In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the comedian and podcaster joins me to talk about a variety of topics. We talk about how technology has changed the way we see the world, and why Millennials are the greatest generation ever.
00:04:42.000He did this one we called a rental car place, and he said that the car was on fire because they went to the gas station and they filled up pots and pans with gas and they put it in the back seat.
00:07:02.000And it was just like, and it was like, I'm sitting there, you know, lost in like what I thought was stand-up was like some imitation of Dane, you know?
00:07:09.000And I'm watching Louie going like, this is something totally different.
00:09:00.000That is like, you know, not to get too meta about it, but comedy has become so, and I'm a part of this of so self-promotional and put it on.
00:11:22.000I sent a DM to someone about it, I think.
00:11:24.000So I got to tell you, before we find that, so Eddie Bravo calls me the other day and he goes, did Bert Kreischer lose everything and then get it back?
00:11:53.000I couldn't wait to talk to you about it because I could totally picture someone saying to you some story that totally never happened and you not wanting to be confrontational.
00:13:26.000But then, no, but I'm saying, like, maybe I was in my head, I was like, maybe he's thinking that, like, you know, I had a lot of development deals early and then I didn't for a few years and I worked the road and maybe that's what he was saying.
00:14:47.000It's, it's, you know, it's when I got out, I was like, it's, I don't, I don't mean this with disrespect, but it's less Shannon, I think more as producers, because he's got cards.
00:14:57.000So I think the producers are like, what, what clip's going to pop?
00:15:32.000And in my head, I was like, we're all working hard.
00:15:33.000Like, but a lot of people, you know, were just, you know, waiting for a moment to get in front of people.
00:15:40.000And then I was like, and then I had an agent very casually, like not mine, but at a thing goes, you know, Kevin should mention how lucky he got.
00:15:51.000He's like, well, that's the beef between Kevin and Kat is Kat packed a gun in his luggage to go shoot Fool's Gold and he got detained and they were in production and they're like, we need someone small and black to fit these clothes.
00:16:08.000And that was the story I wanted Kevin to tell because that, as a comic, you can kind of put your head around that.
00:16:15.000And I've, and I've, and by the way, I did not do a good job of explaining it on Shannon's show because it's like, you know, I'm a fucking talk out of my ass.
00:16:23.000But like every comic has had these like moments that skyrocket them, right?
00:17:11.000And Tom's like, if Comedy Central had bought my hour, I would have been fucked.
00:17:15.000But instead, I sold it to this small streamer, Netflix.
00:17:18.000And the only other one they had was Bill Burr.
00:17:20.000And so as comics, I think sometimes, and you know how much I believe in luck, it's so it's easier to hear about someone's luck where you go, oh, that is crazy, that happenstance.
00:17:31.000I mean, we've said it about you, and I know you probably disagree maybe to a certain extent, but I think the greatest thing that ever happened to you was that getting kicked out of the comedy store, that period of time where you had to re-evaluate your evaluate yourself and you created this, what you have.
00:17:49.000And you re, I mean, you would speak to it better than I could, but I think as comics, we look at you reinventing yourself and reimagining yourself and making it your own fucking entity and creating this podcast, which has changed all of our lives.
00:18:04.000That moment, and it must have been tough to lose your agent, get kicked out of the comedy store, and have to figure things out that we all got behind.
00:18:15.000I mean, I'm curious what your feelings about that are.
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00:19:45.000Like when he would go on stage or he would be in the back of the room, if you were on stage, they would flash the light to let you know that he was in the room.
00:19:53.000You know how crazy that is that there's a guy around that steals so much that they have to flash a light whenever a comic's on stage.
00:20:01.000And then comics would just start doing crowd work.
00:20:45.000But it was, you know, it was the first time that someone was held accountable because, you know, we don't have to name names, but we all know people who snuck through and still kind of have careers, although greatly diminished impact.
00:20:59.000Because like when they go on stage now, people are excited to see them because they're famous.
00:21:04.000And then that immediately goes away when you realize there's nothing there.
00:21:07.000They have no material because they have to write for themselves now.
00:29:11.000But it's not, you don't have to read it.
00:29:13.000Well, I'm at the place now, like I took Google News, I took all Google and everything off my phone because the series premiered and I didn't want to get good or bad.
00:29:22.000I was like, because you can't quantify the good.
00:29:26.000Like, if you're going to listen to the good, you've got to listen to the bad.
00:29:31.000And I was like, well, I don't want to hear the bad, so I just want to hear the good.
00:29:34.000And then Jamie and I were talking about this outside, but like you have a social media team who's posting like, like, like, like your claps, like they're posting like the nice articles.
00:30:23.000So what is the impetus for you to post something?
00:30:28.000At what point do you decide to share your life?
00:30:31.000Well, I just feel like if there's something I think someone will think is interesting or something that I would like to see, if someone puts it on their feed, I'll put it in there every now.
00:31:01.000I don't like paying attention to me, you know, and reading me.
00:31:05.000And I don't want to go online and see too many car crashes and people getting shot and animal attacks.
00:31:11.000Tommy and I have the worst fucking text message chain.
00:31:15.000Him and I, all day, whenever he finds something like unbelievably horrific, some guy getting run over by a truck, he'll just send it to me.
00:34:03.000Because after people were drafted, by the way, the worst fucking people were going after her.
00:34:09.000People that I know that are comedians that are just unbelievably shitty, dishonest, disingenuous human beings, bad faith communicators, people that just like completely distort anything about the person.
00:34:23.000And it's just because she's successful.
00:36:06.000Like, if you were a person and you were someone's friend and you started shitting on Miss Rachel and someone said, actually, that's like for kids with learning disorders.
00:37:39.000Scientists say that science fiction may be coming closer to reality.
00:37:42.000According to reports, California startup claims it successfully enabled two-way communication between people while they were lucid dreaming.
00:37:50.000Participants were asleep in separate locations while researchers monitored their sleep and transmitted a coded word designed to be perceived inside a dream without waking them.
00:38:00.000The system reportedly relied on sensors, wireless communication, and specialized software to detect dream states and relay the message.
00:38:08.000The company's founder says that what once sounded like science fiction could soon become a daily life, a part of daily life.
00:38:15.000No independent scientists, but they're not saying what happened.
00:38:18.000No independent scientific replication has confirmed the results yet.
00:38:21.000Still, the experiment builds on real research showing that interaction between lucid dreams is possible.
00:40:07.000I mean, i've done it a couple of times, but I haven't on purpose, and i've always wondered why not like, why haven't I read books on lucid dreams?
00:40:27.000When I remember, when you came out with Alpha Brain, you're one of the first things you said it would help with lucid dreaming.
00:40:32.000Oh, if you take it before bed, it definitely helps with lucid dreaming.
00:40:35.000Yeah, and I remember saying I didn't know what lucid dreaming was at the time, and then I found out I was lucid dreaming and i've i've lucid dreamed, i've my my whole life.
00:40:45.000But now that, once I knew what it was, I could stay in a dream and decide, and I could go back into dreams, I could restart a dream that I just had, go back to sleep and go back really, yeah.
00:40:54.000Yeah, it sounds crazy and I know it sounds like horseshit, but I never knew what it was.
00:40:58.000I never knew what it was until alpha brain.
00:41:00.000There's actual techniques that people practice and apparently they give classes and courses on how to do lucid books written on it.
00:41:08.000There's real techniques on how to lucid dream.
00:41:11.000I just never I don't know why like I, when i'm tired, I just want to go to sleep.
00:41:16.000I go hard all day yeah, and when I crash, I just crash.
00:41:20.000I don't want to be fucking around experimenting while i'm sleeping, I just want to go to sleep.
00:41:24.000My lucid dreams primarily are either like i'm I I realize i'm dreaming, I go, i'm asleep, i'm dreaming, this isn't real oh, i'm in control.
00:41:33.000And then, and then a lot of times it has to do with fucking.
00:41:36.000Like i'm like oh, I don't have to put a condom on.
00:41:48.000I was outside, I had to go up these steps into like an old cottage, like one of those old Hollywood cottages, and I was like I gotta fuck, I gotta have sex with anyone I want.
00:41:56.000And in my dream I was like oh, pick your wife, how cool is that?
00:42:28.000And so I just leapt up in the air, started flying over Hollywood and then over the hills, and then I was like wait, I have no idea, I have no frame of reference for where I am.
00:42:35.000I was like it's getting dark and I was like where's the 101?
00:42:38.000And then in the dream I was just started kept flying and then i'll wake up shortly thereafter but it's a lot of like a lot, lot of sex and a lot of flying.
00:42:49.000A lot of people breathe underwater in their dreams.
00:42:57.000I used to have like crazy fucking dreams, like wild.
00:43:00.000I sold a TV show to Comedy Central about my dreams.
00:43:03.000Like I've had dreams where I wake up laughing.
00:43:05.000I've had dreams where I wake up crying, like I've.
00:43:07.000I have such insane fucking dreams but and I no one ever wants to, I no one ever wants to hear you I would have dream joke dreams like real joke dreams.
00:43:17.000Like I had a dream this is a real dream I had where I was on stage and I was in a dance position like this and I know this sounds horse shit is a real dream and and the curtains drawn and I look around and I see I'm standing on stage with four or five dudes that are all in clan outfits and I'm like, oh fuck.
00:43:38.000And I look down and I realize I'm in a clan outfit and I'm like motherfucker, and I'm like I gotta get off stage and the curtains draw back and I hear and it's an all black people and I hear the voice, the voice Of God.
00:43:50.000Go, ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for the click clack clan.
00:43:55.000And we started tap dancing and we were so good that the black people got to their feet and they started cheering and we're like, oh my god.
00:44:01.000And so yeah, that was and that was a real dream.
00:44:34.000My dreams are weird man, like let's dig into this.
00:44:37.000I had a dream that I came on the podcast I had to talk about because it was the absolute strangest, most realistic dream of my life, and it was a dream where I encountered these beings that were not human, and it was insanely realistic.
00:44:54.000They were very human, like I think there was four of them.
00:44:58.000They were tall and thin and they look kind of.
00:45:08.000I don't remember, but I remember they were joking with me, like they scared me, and they were like ah, like trying to get me comfortable with who they are, and they were communicating with me somehow or another through thoughts, and I was really freaked out because they seemed very, very real.
00:45:29.000They didn't seem like any other dream that I had, so much so that I woke up at like 3, 30 in the morning and I just lay in bed for an hour trying to go back to sleep, and I couldn't go back to sleep.
00:45:40.000I was almost like I'm not sleep, I'm wide awake, yeah.
00:45:42.000And so I went to the gym and I just worked out at four in the morning and it worked out for like two hours and after it was over.
00:45:50.000I got in the sauna, did the whole thing, and then I came to work.
00:45:53.000I was like I have to talk about this right away because it was so strange.
00:45:57.000It was one of the only dreams that I've ever had that did not feel at all like a dream.
00:46:02.000It felt like I was encountering someone or something that was trying to get me comfortable with the idea of encountering them.
00:46:14.000It was, I was in the corridor of something that seemed like it was, it was not like it was from here.
00:46:25.000It was like from somewhere else, but it was almost like it was very oddly lit.
00:46:30.000Like the walls were lit in a very strange way, but it was almost like it was, it was this corridor, but it had a feeling almost like it was organic, like it was alive, like it was a living thing.
00:46:42.000What if, what if that was, but what if that is something that you did, in fact, experience that was taken out of your memory, and then it's stuck in your memory and you're dreaming about it?
00:46:53.000I mean, you could maybe all day long, right?
00:48:22.000They had a barrier and they were feeding like with, they were like pouring food to these things that almost like was letting me know the protection between you and this horrific danger that's out there in the world, in the universe, in life, is very, it's very thin.
00:48:45.000It was just like a barrier, like a simple barrier, like a, you know, like a fucking blockade they put to keep a crowd from passing through an area to let you know you're not supposed to go here.
00:49:02.000But isn't it so wild that something that didn't happen can be locked in your memory and then you just you're like, God, it affects you almost like it did.
00:49:11.000Well, now it's like a memory of my recollection of the memory, which is odd, which is memories in general, which is why people distort memories and change them and make, you know, make the past something that's not real.
00:49:23.000You know, you've talked to people that, yeah.
00:51:16.000And when I've talked to like my UFO friends, like Jesse Michaels, who's like really into UFOs, he's like, I think you had a real encounter.
00:53:18.000So he gained significant influence with Tsar Nicholas II after 1905, rapidly earning the trust of both Nicholas himself and his wife, Alexandra.
00:53:26.000He became a healer, in quotes, for their hemophiliac son, Alexi.
00:53:31.000What was happening was Alexi was getting given aspirin by the doctors.
00:53:35.000And Rasputin came in and was like, yo, get the doctors away from him.
01:01:28.000But there's, I know there's videos of him like literally like flying off stage, landing on his back, slipping, legs up in the air, landing on the ladder.
01:03:41.000Nixon was not involved in the setup, but they told him about what happened, and then he was involved in the cover-up.
01:03:49.000That's how they got him, and that's how he got removed from office.
01:03:51.000And the recordings were from his office, right?
01:03:53.000The recordings were from the Democratic Party.
01:03:56.000So he was recording the Democratic Party.
01:03:58.000He was recording, he was secretly recording the opposition party, but he didn't do it.
01:04:04.000So the FBI did it, and then they brought it to him knowing that he would cover it up, and that's where he committed the crime.
01:04:11.000Like instead of coming out and saying, hey, some people have recorded these people.
01:04:16.000Even if he did that, they would have said he was involved.
01:04:19.000But the whole thing was to get him out of office.
01:04:22.000The reason why they wanted to get him out of office is because he was publicly and privately stating, at least amongst other people that were in the White House, that he knew who killed JFK and he was going to get to the bottom of it.
01:04:33.000Because look, JFK had just been killed.
01:04:49.000And when he's the president, he was publicly stating or privately stating to different people, like he was going to get to the bottom of it, and he knew who killed JFK.
01:06:52.000I read Wired when I was in college and was like, dude, this is, I mean, there's so many aspects of my personality that I draw from a book like that of like the way he was comfortable in an agent's office and B12 shots I get because of John Belushi.
01:07:07.000Well, I'm sure he did all those things, and I'm sure he partied, but like the version, this exaggerated version of just being completely out of control on drugs was fake.
01:07:19.000And this is according to Bill Murray, who was best friends with him.
01:08:54.000And that's like the one thing that you're not allowed to be.
01:08:56.000Even if you think the power is good, like maybe they all support the agenda of the U.S. government, destabilizing the world and impoverishing their own population.
01:09:28.000Well, I think it's been the case for a long time.
01:09:30.000I mean, if you look at what happened to Richard Nixon, which I, of course, did not understand at all, Richard Nixon was taken out by the FBI and CIA, and With the help of Bob Woodward, who was a Washington Post reporter, who had been a naval intelligence officer working in the White House, working in the Nixon White House.
01:09:52.000And then he shows up like a year later, and he's this brand new reporter.
01:10:51.000This intrepid reporter, Bob Woodward, was a tool of power, secret power, which is the most threatening kind, to bounce the single most popular president in American history, Richard Nixon, from office before the end of his term and replace him with who?
01:11:08.000Oh, Gerald Ford, who sat on the Warren Commission.
01:11:11.000Now, how did Gerald Ford get to be Richard Nixon's vice president?
01:11:15.000Well, because Carl Albert, the Democrat Speaker of the House, told him you must choose him.
01:11:20.000We will only confirm him when they sent the actual elected vice president away for tax evasion, Spiro Agnew of Maryland.
01:11:46.000Yeah, he was on the Warren Commission.
01:11:49.000And so, sorry for the long story, but the point is, like, that happened in front of all of us, but the way it was framed cloaked the obvious reality of it.
01:11:58.000The people who broke into the Watergate office building from which the name is taken, Watergate, I think it was six of them or seven of them.
01:12:12.000So the whole thing, Richard Nixon was elected by more votes than any president in American history in the 1972 election.
01:12:22.000He was the most popular, by votes, which is the only way we can really measure popularity, the most popular president in his reelection campaign.
01:12:45.000So why did they want to get rid of Nixon?
01:12:50.000You know, there are a lot of theories on that.
01:12:51.000I mean, we don't, first of all, we don't need to know motive to know what happened.
01:12:56.000They, meaning unelected federal employees, got rid of Richard Nixon, which is the most anti-democratic way to make a leadership change that there is.
01:14:09.000And he said to the SAA director, who, and you can listen to the tape, it's on the internet, is totally silent on this question.
01:14:17.000So I think there was the impression, I don't think I know, that Nixon understood that the bureaucracy was really in control of the country.
01:15:38.000They decided he was too ugly to be sympathetic towards.
01:15:42.000So then, man, this kind of bums me out.
01:15:48.000I mean, I always kind of had hopes up that if I turned on the news, I'd hear some objective rant or some objectiveness of anything, but there's none.
01:16:41.000Deep Throat was W. Mark Felt, the number two official at the FBI during Watergate, who secretly provided key information to Washington Post reporter Bob Woodburn.
01:16:50.000So the FBI was involved in the break-in.
01:16:53.000The number two official at the FBI was the guy who was providing information under the name Deep Throat.
01:17:36.000Independent media that's not connected to any corporation.
01:17:39.000Because as soon as you're connected to a corporation, you're connected to advertisers.
01:17:42.000As soon as you're connected to advertisers, a giant percentage of advertisers on television is pharmaceutical drug companies, major corporations.
01:17:52.000So you have things that you're not allowed to touch.
01:17:54.000That's why you never hear anything in all the news about vaccine injuries.
01:17:59.000Never hear about all these people that are having strokes, all these people that are the rise in heart attacks, the rise in myocarditis, particularly amongst young people, blood clots.
01:19:32.000He had COVID when we were all doing those concerts, when me and Chappelle and him and a bunch of other guys were doing those pandemic concerts.
01:20:28.000So like I watched the, I've been watching a lot of UFC lately, and I want your perspective because I'm thinking of this globally.
01:20:36.000Like Jordan, they compare Jordan and LeBron James, right?
01:20:40.000And they compare Tom Brady to Joe Montana.
01:20:43.000And the big argument they always say is, well, you know, Tom Brady couldn't play in the league Joe Montana played in because the rules were different.
01:20:50.000They got fucked up left and right, right?
01:20:53.000And like they were concussions and there was no roughing the passer.
01:20:56.000You could hit the quarterback late, all that shit.
01:23:10.000If he was competing today, if he was a young man competing today, he would still give hell to a lot of people in an appropriate weight class if it went to the ground because his jiu-jitsu is so good.
01:23:22.000His striking was always a means to an end.
01:23:24.000His striking, he would go at a distance, he would kick at your legs, but his whole thing was about closing the distance, getting you to the ground, strangling you, getting on you an arm bar, tapping you out a triangle, jujitsu.
01:24:31.000That guy, when it was over, the happiness that he had, the smile on his face, he was so, he was just in a high, like nothing else in life.
01:24:40.000It's hard for those guys to put that away.
01:24:42.000It's hard for those guys to let that go.
01:24:45.000And their identity is completely wrapped around the fact that they're an elite fighter.
01:24:50.000How did you not have your identity about your career?
01:24:54.000Because I know you pretty well, and you never really, like, it's tough to disconnect your identity to your career or your dreams or your hopes, which I think fighters, it's easy to understand.
01:28:28.000Where everybody thinks you're one thing, but you're actually another thing.
01:28:31.000So the people around you don't like you.
01:28:33.000And then when the water breaks and everybody starts talking, all the staff start talking shit about you and you realize like, oh, she was a monster.
01:28:39.000You know, so I think I had the benefit of having some fame to realize, like, oh, this is not.
01:28:55.000You did listen a little because I remember the one time I called you when you were on a motorcycle in Vietnam and I was like, bro, you got to quit that job.
01:29:14.000You know, it's like I always say, like, thank God I had the right people in my life at the right times.
01:29:18.000Because there's so much about, like, I'll tell you, like, you know, with the blood clot thing, they said, you know, I never, every time I got sober, it was always to like just prove I could get sober for a month, you know?
01:30:01.000And then I, and then I had a really interesting conversation with my trainer and with Leanne over this conversation.
01:30:06.000And they were like, you know, what's so funny is they don't see my lifestyle is partying and everything is disrespectful to my health because I work out, because I get blood work, because I'm sober for everyone.
01:30:17.000They were saying, it's disrespectful to people that don't, that just stay online and scroll and don't live their life.
01:30:26.000Like, if you're just like, you come home and you lock into video games and you don't go out and you don't really connect with people and then you wake up and you scroll for three hours and then you light a cigarette and you go to work and you come home and you play video games, you're not living your life.
01:30:41.000And they're like, Leanne was saying the other day, she's like, you know, don't look like get excited to start drinking again, but make sure that you can measure that, you know?
01:32:24.000So a D-dimer test is when they test your body for clots, for microclots.
01:32:28.000So apparently a lot of people that have got a ton of boosters got, they have microclots.
01:32:34.000And this is one of the things, there was a Canadian doctor that was one of the first guys to get canceled for saying that the vaccine was causing clots because he was one of the first guys that was doing a D-dimer test on all of his patients.
01:32:48.000And he found out that this vaccinated patients, the vast majority of them, were having these microclots all throughout their system.
01:32:56.000And it was being caused, in his opinion, by the vaccine.
01:33:00.000And boy, eventually his business wound up getting burned to the ground.
01:34:29.000And a lot of it is because they vaccinated during a pandemic.
01:34:33.000And one of the things that virologists throughout history were always saying is you never vaccinate during a pandemic because when you vaccinate during a pandemic, you actually encourage variants.
01:34:46.000Because the vaccine realizes, especially when you have a leaky vaccine, like COVID.
01:34:51.000So what a leaky vaccine is, a vaccine that doesn't stop transmission and doesn't stop infection.
01:34:55.000What it does is it gives you some protection through antibodies.
01:35:00.000But that allows you to get the cold and then the cold realizes, oh, this guy's got these antibodies.
01:35:07.000And then people who had antibodies to the original wild virus, once they got vaccinated, this variant would see that they were, or it wouldn't see, but it would have a different pathway because their original immunity was to the wild virus.
01:35:29.000The original antibodies were to the first virus that doesn't even exist anymore.
01:35:33.000So your body didn't recognize these new variants.
01:36:37.000It's so bad for your immune system to drink when you're sick because you just give your immune system this new thing to fight while it's already involved in a fight.
01:38:40.000And I took IV NAD, IV vitamins, and then the big one was monoclonal antibodies.
01:38:46.000And monoclonal antibodies, they made it really hard for people to get after that because people were just saying, oh, I just need to get monoclonal antibodies and I'm better.
01:38:56.000We were using a telemedicine nurse, and it was a part of a nationwide service that you could send people, a nurse, and they would go deliver monoclonal antibodies and IV vitamins.
01:39:11.000And the IV vitamins thing, it always existed, but the monoclonal antibodies, they added to it once COVID came.
01:39:18.000And I can't tell you how many people that I sent nurses to, people that I didn't even know, people that were friends of friends, my mom's friend, and I'd say, give me the address, tell me who they are, and I'll send it to them.
01:41:45.000I only got it because I stayed up late one night drinking and playing pool till like five o'clock in the morning with my friend John Schulman.
01:41:52.000I remember you telling me that you're like, it's more, you said you were more run down.
01:43:52.000They didn't like the idea that this healthy person was saying you could get over this.
01:43:57.000And also a healthy person that's in their 50s was saying you can get over this and you don't need this radical experimental medicine that they're trying to push on people.
01:44:08.000And so that's just another example of the mainstream media that's not there for the news.
01:44:13.000Because if they really were there to inform people, they would say, well, what did he do?
01:46:27.000I have a big tongue and I have a big neck.
01:46:29.000The problem is when you have big neck muscles, like football players, a lot of them, most of them have sleep apnea because all those muscles constrict the walls of your throat.
01:46:42.000So like there's all this tissue that didn't exist before.
01:47:18.000Nose breathing keeps the tongue positioned correctly against the palate and jaw forward, maintaining an open airway that minimize snoring and sleep apnea episodes.
01:47:26.000Mouth breathing allows the tongue to fall back, obstructing airflow, which definitely happens to me.
01:47:38.000It boosts nitric oxide production for better oxygen uptake and blood flow, supporting deeper sleep cycles and parasympathetic nervous system activation for relaxation.
01:47:48.000This leads to fewer awakenings and higher sleep quality.
01:47:51.000Look, for me, I know for a fact it helps for a fact.
01:47:56.000For my personal feeling, when I wake up in the morning and I tape my mouth shut, I feel way better.
01:48:48.000What they're giving you is a filtered narrative that has been promoted by major corporations that have a vested interest in profiting off of this narrative being pushed forward.
01:48:59.000Like, if you don't get the vaccine, you're going to die, right?
01:49:06.000Why they attacked me is because I showed that there's something different.
01:49:09.000Like, oh, look at this healthy guy who's in his 50s that's really obsessed with health, works out every day, and look how quick he got over COVID.
01:49:17.000Well, this isn't this thing that we're pretending it is.
01:52:34.000I've been number one for six years in a row.
01:52:36.000All of a sudden, you're going to have a contest in front of all these people wearing tuxedos, and you're going to say, Now I'm not number one.
01:56:22.000I was like, God, because we got moved nine times over the course of five years.
01:56:26.000Like, I remember, like, one of the things that just like social media poisons people, back then, it was Variety and the Hollywood Reporter.
01:56:35.000So all of the cast would be sitting around reading variety about how good Sex in the City was doing and the single guy.
01:56:42.000And, you know, because they would sandwich them in between Friends and Seinfeld.
01:56:46.000And, you know, Paul Sims, the producer of news radio, would call it a shit sandwich because you would have these two really good shows in between these shows that were not that good.
01:56:54.000They would call it Caroline and the shitty.
02:01:16.000I said, when I watch slow horse, and this is why Ron's compliment was so kind, because I created the show so that me, Jared, and Andy, I should be able to do it.
02:01:28.000They're a group of like low-grade spies that all kind of got put into an office off to the side, but they don't realize how important their office still is.
02:01:37.000They're still very ingrained in all the shit that the big office is doing, but they're the B team.
02:01:42.000And so the big office is constantly fucking with the little office.
02:01:48.000The day I watched Slow Horse, I watched Slow Horses the week before I went in for this meeting, and I watched the first episode of Slow Horses.
02:01:55.000And at the very end of that first episode, I hit pause.
02:02:14.000I go, the first episode, at that last line, I say, the very last line of that first episode, I want you to look at the person you're with and go, I'm watching all fucking six.
02:02:48.000When we did the premiere in LA, Netflix came up to me and shout out to Netflix.
02:02:53.000And they were like, you know, when you pitched this, we had no idea what you were fucking selling us.
02:02:57.000Like when you said black doves and slow horses, like that, those were your comps.
02:03:02.000And then they were like, we watched that first episode and they're like, you fucking did it.
02:03:05.000Like you made a show where at that very end of that first episode, at that moment, and the very beginning of the second episode, I have a joke about you.
02:03:32.000And that's like, it's like, because, you know, you try to do something a little different.
02:03:37.000And that's why when you said that, you didn't submit, I fucking connected so hard because I was like, I don't need it to be, it's not going to be the number one show on Netflix.
02:03:48.000It's never going to be the greatest show they ever made.
02:05:57.000You know, and or someone posting on social media, like, oh, this fucking, someone that I respect on social media posting it and saying, hey, you need to watch this.
02:07:13.000But it's one of those things that it's like when you find something that you just fall in love with, like, like that you can't explain to someone.
02:07:24.000It's a documentary by Werner Herzog about it was trying to him and another guy, another guy did it.
02:07:29.000He was trying to do a documentary called Nub City, right?
02:07:32.000It was about this place in Florida where a lot of people had lost limbs and were collecting insurance money.
02:07:37.000And he went in to do a documentary about that, and he got his life threatened, but he had all this footage.
02:07:44.000So I think Werner Herzog came in and dumped a little money in it, and he just made the bizarrest documentary about a guy talking about turkey hunting and another guy talking about like it's like four different personalities, Joe.
02:08:55.000They're always drinking and everyone's happy.
02:08:58.000And it's called Happy People, Life in the Taiga.
02:09:00.000A great documentary because it just shows you that, like without struggle, you will create struggle.
02:09:06.000And when you have struggle all the time, like physical struggle, people seem to be satisfied and happy, especially when they're living off the land, living like a subsistence lifestyle, they're out in the forest, they're catching fish and it's it's a great documentary.
02:09:22.000Because I remember we went to a birthday party at your house and your wife introduced my girls and Lean to chickens and lean and the girls immediately got chickens.
02:11:20.000I think in order for your body to survive, like when we were hunter-gatherers, you had to do a bunch of work.
02:11:28.000So I think there's human reward systems that are built in us that if you don't meet those requirements, your body gets anxious.
02:11:35.000And the most anxiety-ridden, fucked up, mentally ill people I know are these lazy slobs that are online all day complaining about people, especially comics.
02:11:47.000I know so many comics that they spend a giant chunk of their day shitting on other comics and they're all fat and lazy.
02:11:54.000Well, it's because they're not healthy.
02:11:56.000They're not mentally healthy, physically healthy.
02:11:59.000And so they're completely obsessed with other things, external things.
02:12:03.000You know, when we did that sober October challenge, Tommy said it best because he was like, dude, when you work out, when we're all competing against each other to see who got the highest fitness scores, Tommy said it best, like when you work out all day, it kills all that internal chatter.
02:12:19.000Like you don't worry about things anymore.
02:12:38.000There's all that stuff built in as a human reward system.
02:12:41.000If you don't meet that human reward system, you're just doom scrolling on TikTok and Twitter all day and shitting on people like, fuck Whitney Cummings and Miss Rachel.
02:12:53.000They're just mentally ill slobs, all of them.
02:12:57.000And their opinion should be dismissed.
02:12:59.000That's why the idea of awards is so ridiculous.
02:13:02.000Who are these people that are giving you awards?
02:13:04.000They're all unhealthy people for the most part.
02:13:07.000They're all weirdos that are caught up in this fucking bizarre, strange industry that rewards groupthink.
02:14:16.000I don't think we should do that again because the problem with that is that lit up that weird part of my brain, that obsessive part of my brain.
02:14:23.000And my wife asked me never to do that again.
02:14:35.000It's a dangerous part of my own brain that I can't entertain too much.
02:14:40.000Because I think that's the part of my brain that was formulated in my competition days where it was like my thought was, you know, like I would go to the, because I had keys to the school.
02:14:51.000So I'd go and train at 2 o'clock in the morning because I knew nobody else was.
02:16:00.000When you're talking about Michael Jordan, he was the most healthy person.
02:16:02.000Michael Jordan and Kelly Slater, the two ones, Tiger Woods, that I hear about, and I identify with the way their brain works where I go, oh, I have that grossness, where I create scenarios in my head to go, that's it.
02:16:14.000I'm going to fucking, I'd build up a rivalry with, I have a guy that I think about to this day who played baseball at Tampa Catholic.
02:16:20.000His name was Israel, and I had a competitive name.
02:16:23.000The guy didn't even know who the fuck I am.
02:16:54.000And so And when I got into stand-up, maybe because I just saw that so many people were so far beyond me that I was like, well, I'm not playing their game, I guess.
02:17:07.000So I'm not, I never had a competitiveness in stand-up.
02:17:12.000Listen, you could, there's a good place for competitiveness.
02:17:15.000I mean, I am competitive, no doubt, but I don't think about it in terms of like art.
02:17:21.000I think my competition with either stand-up or with podcasting is to be the best I can be, to do the best job I can.
02:17:30.000Like if I have a guy on and he's wants to talk about some science stuff or something like esoteric or I have to read his book or listen to the audio book.
02:20:09.000And this is like, it's fuck you to the inner bitch.
02:20:11.000Dude, it's like when you said, like, I remember doing an interview with a guy when he was getting like, I got a Netflix special coming out.
02:20:17.000I'm going to go out on the road for the next couple of weeks.
02:20:53.000But what's crazy to me is like we were, me and you, not, I can't speak for the younger comics, but we were in a time at stand-up when competitiveness was the norm.
02:21:08.000It was like everybody thought they were competing for a very small amount of slots.
02:21:12.000And then what happened was the internet came along and we realized that, no, in fact, we're actually an asset to each other because we do each other's podcasts.
02:21:21.000We hang out with each other, which makes each other better.
02:21:24.000When we're all on a show together and you're killing and Tom's killing and Ari's killing, the more people are killing, the more we're going to do better because we're going to get excited about it.
02:21:34.000And so we became valuable to each other instead of competitive against each other.
02:21:38.000And if there was any competition that you were having with your friends, it was actually healthy competition because it just made you try harder.
02:21:46.000Like if you saw, if Ari went up and did like when Ari did his Jew special, which was fucking incredible, that special was so good.
02:21:52.000It made so many people get inspired to work on a theme and write and like really try to develop something.
02:22:39.000So their competitiveness is a very unhealthy competitiveness.
02:22:42.000If their competitiveness was healthy, they would say, well, what is it about this person where she's getting all these comedy specials and she's in front of all these roasts?
02:22:51.000Why is Nikki Glazer doing so well and I'm not?
02:22:54.000Instead of hating on Nikki Glazer, you know, but that's not what like a narcissist does.
02:23:28.000You're on Twitter every day for 12 hours like a fucking mental patient just shitting on people and getting in arguments and saying mean things.
02:23:36.000Like you're going to just, it's crabs in a bucket.
02:23:38.000You're just trying to pull people down that are doing better than you.
02:24:45.000And it's like, if I hang out with the best fucking comics in the world, if I surround myself with the best comics in the world, I'm going to have to get better.
02:25:30.000Like, I think I always surrounded myself around better comics to like see what the meal was being made and go like, well, shit, I'm just making french fries.
02:25:40.000You can turn that into a baked potato.
02:27:31.000Like I remember we were doing a new material night one night and I got off stage and you walked up to me and you go, did you really not know that Helen Kellen and Anne Frank weren't the same person?
02:27:41.000And I was like, yeah, I used to think they're the same person.
02:27:43.000Did you, you know what I've been reading?
02:34:37.000The Helen Keller one's because there's doctors that have said, like, there's, it was medical records at the time where people said she was responding to light.
02:34:45.000This says that there's, uh, that's not true.
02:34:51.000Medical board archives from 1902 to 1924 do not contain examination reports showing Helen Keller had functional vision and hearing throughout a disabled life.
02:35:00.000And the conspiracy that Keller was a cash cow for Sullivan is debunked by the fact that Keller's full life continued with another companion, Polly Thompson, who also interpreted for her.
02:37:11.000I went to the airport, a little drunk.
02:37:13.000He was fighting with his wife, and he grabbed her by the back of the arm to leave, and I thought he was just grabbing her by the back of the arm like a dick.
02:37:20.000And I was like, hey, and then he turned around and he had sunglasses on and a cane.
02:37:24.000And I realized that's the only way he could get to the gate.
02:37:26.000Look at Burt being a fucking white knight.
02:37:31.000It is so easiest fight I've ever been in.
02:37:34.000The look on the black guy's face at TSA when I couldn't see that he was blind already and he grabbed his wife's arm and I went, hey, and the black guy went, oh shit.
02:37:43.000Like not knowing you're talking shit to a blind guy.
02:39:22.000Her teacher made millions from the lie.
02:39:25.000Said medical board archives from 1902 to 1924 allegedly contain examination reports suggesting Helen Keller retained partial vision and hearing throughout her life.
02:39:36.000According to those claims, multiple physicians noted she reacted to sounds when Ann Sullivan was not present, tracked movement with her eyes, and physically flinched at loud noises.
02:39:45.000One sealed report is said to conclude, I don't like that, is said to conclude that her responses pointed to coordinated deception rather than true disability.
02:40:01.000The theory argues that the situation became highly profitable.
02:40:04.000Sullivan allegedly discovered Keller at age seven, promoted a miraculous teaching breakthrough, and toured the country, charging the modern equivalent of thousands per appearance.
02:40:14.000Supporters of the claim say Keller's autobiography noticeably changed tone when Sullivan became ill, suggesting Sullivan authored both voices.
02:40:22.000Financial records are said to show Sullivan controlled all income, keeping Keller financially dependent for life.
02:40:29.000Linguistic analytics cited by conspiracy supporters claim Keller's writings mirrored Sullivan's private letters exactly matching vocabulary, sentence structure, and even spelling mistakes.
02:40:41.000They argue that Keller wrote without Sullivan present, that when Keller wrote Without Sullivan Present, the work appeared elementary, concluding that her eloquent public words came from Sullivan, not Keller.
02:40:53.000According to the theory, disability organizations later built massive institutions around Keller's story.
02:40:58.000When evidence questioning her condition surfaced, it was allegedly suppressed due to rather protect a lucrative charity, an inspiration-based industry that relied on a powerful symbolic figure.
02:41:25.000And the thing about the Lance Armstrong thing is, you know, you could say Lance Armstrong cheated and he'll tell you he cheated, but the reality is everyone cheated.
02:41:34.000If you wanted to go back into the archives when he won Tour de France and figure out like who didn't test positive, you had to go to 18th place.
02:41:52.000You could say I didn't win, but everybody knows I won.
02:41:55.000And everybody knows he won when all those other guys were doping too.
02:41:58.000But I was saying they were trying to protect a lucrative profit.
02:42:02.000And that's what didn't happen with Lance.
02:42:04.000Like, they just threw him under the bus.
02:42:06.000Well, he was also suing people who were saying that he took stuff because they were whistleblowers because they went after them first and said, listen, if you blow the whistle on Lance, we'll get you off the hook.
02:43:35.000And we did some music, a song using Stevie Wonder's music, and he had to clear it.
02:43:39.000And he called me up, like, for some reason, Stevie Wonder called you, like, super early in the morning, like six, seven in the morning or some shit.
02:43:46.000I'm like, just because you can't see the time.