellites, maybe starting from there or other sites between that Karahora, maybe we will find other things.
01:53:09.000Because it really does, like, anybody that, boy, modern archaeologists and people that are the gatekeepers of archaeological information are fighting an uphill battle.
01:53:17.000Because like you can't, at a certain point in time, you have to give up and go, I don't know.
01:53:33.000trying to it's I'm digging down a hole in it there's a post here on yes there are not so many like they're misinterpreting something This is Jay Anderson, who's been on the podcast recently.
01:54:06.000It all comes from this one video, it seems like, because everyone's pointing to this video, and this video is compiled of all sorts of stuff.
01:54:13.000It's got 3 million views from 2024, so I can see how it went viral, you know?
01:54:19.000But it starts off with just showing that, and I don't, you know.
01:54:23.000So this is probably the entry to this area.
01:58:31.000We use this shaft, the OSIRIS shaft, like a benchmark because we are able to understand the effectiveness of our technique that is able to retrive the shape of the OSIRIS shaft.
02:00:30.000This is a dam, and it is a very important dam.
02:00:35.000It is the Mosul dam that is located in Iraq.
02:00:42.000It's very huge, it's 300 meters tall, has a height of 300 meters and 3 kilometers from one part to the other part of the dam.
02:00:53.000So it contains a huge amount of water from the upper side, there is the water, that contains, and below there there is the river that the water comes out of from the reservoir that is on top.
02:01:25.000And the Jeepsum is While it is in contact with water, it melts.
02:01:33.000So the muscle dam is dangerous because it has a serious problem of stabilization.
02:01:41.000In this case, there are a lot of satellites methods and synthetic virtual rather methods that are devoted to perform the so-called infrastructure monitoring.
02:01:55.000And in this case, the muscle dam is crucial to be observed by radar.
02:02:01.000In this case, I wanted to see this slide 37, please.
02:02:08.000Here, inside the dam, look, there is a tunnel, the red line, the tunnel.
02:02:17.000And here we have people that are working inside the tunnel.
02:02:26.000And the task was, my technique is with my technique, it's possible to detect the tunnel.
02:02:33.000We go in slide 38, okay, and we see on the right top there is the tunnel.
02:02:42.000Just to explain you, where you see red, the vibration energy is high, so is red.
02:02:48.000When you see blue, the vibration energy is low, it's low.
02:02:54.000And inside the tunnel, because you have the air, you don't have vibration, so it's low.
02:03:05.000And so we were also able to detect slide 39, also the principal facility that are located inside the dam, which are the turbines, the turbines, the turbines, and other stuff, and all the mechanical machines.
02:03:27.000This is all the mechanical machines that are located inside.
02:03:31.000Alright, so it's showing the accurate shape of the turbines as well.
02:03:34.000So this is just more proof that this technique works.
02:05:02.000And that triangle is called the interferometer.
02:05:07.000So when you have two lasers that go together and you can study the pattern, the interference pattern that coherent signals are generating, you can use an interferometer.